everyone my apologies I'm going to have
to learn to leave a little earlier to
come down from
shelburn um we'll now ask staff to re
begin recording and I guess they have
this meeting is being live streamed and
publicly broadcast the recording of this
meeting will also be available on our
website in the
future uh we'll Now call the meeting to
order and just a reminder of the
training that we had on Monday night uh
be kind tonight especially to our
treasure I'll Now read the uh land
acknowledgement statement we'll begin
the meeting by sharing the land
acknowledgement statement respectfully
acknowledging that duffrin County
resides within the traditional territory
and ancestoral lands of the Tiani at
Randon anani and the anes naavis people
we also acknowledge that various
municipali ities within the county of
duffrin reside within the treaty lands
named under the halderman deed of 1784
and two of the Williams treaties of 1818
treaty 18 the NWA Saga purchase and
treaty 19 the agis
treaty these traditional territories
upon which we live and learn are steeped
in Rich indigenous history and
traditions it is with this statement
that we declare to honor and respect the
past and Pres present connection of
indigenous peoples with this land its
waterways and
resources I'll now ask the uh clerk to
do a roll call please thank you
councelor kran pres councelor guardos
present councelor Garretts present
councelor Hall present councelor Hawkins
present councelor little present
councelor mlan present councelor Mills
Pres
councelor Nicks present councelor post
present councelor wrench I'm here
councelor Solomon present councelor
Taylor present councelor white present
and Warden Herer present thank
you and we'll move on to the approval of
the agenda may I have a motion to
approve the agenda and the
addendum uh moved by Mills seconded by
oh I don't know Garretts they all went
up um all those in
favor
carried
uh we'll now move on to
uh at this point members of council are
required to State any pecuniary interest
uh please State the interest and the
general nature thereof declarations must
be verbal and in writing and can be
emailed to the clerk
yes sir um anything regarding staff
salaries I declare a conflict due to a
family member who works at the county
okay thank
you approval of the minutes um approval
of the minutes of the election of warden
meeting and regular meeting of Council
on December 12th
2024 uh please note that the election of
the warden minutes have been amended to
properly reflect that councelor Nicks as
well as councelor Solomon voted for
councelor little to be the chair of the
Community Development and Tourism
Committee may I have a motion to adopt
the minutes from the election of the
ward meeting as amended and regular
meeting of Council on December 12th 2024
moved by councelor post and Seed by uh
councelor little all those in
favor
carried we now have a proclamation or a
delegation from PC mlan duffen op
regarding the annual Polar Plunge
challenge I'd like to um invite
provincial Constable mlan from duffo P
to
delegate excellent uh first and foremost
I want to thank uh County Council for
having me on there today um I know I
signed up short notice but I want to to
make sure that I got the information
about the Polar Plunge out to the County
Council um and to invite the counselors
that uh sit uh within the municipalities
to participate within the Polar Plunge
um it's not my first time coming to
various councils for this so I fig that
this was the best opportunity where I
can hit all the municipalities all at
once and I encourage each uh delegate
from County Council to bring it back to
their individual councils within their
municipality
um I know that I see a couple Mayors
Deputy Mayors counselors that kind of
cringe as soon as they saw my name on
the board um mayor Mills being one of
them and uh Deputy Mayor mlan so uh for
those that participated last year um I
believe we had six or seven different
delegates from County Council um as well
as I know Orangeville Council has some
Representatives so I want to thank
everybody once again for participating
in this very important event and I want
to encourage those who did participate
last year um whether it was donations or
actually participating in the event to
come on out again this year um just a
bit of a background for those who are
unaware as to what the Polar Plunge is
what it is is it's a fundraiser that uh
we hold across the province I believe
there was about 25 across the province
last year um where people jump in a body
of water for Special Olympics so they
raise money um we in shelburn we've held
it this will be the fifth year total
between the sh Police Service and the
atar provinal police uh where we set up
a pool everybody jumps in once the fire
department fills it up and rais a lot of
money I believe that between shelburn
and op we've raised well over $100,000
for Special Olympics alone which up
until last uh the three events preco we
were beating out police services that
were running the event like uh Toronto
police we're being a peel region and all
that so it's amazing for such a small
community to uh continue to raise amount
of money so um for the Polar Plunge
itself it's a part of the larger
fundraising initiative of the law
enforcement torrun which globally it is
the largest Grassroots fundraiser for
the Special Olympics so what the money
goes towards is it assists special
Olympians in training it assists them in
being able to participate in sport and
uniforms and all that sort of stuff um
and allows them to grow it gives them
the opportunity to fit in and become
champions
um we have numerous um athletes within
the community I want to say that the
duffing club alone uh probably consists
about 35 to 40 different athletes and in
Deen County we offer I believe it's six
different sports in total so it's very
important it's a lot of athletes do play
in several different sports uh between
summer winter and so forth um so it's an
extremely important uh program that we
kind of head up um this year's Polar
Plunge we have moved it um just to
coincide with another event that's going
on uh so it'll be on family day Monday
which is February 17th
2025 um and we've moved it over to the
agricultural barns in shelburn um that
way we can kind of collaborate with the
free Family skate that happens on family
day and we're not splitting the
community it's walking distance
basically everywhere in town and then we
can also um people can go there they can
have the free Family skate and then they
can go watch people be uncomfortable by
jumping in the pool and then they can
kind of go home so um this year is going
to be the first year where we haven't
held it at fiddle Park and again it was
just Logistics because we realized that
with the free Family skate we were
literally splitting the community so
we're just trying to bring everybody
together in a familyfriendly
atmosphere um in addition to uh this
year um I came to County Council I
believe it was in March of uh
2024 where um the warden at the time
actually awarded what I nicknamed the
Frozen belt so what I did is I've gone
out as a member of Def op and we've
bought a uh literally a wrestling belt
that we've completely done up uh
specific to duffen County for the polar
plch so what this belt is is the highest
fundraiser for the event ends up winning
this belt and they get a little uh
replica belt that they get to keep last
year and I think three out of the five
years that we've actually run it a
special Olympian has won the belt each
and every time so and I can tell you
right now I've been contact with his
father he literally displays the belt in
his room he carries it around he brings
it to events and all that sort of stuff
so it is a moment of Pride for him so
this year we're officially announcing it
where we'll be uh be presenting it on
stage at the event to make sure that he
gets the recognition that he deserves or
whoever wins it my apologies and at a
later date then we'll be awarding the
smaller replica belt and so forth so
last year I believe he raised over
$5,000 just by himself which is
incredible so and especially when on a
grand scheme of things the whole event
raised just over
$188,000 so this year we're hoping to
amp it up especially by having a
collaboration with other family day
events and hopefully we can make it
another great
success um last year as well we had
close to 80 plungers so this year
obviously we're looking for more um so
again i' like to challenge everybody
sitting at this table and to jump in
again this year if you jumped in
previously you know it's really not that
bad and we're always looking at ways to
make it a little bit easier on the
plungers as well last year we had a wood
burning sauna that was donated by Aaron
Downey um this year I'm going to reach
out to Aaron to see whether or not we
can have it on site again but just
logistically by having it at the
agricultural grounds um I'm I've asked
the shurn arena as as well to open up
the change room so then that way there's
also a shower option that if people want
to change in the warmth get showered up
and all that sort of stuff so then that
that way they're not cold throughout the
whole day so we're just looking at
different amenities and so forth to kind
of expand on it and if anybody at the
table has any suggestions I'd be more
than willing to hear about it um I
believe the clerk has my email address
feel free to shoot me off a message um
and so again I want to challenge
everybody at the table everybody that
sits on the municipalities um and can
send out uh flyers and all that sort of
stuff to everybody at the table so then
that way they can kind of broadcast it
out to their different delegates um the
website to sign up is polar plunge.
CA duffrin
and within that website as well you can
either register or you can donate um so
I would highly encourage people to
register either as a team or as an
individual you can be a team of one so
if you decide that you're going to go
with a certain team because we do uh do
a bit of a costume contest both
individual and team so if you decide
that you want to register as a member of
a team and your team's only one but
you're going with a theme by all means
we encourage it so um again I want to
thank County Council for inviting me out
here today and if there's any questions
by all means I'd be more than willing to
answer thank you Constable um any any
volunteers for the duffan county team
today they all look a little warm me but
thank you for your presentation and I
know you'll see some of us there
excellent thank you so much appreciate
it thanks from
last Darren says he's still cold from
year okay um is there anyone in the
public gallery that has a question if
you do please stand state your name and
your
address were there any
questions here yes is that where I stand
just you can stand here okay anyway my
name is
nisto I live on 2 po L9
W5
V1 okay the question I have today and I
spoke to a lot of residents from the
town of
Orangeville unfortunately the town of
Orangeville pass a budget with the 5%
increase just a penny less but I say 5 %
increase a lot of people they're not
very happy with that here we standing
here tonight so you have your your work
cut out because you're also looking a
5.6% increase so I hope this body here
tonight will do their best to lower the
budget I know I sat on this table for
three years as a deputy mayor it's not
an easy task but it can be done if you
put your mind to it to get bring it down
to zero so I leave it with that because
a lot of people I can tell you in the
town of or they not very happy thank
you yes who are they I haven't heard
from anybody not happy with well I can
tell you you know you know what kind of
work I
do one person has gotten in touch with
ha stylist I'm a hair stylist by trade I
I don't I don't believe you well you
don't believe in me why why you don't
believe in me no one has complained
about it General St were you in the
place when they told me sorry folks this
is an Orangeville exactly this is an
Orangeville discussion and I but what I
I brought to the attention over this
party here today because you also
looking at
5.6% increase yes so that's what I'm
looking and if you stick with the number
you know what that means for the T of
rville let's say you stick with the same
numbers that means orange Ville is going
to get hit with over 7% % increase
that's a hallway sh thank you thank
you thank you uh Gordon uh my name is
David W I'm a Tanda in Orangeville U my
question is kind of similar but I think
sorry my not uh being heard uh similar I
I would say you guys did a great job on
the budget uh really bring it down being
incredibly responsible and investing in
what we uh have been underinvestigated
not um but I think really the challenge
that all of us are in but Orangeville
more acutely um from my personal
perspective relates to more of a
structural um funding model uh challenge
right so I don't know if you're
comfortable doing this now or if you
would be willing to State this later
during the discussion but I would like
to know how many of you or individually
acknowledge that there's a funding model
problem that needs to be fixed right and
then if you acknowledge that proceed
with the discussion and fix it right um
but I think
it's going to be challenging for all of
you to have a meaningful discussion
debate and make some decisions um when I
think there's from my perspective in
watching a lot of these meetings online
um kind of a convenient denial that uh
the challenge even exists uh in some
cases and I think it's you got to call
it out so that we can fix it um so
whether you want to do that now or later
I leave that to you but I think that
personally I think is the problem that
needs to be fixed and I uh look forward
to um you doing that and I thank you all
for your service I know it's it's a big
job and I would appreciate you doing it
councelor
Garretts I just wanted to add that so
I'm Chris Garretts from Township amaran
and our Deputy Mayor Gail little is here
we have a delegation with the Minister
of Finance I sorry it's the
Parliamentary assistant at Roma in a
week and a half uh and the exact topic
is the the problem with the the funding
model so I think it's fair to say and
you know that that amaranth for one
recognizes that there's that there's an
issue an an equity issue um and I'm I
I'm confident in saying that yeah that's
amar's position
thank
mlan yeah uh thanks for coming in thanks
for the question I just wanted to be
clear on like what aspect of the funding
model do you have concerns with yeah gu
primarily I I guess would be
predominantly related to the uh the
capital investment component of uh
facilities right so I'm speaking to you
know libraries in some cases also the uh
community centers like Alder the rec
center um you know there are others I
mean right now obviously Tony Rose uh is
a whole other Kettle fish uh that's
going to be a big challenge um so I I do
acknowledge certainly that there are
contributions from an operating fees
perspective um and in some cases you
know higher than what Orangeville
residents would necessarily contribute
from an operating funding perspective
but uh the the capital investment and
also the corresponding costs either from
a legal perspective or you know
everything else that comes with it I
have to imagine there's been some legal
costs over at alter recently um you know
that that's significant I'm not sure
that's been captured uh sufficiently um
again you guys would probably know
better than me and I'm sure some of the
other colleagues here would know even
better than that but um you know when
you look at the tax rates across
municipalities and where where the costs
sit versus where the people are versus
where the land is and who has the
capacity to grow um from a tax base
perspective you know Orangeville got
pinched from a from a landmass
perspective um Inc capacity yet has the
line share of both the operating costs
and more significantly and acutely the
uh the capital investment needs um
without the corresponding commit
sufficient ability to find the funds
right and uh you know I think it would
be a bit extreme to uh you know make the
analogy that it's bit like Canada and
the states and the conversation that
Trump's having right now but uh there's
a bit of a free riter effect I think
that uh you know some people could uh
you know run the risk of having that
feeling and I don't think that's good
for the community when you know that
sort of Us Versus Them feeling and
sentiment and resentment can uh has the
capacity or the opportunity to start
faster right I think we've got an
opportunity now to nip it and uh I
challenge you to do it and I I I know
you will do your best and I hope you do
thank you you uh councelor
ni yeah I'm sorry to be a bit dense I'm
still not quite clear on the problem
you're identifying is it the share of
taxes being paid by municipalities
versus The Province or is it the share
of taxes being paid by Orangeville
versus the other municipalities in
different counties I'm not quite sure I
understand your
point I mean respectfully um councelor
Nicks uh if if you're not sure of the
problem then that's that in itself is
part of the problem um it should be
self-evident I I don't mean to be
disrespectful but it it should be clear
um I'm not clear I'm not clear of what
problem you're talking
about okay I I'm sure up in the
conversation well can't can't you just
sure I mean tell me sure I mean I I just
I want to be respectful of your time I
think I'm probably already over but uh
um it it would be the the portion like
Orangeville has uh operating and capital
costs related to its uh facilities right
whether it's every municipality does not
every municipality here has libraries
not every municipality here has rec
centers not every municipal here has
other you know I could go on right we we
I come from the town of mono sure we pay
for Library services to Orangeville
right which is what I we pay a higher
fee for going to the swimming pool than
Orangeville residents y I spoke to that
before that's where I I openly
acknowledge that you do contribute to
the operating cost component which would
be the staff in the building the heat
the hydro so so put it in plain English
what you're saying is the surrounding
municipalities don't pay enough is that
what you're trying to say I'm saying
that when Tony Rose uh needs to be fixed
knocked down uh replaced whatever answer
question um yes the the cost to build
the new facility whatever uh size shape
or form it takes um somebody's got to
build the building before you can
contribute your component of the
operating expenses right there there's
got to be a building and a service there
to begin with right and that's where
Orangeville has paid more than their
fair share for an awful long time so you
are saying that the surrounding
municipalities are not paying enough
okay I understand you know yes than
thank you councelor white thank you uh
Warden uh so essentially there's two
components to your your argument one
that I don't think you're aware of and
one that clearly you are aware of the
first one that I'll talk about is uh
there is a problem with the funding
model at the upper levels of government
and how they support or don't support uh
municipalities and the fact that
municipalities have to do 90% of the
work on 10% of the money uh there is
advocacy and discussion going on in
all of our Municipal organizations Roma
Western wardens Amo all of those groups
are are having those discussions on what
a better uh funding model looks like so
some of that uh if that ever uh realizes
any benefit some of that will be
addressed in that uh but you know with
regards to your other point um every
municipality here pays for libraries
it's just how do we do it uh in mangon
we pay into the shelburn Public Library
uh we do that with a a both a an
operating uh contribution and a capital
contribution based on budgets that are
set by that Library I would assume that
there's every different library has some
kind of agreement like
that yeah that that's fair so I mean but
with regards to recreation centers fire
departments all those things they're all
the same um from time to time those
Agreements are modified or exchanged or
right now we're looking at fire and how
that works uh going forward uh if a time
comes when we're going to discuss
libraries and whatnot or Recreation or
whatnot I mean those times will come
those that those discussions will be had
I think everybody around here at this
table staff included all want to see a
better vibrant thriving Community um and
uh you know but we can't do everything
all the time at the same time so it's an
evolving conversation and I think
everybody supports having that
conversation one last word just wanted
to just wanted to add similar to uh
counselor white amaranth p is operating
in capital to Grand Valley and shelburn
Rec Centers Grand Valley and and
shelburn libraries the reason we don't
to Orangeville is because some time ago
a a previous Council we're going back
decades had us removed from those AR
Arrangements so as a
result Aman now is obligated to pay zero
doar to the library and is obligated to
pay $ Z to your to the rec center for
Orangeville that was not our decision
that was the town of Orangeville
decision at the time so just wanted to
clarify that
appr thank you
sir okay um moving on and and it's great
to have some public involvement really
there's lots of days we go by here and
uh there's nobody from the public um and
you wonder does anybody care but yes
people do care so thank you for for your
uh
questions uh number nine is a selection
committee for the homelessness task
force uh the report from the clerk uh
dated January
9th so
um are we needing any further discussion
on this what we're asking for our at
least two individuals to be appointed uh
to the um selection
process do we Sorry I'd like to with
your permission nominate uh councelor
post for one of the positions councelor
post are you willing to stand yes
absolutely thank you councelor
Garretts and is there anyone else that's
interested Lisa um I think it would be
appropriate for councelor mlan as the
new chair of Health and Human Services
so if he's willing I would love to
nominate councelor mlan to join me are
you willing to stand councilor M I am
thanks councel post uh any further
interest or is that uh that everybody
that's interested okay so um the motion
reads I need to mover in the seconder
then um moved by councelor Garrett
seconded by councelor Hall that the
report from the clerk uh Cao
01225 selection committee homelessness
task force stated January 9th be
received and the selection process
outlined in the report be approved and
that counselors post and mlan be
appointed to sit on the homelessness
task
force all those in
favor
carried okay uh the next item is
9.2 the CAO evaluation committee again
the report from the CAO dated January
9th um we have a a motion um that the
report be received and we need some
volunteers for the evaluation committee
is anyone interested in sitting on this
committee Warden Warden horer I'd be
interested in joining you on that
committee right councelor post you're
going to be
busy councelor
Mills I'd be happy to join
both of you okay and we need one more uh
I don't know who to pick first let's uh
councelor little your hand I think I saw
first thank you yes I I would be uh
honored to be a part of that committee
as well but uh you know if if uh we have
counselor Nicks as well so we have
everybody on this committee we actually
should just have four so um well we need
an election or what do we do no I'm I'm
quite happy if councelor little wants to
I will be sure to consult with councelor
next as
well it's that's probably a good thing
councelor okay so
um did we get a move in a second
or okay so I need to move in a second
for this McAn and uh kelman that the
report from the chief administrative
office report CAO
20252 CAO evaluation committee 2025
dated January 9th 2025 be received and
that the following members be appointed
to the CAO evaluation committee for 2025
Warden Herer councelor uh post councelor
Mills and councelor little all those in
favor that one's carried okay
um the next uh
exciting item is the budget and I know
you're all just sitting on the edges of
your seats I know we have appreciated
the the questions that have occurred
before the um the budget process so that
you can get some clarity on what you
read and you know sometimes it's not
easy to just figure out the numbers and
and the intent so the questions were
welcome and uh we appreciate those
questions ahead of time so Amy I'm going
to turn this over to you and um you can
walk us through this actually excellent
document thank
you I'm just going to say one thing if
that's okay hor horer and that is just
um from a logistical perspective we
thought uh in between each of the
committee presentations we would take a
five minute break and either after um
the infrastructure Environmental
Services presentation or after the ggs
presentation we'll take a longer 20 to
25 minute dinner break so if that works
for everyone just so we all are clear on
what's Happening and uh now it's all
over to
Amy just just a second Amy before we
begin are you wanting questions as
you're presenting or do you want us to
wait until the end of each section
I actually cover that in the overview
section once I read through the overview
section I will let you know but pretty
much as you go through keep us in
yeah okay so Sonia and I are kind of
working together here she's going to run
the
presentation just waiting for it to come
up on the screen
okay so I'm going to start with a
condensed version of the budget overview
that we had it in uh December before we
move into the Committees and I'll warn
you I have added a couple of slides to
the overview section that weren't
included in your
package so this chart summarizes the
20124 next slide Sonia 2024 and 2025
budget as well as our plan for 26 2027
and
2028 next slide although most of the
slides today will include the 2026 to
2028 plan we will be focusing on 2024
and
2025 at a high level this chart shows
that our 2025 total operating expenses
are 161 including Capital uh work is 161
million a significant jump over 2024
mainly due to the larger capital
projects non Tech
tax revenue is $98 million which
includes $22 million in debt to fund the
capital projects lastly we plan on using
nearly $14 million in reserves and
development charges with over $10
million going towards
Capital this is what we call the status
quo budget it represents the cost to
continue doing exactly what we
do uh and it requires over $ 48.9
million in tax levy which is an increase
of 1.5 million or 3.2% over
2024 I think you skipped ah head Sonia
currently proposed uh we have $1.8
million in additions to the status quo
budget these
include new positions with a value of
$413,000 previously committed of 295,000
and new to 2025 things we haven't seen
before of $1.1
million combine the status quo the the
status quo results in a
7.08% increase sorry I'm looking at I'm
looking at the screen I'm seeing 5.5 cuz
I'm looking at the far
side and when we take into consideration
growth we we leave leaves this at
5.6% which is approximately
$22.40 for each $100,000 of
assessment although the focus today is
2025 I would be remiss if I didn't yeah
if I didn't point out that 2026 2027 and
2028 show some significant increases
these include the F year impact of items
proposed in 2025 such as the paramed X
Edition uh and new staff they also
include future debt payments for
proposed borrowing we will need to do
renovations to this building as well as
a new Operation Center and increase
contribution to the housing strategy as
always the future years are estimates
and are subject to change but these are
our current projections
now I'm just going to summarize some of
the uh priorities that we have some
major initiatives and projects to
support the Strategic plan within
climate and environment we have the
better home retrofit program climate
master plan the county buildings energy
retrofit study that I'm just going to
put an aster on that we'll come back to
that later electric vehicle charging
station for County Fleet long-term Waste
Management strategy update and audits
within the community priority we have
housing strategy implementation upgrades
and capital maintenance on the housing
stock paramedics Services master plan
additional paramedic shift in
shelburn under economy we have advancing
the workforce strategy for early early
childhood Educators countywide Community
Improvement plan investment attraction
program tourist to development and
governance we plan to review the
committee meeting structure progress on
the new Operation Center Adel Brock
Center improvements completing the
digital modernization projects and
fundraising and sponsorship plan for the
Museum of duffen and then lastly with
Equity getting implementation of the
older adult strategy Transit
improvements countywide Community
Improvement plan investment attraction
program tourist development indigenous
education training so we have a lot of
different projects that we've kind of um
that we have on the go
and I just wanted to throw in a summary
of the proposed additions by category so
the bottom there adds up to $1.9 million
which includes the
capital uh New Capital so the total
revenues are are $2.3 million expenses
are 4.9 with transfers net transfers
um of $710,000 and then capital
investment is 118,000 and that just want
to note that that's the net capital
investment am uh new new
stuff that's being funded by a tax
levy
okay some other considerations today if
you're looking to reduce the tax levy um
there's really only a few ways you can
do that one is to increase revenues
which is very difficult in municipal
government second we can look at
increasing expenses but that too can be
difficult um and have future year
impacts you can certainly postpone or
remove specific projects for uh for
future years or you can consider
changing service levels but often such
changes do take time and will not impact
the current year very much if at all
these are typically more longer term
strategies we can create a list of these
items for future discussion today if we
want to you can also reduce the contrib
tion to Capital this doesn't necessarily
mean the removal of items from the work
plan because generally that work still
needs to be done and we've been raising
money for it over the years it would
impact future uh work plans though
lastly you can also apply more
reserves I just want to note that 1% of
tax levy is approximately
$475,000 for each committee we will
review the Departments which it covers
and then Within for each division within
the department we will split out
revenues expenses expenses transfers
from reserves providing
highlights we will where appropriate we
will also highlight any proposed
additions before moving to moving on to
capital for that Division if at anytime
you do have questions or you would like
to discuss a particular item please let
me know I will do my best to pause but I
do have a tendency just to keep going
because there's lots to say so feel free
to interrupt me and the other thing I
wanted to note
um Sonic can you go back a couple okay
or open up the other one just in the
upper right hand corner of the slide it
does reference the page number within
the package where there's more detail if
you do want to go and look at
that so now we're going to move on to
IES
okay infrastructure and
environment this committee only includes
public
works at the beginning of each
department can slide down a couple
slides
sorry um I Prov a summary showing the
status quo of each division So within
Public Works we have operations in Fleet
engineering climate energy facilities
Waste Services in County
forest they have a proposed 4.6% overall
increase and then the next slide shows
the totals for each
division next
slide um including any proposed
additions so for for public works that's
6.9% this Capital um chart summarizes
the capital for the Department showing
the value of the proposed work in purple
the value of the capital asset Fund in
Orange and the required Levy in
blue I like this chart because it
provides a nice summary of the capital
overall over 20 years and it reminds us
that we do look at the 20-year plan when
we're coming up with the levy
requirements
uh this includes roads and structures as
well as the adro center the courthouse
Waste Services and operations and County
forest I want to note that this is based
on the information that we had at the
time recognizing that the roads and
structures will change as we finalize
our updated Capital plan in support of
the implementation of the road
rationalization
study okay let's move into the
individual divisions
operations and
Fleet
okay revenues are are down
52% are
$164,000 government transfers includes
an increase in Winter maintenance
revenues to better reflect actual of
$10,000 and other revenue is a reduction
in staff and Equipment time essentially
that's their time spent on capital
projects
expenses the total increase here is
1.86% or
$115,000 public uh operations in fleet
has 21 full-time positions and 14
part-time winter seasonal
positions Staffing is not really down in
2024 or in 2025 it looks like it because
2024 we did include an extra amount for
the overlap of the operations manager
position additional highlights under
admin and office Consulting fees include
road safety reviews audits for
$20,000 increase in training to support
ongoing ongoing learning of Staff of
$1,850 we've added more staff over the
last few years uh and the training
budget didn't reflect quite enough
within Service delivery we have service
and rental contracts as well as
materials for Bridges and Calvert
of
$999,000 roadside maintenance of 79 hard
top and loose top maintenance of
$226,000 Safety Systems of just over
680,000 which includes lime painting
Hydro for lights guide rail repair and
winter control you go to the next slide
if you white and of $1.1
million and then it Communications we
shifted the annual fee for municipal 511
permit software from Service delivery to
software fees so it's not really an
increase
there any
questions see none you moving on to
transfers um 2024 we included that
manager overlap which is why there's no
we had that coming from reserves and
then the $775,000 is a transfer to
capital for future equipment
replacement moving on to proposed
addition the net for 2025 for operations
in Fleet is
$49,000 2026 2027 and 2028 see some
large increases as uh these relate to
the new Operation
Center next
slide previously committed the thermal
Road Network mapping involves using
temperature data from sensors and
satellite imagery to access road
conditions which we which will identify
hot or cold spots in the road Network
resulting in the ability to optimize
infrastructure management for safety and
efficiency and that is estimated $35,000
and is to be funded by the rate
stabilization plan
Reserve Fleet booking software it
enables users to reserve manage and
track vehicles in a shared Fleet
streamlining streamlining vehicle access
and optimizing Fleet utilization Annual
fees are $10,000 uh we purchased this
software I think in 2024 using a
grant and then the road Safety
Management soft software enables
datadriven decisions making decision-
making helps to reduce future collisions
and promotes Public Safety through
efficient traffic management and policy
enforcement implementation costs and
annual fees are estimated 20
G any question on
those Council next yeah I'm just I'm
having trouble keeping track of where I
am but I know you've got in your budget
you're going to borrow some money for
the southern Operation Center I think
about 20 $20 million I was curious and I
I know it's just a plan now you haven't
borrowed it but I'm curious um do you go
to infrastructure Ontario for that money
and do you have any sense of what uh
interest you they they would charge you
now and what type of loan is it is it
like a a mortgage loan where you pay
back a fixed amount per month capital
and interest over a certain number of
years do do you have any details on how
that loan works and if that's Maybe not
maybe it's premature to be asking this
I'm sort of curious because we sometimes
have considered in the town of mono
whether or not we could borrow money and
so I'd be interested in as to how it
works with infrastructure
Ontario um through you Warden I did look
into it in the fall and the rate at that
point I think was four and a quarter I
would assume that the rate has come down
since then um there's options you can
borrow so that you're only paying
semiannually or you can pay quarterly or
you can pay monthly my recommendation
would be monthly because the interest
costs will be lower over the long run um
when we do move to when we make the
final decision to borrow then will come
to council and we'll have a further
discussion on what those options are and
what the best rout is
okay okay uh new to 2025 we include a
guide rail inspection study which will
be used to ensure the safety barriers
are properly maintained identify areas
in need of repair or Improvement and
prioritize resources to mitigate risks
and protect Road users uh $60,000 this
also will be funded from the rate
stabilization
Reserve Road Patrol software is
necessary for summer and winter
patrolling as it helps track and manage
maintenance activities ensuring timely
responses to weather related road
conditions optimizing resource
allocation for safety and enabling
compliance with minimum maintenance
standards and with an annual fee of
18,500 any question on
those councelor mlan uh yeah I was just
curious what is the road safety
management software like what is that
intended to
do through you Warden um so that's the
software that we talked about the last
council meeting um where basically what
it allows us to do is to provide several
inputs as well as geometry of an
intersection and it can run through very
quickly different modeling for different
approaches different improvements or
changes to an intersection for example
so that we can come up very quick
quickly you know we talk often around
this table about whether an all stop is
appropriate additional Lanes um those
types of things and it just helps us do
that much more quickly because we
certainly are seeing um Road Safety is a
priority for us it seems to be a
priority for Council and it's a
challenge to respond as quickly as we
would like to and this will allow us to
do so okay thanks for clarifying that in
my head for some reason I was thinking
it was about tracking incidents or
issues but I remember the conversation
but to to that point it actually gives
us direct connection to the province for
cion data which currently takes a very
long time to obtain and now we have
realtime connection okay thank
you understand Phillip you have a
question thank you thank you I do it's
about the guide rail inspection um is
this generally not guide rails that are
part of bridge
structures because I'm under the
understanding that's usually done
through the OS study so is this are
these other guide
rails through you warden so typically or
generally yes um the answer would be yes
so right now in order to build our
Capital plan in a in a structured way
that's not only considering condition
and improvements but also upgrades um so
we do that for roads we do that for
Bridges we do not do that for guide rail
we typically respond when there's damage
um I've spoken with several members
around this table over the years where
the the standards for guide rail have
changed we have no plan to respond to it
it's simply we try to maintain what's in
place for as long as possible um until
it can't be anymore and at that point we
may upgrade to a steel post and and um
cable and those types of systems that I
think some of you have seen around the
county so this will give us a similar
sort of capital plan for how to actually
handle it in a in a more proactive
manner instead of us simply responding
to
damage anyone else
seeing none carry on
Amy okay shifting to Capital we will be
drawing down on the capital asset fund
uh for operations and Fleet over the
next few years on the bottom
line next Slide the there's a prior
carry forward
um essentially this is kind of the
difference between where we thought we
were going to be at the end of 2024 and
we actually may end up cuz it was still
an estimate when we calculated the
numbers but the $1 million is made up of
um we have a sign maker of $10,000 that
we're we didn't do in 2024 we're
carrying it in 2025 guide rails of
75,000 interior Renovations of 50 uh
Transformer and electrical work of
450,000 a rooftop unit of 15,000 carbon
monoxide detector of 10 Trails of 25 two
pickups of
120 engineering equipment of 49 and then
welcome signs of
200,000 and then that equals about
$11,000 and the difference is just some
surpluses from completed
projects there's a slight decrease next
slide in the capital Levy over 2024
before it starts um increasing and other
Revenue includes um yeah other Revenue
includes $150,000 for the Avil of older
equipment as well as the $725,000 we saw
being transferred from
operating next debt financing is by far
the largest number we will see in
contributions the amounts in 2025 and
2026 relate to the new Operation Center
and a new sand salt Dome and Primrose it
should be noted that the future
debenture costs for the building will be
offset by development charges and we
will also certainly be seeking any
grants that we can apply to bring down
the amount we have to
borrow moving on to the capital work
plan the capital work plan includes over
$24 Million worth of work for 2025 with
3.5 million in regular work and over $20
million we will consider in New Capital
Investments some of the highlights of
the different categories next SL under L
improvements we have ongoing replacement
of guide rails and intersection lighting
of 150 Grand
next
one and the county welcome signs uh it's
a $1 million project that we're
spreading over five
years won go
down buildings we have extensive
electrical work um to allow future
charging of electric vehicles of
$625,000 we have interior upgrades
including updates the kitchen washrooms
and storage space of 170 design work for
replacement of the sand salt Doms of
$800,000 just on the welome
signs just on the welcome signs uh did
we not go through a process of uh of
different
signage in recent
memory Scott I think we're going to look
at you on this one
through you Warden uh absolutely so that
was um facilitated through the economic
development team and we started to
install signs around the county and then
there was a slight pause due to some
unforeseen circumstances and we're
simply picking it up again so there's
several locations where we haven't
installed the signs that Council
ultimately supported at that point in
time
thank U moving on to equipment and
Machinery we have have um GPS and data
collector to be replaced for $49,000
which is carried over from 2024 and
replacement of a loader for
400,000 you might have noticed in your
slide deck the vehicle section I seem to
missed that um apologies on that we do
have purchasing two snow plows at
$440,000 each we have one patrol truck
and two engineering trucks one of the
engineering trucks is being carried over
from 2024 it's already been ordered we
just haven't received it yet
and then the new capital Investments of
course is the purchase of land and
construction of the new Southern
operations um Center cost or estimate
just hang on there's a question the the
vehicle one that's one of the questions
I had asked and I did get confirmation
just want to point out those are all
Replacements there's no increase in any
fleets at all and no yeah okay
thanks uh sorry the costs um on the new
Operation Center as we we will keep
probably reiterate is their estimates
only we be further refined as we move
into that
project okay summarizing operations in
Fleet the status quo budget is
5.3% when you add in capital that
becomes 4.8 which you won't actually see
on any of these charts because I just
didn't have time to switch them around
so that you could see it um but with
proposed additions the total increase is
5.55% and any other questions or
anything for operations and
Fleet none okay moving on to
engineering other
Revenue revenues are down $21,000 or
4.71% it includes this is essentially a
transfer of capital transfer to Capital
of Staff time spent on capital projects
we've reduced it to better reflect with
has actually been occurring other
Revenue also includes load permits of
$50,000 and aggregate royalty revenue of
about 80
grand next
slide engineering is one of the few
divisions where the expenditures are
actually going down
3.95% these salaries and benefits
include five full-time positions in two
summer students and the larger increase
than regular is because they did add a
position in 2024 and this is the full
full year impact of
it other highlights include within admin
in office
oh sorry councilor ni yeah I may just be
jumping ahead to the next slide but one
of the things you've got down for for
this is the road rationalization study
and I just I I had I had thought we'd
finish that Scott is there more work to
be done on that study I thought we not
only finished it but we approved it
uh through you warden so yes the study
is complete it was adopted by Council
staff were left to update the numbers
which is what uh our Treasurer noted
earlier that um we have yet to update
our 10-year Capital plan because we want
to have current numbers and there's also
some funds being carried for setting up
any agreements that are necessary with
any of the local tier municipalities
where we need to have them in
place thank you the total we have set as
is
$65,000 which includes the legal fees as
Scott had said um also in a minute
office is $75,000 carry over for the
climate risk assessment which started at
the end of last year vehicles and
Equipment uh will see a slight decrease
as uh we transition to electric
vehicles next SL yeah did that
one oh go back transfers thank you
there's less Reliance on reserves in
2025 which makes sense with the admitt
and office expenses that dropped um from
2024 we are using transfer from rate
stabilization to offset the cost of the
road rationalization study and the
climate risk
assessment proposed additions the net
for 2025 is only
$16,000 which slowly increases in coming
years
uh next slide so I do have in my notes
the entire kind of summary that is in
the package for each of the different
positions I'm happy to read that over
again or if everybody's okay I can just
skip it and get to the financial
details okay I think they're okay okay
um so the additional cost for this
position uh to start in March of 2025 is
$98,000 for salaries and benefits uh
with an additional 14 ,000 in support
cost for year one and then 11,000 year
after the annualized cost of the
position is
$119,500 and the cost is offset by new
fees for application Revenue estimated
at $100,000 shown there under new to
2025 within the previously committed we
have a as part of the ongoing digital
modernization project new asset and
maintenance management software programs
will be implemented in 2025 to allow for
better data management and Reporting the
annual fees are for part of the year
only it will be offset by reserves over
several years it be as we phase in that
the cost the impact on the levy the
total annual fees are approximately
$120,000 with a net cost of
2025 of
13,360 to
engineering I have exactly the same
notes for both
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um courthouse uh for for facilities
because facilities is sharing this and
then also under Finance because we're
we're using it so we're splitting the
cost 40 40
20% under new to 2025 is the um planning
and revenue fees that are anticipated
through updates the bylaw fee the
intention is that the revenue will
offset that new position related to the
application
review um and then the second phase of
the climate risk assessment we have in
there to be funded from rate
stabilization any questions on the new
items in
engineering councelor
Taylor through you Warden I just think
it'd be a good idea if we quickly talked
again about this position in particular
and if Mr Burns could just chat again
about what and why and it's important
because this is a big part of the budget
and I'd like to talk about each of them
as we go through uh
today um through you w so this one's
pretty pretty straightforward um you
you've heard us talk over the years how
development is increasing and we have to
perform development review and it's
something that generally is done um by
the engineering team somewhat side of
desk we do have one person who is
dedicated to that and um the manager
also spends an extreme amount of time
working on it as well and simply put uh
with the resources we have we cannot um
deliver within a reasonable time frame a
qual quality um set of comments so we
put some work into looking at what we
would need which would be this uh
individual this this position being
filled and put a fair bit of work the
team did a lot of work in the uh fees
bylaw to ensure that we're capturing
fees that previously were not included
and the $100,000 that's included in the
budget as a revenue is is a conservative
number um our estimates go as high as
187,000 somewhere in that ballpark
depending on the amount of development
that we're seeing so we do expect this
position to essentially be paid for
through the work that it's doing and
also providing a better service with
respect to um turnaround because one of
the delays um certainly I've said this
before and not ashamed to to state it
that um we we become part of the the
delay in that overall um development
application process for folks and we
want to provide a better
service just just a question Scott the
the person who would fill this job has
what kind of skills or
background through you Warden uh they
would very likely be a certified
engineering technologist or an engineer
who has background potentially in Urban
Design um and maybe development
construction those types of things so
they'd be very well versed in the
science behind development as well as
the actual inner workings of
construction and those types of things
so similar skill sets to what we have in
house we just don't have frankly enough
of it
okay anything further
Todd I'm just thinking again and while
we're all here whenever we go through
the salary piece um you know it's such a
personal thing but at the same time when
I think about what you just described as
who's qualified and then the
difficulties we've had getting people
again I always question are we going to
get
somebody because it feels like we're low
um we shall see we're we're we're
hopeful I mean we put a lot of energy
into reviewing what compensation should
be and and the total compensation
package that the county can provide and
um I think it's fair to say I'm looking
I'm looking at uh director Thompson that
it's fair to say that we are much more
competitive than than we once were and
therefore we are hopeful yes
yes ran if I can just add through you um
Warden um just want to remind folks that
from um from a wage perspective all of
our positions go through a formal job
evaluation process um and through that
job evaluation process it gets graded
and then there's a wage that's that's
attached to it so it's not really up to
um department heads to determine uh
salary we do have a formalized process
for that
anything
further yes Todd ever so quickly what
will we do if we determine that we're
low in the marketplace do we have
another fund or how do we go about that
what do we
do Rohan do you want to answer
that so uh great question for you chair
um so there's a couple of options uh for
us to take take a look at uh one would
be a review and revision of the actual
um
job um the job description uh to see if
whether or not all the required skills
qualifications all that sort of stuff
really ma match what we're what we're
requiring uh so that's that's one thing
for us to look at um the other thing I
think more broadly uh for the county to
to take a look at Council to take a look
at um is sort of the the the the
challenge that we're up against in terms
of competition right for talent and so
folks will recall that uh when we did
our last wage market review um Council
approved that um against our comparators
to to come in uh at the 55th percentile
and I understand that that um
historically was above uh what the
county uh normally did I believe we came
in normally at the 50th percentile um
and so um in this in this budget package
uh proposal this year uh folks will note
that there
is uh monies in in the budget to to
conduct another wage market review this
year we had agreed to do that on a on a
four-year period uh but Council um at
that point in time will have the
opportunity to decide if whether or not
we want to continue uh at the 55th
percentile or if Council would like to
um increase that percentile um to from
to help make the county be a little bit
more competitive from a total
compensation perspective in the uh
Recruitment and talent uh
peace councelor
McAn um thanks for that answer you may
have addressed my question I'm just
going to ask it anyway just in case um
so a lot of employers will have pay
bands right with uh a minimal salary and
an upper salary and then there's room
for the Department to negotiate in
between um the the figure so this is a
general question but I just want to use
the development reviewer as an example
so the
that's fine I'm just trying to wrap my
head around
process um I can actually answer that
question we budget at the middle of the
grade because that typically in it's
it's a guess right sometimes the people
come in lower some people come in higher
so when we budget we budget the middle
and then in the next year we adjust
depending on where they
land councelor Nick yeah I appreciated
councelor Taylor's questions but I
thought I heard at the beginning
that he declared a conflict of interest
if any subject of salaries comes up
didn't isn't that what you said Todd or
maybe I misheard but I thought I heard
him say he had a conflict of
interest I thank you for bringing that
forward I do have a conflict of interest
however I think over um certain
positions it's my right as a counselor
to ask questions about hiring so I will
do so if you'd like to file something
you're welcome to do so I I just I
miss when there's a vote I will not be
voting on salary
increases Sonia can you give us some
clarity just on this so we're
clear uh as
to whether this is an issue at this
moment what is an issue the conflict of
interest in In fairness Madam I I
don't think that's a fair question to
ask
Warden I think it's it's up to me and if
people in the room disagree with the way
I'm conducting myself they can they'd
have to file with the Integrity
commissioner but my intention is to
continue to ask questions and
participate in it when there's a vote
you will not be particip there vote I
will not be
voting
okay can we um keep going then any more
questions on this
person just a quick question on what the
annualized salary is because there's two
different numbers the one on the slide
deck is 112 and the one in the budget
documents is 119 is the 119 the accurate
figure the 112 on the slide deck is the
cost for
20125 and the 119 is the annualized cost
so 2025 is only the 112 is for Mark from
March to December okay understood thank
you
else no go ahead then
Amy okay uh so no other questions on the
proposed addition so we can move on to
Capital similar to other divisions we
see a value of the capital asset fund
decrease over the next few years before
it starts to increase
again next
Slide the prior year carry forward
includes
$320,000 for a covert that we shifted um
into a future year some payment
preservation work and design work for
future stru future structure replacement
and
Roads and the balance of savings from
2024
projects moving on to Capital
contributions engineering is one of the
very few divisions that have dedicated
government transfers for Capital we have
included Canada community building fund
of
2,699 25 and the antario Community
infrastructure fund of sorry
$734 um we were actually expecting a
decrease in the oif and we did get an
increase and we included that in the
budget other
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contributions no too far oh go back up
one more it's touchy um other Revenue
includes contributions from from
Developers for second line and duff duff
Road 109 realignment we have transfers
from rate stabilization incl rate
stabilization Reserve included for the
environmental assessment of duffen Road
109 and lastly we have some development
charges for duffen Road
25 moving on to Capital work we have
$1.1 million planned work for
engineering next slide this includes uh
carryover the environmental assessment
for duffen Road 109 of 600,000 which is
to be funded from reserves as the actual
cost is still to be determined the
design and investigative work for second
line and Def Road 109 realignment of
1.05 million design and invest
investigative work of Road 109 for 2026
work and resurfacing of 13.7 km of duon
Road 25 at a cost of $6.5 million this6
and a half does include a million do
approximately a million dollars for the
addition of buffer Bike Line bike
planes structures includes work on uh
four culverts at a cost of 2.38 million
futuree design work of
$132,000 and small structural repairs of
102 just a question Amy do you think uh
Premier Ford will be coming after our
bike
lane I'm not answering
that um summarizing engineers wrench has
a
question thanks um I I actually I
actually have a serious question about
bike Lanes um and I'm curious Beyond 25
being a county
road is is there could could uh Somebody
explain why we would put bike
Lanes there and not on another road that
perhaps has less traffic and or provides
much more
Scenic uh views and and a
ride Mr Burns would you like to answer
this glad to um through you warden
so um it's it's kind of a point of you
need to start somewhere so years ago
when we started doing the pave shoulder
program which can be used for multiple
things including cycling there would be
sort of seemingly random parts of the
road Network where you happen to be
doing Capital work and you would build
the shoulders out in line with the
standard of the day that was articulated
through the duffing County active
Transportation Trails plan so we did
that now it's starts to look a fair bit
more normal because those things are
actually interconnected amongst one
another this particular piece and even
the additional width is coming from the
approved Transportation master plan that
came through as part of the U Municipal
comprehensive review that you may recall
and it gave us guidance as to where we
should be doing certain types of work um
around active transportation and this is
one of those examples so it is from Duff
from Road 10 to 89 so it is kind of an
isolated portion but that's a portion of
road that we are working on that calls
for this and therefore it is the right
time to do it um but it is important I'm
glad that council is aware that this
additional work is going to cost
approximately a million dollars on top
of what that that project would would
regularly cost we're going from
approximately a 9 M wide platform to a
12 or 12 and 1/2 meter wide platform um
so this is kind of the first piece of or
element of the uh Transportation master
plan that we're implementing and I'm I'm
I'm glad that everybody's becoming aware
of it because if anybody wants to have
any further discussion on it now would
be the
time councelor
Garretts Phil are you finished or would
you like to carry
on he if if I might just a clarification
the the cost isn't
really my biggest
concern it's it's whether or not that's
the most appropriate place to put a bike
lane and I'm going to reference a
conversation that we had in 2024 about
traffic in meanon with horse and Buggies
and where it's going um and I I'm just
I'm just not sure if putting a bike lane
on a County Road from a safety
perspective is the best
idea go ahead scun through you Warden um
so so that would
be um what would be driving the design
here so I I'll try to describe it as
best I can so you'll have your your
typical traveled portion of the road
with the center line and the white fog
lines um so if we look at one side of
road you've got your Center Line your
white fog line and then approximately
ballpark a meter from there there'll be
another white line and beyond that white
line is where the bike lane is so it's
actually buffered from the the traveled
portion of the road intentionally such
that it can function well even in a
situation where there might be increased
traffic and that is the standard of the
day that seems to be working in many
locations because there is a real push
to have
interconnectivity um between settlement
areas essentially everywhere and
depending on what the road is um you'll
see that kind of a structure come out
whereas some of them still call for our
standard pave shoulder width which um
would be on a lower volume road so in
short the specific response the geometry
of the response is in line with um
contemplation towards safety on that
particular
Road okay um councelor Garrett's next
and then councelor white yeah just just
quickly for Mr Burns is there a plan
then in the tenure Capital to do the
southern portion so that so that it goes
all the way to Grand Valley yep so so
through you Warden yes so any time that
we would and I can't recall you have to
forgive me I don't remember the all of
the details of the maps that are within
the transportation master plan but our
intent would certainly be to not leave
it as an island and I am 100% confident
that the transportation master plan did
not ask for it to be an island so it it
it will be over time you'll see that
whole Road be built
out thank you white thankk you um I mean
I struggle a little bit with this given
the section I mean 10 10 to 89 I travel
that road a lot I mean Philip's right I
mean it's not the right spot for one I
don't think and I don't think you would
ever get any use or anybody would take
use of it and when you look at if if
you're talking about interconnectivity
of
communities there's there's no Community
to interconnect to going north out of
there you go up and you go up as far as
89 there's no communities along 89
unless you're in shelburn I would think
that money would be better spent the the
the nice bike ride and the where you
would get a lot of use would be south of
10 down to 109 um which is down the road
somewhere I I so I struggle with that
and and I struggle with it because we
just there's been a fair bit of County
Road work done in mton recently knowing
the issues we have around menites and
whatnot and none of that type of stuff
was considered for those stretches so
you know and even up there I would I
would struggle with some of it in some
of the areas but not in others so I I
don't I don't know if that's the right
spot to spend a million dollars on a on
a bike Lan
thanks go ahead uh through you warden so
so certainly and that I'm glad we're
talking but it again the the reason that
it's that piece is because we're there
doing Capital anyhow so to come back to
it at some future date would be um much
more costly it wouldn't be the same
quality um etc etc so if we were going
to do it we would we would do it when
we're Paving that out and ultimately
over time the whole Road would receive
that treatment so it is simply a
starting point in isolation does it look
odd yes if we left it simply as that
Island yes that would be a strange
decision but that is not the intent but
certainly if Council wanted to change
the direction on something as to whether
or not we're building out 25 um we could
do that this is simply the the starting
point as far as interconnectivity goes
um you know I mentioned settlement areas
and those types of things it go it goes
farther than that there are a lot of
people the the networks for cycling go
far beyond simply you know Orangeville
to shelburn for a lot of people and I
think that's the overall intent for
things is to have the bulk of um sort of
easy access routes accessible for
cycling um and this is simply part of
that so again this came through all the
consultation from the TMP um was adopted
by Council which is why this is here and
and again I'm very glad that we're
talking about
it councelor white thanks thanks Warden
um yeah I I I understand the logic and I
don't disagree with any of the logic but
where I struggle with is the life cycle
of that pavement is what 20 years going
to be
20 um with with the the way that we're
taking care of our roads now we may see
some roads that go beyond that yeah um
for a period of time we're seeing 12 to
15 years and now we're we're we're
expecting to see 20 25 years maybe even
more in some cases particularly because
we have preventative maintenance
programs when we're doing multi-lift
asphalt we can go back and the next
Capital cost is far less because it's a
a peel and pave as opposed to a full
reconstruction Etc so that's a long
answer but so the point of my question
would be if we're assuming 20-year
lifespan I don't I don't see a need for
it 20 years from now either so you know
that's sort of where my thought process
is with that just my thought councilor
mlan yeah thank you um and I can
appreciate the position you're in Scott
because I think uh the reason that you
have put this in the budget was because
it went through the MCR process so it
was informed through a process that was
also approved by this Council so um
you're not pulling this out of your hat
you're going by a plan that's been
already approved so I want to recognize
the position you're in but I do I do
agree with the comments that were made
that this
um on first blush doesn't seem to make a
lot of sense in terms of where we might
want to allocate our resources from a
priority standpoint um I know that when
we've had broad discussions not just
with you but with with everyone we
talked about widening roads where there
are more slow moving vehicles and there
there was a the question was always
raised around whether we had the funding
to do it um and here we've got some
funding to do a large stretch that to me
doesn't seem to um have a lot of slow
moving vehicles on it so I would agree
with councelor white Council wrench that
perhaps there might be an opportunity to
save a little bit of money on this
project um I agree I don't even see in
in 20 years or 10 years that we would
even need to go back and add this Lane
in but um I think this is one
opportunity where we could potentially
reinvest into other areas of the
county thank you Amy um if I may I just
uh wanted to say because of gas tax
money and development charges if we were
to reduce this project by $1 million we
would only save $100,000 of tax
levy so
Garretts but Amy if we were to use it in
another location that would we would
realize
the rather than cutting it it it just
switching locations which I think is
what some people are suggesting that
would
the gas tax could still be used for that
project uh yes it could um we only have
this is the only project we have gas tax
applied to in 2025 it's the only project
but yeah we could use the gas tax in
future years I understand the concerns I
understand why we're doing it like the
efficiency of doing it while we're doing
the road work so I think that's great
where I struggle a little bit is doing
that in the same year we're we're doing
an active Transportation master plan
because it's
and I understand why you're doing it but
but it could be that the trans the
active Transportation master
plan uh doesn't see a need for for bike
Lanes in that
location um and then there is the
council mlim brought up and I I did get
a nudge and a whisper from counselor
Hall there there have been other
locations where uh safety concerns
related to Traffic such as the slow
moving vehicles and some
sidewalks um
potentially could the money could be
used for some of those projects so I'm
struggling with this one but the I just
um with can you speak to why we would do
it ahead of the active Transportation
master
plan uh through you warden so the
transportation master plan touched
on primary routes I I forget the exact
terminology but generally looked at some
primary routes for active transportation
um that would then inform further
details in a reconstruction of a new
active Transportation plan so the
intention there would be that the
elements from the Transportation master
plan would stay um and it would it would
build on that of course that is to the
discretion of of council absolutely I
just want to make it clear also that if
we choose to not do this particular
piece we are actively changing the
routing of the current trans
Transportation master plan and the
vision that it was built on which at
this moment I can't recite all of the
parameters that it came to its
conclusions on but it would have it
would have included a look at local a
look at provincial look at all of these
things to try to build a fabric and if
we start to make if we make a decision
tonight on this I just want to make sure
that we're not subjectively applying
those those studies so maybe it means a
fundamental shift to that particular
route maybe it's off I'm not exactly
sure how we deal with that maybe that's
a future discussion but it does have the
potential to change a lot of things that
we thought were
decided I just I do I am hearing some
significant concern on this item though
could I just add one other thing with
just anecdotally I think it will be used
well used because you know living in the
area there there are a lot of bike users
east west across County Road 10 that do
go uh North I don't know where they're
going to in the north but they do go
north on
125 so so yeah and maybe it's just a
loop but I I think it will be used like
it's used the roads used now I don't
know if the folks from Grand Valley uh
or if you even have any numbers but you
you know you do see bikes there so I
think it'll it will be used but it's I
have the same concerns as everybody else
and maybe it's not the best and that's
where I struggle
because it's the efficiency of doing it
when we're doing the road work so I'm
not I'm
torn
Scott um and might it might be a case of
if you build it they they will come
which is a lot of you know active
Transportation but but Warden Herer
absolutely I'm not I'm not trying to
just simply defend keep I just want
Council to be aware of of the domino
effect that this will create it'll have
to be an Engaged conversation at some
point likely through the active
Transportation plan where we would
intentionally rejig this particular
route and acknowledge that we've changed
it that that that's
all councelor
Mills thanks
more of a technical question just in
terms of of funding Amy a couple of
minutes ago you had mentioned that this
was the only project that that we had
identified for gas tax dollars so I I
just want to make make sure I mean if if
some counselors are thinking that we
could essentially swap the million
dollars that's earmarked for this
project in the draft budget to something
else which hasn't yet been identified
this year uh as as as you know being um
available for for gas tax funding is it
as easy as doing that or does that mean
that we would have to bump some other
project off to next year and and make
that sort of eligible for gas tax
dollars uh three you Warden uh the gas
tax I think we
have I can't remember it's three years
or five years to use it so we can bump
the gas tax money into future years I
off the top of my head I can't recall
what is in the 2026 capital budget for
roads but I know there's not a lot lot
of different rows the next few years
because we're focusing on
109 okay so so for example say it was
council's wish to to you know scrap this
this particular project and to move that
million dollars to to build a bike lane
or or expanded with on on another road
somewhere in the county and the wish
were to do that this year can we do
that um through you Warden Mr Burns is
shaking his head no I I thought that was
the case I I just don't want anybody
thinking that it's as simple as just
moving money from this to something
else Scott go ahead through you Warden
it is not that simple that's
all anything further I think we' pretty
well beat this one to death oh Bardon
white I mean counselor white former
former Warden that guy that guy that
used to be um I I I don't disagree that
it's you know it's it's as easy as you
know just changing a line on a on a
paper but I also don't agree that if
it's a project that we don't think
should move forward that we spend money
just because somebody gave it to us and
I think that's one of the things people
get uh hesitant about when they talk
about politics at all levels is like you
know this this this notion that some
people have that we have money therefore
we must spend it you know if i' I'd
rather take that money we can't move it
out of that project then I'd rather do
more Lane kilometers of the actual Road
for example if if we're hamstrung by
where we can spend it then instead of
going from 10 North maybe we go down to
five and go north uh you know with
actual road work for people to actually
travel on or something like that I don't
but I think if we're looking at spending
it just because we have it I think
that's the wrong
approach thank you
okay let's um how do we proceed here
Amy oh yes sorry just just point of kind
of a Clarity if we decided not to do the
bike lanes and so we that be saving us a
million dollars we could roll that
forward to a project NE next
year right and we wouldn't lose any of
the tax gas tax yeah absolutely we don't
have to use all our gas tax each year so
from my perspective that the discussion
here is we're thinking that we can
utilize this
money uh at a better level higher level
that's going to be more effective than
than perhaps on the bike Lanes going up
from 10 Side Road 289 at this point in
time so then I I don't know what we do
to do we need would we need a motion to
delay that to give direction
yes thanks Madam Warden uh if Council
would like to remove the $100,000 from
the tax levy that's related to this
project then um just sort of by
consensus we can we can um do that and
Amy will keep a running list of all of
those items and when we've gone through
the whole budget she will have a list
with the amounts of each item and then
at the end you can vote on the total of
those items rather than making motions
throughout the proc process it's just a
little bit easier if uh we keep a
running total and then you vote on them
all at the
end I like that okay okay so we'll we'll
have that as a as a oh yes Mr
Burns sorry Warden if I'm becoming a
nuisance so so I I think if if Council
wants to do that um great and I think
what we would do is very likely go back
to sort of our standard cross-section so
there would still be a paved shoulder
but it wouldn't be
as extensive if that makes sense to
council because there's multiple reasons
why you may want to PVE a shoulder side
from cycling Etc so we'd probably revert
back to our standard which um you see
mono on road 18 several other roads um
so that would probably so you'd still
see something out there not just to the
the level at which we were talking when
we first
started okay so Amy you've got note then
all right we'll let Amy carry
on uh thank you thank you okay so I
think we left off on
uh summarizing engineering the status
quo being
3.83% with capital that becomes 1.08 and
with the proposed additions it's 1.42%
of course the change we made today is
not included in these
numbers climate and energy
okay climate energy their expenses are
down $935,000 or 60%
that is because there's one item in
admin in one item in Service delivery in
admin I think that we have actually in
2025
new um they include three full-time
positions and two contract um summer
intern positions and salaries and
benefits are up a little bit extra
because we have two admin staff and
operations that we have redistributed
amongst all the divisions so there's a
slight increase there because of
that other
highlights um advertising promotions and
special events are
$30,500 Consulting fees are $25,000 and
corporate climate training is
$5,000 there's an aster beside climate
training because the plan was to have
the majority of the work done in
2024 but due to unforeseen circumstances
the vendor on the vendor side they were
not able to get all the work done and
there's about $7,000 that needs to be
carried into
20205 and because we've already raised
those those tax dollars in 2024 I'm
proposing that we adjust the 2025 budget
for increasing the training to by $7,000
but also having that being funded from
the rate stabilization
Reserve Service delivery includes an
increase in the rural water quality
program to $60,000 and support for
experimental acres and youth climate
activation Circle which totals
$224,000 other highlights in it and
Communications software costs include
annual fees for energy management
software of
$10,000 energy modeling software of ,000
and Adobe licenses of 3,000 I just
wanted to talk about the Adobe licenses
the licensing model for Adobe has
changed and so there's a lot of
increases across all um it in a lot of
Divisions because we now have to pay an
annual fee whereas we just used to have
to buy the license and hope it lasts
forever yeah um the net next Slide the
net increase uh for proposed additions
is $888,000 in 2025 most climate and
energy additions are Project based with
the exception of the staff which are not
being proposed until uh
2026
previously
committed
sorry yeah I just wanted to note on this
page and I've already mentioned it to
Scott that that we're putting in $2
million for the home retrofit program
which I think is great the the
awkwardness is that we can't can't
publicly announce this program because
the funding agency hasn't hasn't given
us permission yet but we are planning to
do it in next year this this year
because we have it in the budget the
part uh I didn't understand if you go to
the next page where it has the better
homes Duffer and energy retrofit program
I got that then down below it has
buildings retrofit study $200,000 with
an aster and
I is that different than than the energy
R what is this
$200,000 for building retrofit study Amy
uh through you Warden that is a that's
something different and I will talk to
that when I get to that for sure um but
the Better Homes Deen energy retrofit
project it's the project total
is
11 11 and A4 million doar um over four
years we don't know how much we're going
to spend each year we've just put in an
estimate based on the cash flow that
we've developed with the with um um
fcm yeah when we can announce it we'll
announce it and I I think the reason I
had brought it up with Scott it's going
to be really important when we announce
it that I think all of us counselors
have to sort of be ambassadors to this
program when we go back to our
municipalities and let our residents
know that this program is there and they
can apply for it and do all kinds of fun
things but we can't announce it yet no
okay
so Amy we've been approved but we can't
say anything that's right is that
right maybe we've been approved we don't
know we are awaiting a formal
announcement as to who is receiving the
funding okay so that announcement has
not been made the official announcement
through you Warden correct um and we are
hoping to learn whether or not we are
successful very very shortly um and the
plan ultimately should we be successful
would be to to immediately start
reaching out to um the local tier
municipalities to talk about the LIC
bylaws we have a draft that can be used
to help get those things through and we
would be hopeful to have a program up
and running roughly mid 2025 should we
be successful
thank you for that
Clarity and I just wanted to state that
this program has zero cost to the county
other than staff time um it is funded
there will be a cash flow issue in
coming years but we're confident we'll
be able to manage that because people
who are eligible for the program do have
10 years to pay
back plus
interest um new to 2025 is that did add
legal fees just because they have found
that there's a lot more contracts with
vendors and different funders that need
to be reviewed so we've added in $10,000
for that we have a scheduled update to
the de climate action plan which will
merge the duff climate adaptation
strategy and include a corporate climate
plan into a single 10-year climate
Master strategy and action plan of
$250,000 um we are offsetting that by
transfer from Reserve rate stabilization
of $200,000
based on strong positive results
residents survey results residents have
requested a rain barrel subsidy program
for all residents in duffen County to
encourage on-site storm water management
of
$25,000 the 20 the town of Orangeville
already provides the service to its
residents so the county program would be
extended to residents of the whole
County uh there's a small amount for new
training
software to support online climate
training available to all staff the
building retrofit study of
$200,000 is to be offset um by transfer
fir rate civilization the study will
provide a detailed costing plan and
business case for deep energy retrofits
to County owned building excluding
housing which will be reviewed in 2026
so that is what is included in the
budget package but there are two
retrofit studies and we inadvertently
mix the two up so we actually want to do
the better home the the building
retrofit study for the housing next year
and then the municipally owned ones the
following year so we're just going to
switch those around it does change some
of the numbers the value I think is 325
but there is some funding in the balance
comes from rate stabilization so similar
to the other one there's no impact on
the bottom line so we're just going to
make that
switch any questions on climate
energy summarizing climate and energy
the status quo operating a 7.58%
increase and the proposed additions are
23.18 moving on to corporate
facilities the corporate facilities is
IM Min admin cost for staff that support
all facilities excluding different Oaks
as well as the building related costs
for the courthouse and the Adel BR
Center revenues um we've adjusted the
rent Revenue to reflect the actual cost
recoveries for the courthouse uh lease
cost those have actually been coming
down because our costs have been coming
down but I have our first actual change
to the budget here I want to add
$155,000 in Revenue to it's not very big
to the rent Revenue because we have uh
decided to lease out 53 Zina and we'll
be receiving about $15,000 in Revenue
next
year and then the other Revenue includes
revenue from the public electric vehicle
charging
stations moving on to expenses uh there
are 13 full-time positions and one
part-time seasonal position within
facilities there's a big decrease in
admin in office uh this relates to the
building condition assessment and energy
audits that were completed in 2024 we do
the bcas every 5
years we do budget for them within
corporate facilities because it's easier
but when we actually expense them we
expense them to all the individual
buildings um other
highlights uh Consulting includes
$220,000 to address miscellaneous
building studies required to ensure the
longevity of our assets and as well as
$2,000 for the development of service
contracts there's been an increase in
service costs for the EV charging
stations of about
$155,000 and uh it communication
includes a work order software uh with
annual fee of
$155,000 and then we are anticipating a
decrease in vehicles and Equipment as we
shift towards electric
vehicles transfers we proposing $75,000
to come from the rate stabilization
Reserve just to mitigate some of the
increases and we do we are able to apply
small amount of development charges to
the debt on this
building moving to proposed additions
these equate to
$116,000 for
2025 there is a new position um it's in
the budget to start in March with
107,000 you can go to the next page on
for the project manager
$17,700 for salaries and benefits plus
an additional 4,500 in support cost for
year 1 and $22,000 thereafter with an
annualized cost of $134,000
and then the next is the asset and
maintenance management Annual fees uh
which I spoke about in engineering or
operations um same thing their cost
share though is only
$3,000 any questions on the proposed
additions in
facilities thanks Council way the uh the
project manager is that the one that
we're bringing on looking at housing or
is that another one in housing never
mind
then no other questions on these
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additions
okay moving to the capital asset
fund we see quite a dip in the capital
asset fund for corporate facilities over
the next few years before we start
building it up
again the prior year carry forward
includes uh parking lot at courthouse
for
$412,000 switch gears which is electrial
equipment for
$125,000 Windows for
2011 vehicle which we ordered in 2024
that hasn't arrived yet for 60 Grand and
then some um security work at this
building a 42
Grand moving to
contributions uh other revenue is funds
from Naran for the electric vehicle
charging station
uh which there was a report that went to
council a couple months ago I believe of
$325,000 we have um put in debt
financing to cover any work done to this
building I'm just going to pause there
for a second um in in terms of we have
debt financing in there this year and
next year for this building but we
probably won't we will not borrow until
the project is done what we will end up
doing is we will see how much we can
cash flow and then if we run into cash
flow issues then we will get intern term
borrowing which then we will just flip
into the actual
debenture um and then lastly transfers
from Reserve we have $300,000 coming
from rate
stabilization to um cover the balance of
the cost of the EV charging
stations moving on to Capital work
there's $2.5 Million worth of work plan
for 2025 with 1.375 being considered New
Capital
Investments uh future work plan will
change once we have a further
clarification on what work will be done
when for example we have carpet that is
due for replacement over the next couple
of years within this building and if
we're going to renovate this building
we're clearly not going to do that so
the the future Capital work plan will
likely change if we uh renovate this
building uh we have two parking lots
planned the north both the North and the
South parking lot at the courthouse in
2025 under buildings we have foundation
work uh is required to prevent future
fling funding Flooding at this building
we have some regular Heating and
ventilation air conditioning
Replacements
and are required at $43,000 as well as
updates to our building automation
system of $40,000 and windows of
110 due to the Heritage designation of
the courthouse the windows and exterior
doors are not replaceable
as such regular painting is required to
maintain these assets an amount of
$12,500 has been included to gaug a
consultant to assist with the
specifications in
2025 I think the total cost and Scott
maybe you remember is around 300 between
three and
$400,000 to do the actual painting
um questions
Phil Phil has his hand up
I do um I had a question about the ashal
paving so that's at the courthouse that
we as a county don't use anymore but we
still own it so we need to maintain it
correct um question number two would
this be hot ashalt
Paving and Scott is shaking his head yes
I I see him I I I can actually see that
um would we ever consider using recycled
ashalt to to do
that through you Warden we do use
recycled asphalt most of the asphalt
that we use we'll we'll spec a certain
composition of recycled material um in
some cases on our roads we do a full
like cold and place Recycling and those
types of um um things within a parking
lot very likely it'll be U Back to the
the previous one the mix of of new
materials with a certain um percentage
of uh recycled material so short answer
yes but um there's always more
details to go along with it if if I we
would not consider using 100% recycled
material for a for a parking
lot
um I suppose we could we haven't um
there's a there are concerns about
longevity with that type of work
depending on the material that you're
getting so again we've we've found that
there's a sweet spot and I forget what
the percentage is that we pursue but
somewhere in the neighborhood of at
least
20% um on a parking lot you may be able
to increase that more than what we you
would typically do on a roadway but um
full recycled is is not something that
we have done on a parking lot
no
okay anyone else
uh we also have two pickups that are
scheduled for replacement in 2025
similar to other divisions we do have
one that is being carried forward from
2024 and then under New Capital
Investments we have the renovations to
this building as well as the electric
vehicle charging
stations summarizing corporate
facilities the status quo operating is
13.07 when you add capital in that
becomes comes
27% with proposed additions it's
40% moving on to way
Services uh revenues are up
$2,000 uh user fees includes uh revenue
from residents for additional B tags uh
the other revenue is household hazardous
waste full producer responsibility for
designated materials not providing
adequate compensation to cover C's event
day costs we're getting about
$60,000 and then other Revenue also
includes
money from circular materials for Waste
Services guide and waste app and
$35,000 for the sale of
composters expenses are down
$100,000 that's mostly because um
similar to climate we have stuff in the
2024 budget that we had is new and this
year showing it under new in 2025 sorry
um relating to the household housers
waste mobile Depot as well they did do
some audits in uh
20204 um staff includes four full-time
positions um between six to eight
seasonal casual positions one Co-op
student and two summer
students other highlights in ad minut an
office includes $98,500 in promotions 22
,000 for Waste Audits and $122,000 for
postage Service delivery we have the
annual Autumn loose leaf collection and
processing for Orangeville and shelburn
at a budget of
$110,000 the actual costs for 2023 were
$13 and I haven't seen the cost yet come
in for
2024 um and then vehicles and Equipment
similar to other divisions who are
seeing small savings as they transition
to electric vehicles
so this is the one area where I actually
have a budget
addition uh report went to committee uh
late last year giving staff permission
to move forward with going to market for
the 2025 household hatress was Day
events the contract came in higher than
anticipated we budgeted $200,000 and the
um the lowest bidder is
$280,000 so we need to increase the
budget um in order for staff to be able
to award the
contract the additional $80,000 is the
same level of service we provided
previously the cost have just gone
up any questions or comments on
that I could propose that um when we add
that that we have half of that come from
reserves because it is a quite a big
increase so the impact is only 40 Grand
instead of 80
comment
anybody that sounds good doesn't
it okay uh moving on to
oh
pH can't see you so people have to tell
me when you have your hand up that's
good seems to be working quite well um
I'm wondering if instead of taking it
out of the rate stabilization Reserve we
look at a few of the small subsidy
program s um green bins comes to mind
rain barrels comes to mind couple other
things and and try to try to even it out
that way rather than keeping on taking
from
reserves uh through you Warden those
programs do not make they don't really
make
money okay
okay um
transfers we have $22,000 to offset the
cost of the waste audits coming from the
waste reserve and then we do uh we are
able to apply small amount of
development charges to offset the cost
of new green green Green bins based on
growth uh proposed additions there are a
couple additions proposed which are to
be funded from Reserve so the net
increase is
zero next slide under previously
committed we have the long-term Waste
Management strategy of
$100,000 which was last completed in
2018 the update will review the County's
progress and any setbacks to meeting its
waste diversion goals while reviewing
the path forward for the next five years
the work will be funded from the waste
Reserve new to 2025 which we actually
introduced last year um consultant
services to assist in the planning
approval for mobile or permanent
household hazardous wastey
$225,000 also to be funded from the
waste Reserve County staff are exploring
the components and options and
opportunities for Depot service and will
bring forward a recommendation to
council for consideration 2025 if
approved the consultant would assist in
preparation of the required components
of the approvals application to the
ministry of environment conservation and
parks are there any questions on
those was Services capital is very
minimal which limits their required fund
balances the amount of carry forward is
for the vehicle that we ordered in 20124
it hasn't arrived
yet um moving down to contributions the
only contribution is tax Lobby and it's
$13,000 and the only work planned for
2025 you can go down a couple slides on
you is um a
vehicle summarizing Waste Services the
start status quo operating is 3.28% when
you add in capital it becomes
3.3 and with the proposed changes it's
3.29 the largest
um I don't know what my note says I'll
just skip
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it okay moving on to County
forest uh revenues are primarily Timber
sales and a little bit for hunting and
event
permits County for has two positions in
one summer student uh position the
salaries and benefits are there's a
small decrease here similar to
operations in Fleet we did have an over
an overlap for the replacement of the
the forest manager last
year other highlights minut an office
includes onetime costs associated with
the promotion of the new operating plan
uh $7,900 and 2024 included a one-time
purchase of animal prooof trash
bins facilities includes 13
$1,100 um for snow clearing at some of
the
tracks moving to transfers at the end of
the year any surplus that we have within
the county Forest is transferred to the
reserve fund the value of the reserve
fund has declined significantly over the
last few
years so we're just applying a little
bit each year there's a small net
increase um sorry proposed
additions there's a small net increase
in 2025 with no no staff proposed until
2027 um new to 2025 is to attain the
certification through the sustainable
Forest initiative which will provide
tangible validation of sustainable
management practices and open doors to
New Opportunities such as the carbon
credit Market is
$7,000 and then in line with
recommendations from the recently
adopted Transportation master plan
develop an active Transportation master
plan to establish a detailed strategy
with input from local municipalities for
recommending additional local candidate
routes that support the network of
$100,000 to be funded by the reserves
from wind turbines this is a multi-
department project and I'm not sure that
it's actually going to land in County
forest but we've just dropped in there
for now and it is at this point likely
to be led by
planning um the capital asset fund we
had plann on depleting the capital asset
Fund in 2024 however with the delay of
the delivery of the vehicle uh we have a
little bit to carry
forward um the $660,000
capital and work includes the carryover
of the vehicle as well as um a small
amount for replacement of gates and
fencing summarizing County forest the
status quo operating is
8.47% when that you add in capital it
becomes
8.03 and with with proposed additions
the total increase is
10.56% any questions for County forest I
had a question in terms of the trail
because at one point in the um
description that talked about the person
um with the forest is also with the
trail and so there's no expenditures or
any budget items for the trail
uh we do have some maintenance money I
believe in operations and Fleet okay
yeah okay just it wasn't clear where all
whether that's going to all be one kind
of uh unit or
whether yeah
Scott uh through you warden so yeah the
the maintenance of the asset will occur
through operations and sort of the
philosophy and management of the
recreational element of it will be dealt
with through Forest okay
Phillip thank you through you I have a a
question about the sustainable Forest
initiative certification I mean it's
it's such a small amount um but and and
I understood this was to gain access to
the carbon credit Market um is this a
national Market an international market
um if it's National or even
International do we believe it's still
going to
exist um you know by the middle of
2025
Scott through you Warden uh great
question um all I can really offer on
this and I I have some notes here just
to keep track of things but so this is
through the sustainable Forest
initiative through the eastern Ontario
model Forest Group certification so it
will amongst other things afford um the
opportunity for resources it will
confirm to the public that we are in
fact managing our forests sustainably um
it will even open up to funding and
different funding models potentially the
one that that you spoke to but certainly
others um so there is more to it than
simply that that one piece but uh great
question anyone else
okay Amy is this the end of this uh
section I have two more slides okay so
just to
summarize the recap same slides we saw
at the beginning what the percentage in
increases are on the status quo for each
division and then the next slide shows
what the what the proposed
increases and that concludes this
one
questions see
minute break a five minute break so that
we can get through um Phillip you have a
question I I I do sorry to keep you from
your break um just um because everything
moved so
quickly um I I if I could just broadly
the capital work um piece there's a
significant amount of work far more than
we've usually done we generally don't
get
done what we want to anyways um I don't
know that it matters because it would
just get carried forward is that
correct uh pretty much are you talking
about um engineering or just
generally so this was from the very
beginning I think there's $91 Million
worth of capital work planned that's you
know almost twice as much as we usually
do and we don't ever do all that we
usually do yeah a large chunk of that is
the Operation Center the new Operation
Center of um just over 20 million and
then we do have additional projects
related that are Developer developer
funded related to the 109
realignment and that leads beautifully
into the next question because I
couldn't find this anywhere either are
you able to give a highlevel estimate of
what it's going to cost the tax levy to
add the new operations center and the
renovation to the edel Brock
Center
no I I can I can find out based on how
much we think we're going to borrow but
I haven't gotten into doing the analysis
in terms of how much it's going to cost
related to the ongoing operating
costs and and that's fine and I should
have asked you this beforehand but if
that's something I think we have another
budget meeting on the 30th um I I would
really appreciate seeing that because I
am concerned that we're going to saddle
future councils with a pretty hefty
increase simply to pay for these
things yeah so I it would be at least
from my standpoint very useful to know
what what that's going to mean to the
tax levy moving
forward good point Phil thank you for
bringing that up
last question if I may um the electric
Chargers that was I think that's that's
$625,000 um we were applying for a grant
is there offsetting Revenue in the
budget based on what we thought we'd get
for the grant or are we only going to
put that Revenue in if we get it which
another way of asking are we putting in
the Chargers regardless of if we get the
grant
uh we do have offsetting Revenue in the
budget and no we are not putting them in
if we don't get the grant thank you very
much councilor
Solomon uh thank you uh Madame Wen just
a silly end of this segment is uh we've
been promised a uh trade War by the uh
end of uh maybe the week after that or a
week after next um how um like as along
with Phil's Point um should we be doing
a whole lot with uh whether we know what
it that's going to be like um whether
our constituents have any money left
we've been kind of threatened that we
might become State I don't know what can
be done I don't know if nobody in this
room I'm sure can answer it and uh and I
certainly don't know either but I just
would maybe be cautious I'm
uh you know you know who you're dealing
with and you don't know how that's going
to turn out so I guess we have to go on
it like business as usual but just who
knows so thank you very
much thank you
Steve uh
Todd uh just quickly I think the
commentary by Phil was really good um in
terms of I know we don't know the number
but we do know what the impact could be
in 2026 because we saw I think it was
plus 10% to the taxpayers and then the
year after that is also um abnormally
High two right based based on that I
can't remember what that number was but
we do know that we're heading towards
double digits for the next two
years you're correct I do have um some
numbers but just for the debt um and
it's based on $20 million of debt for
the um operations Center in $6 million
here it it depends on how much we
actually end up borrowing but I can give
you the numbers that I've included in
the budget um for future
years just to pull it
out okay thank you Amy Let's uh take
that five minute break then and be back
at the table in five
help
e e
maybe just
I do like this new um setup with the
stuff around the table is
everybody comfortable with this rather
not Scott oh it's just
Scott well we can move him somewhere
else
[Laughter]
change your name
Todd okay folks we're now on the general
government services piece so in your uh
documents make sure you're on the right
category go ahead Amy
thank you I'm just waiting for Sonia to
bring up the uh slide
deck okay General government services
includes Council Office of the C
corporate services and people in equity
unfortunately this committee does have
the most
slides so starting off with Council and
Grant this status quo increase
is
33% and with proposed additions is
9.83% uh just some highlights really is
only the salaries and benefits has
decreased as we've reduced the preems by
$28,900 other highlights uh training and
conferences for Olive council is
$52,000 and then the membership fees for
western w
emo and fcm total $49,100
there are some proposed additions within
um Council council members have
previously proposed an increase to
contributions to the Food For Thought
grants of 40% or
$28,000 we are also proposing an
increase of $45,000 to the community
grant program for a total of
$140,000 and additional support to
Headwaters community in
action um for administration of the
county grant program of
$115,000 as per council's request hcia
did provide us with a proposed increase
for 2025 in future years the total
increase for 2025 was
$140,500 but due to other pressures we
did not include the total amount but did
include an increase of
$4,500 um and this is split between this
budget and community services and then
of of course there are further increases
planned for future
years councelor
ni yeah I just I just want to check I
understand the the additions the new
grants are going to give but back up to
the
um on the main page Service delivery
including grants that does include the
$50,000 we're giving to the food bank
that that was a commitment more than one
year was it was it not or is my
memory at fault here the add amount that
um the council proposed for the food
bank I've included in the $28,000 in the
Food For Thought grants on the proposed
additions it's included in that amount
there 28 28,000 I yeah so I thought we
made a commitment we decided to increase
I think from 40 to
50,000 or I can't remember the exact
amount but it worked out to 28% and we
thought that it was only fair that that
shelburn got that as
well okay I think I think I follow that
okay okay
thanks any other questions on the
proposed additions under
Council seeing none
okay um then summarizing them it's a 33%
increased status quo and
9.83% uh with the
additions moving on to the office of the
cioo um office of coo consists of
administration and Communications clerks
and Emergency Management and have a net
increase of
6.83% there are no proposed additions
for 2025 in the office of the
CAO uh Capital the only Department that
has capital is Emergency
Management and as you can see they
pretty much only have one thing
um uh so the the
um yeah the line goes up and down as we
require the capital asset fund balance
kind of goes up and down as we need the
money
moving into Administration and
Communications um you have to pardon my
short forms some of some Department
names are too long so I just kind of
shortened it to admin and
Communications in the package you will
see that in many Communications did
include Revenue when I was putting
together the slide deck I realized that
the uh Revenue actually belongs under
the clerk's
department and so we I made the change
on these slides the total difference is
$1,750 so admin and communication does
consist of four full-time employees and
the big increase in 2025 is because we
did add a position in
2024 in terms of highlights we are
including Community engagement training
for all staff uh that are involved with
public consultation at a cost of
$77,000 and we have Consulting for
ongoing strategic plan implementation
work of $60,000 which we propose to come
from Reserves
which is the transfers on the next page
and then since there's nothing new
summarizing the status quote budget is
increase at 9% any questions on admin
and
Communications moving on to clerks um
they have a little bit of Revenue they
have a little bit of revenue for parking
tickets and then POA cost recovery um we
do provide phone and internet services
and they just um pay us a cost for that
on the expense side they do have a small
increase of $115,000 or 3% and there are
three staff within that
division other highlights it and
Communications uh the ESB annual
licensing fee is $336,600 and then
internal Services recover it is just an
allocation that we do between different
divisions to make sure we're capturing
the full costs um within the other
divisions typically we only do them
between divisions that receive subsidy
and then of course I have um included a
small amount coming from the rate
stabilization Reserve to to offset the
big jump as a result of the
Ebe and summarizing Clerk's Department
status quo is
5.32% Emergency
Management they have one full-time staff
and uh a small portion for the Emergency
Management backup
position they have a net decrease in
expenses 2024 included an amount to uh
relocate the emergency Operation
Center um as well as a small amount
towards the resiliency Hub
planning the admin office also includes
training a $1,500 increase and
photography and videography of
$2,000 Service delivery includes $22,000
for emergency exercises and public
education and $10,000 for emergency
prepared preparedness kits and then
$36,800 for the 911
contract transfers um we have an annual
contribution to the emergency Municipal
emergency redness reserve and uh 2024 we
did include an amount coming from
reserve for the relocation of the
emergency Operation Center
uh the capital asset fund you can see at
the bottom line it increases over the
next few years as we're setting IDE
money for future
Replacements contributions we're hoping
to get some uh funding for the
resiliency Hub of $50,000 and then we
will be pulling 25,000 from the rate
stabilization as it's
new um we have one project planned for
2025 it is joint project with climate
and energy and I believe facilities the
outdoor Community resilience Hub of
$100,000 will serve as an important
piece of infrastructure that will offer
a gathering space for community members
to connect access resources and
strengthen climate resilience featuring
sheltered seating educational signage
and climate adaptive Landscaping The Hub
will support workshops and events
focused on emergency preparedness and
local
collaboration any question
questions there are no proposed
additions summarizing Emergency
Management they're up 3.98% and with
capital it's
3.79 summarizing the office of the CEO
department just the same slide that we
saw
earlier moving on to Corporate
Services you moving too fast Corporate
Services consist of three div um four
divisions technically it Finance
corporate finance and procurement they
have a status quo increase of
1.95% you can be on the next
slide and the next
one with proposed increases we jump to
12.06% sorry Todd go ahead I was just
curious the um the setup that we have in
terms of how the grid is done I know
that our CIO is the acting director of
corporate services really has been for
quite some time is that are we replacing
that and if we're not um is that money
in the budget and if it is should it be
or are we just going to allocate it
differently but the grid still says that
we have the position but I mean I
haven't been with the county for a long
time but I I haven't seen I don't I
don't recall who had it and it feels
like it's been a long time
for you Warden Herer uh it's a great
question councelor Taylor no that
position has not been filled for quite
some time uh I think if you note in one
of the objectives for 2025 for um the
office of the CAO is to take a look at
the senior management structure and to
make some decisions on how we might like
to move forward so um there is funding
in there now and I would suggest that
when we have that conversation later in
the year we will likely reallocate it
but I don't think it would something be
something that we would completely
delete Capital the only Department that
has uh capital is
it um the tax that be here remains
relatively constant as the capital fund
balance does go up and down from year to
year god
sakes um it
uh revenues are down
$45,000 uh essentially the other
revenues are reallocation of cost to
other divisions in 2024 included an
allocation of Staff time towards the
website project which is now
done and the government transfer is it
contracts with the lower tiers including
GIS and support that they
provide um expenses are down
$24,000 um they have 10 full-time
positions and two student positions the
internal Services recovered is as I said
earlier is an allocation of cost to
other divisions in
2024 we added an IT Tech position to
support different Oaks the increase in
internal Services recovered is an
allocation of the cost associated with a
new position to different
Oaks despite the added position in 2024
salaries and benefits have a reasonable
increase as they did have additional
staff in 2024 to to support the website
project other highlights Consulting fees
include a review of the current phone
system graphic design support and other
services to ensure the Integrity of the
it infrastructure of
59,000 professional fees training and
development of staff is over
$80,000 and then they have a small
amount for legal fees to support the
review of
contracts within Service delivery um
primarily the services is to support the
gis at $2 29,6
which includes M&R air photos in 2025
which are updated every 3 years of
$6,000 and the balance is just work done
through agreements with others and is
offset by contributions from
others councelor Garrett just on GIS I
think do we have one GIS person
currently yeah and I think is where the
the plan is to add somebody in 2026
27 we actually sorry we have one GIS and
then we do have a one GIS summer student
okay and yeah the plan is to add
somebody I believe in 2027 oh okay yeah
I was just wondering with all the stuff
that Mr Burns has proposed all the
additional software I think that they're
potentially uh GIS heavy right some of
those the studies and the the softwares
I was just wondering if we need to
consider adding that GIS person
earlier um you know maybe not 2025 but
just more of a just like to get an OP we
seem pretty light on GIS staff is is all
I was thinking for the size of the
organization through you Warden um it
it's a great observation councelor
Garrett certainly additional uh GIS
resources would be valuable and uh I
think something that we would would
really like to add in the future um just
in terms of all of the additional
Staffing positions we did go through a
very robust uh prioritization process at
the senior management level to determine
which positions to include in 2025 and
um that one didn't quite make the cut
but um as we go through and do another
evaluation when we move into 2026 we
certainly look at them all again and
they could get reprioritized at that
time especially as you note there is
this move to add additional software as
we're going forward okay thank you
um and then it and
Communications it includes annual
software fees and subscriptions
including our Microsoft Microsoft
licensing for the entire organization of
just over
$500,000 website hosting and maintenance
of $39,000 software security of 334,000
and Hardware maintenance of just over
$78,000 um we do have $100,000 coming
from the rate stabilization Reserve to
to migrate fluctuations and it related
costs we do have a number of contracts
um that Renew at different times so we
have some that renew annually some that
renew every two years some that renew
every 3 years every four years so just
to mitigate those increases we often
apply an amount from reserves just to
mitigate the ups and
downs in relation to proposed additions
the net increase is
$37,000 um there's two there in 2025
the to conduct a comprehensive Telecom
System review to ensure the robust
robustness security adaptive
adaptability and cost efficiency at
$20,000 and to conduct a tabletop cyber
security exercise to prepare our team to
effectively respond to potential cyber
threats of
$117,000 uh moving on to Capital is
there any questions on the proposed
additions for it
straightforward um the capital asset
fund is one of I think only two that it
will be going into a negative in it um
this is mainly due to the increase we've
been seeing in the prices and as we add
more staff we certainly need more
equipment um there's a 6.6% increase on
the capital Levy where I'm trying not to
increase it too much um from year to
year the balance forward is is a small
Surplus it's just um a few small items
that we haven't purchased
yet other Revenue includes an allocation
from operating for new staff and then
transfer from Reserve is similar um
transfer from one Department that
receive
subsidy in terms of the capital work
plan they have $666,000 worth of work
planned all of their stuff falls under
equipment and machinery
there's updates of the phone system at
VAR various locations of
$102,000 and user devices of
$200,000 this includes laptops desktops
iPads and cell phones um I just want to
make a note on the cell phones prior to
2025 the cell phone replacement was
included in operating budgets because of
the overall value of the all of the cell
phones that we own we decided that we
should be capitalizing that so we've
moved that into the capital budget and
removed it from the operating
um and user devices also includes
$30,000 for the replacement of a plotter
it infrastructure is 364,000 includes
Network switches wireless access points
and battery backups it also includes
$200,000 for server and storage
replacement summarizing it the status
quo operating is only 96% and with
capital it's 1.78% and then with the
proposed additions it's 3.2% overall any
question questions on
it okay moving on to
finance we
have next slide we have 10 full-time
positions and currently one contract
position 2025 does include a full year
of the new financial analyst position
addit in
2024 admin in office includes Consulting
update as required to the asset
management plan we have 40,
in there and as well as $50,000 from the
for the development charge background
study both of which will be offset by
reserves and then in it and
communication our largest expense
relates to the annual fees and
maintenance of our existing software of
$53,000 transfers as I stated to the
asset management plan and the
development charge background study we
will have coming from the rate
stabilization ideally the development
charge background study should be funded
from the development charge um Reserve
fund but my study balance is currently
in a negative so which is why I'm taking
it from rate
stabilization um there's only two
divisions that have digital mod
modernization this year uh finance and
people in
equity so we have three projects on the
go we are in the final stages of
implementing our new financial
information system business Central um
the money does include backfilling of a
position to support the implementation
and the total costs are estimated at
$23,000 in
2025 we are also implementing the new
asset maintenance uh management system
that will support all divisions and
we're just capturing the implementation
costs within finance and that's
$190,000 and then a new version of our
existing uh budgeting software will be
required to support the changes in
business Central to allow for pop proper
integration between the systems and
we've budgeted $100,000 for that all
these projects are being it through
reserves that we've previously set aside
for digital modernization
projects proposed additions are um
request is
$171,000 for
2025 um we are proposing a new
accounting manager and actually we
already have this position as a contract
employee when we moved into the
implementation of the financial software
we decided to back fill our Deputy
Treasurer and we so that she could focus
on the implementation of the project and
we created this new accounting position
who supports the day-to-day and the
Staffing and he the positions become
integral and what we found with the
deputy Treasurer is she never actually
let go a lot of her duties just because
there's too much work to do so without
the added position we're going to be in
trouble um and then the on the
previously committed is the is the um
new software our new Financial software
the annual fees are approximately
$110,000 and because we're phasing it in
it's $35,000 for 20125 and then again
the same software that we spoke to in
operations our asset and maintenance
management the annual fees for uh
Finance is
$1,700 any questions on
those so the
status oh pH
has has a
question yeah yes thank you and and it
it's about the proposed uh addition of
staff and and this comes from ignorance
and sort of what the CAO mentioned on
Monday about how um the county is a
different animal than than local tier I
understand what the finance department
does at the town of Grand
Valley with collecting property taxes
paying stuff um I
am because the county doesn't collect
those right other than sending out
remittances to um the local tiers I'm
less familiar with what they do so if
Amy or someone could provide maybe a
general overview of of sort of the major
aspects of the um find or the accounting
Division and then why there's an extra
person required
sure um we do over 200 different reports
to the ministry um throughout the year
to various Ministries actually I think
there's probably seven or eight
different Ministries so this position
actually helps supporting verifying the
information and ensuring that our
financial analysts have um done them
correctly um we process
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over I don't remember the number of we
we process it's in the budget bet
document we process quite a few um
invoices each week uh probably five or
600 invoices every week we're
processing um our division also includes
payroll we only have two people within
payroll and that's a stretch uh what
else do we do the main point is
reporting and then doing all the
financial reporting and the budgeting
here to
council and tax policy and Investments
and insurance
okay so the status quo budget for
finance is 5.17 and the total with the
additions it's 21.8
3% keep
going you went the wrong way sorry
okay Corporate Finance so Corporate
Finance Falls within Finance but it's
separate um because a lot of that the
things that are within Corporate Finance
are more corporate in nature and
specific to finance where it's Finance
is really focused on the day-to-day so
in here we have the Investments and the
insurance and stuff like that um in
terms of Revenue the taxes included um
taxation includes supplemental levels
levies payments and lose net of tax
writeoffs all of which are an estimate
and um but we do have a reserve we can
draw from if we are our estimate is off
investment income will continue to
decrease as we've seen the interest
rates go down and then the government
transfers includes a subsidy for court
security uh the net decrease in expenses
is
$335,000 which is mainly because um the
next slide on you the vacancy savings we
actually increased that from 7 let me go
back from 750 to a mill ion
do uh to better reflect the actual it's
approximately 2.2% we haven't run the
numbers but I think I spoke to you in
December that at the end of September of
this year we were just over $900,000 in
savings Administration and office
includes uh just over a million dollars
for Assessment Services through impact
we make a payment to the town of
Orangeville for Courthouse security of
$125,000 and our liability insurance
um is included in here as well as an
amount to cover any insurance costs that
are below our deductible um that all
adds up to
$178,000
transfers um you may recall a couple
years ago we talked about um applying
rate stabilization thank you to the just
the bottom line of the budget we
captured in here we had proposed it to
be
$750,000 in 2025 but um because of the
increase in the budget and also because
the value of the rate stabilization is
quite large we felt that we could leave
it at a million
dollars um so overall the net
um decrease technically is 84,000 or
4.13% any questions on Corporate
Finance okay
procurement um procurement has three
full-time staff
uh admin and office includes Consulting
fees to assist in the development of new
procurement templates of $55,000 legal
fees of
3,000 and we shifted the training and
development costs of the director of
corporate services from other divisions
into those this into
procurement um overall the net increase
is
5.35% any questions on
procurement pretty simple um again a
summary the corporate services increase
by um Department status quo the net is
1.95% and then with the proposed
additions it's
12.06% moving on to people in
equity so we're presenting people in
equity differently this year we split
out to five different divisions
including people in equity admin Human
Resources Equity Learning and
Development and health and safety this
department does look a little wonky as
you will see some divisions are way up
and others are way down the division is
very the department actually is very
much uh Project based so all we're
simply doing is Shifting um projects
from one division to another there are
two main drivers to the 11.85% increase
uh one is staff that we added in 2024
and then the second is a decrease in the
health and safety
revenues in terms of um proposed
additions the increase now becomes
12.17% there's no capital in people in
equity people in equity
admin um they have three full-time
positions there's been a lot of recent
retirements of long-term staff that have
resulted in an increase in our
post-retirement benefits of
$28,000 we're also seeing an increase in
our non-union wsib claim costs so we've
increased that to reflect actual but
those are offset by transfer from our
Reserve
fund the increase is uh as I said
earlier we added a new position within
this division which is leading to the
increase
here other highlights admin includes
excess Indemnity and occupational
accident Insurance of
$136,000 which are both offset by the WB
Reserve fund long Service Awards and
staff events are 25,000 and Consulting
includes
34,000 including a small amount for data
management policy and framework
development of
4,000 and then in Services recovered is
just an allocation from other
divisions transfers from wsib Reserve
are um put in to offset the costs of
claim and insurance cost and I just
wanted to note here that it will
actually end up being less because we
did have an excess Indemnity insurance
um policy that we decide not to renew
based on recommendation from our
Actuarial study Consultants because the
value of our wsib Reserve fund is
healthy enough that we'll be able we
don't we don't need that insurance
um for proposed additions the net is
zero um we've included the non-union
wage market review and is proposed being
offset by the rate uh the rate
stabilization Reserve because it's a
onetime
thing and then the financial summary the
status quo and the proposed um with the
proposed increases is 30.9 7% increase
any questions on the people in equity
admin
um just ever so quickly I appreciate the
way that was described and certainly
we've been over this I'm just curious on
those positions that we've added
recently specifically the investigator
um I think a lot of us were curious how
that was going to go it it would be
great if over time we had discussions
about how that's going and like a little
progress report and was it a investment
or not and if I could um that it would
be the same comment I would have about
procurement as well um certainly don't
doubt that good works are being done
there by any stretch but it would be
great to understand um what is the
savings and um you know what value are
they bringing longer term and just be
great outside of this so it's maybe not
a budget question but certainly
understand that both departments are
doing great great work but would love to
have a few details and just a check in
at some point and uh appreciate what
what the numbers
are thanks
Todd Phil apparently you're
online and would like to answer a ask a
question yeah I can't answer my question
but I will ask
it um and it's about the wage market
review and earlier Rohan said we'
committed
doing it every four years I I just want
to make sure because I couldn't remember
if we did it in 21 22 so I'm assuming we
did it in 21 the last
time
affirmative easy
peasy okay moving on to Human Resources
oh hang on we have one more question
Philip's question just me so that that
market review that you have those those
findings would be not for this Council
correct like we would we' Implement at a
later date because there's really
there's two things there's there's staff
and then there's there's Council so
you're going to do do both in
2025 so be 2026 well so I'm curious I'm
curious when you're going to implement
and I guess what year so it's 2025
you're going to do it and then you
implement post this Council yeah through
you chair so yes uh the not what we're
talking about is the non-union wage
market review and so um the review would
take part in happen in 2025 and we would
look to implement in
2026 you are going to do one for Council
though too
right go ahead through you Warden uh
there is uh one done for council at the
end of every term of council for
implementation in the next
term and that doesn't come in 2025 it
comes in 2026 correct thank you
okay Human
Resources okay Human Resources has six
full-time positions and one
student highlights include um legal fees
of
$65,000 they have $155,000 included for
specialized recruitment advertising to
Target under Service Groups and then um
internal service is recovered they do
have additional Staffing costs um
they're directly that directly support
Duff
NOS digital modernization this is the
other division that has digital
modernization implementation of a human
resource information system is estimated
$350,000 work on this project began in
2020 2024 with final product selection
expected in early 2025 with
implementation to
follow the $350,000 is an estimate and
it is possible May way may require more
funds if that is the case we will
present bring a report to Council of
course um and as part of the digital
modernization project costs associated
with this project will be offset by
reserves set aside specifically for
these
items uh summarizing HR status quo is
2.49% the digital projects of course
have no
impact um but there will be impacts in
future years when we bring the the um
annual fees on so they're yeah it's
2.49% moving on to
equity there are two full-time staff in
equity the one position was added in
2024 hence the large increase to
salaries and
benefits highlights corporate training
includes $20,000 for the balance owing
for the anti-racism training which began
in 2024 which will be offset by transfer
from Reserve we have $40,000 for
Keynotes for days of significant
2 S
lgbtq Plus people leader training
$4,000 indigenous education for people
leaders of
35,000 and then we have Consulting fees
including which includes 15,000 to
support policy
development and then within Service
delivery uh We've included $330,000 for
Community discussion
series uh transfer shows the mount from
anti-racism
uh I just had a question about uh the
training so so many of these training
programs have been common in workplaces
for 10 15 years or so um I'm not sure
how long they've been rolled out here at
the county but um is there any attempt
to do any evaluation of the programming
in terms of uh any impact they're having
with staff on their work or on the
morale like positive or negative is are
we are we doing an evaluation on these
these trainings and and the impact that
they're
having
ran uh through you Warden um short
answer uh around um so the mandatory
trainings uh that we done so far for
people leaders uh we we do do an
evaluation um in in terms of uh yeah so
we do do an evaluation for the mandatory
trainings um in the um at last council
meeting uh we had brought forward uh a
report um just doing sort of INE Equity
uh people in equity Department status
update and there was a a section in that
report that really spoke to evaluation
um and so and the results of those
evaluation uh coming from from staff um
the around the trainings that we do that
are um are voluntary uh we are not doing
um evaluations for those that uh that
aren't voluntary uh but it would be easy
easy enough to do um an evaluation for
those trainings that are not mandatory
um for for staff and so
um within the broader sort of picture of
the of the equity strategy um was noted
from staff that uh the provision of a
whole host of trainings uh related to
equity psychological safety inclusion um
so we're trying to be responsive to
those uh identified um uh requirements
and requests from
staff are you okay with that
James yeah thank
you Phil I understand you have a
question uh thank you I wondering if we
could just go back to uh the recruitment
advertising that was mentioned briefly
and if Rohan could give um sort of a
description of that I miss from what I
understood well no how about I just ask
for what that's going to be um and out
of
curiosity um uh through you uh Warden uh
great question uh so um in addition to
sort of the traditional sort of Legacy
websites that we use to to post all of
our external postings uh when we are
posting externally for jobs uh we also
um have uh work we're working with a
about three um sort of community uh
Community specific job boards uh and
those are around persons with
disabilities uh indigenous um uh
indigenous Community uh and the 2s lgbtq
plus community and so these are
organizations that cater directly
towards those particular communities and
so we also post all of our external jobs
to those communities to try to enhance
um uh to to have a more robust uh pool
of recruits uh for all of our job
postings you have more questions Phil no
no just to summarize so this is
basically a way of just getting word out
as as far as possible to find qualified
candidates affirmative yes on
okay okay uh the summary for Equity um
status quote increase is 7.19% with no
proposed additions until
2027 health and
safety government transfers is the money
that we get from lower tiers we now only
have three utilizing the county health
and safety
Services um plus we had a change in the
funding model as a result at in revenues
from the lower
tiers expenses are down
$133,000
um this division includes one full-time
position and we reduce the
Staffing um because we removed a student
position that we just haven't been
filling service delivery includes costs
for training provided to other divisions
or organizations and there's 100% offset
by other Revenue
traditionally we uh offset approximately
50% of the health and safety costs from
the wsib reserve fund so we have
continued to do
that proposed additions uh some small
additions here new health and wellness
program to Pro promote employee wellness
and well-being of
$2,500 and a series of events to promote
health and safety work week of
$4,000 summarizing health and safety the
status quo increase shows 100% because
previously it was not on the tax levy
with approximately half coming from the
de IB reserve and half from others that
use the service uh this is one we have
one of the largest increases in people
in
equity any questions on that
division moving to learning and
organizational
development this division has only one
employee one position
some highlights corporate training
includes Conflict Management resolution
train the trainer for duffen Oaks staff
$20,000 a leadershop workshop series of
$10,000 and training to build capacity
of management to support mental health
in the workplace is 7 Consulting fees
include development of a leadership core
competency identified in the equity
audit of
$60,000 transfers we are pulling from
the rate stabilization for the different
Oaks train the trainer at $220,000 and
then the development of the leadership
car competencies because it's the
onetime cost of
$6,000 uh
summary the sizeus quot increases down
8.55 because we've shifted costs to
other
divisions any questions on Learning and
Development councelor Mills thank you
madam this may not be the the
place to ask but but it it's why I'm
going to ask how how do we budget for um
for conferences for staff and and in
particular senior staff that the reason
I'm asking I've noticed over the last
few years that you know Duff's
representation at Roma Amo I I suspect
fcm is the same when it comes to our
senior staff is pretty light as compared
to a lot of other counties and and I'm
just wondering if if there's a gap there
in the budget and and we're just not
allocating enough money for our senior
staff to take advantage of these who am
I sending this one
to D you Warden uh the the amount for
conferences for senior staff is included
in their individual budgets under
conferences and um
certainly there likely is some room in
those budgets for staff to attend Amo
and and fcm and some of those other uh
broader conferences um that's a
discussion we can have there just hasn't
been I don't think um
the need the need to do so but I I do
hear your point about there being
additional representation from other
counties and that's definitely something
we can look
at okay um the next slides are just
summarizing the status quo and the um
proposed increases for
uh people in equity any so there's no
more questions that concludes ggs
thank you
Amy so are we breaking for a dinner
break here yeah okay and we'll return
back to the table
at 6:30
6:30 6:30
okay and the meal is I think it's in the
kitchen straight down the hall okay all
right
e e
okay folks we'll uh come back to order
and uh Amy is going to continue the Amy
show and I see Raj is in the hot seat uh
next so uh we'll continue on with
Community Development and
Tourism thank you we'll just wait uh to
get the presentation
up okay we're moving into Community
Development and Tourism
I don't have any questions on
this not
yet just having some technical
difficulties there we go
no e
okay development tourism has four
divisions uh you can go to the next
slide building shows as zero because
there's no Reliance on the tax levy
combined the Departments are up 4.8%
status
quo and with proposed additions it's
5.93%
the museum does propose some changes but
the uh the revenue and the expense is n
to zero so it looks like there's no
increase
Capital so similar to the other ones you
see the orange line which is the value
of the capital asset fund going up and
down and the blue line Remains the
Same and Museum and building both have
capital okay moving on on to Building
Services let's start with revenues um an
amendment was made to our current fee
schedule that will be in effect January
1st the Amendments capture permit fees
for new items added to the building code
increase fees for non-conforming permits
and Enforcement cases and to provide
further Clarity where there was room for
misinterpretation even with all that it
is still difficult to project what the
actual activity will
be um
so the permit revenues do in have a
small increase and we did remove
amran the other revenue is a recovery
from The Institute for National disaster
for the hurricane clip
program moving on to expenses expenses
are up 38,000 or
1.87% salaries and benefits include 10
full-time staff one contract and one
summer student
position other highlights it
communication includes the annual fee of
about $115,000 for City
View vehicles and Equipment they will
see a savings as they've shifted to
electric vehicles and then internal
Services used is a lot of those
recovered amounts that we've pulled in
from other
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divisions bill you have a
question I am yes thank you through you
Warden um the difference
between um revenues and expenses is
massive now I understand that it doesn't
directly impact the levy but it is
eventually going to impact um fees and I
I'm I don't remember it being that big
Amy could you and I don't know this
isn't your department um but could you
speak to when the Gap got so big and is
it simply a and and why if possible
yeah uh through you Warden um we added a
few more staff the last few years
um two or three or maybe even I think
three three in the last few years which
has pushed it up one of them is a
contract position that is due to end
next year I believe the
2-year um contract does that answer your
question yeah yeah it doesn't seem to
count
for like they're double right expenses I
think are double revenues even
more yeah the other piece too like I
said earlier the the actual revenues are
really really hard to estimate so we
kind of go off of what we think they'll
be what they've been in the past year or
two um and nine times out a 10 it always
ends up being more than what we budget
so we end up put either taking less out
of the reserve or even putting money
into the reserve
fund um but to and I don't mean to
belabor the point I don't think you have
a year where you're where you're H
projecting to cover costs up to 2028 if
I look that that chart
correctly yeah I think if I think if you
do look out to 2028 we will not have
enough money in the reserve
fund okay
okay transfers we were talking about um
the sorry through you Warden um uh just
to address councelor wrench's question
there um we are expecting to have lower
permit numbers therefore there would be
lower Revenue however we will see this
rise again as you can take a look at
that graph you will see dips and Es and
flows um and this is predicted um
through the per fee study that we have
undertaken so um it will eventually go
up it's and like Amy mentioned it's it's
sort of hard to predict at this point
what exactly we're going to be seeing in
terms of permit numbers but um I just
wanted to add that as a point of
clarification okay we are proposed well
weit because it balances out to zero we
have $1.2 million coming from the
reserve fund in
2025 and in summary because there's no
impact on the levy it's 0% increase for
building any other questions for
building okay moving on to the Museum of
defn uh user fees include programs and
tours Admissions and membership revenues
government transfer includes a onetime
or the grant that we receive annually
which honestly I don't think it's ever
changed
since I started at the county um other
Revenue includes an increase in
Consignment Sales to better reflect what
are actual has been and an increase in
fundraising Revenue to support
interactive exhibits to
$38,000 on the expense side it's up
6.34% the museum includes seven
full-time positions one part-time
position and four student
interns highlights uh supplies and
Exhibits have increased to
$48,500 to allow for more interactive
program Pro programming partially offset
by additional fundraising revenues
programming costs um are $19,500
it and Communications we have software
licensing fees have increased to
17,300 and website hosting and
maintenance costs have increased to
11,500 facilities include snow clearing
of 15,800 which decreased by nearly half
we have a small decrease in cleaning
cost to
44,000 um and then general maintenance
has a small increase to
$75,000 and the internal Services
recovered is just an allocation of
support costs primarily from the
facility
staff transfers a small amount is
included to offset operating cost each
year $88,000 from the museum trust any
excess any excess fundraising or
donation Revenue received is transferred
back to the museum
trust there are are a couple of proposed
additions The Net Zero uh the net to
zero uh they're looking at adding
additional events to increased visitor
engagement specifically for Halloween
and family day of
$1,000 there's a new grounds maintenance
program to allow for natural asset
management of
4,000 and lastly new Revenue generating
opportunities resulting in a rise in
bookings and revenue for space rentals
of 5,000 I just want to touch based on
the natural Asset Management you're
going to see that in a number of
buildings it's something new that our
facility department has is rolling out
we found that we've been neglecting our
trees and it's just um money to go in
prune trees and ensure that they they're
all
good um moving on to the capital asset
fund looking at the bottom line You'll
see how the capital asset fund decreases
over the next few years this is due to
the value of the
work over the next little bit next slide
uh the prior your carry forward
$228,000 includes um some electrical
work
of
$150,000 Museum window Windows of 20
exterior doors of 242 and museum water
tank heater of $4,000 which I think it's
been carried for it a couple years we
won't replace it until it really needs
it and then the balance is just savings
on other
projects uh tax L requirements remain
unchanged between 24 and
25 um moving to Capital
Work Land improvements we have parking
lot um is due for replacement of
$150,000 buildings we have updates to
the fire alarm panel Transformer and
switch gears of
31,000 window replacements a 20 and a
carryover from
2024 um to make the front doors more
accessible of
26,000 to summarize the museum status
quo operating is 5. 59% when you add in
capital it's 5.25 and then with um
additions it's still 5.25 any questions
for
Museum moving on to land use planning
user fees are planning fees and
government transfer is actually funding
from the lower tiers for the services we
provide
them on the expense side it's up 36,000
or 6.77%
they are there are three full-time
positions within this
division other highlights uh we have
legal fees of $10,000 to address any
matters related to the Ontario land
tribunal due to provincial planning
statement Conformity and disputes
Consulting includes 15,000 for asset
mapping infrastructure and servicing
needs 10,000 for boundary expansion and
agricultural assessments 10,000 related
to official plan Amendment approvals for
intensification of conformity and
$20,000 for settlement boundary
assessments uh we are we've included a
small amount from the rate stabilization
just to mitigate um ongoing
increases to summarize planning the net
increas is 5.3% any questions on
planning moving along to Economic
Development other Revenue includes uh
$10,000 of
anti $10,000 for selling ad spaces and
paid content in the 2025 explore Duff
guide the expenses are actually down
47,000 because TW last year included the
um strap the economic development
strategic plan there are two full-time
positions within this
division other highlights in admitted
office um hosting indust industry
Roundtable meetings we have 5,000 set
aside Consulting fees for sector plans
and strategies of 20,000 and explore
duffing guide of 60 Grand Service
delivery includes $40,000 for the small
business Enterprise Center two community
events of $20,000 tourism development of
20 and sector development projects for
another
20 it and communication includes website
hosting and maintenance of 15,000 as
well as software Annual fees for
customer relationship management
software of $10,000
proposed additions in 2025 net to
$25,000 the development of a community
Improvement plan to support investment
the planning act does allow
municipalities to designate Community
Improvement project areas to offer
financial and non-financial incentives
to create employment opportunities and
amenities we are proposing $80,000 for
this project come from the rate
stabilization reserve and then the
development implementation of the
investment attraction program in cons
consultation with local municipalities
to promote different to investors and
site selectors domestic and
international by highlighting the
competitive advantage of locating and
starting a business here we have $25,000
in the budget any questions on
those
just councilor Garrett just could you go
back one just thinking of the the
investment attraction program
is that is that enough like it's it I
see how you could get through that uh
amount of money very
quickly um and I think it's a it's it's
an important piece for economic
development so just curious Raj can you
explain this was supposed to have
happened this fall and it it
wasn't or is it the same
thing through you uh uh Warden um
councelor Garretts you do raise a a good
Point um but maybe I'll just clarify
what what the warden is referring to
that was um our investment uh attraction
day um and that has been pushed to
Spring of 2025 so that's completely
different it's a separate line item but
what the investment attraction program
really speaks to um and if I can just
add a little bit of detail here um we
were one of 10 municipalities that were
selected to go um and Pitch to tourism
development site selectors uh this year
so it was it was an amazing experience
um and we were one of two rural
municipalities that went and presented a
different County um to to different
tourism developers one of them being
hawkley Valley um they were there along
with the Marriott and uh Hilton so in
order for us to continue to do that type
of work um you're absolutely right
councelor Garretts 25,000 is is a a drop
in the bucket but um given the fact that
our overall budget came in at 5% I was
trying to be conservative when coming up
with that number um but we have
developed um an Investors Guide which
has done fairly well we've actually won
two Awards um for the Investors Guide so
we're well on our way but I mean if if
it Council so wishes to give me more
money I don't say no to that um but
25,000 does get us started at least
um if you notice in the 2020 go back
slide 2627 we are slowly increasing that
amount under a new 2025 expense for the
investment attration
program to summarize Economic
Development the stus quote operating is
3.49% and with the proposed additions
it's
8.33 and then again the last two slides
are just summarizing the status quo and
the proposed increases
any further
questions you got off lightly garage
maybe Council Garrett yeah maybe while
we're waiting we we could have a
discussion at the council level if we
want to increase that uh at this point
the the 25,000 for the the
implementation plan I I think personally
I think uh I would like to see an amount
that uh the department can do a good job
I appreciate uh trying to save money but
I I think
it's uh it's important I think it's
important so I'd like to know I guess if
that's if the real number is is 50 and
and where we go from here so I don't
know if you've got a
number in
Mind through you Warden do you want me
to go back to where Brenda okay
excellent um the the real number that
ultimately we came up with
um when we were developing the
investment attraction strategy itself
was closer to 880,000
um but like I said I was trying to be
conservative given the fact that our our
overall budget uh did come in at 5%
so yeah I think it personally I I'd like
to see it go up I don't know to what
level I think I still need to to think
about that if anyone else has a
suggestion um happy to hear it but I I
do think it's it's an
important tool for all the
municipalities and and duffen uh to have
so councelor Taylor did you have a
comment the only thing I was going to
say is it's similar to what you were
saying Chris which is why I prom
prompted you is uh sometimes when you
spend money um a little bit is a waste
it's a joke it doesn't go far it doesn't
do what it's intended um but I I'm not
from Amar enough with what we're trying
to accomplish and even to say the 80
grand I don't know what that is so it's
hard to make an interpretation at this
point but uh I don't know where we go
with it because I don't I don't feel
like I don't have the information but it
feels like it's just not enough to
sustain a a good
program councelor guardhouse through
Warden um I would make this suggesting
that we put that on the list of
considerations right now right now that
we' come back to it and whether we want
want to increase it or keeps Tas quo but
we'll we'll think about it and when it
comes back we'll have the opportunity to
to consider it because it is points are
taken that have been
made okay last last piece Brenda now
you're in the hot
seat okay Health and Human
Services consists of community services
stuff Oaks paramedics and public health
so we're going to start with Community
Services there are currently three
divisions within Community Services with
the status quo decrease of0
41% moving to the increased includ the
proposed addition slide we add a new
division that we're calling housing
strategy which leaves us at 12.3% 12.36%
increase Community Services capital
similar to all the other ones the
capital asset fund does go up and down
as the value of work um goes up and
down Capital includes both housing and u
m Mel Burnside
Village early years in child
care on the revenue side we've actually
seen a small a reduction in our regular
Child Care funding of 2.8 million as our
as the funding shifts to sewel which
increased by more than $1 million for a
net increase of just over $8
million the other Revenue includes um as
we get additional subsidies it also
means we are able to have ADM Revenue to
offset our admin cost so this is just
allocating the revenue from the
programming lines to the
admin on the expense side there's eight
full-time and seven part-time um staff
the total increase there sorry in
expenses is
8.43
million or
50% um back to the staff early in 2024
we did add a third Community Services
worker to support the increased
requirements of seawalk which is
contributing to the large increase in
salaries and
benefits highlights within Service
delivery um with the increase in funding
becomes the increase in Service delivery
of the net uh increase of over $8
million
and then the internal Services used as a
allocation of support cost from other
departments including
Finance proposed additions um the net
for 2025 is
$107,000 uh this is previously committed
is the data and funding analyst position
that was approved at the September
council meeting uh they're responsible
for providing support to Defence
licensed childcare
sector and Council approved this
temporary position as a 12-month
contract and it is anticipated that
based on funding a request to create a
permanent position will be proposed in
2026 budget which is the proposed
Staffing line included in the
chart any questions on
that to summarize early years in child
care due to additional funding the
status quo is a net decrease of 8.69 and
with the proposed additions it becomes
an increase of
1.55% moving on to
housing the revenue side rent is
certainly a large portion of their
revenues as it's government transfers
we're seeing a decrease in subsidies as
agreements with our um housing providers
are expiring the other decrease relates
to the reaching home program where we
budgeted based on what we knew at the
time and since that we pulled these
numbers together we did learn that we
will be getting
more other re Revenue similar to early
years in childcare is primarily the
allocation of administrative funding
from the various programs
councelor
Nicks maybe I'm on the next page
expenses I do you I'll wait till you
finish revenue and then I have a
question on expenses I'm done oh okay I
in looking at the total expenses what
the thought that went through my mind we
discussed at Council the possibility of
doing something with the parking lot on
Elizabeth Street and I I can't remember
how far we got with that discussion I
think there was some sense of urgency to
get it done before this term of council
was over is there any anything in this
expense budget that is is
anticipating doing something with the
parking lot in Elizabeth
Street Brenda do you want to answer this
actually I can I can answer this so
there's actually a new division called
housing strategy which focuses on just
that we'll get
to So within um the housing expenses the
net expenses are down
$114,000 uh the housing division has 10
full time positions and one full-time
contract position it also includes two
housing stability positions um that
report to Ontario Works leadership the
net decrease in salaries and benefits
are a result of Shifting internal
positions to external agencies and are
offset by the increase in Service
delivery highlights there's uh savings
within admin office of
$218,000 as debentures on the original
housing buildings um have been paid off
Service delivery includes increases to
the rent supplement program of $80,000
and um shift of the reaching home funds
from salary to Service delivery of
258 and then the internal services use
is an adjustment to reflect the actual
time um and costs of facility staff
supporting the
division on to
transfers uh we continue to apply
reserves to offset the inability to
collect and apply development charges to
housing we have establish that a plan a
couple years ago over a couple we have a
few more years to
go councelor Garrett just back to
expenses I did ask a question in advance
Brenda answered and it was whether or
not the rent rent supplement is maxed
every year the answer was yes but I
probably should have asked uh I think
you just mentioned how much we increase
it on an annual basis and actually like
what is how much are we uh spending on
that
sorry to put you on the spot I tried my
best to to ask all my questions in
advance but I I I forgot
one so that would really depend on what
we do receive um through subsidy for
that but each year we do re when we do
receive those we do Max it out okay
because I was just thinking you know I
think when we were talking about the
parking lot at the council level there
was some hesitancy to do anything before
we had the
the task force in place perhaps and so I
was just wondering if this is something
we can uh increase to make an impact
right away you I used to have a building
and I had tenants who used this program
great program um so that's all I was I
was thinking I think Amy's got an answer
for this yeah sorry housing is ingrained
in me because that's where I started
when I joined the county um so the rent
supplement
program there's two portions to it one
is funded and one is not really funded
we do get a little bit of subsidy still
but as the agreements run out we're no
longer getting Federal funding which is
I think there's a decrease there of 68
uh we have proposed in the or we have
included in the budget
$824,000 for total rents up which
includes I think maybe2 200 which is
funded through reaching
home okay thanks I think that's another
one I would like to discuss further
maybe at the next meeting because like I
said I think that's something where we
can make an impact right away rather
than waiting to build
buildings um so the rent sub program if
I may um we do have agreements with a
number of different buildings and I know
that we've had a little bit of
difficulty the last few years getting
more um landlords to um to to agree to
it
which is why I know that the housing
staff have shifted to um the housing
allowance okay which we then kind of
give the money to them I think and just
so then the difference would be the
supplement goes to the landlord uh which
is the program I was involved in the
allowance would be an amount that goes
to the individual yes okay I get it
thanks anybody
else
okay um
proposed
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additions um all we have here is the new
grounds maintenance program to uh
support the
trees uh moving on to Capital the
capital asset fund is expected to go
down over the next few years before it
um goes up but the capital Levy will
remain relatively
constant in ter terms of the carry
forward the majority relates to Windows
and Doors of $890,000 that we
um are carrying forward and an HVAC
project of 250 that we've actually
shifted to
2026 um in relation to contributions we
do have a little bit of money coming
from
cmhc that we we receiv received a pot of
money that we can apply over a 3-year
period there is approximately $2.2
million of planned work for
2025 it includes updates to exterior
walkways of
$195,000 um which includes the trail
behind 43 beia towards John Street as
well as parking lot updates of $30,000
which
is I believe it's just Consulting for
future work and then equipment and
Machinery we have appliances that are
replace on an ASN basis we have $62,000
in the
budget the buildings we have a Contin uh
continuation of the security upgrade
project of 105 Electric electrical
upgrades including indoor and outdoor
lighting as well as fire alarm panels of
77,000 H back includes regular
replacement of boilers and planning for
2026 Replacements of
92,000 kitchen bathroom and unit
flooring are updated as required and we
have $352,000 in the budget for for that
flooring also includes common room and
hallway updates of 188 we have window
replacements of $760,000 and then
entrance vestibule balcony and other
exterior door Replacements of
$150,000 summarizing housing the S quo
operating is 1.65 with capital it's
1.35% and with a proposed additions it's
2.17 any further questions on housing
Ontario
Works there is a small increase in the
administration funding of $45,600
the majority of the Interior work
subsidies are dependent on the actual
costs other revenues are recoveries of
monies previously flowed to clients and
for the most part are remitted right
back to the
province Ontario Works has 12 full-time
positions and supports the housing
stability team uh regular increase es
have been offset by attrition due to the
reduction in funding in
2024 I didn't include any highlights for
the other expenses within admin because
they're pretty um much the same I will
note on the service delivery there's a
decrease there and that directly relates
to the change in the funding
program transfers we did include a
transfer to offset um the decrease in
funding in 2024 we had originally
planned to do that 25 as well but with
the attrition we no longer need to do
that as well as the additional funding
and then we have a small allocation to
um it capital for future replacement of
equipment proposed additions we have
proposed increase from Headwaters
community in action to better support
the community I mentioned that um in the
council section as well as an additional
uh $20,000 to support DC moves are there
any questions on these
summarizing Ontario Works the status
quot operating is a decrease of
41% with proposed additions the total
increase is
5.07 next is housing
strategy this is a new division um it
includes funds to support the execution
of the housing strategy plan
proposed additions so salaries and
benefits for Project Lead for
implementation of the housing strategy
of
$130,000 plus 4500 for admin and it
related
costs Consulting to assist with next
steps of $50,000 and a transfer to
reserve of 500,000 has been included to
set aside funds for potential future
Capital
work coun White
thanks won uh first of all I I'm
learning on Monday I'm going to try to
not to use any bot statements so good
for I I absolutely support the project
manager piece absolutely we uh We've set
a course and we need to follow through
with it uh
and uh given uh Steve's comments earlier
I mean we are in a challenging financial
situation economically uh at at the
moment uh people are being squeezed from
a lot of different sides in April we
Face uh fairly significant interest
increase in the carbon tax um there's
new rules coming around the capital
capital gains that are not back by
legislation but that's besides Point um
and given what uh the incoming president
is suggesting he may or may not do um
you know certainly a lot of people in
Duff are going to be squeezed by that
not the least of which is anybody in the
farming industry who deals with
commodity prices on a regular basis um
you know costs are going to go up uh
revenues will probably go down and
that'll have a knock on effect on just
about every other business in Du County
um so I would think uh given that this
is the first year of the Project Lead uh
position maybe there's a way we could
fund that out of reserves uh because
reserves essentially are are u a lot of
them are supposed to to be rainy day
funds and it's raining uh so maybe
there's a way we can uh take roll back
the budget increase a little bit by
using reserves for the first year of
this position it's already built into
the proposed next year's budget uh so
that maybe that should be something we
should look at even if it's a reduction
in the transfer to reserve that offsets
maybe that's a way we could you know
maybe lower our increase a little bit
is there an amount that you would like
me to include with
that well I think we could probably look
at moving that entire amount into
Reserves at least for the first year
until we sort of have a better
understanding of where we're going with
with that which is the whole point of
bringing on the project lead
y we can do
that I didn't I didn't quite understand
the last comment move what the the
500,000 is that what you're
134 essentially I'll just apply
$134,800 from reserves to offset the
cost of the Project
Lead that is Direction
it's on the list we have it on the list
list okay um councelor mlan sorry just
to clarify though so the the plans don't
change you're just looking at how to
fund it differently to reduce the levy
is that right okay thank
you
Phil thank you um
this is my only um strategic plan
priority and so in that sense I I
support well I I support doing a lot
more than what we're doing and a lot
faster
um saying that my understanding from the
housing
strategy was there wasn't going to be
anything built for a number of
years and that makes me curious as to
what the Project Lead would be
doing and why we would also need in
addition to having a Project Lead we
would
require uh another
$50,000 for consulting services so um I
I don't know who could address that but
if somebody could take a stab at it I'd
really appreciate
it through you Warden herner I I will
take a step at it and and if I get into
trouble I'm going to look to Brenda for
some
help um so as you recall at the council
meeting when the housing strategy was
reviewed there was some direction given
to try and expedite a process where we
would identify three properties that
could be um given a priority and so uh
there have been some conversations with
the Consulting team that was working on
the original part of of the project and
they are moving ahead with figuring out
what the next piece of implementation
would look like and part of that next
role is to work with the um planning
staff in both Orangeville and shelburn
uh to ter to determine um how those
particular sites that were identified
could actually accommodate uh the
properties within sort of the planning
constraints within both of those
municipalities so that a a fair amount
of that Consulting uh number is to get
that work done so that we know exactly
from a planning perspective um how we
could move which Pro which properties
are the top three because we that
original list was done just on a a
preliminary assessment but now we're
doing sort of the real deep dive
assessment on which three properties
would work the best and then once that
is done uh which will be quite soon and
there's also some consultation that goes
along with that because we don't want to
pick three properties and then find out
that you know from a from a community
perspective or from a servicing
perspective it doesn't make any sense uh
and then the Project Lead would come
into onto the scene and take over from
there and start to really bring together
the resources required to start
developing plans for those specific
three properties to look at funding
opportunities that could be utilized and
to find most importantly to find
Partners who could actually build and
operate those fa facilities on those
three properties so that's the
preliminary plan as we see it now there
may need to be some tweaks but that's
pretty much how it looks at this
point anyone
else okay Brenda you're off the hook on
that
one okay
Amy okay
so the next slide where am
I okay Community servic is done move on
to
defo the status quo increase uh for all
of duffo is 74% it includes Long-Term
Care Community Support Services and
maloid
Center um you'll notice that there's a
big increase in meloid center and a
decrease in long-term care and that 100%
relates to Capital there's a growing
need in meloid Center in 2025 for more
Capital dollars so all that I've done
here is I've reduced the contribution to
capital for long-term care and increased
it by exactly the same amount and the
meloid center which is
$200,000 um there are some proposed
additions which result in four the
increase being
4.82 and then we have a
capital there's a they have a lot a
couple of really large projects you'll
see in 2025 the triple bar is quite high
and then we pretty much deplete the fund
and then we need to build it up again
for future large
projects okay we're going to move into
long-term
care user fees are revenues from
residents which have seen an increase
over the last year uh we've also seen
increases to Ministry funding
particularly aimed at addressing
increased Direct Care Staffing
requirements
on the expense side at the time we
pulled this together we had 118
full-time and 1331 part-time positions
at duffen Oaks including six contract
positions as somebody who sees payroll
quite often it changes constantly
there's people always coming and always
going um the
increase uh in the salaries and benefits
are you going to do next slide T we did
add additional hours due to the
increased funding as well we shifted to
social worker from an external contract
to full-time position in 2024 and the
balance is just regular Staffing
increases um expenses 2024 included
$150,000 for the older adult study uh
which is leading to a decrease in
admitted office in 2025 we have an
increase in legal fees to support Union
negotiations of SE um to
$70,000 additional amount
have been included for a multi-year
project to replace office furniture
$14,500 Service delivery includes uh
$910,000 for food we have
$233,400 for external contracts to
support the residents and nearly
$635,000 in supplies and products to
support staff and residents and then the
internal Services uh used is the it
position that we talked about earlier in
ggs
transfers um we do have a transfer from
the wsib uh fund to offset Associated
costs we talked about the um claim and
um Insurance costs within people in
equity but we do charge directly
different Oak shared at different
Oaks and then
um the
$172,000 is an allocation to Capital of
uh funding that they receive
for proposed additions the net increase
is
$64,000 and relates to the medical
secretary um proposed to start in March
at a cost of $61,200 plus 4500 for um
and support costs in a
laptop and then the annualized cost is
$74,000 are there any questions on that
for
Brenda okay
the capital asset
fund uh lots of ups and done Downs over
the next couple years for the for
longterm
care the amount uh the 1.48 for the
prior year carry forward this includes
uh fire alarm panels of 220 security of
400 and nurse
call and the balance of that is um we
actually received some additional
funding in 2024 that we were able to
apply applied to the capital asset fund
instead of using um the tax levy dollars
so we I think added an additional over
$500,000 to the fund so that's what that
is um contributions as I said earlier
there's a significant decrease in the
capital um
Levy for long-term
care uh yeah I already spoke about this
so I don't to speak it again so other
revenue is the allocation of preven
itial funding from operating of about
$192,000 Capital work is just over $3.1
million for
2025 land
improvements and we have exterior
walkway um and patios of $440,000 you
can go the next one um buildings include
security of 400,000 updates of the fire
alarm
panel our largest project um is the
replacement of four roof top units at
$1.75 million Renovations of
housekeeping closets at 25,000 and
replacement of laundry room floor of $
35,000 uh within equipment and Machinery
we have regular replacement of mass
Raiders of $24,000 we have kitchen
laundry and bathing equipment of 94,000
furniture of 66 and lifts of
$60,000 Vehicles include an ongoing
replacement of the Community Support
Services 2025 includes 24
,000 for two accessible wheelchair
vans other includes the nurse call
upgrades which started in
2024 uh we included
$150,000 in the 2025 budget as we
anticipated work would commence in 2024
we actually need to increase the two
this to
275 um they just weren't able to get
started on the work they had some issues
with the with the um vendor um the funds
of already been raised or included in
that 1
point six or whatever it was that we
carried forward so it's just increas in
the work value no impact on the tax
levy summarizing Long-Term Care status
quo operating is 05% when we add in
capital it decreases to minus 3.44 and
then with the proposed additions minus
2.32 any questions on Long long-term
care
moving to Community Support
Services on the revenue side they
received an increase to funding in 2024
for assisted living of uh just over
$510,000 on the expense side they're up
$550,000 uh which is the new uh funding
there are four full-time positions three
part-time positions and 11 casual
positions within um this division
other
highlights um mileage we've decreased it
to 46300 just to better reflect our
actual and then the assistant living
funding and Service
delivery there are a few proposed
increases to community Ser Support
Services the total is
$191,000 which then more than doubles in
2026 previously committed includes
Transit of 168 that has been
budgeted um we've offset that by $80,000
transfer from the rate stabilization
reserve the new you can go to the next
slide on the new to
2025 all relates to the older adult Str
the implementation of the older adult
strategy a supervisory level position is
recommended which would also support the
implementation of the enhanced
Transportation plan 25% of this position
would be allocated to support the older
adult
transportation and and 75% towards
Community Support Services atmin the
total cost for the year is
140,000 um including benefits training
and new
computer
uh program related costs include a
part-time driver as well as vehicle
related costs the revenue collected from
user fees result in a net cost of
$38,000 uh which doesn't includ include
the supervisor above next we've included
$10,000 um to support a marketing plan
for senior services and then lastly uh
we included a transfer from the rate
stabilization Reserve to offset the
increase of this was there any questions
on
this councelor
Garretts I think the so the marketing
plan is probably directly related to I
think the study showed that
the the the older adults were not aware
of the lot of the programming and that's
why they weren't accessing them is that
correct so this is to sort of address
that through you Warden that is
absolutely correct and even targeting
with um you know the medical community
to make sure that they're aware of the
programs and can share that as well okay
good
thanks Rising Community Support Services
the status qu is
14.21% and with the proposed additions
the total increase becomes 83.1
5% moving on to the Malloy
Center um Regular increases to rent are
here other revenue is cleaning costs
associated with early
years um there are no direct Staffing
costs with the Malloy
Center highlights on the expenses uh
facilities includes $20,000 increase to
building maintenance cost to better
reflect actual costs the addition of
snow clearing cost of $25,000 which was
previously included in the internal
Services
recovered uh previously the snow
clearing contract was one amount for the
entire complex the new contract allowed
us to um break up the cost by building
and therefore we were able to make those
adjustments the Cal asset fund will be
in a negative at the end of 2025
uh despite the doubling of the capital
Levy um the prior year carry forward of
$54,000 um actually when I reviewed this
Slide the prior your carry forward made
no sense to me it should actually be
$150,000 um as we differred both
security at a $20,000 and washrooms at1
130 it looks like the opening balance
that I have in there for 2024 is
actually incorrect so once I change that
the Never everything will be
fixed I'll fix it in the final budget
package um in terms of the capital work
plan we have just over $500,000 planned
for
2025 this includes updates to the fire
alarm panel of
$100,000 regular replacement of several
HVAC uh systems at 212 Renovations of
the public
washrooms um 130,000 and then as needed
window replacements for 45,000
summarizing the metaloid center the
status quo is 88.8 five which looks huge
but of course that's the shift um from
Capital if we hadn't done that shift the
increase would have only been
1.74% are there any questions on meloid
Center so again we have the
status uh quo and then the proposed
additions Steve you have a question yes
thank you uh Madame Warden I was just
wondering about the status of the
property on Highway 89 and the Town Line
Highway 89 and Town Line Between Amar
Anthony Luther we talked about selling
that or talked about maybe selling that
or not I just wonder where we are or
could we use explore that again and
maybe use that money somewhere this
budget or next
sorry Steve I'm not sure anybody has an
answer um no I don't either or
counselor we're talking about the
property at East Lutheran and um H 25 I
think so so the dep Federation of
Agriculture is planning to bring their
proposal forward I believe to the next
uh Economic Development Tourism
Committee
meeting all right thank you as long as
we're it's on our mind and it's
forgotten as far as they're concerned
they've been putting
that proposal together okay well my like
would be uh tell it and throw the
profits at something human uh like in
the uh in the services we provide in in
our are
uh towards uh the poor and the destitute
but thank you very much thank you Steve
Raj did you have a
point yeah um through you Warden white
I'm not Warden white sorry okay he's
over there so used to saying Warden
white sorry I know so am I um through
you Warden Herer um we actually have
been in contact with um the de
Federation of Agriculture with regards
to the the pasture project they should
be coming forward with a proposal and we
have been in regular meetings with them
um so I anticipate at the January 23rd
uh committee meeting that we would have
something to discuss then and they will
also be coming forward as a delegation
to that meeting thank you thank
you okay just summarizing different Oaks
uh 74% status quo and then
4.82% with proposed
additions we're almost
done moving on to Health
Services uh this includes two areas
Paramedic Services and Public Health
Combined they have a status quo increase
of
2.64% with proposed additions it's
4.02 uh the
capital yeah this one if you look
closely the Orange Line does go in the
negative quite a
bit um part of the problem with we're
having doing this 20-year capital budget
relates to the ambulances we have to
order them one year and then we don't
get them until one or two years later so
it kind of just messes things up but I
hopefully it will all work out in the
end that's a great way to budget
hopefully
um okay moving the revenues so there's
an increase in subsidies uh we received
$116,400
increase to the offload nursing program
and then just regular increases to the
paramedics and other Revenue relates to
the community Paramedic program that is
funded through the
hospital on the expense side they do not
have any salary and benefits um as those
fall within service delivery as we
contract that with the hospital the net
increase in expenses is 3.15% or
$348,000 highlights on the midin office
2024 uh we had included a service review
which is offset by reserves we decided
to take a different path in 2025 and we
have that included in the
new Service delivery includes 2.6%
increase in the contract with Headwaters
Healthcare as well as 100 the $116,000
for offload nursing
facilities include snow clearing
increase of about 4,900 Grounds
Maintenance is increase of 5700 and then
other general maintenance increases of
11,000 moving on to the proposed
addition uh The Paramedic Services
master plan will provide a 10-year
forecast of what service needs will be
and how better to deliver those Services
the current contract with Headwaters
Healthcare expires this year prior to
Renewal a consultant will be engaged to
review the current model to ensure it
continues to meet the needs of the
community it is anticipated that the
same consultant will be able to perform
that the work
$100,000 um is included and we're
proposing to fund that from rate
stabilization as it is a one-time
thing the next is the additional shift
at um in shelburn there was a report
that went to Council in dis
okay I went to November HHS that um
talked about this um not going to read
all the details because hopefully you've
looked at that the proposed cost for
2024 is
$201,000 which is offset 50% by subsidy
and I just want to state that this is
only for 3 months so when it comes to
2026 this will be 4 times the
amount any questions
okay moving to
Capital there's a giant decrease in the
capital asset Fund in the next couple
years before it quickly goes back
up um the Capital Carry forward a 1.2 is
made up of $430,000 of ambulances which
we've ordered and haven't received yet
garage doors of 48,000 security of 70 uh
in vehicle laptops of $90,000 in
exterior wall work of
$2,000 this adds up to $658,000
the balance of the 1.2 is relates to
Prior year subsidies that we anticipated
that the province would claw back and
it's come to fruition that they're not
clawing back so we will be um adding it
in 2024 to their
revenue contributions um with the
addition of the surface and shellburn we
are able to apply development charges um
towards an ambulance
purchase the value of work for 2025 is
just over $1.6
million it includes design work for
parking lot replacement of
$5,000 security work for $1 120 which is
planned for all three stations garage
door Replacements of 75 two furnaces and
a boiler uh
$225,000 and work required to rectify
ongoing flooding issues of
75,000 we also include a small amount
for appliances which we just kind of
keep carrying forward until the actual
Appliance needs to be
replaced um 2025 includes the
replacement of two ambulances at
$225,000 each and then the balance owing
on three ambulances that have already
been ordered and we hope to get in 2025
of 430,000 and one Community paramedic
vehicle of 90
and then in relation to the new shift we
are proposing the addition of an
ambulance which we are offsetting with
development charges and then the last is
the command vehicle um that also was
covered in the report that Gary did and
adding that as a new vehicle for the
chief and the deputy chief any questions
on
those councelor Taylor I'm just curious
the um outside of the flooding issue
isues that we talked about what is what
is that building like um for long term
and I don't see like we don't have a
plan to replace it all the way up to
2044 right like are we're still we're
still good there we're happy
we're it feels like we're not doing
anything with the building necessarily
you wonder about
that Gary would you like to take that
one are you happy I'm happy through you
Warden white or Warden Herer um that is
part of the master plan that we've
proposed is that it would speak to that
whether we need more space um as you
know we're growing we've already
outgrown the current building in
Orangeville and have had to find some
space for our community paramedics
moving forward um so in that Master Plan
we're hoping that it would identify uh
what our needs would be for over 10
years for the town of Orangeville and
whether that would include another
building at another location or whether
we'd be able to actually do an addition
at the current
space if I could none of that is in here
right now right because we don't know
what we don't know so so this could
be magnified
significantly and is it your you just
said you're happy and it's great that
you're happy I'm I'm happy you're happy
but do you think that building is are we
into something just out of
curiosity in regards to the flooding
you're speaking of specifically are we
going to
spend a few million dollars not a few
million but a lot a lot of million of
dollars of of a new building is that do
you think do you anticipate that would
be part of your
plan um I would expect that there is
something that is going to come with
that because we don't have any room
really to grow in that area and with the
increase that we're getting in
Orangeville and the entire County we
would need at some point I would expect
within 10 years that you would see
probably another ambulance being needed
for the town of Orangeville and we just
really don't have any spot to put it
right
now may I ask a cautious question of you
U CAO I I'm I'm I ask it cautiously I'm
just curious ious was there any changes
made to that land size there or is that
status
quo and yes or no would be fine if
that's it not
appropriate uh through you Warden uh
nothing to date but there is potential
okay
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um summarizing parotic Services the
status quo operating is
2.92% when you add in capital it's 2.42
and with proposed additions it's
4.25% moving on to Public
Health uh debt payment we paid off the
loan that we had in 2024 four it's the
big increase in 2020 or decrease in
2025 Service delivery uh the annual
increase on public health contract is
2.9% in 2020 in 2013 the county entered
into a loan repayment agreement with
public health whereby a credit was
applied to our annual cost that offset
the additional loan costs in essence the
credit received equal the loan payments
and thus there was no impact on the tax
levy however in 2024 the budget the 2024
budget the credit and the loan costs
were not equal which has resulted in a
higher than expected increase to Public
Health transfers from reserves have been
included to lessen the impact over the
next few
years and we also do apply a small
amount of development charges to the
county share of the public health
debentures on their
buildings summarizing Public Health the
net increases 3.32%
and that's it for Health
Services I do sorry go ahead one more
slide this is just a summary of where we
are at where
we are sitting when we
started
um and if you go go to the next slide
this with all the things we talked about
tonight we're sitting at
5.16% so at this point Amy we have a
choice we
can
approve a budget tonight or we can
return and talk about those areas that
have been
identified uh for another time is that
our Choice
here
folks if I have some input into this
choice I certainly would not want to
finalize this tonight I think we do have
some issues we have to explore further
and
uh it it's enough for one day and we
need to have time to think about it
councelor
mlan uh yeah so I would I would agree
with that the only thing I would say is
5% is a lot
right um over the last year I think
inflation in 2024 averaged around 2% I
went back to our 2023 budget and there's
a statement in there that says that
historically our tax levies try to hold
true to inflation and now I know that
we've got a lot of big expenses coming
up but now that we've had this wonderful
presentation and I think we all have a
better understanding of what's in the
budget I would encourage members of
council to think hard about how we can
try to get that down um and maybe come
to the next meeting with some
ideas anyone
else yeah if I could ask another
question or sorry um so we we've
referenced the right stabilization fund
a number of times throughout this
presentation taking reserves from there
so I would certainly like to see what
that total is and I would like to know
what we expect to have from from our
2024 actuals to to budget to know
whether we have a Sur cluster deficit or
what situation we expect to be
in did you Council thank you Wen
um again trying to be positive I love
Scott Scott's my one of my favorite
people
and um G given the economic climate I
think we we owe it to ourselves to look
at a couple of things uh the ones we
mentioned sure but maybe also something
like the welcome signs for for a couple
of reasons I mean that's a million
dollar over 5 years $200,000 a year but
if you really look at it that is a
program that was designed and
implemented preco we're now way past Co
so maybe maybe it's not time to continue
rolling that out maybe it's time to
relook at it and see if we want to take
a different direction or if we want to
continue with it or even push it back a
year or modify it somehow but I mean
that could certainly go a long way to
lowering a bit of the budget as well so
maybe that's just something we have a
further discussion about uh later
on lby
Scott anyone and he didn't say but he
didn't anyone
else councilor post uh this is to Amy
just briefly on the last slide you've
said the things that we've discussed are
now at 5.16 is that taking into
consideration all of the items that we
added to the
list or no
no so what that includes there's a
$40,000 change for the h hazard waste
contract there's $115,000 rent Revenue
there's $100,000 for the bike lanes and
then there's 135 for the um housing
strategy Project
Lead that's so it is that gets us to
5.16 based on the things that we added
to the list tonight yeah and the other
thing I have on the list sorry is the
investor attraction attraction but I
don't have it am
councelor
ni as important as the housing strategy
program may
be I I still wonder why and I know we
took some out of the
$500,000 for the um consultant or
whatever it
was is it necessary NE to put
$500,000 into reserves for that program
this year yes you're going to tell me
we're just building up problems for the
future but
but okay I just put it out there if
that's really
necessary John
tayor is there a math on what that um
budget means to each household cuz I
always think that's helpful too right
like is this is that
$32 or what whatever it is I don't know
I don't know but what what is that as an
increase i' be curious to understand
what that is and wouldn't be flippant
with residents money but it it is
helpful to
understand you have that uh through you
Warden the increase per ,000 $100,000 of
assessment is $20.63
yeah okay Council kman first um nearing
the the fifth uh fifth hour that we've
been uh doing this I don't know that
we're doing our best thinking at this
point in the in the course of the
evening i' I'd uh support going away uh
considering what we what we've done um
mindful that if we're adding anything to
the budget it should be within the the
amount uh that is currently recommended
and uh looking at areas where we can
economized by uh deferring or taking
things out but I don't think we're going
to get to a decision
tonight just on the so that was $20 per
100,000 of impac assessed value right
and since impac hasn't we're going on
nine years to the to the point like the
in 2016
uh I don't know how many houses were a
million dollars for example but it's
it's yeah it's it's a big difference
from what your your house is worth now
so um that just sort of you know I guess
sort of
uh lessens the the the the impact
because you're you're working on 2016
assess values so
thanks um through you Warden just to um
James point about um
being around
CPI if you look at the status quo budget
it's 3.2% which is close to CPI anything
else is new and it's always going to be
over
CPI thank
you councelor Mills thank you won I I
agree with several of the other comments
that you know a final decision on this
is probably best reserved for another
night but um would the intention be to
call a special meeting like I I I don't
think we should probably wait until our
next regularly scheduled council meeting
to get this wrapped up we had the 30th
didn't we was is it already scheduled
for the 30th okay yeah
perfect yeah so there is a special
meeting already scheduled for January
30th so I think have to go well and the
thing is you've seen the big uh
presentation what we should be talking
about at that point are some of the
economies and
some of the specifics as opposed to the
whole thing
right so is that a 7:00 meeting or is
that a
three it's a seven it's a six okay it's
hard to keep
track okay um so thank you Amy um it
appears that we're not ready to make any
kind of a motion at this point did
somebody else
no um well I wasn't going to send you
home home it was just we have no uh
motion on the budget tonight but I do
want if you have some ideas or questions
for staff please address them to Amy
ahead of the meeting so that she can do
some thinking uh on on how this might or
she'll direct it to whoever the question
has to go to councelor little just as a
summary for us can we get a synopsis a
written synopsis of what those um list
was that we created today just so that
you know we're clear all clear on the
same page thanks okay thank
you all right uh let's keep moving then
um number 10 there's no strategic Plan
update this month we have some
correspondents um correspondents receiv
received from the municipality of mccoa
to request duffing contribute to the
funding the Simco duffrin
Moka Crime Stoppers what are councilor's
wishes councelor post thank you won
Herer um we actually just in Orangeville
did the proclamation of crimes Stoppers
month yesterday or the day before um um
and I was speaking to the folks who run
our division of crimes Stoppers and they
were talking to me about the financial
issues that they're having um what I
requested and I sent them the
information today is I requested that
they come and delegate to County Council
to talk to all of us about what their
needs are how it's being funded
currently where their gaps are and what
the future looks like so I did provide
them with our Clerk's emails and ask
them to reach out to her to ask to
delegate at a future meeting perfect
good okay thank you
they want the money for 2025 so unless
we get this
delegation and either say yes or no to
some money how do we get it in the 2025
budget
Lisa um good question um I mean we could
set aside money at the budget time if
that's the will of of council the the
correspondence that we got was from one
municipality that participates in it not
from Crim Stoppers directly so I think
we'd be better served to hear directly
from crimes Stoppers of their need
rather than just from one municipality
um the Simco deff and Moka Crime
Stoppers do get funding from all three
different municipalities and Moka has
has stated to them that they were going
to encourage us to also Pony up and give
some money but I I think it I think it
would be premature of us to make a
decision on what that dollar amount may
look like what they did tell me from
crimes Stoppers this week was um they
have put a a shut their door date of
August August 1st on the table um
because they have to have a plan they
have they don't want to just last second
and say I don't have any money we're
going to have to close the door so they
have um said that they're in danger
right now based on the lack of funding
that they do have so it's up to council
if they want to allocate some money now
but I have asked them to come to to
County Council to speak to us I think
Council Garretts or Council keman I was
going to say wouldn't it be a community
Grant like many other community grants I
mean we have the we just increase that
budget tonight uh in theory
anyway I did also let them know about
the community grants program both at the
county of Defan and at the town of
Orangeville and advise them to keep an
eye on both the websites for the
advertisement of when those applications
will open but in the mean time I thought
it would be good for them to also come
to council and just explain what their
situation is as well as to explain to
councel what the work that they do in
our municipality looks like and what
their results have been so I think
regardless of the funding piece I think
it's important that they come
okay thank you I think we'll just uh
wait then and the clerk will uh get us
get them on the agenda um correspondence
has been received from Duffer M
municipalities regarding the
multi-jurisdictional fire protection and
prevention plan could I please have a
mover and a seconder to receive the
correspondence for information purposes
moved by James seconded by Wade all
those in favor
carried okay Township of amaranth the
correspondence has been received from
the township of amanth to support the
township of memmer's resolution to
create a North duffan fire service area
could I have a mover and a seconder to
receive the correspondence for
information
purposes moved by guard house second and
by Garretts all those in
favor carried notices of motion
councelor Garrett has submitted a notice
of motion it has been slightly amended
from the version published in the agenda
and it will be placed on the February
Council agenda for discussion it reads
as follows um whereas the county of
duffo received Ascent on May 31st
1994 and whereas it would represent good
governance for the county of duffan
council to review the 30-year-old act to
ensure that it meets the current
conditions and priorities of the county
of duffan therefore be it resolved that
County Council discuss the county of
duffen act at the March County council
meeting to determine which items are no
longer revent or require
updating so that's the notice of motion
coming uh is there a closed session I
don't think so we've had enough okay
bylaws number 15 so we have a
recommendation that bylaw
20251 through 205
20053 inclusive be read a first second
and third time and
enacted need a mover and a second uh
moved by Nicks and seconded by kelman
all those in
favor
carried um and at the special uh council
meeting on August 22nd Council received
a report regarding the model franchise
agreement with Enbridge Gas at that
meeting Council had a first and second
reading of bylaw 20 2432 to authorize
execution of the agreement since then
the Ontario energy board has approved
the agreement between duffen County and
Enbridge so we may now have a third and
final reading of the bylaw may I have a
motion for bylaw 2024 32 to be read a
third time and enacted moved by post
seconded by Garretts all those in
favor
carried okay
do any members of council have any other
business councilor
white uh thanks Warden just wondering if
we can get an update on what delegations
we have and whatnot and what we're
talking about at Roma if we have any
through through you Warden uh thanks for
the question uh councelor White yes we
got two U one through Ministry of the
attorney general which is on
Tuesday at at 10:45
10:45 and another one with the Ministry
of Transportation which is on Monday and
I will get back to you with the time so
actually before counselors who are going
to Roma if you before you leave if you
could maybe just touch base with me and
figure out who's going to which
delegation and then we can firm up all
those details uh and just further to to
answer your question uh the ministry
attorney general delegation is on um the
stagnation of uh fees related to Traffic
infractions or under the highway traffic
act and uh the non-collection of a
number of Poa fines over the last many
years did you want to add anything and
I'm going to add something about uh
illegal land
use sorry I'm going to add something
about illegal land use and our
ineffective process of going to POA
Court getting a crummy fine and then
having to go to Superior Court to get
compliance so I'm going to I'm going to
add that in
there and the Ministry of Transportation
delegation is on uh requesting an update
for the uh study being done on Highway
10 and just general traffic road safety
issues with respect to U both provincial
highways and and road safety generally
especially on Rural roads uh referencing
the work that was done by uh the the um
good roads Association
uh thanks for that uh mangon Township
has a delegation with MTO as well on
road safety Highway 10 uh Ken Road 17
and some other things so perhaps we
could uh work together just to make sure
we're not doing too much duplication on
those
thanks councelor Mills I think you've
got a delegation as well yes uh Warden
as I mentioned you on on Monday um we've
received a delegation with MTO as well
it's on Monday I I think at 2 or 2:30 um
I'm hoping the warden if her schedule
permits U amongst the multitude of other
delegations you'll have that that week
that you'll be able to join us my time
is your
time did you want to hear everybody we
have four you've got so we've got uh
attorney general for councelor because
that's the speed enforcement in rural
areas I think is what we're discussing
there Municipal Affairs and Housing uh
uh can't even remember Ministry of
infrastructure it's to advocate for
different uh designs and standards for
structures on low volume roads and
what's our what's our other one
uh no that's an
infrastructure oh Minister of Finance
who uh it's the Parliamentary assistant
to talk about uh um to put it bluntly uh
uh treaty as well as they treat the city
of Toronto and uh and perhaps allowing
for more uh uh tools to collect taxes so
thanks thank
you anybody else anything councilor po
if you're wanting delegations the town
of Orangeville just has one delegation
it's with the Ministry of Finance to
talk about the Ontario Municipal
partnership fund which we are the only
municipality in deff County who does not
receive so we're we're reaching out to
them about that the county does they
don't
that's right the county as a whole
doesn't either and I I'll send you some
data that I've collected about it but
thank you okay thank
you um all right we are now going to
move into um the confirmatory bylaw may
have a motion for the confirming bylaw
20254 to be ra read a first second and
third time moved by Mill seconded by
Hall all those in
favor carried
the next committee meetings will be held
Thursday January 3rd in the duff
room Thursday oh January
23rd I think you said the third oh did I
sorry 23rd uh infrastructure and
environmental services at 9 General
government services 11 Community
Development tourism one and Health and
Human Services
three um then the next meeting will be
that January 30th just get that in your
calendar so you don't forget our next
council meeting will be February
13th at um same time same
place okay we have a motion to
adjourn oh guy okay we're carrying on a
well I don't know we have
new I'm good with you doing it
move by
Guy second by
Garrett there you go thanks everyone
that was a long haul but uh appreciate
your
attention
any that's all right