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[0:00] Board Chester Kelly, meeting to order. We'll make the introduction series in. We'll start with you, everybody, introduce yourself, please. This is where I joined our meetings in.
[0:10] I can see a one-environmental planner and a three-gram committee member.
[0:15] He'll see if it's a committee member.
[0:16] Very losty, because they didn't have her.
[0:18] I'm not sure where will the committee member choose to come?
[0:22] For outlawish, committee member.
[0:24] I'm going to stand on the council to the committee.
[0:26] Okay, great.
[0:27] How could we start by changing the budget?
[0:48] Okay, so just have a motion to amend the agenda, okay,
[0:55] Okay, hold the floor, the amendment will be that we'll go with the board of appeal and try to do the ABU.
[1:01] So we have a move to the executive.
[1:04] All in favor?
[1:05] All right.
[1:06] Anyone opposed?
[1:08] Okay.
[1:10] So, do we have any applicants who will be speaking today?
[1:16] Okay, could anybody who's going to be speaking, please stand so we can squarely.
[1:21] Do you swear or from a dental tube perjury, the statements you make, and that's where you
[1:27] will give or the truth and nothing but truth.
[1:29] Thank you.
[1:32] Okay.
[1:32] Let's go to the Board of Appeals.
[1:34] Excuse me.
[1:35] This is going to need to be our record.
[1:39] We're reviewing Board of Appeals case number 28.29.
[1:44] She said it's a lot of that.
[1:45] Thank you.
[1:46] Thank you.
[1:49] The applicant is Newer Bockey 9 Methodist for the representative is Mr. Brent Jett with George
[1:55] Malibu, LLC. The property is located at 4350 Smithville, Mario Taylor Island, Maryland 21669.
[2:03] The tax number is 59. Parts with 125 and tax tax number is here at 4-109409. It's a 1.03 acre
[2:12] properties in rural residential and the critical area limited development area as well as the
[2:17] floodplain.
[2:18] The applicant is requesting a critical area variance to permit construction of a flood mitigation
[2:23] burn than a hundred foot tide water buffer.
[2:28] You should see attached the staff report and the reportions of it and the staff analysis.
[2:35] The staff finds several circumstances associated with this top layer relevant to the planning
[2:40] The same commission's recommendation, including existing development, the direction associated
[2:44] development, existed prior to adoption in the county's category regulations, the location
[2:49] of existing structure was therefore not established by the applicant in response to current
[2:54] buffer requirements.
[2:55] The extent of buffer and comfort, the property is substantially covered by 100 foot
[3:00] tire water buffer, significant limiting the area available for construction of flood protection
[3:05] improvement outside of the buffer.
[3:07] of flooding conditions, the applicant has documented
[3:10] reoccurring flooding affecting the church property
[3:12] and has submitted an engineer proposal
[3:14] and to reduce those impacts alternative shoreline
[3:18] protection.
[3:19] The property does not directly from open water
[3:21] or high to wetlands as a result of staff has indicated
[3:24] that the project does not qualify as a conventional shore
[3:27] erosion control project under provisions
[3:29] otherwise applicable to such improvements.
[3:34] Environmental impacts.
[3:36] Although the project is intended to protect an existing structure, it includes a native
[3:40] vegetation that goes away with all indisterments from an environment sensitive area.
[3:46] The plant's identify permanent impacts to both the non-sidle wetland buffer and non-sidle
[3:51] wetland potential oxide flooding.
[3:54] It's not for a dissidentifying and important technical concern regarding whether construction
[3:58] of the firm could trap flood water on the property or redirect flood water onto adjoining
[4:02] properties.
[4:03] because the proposal involves an engineer flood production structures that
[4:08] recommends that the applicant's engineer provides sufficient documentation
[4:11] demonstrating that the firm will not material increase flooding on neighboring
[4:15] properties or create an unreasonable accounting condition if there's a
[4:20] popular position. Minimization of the facts, applicants should demonstrate that
[4:26] reasonable alternatives have been evaluated and that the proposed design
[4:30] I represent some of their own disturbance necessary to provide the intended blood
[4:34] protection and mitigation.
[4:36] Any disturbance to the clinical area buffer should be subject to the proof of management
[4:40] plan in all applicable mitigation requirements.
[4:44] Native education should be used for the required establishment or mitigation plantings.
[4:50] So staff findings, based upon the information present we contain in the records, staff
[4:55] and the property contains a wall established institutional use and structure
[5:00] creating the county critical area regulations. The property is substantially
[5:04] constrained by the 100-foot critical area buffer in adjacent environmental
[5:09] futures. The applicant has documented an existing flooding problem affecting
[5:13] the property. The proposed burn has been prepared as an engineer flood mitigation
[5:18] measure rather than an expansion of the existing church use. The project will
[5:22] number of the less-resolved indisterments within the
[5:24] critical area buffer and impacts not high-well
[5:27] maintain their buffer.
[5:29] And the appropriate engineering
[5:31] documentation should demonstrate that the
[5:34] proponents burn while not materially direct blood
[5:37] waters to onto neighboring properties or create unreasonable
[5:40] hazard from trap water.
[5:43] That should demonstrate that the proponents
[5:45] location and design minimized disturbance to the
[5:48] critical area buffer in well and areas to the
[5:52] and approval should remain subject to the critical wear
[5:54] and mitigation, but for management plan requirements
[5:57] and all other state, federal, and local permits.
[6:04] You know, so there's that information here.
[6:10] So, a staff recommendation that recommends
[6:13] that planning commission for a favorable recommendation
[6:15] with conditions to the Dorchester County Board of Appeals
[6:19] for our in-work field escape number 2829.
[6:22] Staff's recommendation is based on a unique physical
[6:24] constraint to the property that praises the location
[6:27] in the church, documented flooding concerns,
[6:30] and the applicants use of an engineer
[6:32] flood mitigation design.
[6:34] That person is favorable.
[6:35] Recommendation be conditioned upon
[6:37] one final engineering documentation,
[6:40] dimensioning the deferral and not materially increased flooding.
[6:43] We're going to direct flood waters
[6:44] onto the joint properties to a demonstration
[6:47] that proposes on minimizes,
[6:49] distributed to the crew barrier buffer,
[6:51] and on how to wetland areas to extend practical approval
[6:55] of the required delivery and management plan and installation of all requirement and
[7:02] aviation plan things, receipt of all requirement material, our Maryland Department of Environment
[7:07] Cruebles for impacts, not title wetlands and wetland buffers, compliance with the plans
[7:12] presented to and considered by the planning commission, work fields, except for modifications
[7:18] required by reviewing agencies, and compliance with all other fabricable federal, state
[7:24] and county requirements.
[7:28] We didn't receive comments back to the
[7:30] appropriate area. It's just a brief email from Mr. John
[7:32] Copeland. He says, our office is in emergency to develop
[7:36] reference variants. In order to grant this variant, the
[7:38] Board of Appeals must find a request meets each and every one of
[7:41] the variant standards, including the standard of unwarranted
[7:44] hardship. Should the Board of Appeals find this request meet
[7:47] the standards appropriate mitigation is specified.
[7:55] Income
[7:56] We know that the House can't willing to ensure that this request is here to the county's full plan provisions.
[8:01] Thank you for the opportunity to come and provide a copy of the other board of the bill's decision within 10 days.
[8:09] Okay, that's really all right.
[8:10] Okay.
[8:11] We hear from the applicant if you get your full name in the address.
[8:15] Uh, bright jet.
[8:18] The microphone's not working today.
[8:20] Okay.
[8:21] I'll try to speak as well as again.
[8:22] Frank Jet with George Miles of New York 206, West Main Street, South Bay in Maryland.
[8:29] The site, it was up on the cricket team with me.
[8:34] Long and skinny, the 100-foot or extended critical area buffer actually encompasses all the property.
[8:42] And as you can imagine from the county road back to the open water,
[8:47] slopes down when the high pides come in, they're just coming up in the dating
[8:54] those church. The original church that's there, not that annex, is over a hundred
[9:01] years old congregations. I think about 150 years old. Part of the old underground
[9:08] railroads, that works.
[9:12] They've tried for a decade to try to get some flood
[9:16] mitigation techniques or whatever down here and just haven't been able to gain a
[9:25] whole lot of traction. It's just kind of followed by the wayside. We worked with
[9:32] Native Hook watershed aligning. It's got a grant for DNR for a green solution so
[9:41] So we came up with the burn there.
[9:43] The flood plains elevation for the top of our burn is the elevation for us and we're
[9:48] not going to be creating any, you know, above the flood plain airspace and they're blocking
[9:56] any flow.
[9:57] Just trying to save the church from high tides and kin tides and Tuesdays, the wind blows
[10:04] just right down there.
[10:08] Any of the mitigation that's going to be required, we're building the burn, we're going to have to plan it.
[10:13] We can plan that along the burn.
[10:16] The congregation's static about having color and flowers and everything out there.
[10:23] So I'll kind of promise him some purple and some yellow and white.
[10:26] So we'll bake the mitigation needed into the plating of the burn,
[10:32] which should satisfy the mitigation of the appropriateness.
[10:36] It's just a matter of everything in the bits and pieces altogether.
[10:41] We've gone through the wetlands of litigation, had the onsite of purple through MDE,
[10:49] so that's already been done.
[10:51] We have a preliminary meeting with them.
[10:53] We're under the 5,000 square foot threshold that we're allowed to disturb
[10:58] have been the big 270-day permit. They're good with our disturbance, and they're good with
[11:07] our buffer disturbance out there. We're able to fit it in behind the church. Between the church
[11:14] and the barn, again, the barn's only going to be in a 2.5, so it's not going to trap ones.
[11:22] We're going to provide a little front strain in the back there.
[11:27] Currently there's no downstaff on the church.
[11:31] We're providing them as part of this project, the water to the front ditch, which will then
[11:37] get to the tail gut ditch that kind of buys that property.
[11:42] So that'll be some stormwater redirection.
[11:48] I'm just trying to do the best we can for them and save that church for a few more years.
[11:54] Did you see the six recommendations conditions?
[11:58] I did.
[11:59] And can you address those or will they all be hammered into our file?
[12:06] As far as engineering documentation that will recruit flooding, we're not connecting it.
[12:13] it's not going to be a mile-long burn or anything, it's just protecting the church itself.
[12:23] I should say this out loud, but it's going to be open-ended on the one end,
[12:27] because we can't, I can't go further down because the grave sites, I can't remember them
[12:33] with the apartment at this time. Maybe in the future we can get something else in there,
[12:39] But we needed to save the church as it was right now.
[12:44] There's money we had and it's in our dreams that we could do something.
[12:51] We're not going to buff the field of flood elevation.
[12:56] So at that point, we're not going to walk in any water.
[13:01] There's a minimum amount where
[13:04] We're 200 foot long berms, a long seven mile gophing up, where we're not going to
[13:12] just place a large map. We're at the headquarters of the FGOT as well. We're not going to be
[13:18] displacing large amounts of water there.
[13:23] We've minimized the design as much as
[13:25] possible. I think in the order of like three feet also foundation of the church with a
[13:33] four to one slip trying to keep it as general as possible and get a top level in there, so it's not just a
[13:40] TV, so it overhead, so that I can get width on there and get a long lower top if they need to, to get in between the
[13:49] mitigation.
[13:52] So I've been the disturbance as much as possible and still kept it under the $5,000 title.
[14:02] The back corner, I think the wetlands, the non-fidel wetlands are about 8 feet from the foundation.
[14:10] So that's maybe you guys from your council, frag bodies, from the back corner of the building.
[14:17] So the Curator of Upper Management plan will submit that once every day, we'll submit that once we get experience and know that we're going to go and we can submit the wetland permit once that's ready as well.
[14:39] That's the next one that I'm going to put what I'm going to permit.
[14:44] We've already met with them.
[14:45] We've prepped the permit as ready to go.
[14:48] We just need a very scribble to know that when we start the checks or the permit that they can be built.
[14:56] Compliance for the plans, for planning missions.
[15:00] Fifthly meeting, D6, and then the last one is, double state county, that's kind of preventing the R&DV. Army court is not involved because we don't have any time.
[15:14] Okay. Do you have any questions? Jason, I've got a really a lot of opinions about this particular area. If you haven't been, pick a Sunday afternoon drive. I love our county from one inch.
[15:32] But that particular road is, I think, the most beautiful road in Afghanistan.
[15:39] The pitches are tied.
[15:43] They have a great yard on the other end.
[15:46] These people are trying to save the church.
[15:48] I think that it's a very modest request.
[15:51] was.
[15:53] They, the whole wet land thing in South End of the County, I've been very
[16:00] forced to about. We're not the only state with flooded irrigation, mitigation
[16:09] problems. Other states have levies. We have nothing and we're stopping the church
[16:21] We need to get behind them, help them, whatever way you can.
[16:28] Thank you.
[16:29] Thank you.
[16:31] Any comments or questions?
[16:34] Bill, will it work?
[16:36] Yes.
[16:39] We've done it in other places and it's going to help.
[16:42] Yes.
[16:44] And it's a great solution.
[16:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah, what will be alternatives to raise the building at this point? I'm not
[16:54] Hey, I know expert house voters is very good. Yeah
[16:59] 100-year-old church
[17:01] I'm not sure I want it. I take that chance. They still have some same class. Yeah, not a great answer
[17:06] Beautiful. Oh, it is
[17:10] Because the proximity of the gray is getting in there to do it and the women at work space
[17:15] and everything, they probably can find a way,
[17:20] but probably think it's three years ago
[17:21] from where many of them need just to do that.
[17:24] But if you better, could be higher?
[17:29] The access to it in the future is still problematic.
[17:33] Does the birds like digits or so play a role?
[17:35] Yeah.
[17:36] And the porous majority?
[17:37] Yes.
[17:38] Yeah.
[17:39] Yeah.
[17:41] And the issue with the Southern Illinois is it's not a state level rise, it's good thinking.
[17:48] So raising it will only be a temporary phase.
[17:55] So any other comments?
[17:59] Do you have any comments in this area?
[18:02] I mean, we should probably at least address the current clarity criteria.
[18:07] I think that my opinion is that this is a pretty clear case that it does meet the hardship.
[18:12] You know, if they don't do it, they're going to lose their church, but I think you should
[18:17] address that at least in your deliberation and I think you should address whether it's
[18:21] what they're doing.
[18:22] There's a minimum amount necessary and the working tax on the environment.
[18:28] If it helps you to have the applicant address those things you need to have.
[18:32] Right.
[18:32] So the question would be, is it a hardship?
[18:35] Yes.
[18:37] And is this the minimum amount that you could do in order to save churches?
[18:43] I would say yes because we could go higher, I'm just going to the theme of flood elevation.
[18:51] So in my opinion, we keep the theme of flood and other day floods off of the property.
[18:59] They don't have the free board amount and we're working off the theme of that from 2016,
[19:06] which were based on 2009, calculation which was mentioned.
[19:12] As an engineer, if that's a pumpers nerd,
[19:14] it's completely blown out now, especially on the south end
[19:18] of the town.
[19:19] I can't believe this is a form.
[19:21] They had four of them Tuesday on the win right in the ring.
[19:27] Just trying to keep them within.
[19:31] So obviously, yes, they're doing the minimum.
[19:33] Otherwise, we could build a retaining wall
[19:37] around this site, put a pump on the backside
[19:41] that would be a excessive, so to me, that's having a green burn, that is planted, that
[19:49] means mitigation requirements, it's, the technology is friendly and has some color to it
[19:56] and it brings forward a format out there.
[20:00] And then Mr. Young, what was that cleared item?
[20:03] We had hardship doing the minimum.
[20:06] There's actually six.
[20:07] I mean, I think, you know, one of the other ones is that they didn't actually create the
[20:11] issue themselves.
[20:12] I think that's probably pretty clear in this case.
[20:15] I did want to go back to the awarded hardship because this is a case that's like a lot
[20:20] of others that I've seen in the past, where this is an area that's completely within the
[20:25] critical area.
[20:25] And this is the structure that's existed within the critical area, long before the critical
[20:29] area regulations.
[20:31] And so that itself, it can be considered a hardship.
[20:34] So I think that's something that you can't consider, and I'm just hoping that you can
[20:37] deliberate on it.
[20:40] It's not confirming a special privilege on these folks, and that's not your supposed
[20:45] to consider.
[20:45] I hope to see that anything in this application that would suggest that, that it is.
[20:52] And then one of the big ones is how it's going to interstate back to fish a lot of life in
[20:57] the environment in general, is it's just something that's supposed to be considered when you're
[21:05] What do you like to speak to that?
[21:08] I would say we would improve the environment out there, but we'll provide, you know,
[21:14] have a set of words and concepts and pollinators and wait.
[21:18] There's nothing dwelling, living back there now, there have been maybe a fox and if we go
[21:25] to burn, it will be possible.
[21:27] area so they potentially the front-offs is basically going to
[21:35] practically to the title cut now and we'll be removing had a minimum 5,000
[21:44] square feet of fretmoves out there replacing it with native species so
[21:49] that's a plus on that side we won't be running stormwater directly overboard into
[21:56] of water is going to be either going into the ground and infiltrating or run to the
[22:02] red side ditch, which we're going to plant with some native species, which will clean
[22:08] it before it goes off site. We have a run of numbers on the airship reduction, but there's
[22:14] going to be some nutrient reduction. Plus it's important, as well. Not huge amounts, but
[22:23] So I would say we're not negative with the impact you get at all.
[22:27] The applicant also has written responses with the criteria.
[22:30] So you as a board can also, in your deliberations, say that you've reviewed those written responses
[22:36] that you've called for as an interior decision maker.
[22:39] Now, has everybody seen those comments?
[22:41] They were in the packet.
[22:44] Okay.
[22:45] Does anyone have any questions for the applicant at this point?
[22:48] If
[22:52] so, I would entertain a motion.
[22:55] I'll make a motion to re-approved it as a hardship, this historic church, and it's on
[23:02] everything they could possibly do to get asked to liquidate.
[23:06] So we're making a favorable recommendation, favorable recommendation.
[23:10] Exactly.
[23:11] I don't think so.
[23:12] Does that motion include the staff's recommendation conditions?
[23:16] Yes, with the six conditions, the staff could do it.
[23:20] So we have a motion and a second, okay, all in favor?
[23:27] Aye.
[23:28] Anyone opposed?
[23:29] Okay, best of luck.
[23:31] Thank you.
[23:36] Okay, now we're going to go underneath business
[23:38] to the Accessories Law and Humanity draft legislation.
[23:43] Yes, we already just said earlier that the state has created an
[23:48] A.D.U. legislation that all jurisdictions have to adopt
[23:52] or have a password running at the program.
[23:56] We already do have that old old, but it's very minimal
[24:00] and does not need the minimum standards of what the state
[24:04] and requirement are mandated on to or not.
[24:07] So I went through and wrote the minimum standards
[24:14] that we can have to inhale in.
[24:17] And okay, without reading the draft legislation,
[24:19] and I'm just going to head through and hit some points.
[24:23] The purpose of the amendment is to enact the work 55 of the door test of
[24:28] Amazon in order to establish regulations for EU views.
[24:32] The amendment is intended to bring the county to conformist
[24:35] the title for a subtitle five of the downed claims of the
[24:39] preferred forest jurisdiction and the thing is any authority to
[24:42] alter as EU on lands in a percentile family residential views.
[24:47] An APU is a secondary dwelling unit, okay,
[24:51] but the same lot of solar trot
[24:53] of a primary single-family detached dwelling.
[24:56] The APU remains an accessory use
[24:58] and they've not become a separate transport use.
[25:03] One APU may be established only a lot,
[25:06] continuing an awfully established single-family dwelling,
[25:09] a detached dwelling, sorry.
[25:12] Where it can be located is within the existing
[25:15] for a community with inmates that exist in principal dwelling,
[25:19] attached to those dwelling above or within an assessor's structure,
[25:24] or in a detached assessor's structure.
[25:28] Basic requirements are, the principal residents must be
[25:31] legally established, single-family detached dwelling,
[25:35] and the zoning bill in our criminal enforcement violations
[25:38] was prevent, issuance of a permit, and must be resolved.
[25:42] All county, state, federal, and permits, and approval must be attained
[25:47] relationship to those who are coming.
[25:50] The ADU must remain sworn into the principle, well, and must remain.
[25:55] On the same law, it cannot be separately subdivided or convened,
[25:59] and it will not count for residential, dead-south calculations.
[26:03] It must contain complete independent living facilities,
[26:07] size and dimensional requirements, it must be after accessory structure setbacks, must
[26:13] comply with accessory structure, height limitations, must comply with the maximum
[26:17] lot coverage. The ABU may not exceed 75% of the gross floor area of the principal
[26:23] dwelling. Well, in subject requirements, property served by an individual
[26:29] well or subject system required or restricted to the health department, approval before
[26:34] or zoning or building permit is issued.
[26:37] AEDU cannot be authorized if adequate,
[26:40] oversupply, or sewage dispensable,
[26:43] disposal cannot be demonstrated.
[26:46] A particular of the AEDU itself
[26:47] does not automatically constitute approval
[26:49] of the existing well or sector system.
[26:53] Must comply with floodplain regulations,
[26:56] test-beak-based, critical-head regulation,
[26:58] storm or management, forced conjugation, wetlands,
[27:01] in any other county state of federal environmental requirements.
[27:06] Her lips before I can say less than a pain, which means that not only does
[27:12] anybody know the electrical economy and the mechanical heart,
[27:15] but the approval of any of those sustained evocations.
[27:18] The design of the A.U. should use building materials,
[27:22] brute form, solid, and architectural features that are generally compatible
[27:26] with the principles of gravity to the extent that it is more practical.
[27:30] and existing carry-by relation that's remain intact unless specifically modified by the new A.U.
[27:38] section.
[27:39] How is existing requirements for assessor structures, permanence, likelihood, critical area,
[27:44] sub-division, so-and-what arrangement and any other regulations remain intact?
[27:53] Do we have any questions?
[27:59] Of course I do, and of course I have a question.
[28:03] So, and I found, what does that do to guest houses?
[28:07] Is this in addition to a guest house?
[28:09] Because a lot of places you're allowed to have a guest house.
[28:11] It would be one total, one tent house.
[28:14] So if you already are allowed to have a guest house, so if you have a guest house that's
[28:18] your ADU.
[28:19] That's your ADU.
[28:20] No minimum square footage required, it's on an ADU minimum that is prepared by the building
[28:27] which is 862 square feet, okay.
[28:31] So guest college, a lot of times we get in this thing
[28:33] where we're not allowed to have the stove,
[28:35] our refrigerator, remember?
[28:37] Right, yes, but this is where part of you have it.
[28:40] So we'd be better to have an ADU than that.
[28:42] Right, right, guest college.
[28:43] But we can have two.
[28:45] Right, and this is not, these are not tiny numbers.
[28:48] Right, they still have to meet.
[28:51] Because I probably were tiny homes,
[28:53] just because of the square footage.
[28:55] There's a minimum life safety standard for, you know, egress is required for someone to be able to exit a house in case of a fire.
[29:06] These tiny homes do not allow that.
[29:08] They're right. Everything's right. I'll talk more in a moment. I think that their life safety issue.
[29:13] So these are still within minimum requirements in the building.
[29:19] But this is going to take the place of the guest house requirements, or do you have to
[29:29] say which one you're using?
[29:32] You can say this is going to be a guest college, or why would you even have a guest college
[29:37] if you can have maybe you that's going to have a full kitchen.
[29:40] Correct.
[29:40] All right, so what about all father requirements?
[29:46] I mean, as long as it's all under the state, so it's just the end of the end.
[29:51] Okay.
[29:52] And so you think the minimum is around 840 here?
[29:55] Very sexy.
[29:56] And you don't think there's any way that it can be.
[30:11] I don't really know a lot about the cottage. I don't really know a lot about the cottage.
[30:15] Probably the others kind of personally are getting better this morning, so I'd have them. I would just be curious if these two are compatible or theirs.
[30:22] Yeah, the whole purpose of the accessory dwelling unit is if you don't already allow us that if that's not very allowed on the property
[30:29] So to get the conjures already allowed on the property than you are to have it. It's just it's except we can't have a full kitchen or in our guest pod
[30:37] It's right if we change it to maybe you and then you can't do an ADU. Yeah, so do we need to guess an accessory structure guest cottage?
[30:46] Do we need to what so do we still need the guest cottage and accessory structure part of the
[30:51] the code of this ABU is going to come in.
[30:56] So you're saying should we remove that?
[30:58] That just because, because you know how to come in and say,
[31:01] well, I want to get caught in an ABU.
[31:03] Well, there may be a reason to somebody
[31:04] would want that and not the other that I can't anticipate.
[31:06] I don't know.
[31:07] I don't know what that would be, but.
[31:09] Because the code does allow them to have
[31:11] more minimum standards, 70, 80 years.
[31:14] So someone may want to keep the gas cottage there
[31:18] and not have to.
[31:20] Just curious, they were backfliped at in hell.
[31:23] That's an interesting thing, because it could be a situation where somebody wanted to put someone in the guest cottage without a full kitchen.
[31:29] For safety or over-release.
[31:31] Right.
[31:32] That's an interesting thing.
[31:33] It's an interesting thing that should code this.
[31:35] Yeah, it was really where the cockage situation.
[31:38] So that's probably something I should look at before we go all the way forward.
[31:41] Yeah.
[31:41] Yeah.
[31:43] Yeah.
[31:43] It doesn't even have that.
[31:54] So I can go check all that just to make sure I'm I'm certain that it because the definition
[32:11] and this is, I took the definition from the state legislation that it's won, but in
[32:18] addition to the primary.
[32:20] But what if you enter into your existing house, if you put a mother's, well, I guess you
[32:24] wouldn't call it in anything else, but then if you do that, can you not have a guest college?
[32:30] So if you hook it to your house, and you still have your, because I mean, there are places
[32:36] is that they thought, in law, plus they thought I guess.
[32:39] I don't think I know, was there anything to see
[32:40] if the zoning only currently allows in law,
[32:46] sweet in addition to a guest crime?
[32:48] I don't think there's any situation where it does allow it to.
[32:55] But yeah, I think that's the only thing that I'm hearing.
[32:58] Is there any way that they could be read that somebody
[33:00] would come look at the ordinance and say,
[33:01] you know what, I don't know how to have a bull on my property.
[33:04] I think we need to make sure that the government can't read it though.
[33:07] I think that we should, and I still have time to, then, why can't we want faith?
[33:13] I just want to make sure we're in place with the law, so if that's what it allows,
[33:17] and it affords people more, I mean, the options for the property?
[33:22] Yeah, and if the thing is to get more housing, then why would you have faith in A.D.U. and a guest college?
[33:28] I only have two concerns, and I was just in compliance with the NANDE,
[33:32] And then that way the safety of things are really chucked off.
[33:37] You still can have to meet all that stuff,
[33:39] but why wouldn't we want to have more?
[33:44] A lot of ways they hate to use,
[33:46] like with other zoning requirements,
[33:48] that's sort of the old point of this.
[33:50] Right, but I don't want to cut us off and say,
[33:52] okay, well now we got to hate you and we can't have a guest house,
[33:55] because maybe we won't vote.
[33:56] It's a really important legal question, I think.
[33:59] What I found very interesting was that
[34:01] the ADU which you normally think of as being exterior or small and help because this came
[34:07] up at the city last night too they actually showed photos of that if you notice it can
[34:11] be within the principal dwelling they showed it could be on the third floor it could be in
[34:15] the basement it could be attached it could be they showed all these scenarios of what which
[34:20] is a much broader it is so in the county out there is a you know we make it be a separate
[34:26] it would have its own entrance and it's not interconnected, but it does because it makes
[34:32] it multifamily and says single family all matters.
[34:36] I'm doing it.
[34:37] Yeah.
[34:37] It actually allows on folk.
[34:40] Well, and that's just what Lynch said that it's complex with his own code because it does.
[34:45] It does make it a multi, you know, but this is an override, right?
[34:49] I mean, this is like critical area.
[34:50] This is going to override.
[34:52] I have to speak to the state about the appropriate regulations they have had.
[34:57] They don't call it outright any language but they've had that in their resource conservation area code for some time.
[35:03] It is a little more limited and for my conversations with them they say word is a state code.
[35:08] It is more restrictive than it is allowed to be because the state not local.
[35:12] So they limit it there to 900 square foot total.
[35:14] I'll ask thee within a heart foot of the primary and then ask thee on the same well-incepted.
[35:20] So I think the primary restriction criteria to this is that 900-square foot requirement
[35:25] and where this one is 75% of the primary.
[35:30] But the ADE could probably get you a guest thought as you could aware where one wasn't allowed.
[35:36] Yeah, even though a guest thought is in the group area.
[35:38] Yeah, but you see what I'm saying, like this gives you even more.
[35:43] Yeah, you were all, you've been up.
[35:45] So our, technically, the query regulations
[35:47] have been a little more relaxed than our locals,
[35:49] I mean, before they have allowed the ADU,
[35:51] specifically in a resource conservation area,
[35:53] not so much when they develop in an area
[35:56] because it does an impact your development, right?
[35:59] So that's a big difference.
[36:00] You can have an ADU in an area that's
[36:02] limited to one dwelling for 20 acres.
[36:05] And it does an impact that he's still one pleasureing here.
[36:10] It's going to reach, I mean, it can change care to a neighborhood, you know, a lot.
[36:14] It's very, and I think there is going to be an issue going to help you work your good
[36:20] things.
[36:22] And we're just going to say that it has to be in compliance with the Alport House to approve
[36:27] that.
[36:27] And what do you, what do you anticipate the issue to be?
[36:31] The size of the rail and subject is certain, so you're going to get to a six bedroom house
[36:36] with your ADU, your suffix on the approved for three, they're not going to
[36:41] get great at it. There's not been well-inceptics that accommodate more than four
[36:46] members and I think that if people want to move forward with this for a lot of
[36:51] the homes that make the new well-inceptic upgrades and it would stop it from being able to do it.
[36:59] I mean it just shows the state is like you know ahead they're going to put this in
[37:03] in place when you really don't have the infrastructure
[37:05] behind it to be able to do this.
[37:09] Here, anyway.
[37:10] I spoke to the health department probably two years ago
[37:13] in ADU language, which was just starting to be discussed
[37:15] on the state level and it's not the favorite.
[37:18] So I think it's really, really held up.
[37:22] So what I'm gonna do with someone comes up with the ability
[37:25] to apply and then have them clearly come first,
[37:29] because I hate for them to have to go through
[37:31] And then you're not necessarily going to get denied.
[37:34] Yeah, good, thank you.
[37:36] I don't think it's going to get 10 to 20.
[37:38] How about, is an AD going to be something
[37:42] in one of a whole barn if you go in and finish?
[37:47] It's a disaster structure, so you ask?
[37:51] Well, you were asking about the man cave.
[37:54] So that could actually become an AD.
[37:56] Yes, but if you've done the whole farm,
[37:59] You know, they're in a school living, you know, not just a cat, you get to go back there and a football, and it's not like this, and so you're going to have like a kitchen, sleeping, standing, and all that.
[38:14] So where do we go from here with this language?
[38:17] I need either a favorable or a favorable recommendation for me to present it to council as it is written on 15.
[38:28] If you are in favor of it, it can be with the caveat that we will research the
[38:34] legality of the best college language, and we would make an adjustment to the language
[38:39] that we need to.
[38:42] I think that's good.
[38:44] Certainly we have.
[38:45] And this would be a motion, including that best college one.
[38:57] We're going to check into the guest cottage language to make sure they don't conflict
[39:07] or, like, everything we can work on if we need to.
[39:12] Okay, so we have a motion in a second.
[39:14] All in favor?
[39:15] All right.
[39:16] Any one of those?
[39:18] Thank you.
[39:20] Okay, so we've had our commission member comments earlier.
[39:25] Do we have any additional comments from our directors?
[39:28] I don't think we covered them up today.
[39:32] Any other glass comments?
[39:34] Do we have a motion to adjourn?
[39:36] Thank you.
[39:37] Thank you.
[39:40] All right, thank you very much.