1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,240 Board Chester Kelly, meeting to order. We'll make the introduction series in. We'll start with you, everybody, introduce yourself, please. This is where I joined our meetings in. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,560 I can see a one-environmental planner and a three-gram committee member. 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,560 He'll see if it's a committee member. 4 00:00:16,940 --> 00:00:18,320 Very losty, because they didn't have her. 5 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:21,080 I'm not sure where will the committee member choose to come? 6 00:00:22,060 --> 00:00:23,820 For outlawish, committee member. 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,100 I'm going to stand on the council to the committee. 8 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:27,220 Okay, great. 9 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:29,460 How could we start by changing the budget? 10 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:55,650 Okay, so just have a motion to amend the agenda, okay, 11 00:00:55,650 --> 00:01:01,430 Okay, hold the floor, the amendment will be that we'll go with the board of appeal and try to do the ABU. 12 00:01:01,830 --> 00:01:03,450 So we have a move to the executive. 13 00:01:04,550 --> 00:01:05,150 All in favor? 14 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:06,070 All right. 15 00:01:06,530 --> 00:01:07,110 Anyone opposed? 16 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:08,450 Okay. 17 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,570 So, do we have any applicants who will be speaking today? 18 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:20,420 Okay, could anybody who's going to be speaking, please stand so we can squarely. 19 00:01:21,420 --> 00:01:27,320 Do you swear or from a dental tube perjury, the statements you make, and that's where you 20 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,420 will give or the truth and nothing but truth. 21 00:01:29,660 --> 00:01:30,000 Thank you. 22 00:01:32,060 --> 00:01:32,540 Okay. 23 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:34,060 Let's go to the Board of Appeals. 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:34,820 Excuse me. 25 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:37,480 This is going to need to be our record. 26 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:44,050 We're reviewing Board of Appeals case number 28.29. 27 00:01:44,490 --> 00:01:45,730 She said it's a lot of that. 28 00:01:45,930 --> 00:01:46,150 Thank you. 29 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:47,330 Thank you. 30 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:55,610 The applicant is Newer Bockey 9 Methodist for the representative is Mr. Brent Jett with George 31 00:01:55,610 --> 00:02:03,330 Malibu, LLC. The property is located at 4350 Smithville, Mario Taylor Island, Maryland 21669. 32 00:02:03,650 --> 00:02:12,530 The tax number is 59. Parts with 125 and tax tax number is here at 4-109409. It's a 1.03 acre 33 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:17,950 properties in rural residential and the critical area limited development area as well as the 34 00:02:17,950 --> 00:02:18,410 floodplain. 35 00:02:18,670 --> 00:02:23,890 The applicant is requesting a critical area variance to permit construction of a flood mitigation 36 00:02:23,890 --> 00:02:26,490 burn than a hundred foot tide water buffer. 37 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:34,490 You should see attached the staff report and the reportions of it and the staff analysis. 38 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:40,290 The staff finds several circumstances associated with this top layer relevant to the planning 39 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:44,350 The same commission's recommendation, including existing development, the direction associated 40 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:49,670 development, existed prior to adoption in the county's category regulations, the location 41 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:54,110 of existing structure was therefore not established by the applicant in response to current 42 00:02:54,110 --> 00:02:55,030 buffer requirements. 43 00:02:55,910 --> 00:03:00,390 The extent of buffer and comfort, the property is substantially covered by 100 foot 44 00:03:00,390 --> 00:03:05,370 tire water buffer, significant limiting the area available for construction of flood protection 45 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:07,010 improvement outside of the buffer. 46 00:03:07,010 --> 00:03:10,770 of flooding conditions, the applicant has documented 47 00:03:10,770 --> 00:03:12,890 reoccurring flooding affecting the church property 48 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:14,590 and has submitted an engineer proposal 49 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:18,430 and to reduce those impacts alternative shoreline 50 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:18,850 protection. 51 00:03:19,230 --> 00:03:21,630 The property does not directly from open water 52 00:03:21,630 --> 00:03:24,430 or high to wetlands as a result of staff has indicated 53 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:27,270 that the project does not qualify as a conventional shore 54 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:29,910 erosion control project under provisions 55 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:32,030 otherwise applicable to such improvements. 56 00:03:34,860 --> 00:03:36,120 Environmental impacts. 57 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,420 Although the project is intended to protect an existing structure, it includes a native 58 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:44,560 vegetation that goes away with all indisterments from an environment sensitive area. 59 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:51,140 The plant's identify permanent impacts to both the non-sidle wetland buffer and non-sidle 60 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:54,080 wetland potential oxide flooding. 61 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,580 It's not for a dissidentifying and important technical concern regarding whether construction 62 00:03:58,580 --> 00:04:02,900 of the firm could trap flood water on the property or redirect flood water onto adjoining 63 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:03,360 properties. 64 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,000 because the proposal involves an engineer flood production structures that 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,240 recommends that the applicant's engineer provides sufficient documentation 66 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,880 demonstrating that the firm will not material increase flooding on neighboring 67 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,060 properties or create an unreasonable accounting condition if there's a 68 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:26,340 popular position. Minimization of the facts, applicants should demonstrate that 69 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:30,300 reasonable alternatives have been evaluated and that the proposed design 70 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:34,120 I represent some of their own disturbance necessary to provide the intended blood 71 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,920 protection and mitigation. 72 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,480 Any disturbance to the clinical area buffer should be subject to the proof of management 73 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,780 plan in all applicable mitigation requirements. 74 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:49,340 Native education should be used for the required establishment or mitigation plantings. 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,740 So staff findings, based upon the information present we contain in the records, staff 76 00:04:55,740 --> 00:05:00,460 and the property contains a wall established institutional use and structure 77 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:04,820 creating the county critical area regulations. The property is substantially 78 00:05:04,820 --> 00:05:09,220 constrained by the 100-foot critical area buffer in adjacent environmental 79 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:13,620 futures. The applicant has documented an existing flooding problem affecting 80 00:05:13,620 --> 00:05:18,640 the property. The proposed burn has been prepared as an engineer flood mitigation 81 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,740 measure rather than an expansion of the existing church use. The project will 82 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:24,700 number of the less-resolved indisterments within the 83 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:27,620 critical area buffer and impacts not high-well 84 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:28,440 maintain their buffer. 85 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,980 And the appropriate engineering 86 00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:34,660 documentation should demonstrate that the 87 00:05:34,660 --> 00:05:37,280 proponents burn while not materially direct blood 88 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,820 waters to onto neighboring properties or create unreasonable 89 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:42,420 hazard from trap water. 90 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:45,860 That should demonstrate that the proponents 91 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:48,600 location and design minimized disturbance to the 92 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,720 critical area buffer in well and areas to the 93 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,840 and approval should remain subject to the critical wear 94 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:57,240 and mitigation, but for management plan requirements 95 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,780 and all other state, federal, and local permits. 96 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,080 You know, so there's that information here. 97 00:06:10,180 --> 00:06:13,240 So, a staff recommendation that recommends 98 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,680 that planning commission for a favorable recommendation 99 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,640 with conditions to the Dorchester County Board of Appeals 100 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,860 for our in-work field escape number 2829. 101 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,700 Staff's recommendation is based on a unique physical 102 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:27,440 constraint to the property that praises the location 103 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,040 in the church, documented flooding concerns, 104 00:06:30,540 --> 00:06:32,200 and the applicants use of an engineer 105 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,320 flood mitigation design. 106 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:35,200 That person is favorable. 107 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:37,100 Recommendation be conditioned upon 108 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,560 one final engineering documentation, 109 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:43,080 dimensioning the deferral and not materially increased flooding. 110 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,520 We're going to direct flood waters 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,320 onto the joint properties to a demonstration 112 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,080 that proposes on minimizes, 113 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:50,680 distributed to the crew barrier buffer, 114 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,300 and on how to wetland areas to extend practical approval 115 00:06:55,300 --> 00:07:02,520 of the required delivery and management plan and installation of all requirement and 116 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,500 aviation plan things, receipt of all requirement material, our Maryland Department of Environment 117 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:12,940 Cruebles for impacts, not title wetlands and wetland buffers, compliance with the plans 118 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:18,840 presented to and considered by the planning commission, work fields, except for modifications 119 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,500 required by reviewing agencies, and compliance with all other fabricable federal, state 120 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:25,480 and county requirements. 121 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:30,010 We didn't receive comments back to the 122 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:32,970 appropriate area. It's just a brief email from Mr. John 123 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:36,050 Copeland. He says, our office is in emergency to develop 124 00:07:36,050 --> 00:07:38,770 reference variants. In order to grant this variant, the 125 00:07:38,770 --> 00:07:41,690 Board of Appeals must find a request meets each and every one of 126 00:07:41,690 --> 00:07:44,770 the variant standards, including the standard of unwarranted 127 00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:47,470 hardship. Should the Board of Appeals find this request meet 128 00:07:47,470 --> 00:07:49,790 the standards appropriate mitigation is specified. 129 00:07:55,870 --> 00:07:56,370 Income 130 00:07:56,370 --> 00:08:01,350 We know that the House can't willing to ensure that this request is here to the county's full plan provisions. 131 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:06,150 Thank you for the opportunity to come and provide a copy of the other board of the bill's decision within 10 days. 132 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:10,300 Okay, that's really all right. 133 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:10,700 Okay. 134 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,800 We hear from the applicant if you get your full name in the address. 135 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Uh, bright jet. 136 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:20,260 The microphone's not working today. 137 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:20,900 Okay. 138 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,740 I'll try to speak as well as again. 139 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:26,880 Frank Jet with George Miles of New York 206, West Main Street, South Bay in Maryland. 140 00:08:29,780 --> 00:08:34,220 The site, it was up on the cricket team with me. 141 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:41,260 Long and skinny, the 100-foot or extended critical area buffer actually encompasses all the property. 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,840 And as you can imagine from the county road back to the open water, 143 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:54,880 slopes down when the high pides come in, they're just coming up in the dating 144 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:01,020 those church. The original church that's there, not that annex, is over a hundred 145 00:09:01,020 --> 00:09:08,760 years old congregations. I think about 150 years old. Part of the old underground 146 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,040 railroads, that works. 147 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,920 They've tried for a decade to try to get some flood 148 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:25,120 mitigation techniques or whatever down here and just haven't been able to gain a 149 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:32,140 whole lot of traction. It's just kind of followed by the wayside. We worked with 150 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:41,680 Native Hook watershed aligning. It's got a grant for DNR for a green solution so 151 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,080 So we came up with the burn there. 152 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,760 The flood plains elevation for the top of our burn is the elevation for us and we're 153 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:56,220 not going to be creating any, you know, above the flood plain airspace and they're blocking 154 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:57,060 any flow. 155 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Just trying to save the church from high tides and kin tides and Tuesdays, the wind blows 156 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,620 just right down there. 157 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,260 Any of the mitigation that's going to be required, we're building the burn, we're going to have to plan it. 158 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:15,800 We can plan that along the burn. 159 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:23,160 The congregation's static about having color and flowers and everything out there. 160 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:26,220 So I'll kind of promise him some purple and some yellow and white. 161 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:32,560 So we'll bake the mitigation needed into the plating of the burn, 162 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:36,200 which should satisfy the mitigation of the appropriateness. 163 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,080 It's just a matter of everything in the bits and pieces altogether. 164 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:49,340 We've gone through the wetlands of litigation, had the onsite of purple through MDE, 165 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,000 so that's already been done. 166 00:10:51,620 --> 00:10:53,120 We have a preliminary meeting with them. 167 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,240 We're under the 5,000 square foot threshold that we're allowed to disturb 168 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:07,440 have been the big 270-day permit. They're good with our disturbance, and they're good with 169 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:14,220 our buffer disturbance out there. We're able to fit it in behind the church. Between the church 170 00:11:14,220 --> 00:11:20,680 and the barn, again, the barn's only going to be in a 2.5, so it's not going to trap ones. 171 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,380 We're going to provide a little front strain in the back there. 172 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,840 Currently there's no downstaff on the church. 173 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:37,860 We're providing them as part of this project, the water to the front ditch, which will then 174 00:11:37,860 --> 00:11:41,780 get to the tail gut ditch that kind of buys that property. 175 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:46,340 So that'll be some stormwater redirection. 176 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,400 I'm just trying to do the best we can for them and save that church for a few more years. 177 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:58,380 Did you see the six recommendations conditions? 178 00:11:58,660 --> 00:11:58,840 I did. 179 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:05,680 And can you address those or will they all be hammered into our file? 180 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:13,220 As far as engineering documentation that will recruit flooding, we're not connecting it. 181 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:21,160 it's not going to be a mile-long burn or anything, it's just protecting the church itself. 182 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,780 I should say this out loud, but it's going to be open-ended on the one end, 183 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:33,140 because we can't, I can't go further down because the grave sites, I can't remember them 184 00:12:33,140 --> 00:12:39,740 with the apartment at this time. Maybe in the future we can get something else in there, 185 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:44,120 But we needed to save the church as it was right now. 186 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,760 There's money we had and it's in our dreams that we could do something. 187 00:12:51,060 --> 00:12:54,720 We're not going to buff the field of flood elevation. 188 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,920 So at that point, we're not going to walk in any water. 189 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:03,700 There's a minimum amount where 190 00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:12,020 We're 200 foot long berms, a long seven mile gophing up, where we're not going to 191 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:18,120 just place a large map. We're at the headquarters of the FGOT as well. We're not going to be 192 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,520 displacing large amounts of water there. 193 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,260 We've minimized the design as much as 194 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:33,280 possible. I think in the order of like three feet also foundation of the church with a 195 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:40,740 four to one slip trying to keep it as general as possible and get a top level in there, so it's not just a 196 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:49,760 TV, so it overhead, so that I can get width on there and get a long lower top if they need to, to get in between the 197 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,600 mitigation. 198 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:59,720 So I've been the disturbance as much as possible and still kept it under the $5,000 title. 199 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:08,220 The back corner, I think the wetlands, the non-fidel wetlands are about 8 feet from the foundation. 200 00:14:10,180 --> 00:14:17,840 So that's maybe you guys from your council, frag bodies, from the back corner of the building. 201 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:37,960 So the Curator of Upper Management plan will submit that once every day, we'll submit that once we get experience and know that we're going to go and we can submit the wetland permit once that's ready as well. 202 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,520 That's the next one that I'm going to put what I'm going to permit. 203 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,620 We've already met with them. 204 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,760 We've prepped the permit as ready to go. 205 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:54,360 We just need a very scribble to know that when we start the checks or the permit that they can be built. 206 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Compliance for the plans, for planning missions. 207 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:12,300 Fifthly meeting, D6, and then the last one is, double state county, that's kind of preventing the R&DV. Army court is not involved because we don't have any time. 208 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Okay. Do you have any questions? Jason, I've got a really a lot of opinions about this particular area. If you haven't been, pick a Sunday afternoon drive. I love our county from one inch. 209 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,840 But that particular road is, I think, the most beautiful road in Afghanistan. 210 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,720 The pitches are tied. 211 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:45,980 They have a great yard on the other end. 212 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:48,440 These people are trying to save the church. 213 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,260 I think that it's a very modest request. 214 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:51,500 was. 215 00:15:53,720 --> 00:16:00,640 They, the whole wet land thing in South End of the County, I've been very 216 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:09,420 forced to about. We're not the only state with flooded irrigation, mitigation 217 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:16,920 problems. Other states have levies. We have nothing and we're stopping the church 218 00:16:21,180 --> 00:16:26,280 We need to get behind them, help them, whatever way you can. 219 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:29,090 Thank you. 220 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:30,390 Thank you. 221 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:33,130 Any comments or questions? 222 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:35,690 Bill, will it work? 223 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:36,890 Yes. 224 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:41,790 We've done it in other places and it's going to help. 225 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:42,270 Yes. 226 00:16:44,290 --> 00:16:45,670 And it's a great solution. 227 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:53,690 Yeah, yeah, yeah, what will be alternatives to raise the building at this point? I'm not 228 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:57,770 Hey, I know expert house voters is very good. Yeah 229 00:16:59,350 --> 00:17:00,550 100-year-old church 230 00:17:01,150 --> 00:17:06,790 I'm not sure I want it. I take that chance. They still have some same class. Yeah, not a great answer 231 00:17:06,790 --> 00:17:08,490 Beautiful. Oh, it is 232 00:17:10,110 --> 00:17:15,170 Because the proximity of the gray is getting in there to do it and the women at work space 233 00:17:15,670 --> 00:17:20,210 and everything, they probably can find a way, 234 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:21,690 but probably think it's three years ago 235 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:23,950 from where many of them need just to do that. 236 00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:26,230 But if you better, could be higher? 237 00:17:29,530 --> 00:17:32,690 The access to it in the future is still problematic. 238 00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:35,390 Does the birds like digits or so play a role? 239 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:35,650 Yeah. 240 00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:37,210 And the porous majority? 241 00:17:37,970 --> 00:17:38,190 Yes. 242 00:17:38,370 --> 00:17:38,570 Yeah. 243 00:17:39,310 --> 00:17:39,510 Yeah. 244 00:17:41,210 --> 00:17:47,450 And the issue with the Southern Illinois is it's not a state level rise, it's good thinking. 245 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:51,610 So raising it will only be a temporary phase. 246 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,640 So any other comments? 247 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:01,120 Do you have any comments in this area? 248 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:06,800 I mean, we should probably at least address the current clarity criteria. 249 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,020 I think that my opinion is that this is a pretty clear case that it does meet the hardship. 250 00:18:12,020 --> 00:18:17,300 You know, if they don't do it, they're going to lose their church, but I think you should 251 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:21,220 address that at least in your deliberation and I think you should address whether it's 252 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:21,800 what they're doing. 253 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,500 There's a minimum amount necessary and the working tax on the environment. 254 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,020 If it helps you to have the applicant address those things you need to have. 255 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Right. 256 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:34,700 So the question would be, is it a hardship? 257 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:35,480 Yes. 258 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:43,160 And is this the minimum amount that you could do in order to save churches? 259 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:50,860 I would say yes because we could go higher, I'm just going to the theme of flood elevation. 260 00:18:51,980 --> 00:18:58,880 So in my opinion, we keep the theme of flood and other day floods off of the property. 261 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:06,220 They don't have the free board amount and we're working off the theme of that from 2016, 262 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:12,380 which were based on 2009, calculation which was mentioned. 263 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:14,880 As an engineer, if that's a pumpers nerd, 264 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,800 it's completely blown out now, especially on the south end 265 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,160 of the town. 266 00:19:19,260 --> 00:19:20,540 I can't believe this is a form. 267 00:19:21,380 --> 00:19:25,520 They had four of them Tuesday on the win right in the ring. 268 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,020 Just trying to keep them within. 269 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,800 So obviously, yes, they're doing the minimum. 270 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,680 Otherwise, we could build a retaining wall 271 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,820 around this site, put a pump on the backside 272 00:19:41,780 --> 00:19:49,860 that would be a excessive, so to me, that's having a green burn, that is planted, that 273 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:56,740 means mitigation requirements, it's, the technology is friendly and has some color to it 274 00:19:56,740 --> 00:19:59,580 and it brings forward a format out there. 275 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,760 And then Mr. Young, what was that cleared item? 276 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,300 We had hardship doing the minimum. 277 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,240 There's actually six. 278 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,300 I mean, I think, you know, one of the other ones is that they didn't actually create the 279 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:12,020 issue themselves. 280 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:14,080 I think that's probably pretty clear in this case. 281 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,820 I did want to go back to the awarded hardship because this is a case that's like a lot 282 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:25,440 of others that I've seen in the past, where this is an area that's completely within the 283 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,960 critical area. 284 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,440 And this is the structure that's existed within the critical area, long before the critical 285 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,340 area regulations. 286 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 And so that itself, it can be considered a hardship. 287 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,980 So I think that's something that you can't consider, and I'm just hoping that you can 288 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,100 deliberate on it. 289 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:45,140 It's not confirming a special privilege on these folks, and that's not your supposed 290 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:45,600 to consider. 291 00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:50,200 I hope to see that anything in this application that would suggest that, that it is. 292 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:57,220 And then one of the big ones is how it's going to interstate back to fish a lot of life in 293 00:20:57,220 --> 00:21:02,320 the environment in general, is it's just something that's supposed to be considered when you're 294 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,700 What do you like to speak to that? 295 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:13,460 I would say we would improve the environment out there, but we'll provide, you know, 296 00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:17,360 have a set of words and concepts and pollinators and wait. 297 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:25,680 There's nothing dwelling, living back there now, there have been maybe a fox and if we go 298 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,820 to burn, it will be possible. 299 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:35,980 area so they potentially the front-offs is basically going to 300 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:44,440 practically to the title cut now and we'll be removing had a minimum 5,000 301 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,980 square feet of fretmoves out there replacing it with native species so 302 00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:56,040 that's a plus on that side we won't be running stormwater directly overboard into 303 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,340 of water is going to be either going into the ground and infiltrating or run to the 304 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:08,860 red side ditch, which we're going to plant with some native species, which will clean 305 00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:14,420 it before it goes off site. We have a run of numbers on the airship reduction, but there's 306 00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:20,660 going to be some nutrient reduction. Plus it's important, as well. Not huge amounts, but 307 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,220 So I would say we're not negative with the impact you get at all. 308 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:30,460 The applicant also has written responses with the criteria. 309 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:36,460 So you as a board can also, in your deliberations, say that you've reviewed those written responses 310 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:38,440 that you've called for as an interior decision maker. 311 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,780 Now, has everybody seen those comments? 312 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:41,720 They were in the packet. 313 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:45,260 Okay. 314 00:22:45,420 --> 00:22:48,460 Does anyone have any questions for the applicant at this point? 315 00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:49,340 If 316 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,000 so, I would entertain a motion. 317 00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:02,400 I'll make a motion to re-approved it as a hardship, this historic church, and it's on 318 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,580 everything they could possibly do to get asked to liquidate. 319 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,080 So we're making a favorable recommendation, favorable recommendation. 320 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:10,940 Exactly. 321 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:12,040 I don't think so. 322 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Does that motion include the staff's recommendation conditions? 323 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,460 Yes, with the six conditions, the staff could do it. 324 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:27,010 So we have a motion and a second, okay, all in favor? 325 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:27,670 Aye. 326 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:28,950 Anyone opposed? 327 00:23:29,910 --> 00:23:30,870 Okay, best of luck. 328 00:23:31,170 --> 00:23:31,410 Thank you. 329 00:23:36,430 --> 00:23:38,730 Okay, now we're going to go underneath business 330 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:43,210 to the Accessories Law and Humanity draft legislation. 331 00:23:43,910 --> 00:23:48,670 Yes, we already just said earlier that the state has created an 332 00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:52,270 A.D.U. legislation that all jurisdictions have to adopt 333 00:23:52,270 --> 00:23:56,330 or have a password running at the program. 334 00:23:56,590 --> 00:24:00,990 We already do have that old old, but it's very minimal 335 00:24:00,990 --> 00:24:04,650 and does not need the minimum standards of what the state 336 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:07,210 and requirement are mandated on to or not. 337 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:14,870 So I went through and wrote the minimum standards 338 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:17,330 that we can have to inhale in. 339 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:19,990 And okay, without reading the draft legislation, 340 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:22,730 and I'm just going to head through and hit some points. 341 00:24:23,250 --> 00:24:28,350 The purpose of the amendment is to enact the work 55 of the door test of 342 00:24:28,350 --> 00:24:31,690 Amazon in order to establish regulations for EU views. 343 00:24:32,270 --> 00:24:35,830 The amendment is intended to bring the county to conformist 344 00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:39,330 the title for a subtitle five of the downed claims of the 345 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:42,890 preferred forest jurisdiction and the thing is any authority to 346 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:47,690 alter as EU on lands in a percentile family residential views. 347 00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:51,450 An APU is a secondary dwelling unit, okay, 348 00:24:51,570 --> 00:24:53,190 but the same lot of solar trot 349 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:55,690 of a primary single-family detached dwelling. 350 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:58,850 The APU remains an accessory use 351 00:24:58,850 --> 00:25:01,970 and they've not become a separate transport use. 352 00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:06,150 One APU may be established only a lot, 353 00:25:06,290 --> 00:25:09,170 continuing an awfully established single-family dwelling, 354 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:11,090 a detached dwelling, sorry. 355 00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:15,430 Where it can be located is within the existing 356 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:18,670 for a community with inmates that exist in principal dwelling, 357 00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:24,070 attached to those dwelling above or within an assessor's structure, 358 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:27,330 or in a detached assessor's structure. 359 00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:31,810 Basic requirements are, the principal residents must be 360 00:25:31,810 --> 00:25:35,490 legally established, single-family detached dwelling, 361 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:38,070 and the zoning bill in our criminal enforcement violations 362 00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:41,750 was prevent, issuance of a permit, and must be resolved. 363 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:46,790 All county, state, federal, and permits, and approval must be attained 364 00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:49,870 relationship to those who are coming. 365 00:25:50,370 --> 00:25:54,550 The ADU must remain sworn into the principle, well, and must remain. 366 00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:59,410 On the same law, it cannot be separately subdivided or convened, 367 00:25:59,410 --> 00:26:02,790 and it will not count for residential, dead-south calculations. 368 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,030 It must contain complete independent living facilities, 369 00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:13,290 size and dimensional requirements, it must be after accessory structure setbacks, must 370 00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:17,890 comply with accessory structure, height limitations, must comply with the maximum 371 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:23,950 lot coverage. The ABU may not exceed 75% of the gross floor area of the principal 372 00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:29,350 dwelling. Well, in subject requirements, property served by an individual 373 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:34,350 well or subject system required or restricted to the health department, approval before 374 00:26:34,350 --> 00:26:36,330 or zoning or building permit is issued. 375 00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:40,250 AEDU cannot be authorized if adequate, 376 00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:43,070 oversupply, or sewage dispensable, 377 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:45,110 disposal cannot be demonstrated. 378 00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:47,570 A particular of the AEDU itself 379 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:49,850 does not automatically constitute approval 380 00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:52,050 of the existing well or sector system. 381 00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:56,070 Must comply with floodplain regulations, 382 00:26:56,550 --> 00:26:58,230 test-beak-based, critical-head regulation, 383 00:26:58,730 --> 00:27:01,610 storm or management, forced conjugation, wetlands, 384 00:27:01,610 --> 00:27:05,630 in any other county state of federal environmental requirements. 385 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:12,470 Her lips before I can say less than a pain, which means that not only does 386 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:15,430 anybody know the electrical economy and the mechanical heart, 387 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:17,910 but the approval of any of those sustained evocations. 388 00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:21,930 The design of the A.U. should use building materials, 389 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:26,470 brute form, solid, and architectural features that are generally compatible 390 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:30,270 with the principles of gravity to the extent that it is more practical. 391 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:38,350 and existing carry-by relation that's remain intact unless specifically modified by the new A.U. 392 00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:38,710 section. 393 00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:44,130 How is existing requirements for assessor structures, permanence, likelihood, critical area, 394 00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:50,150 sub-division, so-and-what arrangement and any other regulations remain intact? 395 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:56,190 Do we have any questions? 396 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,160 Of course I do, and of course I have a question. 397 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:06,380 So, and I found, what does that do to guest houses? 398 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:09,060 Is this in addition to a guest house? 399 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,260 Because a lot of places you're allowed to have a guest house. 400 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,240 It would be one total, one tent house. 401 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,040 So if you already are allowed to have a guest house, so if you have a guest house that's 402 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,480 your ADU. 403 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,560 That's your ADU. 404 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:27,080 No minimum square footage required, it's on an ADU minimum that is prepared by the building 405 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,620 which is 862 square feet, okay. 406 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:33,100 So guest college, a lot of times we get in this thing 407 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,140 where we're not allowed to have the stove, 408 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,060 our refrigerator, remember? 409 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:39,940 Right, yes, but this is where part of you have it. 410 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,180 So we'd be better to have an ADU than that. 411 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Right, right, guest college. 412 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,900 But we can have two. 413 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,680 Right, and this is not, these are not tiny numbers. 414 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,100 Right, they still have to meet. 415 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:53,700 Because I probably were tiny homes, 416 00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:55,120 just because of the square footage. 417 00:28:55,780 --> 00:29:06,400 There's a minimum life safety standard for, you know, egress is required for someone to be able to exit a house in case of a fire. 418 00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:08,500 These tiny homes do not allow that. 419 00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:12,920 They're right. Everything's right. I'll talk more in a moment. I think that their life safety issue. 420 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:16,980 So these are still within minimum requirements in the building. 421 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:29,980 But this is going to take the place of the guest house requirements, or do you have to 422 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,040 say which one you're using? 423 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,620 You can say this is going to be a guest college, or why would you even have a guest college 424 00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:40,020 if you can have maybe you that's going to have a full kitchen. 425 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:40,560 Correct. 426 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,020 All right, so what about all father requirements? 427 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,980 I mean, as long as it's all under the state, so it's just the end of the end. 428 00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:51,520 Okay. 429 00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:55,000 And so you think the minimum is around 840 here? 430 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:56,280 Very sexy. 431 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,840 And you don't think there's any way that it can be. 432 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,600 I don't really know a lot about the cottage. I don't really know a lot about the cottage. 433 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:22,700 Probably the others kind of personally are getting better this morning, so I'd have them. I would just be curious if these two are compatible or theirs. 434 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:29,880 Yeah, the whole purpose of the accessory dwelling unit is if you don't already allow us that if that's not very allowed on the property 435 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:37,100 So to get the conjures already allowed on the property than you are to have it. It's just it's except we can't have a full kitchen or in our guest pod 436 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:44,160 It's right if we change it to maybe you and then you can't do an ADU. Yeah, so do we need to guess an accessory structure guest cottage? 437 00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:51,970 Do we need to what so do we still need the guest cottage and accessory structure part of the 438 00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:54,550 the code of this ABU is going to come in. 439 00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:57,930 So you're saying should we remove that? 440 00:30:58,150 --> 00:31:01,470 That just because, because you know how to come in and say, 441 00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:03,190 well, I want to get caught in an ABU. 442 00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:04,350 Well, there may be a reason to somebody 443 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:06,810 would want that and not the other that I can't anticipate. 444 00:31:06,850 --> 00:31:07,550 I don't know. 445 00:31:07,790 --> 00:31:09,170 I don't know what that would be, but. 446 00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:11,290 Because the code does allow them to have 447 00:31:11,710 --> 00:31:14,650 more minimum standards, 70, 80 years. 448 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:18,710 So someone may want to keep the gas cottage there 449 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,270 and not have to. 450 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:22,890 Just curious, they were backfliped at in hell. 451 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:29,130 That's an interesting thing, because it could be a situation where somebody wanted to put someone in the guest cottage without a full kitchen. 452 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:30,890 For safety or over-release. 453 00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:31,910 Right. 454 00:31:32,410 --> 00:31:33,590 That's an interesting thing. 455 00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:35,450 It's an interesting thing that should code this. 456 00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:37,790 Yeah, it was really where the cockage situation. 457 00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:41,030 So that's probably something I should look at before we go all the way forward. 458 00:31:41,130 --> 00:31:41,270 Yeah. 459 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:42,130 Yeah. 460 00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:43,450 Yeah. 461 00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:44,370 It doesn't even have that. 462 00:31:54,810 --> 00:32:11,370 So I can go check all that just to make sure I'm I'm certain that it because the definition 463 00:32:11,370 --> 00:32:18,530 and this is, I took the definition from the state legislation that it's won, but in 464 00:32:18,530 --> 00:32:19,790 addition to the primary. 465 00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:24,570 But what if you enter into your existing house, if you put a mother's, well, I guess you 466 00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:29,530 wouldn't call it in anything else, but then if you do that, can you not have a guest college? 467 00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:36,350 So if you hook it to your house, and you still have your, because I mean, there are places 468 00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:39,330 is that they thought, in law, plus they thought I guess. 469 00:32:39,410 --> 00:32:40,950 I don't think I know, was there anything to see 470 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:46,670 if the zoning only currently allows in law, 471 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:48,390 sweet in addition to a guest crime? 472 00:32:48,890 --> 00:32:51,690 I don't think there's any situation where it does allow it to. 473 00:32:55,210 --> 00:32:58,330 But yeah, I think that's the only thing that I'm hearing. 474 00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:00,530 Is there any way that they could be read that somebody 475 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:01,930 would come look at the ordinance and say, 476 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:04,470 you know what, I don't know how to have a bull on my property. 477 00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:07,210 I think we need to make sure that the government can't read it though. 478 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:11,990 I think that we should, and I still have time to, then, why can't we want faith? 479 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:17,470 I just want to make sure we're in place with the law, so if that's what it allows, 480 00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:21,730 and it affords people more, I mean, the options for the property? 481 00:33:22,010 --> 00:33:28,230 Yeah, and if the thing is to get more housing, then why would you have faith in A.D.U. and a guest college? 482 00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:32,090 I only have two concerns, and I was just in compliance with the NANDE, 483 00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:35,930 And then that way the safety of things are really chucked off. 484 00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:39,750 You still can have to meet all that stuff, 485 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:43,610 but why wouldn't we want to have more? 486 00:33:44,350 --> 00:33:45,990 A lot of ways they hate to use, 487 00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:48,110 like with other zoning requirements, 488 00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:49,770 that's sort of the old point of this. 489 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:52,350 Right, but I don't want to cut us off and say, 490 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:54,950 okay, well now we got to hate you and we can't have a guest house, 491 00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:55,950 because maybe we won't vote. 492 00:33:56,430 --> 00:33:58,930 It's a really important legal question, I think. 493 00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:01,270 What I found very interesting was that 494 00:34:01,270 --> 00:34:07,050 the ADU which you normally think of as being exterior or small and help because this came 495 00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:11,710 up at the city last night too they actually showed photos of that if you notice it can 496 00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:15,590 be within the principal dwelling they showed it could be on the third floor it could be in 497 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:20,810 the basement it could be attached it could be they showed all these scenarios of what which 498 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:26,470 is a much broader it is so in the county out there is a you know we make it be a separate 499 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:32,470 it would have its own entrance and it's not interconnected, but it does because it makes 500 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:34,950 it multifamily and says single family all matters. 501 00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:37,190 I'm doing it. 502 00:34:37,390 --> 00:34:37,590 Yeah. 503 00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:39,610 It actually allows on folk. 504 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:44,850 Well, and that's just what Lynch said that it's complex with his own code because it does. 505 00:34:45,090 --> 00:34:49,390 It does make it a multi, you know, but this is an override, right? 506 00:34:49,630 --> 00:34:50,730 I mean, this is like critical area. 507 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:52,190 This is going to override. 508 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:56,990 I have to speak to the state about the appropriate regulations they have had. 509 00:34:57,210 --> 00:35:03,330 They don't call it outright any language but they've had that in their resource conservation area code for some time. 510 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:07,930 It is a little more limited and for my conversations with them they say word is a state code. 511 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:11,810 It is more restrictive than it is allowed to be because the state not local. 512 00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:14,510 So they limit it there to 900 square foot total. 513 00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:20,090 I'll ask thee within a heart foot of the primary and then ask thee on the same well-incepted. 514 00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:25,710 So I think the primary restriction criteria to this is that 900-square foot requirement 515 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:28,610 and where this one is 75% of the primary. 516 00:35:30,090 --> 00:35:35,650 But the ADE could probably get you a guest thought as you could aware where one wasn't allowed. 517 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:37,910 Yeah, even though a guest thought is in the group area. 518 00:35:38,990 --> 00:35:42,190 Yeah, but you see what I'm saying, like this gives you even more. 519 00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:44,890 Yeah, you were all, you've been up. 520 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:47,330 So our, technically, the query regulations 521 00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:49,210 have been a little more relaxed than our locals, 522 00:35:49,210 --> 00:35:51,290 I mean, before they have allowed the ADU, 523 00:35:51,490 --> 00:35:53,490 specifically in a resource conservation area, 524 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:55,350 not so much when they develop in an area 525 00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:58,930 because it does an impact your development, right? 526 00:35:59,110 --> 00:35:59,790 So that's a big difference. 527 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:02,970 You can have an ADU in an area that's 528 00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:04,630 limited to one dwelling for 20 acres. 529 00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:07,990 And it does an impact that he's still one pleasureing here. 530 00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:14,250 It's going to reach, I mean, it can change care to a neighborhood, you know, a lot. 531 00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:20,510 It's very, and I think there is going to be an issue going to help you work your good 532 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:20,850 things. 533 00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:27,450 And we're just going to say that it has to be in compliance with the Alport House to approve 534 00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:27,770 that. 535 00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:31,270 And what do you, what do you anticipate the issue to be? 536 00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:36,790 The size of the rail and subject is certain, so you're going to get to a six bedroom house 537 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:41,170 with your ADU, your suffix on the approved for three, they're not going to 538 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:45,430 get great at it. There's not been well-inceptics that accommodate more than four 539 00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:51,990 members and I think that if people want to move forward with this for a lot of 540 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:59,410 the homes that make the new well-inceptic upgrades and it would stop it from being able to do it. 541 00:36:59,810 --> 00:37:03,350 I mean it just shows the state is like you know ahead they're going to put this in 542 00:37:03,350 --> 00:37:05,570 in place when you really don't have the infrastructure 543 00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:08,990 behind it to be able to do this. 544 00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:10,030 Here, anyway. 545 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:13,110 I spoke to the health department probably two years ago 546 00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:15,550 in ADU language, which was just starting to be discussed 547 00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:17,670 on the state level and it's not the favorite. 548 00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:19,530 So I think it's really, really held up. 549 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:25,450 So what I'm gonna do with someone comes up with the ability 550 00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:29,530 to apply and then have them clearly come first, 551 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,470 because I hate for them to have to go through 552 00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:32,990 And then you're not necessarily going to get denied. 553 00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:35,730 Yeah, good, thank you. 554 00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:37,450 I don't think it's going to get 10 to 20. 555 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:42,550 How about, is an AD going to be something 556 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:45,690 in one of a whole barn if you go in and finish? 557 00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:49,070 It's a disaster structure, so you ask? 558 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:54,300 Well, you were asking about the man cave. 559 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,500 So that could actually become an AD. 560 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,060 Yes, but if you've done the whole farm, 561 00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:11,180 You know, they're in a school living, you know, not just a cat, you get to go back there and a football, and it's not like this, and so you're going to have like a kitchen, sleeping, standing, and all that. 562 00:38:14,090 --> 00:38:17,150 So where do we go from here with this language? 563 00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:27,610 I need either a favorable or a favorable recommendation for me to present it to council as it is written on 15. 564 00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:34,350 If you are in favor of it, it can be with the caveat that we will research the 565 00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:39,730 legality of the best college language, and we would make an adjustment to the language 566 00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:41,190 that we need to. 567 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:43,210 I think that's good. 568 00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:44,770 Certainly we have. 569 00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:51,350 And this would be a motion, including that best college one. 570 00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:07,990 We're going to check into the guest cottage language to make sure they don't conflict 571 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:11,350 or, like, everything we can work on if we need to. 572 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:13,890 Okay, so we have a motion in a second. 573 00:39:14,450 --> 00:39:15,170 All in favor? 574 00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:16,250 All right. 575 00:39:16,690 --> 00:39:17,310 Any one of those? 576 00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:19,410 Thank you. 577 00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:24,150 Okay, so we've had our commission member comments earlier. 578 00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:28,270 Do we have any additional comments from our directors? 579 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:30,690 I don't think we covered them up today. 580 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:34,010 Any other glass comments? 581 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:36,370 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 582 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:37,290 Thank you. 583 00:39:37,770 --> 00:39:38,250 Thank you. 584 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:43,770 All right, thank you very much.