[23:07] for a and opening permit is for a
driveway that is involving current lot
[23:14] 26 and lot 26.02.
Now it's going to be 26.03
[23:20] and 26.02. I find it astonishing that
this is what has to happen because you
[23:26] would think these things would just run
with the lambs, but this is what John
[23:30] has advised DOT is requiring. Um so
that's going to take a while to do. And
[23:35] um Mr. Mattis also has received his
wetlands LOI. So um that's received and
[23:41] I believe that you have a copy of that,
Mr. O'Brien. Is that correct?
[23:45] » Yes.
>> Okay. Um, so and then also the other
[23:48] area of environmental concern was that
they did a tank scan and found a tank
[23:51] that was soil implicated. So that was
cleaned up just with some soil
[23:55] excavation and I believe that's the one
we expect to be closed out first.
[23:58] Although they'll probably both be under
the same NJD closure document. I need to
[24:04] see some more of that paperwork. And
then I think Mr. Mattis also didn't
[24:08] recommend that they've received their
soil erosion and sediment control plan
[24:11] certification as well from the county.
So there's a lot of things that are in
[24:15] place. Yeah, he's received it. He's
received it and he had to drill the
[24:18] wells in order to um to submit the
septic permit
[24:23] » which was new to satisfy.
>> And just so that you know um in order to
[24:27] you know basically save applicants money
um we just usually do an approval by
[24:33] motion and you know it'll be in the
minutes. So you'll get a letter from the
[24:37] board secretary with the board's
decision
[24:41] » with no resolution you mean?
>> Yeah, I won't do we don't do a
[24:44] resolution. That's fine by me.
>> Yeah, it'll be a letter and and um
[24:47] saying that that's just how the board
voted
[24:50] » on it. Okay, great.
>> So,
[24:54] » is anyone does anyone need more
information?
[24:57] » I I just have a question. Um is there
any regulation in terms of limiting the
[25:02] amount of extensions that you're able to
obtain?
[25:05] » I believe there is and you're kind of
reading my mind because I just learned
[25:08] about what's going on with the NJD
stuff. I'm a little concerned that six
[25:12] months might not be quite enough time.
That was the request originally, but I
[25:17] believe Sharon, is it two extensions?
>> Um, we did quite a few for another
[25:22] application.
>> We've done them. Yeah, we've continued
[25:24] to extend, you know, if if you if it's
good reason. And the thing is is that if
[25:29] you're if you're um hampered by an
outside agency approval that's not
[25:33] within your, you know, control. And
that's what happened in the other
[25:38] situation, too. So, um, you know, what
we're doing is basically saying, you
[25:42] know, give yourself a guess and then
come back again if you need another one.
[25:46] » Yeah.
>> Are you comfortable with six months?
[25:49] » I think so. Um,
>> they really want to get it done faster
[25:53] than that. And
>> it
[25:55] » we'll just have to we'll come back.
Maybe if it's left, maybe Craig will
[25:59] come by himself even. But
>> yeah, I I would say go for either six or
[26:04] nine months.
>> How about nine then?
[26:05] » Yeah.
months too at the end of the six months.
[26:09] True. Outside work also.
>> Sure.
[26:12] » And it's just protection. It doesn't
mean that the whole project will slow
[26:16] down.
>> Try to get it done as quickly as
[26:19] possible.
>> Okay. So, um is that okay?
[26:23] » October November. So, that would make it
November.
[26:26] » Wait, what's her extension? Um
>> was request for it for six months.
[26:32] » Yes.
>> So, three months after that.
[26:34] » Um
>> So, what would that date be? February,
[26:37] March, April, May, May, uh, May 26, 27.
Three extra months.
[26:43] » Yeah. March.
[26:47] » So, may I have a motion to approve the
request from J from Craig and Janine
[26:52] Mattis to um extend the time to perfect
the subdivision nine months to March 26,
[26:58] 2027.
>> Sandis and a second from Mr. Kanachi.
[27:04] And can we take a rope off?
[27:12] » Is it you can take a um it's you know
individual vote.
[27:17] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[27:18] » And and you only need seven members
because we're acting as board of
[27:21] adjustments. So I'm not sure where
everybody is on the alternate.
[27:25] » Okay.
So, Emily dead.
[27:29] » Yeah.
[27:36] » I think you need
>> Yes.
[27:40] » Michael McGovern.
>> Yes.
[27:42] » Richie.
>> Yes.
[27:44] » Candace Wigum.
>> Yes.
[27:51] » Matthew.
>> Yes. And then back.
[27:57] » Motion is adopted. Approved.
[28:07] [laughter]
>> Seriously. Excuse
[28:14] me.
[28:22] » Okay.
[28:37] » Yeah. Okay.
[28:51] Okay, last but not least, um we have an
application in front of us from outfront
[28:57] media to modernize an existing sign.
This is just a complete um a um
[29:06] » completeness review. Thank you.
It will be a three-parter. It's the
[29:11] appeal of a zoning officer
following a D1 variance. If that doesn't
[29:15] if they don't succeed in that, does it
sound familiar? And then if they don't
[29:19] succeed in the D1, it will be a D3
variance. The application was originally
[29:25] » It says D3, but is it D2? Okay, my bad.
>> D2.
[29:29] » They asked for a D2 because D3 is
conditional use.
[29:32] » Okay, so D. This would be D2, expansion
of a previously existing, legally
[29:38] existing non-conforming use or the D1.
>> We originally received the application
[29:42] just so people have some context in no
November of 2024. They went quiet. It
[29:48] was deemed incomplete. They went quiet
for a while. Apparently, they were
[29:51] working with an adjacent municipality
that and that was resolved and so
[29:56] they're not now back before us. And Mr.
O'Brien has reviewed and
[30:03] did an updated complete list memo and
I'll let you take it from there. Where
[30:07] are we?
>> Okay. So, the previous comments from the
[30:12] board
were
[30:17] let's see
[30:23] from the January 2nd 25 response from
the board. They had some items they
[30:28] needed to provide new ement and
covenants which they have. The plans now
[30:33] show a rightaway easement to Hunter
County on 514.
[30:39] And then A33 was photographs. They
provided that of the existing building
[30:44] and the property from May 31st of 25.
Existing natural features,
[30:51] wildlife habitats, soil type, prime
farmland. So they have everything except
[30:57] the habitat. So when I looked on the
Jersey [clears throat] Fish and Wildlife
[31:01] landscape project, it shows that there
this property is within rank two special
[31:07] concern. So I think what they would need
to do is just put that on the map on the
[31:11] plan. Note that there is habitat there.
>> Okay.
[31:15] » So that we can do a better review of
that once it comes in for technical.
[31:18] » Okay. Okay. So I mean I would recommend
they
[31:24] we grant them a waiver for completeness
only for that item at this point.
[31:28] » Meaning that
>> before we hear it they need to do that
[31:30] » 10 days before the hearing they should
submit revised plans just with that note
[31:34] on them.
>> Okay.
[31:36] » That there is rank two special concern
habitat on that property.
[31:40] » Yep.
>> Is this the obscure? Is this a red bats?
[31:44] » Yes.
>> Eastern red bat. Right.
[31:46] » We're very
[31:50] Okay.
>> And then P63 was this the location,
[31:54] size, dimensions of the sign. So the
sheet 3 has been pres revised and now
[32:00] shows that information.
>> Okay. But the new submission that they
[32:03] gave us brought up a new completeness
item in that
[32:08] P3 requires the plans to be sealed by a
professional and these are not sealed
[32:17] or actually signed by the professional.
They're labeled as progress prints from
[32:22] Gladstone Design.
>> So again, that would be a waiver for
[32:26] completeness only at this point 10 days
prior to the hearing. submit signed and
[32:30] sealed plans to the board so that can be
satisfy that completeness item. So if
[32:37] the board is agreeable to issue those
waiverss for P3 and P29, they can be
[32:44] deemed complete at the discretion of the
board.
[32:48] » I just have one question. I'm looking
back at the original completeness
[32:53] review. Were there some waiverss that we
agreed that were agreed to before that
[32:57] we need to make sure we're aware of?
>> Um,
[33:01] » I was under the assumption they were
already agreed to, but I mean they are
[33:04] listed.
>> Yeah, I guess you technically they
[33:06] probably were.
>> This was before we were doing
[33:08] completeness reviews. So, apparently
when they got that January 2nd email,
[33:14] the only one
>> the only ones in there were the
[33:17] photographs and so yeah, by definition
and they Okay, fair enough.
[33:20] » Yeah. I don't know if we can you want to
go over them again or jump up to the
[33:24] » They're all in writing here. So,
going to take one second just to look at
[33:30] them again. It's been a minute.
I It has been more recent than November
[33:36] though.
[33:44] The waiver requests um building there is
no building.
[33:50] a lot size net grow. So gross and net
acreage for all existing and proposed
[33:58] lots
um
[34:02] and location of trails. So that's seems
reasonable to
[34:06] » right they all seem reasonable from what
>> okay
[34:17] I'm just gonna
[34:31] Okay, I think we're good. I'm going to
look I'll I will take a quick look at
[34:34] that. If there's anything I feel like we
really need, we can we can at least ask
[34:37] for
>> right hearing. It's been before the
[34:40] hearing. Yeah,
>> it looked reasonable to me when I looked
[34:42] through them.
>> Yeah, it's been a minute. That's all I
[34:45] was uh the only one I'm looking at is
proposed lighting plan. So that was the
[34:49] one I was but I guess that's that goes
to the sign itself. So I think we're
[34:52] good. Okay.
>> Right. I think that'll be more technical
[34:55] when we get there. I mean
>> Okay.
[34:57] » I don't think they have any out up
lights or anything on it, but we'll see
[35:01] when we submit it.
>> Yeah. So really it is um
[35:07] waiverss for checklist item P3 and P29
for for completeness only and they need
[35:12] to get all that into 10 days in advance,
>> right?
[35:16] » Okay.
Anyone else have any questions?
[35:20] No. No. Okay.
May I have a motion to find the
[35:26] application? Hold. Let me hold on a
second. Let me get the name of this
[35:31] » outront Media.
>> Outfront from Outfront Media
[35:34] » LLC
>> LLC.
[35:37] um
>> block 15, lot one with the appeal from a
[35:42] zoning officer and then the D1 or D2. Um
may I have a motion to find the
[35:49] application complete
pending re for for completeness only and
[35:55] then there's the two items they'll need
to give us 10 days in advance. May I
[35:59] have a motion to approve that? That was
>> okay.
[36:05] » Okay. Roll call.
>> Emily Deadweiler.
[36:11] » Yes.
>> Beth Hussein.
[36:12] » Yes.
>> Matthew Kova.
[36:14] » Yes.
>> Lance.
[36:15] » Yes.
>> Mike McGovern.
[36:16] » Yes.
>> Rich Katnac.
[36:19] » Yes.
>> And
[36:21] » yes.
[36:27] » Okay. Motion is adopted.
May I have a motion to
[36:34] » have a question?
>> Go ahead.
[36:38] » Does that mean that I cannot part of the
review of this application?
[36:43] » You are the alternate for that for this.
So you can be
[36:49] » Yeah, you can. You have another
question. Is there another?
[36:53] » Yeah, I guess it
>> I guess my question is it's has an alter
[36:58] in it. How did How did I do that as an
alternate?
[37:01] » You can.
>> I'm a regular member.
[37:06] » Alternate.
>> No, I'm not.
[37:09] » Class class two member.
>> I'm mistaken then. I'm sorry.
[37:12] » No, no, I'm just, you know, I mean, I
wasn't here for the original application
[37:17] when it came in in February. But
>> they haven't made they haven't done
[37:20] their hearing yet.
>> We haven't done it,
[37:22] » right? And I understand that.
>> But I just wanted to clarify because
[37:25] that's
>> Oh, you're a regular member. I I got
[37:27] myself confused then because there were
>> you know we'll resolve that
[37:32] » if there is
still the said yes though so few I could
[37:38] » I'm supposed to be a class two member
[37:42] » I truly could
>> there were so many changes at the
[37:45] beginning and I'm so sorry um but even
if you were an alternate you would be
[37:53] able to participate in the hearing ask
questions it just comes down to fin. But
[37:57] yeah, fair enough. Okay.
[38:02] » Yeah. May I have a motion to adjurnn?
>> Matt, may I have a second? Anybody want
[38:09] to second that motion to adjurnn?
[laughter]
[38:14] » Mr. Mr. Kadanachi. Without objection, we
are adjourned.
[38:17] » May I before we leave, may I just make a
comment?
[38:22] At the last meeting, we talked about uh
about the litigation
[38:28] the brief and and
I had some concerns and my voice.
[38:39] First of all, let me say I'm very very
pleased that to read the brief. Uh it's
[38:46] a it's a great job. The preliminary
statement kind of says it all. it says
[38:52] basically is that
>> let's not read
[38:59] anyway
>> it's a great job
[39:01] » okay
>> there is no I also talked about the
[39:06] people thing I sat down with some of my
younger