[0:10] I'll call
the public hearing to order first on the
[0:16] agenda will be the Street Maintenance
fund if anybody in the
[0:22] public has any comments Pro or
con for the Street
[0:28] Maintenance
feel free to come on up to the P of
[0:33] table and
[0:36] speak and we'll
wait probably like 10 minutes and after
[0:42] that we'll call come on okay I'm ja 433
South AR Street tax here in D I want to
[0:49] know exactly what is this
[0:54] 25 on and you're going to assess us
another 25 on our taxes per foot yes for
[1:03] the amount around our property but just
the linear Frontage for just well I live
[1:08] on the corner still just front so that
means now that the taxes for the linear
[1:16] front on my property in front will be
85 a fo yes that's right okay passes
[1:23] yeah and now what are you going to do
with this other 25
[1:28] cents well was the the plan is is we're
going to do uh some snow
[1:35] removal plus a lot of repairing on the
streets like some chip
[1:41] ceiling uh filling potholes and that the
biggest problem that we had is it was
[1:47] signed up for a bond that
Glendale
[1:53] Walnut digil trying to make sure I get
the names right that was like 188,00
[2:01] $189,000 so that's one of the reasons we
had to increase it some otherwise we
[2:06] wouldn't have any money to do any Street
repair
[2:10] now CU we were originally raising about
24,000 at
[2:18] $160 but
189 of that went to a bond
[2:23] payment okay and so that let 50,000 to
try to do streets that's
[2:30] not enough money right but we was able
to do it with that little extra and I me
[2:36] we can't get rid of the bond but that
little extra 25 cents extra allows us to
[2:41] do the streets or do not all the street
but try to get them in repair okay well
[2:48] now is this this 25 cents now that's
going to retire this this debt that we
[2:54] owe I'm assuming this is a debt we owe
this 188,000 is that going to retire
[2:59] that debt
uh not this year the debt was 1.8
[3:03] million and it was taken for 10 years or
you have to retire in 10 years and this
[3:09] is
year two two I think well then does that
[3:14] so there's eight more years to go next
year there'll be another 25 cents and
[3:18] then the year after that I'm hoping this
is it that's is not going to keep adding
[3:24] but it's going to stay probably the same
is going to stay 25 cents I me you're
[3:29] hoping that it will stay 25 cents for
the duration of this Bond until it is
[3:35] paid
off the plan that's the whole in the
[3:39] plan okay and and it's I mean I'm say
you penel this
[3:44] out mror wanted to say okay oh yeah I I
do want to just make a comment I mean
[3:51] there there over the next eight years
there could be other Street projects uh
[3:58] that we need to get done so I I mean the
25 cents in future years uh we might
[4:05] have another uh amount at
not okay so that means in the Deb I mean
[4:14] we would continue to pay the 188,000
whatever it is but our taxes would go up
[4:19] on Street Maintenance strictly for
Street Maintenance and to pay off this
[4:25] yes this 1.8 million which occurred
because of
[4:32] the work that was done on vigilante and
oh mainly about a million went into
[4:39] Glendale Street about round numbers okay
about a million of that went into
[4:45] Glendale Street May a little bit
more I just in thinking about this today
[4:52] and deciding to come down here what
happens if you would
[4:56] default and not pay that
[5:01] 00 uh does anybody know what would
happen maybe my treasure what happened
[5:07] to be default on a loan like that do you
know if the city defaults or if you
[5:12] refuse to pay your taxes no I'm not
talking about tax I'm talking about the
[5:16] city of Dy defaults on paying that
[5:21] $188,000 bill this my understanding is
that's a general obligation Bond of the
[5:27] city and uh
we could
[5:32] be you know uh we could be forced to to
pay that out of other taxable
[5:41] monies uh by the
courts and uh that would mean less money
[5:48] for police fire whatever else the is
funded out of the general fund so you
[5:55] could be forced to pay it well will be
forced to pay it it would mainly since
[6:01] it's a general obligation bond that
means it's taken off or with the taxes
[6:08] and so they you they can use to pay that
Bond they can use your tax money which
[6:13] is the general fund uh health insurance
retirement yeah uh those things the fire
[6:22] they can't really touch the fire but so
that money we'd have to set aside uh
[6:27] like right now it's
it's like 270,000 right now is the
[6:34] general fund for the taxes so we'd have
to use 189,000 of that to pay the bond
[6:42] which would leave I would have to then
lay a lot of people off or we would have
[6:47] to go to court and the court would then
have to order taxes to be raised yeah
[6:53] there um which I don't want to do any of
I'm not and I don't I don't want us to
[6:59] do that but when I think about that I
was in did a little banking business in
[7:04] my early career for about seven years
and I know that when you didn't make
[7:09] your payment and there was foreclosure
of course they went into the property
[7:13] and I thought today well they can't go
in and rip the streets up I mean and
[7:18] they would not do that I'm quite
positive that they would do it but uh I
[7:25] would imagine that you would be a never
be able to
[7:30] alone again it would be really hard to
do you can still get it but you'd be
[7:35] paying out of your nose on interest and
a bunch of other things yeah it would be
[7:41] really very costly to the city from then
on I don't think we want to go there I
[7:46] don't think you do either but I
also looking at this and being the
[7:52] devil's advocate here you know at times
that probably wouldn't be too bad deal
[7:57] you know why because it would make us
all very fisal
[8:03] respons and we would have to live within
our budget and we wouldn't go off on
[8:08] these tangents of spending more money
than we
[8:12] have and while I I do not want that to
happen to the city of Dylan I'm just
[8:17] looking at it as thinking as a retired
person and how many retired people we
[8:22] have here in the city of Dyan and really
we only have the hospital FES the
[8:28] college they're
not sent
[8:33] inet and I would just urge you to be
very very
[8:37] careful I you know about how you spend
the taxpayers money when it is retired
[8:43] people that are putting forth the money
to run your schools and your streets and
[8:49] your retirement and hiring
people thank you thank
[8:56] you any other comments on Street
Maintenance
[9:04] I we'll just wait somebody feels like
they want to comment come up introduce
[9:28] yourself
[9:58] make
[10:28] for
[10:58] the
[11:07] I just want to say do what you said and
I think really what we're facing here is
[11:13] in the past over spending and over
borrowing and things you say are right I
[11:19] think the council
is I think they're working this year to
[11:24] try to get that into
[11:27] control
thank
[11:41] you soua uh is there anyway
[11:48] uh i' I've walked around and i' I've
noticed sidewalk with Shrubbery and
[11:55] stuff covering the sidewalks one side
walk down there somebody a l up right
[12:04] side you can't even walk down you got to
go out the road around it and I just
[12:10] wonder if there's any any way to make
people start taking interest in their
[12:18] own property to to
uh
[12:24] correct for pedestrian
walk know if there's
[12:30] any rule or anything or rather just
knock on the door and say hey that's a
[12:35] mess you know so I I just wondered if if
there's anything that on the books about
[12:42] well we've been trying to get a lot of
this stuff cleaned up on that if they're
[12:49] doing like some work on the building or
whatever sometimes we kind of let them
[12:54] go for a few days because they're
working and you know overall we do would
[13:00] have them clean up in that of course to
make sure you can get by this one had a
[13:06] building side or any repair or anything
like this was just down the
[13:14] sidewalk but hang way over we got to go
out in a a lot of it so where was
[13:23] that well that was down on Atlantic
and
[13:34] I
[13:39] can't house on the corner where that big
van was without the steering
[13:48] wheel okay that corner house if you go
if you go west beside their house down
[13:56] there dir piled up
BR coming
[14:01] out that that's just one place okay but
that's the worst I've seen okay we'll
[14:07] we'll check it out
[14:27] okay
[14:45] okay if there isn't any other comments
on the Street Maintenance I will close
[14:49] the public
hearing
[14:53] going
going closed
[14:59] now let's open up the public hearing on
the G in the budget in general for the
[15:03] fiscal year
[15:06] 2014 now we'll open it for the fiscal
year budget for the city of Dylan for
[15:11] 2014 2015 and also for leving the tax
the assessments for the Special
[15:18] Districts including lighting stream and
sprinkling and special Improvement
[15:22] districts 33 34 35 36 and 37 and then
the annual amount for the general
[15:29] obligation bond for the 2009 that's the
police retirement
[15:36] Bond it's open for anybody that wants to
speak on it and we'll leave that open
[15:42] probably for 10 minutes I'll give five
minutes to get ready for the meeting
[15:47] after that unless there's people talking
I'll let it keep going if there's
[15:57] other
[16:17] sir how's it
[16:27] going
[16:57] go
[17:22] this one's de this one's
dead this one's dead this one
[17:37] but they took everything and just put
new liner on top no no new liner there's
[17:57] l so just
[18:06] chainsaw electric
chainsaw
[18:09] electric bu around the pond we got a
good we
[18:17] got
[18:27] vle
[18:38] called
the you can talk to Bob
[18:45] about facult
[18:49] Pond and it used to the birds used to
come in
[18:54] there remember the birds that used to
come in there totally
[19:14] covered
[19:27] come
[19:46] you
say no
[19:57] comment
[20:27] side
[20:52] that's what I remember
[20:57] stat I
[21:27] think
[21:33] as long as ones that are voting for are
here during the
[21:38] hearing then we're okay if anybody else
comes in and votes on it then we would
[21:43] have to get some minutes in of the
hearing so they can be informed of what
[21:48] happened during the
hearing but all I believe it just takes
[21:57] a
most most of the stuff is a quum yeah I
[22:01] know most of the stuff AUM but thought
the budget was the one exception
[22:26] to
[22:43] for any
newcomers this is the public hearing for
[22:47] the budget so if anybody wants to get up
and speak for or con for accepting any
[22:52] of
[22:56] them
[23:26] yes
[23:56] bable
[24:09] that big sign on it says did REM from
this
[24:14] table it has to
[24:24] doy it was lost it was now apparently
it's lost
[24:30] again ah there it is not lost just
[24:56] okay
figure out we
[25:08] that this is the first time in probably
15 years that we haven't received tra
[25:26] from
last call for
[25:29] anybody that wants to
[25:35] speak Ed what we got stuck
with
[25:40] going going for the last call for
[25:47] speakers okay I'm closing the hearing
we'll have five more minutes and we'll
[25:54] four minutes we'll
start