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Okay, welcome everyone. I want to call
the uh East Dundee regular board meeting

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August 17th, 2026 to order. Roll call,
please.

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» Trusty Oakland is absent. Trusty Guma
>> here.

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» Trusty Solder
>> here.

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» Trusty Saviano
>> here.

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» Trusty Kunzie
>> present.

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» Trusty Mahoney is absent. And President
Pearson

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» here. To the pledge of allegiance.

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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> All right. Do we have anyone for public

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comment?

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All right. There not being anything, we
don't have a public hearing, do we?

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» We do not.
>> We do not. And then uh I will entertain

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a motion for uh the consent agenda.
>> And I wanted to pull item D out.

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» Pull D out. Okay.
Okay. I will move to approve a regular V

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village board meeting minutes dated
August 3rd, 2026. I will also move to

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accept the warrants list in the amount
of $211,286.54.

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I will move to approve a resolution
accepting a documentary film proposal

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from David A. Hudson and approving
professional services agreement for the

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creation of a featurelength film
documentary in the amount not to exceed

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$24,100.
Uh I will move to approve a resolution

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accepting a proposal from Bbach and Aean
LLP for professional auditing services.

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And I will move to approve a resolution
approving the minutes of certain closed

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minutes meetings of the village board.
>> Any discussion? We get a second.

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» Get a second.
>> I will second that.

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» Any discussion?
>> No. All right.

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» Roll.
>> Trusty Guma.

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» Yes.
>> Trusty Solder.

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» Yes.
>> Trusty Saviano.

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» Yes.
>> Trusty Kunzie.

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» Yes.
And that takes us to agenda items A. Oh,

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I'm sorry. We got to go back to D.
>> I'll make a motion to approve a

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resolution approving a donation and
license agreement with Mary Kay. Harvey

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and family for the loan and display of
the Embrace the Earth with wisdom art

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sculpture at the depot park.
>> Second.

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» Okay.
>> And then just uh wanted to put on the

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record a thank you to Mary Kay. Harvey.
puts tons of work into volunteering and

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putting on art events and donating
artwork. So, just wanted to throw an

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official thank you to her on there.
second.

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» And and then as a side note, uh since we
have a few other artists we're talking

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to that would like to see their artwork
show up and donate into the community on

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the Fox River or other places, um just
like shoring up some of the language

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because it's uh it mentions three
different things in the title of a

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donation, a license agreement, and a
loan. And it's kind of one of the three.

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I think this is a donation, but we just
want to clean up because we could

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sometimes have a licensed artwork
agreement where they own it and they're

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licensing it to us or they're putting it
on loan without paying for it. Um, but I

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think this is a donation. So, just
cleaning up the language in this as we

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finalize it. But I'm okay with
proceeding if that's fine. I think

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that's the only concern.
>> Makes sense.

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» Okay. Any other?
So, do you feel like we could uh approve

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this uh with the caveat that we clean up
the license verse loan verse donation?

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» Yes.
>> Yes. That's And it sounds like the

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intent is for this to be a donation.
>> Yes.

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» Great.
>> Go ahead, take a hold.

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» Trusty Guma.
>> Yes.

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» Trusty Solder.
>> Yes.

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» Trusty Saviano.
>> Yes.

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» Trusty Kunzie.
>> Yes.

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And uh let's move on to other agenda
agenda items. A

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» I will move to approve resolution
rejecting all proposals received in

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response to the villages request for
proposals for the 2026 lead service line

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replacement project.

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» Second.
>> Okay. Any discussion?

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» It's a heavy sigh.
any background uh to share on that in

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the path forward just to put on the
record for

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» people here
>> those watching. Yeah, we have Phil our

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public works director could speak on
this and we also have a representative

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from back.
>> Yes. Good evening. So we village

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budgeted for a rel relatively small
project lead service line replacement

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project in 2026 to replace approximately
12 lead services. Uh we received one

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bid. Unfortunately, it was just one bid
that was substantially higher than what

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we budgeted for, nearly twice the
project, the budgeted amount. Um

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as a result, we've been preparing to
reject bids um

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as a new funding opportunity has
recently presented itself to us. Um, we

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felt we staff felt that
the approximate cost to replace the 12

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lead service lines at roughly $32,000
per service

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was substantially almost double what
we're seeing in the region for replacing

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lead service lines. So, we didn't feel
that that was a a responsible

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expenditure.
>> But I just I guess my question is is

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this because I mean the
Okay, that could be one reason, but it's

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is it maybe because
we're getting this backlog of

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municipalities changing their lead lines
and so the work is backing up and this

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is just going to be a higher rate
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» certainly could be the case. Yes.
>> Do we know? Do you know I guess is the

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question.
>> Caitlyn Wright is here from back

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» join us again this evening. Go ahead.
>> Thank you Phil. Um, so to speak on that

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directly, I it's a combination of
things. A, you are correct that I expect

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to see pricing naturally go up. Um, the
state has already identified that

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there's not enough contractors to do
this type of work presently um, in terms

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of a labor force. So, yes, I do expect
pricing to go up. Do I expect pricing to

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double like what we saw in this bid
right now in the market? No.

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um likely what happened and we did talk
there were multiple plan holders. We

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called those plano holders and inquired
as to why they didn't submit a bid. The

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other plan holders were smaller local
plumbing firms. They were not.

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This project was too big for the local
plumbers to get bonded for and so small

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that the big contractors who are already
booked out for the rest of the year

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threw a number at it. So that's why we
saw such a high number. Um again, I do

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expect us to naturally see an increase
in pricing. We had other projects bid

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this year and we were not seeing 32,000
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18,000 per service line. So
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» Yep.
>> So do you feel like the solution might

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be uh we're bidding out for a bigger
batch that you know we're phasing so

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that they feel like it's worth bidding
on the larger scope over time and then

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is it normal about the required bonds
for the project is the reasons is that

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just smaller companies aren't
comfortable with those bonds? Yeah, I'm

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not I am by no means an expert on
getting bonding for this type of work as

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a contractor, but my understanding was
it was just too large of a scope of

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project for them to secure that bond.
Um, I don't want to speak on all of

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their behalf, but that was the
information that I was given. Um, in

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terms of what I think we can do better
for next time, yes, a larger size

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program will naturally entice more
larger contractors to do this. We're

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seeing contractors going after 100, 200,
300, 500 plus-siz sized lead service on

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replacement projects. I also feel that
the timing of advertising for bids will

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be really critical. Um, contractors have
booked out their summer. So, we we

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advertised this kind of late in the
year. Um, just trying to get the project

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going. We thought a small project people
would be able to fit that in. we were

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they can fit it in, but obviously it set
a price that we didn't necessarily want

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to recommend. Um, my recommendation is
that we would advertise this larger

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scale program either in November or
December so that contractors are

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planning to do the work for next year.
Um, and we're getting in advance of

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other projects going out for bid for
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So,
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How many
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to do this project?
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» that's on the next motion.
>> Yep. I'm happy to speak on that. Um

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» go ahead.
>> Do you want me to speak on that?

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» You may as well. While you're up there,
go ahead and do it.

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» Right. So the village um two three years
ago had put in a project plan requesting

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loan funding for a variety of different
projects. Lead service line replacements

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was part of that request for funding.
Um, we have been requesting funds

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through IEPA for lead service lines for
I think the past two years or maybe this

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was our first year. In any case, IEPA
has created a secondary subset of funds

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through their lead service line
replacement funding bucket. Without a

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description, I'm going to end up talking
with my hands, so I apologize. But this

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subset of funding is first come, first
serve. So it's the village is eligible

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to receive the funding. The village has
done everything that you guys can do to

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score appropriately, but your score is
tucked into your census track data.

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There is nothing we can do to alter your
score. So funds were exhausted for

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projects um requested at a score of 255.
The villages scored at

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» 254.
I wish um the villages score

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is 155. So IPA allocates funds from the
highest scored project down to the

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lowest scored project until they exhaust
funds. They exhausted at a score of 255.

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Again, Village didn't do anything wrong
in terms of trying to secure that

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funding. But now that they have now that
IEPA has a an additional bucket of

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funds, they're basically saying all of
these communities who did everything

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right, um you can chase this funding. Uh
they don't recommend us taking a project

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out to bid until we get a letter of
commitment from my EPA. So the next step

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would be going through a loan
application process. There's a borrowing

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ordinance. There's a legal opinion.
There's steps that the board is going to

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have to take in order to say, "Hey, we
are ready to go after this funding." Um,

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we would submit that to IEPA assuming it
checks all the boxes. They would issue a

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letter of commitment. There are
I didn't count how many, but the total

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sum amount that's being asked for in
this separate pool of funds is 282

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million worth of projects. IEPA has said
that they don't have 282 million to give

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out this year, but they have not told me
what the magic number is that they do

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have. Um, they said it's sizable. I I
presume that's well over a hundred

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million. Is it 200 million? I I don't
know what that number is. They might not

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know what that number is also because it
might be contingent on bid pricing

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coming in on other projects. So, um, if
the village wanted to go forward with a

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longer or a larger sized program, we
were looking to allocate or go after

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this loan funding anyway. And it looks
like it's something that the village can

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pursue presently. Um, should the village
want to do so.

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» Okay.
>> Bill, how many lead service lines do we

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still have left to replace?
>> 110 is it?

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» We're estimating around 370, give or
take. We have yet to finalize our actual

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inventory. I want to say there'sund
over a hundred services out there that

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are unknown at this point. So, we're
still working with homeowners and to

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determine what those material types are.
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» Do you recommend trying to find one
contractor to do all 300 to get the best

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pricing or splitting it between a few to
not overwhelm one or have you seen in

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other communities a pattern that works
better? I think for the size program

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that the village has presently 100 or
300 you're going to get the same sort of

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interest level um we're seeing some
communities have to do 500 to 800 to a

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thousand a year that's going to be an
entirely different scope of work and you

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would probably actually reduce it or
split it out to like a 300 per

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contractor range. So, um, could we do a
300 lead service lines in one year? Can

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a contractor handle that scope of work?
Yes, that is feasible. Um, I I think the

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110, uh, which is what that 2.1 million
is estimated to be for is a really good

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size program. We're not tearing up all
of town. Um, but we are going to do a

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considerable amount for that first year.
and we can potentially do it in three

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years time if we phase the program um
that direction. So,

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» okay.
>> Does it make sense to go after more of

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the funding?
>> We So, the village is in line to chase

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future fiscal years for funding. Um we
had sized the project based off of kind

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of staff recommendations for that 2.1
feeling reasonable. Um, but I will say

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we've had success with IEPA. Say like
bid if we took this forward, we bid the

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project after we got a letter of
commitment from IEPA and bids came in

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higher than expected. IEPA has so far
been open to increasing that loan

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amount. I don't know that I can go back
to them and say we actually want to do a

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300 lead service line program this year
when they're expecting 110.

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But um to your question, yes, we are
planning to pursue loans for future

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years as well.
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» So, I have a question, Phil. I remember
when we first started talking about this

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years ago,
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submit a plan to Illinois for what we
were going to do. Have we done that?

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» We have. So that's the project plan
which is this document here.

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And it does propose
replacing approximately 110 lead led

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service lines in 27, another 110 in 2028
and then another 110 in 2029.

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» Okay.
>> So it's a three-year program.

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» So that's in line with what we're asking
for.

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» Yes. And as Caitlyn mentioned, that's
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we're eligible for for this round of
loan funding if we're successful is year

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one of this three-year program
>> that was proposed in the project plan

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because we think we're going to have
more than the 330 over the 110 over the

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next three years. We may have to expand
one of the years or have a fourth year

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just to kind of get us to the to the
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» And my understanding is some of these
loans have been forgiven actually. Is

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that not true?

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» Yes. Um I wouldn't say forgiven per se.
So there is a principal forgiveness

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component um that is directly linked to
funds allocated from USPA the federal

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side. So Illinois state revolving fund
um has money that is from Illinois and

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whatever revenue sources that the state
is creating for that. And then we also

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are allocated funds every year from the
federal government. Those funds have a

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requirement dictated by US EPA on a set
percentage is for principal forgiveness.

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A set percentage is for loan. So what
they did this past year was 49% or the

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past five years technically
um 49% of those funds have to be

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principal forgiveness funds. 51% have to
be given out as loan funding. It was at

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the discretion of IEPA on how they
decided what was principal forgiveness

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or who got principal forgiveness and who
didn't.

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uh the communities that were formerly
allocated funds that 255 project number

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and higher most all of them received
some portion of principal forgiveness

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and some portion of loan. Everyone below
that 255

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the principal forgiveness was exhausted
on what was kind of assumed for this

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year. What ended up happening last year?
Same exact thing happened last year. So

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many communities got principal,
forgiveness, and loan funding. And a lot

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of communities last year said, "We'll
take the principal, forgiveness money,

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you take the loan. We're not going to
we're not going to take the loan portion

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of that." And so all of this loan money
was left over that IEPA still is

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required to give out as loan money. I
think that is part of the pool of

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funding that we are now pursuing right
now.

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» So almost certainly would not be
eligible. There is this current 2.1 get

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to call it million that we are pursuing
I can 99.9% say with confidence that

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there is no principal forgiveness
associated with it. It is a 0% loan for

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30 years
>> yes and there's no um

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issue with paying that back or penalty
for paying that back early. So,

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» okay.

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» Thank you.

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» Okay. So, we have to vote on rejecting
the bids first.

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» Yeah, we got to uh we got to vote on A
first.

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» So, do we have any more discussion on A?
>> Okay, let's go ahead and do a roll call.

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» Trusty Guma.
>> Yes.

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Trusty Solder.
>> Yes.

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» Trusty Saviano.
>> Yes.

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» Trusty Kunzie.
>> Yes.

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» Okay. And then that takes us to B. And
we're going to need a motion for that.

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I'll make a motion to approve a
resolution approving a contract for

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design engineering services
for the 2027 lead service line

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replacement project from Baxter and
Woodman, Inc.

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» A second.
>> Second.

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» Second.
>> Any more discussion on that?

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» So
this this motion that we're approving

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now

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design engineering services. But is this
not then the process of applying for

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this loan?
It is for that.

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» It's essentially for both.
>> Yes.

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» Part of the loan application process is
we have to show to IEPA that you are

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shovel ready for a project. So, we will
design this project up to what I would

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technically call 60% or permit ready
design. Um, basically so that IEPA has

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specifications and an exhibit to review
as well as the loan application

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documents.
They'll want to review those. We don't

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have to secure a permit for this work,
but in order to secure the loan, they

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want to see that we are ready to go.
Once that's reviewed, assuming it's

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approved and assuming that there's still
funds available because again they're

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operating this as first come first
serve, then we would um receive a letter

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of commitment from EPA after which we we
can take this out to bid in January. We

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could take this out to bid in November.
We could hold it until April. I would

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not advise doing that. um should we not
get a letter of commitment that design

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work is not like thrown out the door. We
would just pause until the village wants

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to move it forward. So
>> could conceivably have it next year.

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» Correct. Yep.
>> Okay.

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And I'll add too if I could highlight
one one sentence in my memo is we are

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building our 2027
street improvement program after

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with the hopeful
replacement of these 110 lead service

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lines. We're going to improve the
streets following this project next

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summer. So it'll be lead service lines
first portion of the year and then

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closer to towards the end of the year
we'll have our complete our street

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improvement project ideally on these
streets.

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» Yeah.
>> How much I mean how much do you have to

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tear up the road to get the line
replaced?

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You cannot get it from the side or you
can or

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» um so we we have to gain access to where
the water man is to make that connection

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point. So if your water manes in the
road which the majority of the villages

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water manes are in the road. Um there's
going to be like a 4 foot by six foot

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pit give or take. Um we incentivize
the contractor is not going to want to

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dig up more than they absolutely have
to. Right. So, um, that's kind of the

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average, I would say, size, but it will
be a patchwork quilt because you're

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going to have that in front of every
single home.

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» Correct. Um, unless they encounter a
problem, that should be the only

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location in the roadway that's getting
dug up. Um, unless they're having to do

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something where they have to follow the
service line up into like the parkway.

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That is very rare. I wouldn't plan for
that being an issue. So, it's really

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where the water man is, you're going to
see that pit across down the road in

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front of each home. So,
>> So, if Phil, if that's the case, if

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you're saying that after that we would
improve the road,

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are you saying we would just fill that
pit in with gravel and then tear up the

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entire surface and resurface?
>> Correct. Yes.

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So, for example, we're looking at First
Street from the from Bington to the

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north to the corporate limit that entire
stretch. We're looking at replacing all

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lead services potentially on Wenholes
from water to first Lincoln from Water

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to Wenholes. Um, and then other streets
in that area. So,

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» is that the area that had the higher
levels of lead too?

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» Correct. Yes.

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» So, those are bad too. It'll be a busy
construction season in this part of the

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community, but certainly they'll need
it.

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And the interesting thing about last
year's project with the contractor that

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performed the work is they essentially
pulled the service out. So they, as

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Caitlyn mentioned, they opened up
created an opening in the street and

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they pulled the service, they connected
the existing lead service to the copper

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service. He ran a section of copper pipe
in the basement copper line and just

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pulled it all the way out. Was a
fascinating process.

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» Good tape.
>> We got good tape to tie together.

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» Any other discussion?
>> Let's take a vote.

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» Trusty Guma,
>> yes.

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» Trusty Solder,
>> yes.

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» Trusty Saviano,
>> yes.

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» Trusty Kunzie,
>> yes.

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Okay.
And then uh let's take that takes us to

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C. I'll entertain a motion for that.

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I move to approve an ordinance amending
section 151.008

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of chapter 151
title 15 of the code pertaining to

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temporary structures.

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» Any second?
>> A second.

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» You got a second. Okay. Uh any
discussion? It looks like it was pretty

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pretty well basic of what we all
discussed last time.

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» Well,
>> does this say that you can only extend

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it two times and that's it?
>> Reading that right.

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» Right.
>> I didn't see that. Where's that at?

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» Oh,

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so limits the total extension to two.

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Do we want that in there?
>> Well, I feel like we didn't really work

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in most of the things we talked about.
So, I

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I think we wanted to figure out a
permanent way to have it, so we didn't

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need to have it be temporary if
possible. But there were things we

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talked about with maybe having a
structural engineer certify it uh to

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make sure that it's able to hold a snow
load and it's not just an event tent

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rental specs, but beefier specs. Um, and
that we'd have permanent grade anchoring

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footings inspected by the building
department. Uh, an annual reinspection,

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not just each time they extend a
request. Um, we did work in the fire

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marshall to inspect it. Um, but I'd like
to see, you know, which things like the

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sign off on egress and fire retardant fa
fabric, um, heat and venting safety.

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Those were some things we talked about.
>> I think that's all covered though.

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Number two, an inspection by the
building official and fire inspector

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inspector reveals that the temporary
structure is being maintained per the

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manufacturers's installation
requirements, including and without

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limitation, structural maintenance,
anchorage, and fabric

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» or did you want it all
>> itemized out?

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» Well, I feel like the the fire marshall
section was a little more full. I think

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it seemed like mostly that, but some of
these other things weren't uh as spelled

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out.

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And then there was a ADA section in the
ordinance that we dropped the villages

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ADA codes for the states. Uh, and I
didn't research what that implication

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is. So, just wanted to hear from staff
before proceeding to make sure that was

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looked at and that was intentional and
not just something that kind of got

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dropped and swapped because I'm not sure
what the ramifications of that are.

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Um, but yeah, rather in the language
where it says uh

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I should look exactly, but where it says
the the village board's discretion on

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whether or not they want to extend it,
I'd rather that be an objective standard

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instead of uh subjective, like depending
on who the village board is and your

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relationship with them, uh you may or
may not get this. I'd rather it be meet

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these objective standards and that's the
only criteria or if there's uh an

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extension of doing something temporary
because we're building a permanent

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structure that progress is shown. So,
it's not just a promise that someday

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we're going to build something, but we
haven't built anything or pulled any

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engineering drawings or drafting permits
or done any work at all. So like to see

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it
uh strengthened up a little bit more to

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make it a little more objective and make
sure we cover u

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something that can move from temporary
to permanent and have all the mechanisms

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to have yearly inspections.

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we could uh touch base with Chris and
the attorney, but I think that was the

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hard part was drawing that fine line on
what's temporary and everything you just

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described is permanent. So like how do
you at what point do you cross over that

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we're not just looking at something
that's temporary anymore but we're just

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requiring exactly what is required with
permanent structures with footings and

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the load carrying and all that other
type of permanent fixtures that you're

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going to need that eventually you want.
I mean I if I remember correctly just

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talking with Chris, Mark, and Kelly
about this is these were the standards

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for something temporary whereas
everything else might just require a

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clear amendment to the building code if
you want to just permit that going

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forward. But the building inspector's
recommendation is to not codify that is

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to just keep it in line with the ICC's
temporary definitions of these. So

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having, you know, the building inspector
grant one or two extensions and then if

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he or she denies it, then it goes to the
board for two extra extensions

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180 days at a time. The theory is you're
giving maybe three, four years of

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uh leeway for this business to come into
a more permanent structure.

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» But it seems like they could just
reapply and start over. Like there's not

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a cap defined in there that they could
internally.

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» They sure can.
>> Yep.

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» But yeah, I think we were trying to see
if there was a middle ground. Like

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temporary structures don't really work
for year round. uh permanent ones uh too

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expensive, but we were trying to figure
out if there was a year round

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uh like soft covered like a tent that is
sturdier than a cheap or flimsy one that

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we could reinspect and make sure that as
it degrades it's being replaced. It does

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seem like a lot of the things that are
being done uh Alanos is like the

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anchorings and footings are more burly
and sturdy than like a tent before an

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event. So like there is an in between.
So if we can't define it in a way we're

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comfortable with and I'd almost want to
just strengthen you know making sure

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that it's not an eternally granted
privilege if you have u the village

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board's favor but if not then you don't.
So, I'd rather it be an objective hard

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cut off uh or if we can define it as
something that is very structured but is

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encouraging outdoor dining for
restaurants. Sure.

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» But it seems like we're kind of back to
the original one with eternal granting

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uh exceptions because I think it was
has it been five years that we've been

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extending or was
>> something like that, right?

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» Because it could easily be another five
or 10.

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And we also talked about having a
certificate of insurance that claims the

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village is not liable for anything that
happens if a tent does fail. Um there

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were a lot of concerns about just
permitting something that's not safe and

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I feel like we're maybe still
>> I'd be hesitant to list a lot of

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different criteria because this is
covering not only

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but our tents that we put up for our
events too. or temporary structures.

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» Well, I wouldn't change those,
>> right? But if you're telling people that

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they have to pass all these rules that
we're we're trying to make objective,

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then what structure is this? Is this for
a th00and square foot structure or is

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this for a 100,000 square foot
structure?

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» Once you go beyond temporary,
>> I think that's what the the inspectors

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are trained to do is, hey, hey, it's
it's sturdy enough for what it's going

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to be doing for this weekend or for the
180 days. It's good. And then we have to

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approve it. The board has to approve it.
I see what you're saying. I

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And then once 180 days, what if Alianos
takes it down today and then they put

422
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,200
one up in two days because they want to
put up a new one. Is that another 180

423
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,919
days now? Because they took it down and
they put it up.

424
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:43,679
» They could trigger the extension bit for
the building inspector.

425
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,679
» It's costly, labor intensive to put that
up.

426
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:51,039
» Yeah. But if you're reinstalling and
reattaching everything and some of the

427
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:54,880
fabric is frayed, you're probably not
going to go through the effort of

428
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,640
installing bad fabric and you are
checking all connections. So

429
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:02,480
» I think that's why
>> Sorry.

430
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,760
» I think that's why temporary structures
is treated as temporary because you take

431
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:10,560
it down, put it up again, and it's kind
of refreshed. But if you just make it

432
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:15,200
permanent, it will degrade over time. So
it is a new category. I wouldn't want to

433
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:20,639
change temporary rules.
I agree with that. I last time we talked

434
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:25,040
thought we brought up seeing if we could
get some manufacturer specs from where

435
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:29,599
we built that thing and you know seeing
>> if present did you have anything to add

436
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:32,399
in the conversation when me you Chris
and Kelly met about this

437
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:36,240
» how we came up to this.
>> So if I remember right this verbiage is

438
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,240
in there because now it's going to allow
him to reapply which then opens up the

439
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:44,000
inspection for everything you're looking
for. Okay. It's not just here's your one

440
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,960
permit and then we're going to let it
fly for six years. This gives us the leg

441
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:52,960
up to get in there. Okay, here your 180
days are up. Reapply. Me and Chris are

442
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,399
back in there. Visual inspection, but
you're only allowed to do it so long.

443
00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:00,160
Temporary is temporary at the end of the
day. So, if it does take it down for two

444
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,359
days and put it back up, that's kind of
what we're getting at. We don't want to

445
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:06,960
leave it up for 10 years, but we also
want to be able to get in there and

446
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:11,359
check it. So, and that's something that
Kelly and us went over is because the

447
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:13,760
code's very strong. It's either
temporary or you take it down and you

448
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,760
build something.
>> This is where I said to that gray area

449
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,599
where now you're just going to make it a
permanent structure and you're going to

450
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:25,280
be amending the building code and it's
not really best practices to

451
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:30,320
» So, how can we get in there and verify
it's safe? Permanent. You permanent

452
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,760
reapply. Get an inspection and we go in
there and hey, this is wrong. Your

453
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,040
fabric's off. Your fabric's expired.
Change your fabric. the permanent will

454
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,720
approve them. So we can at least get in
there every year and do something with

455
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,640
it.
>> So we're talking about allowing that

456
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:48,240
structure to be permanent,
>> not allowing them to reapply to extend

457
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:54,800
it, not allowing it to be permanent.
>> So up to to 180

458
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:59,440
plus the building inspectors if
>> he or she wants to grant to it con cons

459
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,680
uh consecutively, that's their
discretion and that that power of that

460
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,440
authority. But when that person, whoever
it is, denies it, then the appeal

461
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:11,040
process is to the board for the two
extent two times.

462
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,640
» So it could be
>> perpetual

463
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:22,800
» perpetual
but but if one of the inspectors flags

464
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:28,560
it, then it then it becomes
limited to two renewals

465
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:35,119
» via the appeal process before the board.
If they get the appeal and we grant it,

466
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:43,359
does then it go back to
perpetual as long as they

467
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:47,520
approve it or does it say once you go
back to the board, you've got it for 360

468
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,079
more days and that's it.
>> I think it's 180.

469
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,000
» Well, 180*
>> I would imagine that the final decision

470
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,839
from the building inspector would stand
firm after that six months. six months.

471
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,920
I mean, if you want us to go back and
look at a more

472
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:09,680
» this is clear as mud.
>> Yeah. And that is very difficult when

473
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,920
dealing with building codes. You
typically don't want to deviate from

474
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:20,320
that. But if if the board's will is to
create something like that and amend the

475
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:25,200
building code, you sure can. Um just not
recommend it.

476
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:28,880
» Yeah. I'd like to get out of where we
just have to answer whether or not we're

477
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:33,200
going to make somebody tear down a tent
based on our opinion every year for five

478
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:38,960
years and then the next five years
instead of having a process a process

479
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:43,760
that doesn't allow that. That is just
objective. You meet these or you don't.

480
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:50,320
» Well, this this is that is it not
because it's going to be them

481
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:57,920
being the arbiter, not us.
Uh but they can come to us to grant it

482
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:02,880
anyway. Isn't that part of this
>> for for 180 days and then that's it.

483
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,760
» But then they could just reapply again.
>> No.

484
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,920
» Is there?
>> No, that has to come down.

485
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,119
» Then it has to come.
>> That'll have to come down and then he

486
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:14,240
can reapply and then he can reconstruct
it. That's the I think what the goal

487
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:20,240
Kelly was trying here was we'll get as
much as we can, but at some point or

488
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,960
another it's going to have to come down.
So, so

489
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:27,680
» you know there is another route we could
look at. Maybe like we discussed this in

490
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:32,640
the past that maybe there's just a a
code amendment to our zoning that allows

491
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:39,359
for seasonal type stuff but not year
round but like seasonal temp tents for

492
00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:45,119
example awnings in the B1. Maybe that
could be crafted into the zoning code as

493
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,480
an option away from the building code.
>> So that is another option to explore.

494
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,720
Can you look into the Illinois code
because it it says that the Illinois

495
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:59,119
code differentiates between tents which
are fabric membrane structures

496
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:04,320
and rigid aluminum frame structures with
hard or non-fabric ball panels.

497
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:10,640
» The Illinois codes are the minimum
standard. So we village IC and the fire

498
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:15,920
district's ICC that have adopted or
higher standard. So those are designed

499
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,200
for areas that don't have adopted codes.
So

500
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,839
» you can't go from a more stringent to a
less stringent.

501
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,880
» So if someone went to build a brand new
house right now, they can't go off the

502
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:28,960
state code, they have to go off what the
village eastund adopted.

503
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:32,160
» Now the v there was no village. It was
unincorporated or there was an area that

504
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,920
didn't adopt the code. That is the
absolute bare minimum that a contractor

505
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,760
has to build that house to. That's how
that's how that works.

506
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:44,560
» Can we revert to state code when it
comes to

507
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:47,760
structures, temporary permanent
structure?

508
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,720
We've been doing some digging on how
some people get around this. We really

509
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,000
have. And what it comes down to, it's
going to cost money. Um, you know,

510
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Elgrove Village has a permanent tent
outside one of our hotels. I called them

511
00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:02,400
up directly. They permanently anchored
it down. It's raided. They sprinkled it

512
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:07,280
and they fired it. You don't have that
option here. They turned it into a

513
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,760
building. You can't do that with this
one.

514
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:12,800
» We're also trying to keep costs in mind
when you're coming up with stuff like

515
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,240
this. Everything's going to cost money
to make in work.

516
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:21,040
» Yeah.
Yeah.

517
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:26,240
Or we charge them for the inspections
and all the things. We still are putting

518
00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:31,200
research into all these to set it up.
But are you saying ongoing it costs us a

519
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:36,000
lot or can those costs be put on
>> fair cost to bring it up to a more

520
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,839
satisfying safety
>> cost? Yeah.

521
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:44,240
» Yeah.
I mean we can certainly bring it back

522
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:47,920
with those other criterias uh for your
consideration but you know this a

523
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,359
situation like this we could also look
at zoning as an alternative

524
00:40:53,119 --> 00:41:02,560
» in the meantime can we get some
specifications from the manufacturer

525
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,079
» I did I did acquire some not all but
yeah I I could work on it but that's

526
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,280
only going to answer the question for
this one establishment not

527
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,760
Because whatever gets written is going
to have to hold water for everybody else

528
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,720
that puts the tent up,
>> right?

529
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:19,760
» Just wondering the rating, weight
rating, snow load rating,

530
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,800
tired rating,
>> if they have done any of that work or

531
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,359
not, the manufacturer.
>> Yeah, we can get some of that from them.

532
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,240
» It comes down to what you want to do in
the future because even if it comes back

533
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:35,280
that it's still good, he's still on an
expired permit right now.

534
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,800
» So that's what I think this is trying to
fix.

535
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,960
So, if we're saying we really want them
to eventually have to take it down and

536
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:47,760
put it back up to reapply so that we can
get in with the inspection, is there a

537
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:53,440
route where we could just yearly inspect
it and say these things don't meet uh a

538
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:57,760
brand new tent specs, but if they do,
you can continue one more year and we

539
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:02,160
reinspect again next year.
Kelly looked into that and I do believe

540
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:07,440
that was where the option came from with
the um coming to the board if there was

541
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:13,200
a problem because she's very adamant
that the book the codes the code.

542
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:18,960
» Yeah, I'd like to I mean I'd be okay
with every year you get inspected and if

543
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,480
it meets inspection uh you continue but
as soon as it doesn't it comes down

544
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:28,640
immediately and there's no appeal to the
board uh to see if we can

545
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,800
uh just skirt around safety because I'd
rather not let that be an option.

546
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:36,079
» I think we I'd feel more comfortable
getting that out of

547
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:39,119
» Yeah, we would have to look over that
option.

548
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,920
» We got to watch that fine line of what
you allow right now that's not written

549
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,000
in an ordinance because if something
were to happen, it's going to be on all

550
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,560
of us.
>> So, we got to make sure if we get an

551
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,480
answer out of this.
>> I think this right here is a good

552
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:56,160
starting point. It at least gets our
inspectors in there and they got a year.

553
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,680
They're essentially up to a year now to
figure things out.

554
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,520
» Yeah. And I believe it gave the leg up
on giving him the time or or the

555
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:09,040
business, not the single way out, giving
the business time to make a future plan

556
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:12,880
for okay, we're going to allow it for
now. What's your plan?

557
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:16,480
» I think that was the last conversation
when this all started at the board

558
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,400
meeting was this was to a temporary
relief to give him the adequate time

559
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,640
frame to figure out a permanent
solution.

560
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,160
improve
>> right now. That was the story.

561
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,720
» That was the story. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

562
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,599
» This is a shortcut allowing just letting
it be up. Okay.

563
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200
» And plus it gets our inspectors in
there.

564
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,720
» Yeah. And it gets us in there to get
eyes on it to at least allow to be safe

565
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,560
to standards for now. So
Chris, myself, and and Kelly were in

566
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:46,720
emails back and forth, and this is what
we ended up coming up on. So when I go

567
00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:49,839
back, I feel more comfortable going with
the attorneys who want to move any other

568
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,119
verbage around.
>> So it makes sense to put this through.

569
00:43:51,359 --> 00:43:58,160
so that you can get eyes on it and then
we can still do research and tweak.

570
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,720
» Yeah. And you can always strike this.
>> Okay.

571
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,520
» This just like any other ordinance you
do, you can come back and strike if you

572
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,400
come up with a better off.
>> Yeah. That's always fair. At least you

573
00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:07,839
can get in there and make sure it's
safe.

574
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,640
» Mhm.
>> So, as it's written, this does demand

575
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,680
they get inspected now and then take it
down if it doesn't meet inspections

576
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,680
after so many days.
>> Yeah. Or the appeal, actually. So

577
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,560
they'll come to the appeal and then you
guys will decide if you'll give them the

578
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,680
extra. Was it 180?
>> 180. And then at that point which gave

579
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,680
them to the spring, right? Is that what
the time frame it was?

580
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,520
» Yeah.
>> Which gave them to the spring.

581
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,359
» So because I believe there was a mapped
out plan of attack on this in June or

582
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,480
Right. the June.
>> And that's and it's and that's the

583
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,839
scenario if the building inspector
doesn't approve it.

584
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,839
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean I hope it gets approved and

585
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:48,400
it's fine. Yeah,
>> but since

586
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,800
I'd rather uh if it isn't approved that
it does come down because it has been

587
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,599
five years of extending it hoping that
eventually we'll upgrade it. So,

588
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:59,760
» right. I think that's the crux of this
that it was always communicated to the

589
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:03,040
board that we're working on a solution.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

590
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:07,440
» And in those situations, I'd like to see
actual proof of money invested in a

591
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:13,280
space and some building happening and
engineering paid paid for or something

592
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:16,680
» because uh it's one thing to say you're
going to do it.

593
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440
» All right.
>> Thank you.

594
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,920
» Thanks, Mark.
>> Thank you.

595
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:27,119
» Let's go ahead and take a vote.
>> Okay. Trusty Guma.

596
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,520
» No.
>> Trusty Solder.

597
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:34,599
No.

598
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,720
» Trusty Saviano.
>> Yes.

599
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,720
» Trusty Kunzie.
>> No.

600
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,960
» We'll come back and present another
option for the board via the zoning.

601
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,960
» Has
applied again for their temporary.

602
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:56,079
» I'll have to check
>> since that meeting that we had last

603
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,720
time.
>> I didn't go after them because I'm

604
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:05,040
trying not to seam out anyone on this
one. So, I didn't catch up with them.

605
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,720
» We have two in town.
>> I would I don't think we do have two.

606
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,680
» No,
>> I I think there's a huge difference

607
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:21,520
between one and the other like to say
that what a yurt is the same as a giant

608
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,720
aluminum structure is
>> that's what we're trying to figure out.

609
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,920
I mean, what what can we do to make it
more of a permanent? What can they do to

610
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,359
make it more of a permanent? Can they
change the framework? What?

611
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,680
» Well, that's what we should be asking.
Everything will cost a lot more money

612
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:39,440
and I think that's the hiccup.
>> Understood.

613
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,079
» We'll come to something.
>> All right. How about uh D? We need

614
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:48,960
direction and uh discussion direction
regarding a potential ordinance amending

615
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:57,599
section 70.11,
70.12, 70.13, and 70.14 on in repealing

616
00:46:53,839 --> 00:47:01,920
schedule 7 of chapter 71 charter.
truck routes.

617
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:06,960
» So,
are we talking about

618
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:10,960
banning trucks from the truck route that
we made a couple years ago? Is that what

619
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:15,680
this is saying?
>> Yeah. In a nutshell, they would not

620
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:19,599
designate Bington as the truck route.
>> It would say they only can go on the

621
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,319
highways unless they're making a
delivery inside of the downtown.

622
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,880
» Correct.
>> I thought, so if that's possible, why

623
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,760
didn't we do that two years ago? Yeah, I
thought we had

624
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,800
» I thought that I thought we were told we
can't do that.

625
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,800
» I don't know the answer to that.
>> I thought there was a high dot

626
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,040
designated truck. No.
>> No.

627
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,640
» Um
>> we were told

628
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:49,119
» we have to allow some way for these
trucks to get through. And

629
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:53,760
that's why we designated Bington because
we wanted to limit it from all of these

630
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:57,680
side streets and just say fine, if you
have to come through, you have to go

631
00:47:55,119 --> 00:48:02,319
down Bington. That's why it was
designated.

632
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,720
But if we had the option to just say no,
no trucks.

633
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,160
» Yeah.
>> Well, we have to allow trucks. We just

634
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:13,359
not telling them they have to go on that
one street. That's it.

635
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:20,000
» They're you're going to get trucks. are
going to get Josh like help us out here.

636
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:23,839
» So, here's what I've I've found just in
being in Village Hall, being around town

637
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:29,200
for the last few years. I would
guesstimate that 80 to 90% of our truck

638
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:34,559
traffic is trucks trying to get over to
Lion and Carpentersville.

639
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:38,880
So, we had a discussion when uh Eric was
still here as a village administrator.

640
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:44,720
Uh we were talking about doing a a truck
study and I pitched the idea, how about

641
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:48,960
we save that money and just no trucks
through East Dundee because they're all

642
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:52,319
going over to uh Lion Eyes and uh I'm
sorry, not Lion Eyes, but RevCore and

643
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,839
Carpentersville.
>> Um

644
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:58,800
they can go through Carpentersville to
get through RevCore. They don't need to

645
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:01,680
come through Eastundi through RevCore.
So that's what I pitched and that's kind

646
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,520
of where we
>> and then we had lengthy conversations

647
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,520
with Kelly and Kelly went back and forth
with the ID do engineers,

648
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,640
» right?
>> And after a discussion with ID do

649
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:16,960
multiple times, they said basically you
could just submit to us your update that

650
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:22,800
you're going to designate to three rows
72, 25, and 68 is the state highways and

651
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,960
that's it in Eastund. So that's where
we're going to go with that.

652
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:28,880
» Okay,
>> great.

653
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:31,599
That is the exemption.
>> Yes.

654
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:34,319
» With the and like President Pearson
said, the exemption is for deliveries.

655
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,599
They can make it
>> obviously.

656
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:41,040
» What about Lioniz?
>> That would be considered part of the

657
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:46,000
operation for deliveries.
>> But what you're saying is you think this

658
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:49,200
might cut down trucks by 80%.
That's my

659
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:53,680
» this this this would target the trucks
that are making a delivery from out west

660
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:59,520
and want to go to like Bington and they
say, "Oh, well, East Bington's a a pass

661
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,200
through, so we'll go through there."
Whereas now those outside that have

662
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:06,640
nothing to do with Lionizer RevCore can
just say, "Oh, we got to stay on 72 to

663
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,400
60 25."
>> Or they can take

664
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,960
whatever.
>> Sure.

665
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:20,960
and Bronco, if I may, um the the
ordinance presented uh does technically

666
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,839
for the trucks going to Lion Eyes or
Third Street, there's actually a

667
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,920
designated route for them specifically
in this ordinance. So, they're not

668
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:32,720
» uh just grandfathered in as originally
was discussed like uh like delivery

669
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:35,119
trucks. They have a designated route for
them.

670
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:40,240
» Yeah. For them specifically.
>> Yeah.

671
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,240
» Third Street to Bington. down to 68 to
72.

672
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:50,280
» So, is there does Carpentersville have a
designated shakra?

673
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:55,520
» Yeah,
we're going to we're going to

674
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,559
» they're going to they're going to warn
they're going to warn their designation.

675
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,760
» We're going to send those two businesses
a courtesy update just so they know

676
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,760
» after the board's decision.
>> So, how how would a truck get to RevCore

677
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,480
then?
They have to go down

678
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,440
» to 31
>> Main Street

679
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,359
Carp.
>> I wouldn't want to take a semi down that

680
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,440
hill.
>> What's that?

681
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:21,760
» I wouldn't want to take a semi down that
hill.

682
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,960
» Oh, well, you can also take what is the
road that goes um

683
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:30,000
» Lake Marian.
>> Lake Marian goes and then you could turn

684
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:32,720
left on I mean, listen, this is their
problem.

685
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,800
» You don't have to worry about it.
>> Like at Walmart, you could turn off 25

686
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:40,160
and that goes there, too. Yeah,
>> there's there's multiple ways they could

687
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:43,040
do it.
>> And there's a hill on either side of

688
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:45,839
like
>> I mean

689
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:50,319
» they don't want to go past the river the
hill. But

690
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:53,520
» isn't RevCore doing deliveries?
>> What does RevCore even do?

691
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,839
» They make fans.
>> Yeah. So, but aren't those trucks exempt

692
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,200
if they're doing deliveries
>> into downtown?

693
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:06,079
» Yeah. They're not just passing through.
>> Ref.

694
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,000
Well, yes, if they are going to downtown
East Indie, then yes, they would be

695
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,200
exempted and allowed to do that.
>> The beer semis can still go to

696
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:20,240
» I think that RevCore probably they're
not just doing business only with

697
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:25,680
businesses in downtown is my guess.
>> Maybe they're

698
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:32,720
» I would wholeheartedly agree with that.
>> This isn't for a vote.

699
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:35,359
» It is. Yeah. So, I think we're on board.
>> Yes.

700
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,920
is the answer.
>> Oh, we've never done a truck study

701
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:42,640
either.
>> We did do a truck study. We did one a

702
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,880
few years back. Um don't have those
results,

703
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:50,319
» but this would have been a more
comprehensive one that uh chief was uh

704
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:54,319
referring to and it was great suggestion
saying, you know, why can't we just ask

705
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:56,960
the attorneys if we could just omit
Bington from our truck route and save

706
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:00,319
the headache?
>> Yeah.

707
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,559
» Yeah. And that truck route study showed
that a lot of trucks were going down

708
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:12,160
Water Street all the way about 72, which
is why we looked at changing the park,

709
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,079
» right?
>> Changing the truck route and all that

710
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:20,319
because that was a disaster.
>> So,

711
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:25,760
what what's the plan? we get rid of the
truck route and then

712
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:30,800
» come back with the ordinance and then uh
>> update I do

713
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:35,200
» I think clear signage to make sure
trucks are very aware and the courtesy

714
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:38,720
call I think is a great idea. Yeah,
>> we'll definitely let the two businesses

715
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:45,119
know with the letter that the board has
XYZ accordance

716
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:50,640
» and then um clarity on like the license
class license plate classifications. Uh

717
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:57,680
there were like four spots that they
were all different in like for classes F

718
00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:02,319
through Z or B through V or H through Z
there was and some didn't say. So, just

719
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,760
when we write this up, make sure it's
consistent. And I'm not sure what those

720
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:12,000
classifications are, but make sure we're
targeting the right classes.

721
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:17,839
» And also,
uh, navigation, right? Like I don't know

722
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:22,480
what truckers use. Do they don't use
Google Maps probably? Right. Do they

723
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,160
» Chief knows that one pretty good. He's
>> called and yelled at them quite some

724
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,440
time.
>> Yeah.

725
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:31,200
» Right. Several different apps, right?
And you're correct. Google Maps isn't

726
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,119
one of them. They have have apps that
are specific to truckers.

727
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,599
» All right.
>> I can't tell you for sure what there

728
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:39,920
are. There's more.
>> Contact those apps, right?

729
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,559
» Well, so ID do once we once we advise ID
do okay

730
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:46,559
» and inform Google Maps that's supposed
to go out. Now, what when we did this

731
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,839
the first time, what some of the
truckers would we would stop would say

732
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,440
is that I, you know, I didn't know. I
was just following my app.

733
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:57,680
» Yeah.
>> So, I don't think it's a perfect system

734
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,960
is is the answer. It'll take a while,
>> right?

735
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,480
One of the things that we did to our
ordinance before though is that we made

736
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:08,319
trailer or truck length part of our
ordinance and that that has helped us as

737
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,880
far as being able to enforce them
>> because then we don't have to bring them

738
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:18,960
up the ploy to I'm sorry, PAL to have
them weighed and etc.

739
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:23,280
» Can our signs say local East Dundy
deliveries only or something that makes

740
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:27,200
it clear that they're like, "Oh, it is a
local delivery. It's for carbon." Well,

741
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,599
the the local delivery is part of the
state statute. We have to allow it. What

742
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Phil put out on the signage was it just
essentially says no trucks and there was

743
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:40,160
the orange flags hanging, so it was very
visible. Now, we've made stops on

744
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:45,760
truckers that said yes, I saw the signs,
but I had to go that way. So,

745
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,040
» yes. Yes. When you start here, you have
to go that way. You don't have to start

746
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:51,920
there.
>> Okay.

747
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,440
» Thank you.
>> Good.

748
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,960
» All right. Good. Move on to E.
Discussion direction regarding exterior

749
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,880
and permanent signage for the downtown
parking garage.

750
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:07,280
» Who's talking about that? Anyone?
>> I like the third one.

751
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,880
» It's a very efficient discussion.
>> There you go.

752
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:17,440
» I mean,
>> yeah. So, um, we had in the budget to

753
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:22,799
have 11,000 for the um the counting uh
app uh function. U I believe looked into

754
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:28,319
it and it wasn't really exactly what we
were looking for. Anything else would

755
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:31,920
have been maybe 50 $60,000 to have a
numeric count of how many open spaces

756
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,880
are there.
Uh but we do know that as part of the

757
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:37,520
parking garage, we communicated that
there was going to be signage at some

758
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,760
point. We've had like the temporary
banners out there for a while. So now we

759
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:47,119
want to move into something more
permanent. Uh staff presented an option

760
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,640
at the PZHC meeting a few months back.
PCHC basically said, "This is great, but

761
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:57,040
how about something more historic
looking that matches the downtown?" Um,

762
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:01,040
one PCAC member was an architect
mentioned a marquee style, like a

763
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:06,559
theater style. So, we kind of went with
that and we got some uh renders on uh

764
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,920
options for the board to consider. One,
two, or three, or none at all? Go back

765
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:12,640
to the drawing board, however the board
seats fit.

766
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,240
» Now, are there are there going to be two
of these or one?

767
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:19,119
» Just the one.
>> Okay.

768
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,520
» All right. Yeah, the third one is my
preference as well

769
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:26,799
» with the curved arrow.
>> Yes.

770
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:31,680
more vintage and true to the second one
is way too clunky. The third I mean the

771
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:37,359
first one if if people hated arrow I
would be okay with that. The second one

772
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:41,520
» what is our resident designer
>> I have a hard time figuring out what

773
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:48,960
shirt and pants to wear. So I'll let
I'll let you figure out what you want.

774
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:54,640
Yeah, I I think uh the third one also,
but if we could use our village branded

775
00:57:51,920 --> 00:58:00,640
font, Ignite, it's very condensed and
bold. And this is like P with a big gap

776
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:05,200
before A then R. This would just be like
park as one unit.

777
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:09,920
» I mean, I have to I have to assume that
the park portion of this uh was not

778
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:13,839
» I mean, they didn't dimension any of the
lettering. There's no way that's what

779
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:17,760
they would actually do, right? Like this
isn't they're not even spaced evenly,

780
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,680
» right?
>> Well, you'd be surprised what a sign

781
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,839
shop will do if they're not given any
design specs. They will do whatever it's

782
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:28,480
cheapest and easiest. So,
>> I like the consistency of using our

783
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,960
font.
>> Yeah, that seems like a good idea.

784
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,799
» All right.
>> Yeah. for reference just like that's our

785
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:37,799
font.

786
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:44,960
» So filling in a bit more because it's
taller letters, but that's our village

787
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:49,680
font that could kind of fill the space a
little better.

788
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:54,240
But that would be it's Ignite. It's on
all of our signs, so it also match and

789
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,319
feel like that's a village's words.
>> All right.

790
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,960
Hopefully that won't be an extra $5,000.

791
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,359
So your recommendation is change the
font.

792
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:12,559
» Yeah. To the village branded font.
Ignite is the name of that font. Yes.

793
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,400
» Village staff has sent that font. I I
don't know if it's just not translating

794
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,760
the concept, but we will make sure
>> when we move forward to get a final

795
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:24,799
proof and review that, but they do have
those fonts that both the Factori or

796
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,720
Factora and then Ignite as well. So
>> yeah, I think Ignite will fit this the

797
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:32,799
best. Okay. Um,
and yeah, I wasn't sure if they just

798
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:37,359
have some stock letters and they're
showing this because it's a lower price,

799
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,839
uh, but to do a custom letter, if it's a
structural sign, might cost more. So,

800
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,200
» yeah,
>> we'll have to see because that might

801
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:48,559
affect the the cost.
>> Sure. When I last talked to them, um, I

802
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:52,640
asked if if this cost and concept
factored in our fonts, Ignite or Vector,

803
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,680
and I was told it would be the same
price regardless of the optional font.

804
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:00,799
» Perfect.
>> We find this company racing

805
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:07,680
the sl.
>> Well, we reached out to um a three

806
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:13,040
different companies and then um this one
is what staff depending on costs and

807
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:19,200
just overall designs that we got. This
is u we the staff wasn't directed to

808
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:24,440
continue with this company and bring
concepts to the

809
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,440
» one of the more responsive ones.

810
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:31,920
If I have a local company who would bend
this, we take a look at that.

811
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:39,920
» We could reach out to other more local
companies if you'd like.

812
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:43,839
» Always open to getting lower quotes
and using local people. Yeah,

813
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:47,280
» I do think this one is past the
expiration date that they put in their

814
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,200
proposal. So,
>> we've been talking with them though.

815
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:54,160
They just
>> Okay.

816
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:57,359
» All right. You guys got enough to go on
then?

817
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,760
» And another reason why this company
reached out and we talked to them is

818
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,799
because they were also the ones
interested in bidding for uh the gateway

819
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:06,559
signage,
>> the welcome east ones. So that's how

820
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:13,440
they kind of were always on our radar as
a reputable company through um Gary Rber

821
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,839
coming into town or the ones that
historic

822
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,599
» into town. Okay. Because we just talked
about that.

823
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,520
» Yes. Yes.
>> It is kind of a niche kind of signage

824
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:25,760
industry to do these structural lit
signs. So, I'd want to make sure they're

825
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,599
comfortable the other vendor with those
same specs. But, yeah.

826
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,119
» Okay.
>> More more quotes better.

827
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:39,200
» Okay.
>> That takes us on to our report.

828
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:44,880
» Trusty Goomba,
>> no report.

829
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,599
» All right. Trusty Ser.
>> Uh, no report.

830
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:52,799
» Trusty Sabiano,
>> no report.

831
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:58,160
» All right. And then last,
>> I will just say that uh yesterday my

832
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:03,520
wife and I were walking
down the water street and

833
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:10,079
three
uh kayaks were rented out

834
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:17,920
and the parking lot was full except for
>> two empty spots and that was it. So

835
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:22,400
» it's all getting used. That's cool.
That's one.

836
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:28,160
» Okay, Phil.
Phil,

837
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:32,160
» we went live today with the blue and
they can be picked up in our lobby and

838
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,720
then our office will be carrying them as
well. What it is is it uh benefits

839
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:41,359
autism awareness. So, if we pull over an
autistic driver that has uh

840
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,960
communication needs, doesn't communicate
like like you and I would, they can hand

841
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,280
the officer the blue envelope. They've
got other information That just leads to

842
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,200
safer stops.
>> Good.

843
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:56,720
» Awesome.
>> Okay.

844
01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:00,880
» Just on Tristy Kunzy's uh report, uh we
have had 35 rentals for the back.

845
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:05,200
» How many?
>> 35.

846
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,920
» Um I can send that to you via email.
It's uh

847
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:11,280
» just depends on how long you're going to
do it and stuff.

848
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,960
» And
uh

849
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:18,720
that's awesome.
Do we I mean, we're getting a cotton,

850
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,680
aren't we?
>> We will get a uh a payment later on the

851
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:26,240
year for that. Yeah. Percentage.
>> That's great.

852
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,520
» How many weeks has it been up?
>> Uh three weeks.

853
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,680
» How many?
>> Three weeks.

854
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,000
» Three weeks.
>> And we've had terrible weather,

855
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,480
» right?
>> Yeah.

856
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:40,160
» And a lot of people online are saying
there's no law. What? How? Why would I

857
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:46,079
listen? That
>> damn people people online are wrong.

858
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:49,039
» It's controversial.
Um, all right. Do we have anything?

859
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,240
» No report.
>> No report.

860
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:57,119
» No report.
>> All right. I do have one thing going off

861
01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:02,799
of online stuff. Um, I want to put it
out on the video that none of us have

862
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,880
signed any NDAs or anything regarding
any sort of data centers or anything

863
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:12,480
like that. And to think that I would
take money from anybody is ridiculous

864
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:16,960
and it's very insulting because if you
knew how the government works, the

865
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:22,000
trustees make the decisions, not the
village president. So please educate

866
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:25,520
yourself before you make comments
online. That's all I got.

867
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:30,400
» I had to say it.
>> Trying to say we took money.

868
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:32,319
» I don't know. East, we're Eastundee. I
mean, how much money could they give

869
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:36,880
you?
>> I'll be down in South with my new

870
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:44,160
friends. Um, okay.
I'll entertain a motion to close the

871
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:50,240
open forum and go to executive session
for C6, sale of property. And we will

872
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:54,400
not return back to open session.
>> Right. I will make a motion to move to

873
01:04:52,559 --> 01:05:00,720
executive session close to the public
and media under the provisions of the

874
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:07,200
Illinois Open Meetings Act 5 ILCS 120/2
or C6 sale of property and will be

875
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:11,520
leaving from close session and noting
into open session.

876
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:13,760
» Second.
All

877
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:17,760
» in favor?
>> We need roll call.

878
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:20,319
» Trusty Guma.
>> Yes.

879
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,160
Trusty Solder.
>> Yes.

880
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:23,920
» Trusty Saviano.
>> Yes.

881
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,920
» Trusty Kunzie.
>> Yes.

882
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:31,240
» All right. Thanks for coming in.

883
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:36,720
» Yeah. If you got need a minute, go right
ahead.