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I declare the meeting

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open at 6:30. What are

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the additions? We have an

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addition.

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Discussion of

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recreational

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policy issues. Uh, do

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we want to discuss

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cane control?

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Fighting reeds.

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Cane.

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Yes, it's a reed.

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Cane.

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Yes.

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This is a plant.

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Yes.

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So, we received a

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letter from someone in

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Kallus. Who wants to

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come and talk to

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us about a

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number of invasive

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species that they are

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working on, especially

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reeds.

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Cane. Yes.

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OK. So, what are we

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going to discuss?

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Should we

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invite them here?

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Oh, okay. Sounds

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good. I will write it down.

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OK.

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Is this

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Phragmites?

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Is this some kind of joke?

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Good.

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If it's not funny, then so be it

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.

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OK. Good. So,

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we have an addition.

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Review of the minutes of

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September 14.

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I missed it.

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Thank you.

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Motion to adopt

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the minutes. Uh,

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a proposal to

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amend the protocol.

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Of course. Uh

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-huh.

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I'm just starting

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the conversation.

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I just started a

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conversation. Is there

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anyone who would

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support the proposal

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?

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Okay, continue. Is

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there any more discussion?

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Yes. The proposal

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is to

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adopt the protocol with

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amendments.

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Of course.

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Here's a correction: Clarice,

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I think it's okay

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to use

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such an informal

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style when mentioning Carl

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, Joe, and Scott. However, it is

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very important

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to indicate the

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person's full name when first

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mentioned in the protocol.

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OK.

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And when it says "

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appoint Karl as

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a delegate to the annual

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meeting," and I am not

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listed as a participant, it is

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important to indicate my

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last name. So, Karl,

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I'm making sure

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my name is on the

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record.

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Yes. This applies to the

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entire protocol. Uh

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, no. You see.

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done this before. Scott

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agreed. Joe.

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No. Everyone else has a

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full name.

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Yes. Yes. Here.

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Yes. So, first, the

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full name, and then

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you can

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use

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OK. It doesn't

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matter.

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Because otherwise

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it sounds very

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informal. There

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could have been

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another Joe at the meeting.

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Yes. Yes.

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I mean,

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Joe's responsibility is

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very big. Like

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Brooks.

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I can address

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you all as "sir."

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Your style is charming.

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Oh, charming. The

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fact that you are not charming does

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not matter.

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You are not a gentleman. You're not a sir

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or anything, are you?

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Mr. Mr.

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I haven't been

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knighted yet.

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No sir, Carl. OK.

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I'm just

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asking just in case. I know

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you

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were also abroad for a while.

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Good. So, we'll

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leave it at that, except for

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the first time, where it's

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so Mr. Trevor

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Lewis—okay. And then

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we move on to

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Mr. Lewis. So,

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he is definitely an important

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person here.

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What do they say?

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Mr.

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the public,

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I always refer to

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members of the public

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and Mr., and the rest of

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us

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simply by name.

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OK. Well, that's one

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way.

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But yes, I will do as you

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say.

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No, no, that's normal.

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trying to clarify

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, or you can just

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use our

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last name

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and I don't really

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take offense.

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say "Gish

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supported it."

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I don't feel

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deprived.

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use our

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last name.

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Number 42. Gish

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seconded.

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use our

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last name. Seriously.

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Oh, yes. Gish.

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who takes the minutes

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should have some

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freedom in choosing

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the style.

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I think so too.

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Of course.

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I think the main thing is that

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the person is remembered.

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Yes. Yes. Then we

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understand what it's all about

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.

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OK. Sounds

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good. Do you have

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anything else, Carl?

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That's all.

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Carl as VLC Carl Edna,

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right? How do you like it in general

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? To be appointed in

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one's absence.

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I asked for this myself.

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I saw that letter.

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I was willing to

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let someone

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else do it

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if they wanted to.

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I saw such a chance.

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Yes. OK. Something else?

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Nothing. I ask everyone who is "in favor" to

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say "yes."

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Yes.

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The minutes of

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September 14 were approved. Uh

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, okay.

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Public comments. I don't

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want to miss it

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this time.

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You are not a representative of

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the public.

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No, no. I thought you were from the

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ring road. I won't

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give you two turns.

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Good. Just to

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get one turn.

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You will get one.

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OK. So, there is

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no audience. I don't

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see anyone. There is nothing on the board

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. I see someone.

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Who is this? Is this a

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representative of

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the public?

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RBT.

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OK. No, this is

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about

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RV maintenance. Uh

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, yes. OK. So, the

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next issue is

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a discussion of the

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culvert

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on the ring road.

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Yes.

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So, the current

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owner of this

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relevant plot.

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Um, before

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coming to the meeting

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tonight, I

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checked to see if there were any

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updates. I saw

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the note from the council. I

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saw a mention of

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Guthrie offering

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to work with me

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directly to

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try to reach an

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agreement. This is music to

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my ears. I just

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want everything to be as

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practical as possible and for

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them to be a pleasure

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to work with. I guess I'll still

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want to have

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some things in writing

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because I don't want

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to find ourselves

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in a situation again where, you know

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, everything is ambiguous, and

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someone says everything is

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fine, and someone

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we don't

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disagree on.

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OK. Yes.

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We agree.

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Good.

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But there is one thing I

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want to discuss.

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Last time you

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said you wanted us to

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fall asleep, and we

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... did. I don't agree with this either

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.

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So this was before they

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started clearing the tunnel with

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an excavator. I

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had land there.

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Oh, really?

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Yes. There's

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water there now, is

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n't there? But I

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let the city

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use

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the excavator and

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poles to

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clear the pipe,

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rather than permanently

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turn this into a

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body of water. I think

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it

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will become somewhat clear when I

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meet Guthrie,

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because the

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culvert,

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even though you don't see the

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beaver

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dam there now, isn't exactly

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letting water through either. I think

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something is stuck there.

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Yes. If we

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cleared it down to the bottom of the

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pipe,

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right?

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I'm ready for this.

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But it has to

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dry.

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There is a lot, a lot of

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everything.

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What? There's

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too much water there.

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No, I mean that

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when you clear

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the pipe, the water will come down and the

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streambed

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will be restored. It's a kind of

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bet

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between the excavator and the

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beavers. Yes. A

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huge amount

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of material was simply

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scooped up and

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pushed through the pipe.

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Ahem.

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Talking to Guthrie,

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we could find a

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way to clean it and

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keep the pipe in

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order,

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and somehow determine that

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...

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I'm not looking for

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perfection. I

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just don't want the

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entire lower edge of the

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plot to flood

347
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like it is now. Do

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you understand? Yes.

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I think

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collaborating with Guthrie at the

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initial stage

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is a good idea. I

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really think we

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need to make

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some kind of deal.

356
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Of course. And you can

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make your demands.

358
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We will work with what

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we need.

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The question in my mind is

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about falling asleep

362
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, which I don't entirely

363
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agree with, but now I

364
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understand the

365
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situation better.

366
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Yes. It's like I

367
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had land.

368
00:07:33,772 --> 00:07:34,570
Yes. Yes.

369
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Not mom.

370
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No, I understand. Yes. I

371
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understand.

372
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I used to be able to walk

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there on a small

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path about 20

375
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feet away.

376
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Yes. That was

377
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normal. Not now.

378
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OK. So, we have an

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action plan. To start,

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you'll have to

381
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work with Guthrie.

382
00:07:51,139 --> 00:07:52,604
Yes, I think we can come to some kind of

383
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agreement.

384
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I think

385
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at some point we

386
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need to figure out

387
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whether the easement is a separate

388
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document or whether it's

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integrated into the

390
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agreement for

391
00:08:06,838 --> 00:08:07,677
Well, I think it all

392
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depends on where

393
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this device ultimately ends up being

394
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. So

395
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let's see what

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they come up with and then

397
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Yes. I mean, I don't

398
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know, but

399
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if it's within the right-of-way

400
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,

401
00:08:20,848 --> 00:08:22,688
right? Yes. All I've heard

402
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so far is

403
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No, we don't need

404
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any permits.

405
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This should be away

406
00:08:26,683 --> 00:08:27,918
from the right-of-way

407
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that we need.

408
00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:30,184
Yes. But the problem is

409
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that if

410
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the device is on

411
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Trevor's land outside of that,

412
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that's a different matter.

413
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No, no. An easement is an

414
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agreement between the city and

415
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Trevor to

416
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use land

417
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outside the

418
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easement. So if this is what

419
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Guthrie showed me, maybe a

420
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small part

421
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will be out of bounds,

422
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but not much.

423
00:08:51,871 --> 00:08:54,864
I think, for example, I would

424
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like to build

425
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something

426
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big enough that it is

427
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likely to

428
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work well.

429
00:08:59,412 --> 00:08:59,858
Yes.

430
00:08:59,858 --> 00:09:01,143
And as long as I'm protected

431
00:09:01,143 --> 00:09:02,496
in terms of water drainage,

432
00:09:02,496 --> 00:09:03,849
water level maintenance,

433
00:09:03,849 --> 00:09:04,898
and no one says,

434
00:09:04,898 --> 00:09:06,116
you know, the situation of the

435
00:09:06,116 --> 00:09:07,198
last few

436
00:09:07,198 --> 00:09:08,348
years—that's something

437
00:09:08,348 --> 00:09:09,768
I'll have to live with.

438
00:09:09,768 --> 00:09:11,116
Right. Yes. I would rather

439
00:09:11,116 --> 00:09:12,395
have a 20-foot

440
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structure that I

441
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consented to than something

442
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that sticks out a foot on

443
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my lot and

444
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doesn't really work.

445
00:09:18,820 --> 00:09:20,501
Yes. Yes.

446
00:09:20,501 --> 00:09:21,537
Another thing I

447
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want to discuss: I was

448
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told three or four

449
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years ago that the

450
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culvert

451
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would be replaced before the next resurfacing.

452
00:09:30,315 --> 00:09:31,664
I want to make sure that

453
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this issue

454
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remains on the

455
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agenda, because I

456
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don't want a situation

457
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where we apply a

458
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temporary patch that

459
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becomes permanent. But these are

460
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issues you

461
00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:41,728
can discuss.

462
00:09:41,728 --> 00:09:42,904
Yes. I mean,

463
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replacing the

464
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culvert

465
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is something we all

466
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need to discuss, because it

467
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seems like it's worth

468
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doing, and I

469
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guess we

470
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should wait for the

471
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resurfacing

472
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or not.

473
00:09:52,103 --> 00:09:53,471
We are not obligated.

474
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The pipes are replaced

475
00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:55,796
daily.

476
00:09:55,796 --> 00:09:56,956
No, but the situation is that because of

477
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the volume of

478
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water that

479
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passes through there, especially in

480
00:10:00,472 --> 00:10:01,796
the spring. We need to

481
00:10:01,796 --> 00:10:02,289
replace the

482
00:10:02,289 --> 00:10:03,391
culverts

483
00:10:03,391 --> 00:10:04,332
downstream.

484
00:10:04,332 --> 00:10:05,353
Oh, and also at the

485
00:10:05,353 --> 00:10:07,273
same time. So

486
00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:08,154
, I just want to

487
00:10:08,154 --> 00:10:09,165
put this on the

488
00:10:09,165 --> 00:10:10,195
record. I

489
00:10:10,195 --> 00:10:11,483
agree to provide

490
00:10:11,483 --> 00:10:12,468
part of my

491
00:10:12,468 --> 00:10:15,442
plot. Yes. You can

492
00:10:15,442 --> 00:10:16,621
put it on the record

493
00:10:16,621 --> 00:10:17,676
that we want a better

494
00:10:17,676 --> 00:10:18,266
pipe that

495
00:10:18,266 --> 00:10:19,196
is installed at

496
00:10:19,196 --> 00:10:20,344
an angle so that the water doesn't

497
00:10:20,344 --> 00:10:21,531
fall like a waterfall.

498
00:10:21,531 --> 00:10:22,377
I think you should

499
00:10:22,377 --> 00:10:23,420
even consider

500
00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:24,323
installing

501
00:10:24,323 --> 00:10:25,607
bumpers there. This is your

502
00:10:25,607 --> 00:10:26,777
decision, not mine.

503
00:10:26,777 --> 00:10:28,030
Maybe I'll agree

504
00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:28,987
to allocate a plot for this

505
00:10:28,987 --> 00:10:30,022
. I just

506
00:10:30,022 --> 00:10:30,572
want things to be done right in the

507
00:10:30,572 --> 00:10:31,369
long

508
00:10:31,369 --> 00:10:33,432
run,

509
00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:34,313
so that it stops

510
00:10:34,313 --> 00:10:35,193
my

511
00:10:35,193 --> 00:10:35,798
property from flooding and

512
00:10:35,798 --> 00:10:36,568
improves the condition of

513
00:10:36,568 --> 00:10:39,083
the road and the area for

514
00:10:39,083 --> 00:10:40,714
it. But you don't really

515
00:10:40,714 --> 00:10:41,433
support

516
00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:43,237
beaver breeding.

517
00:10:43,237 --> 00:10:43,673
No.

518
00:10:43,673 --> 00:10:45,613
Of course. One more

519
00:10:45,613 --> 00:10:46,868
point

520
00:10:46,868 --> 00:10:47,873
I would like to

521
00:10:47,873 --> 00:10:50,608
talk about. I have a

522
00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:51,770
plot of land where there

523
00:10:51,770 --> 00:10:52,501
was a

524
00:10:52,501 --> 00:10:53,763
small pond when I bought it, and the

525
00:10:53,763 --> 00:10:55,059
beavers turned it

526
00:10:55,059 --> 00:10:59,523
into a real empire.

527
00:10:59,523 --> 00:11:00,842
I would like to discuss

528
00:11:00,842 --> 00:11:01,897
with Guthrie from the city

529
00:11:01,897 --> 00:11:03,183
council: if this beaver

530
00:11:03,183 --> 00:11:04,337
dam breaks, the

531
00:11:04,337 --> 00:11:05,458
water flow will go onto the

532
00:11:05,458 --> 00:11:08,083
county road. I would

533
00:11:08,083 --> 00:11:09,353
like to lower

534
00:11:09,353 --> 00:11:10,622
her level a little, because she has been

535
00:11:10,622 --> 00:11:13,247
there for a long time. For

536
00:11:13,247 --> 00:11:14,365
security reasons,

537
00:11:14,365 --> 00:11:15,362
you have much more

538
00:11:15,362 --> 00:11:16,208
authority to

539
00:11:16,208 --> 00:11:17,453
downgrade. That's why

540
00:11:17,453 --> 00:11:18,084
I would like to

541
00:11:18,084 --> 00:11:19,080
cooperate with the

542
00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,115
city. I don't want to

543
00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:23,452
clean up everything that's there

544
00:11:23,452 --> 00:11:24,309
, but if you

545
00:11:24,309 --> 00:11:25,542
saw it from a drone

546
00:11:25,542 --> 00:11:26,879
or walked up to the edge,

547
00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:27,873
you would understand—beaver

548
00:11:27,873 --> 00:11:29,210
dams often

549
00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:33,382
break.

550
00:11:33,382 --> 00:11:34,858
But I know it's

551
00:11:34,858 --> 00:11:36,129
So you're presenting this as a

552
00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:37,338
public

553
00:11:37,338 --> 00:11:38,440
safety issue. I've heard

554
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,521
similar arguments before,

555
00:11:39,521 --> 00:11:40,725
supposedly about national

556
00:11:40,725 --> 00:11:42,067
security.

557
00:11:42,067 --> 00:11:43,099
I don't need a

558
00:11:43,099 --> 00:11:44,995
triumph.

559
00:11:44,995 --> 00:11:46,292
Maybe you still need

560
00:11:46,292 --> 00:11:47,489
snipers on the roof?

561
00:11:47,489 --> 00:11:52,105
Yes. Good. Well, that

562
00:11:52,105 --> 00:11:53,287
sounds like a reasonable

563
00:11:53,287 --> 00:11:54,506
way to go about it.

564
00:11:54,506 --> 00:11:55,906
Paul, can I go?

565
00:11:55,906 --> 00:11:58,952
Of course.

566
00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:00,241
Both this and this are

567
00:12:00,241 --> 00:12:02,094
communication channels. Certainly.

568
00:12:02,094 --> 00:12:02,743
OK.

569
00:12:02,743 --> 00:12:03,756
Thank you all.

570
00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:05,763
Thank you.

571
00:12:05,763 --> 00:12:07,596
Um, so

572
00:12:08,713 --> 00:12:09,639
we don't need an

573
00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:10,899
agenda for the next item. We do

574
00:12:10,899 --> 00:12:11,797
n't need to.

575
00:12:11,797 --> 00:12:14,209
No, we don't have to

576
00:12:14,209 --> 00:12:15,700
talk to each other

577
00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:17,479
. Yes, it's a little early. That

578
00:12:17,479 --> 00:12:18,811
sounds good.

579
00:12:18,811 --> 00:12:19,791
Thank you all.

580
00:12:19,791 --> 00:12:20,504
Thank you.

581
00:12:20,504 --> 00:12:21,666
Good evening.

582
00:12:21,666 --> 00:12:22,998
So, the next item

583
00:12:22,998 --> 00:12:24,365
: discussing the timer

584
00:12:24,365 --> 00:12:26,318
in the city garage. Um,

585
00:12:26,318 --> 00:12:27,109
Jen did a lot of

586
00:12:27,109 --> 00:12:28,296
research to

587
00:12:28,296 --> 00:12:31,451
send

588
00:12:31,451 --> 00:12:32,781
Want to transfer to RB

589
00:12:32,781 --> 00:12:34,591
Tech while Jeffrey is here?

590
00:12:34,591 --> 00:12:36,337
And we have a

591
00:12:36,337 --> 00:12:37,666
discussion of RB Tech's Internet

592
00:12:37,666 --> 00:12:38,894
services and managed

593
00:12:38,894 --> 00:12:39,710
services.

594
00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:40,651
No, Ruben wanted to

595
00:12:40,651 --> 00:12:41,961
stay until the very

596
00:12:41,961 --> 00:12:43,366
end, right, Ruben? Well

597
00:12:43,366 --> 00:12:45,514
, we could do it

598
00:12:45,514 --> 00:12:45,956
there.

599
00:12:45,956 --> 00:12:47,123
The later, the

600
00:12:47,123 --> 00:12:47,652
better.

601
00:12:47,652 --> 00:12:48,697
It won't be a long

602
00:12:48,697 --> 00:12:49,804
meeting, but I think

603
00:12:49,804 --> 00:12:50,849
Carl has a good

604
00:12:50,849 --> 00:12:51,288
point.

605
00:12:51,288 --> 00:12:51,864
Good.

606
00:12:51,864 --> 00:12:52,692
Why not?

607
00:12:52,692 --> 00:12:53,856
Of course.

608
00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:54,751
OK. Um,

609
00:12:54,751 --> 00:12:56,378
discussing internet

610
00:12:56,378 --> 00:12:58,840
services and a possible

611
00:12:58,882 --> 00:13:00,760
RB Tech 2026 managed services contract.

612
00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:02,733
Okay.

613
00:13:02,733 --> 00:13:03,733
Do you want me to

614
00:13:03,733 --> 00:13:07,903
prepare it, or should

615
00:13:07,903 --> 00:13:10,484
I just voice it? What kind of

616
00:13:10,484 --> 00:13:11,837
contract is this? Me,

617
00:13:11,837 --> 00:13:12,793
let me

618
00:13:12,793 --> 00:13:15,130
find the contract.

619
00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:16,741
So I'll start by saying that

620
00:13:16,741 --> 00:13:19,897
I think they're

621
00:13:19,897 --> 00:13:21,428
both pretty simple.

622
00:13:21,428 --> 00:13:22,555
So, the contract for the

623
00:13:22,555 --> 00:13:23,783
city garage is

624
00:13:23,783 --> 00:13:24,944
simply a contract with

625
00:13:24,944 --> 00:13:26,105
Fidium to provide

626
00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:28,609
internet there. Um,

627
00:13:28,609 --> 00:13:31,051
exactly.

628
00:13:31,051 --> 00:13:33,081
This is because you cannot

629
00:13:33,116 --> 00:13:34,596
access your

630
00:13:34,631 --> 00:13:35,939
surveillance system via

631
00:13:35,939 --> 00:13:37,212
Starlink because you

632
00:13:37,212 --> 00:13:38,555
cannot have a static

633
00:13:38,555 --> 00:13:41,432
IP address on Starlink. They

634
00:13:41,432 --> 00:13:42,395
don't provide it,

635
00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:43,538
they won't

636
00:13:43,538 --> 00:13:44,533
do it. This is not the

637
00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:45,610
service they

638
00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:46,622
offer. We were

639
00:13:46,622 --> 00:13:47,938
hoping that NEKCV

640
00:13:47,938 --> 00:13:49,328
would build a line right

641
00:13:49,328 --> 00:13:50,456
next to the garage, but

642
00:13:50,456 --> 00:13:51,959
in the end they didn't

643
00:13:51,959 --> 00:13:55,983
. Unfortunately, NEKCV

644
00:13:55,983 --> 00:13:57,646
doesn't have coverage there,

645
00:13:57,646 --> 00:13:59,445
but fortunately,

646
00:13:59,445 --> 00:14:02,231
Fidium does. So it's still

647
00:14:02,231 --> 00:14:03,200
fiber optic

648
00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,438
internet. He is very

649
00:14:04,438 --> 00:14:05,748
fast. It is quite

650
00:14:05,748 --> 00:14:06,886
sufficient for your

651
00:14:06,886 --> 00:14:08,654
needs. So, this is the

652
00:14:08,654 --> 00:14:11,544
context of the situation.

653
00:14:11,544 --> 00:14:13,004
So this won't work

654
00:14:13,004 --> 00:14:14,542
via Starlink?

655
00:14:14,542 --> 00:14:15,519
It's currently running

656
00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:16,717
through Starlink, but you can't

657
00:14:16,717 --> 00:14:17,852
access your

658
00:14:17,852 --> 00:14:19,119
security system there.

659
00:14:19,119 --> 00:14:20,095
Therefore, you need to

660
00:14:20,095 --> 00:14:21,143
change the internet.

661
00:14:21,143 --> 00:14:22,164
Starlink has always been a

662
00:14:22,164 --> 00:14:23,151
temporary or

663
00:14:23,151 --> 00:14:25,101
backup option.

664
00:14:25,101 --> 00:14:25,960
So, we can

665
00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,912
leave it as an

666
00:14:26,912 --> 00:14:27,986
emergency channel in

667
00:14:27,986 --> 00:14:29,061
case Fidium fails, and

668
00:14:29,061 --> 00:14:30,074
then the internet

669
00:14:30,074 --> 00:14:31,568
will still be there. Which is probably

670
00:14:31,568 --> 00:14:33,088
not a bad idea.

671
00:14:33,088 --> 00:14:35,838
Yes. True.

672
00:14:35,838 --> 00:14:36,884
So, that's all about

673
00:14:36,884 --> 00:14:38,201
the internet in the city

674
00:14:38,201 --> 00:14:41,537
garage. Wait,

675
00:14:41,537 --> 00:14:42,287
before we

676
00:14:42,287 --> 00:14:43,250
continue, do you

677
00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:44,142
recommend

678
00:14:44,142 --> 00:14:45,248
connecting Fidium and

679
00:14:45,248 --> 00:14:46,676
continuing to pay

680
00:14:46,676 --> 00:14:49,912
for Starlink?

681
00:14:49,912 --> 00:14:51,408
This is solely your choice

682
00:14:51,408 --> 00:14:52,910
. I don't have a strong

683
00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:54,160
opinion on this matter

684
00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,249
. I don't think it's a

685
00:14:55,249 --> 00:14:56,419
terrible idea, but

686
00:14:56,419 --> 00:14:57,624
frankly,

687
00:14:57,624 --> 00:14:59,006
you don't have backup

688
00:14:59,006 --> 00:15:00,389
internet at the city

689
00:15:00,389 --> 00:15:02,639
office. Maybe it's worth

690
00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,408
starting with this. I

691
00:15:05,408 --> 00:15:06,262
mean...

692
00:15:06,262 --> 00:15:07,998
I thought Starlink was kind of a

693
00:15:08,026 --> 00:15:09,062
permanent solution

694
00:15:09,062 --> 00:15:10,070
until we got

695
00:15:10,070 --> 00:15:10,815
fiber.

696
00:15:10,815 --> 00:15:11,808
When we already had

697
00:15:11,808 --> 00:15:13,210
fiber optics.

698
00:15:13,210 --> 00:15:14,246
Well, we gave up

699
00:15:14,246 --> 00:15:15,465
on Starlink, but now we're

700
00:15:15,465 --> 00:15:16,715
saying you can't

701
00:15:16,746 --> 00:15:17,761
use

702
00:15:17,761 --> 00:15:19,058
Starlink for a

703
00:15:19,058 --> 00:15:19,786
security system.

704
00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:20,501
Right.

705
00:15:20,501 --> 00:15:21,872
True. So we're

706
00:15:21,872 --> 00:15:22,993
getting rid of Starlink anyway.

707
00:15:22,993 --> 00:15:23,590
You're still

708
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:24,716
getting rid of Starlink.

709
00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:25,095
Yes.

710
00:15:25,095 --> 00:15:25,878
Of course.

711
00:15:25,878 --> 00:15:27,129
Because your experience with...

712
00:15:27,129 --> 00:15:28,092
wait, you have

713
00:15:28,092 --> 00:15:29,284
fiber now?

714
00:15:29,284 --> 00:15:29,682
Yes.

715
00:15:29,682 --> 00:15:31,716
And when

716
00:15:31,716 --> 00:15:32,914
the power goes out and

717
00:15:32,914 --> 00:15:34,112
the generator turns on, the internet

718
00:15:34,112 --> 00:15:34,857
still

719
00:15:34,857 --> 00:15:35,877
works, right?

720
00:15:35,877 --> 00:15:37,075
That's right. Yes.

721
00:15:37,075 --> 00:15:38,298
This is just wonderful.

722
00:15:38,298 --> 00:15:38,682
Yes.

723
00:15:38,682 --> 00:15:40,174
We had. This is what we

724
00:15:40,174 --> 00:15:41,554
had. We have installed.

725
00:15:41,554 --> 00:15:41,944
Yes.

726
00:15:41,944 --> 00:15:44,269
This is great. Me, me.

727
00:15:44,269 --> 00:15:45,095
That's right.

728
00:15:45,095 --> 00:15:45,983
Yes.

729
00:15:45,983 --> 00:15:47,279
I have fiber optic and

730
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:48,343
it only disappears

731
00:15:48,343 --> 00:15:49,407
when the lights go out

732
00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:50,703
and the router goes off

733
00:15:50,703 --> 00:15:51,566
.

734
00:15:51,566 --> 00:15:52,910
Right. And our

735
00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:54,197
generator turns on

736
00:15:54,197 --> 00:15:55,484
, and we have no

737
00:15:55,484 --> 00:15:56,433
problems.

738
00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:57,838
Yes. Obviously, the entire

739
00:15:57,838 --> 00:15:58,510
line could

740
00:15:58,510 --> 00:15:59,316
break.

741
00:15:59,316 --> 00:16:00,349
So I think we could

742
00:16:00,349 --> 00:16:01,247
switch to Fidium and

743
00:16:01,247 --> 00:16:02,409
abandon Starlink.

744
00:16:02,409 --> 00:16:03,310
Well, we'll

745
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:04,343
switch to Fidium anyway

746
00:16:04,343 --> 00:16:04,470
.

747
00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:05,285
We must.

748
00:16:05,285 --> 00:16:06,494
Yes, it is regardless

749
00:16:06,494 --> 00:16:06,873
.

750
00:16:06,873 --> 00:16:07,546
Right.

751
00:16:07,546 --> 00:16:10,269
The question is

752
00:16:10,269 --> 00:16:12,057
good.

753
00:16:12,057 --> 00:16:13,340
And what happens if

754
00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:14,623
Fidium goes down for

755
00:16:14,623 --> 00:16:15,975
half a day or a day because

756
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,120
the line breaks,

757
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,437
since it's not

758
00:16:18,437 --> 00:16:20,484
underground, it's a

759
00:16:20,484 --> 00:16:21,744
pole-mounted thing

760
00:16:21,744 --> 00:16:22,984
. Yes, I

761
00:16:22,984 --> 00:16:23,786
mean, the work won't

762
00:16:23,786 --> 00:16:24,796
stop. They don't

763
00:16:24,796 --> 00:16:25,718
have internet for half a

764
00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:26,342
day or a day.

765
00:16:26,342 --> 00:16:27,349
Stop the trucks,

766
00:16:27,349 --> 00:16:28,379
pull over to the side of the road,

767
00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:29,511
right? I mean,

768
00:16:29,511 --> 00:16:30,450
nothing is accurate.

769
00:16:30,450 --> 00:16:31,523
Well, that's my opinion.

770
00:16:31,523 --> 00:16:32,643
Why do you keep it?

771
00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:34,184
I know. I know.

772
00:16:34,184 --> 00:16:34,720
Good.

773
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,700
It's not a bad idea

774
00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:36,679
to have Starlink. How much

775
00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:37,461
does Starlink cost us per

776
00:16:37,461 --> 00:16:38,512
month? I thought it was

777
00:16:38,512 --> 00:16:39,036
cheap.

778
00:16:39,036 --> 00:16:40,493
About 50 dollars.

779
00:16:40,493 --> 00:16:41,437
I thought so.

780
00:16:41,437 --> 00:16:42,296
We

781
00:16:42,296 --> 00:16:43,524
constantly have to pay an extra

782
00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:44,851
$50. Um, because we're

783
00:16:44,851 --> 00:16:46,042
running out of

784
00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:47,611
data.

785
00:16:47,611 --> 00:16:49,517
So 100 gigabytes is

786
00:16:49,517 --> 00:16:50,934
like 50. But then, if

787
00:16:50,934 --> 00:16:52,079
they run out,

788
00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:53,126
you have to

789
00:16:53,126 --> 00:16:53,815
pay 50 again.

790
00:16:53,815 --> 00:16:54,924
But if we don't

791
00:16:54,924 --> 00:16:55,817
use them,

792
00:16:55,817 --> 00:16:56,400
right,

793
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,030
then they don't

794
00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:57,960
run out,

795
00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,529
right?

796
00:16:58,529 --> 00:16:59,882
So that's a $50 reserve

797
00:16:59,882 --> 00:17:00,597
.

798
00:17:00,597 --> 00:17:02,994
Yes.

799
00:17:02,994 --> 00:17:04,026
Will the road

800
00:17:04,026 --> 00:17:09,220
crew be completely

801
00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:10,385
Well, the problem is

802
00:17:10,385 --> 00:17:11,000
that if we

803
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,101
implement a new

804
00:17:12,101 --> 00:17:13,331
timekeeping system,

805
00:17:13,331 --> 00:17:14,561
it will be tied

806
00:17:14,561 --> 00:17:15,660
to the internet,

807
00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:16,335
right?

808
00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:17,435
So if the internet

809
00:17:17,435 --> 00:17:18,669
goes down, the

810
00:17:18,669 --> 00:17:20,748
time will also stop.

811
00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:21,519
If the

812
00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:22,772
heating systems fail,

813
00:17:22,772 --> 00:17:23,671
repairmen

814
00:17:23,671 --> 00:17:24,571
will also be able to log in

815
00:17:24,571 --> 00:17:25,282
remotely.

816
00:17:25,282 --> 00:17:26,805
For $50, come on,

817
00:17:26,805 --> 00:17:28,124
we can do

818
00:17:28,124 --> 00:17:29,781
$50 for what?

819
00:17:29,781 --> 00:17:31,020
For a month.

820
00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:32,891
$50 per month. I

821
00:17:32,891 --> 00:17:33,876
mean, that's

822
00:17:33,876 --> 00:17:34,758
more than you

823
00:17:34,758 --> 00:17:35,946
pay for Fidium to

824
00:17:35,946 --> 00:17:36,863
have a backup in

825
00:17:36,863 --> 00:17:38,051
case something doesn't

826
00:17:38,051 --> 00:17:39,512
break.

827
00:17:39,512 --> 00:17:41,589
Yes, I don't care.

828
00:17:41,589 --> 00:17:44,800
It seems like he has.

829
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,215
I just think it's a

830
00:17:46,215 --> 00:17:48,620
waste of money. I do

831
00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:51,596
n't think so. Right. It is

832
00:17:51,596 --> 00:17:52,683
quite unlikely

833
00:17:52,683 --> 00:17:53,816
that it will turn off.

834
00:17:53,816 --> 00:17:54,810
I mean, even

835
00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:55,208
if it

836
00:17:55,208 --> 00:17:55,930
turns off,

837
00:17:55,930 --> 00:17:56,890
what's the difference.

838
00:17:56,890 --> 00:17:58,215
Yes. Big deal.

839
00:17:58,215 --> 00:17:59,510
Right. Ruben,

840
00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:01,723
say that again.

841
00:18:01,723 --> 00:18:03,121
We are inclined to

842
00:18:03,121 --> 00:18:03,910
just

843
00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,133
get rid of Starlink.

844
00:18:06,133 --> 00:18:07,520
You I don't it should

845
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,631
be

846
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:13,009
pretty reliable there.

847
00:18:13,009 --> 00:18:14,234
It is generally quite

848
00:18:14,234 --> 00:18:16,449
reliable. So,

849
00:18:16,449 --> 00:18:17,924
you know, is it worth

850
00:18:17,924 --> 00:18:20,832
$600 a year for,

851
00:18:20,832 --> 00:18:22,013
well, let's say, a few

852
00:18:22,013 --> 00:18:23,330
hours of downtime a

853
00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:25,901
year,

854
00:18:25,901 --> 00:18:29,029
right?

855
00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:30,318
You know, now that

856
00:18:30,318 --> 00:18:31,510
I've said it out loud and

857
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:32,735
on record, it'll prove me

858
00:18:32,735 --> 00:18:33,927
wrong, they'll

859
00:18:33,927 --> 00:18:34,765
shut down for a

860
00:18:34,765 --> 00:18:35,764
week, and you'll all

861
00:18:35,764 --> 00:18:40,190
be mad.

862
00:18:40,190 --> 00:18:43,180
Yes, that's great. So

863
00:18:43,180 --> 00:18:44,531
if we have Fidium, why are

864
00:18:44,531 --> 00:18:45,813
they doing a big

865
00:18:45,813 --> 00:18:49,870
fiber network?

866
00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:51,736
I don't get it everywhere.

867
00:18:51,736 --> 00:18:52,536
That's right.

868
00:18:52,536 --> 00:18:53,558
We had, we had

869
00:18:53,558 --> 00:18:54,710
copper wire from them.

870
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:55,738
We united, and they

871
00:18:55,738 --> 00:18:56,689
just, they didn't give

872
00:18:56,689 --> 00:18:57,541
us a choice. They

873
00:18:57,541 --> 00:18:58,598
said: you get

874
00:18:58,598 --> 00:18:59,523
fiber or you

875
00:18:59,523 --> 00:19:00,469
get nothing.

876
00:19:00,469 --> 00:19:01,832
Oh, Consolidated just

877
00:19:01,832 --> 00:19:02,433
left.

878
00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:04,498
No, Consolidated Fidium, Consolidated

879
00:19:04,498 --> 00:19:06,098
absorbed Fidium or

880
00:19:06,098 --> 00:19:06,973
vice versa.

881
00:19:06,973 --> 00:19:09,348
Oh, I understand. So now I have

882
00:19:09,348 --> 00:19:11,217
Comcast and Spectrum.

883
00:19:11,217 --> 00:19:12,220
I mean, it's

884
00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:13,387
just incredible.

885
00:19:13,387 --> 00:19:14,335
They

886
00:19:14,335 --> 00:19:15,859
only came to us from Consolidated.

887
00:19:15,859 --> 00:19:16,639
They came and

888
00:19:16,639 --> 00:19:17,767
said, "Oh, by the way,

889
00:19:17,767 --> 00:19:18,894
you'll have fiber

890
00:19:18,894 --> 00:19:19,733
or nothing, and it'll

891
00:19:19,733 --> 00:19:20,774
cost half as much

892
00:19:20,774 --> 00:19:21,221
."

893
00:19:21,221 --> 00:19:21,614
Yes.

894
00:19:21,614 --> 00:19:22,635
They do it little

895
00:19:22,635 --> 00:19:23,332
by little.

896
00:19:23,332 --> 00:19:24,621
In any case, that's

897
00:19:24,621 --> 00:19:25,298
not all.

898
00:19:25,298 --> 00:19:25,917
OK.

899
00:19:25,917 --> 00:19:27,097
So, what do we want to

900
00:19:27,097 --> 00:19:27,664
do here?

901
00:19:27,664 --> 00:19:28,703
Good. It just

902
00:19:28,703 --> 00:19:29,743
seems redundant

903
00:19:29,743 --> 00:19:30,383
when you have a

904
00:19:30,383 --> 00:19:31,390
central law.

905
00:19:31,390 --> 00:19:33,074
Well, but this

906
00:19:33,074 --> 00:19:34,373
I will make an offer

907
00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:35,709
to sign a contract

908
00:19:35,709 --> 00:19:39,483
with and at that time

909
00:19:39,483 --> 00:19:40,967
at the time when Fidium

910
00:19:40,967 --> 00:19:42,367
starts operating.

911
00:19:42,367 --> 00:19:44,136
Yes. Yes. Yes. I just

912
00:19:44,136 --> 00:19:45,161
want to make that

913
00:19:45,161 --> 00:19:45,994
clear. I

914
00:19:45,994 --> 00:19:46,832
support this

915
00:19:46,832 --> 00:19:47,665
proposal. Are

916
00:19:47,665 --> 00:19:48,512
there any other

917
00:19:48,512 --> 00:19:49,527
discussions?

918
00:19:49,527 --> 00:19:50,738
Who is in favor, please

919
00:19:50,738 --> 00:19:51,694
say "yes".

920
00:19:51,694 --> 00:19:52,090
Yes.

921
00:19:52,090 --> 00:19:53,075
Most

922
00:19:53,075 --> 00:19:54,296
agree. Do

923
00:19:54,296 --> 00:19:55,174
you have anything else to

924
00:19:55,174 --> 00:19:56,209
discuss in this

925
00:19:56,209 --> 00:19:57,218
room?

926
00:19:57,218 --> 00:19:59,173
OK. Um, sorry.

927
00:19:59,173 --> 00:20:00,560
Either I'm hung up, or you

928
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,909
guys are hung up for a

929
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:07,868
moment. Speaking of, the internet,

930
00:20:07,868 --> 00:20:09,710
yes,

931
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:11,301
I think it was me.

932
00:20:11,301 --> 00:20:12,346
Wait one

933
00:20:12,346 --> 00:20:13,993
second. I'll

934
00:20:13,993 --> 00:20:14,981
change my internet

935
00:20:14,981 --> 00:20:20,943
connection for a second. Sorry.

936
00:20:20,943 --> 00:20:22,942
So, that's on the note.

937
00:20:22,942 --> 00:20:24,338
Oh, okay. There is

938
00:20:24,338 --> 00:20:25,435
a lot about this.

939
00:20:25,435 --> 00:20:29,524
OK.

940
00:20:29,524 --> 00:20:31,426
Sorry about that.

941
00:20:31,426 --> 00:20:32,934
Yes, everything is fine. We

942
00:20:32,934 --> 00:20:34,163
hear you.

943
00:20:34,163 --> 00:20:35,512
OK. Uh, so the

944
00:20:35,512 --> 00:20:37,175
next part is um

945
00:20:40,863 --> 00:20:41,942
I think we

946
00:20:41,942 --> 00:20:42,752
just signed a

947
00:20:42,752 --> 00:20:43,764
contract with you

948
00:20:43,764 --> 00:20:44,742
guys, and then as we were

949
00:20:44,742 --> 00:20:46,092
reviewing it, we

950
00:20:46,092 --> 00:20:47,273
realized that you

951
00:20:47,273 --> 00:20:48,588
had a clause in the contract

952
00:20:48,588 --> 00:20:49,837
that didn't match, and

953
00:20:49,837 --> 00:20:50,883
we're usually very

954
00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:52,131
careful about

955
00:20:52,131 --> 00:20:52,974
that clause being

956
00:20:52,974 --> 00:20:54,155
approved at that

957
00:20:54,155 --> 00:20:55,167
point, the action being

958
00:20:55,167 --> 00:20:56,415
taken, and everything being very

959
00:20:56,415 --> 00:21:02,750
clear. Um, but it so

960
00:21:02,750 --> 00:21:03,951
happened that two

961
00:21:03,951 --> 00:21:04,843
years ago, or a

962
00:21:04,843 --> 00:21:06,181
year and a half ago, uh

963
00:21:06,181 --> 00:21:07,279
, Jen's predecessor

964
00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:08,583
contracted with Arbite

965
00:21:08,583 --> 00:21:09,749
to implement

966
00:21:09,749 --> 00:21:11,088
user security

967
00:21:11,088 --> 00:21:12,289
, namely

968
00:21:12,289 --> 00:21:13,524
spam filtering and

969
00:21:13,524 --> 00:21:14,862
user security training

970
00:21:14,862 --> 00:21:22,461
, uh, and, uh,

971
00:21:22,461 --> 00:21:23,987
implementing

972
00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:25,275
credential management in the

973
00:21:25,275 --> 00:21:26,156
city office, and

974
00:21:26,156 --> 00:21:27,444
there was a long pause

975
00:21:27,444 --> 00:21:28,664
before that project

976
00:21:28,664 --> 00:21:33,403
was implemented. And

977
00:21:33,403 --> 00:21:34,268
then when we

978
00:21:34,268 --> 00:21:35,465
finally did it,

979
00:21:35,465 --> 00:21:36,495
we realized, and

980
00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:37,759
there was probably a conversation

981
00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:39,089
somewhere along the way, uh, that

982
00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:39,887
you needed

983
00:21:39,887 --> 00:21:40,918
the archiving that's

984
00:21:40,918 --> 00:21:42,214
required by the

985
00:21:42,214 --> 00:21:43,378
open meetings law

986
00:21:43,378 --> 00:21:43,977
for your

987
00:21:43,977 --> 00:21:49,063
emails. Uh

988
00:21:49,063 --> 00:21:50,085
, so we just

989
00:21:50,085 --> 00:21:51,414
added archiving, and

990
00:21:51,414 --> 00:21:52,436
I guess somewhere along the way

991
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:53,765
we didn't get it all

992
00:21:53,765 --> 00:21:55,026
figured out, and you

993
00:21:55,026 --> 00:21:56,355
paid for it, but what

994
00:21:56,355 --> 00:21:57,718
you paid for and what

995
00:21:57,718 --> 00:21:59,046
you contracted for

996
00:21:59,046 --> 00:21:59,728
don't quite match up

997
00:21:59,728 --> 00:22:03,864
. So it's

998
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:04,921
just an updated

999
00:22:04,921 --> 00:22:05,747
contract to

1000
00:22:05,747 --> 00:22:07,035
reflect what you've

1001
00:22:07,035 --> 00:22:08,092
actually been doing

1002
00:22:08,092 --> 00:22:12,169
all this time. Jen, does

1003
00:22:12,169 --> 00:22:13,341
all of this fit

1004
00:22:13,341 --> 00:22:14,478
your understanding of the

1005
00:22:14,478 --> 00:22:17,613
situation? Uh

1006
00:22:17,613 --> 00:22:19,257
, yes. I don't know what this

1007
00:22:19,257 --> 00:22:20,060
line about

1008
00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:20,720
archiving

1009
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,752
emails

1010
00:22:21,752 --> 00:22:22,900
under the

1011
00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:23,932
open meetings law is that

1012
00:22:23,932 --> 00:22:25,051
you just mentioned

1013
00:22:25,051 --> 00:22:26,022
. So, "

1014
00:22:26,022 --> 00:22:27,153
user security 2," the only

1015
00:22:27,153 --> 00:22:28,344
difference between "

1016
00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:29,297
user security 1" and "

1017
00:22:29,297 --> 00:22:30,488
user security

1018
00:22:30,488 --> 00:22:31,560
2" is that

1019
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,661
we keep an archive of

1020
00:22:32,661 --> 00:22:34,865
every email

1021
00:22:34,894 --> 00:22:35,996
that goes through the

1022
00:22:35,996 --> 00:22:37,157
system so that you can

1023
00:22:37,157 --> 00:22:38,318
go back to it

1024
00:22:38,318 --> 00:22:39,479
to comply with the

1025
00:22:39,479 --> 00:22:40,670
open meetings law and

1026
00:22:40,670 --> 00:22:41,653
retrieve any

1027
00:22:41,653 --> 00:22:42,427
message

1028
00:22:42,427 --> 00:22:43,201
sent or

1029
00:22:43,201 --> 00:22:44,303
received through your

1030
00:22:44,303 --> 00:22:49,254
system. This is literally the

1031
00:22:49,254 --> 00:22:50,377
only difference between the

1032
00:22:50,377 --> 00:22:51,636
"

1033
00:22:51,636 --> 00:22:52,725
user security 1" and "

1034
00:22:52,725 --> 00:22:54,052
user security 2

1035
00:22:54,052 --> 00:22:57,089
" products. So, Ruben, are you

1036
00:22:57,089 --> 00:22:58,393
saying that you

1037
00:22:58,393 --> 00:22:59,664
took too much

1038
00:22:59,664 --> 00:23:00,367
or too little from us?

1039
00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:01,353
Uh, actually we were

1040
00:23:01,353 --> 00:23:02,626
charging you

1041
00:23:02,626 --> 00:23:03,295
for "

1042
00:23:03,295 --> 00:23:05,076
user security 2". Uh, and

1043
00:23:05,076 --> 00:23:06,498
but your contract was

1044
00:23:06,498 --> 00:23:07,284
for "

1045
00:23:07,284 --> 00:23:09,321
user security 1".

1046
00:23:09,321 --> 00:23:10,263
Good. And were

1047
00:23:10,263 --> 00:23:11,629
we

1048
00:23:11,629 --> 00:23:12,378
just getting there was a

1049
00:23:12,378 --> 00:23:13,673
discrepancy between

1050
00:23:13,673 --> 00:23:15,036
what was said in

1051
00:23:15,036 --> 00:23:16,263
your contract and

1052
00:23:16,263 --> 00:23:17,115
what, uh, we

1053
00:23:17,115 --> 00:23:20,925
actually got Jen. Is that

1054
00:23:20,925 --> 00:23:22,724
correct? Yes, we

1055
00:23:22,724 --> 00:23:23,993
noticed a difference in the

1056
00:23:23,993 --> 00:23:25,197
numbers. So I

1057
00:23:25,197 --> 00:23:26,544
asked for an updated

1058
00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:29,167
contract that was

1059
00:23:29,167 --> 00:23:29,927
correct

1060
00:23:29,927 --> 00:23:31,274
and reflected what we were being

1061
00:23:31,274 --> 00:23:32,856
charged.

1062
00:23:32,856 --> 00:23:33,444
So

1063
00:23:33,444 --> 00:23:34,428
yes, but

1064
00:23:34,428 --> 00:23:35,708
Kyle's question is, what are

1065
00:23:35,708 --> 00:23:36,793
we paying for?

1066
00:23:36,793 --> 00:23:38,105
What do we get?

1067
00:23:38,105 --> 00:23:39,225
Yes. Right.

1068
00:23:39,225 --> 00:23:40,672
Are we paying for something

1069
00:23:40,672 --> 00:23:43,239
we already paid for

1070
00:23:43,239 --> 00:23:45,111
in the contract? It seems

1071
00:23:45,111 --> 00:23:47,236
not. You pay for what you

1072
00:23:47,236 --> 00:23:48,252
get, and

1073
00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:49,200
now the contract

1074
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,486
will reflect what

1075
00:23:50,486 --> 00:23:52,767
you paid for.

1076
00:23:52,767 --> 00:23:54,271
Yes. But we didn't

1077
00:23:54,271 --> 00:23:55,934
overpay.

1078
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:57,567
No. And if that were the case,

1079
00:23:57,567 --> 00:23:58,318
we would have already

1080
00:23:58,318 --> 00:24:00,035
refunded your money.

1081
00:24:00,035 --> 00:24:00,859
So the problem

1082
00:24:00,859 --> 00:24:01,929
was that

1083
00:24:01,929 --> 00:24:02,662
the contract was

1084
00:24:02,662 --> 00:24:03,884
not drafted according to

1085
00:24:03,884 --> 00:24:05,107
our wishes, and

1086
00:24:05,107 --> 00:24:05,962
our wishes

1087
00:24:05,962 --> 00:24:07,154
are to

1088
00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:08,070
have this "

1089
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:08,865
user security 2"

1090
00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:09,995
according to your

1091
00:24:09,995 --> 00:24:11,688
discussions with Gina.

1092
00:24:11,688 --> 00:24:13,476
Right.

1093
00:24:13,476 --> 00:24:14,832
Yes. Usually, when you

1094
00:24:14,832 --> 00:24:15,790
order a new

1095
00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:16,808
product, we simply

1096
00:24:16,808 --> 00:24:17,437
correspond via

1097
00:24:17,437 --> 00:24:18,635
email, and there

1098
00:24:18,635 --> 00:24:19,712
is a clear

1099
00:24:19,712 --> 00:24:21,509
paper trail. But

1100
00:24:21,509 --> 00:24:22,608
something

1101
00:24:22,608 --> 00:24:24,519
was missing in this exchange. So it's

1102
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:25,753
just a

1103
00:24:25,784 --> 00:24:26,471
contract amendment.

1104
00:24:26,471 --> 00:24:27,158
I just want to

1105
00:24:27,158 --> 00:24:28,204
make sure I

1106
00:24:28,204 --> 00:24:29,385
understand everything. We paid

1107
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:30,249
for the service. We

1108
00:24:30,249 --> 00:24:31,040
received this

1109
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,969
service.

1110
00:24:31,969 --> 00:24:32,658
The documents just don't

1111
00:24:32,658 --> 00:24:33,361
match.

1112
00:24:33,361 --> 00:24:34,573
No. Right.

1113
00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:36,044
That's true.

1114
00:24:36,044 --> 00:24:36,697
OK.

1115
00:24:36,697 --> 00:24:38,153
The contract was for something

1116
00:24:38,153 --> 00:24:39,714
else.

1117
00:24:39,714 --> 00:24:40,976
Perfectly. Yes.

1118
00:24:40,976 --> 00:24:42,086
But, apparently, our

1119
00:24:42,086 --> 00:24:43,542
budget…My question is: is

1120
00:24:43,542 --> 00:24:44,768
our budget still

1121
00:24:44,768 --> 00:24:45,621
growing?

1122
00:24:45,621 --> 00:24:46,022
Yes.

1123
00:24:46,022 --> 00:24:46,996
That is, what we

1124
00:24:46,996 --> 00:24:48,354
spend far

1125
00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:49,978
exceeds our budget.

1126
00:24:49,978 --> 00:24:51,423
Is that correct? It

1127
00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:53,017
looks like we are

1128
00:24:53,017 --> 00:24:54,366
spending

1129
00:24:54,366 --> 00:24:55,838
$30,000 more than

1130
00:24:55,838 --> 00:24:57,492
our budget for year 24.

1131
00:24:57,492 --> 00:25:00,630
We spent 54. So we have a

1132
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,739
30,000 over budget for the 26th

1133
00:25:01,739 --> 00:25:02,049
year.

1134
00:25:02,049 --> 00:25:02,420
Yes.

1135
00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:03,735
Is that right, Jen?

1136
00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:04,620
That's right.

1137
00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:05,761
Will this

1138
00:25:05,761 --> 00:25:07,180
trend continue? It looks like

1139
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:08,222
the trend won't

1140
00:25:08,222 --> 00:25:09,785
continue because you

1141
00:25:09,785 --> 00:25:11,435
said the budget is 24

1142
00:25:11,435 --> 00:25:13,172
and we've already spent 11 in

1143
00:25:13,172 --> 00:25:14,648
27, since we're in

1144
00:25:14,648 --> 00:25:17,383
budget year 27,

1145
00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:21,388
right?

1146
00:25:21,388 --> 00:25:22,230
We're not even

1147
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:23,192
halfway through the

1148
00:25:23,192 --> 00:25:23,744
term yet.

1149
00:25:23,744 --> 00:25:24,796
True. We've already

1150
00:25:24,796 --> 00:25:26,271
spent 11 thousand,

1151
00:25:26,271 --> 00:25:27,115
even though we haven't

1152
00:25:27,115 --> 00:25:28,089
even gotten halfway there. The

1153
00:25:28,089 --> 00:25:29,952
difference is explained

1154
00:25:29,952 --> 00:25:31,099
in the notes.

1155
00:25:31,099 --> 00:25:32,696
What exactly?

1156
00:25:32,696 --> 00:25:33,989
Therefore, all deviations

1157
00:25:33,989 --> 00:25:35,316
are explained in the notes

1158
00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:36,421
to the report.

1159
00:25:36,421 --> 00:25:36,822
Yes. We

1160
00:25:36,822 --> 00:25:38,345
had a collaboration

1161
00:25:38,345 --> 00:25:40,230
with 133, our

1162
00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:42,700
website service provider. We

1163
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:43,931
had a project with them for

1164
00:25:43,931 --> 00:25:45,378
about 3 thousand,

1165
00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:46,681
and part of the IT

1166
00:25:46,681 --> 00:25:47,802
budget is also an annual

1167
00:25:47,802 --> 00:25:51,157
NEMR contract. And

1168
00:25:51,157 --> 00:25:52,369
we also had

1169
00:25:52,369 --> 00:25:57,415
security projects, uh, and it

1170
00:25:57,415 --> 00:25:58,738
seems like we're being

1171
00:25:58,738 --> 00:25:59,941
charged, uh, because

1172
00:25:59,941 --> 00:26:03,992
the contract says on

1173
00:26:03,992 --> 00:26:06,950
the last page 23966

1174
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:11,385
, but every month we

1175
00:26:11,385 --> 00:26:12,363
see bills for

1176
00:26:12,363 --> 00:26:13,585
about 3 thousand or so

1177
00:26:13,585 --> 00:26:14,632
, according to

1178
00:26:14,632 --> 00:26:19,690
estimates. So, uh, there

1179
00:26:20,728 --> 00:26:22,001
are sometimes additional

1180
00:26:22,001 --> 00:26:25,522
costs with support tickets. Uh, and we

1181
00:26:25,522 --> 00:26:26,777
had to install

1182
00:26:26,777 --> 00:26:28,064
Wi-Fi boosters

1183
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:29,022
because the door locks

1184
00:26:29,022 --> 00:26:29,781
needed

1185
00:26:29,781 --> 00:26:31,036
a booster because there were

1186
00:26:31,036 --> 00:26:34,918
problems. So, this

1187
00:26:34,918 --> 00:26:39,174
was also a project.

1188
00:26:39,174 --> 00:26:40,878
OK. So here you have a

1189
00:26:40,878 --> 00:26:42,549
monthly

1190
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:43,999
expense summary of

1191
00:26:43,999 --> 00:26:45,318
$23.96, which is

1192
00:26:45,318 --> 00:26:46,812
$2,400 per month,

1193
00:26:46,812 --> 00:26:48,306
but you say there are

1194
00:26:48,306 --> 00:26:49,142
additional

1195
00:26:49,142 --> 00:26:50,301
charges?

1196
00:26:50,301 --> 00:26:51,323
Yes. And there was also

1197
00:26:51,323 --> 00:26:52,360
equipment for the

1198
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:53,693
city garage,

1199
00:26:53,693 --> 00:26:57,124
about 5 thousand. So

1200
00:26:57,124 --> 00:26:58,267
this also affects

1201
00:26:58,267 --> 00:26:59,967
costs.

1202
00:26:59,967 --> 00:27:00,620
Yes.

1203
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:01,494
And these things were

1204
00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:03,953
approved after

1205
00:27:03,953 --> 00:27:05,661
we made the budget.

1206
00:27:05,661 --> 00:27:06,335
So,

1207
00:27:06,335 --> 00:27:07,708
on an annual basis,

1208
00:27:07,708 --> 00:27:11,020
what should we expect?

1209
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:12,739
So, it

1210
00:27:12,739 --> 00:27:14,089
looks like our

1211
00:27:14,089 --> 00:27:14,965
budget is

1212
00:27:14,965 --> 00:27:16,920
too low right now.

1213
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,569
Yes, obviously.

1214
00:27:18,569 --> 00:27:19,669
Yes, but you know, it

1215
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:20,673
could just be a

1216
00:27:20,673 --> 00:27:21,969
fluke, because the previous

1217
00:27:21,969 --> 00:27:23,264
year wasn't that

1218
00:27:23,264 --> 00:27:24,066
bad. Is

1219
00:27:24,066 --> 00:27:25,115
this just a one-time

1220
00:27:25,115 --> 00:27:26,295
surge, Ruben?

1221
00:27:26,295 --> 00:27:27,371
This year it is very

1222
00:27:27,371 --> 00:27:28,028
high.

1223
00:27:28,028 --> 00:27:29,303
Well, we spend 3

1224
00:27:29,303 --> 00:27:33,721
thousand a month. and for

1225
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:34,955
everything they need to

1226
00:27:34,955 --> 00:27:35,584
do.

1227
00:27:35,584 --> 00:27:37,026
No. Yes, that's all

1228
00:27:37,026 --> 00:27:38,355
you have.

1229
00:27:38,355 --> 00:27:39,672
This was to be expected.

1230
00:27:39,672 --> 00:27:40,787
Yes, but is this

1231
00:27:40,787 --> 00:27:41,844
just one year's worth of expenses?

1232
00:27:41,844 --> 00:27:43,025
They

1233
00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:43,762
will decrease next year.

1234
00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:44,733
So, if we

1235
00:27:44,733 --> 00:27:46,189
spend 3 thousand

1236
00:27:46,189 --> 00:27:47,322
on IT services per

1237
00:27:47,322 --> 00:27:48,779
month, that's 36,000 per

1238
00:27:48,779 --> 00:27:49,163
year.

1239
00:27:49,163 --> 00:27:51,034
Yes. Right.

1240
00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:52,266
But sometimes it turns out

1241
00:27:52,266 --> 00:27:53,173
more.

1242
00:27:53,173 --> 00:27:53,954
So we can

1243
00:27:53,954 --> 00:27:55,080
expect the same

1244
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,994
next year.

1245
00:27:55,994 --> 00:27:57,853
Yes. Yes. I'm just

1246
00:27:57,853 --> 00:27:59,276
trying to understand,

1247
00:27:59,276 --> 00:28:00,852
okay? The budget should be 36

1248
00:28:00,852 --> 00:28:01,809
thousand if we

1249
00:28:01,809 --> 00:28:02,730
stick to the

1250
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:04,166
updated contract

1251
00:28:04,166 --> 00:28:04,303
.

1252
00:28:04,303 --> 00:28:05,486
Yes. Right.

1253
00:28:05,486 --> 00:28:06,459
And there is a

1254
00:28:06,459 --> 00:28:07,357
reserve,

1255
00:28:07,357 --> 00:28:09,275
right? Good. About

1256
00:28:09,275 --> 00:28:10,475
3,000 a month,

1257
00:28:10,475 --> 00:28:10,894
right?

1258
00:28:10,894 --> 00:28:12,696
Yes. So, this year has been

1259
00:28:12,696 --> 00:28:14,012
extremely expensive.

1260
00:28:14,012 --> 00:28:15,759
64,000,

1261
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:16,374
right?

1262
00:28:16,374 --> 00:28:17,842
More than 36,000, which is

1263
00:28:17,842 --> 00:28:19,356
more in line with what

1264
00:28:19,356 --> 00:28:21,599
we...Okay.

1265
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,169
OK. Good. So, the

1266
00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,440
next question for

1267
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,040
discussion, Rube,

1268
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,038
that was it. That's

1269
00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:28,791
all. Yes, that's all

1270
00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,807
I see. Just a minute.

1271
00:28:30,807 --> 00:28:32,684
I'm not...

1272
00:28:32,684 --> 00:28:33,779
I'm just trying

1273
00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:35,030
to figure out where we are

1274
00:28:35,030 --> 00:28:35,475
.

1275
00:28:35,475 --> 00:28:37,432
Yes. No, no, no. Yes.

1276
00:28:37,432 --> 00:28:39,602
So, the proposal may be to

1277
00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:40,744
announce a tender or

1278
00:28:40,744 --> 00:28:41,515
renegotiate the

1279
00:28:41,515 --> 00:28:45,251
contract.

1280
00:28:45,251 --> 00:28:48,959
Yes.

1281
00:28:48,959 --> 00:28:52,744
I suggest that we...

1282
00:28:52,744 --> 00:28:56,228
updated technology.

1283
00:28:56,228 --> 00:28:57,419
Are there any other questions for

1284
00:28:57,419 --> 00:28:59,434
discussion? I can't hear.

1285
00:28:59,434 --> 00:29:00,670
I ask everyone who is "in favor" to

1286
00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:01,722
say "yes." I

1287
00:29:01,722 --> 00:29:03,123
received clear consent.

1288
00:29:03,123 --> 00:29:04,389
They are coming back.

1289
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:06,451
Thank you very much. Thank you.

1290
00:29:06,451 --> 00:29:07,865
guys.

1291
00:29:07,865 --> 00:29:08,982
Sorry I couldn't

1292
00:29:08,982 --> 00:29:09,912
be there in person. It's okay

1293
00:29:09,912 --> 00:29:11,251
. We

1294
00:29:11,251 --> 00:29:12,617
all...We figured it all out.

1295
00:29:12,617 --> 00:29:13,735
We figured it out.

1296
00:29:13,735 --> 00:29:14,347
OK.

1297
00:29:14,347 --> 00:29:15,432
Sounds good.

1298
00:29:15,432 --> 00:29:15,824
Yes.

1299
00:29:15,824 --> 00:29:17,011
Thank you all.

1300
00:29:17,011 --> 00:29:17,768
Good night.

1301
00:29:17,768 --> 00:29:19,235
Yes. And you too.

1302
00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,523
Good. So, now let

1303
00:29:20,523 --> 00:29:22,469
's go back to the

1304
00:29:22,502 --> 00:29:24,839
time clock. in the

1305
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:26,157
timekeeping clock. I

1306
00:29:26,157 --> 00:29:27,465
think we should

1307
00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:28,846
choose Accord, or whatever

1308
00:29:28,846 --> 00:29:31,071
it's called.

1309
00:29:31,071 --> 00:29:32,325
A thousand dollars a year

1310
00:29:32,325 --> 00:29:33,387
is the easiest

1311
00:29:33,387 --> 00:29:35,184
option, right? Everything else

1312
00:29:35,184 --> 00:29:36,591
looked expensive, but the

1313
00:29:36,591 --> 00:29:37,717
only question was: does

1314
00:29:37,717 --> 00:29:39,019
it meet our

1315
00:29:39,019 --> 00:29:40,647
needs? Is

1316
00:29:40,647 --> 00:29:41,345
that so?

1317
00:29:41,345 --> 00:29:41,791
Yes.

1318
00:29:41,791 --> 00:29:43,134
Good. You were talking

1319
00:29:43,134 --> 00:29:44,206
about...

1320
00:29:44,206 --> 00:29:46,531
Oh, yeah. Yes. So

1321
00:29:46,531 --> 00:29:47,541
he had some

1322
00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:48,649
concerns about the

1323
00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:53,243
costs. Will the

1324
00:29:53,243 --> 00:29:54,265
administrative

1325
00:29:54,265 --> 00:29:55,517
costs outweigh the savings

1326
00:29:55,517 --> 00:29:56,769
we will get from

1327
00:29:56,769 --> 00:30:02,578
time...

1328
00:30:02,578 --> 00:30:03,698
I recorded his

1329
00:30:03,698 --> 00:30:04,513
comments in

1330
00:30:04,513 --> 00:30:05,192
the notes from the

1331
00:30:05,192 --> 00:30:06,449
email,

1332
00:30:06,449 --> 00:30:07,433
if he asked

1333
00:30:07,433 --> 00:30:09,878
to choose one, then he liked Arc Oro as well as

1334
00:30:09,912 --> 00:30:11,135
Treasure, they are

1335
00:30:11,135 --> 00:30:12,425
quite similar and have

1336
00:30:12,425 --> 00:30:20,976
similar functionality.

1337
00:30:20,976 --> 00:30:22,135
But Arc Oro was very

1338
00:30:22,135 --> 00:30:22,808
easy to

1339
00:30:22,808 --> 00:30:27,874
use. NMRC

1340
00:30:27,874 --> 00:30:29,925
needs a CSV file to

1341
00:30:29,925 --> 00:30:33,622
communicate with NMIC. She

1342
00:30:33,622 --> 00:30:37,153
can do it. Hmm, so

1343
00:30:37,153 --> 00:30:38,449
how are we to understand his

1344
00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:39,812
comment that it would

1345
00:30:39,812 --> 00:30:40,767
take

1346
00:30:40,767 --> 00:30:42,096
at least an hour or two

1347
00:30:42,096 --> 00:30:43,051
every day for it

1348
00:30:43,051 --> 00:30:44,746
to pay off? Does he

1349
00:30:44,746 --> 00:30:46,232
really say that? He

1350
00:30:46,232 --> 00:30:48,189
says there are many of them.

1351
00:30:48,189 --> 00:30:49,768
This will not save money

1352
00:30:49,768 --> 00:30:50,887
.

1353
00:30:50,887 --> 00:30:52,246
Yes.

1354
00:30:52,246 --> 00:30:54,035
I know. When you look

1355
00:30:54,035 --> 00:30:55,034
at these handwritten

1356
00:30:55,034 --> 00:30:56,378
notes, it's ridiculous,

1357
00:30:56,378 --> 00:30:56,685
but

1358
00:30:56,685 --> 00:30:57,987
they're all exactly the

1359
00:30:57,987 --> 00:30:58,641
same.

1360
00:30:58,641 --> 00:30:59,021
Yes.

1361
00:30:59,021 --> 00:31:00,201
Absolutely the same.

1362
00:31:00,201 --> 00:31:01,219
I think they felt

1363
00:31:01,219 --> 00:31:01,829
my own.

1364
00:31:01,829 --> 00:31:02,685
You raised this

1365
00:31:02,685 --> 00:31:03,214
issue.

1366
00:31:03,214 --> 00:31:04,355
Well, I just said

1367
00:31:04,355 --> 00:31:05,861
yes. No, no, no.

1368
00:31:05,861 --> 00:31:07,631
It seems that Will the

1369
00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:08,850
time clock change?

1370
00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:09,886
I did it on my

1371
00:31:09,886 --> 00:31:10,906
farm. I can tell

1372
00:31:10,906 --> 00:31:11,874
you this right now.

1373
00:31:11,874 --> 00:31:12,578
And was it

1374
00:31:12,578 --> 00:31:13,287
effective?

1375
00:31:13,287 --> 00:31:13,678
Yes.

1376
00:31:13,678 --> 00:31:14,266
Good.

1377
00:31:14,266 --> 00:31:16,162
100%. It's just more

1378
00:31:16,162 --> 00:31:18,124
accurate. That's right and it

1379
00:31:18,124 --> 00:31:20,182
works.

1380
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:21,401
And how does it work when

1381
00:31:21,401 --> 00:31:22,689
road workers start

1382
00:31:22,689 --> 00:31:24,845
work from their homes?

1383
00:31:24,845 --> 00:31:26,352
This is a valid question.

1384
00:31:26,352 --> 00:31:27,269
I think you can

1385
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:28,471
log in remotely.

1386
00:31:28,471 --> 00:31:28,856
Yes.

1387
00:31:28,856 --> 00:31:29,920
So if you have a

1388
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,875
mobile phone, you

1389
00:31:30,875 --> 00:31:31,687
can install

1390
00:31:31,687 --> 00:31:32,146
the app.

1391
00:31:32,146 --> 00:31:32,618
Aha.

1392
00:31:32,618 --> 00:31:33,196
And there is also

1393
00:31:33,196 --> 00:31:34,285
geo-tracking within the

1394
00:31:34,285 --> 00:31:35,656
geo-zone. So you

1395
00:31:35,656 --> 00:31:36,910
can make the city of

1396
00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:37,875
Vont-Pelaar, they

1397
00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:39,096
can track

1398
00:31:39,096 --> 00:31:39,386
their

1399
00:31:39,386 --> 00:31:40,607
location by

1400
00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:41,572
GPS if we

1401
00:31:41,572 --> 00:31:43,140
want to. But then they

1402
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:43,984
all need

1403
00:31:43,984 --> 00:31:45,186
mobile phones with an

1404
00:31:45,186 --> 00:31:46,860
app to log in.

1405
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:48,155
Or you can set up a

1406
00:31:48,155 --> 00:31:49,186
kiosk in a city

1407
00:31:49,186 --> 00:31:49,875
garage.

1408
00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:50,982
We could do the

1409
00:31:50,982 --> 00:31:51,764
first stage—

1410
00:31:51,764 --> 00:31:52,905
set up a kiosk in a

1411
00:31:52,905 --> 00:31:54,667
city garage. In the

1412
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:55,666
second stage, we

1413
00:31:55,666 --> 00:31:56,664
could add

1414
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:57,502
functionality as

1415
00:31:57,502 --> 00:31:58,086
needed.

1416
00:31:58,086 --> 00:31:58,489
Yes.

1417
00:31:58,489 --> 00:31:59,721
Good. So, one

1418
00:31:59,721 --> 00:32:01,016
question: will these

1419
00:32:01,016 --> 00:32:02,278
hours be transferred

1420
00:32:02,278 --> 00:32:04,736
directly to

1421
00:32:04,736 --> 00:32:05,811
Yes. So the treasurer

1422
00:32:05,811 --> 00:32:06,697
will log into their

1423
00:32:06,697 --> 00:32:07,640
own application and

1424
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,726
be able to upload

1425
00:32:08,726 --> 00:32:10,020
data. Well, for me it's

1426
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,372
much more efficient

1427
00:32:11,372 --> 00:32:11,507
.

1428
00:32:11,507 --> 00:32:12,454
Undoubtedly.

1429
00:32:12,454 --> 00:32:13,259
No hassle with

1430
00:32:13,259 --> 00:32:15,655
paper records.

1431
00:32:15,655 --> 00:32:17,329
This is what we do. It's

1432
00:32:17,329 --> 00:32:18,595
like, you know, record

1433
00:32:18,595 --> 00:32:19,738
keeping now. We

1434
00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,196
do it electronically.

1435
00:32:21,196 --> 00:32:22,086
We don't need

1436
00:32:22,086 --> 00:32:23,314
to sum up the hours

1437
00:32:23,314 --> 00:32:23,959
in our heads and

1438
00:32:23,959 --> 00:32:24,758
write them down on

1439
00:32:24,758 --> 00:32:26,049
paper. I just

1440
00:32:26,049 --> 00:32:27,120
really think there

1441
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,324
needs to be a backup

1442
00:32:28,324 --> 00:32:29,395
option so they

1443
00:32:29,395 --> 00:32:33,998
can log in on the spot

1444
00:32:33,998 --> 00:32:34,141
.

1445
00:32:34,141 --> 00:32:35,264
But they don't do it

1446
00:32:35,264 --> 00:32:36,263
often because they have to

1447
00:32:36,263 --> 00:32:37,261
go to town to get a

1448
00:32:37,261 --> 00:32:38,291
truck if

1449
00:32:38,291 --> 00:32:39,599
they're going to leave.

1450
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:40,667
I understand that, but

1451
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,012
set a perimeter

1452
00:32:42,012 --> 00:32:43,356
where they can enter

1453
00:32:43,356 --> 00:32:44,345
, just like

1454
00:32:44,345 --> 00:32:45,620
that, okay, we can

1455
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:46,694
discuss how that

1456
00:32:46,694 --> 00:32:47,734
would work.

1457
00:32:47,734 --> 00:32:48,656
Most of the time this

1458
00:32:48,656 --> 00:32:49,579
will work if you

1459
00:32:49,579 --> 00:32:50,361
need to remove a

1460
00:32:50,361 --> 00:32:51,368
tree from the road or

1461
00:32:51,368 --> 00:32:52,207
something similar, which

1462
00:32:52,207 --> 00:32:53,241
happens about three times

1463
00:32:53,241 --> 00:32:53,745
a year.

1464
00:32:53,745 --> 00:32:54,678
So they take

1465
00:32:54,678 --> 00:32:55,585
the city trucks

1466
00:32:55,585 --> 00:32:56,386
home to be

1467
00:32:56,386 --> 00:32:56,973
ready to

1468
00:32:56,973 --> 00:32:57,906
clear snow at a moment's notice

1469
00:32:57,906 --> 00:32:59,846
.

1470
00:32:59,846 --> 00:33:00,855
The only one taking

1471
00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:02,066
the truck home—

1472
00:33:02,066 --> 00:33:02,301
it has to

1473
00:33:02,301 --> 00:33:07,148
be above 350.

1474
00:33:07,148 --> 00:33:08,078
No, all city

1475
00:33:08,078 --> 00:33:09,920
trucks in the city.

1476
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,355
The only truck is the

1477
00:33:11,355 --> 00:33:16,367
pickup truck he takes.

1478
00:33:16,367 --> 00:33:17,179
So there really aren't

1479
00:33:17,179 --> 00:33:18,430
many options

1480
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:19,368
for remote

1481
00:33:19,368 --> 00:33:20,737
login. This

1482
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:21,712
will happen

1483
00:33:21,712 --> 00:33:22,316
infrequently,

1484
00:33:22,316 --> 00:33:23,283
and that's probably why it only

1485
00:33:23,283 --> 00:33:24,280
happens when you

1486
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,127
have to remove a

1487
00:33:25,127 --> 00:33:26,094
tree from the road in an

1488
00:33:26,094 --> 00:33:27,212
emergency,

1489
00:33:27,212 --> 00:33:28,300
which happens three or four

1490
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:29,266
times.

1491
00:33:29,266 --> 00:33:30,624
If they agreed

1492
00:33:30,624 --> 00:33:31,203
to it.

1493
00:33:31,203 --> 00:33:32,636
I think a thousand is

1494
00:33:32,636 --> 00:33:33,923
probably the best

1495
00:33:33,923 --> 00:33:36,031
option. This is the most

1496
00:33:36,031 --> 00:33:37,525
reasonable cost.

1497
00:33:37,525 --> 00:33:38,954
If it does everything

1498
00:33:38,954 --> 00:33:40,461
you want, I think

1499
00:33:40,461 --> 00:33:42,392
it's probably...

1500
00:33:42,392 --> 00:33:43,476
And $1,000—is that

1501
00:33:43,476 --> 00:33:44,560
hardware plus

1502
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,505
maintenance?

1503
00:33:46,505 --> 00:33:47,057
Uh, does

1504
00:33:47,057 --> 00:33:48,862
that cover everything? Well

1505
00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:50,293
, implementation, uh

1506
00:33:50,293 --> 00:33:51,723
, for example, training

1507
00:33:51,723 --> 00:33:53,081
us, getting us up to

1508
00:33:53,081 --> 00:33:54,437
speed,

1509
00:33:54,437 --> 00:33:55,760
and then support.

1510
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,686
Do we own

1511
00:33:56,686 --> 00:33:57,937
the equipment, or do we...

1512
00:33:57,937 --> 00:33:58,695
So there is no

1513
00:33:58,695 --> 00:34:00,042
equipment. We

1514
00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:00,871
use

1515
00:34:00,871 --> 00:34:01,758
a tablet and simply

1516
00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:02,903
install the app

1517
00:34:02,903 --> 00:34:04,281
on it. So we

1518
00:34:04,281 --> 00:34:05,275
already have it. So,

1519
00:34:05,275 --> 00:34:05,880
OK.

1520
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,565
We might

1521
00:34:06,565 --> 00:34:07,637
have to make a

1522
00:34:07,637 --> 00:34:08,680
stand or something

1523
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,720
like that. But

1524
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:11,533
everything, everything is virtual.

1525
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:15,522
Yes.

1526
00:34:15,522 --> 00:34:16,654
OK.

1527
00:34:16,654 --> 00:34:18,065
I'd rather... So, we're

1528
00:34:18,065 --> 00:34:21,461
preparing

1529
00:34:21,461 --> 00:34:22,430
a proposal, what's the

1530
00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:23,830
name of the company

1531
00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:24,568
?

1532
00:34:24,568 --> 00:34:26,057
Taco, do we need

1533
00:34:26,057 --> 00:34:28,296
a suggestion?

1534
00:34:28,296 --> 00:34:28,700
Yes.

1535
00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:29,349
OK.

1536
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:31,205
I propose to

1537
00:34:31,205 --> 00:34:32,821
hire, engage or

1538
00:34:32,821 --> 00:34:34,528
otherwise, or

1539
00:34:34,528 --> 00:34:39,321
Yes. A rural arc.

1540
00:34:39,321 --> 00:34:42,999
Golden Arcal. OK.

1541
00:34:42,999 --> 00:34:45,708
You did it. Me, I

1542
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:47,554
support this. Is there any more

1543
00:34:47,554 --> 00:34:48,719
discussion about

1544
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,293
Joel?

1545
00:34:49,293 --> 00:34:50,124
I just want to

1546
00:34:50,124 --> 00:34:51,288
point out one thing

1547
00:34:51,288 --> 00:34:52,401
about this. That's not our

1548
00:34:52,401 --> 00:34:53,080
goal—we're not

1549
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,824
trying

1550
00:34:53,824 --> 00:34:55,079
to save money. It's

1551
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:56,220
about accountability and

1552
00:34:56,220 --> 00:34:57,882
the ease of the

1553
00:34:58,501 --> 00:35:01,659
payment process itself. So I don't want to give the

1554
00:35:01,691 --> 00:35:03,480
staff the wrong impression.

1555
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,086
True.

1556
00:35:04,086 --> 00:35:05,303
We are not saying

1557
00:35:05,303 --> 00:35:06,217
that the staff is doing

1558
00:35:06,217 --> 00:35:07,307
anything wrong. We

1559
00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:08,291
say we want to

1560
00:35:08,291 --> 00:35:09,121
do this for

1561
00:35:09,121 --> 00:35:09,859
convenience, for

1562
00:35:09,859 --> 00:35:10,848
efficiency.

1563
00:35:10,848 --> 00:35:12,399
Yes. True. True.

1564
00:35:12,399 --> 00:35:13,338
That's right. This is more

1565
00:35:13,338 --> 00:35:14,322
efficient.

1566
00:35:14,322 --> 00:35:16,560
Thank you. Yes. I agree with you

1567
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,862
. Is there a second

1568
00:35:17,862 --> 00:35:18,714
offer?

1569
00:35:18,714 --> 00:35:20,388
Yes, we have a friend. Tom

1570
00:35:20,388 --> 00:35:21,213
supports.

1571
00:35:21,213 --> 00:35:22,365
And we are discussing it

1572
00:35:22,365 --> 00:35:23,408
now.

1573
00:35:23,408 --> 00:35:24,516
All in favor,

1574
00:35:24,516 --> 00:35:25,855
please say yes.

1575
00:35:25,855 --> 00:35:27,321
"Yes" is accepted.

1576
00:35:27,321 --> 00:35:28,523
They have.

1577
00:35:28,523 --> 00:35:33,450
OK. Uh, uh,

1578
00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:35,264
next item 650, we're

1579
00:35:35,264 --> 00:35:38,137
a little behind, is the

1580
00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:39,265
appointment of David

1581
00:35:39,265 --> 00:35:39,891
Mallet to the

1582
00:35:39,891 --> 00:35:40,925
cemetery

1583
00:35:40,925 --> 00:35:43,254
committee. I move that

1584
00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:45,255
David Mallet be accepted or appointed to the

1585
00:35:45,255 --> 00:35:46,321
Cemetery

1586
00:35:46,321 --> 00:35:48,030
Committee.

1587
00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:49,587
Second. Is

1588
00:35:49,587 --> 00:35:52,934
there any more discussion?

1589
00:35:52,934 --> 00:35:54,027
In principle, if

1590
00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:55,338
a person can walk,

1591
00:35:55,338 --> 00:35:57,701
they can breathe

1592
00:35:57,701 --> 00:36:00,291
even if they are not there.

1593
00:36:00,291 --> 00:36:01,621
He is on the case. That's

1594
00:36:01,621 --> 00:36:02,392
it.

1595
00:36:02,392 --> 00:36:03,180
No more

1596
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:04,480
discussions. All those in

1597
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,350
favor, please

1598
00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:06,622
say yes.

1599
00:36:06,622 --> 00:36:09,053
Yes. Accepted. Uh

1600
00:36:09,053 --> 00:36:10,275
, let's do

1601
00:36:10,275 --> 00:36:11,842
our additional uh

1602
00:36:11,842 --> 00:36:13,220
on policy, the

1603
00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:14,102
immediate

1604
00:36:14,102 --> 00:36:15,555
policy of the council. This

1605
00:36:15,555 --> 00:36:16,824
question arose because

1606
00:36:16,824 --> 00:36:18,165
one of the members

1607
00:36:18,165 --> 00:36:20,119
resigned. Someone

1608
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:21,329
else wants to take

1609
00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:25,077
his place. They

1610
00:36:25,077 --> 00:36:26,342
decided they

1611
00:36:26,342 --> 00:36:27,606
didn't need anyone, and it looks like

1612
00:36:27,606 --> 00:36:28,903
we would have to

1613
00:36:28,903 --> 00:36:30,038
amend their

1614
00:36:30,038 --> 00:36:31,270
policy before us,

1615
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:32,535
and that would mean

1616
00:36:32,535 --> 00:36:33,799
changing the wording a little bit

1617
00:36:33,799 --> 00:36:35,064
to say they have to

1618
00:36:35,064 --> 00:36:36,231
appoint

1619
00:36:36,231 --> 00:36:39,944
someone. It

1620
00:36:39,944 --> 00:36:41,437
doesn't say that now.

1621
00:36:41,437 --> 00:36:41,844
Well, it

1622
00:36:41,844 --> 00:36:42,803
says that if

1623
00:36:42,803 --> 00:36:43,581
they're going to

1624
00:36:43,581 --> 00:36:44,489
appoint someone,

1625
00:36:44,489 --> 00:36:45,449
they have to go through the

1626
00:36:45,449 --> 00:36:46,224
whole procedure.

1627
00:36:46,224 --> 00:36:47,310
Yes, this is a slightly different

1628
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:48,167
interpretation.

1629
00:36:48,167 --> 00:36:49,436
This is a different interpretation

1630
00:36:49,436 --> 00:36:50,821
than mine, too. Yes.

1631
00:36:50,821 --> 00:36:51,828
But come on, come on,

1632
00:36:51,828 --> 00:36:52,759
let's go

1633
00:36:52,759 --> 00:36:53,560
through the history of this

1634
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,762
issue. Yes. So

1635
00:36:54,762 --> 00:36:55,770
when we created

1636
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:57,646
the recreation board,

1637
00:36:57,646 --> 00:36:59,576
we needed them to have

1638
00:36:59,608 --> 00:37:00,394
rules, and we

1639
00:37:00,394 --> 00:37:01,571
asked, can

1640
00:37:01,571 --> 00:37:02,684
you write them for

1641
00:37:02,684 --> 00:37:03,476
us?

1642
00:37:03,476 --> 00:37:03,879
Yes.

1643
00:37:03,879 --> 00:37:05,051
And they wrote us

1644
00:37:05,051 --> 00:37:06,094
some rules, we

1645
00:37:06,094 --> 00:37:07,103
reviewed them and

1646
00:37:07,103 --> 00:37:08,146
asked for

1647
00:37:08,146 --> 00:37:09,637
some changes. And when

1648
00:37:09,637 --> 00:37:10,766
they came back with

1649
00:37:10,766 --> 00:37:11,926
another project, we

1650
00:37:11,926 --> 00:37:14,360
liked it. So,

1651
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,288
these rules were

1652
00:37:15,288 --> 00:37:16,536
created as a joint

1653
00:37:16,536 --> 00:37:17,751
project of the recreation

1654
00:37:17,751 --> 00:37:19,031
board and the board of elected

1655
00:37:19,031 --> 00:37:20,752
officials. We are both

1656
00:37:20,786 --> 00:37:24,151
responsible for this. And

1657
00:37:24,151 --> 00:37:25,372
apparently we...well, clearly

1658
00:37:25,372 --> 00:37:26,428
Jim Barlow was

1659
00:37:26,428 --> 00:37:27,154
right, that we were

1660
00:37:27,154 --> 00:37:28,309
wrong, and that we

1661
00:37:28,309 --> 00:37:29,629
inserted contradictory

1662
00:37:29,629 --> 00:37:30,685
language about the

1663
00:37:30,685 --> 00:37:31,477
appointment,

1664
00:37:31,477 --> 00:37:32,961
saying that this board is

1665
00:37:32,994 --> 00:37:34,248
responsible for the

1666
00:37:34,248 --> 00:37:35,535
appointment, and somewhere else it

1667
00:37:35,535 --> 00:37:36,855
says

1668
00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:37,713
it has to be

1669
00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:39,000
approved first by the

1670
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,234
...

1671
00:37:41,234 --> 00:37:42,773
recreation board.

1672
00:37:42,773 --> 00:37:44,661
Yes. And he recommends

1673
00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:45,879
certain wording

1674
00:37:45,879 --> 00:37:46,998
that we should

1675
00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:49,924
insert there. And I would say

1676
00:37:49,924 --> 00:37:50,806
, just in the spirit of the

1677
00:37:50,806 --> 00:37:52,048
collaborative work that

1678
00:37:52,048 --> 00:37:53,289
we've done with them

1679
00:37:53,289 --> 00:37:54,302
in the past, that we

1680
00:37:54,302 --> 00:37:55,086
would send them

1681
00:37:55,086 --> 00:37:56,263
Jim

1682
00:37:56,263 --> 00:37:57,472
Barlow's wording, if we

1683
00:37:57,472 --> 00:37:58,354
like it, and

1684
00:37:58,354 --> 00:37:59,432
say: here's what we

1685
00:37:59,432 --> 00:38:00,445
want to change in

1686
00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:02,326
policy. What do you think about this

1687
00:38:02,326 --> 00:38:03,004
?

1688
00:38:03,004 --> 00:38:04,482
Of course. And then, as far as

1689
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,121
I'm concerned,

1690
00:38:06,121 --> 00:38:07,272
we're acting

1691
00:38:07,272 --> 00:38:08,494
within the existing

1692
00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:10,783
rules,

1693
00:38:10,783 --> 00:38:11,726
respecting their

1694
00:38:11,726 --> 00:38:12,839
decision not to make

1695
00:38:12,839 --> 00:38:14,120
an appointment, because

1696
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,928
they need to

1697
00:38:14,928 --> 00:38:15,790
know who they

1698
00:38:15,790 --> 00:38:16,820
can work with and,

1699
00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:17,978
more politically correct,

1700
00:38:17,978 --> 00:38:18,896
what kind of team they

1701
00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:19,649
want to have.

1702
00:38:19,649 --> 00:38:20,409
So, this was

1703
00:38:20,409 --> 00:38:21,106
about VAC,

1704
00:38:21,106 --> 00:38:21,808
right?

1705
00:38:21,808 --> 00:38:22,193
Yes.

1706
00:38:22,193 --> 00:38:23,287
Right.

1707
00:38:23,287 --> 00:38:25,186
That makes sense. So, we're

1708
00:38:25,186 --> 00:38:25,679
not.

1709
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,081
What I don't understand is

1710
00:38:27,081 --> 00:38:29,890
why they're against it. It sounded like

1711
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,070
they wanted to keep

1712
00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:32,221
the options open,

1713
00:38:32,221 --> 00:38:33,401
like they wanted to see

1714
00:38:33,401 --> 00:38:34,286
who else might be

1715
00:38:34,286 --> 00:38:35,295
interested. They

1716
00:38:35,295 --> 00:38:36,667
need more time,

1717
00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:37,938
but

1718
00:38:37,938 --> 00:38:39,083
I guess they just

1719
00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:40,228
didn't want another

1720
00:38:40,228 --> 00:38:40,679
member.

1721
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,850
Maybe that's true.

1722
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:42,784
That was what I

1723
00:38:42,784 --> 00:38:44,119
understood: they just

1724
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,187
didn't want a member.

1725
00:38:45,187 --> 00:38:46,192
Yes, that's exactly what I

1726
00:38:46,192 --> 00:38:46,903
understood.

1727
00:38:46,903 --> 00:38:48,143
So, on our council,

1728
00:38:48,143 --> 00:38:48,970
when

1729
00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:50,315
a vacancy arises, the law says

1730
00:38:50,315 --> 00:38:51,176
we must

1731
00:38:51,176 --> 00:38:52,245
fill it without

1732
00:38:52,245 --> 00:38:53,559
delay. I forgot the

1733
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:54,655
exact words.

1734
00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:56,104
Well, but they were there, we

1735
00:38:56,104 --> 00:38:57,084
created them. We did not

1736
00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:57,928
include any

1737
00:38:57,928 --> 00:38:58,930
wording stating

1738
00:38:58,930 --> 00:38:59,510
that the vacancy

1739
00:38:59,510 --> 00:39:00,380
must be

1740
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:00,981
filled.

1741
00:39:00,981 --> 00:39:02,174
No, that's right.

1742
00:39:02,174 --> 00:39:02,569
Yes. It

1743
00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:03,682
just says

1744
00:39:03,682 --> 00:39:04,456
we have to

1745
00:39:04,456 --> 00:39:05,446
approve it if

1746
00:39:05,446 --> 00:39:05,887
they...

1747
00:39:05,887 --> 00:39:07,149
That's what it says.

1748
00:39:07,149 --> 00:39:07,890
We are not obligated

1749
00:39:07,890 --> 00:39:08,725
to approve it if

1750
00:39:08,725 --> 00:39:09,544
they approve it.

1751
00:39:09,544 --> 00:39:10,233
No, but then it will

1752
00:39:10,233 --> 00:39:10,944
reach us,

1753
00:39:10,944 --> 00:39:12,383
right? We don't have to

1754
00:39:12,408 --> 00:39:13,043
approve it,

1755
00:39:13,043 --> 00:39:13,519
but

1756
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:14,418
they have to

1757
00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:15,649
approve it first.

1758
00:39:15,649 --> 00:39:16,567
Yes.

1759
00:39:16,567 --> 00:39:17,996
Right. But

1760
00:39:17,996 --> 00:39:19,995
okay. We're

1761
00:39:19,995 --> 00:39:21,344
trying to say

1762
00:39:21,344 --> 00:39:22,727
that Jim Barlow is saying that

1763
00:39:22,727 --> 00:39:23,903
the vacancy should be

1764
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:26,738
filled.

1765
00:39:26,738 --> 00:39:27,845
I saw it, but only

1766
00:39:27,845 --> 00:39:29,015
briefly.

1767
00:39:29,015 --> 00:39:30,079
Was that in the

1768
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,709
council memo or right here?

1769
00:39:31,709 --> 00:39:32,619
Oh, that's a separate

1770
00:39:32,619 --> 00:39:33,791
announcement.

1771
00:39:33,791 --> 00:39:36,039
Oh, that's right.

1772
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:44,828
Take this. Individuals

1773
00:39:44,828 --> 00:39:45,566
interested in

1774
00:39:45,566 --> 00:39:47,610
joining the Recreation Council

1775
00:39:47,638 --> 00:39:48,631
may submit a letter

1776
00:39:48,631 --> 00:39:49,653
of interest

1777
00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:50,788
to the council, stating the

1778
00:39:50,788 --> 00:39:51,612
applicant's name, city of

1779
00:39:51,612 --> 00:39:52,349
residence, and

1780
00:39:52,349 --> 00:39:54,100
desire to work. The

1781
00:39:54,129 --> 00:39:54,986
Recreation Board may

1782
00:39:54,986 --> 00:39:55,729
meet with

1783
00:39:55,729 --> 00:39:56,843
applicants and make

1784
00:39:56,843 --> 00:39:57,814
recommendations to the board

1785
00:39:57,814 --> 00:39:58,829
regarding the appointment.

1786
00:39:58,829 --> 00:39:59,313
The council has

1787
00:39:59,313 --> 00:40:00,070
the authority

1788
00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:01,099
to appoint members

1789
00:40:01,099 --> 00:40:01,856
of the

1790
00:40:01,856 --> 00:40:02,592
recreation board.

1791
00:40:02,592 --> 00:40:03,837
So, it doesn't say

1792
00:40:03,837 --> 00:40:04,888
they have to.

1793
00:40:04,888 --> 00:40:06,412
No, it doesn't say they

1794
00:40:06,412 --> 00:40:08,004
should, but they should. I

1795
00:40:08,004 --> 00:40:09,812
agree with that. So we

1796
00:40:09,812 --> 00:40:11,111
can give them this

1797
00:40:11,111 --> 00:40:12,021
wording and

1798
00:40:12,021 --> 00:40:12,897
see if

1799
00:40:12,897 --> 00:40:13,742
they want to

1800
00:40:13,742 --> 00:40:14,619
change it and

1801
00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:15,528
ask the board to

1802
00:40:15,528 --> 00:40:16,405
wait for their

1803
00:40:16,405 --> 00:40:19,398
recommendation.

1804
00:40:19,398 --> 00:40:21,245
We still have to.

1805
00:40:21,245 --> 00:40:22,592
We must always, as

1806
00:40:22,592 --> 00:40:23,663
it was written

1807
00:40:23,663 --> 00:40:25,329
before. We don't act

1808
00:40:25,329 --> 00:40:27,047
alone, do we?

1809
00:40:27,047 --> 00:40:28,851
Right.

1810
00:40:28,851 --> 00:40:29,494
OK.

1811
00:40:29,494 --> 00:40:30,756
But that's just how we've

1812
00:40:30,756 --> 00:40:32,050
limited ourselves.

1813
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:33,133
Yes. Right.

1814
00:40:33,133 --> 00:40:34,291
We offer another

1815
00:40:34,291 --> 00:40:35,519
way if you want.

1816
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:36,745
But we should still

1817
00:40:36,745 --> 00:40:37,643
wait for their

1818
00:40:37,643 --> 00:40:38,034
Yes.

1819
00:40:38,034 --> 00:40:39,099
recommendation.

1820
00:40:39,099 --> 00:40:39,493
Yes.

1821
00:40:39,493 --> 00:40:39,880
Well

1822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,915
, we would have to

1823
00:40:40,915 --> 00:40:42,321
. It says

1824
00:40:42,321 --> 00:40:43,052
the board can

1825
00:40:43,052 --> 00:40:43,878
meet with

1826
00:40:43,878 --> 00:40:44,736
interested

1827
00:40:44,736 --> 00:40:45,784
applicants and can

1828
00:40:45,784 --> 00:40:47,211
make recommendations.

1829
00:40:47,211 --> 00:40:47,612
Yes.

1830
00:40:47,612 --> 00:40:51,262
Maybe. I just

1831
00:40:51,262 --> 00:40:52,173
need clear

1832
00:40:52,173 --> 00:40:53,476
rules for everyone, and we

1833
00:40:53,476 --> 00:40:54,295
have to

1834
00:40:54,295 --> 00:40:55,460
work with them in

1835
00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:56,212
cooperation.

1836
00:40:56,212 --> 00:40:56,805
But they are not

1837
00:40:56,805 --> 00:40:57,427
obligated

1838
00:40:57,427 --> 00:40:58,417
to fill the spot

1839
00:40:58,417 --> 00:40:59,463
if there are

1840
00:40:59,463 --> 00:41:00,566
more than five left, as

1841
00:41:00,566 --> 00:41:01,386
there are between five and

1842
00:41:01,386 --> 00:41:02,250
nine members.

1843
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:02,735
Aha.

1844
00:41:02,735 --> 00:41:03,944
And at least five, as

1845
00:41:03,944 --> 00:41:05,715
they say. So if there are

1846
00:41:05,715 --> 00:41:06,938
fewer than five,

1847
00:41:06,938 --> 00:41:07,936
then they will be

1848
00:41:07,936 --> 00:41:09,191
forced to—from five to

1849
00:41:09,191 --> 00:41:09,742
nine.

1850
00:41:09,742 --> 00:41:11,631
OK.

1851
00:41:11,631 --> 00:41:13,160
I don't...So I don't think...

1852
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,106
Well, never mind.

1853
00:41:14,106 --> 00:41:15,131
We'll send this

1854
00:41:15,131 --> 00:41:16,281
text to see

1855
00:41:16,281 --> 00:41:16,817
what happens.

1856
00:41:16,817 --> 00:41:17,907
Yes.

1857
00:41:17,907 --> 00:41:20,243
Good. And also, I wanted to

1858
00:41:20,243 --> 00:41:25,048
raise a question that

1859
00:41:25,048 --> 00:41:26,349
concerns me in connection

1860
00:41:26,349 --> 00:41:27,350
with this letter from

1861
00:41:27,350 --> 00:41:32,009
Jim. I want us to

1862
00:41:32,009 --> 00:41:32,919
understand: we do not

1863
00:41:32,919 --> 00:41:34,155
make public any

1864
00:41:34,155 --> 00:41:35,423
communications between us

1865
00:41:35,423 --> 00:41:39,179
and our attorney.

1866
00:41:39,179 --> 00:41:40,477
If we do this, we will

1867
00:41:40,477 --> 00:41:41,776
lose attorney-client

1868
00:41:41,776 --> 00:41:42,816
privilege and also

1869
00:41:42,816 --> 00:41:43,952
give an advantage to

1870
00:41:43,952 --> 00:41:44,797
anyone who may be

1871
00:41:44,797 --> 00:41:45,933
on the other

1872
00:41:45,933 --> 00:41:47,102
side of the legal

1873
00:41:47,102 --> 00:41:49,181
dispute. This provides them with

1874
00:41:49,181 --> 00:41:50,376
information about

1875
00:41:50,376 --> 00:41:51,038
legal

1876
00:41:51,038 --> 00:41:52,630
advice. So

1877
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:53,875
yeah, we won't make it

1878
00:41:53,875 --> 00:41:55,572
public.

1879
00:41:55,572 --> 00:41:57,020
Of course. Yes. So

1880
00:41:57,020 --> 00:41:57,805
if you could

1881
00:41:57,805 --> 00:41:58,560
send this via

1882
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,817
email instead of

1883
00:41:59,817 --> 00:42:00,855
posting it on the

1884
00:42:00,855 --> 00:42:01,301
website.

1885
00:42:01,301 --> 00:42:01,869
Good.

1886
00:42:01,869 --> 00:42:03,884
That would be great.

1887
00:42:03,884 --> 00:42:04,533
OK.

1888
00:42:04,533 --> 00:42:05,258
Thank you.

1889
00:42:05,258 --> 00:42:06,400
So, another issue

1890
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,641
you raised is the

1891
00:42:07,641 --> 00:42:08,950
fight against reeds.

1892
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:10,466
Yes. Let me

1893
00:42:10,466 --> 00:42:11,103
open up.

1894
00:42:11,103 --> 00:42:12,157
I've never even

1895
00:42:12,157 --> 00:42:13,553
heard of that word. So,

1896
00:42:13,553 --> 00:42:16,732
Phragmites...

1897
00:42:16,732 --> 00:42:18,522
communis is the name of the

1898
00:42:18,522 --> 00:42:22,568
genus. Sorry, Phragmites

1899
00:42:22,568 --> 00:42:26,175
is the name of the genus. My

1900
00:42:26,175 --> 00:42:28,010
first

1901
00:42:28,048 --> 00:42:29,471
thesis editing job in Japan

1902
00:42:29,471 --> 00:42:30,932
when I was 16 was

1903
00:42:30,932 --> 00:42:32,555
...

1904
00:42:32,555 --> 00:42:34,511
You got your PhD

1905
00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:35,611
at 16?

1906
00:42:35,611 --> 00:42:37,019
There was a graduate student in

1907
00:42:37,019 --> 00:42:38,428
Japan who was working

1908
00:42:38,428 --> 00:42:39,555
on the vegetative

1909
00:42:39,555 --> 00:42:42,154
zonation of P. communis.

1910
00:42:42,154 --> 00:42:43,540
And she paid me to

1911
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,950
edit her

1912
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:45,739
English.

1913
00:42:45,739 --> 00:42:46,375
A.

1914
00:42:46,375 --> 00:42:47,488
And when I finished,

1915
00:42:47,488 --> 00:42:48,635
she found out I was

1916
00:42:48,635 --> 00:42:49,444
only 16.

1917
00:42:49,444 --> 00:42:50,687
A.

1918
00:42:50,687 --> 00:42:53,778
However. However. However,

1919
00:42:53,778 --> 00:42:55,044
Colleen Bloom writes: “I am

1920
00:42:55,044 --> 00:42:56,275
writing to you as a

1921
00:42:56,275 --> 00:42:57,644
member of

1922
00:42:57,644 --> 00:42:58,671
Quelos Lakes and

1923
00:42:58,671 --> 00:42:59,731
Streams, an organization that is

1924
00:42:59,731 --> 00:43:00,416
fighting

1925
00:43:00,416 --> 00:43:01,682
invasive species

1926
00:43:01,682 --> 00:43:03,016
that know no borders

1927
00:43:03,016 --> 00:43:04,214
, including reeds,

1928
00:43:04,214 --> 00:43:05,172
cattails, and

1929
00:43:05,172 --> 00:43:07,734
Japanese knotweed.

1930
00:43:07,734 --> 00:43:08,601
We recently

1931
00:43:08,601 --> 00:43:10,010
teamed up with UVM Extension

1932
00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:10,985
to combat cane

1933
00:43:10,985 --> 00:43:12,015
blight. Would

1934
00:43:12,015 --> 00:43:13,054
you like us to

1935
00:43:13,054 --> 00:43:14,062
come to one of

1936
00:43:14,062 --> 00:43:15,259
your council meetings

1937
00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:16,141
to discuss

1938
00:43:16,141 --> 00:43:17,546
collaboration?”

1939
00:43:17,546 --> 00:43:18,820
We have this problem in

1940
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:20,134
East London.

1941
00:43:20,134 --> 00:43:21,398
You can learn about

1942
00:43:21,398 --> 00:43:23,395
this from Colleen Bloom.

1943
00:43:23,395 --> 00:43:24,496
Probably yes, otherwise

1944
00:43:24,496 --> 00:43:25,534
she wouldn't want to

1945
00:43:25,534 --> 00:43:27,824
talk to us.

1946
00:43:27,824 --> 00:43:29,113
Of course.

1947
00:43:29,113 --> 00:43:30,260
I'm not thrilled about

1948
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:31,792
this. But,

1949
00:43:31,792 --> 00:43:33,011
if we have a

1950
00:43:33,011 --> 00:43:36,768
meeting,

1951
00:43:36,768 --> 00:43:37,208
yes,

1952
00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:38,535
maybe at seven, maybe at

1953
00:43:38,535 --> 00:43:39,159
ten.

1954
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,558
Good. I didn't know for sure

1955
00:43:41,558 --> 00:43:41,699
.

1956
00:43:41,699 --> 00:43:43,041
Yes. We find out what's

1957
00:43:43,041 --> 00:43:44,018
happening.

1958
00:43:44,018 --> 00:43:45,190
I don't like

1959
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:46,235
this rhetoric of war

1960
00:43:46,235 --> 00:43:48,795
on plants. Is

1961
00:43:48,795 --> 00:43:50,057
that too strict for you?

1962
00:43:50,057 --> 00:43:52,287
Yes, there are

1963
00:43:52,287 --> 00:43:54,468
already enough people in North Murio

1964
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:55,837
talking about this. So it's

1965
00:43:55,837 --> 00:43:56,752
probably worth

1966
00:43:56,752 --> 00:43:57,996
listening to what she has to

1967
00:43:57,996 --> 00:44:01,073
say. Good.

1968
00:44:01,073 --> 00:44:03,146
Well, let it be.

1969
00:44:03,146 --> 00:44:06,084
Oh, let him say.

1970
00:44:06,084 --> 00:44:07,600
Well, you know, it's an educational

1971
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,554
opportunity.

1972
00:44:08,554 --> 00:44:08,950
Yes.

1973
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:09,904
I mean, it's a

1974
00:44:09,904 --> 00:44:11,032
new word for me, but now

1975
00:44:11,032 --> 00:44:11,885
I can say it

1976
00:44:11,885 --> 00:44:13,329
for me. For me too

1977
00:44:13,329 --> 00:44:13,464
. Do

1978
00:44:13,464 --> 00:44:14,147
you know about

1979
00:44:14,147 --> 00:44:15,014
fake ladies?

1980
00:44:15,014 --> 00:44:15,991
Yes, you can say "

1981
00:44:15,991 --> 00:44:17,059
come and read". Is this the

1982
00:44:17,059 --> 00:44:17,915
generally accepted

1983
00:44:17,915 --> 00:44:18,404
reading?

1984
00:44:18,404 --> 00:44:19,356
Generally accepted.

1985
00:44:19,356 --> 00:44:20,127
Common

1986
00:44:20,127 --> 00:44:21,197
reading. Really?

1987
00:44:21,197 --> 00:44:22,093
Yes, that's a common

1988
00:44:22,093 --> 00:44:22,522
name.

1989
00:44:22,522 --> 00:44:23,131
OK. Do

1990
00:44:23,131 --> 00:44:24,004
you want

1991
00:44:24,004 --> 00:44:24,790
to contact her? Uh

1992
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:25,737
, I can.

1993
00:44:25,737 --> 00:44:27,001
Or do you want Jen

1994
00:44:27,001 --> 00:44:27,323
too? I have

1995
00:44:27,323 --> 00:44:28,726
it right here. I'll

1996
00:44:28,726 --> 00:44:29,530
just

1997
00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:30,763
tell her to contact

1998
00:44:30,763 --> 00:44:31,253
Jen.

1999
00:44:31,253 --> 00:44:32,496
Name

2000
00:44:32,496 --> 00:44:32,895
Yes.

2001
00:44:32,895 --> 00:44:34,288
Okay, it's done.

2002
00:44:34,288 --> 00:44:35,649
Now we have warrants.

2003
00:44:35,649 --> 00:44:37,621
We have an

2004
00:44:37,621 --> 00:44:39,013
administrator report.

2005
00:44:39,013 --> 00:44:40,403
So let's do

2006
00:44:40,403 --> 00:44:41,907
it, uh, simultaneously, so to

2007
00:44:41,907 --> 00:44:45,284
speak. OK.

2008
00:44:45,284 --> 00:44:46,674
So we can listen

2009
00:44:46,674 --> 00:44:47,886
, and we can also

2010
00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:51,372
see. The

2011
00:44:51,372 --> 00:44:52,473
Old

2012
00:44:52,473 --> 00:44:53,506
West Church Association

2013
00:44:53,506 --> 00:44:54,746
asked for granite

2014
00:44:54,746 --> 00:44:55,917
blocks from Sodom Pond

2015
00:44:55,917 --> 00:44:59,379
Road. Uh, so I wonder

2016
00:44:59,379 --> 00:45:02,284
if this is normal.

2017
00:45:02,284 --> 00:45:04,305
Well, there was an answer.

2018
00:45:04,305 --> 00:45:05,535
Yes, he said

2019
00:45:05,535 --> 00:45:06,830
he was fine with that.

2020
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:07,729
I thought he was

2021
00:45:07,729 --> 00:45:09,061
going to use

2022
00:45:09,061 --> 00:45:10,126
some of them, but I got it

2023
00:45:10,126 --> 00:45:11,815
. But I thought

2024
00:45:11,815 --> 00:45:13,018
he said everything was

2025
00:45:13,018 --> 00:45:13,593
okay.

2026
00:45:13,593 --> 00:45:14,773
I thought he said he would

2027
00:45:14,773 --> 00:45:15,527
find a

2028
00:45:15,527 --> 00:45:16,447
use for them.

2029
00:45:16,447 --> 00:45:17,665
Just contact

2030
00:45:17,665 --> 00:45:20,262
him. I heard the same thing.

2031
00:45:20,262 --> 00:45:21,199
OK.

2032
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,053
It doesn't matter. We agree

2033
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:23,248
with

2034
00:45:23,248 --> 00:45:24,531
Yes. Yes.

2035
00:45:24,531 --> 00:45:25,130
OK.

2036
00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:26,353
I think he will find a

2037
00:45:26,353 --> 00:45:28,211
use for them. So,

2038
00:45:28,211 --> 00:45:29,180
uh, Bill Higgus

2039
00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:30,050
was asking about the

2040
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:31,153
plank flooring at

2041
00:45:31,153 --> 00:45:32,290
Sparrow Farm and where

2042
00:45:32,290 --> 00:45:34,234
to store it.

2043
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:35,892
Oh, rotten wood.

2044
00:45:35,892 --> 00:45:36,983
Yes.

2045
00:45:36,983 --> 00:45:38,912
Oh, God.

2046
00:45:38,912 --> 00:45:40,115
OK. this rotten

2047
00:45:40,115 --> 00:45:41,305
wood. At first

2048
00:45:41,305 --> 00:45:42,357
he talked to me

2049
00:45:42,357 --> 00:45:43,320
about just

2050
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,581
stuffing it under the bottom.

2051
00:45:46,581 --> 00:45:47,711
I was just going to

2052
00:45:47,711 --> 00:45:48,326
say,

2053
00:45:48,326 --> 00:45:49,872
well, what are they doing?

2054
00:45:49,872 --> 00:45:51,186
They will have a container.

2055
00:45:51,186 --> 00:45:52,441
Just throw it in the

2056
00:45:52,441 --> 00:45:52,868
woods.

2057
00:45:52,868 --> 00:45:53,350
Yes,

2058
00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:54,204
but they will have a

2059
00:45:54,204 --> 00:45:55,255
container because he

2060
00:45:55,255 --> 00:45:56,568
wrote to me about

2061
00:45:56,568 --> 00:45:57,805
having something in the field. I

2062
00:45:57,805 --> 00:45:58,943
said, well, I'm going to

2063
00:45:58,943 --> 00:45:59,654
mow the field on

2064
00:45:59,654 --> 00:46:00,394
Monday, and I

2065
00:46:00,394 --> 00:46:01,503
mow it on Saturday

2066
00:46:01,503 --> 00:46:02,400
to finish.

2067
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,557
And then he was going to

2068
00:46:03,557 --> 00:46:04,776
leave something there, and I

2069
00:46:04,776 --> 00:46:05,995
thought it was for

2070
00:46:05,995 --> 00:46:06,915
garbage collection. Ha?

2071
00:46:06,915 --> 00:46:08,035
I'll make a suggestion

2072
00:46:08,035 --> 00:46:08,899
to put this on

2073
00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:11,162
Carl's front porch.

2074
00:46:11,162 --> 00:46:12,185
I, I'll call

2075
00:46:12,185 --> 00:46:13,345
Bill and talk to

2076
00:46:13,345 --> 00:46:14,094
him about it.

2077
00:46:14,094 --> 00:46:15,357
You don't have to.

2078
00:46:15,357 --> 00:46:15,734
Yes.

2079
00:46:15,734 --> 00:46:16,132
Because if he's

2080
00:46:16,132 --> 00:46:16,853
going to put

2081
00:46:16,853 --> 00:46:17,478
this in a container,

2082
00:46:17,478 --> 00:46:18,218
he's going to have to

2083
00:46:18,218 --> 00:46:19,219
get rid of it. And I think that's the

2084
00:46:19,219 --> 00:46:20,341
point.

2085
00:46:20,341 --> 00:46:20,847
Ugh.

2086
00:46:20,847 --> 00:46:21,670
Regarding this.

2087
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:22,039
Yes.

2088
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:22,821
But we can just

2089
00:46:22,821 --> 00:46:23,479
pile it up

2090
00:46:23,479 --> 00:46:23,765
somewhere. To pile up

2091
00:46:23,765 --> 00:46:24,704
.

2092
00:46:24,704 --> 00:46:25,907
Yes. In the forest. There are a

2093
00:46:25,907 --> 00:46:26,947
lot of forests and swamps there.

2094
00:46:26,947 --> 00:46:28,397
It can rot. So That's

2095
00:46:28,397 --> 00:46:29,042
right.

2096
00:46:29,042 --> 00:46:30,307
True. And some nails

2097
00:46:30,307 --> 00:46:30,875
can also

2098
00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:31,852
go bad. This is

2099
00:46:31,852 --> 00:46:33,274
great.

2100
00:46:33,274 --> 00:46:34,709
It's all natural.

2101
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,304
Oh, that's right. It is not

2102
00:46:36,304 --> 00:46:37,194
painted.

2103
00:46:37,194 --> 00:46:38,433
It's all natural.

2104
00:46:38,433 --> 00:46:39,720
True. Right.

2105
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,440
Good. What else do you have?

2106
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,861
OK. So, the

2107
00:46:42,861 --> 00:46:44,134
pedestrian and

2108
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:45,309
cyclist safety grant was

2109
00:46:45,309 --> 00:46:46,550
approved for 48 thousand

2110
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:46,811
with 20%

2111
00:46:46,811 --> 00:46:50,326
co-financing.

2112
00:46:50,326 --> 00:46:51,590
I just need to

2113
00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:52,756
send them a letter

2114
00:46:52,756 --> 00:46:53,664
saying we agree to a

2115
00:46:53,664 --> 00:46:54,734
deal with

2116
00:46:54,734 --> 00:47:01,161
these numbers. This

2117
00:47:01,161 --> 00:47:02,502
prompts the grantor

2118
00:47:02,502 --> 00:47:03,776
to prepare an agreement, and

2119
00:47:03,776 --> 00:47:04,548
I work to

2120
00:47:04,548 --> 00:47:05,319
arrange a

2121
00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:06,626
pre-meeting

2122
00:47:06,626 --> 00:47:07,733
if the board agrees to

2123
00:47:07,733 --> 00:47:10,846
move forward.

2124
00:47:10,846 --> 00:47:11,539
Of course.

2125
00:47:11,539 --> 00:47:11,941
Yes.

2126
00:47:11,941 --> 00:47:12,502
Good.

2127
00:47:12,502 --> 00:47:13,592
You will include Aaron

2128
00:47:13,592 --> 00:47:14,683
Clark in the preliminary

2129
00:47:14,683 --> 00:47:15,279
meeting.

2130
00:47:15,279 --> 00:47:15,666
Yes.

2131
00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:16,723
Perfectly. She will

2132
00:47:16,723 --> 00:47:20,030
like it. The

2133
00:47:20,076 --> 00:47:21,467
deadline for the EMFD RFP proposal is

2134
00:47:21,467 --> 00:47:27,740
October 6 of this year. And

2135
00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:29,210
regarding the MPG and CDBG grants

2136
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:30,449
for the

2137
00:47:30,449 --> 00:47:31,881
Orchard Valley Waldorf School Master Plan

2138
00:47:31,881 --> 00:47:34,320
and the

2139
00:47:34,358 --> 00:47:35,829
North Montier Center Master Plan Project, we

2140
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:37,377
now have a website with

2141
00:47:37,377 --> 00:47:42,114
all the information.

2142
00:47:42,114 --> 00:47:43,101
We also have a

2143
00:47:43,101 --> 00:47:45,531
survey. It is

2144
00:47:45,531 --> 00:47:46,729
intended for all

2145
00:47:46,729 --> 00:47:47,895
community members who

2146
00:47:47,895 --> 00:47:49,028
want to provide their

2147
00:47:49,028 --> 00:47:49,870
suggestions or

2148
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:51,165
determine priorities

2149
00:47:51,165 --> 00:47:53,024
for the project. The deadline for

2150
00:47:53,024 --> 00:47:54,436
submitting

2151
00:47:54,436 --> 00:47:55,613
survey responses is

2152
00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,522
October 9. That's when

2153
00:47:57,522 --> 00:47:59,507
it closes.

2154
00:47:59,507 --> 00:48:00,788
Also, I look forward to

2155
00:48:00,788 --> 00:48:01,631
any

2156
00:48:01,631 --> 00:48:02,979
questions you may have, or email

2157
00:48:02,979 --> 00:48:04,328
me if you would like to be

2158
00:48:04,328 --> 00:48:05,609
added to the list of

2159
00:48:05,609 --> 00:48:07,339
stakeholders.

2160
00:48:07,339 --> 00:48:08,269
And one more question:

2161
00:48:08,269 --> 00:48:09,256
next week

2162
00:48:09,256 --> 00:48:10,384
we have a training day for

2163
00:48:10,384 --> 00:48:11,456
city

2164
00:48:11,456 --> 00:48:12,635
administration employees. Therefore, the

2165
00:48:12,635 --> 00:48:13,482
city

2166
00:48:13,482 --> 00:48:14,752
administration office will be

2167
00:48:14,752 --> 00:48:17,283
closed on October 7. That's

2168
00:48:17,283 --> 00:48:17,733
all.

2169
00:48:17,733 --> 00:48:19,061
Good. I have a quick

2170
00:48:19,061 --> 00:48:20,248
question, Jen. I

2171
00:48:20,248 --> 00:48:21,636
saw that there were already two

2172
00:48:21,636 --> 00:48:22,831
applications. Perfectly.

2173
00:48:22,831 --> 00:48:23,229
Yes. Did

2174
00:48:23,229 --> 00:48:24,390
they come through the

2175
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:26,275
aforementioned channels, through

2176
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:29,323
emergency management or...

2177
00:48:29,323 --> 00:48:30,315
I don't think so.

2178
00:48:30,315 --> 00:48:32,168
No. Good. I'm just

2179
00:48:32,168 --> 00:48:37,188
curious.

2180
00:48:37,188 --> 00:48:38,291
I have a question from the

2181
00:48:38,291 --> 00:48:39,532
last

2182
00:48:39,532 --> 00:48:40,912
council meeting, regarding North

2183
00:48:40,912 --> 00:48:42,257
Montier, there was a

2184
00:48:42,257 --> 00:48:45,934
SD group launch there......

2185
00:48:45,934 --> 00:48:47,226
that took place last

2186
00:48:47,226 --> 00:48:48,386
week at a private

2187
00:48:48,386 --> 00:48:53,883
home. I'm curious about

2188
00:48:53,883 --> 00:48:54,878
what we think about

2189
00:48:54,878 --> 00:48:55,531
holding

2190
00:48:55,531 --> 00:48:56,712
public events

2191
00:48:56,712 --> 00:48:57,956
in private homes,

2192
00:48:57,956 --> 00:48:59,106
because I'm used to the idea that

2193
00:48:59,106 --> 00:49:00,163
public events

2194
00:49:00,163 --> 00:49:01,189
should be held in

2195
00:49:01,189 --> 00:49:02,371
public places where

2196
00:49:02,371 --> 00:49:03,459
people don't feel

2197
00:49:03,459 --> 00:49:04,516
uncomfortable because of a

2198
00:49:04,516 --> 00:49:05,667
personal relationship with

2199
00:49:05,667 --> 00:49:06,879
the owner of the space

2200
00:49:06,879 --> 00:49:11,618
. True.

2201
00:49:11,618 --> 00:49:12,501
On the other hand,

2202
00:49:12,501 --> 00:49:13,690
it's nice to have a

2203
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:15,015
meeting place right where

2204
00:49:15,015 --> 00:49:16,340
the project is being implemented,

2205
00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:17,529
and there's no public space

2206
00:49:17,529 --> 00:49:19,072
there.

2207
00:49:19,072 --> 00:49:20,608
Yes. Well, all of this is, in

2208
00:49:20,608 --> 00:49:23,186
fact, not exactly an

2209
00:49:23,186 --> 00:49:25,242
official matter. I

2210
00:49:25,242 --> 00:49:26,658
mean, it's all

2211
00:49:26,658 --> 00:49:31,560
directed by Selena, Selena,

2212
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,245
That's the thing. So

2213
00:49:34,245 --> 00:49:35,039
it's not exactly an

2214
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:37,379
official event,

2215
00:49:37,379 --> 00:49:38,237
but that's why it was

2216
00:49:38,237 --> 00:49:39,326
held in that

2217
00:49:39,326 --> 00:49:41,415
house.

2218
00:49:41,415 --> 00:49:42,793
I think it would be better

2219
00:49:42,793 --> 00:49:43,712
if it was in a

2220
00:49:43,712 --> 00:49:45,743
public place.

2221
00:49:45,743 --> 00:49:49,611
That would be more appropriate.

2222
00:49:49,611 --> 00:49:50,516
At school,

2223
00:49:50,516 --> 00:49:51,874
right? But it was

2224
00:49:51,874 --> 00:49:53,193
nice to spend it in the

2225
00:49:53,193 --> 00:49:54,765
community.

2226
00:49:54,765 --> 00:49:55,882
I think that's why

2227
00:49:55,882 --> 00:49:57,123
the supplier advised

2228
00:49:57,123 --> 00:49:58,117
us to hold it in the

2229
00:49:58,117 --> 00:49:59,265
North Maylor community

2230
00:49:59,265 --> 00:50:00,478
nearby...

2231
00:50:00,478 --> 00:50:01,778
Who advised us?

2232
00:50:01,778 --> 00:50:02,768
Provider.

2233
00:50:02,768 --> 00:50:04,075
Of course.

2234
00:50:04,075 --> 00:50:04,863
I suggested

2235
00:50:04,863 --> 00:50:05,936
holding an open

2236
00:50:05,936 --> 00:50:07,198
meeting, an open

2237
00:50:07,198 --> 00:50:08,176
house, where it

2238
00:50:08,176 --> 00:50:10,419
happens,

2239
00:50:10,419 --> 00:50:11,814
in a private home,

2240
00:50:11,814 --> 00:50:12,526
right?

2241
00:50:12,526 --> 00:50:13,995
That's where it came from

2242
00:50:13,995 --> 00:50:15,089
.

2243
00:50:15,089 --> 00:50:17,656
I think in the future,

2244
00:50:17,689 --> 00:50:18,889
more distance could be created, and

2245
00:50:18,889 --> 00:50:20,223
at the same time, I will say that there are

2246
00:50:20,223 --> 00:50:24,748
others... So, we have a

2247
00:50:24,748 --> 00:50:25,955
complex problem,

2248
00:50:25,955 --> 00:50:27,038
but yes,

2249
00:50:27,038 --> 00:50:28,152
more could be done to

2250
00:50:28,152 --> 00:50:30,068
maintain some

2251
00:50:30,068 --> 00:50:31,737
distance. Yes. But I'm

2252
00:50:31,737 --> 00:50:32,384
not

2253
00:50:32,384 --> 00:50:33,058
busy enough to

2254
00:50:33,058 --> 00:50:34,028
talk to people and

2255
00:50:34,028 --> 00:50:34,748
try...

2256
00:50:34,748 --> 00:50:35,774
So what about this old

2257
00:50:35,774 --> 00:50:36,995
dance hall? Has

2258
00:50:36,995 --> 00:50:37,627
it now

2259
00:50:37,627 --> 00:50:38,450
been converted into

2260
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:39,088
apartments?

2261
00:50:39,088 --> 00:50:39,909
It is completely

2262
00:50:39,909 --> 00:50:42,694
empty. He, uh...

2263
00:50:42,694 --> 00:50:44,155
why did I forget the name? It

2264
00:50:44,155 --> 00:50:45,873
still belongs to...

2265
00:50:45,873 --> 00:50:48,398
we know who. Yes. And

2266
00:50:48,398 --> 00:50:49,031
he...

2267
00:50:49,031 --> 00:50:49,862
there's still an

2268
00:50:49,862 --> 00:50:50,894
old water

2269
00:50:50,894 --> 00:50:51,840
boiler right in front of the

2270
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,068
entrance. I live right

2271
00:50:53,068 --> 00:50:54,088
across from him.

2272
00:50:54,088 --> 00:50:55,231
Yes, I know.

2273
00:50:55,231 --> 00:50:56,790
Yes. I went there to

2274
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:58,888
dance about 50 years ago. They

2275
00:50:58,888 --> 00:50:59,561
used to

2276
00:50:59,561 --> 00:51:00,873
hold dances there.

2277
00:51:00,873 --> 00:51:02,014
Actually, even

2278
00:51:02,014 --> 00:51:02,633
later.

2279
00:51:02,633 --> 00:51:03,972
In fact, it was still

2280
00:51:03,972 --> 00:51:04,178
...

2281
00:51:04,178 --> 00:51:05,693
30 years ago.

2282
00:51:05,693 --> 00:51:07,001
Yes, there were

2283
00:51:07,001 --> 00:51:08,940
dances there.

2284
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:10,063
Yes, but it's

2285
00:51:10,063 --> 00:51:11,280
privately owned now,

2286
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,466
so it's not a public

2287
00:51:12,466 --> 00:51:15,608
place, right? Yes. I was

2288
00:51:15,608 --> 00:51:16,520
just trying to

2289
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,660
come up with a public

2290
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:18,507
place there. There's

2291
00:51:18,507 --> 00:51:19,572
really

2292
00:51:19,572 --> 00:51:20,039
nothing there.

2293
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:21,167
None.

2294
00:51:21,167 --> 00:51:24,732
Yes. OK. Well,

2295
00:51:24,732 --> 00:51:27,175
we have what we have.

2296
00:51:27,175 --> 00:51:28,254
Would you like to make

2297
00:51:28,254 --> 00:51:30,829
a suggestion?

2298
00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:32,270
Um, is there anything else we can

2299
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:33,887
discuss? Mr.

2300
00:51:33,887 --> 00:51:37,358
G. is in a hurry.

2301
00:51:37,358 --> 00:51:38,173
I suggest...

2302
00:51:38,173 --> 00:51:39,633
What are you doing with your hand?

2303
00:51:39,633 --> 00:51:42,626
I propose...

2304
00:51:42,626 --> 00:51:43,746
to close the

2305
00:51:43,746 --> 00:51:45,329
meeting.

2306
00:51:45,329 --> 00:51:46,280
I think so.

2307
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:46,865
Second.

2308
00:51:46,865 --> 00:51:48,087
OK. All those in favor,

2309
00:51:48,087 --> 00:51:49,035
please say

2310
00:51:49,035 --> 00:51:50,123
yes. Yes. Yes.

2311
00:51:50,123 --> 00:51:50,717
OK.

2312
00:51:50,717 --> 00:51:51,158
See you

2313
00:51:51,158 --> 00:51:51,642
next...

2314
00:51:51,642 --> 00:51:52,084
see you

2315
00:51:52,084 --> 00:51:52,904
next Monday

2316
00:51:52,904 --> 00:51:53,834
. I guess we...

2317
00:51:53,834 --> 00:51:54,608
See you on

2318
00:51:54,608 --> 00:51:56,222
Monday.