[0:23] Everybody had a chance to review the
minutes from the last meeting.
[0:30] Motion to approve.
Second.
[0:33] Made by Commissioner Marsh. Second by
Commissioner Pelton to approve the
[0:35] minutes from the last meeting. Any
discussion? Any discussion? Hearing
[0:41] none. All in favor say I.
I.
[0:42] I.
All opposed. Motion carried. And on to
[0:46] the agenda. Commissioner Marsh.
No.
[0:49] Mr. Pelton.
No.
[0:52] I have no additions. Entertain a motion
for approval of the agenda as presented.
[0:59] Motion to approve.
Motion made by Commissioner Marsh,
[1:02] seconded by Commissioner Pelton to
approve the agenda as presented. Is
[1:06] there any discussion? Any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
[1:10] I.
I.........................................
[1:11] All. Opposed. Motion carried. Okay.
Before we turn it over to the road
[1:16] department, we need to do the oath of
office for the auditor. Since she was an
[1:20] intern. She needs to take office
immediately.
[1:27] Could you speak please?
Sally Whan. do solemnly swear that I
[1:32] will support the Constitution of the
United States and the Constitution of
[1:35] the State of North Dakota and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office of
[1:40] auditor treasurer of the county of Dunn
and the state of North Dakota to the
[1:44] best of my ability. So, help me.
[1:50] Congratulations.
Okay, now we'll turn it over to Terry
[1:54] with the road department.
[1:59] I guess we're finishing up graveling
right now and depending on weather we
[2:03] might start hauling a little skoria
mowing. They got about one day left
[2:10] and I guess I don't know the other thing
I wanted to bring up is the 103rd Avenue
[2:16] on the east side of Kilder there. The
pavement's marked at 35 and the city was
[2:21] talking maybe we could go to 45 on that.
So, I guess I don't know if you guys
[2:25] want to entertain a motion to do that
pending the city's results.
[2:31] I think that's a good idea.
I move that we follow whatever the city
[2:35] sets for a speed limit on 103rd off of
200.
[2:40] Is there a second?
Second.
[2:41] Motion made by Commissioner Pelton,
second by Commissioner Marsh to set the
[2:45] speed limit on 103rd uh following uh the
city's recommendation.
[2:51] Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing
none. All in favor say I.
[2:55] I.
All opposed. Motion carried.
[3:00] I guess we can move on to the engineers.
[3:10] Morning.
Morning. Should be fairly brief for you
[3:14] guys today. um
[3:20] uh the 86th Avenue and 82nd Avenue
projects uh kind of in the same well I
[3:26] guess they're not really in similar
conditions at 86th Avenue we're we're
[3:30] trying to work with Shipo to uh see what
we have for an avenue going forward. Uh
[3:35] 92nd Avenue
um that is planned for 2025
[3:39] construction. We do have the permit for
that project. We're currently working on
[3:42] easements
uh for that roadway. So, we just need to
[3:47] get those wrapped up this winter and out
for bid. Uh 100th Avenue uh permit has
[3:53] been secured on that. We do I do have a
few meetings set up to finalize the
[3:56] easements over the next couple weeks. Uh
do expect to have this wrapped up soon
[4:00] as well. Planning for 2025 construction.
Uh I started putting together
[4:06] advertising for uh December meeting
potentially uh depending on how these
[4:11] last uh easement meetings go with land
owners.
[4:15] Uh 12th Street and 16th Street, the
grading designs are are pretty much
[4:20] complete on those. We do have a couple
cultural sites that we're working around
[4:25] uh on those as well. So that'll be
another topic of discussion with shipo
[4:31] and I can get a sit down with them.
Uh we have been we'll start working on
[4:38] those easements as well as we progress
through that.
[4:42] Any questions so far
on the 2025 projects uh 20th Street,
[4:49] 86th and 9th and 98th Avenue. We uh did
get all the field surveys done this
[4:54] summer including the cultural and
wetland. We are working through the
[4:58] grading designs on all those projects
and made some good progress so far. Um
[5:02] we're going to begin evaluating our
disturbances and impacts to
[5:06] environmental and cultural sites.
Any question on any of the design
[5:11] projects
[5:14] the construction golf course road
project uh that work has all been
[5:19] completed. We did do a final inspection
back in on October 24th. Uh the fencing
[5:25] work has begun on the project. They are
working on the north side of the road
[5:29] early this week. Um with the weather,
they've they've held off now the last
[5:34] couple days. Uh they intend to finish
this year, but that'll all depend on the
[5:39] weather if they can get the fencing
done. Um and they're working through
[5:43] that with the land owners. So, no
surprises there.
[5:48] Uh the final estimate is out in the
contractor's hands still currently. So,
[5:52] uh, they're waiting on, um, uh, some
review from their subcontractors on
[5:58] their work. So, they did not get that
back to us in time to get on this
[6:01] meeting, but he assured me that he would
have it, uh, approved prior to the next
[6:05] meeting so we can get that final payment
made and close out that project. So,
[6:12] uh, there's about $150,000 remaining,
which is mostly just retainage. So,
[6:18] any questions on that?
[6:23] Thank you. Thank you very much.
[6:36] Morning.
I also have some brief updates for
[6:40] everyone.
[6:44] Can begin with Second Street Northwest
and 84th Avenue Northwest. So we
[6:49] conducted a final inspection on 11124.
We had members of Greytech Barland West
[6:55] and Dun County road department and road
portfolio holder of the commission
[7:00] project was generally accepted. We did
come up with some punch list items that
[7:04] were relatively minor. Had some rock
picking and some additional seating etc.
[7:09] Um, with that said, we've compiled a
semifinal pay request number 10 and
[7:14] recommend payment in the amount of
$588,43368.
[7:20] We are still holding 2% retainage until
completion of the punch list items.
[7:28] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I move that we pay uh
the estimate number 10 on the second
[7:35] 84th amount of 588,433.68
[7:39] to Greytech.
Is there a second?
[7:42] Second. Motion made by Commissioner
Pelton, second by Commissioner Marsh to
[7:46] approve pay request number 10 in the
amount of 588,433
[7:53] and68
to Grey Tech Construction on Second
[7:56] Street Northwest and 84th Avenue
Northwest. Any discussion?
[8:01] Any discussion? Hearing none, roll call
vote.
[8:03] Commissioner Marsh,
yes.
[8:05] Commissioner Dall,
yes.
[8:06] Commissioner Pilton, yes. Commissioner
Boer,
[8:08] yes.
And Mr. Chairman, you do have those in
[8:13] your what I
on. So the 2024 projects
[8:19] 117th Avenue Southwest is complete and
off the list. 14th Street Southwest, we
[8:24] had a pre-construction meeting on that
same day, 11124 with Schwarz. Um there
[8:30] was a tragedy out there. The foreman of
their box sculver crew passed on a
[8:35] different job that week. So it's kind of
left them strategizing and reorganizing
[8:39] for the installation of this box. If you
guys recall, they wanted to get that box
[8:43] covered in here. I'm not sure what this
weather's going to do, but that is still
[8:46] the plan and we still have proceeded
accordingly. Uh we've st temporary
[8:50] fencing out there and working with land
owners and the fencer. It's brown
[8:54] fencing and we're proceeding as they're
still going to attempt to install the
[8:57] box this year, but uh we haven't heard
differently, but again that that passing
[9:01] of their box cover for this kind of let
them scramble to figure out how they're
[9:05] going to get it done.
Um, next item on 119th Avenue Southwest.
[9:11] Uh, we collected right away a while ago.
That's all been filed. U, we've been
[9:16] waiting for responses on utilities out
there. Right now, we're down to McKenzie
[9:20] Electric Consolidated and and Marathon.
Vince was here. McKenzie last commission
[9:26] meeting getting permits. I asked him
again about that and thought we were
[9:30] going to get something. I still have not
gotten anything. consolidated said that
[9:35] um they were supposed to they're really
busy right now and as soon as snow snow
[9:39] flies or they get freeze up they can
address it thinking maybe that'll be
[9:43] today um or at least get the process
started but they just haven't been very
[9:48] responsive any of these three remaining
we're pushing to hear back from them
[9:53] we've got plans ready to go but it
doesn't really pay to to bid this thing
[9:56] until they actually give us their input
in case any redesign is required but uh
[10:01] once we get that we want advertising
this thing. So, any questions on 119th?
[10:08] Okay. Last but not certainly least, 99th
Avenue Southwest. So, we're about 90%
[10:14] complete on those plans and we've been
struggling with cultural items out
[10:17] there. Um, so the DOT also has a major
project on Highway 200 and struggled
[10:23] with the same items, culturally
sensitive items and mainly tribal
[10:27] culturally sensitive items, but they had
to come up with and they were on hold.
[10:31] We just talked with some here the other
week. Um, basically any of those
[10:36] culturally sensitive areas, they were
allowed to just put fill dirt on top of
[10:39] it and not do any excavation. That may
be a way to proceed with that in order
[10:44] to get clearance or to get cultural to
sign off on that. I've got some
[10:48] preliminary plans if anybody's
interested. And I kind of started
[10:50] discussions with the road department
yesterday about it. The only downside is
[10:55] it require requires borrow because we
have balanced design that they're not
[11:00] signing off on or having given us go
ahead. So that would that would mean
[11:03] having a borrow source and then putting
borrowed dirt on top of any of the
[11:06] culturally sold sensitive areas and
that's what the DOT has done. But we'll
[11:10] have more discussions with the road
department and see if that's the way you
[11:13] want to see
questions.
[11:18] Okay, moving along. Uh for Manning,
we're still navigating through the
[11:22] easement process with Southwest.
I think we're going to get somewhere on
[11:26] that. Um
that means Terry has to bring donuts
[11:31] next meeting.
Good.
[11:34] So, uh we've got we're trying to get
schedule some more meetings with
[11:37] Southwest representatives. There's been
some holdups on their end, but uh once
[11:42] we navigate through that, I think it
should should go pretty quick. Um,
[11:47] moving on to our 2025 projects, uh, both
Seventh Street project and Third Street
[11:52] projects. Same update on all those.
Everything is moving forward and
[11:56] progressing with with no major hiccups
yet to this point. Trying to get to a
[11:59] point where we can start collecting
right away out there. So,
[12:02] any questions on anything?
All right. Thank you all. Thank you.
[12:20] Mr. Chairman, commissioners, good
morning.
[12:22] Good morning.
Like to start off with our construction
[12:26] project.
Uh final walkthrough took place on
[12:30] Thursday, November 14th.
We are awaiting confirmation from the
[12:34] contractor on erosion control items and
we'll have the final estimate prepared
[12:38] for the December 4th commission meeting.
They actually got back to me this
[12:41] morning and said that everything was
good. So, we'll be good to go in two
[12:45] weeks.
Any questions on that one?
[12:50] It looks good.
Thanks. I think so. Contractor was
[12:55] great.
[12:59] 109th. Uh, little movement. Easing
documents are currently in review by the
[13:04] two major businesses on the route. We
did receive an access agreement template
[13:08] from one of those businesses which is in
review.
[13:12] Once they comply, we'll revisit the
residents
[13:16] uh pushing our targeted bid date of
December 18th, two months to February
[13:21] 19th, 2025 in hopes that we can continue
good communication.
[13:29] On 27th,
we're told that the deed of the one
[13:34] remaining property is now split and
we're just days away from being able to
[13:37] confirm that and they get it all
recorded. Both parties are in favor of
[13:42] the project.
Core approval should also be only days
[13:46] away. However, if it's not received
within the next week, we'll be forced to
[13:50] push our bid date from December 18th
into the new year.
[13:55] Any questions on those two?
[13:59] Okay, on to 82nd South. Finishing
touches are taking place on plan
[14:03] production. Temp easement descriptions
are being finalized with some minor
[14:07] revisions. We had to adjust some
approaches, so we have to adjust our
[14:11] temp easement. We have submitted the
core, been working with them on review.
[14:16] Bid opening is still currently targeted
for February 5th.
[14:22] And north segment
corridor design continues for this
[14:26] project. designers are sizing pipe,
placing approaches and working on
[14:30] wetland mitigation.
We have targeted a core application
[14:35] submitt date of November 27th with a bid
date of March 19th.
[14:42] Any questions on any second or anything
else?
[14:46] Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks, Jim.
[14:52] Morning
[15:00] commissioners.
Good morning.
[15:03] Got a couple uh final
estimates to present.
[15:09] Um starting with Seventh Street uh being
built by Martin Construction. We have uh
[15:16] prepared pay estimate number 17.
It's the final pay estimate.
[15:22] Um the amount is $21,768
[15:26] which we would recommend uh payment to
Martin Construction for that project.
[15:32] Mr. Chairman, I move that we uh pay pay
estimate number 77
[15:40] to Martin Construction in the amount of
21,768.
[15:45] There a second. Second
motion made by Commissioner Daldo,
[15:48] second by Commissioner Marsh to approve
pay estimate number 17 and amount of
[15:53] 21,768
to Martin Construction on 7th Street
[15:58] Southwest. Any discussion? Discussion
hearing.
[16:02] Commissioner Marsh,
yes.
[16:04] Commissioner Doz,
yes.
[16:05] Commissioner Pelton, Commissioner
[16:07] yes. Motion carried.
Uh, next payment we have is for 110th
[16:13] Avenue. It is also the final payment.
This one is number seven. Uh the amount
[16:19] is $25,6468
[16:23] which would be payable to Jensen
Brothers Construction.
[16:30] Mr. Chairman, I move that we pay pay
estimate number seven on 110th Avenue in
[16:35] the amount of $25,6468
[16:40] to Jensen Brothers Construction. Is
there a second?
[16:44] Second.
Motion made by Commissioner Pelton,
[16:46] second by Commissioner Dozel to approve
uh pay estimate number seven in the
[16:51] amount of $25,6468
[16:55] to Jensen Brothers Construction on 110th
Avenue. Is there any discussion? Any
[17:01] discussion hearing? None. Roll call
vote.
[17:03] Commissioner Marsh? Yes. Commissioner
Doz?
[17:05] Yes. Commissioner Pelton? Yes.
Commissioner
[17:07] Yes. Motion carried.
So, the other project that's uh under
[17:12] active construction, the construction's
complete, but we'll still have to uh
[17:17] have one more pass for 114th Avenue.
That'll be presented at at next meeting.
[17:22] We're still resolving some quantities,
but the construction's done and it's
[17:26] been approved. We just need to final the
quantities, but that'll be done at the
[17:30] next meeting. Um, same with the seal
coat. The project's done. We're just
[17:34] working with the DOT on their final
documents. As far as design projects,
[17:38] I'll kind of lump them together. We're
getting easements and core permits. Um
[17:43] this week, I think we got um so far this
week, I think we got seven parcels
[17:48] signed up on different projects and
three or four more parcels pending. So,
[17:53] I think we're making pretty good
progress on easements. There's always
[17:57] going to be um some that are a little
more difficult than others, but so far
[18:01] it's it's going fairly well um on the
different projects. So, um I think at
[18:07] the next meeting I'll try to assign some
target dates for um bid opening times or
[18:14] dates, but right now we're just a little
uncertain on some of these core permits,
[18:19] but I think by next meeting we'll sign
some target dates for bid opening dates.
[18:25] Any questions on anything?
Thank you very much.
[18:30] Okay, thanks
[18:34] Jerry. Do we have utility permits?
No, there's no utility permits this
[18:38] time.
[18:43] And that's it with the road. No.
Okay. Thank you. Sally, do you want to
[18:47] kind of go through the list here of an
election update first?
[18:50] Sure. I just wanted to give you an
update on election. We did have our
[18:53] canvas board on Monday. Um they did um
confirm the election and certify. So
[18:59] those um official election results are
on our website and they will be posted
[19:04] in next Wednesday's paper. Got that
taken care of. Um all the um
[19:10] postelection audits have been done and
we are balanced. So I just want to give
[19:14] everybody an update on that.
Um the first commission meeting in
[19:20] January
and I just wanted to let you guys know
[19:22] that um the 1 of January is Wednesday.
So, I just wanted you guys to be
[19:27] thinking about um the the first meeting
since we're closed that day. Um, of
[19:32] course, we don't have to make any
decisions today, but it'll have to be
[19:35] either after um Thursday or Friday or
it'll have to be the following Monday
[19:40] that we do that first commission meeting
of the year. So, just keep that in mind.
[19:46] We might as well decide now. Um, you
think Thursday, the date next day?
[19:51] It's fine with me. Second
a motion to do that.
[19:56] Probably.
I move that we switch the first meeting
[20:01] in January to January 2nd 9:00 a.m.
There. Second.
[20:05] Second.
Motion made by Commissioner Pelton,
[20:08] second by Commissioner Dozel to uh move
the January 1st meeting to January 2nd
[20:14] at 9:00 a.m. Any discussion? Any
discussion? Hearing hearing? None. All
[20:20] in favor say I.
I. All opposed. Motion carried.
[20:27] We want to the extension office
statements.
[20:36] Okay. So, in the past years, we have
given the two extension agents a stipend
[20:42] to bring their um
salaries up to what they would be if
[20:48] they were a Dun County employee. This is
a practice done by most counties um with
[20:54] extension agents. So, um I I we don't
have any numbers yet. Um Jim Gray just
[21:00] contacted me and asked me if we um would
like to continue that throughout 2025
[21:09] and then we will have some numbers to to
approve
[21:14] maybe. So, we don't have numbers. It's
like a consensus that or do you want a
[21:18] motion?
So Jim is asking that if we're going to
[21:23] continue,
right, if we're going to continue to
[21:25] give um Chris and Kirsten stipens,
but we don't know the numbers.
[21:30] We do not know the numbers. He wanted to
know get the consensus first if you guys
[21:34] wanted to do it and then he will come up
with the final numbers.
[21:37] Yeah, I I think so. I mean, I agree.
[21:43] And then we would we would just enter
into theou and approve that.
[21:47] Yes. Correct. What are everybody else's
thoughts?
[21:51] I'm fine.
Yeah, we're going to need to continue.
[21:54] Okay, I agree.
[22:00] Um Will, is it too early or are you
ready?
[22:04] Okay.
[22:22] Thank you.
[22:37] Good morning.
Good morning.
[22:39] Morning.
All right, Mr. Chairman and Commission.
[22:42] Um, I apologize in advance if this
kind of doesn't make sense or if it
[22:50] needs clarification. I tried my best to
kind of explain what I'm I'm here
[22:55] proposing and why I'm proposing it. Um,
we've talked throughout the year about a
[23:01] possible restructure in my building and
grounds department. Um this is kind of a
[23:08] generalized uh direction and basically
how I'll start this is by saying the
[23:16] building of grounds over the past
8 to 10 years has seen exponential
[23:22] growth and demand in what its scope of
work has been. So obviously it was a
[23:29] department of one and now it's a
department of four and we are looking to
[23:34] have a clear structure moving forward.
Um and
[23:40] it's basically growing pains of a
growing department and this is my uh
[23:47] proposal to move forward with a clear
hierarchy of how this uh department
[23:53] could be structured based on your
approval. So, uh, backing up just a bit,
[23:59] uh, one of the roles that and
responsibilities that has kind of come
[24:04] to the forefront, um, that that that
isn't traditionally something that we
[24:09] would do in the building and grounds is
handling park board park business. Um
[24:16] it's it's something that the park board
and I as as um a park board member have
[24:24] discussed and we came up with the
conclusion that it wouldn't it would be
[24:28] a good move if I resigned from the park
board and became more of a um director
[24:35] of parks. That's the recommendation of
the park board to move forward. Um, I
[24:40] would still be the building and ground
supervisor, but we're looking to house
[24:46] the administrative work, the work that
is done with the different agencies that
[24:51] handle um park board business,
the US Army Corps of Engineers, the US
[24:57] Fish and Wildlife, a liaison, and
somebody to handle meeting minutes, uh,
[25:03] agenda, that kind of thing, handle the
administrative work that was being
[25:08] handled. by a separate department prior
to now and that's kind of not in their
[25:14] scope of work anymore. So there is a
need for that. That's the first thing.
[25:17] Um the second thing is um there's always
been a need where we're currently
[25:26] staffed completely busy. Our current
um group of people that are working in
[25:33] my department are are are busy. And if
anybody is gone in that current
[25:38] structure, it makes it very difficult
and it's a quite a strain. Um, so
[25:43] basically to come back to the proposal
and what I handed out, the current
[25:48] structure is obviously building and
grounds and then I dictate and oversee
[25:53] the department as a whole. Okay, so
there's two janitorial workers and a
[25:57] maintenance assistant currently that are
full-time. Um, I kind of go through some
[26:03] of the important points on this. um you
know basically there's issues if you
[26:08] look at this hierarchy in the current
structure with if I'm gone or if um one
[26:14] of the other people are gone it really
does impact what we're able to
[26:18] accomplish as a department. So in the
proposed hierarchy
[26:23] what I'm what I'm proposing and one of
the requests that was made is that I
[26:27] come up with a kind of generalized what
would my department look like if we were
[26:31] to restructure it. So currently um my
plan for a a hierarchy is to have two
[26:38] separate groups janitorial and
maintenance and have a lead in each of
[26:44] those almost a supervisory role where
they take over certain aspects of the
[26:51] building grounds department with
maintenance and janitorial and I still
[26:55] supervise but also act as park director
to fill in for some of those um needs
[27:01] from the park department. My ultimate
goal is to continue to grow the park
[27:05] department and I think if that is going
to be part of the the goals moving
[27:11] forward, there needs to be a clear
person in charge of that area. So that's
[27:18] those are some of the key things that I
wanted to point out. Um I do have some
[27:22] budget impacts for the new proposal. Um
it will increase department payroll. Um,
[27:29] that was, you know, and and I do want to
back up too. This is something that I've
[27:33] had in the works for a while, but we've
all kind of had to wait and see what the
[27:38] election results were going to be before
I came to you and proposed something
[27:41] that would may may require, you know,
um, changing of the budget and I didn't
[27:47] want to do that with the election and
possible changing of things in general.
[27:53] Um, so um, increased department payroll.
um there would be an increase in hourly
[28:01] uh wage based on the janitorial lead and
maintenance lead moving up into a higher
[28:06] pay scale. I met with Desessie um and if
it means anything to you A13 and B21
[28:12] would be where those new positions would
land on the uh pay scale. Okay, so I
[28:20] have done that much. Um, I kind of know
where that that falls, but I haven't
[28:24] haven't put any actual hard numbers
because I wanted to discuss this with
[28:29] you, see if this was something that the
commission would be in favor of. Um,
[28:34] also, uh, hiring an additional full-time
maintenance tech to assist the
[28:39] maintenance lead would be my
recommendation. Um and then uh giving uh
[28:45] the maintenance lead authority to take
home a county vehicle similar to what I
[28:49] have authority to do. Um just in the off
chance that if they're going to be the
[28:55] maintenance tech lead that they would
have the ability to in the case of an
[28:59] emergency or whatever go from home to uh
wherever needs uh any sort of addressing
[29:06] on the maintenance side of things. Um so
goals is to really provide continued
[29:11] excellence uh in my department to the
county uh improve as a team uh grow the
[29:17] parks department um have clear defined
goals and responsibilities in my
[29:21] department um allow more time for
continued education and to retain our
[29:27] current employees.
Um,
[29:30] then I go kind of go through and it it's
it's clear. I don't need to go through
[29:34] every point. Um, unless there are
questions. Um, but we've got 11
[29:38] properties that we take care of. Um, I
have them all listed out there. Um, some
[29:43] are more than others. Obviously, the
courthouse is is obviously more of a
[29:48] higher responsibility than say like the
the new addatic trailer that we end up
[29:53] taking care of from time to time. So, it
it's I guess it's all relative, but um I
[29:58] kind of go through some generalized
responsibilities for each of the new
[30:04] areas and that really encompasses what
I'm proposing. Um I don't know how to go
[30:12] about a motion if you guys are wanting
to move forward with a decision like
[30:18] this, but I'm open to questions and I
hope it all makes clear sense. Any
[30:24] questions?
[30:29] How many more people are you looking at
adding right now?
[30:32] Just just one. Just one. Uh one
full-time um maintenance assistant. And
[30:38] we had kind of talked about that in my
budget. I actually proposed this for a
[30:43] possible full-time or part-time person.
Um, so it has been approved in my
[30:48] budget, but
um, I wanted to give you a clear
[30:54] um, outline of what my goals are and
what my thoughts are with the department
[30:59] without getting into real real
specifics. I wanted to to kind of show
[31:05] you what my thoughts were as best I
could on paper. And if they if they
[31:08] don't make sense, I apologize. So
So the janitorial lead and maintenance
[31:13] lead that would be going to a different
p uh on the pay scale.
[31:18] Yes. They would basically what I'm
looking to do is
[31:21] on your on your sheet is that your
janitorial worker or the department
[31:28] which sheet are you looking at?
Nothing.
[31:33] And like I said, I'm sorry.
So So the bottom two people on the list
[31:39] would go higher in the pay scale.
No. No.
[31:42] Second.
No. the the the the leads would would
[31:46] end up becoming more of a supervisory
role.
[31:50] And and what I'm really looking to do is
give the maintenance and the janitorial
[31:55] a
a point of contact besides myself,
[32:01] right? Um if there's something wrong
with the buildings, will I still be
[32:04] involved? Absolutely. But I'm looking to
have more than one person as a point of
[32:09] contact so that if in the case that I or
who whoever is gone, it it provides more
[32:18] than one person to be able to handle the
work that needs to be done. It also
[32:22] really improves our secession plan um by
spreading the supervisory
[32:29] um role a little bit besides just
myself.
[32:34] I think it it it definitely gives more
people some power to make decisions in
[32:38] the case of people being absent.
[32:43] Any other questions?
Mr. Chairman, well, thanks for putting
[32:48] all this together.
Very good job.
[32:51] um part of the the lead maintenance
tech. Are we talking
[32:56] besides the title tech? We're talking
tech as far as it helping with that sort
[33:03] of thing.
Well, I mean tech was just the work I
[33:06] know.
Yeah. It's just a it's just a it's a
[33:08] working title to try and explain the
best we could because it you can only
[33:13] have so much like supervisor, director,
lead, you know what I mean? So that
[33:17] that's a way of basically giving them a
title of ownership. But go ahead.
[33:21] But my question is would that person be
able to assist us with the some of the
[33:28] IT things that we we definitely need
some help in this building? Well, across
[33:35] the buildings,
apartments
[33:37] and that's something that has evolved. I
mean in six months ago I will tell you
[33:42] honestly no, that was never part of the
deal. But now that we've got a person
[33:46] that's got some experience in that,
I definitely see that being
[33:51] housed under our umbrella of department
is being able to assist. And it's just
[33:57] it's slowly kind of taken shape. And the
that's the other justification for me
[34:05] looking to hire an assistant in
maintenance is because if the lead is
[34:12] handling IT stuff and and different um
wearing many different hats, that's the
[34:17] that's the the crux of this department
is there's many different hats that
[34:21] somebody has to wear and you have to
find very good individuals and this is
[34:25] also a way for me to try and retain
those individuals that are valuable to
[34:30] the county. So yes, to answer your
question, uh, Commissioner Dozal is is
[34:35] it yes, I see that being part of the
scope of responsibility.
[34:52] Mr. Chairman, I
I I kind of like the proposal he's put
[34:57] forth. I don't know if
the rest of you want to, you know,
[35:03] consider it further um or um have Will
and Desessie um put together some of the
[35:12] the costs or impacts and bring it back
to us at the next meeting.
[35:17] Yeah, I I'm not against it, but I'd like
to know more about it and kind of know
[35:22] where the numbers are going to be at
that.
[35:26] Yeah, I I I know that
there is without getting into specifics,
[35:34] there will be an increase in hourly
based on the the what does she call it
[35:39] the DVM or DBM model.
So, there are some of those things and I
[35:45] and she gave me those numbers and if we
need to flesh out exact numbers, I'm I'm
[35:50] okay with that. Um, I will say that I I
I know we're in the midst of a new year.
[35:56] I know we're in the midst of a different
commission taken. I the reason I'm here,
[36:01] I would have been here the day after the
election, but I felt like that was too
[36:04] soon. Um, so I gave it a couple, you
know, two weeks, but I'm really looking
[36:10] for direction here. I know I will
provide direction to my department, but
[36:14] I would like to have my proposal either
approved or or not simply from the
[36:20] standpoint of that my department needs
to have a goal or outlook moving
[36:25] forward. So, I don't want to push
anybody, but I do want you to understand
[36:29] that I'm really looking to run with this
January 1st and and start with this in
[36:37] mind. I'm not I'm I'm not sure if hiring
a full-time employee right away. I don't
[36:45] see myself doing that, but at least
having a framework to where when I talk
[36:49] to my employees and say this is where
we're headed that that it's approved and
[36:54] that that because I I've hinted at this
for six months and I I really would like
[36:59] to have a clear answer if if if
possible.
[37:04] Yeah. Like I said, I'm not against you.
just got to absorb it and and try to you
[37:08] got to know the numbers too. So like
just the the the
[37:13] texts or the the two leads are going to
go up in wages. Is yours going to change
[37:18] that? I didn't even Desessie was um she
was right before she was leaving. She
[37:24] did this kind of as a favor to run
through the DMV to kind of get an idea
[37:28] because I didn't know where we were
going to fall. Haven't even looked at
[37:32] where I'm at. haven't even and in fact
I'm I'm okay if I stay where I'm at. I
[37:38] just simply want
it's part of the equation. We got to
[37:41] know
true 100%.
[37:42] You know what I mean? That's kind of
what the numbers game like.
[37:46] What does that do to your department?
Does everybody I mean like how did your
[37:50] kind of changing structure of it?
Exactly. And that's
[37:53] not saying it's bad but you got to know
the details small details.
[37:58] Agreed. And that that's really why I'm
here too is to be transparent about what
[38:04] my goals are and to get a clear
framework laid out. So
[38:09] what is everybody else's thoughts
Mr. Chairman? So we did put into your
[38:15] budget was approved for an additional
person already. Right.
[38:19] Correct. Right. So if if that is
something, you know, depending on how
[38:23] how things go, like you mentioned, it
may not be something we do right away,
[38:29] right?
And see how things go. The money is
[38:32] there for these adjustments um already.
and whether we decide to go with an
[38:39] additional person, you know, say in four
or five months when whatever
[38:44] um by by doing this um changing the the
structure to the lead text and their um
[38:53] DBM changing
that money is already in his budget.
[38:59] So, um I guess you know I'm fine with
waiting till the next meeting and and I
[39:05] guess one other thing I wanted to say
when you talk about the election you're
[39:08] talking about measure four
measure four
[39:10] that was aund if measure four wouldn't
have been on the table and there
[39:13] wouldn't have been
real risk at the at the county level
[39:18] being changed 100% and then me adding
another wrench and I would never have
[39:24] waited this long. I would have put this
forth way before that. But yeah,
[39:30] you know, and the way I I I see it is
when we really ramp up and there's a
[39:37] demand on time for the maintenance
department is when the grass starts
[39:43] really, really growing. So June, July,
those guys have always been on a mower.
[39:49] Well, with two mowers, that definitely
changes their work. And so I probably
[39:54] wouldn't move forward with that second
maintenance person until,
[40:01] you know, summer, spring, and maybe that
person is a seasonal until I find the
[40:06] right person because if I open it and
there's not the right fit, I don't want
[40:11] to hire someone until I find that
person. So it could be a temporary
[40:15] position or a seasonal position for
the whole next year. So, I just want to
[40:22] make sure that that's clear as well.
Yeah. And again, I'm not against that
[40:26] because that was in your budget, but now
you're taking everybody else and kind of
[40:29] going to different levels, right? So,
how does that look, right?
[40:32] All I'm saying, I mean,
y
[40:35] it's not a bad thing. You had somebody
else hired, but now you just want to
[40:38] take everybody else.
Yeah.
[40:40] And put structure to it.
Yep. a hierarchy of of how the
[40:44] department operates and then make that
widely known so that if
[40:49] another department needs assistance and
I don't pick up my phone or whatever,
[40:54] they've got contact information and they
everybody should be able to communicate
[41:00] with one another. So,
you probably have enough money in your
[41:04] budget right now.
Yes.
[41:05] Right. Yeah,
I do. I do.
[41:07] I think
I think you can go ahead and run your
[41:10] Okay. Okay.
I I agree. Um it's in the it's in the
[41:14] budget now. It it would come down to
whether we feel it's justified to add
[41:19] another person either seasonal or
full-time um down the road.
[41:23] Yeah.
Um I the other thing I like about this
[41:27] is the succession part of it. That's
something in our strategic plan and
[41:32] we've all agreed that's important and we
should have that and
[41:36] to have the right person to be able to
step in in case
[41:40] um you decide to go to work at
McDonald's or something.
[41:44] I know I know it has been a risk.
Yeah. I think too if if uh that gives
[41:51] you you have a fairly new person on so
that gives you time to adjust where that
[41:56] person best fits your situation. So you
know 3 months from now when
[42:03] you need a seasonal person or whatever
that gives you some time to adjust all
[42:07] that.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. It does. And and the
[42:11] other thing too is it provides a
framework that maybe in the near future
[42:16] there's a need for an you know who knows
what the additional impact may or may
[42:21] not be at least there's a hierarchy of
where those that person may fit in this
[42:26] current setup instead of just we need
another person well in what way and what
[42:31] in what avenue do they fit. This helps
kind of delineate that very very a lot
[42:37] more clear.
[42:40] Mr. Yeah. Um I think do we need a motion
right now or just
[42:45] I think you can just go ahead and run
ahead. He's got the money there. Yeah.
[42:48] Okay. And as far as like the park um the
park board um I know that they'll
[42:54] probably be we felt like if I'm going to
be acting as answering to the park board
[43:00] and having their marching orders so to
speak um even though I'm I was a park
[43:06] board member me stepping down and and
filling that with another person
[43:11] starting in January that's so as long as
we're covered by that like it doesn't
[43:16] require a motion and then I would wear
that different um hat so to speak with
[43:22] the park director. Um and that includes
handling all the basically it's it's
[43:28] running the campground, handling all the
calls, run running web reserve, all the
[43:32] the other things that are involved in
that that were being handled by someone
[43:37] else that you know now falls on us. So,
as long as everybody's aware of that and
[43:43] that that does impact me moving forward,
it is something that my department has
[43:50] kind of enveloped. So, I just want to
make sure that that's clear and if we're
[43:54] good, I'll do my thing and we'll just
continue to um do it. So,
[44:00] okay. Thank you.
Thanks, Will. Yep. Sarah, are you
[44:03] online?
[44:07] I'm pulling into the parking lot.
Oh, okay. We'll do vouchers until you
[44:12] get here.
[45:48] Do you know what the repairs to the
wheat building were for?
[45:55] 500 roughly
under buildings.
[46:06] Okay. Okay.
[46:15] Okay. Thank you.
[46:20] Schmidt. Yeah.
[47:10] Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the
vouchers. Is
[47:14] there a second?
Second.
[47:16] Motion made by Commissioner Do, second
by Commissioner Marsh to approve the
[47:20] vouchers. Is there any discussion?
Is there any discussion? Hearing none,
[47:25] roll call vote. Commissioner Marsh,
yes.
[47:27] Commissioner Dozel,
yes.
[47:28] Commissioner Pelton,
yes.
[47:29] Commissioner
yes. Motion carried.
[47:32] Sarah.
[47:41] Good morning, commission. How are you
today?
[47:44] Good.
Um, I just uh would like to come before
[47:49] you about rescending the total burn ban
requests that we had put in place first
[47:56] part of October when the wildfires
went out and then revert back to the
[48:02] restrictions
the restrictions as we had established
[48:05] in April. So
and that is I have discussed it with the
[48:11] fire chiefs.
[48:16] questions.
Mr. Chairman, I'd move that we reser
[48:21] resend our current burn ban and revert
back to the burn ban we had before we
[48:27] put that in place.
Is there a second?
[48:29] Second.
Motion made by Commissioner Pelden,
[48:32] second by Commissioner Marsh to resend
the total burn ban, go back to the
[48:36] restrictions we put on in April.
Is there any discussion?
[48:41] Any discussion? Hearing none. All in
favor say I.
[48:44] I.
All opposed. Motion carried. Thank you.
[48:47] I will get it printed out for you to
sign that, Cody, and then um I'll update
[48:51] all the state websites today.
Thank you.
[48:55] Thanks.
Okay. Anything else?
[49:00] Motion to adjurnn.
Motion to adjurnn.
[49:04] Second.
Second.
[49:05] Motion made by Commissioner Mars.
Seconded by Commissioner Dzall to
[49:08] adjurnn. Any discussion? Any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
[49:13] I.
I.
[49:14] All opposed. Motion carried.
It's a record.
[49:21] Two.
[49:26] Thank you.