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Councillor

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Leaks, is calling in.

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Can you hear this, Councillor Maynard?

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We are good to go. I will call this meeting to order at 4 p.m. Madam Clerk, would you please do a role call.

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Thank you. Mayor, can you text in, here council member, and then there, there.

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Councillor Mayor, and here. Thank you. Thank you. If you've all rise for the pledge,

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may I call you?

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to the life of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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the one nation under God invisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. At this time, if you would please silence all devices and take

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phone calls out into the hallway, we'd really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Disclosures by city council members. Council members, please see any potential conflicts

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of interest regarding items on the agenda at this time. Have any?

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Are we approving

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the final?

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No.

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Okay.

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That's a discussion, right?

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Okay.

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Anybody else?

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Okay.

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Approval of general agenda.

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I'll entertain a motion.

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Madam, may I move to approve the general agenda as presented?

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Thank you.

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Second.

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Thank you.

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Any discussion?

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On favor, say if I was saying aye.

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Councilman Weeks.

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Thank you. Motion carries 5 to 0.

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On to our public comments before I read this,

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I'm just going to take just a minute because I know we have a full room this evening.

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Come on in, there's lots of room. Well, not lots, but there's some room.

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So we do have a large audience tonight and it's really nice to see a lot of people here for these meetings.

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In the last week or two, we've had quite a bit going on.

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One that was considered a water crisis, and I think it's unfortunate that that's the word that we got brought out with our water issue.

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We don't see it as a crisis. It has our number one priority. We are working on it.

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I hope that you all understand that. There's been many, many things that have happened in the past that we're trying to fix.

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and we really do appreciate everybody for consuming less water. It has helped and I hope

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that we can continue to do it. The other thing that's happened is we had a resolution that

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was read two weeks ago that had to do with council rules. That's a resolution that was passed

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by council prior to all of us. All I did was read it. We went over it just to see if we needed

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make any changes. One of the words that came out of that was a gag order that is nowhere in this

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resolution. There is a chain of command. And the chain of command is just how communication

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should work in a high functioning organization. We'll go over it again this evening, but I do

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hope that everyone understands that some of the wording that came out is this is not quite correct.

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So, on that note, public comments.

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Comments regarding any agenda item other than the public hearing should be made at this time.

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As a general practice, comments must be five minutes or less,

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and the council does not discuss debate or take action on issues raised or comments made under public comment.

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Council may refer items to staff for follow-up in order to be heard,

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please speak clearly and loudly.

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Please state your name and address for the record.

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One other thing, I see we do have a large group here, if some of you are here for the

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same statement that you'd like to make in for sake of time unless you all have something

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entirely different to say we could be here for a long time if you have a spokesperson that

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you'd like to stand up and have speak that's perfectly fine or if you each have something

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different to say that's fine as well.

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So if we have anyone for public comment, yes sir, would you like to come forward and tell

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So you are, and if you wouldn't mind signing in, we would appreciate it.

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I did.

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Oh, well, you're ahead of you.

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Yeah, but I'm not as a same person,

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sign-in, I consider it signed in for you right there.

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OK, so my name is Aaron Moore.

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I live at the 627 South Country here,

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it was, and I want to speak on the water.

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I don't want just to have anything.

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Have you guys feel like this has anything to do with how

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I feel about you guys, but it needs to be said.

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So,

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as of about 10 months ago, I decided to drop out of political scene and put my

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else effort elsewhere.

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When I spoke out of it matter anyways, those I talked to act like they listened, but

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I obviously didn't hear what I had to say.

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But this issue is developed into disaster mode, due to past councils over the years failures

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and priorities set by this board so I couldn't stay silent.

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It appears as though your priors need to reset possibly, and safety infrastructure have to be the top two on your list of priorities and water supplies part of infrastructure.

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I don't know what is going on in the background or how hard you all are working on this issue, but as a customer of a product you all are producing, all I care about is the water.

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Not excuses about passive boards, which is some of some of you were a part of, and now all of a sudden water is top priority.

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All that said, this person heard, all that said, I believe we need to put a building more toward him in place until we get this issue completely rectified.

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I know it is a drastic move that has plenty of very negative consequences, but are we not

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in a position that demands something drastic be done?

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Why are we building more homes and commercial businesses if we don't have enough water to

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service what we already have?

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They may even mention how we were worried about having enough water for firefighting purposes.

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That is a safety issue.

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This more terrain would include the city and the school systems all areas in and outside

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of the town to use water.

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Commercial trucking companies that are taking water from our pre-date water has to stop.

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They can suck it out of the river.

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I have a list of questions that I would like really like you guys to answer publicly, not

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tonight at some time.

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What are your plans to replace the treatment plan?

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Why are we not spending some of that extra rainy day money for this water issue?

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Why does the planning takes so long to buy or lease land to drill, move water to town?

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Is it us?

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The feds, the state, or the Corven Engine engineers that is the problem in why?

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When allocating money for the next spending period, are you going to stop all unneeded

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projects to pay for what is needed to improve our aging infrastructure?

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find sources of water and add more storage.

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I would like to explain to everybody what

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the more retirement is. A building more terrain or development suspension is a

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temporary halt or restriction imposed on building activities. This measure aims to

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control and manage urban growth, address environmental concerns, facilitate

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comprehensive planning processes or in our case mitigate potential adverse effect

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on existing infrastructure.

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The purpose and objectives, the primary purpose of implementing a building more

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time is to ensure sustainability and well-balanced balance development within a specific

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jurisdiction.

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By temporarily pausing construction activity, urban planners, and policy makers gain the opportunity

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to assess the current state of development evaluate the availability of adequate infrastructure

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and contemplate the long-term impact of proposed projects.

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They build a more terrain, conservatism, mechanism to protect, valuable natural resources

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in this case, or water.

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That's all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Madam Mayor.

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Yes.

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Mr. Warren?

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Yes.

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Mr. Warren?

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Do you have any email out there?

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I do.

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We should have some good answers, then we can get back to you on that, and that was well put

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Thank you very much.

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I don't know about anybody else in this room.

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I'd like you to ask those public room.

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And I know that you've made a really good attempt

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to be transparent on this.

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I really appreciate for this for that.

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We're trying.

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And I think that we would all be happy to answer these questions.

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We've really have been trying.

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It's difficult in meetings like this,

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just because this is just how our agenda works.

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I just tried to stress how important I was going to build a more

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tournament with a few, but it's not good, but it sure was really fire.

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It didn't make us about 20 years ago.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Oh gosh.

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I don't know.

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Watch out.

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I didn't.

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Oh wow.

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We should do it.

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Yes.

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We'll give it.

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Yes sir.

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Do you want mine signing in and you're the one that's right?

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Yes, that's the first one.

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Dennis Loney, 740, South 6th Street here in Douglas.

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My concern is traffic.

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Folks at my intersection at 6th and Irwin,

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we have a lot of stop sign runners.

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I've worked with the chief and with Lieutenant Matthews to come up with a plan to do this.

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And I do appreciate Chief and all the officers who have sat and watched.

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We have to come up with something that we're not seeing any change.

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People run that intersection.

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Where I live, I live right across the street from a school, the Wyoming Head Start School.

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And schools have playgrounds, playgrounds, attract children.

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We have probably close to 20 kids in a two-block square block neighborhood.

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Now, five of them, six of them are from the same family, but still.

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We see a lot of kids coming and going.

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We see a lot of older people walking, walking dogs.

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We see, you know, just people out and about.

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It concerns me, it concerns my wife.

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We did have a house get run into or not a house, but they went through their fence.

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I think you know who I'm talking about, right across the street from us.

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And the young man had several stories and nobody really knew what happened.

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But I think he ran the intersection, hit the dip, lost control, and went through their fence.

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Nearly hitting 286-year-old people.

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So that's where I started to watch my intersection.

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They had done the PDA done survey and it turned out that 31% of the people did not stop for the stop signs.

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Just this morning we saw a nice close call between a pickup and two bicycles, luckily the kids stopped and everybody was safe.

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But that is my concern, it's simple, it's traffic loss, oh, Bangalore, and Chief, our last conversation,

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you asked me if I'd ever got it in the morning, 33 years, no, I've had two tickets.

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And I learned from, so I believe that that's where we're at.

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I think we need to, officer discretion is great, and I do appreciate that.

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But we need to see tickets given.

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and it happens all over town. I understand that. Not all over town do we have schools

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and playgrounds at an intersection that 31% of the people do not stop. I see a lead there

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and her older sister. So we get to talk every now and then. That's all I have. I do appreciate

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Chief, did you guys are there? I know you can't do more. Being there, just not, it's out of

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a question, but I do appreciate you being there. I like to stop, say thank you to the guys

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that do show up. I think it was you over there the other morning and I was coming out

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and you had to go. That's all I saw around. I kind of thought of that. I kind of thought

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that. But again, I do appreciate PD for what they do. I would like to see a little more

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enforcement of that intersection. We had talked about flashing stoplights. We had talked about

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rumble strips. Have you spoke to John about rumble strips? We got it. Okay, rumble strips just remind

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people that they're coming to a stop sign. How do young lady last night? Take a right turn right

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in front of my house. Didn't even slow down. I said, that's a stop sign. She turned around and said,

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I'm lost and ran this stuff so I'm going straight.

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That's not typical, but that is what happens.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This man, if you tell us who you are, if you want my signing in.

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My name is Kara Kos.

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And I am here to propose a cost sharing program with the residents, citizens of Douglas and

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the city to create a screen on dumpsters. I own the blue buffalo motel and we're the dumpsters

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set. It's just very unsightly. And I'm in the process of trying to clean it up and I wanted

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to, I want to, like, fence in the dumpster area. And I know that the city has other cost share

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programs like with the sidewalks or you know anything like that. I don't imagine it would be an

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exorbitant.

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I think that there are definitely some areas in town where it would just look a little more aesthetically pleasing.

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And I was told that it would be more effective if I came and suggested it myself to you.

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Do you actually need my address on here?

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District email.

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Okay.

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Thank you. Anyone else?

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Hi, guys.

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Sally O'Bam, six, eighty-eight Williams. I'm here about the water because I'm very concerned.

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Sorry.

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Okay, so I'm just I'm wanting to see if we're going to continue on kind of like

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Mr. Clause was talking about the building moratorium. I'm very concerned that

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I mean, we saw in the news just a few years ago about Hawaii and LA and Fort Collins how the fires just ripped through those towns and they couldn't be stopped if we're low on water

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How are we gonna stop the fires and if we're giving out more water to new developments the rec center different things like that

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Very concerned about not having enough water for the people who are here

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Are you gonna stop the rec center and other new projects?

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and are we going to put all of our financial resources towards our biggest challenge as a business

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owner. I have to prioritize my spending all the time and I want to have all the fun new

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gadgets and the put presses and all this cool stuff that I have to spend my money on new

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grinders and making sure that my employees are happy. I put a ton of resources into my employees.

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I can't pay for people to do their golf tournaments if I can't run a business. I feel it's

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with us. We can't have new people coming in, be able to support them. If our resources are solo,

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anyway, that's might very grave concern at this point. Thank you.

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Yes, I'm Tony Razzles.

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I'm 11339 North Forestry.

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Council on Weeks. Can you hear? Council on Weeks. Can you hear us?

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I'm here to speak about the resolution that you have before us, my understanding is with the ethics, I saw the previous one you were looking at and the one you're proposing I believe is six pages and you talked about following chain of command.

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Well my question, one of my questions on this, no chain of command, is can a city employee

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E come forward and talk to a city council member at any time if they have a question or

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do they have to follow a chain of what you call chain of command?

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If they have a question or a concern, can a city employee come to a council member and just

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ask that question?

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This is the way, so in my opinion, how should work if an employee has a question about work,

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about city work, with their job, they should go through their change of manner.

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If a city employee was also a residence of Douglas Wyoming, has a question that has to do with things outside of work,

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then they are more than welcome to the city council member.

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just like any other citizen is more than welcome to go to any city council member and ask

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a question.

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But when it comes to their job, their specific job duties, they should follow a chain of

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demand.

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The military does it, the police force does it, every job I've ever been in does it.

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When you're asking about the job duties at hand.

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Again, there's that fine line you've got to play with because every one of them, city employees,

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is also a citizen, and they're more than welcome to come ask questions as well.

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correct. So if they have a thought and after work, I would

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they aren't on work, on the clock anymore. They're not on a clock.

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That they can, this week, say you meet one of them at St. Fair, and they have a question

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regarding, say, a city job and to ask a project, it is okay for them to come forward

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and talk to you instead of what you're saying, chain, a command.

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Can they openly talk to you?

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No, not job duties.

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Just a, but it'd be a safe ask you a city related question.

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Then they're a citizen.

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So they can't, they can do that.

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Okay, thank you.

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And I am, I'm here.

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I'm going to defer to our attorney, but again, I think it's a very fine line.

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Yeah, I would say that if someone in public works has a question about something on public works related,

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I don't have no problem with them coming to a council member if they're a citizen,

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but if they're coming to you with complaints about their supervisor or things like that,

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those are things that need to run through the chain of command,

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rather than going to a council member directly.

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Well, if person feels it, or could possibly be retribution towards them, I'd want to talk about an F size, like, free in the speech, can't they just come forward for you and talk to a council member, basically on any issue or any matter?

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Mr. Reynolds, I think we could probably have this discussion at length for a long term, and for safe contact.

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Okay, then I like to talk about water and I know you said it's been an issue for many years.

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I've part true, I was on council years ago, and I know it was discussed at that time,

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but when I was on council, we were never in a situation such as we are now, spring line

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produced a lot more water back when I was on council.

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But now with projects that are going out and it's brought up very good presentation by Mr.

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Or any of some of these big projects, buildings, motels, everything being built.

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I don't have enough water today for the needs of the people.

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I mean, there's been restrictions.

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You know, we've been told basically you can water three days a week.

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Do not water between 10 am and 6 pm.

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Okay, I can understand the heat of the day of the watering, but as far as engineers come

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out and seeing a project to build, to draw it up, to have a project and actually complete

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it, and I believe it was came out last Friday, we're talking five years down the road before

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it would be up online and running. Is that correct?

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Okay, it could be. Okay, and one

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and I can help it say is, okay we've not only have a water issue and yes we haven't been

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able to solve it, but these seven and a half percent water rate increases annually when we're

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actually getting less product. There's less product for the people. We haven't had these restrictions

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for a number of years. I wouldn't have hoped that the city would not have a water rate increase

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Until this problem can be solved, it's like we're paying more for a product that we're getting less off.

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And, you know, it's something I wish Council would really consider, because I know in speaking with a few people,

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they said, well, the city said they're being proactive, they're looking for sources, they're looking for water, possible wealth, possible treatment, facility, and I understand what they said.

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But the common I've heard from a few people is, well, the only thing when it comes to water that I know the cults is actually proactive at, is raising our rates, and I'm not going to stand in point fingers at anybody, but that comment is pretty darn hard to disagree with.

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greats have gone up they've gone up and we have less product today and I'd be

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more unhappy to entertain any questions for many of you.

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Thank you.

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I could please tell us who you are if you don't mind signing in.

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Yeah. Hi I'm Mariah McCree and I am the executive director of the enterprise and I just

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wanted to make a comment regarding some of the stuff that is on tonight's agenda charter

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ordinance number 1060. Madam mayor and council members, as your economic development director,

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I urge you to support this ordinance 1060. Our current state mandated quotas fail to account

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for the real demands of Douglas, particularly our vibrant energy workforce tourism, inflow,

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and regional draw. For example, just recently, our only available Martin Girl License was

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awarded to a hotel project shelving a promising local brewery, an outcome, an outcome not,

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or sorry, an outcome driven not by community needs, but by statutoryly, statutoryly, fixed

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limits, allowing local discretion over licensing won't create entitlement, introduces responsible

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flexibility, preserves public safety standards, aligns licensing and actual conditions,

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and supports a broader range of economic actors.

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Our region ranging from our other regions,

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ranging from rural Massachusetts to Idaho,

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our recognizing similar needs,

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and moving towards local control or reform.

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Douglas has always been led

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with practicality and independence.

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This ordinance continues that tradition

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equipping us to response strategically

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to community development opportunities.

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And I believe it will yield meaningful long-term benefits

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for businesses and residents alike,

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that's a lot of to say. Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Yes,

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sir.

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I guess my name is Michael and back. I wanted to go and say thank you to Councilman

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Councilman that I talked to, particularly to Matt Smith, for contacting the ordinance lady and

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everything she called me today, we do have employment to go and meet at, and I remember

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I was trying to go and see what's going on over there, so I just, instead of just complaining

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all the time, I wanted to go and say thank you for that.

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The water issue has already been brought up, so I don't need to bring that up again.

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But I do, when I go and readress, one thing that was talked about last time about the contractor,

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And I was just wondering if you can let us know what actually happened or because it was being taken care of the contract or the cut by lines or whatever lines.

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So that's all that I have.

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Do you have any report?

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We do have an update on that.

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That has been released, but not everybody does social media and so we can update you on that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Thank you.

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We appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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On to our approval of consent document.

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All of you in the items listed under the consent document are considered to be routine items

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by the governing body and will be enacted upon by one motion unless requests made to take

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up an individual item separately, in which case the item will be placed under council action items

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on intertain motion.

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Madam Mayor, I move to approve the consent document as presented.

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Thank you.

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Second.

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Second.

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Second.

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Second.

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second and any further discussion.

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All in favor, City of Barbosa and I.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Motion carries five to zero.

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On to our first presentation, we have a new employee.

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Michelle Carter, human resource director,

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staff report, City Manager Cups.

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So you're going to know that.

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I don't want to ask you anything.

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That's like that.

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I get afternoon mayor members of Council members of the public.

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It's my extreme pleasure to introduce to you our new HR director.

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Michelle Carter. Michelle is a native of Douglas board and raised here. She has over 11 years of leadership and management experience.

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She has a master's degree in organizational management and also a master's in business administration in VA.

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She's been married for 18 years. She has a son who's a sophomore in Douglas High School.

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and a stepdaughter is in juvenile who is a juvenile probation officer in Nebraska.

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Michelle her words is exciting.

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It's just a pleasure to be a part of the organization and I'm very happy to be here. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next, we have a water update, staff report, water waste water chief, operator, overlander.

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Good afternoon, Madam Mayor and Council.

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As I was introduced, I'm Dr. Belender.

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I'm the water and wastewater frequency supervisor for Douglas.

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And I was asked to just provide a very brief update

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on the water system for Douglas.

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As everybody in the community is painfully aware,

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we did run a little bit of short on water in July

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due to the surface water plant being inoperable

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because of a storm event that made the river dirty.

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That has since been corrected as a river's cleaned up.

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More now, back up to our normal production rate

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from all three water sources this year.

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As we have indicated with the community previously,

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we've had some declines this year in our groundwater

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resource availability due to low snow pack

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and low ground water recharge this winter.

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That has reduced the overall water production available for Douglas.

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So now, currently with all three water resources

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that we have available running,

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we're at about 3 million gallons per day of production.

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Water use, in July, prior to having to enact water conservation

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measures we'd see in days up to 2.7, 2.8 million gallons per day, which is above the 2.4,

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2.5 million gallons per day that we can produce from a round order. That being said,

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we do have several projects that we are working on for resource development for the community

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primarily for different directions or for paths that we're taking.

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And those are non-tributary well-fueled development in the four Union Aquifer in Northeast

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of Douglas, working out either rehabilitating or replacing the surface water treatment plant,

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working on a raw water irrigation system, and then in the more short term, this year looking

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at trying to replace the pump and motor set in the sheet mount well, because as you know,

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with the lower groundwater table on that aquifer

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that pump is having to work harder to try

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to push the water back up to the surface

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and that has led to a decline in the instantaneous pumping

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rate for that facility.

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So the other thing that we have

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is we have a public meeting on August 20th

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for the draft level one water system report,

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HDR will be putting that on that will be here

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in the council chambers.

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And that'll help also they'll be here

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To explain some of the background work for projects for the water system for the next planning

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period that 10 to 20 years out,

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I understand the need for water for the community.

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Myself and my staff, we have been working tirelessly to make sure that Douglas is not in

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a position where we can't provide water to the residents.

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We did, we did have some issues with the Surface Water Plant this last month, and I cannot express the gratitude that I have for the community for pulling together and helping out the water system.

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I mean we went from, like I said, 2.7, 2.8 million gallons a day, all the way down to 1.7 to 1.9 million gallons a day, and that is awesome.

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So I cannot think that was enough for their help.

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It is unfortunate that we are short on water.

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We know that we are one thing that I have to ask for is time.

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Madam Mary, you did an excellent job on Friday, kind of explaining some of the background work for the surface water plant.

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And I've provided some other kind of historical data references, you know, for Douglas and how we've managed different water sources over the years.

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Water resource and development is incredibly expensive and it's incredibly time consuming.

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And while there is pressure to move fast, we're not in a position to make another mistake with a surface water facility that doesn't do the job that it's supposed to do.

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We are working with the engineering firm that we have selected right now that's analyzing the conditions in the North Black River.

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And we're trying to shorten that project up to see where we can save time and meaningful ways to get a surface water plant online for the community faster.

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Part of

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what we have to look forward to in the future is as we develop water resources,

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we know that those are going to be very expensive to bring online.

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And so we have to plan and prepare for that ahead of time through modest rate increases now,

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so we don't have catastrophic rate increases in the future as we bring those sources online.

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So, I will, in the next month or two, be coming to you, providing more information for that

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service work, for the sheet mountain number one well, for the costs associated with replacing

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that pumping equipment, and I will be bringing up HDR, the engineering firm that's doing

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the assessment on the surface water plant before the end of this calendar year, and we

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We will have base level costs associated with the treatment, the type of treatment that would

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be required for that plant, and a very preliminary timeline for bringing that facility

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online for the four union well-field development.

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We have been working with our groundwater consultant.

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And we have identified potentially three sites on three different parcels of land owned by

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different individuals.

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We've made contact with one of the land owners and they have responded back and so we're

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beginning to schedule a meeting with those good folks to talk about potential for groundwater

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development,

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even kind of walking back with some of the previous

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developments that we've seen with the water system, even, you know, handful years ago with

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the little box owners spring, for us to replace that springhouse building and replace that

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pipeline into town, that project alone, for existing infrastructure for Douglas, that took us

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in order of eight years to get everything lined up. And that's talking with landowners on the

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00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:47,910
requirements to drawing up plans and paperwork and getting all of the background work and

457
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:52,850
then getting the projects completed. And so it's as much as I wish that we could

458
00:37:55,090 --> 00:38:02,110
instantaneously or very, very quickly solve these problems. They are labor intensive and

459
00:38:02,110 --> 00:38:09,410
time intensive and I just rest assured we are doing everything that we can to try to move everything along.

460
00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:15,770
if there's any specific questions.

461
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:16,710
I don't know.

462
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:17,690
I don't know.

463
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:17,850
Okay.

464
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:21,990
First off, thank you for everything you've done for our city lately.

465
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:23,890
I mean, it cannot be easy meeting in your position.

466
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,190
So you've done an amazing job and we thank you for all of your updates.

467
00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:30,770
So start with my 30 correct questions.

468
00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:32,110
Yes?

469
00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:35,050
We were not in a drought for the last two years.

470
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:37,910
Would we be in as a bad of a position that we are today?

471
00:38:39,070 --> 00:38:46,510
That is a very good question, Councilman Hirschberger, and the short answer to that is no.

472
00:38:48,130 --> 00:38:51,430
Douglas relies heavily on groundwater.

473
00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:59,230
And so between our two groundwater sources, that makes up roughly 80 to 85 per, well,

474
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:06,870
between the little box elder spring and the sheep out and well, 90 to 95 percent of all of the water that Douglas uses in the year.

475
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:10,410
The other 5 to 10% is surface water from the treatment plant.

476
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:17,070
We've seen declines in flow rates so, like with a little box elder spring,

477
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:25,110
in a peak year with good recharge, that spring will flow at 1,400 gallons per minute.

478
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:33,170
This year, right now, on my reports that I saw yesterday, we're bringing in roughly 950 gallons per minute.

479
00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:40,470
The Sheet Mountain Welles adjudicated for 1,200 gallons per minute with the pumping equipment

480
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:46,190
with the lower groundwater table were pumping about 9 to 950 gallons per minute.

481
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:51,130
And so that drought absolutely affects groundwater resources.

482
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:57,110
One thing that we have noticed is that overall in the last year we implemented the water-wise

483
00:39:57,110 --> 00:40:02,450
program started working with our Parks Department, large water users, and we actually have

484
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:10,830
seen at an overall horror in total consumption use within the city, which has been a huge benefit

485
00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:12,590
to the water system this year.

486
00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,130
So, we even went to the drought, had we not had the massive storm at Clark's Aquabaria

487
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:24,750
and it's a bit of a tragedy on the river, we wouldn't have had the massive issue we had in July

488
00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:28,310
with water treatment plant, had a not been for that massive storm, even with the drought.

489
00:40:31,810 --> 00:40:38,720
The surface water plant is a difficult facility to manage.

490
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:46,520
There were some decisions made for the construction of that facility that really hamper

491
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,220
how effective and how efficient that is in operation.

492
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,620
The design point of that treatment facility was 2.0 million gallons per day.

493
00:40:55,620 --> 00:41:03,700
Currently treatment plants now, if we can operate that facility at roughly 0.5 to 0.6 million gallons per day.

494
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,620
So 25% of what it was designed to do.

495
00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:14,420
One of the other operational issues that we run into is typically in treatment facilities.

496
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,200
You see like lead and standby equipment.

497
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,420
So you'll have one pump and sort of as one pump and standby.

498
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:28,780
When you're running like filtration equipment or treatment trains, you'll typically see a series of filters in service and a series of filter in standby.

499
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,200
So that way when you have cumulative head loss or plugging on the filters, you can switch over to the standby equipment.

500
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:39,500
This facility was constructed with three filters.

501
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:47,040
And so we don't have an opportunity to run filtration equipment and lead standby format that's standard in the industry.

502
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:54,280
So then any time we have to take a filter down for cleaning, and I guess for the group to

503
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,160
these are quite a bit larger than you would think of for a filter, a three filter

504
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:06,000
base, each filter is like 68 feet by 120 feet. So they're quite large. Every time a filter

505
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:17,020
has to be cleaned, the water has to be pumped off of the top of the filter, the sand has to be

506
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:21,420
off at the top of the filter before it's placed back in the service and so

507
00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:28,460
excuse me so just with the time of taking a filter down to pump it down to

508
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:32,820
clean it to bring that filter back online make sure that the filtered water

509
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:38,560
qualities acceptable for drinking water and put back into service you even if

510
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,880
you don't have issues with the other two filters you reduce the flow rate

511
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:51,800
through that plant by 30% so you cut your production down to 350,000 or 0.35 MDD with one filter out of service.

512
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,420
So I'm going to jump ahead and jump back real quick.

513
00:42:54,740 --> 00:43:01,720
So are we giving you or are you being able to get everything you need to make sure that our plant is 2050 ready?

514
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:10,720
Are we giving you the resources or is there something we can do better to give you the resources to make sure that that facility is 2050 ready?

515
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:15,000
Could you explain to me what 2050 ready is?

516
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:19,940
Our plant used to be able to get us to 2050 and right now our plant can't do that.

517
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:20,360
Correct.

518
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,780
So are we giving you resources and things we need to get us to that point?

519
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:39,540
So the planning number that I'm working for right now for probable cost of construction for a surface water treatment facility

520
00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:43,060
is somewhere in the neighborhood between 20 to 30 million dollars.

521
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:46,820
This fiscal year in our capital plan,

522
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000
I had asked to reserve roughly four million dollars

523
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,620
to set that aside so that way we can accumulate money

524
00:43:54,620 --> 00:43:57,180
as we're working through the design of the facility.

525
00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:00,540
So we have money more funding available

526
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:02,700
when that facility were to come online.

527
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:07,840
And through that, yes, the City Council has shown

528
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,180
that they do have a priority for construction

529
00:44:12,180 --> 00:44:13,740
for surface water treatment plan.

530
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:15,600
Okay, so if there's anything else we can do,

531
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,500
please let us know.

532
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:18,400
Yeah, so then I'm gonna jump backwards,

533
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,120
and I think I only have three more questions.

534
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,720
So, she found it all number two has been drilled,

535
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,840
they've got water out of it, but the contaminants

536
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,120
in it are so bad that it is not

537
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
feasibly usable for us.

538
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,200
The short version, yes.

539
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Okay.

540
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,920
Do we have somebody working with the state?

541
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,280
Because I know that a long time ago we were allocated so many acre feet,

542
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,380
while I'd make her house it said.

543
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,020
Aker feet.

544
00:44:48,140 --> 00:44:50,780
Aker feet per year, we'll say.

545
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,260
Because I know that was done a long time ago.

546
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:59,840
Is somebody working with the state to find a way to allocate us more acre feet per year?

547
00:45:04,180 --> 00:45:12,720
So, the answer to that question, Councilman Hirschberger, what you're referring to is the PRIP program, the Plap River Recovery Implementation Program.

548
00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:23,400
So, three states came together, Wyoming, Nebraska and Colorado, to mitigate depletions on the river, the North Plap River,

549
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:31,240
because the North Plap River is over-appropriated, and as you hit the downstream reaches, there are endangered species that were at risk.

550
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:34,780
And so the federal government gave the states the choice.

551
00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:41,520
You can either manage the river system internally or we can come in and manage the river for you.

552
00:45:41,820 --> 00:45:47,960
And so the states opted through a Tri-State Compact, formed that Plap River Recovery Implementation Program,

553
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,000
and they benchmarked all users on the North Plap River System.

554
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:57,920
And so they looked at how much water was historically used, and you are correct.

555
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:05,920
was quite a few years ago. This was in three years like 1994 to 1997. And for municipalities,

556
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,720
they added a percentage increase onto that benchmark, but where we are currently allocated

557
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:23,520
is 920 acre feet net depletion in the summer and 288 acre feet net depletion in the winter.

558
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:29,000
So that's everything that we withdraw from the river system minus the return flows through

559
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,420
our wastewater treatment facility.

560
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:38,220
And those benchmark allocations for all practical purposes are set in stone.

561
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,440
And so they're because they're not making more water for the river, the only other option

562
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:49,240
to try to mitigate those depletions is to acquire additional surface water rights, which

563
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,300
is something else that we've been.

564
00:46:51,300 --> 00:47:01,720
Okay, so but the spring down the sheet mountain well also are included in that because they flow into the river correct. Okay, so we can't no matter what we do, we're

565
00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:10,500
Yes, so

566
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:11,360
So

567
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:20,300
This is why we're working on the well field north east of Douglas because it's outside of the green zone and we're currently talking to one person so we can possibly drill some more wells

568
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:24,200
get more allocated, outside of the green zone, allocated two ducks.

569
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:31,420
And I try to paint things very broadly with a simple brush, and I always try to say, you know,

570
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,620
the cheap easy to get too water is gone.

571
00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:40,500
When we start looking out north and east of Douglas for water, we're looking in a completely

572
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:42,140
different groundwater compartment.

573
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,140
We're not looking in the Paleozoic aquifer system anymore.

574
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,940
We're going to be looking in the most likely the Fort Union aquifer.

575
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:55,560
One of the things that was very beneficial for the city of Douglas was the sheet mountain well.

576
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:05,120
That well in the sandstone limestone formation where it was drilled has excellent water quality in a very high yield.

577
00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:09,980
And so, currently right now we have a 200 horsepower pump and motor combination.

578
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,720
I can hit the go button on that well and we're making 1,000 gallons minute.

579
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,540
And that well, we'll make it all day long as long as I can keep the power on.

580
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:27,100
And as we start moving north from Douglas, the type of rocks in the ground change.

581
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,080
We start looking for, they're more tightly cemented sandstones.

582
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,140
They don't have any like cars, their solution openings in them.

583
00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:38,340
And so what you see is very deep wells.

584
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:44,680
Like the sheet mount number one well is drilled to approximately 1150 feet.

585
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,300
The wells that were kind of targeting out north.

586
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:53,100
Most likely the drilling depth is going to be between 2,000 and 2,600 feet.

587
00:48:54,260 --> 00:49:02,260
The number one well, the drawdown, the difference between the pumping rate and the static water level in the well, is roughly 10 feet.

588
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:08,600
When we start pumping these wells, if they're successful and we drill them in all that,

589
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,180
the drawdown can be as much as like 6 to 800 feet.

590
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:15,200
And so that can really negatively affect pumping rates.

591
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:23,480
The instantaneous yield per well is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 to 150 gallons per minute per well.

592
00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:29,180
And that drawdown or that cone of depression that each well makes

593
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:36,300
to mitigate the impact from each well, to the other wells within that well field,

594
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:43,140
they'll have to be almost a mile apart. And so initially when we were trying to figure out how to

595
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:50,720
create financial viability because we have long transmission lines and a lot of boreholes that

596
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:58,200
have to be drilled, that well field becomes very expensive. And so kind of minimum target yields

597
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:04,180
what we're looking at is, is five to 600 gallons a minute, 10 months out of the year, estimated

598
00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:11,420
pipeline transmission line length is between seven and 10 miles plus all your laterals

599
00:50:11,420 --> 00:50:12,720
for each connecting well.

600
00:50:13,580 --> 00:50:19,240
And it's going to be a very expensive endeavor in itself, water quality in the four

601
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,900
in and can be real mixed.

602
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,520
And there's a very high probability of WC, they're having to perform blending between individual

603
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:32,240
wells and or providing treatment from that well field before it comes into Douglas to be

604
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:37,960
used as drinking water. But yes, you are absolutely correct. That water is considered

605
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:43,480
on tributary to the North Plot, so it will not count against us for our depletions, which

606
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,960
is another critically important factor as we look forward for additional supply.

607
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,660
So I mean, no matter what we do, this is going to be timely.

608
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,900
I mean, we're at five to ten years out, obviously, no matter what we do, I'm guessing

609
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,280
if we could be doing something that would be great.

610
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:06,760
My last question to you would be, if we were to put two to three more tanks in, would

611
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,880
it help at all.

612
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:16,880
And that's initially, you know, a very initial thought is, do we have enough water storage?

613
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:22,800
So right now Douglas has four water storage reservoirs for the community.

614
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,920
Some are true storage reservoirs like the Sheet Mountain tank is we actually utilize that as

615
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,740
more if a buffer for a start and stops on the well.

616
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,600
Out of that 6 million gallons of storage you can't keep every tank full, you know 100% of

617
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,020
the time and we have to reserve a fair amount for fire supply plus you have to keep a certain

618
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:48,200
elevation in the tank to maintain adequate pressure within the distribution system.

619
00:51:49,460 --> 00:51:55,400
So out of that six million gallons of potential storage availability, there is roughly

620
00:51:56,220 --> 00:52:01,100
seven, six to seven to eight hundred thousand gallons at any given minute that's available for

621
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,260
drinking water supply. And so you say, well,

622
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,100
yell, let's throw another tank in. And in summertime, when water use is really high in

623
00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:16,020
That could be a possibility, and so we can say you've got 6 million gallons of water storage

624
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:23,140
and Douglas uses 3 million gallons of water a day. Your water age then is roughly two days.

625
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:32,040
As we back down from peak demands in the summertime when we start heading into the low winter baseline demands,

626
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,880
your water age can creep up to 6, 7, 8 days and that's one thing that water does not

627
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,840
like to do is be kept held captive for too long and you can actually start to get some

628
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,940
negative impacts to your water quality if you hold it for too long and so we do have to

629
00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:55,080
find kind of that perfect balance between what is enough water storage and what is too much.

630
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:02,860
We have identified one water storage tank, the cemetery tank that sits just about

631
00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:07,460
washington park. It sits lower than the rest of the distribution system. It really

632
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:14,580
doesn't supply adequate demand for the community. And so we actually, part of what

633
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:18,620
we're doing for our capital master plan, as we would like to replace that water

634
00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:24,340
storage reservoir with a newer one at the proper elevation. So it will match the

635
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:30,240
a tank for pressure, and then we'll have two water storage tanks that are balanced for the

636
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:36,220
largest pressure zone in Douglas. Right now, staff's recommendation is to increase

637
00:53:36,220 --> 00:53:41,100
that storage reservoir from a 2 million gallon tank up to a 3 million gallon tank. So that

638
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:48,100
will increase a little bit of supply, but then having one additional tank balancing on the

639
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:54,640
just pressures on and Douglas will help attenuate daily fluctuations in demand greatly.

640
00:53:56,300 --> 00:54:00,020
Thank you for running me. I appreciate it.

641
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:03,940
Thank you. Thank you. Good job.

642
00:54:04,220 --> 00:54:07,120
Just like I like to echo, I can't remember who's produced.

643
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,300
Thomas, he's done a great job with all this.

644
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,360
I appreciate all your work.

645
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,960
Two things, the public hearing years talking about

646
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,560
with the water treatment study.

647
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,420
The draft report for example.

648
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,480
This one is good.

649
00:54:23,620 --> 00:54:27,460
I understand that we maybe have some staff comments on that report.

650
00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:31,440
We offer those comments before the public hearing or...

651
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,780
Yeah, so if you can just compile them,

652
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:36,420
I will get those sent to you to the water development commission.

653
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Do you expect what they update the draft in before the community or...

654
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,180
I suspect not.

655
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:46,720
Okay, those people have the comments from the staff and they'll support those, maybe.

656
00:54:47,260 --> 00:54:52,400
Yeah, and the public hearing for the draft report is also for public comments on the draft report.

657
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,600
And then so then after that, then the report will be revised for what will be the final edition of the report.

658
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:04,480
The other question I had was regarding the water treatment plan.

659
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,980
It's been quite, I hope they haven't been in other communities where this water treatment

660
00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:14,360
plant does this treat to a water and in fact those are limited the way it is.

661
00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:23,800
Do you know if the improvements that are being talked about if we could get back to the two million

662
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,940
gallons per day and if we could treat higher-turvish waters?

663
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Yes.

664
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:29,680
That's perfect.

665
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:44,340
So, the very short answer, so the type of treatment that we have, sorry, I don't mean to hijack this evening at all, but the type of water treatment that Douglas has is what they call a slow-sand water filtration plant.

666
00:55:45,020 --> 00:55:58,560
And that's a very fancy long way of saying, for every square foot of filter media that you have, you're passing less than one tenth of one gallon per minute per foot of filter media.

667
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:08,820
And so when you look at like a rapid sand or a conventional filter filtration plant, you're passing as much as 3 to 5 gallons per minute per square foot to filter media.

668
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:28,540
When those filters in a conventional plant reach head loss or become plugged, you can turn on the pump, you backwash the filter, it cleans, you can recirculate that water back through, get that filter bed settle, and put that filter back in operation in a matter of hours compared to days like we can with the slow sand plant.

669
00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:38,200
Just by their nature, slow-sam filtration, because it is such a large filter media, they are

670
00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:47,040
not in-quiet, they don't like to operate with large changes and flow rate to the plant.

671
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,400
And so we always kind of equate it to the crock pot of treatment facilities.

672
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,680
Once you turn it on and you get it go and you just kind of let it do its business, that

673
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,040
being said, they don't like big swings in changes in source water.

674
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:10,060
So when we have stormwater events, any time the river, what we would consider is mildly

675
00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:16,860
turbid, 50 NTUs, or greater, that facility has to be taken offline and we wait for conditions

676
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:23,120
in the river to pick up, normally, you know, in this kind of ties back to Councilman

677
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:29,220
Berger's question, our groundwater supplies are providing additional water to Douglas, you know,

678
00:57:29,380 --> 00:57:33,980
and it may not seem like a lot, but if the spring is making 300 gallons a minute lower and I

679
00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:39,820
can pump 100 gallons a minute more out of the sheep out and well, that typically is enough for us

680
00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:46,600
to get by when we have to shut the surface water plant down. This year, because of the drought conditions,

681
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,980
because of low snow pack, we did not have that additional groundwater supply available for us.

682
00:57:51,980 --> 00:58:01,480
And so we did have to enact conservation measures and again I can't think the community enough for coming together.

683
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:11,440
But that being said we did do some jar testing for the surface water plant just as very weak.

684
00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:15,840
And we had retained some buckets of water from when the river was really dirty.

685
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:21,800
And so that water that we had in those buckets was over 3,000 NTUs.

686
00:58:21,940 --> 00:58:23,120
It looked like chocolate milk.

687
00:58:23,620 --> 00:58:27,900
And we found some treatment chemicals to pre-treat the water.

688
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:31,940
That actually brought that water down from 3,000 NTUs down to 2.

689
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,220
And so that water is treatable.

690
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:36,800
There is a way to do it.

691
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,840
There is filtration equipment that can do it.

692
00:58:39,940 --> 00:58:43,600
We just need to work through the process of insuring

693
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:49,540
that we can adequately treat the water in the black river that it meets the conditions for the treatment

694
00:58:49,540 --> 00:58:55,700
facility and we will absolutely get a treatment plant design and constructive that Douglas eats.

695
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,660
Thank you.

696
00:58:59,180 --> 00:58:59,640
Thank you.

697
00:59:00,580 --> 00:59:00,980
Thank you.

698
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,840
All right.

699
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:09,820
On to our discussion items, seducate, compensation, strategy, staff, reporter, to card.

700
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:11,280
Yes, thank you.

701
00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:12,440
Madam Mayor and Councilman.

702
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,700
So you received a copy of the compensation strategy summary from the employees, they provided

703
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:24,140
a thoughtful and candid feedback on the organization's compensation strategy, emphasizing

704
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:29,100
the need for our consistency and the current method, cost of living support and recognition

705
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:34,280
and exceptional work. Key things that the summary are consistency in the current process

706
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,120
that works for its predictability and for siege fairness. The importance of a reliable

707
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,560
colette to keep pace with the rise and living costs and exceptional contributions that are

708
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:49,780
meaningful, we recognize by increases above three and a half percent. Employees also noted that

709
00:59:49,780 --> 00:59:57,220
any shift in the current method could impact morale. Recommendation, so based on the feedback gathered

710
00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:59,980
from employees regarding the current and potential fee.

711
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Your compensation strategy. The following recommendations are offered to the Council's consideration.

712
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:12,140
Maintain the current merit system as a basis for all employees in support of consistency and predictability.

713
01:00:13,060 --> 01:00:20,000
Introduce a COLA component as a hybrid approach if a lowered tiered system or put in place with a current model.

714
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,720
We reward high and exceptional performers with an increase above the standard 3 and a half percent when funding allows.

715
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,500
And ensure that the performance based and color components are financially sustainable by evaluating them annually.

716
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,100
I reckon they're taking any questions if you have them.

717
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:42,200
What's your definition of morale?

718
01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:54,170
I would say definition of morale for the employees that submitted feedback are just consistency in what we're offering for benefits.

719
01:00:54,190 --> 01:01:02,450
for them on a yearly basis. I believe from the summary, some of the benefits have been given

720
01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:09,890
and then taken away and that just affects their performance at work, how they can live their

721
01:01:09,890 --> 01:01:17,290
life cost of living. I mean it encompasses a lot. How they're coming to work in a happy manner

722
01:01:17,290 --> 01:01:23,930
or going home and trying to live paycheck to paycheck, it really comprises a lot for them.

723
01:01:24,190 --> 01:01:32,490
And of course the city where the council's main job is where the watchdogs of the city's money.

724
01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:45,430
Do you guys know that the budget for insurance for all the employees that the city pays for currently is

725
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:55,530
$2.3 million every year currently?

726
01:01:56,330 --> 01:02:04,950
And then to take care of retirement, which the city also pays for, not 100% there are occasions

727
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:12,010
when it'll shift between the police department and the city employees depending on the increases.

728
01:02:14,030 --> 01:02:16,850
There may be a small portion that the employee has to pay.

729
01:02:18,090 --> 01:02:20,590
And I'm not that smart, I just met with Mary.

730
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:27,690
And then so that number is over $800,000 a year.

731
01:02:27,930 --> 01:02:32,150
So total, it's well over $3 million that the city pays.

732
01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:38,070
Two meetings ago are sales tax was way down.

733
01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:41,790
Two millions a good year or a good month.

734
01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:50,310
And it was at $1.1 million, which is significantly less.

735
01:02:50,310 --> 01:03:14,650
And we'll get the next one here pretty quick, but we have to be careful because instead of taking everything away at one time and I've seen that happen I was a city employee when there was no raise at all in any form because the council members at the time didn't think that the city could survive that.

736
01:03:16,530 --> 01:03:22,450
So that's, and the reason when this zero, two, four came out, it wasn't so much the

737
01:03:22,450 --> 01:03:22,790
kite.

738
01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:28,890
It was more to get supervisors at choice because the other choice was 3.5 or nothing.

739
01:03:31,010 --> 01:03:37,910
So some employees were going to get 3.5, some excellent employees were going to get 3.5.

740
01:03:38,110 --> 01:03:44,530
And I think that is more demoralizing than anything to work your butt off and see a coworker

741
01:03:44,530 --> 01:03:48,470
that maybe doesn't work quite as hard, getting the same increase.

742
01:03:49,550 --> 01:03:57,090
And when I made that 024, I 100% said I'm not stuck on those numbers, that's just what

743
01:03:57,090 --> 01:03:58,270
came to me.

744
01:03:59,050 --> 01:04:05,710
But again, that is our primary duty is to make sure that the city stays wholesome with

745
01:04:05,710 --> 01:04:06,290
its money.

746
01:04:08,890 --> 01:04:10,030
But thank you for your definition.

747
01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:11,050
That was good definition.

748
01:04:11,050 --> 01:04:13,410
That is 0, 2, 4 is above me on the collar,

749
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:16,760
though.

750
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Check that.

751
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,580
It took the place of the 3.5.

752
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,000
That's 0, 2, 4.

753
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,760
But you got your collar, and you got your 2, 4.

754
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,080
So you could get a 6.5.

755
01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:29,600
If there was a collar, yeah.

756
01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:30,420
Yeah, okay.

757
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,900
You know, and I think one thing to tell,

758
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,080
if there's a way, and I know there's a way that county does this,

759
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:43,320
but if every base to show what we're paying monthly,

760
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:50,480
medical insurance, which we pay a hundred percent, $3,000 for a family, $1,000 for an

761
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:58,620
individual, the employee pays zero. We pay 18.67 percent on retirement. We pay a hundred percent

762
01:04:58,620 --> 01:05:09,360
of that. And I think our compensation packages very fair, but I don't think everyone

763
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:16,520
understands what they're actually getting and I know on the county every

764
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,700
paper you know exactly what they paid for your compensation. If there's a

765
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:29,560
way that we can do that I think it would be beneficial and I sure don't want

766
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,760
to see it or we just have to say we can't afford anything. I mean we were too

767
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:44,000
to an app years ago to get things, the compensation prior to then was terrible, and we made

768
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,980
some huge changes to an app years ago, and we sure don't want to go back to that.

769
01:05:51,280 --> 01:06:00,830
But I know showing on the pace to, I think there was something in our programming or something

770
01:06:00,830 --> 01:06:03,370
It didn't work very well, but,

771
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,520
and I do understand in reading through what you've had

772
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:19,060
Michelle, if all employees know that 3.5% is a target, it is better than maybe not

773
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:22,200
this and I do understand that.

774
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:29,540
And so I'm not opposed to leaving that step the way it is, but there could be a possibility

775
01:06:30,740 --> 01:06:34,220
jailstacks, but it drives up that we wouldn't have,

776
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,400
I mean, I invite Erie to adjust the piece of

777
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:49,830
if Mary would like you. I'm not aware of it ever. Anyone asking that question for it to be on the

778
01:06:49,830 --> 01:07:04,610
piece of it? I did. I did. I did. I did. It is an option for some of it. However, we do

779
01:07:04,610 --> 01:07:11,570
place that shows what their annual events are along with their pay, and they do get that

780
01:07:11,570 --> 01:07:16,150
annually for that, and I can begin to have other options in that.

781
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:16,470
Please?

782
01:07:17,890 --> 01:07:20,150
The monthly options are the pay period.

783
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:23,400
Okay.

784
01:07:25,550 --> 01:07:26,810
Anything else on it?

785
01:07:28,350 --> 01:07:28,650
Okay.

786
01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:32,810
I have one comment on the paperwork that you sent out.

787
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:44,500
And it's just because I have a hard time with this one. It says equal increases for all needs performance standards and for most fairness and reduces bias

788
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:49,460
And disagree with that comment

789
01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:52,360
I don't know if you can do anything about

790
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:57,680
And the reason I disagree with that comment is I believe Matt brought it up a few minutes ago

791
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:02,520
If I am performing a hundred percent all the time

792
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,000
And I'm watching somebody else perform 50% all the time.

793
01:08:06,260 --> 01:08:11,960
If he gets the same pay raise that I get, why should I work any harder?

794
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,720
That's what that's my comment.

795
01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:21,580
And what's being done to bring the 50% up?

796
01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:24,870
May I comment?

797
01:08:25,250 --> 01:08:25,570
That's a question.

798
01:08:25,630 --> 01:08:26,450
Thank you, Councillor.

799
01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:27,330
I appreciate it.

800
01:08:27,350 --> 01:08:27,850
Do I comment?

801
01:08:28,010 --> 01:08:33,990
And I do know that there have been half steps or no steps at all for those that are not

802
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:34,470
performing.

803
01:08:35,690 --> 01:08:41,630
So, in a way we are doing it to your system, even though some employees get three and a half percent,

804
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:46,570
some may only jump up by 2% until they can perform in an adequate way.

805
01:08:47,210 --> 01:08:51,890
So, we are offering that to employees and to supervisors and directors.

806
01:08:56,590 --> 01:08:57,630
Thank you.

807
01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:58,770
Okay.

808
01:08:59,470 --> 01:09:04,130
Our next one is travel expenses for the end staff report director Nickle.

809
01:09:04,130 --> 01:09:05,730
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

810
01:09:06,010 --> 01:09:06,430
Thank you for the council.

811
01:09:07,250 --> 01:09:11,190
So the preparation right is just information on the process

812
01:09:11,190 --> 01:09:15,150
of a podium system, resident and actual payment

813
01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:20,570
of the expenses that employment occurs for meals.

814
01:09:21,750 --> 01:09:25,130
During a training conference that they have.

815
01:09:26,210 --> 01:09:28,770
So I just prepared the information on what

816
01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:30,890
how we would have to pay for a podium.

817
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:34,950
rather than the regular just payout.

818
01:09:35,190 --> 01:09:38,030
I did include some actual trips comparison,

819
01:09:38,770 --> 01:09:41,810
and where we would pay if we paid per day out.

820
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:45,050
And just for those few examples,

821
01:09:45,490 --> 01:09:49,010
the increase cost of the city would incur a per day out of the situation

822
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:50,810
rather than the actual, as I choose.

823
01:09:51,310 --> 01:09:52,790
And I'd be happy to answer any questions.

824
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,860
Just real quick.

825
01:09:56,060 --> 01:10:03,380
What's your current meal per breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

826
01:10:03,380 --> 01:10:06,520
at the current, what you're doing right now.

827
01:10:06,820 --> 01:10:08,580
We don't have a specific amount,

828
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,720
but we do lead that to the departments,

829
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,620
description, and the employees,

830
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:16,360
and just making sure that they are

831
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,120
concerned about the budget and the process.

832
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,500
We don't have a specific amount that we

833
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,580
require them to be under.

834
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,920
And if you do the, if we switch to Perdiam,

835
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,480
are you going to be able to give them a partial Perdiam

836
01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:31,640
on a trip?

837
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,960
So they'll make sure they have enough money to cover it?

838
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:48,440
That would create a lot of additional work in the finance department, and it does somewhat go against because all payments are supposed to be approved by council before they're made.

839
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:56,220
So it does kind of go for, against that we'd have to make some adjustments in our policies and really look at that process to do that.

840
01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:58,180
That's the way council chose to do that.

841
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:07,220
Okay. Thank you. I'm the one that brought this up. I'm tired of seeing copies bought on the

842
01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:16,260
same credit card. And when I see a three dollar meal, it's not a meal. And it just bothers

843
01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:22,200
me that we're paying for that. And if it was for DM, they could buy 10 copies a day. I don't

844
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:29,440
care. But it's just troubling that the taxpayers are buying copies. And that's the reason

845
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:35,380
I did that. And I know that the county and the school I've talked to both of them, they'd

846
01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:41,000
pay the per VM before they ever go on the trip. I don't know what other stuff they had to do.

847
01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:47,780
But if a person's given $20 for breakfast, $25 for lunch and 30 for dinner, whatever.

848
01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:54,140
Once I get the money I could care less if they don't need it all in great selling copies, I don't care.

849
01:11:55,580 --> 01:12:07,480
But I just want that to month, to month, to seeing these three dollars and it just is troubling to me that we're doing that.

850
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:27,800
And so we see some meals that are really traveling and it wouldn't make any difference if they were paid, they could not eat breakfast and lunch and have a huge meal, whatever, but it's just that's the reason I've brought them.

851
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,820
And real quick, city employees, do you all know what PDM is?

852
01:12:33,580 --> 01:12:38,800
It's a federal system where every location in the United States and even overseas,

853
01:12:39,460 --> 01:12:43,620
they will give you a total amount for your breakfast, your lunch, and your dinner.

854
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:49,820
So if you go to that area, like Cody, it's going to have a perdiam rate,

855
01:12:50,060 --> 01:12:54,620
and you're going to get that money back when you return,

856
01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:59,460
But it doesn't matter what you buy, you don't have to turn in a receipt.

857
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:02,120
That's the money you're going to get.

858
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:09,720
And if you take ramen and eat nothing but ramen, you can pocket that money if you choose to.

859
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:15,460
The military uses it, a lot of cities use it, and we have not used it.

860
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,700
And the last one we brought it up was to make it a little more comfortable for you,

861
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:27,680
So you're not worried about, well, if I don't eat breakfast, maybe I can afford a lunch at

862
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:34,720
this restaurant, you'll know exactly what your amount is, and you can look at the federal

863
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:41,440
premium rate, you can get it online, you'll see that during front-share days, shy and sky

864
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:45,060
rockets because hotels go up and meals go up.

865
01:13:45,620 --> 01:13:49,800
So just for your information, I wanted to make sure you all knew what we're talking about.

866
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,820
Anybody else?

867
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,380
Okay.

868
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:01,880
Ordnance.

869
01:14:02,180 --> 01:14:02,740
Temporary signs.

870
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:03,400
Staff report.

871
01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:04,500
See you turning Armstrong.

872
01:14:06,340 --> 01:14:06,460
Yeah.

873
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,660
We just brought this back.

874
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:10,900
It was on a couple of meetings ago.

875
01:14:11,660 --> 01:14:15,500
And I think some council members still want the chance to review it.

876
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:25,960
But this just brings the sign code into compliance with various Supreme Court presidents on how we can regulate signs in Douglas.

877
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,260
So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those.

878
01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:33,050
Madam Mayor, I may.

879
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:33,690
Yes.

880
01:14:33,690 --> 01:14:40,150
I reviewed the document that might prepare for us and the only change that I have so far

881
01:14:40,150 --> 01:14:42,590
is in Section 594,

882
01:14:44,650 --> 01:14:45,810
B, or sorry, C.

883
01:14:46,730 --> 01:14:53,450
Just putting in language there that requires signs to be removed within 24 hours following

884
01:14:53,450 --> 01:14:57,990
whatever activity or event or promotion was on that

885
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:59,850
sign so we don't see continuous.

886
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,400
Signs of, like, garage sales all the time, or the political signage all the time, or a house has been sold and that's for the sales thing, sticks up there for the next six months. That's not necessary. So just giving a timeline of removing those signs and appropriate amount of time after the event to promotion as over as only thing I would add. And then furthermore, we will be taking this to the planning commission on Monday, night two for their review and input. So I'll bring that back to you at the next council meeting.

887
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,620
What is the time frame for political science?

888
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,300
I know that there is a time frame that after the election you have so many days,

889
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:42,200
or what is that time frame?

890
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:45,600
Because whatever that time frame, I think it should be consistent with all the other

891
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:45,840
time.

892
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,780
So it was before this, it was within five days after the associated election.

893
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:53,280
So that's how it was written before.

894
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:57,560
But we're time political science into temporary science altogether as one category.

895
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:03,660
So we're not calling out political signs specifically, we're saying all temporary signs have to be

896
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:07,700
regrouped with that amount of time. And if five days is appropriate, then we can use five days.

897
01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:14,490
I just feel like more than 24 hours, because I mean, if you've got, you know,

898
01:16:14,650 --> 01:16:18,370
Canada is there from good rock or wherever they're trying to give them a little bit of time to get it

899
01:16:18,370 --> 01:16:25,390
here, get their signs down in five days. Five days? I'm fine with that. Okay. I think that's

900
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:28,130
That's what I'm up here.

901
01:16:28,150 --> 01:16:28,690
Sounds good.

902
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:29,610
Five days.

903
01:16:32,370 --> 01:16:32,890
Okay.

904
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:34,470
What section does that include?

905
01:16:34,930 --> 01:16:37,230
It's one that I kind of added in.

906
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:42,670
I feel like it would fit well under five, nine, four, see.

907
01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:47,880
If you feel like it should go someplace else, I'm happy to.

908
01:16:48,740 --> 01:16:49,540
It just gets tough.

909
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,380
We can't say political signs are treated differently than any other types of signs

910
01:16:53,380 --> 01:16:56,020
because it becomes a context specific regulation.

911
01:16:57,620 --> 01:17:02,060
What we have in there now is a temporary science can be displayed for no more than 90 days

912
01:17:02,060 --> 01:17:04,280
and we've given calendar year.

913
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,260
And it gets tougher, we say, well, now these are event signs, and they have to come down

914
01:17:09,260 --> 01:17:13,960
and have been so much time on the event being over, because then it starts to bleed in

915
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:20,240
and being a content regulation that a time-maker place regulation.

916
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:27,280
Is there any way in which we can make sure signs are removed in a timely manner?

917
01:17:30,730 --> 01:17:32,510
I was looking for a more present as tough.

918
01:17:34,030 --> 01:17:41,710
I stole some model sign codes that came down after these Supreme Court precedents came out,

919
01:17:41,870 --> 01:17:47,370
and they're very generic because the more specific you get, the more you get into those content

920
01:17:47,370 --> 01:17:49,150
and these regulations which are derivative.

921
01:17:52,030 --> 01:17:56,170
That's why I put the 90 days in there for contemporary science during any calendar year.

922
01:17:56,790 --> 01:18:00,090
I know that's tough if a garage sale size up for 9 days.

923
01:18:00,950 --> 01:18:06,450
But it's hard to differentiate those types of science and not get into that content specific.

924
01:18:07,210 --> 01:18:08,810
The regulation will just prohibit you.

925
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:21,400
It might be a question likely with Clara's suggestion and not working in that premise that if we know

926
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:26,420
how to up to five days after the event is over, whatever the event might be.

927
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:31,520
It's closer if we did something like that if we made it events specific.

928
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:38,560
But then the language says if your sign is related to an event, then we're regulating the

929
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,660
things based on content because it's an event advertising.

930
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,780
It's trying to come up with a word that was all encompassing for all temporary signs.

931
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:55,120
The words that kind of came over the event, activity, promotion, but it wasn't quite.

932
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,640
Coming up with a good generalized word.

933
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:02,920
We can work at it and try to angle it and see what other cities have done.

934
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:08,100
When I saw the model sign code say put out most of them were very short.

935
01:19:09,860 --> 01:19:14,340
And didn't differentiate between the types of signs and how long it could be up.

936
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:19,240
Now, the most people are going to take their brush size down after the brush set, but, you

937
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,300
know, it gets harder to try to enforce that if they don't,

938
01:19:24,980 --> 01:19:26,060
but we can look at some ways

939
01:19:26,060 --> 01:19:28,140
to try to tweak that, but we're going to now in the next time.

940
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:28,980
Okay.

941
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:31,400
Anybody else?

942
01:19:32,580 --> 01:19:33,460
Thank you.

943
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,860
We don't have any public hearings this evening.

944
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,420
We do have a table to item.

945
01:19:37,420 --> 01:19:40,760
It's charter ordinance number 1060, liquor bar, and grill.

946
01:19:42,860 --> 01:19:44,200
We can keep this table,

947
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:49,820
we can have discussions evening if you'd like.

948
01:19:50,900 --> 01:19:56,260
I thought that we are discussion was we were going to look at the

949
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:59,050
second.

950
01:20:00,090 --> 01:20:02,590
I believe the manager has an update on that.

951
01:20:03,550 --> 01:20:13,190
So we have, I believe, is 367 additional folks that we need to add to our population or

952
01:20:13,190 --> 01:20:18,230
20, 20 population in order to qualify for another license under that problem, too.

953
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:27,050
We are currently in the 2019 range of verified additional residents, so that's in process now.

954
01:20:27,230 --> 01:20:30,170
I'm hoping by the next meeting, we will have an answer for you.

955
01:20:30,170 --> 01:20:32,890
And if we ever answer, were you acting with the apartment?

956
01:20:33,850 --> 01:20:36,190
Oh, yes.

957
01:20:38,690 --> 01:20:38,750
Yes.

958
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:39,070
Here we go.

959
01:20:40,030 --> 01:20:43,330
We're working with the generous and the museum.

960
01:20:43,730 --> 01:20:50,130
She's been contacting all the hotels and the sites where people have temporary housing.

961
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:51,670
I don't know if they've tried here.

962
01:20:51,790 --> 01:20:53,030
She's talked yet to all the partners.

963
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:58,330
That's what I'm saying is, just take it some time to get through all of the different folks.

964
01:20:58,330 --> 01:21:01,690
I assume they haven't contacted you yet.

965
01:21:01,930 --> 01:21:02,630
No, they haven't.

966
01:21:02,890 --> 01:21:03,290
Very good.

967
01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:09,080
I'll move on.

968
01:21:09,460 --> 01:21:09,520
Okay.

969
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,460
Council action items 10A.

970
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:17,820
Resolution 2025-22, a resolution adopting and amendment to the guidelines for conduct

971
01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:21,160
of elected officials at the city of Douglas Stafford City during our

972
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:21,540
strong.

973
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:23,460
Thank you Madam Mayor.

974
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:32,180
So we've made some red lines to this following the previous resolution that was

975
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:34,540
One question about the mayor's veto power.

976
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:38,040
The mayor just has a veto power in the reform of the government.

977
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:46,180
The way that works is just if something is passed by council, the mayor does have the option to veto it.

978
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,840
And the rest of the council can override that veto.

979
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:51,860
You need all four votes to do so.

980
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,500
But the mayor also has a line.

981
01:21:55,500 --> 01:22:01,260
I am veto power over the budget, which means she can strike specific appropriations in the budget.

982
01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:07,320
And those can also be overruled by council as well with that same forebote.

983
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:08,740
Threshold.

984
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,960
You know, the only the questions in here, I guess, were,

985
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:18,700
Chained of Command, we kind of talked about earlier in contact with city staff.

986
01:22:19,180 --> 01:22:23,740
You know, city staff or citizens, and they want to come to the city with general complaints.

987
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:26,320
Things like that, I don't think there's a problem with that.

988
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:32,700
The problem becomes is when they start complaining about work duties or things that have

989
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:35,100
employment that are governed by the personnel manual.

990
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:43,920
So, this kind of lays out when it's appropriate to discuss items with staff individually.

991
01:22:45,220 --> 01:22:49,580
And the issue kind of becomes is when council reaches out to staff individually, it can feel

992
01:22:49,580 --> 01:22:52,260
like a directive from that council member.

993
01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:57,440
And that can sometimes be inappropriate because the council acts as a collective body.

994
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:03,180
And if individual council members are reaching out asking for action to be taken on things,

995
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,300
that kind of violates that collective spirit of the manner in which the council should be functioning,

996
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:09,300
essentially.

997
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:16,760
If I might, we do have some directors here this evening, and I'm not going to put anybody on the spot,

998
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:22,140
but it would be really nice to have some feedback from our directors if they felt okay

999
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:26,340
with responding to that, what might just went over?

1000
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:26,840
I'm here.

1001
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,440
Number council?

1002
01:23:29,500 --> 01:23:29,720
I'm here.

1003
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:29,740
I'm here.

1004
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:38,000
I believe that the council in the council may have heard you as a direct question about my

1005
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:38,600
operations.

1006
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,180
I just, I personally felt it should come from a city manager.

1007
01:23:43,060 --> 01:23:44,480
That's my take on it.

1008
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:45,760
Thank you.

1009
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,640
Anyone else?

1010
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,340
Again, I've got to probably kind of question, you know.

1011
01:23:51,820 --> 01:23:54,680
But he kind of directed about the situation with the director.

1012
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,000
Manager.

1013
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:56,740
Thank you.

1014
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:57,340
Chief.

1015
01:23:57,980 --> 01:23:58,700
Madam Mayor Council.

1016
01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:02,000
So I believe it was last week we actually had a round table as the Department

1017
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,000
As it kind of discussed this.

1018
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,720
So there was no direction given as far as what we should have

1019
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,680
shouldn't do just to clarify on that.

1020
01:24:09,820 --> 01:24:11,440
But in front of an organizational standpoint,

1021
01:24:11,620 --> 01:24:13,240
police Department, I've seen firsthand,

1022
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,820
not necessarily the staff contacting Council,

1023
01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:18,480
the Council contacting staff.

1024
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:24,860
staff. As far as, as far as issues of why you did or didn't take any force in the action,

1025
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,140
specifics have to have to happen on this call for service and some confidentiality is

1026
01:24:29,140 --> 01:24:34,760
important to us. So I would make Director Harmargar, I would appreciate those questions

1027
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:40,300
being directed to the city manager, even myself, because a lot of times, you know, we put

1028
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:47,860
out factual data. I try to give Council the city manager factual data based on other opinions

1029
01:24:47,860 --> 01:24:55,060
or French else but on facts and statistical driven data and so the lower echelons are the

1030
01:24:55,060 --> 01:25:00,860
working people, you know, the patrol officer's got to have opinions and it can kind

1031
01:25:00,860 --> 01:25:08,220
of muddy the waters and make the city attorney as it does kind of cloud that fly as far

1032
01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:17,340
as it counts remember acting as a whole body or an individual account to remember as that

1033
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:21,480
I would appreciate the consideration to go directly to receive an answer to the program.

1034
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Thank you.

1035
01:25:24,420 --> 01:25:26,480
You met a mayor. Yes, members council.

1036
01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:33,080
So I just see it as if Council goes to staff directly.

1037
01:25:33,620 --> 01:25:35,680
We have processes in place for a reason.

1038
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,500
We have a lot of internal controls.

1039
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:43,180
We have a lot of systems that are processed in a specific manner for specific reasons.

1040
01:25:43,180 --> 01:25:50,660
If a council member goes to staff directly, again, they do think that that might be a directive

1041
01:25:50,660 --> 01:25:54,220
rather than an option or just a question.

1042
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:59,700
And so it could really impact our internal controls when it impacts our internal controls

1043
01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:03,960
in impacts of our agency and where we sit, so that's.

1044
01:26:04,580 --> 01:26:05,860
Thank you.

1045
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,960
It can be very easy for a simple conversation whether during work hours or after work hours,

1046
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:27,340
with a leader at our community from one of our individual staff members to turn in to a staff member feeling like they've gotten direction when in reality maybe the intent was just to have a simple conversation.

1047
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:34,980
I don't disagree that it's fine that council members and employees speak on different things.

1048
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:41,320
I think it as council members and the leaders of our community, that it's very important that

1049
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,220
you ensure that the staff number doesn't think they're getting direction.

1050
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:50,260
My agree, direction needs to follow theChina Command, it needs to come directly to JD and

1051
01:26:50,260 --> 01:26:52,180
then down through that system.

1052
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,560
I certainly agree with that.

1053
01:26:55,740 --> 01:27:04,960
But if you meet a tractor supply with council members, and it works stuff happens to

1054
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:13,200
I think it's important for both the council member and the individual talking to understand that this is not a directive or

1055
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:18,800
Or any manner of trying to circumvent the the systems that are in place

1056
01:27:19,660 --> 01:27:27,500
Thank you. I admit I'm guilty of that. I talk to Josh all the time. I try to talk in in front of his daughter to buy chickens

1057
01:27:32,530 --> 01:27:33,730
Thank you

1058
01:27:38,110 --> 01:27:39,750
Mr. Armstrong, was there anything else?

1059
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:42,250
Nothing for me unless there's any questions.

1060
01:27:43,710 --> 01:27:46,890
And on this resolution, all we're doing is changing gifts and

1061
01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:49,990
their duties to ethics and changing dates.

1062
01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:50,850
Is that correct?

1063
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:53,250
Everything else is already in place?

1064
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:54,150
I believe so.

1065
01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:56,890
I think there was just a couple of references to administrative

1066
01:27:56,890 --> 01:27:58,710
and certain managers that correct.

1067
01:27:58,930 --> 01:28:00,570
And the president wrote that as well.

1068
01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:02,090
Yes, we need to change that.

1069
01:28:06,260 --> 01:28:08,800
Otherwise, everything's staying exactly the same.

1070
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:10,740
Yes, sir.

1071
01:28:56,700 --> 01:28:57,540
Thank you.

1072
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,980
I want to entertain that motion at table.

1073
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,640
Oh, I'm sorry. Do you have something else?

1074
01:29:03,820 --> 01:29:04,660
I have lots.

1075
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,460
Oh, yes, sir.

1076
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,220
I actually worked for a lot of the employees.

1077
01:29:09,860 --> 01:29:11,520
And we don't discuss this stuff.

1078
01:29:11,540 --> 01:29:14,420
When I'm outside of here, I'm not a council member.

1079
01:29:15,020 --> 01:29:18,100
When I'm at the ER, and I run into an officer,

1080
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,160
and they walk in and say,

1081
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,980
councilman, our speaker, I'm like, nope.

1082
01:29:24,020 --> 01:29:29,960
different half today. We don't discuss these things. Anyway, I have a lot to go over

1083
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:36,840
on here, if we may. Because I have read this document, the other document that went

1084
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:42,380
out through Rules of Procedure Sound Council, Town of Jackson, Wyoming that was put

1085
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:50,800
out. There is what I'm going to call it, page 3. That's where the bottom non-agenda

1086
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:58,020
items. So most of that is covered and for the public underneath the next page which is

1087
01:29:58,020 --> 01:29:58,640
public hearings.

1088
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:16,780
I was doing a designated period of agenda citizens, council members, and staff may bring forth issues. For questions that are not in the meeting, agenda topics should be items requiring action by the city council, study issues for future consideration or question information. Each spiritual will be limited to five minutes.

1089
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:25,280
The majority of that is actually addressed under public hearings, other than there should be a section strictly for the council members to bring things up, but not on the agenda.

1090
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:34,700
But we normally do that towards the end anyway, but since it's in here, it might be something we might want to address.

1091
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,680
I don't know if that whole section just needs to be removed in those

1092
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:46,180
sections.

1093
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:47,960
Monogin, I'm sorry.

1094
01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:49,760
I'm directly four of the council members.

1095
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:52,280
Because you're also addressed on the public hearing.

1096
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,140
That's it.

1097
01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,260
Thank you.

1098
01:31:02,350 --> 01:31:05,590
On the public hearing that says council members will not express opinions,

1099
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:09,690
which I did and I apologize during the public hearing course on the meeting.

1100
01:31:10,410 --> 01:31:13,470
So we need to put an endo make sure that we can ask for clarification.

1101
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,580
So actually we do not have a public hearing tonight.

1102
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,720
That's specifically for example.

1103
01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:24,620
Sorry.

1104
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,120
That's not public comment.

1105
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:26,760
Public comment.

1106
01:31:27,260 --> 01:31:27,700
Yes.

1107
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:28,400
Sorry.

1108
01:31:30,060 --> 01:31:34,300
So maybe that maybe we just changed that and then on agenda items of public hearing.

1109
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:40,260
And then do a separate section for council members for the non agenda items.

1110
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:42,700
okay

1111
01:32:11,180 --> 01:32:14,880
so we've already covered that we've already covered that

1112
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,940
so we've already covered

1113
01:32:21,940 --> 01:32:26,340
most of this so all right that's all I had I guess that's we've already covered the rest of it

1114
01:32:27,540 --> 01:32:32,180
okay so council and weeks this is requesting that we table this until the next meeting

1115
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:39,300
I'll entertain a motion for that matter I moved your table resolution 2025 to 2022

1116
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,660
until the next meeting of the members.

1117
01:32:44,260 --> 01:32:44,560
Thank you.

1118
01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:45,000
Second.

1119
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:46,860
Thank you.

1120
01:32:46,900 --> 01:32:47,820
Thank you for their discussion.

1121
01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:49,360
All in favor.

1122
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:50,280
Signify the saying aye.

1123
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:52,520
Aye.

1124
01:32:53,220 --> 01:32:54,300
Motion carries by zero.

1125
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:55,300
Thank you.

1126
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:57,860
10B.

1127
01:32:57,980 --> 01:32:59,420
Resolution 2025-23.

1128
01:33:00,260 --> 01:33:04,520
Resolution authorizing the reimbursement of cost associated with the construction of the Sheet Mountain.

1129
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:14,280
Number two, well, in the amount of 6,10,838 dollars to the Wyoming Water Development Commission, staff report, water waste water chief operator over Leonard.

1130
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,580
We couldn't make that any longer, could we?

1131
01:33:16,580 --> 01:33:17,560
I'm sorry, guys.

1132
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,400
Thank you, Madam Mayor and Council.

1133
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:31,840
At the last meeting, we had brought up representatives from the Water Development Commission and Western Engineering to talk about the outcomes of the Sheet Mountain L.

1134
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:33,900
Number two, drilling efforts.

1135
01:33:34,780 --> 01:33:48,260
As a result of that, obviously a successful well was drilled, unsuccessfully, it yielded very low quantities of water and the water quality did not need safe drinking water acc standards.

1136
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:54,960
looking at how to manage the outcome of that project.

1137
01:33:55,340 --> 01:34:00,280
It was in staff's test interest that the city maintain ownership of that well.

1138
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:06,560
At least in the interim as a groundwater monitoring point for that groundwater compartment.

1139
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:11,260
And then if funding options do change in the future,

1140
01:34:11,740 --> 01:34:15,260
or if treatment costs were to come down substantially,

1141
01:34:15,260 --> 01:34:19,660
it could potentially be a viable water source for Douglas.

1142
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:25,280
Thank you.

1143
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,420
Thank you.

1144
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,000
I'll entertain a motion.

1145
01:34:30,430 --> 01:34:32,110
Madam Mayor, I'm going to do a war in the bit

1146
01:34:32,110 --> 01:34:33,950
for the water treatment plant.

1147
01:34:34,330 --> 01:34:35,870
I'll back it up very soon.

1148
01:34:35,890 --> 01:34:36,450
I'm on the wrong way.

1149
01:34:38,830 --> 01:34:40,730
Madam Mayor, I'm going to do a few more lessons.

1150
01:34:41,110 --> 01:34:44,070
We're at the position of 2025 that's 23 years presented.

1151
01:34:44,410 --> 01:34:44,710
Thank you.

1152
01:34:44,890 --> 01:34:45,050
Second.

1153
01:34:45,630 --> 01:34:46,550
We'll set it up.

1154
01:34:46,610 --> 01:34:46,830
Thank you.

1155
01:34:47,050 --> 01:34:47,990
Thank you.

1156
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:49,650
any further discussion?

1157
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:52,370
All in favor, signify the saying aye.

1158
01:34:53,290 --> 01:34:53,550
Aye.

1159
01:34:54,170 --> 01:34:55,330
Any opposed in sign?

1160
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:57,330
Motion carries five-year-of.

1161
01:34:57,450 --> 01:34:58,510
Thank you.

1162
01:35:00,550 --> 01:35:01,090
Good award.

1163
01:35:01,350 --> 01:35:03,050
Water treatment plan intake structure,

1164
01:35:03,250 --> 01:35:04,610
slide gate replacement project,

1165
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:05,870
staff report director Harvard.

1166
01:35:06,430 --> 01:35:06,730
Mm-hmm.

1167
01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:07,750
That's a matter of management.

1168
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:09,650
Council, the city, Doug, a solicitor,

1169
01:35:09,830 --> 01:35:11,990
bid for the water treatment plan,

1170
01:35:12,130 --> 01:35:13,370
slide gates project.

1171
01:35:13,890 --> 01:35:17,510
We received two bids at the high of $50,000,

1172
01:35:17,510 --> 01:35:25,390
under $7 from win-coulom construction and a little bit of $34,900 for a wide-deck

1173
01:35:25,390 --> 01:35:27,230
energy services.

1174
01:35:28,450 --> 01:35:33,950
I recommend accepting the bid for a wide-deck energy services in the amount of $34,905

1175
01:35:33,950 --> 01:35:40,410
and furthermore authorize a city manager to sign all social documents under any questions.

1176
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:46,160
Okay, no motion.

1177
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:47,240
Thank you.

1178
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,360
Madam Mayor, I'll move to award the bid for the water treatment plant intake structure

1179
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:58,140
slide gate replacement project to why back in is the service of the LLC, the full amount

1180
01:35:58,140 --> 01:36:04,500
of 34,95 dollars, not provides a city manager to sign all its okay to document.

1181
01:36:04,980 --> 01:36:06,040
Thank you to the second.

1182
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:06,700
Well, second.

1183
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:07,660
Thank you.

1184
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:08,680
Any further discussion?

1185
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:10,340
All in favour?

1186
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:11,100
Signify the sign.

1187
01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:14,970
All in favour?

1188
01:36:16,370 --> 01:36:17,830
Motion carries five to zero.

1189
01:36:18,030 --> 01:36:18,830
Thank you.

1190
01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:20,430
On to our financial record.

1191
01:36:20,430 --> 01:36:23,110
for June 2025, so you have to report your technical.

1192
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:26,410
Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the Council.

1193
01:36:27,210 --> 01:36:33,370
So we're finalized out June of 25, which is our fiscal year, the end of our fiscal year.

1194
01:36:34,250 --> 01:36:40,290
So our fiscal year ended at with cash of 110.6 million dollars.

1195
01:36:40,730 --> 01:36:45,490
We had originally estimated that we would end at 99 million.

1196
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,260
Our expenditures, we came in.

1197
01:36:50,260 --> 01:36:57,880
We had a total of $35.2 million total expenditures for fiscal year, 25.

1198
01:36:58,700 --> 01:37:04,440
We had originally budgeted 60 million and then with some project changes and that we estimated

1199
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:06,520
it to change to 42.4.

1200
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,580
I do know there are some projects that we thought would be completed before the end of June

1201
01:37:11,580 --> 01:37:17,300
that did not get completed, so there will be a little bit, but not a terrible large amount.

1202
01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:18,020
I don't believe.

1203
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:22,220
Our revenue came in at $38 million.

1204
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:28,760
We had budgeted originally $30 million, and we had, during the year, we had changed our

1205
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:33,100
projection to be at $36.6 million, so a little bit higher than that.

1206
01:37:33,140 --> 01:37:37,580
Majority of that is our additional sales tax that we didn't incur last fiscal year.

1207
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:43,780
And for fiscal year 2425, that is the end of my report.

1208
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:45,140
I would answer any questions.

1209
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:50,440
Thank you.

1210
01:37:50,440 --> 01:37:50,820
I'm

1211
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,420
going to do public comments again.

1212
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:02,740
I can certainly read this all over again if you'd like to come forward and say anything again you have five minutes and we certainly

1213
01:38:02,740 --> 01:38:05,580
interchange anyone who would like to.

1214
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,740
On to our city manager report, staff report, city manager comes.

1215
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,000
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1216
01:38:14,140 --> 01:38:21,380
I have a few updates and then a little story I like to share with you all.

1217
01:38:21,380 --> 01:38:25,580
We're going to join you here.

1218
01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:31,920
We did have three alges of occurred between June 10 and July 25.

1219
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:37,560
The first two were, as we are a public voice director,

1220
01:38:37,780 --> 01:38:40,080
looked into all three alges of occurred.

1221
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:45,600
The first two were due to improper locates that were done

1222
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:50,320
by the by-vives location services.

1223
01:38:50,320 --> 01:39:00,620
the third occurred because they drilled in the wrong place, the contract today, so that was the city's contract due to the cost of the third challenge.

1224
01:39:01,580 --> 01:39:10,600
So we did provide that information also, we did provide it to our social media and help us as well.

1225
01:39:11,860 --> 01:39:18,200
In community development, we had long last year going live with our city works this week.

1226
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,160
I can't wait for the department.

1227
01:39:21,740 --> 01:39:26,300
This is the one, if you will recall, this automates building from its contractor licenses.

1228
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:31,260
I can do this with use permits, and then like, so that is moving forward.

1229
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:41,300
On kind of a related note, we did send a note to the folks that are heading up the construction

1230
01:39:41,300 --> 01:39:44,280
of the addition for the extra Wyoming college.

1231
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:52,220
We still have not received their building plans, and we didn't make them alerted them that typically we received them long before they go out for bed

1232
01:39:52,220 --> 01:39:55,160
So they're out for bed already for the project

1233
01:39:55,160 --> 01:40:01,740
So we're hopeful that they'll receive responsive and get those in fairly quickly, so there's not a delay in that project

1234
01:40:02,260 --> 01:40:07,480
Like to welcome Michelle, one more time is pleasure to have her be a part of the organization

1235
01:40:08,380 --> 01:40:23,900
She is already taking a look at our doing an audit of our processes in HR and she also has the HR manual type date draft about ready to go the goal is to send that out tomorrow

1236
01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:24,500
Correct?

1237
01:40:25,340 --> 01:40:25,980
Correct

1238
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:35,780
And then in the police department, one of our CSOs, as we are from the service officers, has stepped down.

1239
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:41,460
And so we are working on the placement currently this is underway for that.

1240
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:50,200
We are moving forward with the sale of the property that we're referring to as capital Hill.

1241
01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:54,620
That was the property we discussed a meeting or two ago.

1242
01:40:54,620 --> 01:40:59,340
It's just taking some time to get the documents drawn up to do it properly and go through a public process.

1243
01:40:59,700 --> 01:41:03,540
Mike has been working with us along that as well.

1244
01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:07,580
So I have an update.

1245
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:14,640
The last thing I wanted to share is also timely with some of the conversations that we're having currently in the community.

1246
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:23,980
This last week, I had the opportunity to attain my 10-min annual training and I went to

1247
01:41:23,980 --> 01:41:29,920
city manager conference with the city manager from the Northwest and we engaged in

1248
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,380
table-top exercises and one of those is called a future exercise.

1249
01:41:33,900 --> 01:41:40,420
Nothing was ever heard of those or not, but the future exercise, what they did was they took

1250
01:41:40,420 --> 01:41:48,500
focused back in time to 2010, they gave us the economic circumstances of the community that we were at,

1251
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,900
and the assigned us all roles. And our job was to play the roles that we were assigned.

1252
01:41:53,840 --> 01:42:00,680
So like I was the police chief for one time as scary as that might be. And then another time I had another role that I played.

1253
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:10,440
And so we had different different sorts of roles that were played that represented different interests and different perspectives in the community.

1254
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:14,480
It was really a fascinating situation to go through.

1255
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:21,840
We had the first scenario that they gave us was that the National Economy was starting to recover.

1256
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,780
We reflect back on 2010 and what things were like then.

1257
01:42:25,780 --> 01:42:33,620
And we were seeing signs of regional growth, but our hypothetical local economy was still kind of stagnant.

1258
01:42:34,460 --> 01:42:40,160
So we were given a couple of options. What we could do and how that would turn out.

1259
01:42:40,700 --> 01:42:45,040
So the group that we had in our table, we had someone was assigned to be the mayor.

1260
01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:49,240
We had a developer from the community. We had a business leader.

1261
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:55,340
we had, someone that was in Vard Millis, we had someone running for city council, and so we had

1262
01:42:55,340 --> 01:43:01,780
these different different scenarios. And so this first question we were asked, well what

1263
01:43:01,780 --> 01:43:08,360
is, you know, that's interest to move the community forward. So everyone voted on the two scenarios

1264
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:14,680
that we were given on which way we wanted to go. We wanted to continue to allow forward development

1265
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:19,360
or if we wish to put a stop-blowing on building

1266
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,700
and take a look at doing a study first.

1267
01:43:23,220 --> 01:43:27,000
So the selection that was done by the group at the time,

1268
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,640
it was a four-to-one vote.

1269
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,640
The group decided to move forward

1270
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,020
with the new subdivisions and property development.

1271
01:43:37,060 --> 01:43:38,560
So then we turned in that decision.

1272
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,260
We were given back the response from there.

1273
01:43:41,260 --> 01:43:45,380
So, we fast forward to 2012 and we're given the results.

1274
01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:48,260
The results of the decision that the group made

1275
01:43:48,260 --> 01:43:51,860
was that we were moving into a boom in our community.

1276
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,860
So, things were going very well.

1277
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:58,300
We were generating extra revenues as a result of that decision.

1278
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:00,680
And the economy team, there was other factors.

1279
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:06,460
And so, then we were faced in 2012 with the decision,

1280
01:44:06,740 --> 01:44:09,740
okay, these extra revenues weren't going to do with them.

1281
01:44:09,740 --> 01:44:16,440
So there was a movement toward putting more into infrastructure and community facilities.

1282
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:23,920
And then there was another option to give tax breaks back to the people who could be doing more development.

1283
01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:27,260
And so our group was very narrowly divided.

1284
01:44:27,260 --> 01:44:29,220
Again, we were all playing the role that we were given.

1285
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:35,260
So I was a police chief and I was making decisions based on what I thought the police might have a look at.

1286
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,160
But we had an environmentallyously group and we had the others that I mentioned as well.

1287
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:46,700
So, we made the narrow decision our group did to do the tax breaks and see if we had

1288
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:47,680
we had more investment.

1289
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:55,300
What wound up happening from that was we, our community, the result was we wound up in a recession.

1290
01:44:55,300 --> 01:44:59,300
The whole thing was a very fascinating...

1291
01:45:00,820 --> 01:45:15,420
Experience. Well, it's so brief, but it's also realistic that it applies to what we're dealing with here, and that was today. With all the issues we had to invert before, and this was just last Thursday that we had this exercise.

1292
01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:21,620
And I think that the takeaway from me anyway is that if you make a community, if you make

1293
01:45:21,620 --> 01:45:28,360
a decision, space the bond, one perspective, one interest, one narrow ideal, you run the

1294
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,640
risk of harming the community in the other areas.

1295
01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:33,880
So for example, water is one of those.

1296
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:40,620
So we all agree, water is number one, everybody has the strategic doing document that we have.

1297
01:45:40,620 --> 01:45:46,240
Water is our number one thing, the Council is an allocated tons of money toward water,

1298
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:46,940
as we should.

1299
01:45:47,300 --> 01:45:49,720
But if we only deal with water, what could be the outcome?

1300
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,500
We have pure abundant water, but we have city facilities

1301
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:56,960
are falling far, we don't have things for people to do and so on.

1302
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,720
So I think, again, the takeaway is we have to deal with all of it.

1303
01:46:00,740 --> 01:46:07,660
We have a complex, we need to deal with complex organization, and our problems are not simple,

1304
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:08,500
they're complex.

1305
01:46:08,500 --> 01:46:15,500
And so our answers have to need to be thoughtful and circumspect.

1306
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,960
And so that's where I think our organization thrives.

1307
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,900
And that's why how mean our system in the place that we do,

1308
01:46:23,380 --> 01:46:27,320
where these things are run through the company of city staff

1309
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,860
and these issues are vetted properly.

1310
01:46:29,980 --> 01:46:31,160
It doesn't mean we always agree.

1311
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,200
Well, she won't.

1312
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,540
But it does mean that hopefully you have well-vetted solutions

1313
01:46:36,540 --> 01:46:38,880
in a broad tune before your consideration.

1314
01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:44,700
I know there's also a feeling sometimes that, oh, I went to Sydney and they're not listening

1315
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:45,140
to me.

1316
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:48,080
I offer my point of view and they're not listening to me.

1317
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:54,060
We listen, but there's also thousands of other voices in the community too that need to

1318
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:55,060
be listened to as well.

1319
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:56,080
These other perspectives.

1320
01:46:57,260 --> 01:47:02,700
And because it's so complex, that's why we go through processes like our one-dimensional

1321
01:47:04,420 --> 01:47:04,900
initiative.

1322
01:47:04,900 --> 01:47:13,360
That's why we go through our conferences and planning, our Douglas blueprint, so that we can take in all of these different pieces of key back.

1323
01:47:13,940 --> 01:47:21,180
We can run it through engineering, and we can make good conscientious decisions as a community.

1324
01:47:21,740 --> 01:47:27,000
As you know, I'm sorry, this is when a little bit longer, and I think it's so relevant to what we're talking about today.

1325
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:32,940
We have wicked issues here, and they're not simple, easy answers to any of it.

1326
01:47:32,940 --> 01:47:38,980
We, you are dealt with, there are scenarios that have happened that you are dealing with today

1327
01:47:38,980 --> 01:47:43,060
that are enough fault of yours, but you're having to deal with them and making the best decisions again.

1328
01:47:43,480 --> 01:47:51,900
But we have so population has grown society's 70, we've gone from 4,400 to where we're well over 6,000 people now

1329
01:47:51,900 --> 01:47:58,680
and seems to be going a little bit more. That's normal. That's what a community that is on otherwise ought to be doing.

1330
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:04,920
We have an economy that burns primarily on the energy which is great and we love our energy for us

1331
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:12,620
But also that everyone knows that that makes this problem to boom and bust and the more we can diversify our economy

1332
01:48:12,620 --> 01:48:18,320
And I know that I'm I'm saying back to what you've talked to me about and what the priorities are

1333
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:22,440
So we have to keep the economy and diversification by in mind

1334
01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:28,400
We've talked at late tonight about water. That's such a high priority. We've got to get that fix and it's not the only thing

1335
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:34,100
We have housing because we know we have a shortage of housing so we have to deal with housing as well

1336
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:40,540
Because otherwise people get boxed down if there's not enough housing then the wages that they make they can't afford to live here

1337
01:48:40,540 --> 01:48:46,140
So another complex issue we also have an environmental factors that sometimes will play role

1338
01:48:46,140 --> 01:48:49,440
We saw that with the with the turbidity in the water

1339
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:54,820
Who would have predicted that that would happen to the water with decent turbid but that kind of thing will happen

1340
01:48:54,820 --> 01:48:58,880
then it will happen again in other ways as well, quality of life.

1341
01:48:59,020 --> 01:49:04,120
If we want to have people live here and retain them and attract them, then we have to have

1342
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:09,280
a good quality of life, which you all are also addressing through our big parts we already

1343
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:14,720
have, and also with investments in the new community center that are starting to have coming

1344
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:15,540
down the road.

1345
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:24,800
So my interval that is that we have so much to be proud of in our communities where we are

1346
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,620
we are absolutely not in a crisis.

1347
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,560
A lot of communities have to deal with conservation.

1348
01:49:31,060 --> 01:49:33,980
We haven't asked anybody to cut back all the showers or drink water.

1349
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,120
This extra, the lawns might be a little browner.

1350
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:42,120
Our parks might be a little browner, but that's a temporary thing.

1351
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:43,680
And we're not in crisis.

1352
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:45,540
And I think we're far from it.

1353
01:49:45,540 --> 01:49:46,800
I think we're a city in motion.

1354
01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:47,480
We've got it.

1355
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,140
We've got a great plan.

1356
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:52,700
I think that this confidence in and takes all these things in consideration.

1357
01:49:52,700 --> 01:50:00,880
And I think if we just focus on one thing, we run the risk of damaging or harming other areas of our community.

1358
01:50:01,660 --> 01:50:05,580
And I'd like to share with you what I think I've shared this before, like my German saying,

1359
01:50:06,020 --> 01:50:09,880
Honestly, I know that for Bolton, which means everything is connected.

1360
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:10,840
Everything is interconnected.

1361
01:50:11,860 --> 01:50:12,420
There are choice.

1362
01:50:12,700 --> 01:50:15,600
We make light touch other things as well.

1363
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:26,860
And if we say grounded facts and we committed to balancing vestments and our vision and keep working in the vision, I think we'll just respond to these challenges.

1364
01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:32,800
But I think we'll set a standard for how communities we grow and adapt and thrive.

1365
01:50:33,420 --> 01:50:34,120
That's my opinion.

1366
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:35,600
Thank you.

1367
01:50:36,620 --> 01:50:37,500
Thank you.

1368
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,220
Council information, comments, questions and concerns.

1369
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:46,820
Yes, sir?

1370
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,920
You brought it up over there and I'm just in my house.

1371
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:53,580
I was contacted earlier about a gag order.

1372
01:50:54,500 --> 01:50:56,200
I would just like to bring that to light.

1373
01:50:58,260 --> 01:50:59,940
I know nothing about it.

1374
01:51:00,140 --> 01:51:05,080
But I was told that the city for a gag order on the employees,

1375
01:51:05,380 --> 01:51:08,220
telling them that they could not talk to city council members.

1376
01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:10,780
Do you have any idea what they're talking about?

1377
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,580
I think we heard from the staff a while ago.

1378
01:51:13,580 --> 01:51:19,860
I felt something with her spirit like it was from the director's talking about follow-in chain

1379
01:51:19,860 --> 01:51:20,420
or command.

1380
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:21,180
Just mind understand.

1381
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:23,600
Okay.

1382
01:51:25,580 --> 01:51:29,210
So, I got some director's here.

1383
01:51:29,530 --> 01:51:30,590
We don't have a gag about it, right?

1384
01:51:33,050 --> 01:51:34,630
Sitting in boys can't talk to council members.

1385
01:51:35,890 --> 01:51:36,650
Just make sure.

1386
01:51:37,110 --> 01:51:39,650
And I don't want to bring up and I missed it in the ordinance.

1387
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:41,990
And it's under resolution.

1388
01:51:43,030 --> 01:51:43,230
Yeah.

1389
01:51:45,730 --> 01:51:51,930
I think the second paragraph needs to be understood quite well by everybody.

1390
01:51:52,990 --> 01:51:58,410
The mayor and the city administrator, which does should be city manager, and it was changed

1391
01:51:58,410 --> 01:52:03,230
in a new resolution that was enabled tonight, is the official spokesperson designated

1392
01:52:03,790 --> 01:52:05,890
to represent the city's position.

1393
01:52:05,890 --> 01:52:14,050
And it's very important to note that under council conduct with the media, the mayor and the city manager,

1394
01:52:14,430 --> 01:52:17,510
are the official sports players who are designated to represent the city position.

1395
01:52:18,370 --> 01:52:23,030
That being said, it also goes on to say individual council members,

1396
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:24,930
it contacted make by the media.

1397
01:52:25,470 --> 01:52:30,330
The council members should be clear about whether their comments represent the official city position,

1398
01:52:30,810 --> 01:52:31,870
where a personal viewpoint.

1399
01:52:31,870 --> 01:52:43,810
So, it doesn't say that we can't talk to the media, what it does say is we have to be very open about what we're representing, whether it be the city's position, was personal viewpoint.

1400
01:52:45,070 --> 01:52:47,830
So, I think that's very important for all of us as council members, no.

1401
01:52:48,670 --> 01:52:58,910
More than likely, since it says the city of the mayor and the city manager, the official Squirtz versions, when we talk to media, whether it be a social media or a newspaper, that is a personal viewpoint.

1402
01:53:00,610 --> 01:53:02,570
in my opinion.

1403
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:07,720
Thank you.

1404
01:53:07,980 --> 01:53:08,400
Thank you.

1405
01:53:08,620 --> 01:53:10,440
You guys have your own.

1406
01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:13,300
Stokesman for police related issues.

1407
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,080
Have a very good meal.

1408
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:16,860
She's here.

1409
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:18,800
Hi.

1410
01:53:20,540 --> 01:53:23,840
Guys, just wanted to make sure we knew that too, because that's...

1411
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:25,240
I thought you had one, so.

1412
01:53:26,900 --> 01:53:27,680
Anybody else?

1413
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:29,480
Okay.

1414
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:31,480
Yes, councilman.

1415
01:53:31,480 --> 01:53:32,240
Of

1416
01:53:46,770 --> 01:53:56,610
course, the, what is your question I believe is the meeting on the 20th for the water to be recorded, so he can see it, or hear it.

1417
01:53:56,770 --> 01:53:58,510
Yeah, I believe that was planned to have that.

1418
01:53:58,690 --> 01:53:59,050
Okay.

1419
01:54:01,710 --> 01:54:02,590
So yes.

1420
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:06,760
Yes.

1421
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:07,460
It's four or five.

1422
01:54:07,480 --> 01:54:09,200
I'll just only hear it.

1423
01:54:10,900 --> 01:54:11,340
Yes.

1424
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:11,720
Yes.

1425
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:12,560
Definitely a quick question.

1426
01:54:12,660 --> 01:54:14,940
Have we got all the notifications out on that, Debbie?

1427
01:54:15,820 --> 01:54:18,380
On the 20th, maybe possible for him?

1428
01:54:18,380 --> 01:54:19,080
Yeah.

1429
01:54:19,540 --> 01:54:20,040
If not, I'll choose you.

1430
01:54:20,220 --> 01:54:21,140
I'm going to be at that please.

1431
01:54:21,260 --> 01:54:22,400
I'm just going to ask that.

1432
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:23,180
Thank you.

1433
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:25,940
Possible form on August 20th at 4 p.m.

1434
01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:28,900
Okay.

1435
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,920
I believe we're at a circle back recap with our staff report city clerk looks here.

1436
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:36,050
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1437
01:54:37,330 --> 01:54:40,530
So we are going to look into traffic on 6th and Irwin streets.

1438
01:54:40,730 --> 01:54:42,710
We're going to address the water questions publicly.

1439
01:54:42,850 --> 01:54:44,690
I did make a list of those.

1440
01:54:45,330 --> 01:54:48,150
We're going to look into a caution program for dumpster screens.

1441
01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:51,270
That temporary sign ordinance is going to be worked on.

1442
01:54:51,730 --> 01:54:57,150
We're going to continue this citizen count for the liquor license and hope to have that number back by next meeting.

1443
01:54:57,930 --> 01:55:04,150
Resolution 2025-22 which was table will be brought back next meeting as well.

1444
01:55:04,410 --> 01:55:07,650
We're going to look into the addition of total pay on the pay steps.

1445
01:55:08,270 --> 01:55:13,150
We're going to record the water meeting on the 20th and also have a possible quorum for that.

1446
01:55:13,870 --> 01:55:16,170
In addition to that, if I may,

1447
01:55:16,170 --> 01:55:20,890
I would like to share some statistics with you regarding our social media.

1448
01:55:21,790 --> 01:55:25,810
It has been absolutely chaos with the social media,

1449
01:55:26,810 --> 01:55:28,190
but I don't know if you can read that.

1450
01:55:28,350 --> 01:55:32,770
We had 321,817 views in the last 28 days.

1451
01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:34,950
We only have 6,000 residents.

1452
01:55:37,210 --> 01:55:37,330
Yeah.

1453
01:55:37,950 --> 01:55:38,870
Are we on TikTok?

1454
01:55:39,130 --> 01:55:39,990
Can we make a money?

1455
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:43,090
No, no more.

1456
01:55:45,210 --> 01:55:54,570
And in addition to that most, we've had some positive reactions to 95 of those, you know, we'll take what we can get.

1457
01:55:55,430 --> 01:56:02,150
And then on the last screen, we had 2,402 interactions, which is up 107% from the previous 28 days.

1458
01:56:02,450 --> 01:56:07,130
And we now have 3,034 total followers that are following us all the time.

1459
01:56:07,770 --> 01:56:12,190
That's pretty good for the city.

1460
01:56:12,510 --> 01:56:18,350
I mean, we're talking half of the city and you count in, you know, the older generation

1461
01:56:18,850 --> 01:56:22,430
and the kids, the whole nine yards that are in her 6,000.

1462
01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:24,710
I'm trading lightly.

1463
01:56:25,690 --> 01:56:26,530
I'm saying good.

1464
01:56:27,250 --> 01:56:28,330
Matt, if I might.

1465
01:56:28,430 --> 01:56:28,770
Absolutely.

1466
01:56:29,070 --> 01:56:31,030
You've done an excellent job.

1467
01:56:31,550 --> 01:56:31,650
Absolutely.

1468
01:56:31,650 --> 01:56:32,050
Thank you.

1469
01:56:32,270 --> 01:56:35,670
I mean, every day I see that you, and I know you're giving it your all.

1470
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:38,710
And I work with you on a weekly basis right now trying to get the word out.

1471
01:56:39,330 --> 01:56:43,270
You've done great with working with the manager and I because I know we are not photogenic at all.

1472
01:56:43,970 --> 01:56:46,310
So thank you for all you've done.

1473
01:56:46,490 --> 01:56:46,770
Thank you.

1474
01:56:46,770 --> 01:56:49,670
Thanks to all staff for everything that you've done.

1475
01:56:49,970 --> 01:56:50,010
Yes.

1476
01:56:50,290 --> 01:56:51,770
Much appreciate for all of us.

1477
01:56:52,130 --> 01:56:53,230
And the same right back to you guys.

1478
01:56:53,590 --> 01:56:56,590
I have utilized several several staff members.

1479
01:56:57,090 --> 01:56:59,750
I need to utilize you and you know the City Manager.

1480
01:57:00,210 --> 01:57:04,690
I appreciate it because I wouldn't be able to think information out there without everybody stepping in.

1481
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:05,210
Thank you.

1482
01:57:05,210 --> 01:57:07,790
I would like to say thank you for reading the comments too

1483
01:57:07,790 --> 01:57:10,570
because I keep putting it out there and you save my butt.

1484
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:12,570
I don't know.

1485
01:57:12,710 --> 01:57:12,950
I don't know.

1486
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:13,390
I don't know.

1487
01:57:16,670 --> 01:57:19,430
Mayor, may I own a circle back, sir?

1488
01:57:19,650 --> 01:57:20,310
Yeah, ask you.

1489
01:57:20,430 --> 01:57:22,770
Please kind of go into a new format all these up.

1490
01:57:22,850 --> 01:57:23,690
You guys like these.

1491
01:57:24,330 --> 01:57:24,790
Thank you.

1492
01:57:26,450 --> 01:57:26,630
Okay.

1493
01:57:26,630 --> 01:57:27,470
We'll keep doing that then.

1494
01:57:27,690 --> 01:57:27,950
Okay.

1495
01:57:28,270 --> 01:57:28,770
Thank you.

1496
01:57:29,450 --> 01:57:30,430
Good people doing good.

1497
01:57:30,430 --> 01:57:30,650
Thanks.

1498
01:57:30,750 --> 01:57:31,850
We do have a few things I think.

1499
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:32,650
Councilman Hirschburg.

1500
01:57:33,070 --> 01:57:36,550
So, one of whom, Ray, shout out to Officer Del Campo.

1501
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:43,290
He has reached out to me every day since the incident Sunday to make sure the baby and I are okay. It means a lot

1502
01:57:43,290 --> 01:57:48,630
On the second one. I just want to give you shout out to the city of Douglas with that crazy one that came through yesterday

1503
01:57:48,630 --> 01:57:52,370
a tree dropped a huge land on sixth street and they were right there

1504
01:57:53,350 --> 01:57:57,610
Maybe we're there right away cleaning it off the street. It's a great job on that

1505
01:57:57,610 --> 01:58:02,190
I got a separate one. There was a lady her vehicle at many March

1506
01:58:03,450 --> 01:58:04,590
What's the call?

1507
01:58:04,770 --> 01:58:06,370
Welcome Doug.

1508
01:58:07,390 --> 01:58:08,590
Cars broke down.

1509
01:58:08,890 --> 01:58:13,470
She asked Chris Holstead if he could jump or he went over there and didn't have his jumper

1510
01:58:13,470 --> 01:58:14,290
cables in the back.

1511
01:58:14,510 --> 01:58:17,250
He reached over to the ambulance who was sitting right next to him.

1512
01:58:17,390 --> 01:58:18,390
He got a jump cable out of that.

1513
01:58:18,770 --> 01:58:19,210
Help, jump state.

1514
01:58:19,270 --> 01:58:23,470
Jump start the lady's vehicle got her started and back on the road, so good job to him as

1515
01:58:23,470 --> 01:58:23,970
well.

1516
01:58:24,070 --> 01:58:24,450
Thank you.

1517
01:58:27,290 --> 01:58:31,450
Your new community service officer, great guy.

1518
01:58:32,270 --> 01:58:37,590
got back the very next day with a complete description of what was going on

1519
01:58:37,590 --> 01:58:43,290
by things we're going to take place. And very polite, tolerated by Alex

1520
01:58:43,290 --> 01:58:48,490
Barkin and the entire time he was over. But great guy, he's real personal.

1521
01:58:49,570 --> 01:58:51,610
He's been awesome. I'll pass that on.

1522
01:58:51,610 --> 01:58:51,810
Okay.

1523
01:58:53,190 --> 01:58:53,310
Okay.

1524
01:58:53,790 --> 01:58:53,930
Okay.

1525
01:58:54,290 --> 01:58:54,770
Okay.

1526
01:58:55,150 --> 01:58:57,970
Now I can tell you.

1527
01:58:57,970 --> 01:58:59,430
I can tell you.

1528
01:59:00,370 --> 01:59:01,610
We're able to take them.

1529
01:59:02,910 --> 01:59:03,710
Councilman, we see.

1530
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:07,070
Do you have anything for good people doing good things?

1531
01:59:07,790 --> 01:59:07,890
No.

1532
01:59:08,410 --> 01:59:08,710
All right.

1533
01:59:09,870 --> 01:59:12,610
And Mary, thank you for drawing all those numbers up.

1534
01:59:12,610 --> 01:59:13,750
I know you did something wrong.

1535
01:59:14,050 --> 01:59:15,110
You did something like.

1536
01:59:15,110 --> 01:59:15,690
You were gone.

1537
01:59:15,950 --> 01:59:17,030
So I went directly to her.

1538
01:59:17,410 --> 01:59:17,610
But.

1539
01:59:20,710 --> 01:59:24,210
I really appreciate you doing that, though.

1540
01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:24,710
Thank you.

1541
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:25,650
Thank you.

1542
01:59:26,050 --> 01:59:27,510
Community update event calendar, please.

1543
01:59:29,250 --> 01:59:29,290
Great.

1544
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:31,570
Now here is a listing of your upcoming events.

1545
01:59:31,930 --> 01:59:35,730
Strawberry Freezer Jam, Congress County Library Douglas, August 11, 16.

1546
01:59:36,530 --> 01:59:39,890
The Wyoming State Fair begins August 12 and ends on the 16th.

1547
01:59:40,050 --> 01:59:41,750
Get out there and have some fun.

1548
01:59:42,250 --> 01:59:45,670
The cowboy corn hole happening at the Wyoming State Fair, August 12, 11am.

1549
01:59:46,530 --> 01:59:50,690
media show watch party happening at Fort Fettermin on August 12th, 7 p.m.

1550
01:59:51,470 --> 01:59:55,050
There's an end of Summer Barbecue at Points West Community Bank happening, of course,

1551
01:59:55,290 --> 01:59:59,510
at Points West Community Bank August 13th, 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.

1552
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,980
The results on removing 9, hosted by Congress County Library Douglas, August 15, 16, Mickey and the Motor Cars happening at Wyoming State Fair, August 15, 7 p.m. The Schmidt Brothers, rocked the Glenn Constra Series, happening at Glenn Rocktown Square, August 15, 7 p.m. The earned in first responder meetup, happening at Flint, August 15, 7 to 9 p.m. The Wyoming State Fair parade happening downtown Douglas, August 16, 10 a.m. The Douglas volunteer fired a

1553
02:00:29,980 --> 02:00:35,140
Department Demo Derby happening, of course, at the State Fairgrounds August 16, 16am.

1554
02:00:35,380 --> 02:00:39,340
David Tyler Band will be playing at the LeBontie on August 16, 7pm.

1555
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:44,700
Going bad at Congress County Library Douglas on August 18, 530 p.m.

1556
02:00:45,180 --> 02:00:50,480
Camp Douglas history walked happening, of course, at Camp Douglas August 20, 545 p.m.

1557
02:00:50,580 --> 02:00:54,660
The farmers market where you'll be sure to find some good food for you, happening at

1558
02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:56,980
Jack Loves Square August 23rd, 9am.

1559
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,860
And finally, Peyton Phillips and Jack Rabbit, the Rock the Glenn Concert series, happening at Glenn

1560
02:01:01,860 --> 02:01:06,780
Rock Town Square, August 23rd, 7 p.m. Have a good night and stay safe.

1561
02:01:10,660 --> 02:01:16,600
Hey, look at the John Millquake. The streets look really good. I know that a highway department

1562
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:23,300
that has no lines in the road but the curves look good. They're ready for the parade. Thank you.

1563
02:01:23,900 --> 02:01:28,160
Sir, any need for executive session? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

1564
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,500
I'll give you five seconds.

1565
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:29,940
Okay.

1566
02:01:30,740 --> 02:01:32,360
We will give that to Council Member Nare.

1567
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:33,760
Any further discussion?

1568
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,040
I'll give you a second if I'm saying aye.

1569
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:40,940
All the same side.

1570
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:41,900
Motion carries five.

1571
02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:44,220
Zero meeting insurance is approximately six o'clock.

1572
02:01:44,300 --> 02:01:44,520
One PM.

1573
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:45,100
Thanks all.