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>> mayor freaney: good morning and welcome to the

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september 1st, 2026 -- how did it get to be

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september 1st? City commission workshop.

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I want to call thepeting to order -- call the meeting to

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order. And before we start, I'll let

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jen do this. You're going to have a moment of

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siwill knows. You're going to do that?

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okay. And our pledge of allegiance.

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and I'll go to jen. If we would just stand.

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>> let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silbs

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and turning our -- silence and turning our thoughts to the

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family of former mayor bob hackworth.

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[moment of silence] amen.

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[pledge of allegiance] >> mayor freaney: okay, and just

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to reiterate, our thoughts continue to go out to former

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mayor bob hackworth's wife gwen and his son bobby and his

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daughter maddie that chi they d of go a new way and we're with

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them and I know a celebration of life has been set, so that'll be

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out there, so okay. We have, we're missing two of

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our comrades today. And one is out of town on a

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contract that he had to be at, and then the other one I think

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is returning from out of the country, so he might be in

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flight right now so if I could have a motion to excuse vice

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mayor walker and commissioner dugard.

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>> so moved. >> I just want the dramatic

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effect. [laughter]

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is all. Yeah.

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second. >> jen, there's actually,

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there's no motions or action taken I. Well, that's true.

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>> you don't even need to. >> why isn't there one?

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>> mayor freaney: I mean, because they have to --

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>> can we do it on thursday. >> mayor freaney: I guess we can

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do it on thursday because they have to have the excuse or

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otherwise they get dinged. Okay, we'll do it thursday.

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okay, well thanks a lot for that then, and -- yeah.

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[laughter] and yeah.

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the joke was on you I think. So yeah.

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and, and, and we don't have our city manager this morning, but

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we do have our deputy city manager, jorge quintas, so we'll

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try to be brutal on him. That's, you know, kind of --

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that's always our strategy. Okay so we got presentations.

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library card sign-up month. And commissioner sandbergen is

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going to, I'm going to turn that over to him for proclamation

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and -- >> phyllis, can we bring them

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?up. >> mayor freaney: got the whole

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team here today, look at them: she's got the famous dress

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on too. >> she does.

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>> you're going to be by yourself then.

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we'll recognize all of them. I appreciate the opportunity to

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read today's proclamation. In the rast year the library I

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knew it was important but it's even becomemore important to me

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personally. And as a city commissioner, on

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july 30th, I had a chance to read the end of summer with the

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dunedin blue jays, and I think it went absolutely incredible.

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you know, those little kids get to see these pro baseball

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players and realize august 15th I got to go to the

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summer reading challenge at td ballpark, and again, to

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recognize the kids for what they've done and to, you know,

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give our thumbs up to the library.

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and then on the 19th of august, kimberly was fortunate

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you know willing to come on toronto blue jays podcast with

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me and to talk about what the library means in the

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relationship with the blue jays and not just baseball on the

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field and it's exactly what the city needed.

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and lastly, over the weekend, I got to go read again with the

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juvenile welfare board. Is that what jwb?

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and firefighter joel ray and I and kimberly read to the kids.

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and I appreciate everything that this library and you all do for

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this community. >> mayor freaney: so before you

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read -- so is his writing skills getting better with all this or

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is that helping him? It's getting better?

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okay. >> I have to say thank you to

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kimberly because she gives me each page has about 10 words on

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it. [laughter]

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so I do, and I do, I appreciate it everything that you do and

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you know before I read this, I heard a word mentioned down

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there this weekend that really stuck with me, and I believe it

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was said by one of your staff members and it was to joe and I.

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trophist a young lady in -- there was a young lady therein

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that was asking questions and it was referred to as a spot where

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she feels safe. And you know that really landed

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with me. And I say it's bip discussed

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back there. It really made me feel something

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is as a city commissioner that the young people of our city can

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go in there and be safe. So with that being said,

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whereas, libraries, librarians, and library workers across the

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country are joining together to celebrate library card sign-up

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month for the month of september.

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and whereas, libraries are foundational to education,

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imagination, and opportunity, offering everything from early

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literacy programs to digital tools that support life long

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learning and personal growth. And whereas, libraries welcome

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all people serving as a community hub that connects

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individuals across cultures, generations, and experiences.

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and whereas, libraries contribute to thriving local

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economies, by equipping job seekers, entrepreneurs,

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students, and creators with tools and training to succeed

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and whereas in time of both crisis and calm, there we go,

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libraries and their staff remain steadfast in supporting and

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strengthening their communities. And whereas, libraries provide

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programming for kids, teens, and adults from storytime to book

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lubz clubs to crafts and entertainment.

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and whereas a library card offers a front row seat to

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everything the library offers, from books and technology to

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life long learning and online resources.

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and whereas, this month in 1996 marks the opening of the current

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library building a place that has served a as cornerstone of

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our community for over 30 years. Now I steven sandbergen and on

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behalf of the entire silty commission here proclaim

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september 2026 as library card sign-up month and encourage all

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residents to sign up for a library card.

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all yours, thank you. >> thank you.

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[applause] >> okay, I will say a few words.

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and I just want to recognize so thankful I have a lot of our

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staff here. We're going to try and get back

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in time to open the building, at 9:30.

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but I want to thank the whole team for being here today you

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know, the most important thing and about making our library

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feel safe and welcoming is the people that work at the library.

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and we are so lucky too because we have friends and we have

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foundation members and we have advisory members, some of them I

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tell them we don't pay for overtime for volunteering but

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thank you for their time so I do want to recognize.

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we have some of our members is inned audience, and we're so

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lucky -- in the audience, so we're so lucky to have all of

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them dedicating their time to the library.

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so library card sign-up month this is our big month to promote

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getting a library card and just in case someone hasn't been

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there in a while library cards do expire every three years, and

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so if you're overdue for a library card, please stop in and

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get one. And commissioner gow has his.

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I was going to card everybody that walked in but we'll leave

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that for later and when they do get library card, we have these

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lovely bags, library bags filled with good as so we really want

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to encourage everyone. This also marks our 30th

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anniversary in our building and winston churchill has a quote

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that we shape our buildings and afterwards our buildings shape

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us. We've a very special library,

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and we're so thankful for the support from our city and from

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all our residents that do visit so if you don't have a library

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card, please stop in and get one.

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we're so excited to welcome everyone, and thank you for

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recognizing us today. You all are welcome to read

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anytime, so we don't always have to put commissioner sandbergen

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on the spot but thank you again for recognizing us.

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and again, this is a big anniversary year, our 30th

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anniversary in our building. It's also the 30th anniversary

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of our contract with the sheriff's department and we also

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have a fire station that was built 30 years ago too, so that

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was a big-year, 1996. We are going to recognize our

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30th anniversary on friday, october 2nd, so we're going to

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have a display of photographs of the building, the demo, and

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you'll see the blue jays field right next door so we're so

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excited with them as our partners next door.

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the trailers that the library was in for about one years

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really fun for the staff to work in that.

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and then just some treats for all of our residents that stop

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by on friday, october 2nd. So thank you for recognizing us,

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expwr hope to see you all -- and I hope to see you all at the

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library. >> thank you very much.

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we love our library so I think we need rapicture.

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why doesn't everybody come up, so we can take a picture.

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everybody involved with library. >> staff?

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>> mayor, while we're doing that, may I.

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>> mayor freaney: sure. >> phyllis, I'm wondering if

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this was intended for jennifer not me, I have a sticker that

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says I like books more than people.

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[laughter] >> me too.

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>> mayor freaney: I know quite a few people like that actually.

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[laughter] >> would you like us all to

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stand here. >> mayor freaney: yeah come on

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up here. >> cay, everybody.

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let's get close. >> yeah, let's get a few people

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in the front. A few people in the front.

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let's see. Scoot in a little bit.

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>> getting cozy on the left. You better do it on the right.

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>> all right, everyone, ready? Say library.

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>> okay, thank you. >> thank you.

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>> mayor freaney: go get that library open.

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we love you guys though. You did awesome job, and we

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appreciate all you do. I think that's the year we

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started ems too, so library, sheriff, and ems we took back

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ems, so. >> 30 years.

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>> mayor freaney: 30 years, yeah, that wads a big year.

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yeah. I think there's a few pictures

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of me looking a lot younger. [laughter]

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hopefully not too bad, yeah. All right.

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well, I'm feeling better now that I know that commissioner

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sandbergen's getting a lot of good reading skill training,

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yeah. [laughter]

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>> you read that proclamation very well.

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>> mayor freaney: yeah, you read that very well so it's obvious

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you're. >> well, they've been working

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with me down there. [laughter]

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>> you've probably had that for like a month, going over.

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because I, you know, dare I say, because it's the talk of the

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news, is dolly parton, and how important she was to literacy

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but you know let's face it, the more literate our kids are,

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that's everything. >> I wasn't making that up about

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this young girl that came in and she was kind of troubled and

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she, and they said that this is where she feels safe and that

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really hit home with me. So I'm sorry to have

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interrupted. >> mayor freaney: no, I think

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that's so important. And we have great library staff,

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so. All right, so let's move on to

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citizen input. Anyone in the audience wish to

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speak on a topic that is not on the agenda?

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[laughter] okay, she's trying to hide too.

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because she's like -- hey, okay. All right.

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so we'll move on from that. You don't want to talk about the

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30th year of the sheriff office julia or --

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okay we're going to go to something really exciting,

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right, whit. Which is forward pinellas update

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on tri-county mpo merger. And we're going to do I guess

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nicole you want me to go right to whit blanton is here of

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forward pinellas. And so I'm going to let you take

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it. Whit.

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>> all right. >> mayor freaney: thank you for

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being here. >> thank you so much for having

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me. Whit blant blanton, executive r

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of forward pinellas. I appreciate a little time on

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your agenda today because I'm going to talk about some fairly

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big items that we're dealing with, both regionally and

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county-wide. And I think it's important for

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the city of dunedin to weigh in and let me know what you think

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and give me some guidance as we move forward.

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so I do have a powerpoint presentation that I think's set

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up and I can just quickly go through.

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there we go. There we go.

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so we're going to talk about the proposed mergen of our three

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metropolitan planning organizations that serve the

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tampa bay area. And I want to say before we

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start that we're a little bit of an outlier nationally because

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the norm is that yu have a metropolitan planning

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organization authorized by congress that serves a single

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urbanized area. Well we like them so much we

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have three serving our single urbanized area, and not many

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places other than a couple do that so in fact atlanta I think

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has 20 counties in their mpo, and chicago has many and dallas

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like 15 so we are different. So I think I push down.

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there we go. So just a little bit about

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forward pinellas. We are unique organization.

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we have two legal organizations under us, forward pinellas is a

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fictitious name, we are the pinellas planning council, which

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is created by a special act of the florida legislature which

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handles land use, decision making county-wide.

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set a framework that all 25 local governments have to fit

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within. And then we are the metropolitan

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planning organization designated by federal law and reinforced by

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state statute. And together we have a single

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governing board that covers land use and transportation decision

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making countywide, and that's pretty unique in the state of

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florida. Nobody has a setup exactly like

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this us. And it's been 11 years since I

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was hired to facilitate the merger of this organization and

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we have evolved a lot. And I think that's an important

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point to keepind mine as we talk about the merger of the mpo.

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this is our board we have 19 members, thank you, mayor

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freaney for serving on this board.

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we actually are down to 18, commissioner eisnor resigned.

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so we, we'll need a new tarpon springs appointment and they'll

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make that in september. So the regional mpo merger is a

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big deal because the legislature has gotten involved and like

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everything else in local government the legislature has a

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preference for how we do things. And one of the things that the

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legislative intent seems to be is that florida should have

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fewer mpos in the state of florida.

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we have 27. Not only does the tampa bay area

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have this legislative mandate to consider the feasibility of

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merging, which we, we did in response to 2023 legislation,

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it's now covering charlotte, lee, and collier counties as

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well. And there are multicounty mpos

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in the state of floriday but there are also lot of county

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based mpos. The motivation for creating a

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single regional transportation planning organization is that

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this region is growing, and the organizations that serve the

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region need to evolve with that growth of the region.

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for years, we've been requested by the governor of the state of

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florida going back to 1990 that we should merge.

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and since that time we've always said well pasco is different,

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hillsborough is different, pinellas is unique, we have so

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many differences, it really doesn't make any sense to merge.

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and we still have a lot of differences in the counties and

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how we work, but the traveling public cares less and less and

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as housing becomes less affordable people are moving to

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pasco county and they're still úworking in our counties.

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people are moves to the fringes of hillsborough county and

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they're still working in pinellas county and we are not

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creating anymore beach. People are still coming here and

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even though we're adding two miffial people over the --

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million people over the next 25 years to our region they are

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still coming for entertainment and fun and all the things that

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attract people this is really important because transportation

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is competitive when it comes down to funding.

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we have formula based funds that are based on population, but the

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real heavy hitting dollars that can move a region's needle are

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going to be in the grants that are competitive whether it's

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and 75% of florida's transportation trust fund which

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is $15 billion or so, is allocated to what we call the

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strategic intermodal system. And that's u.s. 19 here in this

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county, it's the interstate system, and we compete against

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every region for those dollars. We have to have a really good

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project, a really good ask and we need to be unified that's a

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project we want. When we have three mpos

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serving three counties, sometimes it's hard to be

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unified saying this is the number one priority or the

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number two priority. Over the last year, we have

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hired a -- consultant that has been working with us to guide us

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through the evolution of the organizations.

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and we have looked at the culture of each organization.

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we have looked at how each one operates.

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the structure, the decision making process, and we've

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developed a full suite of reports and bylaws and

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interlocal agreements that will now be presented next week to

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our board at a workshop and today it's actually being

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presented at the hillsborough mpo and later this afternoon at

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the pasco mpo for their consideration.

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so we get to hear what they talk about first.

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this is the population based on 2020.

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and this is important because by federal and state statute, the

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governing board of the mpo must be apportioned by population.

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and you can deviate a little bit but you need to be pretty

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consistent with that population allocation.

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we are the second largest county in the region, but we are also

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the slowest growing county in the region, and so over time, we

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do expect pasco county to get closer to a million and

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hillsborough is going to be at 2.5 million in the next 25

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years. So that does affect the

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allocation of seats. So as we look at the

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apportionment plan, we have recommended a body that has 25

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members compared to 19 that we have today in forward pinellas,

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that would include the port and the airport.

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port tampa bay and then the tampa international airport as

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voting members. They are already voting members

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in hillsborough county, so we wouldn't be taking anything away

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or adding anything new. It would just be keeping that

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consistent. And they would not be reflect --

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represented by elected officials.

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they would be represented by their ceos.

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or designee. And then the remaining 23 seats

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would be allocated by population.

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the rationale is that those two organizations are regional

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organizations. If you get your gas at a gas

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station, it comes through port tamp obey and 44% -- tampa bay,

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and 44% of the emplainments at the airport have a origination

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at pinellas county so that's significant.

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the hillsborough county delegation would have 10

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representatives comprising tampa, hillsborough county,

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temple terrace, plant city, the expressway authority.

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pinellas would have eight representatives.

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the way that allocation is currently shown is two for the

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county commission, two for the city of st. Petersburg, and then

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one seat for every city over 50,000 population, and then one

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rotating seat for smaller local governments.

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that does have an implication for dunedin because you have a

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voting seat today on the forward pinellas mpo board, you would

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not have an as of right seat on the regional mpo but you may

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have a voting seat. And then pasco would have --

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>> can you say that again? But we may have a voting seat?

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>> you may because you may be one of the smaller rotating

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cities. >> hmm.

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>> and there are some other mechanisms that we could look at

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as well. >> mayor freaney: yeah, but that

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decision hasn't been totally made.

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>> it has not been voted on. >> mayor freaney: I just wanted

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to. >> that's still a tentative

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decision. >> I don't want my hairs to

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start popping out. >> staff recommendation.

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I understand. We have had this conversation.

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>> mayor freaney: yes, we have. >> and then we would have the

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transit agencies as nonvoting advisors, today the transit

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agencies do vote on the mpos. That was a decision we made

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early on mainly to ensure we stay under the 25 member cap

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because that is enshrined in florida statute so we can't go

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over that without changing statutes.

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so as I mentioned, we have put together this is no longer under

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development. We have actually completed a

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draft set of bylaws interlocal agreement, a memrandm of

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understanding -- memorandum of understanding, a staffing plan,

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an org chart, and a financial plan for the organization.

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what's interesting is today we are hosted by the pinellas

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planning council, that's my other land use agency, and it's

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important that we think about how the mpo operates and

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functions because rarely is an mpo a stand alone agency.

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it does happen, but all the funds coming to an mpo are

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federal funds. So it's no local funds, it's all

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federal. But the pinellas planning

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council is the host agency because I only get the federal

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funds every quarter and in the meantime I have to pay staff, I

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have to pay rent, I have to do those things so we need a float

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and that comes from the millage levy that the pinellas planning

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council has on county-wide residents.

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it's not very much but it does provide that float so thalt we

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can operate, and then the federal funds reimburse the

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pinellas planning council. The hillsborough mpo is

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funded -- is hosted by the planning commission, and then

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pasco is hosted by pasco county government.

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we are proposing a more independent mpo that would not

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be hosted by any of the three counties or by any city.

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the goal would be it would be an independent organization that

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contracts out certain services like hr, benefits, maybe I.t.

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and other back office functions, but that the board would be,

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have oversight over the executive director and the

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executive director would have oversight of an independent

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staff and I think that's critically important because

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there is a little bit of a tug-of-war that has been going

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on in tampa bay about responsibilities and roles and

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leadership, and if you have an organization hosted by

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hillsborough county, is it a merger or is it a takeover?

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and I think they would think the same thing if it was hosted by

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pinellas county. So we have kind of settled on

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let's make an this independent organization.

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it could be hosted by an independent special district so

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those are options. The airport is an independent

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special district. The hillsborough aviation

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authority. Psta is an independent special

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district. They could be a host agency.

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the pinellas planning council could be a host agency so that

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has not been determined how that would function.

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so this all tieinize to and I'm going to come back to the mpo

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merger in a minute. I know you have a lot of

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questions about it. This ties into the pinellas

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planning council special act because it is an act of the

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legislature and when the two organizations were merged it

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said the mpo for pinellas county shall have the same board as the

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pinellas planning council. So if we merge the mpos and we

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dedesignate the pinellas mpo it doesn't exist anymore, and now

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the pinellas planning council to consider land use cases.

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so I have been working with the legislative delegation to find a

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sponsor to amend our special act, and last year, or last

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time, in 2010 it took five years to accomplish this and I'm

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hoping to pull this off in one year.

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so we have been working with a subcommittee of the board that

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wrapped up its final meeting this week or last week, and has

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developed a set of recommendations, and those

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recommendations would address the merger of the mpo and also a

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few streamlining issuess related to the pinellas planning

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council. So the ppc sets broad policy

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framework for land use in pinellas county.

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its governance as I mentioned is, is the mpo.

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so what we have come up with is a, an if then statement that

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says if the mpo is merged, then the pinellas planning council

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would revert to a 13-member board representing the cities

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and the county here in pinellas county.

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it would be one seat for the county commission, one seat for

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the city of st. Petersburg, d unn -- dunedin would have a

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voting seat on the board, directly not a rotating seat,

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and then there would be some rotating seats for the very

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smaller cities and the beach communities for instance.

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but a 13-member board. The pinellas planning council

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provides lot of services and we have provide should here to the

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city of dunedin. We're actually working with your

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staff on the downtown master plan update so that's happening

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now and we provide a lot of techical assistance around the

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county to help people visualize development changes, whether

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it's increases in density, or a new parking structure or changes

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in your transportation network. So what the board has done is

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also recommended a series of streamlining steps so that the

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organization evolves with pinellas county and what that

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means is it used to be that the pinellas planning council was a

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very regulatory minded organization that if you wanted

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to do something here in the city of dunedin you had to check with

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us and pasco and jump through a lot of hurdles and then we might

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still say you didn't do enough. We have moved away from that

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over the last 10 years, and have really tried to let cities be

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cities, and rather than saying no unless you do these five

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things, we've said how can we help you.

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and I think that's been a big difference.

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so we hope to continue that and expect to continue the linkage

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formally between the pinellas planning council and the

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regional mpo to address land issues and transportation

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linkages going forward. We haven't really figured out

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exactly how that linkage will take shape, but we look at the

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pinellas planning council potentially being a formal

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advisory body to the regional mpo on issues affecting pinellas

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county. And I think that's, I can there

480
00:28:01,716 --> 00:28:04,919
is support for doing that regionally.

481
00:28:04,919 --> 00:28:08,656
I don't expect you to read all this but just to know that I do

482
00:28:08,656 --> 00:28:13,261
is a bill sponsor potentially, and by november, we need to have

483
00:28:13,261 --> 00:28:18,661
that language drafted and ready for the legislative delegation

484
00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:20,468
to meet. The session meets in march and I

485
00:28:20,468 --> 00:28:23,500
would love to be able to pair this with anything moving

486
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:27,675
forward on the regional mpo. Now before I wrap up I do need

487
00:28:27,675 --> 00:28:34,275
to say that today at the hillsborough tpo meeting or mpo

488
00:28:34,615 --> 00:28:36,683
meeting state representative michael owen is in attendance

489
00:28:36,683 --> 00:28:39,154
and he has issued a statement that I read this morning that

490
00:28:39,154 --> 00:28:43,290
says he is prepared to file a bill to force the merger if the

491
00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:46,427
local entities can't agree on doing that.

492
00:28:46,427 --> 00:28:49,297
and he would prefer that the locals make the decision.

493
00:28:49,297 --> 00:28:53,568
how that decision is made is there are four principles

494
00:28:53,568 --> 00:28:57,371
involved including the governor of the state of florida and that

495
00:28:57,371 --> 00:28:59,239
are the three board of county commissioners and the city of

496
00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:03,110
tampa is the largest organization l have to say yes

497
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:06,247
to this -- all have to say yes to this merger.

498
00:29:06,247 --> 00:29:09,500
the timeline of this is we have our workshop next week where we

499
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,721
will be getting feedback. We will take the feedback from

500
00:29:13,721 --> 00:29:16,590
the three mpos that happen this week or next week.

501
00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:21,462
and then we will have a leadership group of the regional

502
00:29:21,462 --> 00:29:23,931
entities on october 2nd. It's called the tma leadership

503
00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:26,801
group and we will present the feedback and we will see if

504
00:29:26,801 --> 00:29:31,939
there's a desire to make any changes in response to that

505
00:29:31,939 --> 00:29:33,340
feedback. Then we will simply present this

506
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:37,678
to the four principals and ask them to take it up whenever they

507
00:29:37,678 --> 00:29:42,830
are willing to do so. We're not sure if that'll happen

508
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:45,687
before the march election in the city of tampa or after that, but

509
00:29:45,687 --> 00:29:51,687
it'll happen sometime in 2027. When that happens, and if they

510
00:29:52,294 --> 00:29:55,960
vote in favor we transmit it to the governor and then the

511
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,930
governor either approves or sends it back for more work.

512
00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:59,367
if that happens then the governor approves it we have six

513
00:29:59,367 --> 00:30:01,969
months by law to stand up the mpo.

514
00:30:01,969 --> 00:30:05,324
so we have already created a set of personnel policies.

515
00:30:05,324 --> 00:30:08,727
we've created all these things to grease the wheels to make it

516
00:30:08,727 --> 00:30:11,664
easy. The bylaws for the mpo have some

517
00:30:11,664 --> 00:30:17,664
provisions in there that I think are important to share.

518
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:21,406
so one cerb that I have heard -- concern that I have heard

519
00:30:21,406 --> 00:30:23,742
consistently and that the growth and population are in tampa and

520
00:30:23,742 --> 00:30:26,945
hillsborough county and they will, there are concerns that

521
00:30:26,945 --> 00:30:30,215
they will make a power play to take the money and put it on

522
00:30:30,215 --> 00:30:32,840
projects that benefit hillsborough and tampa.

523
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,870
I'm here to tell you they can't do that.

524
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:38,624
the florida department of transportation is required to

525
00:30:38,624 --> 00:30:42,940
make sure its five-year work program is equitable according

526
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:45,970
to population in each county. So in the course of that

527
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:46,899
five-year period they have to ensure that we get our fair

528
00:30:46,899 --> 00:30:50,835
share of dollars for transportation projects, even if

529
00:30:50,835 --> 00:30:53,839
the top 10 priority projects are all in tampa.

530
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,375
they will skip over one through nine and then they will go to

531
00:30:57,375 --> 00:31:01,980
number 11 which is pipellas just to make sure we're equal.

532
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:06,985
in any one year there might be a skew and I will give you an

533
00:31:06,985 --> 00:31:08,720
example of that. The forward pinellas board and

534
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,570
the pinellas county commission were first to say the number one

535
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:15,594
project in the region is the interchange by the tampa airport

536
00:31:15,594 --> 00:31:19,130
where I-275, state road 60, and the veterans expressway all

537
00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:20,666
converge. We got letters from around the

538
00:31:20,666 --> 00:31:23,200
region. We made it the number one region

539
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,602
priority. That project is under

540
00:31:24,602 --> 00:31:27,200
construction now at $1.6 billion.

541
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:29,141
that's all in hillsborough county.

542
00:31:29,141 --> 00:31:31,410
but that directly benefits pinellas county.

543
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:34,547
so in one year tmight look like they're getting a lot of money

544
00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:39,218
but over the next five years we have u.s. 19, we have I-275, we

545
00:31:39,218 --> 00:31:42,687
have a lot of other projects that are in the pipeline in the

546
00:31:42,687 --> 00:31:45,157
five-year work program serving pinellas county.

547
00:31:45,157 --> 00:31:48,760
in addition to that, we've put in some provisions in the

548
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,431
interlocal agreement that would require a not only a majority

549
00:31:52,431 --> 00:31:56,901
vote of this regional board but a majority of each delegation so

550
00:31:56,901 --> 00:32:00,505
that everybody supports it. That would require a state

551
00:32:00,505 --> 00:32:02,907
statute change so we know that, we're keeping a running list of

552
00:32:02,907 --> 00:32:05,778
where the legislature should be involved.

553
00:32:05,778 --> 00:32:10,716
and in addition I've also heard some concerns that, and I should

554
00:32:10,716 --> 00:32:14,886
say, that with the apportionment plan that we've settled on with

555
00:32:14,886 --> 00:32:18,923
eight pinellas and five pasco, that would give us 13 combined,

556
00:32:18,923 --> 00:32:24,395
and that outweighs the 10 or 12 if you count the port and the

557
00:32:24,395 --> 00:32:27,332
airport as hillsborough so it does kind of give a little bit

558
00:32:27,332 --> 00:32:31,203
of a buffer assuming that tampa and hillsborough vote in

559
00:32:31,203 --> 00:32:33,406
lockstep which they really don't.

560
00:32:33,406 --> 00:32:38,477
in addition to that, we've created in the bylaws an

561
00:32:38,477 --> 00:32:41,800
executive committee that does look like tampa bay water, which

562
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,283
is a concern that I've heard from some folks that we need to

563
00:32:45,283 --> 00:32:49,880
have equal representation among the three counties, so we have a

564
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,624
chair, a vice chair, and a treasurer that would all be from

565
00:32:52,624 --> 00:32:56,962
the three different delegations, and is then we've added two or

566
00:32:56,962 --> 00:32:59,764
an at-large member from each county, so that would be six and

567
00:32:59,764 --> 00:33:03,350
that would be two, two, and two. They would have to be, that

568
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:05,104
would be equal like tampa bay water.

569
00:33:05,104 --> 00:33:09,541
one of those at-large or one of those representatives on the

570
00:33:09,541 --> 00:33:12,310
executive committee must represent the city of tampa, and

571
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:16,648
another must represent a city in pinellas county.

572
00:33:16,648 --> 00:33:19,586
irrespective of size. So that could be dunedin for

573
00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:22,586
example on the executive committee.

574
00:33:22,788 --> 00:33:27,192
so that 2, 2, and 2 gives I think a balance to those who say

575
00:33:27,192 --> 00:33:30,462
we should create a board more like tampa bay water.

576
00:33:30,462 --> 00:33:32,998
I'll stop there and see what questions you have.

577
00:33:32,998 --> 00:33:37,336
again, the timeline of this is sometime in 2027 to ask for a

578
00:33:37,336 --> 00:33:42,136
vote ideally before the legislature starts meeting in

579
00:33:42,274 --> 00:33:44,209
march. And then or take it during the

580
00:33:44,209 --> 00:33:47,809
session before any bills get passed.

581
00:33:48,147 --> 00:33:52,351
and then we would expect the mpo to begin functioning

582
00:33:52,351 --> 00:33:54,820
july 1st of 2028 so we have a few more years.

583
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:57,156
nobody's made any decisions about who the executive director

584
00:33:57,156 --> 00:34:01,694
would be and I'm certainly not making any assumptions about

585
00:34:01,694 --> 00:34:03,561
that. But the org chart does call for

586
00:34:03,561 --> 00:34:07,432
an executive director and two deputy executive directors which

587
00:34:07,432 --> 00:34:09,768
I think would be a good way to transition into this because I

588
00:34:09,768 --> 00:34:14,390
don't know pasco that well, and I'd only know hillsborough a

589
00:34:14,390 --> 00:34:18,109
little bit and they don't know pinellas so that would provide a

590
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:20,450
seamless transition. And thank you for your time and

591
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:23,115
opportunity and I'll open up to questions, concerns, comments.

592
00:34:23,115 --> 00:34:23,848
>> mayor freaney: okay, questions.

593
00:34:23,848 --> 00:34:26,585
I do think you're a logical choice though, just saying.

594
00:34:26,585 --> 00:34:28,520
okay. So questions I'll start over

595
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,720
here with commissioner gow. >> thank you, mayor.

596
00:34:33,258 --> 00:34:34,994
whit, thank you very much for being here.

597
00:34:34,994 --> 00:34:38,396
I know I did ask you before the meeting but now that we're on

598
00:34:38,396 --> 00:34:42,267
camera I'll ask again. You didn't ride your bike here

599
00:34:42,267 --> 00:34:44,403
this morning. >> no, I didn't but I do commute

600
00:34:44,403 --> 00:34:48,874
to work pretty regularly so I'll make an effort next time.

601
00:34:48,874 --> 00:34:50,800
>> very good. Thank you very much and you

602
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,847
always do make an effort. A lot of, a lot of questions,

603
00:34:54,847 --> 00:34:59,918
whit. I'm glad to hear that there is a

604
00:34:59,918 --> 00:35:04,118
balance between pinellas and pasco versus hillsborough.

605
00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:11,430
and you and at the beginning you had mentioned there are several

606
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:14,766
regional mpos. And I understand the concept of

607
00:35:14,766 --> 00:35:18,303
a regional mpo in theory and in discussion.

608
00:35:18,303 --> 00:35:24,303
but in practice, how well do all those different municipalities

609
00:35:26,111 --> 00:35:28,247
or regions representatives, how well do they really work

610
00:35:28,247 --> 00:35:30,181
together in those other regional?

611
00:35:30,181 --> 00:35:33,519
>> that's a great question. We took a field trip to orlando

612
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,987
where they have a three-county mpo and I spent most of my

613
00:35:35,987 --> 00:35:40,726
career in orlando, and our board members we brought a bunch ofory

614
00:35:40,726 --> 00:35:44,996
board members there from all three mpos and they talked to

615
00:35:44,996 --> 00:35:50,936
city, county, elected officials, and I think our delegation was

616
00:35:50,936 --> 00:35:55,273
incredibly impressed about how, how much trust and confidence

617
00:35:55,273 --> 00:35:58,877
they had that their voices would be heard and are spected in

618
00:35:58,877 --> 00:36:00,413
that -- respected in that process and we had people from

619
00:36:00,413 --> 00:36:02,880
the city of maitland in the room.

620
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,217
maitland is 14,000 people. We had representatives from the

621
00:36:05,217 --> 00:36:08,817
city of winter garden, that's 20,000 people.

622
00:36:09,221 --> 00:36:10,355
and they felt like they were heard.

623
00:36:10,355 --> 00:36:14,240
what orlando has done is they've created a municipal advisory

624
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,378
committee that is comprised of the elected officials, it

625
00:36:17,378 --> 00:36:19,514
started out being a mayor's advisory committee but they've

626
00:36:19,514 --> 00:36:23,717
changed it a little bit. That represents all the local

627
00:36:23,717 --> 00:36:26,720
governments, the cities that are not in a voting position on

628
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,550
their board. And they elect somebody to serve

629
00:36:29,550 --> 00:36:31,992
on that board. We've chose analytal bit

630
00:36:31,992 --> 00:36:33,861
different model -- chosen a little bit different model but

631
00:36:33,861 --> 00:36:36,731
we have not precluded the notion of a municipal advisory

632
00:36:36,731 --> 00:36:40,267
committee. All the cities in pasco county

633
00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,100
are under 20,000 population, they don't have that many I

634
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:47,401
think they have six, temple terrace and hillsborough county

635
00:36:47,674 --> 00:36:51,120
is 20,000 people, plant city is about the size of dunedin.

636
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,680
so those you know dynamics are really important to pinellas

637
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:01,487
because we have so many smaller cities so they feel like the

638
00:37:01,487 --> 00:37:03,222
works really well. I can't speak for everybody.

639
00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:06,260
tallahassee is a multicounty mpo they cover four counties.

640
00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:08,562
they just don't have that many cities outside of tallahassee

641
00:37:08,562 --> 00:37:13,166
they get really small. But it's important that you have

642
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:16,303
a mechanism for are those to be heard and I think what I've told

643
00:37:16,303 --> 00:37:19,906
people generally is that we need an organization that can

644
00:37:19,906 --> 00:37:24,444
telescope between these big regional issues and these small

645
00:37:24,444 --> 00:37:26,112
granular issues like what you did for skinner boulevard out

646
00:37:26,112 --> 00:37:27,647
here. That's not necessarily a

647
00:37:27,647 --> 00:37:29,315
regionally significant project even though it's a state road

648
00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:32,586
but it's a super significant project to the city of dunedin.

649
00:37:32,586 --> 00:37:35,389
and we worked with you very closely on that and very proud

650
00:37:35,389 --> 00:37:38,459
of what you were able to accomplish.

651
00:37:38,459 --> 00:37:44,464
I don't see that changing. We have in the org chart created

652
00:37:44,464 --> 00:37:46,466
I'm trying to remember I think they're county liaison

653
00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:49,466
positions. One for each county.

654
00:37:49,736 --> 00:37:52,205
and that person whoever is selected would be responsible

655
00:37:52,205 --> 00:37:56,142
for working with the local governments and ensuring that we

656
00:37:56,142 --> 00:38:02,142
have the pulse of what's going on in each community.

657
00:38:02,883 --> 00:38:04,818
>> well said. You must've rehearsed that.

658
00:38:04,818 --> 00:38:08,418
very good. >> it's a common question.

659
00:38:09,222 --> 00:38:14,360
>> yeah, what is, you got the, I'm showing the list of

660
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,970
potential member numbers,. >> I can back up to that in the

661
00:38:18,970 --> 00:38:18,898
presentation. >> page 10.

662
00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,367
right? In the rotating smaller cities I

663
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:26,367
guess that would be where city of dunedin would lie.

664
00:38:27,307 --> 00:38:29,709
how is that decision going to be made?

665
00:38:29,709 --> 00:38:34,848
who going to make that decision on whether that really is

666
00:38:34,848 --> 00:38:37,717
representation or is there a way for dunedin to get a permanent

667
00:38:37,717 --> 00:38:39,119
seat? >> well, we are recommending

668
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,724
that the pinellas planning council board make that

669
00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:46,125
decision. Again, that would be dunedin

670
00:38:46,125 --> 00:38:48,128
would have a voting seat on that board.

671
00:38:48,128 --> 00:38:51,597
there would only be one seat for the county commission.

672
00:38:51,597 --> 00:38:55,736
so the one thing, and I, I know I'm on the record here but I

673
00:38:55,736 --> 00:38:58,605
really don't want the pinellas county commission to decide who

674
00:38:58,605 --> 00:39:02,141
that one small city seat is. That would be another model, and

675
00:39:02,141 --> 00:39:03,811
we have not even considered that.

676
00:39:03,811 --> 00:39:07,810
so I think an independent organization representing all 25

677
00:39:07,810 --> 00:39:11,284
local governments would be the best venue for that.

678
00:39:11,284 --> 00:39:14,687
>> okay. And is this questions only?

679
00:39:14,687 --> 00:39:15,690
or. >> mayor freaney: yeah,

680
00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:16,956
questions. We'll have comments later.

681
00:39:16,956 --> 00:39:20,761
>> okay then I'll save my scawmentoon -- comment on that.

682
00:39:20,761 --> 00:39:23,963
you had also mentioned there is going to be an executive

683
00:39:23,963 --> 00:39:25,832
committee. And right now discussions are

684
00:39:25,832 --> 00:39:32,239
maybe 2, 2, and 2, and that that would be a place for dunedin.

685
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,777
where and how and who would we advocate to?

686
00:39:36,777 --> 00:39:39,446
what's that process? >> I think you would have to be

687
00:39:39,446 --> 00:39:42,115
on the board first, so dunedin would have to have a seat on the

688
00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,585
board, and then the executive committee would be typically

689
00:39:44,585 --> 00:39:48,388
appointed by a vote of the full board.

690
00:39:48,388 --> 00:39:51,525
you know, that would be a determination of the next board.

691
00:39:51,525 --> 00:39:55,595
I'm not even sure the bylaws are specific enough yet about how

692
00:39:55,595 --> 00:39:59,195
the executive committee would be appointed.

693
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,100
>> all right. And you had mentioned that also

694
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:06,600
one of the seats is going to be for the port of tampa.

695
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,810
can you explain that again to e on why they have a seat.

696
00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:14,614
>> right, so the rationale is that port tampa bay and the

697
00:40:14,614 --> 00:40:17,484
hillsborough aviation authority or the tampa international

698
00:40:17,484 --> 00:40:20,387
airport are already regional entities and they are already

699
00:40:20,387 --> 00:40:24,891
voting members of the hillsborough tpo board and they

700
00:40:24,891 --> 00:40:29,362
feel very strongly in that role, and they, they have both written

701
00:40:29,362 --> 00:40:32,300
letters stating that they need to be on the regional board.

702
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:36,836
and I've understood that hillsborough county feels that

703
00:40:36,836 --> 00:40:39,907
that is, that is absolutely essential to have them on the

704
00:40:39,907 --> 00:40:42,307
board. They are transportation

705
00:40:43,111 --> 00:40:44,911
providers. While port tampa bay doesn't

706
00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:47,713
have maybe the same impact that tampa international airport does

707
00:40:47,713 --> 00:40:51,852
on the pinellas county, it is still a main conduit for freight

708
00:40:51,852 --> 00:40:54,388
and goods distribution in this region.

709
00:40:54,388 --> 00:40:59,788
they tend to operate more operationally focused on their

710
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,463
port operations. Same with the airport.

711
00:41:02,463 --> 00:41:07,400
there is a little bit of a fly in the ointment just to be cand

712
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,270
candid with you is we're proposing that the ceos be

713
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:13,807
staff, be the voting members of those entities.

714
00:41:13,807 --> 00:41:18,611
and I think you'll find that staff tend to be very regionally

715
00:41:18,611 --> 00:41:19,746
minded. They look for what's best for

716
00:41:19,746 --> 00:41:22,348
the region and they're not really beholden to politics.

717
00:41:22,348 --> 00:41:26,152
but they do have a governing board, and their governing board

718
00:41:26,152 --> 00:41:32,240
is comprised of the mayor of tampa, a county commissioner,

719
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,627
and then gubernatorial appointees.

720
00:41:33,627 --> 00:41:37,297
all of those gubernatorial appointees have to reside in

721
00:41:37,297 --> 00:41:39,833
hillsborough county. So I have requested our

722
00:41:39,833 --> 00:41:42,635
legislative delegation members to consider if they are truly

723
00:41:42,635 --> 00:41:47,730
regional entities and have a seat on the regional mpo board,

724
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,777
that let's open up their gubernatorial appointments to

725
00:41:50,777 --> 00:41:54,981
people who live in pinellas or pasco county as well or expand

726
00:41:54,981 --> 00:41:57,183
their board to include that so those are additional

727
00:41:57,183 --> 00:41:59,118
considerations that we're looking at.

728
00:41:59,118 --> 00:42:03,723
>> okay, and the tis goes -- and if this goes forward, what is

729
00:42:03,723 --> 00:42:08,795
the impact on other smaller committees or boards like the

730
00:42:08,795 --> 00:42:11,263
pedestrian advisory committee? >> that's still in flux.

731
00:42:11,263 --> 00:42:15,935
we need to work that out. My sense is that our citizens

732
00:42:15,935 --> 00:42:19,952
committee, which meets you know at 7:00 on a thursday night, and

733
00:42:19,952 --> 00:42:22,823
our bike ped committee, which meets at 8:30 a lot of those

734
00:42:22,823 --> 00:42:26,892
folks a arrive by bicycle aren't going to want to go across the

735
00:42:26,892 --> 00:42:30,300
bridge and meet at the airport or someplace like that.

736
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:34,500
so I think what we will probably end up doing is having those

737
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,704
committees still functioning in each county, and then a subset

738
00:42:37,704 --> 00:42:40,906
of the committee members would probably get together twice a

739
00:42:40,906 --> 00:42:46,111
year to talk about regional issues related to those modes of

740
00:42:46,111 --> 00:42:49,248
transportation or citizen input in the transportation process.

741
00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:53,186
but that has not been determined yet the citizens advisory

742
00:42:53,186 --> 00:42:57,322
committee when I asked them how they saw themselves in regional

743
00:42:57,322 --> 00:43:00,590
mpo, they would prefer to have the ability to meet virtually

744
00:43:00,590 --> 00:43:03,862
and vote virtually without having a physical quorum

745
00:43:03,862 --> 00:43:05,664
present, and that's another one of those little statutory

746
00:43:05,664 --> 00:43:07,801
changes that we would need to make.

747
00:43:07,801 --> 00:43:10,204
so we're keeping a running list of that.

748
00:43:10,204 --> 00:43:13,940
and there are provisions I believe that affects the water

749
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:17,342
management districts and some of the other multicounty

750
00:43:17,342 --> 00:43:20,546
organizations that don't have to have a physical quorum present

751
00:43:20,546 --> 00:43:24,216
to adhere to the sunshine law. It's very limited, and so we

752
00:43:24,216 --> 00:43:27,820
think a carveout for a newly formed regional organization

753
00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:32,620
like that in certain instances would make sense.

754
00:43:37,563 --> 00:43:41,233
>> okay. And because I look at the list

755
00:43:41,233 --> 00:43:47,173
of cities, counties, and things on the member list, and I don't

756
00:43:47,173 --> 00:43:51,444
see a lot of representation as it sticks out.

757
00:43:51,444 --> 00:43:55,181
I'm not talking about the individual members that might

758
00:43:55,181 --> 00:43:59,985
sit but therefore anybody who thinks of transportation in any

759
00:43:59,985 --> 00:44:05,325
other manner but car focused. And I'm, I'd be concerned that

760
00:44:05,325 --> 00:44:12,525
in as we go regional, that that car centricity will play a

761
00:44:14,334 --> 00:44:17,937
stronger role when I feel, I can only speak for myself, that we

762
00:44:17,937 --> 00:44:20,740
should be looking at diversifying our transportation

763
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:25,344
system. So are we losing -- and we as

764
00:44:25,344 --> 00:44:29,215
pinellas county, forward pinellas mpo, I think we've done

765
00:44:29,215 --> 00:44:32,418
a good job. We can always do better.

766
00:44:32,418 --> 00:44:36,589
but we do a good job and I'm afraid we're going to lose that

767
00:44:36,589 --> 00:44:39,625
focus going forward. Can you speak to that at all?

768
00:44:39,625 --> 00:44:40,626
>> sure. Well I think pinellas county is

769
00:44:40,626 --> 00:44:44,290
different in the sense that we don't have a lot of land to

770
00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:46,231
continue to build and widen roads.

771
00:44:46,231 --> 00:44:49,301
we've done a little bit but not a lot.

772
00:44:49,301 --> 00:44:52,438
so yes, we need to be more multimodal in this county just

773
00:44:52,438 --> 00:44:55,441
by our geography and our density.

774
00:44:55,441 --> 00:44:57,977
I think you'll find that the same concerns that you've

775
00:44:57,977 --> 00:45:00,848
expressed have been echoed by the city of tampa.

776
00:45:00,848 --> 00:45:05,510
tampa wants to see eight allies on the board, and they look at

777
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:08,187
st. Petersburg, they look at dunedin, they look at largo, as

778
00:45:08,187 --> 00:45:10,923
allies and they want to see that representation before they're

779
00:45:10,923 --> 00:45:15,123
comfortable with this. They've been pushing, pushing,

780
00:45:15,661 --> 00:45:19,799
pushing for investments in transit, bike safety, pedestrian

781
00:45:19,799 --> 00:45:22,468
safety, for years in the city of tampa.

782
00:45:22,468 --> 00:45:25,871
they've largely been thwarted by hillsborough county and the way

783
00:45:25,871 --> 00:45:28,741
their board is comprised over there, so they've actually kind

784
00:45:28,741 --> 00:45:31,545
of come around to the regional mpo because they see more

785
00:45:31,545 --> 00:45:34,947
alliances being formed than hitting their head up against

786
00:45:34,947 --> 00:45:38,884
the wall the way they've been for the las couple of decades.

787
00:45:38,884 --> 00:45:43,923
so I think that's something that I'm taking heart in, and I'll

788
00:45:43,923 --> 00:45:48,294
even say one of the strongest proponents for the merger is

789
00:45:48,294 --> 00:45:53,365
commissioner catherine starkey in pasco county and she is laser

790
00:45:53,365 --> 00:45:56,350
focused so is commissioner mariano on getting some kind of

791
00:45:56,350 --> 00:45:59,105
rail or passenger rail transportation in the tampa bay

792
00:45:59,105 --> 00:46:00,440
region. So I'm not saying that's going

793
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,420
to be like a project coming out of the chute but that's

794
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:06,912
something that they are very interested in you're not going

795
00:46:06,912 --> 00:46:12,312
to get that done without a concerted regional effort.

796
00:46:13,252 --> 00:46:18,391
so I'm, I wouldn't recommend this commissioner if I feel like

797
00:46:18,391 --> 00:46:26,650
we were going to give all this progress up and have a an

798
00:46:26,650 --> 00:46:28,200
automobile oriented focus but we are pushing against some very

799
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,137
significant state and federal head winds in terms of policy,

800
00:46:31,137 --> 00:46:35,700
and we need to recognize that and those headwinds change it

801
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:37,543
was you know five years ago we had a very different policy

802
00:46:37,543 --> 00:46:42,214
framework than we do today. And I'm confident that

803
00:46:42,214 --> 00:46:48,520
eventually things will change and we'll have a little bit more

804
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,890
receptive policy framework at the a state and federal level

805
00:46:50,890 --> 00:46:53,558
for those kinds of initiatives. I mean, even our county

806
00:46:53,558 --> 00:46:57,960
commission changed four or five years ago so it's, it happens

807
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,366
with elections. >> yes, it does.

808
00:46:59,366 --> 00:47:02,568
it's hard to have a plan when things change every two to four

809
00:47:02,568 --> 00:47:04,360
years. >> one other thing I think that

810
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,173
gets lost in all this is how the money works.

811
00:47:07,173 --> 00:47:11,510
and it's really important to speak with a unified voice and

812
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:14,460
say this is the priority of what we want.

813
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:17,249
orlando years ago when I lived over there advocated for the sun

814
00:47:17,249 --> 00:47:19,452
rail commuter rail corridor as the number one priority.

815
00:47:19,452 --> 00:47:22,322
it was one of three top priorities.

816
00:47:22,322 --> 00:47:24,923
and they got all three done because consistently they went

817
00:47:24,923 --> 00:47:29,261
to their federal and state delegation and they had the

818
00:47:29,261 --> 00:47:30,597
champions. And they had the priorities.

819
00:47:30,597 --> 00:47:34,600
and they were working together. And there was not disharmony.

820
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,870
they were in unity. They also had to come up with a

821
00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:43,870
lot of local match dollars when you're talking about public

822
00:47:44,276 --> 00:47:45,811
transportation especially, the federal government's maybe going

823
00:47:45,811 --> 00:47:48,213
to give you half your capital money and the state maybe is

824
00:47:48,213 --> 00:47:50,750
going to give you half of the nonfederal share.

825
00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:52,952
you still have to come up with 25%.

826
00:47:52,952 --> 00:47:57,556
and that was the recipe for the sun runner project in

827
00:47:57,556 --> 00:47:58,958
st. Petersburg. And then you're on your own for

828
00:47:58,958 --> 00:48:01,626
operating it because you don't get federal assistance or state

829
00:48:01,626 --> 00:48:06,233
assistance much for operating. So ritz -- it's different than

830
00:48:06,233 --> 00:48:08,834
highways and I think when you think about car centric and

831
00:48:08,834 --> 00:48:13,706
highway oriented it's simply because the policy playing field

832
00:48:13,706 --> 00:48:16,442
is not level when the state builds a highway, we don't have

833
00:48:16,442 --> 00:48:19,446
to worry about maintaining it. The state just takes the money

834
00:48:19,446 --> 00:48:21,313
out of the top and maintains it forever.

835
00:48:21,313 --> 00:48:27,720
but with a bus, that's you and me and all the taxpayers here

836
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:28,531
locally. >> interesting.

837
00:48:28,531 --> 00:48:30,400
interesting. And thank you, whit, and I could

838
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,669
go on but I am respectful of my colleagues.

839
00:48:32,669 --> 00:48:35,710
I have one last question. >> mayor freaney: okay.

840
00:48:35,710 --> 00:48:40,743
>> and that is on the current structure of forward pinellas,

841
00:48:40,743 --> 00:48:43,946
how is our mayor doing? [laughter]

842
00:48:43,946 --> 00:48:48,284
is she holding her own? >> she is writing the checks.

843
00:48:48,284 --> 00:48:49,886
>> signing the checks okay. >> she is on the executive

844
00:48:49,886 --> 00:48:54,900
committee as our treasurer so she's doing great.

845
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:56,159
>> all right. Thank you for being here, whit.

846
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:59,159
thank you. >> mayor freaney: questions.

847
00:48:59,497 --> 00:49:02,499
commissioner sandbergen. >> did you say the population of

848
00:49:02,499 --> 00:49:05,368
pinellas has reduce? Did I catch that?

849
00:49:05,368 --> 00:49:09,390
>> I didn't say that. It's holding steady at 960,000

850
00:49:09,390 --> 00:49:10,573
we did have a dip reported in the media.

851
00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:13,576
I believe that was pretty much hurricane related for people who

852
00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:16,645
had to relocate and I think we'll bring that population back

853
00:49:16,645 --> 00:49:20,245
because the homes are being rebuilt.

854
00:49:20,316 --> 00:49:22,251
>> right. >> but are we going to

855
00:49:22,251 --> 00:49:24,121
significantly at population in this county?

856
00:49:24,121 --> 00:49:28,124
I don't think there is the apto dramatically increase the

857
00:49:28,124 --> 00:49:31,994
density of our county and that's what you would have to do.

858
00:49:31,994 --> 00:49:35,266
pockets of density in the u.s. 19 corridor and certain

859
00:49:35,266 --> 00:49:37,801
locations make a lot of sense. But it's got to be the right

860
00:49:37,801 --> 00:49:41,138
place and we've got to have the infrastructure and there's got

861
00:49:41,138 --> 00:49:42,672
to be a local will for that. >> I understand.

862
00:49:42,672 --> 00:49:44,273
we talked a lot about transportation.

863
00:49:44,273 --> 00:49:48,244
what are some of the other roles of forward pinellas?

864
00:49:48,244 --> 00:49:51,348
>> well, y like to think that we are the conscious of the county

865
00:49:51,348 --> 00:49:53,683
so we're not beholden to the county commission.

866
00:49:53,683 --> 00:49:55,619
we're not beholden to any particular local government.

867
00:49:55,619 --> 00:49:59,689
we can be npt thinkers. So we're an independent staff

868
00:49:59,689 --> 00:50:05,962
the way I look at it. So we provide land use technical

869
00:50:05,962 --> 00:50:09,299
assistance and policy guidance. We ensure consistency among the

870
00:50:09,299 --> 00:50:13,236
comprehensive plans and land development regulations with the

871
00:50:13,236 --> 00:50:16,439
county-wide plan. And we also provide a lot of

872
00:50:16,439 --> 00:50:18,374
guidance on transportation analysis.

873
00:50:18,374 --> 00:50:23,980
so for instance, we are studying traffic patterns on clearwater

874
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:27,516
beach. And we have done an extensive

875
00:50:27,516 --> 00:50:31,654
traffic analysis with the city of clearwater that might result

876
00:50:31,654 --> 00:50:34,257
in changes to the clearwater roundabout on the beach to have

877
00:50:34,257 --> 00:50:36,793
a more efficient traffic pattern.

878
00:50:36,793 --> 00:50:39,996
they're building a parking gros down there so we're kind of

879
00:50:39,996 --> 00:50:42,599
working on the operational details of how that would all

880
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,680
work and that's not really -- that was an initiative with the

881
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,271
city of clearwater, and unless they apply for federal funds to

882
00:50:48,271 --> 00:50:51,341
build something, that doesn't really fall under the mpo.

883
00:50:51,341 --> 00:50:54,744
that's just our technical expertise and use of consultants

884
00:50:54,744 --> 00:50:56,212
that they're taking advantage of.

885
00:50:56,212 --> 00:50:58,815
>> okay. You know so if dunedin were to

886
00:50:58,815 --> 00:51:02,418
lose that seat I know we've -- you talked at length about that,

887
00:51:02,418 --> 00:51:05,889
would it diminish our role, I mean, would it be significant

888
00:51:05,889 --> 00:51:11,627
loss to our city I mean, how would be dunedin be recognized?

889
00:51:11,627 --> 00:51:14,964
>> that's a fair question. I'm, you know, I'm 62 years old.

890
00:51:14,964 --> 00:51:17,300
I'm not going to be here forever.

891
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:20,437
but my commitment is as long as I'm here, I'm going to work to

892
00:51:20,437 --> 00:51:26,309
ensure that we build a culture where we're doing the

893
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:28,978
telescoping of really being there and responsive to the

894
00:51:28,978 --> 00:51:32,281
local issues and I think the avenue for that would simply be

895
00:51:32,281 --> 00:51:36,920
pick up the phone call or let's have a conversation or work with

896
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,189
our liaison that we've identified in the org chart to

897
00:51:40,189 --> 00:51:43,259
make sure that we understand those issues and can really work

898
00:51:43,259 --> 00:51:45,995
with you on advancing those. That's a commitment we've made,

899
00:51:45,995 --> 00:51:49,932
and you know we just awarded some planning funds to kenneth

900
00:51:49,932 --> 00:51:53,300
city which is one of our smaller cities in pinellas county.

901
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:55,939
they have never received any funding from the mpo in the

902
00:51:55,939 --> 00:51:59,142
history of the mpo and pinellas county since the 1970s.

903
00:51:59,142 --> 00:52:02,780
well that's changed and so I think if we can do it for

904
00:52:02,780 --> 00:52:04,281
kenneth city, that's kind of the similar kind of example.

905
00:52:04,281 --> 00:52:08,551
I think we could do it for 40,000 city here.

906
00:52:08,551 --> 00:52:09,953
>> good, kind of what I wanted to hear.

907
00:52:09,953 --> 00:52:12,890
that's all I had, mayor. >> mayor freaney: okay, well I

908
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:15,910
don't have any questions since I get to ask mine at forward

909
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:17,920
pinellas, so I'm going to open tup for public input.

910
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,980
anybody in the public wish to come forward and speak on this

911
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:23,766
issue? >> mayor, I had a question.

912
00:52:23,766 --> 00:52:27,303
>> mayor freaney: oh, sure, go ahead.

913
00:52:27,303 --> 00:52:29,573
>> quick question on the rotating for the smaller cities.

914
00:52:29,573 --> 00:52:31,974
what's the cycle on that rotation?

915
00:52:31,974 --> 00:52:35,440
>> I think we're calling for two-year on that.

916
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,181
right now we have a three-year term for our rotation, and

917
00:52:37,181 --> 00:52:40,490
that's because it takes a year to find the bathroom.

918
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:44,530
and figure out the acronyms. And then, and then you get up to

919
00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:47,560
speed and you're rotated off. But because of the number of

920
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,125
cities I think two years is probably where we'll go.

921
00:52:49,125 --> 00:52:53,596
that's been a really important question I got from city of

922
00:52:53,596 --> 00:52:55,464
plant city. They are really worried that

923
00:52:55,464 --> 00:52:59,135
they might get appointed and then it would take them half

924
00:52:59,135 --> 00:53:02,472
their term to understand what the issues and get their feet.

925
00:53:02,472 --> 00:53:06,675
so they really want to make sure that there's a process for

926
00:53:06,675 --> 00:53:08,610
keeping everybody who might be in a rotating seat informed and

927
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:14,610
that's going to be a bigger challenge for pinellas county.

928
00:53:14,684 --> 00:53:16,485
>> yeah because doesn't plant city get a seat?

929
00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:19,889
doesn't plant city have a seat? >> they would -- they're talking

930
00:53:19,889 --> 00:53:22,959
about it today this morning, they would have a rotating seat

931
00:53:22,959 --> 00:53:24,761
with temple tear ?oos okay. Okay.

932
00:53:24,761 --> 00:53:26,763
>> they only have four cities or three cities.

933
00:53:26,763 --> 00:53:29,899
>> right, I know, I mean, we're insane but you know, it is, we

934
00:53:29,899 --> 00:53:34,771
are who we are, and we love who we are, but it does make things

935
00:53:34,771 --> 00:53:37,106
complicated. Okay, anyone in the audience

936
00:53:37,106 --> 00:53:40,577
wish to come forward and speak on this issue?

937
00:53:40,577 --> 00:53:44,847
we got nan, mark, and julie as potentials out there.

938
00:53:44,847 --> 00:53:45,515
[laughter] okay.

939
00:53:45,515 --> 00:53:48,718
I'm going to close public input. I'll go to final comments and

940
00:53:48,718 --> 00:53:51,187
I'll start with commissioner sandbergen.

941
00:53:51,187 --> 00:53:53,550
>> nothing really to ad, mayor other than you know thank you

942
00:53:53,550 --> 00:53:56,726
for your presentation this morning and obviously we have

943
00:53:56,726 --> 00:54:00,596
the best interest of dunedin first and foremost from up here

944
00:54:00,596 --> 00:54:03,866
and it sounds like that you're looking out for our interests

945
00:54:03,866 --> 00:54:07,700
too so I appreciate your presentation this morning.

946
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:08,938
thank you. >> okay, commissioner gow.

947
00:54:08,938 --> 00:54:13,275
>> thank you, mayor. Whit, thank you again for being

948
00:54:13,275 --> 00:54:15,780
here. It's always wonderful to hear

949
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:18,748
you talk and hear the things that we're doing at forward

950
00:54:18,748 --> 00:54:20,949
pinellas. Now is my opportunity to

951
00:54:20,949 --> 00:54:24,287
advocate for dunedin having a seat, and the only thing I'll

952
00:54:24,287 --> 00:54:30,250
say is we've had a seat since the very beginning and what you

953
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:33,162
get with dunedin and we can sometimes be obnoxiously vocal.

954
00:54:33,162 --> 00:54:37,962
we can be. But that because of pride.

955
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:44,470
and but we're active. And we're a guaranteeds active

956
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:46,447
seat. We will participate.

957
00:54:47,185 --> 00:54:54,385
and my concern is that we have, there have been some other

958
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:58,129
municipalities that have been in a rotating seat and have said

959
00:54:58,129 --> 00:55:01,599
yeah, never mind, skip us this term and I'm not going to go

960
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:03,869
into who those cities are. Some of those cities have taken

961
00:55:03,869 --> 00:55:08,673
a recent liking and interest in becoming on the board and I love

962
00:55:08,673 --> 00:55:11,342
that. But that's also late in the game

963
00:55:11,342 --> 00:55:15,346
given the history of dunedin has so when it comes to somebody

964
00:55:15,346 --> 00:55:19,283
with experience, somebody with passion, somebody who's not shy

965
00:55:19,283 --> 00:55:23,954
about being an active member on the board, you can't go wrong

966
00:55:23,954 --> 00:55:28,426
with dunedin. And so that is my vote for

967
00:55:28,426 --> 00:55:32,497
dunedin. Also, I would just make the

968
00:55:32,497 --> 00:55:36,367
comment of I'm still not getting port of tampa, and why they have

969
00:55:36,367 --> 00:55:38,368
a seat. I don't understand it.

970
00:55:38,368 --> 00:55:41,305
especially if it's about the fuel they bring in.

971
00:55:41,305 --> 00:55:46,844
so all they that they do they're just a beneficiary for the

972
00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:50,914
infrastructure that we build. So we know where their interest

973
00:55:50,914 --> 00:55:52,516
lie. I think a better interest might

974
00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:54,119
be in the florida bicycle association.

975
00:55:54,119 --> 00:56:01,192
or so that way you're able to unify and have a place where

976
00:56:01,192 --> 00:56:04,328
bicycles and people who believe in that diversified

977
00:56:04,328 --> 00:56:08,310
transportation system can go to to make sure they have a voice.

978
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:10,935
if it's just, it can work with members of each commission but

979
00:56:10,935 --> 00:56:14,538
then it's up to those members within that community to

980
00:56:14,538 --> 00:56:18,876
understand they've got -- to seek that out and then when that

981
00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:22,880
person rotates out, who is it now if they still have one where

982
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,180
if you truly have a bicycle association, that's always there

983
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:29,220
you know where there interesterize goig to lie and

984
00:56:29,220 --> 00:56:34,358
so as an avid bicyclist, I know where I can always go to and if

985
00:56:34,358 --> 00:56:40,964
dunedin gets to be on the board, and somebody on that board is

986
00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:45,236
favors bicycling, that's just frufor me -- extra for me.

987
00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:47,771
but without that I know I've got a place and the other bicyclists

988
00:56:47,771 --> 00:56:50,241
and pedestrians would know they have a place and a voice that

989
00:56:50,241 --> 00:56:53,311
will hear them and be heard through them.

990
00:56:53,311 --> 00:56:58,783
so that's my advocacy for maybe thinking a little differently

991
00:56:58,783 --> 00:57:02,587
than all that. So with that, I'll yield my time

992
00:57:02,587 --> 00:57:05,256
and thank you, whit, again for being here.

993
00:57:05,256 --> 00:57:07,391
>> thank you. >> mayor freaney: go dunedin.

994
00:57:07,391 --> 00:57:09,260
>> mayor freaney: okay, well, I'll kind of reiterate some

995
00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:12,620
things I said at forward pinellas.

996
00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:16,734
which is you know, I fully believe in well organized merged

997
00:57:16,734 --> 00:57:18,200
mpo. I mean, big picture it makes all

998
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,540
the sense in the world. It, and the last thing I think

999
00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:27,145
we should be is parochial about that because you know I just

1000
00:57:27,145 --> 00:57:30,882
think we have a lot to gain by, by you know controlling our own

1001
00:57:30,882 --> 00:57:34,151
destiny by working together for bigger projects so I totally

1002
00:57:34,151 --> 00:57:38,880
believe in that. And I think that that's

1003
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,959
paramount to everything here and we need to make that happen.

1004
00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:49,433
so, so you know, so way in the distance is how our own counties

1005
00:57:49,433 --> 00:57:51,168
apportionment happens. I don't like the current way

1006
00:57:51,168 --> 00:57:52,903
it's laid out. Whit knows that.

1007
00:57:52,903 --> 00:57:56,575
woo ebb had discussion -- we've had discussions behind the

1008
00:57:56,575 --> 00:57:57,841
scenes. I brought it up at the board

1009
00:57:57,841 --> 00:57:59,110
meeting. I think I have some support at

1010
00:57:59,110 --> 00:58:01,645
the board meeting for that. I mean, there's 20 small cities

1011
00:58:01,645 --> 00:58:06,517
out of our 24 cities in pinellas and, they are just lumped

1012
00:58:06,517 --> 00:58:09,720
together. So and to me that's not

1013
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,623
representative. I think there's plenty of

1014
00:58:12,623 --> 00:58:13,792
representation for unincorporated and for some of

1015
00:58:13,792 --> 00:58:19,196
the big cities and that's just too many cities all lumped

1016
00:58:19,196 --> 00:58:22,466
together. And I think specifically in the

1017
00:58:22,466 --> 00:58:24,701
north county there is some underrepresentation so you know

1018
00:58:24,701 --> 00:58:28,539
we've, whit and I have had some good conversations, and he's

1019
00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:31,742
told me hang onto that chip, you know, and to be discussed.

1020
00:58:31,742 --> 00:58:35,613
I know that even you know I've had discussions with

1021
00:58:35,613 --> 00:58:38,816
commissioner eggers even on that and he's kind of sees it the way

1022
00:58:38,816 --> 00:58:41,216
that we do. Dunedin.

1023
00:58:43,154 --> 00:58:45,889
and not necessarily dunedin just the north county piece.

1024
00:58:45,889 --> 00:58:49,893
you know? And the benefits even to the

1025
00:58:49,893 --> 00:58:52,229
pasco you know north county connection kind of thing and you

1026
00:58:52,229 --> 00:58:56,299
know as I've said even on the board, you know we've got state

1027
00:58:56,299 --> 00:59:00,571
route 580, we've got alt 19, we've got curlew, we've got

1028
00:59:00,571 --> 00:59:04,171
honeymoon island, caladesi, most visited park.

1029
00:59:04,308 --> 00:59:09,460
so I think by basically being the largest city of 20 cities

1030
00:59:09,460 --> 00:59:16,186
that are kind of thrown together for one seat is not enough.

1031
00:59:16,186 --> 00:59:19,457
so those are my comments and we've had if -- good

1032
00:59:19,457 --> 00:59:21,192
conversations and that's yet to be determined and I'm going to

1033
00:59:21,192 --> 00:59:23,727
keep my finger on that button and keep the pressure on.

1034
00:59:23,727 --> 00:59:28,332
I know that you know even an alternating seat with pinellas

1035
00:59:28,332 --> 00:59:31,902
park would be better than what we've got so those are some of

1036
00:59:31,902 --> 00:59:34,739
my thoughts but overall, whit, you have done an amazing job

1037
00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:36,408
with this. I do think you're the logical

1038
00:59:36,408 --> 00:59:38,810
person for me. I've met the other two people

1039
00:59:38,810 --> 00:59:43,947
and they're very good too. The other directors in hills

1040
00:59:43,947 --> 00:59:46,684
hillsborough and pasco and they're good, credible people

1041
00:59:46,684 --> 00:59:50,870
but to me you make the most sense but that won't be my call

1042
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:54,892
but I think you guys have done a lot of work here and there's a

1043
00:59:54,892 --> 00:59:59,830
lot of political moves and sways and but I have a feeling with a

1044
00:59:59,830 --> 01:00:02,967
little push that is going to be forced on us, that'll get

1045
01:00:02,967 --> 01:00:06,437
everybody off the dime to make it happen and you guys are you

1046
01:00:06,437 --> 01:00:12,710
know you've done a lot of the leg work to make it work so I'm

1047
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:14,845
supportive, and but we appreciate you being here.

1048
01:00:14,845 --> 01:00:15,979
>> thank you. >> mayor freaney: good update.

1049
01:00:15,979 --> 01:00:18,382
>> thank you very much. >> mayor freaney: everybody

1050
01:00:18,382 --> 01:00:19,490
good? Jorge?

1051
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:19,650
anything? Okay.

1052
01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:23,453
thank you. >> I'll just say finally my wife

1053
01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:24,789
and daughter both work for libraries.

1054
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:26,457
I really appreciate the proclamation, and I sent them

1055
01:00:26,457 --> 01:00:29,457
pictures of your pictures. [laughter]

1056
01:00:29,727 --> 01:00:30,861
>> that's great. That's great.

1057
01:00:30,861 --> 01:00:33,261
thank you. Take care.

1058
01:00:33,597 --> 01:00:36,266
sorry you're not biking back home now.

1059
01:00:36,266 --> 01:00:38,469
okay we're going to go to the next item.

1060
01:00:38,469 --> 01:00:40,338
you guys want to take a short break or are you good?

1061
01:00:40,338 --> 01:00:42,606
do you want to keep going? >> I'm going to take a short

1062
01:00:42,606 --> 01:00:45,606
break. >> mayor freaney: okay, let's

1063
01:01:03,299 --> 01:01:04,368
short break. >> mayor freaney: we have

1064
01:01:04,368 --> 01:01:07,968
legislative discussion, reviewing 20 -- reviewing the

1065
01:01:10,439 --> 01:01:12,308
2026 session. Staff presentation.

1066
01:01:12,308 --> 01:01:16,508
we have nicole and we have laura.

1067
01:01:17,313 --> 01:01:19,915
our lobbyist. And laura, first of all I just

1068
01:01:19,915 --> 01:01:23,986
want to say like you couldn't have kept amendment 3 from

1069
01:01:23,986 --> 01:01:25,855
getting passed and put on the ballot?

1070
01:01:25,855 --> 01:01:27,723
come on now. >> I tried.

1071
01:01:27,723 --> 01:01:28,524
>> mayor freaney: okay. [laughter]

1072
01:01:28,524 --> 01:01:29,458
all right. >> I tried.

1073
01:01:29,458 --> 01:01:32,327
>> I know you did. I know you did.

1074
01:01:32,327 --> 01:01:35,665
>> I pushed -- [off mic] >> mayor freaney: ookay, very

1075
01:01:35,665 --> 01:01:36,198
good. Very good.

1076
01:01:36,198 --> 01:01:38,600
I like it. I like it.

1077
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,881
okay I will go to nicole. >> good morning, mayor,

1078
01:01:41,881 --> 01:01:44,881
commission. City manager, sitting in.

1079
01:01:45,618 --> 01:01:49,155
nicole delfino, strategy and sustainability manager here to

1080
01:01:49,155 --> 01:01:51,824
provide you with a post-legislative update.

1081
01:01:51,824 --> 01:01:54,360
we wanted to go ahead and bring this forward.

1082
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,363
I know I think for the, for most of you, we know where we landed

1083
01:01:57,363 --> 01:02:03,903
with a lot of items, but as we typically do each session we

1084
01:02:03,903 --> 01:02:06,172
wanted to comprehensive provide this and keep record of where

1085
01:02:06,172 --> 01:02:10,643
we're at. Attached to the agenda item as

1086
01:02:10,643 --> 01:02:15,381
well, which you know we can discuss, but is also the bmo

1087
01:02:15,381 --> 01:02:20,653
memo in regards to how the legislation affects our city and

1088
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:23,990
any operations specifically. We've already been working with

1089
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:27,860
staff to get that information out to them so that any changes

1090
01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:34,266
that were made at the state level are reviewed and then

1091
01:02:34,266 --> 01:02:37,937
amended as we need to do so for our operations.

1092
01:02:37,937 --> 01:02:40,673
you have also attached the florida league of cities

1093
01:02:40,673 --> 01:02:43,743
comprehensive update if you want to read every single bill, super

1094
01:02:43,743 --> 01:02:44,478
fun. [laughter]

1095
01:02:44,478 --> 01:02:49,150
and also lastly, there is a preemption tracker.

1096
01:02:49,150 --> 01:02:54,754
I know this was discussed previously as far as you know

1097
01:02:54,754 --> 01:02:58,424
what legislation has been passed over the past several years.

1098
01:02:58,424 --> 01:03:03,224
that preempts the city or municipalities from certain

1099
01:03:03,562 --> 01:03:06,990
things. So that has been a document that

1100
01:03:06,990 --> 01:03:08,634
was created by the florida league of cities.

1101
01:03:08,634 --> 01:03:12,705
it is not currently up to date. It just goes up through 2025,

1102
01:03:12,705 --> 01:03:16,309
but as you can imagine, there'll be lot to add and amend to that.

1103
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:19,778
so once we have an updated preemption document, I'll

1104
01:03:19,778 --> 01:03:23,490
certainly make sure that you all get a copy of it.

1105
01:03:23,490 --> 01:03:25,451
from my perspective, I think we've talked about preemption

1106
01:03:25,451 --> 01:03:29,322
quite a bit. There is probably not a lot that

1107
01:03:29,322 --> 01:03:34,593
isn't filed that isn't preemptive so we'll leave that

1108
01:03:34,593 --> 01:03:36,194
there. I am here today of course with

1109
01:03:36,194 --> 01:03:39,932
laura beamer of the southern group to walk through just the

1110
01:03:39,932 --> 01:03:46,405
what the session looked like. >> do you want to take -- okay.

1111
01:03:46,405 --> 01:03:48,405
great. Fantastic.

1112
01:03:48,542 --> 01:03:49,875
[laughter] as far as what the session

1113
01:03:49,875 --> 01:03:54,747
looked like, this year we always track you know the bills, so we

1114
01:03:54,747 --> 01:03:58,884
had a little over 1800 almost 1900 bills filed.

1115
01:03:58,884 --> 01:04:03,155
this was a unique year in that there were so few bills that

1116
01:04:03,155 --> 01:04:06,758
actually passed through session. Obviously we were you know

1117
01:04:06,758 --> 01:04:10,162
keeping you all informed as we made our way through

1118
01:04:10,162 --> 01:04:13,310
session,trophist a lot of issues that were happening between the

1119
01:04:13,310 --> 01:04:17,169
house and the senate which then created what you see here which

1120
01:04:17,169 --> 01:04:20,639
was only 237 bills passed. So there were a few wins for us

1121
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:27,839
there with bills that did fail again unusual session to say the

1122
01:04:31,450 --> 01:04:34,320
least. And that we had not only just

1123
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,659
the regular session but then we had additional extensions to the

1124
01:04:40,659 --> 01:04:43,929
session and special sessions to address the budget redistricting

1125
01:04:43,929 --> 01:04:51,129
and then of course as we all know the property tax reform.

1126
01:04:53,739 --> 01:05:01,539
so here we have the budget. As far as what was signed, we

1127
01:05:03,616 --> 01:05:06,552
had $1.6 billion that was vetoed out of the budget.

1128
01:05:06,552 --> 01:05:10,152
the total state budget being $117.63 billion.

1129
01:05:12,359 --> 01:05:18,364
I did want to make particular note that they had, the state

1130
01:05:18,364 --> 01:05:24,570
has $18 billion in reserves that is an increase tromprior year of

1131
01:05:24,570 --> 01:05:28,440
about $15.7 billion and then we have discussed this in ininterny

1132
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,312
as well but there is an expected state budget deficit in the

1133
01:05:33,312 --> 01:05:35,449
future years. So they're doing some similar to

1134
01:05:35,449 --> 01:05:39,251
I think what we're doing as well as far as looking at right

1135
01:05:39,251 --> 01:05:45,258
sizing future year budgets. A lot of what we talk about

1136
01:05:45,258 --> 01:05:50,129
through your priorities are not accomplished through a bill or

1137
01:05:50,129 --> 01:05:52,399
through legislation. They are accomplished through

1138
01:05:52,399 --> 01:05:55,868
the budget so I just wanted to highlight a few of those items

1139
01:05:55,868 --> 01:05:59,872
here not necessarily going to go over every single item that's

1140
01:05:59,872 --> 01:06:01,730
listed. In the budget.

1141
01:06:01,730 --> 01:06:05,945
but you have maintained for your priorities over the last several

1142
01:06:05,945 --> 01:06:10,745
years support of affordable housing, the museum cultural

1143
01:06:13,485 --> 01:06:17,623
historical preservation support, they did receive as far as

1144
01:06:17,623 --> 01:06:20,759
cultural museum programs a little bit less of an

1145
01:06:20,759 --> 01:06:23,762
appropriation over prior years but as we all know, in 2024,

1146
01:06:23,762 --> 01:06:29,769
there was a complete veto of any of that support, so happy to

1147
01:06:29,769 --> 01:06:32,537
have some fukding there. Through the -- funding there.

1148
01:06:32,537 --> 01:06:34,440
through the environmental aspect, there are several

1149
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,444
components there that continue to maintain support.

1150
01:06:38,444 --> 01:06:42,715
the resilient florida program is an increase in funding over

1151
01:06:42,715 --> 01:06:44,383
prior years as well as some of the others.

1152
01:06:44,383 --> 01:06:50,656
there is actually quite a large increase over the florida state

1153
01:06:50,656 --> 01:06:53,259
park system, $63 million over the 34 from 2025.

1154
01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:58,590
and then finally, the tourism economic development visit

1155
01:06:58,531 --> 01:07:01,199
florida maintains funding pretty consistently year over year and

1156
01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:05,203
then we've got the job growth. So just wanted to highlight

1157
01:07:05,203 --> 01:07:08,742
those as far as what was in the budget.

1158
01:07:08,742 --> 01:07:12,342
why don't you take this. [laughter]

1159
01:07:13,346 --> 01:07:16,148
>> so as you know we're in election cycle obviously, so you

1160
01:07:16,148 --> 01:07:18,550
know there are some seats that are up for grabs throughout the

1161
01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:21,553
state but we do know already you know who the legislative

1162
01:07:21,553 --> 01:07:24,890
leadership is going to be for the next few years.

1163
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:29,362
you know, the outgoing senate president awl britain and

1164
01:07:29,362 --> 01:07:33,562
speaker perez. So -- allbritton and speaker

1165
01:07:36,235 --> 01:07:38,170
perez. Senator jim boid will be the

1166
01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:40,373
senate president, he is from down the road manatee county.

1167
01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:44,243
a great guy. I think it will be a new day in

1168
01:07:44,243 --> 01:07:46,311
tallahassee with these new leaders.

1169
01:07:46,311 --> 01:07:50,190
same garrison from up north of jacksonville, very different

1170
01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:52,793
personalities than our previous leadership and then after that

1171
01:07:52,793 --> 01:07:55,796
we have jennifer canady over in polk county too so somebody, you

1172
01:07:55,796 --> 01:08:02,469
know, pretty close to us and jay tremble from the panhandle and

1173
01:08:02,469 --> 01:08:08,469
microdondo from miami and tom leak from flagler county area.

1174
01:08:17,550 --> 01:08:20,554
>> this session we received three appropriationchise were --

1175
01:08:20,554 --> 01:08:23,424
appropriations which were approved and sign under by the

1176
01:08:23,424 --> 01:08:25,425
governor. Those include $200,000 support

1177
01:08:25,425 --> 01:08:30,964
for high water rescue vehicle for our fire department up with

1178
01:08:30,964 --> 01:08:36,964
$.5 million for -- $3 million o support the marina repair and

1179
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,844
restoration. So all told, pretty banner year

1180
01:08:42,844 --> 01:08:47,440
I would say, thank you, for $4.7 million.

1181
01:08:49,917 --> 01:08:53,921
these are just a few of the bills as I mentioned.

1182
01:08:53,921 --> 01:08:55,923
the florida league of cities summary is attached.

1183
01:08:55,923 --> 01:09:01,128
it goes into a lot of detail. During our advocacy in

1184
01:09:01,128 --> 01:09:05,799
tallahassee, we really talked about really streamlining and

1185
01:09:05,799 --> 01:09:09,700
focusing on you know those things that are most impactful

1186
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:13,273
and so these are some of those bills that you'll see here.

1187
01:09:13,273 --> 01:09:16,610
of course we've talked about the budget unfortunately property

1188
01:09:16,610 --> 01:09:22,282
tax is on there. We have, we are working with,

1189
01:09:22,282 --> 01:09:26,653
with staff, with leadership in the community and providing

1190
01:09:26,653 --> 01:09:29,220
educational sessions on the property tax impacts.

1191
01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:34,940
so those we have a few more sessions coming up.

1192
01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:36,630
we had some I wouldn't say success with sovereign immunity

1193
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:40,500
because it did make it through but was vetoed.

1194
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:44,437
there is some -- however I think in our discussions when we were

1195
01:09:44,437 --> 01:09:48,841
in tallahassee, we did get the bill to you know a decent place

1196
01:09:48,841 --> 01:09:55,441
as far as some increases that were manageable so to speak.

1197
01:09:55,515 --> 01:09:59,986
we've got the dei bill prohibition which I know we

1198
01:09:59,986 --> 01:10:03,389
reviewed in great detail with our attorney as far as the

1199
01:10:03,389 --> 01:10:09,530
impacts that it will have to, that will face because of that

1200
01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:13,130
bill. In addition, we have the

1201
01:10:15,335 --> 01:10:17,404
utility -- utility bill government spending which is

1202
01:10:17,404 --> 01:10:21,341
really just about transparency getting a lot of information on

1203
01:10:21,341 --> 01:10:26,546
our you know made public. We do those things already and

1204
01:10:26,546 --> 01:10:29,484
there was a lot of discussion that went on with this bill as

1205
01:10:29,484 --> 01:10:34,354
far as all of our budget and our audits are already hosted on the

1206
01:10:34,354 --> 01:10:37,240
state's platform. But that's okay.

1207
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,292
we will make the little modifications that we need to

1208
01:10:39,292 --> 01:10:42,496
make as far as what that bill deed.

1209
01:10:42,496 --> 01:10:46,700
we had some building permit and inspection impacts that are

1210
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:50,103
being reviewed by our community development team.

1211
01:10:50,103 --> 01:10:54,975
and then of course my favorite, our farm bill which really

1212
01:10:54,975 --> 01:10:58,778
impacted biosolids. I learned a lot about biosolids

1213
01:10:58,778 --> 01:11:02,378
this last year. Very fun topic.

1214
01:11:02,649 --> 01:11:06,249
[laughter] and then that really concludes

1215
01:11:06,453 --> 01:11:08,589
just the overview of the session.

1216
01:11:08,589 --> 01:11:14,394
we did talk about you know looking ahead to your priorities

1217
01:11:14,394 --> 01:11:17,664
for next session and I actually spoke with laura about this

1218
01:11:17,664 --> 01:11:21,335
yesterday as well. We're going to put your priority

1219
01:11:21,335 --> 01:11:25,739
discussion on for a future meeting because we would really,

1220
01:11:25,739 --> 01:11:29,475
a, like to have everybody present for that discussion but

1221
01:11:29,475 --> 01:11:36,750
also to have that discussion after the election to see how

1222
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:39,850
things have changed as your priorities may shift depending

1223
01:11:39,850 --> 01:11:41,155
on what happens there in november.

1224
01:11:41,155 --> 01:11:45,355
so do you all have any questions?

1225
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,760
questions? Commissioner sandbergen.

1226
01:11:48,829 --> 01:11:54,301
>> you know, while we were up there, I guess I don't recall

1227
01:11:54,301 --> 01:11:58,238
ever talking about that high water rescue vehicle or the

1228
01:11:58,238 --> 01:12:02,709
water main replacement. How did those, how did we end up

1229
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:07,509
with those as victories? >> would you like to?

1230
01:12:08,648 --> 01:12:11,584
>>> well, we did file appropriation requests for all

1231
01:12:11,584 --> 01:12:16,123
of the items on your list, and we just were able to

1232
01:12:16,123 --> 01:12:19,125
successfully work it through the budget process, and then when we

1233
01:12:19,125 --> 01:12:22,796
went to special session, we were able to secure the funding

1234
01:12:22,796 --> 01:12:23,396
fully. >> good.

1235
01:12:23,396 --> 01:12:26,332
jorge, this might be for you. Where exactly is that bayshore

1236
01:12:26,332 --> 01:12:31,732
water main replacement? >> it is along alt 19 not too

1237
01:12:32,138 --> 01:12:34,207
from like palm boulevard intersection.

1238
01:12:34,207 --> 01:12:36,409
>> north of palm or south of palm?

1239
01:12:36,409 --> 01:12:40,900
>> I think it straddles both. >> straddles?

1240
01:12:40,213 --> 01:12:43,884
good. Okay, nan is shaking her head

1241
01:12:43,884 --> 01:12:46,284
no. Nan, can you.

1242
01:12:47,153 --> 01:12:48,955
>> do you want me to tell you? >> yes.

1243
01:12:48,955 --> 01:12:50,223
>> guest speaker. >> nan, if you can just state

1244
01:12:50,223 --> 01:12:54,160
your name and address for the record.

1245
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,160
>> 1990 -- >> nan bennett, 1990 saddle hill

1246
01:12:58,970 --> 01:13:02,297
road north dunedin. It's along alter nat 19.

1247
01:13:03,437 --> 01:13:08,775
it's the last remaining part of unline duct -- pipe we have in

1248
01:13:08,775 --> 01:13:12,579
the water system. That they've been trying to

1249
01:13:12,579 --> 01:13:15,716
replace the entire since the not evens.

1250
01:13:15,716 --> 01:13:22,857
and it's in the brick streets a little bit north of wilson

1251
01:13:22,857 --> 01:13:26,192
going, it's not as far as palm. It's couple thousand feet.

1252
01:13:26,192 --> 01:13:27,861
and it goes into some of the brick streets.

1253
01:13:27,861 --> 01:13:29,796
I can't give you the names of the streets right off the top of

1254
01:13:29,796 --> 01:13:33,133
my head but it's a little further south than palm.

1255
01:13:33,133 --> 01:13:35,133
>> okay. >> thank you.

1256
01:13:35,868 --> 01:13:38,138
>> what I was going to say we can confirm the location with

1257
01:13:38,138 --> 01:13:40,874
our city engineer so you have the exact stretch.

1258
01:13:40,874 --> 01:13:44,100
because I know that was included but I can't reference the

1259
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,346
streets off the top of my head. >> that's all I had, mayor.

1260
01:13:46,346 --> 01:13:48,815
>> mayor freaney: okay, thank you.

1261
01:13:48,815 --> 01:13:50,815
commissioner gow. Questions?

1262
01:13:51,685 --> 01:13:56,823
>>> what was the lawnlic behind the -- logic behind the

1263
01:13:56,823 --> 01:13:59,699
sovereign immunity actually being veto?

1264
01:13:59,699 --> 01:14:02,702
>> well that's a good question. >> not that -- I'm actually a

1265
01:14:02,702 --> 01:14:08,374
little disappointed it was vetoed but I'll talk about that.

1266
01:14:08,374 --> 01:14:11,777
sphroo trying to decide how to phrase this.

1267
01:14:11,777 --> 01:14:17,177
I would suspect that the governor's office wasn't crazy

1268
01:14:23,455 --> 01:14:30,550
about giving -- the child lawyers more more room to sue.

1269
01:14:33,465 --> 01:14:34,667
[laughter] I suspect.

1270
01:14:34,667 --> 01:14:38,470
>> somebody was thinking nicely of local governments.

1271
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:41,740
that's why I was kind of surprised.

1272
01:14:41,740 --> 01:14:44,276
in my comments, mayor, was because I know the last several

1273
01:14:44,276 --> 01:14:50,276
sessions, they've been trying to increase this limit by millions,

1274
01:14:50,482 --> 01:14:51,951
billions, trillions. The numbers that they were

1275
01:14:51,951 --> 01:14:56,288
asking for were just insane. And I'd look at these and I

1276
01:14:56,288 --> 01:14:59,958
would go, okay, at least it's reasonable.

1277
01:14:59,958 --> 01:15:02,940
if that passes then they'll shut up about it.

1278
01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:05,231
but now that it vetoed, oh it's going to come back and again

1279
01:15:05,231 --> 01:15:09,501
we're going to be back to the millions and trillions.

1280
01:15:09,501 --> 01:15:12,704
and especially with amendment 3. And it just, it to me it just

1281
01:15:12,704 --> 01:15:16,909
didn't make sense that he chose this session to veto that when

1282
01:15:16,909 --> 01:15:22,314
it was a reasonable increase that -- could absorb instead of

1283
01:15:22,314 --> 01:15:25,250
the millions that have been proposed in previous legislative

1284
01:15:25,250 --> 01:15:28,286
sessions. >> and I will say from an

1285
01:15:28,286 --> 01:15:32,524
advocacy standpoint, I mean, we did work very hard when we were

1286
01:15:32,524 --> 01:15:34,728
in tallahassee with you know independently with our group

1287
01:15:34,728 --> 01:15:37,463
with the sun coast league of cities with the florida league

1288
01:15:37,463 --> 01:15:41,734
of cities to get the house and the senate bill to align.

1289
01:15:41,734 --> 01:15:44,937
in regards to sovereign immunity because they were not aligned at

1290
01:15:44,937 --> 01:15:49,141
all where they started. And so it was a little bit more

1291
01:15:49,141 --> 01:15:51,744
of an increase than we had hoped.

1292
01:15:51,744 --> 01:15:54,814
we you know I think from the individual or you know per

1293
01:15:54,814 --> 01:16:00,552
person claim it was a little more manageable than the larger

1294
01:16:00,552 --> 01:16:06,292
you know claim but again, we got the number to a point where we

1295
01:16:06,292 --> 01:16:09,610
felt you know we understood that an increase hadn't happened for

1296
01:16:09,610 --> 01:16:12,163
many years and needed to happen. So I think you know again we're

1297
01:16:12,163 --> 01:16:15,500
just going to have to likely going to have to work the bill

1298
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:18,170
again. >> I mean you can see that it

1299
01:16:18,170 --> 01:16:20,373
passed almost unanimously. There was only one no vote in

1300
01:16:20,373 --> 01:16:23,309
the house and it was unianimist is unanimous

1301
01:16:23,309 --> 01:16:27,512
in the senate so we were at a place where it was comfortable.

1302
01:16:27,512 --> 01:16:29,115
>> that was the item I championed when I got up there

1303
01:16:29,115 --> 01:16:35,120
and I was very well prepared tanks to city attorney jen

1304
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,889
cowen. You had my notes prepared and I

1305
01:16:36,889 --> 01:16:40,927
walked in with a lot of confidence on that specific item

1306
01:16:40,927 --> 01:16:44,796
and paid off I appreciate your help on that now that we go

1307
01:16:44,796 --> 01:16:47,932
back -- >> you must've met separately

1308
01:16:47,932 --> 01:16:53,932
with the ghrve because he -- governor because he vetoed.

1309
01:16:54,273 --> 01:16:57,609
[laughter] did you have a separate meeting.

1310
01:16:57,609 --> 01:16:59,878
>> on one hand it was very dmies that the ledge slaifn rb -- nice

1311
01:16:59,878 --> 01:17:02,747
that the legislature finally got together on this and with

1312
01:17:02,747 --> 01:17:05,417
reasonable increases especially given we haven't had an increase

1313
01:17:05,417 --> 01:17:10,689
in several years. And if you want to talk about

1314
01:17:10,689 --> 01:17:13,492
compromise and playing nice in the sand box, there's been a

1315
01:17:13,492 --> 01:17:16,428
nice awl vive branch from the municipalities going okay we see

1316
01:17:16,428 --> 01:17:19,428
it. We'll do our part.

1317
01:17:24,970 --> 01:17:30,970
>> as a former risk manager that sees letters from attorneys,

1318
01:17:33,712 --> 01:17:36,715
they will go right to the cap, that's what we're demanding so

1319
01:17:36,715 --> 01:17:39,117
all they're doing is giving attorneys another higher cap to

1320
01:17:39,117 --> 01:17:44,122
shoot for and we're an easy target if we're wrong we're a

1321
01:17:44,122 --> 01:17:47,727
wrong and there is a way for the legislative bill to get money if

1322
01:17:47,727 --> 01:17:53,127
it's wrong and we're egredges. >> not all attorneys necessary.

1323
01:17:53,665 --> 01:17:59,665
so we want to throw them all in one basket.

1324
01:18:04,743 --> 01:18:06,711
>> that >> it could be a lot worse.

1325
01:18:06,711 --> 01:18:09,748
>> man, we'll be begging for this next -- you know, but

1326
01:18:09,748 --> 01:18:13,948
anyway that's my comment so far. >> okay.

1327
01:18:14,486 --> 01:18:16,554
>> mayor freaney: so any other questions though?

1328
01:18:16,554 --> 01:18:17,622
>> no, ma'am. >> mayor freaney: okay, all

1329
01:18:17,622 --> 01:18:20,622
right. I have a few.

1330
01:18:20,693 --> 01:18:22,761
you never ask a question you don't know the answer of I guess

1331
01:18:22,761 --> 01:18:26,231
but I'm going to ask it anyway. So when the state reduced its

1332
01:18:26,231 --> 01:18:30,102
budget how does that compare to prior budget fors them and how,

1333
01:18:30,102 --> 01:18:36,102
what are they doing to reduce their uce their budget?

1334
01:18:41,313 --> 01:18:43,582
>> they haven't reduced their budget yet.

1335
01:18:43,582 --> 01:18:45,784
they are saying they are going through an exercise with all the

1336
01:18:45,784 --> 01:18:49,187
departments, state agencies to look for efficiencies, and then

1337
01:18:49,187 --> 01:18:53,580
you know obviously a previous legislature can you know mandate

1338
01:18:53,580 --> 01:18:59,465
a future legislature to do anything, but if you talk to the

1339
01:18:59,465 --> 01:19:02,334
incoming leadership they have talked to their members it's

1340
01:19:02,334 --> 01:19:04,937
going -- member projects next year you know expect less, those

1341
01:19:04,937 --> 01:19:07,339
types of things. Which they've been saying for

1342
01:19:07,339 --> 01:19:12,544
the past few years knowing that this expected deficit is coming.

1343
01:19:12,544 --> 01:19:15,280
>> so in the areas I know they're not fully funding are

1344
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,283
some of the parks areas. You know?

1345
01:19:17,283 --> 01:19:20,618
which if they take over city parks, I have no reason to think

1346
01:19:20,618 --> 01:19:22,200
that'll go well. So.

1347
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,356
>> right I mean if amendment 3 passes I think it's going to be

1348
01:19:24,356 --> 01:19:27,626
a much different conversation in tallahassee.

1349
01:19:27,626 --> 01:19:28,560
>> right. Okay.

1350
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,830
>> pickleballs in every park. >> yeah, exactly.

1351
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:34,566
yeah. Anyway, I try not to be smackery

1352
01:19:34,566 --> 01:19:38,360
but it's -- snarky but it's hard not to be.

1353
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:43,175
>> I'm on my way out. I can be snarky.

1354
01:19:43,175 --> 01:19:45,577
>> mayor freaney: yeah. Jen, well, actually, let me ask

1355
01:19:45,577 --> 01:19:48,380
you this. On the one bill that passed.

1356
01:19:48,380 --> 01:19:54,380
sorry, I lost my sheet here. On local government spending,

1357
01:19:54,420 --> 01:19:56,722
well whoever, what do we have to do that's different than what we

1358
01:19:56,722 --> 01:19:58,857
do now? Because of the local, the local

1359
01:19:58,857 --> 01:20:01,257
government spending house bill 1329.

1360
01:20:02,528 --> 01:20:05,630
like what are we going to do differently?

1361
01:20:05,630 --> 01:20:08,300
72 >> I think one of the componens

1362
01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:11,539
of it was enabling the budget to be in a searchable format, so I

1363
01:20:11,539 --> 01:20:14,677
think even with our new, the way our budget has been prepared

1364
01:20:14,677 --> 01:20:17,812
with the software that finance is working with now, that allows

1365
01:20:17,812 --> 01:20:21,550
a little bit more of that. But there were some of those

1366
01:20:21,550 --> 01:20:23,752
components that a lot of cities and municipalities they may have

1367
01:20:23,752 --> 01:20:28,356
just posted their budget whether it was a word or a pdf document

1368
01:20:28,356 --> 01:20:33,761
that you're able to do some searchable components new in how

1369
01:20:33,761 --> 01:20:36,298
you can view the budget. So that's one thing that we want

1370
01:20:36,298 --> 01:20:40,350
to make sure we're, you know, the list of items that is, that

1371
01:20:40,350 --> 01:20:43,304
is now in the bill that we have to adhere to, obviously posting

1372
01:20:43,304 --> 01:20:45,974
the budget we have our budget posted on our web site.

1373
01:20:45,974 --> 01:20:50,174
we have several, several years of that.

1374
01:20:50,177 --> 01:20:53,581
so we're already meeting that requirement so there is some

1375
01:20:53,581 --> 01:20:56,500
little details as far as how it's posted and how it can be

1376
01:20:56,500 --> 01:20:58,653
searched and kind of compared that we need to make sure

1377
01:20:58,653 --> 01:21:00,121
we're -- >> is that going to cost us

1378
01:21:00,121 --> 01:21:03,191
money to do it differently even though we pretty much provide

1379
01:21:03,191 --> 01:21:05,461
all that information now? >> yes, potentially.

1380
01:21:05,461 --> 01:21:09,263
and we did talk about that when we were in tallahassee that some

1381
01:21:09,263 --> 01:21:12,801
of these programs that would be required to meet some of the

1382
01:21:12,801 --> 01:21:18,406
requirements of this bill or the items in this bill would require

1383
01:21:18,406 --> 01:21:21,609
municipalities to purchase software or different software.

1384
01:21:21,609 --> 01:21:25,213
I think we're in a little bit f a different position because we

1385
01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:29,150
have a software that manages our budget so we are working through

1386
01:21:29,150 --> 01:21:31,353
those. However, with a municipality

1387
01:21:31,353 --> 01:21:34,755
that doesn't, I think we actually did the math, on the,

1388
01:21:34,755 --> 01:21:37,926
on what the software would cost and it was you know millions and

1389
01:21:37,926 --> 01:21:41,429
millions of dollars across the state that cities would have to

1390
01:21:41,429 --> 01:21:42,630
spend. So at the same time you're

1391
01:21:42,630 --> 01:21:45,700
saying beer more efficient -- be more efficient, spend less, but

1392
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:50,380
then you're mandating to actually increase, so that was

1393
01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:50,840
interesting component. Jen?

1394
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,708
do you want to add? >>> well the only thing I was

1395
01:21:53,708 --> 01:21:59,847
going to add to that is that I think in 1329 there is also a

1396
01:21:59,847 --> 01:22:03,585
different process that you'll go through next year when you go

1397
01:22:03,585 --> 01:22:08,790
through your budget analysis so it'll be have to be presented

1398
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:13,595
where there will be fiscal year budget that has a 10% comparison

1399
01:22:13,595 --> 01:22:17,532
or reduction of 10% to compare with the current year so you'll

1400
01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:19,734
be going through like a different analysis than you

1401
01:22:19,734 --> 01:22:22,605
normally do with your budget that was included.

1402
01:22:22,605 --> 01:22:26,942
but with regard to adding additional things onto your web

1403
01:22:26,942 --> 01:22:30,110
site there is a laundry list of them and they have to be kept

1404
01:22:30,110 --> 01:22:33,281
for four, I think it's four years on the site.

1405
01:22:33,281 --> 01:22:36,685
while that in and of itself might be a little bit of labor

1406
01:22:36,685 --> 01:22:40,755
one of the other things that's coming in place is the different

1407
01:22:40,755 --> 01:22:43,910
ada requirements with regard to your web site, so budgetary

1408
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:50,365
information is kind of notorious for being hard to put in an ada

1409
01:22:50,365 --> 01:22:55,637
format that's you're able to easily see and use unlike word

1410
01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:59,574
documents and things like that so this additional requirement

1411
01:22:59,574 --> 01:23:03,178
coupled with when the ada requirements go into effect

1412
01:23:03,178 --> 01:23:08,450
could produce some additional, may require the city to either

1413
01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:13,321
get additional services or have additional expenses in putting

1414
01:23:13,321 --> 01:23:17,525
the required information on the web site in the legally required

1415
01:23:17,525 --> 01:23:19,127
manner. Does that make sense?

1416
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:22,330
so it's not directly from this bill but it's this bill coupled

1417
01:23:22,330 --> 01:23:26,670
with what else is coming down. >> okay.

1418
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:32,667
yeah, I mean, to me it's I believe in full transparency.

1419
01:23:43,551 --> 01:23:49,424
and jen tell me what you learned about the dei pro hibition bill

1420
01:23:49,424 --> 01:23:52,160
and what the impact is on our city.

1421
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:57,560
>> make sure you talk about scottish culture as well.

1422
01:24:00,668 --> 01:24:03,238
>> right, so let me pull it up so I don't misspeak.

1423
01:24:03,238 --> 01:24:08,638
but basically the dei bill prohibited the city from

1424
01:24:10,911 --> 01:24:13,247
promoting in particular it's cities and counties are not

1425
01:24:13,247 --> 01:24:17,452
allowed to fund, promote, or take any official action which

1426
01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:22,252
includes adoption of ordinances, programs, policies, rules, or

1427
01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:28,590
anything, as it relates to dei defined as diversity, equity,

1428
01:24:28,596 --> 01:24:33,996
and inclusion. When it comes to being an dei

1429
01:24:38,139 --> 01:24:44,110
officer not promoting anything that relates to dei that can

1430
01:24:44,110 --> 01:24:46,820
impact the events that the city has.

1431
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:49,818
and so one of the things that we've done in working together

1432
01:24:49,818 --> 01:24:54,955
with nicole and the parks staff and everyone is to identify all

1433
01:24:54,955 --> 01:25:00,895
of the events because some of those events you support also

1434
01:25:00,895 --> 01:25:06,634
some of the it could even be groups that you support that

1435
01:25:06,634 --> 01:25:11,239
have like a dei event or dei program, and.

1436
01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:15,643
>> just to be clear, dei icludes scottish culture?

1437
01:25:15,643 --> 01:25:16,244
>> yes. Yes.

1438
01:25:16,244 --> 01:25:19,470
>> I just think that the normal citizen of dunedin doesn't think

1439
01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:23,784
of it like that, and that brings it to life when you're talking

1440
01:25:23,784 --> 01:25:27,384
about you know st. Patrick's day,.

1441
01:25:27,922 --> 01:25:30,259
>> so we're having to go through those events, and just so you

1442
01:25:30,259 --> 01:25:33,928
know I mean every city is now having to go through those

1443
01:25:33,928 --> 01:25:35,930
events. We've also had to include

1444
01:25:35,930 --> 01:25:38,599
language in l of our contracts because -- in all of our

1445
01:25:38,599 --> 01:25:40,735
contracts because it affects your contractors in what their

1446
01:25:40,735 --> 01:25:45,340
policies can be, because of the certifications that your staff

1447
01:25:45,340 --> 01:25:52,540
has to make in, in stating that they're in compliance with these

1448
01:26:01,489 --> 01:26:02,690
requirements. It goes into effect january 1.

1449
01:26:02,690 --> 01:26:06,270
and then there are notably several different exemptions

1450
01:26:06,270 --> 01:26:09,764
that are provided so certain holidays that are designated by

1451
01:26:09,764 --> 01:26:12,900
federal law, certain state holidays, and then there is a

1452
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:15,304
litany of monuments and celebrations that are identified

1453
01:26:15,304 --> 01:26:17,707
in state statute. So we've kind of gone through

1454
01:26:17,707 --> 01:26:21,440
those because we just want to make sure that the city is in

1455
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:26,444
compliance with the law. >> but we're allowed to say

1456
01:26:26,648 --> 01:26:29,918
we're inclusive community, is that illegal now?

1457
01:26:29,918 --> 01:26:32,788
I'm just asking. >> this is in effect until

1458
01:26:32,788 --> 01:26:33,722
january 1. >> I'm asking a question.

1459
01:26:33,722 --> 01:26:38,260
are we allowed to say we're an incrusive -- inclusive

1460
01:26:38,260 --> 01:26:39,928
community. >> it's not prohibited per se.

1461
01:26:39,928 --> 01:26:42,731
I mean, I don't know that that's an activity.

1462
01:26:42,731 --> 01:26:46,335
>> yeah, okay, thank you. I'm just, you know, it's a

1463
01:26:46,335 --> 01:26:48,337
sledge hammer in search of a problem.

1464
01:26:48,337 --> 01:26:51,340
but anyway. >> mayor if I may just piggyback

1465
01:26:51,340 --> 01:26:53,542
on that. Within that list, jennifer, are

1466
01:26:53,542 --> 01:26:58,942
there events such as halloween, christmas which could be

1467
01:27:01,417 --> 01:27:03,552
considered dei by some groups and not by others.

1468
01:27:03,552 --> 01:27:08,352
>> so dei is specifically identified as anything that

1469
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,831
could influence competition of employees or that is a special

1470
01:27:15,831 --> 01:27:20,310
benefit or preferential treatment or recognition of

1471
01:27:20,168 --> 01:27:24,507
groups based on race, color, sex, ethnicity, gender identity,

1472
01:27:24,507 --> 01:27:29,911
and sexual orientation, so I say that when you asked about

1473
01:27:29,911 --> 01:27:35,311
scottish heritage, is that an ethnicity, a cultural heritage,

1474
01:27:36,385 --> 01:27:39,985
that would be implicated by this.

1475
01:27:40,322 --> 01:27:43,727
and so with regard to christmas and those other, yes we've had

1476
01:27:43,727 --> 01:27:46,261
to go through each one of those and identify -- some of them are

1477
01:27:46,261 --> 01:27:51,467
identified in state law as holidays that can be celebrated.

1478
01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:56,267
so therefore, they would meet the exemption criteria.

1479
01:27:56,272 --> 01:28:00,750
>> is there anybody or any way that there can be pushback, and

1480
01:28:00,750 --> 01:28:04,814
if we're allowed to celebrate christmas, and halloween, which

1481
01:28:04,814 --> 01:28:12,140
for the record, I'm a proponent of both of those holidays, for

1482
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:16,292
them to justify why they can celebrate those -- right, if

1483
01:28:16,292 --> 01:28:19,161
they're listing what we can and then what we can't, why can we

1484
01:28:19,161 --> 01:28:23,766
do the things that they say you can't?

1485
01:28:23,766 --> 01:28:28,566
what's different about those holidays and events versus

1486
01:28:28,771 --> 01:28:30,640
highland games. >> sure, those have been

1487
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,840
recognized in state statute. That's the distinction.

1488
01:28:36,712 --> 01:28:37,113
>> ah. Okay.

1489
01:28:37,113 --> 01:28:42,852
so and when I say you all understand this applies

1490
01:28:42,852 --> 01:28:49,452
specifically to each of you as a, as a public official.

1491
01:28:49,525 --> 01:28:50,793
in particular. As well as what the city can do

1492
01:28:50,793 --> 01:28:56,193
as a whole. >> what do you mean by that?

1493
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:04,140
>> so when you're acting in your official capacity, you are, you

1494
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:07,743
know, obviously limit -- or will be in january 1 limited by

1495
01:29:07,743 --> 01:29:13,949
compliance with this law and if you are found to have violated

1496
01:29:13,949 --> 01:29:18,754
this law I believe this is the one where you can be, where it's

1497
01:29:18,754 --> 01:29:21,223
considered malfeasance or misfesance of office.

1498
01:29:21,223 --> 01:29:26,429
>> o in other words if you promote as a public official if

1499
01:29:26,429 --> 01:29:29,364
you brumoted activities in opposition to the law, you could

1500
01:29:29,364 --> 01:29:34,164
be found to be in -- malfeeze malfeasance

1501
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:40,239
or missance. >> as an single elected

1502
01:29:42,445 --> 01:29:43,312
officials. >> correct.

1503
01:29:43,312 --> 01:29:44,380
which could jeopardize your position.

1504
01:29:44,380 --> 01:29:49,918
>> so at some point though we're going to spend a lot of time on

1505
01:29:49,918 --> 01:29:54,123
the specifics of holidays, events, I mean this is very

1506
01:29:54,123 --> 01:29:56,859
broad the way we talked about it right now.

1507
01:29:56,859 --> 01:29:59,862
>> right. So actually like I said, we've

1508
01:29:59,862 --> 01:30:02,464
gone through with regard to the requirements of this law the

1509
01:30:02,464 --> 01:30:05,134
language that needs to be added in for your contractors to do

1510
01:30:05,134 --> 01:30:07,670
their certification for doing business with the cities.

1511
01:30:07,670 --> 01:30:13,700
we've gone through we've identified the events and that

1512
01:30:14,810 --> 01:30:17,213
are sponsored and groups that are sponsored and have talked

1513
01:30:17,213 --> 01:30:19,681
about what could be impacted by that.

1514
01:30:19,681 --> 01:30:25,200
we're looking at the exemptions and we're doing some additional

1515
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,691
research with regard to many of the scottish festivals that a

1516
01:30:28,691 --> 01:30:31,961
memo from my office will be forthcoming on.

1517
01:30:31,961 --> 01:30:35,430
but yes. >> so we won't be put out of

1518
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:39,301
office if we promote a scottish event?

1519
01:30:39,301 --> 01:30:41,370
based on your research? Which is costing a lot of money

1520
01:30:41,370 --> 01:30:44,970
by the way. But go ahead.

1521
01:30:45,641 --> 01:30:48,644
>> well, at this point in time, you're fine.

1522
01:30:48,644 --> 01:30:50,980
because the law doesn't go into effect until january 1.

1523
01:30:50,980 --> 01:30:55,451
>> right, correct, but after. >> after january 1, I'm, I'm

1524
01:30:55,451 --> 01:30:58,120
working on an opinion as to that.

1525
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,123
as to whether or not -- >> mayor freaney: the fact that

1526
01:31:01,123 --> 01:31:02,925
that is even in question is sad. That's my point.

1527
01:31:02,925 --> 01:31:06,195
that's my point. >> so how about --

1528
01:31:06,195 --> 01:31:07,663
>> do you know when you'll have -- will we have it in

1529
01:31:07,663 --> 01:31:11,734
december, by december. >> oh, yes, you'll is before the

1530
01:31:11,734 --> 01:31:14,203
law is in effect. >> even going so far as if

1531
01:31:14,203 --> 01:31:17,340
someone wanted to rent one of our facilities, do we dig into

1532
01:31:17,340 --> 01:31:23,345
what they are, who they are or what they're there to celebrate?

1533
01:31:23,345 --> 01:31:27,216
>> so we -- so there is a difference I would say and we've

1534
01:31:27,216 --> 01:31:32,688
talked about this a little bit in like promoting activities and

1535
01:31:32,688 --> 01:31:34,823
supporting events. And allowing the public to use

1536
01:31:34,823 --> 01:31:36,559
facilities. So there are certain facilities

1537
01:31:36,559 --> 01:31:39,562
that you have that you would rent to anyone and you don't

1538
01:31:39,562 --> 01:31:42,297
really there is no discriminatory basis on whether

1539
01:31:42,297 --> 01:31:45,901
whether or not you rent to them. You know, if somebody wants to

1540
01:31:45,901 --> 01:31:51,840
you know be in the park, or using maybe tennis courts or

1541
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,778
whatever, I don't believe that you have any kind of requirement

1542
01:31:54,778 --> 01:31:57,312
for that person, and that would not change with this.

1543
01:31:57,312 --> 01:32:00,181
>> okay I'm just picturing someone walking in and saying

1544
01:32:00,181 --> 01:32:04,920
here's my $50 I want to rent the shelter at weaver park, and

1545
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,570
congratulations enjoy it and all of sodden we show up and it's

1546
01:32:08,570 --> 01:32:14,530
I'm not even going to try to imagine what could go on there.

1547
01:32:14,530 --> 01:32:17,332
>> right. And right now and I believe

1548
01:32:17,332 --> 01:32:20,669
parks iergt has this in place or -- either has this in place

1549
01:32:20,669 --> 01:32:23,892
or is working on just in that that there are policies that

1550
01:32:23,892 --> 01:32:28,230
we're not asking you know what you're renting it for, beyond

1551
01:32:28,230 --> 01:32:31,500
understanding and I will say this, with some of your event

1552
01:32:31,500 --> 01:32:34,235
permits, depending on the number of people that are going to be

1553
01:32:34,235 --> 01:32:38,373
at the event there could be other needs like you may need

1554
01:32:38,373 --> 01:32:41,976
additional garbage or you may need security or any of those

1555
01:32:41,976 --> 01:32:45,914
type of items and so for those events, you know it's more

1556
01:32:45,914 --> 01:32:50,652
asking how many are attending more than what is the event.

1557
01:32:50,652 --> 01:32:52,787
really about. >> I think we'll let it go.

1558
01:32:52,787 --> 01:32:55,523
we spend a whole day on this. Thank you, mayor.

1559
01:32:55,523 --> 01:32:57,392
>> mayor freaney: sorry, it's obviously a pet peeve.

1560
01:32:57,392 --> 01:33:00,928
I would assume if any, any place does do a legal challenge on

1561
01:33:00,928 --> 01:33:05,533
this, it would have to be after it goes into effect.

1562
01:33:05,533 --> 01:33:09,338
>> correct. >> I don't know, I guess if ife

1563
01:33:09,338 --> 01:33:13,541
head up the scottish -- we have a, you know, we spend some money

1564
01:33:13,541 --> 01:33:16,812
on welcoming a scottish group into town, what was the group

1565
01:33:16,812 --> 01:33:20,749
that was going to come? The band?

1566
01:33:20,749 --> 01:33:26,149
the soccer people? >> if we met with officials and

1567
01:33:31,626 --> 01:33:34,280
removed them, we're going to -- you know we're going to legally

1568
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:39,428
challenge this or yeah. >> mayor freaney: thank you, I

1569
01:33:52,714 --> 01:33:56,518
wanted to be a little b issnark -- bit snarky this

1570
01:33:56,518 --> 01:34:00,718
morning. Back to kind of good questions

1571
01:34:01,255 --> 01:34:04,526
here. So is there any thought that if

1572
01:34:04,526 --> 01:34:06,995
amendment -- I'm assuming florida -- I'm going to ask this

1573
01:34:06,995 --> 01:34:10,131
question, florida league too because I'm going to be on their

1574
01:34:10,131 --> 01:34:15,803
finance taxation board. Any thought that in lieu of the

1575
01:34:15,803 --> 01:34:19,274
amendment 3 not passing, that cities and counties might put

1576
01:34:19,274 --> 01:34:23,478
forward some type of more proactive approach to what would

1577
01:34:23,478 --> 01:34:27,683
be some positive thoughts on property tax reform that might

1578
01:34:27,683 --> 01:34:32,483
actually make sense? >> well, there are a few

1579
01:34:34,355 --> 01:34:35,958
components to that. Obviously we have talked about,

1580
01:34:35,958 --> 01:34:38,359
I think everybody in the room is familiar that you know in 2027,

1581
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:45,559
there is going to be a taxation commission review at the state

1582
01:34:45,767 --> 01:34:47,769
level. It's mandated in our

1583
01:34:47,769 --> 01:34:50,872
constitution every 20 years and that's on the schedule for 2027.

1584
01:34:50,872 --> 01:34:56,440
so I think if amendment 3 does not pass, you're going to have

1585
01:34:56,440 --> 01:34:58,446
in place what was intended to review the finance and taxation

1586
01:34:58,446 --> 01:35:01,784
structure of our state, at that constitutional level.

1587
01:35:01,784 --> 01:35:05,586
and I think that opportunity to actually review it to really

1588
01:35:05,586 --> 01:35:10,459
understand the -- the financial impacts really drill down into

1589
01:35:10,459 --> 01:35:12,795
what cities and counties are going to be significantly

1590
01:35:12,795 --> 01:35:14,930
impacted and how those changes can be made.

1591
01:35:14,930 --> 01:35:17,666
I think we're going to see recommendations come out of

1592
01:35:17,666 --> 01:35:21,670
there. And that's where we would be

1593
01:35:21,670 --> 01:35:27,670
able to have some discussion with our elected officials as

1594
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,816
far as we talk about this one-size-fits-all formula that

1595
01:35:34,816 --> 01:35:36,684
passes which doesn't necessarily work for every community so

1596
01:35:36,684 --> 01:35:38,553
where there are some communities that could potentially absorb

1597
01:35:38,553 --> 01:35:42,824
that sort of increase that's on the table now, there are others

1598
01:35:42,824 --> 01:35:45,824
that will be completely bankrupted.

1599
01:35:50,233 --> 01:35:54,350
there is opportunity for those other discussions, with the sun

1600
01:35:54,350 --> 01:35:56,170
coast league, through the florida league, through the

1601
01:35:56,170 --> 01:36:03,370
commission, but that's kind of,. >> I'll add to that that I think

1602
01:36:03,578 --> 01:36:07,249
you'll see with the new leadership in the house and

1603
01:36:07,249 --> 01:36:09,852
senate and whoever wins in the governor's office there is not

1604
01:36:09,852 --> 01:36:15,123
going to be such a rush to just let's go, let's go redo this

1605
01:36:15,123 --> 01:36:17,392
next session. You know, and there is going to

1606
01:36:17,392 --> 01:36:20,620
be more of a thoughtful discussion on what property tax

1607
01:36:20,620 --> 01:36:22,798
reform should really look like or tax reform in general should

1608
01:36:22,798 --> 01:36:26,998
look like. >> do you see them reapproaching

1609
01:36:27,335 --> 01:36:30,935
the insurance crisis issues? Property insurance,.

1610
01:36:31,139 --> 01:36:32,941
>> I do. I do.

1611
01:36:32,941 --> 01:36:36,144
I can you know there has been the con-- I think you know there

1612
01:36:36,144 --> 01:36:38,130
has been the constant conversation in tallahassee has

1613
01:36:38,130 --> 01:36:41,830
been we need to pass this law and give it time to kind of see

1614
01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:44,686
the effects of it. They passed it what four years

1615
01:36:44,686 --> 01:36:46,888
ago? Six years ago so I think that

1616
01:36:46,888 --> 01:36:50,692
enough time has gone by now where maybe that, that's not

1617
01:36:50,692 --> 01:36:54,960
really holding water anymore. And they'll have to look at it

1618
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,165
again and again I think with new leadership, fresh eyes in the

1619
01:36:57,165 --> 01:37:00,568
leadership positions, I think you'll see that.

1620
01:37:00,568 --> 01:37:02,568
>> that's good. Good.

1621
01:37:03,170 --> 01:37:10,179
and then with wonder too tpo you all could put together maybe a,

1622
01:37:10,179 --> 01:37:15,579
I don't know, top 10, 15, home rule intrusions that have

1623
01:37:17,718 --> 01:37:21,323
occurred. I think that it's just -- thata

1624
01:37:21,323 --> 01:37:24,659
actually makes sense to citizens that they can kind of see it,

1625
01:37:24,659 --> 01:37:27,662
touch it kind of thing. I think of the trees, you know,

1626
01:37:27,662 --> 01:37:30,931
which they did partially fix that.

1627
01:37:30,931 --> 01:37:33,468
but just ones that are really impacting our everyday citizens.

1628
01:37:33,468 --> 01:37:37,738
so they can kind of I just want to be able to have those just

1629
01:37:37,738 --> 01:37:38,740
talking points. Yes.

1630
01:37:38,740 --> 01:37:43,678
>> in addition to that how about also looks like we may need some

1631
01:37:43,678 --> 01:37:47,278
very solid clarification of live local.

1632
01:37:47,949 --> 01:37:48,483
with. >> oh, yeah.

1633
01:37:48,483 --> 01:37:52,200
>> with some projects -- >> there's one.

1634
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:52,821
[laughter] >> mayor freaney: yeah.

1635
01:37:52,821 --> 01:37:55,290
now we're all going to learn a lot about that.

1636
01:37:55,290 --> 01:38:02,430
get closer to that one. Okay I'm going to open it up for

1637
01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:03,898
public input. Anyone in the audience wish to

1638
01:38:03,898 --> 01:38:06,300
come forward and speak on this issue?

1639
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:10,370
seeing no one rushing forward, I'll close public input.

1640
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:14,237
and final comments, starting with commissioner gow.

1641
01:38:16,778 --> 01:38:20,470
>> well done. Thank you for all your hard

1642
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:20,915
work. And jennifer thank you for your

1643
01:38:20,915 --> 01:38:23,985
hard work as well. And this is no small feat, and

1644
01:38:23,985 --> 01:38:28,790
the amount of time, effort, and dollars it took for you guys to

1645
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:32,645
put this together. For us and that's just not

1646
01:38:32,645 --> 01:38:36,481
including the everyday on the phones or key boarding to

1647
01:38:36,481 --> 01:38:40,819
everyone so thank you. I just yearn for a -- because so

1648
01:38:40,819 --> 01:38:47,419
much could be done if the state legislature would actually work

1649
01:38:48,930 --> 01:38:50,295
with local municipalities and we could compromise and see a

1650
01:38:50,295 --> 01:38:54,299
single vision -- you know if we really were team florida but for

1651
01:38:54,299 --> 01:38:59,972
the las several years it just seems like we haven't been team

1652
01:38:59,972 --> 01:39:02,708
florida where we know best and you don't know what you're doing

1653
01:39:02,708 --> 01:39:04,844
and we need an adult in the room and sadly most of the time

1654
01:39:04,844 --> 01:39:10,844
inadults in the room are the municipalities not the state.

1655
01:39:14,119 --> 01:39:18,919
so anyway that's kind of of my comments.

1656
01:39:19,124 --> 01:39:20,592
>> mayor freaney: very good comments.

1657
01:39:20,592 --> 01:39:23,862
commissioner sandbergen. >> nothing really to add but

1658
01:39:23,862 --> 01:39:26,465
thanks, you work hard when you're up there, nicole and

1659
01:39:26,465 --> 01:39:29,536
laura you did a good job for us up there.

1660
01:39:29,536 --> 01:39:31,737
I thnk it was very successful and I'm still only my second

1661
01:39:31,737 --> 01:39:37,676
year up there, so maybe you know someone might disagree with that

1662
01:39:37,676 --> 01:39:41,414
but I appreciate all your hard work and I'm ready to do this

1663
01:39:41,414 --> 01:39:43,615
again this year. We'll get our plans together and

1664
01:39:43,615 --> 01:39:47,215
make it happen again. Thank you.

1665
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:52,359
>> mayor freaney: I'll justing a onto commissioner gow's

1666
01:39:52,359 --> 01:39:53,358
comments. I think they were awesome.

1667
01:39:53,358 --> 01:39:57,950
I was sitting here thinking that like I find myself you know

1668
01:39:57,950 --> 01:40:02,634
being so frustrated with the state, and how, and you kind of

1669
01:40:02,634 --> 01:40:06,234
said it. The disrespect of local.

1670
01:40:06,639 --> 01:40:07,840
we work hard for our communities.

1671
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:13,240
we work hard. And I think that the disrespect

1672
01:40:14,847 --> 01:40:17,782
is just hard to take and I just think if they would kind of have

1673
01:40:17,782 --> 01:40:19,985
a different mindset and it sounds like you're saying some

1674
01:40:19,985 --> 01:40:24,990
of the leadership coming in is maybe going to have some of that

1675
01:40:24,990 --> 01:40:27,861
and depending on who our governor is, I think that there

1676
01:40:27,861 --> 01:40:31,864
is so much opportunity and I love the team florida.

1677
01:40:31,864 --> 01:40:36,680
I mean for state, local, county, for us to work together because

1678
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:40,272
I agree like I still am a firm believer best government is

1679
01:40:40,272 --> 01:40:42,408
local we're closest to the people you can grab us at the

1680
01:40:42,408 --> 01:40:46,780
store you can grab us on the dance floor, you can grab us

1681
01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:48,947
anywhere down in the park. And you know and all of us are

1682
01:40:48,947 --> 01:40:54,753
very open and so it's very frustrating and I I understand,

1683
01:40:54,753 --> 01:40:55,687
not all communities are the same.

1684
01:40:55,687 --> 01:40:59,240
and there might be some bad actors.

1685
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,226
but treating them all the same and act like we're all bad

1686
01:41:01,226 --> 01:41:03,963
actors when most of us are not and we're not making a lot of

1687
01:41:03,963 --> 01:41:06,965
money doing this stuff either. We're doing it for love of

1688
01:41:06,965 --> 01:41:11,302
community so it's just tbruserating but -- frustrating

1689
01:41:11,302 --> 01:41:14,573
but I think your comments, jeff, were great because again, you

1690
01:41:14,573 --> 01:41:18,376
know, talking to you know our state people is, you know we're

1691
01:41:18,376 --> 01:41:23,176
people too. We work hard for the our

1692
01:41:27,252 --> 01:41:29,989
communities and we don't deserve to be disrespected.

1693
01:41:29,989 --> 01:41:32,390
we want affordability. We don't want to drive our

1694
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:35,394
people out of of our communities but we also want a quality of

1695
01:41:35,394 --> 01:41:40,599
life that people come to expect. So I think you just said that

1696
01:41:40,599 --> 01:41:44,870
well and I just think it could be so much better if we've got

1697
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:49,742
leadership in tallahassee that shows respect for the local work

1698
01:41:49,742 --> 01:41:54,613
that's done and works with us and doesn't see us as an enemy.

1699
01:41:54,613 --> 01:41:56,483
so hopefully that'll happen with the new leadership.

1700
01:41:56,483 --> 01:41:58,950
it sounds like you believe in some of that with the new

1701
01:41:58,950 --> 01:42:02,421
leadership so I like that. Anyway, so thanks for all the

1702
01:42:02,421 --> 01:42:09,210
hard work though, ladies. You guys do an amazing job up

1703
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,498
there. Laura you have done fantastic

1704
01:42:12,498 --> 01:42:14,633
job and you know we don't pay you that much and you work

1705
01:42:14,633 --> 01:42:17,703
really hard for us and it's appreciated.

1706
01:42:17,703 --> 01:42:19,638
so and nicole, you're doing a great job up there.

1707
01:42:19,638 --> 01:42:22,638
so thank you. And yeah.

1708
01:42:23,575 --> 01:42:26,578
and obviously jen I don't want to forget you because you've

1709
01:42:26,578 --> 01:42:30,515
been working your butt off on some of this stuff and

1710
01:42:30,515 --> 01:42:34,720
interpreting what they put to us so it's a lot of work.

1711
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,655
okay we're going to move on. Thank you, everybody.

1712
01:42:36,655 --> 01:42:39,459
okay we're going to go to strategic plan dashboard review.

1713
01:42:39,459 --> 01:42:46,590
this is nicole too, so. >> mayor, if I may, before we

1714
01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:51,135
get started, commissioner sandbergen, clay, was listening

1715
01:42:51,135 --> 01:42:54,472
in and he want to clarify. The water main replacement

1716
01:42:54,472 --> 01:42:58,343
project that you asked about, the limits of that are north of

1717
01:42:58,343 --> 01:43:04,343
san salvador, to north of buena vista drive on alt 19.

1718
01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:13,758
>> mayor freaney: okay. Good morning.

1719
01:43:13,758 --> 01:43:17,958
>> bye, laura. >> I love that cleared room.

1720
01:43:19,231 --> 01:43:22,231
good morning. Mayor commissioner, nicole

1721
01:43:23,335 --> 01:43:25,103
delfino, strategy and sustainability manager here to

1722
01:43:25,103 --> 01:43:26,572
provide an update on the strategic planning dashboard and

1723
01:43:26,572 --> 01:43:32,778
I will just jump right in here. So as you know, the strategic

1724
01:43:32,778 --> 01:43:37,578
plan was developed throughout 2023 and 24 where we determined

1725
01:43:37,916 --> 01:43:43,655
that we had these seven strategic themes that are listed

1726
01:43:43,655 --> 01:43:47,525
here. All of the themes then had

1727
01:43:47,525 --> 01:43:49,394
goals, objectives, and action items under them.

1728
01:43:49,394 --> 01:43:54,667
I'm not going to review every sickle item that -- single item

1729
01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:56,934
that lives under each theme but this is kind of a summary of

1730
01:43:56,934 --> 01:43:59,604
what the goals are within those themes.

1731
01:43:59,604 --> 01:44:02,940
and how the plan was developed. Again, this is the second part

1732
01:44:02,940 --> 01:44:04,676
of it. We couldn't fit everything on

1733
01:44:04,676 --> 01:44:10,760
one slide. But you'll see there a few kind

1734
01:44:10,882 --> 01:44:16,882
of overarching goals the plan itself, the themes and the

1735
01:44:21,359 --> 01:44:28,300
goals, we then wanted to put it on a dashboard so we explored

1736
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:31,360
our options. We settled on a dashboard called

1737
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:32,904
clear point. I know you've looked at this a

1738
01:44:32,904 --> 01:44:36,174
little bit before. This is our internal facing

1739
01:44:36,174 --> 01:44:41,600
dashboard and there are a lot of really great tools that the

1740
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,860
dashboard offers as far as reports and summaries.

1741
01:44:49,403 --> 01:44:56,603
there are staff working on the items so 120 or so action items

1742
01:44:57,477 --> 01:45:01,147
and each action item is assigned to a staff member or lead

1743
01:45:01,147 --> 01:45:03,683
employee and they're responsible on a quarterly basis for

1744
01:45:03,683 --> 01:45:08,483
updating that item, providing information, indicating how far

1745
01:45:10,900 --> 01:45:12,692
along the process it's complete and then once it's complete

1746
01:45:12,692 --> 01:45:15,962
marking that item as complete so all of those components of those

1747
01:45:15,962 --> 01:45:19,899
action items are then able to then be filtered in various ways

1748
01:45:19,899 --> 01:45:24,437
and again just to kind of showing a building on how we're

1749
01:45:24,437 --> 01:45:27,774
ultimately getting to the external dashboard because the

1750
01:45:27,774 --> 01:45:32,912
external dashboard really is built with the data that lives

1751
01:45:32,912 --> 01:45:39,512
in this internal dashboard. Again so the first phase of the

1752
01:45:40,386 --> 01:45:43,189
software was to upload the entire strategic plan so that

1753
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:49,610
was, that was completed first. Then we moved on to uploading

1754
01:45:49,610 --> 01:45:55,268
the cip and bpi initiatives. And so with, within, with having

1755
01:45:55,268 --> 01:46:00,807
that capability of the cip and bpi capital improvement plan and

1756
01:46:00,807 --> 01:46:04,407
business initiatives just for the record.

1757
01:46:11,484 --> 01:46:16,884
>> well it's organized by department and that was the

1758
01:46:24,297 --> 01:46:28,497
first one. >> right, within each city cip

1759
01:46:29,636 --> 01:46:34,707
and bpi they are now tied into this internal dashboard within a

1760
01:46:34,707 --> 01:46:37,377
theme and then a goal and objective within the theme so

1761
01:46:37,377 --> 01:46:40,647
again it allows us to run lot of reports to understand how many

1762
01:46:40,647 --> 01:46:42,649
items are assigned to which theme.

1763
01:46:42,649 --> 01:46:44,717
this is just an overview here. I know it's very small because

1764
01:46:44,717 --> 01:46:49,550
it's a screen shot but this is an overview where you can see

1765
01:46:49,550 --> 01:46:52,392
there in the strategic theme the designation whether it's a

1766
01:46:52,392 --> 01:46:57,792
community amenity, good governance, so and on so forth.

1767
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,203
again this is just another view of how data can be sliced and

1768
01:47:04,203 --> 01:47:06,839
died so to speak. This is just pulling the

1769
01:47:06,839 --> 01:47:11,278
community amenity cip, bpi, and again all of this can be run as

1770
01:47:11,278 --> 01:47:13,212
reports within the system as well.

1771
01:47:13,212 --> 01:47:18,752
and now that we've been using the system for over a year now,

1772
01:47:18,752 --> 01:47:22,288
there is starting to be some good data in there.

1773
01:47:22,288 --> 01:47:26,827
so as we moved on from there, I'm going to skip the screen

1774
01:47:26,827 --> 01:47:29,495
shot, but as we moved on from there, it was really important

1775
01:47:29,495 --> 01:47:34,100
to build up some of that data, get staff comfortable with using

1776
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:38,571
a new system, in order to then create this external dashboard.

1777
01:47:38,571 --> 01:47:43,109
and so again, all of the data that's being pulled onto the

1778
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:48,509
external dashboard is coming from this clear point software.

1779
01:47:49,316 --> 01:47:55,316
and so now. >> this is on our web site now.

1780
01:47:56,122 --> 01:47:58,524
>> I actually do want to shift over and show you a kind of a

1781
01:47:58,524 --> 01:48:04,650
live view to so to speak, but just so everybody is aware.

1782
01:48:04,650 --> 01:48:05,864
when I created this presentation, the update to our

1783
01:48:05,864 --> 01:48:07,934
web site hadn't bip completed but I will show -- been

1784
01:48:07,934 --> 01:48:09,468
completed but I will show you where it's at.

1785
01:48:09,468 --> 01:48:16,668
it's exactly when you go to the home page, strategic themes, yu

1786
01:48:20,546 --> 01:48:23,820
can access the dashboard there. It will live in the strategy and

1787
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:26,886
sustainability page on the web site so there'll be a few

1788
01:48:26,886 --> 01:48:29,222
different ways to find it and access and then of course there

1789
01:48:29,222 --> 01:48:36,422
is direct access if you're wanting to pin it or book mark

1790
01:48:37,363 --> 01:48:39,298
it. Then you can check on it there.

1791
01:48:39,298 --> 01:48:42,769
I'm going to switch gears just for one moment just so you all

1792
01:48:42,769 --> 01:48:47,840
can see where it lives now. So like I mentioned this is

1793
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,308
accheag a live view of the web site.

1794
01:48:49,308 --> 01:48:52,545
it has been updated so there at the top of the ribbon it says

1795
01:48:52,545 --> 01:48:57,783
community dashboard. That's where you can click on it

1796
01:48:57,783 --> 01:49:02,989
to select the dashboard, and it'll take you right there

1797
01:49:02,989 --> 01:49:05,924
within the dashboard itself. This is what it looks like when

1798
01:49:05,924 --> 01:49:10,724
you open it. Here, remember when we talked

1799
01:49:12,266 --> 01:49:13,399
about building the strategic plan.

1800
01:49:13,399 --> 01:49:19,999
we talked about it all goess back to those seven themes.

1801
01:49:22,542 --> 01:49:25,277
you can click on any of the themes here to be able to see

1802
01:49:25,277 --> 01:49:27,748
some of those measures. Of course I do want to preface

1803
01:49:27,748 --> 01:49:34,348
you know we selected some initial measures to kind of push

1804
01:49:39,492 --> 01:49:40,693
out. The local environment, the state

1805
01:49:40,693 --> 01:49:42,761
environment. If there are things that become

1806
01:49:42,761 --> 01:49:46,320
more critical to measure that it allows us the flexibility to

1807
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:50,232
change the measurements that are being displayed.

1808
01:49:52,705 --> 01:49:55,841
again, these measurements I'll show you example here, I'll

1809
01:49:55,841 --> 01:50:03,410
actually go here to, when you click on this, you're going to

1810
01:50:06,252 --> 01:50:10,256
see four different measures specific to city services.

1811
01:50:10,256 --> 01:50:15,560
we've got some training. We've got fire response.

1812
01:50:16,696 --> 01:50:22,960
street sweeping and you can click on any item.

1813
01:50:30,142 --> 01:50:32,745
I'm used to a touch screen and this is not one.

1814
01:50:32,745 --> 01:50:35,882
so this again, the data is being pulled from the dashboard, so

1815
01:50:35,882 --> 01:50:41,282
the updates are made in the clear point software.

1816
01:50:43,289 --> 01:50:45,224
what it details is the description of the dash board,

1817
01:50:45,224 --> 01:50:49,108
what qlear r we're looking at fnghts -- we're looking, what is

1818
01:50:49,108 --> 01:50:51,977
the goal of tracking this, why is this important to the

1819
01:50:51,977 --> 01:50:54,312
community that we maintain the emergency response time of

1820
01:50:54,312 --> 01:50:56,849
course that's something that's important.

1821
01:50:56,849 --> 01:51:03,388
but you can look through each of these various items that are

1822
01:51:03,388 --> 01:51:08,860
selected to you know see additional details to see what's

1823
01:51:08,860 --> 01:51:12,330
been completed. We've got goals set as far as

1824
01:51:12,330 --> 01:51:15,930
this is the street sweeping measurement.

1825
01:51:16,467 --> 01:51:21,730
goal set as far as how many miles are swept and then what is

1826
01:51:21,730 --> 01:51:24,543
actually achieved. So those being tracked again in

1827
01:51:24,543 --> 01:51:30,543
specific departments. And if there is in this case, in

1828
01:51:30,748 --> 01:51:32,951
quarter 2 we didn't reach our goal but there was an

1829
01:51:32,951 --> 01:51:39,920
explanation for that as far as the truck was being serviced.

1830
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,927
but this is I know we had I think the mayor you had actually

1831
01:51:42,927 --> 01:51:46,632
mentioned in one of our budget sessions wanting to have this

1832
01:51:46,632 --> 01:51:48,834
brought forward. It has been complete for a

1833
01:51:48,834 --> 01:51:51,350
little while. We got a little side tracked

1834
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:56,435
with special session. But within this again you can

1835
01:51:57,642 --> 01:52:01,913
really select any of the themes to drill down into those items

1836
01:52:01,913 --> 01:52:07,118
that are being measured. I will go to environment here.

1837
01:52:07,118 --> 01:52:11,657
we have natalie is tracking our solar energy production and this

1838
01:52:11,657 --> 01:52:13,992
is looking at, this is a lot of data.

1839
01:52:13,992 --> 01:52:19,640
but this is looking at the energy production that our three

1840
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,668
facilities are making and how it's kind of tracking with

1841
01:52:22,668 --> 01:52:30,468
what's expected and she did that as an average over the last few

1842
01:52:32,344 --> 01:52:34,279
years. To put the targeted information

1843
01:52:34,279 --> 01:52:38,417
in. So do you all have any

1844
01:52:38,417 --> 01:52:39,684
questions. >> questions.

1845
01:52:39,684 --> 01:52:42,540
commissioner sandbergen? >> I guess my only question is

1846
01:52:42,540 --> 01:52:47,893
are we getting this word out to the citizens and the public.

1847
01:52:47,893 --> 01:52:51,897
and if so, how? >> well, this is the

1848
01:52:51,897 --> 01:52:57,297
introduction so I have worked with sue burr ness.

1849
01:52:57,836 --> 01:53:04,377
we will probably do a blog post or story ncluded in the

1850
01:53:04,377 --> 01:53:06,578
newsletter. She can reference it whether its

1851
01:53:06,578 --> 01:53:10,115
in social media, other articles that are written by other

1852
01:53:10,115 --> 01:53:12,784
departments, if they talk about anything that's related to one

1853
01:53:12,784 --> 01:53:17,989
of of our measures we certainly can link that back so we'll have

1854
01:53:17,989 --> 01:53:22,189
that constant reference back to the dashboard.

1855
01:53:39,543 --> 01:53:43,682
>> commissioner gow. >> I have been talking about a

1856
01:53:43,682 --> 01:53:46,840
dashboard I know how long. This will certainly help us,

1857
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,688
it'll help staff, and certainly it'll help the residents.

1858
01:53:48,688 --> 01:53:52,624
and it might be in here and I'm just not seeing it now.

1859
01:53:52,624 --> 01:53:59,296
but I thought it would be nice if we could add I don't know

1860
01:53:59,296 --> 01:54:04,696
where good governance but more really detailed financial stuff.

1861
01:54:06,538 --> 01:54:09,307
so the residents are more aware on how much things cost, why

1862
01:54:09,307 --> 01:54:12,777
we're doing that project, where the money is coming from.

1863
01:54:12,777 --> 01:54:14,345
right? Because it could be it's not

1864
01:54:14,345 --> 01:54:18,850
even dunedin money. They're upset about it but it's

1865
01:54:18,850 --> 01:54:22,120
not dunedin money. It's county, it's state, it's

1866
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:23,587
federal. The more we can educate, the

1867
01:54:23,587 --> 01:54:26,725
more transparent we can be with our residents, the better

1868
01:54:26,725 --> 01:54:30,728
educated they can be. The better residents they'll be.

1869
01:54:30,728 --> 01:54:35,660
>> yes, and I will say I know you know with sue burrness and

1870
01:54:35,660 --> 01:54:38,603
our communication team, we have transitioned our project pages

1871
01:54:38,603 --> 01:54:42,807
and so a lot of time when residents have questions about

1872
01:54:42,807 --> 01:54:47,278
specific projects, you know, they can go to our web site,

1873
01:54:47,278 --> 01:54:50,878
they can go access project pages,

1874
01:54:54,850 --> 01:54:56,880
and then see a lot of that information.

1875
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,891
a description on the project, the time line, the documents

1876
01:54:59,891 --> 01:55:03,290
associated with, the funding, there's now, with the change in

1877
01:55:03,290 --> 01:55:06,631
the project pages, which was made recently, residents can

1878
01:55:06,631 --> 01:55:09,701
sign up for notifications, when something is updated on that

1879
01:55:09,701 --> 01:55:13,301
project page. They can post questions.

1880
01:55:16,707 --> 01:55:21,507
it's a little more interactive for a resident.

1881
01:55:22,847 --> 01:55:27,470
when people again -- communications team takes

1882
01:55:27,852 --> 01:55:31,789
references, those project pages quite a bit.

1883
01:55:31,789 --> 01:55:35,590
if somebody has a question on it, that's sent to them, so they

1884
01:55:35,590 --> 01:55:38,863
can keep tracking it, we don't have project pages for

1885
01:55:38,863 --> 01:55:41,199
everything we do. However, a lot of our big

1886
01:55:41,199 --> 01:55:45,471
projects we do, impactful projects, those all have

1887
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independent pages that have a lot of that information there.

1888
01:55:49,941 --> 01:55:54,141
>> thank you. That's all I have, mayor.

1889
01:55:55,279 --> 01:56:00,679
>> mayor freaney: if I go to multimodal transit and

1890
01:56:06,157 --> 01:56:07,559
pedestrians/bicyclist, can you explain that to me?

1891
01:56:07,559 --> 01:56:09,559
>> this here? >> yes.

1892
01:56:11,229 --> 01:56:15,330
so through our community development team, they work with

1893
01:56:15,330 --> 01:56:21,330
our sheriff's office and other agencies, as far as tracking

1894
01:56:22,106 --> 01:56:26,906
accidents, incidents. That sort of thing, and so

1895
01:56:27,645 --> 01:56:33,450
unfortunately, in this case our target is obviously zero.

1896
01:56:33,317 --> 01:56:39,317
our target was that there are zero fatalities, incidents when

1897
01:56:39,858 --> 01:56:44,864
it comes to pedestrians, bicyclists and golf carts, in

1898
01:56:44,864 --> 01:56:48,466
the past we've had incidences, and we're tracking and reporting

1899
01:56:48,466 --> 01:56:53,266
them. One of the things that we hope

1900
01:56:55,940 --> 01:57:00,489
occurs. I know we talked about the trail

1901
01:57:00,489 --> 01:57:03,424
crossing in 580, and the things put in place to improve that

1902
01:57:03,424 --> 01:57:06,227
intersection. The hope is, those sorts of

1903
01:57:06,227 --> 01:57:10,431
things reduce incidences that happen in those areas, where

1904
01:57:10,431 --> 01:57:16,431
there's a lot of contact between vehicles and other individuals

1905
01:57:20,410 --> 01:57:24,241
>> mayor freaney: so october 2025 there were one.

1906
01:57:28,649 --> 01:57:32,920
why does it have one, one, one. >> there was one in october and

1907
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,858
one in november is what this is reporting.

1908
01:57:35,858 --> 01:57:42,330
>> mayor freaney: yeah, but if you look at it, on the left

1909
01:57:42,330 --> 01:57:44,599
axle, 00111. >> on the graph?

1910
01:57:44,599 --> 01:57:50,599
>> yeah, I see, I will take a look at that.

1911
01:57:52,340 --> 01:57:54,342
it looks like it's just an error.

1912
01:57:54,342 --> 01:57:58,546
>> you could interpret that to be three in each month.

1913
01:57:58,546 --> 01:58:06,346
which I know -- okay, so -- I mean it's a good start.

1914
01:58:07,154 --> 01:58:13,754
I'm used to the dashboard being like, you look at 10 different

1915
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:17,632
things when you -- when I was director of pinellas county

1916
01:58:17,632 --> 01:58:21,102
animal services, every mornin I came in and could immediately

1917
01:58:21,102 --> 01:58:27,702
see number of dogs, number of cats, number of citations given

1918
01:58:32,179 --> 01:58:35,449
the day before -- and I don't know what those comparables

1919
01:58:35,449 --> 01:58:37,985
would be with us. It seems like there's a lot more

1920
01:58:37,985 --> 01:58:40,855
information to add. Maybe this is the starting

1921
01:58:40,855 --> 01:58:44,258
categories or it doesn't have -- >> there's a lot to read too

1922
01:58:44,258 --> 01:58:48,458
with people. Versus dashboard to me is

1923
01:58:56,700 --> 01:58:59,600
that -- it says a lot. >> yes, this initial push was to

1924
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,770
get it started. We know that we want to keep

1925
01:59:02,770 --> 01:59:08,770
refining it. As I mentioned, we have a lot of

1926
01:59:10,684 --> 01:59:14,154
action items in the plan itself, we don't wan 9 to overwhelm

1927
01:59:14,154 --> 01:59:18,892
people when they go to the dashboard, you say, there's 120

1928
01:59:18,892 --> 01:59:22,763
measurements and then you get so bogged down, you really end up

1929
01:59:22,763 --> 01:59:25,899
not exploring those. We tried to pick some high

1930
01:59:25,899 --> 01:59:29,236
priority items that we are currently tracking or measuring,

1931
01:59:29,236 --> 01:59:33,307
that we can start to report out, we have worked with with

1932
01:59:33,307 --> 01:59:36,444
departments on things we want to measure, that are important to

1933
01:59:36,444 --> 01:59:39,580
measure, so we know that those departments are having too make

1934
01:59:39,580 --> 01:59:42,983
those changes as far as tracking the information they hadn't been

1935
01:59:42,983 --> 01:59:49,583
tracking in the past. So that's -- it's all been part

1936
01:59:50,857 --> 01:59:54,595
of the process, changing how we've always done things in some

1937
01:59:54,595 --> 01:59:57,598
cases, my favorite. To really kind of understand the

1938
01:59:57,598 --> 02:00:04,604
data and how it tells the story, and how it's really getting us

1939
02:00:04,604 --> 02:00:08,875
to where we want to be. >> mayor, I piggyback?

1940
02:00:08,875 --> 02:00:13,675
>> mayor freaney: yeah. >> it focuses on fatalities and

1941
02:00:15,483 --> 02:00:19,830
that was a bicyclist fatality, right?

1942
02:00:19,620 --> 02:00:20,821
question? >> yes.

1943
02:00:20,821 --> 02:00:25,920
>> and because the headline is pedestrians, bicyclists and golf

1944
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:32,292
carts that leads to the question of, why -- was this a

1945
02:00:33,834 --> 02:00:34,970
pedestrians, bicyclist, golf cart.

1946
02:00:34,970 --> 02:00:38,572
I don't know if they need to be different colors or -- I don't

1947
02:00:38,572 --> 02:00:43,844
know if that's -- or is it just, it will all be blue and --

1948
02:00:43,844 --> 02:00:47,915
>> we can work on separating that data, and reflecting in the

1949
02:00:47,915 --> 02:00:50,651
graph in a different way. >> I appreciate that we're

1950
02:00:50,651 --> 02:00:57,258
focusing on deaths, that's good. But do we also have a groove for

1951
02:00:57,258 --> 02:01:01,529
just accidents or citations? Because the public just screams

1952
02:01:01,529 --> 02:01:05,732
and hollers about right now, it's e bikes, right?

1953
02:01:05,732 --> 02:01:09,403
at least we'll be able to show the residents, there's been

1954
02:01:09,403 --> 02:01:12,673
three citations given this month, so they know we're

1955
02:01:12,673 --> 02:01:16,744
trying, we're doing something, we're not ignoring the

1956
02:01:16,744 --> 02:01:17,945
situation. >> yeah.

1957
02:01:17,945 --> 02:01:22,550
>> that's why I like the transparency and the outward

1958
02:01:22,550 --> 02:01:26,620
facing so they can at least see. >> the great thing with this

1959
02:01:26,620 --> 02:01:30,230
dashboard, we can add and change however we want to change it.

1960
02:01:30,230 --> 02:01:33,160
we've built it, and we can modify it.

1961
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:36,760
>> the balance between information and paralysis

1962
02:01:36,897 --> 02:01:39,834
through analysis. >> 00, let's have another graph,

1963
02:01:39,834 --> 02:01:43,237
and it gets out of control, because one resident says, hey,

1964
02:01:43,237 --> 02:01:48,370
what about this? Responding to at least those

1965
02:01:50,177 --> 02:01:53,180
major categories would be good. Sorry, mayor.

1966
02:01:53,180 --> 02:01:54,448
>> mayor freaney: no, that's okay.

1967
02:01:54,448 --> 02:01:58,652
same thing, if I go to amenities and it says membership levels,

1968
02:01:58,652 --> 02:02:02,856
the first thing I thought was golf course membership, because

1969
02:02:02,856 --> 02:02:09,596
it has golf course rounds. No, that's too high to be golf

1970
02:02:09,596 --> 02:02:14,134
course membership. I call them I d cards, I assume

1971
02:02:14,134 --> 02:02:17,471
that's the equivalent of what you're calling membership?

1972
02:02:17,471 --> 02:02:22,871
>> yes, that is the case. >> which is interesting, because

1973
02:02:23,944 --> 02:02:27,414
that seems low to me. 500 something.

1974
02:02:27,414 --> 02:02:29,483
>> and it's tracked on a monthly basis, though.

1975
02:02:29,483 --> 02:02:33,683
>> yeah. >> well, that goes back to, I

1976
02:02:34,689 --> 02:02:37,891
think we should be requiring nonresident the cards for

1977
02:02:37,891 --> 02:02:43,891
outdoor facilities, but that's an argument left to be had,

1978
02:02:45,499 --> 02:02:47,901
because then everybody would be having them.

1979
02:02:47,901 --> 02:02:50,838
yeah, I mean, I -- okay, that's all my questions.

1980
02:02:50,838 --> 02:02:55,643
I'm going to open it up for public input.

1981
02:02:55,643 --> 02:03:02,843
anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this

1982
02:03:03,250 --> 02:03:05,794
issue? And I will open -- close it from

1983
02:03:05,794 --> 02:03:08,196
public input, I don't see anyone.

1984
02:03:08,196 --> 02:03:10,732
final comments, starting with commissioner sandbergen?

1985
02:03:10,732 --> 02:03:13,535
>> I think this is really a dynamic program.

1986
02:03:13,535 --> 02:03:16,738
it's going to be a lot of work to keep it updated.

1987
02:03:16,738 --> 02:03:20,275
and it would be so nice if the public would simply go here to

1988
02:03:20,275 --> 02:03:26,681
find the answer rather than go out on social media or any other

1989
02:03:26,681 --> 02:03:29,885
way to ask what or who or how much.

1990
02:03:29,885 --> 02:03:32,487
this is going to give the answers, it's going to be

1991
02:03:32,487 --> 02:03:36,824
important, keep it up to date and keep it in front of the

1992
02:03:36,824 --> 02:03:39,227
citizens that have those questions, thanks, nicole.

1993
02:03:39,227 --> 02:03:42,430
>> commissioner gow? >> I certainly agree with my

1994
02:03:42,430 --> 02:03:46,968
colleagues comments. This is fabulous, and probably a

1995
02:03:46,968 --> 02:03:50,238
great start. We can go down rabbit holes real

1996
02:03:50,238 --> 02:03:53,308
quickly on this, and you probably used -- I'm not sure

1997
02:03:53,308 --> 02:03:56,912
how you came up with these categories, you may have said

1998
02:03:56,912 --> 02:04:02,918
it, I may have missed it, but I would also reach out to --

1999
02:04:02,918 --> 02:04:04,786
>> mayor freaney: those are our categories, right?

2000
02:04:04,786 --> 02:04:08,386
>> we did, right. >> you created those.

2001
02:04:08,924 --> 02:04:09,925
>> right, we do. >> mayor freaney: I didn't mean

2002
02:04:09,925 --> 02:04:15,129
to jump in. But do you actually reach out to

2003
02:04:15,129 --> 02:04:18,466
the residents? Because it's -- most of them are

2004
02:04:18,466 --> 02:04:21,603
fine, they work well, but you have those keyboard warriors

2005
02:04:21,603 --> 02:04:25,140
that will just absolutely complain about anything.

2006
02:04:25,140 --> 02:04:28,609
and you're never going to get rid of them, if we can at least

2007
02:04:28,609 --> 02:04:32,814
reach out to some of them and say, hey, how can we make this

2008
02:04:32,814 --> 02:04:36,552
better, we'll show good will in an attempt.

2009
02:04:36,552 --> 02:04:42,240
anything that keeps them from just posting the question into

2010
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,159
the atmosphere, all right? Hoping somebody will answer

2011
02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:47,159
them. The answer is here.

2012
02:04:47,963 --> 02:04:50,498
but well done. Thank you, nicole.

2013
02:04:50,498 --> 02:04:53,702
>> mayor freaney: I did love how someone in our community, who we

2014
02:04:53,702 --> 02:04:57,572
all know put something out on social media yesterday and thin

2015
02:04:57,572 --> 02:05:01,308
later in the day actually said, oh, that's why the city shuts

2016
02:05:01,308 --> 02:05:04,779
their comments off. Because you may actually learn

2017
02:05:04,779 --> 02:05:09,117
some things, and people talk facts and they think -- I think

2018
02:05:09,117 --> 02:05:13,321
he gained ed some knowledge fro his post.

2019
02:05:13,321 --> 02:05:19,921
I think teit's a good start. But it's definitely got work.

2020
02:05:20,395 --> 02:05:24,532
and I -- and the biggest thing for me is, what's the most

2021
02:05:24,532 --> 02:05:28,336
important data that somebody wants to see.

2022
02:05:28,336 --> 02:05:31,139
one of my suggestions, if you haven't already done it, I think

2023
02:05:31,139 --> 02:05:36,544
if you have a few citizen focus groups together to see, when I

2024
02:05:36,544 --> 02:05:40,482
go and think about -- including us, because there's stuff that I

2025
02:05:40,482 --> 02:05:43,217
like to see. And I think you're -- hitting on

2026
02:05:43,217 --> 02:05:47,422
some stuff, but it's -- I think some really good focus groups on

2027
02:05:47,422 --> 02:05:52,627
what some of the key data that actually tells the story the

2028
02:05:52,627 --> 02:05:55,229
best. Because my fear is, if you send

2029
02:05:55,229 --> 02:05:58,833
people to something that's just adds more questions, it doesn't

2030
02:05:58,833 --> 02:06:03,237
solve the issues, what are the key data that would actually

2031
02:06:03,237 --> 02:06:08,576
create this kind of a more holistic view of what's going

2032
02:06:08,576 --> 02:06:11,312
on. Focus groups, citizens and the

2033
02:06:11,312 --> 02:06:13,381
question would be awesome. That's my suggestion.

2034
02:06:13,381 --> 02:06:16,451
I know you don't have anything else to do, so there you go.

2035
02:06:16,451 --> 02:06:20,788
>> you're right, I don't. As part of the strategic project

2036
02:06:20,788 --> 02:06:24,593
plan we were planning in 2027 to revisit, it will be at that

2037
02:06:24,593 --> 02:06:28,730
point, a few years old, and we said it's a 3 to 5 year plan,

2038
02:06:28,730 --> 02:06:33,680
we're not looking to make significant changes, again,

2039
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,270
things happen. That may shift some of those

2040
02:06:36,270 --> 02:06:39,540
priorities, we want to revisit not just with the commisson,

2041
02:06:39,540 --> 02:06:43,811
but I have talked with sue burness about doing a community

2042
02:06:43,811 --> 02:06:46,147
forum, it's a perfect opportunity to have them review

2043
02:06:46,147 --> 02:06:48,349
this and give them feedback there as well.

2044
02:06:48,349 --> 02:06:51,353
that's it. >> we started out the venture,

2045
02:06:51,353 --> 02:06:53,755
and it was all about the dashboard at the end.

2046
02:06:53,755 --> 02:06:57,426
got to be good data going in, I realize that you guys are just

2047
02:06:57,426 --> 02:07:00,828
trying to get -- change the culture, make sure we're getting

2048
02:07:00,828 --> 02:07:04,833
good data in, but at the end of the day, it's all about

2049
02:07:04,833 --> 02:07:08,570
dashboards that have the best key indicators.

2050
02:07:08,570 --> 02:07:11,106
and we want to make sure we hit those.

2051
02:07:11,106 --> 02:07:13,106
>> okay. >> okay.

2052
02:07:14,642 --> 02:07:18,780
I think -- anything else for -- I think we're good for this one,

2053
02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:22,585
thank you, nicole. You have a lot of balls in the

2054
02:07:22,585 --> 02:07:24,985
air. We appreciate that.

2055
02:07:26,187 --> 02:07:29,187
any other informational items, jorge?

2056
02:07:29,791 --> 02:07:31,994
we didn't really make you work much?

2057
02:07:31,994 --> 02:07:39,801
>> no, but I'd like to point out the time on the clock, and --

2058
02:07:39,801 --> 02:07:42,270
>> this is the earliest in a while.

2059
02:07:42,270 --> 02:07:45,720
even julie came back. >> mayor freaney: I love it.

2060
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,677
well, we didn't have those two -- we'll blame them for --

2061
02:07:48,677 --> 02:07:56,477
hey, if we had you two here, it would have been going until

2062
02:07:58,286 --> 02:08:01,886
12:30 for sure. >> mayor freaney: anything else

2063
02:08:03,492 --> 02:08:08,296
for the good of the order. >> I will make a more formal

2064
02:08:08,296 --> 02:08:11,433
comment on thursday, but at least want to mention that

2065
02:08:11,433 --> 02:08:14,168
september is suicide awareness month.

2066
02:08:14,168 --> 02:08:18,906
so please stay one more day. And you are enough.

2067
02:08:18,906 --> 02:08:20,308
>> mayor freaney: love it. Love it.

2068
02:08:20,308 --> 02:08:22,644
I do want to say during our little break.

2069
02:08:22,644 --> 02:08:26,580
I ventured over for the first time in a long time to

2070
02:08:26,580 --> 02:08:31,519
clearwater marine aquarium, and got to see up close and

2071
02:08:31,519 --> 02:08:34,789
personal, hope the dolphin. It was good, they've done some

2072
02:08:34,789 --> 02:08:36,991
great chains over there since I've been there.

2073
02:08:36,991 --> 02:08:39,193
it was great, I highly recommend it.

2074
02:08:39,193 --> 02:08:42,530
and it was pretty cool. And if you got a kid, that's

2075
02:08:42,530 --> 02:08:44,799
even better, because they'll be into it.

2076
02:08:44,799 --> 02:08:50,799
I don't think anything else? Jen, you got anything else?

2077
02:08:50,871 --> 02:08:52,873
michelle? >> first night of citizen's

2078
02:08:52,873 --> 02:08:55,343
academy this evening. >> mayor freaney: oh, yeah.

2079
02:08:55,343 --> 02:08:59,214
we have to be here at what time? >> we begin aat 6:00.

2080
02:08:59,214 --> 02:09:04,819
>> mayor freaney: sounds good, we'll be here, let's adjourn the

2081
02:09:04,819 --> 02:09:06,000
meeting.