1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,359 [Music] I would like to call to order 2 00:00:03,899 --> 00:00:13,080 a special board meeting up and trustees today is December 27 2022 3 00:00:09,780 --> 00:00:16,500 the time is 607 pm please call the road it's a special one 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:22,020 of you good evening everyone happy holidays 5 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:24,859 trustee Brown president trustee house 6 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:27,740 Verizon 7 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:39,320 trustee homes here Christy Belcher here we have a form 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,320 thank you I'm next with everybody 9 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:58,680 [Music] all right 10 00:00:55,559 --> 00:01:00,980 included um Chief you can lead us in prayer 11 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:09,780 all right good Lord thanks for this day thank you for this awesome assembly of 12 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:13,560 our elected officials Lord please let this be prosperous let it be easy I Lord 13 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:17,159 let us have a wonderful time and just never praying good thanks everyone amen 14 00:01:15,299 --> 00:01:23,060 amen next on agenda 15 00:01:19,260 --> 00:01:23,060 can I have any motion to accept 16 00:01:24,619 --> 00:01:35,180 2022 property tax levy collected in 2023 recordings with the truth and 17 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,180 intoxication law of Illinois 18 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:42,180 promotion is there a second it's been motion is second 19 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:47,220 um any discussion and then before we get into discussion for the record residents 20 00:01:44,820 --> 00:01:52,680 the tax levy has not been increased it's been the same it was at zero no one has 21 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:56,659 increased your property taxes that is for the record of any discussion 22 00:01:57,540 --> 00:02:05,579 so I do understand I looked at the zero percent but then also was looking at the 23 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:09,660 recommendation and the um ordinance from last year comparing it to 24 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:13,080 this year the numbers 25 00:02:11,099 --> 00:02:17,400 from my reading I would do not indicate a zero percent increase Additionally the 26 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:22,980 recommendation there from the spirit showed a net 2.77 increase so if it is 27 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:28,520 at zero percent I guess I would ask for somebody to give 28 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:28,520 you some clarity on wow 29 00:02:31,140 --> 00:02:39,960 10 million 605 069 dollars this year's ordinance is requesting that 30 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:43,020 we let the 11 million 130 [Music] 31 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,800 increase of 32 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:51,560 the first operating levels that increased 33 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:00,060 and overall the next difference was 2.77 so if somebody can give you Clarity on 34 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,560 that yes so I'm gonna turn it over to the 35 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:07,260 finance director you know so Village administrator 36 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:12,120 um but for the record resident just so you know how this goes uh we have 37 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,940 conspirants that's how our County what they do is they go and they find out 38 00:03:13,739 --> 00:03:19,019 what we're struggling that in the village of thought and they give their 39 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:24,599 synopsis to the Board of Trustees and myself they tell us what we're stronger 40 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:29,040 or we can we'll be to increase or so just like the past four meeting we 41 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:33,180 gave this Board of Trustees uh breakdown of what the accountant recommendations 42 00:03:30,659 --> 00:03:35,470 were but it's up to us as a body to choose whether we want to increase it or 43 00:03:34,739 --> 00:03:38,640 decrease [Music] 44 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:43,799 so with that being said I just want that for the record work for word Clerk and I 45 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:46,519 want to give the floor to uh Keith and tanjanique 46 00:03:47,819 --> 00:03:58,620 uh thank you mayor okay so the increase that we have technically is correct uh 47 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:03,420 uh trustee house uh the 4.99 which is the 48 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:06,319 Levy but the levy is free space on 49 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:16,440 on debt that we have and so the debts increase over obviously we have an 50 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:20,760 increase for the bonds the 2009 series buys as well as the Homewood Disposal 51 00:04:18,180 --> 00:04:23,540 bonds uh each one of those the Homewood Disposal bond is one 52 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:30,180 that's carried over over the past two years so that's 20 20 53 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:35,820 and 2022. um I will say that the increase from the 54 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Homewood Bond uh all all of the trustees voted on 55 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,240 5th everybody voted for that so that 56 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:48,060 increases built-in uh to the increase as well as the 57 00:04:44,699 --> 00:04:53,460 increased the fire attention and so those two increases uh along with the 58 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:59,880 homeless disposal bond is the reason why you have the net 4.99 59 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:04,380 which is technically right below the the amount that you would have to have a 60 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:08,940 referendum for but again that's that student inflation and not necessarily to 61 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:12,199 increase the property taxes or the outbreak blood 62 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:21,780 pressure so just uh Clarity the recommendation is a net increase in 63 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:25,500 taxes and well it would have been a net increase 64 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:29,100 in taxes um and just just to give you some some sort of history of it last 65 00:05:27,419 --> 00:05:36,660 year you guys did have a net increase in taxes of 2.61 to 2.61 again took care of 66 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:41,940 the uh the increase in the police bench and the fire pension as well as the 67 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:46,440 first time the first actual bond issue on the home of disposal Bond prior to 68 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:50,520 that you guys didn't have anything and I might 69 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:55,979 to put some context right here you guys didn't do an increase 70 00:05:53,300 --> 00:06:00,560 excuse me about you guys but there was not an increase in 2018 71 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:08,340 on the taxes Levy and then in 2018 um and everyone you know voted for it 72 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:13,620 there was a 42.78 percent uh tax increase and then 73 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:19,020 and that was to make up for the last seven years now there's then you had in 74 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:25,020 2019 there was zero percent uh and then in 2021 there was a 0.01 20 excuse me 20 75 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:31,380 20 there was a point zero one percent twenty twenty uh 2021 is when you had 76 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:34,979 the 2.61 but again that was the first year that the Homewood Disposal Bond was 77 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:39,960 issued and again everyone voted for the home with disposal bond that can retain 78 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:42,199 back to 2009 series bonds and then you increase 79 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:48,060 so so I mean you're going to have an 80 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:53,759 increase you're going to have a tax increase regardless of 81 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:57,360 you know whatever whatever we thought we were going to have a tax increase 82 00:06:54,660 --> 00:07:02,039 regardless but again it's under the statutory rate and again it's zero 83 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:07,380 percent uh is zero it's a zero percent increase in the property tax this is uh 84 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,560 this is a tax increase to cover the debt service 85 00:07:10,979 --> 00:07:16,680 does that answer your question um 86 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,100 not exactly but I guess I'll stay in my position so 87 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:23,539 we're thinking 88 00:07:33,539 --> 00:07:39,479 thank you anyone else just just for the record marriage I can 89 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:45,840 I can Net Zero again uh if you look at 90 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:50,280 section two of the you look at section two 91 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:54,300 um of the tax levy uh it says that the Cook County Clerk is hereby directed to 92 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:59,460 add the amount of Levy above equal to zero percent and of the set 93 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:03,960 amount to cover loss and the collecting of tax for all funds which is zero 94 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:09,180 percent shall remain in effect for all future tax levy ordinances unless 95 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:12,900 otherwise provided therein so I I don't want to I don't want to try to use 96 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,660 semantics it's zero percent of zero percent correct thank you thank you 97 00:08:14,099 --> 00:08:19,680 that's why I stated for the record in the beginning of this because I want to 98 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:24,479 make it into a clown show or because [Music] 99 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:29,520 this uh for the record you guys will be voting on a zero 100 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:31,860 related to anything dealing with the tax levy 101 00:08:30,419 --> 00:08:36,899 so if anybody else want to drive someone else to the record we can take the wrong 102 00:08:33,419 --> 00:08:40,740 and you're down camera yes go ahead okay so just 103 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:48,200 just prepare because we did get the orders today you're saying that there is 104 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,200 no increase or operating 105 00:08:48,380 --> 00:08:54,060 Incorporated correct I refer back to the Village of ministry 106 00:08:52,860 --> 00:08:58,220 because I think I just answered everyone's questions 107 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:58,220 driving 108 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:06,180 again the increase that we have is is covered in the dead service so you can't 109 00:09:03,959 --> 00:09:11,279 use it as a net amount I know people want to say and and so let me put it in 110 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:14,339 perspective so um 111 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:18,480 when you have a Debt Service your debt service and you have a Debt Service your 112 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:22,320 operating budget starts at whatever The Debt Service is and once The Debt 113 00:09:20,459 --> 00:09:26,880 Service is covered then you start at one or two or point one or point 114 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:32,399 you can't say that Hey listen this Debt Service uh doesn't exist prior to that 115 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:35,880 the tax is gonna the taxes are are going to be included with the debt service and 116 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:40,200 the debt service has already been voted on that's the 117 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:46,080 and so if it's if the debt service is you know 500 000 and you want to start 118 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:49,680 at one the only way for you to get to one is to go 500 000 and one now you're 119 00:09:48,779 --> 00:09:54,660 at one so I hope that explains the net right 120 00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:59,820 then that is starts at the net already starts at The Debt Service then whatever 121 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,120 does that mean that service then Levy and again everyone on this board 122 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:08,040 approved ten thousand nicer responds was issued 123 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:12,779 prior to the administration so that's where we're at a net that's why section 124 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:17,640 two says zero that's the taxes that are being Levy anything outside of that 125 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:21,980 you're what you're asking at what the question that you're asking is is not 126 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:30,360 um is not being phrased correctly in order for you to get an exact answer The 127 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Debt Service Plus whatever we have starts in one that's why it's called 128 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:41,940 Debt Service it's already okay so uh were we both on the budget we 129 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:46,860 had money allocated in a budget towards the bond like we were trying to bring 130 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:52,980 the bond down so even when you're saying that 131 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:59,459 that that is required to when they have whenever they voted on the 132 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:03,420 um bye you're saying that's money off of the bond 133 00:11:01,079 --> 00:11:06,480 correct so what they're saying is that this is our debt service this is our 134 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:10,440 bonds this is our general obligation bonds all right this is our homework 135 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:15,300 disposal bonds which are the two debt services that we had The Debt Service 136 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:19,560 Plus whatever we have starts at one so like let's say for whatever reason you 137 00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:22,920 had uh you wanted to Levy a million dollars in taxes if you already had a 138 00:11:21,420 --> 00:11:27,060 million dollars of debt service it would be two million dollars instead of the 139 00:11:25,019 --> 00:11:33,680 one million dollars that's where your net taxes are Levy because you already 140 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:33,680 have an obligation on the budget 141 00:11:33,899 --> 00:11:40,440 stated in our budget that we prepared down the bond so if we were actually 142 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:45,240 paying down about as stated in the budget 143 00:11:43,140 --> 00:11:47,700 um that that couldn't be as much as you say 144 00:11:45,959 --> 00:11:52,680 ing no that's that's not true because of that that service is over a period of 145 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:58,970 time and so if you look at the payment for this year the payment for this year 146 00:11:54,180 --> 00:12:03,420 is 169 450 depending [Music] 147 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,680 the previous year there was no Debt Service on the Homewood Bond similarly 148 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:11,160 there is Debt Service on the other previous bonds and you can also see the 149 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:19,620 gains and losses from that like perfect example for the 2004 uh for cgo bonds 150 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:27,300 right in 2021 there it was 1 million 344 1 344 750 where this year it's one 151 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:33,120 million 200 298 000 even right so that's again that 152 00:12:30,899 --> 00:12:41,240 shows that the debt is being paid now right same thing for the 2000 D the 2009 153 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:45,060 a to 2009 B 2009 C so you can see consistently that we're paying our bills 154 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:49,620 that we're paying down our bonds but the bonds in The Debt Service and 155 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,860 [Music] it's almost like we're having two 156 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:57,779 different conversations about the tax level uh which again 157 00:12:55,260 --> 00:13:03,959 um the phrase was thrown out there what is this net sum of zero there's no such 158 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:08,760 thing as a net sum of zero unless you take into consideration that the bond 159 00:13:05,820 --> 00:13:13,860 payments are part of that uh is is is outside of that particular equation if 160 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:18,180 you take that and you already factor in The Debt Service then that's how you get 161 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:23,279 to the zero sum which again section 162 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:27,079 section two of the tax Legacy I hope that answers your questions thank 163 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:27,079 you 164 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:33,540 thank you if I can be recognized one more time please sure Craig 165 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:38,100 so here's my discomfort I'm gonna go back to the original 166 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:42,779 analysis prepared by conspiracy and I said below is my analysis of tax levy 167 00:13:39,959 --> 00:13:46,560 for changes of 2022 tax level we are recommending a 4.9 increase to the 168 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:53,519 operating Levy we all said by a 2.09 percent 169 00:13:50,180 --> 00:13:58,740 totaling 2.77 increase to the overall lift that was that's what I'm saying a 170 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:05,279 net zero right now it sounds like the recommendation in the same document 171 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:12,120 he said the operating levies with total 11 million 134 799 with the 2.77 172 00:14:09,839 --> 00:14:18,000 increase and that's also the total contenders coordinates so 173 00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:22,800 I guess I'm trying to I'm not comfortable that this is a net 174 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:25,579 zero if the documents are saying it's a 2.77 175 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:34,160 we're putting more word into it when to me it appears that the increase 176 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,160 is 2.77 percent 177 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:42,120 I I think trustee house and I have a 178 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:47,040 [Music] I don't I understand what you're saying 179 00:14:44,459 --> 00:14:49,800 trusty house and I would just agree to disagree with what you're saying I see 180 00:14:48,779 --> 00:14:54,060 in the paper how I might have the same as you do I have 181 00:14:51,839 --> 00:15:00,300 for them to give from 20 uh from 2017 so that I'm able to 182 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:05,459 go over the financials and Outlook because I know these questions 183 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,399 are none of you asked I think that it's just 184 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:13,560 uh I think we just have a difference of opinion and I would also like to mention 185 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:21,300 that the the ordinance that we're doing was drawn up by conspiric and again in 186 00:15:17,339 --> 00:15:25,560 section two it clearly states that you know that the county clerk is hereby 187 00:15:23,459 --> 00:15:29,880 directed to add the ability to limit a sum equal to zero percent of the 188 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:34,560 set amount to cover the loss and collecting the tax at all funds which is 189 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:40,800 zero percent so remain in effect for all future tax related ordinances unless 190 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:47,339 otherwise provided therein and so hear you I think we just either we're 191 00:15:44,459 --> 00:15:50,399 crossing our lines in Communications or yeah we're just crossing our lines of 192 00:15:49,019 --> 00:15:54,839 communication but I appreciate I do appreciate the comment 193 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,920 I think we're all on agreement then that everybody would like a zero percent 194 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:05,850 from the record I think that everybody discuss I just don't want to come 195 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,240 through residence I think [Music] 196 00:16:07,079 --> 00:16:12,839 absent which we said that from John so if everybody's okay with that if you 197 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,820 want to take the vote as it relates to zero percent 198 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:16,820 um 199 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:25,620 when I go up we're not increasing anything in available for any Resident 200 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:30,240 any business owner just all at zero I don't know how clever I can say that but 201 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:37,040 in the zero zero zero that's what I am asking for a vote 202 00:16:32,339 --> 00:16:37,040 for they represent for tax collecting so 203 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:47,040 we have a motion by Trust trust second by trustee Belcher 204 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:52,880 trustee Brown no trusty house 205 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:52,880 trustee Norwood 206 00:16:53,579 --> 00:17:02,660 hi trusting homes 207 00:16:58,740 --> 00:17:02,660 Rusty Belcher present 208 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:08,760 motion path right 209 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:14,220 um there you have a residence as you can see some people are okay with you not 210 00:17:11,459 --> 00:17:16,980 getting increase some people will be no um 211 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:20,880 I want you to have in Christ but with that being said is on the record you can 212 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:25,020 always go check for minutes and I don't understand why people are afraid to vote 213 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:31,320 on a tax levy that comes up every single year and as administrator stated in the 214 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:37,760 prior years they did vote for an income is related to the tax list you can avoid 215 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:37,760 this we can get this 216 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:45,120 with that being said we have public comment anybody got any comments you 217 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,559 could come to the mic you have three minutes to address the book 218 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:56,039 all right moving on next is mayor's remarks I want to say Happy New Year to 219 00:17:54,000 --> 00:18:01,620 everybody I'm glad to see a lot of new faces and I want to see more people in 220 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:05,640 the New Year may you have a happy happy 20 and 23 and may that be your best 221 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:09,020 career make sure you love on each other 222 00:18:09,179 --> 00:18:16,380 people are losing loved ones left to right and it's okay just to say hey I'm 223 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:20,160 sorry I apologize to your family members because you never know if that would be 224 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:25,679 the day that you wake up and you couldn't say goodbye or I love you or 225 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:30,120 I'm sorry or anything like that so try to figure that out for the new year if 226 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:33,660 not before the new year um child should people 227 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:36,960 for the new year so that now um you'll be on good grades going into your new 228 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:41,280 year and you can take all the negative things out of your life and go into your 229 00:18:39,419 --> 00:18:45,600 who you're very very happy I do hope to see many of you from 230 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:50,720 upcoming events and if you want to get on any events um calendars please call 231 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:57,960 us 708-297-6859 again on number 232 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:03,620 708-297-6859 or email us some tea Junior at vo.org that is team 233 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:10,860 and my last name h-e-n-y-a-r-d 234 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,860 the village of darlington.org 235 00:19:12,059 --> 00:19:19,320 thank you again for just being a good residence and we look forward to serving 236 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:24,020 you thank you thank you thank you next on agenda is a journey is there a motion 237 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,020 to a job 238 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:31,220 [Music] um 239 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:35,880 trusty house um [Music] 240 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:40,220 trustee Holmes aye trustee Belcher Belgium aye 241 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:40,220 all right good night everybody