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Yes. Uh just while we wait for staff to
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Eli.
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» All right. Good evening everyone and
welcome. Um just a note that this

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meeting will be recorded and livereamed
excluding any inc camera topics. First

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order of business I'll call the meeting
to order and begin with our historical

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acknowledgement. I would like to begin
by acknowledging that we are in Migmagi

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in the district of Sebagani, the
ancestral territory of the Migma people.

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East Hance further acknowledges the 50
African Nova Scotian communities whose

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400year history have contributed to the
province's culture, history, and

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legacies. We are all treaty people.
We'll now have a moment of silent

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contemplation.

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Next, we'll set the t date and time for
next council meetings, which will be the

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regular meeting of council for policy
and in camera, which will be September

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the 15, 2026, and the regular meeting of
council, which will be September the

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23rd, 2026.

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Are there any
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Seeing none, I declare the agenda
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Next, we're looking for the approval of
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council for policy and in camera on June
the 16th, 2026 and the regular meeting

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of council June 24th, 2026.
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» We don't need a motion, folks. I just
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errors or omissions. And uh seeing none,
I declare them approved. Next, we'll

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move to correspondence for information.
Uh counselors, you have it uh you've had

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it in front of you for some time and it
is on the screen. Is there anything

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under correspondence for information
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Oh, councelor Mitchell.
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clubs. Uh, on behalf of council, I'll be
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exhibition on the 19th of Sep of August.
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» Thank you, counselor. Any other items?

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Seeing none, we'll move to
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Okay, we'll start with the um

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item number 78, notice from the province
regarding a new policing billing model.

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Consultation is planned in August and
the CAL and warden need direction for

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participation. So, who's taking that?
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» Thank you, Madam Morton. So, we received
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the staff level, we've been to a couple
of sessions with the RCMP where this new

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billing model was discussed. Um, one was
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what that would look like and the level
of policing across the province. Uh

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there was another one which was a
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uh engagement with municipalities where
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This change although it looks great you
reduce your your policing cost by 25%

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which is very significant for E stance
the caveat is that we must spend that

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money on other community safety
initiatives. So there will be a sort of

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a drop-own list of what we are permitted
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community needs itself.
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my my feedback to them was we're not in
this business. That's why we contract

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with the RCMP. We are not in the public
safety business generally. I mean, we

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have bylaw enforcement and sidewalks and
that type of thing, but we don't have um

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community safety officers that we send
out to do wellness checks for people. We

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don't have social workers on staff. We
don't have folks who are mental health

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professionals on staff. And that is what
they will expect you to do with that 1.6

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million that that you're saving from a
police perspective. So, it's a really

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big conversation for East Hans. Um, it's
one that I foresee will will force you

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shifting your priorities from what they
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of public safety. And if you don't, I'm
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that, you know, maybe like do you lose
your money or do you pay it to them? I'm

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not really sure at this point. Um, they
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hand, we will have to do this and on the
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municipal autonomy. So, I'm not sure how
the two reconcile um yet. Hopefully, in

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August, they're going to reach out for a
virtual meeting. I'm not sure who

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they're going to ask to attend that
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police advisory board. Um up to this
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this announcement's been made, I would
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minimum the warden of the municipality
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but I don't know. So, I guess I need
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far we have these conversations. Um,
what it looks like for East Tants, I I

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can't tell you, but I need to be able to
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them to move this forward to see where
they want us to get to, if that makes

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sense.
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» Councelor Perry. Um yeah, looking at
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announcement, it, you know, was not a
detail in the provincial announcement

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today as much as there is in this
letter. And looking at it, I mean, for

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my for my the way I look at it is,
you know, for towns and small areas, you

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know, that model might work because it's
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if when you're dealing with with a town,
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large footprint, we we already uh with
our RCMP um have them stretch stretched

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pretty thin to respond and cover the
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serving. And I don't see how we could in
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come anywhere close to providing the
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municipality and covering the whole
municipality in that manner. Uh so this

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is definitely something that uh I think
needs to be taken and and there needs to

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be some uh some push back and some hard
questions uh asked and uh and I and I

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would you know if there's a motion
needed to say that we need to have these

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conversations and that it should be the
CEO and the warden and leading these

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conversations I am all for making that
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couple other people on and if and if
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made, I'll be happy to make it.
>> My mic is just on. So, councelor Rhino.

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» Thank you, Madam Warden. Well, from this
explanation here tonight CEO, there

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doesn't seem to be any savings to the
taxpayer whatsoever. To me, if you're

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going to decrease [clears throat] the
cost of 25%, but you're going to tell

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somebody how to spend that 25% that you
did save, there's no saving. The

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taxpayer isn't going to see it's the
thing. So, uh, until we dive deeper into

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this and find out, you know, what
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this to me is just was a press release
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Councelor
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» Uh, thank you, Madam Morton. So, so they
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on yet?
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officer on the ground? Like, no. Or or
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the street lights be in that? No.
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changing as you know it. Um, what
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model for calculating the cost of
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model but based on the crime severity in
a in a community based on the um

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standard assessments um couple of other
indexes that they have. So the premise

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being that every municipality regardless
of how much a council wants to invest in

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policing will get the same standard
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» So that's what they're going to agree to
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across the board. And if you've and
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order to make sure that happens. So,
municipalities won't receive less

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service than they get now, but they may
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But in the in the discussions I've had
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the press release says these savings
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safety priorities such as layered
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mental health and addictions response,
and crime and violence prevention. So,

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those are all things that we don't do
right now. We we have one bylaw

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enforcement officer. That's what we do.
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programming with the RCMP.
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described it at the meeting I was at is
sort of a drop down. What does East

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Hance want to take from the drop down?
What can you do? What does your RCMP

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office in in East Hance need as
supports? and what are your council's

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priorities for for this? None of these
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Um, so I've I've tried to advocate that
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a layered policing model, those police
those people should report to the RCMP

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commander and provide that support to
the officers similar to what we've done

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with our admin support and court liaison
officers. We don't supervise those

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people or tell them what to do. we pay
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That is not the model that they're going
with. So again, I don't know what it

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looks like. Um, but if it looks like
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provinces,
this is like having community safety

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officers that report in through the CAO,
like do you need a that will support the

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RCMP and their 24-hour policing model?
Uh, one of the examples they gave was in

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Wolfville, you could send in a community
safety officer to shut down a party

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instead of wasting RCMP's time shutting
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I don't know how feasible that is, but
that was one of the examples that was

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given in the meeting that that I
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doing wellness checks for people.
Instead of sending officers in to do

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wellness checks, you could send a
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municipal employee [clears throat]
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again, not the business we're in
currently. Um, and not identified as one

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of your priorities for sure,

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» councelor McY.
>> Uh, thank you, [clears throat] Warden.

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And, uh, thank you, uh, Kim. That
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wondering about. But
could you, what do they mean by layered

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policing exactly? I kind of have a
thought but uh

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» so that is that through you madam warden
that is that model that I just

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described. So you [clears throat] have a
police officer to do the sort of crime

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and and whatnot but then you could also
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do
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the hospital. Um,

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there's stories where you have RCMP
officers who go to the hospital and have

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to sit there for 12 hours and wait with
somebody until they get admitted.

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» That could be a layered policing
structure where you have someone who's

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not a full RCMP officer do that. You
have someone who works for municipality

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take them instead. A community safety
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So, that's the layered policing. Um,
they've talked as well about increased

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bylaw enforcement. So, a lot of the
things that we get the RCMP to enforce

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in our bylaws now, that could be in um
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officers that we would hire instead of
having the RCMP go out and and hire that

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or [clears throat]
perform those uh you know, if it's

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parking violations or speed violations,
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» so would that so would those officers
work answer directly to you as CEO or

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» that would be to be det they would
answer to me at some point. Maybe not

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directly to me.
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» but they would be municipal employees.
>> Be municipal employees. Yeah.

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» Right.
>> And so you're saying that

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» nobody [clears throat] will they're
going to try to have a standard rate

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across the province
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» For policing we're kind of above that
standard. We've chosen I think with the

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24hour the number of officers that we
have per capita in that work. So do we

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continue with that number of officers?
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» So
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» other municipalities are going to have
to come up to our

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standard. So it's actually going to cost
some municipalities money then.

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» Uh the the model shows that there's no
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And I I tried to find it earlier. Um
there's something about the first five

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years. there's no increases or there's
minimal increases in the first five

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years to get you to where you need to
be. I can't remember the

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» the formula, but
>> so will we still have the choice then of

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how many officers we have like we have?
No, we won't.

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» So,
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department of justice will determine the
level of service the province has across

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the board. They will rein they will
invest more money into policing so that

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everybody gets the same level of service
across the board and council will no

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longer be paying based on the number of
officers you have. You'll be paying for

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a police service that is standardized
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» So we will probably have fewer officers.
If if you're going to go down to a mean

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and you're above that mean then you have
to have less.

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» Not necessarily.
But but you will be out of that decision

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» with this new model
>> and that's not up for debate.

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» Yeah.
>> I mean politically you can debate with

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the province whatever you want but in in
this model the new policing model has a

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standard level of policing across the
province. No one will lose the the level

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they have now.
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and some people won't see a decrease in
their cost because they'll

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the level is not is going to go up. go
up for them. Yeah. So, I can't see how

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» the people that are above the mean
aren't going to lose policing, have to

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lose services if you're wrong to have
less. But anyway, maybe I remember when

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we met with uh the minister and at that
time I thought he [clears throat] was

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trying to convince us that everything
would be hunky dory, but I wasn't buying

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it then and I'm not buying it now. Thank
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» Thank you, counselor. Councelor
Mitchell.

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Thank you, Madam Warden. [clears throat]
Based on the discussion and the

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information, I'm getting a feeling that
we might have to add staff to cover the

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skill sets that we don't have on staff.
>> Uh, three, Madam Warden. I certainly

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don't have
anyone on staff who could supervise a

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community safety officers.
So, do we have to uh add somebody to do

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that going forward or
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» I know they're pushing it on us.
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how this is all going to work. There's
no, you know, is it a regional approach?

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Is it a municipality of East Hans
approach? I don't know the answer, but

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um I
>> this is another provincial initiative

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that has been pushed out with an
announcement that is downloading things

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onto municipalities [clears throat]
without a lot of detail on how it's

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going to work. I'll be blunt.
>> And they are setting up separate

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meetings with each municipality to talk
about each municipal unit and how it's

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going to work and what they what they
believe needs to be in place for each

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community. But you're going to have a
community safety board instead of a

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police advisory board. Um, your
community safety board, I assume, will

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set those
priorities for your community and then

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we'll have to to fund them.
>> Okay. U

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[clears throat] counselors, I'm going to
go to councelor garden cole next. I'm

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going to try and cycle through the
counselors who haven't spoken yet and

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then come back to those who have. So,
councelor garden.

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» Thank you, madam warden. So just
thinking about this over in my mind, my

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concern with this is when you talk about
wellness checks and you know mental

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health checks and those kinds of things
that people think might not be fall

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under the umbrella of policing or might
not require policing. Any of those

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checks has the potential to escalate
very quickly to to the point where you

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do need policing. So, I just don't know
how they could strike those off as being

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potential areas where they could, you
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I feel like we would be having to hire
police to do the policing for the areas

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that the police aren't willing to do,
which sounds really redundant,

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» but that would be um, you know, if we
can pass that on, that would be the way

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that I'm seeing it. So through you,
Madam Morton, I have passed that on. Um

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my feedback to them was if you want to
have community safety officers that

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support the RCMP and policing, then the
police should operationalize those folks

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and be able to call on them when they
need them, not based on what when I say

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they should be working and when they're
not. So that is part of the conversation

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I had with them at a meeting in Angones.
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well I asked them again today if it they
had taken that into consideration and

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they have not.
>> I I understand that they are looking at

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their system and saying, you know, it's
like taking someone to the hospital and

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ending up there for 9 hours. I I
understand that part of their time seems

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like it's tied up unnecessarily or for
situations that don't require policing,

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but this sounds like a really drastic
attempt to solve solve those problems.

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Thank you,
>> Councelor Miam.

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» Thank you, Madam Warden. I was wondering
if um one avenue for uh giving feedback

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and advocacy might be the NSFM or Nova
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I don't know if they've come out with
anything yet, but um maybe this this is

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a question for the CAO as well. You
know, could that be an avenue? Because I

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I'm thinking this isn't just an US
issue. It's a you know, it's an everyone

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issue.
After you, Madam Warden, I know the NSFM

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was um copied on all of our letters
today. Um in one of our sessions, they

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did say that they were going to engage
with the NSFM. Um so that would have

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probably been a couple weeks ago. Um I'm
not sure what the conversations have

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been with that group. Um but certainly
I think if the municipalities all have

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individual meetings with Department of
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it's sort of one of those, you know,
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Um I think we do need to engage the NSFM
as soon as we know what the agreement

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looks like and what the expectations
are. Um and that will come hopefully in

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our meeting in August with them.
>> Okay. Um thank you,

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Deputy Warden.
>> Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I'm

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similar to councelor Mitchell and
council garden cole is the uh wellness

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and the parties and the things like that
these people go to hospital injuries are

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who is going to be training them the
liability uh RCMP take a person to the

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hospital they have handcuffs to handcuff
the person to a chair if they have to go

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to the washroom these people have all
this protection for themselves so I

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think I go back to the warden's comments
it's the problems downloading more stuff

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to municipalities thank Thank you.

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» Back to you, Councelor Perry.
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Warden. And, and

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when we talk about the 55, I think it's
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Nova Scotia, you're probably going to
see a lot of municipalities are going to

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get a win out of this because they're
not meeting the standard. They don't

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have 24-hour policing. They don't have
enough officers. So, for them, this is

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going to be good for their areas. For
ones like us that have been proactive

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and been ahead of the curve, it's could
be detrimental because they're not going

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to need to take the money that was
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create new services. Their money is just
going to just go to policing uh as ours

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used to. And when I look at all the
services that they talk about in this

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multi-layered policing, if we had a
hospital here that had a mental health

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unit, if we had, you know, an emergency
room or we had any type of the supports

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that's required to support these
positions, it might be something that

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our municipality could look at, but we
don't have any of those within our

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borders. So we don't even have the
supports if we wanted to do layer

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policing to support the people on the
back end for doing this. So that is a

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huge huge concern as well. Um and for me
I I I really think that we could talk

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about this for the next two hours but
the big thing is there's a meeting

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coming up in August and then there will
be a meeting coming up with us at some

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point. the minister's and his team is
going to come here and hopefully meet

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with all of council about about what's
going on. So,

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I'm going to move that uh
you know, we authorize the CEO and the

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warden to relay at the August meeting uh
the displeasure with this current uh

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funding model and announcement
um that was presented by the province

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today outlining our concerns uh for not
only the resident's safety but also the

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ability for us to manage and protect our
residents in the future.

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» Seconded by councelor McY councelor
Rhino, you were on before the motion.

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» Thank you, Madam Warden. Well, I don't
know if I can agree with the motion or

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not because all we have is a letter. All
we have is the little information our

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CEO has. We don't know. We have
assumptions.

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We have our thoughts. We have our
questions. So until we have a sat down

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meeting and get some final information
on what it's going to be like, then I

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can think we could spend an hour or we
could spend an evening on this or more

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discussing this all together. This is no
good to beat this around here tonight

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because there's too many unanswered
questions. There's not enough

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information.
I think councelor, correct me if I'm

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wrong, councelor Perry, the intent of
the motion is really to allow for the

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meeting that will take place in August,
the CAO and I to proceed along the lines

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that with the information we have at
hand, we see some difficulties with

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this.
>> I'll I agree with that. However, putting

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our concerns out there, we don't know
what all our concerns are because we

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don't have an information. All we have
is assumptions on our concerns. And that

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can be one of the concerns we express.
>> I think we just don't want to go into

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these meetings blind with no idea how
council wants us to proceed.

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» They may invite all the council. I don't
know.

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» Yes. But it could certainly be open. We
don't know.

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» They've already got it all planned.

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» I see no one else left to speak. There's
a motion on the floor. We'll go to the

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vote.

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And the motion has passed unanimously.

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» Okay, we are three minutes from our
public hearing. What's the next item on

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correspondence for decision
>> and we might be able to do we might be

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able to set this date in three minutes.
Let's give it a shot.

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» You're brave.
Council

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has been asked to consider booking a CAO
priority session on Thursday, September

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3rd, or at another time acceptable to
council and the CAO. So, I believe

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September the 3 is traditionally left
open in case there's anything over from

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August that has to be dealt with
quickly. I'm not sure, but that's

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September 1st.
>> Oh, okay.

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» That's the public information meeting.
All right, Councelor Perry,

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» I will move that uh we book September
3rd to have a CIO pri priority session.

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» Seconded by Councelor McY, councelor
Rhino.

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» Well, okay. If everybody wants it on the
third, that's fine. But I'll inform you

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now I probably won't be here. I'm
getting a new knee on the 25th, so I'm

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not probably going to be very happy to
have you be here that evening. So, and

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but I I do wish that it had been put off
a little bit so I could uh hear those

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priorities. Thank you.
>> Well, we certainly could, if counselor

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wishes, put it off until October.
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» do October 1st
>> and uh anyone and uh

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councelor Gordon Cole.
>> Thank you, Madam Morton. I'm going to

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make a motion that we put it off until
>> we have a motion.

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» Motion on the floor. We'd have to move
to table that motion I believe or

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» amend it to change the date. I think
would not change the intent of the

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motion. We'd still be having a meeting.
>> So if you wish to do that.

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» Okay, that's what I would like to amend
the motion to uh have the meeting on

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October 1st rather than September 3rd.
Second.

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» Seconded by councelor Miriam. Any
discussion on the amendment?

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» Seeing none, we'll go to vote. Go to the
vote. This is on the amendment.

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Two people who haven't voted yet, folks.

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» Okay. Motion is passed unanimously by
those present in the room. All right.

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All right, we'll go to the vote on the
amended motion.

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Motion is passed unanimously by those
present for the discussion.

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All right, we have reached the hour of
7:30 which is the time of our public

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hearing.

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Uh we have two items on the public
hearing agenda this evening.

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Uh the purpose of this hearing is for
council to hear input from the public

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prior to making a decision on the
proposals. To the members of the public

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who have chosen to participate this
evening, welcome. Please note the

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council's procedural policy requires
that you not cheer, boo, clap, or

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otherwise disrupt this hearing. Everyone
who wishes will have an opportunity to

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be heard. Tonight, council may approve,
reject, or defer its decision to a later

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date. Council approval is required for
the proposals to proceed. I will now ask

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the municipal clerk to outline when the
public hearing advertisements were

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published.
>> Uh Madame Warden, a public hearing

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notice appeared in the July 14th, 2026
and July 21st, 2026 editions of the

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Chronicle Herald. The notices described
the proposals, gave the date and time of

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this public hearing, and indicated the
staff reports were available to the

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public.
>> Thank you.

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Uh
counselors, the first public hearing

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item this evening is a mapping amendment
application from Andrew and Julie

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Gildby. I will now ask the chair of the
planning advisory committee to present

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his report. Councelor Mitchell.
The planning advisory committee has

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considered the proposal on behalf of
municipal council. The committee has

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reviewed staff reports, completed their
evaluation, and will make a

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recommendation to council during this
hearing.

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Madam Warden, through you, I would now
ask staff to present their final report

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on the proposal.
>> Nice. Okay.

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» Thank you, [clears throat] Madam Morton.
So, the subject property is 809 Horn

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Settlement Road. Uh the property's area
is 23 acres. It's currently splitzoned

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rural use and established residential
neighborhood zone. Um the application

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relates to just the rural use portion of
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So [clears throat] the applicants are
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designation from rural use to establish
residential designation and zone. The

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application is to enable the
construction of a private road and then

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subdivide off that private road. In the
rural use zone, new roads are not

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permitted. So the design redesignation
and reszoning will result in the whole

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property being established residential
neighborhood designation and zone and to

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permit that private road.
So the applicant suggests an additional

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eight lots could be created. Uh so
that's nine lots total although the land

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would need to be surveyed and meet the
requirements of the subdivision bylaw

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and this is just their concept.
So here are the proposed amendments. Uh

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the entire property would be established
residential neighborhood designation on

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the left and zone on the right.
So staff have referred to the MPS

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policies associated with the rural use
designation as well as general policies

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related to amending the MPS and land use
bylaw. Policy IM10 states council shall

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consider the this type of application
and policy IM19B states council shall

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have regard for the adequacy of site
conditions for private and on-site

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septic and water systems. So the
applicants uh engaged a hydrogeeologist

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to conduct a level one groundwater
assessment for the property. The study

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found no potential environmental
concerns related to the development. The

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underlying aquifer is capable of
supplying sufficient water quantity and

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quality um with conventional inhome
treatment systems for the proposed

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development.
Uh the study suggests that if the number

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of lots does increase um the study
should be reviewed.

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So planning staff contacted the fire
department, RCMP and the municipal

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infrastructure and operations department
for comments. Uh there were no concerns

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with the reasonzoning of the property.
They just highlighted um that the new

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private road will have to comply with
the municipal standards for private

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roads.
Nova Scotia Public Works was also

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contacted and they do not anticipate a
negative impact on the road network. Um,

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private road access can be obtained in
the vicinity of the existing residential

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driveway on the property.

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So, an advertisement outlining the
proposal and indicating that it was

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under review was placed in a May edition
of the Chronicle Herald. Uh, there was a

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00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:10,560
public meeting public information
meeting held on June 2nd. Um, this was

416
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:15,520
for three applications. 14 people
attended. Um

417
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:19,359
there was only one comment about this
application and it was just to clarify

418
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,200
if any of the neighboring properties
would be reszoned as well and staff

419
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:26,200
indicated that this was a sight specific
amendment.

420
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:34,320
So questionnaires were mailed out to uh
all the properties within 300 meters uh

421
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,960
of the subject property to allow
residents the opportunity to comment on

422
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:45,440
the application. 111 questionnaires were
sent out and seven were returned. Um,

423
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:49,919
most letters indicated no concern or
oppositions. Um, there were some

424
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:54,480
concerns about where the proposed road
would join Horn Settlement Road. Um,

425
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,240
they would prefer if the road would be
located on the other side of the

426
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:03,440
property. Um, again, there were concerns
about land use changes to adjacent

427
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,160
properties. Um resident asked if there
would be any businesses on the

428
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,440
properties or if it would just be
private dwellings. Um there were also

429
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:15,680
questions about where the homes would
draw their water. Um and then there was

430
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:22,320
just general discussion on neighborhood
pride and the wish to maintain the

431
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:25,920
peaceful nature of the area.
So a letter was mailed to property

432
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:30,160
owners again within 300 meters
indicating the date and time of this

433
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:34,079
public hearing. Um, as we mentioned, a
notice of public hearing was placed in

434
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:38,400
the July 14th and 21st editions of the
Chronicle Herald. Uh, and the municipal

435
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,800
website and social media pages have been
updated regularly.

436
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:49,839
So, staff have reviewed the proposed um
the proposal for portion of the subject

437
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:54,320
property to be reszoned and redesated to
establish residential neighborhood

438
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:59,760
designation and zone. The proposed
amendments have been evaluated using all

439
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,960
applicable policies in the MPS. Um, and
staff are recommending approval of this

440
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,800
application.
Council's decision on this application

441
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:13,520
is not appealable to the Nova Scotia
Regulatory and Appeals Board. Thank you.

442
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:17,880
Thank you. Does any member of council
have any questions for staff?

443
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:27,240
Seeing none, I would now ask if the
applicant has any comments or would like

444
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,240
to make a presentation.

445
00:36:30,345 --> 00:36:32,365
[clears throat]

446
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,960
Uh, good good evening everyone.
>> Uh, my name is Andrew Gilby. I'm here

447
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:53,440
with my wife Julie, daughter Grace, and
son Gage. Um, I guess most everybody

448
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:59,680
here was at the public information
meeting the last time we were here. So,

449
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:06,079
um, I think everyone is,
I guess, pretty well, um, aware of what

450
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:13,680
we're trying to do and accomplish. Um, I
guess I would first like to thank the

451
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:17,520
staff and everybody here for for,
you know, going through this process for

452
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:21,680
the first time, recognizing how much
work and detail goes into this. Um, we

453
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,000
read [clears throat] through some of the
stuff was online

454
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,680
a couple nights ago and reading through
it like there's a lot that goes into

455
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:36,320
this. There's a lot of detail. There's a
lot of, you know, engaging the public.

456
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:41,920
So, um it's kind of eye opening that,
you know, um that this stuff happens. Um

457
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:48,079
and so we appreciate uh everyone's
efforts on it. And after the previous

458
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:51,119
conversation about the RCMP and police,
there's way [clears throat] bigger

459
00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:57,440
problems uh than than what we're trying
to get through here tonight. So, um I'll

460
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:02,640
keep it short and sweet. We are working
our way through this. I can touch on a

461
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:09,359
few points uh that were brought up by
some of the questions. We are would be

462
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:14,720
certainly open to moving the driveway
over to the other side of the road. We

463
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:19,119
have no preference. Um if that um
appeases to a neighbor that asks a

464
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:23,599
question, we're okay with that. Um I
think some of it falls in line with

465
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:28,720
sight lines and stopping distances based
on the speed limits or speed zone of the

466
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:33,920
area. um we have to work our way through
that with the engineer.

467
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:41,359
Um but we're certainly not opposed to to
any of that if if that helps um makes

468
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:45,920
this easier for someone else. Um
the

469
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:53,520
most of the I think the hydraological
study indicated that um they preferred

470
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:57,280
drilled wells on the properties um which
most of these properties will have

471
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:03,520
drilled wells. I don't think
um living in that area now. I don't

472
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:06,960
think dug wells are um are doing that
well. We've we've had some friends and

473
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,400
family live close by that have dug wells
and they're not they don't produce a lot

474
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,200
of water, but I suspect most everybody
around drill wells. We're not putting

475
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:19,760
any any kind of water system out of the
lake. Um

476
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:24,560
we will, you know, our intent is um you
know, keeping the peacefulness and the

477
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:31,680
nature character. We we're from the
community. We live on the lake now. We

478
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:39,280
want to uh create a a very nice um
property and have lots for our our kids

479
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:44,800
and extended family. And it will be very
it will you know our intent is to have a

480
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:50,000
very well-designed and you know nice
property that only adds to the community

481
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:54,800
um and doesn't take away from it. So we
will respect the uh the natural

482
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,520
character of the of the area. We're not,
you know, like I said in the previous

483
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,920
meeting, it's we're not looking to put
in a a big building or apartment

484
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:09,200
building or, you know, have public boat
launch or anything. This is a private um

485
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:14,000
family compound and and that's really u
all we're looking to intend to do. So,

486
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:17,839
that's really it for me. If anybody has
any questions, I'd be happy to answer

487
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:23,839
them.
>> Thank you very much.

488
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:28,079
I will now open the floor for comments
and questions. If you are viewing the

489
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:32,560
YouTube live stream, you may use the
YouTube chat feature which is being

490
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:37,640
monitored. First, does anyone attending
in person have any questions or

491
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,640
comments?

492
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:46,800
Seeing none, I would ask if any member
of the public has any questions or

493
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,240
comments through the live chat on
YouTube.

494
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:53,000
» No.
>> No. No one is waiting to speak there.

495
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,520
Does any member of staff have any final
comments?

496
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,960
I would now ask the chair of the
planning advisory committee to present

497
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:11,200
his committee's recommendation.
Councelor Mitchell.

498
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Planning Advisory Committee recommends
that council give second reading and

499
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:19,480
approve the proposal for a portion of
PID 455080801

500
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:26,880
to amend the missile planning strategy
land use bylaw by changing from rural

501
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:34,160
use zone and designation to the
established residential neighborhood

502
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:37,119
zone and designation. As chair PAC, I so
move

503
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,440
» second.
>> Moved and seconded. Are there any final

504
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:44,440
questions or comments from municipal
counselors?

505
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,008
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.
[clears throat]

506
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,160
And [snorts] the motion has passed
unanimously.

507
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:11,760
Okay, councilors. The second public
hearing item this evening is a

508
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,240
development agreement application from
Barry Hill and Darren Lawrence. I would

509
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:20,359
now ask a chair of the planning advisory
committee to present his report.

510
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,079
» Planning advisory committee has
considered the proposal on behalf of

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00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:29,760
municipal council. The committees had to
review staff reports, complete their

512
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:33,760
evaluation, and will make a
recommendation to council during this

513
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:40,040
hearing. Madame Warden, through you, I
would now ask staff to present their

514
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,040
final report on the proposal.

515
00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:00,480
» Thank you, Madam Warden.
Um, so the applicant is Barry Hill and

516
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:04,720
Darren Lawrence. The location of the
property is located in South Matland

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00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:09,760
along Highway 236.
The subject properties outlined here in

518
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:12,319
red. The approximate size is 50 acres.
And the proposal is to enter into a

519
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,560
development agreement to permit a
motocross track on land zoned rural use

520
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:22,560
north RU2 zone. Um there is currently an
existing house and barn on land and the

521
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:29,520
land had been used for agriculture
purposes. So the neighboring zones are

522
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:33,200
also um rural use north and there's the
five mile river to the south of the

523
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,960
property. Um the five mile river
starting at the high water park and uh

524
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:40,400
high water mark and going to a depth of
about 30 mters. There's the water course

525
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:45,839
green belt along that and then in
between um the river and the subject

526
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:49,800
land there's the former DA line and that
is zoned open space.

527
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,760
Um the Royal Use North Zone permits any
potentially obnoxious commercial

528
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,440
developments to include vehicle
racetracks and amusement park uses by

529
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,880
development agreement. In addition to
the motocross track, the applicant is

530
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,800
also proposing to construct supporting
structures such as a tower, bleachers,

531
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,880
parking area, portable washrooms, and a
temporary canteen. Um, the house is

532
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:14,960
located on the subject properties to
remain and at this time the applicant

533
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,560
proposes uh the use of the motocross
track for practices with events taking

534
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:22,480
place in the future and the DA does
include provisions for future events.

535
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:28,160
The development agreement includes hours
of operation that extend from 10:00 a.m.

536
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:33,520
to 7:00 p.m. So, here is the site plan
for the motocross track. Um, as you can

537
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:39,040
see, the brown squiggly lines is the
actual track. Um there is an existing

538
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:42,960
driveway there um that wouldn't be able
to be used for the motocross track. Um a

539
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,880
new driveway would have to be installed
here and personnel would have to be on

540
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:50,960
site to direct traffic during motocross
events. So this is where Nova Scotia

541
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:55,359
Public Works has indicated that the
driveway shall be located and they're

542
00:44:53,440 --> 00:45:00,240
providing parking for 90 parking stalls
here in the rear. Um they're showing

543
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:05,599
cantens, washrooms, a first aid station,
bleachers and the tower. Um, and also

544
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:10,000
there will be another parking area and
that driveway is approved by Nova Scotia

545
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Public Works is okay by them. It just
has to be upgraded for um for the use of

546
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,280
the property. And this here would be for
the pit area where you have your utility

547
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:22,880
trailers at.
Um, and I should mention that the

548
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:27,200
applicant is proposing to maintain a
green buffer along that south uh of the

549
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,440
property line here.
And this is a aerial photo of the

550
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:38,240
subject uh property and it just shows uh
the track that um they had started.

551
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,599
So it's policy AR39 of the municipal
planning strategy that propins council

552
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:46,160
to consider the development agreement
application. Um, so as part of the

553
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:50,800
application, staff contacted Nova Scotia
Public Works about the driveways and

554
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:55,920
they, as I mentioned, they did supply
feedback and indicated that um, they

555
00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:00,640
required to have a new driveway location
um, that would allow for that commercial

556
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:04,400
use and um, it has been updated on the
site plan. The pit area is acceptable,

557
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:09,680
but the driveway will create require
upgrades for the large larger vehicles.

558
00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:13,520
Um Matland and District Volunteer Fire
Department have no issues with the

559
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:16,560
proposed development and the RCMP um
have provided planning staff with

560
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,079
comments on the proposed development and
one of their concerns was that the

561
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:25,760
proposed ingress egress to the site
shall accommodate access for emergency

562
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:29,359
vehicles. Um there CMP have requested
that the applicant have parking control

563
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,200
personnel for motocross events and that
requirement has been included in the

564
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:36,880
draft development agreement. um ensuring
that there's adequate parking for the

565
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,960
motocross events was another concern and
as I mentioned they provided parking for

566
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:47,040
90 parking stalls and then in addition
to that they have a pit and utility

567
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:54,400
trailer area um for uh the motocross
events the applicant will be required to

568
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:57,440
build uh yes and um under citizen
engagement so an advertisement outlining

569
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:00,240
the proposal and indicating it was
review under staff was placed in the

570
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Chronicle Herald a letter and
questionnaire was mailed out to all

571
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,800
property owners within 300 mters of the
subject property asking for comments on

572
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:11,839
the proposed application. So we mailed
out 28 letters and we had seven

573
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,440
responses and the responses were mostly
positive. Um there were two concerns

574
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:18,880
mentioned and that was in regards to
parking as I mentioned and the tra

575
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:23,200
concerns around traffic if people were
trying to park along the road and as I

576
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:30,640
said they've provided parking um for 90
people or 90 stalls and um the other

577
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:36,319
concern was potential noise and
motocross events do have noise but um

578
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:41,280
we've limited the hours of operation
from 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

579
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,880
Uh this application as with all
development agreements is appealable to

580
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:49,440
the Nova Scotia Regulatory and Appeals
Board and uh below here is just the

581
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,000
process that we followed and we're at
the public hearing tonight and um if

582
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:59,599
council will approves or refuses the
applicant and the public have the right

583
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:03,359
to appeal. Thank you, Madam Warden.
>> Thank you.

584
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Does any member of council have
questions for staff?

585
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,240
Councelor Mitchell.
>> Yes. Thank you, Madam Warden. Looking at

586
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:18,720
the diagram, my question to you for
staff is how did you connect the pit

587
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:25,280
area? How is it that pit area connected
to the to the other part, the track

588
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:28,480
area? I don't see a roadway and uh
>> um path.

589
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:33,920
» So you madam chair, they probably will
drop off their um they may drop off the

590
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,680
bikes here or they may put in a path to
that area. Not all of the pedestrian

591
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,640
pathways have been showing on here.
>> Okay.

592
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,440
» Yeah.
>> Just concerned they might have to go

593
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:44,720
back out on the roadway. That's all.
>> Yeah.

594
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,400
» Thank you,
>> Councelor Gordon Cole.

595
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:54,079
» Thank you, Madam Morton. Uh just a
couple of I want to acknowledge the

596
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:57,200
concerns of the uh residents nearby. And
so when it comes to parking, I

597
00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:02,079
understand that parking on the road
would not be ideal for any event, but I

598
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:07,839
see that they've uh put in 90. So
hopefully that will suffice. And of

599
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:12,480
course the noise issue. So is this a
just because I'm very familiar with dirt

600
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:18,800
bikes and even tracks back at lees. Is
this a uh competition only track or is

601
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:22,880
it a uh training and practice track as
well? Just trying to get an idea of how

602
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:27,040
often there will be dirt bikes on this
track. um through you Metam Morton

603
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,720
through from what I understand um it's
initially going to be used for a

604
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,240
practice track with possible future
events taking place but the intention

605
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:39,119
right now is for a practice track.
>> So in saying that could it be could

606
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,160
there be someone on it every day or just
on Saturdays or has that been hammered

607
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:47,440
down?
>> Um through you Madam Morton there could

608
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,520
potentially be people on it during the
days. Um, and when I talked to the

609
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,359
advocate, they said if they were going
to hold events, it would be during uh

610
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:00,160
like once a month kind of thing on a
weekend type event, but yes, there could

611
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:04,440
be people on it uh daily.
>> I see. Okay. Thank you.

612
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:12,760
» Okay. I would now ask if the applicant
has any comments or would like to make a

613
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,760
presentation.

614
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:24,720
» I guess I'm elected to speak.
Um, I don't have a lot to add except

615
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:30,960
that I want to thank Debbie because I'm
sure I was the epitome of the biggest

616
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:35,760
bother ever. If it wasn't for her, I'd
have never got through this

617
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:41,119
and
we've worked together hand in hand. Uh

618
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:47,839
we have tried to come up with every
option we could to fix everybody's

619
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:53,040
concerns such as the parking, the
overflow parking. There's the path down

620
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:57,599
to the
track from the overflow parking. It's

621
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:04,720
already there. Just needs to be spruced
up a little. And they've come out and

622
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:10,000
showed us where the new driveway was.
They'd like to see it. and the other

623
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:16,480
driveway widened out. We gave the
dimensions to them that they wanted

624
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:23,000
and I guess it's just kind of
up to council now if it goes through

625
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,000
before we do anything else.

626
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,400
Thank you, Carla.

627
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:34,960
Okay,
I will now open the floor for comments

628
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:38,559
and questions. If you're viewing the
YouTube live stream, you may use the

629
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,559
YouTube chat feature which is being
monitored. But first, does anyone

630
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,880
attending in person have any questions
or comments?

631
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Seeing none, I would ask if any member
of the public has any questions or

632
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,880
comments through the live chat on
YouTube.

633
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,800
» No.
>> No.

634
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,760
Does any member of staff have any final
comments?

635
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:07,680
» Uh, no.
I would now ask the chair of the

636
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:12,640
planning advisory committee to present
his committee's recommendation.

637
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:16,720
Planning Advisory Committee recommends
the council give final consideration and

638
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,119
approval to enter into development
agreement for a motocross

639
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:25,319
track use located on property identified
as bid 4510440360

640
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:35,760
highway 236 South Matland signed within
one year of council's approval. As chair

641
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:41,440
of PAC, I so moved
>> seconded by councelor Rhino.

642
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:44,640
And any final questions or comments from
municipal counselors? We'll go to

643
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:50,891
councelor Rhino.
>> Thank you, Madam Bordon. I believe that

644
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:55,760
this uh opportunity is u another
[clears throat] attraction for uh

645
00:52:53,040 --> 00:53:01,119
tourism and such in the Hans North area.
I've talked to a lot of people. I have

646
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:05,200
the biggest district uh all in East H. I
geographical district. I've talked to a

647
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,240
lot of people. People in Walton have
mentioned it. People in N have mentioned

648
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:13,200
it. people through null road have
mentioned and up down the shore and that

649
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,960
was mostly all positive. You're not
going to please everybody. There's going

650
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,960
to be always some naysayers, but I think
you know this, as I said, this is

651
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:26,079
another attraction. We used to have the
uh uh race matland dragway down there

652
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,079
that brought in a lot of people. This
has the potential to bring in more

653
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:36,240
people. Has to has the potential to
create some employment if it goes to uh

654
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:41,280
bigger events. There's tracks uh
motocross is is definitely catching

655
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:47,520
growing bigger uh right across the
province and right across Canada and I

656
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:52,880
think that this if if the development
agreement is followed I think there

657
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:57,839
should be no hopefully no problems
heading down the road. So I'm in full

658
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:03,520
support of this and and uh I hope I hope
council is is as well. Thank you.

659
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:11,319
» Thank you. Does any other counselor have
any final comments or questions?

660
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,319
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

661
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:17,720
Motion has passed unanimously.

662
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:26,680
So, that concludes tonight's public
hearings and I would just like to thank

663
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,680
everybody for attending.

664
00:54:29,142 --> 00:54:31,162
» [cough]

665
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:42,160
» So councilors, we'll return to the
agenda and we will go back to

666
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:47,280
» correspondence for decision.
So we'll go to item 20, which was a

667
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:51,119
letter from Jeff Mercer, the executive
director and chief librarian from the

668
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:55,680
Colchester Eastands Public Library
requesting repair and paving of a

669
00:54:53,520 --> 00:55:00,559
driveway and parking lot at the Mount
Uniac Library.

670
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:05,599
Atlanta
staff.

671
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:09,359
Go ahead.
>> Thank you, Madam Warden. Um, so as you

672
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,880
mentioned, the request before you was
from the Colchester East Tent Public

673
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Library executive director, chief
librarian um for the paving of the

674
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:22,079
parking lot of the Mount UNIA Library.
Uh, so staff have looked at this. We we

675
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:27,839
don't have this listed as a project, nor
do we have funding identified. And um

676
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:33,839
estimates for this kind of work would be
around $75,000. So from a staff

677
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:36,880
recommendation, um we would suggest that
council, if you wanted to support this,

678
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:42,400
would actually bring it forward as part
of 2728 budget discussions and that

679
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:46,559
would allow us time to um you know,
determine funding sources, etc., etc.,

680
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:51,839
but certainly up for council discussion
and consideration. Councelor

681
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,040
Perry,
>> I I wholeheartedly agree with staff. Um,

682
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:02,319
as we see a lot of things in flux coming
up in the next number of months and uh

683
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:07,280
we are over halfway throughout the year.
I think this is something that we should

684
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:10,240
uh bring to budget discussions. Uh no no
definitive answer whether it's going to

685
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:17,280
be done or not be done but to be
discussed at budget time in 2627. So, I

686
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:21,599
will move that uh the the conversation
around paving the UNIAC library be

687
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,599
brought up at budget discussions for
2627.

688
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,520
» Moved and 2728.
>> I was just going to say I think you

689
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,000
» 272828.
>> Yeah. I can't I can't go back in the

690
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,559
past. Sorry.
>> Okay.

691
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:41,079
» Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the motion?

692
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:41,079
» Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

693
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:52,960
And the motion has passed unanimously
and someone will contact Mr. Mercer and

694
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:58,960
let him know we're putting that into our
budget discussions.

695
00:56:55,359 --> 00:57:04,000
Next item, due to staff availability for
the September 1st, 2026 public

696
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:09,440
information meeting, staff are seeking
an alternative date to hold a PM

697
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:18,440
anticipating four topics. staff suggests
September 14th or 21st or another date

698
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,440
at council's discretion

699
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,920
» and a reminder
[clears throat and snorts] counselors

700
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:35,200
don't have to come to the p
>> I understand that but depending on what

701
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:40,640
it is there might be uh counselors that
wish to attend

702
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:46,480
um My only suggestion would be that in
the interest of perhaps

703
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:51,920
there are some things that I expect will
be coming up with these PIMS that folks

704
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:57,680
would be hoping we would get through the
PIM and perhaps be able to have a report

705
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:02,160
and some recommendation at committee in
September

706
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:12,240
which would require the PIM being held
prior to the 15th. So Councelor Perry

707
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:17,839
Thank you, Orton. I I understand uh your
comment about having it uh done and have

708
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:22,480
a report. I just don't know if if it's
uh if it's feasible to have a a meeting

709
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:29,359
the day before and a report generated
for the next day. Um,

710
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:34,240
I I I would move that the 14th or 21st
be set aside for the PIM based on

711
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:40,960
staff's availability,
but uh if if it's the will that you want

712
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:45,520
it done before then, then you'd have to
look at moving it to a different date

713
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:51,119
because I I just don't think the 14th
will work for any type of report uh that

714
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:55,599
comes into us at the standard that our
staff brings to be done.

715
00:58:53,680 --> 00:59:00,559
you know, in zero time because if it's
the meeting's in the evening, there's no

716
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:04,559
time to do a report until the next day.
So, uh,

717
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:07,520
yeah, I'll wait and see what other
counselors like to say.

718
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,280
» So, you're moving?
>> I

719
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,400
» Or you're going to wait?
>> I'm not I'm going to wait. I was going

720
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:19,200
to move that based on staff availability
and uh but I'll wait to see if anybody

721
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:25,680
else has anything to say.
>> Okay. Well, Councelor Mitchell,

722
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:32,760
» just a question through you to staff.
Could they go the the week before,

723
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:32,760
» Tuesday the 8th?

724
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,640
» Here.
>> That would give them time to do a report

725
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:44,240
for the 15th.
Looking at the calendar, [clears throat]

726
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,559
» I think the staff read of the country.
>> Oh, okay.

727
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:54,720
» Yeah. The the issue uh
Madame Warden, is I don't think all the

728
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,240
staff that need to be at that meeting
are going to be available until the week

729
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,280
of the 14th.
>> Okay.

730
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:05,599
» Is there any chance we could do? Are any
staff available that we could if there

731
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:10,720
are four? That's a lot to do in one
night anyway. Could we do two?

732
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,240
» Yes. So, the week before um there would
just be one staff person, critical staff

733
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:18,000
person missing. So, we there are
probably some applications we could

734
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:24,880
bring forward to append the week of the
7th. That's the Labor Day weekend.

735
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:29,040
» I guess my my concern is that these are
issues that [clears throat] have been

736
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:34,640
brought to council and we are off for
the month of August, which already has

737
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:38,960
these folks waiting an extra month and
to put it late enough into September,

738
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:46,000
but that adds another month to the
process is is not ideal. So, I guess

739
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:50,480
it's no secret. What are the four items
that we would be looking at going to a

740
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:58,680
PM4 in September?
>> Um, they are the

741
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,680
uh let me see here.

742
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:11,920
Yeah, the So, if you're willing to come
to two nights that month, then the

743
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:15,640
eighth we could do as well. Um,
let me just find the

744
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:26,160
» I believe one is the um changes to the
subdivision bylaw for churches and

745
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,680
cemeteries.
>> Yes, that is one of them. Um,

746
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:38,160
the other ones
>> townhouse parking.

747
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:43,000
Um,
no, it's a um,

748
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:51,440
uh, would be the 100 unit maximum under
DA. So, it would be another one.

749
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:56,280
And the other two I don't have in front
of me. So, I they're from an earlier

750
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,280
applications.

751
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,359
Um, so

752
01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:10,319
» yeah, I think that is Yeah, let me just
um find another document here.

753
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:14,852
» Well, it's kind of hard to make a
decision. I really

754
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:18,880
» I'd like to know what we could do on the
[clears throat] ETH and what would have

755
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:21,920
to wait. Well, um, so Madam Morton, if
you would just want to set this aside

756
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,520
for a bit, then I'll go back and look
and tell you exactly which applications

757
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,119
are, uh,
>> and which could be done earlier and

758
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,760
which would have to wait.
>> Okay. So, someone remind me to go back

759
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:40,200
to John later. Is that okay with
counselors?

760
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,200
» Okay, next item.

761
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:55,440
the paving of subdivision Jclass roads.
Is that Jesse or No, that's Kim. Okay,

762
01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:00,960
» go ahead. Through you, Madam Warden. And
this is an agreement that's very similar

763
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:05,359
to agreements you've um approved in the
past. We do need a motion of council to

764
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:10,799
sign it based on the provincial
requirements. and it essentially enables

765
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:16,319
you to enter into the paving agreements
with the province that may come up. It's

766
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:21,920
not a paving agreement for a particular
road. It just it enables us to to enter

767
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,680
into them at a future date. And we do
need a motion of council to approve

768
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:32,200
signing the agreement and then I can
sign it.

769
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:32,200
» Is someone prepared to make that motion?

770
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:40,480
Councelor McI.
Uh, thank you, Warden. Uh, I move that

771
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,960
council approves entering into a
three-year agreement with the province

772
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,799
entitled
parking of

773
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:52,319
» paving
>> or paving of subdivision Jclass Streets

774
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:55,520
Agreement, which will be active until
March 31st,

775
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:59,119
2030.
>> Second.

776
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:06,160
» Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the motion?

777
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,160
» Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

778
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:15,480
And the motion is passed unanimously by
those present.

779
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:24,799
Okay, that concludes correspondence for
decision. Um we'll go through these uh

780
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:29,039
first readings and second readings and
then maybe we'll circle back to John

781
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:37,119
before we go into the committee reports
or we can wait till PAC report.

782
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:45,039
So, next is um Councelor Perry and it is
uh first reading of bylaw IO-300-2,

783
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:53,000
an amendment to bylaw IO300, a bylaw
respecting the regulation of connections

784
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:53,000
and discharges to public sewer systems.

785
01:04:53,599 --> 01:05:01,440
Go ahead, councelor Perry.
>> Thank you, Madam Water. Madame Warden,

786
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:06,720
sorry, not water. [laughter]
at the regular meeting of count. Okay.

787
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:11,520
First reading bylaw IO 30300-2
an amendment to bylaw IO300 a bylaw

788
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,720
respectricting the regulations.
The infrastructure and operations

789
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:19,920
committee received a staff report at the
July 21st, 2026 executive committee

790
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:24,799
meeting regarding the sewer bylaw
recommending that the bylaw be updated

791
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:30,079
to decrease the allow of biochemical
oxygen demand the BOD concentration. The

792
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:34,400
Infrastructure and Operations Committee
recommends that council give first

793
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:39,520
reading to bylaw IO300-2,
an amendment to bylaw IO-300,

794
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:43,039
a bylaw respecting the regulation,
connections, and discharge to public

795
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:47,760
sewer systems, the sewer bylaw, as
attached the executive committee agenda

796
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:51,599
of July 21st, 2026. Chair of the
committee, I so move second.

797
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:58,799
» Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the motion?

798
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,799
» Seeing none, we will go to the vote.

799
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:10,079
The motion has passed unanimously.
Next, we are looking at second reading

800
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:14,720
of bylaw F-300-1,
an amendment to bylaw F-300, bylaw

801
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:24,520
respecting the maintenance and
improvements of private roads.

802
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:24,520
And we will go to Councelor Garden Cole.

803
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:33,680
The corporate and residential services
comm reading bylaw F300-1 an amendment

804
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,960
to bylaw F300 respecting the maintenance
and improvement of private roads. The

805
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:41,119
corporate and residential services
committee received a staff report at the

806
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:45,280
June 16th, 2026 executive committee
meeting regarding housekeeping

807
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:50,240
amendments for bylaw F300 to change the
fee charged to road associations

808
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:55,680
promotion C24
422 reducing the fee from 5% to 3%. The

809
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,520
reduction was included in the 2526
budget and the bylaw amendment is the

810
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:04,280
final change needed. First reading was
done in June and second reading can now

811
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,280
proceed.

812
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,599
The corporate and residential services
committee recommends that council give

813
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:16,240
second reading to bylaw F300-1, an
amendment to bylaw F300, a bylaw

814
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:20,319
respecting the maintenance and
improvement of private roads as attached

815
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:25,680
to the executive committee agenda dated
June 16th, 2026. As chair of the

816
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:31,119
committee, I so move
>> seconded by councelor Mariam. Is there

817
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:34,880
any discussion on the motion?
>> Councelor Musa.

818
01:07:34,496 --> 01:07:42,240
[laughter]
>> Uh thank you, Madame Gordon. Uh I think

819
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:47,680
that reduction is
is very good.

820
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:54,799
I I would like to see it at zero, but 3%
is better than 5%. and uh

821
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:59,760
uh we already hearing some good feedback
from from the community about that and

822
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,599
they're happy with it. So I will be in
full support of it. Thank you.

823
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:10,680
» Thank you.
>> Any further discussion?

824
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,680
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

825
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,440
Motion has passed unanimously.

826
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:20,640
Okay.

827
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:29,239
Okay, we will go back to bear with me

828
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:34,960
John with our question on public
information meetings.

829
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:39,520
» Thank you, Madam Morton. Okay, so the
two applications that would be ready to

830
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:46,799
go for the week of the 8th would be the
100 unit uh change and the LRO Williams

831
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:53,279
resoning application in Lance. and then
we would have to wait for say the 15th

832
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:58,480
for um the swinks application as well as
the cemetery report.

833
01:08:55,759 --> 01:09:05,279
» I'm quite disappointed to hear that
because the one is very timesensitive,

834
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:09,440
but it is what it is, I guess. Um so
there's no way these could be have

835
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:15,359
before the 14th.
Um, we could if it's um if it's

836
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:18,960
important to council, we we would just
have to bring another staff person in to

837
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:25,960
stand in for the planner whose
application it is. And we could do that.

838
01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:25,960
It's not ideal, but we could do that.

839
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,799
» Okay. Uh, councelor Perry,

840
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:42,719
» I would not be in favor of of uh having
another planner stand in because they

841
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:46,719
wouldn't know the intricacies of of the
person who's handling the file uh if the

842
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:50,000
public do have any question marks. I
understand it could be an inconvenience,

843
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:56,080
but there have been plenty of
inconveniences done uh for multiple

844
01:09:53,359 --> 01:10:00,800
different applications based on this. If
the only way that we avoid this is have

845
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:04,400
more staff, staff need to have the
ability to go on vacation and they they

846
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:08,080
have every right to do it. So if it
creates an inconvenience, that's just

847
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:11,920
the way it is based upon our our
numbering levels. And I don't think that

848
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:17,199
we should put other staff under stress
to try and meet something that uh when

849
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:22,800
the director has clearly said that he
can do two on one and and the other the

850
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:27,199
the one on the other, it's uh I I don't
think we should be picking based upon

851
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:31,040
applicants. We should just be looking at
what can be processed. And if we want

852
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:34,960
things to to to be able to be processed
at any time, then we need to look at

853
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:40,320
budget of hiring a lot more pe people.
Thank you.

854
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:46,480
Thank you, councelor Gordon Cole.
>> Thank you, Madam Morton. [clears throat]

855
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:51,120
So, is there is there a different uh
setup that we can do? Is there is there

856
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:54,719
a different uh combination that would
allow for the cemetery one to come

857
01:10:52,640 --> 01:11:00,239
forward first?
>> Um through you, Madam Morton. Again, um

858
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:04,480
the way to do that would be another
staff person would fill in for the

859
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:07,920
planner that's going to be away. Um and
again, we can do that. It's not, as I

860
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:12,614
said, it's not ideal for the reasons
councelor Perry cited, but it could be

861
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,634
done.
[clears throat]

862
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:23,280
» Councelor Mitchell,
>> thank you, Madam Warren. [clears throat]

863
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:27,280
Looking at the calendar,
is the PIM on the first still going?

864
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:29,120
» Sorry. Is
>> on the calendar up there?

865
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,840
» Yeah.
>> Public information on the first due to

866
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:38,239
the first. Um
>> well that's that was the original

867
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,000
schedule but um I've got even more staff
away that week. So

868
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,600
» okay
>> that's

869
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:47,840
» so we're looking at the 8th and beyond.
>> Okay. Okay. Just trying to get some

870
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:52,560
clarification. Thanks.
>> I would just ask the deputy warden if he

871
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,320
would take the chair for a moment.
>> Okay. [clears throat] Go ahead and

872
01:11:53,679 --> 01:11:58,960
warden.
>> I guess I don't quite share of a deep

873
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:05,679
concern about having our staff stand in
for one another. Um, we have very very

874
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:10,000
efficient staff and some of these PIMS
they're not public hearings, they're

875
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:14,800
public information meetings and I think
that all our staff are quite capable of

876
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:21,520
presenting the reports and it's not like
these are deeply deeply complicated

877
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:27,120
reports. So, personally, I would have no
problem with having other staff stand in

878
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:32,480
and try and move these items along and
not add another month to a process for

879
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:38,239
for some of these things. But that is
simply my opinion. Um, yes, staff are

880
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:42,080
certainly entitled to have a vacation,
but the business of the municipality has

881
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:45,920
to continue whether we have staff on
vacation or not. Thank you.

882
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:51,480
» Is that everything, man?
>> That's it.

883
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,480
» Okay. Now we'll go to councelor King

884
01:12:53,040 --> 01:13:03,040
» uh through the chair. Uh if if the uh
development that or the situation that

885
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:08,320
uh the warden is looking at is is that
important. Is there any possibility or

886
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:13,840
would it be reasonable to uh switch with
another py that's going to happen? like

887
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:18,880
would would one of those be upset if if
the the date was changed

888
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:22,800
» through Madame Morton. It it's it's not
really a matter of like time on the

889
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:25,360
agenda. It's the people available. So,
>> okay.

890
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:31,360
» Um again, first is what we would
normally schedule. Uh but I've got some

891
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:34,480
folks away. I've got one back on the the
next week and they're both back the week

892
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,480
after that.
>> Understood.

893
01:13:51,600 --> 01:14:00,000
Thank you. Uh, Deputy Warden, um,
according to the schedule that you have

894
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:05,120
presented,
um, the ideal schedule, is that the

895
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:11,920
order in which the the applicants were
received? because to me it's it's uh

896
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:17,520
everything's a pressing issue for
everyone every one of these people. Uh

897
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:22,080
and whether it's timesensitive or not, I
I don't believe we should be showing uh

898
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:26,880
favoritism to any applicant when they
come in, it should be done in order and

899
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:31,040
uh pushing things forward based on
somebody else's need. It should be done

900
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:34,560
in the process that they're received.
um through Madam Morning. It's not

901
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,440
really an issue of capacity or one sort
of bumping in front of another. You

902
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:40,880
know, we always take these things when
they're ready regardless of when they

903
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:45,360
come in and you know, some things just
happen faster getting comments back from

904
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:48,400
reviewing agencies and so on. So, it's
really just the issue here is staff

905
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:52,040
availability.
>> Okay. Thank you.

906
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:08,560
» Thank you, Deputy Warden. Um, I kind of
tend to agree with the with the warden.

907
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:13,600
Uh, this is July 29th, if I'm not
mistaken. Uh, you're looking for what,

908
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:20,640
September
the 8th or or whatever. If if staff

909
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:25,440
can't update another staff member to
stand in for a public information

910
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:30,960
meeting in that amount of time, we're in
serious difficulty. Thank you.

911
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,520
Is that everything?
>> Seeing no one else is speaking, I'm

912
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:37,280
going to ask the director question. Do
you feel that staff would be ready for

913
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:42,080
the ETH if we could if the time
permitted?

914
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:46,320
» Um through Madamorn, yes, we could. Um
again, we always prefer that the planner

915
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:50,719
whose file it is is there for the pin,
but as I said earlier, we could do it.

916
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:54,440
» Thank you. I'm going to pass the chair
back to his warden, please.

917
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:02,920
» All right.
So council what is the wish?

918
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:14,239
We have heard we can split it in two. We
can do it all later. We have indication

919
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:19,840
from staff that if it's council's wish
they can do them all I believe on the

920
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:23,360
8th. Is that correct John?
>> That's correct.

921
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:28,080
» Councelor Rhino.
>> I move that all pals would be directed

922
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,280
to September the 8th.
Do we have a seconder?

923
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,532
» Second that
>> moved and seconded. Is there any

924
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:39,719
discussion on the motion?
[snorts]

925
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:39,719
» Councelor Musa

926
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:47,520
trying here.
>> So the director said he could

927
01:16:46,012 --> 01:16:50,640
[clears throat] move one. So now we're
adding another one.

928
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:54,480
» So we're going to do all four at the
same day.

929
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:59,520
» Yeah. Uh it it it's basically the same
issue. Um, so you know, we could do them

930
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:02,480
all on one night that like doing four on
a night is not usually an issue unless

931
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,640
they're unless they're very
controversial. It was just a matter of

932
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:14,040
who was available. So, you know, whether
we do all four on the eth or not doesn't

933
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,040
uh or three doesn't matter.

934
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,719
» Okay. Thank you,

935
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:27,360
» Councelor Perry. [clears throat]
I can't support the motion based upon

936
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:31,600
the availability of staff and I believe
that we are getting in the weeds in the

937
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:36,719
operation and showing favor favoritism
towards certain applications we want

938
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:40,560
process in a certain time uh for certain
applicants and this does not happen for

939
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:45,920
every applicant that comes in. Thank
you.

940
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:49,920
» Well, councelor Mitchell
>> through you mad and warden to staff is

941
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:55,760
John. You're saying it's doable to do
all four and uh how much time would be

942
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:58,880
required do you think for to get through
four

943
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:02,880
to
>> you never know with a pin madam chair

944
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:08,560
you know could take 10 minutes for an
item or 40 minutes um with these four I

945
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:12,239
I'm sure we'll be out of there in a
couple of hours.

946
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:18,080
» Okay. Okay. If you're comfortable I'm
comfortable.

947
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:22,440
» Any further questions?
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

948
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:32,640
Motion is passed by a vote of nine to
two

949
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:37,360
with counselors Musa and Perry voting
nay. And I would just like to comment

950
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:41,679
that this is not intended to move any
application ahead of any other

951
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:47,360
application. It is intended to keep
these PIMS as close to the regularly

952
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:52,840
scheduled PIM date that these all would
be expecting.

953
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:52,840
Thank you.

954
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:03,600
Okay. Next on our agenda is the
Municipal Firefighter Long Service

955
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:06,960
Awards annual report. I'm guessing
that's Adam.

956
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:12,159
Go ahead.
>> Yeah. uh through you madam warden or uh

957
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:16,640
to council just this is a an item on
your uh correspondence um we could have

958
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,920
a motion to accept it really is an
information item for council we started

959
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:24,000
putting this on your agenda a few years
ago just as an awareness factor for for

960
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:27,760
council as a whole so it's here you can
accept it we process it uh according

961
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:31,760
policy through your annual uh
>> so you don't need a motion for this it's

962
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:37,280
just anformational report
>> correct yeah

963
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:41,199
» okay thank you councelor Rhino Yes,
>> just wanted to point out that there is

964
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:46,080
an error in that the 15 years of service
by Chris Thompson is not through the

965
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:49,320
Kennagook District Fire Department is
through Maitland.

966
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:59,400
Uh three on board. Thank you councelor
for that and uh we'll modify it.

967
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:06,400
» Deputy Warden.
>> Thank you madam warden. Uh question I

968
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:14,960
have about the awards. We present the
awards and the volunteer service these

969
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:18,800
black lapels or labels for them did uh
most times it's a different design like

970
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:23,600
the province federal municipal
government. I do not care for the black

971
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:27,840
ones. I think that we should really look
at a different color more like the

972
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:30,960
province and the other levels of
government. I don't know that's ever

973
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:35,199
been discussed or how that decision
came. has been brought to me by members

974
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:38,159
of Enfield as well as members of uh
Milford.

975
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:40,880
» Adam,
>> yeah, thank you, Madam War. That's

976
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:45,360
something we'll take back to staff. I'm
not sure how many we have in inventory.

977
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:48,800
We we do order them kind of in bulk. Um
but absolutely when we work through our

978
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:53,280
inventory, we could look at a different
uh color selection. I guess the other

979
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:57,040
thing I would say is um that I didn't
mention earlier is these awards, we

980
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:01,199
typically notify the counselors of the
area as part of it. uh they do go to the

981
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:05,840
departments themselves, the 10 and 15
year awards. So sometimes uh counselors

982
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:09,600
may present them, other times the
department will present them themselves.

983
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:14,560
It's a little less formal than your uh
annual awards event as part of the uh

984
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:19,600
volunteer recognition week. Um so we
will uh definitely be uh keeping council

985
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:23,760
informed of the awards in their their
area. Um and then the other piece I'll

986
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,880
note, you have a motion on the books for
uh it'll be coming back to you in

987
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:31,440
September. There was a request from the
fire service around adding in this the

988
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:34,800
the service bars for the station gear.
So we'll have a report forward uh back

989
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:38,400
which is separate from this but it
sometimes the topics can get uh

990
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:42,719
interchanged.
>> Great. Thank you

991
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:47,520
» councelor Rhino.
>> Yeah through you. Did I hear like I I

992
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:51,600
guess the last time that I presented
these sort of to some of my fire

993
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:55,520
departments is that did I hear that's
going to be the case again that you will

994
01:21:53,440 --> 01:22:00,960
contact the counselor from the area to
do this or can you clarify that please?

995
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:05,199
» I think it's usually left up to the fire
department.

996
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:09,360
» Adam
three war I believe uh Amanda reaches

997
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:14,000
out to the the fire departments and also
makes the local counselor aware. Um we

998
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:18,320
we typically leave it up to the
department to determine how they want to

999
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:22,159
present it. Some do it on a general
night. Some do it as part of an awards

1000
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:25,520
banquet. Sometimes um the local
counselors are invited. It's not kind of

1001
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:29,040
a mandatory requirement. Okay. But we do
keep uh everyone informed, but it does

1002
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,239
go to the to the chiefs of the
department. Thank you for allowing me to

1003
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:39,239
clarify that.
>> Thank you.

1004
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,239
» All right. So moving along,

1005
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:45,920
we'll go into our committee reports and
we will start with the corporate and

1006
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:49,960
residential services committee. Uh
councelor Gordon Cole.

1007
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:58,480
The committee held regular meeting on
July 21st, 2026 in council chambers. The

1008
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:02,480
following motions are coming forward as
a result of that meeting. First item,

1009
01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:06,000
carry forwards report. At the end of
March 31st, 2026, there were several

1010
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:10,880
amounts that had been approved in the
2526 budget that had not been entirely

1011
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:14,639
spent. Budget managers requested that
some of these previous budget items be

1012
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,400
approved to be included in the 2627
budget so the work can be finalized. The

1013
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:22,639
corporate and residential services
committee recommends that council ratify

1014
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,880
the transfer to reserves and year-end
carry forward amounts as presented in

1015
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:32,639
the 2526 budget carry forwards request
report dated July 15, 2026 and presented

1016
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:35,199
on July 21st, 2026 be accepted and
approved. As chair of the committee, I

1017
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:37,840
so move
>> second.

1018
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:45,239
» Seconded by councelor Mitchell. Is there
any discussion on the motion?

1019
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:45,239
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1020
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:55,120
Motion has passed unanimously.
>> Second item, housing accelerator fund

1021
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:59,120
allocations report. The municipality was
approved to receive 5.885 million

1022
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:03,440
through the federal housing accelerator
fund in February 24 following a review

1023
01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:07,920
of spending and project timelines after
the March 31st, 2026 fiscal year end.

1024
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:11,280
Staff are recommending updates to
current funding allocations to ensure

1025
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:15,679
all half funding is spent by the
February 23rd, 2028 deadline. The

1026
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,600
corporate and residential services
committee recommends that council

1027
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:24,239
approve the reallocation of half funding
as noted in table one of the July 21st,

1028
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,639
2026 report. As chair of the committee,
I so move.

1029
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:34,639
» Well, that was a tie. Seconded by the
deputy warden. Is there any councelor

1030
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:42,239
Tingley?
Uh question for staff. Uh the 1,135,700

1031
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:50,159
that was taken removed for the lift
station at Highway 277, how will that

1032
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:53,800
impact that uh that work or does it
impact it at all?

1033
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:06,320
» Go ahead, Wade.
Uh from a financial perspective, it

1034
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:10,880
won't impact the work. Um the funding
will have because we can't get that work

1035
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:15,360
done within the time frame needed to
spend it on half. We're simply taking

1036
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:23,040
those half and then allocating it
elsewhere. Uh but we will have to find

1037
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:28,480
funding for that uh elsewhere.
uh and

1038
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:32,239
uh it may be through a debenture at the
moment but we will determine that as we

1039
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:37,040
move forward.
>> Okay. So the brutal honest fact is it

1040
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:42,639
can't be done quick enough to
>> yeah understood

1041
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:45,920
» u and so we'll be looking to find other
funding and exactly

1042
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,400
» and the date when the work will be done
will be determined.

1043
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:52,960
» Yes. Yes.
>> Okay. Thanks.

1044
01:25:50,639 --> 01:26:00,760
Any
further discussion on the motion?

1045
01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:00,760
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1046
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:06,960
» Motion has passed unanimously.
>> The corporate and residential services

1047
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:11,280
committee also recommends that council
direct staff to draft the next iteration

1048
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:15,440
of the half-funding update consider
funding 100% of the Mount UNIAC

1049
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:20,000
streetlight project. As chair of the
committee, I so move.

1050
01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:24,719
» Seconded by councelor Musa. Is there any
discussion on the motion? Councelor

1051
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:28,800
Musa.
>> Uh, thank you, Madame Morton. I guess

1052
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:34,880
Jesse wasn't here last time to ask him
the question. [snorts] So, what happened

1053
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:38,560
with that uh [clears throat] project?
Like, we we were Did we buy all the

1054
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:43,000
lights?
We were supposed to buy them all, right?

1055
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:53,760
uh through Madam Morton as as was talked
and and we updated uh actually there was

1056
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:59,360
a meeting um where we went through the
scope um uh at the Mount Union Pizzeria

1057
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:02,800
actually with with both of you. We went
through the scope of what could be done

1058
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:09,040
and and how many lights were included
and what was out of scope and there was

1059
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:12,880
no wiring availability for a section um
on on what set of roads and so we're

1060
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:17,920
waiting for
uh development expansion which was a

1061
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:22,320
large uh that's in the Long Lake area.
We're waiting for the developer to

1062
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:26,320
potentially go that route and so we
ordered the lights that were available

1063
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:30,080
for spots to go up and that's what we
did on scope. Oh,

1064
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:35,040
» okay. So, we didn't buy the extra the
extra lights. So, okay. Yeah, just

1065
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:39,760
» wasn't sure if we should relocate them
somewhere else if we already bought them

1066
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:47,639
or something. Okay. Thank you.
>> Any further discussion on the motion?

1067
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:47,639
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1068
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:57,679
Motion has passed unanimously.
Item three, potable water options during

1069
01:27:54,480 --> 01:28:01,840
droughts. As its June 24th, 2026
meeting, council directed staff to

1070
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:05,679
explore drought response options with
community organizations and bulk water

1071
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:09,280
carriers and confirmed the municipality
would shift from bottled water

1072
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:13,280
distribution to education, conservation,
and support programs. This report

1073
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:17,440
summarizes staff's findings, including
limited bulk water capacity and review

1074
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:21,199
of rain barrel programs. The corporate
and residential services committee

1075
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,800
recommends that council direct staff to
have the municipal climate change action

1076
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:28,800
plan include an initiative on water
scarcity and drought resilience planning

1077
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:32,320
as part of the plan update and to
include a timeline and resources

1078
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:35,199
associated with the plan. As chair of
the committee, I so move.

1079
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:41,280
» Second.
>> Seconded by councelor Mitchell. Is there

1080
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:45,560
any discussion on the motion?
>> Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1081
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,800
Motion has passed unanimously.
>> The corporate residential services

1082
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,080
committee also recommends that council
direct staff to include a water

1083
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:00,000
conservation assistance program with a
total program budget of 50,000 to

1084
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:04,639
support the purchase of rain barrels or
water storage totes for eligible

1085
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:08,400
residential properties in the 2728 draft
budget for further discussion. As chair

1086
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:11,199
of the committee, I so move.
>> Second.

1087
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:18,600
» Seconded by the deputy warden. Is there
any discussion on the motion?

1088
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,600
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1089
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:28,560
Motion has passed unanimously.
Item four, fire service review. At its

1090
01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:32,320
March 26th regular meeting, council
directed staff to report on options for

1091
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:35,760
a fire service review. Since then,
provincial developments related to the

1092
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:39,840
fire service governance have emerged.
The July report proposed a fire services

1093
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,440
master planning framework, including a
community risk assessment, and fire

1094
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:47,120
protection service review to help
council proactively assess current

1095
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:50,800
service delivery, future needs, and
long-term planning ahead of provincial

1096
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:55,199
timelines. Based on subsequent
discussion at the July 23rd regular

1097
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:58,560
meeting of council policy, and in camera
meeting, and further clarification, the

1098
01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:02,719
following updated wording is
recommended. that council authorized the

1099
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:07,199
chief administrative officer to
undertake a fire protection service

1100
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:12,719
review and a fire services master plan
with a project budget of 150,000 to be

1101
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:17,600
funded from GTR contingency reserve and
further that engagement with council be

1102
01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:21,679
done after each stage of the process and
that we thank the East Hanss Fire

1103
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:25,920
Service Association for their June 2026
letter and respond with the following.

1104
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:29,360
council is supportive of funding a fire
service master planning process in

1105
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:34,400
collaboration with the East Hanss Fire
Service Association and that the EHFSA

1106
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:38,480
will be invited to participate in the
full process in a format to be

1107
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:41,840
determined by the chiefs and that the
municipality will utilize the results of

1108
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:45,440
the community risk assessment to
complete a fire protection service

1109
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:50,080
review as part of a fire service master
plan in collaboration with the EHFSA

1110
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:53,360
and that due to the significant
investment being made by council and the

1111
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:59,199
anticipated participation of of the
AHFSA. The results of the fire service

1112
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:02,840
master plan will be binding.
I so move.

1113
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:10,719
» Seconded by councelor
Perry I think was first and a direct uh

1114
01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:13,840
deputy warden.
>> Thank you madam chair. Guess the

1115
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:19,199
question I have one pri says and that
the ehfsa will be invited to participate

1116
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:22,800
in the full process in a format to be
determined by the chiefs. I'm taking

1117
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:28,840
that that would include comments from
the fire personnel under that chief's uh

1118
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,840
operation.

1119
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:37,000
I don't think it's actually worded in
there.

1120
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:37,000
» Okay. CO

1121
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:46,000
» through Madame Morton. So, it's
important that the the chiefs are the

1122
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:50,239
group that we we correspond with the
fire service are the chiefs, right? So

1123
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:55,760
it's important for them to come to the
table in the format that they want. Um

1124
01:31:53,280 --> 01:32:00,159
at individual departments
um you know the chief represents the

1125
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:04,239
department. However they gather that
information from their personnel or

1126
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:10,800
whether it's it might be the whole group
that we um that we engage with um it may

1127
01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:15,679
be a subset.
We will look to them to tell us that. Um

1128
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:22,239
and there may also be engagement with
the whole fire service as well. So um

1129
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:27,120
that that is really to make sure that
we're not telling them how we get

1130
01:32:24,639 --> 01:32:32,639
information from them that they come to
the table and and have that say.

1131
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:35,679
» My concern I guess to the CEO is u not
all chiefs relate to the fire service

1132
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:39,440
and I think there's a lot of valuable
firefighters that could contribute

1133
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:44,080
information to this and hoping that we
can include them in that. Yeah, I would

1134
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:49,120
say the consultant that does that
undertakes this work, I am almost

1135
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:53,280
positive they're going to want to engage
with the whole fire service in some

1136
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:58,480
manner. Um, how that looks, we don't
know at this point, but it'll be

1137
01:32:54,719 --> 01:33:01,679
important that the chiefs um
buy into the methodology of

1138
01:33:00,009 --> 01:33:06,480
[clears throat] the the engagement.
>> I appreciate that. Thank you.

1139
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:10,080
» Thank you, Councelor Rhino.
>> Thank you, Madam Warden. So to be clear

1140
01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:15,199
and kind of on that subject,
collaboration then means information

1141
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:19,040
gathering. Would that be correct?
Because

1142
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:23,920
I just want to get that clear because
collaboration means different things to

1143
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:28,960
different people and and some may take
that as municipality and the fire

1144
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:33,280
service are doing this together where
this is review should be somewhat

1145
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:39,040
independent but the information and
should be gathered through the east

1146
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:46,120
fire. So I just want to make I want to
get this corrected on this uh meaning of

1147
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,120
collaboration

1148
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:54,880
» three a metamorton. Um it absolutely
will be done by an independent

1149
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:59,520
body like through a consultant. Um the
piece we need to be uh mindful of is the

1150
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:02,320
legislation is doing this in
collaboration or in conjunction I'm not

1151
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:05,840
sure of the exact wording of the
legislation but involving our fire

1152
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:11,440
service providers. Mhm.
>> So, um we do uh and we have a great

1153
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:14,800
relationship with with the East Hands
Fire Service. So, it's a really good

1154
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:18,560
opportunity for council uh and them to
be undertaking this together. So,

1155
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:24,159
collaboration um means they they need to
be part of the process. You know, we're

1156
01:34:20,719 --> 01:34:28,320
going to um work through that um with
them uh with how they as the CEO

1157
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:32,800
mentioned how they want to be engaged
and we'll be going through the chief's

1158
01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:36,080
association as our starting point um to
to start to ask those questions.

1159
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,159
Okay.
>> So, so collaboration

1160
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:44,400
um they need to be part of the process.
It won't necessarily mean that they're

1161
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:51,120
driving the process, but they need to be
involved in a meaningful uh way. Uh

1162
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:55,280
yeah. So, I guess my concern is we make
that perfectly clear up front that

1163
01:34:53,840 --> 01:35:00,480
they're independent from this
independent person doing this, but the

1164
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:06,320
they are there for information gathering
and uh questions being asked of them. I

1165
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:12,880
just don't want them to think this is
part and parcel uh us and the review

1166
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:17,440
person are uh are doing this together
and I think it has to be independent

1167
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:21,639
really. I really do.
>> Thank you.

1168
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,639
» Thank you.

1169
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:30,840
Any further questions on the motion?
Seeing none, we will go to the vote.

1170
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:37,600
Motion has passed unanimously
>> that until the fire service review is

1171
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:41,920
complete, council requires any projects
using fire levies that relate to capital

1172
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:45,360
spending to be approved by council. I so
move

1173
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:50,320
» seconded by councelor he [clears throat]
councelor Musa.

1174
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:54,639
» I sorry I will not be supporting this
motion. I know we have few fire

1175
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:59,120
department and already have some capital
budget and they're saving some money for

1176
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:02,719
it and anything that come to council
could put them behind and they could

1177
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:07,760
they could miss out on a on a buy or
something. So, they've been doing it

1178
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:10,639
forever and they're the one on on the
ground. They know what they need. They

1179
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:15,440
know what they want. They know where the
fire station is going to go. So, I will

1180
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:19,600
not be supporting this. I I will rely on
the experience of my firefighter before

1181
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:24,400
I rely on anybody here. Thank you.
Councelor

1182
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:32,080
Rhino Megaw Warren. I understand the pro
the process of this. However, my concern

1183
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:36,800
lies if there is
if there is something that has to be

1184
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:42,320
made a decision on quickly. Will that
not hold up that process by having to

1185
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:48,520
come to council for a decision? And this
is where that I'm I'm really concerned

1186
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:48,520
about this.

1187
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:57,199
I think perhaps to answer that first, we
should uh

1188
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:01,040
we should perhaps the wording of this
motion is capital spending

1189
01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:06,080
» and I don't want to go into specific.
>> I believe it would be major capital

1190
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:14,480
projects or something. I'm I'm not
thinking that um I don't know if a fire

1191
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:19,520
department needs to buy six new BAS that
they would have to come to council. So I

1192
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:24,199
just would go back to staff to see if
there's something that you know

1193
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:34,080
CIO
through you Madame Warden. The intent

1194
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:39,199
here is for like major capital projects
that wouldn't be sort of rush spending

1195
01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:46,480
um things that would involve some
long-term planning. Um and again if if

1196
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:51,119
fire departments have contracts let for
things then you know that's not included

1197
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:55,920
in this because they they do their own
procurement and if they have contractual

1198
01:37:52,960 --> 01:38:03,840
obligations that wouldn't be included.
This would be any new spend um that

1199
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:09,199
should be long like have long-term
planning attached to it.

1200
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:14,320
Well, I guess I I think we were on
camera the last time we discussed this

1201
01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:19,520
and I brought up a specific uh uh item
and and I just don't want to we may

1202
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:26,159
things may have to be acted on on
quickly and to hold this up or may pro

1203
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:31,679
possibly lose an opportunity because of
the time frame has got me concerned.

1204
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:39,760
I like I say, I understand the purpose
of it, but I'm just I'm wondering if we

1205
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:43,679
could give the CAO a little bit of room
to

1206
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:48,320
authorize something.
>> Well, I was going to say perhaps um it

1207
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:52,159
has been in the past, if I could weigh
in, when fire departments have had

1208
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:57,360
something come up quickly that they
needed approved, we have called

1209
01:38:54,239 --> 01:39:01,760
emergency meetings to uh to deal with
those requests. And I don't think any it

1210
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:05,119
can be done by Zoom,
>> you know, if it's a one item thing. And

1211
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:10,159
I don't think any counselor ever
objected to coming together to vote on

1212
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:14,400
whether or not to release money for a
>> if that's the way we can do this. I I I

1213
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:17,679
would be happy with that, but I just put
people on notice that that could very

1214
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:23,280
well happen. So
>> So I mean, do we need that added to the

1215
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:29,360
motion or is that just simply understood
that that's okay, Madam Board? If we got

1216
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:34,560
a request at, you know, August 10th that
they had to know by August 17th or so

1217
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:36,560
it's something then we would call a a
meeting of council.

1218
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,239
» Thank you.
>> By Zoom, not

1219
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:47,480
» so there be. Thank you. That
>> that helps. Thank you.

1220
01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:47,480
» Any further discussion?

1221
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:52,199
Seeing none, we will go to the vote.

1222
01:39:55,679 --> 01:40:02,880
And the motion is passed by a vote of 10
to one

1223
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,920
with councelor Musa voting nay.
>> Item five, 202526 annual report

1224
01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:12,080
including the treasures report. The CEO
and director of finance presented the

1225
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:16,239
202526 annual report including
treasurer's report. Discussion ensued

1226
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:18,960
and questions were addressed by staff.
Corporate and Residential Services

1227
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:23,760
Committee recommends that council
accepts the 202526 East Hance annual

1228
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:27,119
report including treasures report and
that it be made available to the public.

1229
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:30,719
As chair of the committee, I so move
>> second.

1230
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:38,760
» Seconded by councelor Miriam. Any
discussion on the motion?

1231
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,760
Seeing none, we will go to the vote.

1232
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:47,760
Motion has passed unanimously. Item six,
D land management proposed D corridor

1233
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:53,440
legacy encroachments policy and the
municipal fee policy. During the July

1234
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:57,600
2020 20 July 23rd 2026 regular meeting
of council and policy and in camera

1235
01:40:55,679 --> 01:41:01,520
meeting council gave notice of intent to
two policy updates and council can now

1236
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:06,000
consider approving the dates to those
policies followed the required 7-day

1237
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:10,320
notice period that council consider
adoption of the D corridor legacy

1238
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:15,440
encroachments policy as presented and
attached to the July 23rd 2026 regular

1239
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:18,320
meeting of council policy and in camera
agenda. I so move

1240
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:23,360
» second
>> seconded by councelor Mitchell. I'm

1241
01:41:21,199 --> 01:41:26,320
going to ask the deputy warden to take
the chair. [snorts]

1242
01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:30,480
» Okay, madam wooden, go ahead, please.
>> Just a brief comment. Uh certainly a lot

1243
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:35,280
of hard work and an excellent report
from staff, but as I said at the

1244
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:39,600
committee meeting, I cannot in good
conscience vote in favor for the simple

1245
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:47,840
reason that I would have preferred a
more robust uh encroachment policy for

1246
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:54,159
the residents affected. Um an
encroachment license that uh could have

1247
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:58,800
uh more easily followed with the
property in case of sale or things like

1248
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:02,080
that. I I just would have preferred a
little more protection for the

1249
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,080
residents. Thank you.
>> Would you like me to finish this?

1250
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:09,239
» Sure.
>> See anyone else to speak? Call for the

1251
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:09,239
vote.

1252
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:15,440
» I'll pass the chair back to Madam
Warden. Thank you.

1253
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:20,960
» And motion is passed by a vote of 10 to
one with myself voting nay. That council

1254
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:24,639
approve added adding encroachment fees
to the municipal fee policy as attached

1255
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:30,960
to the regular meeting of council policy
and in camera agenda dated July 23rd

1256
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:34,320
2026. I so move
>> second.

1257
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:41,000
» Seconded by councelor Tingley.
Discussion on the motion.

1258
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:41,000
We'll go to the vote.

1259
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:50,320
The motion is passed by a vote of 10 to
one. Once again with myself voting nay.

1260
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:55,520
» This concludes the report.
>> Thank you.

1261
01:42:52,639 --> 01:43:02,159
Next we will go to parks, wreck and
culture with councelor Rhino.

1262
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:06,400
» Hey madam warden committee held it
regular meeting on July 21st 2026 and

1263
01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:09,840
councelor chambers. The following
motions are coming forward as a result.

1264
01:43:09,821 --> 01:43:16,560
» [clears throat]
>> Tinsmith shop museum operating options

1265
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:22,960
following the east east historical
society's annual general meeting and

1266
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:30,080
successful completion of the governance
review requirements and municipality

1267
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:34,000
released the 2026 operating staff
funding.

1268
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:38,000
So fun that the parks recreation and
culture committee recommends that

1269
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:44,000
council continue the current partnership
model with the east museum

1270
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:49,440
society there I I said the eastance
historical that should be corrected to

1271
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:53,679
the east museum society so I'll start
again continue that the current

1272
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:59,199
partnership model between the east
museum society and the municipality with

1273
01:43:56,719 --> 01:44:04,320
the municipal staff providing support to
strengthen the governance and operation

1274
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:09,600
and request that the society develop a 3
to fiveyear operational plan to help

1275
01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:15,199
guide future operations and plan for
available grant funding and encourage

1276
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:19,840
the society to pursue additional grant
opportunities to strengthen its

1277
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:25,280
operations and reduce reliance on
municipal funding and enlist a

1278
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:31,360
structural engineer to assist the
building structure for better long-term

1279
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:37,600
planning up to $8,000 HST
from professional fees reserve and that

1280
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:43,199
the East Hance Museum so Society be
required to present to council as part

1281
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:47,840
of the 2728 budget discussions as chair
of the committee. I do so moved

1282
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:55,480
» moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the motion?

1283
01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:55,480
» Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1284
01:44:56,639 --> 01:45:04,639
» And the motion has passed unanimously.
This concludes my report.

1285
01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:10,960
» Thank you. Next, we will move to the
infrastructure and operations committee.

1286
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:14,239
Councelor Perry.
>> Thank you, Madam Warden. The committee

1287
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:17,840
held its regular meeting on July 21st,
2026 in council chambers. The following

1288
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:22,800
motions are coming forward as a result
of that meeting. Snow clearing standards

1289
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:27,119
for Mount Uniak Business Park and
Municipal Roads. Staff presented a

1290
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:31,760
report outlining a standalone service
level to allow staff to utilize current

1291
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:35,440
contractor availability and gain a
better understanding of the potential

1292
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:39,280
challenges posed by conducting snow
clearance operations in the UNIAC

1293
01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:43,600
business park. The current contract for
snow clearing runs through 2728 fiscal

1294
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:47,760
cycle and this would allow for
additional updates at that time. As a

1295
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:50,960
result, updates to the policy were
suggested. The infrastructure and

1296
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:54,719
operations committee recommends that
council approve the East Hance policy

1297
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:59,520
for winter clearing standards for roads
and sidewalks as presented to the

1298
01:45:56,480 --> 01:46:03,679
committee on July 21st, 2026 and that
council approve the East Hance policy

1299
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:09,600
for winter clearing standards for roads
and sideswalks as attached to the July

1300
01:46:06,239 --> 01:46:12,320
21st 26 committee agenda. As chair of
the committee, I so move.

1301
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:17,679
» Second.
>> Seconded by councelor Mitchell. Is there

1302
01:46:14,239 --> 01:46:21,960
any discussion on the motion?
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1303
01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:31,360
» Motion has passed unanimously.
>> Bylaw IO300-2,

1304
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:34,400
an amendment to BO IO 300, a bylaw
respecting the regulation of connection

1305
01:46:32,719 --> 01:46:38,800
and discharges to public sewer system
updates was dealt with earlier in the

1306
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:42,159
meeting. So, this concludes the report.
>> Thank you.

1307
01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:46,880
Next, we will go to the planning
advisory committee report. Councelor

1308
01:46:44,639 --> 01:46:51,119
Mitchell.
Thank you, Madam Warden. The committee

1309
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:55,840
held its regular meeting on July 21st,
2026 in council chambers. The following

1310
01:46:53,840 --> 01:47:00,880
motions are coming forward as well this
meeting.

1311
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:05,760
Number one, plan 26-004 Andrew and Julie
Gilby red designation resoning infill

1312
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:10,480
first reading which was dealt with at
the public hearing. Number two, plan

1313
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:15,920
26-009
Swinks Agro Engineering Limited land use

1314
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:20,400
bylaw amendment. The municipality has
received an application from Switz Agro

1315
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:24,719
Engineering Limited on behalf of the
Atlantic Borers Limited to amend the

1316
01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:30,080
land use bylaw to reduce the minimum
setback requirement for an intensive

1317
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:36,080
livestock operation use from the public
road to the rural use

1318
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:39,520
rural use north zone.
The planning advisory committee

1319
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:44,400
recommends the council direct staff to
seek comments from the east hands

1320
01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:48,400
agriculture advisory committee on the
applicants to amend the municipal

1321
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:53,520
planning strategy and land use ped to
allow an intense livestock operation in

1322
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:59,040
the rural use north zone which does not
meet the minimum se separation distance

1323
01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:02,800
in section 5.2.3
to be considered by development

1324
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:08,560
agreement and authorize staff to
schedule a public information meeting.

1325
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:13,760
As chair of the committee, I so move
>> seconded by councelor Rhino. Is there

1326
01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:18,119
any discussion on the motion?
>> Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1327
01:48:18,985 --> 01:48:26,480
[clears throat] Motion has passed
unanimously.

1328
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:31,040
» Number three, plan 26 as 007 Barry Hill
and Darren Lawrence development

1329
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:36,480
agreement of final report. It was dealt
with at the public hearing. Number four,

1330
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:40,960
amendments to official community plan
regarding setbacks from cemeteries.

1331
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:46,400
Council directed staff to prepare
amendments to the east end official

1332
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:51,840
community plan that would enable the
subdivision of properties containing

1333
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:56,239
places of worship, former places of
worship from cemeteries. Council

1334
01:48:54,239 --> 01:49:02,560
directed that these amendments should
enable reduced setback

1335
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:06,400
setback area and frontage requirements
to permit the cemeteries and the

1336
01:49:04,719 --> 01:49:10,560
buildings to be relocated on separate
lots. The planning advisory committee

1337
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:14,400
recommends that council authorize staff
to schedule a public information meeting

1338
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:19,679
to consider an application for
amendments to the missile planning and

1339
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:24,800
subdivision bylaw to allow the
subdivision of places of worship former

1340
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:30,239
place of worship from cemeteries and all
zones where there is deed access to both

1341
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:34,560
lots. As chair of the committee, I so
moved.

1342
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:41,960
» Seconded by councelor Rhino. Is there
any discussion on the motion?

1343
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,960
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1344
01:49:44,159 --> 01:49:50,239
» Motion has passed unanimously.
>> Number five,

1345
01:49:48,719 --> 01:49:56,159
municipal planning strategy policy
regarding 100 units max in the DA

1346
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:59,600
initial report. Planning and development
staff have been directed to change the

1347
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:04,800
MPS
to not entertain any developments over

1348
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:09,040
100 units without a second access to an
arterial or collector road by

1349
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:16,400
development agreement.
This report proposes a new policy.

1350
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:20,159
» I'm sorry it's turned off. You saw me
turn it off.

1351
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:24,400
» This report proposes a new policy to be
added to

1352
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:29,520
» part D. Realizing the plan of the
missile planning strategy MPS to address

1353
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:32,960
council's direction, the planning
advisory committee recommends that

1354
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:37,360
council authorized staff to schedule a
public information meeting to consider a

1355
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:43,040
council proposal to amend the municipal
planning strategy by adding a new policy

1356
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:46,800
to part D realizing the plan which would
only permit council to consider

1357
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:51,920
development agreements for more than 100
dwelling units where a proposed multiple

1358
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:57,360
unit development is serviced by more
than one access to a collector or

1359
01:50:55,280 --> 01:51:01,360
arterial street. As chair of the
committee, I so moved.

1360
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:05,440
» Do we have a seconder?
>> Seconded by councelor Mcy. Councelor

1361
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:10,400
Garden Cole.
>> Thank you, Madam Morton. I I just wanted

1362
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:15,199
to comment on this because I've been on
the fence about this topic since it

1363
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:25,040
first came up and [snorts] I see the
need for action in this area, but I just

1364
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:29,679
can't decide what action is appropriate.
So, I was on the Lucasville Road the

1365
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:33,760
night that um they were evacuated from
Hammond's Plains area back a number of

1366
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:38,480
years ago when the fires happened. And
one thing that I keep going back to is

1367
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:42,400
that they were exiting on the sackful
end because they weren't permitted to

1368
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:49,920
exit on the Hammonds Plains end of that
road. And [clears throat] while the ex

1369
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:57,280
the the evacuation was steady, it wasn't
uh panicked uh crazy like it would have

1370
01:51:54,560 --> 01:52:01,440
been in a subdivision or or in a more
densely populated area where everybody

1371
01:51:59,599 --> 01:52:05,520
was desperate to get out all at the same
time where the houses are a little more

1372
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:12,719
staggered. It was it was a steady
evacuation process.

1373
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:19,119
And I just keep thinking about that and
wondering if by making a blanket motion

1374
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:25,520
that the whole municipality is going to
be under this 100 dwelling units limit

1375
01:52:22,239 --> 01:52:33,520
that it might not be the best thing for
the entire municipality. That maybe we

1376
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:37,920
should be looking at breaking this type
of motion down to

1377
01:52:37,712 --> 01:52:44,480
» [snorts]
>> more densely populated areas versus more

1378
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:49,760
rural areas or roads that could possibly
be evacuated

1379
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:53,840
uh with less of a uh urgency or less
chaos and panic. Obviously, if you're on

1380
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:59,040
a street that has three or four
apartment buildings or you're in a very

1381
01:52:55,679 --> 01:53:02,239
densely populated area, you are going to
everybody's going to be trying to leave

1382
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:06,880
at the same time. So, if you've got
apartments and there's two apartments

1383
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:13,280
with 72 units and everybody's got two
vehicles, everybody will literally be

1384
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:17,440
trying to get, you know, 144* 2 out at
the same time if they're being

1385
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,599
evacuated. And I just see that as being
different from even though there's only

1386
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:25,920
one exit on a long road that might be in
Enfield or it might be in Mount Unia

1387
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:31,840
area or it might be somewhere else that
people it's going to be more of a

1388
01:53:28,639 --> 01:53:38,000
staggered exit or a steady exit not so
much of a of a panicking chaotic exit as

1389
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:42,159
it would be in a more densely populated
area.

1390
01:53:39,599 --> 01:53:47,760
So that's what that's what I have come
up with and

1391
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:52,800
» as a result result of that I would like
to make a motion. Now there is already a

1392
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:57,639
motion on the floor. So what if my
motion is different from the motion on

1393
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:57,639
the floor?

1394
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:06,400
What what's my pro what's my options?
>> If it's a different motion we would have

1395
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:09,760
to deal with this motion first I
believe.

1396
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:16,239
» So I can't You can
>> you can move to table this motion.

1397
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:19,040
» So there's no way of amending this
making an amendment to this motion.

1398
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:25,199
» Well, that would depend on what the
amendment was because the the intent of

1399
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:29,280
this motion is for
council would only consider development

1400
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:33,119
agreements for more than a 100 dwelling
units where a proposed multiple unit

1401
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:37,920
development is serviced by more than one
access. So

1402
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:41,760
you would be very limited in what you
could make for an amendment. I believe

1403
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:45,119
that wouldn't change the intent of that
motion.

1404
01:54:42,639 --> 01:54:49,679
» Okay.
>> So, and I mean I don't know if council

1405
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:56,800
has an appetite for this, but I just
feel like it's it's uh it's worth making

1406
01:54:53,840 --> 01:55:02,239
a uh it's worth putting a motion out
there that we this is the this would be

1407
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:06,000
what my motion would be given the
opportunity. I just want to lay it out

1408
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:11,040
there for council is that we look at
putting a 100 limit on more densely

1409
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:14,719
populated areas and that would have to
be determined.

1410
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:20,560
» Yeah, there'd have to be some more
clarity to that.

1411
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:24,159
» Okay. So, I guess I would be looking for
a motion to table this motion that's on

1412
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:29,599
the floor.
>> You can make that motion if you desire.

1413
01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:33,199
» Okay. So, I'm going to make a motion to
table this motion.

1414
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:36,080
That's my motion.
>> Is there a seconder for the motion to

1415
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:41,520
table?
>> There is no debate on the motion to

1416
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:45,400
table. So, we'll vote on the motion to
table this motion.

1417
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:58,480
And the motion has failed by a vote of 8
to3

1418
01:55:56,159 --> 01:56:02,880
with councelor Rhino, councelor Perry,
and councelor Garden Cole voting in

1419
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:07,440
favor to table and everyone else voting
nay.

1420
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:10,440
Okay, we'll go back to the motion on the
floor.

1421
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:20,560
Uh, it hasn't changed, Sher. Oh, wait. I
can do that myself. Never mind.

1422
01:56:17,199 --> 01:56:26,400
Okay, CIO, have you wished to speak?
Okay, councelor Perry.

1423
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:30,560
» Thank you, Madame Warden. And as along
the same lines as uh councelor Garden

1424
01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:35,840
Cole, I believe this is this is
overregulation. And uh I I do not

1425
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:39,679
believe in blanketing anything. We
should be looking at things on a

1426
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:44,159
case-byase basis. Uh because there are
always many contributing factors in any

1427
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:48,320
development which can be access to
water, length of road, uh frontage and

1428
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:52,719
and many different things. And just
putting a blanket thing out there for

1429
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:58,960
100 dwelling units and requiring these
two things might take care of five or

1430
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:04,960
you know 70% but there's still 25% that
can be be there. And I just don't think

1431
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:10,639
uh this is is good policy. I think it's
uh it's over government regulation. and

1432
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:17,280
I cannot support this motion.
>> Thank you, councelor Musa.

1433
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:22,800
» Uh, thank you, Madam Morton. I'm glad
councelor Gen Cole mentioned that, but

1434
01:57:19,599 --> 01:57:29,280
we're comparing Hammonds Plane Road or
like Hammonds Plane Road to

1435
01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:33,119
all old Anfield Road, not degrading old
road, but hardly any people on that. So,

1436
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:37,360
if you have a 100 homes, you could
evacuate that in no time.

1437
01:57:34,719 --> 01:57:42,960
» Correction, we're not doing that. We're
we're not comparing Hammond's Plains. We

1438
01:57:40,159 --> 01:57:48,480
are simply discussing any development
agreement anywhere

1439
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:51,199
with over a hundred dwelling units. It
could be the old Enfield Road. It could

1440
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:56,480
be
>> like not not even any road in East come

1441
01:57:54,480 --> 01:58:00,960
close to that road like to to what
started the whole thing. That that fire

1442
01:57:59,199 --> 01:58:04,560
started the whole debate about this.
That's why I'm saying we're comparing

1443
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:09,040
that that fire that happened over there
that a possible fire that could happen

1444
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:12,800
here in in East Ens and we forgot that
if we have apartment building you don't

1445
01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:16,159
have to to run away with your car you
could leave your car you have insurance

1446
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:20,480
on your house on your car and you could
run away on foot so there is a lot of

1447
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:25,440
pathway between those apartment building
so we should be looking at something

1448
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:31,520
that encourage our development not
hinder our development and we need that

1449
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:36,480
tax base all the time So I wouldn't be
supporting anything like that. So we

1450
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:42,639
should be looking at some new strategy
and look what where each look at each

1451
01:58:39,599 --> 01:58:47,599
area by by itself. Like we have some uh
I could state couple area in mount uniak

1452
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:52,159
that it's a dead end street like uniak
mines road have 10 houses on it and they

1453
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:56,239
have one subdivision of 100 homes and
we're we're stopping everything over

1454
01:58:53,679 --> 01:59:00,960
there. So I I don't think that's good
governance that's hindering development

1455
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:06,560
and we should be looking at something
could be save could be safe but could be

1456
01:59:03,599 --> 01:59:12,320
open to to new ideas, new development,
new thing going on. Thank you.

1457
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:16,480
» Okay, councelor Tingley.
>> Uh through the chair, I'm going to

1458
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:20,800
support the motion uh because I think
it's in line with the fires smart

1459
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:25,840
guidelines from what I understand. Uh,
and I haven't heard anybody else present

1460
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:31,199
anything any better or if if somebody
can present something that's uh can

1461
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:34,639
alleviate that concern, I'd be happy to
hear it. Uh, the other thing, we're

1462
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:38,800
going to a py. We're not making a
decision here tonight to uh to do this.

1463
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:41,679
We're going to go to a public public
information meeting. I would like to

1464
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:46,800
hear what the public has to say about
it. Uh, it's a big issue, not just here,

1465
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:51,840
right across Canada. So, I wouldn't want
to shut it down without going to a pin.

1466
01:59:49,119 --> 01:59:51,840
That's it.

1467
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:58,159
Council Rhino.
>> Thank you, Madam Warden. I will not be

1468
01:59:55,840 --> 02:00:04,239
supporting the motion because just for
the fact I know it's going to the motion

1469
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:09,760
is to go to appeal. However, I think
Councelor Garden Cole has brought up

1470
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:15,760
another idea and aspect and I think we
would be doing our due diligence if we

1471
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:21,679
took a little breather, listen to what
her motion might a it or might say and

1472
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:26,639
then get a staff report on that. It may
be something that that may be doable.

1473
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:32,080
So, I don't know the why the rush on
this. However, I'll respect the will of

1474
02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:36,239
will of council, but uh I cannot support
this meeting or this motion, excuse me,

1475
02:00:34,558 --> 02:00:40,159
[laughter]
>> councelor McI.

1476
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:43,840
» Oh, thank you, Warden. It seems to be a
bit of confusion here when we talk about

1477
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:47,520
things like the old Enfield Road. Well,
you could go to [clears throat] trunk

1478
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:52,880
14. You can come out to trunk two.
There's two ways out any place off of

1479
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:57,040
the old Enfield Road. If there were 100
homes in the road I live on, you could

1480
02:00:55,119 --> 02:01:04,800
go to trunk two. You could go to Route
224. There would be two ways out. If you

1481
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:10,480
are in the New Havenwood development and
there's 150 homes in there, there's only

1482
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:16,960
one way out to trunk two. So, that's the
kind of scenario we're talking about.

1483
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:22,480
And yeah, it's fires smart. If you read
it, that's what this is in line with.

1484
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:26,560
And it is a P a pin that we're talking
about. Not making a final decision on

1485
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:31,639
anything. So, I'll certainly be
supporting the uh motion. Thank you,

1486
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:40,000
» John.
>> Uh thank you, Madam War. From a couple

1487
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:44,800
of comments, I just want to uh maybe
clarify that this only applies to when a

1488
02:01:43,199 --> 02:01:48,080
development agreement is triggered. So,
if you're on an existing road, you have

1489
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:52,239
an existing lot, doesn't matter if
there's more than 100 dwelling units on

1490
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:55,840
that street, whether it's UNIAC mines or
whatever, you can still build a house

1491
02:01:53,599 --> 02:02:01,199
there. This is only when you're a
development agreement is triggered for

1492
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:08,679
multi-unit development.
>> Thank you. Any further comments or

1493
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:08,679
questions? Councelor Musa.

1494
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:17,159
» So, so you consider reszoning as a
development as something like that too

1495
02:02:14,159 --> 02:02:17,159
or

1496
02:02:19,199 --> 02:02:24,800
» or subdividing or something like that?
So,

1497
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:29,040
» yeah. Well, so there's there's existing
regulations that would impact your

1498
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:33,040
ability to subdivide. That is the 100
lot rule. So, right now, council does

1499
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:37,920
have in the subdivision bylaw rule that
prevents you from um creating more than

1500
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:43,199
100 lots with one access. So, that's
separate from this 100 unit rule. Um and

1501
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:46,639
you know, okay,
>> but where the lots have already been

1502
02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:48,400
created, then nothing's going to stop
you from getting a building permit

1503
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:54,400
there.
>> Thank you.

1504
02:02:50,719 --> 02:02:58,920
Any further comments or questions?
Seeing none, we will go to the vote.

1505
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:07,320
And the vote is passed by a vote of 7
to4

1506
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:15,480
with councelor Musa, councelor Rhino,
councelor Perry, and councelor garden

1507
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:15,480
cole voting nay.

1508
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:23,360
» Oops.
Sorry, Councelor Mitchell. [laughter]

1509
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:26,560
Go ahead.
>> The planning advice committee recommends

1510
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:31,920
the council direct staff to come back
with a report on secondary access

1511
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:37,280
options across the municipality to make
the community safer. As chair of the

1512
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:43,119
committee, I so moved.
>> Seconded by councelor McY. Is there any

1513
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:47,239
discussion on the motion?
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1514
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:57,040
Motion has passed unanimously.
>> Number six, plan review what we heard

1515
02:03:55,280 --> 02:04:02,239
report.
Planning advisory committee received a

1516
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:07,599
report summarizing public consultation
in the plan review. To date, East has

1517
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:12,239
sought active engagement from East
residents and property owners through

1518
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:16,960
visioning meet visioning meetings,
surveys, and interest holder meetings.

1519
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:22,159
Community engagement will continue
throughout the planning process through

1520
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:26,239
community meetings, social media posts,
and direct engagement with property

1521
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:31,360
owners whose property may be considered
for a land use designation

1522
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:37,520
and zone change.
Number seven, pre-application policy

1523
02:04:34,639 --> 02:04:42,719
requests. The committee considered two
requests under council's pre-application

1524
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:47,280
policy. This policy enables developers
an opportunity to request a discussion

1525
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:52,480
with PAC regarding a proposed
development in CRA prior to an

1526
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:56,880
application being submitted. The
committee approved both requests but has

1527
02:04:55,199 --> 02:05:02,239
directed
that the presentations be held in open

1528
02:04:59,119 --> 02:05:06,320
committee instead of in camera. This
concludes our report.

1529
02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:10,480
» Thank you.
All right. That brings us to the

1530
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:14,480
warden's report. So, I'll turn the chair
over to the deputy warden.

1531
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:20,000
» Okay, mad warden. Go ahead, please.
>> I keep my report very brief this evening

1532
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:26,159
as we still have a couple of inc camera
items to deal with. Um, I did attend the

1533
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:30,560
graduation at Hance North on June the
26th. In spite of the fact that they

1534
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:36,239
were expecting counselor Rhino, and I
know the crowd was disappointed, I did

1535
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:42,480
manage to get through it. Um on the 27th
I I attended the opening of a memorial

1536
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:46,480
park at the Legion in Null which was uh
very enjoyable and well attended and

1537
02:05:44,719 --> 02:05:52,080
they've certainly done a beautiful job
there. attended Canada Day celebrations

1538
02:05:49,599 --> 02:05:57,920
in uh watched the parade in in
Shubanakadi and then took with a friend

1539
02:05:55,280 --> 02:06:02,400
um took a drive down through the shore
and dropped into several of the

1540
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:10,480
locations of interest along the shore
drive and uh did enjoy the day. Um other

1541
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:18,080
than that uh numerous community uh
functions and uh presentations and uh

1542
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:26,400
director's meetings and just on the 27th
um attended uh the director's meeting

1543
02:06:21,599 --> 02:06:31,280
with councelor McI and the MLA where a
public uh photo was taken for the

1544
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:37,040
announcement of the we're getting ready
to begin those new apartments those um

1545
02:06:34,719 --> 02:06:43,520
public housing in Shubanagod. And we're
pleased to say that instead of 16 units,

1546
02:06:40,639 --> 02:06:47,599
there are now going to be 18. So, uh
anyway, that uh that concludes my report

1547
02:06:46,159 --> 02:06:50,239
at this time. Thank you.
>> Thank you, madam. I'm going to pass the

1548
02:06:49,199 --> 02:06:54,159
chair back to you.
>> All right. We'll now move into business

1549
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:57,560
from counselors and we'll start with
councelor Tingley

1550
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:09,360
» uh through the chair. I'm just going to
discuss one item here tonight. Uh

1551
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:15,440
I I I've had a lot of inquiries or yeah
quite a few inquiries actually about

1552
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:21,520
bylaw issues, dust, lights, sewer uh the
sewer system um about uh connecting uh

1553
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:28,000
the sewer into the storm drain and stuff
like that. And uh first I want to prefix

1554
02:07:25,119 --> 02:07:34,320
it by I I I think staff generally
provide good service on everything. But

1555
02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:40,639
uh I end up in with uh dozens of
communication uh when somebody puts in a

1556
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:45,119
uh a concern and says could we look into
the dust from this job site or can you

1557
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:50,159
look into the lighting from this? and
they're all bylaw issues and uh it

1558
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:57,520
doesn't seem like there's a full
explanation or a a prompt response that

1559
02:07:52,719 --> 02:08:03,040
goes back to the uh to the u constituent
and I I like to provide swift accurate

1560
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:09,280
friendly service to people and I don't
know what the timeline is for getting to

1561
02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:14,239
the bottom of something but uh I wish
I'd like to see a a a reasonable

1562
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:20,320
timeline on getting back and making a
decision. whether we're going to uh deal

1563
02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:24,400
with these issues or not. And the issues
are even worse with the province. Uh you

1564
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:31,520
know, like I made a mot couple of
motions that that uh constituents came

1565
02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:38,000
to me uh uh in January. I think I made
the motions around uh Jake Brakes on the

1566
02:08:34,719 --> 02:08:42,320
connector and uh [snorts] uh a crosswalk
on the connector in Lance and it's

1567
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:49,280
crickets. I I don't get anything back
from anybody. Um, and I I don't want to

1568
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:54,480
make a big issue of it, but I would like
to know

1569
02:08:51,040 --> 02:09:01,000
uh through staff, is there timelines on
getting a a firm answer on these things?

1570
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:10,280
» Okay. Well, public member two wants to
speak for some reason. Don't ask me how.

1571
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:17,280
» Okay. Go ahead, John.
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Warden. Um, to

1572
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:21,119
answer the counselor's question, there
there's not directly a specific, you

1573
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:25,920
know, we'll get back to you in 24 hours
or whatever number of days. It's it

1574
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:29,440
really depends on the issue. Um, as soon
as somebody puts a complaint in through

1575
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:34,239
our online portal, they immediately get
a an email back, an automatic email, so

1576
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:41,599
that they know that their complaint has
been received. Um

1577
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:45,360
but we're also careful about um what we
tell complainants uh because it's an

1578
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:48,320
investigation. It's an enforcement
action potentially. So you know you

1579
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:55,119
don't want to jeopardize an
investigation by um you know u

1580
02:09:52,320 --> 02:10:00,880
I guess u telling folks too much but we
do uh probably heir on the side of

1581
02:09:57,679 --> 02:10:06,880
sharing information. Um
and but as I say it depends on the

1582
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:11,280
issue. It depends on um how quickly
staff are able to get to it and and so

1583
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:15,599
on. So there's not a a service standard
per se about getting back to a

1584
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:18,800
complaintant within a specific period of
time.

1585
02:10:16,639 --> 02:10:24,960
» Well, let me give you an example. I I've
got one constituent. He's been

1586
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:30,480
complaining about dust for a year and I
don't know if anybody's gotten back to

1587
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:35,199
him and and confirmed that uh yeah, we
know you have dust. It's reasonable.

1588
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:40,400
it's unreasonable. Uh we're going to do
this or there are precautions being

1589
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:47,280
taken. Uh you know what staff know about
like a year is a long time and like this

1590
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:50,880
particular guy I must have 30 emails and
um

1591
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:55,280
you know he's he's a demanding
constituent. Um, but and I have my own

1592
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:58,800
opinions about it and I'm not trying to
drive staff as to what the ultimate

1593
02:10:56,880 --> 02:11:03,920
decision is, but I don't want to go on
for a year. Uh, like I I don't feel like

1594
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:07,920
I'm providing good service that way,
>> but I do believe and I'll refer to the

1595
02:11:06,079 --> 02:11:11,119
CA on this. I do believe at that
particular instance there have been

1596
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:14,800
responses.
>> Yeah, I Madam Warden, I don't think it's

1597
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:19,760
fair to say he's been complaining for a
year and not gotten a response. We've

1598
02:11:17,119 --> 02:11:22,719
been back and forth several times with
individuals around dust. of it. I don't

1599
02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:25,679
know the person you're speaking about,
but I can assume I know who it is.

1600
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:30,239
» You're right.
>> Um because I'm copied on most of the

1601
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:34,560
emails to and from the individual. Our
bylaw enforcement officer has been

1602
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:40,000
dealing with dust complaints both in
Enfield and Lance. Um but but I would

1603
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:45,280
say in this instance,
bylaw enforcement isn't something that's

1604
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:49,840
done. It's not a back and forth
communication. like you're not going to

1605
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:54,960
get direct communication back to
somebody to say this is like we don't

1606
02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:59,520
update the complainant every step of the
way. We go out and we investigate. It's

1607
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:02,639
not a back and forth between us.
>> I understand this, but let me ask

1608
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:08,639
» right. But but you're making it sound
like we're doing nothing for a year.

1609
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:13,520
» Let me ask a question. And uh do we know
if that contractor is taking reasonable

1610
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:17,599
precautions? Do we know that? From
everything that I've read and the

1611
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:22,800
communication that's been had, yes, I
believe they are and and that has been

1612
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:26,800
communicated.
>> Okay. Well, I'll accept that. I live

1613
02:12:25,119 --> 02:12:32,480
there and I know what the situation is,
but if that's what if that's what staff

1614
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:37,679
says, I'll I'll accept that.
But I don't I I haven't seen anything

1615
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:42,159
that went back to him and said, uh, yes,
they're taken. I believe there's been at

1616
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:44,719
least two mail two emails today saying
that to that

1617
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:47,360
» might have been today, but this has been
for a year,

1618
02:12:45,679 --> 02:12:50,079
» but there have been other emails back
and forth between he and our b law

1619
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:52,079
enforcement officer.
>> Okay.

1620
02:12:50,719 --> 02:12:56,560
» And through you, Madam War, I would say
it's not all the same case. Like if

1621
02:12:53,520 --> 02:13:02,159
somebody put a complaint in last summer,
um that is not the same file as, you

1622
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:05,199
know, a complaint that comes in um six
or eight months later. It's like

1623
02:13:03,679 --> 02:13:08,880
obviously that one has been dealt with
and and so on and now we're it's a new

1624
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:13,440
complaint that we're dealing with.
>> It's a different situation, but I I live

1625
02:13:11,199 --> 02:13:15,520
there and he's sending us photographs.
>> Yeah.

1626
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:18,880
» Like it's well documented.
>> Yeah. And and

1627
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:21,360
» I think counselor, what we're being told
is that staff have received the

1628
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:24,000
complaint
>> and they've dealt with it. Okay.

1629
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:27,199
» And they have dealt with it and they
have been in contact with the

1630
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:30,800
complainant.
>> So the other guy

1631
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:34,560
» and and we continue to be in contact
with the developer. Right.

1632
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:38,079
» We will continue to monitor it because
it is an ongoing

1633
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:44,880
um construction site.
>> Well, the the other couple of situations

1634
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:48,239
uh with the lighting, it was like uh he
was just dropped as far as I'm

1635
02:13:46,239 --> 02:13:53,920
concerned. Like nobody nobody helped
deal with the situation at all. and the

1636
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:59,679
the follow with the sewer. He's been
asking about, you know, can the

1637
02:13:55,760 --> 02:14:05,040
municipality do an investigation into um
uh people dumping their sewer into the

1638
02:14:02,639 --> 02:14:09,599
uh or their their uh storm drainage into
the sewer uh because it's affecting him

1639
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:17,440
where he lives at the bottom of a
street. and uh I don't think he's ever

1640
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:21,280
got a direct answer as to u
whether we can or will do anything to to

1641
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:25,920
investigate it.
>> I do know that staff regularly when they

1642
02:14:23,599 --> 02:14:31,360
become aware of these situations do take
action on that.

1643
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:36,000
» So and through to you madam I would say
this about that particular case that one

1644
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:41,199
is still an open file I would say. So it
hasn't been concluded yet.

1645
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:46,880
» Okay. Uh,
and uh, so anyway, I'm I'm I'm airing

1646
02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:51,520
what my concerns are with with these
people, and some of them have been going

1647
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:54,880
on for a year, and I think uh, they're
open, and they keep following up with me

1648
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:59,199
because they don't think they're getting
an adequate response, and

1649
02:14:57,858 --> 02:15:02,000
[laughter]
I'm going to accept your response here

1650
02:15:00,639 --> 02:15:07,840
that you give me tonight,
>> CO. So through you, Madam Morton, the

1651
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:15,119
bylaw process is a regulated process and
it doesn't involve counselors.

1652
02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:21,840
So, if we receive a bylaw complaint and
it has been investigated and it has not

1653
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:27,199
and and it isn't what the person wants
to see as a resolution, they may come to

1654
02:15:24,639 --> 02:15:30,800
you as their counselor to say this
wasn't what I expected as a resolution

1655
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:36,320
or I'm not happy with the service I
received or whatever that might be. In

1656
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:41,119
that case, you send those to me and then
I will look internally as to what's

1657
02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:45,679
going on. when we get emails being sent
to two different directors in the case

1658
02:15:43,679 --> 02:15:49,520
of dust. Uh we've had a meeting
internally where I've just said there's

1659
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:53,199
too many emails going around about dust
because I can't keep track of who gets

1660
02:15:51,119 --> 02:15:58,079
sent what and then John responds or
Jesse responds and then the bylaw

1661
02:15:55,840 --> 02:16:02,960
officer's responding and then the
counselor sending stuff to one director

1662
02:16:00,719 --> 02:16:07,760
and not the other like it's almost
impossible to to keep track of it all.

1663
02:16:05,599 --> 02:16:11,920
So if we have issues with bylaw
enforcement in particular because it is

1664
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:17,040
a regulated process, those should come
to me and I will sort it out internally

1665
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:21,280
and get back to the counselor whether it
was dealt with appropriately from from

1666
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:24,480
my investigation. And I do investigate
those things like I pull the team

1667
02:16:23,199 --> 02:16:28,960
together and say, "Okay, what have we
done? What should have been done? What

1668
02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:34,000
was expected? Where did we fall down?" I
do all of that. Um and I will respond

1669
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:38,960
back to the counselor. that in
specifically with bylaw enforcement

1670
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:43,359
cases, it is not a back and forth
between staff and counselors,

1671
02:16:41,679 --> 02:16:49,120
staff, counselors, and the the
complainant. Um, that can't be the

1672
02:16:45,359 --> 02:16:52,319
process we follow because it's not it's
just not okay.

1673
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:54,479
» Well, it might not be okay, but if they
don't feel they're getting an answer,

1674
02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:57,120
they're going to they're going to
contact me,

1675
02:16:55,120 --> 02:17:00,479
» right? And then you contact me,
>> right?

1676
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:02,240
» I'm your employee. I I
you're all you're CC to every one of

1677
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:07,679
them.
>> But I'm CC. But but

1678
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:11,519
» just contact me and I will sort it out
and get back to you. And if I feel like

1679
02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:15,679
we've fallen down and not done the right
thing by the complainant, we will I will

1680
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:19,920
» Well, I've got three things here that
have not been sorted out. And

1681
02:17:17,359 --> 02:17:22,639
» I would caution you. I just caution you
to be respectful.

1682
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:27,920
» Well, I'm going to be respectful, but
I'm I'm going to advocate for my

1683
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:32,800
constituents. And the same thing when
dealing with the province uh when we

1684
02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:37,359
when they bring a concern and you raise
it and it goes six months, eight months,

1685
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:44,240
nine months or a year and you get no
response. Uh you know what what h how

1686
02:17:41,599 --> 02:17:50,479
can you even help them? Like does nobody
have to respond to anything?

1687
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:54,960
» You know, is is that's not a fair that's
not a fair question. I'm going to

1688
02:17:52,399 --> 02:18:00,160
address I I believe that's an unfair
question because I do believe that

1689
02:17:57,120 --> 02:18:05,760
municipal staff do do their very best to
reply to everything. The CEO has

1690
02:18:02,479 --> 02:18:09,920
outlined the process that if a counselor
feels that an item has not been dealt

1691
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:14,800
with or that they need further
information on how it's been dealt with,

1692
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:20,639
then the avenue as it has always been is
to go to our one and only employee, the

1693
02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:25,760
CEO, and have her dig a little further.
With regards to the province and their

1694
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:32,240
speed or lack thereof in responding to
things, we have no control over that. We

1695
02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:37,920
can certainly make a call. We can write
another letter, but we have no way of

1696
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:41,200
forcing them to answer any faster than
what they do.

1697
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:46,479
» Well, are we following up?
>> Are we following up?

1698
02:18:44,399 --> 02:18:50,080
» That would depend on the situation.
Council,

1699
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:54,639
» can anybody get a straight answer? So
through you, Madam Warden, the

1700
02:18:52,639 --> 02:19:00,160
» any issues that we send a letter to the
province, and I'll use Jesse as an

1701
02:18:56,639 --> 02:19:04,800
example, um if we send a letter to the
province on an issue, he will follow up

1702
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:09,280
with the province. If we have a meeting
with them on a regional sort of

1703
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:12,399
transportation meeting, those issues all
get brought up from a transportation

1704
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:16,960
perspective. Yeah.
>> Um and then any updates to those motions

1705
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:22,000
that you've made or letters that are
written um will be on your status update

1706
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:27,280
report that you get every month right
before council. You get an update on the

1707
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:32,559
status of things. Um, we can't control
what the province does, but we certainly

1708
02:19:29,679 --> 02:19:37,200
when council has an issue that is they
want brought to the forefront, we try to

1709
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:41,200
keep that at the forefront, but we can't
>> I don't recall ever getting an update on

1710
02:19:39,599 --> 02:19:44,719
after after the motion was made other
than a letter was sent.

1711
02:19:43,439 --> 02:19:47,760
» But I'm not going to
>> but those are followed up with staff.

1712
02:19:46,559 --> 02:19:52,240
So,
>> when we have the opportunity to, we do

1713
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:56,080
follow up with them.
>> Right. I'm not going to beat this to

1714
02:19:53,840 --> 02:20:01,760
death any further. I'm just wanted to
mention it. Uh it is very uncomfortable

1715
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:07,920
when people follow up with you 3 months,
6 months, a year and uh you've got

1716
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:10,920
nothing to report back. That's that's
it.

1717
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:15,560
» Okay. No.

1718
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:25,479
Okay. Next, we will go to councelor
Musa.

1719
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:33,840
soon as I find you here.
Go ahead.

1720
02:20:31,439 --> 02:20:40,240
» Uh, thank you, Madam Morton. I was going
to I had my lights on, but I thought I'm

1721
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:45,359
next so I could ask my question. So, my
question is we have all kind all kind of

1722
02:20:42,319 --> 02:20:50,319
bylaws here. Do we have enough officers
like bylaw officers to

1723
02:20:48,160 --> 02:20:55,920
to address all those? because I know
like sometimes somebody call about blast

1724
02:20:53,600 --> 02:21:00,479
in Mount Yuniaak and you're like 35
minutes away so everything happening

1725
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:06,960
there you're not going to be doing
anything right so but but my question is

1726
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:12,319
sometimes the the the the
resident was asked to contact me so what

1727
02:21:09,439 --> 02:21:17,120
I'm going to do about that so I think if
we have bylaws we should have enough

1728
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:21,520
people to to enforce them or we should
never have them because when when you

1729
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:24,720
have bylaws there the residents uh
expect something from you and if you

1730
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:28,160
don't have anybody to enforce it we
might not have them better. I think it's

1731
02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:32,720
better not to have them. Thank you. Do
>> you have any comment on that John?

1732
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:36,479
» Sure. Thank you madam warden. Um I I
would say we do I mean we have one very

1733
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:40,800
good bylaw enforcement officer right now
and um in addition when he's doing dog

1734
02:21:39,359 --> 02:21:45,200
control we have backup for that
function. Um but remember it's not an

1735
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:49,359
emergency service. So it's not a 911
service. it's a um an investigative

1736
02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:53,920
service that but the idea that
somebody's going to respond immediately

1737
02:21:50,720 --> 02:22:00,160
or within 10 minutes or 30 minutes it
that's really not the way we operate. Um

1738
02:21:57,520 --> 02:22:05,600
and so you know we do we're I think
fairly timely within uh a day or so if

1739
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:09,120
there's a bylaw infraction somebody's
brought to our attention we will get out

1740
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:15,600
and have a look at it um to start an
investigation. Not to say that it would

1741
02:22:10,399 --> 02:22:21,040
be completed, but um yeah, so
I think we do have the resources that we

1742
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:24,000
need right now and um you know,
something I guess we pay attention to

1743
02:22:22,479 --> 02:22:28,200
every year when budget time comes around
to look at staffing.

1744
02:22:28,319 --> 02:22:35,600
» Yeah. I just want to make sure that you
have enough employees for for that. And

1745
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:40,280
uh and that's that's all for for me for
now. Thank you.

1746
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:40,280
» Thank you.

1747
02:22:43,359 --> 02:22:52,920
Councelor Perry.
>> Nothing at this time. Warden,

1748
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:52,920
» Councelor Miam.

1749
02:22:53,840 --> 02:23:00,960
» Uh, great. Uh, thank you, Madam Warden.
And, uh, mine is very short, too. I I

1750
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:06,800
just want to take the opportunity to
extend congratulations to the organizers

1751
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:11,680
of and and the volunteers as well of
Tidefest which happened this past

1752
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:16,800
weekend. Um you know I I went uh a
number of times. Uh it was an excellent

1753
02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:20,720
kind of a homecoming event. Very well
attended. Everyone seemed to be having a

1754
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:26,960
great time. So hats off uh to those
folks. and um other than just general

1755
02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:30,960
constituency type work, nothing uh
nothing to report. Uh no, I'm not

1756
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:35,280
bringing any motions forward at this
time. Thank you.

1757
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:39,200
» Thank you, Deputy Warden.
>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh just a couple

1758
02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:43,680
quick things. Uh I also attended
Tidefest and was quite impressed with

1759
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:46,640
it. Uh Canada Day, I uh Enfield Fire
Department had their breakfast and this

1760
02:23:44,880 --> 02:23:50,399
is the most profitable year they've ever
had, which is the thanks to the

1761
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:54,000
community. And most of the complaints I
got I forward to our MLA and hopefully

1762
02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:58,720
he'll resolve them. The bridge in
Enfield that's uh tying up traffic and

1763
02:23:56,479 --> 02:24:01,840
the dust and all those issues. Um the
only I see coming as an issue maybe in

1764
02:24:00,479 --> 02:24:06,319
the future is we're going to redo the
sidewalks in Enfield and there's so many

1765
02:24:04,399 --> 02:24:10,560
people walking and they have will they
have to walk out in the road or if some

1766
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:15,520
we can address that ahead of time
because there's a to me it's a future

1767
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:20,000
concern that maybe we can look at before
it happens.

1768
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:25,520
» Throwing it right at you Jesse. Uh yeah
through through uh Madame Warden the

1769
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:30,160
there is a sidewalk replacement project
there's two actually on the capital

1770
02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:34,560
budget uh the Enfield a large portion in
Enfield is set to be designed this year

1771
02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:40,240
ideally constructed next year it will be
an expansion in width and a rebase uh so

1772
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:46,720
they're currently
um uh 1.2 two wide, so four feet wide,

1773
02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:51,120
if you will. Um, currently in ashvault
and and it and the base hasn't held up

1774
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:56,800
and so they've got the waves in them, if
you will. Uh, those are being replaced

1775
02:24:52,960 --> 02:25:02,240
with concrete 1.8 m wide and that's how
we're setting up with some accessibility

1776
02:24:59,359 --> 02:25:10,240
features. And so that is is the plan.
There's also um uh staff has gone out

1777
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:13,600
for some pricing for continuous um
sidewalk repairs. Some have already

1778
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:18,399
started. Uh there was some priority
areas of larger holes if you will that

1779
02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:22,399
had to be taken care of first uh in
Milford and then there's some spots in

1780
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:26,800
Lance, but those are all being triaged
this summer and are active now.

1781
02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:29,840
» So that hopefully will help shortterm
and there is the plan for longterm in

1782
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:33,920
Enfield
>> because the long term my concern would

1783
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:37,120
be people having to walk out on the
street when they're doing the

1784
02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:41,040
construction because I know even I'm one
of the walkers now my age I had to do

1785
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:47,680
it.
uh through through Madam Morton st

1786
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:51,520
standard practice is is you there isn't
always a great opportunity to redirect.

1787
02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:56,000
You have to close a sidewalk and and
ideally communicate in advance so the

1788
02:25:54,399 --> 02:26:00,800
public can make alternative routes for
the day that those are are going to

1789
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:06,479
happen. Um, if there is an opportunity
to create a a detour around, that's

1790
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:09,680
ideal. But say I would I would suggest a
lot of those are challenging, especially

1791
02:26:08,080 --> 02:26:14,240
if it's along the number two because
it's such a busy street that redirecting

1792
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:17,439
or alternative routes onto the road
rightway isn't ideal and so we wouldn't

1793
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:20,399
do that as a best practice.
>> Okay, thank you. That's everybody

1794
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:22,800
everything I have. I hope everybody
enjoys the month the bug is off. Thank

1795
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:29,760
you.
>> Thank you.

1796
02:26:25,439 --> 02:26:34,160
Okay, Councelor McI.
>> Uh, thank you, Warden. I am going to

1797
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:40,160
make a motion here, but first I'll just
give a little preamble and it's to do

1798
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:45,359
with the Shibanacity uh the ball field
in Shibonacity at the Shibanaki River

1799
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:52,319
Park. Um,
the lights are old. Uh I was there on

1800
02:26:48,640 --> 02:26:56,720
the 30th of June when the second game of
the night uh they just got started

1801
02:26:54,640 --> 02:27:01,359
played one inning I think the lights
went off on one side they reset them

1802
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:03,680
they played another inning the lights
went off again and the

1803
02:27:03,606 --> 02:27:08,080
» [clears throat]
>> umpires called the game. Now one of the

1804
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:14,000
teams that was participating was from
Cape Breton. So this is a you know has

1805
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:20,640
become an important ball field for the
association and uh the lights are very

1806
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:25,840
old. So uh I'm going to uh move the
council direct staff to bring forward a

1807
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:33,280
Shibanagi ball field light replacement
capital project as part of the 2027 2028

1808
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:37,040
budget discussions.
>> Second.

1809
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:41,600
» Seconded by
councelor Tingley. Is there any

1810
02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:46,240
discussion on the motion?
Councelor Garden Cole.

1811
02:27:44,960 --> 02:27:50,160
» Thank you, Madam Morton. I'm just
thinking so Enfield

1812
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:56,000
the [clears throat] Legion Ballfield had
their lights replaced not that long ago.

1813
02:27:53,439 --> 02:28:01,200
Was that something
that we were a part of? I'm just

1814
02:27:58,160 --> 02:28:03,600
wondering who typically funds
>> We don't own that field. We own the

1815
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:12,080
shooting.
>> Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

1816
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:16,439
Any further discussion on the motion?
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1817
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:24,600
Someone has not voted

1818
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:31,080
and the motion is passed by a vote of 10
to one.

1819
02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:35,720
Councelor Rhino voting nay.

1820
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:46,880
» Okay. Okay. And just a couple other
things, uh, the CBC had a radio and and

1821
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:51,439
also on their news site, uh,
report regarding the Senate half and

1822
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:55,520
Shubinakadi and, uh, council for
district 5 was interviewed and I just

1823
02:28:53,520 --> 02:29:00,000
like to correct one thing. He stated in
his interview that uh, everyone was

1824
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:05,280
happy now and I just want to let council
know that indeed everyone is not happy

1825
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:11,359
in Shanaki with this. I'll just leave
that at that. Uh along that same line,

1826
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:17,680
the rejuvenated uh parking uh area in
Shibanac is looking really good at this

1827
02:29:14,319 --> 02:29:23,200
with the site. Um
that [clears throat] includes the Senate

1828
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:27,520
and uh I see that it looks like the
parking lot's going to be paved next

1829
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:30,640
week. People have been anxious to keep
asking me if this really is going to be

1830
02:29:29,120 --> 02:29:36,080
paved. So, I've been assuring them it
has. So, I'm glad to see that it's going

1831
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:40,080
to be going ahead soon. Um, Heydays was
a huge success. I'd just like to thank

1832
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:44,640
all the volunteers and sponsors and make
the event possible every year. That was

1833
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:49,520
our 40th year. Also, the fireworks
display was exceptional this year. A lot

1834
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:56,080
of people were very impressed and uh
yeah, was great attendance. same as the

1835
02:29:52,880 --> 02:30:00,720
Enfield Legion, the or Fire Department,
the Shibanagi Legion had their biggest

1836
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:05,760
turnout yet for their breakfast and of
course like people pointed out it was on

1837
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:11,040
a Wednesday so more people around. Um
the pro provincial road committee uh

1838
02:30:08,080 --> 02:30:19,439
continues its work and we had a meeting
today with some of the CAOs. Uh um

1839
02:30:16,960 --> 02:30:24,800
it looks like the consultation with
counselors may begin or probably will

1840
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:28,399
have to begin in August. Not uh not
great, but

1841
02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:32,240
if we're going to get the report done in
the timeline that we're probably going

1842
02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:35,600
to have to just do that, it might run
into September with the uh

1843
02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:40,960
consultations.
Also, I have received an email from Don

1844
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:45,200
Smith, Harry Smith's uh nephew, and he
was glad to see that some activity has

1845
02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:51,680
been occurring. Uh he's been following
us. He has been in contact with uh

1846
02:30:47,840 --> 02:30:56,479
Jackie at the uh museum, and he uh made
a donation to the tea party, so that

1847
02:30:54,319 --> 02:31:03,200
they're having in next month, I guess,
August coming right up. And also, I

1848
02:30:59,840 --> 02:31:07,200
attended with the Gordon and the MLA the
housing announcement. So that was

1849
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:11,840
exciting for Shanaki. Thank you.
>> Okay, councelor H.

1850
02:31:09,439 --> 02:31:18,080
» Thank you, Warden. Two or three little
things. Uh July 1st, I was uh present at

1851
02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:23,520
the Hayes and participated in the uh car
show. Couple of uh social events going

1852
02:31:21,040 --> 02:31:28,000
on in the communities around and uh got
to uh socialize with a lot of people

1853
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:34,319
throughout the municipality. And uh one
note that uh we had a longtime resident

1854
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:40,720
of Nim River pass away, Cara Vandoule.
Uh she was 106 years old and uh it was

1855
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:46,479
uh I didn't I knew she was up there, but
I had no idea she was that old. Anyway,

1856
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:52,640
uh I'm going to make a motion here. Um,
Route 14 and Nim River by the Renfruit

1857
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:55,600
Road has been a long time place for cars
leaving the road and because there's a

1858
02:31:54,240 --> 02:31:59,280
couple big intersections, most of them
just they don't go in the ditch, but

1859
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:05,040
over the years I've had several light
poles there and we've had four people uh

1860
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:10,560
lose their life at that intersection.
And uh it's mainly because of the S turn

1861
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:15,680
approaching that Renfruit Road. It's uh
it's very sharp and it's only 70 km, but

1862
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:19,520
most people don't recognize it is 70.
So, [laughter] I'm going to move for the

1863
02:32:17,600 --> 02:32:24,000
municipality to submit a request for an
intersection sign each review along that

1864
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:28,399
section of Route 14 at the intersection
of Renfruit Road and seek approval from

1865
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:32,240
the public works to have a municipally
owned digital speed sign be located on

1866
02:32:30,560 --> 02:32:36,800
the west side of the Renfruit Road
entrance to support drivers awareness of

1867
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:40,640
the S term risk while drivinging
eastbound. Second

1868
02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:49,000
» moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the motion?

1869
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:49,000
Seeing none, we'll go to the vote.

1870
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:54,359
Motion has passed unanimously.

1871
02:32:55,040 --> 02:33:03,000
Anything else? Councelor H.
Okay. Councelor Mitchell.

1872
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:12,160
» Thank you, Madam Morton. Just a couple
items. uh attended the graduation. Hence

1873
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:17,040
east at the end of uh June, the young
lady that got the municipal award

1874
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:22,880
also [clears throat] had the highest
average for grades 10, 11, and 12.

1875
02:33:20,479 --> 02:33:29,040
So he made a good choice.
Uh attended the July 1st parade as a

1876
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:34,960
spectator and uh had a chance to visit
with some of my neighbors who I don't

1877
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:40,479
get to see very often. Uh on the 22nd,
the mutual aid barbecue was held at

1878
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:46,240
Elmstead fire and we had uh departments
from the corridor come in have eating a

1879
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:50,880
fellowship with hot dogs, hamburgers and
some

1880
02:33:47,840 --> 02:33:55,120
some pop and water. I attended Tidefest
on Saturday and Sunday. Had a chance to

1881
02:33:52,560 --> 02:34:02,080
talk to some of the washer tossers and I
went back on Sunday to watch some of the

1882
02:33:57,920 --> 02:34:09,200
cornhole players. Uh
uh on the discussion of dust, uh as you

1883
02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:15,120
know, Elmwood Drive is next to Elm
Lumber and they have trucks coming and

1884
02:34:11,840 --> 02:34:20,240
going all day every day and they do
create dust.

1885
02:34:18,399 --> 02:34:26,160
But besides the dust, we also get some
wood f wood wood fibers.

1886
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:32,319
And if an issue comes uh up with the
dusting, I just make a call to Elmstead

1887
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:37,120
Lumber and they deal with it. And as a
resident of Elmwood Drive, I uh don't

1888
02:34:35,359 --> 02:34:41,439
call as a council, I call as the
resident.

1889
02:34:38,960 --> 02:34:46,960
And if the pictures that council tendi
was the amount of dust that his

1890
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:52,479
constituents are complaining about,
mine' be happy to have that amount of

1891
02:34:48,560 --> 02:34:59,200
dust from those trucks because that is
not the dust that we see on a dry day

1892
02:34:56,160 --> 02:35:03,680
when the log trucks are going into Elm
cell lumber. Those are my comments and

1893
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:08,399
they're
my feeling as a resident.

1894
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:12,960
Anything further?
>> And that's all.

1895
02:35:10,399 --> 02:35:17,040
» Councelor Garden Cole.
>> Thank you, Madam Warden. I just want to

1896
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:21,439
touch on a few uh things that I
attended. We had the July 1st parade

1897
02:35:18,880 --> 02:35:26,880
going from Ellensdale to Enfield. It was
uh very successful. I want to thank the

1898
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:31,439
RCMP, the local fire departments, the
volunteers who helped barricade the ends

1899
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:37,120
of the roads, and also everyone who went
to the trouble of participating. Uh it

1900
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:44,560
was very much appreciated. We had a ton
of uh spectators and it was enjoyed by

1901
02:35:40,479 --> 02:35:50,960
all. I also end my July 1st uh always
always have by going to the Shibonacity

1902
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:55,359
uh um fireworks and they were extra
extra amazing this year. So I thank

1903
02:35:52,880 --> 02:36:00,800
Shibonacity for that. I caught some
Tidefest activities and it looked to be

1904
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:04,800
very uh very successful and everybody
appeared to be having a good time. So

1905
02:36:02,479 --> 02:36:11,680
appreciate all the people who go to the
trouble to put that that on for our uh

1906
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:17,800
for our residents. Just wondering um to
staff, is there any developments in the

1907
02:36:14,399 --> 02:36:17,800
street sweeping?

1908
02:36:21,439 --> 02:36:28,560
» Go ahead, Jesse.
>> Uh

1909
02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:35,120
through Madame Warden. So uh staff have
contacted the province. They do have a

1910
02:36:31,439 --> 02:36:39,439
street sweeping along the two scheduled.
Uh did inquire and to get their

1911
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:43,920
perspective on the municipality also
doing

1912
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:48,960
rounds. Uh they're very much open to it.
Uh so we would get we would get approval

1913
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:54,319
to do something like that of of course.
No shocker there either, right? So um uh

1914
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:59,200
so
uh Park Road was done as as the business

1915
02:36:56,560 --> 02:37:03,520
park uh gets done annually usually
through uh it's like a it's part of a

1916
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:08,399
annual business
uh uh related cost for the business park

1917
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:11,280
upkeep. Uh we're looking to benchmark
those costs and then try and translate

1918
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:15,760
that to figure out what the cost would
be based on council's motion along the

1919
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:19,680
two and see where it could fit in. Um it
looks like there's been some efforts

1920
02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:27,040
along the two. Um, but I it wasn't the
municipality, the po Porticana. I I I

1921
02:37:23,439 --> 02:37:32,640
took a look uh this morning at it and
that that developer has actually had a

1922
02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:36,160
sweeper in. It's actually clear right
around, but that wasn't us. Uh are

1923
02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:40,960
looking at it. There is gaps. There's
still mounds in different locations, but

1924
02:37:38,399 --> 02:37:46,080
we've been reviewing and and it and
trying to build that scope up. So, it's

1925
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:52,560
a work in progress.
uh but very active and that's everything

1926
02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:56,560
I know on the topic as of now.
>> Okay. So, just a couple questions. You

1927
02:37:54,240 --> 02:38:00,880
say that the business park gets um
street sweeping done as a separate

1928
02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:06,080
business initiative. Who does it?
>> So, through through Madam War Morton uh

1929
02:38:03,520 --> 02:38:12,000
a contracted street sweeper uh and it's
it's always been a a EBD cost uh over

1930
02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:18,319
the years. it's not a something that's
tended to hit uh the roads cost center.

1931
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:22,399
Um
and so in the past we we've sought out

1932
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:27,520
different contractors and so there's
rental companies that do it uh and you

1933
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:33,439
just check on availability. There's one
in Burnside and also uh Elmstale

1934
02:38:31,359 --> 02:38:37,600
Landscaping has a truck and if it's got
availability or sometimes we've used

1935
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:40,080
them in the past as well. So those are
the the options we would explore. Okay.

1936
02:38:39,880 --> 02:38:45,040
[snorts]
>> So, it's it's not a flat rate. It's an

1937
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:51,120
hourly rate. And sometimes you you get
what you get. Uh we had uh the the

1938
02:38:48,479 --> 02:38:56,720
business park had to have a second run.
Uh they had some mechanical issues, but

1939
02:38:55,120 --> 02:39:03,280
» well, I guess that will be part of the
report that's brought back to us. And I

1940
02:38:59,920 --> 02:39:09,200
also me I also noticed that uh the curly
development uh cleaned a section of the

1941
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:17,280
of the street there which was quite
encouraging. Um which leads me to my

1942
02:39:12,880 --> 02:39:22,399
next topic which is no surprise dust. Um
so I sent uh pictures and videos around

1943
02:39:20,479 --> 02:39:28,240
to uh the other counselors just so that
you can get a feel for the area that I'm

1944
02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:33,280
talking about. It is extreme this uh
development that's going on in that it

1945
02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:38,560
is and now mind you the pictures that I
sent were not at a time when there's any

1946
02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:45,359
activity going on but you can from the
general uh geographic uh pictures you

1947
02:39:41,840 --> 02:39:49,200
can get a an idea of when that is loaded
with heavy equipment and trucks the

1948
02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:55,439
amount of dust that would be uh
happening on that particular site and

1949
02:39:52,880 --> 02:40:01,120
also the close proximity that the
neighbors are to it. So, I mean, we are

1950
02:39:58,800 --> 02:40:04,560
talking not swimming in their pools this
year, not hanging clothes on the line.

1951
02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:09,520
Some of them had their lines ripped
ripped down, um not not enjoying their

1952
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:15,840
backyards at all, not on their back
decks, and and I mean really impacting

1953
02:40:13,520 --> 02:40:20,000
their quality of life. On the front
side, we have, as we know, and I already

1954
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:26,560
discussed this, the trucks trucking down
Albany Drive. So after the rain last

1955
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:33,439
week on Wednesday and Thursday and for
us it was a pretty substantial rain

1956
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:40,240
Friday evening I drove up Alony Drive
for something else and was appalled at

1957
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:46,240
the you can imagine those big trucks
using Aldery Drive after all that rain

1958
02:40:42,560 --> 02:40:50,800
and the muck. huge chunks of mud on the
road just just a disaster and then had

1959
02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:56,479
driven over them. So they were huge
patties of muck everywhere and never

1960
02:40:54,720 --> 02:41:03,280
never cleaned the road when they left
their site on a Friday after after this

1961
02:40:59,600 --> 02:41:07,840
mess was left on it. I I uh commented to
a a resident who flagged me down and

1962
02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:12,000
said about the street cleaning and he
said yeah. He said they don't they don't

1963
02:41:10,399 --> 02:41:16,960
clean the street. they don't care and
nobody nobody does anything about it.

1964
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:22,640
So, and then he just just walked away.
So, my question is and I didn't realize

1965
02:41:19,200 --> 02:41:27,760
it was a bylaw officer. So, so dust
control on a construction site is a

1966
02:41:25,439 --> 02:41:30,760
bylaw. Is that correct through you to
staff?

1967
02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:37,680
» Go ahead, John.
>> Yeah. Through you, Metamor. Yes. that

1968
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:41,359
your community standards bylaw has a
section that deals with what we call

1969
02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:45,920
fugitive dust.
>> Okay. So then every development would be

1970
02:41:43,840 --> 02:41:48,000
subject to that at some level depending
on how dusty a development is.

1971
02:41:47,359 --> 02:41:54,080
» Correct.
>> Okay. So

1972
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:58,479
so does every time So does dust control
never happen? Are they never obligated

1973
02:41:56,399 --> 02:42:02,000
to take some measures of dust control
unless they are contacted with

1974
02:42:00,160 --> 02:42:04,560
complaints by a
>> by residents to a community bylaw

1975
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:07,359
officer?
>> Yeah. through you, Madam Warden. I mean,

1976
02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:11,280
we do operate on the basis of a
complaint. So, when we do get a

1977
02:42:09,439 --> 02:42:16,399
complaint, we get in touch with the
property manager and

1978
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:20,720
um some developers are quite good.
They're using sodium chloride. They're

1979
02:42:18,720 --> 02:42:25,200
occasionally using water, other
techniques, uh slowing their vehicles

1980
02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:28,800
down and so on to try and suppress dust.
Um and the bylaw doesn't say you can't

1981
02:42:27,280 --> 02:42:33,600
have any dust that escapes your
property. That would be unreasonable for

1982
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:38,640
a construction site. It basically says
um has the property owner taken you know

1983
02:42:36,160 --> 02:42:45,359
reasonable steps to prevent the release
of dust. So are they using any kind of

1984
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:49,200
dust suppression on site or um water or
what have you. Um

1985
02:42:46,640 --> 02:42:54,640
» so right so that would indicate that
they actually are responsible they if

1986
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:57,280
following the bylaw they are responsible
for maintaining some level of dust

1987
02:42:56,800 --> 02:43:00,640
control.
>> They are. Yes.

1988
02:42:58,560 --> 02:43:04,880
» Okay. So then when they don't, that's
when the bylaw officer steps in. Because

1989
02:43:02,800 --> 02:43:09,040
I had a resident send me this. Under the
East T community standards bylaw P 100,

1990
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:14,800
there are no visible dust suppression
measures, uh, routine water truck

1991
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:20,960
spraying, soil bonding agents. Uh, so
those would be the things that they

1992
02:43:17,439 --> 02:43:22,880
would be expected to do under our bylaw
B-1.

1993
02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:27,920
» Yes, those would be some of the
reasonable steps that they could take to

1994
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:35,120
to try and prevent dust from escaping.
>> Okay. So for a developer that isn't

1995
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:41,280
doing any apparent dust control. So then
that's it. It's all hinges on complaints

1996
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:47,760
and then staff
>> and then we start a discussion with the

1997
02:43:44,160 --> 02:43:51,840
property owner the or the contractor and
if that gets nowhere there are fines

1998
02:43:50,160 --> 02:43:58,479
available. I mean they they sort of ramp
up from$150 to$300 to $600 a day kind of

1999
02:43:55,120 --> 02:44:03,200
thing. But um uh we haven't used that to
this point. We've simply talked to

2000
02:44:00,319 --> 02:44:06,399
property managers and and they've taken
corrective action.

2001
02:44:04,399 --> 02:44:09,359
» Really? So you So they've taken
corrective action there.

2002
02:44:07,600 --> 02:44:14,240
» Yeah. Uh I I don't know specifically
about the Enfield site. I'm not sure.

2003
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:17,600
» Uh other than complaining about the
road, we've actually had complaints

2004
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:20,399
about fugitive dust come in.
>> Um

2005
02:44:18,800 --> 02:44:21,680
» Okay. I guess I'm just getting the
complaints.

2006
02:44:21,040 --> 02:44:24,640
» Yeah. um
>> you need to send them to

2007
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:29,200
» Yeah. encourage people to go online and
and log it in that way,

2008
02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:33,279
» right? Uh and you know what,
some people want to come to their

2009
02:44:31,200 --> 02:44:39,439
counselors with complaints and sometimes
they do that first, sometimes they do it

2010
02:44:35,279 --> 02:44:44,160
as a as a an an end measure, but it is
challenging as a counselor when a

2011
02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:48,240
resident is coming and you're hoping to
resolve their issues. I mean, we are

2012
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:53,279
elected officials. Uh second part of
that is that the road the mess of the

2013
02:44:50,479 --> 02:44:58,479
road. So I guess they are in keeping
with the dust control or lack of it.

2014
02:44:55,520 --> 02:45:01,840
Same with the with the lack of washing
the road.

2015
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:05,920
» Yeah. Slightly different that because
and again it's it's it falls under the

2016
02:45:03,920 --> 02:45:08,479
traffic authority I guess. Although in
this case it's even more complicated

2017
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:13,120
because it's a provincial role but I'll
let Jesse speak to that part.

2018
02:45:11,680 --> 02:45:18,080
» Thank you.
>> Uh through Madam Warden. So yeah, the

2019
02:45:15,600 --> 02:45:24,479
the
debris on Alderne, if you will, the

2020
02:45:20,479 --> 02:45:28,800
debris getting onto Alderne, um
the topic comes up as what is the

2021
02:45:27,040 --> 02:45:34,240
erosion and sedimentation control plan
for the development. Uh the design

2022
02:45:31,359 --> 02:45:39,840
engineer for the development uh lists
the criteria of what needs to take

2023
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:45,600
place. Um uh so from a staff
perspective, staff have followed up with

2024
02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:49,920
that design engineer saying, you know,
look at requesting for them to follow up

2025
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:56,960
with the the contractor to make sure
they're following their sedimentation

2026
02:45:51,439 --> 02:46:00,960
and erosion plan and also staff notify
the province so they're aware of the

2027
02:45:58,960 --> 02:46:06,240
condition of the provincial road. And so
the area manager was engaged and we

2028
02:46:02,960 --> 02:46:12,000
notified them as well. and we notified
the contractor of the complaint so they

2029
02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:16,880
were aware in case the province was act
requesting anything just as being

2030
02:46:14,800 --> 02:46:24,359
transparent as possible with them.
>> So if you've got a contractor, if you've

2031
02:46:19,359 --> 02:46:24,359
got a developer who is

2032
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:33,600
isn't concerned about it and you've got
the province who doesn't action it,

2033
02:46:30,960 --> 02:46:38,880
that's it.
There's there's no other tools in the

2034
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:45,600
toolbox currently.
>> Okay. Um and my last item is that a uh

2035
02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:49,680
resident on Alderney concerned about the
um the traffic, the speed and and

2036
02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:57,279
obviously now all the new issues on
Alderney um wrote to the MLA and the uh

2037
02:46:55,120 --> 02:47:02,399
um Department of Highways, the old
Department of Highways Public Works and

2038
02:46:59,920 --> 02:47:08,000
to address the situation wanted to know
about um speed mitigation like in the

2039
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:12,240
rest of the subdivision. And you I think
you were c I'm not sure if you were

2040
02:47:09,439 --> 02:47:18,560
copied on this or not. Uh I think it was
co uh Cody the MP and the MLA and the uh

2041
02:47:16,319 --> 02:47:23,600
Department of Public Works. Anyway, the
response back to her was that in order

2042
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:29,520
to for them to look at it as on a
provincial road, um there needs to be a

2043
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:34,080
request from the municipality to spark
them to do a

2044
02:47:32,399 --> 02:47:40,520
assessment
um to see if that's required. Does that

2045
02:47:36,880 --> 02:47:40,520
sound right to you

2046
02:47:41,439 --> 02:47:44,439
» Jesse?

2047
02:47:45,520 --> 02:47:49,880
» Through madam. Um

2048
02:47:50,640 --> 02:47:57,240
I'll give some additional information
then I'll answer the question.

2049
02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:57,240
» Okay. Um

2050
02:47:57,291 --> 02:48:05,359
[snorts]
so interestingly enough uh as as you

2051
02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:13,520
know it's been it's at times challenging
to to get um digital speed display signs

2052
02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:20,000
up on provincial roads. Uh a request did
come in uh for from the province if the

2053
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:23,040
municipality would engage a temporary
DSDS on Alderney. So, we're looking into

2054
02:48:22,240 --> 02:48:25,359
that
>> to help support with the current

2055
02:48:24,560 --> 02:48:27,680
challenges.
>> Okay.

2056
02:48:25,760 --> 02:48:31,520
» Um, so to get that on the list in the
schedule, I don't have any uh ETA on

2057
02:48:29,920 --> 02:48:38,479
that, but
>> that that is something we're looking to

2058
02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:43,359
accommodate to support. Um, yes. Uh, so
so any review

2059
02:48:41,359 --> 02:48:46,880
would be an official request. So, if
council wanted to make a motion for a

2060
02:48:44,880 --> 02:48:51,520
request for
um

2061
02:48:48,560 --> 02:48:56,080
um trafficcoming
options to be reviewed or an assessment

2062
02:48:53,840 --> 02:49:00,479
for the need for traffic calming on
Alderney subdivision or Alderney Drive,

2063
02:48:58,399 --> 02:49:06,000
I should say specifically where it's
provincial. That could be a motion of

2064
02:49:02,560 --> 02:49:11,439
council. Uh that that could go.
Um, anecdotally,

2065
02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:17,760
staff have had discussions with
provincial staff in the past about

2066
02:49:14,960 --> 02:49:22,880
um, ultimately an Eastand staff
perspective is on a pre-existing road

2067
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:28,000
where you're not going to realign or the
road you're you speed humps are are the

2068
02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:32,080
way you're going to go. Uh, and that's
typically something that the province

2069
02:49:29,840 --> 02:49:37,840
has not accepted or not moved forward
on. And that is kind of going to be

2070
02:49:35,279 --> 02:49:42,399
where this likely ends up in a request
for review. Uh, however, doesn't mean

2071
02:49:40,800 --> 02:49:47,840
you don't ask and don't put it out there
cuz I'm just because we've as brought it

2072
02:49:45,600 --> 02:49:52,080
up in the past doesn't mean the answer
won't change the next time we ask. So, I

2073
02:49:50,240 --> 02:49:56,640
just want to manage expectations of that
too where we've been given feedback that

2074
02:49:55,120 --> 02:50:02,080
that's not something that that would
tend to happen. Well, I just think in

2075
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:07,359
this particular section section of the
road with um the speed mitigation action

2076
02:50:06,080 --> 02:50:12,080
being taken in the rest of the
subdivision, which all feeds out into

2077
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:15,279
this road, and there's going to be way
more feeding out in this road and and

2078
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:20,319
the problems that are going to ensue
with it. And with them giving her that

2079
02:50:17,680 --> 02:50:24,399
direction that um it would come from the
municipality for a request for an assess

2080
02:50:22,319 --> 02:50:26,640
for them to do an assessment. I felt
like like

2081
02:50:26,240 --> 02:50:31,040
» you know
>> councelor you could make a motion asking

2082
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:34,160
council to send a letter to public works
and ask them to do that.

2083
02:50:32,479 --> 02:50:38,880
» Yeah. So I'm going to make a motion
asking uh

2084
02:50:36,720 --> 02:50:46,319
requesting that the municipality send a
work to send a uh a letter to public

2085
02:50:42,720 --> 02:50:53,560
works asking that they do an assessment
on Alderney Drive for

2086
02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:53,560
speed mitigation.

2087
02:50:54,160 --> 02:51:00,640
uh for
traffic calming consideration due to

2088
02:50:59,279 --> 02:51:03,640
speed concerns.
>> Right.

2089
02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:08,160
» Seconded by
>> councelor M.

2090
02:51:05,920 --> 02:51:15,920
» Councelor Musa.
>> Discussion on the motion. Councelor McI.

2091
02:51:12,640 --> 02:51:22,720
» Uh thank you Warden. I would just uh I
will support the motion, but at the 16th

2092
02:51:18,960 --> 02:51:27,359
of June road provincial roads committee,
I brought that up with the officials

2093
02:51:25,279 --> 02:51:32,960
from public works thinking specifically
of Alderly Drive, not mentioning Aldery

2094
02:51:29,680 --> 02:51:37,279
Drive and was told that they just don't
support traffic calming and won't

2095
02:51:35,359 --> 02:51:41,439
support it. Not saying we shouldn't make
the motion and send the letter, but I

2096
02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:47,520
have to agree with Jesse. is probably
going to be a no, but maybe they'll

2097
02:51:43,359 --> 02:51:51,783
change their mind. Thank you.
>> No one left to speak. We'll go to the

2098
02:51:49,200 --> 02:51:53,803
vote.
[clears throat]

2099
02:51:54,720 --> 02:52:01,600
» Motion has passed unanimously.
>> Uh, thank you council for that. I know I

2100
02:51:59,439 --> 02:52:09,680
was a little long, but just um things
going on. Thank you.

2101
02:52:04,479 --> 02:52:14,160
Okay. Coun councelor Rhino.
>> Deputy warden says it's the best for

2102
02:52:11,520 --> 02:52:18,880
last. So we're we're waiting with baited
breath.

2103
02:52:14,800 --> 02:52:25,840
» That's to be voted on. All right. On
pardon me.

2104
02:52:21,840 --> 02:52:30,560
On uh June the 26th, I attended the no
uh Legion Peacekeepers Awards and on the

2105
02:52:28,800 --> 02:52:36,479
27th
along with the warden, I attended the

2106
02:52:32,479 --> 02:52:42,240
opening of the Veterans Park. On July
1st, I attended and participated in the

2107
02:52:39,200 --> 02:52:50,160
fireworks of the Melan Fire Department.
On July the 11th, I had the uh occasion

2108
02:52:47,439 --> 02:52:53,840
to present a 90th birthday certificate
to Mr. Leonard Green who was very

2109
02:52:52,399 --> 02:53:00,080
appreciative and it was a great
gathering on Oh, I missed the June 30th

2110
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:04,560
one which was 50year anniversary to
Northfield residents uh Mickey and

2111
02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:10,960
Cheryl Mlullen. They were very
appreciative of that. On uh July from

2112
02:53:08,319 --> 02:53:16,080
July 17th to the 19th, I attended
various things at the N fun fair. And on

2113
02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:24,240
July 25th, I did the same thing for the
Walton uh fire fireman's day. So, uh, it

2114
02:53:20,560 --> 02:53:27,600
was a very busy month and, uh, I took
great pride in covering the area. Thank

2115
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:32,640
you.
>> Thank you. That concludes business from

2116
02:53:31,040 --> 02:53:37,439
counselors.
Uh, counselors, uh, I know the hour is

2117
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:44,080
getting late. We do have three in camera
items on the list. Um, so if we're going

2118
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:48,319
to continue, I would be looking for a
motion to move in Cameron to discuss a

2119
02:53:46,319 --> 02:53:51,960
land issue, a legal issue, and a
contractual issue.

2120
02:53:52,240 --> 02:54:00,960
» Okay. Moved by councelor Hib, seconded
by councelor Musa. All those in favor?

2121
02:53:58,240 --> 02:54:06,600
» Contrary, motion is carried. We will
give staff time to take us in camp.

2122
03:31:01,200 --> 03:31:08,080
Okay, welcome back everyone. I would
report that we met in camera to discuss

2123
03:31:05,600 --> 03:31:13,200
a land issue, a legal issue, and a
contractual issue. There are no motions

2124
03:31:10,880 --> 03:31:17,120
coming forward from those discussions as
staff was given direction. That

2125
03:31:15,359 --> 03:31:19,359
concludes the business on tonight's
agenda.