[38:42] I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
[38:48] for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[38:53] justice for all.
[39:02] All right, roll call. In advance of
that, I inform everyone. Council
[39:06] President Collins uh did inform that he
would not be in and council person times
[39:11] also had a another engagement and it
notified us in advance. So, just want to
[39:16] make sure that's noted for the record.
Roll call. Blue
[39:21] » here.
>> Schneider here.
[39:23] » Garmin
>> here.
[39:34] Council received minutes for the finance
committee meeting on 83.
[39:39] Any amendments to those minutes?
[39:45] Hearing none, minutes stand is approved.
Council also received minutes of the
[39:49] regular council meeting on 83.
Any amendments?
[39:54] Hearing
[39:59] stand
as
[40:09] I'll take this into public speaks.
[40:38] All right, before we start, just a
reminder for everybody the public
[40:41] speaks, there is a five minute time
limit per speaker.
[40:46] Start at the top. Rodney Stone, 1205
Evening Star Avenue. Would you like to
[40:51] speak, sir?
>> No, sir.
[40:54] » Jeff McCauley, 525 Murray Avenue. Would
you like to speak?
[40:58] » Sure.
>> All right. Do I just speak from right
[41:02] here?
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I've been driving
[41:06] through East Canada about 39 years now.
Never had a ticket. And suddenly in a
[41:11] two weeks time period, I had three
mailed to me. There could be more in my
[41:14] mailbox now. Wasn't very happy about
that. So, I posted it online and much to
[41:21] my surprise, I have about 35,000
responses and counting as of when I
[41:26] pulled in here. Um,
so I did some research on it and it I
[41:34] could be wrong, but it's what I was told
and what I read is that about 40% of
[41:38] that revenue goes to the company that
supplies the cameras. Is that true?
[41:44] » Yes, that's accurate.
>> Okay. which doesn't sound like a very
[41:47] good deal. It sounds like the the
community of Eastan and the pastors
[41:51] through Eastand, they're paying a lot of
money to an outside company, which I
[41:56] would never let anybody negotiate a deal
where somebody gets 40% of my revenue,
[42:00] but but that's me. Um, so in doing so,
people have been reaching out to me. In
[42:05] fact, on the way here, some people out
of Cincinnati,
[42:08] I I just got in contact with him. I had
to hang up to to come in here something
[42:12] about Scott Sloan or Sloan's law or
whatever have offered to help uh fight
[42:18] this I guess. Um so I was going to bring
that to your attention. Recommended
[42:22] [clears throat]
maps to distribute to show people how to
[42:26] avoid East Canton petitions to the
businesses to let them know that they're
[42:31] not going to be patrons of the business
as long as those cameras are in play.
[42:34] and then a strategy to have the
officials that are in here now voted out
[42:39] next election to make, you know, if they
don't make a change for the camera. And
[42:43] I thought about it and I do have the the
time and the resources to do it. So, I
[42:48] am going to commit to that. But I wanted
to bring it to your attention. I mean,
[42:52] 39 years is a long time to go without a
ticket and all of a sudden I have at
[42:56] least three for $175 for going 46.
46 is not an unsafe speed, especially on
[43:03] a stretch of road that 10 feet further
is 55 miles per hour. I definitely plan
[43:09] on fighting that myself. And now that
everybody else has reached out to me,
[43:12] I'm I'm going to talk to Scott Sloan and
their people and basically anybody else
[43:17] who wants to get involved because that
is that's just not fair. That's not
[43:21] safety. That's not the interest of
public safety. That's a cash grab is
[43:25] what that is. So that's what I have to
say.
[43:34] Very good.
Tony and Carlos Scott.
[43:40] Um I'm just coming to here today to
number one um
[43:46] ask a question in regards to the whole
thing about the u cameras and and the
[43:52] speeding. Um certainly I understand you
want safety in your communities and if
[43:58] the speed limit says 35 and I was going
46 or 47 then in fact I was speeding.
[44:05] That's obvious. Um I did realize that
and I don't travel through East Can a
[44:11] lot because I live over in Freeberg so I
kind of go different ways different
[44:16] times but I like to come through East
Cam just to see what's kind of going on.
[44:20] Uh, I think with the cameras, uh, it it
it takes away the ability
[44:28] of a real person to pull you over, pull
up your driving record and see what kind
[44:34] of person they're dealing with. Uh, I
haven't had a speeding ticket for years.
[44:40] And, uh, I was surprised when I got this
in the mail. I went down and I saw where
[44:44] where I came through. It was 35. I'm
sure I was within the speed limit. And
[44:49] as I gradually out town, I hardly pay
any attention to the signs because I
[44:53] don't speed. Uh on the interstate, I'll
put it on cruise control. Wherever I
[44:58] can, I put on cruise control because the
last thing I want to do is pay for a
[45:01] speeding ticket. So again, I'm not here
to u badger you. I'm not here to uh
[45:09] question uh this issue. The thing that I
I thing that I would like to know is at
[45:15] least have a opportunity to say, "Look,
I wasn't aware of these. I'm sure you
[45:20] see a sign that says after I went back
and and looked, I saw the sign." But
[45:25] there's signs all the way around and if
I'm a law-abiding citizen, as long as
[45:29] I'm staying within the proper range of
so, I'm not paying much attention to
[45:32] that. So, I, you know, I'm not on
Facebook. My wife is, I've heard a
[45:37] little bit of this or that. I'm not
coming in here to put any pressure on
[45:40] anybody. I just would like to have a at
least some common sense. Say, look, you
[45:44] came through here. I was going too fast.
Here's a friendly warning and you're and
[45:50] you're good to go. $175 is a lot of
money for a for something that you know,
[45:55] you just weren't completely aware of.
But again, I'm not saying that I wasn't
[46:00] speeding if the speed limit was that.
But again, from 35 to [clears throat]
[46:04] just a short amount of time, it becomes
55.
[46:08] There's a there's some grace period in
there that I think somebody could, you
[46:11] know, with common sense could see. So
that's all I'm saying.
[46:15] [clears throat and cough]
[46:21] » Miss Scott, would you add anything?
>> Well, we actually got two speeding
[46:26] tickets. We contested it and sent the
first one wherever we were supposed to
[46:30] send it, but we got two duplicates. Same
time stamp, which kind of to me set up
[46:36] red flags. My son called out the police
department to make sure this was even
[46:40] legitimate because why two same time
stamp doesn't make sense.
[46:45] » Yeah, we we noticed that that that the
processor had duplicated um particular
[46:52] day I believe uh that there were
duplicates sent out. Yeah, you are
[46:57] correct in that.
>> Well, and and I feel the same way that
[47:00] my husband and the gentleman behind me,
this seems like a speed trap. Um because
[47:05] I got a ticket, my neighbor got a
ticket, her husband got a ticket,
[47:09] they're all $175 and we're all going the
same speed, 47 miles per hour.
[47:15] » And then I got online and I seen
everybody's complaining about the same
[47:19] thing and it's like are these do we even
trust like when these were calibrated
[47:25] and who's checking it and is this
correct? I mean, it just seems fishy
[47:29] that all three of us and you look
online, everybody's going 47 and then we
[47:35] all got $175 speeding tickets. And I
personally always come through East
[47:40] Canton when I'm coming home because I go
77. I like to stop at Green Farms. I
[47:45] like to get my gas not down there on the
corner and all that mess. I come up
[47:49] through here. I like to come to the
library with my grandson. And I'm going
[47:53] to do everything possible to avoid these
can. So is my neighbor. We're like,
[47:57] we're not even going through there
because we're all mad. And that's all I
[48:01] have to say.
[48:10] » This is 24953 Canal Street.
>> Uh yes. Um first of all, I'd like to say
[48:18] I agree with everything that the members
of the public have said before me
[48:21] tonight. Um and then I would like to
begin by saying uh the fifth and sixth
[48:26] amendments of the constitution typically
apply to criminal matters and typically
[48:32] historically when you are pulled over by
a human police officer for a speeding
[48:36] ticket that is a criminal offense. So
you have you maintain your right to due
[48:40] process the right to as people say face
your accuser have the witnesses of the
[48:45] crime brought before you. But now
suddenly when a traffic camera issues a
[48:51] civil citation for the same supposed
crime of speeding,
[48:56] you supposedly lose your constitutional
right to those things. Um, there have
[49:00] been courts and judges that have seen
through that paper thin tactic and said
[49:06] that those things do still apply in some
civil cases and I feel that they would
[49:10] and I also agree with what has been said
that this is basically what you would
[49:14] call colloquially a speed trap and that
it is a cash grab and that you guys
[49:19] issue 10,000 citations approximately
according to the last meeting that I
[49:23] attended you know two weeks ago which if
you do that at $175 minimum per ticket
[49:28] times 10,000 is 1.75 million, which to
my understanding before you take out the
[49:33] 40% that goes to traffic and logistics
or whatever the bogus company's name is
[49:39] that owns these cameras takes their 40%
cut. That's like what you guys bring in
[49:43] an entire year in tax property taxes if
I understand correctly or close to it.
[49:47] You know, I'm my numbers might be a
little bit off because I don't live in
[49:50] East. I wouldn't even be here for these cameras. Thank you.
[49:57] Okay, that will conclude public speaks
takes us into committee reports service.
[50:05] [clears throat]
[50:09] » Okay. Under parks, uh remove the we
remove the old playground equipment at
[50:13] the park.
>> New playground equipment has been
[50:16] installed.
>> We will need to do some uh ground work
[50:20] around the new equipment. Um, this have
to be done after the ground starts to
[50:24] dry up. [clears throat]
Talk with softball. I believe Mrs.
[50:27] Heimmes asked me about this. Talk with
softball. They do have fall ball
[50:32] practices at that lower field. Uh, but
the [snorts] games will be played in a
[50:35] different venue. I also reached out to
baseball. They sent me a schedule. I'll
[50:39] review that, but it should not conflict
uh anything to do with our market on the
[50:44] Sundays.
Under roads, we trim trees on several
[50:48] alleys. uh install 35 mph sign of NASA
west catch basin repair at Wood and
[50:54] Orchard. Again, the state paving project
is close to being completed in town. Uh
[50:59] I spoke with the head of the project.
All cut down areas have been marked in
[51:03] white paint. Um uses the service
department have located a couple spots
[51:08] that were not marked in white paint that
we feel needed attention. I did reach
[51:12] out to them. So there is no date for
this to take place. Uh, I'll just
[51:16] continue to keep communication with the
project manager till the project's
[51:20] complete. Uh, under service, we worked
on the pedals of the skid steer. They
[51:24] were sticking. We've tried to repair
them. We'll hope it works, but if not,
[51:29] we might have to look into getting new
pedals for it.
[51:33] Um,
[51:37] under zoning, I wrote one zoning
violation.
[51:41] Um, under other, they attended the CUV
salt meeting. We'll be ordering salt
[51:47] next month, I believe, is the early
order. Um, we had a power outage in town
[51:52] yesterday. Both generators at the pump
house and the tower came on and all
[51:56] things flow without any issues. Out of
the four traffic lights in town
[52:02] with battery backups, one did not come
on. We put temporary stop signs up at
[52:07] each side of the intersection. And I
will be looking into why this took place
[52:10] at that intersection.
>> Aren't [clears throat] those all new
[52:12] batteries, too?
>> No, there
[52:14] » there's one of them that there's one of
them that the battery uh backup systems
[52:19] bad and traffic and controls were
supposed to get us a quote on it. We
[52:23] never did get that. We determined that
earlier this year in the springtime. It
[52:27] was the one at uh 172 and
>> 44 is the one that did not come on. But
[52:32] I'll be looking into it to why it did
come on and and probably getting
[52:36] somebody out here to look at that. Try
to get that quote done. I don't know any
[52:39] requested that [clears throat] I'll look
>> probably tell you go back look the last
[52:44] invoice we paid with them right then.
Any other question?
[52:52] » I do not.
>> Yeah. All the way from like Belvore to
[52:54] Trump I didn't hear anything.
um that one touch base we talked about
[52:59] last meeting. So that one is not marked.
>> No, that was one of the ones. And then
[53:03] there's also the north side of Nassau
Plum intersection. There's a man sewer
[53:08] manhole there. They didn't have
[clears throat] that one marked. I
[53:10] believe I
>> marked that one like
[53:15] » that one.
>> Yeah, the catch basin. [clears throat]
[53:18] Yes. But there is a sewer lid there
that's not marked. I think it needs it
[53:21] because it's pretty bad. Okay.
>> So it was the one down here at Walnut.
[53:24] » The catch basin. and the sewer lid, but
the sewer lids they they draw around it,
[53:30] but not that. So, that was one of them,
the catch face, and then the other one
[53:33] was the sewer lid at plum. So, those
were the two that we addressed. I just
[53:39] don't have a date on when they're going
to come back through town and do all
[53:42] these. They've marked them all. So,
>> I don't know if you marked them or
[53:47] » they actually went through and did it
theirelves
[53:50] at night time. It was like 8:00 at night
or something. And then he when I
[53:54] communicated with him, he uh he had
asked me to go through and check and
[53:57] make sure there's anything that and I
when I did those were two of the spots
[53:59] that I did mention to him. Okay.
If there's anything else anybody sees,
[54:05] just let me know. But I we drove around
and looked two of the ones that I'm
[54:12] questions or concerns.
We are still working on street sweeps.
[54:18] It's It's steer only moves so fast. You
can't move it fast with it. It is a slow
[54:23] process,
>> but it works good. When it does, it
[54:26] works. It does a good job.
>> Does it pick up or does it move to the
[54:29] side?
>> No. So, we have a curb brush that goes
[54:32] along the curb and pushes in front and
then the broom actually pushes it into
[54:35] the bucket
>> and then we take it and dump it.
[54:37] » You didn't
already.
[54:40] » No.
Like I said, there's a reoccurring
[54:44] issues of putting in the people's
driveways and wash back out. We just
[54:47] haven't put it back in people's
travelers. So, just been properly
[54:50] disposing that.
>> Well, have we ever gone around and done
[54:54] that before?
>> Yeah, we actually did uh several years
[54:57] ago, we did a whole town one. And then
when we had the creek cleaned at noble
[55:04] street
>> y
[55:05] » creek. There was a muddy mess. So, we
actually did that whole area there. We
[55:08] rented one ourselves and did it. That
was years ago, too. But whole town wise
[55:12] know, it's been a long time since we had
somebody come in. It's just built up.
[55:17] This is going to take longer. The first
time
[55:19] » it is. And then like I said, with these
rains we've been having, it's just
[55:21] crazy. It just everything just keeps
washing down the road. There's several
[55:24] spots where the roads washed out, too.
We know one's on Willow by Mr. Bachman.
[55:29] And there's another one down by Mr.
Blue's house. So, some of these roads
[55:33] are starting to wash out a little bit.
We just got to get hot.
[55:42] » Good. Thanks, guys.
takes us to
[55:49] safety. Chief is not in tonight. Officer
Wiser is here. They previously sent a
[55:55] report.
>> We had two [clears throat] uh late
[55:59] incomers. Do they need to sign in or
>> Yeah,
[56:14] um
so I you [clears throat] all got this at
[56:19] » obviously I I've only watched how this
is done, so I'm going to do my best. Um,
[56:25] for our call types, we had 120 security
checks, 94 extra patrols, 78 traffic
[56:32] stops, uh, 10 assist other agencies,
seven follow-ups, four domestic
[56:37] violence, four 911 hang-ups, and 29
other calls for service. Um, that was a
[56:43] total of 346 calls logged from August
3rd to August 17th. Um, it averaged it
[56:51] did a daily average of 23 calls per day.
[music]
[56:56] Sorry.
[57:03] Um, that's all I have for stats.
Um, we had a very successful National
[57:09] Night Out, probably um, one of the best
events that we've done thus far and we
[57:14] do plan to continue that um, every year,
make it better. There was a lot of
[57:18] participation with the fire department
township and um a lot of local
[57:25] businesses were very supportive in that
as well. Um and we we want to continue
[57:30] our second annual trunk or treat this
year also. Um we do plan to also get
[57:36] businesses involved in that as well.
Kind of like the same aspect of what we
[57:40] did for National Night Out.
[57:44] » That's it. Good.
>> Thank you. Thank you s
[57:55] would you mind bring me that?
Thank you.
[58:00] Before we jump into judicial we will
allow the
[58:10] Okay.
Is it Rhonda? Rhonda Briggs.
[58:15] » Yes. [clears throat] address 121 Delore
Drive Northeast.
[58:19] » Yeah,
>> this breaks floor is yours.
[58:22] » Okay. I am here about the speed cameras.
>> Okay. Personally, my own opinion, I
[58:27] think in ways they're not a bad thing. I
personally prefer what they have over on
[58:32] one street where it warns you you're
slowing down or speed up or whatever. To
[58:37] me, that's a better option that's more
friendly to the community. the speed
[58:43] cameras in the right places. I
understand, but you explain to me the
[58:50] one going out of East Canton toward
Lewisville.
[58:54] Okay. To me, that is technically I've
checked into it. You know, I have done
[58:59] my research, but technically it's not a
speed track, but it is. It is intent.
[59:06] The intent of the camera that is
pointing north on 144. The only purpose
[59:12] of that camera is to trap people like
myself, which I am a law-abiding
[59:18] citizen. I haven't had a speed ticket
since
[59:22] uh I don't remember what year, but it's
been about 35 years. Okay? And I do
[59:26] respect the speeds in town. I respect
that. It should be that way. Okay?
[59:30] There's kids, there's cars coming out. I
understand that. But going out of town,
[59:35] Route 44, the day that they caught me, I
don't go that way very often, but when I
[59:40] do, I had to backtrack. I check my GPS
to see where I was and why I was there.
[59:45] And I realized what I did. And what they
did when there's 35 mph speed sign right
[59:51] here and not even 100 feet, we're going
to measure. We're going to absolutely
[59:56] measure that to make sure, but a very
short distance, it says 55 miles an
[1:00:00] hour. So, you're catching me after I'm
after the 35 mph limit. Between that and
[1:00:08] the 55 and yeah, I started accelerating.
I think a lot of people don't realize
[1:00:12] you cannot accelerate until you get to
that 55 limit. I didn't realize that and
[1:00:17] I've been driving since I was 16. Okay.
I did not realize that. So, the intent
[1:00:23] of that camera was not to stop speeders
in East Canton. The intent of that
[1:00:29] camera is specifically to see how many
people they can nail like me. $175.
[1:00:37] I'm sorry, but I'm on a fixed income.
That is not affordable. How many
[1:00:42] families that cannot afford it are
getting hit with $175 because they
[1:00:47] didn't realize. But the intent of that
camera is not to slow down speed coming
[1:00:51] into East Canton. It's to see how many
people they can get going out. And that
[1:00:55] is wrong. That is wrong. the other one
coming in. If I was coming into town and
[1:01:00] I come to that 35 and I'm going faster
than where I should be, fine.
[1:01:04] [clears throat] But when I'm going out
of town, you're not protecting the town.
[1:01:09] You're nailing people that money. That
is wrong. So, I will fight it. I will do
[1:01:15] everything that I can. I have talked to
a lawyer. If I have to go to court,
[1:01:19] whatever I have to do, but it is wrong.
And tell you one thing, too. If they
[1:01:23] don't stop that, if they don't get rid
of that camera going north, that is
[1:01:26] nothing but a speed trap. Even though
legally it's not. Okay. But the intent
[1:01:33] of it is to get people just like myself.
It's not to protect coming into town. It
[1:01:39] the intent is to nail people. I saw on
Facebook, okay, people that said, "I got
[1:01:45] five tickets in one week." I was waiting
for another ticket because I thought,
[1:01:49] what if, you know, cuz if if a live
police officer would have stopped me
[1:01:53] that day and said, "Do you realize you
were going 40?" I was going one mile
[1:01:58] faster than what they allow. They allow
the 10 miles. Okay, I went one mile
[1:02:02] faster than that. So, if she would have
stopped me and told me that and gave me
[1:02:07] a ticket, I could have accepted that.
But at least I'd have known then the
[1:02:12] next day if I come through, watch
myself. You cannot accelerate till you
[1:02:16] hit the 55. But how many people come
through the one day like I did? What if
[1:02:21] I'd have come through every day like
going to work or something? What if I
[1:02:25] had got five or six tickets? Are you
going to tell me that I'm going to get
[1:02:28] five or six $175 tickets and you're
going to expect me to pay that? They can
[1:02:34] sit me in jail for a while. I have
nothing better to do. But that is wrong.
[1:02:39] » Just so I understand what you're saying,
ma'am. You're saying that people are
[1:02:43] receiving
tickets from the same camera.
[1:02:47] » Yes.
>> Five times in a week.
[1:02:49] » From the same.
>> That's what I heard. Yes.
[1:02:51] » From the same camera.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:52] » Okay.
>> And stop and think. If I was going to
[1:02:54] work every day and if I was going that
way and I didn't realize, okay, when you
[1:02:58] come to the 35 and then you see 55 right
in front of you
[1:03:02] » and they said, we need I've got a long
tape measure. We need to measure that.
[1:03:05] I've been out there looking at it. But
in that distance right there, they got
[1:03:10] me going one mile faster than what the
allowed amount was. But I said, I didn't
[1:03:15] realize you're not allowed to accelerate
till you get to the 55. That is a trap.
[1:03:21] Technically, I've checked into it.
Technically, a trap is something that is
[1:03:25] set up in a way that causes someone to
intentionally do something wrong.
[1:03:31] Okay. So, that's not technically,
[snorts] but if you look at the intent
[1:03:36] of it, that intent is not to protect
East Canton Village from people
[1:03:42] speeding. I'm going out of town. So, if
I hit 55 in a minute, that's not
[1:03:48] protecting East Canton Village. That is
nailing people for $175 just cuz you
[1:03:53] guys want to line your pockets. So, they
either get rid of that camera going
[1:03:57] north, do something about it, or come
voting time, guess who's not going to be
[1:04:01] voting for anyone in this room, okay? If
they ask for a police levy, why should I
[1:04:07] pass that one? You're going to hit me
with $175 for doing something stupid
[1:04:11] like that, that is intent and it's
wrong. So, how many families have three
[1:04:16] or four or five kids and they go up
through there and they get $175 ticket
[1:04:21] and they don't realize you're not
allowed to accelerate at all to hit 55?
[1:04:26] And what if they go the next day? What
are you going to do? Charge them $175
[1:04:30] for every time that they went through
there?
[1:04:32] » No. That's why one time, like I said,
that's why I asked the question. I'm
[1:04:36] going to look into it. Um because you
know we we had a program in place where
[1:04:43] to prevent that uh essentially but we
will look into that.
[1:04:47] » Prevent what?
>> Prevent somebody from getting uh five
[1:04:51] tickets from one camera within a week.
>> Okay.
[1:04:53] » Uh so I will look into it. I appreciate
you bringing that forward.
[1:04:58] » Okay. And
>> but even at that to me the point even my
[1:05:02] ticket I will fight it all the way
because technically if you want to go by
[1:05:08] the law by the word by word technically
it's not a trap but what is the intent
[1:05:14] of that camera? The intent is not to
stop people from speeding in East Canton
[1:05:19] because I'm leaving town.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:21] » The intent was to nail me for $175
freaking dollars I can't afford. And
[1:05:26] it's wrong. Period.
[1:05:32] Richard Briggs, same address, 121 Del
War Drive.
[1:05:35] » Yes.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:05:38] » You guys aren't a court of law. You're
simply a village council
[1:05:43] and you have the ability to make laws,
make regulations,
[1:05:49] and to uh ask for enforcement.
when she goes to court and we talk to
[1:05:57] the judicial system on appeal,
they said, "We're so backed up, it might
[1:06:02] take a year for your case to be heard."
That didn't come from us. That came from
[1:06:09] the court. [laughter]
So, just so you know, there not a lot of
[1:06:14] goodwill going on with those cameras.
Here's what's going to happen.
[1:06:19] You're not going to pass another police
levy as long as those cameras are up.
[1:06:25] None of you who want to get reelected
and supported that camera, you're all
[1:06:32] going to be out of office.
So,
[1:06:36] that's just the way it is. Now, I've
done a little checking on law.
[1:06:43] And the speed cameras, they come from a
company out of state, right?
[1:06:49] » Mhm. [clears throat]
[1:06:52] » Am I correct?
>> Are you talking about the manufacturers?
[1:06:56] » Uh, the manufacturer and the people that
issue the tickets and the people that
[1:07:01] read the tickets. They're not from Ohio,
are they?
[1:07:04] » The officer that reviews the tickets is
an East Canon police officer. processor
[1:07:09] is um [snorts]
>> yes out of state. Yes.
[1:07:12] » Okay. So, what I'm about to say
[clears throat] is that there is an eth
[1:07:19] amendment to the constitution
that says cruel and unusual punishment
[1:07:26] is prohibited. That's in the eth
amendment.
[1:07:30] And that applies because this is an
outofstate company that is administering
[1:07:38] the money that kicks back to you guys.
In the Ohio state constitution,
[1:07:44] the ninth amendment
duplicates the eth amendment for the US
[1:07:49] Constitution where the Ohio Constitution
says you can't have cruel and unusual
[1:07:55] punishment.
[1:07:59] You don't have to be a lawyer to stand
in front of a judge and say this is
[1:08:04] cruel and unusual punishment. And if the
judge agrees,
[1:08:09] those cameras are gone.
Okay. So, I'm just saying this as a word
[1:08:15] of warning. Well, that sounds like a
threat. So, a word of advice. the
[1:08:20] cameras go down or police levies go down
and your political futures go down with
[1:08:27] it, it's your call. I don't have a
ticket, so I'm in good shape.
[1:08:34] Surprisingly, because he drives faster
than I do, so it's like I'm really
[1:08:39] careful. And when I got that ticket, I
was floored. He told me it was in the
[1:08:43] mail. I thought he was joking. I said,
"You got to be kidding me." I He knows
[1:08:47] how careful I am about speed. And then
they get me for $175. He's talking about
[1:08:52] cruel and unusual punishment. That is a
lot of money.
[1:08:57] In my book, it is.
>> I've never had a speeding ticket, but I
[1:09:01] got two warnings in the month of July.
One of my only warnings.
[1:09:04] » I never got a warning.
>> Yeah. If you don't go that way a lot,
[1:09:06] you wouldn't. I drive through East Camp
now. But
[1:09:10] » so anyway, not to digress because you
guys got important stuff you have to do
[1:09:14] because you're the council. If you have
any questions for me, say so. If not,
[1:09:19] I'll shut up and sit down.
>> Appreciate your time, sir. Thank you.
[1:09:27] » Get back on track to the agenda. uh
takes us into judicial
[1:09:33] » or [clears throat] ordinance 2026-15,
an ordinance to authorize the village of
[1:09:39] East Camp fiscal officer to make the
following interfund transfer between the
[1:09:44] general fund fund number 1000-910-910
and the police operating fund fund
[1:09:50] number 2904-931-0000
[1:09:56] and to declare an emergency via It
hereby ordained by the council of the
[1:10:00] village of East Canton that the village
of East Canton authorizes the fiscal
[1:10:05] officer to perform the following
interfund transfer. General fund to
[1:10:10] police operating fund transfer. decrease
the general fund transfers out fund
[1:10:15] number 1000-910-910-0000
[1:10:20] by $50,000 and increase the police
operating fund fund number 2904-931-0000
[1:10:29] by $50,000 effective81026
that the village of East Canton fiscal
[1:10:36] officer shall certify the increased
appropriations to the Stark County
[1:10:40] auditor and shall do all things
reasonable and necessary to accomplish
[1:10:44] this to accomplish the purposes of this
ordinance. Be it further ordained, it is
[1:10:49] hereby found and determined that all
formal actions of this council
[1:10:53] concerning and relating to the passage
of this ordinance were taken in an open
[1:10:56] meeting of this council and that all
deliberations of this council and of any
[1:11:02] of its committees that resulted in such
formal action were meetings open to the
[1:11:06] public and in compliance with the law.
Be it further ordained that this
[1:11:10] ordinance is hereby declared to be an
emergency measure necessary for the
[1:11:13] immediate preservation of the public
peace, health, safety, convenience, and
[1:11:17] welfare of the village of East Canton
and shall be in full force in effect
[1:11:21] from and after its passage and at the
earliest date allowable by law.
[1:11:30] Someone
[1:11:37] » call blue.
>> Yay.
[1:11:39] » Schneider.
>> Yay.
[1:11:40] » Carmen.
[1:11:45] » Motion to suspend the rules.
Second.
[1:11:53] » Roll call. Blue.
>> Yay.
[1:11:54] » Snider.
>> Yay.
[1:11:55] » Carmen. Yay. Yeah,
>> we need three quarters to suspend the
[1:11:59] rules. We don't have
>> ah okay.
[1:12:17] » Anything else for judicial?
[1:12:26] takes us into grants. Anything for
grants?
[1:12:29] » Um, [clears throat] as Miss Riggs said
at the last meeting,
[1:12:35] traditionally we should be hearing
something from uh the uh congressionally
[1:12:42] directed spending folks either this
month or next month. as far as uh
[1:12:49] as far as what would been approved. Um
I've been watching the news and seeing
[1:12:55] what's going on in Congress and there's
a lot of infighting there. So I thought
[1:13:00] I'd just take a look and see how how
dedicated these guys are getting
[1:13:06] business done. as of uh
July 31st,
[1:13:14] that is 212 calendar days from January
1st.
[1:13:19] The House was in session for 107 of
those days and out for 105 days.
[1:13:29] The Senate was in session 115 days
and was out
[1:13:37] 97
days.
[1:13:41] So to me, it suggests that they're not
really
[1:13:46] getting getting the job done. So it's my
personal belief we probably won't be
[1:13:51] hearing anything from them till after
the first of the year.
[1:13:56] I hope I'm wrong. I'd really like to get
on with this waterline project, but at
[1:14:00] the same time can't rush the wheels of
progress. In the interim, I'm going to
[1:14:07] contact
um Representative Kishman and Senator
[1:14:12] Timkin of the state house and see if
they can provide some state money for
[1:14:18] our match. Uh anything they can provide
will certainly be a benefit. So, that's
[1:14:25] all I have. Anything
else for grants?
[1:14:30] » No, sir.
>> Send of finance.
[1:14:36] » Make a motion to approve invoices in the
amount of $46,66622
[1:14:43] as presented by fiscal officer dice.
[1:14:48] Second.
[1:14:55] Roll call. Blue. [clears throat]
>> Carmen.
[1:14:59] » Hamst.
[1:15:05] » Make a motion to approve payroll from
626, excuse me, 72626 to 88.26 in the
[1:15:14] amount of $27,477
[1:15:19] as presented by this foster guys. Second
[1:15:28] roll call
[1:15:36] » and then
I make a third motion to
[1:15:41] approve the July 2026 bank
reconciliation as presented by fiscal
[1:15:47] officer Dice.
Just that one. Second.
[1:15:52] » [snorts]
[1:15:59] » Roll call.
>> Blue.
[1:16:00] » Yes.
>> Snider.
[1:16:02] » Yay.
>> Garmin.
[1:16:10] » This officer guys noted the permanent
appropriations report through 819 is in
[1:16:15] the meeting packet.
>> Anything else for finance?
[1:16:23] takes us into other.
[1:16:28] I had sent a email um just
forformational purposes that this will
[1:16:34] be brought forward regarding
setting the trick-or- treat dates for
[1:16:39] this year.
Um
[1:16:42] traditionally we do the last Sunday in
October
[1:16:47] from 3:00 to 5:00. this year. However,
we do have an opportunity to do
[1:16:51] something a little different that I
think the kids may like. Uh Halloween
[1:16:56] actually falls on a Saturday this year,
um October 31st.
[1:17:01] Um being that it's a Saturday and it's
Halloween, I wanted to see if council
[1:17:06] would be open to changing the trick-or-
treat times from 3:00 to 5:00 to 6:00 to
[1:17:11] 8 and have it on that Saturday.
>> I don't have any objection. It'd be kind
[1:17:18] of nice to see spooks at night.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:22] » I like that. But I think we need PD
coverage when kids are walking around.
[1:17:27] » So the PD was going to ask for trunk or
treat uh availability up at the park to
[1:17:33] overlap that a little bit. I believe you
what did what four to six?
[1:17:36] » Yeah. So if we did six if we did six to
eight for trickor treat, we wanted to do
[1:17:40] five to seven to overlap that.
>> You still going to have people on the
[1:17:43] road though?
>> Yeah. We're going to have officers out.
[1:17:46] There will be officers taking calls and
then we'll probably have officers
[1:17:49] driving around passing out candy too
like on the in the neighborhood
[1:17:52] » especially because it's getting dark.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
[1:17:56] » I just wonder is everyone so used to
that kind of general rule
[1:18:02] » feel like there's people that aren't
going to get they're not going to see
[1:18:04] the message or they're not going to so
how would we there's something we can do
[1:18:08] more to let people know of a change like
[clears throat]
[1:18:13] pretty big change.
>> Yeah, it is. It is and it
[1:18:16] » it's boring, but I just
>> Yeah, I'm bored, but I just like
[1:18:20] probably singing people, you know, can't
people whatever showing up on Sunday and
[1:18:25] being like, "Oh, what the heck?"
>> Usually the repository posts the the
[1:18:29] times, so we could inform the
repository. Uh, and then we could also
[1:18:33] make sure we're posting on the front
door here, village website, social
[1:18:37] media.
>> Let us put it on the
[1:18:40] » Yeah, I'm sure they would.
>> We can. Yeah, we can do it on our
[1:18:44] Facebook and like try to get it out as
much as we can. And I also am doing
[1:18:48] flyers for the trunk or treat so I can I
can put something on there,
[1:18:53] » you know, get it because we go around to
the township.
[1:19:00] » I just think it'd be important to make
it as visible
[1:19:02] » as possible. So does show up. There's
like
[1:19:09] » plenty of time. Yeah.
[1:19:13] » Right.
>> Not too many people do it,
[1:19:15] » right? Not anymore. Right. Yeah. Figured
Saturday wouldn't be that impact the
[1:19:20] families that much. I don't think you
know.
[1:19:23] » Yeah.
[1:19:27] » Yeah.
>> Just as long as we have police res. Y
[1:19:36] people on over
[1:19:43] » anything else for other
[1:19:50] [clears throat and cough]
[1:19:56] motion to
>> You just made a motion.
[1:20:00] [laughter]
Sorry, I couldn't hear
[1:20:02] » a little slow there even.
>> So you second motion to just want to
[1:20:07] confirm you second.
>> Okay. Roll call. Blue.
[1:20:11] » Yay.
>> Schneider.
[1:20:12] » Yay. Carmen says yes.