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Welcome everyone to tonight's council
meeting. Uh in this room we have

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different views, different ways of
expression, different emotional

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intensities and different roads that
lead to conclusions. May we combine

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clarity of mind with kindness of heart.
And may we be impartial without bending

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to strong personalities. May we
sacrifice self-interest for the good of

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the whole. And may we do our work with
the love and clarity of vision for the

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benefit of those that we represent. And
I'd like to start by saying that we are

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on the unseated territory of the Quatzen
people. And uh welcome our guest to our

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meeting this evening. And with that,
we'll call the meeting to order. Uh

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introduction of late items. We have one
late item, Miss McWilliam.

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» Thank you, Mayor Staples. We have one
late item to be included as uh number

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9.3. It's the joint utilities board
sewage treatment plan outfall relocation

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project update and UBCM municipalities
funding risk.

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» Excellent. Thank you very much. So,
approval of the agenda as amended to

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include the late item is there remer.
Any discussion? All those in favor?

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Motion carries and adoption of minutes
from June 8th that the minutes of June

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8th be adopted as circulated. Is there a
move and a secondary? Any questions,

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corrections? All those in favor? Motion
carries. And now we will move on to

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delegations. So we have uh Neil Puckish.
Am I saying your name correctly, Neil?

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» Close.
>> Close. Close. Mayor, it's Pukish.

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» Pukish.
>> Okay. Um sorry for

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» for incorrectly.
Uh welcome.

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» Thank you. Uh good evening, mayor and
council. I'm pleased to be here tonight

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to along with Steven Sluida, who's on uh
the television screen here from RC

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Strategies to present the findings of
the regional needs assessment uh review

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for the recreation in the Kawajin Valley
region. And before I pass it over to

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Stephen or Mr. Slooa, I just want to let
you know that this is a pretty big

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document. I think it was about 191
pages. There's lots of information there

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to digest. Um, but what we're doing
right now is we're doing a bit of a road

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show through the Cowin Valley. Uh, this
is our last stop with the municipality

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of Duncan, uh, to give the, you know,
give the information to you and as well

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to seek feedback. So, we've been to the
CBRD board. We've gone to municipality

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of North Kawichin, uh, town of Lady
Smith, uh, Lake Cowin, and now here's

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our final stop. So, at this time, we're
gathering a lot of feedback, and we're

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going to use that feedback to help
inform future decisions for what the

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region needs in terms of recreation
facilities. uh 10, 15, 20 years into the

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into the future. The good thing is is
that right now things are in really good

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shape. Our facilities are well
prescribed and there's a big emphasis

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right now on asset management. You may
have heard about this uh over the last

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several years, but this is something
that we're focusing on. But I'm going to

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hand it over to uh Mr. Sluda and he's
going to walk you through the process

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that we went through and I'm uh here to
uh answer any questions that you may

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have afterwards.
>> Wonderful. Thank you very much and

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thanks for saving the best to last. We
always appreciate that. And uh over to

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you.
>> Great. Thanks uh thanks Neil and and

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members of council. Can you hear me?
Okay. Just want to do a quick sound

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check there.
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» See some nods. Great. I'm just going to
share my screen here.

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And um if someone can give me a thumbs
up just to confirm you can see my my

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screen there, that'd be awesome.
>> Great. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. Um

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yeah. Well, good evening and uh and
really have really excited to have the

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opportunity here to to share a bit of a
summary or synopsis of the recreation

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needs assessment that our team
undertook. So, as Neil mentioned, uh my

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name is Steve Sluda. I'm a partner at RC
Strategies and our firm was um retained

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undertake the work on behalf of the CVRD
and and all the respective partners. Um

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in terms of the the presentation itself,
really there's kind of three components

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here. Uh first, just touching on the
process we went through to develop the

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needs assessment. what were some of
those key inputs? How did we ultimately

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land where we landed? U secondly, we'll
share at a very high level and Neil

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referred to the length of the document.
There's a lot of detail there, so we

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can't get in kind of to the the real
weeds on it, but we'll share a bit of a

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synopsis of some of the recommended
infrastructure strategies or or

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recommendations. And then, um last but
certainly not least, uh answer any

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questions or or comments that you might
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Um so, the study purpose really was kind
of three-fold. um first being and where

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we spend a lot of our time probably
about six months was assessing what

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we've I guess we call the current state
of regional recreation uh in the couch

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valley. So that would be looking at
things like trends what are the the

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changes that have occurred over the last
5 to 10 years. Obviously a lot has

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happened um that impacts recreation and
related activities within the course of

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a decade. Excuse me. Um trying to
understand what some of those gaps and

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high priority needs are. Ultimately, um
the work was was undertaken and intended

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to update the the last regional
recreation strategic plan which was uh

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developed in 2019 and that included a
number of five-year priorities. So

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obviously those priorities have um have
have kind of passed uh given that we're

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in 2026. So this work was necessary
necessary to revisit and update some of

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those priorities and and recommended
focus areas. And then really at the end

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of the day, um the document is there to
be a resource for certainly the CVRD

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board, but others as a kind of a point
of reference to inform decision-m.

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Um it's highlighted in the bottom on the
slide there, and I just wanted to make

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sure that that this was clear. The needs
assessment was looking at regional

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recreation. So looking at the the
regionally significant facilities, kind

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of the regional lens uh was put on
recreation. This work was not intended

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to, you know, tell the respective
municipalities what their local

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non-regional priorities should be. So,
we recognize that all the different uh

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jurisdictions, municipalities have uh
their own kind of planning documents and

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and that was not within the scope of our
work. We're really focused on the

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regionally significant facilities. So,
just wanted to make sure that was clear.

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Uh graphic on the screen on the right
there really just shows the process we

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went through to undertake the needs
assessment. And so as I mentioned spend

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about 6 months doing a fairly deep dive
into the current state of things and and

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what some of those kind of emergent gaps
and needs are through research and

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engagement. Uh then later uh in 2025 and
early into this year kind of made sense

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of all that information that we gathered
and that led to the the needs assessment

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draft and uh a final draft which uh
we're we're presenting here uh to all

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the different uh entities in the region
on the left there. Um that just really

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recaps that kind of bubble graphic there
just recaps the uh the different inputs.

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So we had a number of different
engagement opportunities. So we

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collected feedback from over a thousand
residents through uh a statistically

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representative resident survey and some
other inperson engagement opportunities.

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We engaged with 49 distinct community
organizations and groups. So

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representing a wide array of recreation,
culture and other related interests

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across the region. We did some analysis
of facility utilization to try to

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understand which of facilities are at
capacity, underutilized and and so

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forth. Looked at population and
demographics. Looked at kind of broader

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provincial, regional, national trends.
Uh undertook some spatial analysis and

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mapping to understand maybe where some
of those g those spatial or geographic

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gaps are. And then looked at
benchmarking with some comparator

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regions as well.
So that leads us into uh kind of the

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second part of the presentation here
which is a summary of the

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recommendations and priorities. And what
we wanted to ensure that we did is um

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come up with these priorities and these
recommendations in a really transparent

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datadriven way. So we used a three-step
prioritization framework as the graphic

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illustrates. So the first step in that
framework was to come up with a series

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of criteria uh and then weight those
criteria. So um figuring out what some

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of those things we can score different
potential amenities and projects

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against. So um those criteria, waiting
them and then actually scoring in step

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two all those different uh amenity types
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priorities projects focus areas for for
capital infrastructure investment. And

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then step three um we use that to then
apply uh some practical considerations

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to come up with those strategies
themselves. So sequencing resource

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requirements, land and and so on. So,
uh, on the following slides here, we've

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put the the priorities and and the
strategies into a few different buckets.

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Um, but I just wanted to touch on kind
of the way that we got to those

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different priorities that we'll talk
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So, uh, as mentioned, there's kind of
three slides here that represent three

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buckets of, uh, of infrastructure
strategies, priorities, recommendations.

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Um, Neil touched on this in in his
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the strategies aimed at sustaining aging
infrastructure. Um certainly majority of

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the facilities have have been
wellmaintained and you know through good

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asset management practices and I'm
talking about the regionally significant

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facilities for sure. Um but we're
suggesting in the regional recreation

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needs assessment that that needs to be
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So certainly there's demand and and
desire for a lot of new types of

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facilities, new better as there always
is, but really important to kind of lock

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down and ensure asset management
protects um the the wealth, the hundreds

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of millions of dollars uh in
infrastructure that already exists. So

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that's kind of an overarching
recommendation there. In terms of

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specific focus areas for that
reinvestment, certainly the existing

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arenas that exist across the region, um
the two existing aquatics facilities,

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the two pools, community programming
spaces, and there's a variety of those,

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the sports plex, and then the Kouchin
performing arts center. So, those real

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key uh infrastructure spaces need to
make sure that they're sustained again

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through good asset management practices
to to sustain those service levels and

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ensure they're available for residents
to enjoy moving forward.

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Um the the next bucket of uh strategies
here are looking at some of those bigger

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longer term potential investments or
what we've turned kind of termed kind of

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the next generation of regional
facilities. So uh a few that we just

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wanted to touch on here. The first being
looking at arenas or or ice arena ice.

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Um so the the strategy uh here uh that
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is to look at working towards one to two
new ice sheets by 2040. So about a

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15-year kind of outlook and ideally
doing that as part of a multi-heet

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facility. So there's there's kind of
economies of scale. Um and also just

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programmatic benefits by having multi-
sheet arena facilities. They can share

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mechanical systems. They can support
tournaments better. So we haven't

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exactly said where or how this should
occur. Um but we've kind of opened the

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door for some further uh review of how
that could occur. Is it adding a second

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sheet onto an existing facility? Is it
looking at eventually um scaling down

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operations at an existing facility when
it's at end of life and building a new

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double arena? Um so those approaches
would need to be further refined through

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through subsequent work, but ultimately
looking over the long term to have a

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multi- sheet facility um that delivers
one to two new sheets of ice incremental

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to what already exists. Um second bullet
there. Um so we've suggested doing some

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concept planning and cost validation for
a third regional indoor aquatics

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facility to serve the south. Obviously,
a lot of uh growth is occurring in the

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south part of the regional district. Um
so, not suggesting that that gets built

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and and or approved and built uh in the
near future, but just doing a bit of an

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update to uh some of the previous
planning that's been done in terms of

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what that type of facility could be. Is
it a small pool? Is it a medium pool?

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What's the cost to both build and
operate that? So, that's a strategy

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recommended around aquatics. Um third
point there um looking at options for a

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smaller scale performing arts venue um
to complement the the current one. Um

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the current facility is obviously a
great facility but it's quite large and

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it's not really well suited to u
providing kind of basic community

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program space uh or performing arts
space for some of those smaller

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functions dance groups community theater
and so on. So we've identified um as a

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strategy to look at options um for that
space and that space being a priority.

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Um and then lastly, you know, as or if
some of these majunities

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to meet other needs that we've
identified through the recreation needs

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assessment. So a few of those space
needs that we've flagged as being

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warranting further consideration is
gymnasiums, indoor walking tracks, and

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fitness spaces. So, you know, as new
arenas or a new pool uh gets considered

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and potentially developed, looking at
opportunities to kind of tack on or tag

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on some of these other amenities that
are part of the last bullet there on the

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screen.
And then the last bucket here um is just

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some additional strategies um more
focused on kind of trends monitoring and

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further validating needs moving forward.
So the previous slides kind of uh

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identify strategies around um needs that
have been kind of validated or amenities

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that are are sort of validated as
priorities moving forward. There's a few

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other facility types that require a
little bit more exploration. Um the

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first bullet there refers to looking at
pickle ball um and undertaking either a

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feasibility study or developing a
regional pickle ball strategy to explore

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kind of a major regionally serving
pickle ball site. So something that

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could um kind of fulfill that need
across the region and you know through

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that planning work identify you know is
pickle ball even something that we want

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to include in the regional cadre of of
regionally significant facilities or is

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it best left to the individual
communities to provide. Um so that that

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planning work would kind of answer that
question and also sort of cost out or

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potentially validate the broader need
for kind of that major you know 12 16 30

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court size facility that could be kind
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Um the second point there um Couchin
Sportslex. So there's a number of

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investments that we've suggested warrant
some further consideration. Um, one

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would be potentially covering the
existing sports blocks there to get more

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full season use out of that and and
potentially meet some of the needs for

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for dry floor space. Uh, and then also
looking at improvements to the the

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natural surface infield um that is uh
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certainly be replaced, but there's
opportunity to to squeeze a little bit

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more usage out of that natural surface
field as well um through some potential

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improvements. Things like improving the
surface, drainage, um lighting it

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potentially as well. So um these are
ultimately a few things that require a

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bit more review, a bit more exploration.
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to kind of bring some emphasis to it
overall uh just improving data

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collection man data collection and
management approaches across the region.

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So when this work's done again in
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even more data to draw from um
particularly with things around

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spontaneous or casual use um things that
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always a chance to have more data to
make more informed decisions. So, we

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just wanted to highlight that as well
and appreciate the time and and

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listening through that and and happy to
take any uh comments or questions that

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you might have.
>> Excellent. Thank you so much for that.

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Are there any questions from council or
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No, I see no hand raised. Thank you for
answering all of our questions about

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what the future might need. I Yeah, the
two ice sheets. Is there would those be

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in South Couch? I you mentioned that not
necessarily, but would does that kind of

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lean towards making the most sense?
>> Yeah, through the mayor. Yeah, great

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question. Um, we we haven't specified
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for those. We we but we kind of looked
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there as well. So, that would be
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reviewed in terms of kind of where and
how um we just kind of looked at it

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broadly as as the need for that many
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Excellent. Thanks. And I appreciate the
pickle ball conversation. I know that

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that brings out more people to council
meetings than almost anything else. So,

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» no doubt. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Thanks very much. All right. I

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see.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank Thanks very much for your report
and for the work that you're doing and

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there's no questions. So, we will move
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And we are over to you, Mr. Diverti.
>> Thank you, Mayor Staples.

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Uh just an update. Uh the Coronation
Avenue bike lanes still just a few

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deficiencies left to be addressed. The
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have been installed at Coronation and
Era and there is now also a pedestrian

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crosswalk ahead sign up at the top of
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complete streets progress uh complete
streets project sorry is progressing and

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the speed reader board has been
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the concerns around uh speeding through
that detour. RCMP have also been up to

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Alley Street where they have issued
another number of fines and RCMP tell us

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that they'll they'll be attending again
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detour to try to keep those speeds down.
We do have the potential to add some

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other traffic calming measures as well.
The couchway traffic signals a good

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update there. The new timing signals by
Ray have been approved by the traffic

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engineer and in the coming weeks we'll
be implementing those. The lights will

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then finally after many many years
utilize the actual traffic loops and and

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decrease time allocated to a particular
leg if that of the intersection when

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that traffic is actually light for that
leg. So uh no longer would you see say a

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25-second uh green light when there's
only two cars going through. So that

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should improve traffic through through
there and we'll obviously watch as we've

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not had we've had a few hiccups as we've
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hopefully this one goes w without
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update on the 261 263 Third Street
project. As council is aware, you

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approved a rear parcel line setback
variance on June 8th. So that's uh and

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that's as because the applicant has
revived their revised their proposal now

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seeking approval for a five-story 17
unit uh residential building which was

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intended to be a strata. And so as a
result of that, they no longer require a

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zoning by amendment. So the next step
for them is to uh revise their

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development permit application drawings
and resubmit those to city staff for

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review and consideration of approval.
And lastly, the 2026 property tax

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deadlines uh approaching very quickly.
That deadline is coming up on June 2nd.

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So we need to get everyone to get their
property tax notices uh paid up and as

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well uh if you have a home or grant need
to get that uh signed off on for the

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province as well. Any questions, please
contact city hall at 7466126 or just

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email taxes duncan.ca.
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» Why thank you. Are there any questions
for Mr. Dvert about his report?

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Councelor Newington, go ahead.

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» 50 Coronation.
I had an opportunity to drive past that

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location and with the unit that is
planned to go in there. Is there going

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to be enough parking
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» Yeah, at this point we don't have a lot
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but uh I believe an underground parkade
was was intended.

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» Thank you. Any other questions for Mr.
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Seeing none, uh, that council receive
the June 2 or 20 22nd 2026 report of the

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chief administrative officer for
information only. There's a mover and a

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seconder. All those in favor? Motion
carries. Thank you very much for your

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report tonight. We'll move to invite
Miss Hodins up for the accessibility

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plan.

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Thank you, Mayor Staples. So, this
report presents the 2026 accessibility

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plan. Uh, under the Accessible BC Act,
the city is required to review and

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update its plan at least once every
three years, and the city adopted its

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first accessibility plan in July of
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Um, the city's accessibility advisory
committee reviewed progress on the 2023

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plan last year and made additional
recommendations at that time to improve

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accessibility of city services. A draft
of this 2026 plan was presented to the

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committee on May 4th of this year which
in included those recommendations and at

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that time the committee made some
further recommendations which have now

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been incorporated into the plan before
you. Um so and one of the key items that

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the committee raised um at the last
meeting was to include our accessibility

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for businesses brochure in the uh
business license notices annually. So

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that's something that's been
incorporated that's new from the last

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plan. So, this plan reports on
accessibility improvements over the past

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three years and sets a list of actions
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in 2029. Thank you.
>> Excellent. Thank you very much. Are

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there questions for Miss Hodins about
the plan at all? Comments? Council,

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anyone, would you like to say anything
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» Well, I just wanted to thank Miss
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with the committee on this. And the
other thing is that we are going to do

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be doing a walkabout through the city to
identify any issues that um the city can

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manage and bring up to date. So um we're
probably going to do that in July, I

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would think. And but once again, thank
you so much for all your help.

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Thank you. Will you invite council to
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the
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» Wonderful. Excellent. Thank you. Uh so
that council adopt the 2026

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accessibility plan as reviewed and
amended by the accessibility advisory

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committee on May 4th, 2026. A mover and
a seconder for that motion. Any further

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discussion? All those in favor? Motion
carries. And again, yes. Thank you very

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much for all your work on that, Miss
Hogins. And we're going to move over to

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the temporary use permit application for
610 Trunk Road, otherwise known as the

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village. And we are going to welcome Mr.
Young up to the microphone.

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Thank you, Mayor Staples. This is a
temporary use permit application for 610

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Trunk Road.

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The purpose of the temporary use permit
is is to authorize the village

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supportive housing project um that
exists on the site now to continue for

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an additional three-year term from
December 31st of this year to December

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31st of 2029. And the village uh
supports up to 40 unsheltered people and

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up to 40 modular sleeping units.

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In terms of a a brief history, so the
temporary use permit was first

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authorized
uh by council in December of 2021 uh

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with the uses beginning in in January
2022. The site has been in operation

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since that time. Uh the current
temporary use permit expires at the end

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of this year.
Uh the proposed uh new TUP would which

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would be the fourth temporary use permit
for the site would authorize the uses

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for an additional three-year term.
Uh the couch and housing association was

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the original applicant for for the
village site uh with Lookout Housing and

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Health Society as the operator and
Lookout is still the operator of the

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site today. Um, one thing that's changed
is that uh rather than CHA or Lookout

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being the applicant under previous TUPs,
BC Housing is now the applicant for the

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new TUP and the the extension is
proposed to be funded under the homeless

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encampment action response temporary
housing or hearth program

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uh with Lookout continuing as the
operator.

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The site is zoned high density
residential. That's the brown color. Uh

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the pink areas are the highway corridor
commercial zoning to the west. And then

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uh to the east is medium density
residential zoning. The air photo on the

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right you can see the the pods. Uh this
is a relatively recent air photo. So you

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can see the the site isn't currently in
operation. It's outlined in yellow.

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few site photos from from Trunk Road
back towards the site. It's uh

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surrounded by a security or or safety
fence with a a netting material.

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This is the entry way to the site.

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Uh this is from the sidewalk along Trunk
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This is the the parking lot on the
commercial properties behind the

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village.
And just another another image. So the

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the grass area are properties um um
single family residential properties

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zoned highway quarter commercial that
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Uh the proposal is to revitalize the
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which includes renovating and replacing
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um potentially adding an indoor amenity
space for the residents,

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a new fenced perimeter. So, uh my
understanding is is um the uh metal

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safety fence with that fabric material
would be replaced with a more durable uh

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fence around the perimeter of the site
as well as additional lighting and

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cameras for site security.
Um, of note, the previous TUPS included

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a commitment for broader neighborhood
walks by lookout staff and peer-to-peer

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outreach. Um, unfortunately,
uh, the Hearth program does not fund

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neighborhood security or security
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the the temporary use permit and we'll
talk about that a little bit more on the

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next slide, but the temporary use permit
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of commitment which which includes um a
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but again unfortunately does not include
um neighborhood security

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as part of the application. Uh staff
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Um, and I just wanted to to read a brief
summary. This is my summary of of the

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information that was provided by the
RCMP in response to this application.

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Uh, so since its opening in 2022, the
RCMP has seen an increase in call

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volumes within a oneb block vicinity of
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2025.
With the primary issues in the area

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being unwanted persons, mental health
calls, bylaw issues, assaults, and

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missing persons. 610 Shrunk Road, the
subject property is the primary call

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generator in the area, but the number of
calls at the site has generally remained

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stable since 2022, since the site's
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except for a spike for call uh in 2025.

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Um so based on the feedback from
uh from the RCMP and uh you know based

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on our observation that the increase in
calls for service seems to coincide with

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a reduced presence in the broader
neighborhood staff feel that those

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neighborhood and peer-to-peer walks um
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the village.

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Um as the long-term plans for the
property have not yet been determined.

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um staff are supportive of the new TUP
subject to adding neighborhood security

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checks as an as as a condition of the
TUP.

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Now, the staff recommendation is that
council amend the temporary use permit

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for 610 trunk road by adding the
following condition. The site operator

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must conduct neighborhood security
checks within a 60 meter radius of the

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land with the nature and frequency of
the security checks to be determined in

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consultation with the city's bylaw
compliance department and approved by

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the city's chief administrative officer
and that council issue the temp permit

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as amended.

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» Thank you. Are there questions for Mr.
Young at this time? Council

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Newington,
>> is there somebody here from Lookout that

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is going to speak to this? Okay. And um
what about BC Housing?

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» BC.
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» Okay. Yeah. It's just um I feel that um
I and probably a lot of the neighbors

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need some sort of guarantee
um that the patrols are going to be

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done. this I mean this was one of the
things that we said right from the very

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beginning that needed to be done in the
area and it was done and it improved the

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area. Um there was garbage cleaned up. I
had people that lived in the area coming

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to me and saying it's never been as
clean as what it is since they moved in.

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So it's wonderful. Um but it seems to
have fallen kind of downward in the last

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little while. And before I can support
this, I would like to have some

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guarantees from both BC Housing and from
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be done regularly daily in the evening
when people are trying to settle in.

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Thank you.
>> Anyone else from council?

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Seeing no other questions, did you have
something? Councelor Duncan, go ahead.

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» Thank you. uh your worship. Um I live
within about 200 meters of the facility.

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Um quite often when I'm driving by, if I
see people there, I contact our CEO. Um

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if I drive by a couple of times and
they're still there after half an hour

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or so, then I get concerned. I'm living
in the area. I recognize that in

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probably 90% of the cases, these people
don't live in the village and it's about

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moving them on. uh we you know we've set
up a a facility there so that we can

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provide shelter for unhoused people uh
you know it's time for the I think for

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the police to start doing something more
and I think that uh you know as

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councelor Newington said at the
beginning it was great I actually had

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people come up to me and apologize uh
after you know arguing with us here in

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the meetings about giving the initial
first permit so uh but I have noticed as

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someone that lives very close by that
there seems to be more people hanging

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around. So that I think requires uh uh
more frequent uh patrols.

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» Thank you. Anyone else?
All right. Pardon me.

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Okay. Um so the next up
>> Oh, sorry. I did not see that cow or

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,280
sorry, Mr. Young. Go ahead.
>> Thank you, Mayor Staples. I should have

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00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,720
mentioned this before, so I'm happy to
answer any questions the council has on

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the technical aspects of the TU, but BC
Housing and Lookout are here and may

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wish to to speak to their proposal as
well.

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00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:54,000
» Excellent. Thank you. So, next up I have
um Naomi Brunmeer, is that correct? And

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00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Jennifer Fox, both from BC Housing.
And then following that is um uh Shane

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00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,400
Williams from Lookout. So, we'll have an
opportunity to ask questions of BC

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00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,320
Housing first, though. So, welcome.
>> H welcome. Uh, thank you so much for

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having me. I'm uh somewhat new to the
role of regional director for Vancouver

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00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:13,680
Island and I've uh really enjoyed
working collaboratively with your staff

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00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,920
uh and getting to know your community.
Uh and uh I want to congratulate you on

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00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:24,240
your trailblazing with the village. Uh I
can tell you the envy of many other

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00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,680
communities around the tiny village
concept and uh I just wanted to

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00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:33,839
congratulate you on taking that brave
initiative and that step. What the

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00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:39,119
temporary use permit extension is is um
offering is a renewal of the entire

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00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:44,079
asset. So you may know that um BC
housing uh only provided operating

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00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:48,720
funding to the first phase of the um the
village. Uh the units were already

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created and donated by the cow and
housing association.

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00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:59,119
um they've uh maybe uh had some wear and
tear over the last uh several years and

440
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:03,839
uh when we did a site tour, we felt that
it was time for us to renew um the

441
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:08,880
village and so our proposal is actually
to renew um the entire village. Uh we

442
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,040
wanted to keep it open to say renovate
or or renew. Uh but based on our

443
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,760
findings, we feel that um it's just best
for us to start with a clean slate and

444
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:21,760
to actually uh renew each of the 34
units knowing we have that expansion

445
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:26,160
room under the temporary use permit up
to 40 uh which could be an ongoing

446
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:29,920
conversation. And so we wanted to make
sure um that BC Housing was the

447
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,839
applicant to the temporary use permit.
We wanted to have a relationship

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:37,599
directly um with the city of Duncan as
opposed to through our operator. And so

449
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:42,880
that's why there's been a shift. Uh, and
that's also um the content of the letter

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00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:47,280
of commitment that um Kyle spoke to is
is talking about our intentions. So,

451
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,320
we're the funer and we have expectations
of our operator. And so, that's how we

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:55,040
structured it this time is to make sure
that we have a government-togovernment

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00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:01,359
relationship. So, we've um started the
process of the procurement for the

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00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:05,760
modulars to update the site. Um there is
approval in hand for funding both from a

455
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,240
capital and operating side. And so
that's why we need this necessary step

456
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:15,760
to do that that investment is to extend
that temporary use permit as it was

457
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:20,960
stated by Kyle uh PRC. So that's the BC
housing landowning arm. We own the site

458
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:24,240
uh and we currently um don't have have
uh a concrete plan for what that

459
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,240
redevelopment looks like and we feel
that this model has been successful in

460
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:33,359
this community and that we wanted to
continue to um house folks in this this

461
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:39,280
model and in this manner at this
location. Uh we have since um opened the

462
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:46,160
uh White Road supportive housing
facility uh also operated uh by the same

463
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:51,200
team and uh have been seeing moveins and
tenanting uh increase uh in the last few

464
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:54,240
weeks and are intending to definitely
create a positive flow from the village

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for those people who would like to move
on. So trying to create a broad range of

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00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,640
housing options in your community. Um
I'm also joined by so I'm on the

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00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,920
development side. um I do the building
and the construction and I pass the keys

468
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:11,200
over to my lovely colleague um Jen Fox
who's the regional operations manager.

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,640
So I'm going to pass it to her to speak
more about the operating model and what

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,160
we can and can't make commitments around
around the hearth funding. Um and then I

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00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:22,560
know that Shane is here as well. He's
the CEO of Lookout um who can speak um

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00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,400
from an operations perspective as the on
the ground folks and of course you

473
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:29,839
probably know better than I do um your
local team here from Lookout. Lee and

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Elliot.
>> Thank you. And I I do believe the White

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Road site is not operated by a lookout.
It's operated

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» connective.
>> Yeah, connective. That's okay.

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00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,440
» Thank you for the correction. Hi
everybody. I am still the regional

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director of Vancouver Island region uh
for BC Housing, not the regional office

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00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:49,040
manager, but thanks Naomi. Uh thank you
everybody for the opportunity to be here

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00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:53,599
tonight and have this conversation about
uh T renewal for the village. Uh we're

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,520
joined by Shane Williams, who's the CEO
of Lookout, who will provide uh more

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00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:01,280
information and context with respect to
the boots on the ground work that's

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00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:07,440
happening. But I just wanted to touch on
the uh draft letter of commitment. It's

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00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:12,640
state's intentions by BC Housing to work
with the city to partner to continue to

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operate the village. Uh the province is
providing the funding through the

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homeless encampment action response
temporary housing fund. And that funding

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00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:24,720
allows for a certain staffing level. It
allows for the meals and it allows for

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00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:29,359
other services to be provided. It does
not provide funding for neighborhood

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00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:34,720
security. So that's not part of the
program. However, Lookout operates a

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00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:39,280
peer program where they partner with
their tenants who are interested in

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00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:43,680
doing volunteer work for an honorarium
to have that site cleanup for a

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00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,599
neighborhood um being a good neighbor.
And so I'll turn that over to you,

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00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:53,599
Shane.
>> Thank you. Uh welcome Mr. Williams.

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00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:57,599
» Thank you your worship and thank you to
my BC Housing colleagues for the intro

495
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,680
and uh and setting the stage. Uh and
thank you m council for uh hearing us

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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:07,680
out on this and considering uh the
temporary use permit extension. Um just

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00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:11,040
a couple of things. Um uh you know first
and foremost uh the province

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:15,280
reinvestment in this project really
speaks to the success and the fragility

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:20,640
of the people at the at the site that
are getting good ongoing support um from

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00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:26,160
our local team and the staff that we
employ uh to to do this service on a

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:30,480
day-to-day basis. It's true um that uh
in the last year we have had some

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00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:36,960
difficulty uh with the perimeter walks
um largely to do with a union grievance

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00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:41,760
um that um uh uh that was uh brought
forth by one of our staff members um who

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00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:45,680
were was participating in the walks on a
regular basis and noted that it was

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:51,359
outside of their current job um job
description. uh and uh having people

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00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:57,440
doing the checks uh that the way the way
that they were um was actually uh taking

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00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:01,040
away supports from the site um uh and
taking them off site. So that was

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00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:06,000
causing some duress and some some some
challenge for some of the staff uh at

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00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:10,640
the at the job site itself. I can say
quite a bit about uh this application uh

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00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:16,640
but from the BC housing perspective uh
the renewal of the units uh the indoor

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00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:21,839
amenity um fencing lighting cameras all
speak to security all speak to uh staff

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00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:28,400
capability and function uh will which
will go much higher as a result of of

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00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:33,040
these um um um really great supports. um
the peer program that Jen was talking

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00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:38,640
about. Um there is a lot of interest um
and and you know we're looking at trying

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00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:44,640
to expand that to uh to um um bring the
neighborhood um um back to a spot where

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00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:49,200
they be clear support. Uh you know much
of the ongoing operational challenges at

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00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:53,440
the site are a little bit outside of the
scope of what Lookout can do um um you

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00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:58,079
know through the village operations
alone. um you know you've seen uh uh a

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00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,560
little bit of a different approach to
civic uh camps um and and and

520
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,319
interventions on those camps which is
displaced people I think in the

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:11,760
community uh a little bit differently
than before. Uh and uh you've also seen

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00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:16,720
um an a different approach um from
Kouchin tribes on the indigenous uh

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00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:20,800
folks that may be struggling on reserve
uh and them no longer being on reserve

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00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:24,960
has actually put a lot of lot more
pressure I think on all of the

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00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:30,319
operations of the various uh um
nonprofits in in the community. Um and

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00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:35,280
we're hopeful that you know White Road
um as it's tened it up um and other

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00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:41,119
amenities and and and future BC housing
projects and potentially um you know the

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00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:48,240
uh uh uh uh this project reaching its
its 40 um um uh uh occupancy and um uh

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00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,760
and a renewal of the of the temporary
use permit. We are we are we are

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00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:57,359
anticipating that we're going to see
some some some um um uh return to the

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00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,760
the trust that the organization and and
that the tenants of the village had

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00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:08,079
earned from the from the greater uh
community uh uh area.

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00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:13,760
Um I appreciate the council I think was
councelor to Tom that talked a little

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00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:18,960
bit about the police role in um um uh
the congregation in front of the

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00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:25,119
village. Um it is really hard for um uh
you know a staff member uh that has very

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00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:28,960
little leverage um very little um uh
control over somebody saying I'm not

537
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:33,359
moving and you can't make me move and
there's nothing that you can do about

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00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,160
that. Um there's really not a lot more
our team or that can be expected of our

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00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:42,240
team. Um
calls have increased at the site because

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00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:47,760
we we're calling for help and people
aren't moving along when prompted. Uh

541
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:52,160
and so that can cause um you know this
notion that it's there's more unsafety

542
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:57,200
in the community um when really we're
just trying to um live up to uh the

543
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:03,119
expectation of the community which is to
try to bring down the congregation of

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00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:08,240
people outside the site. Um so so that I
think has put a little bit more um maybe

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00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:14,079
duress on our on our policing partners
um as does uh the missing persons. And

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00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:19,680
so you noted in in the report from staff
that the missing person's uh data uh um

547
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,480
was was noted as as as part of the
police calls. Um that that's something

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00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:30,240
that our team would regularly report a
missing person's uh if if they haven't

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00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:36,640
if if if a tenant of the village hadn't
been at um um their uh uh pod in the

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00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:41,680
last 24 hours um we get concerned about
them. uh they are vulnerable um in some

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00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:45,200
cases live al alternative lifestyles.
It's important that we're flagging that

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00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:49,520
this person is missing and that we need
to reconnect with them. So we will use

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00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,359
our local police so that you know the
police who often know some of the folks

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00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:58,000
that that live at the village. Um we'll
keep an eye out for them uh and that we

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00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:03,520
together can make sure that that
individual safe in our community. Uh

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00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:08,319
again, this this can lead to inflated um
um data from from local RCMP and other

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00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:12,880
policing across the province, and we've
noted this in our other other projects.

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00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Uh and just something that I think
council needs to be um uh mindful of or

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00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:24,880
at least understand uh um before um you
know uh uh casting a vote in in the TUP.

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00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Um I think I've addressed uh questions
so far, but I'm open to anything else

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00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:34,800
people might have.
Thank you. Are there questions right now

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00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:37,760
for either Mr. Williams or Fox?
Councelor Caps, go ahead.

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00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,960
» Thank you very much and thank you for
coming tonight. I'm really pleased to

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00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,960
hear about this like really tangible
investment like really it sounds like

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00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,640
really understanding and appreciating
how important this is. And so so to have

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00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,319
that investment in the renewal is is
really exciting. I' I've been a huge

567
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,440
supporter of this project from the very
beginning. And so it's yeah, I'm just

568
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,800
I'm grateful that you're here tonight.
Um, I'm just cur I just had a a couple

569
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,720
of questions and I'm not sure exactly
who it would be for, but in I'm just

570
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,800
reading through the letter here and when
it says um ensuring the housing operator

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00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,240
conducts perimeter checks between 7:00
a.m. and 7:00 p.m. to support community

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00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,400
safety, monitoring, and cleanliness in
their surrounding neighborhood, what

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00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:18,800
exactly would you say does a perimeter
check involve? And where does it take

574
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,319
place? Is it on the property only? Is it
just outside? How far? And then I have a

575
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:27,599
couple other follow-ups after. Thank
you.

576
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:33,280
through the chair. Um what we are able
to offer is uh in partnership with

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00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Lookout, we are exploring additional FTE
resources. So Shane spoke to some of the

578
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,960
um limitations through the collective
agreement and so looking at having

579
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:48,000
another position that is responsible for
providing leadership for the pre peer uh

580
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:51,839
peer organization that comes to do those
patrols. There's also the opportunity

581
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:57,040
that we've been in discussion about with
connective as well as with uh Squamo

582
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,880
operations about some kind of larger
peer group that could be doing this

583
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:06,800
together. In terms of what we can expect
from the perimeter checks is is really

584
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:10,000
about a few things. First, it's making
sure that we're not handing out

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00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:14,000
resources to people who don't live at
the village. So, discouing discouraging

586
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,240
people from coming. It's looking at a
guest policy to prevent foot traffic

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00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,319
from coming in and out of the current
village. We're also looking at

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00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:27,200
repositioning the front gate area. So
that's that um staffed booth would move

589
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:31,280
forward where the entrance is. We'd have
the new fence and more importantly, we

590
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:35,359
would be working together with Lookout
to have more honorarium funding to be

591
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:39,839
able to provide through that volunteer
work to discourage people from

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00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:44,160
congregating. And so to Shane's point,
Lookout doesn't have the ability to

593
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:47,280
enforce uh make people leave the
sidewalk that is technically city

594
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,920
property. However, there's an
opportunity to share resources. Hey, you

595
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,040
can find something over here. You could
maybe get a sandwich over here or

596
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:59,520
something like that to redirect people
to other resources within community and

597
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:03,319
discourage that congregating.
Those are just a few things.

598
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:11,119
» Thank you. Thanks. I really appreciate
that. And I do really um I appreciate

599
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:14,960
the emphasis as well on the the the
peer-to-peer interaction. I think these

600
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:20,480
relationships are are really important.
I think helping people connect with

601
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:26,079
residents and and and so I I I really
appreciate that aspect of it. I'm

602
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:29,359
curious whether any other
similar projects or any projects through

603
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,680
this funding or similar funding through
BC housing. Have any in other

604
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:38,800
communities found any ways to in
addition to these fantastic, you know,

605
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:43,119
peer-to-peer initiatives? Um, have there
been any other, you know, creative

606
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:47,599
solutions to
get around this? There's no funding for,

607
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,480
you know, security. There's no funding
for for things in the neighborhood. I

608
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,680
understand in in certain cases,
absolutely. there's union restrictions,

609
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:57,839
but have there been for any other
projects, have there been any other

610
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:02,640
creative ways that that has been able to
be addressed? Because I think I'm I'm

611
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,200
hearing from my colleagues that that's
something that's quite important is to

612
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:09,200
just get a commitment at this stage in
the TUP. And I understand why, you know,

613
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:12,720
for a number of reasons, not just for
the residents in the neighborhood, but

614
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,559
also maintaining that positive
relationship in the community. I I I

615
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,160
really worry sometimes when you know
over the past few years seeing instances

616
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:25,440
of violence against unhoused people the
the sort of discrimination and and you

617
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:30,880
know I think having a a positive
relationship and a and a positive idea

618
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,920
of uh of the of the area of the facility
is really important and for the safety

619
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,280
as well because what yeah again like
what we're talking about is it's not

620
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:41,680
you're not able as as staff working on
the site at the facility to control

621
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:46,000
people who are outside but nearby due to
the nature right so how Can we look

622
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:49,839
outside of that immediate staff who's
there trying to provide those really

623
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,599
critical services to people that can
look out for the safety as well of the

624
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:56,400
the residents that are there as well as
the overall well-being of the immediate

625
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,760
neighborhood. Anyway, sorry, long-winded
way to say, have there been any

626
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,280
instances in other communities where BC
housing operators have been able to find

627
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,760
ways to fund something similar to what
we're asking for?

628
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:14,319
» Thank you for the question through the
chair. um we have seen great

629
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:18,559
partnerships happen and so in some cases
directly with uh operator NBC housing we

630
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,480
look to get creative and so the example
that I would share is what I was I I

631
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:27,040
said previously which is we have the
opportunity to provide some additional

632
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:33,359
funding to look out to have additional
FTE resources to be able to oversee this

633
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:37,680
type of program um not fully full-time
but part of that role could include this

634
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:41,119
type of work and also providing an
increase so they can do that honorarian

635
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:45,520
And the other piece I would say and
Shane can speak more more to this, but

636
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,760
there is the homelessness response
leadership table in Kawachin right now.

637
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,680
And so we do have the opportunity
through that table to have conversations

638
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:59,040
as partners about how we do this
together. And so what that could look

639
00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:02,480
like is partnering with um Couchin
Housing Association or with outreach

640
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,800
partners or with BC Housing's own
encampment response team to be able to

641
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:11,680
partner on how we address specific
issues. So, it's one thing for Lookout

642
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:17,040
uh not to be providing resources to
people who aren't living at the site and

643
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:20,640
to encourage people with a handout or
information to be able to go seek

644
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:24,640
services elsewhere, but really about
partners coming together in community.

645
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,720
We've seen that work where outreaches
together and different service providers

646
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:33,599
and talking about the resources we
collectively have in a community and how

647
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,760
we can deploy or allocate those where
the emerging need is. And so, that's

648
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:41,760
what we've seen work as well.
And I believe that the for the first few

649
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:46,160
years that the village operated that is
what was done. We were sort of a

650
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:51,520
template for that in the region. Is that
am I correct um Shane on that? That's

651
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,040
that was something that we did but then
funding started to shift and change

652
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,520
around and now what we're asking what
I'm hearing is that we're moving back to

653
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:04,400
reimplementing that model in a in a more
robust way with staff hours that you're

654
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:08,640
talking about to go towards that. So it
is something that we did do as as part

655
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,960
of the beginning of this for a number of
years. So am I hearing that correctly?

656
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,520
» Absolutely. Mayor Staples, you are
hearing that correctly. We would love to

657
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:22,640
um bring it back to that. You will
remember that the table had applied um

658
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:27,040
um for peer funding um through other
other means. Um and so we had some

659
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:31,920
one-off grants that were that were
augmenting peer service for a long time

660
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:35,119
and certainly we've missed that. Um um
the other thing I think that's so

661
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:38,800
important to note is as there are
different approaches to uh the

662
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:43,440
homelessness within the region and that
people are are are kind of um uh

663
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:48,880
disrupted in maybe how they would have
camped rough before or stayed on on

664
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:52,960
couch and land. Um
folks folks are they're figuring out a

665
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:57,440
new pattern. Uh, and it's really
important that we um uh continue to work

666
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:03,200
alongside our tenants and residents who
feel somewhat sometimes a little guilty

667
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:07,440
for for having um um a pod uh and and
and and living within the village when

668
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:12,800
some of their friends are still very
rough on the streets. Uh and so they um

669
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:16,480
um will sometimes um you know try to
support their friends on the streets by

670
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:21,040
bringing them you know some of the
sandwiches from the site. Um um and and

671
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,520
we have to educate and and make sure
that they understand that if you do this

672
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,599
more will come uh and the impact on the
community is hard and and it's um um you

673
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:35,200
know people don't always put their
refuge in in the buckets and and and

674
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:39,280
that kind of thing. And so um you know
reminding the tenants and educating the

675
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:43,280
tenants and letting them know here here
are the decisions we'd like you guys to

676
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:49,680
make and here's why. Um it does take a
while sometimes to change some of those

677
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:53,520
some of those behaviors. Sure.
Can I just say something to that? I I

678
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:58,880
think too that that's one of the things
with the village that we have managed to

679
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:03,200
do as a community as well uh is to
recognize that you know there is going

680
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:06,800
there are times where we have to relook
at things and we have to reimagine

681
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:10,720
things and we have to the ch everything
is changing around us and it sounds like

682
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:16,400
we're you know back on that road again
and and so um I I believe that when we

683
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:22,160
do presentations about this one of the
things that we talk about all the time

684
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:26,960
is the the ability to you know to not do
things well and but address those needs

685
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:31,040
and address those changes so that we
know everything isn't always going to

686
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:33,839
run smoothly. As you know, Shane has
pointed out the community has changed.

687
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:39,119
We've seen that. I've seen that
everywhere. And so, uh, but it it is

688
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,920
important for us to pick that up and,
you know, make sure that we're

689
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:46,960
addressing that. And that is what I'm
hearing uh being spoken today and being

690
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,640
shared today. And I for one am, you
know, really grateful to hear that

691
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:56,480
because it is, as we've said throughout
this whole process to to all of you at

692
00:55:53,040 --> 00:56:01,920
BC Housing, um to the to the province,
that's such a core component of making

693
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:05,280
this successful. And so I just wanted to
add that while we were on topic and I'm

694
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:08,640
going to pass it back to um councelor
Caps.

695
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,359
» Absolutely. Thank you so much. So just
looking at the amendment that's been

696
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,559
proposed here, just I'll just read it
out. It just says that the site operator

697
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:17,839
must conduct neighborhood security
checks within a 60 meter radius of the

698
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:21,040
land with the nature and frequency of
the security checks to be determined in

699
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,480
consultation with the city's bylaw
compliance department and approved by

700
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,240
the city's chief administrative officer.
And I'm not sure if perhaps this is a a

701
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:31,119
question for Miss McMilliam or Mr.
But just does it sound as though based

702
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,559
on the discussion that we've just been
having about um some of the possible

703
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:38,640
ideas or the ways that that could look.
Does it sound as though

704
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:43,040
it doesn't sound to me as though this
amendment would prohibit these

705
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:46,960
discussions? It sound actually like
we're quite on a similar page in terms

706
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,280
of what we're looking for. Um does it
sound as though those types of

707
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:53,839
discussions and things that are being
had would be that's what we're trying to

708
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,960
be able to have with with having this
amendment if that makes sense?

709
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:07,760
Thank you through Mayor Staples to
councelor Caps. We had a similar

710
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:12,079
discussion at a staff level about what
exactly the um the language around

711
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:18,480
perimeter checks that was included in
the letter of commitment meant. And our

712
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:22,079
our concern is that um exactly as you
raised, our hope was that the there

713
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,400
would be a commitment made to ensuring
that the congregation that has from time

714
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:30,319
to time occurred adjacent to the site
would be addressed even if it was just

715
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:36,160
past the perimeter of the of the
location. So the 60 meters would bring

716
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:40,319
us around the site where we have been
from time to time encountering some

717
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:46,400
issues and the hope there is that a
conversation could occur and people

718
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,839
could be encouraged to to relocate and
if that's not successful of course

719
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:55,520
there's a willingness and an interest in
providing support and hoping to see the

720
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:59,359
site continue to succeed. So, um, yeah,
I think what has been included as an

721
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:05,119
amendment to the temporary use permit
aligns well with what's being discussed

722
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:08,799
around a peer patrol um or arrangement
and whether that's specific only to this

723
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:13,920
site or whether that's something that
could be carried out for all of the the

724
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,920
support sites that are in the community
that would that would also align. I

725
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:22,559
think
>> have another question another followup

726
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,520
» sort of line. So, thank you but but go
ahead council caps. Um, thank you so

727
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,880
much through the chair to Miss
McWilliam. So, yeah, in my mind, this

728
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:34,960
this amendment uh is not overly
prescriptive. I think that what it is

729
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:38,880
asking for is very reasonable and and
not misaligned with the discussion we've

730
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:43,920
been having tonight. Um, and I think I I
really do I really want to support this

731
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,839
um this renewal, this this application.
I really want to support it. Um, and I

732
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:53,680
think supporting it as amendment as as
amended here, the staff recommendation

733
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,000
allows uh staff and BC housing and the
operator and everyone to work together

734
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,520
to come up with something that's going
to work well for the residents of the

735
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:03,760
village, the the neighborhood, and uh
the broader community and all the

736
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,079
organization. So, I yeah, I plan to uh
vote in favor of this, but I'll let

737
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,880
everyone else speak before I start
moving things over here.

738
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Uh, councelor Duncan.

739
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,359
We'll go to councelor Newington was
first I believe.

740
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:29,920
» I just have a question about um when
you're going to be move um putting in

741
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:33,920
new pods. So you're doing it on like
four or five pods at a time. Is that

742
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:39,119
what you're doing? Okay. I just didn't
want to have all those people without

743
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,319
their home.
We're definitely going to be taking

744
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,839
advantage of some of the tenanting to
White Road to be able to create a little

745
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:51,040
bit of vacancy and then move through the
pods as we Yeah, absolutely. We don't

746
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:56,559
want to accomplish that that either.
>> Thank you, Council McKinley.

747
00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:01,440
» Regarding the fencing and the security
and the lightings, so if you're putting

748
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:06,400
in a new fence, is it going to be a
gated community now or is it going to be

749
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:11,680
open? because you said you're moving the
office forward to closer to the street

750
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:18,000
side. So I just question that way and
the security would be cameras on all

751
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:21,599
corners. Correct.
>> Uh thank you for the question. So we are

752
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:25,520
still working through with the operator
to make sure that what we're proposing

753
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,359
doesn't limit the ongoing operations of
the site. So that is one of the

754
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:33,599
questions around the gate um having it
open for staff vehicles to come in etc.

755
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:37,359
So we are still working on that. We're
currently um sourcing for another

756
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,599
project a gate that has the ability to
roll. Uh so certainly um going to have

757
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,480
that conversation with Lookout and the
placement of the cameras is going to be

758
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,720
based on where we move the pods in the
amenity space. So absolutely the point

759
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:53,440
of putting in cameras would be able to
have maximum visibility as well as

760
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:57,680
lighting. So we're also going to um I
think move the position of the fence. I

761
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:02,559
think there was a request to to move it
slightly. So we have the opportunity to

762
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:05,760
do that. that was brought up by uh by uh
city of Duncan staff and I believe

763
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:09,040
Lookout also supports the movement of
the fence. So there's going to be a

764
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:12,720
couple of tweaks in that sense too and
plus some of the fencing interior to try

765
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:16,240
to create a little bit of a sense of
community sort of separate the groups of

766
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,680
pods together. So lots of different
combination of things um that we're

767
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,319
happy to continue to work with your
staff on as we establish them.

768
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:30,640
» Excellent. Thank you. Is there any other
questions? No. Councelor Duncan,

769
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:34,559
» thank you your worship. Um, so if I
understand correctly and I heard you

770
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:40,799
correctly, there is some money for an
FTE that would work with the peers. Is

771
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:45,119
that correct?
>> BC Housing and Lookout are having a

772
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:49,920
conversation about what additional FTE
hours can be added to the site to be

773
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:55,280
able to provide that support.
>> Yeah.

774
01:01:50,559 --> 01:02:00,079
» Okay. And uh um one more. So what is the
process? Because right next door to the

775
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:05,680
village was the old youth center and
when I drive by I usually see three or

776
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:10,880
four people laying on the ground uh
doing drugs. uh what is your your

777
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:14,960
procedure if when you go if you happen
to run go out at the time do you tell

778
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:19,119
them move on or do you say we're going
to phone the police or we're going to

779
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:25,520
phone the bylaws or you know uh the
other thing I was wondering is is there

780
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:30,000
some way for um lookout to assume what I
I think you get permission from a

781
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:35,200
property owner to move people along we
similar to what we did at the ENN

782
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:38,319
so is there some way that you guys could
say you know work with the property

783
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:44,640
owner that's complaining that people are
out there all the time to get

784
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:49,839
enforcement faster
>> through the chair. So, Lookout's being

785
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:55,440
contracted by BC Housing to operate the
village. And so in terms of moving

786
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:58,720
people along who are sheltering or
gathering in front of a private business

787
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:02,480
or another building, that's not what
we're contracting Lookout to do. But we

788
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:06,720
are interested in having a community
conversation together with service

789
01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:11,040
providers about what we can do together
to provide support. I just I just want

790
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:15,760
to respectfully manage expectations for
what Lookout will be able to do and

791
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:19,200
where we need to put some um boundaries
in terms of the expectation that they'll

792
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:24,240
be doing all the things related to
homelessness in Duncan. Really, if we're

793
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,760
seeing people who are gathering outside
the area of the village where it's

794
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,039
located because maybe they're trying to
come and talk to their friends or they

795
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,640
were here last time and their friend
gave them their lunch. But it's really

796
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,839
about lookout referring people to other
resources that are available in

797
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:42,880
community and just discouraging people
from gathering in large groups. So I'm

798
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,480
just Yeah, it would really be about that
conversation with community and service

799
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,680
providers and outreach partners on how
we're looking after people who are

800
01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:51,839
actually living outside.
>> Yeah,

801
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,119
» thank you.
>> Yeah, if I may add to that. Um uh yes.

802
01:03:54,160 --> 01:04:01,280
So if they are tenant um uh uh councelor
Tom if they're if they're if they're

803
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:04,640
tenants of the village uh and we can
identify that they're tenants of the

804
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:08,160
village then it gets into a larger
educational piece a conversation. Hey

805
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:12,079
listen how do you think the neighbors
feel about that? How do you think the um

806
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:16,319
you know the the the businesses next to
us um uh you know do do you think that

807
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:20,880
that's a good positive kind of community
element? Um and and and you know we

808
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:25,119
these conversations sink in for the
tenants and we've got you know lots of

809
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:28,720
leverage and lots of ability to educate
and help people that are living at the

810
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:33,359
site. That's you know and that's our
focus and that's exactly what BC Housing

811
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:38,559
wants us to be doing. Um you know we've
had conversations with with the the the

812
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:42,240
um neighbor directly beside us. Uh one
of the big reasons why people were

813
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:46,400
congregating was the shade of the trees
um and and people wanting to be around

814
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:50,480
those trees. Um, and we had talked
about, you know, expanding the fence to

815
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:55,440
go around those trees. Um, and and that
that neighborhood didn't want that to

816
01:04:52,000 --> 01:05:00,720
happen. Um, um, you know, we've tried to
be a bit more proactive. There seems to

817
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:07,760
be some hesitancy there to um, uh, look
at, you know, a larger uh, uh, solution

818
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:11,680
to some of those ongoing issues. Um um
but you know what I think we normally

819
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:15,359
see through our through our through our
checks uh through our perimeter checks

820
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,200
are people that that that we're not
familiar with or that we have some

821
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:23,760
rapport with. Uh and our approach would
look like this. Hey, how you doing

822
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:27,119
today? Um yeah, you know, this is
private property. Uh you know, you're

823
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:31,119
not supposed to be here. Um you know,
can you pack it up and you know, can you

824
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:34,960
head head on down to um you know, uh
warmland? You know, the local shelter is

825
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:39,280
just down this way. Sometimes people
don't know. So you want to give them uh

826
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:44,079
resources. I think what what Jen's um
what BC Housing is uh uh um suggesting

827
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:48,079
is that we you know um um work with
other providers and have you know some

828
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:52,400
resources that we can hand to somebody
to help them on their journey um to to

829
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:56,640
wellness whatever that looks like but it
can't be where you're currently at. Um

830
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:00,720
and then that can be met with okay yeah
no problem I'll be gone and they're gone

831
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:05,280
in 2 minutes. or can be met with uh some
hostility and some you know we don't

832
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:09,760
have to listen to you and you know some
harsh words in which which case our

833
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:14,960
staff would typically back off and make
a phone call to um um um you know our

834
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:19,599
our our policing partners if it was
folks in danger um you know maybe uh

835
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:23,760
ambulance if somebody was overdosing and
and you know we had given an oxen and

836
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:29,280
they're up again um you know because he
did say that they were using drugs um uh

837
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:34,480
or maybe bylaws um if you know that
they're uh um if if they have capability

838
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:39,039
to help us in that moment. So um there'd
be you know we go run through the list

839
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:43,200
of of folks that maybe be able to help
but um uh uh you know and that's met

840
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:47,119
with you know some success and sometimes
it takes a while for you know our our

841
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:51,280
policing partners are busy on other
things and so not they don't always get

842
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:56,000
there. So you might see those same
people hanging there a half an hour or

843
01:06:53,440 --> 01:07:00,039
45 minutes later. Um, and that's usually
around a local capacity.

844
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:08,079
» Yes, I am definitely supportive. I just
see this as let's nip this in the bud,

845
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:11,799
as they say, before it gets to be uh
Lewis Street issue.

846
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:15,559
» Uh,

847
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:23,359
Stacy,
I just lost my mind.

848
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:29,520
» Thanks. Um, yeah, I appreciate, uh,
everything that's being presented. Um,

849
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:35,680
and I'm kind of in a unique position,
um, having worked front lines for many

850
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:43,680
years. Um, and you know, I often think
back to when I first started out in the

851
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:47,520
in my work and um, you know, you're like
a heart, you know, advocating for your

852
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:53,119
clients are homeless and you want the,
you know, and all those things and I see

853
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:58,960
it every day in my work. um
where I think staff just sometimes

854
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:03,520
either they're they just don't have the
training or it's not leadership doesn't

855
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:11,119
bring that forward where like they don't
understand their whole focus is on their

856
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:15,119
clients and um they don't always
understand

857
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:20,880
the whole concept of like making sure
that the neighborhood

858
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:25,920
is happy in order to have this site. and
how that helps people that live there.

859
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,960
And so I think sometimes there's um
sometimes

860
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:33,120
I know there's a lot of that
conversation also with the clients that

861
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:36,480
live at the village and um you know a
lot of them take ownership for for that

862
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,960
place and I know we used to always hear
stories about them helping out neighbors

863
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:46,319
and taking you know lots of things great
stories have come out of there. Um,

864
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:50,000
yeah. I think just on top of and I get
that you're you're going to come up

865
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,759
against people that don't want to move
and all those things, but I think

866
01:08:51,120 --> 01:09:01,920
sometimes it just comes down to if the
staff have a really good understanding

867
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:06,560
at all the le levels of staff around um,
you know, what kind of what we're asking

868
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:10,719
for and what why it's important because
you don't you don't unless you're in

869
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:13,920
this work or in your you know, land
work, you don't always know those

870
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:18,319
pieces. and you're just like hardcore
wanting to help your clients and and so

871
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:23,440
that piece gets forgotten or they don't
know about it. So it's always like oh by

872
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:28,640
the city or RCMP like they're the bad
guys but really they're just like a we

873
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:32,480
have a kind of a difficult seat too
where we're trying to we want to support

874
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,799
this because we know it's doing a great
thing for the people that are living

875
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:41,679
there and at the same time we're also
responsibility responsible to the rest

876
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:44,239
of the community and so we have to in
some kind of balance. Of course, we

877
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,120
can't say there's never going to be
anyone outside the gate waiting for

878
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:51,199
somebody or whatever, right? It's going
to happen time to time, but it's just

879
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:56,800
overall, I think if the staff have a
better understanding

880
01:09:53,040 --> 01:10:03,719
of those pieces and like why that's
important. Um, then I think that that

881
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,719
would go a long way.

882
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:15,040
» Thank you. Anyone else?
No. Okay.

883
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:18,800
Thank you uh everyone for um for your
presentation. Is there anything else

884
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:24,080
that any of the presenters would like to
say at this point in time?

885
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:27,920
No. Okay. And so now if there's anyone
here who believes that their interest

886
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:31,840
may be affected, um this is the
opportunity for you to come up to the

887
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:37,560
microphone.
Do I have to do it three times?

888
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,560
Three.

889
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,199
There's different procedures for
different things. So, I just wanted to

890
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:54,960
make sure. Okay. So, I'm not seeing
anyone else um come up to the

891
01:10:52,719 --> 01:11:00,239
microphone. And I just would like to
just make a comment about this before I

892
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:05,440
read out this very lengthy motion. Um,
but

893
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:09,360
I know that the people that are here
recognize the the value of the village

894
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:16,320
and what it brings to the people who are
there and also to our community and how

895
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:20,320
it's changed. And I also really want to
um thank you all for all of the work

896
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:23,840
that you've done and for all of the
hurdles that you've all overcome through

897
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:29,120
this process. We've had some pretty
intense conversations over the last how

898
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:33,520
many years has it been now? Five years.
uh at multiple times in multiple stages

899
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:38,400
of this. Some of them have not gone
well. Um but I believe that they've all

900
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:43,679
they've but we've gotten through all of
those and this has not been easy. It's

901
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:48,880
breaking ground on something that's
different and and and I really just want

902
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:52,320
to thank everyone for going through that
because it's not easy. These

903
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:58,560
conversations are not easy to our staff
as well. you. Our staff has done an

904
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:06,320
incredible job um at addressing this and
going above and beyond uh to to ensure

905
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:10,080
you know to ensure that we're we're even
though things can be struggle sometimes

906
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:14,080
that we're trying to figure out a way to
to have solutions instead of just saying

907
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:18,000
you know what forget it we're not doing
this. There's so many times along the

908
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:23,920
line that that could have happened and
we persevered and people figured out

909
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:29,199
ways of having different conversations
and figured out ways of different ways

910
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:33,920
of advocating and um and our council has
brought multiple motions to UBCM around

911
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:40,560
this and I've been very proud to be a
spokesperson on behalf of this all

912
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:44,320
across the country and uh and and it's
those and and one of the things that I

913
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:48,080
always go back to is that this is not
something that is simple. It is has to

914
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:52,239
be, you know, there there's always going
to be things that we have to overcome

915
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:55,920
and deal with. And it's how we do that.
And we don't always do that, you know,

916
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:00,800
we do that to the best of our ability at
the time, but we definitely um continue

917
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:08,080
to move forward with this. And so I'm
just grateful for everyone and to our

918
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:12,080
council who continues as well um to and
to our community members that support

919
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:16,239
this. Right. But council, you've been
huge advocates and leaders in this and

920
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:19,840
and that people talk to me about that
all the time too when I'm presenting in

921
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:24,480
different communities because it is not
easy in these seats to make decisions

922
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:29,760
that are super unpopular sometimes and
come at a real cost in lots of in lots

923
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:36,560
of different ways in our lives. But I'm
just proud of us for car carrying on

924
01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:41,760
this path and um and continuing to to be
willing to stand in this. And so just

925
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:46,239
thanks to everyone for everything we've
done up to this point.

926
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:51,040
And now I will read out this very long
motion. Actually, it's not that long.

927
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,040
I'm being dramatic. It's been a long
week.

928
01:13:54,320 --> 01:14:03,360
I know.
I think this is my 17th day in a row. So

929
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:08,480
it's uh always just one one uh run-on
week for me lately. So that council

930
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:14,320
amend temporary use permit number TUP
2026 for 610 trunk road by adding the

931
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:17,520
following condition. Uh 10. The site
operator must conduct neighborhood

932
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:22,000
security checks within 60 meter radius
of land with the nature and frequency of

933
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:25,040
the security checks to be determined in
consultation with the city's bylaw

934
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:29,760
compliance department and approved by
the city's chief administrative officer.

935
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:34,239
And that trunk that no and that council
issue temporary use permit number TUP

936
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:38,239
2026014610
Trunk Road as amended to facilitate the

937
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:42,400
temporary accommodation of up to 40
unsheltered people in up to 40 modular

938
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:48,960
sleeping units for a three-year term
beginning December 31st, 2026 and ending

939
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:52,880
December 31st, 2029. Do I have a mover
and a second for this motion? Is there

940
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:57,280
any further discussion on this motion?
Seeing no hands, all those in favor?

941
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:01,360
Anyone opposed? Motion carries
unanimously. Thank you all again so much

942
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:05,840
for all the work that you do in our
community and all the work you've done

943
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:12,600
um on this. We'll just give everyone a
moment

944
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:12,600
before we carry on to our agenda.

945
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:24,159
Thanks Shane. Oh, he's gone. That was
too fast. Okay, so Miss Crosman for the

946
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:31,120
annual report.
Thank you, Mayor Staples. So you have in

947
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:35,840
front of you the 2025 annual report. All
the departments at the city have a hand

948
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:41,520
in creating this report for the previous
year. It's legislated by the community

949
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:48,960
charter that it be received by council
before June 30th of each year. And um we

950
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:58,360
can go through
it page by page if you'd like. I'm just

951
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,360
kidding. There's 138 pages.

952
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:05,040
» Happy to take any questions if there are
any.

953
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:09,159
» Thank you. Are there any questions for
Miss Crossman about the report?

954
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:14,800
There's no request for her to read out
every page. No. You have a question now?

955
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,679
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Go.

956
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:24,199
» Didn't we win an award for this report
or did we want we won an award for your

957
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,199
financial work this year, right?

958
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:33,520
Guys, we have won awards for the
previous 14 years in a row. We haven't

959
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:39,640
won an award for this one yet because it
hasn't been submitted, but I'm confident

960
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,640
that we will.

961
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:48,000
Oh, sorry. It's over to me, isn't it?
That was it. All right. I was expecting

962
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:52,560
more than that. Okay. Okay. The council
received the 2025 annual report is

963
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:56,880
attached uh from the director of
finance.

964
01:16:54,080 --> 01:17:00,640
All those in favor? Motion carries. And
statement of financial information. That

965
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:05,520
must be you again, Miss Craftman.
>> Yes. Thank you, Mayor Staples. So, this

966
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:09,520
again is a legislative requirement that
the city prepares a statement of

967
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:15,040
financial information
uh must be completed by June the 30th.

968
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:20,800
So this um
records a schedule of debts of which we

969
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:24,880
have none. Schedule of remuneration and
expenses for elected officials and for

970
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:31,040
employees.
A schedule of severance agreements and

971
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:37,760
suppliers of goods and services of which
we've paid over $25,000.

972
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:44,520
And then the approval and the financial
statements. So, this is just on for uh

973
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,520
approval by council.

974
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:54,400
Any questions for Miss Crossman?
I see no hands. So, the council approved

975
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:58,800
the 2025 statement of financial
information as attached to the June

976
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:03,440
22nd, 2026 report by the director of
finance. Move in a second. All those in

977
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:07,679
favor? Motion carries. And we'll move
now to the December field booking fee

978
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:13,120
reduction for the Couch and Valley
Football Association.

979
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:17,719
And that one is over to Miss Mc William.
Miss Crossman, you're off the hook for a

980
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:17,719
moment.

981
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:26,159
Thank you, Mayor Staples. We have
received a request from the Cavan Valley

982
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:32,560
Football Association for a reduction on
their invoice from December of last

983
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:36,719
year. Um there was a a mistake made
around the field booking and they did

984
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:42,400
inadvertently did not cancel cancel
their December field usage times. Uh

985
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:48,719
they fully recognized that the process
was just there was a learning curve

986
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:53,199
involved and they just needed um they
were unfortunately did not communicate

987
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:56,880
with us on on their end around the
cancellation.

988
01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:00,960
Um, we
given that it was December, it it is

989
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:04,800
very unlikely that there were other user
groups that were intending to use it, we

990
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:08,000
didn't leave the field lights on. Um,
they've

991
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:12,800
made sure that they've made a commitment
to following the process going forward.

992
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:16,719
So, over to you for consideration.
All right. Are there any questions about

993
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:20,560
this one? So, the council reduced the
Couch and Valley Football Association's

994
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:25,920
December 2025 field booking fees from
$1,1949

995
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:30,000
to $989. Recognizing that the booked
field time was not used. Is there a

996
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:35,199
mover and a seconder? Any discussion?
All those in favor? Motion carries.

997
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:41,600
Strategic plan actions.
And that is over to Mr. Dvertai.

998
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:45,840
Thank you, Mayor Stipples. Um, so a bit
of an update. I won't go through the

999
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:51,040
entire uh entirety of the update report,
but uh just for for reminder that the

1000
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:56,159
items or the actions that are complete
have been listed in black. items that

1001
01:19:53,360 --> 01:20:01,600
are on track or or largely now complete
are less than in green and actions that

1002
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:05,679
are somewhat behind uh are on the
scheduleled as uh as orange. So maybe

1003
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:10,080
I'll just highlight a couple of there's
actually been a number of uh items over

1004
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:13,520
the last uh 6 to 12 months that have
progressed quite quite significantly.

1005
01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:17,440
Not the least of which uh more recently
is the initiation of the boundary

1006
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:22,480
realignment study that's been on council
strap plan for well over 10 years now.

1007
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:26,880
Uh some good progress on the heritage
program now approved. The Canada Avenue

1008
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:33,440
complete streets project is now well
underway. The Cornation uh Queens bike

1009
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:39,199
lanes are are now um largely complete
and we made some good good progress very

1010
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:43,280
recently on the items such as the
Transcatter Highway landscaping plan.

1011
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:46,560
Unfortunately, that won't be in a
position to construct those until those

1012
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,040
improvements until the fall, but it's
just definitely um moving moving along

1013
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:55,280
in and some good progress in a lot of
projects in the last um in the last

1014
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,760
while. So, happy to answer any
questions.

1015
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:02,000
» All right. Are there any questions for
Mr. Dvertai at this time? I don't see

1016
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:07,440
any hands up. You're getting off easy
tonight. The council received the June

1017
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:13,120
uh 2020 Why do I keep saying that? the
June 22nd, 2026 strategic plan action

1018
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:18,080
status update report for information
only. Mover and a second. All those in

1019
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:21,920
favor, everyone put their hands up all
at once. All right. Thank you very much.

1020
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:27,280
And now back to you, Miss Crossman, for
the climate action report for 2025.

1021
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:33,600
Thank you, Mayor Staples. As you can
see, I've been doing a lot of reporting

1022
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:39,600
work for the previous year. This most uh
recent report is concerning the city's

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:45,920
emissions and the commitment to being
carbon neutral. And so I've um listed

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01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:50,800
out here the emissions that we've done
from our direct services as well as the

1025
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:56,480
emissions from contractors that we've
hired to do infrastructure projects in

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:22:02,880
the city and calculated that we would
need to purchase 300 offsets in order to

1027
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:09,840
be carbon neutral. slightly higher than
some previous years. Couple reasons for

1028
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:15,120
that. Um the the first one is that the
province has changed the calculation of

1029
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:21,120
how much emissions
uh the use of hydro is worth. Um I don't

1030
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:28,159
know a lot about how they calculated but
it has somewhat to do with um water use

1031
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:34,400
and the needing to get hydro from
outside of the country. Um so this is a

1032
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:39,840
a year that they've calculated that
hydro is worth more emissions. So that

1033
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:46,400
has brought our totals what would have
been under the old calculations we would

1034
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:52,239
have had 156 emissions we this year we
have 193 and that's mostly because of

1035
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:57,840
that change. Uh and then we our
contracted services have also increased

1036
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:03,760
and that's just attributable to the uh
capital projects that we did last year.

1037
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:09,360
We had some big ones. Um so we're
looking for direction from council to

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:17,360
purchase 300 carbon credits at an
approximate cost of 9,450.

1039
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:25,920
and staff are again recommending the um
Great Bear car forest carbon project as

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:30,880
the project that is closest to home.
>> All right. Is there any questions?

1041
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:38,159
Councelor Newington, go ahead.
>> Um I do have one question. So the people

1042
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:44,719
that we have contracted with the city um
do is there some sort of restriction for

1043
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:50,719
how much do they buy carbon credits as
well or do we have that in in our policy

1044
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:55,199
of hiring somebody?
Uh, no, we don't have that in our

1045
01:23:52,400 --> 01:24:01,440
policy, but we just we have in our um
when we hire them, we state that they

1046
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:05,920
will need to submit to us a calculation
of how many liters of fuel they used,

1047
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:13,920
both diesel and gas, while doing the
project. And then the city then counts

1048
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:19,880
those as our emissions. But we don't um
state that they have to be carbon

1049
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:19,880
neutral themselves.

1050
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:29,840
Fantastic. No other hands. So, the
council received report climate action

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01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:33,440
plan report 2025 dated June 22nd, 2026
for information only and the council

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:37,440
direct staff to purchase 300 carbon
credits at an approximate total cost of

1053
01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:42,080
9,450
to be funded from local government

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01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:46,639
climate action program reserve. Mover
and a seconder. Any more discussion? All

1055
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:51,520
those in favor? Motion carries. Thank
you very much for that. and we're going

1056
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:56,480
to move on to new business. Um, so we
have the elect respect pledge. I'm not

1057
01:24:54,480 --> 01:25:01,040
sure if everyone's had a chance to read
that, but at the uh annual Vancouver

1058
01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:06,239
Island and Coastal Communities
Conference, they had a table there. Um,

1059
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:13,760
it was the Mayor Wells that brought uh
brought the group there and essentially

1060
01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:18,239
as abuse is uh at a bit of an all-time
high for elected officials. And actually

1061
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:21,120
at the recent um conference that
councelor Duncan and councelor Capsner

1062
01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:26,400
were at for the federal municipalities
conference, there was a number of

1063
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:31,440
sessions on um how challenging that is
getting across Canada

1064
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:38,000
and harassment and abuse are undermining
uh they're undermining conversation uh

1065
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:44,080
and also democracy. Okay. And so we have
a resolution around electrospect

1066
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:50,960
to try to start to shift the discourse
back to you know we can we can we need

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01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:58,000
to do this work in different ways and uh
we need to do it in respectful ways. And

1068
01:25:53,920 --> 01:26:01,600
so the resolution I'll read out uh is
whereas democracy is healthy when

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:05,120
everyone is able to participate fully
and safely and contribute to the

1070
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:08,800
well-being of their community and
whereas we are witnessing the

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:12,239
dissolution of democratic democratic
discourse and respectful debate across

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:17,760
all levels of governments and in
neighboring jurisdictions and whereas

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01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:21,120
Ontario's mun municipally elected
officials are dealing with so this would

1074
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:25,360
be British columbombians I guess in this
case elected officials are dealing with

1075
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:28,960
uh increasingly hostile, unsafe work
environments and facing threats and

1076
01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:33,840
harassment. And whereas social media
platforms have exacerbated disrespectful

1077
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:38,400
dialogue, negative commentary, and toxic
engagement, which de disincentivizes

1078
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:41,920
individuals, especially women and
candidates from diverse backgrounds,

1079
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:46,239
from running for office. And whereas
better decisions are made when democracy

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01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:50,960
is respectful and constructive and the
voices of diverse genders, identities,

1081
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:54,800
ethnicities, races, sexual orientation,
ages, and abilities are heard and

1082
01:26:53,040 --> 01:27:00,000
represented around municipal council
tables. And whereas the Association of

1083
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,159
Vancouver Island and Coastal
Communities, is that the one that we

1084
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:08,880
would be doing it under or would it be
UBCM?

1085
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:11,880
We're not. Okay. AVIC. Okay.
um

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01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:18,159
sorry uh has identified concerning
trends with fewer people voting in local

1087
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:23,199
elections and running for municipal
office and whereas in 2024 female

1088
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:27,440
elected representatives from across
Hamilton formed a group called her um

1089
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:31,360
it's a Hton elected representatives
which pledged to speak out against

1090
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:34,320
harassment and negatively negativity in
politics and called on elected officials

1091
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:38,560
to uphold the highest standards of
conduct and whereas her has launched a

1092
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,840
campaign called elect respect act to
promote the importance of healthy

1093
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,280
democracy and safe, inclusive,
respectful work environments for all

1094
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:48,880
elected officials that encourages
individuals to participate in the

1095
01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:53,199
political process. And whereas on June
5th, 2025, the Canadian Association of

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01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:58,560
Feminist Parliamentarians launched a
nonpartisan par parliamentary civility

1097
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:02,080
pledge to encourage all parliamentarians
to commit to end workplace harassment

1098
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:06,960
and increase civility on Parliament
Hill, modeled after the pledge developed

1099
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:10,159
in Halton by representatives of her. Now
therefore be it resolved that the city

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01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:13,760
of Duncan Council supports the elect
respect pledge and commits to treat

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01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:18,159
others with respect in all spaces
public, private, and online. Reject and

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:22,639
call out harassment, abuse, and personal
attacks. Focus on debate. Focus debate

1103
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:27,360
on ideas and policies, not personal
attacks. Help build supportive culture

1104
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:31,600
where people of all backgrounds feel
safe to run and hold office. call on

1105
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:36,080
relevant authorities to ensure the
protection of elected officials who face

1106
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:39,760
abuse or threats and model integrity and
respect by holding one another to the

1107
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:43,040
highest standards of conduct. And that
the city of Duncan Council calls on

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01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:46,800
elected officials, organizations, and
committee members to support the

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01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:52,080
Electres Respect campaign and sign the
online pledge at www.electrespect.ca

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01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:56,159
CA
and that this resolution, a copy of this

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:29:01,840
resolution be sent to the Association of
Vancouver Island Coastal Communities,

1112
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:05,800
uh, the Federation of, uh, BC or sorry,
the Federation of Canadian

1113
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,800
Municipalities.

1114
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:16,960
Do I keep reading this? No. Okay, leave
it at that. Okay, sorry, I'm reading the

1115
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:23,040
their from their page. Uh so that is the
resolution uh that uh if we sign on the

1116
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:28,719
elect respect pledge that council will
be adopting this evening. So is there

1117
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:33,120
any discussion or comment about this?
Councelor Newington and then councelor

1118
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:39,679
caps and then councelor Dun. Yeah, I
attended one of the um

1119
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:47,600
well, I guess they were seminars at um
FCM last year and um I was actually

1120
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:53,280
appalled at the number of incidents
across Canada of particularly female

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01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:59,840
elected officials that have been
harassed and threatened and bullied. It

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01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:05,199
is just it's outstanding
um how badly it is. So, I'm 100% behind

1123
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:09,199
this. Absolutely.
>> Thank you, Council Caps.

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,760
» Thank you. Yeah, it was really great to
meet um Mayor Maryanne Me Ward from

1125
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:18,239
Burlington who was sort of championing
spokesperson of this that uh that the

1126
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:21,760
mayor of Courtney brought to AVIC um and
to talk to her about some of the

1127
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:25,600
experiences that led to this the
creation of this. And I'm so pleased

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01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:29,600
that it's starting to be adopted like I
know I know Courtney has adopted it and

1129
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:36,560
uh other communities are are beginning
to as well. Um, at the FCM convention

1130
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:41,840
recently, I went to a session not
specifically on social media, but on the

1131
01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:47,600
ways that local government can be
inaccessible uh, for women and a lot of

1132
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:50,239
it came back to there there are lots of
different things, right? It was really

1133
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:54,480
an interesting session actually. But the
parts of it that were relevant to this

1134
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:58,000
were just the the vast number of elected
women in the room speaking about the the

1135
01:30:56,639 --> 01:31:01,600
amount of harassment, the severity of
the harassment that they've received

1136
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,639
since being elected or that has
prevented people they know from running

1137
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:09,040
for office. I know that locally we've
seen some really heinous instances of

1138
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:12,400
this uh somewhat recently with members
of our regional district, female members

1139
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:16,960
of our regional district being
absolutely bullied, harassed, um people

1140
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,560
using really horrific threatening
language and and slurs towards them

1141
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:26,320
online primarily. And so I think it's
really important that communities sign

1142
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:30,320
on to pledges like this and stand up and
take a stance and say that that's

1143
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:34,000
completely unacceptable and uh and
pledge to conduct ourselves in a

1144
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:37,440
respectful manner and and call out
people who aren't. So yeah, totally

1145
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,600
support
>> council Duncan.

1146
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:49,360
Uh thank you, Madame Mayor. So more a
process and procedure. um you know the a

1147
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:53,840
lot of the whereases referred to Ontario
will that be all corrected or you know

1148
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:58,960
because I in the the therefore be
resolved is fine. Uh but my pre my

1149
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,920
question is process and procedure we
just read out a bunch of stuff that

1150
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:05,440
relates to Ontario.
>> Yeah. Thank you uh councelor Duncan

1151
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:09,199
through Mayor Staples. The
electrespect.ca

1152
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:13,840
website doesn't allow us to adapt the
pledge. So it's more about signing on.

1153
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:17,840
Unfortunately, the wording doesn't isn't
entirely universal, but it the the

1154
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:24,280
sentiment is there and so they're
looking for signitories to the pledge as

1155
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:24,280
it exists on their website.

1156
01:32:25,679 --> 01:32:33,760
Uh yeah and uh I think that you know as
as over the years we've been going to

1157
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:38,960
more every I don't think there is a
conference for the last five or six

1158
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:43,520
years that does not have increasingly um
large sessions on and growing sessions

1159
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:48,960
on this type of challenge that people
are facing and it's also staff it's

1160
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:53,040
directed at female staff often um and
other staff members as well but uh

1161
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:57,280
predominantly what what came up was
around female staff members and in other

1162
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:02,560
jurisdictions and I know in ours um both
female and male um

1163
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:07,520
in some of the uh references that
councilor caps is making recently and it

1164
01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:11,199
is a it's it's a challenge people should
not have to feel unsafe you know when

1165
01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:17,040
they go to work and they should not have
to be uh subject to uh to the abuse that

1166
01:33:14,639 --> 01:33:21,520
is that is coming in it's you know it's
if people don't like a decision that is

1167
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:26,480
made or a decision that's on the table
there are respectful ways to have that

1168
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:30,880
discussion full stop. And so just to
bring awareness to this is really

1169
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:36,480
important. And it's getting into
election season which is making it a lot

1170
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:44,800
uh more aggressive and a lot worse. And
we, you know, I know so many people who

1171
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:48,400
uh would love to join into, you know,
considering running in different

1172
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:53,280
different areas. It just simply refuse
to now because of how bad it is and

1173
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:59,840
because of fear around that. And so,
yeah, this is important for us to make a

1174
01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:05,360
standard and uh and it just is not
there's so many better ways that we can

1175
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:12,159
we can uh agree to have differences and
work through

1176
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:20,159
um to get to a better outcome. So on
that note, uh all those in favor,

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01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:24,320
thank you very much and thank you for
bringing for uh bringing this to us as

1178
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:27,280
well. I know that we some of us what
after we went to ABSC brought this

1179
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:32,159
forward and thank you staff for
following it up and and uh bringing it

1180
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:36,080
here, Miss McMillian. Much appreciated.
And so the next is that council

1181
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:39,600
proclaimed September 2026 as childhood
cancer awareness month in the city of

1182
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:45,120
Duncan. Do I have a mover and a seconder
for that? All those in favor? Motion

1183
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:49,840
carries. Thank you. And we'll move into
our uh late edition, the Joint Utilities

1184
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,840
Board Sewage Treatment Plant Outfall
Relocation Project Update and Union of

1185
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:59,760
British Columbia Municipalities Funding
Risk. I will pass the floor to Miss

1186
01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:08,080
McWilliam before I consider reading out
this lengthy motion. Um over to you.

1187
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:13,360
» And thank you, Mayor Staples. There was
recently a joint utilities board meeting

1188
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:17,679
that took place on June 1st. Uh at the
meeting was called to consider a letter

1189
01:35:15,679 --> 01:35:21,600
that has been received from the union of
BC municipalities.

1190
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:28,880
They have previously made a commitment
to funding $6 million towards the sewage

1191
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:36,080
outfall relocation project. However, the
timeline and increasing costs of this

1192
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:41,360
project have uh caused them to
ask that the project be rescoped. So,

1193
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:46,960
they ask the joint utilities board to
consider narrowing the scope of the

1194
01:35:43,679 --> 01:35:52,880
project within 60 days and provide an
update to UBCM otherwise risk losing

1195
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:58,639
that funding. Now through the course of
the discussion at the at the job the

1196
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:03,520
conversation took place around the
potential of uh allocating that funding

1197
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:08,800
towards a a pump station or a portion of
the project. However, unfortunately the

1198
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:14,000
cost shortfall is so great at this time
that it it did not the joint utility

1199
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:18,880
board did not deem that to be feasible.
So you have before you a recommendation

1200
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:26,000
coming from the board at that meeting uh
suggesting that they advise UBCM that

1201
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:30,480
the project will not be rescoped
uh and that staff be directed to

1202
01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:35,440
continue to work to secure the balance
of the funding hopefully from the new

1203
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:40,000
building Canada fund and to seek funding
through the new building oh sorry the

1204
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:44,080
build community strong fund or any other
applicable fund for the construction of

1205
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:48,960
the project. And finally, draft a letter
to the province of BC and Canada for

1206
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:52,080
jointly to come from the mayor of North
Kawich and the mayor of the city of

1207
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:56,159
Duncan, the board chair of the cowin
valley regional district and the chief

1208
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:59,679
of cow and tribes to provide an update
around the project funding requesting

1209
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:05,360
support for funding to complete the
design and construction of this project

1210
01:37:02,639 --> 01:37:11,920
to include some following points that
should they be able to retain the new

1211
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:15,040
build Canada fund, the project
we will complete the acquisition of

1212
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:18,880
approvals and design with the intent of
requesting additional funding for the

1213
01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:26,800
construction of the project. But if
unable to uh retain the NBCF funding,

1214
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:32,040
then this the Joe utility board which is
administered by North Kawin will stop

1215
01:37:28,719 --> 01:37:32,040
design process.

1216
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:37,159
Questions?

1217
01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:46,719
» No questions. Oh, councelor Duncan.
So would this be like number four?

1218
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:50,639
» It's all four. So it's a bit of a
long-winded one. It essentially saying

1219
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:57,440
that it and it's
>> not going to be achievable to to make

1220
01:37:53,679 --> 01:38:02,320
the timeline that UBCM is requiring of
the joint utility board to be able to

1221
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:06,000
rescope the project and that in order to
continue to proceed with the design

1222
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:11,040
work, it would require some additional
funding through the new build Canada

1223
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:16,960
fund.
So, I just think that this is just too

1224
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:22,080
much money. Uh, I'd have to say it's
time to shelf this project. Is there

1225
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:29,360
some way that we can continue to
investigate any alternatives? Uh, you

1226
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:34,159
know, as as the future comes down
rather than this route that goes all the

1227
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:39,440
way out to the middle of Coway.
>> Um, thank you. Um, to councelor Duncan's

1228
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:44,880
question.
Maybe a few different things within the

1229
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:50,239
the report here is that that so item one
is just addressing that that aspect of

1230
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:53,520
sort of abandoning that that $6 million
because in order as as Paige mentioned

1231
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:59,440
in order to get that you got to probably
spend like 11 11 to 17 to secure that

1232
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:03,840
one. So that's that's a pretty pretty
costly ask and essentially the

1233
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:07,920
discussion of the GB was to really hold
off and ask for greater grant funds to

1234
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,000
be able to do the whole thing as opposed
to a portion of it that without the

1235
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:17,679
outfall doesn't doesn't really do too
much. Um the next one uh item two there

1236
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:21,840
is around so there is six million there
was two grants that were received or or

1237
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:25,440
approved one was the six million through
UBCM and then the other was 6 million

1238
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:29,600
through this new build candidate fund
they're just wanting conf confirmation

1239
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:32,880
that they continue to use that just from
the design perspective just use the six

1240
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,719
million for design only and just get
that as done as we can and then the

1241
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:41,199
items three and four are really around
and if and then continue to to try to

1242
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:45,679
get other grants whether that's through
this build community strong fund or just

1243
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:50,320
directly in in uh approaching the
province directly as to to find it from

1244
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:54,320
whatever program they want to they want
to come up come up with. um to the

1245
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:58,400
question around can we just do something
else that came out there was quite a bit

1246
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:06,880
of discussion at the at the GB uh around
that um and essentially there there's so

1247
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:11,360
much volume in the in the winter months
that it has to go somewhere like there

1248
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:16,800
isn't you know any other use of it
requires some sort of of marine outfall

1249
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,360
currently it's into the river and then
gets to the marine outfall there isn't

1250
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:23,520
there's just too much volume through the
winter months for it to be say for

1251
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:26,719
example taken on farmers fields or or
reused in any fashion. So there was a

1252
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:30,719
bit of discussion as well around, oh
well, could we reuse it? You know, some

1253
01:40:28,239 --> 01:40:34,320
places like in in Palm Desert, Palm
Springs, they actually recycle their

1254
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:37,600
water. Well, in order to do that, you're
spending millions and millions of

1255
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:42,080
dollars of creating the a purple pipe
system where you're piping it back into

1256
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:46,480
community. So also not maybe a great
project, but also extremely expensive.

1257
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:51,600
And in order to do that, you're probably
talking treatment plants or or an extens

1258
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:57,119
not just the distribution pipe but the
actual treatment. And then none of those

1259
01:40:53,600 --> 01:41:00,719
as as Mr. Reeds often rec brings up
during these discussions is none of

1260
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:03,840
those addresses that sort of there's
this um contaminants of emerging

1261
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:08,800
concern. So whether that's
pharmaceuticals or whatnot that enter

1262
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:12,239
into the enter into our waist stream
even the most advanced treatment plant

1263
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:16,639
you can't foresee what might come next
as as a something you may not be able to

1264
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:21,040
treat. So you may may take it to a
certain level. So that's why ultimately

1265
01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:27,280
the best location for it to go is when
it's possible is into a unfortunately

1266
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:31,360
into a very expensive marine outfall. So
there was quite a bit of discussion and

1267
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:34,960
um ultimately the JB did did recommend
that that that we move forward in this

1268
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:38,880
fashion
because the project costs have ballooned

1269
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:43,520
from what were originally in the 20,000
20 million range to 96 million now is

1270
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:48,560
kind of where we're current and that and
that's not even the most current. So it

1271
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:52,719
could be even higher at this push any so
that's a a big challenge.

1272
01:41:50,239 --> 01:41:54,880
» So 20 million to 96 million in how many
years?

1273
01:41:53,440 --> 01:42:00,360
» Oh it's been a number of years we've
been at it. I'd have to look

1274
01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:00,360
specifically to

1275
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:09,920
Yeah, I'd have to I'd have to email
that. I'd be um pick a pick a year

1276
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:14,159
that's but it's it's been I mean
essentially since almost since my entire

1277
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:17,760
time we've been talking about moving the
outfall uh from the river in the

1278
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:22,239
conversations with couch and tribes and
in the current lease agreement and so

1279
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:27,600
we've been certainly making as is listed
in the lease best efforts to do so but

1280
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:31,760
the uh consult consultation process in
order to have a marine outfall with a

1281
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:36,719
number of first nations that are um
interested in in in the marine outfall

1282
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:40,600
was was pretty significant and it's it's
still not complete entirely.

1283
01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:48,320
» Yes, council.
>> So, does that affect our lease with the

1284
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:54,960
couch and tribes
as as you know using the river will if

1285
01:42:52,400 --> 01:43:01,600
we put a stop to this which obviously we
have to um how does that affect moving

1286
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:05,119
forward?
>> Yeah, thanks for the question. the the

1287
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:10,159
lease just talks about the city and
North Couch and well the JB itself which

1288
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:14,560
is an entity and of itself which uh
we're all cauter in both CBRD and couch

1289
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:18,880
and tribes all cost share in it but with
the lease talks about making best

1290
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:22,480
efforts and we're continue to do so we
don't have enough funds to construct it

1291
01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:27,920
right now it's it's just that expensive
of a project so um you know it would

1292
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:30,880
depend on the discussions with couch and
as to whether they feel like we're

1293
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:34,520
making best efforts and discussions
around that. So,

1294
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:41,679
» any other questions, comments? Seeing
none, I'm going to start to read this

1295
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,119
out. The council directs staff to
undertake the following in relation to

1296
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:50,000
the joint utilities board sewage
treatment plant outfall relocation

1297
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:54,159
project. Advise the Union of British
Columbia Municipalities that North Couch

1298
01:43:51,600 --> 01:44:00,639
and Duncan will not be rescoping the job
SDP outfall relocation project in order

1299
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:04,960
to retain the 6 million of UBCM funding.
two, continue to work to secure the

1300
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:10,320
balance of the new building Canada fund
funding. If the NBCF funding is secured,

1301
01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:15,040
staff will complete the design. Or B, if
the NBCF funding is not secured, staff

1302
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:19,280
will come back to the job for
recommended direction as to whether to

1303
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:22,960
continue or not continue to the design.
Three, seek new funding through the

1304
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:27,520
build community strong fund or any other
funding that may be applicable to fund

1305
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:30,639
the construction of the project. A if
staff are not successful in obtaining

1306
01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:34,719
additional funding for the construction
of the project

1307
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:38,560
then staff will come back to the JUB for
recommendation direction related to the

1308
01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:43,520
construction phase of the project. Four,
draft a letter to the province of BC and

1309
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:46,480
Canada for from the mayor of North Couch
and mayor of the city of Duncan, the

1310
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:50,239
board chair of the Couch and Valley
Regional District and the chief of couch

1311
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:54,560
and tribes to send providing an update
around the project funding and

1312
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:57,679
requesting support for funding to
complete the design and construction for

1313
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:02,719
this project to include the following
points. A, if we are able to retain the

1314
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:06,719
NBCF funding, we will complete the
acquisition of approvals and design with

1315
01:45:04,719 --> 01:45:11,440
the intent of requesting additional
funding to construct the project. And B,

1316
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:15,520
if we are unable to retain the NBCF
funding, we will stop the design

1317
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:21,840
process. Is there a mover and a seconder
for that? Any further discussion?

1318
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:26,639
I absolutely hate that we're here after
all of these years and all of this time.

1319
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:32,000
I mean, I can't even imagine how many
thousands of hours has been spent on

1320
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:36,960
this. Um,
yeah, and all of the other repercussions

1321
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:43,280
of it. So, it is with great duress that
I call the motion on this. All those in

1322
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:48,159
favor? Any opposed? Motion carries.
Thank you very much. And we'll move down

1323
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:51,679
to reports. Are there any council
members who wish to make a report this

1324
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:58,239
evening? Councelor Caps. Anyone else?
Councelor Duncan. Going once, going

1325
01:45:54,080 --> 01:46:02,880
twice. Councelor Caps, over to you.
>> Thank you. Um, it's been too long. We've

1326
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:07,840
had a meeting since the FCM, so I won't
go I won't speak to that, I don't think.

1327
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:11,920
But, uh, the most one of the most
exciting things recently was getting to

1328
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:16,239
take part in the amazing race cowin um,
with our team for the city, Mayor

1329
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:19,840
Staples and Mr. Deverai, Miss McMilliam.
And it was a really cool experience. 19

1330
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:22,880
different challenges uh, and 14
different teams, different organizations

1331
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:26,639
and businesses. and we got to go all
over the valley and do some really cool

1332
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:31,520
activities and I learned about even a
couple of places that I didn't know

1333
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:36,320
existed before. Um, and we learned that
uh I'm really bad at hula hooping and

1334
01:46:33,679 --> 01:46:41,280
Mr. Dvertai is even worse. Uh, but we're
all really good at bowling. So, that was

1335
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:44,159
really fun. Uh, fantastic. Really cool.
I'm really grateful to everyone that

1336
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:48,320
helped organize that and uh it was
really really awesome to participate in

1337
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:51,520
that. Uh, interestingly enough, on a lot
of the clues we were given, it said for

1338
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:54,400
this one you're heading back to Duncan.
Uh but not a single one of the

1339
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:58,480
challenges was actually within Duncan's
borders. So hopefully next year we see

1340
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:03,119
some Duncan businesses and organizations
um taking parts. It was super fun. And

1341
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:07,199
then yesterday along with uh again Miss
McWilliam and Councelor Duncan and I

1342
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:12,320
believe councelor Newington was there as
well uh attended the Couch and Pride

1343
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:18,480
Society parade and festival and it was
super fun, really nice, high energy day.

1344
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:21,440
Um, lots of uh lots of again like really
cool community organizations and

1345
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:24,639
businesses were out supporting and
individuals and families. And I thought

1346
01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:27,840
it was really sweet because it was also
uh as well as being indigenous people's

1347
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:31,600
day, it was also Father's Day. And I saw
a couple of really sweet t-shirts of uh

1348
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:34,639
of some dads that were there. Things
like free dad hugs and and things like

1349
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:37,199
that, which is really nice. So, a lot of
people brought their brought their dads

1350
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:42,320
to Pride, which I think is very sweet
and wholesome. Uh, and it was yeah, a

1351
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:47,920
really nice family event downtown.
And what else? I think that's about it.

1352
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,480
Yeah, that's it for me. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Councelor Caps. Councelor

1353
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:53,119
Duncan,
>> thank you. Yeah, I missed the last

1354
01:47:51,840 --> 01:48:00,320
meeting, but just a couple of points
from the FCM. I went on a tour uh out to

1355
01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:04,800
the suburbs. Uh definitely a lot of
construction going on around Edmonton.

1356
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:09,520
Uh but I don't know if it's affordable
housing. Uh people talk about affordable

1357
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:14,239
housing. These are town houses and
condos that are starting at $500,000.

1358
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:18,159
So, I don't know too many people
starting out that unless they've got

1359
01:48:16,159 --> 01:48:21,119
some help or win the lottery, they're
going to be able to get too much

1360
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:26,480
affordable housing for that price. But
also on that note, the new NDP leader

1361
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:31,199
Avi Lewis spoke and he spoke about
affordable housing. uh one of the things

1362
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:34,400
he said is that you know we actually the
government actually has to start

1363
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:39,920
building the houses instead of giving
the money to developers so that they can

1364
01:48:36,719 --> 01:48:44,800
build condos like the 4600 that are
sitting empty in Vancouver. Uh it's time

1365
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:49,760
to actually have the government assume
the role as the landlord, the builder,

1366
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:53,840
and take care of the tenants. That's the
only way we're going to get out of this

1367
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:59,360
mess as far as I'm concerned. Um, I also
attended it was like I guess you would

1368
01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:07,520
call it military week for me or I I was
at the uh 744 aircadet squadron annual

1369
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:13,520
re review uh and I was also at the
cadetses annual review and I was also at

1370
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:18,159
the army cadetses uh
standard review. But it was interesting

1371
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:23,840
because I was a CC cadet back in like
1970 or 71 and I actually found out from

1372
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:28,400
going to these that I was part of the
Fraser unit at the time. So because I

1373
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:32,560
remember that and it was nice to run
into a lot of these young kids and talk

1374
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:38,560
to them uh about the advantages of
taking taking up the education that the

1375
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:43,280
armed forces offered. You know uh in the
past one of my uh my ex-in-law he took

1376
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:48,800
that and you get four years of free
education. you give them three or four

1377
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:53,600
years back and you know away you go. So
certainly something there was as usual

1378
01:49:50,639 --> 01:50:00,679
there was two or three uh outstanding
cadetses uh that won a lot of the awards

1379
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,679
but it was great

1380
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:07,360
on the pride parade we had I counted the
booths it was 30 booths here so it was

1381
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:12,800
the equivalent of having another
Saturday market but there was tons of

1382
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:16,960
people in town so
>> that is so great to hear. I was really

1383
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:23,360
sad to miss the pride parade yesterday.
I was at work on Salt Spring on and off

1384
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:27,920
all week uh for my day job and we were
doing um something for indigenous

1385
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:35,920
people's day around understanding the
impacts of um colonization in Canada.

1386
01:50:31,679 --> 01:50:38,639
And so uh we were I was doing that and I
could not make it back in time but it

1387
01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:43,119
was great to see the pictures. Thanks
for sharing them.

1388
01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:49,440
And uh and one thing when after we were
at FCM, I I went uh and drove the

1389
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:54,880
prairies, which I've never done before,
and I went from Edmonton to Winnipeg.

1390
01:50:52,320 --> 01:51:01,040
And uh one of the things that really
surprised me, there was a number of

1391
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:07,679
things. One was though we we hear so
much and kind of going back to our um

1392
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:13,760
earlier motion or um about respect. We
hear so much negative discourse

1393
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:18,639
and so I sometimes think that you know
the world out there is more negative

1394
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:23,040
than it actually is. And so when I was
driving into these really tiny little

1395
01:51:20,719 --> 01:51:28,320
places, like it's my first time going
between Edmonton and and uh I've never

1396
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:33,679
been to Saskatchewan before, never been
to Manitoba before, and there's these

1397
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:39,840
tiny little towns, like tiny tiny tiny
little towns that I didn't even know a t

1398
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:43,760
a town could be that small. Um and and
going into those towns and there was not

1399
01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:52,320
one town that I went in where I did not
see a pride flag or a pride banner or a

1400
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:57,040
pride sign. Not one town. And
I would not because of the social

1401
01:51:54,560 --> 01:52:02,159
discourse that I am exposed to. I would
not have thought that. And I apologize

1402
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:06,480
to all of those provinces for my
ignorance on that. Um, but I would not

1403
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:12,719
have believed that based on the things
that I hear. And so I felt uh every time

1404
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:17,119
I would see one, I took a whole bunch of
pictures of them because I was just like

1405
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:22,000
there's, you know, yeah, there's this
comedian on SNL and I won't say exactly

1406
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:26,480
what he says, but
because I can't here, but one of the

1407
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:31,199
things that he talked about uh recently
was someone asked him how as a comedian

1408
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:36,239
did he not have a lot of rage about the
world? and he's American and he well

1409
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:39,920
says so that's obvious I guess but he
said I do he said but I'm a comedian so

1410
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:47,360
I get to share it that's part of what I
get to do and uh and then he he said but

1411
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:50,719
actually he said when you when you go
into some of those pockets you know the

1412
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:55,440
internet does a lot of good things I'm
not I use it all the time I use social

1413
01:52:53,520 --> 01:53:00,320
media all the time there's a lot of ways
that it connects people it does a lot of

1414
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:05,840
good for the world it also has a lot it
also has some negative little little

1415
01:53:02,639 --> 01:53:09,040
dark holes you can go down. And and he
said he said you he said when you go

1416
01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:12,400
down those dark holes, he said it's like
you're in you got to imagine like you're

1417
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:15,520
in an asylum. It's just like that it
pulls you into this hatred and and the

1418
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:20,000
worst possible things that could happen
in the world. He said but when I go

1419
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:23,599
travel across the states on tour, he
said that are those are not the people

1420
01:53:21,599 --> 01:53:27,920
that come and talk to me on the street.
Those are not the people that is not

1421
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:31,679
what I hear when I'm out in the world.
And it was sort of during this time that

1422
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:36,159
I was doing this traveling that I'd
heard that and I thought about that

1423
01:53:33,679 --> 01:53:43,599
because you know we hear we were in
Edmonton for what like five or six days

1424
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:48,639
and there was some you know there was a
lot of pride about being Canadian in

1425
01:53:45,199 --> 01:53:53,360
Edmonton in Alberta. There's a lot of
and and that's not again a lot of what

1426
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:58,880
we get to hear in in social media and
some of those dark holes and and as I

1427
01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:04,000
was sort of traveling through other
parts of the prairies too like I the

1428
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:08,480
same thing was just so apparent to me
that people are really um there was kind

1429
01:54:06,719 --> 01:54:11,760
of like a doubling down almost on this
pride of being Canadian which maybe

1430
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:14,719
that's there all the time. I don't know
because I haven't been there before but

1431
01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:18,960
it was definitely something that I heard
along the way. But then also this, you

1432
01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:23,280
know, this openness that mult like
places like Winnipeg are like incredibly

1433
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:28,000
multicultural.
I didn't know that living here. That's

1434
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:32,239
not what I hear. Right. And so it was
just it's good to travel in our own

1435
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:37,280
country as much as we can, but also it's
just a good reminder that, you know,

1436
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:42,159
there's it's easy for us to get taken
taken away down to these places that,

1437
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:48,320
you know, are not real to everyone. And
there's this whole other uh huge world

1438
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:52,719
and amazing people. Uh, everyone was so
friendly and accommodating and I ended

1439
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:57,520
up having some of the most amazing
experiences on that on that um that

1440
01:54:54,880 --> 01:55:04,159
little side road trip and people were
kind and generous and excited to share.

1441
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:08,639
Uh, I rented a car in Edmonton, but for
some reason it had BC plates and I

1442
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:13,520
didn't know that for the first like five
days and and everyone kept talking to me

1443
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:18,400
about being from BC and I was like, do I
just look like I'm from BC? And then I

1444
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:24,000
realized that I had a BC place on my
car. uh and and there's all this history

1445
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:26,800
in these spaces and and at the
conference that we were at, one of the

1446
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:33,440
things that they kept talking about was
sense of place and and all these places

1447
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:38,080
in that I saw are places that you know
were really vibrant and alive a long

1448
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:42,400
time ago and are undergoing massive
change and Edmonton like every city you

1449
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:47,679
go into it's just building and building
and building and building and and so I

1450
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:51,440
think in the next 10 years there's going
to be such a difference of the way that

1451
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:55,760
communities look in Canada because
there's so much money going into new new

1452
01:55:54,080 --> 01:56:00,719
builds and changing the way that the
cities are. And so I really appreciate

1453
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:04,800
that I got to kind of go and sit in
those places where, you know, that sense

1454
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:09,840
of place is still connected to a few
decades ago. And and you can see it

1455
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:13,040
starting to, you know, change and new
businesses and new people coming into

1456
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:17,440
these communities. And I don't know what
it'll look like. Um, but I'm happy that

1457
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:20,639
I got to see what it did look like and
as it's going through this transition

1458
01:56:18,719 --> 01:56:26,800
because I think that's important. It's
important for me to remember and uh and

1459
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:30,960
not to go down those those dark tunnels
and not to let them into the rest of the

1460
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:38,639
world either.
So that was part of my little journey

1461
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:43,040
down there. Um and I also at FCM
again had some excellent speakers. Uh

1462
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:47,599
Avi Lewis from the NDP and Elizabeth May
from the Green Party fantastic speakers.

1463
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:53,280
Uh Minister Gregor Robertson uh also
spoke. He did a session on housing which

1464
01:56:50,159 --> 01:56:57,280
was great and the uh chair Sagal and I
from the regional district got to have a

1465
01:56:55,040 --> 01:57:00,480
one-on-one for 45 minutes with um the
minister about the housing needs in our

1466
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:04,560
area. They're investing a lot of money
into infrastructure here. So it was a

1467
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:08,159
really productive meeting about the
needs of our region, not just the city,

1468
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:12,719
but you know homelessness is a regional
issue. It's not just our issue. And so

1469
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:16,320
it was good to have that um to have
those connections and looking forward to

1470
01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:23,679
some follow-ups
on that. And uh and then also you know

1471
01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:29,040
last week or just a few days ago I think
there was um the premier no the prime

1472
01:57:27,599 --> 01:57:34,560
minister was here with the premier and
minister Bole and they did the uh some

1473
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:39,280
announcements on looking at doing
something with condos around creating

1474
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:44,960
some sort of more affordable housing. So
I'm curious to see about what that uh

1475
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:49,040
what that brings. And I was also got to
meet with Minister Ma at the hospital.

1476
01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:51,840
um she came to do a a site tour of the
hospital again and we didn't get to go

1477
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:55,360
on the tour but we did get to visit
afterwards and also um speak to her

1478
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:59,679
about some of the infrastructure needs
that we have. So lots of great sort of

1479
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:03,679
you know those short meetings that
you're not anticipating and and great to

1480
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:09,440
have that long with um the Minister of
Housing federally. And then today I got

1481
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:18,639
a a message last night uh for an invite
to uh go to um an event with uh with

1482
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:23,280
Diana Fox Carney uh which was really
wonderful and I got to speak to her. I

1483
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:27,440
tried not to talk to her too much about
the things that we have because she's

1484
01:58:24,719 --> 01:58:30,880
not the, you know, she's not the um
prime minister, but but also just

1485
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:34,480
curious about some of the, you know,
some of her thoughts and really good to

1486
01:58:32,239 --> 01:58:39,280
hear about some of her thoughts about
uh, you know, what is happening and and

1487
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:43,119
what it's like from her perspective and
where Canada is at from the things that

1488
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:47,199
she sees. So, it was really just always
good to have those take those

1489
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:52,560
opportunities when we can to do that.
And uh because we're, you know, when you

1490
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:56,960
again just on reflecting on my travels,
we're we're huge. We're this massive

1491
01:58:54,960 --> 01:59:01,119
country, but we're also this really
small country. And so, I think that

1492
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:04,639
those connections are really important
because they connect all of us. And some

1493
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:10,159
of the best times we had were the
coasters, the Newfoundlanders and the

1494
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:15,599
Vancouver Island uh coming together to
really yeah celebrate and and uh have a

1495
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:20,560
lot of good laughs together. So it was
good good to make those those that time.

1496
01:59:18,639 --> 01:59:24,800
So much appreciated to everyone for
that. And uh with that we'll go into

1497
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:29,440
question period. I'm sure there's
thousands of questions people have right

1498
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:32,679
now for us after this meeting. So now's
your opportunity.

1499
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:38,480
I'm hearing nothing. So we'll go into
close that the meeting be closed to the

1500
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:41,679
public under the following sections of
the community charter to discuss matters

1501
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:46,960
related to personal information. Section
91A personal information about an

1502
01:59:44,639 --> 01:59:50,080
identifiable individual who holds or is
being considered for position as an

1503
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:55,119
officer, employee or agent of m of a
municipality or another position

1504
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:59,119
appointed by the municipality.
Is there a movement or second to do

1505
01:59:56,639 --> 02:00:02,800
that? Any further discussion? All those
in favor? We'll take five minutes and

1506
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:08,760
then we will come back and we will carry
on. And thanks for all of you for being

1507
02:00:05,199 --> 02:00:08,760
with us this evening.