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Good evening, everybody and welcome to the July 9th, 2024 city council meeting at 530. Can I get a roll call please?

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Thank you, we please say that for the pleasure of lesions.

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Ready to begin?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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All right, are there any additions to lesions or modifications to this agenda?

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seeing them. We'll move over to reports. Council, do you have any reports for this evening?

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Call me. Mr. Mayor, I've got a couple of two things to report. A little bit of update.

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Number one on the Eagle server district. All tasks included in their option to the sewer district approved long range plan.

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On or ahead of schedule. And part of that, they'll be doing a wet land restoration,

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which I just found out about yesterday immediately south of the treatment plant, where there's

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a pond and apparently that presents a potential hazard in a high-run off situation where they

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almost had a near miss a number of years ago during the high-run off year. What they're going to

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be doing is restoring that wetland and filling in that pond with excess dirt from the

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So, not only will they be restoring a wetland, but they'll also be minimizing potential damage from future flooding,

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which I think is a good thing.

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From the filtration project that they did on the pilot,

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they're going forward with purchasing the permanent filter. And they've shown that over the past year

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from May 23 to May 24, they were able to save $14,000 in charges that would have gone into the

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So, they're pretty excited about that.

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The sewer district is completed in June, 40,000 linear feet of sewer

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clean out.

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For a fiscal year, 24 in June, that was on schedule.

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Also, they approved their fiscal year, 25 budget,

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15 and a half million dollars.

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That was approved in the Chairman,

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Herv, value who's been on the Eagle sewer district board for 19 years, and is the recent

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chairman it retired because he's moved out of the district and he's no longer eligible to be on

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the board. So now Jim, Jim Gruber is now the chairman and Tillie Reed was voted on as the new member.

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Second item I wanted to mention is Councilwoman Mary May and I took a tour of the Orville Jackson

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house and property. It's a very impressive building, the house. It looks much bigger. It is

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much bigger in the inside than it looks from the outside and it was quite the house for its

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day. However, I noticed in my opinion there's a number of safety hazards and health hazards

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inside the house and given the amount of money that was invested by the city into the property

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and the condition of the house.

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I would like the mayor and the council to get a committee form so that we can accelerate the strategic planning.

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What's going to be the ultimate in use of the property and provide those funds so that we can get those.

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Get a plan together that has you know objectives and goals in a constant schedule together so we can accelerate and get that property into the condition that we want.

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eventually want to see it. And as the city wants it. So that's just, you know, my thoughts on that.

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That's all I have to report. Thank you. Anybody else?

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All right. I'll quickly go through just a couple of things.

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With in terms of the Jackson House, it is private property. So we know we've had people that's

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wanted to go out there and look, but because of the liability issue, if you just refrain from going in

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there's no trespassing signs out there, but that just a heads up that and it's also, yes,

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the condition of the inside is not, it's not a safe environment really because it's just a long

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term effects of being closed up and everything and anyhow but that. And also, as we already know,

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legal fundases coming up the 12th and 13th, but I...

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I have had some e-mails given to us, I think, on a few things. I just want to reiterate some of the things, the activities that are actually happening at the ego fund days. They are still having the fun run. They do have vendors at the market. There's concerts, it will still be happening.

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car shows still be happening the wet and wild parade on plausible still be happening and that's

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after the dried portion and it's important that we understand there's a dry portion right before

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the wet because there are people that are going to be there military full uniforms and

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and other classic uniforms and stuff and quite frankly some of the cars that will be there we don't

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want them getting ruined with with water so if you can be cognizant of that that would help out a lot

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But then when the wet parts starts, have at it except for balloons, we don't want people throwing

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balloons due to the fact that there's small balloons and some of them have been put in cold water

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and they could ice over believe it or not even with 108 degrees but we're going to have this week.

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So we're asking people not to throw objects at each other a couple of other kids got hurt last year and

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you know they're half in fun and we don't want to have any issues with anybody getting hurt

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And then they're still having the cornhole turt of it as well.

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So there were some questions about these kind of events happening for Eagle

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Fundays and they will be happening, but Friday night will be at the high

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school and they'll be vendors, food, music and whatnot and then at 10th it's from

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6 to 10 and at 10 30 they'll be the fireworks show from the softball fields

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there.

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So if you live within the area of the high school, you're going to get a great

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show.

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So, but feel free to come there and participate and have fun with that going on.

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And in Saturday, again, there'll be vendors and food and music all out here in this civic

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center from the library all the way through here. And then we'll transverse over to the Plaza

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Road area for the parade. And there's some other activities that'll be happening with the American

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Legion over the Merrill Park after that. And the Grand Marshal this year is a Medal of Honor recipient

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And he's quite, what's the right word, I mean, he was awesome.

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I mean, in his time in the military and some Marine.

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And he's going to be honored as the Grand Marshal for the Parade.

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So that would be pretty fun to have be able to meet him.

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And I'll be an honor to do that as my son's in Marine as well.

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So a little sentimental factor on that one for me.

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But with that said, please come out the Friday and Saturday for Eagle Fundase and enjoy yourself.

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But it's going to be hot.

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We don't have any misters out there.

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So be prepared, stay hydrated, light clothing and hat,

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and all the things that normally you would do in the heat.

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So just like a little health and safety tip for things going on

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with that.

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But that's enough for tonight on my part of it.

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So department heads.

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Would you like to speak?

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Anybody?

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Mitch, welcome.

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Thank you for coming and participating.

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As the attorney tonight, we appreciate that.

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any other departments before, all right?

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Please, Chief, would you like to come up in your presentation, too?

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members.

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Travis Ruby, please chief for the record.

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So tonight, to continue, I want to introduce you to some of our incredible staff, a little

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bittersweet, though, because we are saying, hey, this is who she is, and she's awesome, and

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we're also saying happy trails, because she retires next week.

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But she has served the community legal, the city legal for 11 years, as our major crimes

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detective and done some incredible work here, so I have the opportunity to introduce you to

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to Detective Shree Tucker, but also again wish her some happy trails. Detective Tucker's

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ready to enjoy her well-earned retirement. She began her career at the 80 County Sheriff's

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Office as a dispatcher in 1995 where she thrived in that position for nearly eight years.

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Some of you have seen our new dispatch center, but Detective Tucker worked in the old center

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and the basement with no windows and not a lot of ventilation in a very small cramped space,

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but she did incredible work down there. In 2003, she transferred to Petrol, where I had the

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privilege to go to the police academy with her as one of my two partners. So I got to learn with her

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and she had tremendous amount of knowledge and communications and de-escalation and all of those things

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are just fantastic which benefited her in her career. In 2006, she transferred to our criminal

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Investigations Division is a major crimes detective, so she worked felony cases where a person was a victim.

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Whatever that may be, like aggravated batteries, aggravated assaults, sexual crimes,

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loot conducts, things of that nature.

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She was assigned cases.

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Preserve?

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So for me, I transferred to detectives in 2009, and so she already had three years of experience in detectives,

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and I was also working crimes against persons, but I was very inexperienced,

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And I was smart enough to call people who knew how to do it, and Shree, thank you.

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You always answered my call. I can't tell you how many times she gave me advice, gave me direction, gave me ideas on how to resolve something.

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And I can think of a few times where she came out and helped me with things because I was a little stuck and I needed some support and she was always generous with her time.

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And I know she was that way with me and so I know and I know she was that way with all of our other partners.

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In 2011, she transferred to our domestic violence cases where she specialized, following up on any reports of domestic violence.

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In 2013, she transferred to the Eagle Police Department as our major crimes detective, so for nearly 11 years, she's diligently served the citizens of Eagle.

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She's worked numerous cases in Eagle, her intelligence, her passion, her tenacity, made Eagle a safer place to live work and play.

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Detective Tucker is our most detenured person's crimes detective and our second longest serving detective behind Detective Booye.

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In her retirement, we are losing an incredible amount of investigative ability and knowledge.

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But I want to thank Detective Tucker for incredible service to the citizens of ADC.

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Additionally, she's picked up a couple of collateral assignments. She joined her peer support team.

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And so she helps employees who are maybe dealing with a critical incident or maybe just life things and provides that directions.

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She participates in critical incident in debriefs.

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So she can, we can help our employees process through that and continue along in healthy career.

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And she is our only mounted a troll deputy, I believe.

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But as she retires, she intends to continue to volunteer her time with our peer support team and our mounted patrol.

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So, I would ask you to join me in thanking Detective Tucker for her service day to county,

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but specifically the City of Eagle, and wish her happy trails.

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She's an avid a question, so I want her to spend that time with her family, but Detective

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Tucker.

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And with that Detective Tucker, I would say I'm for any questions.

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Any comments?

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I'm sure there's some comments, but come on up and let you say a few words if you like, and then

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I'm a woman a few words, but I has been my pleasure to serve the city of Eagle for the last 11 years.

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It's been one of my favorite assignments, so that's why I stayed here throughout the end of my career.

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Thank you.

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Great.

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Thanks for the intro.

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Any other comments from Council?

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Detective Tucker, thank you very much for your commitment and your dedication to our community.

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We really blessed to have you here for 11 years.

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We wish you all the very best in your retirement.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And Detective Tucker, I second that as well.

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Just an amazing career you've had ups and downs and just wish you the best for your future.

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Thank you.

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I had Detective Tucker, congratulations on a great career.

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The long career.

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And that you survived it well.

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And I just wanted to wish you the best and the days to come in your retirement.

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I'm sure you'll be very active with it.

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I appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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Detective Tucker is a daughter-in-law of a Los Angeles police officer.

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I thank you very much for your support and peer-related services as well, too.

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So thank you for that component that you're offered, the support to your fellow co-workers.

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I very much value that.

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So thank you so much.

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That's so important.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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say that obviously got to know you for a few years

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and your professionalism was shown every time

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you did something, you know, whether events

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or really on a call or something,

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and here's the deal though,

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you're continuing to provide services

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and your knowledge and expertise

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to your fellow peers, like Councilwoman Gillesburg,

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you're said, and that goes beyond,

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you could have just retired and walked off

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into the sunset, but you're staying in connected

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with something that's valuable to all public safety.

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And so I appreciate that somebody will step forward

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to continue with the skills and knowledge you provide.

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So thank you very much for everything you did.

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And we will miss you.

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So thank you.

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I'll miss you, guys.

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Thank you.

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She will be working Saturday.

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So yeah, it's not retired yet.

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I just want to echo a couple of comments.

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I'm Eagle Fundays.

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It's so important to protect ourselves

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and make sure we have sunscreen and shade

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and plenty of water and hydrating.

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So our partners at Eagle Fire and Native County MS,

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and what I mean, we're all talking and preparing,

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but we want to do what we can to protect ourselves.

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I also wanted to briefly...

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Talk about a case that went to trial last week, and it started at the Eagle Library last fall. And we ended up getting a conviction on the case, which is fantastic news for the community, for the city of Eagle.

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But I really appreciate our library director and his staff for being aware of something that seemed out of order and odd and calling us and letting our staff get out there and investigate.

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and then Detective Hague Mentorner actually picked up the case and she did a fantastic job working

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in this case.

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But I know some of our city employees had to testify during that process, which is different.

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But because of our eagle director and his leadership and our police department and our

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prosecutors, which young Bennettson, her office, eagles a safer place, because of all

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their work.

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I just really appreciate that.

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I had the opportunity to take Councilwoman Ginnosberger and some of our department directors

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on a tour of the jail and show them a little bit about that and I just always appreciate

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being able to share that with people because I'm so proud of the work that our jail staff

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does and the things that they do, the medical visits, the social work activities they have

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to do, just keeping people safe, keeping each other safe and so I appreciate it that time

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to share with all of you.

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The last thing that I have is in Eagle Fundays, there is a dunk tank on Friday night, and I believe it's a fundraiser, and I would like to win.

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So if you're so inclined to come dunk me, I would appreciate that.

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But Chief Lewis from the Fire Department is in there just before, and I think the mayor is just after me.

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But if you want to pay a few extra bucks while I'm in there and support our local charity, that would be fantastic.

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And with that I would stand for any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Chief.

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For everything.

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All right.

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I'm not going to put the turning on the spot right now, but unless you had something you

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want to bring from the firm.

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Thanks.

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We're glad you're here tonight, though.

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All right.

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Next, we move on to six.

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The presentations.

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Eta County presentations for a few things.

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Nicole, you want to start that off, please?

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Good evening, Mayor and Council.

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Tonight you have a presentation from Eta County.

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You have it. You'll have for you. I'll land. Let's send who is your community planning manager.

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Steve Rutherford, the Chief Operating Officer, and Colin Mackawini, who's going to look really familiar to you.

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Because she does a lot of impact fee studies in this valley, but tonight we're asking similar to star in the presentation.

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How do you last meeting? For you just to hear what they're presenting to you, this is a request for impact fees for the coroner, ENF, EMS, jail and sheriff.

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and then give the staff direction to begin the process of taking these this request forward.

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As you know, impact fees require action by your impact fee advisory committee, your planning

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and zoning commission and then finally by you.

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And there's a myriad of documents and amendments that have to go together, including

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interlocal agreement for fee collections and those type of things.

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But today we really just want you to focus on yes, you want us to move forward with this process with the county

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Or if you have concerns that you want them to bring back any questions to you before you direct us to move forward.

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Cool.

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Awesome.

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Thank you all.

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Hand it off to the end.

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Thanks, Sam.

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All right.

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Thank you, Mayor Council members.

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Leon Letzon.

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Community Planning Management at the county.

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Thank you for the introduction and for pronouncing Colons.

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Last name correctly because I was concerned I was going to miss that.

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So we are here to talk about our impact fees.

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We've been working to update impact fees for Eagle Fire, which I know is a little bit outside of the city of Eagle, but, you know, impact fees are important for addressing growth related needs as infrastructure and equipment and other things are required.

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I'm going to try to keep this high level. I might have too many words on these slides to accomplish that, but stand for any questions at the end and as Nicole mentioned, if you have specific things that you would like us to follow up on regarding additional information or

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outstanding questions. I'm happy to answer those. I will make one quick point. We are not

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seeking sheriff impact fees inside Eagle City limits. We're not doing that for any of the jurisdictions

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because they either have their own police forces or they have contracts with our existing sheriff.

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So we're only collecting impact fees for the sheriff in unincorporated counting. So just to heads up as we move

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through this presentation. So unfortunately, this is a longer timeline than I'd like to admit,

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But we started exploring impact fees in early 2019.

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Not many counties have done this across the state of Idaho.

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We are going to be probably the second or the third county to try to get this done.

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But we started researching it in early 2019 and a lot of this timelines before my time with the county.

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So I get to put some blame on somebody else for that.

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But in late 2020, we actually hired Galena Consulting to develop some capital improvement plans.

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and impact views for our Sheriff J.L.E.M.S. and Corner.

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In this ring of 2021.

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We completed that and had our impact for the advisory committee recommended approval to our board.

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So, on the summer of 2021, through the summer of 2022, we started engaging with our city partners on the collection of these impact fees,

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because the reality is a lot of the growth and permitting that a designated county is happening inside of city limits.

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So, a designated county going alone and trying to collect these on our own isn't really going to do the job in terms of collecting the fees necessary to support the infrastructure needed.

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And so that was kind of a longer process.

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Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to talk to this group during that period of time,

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but we spent a lot of time with Q&A, Boise, Meridian and other cities just talking about how this would proceed.

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In the spring of 2023, we realized we've been at this for a while,

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and some of our city partners asked us to go back and kind of dust these off a little bit

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and see if the information is still fresh.

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You know, we were coming out of COVID, growth was exploding in the valley.

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We just wanted to make sure we had all of the right information in terms of

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how population is going to grow, what construction activity

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looked like, so forth.

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So in 2023, we hired Tischler Bice and that's

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Collins Group to open these up, dust them off, take a look,

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and believe it or not, our fees dropped a little bit.

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So we're all kind of excited about that.

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In terms of what we actually needed to collect per household

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and different things like that.

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In 2024 of this year, we ran it back

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through advisory committee.

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They again recommended approval of the CIPs

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and the proposed impact fees.

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And so now we're engaged in the process

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is talking to the cities again.

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And this is definitely all people

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rolling in the boat in the same direction at the same time.

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As I mentioned before, it's kind of tough for one city

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to opt out of impact fees.

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And for us, it's still justified the infrastructure

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needs that are required to make this work.

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So again, we're kind of in this dog and pony show

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for lack of a better way to describe it.

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Just talking to each city about why this is important to us,

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and hopefully why you want to get on board.

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So to Nicole's point, we are kind of asking

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to start the process with your staff to dig into the CIPs and other details of this project

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and see if you guys have more questions and try to answer any of those.

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We are currently in the adoption process with Data County.

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How we handled this with fire districts and other groups like that is typically required

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like lead entity to adopt first and then will adopt.

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So Data County is taking the lead in adopting our CIPs first to give you something to adopt

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into your own comprehensive plans.

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In terms of the purpose, I won't get into this too much, but in general, it's to collect

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the impact piece and ensure that adequate public facilities are available to serve new

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growth and development.

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This whole slide could be summarized with growth paying for growth.

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It's not to fix existing deficiencies.

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Those have to be addressed with other things.

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It's not to hire additional staff or service members.

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It's to pay for infrastructure.

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and basically the long term needs facility-wise and equipment-wise to keep serving our community

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the way that we have.

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This is a high level of just the fees that would be collected. And again,

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these are all in the CIPs, and I think an introductory email sent to your staff about what we're

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proposing. Again, A to County Sheriff fees are not going to be collected in the city of Eagle,

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but we are looking for jail, Paramedics, and Corner. We have broken those out into residential,

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and non-residential on a little bit more nuanced after that.

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In terms of methodology, this is probably what we're calling to do a much better job of explaining how these are calculated,

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but there are kind of three different methodologies that you can take to figure out what the impact these are for community.

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There's the cost for covering your buy-in fee calculation.

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So that's where a new development will pay for a share of the useful life and remaining capacity facilities already built or land already purchased.

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Some examples of that, water and service systems, so massive investments, infrastructure-wise,

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and really new growth and development will pay for its benefit of making use of those

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systems.

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So that's a cost recovery or buy-in, fee-calculation, incremental expansion fee-calculation.

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That's documents.

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It documents the current level of service for each type of public facility in both quantitative

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and qualitative measures based on existing service standard.

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An example here is Parkland, Acres, Perthousand Residence.

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And so, this approach ensures that there are no existing infrastructure to fix these or

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surplus capacity and infrastructure.

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New development only pays a support and a share for growth related infrastructure.

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And the last one is plant-based fee calculation, which again is a facility, it's relies on facility

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planning in order to figure out what that calculation is.

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For the most part in calling correct me from wrong, we've used the first two methodologies

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methodologies to identify what the appropriate impact fee is for each of the services that we provide

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at a county. In terms of growth projections, again, lots of numbers here, but there's no

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surprise we've been growing fast and we're going to continue growing, adding 125,000 plus new residents

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by 23,000, that's again across the county. And then just a considerable amount of non-residential growth

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in the retail office.

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So we really are trying to figure out what the cost for each of these categories is in terms of an appropriate amount to collect for the impact fee.

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And this is just a high level of the things that are included in the CIPs. And again, I won't bore you with this too much, but it's just buildings, equipment, apparatus, things that are eligible for impact fees.

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It's not for the hiring of new staff members or different things like that. And it's not to address existing deficiencies. So we've worked hard to figure out what the actual cost is that's impact fee eligible.

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and have asked Colin and his group to figure out what that number is.

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And again, back to the slide with the individual amount per household really kind of breaks down what we're asking for for each service provider.

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And I'll just flip through these real quick. Our jail, everyone's aware that we are looking to expand and improve our jail.

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Capital impact fees or development impact fees could play a huge role in that moving forward.

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the county obviously is you're aware the bond didn't recently pass and we are exploring other ways

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to get this job done. Impact these could play a large role in helping us accomplish a needed expansion

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to our jail. Our corner this is interesting one we've actually built a facility or it's under construction

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and impact these are using to find out or pay off the debt associated with the corner facility,

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which is again eligible for impact fees. And then finally our EMS team this is for new stations

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new ambulances and new equipment, they have, again, a lot of contracts in different parts

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of the county as well, so we've worked hard to understand each of those contracts and

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make sure the impact fees are appropriate for that.

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In terms of our next steps, as I mentioned at the beginning of my presentation, we're starting

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the adoption process of our CIPs.

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Once we hopefully have the adoption by all the jurisdictions in A to county, we'll then start

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process of establishing the ordinances and we'll be asking the cities to establish their own

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ordinance as well to collect those fees on behalf of a county similar to how we collect

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those fees on behalf of the fire districts and so forth. We'll work closely to the staff

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on their legal teams. We'll have model ordinances that they can look at to see if they work

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for them. Each city is allowed to modify theirs as they see fit if there's something they

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want special in there. And then we'll also have interlocal agreements which will identify

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how we collect the fees in terms of who collects it, who sends it to, and what things,

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how things like exemptions, individual assessments, and appeals are handled.

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So that's a TV, a TV, basically, but we'll be working closely with your staff and legal

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team to figure out how all of that works.

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So that's my presentation.

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Again, I do have our Chief Operating Officer in Consultant if you want some more technical

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detail, but I'm happy to stand for any questions.

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All right, thank you for the presentation.

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The Azari questions or comments for this.

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Mr. Mayor?

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Go ahead.

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Where do you stand right now with the other cities in the county, as far as they're

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willingness to join the parade or not?

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Get in the vote and roll with us.

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You know, we've had great initial conversations with a lot of the city's, city of

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Garden City, we've had good conversations with their city attorney and their mayor.

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And yeah, Meridian, we're doing actually presentations with them pretty soon, and Q and

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never presenting next week.

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So everyone's kind of ready to do this.

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We've had, you know, that timeline I showed at the beginning, they were kind of where we

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wanted to pursue this.

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And we pause, basically, to clean everything up, dust everything off.

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And so they've kind of been waiting on us to get back to them and pick this up again.

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But it's in general very supportive.

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So, and just for clarification, these fees would be applied to new new construction, all right.

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That's right. Yeah. Any new household or any new non-residential space, we can't go back and

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retroactively collect them. So, thank you. And they're one type fees. There are one time fees. That's correct. Yeah.

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Okay. Any other comments or questions? Thank you. Okay.

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All right. All right. I think Leon, thank you. Thank you.

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Mayor and Council, we're just looking for your direction to begin the process for the city of

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Eagle.

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It does not make an action from you just to kind of a doggy on the dashboard approach.

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If you all are concurrent that you would like us to begin this process with our impact

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fee advisory committee, our PNZ, and with yourselves.

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Thank you.

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What's the pleasure to cancel?

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Thank you, Mayor and Council.

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Have a great night.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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All right.

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We're going to move on to number seven, which is consent agenda.

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All consent agenda items are considered action items, consent agenda items are considered

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be routine and are active with one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items

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unless the mayor, a council member, a member of the city staff, or a citizen request to

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item to be removed from the consent agenda and the discussed.

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Members removed from the consent agenda will be placed on the regular agenda in a sequence determined by the city council. Any item on the consent agenda, which contains written conditions or approvals from the city of eagles, city staff, planning and zoning commission or design review board shall be adopted as part of the city council's consent agenda approval, motion and less specifically stated otherwise. We have seven eight through pizza night with any council members first, like to pull any item.

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Mr. Mayor.

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I'd like to request that we pull items 7-H-7 hotel modification to the common area landscaping within Rocky-Nay Ranch subdivision.

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Okay, that each is or anybody else.

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Council would like to pull in something.

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All right.

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If you staff member, would you like to pull anything from the consent agenda?

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Mr. Mayor, remember the accounts of staffs waiting.

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There were aware that there's an applicant that would like to pull one of their items off of the consent agenda as well.

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Okay, I was going to get to the public last.

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All right.

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All right.

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What that said, is there any citizen that would like something pulled from the

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Consent agenda?

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Okay.

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That would be what letter would you like come up and see your name and address for

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00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,320
the record and what letter you would like?

444
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,540
I mean, is Kathy Wilkins 1015 South Bridgeway place,

445
00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:34,200
either Idaho?

446
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:35,100
I'm sorry.

447
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,700
I don't know the agenda item, but I just for the conditional use permit.

448
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:39,600
for,

449
00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:48,700
yeah, I would just request that that be postpone till next session, possible on the 23rd.

450
00:31:49,660 --> 00:31:52,640
Did you have a reason to help with that?

451
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,480
Yes, I'm considering submitting a letter of reconsideration.

452
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:03,560
And at the time of approval, a 14 day clock starts, and I'm gathering information on a sound study.

453
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,420
There's seen a few more days time.

454
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,780
Okay, and that's just so we can get that on the record.

455
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:09,020
Yes, exactly.

456
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,520
All right, thank you.

457
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,980
We'll work on that in a second here.

458
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Is there any other citizens?

459
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
We'll like something pulled from the consent agenda.

460
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:21,580
All right.

461
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,720
Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve consent agenda items?

462
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:29,740
A through P to the exception of H and K.

463
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,140
Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve consent agenda item seven A through P,

464
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,680
excluding H and K.

465
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:36,680
Thank you.

466
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,220
Have a motion to have a second.

467
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,660
Any more discussions?

468
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:42,240
roll call please.

469
00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:46,620
Thank you.

470
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,140
We'll move on to letter H.

471
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Would like that one.

472
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,780
Mr. Mayor, Council, had a question.

473
00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:00,120
As I was review, I actually a little bit of a concern.

474
00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:05,440
As I was reviewing the package and then conversation with the staff earlier this week.

475
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,580
As I understand, a part of this modification application

476
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:17,600
had is including the wellhouse. And I see that both the wellhouse and the community center are identified

477
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:24,800
as having a roofing of black asphalt shingles. And I was kind of curious about that because,

478
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:32,220
you know, as a fine equality as a development, this is going to be as I hope it's going to be.

479
00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:37,780
I was hoping that the well-house would have a little bit higher quality

480
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,720
Roofing material than what's being proposed as black asphalt shingles.

481
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,760
I was wondering if staff might be able to clarify that that's the case

482
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040
that the well-house is part of the modification

483
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,680
and that the senior or the community center is not

484
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,160
and if there's somebody from the development here

485
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,300
If they would be willing to address that and consider having a higher quality

486
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,520
of a single going on those two buildings.

487
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,280
Good evening, Mayor and Council. Emily Falco, planning staff for the record.

488
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:16,880
The applicant is here and can answer any questions.

489
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,680
The well-house building is a part of this application and currently calls out the Class A

490
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,220
Architectural Schingel style.

491
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:30,540
So I don't know if you want to have a dialogue with the applicant on different options

492
00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:37,620
or I would, I would, if that's permissible,

493
00:34:40,590 --> 00:34:42,790
which is that we're fine with that, correct?

494
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:47,530
Yes, okay, thank you,

495
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:50,900
keep you involved here.

496
00:34:54,890 --> 00:34:57,470
And also just for the record, our attorney

497
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:59,610
Victor is also on the line.

498
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,240
He's going to speak. He's welcome to interject at any time. He feels relevant. You guys, of course,

499
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:13,800
spot as you need to hear it? I actually have him on text as well and we have him on the phone.

500
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:20,240
It's muted and he felt ill and sent me here and he's also listening in.

501
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:25,060
Okay, I think I just want to let the public know too that we have some correspondence and may need to be done

502
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:27,980
and that's the reason behind it, so thank you.

503
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,440
Okay, thank you for the afternoon,

504
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,440
come up and present to the council.

505
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,680
Mr. Mayor, council members, Rodney Evans,

506
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:36,060
Rodney Evans and partners,

507
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,920
1450 West Bank Street, Boise, Idaho, A-3702.

508
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,640
I am actually the planner and landscape architect

509
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,840
for rocking a ranch.

510
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,060
Our architect could not make this meeting.

511
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:52,380
I would like to just kind of take you guys through,

512
00:35:52,380 --> 00:36:00,180
What was approved in design review for our community-barning clubhouse this time last year?

513
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:08,520
And then show you what we brought in for our design review modification last month.

514
00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:20,780
In terms of some site changes we had an addition of a city owned municipal well-lot and well-house.

515
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Just to give you

516
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360
an idea of what we brought into designer view.

517
00:36:49,170 --> 00:36:54,730
So this is our community barn and clubhouse located right off the road at the southwest part

518
00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:55,450
of our development.

519
00:36:57,110 --> 00:37:05,430
This is actually a timber frame barn that's designed and fabricated and then shipped to Idaho

520
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:14,800
from the Barnyard. It's a custom wood manufacturer in Connecticut that my client has relationships with.

521
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:22,360
And we brought this through, like I said a year ago, and when we brought the

522
00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:31,370
wellhouse in last month, we tried to mimic in the best way we could the architecture of this community

523
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:37,950
clubhouse and barn. Granted, you have to imagine a hundred by a hundred wellhouse lot that

524
00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:45,110
I, as a landscape architect, have screened as much as possible. West of us is our quest

525
00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:52,470
room facility and a horse pasture field. North is this by about 150 feet is this community

526
00:37:52,470 --> 00:38:01,550
Center. East is a large pond and then south is a huge six to seven acre open space.

527
00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:12,750
So when we brought the wellhouse in, we needed to do it with him budget because we're

528
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:19,690
paying for it, the city's not. We have just now finalized our drilling of that well, but

529
00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:24,070
are kind of negotiations with the city of a water department

530
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:26,150
are not even finished at this point.

531
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:28,870
But we had to bring this wellhouse in to get it approved

532
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:31,250
by the designer view board and staff.

533
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:38,810
So if our conditions that came from the,

534
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:44,120
from Emily designer view staff

535
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:47,420
related to the materials and colors

536
00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:57,840
that our architect did not show on these current elevations, you see, and then just about

537
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:07,840
an hour ago, I got a new drawing from the architect, and we have materials now on the

538
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:17,300
siding the fascia, the trim, which is hearty board, and the black classic asphalt shingles are called out.

539
00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:23,600
We have been approved through designer view for our community clubhouse and barren previously

540
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:32,460
to use black asphalt shingles. The height of that building is over 25 feet. No one is going to see those shingles,

541
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:40,280
but they are classy architectural. So, my client and the architect thought let's just keep

542
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:47,280
look consistent, quality, and that's why we went the black asphalt shingles. I cannot

543
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:54,300
speak to asphalt versus composite, but I'm sure composite is a lot more, and we would prefer

544
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:59,960
not to go that route. If the city could help us with that, we'd probably rethink it.

545
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:21,640
But we have this wellhouse and this pump station and the drilling and the site and the fencing around it on our dime. So to put it plain and simple, we can't do everything at the highest level possible. We didn't do our community clubhouse that way.

546
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,540
So, that's, that's, that's, is much information as can give you the history of our

547
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:33,320
approvals with designer view and I'll stand for any questions I can answer.

548
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,280
It tells me to call me go ahead again, did you, I thought I heard an

549
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,460
probably might have been wrong, did you say plastic, black, asphalt, single,

550
00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:52,760
class A, class A, yes sir. Okay, got it. Yeah, I, I, I, I am really excited about this overall

551
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,560
development. I'd like to see more of these in the city vehicle, this, this type of development

552
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:05,020
with the open space and the, the quality that it, the potentially has. And I like the architecture

553
00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:10,100
of the, the, the, your barn and the community center. And I'm, I'm sure the architecture

554
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:18,900
of the well-house is fine, I just find that black asphalt shingles is not going to meet the

555
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:25,040
quality that I would hope that this development would have and there are a number of options

556
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,440
that can really enhance the appearance of this without being that much more expensive.

557
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,840
I would just hope that you would consider that down the road.

558
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,360
I guess we could, but at this point we'd like to stay with what designer views approved in

559
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:52,080
past and currently last month, so I don't fully know the cost of what this is, is costing

560
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:59,120
my client, but it is a large amount of money to give this municipal wellhouse to the city.

561
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:07,720
And we had not planned on that, and the two years prior until it came up with a city of

562
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:14,960
water over a year ago. And this is we're going on two and a half years working on this project

563
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,880
and planning it. So. All right. Well, thank you for your information. Appreciate it, Margaret.

564
00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:24,380
All right. Any other questions or any other questions or concerns or comments?

565
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,280
All right. Well, thank you, Rodney, for coming up and explaining that to us. Emily was there

566
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,320
anything else you wanted to add for Councilmember Kwame prior to, okay. Thank you. I just want to give

567
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:46,800
the opportunity there. All right. Well, you would pull this as any other questions with on the Council to Councilman Kwamey on it before it makes a motion.

568
00:42:52,830 --> 00:43:00,050
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion regarding agenda items seven HDR two out.

569
00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:06,710
two three dash twenty two mod one modification common area landscaping within rocking a the ranch subdivision

570
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:14,240
to accept as is as presented.

571
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:18,220
Okay, have a motion to have a second. Second.

572
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,540
Hey, roll call, please.

573
00:43:22,190 --> 00:43:25,570
Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi.

574
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:31,230
Okay, thank you. Now we're going to go down to letter K in where to go

575
00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:45,080
build a good question for you then.

576
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:54,340
wait all the way to these, or Haley, when it, okay. Mr. Mayor, members of the council,

577
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:57,280
Haley's going to see if the applicant is in the lobby, okay.

578
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,540
Right, I'm not sure where

579
00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:18,080
she went, but I, I think we heard what she would like to have this pulled, or, or, or,

580
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,200
do you, do you, do you get, you got the information from her prior then? Yes, Mr. Mayor,

581
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:27,060
members of the Council, the applicant is requesting that this item be removed from the consent

582
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:34,660
agenda this evening and re placed on the next council agenda on July 23rd, consent.

583
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:38,060
Okay, somebody want to make a motion for that.

584
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to table item consent agenda 7K, the facts and findings

585
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:53,340
and conclusions of law for the denial of the CUP-2024-02 to our next meeting on July 23rd.

586
00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:54,940
Thank you for the motion to have a second.

587
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,260
Second.

588
00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:57,340
Roll call, please.

589
00:44:58,740 --> 00:44:58,920
Aye.

590
00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,820
Aye.

591
00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:14,500
Aye. Aye. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Haley. All right. We're going to go on to eight, which is unfinished business. This is an action item. EGLE Sports Complex, Park and EGLE rodeo review. Nick Paul.

592
00:45:23,170 --> 00:45:29,610
Good evening, Mayor. In council. No corb and answer for the record. Let me find this.

593
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:43,000
You received this memo by email and I'm a copy of, and then PowerPoint has been prepared since.

594
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,260
Tonight we're just to talk about the eelsports complex and the eel radio.

595
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,720
Talk a little bit about how the regal rodeo went this past season.

596
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,000
And then where we're going with the sports park as they are on the same site.

597
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:02,500
So tonight, just over your 24 rodeos, that is in time line of eelsports complex and then discussion of coordination and how we move forward.

598
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:14,040
So, as you know, in 2020 to the city acquired 80 acres, there's an additional 10 acres on the other side of the canal, but within the can at Farmers Union canal, there's 80 acres.

599
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:30,600
10 acres was purchased by the city as a straight purchase deal with the landowner, and then the remaining property of the remaining 70 acres was purchased through a impact fee agreement reimbursement agreement with GWC, the developer of the Valnova.

600
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:36,100
at that point in time, the city underwent a conceptual master plan study in which this is

601
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:41,140
the selected alternative that we are working towards development. It's generally in three

602
00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:46,460
phases, four fields in this location, four fields in this location, and then flat fields in this

603
00:46:46,460 --> 00:46:53,420
location. I'm going to kind of keep going. So jumping from the site to the Ego rodeo, so the

604
00:46:53,420 --> 00:47:00,500
Ego rodeo is a five year facility lease at 866-60 West Civic Lane. It was agreed upon by the

605
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:07,740
in 2023. It's 10 acres on equestlain. It's a graduated lease payment started at $500 the

606
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:13,940
first year and will terminate near $5 at $2,500. It's a land lease only, which means it's

607
00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:20,040
only intended to be the land that the review works on not the structures. There's a house that

608
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:26,540
I'm barren on the structure now. And it's a non-exclusively, which means the city can use the property

609
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:33,440
or at least the property for any other purposes we wish to use it for in the non-rodue of period of the year.

610
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:38,480
So the first year was 2023 and we received some significant concerns and complaints

611
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,420
about traffic congestion from the site all the way down to US-2026.

612
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,320
Pedestrian J walking across 16, Pedestrians walking along the shoulder of 15, 16,

613
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,180
the rewiring and the house without permits and some physical alterations to the barn.

614
00:47:54,120 --> 00:48:00,360
The mayor at that point received a request in February of this past year to be in discussions

615
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,000
about the rodeo for 2024.

616
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,580
At that point in time, the mayor did a site visit with staff and council is on May and it

617
00:48:09,580 --> 00:48:14,580
was directed for staff to facilitate a process with a little bit higher management level than

618
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:16,300
what has happened in the previous year.

619
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:30,020
So in addition to that 10 acres site, they use a single-year parking license agreement, which allows for the utilization of other portions of the park for parking during their event.

620
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:40,180
It is only good for the duration of the event, and it utilized to address issues that were heard from 20 in 2023.

621
00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:44,040
So, we had bonding in an increased insurance on the site.

622
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,780
There was no paid parking required approvals and services from services agencies two weeks prior to the event.

623
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:53,680
That included HD, Starfire, and Eagle Police.

624
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:56,180
Very required fencing of the non-use site.

625
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:05,680
The required highway signs and managed parking, which means they had parking attendants that were directing people into the site to efficiently use the parking that was provided.

626
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:14,160
They had a maximum daily attendance set at 4,500 attendees, a pre-event, a daily pre-event meeting

627
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,000
with the rodeo and the service providers.

628
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:21,300
City staff was on site during the 4-day event from 6 o'clock PM to the close of the

629
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:22,440
event each night.

630
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:27,560
Then we had a two-week post-event meeting with the rodeo and service providers to walk

631
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,180
through the site and kind of go over the overall event, and then they were allowed to utilize

632
00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:38,020
electric from the house and utilization of the barn for storage for the event.

633
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:44,060
So just to kind of give everybody a perspective of where we're at, this is the 10 acres.

634
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,240
This is 8660 West Equest, and that is the land lease.

635
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,980
Additionally, they were at least another 18, just under over 18 acres for the site.

636
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,720
So the rodeo usage of the site is this 28.76 acres total.

637
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,900
Which is what's shown in colored hatching here. Other uses on the site today are we have a 10 acre lease of the

638
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:15,980
copin property, which is this house here and the associated land. And we also have a 10 acre lease of the

639
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:21,400
tournament house, which is this house here, which is in the plan, the only structure plan to be retained long

640
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:28,440
term on the site. And that is a 10 acre land lease as well. So then additionally we have a five acre

641
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,260
city shop site that's utilized on this. So other uses on the site make up about 25 acres,

642
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:39,260
some of it overlapping. Combining the uses, we have approximately 40 acres that are utilized

643
00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:45,140
on site, which is approximately 50% of the sports park site is currently at some time of the year

644
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,700
utilized or least.

645
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,300
So just to give you a kind of an event highlight of how what happened,

646
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,320
I mean, if you're attendance Wednesday night, of course, was your was your least attended night. It was

647
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:03,680
week, but it was 1853 people, which I understand to be at the increase in the Wednesday night,

648
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:08,880
attendance. Thursday was just under 4,000. Friday was just at 4,000. And Saturday,

649
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:13,120
they nearly sold out. They did not completely sell out, but they got 28 tickets short of selling

650
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,040
out from the numbers I was provided. They never reached capacity of the parking. I know that was a

651
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:23,220
significant concern for both the rodeo and the council. But this is Friday night. They had

652
00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,660
significant land left, they had about two lands,

653
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:27,900
two rows left on Saturday night.

654
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,000
So really the parking was efficiently managed and used

655
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,080
for what was provided through the lease.

656
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:36,060
Opposed event walkthrough and takeaways

657
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,160
at the two-week meeting was that this was the best

658
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,940
attendant and managed event to date,

659
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,100
and better management of the traffic

660
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,680
that we're needed to be better management

661
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,580
in the future of the traffic control contract.

662
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:47,600
There was a hiccup on Wednesday night

663
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,240
in which traffic control did not get completely installed,

664
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:59,320
ITD and the city and police, and fire all sat down with the rodeo and we agreed to a modified plan for that night.

665
00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:04,220
But that pushed a burden onto Thursday to make sure that it was up in place then.

666
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:10,460
So that is really just a better management of that contract and making sure that contractors doing what they need to do on the deadlines established.

667
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:18,700
And then finally, service providers were very happy with the prevent event in on conversations with police and fire.

668
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:22,400
everyone felt that it was really was a very smooth event on site.

669
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,020
So outstanding issues at this point in time after the two week walkthrough is the

670
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:31,540
electrical for the house has not been permitted or restored back to the house, and the

671
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:37,260
rodeo continues to be conceived to occupy the barn. When these came forward as conversations

672
00:52:37,820 --> 00:52:41,680
electrical we were told today would work with their electrician, and that they wanted to talk

673
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:48,680
to the city attorney about the rodeo utilizing the barn. They felt it was part of their

674
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:54,760
I stepped back and engaged Victor in that and that's what we're sitting today.

675
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:56,940
Any questions about the event?

676
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,420
The comments questions for the involved this point.

677
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:05,520
So the cost for the city cost for the event.

678
00:53:06,260 --> 00:53:12,520
The city ended up spending $5,670 more than we received in contract cost recovery.

679
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,700
So the city received $1,000 for the land lease and $1500 for staffing at the event,

680
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:20,540
which is the total of $2,500.

681
00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:25,320
The actual cost for our city attorney was $5,845

682
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,400
to write the land leases in the contracts

683
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,140
for the event staffing, which is just our hourly staff

684
00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:38,380
that man to the event was $2,325 for a total of $8,107.

685
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,180
Please note these numbers do not include electrical

686
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:44,760
for the house, because I have not received the item,

687
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,580
power billing for it yet.

688
00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:52,400
And it does not include your June attorney billings nor exempt staff costs.

689
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,220
So myself and Eric Ziggum, who's our public work structure, our hours are not in here.

690
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,120
These are quantitative touch costs that we felt were probably most irrational.

691
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,600
The important thing for the city is that this did cost the city just almost $6,000 of unbudgeted

692
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,940
or allocated funds.

693
00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:19,200
These funds didn't work sitting in the budget and will be offset in other expenditures within within the city budget.

694
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Any questions?

695
00:54:21,740 --> 00:54:25,590
Of course, it's still on it. Thank you.

696
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:29,110
So I'm going to jump down to the Eagle Sports Complex Phase 1.

697
00:54:29,850 --> 00:54:34,890
So what you're looking at right now is the Accentive Phase 1 construction.

698
00:54:35,250 --> 00:54:42,410
It is the roadway from its polar lane, the relocation, the roadway from EQuast to polar lane and stay highway 16.

699
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:49,670
the construction of the road, a parking area, the grading and construction of four fields.

700
00:54:50,830 --> 00:54:59,430
One of the modifications and exclusions here are, we are not building the temporary road west of the bridge so this area through here is not being built.

701
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,840
The road can work as a two-way road as an interim, and so it was determined that we would not construct the full loop with this phase.

702
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:09,820
It was a cost savings to the city.

703
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,760
There are no bathrooms, so at this point in this bathroom facility is not part of the plan construction.

704
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,560
We would use inner, we would use port of bodies at this point in time.

705
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,360
And then there was no permanent irrigation in the phasing plan at this current time.

706
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,560
We have a sleeve that comes underneath the roadway at this general location from this irrigation pond,

707
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:36,380
but it would be lined man-launt hand lines to irrigate the fields for the first bit of time.

708
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,940
We do have a pump that's already existing in this pond.

709
00:55:40,020 --> 00:55:43,160
It needs to be down, we need to down power it.

710
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,540
It's too much pressure to work.

711
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,360
But we can do that without having to put in a huge expense in.

712
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:51,120
And then finally, there are no field amenities.

713
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:57,760
So, backstop bleachers and fencing are not included in that, and those are additions that

714
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,700
we are working with third-party partnerships to develop.

715
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,660
So, in 2020 for the contracted work on the site was the pulmonary phase 1 grading,

716
00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:16,180
it's the four fields which has been completed. The roadway state highway 16 to bridge is

717
00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:19,620
almost completed and that's our preliminary cut of that roadway and grading.

718
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:25,780
We are in the process of installing the road mix for the all weather surface, which is currently underway if you're out there.

719
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,620
You can see I'm moving and shaking on that.

720
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,420
The underground utilities have been installed, so we have an overground power line that we needed to install

721
00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:38,380
conduit for future undergrounding as we go into phase two of the park.

722
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:41,420
That infrastructure is in the ground.

723
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,180
We will just need to run the line when we're ready to do that.

724
00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:52,580
It also includes city, fiber, intermittent gas and some other communication providers in that

725
00:56:52,580 --> 00:56:52,900
trench.

726
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,980
So that's all been installed.

727
00:56:54,780 --> 00:57:00,040
And then we just last week, yay, I'm so happy, submitted our ITD access permit to get

728
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,620
their approval.

729
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,620
We have a 30-day wait now for comments back from them.

730
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,560
The importance of that is we were given one year from the time we submitted our initial

731
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,980
TIS and it was approved to submit the permit and we met it.

732
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,060
That was exciting.

733
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:14,180
because with everything going on, there was some movement on that.

734
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:21,300
2025 contracted work begins in spring of 2025, and that will be Highway 16 in

735
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:23,060
Polar Lane Access Construction.

736
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,280
This will include Excel and decilings on state Highway 16 running

737
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,800
most of the length of the property.

738
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,560
It will include CUBE, gutter and paving of the roadway,

739
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:35,960
and some utility sleeves adding to go under the roadway

740
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,820
for irrigation lines to run two different portions of the park.

741
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:45,540
These two construction phases, the 24 and 25, are being done through a cost share construction

742
00:57:45,540 --> 00:57:51,680
agreement with GWC and which the city is able to leverage our public dollars with private

743
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,460
dollars to construct it a much lower rate, which has been a huge benefit to the city to

744
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:02,780
get the part kind of moving forward, especially these first phases where you have high infrastructure

745
00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:07,000
costs, the ability to kind of get some of that underground and moving.

746
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:13,120
So we are in negotiation and we had some discussions about ARPA extra funding and that's all to be determined

747
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:28,140
But those outstanding items are whether the city wants to run side and or permanent irrigation for the four fields and there's a retaining wall that needs to happen because the fields actually sit a little bit above the the final grade of the road and whether we want to install that now.

748
00:58:28,540 --> 00:58:30,800
So that's kind of the construction of the park.

749
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,440
kind of for the public to kind of see where we're at. I'm not

750
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,200
I know we receive a lot of questions about that, but any any questions about that?

751
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:40,700
You have a comments or questions?

752
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,280
You've seen all this. So I know you've seen the different agreements.

753
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,600
First time we put it in one place for you, I think. So site conflicts.

754
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:50,820
This is where we're kind of what our concern is.

755
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:52,780
What directions the council want to go?

756
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,920
As I talked to you before, there's a lot of use on the site right now.

757
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:00,620
About half of the site is consumed by other uses.

758
00:59:02,260 --> 00:59:04,840
some more permanent, some more temporary.

759
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:21,180
The city shop is estimated that during construction, we anticipate how are we 16 to be under construction for the entire length of the site, which means we are going to have barricades and then the highway will be narrow down during construction of the Excel desalades.

760
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,400
And the access point is moved from Equestline to Pollard.

761
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:34,580
At during construction, the E-quest lane will stay open but once the caller is done, E-quest lane is required to be closed.

762
00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:40,080
It's not allowed to stay open for the rest of the, once we established the new permit.

763
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:51,220
Additionally, per ITD's limitations, the canal road that serves access to some properties back here in the rear is to go residential only.

764
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:54,460
It is not to be used for part usage at that point in time.

765
00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:59,960
And so, as we talk about this, the city shop is on the site, we have to be...

766
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,880
I think that there's 15 to 20 trips per day that are generated from this city shop. But when we get to the rodeo, it's

767
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:13,980
3,000 to 8,000 trips per day, quite honestly, in a four hour period that is being generated on this site.

768
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:25,960
And a trip is there. So each person going and coming is two trips there and back. So you can see that's that 1500 to 4,000 that's being an attendance at that event.

769
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:32,420
We are not clear how to accommodate that with construction.

770
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:39,060
The previous complaints about the highway construction, the rodeo at the same time was a big issue in 2023.

771
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,160
We do require the closure of E-Quest, and it does.

772
01:00:44,580 --> 01:00:47,440
The city does not control contract timeline.

773
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,600
We work with a third party who is building this on their dime, quite honestly.

774
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,340
We are paying for permitting and engineering.

775
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:01,520
What the developers paying for construction.

776
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,680
We have agreed to spring of 25.

777
01:01:05,860 --> 01:01:07,280
I don't have a timeline for that.

778
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,480
And I probably won't tell spring of 25

779
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,060
when they're ready to start bringing pavement onto the site.

780
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:16,760
And so that makes this a little concern about timing of events.

781
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,520
What happens how intense an event is going on at the same time

782
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,060
is what is happening on the rest of the site.

783
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:26,940
And then I said before this is a visualization rate

784
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:28,840
of the site is just about 50%.

785
01:01:30,340 --> 01:01:33,120
So next steps, I kind of given you a summary

786
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,980
of where we're at, the site is one site.

787
01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:37,180
It's like we're talking about the road,

788
01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:39,800
we're talking about the park, but they're all one in the same.

789
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,900
Quite honestly, it's the same 78 acres of land

790
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:43,940
that's being discussed.

791
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,240
So staff is reconciled requesting council direction

792
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,500
as to the accommodation of the roadio.

793
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:58,700
And at the Eagle Sports Complex in 2025, we know that that's their months, that's their day, that's when they do it.

794
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:05,780
You'll rodeo contact, correct, contract requires a 210 day notice for cancellation.

795
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,860
There isn't ability for us to say we can't do it on the site anymore with what's going on.

796
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,660
Do you want to keep doing it? Knowing what happened in 2023, but having a great year this year, but knowing in 25,

797
01:02:16,660 --> 01:02:21,920
we're going into kind of a more robust construction plan. Do you want to keep it there? Do you want

798
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:29,020
to utilize your 210-day notice? The last day for cancelization is October 21st, 2024.

799
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,880
So that's what we're just wanting to give you that kind of see everything in perspective, what's

800
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,660
going on with us. But I'm open for any questions you may have.

801
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,760
Okay, open the back up to Council for either discussions or comments or questions for Nicole.

802
01:02:49,210 --> 01:02:50,810
Mr. Mayor

803
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:59,530
Okay, Nicole, can you go back to that one slide that shows the two circular baseball fields one that's being built now in ones that's

804
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:01,470
Do for phase two

805
01:03:01,470 --> 01:03:06,710
This one no the one that showed the overall. That is the overall

806
01:03:07,970 --> 01:03:16,540
That showed the highway on it too. I guess stop me when you see it. Okay, that one out

807
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:27,800
Can you kind of point out where the parking lot for this year's rodeo went to in terms of the ballpark that has not been work?

808
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:32,980
So the current access point for the rodeo was Equestal Aid and that was your primary public access.

809
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:40,400
You then brought animals and support in through this canal road on this side.

810
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:47,180
The parking was this area here between EQuest Lane and this new road that's coming in.

811
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:51,560
And then the parking comes over and around this is that house.

812
01:03:51,740 --> 01:03:55,380
If I kind of go to this map, I think it helps you a little bit more.

813
01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:56,500
This is that house.

814
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,600
This is your first four fields. Here's your second four fields.

815
01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:05,240
So this is the tournament house here.

816
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,380
This is the coping property here.

817
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:15,880
So, EQuest they come in from EQuest and access the site and they use this canal road here to access the site.

818
01:04:15,940 --> 01:04:26,500
One of the concerns is during construction ensuring that there's access from state highway 16 into the site for the number of attendees that would be on site at that time.

819
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Because we don't have a solid timeline for roadway paving and construction.

820
01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:38,620
And it does require, I will let you know, the roadway extension here stops about here.

821
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:43,820
We were not able to build the approach or encroachment into ITD's right of way and tell

822
01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:46,340
the time in which we have a permit for them.

823
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:52,740
So you have a graded road and gravel that starts or will have gravel that starts here and

824
01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:53,380
moves this way.

825
01:04:53,540 --> 01:04:58,460
We'll still need to construct this entire intersection in the future, as well as the highway

826
01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:59,820
improvements north and south.

827
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:00,000
.

828
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:14,560
So, even though you don't have a strong affirm timeline, I would expect that the highway 16 construction activities would be come along during the time the rodeo wants to be active.

829
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:23,740
Our conversation with with GWC and Balnova team was there hoping to be on site May June next year.

830
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:34,600
And that has to do with the sequencing of when they're doing paving and improvements on their project sites that they will add this on it as an an add on to their contract for that work.

831
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:41,660
Now that could change. That's what I've been given. That was in a meeting just last week.

832
01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:44,840
Thank you. The other comments or questions?

833
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:58,620
So Nicole, as you stated, we don't control the timeline, and so I know we have had this conversation with the rodeo people, so I know they are looking for an alternate site to host with the timeline.

834
01:05:58,820 --> 01:06:08,180
I think it's only fair if we are going to, and this has been identified as a priority for the city to move forward on this park.

835
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:13,740
It's incumbent upon us to give them as much notice as possible so that they can actively engage

836
01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:15,060
with finding a new location.

837
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:19,280
I don't think we want to push this too far so that they're caught short.

838
01:06:19,820 --> 01:06:23,480
It sounds like we're going to be kind of budding up against the timeline for construction.

839
01:06:24,220 --> 01:06:28,240
And there's a lot of preparation that goes into the rodeo as we know having just gone through it.

840
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:35,940
So I think the council probably doesn't need to make some sort of determination as to what we want to do going forward.

841
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:42,120
Mayor and Councilwoman May. Yeah, the problem is is we don't we won't know the spring timeline by October 21st

842
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,740
Which is your deadline in the contract

843
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:49,520
With the rodeo to make a determination if you're going to continue the contract for another fiscal year

844
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:58,940
That's that's the biggest it's just it's a lot of questions and at this point in time the city is not paying for the roadway construction

845
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,140
That is actually being done. I want to be clear to the public like why this is so important

846
01:07:05,340 --> 01:07:20,580
It's hundreds of thousands of dollars that a developer has partnered with us on this park and this roadway that the city can't afford to not take this partnership and hand and allow them to have control over it the way they are.

847
01:07:20,580 --> 01:07:23,080
and Mr. Mayor, and we're operating on their timeline.

848
01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:24,460
So that's the

849
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:27,860
other.

850
01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:30,380
The other thoughts, concerns, comments?

851
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,920
Mr. Mayor, Mary, I totally agree with everything you've stated.

852
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:37,000
And I do believe that the more time we give,

853
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,900
Vigo Rodio, to begin, I know they are already looking

854
01:07:40,900 --> 01:07:42,260
for an alternate location.

855
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,080
So I would be open to issuing a notice of cancellation.

856
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,600
The other thoughts or comments?

857
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,500
Mr. Mayor, my preference would be

858
01:07:56,540 --> 01:08:04,540
communicate with them, the Egorodio, that is that, you know, there's too many strong headwinds

859
01:08:04,540 --> 01:08:10,440
that are laying up there, and we probably are not going to renew the contract, but you never

860
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,660
know what might happen between now and then, but let them know that it's not looking favorable,

861
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:24,280
but maybe leave it open until we get closer to that deadline, that we probably will, but their

862
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,420
conditions may change, you never know.

863
01:08:29,570 --> 01:08:35,830
Mr. Mayor, I disagree with that strategy because that, you know, is another three months

864
01:08:35,830 --> 01:08:42,950
of time that the rodeo could be continuing their search for an alternate location.

865
01:08:43,690 --> 01:08:47,770
And I believe that's already begun, so I just feels.

866
01:08:48,030 --> 01:08:51,010
We have had some conversations with them about that.

867
01:08:51,090 --> 01:08:52,010
Yes, we have.

868
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:56,030
So, yeah, let's continue the discussion.

869
01:08:56,410 --> 01:08:57,710
I mean, and then you guys can move forward.

870
01:08:57,990 --> 01:09:00,410
So what you'd like to correct yourself to do?

871
01:09:00,730 --> 01:09:05,930
I would go ahead and make a motion then to have staff

872
01:09:05,930 --> 01:09:08,430
issue a notice of cancellation to the Eagle Radio.

873
01:09:10,860 --> 01:09:12,480
OK, that's we have a motion.

874
01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:13,160
Do we have a second?

875
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,200
All right, any more discussion?

876
01:09:16,580 --> 01:09:17,720
OK, like a roll call in this, please.

877
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:19,140
Hi.

878
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Hi.

879
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:21,880
Hi.

880
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:25,000
Thank you, Mayor.

881
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,180
Thank you, Nicole.

882
01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:26,980
Free work.

883
01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:29,420
All right.

884
01:09:29,420 --> 01:09:31,040
Now we're going to move on to public hearings.

885
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:33,080
In the past six o'clock, we're okay.

886
01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:37,480
Public hearings are items considered at action items.

887
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,640
Public hearings will not start before 6pm, which we're fine.

888
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:44,620
Public hearings and legal notices hearings required by state law.

889
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:51,340
The public may provide formal testimony regarding the application or issue before the city council.

890
01:09:51,340 --> 01:09:56,220
this testimony will become part of the hearing record for that application or matter.

891
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,920
Public hearing testimony time limits individuals testifying or

892
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,260
For a lot of three minutes, minutes for non-repetitive testimony. Disclosure of any exparteer, conflict

893
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:08,540
of interest from council.

894
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:15,700
Seeing none, we're going to start off. We're going to move to 9A. It's

895
01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:21,360
a public hearing to consider the new capitalization fee for the city of Eagle Water Department

896
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,600
and Kelly, you're going to start that off, I guess. Yes, that's all right. And I'll open up the hearing

897
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,800
right now with you started.

898
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:37,620
As you know, we've been working on this cap fee for quite some time

899
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,860
and sitting behind me is Ken Aka, our water superintendent and Mike Davis, our engineer from

900
01:10:44,860 --> 01:10:55,620
Haco Engineering, so they are certainly more knowledgeable about things that are not just words on paper than I am.

901
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:07,410
We met with the, which button am I doing wrong here?

902
01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:11,650
Oh my gracious, thank you.

903
01:11:12,910 --> 01:11:18,930
We met with the stakeholders in this, the folks who had been to the public hearings

904
01:11:18,930 --> 01:11:21,450
and who had had questions about the cap fees.

905
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:26,290
We met with them a couple of weeks ago and we feel like we had good resolution.

906
01:11:27,950 --> 01:11:34,090
We included some of their ideas as well in the resolution, a couple of the items that

907
01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:38,230
We changed right here on this particular item with the underlying.

908
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:44,690
We added those words that, that it does not apply to Valnova and have more developments

909
01:11:44,690 --> 01:11:49,310
or any development, not utilizing the capacity in the eastern or western water zones.

910
01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:57,310
As you know, the water study that was completed regarding these cap fees was strictly limited

911
01:11:57,310 --> 01:12:00,010
to the eastern and western water zones, nothing else.

912
01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:02,230
So we added those words for some clarity.

913
01:12:03,190 --> 01:12:07,630
We also added down here in Item 6.

914
01:12:07,810 --> 01:12:10,670
This was a discussion point earlier on

915
01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,770
that these decisions for credits or reimbursements

916
01:12:14,770 --> 01:12:16,530
will be made at the discretion of the water,

917
01:12:16,830 --> 01:12:17,970
the city water superintendent,

918
01:12:18,670 --> 01:12:20,690
but still subject to appeal of the city council.

919
01:12:21,370 --> 01:12:23,570
So people felt like they did have that option

920
01:12:23,570 --> 01:12:25,370
to come back to you and discuss that.

921
01:12:25,870 --> 01:12:28,570
And then the very last thing in section nine,

922
01:12:28,570 --> 01:12:34,130
where the waivers to the cap fee would be granted by the city council, obviously.

923
01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:43,210
And that the fees would be the fees are illustrated in exhibit B for those subdivisions.

924
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:45,510
That this does not pertain to.

925
01:12:45,870 --> 01:12:50,230
The waivers will be formalized in an agreement between the developer of the property in the city.

926
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:56,210
And those agreements will be done by our legal council after this is done.

927
01:12:56,210 --> 01:13:06,270
We also discussed at that meeting with the state holders timeframe that this could go on and they were all in agreement that the timeframe did not need to be long.

928
01:13:06,410 --> 01:13:08,970
Some of the subdivisions are larger and some are smaller.

929
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:16,330
And so some obviously will need to be a little bit longer than others, but we weren't talking about multiple multiple years.

930
01:13:16,690 --> 01:13:22,150
But those will come back to you for your review and approval as soon as those are done.

931
01:13:22,150 --> 01:13:27,610
So that's all that I can think of to share with you right now.

932
01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:32,770
We did, just one of the things though, exhibit B does show the subdivisions that have

933
01:13:32,770 --> 01:13:37,670
paid the preliminary plot fees, that this directly affects not moving forward with a new

934
01:13:37,670 --> 01:13:38,250
cap fee.

935
01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:44,890
And one of those has already paid all of their final plot fees and two others have started paying

936
01:13:44,890 --> 01:13:45,810
final plot fees.

937
01:13:45,850 --> 01:13:46,610
So they are moving.

938
01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:49,710
but these are not just stationary subdivisions.

939
01:13:51,710 --> 01:13:51,910
I think

940
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:56,170
that's it.

941
01:13:56,230 --> 01:13:58,690
Okay, that's it for staff.

942
01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:03,090
At this time, I think I'm gonna open a public testimony

943
01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:06,890
unless we have any other comments for Mike or Ken prior to,

944
01:14:10,710 --> 01:14:13,690
if we get a sheet real quick, sorry, first.

945
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,200
All right, thank you.

946
01:14:35,380 --> 01:14:37,020
We have, looks like we have four people

947
01:14:37,020 --> 01:14:39,120
that like to testify, Lorraine Henry.

948
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,420
She didn't lobby here

949
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:49,580
where she went.

950
01:14:49,580 --> 01:14:53,600
So we'll go to Peter Robbins.

951
01:15:05,780 --> 01:15:13,160
Thank you for allowing me a few minutes to speak. I was here back in the end of your address and the in person.

952
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:24,900
Oh, I'm sorry. Peter Robbins, 138 South Vandries and Eagle. I was here at the end of November and that meeting was filled with a lot of real ugly talk about the upcoming runoff election.

953
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:32,580
and I fear my message was completely lost in all of that nastiness, so I'm back here just

954
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:43,240
to ask if you can help with old valley road between Linda, Avenue, and Baxter Avenue. The

955
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:48,780
parking on that road is getting to be atrocious and it's good. I don't know if that's relevant

956
01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:50,940
to this particular item now.

957
01:15:51,460 --> 01:15:53,840
What? I'm sorry, called me up.

958
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:54,520
Yeah.

959
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,180
I did call you up, but it was for this.

960
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:57,600
I'm sorry.

961
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,360
Mr. Mayor, I think you probably signed up for the wrong.

962
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,260
Yeah.

963
01:16:02,340 --> 01:16:04,920
You might have just hit the wrong one.

964
01:16:05,180 --> 01:16:05,480
Okay.

965
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,160
Which one do you want?

966
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,120
So we can get the right one.

967
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:12,220
The public comment at the end?

968
01:16:12,380 --> 01:16:13,140
Is that we're waiting on?

969
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:13,540
Yeah.

970
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Okay.

971
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:14,660
Yeah.

972
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:15,560
That'll be at the end.

973
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,260
so if you can hang around for, I know, yeah, thanks, though.

974
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:21,340
It's okay.

975
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:23,200
Oh, no, we want to hear from you.

976
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,180
Yeah, we have to get you a few statements out to see

977
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:29,300
where you're going with it, and realize that we'll move

978
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:30,320
through that.

979
01:16:32,140 --> 01:16:33,180
Frank, Christopher,

980
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,240
okay, thank you.

981
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:41,100
All right, that is all the public comment sign-up sheets,

982
01:16:41,540 --> 01:16:45,120
but come on up and you got your name and number,

983
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:54,010
name and address, name and number for the record, and good evening Mayor and members of the council.

984
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:56,510
I'm not sure I'm going to give you my phone number, but I'll give you my name and address.

985
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:57,710
I have your phone number.

986
01:16:58,370 --> 01:16:58,690
Good question.

987
01:16:58,810 --> 01:16:59,290
Most people do.

988
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:59,850
It's public.

989
01:17:01,310 --> 01:17:08,750
Dave Yorgeson address, 13, 1965 was Chindon, sweet to a one, boy, see.

990
01:17:09,690 --> 01:17:13,270
A couple things, first of all, thank you for allowing us to be with your staff and make these

991
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:14,170
clarification changes.

992
01:17:14,170 --> 01:17:18,810
really kind of a big deal actually. And as mentioned by staff, there's already some moving forward.

993
01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:23,570
I have two that are not on that yet to be paid, but soon to be paid list, they're on your

994
01:17:23,570 --> 01:17:30,630
list, exhibit be one of which might be on the next month or so. And so we just want to say,

995
01:17:30,650 --> 01:17:34,770
I'll say thank you for having me make those changes with clarifications and looking forward to

996
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:39,150
that wavered agreements, looking to the attorney there. As soon as that agreement is grafted,

997
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:43,890
looking forward to signing it moving forward to help with the others, we'll be signing as

998
01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:45,710
So that was just my statement.

999
01:17:45,810 --> 01:17:46,970
I reckon there's a lot of people here.

1000
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:48,750
I'm not going to be long in my testimony.

1001
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:50,950
Just granting that thank you tonight.

1002
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:51,750
Instead of any questions.

1003
01:17:52,250 --> 01:17:52,970
All right.

1004
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:53,490
Thank you Dave.

1005
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:54,830
Is there any questions for Dave?

1006
01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:55,690
Comments.

1007
01:17:56,430 --> 01:17:56,490
All right.

1008
01:17:56,590 --> 01:17:57,130
Thank you.

1009
01:17:57,230 --> 01:17:57,430
Welcome.

1010
01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:57,910
Thanks again.

1011
01:17:58,130 --> 01:17:58,870
Thank you very much.

1012
01:18:00,230 --> 01:18:01,710
Now, nobody else has signed up.

1013
01:18:01,750 --> 01:18:02,790
It's your welcome to come up.

1014
01:18:02,990 --> 01:18:05,350
If you would like to speak on this item.

1015
01:18:05,810 --> 01:18:07,890
You're welcome to come to the podium and.

1016
01:18:09,010 --> 01:18:09,630
Give her testimony.

1017
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:12,500
All right.

1018
01:18:13,020 --> 01:18:13,820
Seeing none.

1019
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,140
I'm going to go to close the public testimony.

1020
01:18:18,180 --> 01:18:23,320
Is there any other comments from staff or our engineer or our director that we'll like

1021
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,400
to be done prior to bringing you back to Council?

1022
01:18:30,340 --> 01:18:31,020
Okay, thank you.

1023
01:18:31,060 --> 01:18:34,940
I'm going to close the public hearing at this point and bring it back to Council for discussion

1024
01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:35,980
consideration.

1025
01:18:41,570 --> 01:18:47,610
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion then to approve item 9A1 resolution

1026
01:18:47,610 --> 01:18:54,530
Number 24-03 new capitalization fee to replace storage and trunk line fees and water construction

1027
01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:59,810
equivalency fees in accordance with the city of Eagle water system capitalization fee study

1028
01:19:00,770 --> 01:19:03,610
Thank you have the motion to have a second second

1029
01:19:03,610 --> 01:19:05,730
a roll call please

1030
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:07,870
I

1031
01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:16,970
Thank you we're going to move on to item B now, which is a

1032
01:19:17,870 --> 01:19:29,330
It's CU-11-21 mod and PPU-D08-21 plan unit development modification, little feather, Eagle LLC, and Mike Geordia.

1033
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:30,370
Thank you.

1034
01:19:30,490 --> 01:19:33,710
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Mike Williams, playing Zone and staff for the record.

1035
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:38,910
We received email this afternoon approximately 3-12.

1036
01:19:38,910 --> 01:19:48,050
The applicants representative requested decided to be continued to the July 23rd public hearing.

1037
01:19:50,940 --> 01:19:54,900
Okay, the applicant is asked for a particular situation to July 23rd.

1038
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,880
Is there a council member willing to make a motion for that?

1039
01:19:58,220 --> 01:19:59,880
Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion too.

1040
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,880
Continued item 9b, CU-11-21-MOD, PPUD-08-21-MOD, the planning and development modification, for little feather eagle, to the July 23rd, public hearing.

1041
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,460
Thank you. Have a motion to have a second.

1042
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:21,720
Thank you.

1043
01:20:22,540 --> 01:20:23,120
Motion passes.

1044
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:41,200
We will move on now to letter C, which is A-06-23-RZ-12-23-CU-12-23-23-PPUD-04-23-PP-08-23.

1045
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,880
annexation, resown condition, we use permit,

1046
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,160
preliminary development, plant, and preliminary

1047
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:55,900
plat for wilderness, river subdivision is the applicant here.

1048
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,340
Mr. Mayor, you could ask,

1049
01:20:58,420 --> 01:21:01,200
ex-parte, I didn't know you were asking for all three ideas.

1050
01:21:01,380 --> 01:21:04,320
Sorry, I did have a resident reach out about the process

1051
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,040
and I indicated that it was before the council

1052
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,580
and for them to come in comment during public comment

1053
01:21:10,580 --> 01:21:13,040
or sent in comments, but I did get a call.

1054
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,020
That's a perfect timing right now to do it right now.

1055
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Okay.

1056
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,700
That's perfect.

1057
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:17,720
Thank you.

1058
01:21:18,180 --> 01:21:22,000
Okay, the applicant is here, and I'm going to open the public hearing

1059
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:23,820
and give you the floor.

1060
01:21:24,460 --> 01:21:25,100
Thank you.

1061
01:21:25,660 --> 01:21:26,640
Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

1062
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:27,400
Members of Council.

1063
01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:28,920
My name is Stephanie Hopkins.

1064
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,200
I work for CAM Engineering.

1065
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,960
Our address is 575, Mark Discovery Way in Boise.

1066
01:21:35,500 --> 01:21:36,620
I'm thrilled to be here this evening.

1067
01:21:36,620 --> 01:21:40,300
representing the property owners, Lyndon Toby Williamson.

1068
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,260
We've been working with them on this project for about two years.

1069
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,220
I think it's been.

1070
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:50,300
And they've lived in the Eagle community for much longer than that.

1071
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:55,220
So they've lived here since 1965, which is almost 60 years.

1072
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:57,420
They've been a part of the Eagle community.

1073
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,980
The Williamson family purchased 400 acres to establish their family ranch in Eagle.

1074
01:22:02,980 --> 01:22:06,260
at the time Eagle's population was only 400 people.

1075
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:08,940
The current property owner has got married at Rembrandt,

1076
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,300
which was about his church at the time.

1077
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:13,500
It's now a cute little coffee shop with restaurant.

1078
01:22:14,620 --> 01:22:16,300
They used to push cattle across the bridge,

1079
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,980
and would write their horses down to Orville Jackson's

1080
01:22:18,980 --> 01:22:20,280
or the Eagle Grill in town.

1081
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:23,260
Things have obviously changed quite dramatically

1082
01:22:23,260 --> 01:22:26,460
since they first established their home

1083
01:22:26,460 --> 01:22:27,660
within the island.

1084
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:32,280
And since they branched the property throughout the years,

1085
01:22:32,820 --> 01:22:43,280
I'm noting all of this just to acknowledge that they've been a part of the Eagle community and they really want to see this property developed in something that they can be proud of and the Eagle community can be proud of as well.

1086
01:22:45,420 --> 01:22:55,960
They've always taken pride in their property and we hope to help them develop it into a community that will the last little piece of community that will be a nice compliment to existing development.

1087
01:22:56,620 --> 01:23:08,820
So the property we're discussing this evening was contemplated for future development, and a portion of it was included with the comprehensive plan map amendment that was completed for the Williamson River Ranch subdivision in 2016.

1088
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:16,120
That application contemplated the comprehensive plan map amendment, which was to basically take it out of the Boise area of impact and place into Eagles.

1089
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:21,760
Pulumary Platt for the residential subdivision that's to the north and a Planned Unit

1090
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,000
Development as well as annexation and zoning with a development agreement for the Williams

1091
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,160
and River Ranch subdivision.

1092
01:23:27,180 --> 01:23:32,260
For this evening, we're going to be discussing the wilderness to River Sub, but we're requesting

1093
01:23:32,260 --> 01:23:37,140
a Planned Unit Development which is comprised of annexation and rezoning to the R2 District,

1094
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:42,260
which is very similar to adjacent subdivisions with a development agreement, a preliminary

1095
01:23:42,260 --> 01:23:45,880
development plan and preliminary plot for a single family development.

1096
01:23:46,820 --> 01:23:50,040
We're going to agreement with the staff report and the Associated Conditions for Proofable

1097
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:55,500
from Planning staff as well as other environmental reviewing agencies and reviewers like

1098
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:56,220
the Fire Department.

1099
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,800
We, without all, continue on with our presentation.

1100
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:05,520
So there were quite a few items that were discussed in our June planning and zoning commission

1101
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:06,000
meeting.

1102
01:24:06,860 --> 01:24:11,540
The primary concern that was voiced by neighbors and the major takeaway that we had was

1103
01:24:11,540 --> 01:24:16,680
considering about the emergency access point or the secondary point of access for emergency vehicles

1104
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,400
on the eastern portion of the development. So we've worked with the fire department and the

1105
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:27,780
item materials and construction property to the east pretty comprehensively within the last several

1106
01:24:27,780 --> 01:24:34,240
weeks since our meeting and have made headway so I'll cover that in more detail later.

1107
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:39,020
I just wanted to note that we've made some headway there.

1108
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,560
So the property is located, it's outlined in orange here.

1109
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,400
It's one of a few undeveloped properties in this area in the city of Eagle.

1110
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:56,720
So this area and the IMC property is really the only property that hasn't been developed with any kind of residential or commercial development at this point.

1111
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,000
located south of the Williamson River Ranch subdivision, which is

1112
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:08,700
Our two, with the development agreement, Resent, Nestle Island, and Island Woods are all zoned, our two, with development agreement and planning and developments.

1113
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:27,900
It's east of Resent and Island Woods, as you can see, north of the south channel, the Boise River, and the Boise Voicewater Treatment Plant, which is zoned iTunes and Industrial District, and west of property owned by Old Castle MMG, which is the IMC property that it will be referencing for our presentation.

1114
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:37,480
So the comprehensive plan for this area indicates that it will be a neighborhood use, which

1115
01:25:37,480 --> 01:25:43,580
is two, or it's two to four units per acre, where below that density at 1.4, doing

1116
01:25:43,580 --> 01:25:47,900
use per acre, that does exclude the floodway, but you can see it indicated on the south part

1117
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:52,320
of the property. As mentioned, this property was included in the comprehensive plan map amendment

1118
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,500
that was approved for the Williamson River Ranch subdivision. Previously, this property had

1119
01:25:56,500 --> 01:25:58,420
and including Boise's comprehensive plan.

1120
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,340
And what have been allowed to develop with much higher density

1121
01:26:01,340 --> 01:26:03,720
residential uses than we're proposing this evening?

1122
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,920
Person of the Development does fall

1123
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,900
within the floodway designation indicated here,

1124
01:26:08,900 --> 01:26:12,440
and there is an overlay for preservation,

1125
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,860
I think, of open space, where applicable.

1126
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:19,840
So there is a section in the eastern portion

1127
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,960
of the development indicated here

1128
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,580
that is the Eagle Island special use area.

1129
01:26:24,580 --> 01:26:33,180
It's the head of Eagle Island and I think that it was placed here primarily because it's a parcel line and it just was kind of where it fell.

1130
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:40,620
But our interpretation of the comprehensive plan and how we've applied it with this development is that we are preserving open space.

1131
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:51,480
We're applicable in really clustering residential lots in a way that helps to capitalize on the natural amenities available to this property and really make it a premier project.

1132
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:57,960
So approximately 9.65 acres are located with a head of Eagle Island,

1133
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,160
Future Land use map area that we're just talking about.

1134
01:27:01,340 --> 01:27:09,280
We have nine buildable lots in a cul-de-sac with in that portion and within about 4.5 acres of that area.

1135
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,180
So we are leaving five acres open.

1136
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:17,180
We've designated a group designed to perform a plan to preserve over 20 acres of the site to preserve the Repairion.

1137
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:23,240
areas, the wildlife habitat, and floodway, and other areas of the plant, fulfilling the intent

1138
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:28,100
of the eagle island land use. I'll talk about that a little bit more later, but our development

1139
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:32,700
does support several comprehensive plan goals outlined by the city, specifically by providing

1140
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:38,080
a subdivision that can promote recreation and open space and providing housing opportunities in

1141
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,660
an area that has been forecasted for growth within the density range. So we're actually less

1142
01:27:43,660 --> 01:27:47,440
in the density range that the city is forecasted at this point and we think that that's consistent

1143
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:49,840
with what's been approved in the area.

1144
01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:56,200
So so our primary plot, we designed this to be consistent with Williamson River Ranch, which

1145
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:57,380
is located to the north.

1146
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:04,360
Our development area is about 88 acres, total number of lots is 119, 100 and eight of those

1147
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,540
are buildable lots, one is the existing residents.

1148
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:12,760
So the existing residents is proposed to be retained and it's going to be on about four and

1149
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,560
half acres and our other lots will range in size.

1150
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,940
They'll be from about 10,000 square feet up to 12,000 or 31,000 square feet.

1151
01:28:22,980 --> 01:28:30,920
Our average lot size excluding the existing home is 12,714 square feet.

1152
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:34,860
So we will be connecting to existing substrates provided

1153
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:39,540
within the Williamson River Ranch subdivision, which connect to island woods,

1154
01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:40,640
and goes to Eagle Road.

1155
01:28:41,660 --> 01:28:44,120
Isla Del Rio is the main point of access.

1156
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,300
So we're connecting to, we'll also be connecting to Logo

1157
01:28:47,300 --> 01:28:48,940
and Reparian Way.

1158
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:52,040
As mentioned, we've been working with the Fire Department

1159
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,840
and IMC on an emergency access that'll come

1160
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,300
from the east over here.

1161
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,400
So we've provided ample open space with this development.

1162
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,100
And that's largely in part because of some of the sensitive areas

1163
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:11,620
that are in this area, because of this,

1164
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:16,340
as River South Channel, as well as the floodway.

1165
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,060
And it was also a great opportunity

1166
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:19,320
to be able to class your development,

1167
01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:22,180
North, and make it more consistent with what's kind

1168
01:29:22,180 --> 01:29:23,080
of already been developed.

1169
01:29:24,060 --> 01:29:27,020
We have 46 acres of open space,

1170
01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:29,320
which is about 52% of the site.

1171
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,320
31% of that, or 16 acres, is considered

1172
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,700
to be active open space.

1173
01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:40,080
City code only requires 15% or 6.89 acres to be provided.

1174
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:53,380
And again, this is kind of how we've tried to fulfill the eagle island land use by preserving open space and really giving really providing a community that focuses on open space and recreation and active open space.

1175
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:59,500
We will be retaining an historic silo as located near the entrance of the subdivision.

1176
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:08,860
It's around a hundred years old, has been used for many years, and the Williamson's really wanted to preserve it to kind of keep some of the heritage of the site.

1177
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:16,820
Here, we'll be including some historic signage as well as just some information about the significance of the silo.

1178
01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:27,260
We will have two water features, a central feature ponds that you can see homes are located along, so that'll provide some nice waterfront properties for folks.

1179
01:30:27,260 --> 01:30:31,420
And we'll provide a nice water feature

1180
01:30:31,420 --> 01:30:32,640
amenity for feature residents.

1181
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,640
We also have a clubhouse with pool.

1182
01:30:34,900 --> 01:30:38,540
It'll be a modern style clubhouse with nice amenities.

1183
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:41,320
This will have its own separate HOA.

1184
01:30:41,380 --> 01:30:43,540
It'll be separate from the Williamson River Ranch subdivision.

1185
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:51,760
And we'll establish its own set of CCNars and fees associated with maintenance of open spaces.

1186
01:30:57,270 --> 01:31:01,830
So we met with the Parks Pathways and Recreation Committee in May of this year.

1187
01:31:01,830 --> 01:31:03,430
and receive the recommendation of approval.

1188
01:31:04,030 --> 01:31:05,290
We're proposing sidewalks,

1189
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:07,510
micro pathways, and larger pathways throughout the development.

1190
01:31:08,110 --> 01:31:08,870
They did have some changes.

1191
01:31:09,010 --> 01:31:10,990
They wanted us to make to our pathways plan,

1192
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:14,830
which we're amenable to, and we will make before we receive approval tonight,

1193
01:31:14,990 --> 01:31:17,310
before we make a final plot.

1194
01:31:17,310 --> 01:31:18,510
It's a middle to the city.

1195
01:31:18,750 --> 01:31:20,950
We will be keeping area within the floodway

1196
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:24,010
as a neat, eight foot natural surface pathway.

1197
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:27,890
Outside of that, the cities request that we put a ten foot

1198
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:31,230
as fault pathway, which we will include an eight foot

1199
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:39,970
concrete pathway from the subdivision itself to the 10-foot asphalt pathway, and then a 14-foot concrete pathway to the east.

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01:31:40,730 --> 01:31:51,610
In the planning and zoning commission meeting, we did discuss and has been conditioned that we lose a lot within the eastern portion of the development to include 50 feet of right away for

1201
01:31:51,610 --> 01:31:56,830
extension of a potential roadway for what might be the three cities crossing in the future and we're

1202
01:31:56,830 --> 01:32:02,070
amenable to making that change. So I don't know the 14-foot concrete pathway, the initial

1203
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:07,970
intention behind that was that it would provide a passageway for emergency vehicles and would

1204
01:32:07,970 --> 01:32:13,650
be within 20-foot easements. So with the procurement of a 50-foot right away, I think that that would

1205
01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:20,910
probably suffice for emergency access. The 14-foot concrete pathway likely stay, it'll just kind of

1206
01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:23,810
need to be situated near that right away.

1207
01:32:27,070 --> 01:32:30,390
So this is a letter that was included within the packet for planning and zoning commission.

1208
01:32:30,610 --> 01:32:34,270
It's from Deputy Chief Fire Marshall Scott Buck.

1209
01:32:34,630 --> 01:32:40,250
He included specific conditions that were required for the wilderness subdivision specifically.

1210
01:32:41,470 --> 01:32:46,510
So with the Lames and Rivers subdivision, they were under the agreement that they had an emergency

1211
01:32:46,510 --> 01:32:51,430
access that actually crosses through this portion of the property through IMC property

1212
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:57,470
to stay highway 44. They never actually recorded an easement with that agreement for that easement.

1213
01:32:57,750 --> 01:33:01,190
It does, the easement exists, but there was never an agreement that was actually recorded.

1214
01:33:01,890 --> 01:33:05,850
And so the fire department is now saying that they, before they will prove this project,

1215
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:11,490
that agreement needs to be recorded, and I am C, and the developer need to agree to the terms

1216
01:33:11,490 --> 01:33:15,810
within that agreement. We've been working with I am C on that, and they're amenable to

1217
01:33:15,810 --> 01:33:21,310
for curing that with us, so we're working in the fire department to make sure that the

1218
01:33:21,310 --> 01:33:26,050
verbiage matches what they'd like to see, and we'll make sure that it's drafted up and

1219
01:33:26,050 --> 01:33:31,210
we'll work with with the different entities to make sure that it covers all the bases.

1220
01:33:34,530 --> 01:33:41,810
So let's see, this letter was included in the staff report, so Deputy Chief Fire Martial

1221
01:33:41,810 --> 01:33:46,570
but included that the coldestact shall have a collapse of the ballards or an approved equivalent.

1222
01:33:47,010 --> 01:33:55,830
He also included that the owner or HOA of wilderness river river subdivision will be required to maintain the bridge and roadway.

1223
01:33:55,850 --> 01:33:57,790
And make sure this possible for emergency vehicles.

1224
01:33:58,030 --> 01:34:01,690
And that's something that the applicant is amenable to doing.

1225
01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:05,730
So those are both things that we're not required of the Williamson River Ranch subdivision.

1226
01:34:05,770 --> 01:34:10,890
And we'll provide additional assurances to existing residents in this area by actually providing

1227
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:18,330
And emergency access, the secondary emergency access that is usable, has an agreement, and is actually in good condition.

1228
01:34:21,930 --> 01:34:28,770
So there are two easements that exist that provide access from the Williamson property through IMC property, the state highway 44 that we've located.

1229
01:34:29,370 --> 01:34:34,990
The first one is through the staker in person property, which is the old castle or the IMC property.

1230
01:34:34,990 --> 01:34:39,070
It was recorded in 2005, and it grants access.

1231
01:34:39,790 --> 01:34:41,030
This is a depiction of it.

1232
01:34:41,210 --> 01:34:45,050
It's not super clear, but we've been able to trace the legal's

1233
01:34:45,050 --> 01:34:49,150
back through to see that it goes from basically the eastern edge of the

1234
01:34:49,150 --> 01:34:54,050
Williamson's property to through IMC property to stay highway 44.

1235
01:34:55,190 --> 01:34:58,330
The second one is through the Williamson property, which is recorded in

1236
01:34:58,330 --> 01:34:58,630
2007.

1237
01:34:58,990 --> 01:34:59,950
and this is the one that was

1238
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,460
This is primarily referenced within the Williamson River Ranch approval. And this one extends just through the Williamson property, extends from their eastern boundary through the Williamson property.

1239
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:19,020
So we'll be utilizing both of these easements to draft the access easement that's required by the fire department.

1240
01:35:19,020 --> 01:35:19,980
And

1241
01:35:23,530 --> 01:35:26,310
this is a depiction of how those two easements will kind of function.

1242
01:35:26,750 --> 01:35:31,810
So as you can see right now, they actually, the emergency access extends from a stub

1243
01:35:31,810 --> 01:35:36,970
the substrate within Williamson River Ranch along the northern boundary of our subdivision.

1244
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:42,690
If we were to include the right of way on our eastern portion, we would likely just pick it

1245
01:35:42,690 --> 01:35:46,290
up from here and then extend it up to see Highway 44 to the north.

1246
01:35:51,150 --> 01:35:56,650
And this is a letter that we actually provided with the packet initially, but we've

1247
01:35:56,650 --> 01:36:02,750
been coordinating with IMC pretty regularly on this trying to find any recorded agreement that

1248
01:36:02,750 --> 01:36:06,990
may have existed for Lemons in River Ranch and were unable to cover anything, which is

1249
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:12,470
why we're planning on drafting a new one. But this is a letter asserting that they are

1250
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:18,890
in agreement and they will continue to provide emergency access to this area specifically the

1251
01:36:18,890 --> 01:36:20,270
in a server project.

1252
01:36:24,340 --> 01:36:26,740
So we're really excited about this project.

1253
01:36:27,380 --> 01:36:30,740
It's a wilderness server has been designed and thought out to complement

1254
01:36:30,740 --> 01:36:33,820
existing development. We think it really works well.

1255
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:36,420
The density is consistent and compatible.

1256
01:36:37,820 --> 01:36:41,560
And it'll be a really high quality development in area that has been contemplated for

1257
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,020
our development in the past. It's tying into existing substrates and

1258
01:36:46,020 --> 01:36:54,800
And traffic is below what ESHD would consider their capacity for a collector roadway, which is Island Woods.

1259
01:36:55,180 --> 01:37:02,720
We're in agreement with the staff report and all the associated conditions of approval, including fire departments requirements and all the other requirements included.

1260
01:37:03,460 --> 01:37:08,020
And we're really excited to keep working with the city on this. So I'll see you in for questions if you have any.

1261
01:37:08,580 --> 01:37:09,500
Thanks very much.

1262
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:10,360
Thank you.

1263
01:37:10,460 --> 01:37:13,900
Stephanie, is there any questions or comments for Stephanie at this point?

1264
01:37:13,900 --> 01:37:21,580
All right, thank you, we'll hear it from you again on the revolutions and Mike, would you like to come up for staff?

1265
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:52,260
Mayor and Council, once again Mike Williams playing his own staff for the record.

1266
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:57,040
Tonight you have a request for you for wilderness river subdivision.

1267
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,860
It's by Toby and Linda Williamson and is represented by Miss Hopkins.

1268
01:38:01,860 --> 01:38:10,080
The request is to develop 119 lot subdivision, 118 billable with 11 common lots located

1269
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:16,300
with an 88 acre site, which is east of Island Wood's Drive on on the southern portion

1270
01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:17,040
of the island.

1271
01:38:18,260 --> 01:38:20,620
There's a vicinity map showing it.

1272
01:38:20,900 --> 01:38:25,320
It consists of approximately four parcels, one of which, and we're going to touch on this

1273
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:29,500
in a minute, is the head of Eagle Island, the remaining portion of it, that's what it's

1274
01:38:29,500 --> 01:38:34,540
made in the competency plan. The remaining portion is designated as neighborhood residential,

1275
01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:43,060
which is 2 to 4 blowing units for acre. Concept plan, showing layout. This hopped this is already

1276
01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:48,180
presented that, and then of course the preliminary plot. What I'm going to do from this point

1277
01:38:48,180 --> 01:38:54,660
is we're going to talk about the plane-zoning recommendation, the staff report, and how we arrive

1278
01:38:54,660 --> 01:38:56,060
were at today.

1279
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:03,740
So the dwelling use for acres being proposed is 1.4 dwelling units per acre.

1280
01:39:04,300 --> 01:39:11,060
That is with the floodway area removed. As we all realize, you cannot develop within the

1281
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:17,080
floodway and based on our comprehensive plan and our code and city code. When we're calculating

1282
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:22,880
density, we actually remove that floodway area. So it does slightly increase the density by

1283
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:28,880
moving to floodway area. Minimalot size is 10,000 square feet, typically in Minimalot size in

1284
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:34,820
our two zoning designation is 17,000. However, with that being said, for all those

1285
01:39:34,820 --> 01:39:40,180
lots are that are below that minimum lot size, they have to provide an offsetting increase

1286
01:39:40,180 --> 01:39:46,480
of open space. The Minimalot widths are all within the, in conformance with the Eagle City

1287
01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:52,740
code and in minimum street frontages as well. The toll acreage of common area open space

1288
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:59,980
on his site is 45.93 acres, the what was required based on their

1289
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,020
Offset in the increase of open space, there required to have 20.35 acres. And in a percentage of the

1290
01:40:07,020 --> 01:40:16,100
site's common area is 52.1% of the site with 23.1% is what was required based on that

1291
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:23,260
offset in the increase in open space. And in 31% of that open space is active open space and

1292
01:40:23,260 --> 01:40:27,200
based on Eagle City Code, they're required to have 15%.

1293
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:32,280
Issues with special concern. This is what we need to address,

1294
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,380
based on your competency plan, and based on Eagle City Code

1295
01:40:35,380 --> 01:40:37,000
that's associated with this development.

1296
01:40:38,180 --> 01:40:40,500
So starting right off the bat head of Eagle Island,

1297
01:40:40,580 --> 01:40:42,120
the competency plan designation.

1298
01:40:42,820 --> 01:40:45,680
So the tip that they showed you that's just to the east

1299
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,760
and it's a section line is what it is, not a parcel line,

1300
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:49,900
it's actually a section line.

1301
01:40:49,900 --> 01:40:52,680
is actually designated head of Eagle Island.

1302
01:40:53,420 --> 01:40:56,920
Setbacks, special flood hazard area requirements,

1303
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,380
that's your floodway floodplain areas.

1304
01:41:00,700 --> 01:41:03,380
Boister River flood control number 10 access

1305
01:41:03,980 --> 01:41:06,440
for they call them, if they have to,

1306
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,200
if they're in a flood fight,

1307
01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:11,120
they need access to that river flood fight.

1308
01:41:11,380 --> 01:41:12,380
I should say not flight.

1309
01:41:13,420 --> 01:41:16,920
Wetlands, the Parks and Pathway Recreation

1310
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,600
recommended pathway, locations, central services

1311
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,240
for the existing home, Eagle Island area of impact transfer

1312
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,740
agreement between the city of Boisey and the city of Eagle.

1313
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:30,980
When Williamson River Ranch originally came through,

1314
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,620
there was a portion that ran north and south

1315
01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:35,720
through not just this subject property,

1316
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,620
but also through Williamson River Ranch,

1317
01:41:38,180 --> 01:41:40,560
that prior to taking Williamson River Ranch subdivision

1318
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,400
through the process, we had to enter into this agreement

1319
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,360
with Boisey because it was actually in their

1320
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,020
comprehensive plan and that agreement is part of the record.

1321
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,220
And then required secondary emergency access,

1322
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,560
cold-to-sac typical street section,

1323
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,240
and then the historic silos, signage, and seating area,

1324
01:41:57,580 --> 01:41:59,520
and that's since they're proposing it.

1325
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,020
So let's talk about the head of Eagle Island.

1326
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,880
That head of Eagle Island consists of approximately

1327
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,660
9.65 acres, and it's located

1328
01:42:09,660 --> 01:42:12,040
within the very eastern portion of the site.

1329
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:19,300
And what the compound calls for on this, it possesses a recognized function as wildlife habitat,

1330
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,200
floodway, and scenic natural resources.

1331
01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:27,180
I will tell you the Head of Eagle Island where it's shown here, I believe, does not

1332
01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:30,040
continue in any floodway, and if it does, it's minimal.

1333
01:42:30,300 --> 01:42:33,100
Most of it is completely out of the floodplain.

1334
01:42:35,930 --> 01:42:39,630
The development of streets buildings and other covered structures within this area should

1335
01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:40,230
be prohibited.

1336
01:42:40,230 --> 01:42:45,610
The head of Eagle Island designated area within the proposed development does not contain any floodway.

1337
01:42:45,730 --> 01:42:53,530
The applicant is proposing to develop approximately 4.6 acres of the area with a colisthenac and billable lots,

1338
01:42:53,690 --> 01:42:58,670
leaving the remaining 5.05 acres undeveloped except for pathways.

1339
01:42:59,610 --> 01:43:01,310
I typically don't read these.

1340
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:05,710
However, this is important to address the head of Eagle Island.

1341
01:43:05,710 --> 01:43:09,670
There are a few trees located with the area in the possibility of wetlands.

1342
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:14,530
However, the applicant is required to conduct a wetland delineation within the site to address

1343
01:43:14,530 --> 01:43:17,270
any requirements of the United States Corps of Engineers,

1344
01:43:17,870 --> 01:43:21,130
associate with any wetlands that they may need to mitigate for,

1345
01:43:21,310 --> 01:43:25,430
and to address the intended ahead of Eagle Island for preservation of the area.

1346
01:43:25,770 --> 01:43:29,690
The applicant is preserving approximately 20.37 acres,

1347
01:43:29,690 --> 01:43:36,710
or 23% of the site of contiguous common area to preserve the riparian forest while life

1348
01:43:36,710 --> 01:43:41,250
habitat and floodway this located Jason to the south channel of the Boise River.

1349
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:46,390
So the entire area that's adjacent to that channel is proposed to be a common lot.

1350
01:43:47,450 --> 01:43:54,630
Setbacks, Eagle City Code 8-2-4 requires 30 feet on the front, 30 feet on the rear, 10 feet

1351
01:43:54,630 --> 01:44:00,390
besides additional five feet for a second story, maximum lock coverage of 40 percent.

1352
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:05,890
The applicant had requested and staff supported it as well as your plan zoning commission

1353
01:44:05,890 --> 01:44:12,570
recommended it as well to allow for a 20 foot living area setback, 31 feet for the garage.

1354
01:44:12,690 --> 01:44:17,470
That was a staff insert based on the fact we have to ensure that there's adequate room

1355
01:44:17,470 --> 01:44:22,410
between the front of the garage and the back of the sidewalk, 20 feet of rear setback and

1356
01:44:22,410 --> 01:44:27,150
And seven and a half feet on the sides with that additional five feet for second story

1357
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:29,030
with the street side of 15 feet.

1358
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:32,650
And then if they're putting a garage on the street side, because if you're address from

1359
01:44:32,650 --> 01:44:37,070
the front you're on a corner lot, that garage still has to be 31 feet, so you have

1360
01:44:37,070 --> 01:44:40,850
adequate room to park between the front of the garage and the back that side walk.

1361
01:44:42,370 --> 01:44:47,030
Yes, why the recommendation came through it 20 feet and why these setbacks came through

1362
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:51,330
but the way they are, they match weems and river ranches setbacks.

1363
01:44:52,770 --> 01:44:54,650
Special flood hazard area requirements.

1364
01:44:57,340 --> 01:44:59,600
Simple one for me. I'm the floodplain administrator.

1365
01:45:00,050 --> 01:45:15,010
We inserted what you typically see associated with your area, special flood hazards. So number right off the bat on 3.6 on a condition of development. If you choose to approve this, we placed that development agreement. Number 1, dress the wetlands.

1366
01:45:16,590 --> 01:45:26,150
3.12, owner shall provide an approved land use change, site development application from Boise River, flood control district, number 10, prior to the middle of a final plat.

1367
01:45:26,150 --> 01:45:46,290
The flood control district has their own application process and what they do is they look at these land use applications that comes through adjacent to the river and at that time if they feel if there's a need for access to that river that's part of that application process and they'll address it at that time.

1368
01:45:47,660 --> 01:45:54,000
And in owner shell can play with all applicable provisions of Title 10 that your flood control section of your code.

1369
01:45:54,940 --> 01:46:02,880
And all building shall be set back and minimum 100 feet from the floodway line has identified on the flood insurance rate map associated with the site.

1370
01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:13,060
That is in as a condition of development, however, based on the location of the lots and a relationship of that large common lot that's adjacent to the South Channel.

1371
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:20,620
most, I would say majority of the lots are already more than 100 feet from that floodway line.

1372
01:46:22,540 --> 01:46:27,800
Voice of River, flood control district number 10, I touched on this and it's, you find this

1373
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:34,340
under Eagle City Code Section 10-1-8-7, that's the title 10, that's your flood control section

1374
01:46:34,340 --> 01:46:40,660
with floodplain and floodway standards and states that for all subdivisions along the Voice of River

1375
01:46:40,660 --> 01:46:44,780
Dry Creek, prior to approval, the final plant rent approval from flood control district

1376
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:49,020
is required to protect access to the river for maintenance that goes back to that condition

1377
01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:50,760
of development at 3.12.

1378
01:46:51,580 --> 01:46:58,220
So the flood control district concerns if this is approved will be addressed within the

1379
01:46:58,220 --> 01:46:58,940
development agreement.

1380
01:47:00,140 --> 01:47:04,460
Wetlands, owner shop provider reporter analysis of any proposed changes to wetlands located

1381
01:47:04,460 --> 01:47:10,640
under property, they are required to go through a delineation, and at that time they're

1382
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:17,740
be a determination. It may change the layout slightly because they will either have to avoid

1383
01:47:17,740 --> 01:47:23,480
those wetlands or mitigate for them. Parks and Pathway Recreation Commission, Pathway

1384
01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:31,080
Recommendations. We took this before the Parks and Pathway Recreation Commission on

1385
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:37,760
May 10th. They made the recommendations based on what staff presented and they also asked

1386
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:45,420
for an additional condition be added to address the possibility for a blanket easement across

1387
01:47:45,420 --> 01:47:52,260
the common lot that's adjacent to the South Channel in the event that there's ever the

1388
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:55,820
opportunity to construct a pedestrian bridge across that channel.

1389
01:47:56,220 --> 01:48:00,680
I'm not going to go into those great detail, but they're in agreement with everything the

1390
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,580
Parks and Pathway Recreation Commission recommended.

1391
01:48:04,860 --> 01:48:06,880
Existing home and central services,

1392
01:48:09,140 --> 01:48:11,540
the recommendation that went to planning zoning was that

1393
01:48:11,540 --> 01:48:15,580
donor shall be required to connect the existing residents to central water and sewer

1394
01:48:15,580 --> 01:48:18,860
prior to city clerk signing the final plan for the associated phase.

1395
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:20,420
This is typical.

1396
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:27,160
During the public hearing process, the applicant requested this be way to state that the existing

1397
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:32,180
residents shall be permitted to utilize the existing septic and well until the system fails

1398
01:48:32,180 --> 01:48:39,300
upon system failure or change in property ownership the owner shall be required to

1399
01:48:39,300 --> 01:48:43,460
bend into potable well and septic system and provide documentation from the

1400
01:48:43,460 --> 01:48:47,860
subdivision contractor that the potable well and septic system were properly

1401
01:48:47,860 --> 01:48:53,060
abandoned. This is the recommendation that came from the planning zoning

1402
01:48:53,060 --> 01:48:58,180
commission. It is not unusual. I've seen these before. We just need to ensure that

1403
01:48:58,180 --> 01:49:02,160
if it ever sells or something fails

1404
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,980
that they're required to connect at that time.

1405
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,080
Ilyen, area of impact transfer agreement

1406
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:10,920
between the City of Eagle and City of Boise.

1407
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:14,520
In condition of development 3.4,

1408
01:49:14,660 --> 01:49:19,040
there's one major factor, whether there's a couple of them,

1409
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,900
that Boise wanted to ensure number one was density,

1410
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:23,820
which is below their density.

1411
01:49:24,540 --> 01:49:27,220
Number two was they have a wastewater treatment plant

1412
01:49:27,220 --> 01:49:29,600
located in proximity to this site.

1413
01:49:30,440 --> 01:49:38,880
So under 3.4F and 3.4 in the conditions development is the language that has to be placed within

1414
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:45,880
your CC&Rs and that language is an express acknowledgement that the property owners are

1415
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:51,560
aware of the existence of the Boise water treatment plant located across the South

1416
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:56,420
channel, the Boise River, and wave the right to file complaints regarding noters, noise,

1417
01:49:56,540 --> 01:49:59,820
or other normal operations associated with the wastewater treatment.

1418
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:29,980
The secondary emergency access, owner shall comply with the requirements of legal fire department and city legal parks, pathways and recreation, commission, recommendations, and recommendations.

1419
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:36,160
the secondary emergency access prior to city parks signing the final

1420
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:37,100
plan.

1421
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,380
Polesac Street section, the only issue with the Colisex Street section is

1422
01:50:45,380 --> 01:50:47,140
there showing a 30 foot island.

1423
01:50:48,540 --> 01:50:51,000
I have written around in fire apparatus.

1424
01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:55,940
Because at one time we had narrow Colisex with these big beautiful

1425
01:50:55,940 --> 01:50:59,940
islands, and we found out that you can't get fire apparatus around

1426
01:50:59,940 --> 01:51:00,440
them.

1427
01:51:00,440 --> 01:51:07,360
So, at that time, we amended the code, require 50 foot radius, which they have.

1428
01:51:07,480 --> 01:51:13,160
The only problem was, is they had a 15 foot radius landscape island, which doesn't give them

1429
01:51:14,020 --> 01:51:17,940
the ability to turn a fire apparatus around these colonists.

1430
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:24,280
So, what this condition is calling for is to reduce that radius to 10 feet, and that's what's required by code.

1431
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:31,560
And in historic silo signage and seeding area, you'll look at this and they're proposing to save the silo.

1432
01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:38,340
They want to do a seeding area with the monument I believe, acknowledging the Williamson River Ranch and a little bit of the history.

1433
01:51:39,020 --> 01:51:46,020
And even though they're proposing it, we want to ensure if this were to be approved that that happens and is part of the design review process.

1434
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:53,140
So it was recommended that the owner shall retain and enhance his historic silo to include signage describing his significance

1435
01:51:53,140 --> 01:51:57,580
And so the structure to the heritage, the heritage of the property in the area, the common

1436
01:51:57,580 --> 01:52:02,180
lot, containing the historic silo and silo, and siloing, including the seeding areas,

1437
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:06,200
identified on the concept plan, Exhibit C, and that will be part of the development

1438
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:07,480
agreement approved.

1439
01:52:07,860 --> 01:52:12,520
And the retention has submitted the historic siloing, inclusive of the siloing, and seeding

1440
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:15,880
areas shall be completed prior to seeding, or exciting in the flat.

1441
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:21,350
Do the planning zoning commission on a three-to-one vote?

1442
01:52:21,930 --> 01:52:24,530
Did recommend approval of this?

1443
01:52:25,250 --> 01:52:30,850
Chairman Wright was not present in Commissioner members Smith voted against the proposal

1444
01:52:30,850 --> 01:52:33,030
and that staff had stand for questions.

1445
01:52:34,070 --> 01:52:36,570
All right, you comments or questions for Mike at this time?

1446
01:52:37,890 --> 01:52:38,530
Mr. Mayor?

1447
01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:41,370
Mike, a couple questions for you.

1448
01:52:41,630 --> 01:52:46,250
Can you clarify for me what the current zoning is that states on the property right now

1449
01:52:46,250 --> 01:52:48,390
for RP for the A to County designation?

1450
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:52,590
I'm sorry, I had a side noise here, can you?

1451
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:56,810
I'm so sorry, the current zoning that's on the property right now,

1452
01:52:57,050 --> 01:53:00,850
as it is through A to County designation, rural preservation,

1453
01:53:01,030 --> 01:53:02,610
what zoning does that currently have,

1454
01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:03,810
should they stay within A to County?

1455
01:53:04,490 --> 01:53:06,270
It would remain the rural preservation.

1456
01:53:06,770 --> 01:53:07,810
Okay, that's what I just want to clarify on that.

1457
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:11,050
And then also too, can you tell me why the one vote

1458
01:53:11,050 --> 01:53:14,030
against from design review, what kind of notes

1459
01:53:14,030 --> 01:53:17,290
for made, is there any indication that you have for that

1460
01:53:17,290 --> 01:53:18,810
as to why that one vote descended?

1461
01:53:19,210 --> 01:53:20,310
Hey, Mr. Mayor and Council Member,

1462
01:53:20,410 --> 01:53:23,290
again, Mr. Mayor, apologize for not going through you this.

1463
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:25,370
Answer the question on the first one.

1464
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:26,630
I can handle it.

1465
01:53:26,910 --> 01:53:28,090
Council Member, again, Mr. Mayor,

1466
01:53:28,410 --> 01:53:32,610
he was concerned about the access for Island Woods capacity

1467
01:53:32,610 --> 01:53:36,330
and also the secondary access for emergency vehicles.

1468
01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:37,710
Okay, thank you, Mike.

1469
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:40,900
You thoughts or comments?

1470
01:53:42,740 --> 01:53:50,000
Mr. Mayor Mike, on the island would drive, that goes to the island woods, do we know

1471
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:55,800
if that HOA is responsible for the maintenance of island would drive on the paper section?

1472
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,100
Or is that going to be ITD maintaining that?

1473
01:53:59,540 --> 01:54:03,200
Mr. Mayor, Council member Kwame, it is my understanding.

1474
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,120
I know I've been here a lot of years, but I was not here for island woods.

1475
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:14,200
It was my understanding when Island Woods was proposed, they proposed it with pavers, and part

1476
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:21,620
of that approval was that the homeowners association was required to be responsible for the

1477
01:54:21,620 --> 01:54:24,720
maintenance of those pavers in perpetuity.

1478
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:34,040
What I would like to question or know is if this gets approved, then that's going to add

1479
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:40,780
the traffic load on those pavers is a developer willing to contribute to maintenance for their

1480
01:54:41,980 --> 01:54:48,900
added load on those on the pavers for future maintenance. Because I see that that was a real

1481
01:54:48,900 --> 01:54:54,060
short coming of the city of Eagle when dealing with two rivers drive the shores in May,

1482
01:54:54,060 --> 01:54:59,580
branch. We've doubled the traffic on that two rivers drive.

1483
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:09,920
An island would drive because of those additional neighborhoods, but the two rivers H.O.A. is solely responsible for the maintenance, which I see it as unfair.

1484
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:16,940
I think it ought to be shared once development starts participating in the traffic load on those roads on those papers.

1485
01:55:16,940 --> 01:55:24,280
and Mr. Mayor Councilman and Rukwami in the perfect world, and I would love if this

1486
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:28,520
we're approved, not saying I love if it's approved, but if this were to be approved,

1487
01:55:29,940 --> 01:55:34,040
I think it would be incumbent upon all the homeowners associations down there to work

1488
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:38,680
together to come together with some kind of maintenance agreement that all of them, not

1489
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:43,660
just island woods, rivers and, Williamson River Ranch, as well as wilderness river,

1490
01:55:43,660 --> 01:55:47,820
Sure and the expense of maintaining those pavers, they're all four more puttin'

1491
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,940
All right, he is, everybody, I know you have your opinions, but

1492
01:55:52,940 --> 01:55:57,700
Curricy, please, I'm gonna continue to make sure we please be curious to

1493
01:55:57,700 --> 01:56:03,680
All four more puttin' major impacts on the pavers, with that being said,

1494
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:07,760
I mean, I'm gonna race to legal here and I know Victor's on the phone,

1495
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:14,920
There may be a nexus, that if this were to be approved, part of that approval, they would

1496
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:21,800
be required to bring those back up to where they need to be, because as we all know,

1497
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:23,820
Alan Woods has been there for quite some time.

1498
01:56:24,020 --> 01:56:28,460
I will once drive, and I'm sure it hasn't been chipped sealed in all these years.

1499
01:56:28,900 --> 01:56:32,720
I've driven it myself, and you can tell by the chipped ceiling that's taken place.

1500
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:43,940
They've raised most of the roadway with the exception of the pavers, so it's almost like and a de facto speed bumps going through there.

1501
01:56:47,420 --> 01:56:49,660
Yeah, the comments or questions at this time.

1502
01:56:51,850 --> 01:56:54,970
All right, we're going to open up the public testimony portion.

1503
01:56:57,060 --> 01:57:04,540
And if I can't reach your name, I apologize and I'll just butcher it and you can correct me, but I'll try to read them all appropriately.

1504
01:57:04,540 --> 01:57:05,240
Okay,

1505
01:57:24,780 --> 01:57:29,260
and also remind everybody, if you did not sign up at the end of the list, you want

1506
01:57:29,260 --> 01:57:30,100
to come up and talk.

1507
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:30,980
You're welcome to do that.

1508
01:57:31,300 --> 01:57:33,840
Just state your name and address for the record at that point.

1509
01:57:34,260 --> 01:57:35,340
Okay, Tom Murray.

1510
01:57:48,260 --> 01:57:49,880
Mr. Mayor, council members.

1511
01:57:50,020 --> 01:57:50,520
Thank you.

1512
01:57:50,580 --> 01:57:52,140
Appreciate being able to speak tonight.

1513
01:57:52,660 --> 01:57:53,820
My name is Tom Murray.

1514
01:57:53,860 --> 01:57:55,580
I live in Williamson River Ranch.

1515
01:57:56,660 --> 01:57:59,440
At 1735 South Reparian Way.

1516
01:58:00,620 --> 01:58:01,980
The Williamson River Ranch.

1517
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:06,300
There's a number of residents that have prepared a letter that should have been, I think,

1518
01:58:06,300 --> 01:58:10,460
delivered to you or it will be this evening and I'm speaking in support of that letter

1519
01:58:10,460 --> 01:58:15,840
and I'm going to speak to pieces of that letter now that specifically concerned me.

1520
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:20,640
I don't want you to continue with the letter but then you can put the timer off but we did not

1521
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:27,320
receive those packets until yesterday and was going to have attorneys speak against that behalf.

1522
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:35,720
Thank you. I can, or Mike, can do it either. Well, either way but it's too late to submit the

1523
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:41,060
letter, but you can use your three minutes and read it into the record. Absolutely. That's

1524
01:58:41,060 --> 01:58:45,260
why I stopped the clock. You can start over with the clock and then you can read your

1525
01:58:45,260 --> 01:58:49,900
letter completely. If you can get it through the three minutes, if not somebody can take over

1526
01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:52,500
for you. If

1527
01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:03,100
I may intervene, you can also have somebody see your three minutes to finish your

1528
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:07,420
Thank you, Mitch.

1529
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:09,500
Do I need to reintroduce?

1530
01:59:09,820 --> 01:59:09,980
No.

1531
01:59:10,220 --> 01:59:13,280
That's on the record already, but we'll start the timer once you start your letter.

1532
01:59:15,220 --> 01:59:15,980
He goes to the council.

1533
01:59:16,340 --> 01:59:20,180
The residents have went through a branch of previously expressed concern with the proposed

1534
01:59:20,180 --> 01:59:23,880
wilderness subdivision in public testimony and again with this document.

1535
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:28,900
Williamson River Ranch consists of approximately 96 residential lots.

1536
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,600
We are pleading for resolution of safe egress from our neighborhood.

1537
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:38,360
not access, but Egress. Previously, at the time, Riverside subdivision was approved. It was built

1538
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:43,740
under the acknowledgement that an additional Egress access was pending with the three bridges project.

1539
01:59:43,780 --> 01:59:48,520
Later, the three bridges project was canceled. Subsequently, Williams and River Ranch was approved

1540
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:54,220
under the same objections that there isn't adequate emergency Egress access for their homes.

1541
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:59,260
In this letter, the attached map shows how these homes have a single Egress route.

1542
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,480
There should there be an emergency due the proximity of the homes to both flood and fire danger and how quickly these events can materialize the residents plead for a solution for rapid safe egress.

1543
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:22,480
The entire wounds and river ramps subdivision has one roadway to exit the island woods drive. There's another parcel road that runs through a neighborhood, but the major exit is island woods drive.

1544
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:28,520
It is then a mile from where we are in Williams River Ranch to Eagle Road in the event of emergency.

1545
02:00:29,460 --> 02:00:43,220
These residential homes 96 of them and their residents and now the residents of Wilderness River subdivision will converge to a single exit point where island woods drive ends and enters into Williams River Ranch today.

1546
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:47,000
All of those homes will have one single lane exit out.

1547
02:00:49,270 --> 02:00:57,030
Mass evacuation of over 280 homes in addition to the island with homes that are already on that road trying to evacuate on a two-lane street would likely fail.

1548
02:00:57,450 --> 02:01:08,410
In addition, an additional scenario, if the area of island woods or rivers and had a fire or flooding emergency, there's no other way through the residents of Williams River Ranch and the proposed wilderness river subdivision to get out.

1549
02:01:08,650 --> 02:01:11,730
It would not be proven to ignore the possibility in the lives of the residents.

1550
02:01:11,730 --> 02:01:17,490
The proposed wilderness subdivision will add 108 and more residential lots and unacceptable

1551
02:01:17,490 --> 02:01:18,570
emergency egress.

1552
02:01:18,830 --> 02:01:22,950
We ask the further development come with a standard paved neighborhood street that exits

1553
02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:27,370
on the east or south side of wilderness river subdivision to avoid any confusion.

1554
02:01:27,970 --> 02:01:33,270
The proposed fire access across Idaho concrete properties not for residential egress and would

1555
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:36,670
not support both incoming emergency vehicles and exiting resident vehicles.

1556
02:01:37,390 --> 02:01:40,330
The easements only for emergency vehicles coming in.

1557
02:01:40,330 --> 02:01:43,690
That's a pre-satch statement when all the residents can't use it to get out.

1558
02:01:44,130 --> 02:01:47,110
So we will waive to the fire department that comes to save us for the watch is burned.

1559
02:01:47,890 --> 02:01:51,610
If this easement were to become a planned egress, it would need to mean all requirements

1560
02:01:51,610 --> 02:01:55,390
to ACHD and not the one-lane ditch road there it is today.

1561
02:01:55,990 --> 02:02:00,330
City Council members, we bake for your decision to require a second egress access from the

1562
02:02:00,330 --> 02:02:02,470
wilderness subdivision in order to gain approval.

1563
02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:07,170
We're not against the subdivision as we recognize the unique living experience this area

1564
02:02:07,170 --> 02:02:07,550
allows.

1565
02:02:07,550 --> 02:02:12,090
We don't want to be the sad and unfortunate news story of the line of burnt out or

1566
02:02:12,090 --> 02:02:16,790
fletic cars and resulting deaths due to a rush decision to allow development without

1567
02:02:16,790 --> 02:02:18,430
responsible safety precautions.

1568
02:02:18,810 --> 02:02:19,350
All right.

1569
02:02:19,470 --> 02:02:20,470
Is there more to it?

1570
02:02:21,130 --> 02:02:21,350
Yes.

1571
02:02:21,530 --> 02:02:21,810
Okay.

1572
02:02:22,270 --> 02:02:22,570
Yes.

1573
02:02:22,610 --> 02:02:25,170
Somebody willing to give three minutes up for theirs.

1574
02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:26,970
Just state your name.

1575
02:02:27,210 --> 02:02:28,870
So I can.

1576
02:02:29,070 --> 02:02:29,550
Thank you.

1577
02:02:30,410 --> 02:02:31,230
Thank you.

1578
02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:31,510
Okay.

1579
02:02:31,530 --> 02:02:32,230
Continue, please.

1580
02:02:33,050 --> 02:02:33,750
Oh, he's done.

1581
02:02:34,530 --> 02:02:36,490
You get to take her.

1582
02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:37,130
You get to continue.

1583
02:02:38,130 --> 02:02:39,470
We've got three more minutes.

1584
02:02:39,570 --> 02:02:41,130
Yeah, get three more minutes now.

1585
02:02:41,970 --> 02:02:44,610
Sorry for the confusion, but yeah, go ahead.

1586
02:02:46,330 --> 02:02:48,050
There's no other way that you can.

1587
02:02:48,370 --> 02:02:49,430
There's no other.

1588
02:02:49,670 --> 02:02:52,090
There's no one other than you that can protect us.

1589
02:02:52,210 --> 02:02:53,930
There's nothing we can do but ask for your.

1590
02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:57,610
You to require the second adequate egress access to these neighborhoods.

1591
02:02:58,270 --> 02:03:01,150
No one wants to review a disaster effort happens and say,

1592
02:03:01,150 --> 02:03:03,910
If only we had assured our residents a safe place to live.

1593
02:03:04,250 --> 02:03:06,930
When we have the opportunity, please give this your full consideration

1594
02:03:06,930 --> 02:03:12,330
under your, or fiduciaries, wants abilities, and accountability, or city leaders, and decision-makers.

1595
02:03:13,370 --> 02:03:13,990
Just points.

1596
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:17,770
If either of which were to be blocked by natural disaster, flutter, fire, the residents would

1597
02:03:17,770 --> 02:03:19,430
not be able to reach safety to go road.

1598
02:03:19,870 --> 02:03:24,290
If a fire were to break out along the publicly accessed green bell along Boise River and wounds

1599
02:03:24,290 --> 02:03:29,230
from River Ranch where tall grass exists, July through September, fire could reach homes quickly

1600
02:03:29,230 --> 02:03:30,530
and become an inferno.

1601
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:35,390
Residents will need to exit and fire equipment to enter at the same time and it won't work

1602
02:03:35,390 --> 02:03:38,370
the single entry lane going into Island Woods.

1603
02:03:39,610 --> 02:03:43,510
A chances of those of us in the back end of the development getting out alive or poor.

1604
02:03:43,590 --> 02:03:45,390
Our street is the furthest east street.

1605
02:03:45,590 --> 02:03:49,110
We will be the last people to get out if we get out.

1606
02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:53,150
Prior we've used the growth in this area identified the need for additional safe egress

1607
02:03:53,150 --> 02:03:53,810
in access.

1608
02:03:54,770 --> 02:03:58,250
There's planned easement on the east side of the wilderness river subdivision to provide

1609
02:03:58,250 --> 02:03:58,970
fire access.

1610
02:03:58,970 --> 02:04:02,250
I talked about that to single-lead dirt access road.

1611
02:04:02,250 --> 02:04:07,250
It's only for the emergency vehicles to come in, stop for egress for residents.

1612
02:04:08,370 --> 02:04:10,290
In my opinion, two wrongs don't make a right.

1613
02:04:10,350 --> 02:04:14,310
This obligation has been passed up in the development of rivers and end winds from

1614
02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:14,850
river ranch.

1615
02:04:16,850 --> 02:04:22,450
It was a concern to 110 homes ago and adding 108 more without addressing the safety concern

1616
02:04:22,450 --> 02:04:23,530
would be irresponsible.

1617
02:04:24,070 --> 02:04:27,290
Lastly, how many exits are required by fire code for a public building?

1618
02:04:27,830 --> 02:04:28,950
I believe it's two.

1619
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:35,850
This is to assure egress any event one of the other access exits are blocked. You need a way out this should

1620
02:04:35,850 --> 02:04:39,890
Play exactly the same for what we're talking about here people should be provided a way out

1621
02:04:40,710 --> 02:04:47,150
Please don't improve. We're in this rear subdivision application and till there's a solution for the second residential egress access

1622
02:04:47,150 --> 02:04:49,010
It's very safe exit and the event of an emergency

1623
02:04:50,710 --> 02:04:52,870
Thank you. All right. Thank you, Tom.

1624
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:59,420
Okay, and go ahead Mike with your portion of that

1625
02:04:59,420 --> 02:04:59,980
I

1626
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:09,040
I feel that if anybody had any questions for him, for Tom. Mr. Mayor, may I remember the council once again, Mike Williams, plain staff of the record.

1627
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:17,800
I was going to stand up just as they opened up public testimony when I got picked up the sign-in sheet.

1628
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:27,940
I do want to bring to your attention that based on Eagle City Code 1-8-3, this is orders and rules of public hearing, and it has to do with written testimony.

1629
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:34,120
Standards for written testimony written testimony submitted for inclusion in the record of any public

1630
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:38,400
carrying shot could apply with the following standards. We're going to cover three of them really quick.

1631
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:44,780
Written testimony must be submitted to the C Clerk, no less than five working days prior to the day on which the public

1632
02:05:44,780 --> 02:05:50,620
carrying is scheduled. The presiding officer, that would be the mayor.

1633
02:05:50,620 --> 02:05:56,280
Shall require an oral acknowledgment of such written testimony having been submitted.

1634
02:05:57,100 --> 02:06:03,940
This is your oral acknowledgment of these five envelopes that contain the same written testimony

1635
02:06:03,940 --> 02:06:06,340
that were submitted yesterday.

1636
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:12,020
Based on that, if the written testimony fails to comply with the aforementioned standards,

1637
02:06:12,500 --> 02:06:18,920
the presiding officer may declares such testimony in a miscible that's going to be a choice

1638
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:26,980
The deciding officer, 500 council direction, is whether or not you'd like to admit the testimony or leaving leave it in a missible.

1639
02:06:28,140 --> 02:06:33,460
If you want to have it emitted, I have a copy for each one of you.

1640
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:42,240
And with that said, we heard is it the same information that we just heard in the oral testimony.

1641
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:49,220
Mr. Mayor, and members of the Council, it's a letter talking about the access and emergency

1642
02:06:49,220 --> 02:06:51,300
access with a petition.

1643
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,980
I believe it had, I want to say, 316 signatures.

1644
02:06:57,020 --> 02:06:57,160
Okay.

1645
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:04,840
Well, I will bring that, Mr. Mayor, Council members.

1646
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:11,860
I think he cited the co-chapter in verse and the May says that it's discretionary and so there's

1647
02:07:11,860 --> 02:07:15,780
with a comment at that. Okay, thanks and I'm going to bring about the council for their consideration.

1648
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:19,240
They can either accept it or decline it. What's your privilege?

1649
02:07:22,090 --> 02:07:23,750
Mr. Mayor, I think we should accept it. I mean,

1650
02:07:23,910 --> 02:07:27,430
we've heard it. So, I was not. We should accept it.

1651
02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:33,730
I know, I know, I know here by excited, but we have to

1652
02:07:33,730 --> 02:07:40,130
we have to maintain, yeah, this is still formal meeting. So, clapping your head. You know, I guess,

1653
02:07:40,130 --> 02:07:46,850
Yeah, please though because yeah, but anyhow we're gonna continue. Okay, Mr. Mayor. I I would agree

1654
02:07:46,850 --> 02:07:49,490
I think we should accept it. They went to a lot of trouble to get

1655
02:07:50,250 --> 02:07:56,750
this petition signed and all their concerns to us. So thank you Mike

1656
02:07:57,570 --> 02:07:58,550
And does

1657
02:07:59,090 --> 02:08:02,490
You guys concur as well. I take it. Okay

1658
02:08:02,490 --> 02:08:04,050
Okay, yeah, you got it now

1659
02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:09,110
Okay, we've moved through the formal part of that. So that's great

1660
02:08:09,110 --> 02:08:11,310
I'm like you have any other comments on that before?

1661
02:08:11,490 --> 02:08:11,790
No sir.

1662
02:08:12,030 --> 02:08:13,030
Okay, thank you.

1663
02:08:13,190 --> 02:08:15,770
All right, I'm going to get back to the list here.

1664
02:08:17,090 --> 02:08:18,050
Jenny, Fender,

1665
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:22,460
Mielin, thank you.

1666
02:08:24,810 --> 02:08:26,090
Let's see, Dan next thing.

1667
02:08:27,290 --> 02:08:32,270
Jenny, Fender, Mielin, I'm at 1-8-2-9 South Lagoway.

1668
02:08:32,610 --> 02:08:38,510
By the way, on those, some of those are some comments added to the letter.

1669
02:08:39,650 --> 02:08:46,630
Everyone signed off on that letter, but they also added comments, not everybody, but some did.

1670
02:08:47,770 --> 02:08:56,690
Some of the things I'm about to say are on the emotional side, I don't usually speak in public about things like this or whatever.

1671
02:08:57,510 --> 02:09:02,170
But our biggest concern is we don't want to come another Maui.

1672
02:09:02,170 --> 02:09:15,810
We do not want to have the one way in and one way out, and by the way, they're not speed bumps whatsoever.

1673
02:09:15,810 --> 02:09:24,410
on Island Woods Drive and the last time you spoke, you hadn't been through Island Woods

1674
02:09:24,410 --> 02:09:27,910
and you called it Island Woods's way or something like that.

1675
02:09:28,450 --> 02:09:33,130
So I'd really appreciate if you drive through there before you speak on it.

1676
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:35,450
Well, make sure we, okay, sorry.

1677
02:09:36,770 --> 02:09:37,790
Sorry, I don't know the rules.

1678
02:09:38,750 --> 02:09:42,950
It's just, it's just interesting the amount of excitement over here.

1679
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:52,060
And so I'm a bit frustrated. We already pay $3,600 at Williamson River Ranch for

1680
02:09:54,570 --> 02:09:59,950
for H.O.A. Fees, and that kind of comment is going to add to-

1681
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:12,020
If we have to maintain this road and pavements that Island Woods and Riversan decided to do. Actually, I think it ends at Riversan. So it's Island Woods thing. So other than that,

1682
02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:23,240
we, I'm just going to read my notes. We feel that the addition will affect everyone and not just those residing on logo and repairion.

1683
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:31,880
they'll be, sorry, I've already said that,

1684
02:10:34,540 --> 02:10:38,920
I was said that at a previous meeting that this

1685
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:45,540
was already taken in consideration in a comprehensive plan already, but no one considered

1686
02:10:45,540 --> 02:10:56,120
Eagle Road. Eagle Road is a mess. And we can't even get out in an emergency, but now I have to

1687
02:10:56,120 --> 02:11:03,640
sit through three cycles to get on to Eagle Road to go southbound. Northbound, no, sorry,

1688
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:10,700
northbound. Southbound, I have to edge my way in, pinch my way in, beg my way in. I made

1689
02:11:10,700 --> 02:11:12,600
wrong turn the other day and how to do it.

1690
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,940
The same three things sat through three light cycles

1691
02:11:16,420 --> 02:11:20,560
to get through onto Eagle Road.

1692
02:11:21,140 --> 02:11:24,780
And the problem isn't just our island woods drive.

1693
02:11:24,860 --> 02:11:27,240
It's being dumped out onto that road.

1694
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:30,700
And the right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing.

1695
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,540
I feel like I don't know, but you guys

1696
02:11:34,540 --> 02:11:36,060
say yes to everything.

1697
02:11:37,300 --> 02:11:38,520
How about not now?

1698
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:40,480
How about not right now?

1699
02:11:40,820 --> 02:11:42,380
Okay, well, I thank you for your comments.

1700
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:45,940
Okay, Dan, did you want to come up as well?

1701
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:57,440
Mr. Mayor, council members, good evening.

1702
02:11:58,780 --> 02:12:00,980
Oh, Dan Vandermiel in 1829, South August.

1703
02:12:02,700 --> 02:12:07,340
I'll go back to the hearing with the Planning and Zoning Commission on June 3rd.

1704
02:12:07,380 --> 02:12:10,260
Many people spoke up on this issue as they will tonight.

1705
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:18,140
And at the end, one of the commission members commented on how everybody who spoke was so polite.

1706
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:23,820
and respectful. I would say that we're probably polite and respectful because every person that spoke

1707
02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:28,480
was probably under the impression we were being listened to. But after hours of people coming

1708
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:33,280
up to the same microphone with 100% of those people speaking against it with valid reasons,

1709
02:12:33,580 --> 02:12:38,220
valid questions, valid data, the commission passed it anyways on a three-to-one vote.

1710
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:44,720
That was the gentleman mentioned. The person that voted against it not only had the concerns that

1711
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:46,320
I think the gentleman Mike raised.

1712
02:12:47,300 --> 02:12:50,140
But he also had, he also referenced four or five,

1713
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:52,020
I don't remember, the exact number requirements

1714
02:12:52,020 --> 02:12:54,560
that hadn't been met or hadn't been satisfied.

1715
02:12:57,300 --> 02:12:58,360
Yet they passed it anyways.

1716
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:02,400
It was apparent from this end, this side of the room,

1717
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:04,000
that the commission's minds were made up

1718
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:05,240
before the evening even began.

1719
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:10,020
After multiple testimonies about safety and traffic

1720
02:13:10,020 --> 02:13:12,440
from other residents, even citing numbers and statistics,

1721
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:16,160
One of the members on the commission said, quote,

1722
02:13:17,100 --> 02:13:18,900
When did this place become such a death trap?

1723
02:13:20,700 --> 02:13:22,460
When did this place become such a death trap?

1724
02:13:23,140 --> 02:13:26,540
And, apparently, mocking the concerns of everybody that spoke.

1725
02:13:27,740 --> 02:13:30,620
When talking about safety and risks from fire and flooding and anything else,

1726
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:34,740
there seems to be that would never happen here kind of mentality.

1727
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:38,940
By urge you to do some research on disasters that hit subdivisions

1728
02:13:38,940 --> 02:13:41,120
that were worse than they had to be,

1729
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,780
because there was only one way in and one way out.

1730
02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:45,920
I'll give you an example that wasn't bad,

1731
02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:48,760
was the Table Rock Fire here in Boise in 2016.

1732
02:13:49,940 --> 02:13:51,620
Started by just some guy lighting fireworks,

1733
02:13:52,540 --> 02:13:53,720
burned 2600 acres,

1734
02:13:54,340 --> 02:13:56,740
and went right up against the Warm Springs Mesa subdivision

1735
02:13:56,740 --> 02:13:59,260
that coincidentally had 400 homes.

1736
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:01,520
However, out of this 400 homes,

1737
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:03,260
it only damaged two of them.

1738
02:14:04,020 --> 02:14:06,120
It's likely that only two were damaged

1739
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:08,280
because the developers had enough foresight

1740
02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:11,200
to build four roads in and out of this subdivision.

1741
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,160
Four roads are 400 homes, not one.

1742
02:14:17,390 --> 02:14:19,770
I respectfully request that the City Council members

1743
02:14:19,770 --> 02:14:21,910
take these concerns seriously.

1744
02:14:23,410 --> 02:14:27,730
Pause until you have questions and answers to the questions

1745
02:14:27,730 --> 02:14:31,530
and executed solutions to these problems that we're bringing up

1746
02:14:31,530 --> 02:14:35,350
and not make decisions based on the same Cavalaire manner

1747
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:37,770
as we experienced on June 3rd.

1748
02:14:37,770 --> 02:14:38,590
Thank you.

1749
02:14:38,590 --> 02:14:46,050
All right, thank you, yeah, okay. I'm going to struggle with this one. You're Barton.

1750
02:14:47,170 --> 02:14:51,950
Sorry, I apologize, but you know who you are,

1751
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:57,420
but if you could correct me, that would be great.

1752
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,980
Give 1879 South Repairing and Way,

1753
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:10,240
just a little

1754
02:15:12,610 --> 02:15:17,150
information about the papers on the existing

1755
02:15:17,150 --> 02:15:29,330
road. I have been contacting ACHD which owns that road. And they sent me a contract that they had

1756
02:15:29,330 --> 02:15:34,070
with island woods subdivision 10 years ago

1757
02:15:34,070 --> 02:15:38,210
in which they allowed them to maintain the road

1758
02:15:38,210 --> 02:15:40,590
and set in the contract.

1759
02:15:41,070 --> 02:15:48,090
That ACID can cost it out the whole contract at any point

1760
02:15:49,770 --> 02:15:53,330
unless island woods maintain it.

1761
02:15:54,090 --> 02:15:55,870
They did not maintain it.

1762
02:15:55,870 --> 02:16:03,150
is paper sunk about an inch and it's not just a speed bump.

1763
02:16:04,130 --> 02:16:05,970
It's shaking your guts.

1764
02:16:09,290 --> 02:16:12,170
So in other words, ACHD owns it.

1765
02:16:12,450 --> 02:16:19,010
And what I would want is ACHD to take over and repave the whole world,

1766
02:16:19,230 --> 02:16:20,570
including these papers.

1767
02:16:20,990 --> 02:16:22,550
I don't need these papers.

1768
02:16:25,170 --> 02:16:30,310
So back to the question of the new development.

1769
02:16:32,610 --> 02:16:35,910
You traffic, I don't know who gave the traffic estimates,

1770
02:16:36,810 --> 02:16:45,190
but they showed that the traffic is already going to be much higher

1771
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:50,790
than the limits that you claimed.

1772
02:16:51,630 --> 02:16:59,930
That's as it is now, but in addition, when we have a new development, there would be much higher.

1773
02:17:00,590 --> 02:17:12,990
But the elephant in the room is not the traffic five years from now, but the traffic dealing during the construction that will take minimum five years in my mind.

1774
02:17:12,990 --> 02:17:25,130
and will include thousands of heavy duty tracks or whatever it is to construct that new development.

1775
02:17:25,630 --> 02:17:32,310
I estimate in five years of torture in terms of traffic on island routes.

1776
02:17:32,970 --> 02:17:42,370
And we have only one way island routes drive to handle all of this traffic during five years that will be nightmare

1777
02:17:42,370 --> 02:17:50,690
in terms of the construction traffic and we'll improve afterwards to be only very bad.

1778
02:17:53,470 --> 02:18:03,310
To avoid this new development, I believe that the new development needs an additional

1779
02:18:04,010 --> 02:18:12,730
In the separate unrelated roadway for the people, not for truck, for fire trucks, for people.

1780
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:14,070
You did it your team for that.

1781
02:18:14,830 --> 02:18:18,350
Yeah, just finish your thought for us and then you can just finish your thought.

1782
02:18:18,610 --> 02:18:20,550
Your statement and then your time is up.

1783
02:18:20,810 --> 02:18:24,310
So when to make sure you get your last sentence, and though, I don't want to cut you off.

1784
02:18:25,250 --> 02:18:27,090
So go ahead and finish your thought.

1785
02:18:27,590 --> 02:18:32,570
Yes, but don't give me your out of time, but I'll give you a chance to finish your thought.

1786
02:18:32,570 --> 02:18:36,690
I'm just going to give you a chance to finish your thought because your times up though.

1787
02:18:37,390 --> 02:18:37,430
Okay.

1788
02:18:37,770 --> 02:18:37,910
Go ahead.

1789
02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:38,090
Go ahead.

1790
02:18:39,170 --> 02:18:40,170
One more sentence.

1791
02:18:40,450 --> 02:18:42,370
One more sentence.

1792
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:57,400
I believe that improving this new development without creating a road additional road independent of

1793
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:05,780
would. Would be close to Kremlin. That's what I believe. Because things will happen.

1794
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,060
Yeah. All right. Thank you. That's I'll give you that last time.

1795
02:19:09,060 --> 02:19:14,200
Thank you for that. Okay. Thanks a lot. All right. The share you gave your three minutes.

1796
02:19:14,740 --> 02:19:20,120
So when we've on the hand and Cheryl, you come up one at a time or together,

1797
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:26,000
or yes, you did.

1798
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:29,380
I'm looking on the wrong line. Well, at least you got your name, right?

1799
02:19:29,380 --> 02:19:31,820
All right, Beth,

1800
02:19:35,460 --> 02:19:37,780
land is, yes, there you are.

1801
02:19:38,900 --> 02:19:42,480
No rush, you don't start to, but it comes on.

1802
02:19:46,660 --> 02:19:48,240
Good evening, Mayor and City Council.

1803
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:53,520
Beth, land is from 1540 East Rivers and Court in Eagle, Idaho.

1804
02:19:55,160 --> 02:19:57,280
I've lived in Rivers and for 19 years.

1805
02:19:57,940 --> 02:19:59,960
I grew up by a dairy farm, Nailanoi.

1806
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:07,380
I understand what a rancher or farmer wants to sell land. I think the ranchers should have the choice to do that.

1807
02:20:08,460 --> 02:20:12,600
We know there's been a lot of discussion about entrance and exits off the island.

1808
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:19,720
If there's some critical event, we are aware of the traffic problems, not only on island woods, but on eagle island.

1809
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:26,440
Those are issues with aid accounting, highway department, and nothing that city council can solve tonight.

1810
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:32,640
We also know that 80 county highway department takes a while with their long-term planning.

1811
02:20:33,780 --> 02:20:40,380
For those of us who lived here a while, we know how long it took to change chindon from four lanes to two lanes.

1812
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:42,600
And that's a heavy road with thousands of traffic.

1813
02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:47,880
So for them to add our road and an egress might take a little while.

1814
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:54,280
In the meantime to make an emergency exit, I'm sure they still have standards that they must adhere to.

1815
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:56,420
And so again, that would also take time.

1816
02:20:58,100 --> 02:21:01,360
If I thought it was a severe risk problem,

1817
02:21:01,580 --> 02:21:02,600
I could choose to move.

1818
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:06,100
I'm taking my risk, taking my chance to stay put.

1819
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:10,760
In the meantime, I don't think that we should stop the land owners

1820
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:13,660
while we wait for a county to take action.

1821
02:21:14,740 --> 02:21:16,220
All right, thank you.

1822
02:21:16,460 --> 02:21:17,840
All right, Jack, a slain?

1823
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:27,180
Good evening.

1824
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:29,920
My name is Jack Swayne.

1825
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:37,340
And I also live at 1540 East Riverside Court as the prior speaker stated, I've received

1826
02:21:37,340 --> 02:21:37,780
this.

1827
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:44,140
Our location, our location is contiguous with the access lane that Toby and Linda Williams

1828
02:21:44,140 --> 02:21:45,040
had used every day.

1829
02:21:45,180 --> 02:21:48,520
So we're neighbors, we're our properties, but together.

1830
02:21:49,720 --> 02:21:52,560
We moved here almost 20 years ago, 19 years ago.

1831
02:21:53,180 --> 02:21:54,940
And I want to tell you about our experience.

1832
02:21:54,940 --> 02:22:01,880
Our experience has been that Toby and Linda have been conscientious and just terrific neighbors

1833
02:22:02,500 --> 02:22:06,320
and not everybody always agrees on everything, but they're conscientious people.

1834
02:22:06,900 --> 02:22:12,980
And that is shown not only in their actions in the neighborhood, but in other parts of

1835
02:22:12,980 --> 02:22:16,440
the county where they participate in lots of other events.

1836
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:24,120
Our expectations when we moved here are hopes, I'll say, the ranch would stay the way it is forever

1837
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:29,960
we could look out and see it for our own self interest. However, we also knew that they could

1838
02:22:29,960 --> 02:22:35,880
develop their property at some point in the future subject to the appropriate regulations and

1839
02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:42,180
reviews, and that's what we're going through now. In terms of, so that's our experience, our

1840
02:22:42,180 --> 02:22:47,960
expectations, in terms of looking to the future, we support their right to develop their property

1841
02:22:49,460 --> 02:22:52,680
subject to, you know, the appropriate reviews. Thank you.

1842
02:22:52,900 --> 02:22:53,320
Thank you.

1843
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:54,060
Thank you very much.

1844
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:55,740
All right, Toby?

1845
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:12,520
I'm Linda Williams, and this is my husband, Toby, and we're the ranch owners.

1846
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:16,320
Would you like to both speak just so I know, or are you just coming up with one?

1847
02:23:16,320 --> 02:23:19,460
I might go over just a little bit over three minutes, but I'll use his.

1848
02:23:19,480 --> 02:23:22,080
That's what I mean, yeah, it's all I'm getting at. So just so we know I had a time.

1849
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:24,480
Yeah, he knows. I can write his name in the weekend.

1850
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:26,440
I don't want to cut you off, and if you could stay in the flow.

1851
02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:30,840
Look at that ranch has been there since 1965.

1852
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:32,880
They moved from Oregon and purchased it then.

1853
02:23:33,060 --> 02:23:35,920
It was over 400 acres of river pasture land,

1854
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:39,480
which they supported a horse and caliperation.

1855
02:23:39,880 --> 02:23:43,420
Eagle was a rural ranching farming community

1856
02:23:43,420 --> 02:23:45,420
with the population less than 400.

1857
02:23:45,640 --> 02:23:47,980
I don't think it was even incorporated at that time.

1858
02:23:48,780 --> 02:23:50,480
At that time, and for years after,

1859
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:53,040
there was one mom and pop grocery store.

1860
02:23:53,040 --> 02:24:01,300
Orville Jackson was still the drugist, and he resided in the beautiful rock house that was next to the Baptist Church, where we got married

1861
02:24:01,300 --> 02:24:04,960
42 years ago that age is this it's now Rembrandt's

1862
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:10,200
The flower meal was next door to Rembrandt's to the church

1863
02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:19,920
The Eagle Girl was a local favorite where school kids like this one walked for lunch and could get a brown paper bag filled with greasy fries and hot dog for 50 cents

1864
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:27,000
The nut feed was a local get together where all of us, we, you probably remember if you've been here long enough.

1865
02:24:27,960 --> 02:24:32,300
And gathered it, there was a vacant field where the youth ranch is now, and that's where that was.

1866
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:37,740
Our vitter and air and duckling, beautiful, brought cows, stood where Albertsons now is.

1867
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:40,340
Those were the high end homes of the time.

1868
02:24:40,900 --> 02:24:49,000
We drove our cows across the river to graze in the cornfield where St. Alfonso sits now before the connector was there.

1869
02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:54,980
We also grazed our broodmars and the fields south where Craven, the real seat theater sits.

1870
02:24:55,400 --> 02:24:59,860
That property was owned by our friends, the elicis, who operated a cattle processing.

1871
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:12,320
The future facility where the two rivers day spa is. Our kids caught the bus on Eagle Road. It was two lanes, traffic halted on Eagle Road, imagine that in both directions.

1872
02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:27,520
And a flashing red light was at Tinden. There was an even stop light there. It was just flashing. And what am I saying? I'm saying that we have seen our small beloved community, roll and change. All of that without our permission.

1873
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:31,760
We moved to this little community, but we embrace it.

1874
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,900
We love the new changes.

1875
02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:38,560
We like to go out and eat, but at times it seems pretty unfamiliar.

1876
02:25:39,020 --> 02:25:41,300
We just don't know where to go from now.

1877
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:44,640
And we've witnessed the changes inevitable,

1878
02:25:45,060 --> 02:25:46,660
and it's uncomfortable for a lot.

1879
02:25:47,580 --> 02:25:50,200
One thing is fact that Eagle City Council

1880
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:54,820
has worked really hard to make Eagle the most sought-after

1881
02:25:54,820 --> 02:25:56,720
community in the Treasure Valley.

1882
02:25:56,720 --> 02:26:06,060
And I want to thank you all, you know, it can't be hard for you to set up, I mean it can be easy for you to set up there and listen to controversies and varying opinions.

1883
02:26:06,700 --> 02:26:14,000
When often the testimonies that are presented are somewhat self-serving, they don't want it in their backyard.

1884
02:26:14,740 --> 02:26:20,760
I don't understand if they thought that was so scary to live there and that they would move there in the first place.

1885
02:26:20,780 --> 02:26:24,280
That should have been researched and understood at that time.

1886
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:44,820
So, to try to sway the leadership in a favorable birth direction, scary scenarios are presented, like Maui, really, we live in an eagle island, there's water all around, but not seeing it couldn't happen, but most of them are not valid, much like in this case.

1887
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:50,320
It's probably the last available property on the river in Eagle.

1888
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:58,020
And if it's approved, there's going to be such great access to areas of stunning natural trails.

1889
02:26:58,360 --> 02:27:00,160
The blackberries are this big this year.

1890
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:01,540
They're back there and they're all over.

1891
02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:06,140
You can pick them while life and easy river access.

1892
02:27:06,180 --> 02:27:07,940
We cut a trout down there in my grandsons.

1893
02:27:08,140 --> 02:27:10,080
We're here from Arizona, a great big fat trout.

1894
02:27:10,340 --> 02:27:13,060
That would be an access for everyone, not just us.

1895
02:27:13,060 --> 02:27:16,620
It's not a scary unsafe place, not at all.

1896
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:22,600
Those roads that access road, we've come down there with dump trucks and it's a big access

1897
02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:23,060
road.

1898
02:27:23,740 --> 02:27:28,660
It's been a really hard decision for Toby and I, but we're ready to share this beautiful

1899
02:27:28,660 --> 02:27:34,560
property with others and see what a humble retirement might be where we can lend a nut borrow.

1900
02:27:36,180 --> 02:27:41,420
Physical limitations have changed our ability to train the young horses and Dr. cattle

1901
02:27:41,420 --> 02:27:43,980
and all that goes into up keeping a working ranch.

1902
02:27:44,600 --> 02:27:47,780
We've worked long and hard, and as they say,

1903
02:27:47,900 --> 02:27:50,480
it's not the years, it's smiles, so it's time.

1904
02:27:51,840 --> 02:27:53,220
All of our children are professionals,

1905
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:55,660
and they won't be returning to take over the ranch.

1906
02:27:56,380 --> 02:27:57,260
We have nine grandchildren.

1907
02:27:57,260 --> 02:27:58,620
We like to help educate.

1908
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:04,460
We're confident that our team has covered all the requirements

1909
02:28:04,460 --> 02:28:07,560
necessary for this project to be approved.

1910
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:09,680
Studies required are completed.

1911
02:28:09,680 --> 02:28:16,480
And we respectfully ask that you consider what benefit this will have to the Eagle community,

1912
02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:20,320
and that you will allow it to move forward tonight.

1913
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:22,100
We appreciate you.

1914
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:23,200
Thank you.

1915
02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:28,310
Rene.

1916
02:28:42,180 --> 02:28:42,620
Good council.

1917
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:43,700
Good evening.

1918
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:44,700
Hi, Mary May.

1919
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:46,200
I met you the other day via telephone.

1920
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:47,780
So it's good to see you in person.

1921
02:28:48,080 --> 02:28:49,240
Nice to meet you, too.

1922
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:54,760
I'm a resident of Island Woods and newly resident, but I've resided originally from California.

1923
02:28:54,760 --> 02:28:58,460
I came out to Eagle because I'm an equestrian. I'm a master falconer.

1924
02:28:58,480 --> 02:28:59,380
You're at just right now.

1925
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:01,120
1700 River Chaseway.

1926
02:29:01,180 --> 02:29:02,620
Perfect thing. Thank you, sir.

1927
02:29:03,540 --> 02:29:06,820
So I'm an equestrian, a master falconer, and I enjoy the outdoors.

1928
02:29:07,740 --> 02:29:10,780
And it's kind of shocking to have the opposing parties say to us

1929
02:29:10,780 --> 02:29:13,280
we're self-serving controversial.

1930
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:16,140
I know progress has two names.

1931
02:29:16,500 --> 02:29:19,460
It's progress that's done, and it's progress that's done right.

1932
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:22,580
First of all, I'm not opposed to progress,

1933
02:29:22,580 --> 02:29:28,620
but I'm opposed to the subdivision that they're proposing because hearing their sales pitch,

1934
02:29:28,700 --> 02:29:32,740
there was a lot of kinks in their armor. A lot of their words were, well, we're making headway.

1935
02:29:33,860 --> 02:29:38,500
Minimal. Things that weren't concrete and solid. I don't see studies that are being presented.

1936
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:43,820
I talk to Fish and Game, Ryan, who's a biologist, over there. There's a deciduous trees back there

1937
02:29:43,820 --> 02:29:49,100
that eagles, raptors, and under the migratory bird, federal bird, they are protected.

1938
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:55,180
I don't see anybody saying that there was studies presented a corny fishing game nothing was done on that proposed development

1939
02:29:55,180 --> 02:29:59,940
I also see here that the health safety and tranquility of our neighbors being Jeopardy!

1940
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,380
I don't see them talking about the grading and when they do the grading, are we going to receive fallout from dirt on to our community? Is it going to be a health factor?

1941
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:21,140
I have saw two geese families taken out on either one's drive from a driver, not witnessing the actual taking out of the geese, but I came out saw two adults and eight babies dead in the gutter on two separate sides.

1942
02:30:21,140 --> 02:30:23,480
These were from people accessing Eagle Roads.

1943
02:30:23,660 --> 02:30:25,800
It shouldn't be in our subdivision number one.

1944
02:30:26,280 --> 02:30:27,940
And it's at proposed subdivisions,

1945
02:30:27,960 --> 02:30:29,500
like only going to add trouble to that.

1946
02:30:29,740 --> 02:30:30,460
We have trash.

1947
02:30:30,980 --> 02:30:33,140
We have people taking gut-hooking bass

1948
02:30:33,140 --> 02:30:34,400
and throwing them in our pawns.

1949
02:30:34,460 --> 02:30:35,600
It shouldn't be back there.

1950
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:38,620
So, again, I'm not opposed to the development,

1951
02:30:38,780 --> 02:30:39,940
if it's done correctly.

1952
02:30:40,380 --> 02:30:42,320
So, I'm opposed to the annexation.

1953
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:44,000
You have right now,

1954
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:46,000
Island Woods has 250 homes.

1955
02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:50,520
Rivers End has 100 plus, I don't know exactly how many,

1956
02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:55,240
you've got Williamson Ranch and now they're proposing to piggyback off one thoroughfair.

1957
02:30:55,620 --> 02:31:01,000
It's insane. I think like the consensus of the community here is that they have a

1958
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:05,720
road in and out. It's not too much to ask. And yet it was very insulting for the gentleman to

1959
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:10,520
tell us to handle our own papers. I want to know what the residents of our three subdivisions.

1960
02:31:10,520 --> 02:31:20,500
What are we going to get out of this deal? It seems like they're really pitching that and they

1961
02:31:20,500 --> 02:31:25,080
have really have they considered this community where we're an afterthought. I don't think anybody

1962
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:29,540
in here wants to be an afterthought. I think we want to work with the City Council. I talked to you

1963
02:31:29,540 --> 02:31:34,240
Mary about going forward. I don't feel we need to have a tug of war. I think maybe the development

1964
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:39,980
if it's done right can go in. But again, we, as a community, multiple communities need to be considered.

1965
02:31:40,380 --> 02:31:45,160
And I think if the city doesn't want to open itself up to litigation and action,

1966
02:31:45,220 --> 02:31:49,560
class action lawsuits from the residents because it's an accident waiting to happen. If the

1967
02:31:49,560 --> 02:31:52,460
These were taken out a child or children are going to be next.

1968
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:57,620
So that roadway, I'm a corner house and I see people speed there all times the night.

1969
02:31:58,020 --> 02:32:03,760
I think the A to County Sheriff may be going to help us out in stepping up motorcycle

1970
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:08,280
cops in the community to prevent the speeding because speed bumps and stop signs are not

1971
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:09,160
going to work.

1972
02:32:09,820 --> 02:32:10,000
All right.

1973
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:10,780
Thank you for your time.

1974
02:32:10,780 --> 02:32:11,100
Thank you.

1975
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:12,760
All right.

1976
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:13,380
Brent.

1977
02:32:24,330 --> 02:32:25,290
No, I said Brent.

1978
02:32:26,270 --> 02:32:26,290
Sorry.

1979
02:32:27,810 --> 02:32:30,550
I will say Lorraine in a minute, yep, it's Brent.

1980
02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:32,710
Let's look at for you.

1981
02:32:33,110 --> 02:32:36,190
I'm looking for you.

1982
02:32:36,190 --> 02:32:40,930
Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, my name is Brent Brockson, and I am here representing

1983
02:32:41,450 --> 02:32:42,730
Rivers and End.

1984
02:32:43,790 --> 02:32:48,050
I did meet the timetable this time and your address from where it gets you these documents

1985
02:32:48,050 --> 02:32:51,590
on July, the Frickie, give me your address for a quick deal for the record.

1986
02:32:52,070 --> 02:32:55,430
Yes, my address is 1142 East Riversong.

1987
02:32:56,810 --> 02:33:19,630
I've been a resident there since 2009 so I'd like to start by just mentioning a couple of things in my report and I'm assuming that you have read the concern that we have and it was signed by the entire board with respect to the egress, the issue of whether or not there's adequate the easement would be adequate.

1988
02:33:19,630 --> 02:33:38,950
The original easement which you've seen, it was an irrigation easement, the second easement in 2007 was granted as a bootstrapped in as an emergency easement and the fire department is now recommending permanent easement.

1989
02:33:39,230 --> 02:33:49,090
But as you noted in my document, I have a lot of questions and we have questions about about the adequacy of that easement just by recording the existing easement

1990
02:33:49,090 --> 02:33:53,570
is not really going to do it, because it has to meet the current fire codes.

1991
02:33:54,130 --> 02:33:59,170
You'll see what the requirements are in our documents that we sent you.

1992
02:33:59,450 --> 02:34:02,510
I'm reluctant to say anything because we have a fire expert there.

1993
02:34:02,510 --> 02:34:06,310
I'm going to talk about roads in a minute, and that also makes me gulp a little bit,

1994
02:34:06,490 --> 02:34:08,710
because we have an expert from ACHD there.

1995
02:34:09,070 --> 02:34:14,970
But nonetheless, the road requirements have to be met for a fire apparatus,

1996
02:34:14,970 --> 02:34:20,690
and is it going to the low requirements going to be for a 79,000 pound truck or is it going

1997
02:34:20,690 --> 02:34:27,570
to be for a bumper truck or just a fire apparatus and by definition is that you know a boy scout

1998
02:34:27,570 --> 02:34:34,830
with a backpack and a Honda 90 I mean what is the access going to be going over to that bridge the

1999
02:34:34,830 --> 02:34:41,150
bridge then has to be met and fire code requires it has to be met according to their standards as

2000
02:34:41,150 --> 02:34:48,310
So, I'll move on, you have that document, so it's quite concerning to 114 residents in our neighborhood.

2001
02:34:49,190 --> 02:34:54,090
With regard to the traffic, you've seen the traffic studies, there's experts,

2002
02:34:54,090 --> 02:34:57,090
and we're talking to one of them right now, which makes me nervous.

2003
02:34:57,710 --> 02:34:59,970
But on the applicant's actual...

2004
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:08,340
Page 4 of their study of August, 2023, that notes that the only public access is east on east of River

2005
02:35:08,340 --> 02:35:16,040
Chase. Traffic counts exceed the 1,000 traffic on a local street, the violation of their 80

2006
02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:26,420
county, ACHG's policy. It's in the document. Full buildout at Willden's will bring 2766 additional vehicles,

2007
02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:31,080
which exceeds the ACC's planning threshold.

2008
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:35,860
In addition, additional improvements, according this is all on that document,

2009
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:37,100
this is error language.

2010
02:35:37,480 --> 02:35:41,600
Additional improvements may be needed to mitigate development impact

2011
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:44,000
on item withdrawal and riverchase.

2012
02:35:44,620 --> 02:35:46,660
What does that actually mean?

2013
02:35:47,060 --> 02:35:52,840
This is a violation of ACHD's requirement that will not place

2014
02:35:53,500 --> 02:35:55,960
unduperten on existing traffic systems.

2015
02:35:56,600 --> 02:35:59,800
Well, excuse me, but it definitely will.

2016
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:01,180
It will be in violation.

2017
02:36:01,300 --> 02:36:02,040
Let me take a talk.

2018
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:02,760
Thank you, Mayor.

2019
02:36:03,340 --> 02:36:05,780
Is there somebody that wants to relinquish their time

2020
02:36:05,780 --> 02:36:07,960
that did not get to speak, not yet, for us.

2021
02:36:07,980 --> 02:36:08,700
Just use speaking.

2022
02:36:09,420 --> 02:36:10,640
Randy, was it you and the back?

2023
02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:15,840
Who did I call on and he said, no, will you relinquish your time

2024
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:16,720
to this gentleman?

2025
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:18,500
OK, thank you.

2026
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:19,180
You can continue.

2027
02:36:21,220 --> 02:36:22,820
Well, thank you, and I'm just about done.

2028
02:36:22,820 --> 02:36:23,340
in any way.

2029
02:36:23,560 --> 02:36:24,120
That's all right.

2030
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:25,340
But we'll do it anywhere.

2031
02:36:25,700 --> 02:36:26,660
We'll do it the right way.

2032
02:36:27,300 --> 02:36:28,880
Thank you very much.

2033
02:36:30,300 --> 02:36:38,240
Well, Mr. Mayor, our association, our board, 114 homes, went on record in opposition.

2034
02:36:38,940 --> 02:36:46,720
For the safety factors, we have met in the past with EMS, with fire at the fire department,

2035
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:53,560
with the police and we're having a meeting, associations are having a meeting with all of the

2036
02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:58,460
with the police, with the fire, all this, but unfortunately that's in like two months from now.

2037
02:36:58,900 --> 02:37:06,720
And so we're all worried about safety and access. This whole egress business is really concerning

2038
02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:13,220
because we're all old. I'm old. You know, you can tell I'm a little nervous being up here. I'm old.

2039
02:37:13,220 --> 02:37:20,760
how are we going to get out if I didn't what is blocked? It was blocked once before when we had the

2040
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:26,080
floods. I didn't what is blocked then. How if one of us had a heart attack had medical issues,

2041
02:37:26,460 --> 02:37:34,800
had anything else? How could we get out? We couldn't get out when they had the fire in a small subdivision

2042
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:40,880
by between rivers end and island wood,

2043
02:37:41,540 --> 02:37:42,920
when that fire took place,

2044
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:44,700
if there had been a flood on island wood,

2045
02:37:44,820 --> 02:37:46,860
you could have never got a ladder truck in

2046
02:37:46,860 --> 02:37:49,060
or a pump or truck, it would have been impossible.

2047
02:37:49,640 --> 02:37:52,020
And yes, you could push around it and all of that.

2048
02:37:52,160 --> 02:37:53,880
But we need another egress.

2049
02:37:54,320 --> 02:37:55,780
And you can see in my letter,

2050
02:37:56,260 --> 02:38:00,340
and you well know the political dynamics that took place

2051
02:38:00,340 --> 02:38:03,760
when the road that was taken out of the plan

2052
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:10,280
five-year-in-10-year plan of ACHD for the three bridges, I get that. I mean, I did work for the governor

2053
02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:17,000
then. I sort of know how that all took place and that's all fine. Except it's not fine. When we bought

2054
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:23,940
in our subdivision, it was predicated upon that exit. That's, it says that in our documents. So I knew

2055
02:38:23,940 --> 02:38:30,680
when I bought my place that we were going to have to have another road. So I beg you to disapprove this

2056
02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:37,320
And tell there was a public road or a way for us as residents to get out in the event on emergency.

2057
02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:38,880
Thank you.

2058
02:38:38,940 --> 02:38:39,680
Thank you.

2059
02:38:40,700 --> 02:38:40,780
All right.

2060
02:38:40,940 --> 02:38:43,200
That's the end of the people that signed up.

2061
02:38:43,500 --> 02:38:46,940
Now, if you've changed your mind, or you want to come back up, go ahead and come back up

2062
02:38:46,940 --> 02:38:48,500
and see your name and address for the record.

2063
02:38:49,160 --> 02:38:49,880
But give testimony.

2064
02:38:50,180 --> 02:38:52,820
Now, you get to say the three minutes.

2065
02:38:53,080 --> 02:38:56,680
But if it's something you feel like somebody's already said it,

2066
02:38:57,780 --> 02:39:00,560
that's up to you if you want to continue that same thought or not.

2067
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:02,460
but feel free to come up.

2068
02:39:02,460 --> 02:39:04,200
The rain that stood up.

2069
02:39:04,620 --> 02:39:07,820
Yeah, Lord, I think the steam let the rain go first, right?

2070
02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:10,880
Yeah, let her go, then you know that you'd call there.

2071
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:14,720
So see, I told you I'd call you back, but that is.

2072
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:19,280
It's Lorraine Henry 1663 River Grove Way and Eagle.

2073
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,240
Good evening to the mayor and to the council.

2074
02:39:22,980 --> 02:39:25,920
The Allen was born of the board of directors recently

2075
02:39:25,920 --> 02:39:28,840
circulated a petition and you received a copy of that.

2076
02:39:28,840 --> 02:39:29,740
Thank you very much.

2077
02:39:29,740 --> 02:39:33,780
which was presented to each of you along with signature pages.

2078
02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:38,540
Currently, there are 351 residents that have signed that petition.

2079
02:39:39,780 --> 02:39:44,540
We depend on this council and our mayor to be our gatekeepers,

2080
02:39:44,740 --> 02:39:49,120
to find solutions that address the well-being of our communities

2081
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:53,480
and that promote a reasonable level of growth and expansion.

2082
02:39:53,820 --> 02:39:55,180
We understand that.

2083
02:39:55,180 --> 02:39:59,940
In the case of the proposed wilderness subdivision, our concern is...

2084
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:09,660
The safety of our residents. As we would face a tremendous increase in traffic, you see the numbers. Our residents

2085
02:40:09,660 --> 02:40:17,000
have already been subjected to unsafe traffic conditions on the island would drive. In addition to

2086
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:24,760
being concerned about timely access for emergency services, we have had several near misses due to traffic

2087
02:40:24,760 --> 02:40:26,580
conditions on this road.

2088
02:40:26,980 --> 02:40:30,480
One child, while attempting to cross the street

2089
02:40:30,480 --> 02:40:33,060
and another with a pedestrian who came

2090
02:40:33,060 --> 02:40:36,620
within a few inches of being hit by a speeder,

2091
02:40:36,900 --> 02:40:38,980
who lost control of his vehicle,

2092
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:40,980
went up the bank on the sidewalk

2093
02:40:40,980 --> 02:40:44,040
and came within inches of that pedestrian.

2094
02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:46,680
We have, and those are just a few examples.

2095
02:40:47,480 --> 02:40:50,340
Incidents like these, plus, as Renee mentioned,

2096
02:40:50,340 --> 02:40:54,240
the purposeful slaughtering of the current count,

2097
02:40:54,520 --> 02:40:58,360
17 of our geese and ducks, in the last few months,

2098
02:40:58,900 --> 02:41:02,920
stand as a stark reminder to us of how dangerous our roads are.

2099
02:41:04,300 --> 02:41:09,100
We request that you not move forward with a project

2100
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:14,600
that further exasperates our already dangerous situation,

2101
02:41:14,600 --> 02:41:21,820
without holding the developer accountable to mitigating traffic on Island Woods.

2102
02:41:22,460 --> 02:41:29,260
We understand that while there's a balance to be struck between encouraging growth and expansion,

2103
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:35,700
while providing the wealth for the well-being and safety of our constituents, we've got to do both.

2104
02:41:35,700 --> 02:41:46,980
However, island boards and certainly eagle road stand as stark reminders of the consequences of allowing inadequate infrastructure to wreak havoc on our roads.

2105
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:55,960
Therefore, we respectfully request that you impose an ACHD road trust.

2106
02:41:57,640 --> 02:42:05,640
As a requirement for approval of this project, this would provide much needed funds to facilitate the traffic calming

2107
02:42:05,700 --> 02:42:12,180
measures that are so badly needed on island wood strife. Ideally, we would prefer a new

2108
02:42:12,180 --> 02:42:19,040
ingress egress, but an immediate solution, according to ACHD, is a road trust. The

2109
02:42:19,040 --> 02:42:24,840
develop would put funds into that trust and we'd be able to mitigate the traffic. Thank you

2110
02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:35,680
very much. Have a good evening. All right. Let's leave you and come up now and then we'll

2111
02:42:40,740 --> 02:42:40,740
make

2112
02:42:40,740 --> 02:42:48,620
Steve Glasgow, 642 River Chase Way, and either would subdivision of live there about 20 years

2113
02:42:48,620 --> 02:42:54,980
and we are just not the traffic and everything else is going on. I can appreciate everything

2114
02:42:54,980 --> 02:43:03,680
every set here and it's true and they put it so eloquently. But at the same time, getting the past

2115
02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:09,240
councils and whatever else who have not taken the secondary access and push it through doesn't

2116
02:43:09,240 --> 02:43:13,740
solve the problem, just sitting there saying, which I heard during the

2117
02:43:14,580 --> 02:43:17,860
commission's meeting, is well, it's already been done. So what do we

2118
02:43:17,860 --> 02:43:22,320
do? And we just let it pass. That's not your job. You guys are the

2119
02:43:22,320 --> 02:43:26,680
decision makers. And this should have been solved a long time ago,

2120
02:43:26,820 --> 02:43:30,560
putting that secondary access through, that like said earlier,

2121
02:43:30,820 --> 02:43:34,600
citizens need to get out the back way. We just don't come. I mean, if there is

2122
02:43:34,600 --> 02:43:38,140
when you plan for the worst things, you say, okay, there's an accident or

2123
02:43:38,140 --> 02:43:43,160
a world, equals packed. You can't get out if there's a vaccine on a trail side and I'm a

2124
02:43:43,160 --> 02:43:48,060
wood strived. Nobody can get to the back. The fire part we can't get there, paramedics,

2125
02:43:48,420 --> 02:43:53,920
and people can't get out. So I just think this is a safety issue. I don't disapprove.

2126
02:43:54,060 --> 02:43:59,520
I mean, you know, development, land development, real estate. I don't disapprove the subdivision.

2127
02:43:59,560 --> 02:44:06,220
I don't disapprove what they're doing. But I've had to compromise and work with issues and solve

2128
02:44:06,220 --> 02:44:10,720
other things, problems with health and safety, and I think that's what we need to do.

2129
02:44:11,380 --> 02:44:15,860
We need to look at that because if we don't, then we're just setting up the long term

2130
02:44:15,860 --> 02:44:16,580
20 years now.

2131
02:44:16,700 --> 02:44:23,120
You're just passing the buck, everybody else, which is what has happened now, and we've

2132
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:28,600
always seen it coming, and it's just gotten worse, and it's developing and got faster and

2133
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:31,960
better with what's going on in the traffic issues and everything else is the same.

2134
02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:42,140
So I respectfully say I appreciate the Williamson and what they're doing and don't just prove what they're trying to do but at the same time

2135
02:44:42,140 --> 02:44:45,380
That's not the council's job is to make them happy.

2136
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:49,980
It's our job is to make the citizens of this eagle safe.

2137
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:52,640
And I think that's the top priority.

2138
02:44:53,420 --> 02:44:58,280
And I say that we're just opposed to this time.

2139
02:44:58,280 --> 02:44:59,980
I think if you can solve the hack.

2140
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:15,280
We have access to the east and get us out of there. And I'm for it. I like it. I think, you know, he goes a great place. It's just, you know, right now, we need to solve some issues. So, appreciate you guys and, as I say.

2141
02:45:17,640 --> 02:45:18,320
Mr.

2142
02:45:32,190 --> 02:45:38,950
Mayor, Council, I'm David Shepherd 1639, South Lake Morway Eagle.

2143
02:45:40,510 --> 02:45:47,850
I'll repeat one thing he said is I'm very much in favor of the Wilderness, moving ahead

2144
02:45:47,850 --> 02:46:01,100
However, I'm against moving forward without taking that alternate exit and potentially entrance

2145
02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:02,520
into the area.

2146
02:46:03,400 --> 02:46:09,000
I applaud the city's work with two other neighborhoods,

2147
02:46:12,080 --> 02:46:18,240
Lakemore, Colchester Road and

2148
02:46:18,240 --> 02:46:25,420
over a bambory, which is also one of the older neighborhoods, both of them have found it within

2149
02:46:26,420 --> 02:46:33,700
their planning to make sure that they had alternate exits for their people, not only in cases

2150
02:46:33,700 --> 02:46:40,640
of an emergency, whether it's by design or not, they are using both locus grove out of bambory

2151
02:46:40,640 --> 02:46:50,040
up through Chipper around giving them access to 2026, or as we call it, Chindon, and also

2152
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:57,400
Colchester back through the addition to Lakemore has that through a gated community as I

2153
02:46:57,400 --> 02:47:03,160
understand all the residents in that area also have the gate pass to get through, whether

2154
02:47:03,160 --> 02:47:09,180
it was just to get to the swimming pool or emergency access out, I commute on my bicycle

2155
02:47:09,180 --> 02:47:17,800
up through that pathway through the park there and I see people that live elsewhere and

2156
02:47:17,800 --> 02:47:24,060
late more go out to Chindon. So they've relieved that pressure in both neighborhoods. Matter

2157
02:47:24,060 --> 02:47:30,940
of fact, I've seen people going up through Bambary to get up to Chindon when Eagles backed

2158
02:47:30,940 --> 02:47:37,260
up. So I applaud the city for working with the developers and making that happen. I think

2159
02:47:37,260 --> 02:47:44,580
We could probably do the same thing or similar in this and it would make everybody a lot happier

2160
02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:51,880
and the ACHD a lot happier because that would be a lot less wear and tear on the small

2161
02:47:51,880 --> 02:47:54,220
road that's been talked about for the last hour.

2162
02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:59,160
So I don't have any more time to yield, so that's all I had.

2163
02:47:59,520 --> 02:48:00,480
Well, thank you, dude.

2164
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:01,620
Thank you.

2165
02:48:02,580 --> 02:48:03,480
All right, just been

2166
02:48:13,110 --> 02:48:14,330
good evening.

2167
02:48:14,330 --> 02:48:22,410
I'm Kimberly Taram at 1744 South Isla Delrio Way and I know we've heard a lot about safety and I

2168
02:48:22,410 --> 02:48:29,010
just wanted to make a quick point is that those of us with children on school buses that

2169
02:48:29,010 --> 02:48:34,110
Island Woods is where all those kids line up to go to on the bus and the buses are often

2170
02:48:34,110 --> 02:48:40,490
late and we struggle with getting our kids to school on time as it is already and I believe

2171
02:48:40,490 --> 02:48:44,870
give if I understand correctly that traffic study was done when school was not in session.

2172
02:48:45,370 --> 02:48:52,010
So I imagine that that also has an impact on traffic, but my concern is the heavy equipment

2173
02:48:52,490 --> 02:48:56,450
going up and down that road, not only for the safety of all the children that are standing

2174
02:48:56,450 --> 02:49:00,730
on the side of the road, but just to be able to get to school on time when the buses are

2175
02:49:00,730 --> 02:49:04,250
late and if they're stuck behind these construction equipment.

2176
02:49:04,730 --> 02:49:08,070
So I have personal concerns with that and I know other parents do as well.

2177
02:49:08,390 --> 02:49:09,090
Thank you for your time.

2178
02:49:09,090 --> 02:49:12,430
Thank you for coming. Right? Who else, I guess me?

2179
02:49:23,080 --> 02:49:25,360
Hi, my name is Diana Sloan,

2180
02:49:25,760 --> 02:49:28,940
one nine five East Trail side.

2181
02:49:30,380 --> 02:49:32,080
Drive, I don't know it's.

2182
02:49:34,060 --> 02:49:36,560
I'm just going to read a few excerpts from the letter

2183
02:49:36,560 --> 02:49:41,240
that I had sent the mayor a previous week, not this week.

2184
02:49:42,060 --> 02:49:44,580
And it does address a certain issue

2185
02:49:44,580 --> 02:49:46,440
that people haven't mentioned,

2186
02:49:46,980 --> 02:49:48,840
so it's something new to think about.

2187
02:49:50,020 --> 02:49:54,000
We know growth is going to happen, and that is not the issue.

2188
02:49:54,560 --> 02:49:57,180
The issue is how the growth is being managed.

2189
02:49:57,840 --> 02:49:59,980
And that's where most definitely the...

2190
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,740
Legal planning and zoning department are failing. I don't think it's without reason that when a developer

2191
02:50:05,740 --> 02:50:13,460
wants approval to build in an area that community concessions are expected. It shouldn't

2192
02:50:13,460 --> 02:50:19,940
just be about the developer's profits versus eagles growth. It should be what benefits will

2193
02:50:19,940 --> 02:50:26,380
our community gain along with the developer's bottom line. Which brings me to the question.

2194
02:50:27,100 --> 02:50:29,140
And this might be my ignorance.

2195
02:50:29,900 --> 02:50:37,640
Why can't the developer be held responsible for costs of another entrance or contribute a fair amount of costs to the city?

2196
02:50:38,560 --> 02:50:42,260
What's the real reason and alternative exit isn't being considered?

2197
02:50:43,440 --> 02:50:51,380
If approve the developer will pocket their profits and they will be leaving the community to deal with safety concerns,

2198
02:50:51,380 --> 02:50:57,880
as well as traffic issues while at the same time contributing to already congested Eagle Road,

2199
02:50:58,420 --> 02:51:00,820
which is a main thoroughfare in Idaho.

2200
02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:08,760
That's why it is important that the City Council and Planning and Zoning Department listen

2201
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:10,940
to what the homeowners are saying.

2202
02:51:11,500 --> 02:51:14,780
Growth shouldn't be about packing and houses and apartments.

2203
02:51:15,660 --> 02:51:20,340
Growth should be about what makes Eagle a great place to live and making sure that while

2204
02:51:20,340 --> 02:51:25,140
Our city is growing, what we love about our city is growing too.

2205
02:51:25,800 --> 02:51:31,080
Mr. Mayor, I'm not against the expansion of the island woods, rivers in William's

2206
02:51:31,080 --> 02:51:35,420
ranch community, but I am against this proposal as it is written.

2207
02:51:35,980 --> 02:51:41,000
When I spoke to the fire marshal regarding the fire fuel along the river that runs parallel

2208
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:47,340
behind all these neighborhoods and he replied and I quote, the likelihood of a fire along

2209
02:51:47,340 --> 02:51:56,260
that area is very low. I wasn't reassured. I personally have evacuated from a small town

2210
02:51:56,260 --> 02:52:03,360
surrounded by fire where the town was left with one exit. And I believe the fire department

2211
02:52:04,100 --> 02:52:09,120
possibly City Council and planning and zoning department are not considering that while the

2212
02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:14,540
fire trucks will get into this neighborhood. Over a thousand people in cars keeping in my most

2213
02:52:14,540 --> 02:52:17,820
people will probably be exiting with two cars for family.

2214
02:52:20,140 --> 02:52:24,840
We'll have to deal with the vacuuming out one exit onto a very busy

2215
02:52:24,840 --> 02:52:32,800
eagle road, while dealing with panicking drivers exiting out that same exit.

2216
02:52:34,300 --> 02:52:35,500
Anybody want to check out my only one?

2217
02:52:35,500 --> 02:52:36,260
I have one more paragraph.

2218
02:52:36,740 --> 02:52:38,160
Just finish up real quick.

2219
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:44,060
On the other hand, and alternative exit would not only benefit

2220
02:52:44,060 --> 02:52:49,240
equal by redirecting some of the traffic from Eagle Road, it would also benefit Eagle

2221
02:52:49,240 --> 02:52:54,840
citizens in the event of an emergency. Let's be honest, it's not about evacuating a fire

2222
02:52:54,840 --> 02:53:02,020
or even flooding happens. It's about wind, because even the fire marshal could not say it would never

2223
02:53:02,020 --> 02:53:09,400
happen. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you for your comments. Okay, yes, sir.

2224
02:53:09,400 --> 02:53:09,940
on

2225
02:53:16,310 --> 02:53:23,330
a rural council, Mr. Mayor, Chuck Lano, 1763, South Lago, and Williamson River Ranch.

2226
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:33,570
As you heard, our first person testifying tonight wrote into the record, the petition letter,

2227
02:53:34,730 --> 02:53:38,050
Williamson River Ranch was going to present to this body tonight.

2228
02:53:38,050 --> 02:53:45,810
If procedures allow, I'd like to actually give you all a copy of these letters.

2229
02:53:46,570 --> 02:53:50,870
I think we have that image of that as for legal advice on this one.

2230
02:53:51,670 --> 02:53:54,110
We've already received a packet.

2231
02:53:54,270 --> 02:53:59,050
He's wanting to submit something additional, but we're past that correct.

2232
02:53:59,470 --> 02:54:00,190
That is correct.

2233
02:54:00,390 --> 02:54:01,610
It's redundant in the rules.

2234
02:54:03,130 --> 02:54:06,390
We believe that one that's from another H.O.A.

2235
02:54:06,390 --> 02:54:08,250
will answer the number of a ranch.

2236
02:54:08,510 --> 02:54:11,990
Never the less the rules, Mr. Mayor, Council members.

2237
02:54:12,510 --> 02:54:17,370
The rules do apply and you would have to go through the same formal process, put them

2238
02:54:17,370 --> 02:54:19,130
into the record that way.

2239
02:54:20,530 --> 02:54:24,730
You would have to, if I get this right, you'd have to read it into the record, you'd have

2240
02:54:24,730 --> 02:54:29,130
to ask for somebody to help relinquish their three minutes so you can get the whole six minutes

2241
02:54:29,130 --> 02:54:32,670
to read the letter was read into the record by our first presenter.

2242
02:54:33,430 --> 02:54:35,070
Yeah, then you're fine with that.

2243
02:54:35,430 --> 02:54:36,630
Yeah, so it's just the.

2244
02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:39,630
Yeah, we don't. It's on record, so we have it.

2245
02:54:39,690 --> 02:54:40,330
Okay. We have it.

2246
02:54:40,410 --> 02:54:40,610
Okay.

2247
02:54:40,850 --> 02:54:43,050
That's what our clerk would be translating.

2248
02:54:43,490 --> 02:54:46,930
So we just want to sign from that.

2249
02:54:47,550 --> 02:54:51,390
As long as the, you know, it's discretionary as far as, I mean, it was read in the record.

2250
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:53,730
So I would say go ahead and submit it to the clerk.

2251
02:54:53,890 --> 02:54:56,270
Rainbow will disseminate it later for.

2252
02:54:57,030 --> 02:54:57,170
Excellent.

2253
02:54:57,450 --> 02:54:57,670
Okay.

2254
02:55:01,170 --> 02:55:13,170
Okay. Thank you. And just to reiterate, we have really no problem with the willings and struggles with the sustaining of the ranch or their efforts to move forward.

2255
02:55:13,450 --> 02:55:23,350
We just asked that it breaks, be tapped a little bit on the development until a hard and fast easements are secured for potential secondary.

2256
02:55:26,630 --> 02:55:27,510
Thank you.

2257
02:55:27,530 --> 02:55:27,990
All right, thank you.

2258
02:55:28,070 --> 02:55:28,570
All right, thank you, Chuck.

2259
02:55:31,330 --> 02:55:31,570
All right.

2260
02:55:32,130 --> 02:55:32,250
Yes,

2261
02:55:35,940 --> 02:55:37,820
back rows, the hands are kind of shorts.

2262
02:55:39,160 --> 02:55:40,560
I'll try to sit up higher.

2263
02:55:49,790 --> 02:55:50,370
Hi there.

2264
02:55:51,390 --> 02:55:54,230
Joanne Sarich, 1242 South Gosslingway.

2265
02:55:55,490 --> 02:55:58,230
I like that there's a fellow mom that came up here,

2266
02:55:58,870 --> 02:56:01,610
because I echo a lot of the sentiments that she spoke of.

2267
02:56:01,830 --> 02:56:03,350
One of the things being is,

2268
02:56:03,690 --> 02:56:05,310
where are these kids going to go to school?

2269
02:56:05,990 --> 02:56:11,890
So, the annexation of Adam or, and yes, I do know that there's a school there now, but we also know that

2270
02:56:12,450 --> 02:56:17,970
Dry Creek Ranch was supposed to have a school, and they do not. They haven't even broke ground yet.

2271
02:56:18,490 --> 02:56:27,710
So, all those kids are funneling into our public school system. Not to mention, my kids go to a public school in our town,

2272
02:56:27,710 --> 02:56:39,390
our neighborhood and the school bus that runs in Williamson and it rivers and islands woods takes

2273
02:56:39,390 --> 02:56:46,130
over an hour to get our kindergartens to our house. Our first graders to our home, second, third,

2274
02:56:46,130 --> 02:56:53,260
fourth and fifth. I don't understand how that takes so long. I think a lot of paths to do what there's

2275
02:56:53,260 --> 02:57:00,520
kids in the neighborhood that go out to different areas, different schools, with 108 new homes coming

2276
02:57:00,520 --> 02:57:06,440
into Williamson. These are all things that we need to think about, is our children. Where

2277
02:57:06,440 --> 02:57:10,920
are they going to go to school, and how much longer is it going to take them to get home? There's

2278
02:57:10,920 --> 02:57:16,160
a group of moms in Williamson and Rivers Ended in Eagle. I mean, and in Island Woods, we actually

2279
02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:23,240
got together. And we actually entertain the idea of paying a shuttle to pick our kids up to

2280
02:57:23,240 --> 02:57:30,700
from just so we can get them at our house at a decent hour from a school that is 1.6 miles away.

2281
02:57:31,520 --> 02:57:36,560
This should not be happening. And I just want to be clear. I'm out of, you want to sell off your land.

2282
02:57:37,060 --> 02:57:41,220
It's yours. This is United States of America. It's a beautiful thing. Have at it.

2283
02:57:41,440 --> 02:57:46,680
But these types of things need to be considered. And you have to do diligence to be neighborly about it.

2284
02:57:46,680 --> 02:57:50,780
And think of your neighbors while doing so. And these are all the things you need to consider.

2285
02:57:50,780 --> 02:57:56,040
And with this current situation in place, I think we're definitely putting the cart before the horse,

2286
02:57:56,520 --> 02:57:58,660
before we add more homes into the mix.

2287
02:57:59,820 --> 02:58:00,280
Thank you.

2288
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:00,700
All right.

2289
02:58:00,820 --> 02:58:01,280
Thank you for coming.

2290
02:58:04,040 --> 02:58:04,180
All right.

2291
02:58:04,420 --> 02:58:05,220
Anybody else?

2292
02:58:05,440 --> 02:58:06,040
Yes, sir.

2293
02:58:13,310 --> 02:58:14,630
I'm June Williams and I'm 46.

2294
02:58:15,150 --> 02:58:16,030
These are representants.

2295
02:58:16,530 --> 02:58:16,690
Sorry.

2296
02:58:16,910 --> 02:58:17,910
I didn't hear your first name.

2297
02:58:18,170 --> 02:58:19,030
Gene Williams.

2298
02:58:21,550 --> 02:58:25,890
Thank you to Mayor Pike and City Council for hearing us out this evening.

2299
02:58:25,890 --> 02:58:36,910
My wife and I live in Riverside subdivision, and we're adjacent to Island Wood Strive, and we're directly impacted by the traffic that goes down Island Wood Strive.

2300
02:58:38,850 --> 02:58:46,030
One of the key things I'm worried about is the traffic analysis impact that was dated 824 or 2023.

2301
02:58:46,030 --> 02:58:53,550
I want to would strive, I want to carry 1683 vehicles per day, which exceeds the standard for

2302
02:58:53,550 --> 02:58:59,870
local street, assuming this test was done in the summer, which we did not get confirmed

2303
02:58:59,870 --> 02:59:04,090
when we were at the planning solution, but we were assuming it was basically in the day.

2304
02:59:04,970 --> 02:59:12,190
There was no school bus activity during that time, I had also did not account for the traffic

2305
02:59:12,190 --> 02:59:19,590
That has been added due to the development of Williamson Ranch between that time and the current time.

2306
02:59:20,290 --> 02:59:29,270
It also doesn't take into account the construction traffic that we would have in building the subdivision while it's going on.

2307
02:59:29,710 --> 02:59:37,050
So one of the things we'd like to see, or I'd like to see, is doing a new traffic study that takes us into account.

2308
02:59:37,050 --> 02:59:42,990
you see what the traffic is during a school year and not just a lower rate during the summer.

2309
02:59:44,770 --> 02:59:51,090
In addition to that, I think we need to understand how much time it takes and this has been brought

2310
02:59:51,090 --> 02:59:57,470
up several times before getting out on Eagle Road and emergency traffic during peak times.

2311
02:59:57,890 --> 03:00:00,010
That should be a part of the traffic study. So we need to...

2312
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:07,020
One of the definitively how much impact we're having and what that takes. We're all kind of guessing right now.

2313
03:00:07,100 --> 03:00:15,080
We really should have a study that says, during peat times, this is what the response time is for emergency services.

2314
03:00:15,080 --> 03:00:24,920
The second thing is the soon brought up quite a bit as the access road for emergency services.

2315
03:00:26,760 --> 03:00:35,770
And concern I have is the bridge specifically needs to be maintained in accordance to

2316
03:00:35,770 --> 03:00:41,450
S-H-T-O-H-B-17 per Idaho Fire Code, that's not been addressed.

2317
03:00:41,830 --> 03:00:48,370
We asked the Planning Commission a letter on this, and that was not addressed in the Planning

2318
03:00:48,370 --> 03:00:48,910
Commission.

2319
03:00:50,550 --> 03:01:00,790
Also, a signage on the bridge is at up to code, a single line stirring gravel who's going to

2320
03:01:00,790 --> 03:01:04,630
maintain that, how's that going to be maintained, who's going to maintain the bridge,

2321
03:01:04,630 --> 03:01:06,270
who's going to certify the bridge.

2322
03:01:06,810 --> 03:01:08,470
Now, often as it's going to be certified,

2323
03:01:09,850 --> 03:01:11,890
you have to, as a private road,

2324
03:01:12,010 --> 03:01:13,630
you don't have any of that in place.

2325
03:01:14,390 --> 03:01:18,450
Is there going to be a bond for maintaining that bridge?

2326
03:01:18,450 --> 03:01:20,690
Who's going to pay for all of that?

2327
03:01:21,870 --> 03:01:24,390
That'll ensure the road's not blocked

2328
03:01:24,910 --> 03:01:26,450
because it's a private road.

2329
03:01:27,470 --> 03:01:30,830
So I have a few other things, but that's the key things

2330
03:01:30,830 --> 03:01:32,030
that I wanted to bring up.

2331
03:01:32,310 --> 03:01:33,470
All right, well, I appreciate you for your time.

2332
03:01:33,470 --> 03:01:35,050
Yeah, thank you.

2333
03:01:35,630 --> 03:01:36,170
All right.

2334
03:01:36,470 --> 03:01:37,590
I think we're going to take a break.

2335
03:01:37,810 --> 03:01:39,490
We've been here for three hours already.

2336
03:01:39,670 --> 03:01:41,330
So we're going to take a 10 minute break.

2337
03:01:41,730 --> 03:01:43,610
So you can use the restroom or you're going to drink a water

2338
03:01:43,610 --> 03:01:44,070
or whatever.

2339
03:01:44,330 --> 03:01:48,270
And we'll be back at about hopefully 20 tell us that.

2340
03:01:55,660 --> 03:01:56,320
Okay, thanks.

2341
03:01:56,660 --> 03:01:57,300
We're going to continue.

2342
03:01:58,040 --> 03:02:00,480
Now we're still in the public testimony portion

2343
03:02:00,480 --> 03:02:04,720
to anybody else in the crowd like to speak on this.

2344
03:02:06,280 --> 03:02:07,860
I think everybody's probably spoken.

2345
03:02:09,220 --> 03:02:09,740
Okay, good.

2346
03:02:09,740 --> 03:02:17,860
We're going to move on to close the public testimony portion and ask for the applicant to come back up for rebuttal.

2347
03:02:28,800 --> 03:02:36,460
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members of Council. Stephanie Hopkins again. My address is 575 more of the discovery way in Voici.

2348
03:02:36,840 --> 03:02:41,980
Here representing the property owner. I really appreciate all the neighbors feedback.

2349
03:02:41,980 --> 03:02:46,860
this is stuff that we were aware of from the Planning and the Commission meeting and the

2350
03:02:46,860 --> 03:02:51,360
neighborhood meeting. It was brought up initially when we initially met with neighbors.

2351
03:02:53,640 --> 03:02:57,740
It's a really unique situation here. I think that this property has here all where there

2352
03:02:57,740 --> 03:03:04,400
aren't really a whole lot of options to procure secondary access. There's kind of

2353
03:03:05,480 --> 03:03:10,200
hampered in by private property. And so that puts us in this situation where we can't necessarily

2354
03:03:10,200 --> 03:03:16,260
just throw out another access to the West, South, or East, without getting approval from somebody.

2355
03:03:17,460 --> 03:03:22,140
We do have an opportunity, and I think we're making the best to the situation in the can,

2356
03:03:23,480 --> 03:03:29,400
to utilize the tools that we have. And right now, that is an access easement through the

2357
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:36,460
Idaho Materials and Construction Property, which would with this subdivision be recorded emergency

2358
03:03:36,460 --> 03:03:41,700
access easement through their property. Currently it's just an in easement that exists

2359
03:03:41,700 --> 03:03:46,320
that there was kind of a handshake deal and a letter that was approved with the Williamson River

2360
03:03:46,320 --> 03:03:50,040
at Ranch subdivision that allowed that to be used for emergency access.

2361
03:03:52,620 --> 03:03:54,740
We currently there are

2362
03:03:54,740 --> 03:04:00,440
390 homes that are without a recorded secondary access easement. The wilderness river subdivision,

2363
03:04:00,520 --> 03:04:03,940
a couple of folks had mentioned that they were wondering what the wilderness river subdivision

2364
03:04:03,940 --> 03:04:10,460
brings to them as residents, and I think that we provide the opportunity to actually have a record

2365
03:04:10,460 --> 03:04:16,700
of use in a place that would provide a secondary route if disaster struck or if something happens

2366
03:04:16,700 --> 03:04:23,220
that, you know, folks, an emergency vehicle needs to access from the other direction. This is just

2367
03:04:23,220 --> 03:04:27,440
for emergency access, so, you know, there would be still just one point of the access or

2368
03:04:27,440 --> 03:04:32,900
and grassy grass to Eagle Road, but that's how this entire area was contemplated initially.

2369
03:04:35,020 --> 03:04:41,180
The Wilderness River is also providing an easement on the south, which is to the city of

2370
03:04:41,180 --> 03:04:47,040
Boise's property, but should the city of Eagle be able to procure some kind of pedestrian bridge

2371
03:04:47,040 --> 03:04:53,800
or do something access-wise to the south? That's an option. Both the emergency access to the east and

2372
03:04:53,800 --> 03:04:56,860
access to the South won't happen without the wilderness river subdivision.

2373
03:04:57,440 --> 03:04:59,940
So I think that provides a unique opportunity for...

2374
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,660
The city to, you know, partner with a developer in a way that otherwise that needs not being met.

2375
03:05:07,580 --> 03:05:13,600
There were a couple of folks that mentioned traffic and, our traffic impacting analysis was done

2376
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:18,640
in August. I don't know how the school, I don't know how many children live in the subdivision

2377
03:05:18,640 --> 03:05:26,680
or how impactful that would be for school bus traffic or individual trips. But there were 80, 80 trips

2378
03:05:26,680 --> 03:05:34,360
observed during the AM peak hours and 107 observed during the PM peak hours. That's pretty consistent with what

2379
03:05:34,360 --> 03:05:42,900
Williamson ever ranch proposed and was approved with in 2016. So I think I hope I'm covering everything.

2380
03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:48,200
I think unfortunately there's not a whole lot that I can add. We've really tried to work the best we can with

2381
03:05:48,200 --> 03:05:55,100
the fire department to obtain their approval. They're comfortable and they you know reviewed the subdivision with

2382
03:05:55,100 --> 03:06:00,880
the mitigations that we're proposing, and as long as we follow the conditions of approval that

2383
03:06:00,880 --> 03:06:05,840
they have included, I think that they're they're in full approval that we would be meeting

2384
03:06:05,840 --> 03:06:12,480
their standards. So other than that, I guess I will stand for for the questions if you have them.

2385
03:06:13,260 --> 03:06:17,160
Thank you. All right. Thank you. Any questions on the rebuttal portion for the applicant?

2386
03:06:19,160 --> 03:06:24,940
Mr Mayer. Stephanie, if you could, I know in the documents that we received

2387
03:06:24,940 --> 03:06:35,440
in that were available to the public, the traffic impact and analysis mischaracterized the road as a local road, correct?

2388
03:06:35,440 --> 03:06:36,380
Yes, thank you.

2389
03:06:36,580 --> 03:06:41,600
So then ACHD, when they provided their report,

2390
03:06:44,670 --> 03:06:47,750
if you could expand on that a little bit for everyone here.

2391
03:06:47,750 --> 03:06:52,030
Absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Councilwoman Russell, for bringing that up action.

2392
03:06:52,030 --> 03:06:58,130
to touch on that too. So our traffic impact analysis did note that Island Woods is a function

2393
03:06:58,130 --> 03:07:05,950
classified as a residential local street from there's an area in which it kind of does a little

2394
03:07:05,950 --> 03:07:07,190
camper down.

2395
03:07:09,250 --> 03:07:13,130
And so after that point the traffic impact analysis was saying that that's a local roadway

2396
03:07:13,130 --> 03:07:18,530
the rest of the roadway is known as a collector. The ECHD reviewed that and actually noted that

2397
03:07:18,530 --> 03:07:23,270
have, and I do have a section from the staff report in my presentation if we want to pull it up,

2398
03:07:24,050 --> 03:07:31,070
but it's on page three, TIS findings, they do clarify that Island Woods Drive is actually,

2399
03:07:31,570 --> 03:07:36,810
I can just all read it. So although Island Woods Drive east of River Chase way is noted in the

2400
03:07:36,810 --> 03:07:42,130
TIA as a local street, Island Woods Drive is classified as a collector roadway as part of ACH

2401
03:07:42,130 --> 03:07:47,450
use action on Island Woods and River's end subdivisions. So when those subdivisions came through,

2402
03:07:47,450 --> 03:07:51,430
determined that the entire roadway would be classified as a collector roadway, which means

2403
03:07:51,430 --> 03:07:57,410
the average daily trips that that roadway can accommodate is 3,000. The average daily

2404
03:07:57,410 --> 03:08:03,370
trips that our subdivision wilderness river is for opposed to or is anticipated to carry

2405
03:08:03,370 --> 03:08:05,130
is 2,766.

2406
03:08:07,730 --> 03:08:16,730
So looking at the classification that way it does it's lower than what the

2407
03:08:18,550 --> 03:08:20,630
discrepancy there. Right. Thank you.

2408
03:08:21,530 --> 03:08:24,190
Yeah, the questions comments for the applicant.

2409
03:08:26,070 --> 03:08:26,970
Mr. Mayor. Yes.

2410
03:08:27,470 --> 03:08:33,530
Stephanie, one of the comments that was made through the public testimony was in regards to the easement who would take care of it.

2411
03:08:34,030 --> 03:08:39,230
The bridge asphalt road mix anything like that of that nature. Can you expand on that, too?

2412
03:08:39,550 --> 03:08:42,210
Absolutely. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, Councilwoman Gendelsberger.

2413
03:08:42,970 --> 03:08:56,190
Yes, the Department's letter, the site's specific conditions of approval require that the applicant or the HOA maintain the bridge and roadway, so that it's in passable condition and it's usable by the fire department.

2414
03:08:56,450 --> 03:08:59,610
So that's something that our client and the applicant is amenable to.

2415
03:09:00,290 --> 03:09:10,990
I think that as we would go through any agreements with the fire department, we would want to include, so I mentioned earlier that we've been coordinating with the fire department on the verbage they'd like to see in that cross access

2416
03:09:10,990 --> 03:09:16,010
for the access agreement, we would work with them as well to see exactly how that is going

2417
03:09:16,010 --> 03:09:19,750
to be administered and if it needs to be in the CCNRs, or if it's going to be included in

2418
03:09:19,750 --> 03:09:20,630
the East Minigriment.

2419
03:09:22,030 --> 03:09:22,230
Thanks, Stephanie.

2420
03:09:22,330 --> 03:09:23,570
Thank you.

2421
03:09:24,350 --> 03:09:24,510
Mr. Mayor.

2422
03:09:24,510 --> 03:09:24,970
Just for me.

2423
03:09:25,510 --> 03:09:26,270
Mr. Mayor.

2424
03:09:27,270 --> 03:09:32,270
As far as the bridge goes, how would you structure that financially?

2425
03:09:32,570 --> 03:09:36,830
That's a heavy lift for an HOA, Rosa Expensive, Bridges are even more expensive.

2426
03:09:37,310 --> 03:09:43,290
And so with that be, there was a gentleman that came up to testify and he mentioned a bond.

2427
03:09:44,410 --> 03:09:46,750
You would have to have a sizable reserve account.

2428
03:09:47,030 --> 03:09:50,490
So what's your thought process on that whole part of it?

2429
03:09:50,630 --> 03:09:54,230
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilwoman May.

2430
03:09:54,730 --> 03:09:58,890
I think we would need to look at that with our client as well as the fire department.

2431
03:09:59,010 --> 03:09:59,910
And then I am seated.

2432
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:11,840
It's exactly what the road condition is currently and what would need to happen to bring it up to what their standards are to determine how it might need to be maintained and what the funding mechanism would be going forward.

2433
03:10:12,660 --> 03:10:21,420
I think all the options would probably be on the tables, as far as whether they wanted, if it was a sizable amount, it might make sense to do a bond or have some kind of trust in place.

2434
03:10:22,440 --> 03:10:28,620
But I agree with you, that might be a lift depending on what the fire department needs and what the current condition is.

2435
03:10:28,620 --> 03:10:32,880
Road maintenance is a it's a heavy lift especially for an HOA.

2436
03:10:32,880 --> 03:10:38,360
Absolutely. So that that's something that would definitely need to be really thought out really well.

2437
03:10:38,380 --> 03:10:40,620
I agree. Thank you. Thank you.

2438
03:10:41,300 --> 03:10:44,600
Okay you have to thoughts or comments for Mr. Mayor.

2439
03:10:45,420 --> 03:10:51,120
On the putting buildings on the head of Eagle Island.

2440
03:10:53,180 --> 03:10:56,380
Where the compound wants that to be kept open.

2441
03:10:57,340 --> 03:10:59,600
I'm kind of interested in the rationale on that.

2442
03:11:00,180 --> 03:11:02,620
Why are we going to go against the current plan on that one?

2443
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:09,580
Mr. Mayor, Councilman Kwame, we work with staff of Fairmount on this initially when we

2444
03:11:09,580 --> 03:11:14,960
first started to meet with them and I think the head of Eagle Island was not necessarily

2445
03:11:14,960 --> 03:11:19,640
located specifically in this location, it was just a convenience spot to place it.

2446
03:11:19,640 --> 03:11:23,760
This isn't staff's word, this is my interpretation of maybe what happened but it was a convenient

2447
03:11:23,760 --> 03:11:41,100
place to place it within the future land use map. And so our interpretation of how that should be applied is to preserve areas where we can, based on where it is, where there are naturally sensitive areas, which is the intention of the head of Eagle Island, floodway and flood plain and then other

2448
03:11:41,100 --> 03:11:48,460
environmental sensitive areas, rather than just specifically drawing a line and saying no development there.

2449
03:11:48,460 --> 03:11:50,540
Okay, thank you.

2450
03:11:50,640 --> 03:11:51,120
Thank you.

2451
03:11:54,140 --> 03:11:54,340
Mayor.

2452
03:11:54,980 --> 03:11:56,820
It's definitely another question.

2453
03:11:58,660 --> 03:12:02,660
There was also concerns that these easements may not happen.

2454
03:12:03,820 --> 03:12:07,940
That there will be nothing concrete.

2455
03:12:08,560 --> 03:12:11,420
Can you speak to that concern and worry?

2456
03:12:11,740 --> 03:12:13,120
Mr. Mayor, Councilman Russell.

2457
03:12:13,940 --> 03:12:15,760
I was the access easements for their emergency.

2458
03:12:16,800 --> 03:12:27,120
So essentially I mean I've had a couple conversations with Scott Buck at this point and we will not receive any kind of approval on a final plot before we received before we actually show them a recorded document

2459
03:12:27,120 --> 03:12:33,360
That the easements have been finalized so that's that's kind of the hard stop there.

2460
03:12:33,860 --> 03:12:41,760
Okay, thank you just so everyone knows that the development will not happen unless exactly that's completed. Okay, thank you.

2461
03:12:44,520 --> 03:12:47,760
Yeah, there are thoughts or comments for the applicant.

2462
03:12:51,090 --> 03:12:51,330
All right, Stephanie.

2463
03:12:51,710 --> 03:12:52,090
Thank you.

2464
03:12:52,130 --> 03:12:52,930
Thank you.

2465
03:12:53,330 --> 03:12:53,670
All right.

2466
03:12:54,390 --> 03:12:59,070
Go ahead and close the public hearing and now bring it back to this council for consideration,

2467
03:12:59,930 --> 03:13:01,250
discussion, and maybe a motion.

2468
03:13:03,370 --> 03:13:07,050
Mr. Mayor, if I may speak with Mr. Williams for a moment.

2469
03:13:19,030 --> 03:13:20,610
Mr. Mayor, Councilman, we're getting those bigger.

2470
03:13:20,990 --> 03:13:23,150
Just wanted to talk through with you.

2471
03:13:23,210 --> 03:13:28,430
Should this annexation not occur with the next path for this development?

2472
03:13:28,430 --> 03:13:33,450
could it be to go to Boise, doesn't go back to A to County, what's the plan B?

2473
03:13:35,560 --> 03:13:39,560
There are options. I'll use what we always hear from Victor at the PANs.

2474
03:13:41,400 --> 03:13:47,500
A portion of this site roughly 45 acres is recognized in the city of Boise's comprehensive plan,

2475
03:13:47,640 --> 03:13:54,440
and it takes in all of the middle of this development, with the exception of the little pieces,

2476
03:13:54,440 --> 03:14:00,060
which is the head of Eagle Island, and then to the west of that is where the Wiemson's

2477
03:14:00,060 --> 03:14:04,820
residence is, and there's some additional acreage in there, probably right around 30 acres.

2478
03:14:06,200 --> 03:14:09,200
The city of Boisey is contiguous to this property.

2479
03:14:09,400 --> 03:14:15,420
The wastewater treatment plant is zoned in Deskrill 2, I believe, and it's right across the river,

2480
03:14:15,720 --> 03:14:18,880
so therefore it is contiguous to the city of Boisey.

2481
03:14:19,840 --> 03:14:24,420
Our agreement, basically, they're allowing the city of Eagle, as part of that

2482
03:14:24,420 --> 03:14:30,360
agreement to develop this property because the city voice you really has no access other than being

2483
03:14:30,360 --> 03:14:36,100
contiguous to the property and all the access will come through even though it's in the

2484
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:40,700
city vehicle there will be a cross-ACHD roads. Thanks Mike.

2485
03:14:48,940 --> 03:14:53,040
Other thoughts or comments? Mr. Mayor.

2486
03:14:54,120 --> 03:15:00,000
I have a lot of questions and concerns that I had jotted down today but listening to the

2487
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:07,120
Laborhood is clear that and rightfully so the egress is first and foremost on everybody's mind.

2488
03:15:09,540 --> 03:15:16,080
If this development goes forward, that's going to be four subdivisions in there with one road coming out.

2489
03:15:17,300 --> 03:15:23,020
I live in a subdivision that connects to the one next to me and then the one after that. So we've got three subdivisions there.

2490
03:15:23,020 --> 03:15:27,720
when we have seven access points in and out.

2491
03:15:28,600 --> 03:15:31,540
So it kind of defies comprehension

2492
03:15:31,540 --> 03:15:35,600
that you've got four and they have this single road out.

2493
03:15:37,120 --> 03:15:40,120
And I applaud Stephanie with her plan.

2494
03:15:40,380 --> 03:15:42,760
I know you're, I can hear your passion there.

2495
03:15:44,320 --> 03:15:46,280
But safety first.

2496
03:15:46,720 --> 03:15:49,520
So that's the big sticking point for me here.

2497
03:15:50,100 --> 03:15:52,360
There were suggestions made, a road trust.

2498
03:15:52,360 --> 03:15:55,180
those are always viable options, but they take time.

2499
03:15:55,620 --> 03:15:57,740
It's not something that you're going to put together today

2500
03:15:57,740 --> 03:15:59,500
and have a road built tomorrow.

2501
03:16:00,920 --> 03:16:02,780
So, unfortunately, sometimes government moves

2502
03:16:02,780 --> 03:16:03,900
at the speed of slow.

2503
03:16:04,640 --> 03:16:08,340
But there are options, but I just don't think right now

2504
03:16:08,340 --> 03:16:11,580
and there's a lot to be considered with the emergency

2505
03:16:11,580 --> 03:16:14,520
access coming in, with the bridge and the road maintenance

2506
03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:16,720
having the HOA take that on.

2507
03:16:17,120 --> 03:16:19,760
There's a lot of good ideas here, but I just don't think

2508
03:16:19,760 --> 03:16:21,360
everything's been flushed out.

2509
03:16:21,360 --> 03:16:27,860
and certainly I think we need to be really, really cognizant of the safety issue here.

2510
03:16:28,740 --> 03:16:33,280
That's a lot of people there, if there's an incident, you're creating a single choke point

2511
03:16:33,280 --> 03:16:34,880
in my mind, just my impression.

2512
03:16:37,620 --> 03:16:42,280
And my big concern is if there was another event, you know, two rivers.

2513
03:16:42,540 --> 03:16:43,440
It's not really two rivers.

2514
03:16:43,440 --> 03:16:45,940
It's one river and they're renowned again, they come back together.

2515
03:16:46,120 --> 03:16:46,980
So we've all seen that.

2516
03:16:46,980 --> 03:16:47,860
We know floods happen.

2517
03:16:47,860 --> 03:16:49,340
and we had snowmageddon.

2518
03:16:49,920 --> 03:16:51,460
You've got school buses coming in and out.

2519
03:16:51,560 --> 03:16:53,700
If there's a subdivision that's going to be

2520
03:16:53,700 --> 03:16:55,320
built, you're going to have heavy construction

2521
03:16:55,320 --> 03:16:56,980
equipment coming back and forth.

2522
03:16:57,680 --> 03:16:58,960
So there's just a lot to consider

2523
03:16:58,960 --> 03:17:00,560
and you're all using the same road.

2524
03:17:00,620 --> 03:17:02,680
So that's my big concern right there

2525
03:17:02,680 --> 03:17:07,140
that something would need to be done to address the egress.

2526
03:17:10,500 --> 03:17:11,700
So might do thoughts.

2527
03:17:13,360 --> 03:17:14,540
Mike, will you come back up?

2528
03:17:14,540 --> 03:17:15,780
I got a question for you.

2529
03:17:15,820 --> 03:17:18,460
You just said something about Boise, city Boise.

2530
03:17:18,460 --> 03:17:23,400
I just want to have some confirmation on the contiguous portion of that, does that?

2531
03:17:24,420 --> 03:17:28,980
It's because it's, we're annexing it into the city of Eagle if it got developed through.

2532
03:17:30,240 --> 03:17:41,340
Finish off the thought on the options, because I think we kind of stopped short of what could happen if this application gets denied.

2533
03:17:41,340 --> 03:17:52,640
could they go back to Boise, could they go directly to Ian Accounting and fill out a whole new application with them and then go from that perspective.

2534
03:17:53,520 --> 03:18:02,180
I mean, I'm a little concerned with, I don't think we've answered all those questions yet in terms of that because I could see.

2535
03:18:02,900 --> 03:18:11,080
I have these little radars going off and of course my public safety thing is I'm trying to be unbiased to my opinion on that.

2536
03:18:11,080 --> 03:18:13,040
So I'm looking at that from other connections.

2537
03:18:15,060 --> 03:18:17,820
Mr. Mayor, and you just drew the added twist.

2538
03:18:18,300 --> 03:18:20,340
And I should have addressed this with Councilman

2539
03:18:20,340 --> 03:18:21,900
and Regendals Burger question.

2540
03:18:23,220 --> 03:18:26,680
Boise cities, comp, and only covers a portion of the site.

2541
03:18:27,320 --> 03:18:29,200
So actually, based on our comprehensive plan,

2542
03:18:29,240 --> 03:18:31,560
our area of impact agreements and everything else,

2543
03:18:31,780 --> 03:18:33,120
and our agreement with Boise city,

2544
03:18:33,940 --> 03:18:36,640
they really only have access to a portion of that site.

2545
03:18:36,860 --> 03:18:40,220
What's on each side of what their comprehensive plan

2546
03:18:41,820 --> 03:18:50,560
Do you want to pull up the map real quick and just kind of I would think the citizens to have a visual as well because I think this is

2547
03:18:50,560 --> 03:18:54,940
imperative that we really see this for what it's worth.

2548
03:18:55,980 --> 03:18:59,080
As he's pulling up the map, what you brought up?

2549
03:18:59,980 --> 03:19:00,700
A to county.

2550
03:19:01,800 --> 03:19:08,620
A to county as we well know, based on our competency plans and our competency plan, our area of impact agreements,

2551
03:19:08,620 --> 03:19:15,040
They could apply 2A to county to bring a development through based on our

2552
03:19:15,040 --> 03:19:16,140
comprehensive plans.

2553
03:19:16,840 --> 03:19:20,720
The problem with that, if they bring it through based on our comprehensive plans,

2554
03:19:23,300 --> 03:19:23,900
if

2555
03:19:23,900 --> 03:19:29,460
that were to be approved through a county, they use their code to implement everything

2556
03:19:29,460 --> 03:19:30,940
that's taking place.

2557
03:19:32,640 --> 03:19:35,620
It's our conference plan, but it's their code, not our code.

2558
03:19:35,620 --> 03:19:38,800
Our codes are set up to implement our plans.

2559
03:19:45,510 --> 03:19:54,250
And if you just walk us through this noisy portion, okay, where there, this is a wastewater treatment plant.

2560
03:19:54,630 --> 03:19:57,790
It is all located within the city of Boise.

2561
03:19:57,870 --> 03:19:59,970
It is zoned by the city of Boise.

2562
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:12,320
So, it's contiguous to write across the river to the subject property. And you can't annex across the river, it's just like annexing the cross the street.

2563
03:20:12,980 --> 03:20:28,340
The head of Eagle Island, this nine acre parcel here, nine point six, five acre parcel here, is recognized by our compound. And in these two parcels to the west, are recognized by our compound as neighborhood residential.

2564
03:20:28,340 --> 03:20:30,680
This is actually recognized by our

2565
03:20:30,680 --> 03:20:33,100
company as well, this 44 acres here,

2566
03:20:33,340 --> 03:20:35,360
but it's also recognized by the city

2567
03:20:35,360 --> 03:20:36,880
of Boisey Comprehensive Plan.

2568
03:20:38,260 --> 03:20:40,300
So if a county, if they were to apply to a

2569
03:20:40,300 --> 03:20:42,760
county, they're going to take in two

2570
03:20:42,760 --> 03:20:46,080
comprehensive plans into consideration.

2571
03:20:46,080 --> 03:20:48,400
They'll take our comprehensive plan and the

2572
03:20:48,400 --> 03:20:50,260
city of Boisey's comprehensive plan,

2573
03:20:50,420 --> 03:20:52,560
because our area of impact agreement

2574
03:20:52,560 --> 03:20:55,880
does not recognize our agreement with the

2575
03:20:55,880 --> 03:21:02,860
of Boise for the 45 acres that's in the middle of this development are this proposal.

2576
03:21:06,720 --> 03:21:10,320
So yes, they would have the opportunity to submit the application to aid accounting.

2577
03:21:10,420 --> 03:21:16,140
And do we have a ballpark density for Boise that they've already, do we know what their

2578
03:21:16,140 --> 03:21:19,440
density, this is 1.2 or per acre?

2579
03:21:19,700 --> 03:21:25,820
The ballpark density Mr. Mayor for Boise was a low density and their low density was

2580
03:21:25,820 --> 03:21:29,700
somewhere to what our density is designated on this map.

2581
03:21:30,980 --> 03:21:31,340
That correct.

2582
03:21:31,340 --> 03:21:33,800
That's why I make sure all the questions have been answered.

2583
03:21:38,380 --> 03:21:41,120
Nicole probably has additional information for Boise City.

2584
03:21:41,700 --> 03:21:45,060
Nicole, come on up and give comments to that then.

2585
03:21:53,730 --> 03:21:54,850
Good evening, Mayor.

2586
03:21:55,070 --> 03:21:55,130
Hansel.

2587
03:21:55,290 --> 03:21:55,450
Nicole.

2588
03:21:55,690 --> 03:22:03,470
Good evening, Mayor.

2589
03:22:03,470 --> 03:22:03,670
Hansel.

2590
03:22:03,670 --> 03:22:03,850
Nicole.

2591
03:22:03,850 --> 03:22:06,710
Good evening, Mayor.

2592
03:22:06,870 --> 03:22:07,230
Hansel.

2593
03:22:07,230 --> 03:22:11,150
within their city code, and we would need to go back

2594
03:22:11,150 --> 03:22:13,330
and see how that looks today there.

2595
03:22:13,730 --> 03:22:15,170
It would at least be this.

2596
03:22:15,390 --> 03:22:17,770
It could be more now that Boise City

2597
03:22:17,770 --> 03:22:19,830
has done some additional zoning updates

2598
03:22:19,830 --> 03:22:21,450
that were just adopted last year.

2599
03:22:21,610 --> 03:22:24,190
I just, we have not compared that.

2600
03:22:24,410 --> 03:22:25,870
Because I'd like to see the comparison

2601
03:22:25,870 --> 03:22:28,590
of Boise, Eagle, and County.

2602
03:22:29,130 --> 03:22:30,770
And I think, because there's really three entities

2603
03:22:30,770 --> 03:22:34,190
that have a potential down to some base and off our top

2604
03:22:34,190 --> 03:22:35,170
part of this?

2605
03:22:35,370 --> 03:22:38,590
Yeah. Well, no. That would be some of Boise City's

2606
03:22:38,590 --> 03:22:45,810
complain. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. So we can do that work for you with the current

2607
03:22:45,810 --> 03:22:53,870
zoning's RP. To get out of the RP zoning in 80 county to get to 5 acre minimum. So RPs

2608
03:22:54,570 --> 03:23:00,570
that 48 acre minimum to get to a 10 acre minimum, sorry. They would need to have sewer and water

2609
03:23:00,570 --> 03:23:05,790
provided and be in a fire district. I think they could make that agreement. Now, as to

2610
03:23:05,790 --> 03:23:09,630
comparison to Boise City code, we would have to go back and look at what their

2611
03:23:09,630 --> 03:23:15,970
comp plan compatibility is to underlying zoning today. Just because it has changed since

2612
03:23:15,970 --> 03:23:19,570
we entered into this agreement with them. It may not have affected this area. I just don't

2613
03:23:19,570 --> 03:23:21,190
have a very answer to them at this point.

2614
03:23:23,050 --> 03:23:32,970
And I don't want to speak for council, but I'm concerned with what all of those answers are, just at my own curiosity.

2615
03:23:34,330 --> 03:23:37,370
So, any other questions for Mike or thoughts?

2616
03:23:41,860 --> 03:23:47,480
My question on the emergency egress.

2617
03:23:48,180 --> 03:23:55,580
And I don't know if this would be for you or Stephanie, but would residents be able to use that emergency egress in an emergency.

2618
03:23:57,460 --> 03:24:04,160
Mr. Mayor and Council Member Russell, Stephanie and I have had this conversation more than once.

2619
03:24:04,720 --> 03:24:12,760
I've had the conversation with Eagle Fire as well. At this time, what they're proposing with the agreement, it would be emergency access only.

2620
03:24:13,480 --> 03:24:22,620
I mean, with the Council's concern, if this were to be approved, it should work possibly if they can work this both ways to where they can use it for evacuation as well.

2621
03:24:23,860 --> 03:24:28,300
And we could include that as a condition of absolute approval.

2622
03:24:28,980 --> 03:24:28,980
Okay,

2623
03:24:34,620 --> 03:24:36,130
that's all I think I have.

2624
03:24:36,800 --> 03:24:38,040
Call me.

2625
03:24:39,160 --> 03:24:43,920
Question from Mike, a question that is setbacks.

2626
03:24:45,720 --> 03:24:50,000
You're requesting a waiver on the setbacks on the residents.

2627
03:24:50,760 --> 03:24:57,740
Mr. Mayor, Councilman, call me as correct or requesting 5 feet on a rare belief, 10 feet

2628
03:24:57,740 --> 03:24:59,960
the front for the living area and two.

2629
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:12,980
I'm going to have feet on the sides. Okay, here's my question. Just because Williamson Ranch got that approval. Doesn't mean automatically that this proposal should get the setbacks way, right?

2630
03:25:15,420 --> 03:25:22,320
That's up to the council if they want to wave, allow for that waiver to occur. Okay. Thank you.

2631
03:25:27,460 --> 03:25:27,980
Mr. Mayor.

2632
03:25:27,980 --> 03:25:36,460
So Mike, the emergency access route, it's just a single road, single lane road right now.

2633
03:25:36,840 --> 03:25:43,040
Mr. Mayor and Councilmember May, single lane, but I believe that there's wits required

2634
03:25:43,040 --> 03:25:45,940
to allow for two vehicles to pass.

2635
03:25:46,580 --> 03:25:48,140
The final one is a fire truck.

2636
03:25:48,140 --> 03:25:55,160
Eagle fire, correct. Eagle fire will require that allows for in areas at least every, I believe

2637
03:25:55,160 --> 03:26:02,140
150 feet to allow two vehicles to pass side by side. That's an emergency issue for them.

2638
03:26:03,260 --> 03:26:04,120
I'll also believe.

2639
03:26:04,380 --> 03:26:11,220
No, I was just the concern about residents having to evacuate on the same road that you've got emergency vehicles

2640
03:26:11,220 --> 03:26:12,580
coming in on.

2641
03:26:12,580 --> 03:26:14,140
what the

2642
03:26:14,140 --> 03:26:17,420
and mid-ministering staff member may they would have to set that up

2643
03:26:17,420 --> 03:26:19,540
in areas to allow for two vehicles to pass.

2644
03:26:19,740 --> 03:26:21,040
So they would have to do some further.

2645
03:26:21,500 --> 03:26:22,580
Okay, thank you, Mike.

2646
03:26:28,890 --> 03:26:33,070
All right, it's still open for discussion and consideration comments or questions.

2647
03:26:35,320 --> 03:26:38,200
Mr. Mayor, I'll probably throw out some thoughts on this one.

2648
03:26:38,860 --> 03:26:40,240
What I like about this project

2649
03:26:41,060 --> 03:26:44,860
is I respect the property owner's rights to develop.

2650
03:26:44,860 --> 03:26:58,080
And in support of that, I like the density that they're proposing, a fairly low density of residential units, I like the percent of open space that they're providing.

2651
03:26:59,240 --> 03:27:05,940
What I don't like about it is, you know, this going again against the city ordinance on the setbacks.

2652
03:27:05,940 --> 03:27:07,020
I don't like that.

2653
03:27:07,340 --> 03:27:11,380
The building on the head of Eagle Island,

2654
03:27:11,700 --> 03:27:14,060
I was initially kind of worried about that,

2655
03:27:14,200 --> 03:27:16,340
but with the clarification that Stephanie provided

2656
03:27:16,340 --> 03:27:19,620
on the comeback, I'm okay with that.

2657
03:27:22,500 --> 03:27:26,280
And it seems like the overwhelming opposition

2658
03:27:26,280 --> 03:27:32,140
to this proposal has to do with the safety of the residents

2659
03:27:32,140 --> 03:27:37,460
in the four developments that are surrounding this proposal.

2660
03:27:38,880 --> 03:27:42,740
But that situation was not created by this new proposal.

2661
03:27:43,840 --> 03:27:46,720
It would compound on it, but it was not created by it.

2662
03:27:46,780 --> 03:27:51,120
Those worries and concerns were already there, as far as the traffic safety.

2663
03:27:52,160 --> 03:27:59,420
What I would like to see is if, and I don't know if this is appropriate or not, push to continue

2664
03:27:59,420 --> 03:28:06,040
this hearing out and give the Williams opportunity to try to get to with these other HOAs

2665
03:28:06,040 --> 03:28:11,860
and see if they can come up with a solution on this emergency exit situation that would

2666
03:28:11,860 --> 03:28:24,220
be acceptable to them. One recommendation by Mrs. Henry was that, you know, ACHD trust could

2667
03:28:24,220 --> 03:28:34,440
set up maybe a possibility of a community CID set up to improve that emergency exit road to

2668
03:28:34,440 --> 03:28:38,560
where it would be much safer for people to leave in an emergency if they had to and maybe

2669
03:28:38,560 --> 03:28:44,880
work with the ownership of the property and maybe they can loosen up the ability to use the road

2670
03:28:44,880 --> 03:28:50,540
for not only emergencies but other alternate routes to get off and get away from going through

2671
03:28:50,540 --> 03:28:59,780
in that situation. So I think that would be important for to have give them time to try

2672
03:28:59,780 --> 03:29:04,580
to work something out with the other HOAs. And the other thing I think is, I think it's

2673
03:29:04,580 --> 03:29:13,060
important is that new developments that are going to impact, I would drive, you know,

2674
03:29:13,240 --> 03:29:18,120
participate on a proportional amount of road maintenance because they're definitely going

2675
03:29:18,120 --> 03:29:22,380
increase on the traffic load on those roads that are going to need road maintenance per the

2676
03:29:22,380 --> 03:29:29,560
ACHD agreement. Namely, pavers. So those are my thoughts.

2677
03:29:31,360 --> 03:29:32,140
Okay, we'll continue.

2678
03:29:33,500 --> 03:29:49,380
Mr. Mayor. Craig, I do disagree on the getting the HOAs together to figure out the

2679
03:29:49,380 --> 03:29:58,080
with what Stephanie has proposed and the fact that we can put a specific condition in the approval

2680
03:29:58,080 --> 03:29:59,940
to where the development will be.

2681
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:05,140
We'll not happen if that egress road is not put into place and is also approved for evacuation

2682
03:30:05,140 --> 03:30:14,700
for residents. So I don't think any collaboration between the HOAs would make that go any faster.

2683
03:30:15,460 --> 03:30:24,810
I think I do agree that it's a wonderful development. I live in Mace River Ranch, which is right

2684
03:30:24,810 --> 03:30:33,110
across Eagle Road from Island Woods and during snowmigadden we only have one exit and we

2685
03:30:33,110 --> 03:30:38,530
were under flood watch for many, many months and it was a scary feeling but again I

2686
03:30:38,530 --> 03:30:44,950
choose to live on an island and so I'm aware of that although it's interesting I really

2687
03:30:44,950 --> 03:30:50,890
wasn't aware of that until snowmigadden I said I actually live on an island. Pretty crazy

2688
03:30:50,890 --> 03:30:59,710
me, and I've been here about 10 years, and I know that, for instance, two rivers, subdivision,

2689
03:31:00,290 --> 03:31:06,790
when Mace was being built, you know, Mace used to be one of the oldest farms in Eagle, and

2690
03:31:06,790 --> 03:31:13,990
we had the construction traffic that we created for the residents that live at two rivers

2691
03:31:13,990 --> 03:31:30,370
and the shores, and I'm sure that was a concern for them, but everyone made it through, and that's just a fact of allowing a property owner to develop their land as they should be able to.

2692
03:31:30,370 --> 03:31:38,290
I do certainly understand the concerns of the mothers with the children standing on the street waiting for the bus.

2693
03:31:38,290 --> 03:31:41,250
I see that on the corners of where I live,

2694
03:31:43,330 --> 03:31:48,870
and just we recently had the radar traffic counter

2695
03:31:48,870 --> 03:31:56,270
on Mace Road so that we could tell people, hey, slow down, you know, it's a 25 mile an hour

2696
03:31:56,270 --> 03:32:07,140
road, and I think perhaps there are some things that we can do to help the residents and sometimes

2697
03:32:07,140 --> 03:32:12,060
it's not those that live there, but it's those just passing through that that don't understand

2698
03:32:12,060 --> 03:32:16,440
that there are children in that they need to really pay attention whether it's children or

2699
03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:18,860
ducks crossing the road or whatever.

2700
03:32:21,020 --> 03:32:26,640
But I feel much more comfortable knowing that the developer

2701
03:32:27,980 --> 03:32:35,460
and that the city of Eagle can put limitations on the development that without the emergency

2702
03:32:35,460 --> 03:32:45,490
evacuation egress I would not feel like I could prove this

2703
03:32:49,840 --> 03:32:55,900
and then I just I have concerns

2704
03:32:55,900 --> 03:33:02,040
of the applicant being able to go to A to County and what would A to County get them.

2705
03:33:02,440 --> 03:33:10,480
I think Ego does it better than anyone else and so that's my fear if we do deny this

2706
03:33:10,480 --> 03:33:18,040
development that they can go to Ada County and I think we listen better. That's all I

2707
03:33:18,040 --> 03:33:26,000
have to say. Mr. Mayor. I agree that something would need to be done to allow the

2708
03:33:26,000 --> 03:33:33,120
residents to evacuate, but that's only in the event of flood or a fire or something like

2709
03:33:33,120 --> 03:33:39,460
that day to day, they're still all going out on the same road. And so I don't think we've

2710
03:33:39,460 --> 03:33:46,360
address that issue. And so it's like some of these things I think need to be in place before

2711
03:33:46,360 --> 03:33:55,160
they would move on with the development of that area because we need to address, you just can't build

2712
03:33:55,160 --> 03:33:59,420
a road overnight, you know, I think everybody agrees they need to have an additional road to get

2713
03:33:59,420 --> 03:34:05,960
them out of there. Maybe some sort of road trust could happen, you've got ACHD roads,

2714
03:34:09,440 --> 03:34:09,440
you've got

2715
03:34:10,220 --> 03:34:19,380
So, absence of those things, I would be unable to support this project at this time.

2716
03:34:19,420 --> 03:34:23,000
And I'm saying at this time, I just think some other things need to be in place.

2717
03:34:23,760 --> 03:34:32,940
And I just think if we're only thinking for the event and evacuating residents, we're not taking into account the immediate safety issue that's before us.

2718
03:34:32,940 --> 03:34:44,890
So those were my thoughts and so at this time I would not be able to support without a lot of other conditions in there.

2719
03:34:46,490 --> 03:34:48,850
Your turn. Mr. Mayor.

2720
03:34:49,630 --> 03:34:50,950
Excuse me.

2721
03:34:52,010 --> 03:34:59,170
I echo the same sediments from Councilman Russell and Kwameana on a few points as well, too.

2722
03:34:59,170 --> 03:34:59,970
My biggest concern.

2723
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:07,400
I have right now is the fact that if this development is denied, it does go to Boisey in A to County.

2724
03:35:08,920 --> 03:35:16,300
And the potential for this particular development, having the access easement that could be used for an emergency situation.

2725
03:35:17,000 --> 03:35:26,520
Potentially is in place because of the negotiation through staff, the city of Eagle, in the developer that may not be in existence with the city of Boisey.

2726
03:35:26,520 --> 03:35:34,660
I don't trust them for placing those kinds of conditions with on this property, so that is my biggest concern

2727
03:35:34,660 --> 03:35:41,100
is saying a lot of times the options are not just A and B, sometimes they're C, and if we go towards

2728
03:35:41,100 --> 03:35:50,180
the C route, what could potentially be putting ourselves in a predicament for. So I agree with you Councilwoman

2729
03:35:50,180 --> 03:35:54,200
made that the egress issue is a problem.

2730
03:35:56,360 --> 03:36:00,360
The caveat to that is I think a lot of that development that has already existed was under

2731
03:36:00,360 --> 03:36:04,600
the assumption that they would have that three rivers crossing for future development.

2732
03:36:04,980 --> 03:36:09,640
Obviously, that's not in place right now, but the problem is that if we don't have the ability

2733
03:36:09,640 --> 03:36:15,760
to even guide this development as it's being guided right now and having that easement access,

2734
03:36:17,040 --> 03:36:21,980
If Boise comes in and says, you know, this is something that we don't even care about, you

2735
03:36:21,980 --> 03:36:24,260
just, you know, they put whatever they want there.

2736
03:36:24,580 --> 03:36:31,040
Now we have an additional resident issue for our citizens and I'm concerned about that being

2737
03:36:31,040 --> 03:36:32,720
an option for us.

2738
03:36:34,260 --> 03:36:39,380
So, you know, it's one of those rock and art place situations, you know, and we now have

2739
03:36:39,380 --> 03:36:44,440
a problem that we didn't create that we have to make some kind of resolution for.

2740
03:36:44,440 --> 03:36:48,480
So I'm still amendable as to kind of go on one or another.

2741
03:36:48,720 --> 03:36:58,680
I'm leaning more towards supporting the application in the sense of it's giving the option for us to have a point of egress for our citizens in an emergency.

2742
03:37:02,660 --> 03:37:06,660
I don't think the setbacks should be granted.

2743
03:37:06,900 --> 03:37:08,260
I don't think that that's necessary.

2744
03:37:08,960 --> 03:37:12,880
I think they should hold within the code that is currently in place.

2745
03:37:13,660 --> 03:37:18,160
And so I'm definitely torn on this one.

2746
03:37:18,380 --> 03:37:21,060
I'll be honest, it's problematic.

2747
03:37:22,200 --> 03:37:23,100
Mr. Mayor.

2748
03:37:24,360 --> 03:37:28,220
And I don't know how we would even craft a vote, you know,

2749
03:37:28,460 --> 03:37:33,500
I understand where you're coming from, but how we address,

2750
03:37:34,880 --> 03:37:39,660
is there some way we can tie in the need for an additional

2751
03:37:40,620 --> 03:37:46,860
Egress point, not absent of, you know, a calamity or a special event that we need to

2752
03:37:46,860 --> 03:37:53,700
evacuate people quickly, tie that in somehow, but that would move forward with the trust

2753
03:37:53,700 --> 03:37:55,420
or something I don't know.

2754
03:37:59,950 --> 03:38:07,150
Mr. Mayor, let me ask Councilwoman Russell again one time, you said this would not get approved

2755
03:38:07,150 --> 03:38:11,250
unless some an improvement was made on the current Egress round.

2756
03:38:11,250 --> 03:38:27,430
But yes, we can put a condition of development that unless the egress is constructed and is built to facilitate evacuation for residents, then there would be no building.

2757
03:38:27,570 --> 03:38:28,500
I would support that.

2758
03:38:29,130 --> 03:38:37,250
You could pull back up the letter from the fire department, which shows what kind of reads out.

2759
03:38:37,250 --> 03:38:44,810
You see the bottom couple of lines that talks about, they will not consider, you know, something's meeting you.

2760
03:38:45,410 --> 03:39:00,870
Right. And it is already stated by the fire department, but I wanted to add the condition that residents would be allowed to use it, and it would be available for evacuation purposes.

2761
03:39:00,870 --> 03:39:08,830
And the problem with having an additional road to access the subdivision that will never happen

2762
03:39:08,830 --> 03:39:10,270
unless three city rivers.

2763
03:39:10,650 --> 03:39:17,330
Three cities crossing is built because there is no way to build a road other than that.

2764
03:39:21,970 --> 03:39:26,530
I think the vision for the three city river crossing is to come down 55 and go up over.

2765
03:39:27,390 --> 03:39:33,050
to Chindon with the hanger for Clover Don't Five Mile, so I don't know how it's going to

2766
03:39:33,050 --> 03:39:33,770
tuck into.

2767
03:39:34,050 --> 03:39:39,770
Well Stephanie mentioned that during the presentation that because it is going to use the

2768
03:39:39,770 --> 03:39:45,290
Idaho Materials plant as an access point, correct Stephanie?

2769
03:39:47,480 --> 03:39:52,680
The last, yeah, the last plant I saw were years, you know, many years ago, so you've obviously

2770
03:39:52,680 --> 03:39:59,380
see something newer. So it might allowed to speak to them. Yeah. Okay. Mr. Mayor. We're getting

2771
03:39:59,380 --> 03:40:00,000
off we catch.

2772
03:40:00,980 --> 03:40:08,520
I don't know that I was, so in the planning is on a commission hearing. We had agreed to include a 50-foot

2773
03:40:08,520 --> 03:40:14,660
right of way within the eastern portion of our development should, the three cities crossing, development

2774
03:40:14,660 --> 03:40:20,140
ever occur in the future. So I've not seen something additional aside from what you probably

2775
03:40:20,140 --> 03:40:28,320
seen Councilwoman May, but we're essentially just saying we're going to allow that right away to be

2776
03:40:28,320 --> 03:40:32,400
within this development should the three cities crossing actually ever connect.

2777
03:40:32,700 --> 03:40:36,340
And you're right, I think it's supposed to go from kind of an alignment with state

2778
03:40:36,340 --> 03:40:40,500
high with 55 over what would be IFC property because it's really the only

2779
03:40:40,500 --> 03:40:42,540
undeveloped property that's going to try to pull the

2780
03:40:43,240 --> 03:40:48,820
an area else you can see. Over IFC property to

2781
03:40:49,420 --> 03:40:53,360
chondent either an alignment with Cloverdale or Maple Grove

2782
03:40:53,360 --> 03:40:56,960
of hopefully to provide you know an access point

2783
03:40:56,960 --> 03:40:59,480
for a lot of the offices that are over in that direction.

2784
03:41:01,260 --> 03:41:02,300
Thank you.

2785
03:41:03,060 --> 03:41:05,480
So Mr. Mayor, what would the condition

2786
03:41:07,220 --> 03:41:11,580
to take care of the egress, the emergency egress

2787
03:41:11,580 --> 03:41:15,620
for individual residents to get out of island woods?

2788
03:41:16,420 --> 03:41:17,480
What would that look like?

2789
03:41:18,980 --> 03:41:20,500
I mean, who's, yeah?

2790
03:41:21,360 --> 03:41:23,280
Mr. Mayor, members of the Council.

2791
03:41:27,440 --> 03:41:31,980
Condition of the development's 3.11, here comes another one, and Tracy, if this is approved

2792
03:41:31,980 --> 03:41:34,300
off, type it out for you tomorrow.

2793
03:41:36,240 --> 03:41:41,140
Condition of the development's 3.11 states, owner shall comply with the requirements of

2794
03:41:41,140 --> 03:41:45,000
legal fire department and the City of Legal Parks, Pathways and Recreation Commission,

2795
03:41:45,940 --> 03:41:50,420
recommendations regarding the secondary access prior to the City Clerk signing the final

2796
03:41:50,420 --> 03:41:50,820
plan.

2797
03:41:52,880 --> 03:41:58,880
You would need to add additional language, so it would state. Owners shall comply with

2798
03:41:58,880 --> 03:42:03,360
the requirements of legal, fire department, and the city vehicle, park, spathways and

2799
03:42:03,360 --> 03:42:11,280
recreation commission period. The secondary emergency access shall provide for ingress egress

2800
03:42:11,280 --> 03:42:19,400
for emergency vehicles and evacuation of citizens in the event of an emergency. The secondary

2801
03:42:19,400 --> 03:42:26,880
emergency access agreement shall be recorded and referenced as a

2802
03:42:26,880 --> 03:42:30,140
plat node on a plat prior to the city clerk's sign in the

2803
03:42:30,140 --> 03:42:30,640
plat.

2804
03:42:35,380 --> 03:42:39,180
And then Mike while you're up here, which condition of development

2805
03:42:39,180 --> 03:42:42,860
addresses I see at number four,

2806
03:42:45,890 --> 03:42:48,390
regarding the setbacks, would

2807
03:42:48,390 --> 03:42:54,570
we then strike number four if we wanted to not allow those setbacks

2808
03:42:54,570 --> 03:42:57,450
to be identical to Williamson Ranch?

2809
03:42:59,330 --> 03:43:02,510
And Mr. Mann, Council member, Russell.

2810
03:43:03,390 --> 03:43:05,390
Number four, does the address the setbacks?

2811
03:43:05,510 --> 03:43:09,990
The setbacks, if you approve it with R2 setbacks,

2812
03:43:10,250 --> 03:43:12,690
will be 30 feet front, 30 feet rear,

2813
03:43:12,750 --> 03:43:15,330
10 on the sides, five feet additional,

2814
03:43:16,270 --> 03:43:19,210
and I believe it's 20 feet from the street side.

2815
03:43:20,430 --> 03:43:23,690
The concern I have at the street side is the garage,

2816
03:43:23,690 --> 03:43:27,010
But we can address that through eight to four as well,

2817
03:43:27,210 --> 03:43:29,770
because there's a footnote with eight to four

2818
03:43:29,770 --> 03:43:32,370
that addresses grages and sidewalks.

2819
03:43:37,260 --> 03:43:39,940
So the number four would just say the required setbacks.

2820
03:43:40,680 --> 03:43:44,380
Shelby, as required by code.

2821
03:43:45,720 --> 03:43:49,740
And Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Russell, you could just strike it.

2822
03:43:49,740 --> 03:43:50,080
OK.

2823
03:43:50,340 --> 03:43:55,240
For that matter, because then we defer back to Eagle City code

2824
03:43:55,240 --> 03:43:56,400
for our two setbacks.

2825
03:43:56,860 --> 03:43:57,400
Great.

2826
03:43:57,400 --> 03:43:59,340
just taking lots of notes.

2827
03:44:04,900 --> 03:44:10,360
Mr. Mayor, but when last question do Councilwoman Russell, on

2828
03:44:11,100 --> 03:44:17,680
the, that condition for the emergency agress, that would include the verifying that the

2829
03:44:17,680 --> 03:44:22,000
bridge is adequate and can stand the traffic and all that business, right? Yes, that's

2830
03:44:22,000 --> 03:44:22,700
for me.

2831
03:44:24,860 --> 03:44:25,080
Thank you.

2832
03:44:25,120 --> 03:44:33,160
Let me implement one comment on this part of it. We have to remind ourselves to that public

2833
03:44:33,160 --> 03:44:37,620
safety has a big say and a big part of this conditional thing.

2834
03:44:37,840 --> 03:44:43,160
All bridges get rated for capacity, so it doesn't matter what bridge you're using.

2835
03:44:43,840 --> 03:44:50,180
They have to be rated, and then also the compactness of the engineering of the roadway has to be,

2836
03:44:50,180 --> 03:44:56,180
you know, all adhered to above the standard of the weight limit of any apparatus going through there.

2837
03:44:56,580 --> 03:44:59,960
But the fire employees, they will be part of this...

2838
03:45:00,270 --> 03:45:13,990
Vacuation program that I think we're hitting on the cusp of something new and we're going to lead the way with the city, if the council occurs, would be able to address these kind of emergency situations.

2839
03:45:15,230 --> 03:45:22,430
There is a flood plan in place in Mike Williams, is our flood flood director, and he could test this, but it's from a public safety perspective.

2840
03:45:22,430 --> 03:45:26,690
There is notification and we will not do gridlock.

2841
03:45:26,990 --> 03:45:31,530
I work the Oakland Hills fire back in the day in California and it was one way and people

2842
03:45:31,530 --> 03:45:32,390
to die.

2843
03:45:33,030 --> 03:45:38,450
That was, we learned a lot from these incidents that happened, but we will put together a mitigation

2844
03:45:38,450 --> 03:45:43,730
plan regardless of what developers take place out there from our community.

2845
03:45:43,950 --> 03:45:51,330
I mean, we're implementing this plan as we work through this thing, but this is a good segue

2846
03:45:51,330 --> 03:45:57,490
into what the need is, because the last thing we wanted to do is have our people in panic mode.

2847
03:45:57,650 --> 03:46:01,230
We have our residents concerned with what's happening in their own neighborhoods.

2848
03:46:01,630 --> 03:46:06,030
We want you to enjoy living in Eagle and Peace of Mind. We're working towards that

2849
03:46:06,030 --> 03:46:13,030
through the fire and through the police in our program that we're setting up the systems and emergency

2850
03:46:13,030 --> 03:46:19,090
response training. It's not good teams. We'll give them that later. I'm just putting that out there for

2851
03:46:19,090 --> 03:46:23,630
guys we're not just ignoring the safety aspect of what's going on here and this may be the

2852
03:46:23,630 --> 03:46:28,930
catalyst that lights the fire to get the whole city into this thing but you guys are the first

2853
03:46:28,930 --> 03:46:35,530
ones up on this but I could tell you fire in EMS and police they have contingency plans are ready

2854
03:46:35,530 --> 03:46:42,110
in place for ingress and egress into your situation I'm not going to say things don't

2855
03:46:42,110 --> 03:46:48,510
catastrophically happen but we have a plan already in place and I want you to have go out of here

2856
03:46:48,510 --> 03:46:51,890
tonight, at least knowing, they're clueless, they don't even know what they're talking about.

2857
03:46:52,070 --> 03:46:56,230
No, we actually do know we're talking about, we do have a mitigation plan for your community

2858
03:46:56,230 --> 03:47:01,170
or neighborhoods right now as we speak, and that's, but it can be enhanced, okay, and that's

2859
03:47:01,170 --> 03:47:06,250
what we're trying to get right here is an enhancement to the need, especially as we add people

2860
03:47:06,250 --> 03:47:07,030
to the community.

2861
03:47:07,490 --> 03:47:09,610
So, I just want you to have a piece of mind with that.

2862
03:47:09,610 --> 03:47:11,110
We've already done public comments, sorry.

2863
03:47:12,650 --> 03:47:17,270
I do want to hear from you later, but yeah, you can email us or something like that.

2864
03:47:17,270 --> 03:47:25,270
But anyhow, I just wanted to give you some, because I feel the atmosphere in the air is a lot of concern and panic, and I wanted you to rest assured that

2865
03:47:25,850 --> 03:47:31,330
you're firing police and EMS, they have a contingency plan in place, and we have more than one plan.

2866
03:47:31,530 --> 03:47:35,910
We have two or three plans, because they don't always work out the way you first plan them.

2867
03:47:36,210 --> 03:47:43,990
So I just wanted to give that hopefully it's an assurance to you guys a little bit, peace of mind, but it's not you're on your own out there.

2868
03:47:43,990 --> 03:47:47,950
I mean, there's a plan and you're not, we're going to do the best we can to accommodate

2869
03:47:47,950 --> 03:47:53,170
the emergency vote, you know, this is in our first rodeo in public safety, so we know

2870
03:47:53,170 --> 03:47:53,530
we're doing.

2871
03:47:54,210 --> 03:47:54,530
So go ahead.

2872
03:47:54,850 --> 03:48:02,050
Mr. Mayor and council members, council, people, it's getting late, it's like past my bedtime.

2873
03:48:03,510 --> 03:48:09,170
After conferring with the zoning administrator, we talked, we conferred about the timing of

2874
03:48:09,170 --> 03:48:10,870
emergency access agreement.

2875
03:48:13,290 --> 03:48:17,550
Instead of having a timing with privacy, clerk sign in the final

2876
03:48:17,550 --> 03:48:21,650
plat, if this is a phase development, which phase.

2877
03:48:22,330 --> 03:48:28,450
So what we discussed really quickly is prior to approval of the first phase of

2878
03:48:28,450 --> 03:48:32,670
the development they shall provide as a copy of the eSmet record and eSmet

2879
03:48:32,670 --> 03:48:33,130
agreement.

2880
03:48:38,430 --> 03:48:41,970
Mr. Mayer, I just wanted to kind of parlay off of your statement of safety.

2881
03:48:41,970 --> 03:48:43,890
I think one of the comments that was made is,

2882
03:48:44,090 --> 03:48:46,030
what does this development bring to our neighborhood?

2883
03:48:46,090 --> 03:48:47,390
What do we get out of this?

2884
03:48:47,850 --> 03:48:49,590
And I think this is one of those components.

2885
03:48:49,930 --> 03:48:52,890
It's bringing in an easement access

2886
03:48:52,890 --> 03:48:55,090
that wasn't there for safety measures.

2887
03:48:55,530 --> 03:48:57,190
So that would be something that is a benefit

2888
03:48:57,190 --> 03:49:00,050
for the existing residents of this neighborhood.

2889
03:49:07,120 --> 03:49:08,140
Any further discussion?

2890
03:49:08,300 --> 03:49:11,140
If not, I'm prepared to make a motion.

2891
03:49:11,140 --> 03:49:16,520
to approve agenda item number 9C.

2892
03:49:21,360 --> 03:49:25,960
Make a motion for approval with the following changes

2893
03:49:25,960 --> 03:49:27,540
to

2894
03:49:30,780 --> 03:49:33,400
the specifics for the annexation and the resone.

2895
03:49:35,360 --> 03:49:41,000
Rebiased 3.11 as stated by Mike Williams.

2896
03:49:43,610 --> 03:49:49,250
And that is where we are adding the emergency access requirements.

2897
03:49:49,250 --> 03:49:56,050
and then also striking number four on the preliminary development plan and

2898
03:49:56,050 --> 03:49:59,730
plat, striking number four, which is the setback.

2899
03:50:04,370 --> 03:50:11,470
And I believe that's it. Okay, have a motion to have a second. Second. Okay, any more discussion?

2900
03:50:13,190 --> 03:50:18,850
One discussion point, Mike. Do we need to have the conditions, the standard conditions of approval?

2901
03:50:19,810 --> 03:50:23,770
In the staff recommendation, do we need to state those as well, too?

2902
03:50:23,770 --> 03:50:30,370
Mr. Mayor and Council Member Genselsberger, I'm going to refer back to Council Member Russell.

2903
03:50:30,830 --> 03:50:34,850
We've staffed requests as part of the motion that you recognize the conditions of

2904
03:50:34,850 --> 03:50:39,570
developments that site-specific conditions of approval, and standard conditions of approval,

2905
03:50:39,830 --> 03:50:44,950
has recommended by the Planning and Zoning Commission, and then it's going to be with the changes of

2906
03:50:44,950 --> 03:50:48,610
3.11 in site-specific condition number four being stricken.

2907
03:50:51,810 --> 03:51:02,110
Okay, I'll revise my motion then to what he said, but he said I think when he said it exactly as stated by Mike Williams.

2908
03:51:02,690 --> 03:51:04,090
Okay, second concur.

2909
03:51:04,490 --> 03:51:05,370
Second concur.

2910
03:51:06,290 --> 03:51:07,770
Okay, now we're in discussion still.

2911
03:51:07,950 --> 03:51:14,790
I just wanted to make a statement that this is, and by no means a referendum on the police or the fire department.

2912
03:51:15,350 --> 03:51:19,470
everybody does an awesome job and we're lucky to be here, et cetera. I just feel

2913
03:51:19,470 --> 03:51:23,170
there's more to be done. Conversations to be had, I think we had some good ideas

2914
03:51:23,170 --> 03:51:27,750
out there. I'm still just stuck on the safety and listening to all the residents

2915
03:51:27,750 --> 03:51:33,690
out there. So I will not be voting in favor of this, but I do hope everybody

2916
03:51:33,690 --> 03:51:40,050
works together and we can come up with some solutions going forward that everybody

2917
03:51:40,050 --> 03:51:47,470
will be happy with and address maybe the the egress out of the neighborhood. But anyway, those

2918
03:51:47,470 --> 03:51:49,190
are my thoughts. So thank you.

2919
03:51:49,210 --> 03:51:51,630
Thank you. Any other discussions or comments?

2920
03:51:55,510 --> 03:51:57,390
Good to go. All right, roll call please.

2921
03:51:58,530 --> 03:52:02,850
Hi. No. Hi. Hi.

2922
03:52:03,190 --> 03:52:13,510
Hi. Thank you. Okay. We're moving on to new business number 10. 10A is an action item resolution

2923
03:52:13,510 --> 03:52:16,790
in 24- to show eight community hall use policy,

2924
03:52:18,890 --> 03:52:21,860
as we leave,

2925
03:52:22,120 --> 03:52:23,640
let's be cordial, please.

2926
03:52:26,470 --> 03:52:29,790
Mr. Mayor and Council, this is a policy that

2927
03:52:29,790 --> 03:52:32,250
staff is being poured, it's a bit overdue,

2928
03:52:32,630 --> 03:52:36,330
but it's a policy for the community hall reservation

2929
03:52:36,330 --> 03:52:38,210
and the senior center reservations.

2930
03:52:39,210 --> 03:52:43,730
We've the facilities of operated for a while

2931
03:52:43,730 --> 03:52:46,950
without a formal policy in place, so we're bringing this to you now.

2932
03:52:46,950 --> 03:52:53,530
I've gone over it with a couple of council members and there are a couple of clarifications that staff need

2933
03:52:53,530 --> 03:53:02,430
direction on. This policy is complement tree to the existing policy for the city hall room reservation

2934
03:53:02,950 --> 03:53:08,870
with a few tweaks based on our facility needs. I don't want we're distracted right now by noisiness.

2935
03:53:08,890 --> 03:53:14,310
I was powering through you guys. I know I just want to give the courtesy of hearing your devoted

2936
03:53:14,310 --> 03:53:15,990
attention from the council.

2937
03:53:30,270 --> 03:53:32,650
Okay, there you go. Thank you. Sorry.

2938
03:53:36,880 --> 03:53:43,680
So super sexy, after all of that stuff, room reservation policy. I've gone over it with

2939
03:53:43,680 --> 03:53:48,720
a couple council members, but staff does need direction on whether you want to allow alcohol

2940
03:53:48,720 --> 03:53:55,560
to be served or consumed at the community of all facility and the senior facility. It's

2941
03:53:55,560 --> 03:53:59,760
council's desire to allow that. Are there those? There are certain permits that are

2942
03:53:59,760 --> 03:54:04,780
going to be required and open container permit would be required as well as a catering permit.

2943
03:54:06,540 --> 03:54:11,160
Those are city code and that would also meet state code for those two items.

2944
03:54:13,120 --> 03:54:15,040
I'm available for any questions.

2945
03:54:15,300 --> 03:54:16,140
It's not really exciting.

2946
03:54:16,300 --> 03:54:25,120
I did work with Brian Allen, our recreation director who oversees the community hall and

2947
03:54:25,120 --> 03:54:33,380
Center as far as room setup and the usage that it's seen to date. I did consult with other

2948
03:54:33,380 --> 03:54:40,560
agencies on how they handle some of their room reservations. Sorry, verbal pauses I apologize.

2949
03:54:44,110 --> 03:54:48,410
Part of the things that I'm not asking for direction on today are going to be fees. I'm going to

2950
03:54:48,410 --> 03:54:54,510
bring that back at another time. We're looking to make those consistent, consistent across city facilities.

2951
03:54:56,490 --> 03:54:59,250
And what are the questions you have for me?

2952
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:06,700
Mr. Mayor. Tracy question for you and kind of researching this with other municipalities. Notice a couple

2953
03:55:06,700 --> 03:55:13,620
different things in between having alcohol at an event where there's either minors or no minors identifying

2954
03:55:13,620 --> 03:55:20,020
either of those or if the alcohol is being served that some municipality said it had to be served by a bartending

2955
03:55:20,020 --> 03:55:24,340
service or something of that nature. So just kind of wanted to dive a little bit into some of those nuances.

2956
03:55:24,340 --> 03:55:32,900
Right, so if the city were to allow the service of it, we were to acquire a catering permit and an open container permit, both of those are reviewed by Eagle PD

2957
03:55:33,380 --> 03:55:36,420
Actually, just the open container permit. So

2958
03:55:37,580 --> 03:55:44,020
We would send it to them. They would have to say like how identify how you're you're verifying someone's 21 years or older

2959
03:55:44,020 --> 03:55:52,740
No alcohol would be allowed outside the premise those type of things catering permits means you have a state alcohol license and you are gonna be the one that pours

2960
03:55:52,740 --> 03:55:54,920
So I can't be Bob's ring in a six pack.

2961
03:55:55,080 --> 03:56:02,060
It has to be I'm hiring Jim State Brewing to cater my event and the actual holder of the

2962
03:56:02,060 --> 03:56:05,920
state license has to pull that catering permit and it's handing glove you have to have

2963
03:56:05,920 --> 03:56:06,540
both.

2964
03:56:07,560 --> 03:56:12,620
But yeah, we have local PD review any open container permits for those things that put

2965
03:56:12,620 --> 03:56:14,660
any additional conditions that need to apply.

2966
03:56:15,280 --> 03:56:15,760
Thanks, Tracy.

2967
03:56:17,080 --> 03:56:17,980
Mr. Mayor.

2968
03:56:17,980 --> 03:56:26,240
Tracy, Park Reservations, Park Shelters, do we allow alcohol there?

2969
03:56:26,880 --> 03:56:33,840
We do. We have a different code section regarding alcohol as far as that goes. Okay.

2970
03:56:34,460 --> 03:56:40,940
And then, for instance, if someone were using a catering service, their employees are trained by

2971
03:56:40,940 --> 03:56:47,960
alcohol beverage and control for. Eagle doesn't have a tips certified requirement for the

2972
03:56:47,960 --> 03:56:50,860
on the individual license holder, and what they will have worn

2973
03:56:50,860 --> 03:56:53,640
out. In the olden days, you could borrow someone's

2974
03:56:53,640 --> 03:56:56,760
alcohol license, and you could pour off of it without actually

2975
03:56:56,760 --> 03:57:00,020
having their staff there. I do not know of anybody that would

2976
03:57:00,020 --> 03:57:02,560
still do that today. Just because of liability issues.

2977
03:57:03,240 --> 03:57:07,180
Okay, thank you. It becomes complicated. I think we've had requests

2978
03:57:07,180 --> 03:57:11,140
for wedding receptions or 50th Anniversary reservations

2979
03:57:11,140 --> 03:57:13,460
down at the senior center where they wanted to do a toast.

2980
03:57:14,200 --> 03:57:16,300
And until we had a policy in place, we simply said,

2981
03:57:16,300 --> 03:57:21,480
I'll call the loud, and it just makes it cleaner for everyone so.

2982
03:57:25,940 --> 03:57:29,580
Do you have the comments concerns or questions for Tracy on this?

2983
03:57:29,580 --> 03:57:32,060
I have a question before.

2984
03:57:35,450 --> 03:57:39,370
Yeah, the question becomes, do you want to allow it?

2985
03:57:39,370 --> 03:57:41,370
Do you want to allow it only at the senior center?

2986
03:57:41,670 --> 03:57:43,530
Do you only want to allow it at the community hall?

2987
03:57:43,850 --> 03:57:47,330
Do you want it everywhere right now for our meeting rooms?

2988
03:57:47,590 --> 03:57:49,190
Because who would come to city hall the drink?

2989
03:57:49,670 --> 03:57:50,490
Other than this?

2990
03:57:52,470 --> 03:57:57,730
It's not allowed for the use of the city hall meeting rooms, right now.

2991
03:57:58,170 --> 03:58:01,490
So we just need direction, do you want to allow to the senior center or not?

2992
03:58:03,430 --> 03:58:05,450
We can always address this after a year.

2993
03:58:05,590 --> 03:58:09,690
A year goes by and staffs like, man, they're tearing the joint up,

2994
03:58:09,890 --> 03:58:14,630
and it's probably a bad idea, or there's no way to gauge that at this point.

2995
03:58:15,110 --> 03:58:16,490
So it's your discretion.

2996
03:58:17,410 --> 03:58:20,150
And Tracy, there's no delineation between

2997
03:58:20,150 --> 03:58:22,690
Beer and wine and heart alcohol or is that?

2998
03:58:22,690 --> 03:58:26,250
It's also whatever the state license is that it holds it as.

2999
03:58:29,220 --> 03:58:34,760
And realistically, you know, I'm going to reserve it for 150 people for

3000
03:58:35,280 --> 03:58:38,820
X, Y, or Z, law enforcement's going to look at that and say,

3001
03:58:39,640 --> 03:58:41,100
What are our risks? We're not.

3002
03:58:43,700 --> 03:58:47,540
Well, I'll throw out my opinion first and I'll be brave.

3003
03:58:49,000 --> 03:58:54,920
I would say we go ahead and allow the alcohol, I think we have enough checks and balances

3004
03:58:54,920 --> 03:59:02,180
in place, and as Tracy said after a year we can revisit it if we need to.

3005
03:59:02,320 --> 03:59:08,920
I hate to turn away people that want to have a wedding anniversary or a reunion or whatever

3006
03:59:08,920 --> 03:59:13,120
it might be, so that would be my opinion.

3007
03:59:13,720 --> 03:59:15,160
Mr. Mayor, I agree with that.

3008
03:59:17,020 --> 03:59:17,820
For both facilities.

3009
03:59:20,900 --> 03:59:22,140
All right, so what do you like to?

3010
03:59:22,500 --> 03:59:24,960
Oh, maybe a motion for both of those resolutions.

3011
03:59:25,520 --> 03:59:29,060
And I get to do a roll call on those if you don't mind.

3012
03:59:29,680 --> 03:59:33,960
We could combine the two for Mitch from the one or you want to do it individually.

3013
03:59:34,780 --> 03:59:36,960
I think it's better just to do it individually.

3014
03:59:37,140 --> 03:59:39,100
I mean, just to just get felt in suspenders.

3015
03:59:39,380 --> 03:59:39,520
Yeah.

3016
03:59:39,940 --> 03:59:44,200
All right, so let's go ahead and do 10A for the Resolution 24-08.

3017
03:59:44,980 --> 03:59:57,020
Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve a New Business Item 10A Resolution 24-08 community hall use policy allowing me serving about call.

3018
03:59:57,440 --> 03:59:58,860
Thanks, I have a motion to have a second.

3019
03:59:59,620 --> 03:59:59,680
Second.

3020
04:00:05,360 --> 04:00:14,870
Okay, thank you, we'll go to 10B, the resolution 24-090, the eagles senior center, use policy.

3021
04:00:15,210 --> 04:00:26,110
Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve item 10B, action item resolution 24-09 for the eagles senior center, use policy to include the use, the serving of alcohol.

3022
04:00:26,110 --> 04:00:28,190
I have a motion to have a second.

3023
04:00:28,350 --> 04:00:28,810
Second.

3024
04:00:30,370 --> 04:00:30,530
Okay.

3025
04:00:30,910 --> 04:00:31,650
The motion and second.

3026
04:00:31,830 --> 04:00:32,610
Roll call please.

3027
04:00:33,050 --> 04:00:33,510
Gendelsberger.

3028
04:00:33,950 --> 04:00:34,010
Aye.

3029
04:00:34,010 --> 04:00:34,390
Aye.

3030
04:00:35,730 --> 04:00:35,890
Kwame.

3031
04:00:38,610 --> 04:00:38,950
Thank you.

3032
04:00:39,070 --> 04:00:41,470
We'll move on to ordinance 930.

3033
04:00:41,870 --> 04:00:42,870
Tracy, you're.

3034
04:00:42,930 --> 04:00:43,090
I'm sorry.

3035
04:00:43,330 --> 04:00:43,610
Are you done?

3036
04:00:44,130 --> 04:00:44,670
I don't know.

3037
04:00:44,750 --> 04:00:46,630
You think I might be here for the next one.

3038
04:00:47,090 --> 04:00:47,370
I just.

3039
04:00:48,450 --> 04:00:50,090
I didn't know if you wanted to sit down.

3040
04:00:50,350 --> 04:00:50,710
I mean.

3041
04:00:52,150 --> 04:00:52,610
Okay.

3042
04:00:53,770 --> 04:00:55,330
Let's do a action item.

3043
04:00:55,330 --> 04:00:59,610
ordinance 932 the code of ethics and the civility.

3044
04:01:00,270 --> 04:01:13,050
Mayor and Council, this is brought forward at the request of Council Member May, and I think maybe Russell, but regardless, we took sand points, ordinance and modified it slightly.

3045
04:01:14,030 --> 04:01:20,230
to more fit, more fit, the city of Eagle and how we operate, we don't have a

3046
04:01:20,230 --> 04:01:24,870
sergeant arms and those kind of things. Staff's amiable to any edits or

3047
04:01:24,870 --> 04:01:30,190
alterations you'd like to have done to it. That's all I have.

3048
04:01:31,090 --> 04:01:35,030
Okay, well I'll get a start off asking for the waving of the three readings and

3049
04:01:35,030 --> 04:01:44,880
by title only then somebody can do that one first ordinance. Mr. Mayor, I move the

3050
04:01:44,880 --> 04:01:50,680
to Idaho Code Section 50-902 that the rule requiring ordinances to be read on three different

3051
04:01:50,680 --> 04:01:56,420
days with one reading to be in full be dispensed with and that ordinance number 932 be considered

3052
04:01:56,420 --> 04:01:58,960
after being read once by title only.

3053
04:02:04,290 --> 04:02:08,810
And we have a motion to have a second. Okay, roll call.

3054
04:02:10,890 --> 04:02:11,450
Gindlesburg.

3055
04:02:11,890 --> 04:02:12,450
Aye.

3056
04:02:12,610 --> 04:02:12,950
Russell?

3057
04:02:13,550 --> 04:02:13,770
Kwame.

3058
04:02:14,090 --> 04:02:14,350
Aye.

3059
04:02:14,690 --> 04:02:15,130
Thank you.

3060
04:02:15,490 --> 04:02:17,270
We continue with the ordinance number 932.

3061
04:02:17,830 --> 04:02:21,370
Mr. Mayor, I move that ordinance number 932 be adopted.

3062
04:02:22,910 --> 04:02:27,430
Ornans 932's the Code of Ethics and Civility and Ornans of the City of Eagle, A to County,

3063
04:02:27,810 --> 04:02:34,970
Idaho Title 1 Administration, adding new chapter 12 code of ethics and civility, adding a severability

3064
04:02:34,970 --> 04:02:37,290
clause and providing an effective date.

3065
04:02:37,830 --> 04:02:39,990
Thank you for the motion to have a second.

3066
04:02:40,750 --> 04:02:41,230
Second.

3067
04:02:42,130 --> 04:02:42,170
Okay.

3068
04:02:42,910 --> 04:02:43,550
Any more discussion?

3069
04:02:44,770 --> 04:02:45,390
Roll call please.

3070
04:02:45,630 --> 04:02:46,150
Gendosberger.

3071
04:02:46,630 --> 04:02:47,050
Aye.

3072
04:02:47,570 --> 04:02:47,790
Russell.

3073
04:02:48,610 --> 04:02:48,750
Kwame.

3074
04:02:49,990 --> 04:02:50,490
We are in council.

3075
04:02:50,770 --> 04:02:55,470
I will work up some tips and tricks for all the board members and chairman.

3076
04:02:55,730 --> 04:03:00,270
So there were the new ordinance since we get that published and do some information.

3077
04:03:01,230 --> 04:03:03,370
Do does for the general public as well.

3078
04:03:03,590 --> 04:03:05,790
There will be modifications to the public comment.

3079
04:03:05,790 --> 04:03:09,410
portion of the meeting and thank you for your time.

3080
04:03:09,590 --> 04:03:13,090
All right. Thank you. Good job, Mr. Mayor. Good job, Tracy.

3081
04:03:15,290 --> 04:03:16,950
All right. We're going to move on to

3082
04:03:16,950 --> 04:03:21,210
action item 10D, which is the ordinance 933 annexation.

3083
04:03:21,210 --> 04:03:25,870
Resoned ordinance will brush subdivision mic.

3084
04:03:34,040 --> 04:03:36,840
Mr. Mayor, members of the council's ordinances for the

3085
04:03:36,840 --> 04:03:40,000
property located at the southwest corner of

3086
04:03:40,000 --> 04:03:45,120
Beacon Light and Park, the Willow Brush subdivision was previously approved.

3087
04:03:46,420 --> 04:03:50,880
The development agreement was executed some time ago, I just hadn't moved the ordinance forward.

3088
04:03:52,360 --> 04:03:53,000
Thank you.

3089
04:03:53,720 --> 04:03:58,380
All right, needs somebody to read the waving of the three readings and by title only, please.

3090
04:03:59,100 --> 04:04:09,520
Mr. Mayor, I moved that pursuant to Idaho Code Section 50-902 that the rule requiring ordinances to be read on three different days with one reading to be in full be dispensed with.

3091
04:04:09,520 --> 04:04:14,880
that ordinance number 933 be considered after being read once by title only.

3092
04:04:15,360 --> 04:04:15,500
Thank you.

3093
04:04:15,700 --> 04:04:16,780
I have a motion to have a second.

3094
04:04:18,060 --> 04:04:18,800
Any board discussion?

3095
04:04:19,740 --> 04:04:20,600
Roll call please.

3096
04:04:21,460 --> 04:04:21,700
Aye.

3097
04:04:24,390 --> 04:04:24,630
Aye.

3098
04:04:25,250 --> 04:04:25,730
Thank you.

3099
04:04:26,010 --> 04:04:27,910
Continue with the ordinance 933 please.

3100
04:04:28,110 --> 04:04:31,190
Mr. Mayor, I move that ordinance number 933 be adopted.

3101
04:04:31,930 --> 04:04:35,350
The annexation and reasoned ordinance for Willow Brush Subdivision.

3102
04:04:35,690 --> 04:04:41,490
In ordinance annexing certain real properties situated in the unincorporated area of

3103
04:04:41,490 --> 04:04:45,690
and can take you as to the corporate limits of the city of Eagle to the city of Eagle Idaho.

3104
04:04:46,150 --> 04:04:50,270
Changing the zoning classification of said real property here in from our U.T.

3105
04:04:50,730 --> 04:04:56,210
rural urban transition aid accounting designation to R2DAP residential with a development agreement

3106
04:04:56,210 --> 04:05:00,010
PUD, amending the zoning map of the city of Eagle to reflect said.

3107
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:04,920
Change, directing the copies of this ordinance be filed as provided by law, providing a

3108
04:05:04,920 --> 04:05:10,140
suburbility clause and providing an effective date. The 4.97 acre site is located

3109
04:05:10,140 --> 04:05:16,460
on the southwest corner of North Park Lane and West Beaconlight Road in 2795, North Park Lane.

3110
04:05:16,460 --> 04:05:19,520
Thank you, I have a motion to have a second.

3111
04:05:19,860 --> 04:05:20,340
Second.

3112
04:05:20,920 --> 04:05:21,600
Any more discussion?

3113
04:05:22,800 --> 04:05:23,440
Roll call please?

3114
04:05:23,880 --> 04:05:24,400
I.

3115
04:05:26,520 --> 04:05:26,760
Hi.

3116
04:05:27,640 --> 04:05:28,600
Thank you.

3117
04:05:28,840 --> 04:05:30,620
We move on to a new business.

3118
04:05:32,300 --> 04:05:35,180
This is a strategic planning workshop update by Nicole.

3119
04:05:37,710 --> 04:05:40,050
I mean, one moment to pull it up.

3120
04:05:59,060 --> 04:05:59,600
Good evening, Mayor.

3121
04:05:59,740 --> 04:06:00,080
And Council.

3122
04:06:00,600 --> 04:06:02,340
Nicole Beard's Spencer for the record.

3123
04:06:02,340 --> 04:06:07,040
Tonight, here it's you do a follow up discussion with the Council on the strategic planning

3124
04:06:07,040 --> 04:06:11,820
workshop that was completed on May 22nd.

3125
04:06:12,640 --> 04:06:16,660
So, have we got here on April 23rd, Councilwoman Russell requested and the Council

3126
04:06:16,660 --> 04:06:18,960
agreed to conduct a strategic planning work session.

3127
04:06:19,780 --> 04:06:24,600
The Council Project, including Council Project Identification, Review of Staff Capacity and

3128
04:06:24,600 --> 04:06:29,960
Resources, Understanding a Department of Duty's projects, tasks, those that are required,

3129
04:06:29,960 --> 04:06:32,980
those that are elected and those that have been

3130
04:06:32,980 --> 04:06:37,060
directed require elected directed.

3131
04:06:38,320 --> 04:06:40,080
We're going to call it red for now.

3132
04:06:40,480 --> 04:06:41,020
That's a lot.

3133
04:06:41,620 --> 04:06:44,160
The Department of Education of what crucial needs

3134
04:06:44,160 --> 04:06:48,740
for ongoing future and ongoing in future success.

3135
04:06:51,320 --> 04:06:55,340
On May 22nd, we had a workshop with the city council

3136
04:06:55,340 --> 04:06:59,520
and the department heads to discuss this direction.

3137
04:06:59,520 --> 04:07:11,160
So as part of the preparation for that is you'll remember everyone was asked to kind of participate and this was kind of our flow chart for that may be that may meeting to bring information forward.

3138
04:07:11,680 --> 04:07:19,660
So the council, the goal was to understand what we do, what we should be doing, and what do we want to do, but aren't.

3139
04:07:20,240 --> 04:07:25,760
And so we reviewed capital planning, we reviewed the departments, what they're doing, what

3140
04:07:25,760 --> 04:07:31,060
departments are responsible for, departments were asked to identify what needs to get

3141
04:07:31,060 --> 04:07:36,220
done but isn't and why and then the council was asked to help us understand why they ran

3142
04:07:36,220 --> 04:07:40,960
for office and what you wanted to achieve at the end of your tenure on the council.

3143
04:07:42,040 --> 04:07:47,180
So all of that came down through the first workshop which we'll talk about but in the plan

3144
04:07:47,180 --> 04:07:51,580
And there was always this discussion of workshop number two, so we're going to talk a little

3145
04:07:51,580 --> 04:07:53,100
bit about that as well.

3146
04:07:53,960 --> 04:07:58,180
So the focus of the 22nd, as I said, was what do we do, what are the parents do, where

3147
04:07:58,180 --> 04:08:04,320
the partnership gaps, the redundancies, where does work need to be refocused, what should

3148
04:08:04,320 --> 04:08:14,640
the city be doing but we aren't, are they statutory or elective, and what are their

3149
04:08:15,360 --> 04:08:21,600
don't refocus, what does the City Council want to get done in either your two or four

3150
04:08:21,600 --> 04:08:28,540
your terms? So as part of the workshop we we worked through this and then the part of the

3151
04:08:28,540 --> 04:08:34,140
workshop was to do a word cloud which was to really try and find commonality amongst everything

3152
04:08:34,140 --> 04:08:40,700
that everyone heard and said during the meeting. The word cloud meant that if you said something

3153
04:08:40,700 --> 04:08:46,460
enough times over and over. I got bigger. So if everybody was saying staffing, staffing on

3154
04:08:46,460 --> 04:08:53,020
the left became the largest word in the word in the word cloud. So there were 71 entries

3155
04:08:53,020 --> 04:08:58,720
in your word cloud. 27 combined topics. So when you took things that were combined and I'll kind

3156
04:08:58,720 --> 04:09:04,940
of walk you through how that happened. And those 27 when combined were somewhere between 26 and 1 vote.

3157
04:09:05,680 --> 04:09:09,820
So there were some outliers that were just one time, one time.

3158
04:09:10,640 --> 04:09:15,720
So here you have, and you have this in your packet that's a little more legible than what's

3159
04:09:15,720 --> 04:09:16,200
on the screen.

3160
04:09:16,280 --> 04:09:20,860
So I know this is, we're going to get into some spreadsheets that are large, but you have all

3161
04:09:20,860 --> 04:09:27,180
your responses that we're here, and then I kind of unpacked them into projects, like, how

3162
04:09:27,180 --> 04:09:28,520
did they work together?

3163
04:09:30,400 --> 04:09:32,820
Staffing was number one with 26 responses.

3164
04:09:32,820 --> 04:09:36,460
So what all their responses exactly staffing?

3165
04:09:37,180 --> 04:09:37,280
No.

3166
04:09:37,740 --> 04:09:39,900
Some of the responses had to do with staffing,

3167
04:09:40,120 --> 04:09:43,220
so it would be a new position or a change in a position,

3168
04:09:43,880 --> 04:09:46,060
or it was something along those lines.

3169
04:09:46,500 --> 04:09:51,620
And you have a breakdown in your packet of how that impacts.

3170
04:09:52,480 --> 04:09:59,680
It's an Excel spreadsheet where you can see kind of how staff combines.

3171
04:10:00,750 --> 04:10:09,470
You have it here. Those into topics. This was sent to the city council and the department has, after I did this filter.

3172
04:10:10,390 --> 04:10:21,730
Because I will admit, if somewhat more art than science at this point in time, it's like staffing included additional staff support, legacy planning staff, wages assistant assistant attorney.

3173
04:10:22,970 --> 04:10:31,890
In-house engineer, foot-hills engineer, recognition of staff, volunteer coordinator, additional

3174
04:10:31,890 --> 04:10:36,530
project management, reconfiguration of staff, organization structure, so there's a lot

3175
04:10:36,530 --> 04:10:38,950
of things, but they all came down to staff.

3176
04:10:39,830 --> 04:10:45,930
I sent this out on May 23rd, I heard back from Tracy, who had one question about the foot-hills

3177
04:10:45,930 --> 04:10:50,530
and how we got put in and I think I addressed that, but I never heard back from a new

3178
04:10:50,530 --> 04:10:54,350
and I sent it back out to you guys again and I still didn't hear back from you.

3179
04:10:55,070 --> 04:11:01,210
So we then jumped into budget cycle and I admit we all got busy. I think summer is the hardest

3180
04:11:01,710 --> 04:11:06,790
time to do things in the city because there's just so much going on. But I did have a

3181
04:11:06,790 --> 04:11:11,770
felt meeting with the mayor and Councilwoman Russell on June 10th and kind of talked about

3182
04:11:11,770 --> 04:11:17,290
like what does this look like where they comfortable with where it was. And in that discussion,

3183
04:11:17,290 --> 04:11:19,970
then the conversation came to focus on the top 10

3184
04:11:19,970 --> 04:11:22,610
and the begins scoping of how we would move forward.

3185
04:11:24,250 --> 04:11:26,490
So what you have in front of you also

3186
04:11:26,490 --> 04:11:28,310
is this crazy spreadsheet,

3187
04:11:28,470 --> 04:11:29,430
and I know I love spreadsheet,

3188
04:11:29,610 --> 04:11:31,270
you all know that about me, they're color coded.

3189
04:11:31,810 --> 04:11:34,010
So these colors here are these top 10 match,

3190
04:11:34,730 --> 04:11:36,330
the color coding of these top 10.

3191
04:11:36,410 --> 04:11:37,830
And you have this in paper form

3192
04:11:37,830 --> 04:11:40,850
because it is not gonna be able to be read on the screen.

3193
04:11:40,910 --> 04:11:42,130
I know that.

3194
04:11:43,810 --> 04:11:46,110
But what we talked about is how do we shift

3195
04:11:46,110 --> 04:11:49,970
from large issues and concerns to actionable items.

3196
04:11:50,130 --> 04:11:51,230
What do we do?

3197
04:11:51,710 --> 04:11:54,330
And how do we start talking about strategically planning?

3198
04:11:54,430 --> 04:11:56,670
And as we talked about in that May 22nd workshop,

3199
04:11:57,190 --> 04:12:00,750
some things will be being worked on today.

3200
04:12:01,430 --> 04:12:03,010
And some things are in the current budget.

3201
04:12:03,070 --> 04:12:04,950
Some of them are being partially addressed.

3202
04:12:05,590 --> 04:12:07,270
Some of them may be future budget items.

3203
04:12:07,530 --> 04:12:08,550
But how do we do that?

3204
04:12:08,570 --> 04:12:11,910
So in my conversations with Councilwoman Russell

3205
04:12:11,910 --> 04:12:14,890
and the mayor, we kind of talked about these kind of pillars,

3206
04:12:14,890 --> 04:12:20,950
which are in white, which was like, what's the current status of this issue? Are there potential

3207
04:12:20,950 --> 04:12:25,230
solutions? Is there a council liaison? Because some of them did have a council liaison,

3208
04:12:25,410 --> 04:12:31,290
most of them don't, but some of them did. So what are the political impacts of some of these items

3209
04:12:31,290 --> 04:12:38,570
not being addressed? Is there staff capacity issues? Is there key projects staff that we need to

3210
04:12:38,570 --> 04:12:43,210
integrate as we go through a strategic planning process? Is there a fiscal impact to the city

3211
04:12:43,210 --> 04:12:45,870
if something doesn't get done, or we do do something,

3212
04:12:46,810 --> 04:12:50,550
is there impact to our partnerships that we function under?

3213
04:12:51,150 --> 04:12:53,350
And then, if it's clear, you're 25 budget impact,

3214
04:12:53,390 --> 04:12:55,470
because as we've been doing this as we know,

3215
04:12:55,590 --> 04:12:58,770
for since May, the budget's been being developed.

3216
04:12:59,250 --> 04:13:01,710
And so sometimes, some of these solutions are being

3217
04:13:01,710 --> 04:13:03,410
happened, and then there's potential project

3218
04:13:03,410 --> 04:13:04,370
directives and implementation.

3219
04:13:05,150 --> 04:13:06,430
Now, I want to put this on the record.

3220
04:13:06,890 --> 04:13:08,490
These are not perfect.

3221
04:13:09,290 --> 04:13:12,170
This was illustrative for us to have a conversation.

3222
04:13:13,150 --> 04:13:18,770
But the goal was to kind of see how we could begin unpacking these and how do we move

3223
04:13:18,770 --> 04:13:24,010
forward in a more strategic way? Are there things the Council wants to consider this list

3224
04:13:24,010 --> 04:13:31,070
of projects, directors, and implementation may be too big, and it may not be enough. And so

3225
04:13:31,070 --> 04:13:37,910
how do we start talking through that? So staff in consultation with Councilwoman Russell the mayor

3226
04:13:37,910 --> 04:13:40,590
was like, I'm good. You guys now go do this.

3227
04:13:43,130 --> 04:13:45,910
We populated as much of this table as we felt comfortable

3228
04:13:45,910 --> 04:13:54,510
doing and bring it to you for your kind of conversation discussion. On tent is to move forward

3229
04:13:54,510 --> 04:14:01,710
with a portion of these. I don't know that tent is the right number either. The mayor as always says,

3230
04:14:01,710 --> 04:14:06,870
you know, you got three, maybe five that you're trying to do. But I wanted you to see kind of the

3231
04:14:06,870 --> 04:14:11,750
things that came out. So you're top three, you're staffing the foothills and office storage

3232
04:14:11,750 --> 04:14:17,290
space. And then you could add in fiscal planning, the comprehensive plan. There's a

3233
04:14:17,290 --> 04:14:22,370
clear break. You can kind of see the point scoring kind of what comes off. The intensets

3234
04:14:22,370 --> 04:14:27,350
for these to be strategically planned with directives coming from the council as to how we

3235
04:14:27,350 --> 04:14:29,750
move forward or as there are other things that we need to accomplish.

3236
04:14:31,670 --> 04:14:38,390
So, the next step is the first question I have for you, is this the direction council wants to go?

3237
04:14:38,410 --> 04:14:44,290
Do you still want to be doing this strategic planning with these items that were identified on that May 22nd?

3238
04:14:44,370 --> 04:14:51,470
Because you have every right to say Nicole, we have moved past it and I will go okay and I'll find something else to do with my time.

3239
04:14:53,550 --> 04:14:57,130
or you can say now as this is still really important but we don't

3240
04:14:57,130 --> 04:14:59,970
want to do the talk to because it's just too much to unpack.

3241
04:15:00,520 --> 04:15:07,260
2. To check if planning should be happening on an annual basis in most cities, they do some council retreats or something like that.

3242
04:15:07,380 --> 04:15:12,100
They can kind of work through these issues. The issues adapt and change as projects get completed.

3243
04:15:13,000 --> 04:15:21,420
You can look at this list and there are several projects in both your capital plan and our new budget that will accomplish some of this in the next year or year and a half.

3244
04:15:22,120 --> 04:15:27,440
So, then the question is, are any concerns or clarifications you want?

3245
04:15:27,760 --> 04:15:33,740
The intent would be for us to take this, pick a topic and start unpacking it, start answering

3246
04:15:33,740 --> 04:15:39,160
those questions collectively, having conversations collectively about where do we go, what

3247
04:15:39,160 --> 04:15:41,520
do you want to see, how do things happen.

3248
04:15:42,920 --> 04:15:44,560
And then where do we go from here?

3249
04:15:45,100 --> 04:15:49,280
You know, when do you want to meet again, what is the number of projects, the 2, 5, 10,

3250
04:15:49,280 --> 04:15:50,700
Please don't pick 27,

3251
04:15:52,940 --> 04:15:58,120
but if you chose 27 we figured out and then, you know, how do you want your department has participation?

3252
04:15:58,660 --> 04:16:06,840
At this point in time, the council directed and invited the staff, the department heads into these conversations to sit at the table with them.

3253
04:16:06,840 --> 04:16:09,600
It was a very open conversation with all of you.

3254
04:16:10,100 --> 04:16:14,120
Does the council want to make this theirs and then bring staff back as a resource?

3255
04:16:14,300 --> 04:16:19,260
Do you want to continue this as an open table conversation with all your department heads and director levels?

3256
04:16:19,260 --> 04:16:25,500
stuff. So, those are the questions I have. You guys have lots of meetings on your calendar right now

3257
04:16:25,500 --> 04:16:32,840
because it's summer and we're writing the budget. Maybe tomorrow we'll have less stress on that,

3258
04:16:33,540 --> 04:16:39,520
but who knows? But we wanted to get back to you. I don't want you to feel like we met on the 22nd

3259
04:16:39,520 --> 04:16:45,460
and it just late. It's been laying fellow. It hasn't been. It's just, you know, first things,

3260
04:16:45,460 --> 04:16:47,020
first last things never, right?

3261
04:16:47,400 --> 04:16:49,240
And that's part of the reason for the conversation

3262
04:16:49,240 --> 04:16:50,100
about the number of projects.

3263
04:16:50,120 --> 04:16:52,520
You want to unpack, and which ones do you want to do?

3264
04:16:52,580 --> 04:16:55,920
If you don't want to do the top five, you could pick three

3265
04:16:55,920 --> 04:16:58,120
projects on here that you feel are the most pressing

3266
04:16:58,120 --> 04:17:01,460
for the council involvement, and we could choose those

3267
04:17:01,460 --> 04:17:02,300
the ones to unpack.

3268
04:17:03,000 --> 04:17:06,500
And I think with the mayor and council room wrestle,

3269
04:17:07,140 --> 04:17:09,280
if you have something to add, I think that's kind of where

3270
04:17:09,280 --> 04:17:12,020
we're at for this process to start talking that way.

3271
04:17:12,360 --> 04:17:14,400
And then start talking about where we go from here.

3272
04:17:17,410 --> 04:17:21,010
Thank you, Nicole, for all your work on this.

3273
04:17:22,030 --> 04:17:28,430
My first impression would be to schedule another meeting.

3274
04:17:30,670 --> 04:17:34,210
And I'm sort of leaning toward maybe we tackle the top three.

3275
04:17:35,330 --> 04:17:43,130
First, in my opinion, the office in the storage space should be an easy one to knock off this list.

3276
04:17:43,130 --> 04:17:55,870
There's been money in the budget for the clerk mayor office revision as well as the community hall desk space.

3277
04:17:57,570 --> 04:18:07,510
So I would feel comfortable tackling the top three with the thought that number three could be pretty well taken care of rather quickly.

3278
04:18:07,510 --> 04:18:19,150
and we have the funding. So let's just get it done and then I don't know. I haven't

3279
04:18:19,150 --> 04:18:24,910
thought about I think we just need to discuss if this is a council workshop only

3280
04:18:24,910 --> 04:18:26,030
maybe initially.

3281
04:18:29,270 --> 04:18:30,190
Any other thoughts?

3282
04:18:34,360 --> 04:18:37,140
Mr. May area. Council on Russell I agree I was

3283
04:18:37,140 --> 04:18:41,680
going to go with the three but not necessarily the top three and I was going to

3284
04:18:41,680 --> 04:18:45,200
off a little bit more than I think we could chew by popping in the comprehensive plants,

3285
04:18:45,400 --> 04:18:49,760
but I like the office storage spaces that are a third option, so at least we can have something

3286
04:18:49,760 --> 04:18:55,560
that we can check off as far as timing goes. I think potentially doing it just as a

3287
04:18:55,560 --> 04:19:03,900
council only and maybe a little bit more towards September-ish. If that makes a little bit more sense,

3288
04:19:03,900 --> 04:19:11,080
kind of get off the summer a little bit and through budget stuff and we can tackle this word cloud

3289
04:19:11,080 --> 04:19:13,300
again, do another one.

3290
04:19:13,580 --> 04:19:14,200
It was fun, right?

3291
04:19:14,260 --> 04:19:15,100
It was.

3292
04:19:15,800 --> 04:19:16,380
Mr. Mayor.

3293
04:19:17,880 --> 04:19:18,320
I agree.

3294
04:19:18,340 --> 04:19:20,200
I think initially Council only.

3295
04:19:20,540 --> 04:19:25,520
But then as we break it down, maybe, and it's more specific, we bring in the appropriate

3296
04:19:25,520 --> 04:19:27,980
Department has, like, smaller conversations.

3297
04:19:28,200 --> 04:19:29,480
I think the first one was great.

3298
04:19:29,560 --> 04:19:30,100
It was great.

3299
04:19:30,280 --> 04:19:33,760
Kind of a meet and greet, get to know where everybody's coming from, and what they do.

3300
04:19:34,000 --> 04:19:35,200
So I really enjoyed that.

3301
04:19:35,640 --> 04:19:39,440
So I'd like us to have another great, you know, one that includes everybody.

3302
04:19:39,440 --> 04:19:49,740
But initially I think to get started just council and then one or two department heads and not a few things out and then we move on and bring in the other ones

3303
04:19:52,050 --> 04:19:57,300
So I do like putting some effort into the comp plan too. So I would agree with

3304
04:20:00,500 --> 04:20:06,000
And fall sounds great.

3305
04:20:07,040 --> 04:20:07,460
Cool.

3306
04:20:08,980 --> 04:20:14,440
On the call question, number one, on the staffing. Aren't you already addressing that in your budget

3307
04:20:14,440 --> 04:20:17,720
requests, the different departments and their budget requests?

3308
04:20:18,600 --> 04:20:22,260
So, why is that? Why is that in the number one priority now?

3309
04:20:22,860 --> 04:20:29,820
Well, it's number one based upon the number of times a staffing issue came up as part of the word cloud process.

3310
04:20:29,820 --> 04:20:36,320
that, that, that voting process. And that's part of what needs to be discussed is what, what's next?

3311
04:20:36,380 --> 04:20:42,280
We knew the fiscal year 25 budget would address some of it. But you have some things in here still that are dealing with

3312
04:20:45,300 --> 04:20:53,660
reconfiguration, organizational structure, in-house versus contract staff. And some things like that that maybe

3313
04:20:53,660 --> 04:20:58,700
part of your budget, but they may not be completely unpacked at the council level as to

3314
04:20:58,700 --> 04:21:00,660
directives and how they want to move forward.

3315
04:21:01,760 --> 04:21:02,380
So, okay.

3316
04:21:03,260 --> 04:21:08,440
And I will say this after having gone through the horrible Jackson property the other day.

3317
04:21:08,800 --> 04:21:14,440
I think we're really a miss by not putting more emphasis on that.

3318
04:21:14,480 --> 04:21:16,900
I didn't realize it until I went through that.

3319
04:21:17,280 --> 04:21:18,400
That was I opening.

3320
04:21:20,160 --> 04:21:26,200
Yeah, I mean Mayor, Mayor, and Councilman Kwame, I mean we're all Jackson and property has

3321
04:21:26,200 --> 04:21:30,900
85,000 dollars in the budget for Carey 4. Certainly there's some structural integrity

3322
04:21:30,900 --> 04:21:36,600
but I also provided to you the concept of using some of your ARPA funds to do a strategic

3323
04:21:36,600 --> 04:21:40,720
plan for that facility. What are we doing with it? Because that was the challenge we had

3324
04:21:40,720 --> 04:21:45,100
when we dealt with the old park place extension and did we want to sell the property,

3325
04:21:48,360 --> 04:21:48,380
this

3326
04:21:48,380 --> 04:21:50,920
know what that looks like, agreed.

3327
04:21:52,720 --> 04:21:56,000
You know, that's kind of why I recommend it that we get a committee that accelerates

3328
04:21:56,000 --> 04:21:57,360
that activity.

3329
04:21:58,700 --> 04:22:05,840
Mr. Mayor, and I think after our walk through the Jackson House, Eric was there, and

3330
04:22:05,840 --> 04:22:11,200
he had said that they identified the roof in the chimney, you know, the structural things,

3331
04:22:11,660 --> 04:22:16,940
but then with the investment in the, you know, time passage, it's good to give the residents,

3332
04:22:16,940 --> 04:22:21,980
You know, the visual that we're taking care of their, their investment there and clean up the outside

3333
04:22:22,480 --> 04:22:25,320
and tackle the yard and just kind of do a basic cleanup.

3334
04:22:26,360 --> 04:22:31,920
And then have the meetings and committee work to decide, well, what are we going to do on the inside?

3335
04:22:32,900 --> 04:22:37,780
But, yeah, clean it up on the outside and let people know that we're not wasting their money.

3336
04:22:39,320 --> 04:22:42,920
So just as a clarification of what I heard, top three are staffing,

3337
04:22:42,920 --> 04:22:50,060
foot hills and opens office a storage space unless I'm hearing that you want the jackson house to be brought for.

3338
04:22:52,960 --> 04:22:59,120
I'm hearing these are going to be initially council discussions about how and what we want to see.

3339
04:22:59,400 --> 04:23:03,420
You want to see and then finally the next meeting would be in September timeline.

3340
04:23:03,820 --> 04:23:05,060
I don't want you to think that I'm ignoring you.

3341
04:23:06,360 --> 04:23:09,040
So we started this in May and now we're in July.

3342
04:23:09,040 --> 04:23:24,160
And if you want it to go to September, I'm happy to move it to September, because that makes things like breathe easily, or easily easier, but I just want to make sure that we're not, it's not laying fallow for you to feel like we just ignored what was going forward.

3343
04:23:24,440 --> 04:23:31,180
So is that correct? I mean, it's not emotion. It's just kind of a, yeah, that sounds comfortable from moving forward.

3344
04:23:31,440 --> 04:23:32,140
Sounds good.

3345
04:23:32,140 --> 04:23:40,160
So I'll continue to work with Mayor Pike and Councilwoman Russell on how we scope these moving forward and get you ready for a workshop in September.

3346
04:23:40,600 --> 04:23:43,840
Yeah. And we're not going to have fiscal planning now, the budget.

3347
04:23:44,060 --> 04:23:52,220
I mean, we can, we can. We could budget the fill and move that outer. And I think to one of the other things is to move forward with the Jackson House.

3348
04:23:52,320 --> 04:24:00,300
We need to figure out who's going to do the work. So that's a component within the staffing. And I like the fact that it's got retention and legacy planning too.

3349
04:24:00,300 --> 04:24:07,240
But I think also job attract men as well, too, to bring in additional staffing and fill some

3350
04:24:07,240 --> 04:24:07,600
gaps.

3351
04:24:08,400 --> 04:24:09,900
So thanks Nicole for your color coding.

3352
04:24:11,160 --> 04:24:12,260
Makes it so much easier.

3353
04:24:13,080 --> 04:24:13,380
That's too much.

3354
04:24:13,380 --> 04:24:14,860
God bless you and your spreadsheets.

3355
04:24:16,100 --> 04:24:17,120
I don't know how to do those.

3356
04:24:17,960 --> 04:24:18,440
Council.

3357
04:24:18,760 --> 04:24:19,700
I think you've got direction.

3358
04:24:19,960 --> 04:24:20,060
Correct.

3359
04:24:20,060 --> 04:24:20,320
I do.

3360
04:24:20,440 --> 04:24:21,460
Thank you.

3361
04:24:21,560 --> 04:24:21,820
Thanks.

3362
04:24:22,780 --> 04:24:23,100
All right.

3363
04:24:23,540 --> 04:24:28,760
We're going to move on to number 11, which I assume the people that are still here want to do public

3364
04:24:28,760 --> 04:24:29,200
comment.

3365
04:24:29,200 --> 04:24:33,680
Now the time is reserved for the public to address their elected officials regarding concerns

3366
04:24:33,680 --> 04:24:34,460
and comments.

3367
04:24:34,460 --> 04:24:39,320
They would like to provide for the City Council regarding any matter up to and including

3368
04:24:39,320 --> 04:24:43,860
any subject on the agenda with the exception of public hearing and land use items.

3369
04:24:44,280 --> 04:24:48,560
Comments regarding public hearing and land use items need to be made during the open public

3370
04:24:48,560 --> 04:24:52,980
comment portion for said items in accordance with the Idaho code.

3371
04:24:52,980 --> 04:24:59,480
At times, the City Council may seek comments, opinions regarding specific city matters.

3372
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:26,900
The public hearing, a land use item, stirring there a lot of time. Out of courtesy for all the whoish to speak, the city council request that each speaker be limited in their comments to three minutes. Okay. So, who would like to, I think, Pete, you had written, Pete, I want Pete to be able to go first because he wrote his name down there and then he came up on a different time. So, you have Pete up, Pete will come up and then paddle up and then anybody else wants to speak, maybe, Brent.

3373
04:25:29,380 --> 04:25:30,300
What are they?

3374
04:25:31,360 --> 04:25:35,310
Yeah, okay. Yeah, go ahead. I mean make sure the clerk gets one.

3375
04:25:39,140 --> 04:25:42,220
I thought maybe they were money or something.

3376
04:25:54,740 --> 04:26:01,260
I'm Peter Robbins, 138 South Fandries Avenue, I'd like to apologize for speaking out

3377
04:26:01,260 --> 04:26:09,420
of turn in my ignorance of city procedure, but here we are. Last November I brought a matter

3378
04:26:09,420 --> 04:26:15,000
to the council's attention and to the best of my knowledge, absolutely nothing's been

3379
04:26:15,000 --> 04:26:21,380
done about it. So I thought I'd bring it up one more time. I've got some pictures of old

3380
04:26:21,380 --> 04:26:29,900
valley road, which is one of the main entranceways into my development river walk. And it is

3381
04:26:29,900 --> 04:26:36,530
getting worse and worse every day. It's like all these trailers and garbage trucks and

3382
04:26:36,530 --> 04:26:40,050
RVs and cars parked all along these roads.

3383
04:26:40,770 --> 04:26:46,390
And I don't know if this is a city issue or an ACHD issue

3384
04:26:46,390 --> 04:26:50,550
or what it is, but I'm asking for some help.

3385
04:26:51,350 --> 04:26:54,010
Some of my neighbors called the police the other day.

3386
04:26:54,450 --> 04:26:54,610
They came.

3387
04:26:54,610 --> 04:26:57,930
They stuck a couple orange stickers on a couple of the trailers

3388
04:26:57,930 --> 04:27:00,570
and then they just kind of shuffled them around

3389
04:27:00,570 --> 04:27:04,770
so that they're within the letter of the law.

3390
04:27:04,770 --> 04:27:12,410
But I can't believe that this is the spirit of the law, or what we want equal to be.

3391
04:27:12,830 --> 04:27:16,530
So I'm just asking for a little bit of help.

3392
04:27:18,150 --> 04:27:24,830
I think the solution is you post no parking signs along the road, and somebody might say,

3393
04:27:25,130 --> 04:27:26,630
well, we can't do that, but you can.

3394
04:27:26,630 --> 04:27:33,350
And I don't know how else to enforce it, because the police don't have the time or effort

3395
04:27:34,010 --> 04:27:41,390
to patrol this tiny little stretch of road, and it is a big mess, and it's an eye sore

3396
04:27:41,390 --> 04:27:47,250
to our neighborhood, and we would just like to get something done about it.

3397
04:27:47,250 --> 04:27:49,330
So I'm just asking for some help.

3398
04:27:49,470 --> 04:27:56,550
I'm just a little guy, sits in this wood shop all day long, and makes saw dust, and I don't

3399
04:27:56,550 --> 04:28:02,550
know how to get it done. So I'm just asking for some help. Thank you.

3400
04:28:03,890 --> 04:28:09,550
Well, we, I could tell you Peter, thank you your comments and your concerns. And we,

3401
04:28:09,730 --> 04:28:15,730
we have addressed it a couple of asking for what we can do. But it is an ACHD road.

3402
04:28:16,070 --> 04:28:20,590
I don't want to just palm that off as an excuse, but we'll have that conversation once again

3403
04:28:20,590 --> 04:28:26,790
to see where it's at, but just like you said earlier, is they can 72 hours, they can

3404
04:28:26,790 --> 04:28:31,970
scoot it up half a turn on the wheel, and they're legally, yeah, better the law they're

3405
04:28:31,970 --> 04:28:32,350
compliant.

3406
04:28:32,430 --> 04:28:35,010
I hear the law they're not, I agree with that.

3407
04:28:35,010 --> 04:28:40,010
That's why you have to post no parking sign to, and to get to that level, that's that would

3408
04:28:40,010 --> 04:28:42,910
be something that I think we have to work through ACG-4.

3409
04:28:43,410 --> 04:28:49,290
And if I call ACHG, they're going to, you know, hang up on me because I think we'll contact

3410
04:28:49,290 --> 04:28:56,990
I will contact him. I mean, again, I mean, we have a conversation. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you.

3411
04:28:57,190 --> 04:28:58,070
It's been.

3412
04:28:58,090 --> 04:28:58,510
Thank you.

3413
04:28:58,510 --> 04:29:00,050
You still have me in your entire body.

3414
04:29:01,050 --> 04:29:03,490
I still owe me a guitar by the way.

3415
04:29:04,010 --> 04:29:05,130
We're going to wait and wait at the car.

3416
04:29:05,610 --> 04:29:07,970
Any time you would like, you have to talk to the guitars.

3417
04:29:08,030 --> 04:29:09,650
Oh, you do. Oh, wow.

3418
04:29:10,710 --> 04:29:11,090
So, yeah.

3419
04:29:11,530 --> 04:29:11,850
Thank you.

3420
04:29:12,190 --> 04:29:14,250
Thanks for hanging with us.

3421
04:29:14,430 --> 04:29:15,750
All right.

3422
04:29:16,710 --> 04:29:18,370
Thanks Pat. You're up.

3423
04:29:24,160 --> 04:29:31,060
Mr. Mayor, council members, my name is Pat Chapman, I'm 1, 5, 7, 0 and North

3424
04:29:31,060 --> 04:29:42,000
Presbycway, and I wanted to comment on Resolution 24-09 Eagle Senior Center

3425
04:29:42,000 --> 04:29:48,220
Use policy, and I'm disappointed that I couldn't comment on it before you took the vote

3426
04:29:48,220 --> 04:29:50,160
because now it's already in place.

3427
04:29:50,160 --> 04:29:54,640
But I thought I'd stay up and come in on it anyway.

3428
04:29:55,660 --> 04:29:59,940
As most of you know, I'm pretty active in the with the seniors.

3429
04:30:01,060 --> 04:30:15,940
And when it was the non-profit, I was active there. And the reason I went to come in on it is because of the fee schedule that you now have set up.

3430
04:30:19,370 --> 04:30:21,910
when Pat, we don't have Pat,

3431
04:30:21,910 --> 04:30:23,330
which is a non-profit.

3432
04:30:23,850 --> 04:30:27,190
Pat, we don't have a fee schedule yet.

3433
04:30:27,510 --> 04:30:29,270
We, that'll be coming, Pat.

3434
04:30:29,710 --> 04:30:30,410
That's not bad.

3435
04:30:30,510 --> 04:30:31,570
And I apologize.

3436
04:30:31,830 --> 04:30:35,490
My hearing aid batteries went dead a while back,

3437
04:30:35,490 --> 04:30:36,850
and I can't hear squat.

3438
04:30:37,290 --> 04:30:40,430
You're good though, but we have not set the fee up yet.

3439
04:30:40,670 --> 04:30:42,070
Tracy, it's just alluded to that.

3440
04:30:42,070 --> 04:30:44,850
We're going to come back with what the fees are.

3441
04:30:45,170 --> 04:30:45,790
So yeah.

3442
04:30:45,790 --> 04:30:48,670
This was just to use. It's just to use the alcohol.

3443
04:30:53,700 --> 04:30:56,520
Well, there's there is no fees yet established.

3444
04:30:57,060 --> 04:31:02,220
We will get yeah, we will get back not yet. We will be working on that and we'll get back to you.

3445
04:31:02,220 --> 04:31:06,340
Okay, well, let me comment down. Okay, get back to the microphone so you can on the.

3446
04:31:06,820 --> 04:31:07,180
Thank

3447
04:31:12,850 --> 04:31:15,630
you. Okay. Anyway,

3448
04:31:21,160 --> 04:31:26,300
by the way, when that was the non-profit, it was just an old building.

3449
04:31:26,960 --> 04:31:32,500
And I was just kind of neutral in myself between the controversy between the non-profit

3450
04:31:32,500 --> 04:31:33,060
in the city.

3451
04:31:33,160 --> 04:31:33,880
I was kind of neutral.

3452
04:31:34,020 --> 04:31:35,440
I was happy the way it was.

3453
04:31:36,060 --> 04:31:38,880
Now it is so much better with the city.

3454
04:31:39,660 --> 04:31:46,700
It is just so much in a lot of ways, it is so much better and it is a place where you want

3455
04:31:46,700 --> 04:31:47,080
to be.

3456
04:31:47,080 --> 04:31:49,680
Now, we're before, we're just an old building.

3457
04:31:50,500 --> 04:31:55,080
But anyway, I belong to the 80 county life

3458
04:31:55,080 --> 04:31:56,000
put militia.

3459
04:31:56,080 --> 04:31:58,800
Back in the day, we always had our meetings there.

3460
04:31:58,940 --> 04:32:00,240
The first two, the of the month.

3461
04:32:00,600 --> 04:32:04,120
And I also know there's a church group that has their meetings

3462
04:32:04,120 --> 04:32:05,960
there, and I don't know who else.

3463
04:32:07,420 --> 04:32:10,660
And as far as establishing a fee schedule,

3464
04:32:10,840 --> 04:32:14,440
I'm looking at the parks there, available after five o'clock

3465
04:32:14,440 --> 04:32:22,720
on Saturdays and weekends, a library is available after five o'clock, and then Saturdays and

3466
04:32:22,720 --> 04:32:30,400
Sundays, and the city has to pay for all those that for after hours use. When we use that building,

3467
04:32:31,120 --> 04:32:36,860
I, with a nonprofit, with Crystal, when she was there, with Brian now managing that,

3468
04:32:38,300 --> 04:32:44,200
commit to them a personal responsibility that we will leave it equal to or better than we found it.

3469
04:32:44,440 --> 04:32:48,400
And I make sure that all the tables and chairs are in place.

3470
04:32:48,600 --> 04:32:52,580
There's no trash, if there's no trash, the lights are turned off.

3471
04:32:52,780 --> 04:32:54,520
The doors, I'm always the last one out.

3472
04:32:54,760 --> 04:32:56,000
Make sure the doors are locked.

3473
04:32:56,560 --> 04:33:00,520
Everything is in place equal to or better than we found it.

3474
04:33:02,280 --> 04:33:06,180
And like many groups, you know, you need a venue to meet,

3475
04:33:06,820 --> 04:33:08,180
but you don't have any money.

3476
04:33:08,380 --> 04:33:09,240
Some people do.

3477
04:33:09,240 --> 04:33:15,780
I doubt that the church group is there because they don't have any money.

3478
04:33:16,400 --> 04:33:23,720
In fact, one night, well, let us see what's in meeting before last, there is an AA group

3479
04:33:23,720 --> 04:33:29,240
that couldn't use their normal facility that particular night.

3480
04:33:29,560 --> 04:33:37,320
We just moved over and used the other part for our meeting, and so we just take care of it

3481
04:33:37,320 --> 04:33:43,980
And I would be very disappointed if we do have to have a fee schedule.

3482
04:33:44,540 --> 04:33:53,480
The EMT training Saturday morning, we did pay for that at that time, but there's a lot

3483
04:33:53,480 --> 04:33:53,880
of it.

3484
04:33:53,880 --> 04:33:59,920
And I wanted to talk to you later, Ron, about that meeting as a venue for the SIRT training,

3485
04:34:00,360 --> 04:34:00,780
which we've done.

3486
04:34:01,000 --> 04:34:02,860
And we'll work on all that for it.

3487
04:34:03,140 --> 04:34:03,540
We can talk to you later.

3488
04:34:03,540 --> 04:34:04,240
I know it's after.

3489
04:34:04,480 --> 04:34:05,380
No, thanks, Pat.

3490
04:34:05,780 --> 04:34:14,780
Okay, thank you for. Thank you for. Thanks. All right, Brent. I know you want to come. I figure everybody has been sitting here with the steps in maybe Matt. Let's talk.

3491
04:34:24,500 --> 04:34:39,000
My name is Brent Brockson. I love it. I'm 42 East Riversong. I decided to stay, which has my bedtime too, but because I want to talk to you about a couple things and it's important. The five day.

3492
04:34:39,600 --> 04:34:44,900
written comment time frame that you have on all these hearings it's impossible these people

3493
04:34:44,900 --> 04:34:50,360
that did this all this work and you did accept them tonight which was really generous

3494
04:34:50,360 --> 04:34:56,360
of you I understand that but I had a hard time myself you saw my letters for the planning

3495
04:34:56,360 --> 04:34:59,560
and zoning I couldn't get it in because I had a holiday.

3496
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:11,580
And I mean, I'm whole and I don't type very good. But I mean, trying to get the document documentation ready to present to you folks within a five day time horizon is just impossible.

3497
04:35:12,100 --> 04:35:20,560
And all these people that came, you know, some of them talked to me and I'm just like, I mean, they're not accepted if you don't meet this five.

3498
04:35:20,820 --> 04:35:29,280
And I would have not got mine in. If my cabinet called me, I know him. I called him because the first time I asked for public records.

3499
04:35:29,280 --> 04:35:33,220
but that's a three-day minimum and sometimes longer.

3500
04:35:33,760 --> 04:35:36,860
And during that period of time we had a holiday then too.

3501
04:35:37,200 --> 04:35:39,080
So that was a problem.

3502
04:35:39,660 --> 04:35:41,720
And you all know this, because you're sitting here,

3503
04:35:41,840 --> 04:35:43,960
I can't imagine why you signed up for this.

3504
04:35:45,220 --> 04:35:48,520
But you all know this, and it's really difficult for us,

3505
04:35:48,840 --> 04:35:51,580
as citizens, and I mean, I'm a former legislator,

3506
04:35:51,860 --> 04:35:52,240
all of that.

3507
04:35:52,400 --> 04:35:55,680
It's still difficult for me to come up and testify.

3508
04:35:56,420 --> 04:35:57,520
I used to do it all the time,

3509
04:35:57,520 --> 04:36:01,840
and all that, and never bothered me, it bothers me a lot now because you have Mike Williams who

3510
04:36:02,360 --> 04:36:11,340
is an absolute expert at everything pertaining to this stuff. So how do an ACHD, how do I go and say,

3511
04:36:11,460 --> 04:36:18,320
well, ACHD, what Mike Williams said was incorrect about ACHD, how can I say that? Because you're an expert

3512
04:36:18,320 --> 04:36:24,480
at that, you already know the answer to that. So it really puts us citizens in a disadvantage. I mean,

3513
04:36:24,480 --> 04:36:29,120
I think you probably already know that everyone speaks their mind to the extent they can and

3514
04:36:29,120 --> 04:36:32,200
want them, but try to be professional and all of that.

3515
04:36:32,200 --> 04:36:35,340
Some get on a hand and all at you've heard all of it, I'm sure.

3516
04:36:35,900 --> 04:36:41,200
But please reconsider the five days, because that is just almost impossible for the average

3517
04:36:41,200 --> 04:36:45,420
citizen to do if especially something that's big, like this big subdivision.

3518
04:36:46,320 --> 04:36:48,320
There's so many nuances in that.

3519
04:36:48,380 --> 04:36:51,960
You could say about the eagles, you could do, you know, pick your battle, you could go,

3520
04:36:51,960 --> 04:36:53,540
there's 30 things, you know?

3521
04:36:54,360 --> 04:36:57,620
And so it's impossible really to do it in five days

3522
04:36:57,620 --> 04:37:00,020
and do a really good job unless you're hiring,

3523
04:37:00,040 --> 04:37:01,900
turning in to have a staff to do it.

3524
04:37:02,180 --> 04:37:03,480
So anyway, that was my comments.

3525
04:37:03,720 --> 04:37:04,600
Thanks so much.

3526
04:37:04,900 --> 04:37:05,740
Thank you so much.

3527
04:37:05,740 --> 04:37:05,840
Thank you so much.

3528
04:37:06,000 --> 04:37:06,180
Thank you.

3529
04:37:09,360 --> 04:37:12,180
All right, well, we do not have any executive session tonight.

3530
04:37:13,740 --> 04:37:16,800
So yeah, so I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

3531
04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:18,160
Oh, motion to adjourn.

3532
04:37:18,800 --> 04:37:19,040
Oh.

3533
04:37:20,660 --> 04:37:22,980
OK, we have about, I think we have about it.

3534
04:37:22,980 --> 04:37:28,500
We have a motion in a second. Okay. All in favor say aye. I. I. I. Meeting each other. Thank you.