1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Thank you. [clears throat] 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:11,679 » It started here. Call the meeting to order. Is there any 3 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:15,759 additions to the >> Mr. Chair? There was one addition for 4 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:23,199 public works and engineering contract for bridge safety inspections. Uh we are 5 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:28,240 starting with resolution 2658. Today >> I make a motion to approve the uh 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:33,120 agenda. move second 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,480 car. Any other further discussion? The name, please. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,600 » Brad, >> yes. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,559 » We >> Yes. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,600 » Meer, >> yes. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,640 » Schmidt, >> yes. 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 » Helina, >> yes. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:48,239 » Motion carries. >> Okay. Looking for uh any additions or 14 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:56,600 corrections to the minutes. Chair make a motion to approve both sets 15 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:56,600 of minutes. Draft minutes are by 217. 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,799 Charlie, thanks. Jeff, any other discussion? The name, please. 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,920 » Wave, >> yes. 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,040 » Meer, >> yes. 19 00:01:06,479 --> 00:01:08,240 » Schmidt, >> yes. 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,119 » Helina, >> yes. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,200 » Rat, >> yes. 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:17,640 » Carrie, >> thank you. Troy, you are up first today. 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:30,200 » Morning. Morning. Feeling surrounded. [laughter] 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,200 you know it's like 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:41,079 » I have a few items this morning. Uh I'll start with the donations. 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:51,360 First donation is from Grand Township. It's in the amount of $1,000. 27 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:57,680 uh [clears throat] and to be designated to the dive team, 28 00:01:54,479 --> 00:02:03,200 the search and rescue dive team. So, I'd ask the board to accept that donation. 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,600 » I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2658,000 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:12,640 from the Grand Township. >> Second extender. 31 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:14,319 Any further discussion? My name, please. 32 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,440 » Schmidt, >> yes. 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,400 » Kina, >> yes. 34 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,520 » Rap. >> Yes. 35 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:19,040 » Wade. >> Yes. Meer. 36 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,840 » Yes. >> Motion carries. 37 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:27,959 All >> right. The second donation is in the 38 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:27,959 amount of $1,400. 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:38,800 It's from Roy and Conson Maiden Malt and it in memory of Michelle Brent. Now 40 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:47,120 Michelle was a county employee. She also worked for my office for years there. So 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:52,480 um from her parents um and they would like it designated 42 00:02:49,599 --> 00:03:00,319 their word safety vest. I assume that means a ballistic vest. 43 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:06,800 Ask board to accept that donation. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to 44 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:12,400 approve resolution 26-59 donation. 45 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:15,519 » I'll second that. Thanks, Charlie. The member discussion. 46 00:03:14,537 --> 00:03:16,720 [clears throat] >> Helina, 47 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:17,680 » yes. >> Ra, 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,800 » yes. >> Wade, 49 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:19,760 » yes. >> Meer, 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,040 » yes. >> Schmidt, 51 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:27,120 » yes. >> Motion carries. 52 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:30,120 » Thank you. Uh, next item is budget proposal. 53 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:43,840 I'll have the budget proposal plus I always have done the next 54 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:48,640 attachment I guess of increases and decreases. 55 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:54,239 So I this point I I've kind of open it up to 56 00:03:51,200 --> 00:04:00,640 questions. There are some you've had a chance to look at it. There 57 00:03:56,239 --> 00:04:07,599 were Axon is one of the larger increases 58 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:13,040 for our squat and bodywn cameras. But honestly, the 59 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:19,280 squat and bodywn cameras pay for themselves. just the fact that deputy's 60 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:23,759 encounters with the public are all recorded 61 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:29,040 and tells the truth of what happened at at a 62 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:36,160 scene. So they've certainly been beneficial, 63 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:42,560 but it is probably the baritudes increase. So Mr. 64 00:04:39,919 --> 00:04:47,600 Fair. So, Troy, um, does the county have any what they call block cameras like 65 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:53,120 the city does? We do not. We don't have access to the clock cameras. We can 66 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:58,800 request the city look at the clock cameras for us if we're looking for a 67 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:03,520 specific plate, but we actually don't have, 68 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:06,960 » you know, primary type access. Do you know that when they take 69 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:11,919 those pictures, are they taking pictures of the drivers and the people in the car 70 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:16,199 as well as still? >> Well, it's it's uh 71 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,720 you know, you're seeing an entire intersection. 72 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:27,840 Most are set up at high traffic areas and so you're getting a view of an 73 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:34,400 entire intersection. Um but it they are able to read license 74 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:41,680 plates. They've been very helpful uh with missing people, especially when 75 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:46,479 uh we recently had a the fe a female go missing. She was found 76 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:53,039 » up in Cass County. We were able to track some of her movement. 77 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:58,720 She had traveled quite a ways from home through the use of clock cameras 78 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:02,960 » in other jurisdictions. And so we knew she was up in the, you know, north of 79 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:09,759 here, >> up in the Cass County uh area. So we 80 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:16,639 were able to talk to sheriff's offices up in that area and ask them to put some 81 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:24,080 special effort into it. As it turns out, she was found by say civilians. Um, not 82 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:30,080 law enforcement, but law enforcement knew immediately what they were dealing 83 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:37,199 with because we had informed them that she may be up in that area. The clock 84 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:41,120 cameras are not being used for doing surveillance on people 85 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:45,759 » for citations. >> No, they're they're not locally using 86 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:54,400 them for citations. Um, and that isn't it not surveillance. 87 00:06:50,400 --> 00:07:00,639 The purpose is be able to track traffic, spot stolen vehicles, spot vehicles 88 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:05,599 registered to people with warrants. >> I I get it. It's just that people have 89 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:09,039 contacted me are having a hard time separating that surveillance versus 90 00:07:08,374 --> 00:07:13,599 [snorts] >> Well, I mean, drive down Broadway. I 91 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:18,000 know there's a camera on every business in Broadway. 92 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:24,800 » You're under constant surveillance. We're under surveillance in this room. 93 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:29,599 It's it. And I mean, yes. Am I do I feel strongly about it? 94 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:34,240 » Simply because I know everywhere I go, I'm under surveillance. Fleet Farm, they 95 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:39,520 have one of the best camera systems in town. Walmart, you name it. 96 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,880 » I I hear you. I hear you. So most cameras are good enough. They can see 97 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:47,199 the people driving them if they can get it zoomed in close. 98 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:54,000 » The camera system is good enough to be >> Yeah. on it. It's going to be 99 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:58,400 » Yeah, they've been very useful. Um and it's more than one missing person. I 100 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:02,639 mean, we a different report, different person. 101 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:07,759 We had no idea where that person was, but they appeared on the flash numerous 102 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:13,199 several times within the city of Alexandria. So, we knew that person was 103 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:19,599 in all likelihood in this area. And within a few hours of us contacting 104 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:26,479 different people because of locations, we that person actually contacted us and 105 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:34,959 told us they were not a missing person. So they had voluntarily gone missing. 106 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:39,919 So as far as flock cameras, no, we don't have any. I don't have any in the 107 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:43,719 budget, by the way, but I'm certainly not. 108 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:51,200 I'm not opposed to the use of them because I know that they're not used or 109 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:55,839 just surveilling people. There are people who believe they are, but it's 110 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:00,880 just not factual. There's also people who believe I have access to the flop 111 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:06,560 cameras and they're mine and they're they're not that they belong to the city 112 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:14,080 and we don't have primary access to them. But certainly we have requested 113 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:18,839 access them to access. Well, the press is here. They got it 114 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,839 straight now. 115 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:28,240 Do they care? It's just getting it out to the public. 116 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:34,240 » So, no, there's none in the budget. The cameras we utilize are body warn and 117 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:41,360 squad cameras. We've had squad cameras since uh late 1980s. 118 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:48,880 So, if somebody has an issue with them, they're I'm already 46 years late or 40 119 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:55,279 years too late. But and the body cameras are uh like I say, they're a very 120 00:09:52,560 --> 00:10:02,640 helpful tool, especially when it comes to complaints on deputies. 121 00:09:59,839 --> 00:10:06,959 » Yep. It might surprise you, but people don't always tell us truth 122 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,399 » and so the cameras tell the truth. 123 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:23,839 » All right. What else you got? uh budget-wise. I mean, 124 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:27,959 if you have any specific questions, I'm not sure, but 125 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:38,480 going to breeze through it. Medical care, that's an increase, but that's an 126 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:44,480 annual increase for the contracted medical care for the jail. 127 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:51,519 There's some that you've seen the list. I think there's lists of increases and 128 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:58,360 decreases and I can certainly answer questions regarding any of them. 129 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,360 So 130 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:08,720 any questions? You know I only question I got is like on the voting end of it uh 131 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:13,440 voting safety. Has there been any uh changes on that as far as uh any 132 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:18,800 problems >> as far as patrol on the lakes? 133 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:27,120 » Yeah. Um we haven't seen any dramatic changes. Lakes of course are busy in the 134 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:31,399 summertime and uh so yeah, haven't been anything notable. 135 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:40,120 All right. 136 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,120 » That's too easy. I mean that 137 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,959 you're supposed to stump the chunk here. >> Yeah. 138 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:54,320 » Um Yeah. Otherwise, I have nothing budget or salary request. Obviously, I'm 139 00:11:51,839 --> 00:12:00,000 retiring at the beginning of next year. So, if you want to increase my salary 140 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:03,600 for a couple days, you're welcome. But it would be a very short very short 141 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,800 salary. >> What is your last day? 142 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:13,440 » January what? What's your last day? >> You're talking about that. I think it's 143 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:17,040 January 4th. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 144 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:18,800 » We haven't figured it out. >> Monday. 145 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:25,600 » Okay. >> Yeah. 146 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:29,440 First Monday in 2027 January. >> Okay. 147 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,519 Coming soon. plan a retirement party on January 8th. 148 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 » Elvis Presley's birthday. >> There you go. 149 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,863 » Nobody sleeps. >> Get your hair dyed day. [laughter] 150 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:51,880 » Thanks. >> Thank you. 151 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,880 I'd like to call up Mary Ski to record. 152 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,399 » Good morning. >> Good morning. 153 00:12:56,183 --> 00:13:01,519 [clears throat] >> Few items today. The first item um I'm 154 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:06,240 required to present my yearly compliance report as a part of my budget 155 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:12,399 presentation and this states in 2025 the recorders office processed 8533 156 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:17,560 documents and we were 100% compliant with statutory turnaround time 157 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:25,480 submit that report. >> We need to act on that. 158 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:34,720 motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve the 159 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:39,279 compliance report for the recorder. Pimp. Any further discussion? The name, 160 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,399 please. >> Meer, 161 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,360 » yes. >> Schmidt, 162 00:13:40,959 --> 00:13:42,480 » yes. >> Scalina, 163 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,440 » yes. >> Brad, 164 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,279 » yes. >> Wade, 165 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:49,600 » yes. Motion carries. Okay. 166 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:54,959 » And then next for my budget report, my budget is largely stable, pretty much 167 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:59,360 exactly the same as last year. um vast majority of our increase is just from 168 00:13:56,959 --> 00:14:05,000 budgets. It is myself and I still have four uh deputy recorders as well in my 169 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 office. 170 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:16,560 the recorder technology fund and the land records modernization. Those are 171 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:22,920 special accounts that are set aside for special projects um as statute outlines 172 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:22,920 and those are all 173 00:14:22,959 --> 00:14:29,600 stable as well. I did budget for one indexing project I'm looking at for this 174 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:35,839 coming year. It takes some of our available real estate documents. um we 175 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:40,079 have images out there from 1973 through 1992 where the images are there 176 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,399 but it's not searchable by name and legal description and so that would be a 177 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:49,920 good use of those funds from the recorder technology fund and so I'm uh 178 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:55,600 working on gathering that together and put that in the budget as a proposed 179 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:59,600 cost for next year and land records modernization is stable that's what we 180 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:05,120 pay as re pictometry um and some GIS initiatives out 181 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Mr. Chair, that's just what you got tied in with the recorder equipment 182 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,800 replacement stuff. >> Yeah, recorder equipment replacement. 183 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Yep. Only increase. >> Right. And those two accounts, we 184 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:21,120 actually um kind of zero them out. They don't affect Olivia at all since 185 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,925 » So, yeah, that's really my only increase. 186 00:15:22,905 --> 00:15:24,925 [clears throat] 187 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:38,880 » All right. Any questions for Mary? Thank you. Looks good. Great question. 188 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:44,959 » Um and then my salary request, I am requesting a salary of $90,000. 189 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:50,639 Um my current salary is 86,000. I did submit um some comparable salaries 190 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:56,560 as well. The closest being like Pope County, they again eight years in 191 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:04,160 office. Um, the Pope County Recorder salary is currently 99,28 192 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:08,720 and Stevens County close by is 106,558. This is my 19th year with Douglas County 193 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:14,959 and I'm currently in my eighth year as county recorder. 194 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:19,160 I appreciate your consideration and >> thank you. Thanks. 195 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:28,880 » Yep. Next up, Chad Larson, County Attorney. 196 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:33,600 » Thank you, Mr. Chair. I uh I prepared budget proposals for three departments. 197 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:37,199 Uh the corer's office, the law library, as well as as the county attorney's 198 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:42,079 office. So, I'll start with the coroner's office. Uh which really should 199 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,600 be renamed the medical examiner's office because we haven't had a coroner in a 200 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:51,120 couple decades now. >> Yeah. Yes. Uh we continue to contract 201 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:56,320 with Midwest Medical Examiner's Office out of Anoka County for our autopsies as 202 00:16:54,399 --> 00:17:02,240 well as Lind and Anderson Funeral Homes for transportation to Anoka. Uh we pay a 203 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:07,280 flat fee for transportation for those services on an alternating basis between 204 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:12,720 those providers. Uh budgeting for the number of deaths 205 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:18,160 requiring postmortems is difficult to predict in any given year. In the first 206 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:22,480 five months of 2026, we spent just over 36,000. 207 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:26,880 So I budgeted 75,000 for the entirety of 2027 based upon 208 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:34,080 those numbers. That's that's the best guess I can provide. Um moving to the 209 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:38,799 law library. All counties are statutoily required to maintain a law library uh 210 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:44,640 for the use of of residents who wish to conduct their own legal research. Uh, as 211 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:49,360 more and more people are using AI in an attempt to conduct proay litigation, the 212 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:57,679 use of the law library has really gone down. We used to contract with 213 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:01,039 folks over at the tech school to sit for certain hours in the law library and 214 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:06,799 kind of direct people to the materials they needed, but it just wasn't getting 215 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:11,520 the traffic that would sustain the cost that that evolved. Um, and the law 216 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,200 library is really self- sustainable. It's funded by those who are convicted 217 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:19,280 of crimes here in Douglas County. Their sentence usually incur includes a fine, 218 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,919 a search charge, and then a law library fee. Occasionally, the judges will wave 219 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:28,720 the law library fee depending on infancy or things of that nature. Uh, the fund 220 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:32,720 balance carried over from year to year. I believe its current balance is 221 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:38,000 approximately 140,000 right now. Um, I'm on the law library 222 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:43,600 board with Commissioner Tina. uh the judges and the city attorney and we may 223 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:48,799 consider reducing the current li fee uh given given the current balance. Uh and 224 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:52,640 since we're losing commissioner Kina, we're going to have to recruit one of 225 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,000 you to enter the exciting world of law library. 226 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:02,799 Um can't wait. >> Yes, I've been using less and less. 227 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:08,880 Well, that mean we used to have subscriptions to books and 228 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:13,520 we we couldn't get rid of enough books. Um, so, you know, and people aren't 229 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,400 using the computer that we have in there. The copier is sitting in a locked 230 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,720 room right now. Nobody needed to use it. >> Nobody has a key. 231 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,919 » We do have [clears throat and laughter] a key. 232 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:28,400 Port administration does too. We have access to paper bleeder for those who 233 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,320 still use that. Um, finally, as to my budget, uh, there 234 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:37,039 really haven't been any dramatic changes, uh, to my budget aside from the 235 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:42,799 usual annual increases in subscription fees for case management software and 236 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:49,679 cloud storage. As Troy mentioned, um, we also use Axon, which is the body camera 237 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:55,120 recordings. So those get uploaded to the cloud and then we have u software that 238 00:19:52,880 --> 00:20:02,799 integrates our case management system with Axon and so we're talking hundreds 239 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:11,280 of thousands of hours of recorded data which takes up an enormous amount of of 240 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:16,720 cloud space for that. Um, so we have that to integrate those recordings and 241 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:23,200 and Axon fees as Troy mentioned keep increasing, but we don't really have an 242 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:27,200 alternate vendor that provides the same quality of product that we need and we 243 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:31,919 have to use and we're required to disclose to the defense as discovery all 244 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:38,159 of our recordings. U so so those fees continue to to 245 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:43,840 increase. Probably the most notable change in my budget is the absence of of 246 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Alamir's contribution, my salary in 2027 due to the conversion of the health 247 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:55,200 system to a a 501c3. So, I did not put that into my budget 248 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:59,760 for 2027, but that should come as no surprise to to this board. Um, we're 249 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:06,120 currently fully staffed at this time with seven attorneys, six legal 250 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:06,120 assistants, and one investigator. 251 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:12,400 So payroll continues to be my largest expense. The associated 252 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,320 non-discretionary related increases, healthcare costs, 253 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:22,240 things of that nature. I've also included a 10 $10,000 for 2027 254 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:27,039 to cover tax appeals in the event that we're 255 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:34,240 going to have to hire outside counsel. Uh we did hire recently a new attorney 256 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:41,039 um and she will be assigned to handle tax appeals very shortly. Right now I'm 257 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:46,080 continuing to uh to do that as I as I can. And finally to my salary request, 258 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:53,280 I'm not asking for anything above and beyond any percentage increase that the 259 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:56,080 docu employees may be granted. That's all I have. 260 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:00,400 » Mr. Sure. >> Yes. Tax attorney. Is that the one for 261 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,039 the dark stores with Stacy's group or No, 262 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,080 » that was one we used a few years ago. >> Yeah. 263 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:10,720 » Extremely expensive. We tried to make a point with that particular 264 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,280 » We tried to make it and it didn't work. >> It did not work. 265 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:17,280 » We just ended up spending a lot a lot of money and they just the next time. 266 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:21,360 » Not the same attorney. >> No. No. I know it's not the same person, 267 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:24,400 but this is what they're doing. That's is that what you're 268 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:27,280 » We have one case that we're currently doing that with. 269 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:33,600 » Okay. >> But it's not near to the dramatic level 270 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:40,120 that we did with with Flem. >> Yeah. Yeah. That was constant. 271 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,120 Thank you. 272 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:48,559 » Done. Chad. All done. Thank you. Anybody got any questions for Chad? 273 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:53,400 All right. Thank you. We'll move on to uh Vicky Doling, Auditor Church. 274 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,159 » Good morning. >> Good morning, 275 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:13,520 » Right Mr. Chair. I've got two items here. One is uh this one being 276 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:18,799 informational the pack uh with a couple couple meetings ago we had 277 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:22,320 divot prairie round which is a nonprofit historical reenactment organization. 278 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:28,799 They were going to they did host a 4day event July 30th 279 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:32,799 through August 2nd out on city township. They had applied originally for a 280 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,960 bonfire temporary liquor license but then ended up pulling that app because 281 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,880 they couldn't get like liability or it wasn't feasible for them to do so. So 282 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,400 they pulled the application. So just to make sure that makes it into the minutes 283 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:51,760 that that never got sent off to the state. So that is void. 284 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:56,159 » The application would never yeah until they did the insurance. 285 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:01,679 » Yeah. And going forward, you know, as you've noticed, I've brought often 286 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,440 brought for timely sake timeliness sake, efficiency sake to try to get these 287 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,679 applications into the state on time to give them time to react. Often times I 288 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:13,120 bring apps to you that that aren't like we're waiting for a county attorney or 289 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,720 sheriff or like liquor liability or all those things. I'm not going to from this 290 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:20,240 point on if the applicant doesn't have their liqu liability proof that to me 291 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,400 that's going to be an incomplete application until they get that. 292 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:28,000 » That makes sense. >> Yeah. Then that's 293 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:33,919 something that we do with Rise on on a food application for a special event is 294 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,039 if they don't get it 30 days ahead then they increase it by 50% on fee. 295 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,760 » Sure. >> Even coming forward. So it's not like 296 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,120 they're going to pull off a 4 day event in 12 days any. So they they they had 297 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:49,200 time. >> Yep. Yep. This there was a couple of 298 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:54,480 them in back in July that we really struggled with getting public liability. 299 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:58,480 then you know that it's not where it needs to be because they could easily 300 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:02,480 been in April because they knew they were do it 301 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080 because still got to go to the state from us. 302 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:07,200 » Yep. >> And they often want 30 days. 303 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,360 » They do too. >> Yeah. 304 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:15,760 » Uh the next item is a resolution for a gambling permit. Uh Alamir Health 305 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:20,320 Foundation or Douglas County Healthcare Foundation doing business as Al Health. 306 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:25,840 Um they're performing a raffle out at Carlos Creek. on December 5th. So 307 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:33,840 getting that into us very timely. >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 308 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:37,360 2660 for the gaming permit for health. >> I'll second. 309 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:40,559 » Thanks Jerry. Thanks Tim. Further discussion 310 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:41,760 » Schmidt. >> Yes. 311 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,640 » Helina. >> Yes. 312 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:43,840 » Rat. >> Yes. 313 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,960 » Wade. >> Yeah. 314 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,760 » Meer >> yes. 315 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:54,640 » Motion carried. Then the next resolution uh this is a 316 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:58,640 kind of a annual I should say bianual election resolution for which um if 317 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:02,880 there were to be recounts we have a joint powers agreement with the state 318 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:07,760 that we will perform our county portion of the recount here in Douglas County. 319 00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:12,240 This would be like for statewide recounts. So they have us enter into a 320 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:16,960 joint powers agreement for both the primary and the general election. Um, 321 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,919 and they'll pay us a whopping four cents a ballot to do so. 322 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:34,400 » Twice eight. I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2661 Minnesota 323 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:40,559 election recount joint powers. I'll second Charlie. Further discussion. 324 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,360 » Helina. >> Yes. 325 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,400 » Rat. >> Yes. 326 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,360 » Wade. >> Yes. 327 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,640 » Meer. >> Yes. 328 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,880 » Smith. Yes. >> Motion carries. 329 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:54,640 » All right. I'm moving into my budget proposal. Uh not a whole lot of line 330 00:26:52,320 --> 00:27:01,760 item changes other than we do have a couple election 331 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:05,679 items I got to bring up. One being um I'm going to be replacing our 332 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:09,520 tabulators. They're reaching the end of life the next couple years here. So 333 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,320 before the next presidential election, I'd like to get those replaced. We have 334 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:19,120 been setting aside funds annually in our budget for this. So, it's coming out of 335 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:25,760 capital projects to pay for that to the tune of about $260,000 or just under. 336 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:30,720 Um, so that's a a big item, but nothing that we weren't anticipating. So, we 337 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:37,120 that set aside funds for that. The other item that will affect elections is I've 338 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:43,679 got it in the preliminary budget um to plan for the potential of a special a US 339 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Senate election next year. There's we have potential for that. Amy 340 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:52,799 Clolobashar, her term isn't up until 2030 or 2031. She'd be on the ballot in 341 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:58,480 2030. However, she's a candidate for governor this year for the DFL 342 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,799 political party. So there's a likely, you know, there's potential there that 343 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:08,000 she could be elected governor. If so, then there would have to be a special 344 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:13,919 election in 2027 to fill her spot. >> Election or she get appointed. 345 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:17,200 » She'd appoint until the election occurs. >> Following year, 346 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:22,799 » well, yeah, till January. >> She would take over January 4th. 347 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:27,760 you get a voice company for that year >> until the election is held in November 348 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,240 of 2027 and that person would take position and 349 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,159 » that's why you got the increase. >> Yeah, that's why the increase in all 350 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080 those elections. >> You get that every other year, 351 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,559 » right? >> Difference. 352 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,760 » Yeah. Otherwise, this budget would look really good this year except for that. 353 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,520 So, >> yeah, that's why you're you're not 354 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:49,039 seeing the decrease in my budget that we normally would see in a off year. So, 355 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:53,279 but we'll find out. We'll know by December the election will have been 356 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:57,840 held by then. We'll know the results and we'll be able to tell if we establish 357 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,039 our final budget if we can reduce that or not. We can always reduce it. We just 358 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:08,000 can't increase it at that point. >> Thank you. 359 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:13,000 » And then for salary requests, I'm going to stick with the standard 3% increase. 360 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,120 » Question. How busy has the early voting been going? 361 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:23,360 » Pick it up. I think the fact that we put a notice to voters, a full page 362 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,240 requirement by statute that put a full page notice in last 363 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,520 » next Tuesday. >> Yeah, next Tuesday is the primary. So, 364 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,679 yeah, we had about 60ome people yesterday 365 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:36,399 » working. >> Yeah. And they're they're loving the the 366 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,080 flow of how it's working. They really are appreciating it. So, thank you on 367 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,200 behalf of the voters for allowing us to use that space. 368 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,000 » Well, we get to be nice and cozy in here. So, 369 00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:52,080 » yeah. >> Thank you. Yep. Anything else? 370 00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:57,159 [clears throat] >> Next up, Dave Rush, Landon Resource. 371 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:05,440 » Good morning again. >> Uh, one item for you this morning. So, 372 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:10,559 this is the Long Prairie Watershed Collaborative 373 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:17,679 Fiscal Agreement agent agent fiscal agreement for year 2027. So, uh, Todd 374 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:23,440 County has been the fiscal agent for this grant, um, new grant year in in 375 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:28,640 fiscal year 2027. So, we just need to reaffirm that they continue to be the 376 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:33,279 fiscal agent for that grant. So, whatever the board's wishes are and 377 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,279 then we'll, >> Mr. Chair, is that just is that every 378 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,279 year that >> I think it is whatever the grant 379 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:46,440 agreement is with the state. So this looks like it's for fiscal year 2627 380 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,399 running the state fiscal. >> Yeah. 381 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,640 » Okay. >> So that's so this would be 382 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:02,320 » or even late >> essentially updating that with a new 383 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:06,640 grant period. >> Mr. Chair, does that Dave does that 384 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:11,520 anything to do with the one plan? >> It directly has to do with one wershed 385 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:18,000 one plan. So this would be those grants come to one entity in that watershed and 386 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:21,440 they handle all the financial stuff in the sock river. 387 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:26,720 » I do >> in the Sock River. They just switched 388 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:30,799 that. I think it was uh Sterns County and now it's Sterns soil 389 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,039 and water is the fiscal agent for that one. 390 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Yeah, that was cuz that's the third that's when financial center solid waste 391 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:45,159 is same day. >> Yep. Yep. I'll make a motion. 392 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:51,919 » Second, Charlie. Thanks, Jeff. Any further 393 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:53,760 discussion? My name, please. 394 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:54,640 » Me? >> Yes. 395 00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:55,760 » Schmidt? >> Yes. 396 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,640 » Kina? >> Yes. 397 00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:57,760 » Rat? >> Yes. 398 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,000 » Wade? >> Yes. 399 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,080 » Motion carries. >> Good. 400 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Thank you. Mary, 401 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,240 let's jump. Jill, you want to come on up? 402 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240 » Sure. 403 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:35,320 » I just have one item this morning. Um, just looking for a motion to approve 404 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,320 bills totaling 2,33,973.98. 405 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:50,600 » Motion to pay the bills. >> Second, 406 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Mr. Charlie. Jerry discussion, 407 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,440 please. >> Wade, yes. 408 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:54,559 » Meer, >> yes. 409 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,399 » Smith, >> yes. Helina, 410 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:02,600 » yes. >> Yes. Mu carries. 411 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,600 » Thank you. 412 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:12,960 » Josh into that. >> I think this is 413 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,480 » Oh, come on up. Come on up here. You're the next uh 414 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,919 » Oh, sounds like fun. 415 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,240 » We're just moving past it. >> That's what I heard. 416 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,120 » Going good. >> Mr. Rush, you guys are running a 417 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,519 fantastic uh >> Okay, so anyone wants to know who this 418 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:32,159 is, Timson, [laughter] >> public works director. 419 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:36,240 » Go ahead. >> Good morning. I just got three items for 420 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:40,480 you today. The first one is to approve some no parking on CASA 46. So, I was 421 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:45,360 approached by both the city of Alexandria and the school district as 422 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:52,240 well looking to put up some no parking signs front of Discovery Middle School. 423 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:57,200 Um, so they have both passed um the same resolution, so they're very identical 424 00:33:55,039 --> 00:34:03,279 what they're asking for. Um, and it is no parking during school day from 7:30 425 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:06,440 to 3:30 to approve. 426 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,720 » That's fine. I got a question. Have they talked about how they're going to deal 427 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:17,520 with traffic problem they already have? Because now I go there and pick up 428 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,399 grandkids. Where do they sit out on that road to get in there to pick up kids? 429 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,839 So, where are they going to go now? They're going to go park at Henry's and 430 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,560 then they're going to wave them up or because they have an issue with all 431 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:29,919 » Yes, they do. >> So, now that you took away the parking, 432 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,839 where are they going to go? Those people. 433 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,159 » So, actually, I think they weren't supposed to be parking through there 434 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,919 anyway. So, Discovery was supposed to be working at uh Roing, 435 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:42,800 » but have you been there for that >> during that time? No. 436 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:46,320 » It's about the worst night. >> It is. I know it's nasty. If you want to 437 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:50,639 pick up your kid early, you better be a half hour early before school's out in 438 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:53,679 order to be up in front. And if you're there at the time school's let out, 439 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:58,160 they're backed up, parked on the road trying to get in there cuz they got a 440 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,480 one circle. So, by eliminating the parking, where are those people supposed 441 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,480 to go? >> So, what I do think people are going to 442 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,760 do now that we have this path that we're in the process of finishing up, I think 443 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,119 they're going to tell their kids, "Walk up to Willoughby." 444 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,800 » They don't want that either. school does not want that because we sat on the they 445 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,200 don't want the kids coming out to the sidewalk and get picked up. 446 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,440 » So, >> so I'm concerned about this. But what 447 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:25,760 would happen if we would take this take this out of here, take that out of there 448 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,200 so people could come off the road and pick up their kids here? 449 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:31,040 » Well, no. They they go here. >> Yeah. 450 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,680 » Drive all the way back here. This is where you pick up the kids. You go 451 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,839 around and go out over there. >> Okay. 452 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,160 » And so when you stop here to pick up your kids, this is backed up all the way 453 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,160 out to here. I'm there. You're here. So these people are waiting to get in to go 454 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,800 pick up kids. And if they can't park there, where are they going to go? 455 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,359 » If we made it so that they could come in here to get here instead of blocking up 456 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,760 the road here. >> Well, they could park on there, but they 457 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,680 can't get on. >> They got to go somewhere. 458 00:35:53,664 --> 00:35:57,599 [clears throat] >> They got to come in here. They can't. 459 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,839 » They have to come in here, but then they can't get to this road. 460 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,880 » But basically, >> it's a Well, you know where I live? 461 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,960 » Yeah. I'm within six blocks of Christmas. 462 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:12,960 The gymnas the gymnastics parking lot is supposed to be off limits for after 463 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:19,920 school pickup. School is you and Jake. More of your 464 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:25,760 engineers should go over there in the morning 465 00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:30,240 and then again from 2:45 to I'm not now, not till school starts, but before we 466 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:34,720 make any final decisions on this roundabout and everything else. I but 467 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,839 Shane >> and they have been working on it but 468 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:44,320 they need help. That's why I'm telling >> Mr. Sandstead and his crew they need 469 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:48,880 help with this idea. There was a time when all the buses picked up the kids. 470 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Now they flipped that. I mean on the back side of the school I mean the buses 471 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:57,040 on the west side there. Now they move buses to the front 472 00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:00,960 » to the east side and then all the people are coming in on that south driveway 473 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,599 like Shane said and you're supposed to pick your kids up somewhere in the back. 474 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,720 We live over there in the ranch at Arabella and we got a grandson there. My 475 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:16,850 wife will meet him somewhere over there on Spanky's property down here or drive, 476 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,839 you know, [clears throat] 477 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:24,720 situation our place anyway a lot of times. It's just it's such a So I'm just 478 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:27,440 saying before we make a whole lot of final decisions on what we're going to 479 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,480 do. >> I think it needs you you like you said 480 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:37,440 that that's probably got to work with the damn railroad and get an overpass. 481 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,079 » But now just what we're just talking about don't even happen when there's a 482 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,359 train. >> That is a whole another. 483 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,440 » So I I Mr. Sure. I just got to say what would happen if we would take and put a 484 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:52,880 road across to the backside of the Eagles. 485 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,720 » Well, that Charlie and I sat on that committee with Rick and we talked and 486 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:01,359 that was exactly what we said. Why don't you build your road up and go back into 487 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,800 that neighborhood and start and even use a bus that could haul the kids back 488 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,240 there and unload them just a short back and forth and they they haven't done a 489 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,200 thing. We sat there, we talked about that whole thing 490 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:14,000 » and when it got done school just said they didn't do anything. 491 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,720 » There was a lot of discussion. and they didn't do a thing with it. And I don't 492 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,520 know if this is going to solve the problem they got. The only thing they're 493 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,440 doing is telling the parents you can't park your because that's what the 494 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,920 they're doing. The kids are coming out going out to the sidewalk jumping in the 495 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,440 car and leaving. And they don't want them doing that. Okay. What are you 496 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:32,960 going to do with the problem you got? That does solve some of it. So what I 497 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,960 think a lot of their issue I don't think they need the whole bit no parking like 498 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:41,200 what they have in here. They need so far away from either of their driveways so 499 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:44,079 that as you're in and out if that's what we end up doing. I think that makes a 500 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,720 ton of sense. agree with I agree with T I think you should go over and readress. 501 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:53,760 » In all fairness to the school bus drivers once this buses start leaving 502 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:57,599 everybody shuts down just like they did in Jefferson. 503 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:02,000 People that are plenty of old enough in this room that and the high school was 504 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:06,320 over there on Jefferson. Once they started going across Jefferson Street, 505 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:11,119 nobody drove on Jefferson. The buses went hed right on out to Broadway. One 506 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,640 right after the other this far apart. They do the same thing coming out of 507 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,320 Discovery. That doesn't mean they're necessarily watching traffic, but 508 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:25,280 traffic has to see them and stop with them. So, it's not it's not proper 509 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:30,000 traffic control by a damsite. It's just what needs to be done. I don't know. 510 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,880 It's not easy to when I read this, I wasn't excited because we sat in there 511 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,000 and went over this all with them. They asked us, we gave them ideas and nothing 512 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,040 happened. Others create more of a problem. I think 513 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,800 » I don't we can't they don't want to come. They haven't come up with a 514 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,119 solution and it's not easy. I think I I would really like you to do that before. 515 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,960 Like I said, I do a lot of whining, but I live there and I I get to witness this 516 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:55,520 every day a couple three times. >> Um, so what I'm hearing from the board, 517 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,440 you want me and Jake to study this a little bit better? Should I be bringing 518 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,320 this to you January? Is that too late or are you No. 519 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,880 » Well, when's their school year's coming? I don't know when they want to try and 520 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,119 do it, but how do you go look at it till school starts? 521 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:10,480 » They were want this. I know before school starts. I know they split. 522 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,160 » I want to answer it, but I mean you're going to have the sidewalk. What is that 523 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:17,520 going to create? I don't know if that's going to create any It might 524 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:21,280 » unless all the kids walk down and they pick them up at Henry's. Like I said, 525 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,520 » yeah, but then you got to move. >> No, that's not 526 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,320 » I mean that's why we have other issues because with the with the sidewalk now, 527 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:33,520 how are the residents going to take it? >> Going to get a lot more going on in 528 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:38,400 their area, right? So what I am what I'm writing down study 529 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,880 this see if we can come up with a better option for them and present it to should 530 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:48,960 we LGCC >> you got to see what they got going to 531 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:55,119 find out what their plan is because they got to have one start in August 532 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:59,440 » end of the month they got to have a traffic plan. So, just one question. 533 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:04,520 What if you took the no put the no parking there but turned it into a right 534 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,520 turn lane? 535 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:10,640 » There isn't going to be a cop within the mile. 536 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:15,920 » But, I mean, with the no parking, if you turn it into a right turn lane, they're 537 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:19,839 going to go you can't work away. >> The other thing you could do is put no 538 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,560 parking by both driveways back up so many feet at least to get them started. 539 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,040 » I think that I think that's >> I don't have an issue with that. That's 540 00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:27,920 a start. But I don't think you need to do the whole thing because you're gonna 541 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:31,359 have I don't the cars are going to sit out on the road then you're going to 542 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,319 block stop traffic >> because I want to make a right-hand turn 543 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,680 like you said into the school and I can't get in because they're they are 544 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,359 backed up out to the road and they don't leave no space up the approaches. 545 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,560 » Oh I I I live with that. >> That's for sure. 546 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:50,720 » Go ahead. And also I'd like to make a comment. I think that the uh move of 547 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:55,760 transportation is not being utilized fully. That's why we're seeing the 548 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:00,480 backup in the traffic that we're not using the school bus and Uber paying for 549 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:10,079 it. All of us are paying for that transportation. And I guarantee you that 550 00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:15,680 uh the uh school buses are almost empty. And uh they know that they talked about 551 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:19,680 that 15 years ago when they were planning a new high school if they 552 00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:23,280 should even if we should get rid of our school buses. 553 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:31,040 What do you need? Both a parking lot that holds 2,000 cars and school bus 554 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:39,560 expans. You know, you get the 90 and 72 passenger buses with 8 to 10 kids on the 555 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,560 state says we'll provide. 556 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:49,119 » So, the motion is out there. If it doesn't get a second, it's going to die. 557 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:53,040 Motion. He made a motion. I may go to the 558 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:55,440 » parking as I said seconded parking you mean? 559 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,760 » Yeah. >> I hear who wants to do that. You said 560 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,440 the school >> the school and the city's already done. 561 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,160 » They they both passed the resolutions there. 562 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,640 » But it's up to you to >> it's up to the county board. It's the 563 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,079 county's right. >> What he's saying is Jeff made a motion. 564 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,839 I said if we don't get a second it's going to die anyway. 565 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:17,160 » I'll second just so we can vote. >> Oh. [laughter] 566 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,800 I could always be >> He's just got No. My name please. 567 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:23,920 » Schmidt. >> No. 568 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,119 » Helina. >> No. 569 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,720 » Rat. >> No. 570 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,640 » Wade. >> No. 571 00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:33,640 [laughter] >> No. 572 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:39,920 » So, sorry. You didn't you didn't know. Are you coming? I know. 573 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:43,280 » No. No. Um, so question. >> We're not meeting you up. question to 574 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,480 the board because we talked about maybe doing something at each of these 575 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:51,599 approaches. Is that what you want your motion to be? Should we take care of 576 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:54,560 like 25 feet paint the curb back and make that no 577 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,839 » your recommendation >> on what do you think I think that 578 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,680 » Can you say it again? >> Um so what we would end up doing at each 579 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:06,480 of those entrances coming into the main parking lot, we would paint uh probably 580 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,560 20 to 25 ft of the curb. We'll look at each of them exactly what that is. So, 581 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,480 we'll make no parking as you're entering and exiting the main parking lot so you 582 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,200 can actually see what's coming. >> We would paint that yellow. There would 583 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,760 also have to be one sign up on either post. 584 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:28,480 » So, I I mean I think that's good, but I do think that you should look into 585 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:32,480 taking that a road west that 586 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,800 » 100% that came up when we talked about it. Yeah, that's why I was surprised 587 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,960 they didn't do anything. They actually got a trail there. They build it up a 588 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:44,760 little bit. Yep. We'll we'll look at more options for the 589 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,760 school. I don't think 590 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,000 I made a motion. Charlie made a motion. I'll second it. 591 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,599 » Any further discussion on this? The name, please. 592 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,640 » Kina, >> yes. 593 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,760 » Grab, >> yes. 594 00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,800 » Way, >> yes. 595 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:57,680 » Meer, >> yes. 596 00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,040 » Schmidt, >> yes. 597 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,240 » Motion carries. >> All right. I got direction. 598 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:09,680 Uh, next item that we have is a resolution to accept a park donation. 599 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:13,760 So, the Big Oie Bike Club um donated a mower for the trails for us. U Brad was 600 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,119 going to be on his way to explain that he's here. 601 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,760 » He didn't make it. >> Wonderful. 602 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:23,560 » You were hiding back there on me. >> He came in quiet. He stayed away from me 603 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,560 cuz I I don't sound like 604 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:31,200 » Yep. Yeah. So, uh, we told tell the view this week about this at the coffee 605 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,880 meeting, but, uh, yeah, the Big Old Bike Club, they were looking for a mower to 606 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:39,359 help with the spin trimming on the mountain bike trails and, uh, I told 607 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,640 them, "We'd be all for it, but that's not something the county is going to 608 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:47,440 purchase, and they ended up writing a grant, getting one. They donated to us 609 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:51,280 to maintain, and then we mow and we've been using it. I been using it this 610 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,240 summer. It's been fantastic." Works well. 611 00:45:51,599 --> 00:46:00,000 » Yep. And we can run we can it's a all terrain zero for the tracks. It can go 612 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,200 on 30 degree slope and we run it right down the center although we center the 613 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:06,720 mountain bike trail and run the tracks on each side of it. And so we can mow 614 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:10,560 about a foot and a half on each side. It's just one pass around instead of 615 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:17,200 walking up and then coming back down the trail to spin from each side. So it's 616 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,800 been a game saver. We're actually because of that, we've got the entire 617 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,720 race course for the high school mountain bike race in September's already been 618 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:30,079 repacked with clay this summer because we've had time cuz our mowing's been 619 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:34,720 cutting. We mow about once every two weeks where we having somebody spin trim 620 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:38,640 almost daily to try to keep those, you know, open for a high school race that's 621 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,040 coming this fall. So, it's helped a lot with the maintenance. 622 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:48,960 » We've been trying it out. It's obviously working. So, we're looking for the 623 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:53,520 approval of potentially accepted. >> Sounds great. Make a motion to approve 624 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:56,880 resolution 2662. >> Yep. 625 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,560 » Park donation. >> I'll second. 626 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,920 » Thanks, Tim. Thanks, Charlie. Any further discussions? Name, please. 627 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,880 » Helina, >> yes. 628 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,000 » Rat, >> yes. 629 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,200 » Wade, >> yes. 630 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,240 » Meer, >> yes. 631 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,480 » Schmidt, >> yes. Motion carried. 632 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,440 » Thank you. [clears throat] Last item that I have is to approve our 633 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:18,800 engineering contract to do our bridge safety inspections. So, we've had MSA, 634 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,400 they've been doing our bridge safety inspections for the last couple of 635 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:28,400 years. Um, they've done a actually really good job with that for us. Um, 22 636 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:32,079 bridges I believe are on here for uh this year. That includes the initial 637 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:40,960 inspection of our Chipo Park bridge that we made last fall. Um this is this is 638 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:44,960 kind of our standards um meets the uh the federal 639 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:49,359 requirements. The one thing that I am looking for one thing that we have to 640 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:55,760 include um so as of 2024 641 00:47:52,720 --> 00:48:00,800 uh the feds are actually requiring extra um covert data and bridge data. So 642 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:05,839 different uh items that we typically didn't have in our uh bridge 643 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:11,280 inspections. So that includes this uh 21,000 includes time for putting those 644 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:16,079 in. So when you look into the uh uh attachment A and page three of that 645 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:22,400 items three item four that mentions those snivey culver data collections uh 646 00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:26,160 standards for national bridge inventory. It's all snippy stands for 647 00:48:24,303 --> 00:48:29,040 [clears throat] um what they're they're going to get that extra data. So that 648 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:33,119 includes the time for doing all of that for us that we can make those federal 649 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:39,599 requirements as well. Um, one other thing I was going to point out um, under 650 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:42,640 a state uh, timber haulers permit. So the state's been collecting 651 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:45,440 all this money for years. They didn't know what to do with it. They've been 652 00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:49,920 giving it back to the counties. Um, so we'll have another $6,000 to apply 653 00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:53,119 towards that 21,000. So our cost will be less. 654 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:55,280 » And how often do they have to inspect the bridges? 655 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,599 » So it's going to depend on the structure itself. Some of them are at 12-month 656 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:02,800 frequency. So, I think we have four of Nope, I think we have two of them that 657 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,480 are every year. That should be on your list back there. 658 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,800 » The ones that are in poor condition, they got to come in. 659 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:13,200 » Yep. They got to come in every year. Um, most of your structures that are actual 660 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:18,800 bridges um are going to be on a 24-month frequency if they're still pretty 661 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:22,480 decent. We have in Douglas County uh 61 structures. 662 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,200 Um and then your culverts when they're in actually pretty good condition, we 663 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:31,119 can get those on a 4-year frequency. That's what we do. 664 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:35,920 » So the state of Minnesota, any structure or group of structures that spans 10 ft 665 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,480 or more is a bridge. >> And that's what ends up on our bridge 666 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:44,079 inspection list. >> Tell me how many thousand calls we have. 667 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:48,400 » No. No. So you're thinking culvert's like the the smaller 668 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:52,640 » that that's anything that's bigger that spans 10 ft or more. 669 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,040 » Oh, it spans 10. >> Why? Why? 670 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,920 » Why? wide. >> Okay. 671 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,319 » Not length. Yeah. >> Yeah. That would have been quite a bit 672 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:05,229 more than 60 >> name. 673 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,229 » He's about the only guy that [laughter] 674 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,319 » correct. >> So, we got to check all the ones on the 675 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,920 Central Lakes Trail. >> So, the state 676 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:18,800 » So, we would check the ones it it depends on what road goes over it. Those 677 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:22,400 are the ones that we check. >> And so, we are also the bridge 678 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:25,359 inspectors for the townships. So, a lot of those don't roads are going to cross 679 00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:30,520 the except >> Y. 680 00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:30,520 Thank you. 681 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,599 » We need action on that. >> Right. 682 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:42,960 » I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second it. Any further discussion? 683 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:45,119 Lay, please. R. >> Yes. 684 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,040 » Wade. Yes. Meer. >> Yes. Smitt. 685 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:51,839 » Yes. >> Yes. Motion carries. 686 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:57,680 » Thank you very much. It will take uh get better. 687 00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:57,680 » Five minutes.