1 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:10,880 We are live. I would now like to call to order the July 23rd, 2026 committee of 2 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:17,200 the whole meeting. Madame clerk, for the record of this meeting, please show 3 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:24,959 councelor Ley is absent with notice. Item B, uh, are there any declarations 4 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:28,880 of interest from members of council? >> Not seeing, 5 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,839 » right, >> go ahead, please. 6 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,920 » Uh, thanks, Madam Mayor. It relates to um item H3 on the designation of the 7 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,000 heritage property. So, I own a company which owns uh one of the properties 8 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:43,600 being named in one of the heritage designation process groups. And so, to 9 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:46,480 that end, I'm stepping back from H3. Thanks, Madam Mayor. 10 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:52,240 » Thank you very much. Not seeing any others, I will move to 11 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:56,800 item C, the land acknowledgement statement. The town of Equilbury 12 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:00,720 recognizes and acknowledges the lands originally used and occupied by the 13 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:06,000 first peoples of the Williams Treaty First Nation and other indigenous 14 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:10,800 peoples and on behalf of council I thank them for sharing this land. We also 15 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,240 acknowledge the Chipoa of Georgina Island First Nation as East 16 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Quillinberry's closest First Nation community and recognize the unique 17 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:23,600 relationship the Chippoas have with the lands and the waters of this territory. 18 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,519 They are the water protectors and environmental stewards of these lands 19 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,279 and we join them in these responsibilities. 20 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:37,000 We're at item D in the community announcements. Are there any community 21 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,000 announcements from council? 22 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:45,839 I'm not seeing any at this point. I will move to item E and that's deputations. 23 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:52,480 There are no deputations uh at this time. Item F, presentations. None at 24 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:57,200 this time as well. Finance with councelor John's in the chair. 25 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:03,360 » Yeah, thanks Madame Mayor. There is just the uh the one item on the um uh the 26 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:09,120 agenda for today and it is um finance report 2026-08. 27 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:12,720 Uh it's in regard to a um letter of support for a council resolution for 28 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:18,560 support to the province and uh if I could ask Mr. Marshall to lead the 29 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:24,399 discussion on this. >> Thank you through Mr. Chair. So the 30 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:29,040 province has been providing a a grant to municipal to uh 31 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:36,160 uh small rural and northern municipalities for their infrastructure 32 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:40,320 renewal needs since 2015. In 2021, the province doubled the amount that they 33 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:44,880 were providing to municipalities, which was very helpful to all 34 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:49,920 municipalities having issues uh u meeting their infrastru infrastructure 35 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:55,920 renewal needs. So the last year of this commitment was 2026 and so the municipal 36 00:12:53,200 --> 00:13:00,880 finance officers who represent uh the the fin well as the name says they 37 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:05,440 represent the finance officers in all the municipalities 38 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:10,639 um suggested that uh councils reach out to the province and ask for this uh 39 00:13:08,959 --> 00:13:17,760 doubling of the funding to become permanent and uh through a resolution of 40 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:22,480 council. So, this report is looking for committee and council's endorsement of a 41 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:26,639 resolution to request that funding being doubled. 42 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:31,560 » Thank you, Mr. Marshall. Are there any uh questions, comments from uh committee 43 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:31,560 members? 44 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:40,079 I'm seeing none. Uh the resolution is on the screen. I'll just pause for five 45 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:43,079 more seconds in case there's any questions. 46 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Seeing none, can I get a mover? Uh, councelor Roy de Clemente. Thank you 47 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:55,040 very much. Uh, all those in favor? Motion carries. Wonderful. Mr. Marshall, 48 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,839 do you have anything else for committee today? 49 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,680 » Through you, Mr. Chair. Nothing at this time. 50 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:04,000 » And members of committee for Mr. Marshall. 51 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Wonderful. Thank you, uh, Madame Mayor. Back to you. 52 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:12,000 » Thank you very much. We are at item H, development services with councelor Roy 53 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:16,399 G. Kanti and the chairman. >> Uh, thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh we have 54 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:19,680 a couple of items on our agenda today. Uh the first being uh development 55 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,000 services planning branch report DS2026-27 56 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:30,560 which is a zoning bylaw amendment application for 19350 Woodbine Avenue. 57 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Uh and we've got a resolution that we receive the report and that we approve 58 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:39,680 it um with sight spec specific permissions and that we uh ratify this 59 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:44,880 at our meeting later today. May I have a mover please? 60 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:48,240 moved by councelor John's. Mr. Kubnik, would you like to present this or is 61 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:53,519 Miss Fumbakas with us? Oh, I see her on screen. 62 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:58,720 » Thank you very much, Madame Chair. Um, just very, uh, briefly, uh, this 63 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:03,199 application, as the chair indicated, is on Woodbine Avenue and it's located on 64 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:09,199 the west side of Woodbine, south of Don Road and north of Mount Albert, uh, 65 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Road. We're recommending approval of it um from rural to employment, general and 66 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:20,959 environmental protection in order to permit three industrial buildings with 67 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:27,360 accessory office uh uses. The proposal conforms with both the 2010 existing 68 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:32,160 official plan and with council's 2026 proposed official plan which designates 69 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:37,680 the the subject lands as employment and natural heritage. In addition, the lands 70 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:41,839 are also within the Highway 404 employment corridor secondary plan, 71 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:48,560 which also designates these lands for employment purposes. And just as a a bit 72 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:54,160 of a reminder, employment uses permits a broad range of uses, which includes 73 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:58,800 assembling, manufacturing, research and development, uh warehousing, 74 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:03,120 distribution, utilities, and outside storage. 75 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:07,680 In in large part, this corridor is evolving and it's changing from its 76 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:12,639 rural context into what council envisioned and I I do believe this is 77 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:16,959 occurring is a high quality employment area. Uh with respect to this 78 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,320 application um the secondary plan does set a height 79 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:27,279 limit of four stories and to be very specific staff are recommending uh 80 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:32,079 resoning in order to permit a maximum of four stories and a maximum height of 81 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,600 15.25 and the reason for that is floor heights 82 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:44,240 can vary and so we want to be very clear as to what the maximum height would be. 83 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:50,959 Um the application was actually before committee not too long ago. In fact, it 84 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:56,079 was in in front of committee back in um March of of this year and it's been 85 00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:00,639 significantly revised. At that time, the applicant was proposing both ashold and 86 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:05,439 concrete matching and that created concerns both from staff, the 87 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:11,520 surrounding residents and from council. The application's been revised to remove 88 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:17,360 all those uses very quickly and uh now we're dealing with with a standard 89 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:22,160 employment um use. The application has no cons that's been 90 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:27,839 circulated. There's no concerns from any of uh the commenting department or 91 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:33,919 agencies. One of the reasons we're asking for same day ratification and I 92 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:37,840 do believe uh Mr. Mendes or a representative from the race group may 93 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:43,679 be present is that there is a timing issue with respect to a potential um 94 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:47,760 tenant in the property. And so that is one of the reasons we are seeking same 95 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:52,960 day ratification. Anyways, thank you madam chair. I'm happy to answer any 96 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:58,280 questions of members of council. >> Uh thank you Miss Mvakus. Members of 97 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,280 committee any questions? 98 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Uh, councelor Foster, go ahead, please. >> Thanks, Madam Chair. Not a question, but 99 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:11,840 just a comment. I think it's refreshing for us to go through the process of a 100 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:19,360 public meeting and hear some concerns from different people um, and have 101 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:25,200 uh, the developers hear those questions loud and clear and and make the changes 102 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,400 that people were looking for. So, I'm I'm happy to support this moving 103 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:34,080 forward. I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Thank you, councelor. Anyone else? 104 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Go ahead, councelor Cone. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, 105 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:44,880 I [clears throat] I just want to verify uh I understand that the the the truck 106 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:50,080 traffic for this particular development is going to be substantially less than 107 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:58,000 uh our u other other locations down uh south on 108 00:18:53,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Woodbine. Uh I I have I think in my notes 37 trucks per day. Uh can someone 109 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:10,400 on staff or perhaps the applicant could confirm that today? 110 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:15,440 » Um I'm happy to confirm uh councelor Cone through through the chair that my 111 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:22,240 understanding is that there's 15 trucks anticipated in the AM peak and 22 trucks 112 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:27,200 anticipated in the PM peak. And when the traffic impact study was undertaken, it 113 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:32,000 not only looked at this site, but it looked at the broader area to ensure 114 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:36,559 that the truck traffic was within acceptable ranges. 115 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:40,880 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Vakus. Um, my only 116 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:45,520 concern with this one is making sure that we um that the neighbors are 117 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:49,360 treated with respect and that there's some well and foundation monitoring for 118 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:53,200 the neighboring properties. Is that something that is going to happen as a 119 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:56,640 matter of course or is that something we should be building into our resolution 120 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:01,280 today? >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh we will start 121 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:06,559 doing there will be baseline well assessments will be conducted prior to 122 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:11,039 any on-site construction. Uh a hydro geologist is also going to complete 123 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:17,200 assessments and will be doing monitoring for any properties within a 500 meter 124 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:22,320 radius of the proposed development. And there will be also well and foundation 125 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:25,600 monitoring and that will be conducted throughout the construction period for 126 00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:32,480 these properties. >> Happy to hear that. Thank you very much. 127 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:37,039 So uh seeing no further uh uh questions or concerns, I have a motion as 128 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:41,520 presented uh moved by councelor John's. All those in favor? 129 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,880 Opposed? And that motion carries. Thank you. 130 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Uh the next item on our agenda is uh development services planning branch uh 131 00:20:51,120 --> 00:21:00,640 report uh DS26-28 which is a zoning bylaw amendment 132 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:05,919 application for 20366 Lesley Street uh a private club which is the Sharon Masonic 133 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Temple Association. Um, 134 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:16,240 we have a motion uh that we receive the report that we approve the matter in 135 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,480 principle and that the zoning bylaw be brought forward to a future council 136 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:25,039 meeting after the owner has obtained site plan approval and entered into a 137 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:29,120 site plan agreement with the town. May I have a mover, please? Moved by councelor 138 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,799 Chrome. Thank you very much. Miss Bumakus, would you like to present your 139 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:37,200 report to us, please? >> Thank you very much, Madam Chair. 140 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,760 This is a slightly unusual recommendation for committee and council 141 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:47,520 to be considering because usually we bring forward a full recommendation uh 142 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:52,960 whether it be to refuse or approve. In this instance, we're trying to help 143 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:58,480 facilitate moving the application along but we're still require additional 144 00:21:55,919 --> 00:22:05,120 information which we have not received. And so uh I will give one example. The 145 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:10,080 proposal requires a reduction in parking and the applicant has had discussions 146 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:15,840 with the Holland Landing United Church who has indicated that they will allow 147 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:21,120 parking on their property. However, that's an informal arrangement and staff 148 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:26,000 are recommending in order to protect the municipal interest that that be 149 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:30,799 formalized through a a formal agreement with Holland Landing and that be form 150 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:35,760 part of the site plan agreement. We want to ensure that there is sufficient 151 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:42,320 parking for the site available when members are are attending the club 152 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:46,799 meetings. In addition, uh our understanding is that there could be up 153 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:52,880 to 50 attendees, although our understanding is at any given time there 154 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:58,799 may be only 25 members present. And at this point in time, in the absence of uh 155 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:04,320 information with respect to the septics system, we're unable to confirm that the 156 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:09,760 existing septic could handle the load. So again, we're recommending that it be 157 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:14,000 approved in principle, but subject to a site plan being submitted and these 158 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:18,400 matters being addressed. So happy to answer any questions that 159 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:23,200 anybody may have of me. >> Thank you. Members of committee, any 160 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,200 questions? 161 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:30,559 Council Johns, go ahead, please. >> Yeah, thanks, Madam Chair. When I was um 162 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,440 when I was reading the the way that the resolution was um 163 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,880 drafted, I I thought to myself, well, that's pragmatic. And then and then when 164 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:45,760 I was reading it and I was thinking about the reason why it's in principle 165 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:49,200 and not for uh to move forward, but I was looking at the fact that it it has 166 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:58,480 to do with site plan. But the thing is is that we as a a body can't inform site 167 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:04,000 plan. Um previously uh council could comment and inform on site plan. Uh but 168 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:08,720 the province has changed that. So I guess really kind of what I'm thinking 169 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:14,640 is is that if we are improving in principle could we not like given that 170 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:18,559 uh this meeting is we're sitting here in July and then we have one more meeting 171 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:24,159 in September but uh likelihood of this hitting a September uh agenda I don't 172 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:31,520 know that it would be realistic. Is there a way that um that we can approve 173 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:35,919 in principle with the authority going to uh our staff to to finalize once the 174 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:42,159 conditions have been met because we as a body don't we can't comment on site plan 175 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:48,159 anyway and so uh just taking a pragmatic approach if if I don't know if there's 176 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:52,720 any comments towards that if um our our staff wanted to comment on that. 177 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:58,799 » I I think that's what we're trying to do. Councelor John's, but uh I'll ask 178 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Miss Mubakus to to confirm for us. >> Thank you through the chair. Councelor 179 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:07,919 John's, excellent question. Um what we're trying to do is ensure that 180 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:13,760 council has looked at this and considered it and you think it is an 181 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:19,120 acceptable use subject to the site plan agreement. And I I appreciate that you 182 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:25,200 cannot um comment on it, but at the staff level, we can. And the 183 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:29,840 recommendation is saying you can improve this in principle but we won't bring 184 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:34,559 forward the bylaw until these matters have been done. So there's two possible 185 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,120 routes for this. One is that the applicant submits a site plan. This is 186 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:43,679 not a complicated site plan. Uh from the perspective that it is an existing one 187 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,640 and a halfstory building. There are no changes to the exterior except to the 188 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:53,279 driveway and the parking. There'll be changes in the interior, but that's not 189 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:58,799 subject to site plan control. But from a building code perspective, we need to 190 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:04,559 ensure that there's servicing capacity, and we haven't received a site plan from 191 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:09,120 the applicant. So, this enables you to approve it. And there's two scenarios 192 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,760 that I see happening here. If the applicant submits something quickly and 193 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:18,400 and submits the uh assessment, the septic assessment that we're looking 194 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:24,080 for, we could potentially put a bylaw on the September meeting. In the event that 195 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,200 they don't and they need more time, then this matter wouldn't need to be 196 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:33,279 reconsidered. We would just put the bylaw forward to the uh December meeting 197 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:37,039 of council. So in in many respects, we're trying to give them the indication 198 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:42,480 that you're supportive of it, but they need to do work. 199 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,080 » Thank you, Miss Mvakus. I I I know I don't think that time is as of a huge 200 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,799 essence here because we've been dealing with this file for a number of years, if 201 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,960 I'm not mistaken. So, uh, if we get this right, then it's just the next step in 202 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:58,960 this process. Councelor Cone, this is your motion. I'm wondering whether it 203 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:04,559 might be appropriate for us to add in that into that second clause that uh 204 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:09,039 council approve in principle subject to an approved site plan application and 205 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:13,440 associated agreement as well as a formal shared parking agreement included as 206 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:17,679 appendix 4 to reszone the land so that we put it right into the resolution. 207 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:22,799 » I'm I'm happy to support anything that will move this thing along. I I think 208 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:27,200 it's been we've been at it for a few years now and I think we need to get her 209 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:29,760 done. So what whatever it takes I'm I'm happy to support. 210 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:33,679 » Does that help address your question? Councelor John's go ahead. 211 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:38,640 » Thanks Madam Chair and I think that that is that is good insight. So just to 212 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,960 clarify for my ignorance. So your wording uh within the resolution 213 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:49,120 wouldn't mean that the applicant would need to come back. uh it would be 214 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:52,720 approved based on uh the um uh I'm getting a nod anyway. So, we're good. 215 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,440 » So, so the the point is that we're saying we're okay with reszoning this to 216 00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:02,720 a sightsp specific zoning to allow this particular land use and staff are going 217 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:07,600 to go back and work with the applicant to get the the parking agreement and the 218 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,000 site plan and the parking and all of that sorted out. And once that's been 219 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:16,159 sorted out, the zoning bylaw will be brought to us for adoption to this chair 220 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:22,720 to this body for adoption. And whether that's later or or sooner, that's up to 221 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:28,640 the applicant and staff. >> And then in in followup to that, uh 222 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,080 given that time is of the essence, is there and we are at the meeting, do we 223 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:35,960 need any type of resolution that would need to be ratified tonight? 224 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:44,559 Miss Mbachus, what do you think? >> Ratification. 225 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:49,039 » I would suggest you do that and that way the applicant has the assurance that 226 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:54,159 that council is approving it in principle and it certainly sends a 227 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:58,720 message saying please submit your site plan because staff will work with them 228 00:28:56,399 --> 00:29:02,799 very quickly to try and resolve this matter. I certainly don't want council 229 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,399 having approved something in principle and it's dragging on for two years. My 230 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:10,720 goal would be that the applicant responds quickly and certainly staff 231 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:15,520 will will address these matters. >> Okay. So, it looks like uh councelor 232 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:19,679 Cone would like to add a clause for same day ratification into this into this 233 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:25,600 resolution. Madame clerk, I've sent you the um proposed wording for clause two. 234 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:30,720 And then I'm just I guess we'll just pause while you work your magic on 235 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:34,080 screen. >> Sorry, one more followup question while 236 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:39,360 we're doing that. Um, Madam Chair, you made the comment uh about uh time being 237 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:43,600 of the essence and and and may or may not be required. I'm 238 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,320 wondering if I I do see the applicant sitting in the audience. Is there could 239 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,799 I get clarity uh through you, Madam Chair, just on the the timing of this of 240 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:56,120 versus getting this done for September versus December? 241 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:06,720 I I don't know if we're in a position to staff. Do you I think it what it comes 242 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:10,640 down to is it's up to the applicant to provide staff with this information that 243 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:18,799 they've asked for. >> It just if I may add uh uh you are quite 244 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:23,440 correct uh councilor Roy de Clemente, we don't have a site plan application. We 245 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:30,080 need one so that we can take the next steps. So, so really the it's up to the 246 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:35,331 applicant to make to take the next step so that we can advance this. 247 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,320 If they don't submit a site plan, in [clears throat] essence, what's what 248 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:44,000 will happen is we will never bring forward a resoning application or 249 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:47,000 resoning uh bill in order for council to enact 250 00:30:53,520 --> 00:31:01,360 We're just waiting for madame clerk to three. Madam chair, we are going to 251 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,080 share those changes on the screen momentarily. Just wanted to make sure 252 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:13,559 that there are no changes to the u third clause. Uh and we're keeping it as is. 253 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,559 Yes. 254 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:22,960 Members of committee, you've seen uh the motion on the screen. You've understand 255 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:28,880 the intent of the motion. It's moved by councelor Cone. Any further discussion? 256 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:34,880 Seeing none, all those in favor? And that motion carries. Thank you. Thank 257 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:40,000 you, staff. And uh the last item on our agenda is development services planning 258 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,600 branch report DS26-29, notice of intention to designate 259 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:49,600 properties located within the Lesley Street corridor and rural areas. I feel 260 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:55,200 like of a bit of a case of deja vu since we dealt with two similar matters um 261 00:31:52,960 --> 00:32:02,159 earlier this week. I'm just going to pause and see if Miss Muvakus, would you 262 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:06,480 care to present your um report to us today? Sorry, we just got a bit of 263 00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:10,320 disruption as people are deciding that they don't want to hear the riveting 264 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:15,559 rest of our meeting. Maybe they're just going to their car to 265 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,559 go watch it on their phones. 266 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,799 Go ahead, Miss Mubakis. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, I I will be 267 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:27,519 very brief in my remarks because I know my commentary from the other day, I'm 268 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:34,399 sure, is fresh in everyone's mind. This is a report that's recommending that 269 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:40,159 council indicate its notice of intention to designate properties within the 270 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:46,399 Leslie Street corridor and rural areas. Um the report recommends four properties 271 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:53,120 along Leslie Street and six properties within the rural areas receive notices 272 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:58,000 of intention to designate. Um similar I will I will highlight because I'm 273 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:02,480 anticipating a question that we did receive two letters of objection. We 274 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:10,880 received a letter of objection from the owner of 19463 Leslie Street and 21689 275 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:16,399 Kennedy Road. So, one within Leslie Street, one within the rural areas, both 276 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:21,360 uh indicating they objected to any action by council to take the next steps 277 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:26,640 of issuing the notice of intention to designate. So, I'm now in the hands of 278 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:31,120 council as to what direction you would like to take. 279 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:34,480 » Uh, thank you, Miss Mvakus. Um, councelor Foster, I'm assuming since 280 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,799 you've made the other two res the other two motions that you would like to move 281 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,880 this as well. >> Absolutely. 282 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,840 » Okay. Yes. All right. So, this has been moved by uh councelor Foster. Any 283 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,960 discussion on the motion? >> Go ahead. Uh, councelor Kurthers. Oh, 284 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,159 before you speak, I just want to make sure that we note for the record that 285 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,799 councelor John's has declared an interest in this and has vacated his 286 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:57,600 seat at the dis. Thank you. Go ahead, councelor Kathers. 287 00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:04,399 » Thank you. [clears throat] Um on June 2nd when the first batch of 288 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:10,879 uh potential designations came before us at committee committee um 289 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:15,520 approved a motion to fac that staff would facilitate consultation with the 290 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:24,879 impact of property owners and I wanted to get an idea of what that entailed and 291 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:30,879 uh how that came how that unfolded. >> Okay. Um Miss Vakas go ahead. Yep. Thank 292 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:37,040 you very much through the chair. We sent out letters to all of the property 293 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:41,200 owners in all of the groups explaining what the notice of intention to 294 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:46,879 designate meant. It explained the process and it also offered the 295 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:52,159 opportunity for any property owner to speak to staff. 296 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:57,040 With respect to that, we did have AC I'm I'm not speaking with specifically with 297 00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:02,800 this grouping, but across the board, we did have a number of individuals who 298 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:09,359 reached out who had their questions responded to. Some of those individuals 299 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:14,240 did not uh submit any letters in support or opposition. 300 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:18,560 um they've just remained silent and I suspect that in that instance some of 301 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:24,480 the individuals are waiting for the process as it normally would unfold for 302 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:30,400 council to issue notices of intention to designate. I do want to highlight that 303 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:35,280 we were concerned about making sure that individuals did receive the letters. So 304 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:40,400 we sent all the correspondents by registered mail. I can tell you that in 305 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,560 some instances those letters were not picked up. In others, we've just not 306 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:50,320 heard from the individuals. And as I said, in some instances, people objected 307 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:54,480 and in others they just uh followed up with staff and had their queries 308 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,640 answered. >> Thank you very much for that. Um, of the 309 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:05,119 registered letters, how many were not picked up? 310 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:10,640 » Um, I'm going to ask Mr. Krebnuk to answer that but I think the I think it 311 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,480 was approximately five Mr. Krebin am I correct on that? 312 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:20,160 uh through you madam chair uh that is the number the total I have as well five 313 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,280 » was there any followup on that uh the the letters that that weren't picked up 314 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:28,640 was there any followup because the the motion was very clear that um staff were 315 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:33,200 to facilitate consultation so when when the letter isn't even received um what 316 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:36,200 what's the next step in facilitating consultation 317 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:45,040 » through you madam ch through you madam chair that's very difficult to respond 318 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:50,720 to registered letters. One would hope that the individuals pick them up. We 319 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:57,760 cannot um we're not about to go doortodoor. We do not have the staff 320 00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:03,040 capacity to do that. Um my intention is should council and in in terms of your 321 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:09,200 decision making the other night, we will again send registered letters out to the 322 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:14,320 individuals. We are also proposing to offer a meeting not with individuals. We 323 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:20,320 don't have the capacity but between now and September and our hope is to do this 324 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:26,480 in the next uh 3 to four weeks is to engage uh with members uh recipients of 325 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,960 the letters to have their questions answered. So we're trying to target that 326 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:35,599 for the third week in August. I know that's not ideal, but at this sta stage, 327 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:40,560 there's no ideal date between now and the September meeting of council. 328 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:44,560 » Th Thank you very much. Um I would hope that as we get into this next stage, the 329 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,839 people who have not responded and not picked up the registered letter that if 330 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,520 there's only five of them, I would think we have the capacity to go and knock on 331 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,680 their door. I think this is very significant for these people. And when I 332 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:59,426 hear back from residents that say, "I never got a letter." It it worries me 333 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,800 greatly because I was under [clears throat] the impression that that 334 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,680 more of an effort would be made to facilitate uh the consultation with them 335 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:10,880 after we passed that motion back uh six or seven weeks ago. Uh so I'm 336 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:15,200 disappointed to hear from residents that that they haven't been contacted. I just 337 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,359 want to ensure that simply sending a registered letter is not enough that 338 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:24,880 that we're going to need to make sure ensure that everyone understands as we 339 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:29,440 move forward into this next um step of the process. everyone whose house is on 340 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,720 this list understands what what's happening. Thank you. 341 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:38,160 » Thank you, councelor Kthers. I can also share with you personally that uh while 342 00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:43,119 we did get one I saw an email come through uh my town email that said I 343 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:48,160 didn't get a letter and I know that I personally handd delivered a letter to 344 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,680 that address. So, uh I didn't get a letter doesn't necessarily mean they 345 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:55,359 didn't get a letter. It's just that they didn't engage with the process or didn't 346 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,440 read it. So that's that's another challenge too. 347 00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:00,240 » Yeah, I I appreciate that and that's why I think we need to make sure that we do 348 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:04,079 that next step. I don't want someone coming back later and saying I didn't 349 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,200 receive the letter. So if we can say the letter was handd delivered, then that 350 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,079 would be great. Thank you. and sent by registered mail. 351 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,880 » And and if I could just add, we did have that 352 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:20,160 » um through you, Madam Chair, we did post it on the website and we did post 353 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:27,520 information with respect to to the notices of intention to designate on um 354 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:32,240 EG connects. So we we've done quite a bit uh obviously not to the satisfaction 355 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:37,119 of all, but we certainly have reached out and this is the start of the 356 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:40,880 process. It's usually engagement happens after council issues the intention to 357 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:44,640 designate. >> Thank you. Any other questions? 358 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:48,960 Councelor Cone, go ahead, please. >> Thank you, Madam Chair, and through you 359 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:54,240 to staff. Uh I want to thank you for taking the steps of uh employing 360 00:39:51,920 --> 00:40:00,079 registered male. I think I think I had hinted that doing that. So I thank you 361 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:04,400 for hearing me. Uh and it is I will say it's a challenge. I even know from my 362 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:09,520 private sector days when we sent out uh registered mail, not everyone answered 363 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:14,960 them. Uh but it's sat it satisfied a statutory condition that we needed. So 364 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,720 um just you know it's a challenge all marketers have just when you think 365 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:26,960 you've communicated enough you have to communicate more. So, uh in keeping with 366 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:35,599 uh my uh my trend from yesterday or from Tuesday, uh the the two 367 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:43,040 uh uh property owners that uh objected to their uh designation 368 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:48,320 uh D and H, that's at 19463 Lesley Street and 21689 Kennedy Road. I would 369 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:54,520 recommend that we uh we strike them from the list and uh and leave the others 370 00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:03,599 as well. Could staff confirm I had a a property owner for 18611 371 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:07,200 Lesley Street. Wanted to make sure that their name wasn't on the list, but I 372 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:12,240 don't see it on the list. So, I just want to make sure there's no been no 373 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,160 omission there. >> Mr. Mr. Kubnick or Miss Miss 374 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:23,400 » Makis through you, Madam Chair. I do not see that address um on the list here as 375 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,400 well for Leslie. 186 376 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960 » 611 >> 18611. 377 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,079 » So, all right. >> I do not see that. Thank you. 378 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,440 » They can rest. They can rest easy. >> They may be part of the Heritage 379 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,800 Conservation District. They would be in the HCD and not necessarily on the list 380 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,480 for designations. Got >> through you, Madam Mayor. That could be 381 00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:43,440 a possibility. >> That makes sense. Okay. Thank you. All 382 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,920 right. That's it for me. Uh, Madam Chair. 383 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,079 » Councelor Foster. >> Thanks, Madam Chair. I I had uh quite a 384 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:54,960 bit to say about this on Tuesday, and I'm I'm not going to um repeat 385 00:41:53,119 --> 00:42:03,920 everything that that I went through on Tuesday, but I think council needs to be 386 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:08,319 cautioned about taking um properties off these lists without going through the 387 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:15,839 proper appeal process. we are circumventing the Ontario Heritage Act 388 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:21,920 um by doing what we're doing. I I don't think that's the best thing to do and I 389 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:26,640 and I I can use 1982 Young Street and Holland Landing as a good example of 390 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:31,200 that. That was the site of the upper landing that dates back hundreds of 391 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:36,400 years. um without going through the proper 392 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:41,280 appeal process. We have no idea if the owner of that property simply sent a 393 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:46,640 letter in saying, "I don't want to be on the list." We have no idea that they 394 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:52,160 know what they're actually sitting on. Um have they had the opportunity to read 395 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:55,440 through the consultant's report? You've got a report here where that particular 396 00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:02,720 property meets five of the nine criteria. There's history to galore 397 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:07,040 about that property. Um, and I if if there's a if there's a shining example 398 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:14,960 of one that needs to go through the process, it's that one. And and I dare 399 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:21,520 say that, you know, this council and and the town and and our management uh and 400 00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:26,079 staff have been drugged through the mud about another piece of property that we 401 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:32,079 simply did not know about. This piece of property we do know about 402 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:37,040 and by what we did on Tuesday, we've turned our back on giving that piece of 403 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:41,839 property any heritage protection at all depending on how the the uh the whole 404 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:46,960 process works out. So, I think that needs to be looked at. Uh I I may want 405 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:53,760 to speak to this uh in tonight's meeting. Um and and just to end off, one 406 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:58,079 of our heritage committee members sent me an email 407 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:04,319 and and mentioned that, you know, maybe council's not looking at the big 408 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:08,800 picture. And her words were, uh, yes, we look back at a century or two, 409 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:14,480 but we also have to look ahead. The houses that are being built today uh are 410 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:18,240 not built to last, and they won't. These houses stood the test of time for 411 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:22,240 a reason, and our built heritage will be gone altogether if residential 412 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,560 properties are not preserved, as well as landscape and institutional buildings. 413 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,520 I thought that kind of summed everything up very well and it was worth saying. 414 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:38,720 So, uh, I'll I'll leave it at that. If we strike, uh, the two off this list, I 415 00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:43,520 will still vote to work on on the remainder. Uh, so I I don't want it 416 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,839 looking like I'm going both ways here, but uh, I I just want to make sure that 417 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,599 a couple of those things were said and and maybe we talk about it later 418 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:56,319 tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councelor Foster. I do note 419 00:44:53,839 --> 00:45:01,920 that Ms. Crosby is also on the line and she's uh she's done quite a bit of work 420 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:05,040 for us on these files. Um I had heard it from somewhere and it may have been Miss 421 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:11,920 Mumvakus who said this to me, but I heard somewhere that it was unusual for 422 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:16,319 a property to to meet uh I think it was two or three. Anything more than three 423 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:20,480 of those nine criteria meant that it was a pretty exceptional property. Can can 424 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:24,800 you uh if you wouldn't mind, Miss Crosby commenting a little bit more on those 425 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:31,920 nine criteria and and how often properties meet those criteria? 426 00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:37,440 » Yes, absolutely. Um, as most you have heard in preamles in various meetings 427 00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:44,640 that we've had, uh, the her Ontario Heritage Act has um, nine 428 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:49,599 criteria that any individual property has to meet uh, to make a designation. 429 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:54,560 So, it's not just a listing. We all know that uh, a lot a lot we have a lot of 430 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:59,200 buildings uh, and properties on listing. It's easy to get on a list. Uh, not so 431 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:04,560 easy to get considered for designation. and you have to prove that you meet uh 432 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:11,119 at least two of the nine criteria and the way the criteria is set up is uh the 433 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:16,079 first three are directly related to um the architecture. So how rare is the 434 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:20,880 building? How unique is the building? Does it have design value? Uh does it 435 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:24,560 have high craftsmanship for example? Um and then does it demonstrate a high 436 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,720 degree of technical or scientific achievement? Uh not all properties would 437 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:34,400 get that. The second section is a historical section. It has three uh 438 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:40,560 criteria. Uh the first one is it has direct associations with a theme, event, 439 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:45,520 belief, person, activity or organization that is significant to the community. Uh 440 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:50,560 the fifth one is the property does it have historical value or his associative 441 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:54,400 value because it yields or has the potential to yield information that 442 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:59,599 contributes to an understanding of a community or culture. And the sixth one 443 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:03,200 is the property has historical value or associative value because it 444 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:08,880 demonstrates or reflects the work or ideas of an architect, a builder, an 445 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:14,560 artist, a designer or theorist who is significant to the community. And the 446 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:20,000 last three speak to contextual value of a property. So it could talk about 447 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:26,160 number seven would be it the property is important in defining or maintaining or 448 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:30,800 supporting a character of the area. It could be that uh it has contextual value 449 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:36,079 because it is physically functioning functionally visually or historically 450 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:40,880 linked to its surroundings. And the last one is is the property um does it have 451 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:46,640 contextual value because it's a landmark. Um, 452 00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:51,520 I would say once you have checked, in my experience, three and up, um, you're 453 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:56,720 starting to get into a region of a property being, um, uh, pretty 454 00:47:54,079 --> 00:48:03,440 important. Uh, if we go back to the counselor's property that he talked 455 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:09,920 about at 1982 Young Street, for example, the one at um, the upper landing, that 456 00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:14,480 checked five of the criteria. And to look at that property uh at first glance 457 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:19,440 you think well it's not much but it did check the architectural style because it 458 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:26,800 is an early example we suspect that it's a log building underneath that so it's 459 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:33,359 very early it's 1817 and that um in you know in this part of uh this part of the 460 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:38,319 province is early very early um it was heavily significant in terms of the 461 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:41,839 historical section I'm going I'm going to interrupt you 462 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:46,960 because I I'm concerned that we are diverting from a matter that's not on 463 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:52,240 our agenda. Um and and I I I just was hoping to get an understanding from you 464 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:58,559 about how unusual it was. Uh you basically to paraphrase in order to be 465 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:04,640 designated you need two you need to have two criteria and meeting 466 00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:08,640 three or more means it's an it's in your opinion an exceptional property. 467 00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:13,359 Yes, I would agree with that. >> Thank you very much. I uh I will reserve 468 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:18,000 um our conversation. It sounds like we're going to be having some 469 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:21,040 conversation about uh 1982 Young Street later today and that's and 470 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,880 that's fine, but I want to make sure that I keep us to what's on our agenda 471 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:31,839 and the list of properties before us. So, at this point, I have a motion um as 472 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:35,880 presented from uh Councelor Foster. Any other discussion on the motion? 473 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:43,200 Councelor Cone, go ahead. >> Madam Chair, you were uh I had 474 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:47,200 recommended the deletion of two. >> You had recommended it, but didn't move 475 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:51,200 an amendment. >> Oh, we're going to be like that. Uh I 476 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,319 would like to make an amendment that we delete those two. 477 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:56,880 » Councelor, I I have a reputation for being a stickler for the rules. 478 00:49:56,004 --> 00:50:02,559 [laughter] All right. We have a motion to amend the 479 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:09,760 uh the resolution in front of us. Any discussion on the motion to remove uh 1 480 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:16,040 19463 Lesley Street and 21689 Kennedy Street from the list, Kennedy Road. Any 481 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,040 discussion? 482 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:25,400 So that's I'm going to call the vote. All those in favor? 483 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,400 Opposed? 484 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:34,640 That motion fails. Madame Mary, you did not vote. Did you how in I'm sorry. Can 485 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:38,640 you please clarify? I did not see which way you voted. Did you vote to amend the 486 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:41,359 resolution to remove the the properties or did you wish to keep those two 487 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:44,960 properties? >> Keep those two. Please 488 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:49,119 » keep them on the list. Okay. So to amend fails. So we're back to our original 489 00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:54,160 amendment. So we're back to the original 490 00:50:50,559 --> 00:51:00,240 resolution. So the list is intact. All those in favor? 491 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:04,319 Opposed. And that motion carries. Thank you. 492 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,400 That brings us to the end of our prepared agenda. Miss uh Miss Vumvakus, 493 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,839 do you have anything further to add at this time? 494 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,920 » No. Thank you very much, chair, for asking. 495 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,559 » Thank you. And I want to thank Miss Crosby as well uh for being with us 496 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:21,599 today and for for her support in the the meeting as well. Uh members of 497 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,200 committee, anything further to raise under this area? 498 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,680 Seeing none, I'll turn the chair back to you, Madame Mayor. Uh and I'll just 499 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:37,319 pause so that uh councelor Johns can return to his seat on the deis. Thank 500 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,319 you. Thank you very much. Just 501 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:45,040 just having a look at our agenda at this point. Uh L engineering and public works 502 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:51,040 with councelor Roy D. Clemente in the chair in the absence of councelor Ley. 503 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:57,839 » Uh thank you madame mayor. I'm happy to chair this portion of our CWC agenda. We 504 00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:04,880 have uh three uh items on our prepared agenda. Um mostly just here for receipt. 505 00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:08,160 Yes, they are. Uh so the first item is engineering and public works memorandum 506 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:13,359 regarding a drinking water quality improvement partnership update. Uh 507 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:18,160 that's quite a mouthful. Um I see that Mr. Megot is here uh in lie of Mr. 508 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:22,400 Molineri. Did you want to present this? But before I ask you to do that, may I 509 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:26,720 have a mover to receive please? moved by councelor Foster. Mr. Megot, would you 510 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,640 like to present this, please? >> Thank you through uh you, Madam Chair. I 511 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,720 want to reiterate to council and the public that the town's drinking water is 512 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,960 safe. It's robustly monitored and tested. Staff continue to be active and 513 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:42,720 engaged participants in the multi-year cooperative study with the region, our 514 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:47,280 consultants, and leading industry experts to assess a aesthetic water 515 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:52,000 issues. And the results of the study are targeted for completion in 2028. One of 516 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:56,559 the outcomes of this source totap approach will be a cost sharing analysis 517 00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:00,559 for ongoing required flushing performed by the town to maintain acceptable water 518 00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:04,319 quality following municipal best practices. I would also like to add that 519 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:09,119 we're very pleased that most recently we were recognized by the MECP and obtained 520 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,520 a 100% audit score for a water quality management system. And I welcome any 521 00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:18,400 questions. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Meet. Um, any questions 522 00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:23,520 from members of committee? Madame Mayor, I see your microphone is on. Would you 523 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:26,400 » I was agreeing with our Thank you very much. It was good to 524 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:31,200 hear. Thank you. >> Okay. Any other questions on this 525 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,960 matter? >> Mr. Megan, I did want to reiterate I I 526 00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:38,400 know staff have been working really hard. I would be remiss whenever 527 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:42,640 drinking water doesn't comes in it comes up in the chamber that I bring up the 528 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:49,280 issue of iron and manganesees uh in the regional wells and and while uh it is 529 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:54,960 100% safe it is an aesthetic issue that our residents comment on regularly we've 530 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:59,280 got we've got some significant the more houses we build the more complaints we 531 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:03,599 get and so I just wanted to reiterate I know that you and and have been working 532 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:07,599 with the region on on advancing uh the need for addition additional filtration 533 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:12,400 at the regional wells and I just wanted to ask if you've made any progress 534 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:16,319 » through you madam chair. Yes we have. The region has uh acknowledged that uh 535 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:20,000 they'd like to come to council to make a presentation on how they're going to 536 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,559 enhance the removal of manganesees and iron and that's going to happen in the 537 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,800 new year. >> Great. Thank you. Thank you for that 538 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,640 update. Uh seeing no further questions, I've got a motion moved by councelor 539 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:34,720 Foster that we receive the update from engineering and public works. All those 540 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:39,040 in favor? And that motion carries. Thank you. Uh the next item is engineering and 541 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:44,000 public works memorandum regarding the LED street light conversion strategy. 542 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:47,280 May I have a mover to receive this? Moved by councelor Chrome. Thank you 543 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,800 very much. Mr. Meet, would you like to present this one to us, please? 544 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,520 » Thank you, Madam Chair. There's I'm sure there's a joke here about how long it 545 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,960 takes to change light bulb, but I'm not going to go into that. 546 00:54:54,319 --> 00:55:00,160 » You can absolutely go there. [laughter] >> Although this initiative has been 547 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,880 lengthy, a number of milestones have been recently achieved and are 548 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:09,119 highlighted within the context of the report. It's worth noting that of the 549 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:13,680 town's 4,000 street lights, 40% or 1500 are LED currently and they're focused in 550 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:18,240 new development areas as they meet the current design standards. The remaining 551 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:23,040 2500 legacy street lights are to be updated as part of this LED enhancement 552 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:28,160 program, including the rehabilitation of 800 poles that we've performed this 553 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:31,839 year. So, we've we've been busy. Um, our approach is to extend the life of our 554 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:35,839 legacy street light assets at minimal costs and be shovel ready for 555 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:40,559 cost-effective opportunities to advance LED conversion such as grants or 556 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:47,240 alignment with other capital programs. I would welcome any questions. Thank you. 557 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:47,240 » Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Megot? 558 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:55,599 » Well done. All those in favor? 559 00:55:52,799 --> 00:56:00,000 That motion carries. Thank you. Um, the last item on our prepared agenda is 560 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:06,559 another memorandum regarding the 2025 annual Phil site alteration program 561 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:10,640 update. May I have a mover, please? Councelor Cone. Thank you. 562 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,319 Go ahead. >> Thank you, if I may. Thank you, Madam 563 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:18,400 Chair. This annual memo is provided for council's awareness of ongoing site 564 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,480 alterations uh for monitoring and operations within the town. Currently, 565 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,839 the only large-scale operation for Phil is the Mount Albert Pit, which is 566 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:29,680 current which the current owner has indicated will be closing, and it's 567 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:34,960 expected that final grading will be completed in 2027. They're almost at 568 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:39,680 capacity right now. Staff remain diligent in responding to all site oper 569 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:45,200 alteration concerns and in 25 investigated a total of 28 sites, 11 in 570 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:49,119 conjunction with the LSRCA. We also want to thank the cooperation of bylaw 571 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:54,079 services and YRP for their continued support and ongoing assistance for this 572 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,599 uh ongoing concern. Uh thank you and I welcome any questions. 573 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,880 » Thank you Mr. Megot. Any questions for him on commercial phil? Go ahead 574 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:06,400 councelor Chrome. >> Thank you Madam Chair and through you 575 00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:17,119 too Mr. Megot. Um, I'm looking at a page three of your uh your report and um 576 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:21,359 specifically the the uh the row uh listed under sites investigated for 577 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:30,880 non-compliance by town staff. So last year we had 28 sites. Now, just help for 578 00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:38,559 clarity, are those sites um are those 28 individual sites or could that be maybe 579 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:44,160 a repetition of certain sites and that's in that goes into the 28 number? 580 00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:47,839 » Mr. Megot. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, those could 581 00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:52,079 be continuation of sites that were carried over from from the previous 582 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:56,720 year, but they are 28 unique sites throughout the town. But yes, it could 583 00:57:54,079 --> 00:58:00,160 be a repeat from the previous year. >> Okay, that Yeah, I appreciate that 584 00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:06,480 through your >> Sorry, it was a bit confusing. 585 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:11,280 Are they the same at There's 28 sites. Those 28 sites are unique addresses. So, 586 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:17,119 we might be visiting them three and four times, but they're still only 28 sites. 587 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,880 » That is correct. >> Appreciate the clarification. 588 00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:23,200 » Thank you. >> Um, 589 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:28,559 that's a When you when you look at we have last 590 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:36,799 year we had one active permit and then we have 28 591 00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:41,200 sites going on where it's being illegal. That tells you how how important 592 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:46,240 enforcement is. There's a there there's a message in 593 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:51,839 here for everyone. So, uh I appreciate you sharing this information. Um, I 594 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:56,160 think it's good uh good reading and uh we have to do everything we can to make 595 00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:01,280 sure we can I think you know recent updates to our our bylaws certainly help 596 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:05,920 with enforcement. So I hope we can see this number go down in the future. Thank 597 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:10,240 you, Madam Chair. That's it for me. >> Thank you. It it also doesn't include 598 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:15,680 the work that the LSRCA is doing on enforcement on on files that involve uh 599 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:20,640 the wetland lands as well. And so it actually the scope of the problem is 600 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:24,160 actually pun intended a lot deeper. Um so uh thank you for your comments 601 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:28,960 councelor Cone and it and it's an it's an important reminder for everyone um 602 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:32,720 that there there's a reason why we need to have those rules to be followed. So I 603 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,799 have a motion that we receive the update. Any further comments or 604 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:40,319 questions? Seeing none. All those in favor? That motion carries. Thank you 605 00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:43,119 very much. That's the end of the prepared agenda. Mr. Mega, did you have 606 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,440 anything further to add? >> I know nothing at this time. Thank you, 607 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:52,440 members of committee. Anything further? Seeing none, I'll turn the chair back to 608 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,440 you, Madame Mayor. 609 00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:02,240 » Thank you very much. Um I'm looking at um item J, Parks, Recreation, and 610 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:06,400 Culture with Councelor Cron in the chair. 611 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:10,640 » Thank you, Madam Mayor. We have one item on the agenda today, and it's the parks, 612 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:17,200 recreation, and culture memo, parks, capital, and new development project 613 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:20,720 update. And uh we have uh Mr. Misada uh sitting in for us today. Uh Mr. Misada, 614 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,920 would you like to uh take us through this please? 615 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:28,319 » Great. Thank you. Through you uh Mr. Chair. Uh the memorandum in front of 616 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:32,160 council provides updates on six park and 12 facility projects that are either 617 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:37,119 currently underway, scheduled to commence or anticipated to be completed 618 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:41,359 in 2026. These projects represent the town's ongoing investment in enhancing 619 01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:45,280 parks, recreational amenities, and municipal facilities to meet needs of 620 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:50,480 the community and support council's strategic priorities. 621 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:54,160 I'd like to note since this memorandum was prepared, I am pleased to share that 622 01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:57,839 the first project on the list, the Health and Active Living Park, 623 01:00:55,839 --> 01:01:03,359 officially opened to the public two weeks ago. I had the opportunity to be 624 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:08,240 at the park uh for the soft opening and it was inspiring to see it full of life. 625 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,440 Seeing the park being used exactly as it was envisioned is a reminder of the 626 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:16,480 value these investments bring to our community. I welcome any questions or 627 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:20,160 comments. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Bada. Uh before we go 628 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:24,000 into questions, can I have a mover for this, please? Moved by councelor 629 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:28,640 Kurthers. All right. Any questions or comments 630 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:33,280 from committee? Councelor Kthers, 631 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:39,119 » thank you. Um, and it goes without saying, great work on on all of these uh 632 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:43,440 projects. Um, I'm very excited about Soldiers Bay uh boardwalk. It'll be the 633 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:49,359 I think the first time that we have uh public space that allows residents to 634 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:53,280 access uh the water. So, uh it's it'll be unique and I'm looking forward to the 635 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,880 opening. When do we think that we'll have a ribbon cutting on that one? 636 01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:02,000 » Mr. Mazado. >> Through you, Mr. chair. Uh we are 637 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:06,480 anticipating late in the year uh the project will be done. Uh so following 638 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:11,440 that we'd have to establish if we can do a ribbon cutting uh most likely in 639 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:15,280 colder weather. Um I would suggest that uh it might happen uh in the spring when 640 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,480 the weather is a little bit warmer. >> So it'll be open though for residents to 641 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:21,280 use later in the fall. >> Correct. 642 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:24,400 » Wonderful. Thank you. >> Thank you. Councelor Foster, you have a 643 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:29,040 question. >> Thank you. Um 644 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:35,920 to go a little further on the Soldiers Bay uh uh project there. Being a person 645 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:39,440 that spent a lot of time on the river uh and on that bay in the wintertime on a 646 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,319 snowmobile, I I'm hoping that we're going to make 647 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,799 sure that there's lots of lighting there. There's reflectors on that 648 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:51,440 lookout pier uh so we don't have snowmobiles coming down there and and 649 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:55,280 having an issue. I know that in the past um it's very easy if you're not sure 650 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,640 where you're going to end up on the bay rather than follow the river to the 651 01:02:56,799 --> 01:03:02,319 south. So we want to make sure where those people are. This report is great 652 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:06,240 news. Everything that we've looked at here is great news. The the other 653 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:11,200 question I had was I have heard from some residents and I think councelor 654 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:16,720 Kthers has too um about the pickle ball courts in Anchor Park and the slight 655 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:21,280 disruption to the BMX bike track that was there. I think we lost a couple of 656 01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:25,200 uh of stations, I guess you could call them there. Are we doing anything about 657 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:30,319 restoring that or are we going to change or is there do we have any idea how 658 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,599 often that is actually used? >> Mr. Mazado 659 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:38,880 » through you, Mr. Chair. Uh we have seen a decrease in use related to the BMX 660 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:44,559 park. Uh two of the events that were in line with the uh BMX track or the I 661 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:49,440 guess the the circuit uh they were removed. uh they are being looked at in 662 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:55,039 terms of reestablishing them within the open space uh and uh there is room to do 663 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:59,280 it. So it was uh it was a decision to that was made to facilitate the pickle 664 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:03,559 ball courts uh and we will look into ensuring that they are replaced. 665 01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:11,280 » Okay. Any other questions? Well, councelor Kthers, 666 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:17,680 » and do you have a uh sort of some timing on when that might be um those those 667 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:22,799 extra stations put back? >> Uh yep. Uh through you, Mr. Chair. We 668 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,760 are looking at by the pickle ball courts are actually almost completed. Uh we're 669 01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,319 looking by the end of the year as well as looking at reestablishing those 670 01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:31,920 features. >> Thank you. 671 01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:38,319 » Okay, last call for questions. 672 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:43,599 Okay. All those in favor and that is carried. Uh Mr. Mazada, do 673 01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:47,039 you have anything for committee? >> None at this time. Thank you. 674 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,119 » Uh does committee have anything they 675 01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:54,720 anything else they'd like to ask Mr. Mazado? 676 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:58,200 See none. I will pass the chair back to you, Madam Mayor. 677 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:09,200 » Thank you very much. There are no items listed on the prepared agenda under K 678 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:13,640 through zero. Are there any updates uh to share from members of council? 679 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:23,440 Seeing none, we will move to P item P adjournment. 680 01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:30,000 And if I could have a mover and a second. Thank you. Seconder. 681 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:33,720 All those in favor. And that's carried. Thank you very much.