1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:19,400 I'll call the public hearing to order first on the 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:26,640 agenda will be the Street Maintenance fund if anybody in the 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:31,240 public has any comments Pro or con for the Street 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Maintenance feel free to come on up to the P of 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,960 table and 6 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:46,760 speak and we'll wait probably like 10 minutes and after 7 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:54,079 that we'll call come on okay I'm ja 433 South AR Street tax here in D I want to 8 00:00:49,879 --> 00:00:54,079 know exactly what is this 9 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:05,600 25 on and you're going to assess us another 25 on our taxes per foot yes for 10 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:13,200 the amount around our property but just the linear Frontage for just well I live 11 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:19,079 on the corner still just front so that means now that the taxes for the linear 12 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:26,040 front on my property in front will be 85 a fo yes that's right okay passes 13 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:31,920 yeah and now what are you going to do with this other 25 14 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:38,439 cents well was the the plan is is we're going to do uh some snow 15 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:45,479 removal plus a lot of repairing on the streets like some chip 16 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:51,320 ceiling uh filling potholes and that the biggest problem that we had is it was 17 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:55,920 signed up for a bond that Glendale 18 00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:03,680 Walnut digil trying to make sure I get the names right that was like 188,00 19 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:08,599 $189,000 so that's one of the reasons we had to increase it some otherwise we 20 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:16,080 wouldn't have any money to do any Street repair 21 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:20,480 now CU we were originally raising about 24,000 at 22 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:27,599 $160 but 189 of that went to a bond 23 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:32,840 payment okay and so that let 50,000 to try to do streets that's 24 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:38,239 not enough money right but we was able to do it with that little extra and I me 25 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:45,000 we can't get rid of the bond but that little extra 25 cents extra allows us to 26 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:51,560 do the streets or do not all the street but try to get them in repair okay well 27 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:56,280 now is this this 25 cents now that's going to retire this this debt that we 28 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,280 owe I'm assuming this is a debt we owe this 188,000 is that going to retire 29 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:07,640 that debt uh not this year the debt was 1.8 30 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:10,280 million and it was taken for 10 years or you have to retire in 10 years and this 31 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:16,519 is year two two I think well then does that 32 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:21,080 so there's eight more years to go next year there'll be another 25 cents and 33 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:27,440 then the year after that I'm hoping this is it that's is not going to keep adding 34 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:32,239 but it's going to stay probably the same is going to stay 25 cents I me you're 35 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:36,439 hoping that it will stay 25 cents for the duration of this Bond until it is 36 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:43,000 paid off the plan that's the whole in the 37 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:48,879 plan okay and and it's I mean I'm say you penel this 38 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:54,159 out mror wanted to say okay oh yeah I I do want to just make a comment I mean 39 00:03:51,319 --> 00:04:00,959 there there over the next eight years there could be other Street projects uh 40 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:09,760 that we need to get done so I I mean the 25 cents in future years uh we might 41 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:17,199 have another uh amount at not okay so that means in the Deb I mean 42 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:21,799 we would continue to pay the 188,000 whatever it is but our taxes would go up 43 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:28,960 on Street Maintenance strictly for Street Maintenance and to pay off this 44 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:31,600 yes this 1.8 million which occurred because of 45 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:43,280 the work that was done on vigilante and oh mainly about a million went into 46 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Glendale Street about round numbers okay about a million of that went into 47 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Glendale Street May a little bit more I just in thinking about this today 48 00:04:52,800 --> 00:05:01,560 and deciding to come down here what happens if you would 49 00:04:56,479 --> 00:05:01,560 default and not pay that 50 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:09,320 00 uh does anybody know what would happen maybe my treasure what happened 51 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,560 to be default on a loan like that do you know if the city defaults or if you 52 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:20,560 refuse to pay your taxes no I'm not talking about tax I'm talking about the 53 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,560 city of Dy defaults on paying that 54 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:31,000 $188,000 bill this my understanding is that's a general obligation Bond of the 55 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:37,400 city and uh we could 56 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:44,039 be you know uh we could be forced to to pay that out of other taxable 57 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:53,199 monies uh by the courts and uh that would mean less money 58 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:58,479 for police fire whatever else the is funded out of the general fund so you 59 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:03,280 could be forced to pay it well will be forced to pay it it would mainly since 60 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:11,039 it's a general obligation bond that means it's taken off or with the taxes 61 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:18,560 and so they you they can use to pay that Bond they can use your tax money which 62 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:24,680 is the general fund uh health insurance retirement yeah uh those things the fire 63 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:31,039 they can't really touch the fire but so that money we'd have to set aside uh 64 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:37,000 like right now it's it's like 270,000 right now is the 65 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:44,919 general fund for the taxes so we'd have to use 189,000 of that to pay the bond 66 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:49,680 which would leave I would have to then lay a lot of people off or we would have 67 00:06:47,599 --> 00:06:56,000 to go to court and the court would then have to order taxes to be raised yeah 68 00:06:53,199 --> 00:07:01,520 there um which I don't want to do any of I'm not and I don't I don't want us to 69 00:06:59,039 --> 00:07:07,120 do that but when I think about that I was in did a little banking business in 70 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:11,800 my early career for about seven years and I know that when you didn't make 71 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:16,440 your payment and there was foreclosure of course they went into the property 72 00:07:13,479 --> 00:07:21,599 and I thought today well they can't go in and rip the streets up I mean and 73 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:28,560 they would not do that I'm quite positive that they would do it but uh I 74 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:34,000 would imagine that you would be a never be able to 75 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:38,919 alone again it would be really hard to do you can still get it but you'd be 76 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:44,560 paying out of your nose on interest and a bunch of other things yeah it would be 77 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:49,000 really very costly to the city from then on I don't think we want to go there I 78 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:55,440 don't think you do either but I also looking at this and being the 79 00:07:52,120 --> 00:08:00,159 devil's advocate here you know at times that probably wouldn't be too bad deal 80 00:07:57,599 --> 00:08:06,159 you know why because it would make us all very fisal 81 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:10,919 respons and we would have to live within our budget and we wouldn't go off on 82 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:15,840 these tangents of spending more money than we 83 00:08:12,039 --> 00:08:20,080 have and while I I do not want that to happen to the city of Dylan I'm just 84 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:24,879 looking at it as thinking as a retired person and how many retired people we 85 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:30,919 have here in the city of Dyan and really we only have the hospital FES the 86 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:35,719 college they're not sent 87 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:41,159 inet and I would just urge you to be very very 88 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:46,440 careful I you know about how you spend the taxpayers money when it is retired 89 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:51,760 people that are putting forth the money to run your schools and your streets and 90 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:58,800 your retirement and hiring people thank you thank 91 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,200 you any other comments on Street Maintenance 92 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:11,560 I we'll just wait somebody feels like they want to comment come up introduce 93 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,120 yourself 94 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,120 make 95 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 for 96 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,040 the 97 00:11:07,079 --> 00:11:16,680 I just want to say do what you said and I think really what we're facing here is 98 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:21,120 in the past over spending and over borrowing and things you say are right I 99 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:27,639 think the council is I think they're working this year to 100 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:27,639 try to get that into 101 00:11:27,959 --> 00:11:31,680 control thank 102 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:48,320 you soua uh is there anyway 103 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:59,040 uh i' I've walked around and i' I've noticed sidewalk with Shrubbery and 104 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:07,800 stuff covering the sidewalks one side walk down there somebody a l up right 105 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:16,199 side you can't even walk down you got to go out the road around it and I just 106 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:22,279 wonder if there's any any way to make people start taking interest in their 107 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:27,880 own property to to uh 108 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:33,519 correct for pedestrian walk know if there's 109 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:39,199 any rule or anything or rather just knock on the door and say hey that's a 110 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:45,199 mess you know so I I just wondered if if there's anything that on the books about 111 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:52,079 well we've been trying to get a lot of this stuff cleaned up on that if they're 112 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:56,560 doing like some work on the building or whatever sometimes we kind of let them 113 00:12:54,079 --> 00:13:02,920 go for a few days because they're working and you know overall we do would 114 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:09,720 have them clean up in that of course to make sure you can get by this one had a 115 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:13,959 building side or any repair or anything like this was just down the 116 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:27,760 sidewalk but hang way over we got to go out in a a lot of it so where was 117 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,760 that well that was down on Atlantic and 118 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 I 119 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:47,040 can't house on the corner where that big van was without the steering 120 00:13:48,120 --> 00:14:00,000 wheel okay that corner house if you go if you go west beside their house down 121 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:05,000 there dir piled up BR coming 122 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:11,000 out that that's just one place okay but that's the worst I've seen okay we'll 123 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:11,000 we'll check it out 124 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,680 okay 125 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:51,800 okay if there isn't any other comments on the Street Maintenance I will close 126 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:56,720 the public hearing 127 00:14:53,920 --> 00:15:01,360 going going closed 128 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:06,279 now let's open up the public hearing on the G in the budget in general for the 129 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,279 fiscal year 130 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:16,320 2014 now we'll open it for the fiscal year budget for the city of Dylan for 131 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:20,160 2014 2015 and also for leving the tax the assessments for the Special 132 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Districts including lighting stream and sprinkling and special Improvement 133 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:33,079 districts 33 34 35 36 and 37 and then the annual amount for the general 134 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:36,079 obligation bond for the 2009 that's the police retirement 135 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Bond it's open for anybody that wants to speak on it and we'll leave that open 136 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:50,319 probably for 10 minutes I'll give five minutes to get ready for the meeting 137 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:53,680 after that unless there's people talking I'll let it keep going if there's 138 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,600 other 139 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,399 sir how's it 140 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:30,519 going 141 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 go 142 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:30,400 this one's de this one's dead this one's dead this one 143 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:46,160 but they took everything and just put new liner on top no no new liner there's 144 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,520 l so just 145 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:13,720 chainsaw electric chainsaw 146 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:16,320 electric bu around the pond we got a good we 147 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,600 got 148 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,320 vle 149 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,840 called the you can talk to Bob 150 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:48,880 about facult 151 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:56,880 Pond and it used to the birds used to come in 152 00:18:54,159 --> 00:19:01,240 there remember the birds that used to come in there totally 153 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,080 covered 154 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,240 come 155 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,799 you say no 156 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,240 comment 157 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:30,159 side 158 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,559 that's what I remember 159 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,360 stat I 160 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:30,039 think 161 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:41,960 as long as ones that are voting for are here during the 162 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:45,720 hearing then we're okay if anybody else comes in and votes on it then we would 163 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:50,360 have to get some minutes in of the hearing so they can be informed of what 164 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:55,159 happened during the hearing but all I believe it just takes 165 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:03,880 a most most of the stuff is a quum yeah I 166 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:07,600 know most of the stuff AUM but thought the budget was the one exception 167 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 to 168 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,279 for any newcomers this is the public hearing for 169 00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:55,120 the budget so if anybody wants to get up and speak for or con for accepting any 170 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,120 of 171 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,960 them 172 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,880 yes 173 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,880 bable 174 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,279 that big sign on it says did REM from this 175 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,279 table it has to 176 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:36,880 doy it was lost it was now apparently it's lost 177 00:24:30,399 --> 00:24:36,880 again ah there it is not lost just 178 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:02,720 okay figure out we 179 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:16,440 that this is the first time in probably 15 years that we haven't received tra 180 00:25:26,679 --> 00:25:33,720 from last call for 181 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,720 anybody that wants to 182 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:45,760 speak Ed what we got stuck with 183 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:45,760 going going for the last call for 184 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:56,679 speakers okay I'm closing the hearing we'll have five more minutes and we'll 185 00:25:54,399 --> 00:25:59,679 four minutes we'll start