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Point the jail at noon, or thereabouts, and we won't be returning until around 2 o'clock. So we have an opportunity to visit it and see it in operations.

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Captain Cunes is here, but it's Captain Stork now that's in charge of the jail, right? So, okay.

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Yeah, so anyways, so and we will be eating the food that the inmates eat, so that'll be

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We've done that before, so it's very nutritious so anyways, that's the reason that item is on for two o'clock

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We're not taking their food. No, we're eating the same food as they

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Okay the same meal. Okay with that. I have nothing else

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to mention in regards to

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housekeeping. So we allow three periods of public comment. One at the opening of the meeting,

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opening public comment. We have a section after the closing meeting called closing public comment.

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And then we take public comment on all items that are mentioned on the agenda as or public comment.

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So those are three opportunities. If you wish to offer public comment or an agenda item,

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that is marked for a possible action in our regular agenda and you cannot stay until that item is heard.

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We encourage you to use the podium at that time at this time to offer your opening public public comment on that item.

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Understanding that if you then choose to stick around you forward at your forefoot or your time for that item.

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But so we limit public comment to three minutes per speaker.

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We use timing lights operated by our Vice Chair, Commissioner Tolbert.

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When you approach the podium, we ask you to print your name so we can get it accurately in the record.

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State your name for the record and then we will start your time.

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You'll hear the light will turn yellow and you'll hear a slight beep.

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at when you have 30 seconds left and then at the end of public comment, your three minutes,

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you'll hear that obnoxious red light go off. Okay, so we actually to conclude your comments

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and sit down at that time.

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We also ask you to limit your public comment to matters that are within

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the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners must be addressed to the

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chairperson and the Board, not the members of the public, so the Board may take future action on

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items that are raised by the public. So at this time public comment we taken on

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those items there within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County

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Commissioners. It looks like Mr. Meyer is lining up to do that.

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Welcome.

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Thank you, Mark.

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Commissioners. My name is Nick Meyer for the record. I want to

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address the agenda item of compensation. The compensation schedule that

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was adopted by the board in 2022, is excessive and completely out of sync with compensation

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and other rural counties in Nevada, Idaho and Oregon.

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Lion County, our neighboring county, has a population of 66,000 people, larger than Douglas

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County, and their county manager has a salary of 2,000, 16, excuse me, $216,000, which

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far less than what the board is recommending we pay our county manager. Plus, Lyon County does not

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have an assistant county manager. While Douglas has an assistant county manager with a $200,000 salary.

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This is just the tip of the iceberg. In addition to these excessive salaries, Douglas County is

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paying 100% of the retirement benefits for these positions, which amounts to $100,000 per year for

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county manager, and 72,000 for the assistant county manager, and we have to pay that every

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single year. There isn't a single private or public company in America that pays 100% of

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an employee's retirement at 36.75% of their salary. The bottom line is that compensation is excessive

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and out of sync with other rural counties. We're top-heavy with administration and paying too much.

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Where is the performance review of the county manager?

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Where is the performance review of the assistant county manager?

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Are they online? Have their goals and objectives been posted online?

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On what basis is the board recommending a merit increase?

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The one thing we know is that the county manager failed to...

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File for a stormwater grant, on time, resulting in the county missing an opportunity to fund a stormwater project.

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And why didn't the county manager with her staff, step up to develop and propose a stormwater utility tax, instead of the board having to spend $140,000 on a consultant, who came up with a plan that was so unfair that it was rejected soundly.

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These salaries and retirement packages are an insult to the citizens of this county.

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We have residents in this county who are having difficulty making rent and need the food

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bank to make ends meet.

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My recommendation is that the board created a task force of current and retired business

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executives to review and revise the compensation structure in this county.

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We have plenty of business executives that are experienced in just that.

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They can also set up a structure of performance reviews against goals and objectives.

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Mark my words, these excessive salaries and retirement benefits are going to bite us in the behind,

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and drive this county into a fiscal crisis.

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This should be the top priority of the board.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Good morning, Ellie Waller.

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I have lots of questions.

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But first, a clarification is the jailed tour,

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I'm hearing noise out here, open to the public as well.

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You're going to answer later.

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Next, I commit crimes.

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OK, so I have lots of questions today.

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Who on community development staff

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addresses questions about Tahoe-related issues?

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November 2025 was the last update on the Barton Proposed

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South Shore Area Plan Amendments and Environmental Impact Statement is their more recent info.

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Kale, Complete Streets Project, is it still on track to be completed in October of 2026?

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There has been a stormwaters takeholder group formed in the valley, when will a Tahoe group

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announcement to apply come forward?

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Who on staff is now assigned to the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency Advisory Planning Commission

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besides our at-large person, Garth Alling,

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who I thought we were going to get presentations from.

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Typically, it's a land use planner from community development.

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Next, what is the status of the developers addressing

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Vista Grande Road intersection?

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Be nice to know.

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When will the individual community plans within the master plan be addressed

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and vetted by individual communities now that the Tahoe area plans

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are underway?

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When will there be an update from the roads workshop of April 2025?

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And lastly, something of great value to me, because I attended several meetings, and that's

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why you haven't seen me here, is the citizens from both California and Nevada, all the local

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jurisdictions got together.

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We were successful at the legislative oversight interim committee on the Tahoe Regional Planning

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agency on getting evacuation issues elevated till a bill draft request, which will be

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forwarded to session.

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Thank you.

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Justin Center on behalf of Roots and Wings parents in Lake Tahoe.

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This week, the Park Service Department and Roots and Wings parents had a productive meeting.

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But we found it very important that we should reframe the narrative of this school.

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This is a school.

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This is a preschool.

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It's not a daycare, it is a preschool.

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And the reason it falls under Parks and Rec is because

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the job of Parks and Rec is to provide essential life

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and hand-seeing services to its constituents.

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And that is exactly what this program does.

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Despite the narrative that is being presented,

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the population of young families and toddlers in Lake Tahoe

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is increasing.

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Toddlers make up 44% of our current child population,

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and that number is only growing with record numbers of births,

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projected record numbers of birth at Barton Hospital. One of the possible solutions that have been

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presented to the board was a privatization model versus the current public model. When we switch

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from a private, from a public model to a private model, we start prioritizing profits over education

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and to see what that actually looks like in real life we don't have to look very far.

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With tall high schools, the number one rated high school in Nevada.

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Zefer Coe is in the top 20% roots in wings is a award-winning school.

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The reason being is because those schools at a foundational level do the roots in wings.

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Children are learning how to read and how to write and how to succeed in the academic world.

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When you look down here in the valley, where there's a privatization model, none of the schools crack the top 40% in a state that ranks number 40 in the nation.

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That's unacceptable, and that shows you what happens when you prioritize profits over education.

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So how do we actually fund this?

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What was presented to the board from staff was a tuition high?

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In order to fully cover the amount that is needed,

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it would cost families $75 a day.

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Private nannies are cheaper.

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The problem that we had as parents was that there are revenue streams

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right in front of Parks and Rec that are not being looked at.

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Right now, the Douglas County Rex Center charges roughly 50% of what South Vic Tahoe charges for the Rex Center.

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If for a modest rate increase of $2.44, would a cup of coffee used to cost?

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We can fully use those funds to fund roots and wings.

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If you want to use this as an actual revenue-generating source,

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raising this amount, eight dollars a month per person, a hundred dollars a year would generate

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half a million dollars for this county budget problems go away for parks and rent. So there are

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other avenues to explore and I'm really hoping that staff will actually explore that

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versus just trying to pass the buck under the parents. Thank you. Thank you.

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Rachel Christensen,

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I'm here today because I believe the residents of Douglas County deserve accountability from the

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our county and protect our tax dollars. Today you have the opportunity to get the county manager

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a performance review and potentially erase. I'm asked you to look carefully at the record before

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you reward the performance. Under the county manager's leadership Douglas County has become entangled

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in one costly controversy after another. There's the Mueller Parkway lawsuit involving concerns

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over roadway designs during his right away and compliance with existing agreements.

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legal expenses and in certain surrounding, a major county project. Then there's

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China Springs where serious questions have been raised about the county

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managers oversight spending and transparency. A federal lawsuit now names

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county manager and two commissioners. Then comes the stormwater fee. The county

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spent the past year developing and promoting a county wide fee only put it on

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hold after residents raised raise serious concerns about affordability, fairness,

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accountability and how the fees were calculated. Now we're going back to the

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board. And there's the Knox excavating and painted rock mine matter. The county manager was

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directly involved in that agreement. And later over seeing its enforcement, that

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agreement has now broken down with Knox claiming the county breached it and speaking of the

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difficulty they have had with Jennifer Davidson. Now this commissioners directing the county

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manager to negotiate a new path forward. When we are entrusting the county manager with millions

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of tax payer dollars.

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These are questions that deserve answers, not a race.

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The commissioners responsible for the person running the county.

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When the multiple major projects, financial decisions and controversies repeatedly require

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BOC's attention, taxpayers have the right to ask whether management is being held accountable.

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Commissioners, this isn't about anti-counny manager, it's about accountability, and that

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brings me to you.

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You're the elected officials, you're the one who ultimately answered to the voters.

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The county manager doesn't have to stand for election. You do.

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When the taxpayers see lawsuits, financial problems, controversial fees and agreements that break down,

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they don't get to vote on the county manager's job. They vote on yours.

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Your job is not to protect someone's position or reward someone simply because that's what's always been done.

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Your job is to protect the taxpayers.

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The county manager's base salary is already over $250,000 with the total pay and benefits.

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Over 352,000.

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That's the highest pay county manager in the state.

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This time when we are repeatedly told the county needs more money taxpayers deserve

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to know why this performance warrants and even larger paycheck.

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Our anniversary date isn't June when her review has traditionally taken place.

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yet this year, the review was moved to immediately before a holiday weekend following intense public

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controversy over the stormwater feed. Residents noticed. So today I'm asking you to listen to

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the people who elected you. Don't give a raise simply because it's expected. Don't give a glowing

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review simply because it's easier. Look at the results. Look at the consequences. We're not just a

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Good morning, county manager and commissioners, Dave Foberson, resident room straf. First off, to Jennifer, having a public evaluation, has got to be the hardest thing to ever be done. And you've done always done this for grace through the years, I've seen it. So, keep on doing that. I wasn't planning a talk today, but I wanted to get some stuff on the record, because in my time at East Fort Fire, Douglas County, mercy and management, and the state emergency management. I think I've seen eight county managers here at Douglas County.

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county. Larry got recycled once, so I think maybe seven, if you counted that way. A lot of

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these folks that were here before Jennifer, can't sit on the road. They were hills that

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didn't want to die on is what I heard multiple times. People wanted to close a fire station

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in TRE because they didn't think those people paid enough tax dollars to have a fire station

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down there was a different one county manager. Jennifer takes on these hard ideas. Jennifer does

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a great job building community report. Whether she agrees with them or not, she's still doing

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a lot of public outreach. So I encourage you I'm not going to talk about salary because that's

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up to you guys, but I think she deserves high marks for what you're doing and some goal tightening

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and some more support from all of us to help her do a better job. But thank you for what

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you do for

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the time that that comes up but whoever came up with the idea of having a public review of an

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employee must have thought of the most brutal thing you can do. I've done a lot of employee reviews

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and this is the most brutal way to do it. I think if it was the commissioners that came up with it,

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we shouldn't have a yearly review of you folks where we get to speak directly on that. My purpose to

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up right now was I noticed in the paper this past week about a certain entity that's being proposed

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in Carson City. And the only reason I bring it up is because we've got one being proposed, not being

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proposed, it's being put here. A community performing arts center, which has changed its name many times.

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But Carson is now proposing a new community performing arts center at the high school,

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A new auditorium, 500 seats plus one theater, and primarily for use for students and all that, but open to public performances and everything else.

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The only reason I bring this up is they were very honest about the price, 32 to $36 million for one stage performing arts center.

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If that goes through, which I doubt that it will, but if it does, they will now have two

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performing arts centers up there, competing with one that we're in the process of trying

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to come up with the money to put together.

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We've already spent 10% of that 32 million.

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So who knows how far that's going to go?

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Just wanted to bring that up so that you're aware of it, sure that you were, but 32, the 36 million

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is a more appropriate cost for what we are looking at down here with more than one stage

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and a 250 to 500 seat theater and stuff. So we had to be very careful about how we're going

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about that. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good morning, Julie Duda. On Tuesday, I met with the Treasurer, the Treasurer Assistant,

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the COO and the Comptroller to discuss action for improving transparency of the LGIP money market.

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I thank all of them for their support and cooperation.

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It's a dynamic transition with a possible resolution of a separate LGIP money market report with actual balances and monthly transactions.

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This action to improve LGIP transparency is directly connected to the people who took a stand

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and contacted commissioners and the county manager to all those people good job.

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When completed, this will be a win for the people of Douglas County.

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To be clear, that commission...

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Chair and county manager were responsive and made the meeting possible.

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To briefly review the transparency issue, during the stormwater campaign, research determined the LGIP, money market balance was 103 million and the county investment total was 227 million.

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The county monthly investment report failed to report the LGIP money market balance of 103 million.

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Instead, although the balance fluctuated about 40 plus million was reported.

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The transparency upgrade now in progress will prevent this incomplete LGIP reporting.

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Another topic to consider is the county messaging during the stormwater campaign related

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to the FEMA flood mitigation grants awarded to Douglas County.

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The disinformation or propaganda message was, county funds may not be available for the required

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match.

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People want to know who stated this and was it a strategy to get the fundamentally flawed

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stormwater enterprise tax approved?

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Going forward, please stress the importance of truthful and accurate disclosures to the

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public.

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Thank you, Mr. Duda, and thank you for your recognition and take an advantage of the

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opportunity to visit.

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Is there any additional public comment?

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Okay, I'm not seeing any additional public comment, I'm going to bring it back up here.

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I know that.

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It's on my list here.

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Our county clerk treasurer wishes to offer some public comment also, so I asked her to wait

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until closing public comment or opening public comment was concluded.

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So Ms. Bergenz.

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Thank you, Chairman.

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I appreciate the opportunity.

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I, I, I, I, I was, I'm going to use your name, but since you told everyone that we spoke,

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I'll just throw that out there.

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I wanted to address the public comments that were made at the previous board meeting that I was

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unable to attend.

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I was not here, the, the previous board meeting.

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Those comments raised concerns regarding the transparency within the county's investment

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report, specifically referencing three sub-accounts that are contained within LGIP.

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LGIP, which is the local government investment pool, is separate from the counties.

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They are investment accounts, but they're separate from the county's investment accounts that are

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through meter.

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I think it's just important to provide a little clarification for the record.

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The accounts that were referenced are associated with bond obligations and the molar

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Parkway project.

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These are not general investment accounts with funds available for discretionary use.

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The monies within those accounts have been specifically allocated and are restricted for

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their designated purpose.

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They are maintained separately precisely so that those funds can be properly accounted

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for and used for the obligations and projects for which they are intended.

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I also want to clarify something regarding the responsibility of the county's investment reporting.

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As the elected county treasurer, the responsibility of the investment of county funds and the reporting of those investment falls completely under my office and my statutory responsibility as treasurer.

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The Board of County Commissioners receives those reports, but the Board does not prepare

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them, manage the investments or direct me to incurring out those statutory responsibilities.

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I take transparency and accountability very seriously.

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If there is a question about something contained in an investment report or if someone believes

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additional information or explanation would be helpful, I absolutely welcome those questions.

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In fact, I encourage them, but I would respectfully ask those questions be directed to me.

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Since the public comment was made, I have met personally with the individual who raised the concerns.

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We went through the funds in detail, including what those accounts represent,

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why the funds are held separately, and the restrictions on the use.

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We also had a very productive discussion about ways my office could provide additional information

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in the reporting to make it easier for members of the public to understand exactly what they are looking at.

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I appreciated the conversation and the opportunity to hear another perspective. My office is now working on a plan to provide additional transparency and context within our investment reporting going forward.

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Transparency does not simply mean providing numbers. It also means making sure those numbers are presented in a way that people can understand.

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It is difficult for the commissioners to respond to concerns that are on a report that is prepared under the authority and responsibility of another elected official.

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More importantly, directing those questions to my office gives me the opportunity to provide those facts.

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Explain them what they have. Accounts represent and address those concerns directly rather than allowing questions or misunderstandings to remain unanswered on the public record.

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I am accountable for the work of the treasurer's office, and I am always willing to answer

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for it.

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Going forward, I simply asked those questions regarding our investment reports to me so that

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I have the opportunity to provide the information and the transparency that the public

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deserves.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I did want to take an opportunity to address a couple of the things that were asked by

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are public. Number one, Ms. Waller asked about the public jail tour, and I honestly don't

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know the answer to that. It is not okay. So, okay. Secondly, Ms. Rachelson referred

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to a lawsuit that has been filed against the county regarding activities and accusations

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of the trying to Springs Youth Camp and named myself our Vice Chair and our County

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Manager. I think that can't go unspoken too, okay? Those allegations happened in

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early 2000. Early 2000s, okay? None of us were involved with the county. I can't

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that for a bit. You weren't there then, okay. The only reason that we were named is because

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of the titles under our names here and under Jennifer's name. So it has nothing to do with us.

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It's just that when an individual sues us, they name the chair, the vice chair, and the county manager,

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all the time, okay. But those allegations are our 25 years old, okay, and did not involve,

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I wasn't even a resident of this county at that time, and it was not on the Board of Commissioners.

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Okay, so I think that the public needs to understand that that aspect of that lawsuit, okay?

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So anyways, with that, I'll shut up.

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Thank you.

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No, I know.

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I know.

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Okay, with that, I'll close public comment unless another commissioner had anything they wish to add.

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Okay. Very good. I'll close public comment and I'll move Dietham for approval of the agenda.

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So I'll entertain a motion to approve the proposed agenda as presented.

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Some move.

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Motion by Commissioner Hall, second by Commissioner Tolbert.

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All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Motion passes five to zero. Thank you. Approval of the previous minutes, entertain a motion to discussion to approve the draft minutes of the special meeting on August 4, 2026, and the regular meeting on August 6, the 2026 of the Board of County Commissioners.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Okay, motion by Commissioner Turcini and second by Commissioner Rice to approve the draft minutes as presented. All those are favor signify by saying aye.

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Hi. Motion passes by to zero. Thank you. We will now, this board also sits as the liquor board and so at this time we have two items on the liquor board agenda. So I'll recess as the Board of County Commissioners and convene as the Douglas County liquor board. This is generally there are six members that serve on this board.

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are Douglas County Sheriff, Sheriff Coverley serves on this board, but he's not here today,

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so we'll have five little to be able. So item seven one for possible action,

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discussion to approve the addition of Vice President and General Manager,

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Eric, Eric, is that I do not? Eric Allen, Noel's to the existing onsite unrestricted retail,

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retail, package retail, and Kater's liquor license with the entertainment endorsement and

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Restricted Gaming License for Premier Entertainment Tahoe LLC DBA Valley's Lake Tahoe. Eric Ellen Knulls has signed a lit waiver of notice of hearing Premier Entertainment Tahoe LLC DBA Valley's Lake Tahoe is located at 55 U.S. Highway 50.

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890-89449 being presented by Administrative Captain Captain Kunz.

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Our office for the record is applicant has completed all required paperwork and passed their background check in the Sheriff's Office.

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It's not opposed to this application.

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Any questions of Captain Kunz?

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Since he none, all those in favor? Well, I need a motion.

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I shall move.

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Second.

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Okay. Motion by Commissioner Rice,

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they're going to buy Commissioner Tarkinian

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to pass item 7-1 as presented.

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All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Motion passes 5-0.

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5-0 and 1.

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That's been 5-0-1.

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Please, sure.

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It's not here.

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Okay.

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Just trying to get all that correctly into the record.

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Okay, item 72 for possible action, discussion to approve the addition of Vice President General Manager, Eric Allen Knowles, to the existing adult characterized business license for premier entertainment Tahoe LLC DBA,

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Valleys Lake Tahoe, Eric Allen Knowles has signed a favor of notice of hearing, premier entertainment

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Tahoe LLC, DBA, Valleys Lake Tahoe is located at 55 U.S. Highway 50 State Line Nevada,

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8 9 4 4 9, Captain Coons again.

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Captain Coons of the Sheriff's Office for the record and this app can is also completed,

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required paperwork and pass the background check. Sheriff's Office is not opposed to this

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application.

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There you go, entertain a motion.

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Move the approval.

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Unless you have questions.

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Second.

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Motion by Commissioner Hales, second by Commissioner Tolbert to approve item seven two as illustrated.

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Any discussion?

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No discussion.

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All those in favor of seeing if I be saying aye.

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Aye.

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Okay.

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Motion passes five zero and one.

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Thank you very much, Captain Cooze.

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Thank you, sir.

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Maybe we'll see later on.

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You got it.

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OK.

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So at this time then, a CNC liquor board items are concluded.

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We'll adjourn as the Douglas County liquor board and reconvene as the Board of County Commissioners.

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And we have the consent calendar items A through G, entertain a motion to approve the consent calendar as presented.

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I move approval of consent items A through G.

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Second.

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Okay. Motion by Commissioner Hales.

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Seconded by Commissioner Rice.

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To approve the consent calendar items A through G as presented.

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A discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Motion passes five to zero. Thank you.

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Now, when I go into the administrative agenda,

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the first item on the agenda is item 111 for presentation only.

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ceremonial presentation of Proclamation 2026-P-1050 proclaiming the month of September 25 as Suicide Prevention Awareness Month in Douglas County and I've asked Commissioner Hales to present this to our President or whatever the title is of the Suicide Prevention Network, Debbie, and I always butcher your last name, so I'll just call you Debbie.

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to be able to do this. I am always amazed at the wonderful work of Suicide Prevention and so very grateful for all the good things you do.

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Douglas County Nevada Board of County Commissioners Proclamation Suicide Prevention Month September 2026.

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Whereas Douglas County recognizes September as National Suicide Prevention Month, a time dedicated to raising awareness of Suicide as a serious public health issue.

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promoting prevention and education, reducing stigma, and fostering hope and connection through our community.

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And whereas suicide was the tenth leading cause of death in the United States in 2024,

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claiming 48,824 lives nationwide in Nevada, 676 lives were lost as suicide,

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representing an age-adjusted rate of 19.61 deaths per 100,000 residents compared with a national rate of approximately 13.7 per 100,000, placing Nevada among the states with the highest suicide rates in the nation.

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And whereas every life lost a suicide has a profound and lasting impact.

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In fact, on families, friends, first responders and communities.

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And recognizing morning signs, having compassionate conversations and connecting individuals with appropriate

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resources are important steps in prevention. And whereas the suicide prevention network,

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a local non-profit, established in 1999, and based in Minden, provides suicide prevention

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education, intervention, and support services including peer grief and PTSD support groups,

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community outreach referrals and resources for individuals and families throughout Douglas County.

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And whereas reducing stigma and encouraging open conversations in our homes, schools,

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workplaces and community can help individuals feel supported and empowered to seek assistance

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With resources such as the Suitside Prevention Network, the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline and Local Behavioral Health Programs available to provide help and help.

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Now, therefore, be it proclamed that the Douglas County Board of County Commissioners nearby recognizes September 2026, a Suicide Prevention Month in Douglas County.

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Commence the Suicide Prevention Network and its community partners for their continued prevention,

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education and support efforts, and encourages all residents to recognize warning signs,

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reach out with compassion, and help foster community where those who are struggling know that support and hope are available.

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Thank you.

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This is such an honor to be recognized for our Suicide Prevention Network.

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Can I get you to pull the microphone?

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Thank you.

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Can you hear me now?

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Again, thank you for the recognition.

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It's a such an honor to be here today.

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Since becoming a nonprofit in 2002,

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Suicide Prevention Network has had one purpose

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to help save lives and remind people in our community

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that they do not have to struggle alone.

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For more than two decades suicide prevention network has worked to create a community where

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conversations about suicide and mental health are no longer hidden in the shadows.

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Through education, prevention, outreach and support, we have built partnerships throughout

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Douglas County and help create culture where it is okay to say, I am not doing okay.

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As long as there is one person in our community who feels alone overwhelmed and believes their life doesn't matter, we have more work to do.

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Suicide prevention network is more than the work of an agency.

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It is the strength of a community that chooses to care for one another.

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It is found in connection, in compassion, and in the simple but powerful message that no one should struggle alone.

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Every time we reach out, every time we truly listen, and every time we remind someone that they matter.

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We strengthen the safety net of our community,

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and sometimes just that one connection can save a life.

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I imagine there are people in this room today whose lives have been touched by suicide in some way.

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Maybe it was someone they loved, someone they worked with, someone they worried about,

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or perhaps there was a time when you yourself felt that you needed someone to talk to.

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We are incredibly proud of how far we have come, and each day we wonder who is going to walk into our office doors.

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The challenge of finding funding to keep our services going, creating new programs as our

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community needs have changed, and sometimes carrying home

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the heartbreak of the people that we

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have touched in our agency.

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But through it all, we never lose sight of why we are here.

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Behind every program, every dollar raised, and every person we reach out, what matters the most of life.

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We must keep talking, we must keep listening, we must keep reaching out and no matter how far we have come, we must never be comfortable believing we have done enough.

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This proclamation is a wonderful recognition of where we have been, but also see it's the commitment where we still need to go.

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On behalf of the families who have lost someone they love, the individuals who have allowed us

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to walk beside them during their darkest moments, and everyone at Suicide Prevention Network,

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our staff,

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our Board of Directors, our volunteers, our supporters, we are so grateful to you.

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And to Douglas County and you, Douglas County Commissioners, for recognizing us and letting

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us work so hard in the community that we all live in.

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But most importantly, thank you for standing with us as we continue this work.

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Because together, we continue to save lives, strengthen families, and build a community where

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00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,460
no one has to struggle alone.

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00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,100
The work continues, the fight continues,

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and so will we.

443
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:36,800
Thank you.

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00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:47,830
Sure, I'd like the staff to come up.

445
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:58,550
I just wanted to say on the public record

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00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:59,790
Jennifer Davidson County Manager,

447
00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:02,290
the only reason why I'm not wearing purple and solidarity

448
00:42:02,290 --> 00:42:03,790
with your team today, Debbie,

449
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is because I didn't want anyone to think I was bruised

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00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:09,050
by my evaluation that's coming up later.

451
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:12,710
So we'll get a quick photo and then we'll move on.

452
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,300
Thank you for Commissioner Hales for

453
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:58,860
Take care of that and I did I misspoke in my reading at item to the agenda. I don't know

454
00:42:58,860 --> 00:42:59,800
misspoke

455
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,280
Well did you catch that error?

456
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,700
Okay, it's twenty twenty six not twenty twenty five as I think I stated. So anyways

457
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Going backwards a year. So

458
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anyways, okay item

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12.11.2 for presentation only, presentation on Carson Valley Health updates and activities being presented by the newly appointed, along now.

460
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:39,560
Six months? Oh my gosh, where are you been? Okay. The new chief executive officer, Carson Valley Health, Shannon Rogers.

461
00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:42,770
It's

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00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:20,060
been a few minutes of your day to talk about some of the activities going on at

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00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:20,940
Carson Valley Health.

464
00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:24,180
I could talk about this for hours, but I will not, because I know you have a-

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00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:30,220
Can you, uh, uh, you're not usually this quiet at a board of chamber or meeting, but they can

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to speak up.

467
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:33,860
Maybe.

468
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,780
How's this?

469
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Any better?

470
00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:38,040
Okay.

471
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,380
Great.

472
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:39,180
Thank you.

473
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,660
So again, thank you for the time this morning.

474
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,380
I will be happy to share a few things that are going on at Carson Valley Health.

475
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:52,800
But first and foremost, I would like to commend Debbie and our team, that was a very touching presentation, and we truly are stronger together.

476
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:59,380
By way of introduction, if I haven't had the opportunity to meet you guys before, I am Shannon Rogers.

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00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,400
The Chief Executive Officer here at Carson Valley Health, been in that role as just identified for about six months now.

478
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:13,820
But I've been with the organization since 2004, so 22 years. I've served in a variety of capacities. Those are on your screen.

479
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:24,500
And I put those on there because I think it's important to share that the first decade or so of my time with the organization was spent creating community relationships and building programs to serve our community.

480
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:29,180
So I think that's really set up a good foundation for myself and for the organization to succeed.

481
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,840
So a little bit about person valley health, we are a private not for profit hospital system

482
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,920
here in Carson Valley located in Gardnerville and as a not for profit hospital, we are

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00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,000
required to reinvest all of the profits from our operations into the community. So that's

484
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,300
what I'm going to talk to you guys about a little bit today, how we are doing that.

485
00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:56,980
We do have a local leadership team up on your screen there that I'm very fortunate to

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00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:09,900
work with. They're a very experienced team and they all if you're locally. I would also like to share that we have a governing board, a form member governing board of also local residents and healthcare experts. So we're very fortunate to have the leadership that we do.

487
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:21,660
We are part of the Barton healthcare system and we're proud to be a member of that strong healthcare system supports not only the Carson Valley, but the South Lake Tahoe and surrounding neighborhoods.

488
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:35,900
I think you'll find as healthcare continues to evolve in Northern Nevada that partnerships are going to be even more crucial as we attempt to coordinate care and share resources to best serve our communities.

489
00:46:38,530 --> 00:46:42,250
We do cover all areas of the Carson Valley so we have some clinics up in Minden.

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00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:45,950
We have our main campus in Gardnerville at the south end of Gardnerville.

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00:46:46,090 --> 00:46:49,630
And then we have a small clinic out in Wellington serving the top has range of states community.

492
00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:54,410
We have an internal joke that if we build it, they will come.

493
00:46:54,490 --> 00:46:58,750
Every time we put up a new facility or add a new service, we get very busy, very quickly.

494
00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:03,070
I think people are very surprised at the amount of patients we serve at our small hospital.

495
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,680
A large driver of that growth has been our specialty services that we've brought into the community.

496
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:16,460
I think as an aging population, these services continue to be more and more crucial as we serve our residents.

497
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,580
We take our role in the community very seriously.

498
00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:28,460
We have, of course, like all organizations, a mission and a vision and values, I always put up our vision here.

499
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,780
I think it's the most important thing to me is that we're here to strengthen our community.

500
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,320
Again, we're stronger together and we do more than just serve the patients that come into our building.

501
00:47:37,340 --> 00:47:41,240
We do a lot of work out in the community and we take pride in that.

502
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,660
One of the ways we support our community is we are one of the areas largest employers.

503
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:49,220
So we have a significant economic impact on the Carson Valley.

504
00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:55,500
We employ 641 people. 129 of those are nurses. I always can ask that question.

505
00:47:56,060 --> 00:48:03,540
That does not include the 200 plus physicians that we work with who we contract with to provide services to our community.

506
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:08,900
All that said, those employees contribute about 42 million dollars in payroll.

507
00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:15,920
The money goes into the pockets of your friends and neighbors who live and work here and it goes back into the community through that way.

508
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:22,210
Some things behind the scenes that some people don't always know is we also contribute about

509
00:48:22,210 --> 00:48:26,510
$8 million dollars in uncompensated care as a non-profit organization.

510
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:31,430
We have the privilege and the responsibility of taking care of anybody who walks through our doors that

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00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:34,610
needs emergency or essential health care services.

512
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:38,910
We're proud to do that, but that does come at a cost of about $8 million to the organization.

513
00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:43,470
We also contribute about $1 million in community health improvement initiatives.

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00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:47,630
those are the screenings and discounted services that we provide.

515
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:54,840
Some recent achievements I want to share with you guys, first and foremost we were very proud

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00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,900
to have received to be only one of three hospitals in the state of Nevada to have received

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00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:07,080
the CMS 5 star rating and that is indicative of the work we've done on our quality metrics,

518
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,260
our quality of care, and our patient safety. So we were very proud of the work we've done there

519
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,020
And we hope the community is too.

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00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:17,120
I also want to share something that we've talked a lot about.

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00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:20,640
And I know as one of the reasons we were asked to come speak today is our recent

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00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,680
Level 4 trauma center designation.

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00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:24,860
That occurred last fall.

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00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:28,260
And we are the first in the state of Nevada to achieve that designation.

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00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:31,300
And I want to share a little bit about what that means.

526
00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:39,650
So what it is required of a Level 4 trauma center is to have a system to respond to

527
00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:44,870
traumas can be anything from a fall, with internal injuries, or head injury,

528
00:49:46,970 --> 00:49:47,530
or a motor vehicle

529
00:49:47,530 --> 00:49:54,230
accident, there could be a number of things along those lines. But what we had to go through to

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00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:58,570
become designated is to have a system of response to these traumas with our partners in the field,

531
00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:59,970
so before they come to...

532
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:12,540
Question Valley Health for Care. Have a system within the hospital to address them without delay, and then with other regional facilities where patients may have to ultimately be transferred, if depending on the significance of the trauma.

533
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:21,580
We also had to provide special training to our staff and also provide the right equipment to support these types of care scenarios.

534
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,580
So we've invested in all of those things.

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00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,500
We now have all of our emergency room nurses are trauma certified,

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00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,460
so you will get the same level of care at any time of day

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00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:32,620
that you come into our facility.

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00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,700
We've also invested in some medical imaging technology.

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00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,080
We recently acquired a second CT, which is a

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00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,600
essential piece of imaging equipment in a trauma scenario.

541
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,420
So we have that backup.

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00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,080
And what that is done for our community and our organization is we have seen

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00:50:49,080 --> 00:51:00,960
18% increase in trauma has come through our facility that would have gone elsewhere before, and we've seen a decrease of transfers out of our community hospital. So we are able to keep more patients being cared for locally.

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00:51:04,030 --> 00:51:19,710
So looking ahead, we are working with our partners up at Barton Health for a system wide 10 year facility and strategic plan to determine the best course of action for new facilities and new services for our growing region.

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00:51:19,710 --> 00:51:26,170
that will be coming out in the months to come and we're very excited about some of the opportunities we are exploring.

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00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:36,770
I can share from the Carson Valley Health side that will focus primarily on increased behavior of health services and increased oncology cancer care services.

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00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:39,790
So we're very excited to bring those opportunities forward.

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00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:49,340
And in closing I think we take our responsibility to care for our community very seriously.

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00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:54,140
we are committed to investing in community and we're committed to doing what it takes to keep

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00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:58,760
care-label. That concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions.

551
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:07,980
Wow. You do a lot and very comprehensive and you know I don't know that our community understands

552
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:14,600
it and certainly I know the only time I go to the hospital is when I'm taking my wife generally

553
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:20,020
So, anyways, commissioners, commissioners?

554
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,300
I really love keeping care local.

555
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:27,840
I think that's great and appreciate so much what you do.

556
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,580
As I read through the presentation in preparation,

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00:52:32,060 --> 00:52:33,600
I focused on this statement.

558
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,560
First, critical access hospital in Nevada designated as level four trauma center.

559
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,740
So, I didn't understand what a critical access hospital was.

560
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:46,840
It's why I looked it up, but maybe you would explain.

561
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:47,800
Yes, absolutely.

562
00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:52,760
A critical access hospital is actually a designation from the federal government.

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00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,840
And it is to support hospitals in rural settings,

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,980
who oftentimes have a higher level of overhead than hospitals.

565
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,620
Overhead her volume compared to our more urban hospitals in the state.

566
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,280
And so we do have a different reimbursement structure to support that type of care that we provide.

567
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:26,440
So basically what we know about this is you're the first more rural, maybe phrased, imprecisely, but more user-friendly as the first rural hospital to be a level four trauma center.

568
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:27,620
Yes, perfectly phrased.

569
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:28,020
Okay.

570
00:53:28,660 --> 00:53:40,320
And I just think what this means to us is shorter time if there's an accident or incident here, shorter time between that and getting treatment, which is

571
00:53:41,820 --> 00:53:50,340
by it's very nature life saving and so this is a very exciting and it represents a lot of hard work

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00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:56,880
by everyone including all the nurses who had to do the additional training and just everyone in your organization

573
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,580
and it's just great. So thank you.

574
00:53:59,940 --> 00:54:10,200
Thank you. Yes, and any sort of emergency but particularly trauma is minutes matter, seconds matter, and so to your point all of this work is really advancing the level of care that we can provide.

575
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,580
Thank you for those comments.

576
00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:21,740
So you'd mention the expansion and the increase in mental health and since we have suicide

577
00:54:21,740 --> 00:54:25,860
prevention here today and I could maybe split. Can you elaborate on that and there's also

578
00:54:25,860 --> 00:54:30,620
you doing work, but I'm not sure the success is in your youth mental health services.

579
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:31,860
So could you touch that?

580
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:38,220
Yeah, absolutely. Currently we have outpatient, behavioral health services both for all

581
00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:44,280
and then we have a specific geriatric program, that clinic, that service is very, very busy.

582
00:54:44,860 --> 00:54:50,140
We continually work to recruit providers to take care of the needs in our community.

583
00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:56,880
One thing I didn't mention is Carson Valley Health was a recent recipient of some of the rural health transformation funds,

584
00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:59,960
and what we will be using a portion of that for.

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,220
Here is to recruit more behavioral health providers amongst other types of providers, but really focusing on behavioral health

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00:55:07,220 --> 00:55:13,020
therapists and providers to come in and do that hard work for us. So that's one thing. It's a service line we

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00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:18,240
already offer. What we're looking at in the expansion plan is to continue to build upon that service,

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00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:24,040
but also add an inpatient behavioral health unit. So if patients do need to be admitted, we can offer them

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00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,460
specialized care.

590
00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:26,960
Thank you.

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00:55:30,610 --> 00:55:31,250
This is Rogers.

592
00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:36,270
So I know that our Sheriff's Department has a collection point.

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00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:40,130
Is it collection point for unused and expired medications?

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00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:43,890
Do you offer those same services at your hospital?

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00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:44,650
We do.

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00:55:44,770 --> 00:55:47,490
We do have a collection box outside of our emergency room.

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00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:50,380
So it's available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

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00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:53,550
And it is in conjunction with the Sheriff's Office.

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00:55:54,590 --> 00:56:04,830
So I think that's an important thing to highlight for our residents who have, you know, as our population ages, we may have unused or expired medications.

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00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:08,450
Please do not dispose of those improperly.

601
00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:12,310
They need to be disposed either at the Sheriff's Department or at Carson Valley Health, right?

602
00:56:12,690 --> 00:56:15,370
Is that a service exist also at your clinics?

603
00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:16,510
It does not.

604
00:56:16,510 --> 00:56:22,510
is there's some very specific regulations around that so we do want to keep in our 24 hour location

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00:56:23,230 --> 00:56:28,100
that's monitored. Very good. So I hope our public is picking up on that idea. So thank you.

606
00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:32,010
Any other questions, commissioners? Commissioner Rice, I know you're in the hospital.

607
00:56:34,310 --> 00:56:39,340
Not in this hospital, but you're in that sort of any observations or questions for

608
00:56:39,340 --> 00:56:50,340
is Rogers? No, I just wish that our county insurance covered me to go to local care centers,

609
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:54,260
but that's another story and I'm not going to go and do it.

610
00:56:56,210 --> 00:57:02,090
But I think this video is here today, just socially zeroing that. So yeah, thank you. Okay.

611
00:57:02,770 --> 00:57:07,310
If there's no other questions or comments or observations, thank you very much for your

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00:57:07,310 --> 00:57:11,290
presentation and hopefully we can do this on a little bit more often basis.

613
00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:12,790
I look forward to that.

614
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:14,530
As things change down there.

615
00:57:14,670 --> 00:57:14,770
Yeah.

616
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:15,970
Thank you.

617
00:57:16,090 --> 00:57:16,410
Thank you.

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00:57:16,530 --> 00:57:17,390
What you bring to the community.

619
00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:22,770
So five minute break.

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00:57:24,490 --> 00:57:25,410
Quick break.

621
00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:27,530
Let's take a five minute break.

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00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:28,570
Go come back at.

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00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:30,230
I have 11.

624
00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:30,610
11.

625
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:34,050
Okay.

626
00:57:35,070 --> 00:57:35,330
Great.

627
01:06:59,660 --> 01:07:09,260
All resources out of it. So that's why we wanted to secure funding before entering this county to make sure that we are not trying to pull any resources or dollars out of the community.

628
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:19,700
But most importantly, we need people. We need adults who are willing to say, I have a little time to give and I'm willing to make a big difference in the life of the young person.

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01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:28,400
You don't have to be a perfect role model. You don't have to have all the answers. You just have to be willing to show up, be consistent, listen, and care.

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,020
That's what being a big is really about.

631
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:36,080
So today I want to thank the commissioners and the many community leaders who have already

632
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,940
welcomed us back in our helping champion this effort.

633
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,860
And I want to extend an invitation to everyone in Douglas County if you've ever thought about

634
01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:47,000
mentoring a young person now as the time.

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01:07:47,420 --> 01:07:51,400
We are actively recruiting big brothers and big sisters and we would love to have you join us

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,700
in the power of mentorship back in Douglas County.

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01:07:54,700 --> 01:08:04,940
We're excited to be back. We're excited about the partnerships. We're building and most importantly. We're excited about the young people whose lives will be impacted because adults in this community chose to step up.

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:11,340
Thank you for welcoming big brother's big sisters back to Douglas County. We look forward to be in part of this community for many.

639
01:08:13,550 --> 01:08:14,810
I'm happy to answer any questions.

640
01:08:15,110 --> 01:08:17,650
Thank you. Commissioner's questions. Commissioner Rice.

641
01:08:20,270 --> 01:08:27,870
Yes, one thing I didn't hear mentioned is the facilities that they have and how they acquired

642
01:08:27,870 --> 01:08:28,390
definitely.

643
01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:34,110
You might be referring to Boise and Girls Club, big brothers, big sisters, only has one facility

644
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:37,770
and we are located in Reno, Nevada on Mill Street.

645
01:08:38,610 --> 01:08:44,630
Okay, mine is not understanding because we just open a Boise and Girls Club over or off of

646
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:45,270
the Assurance.

647
01:08:46,150 --> 01:08:53,550
Yeah, separate agencies, but we are partnered with Boise and Girls Club throughout the community and across the country.

648
01:08:53,730 --> 01:08:55,510
Okay, thank you.

649
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:58,100
Sure.

650
01:08:59,820 --> 01:09:02,700
I figured you didn't want to get bigs.

651
01:09:03,540 --> 01:09:06,340
The first question is what is it, what's the commitment?

652
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,300
Yeah, the commitment over what review what that is and then what's the process to become a big?

653
01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:11,540
Yep.

654
01:09:11,540 --> 01:09:37,480
Yeah, so the commitment to be a big is four to six hours a month and you commit to at least one year in the program right now our program is recognized as one of the top one percent in the country among 240 other big brothers big sisters for our quality in our impact, which means that we are keeping our matches together on average for four years, but we're asking for volunteers when they sign up to commit to four to six hours a month and what we call two a minimum of two match outings.

655
01:09:37,480 --> 01:09:42,080
So you're spending time with your little every other week for a couple hours each month,

656
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:47,300
for a minimum of one year. The process for signing up to become a big is if you go to our website,

657
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,420
there's a link at the top that says, become a big. You click on that, you'll

658
01:09:51,420 --> 01:09:57,100
an inquiry in my staff will contact you within 24 hours. You'll complete a orientation and

659
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:59,960
interview from a little background check and...

660
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,920
Training before you're enrolled into the program.

661
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:12,620
And what if I have over committed by time now, but I know that somebody might be a good mentor?

662
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,580
How do I get them involved?

663
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,900
Yep, there's also a link on our website called nominate a big.

664
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:21,220
And so you can click on that and you can nominate anybody to be a big.

665
01:10:21,460 --> 01:10:24,880
And honestly, that's our biggest success rate of how we recruit bigs.

666
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:29,840
So 60% of the people that are nominated to become a big actually fall through in the process

667
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,660
Because what you'll do when you thought you're nominated a big form is you're going to tell why you think that other person is a big

668
01:10:35,660 --> 01:10:43,640
So then we're going to call that individual and explain to them who nominated them and why and once they see that somebody else believes that they can have an impact

669
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,720
They're more likely to sign up to become a big

670
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:54,490
Well, you know, I was just going to make it. So you don't have to be as big as he is to do this, right?

671
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:59,610
Yeah, our youngest our youngest big is 18 and our oldest big is 84

672
01:10:59,610 --> 01:11:02,710
So it's a wide range of individuals that sign up.

673
01:11:03,070 --> 01:11:06,610
So there's not like a prototypical big brother or big sister out there.

674
01:11:06,670 --> 01:11:11,830
It's anybody who has the time and is willing to give back and spend time with the young person in the community.

675
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:20,240
I just want to clarify, when you say four to six, you're saying four, two, six, not 46.

676
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:23,740
Yes, four to six hours a month.

677
01:11:24,140 --> 01:11:28,220
So you're spending time with your little maybe twice a month for a couple hours each time.

678
01:11:28,220 --> 01:11:34,540
And I just want to note that a few years ago, which is probably a few, actually more than a few,

679
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:42,180
as time is accelerating, but I did serve as a mentor for a couple of high school girls one after

680
01:11:42,180 --> 01:11:55,120
the other. And it was there was not a process or an organization in place that made it easy to do.

681
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:10,300
So while I had the desire, I had to work hard to put it in place, and so I'm really, really pleased that this is that you are here and that Commissioner Tolbert has worked to bring you here.

682
01:12:10,580 --> 01:12:17,340
And I'm excited for the good that you will do. You slash we will do because I will nominate some bigs.

683
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:21,360
Wonderful. Maybe eventually be a big. Maybe in about four and a half years.

684
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:43,720
Hello. Wonderful. We're excited to be here and thank you so much. Yes, and all who are spare time, right? So, yeah. So, okay. Very good. If no other questions, Danny. Okay. Thank you so much for coming in and thank you for bringing this program to Douglas County. Very important. Yeah. Thank you for having me.

685
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:52,430
Okay. Don't overlook that folks. If you're looking for something to do in our county.

686
01:12:53,730 --> 01:13:02,310
We'll go to item 12.1 for presentation only, introduction of ordinance 2026-1672, an ordinance

687
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:08,950
creating chapter 20.850 of the Douglas County Code pertaining to art in public places, and

688
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:18,230
a zoning text amendment to section 20.660.050 in of the Douglas County Code decategorizing

689
01:13:18,230 --> 01:13:25,250
murals as a use of community significance. This is the first reading, but brought by community

690
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:32,130
services director of Raqadi. And joined by Mr. Art Community Development Director, Tom Dolare.

691
01:13:33,250 --> 01:13:37,690
Good morning, Raqadi Community Services Director. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to

692
01:13:37,690 --> 01:13:46,750
talk about to present the first reading of the title 20 art code. This was a joint effort by community

693
01:13:46,750 --> 01:13:53,950
services, community development, AJ Hames from the DA's office, the town of Minden, the town

694
01:13:53,950 --> 01:13:56,750
of Genoa, Main Street, Gardnerville, Carson Valley Arts Council.

695
01:13:56,750 --> 01:14:01,550
We all came together and reviewed this, and it's been in the works for quite some time

696
01:14:01,550 --> 01:14:09,890
as a result of the approval of the public art plan, which happened in 2023, and so we are

697
01:14:09,890 --> 01:14:13,970
happy to be able to bring this forward, and I will come back, I think the first meeting in

698
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:19,270
and do a full presentation, but I'm happy to answer any questions if there are some.

699
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:27,840
I do have one just to clarify because there's been the public comment out there.

700
01:14:30,220 --> 01:14:34,180
So the co-incidence of the time with the mural at the Arts Center.

701
01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:38,420
So that actually went through the existing process to be done,

702
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,800
which even highlighted more of the need for this,

703
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,580
is that correct. I just want to make sure we will this isn't trying to go fix something that

704
01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:50,700
was already done. This is that one went through the proper channels that are in place in

705
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:51,980
our trying to improve those channels.

706
01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:59,860
Brooke A. D. Community Services Director. Yes, thank you for the question. Creating a public art

707
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:25,460
Code in title 20 has been something that has been talked about for several years. This has been in the works for at least the last year with the individuals that I have identified. Creating a program moving forward for how you get murals and public art. The mural at the community art center went through the existing, what is entitled 20 today, process through a special use permit.

708
01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:29,920
We went to the Planning Commission, we went to the board town board of Minden,

709
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,940
we went through all of the appropriate steps as identified in the code today. This is setting

710
01:15:34,940 --> 01:15:42,460
new standards moving forward. Yeah, and so what I would like to say in that regard is

711
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:50,100
this is something that I recognized when I first became a commissioner in 2021 and started talking

712
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:56,300
with the folks with being street gardenerville in the Chamber of Commerce in discovering that our

713
01:15:56,300 --> 01:16:03,780
mural ordinance is tied up in our sign ordinance in title 20. And I've been trying to work on this

714
01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:10,580
for six years now, I often say that government works slower than a sloth covered in molasses

715
01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:17,260
in the dead of winter, okay. But this is finally coming and I'm so glad to see it. And yes,

716
01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:24,160
the timing is very coincidental as nothing to do with that. So anyways, I'm glad that we're

717
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:31,780
finally separating that out. It's so I look forward to the actual ordinance coming to us

718
01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:37,960
in another month or so. So anyways, thank you for finally doing that. Hang in in there, okay.

719
01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:44,900
Thank you. Any other questions, commissioners? Okay. Thank you very much for your

720
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:55,020
on this. Okay, and I stay in your seat. Okay, we're going to go into 12.2 for possible action

721
01:16:55,020 --> 01:17:01,260
discussion to review the Roots and Wings pre-school program at KL Community Center and provide

722
01:17:01,260 --> 01:17:07,360
direction regarding possible changes to the program and peace structure for the 27-28 school year

723
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,160
being brought forward by our Community Service Director for Katie.

724
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,800
Good morning. Thank you again

725
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,020
for allowing me the opportunity to be before you to talk about our roots and

726
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:26,160
wings pre-school program, as Mr. Center stated in public comment, we did have a

727
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,260
meeting earlier this week on Tuesday with our Parks and Record Advisory Board.

728
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,500
And where some direction was given at that time, I'm going to share a lot of the

729
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:38,440
information with you all today that I shared with them.

730
01:17:38,460 --> 01:17:44,900
And then I will let you know what sort of direction and advisement the Parks and

731
01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:51,140
advisory board had given for you guys to then decide how we move for it. So this conversation

732
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:58,960
is about our roots in wings preschool. This is a preschool that is up in our kale community center.

733
01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:04,560
And so a couple things that we're going to talk about today is why this program is so valuable

734
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:11,160
with the financial status of the program is, which is why we what has brought us here today to

735
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:19,360
talk about it. And in talking about the model, there are a number of individuals in the program

736
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,180
who are California residents and so this has come up multiple times where how do we support

737
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:29,360
California residents and what sort of fees do we charge? So I'm going to talk about all of those

738
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,660
things as we go through the presentation.

739
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,800
Commissioners, if you have questions of the city during

740
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,180
the presentation, please go ahead and take the opportunity to do so rather than waiting until the end.

741
01:19:00,790 --> 01:19:02,310
Thank you.

742
01:19:02,490 --> 01:19:11,210
So the Roots and Wings pre-school has been around for over 30 years and it is an extremely

743
01:19:11,210 --> 01:19:18,930
valuable program to the residents up in Douglas County up at the around our care area.

744
01:19:19,790 --> 01:19:27,670
It has provided early learning opportunities to many children in the community, help children

745
01:19:27,670 --> 01:19:33,650
confidence independence it really gets them ready for school. This program does fill a gap in the

746
01:19:33,650 --> 01:19:42,430
Tahoe area. There is no other program like it. It is for primarily three to five year olds and it's

747
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:51,790
goal is to get children ready for preschool. They use a play-day play-based development curriculum.

748
01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:59,970
So everything that they do every day, every activity is very intentional, every toy they have in the facility is intense.

749
01:20:03,660 --> 01:20:20,360
We've heard at the Parks and Record Advisory Board, we had several parents come up and give public comment about the positive impact this program has had on their children who have transitioned. Many of them have multiple children, so they are bringing multiple children through this program.

750
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:35,180
And those that have moved on to kindergarten, they talked extensively about how ready their children were and how they are selling when they finally go into school because of all of the base foundational skills that they've learned in this program.

751
01:20:36,500 --> 01:20:44,060
This program is very clear that it has a community value. Nobody is questioning that.

752
01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:54,200
But what brought us here today was when we started evaluating the cost for the program, the revenue for the program, which is what I'm going to get into a little bit more.

753
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:03,540
But this is a very important very valuable program that has impacted many children for the last 30 years up at the Douglas County area in Staling.

754
01:21:09,390 --> 01:21:16,050
So when the program started it was a county program and then it was a contracted program and then it went back to being a county program.

755
01:21:16,050 --> 01:21:28,670
What was discovered at the time it became a contracted program is that it just really wasn't feasible, then, to be a successful operation as a contracted entity.

756
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:39,590
Historically it had covered all of the expenses for program staff and materials, but there's been a lot of things that have happened over the last few years, which has caused that shift.

757
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:43,710
This is a voluntary part-time pre-school program.

758
01:21:43,890 --> 01:21:48,490
It's primarily intended to introduce children into the classroom setting.

759
01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:53,750
It is different than our kids' club, our rad camps, our before and after school programs,

760
01:21:54,330 --> 01:21:58,590
which are intended to provide support for families as they are working.

761
01:21:59,050 --> 01:22:01,470
This program is three hours a day.

762
01:22:02,190 --> 01:22:07,150
They go 36 weeks out of the year, so they mirror the school calendar.

763
01:22:07,150 --> 01:22:15,150
So it is looking at and providing services to two different kinds of different kind of group than the kids club program.

764
01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:22,830
Over the last 30 years, there has been a decline in population, a young families and school aged kids up at the lake.

765
01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:34,590
I think we see that when we're looking at the school where at one point what tell is able to have a football team and then a few years ago they had six kids graduate as a senior class.

766
01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:41,170
So there has been a decline, which I'll show you in our enrollment and kind of where our enrollment sits.

767
01:22:42,970 --> 01:22:52,830
And over the last couple years, most of the costs is around salaries, and so I'll talk about that, but that is a lot of the cost and the cost for the program has increased.

768
01:22:55,420 --> 01:23:03,220
So, here's a financial overview of where we ended last fiscal year, so I'm talking July 1st,

769
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:13,680
20, 25 through June 30th, 2027. The total program cost was about $222,000, and we brought in about

770
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:24,400
$71,000 in revenue. The program serves on average 13 kids a day. It is licensed for 21 children a day,

771
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,880
And although there are 21 to 24 families enrolled,

772
01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:29,680
they don't all come every day,

773
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,620
so we haven't been able to meet our capacity each day.

774
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,160
There, we do look at the data,

775
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,860
and there probably is about 30% of,

776
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,920
during this year, 30% of the children

777
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,140
were California residents.

778
01:23:42,820 --> 01:23:44,820
This year we have 24 families enrolled

779
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:47,440
in about 11 of them are California residents.

780
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:51,380
So when you look at how much the program costs,

781
01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:58,700
So when we're looking at the $222,000 that is salaries and supplies and materials to operate

782
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:08,780
the program, at the end of the year, the county contributed about $150,000 to this program.

783
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,380
Why did we start talking about this all of a sudden?

784
01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:15,840
The room tax revenues have stabilized.

785
01:24:16,380 --> 01:24:20,340
They are not increasing at the same rate that our salaries are increasing.

786
01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:24,840
And so all of us department heads have been directed to do five year projections.

787
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:39,280
Look ahead, evaluate all of our programs, look and see, are we capturing the revenue that we need to support the programs within our department and so we started looking at the preschool and that's why we are here to assess it.

788
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:47,300
We haven't met our 21 child capacity limit. The revenues aren't coming in to support salary costs.

789
01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:51,320
And so that is why we're having this discussion today.

790
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:55,340
At the end of the last school year, we sent letters to the family saying,

791
01:24:55,480 --> 01:24:59,480
we were going to evaluate the program to see if it was something that was going to continue.

792
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,980
And if it was, maybe we were going to have a later start. And we got a lot of feedback from a lot of parents that were very upset because this is such a treasured program that there wasn't outpouring of support for it. And so what that did, it caused us to sort of hit pause and say, okay, this program is funded for this fiscal year. So July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027. Let's go ahead and operate the program as is this year, because it is funding.

793
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:39,000
And let's look at how we structure the program in future years to help offset some of that cost and versus the inability.

794
01:25:41,900 --> 01:25:50,280
So a couple things that we have done so far to reduce that gap from the amount of revenue that we're bringing in to the cost of the program.

795
01:25:50,280 --> 01:26:00,160
So we adjusted our staffing so we have one preschool director and last year we had three preschool teachers this year.

796
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:07,560
We are going down to two preschool teachers still complies with state licensing requirements. We're still meeting our ratios.

797
01:26:08,180 --> 01:26:11,280
But we have two teachers in the program now.

798
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:21,580
And we're looking to hire some on call staff to be able to bring them in, in case we have a teacher that sicker goes on vacation because we can't go below those two.

799
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,120
We need to be able to keep our ratios.

800
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,920
We've also trained several of our front desk counter staff.

801
01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:34,300
So our preschool teachers are actually a rec leader seniors, which is also what our front counter staff is.

802
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:38,480
So we have trained some of our front counter staff to also fill in if needed.

803
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:43,520
We did launch an enrollment campaign to say, hey, Bruton Wings preschool is open.

804
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:44,360
Please apply.

805
01:26:44,620 --> 01:26:50,980
I think there is a disconnect between our communication and the community out there.

806
01:26:51,020 --> 01:26:53,940
Everybody thinks that this program is full and there's weightless.

807
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:56,780
And so maybe people aren't even trying to get in.

808
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,000
And so we're making some efforts to say, hey, we have a preschool.

809
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:00,780
We are open.

810
01:27:00,860 --> 01:27:01,640
We have capacity.

811
01:27:01,820 --> 01:27:03,500
Please come and sign up.

812
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,320
I'm not sure if we've had any additional kids sign up

813
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,960
Since we've launched that campaign, but we're going to continue to do so.

814
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:19,040
We did have a community meeting with all of the parents of the current children that are enrolled in the program.

815
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:23,080
We met with them to hear their questions, to hear their concerns.

816
01:27:23,900 --> 01:27:28,860
We did do a budget presentation with them to say, hey, here's the status of the room tax.

817
01:27:28,980 --> 01:27:33,220
Here's the different buckets of money that room tax goes into, so they had an understanding of that.

818
01:27:33,220 --> 01:27:43,620
And then we release the survey for two weeks of the preschool families to say, what kind of model works best for your family?

819
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,820
Is it a five day week? Is it a three day week? What kinds of things do you like about the program?

820
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:53,600
Do you dislike about the program? And so I do have some of those survey results here.

821
01:27:54,060 --> 01:28:02,680
So we've really been engaging with the families to say to really help us come up with the solution to continue this program moving forward.

822
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:12,030
So a little bit more about the Roots and Wings program.

823
01:28:12,290 --> 01:28:15,250
It is a licensed preschool for children ages two to five.

824
01:28:15,570 --> 01:28:19,050
We typically take them at three, three to five.

825
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:21,790
They do 36 weeks out of the year.

826
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:24,070
Their program is from nine to 12 in the morning.

827
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:26,910
They do pay $34 a day.

828
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:33,030
We have the capacity for 21 children and it has operated

829
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:35,950
in the community center since about the mid-90s.

830
01:28:36,130 --> 01:28:37,550
The things that parents like the most.

831
01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:41,450
Sorry, Brooke, and how many are California kids?

832
01:28:42,850 --> 01:28:53,350
I right now we have 24 families registered and 11 are California, but I'll go into the breakdown of how many kids we have each day and a couple of future slides.

833
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:54,870
That's okay.

834
01:28:55,850 --> 01:29:00,210
The things that the families really like about this program is that it is three hours a day.

835
01:29:01,410 --> 01:29:06,550
One of the other things that have happened to cause us to look at this program was Douglas

836
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:10,930
County School District opened up a pre-K program at Zebra Cove Elementary School.

837
01:29:11,530 --> 01:29:13,070
And we thought, wow, this is great.

838
01:29:13,450 --> 01:29:18,950
If this program were unable to continue, families have another option, resources are so limited

839
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:24,490
at the lake that we thought if we could really get some families to sign up for the Zebra Cove

840
01:29:24,490 --> 01:29:30,190
program, that would be a really great alternative if we were unable to continue this program.

841
01:29:30,190 --> 01:29:38,070
What we heard from the families is the program at Zefer Cove and the program at Roots and Wings are not apples and apples.

842
01:29:38,350 --> 01:29:39,710
They are different programs.

843
01:29:40,130 --> 01:29:46,850
The program at Zefer Cove Elementary School is really for four and five year olds and it's an all day program.

844
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:50,750
The program at Roots and Wings, we can take three to five year olds.

845
01:29:50,850 --> 01:29:59,970
So it's really that that gap of finding a place for three year olds to go to be able to get some pre school and prepare them for a full

846
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,520
Day, class room, and it's a part day program. It's three hours a day. We did get a lot of feedback from families that they really did not believe that there's three

847
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:15,820
year olds were ready for a full day program. So that's what this program does. It meets that needs for those families.

848
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:24,480
And this is a public operation. So county carries the staffing costs, the licensing, the operating costs, all of those things.

849
01:30:28,350 --> 01:30:34,290
Now, Douglas County does at the Community Center down here in the Valley, we do have a preschool.

850
01:30:34,450 --> 01:30:38,630
It's called Sage Brush Sprouts, but Sage Brush Sprouts operates on a very different model.

851
01:30:39,070 --> 01:30:49,310
This preschool is contracted through the county and they hire their staff, they train their staff, they really operate independently.

852
01:30:50,430 --> 01:30:52,130
So, Roots and Wings?

853
01:30:52,130 --> 01:30:58,050
So the only thing we really provide at Sage Busbals from a county standpoint is the facility.

854
01:30:59,390 --> 01:31:01,510
Do they pay us for the use of that facility?

855
01:31:02,130 --> 01:31:07,750
Yeah. So Sage Busbals is a year-round program and it's a full-day program.

856
01:31:08,050 --> 01:31:13,570
They do have half-day options and they do do some pre-school curriculum,

857
01:31:14,110 --> 01:31:19,350
but they really are a daycare model where roots and wings is a pre-school.

858
01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:21,750
It is just a preschool, they do preschool curriculum.

859
01:31:23,010 --> 01:31:24,730
The way that Sage Brush Browse works

860
01:31:24,730 --> 01:31:26,770
is that we have a contract with them

861
01:31:26,770 --> 01:31:28,050
to operate the program.

862
01:31:28,570 --> 01:31:30,710
County staff does all of the enrollment.

863
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:32,850
We collect all of the funds.

864
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:37,450
And then we give the revenue minus 11%,

865
01:31:37,450 --> 01:31:41,130
we keep 11% of the revenue back to the preschool teacher,

866
01:31:41,330 --> 01:31:43,690
who hires her staff, who pays her staff.

867
01:31:44,230 --> 01:31:46,050
So when you look at this revenue,

868
01:31:46,050 --> 01:31:50,750
The Sage Brush Browse Browse pre-school brought in $193,000.

869
01:31:51,790 --> 01:31:53,350
Last fiscal year.

870
01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:54,390
There's space.

871
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:57,310
Is that model not work up at a bit kale?

872
01:31:57,910 --> 01:32:00,410
I, we could well talk about that in a little bit.

873
01:32:01,090 --> 01:32:04,770
So if you look at the Sage Brush Browse and the amount of revenue they brought in,

874
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:09,890
there are a couple caveats and differences between that program and Roots and Wings.

875
01:32:10,190 --> 01:32:12,890
One is that it's a year-round program.

876
01:32:12,890 --> 01:32:18,130
Roots and Wings does 36 weeks a year, Sage Brush Browse does year round.

877
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:22,910
Two, their spaces bigger so they can hold more children.

878
01:32:23,150 --> 01:32:27,690
They are able to serve more kids because if you look at the rate,

879
01:32:27,710 --> 01:32:29,010
the rate isn't that different.

880
01:32:29,210 --> 01:32:32,830
They do $35 a day for part-time, $40 a day for full-time.

881
01:32:33,010 --> 01:32:35,790
But they do require a five-day a week enrollment,

882
01:32:36,130 --> 01:32:38,670
where Roots and Wings has a minimum of a two-day enrollment.

883
01:32:38,670 --> 01:32:44,170
So, looking at Roots and Wings, it's a program that goes from 9 in the morning till noon.

884
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:50,950
36 weeks out of the school year, $34 a day, and then parents get to select what days they

885
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:56,050
bring their kids as long as it's a minimum of two. But when they enroll, and I say, I wanted

886
01:32:56,050 --> 01:33:00,870
to have my kid come on Tuesday and Wednesday. They're locked into Tuesday and Wednesday, the whole rest

887
01:33:00,870 --> 01:33:05,250
of the year. They can't decide Tuesday, Wednesday, this week, Wednesday, Friday and next week,

888
01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:10,930
their locked into those days. And so at $34 a day the rate that we have

889
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:17,370
$72,000 of revenue was brought in through the county-operated model.

890
01:33:24,700 --> 01:33:28,100
So this is how our enrollment

891
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:35,640
has looked over the last couple of years. So in 23, 24 is when we had a shift where Shelley

892
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,760
who was our preschool director.

893
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,860
She had been doing it since it opened, retired.

894
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,780
We had several staff that left when she left.

895
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,740
And so we've had to sort of rebuild the program.

896
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,240
But if you look at the enrollment,

897
01:33:53,140 --> 01:33:58,480
we are average about 13, 13, 14 kids per day in the program.

898
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:03,340
Even looking back a few years ago, some other things

899
01:34:03,340 --> 01:34:10,540
that have changed since the 23-24 when Shelly retired a lot of her staff with her, we really

900
01:34:10,540 --> 01:34:16,260
struggled to fill those positions because the preschool teacher positions were 19 hour a week

901
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:24,280
positions that don't have any benefits. So we had one preschool director and we had one 29-hour

902
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:32,100
teacher who are running the program. They did an amazing job. They were still able to serve this

903
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:37,780
number of kids. And what we did on the counties end is we said, Hey, we're really struggling with these

904
01:34:37,780 --> 01:34:44,400
19 hour week positions. We need to do something to get a better pull of recruitment. So we combined

905
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:52,760
some 19 hour positions, making 29 hour positions, which now receive benefits. So that cost increased.

906
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:59,880
But we still struggled and we had, it took us a year to hire one of those, it took us a year to hire one of those.

907
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:15,460
Now, where we are, we have two pre-school teachers, a pre-school director, pre-school started today, or no yesterday was the first day, and we're ready to go this year. But over the last couple years, there had been some struggles with staffing,

908
01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:29,980
we did some combination of some positions, and that kind of increased our costs too. But here's a look over history about how many kids we've had in the program.

909
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,780
year after year.

910
01:35:34,150 --> 01:35:39,430
We did some research also on is our rate, how does our rate compare to

911
01:35:39,970 --> 01:35:44,170
other preschools in the county? How does it compare to the state? How does it compare

912
01:35:44,170 --> 01:35:54,290
to national preschool rates? The data that you see on here is from 2022 on the United

913
01:35:54,290 --> 01:35:59,890
States when it is from 2025, but we actually called several preschools in Douglas County and

914
01:35:59,890 --> 01:36:02,810
We're kind of right there with what they are charging.

915
01:36:03,370 --> 01:36:06,330
So it's like the average is about $34 a day,

916
01:36:06,470 --> 01:36:08,370
which is what we're charging right now.

917
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:11,790
So when we're trying to figure out,

918
01:36:11,850 --> 01:36:13,070
are we priced too high?

919
01:36:13,150 --> 01:36:14,750
Are we priced too low?

920
01:36:15,490 --> 01:36:17,350
We're kind of right in the range

921
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:18,990
of where other people are pricing.

922
01:36:19,710 --> 01:36:20,970
It is a little bit difficult

923
01:36:20,970 --> 01:36:23,170
because most of the models that we look at

924
01:36:23,170 --> 01:36:24,670
are daycare models.

925
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:28,550
This is such a unique model that is only preschool

926
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:30,070
for three hours a day.

927
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:42,480
So looking at what we're charging, looking at our capacity that we've

928
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:49,500
had for the preschool, we put together some numbers to say, hey, if the county wanted to

929
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:59,040
needed to recover 80% of the cost and we had 14 kids per day in the program, we would have

930
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,280
charged $60 a day for the families.

931
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:10,860
If you wanted to recover 100% so there have been comments I've heard about California residents

932
01:37:10,860 --> 01:37:18,100
should pay the full price if I believe Mr. Senator referenced this this morning that

933
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:24,960
if we said we have to cover 100% of the cost, yeah the rate would have to be $75 a day.

934
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:30,280
if we continue to be at this 14 average of 14 kids per day.

935
01:37:30,540 --> 01:37:31,880
What's happening right now?

936
01:37:32,060 --> 01:37:34,940
So this year, we did increase the rate by $1,

937
01:37:36,140 --> 01:37:41,560
which is getting us an additional $10,000 in revenue from last year.

938
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,800
So we've been able to lower the cost of the program

939
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,880
by eliminating one staff that by about $40,000.

940
01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:51,220
And we've been able to bring in $10,000 more in revenue

941
01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:53,600
by adjusting the cost by $1.

942
01:37:53,600 --> 01:38:10,060
But here are, if we continue at the pace that we're at with about 14 kids a day, here's some ideas of rates that we need to be charged to determine how much of a county contribution there would be to support the program.

943
01:38:13,070 --> 01:38:20,210
If we were to be at capacity and we were to have 21 children a day in the program, which is the goal,

944
01:38:21,650 --> 01:38:28,250
in order to cover our full cost, which is that $180,000, we would charge $50 a day.

945
01:38:28,670 --> 01:38:34,970
If we wanted to, if we needed to recover 80% of our cost, we could charge $40 a day.

946
01:38:34,970 --> 01:38:47,410
So if we were even at full capacity and charging $34 a day, we would be able to increase our revenue to about $123,000.

947
01:38:48,070 --> 01:38:51,790
So there are a couple of factors that play one is being able to get it capacity,

948
01:38:51,930 --> 01:39:00,950
but two is to be able to find a rate that addresses the amount of funds that the county is contributing to this program.

949
01:39:04,980 --> 01:39:13,060
So Commissioner Gardner had asked about what if we did a private contracting option appear at the lake.

950
01:39:13,940 --> 01:39:22,000
We know that they tried that before and it didn't quite work, but you know it's been 30 years, so is there an opportunity to look at this again?

951
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:30,320
I do have somebody that is interested in a contract option, but let's talk about some advantages and some disadvantages.

952
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:36,960
advantages. Some advantages would be that all of the day-to-day preschool staffing and

953
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,480
recruitment, all of that goes to the contractor.

954
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,020
They would have the contractor with

955
01:39:44,020 --> 01:39:49,780
likely support a different service model, which might look a little bit more like a day

956
01:39:49,780 --> 01:39:55,980
care model with preschool. Really the only way for a private preschool director to make

957
01:39:55,980 --> 01:39:59,980
this possible would be to offer a year-round program a full day.

958
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:12,320
Program, which up at the lake, there are really limited options for programs. The feedback that we got from the families, if we go to a contract model,

959
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:19,840
are they going to have the same teachers? No, they probably won't because the new preschool director will hire their own teachers.

960
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:35,640
Well, we have the same curriculum, maybe, because in the process of negotiating with a contractor we can set some parameters about what type of preschool we would like to see what are the hours, what are the rates.

961
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:40,200
Those are all things that get approved by the county as we go into the contractor.

962
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:44,800
So we would still approve like the tuition and the operating schedule.

963
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:49,580
some disadvantages. We've looked at the history and have said, hey, we've been averaging

964
01:40:49,580 --> 01:40:55,380
about 14 kids a day for a year after year for multiple years. Are there enough, is there

965
01:40:55,380 --> 01:41:04,300
enough demand at the lake to make this a successful model for our private operator? They might

966
01:41:04,300 --> 01:41:12,840
struggle to hire qualified preschool staff. When we're looking at average wages up at the lake for

967
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:19,720
free school, boys and girls club, it's $30 an hour, $25 to $30 an hour. Are they going to be able

968
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:26,600
to hire staff to support that wage? There might be gaps in services with the contract model. So

969
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:32,260
if the contractor decides, well, this isn't working. I need to cancel my contract. You know,

970
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:38,940
then we don't have that service anymore. The preschool director is not required to follow county

971
01:41:38,940 --> 01:41:45,600
hiring processes, but the state licensing board does have requirements that need to be met.

972
01:41:45,740 --> 01:41:46,820
They need to be background check.

973
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:51,200
They have to have certain types of training, but it is different than the county and

974
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,540
so the county would not be involved in that.

975
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:59,040
And then the contractive model would not be able to use county staff as backup.

976
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:04,640
So if they don't have staff that shows up for somebody's sick, right now, we can pull

977
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:09,140
from our front counter to be back up, they don't have that option anymore.

978
01:42:11,620 --> 01:42:18,480
So if there was a contracted position, let's talk about what that process looks like.

979
01:42:18,780 --> 01:42:24,300
So we would have to do a request for proposals, so we would put it out to the public and talk

980
01:42:24,300 --> 01:42:28,360
with people and engage with maybe some already existing preschools.

981
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:37,520
have somebody that's already interested and get formal applications in. So what would happen

982
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:45,060
is if we were to do that now, we would solicit, we would get some applications, we would negotiate,

983
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:52,220
see if there's a good fit. If so, we could potentially go into a contract to start next fiscal year,

984
01:42:52,220 --> 01:42:55,060
or next fiscal year slash school year.

985
01:42:55,340 --> 01:42:57,460
If we're able to do that now,

986
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,600
we'd have to work on like the licensing transition.

987
01:43:01,020 --> 01:43:06,160
We would talk with whoever was submitting an application

988
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,180
through the RFP, we wouldn't negotiate rates

989
01:43:09,180 --> 01:43:12,480
and programs standards and all of that, like I said before.

990
01:43:13,460 --> 01:43:16,620
But there is time to explore an option like this

991
01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:20,340
to see, is there anybody else out there that probably could do this?

992
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:27,560
Here are some results from the survey, so we had 21 individual responses.

993
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:36,180
Now I don't know if that is 10 families with mom and dad or if they're all 21 individual families

994
01:43:37,020 --> 01:43:42,080
because it wasn't an anonymous survey but we did get 21 responses.

995
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:48,440
86% of them set a flexible day selection is very important or essential.

996
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:55,720
So, they like being able to choose, however many days that best work for their families and when you look at the data

997
01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:03,260
Part busy as days are really Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. The majority of the families are enrolled in three days a week and they really like that mid week

998
01:44:04,060 --> 01:44:10,660
90% of them said that they would remain enrolled if a three-day minimum commitment was required

999
01:44:10,660 --> 01:44:14,740
There are a lot of preschools that say you have a five-day minimum

1000
01:44:14,740 --> 01:44:19,660
you pay five days, whether you come all five days or not, there are some that do three-day

1001
01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:26,560
minimums. So right now we have two, so we could look at that sort of model. And six, only

1002
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:32,200
67% said they would be somewhat or very likely to use extended daycare. Most of the families

1003
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:38,140
really appreciate that they can come in the morning, they go home, they have lunch, their kids are

1004
01:44:38,140 --> 01:44:44,720
at home napping, they're not napping in some school location. But the themes that are really

1005
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:49,680
important to hear is that families choose the program for the quality of teachers, their reputation,

1006
01:44:50,420 --> 01:44:55,820
the small class size, and the curriculum. It meets this age group of three year olds,

1007
01:44:56,020 --> 01:44:59,980
it is a part-day program, those are the reasons why they really like it. And the

1008
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:10,740
Some of the other feedback that we got from the survey, there were families that said church California residents more.

1009
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:28,620
There were families that said, you know, a modest increase in our wages or the daily cost would be okay or maybe we make a raise this year and then we sort of do a little bit each year to get us to a certain point.

1010
01:45:28,620 --> 01:45:39,980
The comment that was made previously by Mr. Senator, which we had talked about before about increasing the cost for a gym membership to support this program.

1011
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:49,640
Our gym memberships support the staff, the operator gym, they support the equipment that goes in our gym, our equipment replacement and maintenance.

1012
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:55,100
And so we are looking at doing some increases across the board.

1013
01:45:55,160 --> 01:46:05,920
We're working with our Parks and Rec Advisory Board to come forward and with our fees and charges manual to propose some rate increases because it's been a few years since we've increased our memberships.

1014
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:13,680
But what has happened in those few years, staffing costs of increase, our facilities are getting older, our equipment needs to be replaced and maintenance.

1015
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,220
And so those fees really go to support those types of things.

1016
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:26,020
So where does that leave us after all of the discussion in the public comments and the parent meetings and the survey?

1017
01:46:26,940 --> 01:46:34,000
The Parks and Record Advisory Board said we don't feel comfortable advising on any kind of rate right now

1018
01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:38,100
They did direct staff to say go ahead

1019
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:41,740
Release the RFP. See if there are other interested

1020
01:46:41,740 --> 01:46:45,500
Private operators if there's a way to make this work

1021
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:50,960
We want to go through that process, bring back the results and say here's what we found

1022
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:55,980
is this an option that would work for the families, it works for the community that works

1023
01:46:55,980 --> 01:47:03,360
for the preschool director, and then to come back in January with the results of the RFP,

1024
01:47:03,700 --> 01:47:10,500
they did give us some other things to look into as far as different funding options, one of

1025
01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:14,280
families had said, you know, the kale parking lot during

1026
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,460
4th of July is insanely busy. Why don't we charge that and

1027
01:47:17,460 --> 01:47:20,280
have it go to the preschool? I don't know if all of these

1028
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,940
options are feasible, but these are the suggestions that the

1029
01:47:22,940 --> 01:47:27,640
parents are coming back with to us with. And so the parks and

1030
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,360
record advisory board felt like, you know, there were some

1031
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,240
things that were presented that need to be vetted before we

1032
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,080
can make a decision. And that's where we left the meeting

1033
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:42,460
off on Tuesday and now I'm here before you to provide you with all of this information and answer

1034
01:47:42,460 --> 01:47:44,380
any questions you guys may have.

1035
01:47:46,130 --> 01:47:47,190
Thank you, Miss Edie.

1036
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,020
West did you get all that?

1037
01:47:55,010 --> 01:47:56,490
I'm certainly dead.

1038
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:58,450
I have just a couple of questions.

1039
01:47:58,670 --> 01:48:06,050
Number one, on the California side, if one of our residents goes over there to use one of their

1040
01:48:06,050 --> 01:48:08,930
facilities, do we have to pay more than a resident?

1041
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:10,070
Yes.

1042
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:33,210
Spark 80 community services director. Yes, the South Lake Tahoe community center. We actually took our parks and record advisory board. Last month there for a tour. And that is what we found is they have a different rate for an amount of residents. Well, California residents and non residents. So basically anybody coming in who is not a resident of that area does have to pay a higher rate.

1043
01:48:34,170 --> 01:48:38,750
I think they would agree at appropriate for us, but it was just saying,

1044
01:48:41,740 --> 01:48:43,520
as far as the charging

1045
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:47,840
for parking on the further July, good luck with that one.

1046
01:48:49,580 --> 01:48:51,940
Anyway, no, I got all that.

1047
01:48:51,940 --> 01:48:58,720
I just want to be very cautious that the people at the lake don't see this as another

1048
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:10,860
Well, we're we're we're doing away with programs here and moving them down to the valley and we're not getting our prayers here. I want to really guard against that perception.

1049
01:49:11,700 --> 01:49:13,220
Thank you.

1050
01:49:13,220 --> 01:49:14,560
Thank you, Mr. Rice.

1051
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:15,740
Michelle.

1052
01:49:16,860 --> 01:49:22,440
Do we have any idea of the numbers of kids in terms of potential increases?

1053
01:49:23,860 --> 01:49:30,500
It's because right now we're having an average of how many a day, 14, and it has room for 21.

1054
01:49:31,380 --> 01:49:34,800
It would really help the program if we boosted that to 21.

1055
01:49:35,500 --> 01:49:47,200
Do we have any idea of, I mean, I've heard that the birth rate has increased and that maybe there is a new flock of toddlers

1056
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:52,860
whose parents might be looking for this service. Do we do we know? Are there numbers out there?

1057
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:59,900
I know you said you're trying to get the word out that there are openings, but how's that going?

1058
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,560
And do you have any data?

1059
01:50:03,340 --> 01:50:14,140
Pricatee Community Services Director, I don't have any data right now, but I think that is one of the things that we need to vet to come forward in January and get information on.

1060
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,760
Mr. Senator and his presentation has been able to gather some data.

1061
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:27,980
I will say anecdotally, many of the moms who came to speak at the preschool have children who've come through the program,

1062
01:50:27,980 --> 01:50:33,160
have children that are in the program and have children that are expected to come to the program.

1063
01:50:33,740 --> 01:50:39,640
Many of these families have multiple children and so there are definitely multiple families

1064
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:44,820
that are wanting to bring their kids here in the future. What the number looks like, I can't

1065
01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:50,820
tell you right now. Okay. Then just a couple of quick comments.

1066
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:57,960
I

1067
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:02,280
service services so I would support a change there.

1068
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,500
That said, I really support, I want to support families.

1069
01:51:07,180 --> 01:51:09,440
Families here in the Valley families at the lake.

1070
01:51:10,340 --> 01:51:13,160
So if we end up not recovering every single dollar,

1071
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:14,160
I'm okay with that.

1072
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,180
I want to support families.

1073
01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:18,840
There's there's there's merit.

1074
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:23,600
There are advantages in having young people in our communities.

1075
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,340
And I want to support that.

1076
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:30,520
but appreciate the work you're doing. Thank you. I've got a couple questions, a couple statements.

1077
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:37,120
First of all, it is unfair for us not to charge California more. I think that's been the

1078
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:41,140
view of the board. The problem is that some of them want to drop out, which makes it even more

1079
01:51:41,140 --> 01:51:46,200
difficult for us to to feel those spots. But you can't subsidize California in an expect

1080
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:55,320
Nevada tax period. It won't get any benefit out of it to feel that's okay. But there's going to be

1081
01:51:55,320 --> 01:52:00,540
are so into this program. There's a lot of them that has spoken. I think part of them need to get

1082
01:52:00,540 --> 01:52:05,900
out and promote the program and get out of the kids to come. And that should be a big portion of

1083
01:52:05,900 --> 01:52:09,860
it. This is a problem I have. I agree with everything Commissioner Hell is saying about this

1084
01:52:09,860 --> 01:52:13,520
is an important program. You want to take care of the children this and that. But we're talking

1085
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:20,800
about $145,000 for, you said there's a 24 kids in the program now,

1086
01:52:20,860 --> 01:52:27,860
11 are California, so for 13 kids, the county's spending $145,000 for them out of the

1087
01:52:27,860 --> 01:52:31,440
wrecked parks and wrecks program. How does that compare to other dollars that are being spent

1088
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:36,360
for the parks and wrecks program? And finally, I haven't heard anything from you about

1089
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:42,140
how much money is in the parks and wrecks fund and continue this program, does it dilute

1090
01:52:42,140 --> 01:52:44,240
what we need to be done in those other areas.

1091
01:52:51,850 --> 01:52:56,370
I'm I'm contemplating how to answer which to answer.

1092
01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:57,270
Um,

1093
01:52:59,560 --> 01:52:59,820
okay.

1094
01:53:00,500 --> 01:53:01,780
I wasn't really a question.

1095
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:02,440
Okay.

1096
01:53:02,500 --> 01:53:03,060
Unless you know.

1097
01:53:03,060 --> 01:53:04,480
All good points to look at.

1098
01:53:05,020 --> 01:53:05,940
Thank you.

1099
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,940
So, you know, I had the benefit of sitting in on that meeting

1100
01:53:09,940 --> 01:53:12,060
with the Parks and Rec Advisory Council.

1101
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,480
So, um, one of the things that I took away from that that I didn't have

1102
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:25,160
And I don't think I would have from this meeting that I got from that, is that this program is

1103
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:31,760
specific, and it's comparing it to a preschool is not really what it is.

1104
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:37,580
It's more, like if you consider it in art class, that the county provided in people came into,

1105
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,700
because it's specifically preparing kids for school.

1106
01:53:40,700 --> 01:53:51,620
And the parents are driving the kid to their at 9 o'clock and then hanging around doing whatever and picking them right back up at noon so that they can participate in this program.

1107
01:53:51,760 --> 01:54:08,180
It is not daycare whatsoever. It is a specific specific and there there's one lady was coming from Meyer. So she's driving a couple hours a day for three hours for her kid to come to this program because it is unique and it is very successful.

1108
01:54:09,340 --> 01:54:19,600
in what it does, when the kids come out, they are, you know, evidentially, it's what we've been shown advancing, and ahead of the class when they get into the class. So that's why the parents want to do it.

1109
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:28,680
And the other thing is there's a public perception, and I think because they have wait list, and that was one of the things, well the wait list is not a wait list to get in.

1110
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:36,060
It's more of a reservation for your two-year-old to get in when they're three. And so I think that has gotten out there's like, oh, I've been on the wait list for over a year.

1111
01:54:36,060 --> 01:54:45,700
Well, they've been on the wait list over here to make sure that their three-year-old gets in when they're three, not because it's all full, but, you know, when you, you know, and

1112
01:54:45,700 --> 01:54:50,400
and not to knock our generation, but I do it all that I work with the kids all the time.

1113
01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:56,200
Are the younger generations tend to see a roadblock and stop and say, oh, like, you know, there's a roadblock.

1114
01:54:56,740 --> 01:54:59,960
And so when these things are going out there, they're not looking for, oh, well, if one of the final...

1115
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:19,720
So I think that public perception is something we need to overcome in order to fill these because there are allegedly a lot of parents that would like to get their kids into it, but they haven't even tried because there was a persona that this program is so elite that they can't get their kids in.

1116
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:25,540
So that's another one I think, with we could bust through that, we would probably get more

1117
01:55:25,540 --> 01:55:26,780
and more enrollment as far as that goes.

1118
01:55:27,140 --> 01:55:32,400
But I also really want to make sure we think of it more of a program that we are offering

1119
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,680
that is highly successful in its results.

1120
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:40,620
It's just finding a way to fund it, and I don't know what that exact answer is, and that's

1121
01:55:40,620 --> 01:55:45,180
why I think the advisory board also said, whoa, we want to keep it if at all possible.

1122
01:55:45,180 --> 01:55:52,300
We would like to see if we can find a way to forward to make its cover itself and then if we have to get rid of it

1123
01:55:52,300 --> 01:55:58,280
or cut it as far as the county goes the last resort would be going to a third part of your privatization.

1124
01:55:59,580 --> 01:56:01,100
So that's why I think we're there.

1125
01:56:01,220 --> 01:56:02,920
I think there's a lot of things to vet.

1126
01:56:03,940 --> 01:56:11,580
And maybe that parking thing could be if those parents run it like the school does for the other one.

1127
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:14,560
those of the school people are actually the ones out there

1128
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:15,340
making the work.

1129
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,900
So there's a lot of things to be vetted in that scenario.

1130
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,040
But that's kind of where I want to make sure

1131
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,160
but he kind of got the perception that I was the benefit of

1132
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:30,900
that it's not just a preschool for people to have a place to have their kids

1133
01:56:30,900 --> 01:56:31,380
during the day.

1134
01:56:31,540 --> 01:56:31,820
It's not.

1135
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,540
It is a specific program that they take their kids to

1136
01:56:36,540 --> 01:56:37,680
to benefit their kids.

1137
01:56:37,860 --> 01:56:41,060
It's not a thing of a more like an art program

1138
01:56:41,060 --> 01:56:43,280
or the basketball program or something like that.

1139
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,220
That's a part of Kale and who Kale is.

1140
01:56:46,300 --> 01:56:47,440
So that was on my comment.

1141
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:49,220
OK.

1142
01:56:50,700 --> 01:56:52,740
So first of all,

1143
01:56:57,700 --> 01:56:59,640
I want to say that I concur

1144
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,200
with the Park and Rec recommendations.

1145
01:57:03,700 --> 01:57:05,680
I don't know enough about this program

1146
01:57:06,540 --> 01:57:09,580
to make a lot of judgments at this time.

1147
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:13,640
So I think we need to gather a lot more information.

1148
01:57:14,660 --> 01:57:24,180
But I need to ask the basic question that poses to me is, is this a function of

1149
01:57:24,180 --> 01:57:24,920
county government?

1150
01:57:27,180 --> 01:57:28,680
I think we need to address that.

1151
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:30,360
Is this a function of county government?

1152
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,620
Because I'm not sure it is, okay?

1153
01:57:34,780 --> 01:57:37,600
And should we be involved in a preschool program?

1154
01:57:38,300 --> 01:57:50,780
Commission rice is indicated that we don't want to cut a service that in the lake that is available on the county floor, but we're not offering a preschool in the county floor.

1155
01:57:51,820 --> 01:57:52,840
Okay, it's a different program.

1156
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,220
So it's not like we're doing that.

1157
01:57:59,060 --> 01:58:07,560
So I have to question why this program is if you run by the Douglas County School District who is in the schooling program in the schooling process.

1158
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,120
that's their function.

1159
01:58:10,340 --> 01:58:18,740
So, and I want to also understand, are we a singular program, or is this service be an

1160
01:58:18,740 --> 01:58:22,600
offered in South Lake Tahoe or other research surrounding jurisdictions?

1161
01:58:22,940 --> 01:58:33,460
Is this a program available in Washow County, Lion County, Carson, Story County, those

1162
01:58:33,460 --> 01:58:40,500
only jurisdiction in this area and maybe we need it if they are doing this then maybe we need

1163
01:58:40,500 --> 01:58:46,740
to take a look at their model. But my other thought process is rather than offering it on

1164
01:58:46,740 --> 01:58:54,340
if we're going to offer it as we go into the 2728 budget year. Why do we make it available for five

1165
01:58:54,340 --> 01:59:00,980
days when we only require the kid to be there for three days? Why don't we limit that to Tuesday,

1166
01:59:00,980 --> 01:59:07,680
Wednesday Thursday versus a five-day availability so that we can have the majority, you know,

1167
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:14,060
that's economies of scale, right? Where we are offering the service for Tuesday, Wednesday,

1168
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:20,200
Thursday or whatever the dates may be. If it's three days, or we require a five-day program,

1169
01:59:20,220 --> 01:59:28,140
one of the two, I do concur with what my fellow commissioners are indicating. I believe at least three of

1170
01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:37,340
have expressed it, and I don't know that Commissioner Tolbert disagrees, but the aspect of us,

1171
01:59:37,780 --> 01:59:46,240
Douglas County, Supplementing, the cost of non-nobattle residents, I don't know that that's

1172
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:54,020
fair to our residents. I don't know that that's a proper use of taxpayer dollars. So, I do know that.

1173
01:59:54,020 --> 01:59:59,580
Of course, it's not, it's not a proper use of, you know.

1174
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,300
And we've done that. We've used that model in our warrior way, parking structure with the school district.

1175
02:00:08,300 --> 02:00:15,060
And we say that if you're a, and about a resident, a Douglas County resident, then you don't pay for that fee.

1176
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:23,620
But other people coming from other jurisdictions outside of Douglas County are paying for that fee. So anyways, those are my concerns.

1177
02:00:23,620 --> 02:00:31,460
So I would encourage that we not really necessarily take, I don't know that we have enough information

1178
02:00:31,460 --> 02:00:36,720
on this to really make a motion or do anything on that.

1179
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:41,660
The primary reason I think we put it on here for possible action is to allow the public

1180
02:00:41,660 --> 02:00:48,280
to speak to this item and it's been a robust discussion, a very comprehensive illustration

1181
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:56,080
of the program, but I once again, is this, is this an essential service of Douglas County?

1182
02:00:57,020 --> 02:01:03,780
I don't know. I need to be convinced otherwise. So, can you add a couple of thoughts that have

1183
02:01:03,780 --> 02:01:06,420
occurred to me? Okay.

1184
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:14,570
Or we do need to go public comments. Right. At a cost of 150,000 last year

1185
02:01:14,570 --> 02:01:23,490
My little math exercise shows me that was over $6,000 per child that the county paid over

1186
02:01:23,490 --> 02:01:26,350
in above, you know, what was brought in.

1187
02:01:27,010 --> 02:01:33,110
And if there were 11 California children, that $63,000 that went to non, that this county

1188
02:01:33,110 --> 02:01:40,130
residents, I salute you for seeing this as a problem and trying to solve it because that troubles

1189
02:01:40,130 --> 02:01:41,170
me.

1190
02:01:41,170 --> 02:01:44,390
But I think you're well on your way.

1191
02:01:45,590 --> 02:01:49,150
Regarding the idea of raising revenue on a little uncomfortable with that,

1192
02:01:49,390 --> 02:01:52,370
I'm a little uncomfortable with any one group saying,

1193
02:01:53,330 --> 02:01:56,710
Oh, so the county's considering cuts to our program,

1194
02:01:56,850 --> 02:02:02,190
therefore we want to devise ways to bring an income that help just us.

1195
02:02:02,450 --> 02:02:04,430
I'm uncomfortable with that.

1196
02:02:05,110 --> 02:02:08,850
That's not to say good ideas might generate revenue,

1197
02:02:08,850 --> 02:02:16,290
and maybe we should do them, but I'm uncomfortable with one special interest group, figuring

1198
02:02:16,290 --> 02:02:24,450
out a revenue source and claiming it as their own. So I really like the idea of recruiting

1199
02:02:24,450 --> 02:02:29,650
and filling up, or if we have to, cut back to three days a week, and families would have to

1200
02:02:29,650 --> 02:02:38,210
adjust to whatever three days you were able to move to to get the program more cost neutral,

1201
02:02:38,210 --> 02:02:42,890
not that it has to be completely that way, but thanks for letting me out those additional.

1202
02:02:43,450 --> 02:02:46,850
It seems like you're here for our thoughts, so those are my thoughts.

1203
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:51,340
Okay, any other questions before we go to public comment?

1204
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,120
Okay, let's go to public comment.

1205
02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:07,020
Jim Jackson, I'll share the title of Grinch with you, Grinch Degarner.

1206
02:03:08,220 --> 02:03:10,600
I'll share the title of Grinch with you.

1207
02:03:12,350 --> 02:03:16,850
The program may be a very important program to a very few number of people.

1208
02:03:16,850 --> 02:03:21,870
I relate back to when our son was in this position.

1209
02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:27,070
We found a very good private school for him to go to.

1210
02:03:27,410 --> 02:03:29,510
A very expensive private school.

1211
02:03:30,650 --> 02:03:32,110
We knew that going into it.

1212
02:03:32,490 --> 02:03:34,330
County wasn't paying for it.

1213
02:03:34,430 --> 02:03:35,850
We paid for it.

1214
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:41,490
But you have a problem of very few students in a very large cost

1215
02:03:41,490 --> 02:03:46,110
and you're not going to get the two to come together from what I see of this.

1216
02:03:46,110 --> 02:03:51,950
by the time you start charging enough to either California residents which should actually charge more,

1217
02:03:54,230 --> 02:04:00,730
they'll start finding other alternatives. If you set the price it hears where it needs to be,

1218
02:04:00,970 --> 02:04:07,370
to maintain this, they're all going to say it costs way too much money. Well, that's up to them

1219
02:04:07,370 --> 02:04:14,470
to decide is it worth it for their kids or not. That's an individual choice. It's not something

1220
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:16,770
that I think the county can answer.

1221
02:04:17,770 --> 02:04:22,910
We hear constantly, the county does not have enough money to provide things to the rest

1222
02:04:22,910 --> 02:04:29,250
of the county, roads, flood control, all those different things that benefit a large number

1223
02:04:29,250 --> 02:04:29,870
of people.

1224
02:04:31,950 --> 02:04:37,610
So, here we have a very few number of people getting a fairly large amount of money.

1225
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:42,030
And like you were saying, they think it's their revenue source.

1226
02:04:42,030 --> 02:04:51,850
Now it's not. It's the revenue source for the whole county. It's a tough decision to make but I think it needs to be looked at more on a business side.

1227
02:04:53,090 --> 02:04:59,370
What do you need to charge to provide this service? And if we can't charge that much, then that service can't be provided.

1228
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:04,320
That's tough saying, but that's just the way it happens to be.

1229
02:05:05,980 --> 02:05:16,660
I don't know what your solution's going to be, but I do think that you have to consider, is it a county government function to do this, or is it a school board function?

1230
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:23,180
School boards got its own problems. They're closing schools because they don't have enough money.

1231
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:29,540
The population is getting older in the county, not younger, and everything.

1232
02:05:29,780 --> 02:05:34,800
So I don't think you can look at future enrollment as going up.

1233
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:35,600
I don't know.

1234
02:05:35,820 --> 02:05:39,700
Like you said, we don't have enough information to really make any decisions on it at this

1235
02:05:39,700 --> 02:05:40,120
point.

1236
02:05:41,500 --> 02:05:46,240
But I think it needs to be considered like you were saying, is it a county function first

1237
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:47,580
and foremost?

1238
02:05:47,740 --> 02:05:50,200
If it's not, then the county's out of it.

1239
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:55,780
if it is, then you got to figure out how to get more out of the people benefiting from it directly.

1240
02:05:58,130 --> 02:05:58,780
Thank you.

1241
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:10,540
Good afternoon, Nile Woller. I wasn't going to comment today, but it's interesting how this

1242
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:21,290
is playing out and it sounds like it's an exceptional model for maybe a contractor that needs to

1243
02:06:21,290 --> 02:06:32,150
explore a business. We've discussed and it was an exceptional presentation, Brooke. Honestly,

1244
02:06:32,430 --> 02:06:41,930
it's got to be a hard decision. This is also precedent setting for future issues that might

1245
02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:49,630
come to this county. I'm deep in the Barton process and there's recommendations to use our

1246
02:06:49,630 --> 02:06:53,130
transit center for a potential parking for them.

1247
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:54,910
So it's the same kind of thing.

1248
02:06:55,190 --> 02:07:00,650
If this county continues to be brought forward with issues

1249
02:07:01,650 --> 02:07:11,430
that benefit some of the aspects of families in any kind

1250
02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:15,990
of arena and the budget challenges continue,

1251
02:07:16,310 --> 02:07:18,690
we do need to make some hard decisions

1252
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:21,890
and it starts with this one. Thank you.

1253
02:07:23,460 --> 02:07:25,240
Thank you. Additional public comment?

1254
02:07:27,550 --> 02:07:30,190
See, no additional public comment or bring it back to the board.

1255
02:07:33,650 --> 02:07:36,150
Additional comments, questions, observations.

1256
02:07:37,650 --> 02:07:42,270
We don't, we're not required to even know it's possible action.

1257
02:07:42,490 --> 02:07:43,890
It's as possible action.

1258
02:07:43,890 --> 02:08:14,580
I think, if there's no motion, I think you've the city gotten some direction from us in regards to that, and you've gotten direction from the Parks and Rec to Advisory Council as well, and so I guess we need to expect you back at a later date to discuss how you feel the program needs to go and your observations or suggestions.

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02:08:15,460 --> 02:08:16,320
Is that right?

1260
02:08:17,060 --> 02:08:17,140
Yes.

1261
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:17,800
Okay.

1262
02:08:18,700 --> 02:08:19,020
With that.

1263
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,000
Thank you very much.

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02:08:20,300 --> 02:08:21,140
We appreciate it.

1265
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,460
And go forth and see what you can find out.

1266
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:29,080
We're going to take a quick break.

1267
02:08:29,140 --> 02:08:30,000
We're going to come back.

1268
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:35,340
And we're going to go ahead and do the county managers and your performance evaluation.

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02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:38,160
And then we'll take a break for lunch.

1270
02:08:38,380 --> 02:08:38,800
Thank you.

1271
02:12:51,340 --> 02:12:51,900
Okay.

1272
02:12:53,980 --> 02:13:06,140
It is 12.15. I'm going to reconvene the meeting. At this time, we're going to go into the item 13

1273
02:13:06,140 --> 02:13:15,040
for possible action, which is the annual performance review of our county manager. And we've made

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02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:34,260
decision as a board of commissioners today. We will maintain our time frame as we will not hear the item on knocks until too, but we are we've concluded that we are going to not go to jail today.

1275
02:13:35,580 --> 02:13:40,940
Okay, we're going to postpone that for a future date to be determined.

1276
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:51,940
So anyways, with that we'll go in, so we'll do this item and then we're going to take a break until two o'clock and we'll resume our meeting at two o'clock.

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02:13:52,600 --> 02:14:03,680
So item 13 for possible action, conduct the annual performance evaluation of the county manager, Jennifer Davidson, including the grantee.

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02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:17,040
including the granting of a merit pay and setting additional goals, expectations, or priorities for the county manager and addition to those currently identified in Douglas County's strategic plan.

1279
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:26,020
Notice requirements consistent within RS chapter 2, 41 regarding the discussion of Ms. Davidson's character and competence have been provided to her.

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02:14:26,020 --> 02:14:34,580
This is being presented by our Human Resources Director, Christine Vito, and Mr. Davidson.

1281
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:36,620
Christine.

1282
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:40,860
Chairman Gardner, Members of the Commission, Christine Vito, Human Resources Director

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02:14:40,860 --> 02:14:41,540
for the record.

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02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:46,320
The item before you is the annual Performance Evaluation of County Manager, Jennifer Davidson,

1285
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:50,220
who completed her third year in the role on June 10, 2026.

1286
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:55,280
Under her employment agreement, the board is required to review and evaluate her performance

1287
02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:59,960
annually. The required notice regarding the board's discussion of her character and competence has...

1288
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:13,980
The Board may also consider a merit pay increase based on our performance in the meeting. I'm sorry, in meeting the goals, priorities and expectations established for the prior year.

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02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:22,220
Consistent with the amount available to other exempt management employees, the Board may award a merit increase of up to 3%.

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02:15:22,220 --> 02:15:31,480
Performance is evaluated based on county's organizational values of integrity, accountability, customer service, leadership, communication, teamwork and respect.

1291
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:45,380
Your materials include Ms. Davidson's summary of accomplishments and update on the county strategic plan for employment agreement and county performance evaluation form in policy.

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02:15:46,800 --> 02:16:00,880
I also provided as supplemental a survey that was conducted in 2024 by Washow County Human Resources of county and city managers in Nevada.

1293
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:09,860
I have not been provided the updated report for 2026. They do do this on a buy annual basis.

1294
02:16:11,060 --> 02:16:14,060
So this is the most recent information that I've been provided.

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02:16:14,860 --> 02:16:19,240
With that, this item is before the board for discussion and possible action.

1296
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:21,620
Thank you.

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02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:24,300
You have a presentation, Ms. Davidson.

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02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:27,260
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission.

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02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:31,620
I don't have a presentation today, but I do have a few brief comments for your consideration

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02:16:31,620 --> 02:16:33,740
before we have a discussion.

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02:16:35,620 --> 02:16:38,960
Thank you for the opportunity to discuss my performance evaluation today.

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02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,840
This past year has been one of the most demanding of my 19 year professional career.

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02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:52,120
But it is also reinforced my commitment to leading this organization with integrity, accountability, and a focus on continuous improvement.

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02:16:53,300 --> 02:17:01,860
Before I touch on our operational priorities, I want to pause and explicitly acknowledge and think that apartment heads and leadership teams sitting in the audience today.

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02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:07,760
I'm deeply grateful for your presence, your support, and your daily dedication to this community.

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02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:19,940
I would describe our efforts this year as a whole lot of heavy lifting and a whole bunch of collaboration and I could not do my job without them.

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02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:29,240
To the board, I want to assure you that the feedback guidance and direction you provide during this evaluation today will not rest on my shoulders alone.

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02:17:29,900 --> 02:17:35,960
It is heard directly by the leaders of this organization and together we will act upon it.

1309
02:17:35,960 --> 02:17:42,440
As detailed in my written review, our organization achieved critical milestones this past year.

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02:17:43,180 --> 02:17:46,700
Together we broke ground on the Justice Center on time and under budget.

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02:17:47,300 --> 02:17:52,680
Delivered a balanced operating budget despite projected revenue shortfalls without cutting core services

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02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:57,100
and expanded inclusive community infrastructure across this county.

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02:17:57,960 --> 02:18:02,360
These successes reflect the resilience and professionalism of our exceptional workforce.

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02:18:02,360 --> 02:18:07,700
At the same time, meaningful leadership requires confronting missteps with humility.

1315
02:18:08,660 --> 02:18:18,020
The feedback I received regarding the proposed stormwater utility rates demonstrated that our communication and processes fell short of expectations of both the board and the public.

1316
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:22,060
I accept full responsibility for my role in that process,

1317
02:18:22,740 --> 02:18:30,480
recommending that we pause together further input and support the creation of the stormwater task force because it was the right path forward.

1318
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:37,540
That experience highlighted our most critical opportunity for growth, modernizing public engagement

1319
02:18:37,540 --> 02:18:39,440
and building public trust.

1320
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:46,080
Municipal decisions often carry extensive background history and technical context, placing

1321
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:51,360
the responsibility squarely on us to bring residents up to speed early and clearly.

1322
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:58,260
Moving forward, my focus is to embed proactive transparency into our daily operations, explaining

1323
02:18:58,260 --> 02:19:03,760
the reasoning behind staff recommendations, making financial data accessible, and clearly

1324
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:08,440
demonstrating how public feedback shapes policy before final votes occur.

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02:19:09,880 --> 02:19:14,780
Internally, we will continue refining our workflows, breaking down department silos, and

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02:19:14,780 --> 02:19:19,100
advancing key priorities like Mueller Parkway and the public safety radio task force.

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02:19:20,580 --> 02:19:25,280
I remain fully dedicated to leading this organization in alignment with our core values,

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02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:32,620
integrity, accountability, customer service, communication, leadership, teamwork, and respect.

1329
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:38,520
Thank you for your continued partnership and leadership. And trust, I look forward to our

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02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:39,520
discussion today.

1331
02:19:42,630 --> 02:19:43,490
Thank you, Mr. Davidson.

1332
02:19:46,350 --> 02:19:49,490
I think what we probably need to do is

1333
02:19:52,130 --> 02:19:57,630
go commission right commissioner, like we did last year and you could give your input and feedback

1334
02:19:57,870 --> 02:19:59,910
and then after

1335
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,980
We have that discussion, didn't we should go to public comment, allow public comment, and then we come back and discuss further action. Okay, everybody give it that. I don't know who wants to start. I, you always get seem to be put in the position of starting because you're down on a other end for me, but I don't want you to feel compelled to do that. Commissioner Rice, who would like to lead us off today on this discussion?

1336
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:34,300
I would be more than happy, too, okay. Thank you.

1337
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:44,660
All right. I heard comments comparing her salary to that of a neighboring county.

1338
02:20:45,500 --> 02:20:50,940
And my first question to myself was, would I trade county managers?

1339
02:20:50,940 --> 02:21:03,820
And my opinion was not only no Bethelno, and one of the things that I have delighted in seeing

1340
02:21:03,820 --> 02:21:20,880
I'm losing words, one of the things that I am constantly being reminded of is that when

1341
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:25,340
Jennifer sees a problem, she tackles in.

1342
02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:34,060
If that problem becomes a bigger problem, she doesn't internalize it and take it personally,

1343
02:21:34,060 --> 02:21:41,440
She falls back, regroups, looks at it again, and then comes up with a better answer.

1344
02:21:42,800 --> 02:21:44,620
I admire that in her.

1345
02:21:45,340 --> 02:21:56,320
I admire that in anybody, but she has shown me that she's capable of doing that on far more

1346
02:21:56,320 --> 02:22:03,580
of one occasion. As far as any criticism I have ever,

1347
02:22:07,140 --> 02:22:11,200
we, she's not responsible for civil

1348
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:19,740
suits against the county, and I think that anybody that has followed this process understands

1349
02:22:19,740 --> 02:22:23,360
that she's not the problem, the problem of my elsewhere.

1350
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:28,120
And I give her climax.

1351
02:22:29,720 --> 02:22:38,000
She has always kept me informed and issues they're going on.

1352
02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:43,100
And has never let me down the wrong path.

1353
02:22:44,100 --> 02:22:47,640
So I give her glowing remarks.

1354
02:22:49,480 --> 02:22:57,420
And I wouldn't trade her for any county manager that I'm aware of and thank you for that.

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02:23:03,690 --> 02:23:06,250
Thank you, Mr. Rice, that concludes your comments.

1356
02:23:07,350 --> 02:23:12,890
I mean, I'm not precluding the fact that you want may one have later comments, but okay.

1357
02:23:13,410 --> 02:23:14,430
I will have later comments.

1358
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:19,970
I just want to touch you off if you had other things you wanted to say at this time.

1359
02:23:19,970 --> 02:23:39,830
No, that's it. Thank you. Commissioner Hills. Yes, I'm ready. And I've a lot to say. So settle in. I'm using the county manager performance evaluation template that I believe is consistent with other employees evaluation in the organization.

1360
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:43,550
And that is focusing on the core values.

1361
02:23:44,650 --> 02:23:45,930
So starting with integrity,

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02:23:46,170 --> 02:23:48,730
the employee demonstrates honest and ethical conduct

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02:23:48,730 --> 02:23:51,210
through their actions at all times.

1364
02:23:51,890 --> 02:23:52,830
Ethics is one of...

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02:23:54,690 --> 02:23:56,990
Ms. Davidson's strongest characteristics.

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02:23:58,070 --> 02:24:00,130
She is extremely knowledgeable,

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02:24:00,670 --> 02:24:02,970
and she aligns her actions with her knowledge

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02:24:02,970 --> 02:24:04,510
and her commitment to integrity.

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02:24:05,190 --> 02:24:08,770
She personally leads the annual Ethics Training

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02:24:08,770 --> 02:24:17,750
And in her daily conduct, I have heard many times where she pauses to say, okay, do I have

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02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:22,510
an ethical conflict and let me articulate it and works through it immediately when something

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02:24:22,510 --> 02:24:24,810
comes up because it's constantly on her radar.

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02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:32,030
So excellent in the integrity category, accountability, the employee accepts responsibility

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02:24:32,030 --> 02:24:33,550
for their actions.

1375
02:24:34,130 --> 02:24:40,910
And I'm going to add to that, accepts responsibility for the well-being of the whole county because that's what her job is.

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02:24:41,370 --> 02:24:44,170
And I see that every day.

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02:24:45,430 --> 02:24:51,710
One example is she had planned a family vacation, which is important for her to do.

1378
02:24:52,270 --> 02:24:59,970
And while she was gone, it became evident that we would have an opportunity as a county.

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To provide testimony to a Senate committee, Senate committee, about the lands bill, and she cut her vacations short to get home and to get herself ready and to get to Washington to provide really important testimony on our lands bill.

1380
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:22,580
She has made very strong progress on our strategic plan goals.

1381
02:25:22,580 --> 02:25:29,320
Some public comment today said, you need it, you need to come up with some goals for her. Well, you know what we did.

1382
02:25:29,640 --> 02:25:37,580
It's called the Strategic Plan and she works on it seriously and has made great progress on it and there's evidence of that in the board packet for today.

1383
02:25:38,660 --> 02:25:40,600
Strong marks on accountability.

1384
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:46,940
Customer service, the employee delivery's efficient and effective service with an attitude of respect and fairness.

1385
02:25:47,820 --> 02:25:50,740
I believe that Jennifer also excels in this category.

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02:25:50,740 --> 02:26:01,820
I have seen her, I guess I should say, I don't think I've ever seen her be disrespectful or unfair to anyone within or outside the organization.

1387
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:06,600
She is efficient and effective in the things that she does.

1388
02:26:07,180 --> 02:26:15,600
Leadership, the employee establishes the tone and direction for success, motivating and inspiring others to accomplish a shared vision.

1389
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:23,100
Well, if you've worked with Jennifer at all, you know that she has a deep commitment to Douglas

1390
02:26:23,100 --> 02:26:29,840
County. This deep commitment is not just professional, but it's also personal.

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02:26:32,170 --> 02:26:32,810
She is

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02:26:32,810 --> 02:26:41,010
genuine in her passion to do what's best for the county and to improve the county processes.

1393
02:26:41,010 --> 02:26:49,310
And I want to mention in this category that Mr. Davidson is an example of emotional maturity.

1394
02:26:50,530 --> 02:27:00,470
There are plenty of times where it would be tempting to be angry, to be sarcastic, to be petty, to be vengeful,

1395
02:27:01,450 --> 02:27:06,230
that she rises above that. She is confident and she is also humble.

1396
02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:09,330
So I give our high marks in leadership.

1397
02:27:10,530 --> 02:27:18,490
Communication, the employee ensures open dialogue through proactive listening and sharing of information throughout the organization and the community.

1398
02:27:19,090 --> 02:27:22,690
Ms. Davidson does not shy away from difficult conversations.

1399
02:27:24,610 --> 02:27:33,110
She sometimes has to give some thought to how to have those conversations and how and what to say.

1400
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:38,410
and she is a great communicator and she listens effectively.

1401
02:27:41,710 --> 02:27:44,270
There was a glitch in communication, which I'll cover later.

1402
02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:50,450
But strong marks in communication, teamwork, the employee works together with others to achieve

1403
02:27:50,450 --> 02:27:57,090
shared goals. This is a parent in her letter where she gives credit and her letter in the board

1404
02:27:57,090 --> 02:28:05,110
at regarding her evaluation, and she gives credit to the exceptional workforce who are Douglas County employees

1405
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:12,590
and department has committed to serving our community every day. She always gives credit to others.

1406
02:28:15,070 --> 02:28:22,850
And often when I present a problem to her, very frequently, in fact, probably most of the times she'll say,

1407
02:28:22,850 --> 02:28:34,270
Let me talk to the team. I need to work with the team and she brings the team in to do the work and she also brings in the team to get the credit.

1408
02:28:35,530 --> 02:28:36,650
Rightly so.

1409
02:28:37,650 --> 02:28:43,850
The employee treats all citizens employees and visitors with respect. I've already spoken to that. Yes.

1410
02:28:43,850 --> 02:28:50,110
I want to mention a couple of things as Commissioner Gardner did.

1411
02:28:50,890 --> 02:28:56,890
There was public comment that the knocks, the paint a rock mine, the China Springs,

1412
02:28:57,150 --> 02:29:03,930
the Mueller, the Ashton Springs, there have been complications with all of those things

1413
02:29:03,930 --> 02:29:04,610
this year.

1414
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:11,190
And you know, maybe if a county manager when they started their term got to start with a fresh

1415
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:18,430
county with no problems. And everything is just running great. If that had happened,

1416
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:27,050
maybe it'd be fair to ladies these complications at her feet. But none that did not happen,

1417
02:29:27,050 --> 02:29:34,950
doesn't happen. And she has been given very complex challenges and has dealt with them.

1418
02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:39,410
sometimes like changing a bus on a moving van, right?

1419
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:46,530
And has dealt with them well and they're ongoing challenges because they're complex.

1420
02:29:47,150 --> 02:29:49,730
They're not of her making, they're not of this board's making,

1421
02:29:50,230 --> 02:29:55,810
but we're doing the best that we can to deal with them with integrity

1422
02:29:55,810 --> 02:29:59,450
and with an eye for the best interest to the county.

1423
02:30:01,550 --> 02:30:09,370
It's also been said that there is a neighboring county with a lower salary, well, you know what?

1424
02:30:09,790 --> 02:30:16,330
We have extra accomplishments we're working on. We have a lot big things we're working on.

1425
02:30:16,550 --> 02:30:21,890
We also have extra complications because we have a lot of different communities, including the lake.

1426
02:30:21,890 --> 02:30:42,530
The lake has a lot of challenging circumstances, not because the residents there are challenging, just because we have TRPA and we have other complex challenges and opportunities because we have the lake which is a different community.

1427
02:30:42,530 --> 02:30:47,630
We also have South County. We have a lot of different communities that require a lot of us.

1428
02:30:47,890 --> 02:30:51,990
And so it's not one cookie cutter situation is challenging.

1429
02:30:53,170 --> 02:31:00,530
And I will say that when I look at this spreadsheet with other executor of officers pay,

1430
02:31:00,970 --> 02:31:06,050
Jennifer is not. Jennifer is not out of line. It is not even in the top.

1431
02:31:07,010 --> 02:31:10,490
So I do feel like her salary is fair.

1432
02:31:13,390 --> 02:31:32,090
In the desire to meet an important strategic plan goal, which was stormwater, Ms. Davidson rushed a process and there was a big misstep and I am not going to sugarcoat it.

1433
02:31:32,090 --> 02:31:38,210
There was a rate map that was posted that did not reflect the board's intentions.

1434
02:31:39,510 --> 02:31:45,770
And it caused significant and legitimate anxiety to many, many residents.

1435
02:31:46,750 --> 02:31:48,490
There was a loss of public trust.

1436
02:31:49,250 --> 02:31:54,190
There was a meeting that was highly emotional, very lengthy, very difficult.

1437
02:31:54,610 --> 02:31:57,290
It was a painful experience for all involved.

1438
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:11,520
This mistake was a costly one, but it has also been valuable in the lessons that it has taught.

1439
02:32:12,540 --> 02:32:22,480
I believe that Mr. Davidson is willing and capable to grow because of that misstep.

1440
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:31,440
And in fact, has already started doing that, and I will say that the very moment that meeting ended,

1441
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:39,320
okay, maybe 10 minutes after the meeting ended. Ms. Davidson was already talking to me,

1442
02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:45,960
telling me she was accountable, and she wanted to take responsibility for what happened,

1443
02:32:45,960 --> 02:32:48,680
and she would work on that.

1444
02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:53,220
And we have had several conversations between then and now.

1445
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:57,620
And I believe that what was a vulnerability

1446
02:32:58,120 --> 02:33:00,080
will now become a strength,

1447
02:33:00,580 --> 02:33:04,540
because of lessons learned through that really difficult experience.

1448
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:11,140
I think it would be foolish of Douglas County

1449
02:33:11,620 --> 02:33:15,940
to allow that mistake to impact Ms. Davidson's

1450
02:33:15,940 --> 02:33:16,480
career.

1451
02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:30,180
Therefore, I will be in favor of a very strong evaluation with high marks in all

1452
02:33:30,180 --> 02:33:38,300
categories. I will also be reluctant to give much of a merit pay if any, because that

1453
02:33:38,300 --> 02:33:45,300
was a mistake that was very difficult for the county. And I believe that accountability

1454
02:33:45,300 --> 02:33:51,540
requires us to that that's how I see accountability working is that they're not

1455
02:33:51,540 --> 02:33:57,960
be a big merit increase but that her evaluation be given with very high

1456
02:33:57,960 --> 02:33:58,500
marks.

1457
02:34:01,720 --> 02:34:05,980
Okay so I believe my position on the county commission is not to be a

1458
02:34:05,980 --> 02:34:10,620
robber or a cheerleader and praise everybody's work if the work isn't done

1459
02:34:10,620 --> 02:34:17,140
right I think it's important that it's acknowledged and in corrections are made but

1460
02:34:17,140 --> 02:34:21,700
I don't see a lot of that with what we're talking about with our county manager.

1461
02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:32,200
So instead of going through the, the, the, the items that Commissioner Hells just did the integrity all the way through, I agree with, with almost everything Commissioner Hells has stated that I don't want to repeat it.

1462
02:34:32,220 --> 02:34:38,140
I will state this. I've had one of the county manager I worked under and he told me I could not respond to

1463
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:45,780
residents, problems. I was to turn them over to the county manager, let him do it and he never did anything.

1464
02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:53,320
And when Jennifer, this Davis and took over, the first thing she said was she was in favor of me reaching out to people

1465
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:59,980
and that she, as a county manager, helped direct questions to the right people and because of that.

1466
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,300
I have been much more successful in being able to help resolve issues, or even not resolve, but at least show

1467
02:35:05,300 --> 02:35:10,240
people in the county that we care, and that we're trying to resolve issues. And it was a thousand

1468
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:15,040
percent turn around for what the previous County Manager has stated. So I listened to some

1469
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:23,300
of the comments that were made before the public comment before the meeting. And some of

1470
02:35:23,300 --> 02:35:26,920
them surprised me. And I'm going to ask questions to try to get correct answers, because one

1471
02:35:26,920 --> 02:35:34,900
was, I believe Mr. Mayor has said that she was a highest pay county manager in the state.

1472
02:35:35,740 --> 02:35:41,020
And that's surprising. I didn't think that could possibly be the case. But you get the print out

1473
02:35:41,020 --> 02:35:48,060
of where the current county manager, she's a second lowest, second lowest. And not almost close

1474
02:35:48,060 --> 02:35:54,580
to the lowest, when you count the car allowance. So if anything, she's under what other

1475
02:35:54,580 --> 02:36:05,100
County managers are making here and I'm not going to go along with what Commissioner Rice said and say she's much better than any other county manager and to say I don't know what these are the county managers do in the state they may be one of also.

1476
02:36:05,460 --> 02:36:12,100
But we do know that Jennifer's done a great the Davis is done a great job for us and she should be at the second lowest of anybody out there.

1477
02:36:14,400 --> 02:36:23,220
The only person I think was overpaid on this list is our government former governor sand of all shit 565,000 he's a pay cut.

1478
02:36:24,360 --> 02:36:29,060
Actually, I wanted to say my mom thought he was so sharp and so good when she was on board

1479
02:36:29,060 --> 02:36:34,220
regions, that she just loved the work he did for the University of Nevada Reno, so he

1480
02:36:34,220 --> 02:36:35,640
probably does deserve that.

1481
02:36:36,180 --> 02:36:39,920
Let me just go through some of the things when they say that there's all these problems that

1482
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:43,340
have happened under her tenure and she should be responsible for that.

1483
02:36:43,340 --> 02:36:47,140
As has been stated, I think of Chairman Garland and most of those occurred beforehand.

1484
02:36:47,140 --> 02:36:56,420
Molly Parkway, in my opinion, was a horrible agreement that was ripe for a lawsuit if all parties

1485
02:36:56,420 --> 02:36:59,560
did work closely together, and that's been the case.

1486
02:37:02,310 --> 02:37:06,210
The things that she has done is that we had a timeline on Molly Parkway that had started

1487
02:37:06,210 --> 02:37:08,370
and we were running behind it wasn't going to get done.

1488
02:37:08,830 --> 02:37:12,970
She somehow came up with her staff, which that's the thing I was going to say.

1489
02:37:13,390 --> 02:37:16,250
The best thing I think Ms. Davis and does is she hires great people.

1490
02:37:16,250 --> 02:37:20,790
I really love work with most everybody on this committee here.

1491
02:37:20,790 --> 02:37:28,850
In fact, I was out the other night and I bumped into somebody who used to work at the county 15 years ago and she worked there for like 20 years, I think.

1492
02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:35,330
She said she's never seen a better and more high quality staff at people and then it's working there now for the county commission.

1493
02:37:35,510 --> 02:37:41,430
So that in itself should be the biggest focal point of what a leader does is hired really great people.

1494
02:37:41,430 --> 02:37:50,230
But so what she's done is she's she started title 20 which had been delayed for years and years and years and the 30% finished.

1495
02:37:50,730 --> 02:37:55,350
She got mole parkway started with along with the county staff and it's close to completion except for loss.

1496
02:37:55,550 --> 02:37:58,670
That basically was going to happen no matter who was in there.

1497
02:37:58,990 --> 02:38:02,570
The strategic plan was read done and that was delayed for a long period of time.

1498
02:38:02,890 --> 02:38:06,090
The courthouse people fight what do you call it? It's not the courthouse.

1499
02:38:06,090 --> 02:38:11,250
the justice center. We have been delayed and delayed costness all kinds of money because

1500
02:38:11,250 --> 02:38:18,030
we have all the delays. She got that started. When I complain of our roads, I have a county

1501
02:38:18,030 --> 02:38:21,910
former county commissioner. She always tries to bring up to me where you're going to find the

1502
02:38:21,910 --> 02:38:27,970
money. What are you going to find the money? Well, the problem is it's our responsibility to repair roads

1503
02:38:27,970 --> 02:38:33,090
as a county staff. You don't just say, hey, I don't have the money you kick it down the road.

1504
02:38:33,090 --> 02:38:42,170
Same thing with storm water. Those items issues were prevalent within the county for decades and nobody wanted to touch him because it's so controversial when you say it was

1505
02:38:42,170 --> 02:38:46,010
Miss handle yeah, it could have been done better, but at least Miss Davis had had the

1506
02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:56,170
Courage to bring it forward and say something needs to be done because after decades of neglect all we've gotten is a more worse or worse problem and she's got that started

1507
02:38:56,170 --> 02:39:01,730
Hires oh VHR issue. We were talking the other day how money coming into the

1508
02:39:03,230 --> 02:39:08,850
like Tahoe for the parks of Iraq and how much more money had come in because of the regulation

1509
02:39:08,850 --> 02:39:09,830
of VHRs.

1510
02:39:09,950 --> 02:39:13,630
They found, well, I think you said 1100 people that had been doing it now, there's some

1511
02:39:13,630 --> 02:39:16,030
most of them are having to pay their their costs.

1512
02:39:16,450 --> 02:39:17,710
So that's a big achievement.

1513
02:39:17,790 --> 02:39:18,430
I can go on.

1514
02:39:18,470 --> 02:39:20,270
I don't want to spend the rest of the day doing that.

1515
02:39:20,330 --> 02:39:25,410
I just want to ask you a few questions of what was brought up during the meeting.

1516
02:39:25,430 --> 02:39:26,770
Let me see what they're at.

1517
02:39:27,530 --> 02:39:27,750
Okay.

1518
02:39:27,910 --> 02:39:28,710
System County manager.

1519
02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:35,370
We already talked about your salary, they said it was extremely high and based upon the print

1520
02:39:35,370 --> 02:39:38,390
out that we have here as a second lowest under Carson City.

1521
02:39:39,590 --> 02:39:43,350
The Assistant County Manager, they said you we created a new position for her.

1522
02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:47,090
She's going to pay 200,000, can you discuss that?

1523
02:39:47,910 --> 02:39:51,050
Thank you, Commissioner Tarkinian, for the question, Jennifer Davidson County Manager for

1524
02:39:51,050 --> 02:39:51,350
the record.

1525
02:39:51,350 --> 02:39:57,610
The Assistant County Manager position, I believe was created for Steve Moker-Heithy back in,

1526
02:39:57,710 --> 02:39:59,950
well, it wasn't created for him. He ended up being the...

1527
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:28,780
First Assistant County Manager in the position under T-Michael Brown in 2009, 2008. The point is that I didn't create the position. I did occupy the position before accepting this position, obviously. The position that I created was the chief operating officer in my office and Kathy Lewis currently occupies that. I'm very grateful to have her on my team, but we did that through a reorganization that resulted in salary savings.

1528
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:35,880
And we were able to eliminate a combination of other positions in order to pay for that.

1529
02:40:36,440 --> 02:40:41,420
And the net result was $20,000 in savings to the general fund through that reorganization.

1530
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:49,720
And I think a much more successful or extracurricular for this organization, which will set us up for success years into the future,

1531
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:57,220
because we have been able to focus on financial sustainability for this organization and operational sustainability in my office,

1532
02:40:57,220 --> 02:41:00,580
which is a cornerstone of what I asked for,

1533
02:41:00,580 --> 02:41:02,640
asked to accomplish when I became the County Manager.

1534
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:05,060
The public speaker, it also meant

1535
02:41:05,060 --> 02:41:06,380
that there are no other counties

1536
02:41:06,380 --> 02:41:07,800
with the Assistant County Manager.

1537
02:41:07,940 --> 02:41:09,100
Do you know if that's true or not?

1538
02:41:09,820 --> 02:41:10,840
That's not true.

1539
02:41:11,440 --> 02:41:14,060
Lying County does not have an Assistant County Manager.

1540
02:41:14,420 --> 02:41:15,420
That piece is correct.

1541
02:41:16,340 --> 02:41:18,100
It's a mixed bag across the state

1542
02:41:18,100 --> 02:41:19,540
whether or not there are Assistant County

1543
02:41:19,540 --> 02:41:20,780
managers for other organizations.

1544
02:41:21,240 --> 02:41:21,640
OK.

1545
02:41:22,140 --> 02:41:23,900
But they want us to discuss some of the other questions

1546
02:41:23,900 --> 02:41:26,100
that they brought up in the discussion.

1547
02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:29,620
I know we talked about this before, but can you repeat this?

1548
02:41:29,860 --> 02:41:33,000
It can't blame when you, your office for the storm out of grant being missed.

1549
02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:34,780
Can you just discuss that?

1550
02:41:35,120 --> 02:41:39,540
Thank you again for the question, Commissioner Tarkini, and as I have stated publicly in

1551
02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:45,380
the past, we ultimately made the decision not to apply for that grant.

1552
02:41:46,060 --> 02:41:50,580
It would have been an NCRS grant, and I'm drawing a blank on the acronym.

1553
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:55,520
But in order to qualify for that funding, we would have had to have represented to the

1554
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:59,160
agency that we had exhausted all other funding sources.

1555
02:41:59,840 --> 02:42:03,960
This organization through your direction, the direction of this county commission had set

1556
02:42:03,960 --> 02:42:08,900
a side funding for maintenance on smelter Creek of around, I believe, 400,000.

1557
02:42:09,180 --> 02:42:11,360
And we had not exhausted all of that funding.

1558
02:42:11,980 --> 02:42:16,420
Additionally, it was the direction of this county commission that we would not take on maintenance

1559
02:42:16,420 --> 02:42:19,320
responsibility of the Creek moving forward.

1560
02:42:20,380 --> 02:42:25,220
And securing that grant funding would have required us to commit to taking on that responsibility

1561
02:42:25,220 --> 02:42:29,080
for the foreseeable future. That's why we made the decision not to apply for that grant.

1562
02:42:35,430 --> 02:42:38,610
Thank you, Commissioner Tarkinian. So because your microphone was a normal just stay state

1563
02:42:38,610 --> 02:42:45,070
your question, I think you were asking me about China Spring. I previously worked for China Spring

1564
02:42:45,070 --> 02:42:53,210
Youth Camp from 2009 to 2012. The lawsuit that was recently submitted, which is a public document,

1565
02:42:53,430 --> 02:42:58,250
anyone who wants to obtain that information can read the complaint itself if you're interested.

1566
02:42:59,470 --> 02:43:08,110
Talks about staffing issues in the early 2000s as Commissioner Gardner alluded to when I did not work out at camp.

1567
02:43:08,990 --> 02:43:17,850
And then also some later on, I think the latest incident described in the complaint is 2021.

1568
02:43:18,290 --> 02:43:22,450
Yes, I'm looking at our camp director who sees behind us.

1569
02:43:22,450 --> 02:43:38,970
We were not transferring new camp to not fall under my jurisdiction or control as county manager until after 2021, when this board took action to bring the administration of camp under my office.

1570
02:43:40,210 --> 02:43:42,530
That's all the questions I had. I do want to stay.

1571
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:48,950
We've had difference of opinion on a number of areas and I don't think that's a disqualification of competent or really good work.

1572
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:56,010
It's just the way people are. So although we have different of opinion, I do respect the way that you panel things. Thank you. Thank you.

1573
02:43:56,010 --> 02:43:59,270
Thank you, Mr. Perkinian. Mr. Torr.

1574
02:44:00,210 --> 02:44:09,130
All right, so we've struggled to be misdave it, send it all this and I already wrote it as Jennifer and I and we, so I'm, you know, just going to stick with that.

1575
02:44:09,710 --> 02:44:18,030
So I think you know, knowing me, I spent a lot of time on this evaluation because I wanted it to be fair and not just to you,

1576
02:44:18,030 --> 02:44:22,770
also to the public and to the employees you lead. So overall I'm just going to get that out of the way.

1577
02:44:22,870 --> 02:44:27,410
I believe you had a good year, and I would rate your performance overall as exceeding expectations.

1578
02:44:28,990 --> 02:44:34,450
One of the greatest strengths that you, of yours is that you're action oriented. This county

1579
02:44:34,450 --> 02:44:41,150
has a lot going on, litigation, major projects, difficult policy issues, challenging budget,

1580
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:46,710
infrastructure needs, and the everyday work of the county government to boot. So I don't see you

1581
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:49,310
sitting on your hands waiting for those problems to go away.

1582
02:44:49,430 --> 02:44:54,070
You engage in the difficult issues and you work to move them towards resolution.

1583
02:44:55,370 --> 02:44:59,810
I also can't think of a significant board-directed deadline that simply fell through the cracks.

1584
02:45:00,110 --> 02:45:11,650
And that tells me that something about the organization that you're managing, because the staff comes through and responds, even though I don't see what happens behind the scenes every day, I think that's still a testimonial.

1585
02:45:13,150 --> 02:45:26,910
I believe you deserve a particular credit for the work you did on a lands bill for getting us moving on a stormwater problem that's existed for many years and for managing a team that works within a budget that is essentially marine, marine, flat for three years.

1586
02:45:26,910 --> 02:45:40,710
I've heard you personally question whether an expenditure expenditure is a viable use of county funds and even whether a particular service is properly the role of county government so I appreciate that fiscal discipline.

1587
02:45:41,490 --> 02:45:43,830
I also appreciate your relationship with this board.

1588
02:45:44,890 --> 02:45:54,810
Five commissioners with five distinctly different personalities and perspectives and that's not always easy to navigate yet you do that very well.

1589
02:45:54,810 --> 02:46:01,310
I've never felt that you favor one of us over the other, and you have been particularly helpful to me in navigating,

1590
02:46:02,330 --> 02:46:08,630
open meeting law and understanding my role and what I'm supposed to be doing. So I appreciate that.

1591
02:46:09,050 --> 02:46:14,130
I'd also appreciate that when there's bad news, you pick up the phone and tell me,

1592
02:46:14,390 --> 02:46:18,750
we have an issue you need to be aware of. And that's a direct quote.

1593
02:46:18,750 --> 02:46:27,130
And unfortunately, that happens, you know, probably more than any of us would like, but I think that's an important quality, you know, you don't want to tell the delivery it but you do.

1594
02:46:28,370 --> 02:46:30,890
But there are areas that I believe we can improve.

1595
02:46:32,190 --> 02:46:34,430
Again, storm waters probably the most obvious example.

1596
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:43,490
My perspective on that is I think the board trusted staff to understand the process, because of course I had never been through anything like that before.

1597
02:46:43,490 --> 02:46:50,210
And then I think staff trusted the consultant and ultimately we learned that we had not adequately pressure tested what we were putting forward.

1598
02:46:51,130 --> 02:47:02,030
And so, at the county manager level, I expect major initiatives with significant financial impacts on our residents to receive that pressure test and additional level scrutiny before they reach the public in the future.

1599
02:47:02,530 --> 02:47:08,850
That didn't happen sufficiently in this case, but I give you considerable credit for owning your part in that.

1600
02:47:08,850 --> 02:47:15,750
stopping and changing the process, I don't expect you or anybody to never make a mistake,

1601
02:47:16,410 --> 02:47:21,660
but I do expect us to recognize them, own them, and learn from them so that we don't repeat them.

1602
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:30,230
I also would prefer a more proactive communication from the county manager's office on complicated

1603
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:36,550
issues. For example, when I ask questions, I get very good answers, and sometimes those are followed up

1604
02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:45,870
I'm going to forward you this to review so I have additional materials to review but for me personally there's times when I don't know what I don't know

1605
02:47:45,870 --> 02:47:50,650
I don't have a background in in government affairs and so therefore

1606
02:47:51,930 --> 02:47:55,290
I may not know the questions to ask when we have our one-on-ones

1607
02:47:56,170 --> 02:48:01,990
So or what questions I should be asking so and I think that's probably true of all of us in one time or another

1608
02:48:01,990 --> 02:48:15,510
And so maybe probing questions to figure out what my capacity is, or in that, not to tell us how to vote, but to make sure that we understand the risk alternatives and consequences before we do.

1609
02:48:17,870 --> 02:48:24,670
And my biggest goal for this coming year is something I've raised before, and that's the credibility of Douglas County's government.

1610
02:48:25,290 --> 02:48:29,230
I've called it an image problem in the past, but I don't think that's quite right.

1611
02:48:29,450 --> 02:48:34,250
An image problem is something you can address through communication, and I think credibility

1612
02:48:34,250 --> 02:48:35,270
has to be earned.

1613
02:48:36,610 --> 02:48:41,050
And although you didn't create this issue by any means, but after more than three years as

1614
02:48:41,050 --> 02:48:45,910
the county manager, I don't think we can continue treating it as simply an inherited problem.

1615
02:48:46,810 --> 02:48:51,990
So I've raised this concern before and have not seen specific organizational progress.

1616
02:48:51,990 --> 02:48:57,570
So going forward, I think rebuilding the county's credibility is part of your responsibility

1617
02:48:57,570 --> 02:49:04,030
as a leader of this organization and credibility comes from whether we apply standards

1618
02:49:04,030 --> 02:49:07,590
consistently hold ourselves to the standards we expect from the public.

1619
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:11,870
We value real world experience alongside our technical analysis.

1620
02:49:12,730 --> 02:49:17,570
We communicate with people before taking actions that could potentially significantly affect them.

1621
02:49:17,570 --> 02:49:23,670
We give employees room to identify problems and are willing to say we got this wrong.

1622
02:49:25,250 --> 02:49:37,810
I also don't want us addressing these concerns one complain at a time because then it ends after we investigate each one and we end up explaining why staff technically didn't do anything wrong and concluding that there isn't a problem.

1623
02:49:38,130 --> 02:49:44,570
But we need to look at these for patterns so that we can find out where these are coming from and address that.

1624
02:49:45,550 --> 02:49:48,870
So, and that examination should include the board too.

1625
02:49:49,650 --> 02:49:52,350
You know, if we're contributing to these credibility problems

1626
02:49:52,350 --> 02:49:55,010
through our direction or actions, I would hope

1627
02:49:55,010 --> 02:49:57,290
and expect that you would tell us that as well.

1628
02:49:58,270 --> 02:49:59,650
So, those are my three priority.

1629
02:50:00,140 --> 02:50:08,880
Rebuild our organizational credibility and public trust from the inside out. Strengthen our proactive communication with the Board, so we understand questions, race and alternatives.

1630
02:50:09,740 --> 02:50:17,120
And then strengthen the internal accountability and create a culture where employees can identify problems early before they become larger problems.

1631
02:50:18,460 --> 02:50:21,380
And I believe these goals actually build on your strengths.

1632
02:50:21,380 --> 02:50:27,480
You're willing to tackle difficult issues, your strong communicator, and you have demonstrated

1633
02:50:27,480 --> 02:50:30,720
an ability to manage competing personalities and perspectives.

1634
02:50:31,800 --> 02:50:36,840
So I have complete confidence in your ability to lead this work and believe that you, above

1635
02:50:36,840 --> 02:50:40,600
others, have the leadership ability to make meaningful progress in this.

1636
02:50:41,040 --> 02:50:47,060
So I truly appreciate the work you do, and I probably more importantly, the amount of difficult

1637
02:50:47,060 --> 02:50:48,420
work you're willing to take on.

1638
02:50:48,420 --> 02:50:52,060
And I look forward to seeing what we can accomplish over the next year.

1639
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:55,040
Okay.

1640
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,060
Thank you.

1641
02:50:57,220 --> 02:50:57,860
I think it's Michael.

1642
02:51:00,650 --> 02:51:08,010
So first of all, I wanted to address a couple of items that were brought up by the public

1643
02:51:09,030 --> 02:51:11,310
because we've had some public comment earlier.

1644
02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:18,250
First of all, I appreciate what you're saying, Mr. Jackson, in regards to the process

1645
02:51:18,250 --> 02:51:22,850
and the fact that this has to be in front of the public.

1646
02:51:23,750 --> 02:51:26,530
However, that's the way it is designed, okay?

1647
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:43,970
And it must be a public purpose process and so it is difficult for us, I think, and difficult for the individual that we are reviewing,

1648
02:51:44,770 --> 02:51:49,450
that this has to be a public process, but that's the way the rules are, and so we live

1649
02:51:49,450 --> 02:51:56,190
with that observation. Our county manager is collectively, and I will say collectively,

1650
02:51:56,950 --> 02:52:03,110
our single employee, this board, single employee is the county manager, okay?

1651
02:52:13,410 --> 02:52:13,950
And then

1652
02:52:13,950 --> 02:52:18,810
about whether or not our county manager is over-compensated.

1653
02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:27,170
I have reviewed the spreadsheets that Mr. Vito has given us,

1654
02:52:27,950 --> 02:52:31,370
and Commissioner Tarcanian pointed out.

1655
02:52:33,070 --> 02:52:37,750
And then I heard a rumor through social media earlier this week

1656
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:47,890
that we had the 7th highest paid county manager in the United States, and I couldn't believe

1657
02:52:47,890 --> 02:52:48,610
that comment.

1658
02:52:48,970 --> 02:52:51,410
And I took exception to that comment immediately.

1659
02:52:52,750 --> 02:52:58,890
I serve on the Board of Directors of the National Association of Counties, representing

1660
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:01,490
the state in Nevada and our county.

1661
02:53:01,490 --> 02:53:13,210
And I can tell you, I had known even previously that there were more, that would have placed,

1662
02:53:13,570 --> 02:53:17,890
knowing the compensation of wash of county and Clark County, that would have given us

1663
02:53:17,890 --> 02:53:23,870
three of the seven in the United States out of 3,069 counties.

1664
02:53:24,070 --> 02:53:26,970
So I knew that was not a correct statement, okay?

1665
02:53:28,110 --> 02:53:29,390
I'm not saying you're the lowest.

1666
02:53:29,390 --> 02:53:51,170
But it's certainly not the highest and as a matter of fact, it's come to our attention that even the city of South Lake Tahoe, the city of South Lake Tahoe, recently hired a new city manager, $256,000 a year, that's more than our county manager makes.

1667
02:53:51,170 --> 02:53:58,370
The city of South Lake Tahoe, not nearly the task, not nearly the workload, not nearly the amount of employees

1668
02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:01,610
Is making more, okay

1669
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:14,210
Please don't write that down because I don't want you going to those entities. Okay, okay, so I concur with what could measure a rice is said, okay

1670
02:54:15,430 --> 02:54:20,770
You've done a remarkable job and over the last several years that we've been involved

1671
02:54:20,770 --> 02:54:30,310
I've had the opportunity to serve with you as Chairman, this is my second year working with you in that regard.

1672
02:54:32,070 --> 02:54:40,070
County managers are a high burnout position and

1673
02:54:43,300 --> 02:54:54,200
we've had ourselves, I believe, somewhere since 2000, maybe 2009 or whatever it is, we've had 12 changes in our county managers positions.

1674
02:54:55,280 --> 02:54:59,960
Patrick Cates has served us for four years, was one of the longest standing, okay?

1675
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:27,960
But it is a high burnout position. And so that concerns me. And that was brought forward by members of our public three years ago when we hired Jennifer Davidson as our county manager that can she last for the long run? Or is this position going to burn around? And my comment was, is that it's not for me to determine.

1676
02:55:27,960 --> 02:55:34,160
That's not for this board. That's for the individual data tournament. Okay. I can tell you

1677
02:55:34,160 --> 02:55:40,260
it has burned out a number, a lot of accounting managers, not only in this county but other counties

1678
02:55:40,260 --> 02:55:48,640
because the workload is enormous. And our public just sees a small fraction of that on a daily basis.

1679
02:55:49,660 --> 02:55:55,780
I was asked by the other thing I wanted to mention is, I was asked by a member of the public

1680
02:55:55,780 --> 02:56:03,920
What is your opinion going into today's meeting regarding a merit increase for our county manager?

1681
02:56:06,850 --> 02:56:19,110
Well, I was instructed way back when in 2021, I believe by Mr. Richie, that there is a purpose for public comment.

1682
02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:25,250
And that public comment is to listen to the public before you make a decision.

1683
02:56:25,990 --> 02:56:33,590
Okay? So I have tried to follow that rule very, very closely. Okay? I want to hear what

1684
02:56:33,590 --> 02:56:40,450
my fellow commissioners have to say because their opinions might change my feeling and we're

1685
02:56:40,450 --> 02:56:44,350
not allowed to talk in advance of the meeting because it will have been meeting law and

1686
02:56:44,350 --> 02:56:51,570
deliberate. So we don't. But I also treasure what the community has to bring forward.

1687
02:56:51,570 --> 02:57:03,250
That was witnessed very, very clearly in a proper manner in regards to our stormwater utility fee back on May 28th.

1688
02:57:03,430 --> 02:57:19,950
We listened to nearly 200 members of our public expressed a pleasure with us, and because of that discussion and because of what we looked at in the package we came to the conclusion that we weren't ready for prime time with that program.

1689
02:57:19,950 --> 02:57:25,150
and we backed off and we created a stormwater task force.

1690
02:57:26,610 --> 02:57:33,390
I know that our staff, including Ms. Davidson,

1691
02:57:35,550 --> 02:57:38,670
and our Assistant County Manager, Wendy Lang,

1692
02:57:41,310 --> 02:57:45,410
were, we had engaged the public very, very heavily

1693
02:57:45,410 --> 02:57:55,670
in advance of that stormwater issue coming before us, and we did not anticipate the kind of pushback we got.

1694
02:57:56,590 --> 02:57:58,250
And I don't think staff did either.

1695
02:57:58,790 --> 02:58:00,510
So it was a right thing to do.

1696
02:58:00,670 --> 02:58:01,990
It was great community.

1697
02:58:02,330 --> 02:58:08,130
And that's the way this community or any government should work is is allowing the forum.

1698
02:58:08,130 --> 02:58:11,210
The forum comes forward and you listen to your residents.

1699
02:58:11,550 --> 02:58:15,390
You listen to your constituents and you base your decisions based on that.

1700
02:58:16,290 --> 02:58:17,850
looking at all the data.

1701
02:58:19,930 --> 02:58:27,140
So, the lawsuit, it was mentioned today, right? We, we, you know,

1702
02:58:27,380 --> 02:58:33,400
we're, uh, lawsuit happy. Well, I can tell you this, I can't, I don't, I'm not aware of any

1703
02:58:33,400 --> 02:58:39,920
lawsuits that we have instigated as a county or our county manager visited, not a single,

1704
02:58:46,580 --> 02:58:46,620
not a

1705
02:58:46,620 --> 02:58:54,200
been in tremendous public dollars right now defending those lawsuits because we believe that

1706
02:58:54,200 --> 02:59:00,760
we have been ourselves wronged and we feel like we're in a position where we're strong on

1707
02:59:00,760 --> 02:59:06,160
those and so unfortunately we have to defend those. We don't have a choice when those lawsuits

1708
02:59:06,160 --> 02:59:11,950
are presented to us. We have to defend them okay and I appreciate the legal staff that does that.

1709
02:59:14,610 --> 02:59:22,170
I said this four years ago, I think, three years ago, four years ago, I guess, five years

1710
02:59:22,170 --> 02:59:32,490
ago when Patrick Kates came to us for his review, and I made this observation that the

1711
02:59:32,490 --> 02:59:39,150
public nor does the commission really have an opportunity to see all the balls in the

1712
02:59:39,150 --> 02:59:48,810
that our county manager has, and I stated a few, I looked at a few myself that I know

1713
02:59:48,810 --> 02:59:54,170
that I'm working on, Landsville, Park Litigation, Painter, Rock, Mind, Snoutter Creek, Stormwater,

1714
02:59:54,170 --> 02:59:56,650
for this degree on a title 20 master plan.

1715
02:59:57,230 --> 02:59:59,970
Warm Springs, attainable housing, roots in winter.

1716
03:00:02,460 --> 03:00:28,900
And now on our radar, getting a lot of public interest is data centers that we're going to have to add to. Those are just the ones that are on my list. I pale to understand, you know, how our county manager keeps all those balls in the air, and doesn't let them fall. But certain things that I have appreciated, and I said this probably, this will be the third time I've said it.

1717
03:00:30,720 --> 03:00:44,420
No fault of Patrick Kates, so no fault of Patrick Kates, but I can tell you this, when I walked into the county manager's office before Jennifer was our county manager,

1718
03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:51,340
unfortunately I felt like I was interrupting our county manager.

1719
03:00:52,740 --> 03:01:00,360
I can tell you now today, I guess I have a very distinctive voice because even if the door

1720
03:01:00,360 --> 03:01:05,640
is closed and I walk into the county manager's office and I say hello to Rachel or to

1721
03:01:05,640 --> 03:01:14,300
Brooke, apparently my voice carries distinctively and the door opens if it's closed and

1722
03:01:14,300 --> 03:01:17,260
here comes Jennifer Davidson, did you need to see me today?

1723
03:01:17,260 --> 03:01:24,800
I don't know what she's doing. I don't know what phone call she turned off or computer, but she has the most

1724
03:01:25,200 --> 03:01:33,020
Open door policy that I have ever witnessed in my entire career. Okay, always assessable always assessable

1725
03:01:33,020 --> 03:01:35,640
Does she always do we always agree?

1726
03:01:37,100 --> 03:01:38,300
Absolutely not

1727
03:01:38,300 --> 03:01:40,800
First of all, I'll say that

1728
03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:44,800
I don't always agree with the person I look at in the mirror every morning

1729
03:01:47,390 --> 03:01:48,670
and certainly

1730
03:01:50,730 --> 03:01:56,070
I don't, you know, a conversation I had with my daughter and she says, you know, it seems

1731
03:01:56,070 --> 03:02:01,010
like you and Mama are always arguing and I said, no, we're discussing because just

1732
03:02:01,010 --> 03:02:04,270
because two people are going down the path together doesn't mean they're going down the

1733
03:02:04,270 --> 03:02:04,950
right path.

1734
03:02:05,170 --> 03:02:12,990
So we discuss items, okay, and that's the type of thing that is, you know, Jennifer and

1735
03:02:12,990 --> 03:02:19,690
I have not always agreed on all of you, and I think all of us can say that on the board.

1736
03:02:20,490 --> 03:02:28,230
We have had some very robust discussions, including one this morning, for a half hour,

1737
03:02:28,330 --> 03:02:29,530
including one this morning.

1738
03:02:32,530 --> 03:02:40,170
I had my views, and she offered me suggestions of other ways to look at an issue, and I

1739
03:02:40,170 --> 03:02:47,130
appreciate that. And I've told her that and I've told all the members of our staff, I do not want

1740
03:02:47,130 --> 03:02:52,870
to have a conversation with any of our staff members or any of our employees where they feel like

1741
03:02:52,870 --> 03:03:00,530
they need to tell me what they think I want to hear. I want to know their honest and open and straightforward

1742
03:03:00,530 --> 03:03:09,130
opinion because my opinion is not always correct. More often than not, it is not correct. Okay,

1743
03:03:09,130 --> 03:03:16,370
because I still learned things, but she does at the end of the day understand that this board

1744
03:03:16,370 --> 03:03:17,850
creates the policy,

1745
03:03:19,900 --> 03:03:23,760
and that's very important aspect. She understands that,

1746
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:30,800
not necessarily degrees with it, but she tries to carry it out, based on what we try to

1747
03:03:30,800 --> 03:03:34,580
ask her to do. So I appreciate those aspects.

1748
03:03:38,300 --> 03:03:40,500
She holds others accountable. And so

1749
03:03:40,500 --> 03:03:49,460
Yes, I did, by the way, Commissioner Hills, I did, I did write some notes based on the rubric that we got. Okay, so integrity, absolutely.

1750
03:03:50,880 --> 03:04:01,560
Accountability, yes, she does not only does she accept accountability, but she holds her staff and others accountable, okay, which is important. Customer service.

1751
03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:05,420
We've had discussions about that.

1752
03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:07,500
It's hard to see.

1753
03:04:08,480 --> 03:04:11,540
We have a customer's residence that come in,

1754
03:04:12,020 --> 03:04:14,160
and they're not necessarily happy with our customer service,

1755
03:04:14,400 --> 03:04:15,900
but we really do try.

1756
03:04:16,300 --> 03:04:17,040
We really do try.

1757
03:04:17,180 --> 03:04:18,860
And I know her and her staff does do.

1758
03:04:19,480 --> 03:04:21,320
So, tremendous leadership skills.

1759
03:04:22,880 --> 03:04:24,900
I couldn't ask for more in regards to leadership.

1760
03:04:26,760 --> 03:04:29,280
And trying to install or install

1761
03:04:29,280 --> 03:04:36,040
our other employees, we're gaining their, and improving up on their leadership skills.

1762
03:04:36,660 --> 03:04:44,120
Communication once again, I, I, I, I, I very proactive, uh, listener and, um, I, I appreciate that.

1763
03:04:44,540 --> 03:04:47,500
And she works very, very hard to create teamwork within.

1764
03:04:49,180 --> 03:04:53,880
And, uh, respect, this something that I know that we talked about on our, uh,

1765
03:04:53,880 --> 03:04:59,480
Board norms of procedures about installing respect and I believe that.

1766
03:05:00,140 --> 03:05:11,600
We bring that. So anyways, I think it's important also to point out, okay? This county is very anti-tax.

1767
03:05:14,400 --> 03:05:19,580
We are in the process of building a $20 million road called Mueller Parkway.

1768
03:05:22,150 --> 03:05:28,890
We haven't asked the residents of this county for a single more dime out of their pockets to do that.

1769
03:05:28,890 --> 03:05:48,590
That has been achieved. We have as soon as we get the go ahead, we're ready to complete that road to the benefit of our county, but we can't do it until we get to go ahead from the judge, and that's going to be another six months, nine months, maybe, maybe. We have been hopeful that.

1770
03:05:50,030 --> 03:05:59,090
We're seeing a brand new $50 million building go up this county, this building and the J-Lex

1771
03:05:59,090 --> 03:05:59,630
Center.

1772
03:05:59,850 --> 03:06:02,970
This county is building is doing what we needed to.

1773
03:06:03,130 --> 03:06:08,530
The J-Lex Center is not ADA compliant and it creates a lot of problems for us.

1774
03:06:08,790 --> 03:06:14,310
That had a 20-year lifespan and it expired in 2002, okay?

1775
03:06:14,310 --> 03:06:28,210
So, we're building a new $50 million dollar justice center, under budget, under time, and not a single additional penny is coming out of the taxpayers' pockets.

1776
03:06:29,070 --> 03:06:35,790
Those are huge accomplishments, huge accomplishments, and led by our county manager.

1777
03:06:35,790 --> 03:06:36,990
So,

1778
03:06:40,070 --> 03:06:49,090
as the commissioners has stated, we underestimated, we grossly underestimated stormwater

1779
03:06:49,090 --> 03:06:56,250
and the issue that that would create and I appreciate that and we will move forward with that.

1780
03:06:56,790 --> 03:07:05,410
But I think that the individuals in this community that don't understand what she does on

1781
03:07:05,410 --> 03:07:13,390
daily basis, I would encourage you to set up an appointment and visit with her about that.

1782
03:07:15,150 --> 03:07:16,090
I think that's important.

1783
03:07:17,790 --> 03:07:24,010
And those who still want to distract from what she's trying to accomplish on behalf of

1784
03:07:24,010 --> 03:07:32,390
our residents, I think those are single issues that are driving those feelings.

1785
03:07:32,390 --> 03:07:52,230
So anyways, and it was also asked, I'm sorry, I had my notes, I'm a little scattered here but I appreciate your indulgence today on this but this is a very important aspect one of our responsibilities as a commissioner is regarding the perous allocations.

1786
03:07:52,230 --> 03:07:55,550
And to my understanding and talking with human resources,

1787
03:07:56,450 --> 03:08:00,530
our Perse allegations were a policy of this board

1788
03:08:01,230 --> 03:08:04,450
some decades ago, a couple decades ago,

1789
03:08:04,570 --> 03:08:07,930
regarding fully funding all of our employees, all of our employees,

1790
03:08:08,330 --> 03:08:09,290
with their full purse.

1791
03:08:09,890 --> 03:08:12,630
That doesn't just relate to our county manager,

1792
03:08:13,170 --> 03:08:14,870
it relates to all of our employees.

1793
03:08:15,430 --> 03:08:17,110
Now, whether or not we want to revisit that,

1794
03:08:17,350 --> 03:08:18,730
I don't know.

1795
03:08:18,730 --> 03:08:29,290
But and and we don't set those purse allocations. Those are set by Carson City, right? What the what the amounts are. So once again, those are kind of

1796
03:08:30,130 --> 03:08:36,730
Unfunded mandates that we have to live with, but we do that. And we balance our budget. So

1797
03:08:37,630 --> 03:08:38,070
Anyways,

1798
03:08:40,290 --> 03:08:41,690
those are my feelings and

1799
03:08:42,970 --> 03:08:47,650
I'm just sure. Yeah, before we go to public comment, I had to make a clarification. Okay, so I had a text.

1800
03:08:47,650 --> 03:08:52,650
a constituent that said, what are you talking about with respect to the salaries of the county

1801
03:08:52,650 --> 03:08:57,670
managers. So the printoff that we have only has three county managers on it. It has six

1802
03:08:57,670 --> 03:09:02,790
city managers on it. So there are some of the county rural kind of managers around this. So when I say that

1803
03:09:02,790 --> 03:09:07,770
she's a second lowest of all of them, it's what was on this printout that we got, which included six

1804
03:09:07,770 --> 03:09:13,770
city managers and three county managers, not all the counties in Nevada. So that's my clarification.

1805
03:09:14,230 --> 03:09:15,650
And I apologize for the misunderstanding.

1806
03:09:17,650 --> 03:09:24,830
I did not mention the priorities that I have that I would like to see us include since we're

1807
03:09:24,830 --> 03:09:26,050
talking about that.

1808
03:09:29,430 --> 03:09:29,770
Comments?

1809
03:09:30,910 --> 03:09:36,750
And you know, basically giving direction to going forward is, that's all my, you know, I

1810
03:09:36,750 --> 03:09:37,670
don't want to preach.

1811
03:09:38,270 --> 03:09:38,450
Okay.

1812
03:09:38,770 --> 03:09:39,550
Very good then.

1813
03:09:41,130 --> 03:09:46,670
I don't know that anything we've said needs a response, okay, but let's, let's go to public

1814
03:09:46,670 --> 03:09:49,110
Let's listen to what the public has to say.

1815
03:10:01,230 --> 03:10:04,430
All right.

1816
03:10:14,190 --> 03:10:22,690
Good afternoon. I just want to take a couple moments to speak about Jennifer, not only as our county manager, but also as someone.

1817
03:10:22,870 --> 03:10:28,590
State your name for the record, please. Every time Amy Bergen's Douglas County Click Treasure.

1818
03:10:30,930 --> 03:10:39,290
I did write it down, though, so that Tonya gets the spelling right. I just want to take a moment to speak about Jennifer.

1819
03:10:39,290 --> 03:10:43,950
not only as our county manager but as someone that I have had the opportunity to work with

1820
03:10:45,350 --> 03:10:53,070
alongside and see behind the scenes and for close to a decade which is just time flies.

1821
03:10:54,370 --> 03:10:59,610
I know I am standing here speaking for myself but I also know that there are a lot of people in this

1822
03:10:59,610 --> 03:11:05,870
organization that feel the same way. Many of those people are employees and it is simply not appropriate

1823
03:11:05,870 --> 03:11:11,850
for them to come to a public meeting and say some of the things that I have the freedom to say.

1824
03:11:12,550 --> 03:11:16,730
So today, I hope I can be a little bit of their voice too.

1825
03:11:17,310 --> 03:11:18,990
I see how hard Jennifer works.

1826
03:11:19,590 --> 03:11:24,770
I see the long hours, the difficult conversations, the problems that land on her desk,

1827
03:11:25,270 --> 03:11:29,730
and the weight that comes from being responsible for an entire organization.

1828
03:11:30,730 --> 03:11:34,490
More importantly, I see how much she genuinely cares.

1829
03:11:34,490 --> 03:11:41,710
She works for the people, the people who live in this community, and the people who work for this county.

1830
03:11:42,890 --> 03:11:48,270
One thing I feel very strongly about is that our employees are our greatest asset.

1831
03:11:49,290 --> 03:11:56,310
We can have beautiful buildings, good policies, new technology, and ambitious plans,

1832
03:11:56,830 --> 03:12:01,590
but none of it matters without good people showing up every day to make it happen.

1833
03:12:01,590 --> 03:12:04,830
And good people need good leadership.

1834
03:12:06,830 --> 03:12:10,710
Leadership isn't just making decisions, it's listening.

1835
03:12:11,570 --> 03:12:13,810
It's supporting people when things are difficult.

1836
03:12:14,790 --> 03:12:18,070
It's taking responsibility when something goes wrong

1837
03:12:18,070 --> 03:12:21,350
and giving others credit when things go right.

1838
03:12:22,330 --> 03:12:24,850
It's being willing to have the hard conversations,

1839
03:12:26,050 --> 03:12:30,490
make the difficult decisions, and still come back the next morning,

1840
03:12:30,490 --> 03:12:35,990
ready to keep moving this organization forward. This is what I see Jennifer doing.

1841
03:12:36,990 --> 03:12:42,090
Jennifer and I may not always see every issue exactly the same way and I actually believe that there

1842
03:12:42,090 --> 03:12:48,710
is value in that. What matters is that there is respect, trust, and a shared commitment

1843
03:12:48,710 --> 03:12:54,210
to doing what is best for Douglas County and I have tremendous respect for Jennifer

1844
03:12:54,210 --> 03:12:58,430
because I know her decisions come from a place of genuine care.

1845
03:12:58,730 --> 03:13:06,030
For this community, this organization, and especially for the people who come to work every day to make it to serve it.

1846
03:13:06,290 --> 03:13:10,790
I hope as we evaluate Jennifer, that we remember, we aren't simply evaluating a position,

1847
03:13:11,430 --> 03:13:18,490
we are evaluating a person who has an incredible amount of herself to this organization and this community.

1848
03:13:19,170 --> 03:13:23,670
Our employees are supporting, they're worth protecting, they're worth investing in.

1849
03:13:23,670 --> 03:13:28,410
And they deserve a leader who believes that too. I believe that we have that in Jennifer.

1850
03:13:30,410 --> 03:13:31,570
Thank you.

1851
03:13:40,890 --> 03:13:41,350
Jim Jackson,

1852
03:13:44,530 --> 03:13:52,630
I've dealt with two county managers of the two I prefer the present one.

1853
03:13:52,750 --> 03:13:56,270
Previous one was not trustworthy at all.

1854
03:13:59,100 --> 03:14:03,620
I don't always agree with everything that Jennifer has done or said.

1855
03:14:04,320 --> 03:14:07,940
If we did, I would think that would be not so good.

1856
03:14:09,520 --> 03:14:14,940
When I had a staff that worked for me, I wanted them to tell me exactly what they thought.

1857
03:14:16,100 --> 03:14:18,120
Whether they agreed with me or not.

1858
03:14:18,820 --> 03:14:23,200
Because if everybody agrees with you, you're not getting the truth out of the situation.

1859
03:14:26,610 --> 03:14:31,190
I think Jennifer has done a fairly decent job at communicating with us.

1860
03:14:31,190 --> 03:14:33,690
There's been several issues up in our neck of the woods

1861
03:14:33,690 --> 03:14:36,630
that we've been pretty hard on or about.

1862
03:14:38,030 --> 03:14:41,390
But I think most of the comments that you as a board

1863
03:14:41,980 --> 03:14:43,510
have said are very true.

1864
03:14:43,770 --> 03:14:46,030
You've given her very high marks in all areas.

1865
03:14:47,310 --> 03:14:48,790
I would agree with all of that.

1866
03:14:49,750 --> 03:14:52,770
Making mistakes, you name one person

1867
03:14:53,320 --> 03:14:56,210
in this whole county that has never made a mistake,

1868
03:14:58,700 --> 03:14:59,240
you'd be lying.

1869
03:15:00,880 --> 03:15:15,420
Mistakes happen and you grow from them. I made several big mistakes in my career and I grew from them. You learned from them. You don't ever fail at something, you never learn anything.

1870
03:15:15,420 --> 03:15:20,000
Constance success isn't good. You need to have some failures to learn.

1871
03:15:24,200 --> 03:15:25,640
If Jennifer is

1872
03:15:25,640 --> 03:15:33,900
as important to you as you have all stated, she deserves an increase. It's 3%, that's not

1873
03:15:33,900 --> 03:15:40,880
much, but it is recognition that she is important to you. You've stated that other places

1874
03:15:40,880 --> 03:15:46,980
are paying more money, are you trying to chase her away? I hope not. I think she's pretty

1875
03:15:46,980 --> 03:15:54,600
important to the county, everything. So it's real easy for all of us out here in the

1876
03:15:54,600 --> 03:16:01,480
peanut gallery to take shots at or into complaint, especially on social media. You're

1877
03:16:01,480 --> 03:16:06,520
doing it almost anonymously so you can say almost anything you want to. I was reading

1878
03:16:06,520 --> 03:16:12,720
a bunch of them this morning and all I can think is I don't think any one of them could

1879
03:16:12,720 --> 03:16:16,380
to do the job, but they can sure criticize it.

1880
03:16:16,720 --> 03:16:21,360
So I just laugh at those things because they're so useless.

1881
03:16:22,700 --> 03:16:28,340
So my recommendation is that you've given her a very high performance for you,

1882
03:16:28,640 --> 03:16:30,420
and that you do give her the merit increase.

1883
03:16:31,600 --> 03:16:35,780
So I want to deal with her over the next four years.

1884
03:16:36,180 --> 03:16:37,220
Thank you.

1885
03:16:37,800 --> 03:16:38,820
Thank you Mr. Jackson.

1886
03:16:38,820 --> 03:16:41,160
Additional public comment?

1887
03:16:43,420 --> 03:16:46,080
See, no additional public comment. We'll bring it back to the board.

1888
03:16:48,660 --> 03:16:49,380
Do you want to now?

1889
03:16:51,080 --> 03:17:03,440
I noted that on the agenda item page 391, the recommended motion is divided in three.

1890
03:17:03,840 --> 03:17:06,840
And I kind of like taking it like that.

1891
03:17:06,840 --> 03:17:12,580
The first part is approve that annual performance evaluation of Jennifer Davidson, Douglas County Manager.

1892
03:17:14,380 --> 03:17:25,680
So, I would make a motion that we find that Jennifer Davidson has exceeded expectations as county manager during the last year.

1893
03:17:29,700 --> 03:17:45,730
Okay, so we'll do this three part process so there's been a motion to find the county manager Jennifer Davidson as exceeding he said exceeding

1894
03:17:46,580 --> 03:17:55,240
Okay expectations and that's been seconded by Commissioner Rice is there any discussion and regard in that regard

1895
03:17:56,680 --> 03:18:04,820
see you in no discussion, although some favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes five to zero. Thank you.

1896
03:18:09,950 --> 03:18:17,350
I turned to someone else to talk about merit. Or we can skip, we can skip to goals and do those next. I have thoughts on goals.

1897
03:18:21,940 --> 03:18:24,960
I'm trying to get my computer back. I,

1898
03:18:27,180 --> 03:18:37,160
I, I, I, we can do it either way. You can do your goals and expectations and priorities now.

1899
03:18:37,160 --> 03:18:44,220
And then we can discuss merit or we can do merit and then do that, whichever the commissioners prefer.

1900
03:18:47,370 --> 03:18:47,790
Any feelings?

1901
03:18:49,590 --> 03:18:53,850
I personally would like to go to merit at the moment.

1902
03:18:54,750 --> 03:19:06,110
Doing this process, I'm reminded that the prior county manager and one member of the board said,

1903
03:19:06,110 --> 03:19:15,110
I give you a zero, you'll get a raise when I get one, and that is stuck with me for a very long time.

1904
03:19:16,190 --> 03:19:30,950
And I, for one, seeing as our rate of inflation is anywhere from 68%, I think that 3% merit increase would be minimal.

1905
03:19:31,510 --> 03:19:35,210
So, that's my top top American increase.

1906
03:19:38,060 --> 03:19:39,760
Hey, I have a motion. Do I have a second?

1907
03:19:43,030 --> 03:19:49,330
I think he, well, first of all, we don't have a second on that.

1908
03:19:49,710 --> 03:19:51,430
You're proposing a 3%.

1909
03:19:51,430 --> 03:19:55,550
I believe that as our maximum available is 3%.

1910
03:19:55,550 --> 03:19:57,370
So, is that right, miss Vio?

1911
03:19:57,870 --> 03:19:59,970
Okay, so last weekend.

1912
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:09,580
An entertain, a maximum of zero to, well, a maximum of three percent. So what, what is your motion so that we can entertain a second?

1913
03:20:10,540 --> 03:20:15,160
I moved it. We grant a three percent merit increase.

1914
03:20:17,730 --> 03:20:21,990
We have a second. Well, when you just second, and then we can have discussion.

1915
03:20:30,740 --> 03:20:37,860
I mean, I was saying to say, okay, we can ask us for a second. And if there's a amendment, there's an amendment that's offered to,

1916
03:20:38,660 --> 03:20:39,140
Okay,

1917
03:20:42,350 --> 03:20:44,010
you're not going to, huh?

1918
03:20:45,230 --> 03:20:51,590
Okay, for purposes of discussion, I will, I will, I will, I will second that motion myself.

1919
03:20:52,410 --> 03:20:57,630
Okay, so we have a motion on the floor and a second in regards to a 3% merit increase.

1920
03:20:58,090 --> 03:21:00,470
And now we can have discussion on that.

1921
03:21:02,220 --> 03:21:02,840
I was going to,

1922
03:21:04,580 --> 03:21:13,140
But then I was told that there was already a cost of living increase already, so that should be made clear.

1923
03:21:13,420 --> 03:21:17,340
And then you discuss what's about over and above the cost of that.

1924
03:21:17,800 --> 03:21:19,160
That is correct.

1925
03:21:19,800 --> 03:21:30,400
A re-employee, I believe, got a cost of living increase by contract on the first of July if I'm not mistaken.

1926
03:21:30,400 --> 03:21:33,900
and this we don't, can you, thank you for the question,

1927
03:21:34,160 --> 03:21:37,080
Christine Vito for the record, that is correct.

1928
03:21:37,280 --> 03:21:40,960
It was either allowed in contract or through a resolution

1929
03:21:40,960 --> 03:21:46,120
that was approved by this board in 2023 or 24, I believe.

1930
03:21:46,980 --> 03:21:51,160
And it was 2.9%.

1931
03:21:51,160 --> 03:21:52,520
This year it was 2.9.

1932
03:21:52,640 --> 03:21:53,020
Correct.

1933
03:21:53,720 --> 03:21:56,280
So we've had, we did, that answers your question.

1934
03:21:56,460 --> 03:21:58,620
I think Commissioner Rice and Commissioner Turkey,

1935
03:21:58,620 --> 03:22:05,740
is that we've given all of our employees including our county manager at 2.9 cost a living increase already.

1936
03:22:06,180 --> 03:22:10,320
So this is a merit increase over and above that cost a living increase.

1937
03:22:10,420 --> 03:22:17,710
That is correct, but that are all also are subject to up to a 3% merit on an annual basis.

1938
03:22:18,620 --> 03:22:25,940
Right. And my point is that even though we gave everybody a merit, I got to living

1939
03:22:25,940 --> 03:22:33,220
degrees. Look what we gave them compared to what the cost of living increase really is.

1940
03:22:34,040 --> 03:22:44,860
Everybody's going backwards and I think that Jennifer is more than earned a three percent

1941
03:22:44,860 --> 03:22:51,880
merit increase just for the things that the members of this board have commended for.

1942
03:22:51,880 --> 03:22:56,640
So that I'm sticking, that's my thought and I'm sticking to it.

1943
03:22:58,700 --> 03:23:02,960
So with that in mind, I'm going to go back to Christine Vito,

1944
03:23:03,220 --> 03:23:04,440
our human resources.

1945
03:23:06,200 --> 03:23:12,140
Because well, I want to ask about the cost of living increase

1946
03:23:12,140 --> 03:23:14,420
is based on what?

1947
03:23:15,380 --> 03:23:16,300
It's Chris Vito.

1948
03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:20,340
Christine Vito for the record.

1949
03:23:20,340 --> 03:23:22,500
I don't have a specific citation in front of me,

1950
03:23:22,660 --> 03:23:25,440
but it's based on the Western State CPI,

1951
03:23:25,840 --> 03:23:27,960
as of December 31st.

1952
03:23:33,550 --> 03:23:36,010
Thank you, Chairman Doug Richew with the District Attorney's Office.

1953
03:23:36,650 --> 03:23:40,550
Just to be clear, under Ms. Davidson's contract,

1954
03:23:44,010 --> 03:23:45,830
paragraphs seven B,

1955
03:23:46,730 --> 03:23:50,250
her salary adjustments, consisted two parts.

1956
03:23:50,370 --> 03:23:54,650
One is the, the cola, which is not tied to performance,

1957
03:23:54,650 --> 03:24:03,770
And then her performance adjustment is based on the same methodology that all the other exempt employees receive.

1958
03:24:04,270 --> 03:24:10,430
In other words, once the board has determined to see the expectations,

1959
03:24:10,590 --> 03:24:15,330
me the expectations, the different categories, the three, the two, one or whatever,

1960
03:24:16,290 --> 03:24:23,870
that actually informs what the increase should be under the terms of our contract.

1961
03:24:23,870 --> 03:24:31,030
In other words, I think Commissioner Rice indicated that it's not possible to give someone

1962
03:24:31,030 --> 03:24:33,870
exceeds expectation and not give them a raise.

1963
03:24:35,570 --> 03:24:38,550
That's not according to county policy or her contract.

1964
03:24:39,270 --> 03:24:42,990
So hopefully as you're having this discussion, that helps you.

1965
03:24:46,610 --> 03:24:47,790
Commissioners.

1966
03:24:51,700 --> 03:24:57,580
We want to grant a 3% merit raise. So what I read was

1967
03:25:01,010 --> 03:25:05,250
Let me see, I read that language, because I wondered about that.

1968
03:25:05,970 --> 03:25:06,190
Seven,

1969
03:25:10,910 --> 03:25:12,430
that's Kola,

1970
03:25:16,530 --> 03:25:24,210
seven C. In addition to the base salary set forth above county may award employee merit pay increases consistent with the amounts allowed.

1971
03:25:24,490 --> 03:25:37,610
Other exempt management employees. Any merit pay shall be based upon employee specific job performance in meeting mutually agreed upon priority goals, priorities goals and expectations for the previous year.

1972
03:25:37,610 --> 03:25:43,710
so it to section eight below. So I mean, I, I'm basing my statement on the expectation I

1973
03:25:43,710 --> 03:25:46,390
had that we wouldn't have a glitch like we had.

1974
03:25:51,740 --> 03:25:55,040
Are you? There was, there was a glitch,

1975
03:25:55,280 --> 03:26:04,160
but it was corrected. And it, it takes a very strong person to say, okay, what's, I messed up,

1976
03:26:04,160 --> 03:26:08,260
Let's go a different direction, which she did.

1977
03:26:09,840 --> 03:26:10,420
Agreed.

1978
03:26:11,300 --> 03:26:16,420
I wouldn't say it's corrected. I would say correcting will take some time. It is being corrected.

1979
03:26:19,740 --> 03:26:26,960
And for me, I think the maximum 3% should be reserved for an exceptional, exceptional year where

1980
03:26:26,960 --> 03:26:33,560
performance is above expectations across the board. And so I don't think we hit that across the board.

1981
03:26:33,560 --> 03:26:38,560
We had a very good year and I would be willing to, you know,

1982
03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:44,820
2% or somewhere there, I think would be reasonable because it is,

1983
03:26:44,820 --> 03:26:47,720
I agree with what we're saying with that.

1984
03:26:48,400 --> 03:26:53,660
My rating of above expectations averaged to above meeting expectations,

1985
03:26:53,840 --> 03:26:56,020
so that pushes me up into the above expectations.

1986
03:26:56,400 --> 03:26:59,280
So I'm fine with a merit increase,

1987
03:26:59,280 --> 03:27:28,140
But for just my personal opinion, is that it's got to be and how kind of I was raised in the employment world is you get that max when you are I can't you know you killed it and it's very hard to actually get to that max and so that's part of why you're working to get to that so that's where I would fall in this so my two bits are this I don't have any problem with her getting a 3% pay merit increase based upon her performance.

1988
03:27:28,140 --> 03:27:32,680
I don't hold. Well, first of all, I didn't vote for your advisory board to look into that

1989
03:27:32,680 --> 03:27:40,340
stormwater. So I'm washing my hands on that. But it isn't a matter of the job as you don't

1990
03:27:40,340 --> 03:27:45,880
not express my opinion on it. My concern is this, we're asking the residents of Douglas County

1991
03:27:45,880 --> 03:27:51,260
to pay more money for stormwater management. We've had to cut some things in the budget because

1992
03:27:51,260 --> 03:27:56,360
our budget is short. When you're looking at this as a job and a manager for this,

1993
03:27:56,360 --> 03:28:01,580
they're only going to give a merit pay raise if they have the money exceeds expenses and I think

1994
03:28:01,580 --> 03:28:06,600
these sure our expenses are really tight right now and I think Patrick K said one year he

1995
03:28:06,600 --> 03:28:13,780
didn't take a pay increase that he had because of the downturn in the economy I just think this

1996
03:28:13,780 --> 03:28:19,440
is a tough year for everybody. It has nothing to do with in my vote or what she's misdave us and

1997
03:28:19,440 --> 03:28:23,700
has done as a year but more in the tightness of the financial position of the county.

1998
03:28:32,040 --> 03:28:41,960
All right. Well, I mean, we have a motion on the table. Are you offering an amendment or is anybody offering an amendment or are we going to take a vote on the three percent?

1999
03:28:50,410 --> 03:28:55,410
I mean, since we're stuck here, I would offer an amendment to one and a half percent.

2000
03:28:58,030 --> 03:28:58,890
I'll suck at that.

2001
03:29:03,450 --> 03:29:03,450
Okay.

2002
03:29:07,160 --> 03:29:10,540
Okay. So we have a motion to amend the motion.

2003
03:29:10,540 --> 03:29:21,980
We have an amendment by Commission offered by Commissioner Hales, second by Commissioner Tarkain in to reduce the amount to from 3% down to 1.5% is that correct?

2004
03:29:22,720 --> 03:29:25,540
Okay, so now we need discussion on that.

2005
03:29:26,080 --> 03:29:30,440
Commissioner Rice, do you want to weigh in on that or I will?

2006
03:29:30,440 --> 03:29:41,020
or I personally believe that she's earned every dime of that 3% and nobody is going to

2007
03:29:41,020 --> 03:29:48,220
go through a year without making some missteps but when you correct those missteps, that

2008
03:29:48,220 --> 03:29:55,140
sings something about the employee. And sing is how we have one whole employee. I think that

2009
03:29:55,140 --> 03:29:59,980
He's done a commendable job, he is exceedant.

2010
03:30:00,900 --> 03:30:09,660
Expectations, she is always available to any of us at any time when we asked to meet with her.

2011
03:30:09,920 --> 03:30:16,320
And I think that that should be rewarded. So I'm sticking with my three percent.

2012
03:30:18,120 --> 03:30:19,460
Okay. Other commissions?

2013
03:30:23,820 --> 03:30:32,440
I personally feel like, you know, and we ran into this issue with with Patrick Kates.

2014
03:30:32,440 --> 03:30:52,440
where we gave him a rating that was higher than 2% but then we did not, or we gave him a rating that was at at or above expectations and then we denied him a pay increase based that year.

2015
03:30:53,260 --> 03:31:04,440
I and Commissioner Wes has indicated that that caused a lot of pain for him and I was

2016
03:31:04,440 --> 03:31:14,340
part of that and it offered it it created a lot of pain for me also but I certainly would

2017
03:31:14,340 --> 03:31:23,560
for to settle in the middle of between one and 3% at 2%, but I guess we can take a vote on it.

2018
03:31:25,420 --> 03:31:30,220
That's just, let's vote on the one and a half, and then you can make a different motion if you want.

2019
03:31:33,010 --> 03:31:33,250
Okay.

2020
03:31:34,750 --> 03:31:35,230
Okay.

2021
03:31:35,430 --> 03:31:43,970
So we have a motion on the floor to amend the original motion from 3% to one and a half percent.

2022
03:31:43,970 --> 03:31:51,350
and so without further discussion we'll vote on that. All those in favor of the amendment of

2023
03:31:51,350 --> 03:31:55,260
reducing amount of 3% to 1.5% signify by saying aye.

2024
03:32:05,140 --> 03:32:17,900
Mr. Chairman. Those against the reduction from 3 to 1.5 is fails. Okay, that fails. So now I will

2025
03:32:17,900 --> 03:32:20,040
offer a substitute motion.

2026
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:21,700
Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry.

2027
03:32:21,760 --> 03:32:23,240
If I may win the link for the record,

2028
03:32:23,400 --> 03:32:24,780
I am sorry to interrupt the proceedings.

2029
03:32:25,000 --> 03:32:27,660
I've been with the organization for a significant amount of time

2030
03:32:27,660 --> 03:32:29,760
and sat through many of these public evaluations.

2031
03:32:30,420 --> 03:32:32,900
And if you are all willing, I may offer a compromise,

2032
03:32:33,380 --> 03:32:35,040
which is a common practice of boards,

2033
03:32:35,520 --> 03:32:37,500
is to offer your individual ratings

2034
03:32:37,500 --> 03:32:40,180
and to average that total score.

2035
03:32:44,760 --> 03:32:49,080
The, you know, and I appreciate your input there.

2036
03:32:49,080 --> 03:32:56,180
However, we do have a motion on a floor and members of the public, which I consider you at this point in time.

2037
03:32:56,500 --> 03:33:01,060
This went, I appreciate the comments, but this is a discussion for us.

2038
03:33:03,560 --> 03:33:13,560
So anyways, I'm going to offer a motion to reduce the 3% down to 2%.

2039
03:33:15,140 --> 03:33:24,760
So we have a motion on a floor to grant a three percent raise versus a three percent. That is an amended motion.

2040
03:33:25,340 --> 03:33:30,840
Amendment and a second by Commissioner Tolbert. Discussion?

2041
03:33:31,620 --> 03:33:32,380
Does that mean no discussion?

2042
03:33:33,640 --> 03:33:34,640
Oh, yes.

2043
03:33:35,020 --> 03:33:37,180
Okay, all those in favor. No, no, no discussion.

2044
03:33:37,600 --> 03:33:38,980
Oh, you want discussion. I'm sorry.

2045
03:33:40,620 --> 03:33:45,240
I want the vote to be unanimous, so I'm happy going to two.

2046
03:33:48,990 --> 03:33:57,430
Okay, and let me sort of like two cents, and I voted my conscience, and I will have to

2047
03:33:59,910 --> 03:34:03,670
re-link and vote for the two percent.

2048
03:34:04,430 --> 03:34:09,530
And I think that now we're at ought to be, but I think it's better than one and a half.

2049
03:34:09,530 --> 03:34:24,050
Okay, so we have a motion on the floor, an amendment to reduce it from 3 to 2, and since we've had all this discussion, all those in favor of a reduction from 3 to 2, signify by say an I.

2050
03:34:25,170 --> 03:34:37,410
Okay, so that motion passes 5 to 0, now we go to the original motion as amended, which is to grant a 2% raise merit raise to Mr. Davidson for her performance.

2051
03:34:38,430 --> 03:34:42,970
Okay, since he know whether to question all those in favor of a 2% raise, signify by saying aye.

2052
03:34:42,970 --> 03:34:43,550
Hi.

2053
03:34:44,990 --> 03:34:46,730
That motion passes by to zero.

2054
03:34:52,410 --> 03:34:53,190
We have to do that.

2055
03:34:53,190 --> 03:34:54,750
That's proper procedure too.

2056
03:34:54,810 --> 03:34:58,010
I'm in the motion and in vote on the motion is presented.

2057
03:34:58,990 --> 03:34:59,530
Mr. Davidson.

2058
03:35:02,510 --> 03:35:15,070
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Commission, I appreciate and humbled by the merit increase and I thank you for that. I'm looking forward to hearing some feedback regarding your priorities now. I think that's the only remaining piece.

2059
03:35:15,430 --> 03:35:27,810
That's where we're headed next. Okay. And so Commissioner Rice did you have any priorities or goals for Mr. Davidson and the next fiscal year.

2060
03:35:31,970 --> 03:35:32,950
Commissioner Rice.

2061
03:35:35,660 --> 03:35:43,580
I'm muted muted me. I would very much like to see KL complete street to get complete.

2062
03:35:45,220 --> 03:35:49,440
That's one of the things that since I got elected the first time.

2063
03:35:50,200 --> 03:35:57,680
It was on my radar and we went back to Washington DC and talked to the right people.

2064
03:35:57,680 --> 03:36:06,160
we got a beautiful grant and unfortunately it's taken so long that things are in more expensive

2065
03:36:06,160 --> 03:36:13,800
than they were, but I think that this is something that needs to be done because that street was never

2066
03:36:15,380 --> 03:36:24,340
ever built to get the traffic that it gets now. So I would like to see that none although I

2067
03:36:24,340 --> 03:36:29,380
be here to see it. Well, I mean, I'll be here to see it, but I won't be on this board.

2068
03:36:29,860 --> 03:36:36,480
Thank you. Thank you. Yes, I'm glad you clarified that. Okay. Yeah. We certainly hope that you

2069
03:36:36,480 --> 03:36:42,280
are able to visually see it. So, when it's done, Commissioner Hales, did you have this?

2070
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:52,840
I appreciate Commissioner Toberts, goals. And I'm looking at pages three and four of the goals

2071
03:36:52,840 --> 03:36:56,540
that County Manager Davidson already set out.

2072
03:36:56,800 --> 03:37:01,840
And I think what you lined out lines up with what

2073
03:37:05,050 --> 03:37:08,810
County Manager Davidson already had articulated,

2074
03:37:09,350 --> 03:37:10,810
and I support those goals.

2075
03:37:10,850 --> 03:37:14,650
I support all the goals provided by Mr. Davidson.

2076
03:37:15,310 --> 03:37:18,310
But I want to add a couple more because I re-read this

2077
03:37:18,310 --> 03:37:26,910
plan and a few bounce to the top for me. The lands bill, very, very important. I would

2078
03:37:26,910 --> 03:37:34,190
like to continue. I believe some of the things are going to complete, like the justice center,

2079
03:37:34,370 --> 03:37:39,170
will complete and maybe some other things will complete and allow some bandwidth. To the extent

2080
03:37:39,170 --> 03:37:47,070
there is bandwidth, I would like to pick up attainable workforce housing in a more robust way.

2081
03:37:48,310 --> 03:37:55,900
And I was reminded that we have a river park, strategic

2082
03:37:55,900 --> 03:37:56,960
plan goal.

2083
03:37:57,700 --> 03:38:00,940
And that is very exciting to me.

2084
03:38:01,240 --> 03:38:05,860
And I would like to work on that as bandwidth

2085
03:38:06,580 --> 03:38:09,580
from more pressing matters allows.

2086
03:38:14,000 --> 03:38:14,160
Yeah.

2087
03:38:15,020 --> 03:38:17,680
I've said this over and over again, just say it again,

2088
03:38:18,800 --> 03:38:25,140
stormwater, maintenance, and infrastructure, and road funding are the two most

2089
03:38:25,140 --> 03:38:27,300
support things for this county at this point.

2090
03:38:27,400 --> 03:38:29,580
They've been kicked down the road for far too long.

2091
03:38:32,800 --> 03:38:38,200
I'd like to reiterate mine, because I love this community.

2092
03:38:38,600 --> 03:38:44,600
I work in and out of the county on both sides of the counter, and I really appreciate

2093
03:38:44,600 --> 03:38:53,580
that we have, I think it was said at the recently that we have the best staff in all of the nation.

2094
03:38:53,680 --> 03:38:55,320
I think it was at the Parks and Rec advisory.

2095
03:38:55,900 --> 03:38:58,720
I think somebody made that statement and I was like, wow, that's high praise.

2096
03:38:59,640 --> 03:39:00,300
And I don't disagree.

2097
03:39:01,380 --> 03:39:07,840
So I think it's important that we work to rebuild or actually just build the, you know,

2098
03:39:07,980 --> 03:39:09,760
our county's organizational credibility.

2099
03:39:10,700 --> 03:39:19,480
And that's got to come from the inside out, and to do that we have to, you know, just make sure we're applying standards consistently holding ourselves as standards.

2100
03:39:20,180 --> 03:39:21,240
We expect from the public.

2101
03:39:22,040 --> 03:39:29,960
We value the real world experience, you know, many of our ranchers alongside, you know, the technical, the just ideas, you know.

2102
03:39:30,900 --> 03:39:35,760
And that we empower our employees so that they are in.

2103
03:39:35,760 --> 03:39:39,720
They feel comfortable in their environment so that when they do see things that are like,

2104
03:39:39,780 --> 03:39:46,400
ah, maybe not right, even if they're co-worker, that they're free to bring it to their administrators and so that,

2105
03:39:47,380 --> 03:39:56,600
so that because we're all here basically the serve of the public and I know the county is an organization of its own and when you work for an organization you're to protect it,

2106
03:39:56,780 --> 03:39:59,960
but we're going for the county it's unique because the county

2107
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:07,260
Many serves the public, you know, it's not like we make widgets and we can protect our processes of building widgets. We have to protect our processes of serving the public.

2108
03:40:08,380 --> 03:40:24,480
And it pains me that, you know, we have to build credibility because I know so many employees personally and know how good that they are and how they come to work every day, planning and working to do a good job and support the public.

2109
03:40:24,480 --> 03:40:30,360
And it's really not fair that we have that stigma other than it's happened here and there

2110
03:40:30,360 --> 03:40:34,840
point, you know, once in a while, but, you know, you know, I say it all the time and it was

2111
03:40:34,840 --> 03:40:38,820
what my very first job was, one O'Crap was where a five out of ways.

2112
03:40:39,480 --> 03:40:43,760
So you got to build up those out of ways to gain the credibility and so I think that's somehow

2113
03:40:43,760 --> 03:40:45,280
we work to do that.

2114
03:40:45,860 --> 03:40:48,080
So those are the two big ones for me.

2115
03:40:48,080 --> 03:40:53,120
And then we can always build communication and I know that's kind of personal for me to help

2116
03:40:53,120 --> 03:41:01,960
you know what, what do we know, what is our knowledge base in every, every topic, which will never be perfect, but it's always something to build on.

2117
03:41:02,840 --> 03:41:03,760
Thank you.

2118
03:41:04,960 --> 03:41:19,700
So I appreciate that you gave us a spreadsheet in regards to completion or percent completion of the strategic plan and of course that that directly ties into your job description and so I appreciate this update.

2119
03:41:21,620 --> 03:41:33,360
And we discussed this last year is that there's a key line up on that strategic plan and it says that it's a five-year strategic plan, not a one-year strategic plan.

2120
03:41:35,900 --> 03:41:40,980
I, we have a lot of balls in here, and I don't know all the balls that you have in

2121
03:41:40,980 --> 03:41:41,180
here.

2122
03:41:41,200 --> 03:41:50,720
I just know the ones that are on my radar, and so I'm concerned about burnout, okay?

2123
03:41:51,360 --> 03:41:52,860
And I don't want that to occur.

2124
03:41:54,780 --> 03:42:00,680
And I feel like there have been times where maybe we've approached subjects on a more aggressive

2125
03:42:00,680 --> 03:42:08,280
manner than we really need to. Okay? I would like us to, as I indicated last year, pump the

2126
03:42:08,280 --> 03:42:14,220
brakes a little bit, okay? And slow the process down a little bit, and let some of these

2127
03:42:14,220 --> 03:42:21,640
issues that we have in front of us come to a conclusion before we take on additional roles.

2128
03:42:22,520 --> 03:42:26,960
In that regard, but there is one in particular, and you and I have talked about it,

2129
03:42:26,960 --> 03:42:37,660
I've watched you in meetings that I've been in, in your office, and you have identified

2130
03:42:37,660 --> 03:42:46,520
as I identified our website is really, really a need of an update, okay?

2131
03:42:47,460 --> 03:42:54,560
We need to talk more about and illustrate to the public more about the good things we're

2132
03:42:54,560 --> 03:43:01,760
doing rather than the constant issue that, you know, if you have a problem here, go here.

2133
03:43:01,880 --> 03:43:07,560
If you have a problem here, go here, you have a problem here, go here, talk in about what

2134
03:43:07,560 --> 03:43:13,140
we are achieving in the county because we are achieving many great things and many things

2135
03:43:13,140 --> 03:43:16,660
that we should highlight and be proud of.

2136
03:43:17,440 --> 03:43:24,200
So to me getting that website done is very important and I've been talking about this

2137
03:43:24,200 --> 03:43:34,300
a long time. So and I know that we've hired a person in the IT department to create that

2138
03:43:34,300 --> 03:43:41,760
and I hope that we're seeing progress on that. We're tackling Title 20 right now and that is a

2139
03:43:41,760 --> 03:43:49,660
heavy lift also and that is I don't know how far along we are on that but I know we're looking

2140
03:43:49,660 --> 03:43:56,940
at the 17th or maybe early October of looking at at least approving perhaps the formatting process

2141
03:43:56,940 --> 03:44:00,730
of that, but there's still a lot of red lines that are going to have to come before us.

2142
03:44:02,100 --> 03:44:06,700
With that being said, I, you know, that's that's an important aspect that's been something

2143
03:44:06,700 --> 03:44:12,110
that's been lacking for a number of years. And so I look forward to that in the clarification of

2144
03:44:12,910 --> 03:44:20,530
On the other hand, I think we had identified as an update for the master plan to be taken

2145
03:44:20,530 --> 03:44:22,270
a look at in 2027.

2146
03:44:23,650 --> 03:44:32,770
I would suggest that maybe this is music to Tom's ears, that we delay taking a look at the master

2147
03:44:32,770 --> 03:44:38,630
plan until we have an offer, you know, and I remember the last time it was updated in 2020.

2148
03:44:38,630 --> 03:44:43,670
It was rushed, it was heard,

2149
03:44:46,270 --> 03:44:56,710
and I know commissioners were leaving the board and very interested in getting that title 20 or a master plan updated, but let's not rush that thing.

2150
03:44:57,390 --> 03:44:59,970
Okay, let's not rush it. Let's take our time.

2151
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:12,400
And make sure we do it right. And make sure that we have enough public comments, public outreach, and enough thought process, put into that. And let's not rush that.

2152
03:45:13,800 --> 03:45:22,540
So, but I know that we have a number of issues that we try to, we want to try to resolve. One of those is on the schedule today, pain and drop mine.

2153
03:45:22,540 --> 03:45:28,500
But we need to get through the Park Litigation, hopefully the lands bill will be passed this year.

2154
03:45:28,740 --> 03:45:39,100
And I just read a big article from Congressman Amade that he is hoping that that is signed into law early early in the next in January.

2155
03:45:39,880 --> 03:45:45,880
Okay, I believe he said he's bringing it to Congress in September if I read that correctly.

2156
03:45:46,460 --> 03:45:50,080
So that's good and hopefully we can get that done.

2157
03:45:53,180 --> 03:46:02,860
And I spent a couple of hours giving end audit tour on Wednesday, or Tuesday, I guess it was Tuesday.

2158
03:46:03,520 --> 03:46:07,140
And I think that was very fruitful, but there's a number of things that we have pending on there.

2159
03:46:08,160 --> 03:46:12,500
And one of those is obviously the extension of Instagram day and completing that.

2160
03:46:13,040 --> 03:46:19,220
So anyways, I think we have enough on our plate to do already without entertaining new ideas.

2161
03:46:19,220 --> 03:46:25,800
Okay, get the Justice Center open, let's get, see if we get some resolution on Mueller, but

2162
03:46:25,800 --> 03:46:32,240
perhaps take a pause on looking at the master plan until maybe 28, instead of 27, after

2163
03:46:32,240 --> 03:46:38,360
title 20 is done. That's my thoughts. Those are my, but the website is, is very important.

2164
03:46:38,760 --> 03:46:45,520
Website is very important. Okay. I did notice, you know, and we talked about this, I think you put it in your plan. Also,

2165
03:46:48,340 --> 03:46:55,740
With all the little disasters that we had recently fires, especially, we need to, once again,

2166
03:46:56,780 --> 03:47:01,120
highlight how an individual in this community goes about signing out for reverse 911.

2167
03:47:02,120 --> 03:47:04,860
Okay, that needs to be on the top also.

2168
03:47:05,840 --> 03:47:15,380
I move that we direct Mr. Davidson to move forward with the goals, expectations and priorities

2169
03:47:16,340 --> 03:47:24,760
articulated in her letter and in the strategic plan and to the extent possible as discussed

2170
03:47:24,760 --> 03:47:27,580
today by the commissioners.

2171
03:47:28,200 --> 03:47:42,700
Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Hale, second by Commissioner Turkainian, to direct the county manager to go forward with the goals, expectations of priorities set forth in her plan.

2172
03:47:45,780 --> 03:47:47,360
Any further discussion on that?

2173
03:47:48,020 --> 03:47:49,880
All those in favor of signify for say aye.

2174
03:47:50,420 --> 03:47:50,600
Aye.

2175
03:47:51,220 --> 03:47:51,240
Aye.

2176
03:47:51,240 --> 03:47:52,660
Okay, motion passes by to zero.

2177
03:47:53,340 --> 03:47:55,320
And I think that completes this item.

2178
03:47:56,020 --> 03:47:56,940
Does it not?

2179
03:47:58,040 --> 03:47:58,320
Okay.

2180
03:48:00,860 --> 03:48:26,200
So I'm looking at my agenda and it says that we have one other item on today's agenda besides our presentations and closing public comment I would recommend we delay taking a break for nourishment and take a 10 minute break will come back at 2 o'clock and take on the item that we said that we would not hear before to be

2181
03:48:26,920 --> 03:48:34,500
notice the termination from Knox, because I don't think we can get lunch in 10 minutes, do you

2182
03:48:37,350 --> 03:48:40,270
guys want to take a lunch? You want lunch?

2183
03:48:43,150 --> 03:48:56,030
Okay, we're going to recess now and I said that this item, it says on the agenda will not be heard before 2pm. So I'm going to give us an hour and 10 break and say that we'll be back and return into session at 3 o'clock.

2184
03:48:58,190 --> 03:48:58,670
OK.

2185
03:49:05,780 --> 03:49:10,040
OK. We'll take an hour. We'll return it to 45. Thank you.

2186
03:49:10,300 --> 03:49:11,260
All right. Thank you.

2187
04:43:23,180 --> 04:43:24,460
I was wondering who killed.

2188
04:43:27,200 --> 04:43:45,760
Okay. Okay. It is, it is, it is 12. It is, so it is 246. And so we're going to resume our meeting. We have a couple of items left on the agenda today. This one is item 141 for possible action.

2189
04:43:45,760 --> 04:43:51,000
Continued discussion regarding a notice determination, knocks, excavating, and incorporated

2190
04:43:51,000 --> 04:43:58,800
sent to Douglas County pertaining to the October 4, 2024 agreement to address public health

2191
04:43:58,800 --> 04:44:03,340
and safety concerns and to pay percentage of gross proceeds from the mining operation

2192
04:44:03,340 --> 04:44:11,960
related to the painted rock mine document number 2024 dash 1013250 discussion may include

2193
04:44:11,960 --> 04:44:16,200
providing direction to the county manager to prepare a response in form

2194
04:44:16,200 --> 04:44:21,500
interested parties and taking other appropriate action. This being presented by our

2195
04:44:21,500 --> 04:44:25,920
county manager, Jennifer Davis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Commission,

2196
04:44:26,120 --> 04:44:29,900
Jennifer Davis and county manager for the record. And if you can't tell, I'm feeling a

2197
04:44:29,900 --> 04:44:36,940
little bit under the weather and have been coughing quite a bit today. So I am not going to be

2198
04:44:36,940 --> 04:44:38,660
as thorough as I normally would.

2199
04:44:38,860 --> 04:44:41,780
This is a repeat, bring back of an agenda item

2200
04:44:42,400 --> 04:44:44,460
that you heard at your last board meeting.

2201
04:44:45,140 --> 04:44:48,640
If you want me to get into the history of how we got here,

2202
04:44:48,640 --> 04:44:50,120
I'm happy to do so.

2203
04:44:50,180 --> 04:44:52,040
I would defer to you on that.

2204
04:44:52,580 --> 04:44:54,780
Otherwise, I'm planning on cutting to the chase.

2205
04:44:55,560 --> 04:44:57,280
As part of our previous board action,

2206
04:44:58,080 --> 04:44:59,960
this board directed the county manager.

2207
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:08,500
To bring back options for your consideration regarding next steps after meeting with the mine operators.

2208
04:45:09,780 --> 04:45:17,740
I am pleased to report that I was able to meet with the mine operators and Commissioner Tolbert participated in that conversation.

2209
04:45:18,600 --> 04:45:27,240
Please, Commissioner Tolbert, if you feel that I'm missing anything with my cough syrup, adult brain, to a feel free to jump in.

2210
04:45:27,240 --> 04:45:35,040
But you are aware we had an agreement that we executed with the operators of the mine in October of 2024.

2211
04:45:36,460 --> 04:45:42,200
We had an ordinance that we passed that restricted trucks on East Valley, which resulted in them.

2212
04:45:42,540 --> 04:45:46,240
The mine operators issuing through their legal counsel a notice of default.

2213
04:45:47,240 --> 04:45:49,560
We met with them, we discussed it.

2214
04:45:50,140 --> 04:45:52,200
We sent a response to the notice of default.

2215
04:45:52,200 --> 04:45:58,440
they sent a notice of termination effective July 29th with which brought us to our last meeting's conversation.

2216
04:45:59,360 --> 04:46:02,280
We talked about potential next steps at that last meeting.

2217
04:46:03,620 --> 04:46:07,440
We talked about the consequences of not having this agreement in place.

2218
04:46:08,160 --> 04:46:13,920
And I went through the agreement language, the terms of the agreement, what we negotiated,

2219
04:46:13,920 --> 04:46:24,380
versus the EA assumptions that were made in where the basis for the findings of no significant impact for the mind.

2220
04:46:26,080 --> 04:46:37,040
Ultimately, what this means is because there are no similar type restrictions on the federal or state permits that have been issued to the mind.

2221
04:46:37,040 --> 04:46:46,560
There would not be any operating restrictions placed on the mind regarding hours of operation, days of the week,

2222
04:46:47,260 --> 04:46:53,360
number of trucks. Those are not conditions that are currently within the federal or state permits.

2223
04:46:54,820 --> 04:47:00,140
Staff recommended to you originally. This is page two of those in case anyone wanted to look at that.

2224
04:47:00,140 --> 04:47:02,460
Well, let you look really quickly.

2225
04:47:04,360 --> 04:47:06,360
I see Commissioner Tarkinian to take a screenshot.

2226
04:47:07,180 --> 04:47:08,820
Happy to.

2227
04:47:09,100 --> 04:47:10,340
Yeah, I thought I gave it.

2228
04:47:10,340 --> 04:47:11,560
Mom, I'm sorry about that, sir.

2229
04:47:12,720 --> 04:47:12,880
Okay.

2230
04:47:13,600 --> 04:47:14,900
So where are we at?

2231
04:47:15,620 --> 04:47:18,500
So I considered the meeting with a minor operators

2232
04:47:18,500 --> 04:47:20,880
to be a very productive conversation.

2233
04:47:25,160 --> 04:47:27,120
They are in the audience today.

2234
04:47:27,300 --> 04:47:29,180
And I also encourage you, Mr. Chairman,

2235
04:47:29,300 --> 04:47:29,740
if you agree.

2236
04:47:29,740 --> 04:47:33,320
It's appropriate to provide them an opportunity to comment

2237
04:47:34,100 --> 04:47:36,140
what they're willing to do moving forward

2238
04:47:36,140 --> 04:47:38,300
and confirm what I'm stating on the record today.

2239
04:47:38,400 --> 04:47:39,560
I think that would be valuable.

2240
04:47:41,440 --> 04:47:45,260
But they were reluctant to withdraw their notice

2241
04:47:45,260 --> 04:47:46,460
of termination.

2242
04:47:47,840 --> 04:47:51,200
In addition to the recommendations or the option

2243
04:47:51,200 --> 04:47:52,900
that I presented the County Commission,

2244
04:47:53,220 --> 04:47:58,080
which would be for you to discuss whether or not

2245
04:47:58,080 --> 04:48:08,960
we respond or take a formal position regarding the status of our agreement, we stated clearly

2246
04:48:08,960 --> 04:48:13,320
on the record and have communicated to the minor operators that we do not believe we are

2247
04:48:13,320 --> 04:48:19,320
in default. We do not believe in the action that we have taken to this point places us in default.

2248
04:48:20,760 --> 04:48:27,160
And as of now, unless this board takes any further action, otherwise we consider this agreement

2249
04:48:27,160 --> 04:48:34,620
to still be in place. Part of your consideration and discussion today could be to provide me

2250
04:48:34,620 --> 04:48:40,960
direction regarding any further action you wish me to take on that agreement. Legal or otherwise.

2251
04:48:43,060 --> 04:48:49,740
We hit pause on my recommendation to notify the federal in state agencies. I had provided in the board

2252
04:48:49,740 --> 04:49:16,160
packet at our last meeting, draft letter, advising the federal agencies and state agencies of the consequences of the agreement not being in place and asking them to consider placing restrictions on the operations of the mind consistent with either are agreement or the assumptions made in the EA, whichever they felt were most appropriate.

2253
04:49:17,840 --> 04:49:27,360
So that's option one. Option two was brought up is part of our conversation. The mine operators

2254
04:49:27,360 --> 04:49:33,340
indicated that they may be willing to enter into an amended agreement with two terms remaining

2255
04:49:33,340 --> 04:49:42,300
only. Those two terms would be that the county would agree to take and that's the or on this page

2256
04:49:42,300 --> 04:49:50,180
at the bottom, the county would agree to place no restrictions on trucks on Johnson Lane and

2257
04:49:50,180 --> 04:49:54,460
then Knox would agree to continue to contribute a portion of the sales from the proceeds

2258
04:49:54,460 --> 04:49:59,980
of the mine to the county, no other terms or operating conditions.

2259
04:50:03,780 --> 04:50:12,060
That is the only option that we discussed in that meeting. Regardless of the option you, as a board

2260
04:50:12,060 --> 04:50:19,820
choose to pursue today, I also felt it was good byproduct of our conversation with the mine

2261
04:50:19,820 --> 04:50:29,560
operators that we agreed to clarify how complaints would be handled from the mind moving forward.

2262
04:50:31,340 --> 04:50:44,940
We talked about the need to update the county's website and to direct members of the public to the appropriate entity to address the type of concern that they may have.

2263
04:50:44,940 --> 04:50:51,180
We talked about continuing to take in complaints and sharing those complaints with the

2264
04:50:51,180 --> 04:50:51,860
mine operators.

2265
04:50:52,540 --> 04:50:59,620
If it's a complaint that cannot otherwise be funneled to an entity, we talked about continuing

2266
04:50:59,620 --> 04:51:02,960
our practice of passing along that information to the mine operator.

2267
04:51:03,560 --> 04:51:09,900
And if they chose to respond that we would provide that information on the county's web

2268
04:51:09,900 --> 04:51:10,380
pages.

2269
04:51:11,640 --> 04:51:15,540
Commissioner Tolberra, I feel like there's something else very important that I'm leaving out.

2270
04:51:15,540 --> 04:51:17,900
And I'm totally drawing a blanket at the moment.

2271
04:51:22,110 --> 04:51:26,330
No, you're looking at me like maybe it might pop up as we're talking.

2272
04:51:27,970 --> 04:51:32,430
I very much appreciate the willingness of the mine operators to meet with us.

2273
04:51:33,690 --> 04:51:41,330
They stated at multiple points in the conversation that it is their intent to operate within the parameters

2274
04:51:41,330 --> 04:51:46,630
that they represented were the basis of the assumptions in the E.A.

2275
04:51:48,630 --> 04:51:52,330
And with your permission, Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure if there's anything else they wish to say,

2276
04:51:52,570 --> 04:51:55,050
but I think it would be appropriate to invite them up.

2277
04:51:57,250 --> 04:51:59,150
I'm sorry. I didn't have my microphone on.

2278
04:52:00,090 --> 04:52:05,410
You know, this is an actionable item, so we need to have public comment,

2279
04:52:05,590 --> 04:52:11,790
but I want to hear from the rest of the commission on where, you know, what they feel or questions.

2280
04:52:13,050 --> 04:52:19,630
entertain questions, observations, you know, Commissioner Rice, are you back with us again?

2281
04:52:22,640 --> 04:52:28,780
Yes, sir, I am and I was here. I just couldn't click on my move, unmoot meton.

2282
04:52:30,140 --> 04:52:38,120
Thank you. Do you have any questions or concerns or observations for Mr. Davidson in regards to the Knox agreement?

2283
04:52:38,840 --> 04:52:44,920
No, I want to see what the noxious to say.

2284
04:52:45,060 --> 04:52:45,640
Okay.

2285
04:52:55,050 --> 04:52:58,830
I thank you commissioner Tolbert for signaling to me that I did forget one thing.

2286
04:52:59,530 --> 04:53:00,390
We did.

2287
04:53:01,070 --> 04:53:03,890
In chatting about.

2288
04:53:03,990 --> 04:53:09,670
The counties agreeing to place no restrictions on trucks on Johnson Lane.

2289
04:53:09,930 --> 04:53:15,750
I think commissioner Tolbert brought up a good discussion point, which is what if something from a public health or see

2290
04:53:15,750 --> 04:53:22,830
standpoint changes. For example, what if we needed to reduce speeds because there became an unsafe

2291
04:53:22,830 --> 04:53:28,710
condition on Johnson Lane or what if the board needed to consider directing staff to places

2292
04:53:28,710 --> 04:53:29,690
a stop sign?

2293
04:53:32,310 --> 04:53:35,430
I don't want to put words in their mouth, but I do believe they represented that

2294
04:53:35,430 --> 04:53:41,110
they would be okay with those types of changes in response to legitimate public health and safety concerns.

2295
04:53:41,110 --> 04:53:50,350
I think they were more concerned about placing restrictions regarding hours of operation

2296
04:53:50,350 --> 04:53:59,030
or just general, no truck restrictions on Johnson, which we indicated we are not considering

2297
04:53:59,030 --> 04:54:00,910
doing, we would not do.

2298
04:54:02,010 --> 04:54:03,510
The no truck sometimes I mean.

2299
04:54:03,510 --> 04:54:22,430
We did chat about if we continue to receive complaints regarding speeding on Johnson Lane that we might want to bring back the placement of traffic control radar solar power.

2300
04:54:22,430 --> 04:54:27,670
you've seen them on Riverview. I'm totally drawing the blank on what those are called. But they

2301
04:54:27,670 --> 04:54:32,490
tell people how fast they're going and they record and so it would help us capture some data.

2302
04:54:33,670 --> 04:54:42,190
If we see speeds in the area taking up the sheriff's office, it helps the sheriff's office also stay

2303
04:54:42,190 --> 04:54:46,310
on top of that instead of just relying on neighbors to say, I think people are speeding up their

2304
04:54:46,310 --> 04:54:52,530
share of come out and enforce it. Is that what you were thinking? Sorry. Yeah, that's exactly

2305
04:54:52,530 --> 04:54:57,090
because that's one of the one of the contentions is that the public is saying the trucks

2306
04:54:57,090 --> 04:54:59,970
are speeding. We forward that to the share, if he puts-

2307
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:08,040
It's the patrols out there, patrols say when we're there, the trucks aren't speeding. And so this would be a way to document that when the cat's away, right?

2308
04:55:08,360 --> 04:55:16,980
So that was one of the things that we had talked about to, because then we could document it, and then the chef, as they look, they are out there. Let's go get it, or it's not.

2309
04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:28,880
And it would help, plus if it flashes the sign, what the speed is, when they're out there, and it would help everybody understand what is what out there, and we would have documented data moving forward.

2310
04:55:30,460 --> 04:55:32,380
Thank you Commissioner Toler for.

2311
04:55:32,560 --> 04:55:39,180
And Knox was a hundred percent okay with that because they still believe that their vehicles are compliant.

2312
04:55:40,120 --> 04:55:43,120
And like I said to this point we don't have any evidence that they're not.

2313
04:55:44,040 --> 04:55:44,280
So.

2314
04:55:44,540 --> 04:55:47,920
It has been the experience of our public works department.

2315
04:55:48,500 --> 04:55:56,200
Just based on the data we've collected on Riverview that that type of signage and equipment is very effective in changing behavior.

2316
04:55:57,720 --> 04:56:03,520
And also from an enforcement standpoint, it's very incredibly helpful to the sheriff's office.

2317
04:56:04,620 --> 04:56:11,240
I am aware of another area, not river view, where we had signage up like that.

2318
04:56:11,380 --> 04:56:14,880
And someone was doing 60 miles an hour in a 25 mile an hour zone.

2319
04:56:15,180 --> 04:56:22,980
And because of the way that equipment is designed, the sheriff was able to capture that person.

2320
04:56:22,980 --> 04:56:25,180
We knew time of day, we knew patterns of behavior,

2321
04:56:25,380 --> 04:56:28,680
and they were able to end up writing someone

2322
04:56:28,680 --> 04:56:31,020
a very hefty ticket, because they caught them

2323
04:56:31,020 --> 04:56:33,500
on a different day, doing the same thing.

2324
04:56:35,620 --> 04:56:37,640
So that concludes my report.

2325
04:56:37,680 --> 04:56:38,520
Happy day and our answer.

2326
04:56:38,580 --> 04:56:39,980
Any questions you might have?

2327
04:56:41,540 --> 04:56:44,220
Commissioner Hills, for Kenyan, over.

2328
04:56:44,680 --> 04:56:45,500
OK, I had no questions.

2329
04:56:46,000 --> 04:56:49,060
So should we bring the knocks up to?

2330
04:56:49,120 --> 04:56:52,240
Is that what you were indicating before we go into public comment?

2331
04:56:52,240 --> 04:56:58,300
Yes, Mr. Chairman, only if they have something to add to the conversation, I don't want them to feel like they're required to stay there.

2332
04:56:58,600 --> 04:57:00,960
They're not required. No, they're not on a time clock.

2333
04:57:10,150 --> 04:57:13,090
And John, I'm not going to limit you to three minutes either, so if you have more.

2334
04:57:13,390 --> 04:57:18,490
I don't know if we don't have the answer to respond on the record. So John Max, well, not just excavating.

2335
04:57:19,170 --> 04:57:22,870
I appreciate the opportunity to meet and discuss this.

2336
04:57:22,870 --> 04:57:31,830
The OR is, yeah, that's, I don't know what it is, just, I don't want to get back to where we were before and now we're

2337
04:57:32,970 --> 04:57:39,210
now we're suing and going back to court. So those two, if you guys want to do another agreement,

2338
04:57:39,330 --> 04:57:43,450
that's what we offered just like we did in our letters that we're still willing to negotiate.

2339
04:57:45,170 --> 04:58:06,730
That gives the county some money so if you go in after federal grants for federal lands access that helps check a box to get grant money for the road and it gives us peace of mind that we aren't going to sit up here again trying to defend our right to use a public road.

2340
04:58:08,050 --> 04:58:12,710
But I don't have outside of that, I don't have anything else to add and I appreciate your time. Thank you.

2341
04:58:12,710 --> 04:58:24,630
Can you elaborate on that because you've explained it pretty well about if that fee goes away because it's argued that the fee is not worth messing with but at the same time that fee checks a box for future grants.

2342
04:58:24,630 --> 04:58:27,850
because you eat, so the federal land's access program,

2343
04:58:29,090 --> 04:58:32,310
it's for reconstructing and maintaining roads

2344
04:58:32,830 --> 04:58:35,270
that provide direct access in the public lands,

2345
04:58:35,470 --> 04:58:38,930
two of the criteria for getting access to that money,

2346
04:58:39,150 --> 04:58:41,590
it's one of the lowest match money, it's 5% match.

2347
04:58:43,870 --> 04:58:47,790
So for $500,000, you can get $11,000,000 with those funds

2348
04:58:47,790 --> 04:58:49,990
to go do whatever you need to to jump some lane.

2349
04:58:51,370 --> 04:58:53,770
But two of those is access to recreation,

2350
04:58:53,770 --> 04:59:01,570
which you have out there with OHB parking we've built and revenue generation, which this fee would accomplish.

2351
04:59:02,650 --> 04:59:07,810
So, whether they're both, they both have to be met or one or the other, I don't know,

2352
04:59:07,890 --> 04:59:11,930
but I know that if both are met gives you a better chance of collecting that money.

2353
04:59:17,010 --> 04:59:20,350
Commissioner Rice, did you have any questions of Mr. Maxwell?

2354
04:59:23,510 --> 04:59:24,650
No sir, I do not.

2355
04:59:24,810 --> 04:59:26,670
Okay. Any other commissioners?

2356
04:59:27,010 --> 04:59:27,530
Okay.

2357
04:59:28,410 --> 04:59:28,830
Thank you.

2358
04:59:30,530 --> 04:59:33,730
Okay, so at this time and we can go to public comment, right?

2359
04:59:35,130 --> 04:59:39,690
So we'll entertain public comment on item number 14.1.

2360
04:59:41,190 --> 04:59:42,550
Is there any public comment?

2361
05:00:03,550 --> 05:00:32,430
I think I just have one question. This agreement, which I have not been in favor of from the get-go, how is it help the residents of Johnson Lane, or East Valley, or Fremont, who now have a road that's not worth driving on? How does it benefit the residents of Johnson Lane to have a hundred to two hundred trucks a day?

2362
05:00:33,150 --> 05:00:36,550
going up and down that road, untethered,

2363
05:00:38,650 --> 05:00:40,210
no restrictions on trucks.

2364
05:00:41,450 --> 05:00:45,730
How is that going to benefit the residents of Johnson Lane?

2365
05:00:46,430 --> 05:00:49,910
It's going to benefit the owners of the quarry, because they're going to put money in their

2366
05:00:49,910 --> 05:00:50,530
pocket.

2367
05:00:51,250 --> 05:00:55,550
It's going to benefit developers, because they're going to put money in their pocket.

2368
05:00:56,670 --> 05:01:03,970
The people buying those homes, I don't really believe you understand what the cost of aggregate

2369
05:01:03,970 --> 05:01:13,650
is into a home. One to three percent is the cost of aggregate, taking asphalt or concrete out of the equation.

2370
05:01:15,150 --> 05:01:23,890
It changes the price of a home by one to three percent. And all the folks who've lived on Johnson Lane,

2371
05:01:23,890 --> 05:01:31,590
I'm new, and I'm from California. But without us from California, they wouldn't have a home to build.

2372
05:01:31,590 --> 05:01:36,390
they wouldn't need a quarry. So I'm sick and tired of hearing people from California go home.

2373
05:01:37,970 --> 05:01:45,630
I've been in the quarry business or the garbage business all my life. I either dig it out or I put it

2374
05:01:45,630 --> 05:01:46,130
in.

2375
05:01:49,540 --> 05:02:01,140
How does this agreement give anything back to the people who have to endure this every day?

2376
05:02:02,460 --> 05:02:04,900
That's the only question I got, I guess.

2377
05:02:05,200 --> 05:02:06,740
I don't understand it.

2378
05:02:07,020 --> 05:02:09,220
It's easy to say no restrictions.

2379
05:02:10,280 --> 05:02:13,040
Good Lord, that's the same as it was before.

2380
05:02:13,560 --> 05:02:14,920
What good is it?

2381
05:02:16,640 --> 05:02:18,440
No, I'm done.

2382
05:02:19,520 --> 05:02:22,360
And protect Johnson Lane is not an LLC.

2383
05:02:23,180 --> 05:02:24,840
It is a nonprofit corporation.

2384
05:02:26,160 --> 05:02:28,420
Our mission statement is on our website.

2385
05:02:28,420 --> 05:02:35,440
It is through the benefit of the neighborhood, to increase the safety and health of the neighborhood,

2386
05:02:36,040 --> 05:02:46,000
and we are not going to stop or even slow down until we get some concessions. Simple, easy things.

2387
05:02:49,960 --> 05:02:50,720
I just

2388
05:03:07,140 --> 05:03:15,240
came to Jackson. Further what Ron was saying, what benefit is to any of the people that live on

2389
05:03:15,240 --> 05:03:23,920
on some line. If you go with the OR modifications to it, place no restrictions. And I say again,

2390
05:03:24,140 --> 05:03:32,160
no restrictions on trucks on Johnson Lane. Think of do whatever they darn will please. And you can't

2391
05:03:32,160 --> 05:03:39,540
do a thing about it. You wanted to reduce the speed limit. Oh, that's fine. Until you do it, then it won't

2392
05:03:39,540 --> 05:03:47,220
fine. You want to change the number of hours. Can't do that. Can't do anything to it. That

2393
05:03:47,220 --> 05:03:54,960
ties your hands on absolutely everything. And that hurts all the residents up on the Johnson

2394
05:03:54,960 --> 05:04:02,080
Lane area. We're not asking for the mind to go away. We're just asking for it to be a better

2395
05:04:04,230 --> 05:04:08,610
neighborhood partner if you want to call it that. That actually cares about the neighborhood

2396
05:04:09,290 --> 05:04:14,390
and not running 100 or 200 or who knows how many trucks a day.

2397
05:04:14,710 --> 05:04:18,770
You just, if you do that, it's no restrictions whatsoever.

2398
05:04:19,710 --> 05:04:23,590
Think about that for a second. What does that really remain mean?

2399
05:04:24,510 --> 05:04:29,230
If I told you there are absolutely no restrictions on what you can do on something,

2400
05:04:29,770 --> 05:04:32,490
it means you're free to do whatever you're done well, please.

2401
05:04:34,490 --> 05:04:36,370
And we've seen how that's worked in the past.

2402
05:04:37,290 --> 05:04:43,760
So, they want to terminate it, let it terminate, and been doing us in a good anyway.

2403
05:04:44,840 --> 05:04:45,060
Thank you.

2404
05:05:01,680 --> 05:05:29,720
Trial's effort in gasoline, agree. Putting this or it's not good because then they can do pretty much anything there and you don't have any control. Right now, the sheriff's department does not have the personnel to stop these trucks and you can take it for not covering your load, which they are supposed to do under county's code and under state law. And they're not doing it.

2405
05:05:29,720 --> 05:05:41,780
But if you put this on, you can't have your code enforcement officers, for instance, because they're not authorized, but if it was a permit road, you could have your code enforcement officers give them tickets.

2406
05:05:42,820 --> 05:05:50,320
Okay, so yeah, I'm not just looking at the thing die for all I concern, or is not a good answer.

2407
05:05:51,480 --> 05:05:57,560
You know, it's rich that they said when they met with you, that they said that they would,

2408
05:05:57,560 --> 05:06:02,460
they would intend to and will comply with the EAV haven't been so far.

2409
05:06:02,980 --> 05:06:08,080
And there's multitude of things that we've called out, but I'll just tell you too.

2410
05:06:08,080 --> 05:06:19,940
The covered loads says right in the year many many times that I've presented you with all the data that shows in their operating plan that they would put that dirt into covered containers that covered loads

2411
05:06:19,940 --> 05:06:23,680
They would physical cover loads and before they went on the roads

2412
05:06:23,680 --> 05:06:26,820
Now doing it and they fought it to the nail

2413
05:06:27,400 --> 05:06:32,020
And the other thing is and this is something I brought up to you last week or last meeting

2414
05:06:32,020 --> 05:06:34,800
And that's the importation of soil rocks

2415
05:06:35,340 --> 05:06:41,580
things like that. We've seen california license plate trucks come into the mine dump their soil

2416
05:06:41,580 --> 05:06:46,680
and their rocks. What's in that stuff? We have no idea what's in there. That's not a lot in the

2417
05:06:46,680 --> 05:06:51,720
EA. It was never studied. It was never studied to see what would the effect be on the groundwater

2418
05:06:51,720 --> 05:06:57,540
of bringing that soil into the mine. There I got to resell it. Now they could grind and resell

2419
05:06:57,540 --> 05:07:01,920
the asphalt in the concrete. So that kind of makes sense even though it's not covered in their permit.

2420
05:07:02,920 --> 05:07:10,040
But at least that would make sense why the soil and the rocks, who knows where that's coming from and who knows what's in it.

2421
05:07:10,420 --> 05:07:22,160
So that has to be looked at and I know that's not maybe under your purview because it's not your permit but that is something that the other agency should have to deal with.

2422
05:07:22,160 --> 05:07:31,540
As far as the speeding trucks, I would, I hate to say it, but I think from what I've seen,

2423
05:07:31,940 --> 05:07:36,260
most of the, I say 95% of the trucks are doing the speed limit.

2424
05:07:36,520 --> 05:07:41,980
Except if their water truck is the one, that guy is going, all the time.

2425
05:07:42,160 --> 05:07:44,460
I mean, he's just going up and down the road.

2426
05:07:45,120 --> 05:07:46,940
And where's that, you know, they're using city water.

2427
05:07:47,140 --> 05:07:48,600
I don't remember that.

2428
05:07:48,600 --> 05:07:56,300
That's one of the things to say about about the use of the trucks route on East Valley and things,

2429
05:07:56,560 --> 05:07:59,120
but I'll wait until after at the end.

2430
05:07:59,620 --> 05:08:00,340
Thank you.

2431
05:08:04,520 --> 05:08:05,300
Thank you.

2432
05:08:14,900 --> 05:08:19,020
John Maxwell, again, Knox X-Tvini is one of the kind of address familiar concerns.

2433
05:08:21,280 --> 05:08:29,240
So to a previous point, not impacting housing prices, the aggregate benefit to the community

2434
05:08:29,240 --> 05:08:31,840
isn't solely for foundations of homes.

2435
05:08:32,160 --> 05:08:35,260
It's all the infrastructure that leads to your home.

2436
05:08:35,640 --> 05:08:38,380
That's the main cost of any subdivision,

2437
05:08:38,700 --> 05:08:41,020
not specifically worked on on a lot.

2438
05:08:43,660 --> 05:08:46,660
Johnson Lane was built and designated

2439
05:08:46,660 --> 05:08:49,020
or the use we are using it for.

2440
05:08:49,960 --> 05:08:52,900
Your homes wouldn't have access to the highway.

2441
05:08:53,520 --> 05:08:55,920
Your subdivisions wouldn't have been built

2442
05:08:55,920 --> 05:08:58,520
without Johnson Lane being what it is.

2443
05:08:59,240 --> 05:09:06,480
that is a major collector, it funnels traffic from your community to the highway. Without that designation,

2444
05:09:06,820 --> 05:09:12,280
your home wouldn't ever be built. So that's important to remember. We're not the only benefactor

2445
05:09:12,280 --> 05:09:16,980
of this public road. Your house wouldn't be there if it wasn't what the county said it is.

2446
05:09:19,980 --> 05:09:25,660
TARP loads, tarping loads, and I keep hammering this point home and I do respect your position,

2447
05:09:25,660 --> 05:09:32,540
But it's a mitigating factor to minimize dust from loads being traveled down the road.

2448
05:09:33,140 --> 05:09:37,840
So just like you wet down a construction site, it mitigates the dust.

2449
05:09:38,180 --> 05:09:40,840
It's a mitigating factor. It's not an end all be all.

2450
05:09:43,060 --> 05:09:48,320
And as far as dirt coming in and you're worried about contaminating the groundwater.

2451
05:09:49,120 --> 05:09:52,660
I don't know if you really believe that or not, but I do want to address that concern because

2452
05:09:52,660 --> 05:09:58,000
I don't want people to get emotionally attached to these scary, scary turns.

2453
05:09:58,000 --> 05:09:59,780
if soils

2454
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:11,160
Contaminated on a construction site. It has to go through testing and has to be disposed of and lock wood or it likes any facility like that.

2455
05:10:11,260 --> 05:10:15,900
It goes through testing on the site. It goes through testing before it goes into a truck.

2456
05:10:16,140 --> 05:10:21,580
And then when it gets to the disposal site, the fees are astronomical for obvious reasons.

2457
05:10:21,580 --> 05:10:26,140
But again, it's not a free-for-all.

2458
05:10:26,240 --> 05:10:32,560
You don't get just to take contaminated material wherever you want, because we have a site that

2459
05:10:32,560 --> 05:10:37,740
receives off-all, doesn't mean we aren't licensed, it'd be completely illegal.

2460
05:10:38,500 --> 05:10:43,660
And we'd be shut down and Gemini would probably be in jail and federal jail if we took contaminated

2461
05:10:43,660 --> 05:10:49,700
it's soil and just buried it. So, um, and I think that was all of the concerns that we brought

2462
05:10:49,700 --> 05:10:57,300
up. If there's more, be happy to address it. Thank you, Mr. Maxwell. Appreciate it. Is there any

2463
05:10:57,300 --> 05:11:03,800
additional public comment? Okay. Then we'll bring it back to the board. Commissioner Rice, did

2464
05:11:03,800 --> 05:11:05,900
you have any additional comments or questions?

2465
05:11:09,150 --> 05:11:14,630
No, I do not. I think that one of the things we need to

2466
05:11:14,630 --> 05:11:18,450
would listen to our public.

2467
05:11:20,730 --> 05:11:22,950
Pardon me, they just brought me a pill.

2468
05:11:26,560 --> 05:11:26,560
Okay.

2469
05:11:31,270 --> 05:11:32,150
We've done

2470
05:11:32,150 --> 05:11:49,570
everything in our power, although some people think not. We've done everything in our

2471
05:11:49,570 --> 05:12:04,430
putting number one license plate readers as well as radar to give us a photograph of what

2472
05:12:04,430 --> 05:12:12,650
truck is doing what and I don't think photo radar is legal in this state but that's something

2473
05:12:12,650 --> 05:12:20,910
that we can consider. But I think that we do need to put the radar signs up there that take

2474
05:12:20,910 --> 05:12:26,760
pictures of the cars as they're going through in this feed limit that they're traveling at.

2475
05:12:27,810 --> 05:12:32,810
I don't see a resolution to this problem and the near future.

2476
05:12:35,370 --> 05:12:41,810
I'm not sure that I don't want to go there. Anyway, that's my comments.

2477
05:12:41,810 --> 05:12:57,870
Thank you so much. Commissioner Hales. Yes, thank you. I'm not sure about the license plate readers, but I do agree about the flashing of the speed. I guess I have a question.

2478
05:12:58,830 --> 05:13:06,110
I did the board direct two weeks ago did the board direct you to respond by saying we the county does not believe it breached.

2479
05:13:07,830 --> 05:13:34,450
Yes, and we did provide a response to advice that we did not agree that we breached and that we are our initial written response that our legal counsel provided indicated that we needed to hear from them by today, whether or not they want we're willing to withdraw the agreement, but we were able to chat with them since then.

2480
05:13:34,450 --> 05:13:41,230
And basically, we're waiting the outcome of your direction today to decide where we stand

2481
05:13:41,770 --> 05:13:49,810
What the county's position final position on that agreement will be. Okay. Thanks. So here's how I see it

2482
05:13:49,810 --> 05:13:51,650
Since we don't believe we breached

2483
05:13:53,370 --> 05:13:56,890
Assuming we didn't breach, which I think is solid

2484
05:13:57,530 --> 05:14:03,590
Then there'd be no reason for us to modify the agreement to terms that are less favorable

2485
05:14:03,590 --> 05:14:10,070
to the county. So to me, the third bullet is makes no sense whatsoever.

2486
05:14:12,170 --> 05:14:13,530
I am really appreciative

2487
05:14:13,530 --> 05:14:19,130
to hear that the mine operators said they intend to operate within the representations made

2488
05:14:19,130 --> 05:14:25,290
in the E.A. And since that's the case, I don't see how they could object in any way to us

2489
05:14:25,290 --> 05:14:34,330
doing the second bullet, which is to alert the agencies that the mine operators don't seem

2490
05:14:34,330 --> 05:14:41,990
to not intend to respect the terms of our agreement and to request that they incorporate

2491
05:14:41,990 --> 05:14:49,030
the terms of the E.A. within their permits. And that seems totally fair to me on all fronts

2492
05:14:49,030 --> 05:14:52,990
because it was knocks or it's representatives

2493
05:14:52,990 --> 05:14:56,930
that made the representations in the EA in the first place.

2494
05:14:57,490 --> 05:14:59,710
So to me, number two is a no-brainer.

2495
05:14:59,710 --> 05:14:59,930
.

2496
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:16,040
Number one, I would like to see the agreement just be as is while we communicate with the agencies, because I don't see any benefit to the county in getting rid of it at this point.

2497
05:15:16,340 --> 05:15:21,960
And when I say getting rid of it, if there hasn't been a breach, nox doesn't have the right to terminate.

2498
05:15:21,960 --> 05:15:27,720
Therefore, the only way to terminate is for us to agree mutually to terminate it.

2499
05:15:27,940 --> 05:15:33,340
If we do that, I think we lose out on the only actual requirements.

2500
05:15:34,480 --> 05:15:38,740
A lot of regarding days and hours consistent with the terms in the E.A.

2501
05:15:38,960 --> 05:15:46,060
Until some other legal mechanism is in place regarding days and hours and track trips consistent with the E.A.

2502
05:15:46,060 --> 05:16:06,540
Therefore, what I would like to see as do is direct the county manager to go ahead and move forward with the letter to the agencies as similar to what was presented two weeks ago, and just leave the agreement alone.

2503
05:16:06,540 --> 05:16:13,600
We don't need to fight about it, but we expect the proceeds to continue coming in, which

2504
05:16:13,600 --> 05:16:22,000
would dot the eyes and cross the T's for any potential grant application, and I don't

2505
05:16:22,000 --> 05:16:25,220
see any harm in just letting it be there.

2506
05:16:25,840 --> 05:16:32,680
Especially until we figure out what the grant might need in terms of revenue, and until we

2507
05:16:32,680 --> 05:16:39,740
understand what the agencies might do in terms of incorporating terms from the E.A. which

2508
05:16:39,740 --> 05:16:48,940
were Knox's own representations along. That's what I would like to see. This is such

2509
05:16:48,940 --> 05:16:54,640
a scary day. I'm going to go 1,000 percent with my colleague here and what she just

2510
05:16:54,640 --> 05:16:58,160
for the second one to row right after the county managers.

2511
05:16:59,620 --> 05:17:03,800
I for one voted against the agreement that was

2512
05:17:04,400 --> 05:17:05,700
that started this thing.

2513
05:17:06,100 --> 05:17:10,080
What the primary concern, and I made this these comments before is

2514
05:17:10,080 --> 05:17:11,460
I don't believe legally.

2515
05:17:12,180 --> 05:17:15,440
And I district assistant district attorney did state that it was,

2516
05:17:15,660 --> 05:17:20,640
but I don't see how the county, one county commission group

2517
05:17:20,640 --> 05:17:28,320
group can lock in future health and safety restrictions of future county commissioners.

2518
05:17:29,160 --> 05:17:36,240
And when art we say we won't make any modifications to Johnson Lane if something happens

2519
05:17:36,960 --> 05:17:40,960
and modifications need to be made, that's wrong.

2520
05:17:41,300 --> 05:17:45,840
I mean, I don't know how we would one vote as a board to do so, but secondly, now we're

2521
05:17:45,840 --> 05:17:51,780
going to sit here and make it explicit for them in this revision and I don't know what could

2522
05:17:51,780 --> 05:17:56,120
happen, but you know what if what if you know they're dropping off from school kids and

2523
05:17:56,120 --> 05:18:01,440
something happens and we say okay we need to reduce the speed or we need to do something and

2524
05:18:01,440 --> 05:18:04,800
we're going to be locked in no and then I've been able to change it which I think our first agreement

2525
05:18:04,800 --> 05:18:10,060
says that too if I'm not mistaken but it certainly does here so I'm just going to close with this

2526
05:18:10,060 --> 05:18:16,480
don't want to spend a lot of more time. We made an ordinance. It wasn't even my idea. This was

2527
05:18:16,480 --> 05:18:24,260
Commissioner Hell's idea, and she was the one who negotiated the first contract was to make the

2528
05:18:25,060 --> 05:18:32,720
the ordinance for East Valley Road for the safety welfare of our community. And had nothing to do

2529
05:18:32,720 --> 05:18:37,700
with targeting just one company. It does affect my Oxford. It affects a lot of other companies. In fact,

2530
05:18:37,700 --> 05:18:42,360
our county managers told me over and over again that there's at least one of the companies being

2531
05:18:42,360 --> 05:18:47,860
a factor potty more. We do it because we're trying to uphold our responsibilities as a county

2532
05:18:47,860 --> 05:18:54,320
commission and what we do that now nox says the agreement is violated and we want a better

2533
05:18:54,320 --> 05:19:00,840
agreement with you and that's just I mean anybody who votes for that's crazy. So I agree with what

2534
05:19:00,840 --> 05:19:01,880
commission of health set.

2535
05:19:09,530 --> 05:19:13,990
Okay. So I just want to make sure I'm clear in my head

2536
05:19:13,990 --> 05:19:20,310
of what you're suggesting is, it's so I've tried to paraphrase it here and correct me

2537
05:19:20,310 --> 05:19:26,970
if I'm, I get it wrong. Okay. But as I understand it, what you're suggesting is that

2538
05:19:26,970 --> 05:19:33,570
we notify the permitted agencies of the notice of the termination from noxx

2539
05:19:36,810 --> 05:19:49,850
while also indicating to them that we disagree that we've defaulted and also ask the agencies to enforce the terms illustrated in the EA.

2540
05:19:50,810 --> 05:19:52,810
Is that okay, so I just want to make sure.

2541
05:19:52,810 --> 05:19:57,930
Yeah, and we ask them that because it appears that knocks

2542
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:03,200
It leaves the terms in our agreement are no longer applicable.

2543
05:20:05,930 --> 05:20:10,070
And the only thing we really forfeit is the renomeration from proceeds.

2544
05:20:10,410 --> 05:20:11,670
I'm thinking we forfeit that.

2545
05:20:11,730 --> 05:20:12,510
Oh, okay.

2546
05:20:14,660 --> 05:20:15,620
I'm asking for clarification.

2547
05:20:17,200 --> 05:20:20,180
I think a judge would have something to say about that.

2548
05:20:24,340 --> 05:20:32,080
This does not preclude us in the future from taking a different action on the agreement, depending on what plays out.

2549
05:20:37,200 --> 05:20:41,500
So I hear what everybody's saying, and I don't disagree.

2550
05:20:42,360 --> 05:20:47,920
I'd like to throw out one more piece that we haven't talked about, is that if we do,

2551
05:20:48,160 --> 05:20:51,020
say, nope, we don't believe this is a problem.

2552
05:20:53,480 --> 05:20:59,740
And they believe that we have breached there isn't a resolution, so that now pushes to a judge.

2553
05:20:59,740 --> 05:21:07,860
So now we're defending this in court and quite honestly, we, now it's my opinion,

2554
05:21:08,000 --> 05:21:13,620
just trying to throw that out there that we have spent a lot of time, staff, money,

2555
05:21:15,820 --> 05:21:21,380
monitoring, checking, testing, whatever we've been doing, you know, with the license plate readers

2556
05:21:21,380 --> 05:21:29,100
and all this things trying to create a bunch of data. And I'm not sure the return on that investment,

2557
05:21:30,440 --> 05:21:36,180
is wise, right, or that it's worth the investment that we put into it.

2558
05:21:36,560 --> 05:21:40,620
So that's kind of like the one thing that I keep trying to, you know,

2559
05:21:40,700 --> 05:21:45,760
I'm always trying to see both sides of any or whatever, you know, elements that are to it.

2560
05:21:46,000 --> 05:21:49,100
And so that is when I think are we being a good shepherd of the public's money,

2561
05:21:49,220 --> 05:21:52,340
and that's something that Mr. Gardening references a lot of times,

2562
05:21:52,640 --> 05:21:55,740
with the amount of investment we're putting into this,

2563
05:21:55,740 --> 05:22:01,680
this when a lot of the things we're trying to control are really controlled in their agreement

2564
05:22:01,680 --> 05:22:10,160
or their permit to begin with. Can I? Yes, absolutely. My idea is we don't put anymore money in it.

2565
05:22:10,460 --> 05:22:16,520
We just let it be as it is. We just let it be as it is. If there's a lawsuit, we figure out what to do

2566
05:22:16,520 --> 05:22:18,100
There's the last thing.

2567
05:22:19,100 --> 05:22:20,880
So when you commissioner,

2568
05:22:22,280 --> 05:22:25,480
so when you voted for the ordinance

2569
05:22:26,120 --> 05:22:28,720
to restrict trucks on East Valley,

2570
05:22:29,260 --> 05:22:32,840
did you do that with the intent or belief?

2571
05:22:33,500 --> 05:22:35,500
We were gonna violate Nox's agreement?

2572
05:22:36,520 --> 05:22:38,700
Well, that's the hard given in front of the judge.

2573
05:22:39,380 --> 05:22:40,200
None of us did.

2574
05:22:41,620 --> 05:22:43,580
So you're saying don't defend a lawsuit

2575
05:22:43,580 --> 05:22:45,980
that none of us felt we were committing

2576
05:22:46,680 --> 05:22:48,860
because we don't want to spend more money on it.

2577
05:22:51,260 --> 05:22:54,260
Yes, no, I'm not saying that we shouldn't.

2578
05:22:54,360 --> 05:22:57,180
I'm just saying we have the opportunity to possibly resolve this.

2579
05:22:58,340 --> 05:23:01,220
And so I just want to make sure we're recognizing that

2580
05:23:01,220 --> 05:23:04,220
that that is a potential of what we're deciding on.

2581
05:23:04,380 --> 05:23:07,300
You know, is that we are going to continue to push money

2582
05:23:07,300 --> 05:23:09,060
on this situation where we're at.

2583
05:23:09,180 --> 05:23:10,180
I just want to make sure we're...

2584
05:23:10,180 --> 05:23:11,120
No, we're not.

2585
05:23:11,220 --> 05:23:11,340
We're not.

2586
05:23:11,760 --> 05:23:12,380
We're not.

2587
05:23:12,380 --> 05:23:15,420
how that in any way saying we're gonna put more money into it.

2588
05:23:15,560 --> 05:23:19,260
But if we, we don't, we don't actually assume that if we

2589
05:23:19,260 --> 05:23:21,760
no, it's gone back saying we don't believe we're in breach,

2590
05:23:21,820 --> 05:23:23,900
they say we believe you're in breach.

2591
05:23:24,500 --> 05:23:27,540
They're just gonna say okay, you're not in breach or they're gonna push it.

2592
05:23:27,540 --> 05:23:32,380
But I don't know, but we wait to see what happens if they bring the lawsuit

2593
05:23:32,380 --> 05:23:36,720
then the county needs to come to the staff needs to come to us and say,

2594
05:23:36,920 --> 05:23:38,100
what do you want to do with this lawsuit?

2595
05:23:38,180 --> 05:23:41,340
And at any point in time, we can walk away with from the agreement.

2596
05:23:41,340 --> 05:23:45,060
boom, done. We don't have to spend money.

2597
05:23:47,700 --> 05:23:55,320
So, my observation would be that the only reason that I could see us pursuing action and

2598
05:23:55,320 --> 05:24:04,200
court would be to retrieve the proceeds that are due for us. And it seems to me that

2599
05:24:04,200 --> 05:24:14,200
amount of proceeds that we've received. So far, do not equate to that action. Okay? So the only

2600
05:24:14,200 --> 05:24:20,660
action that I can see is action by noxx, your vating towards the county, not the county, towards

2601
05:24:20,660 --> 05:24:30,980
noxx. Okay? And we can't control that. Okay? So I concur with what you're saying here, and I, you know,

2602
05:24:30,980 --> 05:24:39,280
I would just hope that the agencies enforce the terms of the A, and so we lose the proceeds.

2603
05:24:42,180 --> 05:24:48,180
But we've spent more than those proceeds on fighting this issue ourselves from a staff standpoint.

2604
05:24:49,460 --> 05:24:53,960
So I think we're all, I think we're all basically pretty much saying the same thing.

2605
05:24:57,390 --> 05:24:59,730
And to answer your question, commissioner.

2606
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:08,140
Continuing as whether or not we felt like we were targeting, so to speak, knocks. If you recall, when

2607
05:25:08,140 --> 05:25:15,940
we addressed this issue, previously, in response to the letter, we passed the ordinance, I suppose.

2608
05:25:16,880 --> 05:25:24,080
I made it very clear on the record that this ordinance of no trucks on East Valley would not

2609
05:25:24,080 --> 05:25:31,160
include or prevent our residents out there from receiving goods or services from any and all

2610
05:25:31,160 --> 05:25:36,300
trucking companies, whether it be knocks or anybody else. And that's the way I'm interpreting.

2611
05:25:36,980 --> 05:25:47,340
So anyways, I feel the same way in regards to the use of a book I wrote also because we have

2612
05:25:47,340 --> 05:25:51,640
a lot of construction that's taking place out there right now. And we're going to potentially

2613
05:25:51,640 --> 05:25:57,980
over the next 30 years with the development of 2,500 homes potentially have a lot more

2614
05:25:57,980 --> 05:26:03,540
construction out there. And so even though we've designated it as not a truck route,

2615
05:26:03,700 --> 05:26:11,720
I still believe that people making local deliveries out there to accomplish those needs are

2616
05:26:11,720 --> 05:26:15,380
are provided or are not prevented from doing so.

2617
05:26:16,100 --> 05:26:16,540
So anyways,

2618
05:26:20,790 --> 05:26:21,310
are you ready?

2619
05:26:21,510 --> 05:26:22,370
Yeah, I'm a motion.

2620
05:26:22,770 --> 05:26:23,170
OK.

2621
05:26:24,210 --> 05:26:26,250
I moved that we direct the county manager

2622
05:26:26,250 --> 05:26:28,650
to provide a response to Knox consistent

2623
05:26:28,650 --> 05:26:30,550
with the discussion at the meeting,

2624
05:26:30,990 --> 05:26:34,910
including appreciation for their entering into conversation.

2625
05:26:36,990 --> 05:26:37,670
And

2626
05:26:39,820 --> 05:26:43,500
inviting them to further communicate regarding

2627
05:26:43,500 --> 05:26:49,660
how to handle complaints moving forward. I move that we also direct the county manager to

2628
05:26:49,660 --> 05:27:02,400
provide notice to the agencies as outlined in the letter presented in the board packet

2629
05:27:02,400 --> 05:27:07,100
to in the last meeting with changes as she sees appropriate.

2630
05:27:10,150 --> 05:27:10,350
Second.

2631
05:27:14,080 --> 05:27:15,360
So we have a motion by a

2632
05:27:15,360 --> 05:27:19,220
of health, signify, commissioner, circadian, any further discussion on that motion?

2633
05:27:21,370 --> 05:27:24,750
City, no further discussion. All those in favor, signify by say and aye.

2634
05:27:25,690 --> 05:27:28,550
Aye. Okay, motion passes five to zero.

2635
05:27:30,680 --> 05:27:31,260
Thank you very much.

2636
05:27:33,040 --> 05:27:33,460
Where we stand?

2637
05:27:42,840 --> 05:27:48,000
Okay. Well, it's, uh, 330 and we have, uh, uh, uh,

2638
05:27:48,200 --> 05:27:51,900
presentation only. Announcements reports updates from county commission members, including

2639
05:27:51,900 --> 05:27:57,280
part updates on the various boards and our commissions that they may be a member of or

2640
05:27:57,280 --> 05:28:02,840
a liaison to or any other meeting functions they have attended in any request by a commissioner

2641
05:28:02,840 --> 05:28:10,040
for discussion of a future agenda item. Commissioner Rice, anything to report other than

2642
05:28:10,480 --> 05:28:20,520
how's the hotspittle food? I've had better. I don't laugh. It's not funny. You've been through

2643
05:28:20,520 --> 05:28:30,040
menu like a dozen times now, right? Oh my God. Anyway, I would I would like to thank my fellow

2644
05:28:30,040 --> 05:28:36,280
commissioners for picking up the slack for the meetings that I have not been able to attend.

2645
05:28:37,160 --> 05:28:44,580
I've only missed a couple of commission meetings and I was in surgery and it's hard to get on zoom

2646
05:28:44,580 --> 05:28:56,340
when you're under the knife, so at any rate, I have doing everything I can in my power to fulfill

2647
05:28:56,340 --> 05:29:02,980
my duty as a county commissioner, but I want you to know how much I appreciate that you

2648
05:29:02,980 --> 05:29:10,700
have been picking up some of my meetings for me that I just can't do from in here.

2649
05:29:10,700 --> 05:29:14,180
And I want you to know that it's much appreciated.

2650
05:29:15,100 --> 05:29:17,960
I thank you in my wife's thank you.

2651
05:29:18,480 --> 05:29:21,140
Well, thank you. And good to hear you.

2652
05:29:22,200 --> 05:29:26,640
I lean our love also and appreciation for watching out for your help.

2653
05:29:27,160 --> 05:29:28,280
That's paramount.

2654
05:29:29,820 --> 05:29:32,200
Commissioner Hales, anything you wanted to?

2655
05:29:32,540 --> 05:29:37,820
I've just mentioned briefly that I've attended the meetings that I'm assigned to.

2656
05:29:37,820 --> 05:29:46,430
Carson Valley Arts Council has a new concert series announced and scheduled and it looks very

2657
05:29:47,740 --> 05:29:59,980
fun. So I encourage anyone to consider purchasing a membership and season tickets SS or TTD has a

2658
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:11,180
A strategic plan, retreat, long meeting, a week from, well, next Wednesday, and I will attend that.

2659
05:30:11,180 --> 05:30:17,020
And I also note that the car smelly arts council is working on a mural for the Copeland building.

2660
05:30:17,780 --> 05:30:28,580
We're on a roll here, and they've announced that they continue to work on preliminary design for the Performing Arts Center.

2661
05:30:28,580 --> 05:30:32,760
using donated money to make those designs.

2662
05:30:33,620 --> 05:30:35,140
So that's

2663
05:30:37,600 --> 05:30:39,660
the, my summarized report.

2664
05:30:41,630 --> 05:30:42,670
Thank you.

2665
05:30:43,050 --> 05:30:44,790
Not paying attention on my report.

2666
05:30:45,970 --> 05:30:47,190
I heard you.

2667
05:30:47,510 --> 05:30:48,830
So thank you.

2668
05:30:49,070 --> 05:30:49,330
Okay.

2669
05:30:49,790 --> 05:30:50,750
Commissioner to work.

2670
05:30:51,850 --> 05:30:54,010
I just have one of, I feel,

2671
05:30:54,150 --> 05:30:55,870
importance to the public might want to know about

2672
05:30:55,870 --> 05:30:59,230
is the TRPA meeting last week.

2673
05:30:59,230 --> 05:31:08,090
There was two items that were, I don't know about disturbing but enlightening, one of which was the report on the clarity of the lake.

2674
05:31:09,210 --> 05:31:14,350
All of the work that's been done over the last 20 years to reduce the amount of particles that are going in,

2675
05:31:14,610 --> 05:31:23,070
have had a strong result in the winter, and they've kept the decline of the death, so when I say this,

2676
05:31:23,070 --> 05:31:28,970
the death is getting higher in the winter, but in the summer it's continuing to decline and they're

2677
05:31:28,970 --> 05:31:33,970
finding that there's other reasons for that outside of the particles. It's also has to do with

2678
05:31:33,970 --> 05:31:39,990
fight-o-planks and other things, basically, but the lake is reacting as well. And so there's

2679
05:31:39,990 --> 05:31:44,410
more work, more studies, and you can be able to do that to verify how we're going to preserve

2680
05:31:44,410 --> 05:31:49,870
the clarity of the lake. So that was very enlightening to hear about some of that's a big deal for

2681
05:31:49,870 --> 05:31:55,870
everybody and then the other thing was that the forest service is beginning to re-plant the

2682
05:31:55,870 --> 05:32:04,030
Caldor fire scar and the part of their toolbox was to be using herbicides to keep some of the

2683
05:32:04,030 --> 05:32:08,330
undergrowth, the manzanita and the white thorns from overtaking the new plantings and keep in the

2684
05:32:08,330 --> 05:32:14,770
trees from grow and that sparked a very lively debate about the use of herbicides and glycephate

2685
05:32:14,770 --> 05:32:21,390
in the basin and in all the regions. So that was something that we need to be aware of and

2686
05:32:22,000 --> 05:32:29,970
that was it. Thank you. So in regards to my activities beyond the board,

2687
05:32:31,340 --> 05:32:38,150
as President of NACO, the Nevada Association of Counties, we did have our meeting last Friday in

2688
05:32:38,150 --> 05:32:44,930
as normal. And I just wanted to announce also that we have our annual conference coming up

2689
05:32:44,930 --> 05:32:50,330
September 22nd through the 24th at the Ohio Blue Events Center. In addition to that, we

2690
05:32:50,330 --> 05:32:57,870
approved 5 BDRs, NACO is allowed by BDRs. For those of you who do not understand what a BDR is,

2691
05:32:57,890 --> 05:33:06,290
it's a bill draft request. So those bill draft requests go to the state legislative council bureau,

2692
05:33:06,290 --> 05:33:14,910
Okay, LCB and for drafting of those bills to come forward to the state legislature when it starts in February.

2693
05:33:16,590 --> 05:33:25,690
Also, we have a new governmental affairs rule representative for endot.

2694
05:33:25,690 --> 05:33:43,810
Her name is Patty Anrenucci, and I was, we took a two hour tour, a two hour, not a three hour, two hour tour of Douglas County on Tuesday afternoon.

2695
05:33:44,590 --> 05:33:54,730
We met at the county office and traveled all the way down to TRE, where we had a fatal hit on collision on July the 3rd.

2696
05:33:54,730 --> 05:33:58,890
and we traveled all the way up to North County and

2697
05:33:59,810 --> 05:34:02,490
Jax Valley Road and then back down on to

2698
05:34:03,850 --> 05:34:09,540
General Elaine and me taking notes and then

2699
05:34:10,490 --> 05:34:17,890
so she now has a punch list of things that I would like to see happen in Douglas County from an end-dots standpoint.

2700
05:34:19,170 --> 05:34:23,890
I know some of those are highlights for my fellow commissioners as well

2701
05:34:23,890 --> 05:34:31,910
they may have others that they want me to note. So if you do, I should have probably reached out to you in advance of that tour.

2702
05:34:32,550 --> 05:34:37,810
But anyways, if you have items that you feel need to go on the list, please let me know.

2703
05:34:38,650 --> 05:34:49,030
And then also I just want to re emphasize that we have the Douglas County rodeo happening not this weekend, but next weekend on the 11th and 12th.

2704
05:34:49,870 --> 05:34:59,970
I understand that there are almost out of tickets, I believe they have less than 80 tickets that are still remaining to that event, so it should be a very well.

2705
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:08,080
All attended event. And look forward to that activity, taking place again. So that's the extent of my report.

2706
05:35:10,360 --> 05:35:13,960
So with that, we will go into closing

2707
05:35:13,960 --> 05:35:18,780
public comment. So at this time public comment, we've taken on those items that are within jurisdiction

2708
05:35:18,780 --> 05:35:25,040
and control board of commissioners, or those agenda items where public comment has not already been taken.

2709
05:35:25,040 --> 05:35:26,020
It's been happening.

2710
05:35:29,160 --> 05:35:29,420
Whew.

2711
05:35:29,900 --> 05:35:31,400
Boy, I'm relieved now.

2712
05:35:32,420 --> 05:35:35,240
We should all feel a sigh of relief.

2713
05:35:35,840 --> 05:35:37,480
Can I get your name, please?

2714
05:35:37,920 --> 05:35:38,080
No.

2715
05:35:38,340 --> 05:35:46,200
Oh, Charles Cameron, that Mr. Maxwell is sure of us that all of those loads that are coming in are being tested.

2716
05:35:47,220 --> 05:35:54,840
And perhaps you would like to just not think it's even feel better would be to share those manifests for each one of those loads with accounting.

2717
05:35:54,840 --> 05:35:57,300
all the testing has been done and everything else.

2718
05:35:58,560 --> 05:36:02,400
It doesn't still address the matter of the fact

2719
05:36:02,400 --> 05:36:05,940
that it was not even studied in the environmental assessment.

2720
05:36:06,340 --> 05:36:09,260
It wasn't part of the operations plan.

2721
05:36:10,240 --> 05:36:14,340
Their operations plan states, noxxating is proposing

2722
05:36:14,340 --> 05:36:16,840
to mind the property to produce structural fill.

2723
05:36:17,080 --> 05:36:19,120
You can produce granite construction, aggregate,

2724
05:36:19,440 --> 05:36:22,280
and any other construction materials that the site

2725
05:36:22,280 --> 05:36:25,060
mind may reasonably produce.

2726
05:36:25,280 --> 05:36:29,480
Doesn't say anything about crushing aggregate or accepting soil

2727
05:36:29,480 --> 05:36:30,560
and anything like that.

2728
05:36:30,700 --> 05:36:31,160
It's not studied.

2729
05:36:31,340 --> 05:36:31,860
It wasn't there.

2730
05:36:32,320 --> 05:36:37,080
If it was, they probably would have included a section like they have on everything else,

2731
05:36:37,860 --> 05:36:43,660
even studying the effects of the dust on the employees.

2732
05:36:44,160 --> 05:36:46,060
They have to report to the state for that.

2733
05:36:46,160 --> 05:36:51,260
They would have included reporting all those manifest or keeping them in place

2734
05:36:51,260 --> 05:36:58,300
and having an agency come and test them or come and see the records, but it wasn't, it wasn't in EA.

2735
05:36:59,660 --> 05:37:02,660
So that's all I have to say about that one.

2736
05:37:04,820 --> 05:37:10,060
You've got to do something about the trucks that are using East Valley still.

2737
05:37:10,620 --> 05:37:17,340
I mean, it almost seems like maybe they were single that, because there's a lot of other trucks using that road right now.

2738
05:37:17,340 --> 05:37:23,380
All the Douglas County disposal trucks, if they're if they're doing any runs up north of

2739
05:37:23,380 --> 05:37:28,620
Johnson Lane, they got to go down to 395 and then go over the dump, because even from

2740
05:37:28,620 --> 05:37:33,360
Buckeye over to, you know, south, that part is not a truck route.

2741
05:37:33,580 --> 05:37:38,540
They can't be using that as a normal truck route, including the one that the ordinance just

2742
05:37:38,540 --> 05:37:38,960
addressed.

2743
05:37:39,860 --> 05:37:43,820
So somebody's got to do something about Douglas County, but our others out there has got to

2744
05:37:43,820 --> 05:37:48,320
some more enforcement out there because there's still a lot of truck to use in that road.

2745
05:37:49,440 --> 05:37:54,840
And the signs, we're going on three months. Where are the signs that there's a sign there?

2746
05:37:55,000 --> 05:37:59,080
After you turn on the free month, there's a sign with a circle around a truck.

2747
05:38:00,260 --> 05:38:06,220
That's it. By that time it's too late. Put one before you get the free spot that says trucks no

2748
05:38:06,220 --> 05:38:11,380
right turn. Things like that, there are other other signs that need to be put up out there.

2749
05:38:11,380 --> 05:38:16,680
I understand they're on order or something like that, but it's it's been a while.

2750
05:38:18,860 --> 05:38:20,140
Thank you.

2751
05:38:27,840 --> 05:38:28,200
Jim Jackson.

2752
05:38:29,200 --> 05:38:29,840
Thank you.

2753
05:38:31,540 --> 05:38:32,600
You should give him a three percent.

2754
05:38:36,100 --> 05:38:38,260
I think we decided that a little while ago.

2755
05:38:39,580 --> 05:38:39,980
Yeah.

2756
05:38:40,660 --> 05:38:44,460
Now, if making a mistake was going to cut one percent, we need to cut your pay.

2757
05:38:45,440 --> 05:38:46,720
So, anyway.

2758
05:38:49,200 --> 05:38:54,860
It was brought up on no effect of property values and everything up in Johnson Lane down.

2759
05:38:54,860 --> 05:39:00,760
There's an effect. People don't want to buy a house that has trucks going by, and what kind of truck it is.

2760
05:39:01,480 --> 05:39:08,260
There are, there is reduction in either property value or the ability to sell a property.

2761
05:39:08,600 --> 05:39:11,660
You can keep a price on it all you want, but you can't sell it.

2762
05:39:12,640 --> 05:39:13,560
That worth it.

2763
05:39:13,860 --> 05:39:15,940
So those are all things to take into consideration.

2764
05:39:15,940 --> 05:39:24,520
But the one thing I heard from you is that your responsibility is to the citizens of the county,

2765
05:39:25,920 --> 05:39:29,240
the health and welfare of everybody.

2766
05:39:30,100 --> 05:39:38,040
And that includes all the residents of Johnson Lane, of Fremont, of all the developments that are going along

2767
05:39:38,040 --> 05:39:41,600
on Fremont and East Valley, all the houses that are being built up there now.

2768
05:39:41,600 --> 05:39:46,420
It's amazing how many there are that are going in and stuff.

2769
05:39:47,900 --> 05:39:54,260
To Chuck's note, make sure that the laws of being enforced across the board up there for all trucks.

2770
05:39:56,020 --> 05:39:59,180
The ordinance wasn't put in to single out any one company.

2771
05:39:59,780 --> 05:39:59,960
It was...

2772
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:12,120
Because it was a safety issue up there. More houses are being built on there. There was speed limit was reduced because it's safer up there when cars are coming out of these properties now and everything.

2773
05:40:12,960 --> 05:40:20,280
So yeah, there are trucks going up there. There are trucks making deliveries to the houses up there. Those are okay. We have no problem with that.

2774
05:40:20,280 --> 05:40:31,940
But the ones that are using it as a through route, Douglas disposal, when they're not picking up trash in that area and they're taking that, they shouldn't be doing that.

2775
05:40:32,260 --> 05:40:38,060
Now they're accounting contractor, you can tell them, hey, you got going on 395 and up to the dump over there.

2776
05:40:38,820 --> 05:40:41,020
That's the fair way of doing it.

2777
05:40:41,020 --> 05:40:51,020
I think if you do that, you'll have less pressure than the people up living up there, because they'll see that you're actually doing what you said you were going to do.

2778
05:40:53,220 --> 05:40:54,100
Thank you.

2779
05:40:54,100 --> 05:40:54,820
Thank you.

2780
05:41:04,420 --> 05:41:06,120
John Maxwell, Knox excavating.

2781
05:41:07,340 --> 05:41:16,080
I don't expect a response to this, but this is a question, and it's been in our letters, both the notice of default and the termination.

2782
05:41:16,080 --> 05:41:23,220
I haven't been responded to and it's been stated up here that you don't feel that you're in violation of the agreement.

2783
05:41:24,260 --> 05:41:26,340
And my question that still hasn't been answered,

2784
05:41:26,580 --> 05:41:29,280
Jamass, the last time when I'm asking it again is,

2785
05:41:29,620 --> 05:41:38,320
if that's the honest truth, then why were we requested to amend the agreement to allow for that ordinance to restrict truck traffic on East Valley?

2786
05:41:39,840 --> 05:41:43,920
If it weren't, if it wasn't in violation and you didn't know as a violation of our agreement.

2787
05:41:45,560 --> 05:41:57,060
So, those two things, even out, what I'm hearing you say up there versus what you asked us to do prior to an election to help get votes.

2788
05:41:58,480 --> 05:42:03,720
That was the crux of that meeting, and that was the reason for the request.

2789
05:42:04,640 --> 05:42:13,820
And we weren't willing to amend the agreement at that time because we were getting letters accusing us of violating our permits.

2790
05:42:13,820 --> 05:42:21,820
from county staff directed at our reviewing agencies that we weren't being copied with, but the

2791
05:42:21,820 --> 05:42:29,140
protect Johnson Lane was. There's more than just an ordinance. There's a series of things that

2792
05:42:29,140 --> 05:42:37,240
happened here, dealing in bad faith. And then again, when you say we need to amend this agreement

2793
05:42:37,240 --> 05:42:41,200
to allow for this ordinance and then we don't do it and you pass the ordinance and then you

2794
05:42:41,200 --> 05:42:43,540
turn around and say it's not in violation of the ordinance,

2795
05:42:43,740 --> 05:42:45,640
then why would you request it in the first place?

2796
05:42:46,560 --> 05:42:48,400
So that those two things aren't going to be wrong.

2797
05:42:48,640 --> 05:42:49,980
So that's my public comment.

2798
05:42:50,360 --> 05:42:51,040
Thank you.

2799
05:42:53,300 --> 05:42:54,240
Thank you, Mr. Maxwell.

2800
05:42:55,940 --> 05:42:56,620
Thank you.

2801
05:43:07,460 --> 05:43:08,000
Oh, my God.

2802
05:43:11,460 --> 05:43:12,720
No, I'm not going to do it.

2803
05:43:12,860 --> 05:43:14,380
I'm going to pick on the stop side.

2804
05:43:14,960 --> 05:43:16,440
I'm going to leave the rest of it alone.

2805
05:43:21,280 --> 05:43:27,020
Because they spend a lot of money fixing the BLM road.

2806
05:43:28,460 --> 05:43:34,760
The trucks, the trucks do not, some trucks come out of their fast for the majority.

2807
05:43:35,420 --> 05:43:39,240
That first block until they hit Fremont, they're good little boys.

2808
05:43:40,700 --> 05:43:42,380
You've all seen it.

2809
05:43:44,940 --> 05:43:55,260
It's the RVs, it's the UTVs, the kids going out there to party at night, coming out of there

2810
05:43:55,260 --> 05:43:57,440
at 40, 45 miles an hour.

2811
05:43:59,970 --> 05:44:05,850
You got to do something to stop that somebody's going to get hurt people are already flipping their

2812
05:44:05,850 --> 05:44:12,170
UTVs on that nice new road because they got dirt tires and they come out of the dirt and they hit that

2813
05:44:12,770 --> 05:44:18,530
chip seal and flip them over we've had three or four helicopters landing out there already

2814
05:44:19,730 --> 05:44:23,030
So you got to do something to slow them down on that first block

2815
05:44:25,080 --> 05:44:25,780
stop sign

2816
05:44:27,080 --> 05:44:31,350
I'm not going to let it go. Thank you.

2817
05:44:34,200 --> 05:44:35,380
Thank you. It was the kind of way

2818
05:44:36,120 --> 05:44:37,880
Is there any additional public comment?

2819
05:44:39,820 --> 05:44:42,720
You can address it when, say, close public comment.

2820
05:44:45,140 --> 05:44:48,260
Since you see a no other public comment, then I'll close public comment.

2821
05:44:48,340 --> 05:44:49,320
Bring it back to the board.

2822
05:44:49,760 --> 05:44:50,100
You, yet.

2823
05:44:51,980 --> 05:44:57,180
I'll address your question, but not right here.

2824
05:45:02,290 --> 05:45:13,170
Okay, with that, according to my agenda, unless somebody put something on here that I didn't see, this meeting is hereby adjourned. Thank you.