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I'd like to call the august 19th, 2025 meeting

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of the dimity county board of supervisors to order. Do we have the roll call,

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please? Dr. Moore? Here. Mr. Chavis? Here. Ms. Ebra bonner.

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here. Mr. Dooley. Here. Mr. Lee. Here. Five board members present.

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alright. At this time, if you'll join me in the invocation

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followed by the pledge of allegiance,

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I'll follow father lord heaven, I'll be thy name. Thy

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kingdom come. I will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses

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as we forgive those who trespassed against us. And lead us not to

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temptation, but deliver us from evil, for ths, the kingdom,

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the power, and the glory for our amen.

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america,

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and to the republic of which it stands. One nation under

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god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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all right, thank you. And, and I want to welcome everybody here,

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um, this afternoon. Uh, at this time

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do we have any amendments to the agenda? Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman,

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we need to add under action items, uh, on section seven

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and h, which be, which would be a contract award for

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a chevy tahoe support vehicle for fire and ems.

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and that, that, uh, resol, um, packet information

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is sitting on your, on your desk here.

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h seven. Yep. H okay.

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y'all help me with that when we get, we'll get you, we will .

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any, any other additions to the agenda?

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somebody would like to make a motion, so move a second.

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second. Roll call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr.

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chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee?

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aye. All voting? Aye. Alright, thank you. So, uh,

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we have that added to the agenda at this time. You have

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the, uh, consent agenda before you, um,

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you've had time to look over it. Um, any,

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anything you'd like to pull out and discuss or is it, um,

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someone would like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda?

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so moved. Second. Alright. Do we have the roll call

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please? Dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye.

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mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye. Alright,

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we're going to move on to reports. Virginia department of transportation.

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uh, mr. Aaron french,

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mr. Chair members of the board, good afternoon. I missed getting up here my last

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month, by the way. Yes, sir. It was, uh, unfortunately dealing with some flooding that day and

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have accumulated quite a list of updates, uh, in the past two months.

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ferndale and river road. The, uh, proposed roundabout, that project

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is advertised for construction right now. Went out last week. Um, it is a month long

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advertisement period. We will award the contract in september given

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we get a successful bid and, uh, construction will

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likely start, uh, november or december for that project. It has a spring

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2027 completion date. Um, some traffic changes

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and closures associated with that, that, uh, we will be working closely with

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public re relations communications with to advise public appropriately

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of. I talked to our construction superintendent, uh,

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overseeing the bain road bridge replacement this morning. They are

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setting the first span of that structure today, probably as we speak,

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as, uh, weather for them has been great the past two weeks. They were able to get the footers in

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for that structure and, uh, you should see it. They, it, it's five

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pieces. This entire bridge is on that and I've got a picture of 'em. It's,

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they put 'em on a low boy truck, take 'em out there and pick 'em up and set 'em down like big legos.

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almost very neat. But, uh, we are on on schedule for

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a completion, uh, for the 1st of october for that project.

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the tranquility road royal rustic project. Uh, we've been working on that. The

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church road area headquarters has been steady on that for a couple weeks. So we've

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got all the pipes replaced, uh, ditching and grading done on that this week

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we are gonna start adding our subgrade stone. So start building that road up, doing some grading

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with the actual profile of the road and, uh, get it hard surfaced

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probably in about two weeks. Uh, looking at wrapping that project up, the

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cherry hill royal rustic, uh, is going to be in shortly. I believe it's

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week next week. Um, we are going to have a closure

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associated with that project, given the availability of a detour

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for that route and the narrowness of the route, rather than having to

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do flag or control working with lane closures through the limited traffic,

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we made the decision to go ahead and close the road, allow the crew to get in there and work safely and much

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quicker as well. Uh, the detours vary short and there are no homes

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on the road. It's a cut through road, so it'll allow us to get in there and get that project

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knocked out quicker and safer. Um, that will, we'll

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be working with communications with that on as well. Get the, uh, public advised

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of the closure and place. Message boards in a full detour will be posted,

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um, after cherry hill. Uh, we'll be moving on to the reese road, royal

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rustic as well. Probably take a couple week break, um, after cherry hill

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to catch up on some maintenance tasks and then begin reese road later

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on. Uh, probably early fall. That is a pretty short project. Should only

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take a few weeks to knock that out. We generally lose

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our, uh, window to do these rural rustics about late november once it gets too cold

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to do the tar and ship application. Route 6 51 whitmore

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road. Uh, that road is currently closed as a result of some flooding. Um,

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in mid-july is a large culvert failure, uh, there at the pond

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once you turn off of route 40. Uh, that project is currently under

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construction. We're doing a complete replacement on that pipe. It was a large

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steel large pipe. We're going back with a double line of 60 inch diameter plastic pipe,

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so no more rusted pipe, uh, there to replace in 50 years.

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um, that, uh, project we are working to expedite

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not only to get the road open, it is the detour for

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the structure on route six 13 gills bridge road. Um, we're

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gonna probably see a closure on route six 13

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at, uh, that structure in the next couple weeks to do some regular maintenance work

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on that structure and they'll be using whitmore road as the detour for that project.

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um, additionally we're planning culvert replacement on route 7 0 3, um,

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carson road. That's gonna require detour. The

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contractor that's doing this pipe on whitmore road is gonna jump, um, over to another locality

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knock on a project there, then come back to 7 0 3 and take care of that pipe.

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it will probably be, uh, sometime in the mid-october timeframe that we're executing that

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edgeline rumble strips, uh, have been installed on four 60. Uh, this was

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a safety improvement, I think it was requested several years ago. Mm-hmm . Um,

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and they have finally been installed. So we are working through

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that and enjoying, uh, the mixed

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reaction from the public from installing the rumble strips. But, um, they

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are great safety improvement and will help us with our maintenance as well. No more people

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continuously running off the shoulder and running out the shoulder and so, uh,

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we'll, we'll save some work for us in the long run as well. If

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you notice there's a section of those rumble strips on four 60 that was skipped. It's a section,

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um, right at the courthouse road intersection on four 60. That section

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is gonna be milled and paved later on this paving season. So it was omitted.

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they'll come and do the milling and paving and then put the rumbles through that section.

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we wrapped up a cycle of mowing in the last couple weeks in the county.

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every primary and secondary was cut and we'll issue,

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um, our last cycle of mowing in the fall, probably october timeframe.

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and that'll be a full, full with right away mow. Um, we will still, however,

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continue to do everything up at exit 63, those splitter islands

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regularly. I think it's on two week intervals. Um,

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any questions from the board? Any questions, comments?

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I, I do. Um, did you, I know I mentioned before, the defense is on,

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on 85 at a one of our meetings. I know in the last few weeks we've

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had cattle on the roadway at least twice on 85 near the 6 56 and

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58 mile marker to where deputies and animal control have had to go out and

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actually remove them from the interstate. So if you could check on that.

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okay. We did the, the contractor that oversees the interstate maintenance mm-hmm

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. Was bought out. They're, they're going through kind of a turnover with that contract right now. I

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will, I'll check on the status of that, see if they have anything updated. At least especially

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that area, sir, the cattle, I think it's been addressed with the owner of the cows, but

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at the same time, I'd hate to see somebody hit a cow doing

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80 miles an hour. Absolutely. That'd be very tragic.

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absolutely. Um, just a question pertaining to, if,

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if there's a timeframe, uh, in the future that

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the northbound exit off of four 60 onto

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to 85 at, at 63 exit 63,

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that, that it gets a tremendous amount of traffic and it's pretty

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rough. The first 20 to 30 feet as you come off mm-hmm . Of the

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pavement of four 60 onto it mm-hmm . So I just didn't, I'm not

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whenever that schedule at least let me know. Gimme an sir idea when, when that's

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projected to be rem milled, that's likely

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something we can do with, with our oncall. I have been noticing it is getting

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increasingly rough. Um, yes, I would talk your, your traffic

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count at sheets has dramatically changed your

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on and off at that energy. It'd be very curious to see at

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some point next spring to put down a, you know, something

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to tell us what our numbers are at that, uh, that intersection.

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um, 'cause I think it'll, it'll be surprising what, what that number is

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compared to what it's been in the past. Mm-hmm . Absolutely. I'm sure it is any significant. So the sheer number

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of traffic flow. Yes. And that, that is a habitual location that we've had to mill and pave.

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there's probably something going on with the subgrade there. I think it was

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four years ago. Only we, we did that spot. So yeah. It may be something that

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we work with, uh, our materials folks with, take a, take a deeper dive into

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it, do some coring and, and see what's going on. Get an engineered repair

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and then mill it and pave it so we don't have to every four or five years go out there

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and do it. You got it. Thank you. Absolutely. On the, the sheets note,

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um, the construction, uh, to finish that wall

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is, is slated to begin in the near future as well. The barrier area's been placed. Um,

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so we should be seeing a resolution of that in the near future. Yep. Thank

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you. And the east side bridge on 85 coming back

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to right one has got patches on patches on patches.

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oh yeah, absolutely. So that bridge they are currently waiting for some funding on.

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it's got funding on the project, not enough to move to construction

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yet it's accruing funding. So over the next couple of funding cycles, we should see

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a new surface put on the top of that structure. Okay. Okay.

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um, uh, and I heard you talk about the grass cutting. So,

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um, the overpass, uh, you know, it grows fast with that

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water and everything like that. So I, I, I know how it is because, um, people at that

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homes have to cut the grass a lot a lit a lot more. Um,

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had a question about, um, the rain when it's,

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I know the storm, I don't know if carolina, I don't think it's gonna come close to

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us as far as, um, the, uh, homeowners

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and, uh, different areas if things gonna stay out near the water

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instead of coming close the coastal water and everything like that. Just wanted

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to, um, remind you about the, uh, the ditches. Yes ma'am. So making sure

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that they are, um, not clogged mm-hmm . So that water won't go back

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into, um, businesses or homes. Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. We

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are, we are closely watching that storm. Oh yeah. Um, right now we don't expect a major

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response, but I, I check it about every 12 hours to see if anything has changed. Yes.

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it's the first thing I do when I get in the office every morning, so, uh, okay. Alright. Thank you. Yes,

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ma'am. Mr. Chavis, thank you for the update on

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the bridge. Uh, talked to billy today. He, uh, said he had talked to you already

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today. Yes, sir. Uh, but he wants to know you, you

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gave me the date in october. Is it gonna be the end of october? 1st of october is

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what I was told. Oh, good. Uh, that's, I know I've been

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mouthy. It's better than, but I won't have to do that anymore. Right. So

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7 0 3. Yes sir. On ramp is in bad

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shape. So, um,

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it's got potholes. Mm-hmm . I don't know if you've noticed that lately or have you even

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been that way, but, uh, on ramps got right

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there is real bad. Okay. So going northbound or southbound on 85, it's,

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it's on the, uh, northbound side going on is, uh,

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real bad. It is just all, all the way up till you almost get on

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95. Is uh, donna might be able to tell you that. Have you been riding

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at any 7 0 3? Yeah, I mean seven. Oh on ramp from

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off 7 0 3 on to nine, uh, 85 somewhat. Yeah, I try to,

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yeah, I usually try to stay on route one, but it's, um, pretty

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bad. So just take a look at that, sir. Yes sir. That's all I have. I tend to take the scenic route

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on route one as well. , huh? I tend to take the scenic route on route one as well,

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so yeah. I will go back that way now and give it again. Yeah, well you, you'll

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see it. It's a and it's bad on tires I tell you that, so

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thank you. Absolutely. Um, and not sure whether kevin has

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mentioned this archangel estates, um, which is

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off of, uh, scotch road. It's a private road

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that was supposed to come into the state system at some

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point, the developer, um, or one of the citizens

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reached out to me to try to get the developer,

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um, to a punch list of what he needed to do.

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um, she got it, I think she gave it to him and he didn't

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do anything and now he's died. Um, and

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she, what started out is the stop sign got knocked down,

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but now she would like to do another punch list

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to find out what needs to be done. And I'd like

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for the county to kind of be involved in it too, because if it's any way we

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can get that road into the state system,

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uh, I will tell you it's a fall better road than baltimore road.

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um, so, um, you know, whatever we need to do

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to try to help those folks out. Um, but I'd

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like to see us do it. So yes, sir. Yep. I will, uh,

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talk with our land u staff about that. I'm, I'm sure they're probably aware of the

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status of it and we'll take a look at that. Okay. Absolutely.

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yep. Yeah, no, not you have any more with

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you? I've got some, no. Yes, if you could,

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I was gonna bring up archangel, but I'm obviously mr. Lee just has, so

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it, it would be helpful to get an understanding of what that punch list may look like. And

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I don't, we can check from a county perspective, I'm assuming the performance bond on that's probably already

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been released. So we, we would really need to look at it and yes.

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yeah. My and his mind was immediately jumping to what, what's happening with the bond

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and if it's been released and how might we address

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that. I will say from what we're told, you

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are already pushing it for snow and I think the county's picking up kids

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on the road. So that being said, the road is still

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not in the system though, so just something to take a look at. Yes, sir. Um,

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aaron, in the, in the packet you had under traffic studies and special requests,

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a request was made to look at halligan park road in a 25 mile hour additional

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signage. It was indicated in the report that the study was conducted,

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but no recommendations were made. Um, I'm just kind of curious

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as to, I guess what, again, the thought was just adding signage

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mm-hmm . Not necessarily reducing the area 'cause that's already in place, but if there are

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other traffic calming techniques that maybe could be done or just

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when there's no recommendation, maybe we can look at maybe some

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other things. Yeah. So I'm not extremely familiar with that one. I will say that

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typically, um, unless we have a request

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from the sheriff's office or depending on the length of the speed zone mm-hmm

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. We will only support posting it to the minimum standard.

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um, it may be a case where it's, it's a short of speed zone and it's posted to minimum

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standard. I will, I'll go back and take a look at that and I'm, I'm not too sure if this came through

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the county first or the transportation safety and planning committee if it was

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brought there too, but just the origin of the concern. 'cause I, I don't know where

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the request came from. I don't think we made it, but I'd be just curious 'cause it's

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in mr. Cha's district as to where that would be. Um, sterling

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road, I know we did a study there on no truck traffic that was approved

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to, to eliminate no truck traffic on that. Has the signage been put in place?

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yes, sir. For that? That's, that's been done. Yes sir. Yep. Okay. Um,

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so the question about the mowing, so we get one more mow and that's probably gonna be in october.

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yes sir. Um, if there are funds, question was asked if, if there are

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funds left over from what's been allocated to cutting grass,

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do those funds just get reallocated to other maintenance items? So the funding that

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we use for our mowing comes out of our general maintenance fund. Um, generally

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the, the residency gets roughly 10 million a year to

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support all general regular maintenance operations. That's

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our overhead payroll. And the same funding

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that we pay for the mowing with is the same funding we pay for ditching with and

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pipe replacements. And so it, it's variable year to year depending on what we

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have going on. Um, but typically

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once we complete that mowing it's, it we'll just expend the rest

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of the funds on, on everything else on the regular

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activities. Um, the way that our fiscal years work, however, because we do

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run a july to july fiscal year mm-hmm . We have to typically cut

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before each fiscal year begins. So we will, we try to set

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aside enough, uh, funding for a mowing cycle. So going

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into this fall, we'll look at setting aside what we need to have

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enough to do a cycle in the spring.

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so I guess just from the board's perspective mm-hmm . If there are funds that

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are left over from what you're anticipating, is there

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ever a situation in which those funds, if not used in denwoody

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county for our aspect of the residency, that those funds would go to another

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locality for their purposes? Not generally. Okay. We try

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to split everything up. Um, the way that our area headquarters

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boundaries are done, they are all split

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very evenly. It's within 10 miles, 10 lane miles

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per each area headquarters. We allocate basically

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our, our budget's divided by four nearly evenly. Um, so

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generally any, any specific funding we get for the county will stay in

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the county. Um, but to do the mowing, and

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I will say that denwoody is the largest county in this residency. So denwoody

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does get the majority of our, we get our share of our funding. Yes, sir. . Yeah. So the, the

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reason for the, the questioning is, and even talking

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to ms. Ebra bonner, there's been a significant amount of, um, storm water complaints.

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some of those obviously on private property yes sir. But in some areas

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they potentially could be in, in vdo s right away. And it's just more of a simple ditch

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clean mm-hmm . Um, so the thought was that there are some funds that potentially could be made

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or shifted available. Is that something that you all just determined the priority

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or is it something that the board of supervisors could, could suggest

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that specific areas of state maintain road that those ditches

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be done in a, in a different priority? Mm-hmm . We will absolutely take priorities.

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okay. Um, if, if the board has an area, a route group of

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routes that, that they would like us to review, no problem taking a

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look at it. I will say that on a statewide basis, um, everything

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that we do, all of our maintenance activities, ditching, tree removal, mowing,

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it is all tracked. Um, we have metrics and at a high level

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our, uh, maintenance and operations folks look at those

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metrics and they can make a determination to give us

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specific funding for addressing high need areas.

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um, ditching is one of those high need areas. It was, I wanna say three fiscal

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years ago we got $7 million. The richmond district did, uh,

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petersburg residency got roughly 3 million to allocate two additional,

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um, maintenance activities. This year they've done something similar and they have

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given us additional funding specifically for ditching itself. So

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that is by happenstance already occurring. Um, I think in

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petersburg we got roughly 300,000, I want to say

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for ditching that will be split between, um, our three localities that

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we serve. But we pay less than a dollar a foot for a

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contractor to do that ditching. So it is, it's quite a substantial amount of ditching we'll be

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doing. Um, we are moving west to east with that contractor,

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so we should be, uh, seeing some additional ditching done at denwoody here

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in the near future. Um, so very good timing if, if there is an area

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of concern. Okay. Please do share. That's, that's helpful. Mm-hmm

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. And the last thing I have aaron, is um, earlier today I was in a meeting with chesterfield

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county, the apax river water authority. And uh,

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we as an authority are starting to work to update, um,

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the state water control board looks at future water planning needs.

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and so one of the potentials for our region that's still on the table

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would be at some point in the future to raise the dam

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at the, uh, lake ches, the brasfield dam, either 12, 18

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or 24 inches. So, you know, that's, that's still potentially

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gonna be a recommendation that we make. But one of the thoughts is that the, the

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whip knot marina area where the, where sutherland road in that particular

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bridge, uh, if you raise it even to the minimum 12

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inch or to the highest definitely to 24 inch, you, you start to have some issues

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with the only gas station marina on lake chosen

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not being able to have boats back and forth through that cove.

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um, so there was just a thought of, I know that the state was gonna continue to

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evaluate the functionality of that bridge and to anticipate when

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it needs to be replaced. So that if, if you could just, whoever

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in the department would know that, we're just trying to figure out what, what year

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you all are anticipating that replacement to be.

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so this is something that, um, we have put on our structure and bridge divisions

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radar. Uh, coincidentally we had a meeting last week, we have general update meetings

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with them folks for all the structures. But this one in particular is a structure

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that we talk about regularly, um, because they're looking for updates on it as

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well. Right now, uh, the conclusion that we've reached is

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they will construct, reconstruct a new structure at the

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existing height, but the way that they will design and build it is

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such that it can be easily raised at a future date. Jack

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the bridge up and block it. Um, the reason for that being

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is the, to raise it, we've gotta repro profile

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the entire roadway. Okay. We will keep the project on

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the current funding schedule at matching the existing elevation of

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the bridge. If it is determined that the level of of the lake is going

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to be raised, then we will go through and do the additional funding to

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repro profile the roadway and jack and raise the bridge. I know.

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yep. So is that additional funding, is that paid for by the department

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or would that be, if it's a an ra led project,

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is that considered to be like an ancillary asset that we would have to pay for?

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that is a very good question. I would've, I have to research that with the structure of bridge

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folks. . Yeah. Because that, I can imagine to your point

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of the approach, the, you know, it's obviously you go down to go

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up and, you know, you're, it's a pretty significant, um,

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math question I guess to make that work.

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yes. Okay. But it's something we need to look into. 'cause if it's a cost share

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or if it's something that, that the authority has to pay for, we really should anticipate

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that as a, an expense absolutely. In our water planning. Absolutely. Um,

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what, is there a, a timeline from the water authority perspective of no,

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it's, you know, I don't, my, I would suggest that it's the, the dam if

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it's raised is gonna be probably, um, after

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you all would make some improvements okay. To the bridge. I think the bridge is going to

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to, to probably need to be replaced before we raise the dam. Okay.

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and, and really the, the tail wagging the dog, so to speak, and this

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is chesterfield mm-hmm . So the, the growth of chesterfield county and

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the percentage ownership of lake che will dictate that probably sooner rather

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than later. Understood. And of course they're looking at other, um,

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water resources as well mm-hmm . To, to include further down on the

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appomattox. So we'll see. We will, but you

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know, when, when richmond had their issue with their water mm-hmm . You know, we back fed

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chesterfield all the way to, uh, midlothian turnpike.

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oh, was lake chester water? I was unaware of that. Yeah. So it,

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the system is there to, to use more. So when you

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were starting to look at chesterfield and their, uh, their ability to work where, I guess with the city of

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richmond and or trying to find another water supply,

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um, but, but your bridge is probably gonna need to be replaced before we raise

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the dam. I just want us to be smart about it in that absolutely. That cost. Mm-hmm .

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and mr. Chairman, that's all I had. Okay. Any other comments

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question? Alright. Thank you aaron. Have a good evening. Thank you. Thank you. Yep.

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okay, we're gonna move on to action items. And the first

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one, uh, contract award fire truck, uh, chief

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kissner.

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good afternoon. Chairman lee, members of the board before you to,

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before you this evening is the purchase of a replacement engine for ford fire

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station. Number two. The contract

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in front of you is to go into a contract with atlantic emergency solutions

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for $1,203,650.

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it's quite an expensive fire truck, isn't it? Yes. And

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with that paying all in advance, we get a $206,118

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savings to bring it down to nine ninety seven, five hundred and thirty $2.

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um, that has gone up since I proposed a capital improvement budget of 950,000.

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working with ms. Hamilton so nicely helped me find the funds from other

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public safety projects to be able to fund that fully. And

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we're looking at a delivery time of 1,470 days.

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so we do the math four years, 10 days is what they have.

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so you see why we had to go and move everything into capital improvement with the tankers and the engine

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forward to anticipate that, to get stuff from the books early. So

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I wish I was gonna tell you that we were just purchasing a fire truck and it would roll in here and start

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doing business, but it's not, it's gonna be quite a while. We

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still have two others on order and this one will be a identical one

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to the two we have on order that we're supposed to go in september finally and do

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the, um, the pre-engineering where we sit down and go over every little

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inkling of it to make sure it's everything that we want. So we're still

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waiting to do pre-engineering on the first two that we ordered in 22. Is

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that right? 21, 22 give or take. Mm-hmm . So it's, uh,

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been a long process, but this will put us on track to replace

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the engine at the 1516 year mark. Keep us in

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line with our original plants, put that engine into reserve. We'll still have a good engine

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to be a reserve. And as we move forward and develop fire and

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ems, we'll always have a reserve fleet in place to make sure we have apparatus to respond

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to calls. So that's what's in front of you for this one?

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is that questions, comments?

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no. It's just the reality of the world we live in today. Yes sir. It sure is.

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mr. Chair, I make a motion that we accept the resolution as presented. We have a

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second. Second. Okay. We have

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a roll call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra

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bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting?

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aye. All right, thank you. And we'll move right

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along and let you keep standing right there. Um, contract

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award. Stryker stretchers? Yes,

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sir. This is for replacement stretchers through current stretchers that we have in our ambulance fleet.

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the, this will be a replacement to go in contract with stryker,

427
00:30:52,605 --> 00:30:56,485
which is the manufacturer and dealer of our power stretchers. Power stretchers

428
00:30:57,005 --> 00:31:00,965
work in the back of an ambulance to keep the paramedics from having to use a lot of their backs. Like

429
00:31:01,165 --> 00:31:04,965
we used to have to use with two or three people have to pick it up. This is actually a hydraulic

430
00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:09,405
stretcher that works off a dewalt battery. They push a button, the patient comes up, they go to

431
00:31:09,565 --> 00:31:13,325
the load system, can put it in and you only really need two paramedics to actually,

432
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:17,425
or paramedic emt to get the truck loaded and get on the way to the hospital. So

433
00:31:17,975 --> 00:31:21,965
these stretchers, um, the ones that we're replacing the three this year that we

434
00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:26,165
will be replacing are 12 years old. So you can imagine that's a lot of up and downs that

435
00:31:26,325 --> 00:31:30,085
these stretchers have done over their course and they've definitely served their time and earned their money.

436
00:31:30,545 --> 00:31:34,525
and then the stair chairs, which are smaller structures that actually fold up

437
00:31:34,725 --> 00:31:38,645
and go on the side door to ambulance, are made to get people downstairs on the back of it.

438
00:31:38,765 --> 00:31:42,605
they have a little set of treads, like tank treads and you actually pull

439
00:31:42,845 --> 00:31:46,625
that out and it actually will go down the steps like a little tank and get 'em to the bottom, put

440
00:31:46,925 --> 00:31:50,765
'em on the stretcher and that way also help with manpower so you don't have to kind of, you know, put

441
00:31:51,005 --> 00:31:54,435
'em in a regular chair. So those pieces of apparatus,

442
00:31:55,045 --> 00:31:58,845
the stair chairs that we currently have are 17 years old. They're not used as much,

443
00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:03,165
but they need to be updated to make sure that we don't, um, have any mishaps with

444
00:32:03,285 --> 00:32:06,885
maintenance and hurt somebody bringing 'em down just because they're starting to time out in age.

445
00:32:08,555 --> 00:32:12,085
also on this, um, contract purchase will be new equipment

446
00:32:12,585 --> 00:32:15,605
for the ambulance remount that will be coming to you next month.

447
00:32:16,795 --> 00:32:20,765
that is, um, another stretcher and another power load for the new ambulance that

448
00:32:21,005 --> 00:32:24,405
will bring every, all that will bring the whole fleet up to date with power stretchers.

449
00:32:25,435 --> 00:32:29,405
well, excuse me, not up to date. We'll bring 'em into where we have it in all the apparatus. That's

450
00:32:29,725 --> 00:32:33,625
what I'm trying to say. So that'll give us that ability to have that in all the apparatus. The

451
00:32:33,845 --> 00:32:37,195
total for that purchase is 210,000 938 93.

452
00:32:39,275 --> 00:32:43,165
that'll be coming out of two different sections of the budget. One for the,

453
00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:47,125
the, the actual striker, um, stretcher replacement

454
00:32:47,755 --> 00:32:51,745
that we had allocated in the budget, in the operating budget. And then the, the

455
00:32:51,965 --> 00:32:55,845
other part of that, the striker stretcher and the power load will come out of the remount

456
00:32:56,585 --> 00:33:00,445
out of the, um, I guess capital operating. Is that where that came out of? Yeah, the new

457
00:33:00,605 --> 00:33:04,465
capital operating budget. So we put all items together just to,

458
00:33:04,865 --> 00:33:08,805
to um, get that on one contract and it also comes with

459
00:33:09,105 --> 00:33:13,085
one year of, um, maintenance, first year of

460
00:33:13,285 --> 00:33:15,155
maintenance as part of that too. Okay.

461
00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:18,885
any questions, comments?

462
00:33:23,035 --> 00:33:24,565
alright. What's the pledge of the board?

463
00:33:28,035 --> 00:33:31,665
I'll make the motion that we approve it as presented. Do we have a second? Second.

464
00:33:33,065 --> 00:33:36,585
do we have a roll call please? Dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis?

465
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:40,345
aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee?

466
00:33:41,345 --> 00:33:44,125
aye. All voting? Aye. Alright. Thank you chief. Thank you. Thank you chief.

467
00:33:46,515 --> 00:33:49,405
alright. Contract award block cameras.

468
00:33:51,135 --> 00:33:54,885
major not mr. Chairman, as he's making his way to the, uh, podium,

469
00:33:55,405 --> 00:33:59,165
I have a conflict statement I need to read at today's meeting. I intend to abstain

470
00:33:59,525 --> 00:34:03,445
from boats concerning item seven c, contract award, flock cameras, and seven

471
00:34:03,925 --> 00:34:07,685
d contract award. Seven police intercept utility vehicles. Each of these items pertain

472
00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:11,685
to the dee county sheriff's office. I'm employed by de county sheriff's office.

473
00:34:13,695 --> 00:34:17,375
thank you, sir. Yep. Uh, mr. Cha, mr. Chairman, members board

474
00:34:17,745 --> 00:34:21,405
mr. Mass mcgill, I come before you today, uh, on behalf of sheriff

475
00:34:21,815 --> 00:34:25,185
adams, uh, on this particular matter to talk about, uh,

476
00:34:25,985 --> 00:34:29,665
the flock, uh, license plate recognition cameras that we have throughout the

477
00:34:30,225 --> 00:34:32,605
county. Uh, back in december of 2022,

478
00:34:34,345 --> 00:34:38,075
uh, we found some funding through the virginia state police heat

479
00:34:38,365 --> 00:34:42,095
program to purchase, uh, some of these flock, uh, license plate

480
00:34:42,555 --> 00:34:46,365
recognition cameras, uh, stationary cameras placed throughout the county,

481
00:34:47,225 --> 00:34:50,865
uh, that, uh, read vehicle, uh, vehicle license plates

482
00:34:51,305 --> 00:34:55,045
as they go by. Uh, it has been a a great investigative

483
00:34:55,365 --> 00:34:59,225
tool for the sheriff's office on a number of different levels. Uh,

484
00:34:59,455 --> 00:35:03,385
since we implemented this back in 2022, uh, we

485
00:35:04,045 --> 00:35:07,775
expanded the program from four cameras up to nine cameras again

486
00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:11,525
each year, uh, with funding from the state police heat program.

487
00:35:12,665 --> 00:35:16,625
um, we have the opportunity this year to, to, uh,

488
00:35:16,945 --> 00:35:20,735
expand that again, uh, even more. Uh, the, there

489
00:35:21,085 --> 00:35:24,895
was an original contract, uh, cooperative contract with omnia

490
00:35:25,245 --> 00:35:28,945
partners, uh, used to procure the cameras, uh, that ex uh,

491
00:35:29,705 --> 00:35:33,535
uh, and that has expired. And, and we are hoping to enter

492
00:35:33,885 --> 00:35:37,885
into a new contract with that same, uh, omnia partners,

493
00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:41,925
uh, flock safety to add these, uh, additional cameras.

494
00:35:42,945 --> 00:35:46,825
uh, $9,999, uh, to

495
00:35:47,565 --> 00:35:51,485
purchase three more cameras. Again, once we, uh, we are using that money

496
00:35:51,685 --> 00:35:55,445
from our operating budget to be, uh, reimbursed by the state police

497
00:35:55,725 --> 00:35:59,555
heat program. They've already, uh, agreed to do that. Um, once

498
00:35:59,845 --> 00:36:03,665
we get the cameras in place, we ask

499
00:36:03,885 --> 00:36:07,505
them that you, uh, uh, approve this, uh, uh,

500
00:36:08,285 --> 00:36:11,435
resolution, uh, to add these cameras. Okay.

501
00:36:13,645 --> 00:36:16,795
questions, comments from anyone? Alright.

502
00:36:20,225 --> 00:36:24,085
mr. Chair, I make a motion that we accept the resolution as presented. Do we have a second?

503
00:36:24,505 --> 00:36:28,465
second. Alright, could we have a roll call please? Dr. Moore? Aye.

504
00:36:28,785 --> 00:36:32,395
mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner aye. Mr. Dooley abstain.

505
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:36,965
mr. Lee? Aye. Four eyes. One abstain. Alright, thank you.

506
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:41,305
um, and we'll move on to,

507
00:36:42,025 --> 00:36:45,435
uh, contract award seven police interceptor utility

508
00:36:46,085 --> 00:36:49,665
vehicles. Uh, mr. Chairman, uh, on this, uh,

509
00:36:50,145 --> 00:36:53,685
uh, particular item, uh, back the board

510
00:36:54,165 --> 00:36:58,065
approved, uh, $578,000 to purchase, uh,

511
00:36:58,345 --> 00:37:02,125
new law enforcement vehicles. Uh, six of those I believe, to replace,

512
00:37:02,945 --> 00:37:06,725
uh, aging, uh, uh, vehicles that need to come out of the fleet

513
00:37:07,265 --> 00:37:10,955
in an additional five, uh, for the traffic unit,

514
00:37:11,465 --> 00:37:15,405
uh, to support those, uh, officers as we, as we hire them.

515
00:37:16,385 --> 00:37:20,365
um, talked to shehe ford and, and as always, vehicles

516
00:37:20,925 --> 00:37:24,885
are a little hard to come by. Um, it has gotten better than what it was some

517
00:37:25,085 --> 00:37:29,085
years ago, but it's still a little bit difficult. Uh, did speak with

518
00:37:29,325 --> 00:37:33,125
them. Uh, I have, I got a quote for seven, uh, of those vehicles.

519
00:37:34,065 --> 00:37:37,925
um, the, uh, total for the seven was $307,256

520
00:37:40,585 --> 00:37:44,405
and 20 cents. Uh, that's, uh, one of those on the lot

521
00:37:44,605 --> 00:37:48,505
right now. Uh, the other six to be coming in, uh,

522
00:37:48,835 --> 00:37:52,625
shortly there, there have either been built or being built and

523
00:37:52,845 --> 00:37:56,685
being delivered to uh, uh, sheehy. And at this point we have,

524
00:37:57,145 --> 00:38:00,555
uh, our name on those so we can take delivery depending

525
00:38:01,165 --> 00:38:05,045
on the day's, uh, approval of this, uh, being able to take delivery as soon

526
00:38:05,205 --> 00:38:09,125
as they arrive on scene. Uh, we are asking that you, uh, support this,

527
00:38:09,325 --> 00:38:12,605
uh, resolution to purchase these seven vehicles for the sheriff's office.

528
00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:18,745
I'm doing some arithmetic bracelets, right? Minutes per vehicle.

529
00:38:19,635 --> 00:38:23,265
43. It's, it is, uh, the, uh, it's

530
00:38:24,365 --> 00:38:27,685
of these vehicles. There's one that's, uh, unmarked, uh,

531
00:38:29,325 --> 00:38:32,815
gray vehicle opposed to the other white. Uh, two of those,

532
00:38:33,715 --> 00:38:37,645
uh, had been ordered with I spotlights, but they are adding the spotlights

533
00:38:38,225 --> 00:38:41,875
to them. So we have to then others, the, the other four,

534
00:38:42,825 --> 00:38:46,675
um, already have the spotlights and everything fully equipped with all the, with

535
00:38:46,965 --> 00:38:50,865
that. Uh, um, and so each, it was three different quotes,

536
00:38:51,865 --> 00:38:55,805
um, but all within several hundred dollars of each and that 43

537
00:38:56,945 --> 00:38:59,035
in some change range. Okay.

538
00:39:01,345 --> 00:39:05,325
any other questions? Comments? Alright. What's your pleasure?

539
00:39:06,085 --> 00:39:09,925
I make a motion we pass it as presented. Second. Have a second.

540
00:39:10,185 --> 00:39:13,425
second. Can we add a roll call please? Dr. Moore?

541
00:39:14,225 --> 00:39:18,155
aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley abstain.

542
00:39:18,825 --> 00:39:22,605
mr. Lee? Aye. Four I's one abstain. And just for your information, these

543
00:39:22,845 --> 00:39:26,305
were the last of the 2025 models that we could get our hands on.

544
00:39:26,905 --> 00:39:30,525
wow. Uh, the others we'll have to have to look at the pricing on the 2026

545
00:39:31,525 --> 00:39:35,255
models, but this was a good job last of the 20 fives.

546
00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:40,555
thank you, william. Thank you. Thank you major. Alright,

547
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,965
moving right along. Contract award financial advisor,

548
00:39:45,145 --> 00:39:48,455
uh, and hamilton. Good afternoon board. Mr. Massengale,

549
00:39:49,865 --> 00:39:53,725
as you know, we periodically have a need for, um, outside financial

550
00:39:54,565 --> 00:39:58,405
advisory services, um, particularly to do some forecasting and

551
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:02,245
strategies for our cip and to help us with our bond rating,

552
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:06,985
um, reviews that we go through, um,

553
00:40:07,205 --> 00:40:10,965
that have gotten increasingly more like a job interview these days.

554
00:40:11,715 --> 00:40:15,395
amen. Um, we have been under contract with davenport

555
00:40:16,255 --> 00:40:20,205
since 2015. That contract has expired. So we put out

556
00:40:20,365 --> 00:40:23,475
an rfp for financial services, um, in june

557
00:40:24,545 --> 00:40:28,445
and we had three vendors submit proposals. We have reviewed

558
00:40:28,645 --> 00:40:32,505
those and we con the committee con concluded that, uh,

559
00:40:32,755 --> 00:40:36,515
davenport was still our best fit, this best overall

560
00:40:37,105 --> 00:40:40,715
fit for what we need. Um, it's not something

561
00:40:41,325 --> 00:40:45,285
we need every day. We just have, we pay them on a as needed basis.

562
00:40:47,065 --> 00:40:50,525
so we are asking for approval of the contract

563
00:40:51,975 --> 00:40:55,825
with davenport. Alright. My only comment,

564
00:40:56,385 --> 00:41:00,295
I think, um, they've done a good company to work with and, and when

565
00:41:00,585 --> 00:41:04,365
they come to do a report, um, they do a good job. Mm-hmm. It,

566
00:41:04,645 --> 00:41:08,545
it helps me understand how they present it and so I

567
00:41:08,665 --> 00:41:12,625
think they've helped us save some money over the years. They, they do have a good way

568
00:41:12,825 --> 00:41:16,345
of putting it in plain language, the whole debt service

569
00:41:16,925 --> 00:41:19,515
and mm-hmm. Strategic plan using

570
00:41:21,445 --> 00:41:25,205
how you replace the, replace the debt mm-hmm . Coming

571
00:41:25,685 --> 00:41:29,605
off and coming on and right. They, they do a good job of, in

572
00:41:29,825 --> 00:41:32,105
layman's terms, explaining all that, I think. Mm-hmm .

573
00:41:33,835 --> 00:41:37,525
alright. Any other comments just to comment? Just, I mean, I think davenport

574
00:41:38,125 --> 00:41:42,065
has done an excellent job since we have been members of the board of supervisors. Um,

575
00:41:42,285 --> 00:41:46,005
everything that we have asked them for, um, has been presented

576
00:41:46,405 --> 00:41:50,295
to us in a very professional manner. Um, they've done a very good job of explaining

577
00:41:51,185 --> 00:41:54,765
our options as from staff as well as for us as board members.

578
00:41:55,585 --> 00:41:58,385
and, uh, they've been very punctual in giving us,

579
00:41:59,705 --> 00:42:03,545
um, their advice, uh, of us making decisions. So I I'm

580
00:42:03,765 --> 00:42:04,685
very appreciative of davenport.

581
00:42:07,915 --> 00:42:10,525
alright. What's, what's the pleasure of the board?

582
00:42:12,385 --> 00:42:15,245
um, I make a motion that we approve, um, as presented.

583
00:42:17,075 --> 00:42:20,875
alright. Do we have a second? Second, uh, roll

584
00:42:21,165 --> 00:42:25,005
call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra

585
00:42:25,285 --> 00:42:29,245
bonner. Aye. Mr. Doley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting?

586
00:42:29,625 --> 00:42:33,165
aye aye. Moving along to approval of manufacturer

587
00:42:34,505 --> 00:42:37,395
opioid settlement. Mr. Sofa,

588
00:42:41,945 --> 00:42:45,925
you got a big book mr. Chairman? I'm gonna stretch my legs and come over here to the stand today.

589
00:42:46,345 --> 00:42:50,245
it is a big book , um, book. Alright, so

590
00:42:50,445 --> 00:42:54,085
as you know on the, the first one here is the manufacturer opioid settlement.

591
00:42:55,105 --> 00:42:59,045
as you know, several years ago we filed a lawsuit against retailers, distributors, and

592
00:42:59,205 --> 00:43:02,835
pharmaceutical benefits managers alleging that those entities caused harm

593
00:43:03,345 --> 00:43:07,145
to denwitty county by furthering or, uh, fueling the, uh, opioid

594
00:43:08,805 --> 00:43:12,745
epidemic. There have been a number of settlements to date that have come through the board. Those include kroger,

595
00:43:13,165 --> 00:43:16,885
janssen, walmart, walgreens, cvs, tiva allergen and distributors.

596
00:43:17,985 --> 00:43:21,935
and so there's presently an opportunity to accept a settlement agreement with eight

597
00:43:22,285 --> 00:43:25,995
manufacturers. I'll get to the purdue in a minute, but this, this

598
00:43:26,315 --> 00:43:29,995
memo is to talk about the eight manufacturers, algen, amne,

599
00:43:30,825 --> 00:43:34,135
apotex hickma in dvor, milan,

600
00:43:34,905 --> 00:43:38,805
sun and du. Um, then when he's direct share of the

601
00:43:38,925 --> 00:43:42,885
settlement, after attorney's fees may up to about $12,000, although

602
00:43:43,005 --> 00:43:47,005
the money is to be received over time, several of the companies wanted to pay up

603
00:43:47,205 --> 00:43:51,165
front. I think there were several of 'em who wanted to pay out over time. The longest amount of time

604
00:43:51,285 --> 00:43:55,285
that a company wanted to pay was 10 years. So it'll be a, a fair amount of money

605
00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:59,405
up front and then the rest of it will trickle in. Um, and then

606
00:43:59,525 --> 00:44:03,525
that could be, could be end up being less or more. The settlement will also make,

607
00:44:04,025 --> 00:44:07,905
um, money available through the virginia opioid abatement authority. And

608
00:44:08,125 --> 00:44:12,025
because the county participates in the virginia opioid abatement authorities gold standard program, the

609
00:44:12,245 --> 00:44:16,015
funds received from the settlements, um, will need to be used for opioid mitigation.

610
00:44:17,065 --> 00:44:20,745
so our outside counsel has advised the board to,

611
00:44:21,625 --> 00:44:25,405
uh, approve the resolution to, to enter into the settlement with the manufacturers.

612
00:44:26,985 --> 00:44:30,765
I'm happy to, to answer any questions that you may have or to try to,

613
00:44:33,665 --> 00:44:37,165
any questions? No. Um, when this money

614
00:44:38,095 --> 00:44:41,325
comes to us, we, we have to

615
00:44:42,515 --> 00:44:46,275
keep it separate and then move it to things that deal

616
00:44:46,635 --> 00:44:50,505
with opioid. So that's correct. And

617
00:44:50,725 --> 00:44:54,725
ms. Howerton does account for it when it comes in that it's, it's kind of earmarked

618
00:44:55,325 --> 00:44:58,305
that that's what it's supposed to be used for. So, so, yes. And, and

619
00:44:59,585 --> 00:45:03,525
you know, so to the extent that you have special ideas to address the opioid epidemic, there

620
00:45:03,845 --> 00:45:07,405
is a pot of money that is, is right here and that's called the direct

621
00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:12,085
distribution to deal with that. We also have a pot of money that, that lives in richmond that

622
00:45:12,285 --> 00:45:16,115
we can ask for with the opioid abatement authority. And there's also a pot of money that

623
00:45:16,405 --> 00:45:20,125
we can apply for regional cooperative projects that's with the opioid abatement authority

624
00:45:20,905 --> 00:45:24,725
and then by subscribing to the gold standard, we get an additional bonus amount of money.

625
00:45:25,875 --> 00:45:29,705
okay. So, um,

626
00:45:30,305 --> 00:45:34,285
yes. Alright. Anybody what's

627
00:45:34,705 --> 00:45:38,685
the pleasure mr. Chair? I make a motion that we, uh, accept the, and

628
00:45:38,905 --> 00:45:42,455
approve this settlement as presented. Second. Alright,

629
00:45:43,165 --> 00:45:47,045
we have a motion and second roll call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr.

630
00:45:47,325 --> 00:45:50,925
chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee?

631
00:45:51,765 --> 00:45:55,605
aye. All voting? Aye. Alright, thank you. And now we

632
00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:59,645
keep on to um, g approval of purdue

633
00:46:00,525 --> 00:46:03,835
formal bankruptcy plan and opioid settlement

634
00:46:04,615 --> 00:46:08,525
with the slack lower family. That's

635
00:46:08,945 --> 00:46:12,705
right. So this one deals with purdue pharma and purdue pharma

636
00:46:13,165 --> 00:46:17,105
was probably the, you know, if there was one company that was associated more than any

637
00:46:17,265 --> 00:46:21,085
other with the opioid epidemic, it was probably purdue pharma. Um,

638
00:46:21,305 --> 00:46:25,045
and if, if you watch the news over the past 10 years, um,

639
00:46:25,605 --> 00:46:29,565
so again, several years ago the lawsuit was filed. Um,

640
00:46:29,785 --> 00:46:33,585
there have been the settlements to date. So there's presently an opportunity to vote

641
00:46:34,005 --> 00:46:37,985
on, and this is kind of a two part resolution. One part of it is the purdue c

642
00:46:38,105 --> 00:46:41,775
corporate bankruptcy. Um, our outside counsel has recommended

643
00:46:42,465 --> 00:46:46,465
that we vote to approve that as a creditor, um, as as the

644
00:46:46,585 --> 00:46:49,805
county. The second, um, is, is

645
00:46:51,015 --> 00:46:54,845
with the sackler family itself. The sackler family has

646
00:46:55,465 --> 00:46:58,945
considerable wealth and they were defendants and, and the lawsuits.

647
00:46:59,685 --> 00:47:03,305
and they have agreed to pay 6.5 billion with a b

648
00:47:03,935 --> 00:47:07,835
dollars to resolve their, their, um, their

649
00:47:08,185 --> 00:47:12,025
litigation against, against the, the folks that they're settling with here.

650
00:47:13,005 --> 00:47:16,675
um, they actually had a, they, they did something interesting with a, a bankruptcy

651
00:47:17,345 --> 00:47:20,985
proceeding and tried to wash the family liability and the bankruptcy

652
00:47:21,465 --> 00:47:25,465
proceeding. And there was a us supreme court case that said that that wasn't permitted. And so it kind

653
00:47:25,585 --> 00:47:29,565
of went back to the drawing board. And so now there's, there's a, a second more favorable

654
00:47:30,085 --> 00:47:33,965
settlement, um, with the sackler family as well

655
00:47:34,165 --> 00:47:38,165
as, as well as a, a bankruptcy that needs to be approved. And so

656
00:47:38,385 --> 00:47:41,795
our, our outside counsel has recommended that the board vote

657
00:47:42,425 --> 00:47:45,865
to, uh, approve the, the bankruptcy and

658
00:47:46,435 --> 00:47:49,965
vote to approve the settlement with the sackler family.

659
00:47:51,065 --> 00:47:55,045
um, this actually is estimated to result in a more of a

660
00:47:55,165 --> 00:47:59,165
payment than the, the previous settlement discussed here. I

661
00:47:59,285 --> 00:48:02,765
think then when he's direct share, you're talking about an amount up to something like $77,812.

662
00:48:06,625 --> 00:48:10,605
um, and, and some these settlements are all fairly complicated and some of them depend

663
00:48:11,005 --> 00:48:14,905
on how many jurisdictions participate in each state. So these numbers are not, are

664
00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:18,955
not set in stone, but the, the, the number, the number there that

665
00:48:19,285 --> 00:48:23,285
I calculated it could go up to is about 77,812. Now that amount

666
00:48:23,655 --> 00:48:27,425
would be received over 15 years, so you'd buy that by 15 and

667
00:48:27,985 --> 00:48:31,795
you know, it's, it's some money to do something with, but it's, it's,

668
00:48:32,105 --> 00:48:36,025
um, it's spread out. So I'm happy to try to answer any

669
00:48:36,405 --> 00:48:38,865
questions for this one. Um, and

670
00:48:41,065 --> 00:48:44,785
you have the resolution for you as well. Alright. Questions or

671
00:48:45,165 --> 00:48:48,365
comments? Alright, what's the pleasure

672
00:48:50,785 --> 00:48:53,765
mr. Chairman? I think the motion that we approve the resolution as presented.

673
00:48:55,025 --> 00:48:55,445
second. Second

674
00:49:00,725 --> 00:49:04,495
deal was got second. Oh, second did you say second? I said second.

675
00:49:05,645 --> 00:49:09,595
okay. . I, I came here very good but I never heard a second. So,

676
00:49:10,875 --> 00:49:14,515
um, roll call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis?

677
00:49:15,115 --> 00:49:18,955
aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All

678
00:49:19,175 --> 00:49:21,565
voting? Aye I. Alright.

679
00:49:24,555 --> 00:49:28,495
is that it? Title it is mr. Chairman and I will let our

680
00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:32,495
outside counsel know that you have approved these two resolutions and they will set the

681
00:49:32,855 --> 00:49:36,745
mechanics into motion, which are rather complex to effectuate everything,

682
00:49:37,675 --> 00:49:41,535
the settlements and the bankruptcy votes. And that's why we got

683
00:49:41,755 --> 00:49:45,495
you . Thank you tyler. Thank you. And your big book

684
00:49:46,335 --> 00:49:50,315
. Alright, I got h and

685
00:49:50,535 --> 00:49:53,315
we're got h gonna move to h now, um, chief kna

686
00:50:01,605 --> 00:50:04,905
and I think we got a hand note for this one. We do. It's it's on your,

687
00:50:05,805 --> 00:50:06,575
at your place. Alright.

688
00:50:10,135 --> 00:50:14,105
alright. Good afternoon again. In front of you is is one of

689
00:50:14,305 --> 00:50:18,305
the two fire and ems vehicles that we had in the fiscal year 26 operating

690
00:50:18,865 --> 00:50:22,865
budget. This is a chevrolet tahoe, um, being purchased

691
00:50:23,655 --> 00:50:27,405
from rk chevrolet. 58,544 and 48 cent.

692
00:50:28,715 --> 00:50:32,685
it's a tahoe ssv which is made for um, public safety edition.

693
00:50:33,165 --> 00:50:37,085
it doesn't have some of the options that a typical civilian vehicle would have. It doesn't have the third row seats

694
00:50:37,745 --> 00:50:41,225
and they've taken out some things. It's not the police pursuit one

695
00:50:41,795 --> 00:50:45,595
that would've been a nice one to get obviously. But we're not chasing criminals so we don't need that. This

696
00:50:45,885 --> 00:50:48,925
is more of a fire administration, public, um, administration vehicle.

697
00:50:50,195 --> 00:50:54,135
this, um, kinda had to be rushed to the front. They only had one left. And kinda

698
00:50:54,485 --> 00:50:58,485
like the fire trucks, if you don't grab it and get it, it'll be gone. So by the time I come back up here,

699
00:50:58,605 --> 00:51:02,405
it won't be there. So, um, we're still looking for one more vehicle, so I'll

700
00:51:02,645 --> 00:51:06,525
be coming back up here for the other one. One. We found that one, but that's a, uh, pickup

701
00:51:06,655 --> 00:51:10,585
truck. So in front of you is just the consideration to

702
00:51:10,805 --> 00:51:14,035
approve the contract to purchase the $58,000 $544

703
00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:16,335
and 48 cents tahoe

704
00:51:21,005 --> 00:51:24,605
question? Nope. No, we need them.

705
00:51:25,065 --> 00:51:28,775
that's all. I absolutely get it. Where you can get it mr. Chair,

706
00:51:29,125 --> 00:51:33,065
I'll make a reso. Make a motion. We accept the resolution as presented. Alright, do

707
00:51:33,285 --> 00:51:37,145
we have a second? Second. Alright, roll call please. Dr. Moore.

708
00:51:38,025 --> 00:51:41,505
aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley?

709
00:51:42,065 --> 00:51:46,015
aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

710
00:51:46,365 --> 00:51:49,595
you chief. Thank you chief. Okay,

711
00:51:50,445 --> 00:51:54,345
I think we've moved on along to citizen comment. Do

712
00:51:54,565 --> 00:51:58,355
we have anyone signed up for citizen comment? Yes. Mr. Chairman, we have dorothy graves.

713
00:52:00,395 --> 00:52:00,395
alright,

714
00:52:04,915 --> 00:52:08,365
good evening, denwoody county board of supervisor. Good evening. Good evening.

715
00:52:08,985 --> 00:52:12,725
it is more than a pleasure to be here since denwoody county is my favorite county

716
00:52:13,185 --> 00:52:17,075
in the world. . Thank you. All the places I've ever lived, there's

717
00:52:17,565 --> 00:52:20,955
no place like river road in sutherland, virginia. Amen.

718
00:52:21,875 --> 00:52:25,845
there's no county like woody, where my son graduated, number seven in his class,

719
00:52:26,915 --> 00:52:30,725
went on to become a united states marine, retired from the marines and went on, became

720
00:52:31,005 --> 00:52:35,005
an educated, now retired from teacher. So thank you then whitie for all you did for

721
00:52:35,165 --> 00:52:39,085
my family. Amen. I am here on behalf of the dwi e lives

722
00:52:39,355 --> 00:52:43,125
club. Evelyn, the late evelyn lee over 27

723
00:52:43,645 --> 00:52:47,125
years ago had a big idea that dwi county needs the alliances club

724
00:52:47,825 --> 00:52:51,805
and the lady really served the county well, but she changed all of

725
00:52:51,965 --> 00:52:55,905
us to serve. So my purpose for being here today is

726
00:52:56,125 --> 00:53:00,005
to bring your attention to us. What, what do we do in the county? Just what

727
00:53:00,245 --> 00:53:03,705
I said. We serve, what have we done for 24? 23?

728
00:53:04,485 --> 00:53:08,475
24? During 2324, we have supplied several

729
00:53:09,325 --> 00:53:12,845
families with eyeglasses 'cause they could not afford 'em. We have supplied

730
00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:18,505
five, $500 book scholarship to graduating seniors from

731
00:53:18,995 --> 00:53:22,915
denwoody county high school and the scholarships of the evelyn needs memorial scholarship.

732
00:53:24,455 --> 00:53:28,235
and that was done just this past spring for the kids who just started into

733
00:53:28,525 --> 00:53:32,285
college. We with the denwoody,

734
00:53:32,865 --> 00:53:36,505
the, the lyons international foundation is reaching out now

735
00:53:36,905 --> 00:53:40,165
to denwoody county to assist with flood victims in petersburg,

736
00:53:41,005 --> 00:53:44,685
virginia. There are four families. We're working through the petersburg social service department.

737
00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:49,375
'cause there is no lion's club in petersburg, virginia. That's right. Other

738
00:53:49,725 --> 00:53:53,325
things that we do that you may not be aware of. We serve by working with veterans.

739
00:53:53,825 --> 00:53:57,805
we serve, uh, by working in the communities we serve by working with the food banks.

740
00:53:58,865 --> 00:54:02,805
so my, my plea to use today to help us, we need

741
00:54:03,005 --> 00:54:04,405
you to help us on friday, september 26th, 2025,

742
00:54:07,145 --> 00:54:09,445
6:30 pm we will be celebrating

743
00:54:11,255 --> 00:54:14,995
25 years plus to the of service

744
00:54:15,375 --> 00:54:19,075
to the citizens of denver witty county at the olive branch baptist church fellowship

745
00:54:19,785 --> 00:54:23,355
hall on boarding plant road backward.

746
00:54:24,155 --> 00:54:28,155
I have here courtesy tickets for board members. We would love if you made the

747
00:54:28,315 --> 00:54:32,305
donation, but if not, we still want you to try to be present. And mr. Chairman, we'd

748
00:54:32,595 --> 00:54:35,305
like for you to come and welcome our guests to our affairs.

749
00:54:36,855 --> 00:54:39,355
are there any questions about the dunwoodie county lines club?

750
00:54:41,825 --> 00:54:45,795
okay. Any questions? No, but I'll make some comments in my comments. Okay. Cool.

751
00:54:46,025 --> 00:54:49,995
good. Mm-hmm . Will you please put these in

752
00:54:50,195 --> 00:54:53,195
your district that you represent? Dr. Moore has already served his district.

753
00:54:55,295 --> 00:54:59,235
ms. Pass that way. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And any comments

754
00:54:59,465 --> 00:55:02,855
that board members we make, we're gonna make comments, um,

755
00:55:04,575 --> 00:55:08,225
at a little bit later. So, um, we'd like to do that then.

756
00:55:08,775 --> 00:55:10,395
so. Okay. Thank you.

757
00:55:13,925 --> 00:55:15,875
don't think you get away, .

758
00:55:51,375 --> 00:55:53,315
we appreciate you have little publicity here.

759
00:55:57,325 --> 00:56:01,265
thank you, mr. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. Introduce

760
00:56:01,875 --> 00:56:05,835
your partner in crime. Oh yeah, I know her. That's why I didn't introduce her.

761
00:56:05,995 --> 00:56:08,395
that's right. . This, this is my secretary.

762
00:56:10,025 --> 00:56:13,875
geraldine chrysler george. That's right. Good seeing you.

763
00:56:14,035 --> 00:56:17,895
good seeing you. Well, thank y'all so much for, uh, and

764
00:56:18,125 --> 00:56:22,015
presenting to us today and I'll go check my schedule and, and,

765
00:56:22,335 --> 00:56:25,545
uh, hopefully I'm, I'm free then. So,

766
00:56:26,585 --> 00:56:30,425
so you say I can put your name on the program you,

767
00:56:30,745 --> 00:56:34,665
you can speak with me. That's, uh, is

768
00:56:34,885 --> 00:56:37,995
anyone else signed up, mr. Chairman? We have no one else signed up. Alright,

769
00:56:39,985 --> 00:56:43,595
go ahead and, uh, close the public. Um, comment, citizen

770
00:56:44,085 --> 00:56:47,805
comment, period. And now we'll have county administration.

771
00:56:49,395 --> 00:56:53,325
yeah. Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Um, first I

772
00:56:53,445 --> 00:56:57,405
just wanted to thank you to thank you guys for the young ladies

773
00:56:57,605 --> 00:57:01,465
that came from the lions club here. Um, you

774
00:57:01,685 --> 00:57:05,645
know, 20 drive down the yellow brick road , 25 years.

775
00:57:06,625 --> 00:57:10,525
that's, that's an amazing milestone. Thank you. And thank, thank you so much for

776
00:57:10,725 --> 00:57:14,725
what y'all have been doing and I know many years continued service. So thank you

777
00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:18,725
so much. Um, mr. Chairman and members of board week, we spent

778
00:57:18,885 --> 00:57:22,825
a lot of money today and you can see it all in this book. So

779
00:57:23,155 --> 00:57:26,705
it's like ann hamilton actually handed out our, our, um,

780
00:57:28,355 --> 00:57:32,285
full budget book, which is the easiest way to, to understand where the

781
00:57:32,445 --> 00:57:36,245
county finances go. Mm-hmm . Um, which I'm so glad we're able to get this, this

782
00:57:36,525 --> 00:57:40,065
to the board. And of course we have copies of this online as well as

783
00:57:40,805 --> 00:57:44,685
upstairs, but it's a, it's a great, great reading and thank you for, for providing

784
00:57:45,205 --> 00:57:49,165
that. Um, I just had quite a few administrative housekeeping type dates

785
00:57:49,545 --> 00:57:53,425
and I know mr. Lee's gonna talk about the town hall meetings. Um, so I'm,

786
00:57:53,725 --> 00:57:56,805
I will briefly kind of go through those. But just a couple things to hit

787
00:57:58,195 --> 00:58:00,345
this week. Thursday, um, august 21st,

788
00:58:02,385 --> 00:58:06,365
ms. Chairman, you and I have a civilian military council meeting at the, um, defense

789
00:58:06,845 --> 00:58:10,615
supply center in richmond. So that's, uh, that's thursday, later

790
00:58:11,445 --> 00:58:15,145
thursday afternoon at four 30 at st. Paul's

791
00:58:16,055 --> 00:58:19,805
event center in brunswick county. Virginia's gateway region is having

792
00:58:20,325 --> 00:58:23,285
a, um, a service there for our new localities.

793
00:58:24,465 --> 00:58:28,285
so it's a reception for them. So the new new localities for virginia's

794
00:58:28,525 --> 00:58:32,405
gateway region is greensville and emporia and brunswick have been

795
00:58:32,725 --> 00:58:36,045
added to that footprint. So they, they tell me they have ice cream.

796
00:58:37,425 --> 00:58:41,245
that's, I know that's dr. Moore's weakness, but so again,

797
00:58:41,485 --> 00:58:45,405
four 30 to five 30 at st. Paul's event center in brunswick county.

798
00:58:46,305 --> 00:58:49,845
uh, friday we have the fire recruit school

799
00:58:50,415 --> 00:58:53,915
graduation, just as a reminder for that mount pleasant baptist

800
00:58:54,505 --> 00:58:58,265
church. Um, um, again, august 22nd, friday

801
00:58:59,635 --> 00:59:03,565
next week, just wanna give you a heads up that the management team, and y'all are

802
00:59:04,395 --> 00:59:08,305
welcome all three days or at any point during the three days, but we are,

803
00:59:09,225 --> 00:59:13,045
uh, going to the petersburg library and for the 27th, 28th

804
00:59:13,705 --> 00:59:17,685
and 29th, uh, you know, we had this year of perfect vision

805
00:59:18,105 --> 00:59:21,705
in 2020 where we started doing a little strategic planning. You all,

806
00:59:22,265 --> 00:59:26,165
um, decided to add three more core values to our original three

807
00:59:26,405 --> 00:59:30,245
core values. And that's when we figured out, if you arranged them, you could spell the word

808
00:59:30,425 --> 00:59:34,255
strive. We've never really, um, trained on these, these

809
00:59:34,605 --> 00:59:38,545
values. And so that's a, a fundamental of our management team is

810
00:59:38,765 --> 00:59:42,565
to understand these core values. So we're, we're gonna be teaching and training

811
00:59:42,905 --> 00:59:45,925
and working together on that. So again, 27th, 28th, 29th,

812
00:59:47,225 --> 00:59:50,985
the management team will be there. Constitutional officers as well, um,

813
00:59:51,265 --> 00:59:55,125
are also invited. Uh, september is the,

814
00:59:57,145 --> 01:00:01,045
the month of town hall meetings. I think marie's gonna kill us during this month,

815
01:00:01,225 --> 01:00:05,165
but we've got, we got a lot of work. So, uh, first we're gonna start off with the board

816
01:00:05,605 --> 01:00:09,585
workshop. That workshop is at 4:00 pm on our normal date agenda

817
01:00:10,035 --> 01:00:13,865
will come out about what we're gonna talk about, um, thur, uh,

818
01:00:14,365 --> 01:00:18,365
thursday the fourth is the first brenda, even bonner. Uh, that's gonna be at edgehill church

819
01:00:18,685 --> 01:00:22,325
of christ. All these from six to seven 30. Uh, monday

820
01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:26,405
the eighth, mr. Chavis at richard bland at the academic innovation center.

821
01:00:27,435 --> 01:00:30,685
wednesday the 10th, dan lee, and that's at ragsdale.

822
01:00:31,835 --> 01:00:35,705
then, uh, the 17th is mr. Lee again, uh,

823
01:00:35,925 --> 01:00:39,485
at olive branch baptist church. And then monday the 22nd,

824
01:00:40,105 --> 01:00:44,085
we have mr. Dooley. And you're gonna, we're gonna be in darville at the ton club,

825
01:00:45,145 --> 01:00:48,925
um, on the 29th. Mr. Chairman, you and I have mayors and chairs,

826
01:00:50,105 --> 01:00:53,525
and that's gonna also be in the city of petersburg, uh, that meeting.

827
01:00:54,465 --> 01:00:58,245
and then october, uh, sixth, there's mark moore's. And that we're

828
01:00:58,565 --> 01:01:02,265
gonna do that at west end baptist church for that. Um,

829
01:01:02,795 --> 01:01:06,685
just a couple other items real quick. First, you know, the new

830
01:01:06,875 --> 01:01:10,845
seal that we adopted and, um, 'cause you can see that on some of the

831
01:01:10,925 --> 01:01:14,685
letterhead and whatnot. We had indicated when we adopted that seal that this

832
01:01:14,965 --> 01:01:18,885
wasn't going to be, um, I mean, ob obviously it's official, but we

833
01:01:19,005 --> 01:01:22,885
weren't gonna replace certain things and until the point that it came

834
01:01:23,085 --> 01:01:26,945
available to be replaced. So, chief kissner, for your, all

835
01:01:27,165 --> 01:01:31,125
your fire apparatus, you know, we should look at that new seal, uh, to the sheriff's

836
01:01:31,525 --> 01:01:35,285
office that's here. We'll communicate that back to the sheriff. All of our new vehicles should adopt that new seal,

837
01:01:35,665 --> 01:01:39,545
not the older seal. But one of the things that ms. Howerton, um,

838
01:01:39,815 --> 01:01:43,705
holly and I met yesterday with a flag company, was

839
01:01:43,925 --> 01:01:47,915
to talk about the flag. So when we went to more of a, a navy

840
01:01:48,475 --> 01:01:52,265
look, uh, to the flag, even though we didn't change the seal itself,

841
01:01:53,275 --> 01:01:56,385
that navy would clash with green. So

842
01:01:57,555 --> 01:02:01,365
when, and ann knows, I hate picking colors, but we, we set for a long period

843
01:02:01,725 --> 01:02:05,545
of time looking at different shades of blue yesterday. Uh, so the, the

844
01:02:05,765 --> 01:02:09,765
county seal, once we get to the point of replacing this, these

845
01:02:10,085 --> 01:02:14,005
flags, I think we have about 20 left. We're going to transition to what will be

846
01:02:14,365 --> 01:02:18,165
a blue flag with the county seal. That county

847
01:02:18,435 --> 01:02:22,415
seal has been, uh, printed on the same material as what our flags

848
01:02:22,825 --> 01:02:26,425
are. Now, it's upstairs in your, uh, office. Mm-hmm

849
01:02:26,885 --> 01:02:30,285
. So ann even went to the arduous task of cutting out the seal

850
01:02:31,745 --> 01:02:35,485
so that you can take a look at it. We also, if you put it up against the, um, the commonwealth

851
01:02:36,145 --> 01:02:39,735
of virginia flag, it's not gonna be as dark. Right.

852
01:02:40,265 --> 01:02:44,195
ann? No. And I can't remember the official name. It's not heritage blue, is it? It's

853
01:02:44,545 --> 01:02:48,445
legion blue. Legion blue, yes. But it's a little bit

854
01:02:48,645 --> 01:02:52,585
lighter than the, the blue that you would see in the commonwealth of virginia flag. But

855
01:02:52,805 --> 01:02:56,485
I just wanted to give you an idea what it's gonna look like. Um, and that obviously

856
01:02:56,885 --> 01:03:00,845
will be noticed, I would assume, by our general public. And we change from a transition from a green

857
01:03:01,115 --> 01:03:05,085
flag to a, to a blue flag. But we wanted you to have a look at, to see what that looks

858
01:03:05,245 --> 01:03:09,135
like. I think it looks really sharp. Um, we're hopeful that, that you agree.

859
01:03:09,825 --> 01:03:13,605
but if you want to take time between now and or after this

860
01:03:13,845 --> 01:03:17,125
meeting to go upstairs and look at it, uh, we have it on display up there.

861
01:03:18,225 --> 01:03:22,105
um, the board fall advance. So we were, we were looking at,

862
01:03:22,385 --> 01:03:25,475
at two specific timeframes. One was october 23rd

863
01:03:26,625 --> 01:03:29,845
and 24th. The next would be october 30th and 31st.

864
01:03:31,825 --> 01:03:35,675
my preference would be the 30th and 31st, because the county fair

865
01:03:36,665 --> 01:03:40,605
is the 17th, 18th, and 19th. So I think you might want a

866
01:03:40,725 --> 01:03:43,805
little bit of a break in between. But I wanted you all to look at your calendars if you,

867
01:03:45,065 --> 01:03:48,805
you 23rd, 24th, or 30th, or 31st, that thursday's, friday,

868
01:03:49,505 --> 01:03:53,415
if that works for you all. Uh, for that, again,

869
01:03:53,765 --> 01:03:57,725
county fair is the 17th, 18th, 19th. It's the same pay structure

870
01:03:57,985 --> 01:04:01,565
as last year. $10 for adults, $5 for children,

871
01:04:02,545 --> 01:04:06,525
and parking is free. Uh, so that's information's on the county website about that

872
01:04:06,725 --> 01:04:10,705
a little bit later in the year than what we've done in the past, but should be a little bit cooler. Um,

873
01:04:10,945 --> 01:04:14,735
and really, I don't think conflicts with high school football as much. So again,

874
01:04:15,085 --> 01:04:19,045
county fair. Um, next thing I wanted to just mention,

875
01:04:19,425 --> 01:04:23,165
as I, uh, noticed this morning, I'm sure you all did too, do county public

876
01:04:23,445 --> 01:04:27,225
schools, our back in action, and just to call that attention to

877
01:04:27,465 --> 01:04:31,285
our public, that you do have children now standing on the side of the road.

878
01:04:32,265 --> 01:04:36,125
um, and I, I watched this morning as I was going

879
01:04:36,285 --> 01:04:40,125
down ball salt road where a child was outside, it looked like maybe

880
01:04:40,565 --> 01:04:44,565
a, a teenage driver, I'm assuming a cell phone. Um, but

881
01:04:44,765 --> 01:04:48,345
it was almost a near miss with the ch with the child in the driveway. So,

882
01:04:49,265 --> 01:04:53,005
um, you know, and I know our sheriff's office does a phenomenal job with that, but just

883
01:04:53,565 --> 01:04:57,525
reminded me to make a public statement that a, put your cell phone down. B, notice

884
01:04:57,905 --> 01:05:01,765
the fact that you got kids standing on the side of the road and to obey the, the speed

885
01:05:01,965 --> 01:05:05,765
limit there for sure. Um, and I just hope that

886
01:05:06,045 --> 01:05:09,965
the school system has a fantastic year. I mean, with, that's, that's a big part of what we do

887
01:05:10,125 --> 01:05:14,125
here. Um, fire and emsi just, just wanted to bring it to the attention of

888
01:05:14,325 --> 01:05:18,185
the public that we had a meeting with the fire and rescue association last week. And,

889
01:05:19,025 --> 01:05:22,685
um, you know, just a special thank you to chief kissner and and his team.

890
01:05:23,745 --> 01:05:27,725
you know, we, we started this when the board first got on. And mr. Dooley, I,

891
01:05:27,925 --> 01:05:31,905
I know you had a, a very good scheduling conflict for that particular day, taking your child to,

892
01:05:32,185 --> 01:05:36,165
to college. Um, but what a, what a good event. And, and I think

893
01:05:36,285 --> 01:05:39,745
it's just a special time for us to, to talk about, um,

894
01:05:40,435 --> 01:05:44,245
fire and ems not only from our paid, but from our volunteer system and just how

895
01:05:44,445 --> 01:05:48,125
fortunate and how blessed we are that we have a system that kind of works

896
01:05:48,525 --> 01:05:52,525
together in that way. Uh, 'cause that's not necessarily the case and a lot of other jurisdictions.

897
01:05:53,865 --> 01:05:57,625
um, and it's been a year of adding a whole lot of new team players, um,

898
01:05:58,145 --> 01:06:02,135
to, to the list. And so, uh, really good meeting, positive direction there.

899
01:06:03,185 --> 01:06:07,125
uh, ms. Eber, brona mentioned hurricane. Um, that's out.

900
01:06:07,325 --> 01:06:11,205
aaron that's in the, out out now out the sea. It's the first major

901
01:06:11,525 --> 01:06:15,405
hurricane, I guess, of the season. It peaked last night at category

902
01:06:15,675 --> 01:06:19,545
five. I think it's been downgraded to a four. It's anticipated to stay off

903
01:06:19,765 --> 01:06:23,725
coast. But, um, it is a time to remind everybody about hurricane

904
01:06:24,565 --> 01:06:28,345
preparedness. And I know chief kissner has talked to the county staff about that. And,

905
01:06:29,025 --> 01:06:32,925
and so we can kind of heed that warning. Um, and we've dodged the bullet,

906
01:06:33,725 --> 01:06:37,245
I guess the last few years. So just, but just a bit of concern. We'll put out some more information.

907
01:06:37,745 --> 01:06:41,685
but just really wanna encourage our citizens to stay informed about the hurricanes

908
01:06:42,285 --> 01:06:46,285
that they see. Um, and specifically code red that we have on

909
01:06:46,485 --> 01:06:49,785
the county website. Um, if you haven't, um,

910
01:06:50,635 --> 01:06:54,345
gone in and, and created a, a membership for that, you, we encourage you to do that. That's

911
01:06:54,765 --> 01:06:58,665
gonna be your best way to be, get communication updates from us. Um, and

912
01:06:58,885 --> 01:07:02,765
also to just stay, stay vigilant with the news. Um, the second thing,

913
01:07:03,755 --> 01:07:07,645
this comes from virginia department emergency management, um, is to start building

914
01:07:08,025 --> 01:07:12,005
now emergency kits. And so when you, when you think about that, it's making sure

915
01:07:12,245 --> 01:07:16,165
that you have appropriate water. They recommend a gallon per person in household

916
01:07:16,665 --> 01:07:20,435
per day. Uh, non-perishable foods, medications, flashlights

917
01:07:21,155 --> 01:07:24,475
with extra batteries, first aid kits, cash,

918
01:07:25,425 --> 01:07:29,145
get cash before a storm, because a lot of times atms, um,

919
01:07:29,585 --> 01:07:33,565
are not working as well. Uh, as well as debit transactions are sometimes

920
01:07:33,885 --> 01:07:37,405
limited. Um, also, you know, just, just watch

921
01:07:37,975 --> 01:07:41,785
we'll, we'll put out information on how to protect your home, what to do, um,

922
01:07:42,265 --> 01:07:46,205
if the power goes out. I know both south side electric and dominion

923
01:07:46,465 --> 01:07:50,205
put out really good information, but it's just something we need to take a look at. And then obviously,

924
01:07:50,815 --> 01:07:54,485
we'll, your government here, we're gonna, we're gonna work with you in the event something takes place there.

925
01:07:56,225 --> 01:08:00,045
um, also just wanted to mention the vaco county summit that we attended last week.

926
01:08:00,805 --> 01:08:04,425
I, I've been doing this now for 20 some years and

927
01:08:05,275 --> 01:08:09,185
have had the pleasure to go to a lot of vaco meetings. And I thought that it

928
01:08:09,405 --> 01:08:13,005
was a good meeting. Uh, but I, mr. Dooley and I attended

929
01:08:13,645 --> 01:08:17,585
a breakout session on, I guess the energy and land use

930
01:08:17,805 --> 01:08:21,805
committee, and he and I talked about it. You know, I

931
01:08:21,925 --> 01:08:25,685
don't know that in, in my career, I have seen such a divided commonwealth.

932
01:08:27,425 --> 01:08:30,685
so the, the issues that are important to northern virginia

933
01:08:31,985 --> 01:08:35,325
and to virginia beach look a whole lot different

934
01:08:36,315 --> 01:08:39,835
than the rest of the commonwealth. And we seem to be extremely

935
01:08:40,555 --> 01:08:44,445
polarized, um, on a lot of issues that's there.

936
01:08:45,225 --> 01:08:49,105
um, so this election, you know, we started off the vaco, uh,

937
01:08:49,505 --> 01:08:52,995
county officials summit with some of our state legislators

938
01:08:54,115 --> 01:08:58,045
that are running for office, uh, in the positions of attorney general lieutenant

939
01:08:58,765 --> 01:09:02,545
governor and governor lieutenant governors came, um, as well as ag.

940
01:09:03,665 --> 01:09:07,465
um, both abigail span berger and winsome sears weren't in attendance, but

941
01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:11,285
they had been in years past. So I just wanted to remind everybody

942
01:09:11,755 --> 01:09:15,745
that I, I think this is a really important state election this year, um,

943
01:09:16,095 --> 01:09:20,045
which made me think about, you know, again, don't throw away your, your chance to vote and make a

944
01:09:20,165 --> 01:09:23,925
difference and educate yourselves on the issues that are affecting

945
01:09:25,215 --> 01:09:27,805
local government as well as the commonwealth of virginia.

946
01:09:29,305 --> 01:09:33,065
um, you know, ver voter turnout, if you look at it and track it, is,

947
01:09:33,345 --> 01:09:37,045
is not, it's been steady, but it's not been increasing. And so you'll see

948
01:09:37,455 --> 01:09:40,685
lower turnout at a, a, um, election

949
01:09:41,505 --> 01:09:45,005
for governor than you will president. So, uh, just a couple points there.

950
01:09:45,885 --> 01:09:49,605
september 19th, so about a month away, you start early

951
01:09:49,945 --> 01:09:53,605
voting in denwoody county. So from september 19th to october 31st,

952
01:09:55,805 --> 01:09:59,525
citizens can come to the, the voter registrar's office between eight 30 and four 30.

953
01:10:00,425 --> 01:10:03,465
and, and they can cast that vote before you get to election day.

954
01:10:04,585 --> 01:10:08,185
um, there's gonna be two saturdays that you can vote. That's october 25th and

955
01:10:08,605 --> 01:10:12,585
november 1st. And if you're not registered to vote, the last day

956
01:10:12,805 --> 01:10:16,605
that you can register is october 24th. And so, again, just,

957
01:10:16,845 --> 01:10:20,845
just wanna put that information out there. Um, also yesterday,

958
01:10:21,665 --> 01:10:25,505
um, I had the privilege to, um, for

959
01:10:25,725 --> 01:10:29,725
the first ever, richard bland decided to have a convocation. So it

960
01:10:29,845 --> 01:10:33,165
was all of their first year students as well as their returning second year students.

961
01:10:33,905 --> 01:10:37,725
and all of the, the athletes over 200, some athletes are, are in, in

962
01:10:37,925 --> 01:10:41,765
place now at richard bland college. And they've asked, they asked me to come back and be their convocation

963
01:10:42,475 --> 01:10:46,425
keynote speaker. So I had an, an awesome, um, time to

964
01:10:46,645 --> 01:10:50,445
be able to do that yesterday. And just to, just to see where richard bland college

965
01:10:50,705 --> 01:10:54,515
is going. It's really the only, the higher ed in denwoody soil, even

966
01:10:54,805 --> 01:10:58,485
though we do support the region. And it just, you know, president

967
01:10:58,945 --> 01:11:02,945
sidedo, um, with a new board of visitors now, I think it headed in

968
01:11:03,165 --> 01:11:06,945
a really good direction. But to see the, the young, uh,

969
01:11:07,445 --> 01:11:11,185
students that were there and what they're planning on doing and what they're anticipated doing is, is,

970
01:11:11,465 --> 01:11:15,365
is phenomenal work. So had that privilege. And the last thing I think, and

971
01:11:15,805 --> 01:11:19,605
I think mr. Lee you're gonna talk about a little bit too, is, uh, the recognition

972
01:11:20,305 --> 01:11:24,225
by the virginia association of counties to recognize, uh, the

973
01:11:24,445 --> 01:11:28,445
county's mock trial project. And I call it the counties 'cause it's

974
01:11:28,685 --> 01:11:32,605
really started off in the school system. So the secondary gifted program,

975
01:11:33,905 --> 01:11:37,725
um, that my wife had a p pleasure of leading, um, when she was working for the school

976
01:11:37,925 --> 01:11:41,725
system. But just this collaboration between our commonwealth attorney's

977
01:11:42,085 --> 01:11:45,755
office and our sheriff's office. So our investigatory unit

978
01:11:46,115 --> 01:11:49,635
with the sheriff's office spent a tremendous amount of time educating

979
01:11:50,645 --> 01:11:54,505
students on, uh, the mock trial. And of course, it was the commonwealth versus the

980
01:11:54,725 --> 01:11:58,725
grinch, and did he really steal christmas or not? Uh, but this actually made

981
01:11:59,285 --> 01:12:03,125
national news. Cnn picked it up. Um, and we, we submitted this as

982
01:12:03,365 --> 01:12:07,355
a model project along with two others. And, uh, vaco recognized it with

983
01:12:08,105 --> 01:12:11,885
the best small county project. So as you all know, that, you know,

984
01:12:12,565 --> 01:12:16,405
denwoody has won that before. The second time we won it for the faith-based initiative.

985
01:12:17,025 --> 01:12:21,005
the second was the county city planning project, and now this is

986
01:12:21,165 --> 01:12:25,025
the third time. So in the last five years, we've won three times. That's

987
01:12:25,445 --> 01:12:29,325
more than any other jurisdiction. Um, of the, of the counties that exist,

988
01:12:29,775 --> 01:12:33,725
68 of them are under 50,000. And so to, to be in that

989
01:12:34,165 --> 01:12:38,085
category, um, just again, shows the, the innovation I

990
01:12:38,205 --> 01:12:42,125
think of, of the people in denwoody that work in local government to

991
01:12:42,285 --> 01:12:46,205
try to find ways to collaborate and again, be innovative, to teach

992
01:12:46,685 --> 01:12:50,485
children and to find other projects that are meaningful. So just, just very proud

993
01:12:50,745 --> 01:12:54,685
of the staff to, to take on that initiative and to be recognized. And I think

994
01:12:54,915 --> 01:12:58,765
vaco will be coming at a subsequent meeting to november meeting to, to

995
01:12:58,965 --> 01:13:02,925
be able to do that. Okay. Mr. Chairman, that's all I have. Alright. Thank you.

996
01:13:03,085 --> 01:13:07,005
thank you. Well, mr. Dooley, we'll start with you.

997
01:13:08,155 --> 01:13:12,125
okay. Uh, I really don't have much. I'm looking forward to the town hall meeting that we have coming up.

998
01:13:12,465 --> 01:13:16,225
uh, looking forward to getting in front of folks and, and hearing the issues and

999
01:13:16,805 --> 01:13:20,145
challenges that are facing our rural, uh, district. And

1000
01:13:20,835 --> 01:13:24,825
also just spreading some, some good news too with the expansion of, of the

1001
01:13:25,205 --> 01:13:28,925
internet services that are coming out. Um, I remind folks, weather's

1002
01:13:29,445 --> 01:13:33,215
getting nice. Uh, we did have the opening ceremony for five forks

1003
01:13:33,565 --> 01:13:37,315
visitor center. Uh, I hear all the time, what do we have to do in the county? This

1004
01:13:37,605 --> 01:13:41,565
is an outstanding trail system that folks can get out and exercise and

1005
01:13:41,725 --> 01:13:45,475
walk. I was out there, uh, sunday riding horses. So it's

1006
01:13:45,765 --> 01:13:49,685
also the opportunity for our equestrian folks to get out in our community and, and

1007
01:13:49,885 --> 01:13:52,995
find places to ride. So that's really all I have. Okay.

1008
01:13:55,515 --> 01:13:59,485
alright. So I will talk about our friends that are here from the lions club.

1009
01:13:59,645 --> 01:14:03,065
first, um, 25 years ago,

1010
01:14:04,015 --> 01:14:07,875
there was a group of people and the nucleus being evelyn nice.

1011
01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:12,545
her brother was a district governor in

1012
01:14:12,765 --> 01:14:16,765
the state of kentucky for lions international. And each state

1013
01:14:17,305 --> 01:14:21,005
has, is broken into territorial regions, and they have

1014
01:14:21,445 --> 01:14:24,765
district governors and her, between her and her brother,

1015
01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:29,365
they brought the dream of creating

1016
01:14:29,885 --> 01:14:33,855
a, a lions club in denwitty county to the petersburg lions

1017
01:14:34,205 --> 01:14:38,085
club. Well, at that time, I was the president of the petersburg lions club.

1018
01:14:38,625 --> 01:14:42,585
and so the petersburg lions club was the sponsor for

1019
01:14:42,805 --> 01:14:46,705
the denwitty lions club, which initially met in

1020
01:14:46,925 --> 01:14:50,345
the farm, the basement of the farm bureau building, um,

1021
01:14:50,955 --> 01:14:54,715
initially, and that's where we were chartered at, where the, the lions club in dity

1022
01:14:55,005 --> 01:14:57,815
county was chartered. Unfortunately, covid,

1023
01:14:59,065 --> 01:15:02,955
um, took my club away. The petersburg lions

1024
01:15:03,305 --> 01:15:07,205
club time caught up with us. And, uh, but

1025
01:15:07,735 --> 01:15:11,395
that being said, the denwitty lions club is still here, still

1026
01:15:12,065 --> 01:15:15,985
functioning. So I collect glasses in my office and I present them

1027
01:15:16,325 --> 01:15:19,865
to the denwitty lions club. If you're not one of the major projects

1028
01:15:20,385 --> 01:15:24,365
that the, the lions that they will accept your glasses, your old

1029
01:15:24,585 --> 01:15:28,505
glasses, if you can donate them, um, they are taken to third

1030
01:15:28,745 --> 01:15:32,405
world countries or other countries outside the united states, and

1031
01:15:32,975 --> 01:15:36,335
they are read by lions and they are labeled

1032
01:15:37,165 --> 01:15:41,145
and they go on mission projects to, as an example, I know they've

1033
01:15:41,385 --> 01:15:45,225
gone to haiti. Um, and for those that don't have glasses,

1034
01:15:46,575 --> 01:15:49,985
something that's close is better than nothing when you're blind.

1035
01:15:51,005 --> 01:15:54,175
so that's one of the things that they do as well as collecting hearing aids.

1036
01:15:55,215 --> 01:15:59,165
okay. We have a hearing aid bank, uh, that's actually in richmond. So we as

1037
01:15:59,505 --> 01:16:03,385
a community could collect, um, hearing aids that can be

1038
01:16:03,545 --> 01:16:07,385
presented to the lions club. One of the things jt morris does, they do collect

1039
01:16:07,705 --> 01:16:11,585
hearing aids as people, uh, transition. Uh, I know that

1040
01:16:11,965 --> 01:16:15,945
eal small does that too, but there are some other funeral homes that we may be reaching

1041
01:16:16,065 --> 01:16:19,245
out to that, that we can do that. But looking forward to

1042
01:16:20,525 --> 01:16:24,285
the, the anniversary in september, being able to speak, um,

1043
01:16:24,845 --> 01:16:28,825
for that 25th anniversary. And I just wanna say thank you to what

1044
01:16:29,165 --> 01:16:32,825
you are doing for our community. Um, you know, the main

1045
01:16:33,215 --> 01:16:36,945
call is, if you can't see, the lions club will

1046
01:16:37,225 --> 01:16:41,025
help you with that. Mm-hmm . Okay. And that's what we're in the business

1047
01:16:41,285 --> 01:16:44,945
for. So thank you for what you're doing and looking forward to september.

1048
01:16:45,615 --> 01:16:49,105
okay. Um, also one of the things is screenings in the school system,

1049
01:16:50,005 --> 01:16:53,255
uh, prevent blindness helps with that, which is now called conexus.

1050
01:16:54,205 --> 01:16:58,015
um, but they help in with kids. You don't realize what

1051
01:16:58,305 --> 01:17:02,055
it's like when a child is coming to school. A lot of times a parent doesn't realize that

1052
01:17:02,345 --> 01:17:06,265
your child can't see. Okay. Even though they may go to a pediatrician and have

1053
01:17:06,505 --> 01:17:10,125
their checkup, you don't realize that the lions club does screenings

1054
01:17:10,685 --> 01:17:14,405
for those kids. I think starting at the third grade level, that's where it really comes

1055
01:17:14,795 --> 01:17:18,725
into play. Um, a lot more board work when you get to that third grade

1056
01:17:19,005 --> 01:17:22,825
level than it is at the kindergarten, first and second grade levels. So, but

1057
01:17:23,045 --> 01:17:25,185
anyway, thank you for what you do ladies. Um,

1058
01:17:28,025 --> 01:17:31,755
of course, leading us into a new school year. Yesterday was the first year,

1059
01:17:32,055 --> 01:17:35,895
first day of our students coming back. We had what, kindergarten, sixth

1060
01:17:36,245 --> 01:17:40,045
grade, ninth graders yesterday. Today, everybody's in the school.

1061
01:17:40,705 --> 01:17:44,565
uh, I just want to wish our school board, all of our executives

1062
01:17:45,205 --> 01:17:49,205
that are in the system, uh, from superintendent and all the way down to

1063
01:17:49,365 --> 01:17:53,365
the classroom because the marines are in the classroom, uh, that take care of our

1064
01:17:53,725 --> 01:17:57,665
children. So I hope that we have a very successful year, um, as

1065
01:17:57,885 --> 01:18:01,785
far as that's concerned. Just a reminder, first football game is not

1066
01:18:02,005 --> 01:18:05,845
at home this year. It's on the road at colonial heights. It's, it's august the

1067
01:18:06,045 --> 01:18:10,035
28th. So I hope that everybody that's listening to me will make

1068
01:18:10,325 --> 01:18:13,345
their trek to colonial heights on that friday evening. Um,

1069
01:18:14,435 --> 01:18:17,965
good to be at the vaco summit last week. Serve on the education committee.

1070
01:18:18,465 --> 01:18:22,265
one of the things this past year we were very blessed to get

1071
01:18:22,645 --> 01:18:26,565
a significant amount of funding, uh, through the general assembly for public

1072
01:18:26,915 --> 01:18:30,125
education. And we will continue to do that as we move forward,

1073
01:18:30,945 --> 01:18:34,805
um, even with elections and the general assembly and what can and could

1074
01:18:35,005 --> 01:18:38,905
change, uh, at, at the state level. But we are there and

1075
01:18:39,125 --> 01:18:42,995
in particular for those positions that are non soq positions that

1076
01:18:43,625 --> 01:18:47,525
affect our budget, uh, tremendously, um, from a dollars

1077
01:18:47,825 --> 01:18:51,585
and cents point of view. So that is one of our platform issues

1078
01:18:52,005 --> 01:18:55,725
there. Um, wanna talk a little bit about tonight. Tonight

1079
01:18:56,225 --> 01:18:59,605
we have some significant, um, special recognitions

1080
01:19:00,835 --> 01:19:04,405
that we will be here at seven o'clock when we come back into the, the session.

1081
01:19:05,265 --> 01:19:09,065
um, really looking forward to it. 'cause we have an individual that has put

1082
01:19:09,285 --> 01:19:13,005
her heart and soul into, um, serving

1083
01:19:13,555 --> 01:19:17,385
this community. So looking forward to this evening. Um, and

1084
01:19:18,005 --> 01:19:21,755
piggybacking on the event that was at five forks, just

1085
01:19:22,165 --> 01:19:26,075
a question for us as a board, if we want to improve our signage

1086
01:19:26,955 --> 01:19:30,575
that is related to that particular corridor on courthouse

1087
01:19:31,315 --> 01:19:34,415
road coming to and from in both directions

1088
01:19:35,425 --> 01:19:39,195
to try to promote it a little bit more in that corridor. Okay.

1089
01:19:39,485 --> 01:19:42,285
something to think about. Thank you,

1090
01:19:44,395 --> 01:19:48,165
. Okay. Um, just a,

1091
01:19:48,525 --> 01:19:52,435
a couple of things and, um, the, the two nice

1092
01:19:52,725 --> 01:19:56,145
people we have out here for the lions club, thank you. Um,

1093
01:19:56,765 --> 01:20:00,665
I did not realize that you all did all that as dr. Moore was saying. And, um,

1094
01:20:01,505 --> 01:20:05,445
I'm definitely going to, uh, tell people when I see them, all the work that you

1095
01:20:05,605 --> 01:20:08,285
all do. So thank you both again for all you do.

1096
01:20:09,665 --> 01:20:13,385
um, the, um, vaco summit, uh,

1097
01:20:13,845 --> 01:20:17,405
I did, uh, attend and I, I sit on the health and human

1098
01:20:17,925 --> 01:20:21,845
services, uh, board. Um, a couple of things they

1099
01:20:22,045 --> 01:20:25,995
said that was kind of interesting, uh, october, the october 1st

1100
01:20:26,945 --> 01:20:30,675
was gonna be, um, some different things coming into

1101
01:20:31,035 --> 01:20:34,845
play. And they, the gentleman, uh, that was

1102
01:20:35,045 --> 01:20:38,855
there, he was, uh, trying to tell the board

1103
01:20:39,395 --> 01:20:43,145
exactly what's gonna happen. He didn't know everything that was gonna happen, but

1104
01:20:43,865 --> 01:20:47,745
he said that, um, they're working through some things with the snap and

1105
01:20:48,245 --> 01:20:52,225
medicaid and he said that, um, at

1106
01:20:52,445 --> 01:20:56,125
one time the federal government used to do, uh, a hundred percent.

1107
01:20:57,585 --> 01:21:00,965
and, um, and, um, that, um, now it's gonna be

1108
01:21:01,635 --> 01:21:05,595
changed a little bit. It's not, uh, the federal government is not gonna do a hundred percent. It's

1109
01:21:05,885 --> 01:21:09,825
gonna be looking at the, um, the counties and,

1110
01:21:10,305 --> 01:21:14,285
um, and from the, uh, from richmond that it's gonna be a,

1111
01:21:14,725 --> 01:21:18,685
a different, um, uh, level that's gonna be a little bit different.

1112
01:21:18,945 --> 01:21:22,685
so, but he, he didn't, he didn't, um, he didn't

1113
01:21:22,965 --> 01:21:26,885
really, um, have all the numbers together. We were asking a whole lot of questions

1114
01:21:27,105 --> 01:21:31,045
and he said, well, they're working through some, some of the formulas and we're gonna

1115
01:21:31,125 --> 01:21:34,345
see what, what's going to happen and with that. So,

1116
01:21:35,305 --> 01:21:37,825
um, that, that's the, um,

1117
01:21:39,505 --> 01:21:42,905
that's the thing with that. I'm sorry, , just trying. Um,

1118
01:21:44,635 --> 01:21:48,595
yeah. Um, so we are just going to kind

1119
01:21:48,885 --> 01:21:52,285
of look at, um, um, uh, exactly what we're gonna do after october 1st.

1120
01:21:53,505 --> 01:21:57,005
so, um, my whole concern was not to pass any of the,

1121
01:21:57,745 --> 01:22:01,545
uh, funds down. Uh, now, uh, some of the, uh,

1122
01:22:02,235 --> 01:22:05,935
lack of monies down to their localities, that was my primary thing.

1123
01:22:06,365 --> 01:22:10,045
I said, you know, um, we don't want that coming down to the counties where we have to

1124
01:22:10,475 --> 01:22:14,465
pick up the slack. So we're gonna see after october 1st what the formula is

1125
01:22:14,835 --> 01:22:18,385
when they finish doing that. And also, um,

1126
01:22:18,985 --> 01:22:22,885
voting, you know, um, we have to get out and vote. This is a year that

1127
01:22:23,505 --> 01:22:26,865
we really need to look at what's going on, um,

1128
01:22:27,725 --> 01:22:31,425
a across this state. And if you have young people, please,

1129
01:22:32,145 --> 01:22:35,405
uh, encourage them to vote to come out because

1130
01:22:36,365 --> 01:22:40,285
a lot of things that's happening is gonna affect them, uh, down the line.

1131
01:22:40,545 --> 01:22:43,765
so we wanna make sure that they get out and, um, and vote

1132
01:22:44,705 --> 01:22:48,685
and know what's going on, read about the policies that

1133
01:22:48,885 --> 01:22:52,805
people have and make sure that's something that, uh, you wanna be

1134
01:22:53,005 --> 01:22:56,805
a part of. But we would really want to encourage them. When I see a young person, I

1135
01:22:57,025 --> 01:23:00,725
ask 'em, are you registered to vote? And one little girl said, oh, I'm only 16.

1136
01:23:01,145 --> 01:23:04,805
she was working at the fast food. And I said, that's fine, that's fine. I said, but,

1137
01:23:05,225 --> 01:23:09,045
um, if you know someone, make sure that we encourage them to do that

1138
01:23:09,555 --> 01:23:13,405
because it is a year that, um, we have to look at and look

1139
01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:16,925
at how it's gonna benefit everyone, and especially after october 1st,

1140
01:23:17,835 --> 01:23:21,615
that that's when a lot of changes are gonna happen. So we're gonna see what's gonna happen after

1141
01:23:21,965 --> 01:23:25,705
that time. And, um, and

1142
01:23:26,005 --> 01:23:29,925
I think that is, um, all I, all I have with the health and

1143
01:23:30,145 --> 01:23:34,125
um, human services is just making sure that, um, we keep an

1144
01:23:34,245 --> 01:23:37,805
eye on eye on the individuals, especially people that are disabled

1145
01:23:38,345 --> 01:23:42,245
and cannot do for themselves. We wanna make sure that the funds are

1146
01:23:42,445 --> 01:23:45,965
there to take care of them and, um, and, uh, individuals

1147
01:23:46,625 --> 01:23:50,525
in some of these, uh, rehab centers and things like that. So we just wanna make sure

1148
01:23:50,685 --> 01:23:54,545
that, um, keep our eye out, eye on those things and

1149
01:23:54,765 --> 01:23:58,685
that, um, their funds are not cut. So again, I told the

1150
01:23:58,845 --> 01:24:02,765
first we have to see what happens and everything. So, um, and that's all I

1151
01:24:02,885 --> 01:24:06,485
have about that right now. Alright. Thank you mu okay. What the changes,

1152
01:24:07,435 --> 01:24:11,265
well, everyone said about what I was going to say. I'm like, uh,

1153
01:24:11,825 --> 01:24:15,765
mr. Dooley, I'm looking forward to town hall. I didn't

1154
01:24:15,965 --> 01:24:19,885
think I'd ever say that , uh, but I'm looking forward

1155
01:24:20,225 --> 01:24:23,765
to that. And vaco is a very interesting lot of information

1156
01:24:24,465 --> 01:24:28,205
we, uh, learned. Uh, marie hung out with me in one session with ms. Bonner

1157
01:24:29,505 --> 01:24:33,445
and I'm on the transportation, uh, committee, and we're

1158
01:24:33,685 --> 01:24:36,635
trying to get to the point where these, uh, six year plan,

1159
01:24:37,945 --> 01:24:41,805
you know, uh, trying to get rid of that. So, you know, pot, the money's

1160
01:24:42,165 --> 01:24:46,125
there, what potty you go pull it out of. Uh, so we talked about that.

1161
01:24:46,465 --> 01:24:50,265
that's, uh, very interesting. So we have a good group of guys, uh,

1162
01:24:50,545 --> 01:24:54,365
on transportation and vaco's really. I mean, they really

1163
01:24:54,645 --> 01:24:58,645
work hard for us. So, uh, but again, thank you everyone

1164
01:24:58,945 --> 01:25:02,865
for coming out tonight. Uh, the lions club, uh,

1165
01:25:03,825 --> 01:25:07,645
I'm a member of the moose club, so we do some neat things

1166
01:25:07,905 --> 01:25:11,735
too. So, uh, but I know mark's been with the lions club for quite

1167
01:25:12,165 --> 01:25:15,745
a while, long time. And, uh, but anytime you can serve in any

1168
01:25:16,285 --> 01:25:19,665
capacity and help people is what it's all about. So

1169
01:25:20,575 --> 01:25:24,525
thank you for what you do. Thank you,

1170
01:25:24,645 --> 01:25:28,565
mr. Chavis. Well, I'm doing my report. Y'all have said

1171
01:25:28,765 --> 01:25:32,545
everything on my report, but I'm do it. I'm gonna do it anyway, so,

1172
01:25:32,985 --> 01:25:36,905
uh, okay. Um, okay. Vaco, be

1173
01:25:37,215 --> 01:25:40,765
small county, um, be small county three times

1174
01:25:41,225 --> 01:25:44,875
in the last five years. Only locality to earn this designation

1175
01:25:45,635 --> 01:25:49,525
more than once. Um, chesterfield gets the big county

1176
01:25:50,535 --> 01:25:53,535
award almost as much as we get the little county award.

1177
01:25:54,545 --> 01:25:58,365
um, so, um, we, we, we tell

1178
01:25:58,725 --> 01:26:02,445
'em, they, they look at us and that's right. And then try to keep up, copy us.

1179
01:26:03,745 --> 01:26:07,665
um, of course we'll have the presentation here in,

1180
01:26:07,985 --> 01:26:11,935
um, in november. And, uh, we're

1181
01:26:12,405 --> 01:26:16,025
actually gonna have the director of, um, administrator of, uh,

1182
01:26:16,465 --> 01:26:19,935
vaco's come. And he wouldn't let any of his, um, staff

1183
01:26:20,515 --> 01:26:23,745
come. He wanted to come himself this time. So, um,

1184
01:26:24,945 --> 01:26:28,825
of course we all went to vaco summit last week, and I'm

1185
01:26:29,325 --> 01:26:33,215
actually on the board of directors for vaco. So I got to, uh, spend

1186
01:26:33,565 --> 01:26:37,105
the night in richmond. And then, um, next morning we had,

1187
01:26:37,585 --> 01:26:41,125
um, the meeting in the vaco offices, which they've,

1188
01:26:41,625 --> 01:26:44,865
um, just redone and it's very nice. Um,

1189
01:26:46,025 --> 01:26:49,815
so, um, so they, what mr. Massengill

1190
01:26:50,485 --> 01:26:53,445
said about the, um, difference between,

1191
01:26:55,185 --> 01:26:59,025
uh, northern virginia and, and or really the

1192
01:26:59,245 --> 01:27:02,825
urban versus rural. Um, and I was talking to,

1193
01:27:03,305 --> 01:27:07,035
um, victor angry, who is a supervisor from

1194
01:27:07,345 --> 01:27:10,885
prince william county, um, who will be our president

1195
01:27:11,915 --> 01:27:15,845
next year of vaco. And, uh, I invited him to

1196
01:27:16,045 --> 01:27:19,305
come to denwoody. I hope I can get him in a combine, um,

1197
01:27:20,825 --> 01:27:24,725
and understand that what we've got here in denwitty,

1198
01:27:25,665 --> 01:27:29,365
we want to preserve. Um, and that they're

1199
01:27:29,685 --> 01:27:33,505
not a lot of similarities between prince william county and then woody. Um,

1200
01:27:34,265 --> 01:27:38,245
but they're both very important. Uh, what they do in prince william is very important.

1201
01:27:39,465 --> 01:27:43,445
um, and, um, but I'm glad they're doing

1202
01:27:43,605 --> 01:27:47,485
it and not me. Uh, so, uh, so we hope that,

1203
01:27:48,125 --> 01:27:51,745
I hope I can, um, get him down here. Um,

1204
01:27:52,305 --> 01:27:56,265
as chairman, you get to do some neat things. Um, and

1205
01:27:56,785 --> 01:28:00,285
so the five forks grand reopening was one of those things.

1206
01:28:01,465 --> 01:28:05,425
um, they had hot dogs, so that's always good when you can eat.

1207
01:28:05,825 --> 01:28:09,645
um, but, but I think, um, and we

1208
01:28:09,945 --> 01:28:13,585
had a, um, tourism meeting, um,

1209
01:28:13,995 --> 01:28:17,695
last week and we, we talked about five forks

1210
01:28:18,085 --> 01:28:21,975
a lot. And I think the, the real future for five, five forks

1211
01:28:22,325 --> 01:28:26,225
is, is our future. Um, you know, and, and as

1212
01:28:26,445 --> 01:28:30,205
we start to promote it and start to do more and more

1213
01:28:30,455 --> 01:28:34,245
stuff, um, right there. And then

1214
01:28:35,225 --> 01:28:39,025
second thing was the pickleball and basketball courts. Um,

1215
01:28:40,345 --> 01:28:44,205
mr. Basque, you know, made his basket, uh, didn't embarrass himself.

1216
01:28:44,865 --> 01:28:48,755
and, and I lived to get off the pickleball court without

1217
01:28:49,365 --> 01:28:53,345
embarrassing myself. Um, but that was a good event. And,

1218
01:28:53,985 --> 01:28:57,765
um, you know, I think we're gonna get some use out of them every day

1219
01:28:58,025 --> 01:29:01,745
and, uh, no doubt. So, yeah. Um,

1220
01:29:05,075 --> 01:29:08,725
town hall meetings, um, you know, we, we started, 'em

1221
01:29:09,585 --> 01:29:13,365
did 'em, and then we kind of had a break. And now with, with last year we did

1222
01:29:13,765 --> 01:29:17,735
'em. Um, and, you know, we hear a lot

1223
01:29:17,815 --> 01:29:21,245
of complaints about county government and

1224
01:29:22,735 --> 01:29:26,455
what, what does do? Spend all the money and, well,

1225
01:29:26,855 --> 01:29:29,695
kevin's got the dollar bill that I, I love.

1226
01:29:30,925 --> 01:29:34,785
and you know, when you break it down with the dollar bill, you really see where your money's

1227
01:29:35,185 --> 01:29:39,175
going. Um, and if, if you don't want that firetruck

1228
01:29:40,605 --> 01:29:44,005
to come to your house or that, uh, police car

1229
01:29:44,845 --> 01:29:48,825
or that ambulance, then you know, maybe we can make some

1230
01:29:49,135 --> 01:29:52,425
cuts in our budget. Um, but if you want public safety

1231
01:29:53,485 --> 01:29:57,445
or you want somewhere to send your kids to school, you look at schools and

1232
01:29:57,665 --> 01:30:00,695
public safety, uh, right. Much of that dollar bill.

1233
01:30:01,765 --> 01:30:05,745
so we want to relay that in our, in our town hall meeting.

1234
01:30:06,885 --> 01:30:09,565
um, you know, so, um,

1235
01:30:11,135 --> 01:30:14,565
certainly gonna have staff there. We're gonna invite staff, um,

1236
01:30:15,925 --> 01:30:19,645
you know, my two being the son of the county. Um,

1237
01:30:20,685 --> 01:30:24,415
you know, if, if mr. Dooley and mr. Chavis want

1238
01:30:24,705 --> 01:30:28,455
to come, we kinda shall, um, some

1239
01:30:28,745 --> 01:30:32,065
and even you dr. Moore, um, in that,

1240
01:30:32,845 --> 01:30:36,485
um, olive branch section. So, um,

1241
01:30:37,525 --> 01:30:40,645
it, it, I think the town hall meetings are gonna be really

1242
01:30:41,695 --> 01:30:44,845
well received this time. And then, um,

1243
01:30:47,085 --> 01:30:50,985
mr. Dr. Moores, um, sold it

1244
01:30:51,225 --> 01:30:55,115
a little bit and I'm gonna sell it again tonight. Um, come back for the seven

1245
01:30:55,465 --> 01:30:58,175
o'clock session. It's gonna be, um, some,

1246
01:30:59,605 --> 01:31:03,365
uh, well received, uh, special presentations, um,

1247
01:31:04,215 --> 01:31:08,105
tonight. And, um, so we hope, you know, you'll be able

1248
01:31:08,225 --> 01:31:11,725
to come back and join us. Um, and

1249
01:31:12,765 --> 01:31:16,275
my last comment, um, and, and

1250
01:31:17,195 --> 01:31:21,135
my wife reminded me of this, um, after her first day of school

1251
01:31:21,525 --> 01:31:25,515
yesterday, is, um, people just be nice. You

1252
01:31:25,735 --> 01:31:29,485
know it and you don't know what other people are going through when, when

1253
01:31:29,795 --> 01:31:33,615
you confront 'em, but it doesn't cost you anymore to be mice.

1254
01:31:34,245 --> 01:31:37,135
amen. Mm-hmm . Amen. So, so yeah, just be nice.

1255
01:31:39,405 --> 01:31:41,495
alright, we have a need to go into closed session.

1256
01:31:44,395 --> 01:31:47,895
the board will convene into a closed session under 2.2 dash 3 7 1 1 a one, personnel

1257
01:31:48,695 --> 01:31:52,555
appointments creator planning district metropolitan planning organization, ity

1258
01:31:52,775 --> 01:31:55,255
county industrial development authority, 2.2 dash 3 7 180 5,

1259
01:31:57,015 --> 01:32:00,685
business and industry development discussion concerning prospective business or industry, or the expansion

1260
01:32:01,085 --> 01:32:04,525
of existing business or industry where no previous announcements have been made. Economic development

1261
01:32:05,205 --> 01:32:09,045
prospects update 2.2 dash 3 7 1 1 a three, discussion or

1262
01:32:09,365 --> 01:32:13,365
consideration of the acquisition of real property for a public purpose or of the disposition of publicly held real property

1263
01:32:13,575 --> 01:32:16,755
where discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating

1264
01:32:17,725 --> 01:32:21,275
strategy of the public body acquisition of property for economic development. Disposition

1265
01:32:21,965 --> 01:32:25,825
of public property for economic development. May I have a motion to go into close please? So

1266
01:32:26,045 --> 01:32:30,025
moved. Second roll call dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis?

1267
01:32:30,625 --> 01:32:33,185
aye. Ms. Ebra bonner aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee

1268
01:32:34,785 --> 01:32:37,845
aye. All voting? Aye. Alright, we'll see you back at seven.

1269
01:32:44,645 --> 01:32:47,345
I need a motion to come out of closed session. So moved. Second

1270
01:32:49,115 --> 01:32:53,115
roll call please. Dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra

1271
01:32:53,405 --> 01:32:57,205
bonner aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting

1272
01:32:57,585 --> 01:33:01,525
aye. Whereas this board convened in a closed meeting under 2.2 dash 3 7 1 1 a one.

1273
01:33:01,685 --> 01:33:05,605
personnel appointments creator planning district metropolitan planning organization, dewin county

1274
01:33:05,805 --> 01:33:09,045
industrial development authority, 2.2 dash 3 7 1 1 a five

1275
01:33:09,885 --> 01:33:13,645
business and industry development discussion concerning prospective business or industry or the expansion of

1276
01:33:14,005 --> 01:33:17,965
existing business or industry where no previous announcements have been made. Economic development prospects update

1277
01:33:18,705 --> 01:33:22,685
2.2 dash 3 7 1 1 a three discussion or consideration of the acquisition of

1278
01:33:22,805 --> 01:33:26,485
real property for a public purpose or of the disposition of publicly held real property where discussion

1279
01:33:26,845 --> 01:33:30,195
in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public body

1280
01:33:30,915 --> 01:33:34,765
acquisition or property for economic development disposition of public property for

1281
01:33:35,085 --> 01:33:39,005
economic development. And whereas no member has made a statement that there was a departure from the lawful

1282
01:33:39,285 --> 01:33:42,925
purpose of such closed meeting or of the matters identified in the motion discussed now being certified

1283
01:33:43,365 --> 01:33:47,365
that only those matters were identified in the motion were heard, discussed, or considered in the meeting. I need a motion to adopt

1284
01:33:47,605 --> 01:33:51,205
please. So move. Second. Can we have a roll call, please?

1285
01:33:51,665 --> 01:33:55,545
dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley?

1286
01:33:56,105 --> 01:33:59,985
aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye. Alright, thank you. Uh,

1287
01:34:00,415 --> 01:34:04,365
we're gonna, um, go back into recess for, um, till seven

1288
01:34:04,645 --> 01:34:08,575
o'clock and then we'll um, have the seven o'clock meeting. Thank

1289
01:34:08,925 --> 01:34:08,925
you.

1290
01:34:15,105 --> 01:34:18,805
I'd like to welcome everyone to the seven o'clock, uh, portion

1291
01:34:19,305 --> 01:34:23,225
of the, uh, de county board of supervisors meeting, uh, at

1292
01:34:23,445 --> 01:34:26,925
this time. Uh, first I'd like to welcome everyone here tonight.

1293
01:34:27,945 --> 01:34:31,525
um, and we're gonna have, um, a couple of

1294
01:34:31,965 --> 01:34:35,405
re resolutions and then we're gonna have a, a lifetime achievement

1295
01:34:36,095 --> 01:34:39,825
award. So, uh, at this time we're gonna go ahead and, and

1296
01:34:40,305 --> 01:34:44,265
get started with the, um, special recognition. Okay. We'll come down. Yep.

1297
01:35:10,795 --> 01:35:14,605
good evening. So the first person we're gonna recognize tonight on their retirement

1298
01:35:15,545 --> 01:35:18,605
is ben jones. Ben, where are you?

1299
01:35:20,905 --> 01:35:23,585
is he hiding? Okay, come on up, ben.

1300
01:35:29,945 --> 01:35:31,285
mr. Haw, can you also come up?

1301
01:35:45,345 --> 01:35:46,525
oh, you're still coming up anyway. Right?

1302
01:35:51,985 --> 01:35:55,925
so there, there are two type of people in denwoody, pe, people that

1303
01:35:56,235 --> 01:35:58,935
have city water and people that don't.

1304
01:36:01,035 --> 01:36:04,785
true. So, so ben is, is really the

1305
01:36:05,075 --> 01:36:08,885
epitome of denwoody county water authority. So ben, we have about 3,200

1306
01:36:09,485 --> 01:36:13,365
connections, give or take, you probably could tell me to the exact amount. Probably 33 50.

1307
01:36:14,705 --> 01:36:18,525
33 50. If you wanna know where any type

1308
01:36:18,765 --> 01:36:22,645
of infrastructure is to our sewer infrastructure, to our

1309
01:36:22,805 --> 01:36:26,125
water infrastructure, ben jones knows exactly where it is.

1310
01:36:27,145 --> 01:36:30,645
um, so he decided after a, a long career

1311
01:36:31,595 --> 01:36:34,575
with dene county water authority that it was time to call it quits.

1312
01:36:35,785 --> 01:36:39,485
and I can tell you just from working with the leadership

1313
01:36:39,845 --> 01:36:42,685
at the water authority, somebody like a ben jones is, is irreplaceable.

1314
01:36:43,865 --> 01:36:47,025
um, but ben, you honor us to be able to, to recognize you,

1315
01:36:48,025 --> 01:36:51,865
uh, on your retirement and, and can't, can't thank you enough for

1316
01:36:52,085 --> 01:36:56,075
all the work that you've done over the years. And chairman baha

1317
01:36:56,465 --> 01:36:59,905
is, is obviously the head of the dey county water authority, um,

1318
01:37:00,785 --> 01:37:04,515
on the board. And I know I probably, you can echo the comments that I I've

1319
01:37:04,805 --> 01:37:08,645
made. I'm not gonna put you on spot if you wanna say something, but if you wanna say something.

1320
01:37:11,075 --> 01:37:13,205
yeah, I'll feel a little. So, ,

1321
01:37:16,145 --> 01:37:18,795
um, when I came on the war authority,

1322
01:37:20,435 --> 01:37:23,845
uh, I didn't know ben. I knew his wife

1323
01:37:25,325 --> 01:37:29,095
through my contact with my nephew who worked

1324
01:37:29,595 --> 01:37:32,515
for her, but I didn't know ben.

1325
01:37:34,195 --> 01:37:37,435
and you know, it, I have found in my

1326
01:37:38,365 --> 01:37:42,215
life that getting to know someone slowly is much

1327
01:37:42,415 --> 01:37:44,895
better than making a, a rash judgment

1328
01:37:47,795 --> 01:37:51,645
with ben, you had to go look for him because he was

1329
01:37:52,585 --> 01:37:56,325
in the field or doing something else else. But I'll describe

1330
01:37:56,625 --> 01:38:00,295
ben this one matter. Ben

1331
01:38:00,775 --> 01:38:03,875
is the man, um,

1332
01:38:05,035 --> 01:38:08,975
in every organization and, and that I've

1333
01:38:09,215 --> 01:38:12,455
been associated with. There are those people

1334
01:38:14,045 --> 01:38:18,015
that you see and I'm kind of flashy. And then

1335
01:38:18,175 --> 01:38:21,085
there are those people who get the job done.

1336
01:38:23,275 --> 01:38:26,825
I slept real well at night because I never got a phone call

1337
01:38:27,865 --> 01:38:30,655
with a water problem because ben got,

1338
01:38:32,375 --> 01:38:36,175
and ben was the person that we had, we went to,

1339
01:38:37,535 --> 01:38:41,475
he knew who to call, he knew what to do, he knew where it

1340
01:38:41,675 --> 01:38:43,955
was, and he knew what materials to needed

1341
01:38:45,755 --> 01:38:48,205
and I can't say anything else from back then.

1342
01:38:49,915 --> 01:38:53,845
he was the man. Thank you. Thank you

1343
01:38:53,965 --> 01:38:54,485
mr. .

1344
01:39:00,595 --> 01:39:04,405
very, very well said. The, the only other additional piece I'll make and then we'll

1345
01:39:04,645 --> 01:39:07,885
ask the clerk to, to read your, your proclamation into record.

1346
01:39:08,785 --> 01:39:12,105
um, if you, you stop and think about the tremendous responsibility

1347
01:39:13,865 --> 01:39:17,795
of making sure that, that you deliver safe, uh, potable

1348
01:39:18,605 --> 01:39:22,445
drinking water to the public, um, and to make sure that that's

1349
01:39:22,725 --> 01:39:26,675
done in such a way that's extremely reliable. I'm, I'm always just awed

1350
01:39:26,965 --> 01:39:30,845
by the water authority and specifically the way they go about their

1351
01:39:31,245 --> 01:39:34,615
business. Again, ben, we wouldn't be the water authority we are today

1352
01:39:35,395 --> 01:39:39,055
without you. So thank you so much. Thank you madam

1353
01:39:39,405 --> 01:39:41,645
clerk. If you could read the, the proclamation.

1354
01:39:44,995 --> 01:39:48,905
whereas benjamin ben james jones ii has

1355
01:39:49,125 --> 01:39:52,645
faithfully served the citizens of dmw witty county through the dmw witty county water authority

1356
01:39:53,345 --> 01:39:56,805
for 38 years, holding numerous roles of increasing responsibility

1357
01:39:57,905 --> 01:40:01,835
and culminating his career as authority operations manager. And whereas

1358
01:40:02,325 --> 01:40:05,875
throughout his tenure, mr. Jones worked tirelessly to provide safe,

1359
01:40:06,605 --> 01:40:10,125
reliable drinking water to the citizens of dim witty county, consistently promoting

1360
01:40:10,685 --> 01:40:14,525
sound operations, preventative maintenance, and responsible stewardship of

1361
01:40:14,725 --> 01:40:18,645
public infrastructure. And whereas mr. Jones was a true team

1362
01:40:18,925 --> 01:40:22,925
player who was always willing to cooperate with dem witty county initiatives, sharing his

1363
01:40:23,085 --> 01:40:26,525
knowledge with summer interns through the dem county youth workforce development

1364
01:40:27,165 --> 01:40:31,165
initiative, and participating in the annual government day event where he helped

1365
01:40:31,355 --> 01:40:35,265
educate youth about the importance of water service in the community. And

1366
01:40:35,715 --> 01:40:39,605
whereas mr. Jones was a, a significant part of the county's economic

1367
01:40:39,765 --> 01:40:43,635
development team, often working alongside county staff when

1368
01:40:44,005 --> 01:40:48,005
meeting with prospective businesses and was frequently thought of as an extension of county

1369
01:40:48,205 --> 01:40:51,925
government due to his professionalism, insight, and commitment to supporting

1370
01:40:52,365 --> 01:40:55,985
growth and opportunity in dinwitty. And whereas mr. Jones'

1371
01:40:56,405 --> 01:41:00,365
leadership institutional knowledge and commitment to teamwork enhance daily

1372
01:41:00,775 --> 01:41:04,375
operations and emergency response alike supporting continuity

1373
01:41:05,045 --> 01:41:08,925
of service during routine maintenance system upgrades and unforeseen events.

1374
01:41:09,985 --> 01:41:13,405
and whereas his professionalism, integrity, and customer focused

1375
01:41:14,045 --> 01:41:17,765
approach earned the respect of colleagues, partner agencies in the community

1376
01:41:18,185 --> 01:41:22,125
he served. And whereas mr. Jones' exemplary service reflects

1377
01:41:22,685 --> 01:41:26,685
great credit upon himself, the denwity county water authority and denwoody county

1378
01:41:26,845 --> 01:41:30,845
as a whole. Now therefore be it resolved that the deity county board of

1379
01:41:30,965 --> 01:41:34,905
supervisors hereby recognizes and commends benjamin james jones ii

1380
01:41:35,545 --> 01:41:39,365
for 38 years of dedicated and distinguished service to the de witty county water

1381
01:41:39,645 --> 01:41:43,285
authority and to the citizens of de witty county and be it further resolved

1382
01:41:43,675 --> 01:41:47,205
that a copy of this resolution be spread upon the minutes of this meeting for all eternity.

1383
01:42:13,255 --> 01:42:16,925
thank you. Thank you. And ben, if you could stick around

1384
01:42:17,455 --> 01:42:21,245
after the tonight's recognitions. We're gonna take some more pictures up here at the end.

1385
01:42:30,505 --> 01:42:30,505
okay.

1386
01:42:42,175 --> 01:42:45,975
do we have a motion for the resolution? So moved. Second. Can

1387
01:42:46,195 --> 01:42:49,655
we have the roll call, please? Dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis?

1388
01:42:50,295 --> 01:42:54,095
aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee aye.

1389
01:42:54,335 --> 01:42:57,465
all voting? Aye. All right. The, uh, motion carries.

1390
01:43:02,425 --> 01:43:02,425
okay.

1391
01:43:16,535 --> 01:43:19,395
the second recognition that we have tonight, uh, is to mr. Jean jones

1392
01:43:21,975 --> 01:43:25,645
on his retirement. Jean, there you go. Thank

1393
01:43:25,995 --> 01:43:28,005
god you got your hat on . Sorry.

1394
01:43:30,315 --> 01:43:33,055
I I had just been named county administrator in 2006,

1395
01:43:34,995 --> 01:43:37,915
a little bit nervous coming to board meetings and jean had to give a report

1396
01:43:39,695 --> 01:43:42,935
and so can you take your hat off? Oh yeah. So

1397
01:43:44,095 --> 01:43:47,955
he, he took his hat off this young county administrator. I'm, I'm looking

1398
01:43:48,175 --> 01:43:52,165
and I'm asking ann, I'm like, where's gene? He's like, he's in the audience. I said, gene's

1399
01:43:52,565 --> 01:43:56,245
not here. Where is gene? So then I told gene, don't ever take your hat off anymore.

1400
01:43:56,745 --> 01:44:00,665
so you, so I, I started ty county, my

1401
01:44:00,885 --> 01:44:04,425
service here in november of 2002. And

1402
01:44:04,985 --> 01:44:08,925
my, my first couple days on the job, for those that remember dwayne

1403
01:44:09,365 --> 01:44:13,165
abernathy, dwayne was the building official. So dwayne said,

1404
01:44:13,535 --> 01:44:17,485
kevin, we've got, uh, interviews and being you're my boss, you're gonna be

1405
01:44:17,605 --> 01:44:21,565
on the interview panel with me, if that's okay. And so anything, anybody knows anything

1406
01:44:21,645 --> 01:44:25,405
about interviews, a there's never any pre-selection. And if you're interviewing six people,

1407
01:44:25,905 --> 01:44:29,605
you interview six people. The problem was gene interview,

1408
01:44:30,035 --> 01:44:33,565
that gene was about the second person we interviewed that day.

1409
01:44:34,905 --> 01:44:38,705
and not only when he finished did he blow our socks off, it

1410
01:44:38,925 --> 01:44:42,795
was the point of do we have to interview the other people? Uh, because gene

1411
01:44:43,085 --> 01:44:45,515
did such a phenomenal job, gene comes in and build inspections

1412
01:44:47,105 --> 01:44:50,125
starts a couple weeks after I got to dim witty. So my whole career

1413
01:44:51,305 --> 01:44:54,085
in dim witty county has been working with gene jones.

1414
01:44:55,585 --> 01:44:59,565
and since his retirement in july, um, I've been

1415
01:44:59,645 --> 01:45:02,485
kind of the, the interim gene jones.

1416
01:45:04,105 --> 01:45:07,785
so if I didn't know what gene was doing before, I really know what gene's doing now,

1417
01:45:08,945 --> 01:45:12,665
and, um, mr. Baja, you said it well about ben, the man,

1418
01:45:13,705 --> 01:45:17,705
uh, that's, that's gene jones. We, we had the privilege of

1419
01:45:18,345 --> 01:45:21,885
of really spending some time with gene and his family. The influence

1420
01:45:22,365 --> 01:45:26,345
that gene's family has had on gene as far as the person, the

1421
01:45:26,585 --> 01:45:30,005
man that he is, just the overall quality and character,

1422
01:45:30,665 --> 01:45:34,595
the work ethic, um, that he has is, is really that

1423
01:45:34,875 --> 01:45:38,695
of his family. And you couldn't be around gene, but

1424
01:45:38,915 --> 01:45:42,875
about 10, 15 minutes. And he would explain the work ethic that he

1425
01:45:43,035 --> 01:45:46,235
got from his family, his heart and soul is his family.

1426
01:45:47,215 --> 01:45:50,945
and we're just pleased that for the years, since 2002, that

1427
01:45:51,735 --> 01:45:55,715
we consider gene part of our family. And even though he's gone on to retirement

1428
01:45:56,575 --> 01:46:00,315
and doing some other things in life, he's still part of the family.

1429
01:46:01,135 --> 01:46:05,095
uh, so jean, we've got a, a resolution to proclamation that we want to,

1430
01:46:05,655 --> 01:46:09,155
to read into the record at this time. Madam clerk, if you can read that,

1431
01:46:12,465 --> 01:46:16,435
whereas charles eugene, jean jones jr. A proud native

1432
01:46:16,775 --> 01:46:20,595
son of denwoody county, graduated from denwoody county high school in 1979

1433
01:46:21,695 --> 01:46:25,635
and has faithfully served his community in both professional and volunteer capacities

1434
01:46:25,955 --> 01:46:29,835
throughout his this life. And whereas jean has faithfully served the

1435
01:46:30,235 --> 01:46:34,115
citizens of dim witty county for nearly 23 years, beginning his career in the office of

1436
01:46:34,475 --> 01:46:38,475
building inspections in november, 2002, and culminating his

1437
01:46:38,915 --> 01:46:42,815
distinguished tenure as director of general services. And whereas during

1438
01:46:43,235 --> 01:46:47,195
his tenure with deity county, gene provided oversight for numerous major projects,

1439
01:46:47,865 --> 01:46:51,825
including the development of the sports complex, the establishment of man

1440
01:46:52,325 --> 01:46:56,065
convenience sites, construction of the government center complex, the

1441
01:46:56,605 --> 01:47:00,125
creation of the robert and betty ragsdale community center, and the renovation

1442
01:47:00,925 --> 01:47:04,885
construction of each of the county's volunteer fire departments, thereby leaving a lasting

1443
01:47:05,425 --> 01:47:09,365
impact on the community. And whereas prior to his service

1444
01:47:09,635 --> 01:47:13,205
with dwi county, jean was a self-employed home builder for 18 years

1445
01:47:14,205 --> 01:47:17,765
demonstrating skill entrepreneurship and a commitment to quality craftsmanship

1446
01:47:18,675 --> 01:47:22,205
that laid the foundation for his future in public service. And whereas

1447
01:47:22,795 --> 01:47:26,245
jean also served his community as a dedicated member of the ford volunteer

1448
01:47:26,845 --> 01:47:30,795
fire department from 1980 to 1995, including five

1449
01:47:31,085 --> 01:47:34,765
years as fire chief from 1990 to 1995, exemplifying

1450
01:47:35,565 --> 01:47:39,525
leadership, courage, and a heart for service. And whereas throughout

1451
01:47:40,045 --> 01:47:43,805
his career, gene demonstrated an extraordinary work ethic and unwavering

1452
01:47:44,605 --> 01:47:47,605
commitment to excellence and a genuine dedication to public service.

1453
01:47:48,785 --> 01:47:52,445
and whereas jean led by example, earning the respect

1454
01:47:52,865 --> 01:47:56,685
and admiration of his colleagues and staff by never asking his team

1455
01:47:56,905 --> 01:48:00,845
to do anything that he himself was not willing to do, fostering a

1456
01:48:00,965 --> 01:48:04,165
spirit of teamwork, mutual respect and shared purpose.

1457
01:48:05,145 --> 01:48:09,035
and whereas his leadership integrity and institutional knowledge have

1458
01:48:09,325 --> 01:48:13,005
contributed greatly to the success and efficiency of denwity county's operations

1459
01:48:13,905 --> 01:48:17,685
and his presence will be deeply missed by his colleagues, staff, and the community

1460
01:48:18,005 --> 01:48:22,005
at large. Now therefore, be it resolved that the denwity county board of

1461
01:48:22,125 --> 01:48:26,125
supervisors on this 19th day of august, 2025 desires to express

1462
01:48:26,405 --> 01:48:30,325
their appreciation to charles eugene, jean jones jr. For his

1463
01:48:30,485 --> 01:48:34,405
many years of loyal, dedicated service to denwoody county and be it

1464
01:48:34,525 --> 01:48:38,445
further resolved by the board of supervisors of den witty county, virginia, that this

1465
01:48:38,885 --> 01:48:42,845
resolution be presented to charles eugene, jean jones jr. And a copy

1466
01:48:43,005 --> 01:48:45,245
spread upon the minutes of this meeting for all eternity.

1467
01:49:09,545 --> 01:49:13,125
um, I'd like to thank that man back there for teach you much trade. ,

1468
01:49:13,665 --> 01:49:16,785
um, has capital saying a big old family that's dalton.

1469
01:49:17,785 --> 01:49:21,545
uh, he basically told me everything I know about construction, so, um, he

1470
01:49:21,925 --> 01:49:25,845
deserved a whole lot of credit. That's it. I've got one comment.

1471
01:49:26,465 --> 01:49:30,245
um, we had a retirement party for jean at, uh, east

1472
01:49:30,555 --> 01:49:33,835
side and kevin did a presentation on jean

1473
01:49:34,585 --> 01:49:38,055
and had pictures from early high school years,

1474
01:49:38,855 --> 01:49:42,745
maybe yeah. Smaller than when he was smaller than that. And gene had

1475
01:49:42,965 --> 01:49:46,485
blonde hair. I probably passed his shoulders. He looked like a rock star.

1476
01:49:47,505 --> 01:49:51,125
and, uh, I I didn't remember that. I, I probably

1477
01:49:51,545 --> 01:49:55,275
had seen him like that, but, um, he, he definitely was our rock

1478
01:49:55,565 --> 01:49:59,525
star for a long time here in denwood and we appreciate amen. Um, what

1479
01:49:59,805 --> 01:50:00,405
he did for this county.

1480
01:50:25,585 --> 01:50:29,465
all right. Could we have a motion for the resolution? So

1481
01:50:29,685 --> 01:50:32,905
moved. Second. Can we have a roll call please? Dr. Moore?

1482
01:50:33,705 --> 01:50:37,505
aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee?

1483
01:50:38,305 --> 01:50:40,015
aye. All voting? Aye. Alright.

1484
01:50:56,405 --> 01:50:56,655
no, look.

1485
01:51:11,375 --> 01:51:15,135
so, um, the lifetime achievement award is, um,

1486
01:51:15,705 --> 01:51:19,475
something that we, um, had talked about

1487
01:51:20,295 --> 01:51:23,655
and, um, so this is the first one. Um,

1488
01:51:25,055 --> 01:51:28,955
and I don't know how you start at the top and work, I guess we'll work our way down

1489
01:51:29,735 --> 01:51:33,675
now from, from this nominee, but I hope this

1490
01:51:33,915 --> 01:51:37,755
is a surprise. Um, I think it

1491
01:51:37,955 --> 01:51:41,555
will be. But, um, could we get betty bowen

1492
01:51:42,935 --> 01:51:43,695
to come forward, please?

1493
01:52:03,195 --> 01:52:03,195
surprise.

1494
01:52:10,705 --> 01:52:14,605
so, betty, surprise, um, I, I

1495
01:52:14,725 --> 01:52:18,625
can't begin really to talk about about betty. Um,

1496
01:52:19,395 --> 01:52:23,335
I've been fired and hired, I don't know how many times since

1497
01:52:23,765 --> 01:52:26,745
I started with betty. Um,

1498
01:52:28,635 --> 01:52:31,955
typically when she does fire me, it's outta love

1499
01:52:32,945 --> 01:52:36,795
and there's always a way that she says I can earn my spot back in, into

1500
01:52:37,085 --> 01:52:40,795
the county team. Uh, but in, in all seriousness, when

1501
01:52:41,825 --> 01:52:45,525
the board last year, it was about a year ago, the board was thinking

1502
01:52:45,885 --> 01:52:49,505
about the tremendous amount of people that we have in

1503
01:52:49,965 --> 01:52:53,685
denwoody county and just the, the value and the power

1504
01:52:54,905 --> 01:52:58,445
of expressing appreciation to those individuals that, that really

1505
01:52:59,375 --> 01:53:03,265
truly, when we talk about a lifetime achievement is

1506
01:53:03,525 --> 01:53:07,155
a, a life well spent. And initially

1507
01:53:08,005 --> 01:53:11,905
a whole lot of names, um, came forward. We've got a lot of people to

1508
01:53:12,405 --> 01:53:15,305
recognize. But again, um, dr. Moore

1509
01:53:16,705 --> 01:53:20,445
was the first to really say, hey, I, I've got one that I really, really, really

1510
01:53:20,765 --> 01:53:24,325
think is extremely special. And when he put betty forward,

1511
01:53:25,585 --> 01:53:29,465
it was quickly accepted that if you're going to do it, you know, set

1512
01:53:29,685 --> 01:53:33,565
the bar pretty high. Um, I've been told you

1513
01:53:33,725 --> 01:53:37,445
don't tell someone's age, but as I left church

1514
01:53:37,765 --> 01:53:40,945
on sunday, betty showed me her new car,

1515
01:53:43,825 --> 01:53:47,725
and she said, it's not new, but it's new to me. I said, I

1516
01:53:47,845 --> 01:53:51,845
got it betty as she was driving, and I said, I just want you to be careful.

1517
01:53:52,225 --> 01:53:56,025
she said, I'm 92, right? And you, you

1518
01:53:56,245 --> 01:54:00,225
said, I got a few good years left . So

1519
01:54:01,215 --> 01:54:05,005
betty, um, we can't thank you enough and we're so happy

1520
01:54:05,385 --> 01:54:09,245
to, to recognize you. Uh, our okra church family, we talk

1521
01:54:09,405 --> 01:54:13,245
about the county family right there, but I'm, I'm a member of okra united method church in

1522
01:54:13,445 --> 01:54:17,325
sun on sundays or every day. And I, there's a lot

1523
01:54:17,565 --> 01:54:21,285
of people here from oak oakland and then the community to support ms. Betty.

1524
01:54:22,305 --> 01:54:26,165
um, dr. Moore, do you wanna say anything before

1525
01:54:26,985 --> 01:54:28,525
we read? Lemme give you that,

1526
01:54:39,105 --> 01:54:42,865
you know, tonight is a special evening when you have an opportunity to

1527
01:54:44,535 --> 01:54:47,565
thank someone that has been a part of your community

1528
01:54:48,825 --> 01:54:52,725
for 90 years. What she has done for our community.

1529
01:54:54,385 --> 01:54:58,005
matter of fact, for us as a board, because I can promise you, when I first came on the board

1530
01:54:58,565 --> 01:55:02,525
14 years ago, betty made a point to say, these are some of the things that we

1531
01:55:02,685 --> 01:55:06,505
need to work on in did witty county. And, uh, but I'm appreciative of

1532
01:55:06,725 --> 01:55:10,395
that. Um, but she has put her heart and soul into

1533
01:55:10,795 --> 01:55:14,085
what she has believed in, and that is the history of this county

1534
01:55:14,835 --> 01:55:18,685
over the years. Um, and so just from

1535
01:55:18,885 --> 01:55:22,875
the board of supervisors, from dan and all of the others, and kevin, you know, this

1536
01:55:23,165 --> 01:55:26,925
is just our way representing the citizens of denwitty county

1537
01:55:27,315 --> 01:55:30,885
that we can just say, thank you. God has honored

1538
01:55:31,505 --> 01:55:35,465
us. Your church is here to honor you. The

1539
01:55:36,005 --> 01:55:39,165
citizens are here to honor you. This is not the end.

1540
01:55:40,425 --> 01:55:44,205
we know that. But we continue to work

1541
01:55:44,485 --> 01:55:47,965
with you going forward and we value our relationship

1542
01:55:48,715 --> 01:55:52,525
with you. And we pray that you value, um, us in your

1543
01:55:52,725 --> 01:55:56,405
relationship and in your life. May god continue to bless you. Thank you.

1544
01:56:11,945 --> 01:56:15,655
raised on a dairy farm in chesterfield county, elizabeth love betty bowen

1545
01:56:16,865 --> 01:56:20,395
has spent her life nurturing not only her own family, raising

1546
01:56:20,995 --> 01:56:24,785
five children and becoming a proud grandmother to seven and

1547
01:56:25,005 --> 01:56:28,885
great-grandmother to nine, but also the broader community she has

1548
01:56:29,085 --> 01:56:32,985
so faithfully served. Mrs. Bowen dedicated 25 years of

1549
01:56:33,205 --> 01:56:37,205
professional service to jcpenney department store, and served as a den

1550
01:56:37,285 --> 01:56:41,145
mother and adult trainer for the cub scouts. Instilling values of

1551
01:56:41,365 --> 01:56:45,215
leadership and service in youth, a charter member of the deity

1552
01:56:45,565 --> 01:56:48,565
county historical society since its founding in 1985,

1553
01:56:49,745 --> 01:56:53,605
she served as a director for 17 years, volunteered as a docent

1554
01:56:53,965 --> 01:56:57,865
at the historic courthouse, and championed the preservation and

1555
01:56:58,085 --> 01:57:01,885
maintenance of this treasured landmark. Her passion for history and education

1556
01:57:03,025 --> 01:57:05,925
is further demonstrated in her coordination of the march 6th, 1997

1557
01:57:07,435 --> 01:57:11,205
student field study of denwoody county architecture. An effort involving

1558
01:57:11,605 --> 01:57:15,525
300 students and eight buses traveling 86 miles across

1559
01:57:15,925 --> 01:57:19,635
the county. She assisted with historic structure surveys,

1560
01:57:20,605 --> 01:57:24,285
chancery cause digitization for the library of virginia, and played

1561
01:57:24,645 --> 01:57:28,605
a leading role in the publication of denwoody county, virginia heritage,

1562
01:57:29,525 --> 01:57:33,395
1752 to 2006. She also worked closely with

1563
01:57:33,885 --> 01:57:37,365
lineage societies such as the daughters of the american revolution,

1564
01:57:38,265 --> 01:57:42,045
united daughters of the confederacy and sons of confederate veterans.

1565
01:57:42,625 --> 01:57:46,205
to offer historical and genealogical education to the public,

1566
01:57:47,585 --> 01:57:51,545
mrs. Bowen's efforts helps secure a grant from the cameron foundation for

1567
01:57:51,765 --> 01:57:55,605
the conservation study of the denwoody county historical society and courthouse archives.

1568
01:57:57,065 --> 01:58:00,825
she co-ordinated the county civil war su

1569
01:58:01,245 --> 01:58:05,045
quincentennial committee and contributed research for the placement of

1570
01:58:05,525 --> 01:58:08,875
historic highway markers. Most notably honoring elizabeth keekley,

1571
01:58:10,405 --> 01:58:14,265
a devoted member of the okra united methodist church. She has served as

1572
01:58:14,525 --> 01:58:18,035
a sunday school teacher, choir member, youth mentor, communion

1573
01:58:18,645 --> 01:58:22,085
committee member, and was instrumental in establishing the church library.

1574
01:58:23,465 --> 01:58:27,085
she has also served as a member of the dimity county tourism advisory committee

1575
01:58:27,945 --> 01:58:31,005
and was named dimity county senior citizen of the year in 2016,

1576
01:58:32,645 --> 01:58:35,265
a proud member of the j ton club since 2006.

1577
01:58:36,665 --> 01:58:39,165
she was named ton of the year in two in 2015

1578
01:58:40,785 --> 01:58:44,725
for her tireless service, unwavering civic engagement, and deep commitment

1579
01:58:45,245 --> 01:58:49,205
to preserving the history and heritage of denwitty county. We are proud to

1580
01:58:49,365 --> 01:58:52,725
honor mrs. Betty bowen with the denwitty county lifetime achievement award.

1581
01:59:14,185 --> 01:59:18,125
ladies and gentlemen, I have one more individual to call up and it's the honorable

1582
01:59:18,665 --> 01:59:22,475
kim taylor with the house of delegates who also would like to make

1583
01:59:22,805 --> 01:59:26,345
a presentation. Kim ms. Bowen,

1584
01:59:27,005 --> 01:59:30,485
it's an honor to be here tonight to to join into this recognition of you.

1585
01:59:31,225 --> 01:59:34,765
you are truly an example to us all. To, from your,

1586
01:59:35,755 --> 01:59:39,155
from everything that you've done. It's, it's such an inspiration that

1587
01:59:39,825 --> 01:59:43,385
and, and a reminder that we need to, each of us needs to serve in our own way.

1588
01:59:44,305 --> 01:59:47,845
so I just wanna recognize you with a certificate from the house of delegates

1589
01:59:48,825 --> 01:59:52,815
and thank you for all your service to denwoody county for all these years. Thank

1590
01:59:53,165 --> 01:59:53,165
you.

1591
02:00:09,485 --> 02:00:13,115
I don't have anything written down. Okay?

1592
02:00:15,595 --> 02:00:19,325
this is a surprise. I want you to know

1593
02:00:19,635 --> 02:00:22,965
that I greeted all my fellow church members

1594
02:00:24,465 --> 02:00:27,805
and you know, every one of 'em have told a story this morning.

1595
02:00:31,275 --> 02:00:34,925
they have told me they were here for something that's going up in

1596
02:00:35,365 --> 02:00:39,085
somebody's field and that's not why they here. But I do thank

1597
02:00:39,405 --> 02:00:42,965
you. I thank each and every one of you for you have bestowed

1598
02:00:43,525 --> 02:00:47,055
this on me. I love the roses.

1599
02:00:48,385 --> 02:00:52,365
so I don't know what else to say other than just thank you,

1600
02:00:52,575 --> 02:00:56,405
thank you for the recognition. And I do

1601
02:00:56,635 --> 02:00:58,195
want to say something about jean jones.

1602
02:01:02,345 --> 02:01:05,085
uh oh, I'm not gonna use profanity. .

1603
02:01:07,395 --> 02:01:10,115
jean jones will never, ever

1604
02:01:11,465 --> 02:01:14,925
be replaced in this county. He has given

1605
02:01:15,625 --> 02:01:18,885
so much and he has done so much for this county.

1606
02:01:20,905 --> 02:01:24,905
uh, we had, uh, angel young gi who heads up

1607
02:01:25,185 --> 02:01:29,065
the children's service and

1608
02:01:29,285 --> 02:01:33,205
she says, I want to know something. How is it

1609
02:01:34,395 --> 02:01:38,185
when I call jean jones? He takes a week, 10

1610
02:01:38,435 --> 02:01:42,225
days to get to me, but when you

1611
02:01:42,515 --> 02:01:46,445
call him, he's here in 10 minutes, .

1612
02:01:49,885 --> 02:01:53,805
I said, well, angel is like this. You and I work in a

1613
02:01:54,155 --> 02:01:57,505
very old, old building, the

1614
02:01:58,285 --> 02:02:02,285
historic courthouse. She worked there 12 years. I worked there

1615
02:02:02,925 --> 02:02:06,835
18. And I said, when I call, when you call

1616
02:02:07,395 --> 02:02:11,135
jean, and when I call jean, jean knows

1617
02:02:11,485 --> 02:02:15,465
it's something pertaining to the historic courthouse. And

1618
02:02:15,705 --> 02:02:19,685
him coming in 10 minutes may fix a $5 problem,

1619
02:02:21,225 --> 02:02:24,955
but if he waited 10 days or two weeks, that

1620
02:02:25,245 --> 02:02:28,665
could be 5,000 bucks. So

1621
02:02:29,275 --> 02:02:33,215
gene, I love you. We going to miss you. I'm going

1622
02:02:33,565 --> 02:02:37,365
to miss you. And I know they miss you already. What miss y'all

1623
02:02:37,645 --> 02:02:41,645
do, I love you. I love you, I love you

1624
02:02:42,065 --> 02:02:45,645
and I love all my church families and I forgive you for telling the story.

1625
02:02:46,365 --> 02:02:48,775
, thank

1626
02:02:57,645 --> 02:02:57,845
I am coming.

1627
02:05:11,945 --> 02:05:15,805
um, we're gonna take a, a five minute recess, so if

1628
02:05:16,005 --> 02:05:19,925
there's anybody that, uh, came for the presentation that would like to

1629
02:05:20,105 --> 02:05:24,065
hit, I, we certainly welcome you to state to the hearings. Um,

1630
02:05:24,705 --> 02:05:28,545
but if, if you would like five minutes to, um, to

1631
02:05:28,765 --> 02:05:32,605
go we, or yeah, and if any pictures

1632
02:05:33,005 --> 02:05:36,785
with the board, um, being a gene, you're

1633
02:05:37,205 --> 02:05:40,425
welcome to come up here and I don't know why you would, but no.

1634
02:05:41,625 --> 02:05:45,345
um, oh, the family, yeah. At this time, uh, five minute recess.

1635
02:05:51,115 --> 02:05:54,875
alright, we're gonna go ahead and, and get started, um, back

1636
02:05:55,165 --> 02:05:59,165
with the public hearings. So, um, we'll go ahead and we'll get started,

1637
02:05:59,865 --> 02:06:03,325
uh, with case fv dash 25

1638
02:06:04,115 --> 02:06:06,795
dash one, mr. Bassett.

1639
02:06:14,715 --> 02:06:18,485
good evening, mr. Chair. Mr. Massengill and board members,

1640
02:06:22,305 --> 02:06:26,145
uh, the first case we're holding public hearing on this evening is

1641
02:06:26,445 --> 02:06:28,725
a request to vacate an alley.

1642
02:06:30,625 --> 02:06:34,325
the applicants this evening, uh, requesting the alley vacation

1643
02:06:34,945 --> 02:06:38,815
are ash abbey enterprises and kag homes

1644
02:06:39,485 --> 02:06:43,345
llc. And their agent is here to represent them this evening. Mr. Hampton

1645
02:06:43,905 --> 02:06:47,665
gordon, again, uh, they're requesting to

1646
02:06:48,365 --> 02:06:52,265
vacate the alley between, uh, multiple tax map

1647
02:06:52,485 --> 02:06:56,385
numbers and the alley is of course located on

1648
02:06:56,605 --> 02:06:59,415
the east side of route one approximately 850

1649
02:07:00,795 --> 02:07:04,045
feet south of the intersection of route one and first street

1650
02:07:05,025 --> 02:07:08,985
or route six 50. The property on

1651
02:07:09,205 --> 02:07:12,865
both sides of the alley, uh, contains approximately 1.69

1652
02:07:14,575 --> 02:07:17,805
acres and the property is zone a two agricultural

1653
02:07:18,605 --> 02:07:21,955
general. As indicated in the denwoody county comprehensive

1654
02:07:22,955 --> 02:07:26,845
land use plan. The subject property is located within the rural

1655
02:07:27,045 --> 02:07:30,955
conservation area, which allows for low density residential

1656
02:07:31,995 --> 02:07:35,845
uses for this general area of the county. The applicants

1657
02:07:36,365 --> 02:07:40,165
are proposing to consolidate the subject lots and develop

1658
02:07:40,765 --> 02:07:44,745
a single family residence on the property. The

1659
02:07:45,285 --> 02:07:49,205
existing alley that runs through the center of the subject lots needs to be vacated

1660
02:07:49,465 --> 02:07:52,845
to allow for the affirmation. Lots to be consolidated

1661
02:07:53,755 --> 02:07:55,665
into one residential building lot.

1662
02:07:58,065 --> 02:08:01,915
uh, the alley itself is, uh, not improved. It's

1663
02:08:02,205 --> 02:08:06,125
an unimproved alley and just shows on a,

1664
02:08:06,745 --> 02:08:10,645
on a plat. Um, again, it's, it's not improved

1665
02:08:12,025 --> 02:08:14,315
as provided for in virginia code section 15.22006,

1666
02:08:17,865 --> 02:08:21,865
the local governing body may vacate streets and alleys to

1667
02:08:22,085 --> 02:08:25,565
accommodate development in order to discontinue the alley.

1668
02:08:26,385 --> 02:08:29,765
the board of supervisors may adopt an ordinance of vacation

1669
02:08:30,905 --> 02:08:33,495
as attached to the, to this memorandum.

1670
02:08:35,695 --> 02:08:39,685
after the public hearing changes may be made to the ordinances as appropriate.

1671
02:08:42,145 --> 02:08:45,965
uh, staff this evening is recommending approval of the request to vacate the alley.

1672
02:08:47,545 --> 02:08:51,525
and again, um, the ordinance to, uh, vacate

1673
02:08:51,725 --> 02:08:54,525
the alley is included, uh, in your packet.

1674
02:08:55,985 --> 02:08:57,965
I'd be glad to answer any questions at this time.

1675
02:09:00,545 --> 02:09:03,755
any questions at this time? Okay,

1676
02:09:04,945 --> 02:09:05,765
not, thank you mr. Chair.

1677
02:09:09,795 --> 02:09:13,045
alright. Would the applicant like to come forward with

1678
02:09:16,675 --> 02:09:20,545
hampton gordon? 14, 100 boyden plank road? I'm here, uh, on

1679
02:09:20,765 --> 02:09:23,785
behalf of kg homes and, uh,

1680
02:09:25,125 --> 02:09:29,005
I just wanna say as always, uh, mark and his team always do a great job.

1681
02:09:29,665 --> 02:09:33,445
um, there's not much, much more that I can say, uh, mainly

1682
02:09:33,725 --> 02:09:37,625
here to answer questions. Uh, this property, as you know, um, is

1683
02:09:37,865 --> 02:09:41,745
at the corner, southeast corner of route six 50. Uh, and, and, uh,

1684
02:09:41,965 --> 02:09:45,965
route one and dewitt, um, I don't know if I can,

1685
02:09:47,065 --> 02:09:51,005
can I use this here? Probably not. Probably not. Yeah. Can you scroll

1686
02:09:51,205 --> 02:09:54,935
down to the tax map? Um,

1687
02:09:55,655 --> 02:09:59,475
no. Do you have a tax map in the packet? Do you have a tax map in your pa

1688
02:09:59,675 --> 02:10:01,475
packet of the property? We do.

1689
02:10:04,635 --> 02:10:08,575
I just, just wanna make it, I saw it knowing that mckinney avenue is,

1690
02:10:09,295 --> 02:10:12,785
is, uh, the only improved street there. This

1691
02:10:13,355 --> 02:10:16,195
property front's on boyden plank road.

1692
02:10:17,465 --> 02:10:20,915
it's on the east side. Uh, all of these streets, this, uh, randolph

1693
02:10:21,475 --> 02:10:25,055
avenue, third street, all of the other streets are unimproved. Um,

1694
02:10:25,535 --> 02:10:29,075
it basically, it's a subdivision that was never developed. Mm-hmm . The alleyway

1695
02:10:29,775 --> 02:10:33,625
is, is not there. That's right. Right there. There's not much, much, not

1696
02:10:33,845 --> 02:10:36,985
much that, that can be done with the alley. So, um,

1697
02:10:38,605 --> 02:10:41,945
I don't know if there's some history behind everything. It was created in,

1698
02:10:42,745 --> 02:10:46,685
uh, 1898. Uh, mr. Mckinney, this is just a portion

1699
02:10:46,845 --> 02:10:50,735
of it. Um, all of these lots, 50

1700
02:10:51,185 --> 02:10:54,145
by a hundred, a lot of 'em are. Um, and

1701
02:10:55,225 --> 02:10:58,925
so all we're trying to do is consolidate those lots and put 'em together to get a one

1702
02:10:59,245 --> 02:11:03,185
building lot out of it. So, anyway, any

1703
02:11:03,605 --> 02:11:06,365
questions? Questions at this time?

1704
02:11:07,675 --> 02:11:11,365
okay. We might get you to come back up after to, um, public hearing.

1705
02:11:11,715 --> 02:11:15,645
sure. And the owner is here. He is got building plans if you, if you wanna see what

1706
02:11:15,805 --> 02:11:19,605
type of house he, okay. Um, at this time

1707
02:11:20,385 --> 02:11:23,545
I'm gonna open the public hearing. Do we have anyone signed up?

1708
02:11:24,425 --> 02:11:26,995
yes, mr. Chairman, we have connie bress ine. Okay.

1709
02:11:44,435 --> 02:11:48,045
good afternoon or evening to everyone. Um, I've now been to one of these,

1710
02:11:48,905 --> 02:11:52,745
the, I've never been to one of these before, but

1711
02:11:53,085 --> 02:11:56,875
I would like to respectfully request or move that this

1712
02:11:57,165 --> 02:12:00,325
request be, be tabled until the next meeting, because

1713
02:12:01,315 --> 02:12:04,715
this land that you guys are saying that this person can have

1714
02:12:05,435 --> 02:12:09,225
belongs to my family, and it's not an alley and

1715
02:12:09,445 --> 02:12:13,125
it's not anything that can be consolidated because my grandfather,

1716
02:12:14,145 --> 02:12:17,745
um, my, my fa mother is 90 years old

1717
02:12:18,305 --> 02:12:22,085
and they moved here when she was 12 years old. And we have

1718
02:12:22,385 --> 02:12:26,345
ridden horses and motorcycles and everything through there, and

1719
02:12:26,585 --> 02:12:30,255
we pay taxes on these paper alleys that don't

1720
02:12:30,605 --> 02:12:34,245
exist. So, for all of our lives, we've paid taxes on these paper

1721
02:12:34,785 --> 02:12:38,435
alleys and, um, they don't exist. They're

1722
02:12:38,925 --> 02:12:42,305
our land. They're our timber. And, um,

1723
02:12:43,965 --> 02:12:47,885
I have not had an opportunity to speak with mr. South hall or anything.

1724
02:12:48,125 --> 02:12:51,285
I spoke with mark this afternoon because I didn't,

1725
02:12:52,305 --> 02:12:56,195
uh, understand what was going on. I can understand that, that,

1726
02:12:56,665 --> 02:13:00,605
um, the person that bought that little spot in the

1727
02:13:00,765 --> 02:13:04,655
middle of our 165 acres, uh, needs

1728
02:13:05,065 --> 02:13:08,245
an easement. But I live on property in north

1729
02:13:09,445 --> 02:13:13,325
denwitty and I, we had to buy our easement to be

1730
02:13:13,485 --> 02:13:17,155
able to get to our landlocked piece of land. And there's

1731
02:13:17,645 --> 02:13:21,525
another house back there, and that person has to

1732
02:13:21,685 --> 02:13:25,545
pay easement to two of us to get to his land. And

1733
02:13:25,785 --> 02:13:29,745
so I'm now 65, and we've been, my

1734
02:13:29,965 --> 02:13:33,745
grandfather has a gas station. Jim carnes owns it now. And, um,

1735
02:13:36,405 --> 02:13:39,995
I, I feel like that in 2017 when, um, this,

1736
02:13:40,425 --> 02:13:44,245
um, this map was compiled from bits and pieces and things

1737
02:13:44,835 --> 02:13:48,765
from the nine, early 19 hundreds when three guys got together

1738
02:13:48,865 --> 02:13:52,805
and decided they want to make dewitt into a village, uh, a

1739
02:13:52,925 --> 02:13:56,665
township, so that the train that the purpose of it was

1740
02:13:56,985 --> 02:14:00,605
so that the train station could be built at dewitt and you would,

1741
02:14:01,305 --> 02:14:05,085
um, catch the train at dewitt, but mckinney became

1742
02:14:05,365 --> 02:14:08,785
the township and the train station was built at

1743
02:14:09,725 --> 02:14:13,605
mckinney. So you can't have two train stations, two train depots, five

1744
02:14:13,885 --> 02:14:17,545
miles apart from one another. But, um,

1745
02:14:18,025 --> 02:14:21,945
as I said, and I don't wanna repeat myself, my

1746
02:14:22,165 --> 02:14:25,265
mother is 90 years old and they moved here when she was 12.

1747
02:14:26,665 --> 02:14:30,525
and we've owned that land, it's been in our family, and we've paid

1748
02:14:30,725 --> 02:14:34,585
taxes on it since she was 12 years old. And now,

1749
02:14:35,395 --> 02:14:38,775
because this person bought this little piece of land in the middle there,

1750
02:14:40,345 --> 02:14:44,275
all of those pieces of our acres that

1751
02:14:44,565 --> 02:14:48,405
we pay taxes on, and by the way, all of that

1752
02:14:48,635 --> 02:14:52,425
land there is farm use, land use that's in the land use,

1753
02:14:52,945 --> 02:14:55,625
and that's how we pay taxes on it. Um,

1754
02:14:57,205 --> 02:15:01,085
I just don't see how someone can come up and say, oh, well, you know,

1755
02:15:01,345 --> 02:15:05,315
that's a paper alley, so we want the county to vacate it because

1756
02:15:05,905 --> 02:15:09,885
we want that land so we can build a house because the little teeny tiny piece

1757
02:15:10,205 --> 02:15:13,765
of land that's there does not meet building requirements

1758
02:15:14,585 --> 02:15:18,565
for di witty county for putting a, a structure on a piece of land. It has to

1759
02:15:18,645 --> 02:15:22,175
be bigger than that. So I just would like to, again,

1760
02:15:23,005 --> 02:15:26,905
I move that this be tabled until the next meeting, please.

1761
02:15:27,865 --> 02:15:31,555
so that I can have a, my family can have an opportunity to speak. Mark

1762
02:15:31,875 --> 02:15:35,685
said I need to talk to tyler. So, um, mr. Alfa.

1763
02:15:35,885 --> 02:15:39,745
sorry, tyler. So anyway, uh, so that's what I would like to have a opportunity to

1764
02:15:39,965 --> 02:15:43,745
do, to give me this month to find out exactly what's

1765
02:15:44,165 --> 02:15:47,435
going on. I mean, legally

1766
02:15:49,225 --> 02:15:53,165
the map that you use to do something like this has to be less than 25 years

1767
02:15:53,585 --> 02:15:57,445
old. And the map that you guys, whoever's using this, the map that

1768
02:15:57,685 --> 02:16:01,005
was shown, those are bits and pieces that were put together from like

1769
02:16:02,165 --> 02:16:05,585
18, 18 98. I think the gentleman before me said that, um,

1770
02:16:06,305 --> 02:16:10,165
you know, there were no alleys there and it was created in the late

1771
02:16:10,845 --> 02:16:14,565
18, it was in the early 19 hundreds. So, I mean, if you look at that

1772
02:16:14,915 --> 02:16:18,705
plot and you go up there and you look what hundred glass lives and where bot

1773
02:16:19,165 --> 02:16:22,665
memorial is, I can promise you that there is no, um, active,

1774
02:16:23,585 --> 02:16:27,525
um, park across the street because that was a plan that was

1775
02:16:27,725 --> 02:16:30,915
made in like 1920 and it never came to pass.

1776
02:16:31,865 --> 02:16:35,245
so I, I feel like that we need more time to understand

1777
02:16:36,065 --> 02:16:39,905
why it would be okay for you guys to vacate alleys

1778
02:16:40,325 --> 02:16:44,045
that don't, that don't exist, so that someone else can have,

1779
02:16:44,705 --> 02:16:48,685
um, a acre or two of our, our land that we pay taxes

1780
02:16:49,225 --> 02:16:53,125
on. So I guess, dan, you have to say, I, I

1781
02:16:53,245 --> 02:16:57,065
move that it be tabled, please. So I can understand more. My

1782
02:16:57,285 --> 02:17:01,215
family can understand why. Okay. Thank

1783
02:17:01,565 --> 02:17:05,405
you. Um, and, and we're gonna discuss it, I said

1784
02:17:07,065 --> 02:17:10,805
as we move forward. So thank you. So you'll let us,

1785
02:17:11,105 --> 02:17:14,965
let us know what's going on. Well stay here. We're going to, yeah. We'll gonna, we'll make sure

1786
02:17:15,985 --> 02:17:19,445
we, we're going to get to it as soon as we get through with public comment.

1787
02:17:20,475 --> 02:17:24,285
okay. I hope you understand what I'm saying. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

1788
02:17:24,905 --> 02:17:28,405
all right. Thank you. Respectfully, everyone, thank you so much for listening.

1789
02:17:29,225 --> 02:17:33,165
yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Do we have anyone, mr. Chairman? I have no one else signed up.

1790
02:17:33,835 --> 02:17:37,765
okay. Um, would the applicant

1791
02:17:38,125 --> 02:17:41,045
like to come back and, and say anything?

1792
02:17:44,595 --> 02:17:47,575
so there's quite a few people that own parcels in that

1793
02:17:49,005 --> 02:17:51,355
what was supposed to be a neighborhood. Um,

1794
02:17:53,575 --> 02:17:57,525
there are those, the houses that are on mckinney avenue, those were

1795
02:17:57,765 --> 02:18:01,645
part of this subdivision. They're, they're owned by other people also. So I just wanna

1796
02:18:01,805 --> 02:18:05,155
put that out there. The main thing that we're concerned about is that

1797
02:18:05,865 --> 02:18:09,775
if the county will basically state

1798
02:18:10,125 --> 02:18:14,005
that they don't have rights to those areas, those alleys, the streets, I mean, they were

1799
02:18:14,255 --> 02:18:17,605
never conveyed. So if, if they weren't conveyed to the county,

1800
02:18:18,825 --> 02:18:22,795
and if you give up any right. That you have to it, then they can negotiate

1801
02:18:23,965 --> 02:18:27,905
whatever, whatever they need to do, whatever dealings they need. If they have a a, an

1802
02:18:28,125 --> 02:18:31,805
issue with that, they own it, then they can

1803
02:18:32,355 --> 02:18:36,315
come to my client and say that, you know, they own it and then they can determine

1804
02:18:36,925 --> 02:18:40,905
whether or not it's theirs or not. So, uh, we just are

1805
02:18:41,125 --> 02:18:44,805
looking as far as the county goes to, to get an idea from you all that,

1806
02:18:45,235 --> 02:18:49,105
that you don't, you don't own it. You, you don't have any, any

1807
02:18:49,325 --> 02:18:52,065
need for the, the alleyway ever. So that that's,

1808
02:18:53,485 --> 02:18:56,965
I mean, it's through this one strip of land mm-hmm . So we're not looking for the entire alley

1809
02:18:57,595 --> 02:19:00,545
through the whole subdivision to be done. So, um,

1810
02:19:02,365 --> 02:19:05,145
I just, they can take care of it on their own. Uh,

1811
02:19:06,825 --> 02:19:10,785
and, and I'm, and I apologize, I don't know the, the, the young lady's name that just spoke, but,

1812
02:19:11,465 --> 02:19:15,365
but, but her and, and, uh, and, uh, mr. Williams here can, can discuss

1813
02:19:15,685 --> 02:19:19,475
that and see what they wanna do. We're just looking for the county's side

1814
02:19:19,765 --> 02:19:23,745
of it to, to be vacated, so. Okay. Any

1815
02:19:24,245 --> 02:19:27,675
questions? Um, of hampton? Hampton,

1816
02:19:29,065 --> 02:19:32,475
go ahead. Just, just a question as far as ownership currently,

1817
02:19:33,985 --> 02:19:37,875
who owns this parcel completely? Your client? He owns

1818
02:19:38,165 --> 02:19:41,715
everything. So, so when it's deeded it's deed as lots.

1819
02:19:42,515 --> 02:19:46,425
okay. It doesn't specify the, the, the

1820
02:19:46,645 --> 02:19:50,525
unimproved streets or the alleyways or anything like that. That's the, that's the whole reason

1821
02:19:50,725 --> 02:19:53,635
we're here. But it's part of your tax bill.

1822
02:19:54,745 --> 02:19:58,585
the alleyway? No, the alley, the alleyway. It

1823
02:19:58,805 --> 02:20:02,605
states in the deeds. So who, who actually is anybody paying taxes on the alley?

1824
02:20:02,865 --> 02:20:06,725
that's kind of what I'm trying to get at. Not here. I can't

1825
02:20:06,965 --> 02:20:10,925
answer that as far. They're paying for the lights just for the lots. Yeah. So if they're, if you

1826
02:20:11,325 --> 02:20:15,245
vacate the alley, I mean, they're not paying the taxes on it right now. Right. So if you

1827
02:20:15,485 --> 02:20:19,485
vacate on both sides of that. Yeah. Yeah. Their lights, our lights are on both sides,

1828
02:20:20,625 --> 02:20:24,385
so, okay. Well, we have lights, we have lots on both sides. Um, if please,

1829
02:20:24,865 --> 02:20:28,665
if, if, um, mr. Gordon's got the, the,

1830
02:20:29,065 --> 02:20:32,885
um, flooring, and so, uh, and we're gonna discuss it. We're gonna get

1831
02:20:33,085 --> 02:20:36,865
to the bottom of everything. Well, and I mean, the whole purpose of doing this is because they own, uh, mr. Williams

1832
02:20:37,475 --> 02:20:41,285
owns lots on both sides of the alley. Right. Just for this strip.

1833
02:20:41,835 --> 02:20:45,625
okay. Well, I'm not talking about the entire subdivision. I'm just talking about these, uh,

1834
02:20:46,735 --> 02:20:50,565
eight lights okay. On both sides of the alley. Alright. Yeah.

1835
02:20:50,765 --> 02:20:54,525
that's, that's all, that's the only section we're talking about. We're not talking about the rest of the subdivision.

1836
02:20:55,455 --> 02:20:59,145
thank you. Um, the, the

1837
02:20:59,485 --> 02:21:03,345
land behind these lots at face, right? One,

1838
02:21:04,145 --> 02:21:07,585
do the, I guess, do they have access points of access

1839
02:21:08,175 --> 02:21:11,385
other places other than right. One

1840
02:21:13,435 --> 02:21:17,185
meaning the, the lights that we're talking about tonight, right. Of ways, right of ways to,

1841
02:21:17,575 --> 02:21:21,565
there, there are strips, they're private roads. Oh, I I

1842
02:21:21,685 --> 02:21:25,165
say private roads, they're plaid strips, you know, that's all they're unimproved, but they're,

1843
02:21:26,105 --> 02:21:29,665
you know, they own property that touches route one.

1844
02:21:30,195 --> 02:21:33,955
okay. Mr. Williams owns property that fronts on route one. Right. Okay.

1845
02:21:34,865 --> 02:21:38,745
and, and as far as the unimproved streets, they don't own the unimproved streets, so

1846
02:21:38,965 --> 02:21:42,725
therefore, you know, as far as ownership of that, they're not claiming ownership

1847
02:21:43,245 --> 02:21:47,145
of that. Now, there is a house that's behind his property that's

1848
02:21:47,565 --> 02:21:51,305
on two lots, and the driveway runs through one of those, uh,

1849
02:21:51,755 --> 02:21:55,605
platted streets, and it goes back, uh, behind it.

1850
02:21:56,065 --> 02:21:57,325
so let's see. It's slide.

1851
02:22:01,905 --> 02:22:04,165
and that's got a deeded easement to it.

1852
02:22:06,305 --> 02:22:10,165
no, I didn't. No, no. It just follows that it follows randolph avenue.

1853
02:22:11,225 --> 02:22:13,605
it, can you put that back up please?

1854
02:22:19,025 --> 02:22:22,765
so I can't even see that. Um, yeah. Do you have it in your packet here?

1855
02:22:23,385 --> 02:22:26,945
we do, mm-hmm . So right under where it says route one,

1856
02:22:28,415 --> 02:22:32,005
right. Go elevator.

1857
02:22:32,955 --> 02:22:35,285
that right here? Mm-hmm . This is right.

1858
02:22:41,545 --> 02:22:45,135
that's randolph avenue that comes up running north

1859
02:22:46,585 --> 02:22:50,325
out to route one. There is a driveway there, there are two

1860
02:22:50,595 --> 02:22:54,585
parcels there. They would be lot nine and 10. I don't have 'em labeled there, but,

1861
02:22:54,825 --> 02:22:58,595
um, just below, just to the south of lot eight there, it's

1862
02:22:58,885 --> 02:23:02,085
nine and 10. There is an existing home on that, on those two lights.

1863
02:23:03,305 --> 02:23:07,185
and its driveway runs through randolph avenue out

1864
02:23:07,465 --> 02:23:10,235
to route one. Okay. Okay. Alright.

1865
02:23:12,705 --> 02:23:14,525
any other questions or anything?

1866
02:23:17,595 --> 02:23:18,805
pipe. Thank you.

1867
02:23:23,705 --> 02:23:26,335
all right. Um, any discussion?

1868
02:23:34,685 --> 02:23:38,315
I guess for me it's probably the, the concern that I have is at the 11th hour

1869
02:23:39,345 --> 02:23:43,205
we have an individual that comes forward and says, I,

1870
02:23:43,685 --> 02:23:47,645
I have a stake in this matter. And that's where, that's where my difficulty

1871
02:23:48,165 --> 02:23:51,725
comes into play. Um, that it, I don't know that it hurts

1872
02:23:53,345 --> 02:23:56,285
to take a little time and let mr. Southall

1873
02:23:57,555 --> 02:24:00,305
work with the two clients here to see

1874
02:24:01,575 --> 02:24:05,305
where we can go and then come back in 30 days from now. That's

1875
02:24:06,065 --> 02:24:09,105
my opinion. Yeah. Um,

1876
02:24:11,765 --> 02:24:15,755
I, I'd just like to say I'm, I'm the same. I don't think 30 days is gonna hurt

1877
02:24:16,245 --> 02:24:19,225
us. Um, uh, I would give, uh,

1878
02:24:21,265 --> 02:24:25,145
uh, connie and them time to, to meet with, uh,

1879
02:24:25,785 --> 02:24:29,475
mr. Sal. Um, if, if, if there's

1880
02:24:29,965 --> 02:24:33,745
any validity, um, then we find it out and, um,

1881
02:24:34,615 --> 02:24:37,845
let's just make the right decision, uh, with all the information.

1882
02:24:39,025 --> 02:24:42,425
um, at I, you know, we can

1883
02:24:43,215 --> 02:24:47,085
defer, um, for 30 days and we don't have to

1884
02:24:47,245 --> 02:24:50,705
have a public hearing. Isn't that correct in mr. Shaw?

1885
02:24:51,645 --> 02:24:55,645
I guess, what are our options moving forward? Well, so the public hearing's been open tonight.

1886
02:24:56,165 --> 02:25:00,125
I don't know that you officially closed the public hearing yet, but at, at the point when

1887
02:25:00,285 --> 02:25:03,445
you're ready to, um, you could close the public hearing tonight

1888
02:25:04,385 --> 02:25:08,165
and you, you could table it until the next meeting and you could decide it

1889
02:25:08,395 --> 02:25:11,925
then, um, or you could make a decision tonight.

1890
02:25:12,665 --> 02:25:16,485
um, I am, you know, I think the, the issue really that the board's

1891
02:25:16,885 --> 02:25:20,725
being asked tonight is to, to vacate, um, any public

1892
02:25:20,975 --> 02:25:24,095
right of way that may exist on that, that, you know, alley there.

1893
02:25:25,265 --> 02:25:29,125
um, you know, if there's a dispute about ownership, that's generally a, a civil

1894
02:25:29,345 --> 02:25:32,925
matter between the two landowners, I'm more than happy to talk to ms.

1895
02:25:33,555 --> 02:25:37,345
bine and, and hear all her concerns. And, um, and to do that as

1896
02:25:37,565 --> 02:25:41,525
well as to meet with, with mr. Gordon. And, and, um, and, and mr.

1897
02:25:42,045 --> 02:25:45,345
hinshaw and, um, and mr. Williams, um,

1898
02:25:46,265 --> 02:25:50,205
to, to, to hear any concerns that they may have. But it, you know, it, it wouldn't be my place to adjudicate

1899
02:25:50,605 --> 02:25:54,465
any private property dispute, but I, I'm happy to, to, to meet, to

1900
02:25:54,685 --> 02:25:58,605
meet with folks. Um, and, and, and it, it's, it's

1901
02:25:58,805 --> 02:26:02,165
at, at the pleasure of the board. You, you could continue it for 30 days or you could decide

1902
02:26:02,835 --> 02:26:06,645
tonight. I would suggest that if you do continue it for

1903
02:26:06,845 --> 02:26:10,705
30 days, you may want to close the public hearing tonight at, at

1904
02:26:10,925 --> 02:26:14,785
the point when everybody, you feel like everybody said everything that they need to say. Um,

1905
02:26:15,345 --> 02:26:19,285
and then at that point, you would not have to advertise or hold the public hearing next time as it's been

1906
02:26:19,405 --> 02:26:20,995
held tonight. Okay.

1907
02:26:26,725 --> 02:26:27,665
public hearing's closed,

1908
02:26:31,405 --> 02:26:35,385
um, discussion. What, what, what's the pleasure of the board?

1909
02:26:37,255 --> 02:26:41,015
I'll make the motion that it's tabled so that we can get clarification on, on the property ownership

1910
02:26:41,725 --> 02:26:45,555
and, and err on the side of caution. Okay. For

1911
02:26:45,755 --> 02:26:49,575
the, for the issues that's been raised. And I second that. Alright. May

1912
02:26:49,795 --> 02:26:53,775
I have a motion on the second? Uh, go. We have just mr.

1913
02:26:53,995 --> 02:26:57,695
south, are you okay with the table or continued to

1914
02:26:58,155 --> 02:27:01,875
continue? I, I think, I think what they mean when they say table is to

1915
02:27:02,275 --> 02:27:06,235
continue it to the next regular meeting. Is that mr. ? Is that yeah.

1916
02:27:06,575 --> 02:27:10,505
yes. That's my intent. And second. Okay. Continue it. Alright. Roll

1917
02:27:10,795 --> 02:27:14,785
call dr. Moore. Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra

1918
02:27:15,075 --> 02:27:18,855
bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting aye.

1919
02:27:19,495 --> 02:27:23,095
and ms. Brite, um, it,

1920
02:27:23,665 --> 02:27:27,425
it's incumbent on you to meet with, um, mr. Soha

1921
02:27:28,335 --> 02:27:32,115
and anything that you want done before next month? Because

1922
02:27:32,655 --> 02:27:36,485
if, if next month nothing has been done, we're going, we're

1923
02:27:36,835 --> 02:27:40,195
gonna make a decision, uh, we're gonna probably make a decision next month

1924
02:27:41,045 --> 02:27:44,955
we'll meet with, okay. See what's

1925
02:27:45,315 --> 02:27:46,915
going on. Alright. Thank you.

1926
02:27:49,565 --> 02:27:52,315
alright, we're gonna move, um,

1927
02:27:53,905 --> 02:27:57,895
along to b and it's conditional use permit

1928
02:27:58,845 --> 02:28:01,685
request case c dash 25 dash five.

1929
02:28:05,955 --> 02:28:07,935
and what's the,

1930
02:28:28,915 --> 02:28:32,905
okay. Thank you mr. Chair. Uh, the next case we're, um,

1931
02:28:33,155 --> 02:28:36,715
holding public hearing for this evening is c dash 25 dash five.

1932
02:28:37,785 --> 02:28:41,705
the applicant is, um, selco partnership, uh,

1933
02:28:41,925 --> 02:28:45,825
verizon wireless, uh, their agents here this evening to

1934
02:28:46,365 --> 02:28:50,165
represent the application as well. Uh, the request,

1935
02:28:50,825 --> 02:28:54,755
uh, for the conditional use permit is to construct 195 foot

1936
02:28:55,535 --> 02:28:59,445
steel mono pole wireless telecommunications tower, where

1937
02:28:59,765 --> 02:29:03,525
the four foot lightning rod again for verizon wireless.

1938
02:29:04,505 --> 02:29:08,365
um, just to note, there would be, uh, four additional broadband carriers

1939
02:29:09,395 --> 02:29:13,265
that would be allowed, um, through verizon wireless. Uh,

1940
02:29:13,505 --> 02:29:17,325
to locate on the subject, uh, monopole tower,

1941
02:29:18,985 --> 02:29:22,845
uh, the property as you can see is located on ezine road and church

1942
02:29:23,275 --> 02:29:27,145
road and it's approximately 7.4 acres in

1943
02:29:27,365 --> 02:29:30,955
size. The lease area would be, uh, 10,000 square feet.

1944
02:29:34,595 --> 02:29:38,515
uh, the site plan, uh, general site plan for the property, um,

1945
02:29:38,845 --> 02:29:42,375
they're be utilizing the existing entrance.

1946
02:29:42,955 --> 02:29:46,295
uh, that's for the, uh, subject property currently

1947
02:29:47,315 --> 02:29:50,935
for the subject residence on the property. And again, they would be,

1948
02:29:51,355 --> 02:29:54,205
um, going into the property and then heading,

1949
02:29:55,395 --> 02:29:59,085
uh, northwest, uh, to the proposed tower site.

1950
02:30:01,995 --> 02:30:05,355
uh, all the, uh, the parcel,

1951
02:30:06,155 --> 02:30:10,115
uh, of course has agricultural forestal uses and

1952
02:30:10,355 --> 02:30:13,735
of course the existing residence. Uh, the adjoining properties

1953
02:30:14,515 --> 02:30:18,415
on the west side of nagine road are all zoned a two

1954
02:30:18,735 --> 02:30:22,355
agricultural general. And the properties, uh, across

1955
02:30:23,035 --> 02:30:26,695
nagine road are all zoned are our residential conservative.

1956
02:30:29,835 --> 02:30:33,775
uh, of course the dimity county zoning ordinance does allow for the location

1957
02:30:34,035 --> 02:30:37,575
of the proposed use, uh, communications tower with station

1958
02:30:38,315 --> 02:30:41,935
within the a two agricultural general zoning district.

1959
02:30:42,675 --> 02:30:46,615
and, uh, as long as a conditional use permit is approved for the

1960
02:30:46,905 --> 02:30:49,995
tower, uh, there are, um,

1961
02:30:51,375 --> 02:30:54,515
requirements within the ordinance, uh,

1962
02:30:55,445 --> 02:30:59,045
that, uh, the board is to review, um, when

1963
02:30:59,815 --> 02:31:03,735
locating a telecommunications tower. And I'll just briefly

1964
02:31:04,035 --> 02:31:07,955
go through those. Um, a to encourage the location of

1965
02:31:08,215 --> 02:31:11,475
antenna and towers in areas where the adverse impact

1966
02:31:12,235 --> 02:31:16,015
on the community is minimal. B, to accommodate wireless

1967
02:31:16,355 --> 02:31:20,205
telecommunication services to county residences, businesses

1968
02:31:20,945 --> 02:31:24,725
and travelers, c strongly encourage the coal lake

1969
02:31:25,405 --> 02:31:28,305
location of telecommunication equipment on existing towers

1970
02:31:29,525 --> 02:31:32,885
d to maximize the use of existing structures. E

1971
02:31:33,595 --> 02:31:37,545
make available public property to facilitate the deployment of

1972
02:31:38,085 --> 02:31:41,765
wireless telecommunications facilities. F minimize

1973
02:31:42,155 --> 02:31:45,905
adverse visual impacts effects of wireless telecommunication

1974
02:31:46,815 --> 02:31:50,325
facilities through careful sighting and design and g

1975
02:31:51,205 --> 02:31:54,045
minimize adverse impacts on the natural scenic, environmental,

1976
02:31:55,525 --> 02:31:58,325
historic, cultural and recreational resources of the county.

1977
02:32:00,145 --> 02:32:03,285
uh, as previously noted, the applicant did explore opportunities

1978
02:32:04,345 --> 02:32:08,075
for co-locating on the existing towers in the general area,

1979
02:32:09,025 --> 02:32:12,585
but co-locating on these towers does not achieve the

1980
02:32:13,085 --> 02:32:15,845
coverage goals, uh, for that portion of the county.

1981
02:32:17,385 --> 02:32:21,125
the a applicant's plan does comply with all federal, state, and local

1982
02:32:21,515 --> 02:32:25,445
regulations regarding providing future co-location of equipment

1983
02:32:26,065 --> 02:32:29,795
on the existing telecommunications tower and equipment site.

1984
02:32:31,835 --> 02:32:35,125
it's the applicant's intent to develop telecommunication network

1985
02:32:35,905 --> 02:32:38,815
within the framework established by the above stated goals.

1986
02:32:40,205 --> 02:32:43,535
additionally, there will be no impact on the subject in adjacent properties

1987
02:32:44,655 --> 02:32:47,845
concerning by right or agricultural forestal and residential

1988
02:32:48,675 --> 02:32:52,215
uses, um, outside of the compound area. Those

1989
02:32:52,755 --> 02:32:56,065
uses will be able to continue, um, on,

1990
02:32:58,465 --> 02:33:02,225
um, looking at zoning ordinance requirements. Uh, mainly the

1991
02:33:02,645 --> 02:33:06,405
setbacks you can see on the subject site plan that

1992
02:33:06,685 --> 02:33:10,645
they meet all the required setbacks. Um, all antennas

1993
02:33:11,205 --> 02:33:15,085
support structures must be set back 110% of the height of the

1994
02:33:15,405 --> 02:33:18,645
structure from all property lines. They meet that they're 219

1995
02:33:19,675 --> 02:33:23,425
feet at closest to any property line. And the

1996
02:33:23,805 --> 02:33:27,585
proposed location of the tower does meet, uh, uh,

1997
02:33:27,825 --> 02:33:31,825
the setback, uh, that's required, uh, for, um,

1998
02:33:33,845 --> 02:33:35,325
a dv abutting property.

1999
02:33:38,195 --> 02:33:41,995
also looking at residential structures, uh, this,

2000
02:33:42,585 --> 02:33:46,445
the towers to be set back 200% of the height of

2001
02:33:47,155 --> 02:33:50,765
antenna on the tower to the nearest residential structures

2002
02:33:51,945 --> 02:33:55,785
and, uh, cannot be less than 400 feet. Um,

2003
02:33:56,305 --> 02:34:00,185
and this tower is cited 401 feet from the, uh,

2004
02:34:00,405 --> 02:34:04,325
closest residential structure, which is actually the property

2005
02:34:04,515 --> 02:34:05,085
owner's dwelling.

2006
02:34:09,825 --> 02:34:13,405
um, land development committee, uh, reviewed the subject

2007
02:34:13,935 --> 02:34:17,825
tower and the land development committee did not have any, uh,

2008
02:34:18,325 --> 02:34:21,825
comments related to it. And, uh, were in support of

2009
02:34:22,565 --> 02:34:24,805
locating the tower on the subject. Property.

2010
02:34:27,505 --> 02:34:31,345
uh, planning staff has reviewed the conditional use permit request and

2011
02:34:31,565 --> 02:34:35,325
is satisfied that with appropriate conditions, the impacts of the

2012
02:34:35,685 --> 02:34:38,805
proposed wireless telecommunications tower are addressed.

2013
02:34:39,985 --> 02:34:43,985
and the issuance of the permit would be in compliance with the intent, purpose, and

2014
02:34:44,205 --> 02:34:47,325
design of chapter 22. The zoning ordinance,

2015
02:34:48,805 --> 02:34:52,805
specifically section 22 dash two staff has reviewed

2016
02:34:52,945 --> 02:34:56,445
the conditional use permit and, um, is recommending

2017
02:34:57,605 --> 02:35:00,695
approval of the tower, uh, with, uh, certain conditions.

2018
02:35:02,265 --> 02:35:06,085
and I'll go over those, uh, conditions. The applicant

2019
02:35:06,445 --> 02:35:10,205
shall limit the height of the height and type of the tower, uh, to 199

2020
02:35:11,325 --> 02:35:15,275
foot monopole tower. And, um, with

2021
02:35:15,585 --> 02:35:19,065
the subject lease area, the wireless telecommunication

2022
02:35:19,925 --> 02:35:23,715
tower facility owner shall, um, negotiate

2023
02:35:24,325 --> 02:35:27,945
in good faith, uh, with the county, uh, to,

2024
02:35:28,945 --> 02:35:32,715
uh, locate broadband or other equipment on like

2025
02:35:33,365 --> 02:35:37,085
services, uh, to third parties. The monopole

2026
02:35:37,605 --> 02:35:40,755
tower shall be engineered to accommodate five wireless broadband

2027
02:35:41,645 --> 02:35:45,485
providers and their equipment. And the monopole tower

2028
02:35:45,995 --> 02:35:49,445
will be in compliance with the attached site plan that

2029
02:35:50,025 --> 02:35:53,945
we have on the slide this evening. Um, ensuring that they meet all

2030
02:35:54,165 --> 02:35:57,805
of the ordinance required setbacks and the conditional

2031
02:35:58,265 --> 02:36:01,885
use permit shall be reviewed at least every two years for compliance

2032
02:36:02,595 --> 02:36:06,165
with the subject conditions and the zoning ordinance requirements.

2033
02:36:07,865 --> 02:36:11,605
and the applicant shall maintain compliance with all federal, state, and county

2034
02:36:11,935 --> 02:36:15,225
rules and regulations related to the wireless telecommunication

2035
02:36:16,655 --> 02:36:17,825
tower facility use.

2036
02:36:21,705 --> 02:36:25,245
uh, the planning commission at their uh, july meeting

2037
02:36:25,905 --> 02:36:29,695
did recommend approval of the tower, uh, with the subject conditions,

2038
02:36:31,425 --> 02:36:35,365
uh, uh, with the exception

2039
02:36:36,025 --> 02:36:39,945
of the planning commission. Did recommend, uh, deleting, uh,

2040
02:36:40,265 --> 02:36:43,305
one of the conditions that I, that I went over, um,

2041
02:36:44,675 --> 02:36:47,945
that condition being, um, in the

2042
02:36:48,935 --> 02:36:52,845
staff report that would be, uh, uh, condition

2043
02:36:53,465 --> 02:36:57,235
two where the, um, the county cannot require,

2044
02:36:58,425 --> 02:37:02,345
uh, that the applicant, uh, per, um,

2045
02:37:03,205 --> 02:37:07,125
virginia code cannot require that the applicant, uh, lease space

2046
02:37:07,545 --> 02:37:11,075
to the county on that tower. Um, and therefore

2047
02:37:11,795 --> 02:37:15,765
they, uh, by code, uh, we can't require that. So they recommended

2048
02:37:17,045 --> 02:37:20,965
removing that condition so that the planning commission recommended conditions,

2049
02:37:21,865 --> 02:37:25,705
um, that condition is, is removed. And again, the

2050
02:37:26,165 --> 02:37:29,805
planning commission did recommend, uh, approval of the tower with the conditions.

2051
02:37:32,145 --> 02:37:35,965
be glad to answer any questions. Mr. Bassett, the condition that

2052
02:37:36,165 --> 02:37:40,085
was removed, and maybe I'm confused here, but was that about a bond for the, the tower being

2053
02:37:40,405 --> 02:37:44,345
placed there at the pc? You're,

2054
02:37:44,765 --> 02:37:48,645
you're referring to a condition number two and I think there was something on there about county yes, possibly co-locating?

2055
02:37:49,625 --> 02:37:53,565
yes. I think maybe that's the new condition number two. Yes. Yes. And I, I think the applicant

2056
02:37:53,945 --> 02:37:57,685
had said that they don't believe state law allows for that. And I think it was

2057
02:37:58,305 --> 02:38:02,285
for the bonding requirement. Yes, I I that's correct. I think there may be is a

2058
02:38:02,405 --> 02:38:06,325
case that could be made to the contrary, but in light of the county's other cases, I think the

2059
02:38:06,485 --> 02:38:10,245
county decided to acquiesce, um, to, to what the applicant was saying there.

2060
02:38:11,145 --> 02:38:14,725
yes, that's correct. I'm sorry. Thanks for clarifying that.

2061
02:38:15,155 --> 02:38:18,045
okay. Questions.

2062
02:38:20,435 --> 02:38:21,365
alright, thank you. Mark.

2063
02:38:24,575 --> 02:38:26,805
would the applicant like to come full with for representative?

2064
02:38:45,155 --> 02:38:48,945
good evening chairman lee, members of the board. Uh, for

2065
02:38:49,165 --> 02:38:52,425
the record, my name's steve roman. I'm local attorney on behalf of

2066
02:38:53,195 --> 02:38:56,205
verizon wireless on matter cupc 25 5.

2067
02:38:58,865 --> 02:39:02,525
um, I have with me tonight sean kai, who site development

2068
02:39:03,005 --> 02:39:06,325
manager as well, who can answer questions if I cannot.

2069
02:39:07,465 --> 02:39:11,465
um, I'm going to be brief and try not to duplicate, uh, mark's

2070
02:39:11,885 --> 02:39:15,875
presentation. We do have a short powerpoint. Want to thank mr. Bassett

2071
02:39:16,705 --> 02:39:20,665
for his comments. Uh, so hopefully I can work this, uh,

2072
02:39:21,455 --> 02:39:25,405
powerpoint. There we go. Good. So on your screen you'll see the location

2073
02:39:26,185 --> 02:39:28,825
of the site. Um, it is at 1 4 3 2 5

2074
02:39:30,545 --> 02:39:34,385
nam ezine road. Uh, you'll see it's, uh,

2075
02:39:34,985 --> 02:39:38,905
the parcel fronts the road. You also note that it's heavily wooded to

2076
02:39:39,125 --> 02:39:42,975
the rear portion of the parcel. The parcel's about seven and a half, seven and a half acres.

2077
02:39:44,145 --> 02:39:47,565
and the, uh, little yellow dot there is the proposed location

2078
02:39:48,305 --> 02:39:52,045
of the compound. Um, you'll see the access road that comes

2079
02:39:52,355 --> 02:39:56,245
into the right of, of the screen there and it we'll be using that road,

2080
02:39:56,905 --> 02:39:58,565
uh, to access the property.

2081
02:40:01,985 --> 02:40:05,745
um, so I mentioned seven and half acres zoned a two. Um,

2082
02:40:06,505 --> 02:40:09,325
the cup was required for communication tower with the station.

2083
02:40:10,795 --> 02:40:14,625
this slide shows that we meet all setbacks as noted, uh, by

2084
02:40:14,985 --> 02:40:18,765
mr. Bassett. I'm gonna go through this pretty quickly 'cause some of this is repetitive.

2085
02:40:19,785 --> 02:40:22,165
um, here's the compound plan 60 by forty five, a hundred ninety nine

2086
02:40:24,445 --> 02:40:28,365
foot tower monopole construction at 1 99. There's no requirements

2087
02:40:28,885 --> 02:40:32,525
for lighting the actual facility be 1 95 with a four foot antenna.

2088
02:40:33,695 --> 02:40:37,485
it'll be built strong enough to provide

2089
02:40:37,805 --> 02:40:41,485
for four additional colocators, which is required, uh, by the county as well.

2090
02:40:42,945 --> 02:40:46,595
um, moving right along. Um, here's the screening. Um, this

2091
02:40:47,165 --> 02:40:51,145
modifies your landscaping a little bit. We have screening on the front and the side because in

2092
02:40:51,365 --> 02:40:55,285
the rear, as you noted on the earlier pictures, all heavily tree heavy trees. So we

2093
02:40:55,405 --> 02:40:59,405
want to take down trees to plant new trees. So that's, that's a little bit of

2094
02:40:59,525 --> 02:41:03,445
a modification. Um, here's a profile on the tower

2095
02:41:04,015 --> 02:41:07,855
again, monopole, uh, galvanized steel, uh, no lights required fence

2096
02:41:08,325 --> 02:41:12,145
count compound. This is a quick, uh, overview of the

2097
02:41:12,365 --> 02:41:16,345
red circle. There is where our site will be located. Uh, to the north is

2098
02:41:16,565 --> 02:41:20,555
a green circle. That is a county tower. We're already on that. The other two yellow circles

2099
02:41:21,065 --> 02:41:25,005
are proposed to other locations. So we're trying to fill a gap for the county

2100
02:41:25,355 --> 02:41:28,315
here to provide coverage along ine road.

2101
02:41:29,385 --> 02:41:33,325
um, so this is much needed. Real quick overview. Uh, today

2102
02:41:33,645 --> 02:41:37,625
71% of adults, 82% of children only have wireless phones. People

2103
02:41:38,065 --> 02:41:41,845
are no longer having landlines. 77% of all nine 11 calls

2104
02:41:42,715 --> 02:41:46,115
come from a land, uh, uh, wireless phone. And, uh, amazingly,

2105
02:41:46,905 --> 02:41:49,405
uh, wireless devices per household. There's like 25

2106
02:41:51,085 --> 02:41:54,725
wireless devices, people have multiple devices. Uh, we conducted

2107
02:41:55,125 --> 02:41:58,955
a balloon test and you'll see from this quick slide, uh, the site

2108
02:41:59,265 --> 02:42:03,125
was only visible from these three locations that are in pink and scrolling

2109
02:42:03,685 --> 02:42:07,425
through there. This one here, you can see it, um, from an

2110
02:42:07,845 --> 02:42:11,705
zaine road, probably the most visible spot right there. And

2111
02:42:11,925 --> 02:42:15,045
the next two, you'll see them see the tower on the horizon,

2112
02:42:15,945 --> 02:42:18,745
uh, barely visible. Um,

2113
02:42:20,225 --> 02:42:23,705
so very quickly I ran through that fast. But, um, I would ask, um,

2114
02:42:24,555 --> 02:42:28,215
that, uh, you approve c 25 5. We have staff

2115
02:42:28,875 --> 02:42:32,605
support, we have planning commu, uh, commission recommendation for

2116
02:42:33,005 --> 02:42:37,005
approval. The conditions are acceptable with the, uh, change out of

2117
02:42:37,165 --> 02:42:39,805
condition two as mentioned earlier, to remove the bonding requirement.

2118
02:42:41,265 --> 02:42:44,605
and, um, I'll stand by for questions. Thank you for your time.

2119
02:42:45,665 --> 02:42:49,605
any questions right now? Okay, I'd like, I'd like to

2120
02:42:49,765 --> 02:42:53,395
get you back up, out to public comment. Sure. Call. Thank you sir. Yep. Okay.

2121
02:42:56,435 --> 02:42:58,745
open public comment. Do we have anyone signed up?

2122
02:43:00,695 --> 02:43:04,515
um, I have mr. Roma signed up. That was all I had signed up.

2123
02:43:05,385 --> 02:43:09,355
okay. Alright. Um, yeah, if I could get you to come back

2124
02:43:09,555 --> 02:43:12,605
up. Sure. Any questions from anyone?

2125
02:43:14,315 --> 02:43:18,165
alright, I guess, um, couple of questions.

2126
02:43:18,825 --> 02:43:22,665
the, um, tower that, the last tower that we approved in

2127
02:43:22,885 --> 02:43:26,405
sutherland, is that actually operational now for verizon?

2128
02:43:27,185 --> 02:43:31,045
yes. Could I call up, uh, my site development manager? 'cause I'm, I, I do not know.

2129
02:43:31,585 --> 02:43:32,845
yep. Sean, you wanna come up?

2130
02:43:36,625 --> 02:43:40,465
go ahead and introduce yourself. Uh, I'm sean hai. Hang, hang on one

2131
02:43:40,685 --> 02:43:44,505
second. I'm going, um, close the public hearing in part and

2132
02:43:44,985 --> 02:43:48,645
now we'll go with questions. Sorry about that. Go ahead. I'm sean

2133
02:43:49,085 --> 02:43:53,085
hai with verizon and bci, the southern and tarot is on air. Should be on

2134
02:43:53,165 --> 02:43:56,585
air soon, so it's okay. Okay. Alright. And then, um,

2135
02:43:57,755 --> 02:44:01,525
your coverage plan, um, and, and this is while I got your attention.

2136
02:44:02,185 --> 02:44:06,125
um, we've, you've got a coverage plan for verizon

2137
02:44:06,825 --> 02:44:10,235
for, for the whole of denwoody county? Yes we do. Okay.

2138
02:44:10,985 --> 02:44:14,205
um, is that, uh, a public document?

2139
02:44:15,105 --> 02:44:18,645
uh, I can't share, we can't, by law we're not allowed to share the r propagations

2140
02:44:19,555 --> 02:44:23,445
maps because other competitors can, can get it. But we can give you a pretty close

2141
02:44:23,865 --> 02:44:27,785
to idea of what, you know, were missing areas, but just from a person that has

2142
02:44:28,025 --> 02:44:31,845
to, um, go out on his porch to talk on his cell phone,

2143
02:44:32,465 --> 02:44:35,785
the plan ain't working. Um, and um,

2144
02:44:36,665 --> 02:44:40,245
you know, I know you're trying to fill a gap on the

2145
02:44:40,745 --> 02:44:44,425
amelia then whi line. Um, but

2146
02:44:44,905 --> 02:44:48,165
almost the village of denwitty has trouble with cell service.

2147
02:44:49,185 --> 02:44:53,005
um, and probably, I'm not gonna show hands 'cause I don't want to do that,

2148
02:44:53,345 --> 02:44:57,025
but, um, cell phone service in denwoody county is not

2149
02:44:57,875 --> 02:45:01,765
very good. Um, we have plans to take care of all that rest for the rest of this

2150
02:45:01,885 --> 02:45:05,775
year. We'll be coming forward to you in the next couple months, every month if you can do it. We'll

2151
02:45:06,125 --> 02:45:10,105
dig your best friend. Thank you, sir. Ms. Lee, can

2152
02:45:10,325 --> 02:45:14,145
I, before he goes back, can I ask sean, sean, is

2153
02:45:14,365 --> 02:45:18,325
there equipment on that tower in southern? There are people in this room that are waiting

2154
02:45:18,745 --> 02:45:22,445
for that tower to go active. Hopefully we'll get that on within the next 30 days.

2155
02:45:22,865 --> 02:45:26,565
the next 30 days. So you're putting equipment on the tower now? Yes, sir.

2156
02:45:26,875 --> 02:45:28,925
okay. Thank you sir. Just wanted to make sure.

2157
02:45:31,045 --> 02:45:35,035
thank you for support. And I guess, how quickly is this tower gonna be built

2158
02:45:35,415 --> 02:45:39,295
and electrified? What? That, that's a full to

2159
02:45:39,715 --> 02:45:43,695
what's a word? Unru when within six

2160
02:45:43,915 --> 02:45:47,835
months on air. Six months. Okay. On air. We'll have a

2161
02:45:47,955 --> 02:45:51,905
bill before then, but six months on air. Alright. Okay.

2162
02:45:52,655 --> 02:45:56,565
any other questions? Alright, thank you. Thank you. Thank

2163
02:45:56,915 --> 02:45:59,315
you. Six months.

2164
02:46:01,105 --> 02:46:05,025
alright, what

2165
02:46:05,315 --> 02:46:09,305
you pledge? Alright, I'll read be

2166
02:46:09,725 --> 02:46:13,405
resolved that in order to assure compliance with the virginia code section 15.2 dash 2286

2167
02:46:14,845 --> 02:46:18,745
a seven. It's stated that the public purpose for which the resolution is initiated is

2168
02:46:18,965 --> 02:46:22,945
to fulfill the requirements of public necessity, convenience, general welfare, and

2169
02:46:23,165 --> 02:46:26,645
good zoning practice. I move that the conditional use permit c dash 25

2170
02:46:27,325 --> 02:46:30,765
dash five as presented be approved with the conditions by the board of supervisors.

2171
02:46:32,225 --> 02:46:35,565
we have a second. Second. Can we have the roll call please?

2172
02:46:36,345 --> 02:46:40,145
dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr.

2173
02:46:40,465 --> 02:46:44,445
dooley? Aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye. Alright, thank you.

2174
02:46:53,105 --> 02:46:57,085
all right. We're gonna move along, uh, to rezoning request p dash

2175
02:46:57,325 --> 02:47:00,605
25 dash eight flowers solar, llc,

2176
02:47:02,225 --> 02:47:06,135
mr. Best. Thank

2177
02:47:06,485 --> 02:47:10,305
you mr. Chair. Uh, flower

2178
02:47:10,775 --> 02:47:14,745
solar, llc is the applicant. And just for

2179
02:47:15,225 --> 02:47:19,165
the public's information, uh, flowers, llc is owned

2180
02:47:19,465 --> 02:47:21,925
by green volt power actualize, llc.

2181
02:47:24,145 --> 02:47:28,105
uh, the subject property that we're looking at this evening, um, is

2182
02:47:28,325 --> 02:47:31,945
currently zoned a two agricultural and there is

2183
02:47:32,365 --> 02:47:36,265
a portion of the property, uh, in the center just north of the,

2184
02:47:37,265 --> 02:47:41,245
uh, railroad tracks, uh, that is zoned m two industrial

2185
02:47:41,955 --> 02:47:45,735
general. So the property is technically, uh, split

2186
02:47:46,115 --> 02:47:49,565
zone. The request this evening is to rezone the subject

2187
02:47:50,285 --> 02:47:54,055
property to the sed district. That's our utility scale solar

2188
02:47:54,505 --> 02:47:58,445
energy district. And the size of the property is 196

2189
02:47:59,695 --> 02:47:59,695
acres.

2190
02:48:04,545 --> 02:48:08,325
um, the subject slide that we have above everything highlighted

2191
02:48:09,625 --> 02:48:13,505
in blue is where the, um, if the, uh,

2192
02:48:13,865 --> 02:48:17,545
applic application is approved, um, the, all the

2193
02:48:18,275 --> 02:48:22,045
area in blue would be where the solar panels would

2194
02:48:22,365 --> 02:48:26,185
be located on the subject property. Um,

2195
02:48:26,545 --> 02:48:30,465
in our comprehensive plan, uh, the project is also, uh,

2196
02:48:30,835 --> 02:48:34,405
divided into two, um, areas within our comprehensive

2197
02:48:35,235 --> 02:48:39,035
plan for, um, planned our planned growth area

2198
02:48:39,465 --> 02:48:43,465
to the north in the orange color and then in the purple

2199
02:48:44,055 --> 02:48:47,705
color, uh, violet color there. Um, that's within

2200
02:48:48,225 --> 02:48:51,395
our comprehensive plan. That's the employment center area.

2201
02:48:52,385 --> 02:48:56,285
so again, the property is split zoned and has two different,

2202
02:48:57,305 --> 02:49:00,995
um, growth areas, uh, for our comprehensive plan.

2203
02:49:04,585 --> 02:49:08,135
uh, the project, uh, again,

2204
02:49:09,185 --> 02:49:12,865
is being developed, uh, to operate a 20 megawatt, uh,

2205
02:49:13,295 --> 02:49:16,945
solar energy generation project. And, uh,

2206
02:49:17,305 --> 02:49:20,305
on the 196 acres and,

2207
02:49:22,225 --> 02:49:26,105
uh, the project would include, uh, you can see highlighted in

2208
02:49:26,325 --> 02:49:29,915
purple, uh, would include a 75 foot setback from

2209
02:49:30,345 --> 02:49:33,845
all perimeter property lines. Um, and the project

2210
02:49:34,905 --> 02:49:38,865
was proposing to preserve existing vegetation as

2211
02:49:39,085 --> 02:49:42,665
well as trees, uh, to provide, uh, screening of the,

2212
02:49:43,185 --> 02:49:47,035
of the project. And, uh, where the natural vegetation doesn't

2213
02:49:47,695 --> 02:49:51,545
exist. Um, they would provide, um, for,

2214
02:49:52,105 --> 02:49:55,295
uh, the screening with, uh, planted vegetation.

2215
02:49:56,625 --> 02:50:00,505
and that's the area primarily that's highlighted in green on

2216
02:50:00,745 --> 02:50:04,445
the slide there. Uh, the project

2217
02:50:04,815 --> 02:50:08,725
would have one access point off of route four 60 and then,

2218
02:50:09,305 --> 02:50:13,045
uh, to from the south. And then from the north, uh, the project,

2219
02:50:14,065 --> 02:50:17,415
uh, would be have one access point off of walker's pond drive.

2220
02:50:19,625 --> 02:50:23,205
the project is proposed to tie into the existing dominion

2221
02:50:23,845 --> 02:50:26,855
distribution grid on the north side of four 60.

2222
02:50:28,145 --> 02:50:31,925
and this connection would consist of four poles owned by dominion

2223
02:50:32,705 --> 02:50:36,455
and one pole owned by the project. And again, these

2224
02:50:37,055 --> 02:50:39,835
poles will support the distribution connection line,

2225
02:50:41,085 --> 02:50:45,015
transformers, circuit breakers and relays. And the electric lines

2226
02:50:45,385 --> 02:50:49,385
to get to the interconnection point, uh, will all be

2227
02:50:49,635 --> 02:50:53,365
underground. They would, uh, bore under the railroad

2228
02:50:53,745 --> 02:50:57,645
and again, tie into the existing, uh, dominion distribution

2229
02:50:58,115 --> 02:51:01,895
line. Uh, the solar panels,

2230
02:51:02,365 --> 02:51:05,065
again highlighted in blue, would cover approximately 75.8

2231
02:51:06,725 --> 02:51:09,795
acres of the site. And the fenced area is approximately

2232
02:51:11,035 --> 02:51:14,585
121 acres. The panels cover approximately

2233
02:51:15,855 --> 02:51:19,765
39% of the leased area and 62.3%

2234
02:51:22,055 --> 02:51:23,635
of the total fenced area.

2235
02:51:31,415 --> 02:51:34,955
um, just to briefly go over the, uh, zoning again of the property.

2236
02:51:35,575 --> 02:51:38,775
all the surrounding property is primarily, um,

2237
02:51:40,055 --> 02:51:43,435
to the west and north of the property is also in agricultural.

2238
02:51:44,695 --> 02:51:47,915
and then of course, walmart distribution across is zoned industrial,

2239
02:51:48,775 --> 02:51:52,065
as well as, um, the industrial property to the east,

2240
02:51:53,015 --> 02:51:56,515
um, dull concrete, um, that's owned industrial

2241
02:51:57,415 --> 02:51:57,635
as well.

2242
02:52:01,815 --> 02:52:05,245
uh, the primary purpose of the solar energy district,

2243
02:52:06,065 --> 02:52:09,925
uh, is to outline the process and requirements for the construction installation

2244
02:52:10,875 --> 02:52:14,865
operation of solar energy projects in the county in

2245
02:52:15,125 --> 02:52:19,005
a manner that promotes economic development, ensures the protection of health,

2246
02:52:19,365 --> 02:52:22,675
safety and welfare, while also avoiding adverse

2247
02:52:23,435 --> 02:52:26,885
impacts to the agricultural lands, endangered species

2248
02:52:27,445 --> 02:52:31,135
habitats, conservation lands, and other sensitive lands.

2249
02:52:32,865 --> 02:52:36,565
uh, we went over the comprehensive plan, uh, for the subject property.

2250
02:52:38,065 --> 02:52:41,875
and just to note, uh, as far as our planning areas, there's

2251
02:52:42,395 --> 02:52:46,355
also items in the comprehensive plan, uh, that the applicant discussed

2252
02:52:46,965 --> 02:52:50,965
related to our natural environment, sensitive lands and

2253
02:52:51,395 --> 02:52:55,185
habitat, air and light, environmental sustainability and

2254
02:52:55,685 --> 02:52:59,165
resilience land use. Our future land use framework

2255
02:53:00,315 --> 02:53:04,065
went over that with our comprehensive plan areas and our,

2256
02:53:04,585 --> 02:53:08,415
uh, those two areas, our employment center area and our phase

2257
02:53:08,765 --> 02:53:12,195
growth area, um, impacts

2258
02:53:12,795 --> 02:53:16,525
include, uh, natural resources and they've done

2259
02:53:16,945 --> 02:53:20,285
all their work on that as attachments as part of their application.

2260
02:53:21,785 --> 02:53:25,335
um, just to note, agricultural acreage, again,

2261
02:53:25,825 --> 02:53:29,055
the project lease area is approximately 196 acres

2262
02:53:29,915 --> 02:53:33,505
with 121 acres being within the fenced

2263
02:53:33,925 --> 02:53:37,385
area of the project. The

2264
02:53:37,945 --> 02:53:40,265
air acreage used for the project, um,

2265
02:53:42,665 --> 02:53:46,605
um, that 121 acres within

2266
02:53:46,985 --> 02:53:50,765
the fenced area and 8.8% of that

2267
02:53:50,995 --> 02:53:54,675
area, or 17.3 acres, is actively being used

2268
02:53:55,105 --> 02:53:58,725
for agricultural production. Majority of the project

2269
02:53:59,115 --> 02:54:02,735
site does not contain prime farmland, soils,

2270
02:54:03,185 --> 02:54:06,685
or soils of statewide importance. The amount of prime farmland

2271
02:54:07,245 --> 02:54:11,065
that is currently being used for agricultural that is impacted by

2272
02:54:11,285 --> 02:54:15,265
the project is 15.1 acres of

2273
02:54:15,525 --> 02:54:16,475
the total project area.

2274
02:54:19,945 --> 02:54:23,565
uh, the project has been designed to hopefully minimize the active agricultural

2275
02:54:24,395 --> 02:54:28,395
acreage used, uh, by locating behind the norfolk southern rail

2276
02:54:28,685 --> 02:54:32,685
line and the agricultural land in front of the rail line is not being

2277
02:54:33,365 --> 02:54:37,245
impacted. In addition, the site was identified by looking

2278
02:54:37,625 --> 02:54:41,555
at for sites with access to part of the distribution center with

2279
02:54:42,245 --> 02:54:45,365
electric capacity, as well as minimizing the use of farmland.

2280
02:54:54,675 --> 02:54:58,305
um, I went over the visual impacts of the project again,

2281
02:54:58,835 --> 02:55:02,555
uh, there's a 75 foot buffer, um, utilizing the

2282
02:55:03,285 --> 02:55:06,635
existing vegetation and the one highlighted area

2283
02:55:07,315 --> 02:55:11,285
that would be replanted, um, to screen the project,

2284
02:55:12,145 --> 02:55:15,285
um, from, uh, route four 60.

2285
02:55:23,475 --> 02:55:26,965
um, just to note, um, the traffic impacts

2286
02:55:27,635 --> 02:55:31,455
of the project, uh, the project did commission a traffic

2287
02:55:31,825 --> 02:55:34,415
study as part of the, uh, their application

2288
02:55:36,235 --> 02:55:39,955
and, um, again, the, the

2289
02:55:40,965 --> 02:55:44,335
project would be, um, have two access points,

2290
02:55:45,275 --> 02:55:49,245
one off of route four 60, and then one off of walker's pond lane.

2291
02:55:57,075 --> 02:56:00,755
um, vdot did review their traffic study and,

2292
02:56:01,315 --> 02:56:05,155
um, did request that they limit the project to

2293
02:56:05,375 --> 02:56:08,725
the one location off of four 60, um, that,

2294
02:56:10,085 --> 02:56:14,075
that, uh, shown near the highlighted green area and then off

2295
02:56:14,295 --> 02:56:18,235
of walker's pond drive. Um, and they did, uh,

2296
02:56:18,885 --> 02:56:22,845
vdot did indicate, um, that during construction that

2297
02:56:23,315 --> 02:56:26,695
the, uh, project would be, um, from the north

2298
02:56:27,595 --> 02:56:30,555
if the project's to be accessed from the north, uh,

2299
02:56:31,605 --> 02:56:35,305
side, um, that, that be from, um, river

2300
02:56:35,765 --> 02:56:39,435
road accessed, uh, from route four 60 in

2301
02:56:39,895 --> 02:56:43,835
ger road. Um, that it, uh, that the project would not

2302
02:56:44,115 --> 02:56:46,205
be accessed from the west.

2303
02:56:59,885 --> 02:57:03,515
um, just to note, as part of the conditional use permit, um, there

2304
02:57:03,925 --> 02:57:07,815
is a, um, traffic management plan. Um, they

2305
02:57:08,255 --> 02:57:11,855
also identify, uh, storm water management and erosion control,

2306
02:57:12,965 --> 02:57:16,545
um, conditions. There's also a decommissioning plan, uh, related

2307
02:57:17,005 --> 02:57:20,765
to the project. Um, inspections are, uh,

2308
02:57:21,295 --> 02:57:25,005
also noted as part of the, uh, project. Uh,

2309
02:57:28,255 --> 02:57:32,175
and, uh, just wanted to note at the planning commission meeting, the

2310
02:57:32,755 --> 02:57:36,725
planning commission, um, did, uh, make

2311
02:57:37,055 --> 02:57:40,595
a recommendation to the board. Uh, their recommendation, uh,

2312
02:57:41,155 --> 02:57:44,715
at their june meeting was, uh, a tie vote. Um,

2313
02:57:45,715 --> 02:57:49,555
so, uh, they had a vote of three to three. Um, so there was no,

2314
02:57:50,235 --> 02:57:54,035
uh, specific recommendation either for approval or

2315
02:57:54,255 --> 02:57:58,095
disapproval. Again, um, three members voted for approval,

2316
02:57:58,345 --> 02:58:02,065
three members voted for, uh, disapproval for

2317
02:58:02,425 --> 02:58:04,165
the rezoning of the property.

2318
02:58:06,985 --> 02:58:10,825
that's all I have, uh, for our general presentation this evening. Um,

2319
02:58:11,465 --> 02:58:15,045
do you have any questions at this time? Any questions of staff?

2320
02:58:15,535 --> 02:58:18,405
right. Move. Alright. Thank you, mark. Thank you.

2321
02:58:22,015 --> 02:58:25,805
right for the applicant. . Thank you.

2322
02:58:27,705 --> 02:58:29,405
you could, um, put my, thank you.

2323
02:58:32,265 --> 02:58:36,135
good evening. My name is will chuang. I'm with the law firm of woods rogers. I'm

2324
02:58:36,675 --> 02:58:40,595
representing, uh, the applicant here tonight. Uh, thank you, mr. Chairman, uh, members

2325
02:58:40,895 --> 02:58:44,735
of the board for giving me an opportunity to discuss this case, uh, and

2326
02:58:44,975 --> 02:58:48,745
to explain, um, why we think this is such a suitable site,

2327
02:58:49,255 --> 02:58:53,255
uh, that won't have any impact on our surrounding neighbors, uh, but is

2328
02:58:53,475 --> 02:58:57,195
also critically important, uh, to denwitty and the local community.

2329
02:58:58,355 --> 02:59:02,105
'cause it's unlike most every other, uh, solar facility that

2330
02:59:02,395 --> 02:59:05,995
you're gonna, uh, come across that ties directly into the transmission

2331
02:59:06,515 --> 02:59:10,515
lines and the power goes wherever it goes. This one's intended

2332
02:59:10,695 --> 02:59:14,575
to serve this local community, and I'll go into some details on

2333
02:59:14,955 --> 02:59:18,235
that. Um, uh, but what I'd, um,

2334
02:59:18,975 --> 02:59:22,415
in this, um, case, I, uh, denwitty, uh,

2335
02:59:23,015 --> 02:59:26,885
has no large power plants. Uh, so you're entirely right

2336
02:59:27,235 --> 02:59:30,675
now relying basically on the grid. And virginia is currently

2337
02:59:31,385 --> 02:59:35,355
importing 20% of its electricity. It's a matter, I'll, I'll mention a, a

2338
02:59:35,475 --> 02:59:39,095
leader, uh, indicated virginia is the net

2339
02:59:39,555 --> 02:59:43,355
importer in the entire country. Um, and there are several reasons

2340
02:59:43,735 --> 02:59:47,235
for that. Um, so if you have a problem with the grid and the shortages,

2341
02:59:47,835 --> 02:59:51,715
denwoody is gonna be one of the first to, um, feeling it. And the problem

2342
02:59:52,055 --> 02:59:56,015
is people look back in the past and say, we haven't had a problem. But

2343
02:59:56,235 --> 02:59:59,975
the problem is what's happening in the future. Uh, what, uh,

2344
03:00:00,255 --> 03:00:03,995
is happening is that demand for electricity in virginia

2345
03:00:04,415 --> 03:00:08,285
is absolutely searching. It is the highest, uh, growth since

2346
03:00:08,635 --> 03:00:12,155
world war ii for general growth. But also, as you know, the proliferation

2347
03:00:13,295 --> 03:00:16,795
of, uh, data centers and especially up in northern virginia.

2348
03:00:17,495 --> 03:00:21,455
uh, as a matter of fact, dominion energy, uh, forecast, the

2349
03:00:21,675 --> 03:00:25,615
peak demand is going to double in just 15 years. Uh,

2350
03:00:25,835 --> 03:00:29,595
and for denwitty county, uh, that could spell a lot of problems,

2351
03:00:30,335 --> 03:00:33,575
uh, you could be facing with brownouts and blackouts. Um,

2352
03:00:35,025 --> 03:00:38,945
this project was, well, not a panacea, is going to be providing

2353
03:00:39,645 --> 03:00:43,555
local power because it does not tie into the transmission lines, the major transmission

2354
03:00:44,035 --> 03:00:47,935
lines. It is tying into the local distribution center and

2355
03:00:48,275 --> 03:00:51,785
is intended to provide power in this local area.

2356
03:00:53,295 --> 03:00:57,025
it can also, and I have neil watling, uh, uh, tend here,

2357
03:00:57,735 --> 03:01:01,525
uh, with, uh, actual lives, who can explain in details if you would like,

2358
03:01:02,145 --> 03:01:05,795
uh, how this will help, uh, prevent, uh, brownouts

2359
03:01:06,425 --> 03:01:10,425
and also reduce them and help with fluctuations of power. Uh,

2360
03:01:10,865 --> 03:01:14,445
but it's going to be critically important we think for denwitty, its businesses,

2361
03:01:15,265 --> 03:01:19,045
uh, and its residents. Um, and there's been

2362
03:01:19,285 --> 03:01:23,145
a clarion call from leaders in, in, in the state and in

2363
03:01:23,365 --> 03:01:27,265
the industry of what's about to face us. Uh, as

2364
03:01:27,525 --> 03:01:30,685
a matter of fact, uh, john iwa, the ceo of rappahannock

2365
03:01:31,845 --> 03:01:35,605
electric cooperative, uh, wrote an article that emphasized

2366
03:01:36,045 --> 03:01:39,945
that virginia's department of energy projected annual, uh, growth

2367
03:01:40,625 --> 03:01:44,485
in, uh, power needs of 6.5% up from the

2368
03:01:44,845 --> 03:01:48,725
historic norm of 1.4%, which accounts for the

2369
03:01:49,005 --> 03:01:52,885
doubling by 2040. Um, and that pjm that the

2370
03:01:53,285 --> 03:01:56,705
regional, um, entity, uh, for, for power, uh,

2371
03:01:57,325 --> 03:02:01,325
recently indicated that power supply could run short as early as next summer

2372
03:02:02,025 --> 03:02:05,505
2026 if some action isn't taken. Um,

2373
03:02:06,985 --> 03:02:10,645
uh, he is not alone. Um, mark christie, who's the outgoing

2374
03:02:11,125 --> 03:02:15,085
chairman of the federal reg energy regulatory commission and is from virginia,

2375
03:02:15,785 --> 03:02:18,845
uh, was quoted recently in the richmond times dispatch is saying,

2376
03:02:19,905 --> 03:02:23,595
um, uh, that,

2377
03:02:24,145 --> 03:02:28,045
um, virginia is ground zero for data centers for the entire

2378
03:02:28,425 --> 03:02:32,285
planet. There are more data centers, more data center capacity

2379
03:02:32,565 --> 03:02:36,525
in the commonwealth of virginia than any other political entity on the face

2380
03:02:36,725 --> 03:02:40,525
of the earth. Uh, juan, uh, segura, who's the

2381
03:02:40,805 --> 03:02:44,765
secretary of commerce and trade for the commonwealth of virginia, pointed out that this

2382
03:02:44,965 --> 03:02:48,765
summer, maryland's electric grid almost came dangerously close

2383
03:02:49,105 --> 03:02:52,685
to failure for virginia and every other pjm state,

2384
03:02:53,505 --> 03:02:57,205
uh, this needs to be served as a wake up call, uh, for what's

2385
03:02:57,525 --> 03:03:01,325
coming. Uh, these are some charts to show

2386
03:03:01,565 --> 03:03:05,465
you exactly how virginia is situated. I think this is from the department of

2387
03:03:05,685 --> 03:03:08,905
energy, which if you're, if you're looking at this, um,

2388
03:03:10,345 --> 03:03:13,815
uh, right, right there, virginia is the most precarious

2389
03:03:14,635 --> 03:03:18,525
area in the entire country. Um, because we're uniquely situated for all

2390
03:03:18,645 --> 03:03:20,025
these data centers. Um,

2391
03:03:24,465 --> 03:03:28,355
then, uh, just in the next five years, to give you an

2392
03:03:28,515 --> 03:03:32,495
idea, we've talked about doubling by 2040, but by 2030, the

2393
03:03:32,715 --> 03:03:36,615
projection is that we're gonna need 10,500 megawatts of

2394
03:03:36,855 --> 03:03:39,555
new generation capacity, uh, within five years.

2395
03:03:41,615 --> 03:03:45,555
so I've, I've mentioned for a moment the fundamental difference in this

2396
03:03:45,955 --> 03:03:49,555
project versus the typical one that you've seen is much larger projects

2397
03:03:50,115 --> 03:03:53,915
that are tying into the, uh, transmission. As I said, we're regular

2398
03:03:54,875 --> 03:03:58,585
telephone poles that are, or poles that tie into the local system,

2399
03:03:59,505 --> 03:04:03,425
uh, which means we're smaller lines. Uh, and it goes in as

2400
03:04:03,645 --> 03:04:06,545
the, the electricity will say local. Um,

2401
03:04:07,745 --> 03:04:11,685
and it will, uh, uh, have a very small footprint. As, as a matter of fact,

2402
03:04:11,805 --> 03:04:15,565
this is only a 20 megawatt, I think, uh, project, but that still

2403
03:04:15,945 --> 03:04:19,885
can power, uh, several thousand homes, local businesses. That's the kind

2404
03:04:20,045 --> 03:04:23,645
of power it can provide to the local, uh, c community,

2405
03:04:24,625 --> 03:04:28,325
um, which has profound impacts on this community.

2406
03:04:28,905 --> 03:04:32,845
uh, when, when, when there are, you know, you're in the middle of the summer

2407
03:04:33,665 --> 03:04:36,285
and the power and these data centers are, and up and running,

2408
03:04:38,045 --> 03:04:42,045
denwoody is going to have a power source it can rely on. And as I can

2409
03:04:42,205 --> 03:04:46,185
say, neil can talk in some detail about why that will ensure

2410
03:04:46,905 --> 03:04:50,805
or help ensure that you won't suffer a blackout or, or a

2411
03:04:50,925 --> 03:04:54,705
brownout. Uh,

2412
03:04:55,035 --> 03:04:58,725
distributed projects, uh, are intended to benefit

2413
03:04:59,065 --> 03:05:02,385
the local, uh, area. Um, it, uh,

2414
03:05:03,865 --> 03:05:07,315
it, uh, will have less impact, but provide sub substantial

2415
03:05:08,365 --> 03:05:12,005
economic, uh, stimulus and income to the county. Uh, it enhances

2416
03:05:12,565 --> 03:05:16,565
the generation resilience in the area. Uh, it will be a backup

2417
03:05:17,065 --> 03:05:20,325
for local infrastructure if you have weather events or grid disturbances,

2418
03:05:21,765 --> 03:05:24,585
reducing the outage duration if you do have one. Um,

2419
03:05:25,785 --> 03:05:29,665
and it helps protect against a single point of failure. Um, it

2420
03:05:30,045 --> 03:05:33,165
has a low impact form of development. It generates the county revenue,

2421
03:05:34,065 --> 03:05:37,905
uh, and the owner's revenue, like some of them are here tonight, uh, without any

2422
03:05:38,125 --> 03:05:41,885
real industrial or, or additional infrastructure, uh, strain,

2423
03:05:44,865 --> 03:05:48,355
uh, about this particular project, uh,

2424
03:05:48,935 --> 03:05:52,845
compared to most that come before you. It's a small project with a small, uh, footprint.

2425
03:05:53,955 --> 03:05:57,795
as you you've heard, we're only impacting, I think about, uh, uh,

2426
03:05:58,375 --> 03:06:02,075
17 acres of agricultural land. It's 20 megawatts. Uh,

2427
03:06:02,435 --> 03:06:05,815
it is located in the industrial corridor north of route four 60.

2428
03:06:06,515 --> 03:06:10,115
so we're not in the middle of prime agricultural land. Um,

2429
03:06:10,875 --> 03:06:14,855
we are in the northern part where I think you would want this to be,

2430
03:06:15,395 --> 03:06:18,615
uh, surrounded by a lot of industrial users that will be, be beneficiaries

2431
03:06:19,795 --> 03:06:23,795
of, of this project, including the walmart distribution center, uh, uh,

2432
03:06:24,275 --> 03:06:28,115
vulcan materials, uh, and, and the, uh, tilden,

2433
03:06:28,535 --> 03:06:32,075
uh, concrete, um, uh, man, uh, plant. Uh,

2434
03:06:32,615 --> 03:06:36,575
I think I sent to you in talking with folks, uh, vulcan sent an email

2435
03:06:36,835 --> 03:06:40,775
and asked me to forward it to you, which I, which I did, expressing their strong support,

2436
03:06:41,835 --> 03:06:45,645
uh, for this project. I think being so active in the industry, they

2437
03:06:45,935 --> 03:06:49,775
know the upcoming problems that are, that, that we're facing. And believe having

2438
03:06:50,065 --> 03:06:54,035
local energy, uh, is going to be very important, not only for them, but

2439
03:06:54,255 --> 03:06:58,245
for the community. In talking with the, uh, construc, uh, the, uh, concrete,

2440
03:06:58,585 --> 03:07:02,325
uh, manufacturers, uh, I mean, in, in their discussions that they understand,

2441
03:07:02,885 --> 03:07:06,345
I think the benefits, uh, uh, that this could bring. Um,

2442
03:07:07,905 --> 03:07:11,735
as I said, that, um, we only have about 75 acres

2443
03:07:12,345 --> 03:07:15,985
of, uh, land that are actually under, um, solar panels. Uh,

2444
03:07:16,425 --> 03:07:20,345
we have extensive vegetative buffers. We, I will talk more if

2445
03:07:20,565 --> 03:07:24,485
we get, when we get to the, uh, conditional use hearing. Uh, but we can basically

2446
03:07:25,125 --> 03:07:28,975
insulate this property from being seen from from other properties.

2447
03:07:30,105 --> 03:07:33,485
uh, we've got the elevated, uh, we've got the elevated

2448
03:07:34,245 --> 03:07:38,085
railroad. We've got extensive existing vegetation, uh, in the one small

2449
03:07:38,405 --> 03:07:41,765
section that isn't, we can heavily vegetate it with fast growing evergreens.

2450
03:07:42,745 --> 03:07:46,605
so unlike a lot of projects that you, you can't hide it, uh, this one

2451
03:07:46,785 --> 03:07:50,165
can get hidden. Um, and once we're in, you're not gonna know we're there.

2452
03:07:50,845 --> 03:07:54,675
I mean, we don't have traffic, uh, we're not gonna have noise. Um, it's

2453
03:07:54,965 --> 03:07:58,945
gonna be truly a silent party, uh, partner for the community. Uh,

2454
03:07:59,295 --> 03:08:03,005
other things that we've done in working with neighbors is we reduced

2455
03:08:03,445 --> 03:08:07,385
the number of entrances. Uh, we also did the entrance road that comes in,

2456
03:08:08,225 --> 03:08:12,225
uh, near, um, to be an s shape. So it

2457
03:08:12,445 --> 03:08:15,805
would prevent further from being seen looking into the panels.

2458
03:08:17,505 --> 03:08:21,185
um, and it's a, uh, nine month, um,

2459
03:08:22,435 --> 03:08:26,245
it's a nine month, uh, construction project, but that's

2460
03:08:26,485 --> 03:08:30,485
not, I mean, that's the total period you have. You, you'll have trucks come in for a

2461
03:08:30,605 --> 03:08:34,605
little bit put down, they're working on it, and then come back. It's not a steady stream. I

2462
03:08:34,725 --> 03:08:38,665
would also note that two thirds to three quarters of, um,

2463
03:08:39,945 --> 03:08:43,285
two thirds to three quarters of, uh, the project

2464
03:08:44,025 --> 03:08:47,755
is being accessed directly from four 60. So there's only a smaller part

2465
03:08:48,045 --> 03:08:52,045
that's coming in from the north. And the only reason why we're doing that is there is a

2466
03:08:52,165 --> 03:08:56,045
creek that comes through. We're not impacting wetlands, so we, we can't be going

2467
03:08:56,275 --> 03:08:57,885
over and disturbing, uh, those wetlands.

2468
03:09:00,745 --> 03:09:04,685
uh, in terms of, um, uh, the benefits,

2469
03:09:05,025 --> 03:09:08,205
as I said, it, it's a clean power source and can servee up to 3,500

2470
03:09:09,375 --> 03:09:12,875
households and local businesses, including the $10 corporation, walmart

2471
03:09:13,925 --> 03:09:17,825
distribution center, vulcan material supply, and small business in, in

2472
03:09:18,045 --> 03:09:20,425
the area in, in addition to the residence. Um,

2473
03:09:22,385 --> 03:09:26,365
and it will continue to, uh, supply electricity locally when there's a power

2474
03:09:26,735 --> 03:09:30,245
adage or, um, repairs at the substation. And it'll improve

2475
03:09:30,765 --> 03:09:34,765
den wit's, uh, local grid resiliency, uh, helping to keep the

2476
03:09:34,925 --> 03:09:38,885
lights on and, uh, helping businesses to continue to operate. 'cause a

2477
03:09:39,005 --> 03:09:42,165
brown out can be extremely disruptive, not only to individuals,

2478
03:09:43,065 --> 03:09:45,985
but to businesses and manufacturing operations. Um,

2479
03:09:49,375 --> 03:09:53,025
in terms of financial benefits, uh, the

2480
03:09:53,525 --> 03:09:57,145
economics benefits will be, uh, substantial in

2481
03:09:57,645 --> 03:10:01,405
addition to, um, the ability to provide power, which is

2482
03:10:01,725 --> 03:10:05,125
probably the single most important thing that it does. But you're looking at a $2 million

2483
03:10:06,285 --> 03:10:09,565
economic impact for denwoody county during construction, $140,000

2484
03:10:11,065 --> 03:10:15,065
of annual economic impact to denwitty during operations. Uh,

2485
03:10:15,765 --> 03:10:19,405
probably $3.2 million in tax revenue to denwitty county during operations

2486
03:10:19,925 --> 03:10:23,885
from real estate taxes and the taxes on the capital investment. And then

2487
03:10:24,005 --> 03:10:27,725
as part of the signing agreement, even though we've, um, as we'll talk about, even though we've

2488
03:10:28,125 --> 03:10:31,845
shrunk the size and in dealing with neighbors, as you may recall, they came before,

2489
03:10:32,665 --> 03:10:35,745
uh, they've knocked down probably, uh, uh,

2490
03:10:36,785 --> 03:10:40,685
six megawatts, a substantial cut, a substantial amount off, so those two neighbors don't feel

2491
03:10:41,125 --> 03:10:44,395
surrounded, uh, but keeping the, um, the, the payment

2492
03:10:45,305 --> 03:10:49,235
of the same. And so you have a $300,000 citing agreement, cash

2493
03:10:49,525 --> 03:10:50,975
payment at the start of project operations.

2494
03:10:54,845 --> 03:10:58,825
uh, this is the site. And just to give you some feel, and we've worked, we have a couple

2495
03:10:58,945 --> 03:11:02,905
of neighbors who, um, we've worked with 'em, uh, try to work with 'em very, very closely.

2496
03:11:03,845 --> 03:11:07,685
uh, and, uh, I've had conversations with 'em trying to do everything we

2497
03:11:07,905 --> 03:11:11,905
can to ensure them that they have no impact, uh, or minimal impact to

2498
03:11:12,105 --> 03:11:16,065
them. Uh, and I appreciated their talking with me even recently.

2499
03:11:16,885 --> 03:11:20,705
um, but it was very clear, I mean, in having the conversation, they

2500
03:11:20,905 --> 03:11:24,345
were kind enough to say, we, we think you've done just about everything you can do .

2501
03:11:24,925 --> 03:11:28,885
uh, but I can appreciate that they don't want to have solar there. Uh,

2502
03:11:29,605 --> 03:11:33,545
uh, and so, uh, what we sincerely believe is we're not gonna

2503
03:11:33,705 --> 03:11:37,525
have an impact on those neighbors. Uh, as part of the conditions, as, as

2504
03:11:37,965 --> 03:11:41,825
we can talk about, we've agreed to, to maintain, even though we are only

2505
03:11:42,135 --> 03:11:46,065
accessing early into to, into, uh, walker's pond

2506
03:11:46,265 --> 03:11:50,225
drive to maintain the entire walker's pond drive, uh, through the

2507
03:11:50,425 --> 03:11:53,925
operation of this, uh, that nearest neighbor is, I think, 656

2508
03:11:55,065 --> 03:11:58,675
feet away from where the, the, uh, the extensive vegetative

2509
03:11:59,345 --> 03:12:03,345
buffer would start. And 950, uh, 929 feet

2510
03:12:03,725 --> 03:12:07,645
is, is the, is the other one, as you can see on this chart. Uh, we

2511
03:12:07,865 --> 03:12:11,725
totally eliminated the northern parcel, um, to, to, to

2512
03:12:11,945 --> 03:12:15,485
further try to, uh, help the, help the neighbors. Um,

2513
03:12:15,995 --> 03:12:19,945
we've also put other, um, conditions like groundwater testing

2514
03:12:20,285 --> 03:12:23,985
and that sort of thing, and offered a, a property assurance program.

2515
03:12:25,165 --> 03:12:29,115
uh, this is just showing the types of uses that are very near in the area, which

2516
03:12:29,465 --> 03:12:33,265
include tyndall, concrete vol materials in the walmart distribution

2517
03:12:33,585 --> 03:12:37,385
center. If you're looking at a project where you want to have it in the county,

2518
03:12:38,365 --> 03:12:42,145
we respectfully submit this is where you'd want it. I mean, I can't really think

2519
03:12:42,425 --> 03:12:46,385
of one where I could put it any better, uh, that wouldn't

2520
03:12:46,745 --> 03:12:50,625
have an impact on, on residences and is in an area that's very business

2521
03:12:50,765 --> 03:12:54,075
and industry oriented while still maintaining such substantial

2522
03:12:54,835 --> 03:12:58,365
buffers, uh, uh, and, and having an elevated

2523
03:12:58,925 --> 03:13:02,675
railroad, uh, blocking it, uh, from the road. Uh, here

2524
03:13:03,025 --> 03:13:06,705
is, uh, some views of, uh, looking into the

2525
03:13:07,035 --> 03:13:10,765
site, uh, the retained. This gives you an idea of the kind of retained vegetation

2526
03:13:11,715 --> 03:13:15,545
that is on the property. Um,

2527
03:13:16,235 --> 03:13:20,035
here it is, uh, uh, at planning that you're looking into

2528
03:13:20,325 --> 03:13:24,205
the site. You can see we have the little legend in, in the left showing where we took that

2529
03:13:24,365 --> 03:13:28,305
photo from. Uh, and then as you are, um,

2530
03:13:29,385 --> 03:13:33,285
as you're looking in with, within a few years, how the, you would plant those,

2531
03:13:33,705 --> 03:13:37,525
uh, fast growing vegetative buffers. So you're completely blocking, uh, the

2532
03:13:37,725 --> 03:13:38,845
site, uh, from four 60.

2533
03:13:45,005 --> 03:13:48,845
this is showing, obviously through the property. We have nearby those very,

2534
03:13:49,635 --> 03:13:53,575
uh, high profile, uh, transmission lines in, in the water

2535
03:13:53,775 --> 03:13:57,575
tower. And again,

2536
03:13:57,855 --> 03:14:01,115
this is showing you a photo, uh, where you're not gonna be able to see,

2537
03:14:01,875 --> 03:14:04,535
uh, the, the panels, uh, from four 60,

2538
03:14:07,275 --> 03:14:10,835
uh, the, uh, uh,

2539
03:14:11,785 --> 03:14:15,775
based on our traffic data, uh, and the access quarters, we have

2540
03:14:15,895 --> 03:14:19,755
available capacity to accommodate any site generated traffic during,

2541
03:14:20,275 --> 03:14:24,035
uh, construction. And then once we're up and running for 40, 45 years, you,

2542
03:14:24,415 --> 03:14:28,295
you're basically gonna have next to nothing in, in terms of traffic, occasional

2543
03:14:28,575 --> 03:14:32,295
maintenance. Um, again, in, in talking

2544
03:14:32,605 --> 03:14:36,355
with the two, uh, local resident families, um, uh,

2545
03:14:36,925 --> 03:14:40,615
that are residing near this industrial corridor, uh, they've expressed

2546
03:14:41,095 --> 03:14:45,095
concern. I think we have worked, tried to work extensively with them. I think

2547
03:14:45,395 --> 03:14:48,935
the case, as you can see, has changed dramatically. And we go into the details

2548
03:14:49,435 --> 03:14:53,235
of the conditions with the conditional use permit, uh, how

2549
03:14:53,525 --> 03:14:57,395
extensively we are trying to ensure, uh, that they are not impacted, and

2550
03:14:57,615 --> 03:15:01,525
we actually think they will benefit. I mean, one of the major benefits is taking over

2551
03:15:01,885 --> 03:15:05,835
that maintenance of, of the, uh, walker's pond road all

2552
03:15:06,055 --> 03:15:09,995
the way down, even well past our entrance, uh, to, to upgrade and

2553
03:15:10,455 --> 03:15:13,655
maintain that road, which we think will be a great benefit, uh, to them.

2554
03:15:14,835 --> 03:15:17,775
um, we've entirely removed the northern parcel from the project,

2555
03:15:19,695 --> 03:15:23,655
reducing it in size. Uh, we've reduced the number of entrances from four

2556
03:15:23,915 --> 03:15:27,515
to two, um, and we've made it an s shape. Um,

2557
03:15:28,075 --> 03:15:31,655
so, uh, further shielding, uh, the site from the neighbors.

2558
03:15:32,395 --> 03:15:35,585
uh, we've committed to improving walker's pond road. We've

2559
03:15:36,495 --> 03:15:40,455
provided, uh, an offer to provide property value guarantees to the residents,

2560
03:15:40,855 --> 03:15:44,715
although we can't imagine how we're gonna have an impact on them. Um, and,

2561
03:15:45,075 --> 03:15:47,895
um, we've also agreed to do, uh, groundwater testing.

2562
03:15:50,185 --> 03:15:53,945
uh, we believe that, uh, in looking at it, we sent out hundreds of

2563
03:15:54,475 --> 03:15:58,315
letters for community meeting, uh, and we got less

2564
03:15:58,605 --> 03:16:02,565
than a handful. And most of 'em were owned landowners. And I think you'll hear from 'em, we have a

2565
03:16:02,685 --> 03:16:06,245
number of landowners that did, I think will express that this is very important to them and their

2566
03:16:07,005 --> 03:16:10,925
families. Um, and I think that's, that's striking because

2567
03:16:11,605 --> 03:16:15,605
I think people understand this is a different kind of project from what they normally

2568
03:16:15,825 --> 03:16:17,925
see in terms of a major, major solar project.

2569
03:16:19,865 --> 03:16:22,185
um, the, um, um,

2570
03:16:24,505 --> 03:16:27,685
we think we are benefiting a county of, um, about 28,000

2571
03:16:28,605 --> 03:16:29,725
plus, uh, citizens.

2572
03:16:33,265 --> 03:16:36,965
um, we, uh, we will talk in, in detail on the conditions,

2573
03:16:37,625 --> 03:16:41,445
but we want to have the conditions that are as tight as possible. I've worked with mr. Southall

2574
03:16:42,225 --> 03:16:46,005
and, and, and, and the county. Uh, I'm glad to talk about

2575
03:16:46,285 --> 03:16:50,285
those. But we're, we're, we're committed to fully screening this project. Uh, we've

2576
03:16:50,765 --> 03:16:54,745
actually suggested a couple of conditions I think that the county might make that would improve on

2577
03:16:55,315 --> 03:16:59,305
what the suggested, uh, conditions were. Um, but, um,

2578
03:17:00,105 --> 03:17:04,075
we, uh, believe that the county is foot

2579
03:17:04,365 --> 03:17:08,215
will be fully protected. And the issue is we're

2580
03:17:08,565 --> 03:17:12,525
gonna need power. I think denwoody needs local power. I

2581
03:17:12,645 --> 03:17:16,205
mean, I, I've laid out about as strongly as I can how important

2582
03:17:16,705 --> 03:17:20,645
having that local distributed power is. Uh, and the question

2583
03:17:20,745 --> 03:17:24,645
is, where can you provide it? And if you're gonna provide it, this would be

2584
03:17:24,805 --> 03:17:27,505
the site. Um,

2585
03:17:30,105 --> 03:17:33,925
so I would, um, say we've, as, uh, mr. Bassett indicated,

2586
03:17:34,455 --> 03:17:38,445
we've extensively provided extensive documentations. This has been thoroughly

2587
03:17:39,125 --> 03:17:43,005
analyzed, uh, and it's come back saying that this is a very

2588
03:17:43,565 --> 03:17:47,405
suitable site, uh, for, for solar, uh, in, in this,

2589
03:17:47,825 --> 03:17:51,065
in this, uh, case. Um, and, um,

2590
03:17:51,845 --> 03:17:54,745
I would be glad to answer any questions that you have. Uh,

2591
03:17:55,865 --> 03:17:59,425
and I have, uh, representatives from, um,

2592
03:17:59,945 --> 03:18:03,485
the applicant here to answer any questions. Uh, but we really appreciate

2593
03:18:04,115 --> 03:18:07,675
your, um, uh, consideration. I think you've heard me say very

2594
03:18:08,205 --> 03:18:12,085
strongly, this is critically important, and this is a fundamentally different

2595
03:18:12,485 --> 03:18:15,645
project from the other solar facilities that are tying into the transmission.

2596
03:18:17,025 --> 03:18:20,845
uh, your residents are gonna be facing issues going forward.

2597
03:18:21,865 --> 03:18:25,765
uh, and as I've quoted, that's not just coming from me, that's not

2598
03:18:25,925 --> 03:18:29,125
just coming from the applicant. Uh, that's what we're facing as a state.

2599
03:18:29,945 --> 03:18:33,885
um, and so we would ask for your consideration, uh, to let us move forward.

2600
03:18:34,785 --> 03:18:38,045
uh, I'll be glad to answer any questions. I would at the end of the comment period,

2601
03:18:38,825 --> 03:18:42,765
I'd like an opportunity to respond to, to any comments made to, to be able to

2602
03:18:42,885 --> 03:18:46,845
address those. But I want to thank you for your time and consideration. I know,

2603
03:18:46,965 --> 03:18:50,865
know, it's a difficult job and you all are balancing, uh, the

2604
03:18:51,085 --> 03:18:54,705
needs of individuals in the entire community. I know it's not an easy job,

2605
03:18:55,345 --> 03:18:58,525
and I just want to express my appreciation for your time and consideration.

2606
03:19:00,175 --> 03:19:01,485
thank you, sir. Thank you. Questions.

2607
03:19:04,195 --> 03:19:08,105
okay. Thank you. And we'll, we will get, give you the opportunity to come back up

2608
03:19:08,425 --> 03:19:10,715
out to the public hearing. Thank you, chairman. Okay.

2609
03:19:13,665 --> 03:19:17,325
I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearing portion. Do we have anyone

2610
03:19:17,685 --> 03:19:20,285
signed up? Yes, mr. Chairman.

2611
03:19:22,695 --> 03:19:26,605
looks like the first person is the applicant. Did you? I signed up

2612
03:19:26,765 --> 03:19:27,635
outta appoint. Okay.

2613
03:19:30,915 --> 03:19:31,505
belinda eng.

2614
03:19:35,665 --> 03:19:39,445
and while she's coming up that, um, your comments, you have five minutes,

2615
03:19:40,105 --> 03:19:43,845
um, for your comments. And if you get to the end of, of the five minutes,

2616
03:19:44,505 --> 03:19:48,365
if you can, uh, wrap your, uh, thoughts up as quick as

2617
03:19:48,805 --> 03:19:52,805
possible. So thank you. Mr. Chairman, just, just to be clear, there

2618
03:19:53,125 --> 03:19:57,045
are three public hearings slated for tonight. What, what you're hearing right now is the first one on the

2619
03:19:57,325 --> 03:20:01,075
rezoning, right? Yes. Uh, belinda

2620
03:20:01,685 --> 03:20:04,605
n 21 1 13 walkers pond drive. Sutherland,

2621
03:20:05,745 --> 03:20:09,545
uh, good evening chairman and members of the board. Uh, the green energy

2622
03:20:09,995 --> 03:20:13,925
deal for solar project is all about money, uh, from the

2623
03:20:14,045 --> 03:20:17,765
government subsidies. I do believe there's other things coming down the road

2624
03:20:18,105 --> 03:20:21,845
to create energy. I know in chesterfield, they're talking about

2625
03:20:22,285 --> 03:20:25,865
building new power plant, uh, not by coal or

2626
03:20:26,325 --> 03:20:30,035
I don't know all the new sources, but it's in the works. Um, because

2627
03:20:30,615 --> 03:20:34,485
solar panels are not a reliable source of energy, from what I have researched,

2628
03:20:34,765 --> 03:20:38,705
it's, you takes thousands of them to make a lot of electricity. Um,

2629
03:20:38,925 --> 03:20:42,515
there are many ways to produce electricity, but there's only one way to produce food,

2630
03:20:43,225 --> 03:20:46,765
and that's with farmland. As of yesterday, department of agriculture

2631
03:20:47,445 --> 03:20:51,245
will no longer support solar panels on farmland, and we need

2632
03:20:51,485 --> 03:20:54,635
to preserve our farmland and our woodland for future generations

2633
03:20:55,505 --> 03:20:58,835
and for the wildlife. I have many concerns with

2634
03:20:59,675 --> 03:21:03,625
this, uh, coming down. It is no longer in front of my

2635
03:21:03,745 --> 03:21:07,665
high. It's gonna be on the side and the back of my property. Uh, one concern

2636
03:21:08,125 --> 03:21:11,985
is a chemicals leaching from the panels into the groundwater and contaminating

2637
03:21:12,345 --> 03:21:16,265
my well. And there's two creeks, one in front of us and one behind

2638
03:21:16,685 --> 03:21:20,635
that's on my property. Wallace creek runs behind my house and that feeds

2639
03:21:21,095 --> 03:21:24,865
into the appomattox river. Um, and that's concerning

2640
03:21:25,415 --> 03:21:29,405
that the well be contaminated with the chemicals from the panels. Um,

2641
03:21:29,895 --> 03:21:33,525
also my property value. What's gonna happen to that? Is it going down because of

2642
03:21:34,325 --> 03:21:38,185
all the solar panels? Another concern is our dirt road,

2643
03:21:38,765 --> 03:21:42,705
uh, walker's pond drive. We live at the very end of it, which is

2644
03:21:42,905 --> 03:21:46,805
like three quarters of a mile long. Um, and that's our only

2645
03:21:47,005 --> 03:21:50,365
way of getting in and out. And if they're bringing heavy, big truck loads of

2646
03:21:51,115 --> 03:21:54,595
equipment in, and we are in and out all day. And our neighbors also,

2647
03:21:55,385 --> 03:21:59,385
uh, how are we gonna get in if big trucks come in and the road was not built for

2648
03:21:59,605 --> 03:22:03,525
trucks. It's a dirt road and we've had to put pipes under

2649
03:22:03,685 --> 03:22:07,595
the creek and do all the maintenance to it, but it's

2650
03:22:07,885 --> 03:22:11,665
not for big equipment to come in. And we maintained that road all,

2651
03:22:11,945 --> 03:22:15,565
all year round. And for the last 36 years, also, the panels

2652
03:22:15,965 --> 03:22:19,845
heat up the surrounding area, uh, up to 10 degrees and can become a fire hazard.

2653
03:22:20,905 --> 03:22:24,765
and there was a, last year they had a big fire in chesapeake,

2654
03:22:25,465 --> 03:22:29,445
and it took 'em like two days to get the fire out, uh, working that I didn't know if the

2655
03:22:29,725 --> 03:22:33,475
denwoody is equipped, the fire department's equipped to handle that,

2656
03:22:34,105 --> 03:22:38,075
uh, size fire. Uh, I asked you tonight to please vote

2657
03:22:38,365 --> 03:22:41,405
down this project. Um, and I thank you for your time.

2658
03:22:42,895 --> 03:22:43,245
thank you,

2659
03:22:49,185 --> 03:22:49,405
jim. Daniel,

2660
03:23:03,795 --> 03:23:07,725
good evening. Good evening, jim. Jim, daniel, 21, 1 13 walker's

2661
03:23:08,285 --> 03:23:12,165
pond drive. Uh, I just want to say

2662
03:23:12,385 --> 03:23:16,125
the same thing. Prob mostly, um, you know, I have issues

2663
03:23:16,615 --> 03:23:20,615
with the, the water runoff. Uh, any noise created

2664
03:23:21,325 --> 03:23:25,045
any hum or buzzing that the panels may do. Uh,

2665
03:23:25,655 --> 03:23:29,185
then there, the rise in temperature that can, can be a fire hazard.

2666
03:23:30,525 --> 03:23:34,195
um, really don't, uh, think

2667
03:23:34,695 --> 03:23:38,665
solar's the way to go for, for the county. Uh, there there's gotta be something

2668
03:23:38,985 --> 03:23:42,705
better. Uh, instead of using up all our valuable

2669
03:23:43,025 --> 03:23:46,885
farmland, uh, and, and forests, you

2670
03:23:47,105 --> 03:23:49,825
know, we, we need trees just as, just as bad as we need farmland.

2671
03:23:51,365 --> 03:23:54,205
um, 25, 30

2672
03:23:55,595 --> 03:23:59,025
years ago, I wanted to give

2673
03:23:59,665 --> 03:24:02,745
a piece of my land, uh, land to one of my kids.

2674
03:24:04,125 --> 03:24:06,985
um, they wanted to build a house.

2675
03:24:08,405 --> 03:24:12,225
so I came to the county and started making plans. The county

2676
03:24:12,425 --> 03:24:16,175
told me I, I couldn't do it. They

2677
03:24:16,465 --> 03:24:19,915
said that the road was not up to county specs.

2678
03:24:22,135 --> 03:24:26,075
so that was it. Just a note, you know, unless I wanted to

2679
03:24:26,275 --> 03:24:30,075
bring it up, which would cost thousands of dollars, even back then,

2680
03:24:31,545 --> 03:24:35,425
well now the same road

2681
03:24:36,055 --> 03:24:39,675
that's basically in the same condition is gonna support

2682
03:24:40,115 --> 03:24:43,795
a solar project that, that doesn't

2683
03:24:44,735 --> 03:24:46,745
sound like it's right, but, you know, hey,

2684
03:24:49,745 --> 03:24:52,475
um, now this dirt road

2685
03:24:53,755 --> 03:24:56,825
I've been taking care of for 36 years, um,

2686
03:24:59,395 --> 03:25:03,115
I scrape it, put down a lot of rock. I

2687
03:25:03,555 --> 03:25:05,845
I cut the grass, I trimmed the trees.

2688
03:25:07,815 --> 03:25:11,705
um, I have to, I've had to, uh, replace

2689
03:25:12,215 --> 03:25:14,695
the pipe, the, the creek, um,

2690
03:25:16,535 --> 03:25:20,315
no help. Um, and did I mention

2691
03:25:20,715 --> 03:25:22,515
I have to scrape it and put more rock down?

2692
03:25:25,415 --> 03:25:29,395
um, but now we've got

2693
03:25:30,795 --> 03:25:34,155
a, a maintenance agreement that's signed by some property owners

2694
03:25:35,625 --> 03:25:36,955
that don't even live on the road

2695
03:25:39,695 --> 03:25:42,145
and have never contributed a dime

2696
03:25:43,855 --> 03:25:47,755
to the upkeep of it. But they got people they let in to

2697
03:25:47,905 --> 03:25:51,905
hunt, uh, rent to farm

2698
03:25:52,835 --> 03:25:55,835
a piece. Still haven't had any help.

2699
03:25:58,175 --> 03:26:02,115
so, in closing, I I'm just asking, you know,

2700
03:26:03,175 --> 03:26:07,095
for a no vote from y'all, um, the same as you

2701
03:26:07,375 --> 03:26:10,955
did in august of nine, of 2024,

2702
03:26:12,775 --> 03:26:16,075
and that the planning commission did the same thing in june of 24

2703
03:26:17,735 --> 03:26:19,195
and of june this year.

2704
03:26:22,205 --> 03:26:25,425
and that's all I have. I thank y'all. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

2705
03:26:28,375 --> 03:26:28,805
dana tipton.

2706
03:26:33,885 --> 03:26:37,825
no, everybody. Good evening. Hello ma'am. Thank you. So I'm gonna come

2707
03:26:37,945 --> 03:26:41,905
at it a little bit different way and I do agree with what I've heard

2708
03:26:42,135 --> 03:26:45,745
some of the things, but minus more on the cost of solar.

2709
03:26:46,965 --> 03:26:50,945
and I know it sounds really good as me as a landowner to get

2710
03:26:51,105 --> 03:26:54,585
800 to $1,400 an acre, nice money.

2711
03:26:56,285 --> 03:26:59,645
but as me as a taxpayer, and I'm not talking ity tax,

2712
03:27:00,645 --> 03:27:04,135
I'm talking about federal and state taxes. Are you aware

2713
03:27:04,685 --> 03:27:08,635
that we're subsidizing over 93% of the cost of

2714
03:27:08,855 --> 03:27:11,415
that solar farm? A lot of money.

2715
03:27:12,935 --> 03:27:16,525
I heard the gentleman say in his presentation that

2716
03:27:17,165 --> 03:27:21,095
this piece of property is being fed right to dominion power. It's going right to

2717
03:27:21,535 --> 03:27:25,435
den. Really? I worked on the trading floor for, for

2718
03:27:25,855 --> 03:27:29,175
virginia power. Hmm. I would question that.

2719
03:27:30,835 --> 03:27:34,765
I'd also question the part that he said about it's

2720
03:27:35,055 --> 03:27:38,455
gonna keep d witty lights on if the grid goes down.

2721
03:27:40,305 --> 03:27:43,645
hmm, if the grid goes down, solar farm doesn't work either.

2722
03:27:45,635 --> 03:27:49,405
also, the other thing that bothers me is when the

2723
03:27:49,775 --> 03:27:53,585
sun's not out, that solar farm's not doing any of those houses he

2724
03:27:53,805 --> 03:27:57,675
mentioned, or those plants. A bit of good a daylight

2725
03:27:57,885 --> 03:28:01,115
today that solar system isn't producing

2726
03:28:02,355 --> 03:28:06,295
probably 50 to 60% of what it's capable. Now

2727
03:28:06,515 --> 03:28:09,575
he mentioned a 40 to 45 year lease.

2728
03:28:11,785 --> 03:28:15,785
the moment that panel goes into existence, it starts

2729
03:28:16,635 --> 03:28:19,175
degrading. Now

2730
03:28:21,605 --> 03:28:24,595
40 years, what's that panel gonna give us?

2731
03:28:25,725 --> 03:28:27,885
maybe 50%, maybe 60

2732
03:28:30,495 --> 03:28:34,195
cloudy days. Not a hundred percent in production. So when

2733
03:28:34,555 --> 03:28:38,365
somebody tells me I'm gonna run 3000 houses off of that small

2734
03:28:38,795 --> 03:28:41,235
a hundred and some acres, 17 acres of farmland,

2735
03:28:43,215 --> 03:28:46,555
is that just from nine to four?

2736
03:28:48,025 --> 03:28:51,795
because most places the sun doesn't come up to hit it till about

2737
03:28:52,075 --> 03:28:55,855
nine. And after about four, you're losing the sun. So

2738
03:28:56,195 --> 03:29:00,155
now I've lost electricity. Now me as

2739
03:29:00,355 --> 03:29:04,315
a citizen standing here, how can I talk about this? I run my farm

2740
03:29:04,615 --> 03:29:08,175
on solar, have for 10 years, I have battery backup.

2741
03:29:09,615 --> 03:29:12,835
so yes, when the grid goes down, I am running. Y'all aren't,

2742
03:29:15,155 --> 03:29:19,005
there's a lot of other ways to make energy. Fusion would be one of them.

2743
03:29:19,215 --> 03:29:22,645
we're already looking at that in the southwestern part of virginia. Excellent option.

2744
03:29:24,115 --> 03:29:27,745
solar's not gonna get it. We could put a plant panel on every piece of property in

2745
03:29:28,365 --> 03:29:31,645
denwitty. We still wouldn't be able to supply our county with all the electricity.

2746
03:29:32,435 --> 03:29:36,385
data centers need the electricity of a small city. So

2747
03:29:36,605 --> 03:29:40,545
take hopewell that would supply one data center. It

2748
03:29:40,765 --> 03:29:44,725
doesn't matter what northern virginia wants to build. And we're not worrying about

2749
03:29:45,115 --> 03:29:48,925
blackouts and brownouts right now, like california is, and it's

2750
03:29:49,165 --> 03:29:52,865
not gonna happen tomorrow. And yes, we will need energy

2751
03:29:53,425 --> 03:29:56,905
if we're going to sustain data centers, but that solar panels

2752
03:29:57,745 --> 03:30:01,645
aren't gonna get it. Not today and not tomorrow. And unless you're

2753
03:30:01,965 --> 03:30:05,725
willing to cut off your power when the sun goes down or change

2754
03:30:06,005 --> 03:30:09,205
your lifestyle, it's not gonna happen.

2755
03:30:10,385 --> 03:30:13,485
I'm against it and I run on solar. Thank you.

2756
03:30:15,095 --> 03:30:15,445
thank you.

2757
03:30:19,695 --> 03:30:20,045
cindy harville.

2758
03:30:49,175 --> 03:30:52,805
cindy harville, 2 1 1 0 7 walker's pond drive

2759
03:30:53,455 --> 03:30:56,475
sutherland. Mr. Chairman, mr. Vice-chairman,

2760
03:30:57,615 --> 03:31:00,365
board members, residents of dimity and guests.

2761
03:31:01,715 --> 03:31:05,565
tonight I wanna share with you a fable, a story

2762
03:31:05,845 --> 03:31:09,725
of sorts that I believe addresses a need for caution

2763
03:31:10,795 --> 03:31:14,165
when it comes to allowing solar farm construction

2764
03:31:15,065 --> 03:31:18,235
in dim witty county. It's entitled the rat trap.

2765
03:31:19,105 --> 03:31:23,025
the author's unknown and it goes like this. A rat

2766
03:31:23,245 --> 03:31:27,235
looked through a crack in a farmhouse wall and he saw a farmer and his wife opening

2767
03:31:27,965 --> 03:31:31,405
a package. What food might it contain? He said to himself,

2768
03:31:33,065 --> 03:31:36,475
but he was shocked to discover that it was a rat trap.

2769
03:31:37,655 --> 03:31:41,635
retreating to the barnyard, the rat proclaimed the warning. There's

2770
03:31:42,125 --> 03:31:45,565
a rat trap in the house. There's a rat trap in the house.

2771
03:31:46,635 --> 03:31:50,185
well, the chicken clocked and scratched and raised her head and said, excuse

2772
03:31:50,665 --> 03:31:54,565
me, mr. Rat, I can tell this is really upsetting

2773
03:31:55,185 --> 03:31:59,005
you, but I don't

2774
03:31:59,205 --> 03:32:03,185
see what it has to do with me. The rat turned to the pig

2775
03:32:03,425 --> 03:32:07,275
and he said, there's a rat trap in the house. There's a rat trap

2776
03:32:07,865 --> 03:32:11,745
in the house. I'm sorry, said the pig, but

2777
03:32:12,315 --> 03:32:16,305
what can I do? But I really do feel bad for

2778
03:32:16,525 --> 03:32:19,945
you. And then a rat turned to the cow

2779
03:32:20,905 --> 03:32:24,865
and she said, hmm, a rat trap. You say, am

2780
03:32:25,285 --> 03:32:29,225
I in grave danger? I think not. So

2781
03:32:29,445 --> 03:32:32,565
the rat returned to the house head down and dejected

2782
03:32:33,505 --> 03:32:36,735
to face the farmer's rat trap all alone.

2783
03:32:37,595 --> 03:32:41,485
that very night, the sound of the rat trap catching its prey

2784
03:32:42,015 --> 03:32:45,965
could be heard throughout the house. The farmer's wife rushed to

2785
03:32:46,445 --> 03:32:50,285
investigate. And in the darkness she did not see that it

2786
03:32:50,485 --> 03:32:54,155
was a venomous snake whose tail was caught in the rat trap.

2787
03:32:55,145 --> 03:32:59,125
she reached down and the snake bit her. The farmer rushed her to the

2788
03:32:59,485 --> 03:33:02,485
hospital. She returned home with a fever.

2789
03:33:03,505 --> 03:33:07,115
now everyone knows you treat a fever with

2790
03:33:07,655 --> 03:33:11,125
fresh chicken soup. So the farmer

2791
03:33:11,915 --> 03:33:15,205
took his hatchet to the barnyard for the soup's main ingredient.

2792
03:33:17,065 --> 03:33:20,885
his wife's sickness continued. So friends and neighbors came to

2793
03:33:21,085 --> 03:33:24,675
sit with her around the clock to feed them.

2794
03:33:25,865 --> 03:33:28,385
the farmer butchered the pig.

2795
03:33:30,305 --> 03:33:33,715
and in the end, the farmer's wife didn't get well. She died.

2796
03:33:34,585 --> 03:33:38,505
and so many people came to her funeral that the

2797
03:33:38,725 --> 03:33:42,585
farmer had the cow slaughtered to provide meat for

2798
03:33:42,805 --> 03:33:46,805
them all to eat. As you

2799
03:33:47,005 --> 03:33:51,005
have heard tonight and on previous occasions, there

2800
03:33:51,385 --> 03:33:55,245
are a multitude of reasons why den

2801
03:33:55,575 --> 03:33:59,545
witty county should not jump on the

2802
03:33:59,775 --> 03:34:03,605
solar farm bandwagon. The one thing

2803
03:34:03,965 --> 03:34:07,755
I ask you to mindfully consider is this, what

2804
03:34:08,045 --> 03:34:11,825
affects one of us will eventually affect

2805
03:34:12,785 --> 03:34:16,715
all of us. We don't really know the

2806
03:34:16,935 --> 03:34:20,725
full impact of so that solar farms have on our land,

2807
03:34:21,555 --> 03:34:24,085
our water supply or our environment.

2808
03:34:26,075 --> 03:34:29,915
we just don't know. Please air on the

2809
03:34:30,325 --> 03:34:34,275
side of caution and vote no to

2810
03:34:34,495 --> 03:34:37,695
the rezoning associated with case p dash 25 8

2811
03:34:39,315 --> 03:34:42,895
and c 25 dash four. Be good stewards

2812
03:34:43,755 --> 03:34:47,465
of our county's beautiful rule lands.

2813
03:34:48,585 --> 03:34:50,895
thank you. Thank you.

2814
03:34:55,505 --> 03:34:57,215
grandville. Grandville maitland.

2815
03:35:16,575 --> 03:35:20,085
thank you mr. Chairman board. Um, grandville maitland.

2816
03:35:20,665 --> 03:35:24,665
I'm 13 4 10 butter wood lane. But that other end of the county, um,

2817
03:35:26,415 --> 03:35:29,945
y'all know my background farming and in

2818
03:35:31,305 --> 03:35:34,885
and also alternative energy sources, ethanol, different

2819
03:35:35,325 --> 03:35:39,205
things, diesel fuel, um, different things I have done. I have a brother-in-law

2820
03:35:40,235 --> 03:35:43,495
that built transmission lines into solar farms

2821
03:35:44,545 --> 03:35:48,525
and into windmills in the west. When he

2822
03:35:48,645 --> 03:35:52,305
went out there after leaving virginia power, he was gung ho

2823
03:35:53,835 --> 03:35:57,745
when he came back. He said the destruction and

2824
03:35:59,035 --> 03:36:02,665
what it did to the environment there, he had no use for

2825
03:36:03,105 --> 03:36:06,025
any of it right there. Um,

2826
03:36:07,785 --> 03:36:11,325
it bothers me. I consider mr. Flowers a friend

2827
03:36:11,825 --> 03:36:14,455
and a mentor. But this is not about jimmy.

2828
03:36:16,315 --> 03:36:19,865
this is about land that I look for the, um,

2829
03:36:20,515 --> 03:36:24,345
when I was on the planning commission, part of this was in the

2830
03:36:24,925 --> 03:36:28,595
corridor development corridor back there when

2831
03:36:28,945 --> 03:36:32,845
guy was a planter. Alright? We looked at a lot of this.

2832
03:36:33,675 --> 03:36:37,465
this land is actually actually too valuable a land to

2833
03:36:37,685 --> 03:36:41,565
be putting in solar right there. And I know the

2834
03:36:41,725 --> 03:36:45,365
lifespan and how they work. And I cannot support

2835
03:36:45,845 --> 03:36:49,845
solar anyway in inwood county commercial solar because it's not a

2836
03:36:49,965 --> 03:36:53,685
farm. It's a, it is a industrial operation right there.

2837
03:36:54,785 --> 03:36:58,785
but I do feel that the

2838
03:36:59,005 --> 03:37:02,265
land is too valuable for the development in denver county.

2839
03:37:03,545 --> 03:37:07,445
and actually for mr. Flowers down the road, it's gonna be so

2840
03:37:07,605 --> 03:37:11,205
much more valuable because of industry and things. It's gonna come in.

2841
03:37:11,845 --> 03:37:15,765
'cause I look at that whole area all the way up, basically to all your store

2842
03:37:17,105 --> 03:37:20,135
in the future. It's going to be commercial industrial

2843
03:37:22,135 --> 03:37:26,025
down through there. It's when, um, a lot

2844
03:37:26,145 --> 03:37:29,935
of people, uh, weren't around or didn't think about it. We lost

2845
03:37:30,895 --> 03:37:34,585
some industrial because, um, king's dominion

2846
03:37:35,085 --> 03:37:38,785
wanted to be in denwitty county. We did not have the infrastructure

2847
03:37:39,765 --> 03:37:43,665
and things to handle it at the time. And that hurt what it could

2848
03:37:43,785 --> 03:37:47,785
have been. The racetrack could have been here if some people hadn't gotten

2849
03:37:48,005 --> 03:37:51,685
greedy right there. And so

2850
03:37:52,145 --> 03:37:55,455
I look at a lot of that area is going to grow, grow fast,

2851
03:37:56,565 --> 03:38:00,505
and it's gonna be very profitable for the people, even though some of

2852
03:38:00,625 --> 03:38:04,505
the people will probably have, uh, lose their houses to the industrial as they

2853
03:38:04,885 --> 03:38:08,825
expand. But they will be well compensated. And I

2854
03:38:08,945 --> 03:38:12,345
think solar is not the way to go. If you are looking at data centers

2855
03:38:13,205 --> 03:38:16,545
and the amount of power they need, then you better go micro

2856
03:38:17,225 --> 03:38:21,135
nucle or something like that. That is the only way that

2857
03:38:21,425 --> 03:38:24,515
you're going to, um, do the data centers. Northern virginia loves

2858
03:38:25,485 --> 03:38:29,385
to talk about the energy use, but they don't want the solar panels up there.

2859
03:38:30,935 --> 03:38:34,725
they want 'em in a rural areas and let us, and it is a net

2860
03:38:35,425 --> 03:38:39,345
negative by the end of the cycle of that. What, what they give for

2861
03:38:39,545 --> 03:38:43,325
the schools, what they give to the county up front. But

2862
03:38:43,605 --> 03:38:47,265
it is a net energy loss when you get down to it.

2863
03:38:48,115 --> 03:38:50,865
thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

2864
03:38:53,945 --> 03:38:53,945
stephanie jones.

2865
03:39:09,475 --> 03:39:12,925
good evening. My name is stephanie jones and I am a landowner

2866
03:39:13,595 --> 03:39:17,325
here in dewitte county. I was fortunate enough

2867
03:39:17,785 --> 03:39:21,555
to inherit land here, and I have been pondering on the idea

2868
03:39:21,945 --> 03:39:25,925
of what to do with my land. I have just been paying taxing on it, and the

2869
03:39:26,085 --> 03:39:29,965
land has been dormant since the passing of my father. I feel

2870
03:39:30,205 --> 03:39:33,225
that hosting a solar farm here in county

2871
03:39:34,235 --> 03:39:38,145
will be a great opportunity for both, um, the

2872
03:39:38,365 --> 03:39:42,155
county and us. It will, the land will

2873
03:39:42,445 --> 03:39:46,425
be preserved. It provides the opportunity for dewin county to

2874
03:39:46,645 --> 03:39:48,825
move towards a brighter and more substantial future.

2875
03:39:52,065 --> 03:39:55,115
um, I just want to say that, you know, I think that

2876
03:39:57,065 --> 03:40:00,905
the people, the landowners need to have some kind of right as

2877
03:40:01,145 --> 03:40:04,895
to what they want to do with their property. Um, their

2878
03:40:05,565 --> 03:40:08,965
property. When their property is not being used for anything.

2879
03:40:10,185 --> 03:40:14,005
and someone decided that, hey, this is an idea that I agree

2880
03:40:14,325 --> 03:40:18,145
with. Um, I think that the landowner should have the right to

2881
03:40:18,365 --> 03:40:22,025
have some kind of opinion into what's going on as,

2882
03:40:22,605 --> 03:40:26,525
'cause we do pay property taxes on this land. And I just

2883
03:40:26,685 --> 03:40:30,435
feel we should have a opinion. So I just want to say that

2884
03:40:30,885 --> 03:40:34,795
I am in full support of the flower. So solar farm

2885
03:40:35,425 --> 03:40:39,165
and respectfully ask that the projects do be approved. Thank you.

2886
03:40:40,255 --> 03:40:41,005
thank you, thank you.

2887
03:40:44,305 --> 03:40:44,305
robert moore.

2888
03:40:49,265 --> 03:40:52,505
uh, mr. Chairman, members of the board, my name's robert moore, 2 3 9 0 0

2889
03:40:53,915 --> 03:40:57,805
cutbank road. Mckenney. Uh, I'm not in favor of the solar

2890
03:40:58,185 --> 03:41:02,165
panels. There's been just too much negative, uh, things to go

2891
03:41:02,425 --> 03:41:06,235
on about 'em. Like the one lady, uh, mentioned the the solar fire.

2892
03:41:07,085 --> 03:41:11,045
a solar fire. A solar farm fire. Like she said, it ran for two

2893
03:41:11,205 --> 03:41:15,085
days. There was one in, uh, I think north carolina that ran for seven days.

2894
03:41:16,185 --> 03:41:19,915
our infrastructure can't handle something like that. You know, then

2895
03:41:20,205 --> 03:41:24,005
what? He's a, an agricultural county. Well, I'm sorry,

2896
03:41:25,345 --> 03:41:28,185
not used to speak in front of people , but, um,

2897
03:41:29,515 --> 03:41:33,265
there's too many negative things that they don't know. Um, the impact

2898
03:41:33,685 --> 03:41:37,415
on the, on the soil, the water systems. Uh, again,

2899
03:41:37,765 --> 03:41:41,605
like the road said, the guy said that they, they're gonna maintain a road. He'd never told anybody

2900
03:41:42,035 --> 03:41:45,975
what they're gonna do to maintain that road. And like the other lady said, trucks going

2901
03:41:46,325 --> 03:41:50,285
through there, yeah, that's gonna disrupt them. And they're saying a nine month

2902
03:41:50,525 --> 03:41:54,525
period. They built solar panels like that down by my brother's house. It took 'em a

2903
03:41:54,605 --> 03:41:58,565
year and a half. So it's not, you know, you now construction things go,

2904
03:41:58,765 --> 03:42:01,205
they don't work in the rain, they don't work in the snow.

2905
03:42:02,785 --> 03:42:06,535
and I just totally don't believe that solar

2906
03:42:06,985 --> 03:42:10,705
is the, the answer for an agricultural county. And I'm,

2907
03:42:11,205 --> 03:42:14,935
I I I strongly urge you not to, not to approve this. Thank

2908
03:42:15,285 --> 03:42:16,445
you. Thank you. Thank you.

2909
03:42:19,375 --> 03:42:20,045
billy c

2910
03:42:43,165 --> 03:42:46,865
mr. Chap members of the board on billy c at 80

2911
03:42:47,185 --> 03:42:49,665
20 courthouse road, church road, virginia.

2912
03:42:54,735 --> 03:42:57,405
this meeting tonight is not about, um,

2913
03:42:58,995 --> 03:43:02,945
jimmy flowers. It's about the income

2914
03:43:03,425 --> 03:43:07,285
for the, uh, the county. What are we going to do with this piece of

2915
03:43:07,445 --> 03:43:10,665
land across there? We've granted, um,

2916
03:43:11,615 --> 03:43:15,525
these, um, solar farms in other parts of the

2917
03:43:15,685 --> 03:43:19,585
county. When you go by 'em, you drive your car by

2918
03:43:19,965 --> 03:43:23,805
'em, you see 'em. And I'm sure each member has looked at the

2919
03:43:24,685 --> 03:43:28,345
location that this has been asked to,

2920
03:43:28,705 --> 03:43:32,065
uh, build there. And the railroad track is

2921
03:43:32,765 --> 03:43:36,505
actually a plus for the appearance of this. You'll

2922
03:43:36,925 --> 03:43:39,975
never see the panels. You're going down four 60

2923
03:43:41,115 --> 03:43:44,725
into my opinion. You won't even notice 'em over there. 'cause the railroad track,

2924
03:43:45,565 --> 03:43:47,145
the woods there, it blocks it.

2925
03:43:50,075 --> 03:43:53,005
what do we do with that piece of land over there for the future?

2926
03:43:56,065 --> 03:43:58,685
are we going to build industrial buildings over there?

2927
03:44:00,265 --> 03:44:04,165
the members of this board represent the people that voted for you.

2928
03:44:05,485 --> 03:44:09,275
I think it's a tax situation. What is the best, highest

2929
03:44:09,905 --> 03:44:13,585
and best use for the county to

2930
03:44:14,275 --> 03:44:17,275
have this property? Is it to raise beans and corn

2931
03:44:19,665 --> 03:44:23,245
or let these people put this project on there?

2932
03:44:24,505 --> 03:44:28,405
the county is gonna realize more profit from that. And I

2933
03:44:28,525 --> 03:44:32,445
think that's what you have to look at. The taxpayers up

2934
03:44:32,605 --> 03:44:36,285
there on route 40. They have something to do with this.

2935
03:44:38,495 --> 03:44:42,335
they should have a say. It'll help each

2936
03:44:42,685 --> 03:44:46,545
one of these board members in the tax situation. I think

2937
03:44:47,645 --> 03:44:51,365
you just built a tennis court across the road. This project may

2938
03:44:51,685 --> 03:44:54,795
pay for that. You have to look at dollars and cents

2939
03:44:56,885 --> 03:45:00,725
and these people that are oppose it, um,

2940
03:45:01,525 --> 03:45:04,865
you know, I think they got good points.

2941
03:45:06,015 --> 03:45:08,525
they really do. And, uh,

2942
03:45:10,215 --> 03:45:13,565
they're giving their opinion on it. And

2943
03:45:14,285 --> 03:45:17,825
I'm giving you my opinion and I'm looking at highest

2944
03:45:18,365 --> 03:45:22,285
and best use for the county. I'm looking for those tax dollars to

2945
03:45:22,505 --> 03:45:26,135
run in here, not to go out. Look,

2946
03:45:26,565 --> 03:45:30,525
we don't have to have any police cars that don't have to

2947
03:45:30,645 --> 03:45:33,655
get two more deputies. The fire department,

2948
03:45:35,465 --> 03:45:39,275
the emergency crew. You know, they're not putting the stress over

2949
03:45:39,565 --> 03:45:42,065
this project. Um,

2950
03:45:47,965 --> 03:45:51,825
I wrote y'all some notes and I don't let one by

2951
03:45:52,045 --> 03:45:55,805
because I listened to the objections that the others had here.

2952
03:45:57,185 --> 03:46:00,625
and, uh, but, uh,

2953
03:46:01,375 --> 03:46:05,115
we're not gonna have to educate the children with this project. Schools

2954
03:46:05,755 --> 03:46:09,285
cost us a lot of money. We gotta think of these dollars.

2955
03:46:09,945 --> 03:46:13,005
we gotta make it profitable for the county, not jimmy flowers.

2956
03:46:14,115 --> 03:46:16,845
look, jimmy flowers, he probably don't need to have the project.

2957
03:46:19,105 --> 03:46:21,505
the county should be thinking him to,

2958
03:46:23,305 --> 03:46:27,245
you know, let, let 'em use the project for the

2959
03:46:27,445 --> 03:46:27,445
county.

2960
03:46:31,505 --> 03:46:35,375
we need sheets and walmarts and wawas

2961
03:46:36,595 --> 03:46:40,435
that gives us income. And that's what this board is for. It's

2962
03:46:40,745 --> 03:46:44,435
all about the income and I don't think it's

2963
03:46:44,865 --> 03:46:48,125
unsafe. We've granted it in other parts of the county.

2964
03:46:49,345 --> 03:46:53,075
and I hope you gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, make the right decision tonight.

2965
03:46:55,225 --> 03:46:59,045
not for an individual your personal thank,

2966
03:46:59,545 --> 03:47:03,495
but for the county as a whole. Thank you for your time. Thank

2967
03:47:03,845 --> 03:47:04,525
you. Thank you,

2968
03:47:08,375 --> 03:47:08,835
susan seaward.

2969
03:47:19,705 --> 03:47:23,445
uh, good evening, uh, chairman lee, board members county administrator,

2970
03:47:24,035 --> 03:47:27,885
mass and gilland county staff. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to address

2971
03:47:28,165 --> 03:47:32,125
you this evening regarding flower solar. Um, while I have the

2972
03:47:32,325 --> 03:47:35,525
privilege of knowing some of you, I think more of you probably remember my mother,

2973
03:47:36,425 --> 03:47:39,845
uh, troll and seward, the former superintendent of schools here in denwitty.

2974
03:47:40,625 --> 03:47:44,605
she had actually, um, tried to come with me this evening. Something came up, but she

2975
03:47:44,805 --> 03:47:48,545
said to please give you all her most sincere regards. Um,

2976
03:47:48,905 --> 03:47:52,045
she really enjoyed her time in denwitty and, and was hoping to come with me,

2977
03:47:53,025 --> 03:47:56,575
but not here to talk about mother here to talk about flowers solar.

2978
03:47:57,905 --> 03:48:01,645
um, I can tell you, as a former member of the sussex county

2979
03:48:01,925 --> 03:48:04,725
board of supervisors, I have been in your shoes.

2980
03:48:06,165 --> 03:48:09,365
I am keenly aware of the public pressure you feel because people

2981
03:48:10,195 --> 03:48:14,145
just don't like solar. However, I'm willing to bet

2982
03:48:14,365 --> 03:48:18,325
that everyone, every single person that doesn't like solar, including those

2983
03:48:18,605 --> 03:48:22,445
opposed to this project, love electricity. I love

2984
03:48:22,965 --> 03:48:26,125
electricity. And that's why this project deserves your support.

2985
03:48:27,655 --> 03:48:31,645
we've heard the warnings this evening from the presentation, uh, from pjm,

2986
03:48:32,245 --> 03:48:36,045
from the former chair of ferc, mark christie, state officials and an

2987
03:48:36,485 --> 03:48:40,465
electric co-op ceo. Unfortunately, we are headed for

2988
03:48:40,805 --> 03:48:42,465
a real electric generation crisis.

2989
03:48:44,875 --> 03:48:48,725
keep in mind, our regional generation supply, surrey county

2990
03:48:49,025 --> 03:48:52,885
has a nuclear power station. Greensville and brunswick counties have major

2991
03:48:53,365 --> 03:48:57,325
dominion natural gas plants. And for now, halifax has the clover coal-fired

2992
03:48:57,925 --> 03:49:00,485
power station that is running, in essence is a peaker.

2993
03:49:02,025 --> 03:49:06,005
the chesterfield plant that was mentioned earlier this evening is going to be another

2994
03:49:06,245 --> 03:49:10,005
natural gas plant. However, that is running into some serious headwinds

2995
03:49:10,605 --> 03:49:14,525
from the environmental community. I think dominion is counting

2996
03:49:14,665 --> 03:49:17,885
on that being built, but, you know, will it get approved?

2997
03:49:19,505 --> 03:49:23,505
the other issue that's been mentioned, and, and I agree with that, I think fusion is

2998
03:49:23,725 --> 03:49:27,605
certainly a power source of the future, but dominion in their

2999
03:49:27,765 --> 03:49:31,485
latest integrated resource plan doesn't even factor in the nuclear,

3000
03:49:32,145 --> 03:49:35,985
uh, fusion small reactors. Best case scenario is

3001
03:49:36,205 --> 03:49:40,025
10 years out. What we're facing now is a power gap.

3002
03:49:41,305 --> 03:49:45,035
and forms like this distributed can help fill that

3003
03:49:45,465 --> 03:49:49,365
gap. You know, what's gonna happen? We've got

3004
03:49:49,485 --> 03:49:52,875
our base load generation, but we've got energy deserts.

3005
03:49:53,905 --> 03:49:57,905
the data center industry is coming, it's not going away. What's

3006
03:49:58,325 --> 03:50:02,285
going to happen to these low density population areas?

3007
03:50:03,425 --> 03:50:07,285
and I think the answer is, is, is simple but dire. The electrons

3008
03:50:07,605 --> 03:50:11,395
are gonna go across the grid to serve high qua, high density, high

3009
03:50:11,685 --> 03:50:15,505
demand centers, and place pockets like this in, in

3010
03:50:15,725 --> 03:50:19,605
situations where they're facing the brown brownouts and blackouts. We are looking

3011
03:50:19,825 --> 03:50:23,485
at a project like this right now in sussex county, and I desperately hope it's

3012
03:50:23,925 --> 03:50:26,405
approved because I don't want to be sitting in the dark in two years.

3013
03:50:28,585 --> 03:50:32,365
one of the biggest gripes I have heard, and I have sat through

3014
03:50:32,605 --> 03:50:36,335
like you all, many a hearing on, on solar projects of all shapes and sizes.

3015
03:50:37,345 --> 03:50:40,925
but one of the biggest complaints I heard as a supervisor and as a citizen

3016
03:50:41,905 --> 03:50:44,845
is all of our land is going to power northern virginia.

3017
03:50:46,105 --> 03:50:49,715
that's the thing about these, these distributed projects, the power does

3018
03:50:50,155 --> 03:50:53,405
stay local. And yes, the sun doesn't shine 24 7,

3019
03:50:54,945 --> 03:50:58,715
but at least with these projects, there is an offset because

3020
03:50:59,345 --> 03:51:03,305
the, the crisis that's looming relative to generation cannot

3021
03:51:03,865 --> 03:51:07,125
be underestimated. You know,

3022
03:51:08,235 --> 03:51:12,165
from from one former elected official. You all have more stay in power than I

3023
03:51:12,285 --> 03:51:16,185
did. I could only do two terms. But I think the question you

3024
03:51:16,405 --> 03:51:19,085
have to ask, and the question I would ask when I was on the board

3025
03:51:20,505 --> 03:51:24,365
is a few disgruntled citizens today were sacrificing

3026
03:51:25,165 --> 03:51:28,965
electric generation for many, many others tomorrow. And I think that's what you're

3027
03:51:29,205 --> 03:51:32,885
facing here with this project, have been in your position

3028
03:51:33,225 --> 03:51:37,205
for, for eight years in sussex. And, and I know that one of the

3029
03:51:37,325 --> 03:51:41,325
things we have to do is not only govern for today, but we have to plan for five and 10

3030
03:51:41,525 --> 03:51:45,285
and 20 years down the road. And what we're facing in the next five

3031
03:51:45,565 --> 03:51:49,565
years is an energy crisis that is, is entirely

3032
03:51:49,745 --> 03:51:53,685
really out of our control. But we certainly have the ability with projects

3033
03:51:54,205 --> 03:51:58,165
like this to help fill the gap until fusion, uh, and more

3034
03:51:58,365 --> 03:52:01,745
natural gas plants can come online. So, um,

3035
03:52:02,485 --> 03:52:06,125
I would urge you really to consider this project strongly for your citizens

3036
03:52:07,005 --> 03:52:10,925
tomorrow. Uh, knowing what we're facing. Thank you. Thank you.

3037
03:52:14,855 --> 03:52:14,855
james flowers.

3038
03:52:23,235 --> 03:52:26,405
good evening. I'm james flowers. I live at 68

3039
03:52:27,485 --> 03:52:30,245
11th courthouse road church road, virginia.

3040
03:52:32,285 --> 03:52:34,905
I am a lifelong resident of denver county.

3041
03:52:36,565 --> 03:52:39,855
I have, my family has actually been in this county

3042
03:52:41,075 --> 03:52:44,665
and paid taxes in this county for 150 years.

3043
03:52:46,475 --> 03:52:49,695
so, um, we are pretty well invested in denver, the county.

3044
03:52:51,675 --> 03:52:53,865
and I like the other eight

3045
03:52:56,345 --> 03:53:00,225
owners of this land and pay taxes similar to what my

3046
03:53:00,445 --> 03:53:04,045
family has done. And we would like to put the solar

3047
03:53:04,585 --> 03:53:06,945
panels on this property that we own.

3048
03:53:08,785 --> 03:53:12,625
I also have a special reason. I have a daughter who is

3049
03:53:13,105 --> 03:53:17,105
handicapped. Libby is a microcephalic. She needs

3050
03:53:17,445 --> 03:53:21,165
24 7 cap. She,

3051
03:53:22,125 --> 03:53:25,665
she is severely handicapped and that she's hard to get, get around,

3052
03:53:26,765 --> 03:53:30,505
has difficulty. That and her mother and I being in our

3053
03:53:30,865 --> 03:53:34,665
eighties, going to have to have help in the house and all in this money,

3054
03:53:35,715 --> 03:53:39,515
which is very expensive, would be a help to that. But let's

3055
03:53:39,865 --> 03:53:43,685
move on to the project at hand. You

3056
03:53:43,905 --> 03:53:47,905
have walmart, you have the railroad, norfolk southern,

3057
03:53:48,165 --> 03:53:51,535
you have tylo concrete, you have bulk,

3058
03:53:52,565 --> 03:53:56,215
all of which are important for den whi county. However, they

3059
03:53:56,605 --> 03:54:00,385
all have drawbacks. They put pressure

3060
03:54:00,765 --> 03:54:04,625
on our roads with tremendous road traffic. The railroad

3061
03:54:05,165 --> 03:54:08,865
itself basically carries products through den whi county.

3062
03:54:09,845 --> 03:54:13,845
we then whi gets very little direct money or

3063
03:54:14,415 --> 03:54:18,265
help from the rail. Uh, and yet it goes

3064
03:54:18,535 --> 03:54:21,195
down our tracks. It blocks public roads.

3065
03:54:23,305 --> 03:54:27,205
excuse me, it it blocks public roads. And not only

3066
03:54:27,545 --> 03:54:31,065
the coal cars that go down this road, uh,

3067
03:54:31,825 --> 03:54:35,655
are not covered. There's coal dust on the joint. Props

3068
03:54:36,005 --> 03:54:39,345
as where these trains have gone along. Move on to walmart tender

3069
03:54:40,025 --> 03:54:43,965
and all, all the good, good and necessary. But they

3070
03:54:44,265 --> 03:54:48,165
had problems in the county, which I've said about traffic on the

3071
03:54:48,325 --> 03:54:52,325
roads, dust in the air, and particularly like tyndall,

3072
03:54:53,865 --> 03:54:57,765
the product that they use in there. Cement, which is very caustic.

3073
03:54:59,185 --> 03:55:02,285
so let's move on to the west end of this project.

3074
03:55:04,105 --> 03:55:07,405
the transmission lines of electric

3075
03:55:08,385 --> 03:55:12,085
and, and dominion energy. They're not

3076
03:55:12,435 --> 03:55:16,165
putting any current, basically in this county. It's a transmission.

3077
03:55:17,155 --> 03:55:21,145
they're transmission lines. They go into other areas, which is

3078
03:55:21,365 --> 03:55:24,445
needed in other areas, but it does not basically benefit

3079
03:55:26,405 --> 03:55:30,195
denwood county as such. So then

3080
03:55:30,485 --> 03:55:34,365
you get residential areas that surround this whole project.

3081
03:55:35,345 --> 03:55:39,035
we, people need a place to live and work,

3082
03:55:39,985 --> 03:55:43,395
but they don't work here. Basically very few. They

3083
03:55:44,145 --> 03:55:47,885
get all their goods and services outside the county. They work

3084
03:55:48,235 --> 03:55:52,115
outside the county and yet they want water and sewage. They

3085
03:55:52,405 --> 03:55:55,885
want police protection. They want their kids to go to our schools,

3086
03:55:56,815 --> 03:56:00,725
which one person or child and their

3087
03:56:01,065 --> 03:56:04,765
family goes to the school in then with a county.

3088
03:56:05,625 --> 03:56:08,725
it erases the money that they have spent in taxes.

3089
03:56:10,025 --> 03:56:13,965
but because it's very expensive and finally we get back

3090
03:56:14,165 --> 03:56:17,815
to the private at hand, it is outta sight.

3091
03:56:19,225 --> 03:56:22,915
nobody can see it. It's quiet, it doesn't put dust

3092
03:56:23,345 --> 03:56:27,145
up, it doesn't rumble and, and blast and

3093
03:56:27,395 --> 03:56:31,345
make hazard shake it. It is on benefit the

3094
03:56:31,565 --> 03:56:35,365
county. It's really a win-win situation for the county.

3095
03:56:36,065 --> 03:56:39,725
it is not money going out the treasury of denwoody county.

3096
03:56:40,475 --> 03:56:44,085
it's money coming to the denwoody county. And it's not asking

3097
03:56:44,625 --> 03:56:48,485
for schools, it's not asking for battle roads or anything like this. It

3098
03:56:48,795 --> 03:56:52,725
sits over there as quiet. It is protected with a

3099
03:56:53,105 --> 03:56:56,845
boiler all the way around it. And it's a benefit to the county

3100
03:56:58,345 --> 03:57:01,725
and it is something that will benefit them with the county,

3101
03:57:02,905 --> 03:57:06,555
not cause it to have problems. So I'm very

3102
03:57:07,105 --> 03:57:11,085
fa favorable for this project to go in. And I

3103
03:57:11,205 --> 03:57:15,085
think it's a place the right of ways are restricted on

3104
03:57:15,285 --> 03:57:17,675
this property and therefore

3105
03:57:19,925 --> 03:57:23,645
industry and farming really can be going on on this property because

3106
03:57:24,425 --> 03:57:28,375
of the restrictions on the railroads. So they were low solar

3107
03:57:28,865 --> 03:57:32,725
panels. So I think this is a very good project for denwood

3108
03:57:32,965 --> 03:57:36,005
county and I thank you for letting me talk to the group.

3109
03:57:37,655 --> 03:57:38,405
thank you. Thank you

3110
03:57:42,825 --> 03:57:43,385
tilden manson.

3111
03:57:52,675 --> 03:57:56,135
um, good evening board members. My name is tilden manson. I live at 7 0 1 6

3112
03:57:57,915 --> 03:58:01,805
and road church road, virginia. Uh, this

3113
03:58:02,125 --> 03:58:04,115
land has been in my family since my great-great-grandmother.

3114
03:58:06,135 --> 03:58:10,055
I wanted to build a house in 1990. I, I was told

3115
03:58:10,415 --> 03:58:13,705
I could not build on that site. These,

3116
03:58:14,835 --> 03:58:18,315
it was, uh, agricultural land they told me. So

3117
03:58:19,515 --> 03:58:23,065
we built the house in church road, which

3118
03:58:23,595 --> 03:58:27,325
was another family plot, but I had to buy that land.

3119
03:58:28,315 --> 03:58:32,235
and my grandmother had passed us on to me in 1990 as

3120
03:58:32,535 --> 03:58:35,415
a 18-year-old man, I started paying taxes.

3121
03:58:37,335 --> 03:58:40,575
I worked for 34 and a half years in a chemical plant,

3122
03:58:41,605 --> 03:58:45,275
breathing more chemicals than the average person could ever take in.

3123
03:58:46,835 --> 03:58:50,175
but I'm thinking about my family generational wealth.

3124
03:58:51,075 --> 03:58:55,035
and this project is for not just me,

3125
03:58:55,475 --> 03:58:58,605
but my kids. I couldn't benefit anything from this

3126
03:58:59,555 --> 03:59:02,105
for the last 35 plus years.

3127
03:59:04,035 --> 03:59:07,135
and now it's my turn to get back to my family

3128
03:59:08,835 --> 03:59:12,235
in the next generation after them. And

3129
03:59:14,535 --> 03:59:17,015
I know y'all have different sides and different opinions,

3130
03:59:18,915 --> 03:59:22,415
but like mr. Flowers just said, it's a benefit

3131
03:59:23,235 --> 03:59:27,095
to everyone in our community. Uh, I hunt

3132
03:59:27,335 --> 03:59:30,995
that land every day I can. And

3133
03:59:31,915 --> 03:59:35,215
the landowners talk about the animals in that,

3134
03:59:36,275 --> 03:59:40,085
in that area. And if you sit there in the middle of the night like

3135
03:59:40,455 --> 03:59:44,365
I do when I predator hunt, there's a coyotes

3136
03:59:45,005 --> 03:59:48,235
problem in that neighborhood. And

3137
03:59:49,195 --> 03:59:52,645
you see 15 or 25 killing cats, dogs,

3138
03:59:53,605 --> 03:59:55,865
baby calves. But who cares?

3139
03:59:57,935 --> 04:00:01,915
I mean, I can't use the land for nothing else but what this project is

3140
04:00:02,135 --> 04:00:06,065
getting ready to do. And that's all I have to say. Thank

3141
04:00:06,415 --> 04:00:10,295
you. Thank you. Thank you. Taylor

3142
04:00:10,795 --> 04:00:10,795
manson.

3143
04:00:20,715 --> 04:00:24,435
good evening. My name is taylor manson. I live on anderson mill, wait,

3144
04:00:24,725 --> 04:00:28,265
sorry, 7 0 1 6 anderson mill road. And

3145
04:00:29,085 --> 04:00:32,525
I wanna talk about the primary things, what this will be doing to our county.

3146
04:00:33,225 --> 04:00:36,845
and being active in the four h extension service has helped me

3147
04:00:37,325 --> 04:00:41,145
research the sorry of a solar project in

3148
04:00:41,365 --> 04:00:45,265
our county. And I will briefly share with you one, the economic boost for

3149
04:00:45,485 --> 04:00:49,365
our county is the, uh, the flower solar project is projected to bring significant

3150
04:00:50,995 --> 04:00:54,505
fascial con contributions to dim woody through tax revenue and local job

3151
04:00:55,205 --> 04:00:58,475
creation. A solar development attracts investments without requiring

3152
04:00:59,855 --> 04:01:03,625
major public infrastructure infrastructures, upgrades, making

3153
04:01:04,065 --> 04:01:07,555
it a cost effective growth strategy to long-term revenue.

3154
04:01:08,305 --> 04:01:12,165
sta stability, solar farms provide predictable long-term

3155
04:01:12,855 --> 04:01:16,705
lease payments to and consistent tax income

3156
04:01:17,545 --> 04:01:21,525
for the country, for the county. Especially valuable in rural

3157
04:01:21,725 --> 04:01:25,365
areas with limited commercial tax base. Three preserves

3158
04:01:25,915 --> 04:01:29,845
agriculture character. Unlike industrial and development, solar

3159
04:01:30,175 --> 04:01:33,725
farms are low impact and reversible. They allow lands to

3160
04:01:34,275 --> 04:01:37,925
rest and regenerate and can be decommissioned without permanent alterations

3161
04:01:38,625 --> 04:01:41,765
to the landscape. Four supports energy independence.

3162
04:01:43,055 --> 04:01:46,245
local solar generation reduces reliance on international,

3163
04:01:47,145 --> 04:01:51,005
I'm sorry, external energy sources. Insulating dim woody

3164
04:01:51,365 --> 04:01:54,795
from volatile fuel prices and supply chain disruptions.

3165
04:01:56,075 --> 04:01:59,825
five. Environmental stewardship. Solar energy reduces greenhouse gas

3166
04:02:00,365 --> 04:02:03,605
emissions and air pollution. Aligning with the broader sustainability

3167
04:02:04,415 --> 04:02:07,845
goals in protecting the local eco ecosystem. Six, compatible

3168
04:02:08,445 --> 04:02:12,365
with rural land use, ities open land and low population

3169
04:02:12,965 --> 04:02:16,845
density make it ideal for utility scale solar projects

3170
04:02:17,405 --> 04:02:20,845
that wouldn't be fe feasible in urbanized count counties.

3171
04:02:21,735 --> 04:02:24,795
seven, community investment opportunities.

3172
04:02:26,215 --> 04:02:30,035
solar developers often contribute to local initiatives such

3173
04:02:30,325 --> 04:02:34,125
as education infrastructure or con conservative programs

3174
04:02:34,985 --> 04:02:38,845
as part of their community engagement plans. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

3175
04:02:39,085 --> 04:02:39,645
you. Thank you

3176
04:02:44,465 --> 04:02:44,885
alicia manson.

3177
04:02:57,155 --> 04:03:00,925
good evening, uh, chair, vice chair and county

3178
04:03:01,285 --> 04:03:05,095
administrator once again. I stand before you and the board. Thank

3179
04:03:05,445 --> 04:03:09,005
you for having me to speak. I must tell you I am a supporter

3180
04:03:10,105 --> 04:03:14,025
of the solar project and yes, if you heard that last name, manson.

3181
04:03:14,585 --> 04:03:18,445
manson manson. Well this is alicia manson and I live at

3182
04:03:18,605 --> 04:03:21,635
7 0 1 6 anderson mill road in church road.

3183
04:03:23,145 --> 04:03:26,965
and I am also a family member. And my husband just spoke

3184
04:03:27,235 --> 04:03:30,665
very passionately and almost had me crying over there. I really, really,

3185
04:03:31,305 --> 04:03:35,225
um, uh, feel a lot, uh, for what he

3186
04:03:35,745 --> 04:03:39,585
has been through and has been going through. So

3187
04:03:40,745 --> 04:03:44,705
my current role, and I think this helps to, um, support what I'm

3188
04:03:44,925 --> 04:03:48,765
trying to impart on you all tonight. Mr. Massing already

3189
04:03:49,205 --> 04:03:53,105
knows, you've seen me too before. I've, uh, used to be the, uh,

3190
04:03:53,325 --> 04:03:57,085
nurse manager for the creative health district for vdh, but I do currently

3191
04:03:57,485 --> 04:04:00,965
work for the military. Now I am the patient safety, infection

3192
04:04:01,555 --> 04:04:05,485
control preventionist at kenner. One of the main things that I

3193
04:04:05,605 --> 04:04:09,305
do is risk assessment, risk management all

3194
04:04:09,705 --> 04:04:13,565
day long. And although it is a clinic, there's a whole lot

3195
04:04:13,765 --> 04:04:17,645
of stuff going on out there at kenner. There's some of you military that may be in

3196
04:04:17,805 --> 04:04:21,645
here if you are beneficiaries. Yeah, I'm one of those people that's

3197
04:04:22,045 --> 04:04:26,045
kind of keeping you all safe out there. 'cause you may not know some things

3198
04:04:26,205 --> 04:04:30,025
going on that I do risk assessments for. This. One

3199
04:04:30,245 --> 04:04:33,745
thing about this project with the risk assessment, um,

3200
04:04:35,245 --> 04:04:38,845
I did research, and this is not a google ai type of research.

3201
04:04:39,765 --> 04:04:42,845
I actually looked through some things with the greenlight project.

3202
04:04:44,005 --> 04:04:48,005
I actually looked at some things with some projects in north carolina, some research that

3203
04:04:48,245 --> 04:04:51,955
was done in 2013. They

3204
04:04:52,295 --> 04:04:56,085
began to look at the efficacy of solar power panels and how it's

3205
04:04:56,365 --> 04:05:00,135
working and then how long it's going to be working and all of that good stuff we've

3206
04:05:00,485 --> 04:05:03,875
been hearing tonight. But I must tell you, we heard about fire,

3207
04:05:05,305 --> 04:05:08,085
we heard about things leaching into the ground.

3208
04:05:09,465 --> 04:05:13,405
one of those many studies I'll tell you about tonight. And I gotta look at it because

3209
04:05:13,805 --> 04:05:17,625
I never remember off my head. I'm getting older, you know, I can't remember things off

3210
04:05:17,845 --> 04:05:21,005
of my head. This particular research began in 2013.

3211
04:05:23,105 --> 04:05:26,685
it ran to may of 2017. However, it still

3212
04:05:27,205 --> 04:05:29,965
continues today. It was completed again, like I said in north carolina.

3213
04:05:31,305 --> 04:05:34,285
it was, um, a pv study called the impacts of solar

3214
04:05:36,725 --> 04:05:40,485
photovoltaic. I am gonna say that again 'cause I messed that up. Photovoltaic.

3215
04:05:42,545 --> 04:05:46,525
and that is what is actually in those panels, is what is being looked at.

3216
04:05:47,625 --> 04:05:51,495
the study showed that when those

3217
04:05:52,025 --> 04:05:56,005
panels were exposed to heat, the kind of heat that is a fire, like a

3218
04:05:56,125 --> 04:06:00,125
house fire heat, the actual panels contain this,

3219
04:06:00,545 --> 04:06:04,105
uh, stuff called cadmium. Y'all know what? Cadmium mm-hmm

3220
04:06:04,565 --> 04:06:08,245
. Nickel jewelry that's in that you, you with fake jewelry.

3221
04:06:08,635 --> 04:06:12,485
it's in butter than nickel. That's harmful to humans. Also. It has

3222
04:06:12,675 --> 04:06:16,035
lead, which we also know as harmful to humans. However,

3223
04:06:16,825 --> 04:06:20,515
in those panels when things happen such as high heat,

3224
04:06:21,505 --> 04:06:25,075
yes, they melt, they melt and bond

3225
04:06:25,645 --> 04:06:28,925
together. And I heard about that fire that was in chesapeake

3226
04:06:29,845 --> 04:06:33,725
actually that fire did not last three days. The fire was put out immediately.

3227
04:06:34,225 --> 04:06:38,085
it did put smoke in the air. Things happen. Don't when food

3228
04:06:38,375 --> 04:06:42,285
trees get on fire. It put smoke in the air too. Just curious. But back

3229
04:06:42,525 --> 04:06:46,525
to the cadmium and the lead, the things that

3230
04:06:46,975 --> 04:06:50,805
leach into the ground as per this study that was done. And again,

3231
04:06:51,245 --> 04:06:55,225
I restate it still, still being done. Today's day is

3232
04:06:55,505 --> 04:06:59,105
not effective to harm a human. It is not.

3233
04:07:00,105 --> 04:07:03,855
my husband rode past some property coming from a golf tournament. Thank

3234
04:07:04,305 --> 04:07:07,505
god he can still do that. And he stopped at this man's house in

3235
04:07:08,345 --> 04:07:12,345
sussex, suffolk, in suffolk, in windsor. And the,

3236
04:07:13,185 --> 04:07:17,035
the, he took a picture and I was like, oh my god. It was 20 feet

3237
04:07:17,325 --> 04:07:21,085
from the back door. And the gentleman had lived there over 10 years.

3238
04:07:21,785 --> 04:07:25,605
and he said, well, how are you doing? This is something happening to you or anything going wrong? This

3239
04:07:25,905 --> 04:07:29,345
man said no. Do you hear anything? No.

3240
04:07:30,305 --> 04:07:34,105
is it bothering you in any way? He said, the only thing is

3241
04:07:34,325 --> 04:07:38,235
that, well, I don't know. I think I can

3242
04:07:38,395 --> 04:07:42,155
get under there and plant some things. I had a picture and I wanted to show you.

3243
04:07:42,615 --> 04:07:46,535
you can even plant things under your solar panels. So

3244
04:07:47,595 --> 04:07:50,975
everyone's telling you efficacy is fine. Income

3245
04:07:51,945 --> 04:07:55,475
fine. Look out to some of these things to help support our county.

3246
04:07:56,255 --> 04:07:59,875
my kids, my family, your families. Thank you.

3247
04:08:02,045 --> 04:08:05,695
thank you, thank you daniel hudson.

3248
04:08:19,895 --> 04:08:23,475
my name is daniel hudson. 1 2 5 7 5 zeus road.

3249
04:08:25,355 --> 04:08:29,185
I do not have a working relationship with

3250
04:08:29,475 --> 04:08:31,755
any of you people. You don't know who I am,

3251
04:08:33,775 --> 04:08:37,715
but I'm a constituent. I'm a taxpayer. I am a

3252
04:08:37,995 --> 04:08:40,715
lifelong resident of this county. I come from a family

3253
04:08:42,265 --> 04:08:44,495
that, that lived here for many years instilled us.

3254
04:08:47,135 --> 04:08:50,955
so I'll start off with, I believe the

3255
04:08:51,155 --> 04:08:55,115
narrative in marketing for solar and wind in general is mostly

3256
04:08:55,485 --> 04:08:59,425
false. Um, when they, when they try to convince you that it's

3257
04:09:00,095 --> 04:09:04,095
an environmentally friendly and superior to

3258
04:09:04,325 --> 04:09:08,245
other generation methods, um, especially

3259
04:09:08,915 --> 04:09:12,825
over the long term, this

3260
04:09:13,165 --> 04:09:16,955
company has presented a an elaborate document, which, which goes over

3261
04:09:17,245 --> 04:09:20,265
and addresses many, many concerns. Um,

3262
04:09:21,435 --> 04:09:24,745
it's impressive and it's lengthy. And, um,

3263
04:09:25,645 --> 04:09:29,415
I think it was called board of supervisors report or something like that. And I'll, I'll refer

3264
04:09:29,765 --> 04:09:33,725
to that some more in my little statement. I don't

3265
04:09:33,925 --> 04:09:37,725
stand to gain financially from this project. As a few, I believe in the report

3266
04:09:38,105 --> 04:09:42,045
it was na it was called, uh, confidentially and substantially

3267
04:09:43,675 --> 04:09:47,365
what their income would be. I seek to dissuade this project

3268
04:09:48,465 --> 04:09:52,105
living here all of my life and, and being a person that enjoys

3269
04:09:52,525 --> 04:09:56,505
the outdoors and the nature whether I can be out there hunting and

3270
04:09:56,725 --> 04:10:00,365
fishing in it, which I've done little fishing this year, but I'd still like to.

3271
04:10:01,245 --> 04:10:03,605
I love to hunt and I like to look at the rural farmland.

3272
04:10:06,085 --> 04:10:09,985
you know, we used to have a lot of concern

3273
04:10:10,355 --> 04:10:13,685
about preserving the rural heritage. And, and

3274
04:10:14,595 --> 04:10:18,345
while, while solar and stuff is marketed as being environmentally friendly

3275
04:10:19,445 --> 04:10:23,425
and people talk about use of land and waste of land, land just

3276
04:10:23,705 --> 04:10:27,705
sitting there, what is wrong with the land? Growing,

3277
04:10:29,095 --> 04:10:32,465
growing plants and animals as god created?

3278
04:10:33,295 --> 04:10:37,065
what is wrong with the land being used just as land? What

3279
04:10:37,305 --> 04:10:41,085
is wrong with nature being natural? Nothing. Now

3280
04:10:42,655 --> 04:10:46,525
they made some good points about the location with proximity to

3281
04:10:46,745 --> 04:10:50,575
the, the transmission lines and transmission lines. Most people don't have

3282
04:10:51,345 --> 04:10:54,785
a good knowledge of electrical generation, distribution,

3283
04:10:55,575 --> 04:10:59,105
consumption and measurement. They don't. I do have some knowledge,

3284
04:10:59,805 --> 04:11:03,605
and I I'll speak right now that I'm speaking only on my behalf, not

3285
04:11:03,885 --> 04:11:07,665
on behalf of any industry, any employers, et cetera.

3286
04:11:09,505 --> 04:11:13,335
I do have some knowledge of that. Uh, the, the distribution lines have

3287
04:11:13,625 --> 04:11:17,345
to bring the power to us. Yes, they do. I do not believe

3288
04:11:17,665 --> 04:11:21,345
that solar is, is efficient. It's really not capable

3289
04:11:22,005 --> 04:11:25,825
to provide, because most people don't understand. A megawatt is a large unit

3290
04:11:26,085 --> 04:11:30,045
of power. And they, they gave numbers of some megawatts to

3291
04:11:30,325 --> 04:11:34,185
run industry and to run that huge distribution center. They just added

3292
04:11:34,485 --> 04:11:38,105
all those robots in. If, if the main grid goes down,

3293
04:11:38,615 --> 04:11:42,025
they're not supporting industry very long. I can tell you that right now.

3294
04:11:43,005 --> 04:11:46,985
um, their report mentions, uh, decommissioning

3295
04:11:48,245 --> 04:11:52,205
it mentions recycling, steel, aluminum, copper, those things we

3296
04:11:52,425 --> 04:11:56,425
are all very well familiar with. I didn't see any mention about how they're going

3297
04:11:56,545 --> 04:12:00,455
to deal with the fluids and other components that, you know, carcinogens,

3298
04:12:01,245 --> 04:12:05,215
as they mentioned, the, uh, cadmium lead, et cetera, that were also

3299
04:12:05,565 --> 04:12:09,245
should be familiar with, are very harmful to your body. Um,

3300
04:12:12,235 --> 04:12:15,885
when the power grid goes down, they mention the storage and distribution

3301
04:12:16,285 --> 04:12:20,245
then of electrical energy. Surely that's gonna consist of a lot of

3302
04:12:20,645 --> 04:12:24,525
capacitors and a lot of batteries where they, they mentioned briefly what

3303
04:12:24,805 --> 04:12:28,785
they're going to do. We can recycle these main metal components of

3304
04:12:29,165 --> 04:12:33,165
these panels. Whatcha going do with the batteries? Whatcha gonna do with all of the capacitors?

3305
04:12:33,585 --> 04:12:37,205
who, who's going to deal with that? Where are you going to deal with? Is it really going to escape?

3306
04:12:37,865 --> 04:12:41,725
and it doesn't mean that these companies are trying to be malicious in any

3307
04:12:41,945 --> 04:12:45,605
way, but stuff happens. Accidents do happen. They mention

3308
04:12:46,515 --> 04:12:49,925
they're gonna test groundwater, testing groundwater

3309
04:12:50,585 --> 04:12:54,565
and paying fines. Doesn't ever fix the problem. And I want

3310
04:12:54,765 --> 04:12:58,665
y'all to consider the future of this county mentioning tax

3311
04:12:58,885 --> 04:13:02,145
revenue has never impressed me because where does that tax go?

3312
04:13:03,755 --> 04:13:07,325
most of this is going to be federal and state funds. Tax revenue

3313
04:13:07,955 --> 04:13:11,905
appeals to you guys maybe, but not to the individual citizens. Not

3314
04:13:12,125 --> 04:13:15,325
to most of us. People use that as a way to appeal to you.

3315
04:13:16,545 --> 04:13:20,445
so I want y'all to think about the future. I live on the other end

3316
04:13:20,645 --> 04:13:23,845
of the county. And my main point of this, this is,

3317
04:13:24,715 --> 04:13:28,465
it's not directly against this project. It is against stopping the

3318
04:13:28,925 --> 04:13:32,165
momentum of solar in this county and in the state

3319
04:13:33,265 --> 04:13:36,615
to, to set this aside until better, more efficient generation

3320
04:13:37,595 --> 04:13:40,165
methods are created and the actual in infrastructure,

3321
04:13:41,925 --> 04:13:45,865
distribution lines, et cetera, are built up. Think about the

3322
04:13:46,085 --> 04:13:50,005
future and don't just do this as a short term project for a

3323
04:13:50,125 --> 04:13:54,055
few people to get rich. Thank you. Thank

3324
04:13:54,405 --> 04:13:56,895
you. Kevin walker.

3325
04:14:07,515 --> 04:14:11,385
good evening. Uh, kevin walker, 2 0 8 0 3, uh,

3326
04:14:11,605 --> 04:14:15,565
river road board members, uh, chair. I come to you,

3327
04:14:16,385 --> 04:14:19,505
uh, this moment as a citizen of the,

3328
04:14:21,225 --> 04:14:25,065
um, with just asking for a chance, asking for

3329
04:14:25,285 --> 04:14:28,735
a right. Um, I too, and some of the other landowners

3330
04:14:29,885 --> 04:14:33,655
I own this property, the north side of the property that actually would

3331
04:14:34,005 --> 04:14:38,005
be accessed from walker's pond. My grandmother drove bus for 40

3332
04:14:38,255 --> 04:14:42,125
years on that road, bringing a bus through there. And along

3333
04:14:42,445 --> 04:14:46,305
with other farming equipment, they used to come back there. Uh, and

3334
04:14:46,785 --> 04:14:49,805
during her tenure, she maintained that road for many years,

3335
04:14:50,985 --> 04:14:54,805
uh, providing rock, scraping it, everything. 'cause she lived back there and I still

3336
04:14:55,105 --> 04:14:58,665
own that. Her house that's back there. So it doesn't only impact,

3337
04:14:59,665 --> 04:15:03,665
you know, the surrounding landowners, it also impacts me as

3338
04:15:03,885 --> 04:15:07,725
well. But I'm willing to take that chance, right? Just, I'm asking for a chance

3339
04:15:08,105 --> 04:15:11,985
for just as a resident, as the right that I pay

3340
04:15:12,205 --> 04:15:15,835
taxes. I live in this county I lived in, uh, away

3341
04:15:16,225 --> 04:15:19,765
and I came back home and hoping that, you know, I could bring something

3342
04:15:20,435 --> 04:15:24,365
back and get involved and, uh, try to use that land because I

3343
04:15:24,505 --> 04:15:28,405
am too landlocked. I can't do any, I tried to build home. I can't

3344
04:15:28,605 --> 04:15:32,585
do it, you know, um, I've been approached about selling it, but

3345
04:15:32,845 --> 04:15:36,725
I pro I guarantee you if I sold it, you know, it, it may

3346
04:15:36,925 --> 04:15:40,925
become a subdivision. I don't know. Right? But I know that area is growing.

3347
04:15:41,985 --> 04:15:45,915
uh, walmart been around there for a while. Uh, ty's

3348
04:15:46,365 --> 04:15:50,265
been there forever. Uh, the quarry, um, just that area is

3349
04:15:50,485 --> 04:15:54,445
still growing and I know at some point, right, I'm for the

3350
04:15:54,605 --> 04:15:58,585
solar panels, right? At some point, whether this project goes or

3351
04:15:58,805 --> 04:16:02,555
something else, it's going to be something and people will always have some

3352
04:16:02,845 --> 04:16:06,725
type of, you know, I'm not for this. I don't like, you know, but just

3353
04:16:06,965 --> 04:16:10,405
asking for a chance as a resident and a citizen

3354
04:16:11,425 --> 04:16:15,105
of this property that I own, because I still too will have to access

3355
04:16:15,525 --> 04:16:19,255
that road to go to my property. My property is actually the first house

3356
04:16:19,625 --> 04:16:23,605
you get to on the left before you get to the next residence. So I

3357
04:16:23,725 --> 04:16:27,285
still have to take that chance and risk to access that

3358
04:16:27,845 --> 04:16:31,515
property. Right? Um, so, um, like I said, once again, I just believe

3359
04:16:32,005 --> 04:16:35,845
and ask for a chance, uh, that, um, decisions

3360
04:16:36,205 --> 04:16:40,005
will be made respectfully. And, um, that's all I have to say. Thank you.

3361
04:16:40,295 --> 04:16:41,725
thank you. Alright. Thank you

3362
04:16:45,865 --> 04:16:48,435
mr. Chairman. I have no one else signed up. Okay.

3363
04:16:49,985 --> 04:16:53,885
um, at this point I'll close the public hearing

3364
04:16:54,475 --> 04:16:57,765
part and I'd ask the, uh, applicant if they would like to come back.

3365
04:17:04,495 --> 04:17:08,485
thank you, mr. Chairman. And I appreciate everyone who came to speak here, uh, tonight

3366
04:17:09,065 --> 04:17:13,065
and taking the time. I, I'd make a few points. Um, one is,

3367
04:17:14,045 --> 04:17:18,005
I, I heard especially the first couple of speakers talking about how they wanted to preserve

3368
04:17:18,145 --> 04:17:22,125
the land farmland. Uh, and if this were in the middle of the county

3369
04:17:22,375 --> 04:17:25,445
where it was designated for agricultural and farmland,

3370
04:17:26,525 --> 04:17:30,445
I mean that, that could really resonate. But that's not what the county's vision for this

3371
04:17:30,885 --> 04:17:34,725
property is. If you heard from mr. Bassett, this is designed,

3372
04:17:35,145 --> 04:17:38,725
uh, to either be industrial or faster growing. I mean, the county

3373
04:17:39,225 --> 04:17:43,165
has designated that proper planning is in certain areas you wanna

3374
04:17:43,325 --> 04:17:46,685
see development occur and certain areas you don't. This is one of the areas

3375
04:17:47,555 --> 04:17:51,285
that you don't expect it and you don't want it to remain agricultural.

3376
04:17:52,785 --> 04:17:56,625
and so eventually it may take a long time, but eventually, uh,

3377
04:17:56,845 --> 04:18:00,725
this property needs to be and should be developed, and the comp plan recognizes it.

3378
04:18:01,185 --> 04:18:05,045
and that means it's not gonna be farmland and most of it isn't already.

3379
04:18:06,025 --> 04:18:10,005
uh, and ironically, what we're doing is this, this

3380
04:18:10,245 --> 04:18:14,145
is a placeholder for a period of time. It's not forever. Uh, but

3381
04:18:14,375 --> 04:18:18,345
we're guaranteeing during that period of time that the neighbors and, and,

3382
04:18:18,665 --> 04:18:22,605
and, and, um, uh, the, the, the residents actually

3383
04:18:22,685 --> 04:18:26,385
aren't adjacent neighbors. They're multiple parcels away. Uh,

3384
04:18:27,065 --> 04:18:30,805
but they wouldn't have the 75 foot buffer where you wouldn't see what

3385
04:18:31,105 --> 04:18:34,995
was there. Um, so we're actually, this is, this

3386
04:18:35,285 --> 04:18:39,205
is a project as I went through that will bring, which should bring millions of dollars

3387
04:18:39,685 --> 04:18:43,605
ultimately to the county while still bringing local power. And it will

3388
04:18:43,925 --> 04:18:47,925
be much less intrusive than what the current comp plan calls for the

3389
04:18:48,285 --> 04:18:51,595
property. Um, in terms of, uh, reliability,

3390
04:18:52,485 --> 04:18:56,385
I mean, we will simply say the studies indicate that one, the technology is, is,

3391
04:18:56,605 --> 04:19:00,205
is accelerating so well that, that, uh, solar is very reliable.

3392
04:19:00,905 --> 04:19:04,865
uh, is it gonna have, we're not doing battery storage, we're some, but, uh,

3393
04:19:05,225 --> 04:19:08,835
for significant periods of time, it is gonna be putting on the local grid,

3394
04:19:09,345 --> 04:19:13,205
the local distribution, 20 megawatts of power, which is

3395
04:19:13,485 --> 04:19:17,385
a lot of power. Uh, it could power several thousand homes. And

3396
04:19:17,605 --> 04:19:21,365
to let you know, dominions determine that it's relied. They're in the business

3397
04:19:21,665 --> 04:19:25,525
of reliability. And looking at this project, dominion

3398
04:19:26,545 --> 04:19:30,465
has, has come to an agreement. They've identified that there's a need in

3399
04:19:30,685 --> 04:19:34,365
this area and ha have, have come to an agreement,

3400
04:19:35,225 --> 04:19:39,025
uh, with, uh, with, uh, greenville for

3401
04:19:39,245 --> 04:19:43,205
this property. So this is not a, we are not coming before you on a

3402
04:19:43,325 --> 04:19:47,045
speculative venture. Um, what we're saying is there's a crying

3403
04:19:47,515 --> 04:19:51,485
need, and people have talked about, there may be other ways down the road, we can come up

3404
04:19:51,645 --> 04:19:55,635
with power. Those are decades away. Our crisis is looming. This

3405
04:19:55,925 --> 04:19:59,785
project can be up in 20 and giving power to

3406
04:20:00,005 --> 04:20:03,685
this community in 2026. That's how far along

3407
04:20:04,345 --> 04:20:08,345
we are, and that's when it's gonna be needed. And dominion has

3408
04:20:08,565 --> 04:20:12,185
indicated that this is gonna be a very reliable source. Um,

3409
04:20:13,685 --> 04:20:17,465
I would note, um, in terms of the environment, we

3410
04:20:17,715 --> 04:20:21,605
submitted, uh, extensive studies and we had a previous

3411
04:20:21,805 --> 04:20:25,765
speaker, uh, who did a risk assessment. But, but she's right. I mean,

3412
04:20:25,885 --> 04:20:29,785
the studies indicate that this is very safe. Um, and that, and,

3413
04:20:30,005 --> 04:20:33,665
and especially compared to many other industries, it's very stable. Um,

3414
04:20:34,545 --> 04:20:38,445
and if you look at any business, I mean, or any houses, I mean,

3415
04:20:39,395 --> 04:20:43,235
this has electronics. So many other places and businesses have

3416
04:20:43,595 --> 04:20:47,485
electronics. I did hear about cadmium and the melting, and she's right,

3417
04:20:47,945 --> 04:20:51,915
it melts to, so it's very insular. But most of them have gotten away

3418
04:20:52,205 --> 04:20:55,755
from cadmium on the panels. But the ones they do, it's not actually cadmium,

3419
04:20:56,675 --> 04:21:00,245
it's cadmium telluride, uh, which is, if the example

3420
04:21:00,765 --> 04:21:04,445
I give is hydrogen can be volatile, oxygen can be

3421
04:21:04,805 --> 04:21:08,445
volatile. You do two, two molecules of hydrogen and oxygen, you get water.

3422
04:21:09,265 --> 04:21:13,225
um, I mean this is, so, this is not just cadmium, uh, but the, the

3423
04:21:13,445 --> 04:21:17,085
principles the same. All the studies are indicating it is not an environmental hazard.

3424
04:21:18,295 --> 04:21:22,125
fires, I don't know the details, but are very, very rare. I mean, there are a lot of fires

3425
04:21:22,445 --> 04:21:26,405
around, uh, that would be, uh, not related to solar, but it has

3426
04:21:26,685 --> 04:21:30,545
a, a demonstrated record of being a very safe, uh,

3427
04:21:30,765 --> 04:21:34,645
process. And this, and if you look at our conditions, 1d eq

3428
04:21:34,945 --> 04:21:38,645
has passed extensive regulations. This isn't new to deq

3429
04:21:39,005 --> 04:21:42,765
in the state in terms of solar. Uh, the regulations that have been passed

3430
04:21:43,105 --> 04:21:46,495
and upgraded are very extensive. Our conditions show that we're gonna fully

3431
04:21:48,065 --> 04:21:51,205
comply. We need a what's known as permit by rule.

3432
04:21:52,265 --> 04:21:55,565
and, uh, and we'll comply with all ens

3433
04:21:56,405 --> 04:22:00,195
requirements in the conditions. It'll be, I think, reviewed once

3434
04:22:00,485 --> 04:22:03,745
every year or two years to make sure we're in full compliance. Um,

3435
04:22:05,085 --> 04:22:08,865
I would also, um, uh, indicate that, um,

3436
04:22:10,985 --> 04:22:14,925
uh, that in terms of the precedent, this isn't,

3437
04:22:15,245 --> 04:22:19,005
like I'm saying the general farm area. Uh, this isn't the area

3438
04:22:19,255 --> 04:22:22,925
where it should be. Uh, but I also think this is a,

3439
04:22:23,475 --> 04:22:27,235
this is a, a distinction if you wanna make it as this

3440
04:22:27,535 --> 04:22:31,465
isn't going to the general transmission. Your, your precedent right now is

3441
04:22:31,685 --> 04:22:35,605
very limited, is we are gonna consider smaller projects. This is a smaller project

3442
04:22:36,595 --> 04:22:40,295
that our distributive in nature where the power stays

3443
04:22:40,855 --> 04:22:44,665
local. I mean, I get the understanding that why do we wanna put

3444
04:22:44,895 --> 04:22:48,725
power on the grid to serve northern virginia? That's not what this project

3445
04:22:49,065 --> 04:22:52,085
is. Uh, I will say, I'm, I have a lot of experience

3446
04:22:53,145 --> 04:22:57,145
not only in land use, but in the energy sector in

3447
04:22:57,365 --> 04:23:01,235
particular, I'm working on a, a small modular reactor

3448
04:23:01,725 --> 04:23:05,425
project. Uh, I work on various different projects. And, uh,

3449
04:23:06,025 --> 04:23:09,885
in that, and my personally, I'm, I'm fully in favor of the peaker plant.

3450
04:23:10,205 --> 04:23:14,125
chesterfield, I'm, I'm familiar with that. Uh, the challenge is anything

3451
04:23:14,245 --> 04:23:18,045
that you're doing for any business or industry, you're gonna get some folks that are gonna come out.

3452
04:23:18,585 --> 04:23:22,185
we just ask you to look at the facts. But my, my firm belief is you're

3453
04:23:22,605 --> 04:23:26,205
gonna need all hands on deck. It's, there is not a magic bullet out there

3454
04:23:26,675 --> 04:23:30,625
that is going to fix everything. Uh, you're gonna need all of this, and

3455
04:23:30,855 --> 04:23:34,605
particular these distributive processes because we are facing,

3456
04:23:35,425 --> 04:23:39,165
uh, the challenge, um, as I've said, being distributed in nature.

3457
04:23:39,985 --> 04:23:43,665
um, the, um, um, it

3458
04:23:44,035 --> 04:23:47,925
it's serving the community. It will help prevent brownouts. I'm not gonna say it's gonna prevent

3459
04:23:48,245 --> 04:23:51,885
everything. Uh, I have mr. Watlington here, if you want to ask specific

3460
04:23:52,325 --> 04:23:56,325
questions about how it reduces brownouts and shortages

3461
04:23:56,645 --> 04:24:00,315
and how it, it, it prevents fluctuations and local outages.

3462
04:24:01,185 --> 04:24:04,765
uh, and he'll be glad to go into those details. But from a common sense standpoint,

3463
04:24:05,735 --> 04:24:09,485
we're tying into the local power. It's not going out of

3464
04:24:09,745 --> 04:24:13,605
the community. Um, uh, but he'll be glad to, uh, answer that.

3465
04:24:14,185 --> 04:24:18,125
uh, and I do want to thank, um, the heartfelt

3466
04:24:18,745 --> 04:24:22,705
of the fable. I mean, I've heard it before, uh,

3467
04:24:23,065 --> 04:24:26,805
and I I get it. But that's true with anything that we do in life.

3468
04:24:27,185 --> 04:24:30,965
you, you're here to balance risk. And I, you know, I might be able to come up with

3469
04:24:31,365 --> 04:24:35,085
a example of the lights went out, some bad stuff

3470
04:24:35,525 --> 04:24:39,125
happened. Uh, and what you've gotta do is look at all of it. Are we affecting

3471
04:24:39,805 --> 04:24:43,295
our neighbors? Have we done everything that we reasonably could

3472
04:24:44,145 --> 04:24:48,065
to insulate them and minimize it? Is it economically beneficial to

3473
04:24:48,285 --> 04:24:52,285
the county? Is it providing a necessary resource? I sent

3474
04:24:52,565 --> 04:24:56,525
you the, the, the email from, from vulcan. I mean, they, they're a large company.

3475
04:24:56,875 --> 04:25:00,685
they understand what's coming. There's a reason why they said, please pass this

3476
04:25:00,925 --> 04:25:04,545
on to the board. Um, and, uh, so we, uh, urge you,

3477
04:25:05,705 --> 04:25:09,645
um, to, um, approve this case. I mean, there's no evidence that we heat

3478
04:25:09,845 --> 04:25:13,615
up anything. I mean, this is, uh, I thought it was very telling, uh, about

3479
04:25:13,965 --> 04:25:17,825
the person who had it 20 feet off, um, and

3480
04:25:18,145 --> 04:25:22,085
didn't notice anything. It's not gonna make a lot of noise. Uh, you're not gonna hear

3481
04:25:22,285 --> 04:25:26,245
it. Um, and, uh, we can make this site unlike a lot of 'em,

3482
04:25:26,385 --> 04:25:30,105
we can make it so you're not gonna see it. Uh, and so we

3483
04:25:30,425 --> 04:25:34,125
ask, uh, that you give us an opportunity to serve the community. We're gonna bring millions

3484
04:25:34,685 --> 04:25:38,625
of dollars to the locality without any really burden on, on,

3485
04:25:39,065 --> 04:25:42,965
on the cost to the county. And I think you've heard passionately from the landowners,

3486
04:25:43,945 --> 04:25:47,805
uh, I think there are things on, on property rights. Uh, and I think

3487
04:25:47,965 --> 04:25:51,825
they, uh, have a very good point of let us have reasonable use of

3488
04:25:52,045 --> 04:25:55,685
the land as long as we're not materially impacting our neighbors.

3489
04:25:56,665 --> 04:26:00,515
uh, I think that's a pretty good principle. Um, so I would be, uh, glad

3490
04:26:00,865 --> 04:26:04,695
to, uh, uh, answer any questions at this point. Solar

3491
04:26:05,525 --> 04:26:08,305
compared to a lot of other uses is very cost effective. Um,

3492
04:26:09,705 --> 04:26:13,525
and so, um, I'll be glad to answer any questions. Mr. Watlington is

3493
04:26:13,725 --> 04:26:17,565
here and other representatives adeem, uh, about specific

3494
04:26:18,165 --> 04:26:21,885
benefits to this project. Uh, but, uh, I really appreciate

3495
04:26:22,405 --> 04:26:26,385
your time and, and your careful attention. I will notice that you

3496
04:26:26,605 --> 04:26:30,115
all may have been in with larger cases where lots of people come

3497
04:26:31,105 --> 04:26:35,075
to speak, uh, around, because it's a different, when you're 200 megawatts

3498
04:26:35,685 --> 04:26:39,285
and you're that big and you're an area of the county that has a different impact.

3499
04:26:40,165 --> 04:26:44,045
I think people recognize that this is a different animal altogether. And that's

3500
04:26:44,285 --> 04:26:48,125
why I think you're not seeing it, uh, uh, a lot of people coming out against.

3501
04:26:48,555 --> 04:26:52,325
it's, it's common sense. It makes sense. And we really appreciate your

3502
04:26:53,045 --> 04:26:57,005
consideration. A lot of time and effort been put into this. We've tried to work

3503
04:26:57,235 --> 04:27:01,225
very closely with the county and we appreciate their help. Uh, and, and,

3504
04:27:01,505 --> 04:27:05,045
and I appreciate the time the board members, uh, have given this project.

3505
04:27:05,585 --> 04:27:09,525
um, so with that, I will end and be glad to answer any questions you may have.

3506
04:27:10,195 --> 04:27:14,045
okay. And before we do that, um, we've been sitting

3507
04:27:14,245 --> 04:27:18,125
here a long time. Um, I'd like to take a five minute recess and then we'll

3508
04:27:18,405 --> 04:27:22,355
come back and answer questions. So we're gonna do that real

3509
04:27:22,645 --> 04:27:26,145
quick. Like, um, before we get, before I go, um,

3510
04:27:26,685 --> 04:27:30,005
I would like to thank everyone that spoke tonight for the politeness

3511
04:27:30,825 --> 04:27:34,545
and the courtesy that they've shown here tonight. And, um,

3512
04:27:35,265 --> 04:27:39,225
it didn't go unnoticed. A lot of different opinions in the room tonight on

3513
04:27:39,445 --> 04:27:43,365
this case, and everybody was just as polite and courteous as they

3514
04:27:43,645 --> 04:27:47,585
could be. So I appreciate that. Um, and we'll be back in, in

3515
04:27:47,805 --> 04:27:51,445
five minutes. Thank you. Go do it.

3516
04:27:51,835 --> 04:27:55,725
just say, mr all, we're gonna go ahead and, and get back

3517
04:27:56,125 --> 04:28:00,085
started. Um, order, order, order. Hit it again. Would the,

3518
04:28:00,305 --> 04:28:04,025
um, excuse me, would the applicant, um, are,

3519
04:28:04,485 --> 04:28:07,245
I guess, are there any questions of board members of the applicant?

3520
04:28:10,985 --> 04:28:14,785
yes. Okay. Would the applicant like to come back? Uh,

3521
04:28:16,135 --> 04:28:20,085
sorry for our strain, uh, interruption, but it

3522
04:28:20,285 --> 04:28:23,725
was much needed. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. I was appreciative.

3523
04:28:25,915 --> 04:28:29,655
alright, some questions. Um, we've

3524
04:28:30,005 --> 04:28:33,835
talked a lot tonight about back filling into

3525
04:28:34,125 --> 04:28:37,565
the, the grid in denwitty county. Yes, sir. So I would like our specialist

3526
04:28:38,825 --> 04:28:42,705
to tell me and the public when the lights go out,

3527
04:28:43,995 --> 04:28:47,835
what happens to the power and how does it come into the denwitty county grid?

3528
04:28:48,875 --> 04:28:52,425
yeah, walk us through it. I'll let, I'll let him do mr. Wittington. Yep.

3529
04:28:59,495 --> 04:29:03,415
hello. Thank you. Um, thank you chairman and commissioners. And my name's neil watlington.

3530
04:29:04,745 --> 04:29:08,605
I'm the chief development officer for actualized solar. Um, I've been in

3531
04:29:08,805 --> 04:29:12,685
the industry about 30 years, uh, developing power plants,

3532
04:29:13,915 --> 04:29:17,585
coal, gas, hydro, um,

3533
04:29:18,295 --> 04:29:21,725
solar energy storage. I haven't done nuclear,

3534
04:29:22,585 --> 04:29:25,375
but I've been inside of a nuclear facility and geothermal.

3535
04:29:26,665 --> 04:29:26,665
um,

3536
04:29:30,865 --> 04:29:34,525
so the question is, what happens when the lights go out? And, and so the really,

3537
04:29:34,885 --> 04:29:38,725
the question is why do the lights go out? Um, and so, you know, the grid is complex.

3538
04:29:39,665 --> 04:29:43,585
um, dominion energy, and I'm not, I'm not an engineer, I'm a developer. So

3539
04:29:44,045 --> 04:29:48,005
I, I'll I'll caveat it with that, uh, with

3540
04:29:48,245 --> 04:29:51,945
the experience. Um, and, and then we belong

3541
04:29:52,425 --> 04:29:55,885
to pjm, which is the, you know, the regional transmission,

3542
04:29:57,265 --> 04:30:01,045
um, organization that manages, and so it's, it's

3543
04:30:01,325 --> 04:30:05,245
about supply and demand of electricity, right? And so they're continuously

3544
04:30:05,845 --> 04:30:09,685
trying to balance, uh, the supply and, and the demand of electricity.

3545
04:30:10,795 --> 04:30:14,265
because the grid was developed, it's pretty much developed how

3546
04:30:15,065 --> 04:30:18,965
thomas edison was developing it way back when, you know, centralized,

3547
04:30:20,105 --> 04:30:24,035
um, generators, long lines, transmission lines, dropping down

3548
04:30:24,345 --> 04:30:28,265
to distribution lines, um, and, and getting to, to, to, to

3549
04:30:28,485 --> 04:30:31,345
the different uses what they call the load. Um,

3550
04:30:33,635 --> 04:30:37,625
when there is more demand in, in certain places, the

3551
04:30:38,125 --> 04:30:42,075
electricity gets redirected, uh, to, to those areas. With

3552
04:30:42,365 --> 04:30:46,285
the advent of, you know, technology just kind of catching up,

3553
04:30:46,945 --> 04:30:50,725
um, in, in the industry, the, the possibility of distributed

3554
04:30:51,695 --> 04:30:54,925
power, right? Um, starts becoming

3555
04:30:56,115 --> 04:31:00,085
more of a reality. Now we can think of distributed power as kind of the

3556
04:31:00,245 --> 04:31:03,985
residential type, you know, solar, rooftops, et cetera. Um,

3557
04:31:04,625 --> 04:31:08,565
but at a certain point, you know, at a larger scale it can happen,

3558
04:31:09,025 --> 04:31:12,825
but it's not a super large scale either. It, it can start filling in

3559
04:31:13,045 --> 04:31:16,945
the gaps, um, in, in the distribution lines, uh,

3560
04:31:17,165 --> 04:31:21,005
kind of at the size that this project is at. And so

3561
04:31:21,275 --> 04:31:25,015
what happens is, as long as there is light, there

3562
04:31:25,365 --> 04:31:29,365
will be some generation, if there is some generation of electricity going to

3563
04:31:29,565 --> 04:31:33,365
that distribution line, there is less electricity that

3564
04:31:33,605 --> 04:31:37,545
needs to be imported, um, in, in, into the area. Um,

3565
04:31:38,225 --> 04:31:42,085
and, and that's basically what it is. I mean, you know, it, it, it's a, it's a little bit

3566
04:31:42,245 --> 04:31:46,125
more support, it's a little bit more resilience. It, it's not a panacea, it doesn't solve

3567
04:31:46,685 --> 04:31:50,485
anything. But in that distribution line, I'm pretty sure

3568
04:31:51,275 --> 04:31:55,145
that it's highly improbable that you're gonna be able to, to

3569
04:31:55,635 --> 04:31:59,565
install and develop a coal fired facility, a very, you know, a,

3570
04:31:59,845 --> 04:32:03,685
a combined cycle gas facility or a nuclear facility or

3571
04:32:03,965 --> 04:32:07,675
anything like that. Um, it's gonna be more, most likely that

3572
04:32:08,225 --> 04:32:11,195
at that level of distribution, kind of that local area,

3573
04:32:12,265 --> 04:32:15,575
um, you could do many small, smaller oil fired

3574
04:32:16,795 --> 04:32:20,585
engines, um, that have, you know, their, their own set of, of, of,

3575
04:32:20,865 --> 04:32:24,845
of, of issues that come with them. Or, or gas, if you had gas and you're gonna be using other issues

3576
04:32:25,865 --> 04:32:29,025
or, you know, you could do solar, um, and,

3577
04:32:30,105 --> 04:32:33,285
and have, you know, a less impactful, but potentially more resilient,

3578
04:32:34,265 --> 04:32:38,245
um, grid locally because of it. And, and that's, that's kind of the,

3579
04:32:38,465 --> 04:32:42,265
the, the little bit of a long answer, um, to the question. But the, the

3580
04:32:42,885 --> 04:32:46,525
electrons will flow to the path of lease resistance.

3581
04:32:47,145 --> 04:32:50,405
so if you have local, uh, generation,

3582
04:32:52,265 --> 04:32:55,795
it will go to the local load and the inverters.

3583
04:32:56,405 --> 04:33:00,305
and these, these facilities are relatively simple. You know, it's the solar panels

3584
04:33:01,355 --> 04:33:05,085
with inverters. The inverters are new technology in a way, right? It didn't

3585
04:33:05,365 --> 04:33:09,285
exist when they were using the big, you know, turbines and all that. And these

3586
04:33:09,405 --> 04:33:12,735
inverters, you know, they're, they're, they're digital. They respond at that speed,

3587
04:33:13,505 --> 04:33:17,295
and so they help stabilize the grid. They can react

3588
04:33:18,435 --> 04:33:21,735
with the grid much better than a large power plant would.

3589
04:33:22,665 --> 04:33:26,145
um, and so that also helps in increasing the,

3590
04:33:27,705 --> 04:33:31,505
you know, the reliance, uh, or the reliability of, of, of

3591
04:33:31,725 --> 04:33:35,685
that, of that line. Yeah. I guess what

3592
04:33:35,885 --> 04:33:39,825
I was looking at is trying to determine when that power comes off

3593
04:33:40,045 --> 04:33:43,905
those 17 acres and goes to a distribution, how is, how

3594
04:33:44,125 --> 04:33:48,085
do we maintain that power? Inwood county? Yeah, so, so

3595
04:33:48,285 --> 04:33:52,015
from the residents? Yeah. Yeah. So, so all the businesses that are around, yeah. So we'll

3596
04:33:52,645 --> 04:33:56,465
have, right, it'll only happen during the day, you know, again, uh, it

3597
04:33:56,685 --> 04:34:00,405
won't operate at night. Um, but as long as there's sunlight, there will be some generation

3598
04:34:01,025 --> 04:34:03,845
and that generation will produce electrons and feed them

3599
04:34:05,195 --> 04:34:09,125
into, into that line. That distribution line that right

3600
04:34:09,425 --> 04:34:13,405
now is only getting its electricity from outside. Mm-hmm . It's

3601
04:34:13,645 --> 04:34:17,585
only getting its electricity from transmission lines that drop it into a substation and

3602
04:34:17,805 --> 04:34:21,645
then gets consumed by the local load. So in, in, in a sense,

3603
04:34:21,855 --> 04:34:24,955
we're just push pushing electrons back,

3604
04:34:26,945 --> 04:34:30,885
and so they're getting used locally as opposed to getting imported

3605
04:34:32,085 --> 04:34:35,515
externally. Gotcha. Okay. Okay.

3606
04:34:37,265 --> 04:34:41,195
any other questions, comments? No, I was just gonna kind,

3607
04:34:41,485 --> 04:34:43,945
make comment, um, for dr. Moore about, um,

3608
04:34:45,965 --> 04:34:49,965
I think a lot of people just wonder how they're going

3609
04:34:50,165 --> 04:34:53,765
to keep power. And I know, I know, as you said,

3610
04:34:54,195 --> 04:34:57,955
when the sun goes down, um, they,

3611
04:34:58,275 --> 04:35:02,045
they're still gonna be able to have some power going on during

3612
04:35:02,405 --> 04:35:06,005
that time. Um, and I think that's what's kind of new about it. People

3613
04:35:06,525 --> 04:35:10,385
look at that and, um, with the sun, you know, if

3614
04:35:10,635 --> 04:35:13,825
it's, if we have some overcast days, um,

3615
04:35:14,825 --> 04:35:17,535
are they able, are they gonna be able to have power

3616
04:35:18,945 --> 04:35:21,965
or is it's just like a hit and miss type thing? I'm just,

3617
04:35:22,985 --> 04:35:26,925
um, kind of concerned about that. Yeah. So I mean, as, as long as,

3618
04:35:27,545 --> 04:35:31,545
as long as there's sunlight, there will be power, it just may not be the

3619
04:35:31,765 --> 04:35:35,605
full capacity of power. So if it's an overcast day, if it was 20

3620
04:35:35,875 --> 04:35:39,685
megawatts, it won't produce 20 megawatts. It'll produce a lesser amount, but there,

3621
04:35:39,905 --> 04:35:43,805
but every amount that it produces will be electrons that

3622
04:35:44,115 --> 04:35:47,645
flow locally, um, into the grid. And as long as there's sunlight,

3623
04:35:48,905 --> 04:35:52,565
you know, there will be some electrons that are generated. I, I'll note

3624
04:35:53,435 --> 04:35:56,505
that, and I think, uh, you know, will mention this, um,

3625
04:35:57,675 --> 04:36:01,645
just right now, but I, I'll just reiterate it, that this project

3626
04:36:01,985 --> 04:36:05,305
was selected as part a request for proposal from dominion energy,

3627
04:36:06,175 --> 04:36:09,805
right? So it's, it's part of their plan. Um, and in a way,

3628
04:36:11,685 --> 04:36:15,645
dominion as well as other utilities in the united states are adopting kind of an all of the

3629
04:36:15,815 --> 04:36:19,785
above energy strategy. Um, and, and

3630
04:36:20,005 --> 04:36:23,845
as I think of the previous presentation regarding filling the gaps of

3631
04:36:24,045 --> 04:36:27,765
the cell phone areas, it, that's kind of what they're doing. They're

3632
04:36:28,085 --> 04:36:31,605
filling in gaps with distributed, um, projects,

3633
04:36:32,785 --> 04:36:36,685
um, as well as the other projects that they're doing, um, with, you know,

3634
04:36:36,995 --> 04:36:40,205
with other technologies. And, and this is just one of these opportunities

3635
04:36:41,575 --> 04:36:44,835
where, because of the location, because of the, of the type of line,

3636
04:36:45,865 --> 04:36:49,605
um, that we're feeding into, that it gets to fill that gap there.

3637
04:36:49,945 --> 04:36:53,665
and probably no other technology, um, is

3638
04:36:53,965 --> 04:36:57,905
bound to be able to do that there. You wanted to add something? Uh, yes. I, I, I think just to,

3639
04:36:58,905 --> 04:37:02,215
uh, yes, I'm, I'm, uh, va . I'm the ceo of actualized solar.

3640
04:37:03,035 --> 04:37:06,805
I've done over 20,000 megawatts. That's an equivalent of over a

3641
04:37:07,085 --> 04:37:10,725
thousand projects of this size. Uh, distributed energy projects

3642
04:37:11,205 --> 04:37:14,805
are only possible up to the size of 24 megawatts, and we 20

3643
04:37:15,585 --> 04:37:19,325
to be supported of the distribution level. So kind of from the high level educational

3644
04:37:19,965 --> 04:37:23,845
perspective, it's pretty simple how our electric sector works. We've got generation fleet,

3645
04:37:24,235 --> 04:37:28,205
just like uber has cars, we've got transmission lines, which, which

3646
04:37:29,125 --> 04:37:32,645
electrons travel over long distances of lines. We're talking about hundreds of miles.

3647
04:37:33,385 --> 04:37:37,325
and then we got distribution, it connects to the substation, and then the, it branches

3648
04:37:37,485 --> 04:37:40,745
off to power your house, your house, your business. So, uh,

3649
04:37:42,155 --> 04:37:45,915
what solar does is, well, number one, dominion understands

3650
04:37:47,025 --> 04:37:50,585
the load profile of this county, not as they do.

3651
04:37:51,145 --> 04:37:55,085
and they know. So because you've been a customer for a long time and they've

3652
04:37:55,365 --> 04:37:59,205
got millions of customers like you, they, they've, they have

3653
04:37:59,405 --> 04:38:02,345
a state mandate to support you.

3654
04:38:03,825 --> 04:38:07,795
so they've award us a long term power purchase agreement because they

3655
04:38:08,145 --> 04:38:12,085
see, they see you as a need, and they think solar

3656
04:38:12,455 --> 04:38:16,305
would be beneficial if they didn't think we

3657
04:38:16,525 --> 04:38:20,345
would be beneficial. They would never, ever award us

3658
04:38:20,585 --> 04:38:24,525
the power purchase agreement. So, um, I

3659
04:38:24,645 --> 04:38:28,425
think with that, uh, the question was, well, uh, so

3660
04:38:29,355 --> 04:38:32,985
what I don't want the board to confuse is when there is no

3661
04:38:35,185 --> 04:38:38,895
sun ie there are clouds that there'll be no power

3662
04:38:39,625 --> 04:38:43,285
in the county. No, there will be power in the cabin

3663
04:38:43,835 --> 04:38:47,565
because there are many generation facilities that's still gonna transport things

3664
04:38:47,865 --> 04:38:51,765
to the substation, and it will branch off via distribution

3665
04:38:52,045 --> 04:38:55,565
lines. What solar facility will do at our local level,

3666
04:38:56,175 --> 04:38:59,305
it'll displace every single electron that it can,

3667
04:39:00,675 --> 04:39:04,125
when it can generate it. So that's why companies like winnie,

3668
04:39:04,705 --> 04:39:08,405
vulcan, tyndall, walmart, they've all recognized this

3669
04:39:08,725 --> 04:39:12,525
a long time ago. It's part of their policies. It's, it's, that's what they do.

3670
04:39:13,225 --> 04:39:17,085
why? Because they know. But most importantly, what's really

3671
04:39:17,245 --> 04:39:20,965
important is, is not what I say, but what dominion wants to do.

3672
04:39:21,715 --> 04:39:25,685
it's not our decision to, to have this kind of plant. It is our decision as

3673
04:39:25,885 --> 04:39:29,005
a developer, because we've located it, because we know there is a need here.

3674
04:39:29,945 --> 04:39:33,695
why you got a walmart distribution center? Uh, about

3675
04:39:34,045 --> 04:39:37,845
a hundred acres. They've got a load of about two megawatts. They've got tyle corporation,

3676
04:39:38,325 --> 04:39:42,225
another two megawatts, vulcan, I don't know exactly, maybe one, maybe two.

3677
04:39:42,825 --> 04:39:45,565
but, but one third, our project can, can support that operations.

3678
04:39:47,165 --> 04:39:50,925
tyle has, I think, quote, yeah, I think it's seven shifts a day,

3679
04:39:52,055 --> 04:39:55,965
throughout the 24 hour, uh, uh, period. Imagine what

3680
04:39:56,285 --> 04:40:00,055
a disaster it is when any particular business like this, who loses

3681
04:40:00,505 --> 04:40:04,365
its power, everything stops there. No lights, there's

3682
04:40:04,725 --> 04:40:08,525
nothing. So I think during the day between probably eight

3683
04:40:08,765 --> 04:40:12,625
30 to six 30, we're gonna be producing power. And

3684
04:40:12,845 --> 04:40:16,745
that's, that's, that's, uh, that's something that solar does. Solar is,

3685
04:40:16,985 --> 04:40:20,925
is a proven technology. It's been in existence since 1970. For those who don't understand

3686
04:40:21,205 --> 04:40:25,045
this, bp has started the technology. So I think most people don't

3687
04:40:25,485 --> 04:40:29,345
even know. So, uh, so much research has been done, uh, by ma

3688
04:40:29,585 --> 04:40:33,165
by ma many universities. So many people come and they say, we believe this, and this,

3689
04:40:33,685 --> 04:40:37,685
I don't believe anything. It's it, it's proven. Uh, I'm in the

3690
04:40:37,725 --> 04:40:41,405
infrastructure sector. It is a serious sector. It means you guys,

3691
04:40:42,265 --> 04:40:46,145
if you need power, and when I say I'm gonna deliver it, I must deliver it.

3692
04:40:46,625 --> 04:40:50,385
if I don't, I will be penalized severely. So

3693
04:40:50,685 --> 04:40:54,215
I think, I think that's the message. It's, it's no joke when you guys lose power.

3694
04:40:54,835 --> 04:40:58,825
like even, even at the, at, at, at, at our personal level, me, you, dr. Moore,

3695
04:40:59,825 --> 04:41:03,405
all of you, uh, what happens? No air conditioning.

3696
04:41:04,025 --> 04:41:07,865
if you have an electric stove, it doesn't work. If you got a tv, you can't watch it. If

3697
04:41:08,085 --> 04:41:11,635
you want a beer, well drink a warm on. So, because your,

3698
04:41:12,235 --> 04:41:15,985
your freezer is gonna unfreeze. So, uh, I mean, things like this, you,

3699
04:41:16,505 --> 04:41:20,475
you can't charge a phone. So I, I, I, I think when, when

3700
04:41:20,805 --> 04:41:24,765
I think about, about my, uh, I'm humbled to be, to be in this

3701
04:41:25,165 --> 04:41:29,115
industry, it's so complex. It's so complex. Like

3702
04:41:29,405 --> 04:41:33,005
dr. Moore is, is an eye doctor. I would never, ever even attempt to advise

3703
04:41:33,635 --> 04:41:36,805
what he should or should not do with his patient, because he knows best

3704
04:41:39,175 --> 04:41:42,565
casey dooley to tell, to tell him that he shouldn't carry whatever glock

3705
04:41:43,205 --> 04:41:47,085
17 or black 19. That would be a pretty, pretty interesting proposal to him.

3706
04:41:47,265 --> 04:41:51,265
he should not listen to me things like this. But when, when we

3707
04:41:51,505 --> 04:41:55,405
say something, we're gonna do, and when, when another entity that has a

3708
04:41:55,525 --> 04:41:59,085
state mandate that that's, they have a footprint in multiple states, dominion,

3709
04:41:59,555 --> 04:42:03,345
they, they've got an obligation in front of you guys to,

3710
04:42:03,625 --> 04:42:07,595
to deliver power. And when they say they want 20 megawatts here, that

3711
04:42:07,885 --> 04:42:11,725
means they've made a very careful decision to do that because they understand

3712
04:42:12,165 --> 04:42:16,125
the load profile of your customers, and, you know, both commercial and industrial as well as residential

3713
04:42:16,965 --> 04:42:20,605
customers. It's, it's, it's that simple and that difficult,

3714
04:42:21,085 --> 04:42:25,045
but they understand the difficulties. So, uh, I I, I really, I

3715
04:42:25,165 --> 04:42:28,725
really think the, the county will, will benefit just from the infrastructure

3716
04:42:29,695 --> 04:42:33,485
standpoint here. So it, it, it's nothing, you know, there is nothing

3717
04:42:33,945 --> 04:42:37,365
per se, sexy about, uh, about the industry. It's a pretty serious sector.

3718
04:42:38,265 --> 04:42:42,205
uh, it's, it's, it's, it's what people like, just like you guys have hospitals, like,

3719
04:42:42,555 --> 04:42:46,505
like we all have, uh, it's infrastructure. That's,

3720
04:42:46,925 --> 04:42:50,785
that's what, what can I say? We, we have, we have many awards, you know, the,

3721
04:42:51,025 --> 04:42:54,845
for the water authority. Earlier, earlier today, everybody recognized that it's important.

3722
04:42:55,665 --> 04:42:59,565
me, me too. I drink water, you know, a gallon a

3723
04:42:59,685 --> 04:43:02,685
day. So I, it's important. I, I, I love having this phone charged.

3724
04:43:04,465 --> 04:43:08,435
so I, it's, it's, it's, it's a basic need. And I, I I I, I just hope that,

3725
04:43:08,795 --> 04:43:12,285
that the board members would, would, would, would use their experience

3726
04:43:13,185 --> 04:43:17,085
and, and, and the benefits that they'll get in, in, in making, in making

3727
04:43:17,405 --> 04:43:21,045
a decision. And I think it's gonna be a good one. I think we heard many, many arguments,

3728
04:43:21,915 --> 04:43:25,885
both technical and non-technical today, uh, for solar. And I,

3729
04:43:26,245 --> 04:43:29,925
I, I just, I just really, I'm very much convinced that, that, that this

3730
04:43:30,405 --> 04:43:34,235
facility would, would benefit, uh, uh, all of the residents, uh, roughly

3731
04:43:34,775 --> 04:43:38,605
3000 of them or, or immediately identifiable customers

3732
04:43:38,845 --> 04:43:42,745
that, that are sitting on the same distribution line, uh, walmart, vulcan,

3733
04:43:43,465 --> 04:43:47,425
and tindel and, and many businesses that, that, I don't know. I'm,

3734
04:43:47,745 --> 04:43:51,365
I'm confident that more businesses here, they're smaller, but, but they're also important,

3735
04:43:51,885 --> 04:43:55,845
I think. So I think that's kind of, I would be happy to answer more

3736
04:43:56,245 --> 04:43:58,905
questions to the extent you have. Um,

3737
04:44:00,315 --> 04:44:04,205
okay. Um, mr, just a quick question. Vadim and your team

3738
04:44:05,465 --> 04:44:09,365
did, did y'all reach out to dominion and say, we would love for

3739
04:44:09,565 --> 04:44:13,445
you to bring a representative to this meeting or any other

3740
04:44:13,645 --> 04:44:16,545
meetings that you've had in other communities mm-hmm . To say,

3741
04:44:18,425 --> 04:44:22,035
we want to be a part of your community. Had,

3742
04:44:22,955 --> 04:44:25,695
did you reach out to them and say, we'd love for you to come

3743
04:44:27,235 --> 04:44:30,855
and just say, we wanna be a part of your community. We wanna be a good neighbor,

3744
04:44:31,715 --> 04:44:35,705
and we're gonna be buying this energy, and we're gonna be providing it to the citizens at inwood. Right?

3745
04:44:36,265 --> 04:44:40,195
right. So was that ask of dominion energy? Great question. We did

3746
04:44:40,415 --> 04:44:44,255
reach out to dominion several times, asking to send

3747
04:44:44,535 --> 04:44:48,165
a representative, even from the marketing group, so you could hear essentially

3748
04:44:48,875 --> 04:44:52,805
the same message. Uh, the response is due to, to internal

3749
04:44:53,365 --> 04:44:57,155
policies. And due to the fact that they own their own facilities, they

3750
04:44:57,465 --> 04:45:01,045
prefer not to kind of meddle in, in, in, in, in those

3751
04:45:01,485 --> 04:45:05,345
decisions. So, because dominion is also experiencing, I think the same, the

3752
04:45:05,565 --> 04:45:09,445
same objections in, in other counties when they come with solar, or there are other assets,

3753
04:45:09,965 --> 04:45:13,765
I assume. So I think I can, I can understand why, why a different

3754
04:45:14,005 --> 04:45:17,765
entity, uh, would not want to do that. But what I can tell you is they've

3755
04:45:18,085 --> 04:45:21,955
made a careful decision. We, we want a pretty serious, serious

3756
04:45:22,725 --> 04:45:26,645
rfp. And, and, and, uh, I, I've worked

3757
04:45:26,845 --> 04:45:30,595
with many utilities across, across the us multiple states. I've

3758
04:45:30,885 --> 04:45:34,495
helped some utilities enter the renewable space, be it, be it windows solar,

3759
04:45:35,425 --> 04:45:39,285
and they know what they're doing. That what that I can tell you, they're very intelligent,

3760
04:45:39,755 --> 04:45:43,365
very experienced. They understand every single customer they have better than anyone,

3761
04:45:43,865 --> 04:45:47,805
better than us. And when they award anything that, that,

3762
04:45:48,085 --> 04:45:51,965
that is a statement that means this project will have life, will have life

3763
04:45:52,275 --> 04:45:55,885
because we need it. Mr. Chair, the reason

3764
04:45:56,285 --> 04:46:00,285
why I ask that is because dominion has made $120 million investment

3765
04:46:00,745 --> 04:46:04,385
in this community. Mm-hmm . And I would certainly think that they would be,

3766
04:46:05,155 --> 04:46:08,845
want to, to say, we want to be a good partner. Well, they've already done it with $120 million

3767
04:46:10,025 --> 04:46:13,965
in investment. Sure. You would think that they would want the board to say, we want

3768
04:46:14,165 --> 04:46:18,125
to guarantee that we've got power in di witty county. And that's why I asked the

3769
04:46:18,365 --> 04:46:21,925
question. I I, I will tell you the, uh, the condition under which they would appear.

3770
04:46:22,985 --> 04:46:26,605
we own the project. Okay? We sell, but we sell

3771
04:46:27,285 --> 04:46:31,165
electrons to them. So that's, that's one, one scenario.

3772
04:46:31,745 --> 04:46:35,685
if they own the project, I wouldn't be standing in front of

3773
04:46:35,845 --> 04:46:39,605
you because it's their project and they would be getting a per permit for their

3774
04:46:39,965 --> 04:46:43,925
project. And dominion does, does business in two ways. They have

3775
04:46:44,085 --> 04:46:47,765
their own generation facilities, and they have generation facilities owned by others

3776
04:46:48,235 --> 04:46:52,165
like us. And not many, many companies like us, we're just one of them. So that's

3777
04:46:52,445 --> 04:46:55,915
really kind of the, the, the reason. So it's not an indication that

3778
04:46:56,565 --> 04:47:00,405
dominion is not interested in this project. I no, I, I know, I realize it.

3779
04:47:01,005 --> 04:47:04,625
I can answer that question for you. Um, thursday night, um,

3780
04:47:05,705 --> 04:47:08,965
one of the top ceos of dominion, bill murray,

3781
04:47:10,025 --> 04:47:13,965
um, hosted a, a supple for the board of directors. And he,

3782
04:47:14,345 --> 04:47:17,595
he told county officials, um, that

3783
04:47:18,545 --> 04:47:21,765
if a solar project was cited in your county,

3784
04:47:23,645 --> 04:47:27,545
dominion would, would automatically take the

3785
04:47:27,765 --> 04:47:31,505
power from that, um, project. He

3786
04:47:31,835 --> 04:47:35,665
also said that they had no skin in

3787
04:47:35,885 --> 04:47:39,805
the game for what? Local land use decisions.

3788
04:47:40,505 --> 04:47:44,485
so basically you approve it, they're gonna take the power, they don't care where

3789
04:47:44,765 --> 04:47:48,485
it's at or anything other than they will take the power.

3790
04:47:49,135 --> 04:47:51,245
thank you, mr. Lee. And, and, and, and just for the record,

3791
04:47:53,265 --> 04:47:56,585
we already have a contract with, with the off the,

3792
04:47:57,505 --> 04:48:01,045
and it's a long-term power purchase agreement. So it's not, it's not something that,

3793
04:48:01,515 --> 04:48:04,725
that we, we want. It's not, you know, aspirational

3794
04:48:05,785 --> 04:48:09,785
in nature. It's what currently exists. We're obligated to

3795
04:48:10,005 --> 04:48:13,485
deliver power to them, and they want it, they're ready to pay. And those

3796
04:48:14,085 --> 04:48:17,885
electrons will, will, will, will benefit every single, uh, person area because

3797
04:48:18,475 --> 04:48:22,275
it's clean, affordable, and reliable. And dominion said, so just

3798
04:48:22,565 --> 04:48:26,525
like you, dr. Moore, you say something to the patient, that means it's, it's a

3799
04:48:26,605 --> 04:48:30,085
rule. I, I wear my glasses 'cause I can't see very well,

3800
04:48:30,885 --> 04:48:34,525
I can't see you guys, but I can't see anything that's one meter in front of me.

3801
04:48:35,385 --> 04:48:39,125
so, uh, I, I trust eye doctors. I think, I think

3802
04:48:39,475 --> 04:48:43,045
that, you know, I, I, I feel like a lot of people when they, when they speak,

3803
04:48:43,715 --> 04:48:47,625
they, they, they tend to go a little bit outside of their profession and,

3804
04:48:47,865 --> 04:48:51,805
and knowledge base. And I do respect it, but I think, uh, uh, when I go

3805
04:48:51,965 --> 04:48:55,885
to, to a doctor, that means I made an educated decision that I need glasses. And if he

3806
04:48:56,005 --> 04:48:59,855
confirms that I do, he just prescribes whatever that is. Two, two and a half minus

3807
04:49:00,345 --> 04:49:04,325
two. So that's really kind of, uh, the approach. So again, I just

3808
04:49:04,405 --> 04:49:08,315
want down underline, it's a, it's a pretty, pretty critical, solar is not, it's,

3809
04:49:08,715 --> 04:49:12,425
it's, it's not amuse, it's not an amusement. I don't sell, uh,

3810
04:49:12,745 --> 04:49:16,725
vaping products to use. This is a basic need. Just like, just like

3811
04:49:16,975 --> 04:49:20,705
water. Just like solar. We need electricity. Uh,

3812
04:49:24,355 --> 04:49:27,955
okay. Alright. Any other questions? Alright,

3813
04:49:28,445 --> 04:49:32,075
thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

3814
04:49:32,585 --> 04:49:36,375
um, it's been a long night. Um, but I would

3815
04:49:36,755 --> 04:49:40,635
like to, um, reiterate that,

3816
04:49:41,545 --> 04:49:44,765
um, this is a, is the rezoning

3817
04:49:45,835 --> 04:49:49,605
portion of, of this. So this is to rezone

3818
04:49:50,095 --> 04:49:53,465
containing approximately 196 acres. So,

3819
04:49:54,345 --> 04:49:58,315
um, two more parts to this, but this is the first part

3820
04:49:58,745 --> 04:50:02,465
of it. So, um, now

3821
04:50:02,855 --> 04:50:06,485
discussion of board, board members or what is the pleasure

3822
04:50:07,265 --> 04:50:07,685
of the board?

3823
04:50:20,695 --> 04:50:24,115
sorry, I'll, I'll start. I'll, I have a few comments. Um, several,

3824
04:50:24,825 --> 04:50:28,805
uh, I guess it's a few years ago now, I was kind of sitting in the same seat that

3825
04:50:29,865 --> 04:50:33,365
ms. Eng, mr. Daniel and ms. Harville were in

3826
04:50:34,145 --> 04:50:37,885
as a solar industrial, solar field was proposed behind my house.

3827
04:50:39,225 --> 04:50:43,125
and while not opposed to

3828
04:50:43,325 --> 04:50:46,985
solar in general, I was opposed to it being in,

3829
04:50:47,385 --> 04:50:50,965
in my backyard. I raised cows and horses and children

3830
04:50:52,145 --> 04:50:56,045
and there are a lot of unknowns. There's a lot of fear. I

3831
04:50:56,165 --> 04:51:00,125
have a pond. I have mr. Flowers knows well because I'm in a house that he loves

3832
04:51:01,425 --> 04:51:05,365
and he spent a lot of time in and built a, a, a good portion of it.

3833
04:51:06,185 --> 04:51:09,655
um, and I'm so thankful that the board at that time

3834
04:51:10,315 --> 04:51:14,235
saw fit to listen to me and my family and our concerns. Uh,

3835
04:51:14,935 --> 04:51:18,705
I don't take it lightly. When I look at mr. Walker, who I've known for years

3836
04:51:19,155 --> 04:51:23,035
and worked with his wife, uh, the masons,

3837
04:51:23,835 --> 04:51:27,795
uh, I've been a, a part of their life through their daughter and

3838
04:51:28,395 --> 04:51:32,255
as a resource officer at the school. So I don't take it lightly that this impacts

3839
04:51:33,055 --> 04:51:36,935
families across the board. However, when I chose to run for

3840
04:51:37,135 --> 04:51:41,055
this position, I told folks that I would be the voice for

3841
04:51:41,255 --> 04:51:44,975
our community. And that's district one. Uh, a few days ago, back in

3842
04:51:45,275 --> 04:51:49,255
on thursday, I I put out a feedback post on facebook because I

3843
04:51:49,375 --> 04:51:53,175
think it's imperative for our representatives to represent us.

3844
04:51:53,725 --> 04:51:57,415
yeah, I wish at the state level that we had folks that would reach out because communication

3845
04:51:57,735 --> 04:52:01,565
is so easy. I'd spoke with, uh, this gentleman, william last

3846
04:52:01,855 --> 04:52:05,795
friday and said the exact same words, communication is easy now. Now

3847
04:52:06,035 --> 04:52:09,495
all you have to do is, is put it, put it out there and people will tell you what they think.

3848
04:52:10,675 --> 04:52:14,405
and resoundingly from district one in our community, in this project

3849
04:52:15,335 --> 04:52:19,295
specifically that identified as four 60 across from walmart,

3850
04:52:20,595 --> 04:52:24,005
my community said no. And so that makes my job

3851
04:52:24,725 --> 04:52:28,685
a little bit easier because I know I'm representing what was the

3852
04:52:29,045 --> 04:52:32,605
feedback to me, it makes it difficult to look at you and know that it impacts your family

3853
04:52:33,585 --> 04:52:37,455
and know that it doesn't check a box or, or, or meet the

3854
04:52:37,615 --> 04:52:40,885
need for your, for your land.

3855
04:52:42,395 --> 04:52:45,895
but my job is to represent my community. And resoundingly they said no.

3856
04:52:50,545 --> 04:52:54,365
any other comments? I'll piggyback on that. Uh, ms. Tipman spoke tonight

3857
04:52:55,065 --> 04:52:59,045
and she has solar in her backyard. And I

3858
04:52:59,275 --> 04:53:01,765
also have had concerns.

3859
04:53:03,665 --> 04:53:06,255
we had one, I think it was 1500 acres

3860
04:53:07,795 --> 04:53:11,405
that came, uh, on brick road in my district.

3861
04:53:12,825 --> 04:53:16,425
and same thing as mr. Dooley

3862
04:53:16,845 --> 04:53:20,645
said, you know, I had my constituents come to me with concerns

3863
04:53:21,335 --> 04:53:25,245
about the same thing. Uh, but like

3864
04:53:25,445 --> 04:53:28,765
ms. Tipton said, she has it in her backyard and it doesn't perform

3865
04:53:29,825 --> 04:53:33,045
the way that she thought it was, but she's invested.

3866
04:53:34,025 --> 04:53:37,805
you know what I mean? So, like mr. Dooley said, we represent our

3867
04:53:38,245 --> 04:53:42,165
constituents. So that's where, uh, what I have

3868
04:53:42,325 --> 04:53:42,525
to do too,

3869
04:53:46,685 --> 04:53:50,385
I guess I'll talk. It's of course it's in my district. Um,

3870
04:53:52,185 --> 04:53:56,145
it is adjacent to commercial properties. Um,

3871
04:53:58,165 --> 04:54:02,105
I thought about this project for over a year now 'cause I voted against it a year ago.

3872
04:54:02,905 --> 04:54:06,525
but you know, the tone has changed tonight. And when I say the tone,

3873
04:54:07,545 --> 04:54:10,875
the urgency of the grid has changed tonight.

3874
04:54:12,345 --> 04:54:16,235
we didn't hear this a year ago about data centers and other things, the urgency

3875
04:54:16,725 --> 04:54:19,925
of the grid, but we are hearing it tonight.

3876
04:54:21,195 --> 04:54:24,665
okay? And so that's why I asked the question about the feedback in,

3877
04:54:25,355 --> 04:54:29,325
into our grid to support the people of denwitty county.

3878
04:54:30,735 --> 04:54:34,665
everything that I've read is a solar panel. You get about 25% use

3879
04:54:34,985 --> 04:54:37,455
out of it. So as a small business owner,

3880
04:54:39,105 --> 04:54:42,925
if I had an employee that worked 25% of the time,

3881
04:54:44,415 --> 04:54:46,645
would I be comfortable with that employee?

3882
04:54:49,355 --> 04:54:52,745
just food for thought. Okay. If I had a car

3883
04:54:53,955 --> 04:54:57,775
that 25% of the time it worked,

3884
04:54:58,725 --> 04:55:02,525
what would I do with the car? I probably would think about something

3885
04:55:03,135 --> 04:55:06,405
different. Um, there are other sources

3886
04:55:07,195 --> 04:55:10,555
of energy that are well more, um,

3887
04:55:11,705 --> 04:55:15,415
productive, um, that we had

3888
04:55:15,815 --> 04:55:19,775
an opportunity to this state to produce a certain product

3889
04:55:20,355 --> 04:55:24,075
and it was killed, which is gonna have a direct impact

3890
04:55:24,595 --> 04:55:28,415
on our economy in this state and other places, um, for years

3891
04:55:28,715 --> 04:55:32,375
to come. Um, there are, as in my mind,

3892
04:55:32,905 --> 04:55:36,755
other sources and yes, they're not here right now, but

3893
04:55:36,975 --> 04:55:40,795
you can talk to our energy company and they will tell you

3894
04:55:41,285 --> 04:55:45,095
that they are focusing on the next generation of

3895
04:55:45,305 --> 04:55:48,975
power. Okay? Now, of course, our friends in, in chesterfield county

3896
04:55:49,765 --> 04:55:52,625
have a project before them. It is not solar.

3897
04:55:53,875 --> 04:55:57,235
um, but it is a vital component to

3898
04:55:58,475 --> 04:56:01,895
all of our needs. I pray that they will vote

3899
04:56:02,515 --> 04:56:06,255
for it to allow it to happen in their community. I have

3900
04:56:06,615 --> 04:56:10,075
a patient of mine and also a church member of mine that worked at the dutch gap

3901
04:56:10,665 --> 04:56:14,575
plant. And most of you in here may know where that is up on.

3902
04:56:14,735 --> 04:56:18,335
right? One going to richmond. Yes. He told me one time he said

3903
04:56:19,035 --> 04:56:22,675
it would take 13,000 acres of

3904
04:56:23,155 --> 04:56:26,985
panels to produce the same amount of energy that that plant

3905
04:56:27,365 --> 04:56:31,265
does. 13,000 acres.

3906
04:56:34,395 --> 04:56:38,215
now we've got our friends and neighbors around us that we've

3907
04:56:38,455 --> 04:56:42,405
heard about a couple of 'em that are 8,000 acres to produce

3908
04:56:42,905 --> 04:56:46,885
energy. So then you asked yourself,

3909
04:56:47,385 --> 04:56:51,365
is this piece of property, is this the highest and best use for the property?

3910
04:56:52,925 --> 04:56:56,685
probably gonna get variations of who thinks what for the property.

3911
04:56:58,205 --> 04:57:00,965
I could probably sit here and say, if vulcan were to come,

3912
04:57:02,285 --> 04:57:05,205
I probably would consider doing something

3913
04:57:06,305 --> 04:57:09,965
on that property. If tyndall concrete were to come,

3914
04:57:11,015 --> 04:57:14,505
would we consider doing something going down the, the bed?

3915
04:57:15,085 --> 04:57:18,395
I can't answer that 'cause I don't know what that answer would be. Okay,

3916
04:57:22,265 --> 04:57:26,085
the agricultural integrity of the county. I know we've talked about

3917
04:57:26,325 --> 04:57:30,205
that tonight. That is one of our mainstays that we talk about.

3918
04:57:31,105 --> 04:57:34,975
um, the more important piece of that is not just this piece

3919
04:57:35,325 --> 04:57:39,195
of property. Each

3920
04:57:39,505 --> 04:57:43,445
is supposed to be taken for their own merit. I understand

3921
04:57:43,965 --> 04:57:47,585
that. But there is, and will be

3922
04:57:48,475 --> 04:57:51,845
another opportunity that's gonna come before this board. It's coming.

3923
04:57:53,195 --> 04:57:57,125
it's just a question of when the other

3924
04:57:57,505 --> 04:58:00,725
is convenience, attractive and harmonic,

3925
04:58:01,745 --> 04:58:05,565
um, harmonious community that's in the denwoody county code section

3926
04:58:05,885 --> 04:58:09,325
22 dash two. Is this a project

3927
04:58:10,595 --> 04:58:12,675
that creates that type of community?

3928
04:58:15,105 --> 04:58:18,905
in my mind, I don't necessarily see that. So

3929
04:58:22,275 --> 04:58:25,145
that probably tells you where I stand. Thank you.

3930
04:58:27,695 --> 04:58:31,625
well, uh, and of course in my district, uh, when I talk

3931
04:58:31,825 --> 04:58:35,745
about solar, they, um, they like the idea.

3932
04:58:36,885 --> 04:58:40,425
um, I think some people would, uh, of course like that

3933
04:58:41,445 --> 04:58:45,415
on their houses and that kind of thing. But so I am, uh, far away

3934
04:58:45,705 --> 04:58:49,455
from the particular project. So when I talk to my citizens, they,

3935
04:58:51,325 --> 04:58:55,095
um, they're kind of back and forth, but, uh, they do like

3936
04:58:55,385 --> 04:58:58,625
it, but of course they're not down that way as well.

3937
04:58:59,645 --> 04:59:03,465
so, but, um, I, you know, I do believe that,

3938
04:59:03,845 --> 04:59:07,705
um, a person has a right to do what they would like to do with they own

3939
04:59:08,225 --> 04:59:12,175
property. I do believe that. But sometimes it is a bigger picture that

3940
04:59:12,465 --> 04:59:16,325
we have to look at as far as the citizens and as, uh,

3941
04:59:16,565 --> 04:59:20,345
the citizens came out tonight, you know, pro and for pro and against.

3942
04:59:21,405 --> 04:59:25,375
um, they had some, some good information that

3943
04:59:25,665 --> 04:59:28,885
they passed on to us to listen to. And, um,

3944
04:59:30,925 --> 04:59:34,665
uh, solar is, um, kind of one of those things

3945
04:59:34,975 --> 04:59:38,005
that, you know, um,

3946
04:59:41,145 --> 04:59:45,045
and again, it's, it, people like it, some people don't. And that's what we have in this room tonight.

3947
04:59:46,185 --> 04:59:49,965
and, uh, and I think some of the people who actually left, because I know of course it's

3948
04:59:50,245 --> 04:59:54,245
getting late, but, um, I, I

3949
04:59:54,365 --> 04:59:58,185
just think at this point, um, sometimes things, something may

3950
04:59:58,405 --> 05:00:02,365
come bigger for the people who have property and maybe you may wanna look at something

3951
05:00:02,685 --> 05:00:06,615
different, um, and that could

3952
05:00:06,965 --> 05:00:10,905
be more productive for you. Uh, so I'm

3953
05:00:11,125 --> 05:00:14,745
just kind of, um, leaning in that direction and,

3954
05:00:15,825 --> 05:00:18,245
um, we're just hoping for the best for everyone tonight.

3955
05:00:20,385 --> 05:00:24,165
um, I thought about taking the easy way out tonight and just let these guys

3956
05:00:24,475 --> 05:00:28,275
talk and, and just be chairman, um, tonight,

3957
05:00:28,905 --> 05:00:32,575
but I haven't ever done that. Um, and so my first train

3958
05:00:32,945 --> 05:00:36,825
of thought is, uh, you know, environmentalist, uh, um,

3959
05:00:37,765 --> 05:00:41,545
somewhat, um, different, um, people and, and

3960
05:00:41,865 --> 05:00:45,505
my, um, I guess my example of that is,

3961
05:00:46,305 --> 05:00:49,965
um, they don't want a natural gas pipeline

3962
05:00:50,505 --> 05:00:54,015
in the mountains of virginia from west virginia to greenville.

3963
05:00:55,065 --> 05:00:59,045
uh, emporia, two plants down there, but they don't

3964
05:00:59,325 --> 05:01:03,245
mind 8,000 acres of solar panels in

3965
05:01:03,365 --> 05:01:06,705
brunswick county. That just baffles me

3966
05:01:07,595 --> 05:01:11,565
that, um, that we have. And, and the 8,000

3967
05:01:12,165 --> 05:01:15,835
in brunswick is just a drop in the bucket to the ones

3968
05:01:16,545 --> 05:01:19,905
in suffolk, uh, sussex, um,

3969
05:01:20,985 --> 05:01:24,955
all across the state. Um, it's not a lot of farm land here,

3970
05:01:25,985 --> 05:01:29,595
but every little bit of farm land is another drop

3971
05:01:30,065 --> 05:01:33,325
in the bucket. Um, I believe mr. Flowers

3972
05:01:35,265 --> 05:01:39,055
at, at the end of the day, he's gonna sell parts

3973
05:01:39,465 --> 05:01:42,865
of this property for either commercial use,

3974
05:01:43,705 --> 05:01:47,365
um, industrial use, um, I don't know when,

3975
05:01:48,425 --> 05:01:52,235
um, but to, to have

3976
05:01:52,525 --> 05:01:55,985
to make this decision. I understand. Um,

3977
05:01:57,465 --> 05:02:01,425
my grandchildren of seventh generation on our farm, um,

3978
05:02:02,445 --> 05:02:06,035
farmland has a different meaning for me than some

3979
05:02:06,725 --> 05:02:10,525
people. Um, it doesn't have any value 'cause I'm not gonna

3980
05:02:10,765 --> 05:02:14,475
sell it. Um, I'm paying taxes on it, yes, but also,

3981
05:02:15,265 --> 05:02:19,125
um, got a son that's farming it and he, he helps pay the taxes

3982
05:02:19,555 --> 05:02:23,385
with that. Um, so it,

3983
05:02:23,625 --> 05:02:27,605
it, it's, um, it's a hard decision,

3984
05:02:27,825 --> 05:02:31,605
but it's also, when we look at where denwood county's

3985
05:02:32,165 --> 05:02:35,965
future is 20, 30 years from now, the decisions we make

3986
05:02:36,175 --> 05:02:39,965
today will, uh, determine what then what he looks like

3987
05:02:40,225 --> 05:02:43,725
in the future. And I,

3988
05:02:44,505 --> 05:02:48,385
I'm from, uh, lake jordan, downright one

3989
05:02:49,265 --> 05:02:52,285
old hickory to, uh, mckinney.

3990
05:02:53,705 --> 05:02:57,505
um, as, as ms. Bonna will say,

3991
05:02:58,025 --> 05:03:01,445
it, it is dark in those areas, not many street lights.

3992
05:03:02,345 --> 05:03:06,315
um, so, um, we like

3993
05:03:07,115 --> 05:03:11,085
what it looks like. And, um, so the rural character

3994
05:03:11,705 --> 05:03:15,035
has, has a really a a lot to do with, with

3995
05:03:16,025 --> 05:03:19,525
how I feel about so law. So what's the

3996
05:03:20,085 --> 05:03:23,975
pleasure of this board, mr. Chair?

3997
05:03:24,325 --> 05:03:28,205
I'll make a motion be it resolved that in order to assure compliance with virginia

3998
05:03:28,365 --> 05:03:31,735
code section 15.2 dash 2 2 8 6 a seven.

3999
05:03:32,745 --> 05:03:36,725
it is stated that the public purpose for which this resolution is initiated is to fulfill

4000
05:03:37,105 --> 05:03:40,985
the requirements of public necessity, convenience, general welfare, and

4001
05:03:41,205 --> 05:03:44,725
good zoning practice. I move that rezoning p dash 25

4002
05:03:45,435 --> 05:03:49,425
dash eight as presented, be disapproved by the board of supervisors. Do

4003
05:03:49,645 --> 05:03:53,485
we have a second? Second? Could we have the roll call

4004
05:03:53,765 --> 05:03:57,425
please? Dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye.

4005
05:03:57,945 --> 05:04:01,665
ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley?

4006
05:04:02,465 --> 05:04:05,665
aye. Mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye um,

4007
05:04:07,545 --> 05:04:11,285
mr. Southall, um, this was the rezoning case.

4008
05:04:11,785 --> 05:04:15,365
so could you explain, um, where we go,

4009
05:04:15,865 --> 05:04:19,195
um, with the other two cases and what, what we need to do from

4010
05:04:20,065 --> 05:04:23,985
mr. Chairman? There were three solar related public hearings scheduled tonight. The

4011
05:04:24,205 --> 05:04:28,125
first is a rezoning, the second was a conditional use permit. The third

4012
05:04:28,545 --> 05:04:32,265
was to consider a siting agreement, um, really

4013
05:04:32,805 --> 05:04:36,525
a prerequisite to the conditional use permit as well as really the siting agreement

4014
05:04:37,025 --> 05:04:41,005
is, is that a rezoning be approved. And so in light of the

4015
05:04:41,125 --> 05:04:45,005
fact that the rezoning has been disapproved, there's really not a point in

4016
05:04:45,205 --> 05:04:48,965
having a public hearing on the other two items as seen as the

4017
05:04:49,285 --> 05:04:53,225
rezoning has been disapproved. Okay. Alright. So,

4018
05:04:53,905 --> 05:04:57,755
um, we will not hear the other two, um, conditional

4019
05:04:58,505 --> 05:05:02,385
use permit cases and we will move to all new

4020
05:05:02,605 --> 05:05:06,265
visits. Um, and we have appointments. Mr.

4021
05:05:07,435 --> 05:05:11,325
yeah, mr. Chairman, members of the board, we have a, a need to make an appointment to

4022
05:05:11,525 --> 05:05:15,125
the crater planning district, uh, metropolitan planning organization

4023
05:05:15,905 --> 05:05:19,675
or the mpoi make a motion that

4024
05:05:19,965 --> 05:05:23,905
we, uh, appoint casey dooley to the mpo. Uh,

4025
05:05:25,465 --> 05:05:29,445
uh, expiration will be september the 30th, 26th. Do they have

4026
05:05:29,605 --> 05:05:32,925
a second? One second. Do we have the wrong call, please?

4027
05:05:34,665 --> 05:05:38,665
dr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner aye. Mr.

4028
05:05:38,985 --> 05:05:42,245
dooley abstain. Mr. Lee? Aye. Four ayes. One abstain.

4029
05:05:44,065 --> 05:05:48,045
mr. Chairman, we also have a need to make an appointment to the dewine county industrial development authority

4030
05:05:48,465 --> 05:05:52,045
or ida. I'd like to reappoint michelle

4031
05:05:52,665 --> 05:05:54,405
ers for term to expire. 7 31 20 29.

4032
05:05:58,625 --> 05:06:02,505
do we have a second? Second, uh, roll call dr. Moore?

4033
05:06:03,425 --> 05:06:07,265
aye. Mr. Chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner. Aye. Mr. Dooley? Aye.

4034
05:06:07,545 --> 05:06:11,325
mr. Lee? Aye. All voting? Aye mr. Chairman, no other appointments for tonight?

4035
05:06:11,875 --> 05:06:15,665
okay. Alright, we're gonna move on to citizen comment. Uh, do

4036
05:06:15,885 --> 05:06:19,525
we have anyone signed up as citizen comment? Mr. Chairman, we have no one signed up.

4037
05:06:20,115 --> 05:06:23,665
okay. I'll close citizen comment. Um,

4038
05:06:24,225 --> 05:06:27,865
at this time we'll have board member comments. Mr.

4039
05:06:28,265 --> 05:06:32,185
do, I'll start. Um, I wanna thank everyone for coming out tonight. Um,

4040
05:06:32,965 --> 05:06:36,725
I know it's uncomfortable to speak in front of folks and it's a

4041
05:06:37,065 --> 05:06:40,925
really a contentious topic, um,

4042
05:06:41,165 --> 05:06:44,805
for our community. Uh, it's very much split between the,

4043
05:06:45,765 --> 05:06:49,545
the rural and agricultural community and, and those that live in a more

4044
05:06:50,275 --> 05:06:54,145
urban environment. Um, I agree that

4045
05:06:54,355 --> 05:06:57,985
landowners rights are, are very important. Uh, in cases like this

4046
05:06:58,725 --> 05:07:02,705
though, the way that I look at it is, is that the folks that have moved in that area and that have

4047
05:07:02,865 --> 05:07:06,385
purchased land or, or obtained land through, through will or through,

4048
05:07:07,325 --> 05:07:10,985
um, you know, that that property was, was zoned agricultural

4049
05:07:12,045 --> 05:07:15,525
or it's zoned industrial, whatever the case may be. And

4050
05:07:16,255 --> 05:07:20,225
what is being asked of this board is to change the rules in which the people that live in

4051
05:07:20,345 --> 05:07:23,905
the area and the community around it change. Sometimes that's mid game,

4052
05:07:24,775 --> 05:07:28,265
that the folks that bought their property in that area chose it for a reason.

4053
05:07:29,325 --> 05:07:33,325
and it's our duty to, to look at it in the highest and best use

4054
05:07:34,125 --> 05:07:37,965
of our community. And that's also those that live right in the backyard of it. But

4055
05:07:38,185 --> 05:07:41,465
we can't forget about those. And it's not about a dollar figure,

4056
05:07:42,335 --> 05:07:45,395
it's about our community. Uh, tax revenue comes

4057
05:07:46,365 --> 05:07:49,505
at the largest portion on the backs of our citizens.

4058
05:07:50,765 --> 05:07:53,905
we need to find a re responsible way to lift that burden

4059
05:07:55,345 --> 05:07:59,235
for all, not for just a few. So when

4060
05:07:59,525 --> 05:08:03,485
I look at these cases, it's not done easily. I'm sweating up here right now. Mm-hmm. Honestly. Mm-hmm.

4061
05:08:04,065 --> 05:08:06,005
uh, it's, it's an uncomfortable position to be in,

4062
05:08:08,265 --> 05:08:12,135
but it's, I'm okay with it. Uh, I'm okay with the

4063
05:08:12,415 --> 05:08:16,075
decision that I made, uh, because it's the decision that was handed

4064
05:08:16,515 --> 05:08:19,915
to me by our citizens. Amen. Dr. Murphy.

4065
05:08:20,605 --> 05:08:24,335
yeah. And I just wanna say thank you to everybody coming out. Um, this is something that we've

4066
05:08:24,655 --> 05:08:28,615
looked at for the last year. Um, and you know,

4067
05:08:28,895 --> 05:08:32,735
I appreciate all the comments that casey has made.

4068
05:08:33,545 --> 05:08:37,065
um, they're all things that we've d dwelt on. Um,

4069
05:08:37,945 --> 05:08:41,235
you know, I don't, I don't take making a decision like this lightly.

4070
05:08:42,465 --> 05:08:45,765
um, it's one of, one of the most difficult

4071
05:08:46,525 --> 05:08:50,395
decisions that we have to make is land use policy. Okay?

4072
05:08:51,545 --> 05:08:54,465
and I can only speak for me

4073
05:08:56,665 --> 05:09:00,235
is that I just feel like there are individuals,

4074
05:09:01,515 --> 05:09:05,365
individuals have rights to do certain things with their

4075
05:09:05,635 --> 05:09:09,325
land, but then there are also people that live around that

4076
05:09:09,915 --> 05:09:13,685
land and it directly impacts them. And so you have

4077
05:09:13,925 --> 05:09:17,925
to weigh that balance to, to figure out which is,

4078
05:09:18,135 --> 05:09:22,025
which is the best for the community in general. And that's

4079
05:09:22,905 --> 05:09:26,425
the decision that I made tonight. So thank each of you.

4080
05:09:29,275 --> 05:09:33,245
yeah. Um, again, it, it, it is a, a hard

4081
05:09:33,485 --> 05:09:37,445
thing to, to agree on and, you know, of

4082
05:09:37,605 --> 05:09:41,345
course, um, we do appreciate everyone coming and saying, giving

4083
05:09:41,775 --> 05:09:44,425
their, um, their, um,

4084
05:09:46,065 --> 05:09:49,435
how they, how they feel about the projects. I do believe that

4085
05:09:50,585 --> 05:09:53,525
the right another good project

4086
05:09:54,795 --> 05:09:58,585
will come and you will have an opportunity to weigh in to

4087
05:09:58,805 --> 05:10:02,445
do what you feel is best. The ones who, um, were not

4088
05:10:02,925 --> 05:10:06,865
a part of it as well as the, the ones who were a part of

4089
05:10:07,085 --> 05:10:10,925
making this. I think that, um, we look at the long

4090
05:10:11,145 --> 05:10:15,025
run, I think, um, some good things are gonna come and

4091
05:10:15,345 --> 05:10:19,285
we just have to be open-minded and, and, and really prayerful about that because

4092
05:10:19,805 --> 05:10:23,035
I think, um, something will come

4093
05:10:23,825 --> 05:10:27,765
that's going to be beneficial to everyone that has come here, whether

4094
05:10:28,085 --> 05:10:31,825
it's, um, whether you are for or against. So I'm just, um,

4095
05:10:32,195 --> 05:10:36,085
just hoping because it is, it is hard to be up here to do that, do this. And again,

4096
05:10:36,485 --> 05:10:40,445
I said I do believe that a landowner has a right to do what

4097
05:10:40,725 --> 05:10:44,685
they would like to do, but when it impacts people around you,

4098
05:10:44,995 --> 05:10:48,765
then we have to look at, um, how we gonna vote on that. So I just,

4099
05:10:49,435 --> 05:10:52,885
just wanted to say that to everyone. Thank you.

4100
05:10:53,725 --> 05:10:57,685
I just echo, uh, what everyone said and thank you for those that spoke

4101
05:10:58,005 --> 05:11:01,865
tonight. Um, we had some good information and,

4102
05:11:02,185 --> 05:11:06,045
uh, and it is, it's hard decision to make when it

4103
05:11:06,205 --> 05:11:09,685
comes to your land. So thank you again,

4104
05:11:10,655 --> 05:11:13,365
thank everyone on this panel. Uh, we support each other

4105
05:11:14,785 --> 05:11:17,955
and, uh, but it's not easy. Uh, alright.

4106
05:11:19,145 --> 05:11:21,385
um, couple of things. Um,

4107
05:11:23,505 --> 05:11:27,485
the manson family, I don't think this is gonna make you feel any better at the end

4108
05:11:27,685 --> 05:11:31,325
of the day, but, um, what, what you talked about

4109
05:11:32,225 --> 05:11:35,645
the fact that you couldn't build a house on, on the land that you

4110
05:11:36,415 --> 05:11:40,045
owned and, and different things. If, if y'all could leave your contact

4111
05:11:40,755 --> 05:11:44,545
information with kaisha, I'd like to at least get

4112
05:11:44,765 --> 05:11:48,545
zoning and understand what's

4113
05:11:48,965 --> 05:11:52,505
going on on y'all's piece of property. Well, the, you know, um,

4114
05:11:53,195 --> 05:11:56,425
just understand the situation. Um, so

4115
05:11:57,385 --> 05:12:01,105
I'm not promising that I can, that we can help or

4116
05:12:01,565 --> 05:12:05,565
anything's gonna change. I just, um, that resonated with

4117
05:12:05,845 --> 05:12:09,725
me. Um, that you've got a piece of property and you can't even build

4118
05:12:10,045 --> 05:12:13,885
a, your a house on your own property. That that doesn't sit well

4119
05:12:14,125 --> 05:12:17,885
with me. So I wanna understand, I know I'm sure

4120
05:12:18,305 --> 05:12:21,885
the county's got a reason, um, and we need to understand

4121
05:12:22,365 --> 05:12:26,025
that. Um, so offer that to you. Um, if,

4122
05:12:26,585 --> 05:12:29,695
if you sow choose, um, the second thing,

4123
05:12:30,705 --> 05:12:34,105
um, nights like tonight are tough. Um,

4124
05:12:35,545 --> 05:12:39,425
we are getting ready to have a town hall series coming up

4125
05:12:40,105 --> 05:12:44,075
and, you know, we get people to board meetings when, when

4126
05:12:44,365 --> 05:12:47,965
it's really up against the wall, something's gonna happen.

4127
05:12:48,945 --> 05:12:52,915
but these town hall meetings really are about land

4128
05:12:53,225 --> 05:12:57,075
use decisions for the future. Um, do we want,

4129
05:12:57,905 --> 05:13:01,745
you know, part of zoning in the eight two district, um,

4130
05:13:01,965 --> 05:13:05,495
several years ago when subdivisions stopped being built,

4131
05:13:06,725 --> 05:13:10,435
district four, which I said ran from picture lake downright

4132
05:13:11,145 --> 05:13:15,085
one to old hickory to mckinney, I was

4133
05:13:15,285 --> 05:13:19,235
the fastest growing, um, district in than

4134
05:13:19,655 --> 05:13:23,285
woody where I shouldn't have been. And it was a shotgun approach

4135
05:13:24,025 --> 05:13:27,585
if you took the map and just shot it with a load of number eights.

4136
05:13:28,425 --> 05:13:32,185
that's how the houses were being built in this county. And

4137
05:13:32,445 --> 05:13:36,125
I think we need to look at that in the future. Our a two

4138
05:13:36,605 --> 05:13:40,185
districts, we need to preserve them. Um, we need to

4139
05:13:40,795 --> 05:13:44,155
make sure that we don't drop the value of our a two land.

4140
05:13:45,185 --> 05:13:49,085
um, but we also don't wanna put false value on a two land.

4141
05:13:49,585 --> 05:13:53,585
so, um, district one is

4142
05:13:53,805 --> 05:13:57,505
gonna, theirs is gonna be september the 22nd, which is mr. Dooley

4143
05:13:57,925 --> 05:14:01,365
and district one, uh, october the sixth,

4144
05:14:02,285 --> 05:14:06,195
district two, which is dr. Moore, which is west

4145
05:14:06,545 --> 05:14:09,685
end baptist church. Um, district three

4146
05:14:11,065 --> 05:14:14,725
is mr. Chavis, september the eighth at richard bland college.

4147
05:14:15,985 --> 05:14:19,725
um, district four, um, september

4148
05:14:20,025 --> 05:14:23,365
the 10th at the ragsdale community center in mckinney

4149
05:14:25,165 --> 05:14:29,055
district four, wednesday, september the 17th, which, sorry,

4150
05:14:29,575 --> 05:14:33,565
which is me at olive branch baptist church. And then,

4151
05:14:34,505 --> 05:14:38,285
um, district five, which is ms. Bonna, thursday,

4152
05:14:38,845 --> 05:14:42,105
september the fourth, edgehill church of christ. Um,

4153
05:14:43,395 --> 05:14:46,715
this flyer will go out certainly closer to time.

4154
05:14:47,905 --> 05:14:51,145
um, and we'd like to get citizens to come, uh,

4155
05:14:52,145 --> 05:14:56,025
and just talk about what, what they want to see the future of

4156
05:14:56,245 --> 05:14:59,925
ben woody, um, be. And so this is a good opportunity

4157
05:15:01,225 --> 05:15:03,835
for us to listen, but it's also a good opportunity.

4158
05:15:05,425 --> 05:15:09,315
um, mr. Massengill has a dollar bill that

4159
05:15:10,065 --> 05:15:14,025
is broke down with what we spend in this county and it,

4160
05:15:14,355 --> 05:15:18,185
it's very eye open in what we spend our money on in this county. And

4161
05:15:18,405 --> 05:15:21,845
I can tell you the top two are schools and emergency services.

4162
05:15:22,665 --> 05:15:26,035
so, um, you know, we, we formulate

4163
05:15:26,725 --> 05:15:30,585
a budget every year. We pass it in may and, and we stick to

4164
05:15:30,805 --> 05:15:34,765
that budget. Um, so that's part of what we want

4165
05:15:35,005 --> 05:15:38,905
to do is show what's where the money goes and then, um,

4166
05:15:39,715 --> 05:15:43,235
also listen to, to the folks in our district side.

4167
05:15:45,405 --> 05:15:49,365
anything else mr. Matthew? No, just those, the dates that he just mentioned. If, if

4168
05:15:49,565 --> 05:15:53,245
you go to the county website that's on the, the very front homepage and so that,

4169
05:15:53,635 --> 05:15:56,115
that information's there. Yep. Alright.

4170
05:15:57,985 --> 05:16:01,005
can we have a motion to adjourn? So moved.

4171
05:16:02,185 --> 05:16:06,105
second. Second. Roll call dr. Moore. Aye. Mr.

4172
05:16:06,425 --> 05:16:10,105
chavis? Aye. Ms. Ebra bonner aye. Mr. Duley? Aye.

4173
05:16:10,505 --> 05:16:13,005
mr. Lee aye all voting aye meeting is adjourned.