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I would like to call to order
[0:03] a special board meeting up and trustees
today is December 27 2022
[0:09] the time is 607 pm
please call the road it's a special one
[0:15] of you
good evening everyone happy holidays
[0:19] trustee Brown president
trustee house
[0:25] Verizon
[0:28] trustee homes here Christy Belcher here
we have a form
[0:35] thank you I'm next with everybody
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all right
[0:55] included um Chief you can lead us in
prayer
[1:03] all right good Lord thanks for this day
thank you for this awesome assembly of
[1:07] our elected officials Lord please let
this be prosperous let it be easy I Lord
[1:11] let us have a wonderful time and just
never praying good thanks everyone amen
[1:15] amen
next on agenda
[1:19] can I have any motion to accept
[1:24] 2022 property tax levy collected in 2023
recordings with the truth and
[1:31] intoxication law of Illinois
[1:35] promotion is there a second it's been
motion is second
[1:39] um any discussion and then before we get
into discussion for the record residents
[1:44] the tax levy has not been increased it's
been the same it was at zero no one has
[1:50] increased your property taxes that is
for the record of any discussion
[1:57] so I do understand I looked at the zero
percent but then also was looking at the
[2:03] recommendation and the um
ordinance from last year comparing it to
[2:07] this year
the numbers
[2:11] from my reading I would do not indicate
a zero percent increase Additionally the
[2:15] recommendation there from the spirit
showed a net 2.77 increase so if it is
[2:21] at zero percent
I guess I would ask for somebody to give
[2:24] you some clarity on wow
[2:31] 10 million 605 069 dollars
this year's ordinance is requesting that
[2:37] we let the 11 million 130
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[2:43] increase of
[2:47] the first operating levels that
increased
[2:53] and overall the next difference was 2.77
so if somebody can give you Clarity on
[2:58] that
yes so I'm gonna turn it over to the
[3:02] finance director you know so Village
administrator
[3:05] um but for the record resident just so
you know how this goes uh we have
[3:09] conspirants that's how our County what
they do is they go and they find out
[3:13] what we're struggling that in the
village of thought and they give their
[3:16] synopsis to the Board of Trustees and
myself they tell us what we're stronger
[3:21] or we can we'll be to increase or
so just like the past four meeting we
[3:26] gave this Board of Trustees uh breakdown
of what the accountant recommendations
[3:30] were but it's up to us as a body to
choose whether we want to increase it or
[3:34] decrease
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[3:36] so with that being said I just want that
for the record work for word Clerk and I
[3:41] want to give the floor to uh Keith and
tanjanique
[3:47] uh thank you mayor okay so the increase
that we have technically is correct uh
[3:54] uh trustee house uh the 4.99 which is
the
[3:59] Levy but the levy is
free space on
[4:08] on debt that we have and so the debts
increase over obviously we have an
[4:13] increase for the bonds the 2009 series
buys as well as the Homewood Disposal
[4:18] bonds uh each one of those the Homewood
Disposal bond is one
[4:24] that's carried over over the past two
years so that's 20 20
[4:27] and 2022.
um I will say that the increase from the
[4:32] Homewood Bond uh all all of the trustees
voted on
[4:37] 5th
everybody voted for that so that
[4:40] increases built-in
uh to the increase as well as the
[4:44] increased the fire attention and
so those two increases uh along with the
[4:51] homeless disposal bond is the reason why
you have the net 4.99
[4:55] which is technically right below the the
amount that you would have to have a
[5:01] referendum for but again that's that
student inflation and not necessarily to
[5:06] increase the property taxes
or the outbreak blood
[5:13] pressure so just uh Clarity the
recommendation is a net increase in
[5:19] taxes and
well it would have been a net increase
[5:23] in taxes um and just just to give you
some some sort of history of it last
[5:27] year you guys did have a net increase in
taxes of 2.61 to 2.61 again took care of
[5:33] the uh the increase in the police bench
and the fire pension as well as the
[5:38] first time the first actual bond issue
on the home of disposal Bond prior to
[5:44] that you guys didn't have anything and I
might
[5:48] to put some context right
here you guys didn't do an increase
[5:53] excuse me about you guys but there was
not an increase in 2018
[6:00] on the taxes Levy and then in 2018
um and everyone you know voted for it
[6:05] there was a 42.78 percent
uh tax increase and then
[6:11] and that was to make up for the last
seven years now there's then you had in
[6:16] 2019 there was zero percent uh and then
in 2021 there was a 0.01 20 excuse me 20
[6:23] 20 there was a point zero one percent
twenty twenty uh 2021 is when you had
[6:28] the 2.61 but again that was the first
year that the Homewood Disposal Bond was
[6:33] issued and again everyone voted for the
home with disposal bond that can retain
[6:36] back to 2009 series bonds and then you
increase
[6:42] so
so I mean you're going to have an
[6:46] increase you're going to have a tax
increase regardless of
[6:50] you know whatever whatever we thought we
were going to have a tax increase
[6:54] regardless but again it's under the
statutory rate and again it's zero
[6:59] percent uh is zero it's a zero percent
increase in the property tax this is uh
[7:04] this is a tax increase to cover the debt
service
[7:10] does that answer your question
um
[7:14] not exactly but I guess I'll stay in my
position so
[7:21] we're thinking
[7:33] thank you anyone else
just just for the record marriage I can
[7:37] I
can Net Zero again uh if you look at
[7:43] section two of the you look at section
two
[7:47] um of the tax levy uh it says that the
Cook County Clerk is hereby directed to
[7:51] add the amount of Levy above
equal to zero percent and of the set
[7:57] amount to cover loss and the collecting
of tax for all funds which is zero
[8:01] percent shall remain in effect for all
future tax levy ordinances unless
[8:05] otherwise provided therein so I I don't
want to I don't want to try to use
[8:10] semantics it's zero percent of zero
percent correct thank you thank you
[8:14] that's why I stated for the record in
the beginning of this because I want to
[8:17] make it into a clown show or because
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[8:20] this uh for the record you guys will be
voting on a zero
[8:26] related to anything dealing with the tax
levy
[8:30] so if anybody else want to drive someone
else to the record we can take the wrong
[8:33] and you're down camera yes go ahead okay
so just
[8:38] just prepare because we did get the
orders today you're saying that there is
[8:43] no increase or operating
[8:48] Incorporated correct
I refer back to the Village of ministry
[8:52] because I think I just answered
everyone's questions
[8:55] driving
[8:58] again the increase that we have is is
covered in the dead service so you can't
[9:03] use it as a net amount I know people
want to say and and so let me put it in
[9:08] perspective so
um
[9:12] when you have a Debt Service your debt
service and you have a Debt Service your
[9:16] operating budget starts at whatever The
Debt Service is and once The Debt
[9:20] Service is covered then you start at one
or two or point one or point
[9:24] you can't say that Hey listen this Debt
Service uh doesn't exist prior to that
[9:29] the tax is gonna the taxes are are going
to be included with the debt service and
[9:34] the debt service has already been voted
on that's the
[9:36] and so if it's if the debt service is
you know 500 000 and you want to start
[9:44] at one the only way for you to get to
one is to go 500 000 and one now you're
[9:48] at one
so I hope that explains the net right
[9:52] then that is starts at the net already
starts at The Debt Service then whatever
[9:57] does that mean that service then Levy
and again everyone on this board
[10:01] approved
ten thousand nicer responds was issued
[10:05] prior to the administration so that's
where we're at a net that's why section
[10:10] two says zero that's the taxes that are
being Levy anything outside of that
[10:14] you're what you're asking at what the
question that you're asking is is not
[10:22] um is not being phrased correctly in
order for you to get an exact answer The
[10:27] Debt Service Plus whatever we have
starts in one that's why it's called
[10:32] Debt Service it's already
okay so uh were we both on the budget we
[10:39] had money allocated in a budget towards
the bond like we were trying to bring
[10:43] the bond down so even when you're saying
that
[10:48] that that is required to when they have
whenever they voted on the
[10:55] um bye you're saying that's money off of
the bond
[11:01] correct so what they're saying is that
this is our debt service this is our
[11:04] bonds this is our general obligation
bonds all right this is our homework
[11:08] disposal bonds which are the two debt
services that we had The Debt Service
[11:12] Plus whatever we have starts at one so
like let's say for whatever reason you
[11:16] had uh you wanted to Levy a million
dollars in taxes if you already had a
[11:21] million dollars of debt service it would
be two million dollars instead of the
[11:25] one million dollars that's where your
net taxes are Levy because you already
[11:29] have an obligation on the budget
[11:33] stated in our budget that we prepared
down the bond so if we were actually
[11:39] paying down
about as stated in the budget
[11:43] um that that couldn't be as much as you
say
[11:45] ing no that's that's not true because of
that that service is over a period of
[11:49] time and so if you look at the payment
for this year the payment for this year
[11:54] is 169 450 depending
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[12:01] the previous year there was no Debt
Service on the Homewood Bond similarly
[12:06] there is Debt Service on the other
previous bonds and you can also see the
[12:09] gains and losses from that like perfect
example for the 2004 uh for cgo bonds
[12:14] right in 2021 there it was 1 million 344
1 344 750 where this year it's one
[12:24] million 200 298
000 even right so that's again that
[12:30] shows that the debt is being paid now
right same thing for the 2000 D the 2009
[12:36] a to 2009 B 2009 C so you can see
consistently that we're paying our bills
[12:43] that we're paying down our bonds but the
bonds in The Debt Service and
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it's almost like we're having two
[12:51] different conversations about the tax
level uh which again
[12:55] um the phrase was thrown out there what
is this net sum of zero there's no such
[13:00] thing as a net sum of zero unless you
take into consideration that the bond
[13:05] payments are part of that uh is is is
outside of that particular equation if
[13:11] you take that and you already factor in
The Debt Service then that's how you get
[13:15] to the zero sum which again
section
[13:19] section two of the tax Legacy
I hope that answers your questions thank
[13:24] you
[13:27] thank you if I can be recognized one
more time please sure Craig
[13:31] so here's my discomfort I'm gonna go
back to the original
[13:35] analysis prepared by conspiracy and I
said below is my analysis of tax levy
[13:39] for changes of 2022 tax level we are
recommending a 4.9 increase to the
[13:45] operating Levy
we all said by a 2.09 percent
[13:50] totaling 2.77 increase to the overall
lift that was that's what I'm saying a
[13:56] net zero right now it sounds like the
recommendation in the same document
[14:02] he said the operating levies with total
11 million 134 799 with the 2.77
[14:09] increase and that's also the total
contenders coordinates so
[14:15] I guess I'm trying to
I'm not comfortable that this is a net
[14:20] zero if the documents are saying it's a
2.77
[14:25] we're putting more word into it
when to me it appears that the increase
[14:30] is 2.77 percent
[14:36] I
I think trustee house and I have a
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I don't I understand what you're saying
[14:44] trusty house and I would just agree to
disagree with what you're saying I see
[14:48] in the paper how
I might have the same as you do I have
[14:51] for them to give
from 20 uh from 2017 so that I'm able to
[14:57] go over the financials and
Outlook because I know these questions
[15:02] are none of you asked I think that it's
just
[15:07] uh I think we just have a difference of
opinion and I would also like to mention
[15:10] that the the ordinance that we're doing
was drawn up by conspiric and again in
[15:17] section two it clearly states that you
know that the county clerk is hereby
[15:23] directed to add the ability to
limit a sum equal to zero percent of the
[15:27] set amount to cover the loss and
collecting the tax at all funds which is
[15:31] zero percent so remain in effect for all
future tax related ordinances unless
[15:36] otherwise provided therein and so
hear you I think we just either we're
[15:44] crossing our lines in Communications or
yeah we're just crossing our lines of
[15:49] communication but I appreciate I do
appreciate the comment
[15:52] I think we're all on agreement then that
everybody would like a zero percent
[15:59] from the record I think that everybody
discuss I just don't want to come
[16:03] through residence I think
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[16:07] absent which we said that from John
so if everybody's okay with that if you
[16:11] want to take the vote as it relates to
zero percent
[16:14] um
[16:17] when I go up we're not increasing
anything in available for any Resident
[16:22] any business owner just all at zero I
don't know how clever I can say that but
[16:27] in the zero zero
zero that's what I am asking for a vote
[16:32] for they represent for tax collecting so
[16:37] we have a motion by Trust
trust second by trustee Belcher
[16:43] trustee Brown no
trusty house
[16:49] trustee Norwood
[16:53] hi
trusting homes
[16:58] Rusty Belcher present
[17:03] motion path
right
[17:06] um there you have a residence as you can
see some people are okay with you not
[17:11] getting increase some people will be no
um
[17:14] I want you to have in Christ but with
that being said is on the record you can
[17:18] always go check for minutes and I don't
understand why people are afraid to vote
[17:22] on a tax levy that comes up every single
year and as administrator stated in the
[17:28] prior years they did vote for an income
is related to the tax list you can avoid
[17:34] this we can get this
[17:39] with that being said we have public
comment anybody got any comments you
[17:43] could come to the mic you have three
minutes to address the book
[17:49] all right moving on next is mayor's
remarks I want to say Happy New Year to
[17:54] everybody I'm glad to see a lot of new
faces and I want to see more people in
[17:59] the New Year may you have a happy happy
20 and 23 and may that be your best
[18:04] career
make sure you love on each other
[18:09] people are losing loved ones left to
right and it's okay just to say hey I'm
[18:13] sorry I apologize to your family members
because you never know if that would be
[18:18] the day that you wake up and you
couldn't say goodbye or I love you or
[18:22] I'm sorry or anything like that so try
to figure that out for the new year if
[18:27] not before the new year um child should
people
[18:30] for the new year so that now um you'll
be on good grades going into your new
[18:35] year and you can take all the negative
things out of your life and go into your
[18:39] who you're very very happy
I do hope to see many of you from
[18:43] upcoming events and if you want to get
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[19:12] thank you again for just being a good
residence and we look forward to serving
[19:17] you thank you thank you thank you next
on agenda is a journey is there a motion
[19:21] to a job
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um
[19:28] trusty house um
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[19:33] trustee Holmes aye trustee Belcher
Belgium aye
[19:37] all right good night everybody