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We give a mic to the mic five.

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I did read my calendar right now.

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We're just going to wait on mic for a few minutes and then we'll start after we get to that clock's off

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more women's off that's two minutes nothing's right

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so I like your class thank you yeah they like those frames I'm like I'm

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getting to an age where just the glasses are all I need

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Eat your sleep right now.

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get joint roll calls, please.

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We're going to get right into it.

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We have new business.

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I'm going to ask you.

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You're going to be connected.

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City of Eagle and the Parks Pathways Recreation Commission

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Joint Work session on Planc.

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Opportunities here.

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And Christina, did you want to start off there?

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Do you want to come up here?

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I was everyone doing today.

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We have a, I believe it's crazy.

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Thank you everyone for having us back for our second

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joint work session.

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we came in April and went through some of the initial visioning and overall

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project information and now we have been working on our needs assessment.

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And our first questionnaire, and so we're going to give you feedback of different trends, needs, and benchmarks that we've analyzed over the past couple months.

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And then the main purpose of today is to provide direction to us and the project advisory team on the preliminary opportunities ahead of public input, which is coming up quick.

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It's in two weeks, the mayor and I just recorded the mayor minute that's going to go out and

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Just went out today to announce December 14th meeting, so I can mention that to you guys here

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So, I'm going to do a little bit of a presentation, so for you to ask any questions on that

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need assessment and the questionnaire.

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opportunities based on all of that analysis, based on also the site visit that we had for

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all the topics, parks, pathways, recreation, open space, operations and implementation, and so

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we'll have discussion. We'll talk a little bit about some of the feedback that we got at the advisory

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work group just a couple of hours ago. So the stakeholders, again, that's like different agencies,

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it accounting as well as interest groups,

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like facts, the swim bud, those types of groups as well.

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so we can share a little bit about that.

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Again, looking for your feedback to provide us some discussion.

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Just a quick reminder of the schedule small, but phase one

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is what we're going to present to you the findings of that analysis.

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that's what we've worked through the past couple months since we have got contracted and then

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face cues where we are now and so we've been working with staff to come up with a preliminary

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opportunities. Now we're here getting your feedback and then we'll go to the public and then

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at the end of that opportunities phase will be drafting the plan and putting together those opportunities

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into final recommendations, and then doing some prioritization and some initial development

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of the plan, which will be later this fall, and then approvals become in the spring.

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So, just as a reminder, some of the plan goals that we establish is to create a five-year

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ways are longer than that, like that we can get done in five years, but having that initial

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vision is important, having things down on paper so we have that connectivity we can

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have, we can look forward, this isn't like your capital improvements plan, it's something

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that is visionary and then at the end of the document we can highlight with those key five-year

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implementation pieces are. The other goal was to incorporate parks, trails, pathways, recreation,

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open space, all of those topics, because they're all related, they're all interconnected into

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one planning effort into one document so that you have a guiding document that you can refer

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back to, planning can refer back to it. Public Works can refer back to it, everyone can be on

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the same page and it's all in the same document. And then that plan will address various gaps and

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the changes and demographics that we're seeing, the growth in the city. And so we could improve

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activity, we can prove the system, we can maintain that high quality of service and level of

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service for your residents and visitors. And that goes along with incorporating the foothills

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communities into that because that's part of that growth and then looking at optimizing your

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operations and your implementation as well and making sure that we're all in the same page and then

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looking at the partnerships and funding as well.

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So the need to session, I think Douglas, you pointed out,

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the 80-page document, the packet, I send to you.

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So this was part of that, I'm not going to go over all

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every single detail that's in that document,

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but did want to highlight a few key pieces,

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some information that we came out of mostly

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around that trends in the benchmarking point.

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But it did start off with a review of existing plans

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and policies that also includes other departments

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or other agency and departments plans.

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So we looked at like ACHD's encompasses plans for connectivity, for transportation, state park plan, master plan, and then also a number of development plans and future development plans.

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As well. And then the committee profile, we went over that a little bit last time about demographics are changing. More families are moving into the community, growing into that is another reason why we're doing this plan is to look at those demographics and making sure that we're growing with that demand and making sure we're addressing that those demographics.

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So then we're mostly going to focus on today, the participation trends, the recreation analysis,

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and the staffing and funding analysis.

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I'll just jump right in.

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Quick overview.

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I made this point with the advisory work group earlier.

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Just to kind of summarize and go over what the city manages and what we're talking about when we incorporate all these different topics.

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So again, yeah, city manager's 16 parks,

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about over 400 acres.

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and also grounds, so like the public works manages

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and most of the landscaping around this building, for example.

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So that includes all of the elements that the staff

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is responsible for and that's important

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when we talk about the staffing and the funding

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and making sure that we're maintaining, you know, beautiful places as well as keeping that

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going for the future. But only, but so, about only 123 of those acres are developed.

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And when we say developed, that means like our true playground, ballfields, type of parks.

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And the rest is that trails, the grounds, or open space, like up at the target shooting area.

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32 miles of trails, I didn't break this down, but this does include your path, your

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paves, like dream belt trails, for example, and does include natural surface trails, and

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then also the bike park trails.

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So I think about eight or nine of those are bike park trails, and so that is incorporated into

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that total trails number.

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Okay, we're going to get some trends here, so we talked about a little bit this last time,

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but it's wanted to highlight some of the trends and why some of the opportunities will be

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discuss is looking at the needs for future recreation potential and some of this may

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look lower but that's because it's not necessarily a facility in your community. So it's

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another thing to think about like there's demand for yeah pickable and hiking and

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biking but there's also demand for some of those lower ones but that's because

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there's we need facilities for those. So two ways to look at that is that we have

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facilities and people still want more of them. And then, if we don't have facilities, that we also need to think about what we need to

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provide to the community and how that shapes future parks.

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I guess I was, I go play understand.

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I just think to help me understand that just a little bit more, like, for example, baseball.

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What does that 86 mean? Are you saying that it's that number because I'm not sure what you meant by that?

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Yeah, so the percentage is if the national average is 100, that's like your baseline. Anything above that.

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So like pickleball is 142% there is a higher demand in the immediate area for that.

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under that's lower than the national.

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So because you say that is a combination of the survey or looking at demographics, or

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available fields.

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So this isn't the questionnaire yet, and we'll get to that.

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This is just an analysis that is available through a national survey and a national database

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of information.

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So we're saying that pickle ball is we have more potential we should build more pickle ball than baseball fields is what this is saying

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And it's saying here that the lack of interest would reflect that or low numbers can be limited facilities

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So is it that we have a larger population playing soccer, but we have some facilities versus pickle ball. We don't have any fist, you know, maybe no facilities within the city

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How is that reflected because this could sway people make decisions saying, if I'm

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looking at this, I'm going, well, we need more bicycle lanes and pickle ball courts,

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but I would imagine there's a huge contingency of youth, soccer, basketball that would

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And that is the questioner shows that, so yeah, we are going to be looking at multiple

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different sources that we need to come to a discussion, and I'm going to take some

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And the other here is the teams of the ground.

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That's the session's case, that's not the case.

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That's not the case. That's not the case.

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That's not the case. That's not the case. That's not the case.

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And it's not private either, or call the community.

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A lot of these things that they have.

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That's the right thing.

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But there's

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a local, local trust.

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They're pretty sure you want to explain local trends a little more broadly.

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because we're the side discussion was, is this eagles perception, it's not, you said,

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a national but average, but it does not take into account private entities that have

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their own businesses with pickable courts and Pilates suites and all that kind of stuff, right?

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Yeah, so this isn't from the questionnaire, this isn't what people said they want, this

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is from a national survey of market potential based on variety of factors that can be produced

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for every community as well.

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So this is local two eagle, so the market trends for star would be different, but it's based

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on a national database.

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Is that national data, is that national data, and what part of that national data is

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eagle data?

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This is reporting for eagle.

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So if you would go over to star, it might look a little different, but it's a methodology

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that's based on national data.

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That's all, correct.

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So Christina then, when you talk about the national trends and we're talking about population

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and the national trends toward the east, would have a much different population and it needs

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towards the west, are you factoring the difference in the places of where the survey is taken like that?

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It seems like if we do a national one that the west always comes on the backside of it because we are hikers and bikers

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and that we're not city folks doing the city of STEM.

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Yeah, so it is, is this specific to Eagle,

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but it's comes from looking at national trends.

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But we are.

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What do you plug in from Eagle to make it, Eagle data, too?

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It's pulling from a variety of criteria and factors.

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That's based on like a national methodology.

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So I could go pull this data for Boisie, for Star, for Pocatello, I could go, you know,

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pull it for Washington, and you can see, and it's not based on like asking asking participants,

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and so we'll get to that, we'll get to what we ask the community.

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So, Margaret Bevizio, if Ego had, we just built 200 pickleball courts in this community,

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this still wouldn't change that number because it's just taking national averages,

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basic demographic data, and actually not taking it on account, but we have.

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Correct. Yeah, what else are that?

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Kind of looking at like a national, like real estate database,

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and someone like, someone like, someone like, I want to put build a new restaurant. Is that a good idea?

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Is that not a good idea? Is there a market potential for a red lobster or is there a market potential

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for some high-scale fine dining.

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And so it's not going and asking the residents of Eagle.

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Should I build a red-lesser?

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Should I build a fine dining?

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It's looking at more of a national thing,

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but it is specific to Eagle.

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Is it for a while enough?

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But property value is primary.

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That's just, um, I'd have to get back to you

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only with a specific criteria.

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But yeah, it's like profiling the demographics of this community.

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those types of numbers, the national trends, that those are numbers that are used

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like with voici Valley economic partnership when they go out on the broader scale to start recruiting companies,

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what companies would they go with, etc. So more and more on the upper level than what we're...

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Correct. So that's why, yeah, we've paired the needs assessment.

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What has it changed for that?

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inspired by the need of assessment with the questionnaires which I'll go over in a little bit as well.

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So next we looked at through discussions with the department and comparison with what we see nationally the recreation analysis of focusing on what you currently provide.

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So we know you provide city recreation programs related to use and adult recreation programs about the senior programs across the street, but there's no other like big recreation facility.

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So it's just a gap that we that we know is out there, coaches and staff are primarily volunteers, which is typical across most communities, but also comes with its challenges.

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of maintaining the spokes,

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and a lot of programs reach capacity.

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So looking at your recreation numbers, most of the programs are reaching capacity.

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So we're going to consider that into your new types of facilities that we might have.

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So for staffing, we looked at the two primary divisions responsible,

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public works and like we need fairs responsible for these types of services and amenities.

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Of course, public works also provides services like water, infrastructure, and fiber optics.

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So we just focused on the full-time equivalent that are related to the parks and open-source

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trails as well. So we have a number of staffing that's related to maintaining and improving our parks and trails.

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And then on the recreation side, you have the recreation programming and that includes the senior

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center, that includes administration and sports and then events is also in there related

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to events that happen in your parks, events that happen in across the city.

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So it's about two and a half people full time.

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Some of the things that we looked at is there is a pretty high level of standards, but we just

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to write down on these standard operating procedures and continue to mark and continue to document

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what needs to replace and how to do that life cycle replacement because so we need to

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consider that as well.

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One of the things that's not included is any sort of ranger or enforcement of parks and trails,

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And so a lot of that is done through partnerships with the staff of the sheriff's department.

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We're jumping into funding.

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So we know that the department, the Parks Recreation Open Space and Terales is funded through,

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and this is probably not news to you, the general fund, revenues from events, programs,

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And then other sources like grants, sponsorships,

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and agreements across the city.

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So 12% of anyone who lives in Eagle, 12% of their property tax goes to the city.

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The rest is going to other taxing districts, you know.

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ACHD, cemetery, transport tax, those types of groups as well.

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And so of that, so then a portion of that goes to the parks and maintenance of parks, trails,

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and so we need to consider that as part of the revenue.

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But it's hard to break down exactly what amount of that because it felt because of the filter sounds.

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I didn't calculate what exactly percent of that told percent.

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Of course, it varies by year.

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So, and then 15% of the operations comes from those user fees, so when people

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someone size up for a program, or from events, or sponsorships, or rental, for example,

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as well. And then the other source of fees, which is kind of in a different bucket because

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It relates only to capital is that park impact fee and so it's about $2,080 and then there's

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a separate trail's impact fee as well.

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So those are the park impact fee?

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Yeah, so when new development comes into the city, they pay an impact fee for parks and so

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you're paying for your impact to the city to then provide you with additional amenities

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is this could also relate to other...

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Your services at the city provides you. So there's impact fees for other things as well. And so when a development comes in and says, we're going to be building a new house.

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We say, hey, you are contributing and we need to, we're going to need to build a new park because you moved here. And then, so this is the equivalent of how much you are going to provide and that's based on the detailed calculation of how much parks costs, how much land costs,

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And then break down of the population numbers, and then they come up with a figure too.

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It all goes to capital improvements.

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So the Park Impact fee pays for future capital improvements.

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It cannot be used for ongoing maintenance or operations,

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so that's supposed to be used for that new that new park that is going to be developed

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because of the new development.

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Yes, there are impacts.

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And so this one is specific.

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This is the parks impact.

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So this amount is the park impact.

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Christine, I think you have a slide coming up regarding the percentage of what we charge

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in a park impact fear, the amount of me charge compared to other cities in the valley here.

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And I was at the advisory meeting earlier today and ours was so much lower.

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I was kind of shocked by it and everybody else, I mean, substantially lower.

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I thought maybe perhaps this would be a good time to, I mean, after you're doing the presentation,

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one of the discussions we could have here is what is the feasibility of raising that

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It seems like, you know, you think about it politically, you're thinking, well, our people

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are going to get upset about it.

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Well, developer pays it up and then the thought is, well, the developer is going to pass

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it on to the homeowner, but the amount per house is not very much, really.

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So I don't think there's anyone that's going to be getting crazy about it.

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But the fact that we are so undercharging developers is really crushing our opportunities

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to build the various facilities that we're missing.

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So, I think what's that people are?

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Yeah, and if they want.

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So, I just think that's to be a real priority for the council to be considering.

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You know, what it would take?

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Because I hear there's some percentage you can do without having public hearings.

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But even doing that percentage seems so small compared to what we really need to do.

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And I don't see that there's going to be much opposition.

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The public with really uses, we have Victor here today, and he can give us the lead.

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So Mr. Mayor and Chairman Huffaker and members, great questions.

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But one of the things that should be part of this analysis is, the Idaho Impact

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Fiac does a state statute, which actually sets forth how a municipality goes about

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collecting impact fees.

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I've always analogized it to, like, a recipe.

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The impact fee act requires the certain studies be done

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that get vetted through an impact fee advisory committee.

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There's public hearings.

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It's actually a proportionate share.

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So when we talk about growth paying for growth,

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it's not 100% of new people coming in paying for this.

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One of the things that's required to identify

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have to identify water deficiencies and what exactly is the impact that new development or new

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people come into the city, what impact. So they're only being it's a one time fee by the way.

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And so that's actually how we do it. So the analysis of this is what other cities are doing.

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That's actually, if we got challenged, we absolutely lose. You actually have to actually do a study.

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You have to determine what your level of services and I think for the city council members,

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we always talk about level of service, right?

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When we talk about the police and pack fees, for example.

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So it's really determined by what the city

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determines how many, like, for example,

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how many acres of parks per whatever number of people.

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I'm not saying that's metric,

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but I know that's been at least one of the formulas

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that cities have used.

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And so I mean, certainly, you know,

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offer discussion.

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I do know that certainly what PT Pro's is doing,

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may actually lend to maybe an additional analysis that will go in front of the city's impact

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the advisory committee because every five years by law we are required to look at all of those

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impact fees in reassess if we had.

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You know, Victor, we were looking at the acres per thousand people in the city of Edel with the other

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cities that are going to be compared here, we were also low in that as well, so that's something

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we have to raise in order to be able to say we have a deficiency, right?

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Correct.

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and that's one thing you could do, right?

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And again.

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It can where we'll be if there's a deficiency. That's not something that wrote this pain for. That's something the city is going to have to reach and know it's coffers to figure out how to address the deficiency in that too.

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So ours is basically 3.3 acres per thousand citizens, you know.

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So that I think it needs to be adjusted, but it has to go through that format to be adjusted.

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How long is that process now? I think it's probably some guidance from our city leaders.

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And then again, if there's public hearings involved as well as, again, just input from different

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industry stakeholders, I'll give you the attorney answer, right?

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It depends.

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Well, hopefully this gives us the idea of where we're deficient in what we need to go moving forward

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and they will have better.

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I'm just thinking that this discussion almost always boils down, too.

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We don't have the money to do all this stuff we need to do.

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Well, here's some crude that can be picked.

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You know we have control of to do something about we should do it, so

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yeah so like yeah

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like Victor mentioned the impact fee is a one-time thing grants are also one-time

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thing those are typically only for capital improvements and then we need grant

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writers to write grants and the other thing is we looked at is the cost recovery

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policy and so we charge folks for going to go into our recreation programs, renting our

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facilities, but there's no formal policy on how much the city would like to consider that

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cost recovery as well so considering that we'll talk more about revenue in a moment and

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then available moves as well okay so here's those pair comparisons I hope that's big enough

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So, we look at, we looked at peer comparisons as well as the National Benchmark, so the first couple of cities.

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We looked at, because they're similar in similar geographic areas, similar size, similar demographic, as far as population, median income, housing, and their local.

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We did also look at a few communities, or one community outside of Idaho, but Draper is kind of similar and it's a similar demographics next to a very populated Salt Lake area, so that's kind of one reason we looked at that one.

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So yeah, they can see they're the Parks level of service.

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You can see the current based on those acres.

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The acres develop to the 123 acres.

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Based on your residence, you have about 3.2.

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Your adopted, like the mayor said, adopted level of service

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from previous planning efforts is 3.3.

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And you can see there how that compares to other communities.

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It is pretty similar to, to codwell, a little bit lower than, then, popatella in Cuna.

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And then, they, they do actually have higher-level adopters of services as well.

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And I do want to point out that this only includes the city-owned property, and it's been

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important to consider that there are a number of HOA managed parks within this city, and

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those provide additional level of service.

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And so when we look at comparing ourselves,

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especially to those national averages,

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it's probably because they're considering

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other park acres that aren't just city acres.

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And so that is one thing that we can continue to work on

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is map and document all the HOA parks

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so that we have access.

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A number that says, this is how many parks

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are available to all of our residents,

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It's not just the ones that are city owned, so that is one caveat that they do want to

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point out that's really important and maybe consideration for why it's a little bit

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lower.

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Yes, but the H always do not have a park impact fee, so you're wondering they can not look

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in an apples to apples, they're not included in that.

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Well, they paid it at one point, they paid it at one point, one collected, they go into

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capital improvement plan for the city but the individual homeowners are the developers build

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those H.O.A. parks and those those are taking care of through the H.O.A. fees. And then

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because they provided those parks they probably didn't pay.

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Each house paid the impact fee,

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but not for the H but not the H.O.A. because we owe part 20% open space type deal it gets all

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alluded into what's get built in each neighborhood and it's supposed to be a pocket part for each

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neighborhood to utilize for their own...

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cyber hoods, but then they don't entcharge the impact fee on that. They've got charged for the broader impact fees. Then the arrangements have to pay for maintaining the little park inside their community.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.gano.

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It's

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Oyiansotini. So we're

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just thankful we move this number in a while. Yeah. That

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is one

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thing to consider, is... And we talk

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about this in the development code is making sure that the park classifications that you're getting that

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neighborhood is building that part to a similar classification so that you are serving your

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residence whether it was HAA bill or not. I mean at the end of the day we still want to make

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sure our residents have parts whether that's through development process or whether we're building

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that part.

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Another benchmark we wanted to look at so I mentioned the 21.5 staffing and so we benchmarked

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this across other communities. We were able to collect information for Codwell and Popatello

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for this one.

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How? Yeah. Why do you pick Codwell?

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Similar to your geographic area, kind of their expanding, they're growing as well,

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kind of development. But there's still, maybe historically,

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rural, community, agriculture, they have a lot of areas of that.

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What's hard for you, though, is because we're already, those divers are skewed.

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I mean, yeah, within a year, we've already exceeded those divers, so it's hard to keep up.

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We're trying to, so that five-year analysis might be interesting.

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Compass head debt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we're over 40,000.

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That makes it, and that are what Caldwell is, but yeah, the same question is,

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Because we look at Napa and called well in Radiant and Boise,

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kind of, in Guard C such a small pocket of, you know,

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they have less than five miles square for there,

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but it's hard to analyze.

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So those questions are valid, do I think, to see why?

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Yeah, because they're further away and we have Meridian and Star is growing.

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Yeah, yeah, and this is important when we talk about staffing

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as well is, yeah, no city's going to be apples, apples, your eagle, your unique, you provide

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certain types of amenities, cod-well, already, and they provide certain types of amenities.

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And so we, we tried to take a look at a number of different analysis and we'll look at

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staffing per acre and breaking that down by certain types of service. And one thing I will point

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Now, the FTE, you know, again, you don't have like a recreation center, so that's maybe

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why it's a little bit different, for example.

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So, I would say that's definitely why it's different than the national population, it's just

455
00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:05,460
right, and we'll actually let me flip to this.

456
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,340
So, this is another way to look at comparing to those national acres, is breaking it down

457
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:13,960
by the different type of staff.

458
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,940
And so, you know, parks, operations, and maintenance based

459
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:25,600
on those national averages, you would have about 46%

460
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,140
of your staff related to operations.

461
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,260
And so, you're actually, you know, as far as that,

462
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,920
you're actually hired, so that's good.

463
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,780
Recreation is lower, but that's because you don't have

464
00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:38,580
a recreation center where you don't have as much

465
00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:42,340
regression programming, and so that's just another way to consider it.

466
00:38:42,580 --> 00:38:48,280
So when we say we need to maybe increase staff or increase funding, we need to look at where,

467
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,880
you know, because it is a pretty eatable, we talk about a lot of different services, parks,

468
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,240
recreation, events, open space trails.

469
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,840
We are looking a lot of different things.

470
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,620
And then another way to analyze this is based on how many acres you're managing, and how

471
00:39:03,620 --> 00:39:10,280
much, it's cost to manage a more developed park versus a, you know, more passive open space

472
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:19,020
where you might just be maintaining weeds or trail, but you're not mowing, you're not picking

473
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:27,460
up trash, you're not making sure that the facility is, you know, that it's maintained well,

474
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,120
and you have restrooms and additional facilities to maintain.

475
00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:37,870
And then I think this is, yeah,

476
00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:45,430
the impact fee question and so we did look at the percentage of the property tax for those

477
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:50,130
communities as well as the impact fee and like Victor pointed out there are different reasons

478
00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:59,990
for that. I will say like Boise does something interesting where they look at where those

479
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:11,920
And so that's a more complicated way to look at it, but it does look at saying, okay, this neighborhood is more deficient, and so it's going to actually charge a more amount instead of having like an even keel.

480
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,480
So that there is different methodologies, like Boise's doing that for all these years.

481
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:32,970
But those very, they also vary by home size, so that's another way that other cities do that as well as if you're putting in a single family home versus like a multi-game.

482
00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:36,830
What's the parks revenue per capita? What goes into that?

483
00:40:37,630 --> 00:40:39,090
Because we're way lower.

484
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:49,930
Yeah, I would, that's kind of why I zoomed over it because it's, um, it's, the way that the, the, the, the, the, the, the budget was broken down.

485
00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:54,010
I think this only is looking at like the recreation program.

486
00:40:54,010 --> 00:41:00,390
It's only looking at the recreation program and not the overall, like city revenue through like other sources.

487
00:41:00,970 --> 00:41:02,190
I think that's why it's so different.

488
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:05,330
because it's only looking at like recreation programming fees.

489
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,890
So it's only looking at like one bucket.

490
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:12,310
So let me just call out from the bottom that we're a fifth.

491
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:15,390
So we interesting to find out what metric

492
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:17,330
that is because obviously whoever put this together

493
00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:18,370
found it to be important.

494
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:23,490
Is this like rental fees for parks, recreation programming,

495
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:25,590
these for youth leads?

496
00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:27,990
Yeah, for recreation programming.

497
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:28,530
Just the recreation programming.

498
00:41:28,690 --> 00:41:30,690
Are the other ones just recreation programming

499
00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:33,350
or does that include park rent tools, facility rent tools?

500
00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:37,470
I would have to dive into like what like Codwell and Pope Patel is actually,

501
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,160
and then-

502
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Yeah, but I could ask you all that.

503
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:41,660
Yeah, but I could ask you all that.

504
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:45,220
28, 63, which is-

505
00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:50,020
Yeah, let me, let me look more into that I apologize, and I should-

506
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:52,640
I need to just get one clarification here.

507
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,100
I keep talking about this before.

508
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,780
So if I'm a property owner and I pay property tax.

509
00:42:00,860 --> 00:42:13,080
12% of my dollars go to the city, but 51% of the same person and called well, 51% goes to the city.

510
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:15,880
Our levy rate is so low.

511
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:16,460
But here.

512
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,220
I guess I'm trying to understand the difference.

513
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,160
You know, levy rate.

514
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:22,820
Well, every tax is a levy.

515
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:23,280
Okay.

516
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:33,140
But the property tax that we receive only 12% goes to us, the city, everything else goes somewhere else, right?

517
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Is that because they have first bite at the apple or how does that?

518
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:44,540
I mean, that's why I'm trying to understand why would 51% of Caldwell go to them?

519
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,900
They might have a bigger levy, but it's all about, I'm just not about percentages.

520
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,200
Yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're fundamental way they've broken that up.

521
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,780
Um, is, is from their budget not, I mean, I wish Lori would.

522
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,640
They sent their budget.

523
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Yeah, it's how they sent their budget, but I don't know if there's any.

524
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,860
They may not have as many taxing districts.

525
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,620
Yeah.

526
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:04,740
Well, that's, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

527
00:43:04,740 --> 00:43:11,220
We have 11, if you have, we have a flood zone, but basically we have 10 taxing districts that we put our money towards.

528
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:11,660
Yes.

529
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:18,880
And that, that's an anomaly from some of that you go to,

530
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,360
but they're all districts in there.

531
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,800
They're within a fire district.

532
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:24,360
Now there's a lot of different

533
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,980
they have their own school.

534
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,240
It just gets broken up all over the place,

535
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,120
but we have more people

536
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,200
biting, taking bites out of that apple

537
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,740
than a cold well or something.

538
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:34,800
That's what I'm trying to understand.

539
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,760
Is that what you're looking at?

540
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Yeah, that could be a very

541
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,280
hard enough for us to keep ours, right?

542
00:43:40,580 --> 00:43:43,100
With it, it's a good question to ask.

543
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,240
So we get that information for us as well

544
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,680
for surrounding treasure valley and what is it?

545
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:52,560
I mean, the bottom line is that there's a dollar figure,

546
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,480
that's why I'm getting that, there's a dollar figure,

547
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,020
we get 12%, somebody else has a different dollar figure,

548
00:43:58,220 --> 00:43:59,560
but they get 51%.

549
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,880
Although, I'll give Meridian for their property tax

550
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,620
levier rate is three times as ours.

551
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:06,740
Three times.

552
00:44:06,820 --> 00:44:08,240
Well, what is their percent of that?

553
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:10,020
Yeah, and then it's percentage

554
00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:11,660
out to where they allocated.

555
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,620
Because they have city police, city fire that kind of stuff that they have to analyze their cost.

556
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,900
Some of the summaries are moving along.

557
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:38,020
So the questionnaires, the needs assessment did have, you know, made some more information on statewide trends from like the statewide outdoor recreation plan.

558
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600
It has a lot more data broken down, but I wanted to hit those highlights.

559
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,580
Now we'll move on to the questionnaires.

560
00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:52,480
So, this first questionnaire was our first of three outreach opportunities to get feedback

561
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,000
on this planning effort.

562
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,640
We got about 206 responses and

563
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,700
And...

564
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,280
We had this out in June and July. It went out in the news letter. It went out at all the facilities. For example, posters went out to the advisory work group, stakeholders as well.

565
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:33,660
So we asked, are your needs being met? Do you have what you need? And the first couple things that we saw is that maintenance of parks and open space and trails were very well rated, the overall quality, the maintenance, upkeep doing great.

566
00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:40,580
park features and amenities kind of fell behind there, and then overall the

567
00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:44,940
one, the areas that weren't being met or the indoor recreation,

568
00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:48,260
and people,

569
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,360
even though we're still building, we have lots of trails, people always want more

570
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,660
trails. Let's see that in a lot of other communities as well.

571
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,240
Okay, and then yeah

572
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:03,200
then we ask, where do wet residents want more? Again, the trails, we know that you

573
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:12,260
You know, doing great and we are wanting to see more of these types of amenities as well.

574
00:46:12,380 --> 00:46:16,120
I think one of these things is that if this validates what we're already hearing,

575
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,200
what we've been discussing, why we're kind of doing this plan already, is that we are seeing this being asked

576
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,620
and being needed from the community to make it from the community.

577
00:46:30,970 --> 00:46:35,410
One thing I would do want to point out, people said that they do use open space and

578
00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:40,010
naturally is outside of equal, but they still want to see equal provide open space and

579
00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:40,250
naturally.

580
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:43,010
Then

581
00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:54,420
we asked about recreation programming, and about 43% of people participated in one

582
00:46:54,420 --> 00:47:00,020
to three programs per year, but 35% of people said that they didn't.

583
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:08,080
Why people don't participate in the program but they don't know what's offered or they prefer that self-directed activity

584
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:16,840
and I think that goes along with people wanting and participating in outdoor recreation like trails and open space.

585
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:23,820
So they don't necessarily look to the city for recreation programming and this would change my demographics.

586
00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:27,880
people that have maybe used or are looking for more of this

587
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,760
regression programming, but maybe people that are like adults

588
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,300
are looking just to do trails type activities as well.

589
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:46,440
So then community values, like we asked this in a slightly different way,

590
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:50,580
like okay above all these things we asked you what you need, what needs are met,

591
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:55,060
what are the key values, and again we're still hearing that

592
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:59,600
the pathways, trails for both of exercise and transportation and

593
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,760
the importance. The river and water access was the second one and

594
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,600
then protecting the water and the wildlife and the natural resources as well.

595
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:11,960
So this does line up with some of those

596
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,440
other analysis that we're doing in another way to kind of like

597
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,560
just gut check and just to determine where we where we should be focusing

598
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,040
as we move into these opportunities as well.

599
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,000
Ms. Mayor, I just have a quick question.

600
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,080
You had mentioned that this is the first of three surveys that you're going to do.

601
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:37,440
So this open house that's coming up, the purpose of that is to just have more of an expanded

602
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,140
conversation about what people are looking for.

603
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:47,920
My question is based on with 206 respondents to this, with our population a little bit more

604
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,280
and 40,000, that's like half a percent.

605
00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:55,940
So I'm Larry of getting to aggressive on new policy

606
00:48:55,940 --> 00:48:59,360
and new direction with such a limited amount of feedback.

607
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,800
So my question is, these next subsequent surveys,

608
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:05,640
what's the plan there and the structure

609
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,200
as we go out and get more information?

610
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:09,300
Yeah, that's a great question about it.

611
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,740
I'm very valued for question.

612
00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:14,100
And so we set up the public process

613
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,960
to continually gather feedback

614
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:23,380
can have that continuing feedback loop as we go along and then we added to the question

615
00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:27,140
there with that needs assessment so we're taking the needs assessment we're hearing

616
00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:31,340
we're took what you guys heard instead of the first meeting and we're adding to that and

617
00:49:31,340 --> 00:49:35,660
we're continually going back to the community to get more feedback and so they'll have another

618
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:40,660
opportunity to weigh in and provide feedback on the second opportunity.

619
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:45,780
So we'll have to be more of a randomized sampling then rather that this one is more kind

620
00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:50,760
convenient sampling with our going out on our website and, you know, our user groups, et cetera.

621
00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:59,980
So more, more of a touch out into the broader community so we can really ascertain what the interest and the needs are.

622
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,940
We

623
00:50:03,050 --> 00:50:14,140
are recommending that, okay, yeah, I know, if you want to pop them up all the time.

624
00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:19,460
now, but I, I, I, I, I have to take the same thing to do.

625
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:19,880
It's the same thing to do.

626
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,580
It's like a massive alien to take every household to either.

627
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,760
And everyone will have a chance to test for all that.

628
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Even if you get five.

629
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,580
That's a winner.

630
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:28,460
That's a big difference.

631
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,020
Sure.

632
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,360
Right.

633
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:36,800
And if it's, if it's more of a random, you know, then, then you really get some real valuable feedback.

634
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:38,700
Yeah.

635
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:41,560
Thanks.

636
00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:41,980
Thank you.

637
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,860
Yeah, we find that those randomized samples are really important when we have a specific

638
00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:58,700
question that we are trying to get more of a direction on.

639
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:04,160
So for example, we are recommending that if we do any property decks, the first of all

640
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,020
that's going to go to like a holding, and that will be more of that randomized sample.

641
00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:10,340
So like before you do anything with that,

642
00:51:10,460 --> 00:51:13,320
you would do more specific questionnaires specifically

643
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,340
to that question.

644
00:51:14,740 --> 00:51:16,100
But you could do a broader, you know,

645
00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:19,060
you could incorporate this into a randomized sample.

646
00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:22,060
And then you can get the tab books that you get,

647
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,240
and then you can break down each specific question.

648
00:51:25,420 --> 00:51:26,700
And if you could just go on

649
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:28,860
or a lot more information to kind of.

650
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:31,580
It's a proper great idea, because she has,

651
00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:33,660
she hosts those, or Rob, whoever.

652
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:36,500
Whoever gets credit for it on this side of me.

653
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:42,500
Thanks Rob, I'll get Rob because the meetings at H.O.A.s.

654
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,240
He has an H.O.A meeting that she holds quarterly now.

655
00:51:47,420 --> 00:51:52,400
And maybe there's a startoff point for that meeting to give those out,

656
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,680
and then they could take it to their H.O.A.s.

657
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,040
and then they could take it to their H.O.A.'s.

658
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,080
I think this point, I think I did have a contact list for all of the H.O.A.s.

659
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:03,320
We're working on it.

660
00:52:03,340 --> 00:52:04,040
We're working on it.

661
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:05,940
We're working on it.

662
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,940
Yeah, more than probably what our 2% is up here.

663
00:52:12,220 --> 00:52:12,240
Yeah.

664
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:13,440
Thank you.

665
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,240
Thank you.

666
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:15,420
Thank you for that.

667
00:52:20,980 --> 00:52:22,320
Thank you.

668
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:23,980
Sort of to follow up.

669
00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:25,800
What Councilwoman may said.

670
00:52:26,420 --> 00:52:27,340
I think it's.

671
00:52:27,460 --> 00:52:30,960
I honestly thought that we'd have a lot more buy-in to the survey.

672
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,180
I thought it would be easy to get 1,000 people.

673
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:44,280
It's a little disheartening to see half of 1% have replied to something so easy like there's nothing easier than sitting on your phone or at your computer clicking and I am worried that

674
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:51,400
So few people responded and I do think that outreach is certainly needed, but I don't know how you get people to buy in

675
00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:59,500
When it's already something that has been presented to them is was so easy to do so maybe the OHHA is a good idea

676
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:07,040
I think this is something like I know personally I reached out to many many groups and said, hey, just make sure people an eagle are getting this

677
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,620
Which brings me to my second point and that is the 200 and

678
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:13,440
Six people that responded

679
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:23,000
We're probably highly motivated to respond so my background is in teaching and we have to do all these criticisms at the end of every semester and the university and the

680
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:29,040
The philosophy is that there are two people two boats of people that respond either people that hate you or the people that love you

681
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:37,140
So, that being said, I think that we should take a pause for a second and realize how absolutely grateful

682
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:42,560
the people, the 266 people are that did respond, really love the way that the parks are being maintained.

683
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,040
I think that's a really, really excellent metric.

684
00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:51,300
And I think that that need, we need to stop and say, whoa, good job, Eric and company, you guys have done an excellent job with that.

685
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:51,760
They're sure.

686
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:53,060
Yeah.

687
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,200
Yeah.

688
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,320
That's a good point to make as well.

689
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:04,100
And we see this in a number of communities where sometimes the people are happy, they

690
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:07,280
don't feel like they want to say anything as well.

691
00:54:07,660 --> 00:54:12,300
I would also say that it's easier to react to something, so I'm really excited once we get

692
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:18,980
to these opportunities to say, hey, we're going to put new crossings, a new pathway here,

693
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:21,120
and maybe that will get more people excited.

694
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,580
to come out too, as well, instead of just asking like,

695
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,500
well, generally, what do you want to see?

696
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,820
And sometimes it is easier to react to signing.

697
00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:28,820
So yeah.

698
00:54:31,810 --> 00:54:35,810
So we'll continue to work with staff to get out those notifications.

699
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:40,810
And the comment period will be open for a number of weeks.

700
00:54:42,830 --> 00:54:43,050
Oh, yeah.

701
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:44,710
Did I say that a lot?

702
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:47,390
So there's the question that that's.

703
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:50,830
The open house, but then there will be the second questionnaire

704
00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:53,810
that will be launching on the day of the open house.

705
00:54:53,810 --> 00:54:55,810
and then it will be open through October 4th.

706
00:54:56,530 --> 00:54:57,550
When is the open house?

707
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:58,950
September 14th.

708
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,180
How are we publicizing the questioner?

709
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:12,180
Yeah, so if we're not in the newsletter today, and then the mayor and I recorded.

710
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,800
Laura, can you give it up to you on that?

711
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:24,120
Sure, so generally speaking, this is published in both the monthly e-news letter that goes out,

712
00:55:24,740 --> 00:55:30,660
also several times on social media or primary accounts are Facebook, Instagram, ex and next

713
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:34,240
and then Christina was on the mayor minute,

714
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,960
which will be published on Friday.

715
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,140
And do we know what the engagement rate

716
00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:42,040
on those email news letters are from your residents?

717
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,160
The email newsletter subscription is somewhere around 4,000.

718
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,780
The heaviest hitter is actually the mayor minute,

719
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:53,880
which gets an average of 5,000 views per week.

720
00:55:54,820 --> 00:55:57,500
So it's sort of just depends.

721
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:01,520
And we'll see how well the social media posts go.

722
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:06,160
But something we might want to think about broadening.

723
00:56:06,940 --> 00:56:10,020
I can tell you, I mean, I'm involved in trying to read,

724
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,720
when we get the news letters emailed, but people are busy.

725
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,740
They don't read at all.

726
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,240
They just browse headlines.

727
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:16,540
I hope that interests me.

728
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,900
I'm going to love to see if we can get out to the farmers market.

729
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,020
We can get out to events.

730
00:56:21,220 --> 00:56:22,500
We can have a booth set up.

731
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:24,760
We can have staff talking about here.

732
00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:25,600
We're going through this process.

733
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,340
says reach out to the youth leagues.

734
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,180
We sent it, have the eagle youth soccer and youth basketball

735
00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:35,040
sent out of blast to all the parents.

736
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,700
They will read that guarantee they're going to read that

737
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:39,840
much more than anything else.

738
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,580
Yep.

739
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,700
So we've identified a bunch of stakeholders earlier in the process.

740
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,640
And we're not using it.

741
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,000
So I think if we need better engagement.

742
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,060
And I think this isn't important information now.

743
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,620
Not waiting until we say, hey, we have this crosswalk we want to put in.

744
00:56:53,620 --> 00:56:57,900
Because they're going to feel what, well, when was this, when did we even have a say in this?

745
00:56:58,460 --> 00:57:05,900
So, 200 people without reach of maybe 5000, that looks a lot better than 200 people of 40,000.

746
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:17,620
So, if we can increase, we could get that 1000, 2000 by just reaching out to almost every resident here instead of just a small section of them.

747
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,440
So, I'd like to see, and if we're going to have a second questionnaire, let's try to get the data.

748
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:27,880
because without the data, we're all going to sit here and we're going to make guesses as a

749
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,680
parks commission and then is the council on what people want. Right now, we're showing water

750
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,820
access, there's a whole contingency out there that I can guarantee you go to talk to any

751
00:57:37,820 --> 00:57:43,400
youth labor, youth soccer, basketball, baseball. It's going to be a whole lot more than 200 people

752
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,880
say we need more parks for that. But they're not given, we're not given in the opportunity to

753
00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:53,540
So. And when you get those tap books, it breaks it down. It drills down.

754
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,440
So these numbers come back and they interpret them for us with the tap books.

755
00:57:59,740 --> 00:58:01,580
You can go in there and do a deep dive.

756
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,020
Yeah. I think the H.O.A. is a great idea.

757
00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:06,020
Because everyone reads that newsletter.

758
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,580
Right? Because it impacts their local, and I think you put a link.

759
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,440
And this is really important for the future.

760
00:58:12,860 --> 00:58:16,000
So please click this link and take the ten minutes to fill this out.

761
00:58:17,570 --> 00:58:26,690
I think that helps to, like hearing from somebody that you know, as well, yeah, and they have a Facebook page too, the H.O.A. has their own separate page.

762
00:58:28,610 --> 00:58:33,070
And there's so many are digital too, you know, but it's all digital, yeah.

763
00:58:33,070 --> 00:58:34,670
So it's easier.

764
00:58:36,570 --> 00:58:38,090
Well, yeah, we'll get those implemented.

765
00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:52,060
In the first one, you know, again, based on the samples I think this is the greatest all I would not move forward with any of this without official polling.

766
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:56,780
anything like that, but we did talk, you know, looking at different funding mechanisms and what

767
00:58:56,780 --> 00:59:01,880
people would support in there, definitely. More supportive of those impact fees and grants,

768
00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:10,160
and then pretty mixed on the, the like the. A lot of those things when we do this is it's easier

769
00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:19,260
to get answers when there's a specific recommendation, like we're a property tax for like a specific

770
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:24,360
facility or something and so we would want to do that moving forward if something like

771
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,960
this would be moving forward as part of implementation.

772
00:59:29,150 --> 00:59:34,430
Okay so yeah summary of what we heard is we did hear you know the need for some more sports

773
00:59:34,430 --> 00:59:40,170
field that we did hear that but we want and a lot of the I think a lot of the open-ended responses

774
00:59:40,170 --> 00:59:45,830
but the need for more parks to to have those sports field and one of the things that you know

775
00:59:45,830 --> 00:59:50,650
who are working on that already the regional athletic park and so that we'll be one of those

776
00:59:50,650 --> 00:59:57,330
basis as well and then the connectivity points and maintain it, maintain it, maintain what we have.

777
01:00:02,770 --> 01:00:26,670
So, we got an hour. So, for the work session discussion, and I printed out a couple copies, but it was in the packet as well. The preliminary opportunities. And again, these are, you know, we took the site visit staff interviews. The first couple meetings that we heard we had with you guys, the needs assessment.

778
01:00:26,670 --> 01:00:30,890
and then the questionnaire and kind of

779
01:00:30,890 --> 01:00:36,750
combined a bunch of opportunities into this document

780
01:00:36,750 --> 01:00:40,630
and these are the preliminary recommendations

781
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:42,630
or preliminary opportunities and then

782
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:46,270
but they will eventually to think about them as early

783
01:00:46,270 --> 01:00:50,610
recommendations. But again, we need your input and guidance

784
01:00:50,610 --> 01:00:53,550
on what we need to carry forward or something we need to refine.

785
01:00:53,550 --> 01:01:00,030
do we need to add before this goes out to, you know, the broader public?

786
01:01:03,070 --> 01:01:08,370
I have an after meeting discussion with the A to county.

787
01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:11,610
What is your director, Park Strecke?

788
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:12,990
Park Strecke.

789
01:01:13,790 --> 01:01:13,830
Yep.

790
01:01:14,370 --> 01:01:21,310
And we talked about the bike park in the A to county field up there.

791
01:01:21,310 --> 01:01:26,860
the sports park and all of that stuff there.

792
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:32,620
One of the things that we have here on page two is that we're funding partners in

793
01:01:32,620 --> 01:01:37,720
eight county to transfer management of the entire e-resports complex by part of the city

794
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,200
of E-O.

795
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,000
That was, and it's on the maps also to do that in his discussion.

796
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,880
They're pretty adamant that they're doing a good job with the property that they own

797
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:57,320
and they don't have a desire to transfer it to the city of Eagle, so the question would be

798
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,780
just coming on the backside of this, not being in the front part of any of these discussions

799
01:02:01,780 --> 01:02:12,320
up to this point, is that if we are working with a partner, whether it's another public partner of private partner,

800
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:20,060
and they are doing something for us in the way of parks or trails or whatever it is that if they're doing it,

801
01:02:20,060 --> 01:02:28,760
I don't think that it's wise for the city vehicle to transfer that ownership, just have the ownership over to it.

802
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:49,020
If there's somebody else's taking care of it and doing a really good job, so, you know, I think that that would be a discussion that maybe the council needs to have or then a park skies on this as, you know, is that, is that really something that we want to do is to transfer that management when we are short staff and we don't have the funding or the funding for it.

803
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:53,740
And maybe that needs to be eliminated out of our discussion on that.

804
01:02:53,980 --> 01:02:59,660
So I mean, I just wanted to throw that out there because he was pretty good history less

805
01:03:00,140 --> 01:03:06,140
than what they'd done up there since 2013-14, and that he called it a confrontal, a little

806
01:03:06,140 --> 01:03:09,800
dust-up, a ownership of that property up there.

807
01:03:10,060 --> 01:03:12,300
And what they've done up to date on it.

808
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:15,380
So I just, you know, what are your thoughts?

809
01:03:15,380 --> 01:03:18,220
Well, we were even wondering, you know, how did that idea get

810
01:03:18,220 --> 01:03:20,380
make it clear here in the first place?

811
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,340
Because I asked him, there was any ongoing conversation

812
01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:26,460
between the city and then, as far as doing that,

813
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,200
he said, there's none.

814
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,100
We have no reason to want to do that.

815
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,180
We don't have any idea why this is being proposed in here.

816
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,260
So I didn't have any, I don't know.

817
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:36,520
Maybe Bill, just a discussion on that.

818
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,000
Or do you understand it on it?

819
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,000
Mayor of Councilman and Group, yes, I do.

820
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:48,800
and I don't think that that was a global conversation that was intended to result in something

821
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,040
coming up in a public front where it suggested that the city thought that it should

822
01:03:53,040 --> 01:04:00,260
do that I think there was a discussion during the tour where staff was talking about the

823
01:04:00,260 --> 01:04:06,100
efficiencies of singular ownership over a big facility but that wasn't necessarily meant

824
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,480
to parlay into it already to take over the park.

825
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,400
So I think hopefully that the finish of this conversation

826
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,260
that just can be removed from a talking point

827
01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:15,840
and we can move on.

828
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:20,000
Just so I understand the new proposed Eagle Park

829
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,880
sports complex is not then managed by Eagle.

830
01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:25,480
That way we're saying this is a week.

831
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,880
So we just applied for it.

832
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,380
I applied for it.

833
01:04:27,980 --> 01:04:28,420
I applied for it.

834
01:04:28,420 --> 01:04:28,600
I applied for it.

835
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,100
I applied for it.

836
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:30,240
I applied for it.

837
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,040
I applied for it.

838
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,400
You're building out the regional athletic park

839
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,960
is definitely one of the high priorities.

840
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:38,660
And so it's going to be in the plan.

841
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:43,920
Once we can check that one, hopefully that's an early implementation plan, but we can check that one off.

842
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:51,920
So building that out with additional sports fields, fields, pickable courts, other amenities and features that connect to trails.

843
01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:59,840
But at the end of the day, the point with Doug brought up was the fact that there was confusion sometimes as to what we're referring to in what part.

844
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:10,960
Yeah, because it gets convoluted sometimes when we have to specific the state location, maybe, to help out, too, you know, so.

845
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,340
Yeah, regional impact.

846
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:13,920
No, no, no, thank you.

847
01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:14,840
Yep.

848
01:05:16,580 --> 01:05:24,680
On just a comment on the maps, you have the Highway 16 called that as an arterial, which, technically, you know, they are.

849
01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:29,440
But being a state highway would be helpful to have that called out in a different color.

850
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,880
because that's going to present a whole different set of conflicts and issues.

851
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,760
So I think if you can just look at that and be readily.

852
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,780
Do you want to do that with 44 as well?

853
01:05:38,780 --> 01:05:40,960
Oh, where I've all stayed high.

854
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,600
I'll stay high.

855
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:42,600
I'll stay high.

856
01:05:44,060 --> 01:05:49,200
And with the user groups, with the equestrian, the pedestrians, the bikes, et cetera,

857
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,700
we, you know, even though we're thinking kind of in a different direction, we've got to take in motorized vehicles.

858
01:05:54,700 --> 01:06:01,100
that group when we're planning access there to someone to put that out there and then the other

859
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:07,580
point that caught my eye was the access and the pathways along the canals. This came up when I was

860
01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:14,780
with 80 county highway district and eagles specifically a lot of the land by the canals are

861
01:06:14,780 --> 01:06:22,040
private belongs to private ownership so there are a lot of easements in place so it's not just a

862
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,020
and then done you go in and the city can declare we're going to have a pathway here.

863
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,820
You've got to work with that group too. So it's good to have that on the radar.

864
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,300
Seems like they've been really cooperative for the last few years.

865
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,080
They really have, it's kind of turned. Yeah, it's kind of working with them. Yeah.

866
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,740
But I know I think Steve Noyes is really the one who started really pushing that forward

867
01:06:41,740 --> 01:06:44,980
and making that happen. Yeah. We've just carried it forward. Yeah.

868
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:50,660
They've been doing a lot on the Boise side right. So I think the, yeah, the sentiment has changed.

869
01:06:50,660 --> 01:06:54,560
But be aware that you're going to have to go through that hurdle as well.

870
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,460
There's a multiple bullets about working with the water districts and indigenous companies.

871
01:07:01,820 --> 01:07:02,300
Yeah.

872
01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:03,660
We shouldn't.

873
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:09,980
We also make we make that note on the map to that even though we're showing these future pathways and trails that they were all.

874
01:07:09,980 --> 01:07:13,580
They're all subject to, you know, laying down her agreements.

875
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:17,260
Thank you.

876
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,780
I appreciate all the work you're doing.

877
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:25,840
I noticed students of public or a partnership with someone else with a bike park.

878
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,440
We've talked about, and I noticed in the recreation that we talk about the school district,

879
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:33,180
but only for a pool facility.

880
01:07:34,860 --> 01:07:39,420
I didn't see anywhere in our inventory that we're taking into account any field space at

881
01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:44,040
all the schools within the city, and I think we need to engage with the school district

882
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:50,380
to inventory that because that's viable recreation space,

883
01:07:50,380 --> 01:07:52,200
but I think after school space.

884
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,840
So we use the gyms with basketball,

885
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,900
and I know that's a challenge for our recreation department,

886
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,120
at least when my kids were playing in the city,

887
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,460
is you almost have to get to them first

888
01:08:06,460 --> 01:08:09,300
because other organizations are all fighting

889
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:10,660
for the same gym space.

890
01:08:11,780 --> 01:08:13,760
But the fields in the backs of the schools.

891
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,880
So we have the eagle, middle schools, the high schools, whatever it is, there's a lot,

892
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:25,380
great, all the great schools, charter schools that they have open grass space that we

893
01:08:25,380 --> 01:08:29,260
could be utilizing for soccer, baseball, whatever it is.

894
01:08:30,020 --> 01:08:34,000
But we didn't, I don't think that was part of any of the inventory that we showed.

895
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:40,640
It is not part of the inventory, and I think we've agreement with the field spaces and

896
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,660
access to that, maybe, I don't know, is Brian here, Brian?

897
01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:48,440
Oh, Brian is there,

898
01:08:51,890 --> 01:08:53,130
we have the

899
01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:59,350
agreement with the city for using the field space and sorry, not to say the school district.

900
01:09:00,530 --> 01:09:04,450
Do we, do we, we don't really use their field space right now and is that a possibility?

901
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:11,150
Um, field space, we don't use, we use the indoor space for summer camp and different things for the

902
01:09:12,430 --> 01:09:17,910
field space is another story because they have some of the schools don't rent it out

903
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:22,410
or it's kind of a first come first serve and they do have other agencies and organizations

904
01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:26,990
that use their field space so we've never been able to use it for things like our software

905
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:30,670
leagues or anything else. They're indoors space, yes, outdoors, though.

906
01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:39,680
Because the outdoor they don't want to let a music or last in mind or what's stopping us from

907
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,180
jumping in.

908
01:09:40,220 --> 01:09:43,120
Number one, we don't have an agreement with them and that don't know that they'll do an agreement

909
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,580
for their outdoor field space.

910
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,880
They do have other people that do use it,

911
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,400
but we have never been able to secure it to use it.

912
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:52,080
I don't think they'll schedule their fields,

913
01:09:52,380 --> 01:09:54,580
which is we would have to have actual schedule times,

914
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,660
and they don't schedule those.

915
01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:58,540
The only thing we have in the group of fours in North.

916
01:09:59,100 --> 01:09:59,960
Please, you have a...

917
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,880
And agreement with Eagle Hills for the little baseball teams that used to play up there in the summer time. And we had an agreement with them at that time.

918
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:20,860
That was a long time ago, so I know that the, I think you have to go to the top up to the British school district and see what we can do and something like that because I think they could.

919
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,200
Hi Charlie.

920
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:22,720
Hi guys.

921
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,160
Sorry to jump in here.

922
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:26,000
We've talked with the schools multiple times.

923
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,440
We brought this up.

924
01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:28,620
It's a liability issue.

925
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:31,080
The schools cannot give out space, outdoor space.

926
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:33,360
That's why it's first come for service, open field.

927
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,560
Anybody got there?

928
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,260
I think we're going to go into an agreement with the city.

929
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,340
It's a liability issue.

930
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,040
Anybody has heard?

931
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,180
It goes to the school district.

932
01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:41,180
If you're out there, if you're on the court, you're called.

933
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,920
So that's where we work with the west data for about 15, 20 years.

934
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:48,540
And that's what it's always been.

935
01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:49,620
So it's first come for service.

936
01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:54,540
So to put it on in the inventory map, other than just say there are fields out here, you can use

937
01:10:54,540 --> 01:10:57,660
we run into it as you have that, or at least out of it as far as you move.

938
01:10:58,260 --> 01:11:03,080
You probably could raise it, thank you so much for sending me back to you, that's your high code.

939
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,780
I mean, I still think it's worth some more.

940
01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:13,080
We have limited space, we don't have the money to go by land, to build more, we're going

941
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,120
to have a tough time even with our regional sparse part to build those fields.

942
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:18,380
We've got grass all over the place.

943
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:26,840
And because the school district doesn't want to get sued, and there are students who are paying taxes are living in the Eagle that would use those parks.

944
01:11:27,980 --> 01:11:38,380
This happens in every community around this country where school districts, and we have a former superintendent, I'm sure he will tell you that they probably had youth league's using their fields too.

945
01:11:38,380 --> 01:11:44,280
And they are. The youth leagues are using it. So Eagle middle school fields are being used by a private soccer club.

946
01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:48,920
So what's the difference from the city rent in that space out too?

947
01:11:49,980 --> 01:12:01,480
So I don't understand from the the legality of it, but other private organizations are taking advantage of our taxpayer funded parks schools.

948
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:06,840
And we, as a city camp, so I think that, I think it's an opportunity that we need to explore.

949
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,820
We need to have someone maybe have a deeper conversation, especially if we want to go into a public

950
01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:14,740
private partnerships on aquatic centers, gymnasium.

951
01:12:15,180 --> 01:12:18,720
If we're going to run in problems, we're going to help with something like that, is a future potential.

952
01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:21,900
But we can't use the grass field.

953
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:27,160
I think that we, I don't think we should take no further answer, I think we need to sit down

954
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,520
with the school district and pressure that.

955
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:36,420
I mean, we have a parks, we have needs, we're trying to put the plan together, that has to be part of the plan in my opinion.

956
01:12:37,060 --> 01:12:46,640
So, I mean, I know this about my pay grade here, but I think it's an asset in our community that we have that we're not utilizing.

957
01:12:47,620 --> 01:12:53,740
I think it's what example in the one that people were really confused on it was the fireworks at the high school.

958
01:12:53,740 --> 01:12:56,200
because our insurance and their insurance,

959
01:12:56,300 --> 01:13:00,320
they were requiring us basically to put a policy together

960
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,620
that would basically, if we had to cover the whole school

961
01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:05,620
if it burned down.

962
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,940
So I think there's something within the insurance policies

963
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:11,280
that we could at least investigate on that

964
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,920
and their policies, because they're not lying together.

965
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:18,100
But if you use that as a launching pad for

966
01:13:19,220 --> 01:13:21,940
can we use your facilities of why or why not,

967
01:13:21,940 --> 01:13:23,540
at least would get their answers,

968
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,040
horrors, with their insurances.

969
01:13:25,820 --> 01:13:27,320
Because we're using the gymnasiums.

970
01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:31,440
The eagle, they'll get hurt more than gymnasium in the grass.

971
01:13:32,020 --> 01:13:33,060
We're already inside the building.

972
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,560
So eagle, wreck, is using the gym.

973
01:13:35,740 --> 01:13:38,760
So I don't know why they have to have to have a process

974
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,740
because if they're allowing you to use the gyms,

975
01:13:41,140 --> 01:13:42,720
they have the same thing for the field.

976
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:44,060
Yeah.

977
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,940
You bring in, you use our grim in,

978
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,800
you bring proof of insurance, and it's got to be there.

979
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,280
I can't imagine a district not having that.

980
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:59,260
Well, it's an easy phone call, a dark and I can talk, and we can find out what provisions

981
01:13:59,260 --> 01:14:00,200
are there.

982
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:01,000
So.

983
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:09,240
Mr. Mayor, just to reinforce, I agree with what Commissioner Faustina is saying, I feel

984
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,620
like this needs to be absolutely, we're not accepting no one just moving on further deeper

985
01:14:14,620 --> 01:14:15,120
conversation.

986
01:14:15,620 --> 01:14:20,480
One question I do have is, are there more than one, is there more than one school

987
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:23,140
district in the city of Eagle, or is it just West

988
01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:23,400
Aida?

989
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,940
So, the West charter school is the only private schools,

990
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,680
charter schools, West Aida, and then some kids go

991
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,720
to Boise school district.

992
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:39,840
Well, it seems to me like school districts and representatives

993
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,620
who are on the school board really listen to their parents

994
01:14:43,620 --> 01:14:48,680
and get elected by listening to their parents and the lack

995
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,720
of being able to do recreative activities in the city is a huge concern, so perhaps that's another avenue to explore.

996
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,140
Well, I like the topics.

997
01:14:56,980 --> 01:14:57,360
Thank you.

998
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:57,440
Thank you.

999
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:12,120
I think we should, right, is we're looking at field space. I mean, at least it gives us a pivot. If we identify that we need

1000
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:25,360
X number of football soccer, whatever fields. And we said, well, we can't build it, but yet we can pivot and maybe maybe it's an agreement. I know in the city that I was involved in, in another state.

1001
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:31,760
And I won't name, we took over the city help partnership with the school district to do field maintenance.

1002
01:15:32,380 --> 01:15:35,520
Because the school district was not maintaining the field up to a standard.

1003
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:43,480
So the city said in return to use these fields for our youth league, we're going to maintain the field space for you in the back of the school.

1004
01:15:44,620 --> 01:15:48,840
And that was, so there are, these are types of agreements that we could put.

1005
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:55,140
And I'm not saying that that's the, that's the golden goose, but it is field space within it.

1006
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,740
The other one I said is the HOA fields.

1007
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,980
There's huge spaces in legacy in these other areas that

1008
01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:07,420
direct departments as we cap out with soccer, right?

1009
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,800
We limit the ages.

1010
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,080
There's a need.

1011
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,640
Other than that, these parents are being forced to go

1012
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,140
to private clubs at multiple thousands of dollars a year,

1013
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,660
because we don't have the ability to move up.

1014
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,600
Well, the field space is the issue with that.

1015
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,720
I think it's a big issue.

1016
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,180
We have legacy in others.

1017
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:29,080
We don't need 10 fields all in one spot.

1018
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,960
We could use multiple different parks.

1019
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,680
So you does an HOA have a large enough field

1020
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,600
that we could use for recreation programs

1021
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,180
or camps or things of that nature.

1022
01:16:41,740 --> 01:16:44,540
So school district HOAs, I think it's stakeholders

1023
01:16:44,540 --> 01:16:46,920
within the city, how can we bring people together

1024
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,960
to address this?

1025
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:52,560
Because I just don't think we're going to pass a levy

1026
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:57,780
in the residents to say we want the funding so we could build two more sports parks.

1027
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:10,820
I'd like that idea. The question that comes is if we include those in our inventory, does that increase or decrease our deficiencies for our impact fees?

1028
01:17:11,220 --> 01:17:12,120
I don't think it includes.

1029
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,500
I would just like to check it down.

1030
01:17:18,020 --> 01:17:23,160
other facilities, right? So, here's our inventory, here's some other potential

1031
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,920
facilities and keep it out of the, you know, because again, if we need to go for

1032
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,660
impact fees, we don't want, oh well you actually have all this here too, right?

1033
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:43,420
So, and we incorporate it to our view park yet in our inventory, this is not the

1034
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:48,120
right like that. So I'll make sure that's that's the most recent one we're coming up with.

1035
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,260
Would it not the chair of what it's guaranteed? Yeah, they have 34 acres.

1036
01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:57,080
There are 24 acres that we could ask them. They already said the public could kind of walk through

1037
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,540
there and everything, you know, and they're going to do something. But that's one of those things that

1038
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:09,220
there's if there's a will there's a way type deal. So we just need to ask the questions, but they're not

1039
01:18:09,220 --> 01:18:16,240
You know, they're either built with that yet, but they're developing the neighborhood so we can.

1040
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:17,180
So now's the time to have that.

1041
01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:18,160
Yeah, we can have that conversation.

1042
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:28,840
You know, the interesting part of that, as far as, you know, the challenge to be, you've got folks living there who are paying each of a fees to have access to their facilities.

1043
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:33,380
And then suddenly, you know, certain number of hours a week, they don't have access to those.

1044
01:18:33,380 --> 01:18:36,840
And so you'd have to probably get them on board with some kind of vote.

1045
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:37,780
What's one of that?

1046
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:44,240
For turnta, they brought up that to us, we specifically asked, is this going to be a private

1047
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,800
HOA park and they said, no, the public has right to use it.

1048
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,800
I don't know how to review the tape again, but some more back in that conversation was done,

1049
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,740
but that doesn't mean it's a all the way across the board with all HOA's.

1050
01:18:58,060 --> 01:19:01,000
That's kind of a vehicle terminology that covers the area.

1051
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,540
You're going to have to like, they're available to the public, but scheduling them and

1052
01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:08,100
and the wear and tear from the project.

1053
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,980
Like that normally comes with like a maintenance of green men

1054
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:11,460
or something.

1055
01:19:11,780 --> 01:19:13,060
But we can look into that first.

1056
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,960
And every time we say something about maintenance,

1057
01:19:15,340 --> 01:19:17,300
just remember the air, so we're pulling this hair out

1058
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:21,300
because he doesn't have a staffing to do it to do it together, right now.

1059
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:22,680
But yeah.

1060
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,480
Yeah, speaking of maintenance.

1061
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,700
So that first one up there we wanted to touch on was

1062
01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:32,420
yeah, maintaining that level of service at the 3.3.

1063
01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:34,810
My process.

1064
01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:41,210
That's the current, current opportunity is to think about me, just maintain

1065
01:19:41,210 --> 01:19:45,030
creasing out in that, but do you want to look at increasing it?

1066
01:19:46,230 --> 01:19:51,170
What about, you know, if you've been not to start a hunter park out there, do that great being

1067
01:19:51,170 --> 01:19:54,910
park, that's right on the edge of the subdivision, that's what I've been through into, and it's

1068
01:19:54,910 --> 01:19:59,910
used all the time for sports, it's got to park, parking, and it's got to support sports.

1069
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,740
Senate has got the snack shack. The whole thing is, and it's so used by the public, so I'm thinking, there are some opportunities that we can peek at.

1070
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:21,540
I just, just a comment on all of this. I've done two tours of every park in the city in the last month, and I went this week and two eyes over at Gerber Park.

1071
01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:24,080
That place was packed.

1072
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:26,580
It was every lunch y'all there was full.

1073
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:30,260
People were kids from the splash pad.

1074
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,860
Soccer fields were full.

1075
01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:34,120
It was exciting to see that they were using.

1076
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,480
That's a beautiful park and well-maintained.

1077
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:37,760
It's well-used.

1078
01:20:37,900 --> 01:20:38,560
Yeah, well-used.

1079
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:39,700
Yeah, well-used.

1080
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,800
I'm going to the heart of that.

1081
01:20:43,180 --> 01:20:43,940
All right.

1082
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,480
Let us go up now.

1083
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:47,680
One,

1084
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:57,500
we went over, there's kind of like greenish blob, here is looking at, they know there are

1085
01:20:57,500 --> 01:21:01,540
HOA facilities in there but could we put another community park somewhere in there, that could

1086
01:21:01,540 --> 01:21:09,800
be programmable with small fields and stuff. So it's basically like lender road to the west.

1087
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:17,620
You're going to have to have a review, which is right here, but that area is kind of like

1088
01:21:17,620 --> 01:21:22,200
boxed in without like a bigger community park that has some of those like bigger.

1089
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:23,380
That's interesting.

1090
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,100
That's pretty awesome.

1091
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:25,760
That's pretty awesome.

1092
01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:26,480
That's pretty awesome.

1093
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,660
It's all taken right there.

1094
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:34,360
The only thing I don't know about in our bill or brick for that matter is if what's available

1095
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:39,360
in the county adjacent to us if they'd be wanting to look into

1096
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:42,500
annexating annexation or something.

1097
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:43,580
I mean...

1098
01:21:43,580 --> 01:21:45,220
Yeah, we were kind of like, what about this area?

1099
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,860
That's in the county.

1100
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:50,780
They were kind of like strapped for space.

1101
01:21:51,380 --> 01:21:51,920
Believe it or not.

1102
01:21:53,740 --> 01:21:56,060
The terror of you, part, is that I haven't seen that one.

1103
01:21:56,220 --> 01:21:57,660
Is that north of Beacon Light?

1104
01:21:58,660 --> 01:21:58,900
All right.

1105
01:21:59,600 --> 01:21:59,740
Yeah.

1106
01:22:00,700 --> 01:22:03,400
If you run straight up Palmer, go over Beacon Light.

1107
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,920
you'll run and you'll be in it.

1108
01:22:05,380 --> 01:22:06,660
But it's not completed.

1109
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,200
It's pretty close.

1110
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:10,240
Eric, I'll close next spring.

1111
01:22:25,460 --> 01:22:28,400
Yeah, I think I'm always like to use it for this day out

1112
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,740
because people call you on it.

1113
01:22:30,860 --> 01:22:31,720
You said five o'clock.

1114
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:33,680
Yeah, that's like five o'clock.

1115
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:34,900
Sorry.

1116
01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:39,160
You guys already brought up some ones.

1117
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,100
So feel free to bring up things that you pointed out.

1118
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,960
I'll highlight a few, but yeah, the pathways.

1119
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:54,040
So we want to update the system map and so looking at future pathways, there's a number of lines on here.

1120
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,500
We don't have time to go through every single line.

1121
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:02,980
But we do want to add some additional lines on this map so that, you know, as development comes in,

1122
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:10,740
we want to ensure that connectivity, especially between sort of like older city and then the foot hills.

1123
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:17,540
I'm making sure that we have lines there, and so a lot of those pathways would be, yeah,

1124
01:23:17,660 --> 01:23:23,300
they would be on there on that map for the future vision as development comes in.

1125
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:33,280
With that, you know, working with ACHD and ITT, working with the irrigation district,

1126
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:36,800
which companies like we have mentioned and to ensure that connectivity.

1127
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:39,600
And this is the time you want to do that.

1128
01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:45,000
You want to get in there and get all that connectivity established before then the development of it.

1129
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:45,960
Yeah.

1130
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,000
Right.

1131
01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:47,780
Yeah.

1132
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,080
It did that for a while.

1133
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,580
Opportunities missed decades ago.

1134
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,000
Yeah.

1135
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:53,320
Yeah.

1136
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,560
A lot of them.

1137
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:05,840
So in this opportunity, this whole thing that did this come from part of the last meetings that we had with.

1138
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:12,140
Yeah, it's a combination of all the information that we've collected in the beginning of the project.

1139
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:19,140
So this is the opportunity to kind of say, like, oh, this is missing, or we need to refine that,

1140
01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:25,640
or we need to make sure that's in there, so that we can continue to evaluate that and take it forward.

1141
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:32,460
So, what an interesting tidbit we heard in the earlier meetings that when the ACHD

1142
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:41,680
Widen's lender, as it goes from 44 up toward Chinden, that they already have in their plans.

1143
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,580
They want to try to build an underpass underlender.

1144
01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:49,540
So, you know, there was a lot of concern about whether there was anybody

1145
01:24:49,540 --> 01:24:55,660
ability really to get from the U.S. State Park to lender and then from lender under

1146
01:24:55,660 --> 01:24:59,320
where we can hit the parking lot that the city is already built there on the pathway that

1147
01:24:59,320 --> 01:24:59,960
comes off it.

1148
01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:14,610
And they said that is in their plans. So I don't know how long it's going to take them, but the fact that it's there is a huge plus. And it also gives us more reason to be pushing for that pathway through the park, coming up the other end eventually getting landed.

1149
01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:15,110
Governor···1 to the call

1150
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:16,550
really good right

1151
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:18,950
And that's where we're really good at bas

1152
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:20,530
for some kind of federal aid

1153
01:25:20,530 --> 01:25:22,910
in the grants because the city does not have money

1154
01:25:22,910 --> 01:25:24,910
to do underpass right now.

1155
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:27,030
Well, they say, they see, excuse me,

1156
01:25:27,190 --> 01:25:29,290
they tell you about doing it so I don't I mean to no.

1157
01:25:29,290 --> 01:25:31,790
Well, they were, i think you're looking for atee,

1158
01:25:31,790 --> 01:25:32,510
we should cover them here around here for atee?

1159
01:25:32,510 --> 01:25:36,670
Yeah they are explaining, building registers.

1160
01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:41,790
Thank you, that's what we're talking about doing it

1161
01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:41,910
.

1162
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:49,690
We also get there's a number of connections, we have a lender connection, a connection at 44 and

1163
01:25:49,690 --> 01:25:57,330
Eagle Road, beacon light and I was five and then the entrance to Eagle, improving pedestrian

1164
01:25:57,330 --> 01:26:04,150
and bicycle access for safety, crossing some of those major roads into our major recreation.

1165
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:10,910
Did you get information from ITD or, remember those, those are some renderings of overpasses

1166
01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:13,950
that people came up with in the end or passed

1167
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:14,770
with the cost.

1168
01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:17,590
It is some cost analysis plus location.

1169
01:26:18,430 --> 01:26:20,010
Mainly it was edgewood and 44,

1170
01:26:20,270 --> 01:26:22,150
so what they were looking at for a point,

1171
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:25,810
but did we incorporate me that in our notes or anything?

1172
01:26:26,350 --> 01:26:28,650
Yes, that is

1173
01:26:34,190 --> 01:26:34,310
the...

1174
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:35,310
Yeah, it would be used to it.

1175
01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:36,030
It'd be used to it.

1176
01:26:36,030 --> 01:26:38,270
Okay, yeah, that's actually shown on the map.

1177
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:42,540
It's used to it all the time.

1178
01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:44,220
Well, if you've got a doctor in it,

1179
01:26:44,380 --> 01:26:44,680
that's good.

1180
01:26:44,860 --> 01:26:45,080
That's good.

1181
01:26:46,020 --> 01:26:46,120
Yeah, yeah.

1182
01:26:47,460 --> 01:26:51,000
Yeah, they evaluated both an underpass and an overpass.

1183
01:26:51,020 --> 01:26:53,720
Their underpass was like, that's going to be, yeah.

1184
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:59,460
So we do have that noted in here and shown on the map.

1185
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:06,640
And another ITD related issue that came up last evening was also the fact that we have literally

1186
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,960
no pedestrian access to Ego Island State Park.

1187
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:10,880
I mean, isn't that crazy?

1188
01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:11,480
We think about it.

1189
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:17,000
It's the largest park by far, you can't walk into it, because there's no crosswalk to get

1190
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:22,920
cross 44 and once you get across, there's no sidewalk until you get to the bridge within

1191
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:29,160
the park. So the discussion was that ITD would be responsible for putting in that crosswalk,

1192
01:27:29,180 --> 01:27:32,840
but they didn't want to pay for it. So I don't know if that we need to revive a discussion

1193
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:39,340
with them about essentially putting it across walk, improving the signalization so you can

1194
01:27:39,340 --> 01:27:43,780
account for people walking across it, then having the state begin because it would be the

1195
01:27:43,780 --> 01:27:48,700
after that, putting in enough sidewalk to get to the bridge so that you could have a safe pedestrian

1196
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:56,940
in access to the park. We've been working on that one for way before me, but I mean, it's been

1197
01:27:56,940 --> 01:28:02,220
been there for a while and every time there's a, there's some kind of blockade we start talking

1198
01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:06,860
about a simple crosswalk across. Well, they don't want to pay for it. So the question is, I think

1199
01:28:06,860 --> 01:28:12,640
we also would pay for it though. I mean, it's a crosswalk is different. My thing is never seen

1200
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,280
especially after the signal goes in at Palmer in 44.

1201
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:27,980
I think we've got an opportunity there to justify safety from Eagle Road to 16 at that point.

1202
01:28:28,180 --> 01:28:28,580
Safety.

1203
01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:36,820
And even the ACHG gets all the calls for the one in them to do at the after transfer

1204
01:28:36,820 --> 01:28:44,020
over this ITD so she said they got tons. I said can we get a hold of the number of calls that you've got when they came in and we'll take those

1205
01:28:44,020 --> 01:28:51,340
get a committee to go to ITD board and stand in the room. Funding has always been the strategic initiatives that

1206
01:28:51,340 --> 01:28:58,120
whole program was. I watched a chance I'd like to hear so that it calls. The lender, I mean that if I go to 10

1207
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:03,620
miles across you. There are things ever we need to do this kind of thing to make it happen.

1208
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:04,080
Yeah.

1209
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,480
Put on a map, put it on a plan, speak out loud a little bit.

1210
01:29:07,980 --> 01:29:10,480
Well, I mean, there has to be conversation at the highest levels.

1211
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,980
You guys, between, you know, wherever it is, make things happen in ITD.

1212
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:19,360
Well, they've, like I said, the underpass, they think it's great, but they want us to pay for it.

1213
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:20,060
No, yeah.

1214
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,340
I mean, that's just, that's ACHD.

1215
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:23,020
And I'm telling you.

1216
01:29:23,060 --> 01:29:23,380
I'm telling you.

1217
01:29:23,580 --> 01:29:23,960
I'm telling you.

1218
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,020
I'm telling you.

1219
01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:29,380
They've had a good conversation with some of their people.

1220
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:32,400
We could just keep asking.

1221
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:33,480
I mean...

1222
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:34,180
Just keep it on our mind!

1223
01:29:34,180 --> 01:29:35,540
Yeah, just keep it on the elevator!

1224
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:36,320
Push it out there, push it out there.

1225
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,480
There's a board member, sign for you.

1226
01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:39,960
There's that as you go too.

1227
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:40,920
Just kind of find a picture.

1228
01:29:41,260 --> 01:29:43,420
There are people standing there waiting for it.

1229
01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:46,820
We definitely might have a problem there.

1230
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,720
A few others that I wanted to get you input on.

1231
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,900
So under the Open Space category, updating the...

1232
01:29:54,420 --> 01:29:59,980
The conceptual master plan for the Shooting Sports Park with the...

1233
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:14,740
You know, development going in, and the foothills looking at this area to maybe provide more diverse recreation experiences like hiking, equestrian trails, such as things, looking at that as an overall concept plan.

1234
01:30:16,210 --> 01:30:37,650
And if you spoke with Elena, recently our historical preservation, yeah, so she's really, she's going to start coming to a lot of your guys, you know, help with some of the documentation stuff she's working on, but I've got her working on the whole hill on a lot of historical stuff and opportunities for

1235
01:30:37,650 --> 01:30:43,650
Yeah, like a second to last bullet around the Oregon National Historic Trail, good old cut off,

1236
01:30:43,690 --> 01:30:50,350
some really, you know, nationally snipped in historical resources to go through the

1237
01:30:50,350 --> 01:30:50,670
business.

1238
01:30:52,110 --> 01:30:55,590
Yeah, I think we need to hear more about what the study has.

1239
01:30:56,790 --> 01:31:07,210
More areas in the foothills, working with the BLM to complete the application for the

1240
01:31:07,210 --> 01:31:14,210
1,800 piece parcel that a recreation plan had been developed a couple of years ago, so continuing to

1241
01:31:14,910 --> 01:31:21,290
coordinate with that and then figuring out what amenities, what trails, what maintenance looks like,

1242
01:31:21,550 --> 01:31:22,570
operations looks like up there.

1243
01:31:22,930 --> 01:31:26,690
You may want to ask these folks where they're at with that, because that's happening right now.

1244
01:31:26,770 --> 01:31:27,470
Things are happening.

1245
01:31:29,230 --> 01:31:34,570
So if you guys do know for what you put in the plan, it'd be good to know what the status of that is.

1246
01:31:34,570 --> 01:31:44,250
whether it's Charlie or whoever wants to get it, whoever, I don't, we're all in the

1247
01:31:44,250 --> 01:31:45,390
room together.

1248
01:31:45,650 --> 01:31:46,970
Update on our PP.

1249
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:48,450
Yeah, our PP.

1250
01:31:51,010 --> 01:31:51,270
Our concern.

1251
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:51,590
Our concern.

1252
01:31:52,190 --> 01:31:52,710
Our concern.

1253
01:31:55,630 --> 01:31:56,370
Our concern.

1254
01:31:56,730 --> 01:31:57,630
Our concern.

1255
01:32:02,410 --> 01:32:03,610
Our concern.

1256
01:32:03,610 --> 01:32:09,390
near the end of September and then we'll be bringing that to an internal coordination meeting

1257
01:32:09,390 --> 01:32:14,170
going over your year-long process approximately and then we'll do a public presentation to

1258
01:32:14,170 --> 01:32:19,530
the council probably in the middle meeting of October and then hit the ground running from there

1259
01:32:19,530 --> 01:32:22,990
but that's just a really short update on the start of the process.

1260
01:32:25,500 --> 01:32:26,780
Another one you can put in the

1261
01:32:26,780 --> 01:32:34,160
plan and check it off, right? One thing we did talk about at the advisory work group is creating

1262
01:32:34,160 --> 01:33:03,680
And it's not on this list, but like a partnership, so that, you know, when you're planning for that BLM parcel and don't know of us planning and the BLM, the existing BLM plan, other land and there's a kind of a partnership between trails and so you're not just planning those properties specifically, it kind of came from like a river to trails kind of concept that there's multiple different partners, you might work with like IDL who has land up there as well and things like that so there's like a partnership.

1263
01:33:04,620 --> 01:33:10,880
And you're not, you know, you're looking at the trails regionally and then how is that connect even farther into the

1264
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:13,970
question you can each of them

1265
01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:16,610
What about the citywide tribal?

1266
01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:18,890
What about the acknowledgement?

1267
01:33:19,490 --> 01:33:20,590
Yeah, what that's about.

1268
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:33,090
Yeah, so that actually came from Alena as well, mentioning that there's with the historical National Historic Trail, we're looking at a lot of different types of cultural resources.

1269
01:33:33,090 --> 01:33:42,890
and so there's traditional land tribal lands within this area and so looking at how the city

1270
01:33:42,890 --> 01:33:49,550
has interacted and continue to acknowledge that this is the ancestral home lands of a number of

1271
01:33:49,550 --> 01:33:57,770
of tribes and continue to share their history as well. We'll be getting details with them

1272
01:33:57,770 --> 01:34:01,270
with some of their tribal chiefs here pretty easily.

1273
01:34:01,690 --> 01:34:03,410
Oh, and as you know that's great.

1274
01:34:03,790 --> 01:34:05,330
Yeah, that together.

1275
01:34:07,050 --> 01:34:07,420
Yeah.

1276
01:34:07,790 --> 01:34:08,450
Which one did the guy?

1277
01:34:12,350 --> 01:34:12,470
Yeah.

1278
01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:12,730
That's true.

1279
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:16,180
Yeah.

1280
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:17,300
That's a valid contract.

1281
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:18,660
That's true.

1282
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:19,960
That's true.

1283
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:20,960
That's true.

1284
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:24,040
That's true.

1285
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:24,100
Yeah.

1286
01:34:24,340 --> 01:34:25,080
That's true.

1287
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,380
That's true.

1288
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,000
That's true.

1289
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:30,900
That's true.

1290
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:37,960
whether river improvements, access points, maybe potential revenue, generation of a river float

1291
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,120
in making that improving it for safety, but also potential like rentals as well.

1292
01:34:42,340 --> 01:34:46,760
So if we can't move out that, we'd have to work with a number of partners on that.

1293
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:52,760
Game and fish brought up at the Vesra group meeting, just making sure we consider wildlife habitat

1294
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:59,960
and fish habitat as part of that process. So the more natural areas of the river are involved.

1295
01:35:15,020 --> 01:35:29,300
I think we're going to get a report, though, on the river, on the Green Belt. There's two sections that either need to repair or complete it.

1296
01:35:29,300 --> 01:35:36,300
The one by pig latin that I think it looked like it had been washed out, and then there's a whole area dirt area

1297
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,900
In a undeveloped area

1298
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,280
It would be

1299
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,820
Would be east of that's a rebel I think.

1300
01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:46,600
Just getting your hunter homes were they're good to film.

1301
01:35:46,780 --> 01:35:47,520
That's what I did.

1302
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,960
And I just didn't know what was going on with that.

1303
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:50,980
Did they develop that?

1304
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:52,680
They're going to be working on that.

1305
01:35:53,140 --> 01:35:54,600
Do we have a details on

1306
01:35:58,270 --> 01:35:58,710
Farmstead?

1307
01:35:58,990 --> 01:36:00,970
No, it's the farmstead.

1308
01:36:04,150 --> 01:36:04,630
I

1309
01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:11,940
don't know if there's any true up to each other if there's not anything.

1310
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,180
But it's not to have to be right now, but it is.

1311
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,100
Yeah, it's on there.

1312
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:17,600
You look down.

1313
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:18,180
Okay.

1314
01:36:18,340 --> 01:36:21,620
I think to tell you the other question is on the west side of the bridge.

1315
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:22,140
Right.

1316
01:36:22,180 --> 01:36:22,780
I think it's the road.

1317
01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:26,920
It's always been sort of confusing about whether the city had the easement

1318
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,700
and the charge of the maintenance or whether the folks who built that.

1319
01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:33,560
there's still any answer for some of those questions

1320
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,540
on that part.

1321
01:36:34,780 --> 01:36:36,760
Still have the maintenance because that part

1322
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,600
has been unapproved for quite a long time.

1323
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,360
Yeah, people are asking for a walk out.

1324
01:36:41,060 --> 01:36:42,640
There's some things that they're asking for.

1325
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,380
It's like we also sort of kind of comment on both areas.

1326
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,000
So down by the pedestrian bridge, it's back behind

1327
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,440
Big Latin there that we are on the hook for maintenance

1328
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,200
and that there are most of that was improved.

1329
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,880
North channel there was improved with

1330
01:36:57,820 --> 01:37:00,600
Dennis Baker and all that and that was all said.

1331
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:07,620
And that improvement to pay that is in the missed capital plan, I guess far as in the improvement

1332
01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:09,420
there, and it's on the list for improvement.

1333
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:16,060
The other person that you're talking about that's back behind Merrill, that's part of a development

1334
01:37:16,060 --> 01:37:17,260
with Hunter Holmes there.

1335
01:37:17,380 --> 01:37:22,620
I believe that when that does get developed, it is in that to pay that and connect that

1336
01:37:22,620 --> 01:37:24,020
vendor ship it there.

1337
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:25,760
So hopefully that clear the confusion.

1338
01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:39,360
The next session around recreation, some of the key highlights here are, you know, to expand

1339
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:46,340
recreation we need indoor space, you know, in addition to the outdoor space. So one opportunity is

1340
01:37:46,340 --> 01:37:54,520
to look at a feasibility study to complete a small, a small recreation center. So this, if I

1341
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:59,800
like your full service like weeds and gyms, but it would have rentable space, it would have

1342
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:05,860
the gym space, maybe have like kitchen in it, and some small recreation offices for like

1343
01:38:05,860 --> 01:38:10,040
a drop-in or not drop-in, but more of the schedule for a running.

1344
01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:14,980
Is that what you indicated on their across from Eagle Elementary in that space?

1345
01:38:15,220 --> 01:38:20,140
So there, yeah, and we might take that out, Phil, I think the consider the landing as an interim

1346
01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:27,780
space for that is that yeah yeah that's probably yeah it was

1347
01:38:27,780 --> 01:38:32,220
years ago they had a place called the landing it was like a small poison

1348
01:38:32,220 --> 01:38:37,580
girls type club and we would have to look for a different location that was

1349
01:38:37,580 --> 01:38:41,600
one thing you know like because it was used in the past as well as a possible

1350
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,960
for like an interim space maybe but for a long-term space we'd have to look at

1351
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:51,960
Yeah, but I don't even know if an interim space, what's the, what's the place on the ranch?

1352
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:54,400
The Innovate campus?

1353
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,040
That's kind of right there.

1354
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:56,600
Yeah.

1355
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,520
The Innovate, they're, they're not there.

1356
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:00,080
They move.

1357
01:39:00,340 --> 01:39:01,080
They open it.

1358
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:01,940
They own it.

1359
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:02,500
Yeah.

1360
01:39:03,140 --> 01:39:05,480
They don't want to, they don't want to do anything right now.

1361
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:06,480
They just like to hang there.

1362
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:07,240
Yeah.

1363
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:08,300
Yeah.

1364
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:09,760
So, things to change.

1365
01:39:10,220 --> 01:39:12,080
But because I was going to create a possible,

1366
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,760
And about some recreation, down town right there.

1367
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,820
Elementary, Eagle Elementary School.

1368
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:22,220
There was a time they were going to take the whole campus up on the top and have that lower

1369
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:24,680
gym part.

1370
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,620
We made it look at that and see where, because I haven't got it up for it.

1371
01:39:28,620 --> 01:39:29,460
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1372
01:39:29,460 --> 01:39:30,760
Either side of the street there.

1373
01:39:30,820 --> 01:39:31,120
Yeah, right.

1374
01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:32,580
When you couldn't get it better location.

1375
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:34,360
Yeah, good thing.

1376
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,800
Look, keep the general area.

1377
01:39:36,020 --> 01:39:36,280
Yeah.

1378
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:37,680
Yeah.

1379
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:38,700
This is school has parking.

1380
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:40,680
Yeah, this is the district.

1381
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:41,620
Yeah, this is the district.

1382
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:52,840
Yeah, so I mentioned the cost recovery plan, this would like to set goals to assess

1383
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:53,680
the records.

1384
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,120
To set goals for assessing recreation, programming fees, there's some recommendations

1385
01:39:59,420 --> 01:39:59,900
that you know.

1386
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:18,420
For things like programs, you're just trying to cover the cost of the facility or supplies, but then for events events that are specific to birthday parties or something like you're renting it, then you should be looking at charging more for those because you're uncovering additional costs.

1387
01:40:18,420 --> 01:40:22,420
But setting that policy so it's not like here.

1388
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:26,540
If you understand what you're learning this.

1389
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,660
This is included funding.

1390
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:34,900
There is another section.

1391
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:36,480
We're almost there.

1392
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:42,440
We're going to do operations first and so operations.

1393
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,440
Quickly, just making sure we have maintenance standards.

1394
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,120
Looking at contracting outmoving.

1395
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:55,780
knowing some of these like less specialized things that could be cheaper, you know, landscaping

1396
01:40:55,780 --> 01:41:02,280
companies can do them while city staff can work on actually maintaining playgrounds and doing

1397
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:08,040
the more certified license activities is one way to think about that.

1398
01:41:08,060 --> 01:41:14,500
Adopt an asset management tracking system making sure that we have a schedule for life cycle

1399
01:41:14,500 --> 01:41:19,680
maintenance. And so, you know, typical playground, for example, is, you know, it's going to need

1400
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:24,940
to repair it in 10 years. So, just making sure that we're accounting for that.

1401
01:41:26,510 --> 01:41:27,850
There's a little bit of big ones.

1402
01:41:32,940 --> 01:41:36,100
There we can. So, yeah, implementation includes a couple

1403
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:39,920
different things. So, like I mentioned, especially with, like, the pathways, for example, we can

1404
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:44,860
implement these through a number of ways. So, the development code, we're looking at making

1405
01:41:44,860 --> 01:41:50,680
sure that through the development code, they're incorporating the pathways as shown on the pathways

1406
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:57,180
plan, and they're building parks and recreation amenities to the standards, so even if they

1407
01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:02,440
are being built through the HOA, they're still, you know, what we want to see in our community.

1408
01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:11,300
Impact fees, and so this one, yeah, what we would do is like through a different study,

1409
01:42:11,300 --> 01:42:14,600
because it's a very specific study.

1410
01:42:14,780 --> 01:42:17,280
I'll put this, I'll put the victors name next to this one,

1411
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,840
but this is continually updated and revised,

1412
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:22,760
but we know, you know, land prices are changing,

1413
01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:23,960
the cost of development.

1414
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,540
So the other thing that takes into consideration is

1415
01:42:26,540 --> 01:42:29,520
like the actual amenities that go into a park,

1416
01:42:29,620 --> 01:42:30,740
what those are costs, and so.

1417
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,060
And then also updating it with the current level of service.

1418
01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:35,880
So if we update the current level of service,

1419
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,220
you would want to update your impact fee study.

1420
01:42:38,260 --> 01:42:40,400
So that would be something that happens during implementation.

1421
01:42:44,940 --> 01:42:45,940
And then funding.

1422
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:56,800
So yeah, we have a number of items around funding talking about, you know, that cost recovery program.

1423
01:42:56,980 --> 01:43:05,840
And so that's one way to generate additional revenue is making sure that you have that policy for that cost recovery so that you can, you know, look at all of your different

1424
01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:12,020
your fees, so that could be vendors, events, obviously the program's and the

1425
01:43:12,020 --> 01:43:18,020
facilities, so that would take a more comprehensive plan. It would look at every single

1426
01:43:18,020 --> 01:43:21,620
program, for example, like, what do we charging or what do we want to do for

1427
01:43:21,620 --> 01:43:25,880
soccer or what do we want to do for events, so it would take a look at every single

1428
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:33,800
thing that you're offering and to have for grants, continue to apply for grants,

1429
01:43:35,900 --> 01:43:41,360
some communities that we work in have like a citywide sort of grant manager so that you

1430
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:47,000
have someone that can write those and manage those so that's something to consider or

1431
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:52,700
you can always contract out that grant writing. It does take time and you're talking about like

1432
01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:58,020
you know even for the federal maybe getting federal funding for the underpass for Linda for

1433
01:43:58,020 --> 01:44:03,640
example, making sure that you're meeting the correct requirements for that.

1434
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:12,480
The property tax, that would be your main tax for long-term maintenance and management.

1435
01:44:13,860 --> 01:44:21,480
And so there are ways to look at a more specific question.

1436
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:29,220
Like I said, depending on what the implementation priorities are, we could look at recommending

1437
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:33,200
to do a valid discussion on a specific item.

1438
01:44:33,580 --> 01:44:36,220
We wouldn't actually do that as part of this process.

1439
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:42,700
But looking at your top five implementation, would you want to consider something just for

1440
01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:48,480
a specific facility, or would you want to consider overall

1441
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:52,580
overall maintenance and operations as well.

1442
01:44:53,180 --> 01:44:57,100
So that would look at, it would go out and do some of that polling.

1443
01:44:57,540 --> 01:44:59,560
It would actually look at what that program would fund.

1444
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,640
So look at that conversation.

1445
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:10,000
Do you think our maintenance fee is adequate for our three cents on dollar, whatever it is?

1446
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:15,740
Now, with our capital project, we have a maintenance approach. We started that six years ago,

1447
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,260
seven, six and a half years ago. Have you looked at that?

1448
01:45:19,260 --> 01:45:23,180
Oh, I don't think I looked at that maintenance E.

1449
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,340
Yeah, for a capital we started that.

1450
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,040
Well, I want to say six that.

1451
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,340
It's 2020, I think we started it.

1452
01:45:33,740 --> 01:45:34,860
We can look at that.

1453
01:45:34,980 --> 01:45:38,440
You had to see if that's valid, or is it that equivalent or not?

1454
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,220
And then I think the final.

1455
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:46,920
The final one.

1456
01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:47,840
Yeah, through implementing.

1457
01:45:47,900 --> 01:45:48,880
Can you go back to one?

1458
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:50,300
Is that a real quick question?

1459
01:45:51,020 --> 01:45:52,640
I've seen this naming right.

1460
01:45:52,780 --> 01:45:54,940
It's a couple of times listed in the stuff.

1461
01:45:54,940 --> 01:46:00,660
Is there anything that where we have anything with naming rights like any part field?

1462
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:07,940
Quite a few things

1463
01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:15,720
Yes, yes, yes, you see you have a few things coming up, but I was just about it and put their name on something

1464
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,900
Yeah, I was just thinking about like the

1465
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:22,660
Pickleball courts are going in getting self-curc to come in and

1466
01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:27,880
Anyway, I just think a lot of these.

1467
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,780
Yeah, that's right.

1468
01:46:29,020 --> 01:46:30,260
That's what I thought I saw that.

1469
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:31,580
It's a boarding team.

1470
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:33,840
It's not allowed advertising under jerseys.

1471
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,480
Now everybody's plastered with it.

1472
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:36,360
It's a really reasonable.

1473
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:38,940
That's great.

1474
01:46:39,480 --> 01:46:39,760
That's great.

1475
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:40,360
Yeah.

1476
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:40,940
That's great.

1477
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:42,700
Another

1478
01:46:46,610 --> 01:46:47,970
one.

1479
01:46:48,270 --> 01:46:48,350
Yeah.

1480
01:46:48,410 --> 01:46:49,090
The final one.

1481
01:46:49,210 --> 01:46:51,750
Through implementation is as you increase, you know,

1482
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:54,590
if you have an indoor facility as the regional park comes online.

1483
01:46:54,610 --> 01:46:57,530
You want to maintain that part, the staffing.

1484
01:46:57,530 --> 01:47:04,370
So, as we, as we bring things online, so that we have that same FTE per per acre's managed.

1485
01:47:06,510 --> 01:47:12,730
And then, looking at, you know, maybe a volunteer position to coordinate some additional volunteer efforts,

1486
01:47:12,990 --> 01:47:14,270
and to clean up some of our parts,

1487
01:47:16,430 --> 01:47:17,430
and that's sort of bigger.

1488
01:47:20,490 --> 01:47:24,350
And then, yeah, as you grow, you know, I think the point of this is, as you grow,

1489
01:47:24,350 --> 01:47:28,190
continue to evaluate how we're providing services and making sure that we're maintaining

1490
01:47:28,190 --> 01:47:29,410
that level of service in the state.

1491
01:47:30,270 --> 01:47:37,630
Do we as part of any of the staffing taking the consideration, and I know, like the police

1492
01:47:37,630 --> 01:47:42,470
department is pretty stretched out, right? So, I mean, we have an issue of Gerber, I think,

1493
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:50,170
with up-leash dogs is all the time over there. But we can expect the share of the department

1494
01:47:50,170 --> 01:47:52,170
to be sending people just to control parks.

1495
01:47:52,970 --> 01:47:57,930
Are we considering on any of this the impact to that if we have more parks

1496
01:47:57,930 --> 01:48:03,990
space if we have more parks spread out, how we're going to patrol things, make sure

1497
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:07,750
that the parks are staying clean, other than our maintenance department does a lot of that

1498
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:12,970
because they're there, but that's a big asset of them to do that on top of everything else

1499
01:48:12,970 --> 01:48:13,670
they have to do.

1500
01:48:13,670 --> 01:48:14,930
Park security, guys.

1501
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:20,150
Yeah, so even if we look to do like a volunteer patrol unit where you get

1502
01:48:20,150 --> 01:48:26,790
of them, you give them an eagle police squad car that we can buy for cheap. They're not police officers,

1503
01:48:27,090 --> 01:48:31,650
but they are volunteer patrol that they go to parks throughout the area.

1504
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:35,150
We do have the Sheriff's Park, but it does have volunteers.

1505
01:48:35,670 --> 01:48:39,930
Okay. They're mainly on the green belt right now, but the implementation of that.

1506
01:48:40,050 --> 01:48:44,170
And I know that AFAMOR has their own volunteer security as well.

1507
01:48:44,350 --> 01:48:46,250
First, kind of a fruit response person.

1508
01:48:46,250 --> 01:48:52,830
But yes, those are that program, well, it's going to take a volunteer push for auxiliary

1509
01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:53,230
type.

1510
01:48:53,630 --> 01:48:56,430
But it can, it exists in some pockets.

1511
01:48:56,970 --> 01:49:03,270
So enhancing that is a model that we can expand on and then just use other people's contracts

1512
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:06,770
and their SLPs or whatever how it works to make that happen.

1513
01:49:08,450 --> 01:49:09,870
And it's a great program.

1514
01:49:09,870 --> 01:49:13,290
I mean, and he's fantastic, a lot of cities that used it.

1515
01:49:13,570 --> 01:49:17,130
And most people, like I said, Pleasant in where I was,

1516
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:19,290
we had, we go through the parks, and they were in

1517
01:49:19,290 --> 01:49:22,690
squad cars, they were volunteers, but just the side of it,

1518
01:49:23,390 --> 01:49:26,030
people, and hey, dogs got unleashed is very quick.

1519
01:49:26,190 --> 01:49:28,590
And we have community service, people, right now,

1520
01:49:28,710 --> 01:49:31,110
from the Sheriff's Department, and our code enforcement.

1521
01:49:31,290 --> 01:49:31,590
OK.

1522
01:49:31,870 --> 01:49:33,910
They don't have a vehicle with that.

1523
01:49:34,490 --> 01:49:35,870
But they come on service.

1524
01:49:35,890 --> 01:49:36,470
Trust certainly.

1525
01:49:36,690 --> 01:49:37,090
Yeah, exactly.

1526
01:49:37,170 --> 01:49:39,390
Something that we can, so just something I'd like to see

1527
01:49:39,390 --> 01:49:47,470
we put in there that because I think we keep asking our maintenance to do more and more of these items

1528
01:49:47,470 --> 01:49:53,630
that as we're putting this planning and I'd love to see us build out actual strategy on that.

1529
01:49:53,950 --> 01:49:59,270
Yeah, I don't think you're at the point of meeting like a range or like park range or program or anything like that.

1530
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,820
We can implement that.

1531
01:50:02,820 --> 01:50:03,820
That's what the sheriff's department is.

1532
01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:05,280
He's going to have you cheer it.

1533
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:06,880
We'll get you.

1534
01:50:07,900 --> 01:50:08,400
Yeah, sure.

1535
01:50:09,540 --> 01:50:10,840
So I don't want to be on there.

1536
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:12,200
Yeah, sure.

1537
01:50:12,380 --> 01:50:15,900
I don't want to work on that.

1538
01:50:15,940 --> 01:50:16,460
I can point that.

1539
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,620
The Greenbelt and Boise and they have that little mark card.

1540
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:20,080
Yep.

1541
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:21,800
It's like, I don't know.

1542
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:22,940
It's probably not going to be big of a table.

1543
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:24,240
I think those are volunteers.

1544
01:50:24,820 --> 01:50:26,820
Yeah, our people do the Greenbelt too.

1545
01:50:26,820 --> 01:50:35,360
So the sheriff's department, but they have the police department, so we have a huge area to 64 or 5 square miles.

1546
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,600
Not a lot of cities have in a very different.

1547
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,820
I mean, it's the trails we have, the rivers we have in the parks.

1548
01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:45,440
It's a lot of a lot to oversee.

1549
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,880
So I mean, I think our main is to use a phenomenal job.

1550
01:50:49,060 --> 01:50:52,140
There is a pressure, there's a pressure on the staff though right now.

1551
01:50:52,140 --> 01:51:00,560
So we need to really put some package deals here, but this is this is the catalyst to make the analysis of where we're at where we need to go

1552
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,720
So I'm happy with this part of it a lot

1553
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:14,340
Yep copies of everything all the mapping for all is everybody got something of everything right

1554
01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:22,740
if not we can have all this within the it's in the packet 83 six pages whatever was I was

1555
01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:26,000
going to print it out and I said nope I'm going to wait

1556
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:35,340
you have a nobody's going away because I even went to people that are watch you know it

1557
01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:41,460
could be online we can do we got access to facility whatever information needs to go to people

1558
01:51:41,460 --> 01:51:43,340
and we'll get it to everybody, yeah.

1559
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:47,640
Yeah, we are going to take, you know, the next day or two,

1560
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:49,560
so if you have any other comments, please let me know,

1561
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:52,700
to update these and make sure that we are refining

1562
01:51:52,700 --> 01:51:55,420
and reflecting the conversations that we've had with you guys.

1563
01:51:55,900 --> 01:51:58,020
And so the materials that we'll go out to the public

1564
01:51:58,020 --> 01:52:00,500
will be a little bit, they'll be refined and updated.

1565
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:01,460
Yeah, what's we have?

1566
01:52:01,540 --> 01:52:02,540
The whole package that we see in the world?

1567
01:52:02,540 --> 01:52:04,820
The package that went out is, I would say, yeah,

1568
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:06,980
that's, you know, for this meeting only.

1569
01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:16,400
And then we, you know, there will be some changes that we want the public to react to that are, that are reflective of your, of your employees.

1570
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:22,260
I have some feedback on the maps going through those so I can just email and send that.

1571
01:52:22,260 --> 01:52:22,720
Yeah, everything.

1572
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,780
Will it be your assessment of the top five things that came out of this meeting?

1573
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,120
A lot of this meeting.

1574
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:36,360
Um, updates that we're going to update the level of service.

1575
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:46,740
I look to increase that, we're going to have some further discussions about the field space at the school district.

1576
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:53,520
We're going to update the WSS.

1577
01:52:54,620 --> 01:53:01,360
We're going to do a big notification post as well for the next outreach and then.

1578
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:04,400
Is that what you meant by each of us?

1579
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,840
We have getting better participation in the next question.

1580
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:07,880
Yeah, the participation.

1581
01:53:09,340 --> 01:53:09,760
Yep.

1582
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:10,860
Yep.

1583
01:53:10,860 --> 01:53:15,920
The other thing I got was, we need to increase the parking

1584
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:16,360
back.

1585
01:53:17,260 --> 01:53:17,380
Yeah.

1586
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:18,660
Yep.

1587
01:53:18,700 --> 01:53:19,080
Oh, yep.

1588
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:20,560
Thank you.

1589
01:53:20,940 --> 01:53:24,840
Agreement on the Outboard Space of the School's Pathway to Eagle Island State

1590
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,760
Park needs to become a priority.

1591
01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:32,460
That seems to be a good thing.

1592
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:33,940
That's really nice.

1593
01:53:34,180 --> 01:53:34,300
Yeah.

1594
01:53:34,300 --> 01:53:42,960
We're still confused on when you did the community value slide versus the national

1595
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,540
issue of a slide.

1596
01:53:45,500 --> 01:53:53,060
To me, Eagles, community values are not matching the national survey importance.

1597
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:58,380
I didn't see anything and everything represented with Eagle having to do with Howard Ford

1598
01:53:58,380 --> 01:53:59,780
our pickleball.

1599
01:54:01,700 --> 01:54:03,640
You better watch out, Doug.

1600
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:05,480
Yeah.

1601
01:54:05,480 --> 01:54:09,500
The pickleball over here.

1602
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:09,920
Yeah.

1603
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,900
I think you didn't see that.

1604
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,040
140% now.

1605
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,300
You didn't see that.

1606
01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:25,580
That was the physical activity as opposed to, you know, our team sports on basketball or pickleball.

1607
01:54:26,740 --> 01:54:28,780
So, I can get rid of that slide.

1608
01:54:29,440 --> 01:54:29,580
Yeah.

1609
01:54:29,580 --> 01:54:30,700
It was a big compute.

1610
01:54:30,980 --> 01:54:31,000
Yeah.

1611
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:31,200
Okay.

1612
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:35,340
If you've got to explain it to, yeah, it's got to be real user friendly.

1613
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,700
But we did need to get an analysis of what private sectors offering tennis, pickleball,

1614
01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:45,800
indoor basketball, volleyball, and everything is supposed to, what the public is going to

1615
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:51,380
get from the city, you know, because there's a lot of duplication and they're going

1616
01:54:51,380 --> 01:54:57,160
to have to come up with a, I hope you're a member of, you know, something, right?

1617
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,160
You have to be here.

1618
01:54:58,160 --> 01:54:59,960
Yeah, unless you plane it, um, hop.

1619
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:14,360
I'm going to find pickle, which is a long way to go play every day.

1620
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:29,540
I really appreciate your time and our next discussion. We will talk more about priorities, feasibility, implementation, what are going to be the top things that we are going to recommend to implement in the next five years.

1621
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:37,080
So that will be after we have this public outreach and so this is the fire that will be distributed at our parks and

1622
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:45,640
Farmers market facilities as well and then the rest of the notification answers number 14 537 30. It's open house

1623
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:52,960
Kind of drop in come in as you go and then the questionnaire will be open also from September 14th to

1624
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:57,860
October 4th and then we will be taking all of that community input

1625
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:06,060
We're finding what we have and then drafting the plan later this fall and then we'll be

1626
01:56:06,060 --> 01:56:08,140
going back out with the draft plan in January.

1627
01:56:08,740 --> 01:56:10,860
So the Open House should be taking more comments.

1628
01:56:11,500 --> 01:56:11,520
Yep.

1629
01:56:11,940 --> 01:56:12,260
Open House?

1630
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:12,640
Yeah.

1631
01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:17,620
We'll have a lot of interactive boards and exercises that people can comment on.

1632
01:56:18,180 --> 01:56:18,400
No.

1633
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,760
I'm on your flyer on that.

1634
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,960
I guess that's going to be a flyer that's going to go out the Open House.

1635
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,520
at the open house, take the questionnaire.

1636
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:31,960
We've got what you want to do the day, and the time,

1637
01:56:32,620 --> 01:56:36,060
and eagerly elementary, but clear down in the bottom of it

1638
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:37,380
is what it's about.

1639
01:56:37,980 --> 01:56:40,080
I wonder if maybe that might be a little broader

1640
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,860
of what we're trying to do, because they're

1641
01:56:42,860 --> 01:56:44,720
going to get clear down there and say, well, I'm

1642
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:45,640
going to take the questionnaire.

1643
01:56:45,860 --> 01:56:49,180
I'm going to go to the elementary at 5.373.

1644
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,200
Why am I doing this?

1645
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:52,380
And so join us.

1646
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:56,720
that needs to be up and what we really want them to do.

1647
01:56:56,820 --> 01:56:57,760
Your input is needed.

1648
01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:59,060
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1649
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:01,680
Yeah, input on parks like the end.

1650
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,220
So that, you know, a little broader, a little older,

1651
01:57:05,460 --> 01:57:07,820
or something in that so that people get more of that.

1652
01:57:07,820 --> 01:57:11,060
I hope it's shaped the future of parks and recreation.

1653
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:12,540
There's something to that effect.

1654
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,280
So it's compelling for them to want to come.

1655
01:57:17,820 --> 01:57:19,640
Don't let us in charge of making any decisions.

1656
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:25,580
Yeah, you don't want to come to this.

1657
01:57:26,220 --> 01:57:26,720
You don't want to come to this.

1658
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,600
The compliments to you is a very complicated project.

1659
01:57:30,380 --> 01:57:31,700
Yeah, a lot of layers.

1660
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:33,900
I think you're doing a good job.

1661
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:39,640
I think we're going to take out that one spot about the taking over that.

1662
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:40,840
Yeah.

1663
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,160
The Recreation Center.

1664
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:44,980
Color code the highways.

1665
01:57:45,300 --> 01:57:45,800
The state highways.

1666
01:57:46,380 --> 01:57:54,440
All right, well good job on time management, Housekeeping, Housekeeping, like you want to make it a motion to adjourn.

1667
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:55,580
If I can ask one question.

1668
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:56,180
Yes, sure.

1669
01:57:56,740 --> 01:58:01,280
Okay, so I know that someone here talks about ebiics and this has been discussed.

1670
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:05,840
I know you guys are working on an ordinance to have an idea when that's going to come up onto your agenda.

1671
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:06,900
We're going to, we're going to.

1672
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:14,220
So ebiic agenda things coming up, we're working diligently to legal and the shares department.

1673
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,520
It's okay, there's no.

1674
01:58:30,780 --> 01:58:32,860
Yeah, that's where.

1675
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,620
Well, as soon as we got it, it's close.

1676
01:58:36,820 --> 01:58:37,380
It's very close.

1677
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:37,660
Okay.

1678
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,300
I'm not good, like I said, I've put a date out there, but it's closer to seven days.

1679
01:58:42,860 --> 01:58:43,460
That's good.

1680
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:45,520
That's good.

1681
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:45,920
Get in.

1682
01:58:46,020 --> 01:58:47,880
Anybody else want to say anything for I make a motion?

1683
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:49,080
Okay.

1684
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,640
Okay, we have a second.

1685
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:53,400
Any more discussion?

1686
01:58:54,940 --> 01:58:55,800
All players say aye?

1687
01:58:55,860 --> 01:58:56,040
Aye.

1688
01:58:56,500 --> 01:58:56,980
Thank you.

1689
01:58:56,980 --> 01:58:57,540
Thank you, guys.

1690
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:58,180
Meeting each other.

1691
01:58:58,380 --> 01:58:59,540
Thank you.

1692
01:59:00,340 --> 01:59:02,760
I scanned your QR code and shared with the broker.

1693
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:03,420
Okay.