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to Do we have anyone here that would like to give a public comment?

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Or what's your comments or yeah, this is, yeah this is your time to do that and if

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we can, so I know they're not great if we can turn on the microphones so just so

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not and you don't all have to. I would like chairs for this and then door if you'll

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just turn yours on we just wanna try these um these are new because we could not

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hear I was never.

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um, so all of these are now connected. Um, they are just microphones. We still have

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our recording system which is up closer to you, um, but these are more for when we

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have meetings and we have people in the back that could not hear and so we're just

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trying these out. They're brand new and we just got them at the end of last week,

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so I appreciate you being the guinea pigs. So that we can try, um, and if you want

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to, it does pick up a lot of noise we're gonna get some pads and stuff so if you're

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flipping papers or something you want to turn it off while you're doing that, great,

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um, but if you can just remember to turn it on later, don't wait to. So if you wanna

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turn them off right now, you're fine and it's just hit the button if it's red, it's

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on and then it's not lit up then I think it's fine. I'll turn it on. Yes, please.

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Thank you. OK, sorry. So question on assignments. Yes, so I'll record it down here.

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We have a big, uh, video frame, and it's now been here for about 4-5 months. It's

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on still an option. Yes, so it's just always there and I just It's not what's bugging

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me when we finished the second option and now another one set schedule and it's like

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what's the what's the point on having so I'll have to look at it. They did pull a

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sign from it. We, we actually did take it down, um, previously because she did not

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have a sign from it and so we made them come in and get the sign from it and let

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them know that yearly that would be. The requirement for her being able to do that

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and then it had to be in kind of circle case. Area it couldn't be in our right away

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and so that's why it's more in the grammar um but I will double check on the time

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frames for you. It was just, it's just constantly there. I'm like we have other businesses

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that are doing things that we want and I'm like so. They, they need to come get a

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sign permit, um, and then again because Main Street's different if it's a business

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on Main Street, yes, you can put up a sign. Still recommend you getting the sign

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permit and everything is. Yes, OK, yes, yes, so we have all those sizes and,

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and all of that, um, and depending on the type of sign that influences what they're

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required to do. So the bigger the sign gets, then it does have to come to you guys,

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not as the commission, but as the design review technique. And then people that just

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put in frames down the sides of the roads advertising their business, so we are trying

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to get those, um, there's some of them that, yes, yeah, and we just, I have been

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out a lot and so Will is trying to grab those as he can. I did notice a big uptick,

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um, and so we try when we go out or goes out inspections or I'm out and about we

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try to go grab those, especially our ones that do not have signs um we have grabbed

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some of the royalty ones that will not have those signs on them because it's not

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for that no, yes, that's fine it's just you're starting to see a few companies and

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all of a sudden they just turn over the other side of the road going up. The account

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is like I know I'm, I'm, I'm now. Absolutely. But yes, the ones in town we're trying

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to make sure we get, um, well, every once in a while if there's kind of a good gap

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in the outcome, he tries to swing by some of the really heavily signed, I guess,

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locations that we know. So if you do see some, please feel free to reach out to Bill

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or I so that we know like, hey, there's one. Down here in River Run where maybe we

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don't go or you know there's some on ground or there's some over on Utah or there's

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some in subdivisions because we don't go into all of the areas we usually travel

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the main roadways and that's usually where they are but I have noticed there are

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some in in the places they have a permit they have a time frame.

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They typically per state statute you have up until the election and then I believe

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I think it's like a few days after and they just changed that. So they just changed

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the permitting, so I have to talk with Jessica again, um, because that was the change

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they just made this year was whether there was permitting or not. And so that was

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when we were still going over, but they're still not allowed to put them on Main

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Street in our rider. They still have to be backed off by the um and out of the right.

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Yes. But we will look into it. Yes, I, I have noticed it's, yes.

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Do we have babies on any of the larger projects going on in town? I know I kind of

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get approached by it pretty often. Right, which ones like, um, rices and the mustards

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and I'm not sure if we have all the online and how those are going, um, also, do

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we have any CUP deadlines coming up or check-ins that we need to do?

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I don't really see you in the next.

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And did you see those um those um bus groups have been communicating, um. And

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they did have to wait time for us to put the water in. I have communicated to him.

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I was in a meeting, but he came back, so I made sure that, um, someone I know that

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we need to see forward progress on installing those utility lines for that, um, and

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they included me on that, um. But now that we are installing that line, they know

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where it's going to go when they have all of that, that's not a question anymore

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if he's been able to see where the drainage goes. We have. And then they get storms

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that allow us to see, yes, um, and so typically what happens with the CUP is if there

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is no action, there's no updates. Some of them like him, you know, he had to get

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surveyed, he had to get some engineering, some things like that, and so it doesn't

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always seem like there's work being done, but there is. He's not at that point where

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there needs to be some physical work done. Um, he has roughly 6 months. If no physical

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work is being done by then and there's not communication, then we will actually decide

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the CMP. Um, and it can't be denied. I've, I've been very close on them to people

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that almost went back to denying with the UP, um, because the.

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Anything and I have to actually fill two counts. It's good just to know this is,

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you know, there's questions around, yes, so he is supposed to be working on finalizing

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more lines and all that. So I hope within the next month to have some more concrete

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plans and some more concrete things happening, um, and we'll update you. But if we

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don't start seeing that he was made aware. Of those stipulations, um, on my handling

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was he actually felt. I Mhm.

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And a backing engineer.

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He, he wants to add a little office building in the northwest corner. He wants to

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add more to the question, um, yeah. So we did go over that some who was informed

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that it will. We have to go back to the vein review, um, you know, we shared our

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Very much big concerns with that as far as how much is on the property, the parking

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spaces, utilities, um. He is going to do some drywall, so that's why I'm there and

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I told him, you know, that could affect where this building is going because that

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was where his drywall was going was in that same corner, um, and so between engineering

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and that you there could be some further competitions, um, but hopefully he had some

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updated plans with the building and things like that so it's moving forward just

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we'll see. Um, but they do have it as now like, like a restaurant style like you

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talked about. Kind of office slash workspaces and then go on.

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And still yes ma'am, and still the pop shop.

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Yes, yeah, so it could be coming back to. Huh, yeah, that's the first thing I was

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a pop. That could be interesting too. No, it's actually not allowed within, uh, most

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of the schools like. It's like 1000 ft or something and it it's really frozen with

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the score then that's, that's why we don't have those in home that's because of it's

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just no no it's pop pop yeah so that those are moving

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forward just slowly. OK, thank you. Yes, I appreciate it.

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That was, I was gonna ask you about that because it did the cartridge, did they,

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did it sell supposed to close Monday. That's so, and they're gonna come up real quick

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if you if you haven't gone. Do I still find them? We need to. No, we do. Yes, I agree.

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Yeah, it's hard to get in the water.

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That's only your time when I go.

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Uh, the staff have a reports for us as the commission of the.

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Uh, so Will did just get an application today, um, for a potential shock.

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It would be a variance type situation again. So depending on how that goes, next

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month we may have a variance. To look over, um, and then again it's some limitations

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on space and terrain and some things like that. So very similar to what we had before,

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um, so just so you're aware of that, I am going to be at a conference on Flagstaff

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starting tomorrow, but I don't have my phone. I don't have the laptop, so if you

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think of things or if you need anything, don't hesitate to reach out. Um, when you

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say shop like everyone's talking about what we just said. Yes, yeah, just like we

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did before with the world adjustment, um, it's kind of the same scenario, maybe a

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little worse than this guy's situation of trying to go behind them so. He's on the

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edge of the mountain. So there's no one shop shop or.

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24 by 30 detached garage up on Spruce in the in the curve of Spruce and we and we

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will get to that, but that will be like the only thing. For us right now, um, we

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will probably have a meeting that month just. It was because we need to have some

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more and more session. Some codes and updates and things um and then we will.

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So, um, December just because. We all know how that goes. So.

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Other than that, I think that's it. Do you have anything? OK.

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Has everyone had time to review the minutes?

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I put my papers. You're good. You're fine.

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And these are the minutes from September 8, 2026.

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I can make a motion that I.

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September 8th, September 8th, 2026. Can I send you back.

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Thank you. OK, moving on to Item number 8. New business.

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Discussion regarding Years in town I didn't know. These guts which

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So the A under 7 should actually be the new business. So I apologize. That was my

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understanding, um, so if you will read the discussion financial action to determine,

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sure, perfect, especially impossible action to determine by a minute or so to 10:30.

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2 data centers data processing disabilities and similar uses.

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And I will let you.

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And therefore constitute permanent. Yes.

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OK, so chair and commission, um, part of the reason this came up is we do have some

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concerns in the community about where these go, what is happening, things like this,

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um, in order to make sure that this commission acts in accordance with state law

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but also with town code, I did work with our attorney Brett Rigg to ensure that we

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did this correctly. After speaking with him, um, uh, we included Proposition 207.

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Um, which was provided to union defendants which states private property rights.

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Kind of to sum that up, basically what that means is it is illegal for a community,

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town, city, anything like that and after the fact and say no, this requires the

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CUP this requires the CUP if it aligns with other industrial uses. So,

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um, what was recommended is that for the 207 proposition, we approved

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data centers being a formidable use in I1 zoning only, um, and then we are going

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to work on the standards that they will have to follow.

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And that is part of the reason for the work session is to redefine and kind of get

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a better sense of what's needed because if it's a code they have to follow all of

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those things before we could even think about issuing it. Because correctly if I'm

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wrong from the government we really can't say that they're not allowed. It's not

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what I'm saying. So my understanding from Marjorie is per state, um, and pretty much

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nationally data centers are considered an industrial zone use. So as much

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as, as much as we may not like that or we want to have some control over that, we

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do have to follow in line with states, um, and do that. So by middle order I would

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recommend that we do approve them as a permitted use. In the industrial zoning as

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long as they are not detrimental to public health safety, um, and they meet those

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program standards.

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And I would, I would make the motion pretty much how we wrote that a, um, and so

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that way you resolve what comes across. This just lets us know that yes, this is

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gonna get, this is added into our industrialism and like I said, the whole mission

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is to push. Better solidifies what we need and what we so do we

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Approvement network on the phone or correct, yes, and then no, so we're gonna put

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this at the time so we motion and then we're, yes, and then, and then we'll go ahead

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with the work session too, yeah, we'll make a motion to go in the work session and

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then we will get into some of the labor, OK, and make a note so.

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To. They were I'm gonna work in town for 1852, 29.

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Right

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Um You can, I think you can, well, just read the whole thing, yeah, OK. What it is

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that are data processing facilities and similarities are similar to the uses permitted

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in the Iowa industrial zone and are not detrimental to the public health agents in

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America, but the law there and therefore constitute permitted uses in the Iowa industrial

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zone.

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I'm sick on that. I don't think I did.

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Any names.

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OK, now we can, yeah, I'd like to make a session. A second elevator and

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right. OK. One session, a discussion related to a missing childhood chapter 18.

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And actually it's more that sexual pain. I love that to you now that you can and

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we'll give you business. Yep.

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Discretion regarding potential development standards and talent coding amendments

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applicable to data centers, data processing. Similar uses water usage, energy, and

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electrical demands such as size and hydros, backup generators, screening water, fire

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and water safety requirements, infrastructure impacts, and other appropriate development

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standards. OK, so, um, in your packet I believe was included kind of

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just the basic front page of industrial zone with the, um,

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When we have that meeting.

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I don't know. I don't. So I'm the development stage in current code. It is

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very Not even late. It's, there is not a lot to ask to go off, um,

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which made it difficult in some ways, even with the other that was suggested, I didn't

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ask for any special, um, so it makes it very confusing for someone that's trying

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to come to know, hey, I have to meet all these requirements. But then it also makes

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it hard on your end, our end of being like, hey, no, you, this is in code, this is

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what it is, we have to have these things, um, so this is not just coming up just

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because of data centers. This will be a comprehensive list for any type of industrial

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building. That is coming in. Part of the reason for like the height with the Nichols

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when they had to come for the 32 ft building, I think it was for, you know, 32 inches,

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um, you know, I, I don't feel like in an industrial zone. We should have to approve

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those all the time. Um, I do feel like we need to have a standard set of here's a

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height that everyone's OK with for industrial, um, even with like smokestacks or,

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you know, towers. Hey, you can go to this minimum height without having to come first

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to your feet, um, but we see. We've experienced over kind of the last year I

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would really like to get it in code and work on developing standards that we are

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all OK with we feel like we'll benefit the town, but we'll also kind of give pause

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to some of these companies coming in to make them be cognizant of the fact that hey,

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I have to have A through Z done before I can even get a permit, um. I did want to

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share something that was just shared with me today. So there is a new CEO of Navapache

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Electric. He has taken the time to meet with our manager. Um, he is actually from

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back east, I believe, or one of those where he has dealt with data centers, big energy

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users.

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I told one of his requests and how we worked this into code I'm not quite sure yet

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um but he would like to be very much involved with the process when it comes to energy.

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And what they could even provide to these companies, um, because there's gonna be

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limits on what they can provide, which limits what can come into our area as well.

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Um, so that's just something to be aware of. So I know. Some of you probably do have

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some different things, so this is just our time that we can kind of work through

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things. To help her yet we wanna keep kind of coming up with a list refining things

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getting things ready so that it can go to council and we adopted.

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And so this is something more than uh we were talking about data centers for all

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of that with the attorney. This was kind of our way of Yes, we need to allow those

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high industrial use, but Here's XYZ that you have to meet that helps protect us

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as even residents, um, and ourselves and then things like that without breaking

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state law and things like that. So really, I have another question. Is there a vessel

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level for the industrial area that you have um I'm not sure I can think of why

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that they can be extremely bad so that's, I think that's what the stomach and Elizabeth

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has noise, um, the energy, but even.

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Um How much of the land they can actually move. For a building versus

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I mean, I mean we get those topics that are concerns and then we can build up topics

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make a list of topics, yeah, and so if you look at that age and those were just some

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of the areas that we looked at, um, so he did. Both of

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those Um, with kind of input that we gave so that we were seeing some of those areas,

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so it's the one other new business. So it's 88.

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And it's where it talks about, you know, water usage, energy and electrical demand

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setbacks, building sites, noise, backup generators, screaming, which would be, you

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know, fencing materials and having it blocked off, um, fighting fire and safety,

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um, requirements, infrastructure impacts. Which are huge. A lot of people don't think

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about those either is, you know, we're still working on trying to expand our infrastructure

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and so we need to have something set up. What is this gonna impact it?

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One of the things that I've been working on as well, it's just not quite ready yet.

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What we've been communicating with council is if these businesses are gonna come

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in. And they're allowed and they can meet all these requirements. These are

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Hundreds of thousands, billions of dollars' worth of companies that we need to have

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access to write a film. Not saying that we want that, but they're going to come in,

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they're going to.

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They need to put some skin in the game, so they need to help pay for some infrastructure

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updates. They need to help pay for upgrading the fire department, upgrading the fire

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department, updating how many the wind farms over there and the things that they're

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doing. So we're regionally we are all trying to work on something similar because.

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As much as we maybe don't agree with them, we may not be able to stop them. And so

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instead of them getting to come in and yeah, we're just gonna ruin your land and

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we're just gonna do this and we can just come in and it's like, oh no, hey, we, we

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need some of these things. We need training. We need funds for more staff to help

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deal with. We need these types of things, um, and, and most of these companies are

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mobile use from what I've heard from. Across the nation They are willing to pony

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up. So, um, my sister-in-law, I don't know the word in my.

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bored over there. And they were approached by a day center and they approved it,

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which I was very shocked that they did, um, but they had said basically like we get

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our own water, we pay for our own energy, blah blah blah, and they're investing millions

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of dollars into the account, so it's going to The schools, it goes to healthcare.

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It goes to, so I definitely think that that's, you know, if they meet the requirements

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that they have, I, I do 100% agree that they need to invest in it. I don't know how

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you write that in, but I, I kind of feel like, I mean, that's what he does down in

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Tucson. They spend. Google's about salary or helping with housing and um infrastructure

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schools and I feel like it would be involved or kind of like for us. No, and, and

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most of them, like I said, I get all calls from those people all over the nation.

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They will, but, and, and you don't have small. What seems ridiculous to us

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is nothing to them. Um, and like I said, it does not mean that I necessarily agree

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with everything or that you guys agree with everything, but if we can meet those

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requirements, I think we do need to have that caveat of, OK. You're gonna invest

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in our community. You're gonna invest in our faith to help improve our community

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and our standard of living. Because you're gonna be a partner now in our community

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and we'll have to track. Do we have any um Mhm.

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Have we, I haven't checked in, obviously I can't. What did you do? I mean, I have

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not heard that it's It is not moving towards us, so that's something to keep in

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mind too is. We want to have these things. We want to have them. Some of them are

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not moving. We have, um, I've been some different reports done by different community

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organizations, different groups, different things like that. I.

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These are Across the whole state. Like biggest impact that you've seen in 40 years

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tremendous growth in the valley probably has something to do with that and they don't

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even look like they're going to slow down until after 2030. Yes, so I, I would agree

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with that 100% and they say they want to get rid of the coal fired power plants.

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Yes. Um, but, so they are looking at and stressing over.

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How are we going to get all this power? And this doesn't include Any new disease

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centers? Any new Water users, anything like that. That's just basic supply and demand

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of what's already here because it got so hot everywhere and then we have, you

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know, and it was you have to be cold too. I mean, yes. It is a personal problem.

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Yes, no, it is. Yes, we use electricity like it's free. Yes, we do because we wanna

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be comfortable, so it's not gonna change. No, well, and, and, and in the valley,

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I mean, I can't live because I would, I would literally, I would be dying. I would

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be like, no, I might be just leave me in the pool or something with a cabana because.

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11,500 whatever it got like I, that's just crazy. Um, but yeah,

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so that is, that is. Part of the reason I made it so why these projects are not

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moving very fast is because the grid does not have that power, um,

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even with, so we, we do have a natural gas line that will be coming to our apartment.

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They, they are getting it. There will be an open house next month, um, so we'll update

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you more on that. Very great company. Um, we are. hoping that there will be

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some benefits. In the long run to the community to provide some alternative forms

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of power that way nothing is set in stone yet, um, but even with that, I don't think

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they can run most of these off of what we have or even what we're going to bring.

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A lot of them are happy to try and do their own power, which is very, very difficult,

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but I'd be, I'd be interested to see how that one in Wyoming is giving her power.

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I actually want to be here tomorrow the next day, so

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I, I would be very interested because I know across our state. That is one of the

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biggest things and that's why NEC's new CEO would like to be involved because he

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knows how much power they take and what it takes, um, and so like I said, whether

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that gets written into code or how we do that, I, I will take that to the attorney.

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That would be one of those, and we'll figure that out and how to work that in, but

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he's very much wanting to be a partner. With the communities to help make sure that

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We're not taking power from our residents to supply a company that We were trying

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to cut one more than 2 cents. Some type of it was almost like the spotted out situation.

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There was some type of something that was there and they ended up not doing it and

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I, I do think it is a high probability that we will probably see something come our

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way eventually. No, I, I heard the chicken that's going in down we have. It's gonna

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end up happening, so I think it's good that we're addressing this and that you get

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whether it's directly in here or it's in the county. Part of the reason companies

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are looking this way is because of blank. It they're not necessarily thinking, oh,

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how am I gonna get water and things like that. It is the fact that there is open

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land that seems very like. Uh, they typically don't look at the law and power and

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those type of things until it's like, oh, we don't just have this. Um, I know one

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of the things that, and I'm not sure how they're gonna do it, so. The water, same

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thing was for like when the one is asking me. I personally feel like with water,

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if they're going to be a large water user or there's a high demand, they need to

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show proof that they have the water they're claiming. It cannot just be a claim.

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There has to be some type of backup documentation whether it's well testing, um,

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you know, divisions. Yes.

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Yes, and I don't know why that's not listed in the development standards. Um, that

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would be my recommendation with it is that they need to show at least 90% of the

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water use minimum. Um, and I don't know how you guys feel on that, but I would say

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at least 90%. And it has to be backed by the same water, so it's gonna take for us

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to hear. That's what I'm saying. It could. I know we, we as a town have drilled deeper

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into a deeper aquifer, and there is that worry. So then it's, if they can prove that,

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you know, more data centers and larger water usage, do they have a way to recharge.

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Uh, that's the new single door, yeah, well, it's like down here, um, between us and

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second house, uh, around Seattle where he, he did build them those pumps to pump

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Bobby back into the aquifer because they have to keep it at a certain level, and

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so. And that you're gonna have the same thing here because you know. Um And

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different things and, and, you know. We are already just our population.

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Watch what we watch over here in the summer. Um We don't have the infrastructure

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for a large industrial. Place, I mean, our sewage needs to be updated

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because all you have is a pond out there. I mean, there's a lot of struggling and

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they want to treat that, yeah, but, but yes, the water definitely needs to be hit

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to find out exactly even if they have to bring water because I mean even Phoenix

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down there and it's gonna keep growing in some of those communities down there, they

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don't have water to. The no places that they're building, the houses that they're

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building.

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Yeah, but they're selling houses instead of selling them so they don't have to have

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that 100 year rule. There are some houses that are, they're in Tucson also, and they're

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big over in the Prescott area because they could not prove 100 years' worth of water,

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so they rented the homes. So you have subdivisions that are just people renting them

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don't sell them because they can't prove the water, you know. So you've got, I mean.

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This is why, like I said, this is why we wanna have these discussions and so that

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we're thinking of these different things and we can come together cohesively to say,

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OK, I want. Weeds are crazy, um, sewage maybe just eating all of that,

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um, you know, some of these plants they have. Potential toxic waste they have potential

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things that are harmful. How do you mitigate that? You know, and they need to have

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a plan for that, um. I'm trying to think of some other things that some of the things

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that we cannot be concerned about too is um. The tear down so that there's money

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sitting in a pile. They have bonds, the bonds for decommissioning part of it because

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If any of our sawmills here, if there was a decommissioning issue that went down,

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that building wouldn't be there anymore. We would be looking at steel buildings.

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We would have to take the cement out and make it back to

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and that's some of the stuff they're fighting over, um, and that's too is how.

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Because that's the most and then we can put money up not just simple bonds. No,

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it depending on the type of industry it also increases

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based on the type, um, and, and kind of again back to the footprint and what type

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of footprint. They have the bonds will change based on them, um, and that's something

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again so Navajo County came up with something called a development agreement and

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so that's kind of what I'm trying to work on and get um because it will cover a lot

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of these kind of the extras of, OK, we want you to be able to decommission well you

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need to do. There's something about where it goes into some fun that we come out

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with and cash brows so that we have to have something that. Because companies can

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disappear and then the cash is gone.

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Yeah, the bond does not disappear even if the company is, um, but I would have to

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see whether, and I'd have to look into it more, whether it's a bond between the company

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and the town and so the town is the other holder of it. And so even if the company

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goes away, there's still those funds sitting there that are accessible so that even

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if the town has to pay the ticket down. There's still those funds to come in and

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take that down on how I, and I have to look into that a little more, but it's kind

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of like it's a two-sided bond where it's not just in the Or it goes into this

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fund that's not controlled by the company but they have to put it up front and then

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if they stay or you know agreements are made later because they're self-functioning,

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OK, you get so much back that otherwise you keep that's what that whole county has

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said with the city because most of these companies come in and build it and then

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they sell. So it can't be, yes, because they end up selling the business 2 or 3 times

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and then all this stuff is coming in and they're trying to push in. It's one group

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of, you know, it's a group. They sell it, they sell it, and then you want it's not

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their problem anymore, but they're the ones that are living here.

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Yeah. They've done a lot of work in that whole county. They learn a lot in and learn

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the hard way and so I know they have some of the answering the things that they went

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in to. They're common, but we need to come home. Yes,

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yeah, and that's why I said I just wanted to start the discussion. I didn't want

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you guys to feel like. We're just saying yep that's what I'm doing well and we're

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not we're not making this we are making this we do want these things we want all

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these discussions that make sure that we really fine tune this so that if they come

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in we have those requirements um when I was in the government we did nations, you

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know, and basically we had to give them permission to be able to do that process

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and we have our hands and Be involved in, you know, so that you can just disappear.

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You know, so that would be something of form factory and. Um I gave them permission

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00:42:45,019 --> 00:42:50,008
to The next company authorizing them to be able to take it over like they just can't

411
00:42:50,008 --> 00:42:56,078
take it over. I mean we do remissions all the time. So you had to review the people

412
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,003
that were gonna take them as far as their financial capabilities go and then they

413
00:43:01,003 --> 00:43:06,023
were just following all the rules and they just didn't like basically handle what

414
00:43:06,023 --> 00:43:12,032
we have in an agreement and we were stuck with these new people. I When we're talking

415
00:43:12,032 --> 00:43:16,005
about code, like, can you build something like that into code, or is that an overreach?

416
00:43:16,088 --> 00:43:22,083
How does that, how does that work? Well, and I think if we get like those developer

417
00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:28,096
agreements, they're not necessarily code they're the backup that we have, yeah, it's

418
00:43:28,096 --> 00:43:35,067
just a component we could probably stipulate that into the development agreement

419
00:43:35,073 --> 00:43:43,004
of. You know, and if you show doing this, we could do this X Y Z. Yeah, it's the

420
00:43:43,004 --> 00:43:46,005
government of this code we had it written that that was a process that they had to

421
00:43:46,005 --> 00:43:52,001
follow up and, um, you know, because, uh, we didn't want to enter into a contract

422
00:43:52,001 --> 00:43:56,038
with somebody. And then down the road you'll be the seller and you're stuck with

423
00:43:56,038 --> 00:44:01,086
somebody that really cannot even support the original contract and I, I think there

424
00:44:01,086 --> 00:44:07,078
is a way and now I'm telling you I know is done a lot, um, and I frequently am communicating

425
00:44:07,078 --> 00:44:12,098
with their development director, um, and economic development director, and so I

426
00:44:12,098 --> 00:44:16,098
will see if they put it in the code or if it's just the development agreement. I

427
00:44:17,049 --> 00:44:19,007
just see what is it you need to say a little more about the.

428
00:44:21,056 --> 00:44:28,026
We just had them at that meeting. So our association brought in. A supervisor and

429
00:44:28,026 --> 00:44:33,033
their town manager. Oh, I mean the farms and stuff they came in with what they're

430
00:44:33,033 --> 00:44:37,025
changing, how they're trying to protect the community and stuff and they're trying

431
00:44:37,032 --> 00:44:40,008
to, they're trying to make that happen so I don't know why I'm sitting in that meeting

432
00:44:41,003 --> 00:44:46,081
without, but, and it's hard because when the power and I mean even as our PMT we

433
00:44:46,081 --> 00:44:53,086
are kind of like, hey, we have to have. Some of these other forms. And they're not

434
00:44:53,086 --> 00:44:58,054
saying one is better than another or anything like that, but they, they're like we

435
00:44:58,054 --> 00:45:04,067
need some other things until we can get to whether that's nuclear, whether that's

436
00:45:05,019 --> 00:45:10,054
something else that's higher, um. They're, they're in agreement that we need other

437
00:45:10,054 --> 00:45:12,078
things and so trying to be open minded, yes.

438
00:45:14,093 --> 00:45:21,019
As you can talk and then you know I have with your son help us with people um.

439
00:45:23,011 --> 00:45:29,093
I and then I looked at the, the, um, the ordinances and all that stuff and everything,

440
00:45:29,099 --> 00:45:37,098
even the top parts of 1852. Mhm. I think it's all.

441
00:45:38,081 --> 00:45:46,001
A lot of the, yes, exactly, it's just a so, so what I have done is, is because it

442
00:45:46,001 --> 00:45:47,021
was you talked about that.

443
00:45:49,042 --> 00:45:55,009
So I googled it at data centers, and my question was, how dangerous are they?

444
00:45:57,042 --> 00:45:59,004
Well, as far as,

445
00:46:01,005 --> 00:46:06,057
so it says data centers are not physically dangerous to the general public in terms

446
00:46:06,057 --> 00:46:14,013
of radiation directly, and they do not emit, I always see this word wrong, ionizing

447
00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:21,025
radiation. OK. However, large scale, hyperscale, and fossil fuel power data centers

448
00:46:21,025 --> 00:46:27,005
create significant environmental, health, and economic hazards and. Then it goes

449
00:46:27,005 --> 00:46:34,048
to do it. So the key risks and dangers are air pollution. That it can put out

450
00:46:34,094 --> 00:46:42,041
um and then the amounts of the massive amounts of electricity I know you guys are

451
00:46:42,041 --> 00:46:50,002
probably all over it and gone and stood under the electric yeah you're here for one

452
00:46:50,047 --> 00:46:58,044
thing and that's not safe to live under either. Um And it's it which is met by

453
00:46:58,044 --> 00:47:06,039
green fossil fuels. They're also in the lack of so yes. Generators that

454
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:13,086
emit nitrogen oxide and find critical matters which would lead to asthma, cardiovascular

455
00:47:13,086 --> 00:47:21,057
disease, and increased childbirth. And so I mean I'm looking to go. All the infrastructures

456
00:47:21,057 --> 00:47:28,003
that are coming in to see if any of them and noise pollution on here because they

457
00:47:28,003 --> 00:47:35,013
have the cooling back fans, the HVAC system, generators running continuously 24/7.

458
00:47:35,005 --> 00:47:41,084
The generators can cause noise levels of CEA 529 decibels, so somebody has to knock

459
00:47:42,046 --> 00:47:45,072
the sound and so we probably should have that.

460
00:47:53,054 --> 00:47:58,038
Um, I don't know if we specifically said there were many guesses, but yes, like noise

461
00:47:58,047 --> 00:48:06,047
we need to find to kind of what our Happy media ninjas, I guess, on Decibel Sounds

462
00:48:06,049 --> 00:48:12,039
and, and that's something that we've been working uh on staff wise of, you know.

463
00:48:13,036 --> 00:48:20,055
How loud is a sawmill decibel-wise, um, because that used to be in and how loud is

464
00:48:20,055 --> 00:48:23,054
that? How loud is a Um, yeah,

465
00:48:25,083 --> 00:48:32,079
none of those are too bad. I mean they don't run 24/7. You know, so what's acceptable

466
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:40,027
for Daytime and what needs to be kept for a potential 24/7.

467
00:48:41,018 --> 00:48:45,006
Business, uh, because depending on how close they are to work,

468
00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:51,038
you know, that's even where I live.

469
00:48:54,062 --> 00:49:01,052
I wonder if we need to resolve. You know, surrounded Um

470
00:49:04,048 --> 00:49:05,034
It was now.

471
00:49:08,007 --> 00:49:11,018
It stinks really bad. I can see that it's just.

472
00:49:14,097 --> 00:49:18,091
Yeah, it's not that small industrial obvious to me. I mean, you probably don't even

473
00:49:18,093 --> 00:49:25,031
see that on the left, but there's 10 acres, 10, 5 acres next to my house. That that's

474
00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:29,035
how they don't use it that way because they use some industrial and they kind of

475
00:49:29,035 --> 00:49:35,096
use it more as commercial and and it's hard it's hard to resent it only because if

476
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:43,057
we do find. A good match, but yes, maybe it causes some noise and

477
00:49:43,057 --> 00:49:50,065
some things that people are OK dealing with that. Do we take that away? Um,

478
00:49:51,018 --> 00:49:58,081
we, we, we have. And it makes me think we have a alternative fuel company

479
00:49:59,023 --> 00:50:06,049
that Interested. In the sauna, and it probably would have caused. Some noise,

480
00:50:07,001 --> 00:50:12,084
some problems that may have been, you know, some things like that. But what they

481
00:50:12,084 --> 00:50:20,053
were willing to bring to me. I think that we All of that, um, and

482
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:26,032
they lost interest really quick because of all the talk around the alternative and

483
00:50:26,032 --> 00:50:33,051
some of that, um, and so yes, I agree, I think we need to be maybe a little more

484
00:50:33,051 --> 00:50:38,048
responsive maybe that's where we don't necessarily resemble, but maybe we make those

485
00:50:38,048 --> 00:50:45,083
classifications, the different classifications of. This out there where most of our

486
00:50:46,001 --> 00:50:53,097
industry that we're hoping to get those is our heavier industry use, louder

487
00:50:54,013 --> 00:51:00,023
industry use, whereas those two maybe are more of the commercial flashes that is

488
00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:00,058
easier.

489
00:51:02,082 --> 00:51:10,074
We find those two being those that not that goes there or you know

490
00:51:10,074 --> 00:51:16,089
not the broader centers there those type of things those have to be a different classification

491
00:51:16,089 --> 00:51:24,077
of still industrial so maybe like a C2 yeah yeah maybe something that we look

492
00:51:24,077 --> 00:51:31,006
at like that because you know we do have all these homes there. And we got things

493
00:51:31,007 --> 00:51:39,006
like this, we look at. We can look at different programs similar, similar-ish

494
00:51:39,006 --> 00:51:45,044
that has maybe those different breakdowns of industrial um and do a similar thing

495
00:51:45,044 --> 00:51:53,044
here of like, hey, this is now going to be. C2, I2, yeah. And, and these are

496
00:51:53,044 --> 00:52:00,092
the things that are allowed. Here's your CUP. But they still can be OK in a

497
00:52:01,041 --> 00:52:07,008
residential area. It's not going to be detrimental to those people. And then our

498
00:52:07,008 --> 00:52:13,012
bigger, heavier users all get pushed out towards our industrial point which is up

499
00:52:13,012 --> 00:52:19,056
on the Mesa up there in the former plateau, um, and they will do something that way.

500
00:52:21,053 --> 00:52:26,062
And, and we had carpet last night too because the windows. I know.

501
00:52:29,051 --> 00:52:33,009
I mean, I learned so many things with this. I mean, I think there's a lot of key

502
00:52:33,095 --> 00:52:41,026
things, and I don't want this to just be dads. I, I really do wanna develop a better

503
00:52:41,026 --> 00:52:47,084
coding, a better development standard that goes for any industry that's coming in

504
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:52,001
because any industry comes in will have an impact on our community.

505
00:52:56,008 --> 00:53:02,007
Um, it says a lot of scarcity, so I mean, um, the, uh,

506
00:53:04,013 --> 00:53:09,025
So, you know, they do a lot of work, you know, these are a lot of water serving,

507
00:53:09,027 --> 00:53:16,069
and I noticed, um, the limit that. It's against the ones she had put in there. To

508
00:53:16,084 --> 00:53:22,097
about, you know, if they recirculated or whatever, but it also says in here.

509
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:33,016
Our supplies and and and how are we gonna handle it during graphics time. Um And

510
00:53:33,016 --> 00:53:40,055
so and then you know I mean we have a little right here. And, but, you know.

511
00:53:41,006 --> 00:53:46,089
Um You know, contamination of our water, so we need to look at that stuff within

512
00:53:47,007 --> 00:53:47,058
the industrial

513
00:53:49,077 --> 00:53:55,004
and then of course it says higher household energy. The sudden soaring surge in electricity

514
00:53:55,004 --> 00:53:59,096
demands and dance centers constrained the power railing drive of utility and loading

515
00:53:59,096 --> 00:54:04,077
costs for local residents. You have to think about that because I mean you don't,

516
00:54:04,083 --> 00:54:11,003
you know, it's not, um, electric magnetic fields, high voltage power lines and heavy

517
00:54:11,003 --> 00:54:18,099
electrical equipment associated with large campuses. Of large. Generate

518
00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:26,003
ordinary electromagnetic appeals to feel them that um to have all them history restrictions.

519
00:54:26,085 --> 00:54:33,081
And it also talks about fire. We're definitely in a fire area and so on and so forth.

520
00:54:33,083 --> 00:54:40,051
And so, I mean, we need to look at any industrial thing that's coming in. To see

521
00:54:40,051 --> 00:54:46,000
how it's gonna impact the security. Yeah, so that's why I think that's today, and

522
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:53,059
I do agree with two separate different kinds of In industrial areas because something

523
00:54:53,059 --> 00:54:55,071
quieter or something that just worked for him.

524
00:55:01,025 --> 00:55:08,079
Um, but to me this opened up a lot more. You know, things of any industrial

525
00:55:09,031 --> 00:55:14,082
that's something even that the first one is very good and the other one doesn't really

526
00:55:14,082 --> 00:55:20,071
do much for you at all, right? And so a lot of this, I think, needs to be. Put in

527
00:55:20,071 --> 00:55:26,058
there somehow, yet we need to look at it as a a board and people need to be aware

528
00:55:26,058 --> 00:55:33,085
of this is what we're gonna be looking at. And this is something I wanna keep. Discussing,

529
00:55:33,087 --> 00:55:41,059
keep bringing what I would like to ask is that each commissioner, um, and I was just

530
00:55:41,086 --> 00:55:48,094
with commissioner colonel is give it when possible kind of developing your list for

531
00:55:48,094 --> 00:55:54,097
each of you. Um, here's my concerns. Here's what I would like to address so that

532
00:55:54,097 --> 00:56:00,005
I can go through that with you. We can kind of find you that, find the spots where

533
00:56:00,005 --> 00:56:05,077
things are going, but then also, hey, this person thought at this point that we need

534
00:56:05,077 --> 00:56:11,039
to have and we need this and that, um, and then we can also add in things that we

535
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:17,009
see or that we're hearing about that. Haven't, um, you know, been speaking with not

536
00:56:17,009 --> 00:56:23,041
all things like that and seeing some of what they're going to kind of trying to backtrack

537
00:56:23,041 --> 00:56:29,025
and fix, um, and then that way we come with like a list and then next work session

538
00:56:29,025 --> 00:56:35,041
we can kind of say, OK, here's exactly what we would like for what this is what we

539
00:56:35,041 --> 00:56:41,012
need to see minimum, um, you know, and, and how do they recharge or how do they do

540
00:56:41,014 --> 00:56:47,015
these things. Um, sewer, you know, are they gonna help build a, a new treatment plant?

541
00:56:48,028 --> 00:56:54,075
Do they help them out so that their waste products are not moved into our ponds that

542
00:56:54,075 --> 00:57:00,095
are very sensitive, I guess, to those different sources and different chemicals.

543
00:57:01,024 --> 00:57:08,034
Right now those ponds we use the um The fluid to go out to the fields for the farmers.

544
00:57:08,065 --> 00:57:13,032
Well, if there's chemicals in them, we can't do that. Um, same thing with RV farms,

545
00:57:13,034 --> 00:57:18,019
and that's kind of another reason to bring this up is you have the chemicals that

546
00:57:18,021 --> 00:57:25,012
RVs have to use. We don't necessarily want to do that. So, you know, we need to develop

547
00:57:25,012 --> 00:57:30,068
a treatment plant, treatment facility, um, that's something that they may have to

548
00:57:30,068 --> 00:57:37,067
help with in the long run, um. You know, always concerned what are acceptable decibels,

549
00:57:38,009 --> 00:57:43,003
what is acceptable in these areas, but I would, I would like to ask if each of you

550
00:57:43,003 --> 00:57:47,092
could kind of go through and just set up a workflow so that we can try and get that

551
00:57:47,092 --> 00:57:54,027
ready for the next work session and so we kind of have a punch list of These are

552
00:57:54,027 --> 00:57:59,014
exactly what we're gonna go through to get info and if you don't think we fit where

553
00:57:59,014 --> 00:58:05,059
we can put them info, OK, we need these in our development agreements that we expect

554
00:58:05,059 --> 00:58:12,035
to have with every single industry that comes. And maybe we can make that into code.

555
00:58:12,099 --> 00:58:20,003
It's a code requirement that every industry has to sign a development agreement with

556
00:58:20,003 --> 00:58:27,052
the. Even just, um, you know, we're talking about the bowlers, you know, you're gonna

557
00:58:27,052 --> 00:58:33,058
have somebody that could because I mean they could like try to ram the building and

558
00:58:33,058 --> 00:58:38,078
cause a problem so yes and even photos or something that you'd wanna put in there

559
00:58:38,094 --> 00:58:44,026
yeah so that you know yeah I mean anything that you guys can kind of think of but

560
00:58:44,026 --> 00:58:49,065
I just think that would better help us align our conversations um because I mean

561
00:58:49,065 --> 00:58:54,064
I know we could sit here again for a long time and go over multiple things so I would

562
00:58:54,066 --> 00:58:59,078
really like to get a really good list of this is everything that's like. Go over

563
00:58:59,078 --> 00:59:03,089
those and then be like, hey, did we come up with anything else? Did we see anything

564
00:59:03,091 --> 00:59:09,042
else that maybe we're missing? So we need to have mixed um.

565
00:59:12,007 --> 00:59:16,013
in there, but I mean when I worked for the irrigation company, we had to have an

566
00:59:16,013 --> 00:59:23,062
emergency management. Came in and the damn woke up there

567
00:59:23,096 --> 00:59:28,095
who's the person to call and who's this and that so they need to have an emergency

568
00:59:28,095 --> 00:59:36,086
management system also because and I know this is chemical pipes or something

569
00:59:36,088 --> 00:59:44,067
burst or And it's headed for the river. What's the course of action? Yeah, yeah.

570
00:59:44,099 --> 00:59:49,092
Who are you gonna call first and who are you gonna? No, and I think that can be added

571
00:59:49,094 --> 00:59:56,032
into code under because that is kind of the fire and more safety requirements, um,

572
00:59:56,034 --> 01:00:01,028
and so I think that's things that we can add in but if you guys are OK with that,

573
01:00:01,003 --> 01:00:07,009
I think that would really help moving forward. To have a really cognizant list of

574
01:00:07,014 --> 01:00:12,045
this is what all of you asked for. Between Mo and I, we would get it all compile

575
01:00:12,045 --> 01:00:17,054
them together, kind of give maybe some suggestions, um, but like I said, I mean,

576
01:00:17,071 --> 01:00:23,036
I'm working on COVID development standards going from like this to it's gonna be,

577
01:00:23,055 --> 01:00:30,006
it's gonna be, it's going to better align us with what we need in our community instead

578
01:00:30,006 --> 01:00:37,068
of just. Hey, you can just do Mhm. There are people that need to be. Part of this

579
01:00:37,068 --> 01:00:45,007
discussion and help. I mean we talked about. Now that that would be great that we

580
01:00:45,007 --> 01:00:50,015
must be involved in certain things, but others, I mean, Monica is gonna have all

581
01:00:50,015 --> 01:00:51,058
kinds of information she's gonna

582
01:00:54,004 --> 01:00:59,071
she, she had to be out tonight, yeah, and so is there other people like that that

583
01:00:59,071 --> 01:01:03,004
are very knowledgeable that we have. Well, like

584
01:01:05,009 --> 01:01:12,033
especially on the water. I mean just I really just industrial is huge. It is not

585
01:01:12,033 --> 01:01:18,097
a residential home and it can infect the whole town I mean in goodness sakes coming

586
01:01:18,097 --> 01:01:25,042
in so I think there will be times where I, I maybe it's the next one. Do I think

587
01:01:25,042 --> 01:01:29,071
it's January. We'll kinda, I'll kind of fill it out and see after we get your list,

588
01:01:30,008 --> 01:01:35,001
um, you know, I asked the town manager to come. I asked our water sewer operator

589
01:01:35,001 --> 01:01:40,055
to come in to help provide that information. Um, I think, you know, pioneer should

590
01:01:40,055 --> 01:01:46,083
probably be involved as well as for the ditch companies because there's some potential

591
01:01:46,083 --> 01:01:51,018
issues there in the world of Colorado. Why can I not

592
01:01:53,071 --> 01:01:59,014
Uh, it's a commission, he said, well, actually, the one that the judge Latham is

593
01:01:59,014 --> 01:02:06,094
the actual one that's over. Oh, is he over that now? Well, he's the judge over, yeah,

594
01:02:07,015 --> 01:02:08,009
that's the plan he just.

595
01:02:10,048 --> 01:02:17,014
Yes, so they deal specifically with the word Colorado. Is it the word Coloradoization,

596
01:02:18,006 --> 01:02:26,004
the judification, yes, um, and we also have to just get more

597
01:02:26,012 --> 01:02:32,045
about the tree because a lot of it is in there, yeah, and you know, so they may,

598
01:02:33,064 --> 01:02:41,028
we may need to involve. At least maybe Judge Lisa on the appointee for that

599
01:02:41,028 --> 01:02:49,012
section of it, um, and he sees, um, I'm trying to think to fill on the bus when we're

600
01:02:49,012 --> 01:02:54,076
not per se and the experts in all of that I think if we come up with these general

601
01:02:54,089 --> 01:03:02,019
placed this list and then we start breaking it down and giving how much time. Mhm,

602
01:03:02,047 --> 01:03:09,026
I, I mean we honestly think like, you know, I'm dating that's just And then we're

603
01:03:09,038 --> 01:03:15,009
in those viable we don't put in and then the next time is electrical and so we bring.

604
01:03:16,033 --> 01:03:21,072
And see it and ask him to come to a meeting and and have him sit down with us and

605
01:03:21,072 --> 01:03:29,044
say hey here's some realistic um noise would be more of a PD and we ask PD not only

606
01:03:29,044 --> 01:03:37,019
who is but also from a standpoint well yeah and we would bring in the fire and medical

607
01:03:37,072 --> 01:03:45,015
which is crazy or maybe possibly bring in like Wes West papers from around the region.

608
01:03:45,087 --> 01:03:47,076
Or somebody from that, you know,

609
01:03:51,019 --> 01:03:56,003
yeah, I think, you know, depending, I think you have, yeah, other communities are

610
01:03:56,003 --> 01:04:02,019
in the same boat and counties. I really think that holds ahead of anybody in this

611
01:04:02,038 --> 01:04:07,062
local area because of what, yeah, they've already let certain things in and they've

612
01:04:07,062 --> 01:04:12,065
got a lot they've got like 8 those are approved and 14 coming in they're trying to

613
01:04:12,068 --> 01:04:17,054
get those in between they're trying to. What went wrong in this one and we do their

614
01:04:17,054 --> 01:04:22,009
own in their code so yeah they're they're way ahead of us whether it's something

615
01:04:22,009 --> 01:04:27,046
you like or not but it's something to start you off with and and I do like I said

616
01:04:27,046 --> 01:04:32,005
I have communications with their economic development director before they tell me

617
01:04:32,026 --> 01:04:37,058
and then the last and I'm sure I asked them to and then they kind of go over something

618
01:04:37,058 --> 01:04:45,015
for us as far as like development. I'm sure he will be happy to come in. Give us

619
01:04:45,018 --> 01:04:53,000
the best. So good, the bad and the ugly. Um, I gave that, yeah,

620
01:04:53,017 --> 01:04:57,032
and we could even do that like he, he wouldn't have to come, but we can certainly

621
01:04:57,032 --> 01:04:58,006
set up things like that.

622
01:05:00,087 --> 01:05:03,097
No, thanks for coming. He, he really does.

623
01:05:06,074 --> 01:05:11,023
because they're on payroll so I don't know if he come overnight for this. He might

624
01:05:11,023 --> 01:05:15,095
and, and, and I worked with Supervisor Whitey. That's been much of the problem with

625
01:05:16,095 --> 01:05:20,042
running things and getting involved is they have all their meetings during the day.

626
01:05:21,062 --> 01:05:24,007
This is when those people are working, yes,

627
01:05:26,095 --> 01:05:33,003
um, but that's why I would kind of like to get like each of your comments that I

628
01:05:33,003 --> 01:05:38,004
know Christy had a bunch of thoughts and things she wanted to because I think that

629
01:05:38,004 --> 01:05:43,063
would better help us help me more. Here's good starting points and let's kind of

630
01:05:43,077 --> 01:05:49,094
put things together that match and work so that when we bring in. People are all

631
01:05:49,097 --> 01:05:54,082
more watchable than us. Have a little more experience we can concentrate on, OK,

632
01:05:54,091 --> 01:06:00,015
this is what they're gonna cover and the next time we cover these two things and

633
01:06:00,043 --> 01:06:02,058
kind of see what they have if you guys are.

634
01:06:07,019 --> 01:06:11,094
So maybe we should start soon because that's gonna take, yeah, so if you guys could

635
01:06:11,094 --> 01:06:17,009
work on trying to get me your list like within the next week or two that gives me

636
01:06:17,095 --> 01:06:25,033
time to get those compiled talk amongst ourselves and with the master and Potentially

637
01:06:25,033 --> 01:06:31,069
our legal counsel and have that all ready and try and get it out to you several weeks

638
01:06:31,069 --> 01:06:36,041
before our next meeting so that you guys can look and see and then tell us, hey,

639
01:06:36,078 --> 01:06:41,097
I don't see this and I would like this on there or we need to have these things um

640
01:06:41,097 --> 01:06:46,008
just remember if you send emails please just send them to you and I do not send them

641
01:06:46,008 --> 01:06:51,087
to each other or same thing with any communications we don't wanna have. Any other

642
01:06:51,087 --> 01:06:57,066
meaning issues, anything like that, uh, you will see us doing this at the next meeting

643
01:06:57,072 --> 01:07:02,082
in November or I wanna have some more discussions and hopefully we would already

644
01:07:02,082 --> 01:07:08,072
have that list, um, and if we feel like there's enough, I could see if our operator

645
01:07:08,076 --> 01:07:14,079
at least for water and sewer will come in and kind of give us an idea of hey here's

646
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:22,068
something or at least do a writer for us. Here's what we have. Here's what these

647
01:07:22,068 --> 01:07:28,032
type of things would need or would cause for our system, um, and have that even if

648
01:07:28,032 --> 01:07:33,052
you couldn't be here in person. And maybe we start with some of those, um, you know,

649
01:07:33,065 --> 01:07:38,036
I know Chief Conrod is around and he's happy to come and talk about those types of

650
01:07:38,036 --> 01:07:44,013
things too, so we could potentially even have both of them where they're on staff

651
01:07:44,013 --> 01:07:48,092
in the same town. They can maybe come and start and, and help give us a background

652
01:07:48,092 --> 01:07:54,096
on, hey, what are some fire and safety. Issues, medical issues that you see that

653
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:01,056
we need to be covered in this, um, and then another time that maybe we ask um She

654
01:08:01,056 --> 01:08:07,063
thought I would come in for PD and have him give some background and stuff so I mean

655
01:08:07,063 --> 01:08:12,062
I could certainly see about setting that up for next week if we get it soon enough.

656
01:08:13,016 --> 01:08:18,095
I won't be here next week. I have an unexpected surgery, um, so I will be, yeah,

657
01:08:19,012 --> 01:08:24,087
so I'm not where you from, so I won't be here next week, um, but I can certainly

658
01:08:24,087 --> 01:08:26,062
get you in this prior to.

659
01:08:31,014 --> 01:08:32,033
I believe that's what it is.

660
01:08:35,027 --> 01:08:42,089
Sorry, let me double check. Yes, well, let me verify because it's technically

661
01:08:42,089 --> 01:08:50,004
elections the first week it should be us. Depending on counsel.

662
01:08:51,021 --> 01:08:56,009
So let me just verify, plan on the 10th. But I will for sure verify. But again, if

663
01:08:56,009 --> 01:09:02,055
we could get that in the next like a week or two, that would give us time to get

664
01:09:02,055 --> 01:09:08,003
that off the board and out to you at least a week or so before the 10th meeting.

665
01:09:08,043 --> 01:09:11,004
And if we push it back, then that just gives you a whole week.

666
01:09:14,085 --> 01:09:22,028
Um, but yes, we plan on, we plan on. Usually when I do elections and things like

667
01:09:22,042 --> 01:09:26,081
white council to the farm, which actually works out good because that's around the

668
01:09:26,081 --> 01:09:32,029
time our natural gas company may be coming in. I wanted to come to council. So if

669
01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:35,097
any of you are interested in that, we'll bring it back up again during our meeting.

670
01:09:36,006 --> 01:09:41,029
Um, I will just need to know if any of you plan to come to that council meeting with

671
01:09:41,029 --> 01:09:45,088
the natural gas company. Have you been? Explaining what's going on and anything like

672
01:09:45,088 --> 01:09:52,035
that because we will need to post a possible film if there's enough. So it's not

673
01:09:52,035 --> 01:09:59,048
that you can't come. Um, they are looking at having, having an open house at the

674
01:09:59,048 --> 01:10:05,032
high school out of the form of the 18. But on the 17th, they want to come to council

675
01:10:05,032 --> 01:10:10,002
and kind of For example, what they're looking at and what they would do and I will

676
01:10:10,002 --> 01:10:15,044
send those back up to you. I can't twist them to as part of what coming in is to

677
01:10:15,044 --> 01:10:21,031
keep bringing that mind to tell this company. No, I've been holding the points of

678
01:10:21,031 --> 01:10:27,052
other communications. Um, and something, so we are pushing to try and make sure that

679
01:10:27,054 --> 01:10:35,042
there's room on the line that we can get it to. Yes, yes, that, that is a big

680
01:10:35,042 --> 01:10:43,041
push that we. As that are trying to do is to try and get that natural gas to be another

681
01:10:43,041 --> 01:10:49,009
option whether that gets to home really quickly. I don't know, but at least it's

682
01:10:49,009 --> 01:10:51,026
there and it would be a special.

683
01:10:54,056 --> 01:10:59,015
I, I hope I never have to care of anything. But they're not gonna have any alive

684
01:10:59,038 --> 01:10:59,086
on each other.

685
01:11:04,008 --> 01:11:09,073
Not that there, but when you're heading down, there's, there's no guarantees in spring.

686
01:11:09,084 --> 01:11:15,068
You said needing a form which, what, so if, so say that you come to the council even

687
01:11:15,068 --> 01:11:21,027
for like our Christmas party that we have for him, um, because council's coming,

688
01:11:21,039 --> 01:11:27,086
you guys come, all of those things because you are a group that makes decisions,

689
01:11:28,028 --> 01:11:34,049
we have to legally post that there is a potential or possible form. Um, where there's

690
01:11:34,006 --> 01:11:42,003
4 or more of you that come to the same event or same meeting, um, and that you guys

691
01:11:42,003 --> 01:11:48,099
will not discuss. Amongst each other, what's going on at that meeting or anything

692
01:11:48,099 --> 01:11:53,024
like that. Um, so you're welcome to come and I encourage you to come so that you

693
01:11:53,024 --> 01:11:55,009
are educated on that, but

694
01:11:57,021 --> 01:12:01,008
Yeah, you just, you have to tell me before if you're calling me how I'm coming so

695
01:12:01,008 --> 01:12:06,066
I can we'll sit so somebody can't come back and say, oh, I saw 4 PND commissioners

696
01:12:06,066 --> 01:12:10,006
there and oh, they were, they were chatting and they were talking about it. We, we

697
01:12:10,006 --> 01:12:15,092
don't wanna get in trouble. That's another open meeting and this is to attend like

698
01:12:15,092 --> 01:12:23,092
the 17th. Yes, it would be the council meeting on the 17th. Uh, but they,

699
01:12:24,009 --> 01:12:28,006
they're called Energy Transfer, um, very nice company. I already talked to them,

700
01:12:28,085 --> 01:12:36,064
but they are kind of like the subcontractor of the main. Provider that would be

701
01:12:36,064 --> 01:12:43,024
bringing the line to SRP. And then usually at 6 o'clock. Yes, councilors at 6 o'clock

702
01:12:43,024 --> 01:12:49,008
too, and then they'll have an open house the next night, uh, at the auditorium because

703
01:12:49,008 --> 01:12:55,004
it's usually the meeting day. So this is an extra. Um, so the, so council technically

704
01:12:55,004 --> 01:13:01,054
can meet the 1st and the 3rd. 0, typically council just meets the 1st because we

705
01:13:01,054 --> 01:13:07,085
don't have enough for the 3rd, um, unless we do that. And their sons we do. And in

706
01:13:07,085 --> 01:13:13,016
November we do because they try to sometimes not have a December meeting either,

707
01:13:13,058 --> 01:13:21,033
um, sometimes we'll have them in November. Do they do the double trophy? I think

708
01:13:21,033 --> 01:13:26,008
that's partly quarantine and then I think it's primarily prepping.

709
01:13:30,046 --> 01:13:36,076
Well, and, and that's one of the discussion we're trying to have which wasn't. I'm

710
01:13:37,012 --> 01:13:42,052
sorry. Anybody upside our bills it takes to take care of it because they don't want

711
01:13:42,052 --> 01:13:48,021
us to lose it. And that's the other thing too is like I said with this community.

712
01:13:50,048 --> 01:13:54,027
That could be something that that came in it's like, OK, hey.

713
01:13:57,038 --> 01:14:03,038
X Y Z. Here's how much money they need. How much would you give instead of it being

714
01:14:03,071 --> 01:14:10,055
a broken or, hey, we need the gas line. To the bill. And, and, and they might, they

715
01:14:10,055 --> 01:14:15,063
might if it's a company that's willing, um, and that's not off the table. And I don't

716
01:14:15,063 --> 01:14:19,092
think we should take anything off the table. Anything and everything that you can

717
01:14:19,099 --> 01:14:25,009
potentially think of that we need to cover in COVID that can potentially be announced.

718
01:14:26,027 --> 01:14:29,007
Put it up and then you times it by 3 because by the time I actually do it it costs

719
01:14:29,007 --> 01:14:31,005
3 times more uh-huh.

720
01:14:33,088 --> 01:14:41,086
Unless he's like, don't give the question. Have shows news that just all the

721
01:14:41,088 --> 01:14:48,011
stuff's going on. I, I need to hear more about that. I think that the latest estimates

722
01:14:48,014 --> 01:14:51,091
that was like 86 million in the summer and a half in the 40s or something like that.

723
01:14:52,003 --> 01:14:56,052
I just think this much money. Is it 86 now? It's time to get everything they get

724
01:14:56,006 --> 01:14:58,093
permissions. Everything is. I mean.

725
01:15:04,042 --> 01:15:08,029
I need to look into that one more. I mean, it, it looks intentional. Don't get me

726
01:15:08,029 --> 01:15:10,097
wrong, but I, when I looked at it.

727
01:15:16,006 --> 01:15:18,015
It was actually in pain also.

728
01:15:23,089 --> 01:15:29,091
The whole thing is it actually apply to more than just that, but no, I would like

729
01:15:29,091 --> 01:15:37,086
it like I said across the board even maybe it won't apply necessarily to commercials,

730
01:15:38,012 --> 01:15:45,063
but I do think we need to also once we get this kind of we need to as well and to

731
01:15:45,063 --> 01:15:51,003
develop better standards for commercial development standards. COVID is old.

732
01:15:53,029 --> 01:15:59,066
It's great, but it's old and there's so many new things that have happened. That

733
01:15:59,066 --> 01:16:06,014
we need to continue to evolve and update things so that it fits what our community

734
01:16:06,025 --> 01:16:07,016
wants but it also.

735
01:16:10,019 --> 01:16:13,035
So I appreciate your attention because I know.

736
01:16:18,071 --> 01:16:23,082
And everybody has a new we just need to move to the journey so

737
01:16:26,035 --> 01:16:34,019
I think we want you to move out. I can just. I make a motion to

738
01:16:39,055 --> 01:16:41,003
I'm sorry, who was that? Joel

739
01:16:43,027 --> 01:16:43,039
Joel

740
01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:50,016
like 10 minutes. I have microphone she's sitting here all day.