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everyone my apologies I'm going to have

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shelburn um we'll now ask staff to re

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begin recording and I guess they have

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publicly broadcast the recording of this

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meeting will also be available on our

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future uh we'll Now call the meeting to

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order and just a reminder of the

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training that we had on Monday night uh

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be kind tonight especially to our

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treasure I'll Now read the uh land

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acknowledgement statement we'll begin

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the meeting by sharing the land

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acknowledgement statement respectfully

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acknowledging that duffrin County

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resides within the traditional territory

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and ancestoral lands of the Tiani at

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Randon anani and the anes naavis people

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we also acknowledge that various

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municipali ities within the county of

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duffrin reside within the treaty lands

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named under the halderman deed of 1784

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and two of the Williams treaties of 1818

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treaty 18 the NWA Saga purchase and

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treaty 19 the agis

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treaty these traditional territories

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upon which we live and learn are steeped

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in Rich indigenous history and

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traditions it is with this statement

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that we declare to honor and respect the

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past and Pres present connection of

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indigenous peoples with this land its

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waterways and

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resources I'll now ask the uh clerk to

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do a roll call please thank you

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councelor kran pres councelor guardos

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present councelor Garretts present

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councelor Hall present councelor Hawkins

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present councelor little present

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councelor mlan present councelor Mills

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councelor Nicks present councelor post

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present councelor wrench I'm here

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and Warden Herer present thank

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you and we'll move on to the approval of

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the agenda may I have a motion to

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approve the agenda and the

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addendum uh moved by Mills seconded by

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oh I don't know Garretts they all went

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up um all those in

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favor

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uh we'll now move on to

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uh at this point members of council are

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required to State any pecuniary interest

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uh please State the interest and the

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general nature thereof declarations must

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be verbal and in writing and can be

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emailed to the clerk

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yes sir um anything regarding staff

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salaries I declare a conflict due to a

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family member who works at the county

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okay thank

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you approval of the minutes um approval

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of the minutes of the election of warden

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meeting and regular meeting of Council

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on December 12th

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2024 uh please note that the election of

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the warden minutes have been amended to

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properly reflect that councelor Nicks as

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well as councelor Solomon voted for

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councelor little to be the chair of the

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Community Development and Tourism

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Committee may I have a motion to adopt

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the minutes from the election of the

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ward meeting as amended and regular

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meeting of Council on December 12th 2024

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moved by councelor post and Seed by uh

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councelor little all those in

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carried we now have a proclamation or a

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delegation from PC mlan duffen op

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regarding the annual Polar Plunge

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challenge I'd like to um invite

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provincial Constable mlan from duffo P

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delegate excellent uh first and foremost

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I want to thank uh County Council for

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having me on there today um I know I

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signed up short notice but I want to to

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make sure that I got the information

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about the Polar Plunge out to the County

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Council um and to invite the counselors

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that uh sit uh within the municipalities

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to participate within the Polar Plunge

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um it's not my first time coming to

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various councils for this so I fig that

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this was the best opportunity where I

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can hit all the municipalities all at

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once and I encourage each uh delegate

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from County Council to bring it back to

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their individual councils within their

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municipality

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um I know that I see a couple Mayors

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Deputy Mayors counselors that kind of

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cringe as soon as they saw my name on

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the board um mayor Mills being one of

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them and uh Deputy Mayor mlan so uh for

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those that participated last year um I

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believe we had six or seven different

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delegates from County Council um as well

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as I know Orangeville Council has some

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Representatives so I want to thank

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everybody once again for participating

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in this very important event and I want

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to encourage those who did participate

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last year um whether it was donations or

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actually participating in the event to

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come on out again this year um just a

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bit of a background for those who are

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unaware as to what the Polar Plunge is

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what it is is it's a fundraiser that uh

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we hold across the province I believe

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there was about 25 across the province

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last year um where people jump in a body

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of water for Special Olympics so they

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raise money um we in shelburn we've held

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it this will be the fifth year total

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between the sh Police Service and the

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atar provinal police uh where we set up

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a pool everybody jumps in once the fire

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department fills it up and rais a lot of

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money I believe that between shelburn

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and op we've raised well over $100,000

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for Special Olympics alone which up

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until last uh the three events preco we

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were beating out police services that

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were running the event like uh Toronto

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police we're being a peel region and all

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that so it's amazing for such a small

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community to uh continue to raise amount

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of money so um for the Polar Plunge

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itself it's a part of the larger

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fundraising initiative of the law

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enforcement torrun which globally it is

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the largest Grassroots fundraiser for

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the Special Olympics so what the money

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goes towards is it assists special

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Olympians in training it assists them in

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being able to participate in sport and

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uniforms and all that sort of stuff um

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and allows them to grow it gives them

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the opportunity to fit in and become

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champions

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um we have numerous um athletes within

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the community I want to say that the

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duffing club alone uh probably consists

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about 35 to 40 different athletes and in

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Deen County we offer I believe it's six

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different sports in total so it's very

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important it's a lot of athletes do play

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in several different sports uh between

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summer winter and so forth um so it's an

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extremely important uh program that we

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kind of head up um this year's Polar

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Plunge we have moved it um just to

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coincide with another event that's going

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on uh so it'll be on family day Monday

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which is February 17th

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2025 um and we've moved it over to the

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agricultural barns in shelburn um that

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way we can kind of collaborate with the

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free Family skate that happens on family

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day and we're not splitting the

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community it's walking distance

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basically everywhere in town and then we

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can also um people can go there they can

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have the free Family skate and then they

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can go watch people be uncomfortable by

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jumping in the pool and then they can

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kind of go home so um this year is going

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to be the first year where we haven't

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held it at fiddle Park and again it was

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just Logistics because we realized that

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with the free Family skate we were

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literally splitting the community so

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we're just trying to bring everybody

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together in a familyfriendly

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atmosphere um in addition to uh this

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year um I came to County Council I

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believe it was in March of uh

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2024 where um the warden at the time

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actually awarded what I nicknamed the

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Frozen belt so what I did is I've gone

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out as a member of Def op and we've

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bought a uh literally a wrestling belt

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that we've completely done up uh

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specific to duffen County for the polar

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plch so what this belt is is the highest

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fundraiser for the event ends up winning

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this belt and they get a little uh

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replica belt that they get to keep last

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year and I think three out of the five

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years that we've actually run it a

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special Olympian has won the belt each

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and every time so and I can tell you

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right now I've been contact with his

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father he literally displays the belt in

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his room he carries it around he brings

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it to events and all that sort of stuff

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so it is a moment of Pride for him so

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this year we're officially announcing it

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where we'll be uh be presenting it on

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stage at the event to make sure that he

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gets the recognition that he deserves or

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whoever wins it my apologies and at a

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later date then we'll be awarding the

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smaller replica belt and so forth so

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last year I believe he raised over

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$5,000 just by himself which is

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incredible so and especially when on a

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grand scheme of things the whole event

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raised just over

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$188,000 so this year we're hoping to

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amp it up especially by having a

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collaboration with other family day

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events and hopefully we can make it

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another great

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success um last year as well we had

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close to 80 plungers so this year

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obviously we're looking for more um so

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again i' like to challenge everybody

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sitting at this table and to jump in

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again this year if you jumped in

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previously you know it's really not that

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bad and we're always looking at ways to

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make it a little bit easier on the

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plungers as well last year we had a wood

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burning sauna that was donated by Aaron

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Downey um this year I'm going to reach

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out to Aaron to see whether or not we

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can have it on site again but just

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logistically by having it at the

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agricultural grounds um I'm I've asked

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the shurn arena as as well to open up

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the change room so then that way there's

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also a shower option that if people want

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to change in the warmth get showered up

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and all that sort of stuff so then that

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that way they're not cold throughout the

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whole day so we're just looking at

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different amenities and so forth to kind

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of expand on it and if anybody at the

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table has any suggestions I'd be more

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than willing to hear about it um I

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believe the clerk has my email address

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feel free to shoot me off a message um

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and so again I want to challenge

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everybody at the table everybody that

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sits on the municipalities um and can

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send out uh flyers and all that sort of

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stuff to everybody at the table so then

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that way they can kind of broadcast it

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out to their different delegates um the

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website to sign up is polar plunge.

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CA duffrin

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and within that website as well you can

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either register or you can donate um so

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I would highly encourage people to

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register either as a team or as an

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individual you can be a team of one so

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if you decide that you're going to go

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with a certain team because we do uh do

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a bit of a costume contest both

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individual and team so if you decide

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that you want to register as a member of

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a team and your team's only one but

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you're going with a theme by all means

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we encourage it so um again I want to

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thank County Council for inviting me out

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here today and if there's any questions

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by all means I'd be more than willing to

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answer thank you Constable um any any

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volunteers for the duffan county team

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today they all look a little warm me but

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thank you for your presentation and I

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know you'll see some of us there

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excellent thank you so much appreciate

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it thanks from

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last Darren says he's still cold from

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year okay um is there anyone in the

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public gallery that has a question if

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you do please stand state your name and

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your

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address were there any

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questions here yes is that where I stand

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just you can stand here okay anyway my

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name is

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nisto I live on 2 po L9

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W5

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V1 okay the question I have today and I

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spoke to a lot of residents from the

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town of

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Orangeville unfortunately the town of

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Orangeville pass a budget with the 5%

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increase just a penny less but I say 5 %

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increase a lot of people they're not

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very happy with that here we standing

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here tonight so you have your your work

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cut out because you're also looking a

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5.6% increase so I hope this body here

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tonight will do their best to lower the

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budget I know I sat on this table for

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three years as a deputy mayor it's not

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an easy task but it can be done if you

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put your mind to it to get bring it down

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to zero so I leave it with that because

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a lot of people I can tell you in the

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town of or they not very happy thank

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you yes who are they I haven't heard

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from anybody not happy with well I can

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tell you you know you know what kind of

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work I

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do one person has gotten in touch with

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ha stylist I'm a hair stylist by trade I

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I don't I don't believe you well you

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don't believe in me why why you don't

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believe in me no one has complained

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about it General St were you in the

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place when they told me sorry folks this

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is an Orangeville exactly this is an

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Orangeville discussion and I but what I

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I brought to the attention over this

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party here today because you also

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looking at

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5.6% increase yes so that's what I'm

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looking and if you stick with the number

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you know what that means for the T of

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rville let's say you stick with the same

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numbers that means orange Ville is going

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to get hit with over 7% % increase

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that's a hallway sh thank you thank

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you thank you uh Gordon uh my name is

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David W I'm a Tanda in Orangeville U my

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question is kind of similar but I think

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sorry my not uh being heard uh similar I

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I would say you guys did a great job on

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the budget uh really bring it down being

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incredibly responsible and investing in

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what we uh have been underinvestigated

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not um but I think really the challenge

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that all of us are in but Orangeville

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more acutely um from my personal

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perspective relates to more of a

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structural um funding model uh challenge

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right so I don't know if you're

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comfortable doing this now or if you

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would be willing to State this later

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during the discussion but I would like

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to know how many of you or individually

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acknowledge that there's a funding model

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problem that needs to be fixed right and

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then if you acknowledge that proceed

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with the discussion and fix it right um

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but I think

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it's going to be challenging for all of

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you to have a meaningful discussion

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debate and make some decisions um when I

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think there's from my perspective in

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watching a lot of these meetings online

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um kind of a convenient denial that uh

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the challenge even exists uh in some

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cases and I think it's you got to call

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it out so that we can fix it um so

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whether you want to do that now or later

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I leave that to you but I think that

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personally I think is the problem that

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needs to be fixed and I uh look forward

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to um you doing that and I thank you all

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for your service I know it's it's a big

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job and I would appreciate you doing it

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councelor

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Garretts I just wanted to add that so

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I'm Chris Garretts from Township amaran

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and our Deputy Mayor Gail little is here

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we have a delegation with the Minister

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of Finance I sorry it's the

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Parliamentary assistant at Roma in a

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week and a half uh and the exact topic

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is the the problem with the the funding

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model so I think it's fair to say and

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you know that that amaranth for one

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recognizes that there's that there's an

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issue an an equity issue um and I'm I

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I'm confident in saying that yeah that's

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amar's position

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thank

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mlan yeah uh thanks for coming in thanks

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for the question I just wanted to be

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clear on like what aspect of the funding

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model do you have concerns with yeah gu

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primarily I I guess would be

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predominantly related to the uh the

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capital investment component of uh

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facilities right so I'm speaking to you

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know libraries in some cases also the uh

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community centers like Alder the rec

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center um you know there are others I

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mean right now obviously Tony Rose uh is

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a whole other Kettle fish uh that's

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going to be a big challenge um so I I do

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acknowledge certainly that there are

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contributions from an operating fees

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perspective um and in some cases you

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know higher than what Orangeville

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residents would necessarily contribute

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from an operating funding perspective

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but uh the the capital investment and

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also the corresponding costs either from

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a legal perspective or you know

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everything else that comes with it I

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have to imagine there's been some legal

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costs over at alter recently um you know

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that that's significant I'm not sure

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that's been captured uh sufficiently um

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again you guys would probably know

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better than me and I'm sure some of the

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other colleagues here would know even

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better than that but um you know when

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you look at the tax rates across

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municipalities and where where the costs

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sit versus where the people are versus

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where the land is and who has the

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capacity to grow um from a tax base

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perspective you know Orangeville got

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pinched from a from a landmass

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perspective um Inc capacity yet has the

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line share of both the operating costs

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and more significantly and acutely the

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uh the capital investment needs um

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without the corresponding commit

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sufficient ability to find the funds

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right and uh you know I think it would

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be a bit extreme to uh you know make the

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analogy that it's bit like Canada and

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the states and the conversation that

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Trump's having right now but uh there's

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a bit of a free riter effect I think

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that uh you know some people could uh

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you know run the risk of having that

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feeling and I don't think that's good

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for the community when you know that

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sort of Us Versus Them feeling and

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sentiment and resentment can uh has the

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capacity or the opportunity to start

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faster right I think we've got an

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opportunity now to nip it and uh I

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challenge you to do it and I I I know

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you will do your best and I hope you do

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thank you you uh councelor

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ni yeah I'm sorry to be a bit dense I'm

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still not quite clear on the problem

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you're identifying is it the share of

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taxes being paid by municipalities

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versus The Province or is it the share

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of taxes being paid by Orangeville

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versus the other municipalities in

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different counties I'm not quite sure I

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understand your

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point I mean respectfully um councelor

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Nicks uh if if you're not sure of the

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problem then that's that in itself is

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part of the problem um it should be

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self-evident I I don't mean to be

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disrespectful but it it should be clear

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um I'm not clear I'm not clear of what

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problem you're talking

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about okay I I'm sure up in the

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conversation well can't can't you just

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sure I mean tell me sure I mean I I just

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I want to be respectful of your time I

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think I'm probably already over but uh

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um it it would be the the portion like

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Orangeville has uh operating and capital

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costs related to its uh facilities right

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whether it's every municipality does not

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every municipality here has libraries

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not every municipality here has rec

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centers not every municipal here has

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other you know I could go on right we we

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I come from the town of mono sure we pay

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for Library services to Orangeville

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right which is what I we pay a higher

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fee for going to the swimming pool than

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Orangeville residents y I spoke to that

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before that's where I I openly

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acknowledge that you do contribute to

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the operating cost component which would

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be the staff in the building the heat

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the hydro so so put it in plain English

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what you're saying is the surrounding

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municipalities don't pay enough is that

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what you're trying to say I'm saying

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that when Tony Rose uh needs to be fixed

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knocked down uh replaced whatever answer

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question um yes the the cost to build

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the new facility whatever uh size shape

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or form it takes um somebody's got to

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build the building before you can

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contribute your component of the

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operating expenses right there there's

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got to be a building and a service there

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to begin with right and that's where

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Orangeville has paid more than their

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fair share for an awful long time so you

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are saying that the surrounding

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municipalities are not paying enough

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okay I understand you know yes than

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thank you councelor white thank you uh

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Warden uh so essentially there's two

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components to your your argument one

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that I don't think you're aware of and

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one that clearly you are aware of the

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first one that I'll talk about is uh

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there is a problem with the funding

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model at the upper levels of government

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and how they support or don't support uh

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municipalities and the fact that

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municipalities have to do 90% of the

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work on 10% of the money uh there is

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advocacy and discussion going on in

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all of our Municipal organizations Roma

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Western wardens Amo all of those groups

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are are having those discussions on what

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a better uh funding model looks like so

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some of that uh if that ever uh realizes

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any benefit some of that will be

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addressed in that uh but you know with

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regards to your other point um every

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municipality here pays for libraries

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it's just how do we do it uh in mangon

547
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,039
we pay into the shelburn Public Library

548
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,799
uh we do that with a a both a an

549
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:06,279
operating uh contribution and a capital

550
00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,279
contribution based on budgets that are

551
00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:11,000
set by that Library I would assume that

552
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,960
there's every different library has some

553
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,390
kind of agreement like

554
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760
that yeah that that's fair so I mean but

555
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,919
with regards to recreation centers fire

556
00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:27,000
departments all those things they're all

557
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,760
the same um from time to time those

558
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,039
Agreements are modified or exchanged or

559
00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:33,799
right now we're looking at fire and how

560
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:37,279
that works uh going forward uh if a time

561
00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,000
comes when we're going to discuss

562
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,240
libraries and whatnot or Recreation or

563
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,799
whatnot I mean those times will come

564
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,039
those that those discussions will be had

565
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,279
I think everybody around here at this

566
00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,720
table staff included all want to see a

567
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,640
better vibrant thriving Community um and

568
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520
uh you know but we can't do everything

569
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080
all the time at the same time so it's an

570
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,360
evolving conversation and I think

571
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:04,909
everybody supports having that

572
00:23:04,919 --> 00:23:08,000
conversation one last word just wanted

573
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,200
to just wanted to add similar to uh

574
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,480
counselor white amaranth p is operating

575
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,240
in capital to Grand Valley and shelburn

576
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,240
Rec Centers Grand Valley and and

577
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,559
shelburn libraries the reason we don't

578
00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,720
to Orangeville is because some time ago

579
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,000
a a previous Council we're going back

580
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,679
decades had us removed from those AR

581
00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:29,679
Arrangements so as a

582
00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:32,960
result Aman now is obligated to pay zero

583
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080
doar to the library and is obligated to

584
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,080
pay $ Z to your to the rec center for

585
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Orangeville that was not our decision

586
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,039
that was the town of Orangeville

587
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,200
decision at the time so just wanted to

588
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000
clarify that

589
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,600
appr thank you

590
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,799
sir okay um moving on and and it's great

591
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:57,120
to have some public involvement really

592
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,400
there's lots of days we go by here and

593
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240
uh there's nobody from the public um and

594
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,039
you wonder does anybody care but yes

595
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,919
people do care so thank you for for your

596
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:09,000
uh

597
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,159
questions uh number nine is a selection

598
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,960
committee for the homelessness task

599
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960
force uh the report from the clerk uh

600
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,120
dated January

601
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,679
9th so

602
00:24:22,679 --> 00:24:26,320
um are we needing any further discussion

603
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960
on this what we're asking for our at

604
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,320
least two individuals to be appointed uh

605
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,640
to the um selection

606
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,679
process do we Sorry I'd like to with

607
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:43,640
your permission nominate uh councelor

608
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,039
post for one of the positions councelor

609
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:48,159
post are you willing to stand yes

610
00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:49,720
absolutely thank you councelor

611
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,710
Garretts and is there anyone else that's

612
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,559
interested Lisa um I think it would be

613
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,000
appropriate for councelor mlan as the

614
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,440
new chair of Health and Human Services

615
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,200
so if he's willing I would love to

616
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,159
nominate councelor mlan to join me are

617
00:25:05,159 --> 00:25:07,399
you willing to stand councilor M I am

618
00:25:07,399 --> 00:25:10,799
thanks councel post uh any further

619
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,240
interest or is that uh that everybody

620
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,120
that's interested okay so um the motion

621
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,480
reads I need to mover in the seconder

622
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,000
then um moved by councelor Garrett

623
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,760
seconded by councelor Hall that the

624
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520
report from the clerk uh Cao

625
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,120
01225 selection committee homelessness

626
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,640
task force stated January 9th be

627
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,760
received and the selection process

628
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,159
outlined in the report be approved and

629
00:25:39,159 --> 00:25:41,880
that counselors post and mlan be

630
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,679
appointed to sit on the homelessness

631
00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:46,279
task

632
00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:48,480
force all those in

633
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,710
favor

634
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,600
carried okay uh the next item is

635
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,440
9.2 the CAO evaluation committee again

636
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,279
the report from the CAO dated January

637
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:07,120
9th um we have a a motion um that the

638
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,159
report be received and we need some

639
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:13,200
volunteers for the evaluation committee

640
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,750
is anyone interested in sitting on this

641
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,240
committee Warden Warden horer I'd be

642
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,360
interested in joining you on that

643
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,799
committee right councelor post you're

644
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,559
going to be

645
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,520
busy councelor

646
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,919
Mills I'd be happy to join

647
00:26:28,919 --> 00:26:32,799
both of you okay and we need one more uh

648
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,240
I don't know who to pick first let's uh

649
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,789
councelor little your hand I think I saw

650
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:43,080
first thank you yes I I would be uh

651
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,679
honored to be a part of that committee

652
00:26:44,679 --> 00:26:49,399
as well but uh you know if if uh we have

653
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:51,799
counselor Nicks as well so we have

654
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,840
everybody on this committee we actually

655
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,919
should just have four so um well we need

656
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:02,880
an election or what do we do no I'm I'm

657
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,799
quite happy if councelor little wants to

658
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,840
I will be sure to consult with councelor

659
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320
next as

660
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,360
well it's that's probably a good thing

661
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,559
councelor okay so

662
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,799
um did we get a move in a second

663
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,360
or okay so I need to move in a second

664
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:27,360
for this McAn and uh kelman that the

665
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,279
report from the chief administrative

666
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,279
office report CAO

667
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,120
20252 CAO evaluation committee 2025

668
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,320
dated January 9th 2025 be received and

669
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,559
that the following members be appointed

670
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:46,360
to the CAO evaluation committee for 2025

671
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:50,080
Warden Herer councelor uh post councelor

672
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,640
Mills and councelor little all those in

673
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,919
favor that one's carried okay

674
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,960
um the next uh

675
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,279
exciting item is the budget and I know

676
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,600
you're all just sitting on the edges of

677
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,080
your seats I know we have appreciated

678
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
the the questions that have occurred

679
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,240
before the um the budget process so that

680
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840
you can get some clarity on what you

681
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,360
read and you know sometimes it's not

682
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,720
easy to just figure out the numbers and

683
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840
and the intent so the questions were

684
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760
welcome and uh we appreciate those

685
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,080
questions ahead of time so Amy I'm going

686
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,679
to turn this over to you and um you can

687
00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:43,880
walk us through this actually excellent

688
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,470
document thank

689
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,760
you I'm just going to say one thing if

690
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,919
that's okay hor horer and that is just

691
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:54,000
um from a logistical perspective we

692
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240
thought uh in between each of the

693
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,799
committee presentations we would take a

694
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:01,440
five minute break and either after um

695
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,679
the infrastructure Environmental

696
00:29:02,679 --> 00:29:05,279
Services presentation or after the ggs

697
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,880
presentation we'll take a longer 20 to

698
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
25 minute dinner break so if that works

699
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,559
for everyone just so we all are clear on

700
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,120
what's Happening and uh now it's all

701
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,200
over to

702
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,039
Amy just just a second Amy before we

703
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,600
begin are you wanting questions as

704
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,799
you're presenting or do you want us to

705
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,760
wait until the end of each section

706
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,720
I actually cover that in the overview

707
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,640
section once I read through the overview

708
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,360
section I will let you know but pretty

709
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,240
much as you go through keep us in

710
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960
yeah okay so Sonia and I are kind of

711
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
working together here she's going to run

712
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,149
the

713
00:29:47,159 --> 00:29:49,159
presentation just waiting for it to come

714
00:29:49,159 --> 00:30:04,430
up on the screen

715
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,039
okay so I'm going to start with a

716
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,000
condensed version of the budget overview

717
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,919
that we had it in uh December before we

718
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:14,120
move into the Committees and I'll warn

719
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,399
you I have added a couple of slides to

720
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:17,760
the overview section that weren't

721
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,200
included in your

722
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,120
package so this chart summarizes the

723
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,000
20124 next slide Sonia 2024 and 2025

724
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,320
budget as well as our plan for 26 2027

725
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,480
and

726
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,480
2028 next slide although most of the

727
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840
slides today will include the 2026 to

728
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600
2028 plan we will be focusing on 2024

729
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,590
and

730
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,200
2025 at a high level this chart shows

731
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,960
that our 2025 total operating expenses

732
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,240
are 161 including Capital uh work is 161

733
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880
million a significant jump over 2024

734
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,480
mainly due to the larger capital

735
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,440
projects non Tech

736
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,919
tax revenue is $98 million which

737
00:31:00,919 --> 00:31:03,519
includes $22 million in debt to fund the

738
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,679
capital projects lastly we plan on using

739
00:31:06,679 --> 00:31:08,760
nearly $14 million in reserves and

740
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
development charges with over $10

741
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000
million going towards

742
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,159
Capital this is what we call the status

743
00:31:15,159 --> 00:31:17,480
quo budget it represents the cost to

744
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840
continue doing exactly what we

745
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960
do uh and it requires over $ 48.9

746
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240
million in tax levy which is an increase

747
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,149
of 1.5 million or 3.2% over

748
00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:33,799
2024 I think you skipped ah head Sonia

749
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,039
currently proposed uh we have $1.8

750
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,000
million in additions to the status quo

751
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,880
budget these

752
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000
include new positions with a value of

753
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,960
$413,000 previously committed of 295,000

754
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,200
and new to 2025 things we haven't seen

755
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,590
before of $1.1

756
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,200
million combine the status quo the the

757
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,870
status quo results in a

758
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
7.08% increase sorry I'm looking at I'm

759
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,320
looking at the screen I'm seeing 5.5 cuz

760
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,840
I'm looking at the far

761
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
side and when we take into consideration

762
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,760
growth we we leave leaves this at

763
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,399
5.6% which is approximately

764
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:21,870
$22.40 for each $100,000 of

765
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,159
assessment although the focus today is

766
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:28,159
2025 I would be remiss if I didn't yeah

767
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,799
if I didn't point out that 2026 2027 and

768
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,240
2028 show some significant increases

769
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240
these include the F year impact of items

770
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,159
proposed in 2025 such as the paramed X

771
00:32:39,159 --> 00:32:41,840
Edition uh and new staff they also

772
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,440
include future debt payments for

773
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,320
proposed borrowing we will need to do

774
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,080
renovations to this building as well as

775
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440
a new Operation Center and increase

776
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120
contribution to the housing strategy as

777
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,840
always the future years are estimates

778
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,600
and are subject to change but these are

779
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,960
our current projections

780
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
now I'm just going to summarize some of

781
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,559
the uh priorities that we have some

782
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,200
major initiatives and projects to

783
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,639
support the Strategic plan within

784
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:11,039
climate and environment we have the

785
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,240
better home retrofit program climate

786
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,279
master plan the county buildings energy

787
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:17,760
retrofit study that I'm just going to

788
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,559
put an aster on that we'll come back to

789
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,240
that later electric vehicle charging

790
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,000
station for County Fleet long-term Waste

791
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Management strategy update and audits

792
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,919
within the community priority we have

793
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:32,039
housing strategy implementation upgrades

794
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:33,559
and capital maintenance on the housing

795
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,760
stock paramedics Services master plan

796
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,230
additional paramedic shift in

797
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,919
shelburn under economy we have advancing

798
00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:46,039
the workforce strategy for early early

799
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:48,120
childhood Educators countywide Community

800
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Improvement plan investment attraction

801
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,639
program tourist to development and

802
00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:54,480
governance we plan to review the

803
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,120
committee meeting structure progress on

804
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,159
the new Operation Center Adel Brock

805
00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:02,159
Center improvements completing the

806
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:04,320
digital modernization projects and

807
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,480
fundraising and sponsorship plan for the

808
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,679
Museum of duffen and then lastly with

809
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,760
Equity getting implementation of the

810
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,280
older adult strategy Transit

811
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040
improvements countywide Community

812
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,919
Improvement plan investment attraction

813
00:34:16,919 --> 00:34:19,399
program tourist development indigenous

814
00:34:19,399 --> 00:34:22,480
education training so we have a lot of

815
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,800
different projects that we've kind of um

816
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,030
that we have on the go

817
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,839
and I just wanted to throw in a summary

818
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:35,200
of the proposed additions by category so

819
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,399
the bottom there adds up to $1.9 million

820
00:34:39,399 --> 00:34:41,839
which includes the

821
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:44,560
capital uh New Capital so the total

822
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
revenues are are $2.3 million expenses

823
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,440
are 4.9 with transfers net transfers

824
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,720
um of $710,000 and then capital

825
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,960
investment is 118,000 and that just want

826
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,800
to note that that's the net capital

827
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,400
investment am uh new new

828
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,150
stuff that's being funded by a tax

829
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680
levy

830
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,760
okay some other considerations today if

831
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,160
you're looking to reduce the tax levy um

832
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,480
there's really only a few ways you can

833
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,480
do that one is to increase revenues

834
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,599
which is very difficult in municipal

835
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:27,680
government second we can look at

836
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,200
increasing expenses but that too can be

837
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,800
difficult um and have future year

838
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,920
impacts you can certainly postpone or

839
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,040
remove specific projects for uh for

840
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480
future years or you can consider

841
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,560
changing service levels but often such

842
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,760
changes do take time and will not impact

843
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960
the current year very much if at all

844
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,200
these are typically more longer term

845
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
strategies we can create a list of these

846
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
items for future discussion today if we

847
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,640
want to you can also reduce the contrib

848
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,680
tion to Capital this doesn't necessarily

849
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,839
mean the removal of items from the work

850
00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:03,800
plan because generally that work still

851
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440
needs to be done and we've been raising

852
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880
money for it over the years it would

853
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
impact future uh work plans though

854
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,160
lastly you can also apply more

855
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,240
reserves I just want to note that 1% of

856
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,630
tax levy is approximately

857
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,079
$475,000 for each committee we will

858
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,520
review the Departments which it covers

859
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,480
and then Within for each division within

860
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,119
the department we will split out

861
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,680
revenues expenses expenses transfers

862
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,599
from reserves providing

863
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,119
highlights we will where appropriate we

864
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:39,440
will also highlight any proposed

865
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,599
additions before moving to moving on to

866
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,119
capital for that Division if at anytime

867
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,960
you do have questions or you would like

868
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,800
to discuss a particular item please let

869
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,119
me know I will do my best to pause but I

870
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:51,800
do have a tendency just to keep going

871
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,359
because there's lots to say so feel free

872
00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:56,839
to interrupt me and the other thing I

873
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:59,670
wanted to note

874
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,480
um Sonic can you go back a couple okay

875
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,359
or open up the other one just in the

876
00:37:04,359 --> 00:37:07,079
upper right hand corner of the slide it

877
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:08,920
does reference the page number within

878
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,440
the package where there's more detail if

879
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,240
you do want to go and look at

880
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,200
that so now we're going to move on to

881
00:37:16,200 --> 00:38:10,829
IES

882
00:38:10,839 --> 00:38:14,309
okay infrastructure and

883
00:38:14,319 --> 00:38:16,599
environment this committee only includes

884
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,520
public

885
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,960
works at the beginning of each

886
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,920
department can slide down a couple

887
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,720
slides

888
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,599
sorry um I Prov a summary showing the

889
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,839
status quo of each division So within

890
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:33,960
Public Works we have operations in Fleet

891
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,240
engineering climate energy facilities

892
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,119
Waste Services in County

893
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,680
forest they have a proposed 4.6% overall

894
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,359
increase and then the next slide shows

895
00:38:46,359 --> 00:38:49,870
the totals for each

896
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,119
division next

897
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,000
slide um including any proposed

898
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,750
additions so for for public works that's

899
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,800
6.9% this Capital um chart summarizes

900
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,640
the capital for the Department showing

901
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,280
the value of the proposed work in purple

902
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,040
the value of the capital asset Fund in

903
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,680
Orange and the required Levy in

904
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
blue I like this chart because it

905
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200
provides a nice summary of the capital

906
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,240
overall over 20 years and it reminds us

907
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,520
that we do look at the 20-year plan when

908
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,880
we're coming up with the levy

909
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,200
requirements

910
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
uh this includes roads and structures as

911
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,760
well as the adro center the courthouse

912
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Waste Services and operations and County

913
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,480
forest I want to note that this is based

914
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,240
on the information that we had at the

915
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,119
time recognizing that the roads and

916
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,280
structures will change as we finalize

917
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,800
our updated Capital plan in support of

918
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,119
the implementation of the road

919
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:53,109
rationalization

920
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,040
study okay let's move into the

921
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,589
individual divisions

922
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,960
operations and

923
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,430
Fleet

924
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,720
okay revenues are are down

925
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,990
52% are

926
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,800
$164,000 government transfers includes

927
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,640
an increase in Winter maintenance

928
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,359
revenues to better reflect actual of

929
00:40:20,359 --> 00:40:23,240
$10,000 and other revenue is a reduction

930
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,480
in staff and Equipment time essentially

931
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,880
that's their time spent on capital

932
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,069
projects

933
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,280
expenses the total increase here is

934
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,030
1.86% or

935
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,640
$115,000 public uh operations in fleet

936
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,480
has 21 full-time positions and 14

937
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,400
part-time winter seasonal

938
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,240
positions Staffing is not really down in

939
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,400
2024 or in 2025 it looks like it because

940
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,920
2024 we did include an extra amount for

941
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,790
the overlap of the operations manager

942
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,240
position additional highlights under

943
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,920
admin and office Consulting fees include

944
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,800
road safety reviews audits for

945
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,520
$20,000 increase in training to support

946
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,040
ongoing ongoing learning of Staff of

947
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,359
$1,850 we've added more staff over the

948
00:41:16,359 --> 00:41:18,760
last few years uh and the training

949
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,680
budget didn't reflect quite enough

950
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,359
within Service delivery we have service

951
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:25,119
and rental contracts as well as

952
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,800
materials for Bridges and Calvert

953
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,440
of

954
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,839
$999,000 roadside maintenance of 79 hard

955
00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:35,040
top and loose top maintenance of

956
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,359
$226,000 Safety Systems of just over

957
00:41:38,359 --> 00:41:41,400
680,000 which includes lime painting

958
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,160
Hydro for lights guide rail repair and

959
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640
winter control you go to the next slide

960
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,880
if you white and of $1.1

961
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,680
million and then it Communications we

962
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,839
shifted the annual fee for municipal 511

963
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,160
permit software from Service delivery to

964
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,599
software fees so it's not really an

965
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:01,800
increase

966
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520
there any

967
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,800
questions see none you moving on to

968
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,760
transfers um 2024 we included that

969
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
manager overlap which is why there's no

970
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,560
we had that coming from reserves and

971
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720
then the $775,000 is a transfer to

972
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,710
capital for future equipment

973
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,680
replacement moving on to proposed

974
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,480
addition the net for 2025 for operations

975
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,599
in Fleet is

976
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:35,240
$49,000 2026 2027 and 2028 see some

977
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,200
large increases as uh these relate to

978
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680
the new Operation

979
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,440
Center next

980
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,440
slide previously committed the thermal

981
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,760
Road Network mapping involves using

982
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,359
temperature data from sensors and

983
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:51,160
satellite imagery to access road

984
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,720
conditions which we which will identify

985
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,599
hot or cold spots in the road Network

986
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,520
resulting in the ability to optimize

987
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520
infrastructure management for safety and

988
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,920
efficiency and that is estimated $35,000

989
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,240
and is to be funded by the rate

990
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,800
stabilization plan

991
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,119
Reserve Fleet booking software it

992
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,079
enables users to reserve manage and

993
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:12,720
track vehicles in a shared Fleet

994
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,839
streamlining streamlining vehicle access

995
00:43:14,839 --> 00:43:17,640
and optimizing Fleet utilization Annual

996
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,240
fees are $10,000 uh we purchased this

997
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:25,270
software I think in 2024 using a

998
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480
grant and then the road Safety

999
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,720
Management soft software enables

1000
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,800
datadriven decisions making decision-

1001
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,800
making helps to reduce future collisions

1002
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,400
and promotes Public Safety through

1003
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400
efficient traffic management and policy

1004
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,880
enforcement implementation costs and

1005
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,079
annual fees are estimated 20

1006
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,400
G any question on

1007
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,079
those Council next yeah I'm just I'm

1008
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:52,640
having trouble keeping track of where I

1009
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,280
am but I know you've got in your budget

1010
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,520
you're going to borrow some money for

1011
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,319
the southern Operation Center I think

1012
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:01,640
about 20 $20 million I was curious and I

1013
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,000
I know it's just a plan now you haven't

1014
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,200
borrowed it but I'm curious um do you go

1015
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,040
to infrastructure Ontario for that money

1016
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,599
and do you have any sense of what uh

1017
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:12,839
interest you they they would charge you

1018
00:44:12,839 --> 00:44:15,280
now and what type of loan is it is it

1019
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,760
like a a mortgage loan where you pay

1020
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,839
back a fixed amount per month capital

1021
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:21,119
and interest over a certain number of

1022
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,359
years do do you have any details on how

1023
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:26,079
that loan works and if that's Maybe not

1024
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,240
maybe it's premature to be asking this

1025
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,280
I'm sort of curious because we sometimes

1026
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,960
have considered in the town of mono

1027
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,480
whether or not we could borrow money and

1028
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,920
so I'd be interested in as to how it

1029
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,680
works with infrastructure

1030
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,240
Ontario um through you Warden I did look

1031
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,040
into it in the fall and the rate at that

1032
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,520
point I think was four and a quarter I

1033
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,040
would assume that the rate has come down

1034
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,839
since then um there's options you can

1035
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:51,680
borrow so that you're only paying

1036
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,880
semiannually or you can pay quarterly or

1037
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,079
you can pay monthly my recommendation

1038
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,640
would be monthly because the interest

1039
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,920
costs will be lower over the long run um

1040
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160
when we do move to when we make the

1041
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,240
final decision to borrow then will come

1042
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,599
to council and we'll have a further

1043
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,280
discussion on what those options are and

1044
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,920
what the best rout is

1045
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,480
okay okay uh new to 2025 we include a

1046
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,440
guide rail inspection study which will

1047
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,280
be used to ensure the safety barriers

1048
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,800
are properly maintained identify areas

1049
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,800
in need of repair or Improvement and

1050
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000
prioritize resources to mitigate risks

1051
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,040
and protect Road users uh $60,000 this

1052
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,200
also will be funded from the rate

1053
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,480
stabilization

1054
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Reserve Road Patrol software is

1055
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,400
necessary for summer and winter

1056
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,839
patrolling as it helps track and manage

1057
00:45:38,839 --> 00:45:41,040
maintenance activities ensuring timely

1058
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,359
responses to weather related road

1059
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:45,359
conditions optimizing resource

1060
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:47,200
allocation for safety and enabling

1061
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440
compliance with minimum maintenance

1062
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,880
standards and with an annual fee of

1063
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
18,500 any question on

1064
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,280
those councelor mlan uh yeah I was just

1065
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,599
curious what is the road safety

1066
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,599
management software like what is that

1067
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:05,190
intended to

1068
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,400
do through you Warden um so that's the

1069
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000
software that we talked about the last

1070
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
council meeting um where basically what

1071
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,400
it allows us to do is to provide several

1072
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,200
inputs as well as geometry of an

1073
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,480
intersection and it can run through very

1074
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,079
quickly different modeling for different

1075
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,400
approaches different improvements or

1076
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,800
changes to an intersection for example

1077
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,920
so that we can come up very quick

1078
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,680
quickly you know we talk often around

1079
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,760
this table about whether an all stop is

1080
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,200
appropriate additional Lanes um those

1081
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,559
types of things and it just helps us do

1082
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:35,640
that much more quickly because we

1083
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,760
certainly are seeing um Road Safety is a

1084
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,440
priority for us it seems to be a

1085
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,240
priority for Council and it's a

1086
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,960
challenge to respond as quickly as we

1087
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,480
would like to and this will allow us to

1088
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880
do so okay thanks for clarifying that in

1089
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,240
my head for some reason I was thinking

1090
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,359
it was about tracking incidents or

1091
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,720
issues but I remember the conversation

1092
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,119
but to to that point it actually gives

1093
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:56,880
us direct connection to the province for

1094
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,880
cion data which currently takes a very

1095
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,440
long time to obtain and now we have

1096
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,910
realtime connection okay thank

1097
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,750
you understand Phillip you have a

1098
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,880
question thank you thank you I do it's

1099
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,200
about the guide rail inspection um is

1100
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,000
this generally not guide rails that are

1101
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,400
part of bridge

1102
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,440
structures because I'm under the

1103
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,559
understanding that's usually done

1104
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,680
through the OS study so is this are

1105
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,630
these other guide

1106
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,400
rails through you warden so typically or

1107
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,280
generally yes um the answer would be yes

1108
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,720
so right now in order to build our

1109
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,720
Capital plan in a in a structured way

1110
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,280
that's not only considering condition

1111
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,920
and improvements but also upgrades um so

1112
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,160
we do that for roads we do that for

1113
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Bridges we do not do that for guide rail

1114
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,720
we typically respond when there's damage

1115
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,160
um I've spoken with several members

1116
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,680
around this table over the years where

1117
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,559
the the standards for guide rail have

1118
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:00,280
changed we have no plan to respond to it

1119
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,839
it's simply we try to maintain what's in

1120
00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:04,200
place for as long as possible um until

1121
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,839
it can't be anymore and at that point we

1122
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,960
may upgrade to a steel post and and um

1123
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,480
cable and those types of systems that I

1124
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,520
think some of you have seen around the

1125
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,400
county so this will give us a similar

1126
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,520
sort of capital plan for how to actually

1127
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,760
handle it in a in a more proactive

1128
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,480
manner instead of us simply responding

1129
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,470
to

1130
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,760
damage anyone else

1131
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,710
seeing none carry on

1132
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,400
Amy okay shifting to Capital we will be

1133
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,160
drawing down on the capital asset fund

1134
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,680
uh for operations and Fleet over the

1135
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,800
next few years on the bottom

1136
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,160
line next Slide the there's a prior

1137
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,599
carry forward

1138
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,839
um essentially this is kind of the

1139
00:48:52,839 --> 00:48:54,240
difference between where we thought we

1140
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,920
were going to be at the end of 2024 and

1141
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,480
we actually may end up cuz it was still

1142
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,880
an estimate when we calculated the

1143
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,599
numbers but the $1 million is made up of

1144
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,960
um we have a sign maker of $10,000 that

1145
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,079
we're we didn't do in 2024 we're

1146
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,680
carrying it in 2025 guide rails of

1147
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,960
75,000 interior Renovations of 50 uh

1148
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,280
Transformer and electrical work of

1149
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,520
450,000 a rooftop unit of 15,000 carbon

1150
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,720
monoxide detector of 10 Trails of 25 two

1151
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,160
pickups of

1152
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,079
120 engineering equipment of 49 and then

1153
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,599
welcome signs of

1154
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:33,359
200,000 and then that equals about

1155
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:36,040
$11,000 and the difference is just some

1156
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:41,870
surpluses from completed

1157
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,599
projects there's a slight decrease next

1158
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:48,160
slide in the capital Levy over 2024

1159
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,319
before it starts um increasing and other

1160
00:49:51,319 --> 00:49:54,640
Revenue includes um yeah other Revenue

1161
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,359
includes $150,000 for the Avil of older

1162
00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:00,680
equipment as well as the $725,000 we saw

1163
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,470
being transferred from

1164
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,559
operating next debt financing is by far

1165
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,000
the largest number we will see in

1166
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,559
contributions the amounts in 2025 and

1167
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:14,520
2026 relate to the new Operation Center

1168
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,319
and a new sand salt Dome and Primrose it

1169
00:50:17,319 --> 00:50:18,400
should be noted that the future

1170
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,160
debenture costs for the building will be

1171
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,760
offset by development charges and we

1172
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,359
will also certainly be seeking any

1173
00:50:24,359 --> 00:50:26,400
grants that we can apply to bring down

1174
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,750
the amount we have to

1175
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,119
borrow moving on to the capital work

1176
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,760
plan the capital work plan includes over

1177
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,720
$24 Million worth of work for 2025 with

1178
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,240
3.5 million in regular work and over $20

1179
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,280
million we will consider in New Capital

1180
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,280
Investments some of the highlights of

1181
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,760
the different categories next SL under L

1182
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,640
improvements we have ongoing replacement

1183
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,319
of guide rails and intersection lighting

1184
00:50:54,319 --> 00:50:56,760
of 150 Grand

1185
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,599
next

1186
00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:00,960
one and the county welcome signs uh it's

1187
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,559
a $1 million project that we're

1188
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,069
spreading over five

1189
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:11,270
years won go

1190
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,839
down buildings we have extensive

1191
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:17,520
electrical work um to allow future

1192
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,040
charging of electric vehicles of

1193
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,280
$625,000 we have interior upgrades

1194
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,520
including updates the kitchen washrooms

1195
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,920
and storage space of 170 design work for

1196
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:35,270
replacement of the sand salt Doms of

1197
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,160
$800,000 just on the welome

1198
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,319
signs just on the welcome signs uh did

1199
00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:44,720
we not go through a process of uh of

1200
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,040
different

1201
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:52,910
signage in recent

1202
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040
memory Scott I think we're going to look

1203
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,400
at you on this one

1204
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,319
through you Warden uh absolutely so that

1205
00:51:59,319 --> 00:52:02,559
was um facilitated through the economic

1206
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,160
development team and we started to

1207
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,480
install signs around the county and then

1208
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,599
there was a slight pause due to some

1209
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:11,160
unforeseen circumstances and we're

1210
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,680
simply picking it up again so there's

1211
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,040
several locations where we haven't

1212
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,839
installed the signs that Council

1213
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,280
ultimately supported at that point in

1214
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,190
time

1215
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,440
thank U moving on to equipment and

1216
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,520
Machinery we have have um GPS and data

1217
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,040
collector to be replaced for $49,000

1218
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,599
which is carried over from 2024 and

1219
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,599
replacement of a loader for

1220
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:37,640
400,000 you might have noticed in your

1221
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,319
slide deck the vehicle section I seem to

1222
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:43,839
missed that um apologies on that we do

1223
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:46,280
have purchasing two snow plows at

1224
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,599
$440,000 each we have one patrol truck

1225
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:51,640
and two engineering trucks one of the

1226
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,280
engineering trucks is being carried over

1227
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,200
from 2024 it's already been ordered we

1228
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,640
just haven't received it yet

1229
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,280
and then the new capital Investments of

1230
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,760
course is the purchase of land and

1231
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,079
construction of the new Southern

1232
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,920
operations um Center cost or estimate

1233
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,640
just hang on there's a question the the

1234
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,160
vehicle one that's one of the questions

1235
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,240
I had asked and I did get confirmation

1236
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,559
just want to point out those are all

1237
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,319
Replacements there's no increase in any

1238
00:53:15,319 --> 00:53:18,119
fleets at all and no yeah okay

1239
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,839
thanks uh sorry the costs um on the new

1240
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:24,240
Operation Center as we we will keep

1241
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,040
probably reiterate is their estimates

1242
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,559
only we be further refined as we move

1243
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:34,309
into that

1244
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:37,240
project okay summarizing operations in

1245
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,040
Fleet the status quo budget is

1246
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,319
5.3% when you add in capital that

1247
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:45,280
becomes 4.8 which you won't actually see

1248
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
on any of these charts because I just

1249
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,960
didn't have time to switch them around

1250
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,640
so that you could see it um but with

1251
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,280
proposed additions the total increase is

1252
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,160
5.55% and any other questions or

1253
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,319
anything for operations and

1254
00:54:01,319 --> 00:54:07,829
Fleet none okay moving on to

1255
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:09,760
engineering other

1256
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,799
Revenue revenues are down $21,000 or

1257
00:54:14,799 --> 00:54:18,240
4.71% it includes this is essentially a

1258
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:22,079
transfer of capital transfer to Capital

1259
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,720
of Staff time spent on capital projects

1260
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:26,400
we've reduced it to better reflect with

1261
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,440
has actually been occurring other

1262
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Revenue also includes load permits of

1263
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,119
$50,000 and aggregate royalty revenue of

1264
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:34,880
about 80

1265
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,839
grand next

1266
00:54:36,839 --> 00:54:39,000
slide engineering is one of the few

1267
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,480
divisions where the expenditures are

1268
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,230
actually going down

1269
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:48,160
3.95% these salaries and benefits

1270
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,640
include five full-time positions in two

1271
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,760
summer students and the larger increase

1272
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,880
than regular is because they did add a

1273
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,839
position in 2024 and this is the full

1274
00:54:57,839 --> 00:54:59,799
full year impact of

1275
00:54:59,799 --> 00:55:02,359
it other highlights include within admin

1276
00:55:02,359 --> 00:55:04,920
in office

1277
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,119
oh sorry councilor ni yeah I may just be

1278
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:10,400
jumping ahead to the next slide but one

1279
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,559
of the things you've got down for for

1280
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,640
this is the road rationalization study

1281
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,559
and I just I I had I had thought we'd

1282
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,960
finish that Scott is there more work to

1283
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,839
be done on that study I thought we not

1284
00:55:22,839 --> 00:55:27,789
only finished it but we approved it

1285
00:55:27,799 --> 00:55:29,799
uh through you warden so yes the study

1286
00:55:29,799 --> 00:55:32,720
is complete it was adopted by Council

1287
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,319
staff were left to update the numbers

1288
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:38,119
which is what uh our Treasurer noted

1289
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:40,400
earlier that um we have yet to update

1290
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,760
our 10-year Capital plan because we want

1291
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,839
to have current numbers and there's also

1292
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:46,240
some funds being carried for setting up

1293
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,880
any agreements that are necessary with

1294
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,039
any of the local tier municipalities

1295
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,119
where we need to have them in

1296
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:56,480
place thank you the total we have set as

1297
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,079
is

1298
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:59,359
$65,000 which includes the legal fees as

1299
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:02,200
Scott had said um also in a minute

1300
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,960
office is $75,000 carry over for the

1301
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,039
climate risk assessment which started at

1302
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:09,760
the end of last year vehicles and

1303
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,079
Equipment uh will see a slight decrease

1304
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:20,630
as uh we transition to electric

1305
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,480
vehicles next SL yeah did that

1306
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,799
one oh go back transfers thank you

1307
00:56:27,799 --> 00:56:29,680
there's less Reliance on reserves in

1308
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,880
2025 which makes sense with the admitt

1309
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,000
and office expenses that dropped um from

1310
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,559
2024 we are using transfer from rate

1311
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,160
stabilization to offset the cost of the

1312
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,880
road rationalization study and the

1313
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,510
climate risk

1314
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,799
assessment proposed additions the net

1315
00:56:47,799 --> 00:56:49,960
for 2025 is only

1316
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,079
$16,000 which slowly increases in coming

1317
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:56,549
years

1318
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,480
uh next slide so I do have in my notes

1319
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,880
the entire kind of summary that is in

1320
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,480
the package for each of the different

1321
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,760
positions I'm happy to read that over

1322
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,079
again or if everybody's okay I can just

1323
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,400
skip it and get to the financial

1324
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,240
details okay I think they're okay okay

1325
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,200
um so the additional cost for this

1326
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,960
position uh to start in March of 2025 is

1327
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,160
$98,000 for salaries and benefits uh

1328
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,319
with an additional 14 ,000 in support

1329
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:29,760
cost for year one and then 11,000 year

1330
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,839
after the annualized cost of the

1331
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:33,000
position is

1332
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,920
$119,500 and the cost is offset by new

1333
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,960
fees for application Revenue estimated

1334
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,799
at $100,000 shown there under new to

1335
00:57:43,799 --> 00:57:46,520
2025 within the previously committed we

1336
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,319
have a as part of the ongoing digital

1337
00:57:49,319 --> 00:57:51,559
modernization project new asset and

1338
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:54,039
maintenance management software programs

1339
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:56,799
will be implemented in 2025 to allow for

1340
00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:59,000
better data management and Reporting the

1341
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,880
annual fees are for part of the year

1342
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,319
only it will be offset by reserves over

1343
00:58:03,319 --> 00:58:05,720
several years it be as we phase in that

1344
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,960
the cost the impact on the levy the

1345
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,760
total annual fees are approximately

1346
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,160
$120,000 with a net cost of

1347
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,960
2025 of

1348
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,760
13,360 to

1349
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,079
engineering I have exactly the same

1350
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:21,270
notes for both

1351
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:22,640
[Music]

1352
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,119
um courthouse uh for for facilities

1353
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,520
because facilities is sharing this and

1354
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,359
then also under Finance because we're

1355
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:30,720
we're using it so we're splitting the

1356
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,079
cost 40 40

1357
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:38,400
20% under new to 2025 is the um planning

1358
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,319
and revenue fees that are anticipated

1359
00:58:41,319 --> 00:58:43,480
through updates the bylaw fee the

1360
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,920
intention is that the revenue will

1361
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,680
offset that new position related to the

1362
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,160
application

1363
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,760
review um and then the second phase of

1364
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,559
the climate risk assessment we have in

1365
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,200
there to be funded from rate

1366
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,559
stabilization any questions on the new

1367
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,440
items in

1368
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,280
engineering councelor

1369
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,319
Taylor through you Warden I just think

1370
00:59:03,319 --> 00:59:05,599
it'd be a good idea if we quickly talked

1371
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,760
again about this position in particular

1372
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,640
and if Mr Burns could just chat again

1373
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,960
about what and why and it's important

1374
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,359
because this is a big part of the budget

1375
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:19,079
and I'd like to talk about each of them

1376
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:24,190
as we go through uh

1377
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,480
today um through you w so this one's

1378
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,520
pretty pretty straightforward um you

1379
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,440
you've heard us talk over the years how

1380
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,760
development is increasing and we have to

1381
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,200
perform development review and it's

1382
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,960
something that generally is done um by

1383
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,480
the engineering team somewhat side of

1384
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,160
desk we do have one person who is

1385
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,960
dedicated to that and um the manager

1386
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,000
also spends an extreme amount of time

1387
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,240
working on it as well and simply put uh

1388
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,599
with the resources we have we cannot um

1389
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:55,799
deliver within a reasonable time frame a

1390
00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:59,240
qual quality um set of comments so we

1391
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,359
put some work into looking at what we

1392
01:00:02,359 --> 01:00:04,119
would need which would be this uh

1393
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:05,880
individual this this position being

1394
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,119
filled and put a fair bit of work the

1395
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:10,079
team did a lot of work in the uh fees

1396
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:11,480
bylaw to ensure that we're capturing

1397
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,359
fees that previously were not included

1398
01:00:14,359 --> 01:00:16,240
and the $100,000 that's included in the

1399
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,440
budget as a revenue is is a conservative

1400
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,119
number um our estimates go as high as

1401
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,160
187,000 somewhere in that ballpark

1402
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,559
depending on the amount of development

1403
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:28,160
that we're seeing so we do expect this

1404
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,280
position to essentially be paid for

1405
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,240
through the work that it's doing and

1406
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,079
also providing a better service with

1407
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,079
respect to um turnaround because one of

1408
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:38,799
the delays um certainly I've said this

1409
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:40,599
before and not ashamed to to state it

1410
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:43,079
that um we we become part of the the

1411
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:45,880
delay in that overall um development

1412
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,880
application process for folks and we

1413
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,520
want to provide a better

1414
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,799
service just just a question Scott the

1415
01:00:53,799 --> 01:00:56,440
the person who would fill this job has

1416
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,079
what kind of skills or

1417
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:01,599
background through you Warden uh they

1418
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,319
would very likely be a certified

1419
01:01:03,319 --> 01:01:05,760
engineering technologist or an engineer

1420
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,480
who has background potentially in Urban

1421
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,960
Design um and maybe development

1422
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,160
construction those types of things so

1423
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,440
they'd be very well versed in the

1424
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,240
science behind development as well as

1425
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,000
the actual inner workings of

1426
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,960
construction and those types of things

1427
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,200
so similar skill sets to what we have in

1428
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,599
house we just don't have frankly enough

1429
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:30,630
of it

1430
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,920
okay anything further

1431
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,640
Todd I'm just thinking again and while

1432
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,880
we're all here whenever we go through

1433
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,280
the salary piece um you know it's such a

1434
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,079
personal thing but at the same time when

1435
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:45,039
I think about what you just described as

1436
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:46,880
who's qualified and then the

1437
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,520
difficulties we've had getting people

1438
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,319
again I always question are we going to

1439
01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:53,119
get

1440
01:01:53,119 --> 01:02:00,630
somebody because it feels like we're low

1441
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,960
um we shall see we're we're we're

1442
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,799
hopeful I mean we put a lot of energy

1443
01:02:05,799 --> 01:02:07,799
into reviewing what compensation should

1444
01:02:07,799 --> 01:02:09,520
be and and the total compensation

1445
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,599
package that the county can provide and

1446
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:14,400
um I think it's fair to say I'm looking

1447
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,359
I'm looking at uh director Thompson that

1448
01:02:16,359 --> 01:02:18,680
it's fair to say that we are much more

1449
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
competitive than than we once were and

1450
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:28,069
therefore we are hopeful yes

1451
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,960
yes ran if I can just add through you um

1452
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,559
Warden um just want to remind folks that

1453
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:38,119
from um from a wage perspective all of

1454
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:40,799
our positions go through a formal job

1455
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:43,400
evaluation process um and through that

1456
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,160
job evaluation process it gets graded

1457
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,720
and then there's a wage that's that's

1458
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,559
attached to it so it's not really up to

1459
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,520
um department heads to determine uh

1460
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,319
salary we do have a formalized process

1461
01:02:55,319 --> 01:02:59,750
for that

1462
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,319
anything

1463
01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:04,880
further yes Todd ever so quickly what

1464
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,520
will we do if we determine that we're

1465
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,279
low in the marketplace do we have

1466
01:03:09,279 --> 01:03:11,160
another fund or how do we go about that

1467
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,720
what do we

1468
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,430
do Rohan do you want to answer

1469
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,640
that so uh great question for you chair

1470
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,039
um so there's a couple of options uh for

1471
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,559
us to take take a look at uh one would

1472
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,920
be a review and revision of the actual

1473
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,279
um

1474
01:03:32,279 --> 01:03:36,279
job um the job description uh to see if

1475
01:03:36,279 --> 01:03:39,760
whether or not all the required skills

1476
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880
qualifications all that sort of stuff

1477
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,559
really ma match what we're what we're

1478
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,880
requiring uh so that's that's one thing

1479
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,960
for us to look at um the other thing I

1480
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,240
think more broadly uh for the county to

1481
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,160
to take a look at Council to take a look

1482
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,160
at um is sort of the the the the

1483
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,359
challenge that we're up against in terms

1484
01:04:00,359 --> 01:04:03,920
of competition right for talent and so

1485
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,920
folks will recall that uh when we did

1486
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,240
our last wage market review um Council

1487
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,240
approved that um against our comparators

1488
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,520
to to come in uh at the 55th percentile

1489
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,480
and I understand that that um

1490
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,119
historically was above uh what the

1491
01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:22,079
county uh normally did I believe we came

1492
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:24,760
in normally at the 50th percentile um

1493
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,559
and so um in this in this budget package

1494
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,920
uh proposal this year uh folks will note

1495
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,160
that there

1496
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,400
is uh monies in in the budget to to

1497
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,400
conduct another wage market review this

1498
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,680
year we had agreed to do that on a on a

1499
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,039
four-year period uh but Council um at

1500
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:44,440
that point in time will have the

1501
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,440
opportunity to decide if whether or not

1502
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,799
we want to continue uh at the 55th

1503
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:52,279
percentile or if Council would like to

1504
01:04:52,279 --> 01:04:55,760
um increase that percentile um to from

1505
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,920
to help make the county be a little bit

1506
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,000
more competitive from a total

1507
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,279
compensation perspective in the uh

1508
01:05:02,279 --> 01:05:05,200
Recruitment and talent uh

1509
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,160
peace councelor

1510
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,160
McAn um thanks for that answer you may

1511
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,359
have addressed my question I'm just

1512
01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:13,279
going to ask it anyway just in case um

1513
01:05:13,279 --> 01:05:15,520
so a lot of employers will have pay

1514
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,880
bands right with uh a minimal salary and

1515
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,480
an upper salary and then there's room

1516
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,920
for the Department to negotiate in

1517
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,960
between um the the figure so this is a

1518
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,160
general question but I just want to use

1519
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,720
the development reviewer as an example

1520
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:55,670
so the

1521
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,000
that's fine I'm just trying to wrap my

1522
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,910
head around

1523
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,920
process um I can actually answer that

1524
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,880
question we budget at the middle of the

1525
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,799
grade because that typically in it's

1526
01:06:07,799 --> 01:06:09,599
it's a guess right sometimes the people

1527
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,200
come in lower some people come in higher

1528
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,880
so when we budget we budget the middle

1529
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,960
and then in the next year we adjust

1530
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,269
depending on where they

1531
01:06:19,279 --> 01:06:22,880
land councelor Nick yeah I appreciated

1532
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,640
councelor Taylor's questions but I

1533
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,200
thought I heard at the beginning

1534
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,839
that he declared a conflict of interest

1535
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:30,640
if any subject of salaries comes up

1536
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,559
didn't isn't that what you said Todd or

1537
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:35,240
maybe I misheard but I thought I heard

1538
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,510
him say he had a conflict of

1539
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,640
interest I thank you for bringing that

1540
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,119
forward I do have a conflict of interest

1541
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:46,240
however I think over um certain

1542
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,920
positions it's my right as a counselor

1543
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,839
to ask questions about hiring so I will

1544
01:06:50,839 --> 01:06:52,720
do so if you'd like to file something

1545
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:58,870
you're welcome to do so I I just I

1546
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,559
miss when there's a vote I will not be

1547
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:03,400
voting on salary

1548
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,599
increases Sonia can you give us some

1549
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,200
clarity just on this so we're

1550
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,839
clear uh as

1551
01:07:10,839 --> 01:07:14,440
to whether this is an issue at this

1552
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,760
moment what is an issue the conflict of

1553
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,119
interest in In fairness Madam I I

1554
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:21,400
don't think that's a fair question to

1555
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,230
ask

1556
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,440
Warden I think it's it's up to me and if

1557
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,079
people in the room disagree with the way

1558
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,799
I'm conducting myself they can they'd

1559
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:34,039
have to file with the Integrity

1560
01:07:34,039 --> 01:07:36,000
commissioner but my intention is to

1561
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,640
continue to ask questions and

1562
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,400
participate in it when there's a vote

1563
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,200
you will not be particip there vote I

1564
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,799
will not be

1565
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:45,990
voting

1566
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,160
okay can we um keep going then any more

1567
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,150
questions on this

1568
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,640
person just a quick question on what the

1569
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,160
annualized salary is because there's two

1570
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,960
different numbers the one on the slide

1571
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:02,200
deck is 112 and the one in the budget

1572
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,200
documents is 119 is the 119 the accurate

1573
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,599
figure the 112 on the slide deck is the

1574
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:11,839
cost for

1575
01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:15,559
20125 and the 119 is the annualized cost

1576
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:19,600
so 2025 is only the 112 is for Mark from

1577
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,719
March to December okay understood thank

1578
01:08:21,719 --> 01:08:26,829
you

1579
01:08:26,839 --> 01:08:29,159
else no go ahead then

1580
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:32,199
Amy okay uh so no other questions on the

1581
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:36,749
proposed addition so we can move on to

1582
01:08:36,759 --> 01:08:39,040
Capital similar to other divisions we

1583
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,199
see a value of the capital asset fund

1584
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:42,880
decrease over the next few years before

1585
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,709
it starts to increase

1586
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:49,520
again next

1587
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,120
Slide the prior year carry forward

1588
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,000
includes

1589
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,040
$320,000 for a covert that we shifted um

1590
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,799
into a future year some payment

1591
01:08:57,799 --> 01:09:00,600
preservation work and design work for

1592
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,040
future stru future structure replacement

1593
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,839
and

1594
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,440
Roads and the balance of savings from

1595
01:09:06,440 --> 01:09:09,550
2024

1596
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,520
projects moving on to Capital

1597
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,640
contributions engineering is one of the

1598
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,560
very few divisions that have dedicated

1599
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,640
government transfers for Capital we have

1600
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,120
included Canada community building fund

1601
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,440
of

1602
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:25,679
2,699 25 and the antario Community

1603
01:09:25,679 --> 01:09:30,550
infrastructure fund of sorry

1604
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,120
$734 um we were actually expecting a

1605
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,040
decrease in the oif and we did get an

1606
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,440
increase and we included that in the

1607
01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:40,370
budget other

1608
01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:46,430
[Music]

1609
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:50,040
contributions no too far oh go back up

1610
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,080
one more it's touchy um other Revenue

1611
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,560
includes contributions from from

1612
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,960
Developers for second line and duff duff

1613
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,719
Road 109 realignment we have transfers

1614
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,800
from rate stabilization incl rate

1615
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,560
stabilization Reserve included for the

1616
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,520
environmental assessment of duffen Road

1617
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,880
109 and lastly we have some development

1618
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,719
charges for duffen Road

1619
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:13,800
25 moving on to Capital work we have

1620
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,600
$1.1 million planned work for

1621
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,000
engineering next slide this includes uh

1622
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,760
carryover the environmental assessment

1623
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,480
for duffen Road 109 of 600,000 which is

1624
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,000
to be funded from reserves as the actual

1625
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,960
cost is still to be determined the

1626
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,760
design and investigative work for second

1627
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,000
line and Def Road 109 realignment of

1628
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,199
1.05 million design and invest

1629
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:41,199
investigative work of Road 109 for 2026

1630
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:45,159
work and resurfacing of 13.7 km of duon

1631
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:49,400
Road 25 at a cost of $6.5 million this6

1632
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,080
and a half does include a million do

1633
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,800
approximately a million dollars for the

1634
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:57,709
addition of buffer Bike Line bike

1635
01:10:57,719 --> 01:11:01,000
planes structures includes work on uh

1636
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,719
four culverts at a cost of 2.38 million

1637
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:06,640
futuree design work of

1638
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,560
$132,000 and small structural repairs of

1639
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,040
102 just a question Amy do you think uh

1640
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,800
Premier Ford will be coming after our

1641
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,470
bike

1642
01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:22,560
lane I'm not answering

1643
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,080
that um summarizing engineers wrench has

1644
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:32,950
a

1645
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,719
question thanks um I I actually I

1646
01:11:35,719 --> 01:11:37,280
actually have a serious question about

1647
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,360
bike Lanes um and I'm curious Beyond 25

1648
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,239
being a county

1649
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:47,800
road is is there could could uh Somebody

1650
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,600
explain why we would put bike

1651
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,760
Lanes there and not on another road that

1652
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,960
perhaps has less traffic and or provides

1653
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:01,960
much more

1654
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:09,189
Scenic uh views and and a

1655
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:12,719
ride Mr Burns would you like to answer

1656
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:16,080
this glad to um through you warden

1657
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,480
so um it's it's kind of a point of you

1658
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:21,440
need to start somewhere so years ago

1659
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,000
when we started doing the pave shoulder

1660
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,679
program which can be used for multiple

1661
01:12:24,679 --> 01:12:27,239
things including cycling there would be

1662
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:29,120
sort of seemingly random parts of the

1663
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,719
road Network where you happen to be

1664
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,280
doing Capital work and you would build

1665
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,480
the shoulders out in line with the

1666
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:35,360
standard of the day that was articulated

1667
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,719
through the duffing County active

1668
01:12:37,719 --> 01:12:40,679
Transportation Trails plan so we did

1669
01:12:40,679 --> 01:12:42,159
that now it's starts to look a fair bit

1670
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:43,239
more normal because those things are

1671
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:44,760
actually interconnected amongst one

1672
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,520
another this particular piece and even

1673
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,159
the additional width is coming from the

1674
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:51,159
approved Transportation master plan that

1675
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:53,239
came through as part of the U Municipal

1676
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:55,639
comprehensive review that you may recall

1677
01:12:55,639 --> 01:12:57,560
and it gave us guidance as to where we

1678
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,000
should be doing certain types of work um

1679
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,440
around active transportation and this is

1680
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:05,239
one of those examples so it is from Duff

1681
01:13:05,239 --> 01:13:07,480
from Road 10 to 89 so it is kind of an

1682
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:09,159
isolated portion but that's a portion of

1683
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:10,679
road that we are working on that calls

1684
01:13:10,679 --> 01:13:12,600
for this and therefore it is the right

1685
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,960
time to do it um but it is important I'm

1686
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,840
glad that council is aware that this

1687
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,679
additional work is going to cost

1688
01:13:20,679 --> 01:13:22,199
approximately a million dollars on top

1689
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:24,000
of what that that project would would

1690
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,400
regularly cost we're going from

1691
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,120
approximately a 9 M wide platform to a

1692
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,400
12 or 12 and 1/2 meter wide platform um

1693
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,639
so this is kind of the first piece of or

1694
01:13:34,639 --> 01:13:36,800
element of the uh Transportation master

1695
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,480
plan that we're implementing and I'm I'm

1696
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:39,960
I'm glad that everybody's becoming aware

1697
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,199
of it because if anybody wants to have

1698
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:42,679
any further discussion on it now would

1699
01:13:42,679 --> 01:13:46,149
be the

1700
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:49,750
time councelor

1701
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,040
Garretts Phil are you finished or would

1702
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,880
you like to carry

1703
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,440
on he if if I might just a clarification

1704
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:01,280
the the cost isn't

1705
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,000
really my biggest

1706
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,800
concern it's it's whether or not that's

1707
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,760
the most appropriate place to put a bike

1708
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,320
lane and I'm going to reference a

1709
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,520
conversation that we had in 2024 about

1710
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,880
traffic in meanon with horse and Buggies

1711
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,639
and where it's going um and I I'm just

1712
01:14:22,639 --> 01:14:24,679
I'm just not sure if putting a bike lane

1713
01:14:24,679 --> 01:14:27,639
on a County Road from a safety

1714
01:14:27,639 --> 01:14:30,239
perspective is the best

1715
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:34,480
idea go ahead scun through you Warden um

1716
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:36,080
so so that would

1717
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,719
be um what would be driving the design

1718
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:41,239
here so I I'll try to describe it as

1719
01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:42,719
best I can so you'll have your your

1720
01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:44,639
typical traveled portion of the road

1721
01:14:44,639 --> 01:14:46,800
with the center line and the white fog

1722
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,400
lines um so if we look at one side of

1723
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,520
road you've got your Center Line your

1724
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,000
white fog line and then approximately

1725
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,679
ballpark a meter from there there'll be

1726
01:14:54,679 --> 01:14:56,840
another white line and beyond that white

1727
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,560
line is where the bike lane is so it's

1728
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,639
actually buffered from the the traveled

1729
01:15:01,639 --> 01:15:04,400
portion of the road intentionally such

1730
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,960
that it can function well even in a

1731
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,520
situation where there might be increased

1732
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,679
traffic and that is the standard of the

1733
01:15:10,679 --> 01:15:12,159
day that seems to be working in many

1734
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:13,840
locations because there is a real push

1735
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,400
to have

1736
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,320
interconnectivity um between settlement

1737
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,760
areas essentially everywhere and

1738
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,239
depending on what the road is um you'll

1739
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:24,600
see that kind of a structure come out

1740
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,760
whereas some of them still call for our

1741
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,600
standard pave shoulder width which um

1742
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,440
would be on a lower volume road so in

1743
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:34,280
short the specific response the geometry

1744
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,880
of the response is in line with um

1745
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,440
contemplation towards safety on that

1746
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:44,030
particular

1747
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,080
Road okay um councelor Garrett's next

1748
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,080
and then councelor white yeah just just

1749
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,639
quickly for Mr Burns is there a plan

1750
01:15:51,639 --> 01:15:53,800
then in the tenure Capital to do the

1751
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,520
southern portion so that so that it goes

1752
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,520
all the way to Grand Valley yep so so

1753
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,040
through you Warden yes so any time that

1754
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,639
we would and I can't recall you have to

1755
01:16:02,639 --> 01:16:04,120
forgive me I don't remember the all of

1756
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,800
the details of the maps that are within

1757
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,159
the transportation master plan but our

1758
01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:10,480
intent would certainly be to not leave

1759
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:14,000
it as an island and I am 100% confident

1760
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,600
that the transportation master plan did

1761
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,199
not ask for it to be an island so it it

1762
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,199
it will be over time you'll see that

1763
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:23,149
whole Road be built

1764
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:27,440
out thank you white thankk you um I mean

1765
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:30,480
I struggle a little bit with this given

1766
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:33,760
the section I mean 10 10 to 89 I travel

1767
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,440
that road a lot I mean Philip's right I

1768
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,120
mean it's not the right spot for one I

1769
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,400
don't think and I don't think you would

1770
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,719
ever get any use or anybody would take

1771
01:16:43,719 --> 01:16:46,679
use of it and when you look at if if

1772
01:16:46,679 --> 01:16:48,360
you're talking about interconnectivity

1773
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,400
of

1774
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,600
communities there's there's no Community

1775
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,400
to interconnect to going north out of

1776
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,360
there you go up and you go up as far as

1777
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,679
89 there's no communities along 89

1778
01:16:58,679 --> 01:17:00,840
unless you're in shelburn I would think

1779
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,560
that money would be better spent the the

1780
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,159
the nice bike ride and the where you

1781
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,120
would get a lot of use would be south of

1782
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,760
10 down to 109 um which is down the road

1783
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,840
somewhere I I so I struggle with that

1784
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,600
and and I struggle with it because we

1785
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,600
just there's been a fair bit of County

1786
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,239
Road work done in mton recently knowing

1787
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,040
the issues we have around menites and

1788
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,840
whatnot and none of that type of stuff

1789
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,000
was considered for those stretches so

1790
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,040
you know and even up there I would I

1791
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,360
would struggle with some of it in some

1792
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,760
of the areas but not in others so I I

1793
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,199
don't I don't know if that's the right

1794
01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:40,320
spot to spend a million dollars on a on

1795
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,000
a bike Lan

1796
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,719
thanks go ahead uh through you warden so

1797
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:48,400
so certainly and that I'm glad we're

1798
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,800
talking but it again the the reason that

1799
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,320
it's that piece is because we're there

1800
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,400
doing Capital anyhow so to come back to

1801
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,800
it at some future date would be um much

1802
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,679
more costly it wouldn't be the same

1803
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:04,440
quality um etc etc so if we were going

1804
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:06,440
to do it we would we would do it when

1805
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:08,800
we're Paving that out and ultimately

1806
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,440
over time the whole Road would receive

1807
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,639
that treatment so it is simply a

1808
01:18:13,639 --> 01:18:15,800
starting point in isolation does it look

1809
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,239
odd yes if we left it simply as that

1810
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,159
Island yes that would be a strange

1811
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,400
decision but that is not the intent but

1812
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,400
certainly if Council wanted to change

1813
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,080
the direction on something as to whether

1814
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,040
or not we're building out 25 um we could

1815
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,760
do that this is simply the the starting

1816
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,120
point as far as interconnectivity goes

1817
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,480
um you know I mentioned settlement areas

1818
01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:36,920
and those types of things it go it goes

1819
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,159
farther than that there are a lot of

1820
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,600
people the the networks for cycling go

1821
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,960
far beyond simply you know Orangeville

1822
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,760
to shelburn for a lot of people and I

1823
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,360
think that's the overall intent for

1824
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,840
things is to have the bulk of um sort of

1825
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,080
easy access routes accessible for

1826
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,960
cycling um and this is simply part of

1827
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,199
that so again this came through all the

1828
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:58,080
consultation from the TMP um was adopted

1829
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,880
by Council which is why this is here and

1830
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,360
and again I'm very glad that we're

1831
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,480
talking about

1832
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:06,480
it councelor white thanks thanks Warden

1833
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,520
um yeah I I I understand the logic and I

1834
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,440
don't disagree with any of the logic but

1835
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,360
where I struggle with is the life cycle

1836
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,679
of that pavement is what 20 years going

1837
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:18,800
to be

1838
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,280
20 um with with the the way that we're

1839
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,920
taking care of our roads now we may see

1840
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,040
some roads that go beyond that yeah um

1841
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,560
for a period of time we're seeing 12 to

1842
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,480
15 years and now we're we're we're

1843
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:30,600
expecting to see 20 25 years maybe even

1844
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,400
more in some cases particularly because

1845
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,320
we have preventative maintenance

1846
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,360
programs when we're doing multi-lift

1847
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,760
asphalt we can go back and the next

1848
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,639
Capital cost is far less because it's a

1849
01:19:39,639 --> 01:19:41,360
a peel and pave as opposed to a full

1850
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,080
reconstruction Etc so that's a long

1851
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,560
answer but so the point of my question

1852
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,480
would be if we're assuming 20-year

1853
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:49,520
lifespan I don't I don't see a need for

1854
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,679
it 20 years from now either so you know

1855
01:19:52,679 --> 01:19:54,480
that's sort of where my thought process

1856
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:58,480
is with that just my thought councilor

1857
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:01,679
mlan yeah thank you um and I can

1858
01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:03,480
appreciate the position you're in Scott

1859
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:06,080
because I think uh the reason that you

1860
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,360
have put this in the budget was because

1861
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,400
it went through the MCR process so it

1862
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,239
was informed through a process that was

1863
01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:16,400
also approved by this Council so um

1864
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,719
you're not pulling this out of your hat

1865
01:20:17,719 --> 01:20:18,960
you're going by a plan that's been

1866
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,679
already approved so I want to recognize

1867
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:23,159
the position you're in but I do I do

1868
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:24,320
agree with the comments that were made

1869
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:25,199
that this

1870
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:28,239
um on first blush doesn't seem to make a

1871
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:29,760
lot of sense in terms of where we might

1872
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,360
want to allocate our resources from a

1873
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,960
priority standpoint um I know that when

1874
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,440
we've had broad discussions not just

1875
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,360
with you but with with everyone we

1876
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,159
talked about widening roads where there

1877
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:43,040
are more slow moving vehicles and there

1878
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,719
there was a the question was always

1879
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:46,199
raised around whether we had the funding

1880
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:48,679
to do it um and here we've got some

1881
01:20:48,679 --> 01:20:51,199
funding to do a large stretch that to me

1882
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:53,600
doesn't seem to um have a lot of slow

1883
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,560
moving vehicles on it so I would agree

1884
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,199
with councelor white Council wrench that

1885
01:20:58,199 --> 01:20:59,920
perhaps there might be an opportunity to

1886
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:01,480
save a little bit of money on this

1887
01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:04,080
project um I agree I don't even see in

1888
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,280
in 20 years or 10 years that we would

1889
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,159
even need to go back and add this Lane

1890
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:10,760
in but um I think this is one

1891
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,320
opportunity where we could potentially

1892
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,719
reinvest into other areas of the

1893
01:21:15,719 --> 01:21:21,199
county thank you Amy um if I may I just

1894
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:24,920
uh wanted to say because of gas tax

1895
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,639
money and development charges if we were

1896
01:21:27,639 --> 01:21:29,880
to reduce this project by $1 million we

1897
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,910
would only save $100,000 of tax

1898
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,120
levy so

1899
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,400
Garretts but Amy if we were to use it in

1900
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,840
another location that would we would

1901
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,679
realize

1902
01:21:46,679 --> 01:21:49,679
the rather than cutting it it it just

1903
01:21:49,679 --> 01:21:51,239
switching locations which I think is

1904
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:52,840
what some people are suggesting that

1905
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,199
would

1906
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,080
the gas tax could still be used for that

1907
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:02,840
project uh yes it could um we only have

1908
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,480
this is the only project we have gas tax

1909
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:07,159
applied to in 2025 it's the only project

1910
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:09,080
but yeah we could use the gas tax in

1911
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,120
future years I understand the concerns I

1912
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,480
understand why we're doing it like the

1913
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:14,960
efficiency of doing it while we're doing

1914
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,480
the road work so I think that's great

1915
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,360
where I struggle a little bit is doing

1916
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,159
that in the same year we're we're doing

1917
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:24,000
an active Transportation master plan

1918
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,040
because it's

1919
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,480
and I understand why you're doing it but

1920
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:28,000
but it could be that the trans the

1921
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,840
active Transportation master

1922
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:34,000
plan uh doesn't see a need for for bike

1923
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,480
Lanes in that

1924
01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:38,280
location um and then there is the

1925
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,400
council mlim brought up and I I did get

1926
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,639
a nudge and a whisper from counselor

1927
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:43,960
Hall there there have been other

1928
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,320
locations where uh safety concerns

1929
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,840
related to Traffic such as the slow

1930
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,880
moving vehicles and some

1931
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,800
sidewalks um

1932
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,400
potentially could the money could be

1933
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,800
used for some of those projects so I'm

1934
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,800
struggling with this one but the I just

1935
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,440
um with can you speak to why we would do

1936
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:07,040
it ahead of the active Transportation

1937
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,149
master

1938
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,960
plan uh through you warden so the

1939
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,719
transportation master plan touched

1940
01:23:17,719 --> 01:23:21,120
on primary routes I I forget the exact

1941
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,719
terminology but generally looked at some

1942
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:25,600
primary routes for active transportation

1943
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,040
um that would then inform further

1944
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,120
details in a reconstruction of a new

1945
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,920
active Transportation plan so the

1946
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,159
intention there would be that the

1947
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:37,920
elements from the Transportation master

1948
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,760
plan would stay um and it would it would

1949
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,360
build on that of course that is to the

1950
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,280
discretion of of council absolutely I

1951
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,800
just want to make it clear also that if

1952
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,480
we choose to not do this particular

1953
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,760
piece we are actively changing the

1954
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,440
routing of the current trans

1955
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:56,560
Transportation master plan and the

1956
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,239
vision that it was built on which at

1957
01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:00,360
this moment I can't recite all of the

1958
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,239
parameters that it came to its

1959
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:04,239
conclusions on but it would have it

1960
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,800
would have included a look at local a

1961
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,400
look at provincial look at all of these

1962
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,120
things to try to build a fabric and if

1963
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,320
we start to make if we make a decision

1964
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,360
tonight on this I just want to make sure

1965
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,040
that we're not subjectively applying

1966
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,320
those those studies so maybe it means a

1967
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,000
fundamental shift to that particular

1968
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,000
route maybe it's off I'm not exactly

1969
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,320
sure how we deal with that maybe that's

1970
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,159
a future discussion but it does have the

1971
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:30,120
potential to change a lot of things that

1972
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,440
we thought were

1973
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:34,600
decided I just I do I am hearing some

1974
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,639
significant concern on this item though

1975
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:38,679
could I just add one other thing with

1976
01:24:38,679 --> 01:24:41,880
just anecdotally I think it will be used

1977
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,119
well used because you know living in the

1978
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:47,280
area there there are a lot of bike users

1979
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,080
east west across County Road 10 that do

1980
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,199
go uh North I don't know where they're

1981
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:53,800
going to in the north but they do go

1982
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:54,880
north on

1983
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,840
125 so so yeah and maybe it's just a

1984
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,480
loop but I I think it will be used like

1985
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:01,159
it's used the roads used now I don't

1986
01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:03,920
know if the folks from Grand Valley uh

1987
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,880
or if you even have any numbers but you

1988
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,600
you know you do see bikes there so I

1989
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,199
think it'll it will be used but it's I

1990
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:11,760
have the same concerns as everybody else

1991
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,600
and maybe it's not the best and that's

1992
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:14,960
where I struggle

1993
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,119
because it's the efficiency of doing it

1994
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:18,960
when we're doing the road work so I'm

1995
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,199
not I'm

1996
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:22,760
torn

1997
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,679
Scott um and might it might be a case of

1998
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:27,159
if you build it they they will come

1999
01:25:27,159 --> 01:25:28,639
which is a lot of you know active

2000
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:30,600
Transportation but but Warden Herer

2001
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,520
absolutely I'm not I'm not trying to

2002
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,080
just simply defend keep I just want

2003
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,080
Council to be aware of of the domino

2004
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,600
effect that this will create it'll have

2005
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,760
to be an Engaged conversation at some

2006
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,920
point likely through the active

2007
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,719
Transportation plan where we would

2008
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:46,520
intentionally rejig this particular

2009
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,920
route and acknowledge that we've changed

2010
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,719
it that that that's

2011
01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:53,000
all councelor

2012
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,880
Mills thanks

2013
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,320
more of a technical question just in

2014
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,440
terms of of funding Amy a couple of

2015
01:25:58,440 --> 01:25:59,639
minutes ago you had mentioned that this

2016
01:25:59,639 --> 01:26:01,639
was the only project that that we had

2017
01:26:01,639 --> 01:26:05,040
identified for gas tax dollars so I I

2018
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,080
just want to make make sure I mean if if

2019
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:08,600
some counselors are thinking that we

2020
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,159
could essentially swap the million

2021
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:11,760
dollars that's earmarked for this

2022
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,119
project in the draft budget to something

2023
01:26:14,119 --> 01:26:16,520
else which hasn't yet been identified

2024
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,639
this year uh as as as you know being um

2025
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:23,119
available for for gas tax funding is it

2026
01:26:23,119 --> 01:26:25,440
as easy as doing that or does that mean

2027
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,440
that we would have to bump some other

2028
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:29,920
project off to next year and and make

2029
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,239
that sort of eligible for gas tax

2030
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:36,040
dollars uh three you Warden uh the gas

2031
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,920
tax I think we

2032
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,880
have I can't remember it's three years

2033
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,040
or five years to use it so we can bump

2034
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,840
the gas tax money into future years I

2035
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,840
off the top of my head I can't recall

2036
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,960
what is in the 2026 capital budget for

2037
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,400
roads but I know there's not a lot lot

2038
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,199
of different rows the next few years

2039
01:26:56,199 --> 01:27:00,470
because we're focusing on

2040
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:03,400
109 okay so so for example say it was

2041
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,000
council's wish to to you know scrap this

2042
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,719
this particular project and to move that

2043
01:27:07,719 --> 01:27:09,760
million dollars to to build a bike lane

2044
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,159
or or expanded with on on another road

2045
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:13,840
somewhere in the county and the wish

2046
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,880
were to do that this year can we do

2047
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,880
that um through you Warden Mr Burns is

2048
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,679
shaking his head no I I thought that was

2049
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:25,880
the case I I just don't want anybody

2050
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,239
thinking that it's as simple as just

2051
01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:29,840
moving money from this to something

2052
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,400
else Scott go ahead through you Warden

2053
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,760
it is not that simple that's

2054
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,520
all anything further I think we' pretty

2055
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,760
well beat this one to death oh Bardon

2056
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,800
white I mean counselor white former

2057
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,600
former Warden that guy that guy that

2058
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,119
used to be um I I I don't disagree that

2059
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:55,159
it's you know it's it's as easy as you

2060
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:57,000
know just changing a line on a on a

2061
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,239
paper but I also don't agree that if

2062
01:27:59,239 --> 01:28:00,600
it's a project that we don't think

2063
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,920
should move forward that we spend money

2064
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,280
just because somebody gave it to us and

2065
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,800
I think that's one of the things people

2066
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,480
get uh hesitant about when they talk

2067
01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:13,360
about politics at all levels is like you

2068
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,960
know this this this notion that some

2069
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,480
people have that we have money therefore

2070
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,440
we must spend it you know if i' I'd

2071
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:24,760
rather take that money we can't move it

2072
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,560
out of that project then I'd rather do

2073
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,880
more Lane kilometers of the actual Road

2074
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,119
for example if if we're hamstrung by

2075
01:28:33,119 --> 01:28:35,080
where we can spend it then instead of

2076
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,639
going from 10 North maybe we go down to

2077
01:28:37,639 --> 01:28:40,199
five and go north uh you know with

2078
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:43,040
actual road work for people to actually

2079
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,679
travel on or something like that I don't

2080
01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:48,159
but I think if we're looking at spending

2081
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:49,719
it just because we have it I think

2082
01:28:49,719 --> 01:28:52,629
that's the wrong

2083
01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:54,920
approach thank you

2084
01:28:54,920 --> 01:29:02,990
okay let's um how do we proceed here

2085
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Amy oh yes sorry just just point of kind

2086
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920
of a Clarity if we decided not to do the

2087
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,800
bike lanes and so we that be saving us a

2088
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,639
million dollars we could roll that

2089
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:18,310
forward to a project NE next

2090
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,760
year right and we wouldn't lose any of

2091
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,520
the tax gas tax yeah absolutely we don't

2092
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,159
have to use all our gas tax each year so

2093
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:28,480
from my perspective that the discussion

2094
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,000
here is we're thinking that we can

2095
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,440
utilize this

2096
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:34,600
money uh at a better level higher level

2097
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,280
that's going to be more effective than

2098
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,520
than perhaps on the bike Lanes going up

2099
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,520
from 10 Side Road 289 at this point in

2100
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,280
time so then I I don't know what we do

2101
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,360
to do we need would we need a motion to

2102
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:58,709
delay that to give direction

2103
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:02,480
yes thanks Madam Warden uh if Council

2104
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:05,320
would like to remove the $100,000 from

2105
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,080
the tax levy that's related to this

2106
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,400
project then um just sort of by

2107
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,320
consensus we can we can um do that and

2108
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,000
Amy will keep a running list of all of

2109
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,280
those items and when we've gone through

2110
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,280
the whole budget she will have a list

2111
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,360
with the amounts of each item and then

2112
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,520
at the end you can vote on the total of

2113
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,400
those items rather than making motions

2114
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,960
throughout the proc process it's just a

2115
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,199
little bit easier if uh we keep a

2116
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:28,600
running total and then you vote on them

2117
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,239
all at the

2118
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:35,840
end I like that okay okay so we'll we'll

2119
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,400
have that as a as a oh yes Mr

2120
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,639
Burns sorry Warden if I'm becoming a

2121
01:30:41,639 --> 01:30:44,360
nuisance so so I I think if if Council

2122
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,480
wants to do that um great and I think

2123
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,920
what we would do is very likely go back

2124
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,840
to sort of our standard cross-section so

2125
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:53,280
there would still be a paved shoulder

2126
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:54,880
but it wouldn't be

2127
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,880
as extensive if that makes sense to

2128
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,000
council because there's multiple reasons

2129
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,400
why you may want to PVE a shoulder side

2130
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,760
from cycling Etc so we'd probably revert

2131
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,480
back to our standard which um you see

2132
01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:09,360
mono on road 18 several other roads um

2133
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:10,600
so that would probably so you'd still

2134
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,679
see something out there not just to the

2135
01:31:12,679 --> 01:31:14,400
the level at which we were talking when

2136
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:15,719
we first

2137
01:31:15,719 --> 01:31:19,400
started okay so Amy you've got note then

2138
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,480
all right we'll let Amy carry

2139
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:25,920
on uh thank you thank you okay so I

2140
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,840
think we left off on

2141
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,000
uh summarizing engineering the status

2142
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,760
quo being

2143
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,320
3.83% with capital that becomes 1.08 and

2144
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,080
with the proposed additions it's 1.42%

2145
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,960
of course the change we made today is

2146
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:49,550
not included in these

2147
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:57,189
numbers climate and energy

2148
01:31:57,199 --> 01:31:59,400
okay climate energy their expenses are

2149
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:04,080
down $935,000 or 60%

2150
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,719
that is because there's one item in

2151
01:32:07,719 --> 01:32:11,199
admin in one item in Service delivery in

2152
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:14,080
admin I think that we have actually in

2153
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,000
2025

2154
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,639
new um they include three full-time

2155
01:32:19,639 --> 01:32:22,280
positions and two contract um summer

2156
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,880
intern positions and salaries and

2157
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,639
benefits are up a little bit extra

2158
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:29,000
because we have two admin staff and

2159
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,920
operations that we have redistributed

2160
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,040
amongst all the divisions so there's a

2161
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,880
slight increase there because of

2162
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,159
that other

2163
01:32:37,159 --> 01:32:39,560
highlights um advertising promotions and

2164
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,679
special events are

2165
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:45,000
$30,500 Consulting fees are $25,000 and

2166
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,159
corporate climate training is

2167
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:52,119
$5,000 there's an aster beside climate

2168
01:32:52,119 --> 01:32:54,760
training because the plan was to have

2169
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,760
the majority of the work done in

2170
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,840
2024 but due to unforeseen circumstances

2171
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,040
the vendor on the vendor side they were

2172
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,840
not able to get all the work done and

2173
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,600
there's about $7,000 that needs to be

2174
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,040
carried into

2175
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,600
20205 and because we've already raised

2176
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,920
those those tax dollars in 2024 I'm

2177
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,280
proposing that we adjust the 2025 budget

2178
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,600
for increasing the training to by $7,000

2179
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,159
but also having that being funded from

2180
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:27,350
the rate stabilization

2181
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,719
Reserve Service delivery includes an

2182
01:33:30,719 --> 01:33:32,639
increase in the rural water quality

2183
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:35,360
program to $60,000 and support for

2184
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,400
experimental acres and youth climate

2185
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:43,350
activation Circle which totals

2186
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,159
$224,000 other highlights in it and

2187
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,239
Communications software costs include

2188
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:49,920
annual fees for energy management

2189
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:50,920
software of

2190
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,040
$10,000 energy modeling software of ,000

2191
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,840
and Adobe licenses of 3,000 I just

2192
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,320
wanted to talk about the Adobe licenses

2193
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,760
the licensing model for Adobe has

2194
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,239
changed and so there's a lot of

2195
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:06,239
increases across all um it in a lot of

2196
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:07,880
Divisions because we now have to pay an

2197
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,119
annual fee whereas we just used to have

2198
01:34:11,119 --> 01:34:16,390
to buy the license and hope it lasts

2199
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,080
forever yeah um the net next Slide the

2200
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,880
net increase uh for proposed additions

2201
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,560
is $888,000 in 2025 most climate and

2202
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,080
energy additions are Project based with

2203
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,840
the exception of the staff which are not

2204
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:35,070
being proposed until uh

2205
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,679
2026

2206
01:34:36,679 --> 01:34:40,189
previously

2207
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:42,239
committed

2208
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:45,199
sorry yeah I just wanted to note on this

2209
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:46,520
page and I've already mentioned it to

2210
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,159
Scott that that we're putting in $2

2211
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:50,560
million for the home retrofit program

2212
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,239
which I think is great the the

2213
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:54,080
awkwardness is that we can't can't

2214
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,400
publicly announce this program because

2215
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,360
the funding agency hasn't hasn't given

2216
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,840
us permission yet but we are planning to

2217
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,040
do it in next year this this year

2218
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,400
because we have it in the budget the

2219
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,719
part uh I didn't understand if you go to

2220
01:35:07,719 --> 01:35:09,880
the next page where it has the better

2221
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,800
homes Duffer and energy retrofit program

2222
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,960
I got that then down below it has

2223
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,560
buildings retrofit study $200,000 with

2224
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:18,960
an aster and

2225
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,199
I is that different than than the energy

2226
01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:24,320
R what is this

2227
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,520
$200,000 for building retrofit study Amy

2228
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,800
uh through you Warden that is a that's

2229
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,920
something different and I will talk to

2230
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,080
that when I get to that for sure um but

2231
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,520
the Better Homes Deen energy retrofit

2232
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,199
project it's the project total

2233
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:43,040
is

2234
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,000
11 11 and A4 million doar um over four

2235
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,520
years we don't know how much we're going

2236
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,239
to spend each year we've just put in an

2237
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:51,719
estimate based on the cash flow that

2238
01:35:51,719 --> 01:35:55,990
we've developed with the with um um

2239
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,360
fcm yeah when we can announce it we'll

2240
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,960
announce it and I I think the reason I

2241
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,159
had brought it up with Scott it's going

2242
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:04,480
to be really important when we announce

2243
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:06,119
it that I think all of us counselors

2244
01:36:06,119 --> 01:36:09,000
have to sort of be ambassadors to this

2245
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,239
program when we go back to our

2246
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:11,679
municipalities and let our residents

2247
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:14,119
know that this program is there and they

2248
01:36:14,119 --> 01:36:17,199
can apply for it and do all kinds of fun

2249
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:20,920
things but we can't announce it yet no

2250
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,750
okay

2251
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,760
so Amy we've been approved but we can't

2252
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:33,870
say anything that's right is that

2253
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:41,830
right maybe we've been approved we don't

2254
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,440
know we are awaiting a formal

2255
01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:48,679
announcement as to who is receiving the

2256
01:36:48,679 --> 01:36:51,440
funding okay so that announcement has

2257
01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:54,880
not been made the official announcement

2258
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,760
through you Warden correct um and we are

2259
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,920
hoping to learn whether or not we are

2260
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:03,000
successful very very shortly um and the

2261
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,719
plan ultimately should we be successful

2262
01:37:05,719 --> 01:37:07,360
would be to to immediately start

2263
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,360
reaching out to um the local tier

2264
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,920
municipalities to talk about the LIC

2265
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,040
bylaws we have a draft that can be used

2266
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,119
to help get those things through and we

2267
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:18,600
would be hopeful to have a program up

2268
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,080
and running roughly mid 2025 should we

2269
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,280
be successful

2270
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,000
thank you for that

2271
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,159
Clarity and I just wanted to state that

2272
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:33,960
this program has zero cost to the county

2273
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,159
other than staff time um it is funded

2274
01:37:37,159 --> 01:37:40,080
there will be a cash flow issue in

2275
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,159
coming years but we're confident we'll

2276
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:44,199
be able to manage that because people

2277
01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:46,520
who are eligible for the program do have

2278
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,719
10 years to pay

2279
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:50,560
back plus

2280
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,960
interest um new to 2025 is that did add

2281
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,440
legal fees just because they have found

2282
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:58,119
that there's a lot more contracts with

2283
01:37:58,119 --> 01:37:59,880
vendors and different funders that need

2284
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,000
to be reviewed so we've added in $10,000

2285
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,360
for that we have a scheduled update to

2286
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,320
the de climate action plan which will

2287
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,400
merge the duff climate adaptation

2288
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,480
strategy and include a corporate climate

2289
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:12,360
plan into a single 10-year climate

2290
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,040
Master strategy and action plan of

2291
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,760
$250,000 um we are offsetting that by

2292
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,000
transfer from Reserve rate stabilization

2293
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,719
of $200,000

2294
01:38:23,719 --> 01:38:25,560
based on strong positive results

2295
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,719
residents survey results residents have

2296
01:38:27,719 --> 01:38:29,760
requested a rain barrel subsidy program

2297
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,119
for all residents in duffen County to

2298
01:38:32,119 --> 01:38:34,239
encourage on-site storm water management

2299
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:35,119
of

2300
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:37,480
$25,000 the 20 the town of Orangeville

2301
01:38:37,480 --> 01:38:38,960
already provides the service to its

2302
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,599
residents so the county program would be

2303
01:38:40,599 --> 01:38:43,599
extended to residents of the whole

2304
01:38:43,599 --> 01:38:46,360
County uh there's a small amount for new

2305
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,440
training

2306
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:49,880
software to support online climate

2307
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,560
training available to all staff the

2308
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,080
building retrofit study of

2309
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,159
$200,000 is to be offset um by transfer

2310
01:38:59,159 --> 01:39:01,520
fir rate civilization the study will

2311
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,360
provide a detailed costing plan and

2312
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,520
business case for deep energy retrofits

2313
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,280
to County owned building excluding

2314
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,119
housing which will be reviewed in 2026

2315
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:12,800
so that is what is included in the

2316
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,560
budget package but there are two

2317
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,199
retrofit studies and we inadvertently

2318
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:21,400
mix the two up so we actually want to do

2319
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,960
the better home the the building

2320
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,119
retrofit study for the housing next year

2321
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:29,239
and then the municipally owned ones the

2322
01:39:29,239 --> 01:39:31,800
following year so we're just going to

2323
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,679
switch those around it does change some

2324
01:39:33,679 --> 01:39:37,360
of the numbers the value I think is 325

2325
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:38,960
but there is some funding in the balance

2326
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,320
comes from rate stabilization so similar

2327
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,639
to the other one there's no impact on

2328
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:44,040
the bottom line so we're just going to

2329
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,199
make that

2330
01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:52,310
switch any questions on climate

2331
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,920
energy summarizing climate and energy

2332
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,639
the status quo operating a 7.58%

2333
01:39:57,639 --> 01:40:01,440
increase and the proposed additions are

2334
01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:06,149
23.18 moving on to corporate

2335
01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:09,040
facilities the corporate facilities is

2336
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,920
IM Min admin cost for staff that support

2337
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,360
all facilities excluding different Oaks

2338
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,000
as well as the building related costs

2339
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,800
for the courthouse and the Adel BR

2340
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,760
Center revenues um we've adjusted the

2341
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,159
rent Revenue to reflect the actual cost

2342
01:40:25,159 --> 01:40:27,199
recoveries for the courthouse uh lease

2343
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:28,400
cost those have actually been coming

2344
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:29,880
down because our costs have been coming

2345
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,520
down but I have our first actual change

2346
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,159
to the budget here I want to add

2347
01:40:35,159 --> 01:40:38,679
$155,000 in Revenue to it's not very big

2348
01:40:38,679 --> 01:40:40,880
to the rent Revenue because we have uh

2349
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,040
decided to lease out 53 Zina and we'll

2350
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,520
be receiving about $15,000 in Revenue

2351
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:46,920
next

2352
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,320
year and then the other Revenue includes

2353
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,480
revenue from the public electric vehicle

2354
01:40:53,480 --> 01:40:56,870
charging

2355
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,000
stations moving on to expenses uh there

2356
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,199
are 13 full-time positions and one

2357
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:06,920
part-time seasonal position within

2358
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,199
facilities there's a big decrease in

2359
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:12,520
admin in office uh this relates to the

2360
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,119
building condition assessment and energy

2361
01:41:14,119 --> 01:41:16,800
audits that were completed in 2024 we do

2362
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:18,800
the bcas every 5

2363
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,239
years we do budget for them within

2364
01:41:21,239 --> 01:41:23,360
corporate facilities because it's easier

2365
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,800
but when we actually expense them we

2366
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,400
expense them to all the individual

2367
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,000
buildings um other

2368
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,960
highlights uh Consulting includes

2369
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,920
$220,000 to address miscellaneous

2370
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,199
building studies required to ensure the

2371
01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:39,639
longevity of our assets and as well as

2372
01:41:39,639 --> 01:41:42,440
$2,000 for the development of service

2373
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:44,440
contracts there's been an increase in

2374
01:41:44,440 --> 01:41:47,080
service costs for the EV charging

2375
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,159
stations of about

2376
01:41:49,159 --> 01:41:52,719
$155,000 and uh it communication

2377
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:55,840
includes a work order software uh with

2378
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,679
annual fee of

2379
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:00,000
$155,000 and then we are anticipating a

2380
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,280
decrease in vehicles and Equipment as we

2381
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,199
shift towards electric

2382
01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:09,639
vehicles transfers we proposing $75,000

2383
01:42:09,639 --> 01:42:11,199
to come from the rate stabilization

2384
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,480
Reserve just to mitigate some of the

2385
01:42:13,480 --> 01:42:16,679
increases and we do we are able to apply

2386
01:42:16,679 --> 01:42:18,639
small amount of development charges to

2387
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:21,790
the debt on this

2388
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,760
building moving to proposed additions

2389
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,589
these equate to

2390
01:42:27,599 --> 01:42:31,030
$116,000 for

2391
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,320
2025 there is a new position um it's in

2392
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,480
the budget to start in March with

2393
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:41,119
107,000 you can go to the next page on

2394
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:42,920
for the project manager

2395
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,239
$17,700 for salaries and benefits plus

2396
01:42:45,239 --> 01:42:47,679
an additional 4,500 in support cost for

2397
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:50,800
year 1 and $22,000 thereafter with an

2398
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,480
annualized cost of $134,000

2399
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:57,040
and then the next is the asset and

2400
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,199
maintenance management Annual fees uh

2401
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:02,199
which I spoke about in engineering or

2402
01:43:02,199 --> 01:43:04,320
operations um same thing their cost

2403
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,440
share though is only

2404
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:10,960
$3,000 any questions on the proposed

2405
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:15,350
additions in

2406
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,520
facilities thanks Council way the uh the

2407
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,199
project manager is that the one that

2408
01:43:20,199 --> 01:43:22,000
we're bringing on looking at housing or

2409
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,480
is that another one in housing never

2410
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:29,790
mind

2411
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,290
then no other questions on these

2412
01:43:33,290 --> 01:43:35,119
[Music]

2413
01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:38,189
additions

2414
01:43:38,199 --> 01:43:41,719
okay moving to the capital asset

2415
01:43:41,719 --> 01:43:44,040
fund we see quite a dip in the capital

2416
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,840
asset fund for corporate facilities over

2417
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,199
the next few years before we start

2418
01:43:48,199 --> 01:43:50,400
building it up

2419
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,840
again the prior year carry forward

2420
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,320
includes uh parking lot at courthouse

2421
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:56,960
for

2422
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,639
$412,000 switch gears which is electrial

2423
01:43:59,639 --> 01:44:00,800
equipment for

2424
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,080
$125,000 Windows for

2425
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,159
2011 vehicle which we ordered in 2024

2426
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:08,159
that hasn't arrived yet for 60 Grand and

2427
01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:10,719
then some um security work at this

2428
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:13,679
building a 42

2429
01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:16,880
Grand moving to

2430
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,639
contributions uh other revenue is funds

2431
01:44:19,639 --> 01:44:22,159
from Naran for the electric vehicle

2432
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:23,679
charging station

2433
01:44:23,679 --> 01:44:25,480
uh which there was a report that went to

2434
01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:28,239
council a couple months ago I believe of

2435
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:32,239
$325,000 we have um put in debt

2436
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:34,560
financing to cover any work done to this

2437
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,400
building I'm just going to pause there

2438
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:40,080
for a second um in in terms of we have

2439
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,719
debt financing in there this year and

2440
01:44:41,719 --> 01:44:43,080
next year for this building but we

2441
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:44,880
probably won't we will not borrow until

2442
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,360
the project is done what we will end up

2443
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,400
doing is we will see how much we can

2444
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,480
cash flow and then if we run into cash

2445
01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:53,239
flow issues then we will get intern term

2446
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:55,119
borrowing which then we will just flip

2447
01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:57,480
into the actual

2448
01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:59,880
debenture um and then lastly transfers

2449
01:44:59,880 --> 01:45:02,280
from Reserve we have $300,000 coming

2450
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:03,520
from rate

2451
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,599
stabilization to um cover the balance of

2452
01:45:06,599 --> 01:45:11,080
the cost of the EV charging

2453
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,599
stations moving on to Capital work

2454
01:45:13,599 --> 01:45:15,639
there's $2.5 Million worth of work plan

2455
01:45:15,639 --> 01:45:19,119
for 2025 with 1.375 being considered New

2456
01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:20,719
Capital

2457
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:23,040
Investments uh future work plan will

2458
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,440
change once we have a further

2459
01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:26,719
clarification on what work will be done

2460
01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:29,400
when for example we have carpet that is

2461
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,280
due for replacement over the next couple

2462
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,880
of years within this building and if

2463
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,040
we're going to renovate this building

2464
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,199
we're clearly not going to do that so

2465
01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:39,679
the the future Capital work plan will

2466
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:45,990
likely change if we uh renovate this

2467
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,239
building uh we have two parking lots

2468
01:45:49,239 --> 01:45:50,920
planned the north both the North and the

2469
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,679
South parking lot at the courthouse in

2470
01:45:53,679 --> 01:45:56,159
2025 under buildings we have foundation

2471
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:58,080
work uh is required to prevent future

2472
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,760
fling funding Flooding at this building

2473
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,400
we have some regular Heating and

2474
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,159
ventilation air conditioning

2475
01:46:05,159 --> 01:46:07,000
Replacements

2476
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,520
and are required at $43,000 as well as

2477
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,080
updates to our building automation

2478
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,480
system of $40,000 and windows of

2479
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:18,639
110 due to the Heritage designation of

2480
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:20,599
the courthouse the windows and exterior

2481
01:46:20,599 --> 01:46:23,280
doors are not replaceable

2482
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,920
as such regular painting is required to

2483
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,199
maintain these assets an amount of

2484
01:46:28,199 --> 01:46:30,760
$12,500 has been included to gaug a

2485
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,119
consultant to assist with the

2486
01:46:32,119 --> 01:46:34,320
specifications in

2487
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,599
2025 I think the total cost and Scott

2488
01:46:38,599 --> 01:46:41,800
maybe you remember is around 300 between

2489
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,239
three and

2490
01:46:43,239 --> 01:46:47,440
$400,000 to do the actual painting

2491
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:49,840
um questions

2492
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:55,750
Phil Phil has his hand up

2493
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,679
I do um I had a question about the ashal

2494
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:03,239
paving so that's at the courthouse that

2495
01:47:03,239 --> 01:47:05,239
we as a county don't use anymore but we

2496
01:47:05,239 --> 01:47:09,679
still own it so we need to maintain it

2497
01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:12,960
correct um question number two would

2498
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,990
this be hot ashalt

2499
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,000
Paving and Scott is shaking his head yes

2500
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,840
I I see him I I I can actually see that

2501
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,239
um would we ever consider using recycled

2502
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:32,430
ashalt to to do

2503
01:47:32,440 --> 01:47:35,199
that through you Warden we do use

2504
01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:37,560
recycled asphalt most of the asphalt

2505
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:39,639
that we use we'll we'll spec a certain

2506
01:47:39,639 --> 01:47:42,080
composition of recycled material um in

2507
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:43,960
some cases on our roads we do a full

2508
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,440
like cold and place Recycling and those

2509
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:47,920
types of um um things within a parking

2510
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,639
lot very likely it'll be U Back to the

2511
01:47:51,639 --> 01:47:53,400
the previous one the mix of of new

2512
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:57,440
materials with a certain um percentage

2513
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,159
of uh recycled material so short answer

2514
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:03,560
yes but um there's always more

2515
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,440
details to go along with it if if I we

2516
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:10,960
would not consider using 100% recycled

2517
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,840
material for a for a parking

2518
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,239
lot

2519
01:48:17,239 --> 01:48:21,119
um I suppose we could we haven't um

2520
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:22,800
there's a there are concerns about

2521
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,440
longevity with that type of work

2522
01:48:24,440 --> 01:48:25,599
depending on the material that you're

2523
01:48:25,599 --> 01:48:28,000
getting so again we've we've found that

2524
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:29,440
there's a sweet spot and I forget what

2525
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:31,480
the percentage is that we pursue but

2526
01:48:31,480 --> 01:48:32,719
somewhere in the neighborhood of at

2527
01:48:32,719 --> 01:48:33,480
least

2528
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:35,840
20% um on a parking lot you may be able

2529
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,400
to increase that more than what we you

2530
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,960
would typically do on a roadway but um

2531
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,679
full recycled is is not something that

2532
01:48:42,679 --> 01:48:45,080
we have done on a parking lot

2533
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,430
no

2534
01:48:48,440 --> 01:48:56,229
okay anyone else

2535
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:58,159
uh we also have two pickups that are

2536
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:00,400
scheduled for replacement in 2025

2537
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:01,920
similar to other divisions we do have

2538
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:05,040
one that is being carried forward from

2539
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,280
2024 and then under New Capital

2540
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,040
Investments we have the renovations to

2541
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,040
this building as well as the electric

2542
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:15,070
vehicle charging

2543
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,199
stations summarizing corporate

2544
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:19,719
facilities the status quo operating is

2545
01:49:19,719 --> 01:49:22,400
13.07 when you add capital in that

2546
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:23,560
becomes comes

2547
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:30,390
27% with proposed additions it's

2548
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,119
40% moving on to way

2549
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:37,639
Services uh revenues are up

2550
01:49:37,639 --> 01:49:41,400
$2,000 uh user fees includes uh revenue

2551
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,119
from residents for additional B tags uh

2552
01:49:44,119 --> 01:49:45,920
the other revenue is household hazardous

2553
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,239
waste full producer responsibility for

2554
01:49:48,239 --> 01:49:50,599
designated materials not providing

2555
01:49:50,599 --> 01:49:53,320
adequate compensation to cover C's event

2556
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,280
day costs we're getting about

2557
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:59,599
$60,000 and then other Revenue also

2558
01:49:59,599 --> 01:50:01,000
includes

2559
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,040
money from circular materials for Waste

2560
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,920
Services guide and waste app and

2561
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:12,030
$35,000 for the sale of

2562
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,000
composters expenses are down

2563
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,040
$100,000 that's mostly because um

2564
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,080
similar to climate we have stuff in the

2565
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,320
2024 budget that we had is new and this

2566
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:26,800
year showing it under new in 2025 sorry

2567
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,280
um relating to the household housers

2568
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,320
waste mobile Depot as well they did do

2569
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:36,159
some audits in uh

2570
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:39,239
20204 um staff includes four full-time

2571
01:50:39,239 --> 01:50:41,239
positions um between six to eight

2572
01:50:41,239 --> 01:50:43,920
seasonal casual positions one Co-op

2573
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,719
student and two summer

2574
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:48,920
students other highlights in ad minut an

2575
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,639
office includes $98,500 in promotions 22

2576
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:56,360
,000 for Waste Audits and $122,000 for

2577
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,119
postage Service delivery we have the

2578
01:50:59,119 --> 01:51:01,360
annual Autumn loose leaf collection and

2579
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,280
processing for Orangeville and shelburn

2580
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,000
at a budget of

2581
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,040
$110,000 the actual costs for 2023 were

2582
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,639
$13 and I haven't seen the cost yet come

2583
01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:13,629
in for

2584
01:51:13,639 --> 01:51:16,239
2024 um and then vehicles and Equipment

2585
01:51:16,239 --> 01:51:17,520
similar to other divisions who are

2586
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,400
seeing small savings as they transition

2587
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:23,390
to electric vehicles

2588
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,199
so this is the one area where I actually

2589
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:28,109
have a budget

2590
01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:30,760
addition uh report went to committee uh

2591
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:32,480
late last year giving staff permission

2592
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:34,239
to move forward with going to market for

2593
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:36,560
the 2025 household hatress was Day

2594
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,880
events the contract came in higher than

2595
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:43,840
anticipated we budgeted $200,000 and the

2596
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,040
um the lowest bidder is

2597
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,199
$280,000 so we need to increase the

2598
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:52,320
budget um in order for staff to be able

2599
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,520
to award the

2600
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,360
contract the additional $80,000 is the

2601
01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:59,960
same level of service we provided

2602
01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:02,599
previously the cost have just gone

2603
01:52:02,599 --> 01:52:07,560
up any questions or comments on

2604
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,679
that I could propose that um when we add

2605
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:13,719
that that we have half of that come from

2606
01:52:13,719 --> 01:52:15,440
reserves because it is a quite a big

2607
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:17,920
increase so the impact is only 40 Grand

2608
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:24,390
instead of 80

2609
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,760
comment

2610
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,880
anybody that sounds good doesn't

2611
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,199
it okay uh moving on to

2612
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:36,840
oh

2613
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,280
pH can't see you so people have to tell

2614
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,840
me when you have your hand up that's

2615
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:44,760
good seems to be working quite well um

2616
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,719
I'm wondering if instead of taking it

2617
01:52:47,719 --> 01:52:50,280
out of the rate stabilization Reserve we

2618
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,159
look at a few of the small subsidy

2619
01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:54,960
program s um green bins comes to mind

2620
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,679
rain barrels comes to mind couple other

2621
01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:00,639
things and and try to try to even it out

2622
01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:03,360
that way rather than keeping on taking

2623
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:07,990
from

2624
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,840
reserves uh through you Warden those

2625
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,440
programs do not make they don't really

2626
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:17,589
make

2627
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:20,760
money okay

2628
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,830
okay um

2629
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,000
transfers we have $22,000 to offset the

2630
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,719
cost of the waste audits coming from the

2631
01:53:29,719 --> 01:53:32,880
waste reserve and then we do uh we are

2632
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,239
able to apply small amount of

2633
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:35,960
development charges to offset the cost

2634
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:41,229
of new green green Green bins based on

2635
01:53:41,239 --> 01:53:43,639
growth uh proposed additions there are a

2636
01:53:43,639 --> 01:53:45,639
couple additions proposed which are to

2637
01:53:45,639 --> 01:53:47,239
be funded from Reserve so the net

2638
01:53:47,239 --> 01:53:49,480
increase is

2639
01:53:49,480 --> 01:53:52,440
zero next slide under previously

2640
01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:54,719
committed we have the long-term Waste

2641
01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:56,280
Management strategy of

2642
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,440
$100,000 which was last completed in

2643
01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:00,920
2018 the update will review the County's

2644
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,360
progress and any setbacks to meeting its

2645
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,520
waste diversion goals while reviewing

2646
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,679
the path forward for the next five years

2647
01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:11,280
the work will be funded from the waste

2648
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,920
Reserve new to 2025 which we actually

2649
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,760
introduced last year um consultant

2650
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,320
services to assist in the planning

2651
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,000
approval for mobile or permanent

2652
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,320
household hazardous wastey

2653
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:25,440
$225,000 also to be funded from the

2654
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:27,760
waste Reserve County staff are exploring

2655
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,960
the components and options and

2656
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,280
opportunities for Depot service and will

2657
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,679
bring forward a recommendation to

2658
01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:36,560
council for consideration 2025 if

2659
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,159
approved the consultant would assist in

2660
01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:40,000
preparation of the required components

2661
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,960
of the approvals application to the

2662
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,719
ministry of environment conservation and

2663
01:54:43,719 --> 01:54:49,229
parks are there any questions on

2664
01:54:49,239 --> 01:54:52,480
those was Services capital is very

2665
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,360
minimal which limits their required fund

2666
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,719
balances the amount of carry forward is

2667
01:54:57,719 --> 01:55:00,800
for the vehicle that we ordered in 20124

2668
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,760
it hasn't arrived

2669
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:06,079
yet um moving down to contributions the

2670
01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:10,510
only contribution is tax Lobby and it's

2671
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,719
$13,000 and the only work planned for

2672
01:55:13,719 --> 01:55:16,119
2025 you can go down a couple slides on

2673
01:55:16,119 --> 01:55:19,679
you is um a

2674
01:55:19,679 --> 01:55:22,079
vehicle summarizing Waste Services the

2675
01:55:22,079 --> 01:55:24,880
start status quo operating is 3.28% when

2676
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,800
you add in capital it becomes

2677
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,440
3.3 and with the proposed changes it's

2678
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:36,069
3.29 the largest

2679
01:55:36,079 --> 01:55:38,079
um I don't know what my note says I'll

2680
01:55:38,079 --> 01:55:38,790
just skip

2681
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:41,360
[Music]

2682
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,719
it okay moving on to County

2683
01:55:44,719 --> 01:55:47,520
forest uh revenues are primarily Timber

2684
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,159
sales and a little bit for hunting and

2685
01:55:49,159 --> 01:55:50,719
event

2686
01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:53,639
permits County for has two positions in

2687
01:55:53,639 --> 01:55:55,840
one summer student uh position the

2688
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,800
salaries and benefits are there's a

2689
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,560
small decrease here similar to

2690
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,599
operations in Fleet we did have an over

2691
01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:04,079
an overlap for the replacement of the

2692
01:56:04,079 --> 01:56:06,440
the forest manager last

2693
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,040
year other highlights minut an office

2694
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,880
includes onetime costs associated with

2695
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,560
the promotion of the new operating plan

2696
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,320
uh $7,900 and 2024 included a one-time

2697
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,880
purchase of animal prooof trash

2698
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:23,119
bins facilities includes 13

2699
01:56:23,119 --> 01:56:26,199
$1,100 um for snow clearing at some of

2700
01:56:26,199 --> 01:56:28,669
the

2701
01:56:28,679 --> 01:56:32,360
tracks moving to transfers at the end of

2702
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,040
the year any surplus that we have within

2703
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:35,800
the county Forest is transferred to the

2704
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,199
reserve fund the value of the reserve

2705
01:56:38,199 --> 01:56:40,159
fund has declined significantly over the

2706
01:56:40,159 --> 01:56:41,599
last few

2707
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:43,719
years so we're just applying a little

2708
01:56:43,719 --> 01:56:45,599
bit each year there's a small net

2709
01:56:45,599 --> 01:56:48,719
increase um sorry proposed

2710
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:51,040
additions there's a small net increase

2711
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:55,950
in 2025 with no no staff proposed until

2712
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,199
2027 um new to 2025 is to attain the

2713
01:57:00,199 --> 01:57:01,800
certification through the sustainable

2714
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:03,560
Forest initiative which will provide

2715
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,520
tangible validation of sustainable

2716
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,040
management practices and open doors to

2717
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:09,679
New Opportunities such as the carbon

2718
01:57:09,679 --> 01:57:12,679
credit Market is

2719
01:57:12,679 --> 01:57:14,800
$7,000 and then in line with

2720
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:16,320
recommendations from the recently

2721
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,599
adopted Transportation master plan

2722
01:57:18,599 --> 01:57:20,599
develop an active Transportation master

2723
01:57:20,599 --> 01:57:22,599
plan to establish a detailed strategy

2724
01:57:22,599 --> 01:57:25,079
with input from local municipalities for

2725
01:57:25,079 --> 01:57:26,840
recommending additional local candidate

2726
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,360
routes that support the network of

2727
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,560
$100,000 to be funded by the reserves

2728
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,800
from wind turbines this is a multi-

2729
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,639
department project and I'm not sure that

2730
01:57:35,639 --> 01:57:37,040
it's actually going to land in County

2731
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,560
forest but we've just dropped in there

2732
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,320
for now and it is at this point likely

2733
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:45,430
to be led by

2734
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:50,360
planning um the capital asset fund we

2735
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:51,760
had plann on depleting the capital asset

2736
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,960
Fund in 2024 however with the delay of

2737
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,520
the delivery of the vehicle uh we have a

2738
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:58,000
little bit to carry

2739
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:01,079
forward um the $660,000

2740
01:58:01,079 --> 01:58:03,679
capital and work includes the carryover

2741
01:58:03,679 --> 01:58:07,639
of the vehicle as well as um a small

2742
01:58:07,639 --> 01:58:12,669
amount for replacement of gates and

2743
01:58:12,679 --> 01:58:15,159
fencing summarizing County forest the

2744
01:58:15,159 --> 01:58:17,079
status quo operating is

2745
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:19,800
8.47% when that you add in capital it

2746
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:20,840
becomes

2747
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,079
8.03 and with with proposed additions

2748
01:58:23,079 --> 01:58:26,149
the total increase is

2749
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:29,679
10.56% any questions for County forest I

2750
01:58:29,679 --> 01:58:33,280
had a question in terms of the trail

2751
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,199
because at one point in the um

2752
01:58:36,199 --> 01:58:39,119
description that talked about the person

2753
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:43,040
um with the forest is also with the

2754
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:47,440
trail and so there's no expenditures or

2755
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:52,350
any budget items for the trail

2756
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,760
uh we do have some maintenance money I

2757
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,560
believe in operations and Fleet okay

2758
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,880
yeah okay just it wasn't clear where all

2759
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,520
whether that's going to all be one kind

2760
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,599
of uh unit or

2761
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:07,920
whether yeah

2762
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,679
Scott uh through you warden so yeah the

2763
01:59:10,679 --> 01:59:12,280
the maintenance of the asset will occur

2764
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:13,920
through operations and sort of the

2765
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,079
philosophy and management of the

2766
01:59:17,079 --> 01:59:19,040
recreational element of it will be dealt

2767
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:27,589
with through Forest okay

2768
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:30,400
Phillip thank you through you I have a a

2769
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:33,599
question about the sustainable Forest

2770
01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:36,480
initiative certification I mean it's

2771
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:40,079
it's such a small amount um but and and

2772
01:59:40,079 --> 01:59:42,520
I understood this was to gain access to

2773
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:46,440
the carbon credit Market um is this a

2774
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,599
national Market an international market

2775
01:59:49,599 --> 01:59:51,400
um if it's National or even

2776
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,320
International do we believe it's still

2777
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:54,560
going to

2778
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,520
exist um you know by the middle of

2779
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,320
2025

2780
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,159
Scott through you Warden uh great

2781
02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:07,000
question um all I can really offer on

2782
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,480
this and I I have some notes here just

2783
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,159
to keep track of things but so this is

2784
02:00:11,159 --> 02:00:13,520
through the sustainable Forest

2785
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,079
initiative through the eastern Ontario

2786
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:19,360
model Forest Group certification so it

2787
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:23,199
will amongst other things afford um the

2788
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:25,639
opportunity for resources it will

2789
02:00:25,639 --> 02:00:27,760
confirm to the public that we are in

2790
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,000
fact managing our forests sustainably um

2791
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,960
it will even open up to funding and

2792
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,000
different funding models potentially the

2793
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:37,800
one that that you spoke to but certainly

2794
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:40,079
others um so there is more to it than

2795
02:00:40,079 --> 02:00:48,790
simply that that one piece but uh great

2796
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:53,430
question anyone else

2797
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,719
okay Amy is this the end of this uh

2798
02:00:55,719 --> 02:00:58,840
section I have two more slides okay so

2799
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:00,360
just to

2800
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,840
summarize the recap same slides we saw

2801
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:04,880
at the beginning what the percentage in

2802
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:06,719
increases are on the status quo for each

2803
02:01:06,719 --> 02:01:09,119
division and then the next slide shows

2804
02:01:09,119 --> 02:01:12,280
what the what the proposed

2805
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:17,550
increases and that concludes this

2806
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:20,440
one

2807
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:23,400
questions see

2808
02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:26,880
minute break a five minute break so that

2809
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,920
we can get through um Phillip you have a

2810
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,920
question I I I do sorry to keep you from

2811
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:37,960
your break um just um because everything

2812
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:39,440
moved so

2813
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,520
quickly um I I if I could just broadly

2814
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:47,400
the capital work um piece there's a

2815
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:49,480
significant amount of work far more than

2816
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,520
we've usually done we generally don't

2817
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:52,520
get

2818
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:56,000
done what we want to anyways um I don't

2819
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:57,840
know that it matters because it would

2820
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:04,470
just get carried forward is that

2821
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:07,400
correct uh pretty much are you talking

2822
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,960
about um engineering or just

2823
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,119
generally so this was from the very

2824
02:02:13,119 --> 02:02:15,239
beginning I think there's $91 Million

2825
02:02:15,239 --> 02:02:17,800
worth of capital work planned that's you

2826
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:19,360
know almost twice as much as we usually

2827
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:21,440
do and we don't ever do all that we

2828
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,639
usually do yeah a large chunk of that is

2829
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:26,719
the Operation Center the new Operation

2830
02:02:26,719 --> 02:02:29,719
Center of um just over 20 million and

2831
02:02:29,719 --> 02:02:32,239
then we do have additional projects

2832
02:02:32,239 --> 02:02:35,360
related that are Developer developer

2833
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,400
funded related to the 109

2834
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:40,679
realignment and that leads beautifully

2835
02:02:40,679 --> 02:02:42,320
into the next question because I

2836
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,639
couldn't find this anywhere either are

2837
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:48,880
you able to give a highlevel estimate of

2838
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,320
what it's going to cost the tax levy to

2839
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:54,320
add the new operations center and the

2840
02:02:54,320 --> 02:03:01,310
renovation to the edel Brock

2841
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:04,280
Center

2842
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:08,280
no I I can I can find out based on how

2843
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:09,960
much we think we're going to borrow but

2844
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:11,679
I haven't gotten into doing the analysis

2845
02:03:11,679 --> 02:03:13,639
in terms of how much it's going to cost

2846
02:03:13,639 --> 02:03:16,360
related to the ongoing operating

2847
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:19,199
costs and and that's fine and I should

2848
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:21,040
have asked you this beforehand but if

2849
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,440
that's something I think we have another

2850
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:25,840
budget meeting on the 30th um I I would

2851
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,960
really appreciate seeing that because I

2852
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,400
am concerned that we're going to saddle

2853
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,639
future councils with a pretty hefty

2854
02:03:34,639 --> 02:03:38,199
increase simply to pay for these

2855
02:03:38,199 --> 02:03:40,920
things yeah so I it would be at least

2856
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,480
from my standpoint very useful to know

2857
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:45,400
what what that's going to mean to the

2858
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,360
tax levy moving

2859
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,840
forward good point Phil thank you for

2860
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:52,679
bringing that up

2861
02:03:52,679 --> 02:03:57,119
last question if I may um the electric

2862
02:03:57,119 --> 02:04:01,830
Chargers that was I think that's that's

2863
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:05,360
$625,000 um we were applying for a grant

2864
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:07,480
is there offsetting Revenue in the

2865
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:09,719
budget based on what we thought we'd get

2866
02:04:09,719 --> 02:04:12,920
for the grant or are we only going to

2867
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:16,079
put that Revenue in if we get it which

2868
02:04:16,079 --> 02:04:17,800
another way of asking are we putting in

2869
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:19,639
the Chargers regardless of if we get the

2870
02:04:19,639 --> 02:04:22,280
grant

2871
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:24,159
uh we do have offsetting Revenue in the

2872
02:04:24,159 --> 02:04:26,040
budget and no we are not putting them in

2873
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:36,790
if we don't get the grant thank you very

2874
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,040
much councilor

2875
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:42,239
Solomon uh thank you uh Madame Wen just

2876
02:04:42,239 --> 02:04:45,920
a silly end of this segment is uh we've

2877
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,920
been promised a uh trade War by the uh

2878
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:52,480
end of uh maybe the week after that or a

2879
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:57,360
week after next um how um like as along

2880
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,440
with Phil's Point um should we be doing

2881
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,840
a whole lot with uh whether we know what

2882
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,520
it that's going to be like um whether

2883
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,320
our constituents have any money left

2884
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,040
we've been kind of threatened that we

2885
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,920
might become State I don't know what can

2886
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:14,079
be done I don't know if nobody in this

2887
02:05:14,079 --> 02:05:17,119
room I'm sure can answer it and uh and I

2888
02:05:17,119 --> 02:05:19,840
certainly don't know either but I just

2889
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,840
would maybe be cautious I'm

2890
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:24,880
uh you know you know who you're dealing

2891
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,159
with and you don't know how that's going

2892
02:05:27,159 --> 02:05:29,520
to turn out so I guess we have to go on

2893
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,400
it like business as usual but just who

2894
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,800
knows so thank you very

2895
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,119
much thank you

2896
02:05:38,119 --> 02:05:40,840
Steve uh

2897
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,400
Todd uh just quickly I think the

2898
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:46,320
commentary by Phil was really good um in

2899
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,000
terms of I know we don't know the number

2900
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,480
but we do know what the impact could be

2901
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:52,800
in 2026 because we saw I think it was

2902
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,079
plus 10% to the taxpayers and then the

2903
02:05:55,079 --> 02:05:58,280
year after that is also um abnormally

2904
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:00,639
High two right based based on that I

2905
02:06:00,639 --> 02:06:02,520
can't remember what that number was but

2906
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:03,920
we do know that we're heading towards

2907
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:10,030
double digits for the next two

2908
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:12,800
years you're correct I do have um some

2909
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:17,480
numbers but just for the debt um and

2910
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:20,040
it's based on $20 million of debt for

2911
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:23,400
the um operations Center in $6 million

2912
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,760
here it it depends on how much we

2913
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:27,920
actually end up borrowing but I can give

2914
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,440
you the numbers that I've included in

2915
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:33,320
the budget um for future

2916
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:40,990
years just to pull it

2917
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:45,000
out okay thank you Amy Let's uh take

2918
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:46,960
that five minute break then and be back

2919
02:06:46,960 --> 02:07:20,510
at the table in five

2920
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:50,430
help

2921
02:07:50,440 --> 02:15:09,790
e e

2922
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:32,830
maybe just

2923
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:35,920
I do like this new um setup with the

2924
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:38,880
stuff around the table is

2925
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:42,159
everybody comfortable with this rather

2926
02:15:42,159 --> 02:15:45,000
not Scott oh it's just

2927
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:47,480
Scott well we can move him somewhere

2928
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:57,690
else

2929
02:15:57,700 --> 02:16:01,069
[Laughter]

2930
02:16:01,079 --> 02:16:07,270
change your name

2931
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:10,559
Todd okay folks we're now on the general

2932
02:16:10,559 --> 02:16:14,960
government services piece so in your uh

2933
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:18,400
documents make sure you're on the right

2934
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:23,109
category go ahead Amy

2935
02:16:23,119 --> 02:16:24,559
thank you I'm just waiting for Sonia to

2936
02:16:24,559 --> 02:16:35,230
bring up the uh slide

2937
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,719
deck okay General government services

2938
02:16:38,719 --> 02:16:41,000
includes Council Office of the C

2939
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:43,439
corporate services and people in equity

2940
02:16:43,439 --> 02:16:45,080
unfortunately this committee does have

2941
02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:46,920
the most

2942
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:49,679
slides so starting off with Council and

2943
02:16:49,679 --> 02:16:53,559
Grant this status quo increase

2944
02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:55,120
is

2945
02:16:55,120 --> 02:17:01,950
33% and with proposed additions is

2946
02:17:01,960 --> 02:17:05,599
9.83% uh just some highlights really is

2947
02:17:05,599 --> 02:17:07,000
only the salaries and benefits has

2948
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:12,070
decreased as we've reduced the preems by

2949
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:15,479
$28,900 other highlights uh training and

2950
02:17:15,479 --> 02:17:17,679
conferences for Olive council is

2951
02:17:17,679 --> 02:17:20,200
$52,000 and then the membership fees for

2952
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:21,639
western w

2953
02:17:21,639 --> 02:17:26,349
emo and fcm total $49,100

2954
02:17:26,359 --> 02:17:29,840
there are some proposed additions within

2955
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,399
um Council council members have

2956
02:17:32,399 --> 02:17:34,760
previously proposed an increase to

2957
02:17:34,760 --> 02:17:36,439
contributions to the Food For Thought

2958
02:17:36,439 --> 02:17:40,000
grants of 40% or

2959
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,280
$28,000 we are also proposing an

2960
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:44,719
increase of $45,000 to the community

2961
02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:47,800
grant program for a total of

2962
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:49,960
$140,000 and additional support to

2963
02:17:49,960 --> 02:17:51,800
Headwaters community in

2964
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:54,479
action um for administration of the

2965
02:17:54,479 --> 02:17:56,679
county grant program of

2966
02:17:56,679 --> 02:18:00,120
$115,000 as per council's request hcia

2967
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:02,040
did provide us with a proposed increase

2968
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:05,040
for 2025 in future years the total

2969
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,319
increase for 2025 was

2970
02:18:07,319 --> 02:18:10,880
$140,500 but due to other pressures we

2971
02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:13,240
did not include the total amount but did

2972
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:15,559
include an increase of

2973
02:18:15,559 --> 02:18:18,080
$4,500 um and this is split between this

2974
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:20,559
budget and community services and then

2975
02:18:20,559 --> 02:18:22,319
of of course there are further increases

2976
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:24,240
planned for future

2977
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,519
years councelor

2978
02:18:26,519 --> 02:18:29,200
ni yeah I just I just want to check I

2979
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,160
understand the the additions the new

2980
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:33,280
grants are going to give but back up to

2981
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:35,830
the

2982
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:38,319
um on the main page Service delivery

2983
02:18:38,319 --> 02:18:40,719
including grants that does include the

2984
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:42,920
$50,000 we're giving to the food bank

2985
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:45,120
that that was a commitment more than one

2986
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:47,599
year was it was it not or is my

2987
02:18:47,599 --> 02:18:51,960
memory at fault here the add amount that

2988
02:18:51,960 --> 02:18:54,479
um the council proposed for the food

2989
02:18:54,479 --> 02:18:57,080
bank I've included in the $28,000 in the

2990
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:59,080
Food For Thought grants on the proposed

2991
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:00,800
additions it's included in that amount

2992
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:05,920
there 28 28,000 I yeah so I thought we

2993
02:19:05,920 --> 02:19:08,479
made a commitment we decided to increase

2994
02:19:08,479 --> 02:19:10,240
I think from 40 to

2995
02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:12,559
50,000 or I can't remember the exact

2996
02:19:12,559 --> 02:19:14,479
amount but it worked out to 28% and we

2997
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:15,960
thought that it was only fair that that

2998
02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:18,359
shelburn got that as

2999
02:19:18,359 --> 02:19:21,439
well okay I think I think I follow that

3000
02:19:21,439 --> 02:19:22,679
okay okay

3001
02:19:22,679 --> 02:19:25,000
thanks any other questions on the

3002
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:28,479
proposed additions under

3003
02:19:28,479 --> 02:19:32,870
Council seeing none

3004
02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:36,760
okay um then summarizing them it's a 33%

3005
02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:38,719
increased status quo and

3006
02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:41,439
9.83% uh with the

3007
02:19:41,439 --> 02:19:44,040
additions moving on to the office of the

3008
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:46,760
cioo um office of coo consists of

3009
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:49,319
administration and Communications clerks

3010
02:19:49,319 --> 02:19:51,120
and Emergency Management and have a net

3011
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:52,560
increase of

3012
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:55,040
6.83% there are no proposed additions

3013
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:59,309
for 2025 in the office of the

3014
02:19:59,319 --> 02:20:02,000
CAO uh Capital the only Department that

3015
02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:03,880
has capital is Emergency

3016
02:20:03,880 --> 02:20:05,880
Management and as you can see they

3017
02:20:05,880 --> 02:20:10,190
pretty much only have one thing

3018
02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:14,120
um uh so the the

3019
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:17,000
um yeah the line goes up and down as we

3020
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:18,680
require the capital asset fund balance

3021
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:20,359
kind of goes up and down as we need the

3022
02:20:20,359 --> 02:20:23,150
money

3023
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:25,720
moving into Administration and

3024
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:27,920
Communications um you have to pardon my

3025
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:29,880
short forms some of some Department

3026
02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:31,880
names are too long so I just kind of

3027
02:20:31,880 --> 02:20:34,080
shortened it to admin and

3028
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:35,960
Communications in the package you will

3029
02:20:35,960 --> 02:20:37,720
see that in many Communications did

3030
02:20:37,720 --> 02:20:40,280
include Revenue when I was putting

3031
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:42,160
together the slide deck I realized that

3032
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:44,880
the uh Revenue actually belongs under

3033
02:20:44,880 --> 02:20:46,120
the clerk's

3034
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:48,640
department and so we I made the change

3035
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:52,960
on these slides the total difference is

3036
02:20:52,960 --> 02:20:55,399
$1,750 so admin and communication does

3037
02:20:55,399 --> 02:20:57,880
consist of four full-time employees and

3038
02:20:57,880 --> 02:21:00,560
the big increase in 2025 is because we

3039
02:21:00,560 --> 02:21:03,750
did add a position in

3040
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,240
2024 in terms of highlights we are

3041
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:07,920
including Community engagement training

3042
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,359
for all staff uh that are involved with

3043
02:21:10,359 --> 02:21:12,399
public consultation at a cost of

3044
02:21:12,399 --> 02:21:14,399
$77,000 and we have Consulting for

3045
02:21:14,399 --> 02:21:16,319
ongoing strategic plan implementation

3046
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:19,280
work of $60,000 which we propose to come

3047
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:22,870
from Reserves

3048
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:25,680
which is the transfers on the next page

3049
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:27,800
and then since there's nothing new

3050
02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:29,479
summarizing the status quote budget is

3051
02:21:29,479 --> 02:21:31,920
increase at 9% any questions on admin

3052
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:35,830
and

3053
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:38,800
Communications moving on to clerks um

3054
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:40,000
they have a little bit of Revenue they

3055
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:41,359
have a little bit of revenue for parking

3056
02:21:41,359 --> 02:21:45,200
tickets and then POA cost recovery um we

3057
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:47,040
do provide phone and internet services

3058
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:51,200
and they just um pay us a cost for that

3059
02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:53,960
on the expense side they do have a small

3060
02:21:53,960 --> 02:21:57,399
increase of $115,000 or 3% and there are

3061
02:21:57,399 --> 02:22:00,319
three staff within that

3062
02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:02,560
division other highlights it and

3063
02:22:02,560 --> 02:22:04,840
Communications uh the ESB annual

3064
02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:08,240
licensing fee is $336,600 and then

3065
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:10,920
internal Services recover it is just an

3066
02:22:10,920 --> 02:22:12,560
allocation that we do between different

3067
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:14,479
divisions to make sure we're capturing

3068
02:22:14,479 --> 02:22:16,160
the full costs um within the other

3069
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:18,040
divisions typically we only do them

3070
02:22:18,040 --> 02:22:22,550
between divisions that receive subsidy

3071
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,359
and then of course I have um included a

3072
02:22:25,359 --> 02:22:26,680
small amount coming from the rate

3073
02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:29,920
stabilization Reserve to to offset the

3074
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:33,319
big jump as a result of the

3075
02:22:33,319 --> 02:22:36,600
Ebe and summarizing Clerk's Department

3076
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:39,990
status quo is

3077
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:43,319
5.32% Emergency

3078
02:22:43,319 --> 02:22:46,840
Management they have one full-time staff

3079
02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:49,520
and uh a small portion for the Emergency

3080
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:51,120
Management backup

3081
02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:53,319
position they have a net decrease in

3082
02:22:53,319 --> 02:22:58,000
expenses 2024 included an amount to uh

3083
02:22:58,000 --> 02:23:02,750
relocate the emergency Operation

3084
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:06,479
Center um as well as a small amount

3085
02:23:06,479 --> 02:23:09,120
towards the resiliency Hub

3086
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:11,920
planning the admin office also includes

3087
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,399
training a $1,500 increase and

3088
02:23:15,399 --> 02:23:17,399
photography and videography of

3089
02:23:17,399 --> 02:23:20,600
$2,000 Service delivery includes $22,000

3090
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:22,279
for emergency exercises and public

3091
02:23:22,279 --> 02:23:24,680
education and $10,000 for emergency

3092
02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:27,359
prepared preparedness kits and then

3093
02:23:27,359 --> 02:23:31,870
$36,800 for the 911

3094
02:23:31,880 --> 02:23:35,240
contract transfers um we have an annual

3095
02:23:35,240 --> 02:23:37,840
contribution to the emergency Municipal

3096
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:41,279
emergency redness reserve and uh 2024 we

3097
02:23:41,279 --> 02:23:42,840
did include an amount coming from

3098
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:46,080
reserve for the relocation of the

3099
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:51,990
emergency Operation Center

3100
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:54,640
uh the capital asset fund you can see at

3101
02:23:54,640 --> 02:23:56,359
the bottom line it increases over the

3102
02:23:56,359 --> 02:23:58,640
next few years as we're setting IDE

3103
02:23:58,640 --> 02:24:01,200
money for future

3104
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,359
Replacements contributions we're hoping

3105
02:24:03,359 --> 02:24:05,279
to get some uh funding for the

3106
02:24:05,279 --> 02:24:08,080
resiliency Hub of $50,000 and then we

3107
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:10,640
will be pulling 25,000 from the rate

3108
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:14,550
stabilization as it's

3109
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:18,920
new um we have one project planned for

3110
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:22,720
2025 it is joint project with climate

3111
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:25,160
and energy and I believe facilities the

3112
02:24:25,160 --> 02:24:26,960
outdoor Community resilience Hub of

3113
02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:29,080
$100,000 will serve as an important

3114
02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:31,160
piece of infrastructure that will offer

3115
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:33,000
a gathering space for community members

3116
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:35,160
to connect access resources and

3117
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:37,520
strengthen climate resilience featuring

3118
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:39,680
sheltered seating educational signage

3119
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:42,240
and climate adaptive Landscaping The Hub

3120
02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:43,760
will support workshops and events

3121
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:45,479
focused on emergency preparedness and

3122
02:24:45,479 --> 02:24:48,830
local

3123
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:52,080
collaboration any question

3124
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:53,920
questions there are no proposed

3125
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:55,680
additions summarizing Emergency

3126
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:58,200
Management they're up 3.98% and with

3127
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:02,870
capital it's

3128
02:25:02,880 --> 02:25:06,000
3.79 summarizing the office of the CEO

3129
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:07,880
department just the same slide that we

3130
02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:09,520
saw

3131
02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:12,920
earlier moving on to Corporate

3132
02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:16,359
Services you moving too fast Corporate

3133
02:25:16,359 --> 02:25:20,000
Services consist of three div um four

3134
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:22,120
divisions technically it Finance

3135
02:25:22,120 --> 02:25:23,840
corporate finance and procurement they

3136
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,720
have a status quo increase of

3137
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:29,399
1.95% you can be on the next

3138
02:25:29,399 --> 02:25:31,880
slide and the next

3139
02:25:31,880 --> 02:25:44,070
one with proposed increases we jump to

3140
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:46,680
12.06% sorry Todd go ahead I was just

3141
02:25:46,680 --> 02:25:49,479
curious the um the setup that we have in

3142
02:25:49,479 --> 02:25:51,880
terms of how the grid is done I know

3143
02:25:51,880 --> 02:25:54,439
that our CIO is the acting director of

3144
02:25:54,439 --> 02:25:57,040
corporate services really has been for

3145
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:00,080
quite some time is that are we replacing

3146
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:03,960
that and if we're not um is that money

3147
02:26:03,960 --> 02:26:07,240
in the budget and if it is should it be

3148
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:09,240
or are we just going to allocate it

3149
02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:10,840
differently but the grid still says that

3150
02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:12,760
we have the position but I mean I

3151
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:13,800
haven't been with the county for a long

3152
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:15,600
time but I I haven't seen I don't I

3153
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:17,560
don't recall who had it and it feels

3154
02:26:17,560 --> 02:26:25,150
like it's been a long time

3155
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:27,640
for you Warden Herer uh it's a great

3156
02:26:27,640 --> 02:26:29,800
question councelor Taylor no that

3157
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:31,359
position has not been filled for quite

3158
02:26:31,359 --> 02:26:34,399
some time uh I think if you note in one

3159
02:26:34,399 --> 02:26:38,479
of the objectives for 2025 for um the

3160
02:26:38,479 --> 02:26:40,520
office of the CAO is to take a look at

3161
02:26:40,520 --> 02:26:42,800
the senior management structure and to

3162
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:44,279
make some decisions on how we might like

3163
02:26:44,279 --> 02:26:47,200
to move forward so um there is funding

3164
02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:49,640
in there now and I would suggest that

3165
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:51,080
when we have that conversation later in

3166
02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:52,960
the year we will likely reallocate it

3167
02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:54,439
but I don't think it would something be

3168
02:26:54,439 --> 02:27:03,190
something that we would completely

3169
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:05,520
delete Capital the only Department that

3170
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:07,439
has uh capital is

3171
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:10,319
it um the tax that be here remains

3172
02:27:10,319 --> 02:27:12,160
relatively constant as the capital fund

3173
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:13,960
balance does go up and down from year to

3174
02:27:13,960 --> 02:27:17,160
year god

3175
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:21,479
sakes um it

3176
02:27:21,479 --> 02:27:24,240
uh revenues are down

3177
02:27:24,240 --> 02:27:27,200
$45,000 uh essentially the other

3178
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:28,960
revenues are reallocation of cost to

3179
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:31,399
other divisions in 2024 included an

3180
02:27:31,399 --> 02:27:33,120
allocation of Staff time towards the

3181
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:35,279
website project which is now

3182
02:27:35,279 --> 02:27:38,200
done and the government transfer is it

3183
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:39,960
contracts with the lower tiers including

3184
02:27:39,960 --> 02:27:45,630
GIS and support that they

3185
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:48,960
provide um expenses are down

3186
02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:51,760
$24,000 um they have 10 full-time

3187
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:54,680
positions and two student positions the

3188
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,240
internal Services recovered is as I said

3189
02:27:57,240 --> 02:27:58,880
earlier is an allocation of cost to

3190
02:27:58,880 --> 02:28:00,359
other divisions in

3191
02:28:00,359 --> 02:28:03,240
2024 we added an IT Tech position to

3192
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:05,240
support different Oaks the increase in

3193
02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:07,560
internal Services recovered is an

3194
02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:09,319
allocation of the cost associated with a

3195
02:28:09,319 --> 02:28:11,720
new position to different

3196
02:28:11,720 --> 02:28:15,200
Oaks despite the added position in 2024

3197
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:17,000
salaries and benefits have a reasonable

3198
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:18,760
increase as they did have additional

3199
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:23,200
staff in 2024 to to support the website

3200
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:25,720
project other highlights Consulting fees

3201
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:27,359
include a review of the current phone

3202
02:28:27,359 --> 02:28:29,920
system graphic design support and other

3203
02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:31,800
services to ensure the Integrity of the

3204
02:28:31,800 --> 02:28:33,560
it infrastructure of

3205
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:35,800
59,000 professional fees training and

3206
02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:37,600
development of staff is over

3207
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:39,399
$80,000 and then they have a small

3208
02:28:39,399 --> 02:28:40,920
amount for legal fees to support the

3209
02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:42,000
review of

3210
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:44,800
contracts within Service delivery um

3211
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:47,080
primarily the services is to support the

3212
02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:51,150
gis at $2 29,6

3213
02:28:51,160 --> 02:28:54,640
which includes M&R air photos in 2025

3214
02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:56,439
which are updated every 3 years of

3215
02:28:56,439 --> 02:28:59,000
$6,000 and the balance is just work done

3216
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:00,880
through agreements with others and is

3217
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:06,030
offset by contributions from

3218
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:09,840
others councelor Garrett just on GIS I

3219
02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:12,800
think do we have one GIS person

3220
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:17,000
currently yeah and I think is where the

3221
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:20,960
the plan is to add somebody in 2026

3222
02:29:20,960 --> 02:29:24,920
27 we actually sorry we have one GIS and

3223
02:29:24,920 --> 02:29:27,240
then we do have a one GIS summer student

3224
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:28,840
okay and yeah the plan is to add

3225
02:29:28,840 --> 02:29:31,560
somebody I believe in 2027 oh okay yeah

3226
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:33,479
I was just wondering with all the stuff

3227
02:29:33,479 --> 02:29:35,880
that Mr Burns has proposed all the

3228
02:29:35,880 --> 02:29:39,439
additional software I think that they're

3229
02:29:39,439 --> 02:29:42,720
potentially uh GIS heavy right some of

3230
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:45,880
those the studies and the the softwares

3231
02:29:45,880 --> 02:29:47,319
I was just wondering if we need to

3232
02:29:47,319 --> 02:29:51,160
consider adding that GIS person

3233
02:29:51,160 --> 02:29:54,479
earlier um you know maybe not 2025 but

3234
02:29:54,479 --> 02:29:57,120
just more of a just like to get an OP we

3235
02:29:57,120 --> 02:30:00,120
seem pretty light on GIS staff is is all

3236
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,439
I was thinking for the size of the

3237
02:30:02,439 --> 02:30:05,080
organization through you Warden um it

3238
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:06,960
it's a great observation councelor

3239
02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:09,680
Garrett certainly additional uh GIS

3240
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:12,720
resources would be valuable and uh I

3241
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:14,240
think something that we would would

3242
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:16,640
really like to add in the future um just

3243
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:18,040
in terms of all of the additional

3244
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:20,319
Staffing positions we did go through a

3245
02:30:20,319 --> 02:30:23,800
very robust uh prioritization process at

3246
02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:26,040
the senior management level to determine

3247
02:30:26,040 --> 02:30:29,080
which positions to include in 2025 and

3248
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:31,560
um that one didn't quite make the cut

3249
02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:33,840
but um as we go through and do another

3250
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:36,439
evaluation when we move into 2026 we

3251
02:30:36,439 --> 02:30:37,840
certainly look at them all again and

3252
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:39,680
they could get reprioritized at that

3253
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:41,760
time especially as you note there is

3254
02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:44,080
this move to add additional software as

3255
02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:50,349
we're going forward okay thank you

3256
02:30:50,359 --> 02:30:52,800
um and then it and

3257
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:54,720
Communications it includes annual

3258
02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:56,960
software fees and subscriptions

3259
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:58,640
including our Microsoft Microsoft

3260
02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:00,760
licensing for the entire organization of

3261
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:02,479
just over

3262
02:31:02,479 --> 02:31:04,840
$500,000 website hosting and maintenance

3263
02:31:04,840 --> 02:31:09,359
of $39,000 software security of 334,000

3264
02:31:09,359 --> 02:31:14,550
and Hardware maintenance of just over

3265
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:18,160
$78,000 um we do have $100,000 coming

3266
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:19,920
from the rate stabilization Reserve to

3267
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:22,319
to migrate fluctuations and it related

3268
02:31:22,319 --> 02:31:25,200
costs we do have a number of contracts

3269
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:28,040
um that Renew at different times so we

3270
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:29,479
have some that renew annually some that

3271
02:31:29,479 --> 02:31:31,040
renew every two years some that renew

3272
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:33,319
every 3 years every four years so just

3273
02:31:33,319 --> 02:31:35,680
to mitigate those increases we often

3274
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:37,680
apply an amount from reserves just to

3275
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:40,720
mitigate the ups and

3276
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:43,319
downs in relation to proposed additions

3277
02:31:43,319 --> 02:31:45,600
the net increase is

3278
02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:50,359
$37,000 um there's two there in 2025

3279
02:31:50,359 --> 02:31:53,120
the to conduct a comprehensive Telecom

3280
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:55,120
System review to ensure the robust

3281
02:31:55,120 --> 02:31:57,439
robustness security adaptive

3282
02:31:57,439 --> 02:32:00,720
adaptability and cost efficiency at

3283
02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:03,439
$20,000 and to conduct a tabletop cyber

3284
02:32:03,439 --> 02:32:05,640
security exercise to prepare our team to

3285
02:32:05,640 --> 02:32:07,600
effectively respond to potential cyber

3286
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:14,309
threats of

3287
02:32:14,319 --> 02:32:16,920
$117,000 uh moving on to Capital is

3288
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:19,080
there any questions on the proposed

3289
02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:21,950
additions for it

3290
02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:24,920
straightforward um the capital asset

3291
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:27,720
fund is one of I think only two that it

3292
02:32:27,720 --> 02:32:30,960
will be going into a negative in it um

3293
02:32:30,960 --> 02:32:32,720
this is mainly due to the increase we've

3294
02:32:32,720 --> 02:32:35,560
been seeing in the prices and as we add

3295
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:37,319
more staff we certainly need more

3296
02:32:37,319 --> 02:32:40,800
equipment um there's a 6.6% increase on

3297
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:42,800
the capital Levy where I'm trying not to

3298
02:32:42,800 --> 02:32:46,319
increase it too much um from year to

3299
02:32:46,319 --> 02:32:49,920
year the balance forward is is a small

3300
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:52,319
Surplus it's just um a few small items

3301
02:32:52,319 --> 02:32:54,520
that we haven't purchased

3302
02:32:54,520 --> 02:32:57,359
yet other Revenue includes an allocation

3303
02:32:57,359 --> 02:33:00,399
from operating for new staff and then

3304
02:33:00,399 --> 02:33:04,279
transfer from Reserve is similar um

3305
02:33:04,279 --> 02:33:05,800
transfer from one Department that

3306
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:08,469
receive

3307
02:33:08,479 --> 02:33:11,160
subsidy in terms of the capital work

3308
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:16,399
plan they have $666,000 worth of work

3309
02:33:16,399 --> 02:33:18,720
planned all of their stuff falls under

3310
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:20,600
equipment and machinery

3311
02:33:20,600 --> 02:33:22,240
there's updates of the phone system at

3312
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:24,120
VAR various locations of

3313
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:26,920
$102,000 and user devices of

3314
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:30,399
$200,000 this includes laptops desktops

3315
02:33:30,399 --> 02:33:33,359
iPads and cell phones um I just want to

3316
02:33:33,359 --> 02:33:36,240
make a note on the cell phones prior to

3317
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:38,560
2025 the cell phone replacement was

3318
02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:40,720
included in operating budgets because of

3319
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:42,800
the overall value of the all of the cell

3320
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:44,800
phones that we own we decided that we

3321
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:46,279
should be capitalizing that so we've

3322
02:33:46,279 --> 02:33:47,960
moved that into the capital budget and

3323
02:33:47,960 --> 02:33:51,279
removed it from the operating

3324
02:33:51,279 --> 02:33:52,960
um and user devices also includes

3325
02:33:52,960 --> 02:33:56,479
$30,000 for the replacement of a plotter

3326
02:33:56,479 --> 02:33:59,760
it infrastructure is 364,000 includes

3327
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:01,920
Network switches wireless access points

3328
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,200
and battery backups it also includes

3329
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:08,200
$200,000 for server and storage

3330
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:11,200
replacement summarizing it the status

3331
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:14,160
quo operating is only 96% and with

3332
02:34:14,160 --> 02:34:16,760
capital it's 1.78% and then with the

3333
02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:19,520
proposed additions it's 3.2% overall any

3334
02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:23,070
question questions on

3335
02:34:23,080 --> 02:34:27,389
it okay moving on to

3336
02:34:27,399 --> 02:34:30,399
finance we

3337
02:34:30,399 --> 02:34:33,479
have next slide we have 10 full-time

3338
02:34:33,479 --> 02:34:35,359
positions and currently one contract

3339
02:34:35,359 --> 02:34:38,439
position 2025 does include a full year

3340
02:34:38,439 --> 02:34:40,439
of the new financial analyst position

3341
02:34:40,439 --> 02:34:43,150
addit in

3342
02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:46,399
2024 admin in office includes Consulting

3343
02:34:46,399 --> 02:34:48,359
update as required to the asset

3344
02:34:48,359 --> 02:34:50,240
management plan we have 40,

3345
02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:53,279
in there and as well as $50,000 from the

3346
02:34:53,279 --> 02:34:54,960
for the development charge background

3347
02:34:54,960 --> 02:34:57,600
study both of which will be offset by

3348
02:34:57,600 --> 02:34:59,520
reserves and then in it and

3349
02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:01,000
communication our largest expense

3350
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:02,319
relates to the annual fees and

3351
02:35:02,319 --> 02:35:07,550
maintenance of our existing software of

3352
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:10,399
$53,000 transfers as I stated to the

3353
02:35:10,399 --> 02:35:11,640
asset management plan and the

3354
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:13,040
development charge background study we

3355
02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:14,560
will have coming from the rate

3356
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:16,640
stabilization ideally the development

3357
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:18,200
charge background study should be funded

3358
02:35:18,200 --> 02:35:20,279
from the development charge um Reserve

3359
02:35:20,279 --> 02:35:22,479
fund but my study balance is currently

3360
02:35:22,479 --> 02:35:24,560
in a negative so which is why I'm taking

3361
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:27,510
it from rate

3362
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:29,399
stabilization um there's only two

3363
02:35:29,399 --> 02:35:31,000
divisions that have digital mod

3364
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:33,960
modernization this year uh finance and

3365
02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:34,880
people in

3366
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:38,160
equity so we have three projects on the

3367
02:35:38,160 --> 02:35:40,359
go we are in the final stages of

3368
02:35:40,359 --> 02:35:41,680
implementing our new financial

3369
02:35:41,680 --> 02:35:44,520
information system business Central um

3370
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:46,240
the money does include backfilling of a

3371
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:48,560
position to support the implementation

3372
02:35:48,560 --> 02:35:50,399
and the total costs are estimated at

3373
02:35:50,399 --> 02:35:52,520
$23,000 in

3374
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:55,120
2025 we are also implementing the new

3375
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:57,399
asset maintenance uh management system

3376
02:35:57,399 --> 02:35:59,439
that will support all divisions and

3377
02:35:59,439 --> 02:36:01,439
we're just capturing the implementation

3378
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:04,880
costs within finance and that's

3379
02:36:04,880 --> 02:36:08,040
$190,000 and then a new version of our

3380
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:10,200
existing uh budgeting software will be

3381
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:11,880
required to support the changes in

3382
02:36:11,880 --> 02:36:14,000
business Central to allow for pop proper

3383
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:15,640
integration between the systems and

3384
02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:18,560
we've budgeted $100,000 for that all

3385
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:20,080
these projects are being it through

3386
02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:21,880
reserves that we've previously set aside

3387
02:36:21,880 --> 02:36:26,309
for digital modernization

3388
02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:30,000
projects proposed additions are um

3389
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:31,120
request is

3390
02:36:31,120 --> 02:36:35,870
$171,000 for

3391
02:36:35,880 --> 02:36:38,640
2025 um we are proposing a new

3392
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,720
accounting manager and actually we

3393
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:42,840
already have this position as a contract

3394
02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:44,720
employee when we moved into the

3395
02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:46,680
implementation of the financial software

3396
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:48,080
we decided to back fill our Deputy

3397
02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:50,680
Treasurer and we so that she could focus

3398
02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:52,279
on the implementation of the project and

3399
02:36:52,279 --> 02:36:55,240
we created this new accounting position

3400
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:57,399
who supports the day-to-day and the

3401
02:36:57,399 --> 02:37:00,040
Staffing and he the positions become

3402
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:02,120
integral and what we found with the

3403
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:03,600
deputy Treasurer is she never actually

3404
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:05,600
let go a lot of her duties just because

3405
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:08,560
there's too much work to do so without

3406
02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:11,000
the added position we're going to be in

3407
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:14,680
trouble um and then the on the

3408
02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:18,600
previously committed is the is the um

3409
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:21,720
new software our new Financial software

3410
02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:23,479
the annual fees are approximately

3411
02:37:23,479 --> 02:37:26,000
$110,000 and because we're phasing it in

3412
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:29,319
it's $35,000 for 20125 and then again

3413
02:37:29,319 --> 02:37:31,960
the same software that we spoke to in

3414
02:37:31,960 --> 02:37:33,960
operations our asset and maintenance

3415
02:37:33,960 --> 02:37:36,279
management the annual fees for uh

3416
02:37:36,279 --> 02:37:39,469
Finance is

3417
02:37:39,479 --> 02:37:45,590
$1,700 any questions on

3418
02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:47,760
those so the

3419
02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:50,399
status oh pH

3420
02:37:50,399 --> 02:37:53,000
has has a

3421
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:56,160
question yeah yes thank you and and it

3422
02:37:56,160 --> 02:38:00,040
it's about the proposed uh addition of

3423
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:03,840
staff and and this comes from ignorance

3424
02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:06,240
and sort of what the CAO mentioned on

3425
02:38:06,240 --> 02:38:09,240
Monday about how um the county is a

3426
02:38:09,240 --> 02:38:12,680
different animal than than local tier I

3427
02:38:12,680 --> 02:38:15,240
understand what the finance department

3428
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:17,760
does at the town of Grand

3429
02:38:17,760 --> 02:38:20,680
Valley with collecting property taxes

3430
02:38:20,680 --> 02:38:23,160
paying stuff um I

3431
02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:27,200
am because the county doesn't collect

3432
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:28,760
those right other than sending out

3433
02:38:28,760 --> 02:38:32,720
remittances to um the local tiers I'm

3434
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:35,200
less familiar with what they do so if

3435
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:39,240
Amy or someone could provide maybe a

3436
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:42,200
general overview of of sort of the major

3437
02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:45,160
aspects of the um find or the accounting

3438
02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:47,399
Division and then why there's an extra

3439
02:38:47,399 --> 02:38:51,510
person required

3440
02:38:51,520 --> 02:38:55,760
sure um we do over 200 different reports

3441
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:58,720
to the ministry um throughout the year

3442
02:38:58,720 --> 02:39:00,319
to various Ministries actually I think

3443
02:39:00,319 --> 02:39:01,640
there's probably seven or eight

3444
02:39:01,640 --> 02:39:03,960
different Ministries so this position

3445
02:39:03,960 --> 02:39:05,720
actually helps supporting verifying the

3446
02:39:05,720 --> 02:39:06,960
information and ensuring that our

3447
02:39:06,960 --> 02:39:09,880
financial analysts have um done them

3448
02:39:09,880 --> 02:39:12,220
correctly um we process

3449
02:39:12,220 --> 02:39:15,790
[Music]

3450
02:39:15,800 --> 02:39:18,279
over I don't remember the number of we

3451
02:39:18,279 --> 02:39:20,000
we process it's in the budget bet

3452
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:23,560
document we process quite a few um

3453
02:39:23,560 --> 02:39:26,319
invoices each week uh probably five or

3454
02:39:26,319 --> 02:39:28,399
600 invoices every week we're

3455
02:39:28,399 --> 02:39:31,720
processing um our division also includes

3456
02:39:31,720 --> 02:39:33,640
payroll we only have two people within

3457
02:39:33,640 --> 02:39:36,800
payroll and that's a stretch uh what

3458
02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:39,279
else do we do the main point is

3459
02:39:39,279 --> 02:39:40,680
reporting and then doing all the

3460
02:39:40,680 --> 02:39:42,120
financial reporting and the budgeting

3461
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:43,920
here to

3462
02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:47,359
council and tax policy and Investments

3463
02:39:47,359 --> 02:39:57,510
and insurance

3464
02:39:57,520 --> 02:40:00,120
okay so the status quo budget for

3465
02:40:00,120 --> 02:40:03,760
finance is 5.17 and the total with the

3466
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:06,920
additions it's 21.8

3467
02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:14,269
3% keep

3468
02:40:14,279 --> 02:40:20,030
going you went the wrong way sorry

3469
02:40:20,040 --> 02:40:22,359
okay Corporate Finance so Corporate

3470
02:40:22,359 --> 02:40:24,399
Finance Falls within Finance but it's

3471
02:40:24,399 --> 02:40:27,479
separate um because a lot of that the

3472
02:40:27,479 --> 02:40:29,560
things that are within Corporate Finance

3473
02:40:29,560 --> 02:40:31,640
are more corporate in nature and

3474
02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:33,319
specific to finance where it's Finance

3475
02:40:33,319 --> 02:40:35,720
is really focused on the day-to-day so

3476
02:40:35,720 --> 02:40:37,439
in here we have the Investments and the

3477
02:40:37,439 --> 02:40:40,319
insurance and stuff like that um in

3478
02:40:40,319 --> 02:40:43,279
terms of Revenue the taxes included um

3479
02:40:43,279 --> 02:40:45,279
taxation includes supplemental levels

3480
02:40:45,279 --> 02:40:47,680
levies payments and lose net of tax

3481
02:40:47,680 --> 02:40:50,760
writeoffs all of which are an estimate

3482
02:40:50,760 --> 02:40:53,120
and um but we do have a reserve we can

3483
02:40:53,120 --> 02:40:55,880
draw from if we are our estimate is off

3484
02:40:55,880 --> 02:40:57,439
investment income will continue to

3485
02:40:57,439 --> 02:40:58,760
decrease as we've seen the interest

3486
02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:00,680
rates go down and then the government

3487
02:41:00,680 --> 02:41:04,520
transfers includes a subsidy for court

3488
02:41:04,520 --> 02:41:07,120
security uh the net decrease in expenses

3489
02:41:07,120 --> 02:41:08,399
is

3490
02:41:08,399 --> 02:41:11,600
$335,000 which is mainly because um the

3491
02:41:11,600 --> 02:41:14,479
next slide on you the vacancy savings we

3492
02:41:14,479 --> 02:41:17,920
actually increased that from 7 let me go

3493
02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:20,120
back from 750 to a mill ion

3494
02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:23,200
do uh to better reflect the actual it's

3495
02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:25,560
approximately 2.2% we haven't run the

3496
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:27,359
numbers but I think I spoke to you in

3497
02:41:27,359 --> 02:41:30,000
December that at the end of September of

3498
02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:34,760
this year we were just over $900,000 in

3499
02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:36,960
savings Administration and office

3500
02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:39,479
includes uh just over a million dollars

3501
02:41:39,479 --> 02:41:41,920
for Assessment Services through impact

3502
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:43,120
we make a payment to the town of

3503
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:45,240
Orangeville for Courthouse security of

3504
02:41:45,240 --> 02:41:49,720
$125,000 and our liability insurance

3505
02:41:49,720 --> 02:41:51,319
um is included in here as well as an

3506
02:41:51,319 --> 02:41:53,479
amount to cover any insurance costs that

3507
02:41:53,479 --> 02:41:55,520
are below our deductible um that all

3508
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:58,630
adds up to

3509
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:01,319
$178,000

3510
02:42:01,319 --> 02:42:03,560
transfers um you may recall a couple

3511
02:42:03,560 --> 02:42:06,920
years ago we talked about um applying

3512
02:42:06,920 --> 02:42:10,399
rate stabilization thank you to the just

3513
02:42:10,399 --> 02:42:11,760
the bottom line of the budget we

3514
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:14,640
captured in here we had proposed it to

3515
02:42:14,640 --> 02:42:15,240
be

3516
02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:18,720
$750,000 in 2025 but um because of the

3517
02:42:18,720 --> 02:42:21,319
increase in the budget and also because

3518
02:42:21,319 --> 02:42:23,359
the value of the rate stabilization is

3519
02:42:23,359 --> 02:42:24,720
quite large we felt that we could leave

3520
02:42:24,720 --> 02:42:28,750
it at a million

3521
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:33,790
dollars um so overall the net

3522
02:42:33,800 --> 02:42:38,000
um decrease technically is 84,000 or

3523
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:42,950
4.13% any questions on Corporate

3524
02:42:42,960 --> 02:42:44,680
Finance okay

3525
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:47,720
procurement um procurement has three

3526
02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:51,550
full-time staff

3527
02:42:51,560 --> 02:42:53,720
uh admin and office includes Consulting

3528
02:42:53,720 --> 02:42:55,600
fees to assist in the development of new

3529
02:42:55,600 --> 02:42:58,520
procurement templates of $55,000 legal

3530
02:42:58,520 --> 02:42:59,960
fees of

3531
02:42:59,960 --> 02:43:02,279
3,000 and we shifted the training and

3532
02:43:02,279 --> 02:43:03,960
development costs of the director of

3533
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:05,720
corporate services from other divisions

3534
02:43:05,720 --> 02:43:08,760
into those this into

3535
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:10,960
procurement um overall the net increase

3536
02:43:10,960 --> 02:43:12,279
is

3537
02:43:12,279 --> 02:43:16,000
5.35% any questions on

3538
02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:19,240
procurement pretty simple um again a

3539
02:43:19,240 --> 02:43:22,080
summary the corporate services increase

3540
02:43:22,080 --> 02:43:26,479
by um Department status quo the net is

3541
02:43:26,479 --> 02:43:28,920
1.95% and then with the proposed

3542
02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:32,389
additions it's

3543
02:43:32,399 --> 02:43:35,640
12.06% moving on to people in

3544
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:37,920
equity so we're presenting people in

3545
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:40,160
equity differently this year we split

3546
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:41,720
out to five different divisions

3547
02:43:41,720 --> 02:43:44,359
including people in equity admin Human

3548
02:43:44,359 --> 02:43:46,000
Resources Equity Learning and

3549
02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:48,000
Development and health and safety this

3550
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:50,640
department does look a little wonky as

3551
02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:52,279
you will see some divisions are way up

3552
02:43:52,279 --> 02:43:55,200
and others are way down the division is

3553
02:43:55,200 --> 02:43:56,920
very the department actually is very

3554
02:43:56,920 --> 02:43:59,680
much uh Project based so all we're

3555
02:43:59,680 --> 02:44:02,600
simply doing is Shifting um projects

3556
02:44:02,600 --> 02:44:05,279
from one division to another there are

3557
02:44:05,279 --> 02:44:09,240
two main drivers to the 11.85% increase

3558
02:44:09,240 --> 02:44:11,760
uh one is staff that we added in 2024

3559
02:44:11,760 --> 02:44:13,399
and then the second is a decrease in the

3560
02:44:13,399 --> 02:44:15,240
health and safety

3561
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:18,120
revenues in terms of um proposed

3562
02:44:18,120 --> 02:44:20,560
additions the increase now becomes

3563
02:44:20,560 --> 02:44:24,120
12.17% there's no capital in people in

3564
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:27,080
equity people in equity

3565
02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:29,800
admin um they have three full-time

3566
02:44:29,800 --> 02:44:31,960
positions there's been a lot of recent

3567
02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:34,040
retirements of long-term staff that have

3568
02:44:34,040 --> 02:44:35,399
resulted in an increase in our

3569
02:44:35,399 --> 02:44:37,840
post-retirement benefits of

3570
02:44:37,840 --> 02:44:40,080
$28,000 we're also seeing an increase in

3571
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:42,600
our non-union wsib claim costs so we've

3572
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:44,760
increased that to reflect actual but

3573
02:44:44,760 --> 02:44:46,760
those are offset by transfer from our

3574
02:44:46,760 --> 02:44:48,040
Reserve

3575
02:44:48,040 --> 02:44:50,600
fund the increase is uh as I said

3576
02:44:50,600 --> 02:44:52,840
earlier we added a new position within

3577
02:44:52,840 --> 02:44:54,479
this division which is leading to the

3578
02:44:54,479 --> 02:44:55,520
increase

3579
02:44:55,520 --> 02:44:58,720
here other highlights admin includes

3580
02:44:58,720 --> 02:45:00,479
excess Indemnity and occupational

3581
02:45:00,479 --> 02:45:02,160
accident Insurance of

3582
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:05,200
$136,000 which are both offset by the WB

3583
02:45:05,200 --> 02:45:07,800
Reserve fund long Service Awards and

3584
02:45:07,800 --> 02:45:10,640
staff events are 25,000 and Consulting

3585
02:45:10,640 --> 02:45:11,920
includes

3586
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:14,359
34,000 including a small amount for data

3587
02:45:14,359 --> 02:45:16,000
management policy and framework

3588
02:45:16,000 --> 02:45:17,200
development of

3589
02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:20,240
4,000 and then in Services recovered is

3590
02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:22,840
just an allocation from other

3591
02:45:22,840 --> 02:45:25,920
divisions transfers from wsib Reserve

3592
02:45:25,920 --> 02:45:29,160
are um put in to offset the costs of

3593
02:45:29,160 --> 02:45:31,840
claim and insurance cost and I just

3594
02:45:31,840 --> 02:45:33,600
wanted to note here that it will

3595
02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:35,319
actually end up being less because we

3596
02:45:35,319 --> 02:45:37,840
did have an excess Indemnity insurance

3597
02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:39,760
um policy that we decide not to renew

3598
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:41,319
based on recommendation from our

3599
02:45:41,319 --> 02:45:44,000
Actuarial study Consultants because the

3600
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:46,160
value of our wsib Reserve fund is

3601
02:45:46,160 --> 02:45:47,720
healthy enough that we'll be able we

3602
02:45:47,720 --> 02:45:52,990
don't we don't need that insurance

3603
02:45:53,000 --> 02:45:56,640
um for proposed additions the net is

3604
02:45:56,640 --> 02:45:59,040
zero um we've included the non-union

3605
02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:01,439
wage market review and is proposed being

3606
02:46:01,439 --> 02:46:03,439
offset by the rate uh the rate

3607
02:46:03,439 --> 02:46:04,840
stabilization Reserve because it's a

3608
02:46:04,840 --> 02:46:06,920
onetime

3609
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:10,080
thing and then the financial summary the

3610
02:46:10,080 --> 02:46:12,760
status quo and the proposed um with the

3611
02:46:12,760 --> 02:46:15,560
proposed increases is 30.9 7% increase

3612
02:46:15,560 --> 02:46:18,000
any questions on the people in equity

3613
02:46:18,000 --> 02:46:26,469
admin

3614
02:46:26,479 --> 02:46:28,200
um just ever so quickly I appreciate the

3615
02:46:28,200 --> 02:46:29,640
way that was described and certainly

3616
02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:32,200
we've been over this I'm just curious on

3617
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:33,920
those positions that we've added

3618
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:36,760
recently specifically the investigator

3619
02:46:36,760 --> 02:46:38,640
um I think a lot of us were curious how

3620
02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:41,200
that was going to go it it would be

3621
02:46:41,200 --> 02:46:44,520
great if over time we had discussions

3622
02:46:44,520 --> 02:46:47,120
about how that's going and like a little

3623
02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:50,040
progress report and was it a investment

3624
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:53,880
or not and if I could um that it would

3625
02:46:53,880 --> 02:46:55,600
be the same comment I would have about

3626
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:58,279
procurement as well um certainly don't

3627
02:46:58,279 --> 02:46:59,760
doubt that good works are being done

3628
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:00,960
there by any stretch but it would be

3629
02:47:00,960 --> 02:47:03,319
great to understand um what is the

3630
02:47:03,319 --> 02:47:06,720
savings and um you know what value are

3631
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:09,160
they bringing longer term and just be

3632
02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:11,200
great outside of this so it's maybe not

3633
02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:13,000
a budget question but certainly

3634
02:47:13,000 --> 02:47:14,040
understand that both departments are

3635
02:47:14,040 --> 02:47:16,880
doing great great work but would love to

3636
02:47:16,880 --> 02:47:19,560
have a few details and just a check in

3637
02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:22,920
at some point and uh appreciate what

3638
02:47:22,920 --> 02:47:26,230
what the numbers

3639
02:47:26,240 --> 02:47:30,349
are thanks

3640
02:47:30,359 --> 02:47:34,040
Todd Phil apparently you're

3641
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:38,520
online and would like to answer a ask a

3642
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:41,080
question yeah I can't answer my question

3643
02:47:41,080 --> 02:47:43,000
but I will ask

3644
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:46,279
it um and it's about the wage market

3645
02:47:46,279 --> 02:47:48,479
review and earlier Rohan said we'

3646
02:47:48,479 --> 02:47:49,680
committed

3647
02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:51,920
doing it every four years I I just want

3648
02:47:51,920 --> 02:47:53,680
to make sure because I couldn't remember

3649
02:47:53,680 --> 02:47:55,920
if we did it in 21 22 so I'm assuming we

3650
02:47:55,920 --> 02:47:58,439
did it in 21 the last

3651
02:47:58,439 --> 02:48:01,200
time

3652
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:06,150
affirmative easy

3653
02:48:06,160 --> 02:48:09,000
peasy okay moving on to Human Resources

3654
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,399
oh hang on we have one more question

3655
02:48:11,399 --> 02:48:14,200
Philip's question just me so that that

3656
02:48:14,200 --> 02:48:17,600
market review that you have those those

3657
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:20,399
findings would be not for this Council

3658
02:48:20,399 --> 02:48:22,720
correct like we would we' Implement at a

3659
02:48:22,720 --> 02:48:23,760
later date because there's really

3660
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:25,319
there's two things there's there's staff

3661
02:48:25,319 --> 02:48:27,359
and then there's there's Council so

3662
02:48:27,359 --> 02:48:31,950
you're going to do do both in

3663
02:48:31,960 --> 02:48:37,520
2025 so be 2026 well so I'm curious I'm

3664
02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:38,760
curious when you're going to implement

3665
02:48:38,760 --> 02:48:40,520
and I guess what year so it's 2025

3666
02:48:40,520 --> 02:48:42,520
you're going to do it and then you

3667
02:48:42,520 --> 02:48:45,000
implement post this Council yeah through

3668
02:48:45,000 --> 02:48:47,160
you chair so yes uh the not what we're

3669
02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:48,800
talking about is the non-union wage

3670
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:51,160
market review and so um the review would

3671
02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,640
take part in happen in 2025 and we would

3672
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:57,910
look to implement in

3673
02:48:57,920 --> 02:49:00,120
2026 you are going to do one for Council

3674
02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:02,240
though too

3675
02:49:02,240 --> 02:49:05,880
right go ahead through you Warden uh

3676
02:49:05,880 --> 02:49:07,840
there is uh one done for council at the

3677
02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:09,359
end of every term of council for

3678
02:49:09,359 --> 02:49:11,840
implementation in the next

3679
02:49:11,840 --> 02:49:14,479
term and that doesn't come in 2025 it

3680
02:49:14,479 --> 02:49:23,309
comes in 2026 correct thank you

3681
02:49:23,319 --> 02:49:28,990
okay Human

3682
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:31,319
Resources okay Human Resources has six

3683
02:49:31,319 --> 02:49:33,840
full-time positions and one

3684
02:49:33,840 --> 02:49:38,000
student highlights include um legal fees

3685
02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:39,200
of

3686
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:42,200
$65,000 they have $155,000 included for

3687
02:49:42,200 --> 02:49:44,120
specialized recruitment advertising to

3688
02:49:44,120 --> 02:49:47,880
Target under Service Groups and then um

3689
02:49:47,880 --> 02:49:50,120
internal service is recovered they do

3690
02:49:50,120 --> 02:49:53,040
have additional Staffing costs um

3691
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:54,720
they're directly that directly support

3692
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:58,030
Duff

3693
02:49:58,040 --> 02:50:00,439
NOS digital modernization this is the

3694
02:50:00,439 --> 02:50:02,080
other division that has digital

3695
02:50:02,080 --> 02:50:04,239
modernization implementation of a human

3696
02:50:04,239 --> 02:50:07,200
resource information system is estimated

3697
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:09,520
$350,000 work on this project began in

3698
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:12,279
2020 2024 with final product selection

3699
02:50:12,279 --> 02:50:14,479
expected in early 2025 with

3700
02:50:14,479 --> 02:50:16,239
implementation to

3701
02:50:16,239 --> 02:50:19,560
follow the $350,000 is an estimate and

3702
02:50:19,560 --> 02:50:21,840
it is possible May way may require more

3703
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:23,720
funds if that is the case we will

3704
02:50:23,720 --> 02:50:25,359
present bring a report to Council of

3705
02:50:25,359 --> 02:50:27,479
course um and as part of the digital

3706
02:50:27,479 --> 02:50:29,479
modernization project costs associated

3707
02:50:29,479 --> 02:50:31,439
with this project will be offset by

3708
02:50:31,439 --> 02:50:33,359
reserves set aside specifically for

3709
02:50:33,359 --> 02:50:36,150
these

3710
02:50:36,160 --> 02:50:40,319
items uh summarizing HR status quo is

3711
02:50:40,319 --> 02:50:42,520
2.49% the digital projects of course

3712
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:44,399
have no

3713
02:50:44,399 --> 02:50:47,399
impact um but there will be impacts in

3714
02:50:47,399 --> 02:50:49,319
future years when we bring the the um

3715
02:50:49,319 --> 02:50:54,359
annual fees on so they're yeah it's

3716
02:50:54,359 --> 02:50:56,760
2.49% moving on to

3717
02:50:56,760 --> 02:50:59,439
equity there are two full-time staff in

3718
02:50:59,439 --> 02:51:01,040
equity the one position was added in

3719
02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:02,920
2024 hence the large increase to

3720
02:51:02,920 --> 02:51:05,120
salaries and

3721
02:51:05,120 --> 02:51:07,520
benefits highlights corporate training

3722
02:51:07,520 --> 02:51:09,880
includes $20,000 for the balance owing

3723
02:51:09,880 --> 02:51:11,680
for the anti-racism training which began

3724
02:51:11,680 --> 02:51:14,120
in 2024 which will be offset by transfer

3725
02:51:14,120 --> 02:51:17,000
from Reserve we have $40,000 for

3726
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:19,479
Keynotes for days of significant

3727
02:51:19,479 --> 02:51:21,080
2 S

3728
02:51:21,080 --> 02:51:24,120
lgbtq Plus people leader training

3729
02:51:24,120 --> 02:51:26,720
$4,000 indigenous education for people

3730
02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:27,720
leaders of

3731
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:30,239
35,000 and then we have Consulting fees

3732
02:51:30,239 --> 02:51:32,479
including which includes 15,000 to

3733
02:51:32,479 --> 02:51:33,960
support policy

3734
02:51:33,960 --> 02:51:36,479
development and then within Service

3735
02:51:36,479 --> 02:51:39,319
delivery uh We've included $330,000 for

3736
02:51:39,319 --> 02:51:42,830
Community discussion

3737
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:45,760
series uh transfer shows the mount from

3738
02:51:45,760 --> 02:51:53,110
anti-racism

3739
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:55,359
uh I just had a question about uh the

3740
02:51:55,359 --> 02:51:57,760
training so so many of these training

3741
02:51:57,760 --> 02:52:00,120
programs have been common in workplaces

3742
02:52:00,120 --> 02:52:03,319
for 10 15 years or so um I'm not sure

3743
02:52:03,319 --> 02:52:04,880
how long they've been rolled out here at

3744
02:52:04,880 --> 02:52:08,680
the county but um is there any attempt

3745
02:52:08,680 --> 02:52:10,960
to do any evaluation of the programming

3746
02:52:10,960 --> 02:52:13,880
in terms of uh any impact they're having

3747
02:52:13,880 --> 02:52:16,239
with staff on their work or on the

3748
02:52:16,239 --> 02:52:18,960
morale like positive or negative is are

3749
02:52:18,960 --> 02:52:20,800
we are we doing an evaluation on these

3750
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:22,319
these trainings and and the impact that

3751
02:52:22,319 --> 02:52:23,080
they're

3752
02:52:23,080 --> 02:52:25,160
having

3753
02:52:25,160 --> 02:52:29,120
ran uh through you Warden um short

3754
02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:32,960
answer uh around um so the mandatory

3755
02:52:32,960 --> 02:52:35,640
trainings uh that we done so far for

3756
02:52:35,640 --> 02:52:38,800
people leaders uh we we do do an

3757
02:52:38,800 --> 02:52:42,399
evaluation um in in terms of uh yeah so

3758
02:52:42,399 --> 02:52:44,279
we do do an evaluation for the mandatory

3759
02:52:44,279 --> 02:52:48,080
trainings um in the um at last council

3760
02:52:48,080 --> 02:52:50,720
meeting uh we had brought forward uh a

3761
02:52:50,720 --> 02:52:54,479
report um just doing sort of INE Equity

3762
02:52:54,479 --> 02:52:56,120
uh people in equity Department status

3763
02:52:56,120 --> 02:52:59,000
update and there was a a section in that

3764
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:01,760
report that really spoke to evaluation

3765
02:53:01,760 --> 02:53:03,600
um and so and the results of those

3766
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:07,640
evaluation uh coming from from staff um

3767
02:53:07,640 --> 02:53:09,600
the around the trainings that we do that

3768
02:53:09,600 --> 02:53:13,920
are um are voluntary uh we are not doing

3769
02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:16,160
um evaluations for those that uh that

3770
02:53:16,160 --> 02:53:18,520
aren't voluntary uh but it would be easy

3771
02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:21,760
easy enough to do um an evaluation for

3772
02:53:21,760 --> 02:53:24,279
those trainings that are not mandatory

3773
02:53:24,279 --> 02:53:27,680
um for for staff and so

3774
02:53:27,680 --> 02:53:30,920
um within the broader sort of picture of

3775
02:53:30,920 --> 02:53:34,520
the of the equity strategy um was noted

3776
02:53:34,520 --> 02:53:37,760
from staff that uh the provision of a

3777
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:41,279
whole host of trainings uh related to

3778
02:53:41,279 --> 02:53:44,439
equity psychological safety inclusion um

3779
02:53:44,439 --> 02:53:45,880
so we're trying to be responsive to

3780
02:53:45,880 --> 02:53:49,760
those uh identified um uh requirements

3781
02:53:49,760 --> 02:53:53,469
and requests from

3782
02:53:53,479 --> 02:53:56,080
staff are you okay with that

3783
02:53:56,080 --> 02:53:58,399
James yeah thank

3784
02:53:58,399 --> 02:54:02,080
you Phil I understand you have a

3785
02:54:02,080 --> 02:54:05,479
question uh thank you I wondering if we

3786
02:54:05,479 --> 02:54:08,760
could just go back to uh the recruitment

3787
02:54:08,760 --> 02:54:10,880
advertising that was mentioned briefly

3788
02:54:10,880 --> 02:54:14,040
and if Rohan could give um sort of a

3789
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:16,640
description of that I miss from what I

3790
02:54:16,640 --> 02:54:18,920
understood well no how about I just ask

3791
02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:22,200
for what that's going to be um and out

3792
02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:24,710
of

3793
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:28,560
curiosity um uh through you uh Warden uh

3794
02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:32,399
great question uh so um in addition to

3795
02:54:32,399 --> 02:54:34,720
sort of the traditional sort of Legacy

3796
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:37,840
websites that we use to to post all of

3797
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:40,479
our external postings uh when we are

3798
02:54:40,479 --> 02:54:43,800
posting externally for jobs uh we also

3799
02:54:43,800 --> 02:54:47,120
um have uh work we're working with a

3800
02:54:47,120 --> 02:54:51,000
about three um sort of community uh

3801
02:54:51,000 --> 02:54:54,000
Community specific job boards uh and

3802
02:54:54,000 --> 02:54:55,640
those are around persons with

3803
02:54:55,640 --> 02:54:58,399
disabilities uh indigenous um uh

3804
02:54:58,399 --> 02:55:01,920
indigenous Community uh and the 2s lgbtq

3805
02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:04,840
plus community and so these are

3806
02:55:04,840 --> 02:55:07,160
organizations that cater directly

3807
02:55:07,160 --> 02:55:09,640
towards those particular communities and

3808
02:55:09,640 --> 02:55:12,439
so we also post all of our external jobs

3809
02:55:12,439 --> 02:55:15,200
to those communities to try to enhance

3810
02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:18,520
um uh to to have a more robust uh pool

3811
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:28,710
of recruits uh for all of our job

3812
02:55:28,720 --> 02:55:32,000
postings you have more questions Phil no

3813
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:33,880
no just to summarize so this is

3814
02:55:33,880 --> 02:55:37,880
basically a way of just getting word out

3815
02:55:37,880 --> 02:55:42,560
as as far as possible to find qualified

3816
02:55:42,560 --> 02:55:51,070
candidates affirmative yes on

3817
02:55:51,080 --> 02:55:56,439
okay okay uh the summary for Equity um

3818
02:55:56,439 --> 02:55:59,160
status quote increase is 7.19% with no

3819
02:55:59,160 --> 02:56:02,469
proposed additions until

3820
02:56:02,479 --> 02:56:05,990
2027 health and

3821
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:09,640
safety government transfers is the money

3822
02:56:09,640 --> 02:56:11,720
that we get from lower tiers we now only

3823
02:56:11,720 --> 02:56:13,399
have three utilizing the county health

3824
02:56:13,399 --> 02:56:14,479
and safety

3825
02:56:14,479 --> 02:56:16,680
Services um plus we had a change in the

3826
02:56:16,680 --> 02:56:18,880
funding model as a result at in revenues

3827
02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:22,150
from the lower

3828
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:25,160
tiers expenses are down

3829
02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:26,680
$133,000

3830
02:56:26,680 --> 02:56:30,640
um this division includes one full-time

3831
02:56:30,640 --> 02:56:32,880
position and we reduce the

3832
02:56:32,880 --> 02:56:35,200
Staffing um because we removed a student

3833
02:56:35,200 --> 02:56:37,279
position that we just haven't been

3834
02:56:37,279 --> 02:56:40,239
filling service delivery includes costs

3835
02:56:40,239 --> 02:56:42,200
for training provided to other divisions

3836
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:45,040
or organizations and there's 100% offset

3837
02:56:45,040 --> 02:56:48,630
by other Revenue

3838
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:51,520
traditionally we uh offset approximately

3839
02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:54,479
50% of the health and safety costs from

3840
02:56:54,479 --> 02:56:56,720
the wsib reserve fund so we have

3841
02:56:56,720 --> 02:56:59,600
continued to do

3842
02:56:59,600 --> 02:57:03,319
that proposed additions uh some small

3843
02:57:03,319 --> 02:57:05,560
additions here new health and wellness

3844
02:57:05,560 --> 02:57:07,960
program to Pro promote employee wellness

3845
02:57:07,960 --> 02:57:09,479
and well-being of

3846
02:57:09,479 --> 02:57:12,200
$2,500 and a series of events to promote

3847
02:57:12,200 --> 02:57:17,150
health and safety work week of

3848
02:57:17,160 --> 02:57:19,479
$4,000 summarizing health and safety the

3849
02:57:19,479 --> 02:57:23,239
status quo increase shows 100% because

3850
02:57:23,239 --> 02:57:25,439
previously it was not on the tax levy

3851
02:57:25,439 --> 02:57:27,120
with approximately half coming from the

3852
02:57:27,120 --> 02:57:29,439
de IB reserve and half from others that

3853
02:57:29,439 --> 02:57:32,040
use the service uh this is one we have

3854
02:57:32,040 --> 02:57:34,279
one of the largest increases in people

3855
02:57:34,279 --> 02:57:35,840
in

3856
02:57:35,840 --> 02:57:38,760
equity any questions on that

3857
02:57:38,760 --> 02:57:40,680
division moving to learning and

3858
02:57:40,680 --> 02:57:43,790
organizational

3859
02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:46,600
development this division has only one

3860
02:57:46,600 --> 02:57:49,160
employee one position

3861
02:57:49,160 --> 02:57:50,720
some highlights corporate training

3862
02:57:50,720 --> 02:57:53,319
includes Conflict Management resolution

3863
02:57:53,319 --> 02:57:56,200
train the trainer for duffen Oaks staff

3864
02:57:56,200 --> 02:57:59,120
$20,000 a leadershop workshop series of

3865
02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:01,680
$10,000 and training to build capacity

3866
02:58:01,680 --> 02:58:03,840
of management to support mental health

3867
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:06,880
in the workplace is 7 Consulting fees

3868
02:58:06,880 --> 02:58:08,640
include development of a leadership core

3869
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:10,560
competency identified in the equity

3870
02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:13,750
audit of

3871
02:58:13,760 --> 02:58:17,120
$60,000 transfers we are pulling from

3872
02:58:17,120 --> 02:58:18,640
the rate stabilization for the different

3873
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:21,399
Oaks train the trainer at $220,000 and

3874
02:58:21,399 --> 02:58:23,200
then the development of the leadership

3875
02:58:23,200 --> 02:58:24,479
car competencies because it's the

3876
02:58:24,479 --> 02:58:28,269
onetime cost of

3877
02:58:28,279 --> 02:58:30,080
$6,000 uh

3878
02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:33,239
summary the sizeus quot increases down

3879
02:58:33,239 --> 02:58:35,960
8.55 because we've shifted costs to

3880
02:58:35,960 --> 02:58:36,760
other

3881
02:58:36,760 --> 02:58:41,349
divisions any questions on Learning and

3882
02:58:41,359 --> 02:58:44,279
Development councelor Mills thank you

3883
02:58:44,279 --> 02:58:46,319
madam this may not be the the

3884
02:58:46,319 --> 02:58:48,239
place to ask but but it it's why I'm

3885
02:58:48,239 --> 02:58:51,399
going to ask how how do we budget for um

3886
02:58:51,399 --> 02:58:54,520
for conferences for staff and and in

3887
02:58:54,520 --> 02:58:56,160
particular senior staff that the reason

3888
02:58:56,160 --> 02:58:59,120
I'm asking I've noticed over the last

3889
02:58:59,120 --> 02:59:01,680
few years that you know Duff's

3890
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:04,720
representation at Roma Amo I I suspect

3891
02:59:04,720 --> 02:59:07,560
fcm is the same when it comes to our

3892
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:10,040
senior staff is pretty light as compared

3893
02:59:10,040 --> 02:59:11,760
to a lot of other counties and and I'm

3894
02:59:11,760 --> 02:59:14,160
just wondering if if there's a gap there

3895
02:59:14,160 --> 02:59:15,560
in the budget and and we're just not

3896
02:59:15,560 --> 02:59:17,720
allocating enough money for our senior

3897
02:59:17,720 --> 02:59:20,439
staff to take advantage of these who am

3898
02:59:20,439 --> 02:59:22,640
I sending this one

3899
02:59:22,640 --> 02:59:25,920
to D you Warden uh the the amount for

3900
02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:27,680
conferences for senior staff is included

3901
02:59:27,680 --> 02:59:29,239
in their individual budgets under

3902
02:59:29,239 --> 02:59:31,760
conferences and um

3903
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:34,600
certainly there likely is some room in

3904
02:59:34,600 --> 02:59:37,640
those budgets for staff to attend Amo

3905
02:59:37,640 --> 02:59:40,960
and and fcm and some of those other uh

3906
02:59:40,960 --> 02:59:44,319
broader conferences um that's a

3907
02:59:44,319 --> 02:59:46,239
discussion we can have there just hasn't

3908
02:59:46,239 --> 02:59:49,520
been I don't think um

3909
02:59:49,520 --> 02:59:52,040
the need the need to do so but I I do

3910
02:59:52,040 --> 02:59:53,080
hear your point about there being

3911
02:59:53,080 --> 02:59:54,720
additional representation from other

3912
02:59:54,720 --> 02:59:56,080
counties and that's definitely something

3913
02:59:56,080 --> 03:00:01,429
we can look

3914
03:00:01,439 --> 03:00:04,840
at okay um the next slides are just

3915
03:00:04,840 --> 03:00:08,120
summarizing the status quo and the um

3916
03:00:08,120 --> 03:00:11,439
proposed increases for

3917
03:00:11,439 --> 03:00:14,479
uh people in equity any so there's no

3918
03:00:14,479 --> 03:00:20,150
more questions that concludes ggs

3919
03:00:20,160 --> 03:00:22,080
thank you

3920
03:00:22,080 --> 03:00:26,840
Amy so are we breaking for a dinner

3921
03:00:26,840 --> 03:00:31,040
break here yeah okay and we'll return

3922
03:00:31,040 --> 03:00:34,239
back to the table

3923
03:00:34,239 --> 03:00:36,720
at 6:30

3924
03:00:36,720 --> 03:00:40,040
6:30 6:30

3925
03:00:40,040 --> 03:00:44,640
okay and the meal is I think it's in the

3926
03:00:44,640 --> 03:00:46,920
kitchen straight down the hall okay all

3927
03:00:46,920 --> 03:01:16,910
right

3928
03:01:16,920 --> 03:27:13,670
e e

3929
03:27:13,680 --> 03:27:17,000
okay folks we'll uh come back to order

3930
03:27:17,000 --> 03:27:20,040
and uh Amy is going to continue the Amy

3931
03:27:20,040 --> 03:27:23,720
show and I see Raj is in the hot seat uh

3932
03:27:23,720 --> 03:27:26,439
next so uh we'll continue on with

3933
03:27:26,439 --> 03:27:30,030
Community Development and

3934
03:27:30,040 --> 03:27:32,520
Tourism thank you we'll just wait uh to

3935
03:27:32,520 --> 03:27:40,110
get the presentation

3936
03:27:40,120 --> 03:27:42,439
up okay we're moving into Community

3937
03:27:42,439 --> 03:27:51,510
Development and Tourism

3938
03:27:51,520 --> 03:27:53,399
I don't have any questions on

3939
03:27:53,399 --> 03:27:57,910
this not

3940
03:27:57,920 --> 03:28:00,080
yet just having some technical

3941
03:28:00,080 --> 03:28:15,110
difficulties there we go

3942
03:28:15,120 --> 03:28:56,950
no e

3943
03:28:56,960 --> 03:29:00,080
okay development tourism has four

3944
03:29:00,080 --> 03:29:01,800
divisions uh you can go to the next

3945
03:29:01,800 --> 03:29:04,600
slide building shows as zero because

3946
03:29:04,600 --> 03:29:06,239
there's no Reliance on the tax levy

3947
03:29:06,239 --> 03:29:08,840
combined the Departments are up 4.8%

3948
03:29:08,840 --> 03:29:10,960
status

3949
03:29:10,960 --> 03:29:13,359
quo and with proposed additions it's

3950
03:29:13,359 --> 03:29:16,630
5.93%

3951
03:29:16,640 --> 03:29:19,000
the museum does propose some changes but

3952
03:29:19,000 --> 03:29:21,960
the uh the revenue and the expense is n

3953
03:29:21,960 --> 03:29:25,239
to zero so it looks like there's no

3954
03:29:25,239 --> 03:29:27,560
increase

3955
03:29:27,560 --> 03:29:30,000
Capital so similar to the other ones you

3956
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:31,720
see the orange line which is the value

3957
03:29:31,720 --> 03:29:33,160
of the capital asset fund going up and

3958
03:29:33,160 --> 03:29:35,720
down and the blue line Remains the

3959
03:29:35,720 --> 03:29:44,510
Same and Museum and building both have

3960
03:29:44,520 --> 03:29:48,520
capital okay moving on on to Building

3961
03:29:48,520 --> 03:29:51,960
Services let's start with revenues um an

3962
03:29:51,960 --> 03:29:53,600
amendment was made to our current fee

3963
03:29:53,600 --> 03:29:55,720
schedule that will be in effect January

3964
03:29:55,720 --> 03:29:58,080
1st the Amendments capture permit fees

3965
03:29:58,080 --> 03:30:00,080
for new items added to the building code

3966
03:30:00,080 --> 03:30:02,640
increase fees for non-conforming permits

3967
03:30:02,640 --> 03:30:05,120
and Enforcement cases and to provide

3968
03:30:05,120 --> 03:30:07,600
further Clarity where there was room for

3969
03:30:07,600 --> 03:30:09,439
misinterpretation even with all that it

3970
03:30:09,439 --> 03:30:11,600
is still difficult to project what the

3971
03:30:11,600 --> 03:30:13,720
actual activity will

3972
03:30:13,720 --> 03:30:17,399
be um

3973
03:30:17,399 --> 03:30:20,479
so the permit revenues do in have a

3974
03:30:20,479 --> 03:30:22,880
small increase and we did remove

3975
03:30:22,880 --> 03:30:25,880
amran the other revenue is a recovery

3976
03:30:25,880 --> 03:30:27,439
from The Institute for National disaster

3977
03:30:27,439 --> 03:30:29,880
for the hurricane clip

3978
03:30:29,880 --> 03:30:33,080
program moving on to expenses expenses

3979
03:30:33,080 --> 03:30:35,239
are up 38,000 or

3980
03:30:35,239 --> 03:30:37,920
1.87% salaries and benefits include 10

3981
03:30:37,920 --> 03:30:40,000
full-time staff one contract and one

3982
03:30:40,000 --> 03:30:41,399
summer student

3983
03:30:41,399 --> 03:30:43,760
position other highlights it

3984
03:30:43,760 --> 03:30:46,359
communication includes the annual fee of

3985
03:30:46,359 --> 03:30:49,680
about $115,000 for City

3986
03:30:49,680 --> 03:30:52,439
View vehicles and Equipment they will

3987
03:30:52,439 --> 03:30:55,520
see a savings as they've shifted to

3988
03:30:55,520 --> 03:30:58,080
electric vehicles and then internal

3989
03:30:58,080 --> 03:31:00,640
Services used is a lot of those

3990
03:31:00,640 --> 03:31:02,680
recovered amounts that we've pulled in

3991
03:31:02,680 --> 03:31:03,380
from other

3992
03:31:03,380 --> 03:31:06,510
[Music]

3993
03:31:06,520 --> 03:31:10,120
divisions bill you have a

3994
03:31:10,120 --> 03:31:13,319
question I am yes thank you through you

3995
03:31:13,319 --> 03:31:17,279
Warden um the difference

3996
03:31:17,279 --> 03:31:21,239
between um revenues and expenses is

3997
03:31:21,239 --> 03:31:24,199
massive now I understand that it doesn't

3998
03:31:24,199 --> 03:31:26,920
directly impact the levy but it is

3999
03:31:26,920 --> 03:31:30,800
eventually going to impact um fees and I

4000
03:31:30,800 --> 03:31:34,000
I'm I don't remember it being that big

4001
03:31:34,000 --> 03:31:36,720
Amy could you and I don't know this

4002
03:31:36,720 --> 03:31:38,640
isn't your department um but could you

4003
03:31:38,640 --> 03:31:42,319
speak to when the Gap got so big and is

4004
03:31:42,319 --> 03:31:47,120
it simply a and and why if possible

4005
03:31:47,120 --> 03:31:50,040
yeah uh through you Warden um we added a

4006
03:31:50,040 --> 03:31:53,479
few more staff the last few years

4007
03:31:53,479 --> 03:31:57,160
um two or three or maybe even I think

4008
03:31:57,160 --> 03:32:00,080
three three in the last few years which

4009
03:32:00,080 --> 03:32:01,439
has pushed it up one of them is a

4010
03:32:01,439 --> 03:32:03,359
contract position that is due to end

4011
03:32:03,359 --> 03:32:04,960
next year I believe the

4012
03:32:04,960 --> 03:32:12,590
2-year um contract does that answer your

4013
03:32:12,600 --> 03:32:15,520
question yeah yeah it doesn't seem to

4014
03:32:15,520 --> 03:32:17,680
count

4015
03:32:17,680 --> 03:32:20,279
for like they're double right expenses I

4016
03:32:20,279 --> 03:32:25,990
think are double revenues even

4017
03:32:26,000 --> 03:32:28,319
more yeah the other piece too like I

4018
03:32:28,319 --> 03:32:31,199
said earlier the the actual revenues are

4019
03:32:31,199 --> 03:32:33,199
really really hard to estimate so we

4020
03:32:33,199 --> 03:32:35,359
kind of go off of what we think they'll

4021
03:32:35,359 --> 03:32:37,359
be what they've been in the past year or

4022
03:32:37,359 --> 03:32:40,359
two um and nine times out a 10 it always

4023
03:32:40,359 --> 03:32:42,479
ends up being more than what we budget

4024
03:32:42,479 --> 03:32:44,840
so we end up put either taking less out

4025
03:32:44,840 --> 03:32:46,359
of the reserve or even putting money

4026
03:32:46,359 --> 03:32:47,880
into the reserve

4027
03:32:47,880 --> 03:32:51,359
fund um but to and I don't mean to

4028
03:32:51,359 --> 03:32:52,920
belabor the point I don't think you have

4029
03:32:52,920 --> 03:32:56,040
a year where you're where you're H

4030
03:32:56,040 --> 03:33:01,479
projecting to cover costs up to 2028 if

4031
03:33:01,479 --> 03:33:05,150
I look that that chart

4032
03:33:05,160 --> 03:33:07,960
correctly yeah I think if I think if you

4033
03:33:07,960 --> 03:33:10,479
do look out to 2028 we will not have

4034
03:33:10,479 --> 03:33:13,550
enough money in the reserve

4035
03:33:13,560 --> 03:33:18,670
fund okay

4036
03:33:18,680 --> 03:33:25,189
okay transfers we were talking about um

4037
03:33:25,199 --> 03:33:29,160
the sorry through you Warden um uh just

4038
03:33:29,160 --> 03:33:31,000
to address councelor wrench's question

4039
03:33:31,000 --> 03:33:33,319
there um we are expecting to have lower

4040
03:33:33,319 --> 03:33:35,080
permit numbers therefore there would be

4041
03:33:35,080 --> 03:33:37,560
lower Revenue however we will see this

4042
03:33:37,560 --> 03:33:39,399
rise again as you can take a look at

4043
03:33:39,399 --> 03:33:41,880
that graph you will see dips and Es and

4044
03:33:41,880 --> 03:33:45,040
flows um and this is predicted um

4045
03:33:45,040 --> 03:33:47,080
through the per fee study that we have

4046
03:33:47,080 --> 03:33:51,640
undertaken so um it will eventually go

4047
03:33:51,640 --> 03:33:54,040
up it's and like Amy mentioned it's it's

4048
03:33:54,040 --> 03:33:56,120
sort of hard to predict at this point

4049
03:33:56,120 --> 03:33:57,680
what exactly we're going to be seeing in

4050
03:33:57,680 --> 03:33:59,880
terms of permit numbers but um I just

4051
03:33:59,880 --> 03:34:08,030
wanted to add that as a point of

4052
03:34:08,040 --> 03:34:10,520
clarification okay we are proposed well

4053
03:34:10,520 --> 03:34:12,439
weit because it balances out to zero we

4054
03:34:12,439 --> 03:34:14,359
have $1.2 million coming from the

4055
03:34:14,359 --> 03:34:18,630
reserve fund in

4056
03:34:18,640 --> 03:34:21,760
2025 and in summary because there's no

4057
03:34:21,760 --> 03:34:23,720
impact on the levy it's 0% increase for

4058
03:34:23,720 --> 03:34:28,510
building any other questions for

4059
03:34:28,520 --> 03:34:33,349
building okay moving on to the Museum of

4060
03:34:33,359 --> 03:34:36,199
defn uh user fees include programs and

4061
03:34:36,199 --> 03:34:38,760
tours Admissions and membership revenues

4062
03:34:38,760 --> 03:34:41,000
government transfer includes a onetime

4063
03:34:41,000 --> 03:34:43,120
or the grant that we receive annually

4064
03:34:43,120 --> 03:34:44,840
which honestly I don't think it's ever

4065
03:34:44,840 --> 03:34:46,160
changed

4066
03:34:46,160 --> 03:34:48,760
since I started at the county um other

4067
03:34:48,760 --> 03:34:51,199
Revenue includes an increase in

4068
03:34:51,199 --> 03:34:52,680
Consignment Sales to better reflect what

4069
03:34:52,680 --> 03:34:54,439
are actual has been and an increase in

4070
03:34:54,439 --> 03:34:55,840
fundraising Revenue to support

4071
03:34:55,840 --> 03:34:59,510
interactive exhibits to

4072
03:34:59,520 --> 03:35:02,439
$38,000 on the expense side it's up

4073
03:35:02,439 --> 03:35:04,560
6.34% the museum includes seven

4074
03:35:04,560 --> 03:35:06,279
full-time positions one part-time

4075
03:35:06,279 --> 03:35:09,319
position and four student

4076
03:35:09,319 --> 03:35:12,000
interns highlights uh supplies and

4077
03:35:12,000 --> 03:35:13,760
Exhibits have increased to

4078
03:35:13,760 --> 03:35:16,199
$48,500 to allow for more interactive

4079
03:35:16,199 --> 03:35:18,880
program Pro programming partially offset

4080
03:35:18,880 --> 03:35:20,399
by additional fundraising revenues

4081
03:35:20,399 --> 03:35:24,840
programming costs um are $19,500

4082
03:35:24,840 --> 03:35:27,600
it and Communications we have software

4083
03:35:27,600 --> 03:35:30,199
licensing fees have increased to

4084
03:35:30,199 --> 03:35:32,359
17,300 and website hosting and

4085
03:35:32,359 --> 03:35:34,840
maintenance costs have increased to

4086
03:35:34,840 --> 03:35:37,520
11,500 facilities include snow clearing

4087
03:35:37,520 --> 03:35:40,640
of 15,800 which decreased by nearly half

4088
03:35:40,640 --> 03:35:42,239
we have a small decrease in cleaning

4089
03:35:42,239 --> 03:35:44,000
cost to

4090
03:35:44,000 --> 03:35:48,000
44,000 um and then general maintenance

4091
03:35:48,000 --> 03:35:50,160
has a small increase to

4092
03:35:50,160 --> 03:35:52,319
$75,000 and the internal Services

4093
03:35:52,319 --> 03:35:54,120
recovered is just an allocation of

4094
03:35:54,120 --> 03:35:55,800
support costs primarily from the

4095
03:35:55,800 --> 03:35:58,199
facility

4096
03:35:58,199 --> 03:36:00,680
staff transfers a small amount is

4097
03:36:00,680 --> 03:36:03,080
included to offset operating cost each

4098
03:36:03,080 --> 03:36:07,800
year $88,000 from the museum trust any

4099
03:36:07,800 --> 03:36:09,840
excess any excess fundraising or

4100
03:36:09,840 --> 03:36:12,279
donation Revenue received is transferred

4101
03:36:12,279 --> 03:36:14,239
back to the museum

4102
03:36:14,239 --> 03:36:16,720
trust there are are a couple of proposed

4103
03:36:16,720 --> 03:36:20,600
additions The Net Zero uh the net to

4104
03:36:20,600 --> 03:36:22,520
zero uh they're looking at adding

4105
03:36:22,520 --> 03:36:24,199
additional events to increased visitor

4106
03:36:24,199 --> 03:36:25,880
engagement specifically for Halloween

4107
03:36:25,880 --> 03:36:27,479
and family day of

4108
03:36:27,479 --> 03:36:29,880
$1,000 there's a new grounds maintenance

4109
03:36:29,880 --> 03:36:31,840
program to allow for natural asset

4110
03:36:31,840 --> 03:36:33,199
management of

4111
03:36:33,199 --> 03:36:36,359
4,000 and lastly new Revenue generating

4112
03:36:36,359 --> 03:36:38,439
opportunities resulting in a rise in

4113
03:36:38,439 --> 03:36:40,359
bookings and revenue for space rentals

4114
03:36:40,359 --> 03:36:42,640
of 5,000 I just want to touch based on

4115
03:36:42,640 --> 03:36:43,960
the natural Asset Management you're

4116
03:36:43,960 --> 03:36:45,040
going to see that in a number of

4117
03:36:45,040 --> 03:36:46,800
buildings it's something new that our

4118
03:36:46,800 --> 03:36:49,520
facility department has is rolling out

4119
03:36:49,520 --> 03:36:51,239
we found that we've been neglecting our

4120
03:36:51,239 --> 03:36:54,319
trees and it's just um money to go in

4121
03:36:54,319 --> 03:36:57,000
prune trees and ensure that they they're

4122
03:36:57,000 --> 03:36:58,840
all

4123
03:36:58,840 --> 03:37:02,040
good um moving on to the capital asset

4124
03:37:02,040 --> 03:37:04,160
fund looking at the bottom line You'll

4125
03:37:04,160 --> 03:37:05,840
see how the capital asset fund decreases

4126
03:37:05,840 --> 03:37:08,399
over the next few years this is due to

4127
03:37:08,399 --> 03:37:09,600
the value of the

4128
03:37:09,600 --> 03:37:15,750
work over the next little bit next slide

4129
03:37:15,760 --> 03:37:18,279
uh the prior your carry forward

4130
03:37:18,279 --> 03:37:21,880
$228,000 includes um some electrical

4131
03:37:21,880 --> 03:37:22,840
work

4132
03:37:22,840 --> 03:37:24,520
of

4133
03:37:24,520 --> 03:37:27,720
$150,000 Museum window Windows of 20

4134
03:37:27,720 --> 03:37:30,680
exterior doors of 242 and museum water

4135
03:37:30,680 --> 03:37:34,479
tank heater of $4,000 which I think it's

4136
03:37:34,479 --> 03:37:36,120
been carried for it a couple years we

4137
03:37:36,120 --> 03:37:37,680
won't replace it until it really needs

4138
03:37:37,680 --> 03:37:40,040
it and then the balance is just savings

4139
03:37:40,040 --> 03:37:42,080
on other

4140
03:37:42,080 --> 03:37:44,680
projects uh tax L requirements remain

4141
03:37:44,680 --> 03:37:46,960
unchanged between 24 and

4142
03:37:46,960 --> 03:37:50,479
25 um moving to Capital

4143
03:37:50,479 --> 03:37:53,080
Work Land improvements we have parking

4144
03:37:53,080 --> 03:37:55,880
lot um is due for replacement of

4145
03:37:55,880 --> 03:37:58,439
$150,000 buildings we have updates to

4146
03:37:58,439 --> 03:38:00,359
the fire alarm panel Transformer and

4147
03:38:00,359 --> 03:38:01,680
switch gears of

4148
03:38:01,680 --> 03:38:04,199
31,000 window replacements a 20 and a

4149
03:38:04,199 --> 03:38:05,439
carryover from

4150
03:38:05,439 --> 03:38:08,680
2024 um to make the front doors more

4151
03:38:08,680 --> 03:38:11,550
accessible of

4152
03:38:11,560 --> 03:38:14,080
26,000 to summarize the museum status

4153
03:38:14,080 --> 03:38:17,199
quo operating is 5. 59% when you add in

4154
03:38:17,199 --> 03:38:20,760
capital it's 5.25 and then with um

4155
03:38:20,760 --> 03:38:23,080
additions it's still 5.25 any questions

4156
03:38:23,080 --> 03:38:27,469
for

4157
03:38:27,479 --> 03:38:30,880
Museum moving on to land use planning

4158
03:38:30,880 --> 03:38:34,720
user fees are planning fees and

4159
03:38:34,720 --> 03:38:36,520
government transfer is actually funding

4160
03:38:36,520 --> 03:38:38,359
from the lower tiers for the services we

4161
03:38:38,359 --> 03:38:39,840
provide

4162
03:38:39,840 --> 03:38:43,920
them on the expense side it's up 36,000

4163
03:38:43,920 --> 03:38:46,199
or 6.77%

4164
03:38:46,199 --> 03:38:48,279
they are there are three full-time

4165
03:38:48,279 --> 03:38:50,120
positions within this

4166
03:38:50,120 --> 03:38:52,960
division other highlights uh we have

4167
03:38:52,960 --> 03:38:55,279
legal fees of $10,000 to address any

4168
03:38:55,279 --> 03:38:57,080
matters related to the Ontario land

4169
03:38:57,080 --> 03:38:58,880
tribunal due to provincial planning

4170
03:38:58,880 --> 03:39:01,600
statement Conformity and disputes

4171
03:39:01,600 --> 03:39:03,800
Consulting includes 15,000 for asset

4172
03:39:03,800 --> 03:39:05,479
mapping infrastructure and servicing

4173
03:39:05,479 --> 03:39:08,680
needs 10,000 for boundary expansion and

4174
03:39:08,680 --> 03:39:11,439
agricultural assessments 10,000 related

4175
03:39:11,439 --> 03:39:13,680
to official plan Amendment approvals for

4176
03:39:13,680 --> 03:39:15,960
intensification of conformity and

4177
03:39:15,960 --> 03:39:20,710
$20,000 for settlement boundary

4178
03:39:20,720 --> 03:39:24,560
assessments uh we are we've included a

4179
03:39:24,560 --> 03:39:26,279
small amount from the rate stabilization

4180
03:39:26,279 --> 03:39:29,880
just to mitigate um ongoing

4181
03:39:29,880 --> 03:39:32,399
increases to summarize planning the net

4182
03:39:32,399 --> 03:39:38,550
increas is 5.3% any questions on

4183
03:39:38,560 --> 03:39:43,389
planning moving along to Economic

4184
03:39:43,399 --> 03:39:46,680
Development other Revenue includes uh

4185
03:39:46,680 --> 03:39:48,840
$10,000 of

4186
03:39:48,840 --> 03:39:52,040
anti $10,000 for selling ad spaces and

4187
03:39:52,040 --> 03:39:56,920
paid content in the 2025 explore Duff

4188
03:39:56,920 --> 03:39:59,239
guide the expenses are actually down

4189
03:39:59,239 --> 03:40:02,120
47,000 because TW last year included the

4190
03:40:02,120 --> 03:40:04,080
um strap the economic development

4191
03:40:04,080 --> 03:40:06,880
strategic plan there are two full-time

4192
03:40:06,880 --> 03:40:08,399
positions within this

4193
03:40:08,399 --> 03:40:10,920
division other highlights in admitted

4194
03:40:10,920 --> 03:40:13,560
office um hosting indust industry

4195
03:40:13,560 --> 03:40:15,920
Roundtable meetings we have 5,000 set

4196
03:40:15,920 --> 03:40:18,160
aside Consulting fees for sector plans

4197
03:40:18,160 --> 03:40:20,600
and strategies of 20,000 and explore

4198
03:40:20,600 --> 03:40:23,600
duffing guide of 60 Grand Service

4199
03:40:23,600 --> 03:40:25,880
delivery includes $40,000 for the small

4200
03:40:25,880 --> 03:40:28,199
business Enterprise Center two community

4201
03:40:28,199 --> 03:40:31,080
events of $20,000 tourism development of

4202
03:40:31,080 --> 03:40:33,439
20 and sector development projects for

4203
03:40:33,439 --> 03:40:35,279
another

4204
03:40:35,279 --> 03:40:38,120
20 it and communication includes website

4205
03:40:38,120 --> 03:40:40,239
hosting and maintenance of 15,000 as

4206
03:40:40,239 --> 03:40:41,840
well as software Annual fees for

4207
03:40:41,840 --> 03:40:43,199
customer relationship management

4208
03:40:43,199 --> 03:40:46,670
software of $10,000

4209
03:40:46,680 --> 03:40:49,800
proposed additions in 2025 net to

4210
03:40:49,800 --> 03:40:52,080
$25,000 the development of a community

4211
03:40:52,080 --> 03:40:54,800
Improvement plan to support investment

4212
03:40:54,800 --> 03:40:55,960
the planning act does allow

4213
03:40:55,960 --> 03:40:57,880
municipalities to designate Community

4214
03:40:57,880 --> 03:40:59,840
Improvement project areas to offer

4215
03:40:59,840 --> 03:41:02,120
financial and non-financial incentives

4216
03:41:02,120 --> 03:41:04,279
to create employment opportunities and

4217
03:41:04,279 --> 03:41:07,439
amenities we are proposing $80,000 for

4218
03:41:07,439 --> 03:41:09,199
this project come from the rate

4219
03:41:09,199 --> 03:41:11,960
stabilization reserve and then the

4220
03:41:11,960 --> 03:41:13,399
development implementation of the

4221
03:41:13,399 --> 03:41:15,279
investment attraction program in cons

4222
03:41:15,279 --> 03:41:17,359
consultation with local municipalities

4223
03:41:17,359 --> 03:41:19,840
to promote different to investors and

4224
03:41:19,840 --> 03:41:21,800
site selectors domestic and

4225
03:41:21,800 --> 03:41:23,199
international by highlighting the

4226
03:41:23,199 --> 03:41:25,399
competitive advantage of locating and

4227
03:41:25,399 --> 03:41:27,840
starting a business here we have $25,000

4228
03:41:27,840 --> 03:41:33,550
in the budget any questions on

4229
03:41:33,560 --> 03:41:35,520
those

4230
03:41:35,520 --> 03:41:39,279
just councilor Garrett just could you go

4231
03:41:39,279 --> 03:41:42,560
back one just thinking of the the

4232
03:41:42,560 --> 03:41:46,720
investment attraction program

4233
03:41:46,720 --> 03:41:50,359
is that is that enough like it's it I

4234
03:41:50,359 --> 03:41:52,920
see how you could get through that uh

4235
03:41:52,920 --> 03:41:54,600
amount of money very

4236
03:41:54,600 --> 03:41:58,120
quickly um and I think it's a it's it's

4237
03:41:58,120 --> 03:41:59,600
an important piece for economic

4238
03:41:59,600 --> 03:42:02,319
development so just curious Raj can you

4239
03:42:02,319 --> 03:42:03,760
explain this was supposed to have

4240
03:42:03,760 --> 03:42:06,840
happened this fall and it it

4241
03:42:06,840 --> 03:42:09,319
wasn't or is it the same

4242
03:42:09,319 --> 03:42:13,479
thing through you uh uh Warden um

4243
03:42:13,479 --> 03:42:15,399
councelor Garretts you do raise a a good

4244
03:42:15,399 --> 03:42:18,479
Point um but maybe I'll just clarify

4245
03:42:18,479 --> 03:42:20,600
what what the warden is referring to

4246
03:42:20,600 --> 03:42:26,080
that was um our investment uh attraction

4247
03:42:26,080 --> 03:42:28,840
day um and that has been pushed to

4248
03:42:28,840 --> 03:42:30,800
Spring of 2025 so that's completely

4249
03:42:30,800 --> 03:42:33,000
different it's a separate line item but

4250
03:42:33,000 --> 03:42:34,880
what the investment attraction program

4251
03:42:34,880 --> 03:42:37,520
really speaks to um and if I can just

4252
03:42:37,520 --> 03:42:39,720
add a little bit of detail here um we

4253
03:42:39,720 --> 03:42:42,040
were one of 10 municipalities that were

4254
03:42:42,040 --> 03:42:45,600
selected to go um and Pitch to tourism

4255
03:42:45,600 --> 03:42:48,000
development site selectors uh this year

4256
03:42:48,000 --> 03:42:50,960
so it was it was an amazing experience

4257
03:42:50,960 --> 03:42:52,439
um and we were one of two rural

4258
03:42:52,439 --> 03:42:54,880
municipalities that went and presented a

4259
03:42:54,880 --> 03:42:57,720
different County um to to different

4260
03:42:57,720 --> 03:42:59,199
tourism developers one of them being

4261
03:42:59,199 --> 03:43:01,880
hawkley Valley um they were there along

4262
03:43:01,880 --> 03:43:05,319
with the Marriott and uh Hilton so in

4263
03:43:05,319 --> 03:43:07,239
order for us to continue to do that type

4264
03:43:07,239 --> 03:43:09,720
of work um you're absolutely right

4265
03:43:09,720 --> 03:43:12,840
councelor Garretts 25,000 is is a a drop

4266
03:43:12,840 --> 03:43:16,120
in the bucket but um given the fact that

4267
03:43:16,120 --> 03:43:18,880
our overall budget came in at 5% I was

4268
03:43:18,880 --> 03:43:21,159
trying to be conservative when coming up

4269
03:43:21,159 --> 03:43:23,399
with that number um but we have

4270
03:43:23,399 --> 03:43:25,520
developed um an Investors Guide which

4271
03:43:25,520 --> 03:43:27,159
has done fairly well we've actually won

4272
03:43:27,159 --> 03:43:29,399
two Awards um for the Investors Guide so

4273
03:43:29,399 --> 03:43:32,359
we're well on our way but I mean if if

4274
03:43:32,359 --> 03:43:35,000
it Council so wishes to give me more

4275
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:37,840
money I don't say no to that um but

4276
03:43:37,840 --> 03:43:46,469
25,000 does get us started at least

4277
03:43:46,479 --> 03:43:49,760
um if you notice in the 2020 go back

4278
03:43:49,760 --> 03:43:52,600
slide 2627 we are slowly increasing that

4279
03:43:52,600 --> 03:43:56,159
amount under a new 2025 expense for the

4280
03:43:56,159 --> 03:43:58,319
investment attration

4281
03:43:58,319 --> 03:44:00,399
program to summarize Economic

4282
03:44:00,399 --> 03:44:02,399
Development the stus quote operating is

4283
03:44:02,399 --> 03:44:04,640
3.49% and with the proposed additions

4284
03:44:04,640 --> 03:44:06,399
it's

4285
03:44:06,399 --> 03:44:09,080
8.33 and then again the last two slides

4286
03:44:09,080 --> 03:44:12,359
are just summarizing the status quo and

4287
03:44:12,359 --> 03:44:18,910
the proposed increases

4288
03:44:18,920 --> 03:44:21,000
any further

4289
03:44:21,000 --> 03:44:51,950
questions you got off lightly garage

4290
03:44:51,960 --> 03:44:55,040
maybe Council Garrett yeah maybe while

4291
03:44:55,040 --> 03:44:56,640
we're waiting we we could have a

4292
03:44:56,640 --> 03:44:58,319
discussion at the council level if we

4293
03:44:58,319 --> 03:45:01,920
want to increase that uh at this point

4294
03:45:01,920 --> 03:45:03,640
the the 25,000 for the the

4295
03:45:03,640 --> 03:45:05,880
implementation plan I I think personally

4296
03:45:05,880 --> 03:45:08,720
I think uh I would like to see an amount

4297
03:45:08,720 --> 03:45:13,600
that uh the department can do a good job

4298
03:45:13,600 --> 03:45:16,560
I appreciate uh trying to save money but

4299
03:45:16,560 --> 03:45:17,960
I I think

4300
03:45:17,960 --> 03:45:21,239
it's uh it's important I think it's

4301
03:45:21,239 --> 03:45:23,600
important so I'd like to know I guess if

4302
03:45:23,600 --> 03:45:27,319
that's if the real number is is 50 and

4303
03:45:27,319 --> 03:45:28,840
and where we go from here so I don't

4304
03:45:28,840 --> 03:45:30,800
know if you've got a

4305
03:45:30,800 --> 03:45:34,469
number in

4306
03:45:34,479 --> 03:45:36,840
Mind through you Warden do you want me

4307
03:45:36,840 --> 03:45:38,560
to go back to where Brenda okay

4308
03:45:38,560 --> 03:45:42,439
excellent um the the real number that

4309
03:45:42,439 --> 03:45:45,920
ultimately we came up with

4310
03:45:45,920 --> 03:45:47,880
um when we were developing the

4311
03:45:47,880 --> 03:45:50,319
investment attraction strategy itself

4312
03:45:50,319 --> 03:45:53,239
was closer to 880,000

4313
03:45:53,239 --> 03:45:55,399
um but like I said I was trying to be

4314
03:45:55,399 --> 03:45:57,239
conservative given the fact that our our

4315
03:45:57,239 --> 03:46:02,910
overall budget uh did come in at 5%

4316
03:46:02,920 --> 03:46:06,199
so yeah I think it personally I I'd like

4317
03:46:06,199 --> 03:46:08,159
to see it go up I don't know to what

4318
03:46:08,159 --> 03:46:10,279
level I think I still need to to think

4319
03:46:10,279 --> 03:46:11,960
about that if anyone else has a

4320
03:46:11,960 --> 03:46:15,159
suggestion um happy to hear it but I I

4321
03:46:15,159 --> 03:46:17,680
do think it's it's an

4322
03:46:17,680 --> 03:46:19,920
important tool for all the

4323
03:46:19,920 --> 03:46:24,279
municipalities and and duffen uh to have

4324
03:46:24,279 --> 03:46:28,120
so councelor Taylor did you have a

4325
03:46:28,120 --> 03:46:29,960
comment the only thing I was going to

4326
03:46:29,960 --> 03:46:31,560
say is it's similar to what you were

4327
03:46:31,560 --> 03:46:33,680
saying Chris which is why I prom

4328
03:46:33,680 --> 03:46:35,840
prompted you is uh sometimes when you

4329
03:46:35,840 --> 03:46:40,000
spend money um a little bit is a waste

4330
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:42,000
it's a joke it doesn't go far it doesn't

4331
03:46:42,000 --> 03:46:44,520
do what it's intended um but I I'm not

4332
03:46:44,520 --> 03:46:46,600
from Amar enough with what we're trying

4333
03:46:46,600 --> 03:46:48,920
to accomplish and even to say the 80

4334
03:46:48,920 --> 03:46:50,840
grand I don't know what that is so it's

4335
03:46:50,840 --> 03:46:53,359
hard to make an interpretation at this

4336
03:46:53,359 --> 03:46:55,920
point but uh I don't know where we go

4337
03:46:55,920 --> 03:46:57,439
with it because I don't I don't feel

4338
03:46:57,439 --> 03:46:59,159
like I don't have the information but it

4339
03:46:59,159 --> 03:47:01,439
feels like it's just not enough to

4340
03:47:01,439 --> 03:47:04,000
sustain a a good

4341
03:47:04,000 --> 03:47:06,319
program councelor guardhouse through

4342
03:47:06,319 --> 03:47:09,120
Warden um I would make this suggesting

4343
03:47:09,120 --> 03:47:10,600
that we put that on the list of

4344
03:47:10,600 --> 03:47:13,080
considerations right now right now that

4345
03:47:13,080 --> 03:47:14,920
we' come back to it and whether we want

4346
03:47:14,920 --> 03:47:17,000
want to increase it or keeps Tas quo but

4347
03:47:17,000 --> 03:47:19,159
we'll we'll think about it and when it

4348
03:47:19,159 --> 03:47:21,000
comes back we'll have the opportunity to

4349
03:47:21,000 --> 03:47:23,760
to consider it because it is points are

4350
03:47:23,760 --> 03:47:28,990
taken that have been

4351
03:47:29,000 --> 03:47:32,720
made okay last last piece Brenda now

4352
03:47:32,720 --> 03:47:36,269
you're in the hot

4353
03:47:36,279 --> 03:47:41,910
seat okay Health and Human

4354
03:47:41,920 --> 03:47:44,560
Services consists of community services

4355
03:47:44,560 --> 03:47:47,399
stuff Oaks paramedics and public health

4356
03:47:47,399 --> 03:47:49,840
so we're going to start with Community

4357
03:47:49,840 --> 03:47:51,920
Services there are currently three

4358
03:47:51,920 --> 03:47:54,080
divisions within Community Services with

4359
03:47:54,080 --> 03:47:57,159
the status quo decrease of0

4360
03:47:57,159 --> 03:48:00,319
41% moving to the increased includ the

4361
03:48:00,319 --> 03:48:03,880
proposed addition slide we add a new

4362
03:48:03,880 --> 03:48:05,640
division that we're calling housing

4363
03:48:05,640 --> 03:48:11,880
strategy which leaves us at 12.3% 12.36%

4364
03:48:11,880 --> 03:48:15,000
increase Community Services capital

4365
03:48:15,000 --> 03:48:16,439
similar to all the other ones the

4366
03:48:16,439 --> 03:48:18,560
capital asset fund does go up and down

4367
03:48:18,560 --> 03:48:22,279
as the value of work um goes up and

4368
03:48:22,279 --> 03:48:27,560
down Capital includes both housing and u

4369
03:48:27,560 --> 03:48:30,080
m Mel Burnside

4370
03:48:30,080 --> 03:48:35,030
Village early years in child

4371
03:48:35,040 --> 03:48:37,399
care on the revenue side we've actually

4372
03:48:37,399 --> 03:48:40,279
seen a small a reduction in our regular

4373
03:48:40,279 --> 03:48:43,800
Child Care funding of 2.8 million as our

4374
03:48:43,800 --> 03:48:46,319
as the funding shifts to sewel which

4375
03:48:46,319 --> 03:48:49,279
increased by more than $1 million for a

4376
03:48:49,279 --> 03:48:51,439
net increase of just over $8

4377
03:48:51,439 --> 03:48:55,199
million the other Revenue includes um as

4378
03:48:55,199 --> 03:48:56,840
we get additional subsidies it also

4379
03:48:56,840 --> 03:49:01,760
means we are able to have ADM Revenue to

4380
03:49:01,760 --> 03:49:03,520
offset our admin cost so this is just

4381
03:49:03,520 --> 03:49:05,279
allocating the revenue from the

4382
03:49:05,279 --> 03:49:08,960
programming lines to the

4383
03:49:08,960 --> 03:49:11,680
admin on the expense side there's eight

4384
03:49:11,680 --> 03:49:15,279
full-time and seven part-time um staff

4385
03:49:15,279 --> 03:49:16,880
the total increase there sorry in

4386
03:49:16,880 --> 03:49:18,120
expenses is

4387
03:49:18,120 --> 03:49:20,479
8.43

4388
03:49:20,479 --> 03:49:22,359
million or

4389
03:49:22,359 --> 03:49:25,439
50% um back to the staff early in 2024

4390
03:49:25,439 --> 03:49:27,319
we did add a third Community Services

4391
03:49:27,319 --> 03:49:28,920
worker to support the increased

4392
03:49:28,920 --> 03:49:30,840
requirements of seawalk which is

4393
03:49:30,840 --> 03:49:32,720
contributing to the large increase in

4394
03:49:32,720 --> 03:49:35,000
salaries and

4395
03:49:35,000 --> 03:49:37,159
benefits highlights within Service

4396
03:49:37,159 --> 03:49:40,199
delivery um with the increase in funding

4397
03:49:40,199 --> 03:49:41,920
becomes the increase in Service delivery

4398
03:49:41,920 --> 03:49:43,680
of the net uh increase of over $8

4399
03:49:43,680 --> 03:49:45,319
million

4400
03:49:45,319 --> 03:49:47,319
and then the internal Services used as a

4401
03:49:47,319 --> 03:49:48,840
allocation of support cost from other

4402
03:49:48,840 --> 03:49:51,800
departments including

4403
03:49:51,800 --> 03:49:55,000
Finance proposed additions um the net

4404
03:49:55,000 --> 03:49:57,359
for 2025 is

4405
03:49:57,359 --> 03:49:59,680
$107,000 uh this is previously committed

4406
03:49:59,680 --> 03:50:02,319
is the data and funding analyst position

4407
03:50:02,319 --> 03:50:03,720
that was approved at the September

4408
03:50:03,720 --> 03:50:05,920
council meeting uh they're responsible

4409
03:50:05,920 --> 03:50:07,800
for providing support to Defence

4410
03:50:07,800 --> 03:50:09,359
licensed childcare

4411
03:50:09,359 --> 03:50:11,479
sector and Council approved this

4412
03:50:11,479 --> 03:50:13,040
temporary position as a 12-month

4413
03:50:13,040 --> 03:50:14,760
contract and it is anticipated that

4414
03:50:14,760 --> 03:50:16,560
based on funding a request to create a

4415
03:50:16,560 --> 03:50:18,880
permanent position will be proposed in

4416
03:50:18,880 --> 03:50:20,800
2026 budget which is the proposed

4417
03:50:20,800 --> 03:50:23,960
Staffing line included in the

4418
03:50:23,960 --> 03:50:27,910
chart any questions on

4419
03:50:27,920 --> 03:50:30,479
that to summarize early years in child

4420
03:50:30,479 --> 03:50:32,080
care due to additional funding the

4421
03:50:32,080 --> 03:50:35,279
status quo is a net decrease of 8.69 and

4422
03:50:35,279 --> 03:50:37,080
with the proposed additions it becomes

4423
03:50:37,080 --> 03:50:39,870
an increase of

4424
03:50:39,880 --> 03:50:43,000
1.55% moving on to

4425
03:50:43,000 --> 03:50:45,680
housing the revenue side rent is

4426
03:50:45,680 --> 03:50:47,199
certainly a large portion of their

4427
03:50:47,199 --> 03:50:49,560
revenues as it's government transfers

4428
03:50:49,560 --> 03:50:52,279
we're seeing a decrease in subsidies as

4429
03:50:52,279 --> 03:50:54,640
agreements with our um housing providers

4430
03:50:54,640 --> 03:50:57,279
are expiring the other decrease relates

4431
03:50:57,279 --> 03:50:59,560
to the reaching home program where we

4432
03:50:59,560 --> 03:51:01,120
budgeted based on what we knew at the

4433
03:51:01,120 --> 03:51:02,640
time and since that we pulled these

4434
03:51:02,640 --> 03:51:04,080
numbers together we did learn that we

4435
03:51:04,080 --> 03:51:05,760
will be getting

4436
03:51:05,760 --> 03:51:08,720
more other re Revenue similar to early

4437
03:51:08,720 --> 03:51:10,760
years in childcare is primarily the

4438
03:51:10,760 --> 03:51:12,359
allocation of administrative funding

4439
03:51:12,359 --> 03:51:15,399
from the various programs

4440
03:51:15,399 --> 03:51:16,880
councelor

4441
03:51:16,880 --> 03:51:18,960
Nicks maybe I'm on the next page

4442
03:51:18,960 --> 03:51:21,159
expenses I do you I'll wait till you

4443
03:51:21,159 --> 03:51:22,279
finish revenue and then I have a

4444
03:51:22,279 --> 03:51:26,600
question on expenses I'm done oh okay I

4445
03:51:26,600 --> 03:51:28,319
in looking at the total expenses what

4446
03:51:28,319 --> 03:51:31,080
the thought that went through my mind we

4447
03:51:31,080 --> 03:51:33,040
discussed at Council the possibility of

4448
03:51:33,040 --> 03:51:34,840
doing something with the parking lot on

4449
03:51:34,840 --> 03:51:37,680
Elizabeth Street and I I can't remember

4450
03:51:37,680 --> 03:51:39,239
how far we got with that discussion I

4451
03:51:39,239 --> 03:51:41,439
think there was some sense of urgency to

4452
03:51:41,439 --> 03:51:43,520
get it done before this term of council

4453
03:51:43,520 --> 03:51:45,960
was over is there any anything in this

4454
03:51:45,960 --> 03:51:48,479
expense budget that is is

4455
03:51:48,479 --> 03:51:51,080
anticipating doing something with the

4456
03:51:51,080 --> 03:51:53,840
parking lot in Elizabeth

4457
03:51:53,840 --> 03:51:56,439
Street Brenda do you want to answer this

4458
03:51:56,439 --> 03:51:58,399
actually I can I can answer this so

4459
03:51:58,399 --> 03:51:59,920
there's actually a new division called

4460
03:51:59,920 --> 03:52:03,000
housing strategy which focuses on just

4461
03:52:03,000 --> 03:52:05,040
that we'll get

4462
03:52:05,040 --> 03:52:08,640
to So within um the housing expenses the

4463
03:52:08,640 --> 03:52:11,359
net expenses are down

4464
03:52:11,359 --> 03:52:14,120
$114,000 uh the housing division has 10

4465
03:52:14,120 --> 03:52:16,239
full time positions and one full-time

4466
03:52:16,239 --> 03:52:18,720
contract position it also includes two

4467
03:52:18,720 --> 03:52:21,520
housing stability positions um that

4468
03:52:21,520 --> 03:52:24,040
report to Ontario Works leadership the

4469
03:52:24,040 --> 03:52:26,120
net decrease in salaries and benefits

4470
03:52:26,120 --> 03:52:28,159
are a result of Shifting internal

4471
03:52:28,159 --> 03:52:30,880
positions to external agencies and are

4472
03:52:30,880 --> 03:52:34,120
offset by the increase in Service

4473
03:52:34,120 --> 03:52:36,800
delivery highlights there's uh savings

4474
03:52:36,800 --> 03:52:38,520
within admin office of

4475
03:52:38,520 --> 03:52:40,880
$218,000 as debentures on the original

4476
03:52:40,880 --> 03:52:44,880
housing buildings um have been paid off

4477
03:52:44,880 --> 03:52:47,120
Service delivery includes increases to

4478
03:52:47,120 --> 03:52:49,680
the rent supplement program of $80,000

4479
03:52:49,680 --> 03:52:51,920
and um shift of the reaching home funds

4480
03:52:51,920 --> 03:52:54,960
from salary to Service delivery of

4481
03:52:54,960 --> 03:52:58,279
258 and then the internal services use

4482
03:52:58,279 --> 03:53:00,359
is an adjustment to reflect the actual

4483
03:53:00,359 --> 03:53:03,159
time um and costs of facility staff

4484
03:53:03,159 --> 03:53:04,600
supporting the

4485
03:53:04,600 --> 03:53:06,680
division on to

4486
03:53:06,680 --> 03:53:08,880
transfers uh we continue to apply

4487
03:53:08,880 --> 03:53:10,840
reserves to offset the inability to

4488
03:53:10,840 --> 03:53:12,840
collect and apply development charges to

4489
03:53:12,840 --> 03:53:16,080
housing we have establish that a plan a

4490
03:53:16,080 --> 03:53:18,279
couple years ago over a couple we have a

4491
03:53:18,279 --> 03:53:21,710
few more years to

4492
03:53:21,720 --> 03:53:24,720
go councelor Garrett just back to

4493
03:53:24,720 --> 03:53:27,120
expenses I did ask a question in advance

4494
03:53:27,120 --> 03:53:28,520
Brenda answered and it was whether or

4495
03:53:28,520 --> 03:53:30,800
not the rent rent supplement is maxed

4496
03:53:30,800 --> 03:53:33,040
every year the answer was yes but I

4497
03:53:33,040 --> 03:53:35,399
probably should have asked uh I think

4498
03:53:35,399 --> 03:53:37,040
you just mentioned how much we increase

4499
03:53:37,040 --> 03:53:39,120
it on an annual basis and actually like

4500
03:53:39,120 --> 03:53:42,560
what is how much are we uh spending on

4501
03:53:42,560 --> 03:53:45,199
that

4502
03:53:45,199 --> 03:53:46,840
sorry to put you on the spot I tried my

4503
03:53:46,840 --> 03:53:48,800
best to to ask all my questions in

4504
03:53:48,800 --> 03:53:53,110
advance but I I I forgot

4505
03:53:53,120 --> 03:53:56,760
one so that would really depend on what

4506
03:53:56,760 --> 03:54:00,120
we do receive um through subsidy for

4507
03:54:00,120 --> 03:54:02,120
that but each year we do re when we do

4508
03:54:02,120 --> 03:54:05,159
receive those we do Max it out okay

4509
03:54:05,159 --> 03:54:06,880
because I was just thinking you know I

4510
03:54:06,880 --> 03:54:08,399
think when we were talking about the

4511
03:54:08,399 --> 03:54:10,720
parking lot at the council level there

4512
03:54:10,720 --> 03:54:13,000
was some hesitancy to do anything before

4513
03:54:13,000 --> 03:54:15,120
we had the

4514
03:54:15,120 --> 03:54:19,720
the task force in place perhaps and so I

4515
03:54:19,720 --> 03:54:21,279
was just wondering if this is something

4516
03:54:21,279 --> 03:54:24,520
we can uh increase to make an impact

4517
03:54:24,520 --> 03:54:26,840
right away you I used to have a building

4518
03:54:26,840 --> 03:54:28,960
and I had tenants who used this program

4519
03:54:28,960 --> 03:54:32,239
great program um so that's all I was I

4520
03:54:32,239 --> 03:54:34,680
was thinking I think Amy's got an answer

4521
03:54:34,680 --> 03:54:37,479
for this yeah sorry housing is ingrained

4522
03:54:37,479 --> 03:54:38,720
in me because that's where I started

4523
03:54:38,720 --> 03:54:41,439
when I joined the county um so the rent

4524
03:54:41,439 --> 03:54:43,000
supplement

4525
03:54:43,000 --> 03:54:45,600
program there's two portions to it one

4526
03:54:45,600 --> 03:54:49,279
is funded and one is not really funded

4527
03:54:49,279 --> 03:54:51,159
we do get a little bit of subsidy still

4528
03:54:51,159 --> 03:54:52,760
but as the agreements run out we're no

4529
03:54:52,760 --> 03:54:55,319
longer getting Federal funding which is

4530
03:54:55,319 --> 03:54:58,120
I think there's a decrease there of 68

4531
03:54:58,120 --> 03:54:59,840
uh we have proposed in the or we have

4532
03:54:59,840 --> 03:55:01,120
included in the budget

4533
03:55:01,120 --> 03:55:03,399
$824,000 for total rents up which

4534
03:55:03,399 --> 03:55:07,720
includes I think maybe2 200 which is

4535
03:55:07,720 --> 03:55:11,309
funded through reaching

4536
03:55:11,319 --> 03:55:14,600
home okay thanks I think that's another

4537
03:55:14,600 --> 03:55:17,560
one I would like to discuss further

4538
03:55:17,560 --> 03:55:20,920
maybe at the next meeting because like I

4539
03:55:20,920 --> 03:55:22,319
said I think that's something where we

4540
03:55:22,319 --> 03:55:24,479
can make an impact right away rather

4541
03:55:24,479 --> 03:55:25,880
than waiting to build

4542
03:55:25,880 --> 03:55:29,880
buildings um so the rent sub program if

4543
03:55:29,880 --> 03:55:32,159
I may um we do have agreements with a

4544
03:55:32,159 --> 03:55:35,159
number of different buildings and I know

4545
03:55:35,159 --> 03:55:36,640
that we've had a little bit of

4546
03:55:36,640 --> 03:55:38,439
difficulty the last few years getting

4547
03:55:38,439 --> 03:55:44,000
more um landlords to um to to agree to

4548
03:55:44,000 --> 03:55:44,760
it

4549
03:55:44,760 --> 03:55:46,640
which is why I know that the housing

4550
03:55:46,640 --> 03:55:50,720
staff have shifted to um the housing

4551
03:55:50,720 --> 03:55:54,080
allowance okay which we then kind of

4552
03:55:54,080 --> 03:55:55,800
give the money to them I think and just

4553
03:55:55,800 --> 03:55:57,800
so then the difference would be the

4554
03:55:57,800 --> 03:56:00,560
supplement goes to the landlord uh which

4555
03:56:00,560 --> 03:56:02,319
is the program I was involved in the

4556
03:56:02,319 --> 03:56:04,159
allowance would be an amount that goes

4557
03:56:04,159 --> 03:56:07,600
to the individual yes okay I get it

4558
03:56:07,600 --> 03:56:10,199
thanks anybody

4559
03:56:10,199 --> 03:56:12,439
else

4560
03:56:12,439 --> 03:56:14,800
okay um

4561
03:56:14,800 --> 03:56:16,230
proposed

4562
03:56:16,230 --> 03:56:18,120
[Music]

4563
03:56:18,120 --> 03:56:20,960
additions um all we have here is the new

4564
03:56:20,960 --> 03:56:23,319
grounds maintenance program to uh

4565
03:56:23,319 --> 03:56:31,309
support the

4566
03:56:31,319 --> 03:56:33,479
trees uh moving on to Capital the

4567
03:56:33,479 --> 03:56:35,439
capital asset fund is expected to go

4568
03:56:35,439 --> 03:56:37,600
down over the next few years before it

4569
03:56:37,600 --> 03:56:41,040
um goes up but the capital Levy will

4570
03:56:41,040 --> 03:56:42,880
remain relatively

4571
03:56:42,880 --> 03:56:44,920
constant in ter terms of the carry

4572
03:56:44,920 --> 03:56:46,880
forward the majority relates to Windows

4573
03:56:46,880 --> 03:56:51,239
and Doors of $890,000 that we

4574
03:56:51,239 --> 03:56:54,600
um are carrying forward and an HVAC

4575
03:56:54,600 --> 03:56:56,359
project of 250 that we've actually

4576
03:56:56,359 --> 03:56:59,149
shifted to

4577
03:56:59,159 --> 03:57:03,000
2026 um in relation to contributions we

4578
03:57:03,000 --> 03:57:05,000
do have a little bit of money coming

4579
03:57:05,000 --> 03:57:05,760
from

4580
03:57:05,760 --> 03:57:08,640
cmhc that we we receiv received a pot of

4581
03:57:08,640 --> 03:57:12,790
money that we can apply over a 3-year

4582
03:57:12,800 --> 03:57:15,439
period there is approximately $2.2

4583
03:57:15,439 --> 03:57:21,469
million of planned work for

4584
03:57:21,479 --> 03:57:24,560
2025 it includes updates to exterior

4585
03:57:24,560 --> 03:57:26,399
walkways of

4586
03:57:26,399 --> 03:57:29,359
$195,000 um which includes the trail

4587
03:57:29,359 --> 03:57:32,560
behind 43 beia towards John Street as

4588
03:57:32,560 --> 03:57:35,080
well as parking lot updates of $30,000

4589
03:57:35,080 --> 03:57:36,000
which

4590
03:57:36,000 --> 03:57:38,439
is I believe it's just Consulting for

4591
03:57:38,439 --> 03:57:41,199
future work and then equipment and

4592
03:57:41,199 --> 03:57:43,640
Machinery we have appliances that are

4593
03:57:43,640 --> 03:57:46,840
replace on an ASN basis we have $62,000

4594
03:57:46,840 --> 03:57:48,319
in the

4595
03:57:48,319 --> 03:57:51,640
budget the buildings we have a Contin uh

4596
03:57:51,640 --> 03:57:53,399
continuation of the security upgrade

4597
03:57:53,399 --> 03:57:56,199
project of 105 Electric electrical

4598
03:57:56,199 --> 03:57:58,040
upgrades including indoor and outdoor

4599
03:57:58,040 --> 03:58:01,120
lighting as well as fire alarm panels of

4600
03:58:01,120 --> 03:58:03,560
77,000 H back includes regular

4601
03:58:03,560 --> 03:58:05,520
replacement of boilers and planning for

4602
03:58:05,520 --> 03:58:07,880
2026 Replacements of

4603
03:58:07,880 --> 03:58:10,080
92,000 kitchen bathroom and unit

4604
03:58:10,080 --> 03:58:12,159
flooring are updated as required and we

4605
03:58:12,159 --> 03:58:15,720
have $352,000 in the budget for for that

4606
03:58:15,720 --> 03:58:17,560
flooring also includes common room and

4607
03:58:17,560 --> 03:58:20,080
hallway updates of 188 we have window

4608
03:58:20,080 --> 03:58:23,319
replacements of $760,000 and then

4609
03:58:23,319 --> 03:58:25,800
entrance vestibule balcony and other

4610
03:58:25,800 --> 03:58:30,070
exterior door Replacements of

4611
03:58:30,080 --> 03:58:33,159
$150,000 summarizing housing the S quo

4612
03:58:33,159 --> 03:58:36,520
operating is 1.65 with capital it's

4613
03:58:36,520 --> 03:58:39,120
1.35% and with a proposed additions it's

4614
03:58:39,120 --> 03:58:46,189
2.17 any further questions on housing

4615
03:58:46,199 --> 03:58:48,479
Ontario

4616
03:58:48,479 --> 03:58:51,040
Works there is a small increase in the

4617
03:58:51,040 --> 03:58:53,680
administration funding of $45,600

4618
03:58:53,680 --> 03:58:55,880
the majority of the Interior work

4619
03:58:55,880 --> 03:58:57,840
subsidies are dependent on the actual

4620
03:58:57,840 --> 03:59:00,560
costs other revenues are recoveries of

4621
03:59:00,560 --> 03:59:02,760
monies previously flowed to clients and

4622
03:59:02,760 --> 03:59:04,279
for the most part are remitted right

4623
03:59:04,279 --> 03:59:06,399
back to the

4624
03:59:06,399 --> 03:59:09,199
province Ontario Works has 12 full-time

4625
03:59:09,199 --> 03:59:11,120
positions and supports the housing

4626
03:59:11,120 --> 03:59:14,479
stability team uh regular increase es

4627
03:59:14,479 --> 03:59:17,080
have been offset by attrition due to the

4628
03:59:17,080 --> 03:59:20,830
reduction in funding in

4629
03:59:20,840 --> 03:59:24,159
2024 I didn't include any highlights for

4630
03:59:24,159 --> 03:59:26,399
the other expenses within admin because

4631
03:59:26,399 --> 03:59:28,520
they're pretty um much the same I will

4632
03:59:28,520 --> 03:59:30,640
note on the service delivery there's a

4633
03:59:30,640 --> 03:59:32,600
decrease there and that directly relates

4634
03:59:32,600 --> 03:59:35,520
to the change in the funding

4635
03:59:35,520 --> 03:59:38,359
program transfers we did include a

4636
03:59:38,359 --> 03:59:41,000
transfer to offset um the decrease in

4637
03:59:41,000 --> 03:59:43,040
funding in 2024 we had originally

4638
03:59:43,040 --> 03:59:45,760
planned to do that 25 as well but with

4639
03:59:45,760 --> 03:59:47,359
the attrition we no longer need to do

4640
03:59:47,359 --> 03:59:49,560
that as well as the additional funding

4641
03:59:49,560 --> 03:59:51,880
and then we have a small allocation to

4642
03:59:51,880 --> 03:59:56,830
um it capital for future replacement of

4643
03:59:56,840 --> 04:00:00,040
equipment proposed additions we have

4644
04:00:00,040 --> 04:00:01,880
proposed increase from Headwaters

4645
04:00:01,880 --> 04:00:03,520
community in action to better support

4646
04:00:03,520 --> 04:00:05,880
the community I mentioned that um in the

4647
04:00:05,880 --> 04:00:09,359
council section as well as an additional

4648
04:00:09,359 --> 04:00:12,159
uh $20,000 to support DC moves are there

4649
04:00:12,159 --> 04:00:20,229
any questions on these

4650
04:00:20,239 --> 04:00:22,040
summarizing Ontario Works the status

4651
04:00:22,040 --> 04:00:24,359
quot operating is a decrease of

4652
04:00:24,359 --> 04:00:26,960
41% with proposed additions the total

4653
04:00:26,960 --> 04:00:31,670
increase is

4654
04:00:31,680 --> 04:00:36,149
5.07 next is housing

4655
04:00:36,159 --> 04:00:39,399
strategy this is a new division um it

4656
04:00:39,399 --> 04:00:41,399
includes funds to support the execution

4657
04:00:41,399 --> 04:00:46,189
of the housing strategy plan

4658
04:00:46,199 --> 04:00:48,840
proposed additions so salaries and

4659
04:00:48,840 --> 04:00:50,239
benefits for Project Lead for

4660
04:00:50,239 --> 04:00:52,080
implementation of the housing strategy

4661
04:00:52,080 --> 04:00:53,199
of

4662
04:00:53,199 --> 04:00:56,239
$130,000 plus 4500 for admin and it

4663
04:00:56,239 --> 04:00:58,120
related

4664
04:00:58,120 --> 04:01:01,239
costs Consulting to assist with next

4665
04:01:01,239 --> 04:01:03,880
steps of $50,000 and a transfer to

4666
04:01:03,880 --> 04:01:06,720
reserve of 500,000 has been included to

4667
04:01:06,720 --> 04:01:08,880
set aside funds for potential future

4668
04:01:08,880 --> 04:01:12,229
Capital

4669
04:01:12,239 --> 04:01:16,790
work coun White

4670
04:01:16,800 --> 04:01:19,720
thanks won uh first of all I I'm

4671
04:01:19,720 --> 04:01:21,479
learning on Monday I'm going to try to

4672
04:01:21,479 --> 04:01:24,439
not to use any bot statements so good

4673
04:01:24,439 --> 04:01:26,640
for I I absolutely support the project

4674
04:01:26,640 --> 04:01:29,439
manager piece absolutely we uh We've set

4675
04:01:29,439 --> 04:01:31,399
a course and we need to follow through

4676
04:01:31,399 --> 04:01:33,800
with it uh

4677
04:01:33,800 --> 04:01:38,560
and uh given uh Steve's comments earlier

4678
04:01:38,560 --> 04:01:41,560
I mean we are in a challenging financial

4679
04:01:41,560 --> 04:01:44,080
situation economically uh at at the

4680
04:01:44,080 --> 04:01:46,319
moment uh people are being squeezed from

4681
04:01:46,319 --> 04:01:49,000
a lot of different sides in April we

4682
04:01:49,000 --> 04:01:51,920
Face uh fairly significant interest

4683
04:01:51,920 --> 04:01:55,439
increase in the carbon tax um there's

4684
04:01:55,439 --> 04:01:57,840
new rules coming around the capital

4685
04:01:57,840 --> 04:02:00,120
capital gains that are not back by

4686
04:02:00,120 --> 04:02:02,680
legislation but that's besides Point um

4687
04:02:02,680 --> 04:02:05,600
and given what uh the incoming president

4688
04:02:05,600 --> 04:02:09,399
is suggesting he may or may not do um

4689
04:02:09,399 --> 04:02:10,920
you know certainly a lot of people in

4690
04:02:10,920 --> 04:02:12,600
Duff are going to be squeezed by that

4691
04:02:12,600 --> 04:02:14,439
not the least of which is anybody in the

4692
04:02:14,439 --> 04:02:16,840
farming industry who deals with

4693
04:02:16,840 --> 04:02:19,800
commodity prices on a regular basis um

4694
04:02:19,800 --> 04:02:22,040
you know costs are going to go up uh

4695
04:02:22,040 --> 04:02:23,640
revenues will probably go down and

4696
04:02:23,640 --> 04:02:25,159
that'll have a knock on effect on just

4697
04:02:25,159 --> 04:02:28,080
about every other business in Du County

4698
04:02:28,080 --> 04:02:31,960
um so I would think uh given that this

4699
04:02:31,960 --> 04:02:34,920
is the first year of the Project Lead uh

4700
04:02:34,920 --> 04:02:36,760
position maybe there's a way we could

4701
04:02:36,760 --> 04:02:40,000
fund that out of reserves uh because

4702
04:02:40,000 --> 04:02:43,159
reserves essentially are are u a lot of

4703
04:02:43,159 --> 04:02:44,600
them are supposed to to be rainy day

4704
04:02:44,600 --> 04:02:47,680
funds and it's raining uh so maybe

4705
04:02:47,680 --> 04:02:50,880
there's a way we can uh take roll back

4706
04:02:50,880 --> 04:02:52,479
the budget increase a little bit by

4707
04:02:52,479 --> 04:02:54,560
using reserves for the first year of

4708
04:02:54,560 --> 04:02:57,640
this position it's already built into

4709
04:02:57,640 --> 04:03:00,239
the proposed next year's budget uh so

4710
04:03:00,239 --> 04:03:01,560
that maybe that should be something we

4711
04:03:01,560 --> 04:03:04,319
should look at even if it's a reduction

4712
04:03:04,319 --> 04:03:07,439
in the transfer to reserve that offsets

4713
04:03:07,439 --> 04:03:09,479
maybe that's a way we could you know

4714
04:03:09,479 --> 04:03:25,590
maybe lower our increase a little bit

4715
04:03:25,600 --> 04:03:27,359
is there an amount that you would like

4716
04:03:27,359 --> 04:03:29,199
me to include with

4717
04:03:29,199 --> 04:03:31,640
that well I think we could probably look

4718
04:03:31,640 --> 04:03:33,760
at moving that entire amount into

4719
04:03:33,760 --> 04:03:35,960
Reserves at least for the first year

4720
04:03:35,960 --> 04:03:37,520
until we sort of have a better

4721
04:03:37,520 --> 04:03:39,159
understanding of where we're going with

4722
04:03:39,159 --> 04:03:40,960
with that which is the whole point of

4723
04:03:40,960 --> 04:03:46,590
bringing on the project lead

4724
04:03:46,600 --> 04:03:48,520
y we can do

4725
04:03:48,520 --> 04:03:52,239
that I didn't I didn't quite understand

4726
04:03:52,239 --> 04:03:54,399
the last comment move what the the

4727
04:03:54,399 --> 04:03:56,760
500,000 is that what you're

4728
04:03:56,760 --> 04:03:59,920
134 essentially I'll just apply

4729
04:03:59,920 --> 04:04:03,000
$134,800 from reserves to offset the

4730
04:04:03,000 --> 04:04:11,309
cost of the Project

4731
04:04:11,319 --> 04:04:15,359
Lead that is Direction

4732
04:04:15,359 --> 04:04:22,309
it's on the list we have it on the list

4733
04:04:22,319 --> 04:04:25,680
list okay um councelor mlan sorry just

4734
04:04:25,680 --> 04:04:28,720
to clarify though so the the plans don't

4735
04:04:28,720 --> 04:04:30,399
change you're just looking at how to

4736
04:04:30,399 --> 04:04:32,239
fund it differently to reduce the levy

4737
04:04:32,239 --> 04:04:35,680
is that right okay thank

4738
04:04:35,680 --> 04:04:40,510
you

4739
04:04:40,520 --> 04:04:44,279
Phil thank you um

4740
04:04:44,279 --> 04:04:48,159
this is my only um strategic plan

4741
04:04:48,159 --> 04:04:51,199
priority and so in that sense I I

4742
04:04:51,199 --> 04:04:53,600
support well I I support doing a lot

4743
04:04:53,600 --> 04:04:55,720
more than what we're doing and a lot

4744
04:04:55,720 --> 04:04:57,920
faster

4745
04:04:57,920 --> 04:05:02,920
um saying that my understanding from the

4746
04:05:02,920 --> 04:05:04,239
housing

4747
04:05:04,239 --> 04:05:09,640
strategy was there wasn't going to be

4748
04:05:09,640 --> 04:05:12,120
anything built for a number of

4749
04:05:12,120 --> 04:05:16,000
years and that makes me curious as to

4750
04:05:16,000 --> 04:05:19,040
what the Project Lead would be

4751
04:05:19,040 --> 04:05:23,239
doing and why we would also need in

4752
04:05:23,239 --> 04:05:25,600
addition to having a Project Lead we

4753
04:05:25,600 --> 04:05:26,640
would

4754
04:05:26,640 --> 04:05:29,479
require uh another

4755
04:05:29,479 --> 04:05:34,399
$50,000 for consulting services so um I

4756
04:05:34,399 --> 04:05:37,279
I don't know who could address that but

4757
04:05:37,279 --> 04:05:39,359
if somebody could take a stab at it I'd

4758
04:05:39,359 --> 04:05:41,279
really appreciate

4759
04:05:41,279 --> 04:05:44,279
it through you Warden herner I I will

4760
04:05:44,279 --> 04:05:46,279
take a step at it and and if I get into

4761
04:05:46,279 --> 04:05:47,800
trouble I'm going to look to Brenda for

4762
04:05:47,800 --> 04:05:48,680
some

4763
04:05:48,680 --> 04:05:52,520
help um so as you recall at the council

4764
04:05:52,520 --> 04:05:54,239
meeting when the housing strategy was

4765
04:05:54,239 --> 04:05:56,279
reviewed there was some direction given

4766
04:05:56,279 --> 04:05:59,439
to try and expedite a process where we

4767
04:05:59,439 --> 04:06:01,640
would identify three properties that

4768
04:06:01,640 --> 04:06:05,600
could be um given a priority and so uh

4769
04:06:05,600 --> 04:06:07,279
there have been some conversations with

4770
04:06:07,279 --> 04:06:09,800
the Consulting team that was working on

4771
04:06:09,800 --> 04:06:12,640
the original part of of the project and

4772
04:06:12,640 --> 04:06:16,199
they are moving ahead with figuring out

4773
04:06:16,199 --> 04:06:17,920
what the next piece of implementation

4774
04:06:17,920 --> 04:06:19,760
would look like and part of that next

4775
04:06:19,760 --> 04:06:22,960
role is to work with the um planning

4776
04:06:22,960 --> 04:06:25,319
staff in both Orangeville and shelburn

4777
04:06:25,319 --> 04:06:29,600
uh to ter to determine um how those

4778
04:06:29,600 --> 04:06:32,040
particular sites that were identified

4779
04:06:32,040 --> 04:06:34,080
could actually accommodate uh the

4780
04:06:34,080 --> 04:06:35,680
properties within sort of the planning

4781
04:06:35,680 --> 04:06:37,120
constraints within both of those

4782
04:06:37,120 --> 04:06:39,800
municipalities so that a a fair amount

4783
04:06:39,800 --> 04:06:43,040
of that Consulting uh number is to get

4784
04:06:43,040 --> 04:06:45,760
that work done so that we know exactly

4785
04:06:45,760 --> 04:06:49,080
from a planning perspective um how we

4786
04:06:49,080 --> 04:06:52,120
could move which Pro which properties

4787
04:06:52,120 --> 04:06:54,279
are the top three because we that

4788
04:06:54,279 --> 04:06:56,880
original list was done just on a a

4789
04:06:56,880 --> 04:06:58,359
preliminary assessment but now we're

4790
04:06:58,359 --> 04:06:59,880
doing sort of the real deep dive

4791
04:06:59,880 --> 04:07:01,399
assessment on which three properties

4792
04:07:01,399 --> 04:07:04,560
would work the best and then once that

4793
04:07:04,560 --> 04:07:07,439
is done uh which will be quite soon and

4794
04:07:07,439 --> 04:07:09,159
there's also some consultation that goes

4795
04:07:09,159 --> 04:07:10,600
along with that because we don't want to

4796
04:07:10,600 --> 04:07:12,399
pick three properties and then find out

4797
04:07:12,399 --> 04:07:15,359
that you know from a from a community

4798
04:07:15,359 --> 04:07:16,720
perspective or from a servicing

4799
04:07:16,720 --> 04:07:18,840
perspective it doesn't make any sense uh

4800
04:07:18,840 --> 04:07:20,199
and then the Project Lead would come

4801
04:07:20,199 --> 04:07:23,040
into onto the scene and take over from

4802
04:07:23,040 --> 04:07:25,119
there and start to really bring together

4803
04:07:25,119 --> 04:07:26,920
the resources required to start

4804
04:07:26,920 --> 04:07:29,520
developing plans for those specific

4805
04:07:29,520 --> 04:07:31,760
three properties to look at funding

4806
04:07:31,760 --> 04:07:34,040
opportunities that could be utilized and

4807
04:07:34,040 --> 04:07:36,319
to find most importantly to find

4808
04:07:36,319 --> 04:07:39,960
Partners who could actually build and

4809
04:07:39,960 --> 04:07:42,640
operate those fa facilities on those

4810
04:07:42,640 --> 04:07:44,439
three properties so that's the

4811
04:07:44,439 --> 04:07:46,159
preliminary plan as we see it now there

4812
04:07:46,159 --> 04:07:48,000
may need to be some tweaks but that's

4813
04:07:48,000 --> 04:07:51,990
pretty much how it looks at this

4814
04:07:52,000 --> 04:07:54,840
point anyone

4815
04:07:54,840 --> 04:07:57,800
else okay Brenda you're off the hook on

4816
04:07:57,800 --> 04:08:00,830
that

4817
04:08:00,840 --> 04:08:03,199
one okay

4818
04:08:03,199 --> 04:08:07,070
Amy okay

4819
04:08:07,080 --> 04:08:12,080
so the next slide where am

4820
04:08:12,080 --> 04:08:16,239
I okay Community servic is done move on

4821
04:08:16,239 --> 04:08:18,080
to

4822
04:08:18,080 --> 04:08:21,680
defo the status quo increase uh for all

4823
04:08:21,680 --> 04:08:24,960
of duffo is 74% it includes Long-Term

4824
04:08:24,960 --> 04:08:26,640
Care Community Support Services and

4825
04:08:26,640 --> 04:08:27,880
maloid

4826
04:08:27,880 --> 04:08:30,840
Center um you'll notice that there's a

4827
04:08:30,840 --> 04:08:33,840
big increase in meloid center and a

4828
04:08:33,840 --> 04:08:37,119
decrease in long-term care and that 100%

4829
04:08:37,119 --> 04:08:39,199
relates to Capital there's a growing

4830
04:08:39,199 --> 04:08:42,399
need in meloid Center in 2025 for more

4831
04:08:42,399 --> 04:08:45,319
Capital dollars so all that I've done

4832
04:08:45,319 --> 04:08:47,159
here is I've reduced the contribution to

4833
04:08:47,159 --> 04:08:49,399
capital for long-term care and increased

4834
04:08:49,399 --> 04:08:51,399
it by exactly the same amount and the

4835
04:08:51,399 --> 04:08:56,030
meloid center which is

4836
04:08:56,040 --> 04:08:59,439
$200,000 um there are some proposed

4837
04:08:59,439 --> 04:09:02,040
additions which result in four the

4838
04:09:02,040 --> 04:09:04,279
increase being

4839
04:09:04,279 --> 04:09:07,159
4.82 and then we have a

4840
04:09:07,159 --> 04:09:09,439
capital there's a they have a lot a

4841
04:09:09,439 --> 04:09:11,279
couple of really large projects you'll

4842
04:09:11,279 --> 04:09:15,840
see in 2025 the triple bar is quite high

4843
04:09:15,840 --> 04:09:18,920
and then we pretty much deplete the fund

4844
04:09:18,920 --> 04:09:20,560
and then we need to build it up again

4845
04:09:20,560 --> 04:09:23,990
for future large

4846
04:09:24,000 --> 04:09:25,800
projects okay we're going to move into

4847
04:09:25,800 --> 04:09:27,040
long-term

4848
04:09:27,040 --> 04:09:29,840
care user fees are revenues from

4849
04:09:29,840 --> 04:09:31,520
residents which have seen an increase

4850
04:09:31,520 --> 04:09:34,640
over the last year uh we've also seen

4851
04:09:34,640 --> 04:09:36,159
increases to Ministry funding

4852
04:09:36,159 --> 04:09:38,600
particularly aimed at addressing

4853
04:09:38,600 --> 04:09:40,199
increased Direct Care Staffing

4854
04:09:40,199 --> 04:09:43,750
requirements

4855
04:09:43,760 --> 04:09:46,119
on the expense side at the time we

4856
04:09:46,119 --> 04:09:48,800
pulled this together we had 118

4857
04:09:48,800 --> 04:09:51,960
full-time and 1331 part-time positions

4858
04:09:51,960 --> 04:09:54,880
at duffen Oaks including six contract

4859
04:09:54,880 --> 04:09:58,080
positions as somebody who sees payroll

4860
04:09:58,080 --> 04:10:00,399
quite often it changes constantly

4861
04:10:00,399 --> 04:10:03,359
there's people always coming and always

4862
04:10:03,359 --> 04:10:05,720
going um the

4863
04:10:05,720 --> 04:10:08,119
increase uh in the salaries and benefits

4864
04:10:08,119 --> 04:10:10,840
are you going to do next slide T we did

4865
04:10:10,840 --> 04:10:12,600
add additional hours due to the

4866
04:10:12,600 --> 04:10:14,680
increased funding as well we shifted to

4867
04:10:14,680 --> 04:10:16,520
social worker from an external contract

4868
04:10:16,520 --> 04:10:19,399
to full-time position in 2024 and the

4869
04:10:19,399 --> 04:10:26,030
balance is just regular Staffing

4870
04:10:26,040 --> 04:10:30,119
increases um expenses 2024 included

4871
04:10:30,119 --> 04:10:32,880
$150,000 for the older adult study uh

4872
04:10:32,880 --> 04:10:34,319
which is leading to a decrease in

4873
04:10:34,319 --> 04:10:37,199
admitted office in 2025 we have an

4874
04:10:37,199 --> 04:10:39,119
increase in legal fees to support Union

4875
04:10:39,119 --> 04:10:41,600
negotiations of SE um to

4876
04:10:41,600 --> 04:10:43,840
$70,000 additional amount

4877
04:10:43,840 --> 04:10:45,439
have been included for a multi-year

4878
04:10:45,439 --> 04:10:49,670
project to replace office furniture

4879
04:10:49,680 --> 04:10:52,479
$14,500 Service delivery includes uh

4880
04:10:52,479 --> 04:10:56,119
$910,000 for food we have

4881
04:10:56,119 --> 04:10:58,680
$233,400 for external contracts to

4882
04:10:58,680 --> 04:11:01,279
support the residents and nearly

4883
04:11:01,279 --> 04:11:03,800
$635,000 in supplies and products to

4884
04:11:03,800 --> 04:11:06,399
support staff and residents and then the

4885
04:11:06,399 --> 04:11:09,520
internal Services uh used is the it

4886
04:11:09,520 --> 04:11:11,960
position that we talked about earlier in

4887
04:11:11,960 --> 04:11:14,920
ggs

4888
04:11:14,920 --> 04:11:17,239
transfers um we do have a transfer from

4889
04:11:17,239 --> 04:11:20,239
the wsib uh fund to offset Associated

4890
04:11:20,239 --> 04:11:24,159
costs we talked about the um claim and

4891
04:11:24,159 --> 04:11:26,760
um Insurance costs within people in

4892
04:11:26,760 --> 04:11:28,960
equity but we do charge directly

4893
04:11:28,960 --> 04:11:31,680
different Oak shared at different

4894
04:11:31,680 --> 04:11:35,720
Oaks and then

4895
04:11:35,720 --> 04:11:37,439
um the

4896
04:11:37,439 --> 04:11:40,760
$172,000 is an allocation to Capital of

4897
04:11:40,760 --> 04:11:44,199
uh funding that they receive

4898
04:11:44,199 --> 04:11:46,279
for proposed additions the net increase

4899
04:11:46,279 --> 04:11:46,960
is

4900
04:11:46,960 --> 04:11:49,640
$64,000 and relates to the medical

4901
04:11:49,640 --> 04:11:53,439
secretary um proposed to start in March

4902
04:11:53,439 --> 04:11:58,119
at a cost of $61,200 plus 4500 for um

4903
04:11:58,119 --> 04:11:59,960
and support costs in a

4904
04:11:59,960 --> 04:12:02,960
laptop and then the annualized cost is

4905
04:12:02,960 --> 04:12:05,439
$74,000 are there any questions on that

4906
04:12:05,439 --> 04:12:10,389
for

4907
04:12:10,399 --> 04:12:15,269
Brenda okay

4908
04:12:15,279 --> 04:12:16,960
the capital asset

4909
04:12:16,960 --> 04:12:20,239
fund uh lots of ups and done Downs over

4910
04:12:20,239 --> 04:12:21,720
the next couple years for the for

4911
04:12:21,720 --> 04:12:23,479
longterm

4912
04:12:23,479 --> 04:12:27,600
care the amount uh the 1.48 for the

4913
04:12:27,600 --> 04:12:29,880
prior year carry forward this includes

4914
04:12:29,880 --> 04:12:33,199
uh fire alarm panels of 220 security of

4915
04:12:33,199 --> 04:12:35,159
400 and nurse

4916
04:12:35,159 --> 04:12:38,960
call and the balance of that is um we

4917
04:12:38,960 --> 04:12:40,199
actually received some additional

4918
04:12:40,199 --> 04:12:42,760
funding in 2024 that we were able to

4919
04:12:42,760 --> 04:12:44,760
apply applied to the capital asset fund

4920
04:12:44,760 --> 04:12:48,960
instead of using um the tax levy dollars

4921
04:12:48,960 --> 04:12:51,199
so we I think added an additional over

4922
04:12:51,199 --> 04:12:56,670
$500,000 to the fund so that's what that

4923
04:12:56,680 --> 04:13:01,119
is um contributions as I said earlier

4924
04:13:01,119 --> 04:13:02,880
there's a significant decrease in the

4925
04:13:02,880 --> 04:13:04,600
capital um

4926
04:13:04,600 --> 04:13:08,080
Levy for long-term

4927
04:13:08,080 --> 04:13:10,239
care uh yeah I already spoke about this

4928
04:13:10,239 --> 04:13:11,720
so I don't to speak it again so other

4929
04:13:11,720 --> 04:13:13,119
revenue is the allocation of preven

4930
04:13:13,119 --> 04:13:16,950
itial funding from operating of about

4931
04:13:16,960 --> 04:13:20,080
$192,000 Capital work is just over $3.1

4932
04:13:20,080 --> 04:13:23,950
million for

4933
04:13:23,960 --> 04:13:25,880
2025 land

4934
04:13:25,880 --> 04:13:27,880
improvements and we have exterior

4935
04:13:27,880 --> 04:13:31,119
walkway um and patios of $440,000 you

4936
04:13:31,119 --> 04:13:33,920
can go the next one um buildings include

4937
04:13:33,920 --> 04:13:36,680
security of 400,000 updates of the fire

4938
04:13:36,680 --> 04:13:38,279
alarm

4939
04:13:38,279 --> 04:13:41,800
panel our largest project um is the

4940
04:13:41,800 --> 04:13:43,840
replacement of four roof top units at

4941
04:13:43,840 --> 04:13:47,040
$1.75 million Renovations of

4942
04:13:47,040 --> 04:13:49,279
housekeeping closets at 25,000 and

4943
04:13:49,279 --> 04:13:53,030
replacement of laundry room floor of $

4944
04:13:53,040 --> 04:13:55,920
35,000 uh within equipment and Machinery

4945
04:13:55,920 --> 04:13:57,560
we have regular replacement of mass

4946
04:13:57,560 --> 04:14:00,000
Raiders of $24,000 we have kitchen

4947
04:14:00,000 --> 04:14:02,720
laundry and bathing equipment of 94,000

4948
04:14:02,720 --> 04:14:06,520
furniture of 66 and lifts of

4949
04:14:06,520 --> 04:14:08,960
$60,000 Vehicles include an ongoing

4950
04:14:08,960 --> 04:14:10,479
replacement of the Community Support

4951
04:14:10,479 --> 04:14:13,560
Services 2025 includes 24

4952
04:14:13,560 --> 04:14:17,600
,000 for two accessible wheelchair

4953
04:14:17,600 --> 04:14:20,760
vans other includes the nurse call

4954
04:14:20,760 --> 04:14:23,040
upgrades which started in

4955
04:14:23,040 --> 04:14:26,080
2024 uh we included

4956
04:14:26,080 --> 04:14:29,000
$150,000 in the 2025 budget as we

4957
04:14:29,000 --> 04:14:31,399
anticipated work would commence in 2024

4958
04:14:31,399 --> 04:14:33,239
we actually need to increase the two

4959
04:14:33,239 --> 04:14:34,760
this to

4960
04:14:34,760 --> 04:14:38,040
275 um they just weren't able to get

4961
04:14:38,040 --> 04:14:39,439
started on the work they had some issues

4962
04:14:39,439 --> 04:14:42,760
with the with the um vendor um the funds

4963
04:14:42,760 --> 04:14:45,119
of already been raised or included in

4964
04:14:45,119 --> 04:14:46,439
that 1

4965
04:14:46,439 --> 04:14:48,640
point six or whatever it was that we

4966
04:14:48,640 --> 04:14:50,840
carried forward so it's just increas in

4967
04:14:50,840 --> 04:14:54,760
the work value no impact on the tax

4968
04:14:54,760 --> 04:14:57,640
levy summarizing Long-Term Care status

4969
04:14:57,640 --> 04:15:00,560
quo operating is 05% when we add in

4970
04:15:00,560 --> 04:15:04,000
capital it decreases to minus 3.44 and

4971
04:15:04,000 --> 04:15:06,359
then with the proposed additions minus

4972
04:15:06,359 --> 04:15:09,080
2.32 any questions on Long long-term

4973
04:15:09,080 --> 04:15:13,630
care

4974
04:15:13,640 --> 04:15:17,710
moving to Community Support

4975
04:15:17,720 --> 04:15:20,159
Services on the revenue side they

4976
04:15:20,159 --> 04:15:22,399
received an increase to funding in 2024

4977
04:15:22,399 --> 04:15:26,439
for assisted living of uh just over

4978
04:15:26,439 --> 04:15:30,880
$510,000 on the expense side they're up

4979
04:15:30,880 --> 04:15:36,119
$550,000 uh which is the new uh funding

4980
04:15:36,119 --> 04:15:38,119
there are four full-time positions three

4981
04:15:38,119 --> 04:15:40,119
part-time positions and 11 casual

4982
04:15:40,119 --> 04:15:44,319
positions within um this division

4983
04:15:44,319 --> 04:15:46,439
other

4984
04:15:46,439 --> 04:15:49,720
highlights um mileage we've decreased it

4985
04:15:49,720 --> 04:15:52,520
to 46300 just to better reflect our

4986
04:15:52,520 --> 04:15:55,640
actual and then the assistant living

4987
04:15:55,640 --> 04:15:58,399
funding and Service

4988
04:15:58,399 --> 04:16:01,000
delivery there are a few proposed

4989
04:16:01,000 --> 04:16:03,720
increases to community Ser Support

4990
04:16:03,720 --> 04:16:05,520
Services the total is

4991
04:16:05,520 --> 04:16:09,840
$191,000 which then more than doubles in

4992
04:16:09,840 --> 04:16:12,359
2026 previously committed includes

4993
04:16:12,359 --> 04:16:15,760
Transit of 168 that has been

4994
04:16:15,760 --> 04:16:20,319
budgeted um we've offset that by $80,000

4995
04:16:20,319 --> 04:16:23,840
transfer from the rate stabilization

4996
04:16:23,840 --> 04:16:26,520
reserve the new you can go to the next

4997
04:16:26,520 --> 04:16:28,680
slide on the new to

4998
04:16:28,680 --> 04:16:31,760
2025 all relates to the older adult Str

4999
04:16:31,760 --> 04:16:33,439
the implementation of the older adult

5000
04:16:33,439 --> 04:16:36,319
strategy a supervisory level position is

5001
04:16:36,319 --> 04:16:38,560
recommended which would also support the

5002
04:16:38,560 --> 04:16:40,159
implementation of the enhanced

5003
04:16:40,159 --> 04:16:43,199
Transportation plan 25% of this position

5004
04:16:43,199 --> 04:16:44,960
would be allocated to support the older

5005
04:16:44,960 --> 04:16:46,640
adult

5006
04:16:46,640 --> 04:16:49,680
transportation and and 75% towards

5007
04:16:49,680 --> 04:16:52,119
Community Support Services atmin the

5008
04:16:52,119 --> 04:16:54,279
total cost for the year is

5009
04:16:54,279 --> 04:16:56,680
140,000 um including benefits training

5010
04:16:56,680 --> 04:16:57,800
and new

5011
04:16:57,800 --> 04:16:59,640
computer

5012
04:16:59,640 --> 04:17:03,239
uh program related costs include a

5013
04:17:03,239 --> 04:17:05,119
part-time driver as well as vehicle

5014
04:17:05,119 --> 04:17:07,520
related costs the revenue collected from

5015
04:17:07,520 --> 04:17:11,040
user fees result in a net cost of

5016
04:17:11,040 --> 04:17:13,119
$38,000 uh which doesn't includ include

5017
04:17:13,119 --> 04:17:16,359
the supervisor above next we've included

5018
04:17:16,359 --> 04:17:18,800
$10,000 um to support a marketing plan

5019
04:17:18,800 --> 04:17:22,119
for senior services and then lastly uh

5020
04:17:22,119 --> 04:17:24,119
we included a transfer from the rate

5021
04:17:24,119 --> 04:17:26,560
stabilization Reserve to offset the

5022
04:17:26,560 --> 04:17:28,520
increase of this was there any questions

5023
04:17:28,520 --> 04:17:29,319
on

5024
04:17:29,319 --> 04:17:31,520
this councelor

5025
04:17:31,520 --> 04:17:34,080
Garretts I think the so the marketing

5026
04:17:34,080 --> 04:17:36,119
plan is probably directly related to I

5027
04:17:36,119 --> 04:17:38,119
think the study showed that

5028
04:17:38,119 --> 04:17:41,479
the the the older adults were not aware

5029
04:17:41,479 --> 04:17:43,119
of the lot of the programming and that's

5030
04:17:43,119 --> 04:17:44,319
why they weren't accessing them is that

5031
04:17:44,319 --> 04:17:46,960
correct so this is to sort of address

5032
04:17:46,960 --> 04:17:49,399
that through you Warden that is

5033
04:17:49,399 --> 04:17:52,239
absolutely correct and even targeting

5034
04:17:52,239 --> 04:17:54,840
with um you know the medical community

5035
04:17:54,840 --> 04:17:56,319
to make sure that they're aware of the

5036
04:17:56,319 --> 04:17:58,560
programs and can share that as well okay

5037
04:17:58,560 --> 04:18:09,670
good

5038
04:18:09,680 --> 04:18:12,119
thanks Rising Community Support Services

5039
04:18:12,119 --> 04:18:14,040
the status qu is

5040
04:18:14,040 --> 04:18:16,399
14.21% and with the proposed additions

5041
04:18:16,399 --> 04:18:20,040
the total increase becomes 83.1

5042
04:18:20,040 --> 04:18:23,119
5% moving on to the Malloy

5043
04:18:23,119 --> 04:18:26,080
Center um Regular increases to rent are

5044
04:18:26,080 --> 04:18:28,279
here other revenue is cleaning costs

5045
04:18:28,279 --> 04:18:30,880
associated with early

5046
04:18:30,880 --> 04:18:34,119
years um there are no direct Staffing

5047
04:18:34,119 --> 04:18:38,229
costs with the Malloy

5048
04:18:38,239 --> 04:18:41,000
Center highlights on the expenses uh

5049
04:18:41,000 --> 04:18:43,600
facilities includes $20,000 increase to

5050
04:18:43,600 --> 04:18:45,040
building maintenance cost to better

5051
04:18:45,040 --> 04:18:47,600
reflect actual costs the addition of

5052
04:18:47,600 --> 04:18:50,319
snow clearing cost of $25,000 which was

5053
04:18:50,319 --> 04:18:51,880
previously included in the internal

5054
04:18:51,880 --> 04:18:53,880
Services

5055
04:18:53,880 --> 04:18:55,840
recovered uh previously the snow

5056
04:18:55,840 --> 04:18:57,720
clearing contract was one amount for the

5057
04:18:57,720 --> 04:19:00,279
entire complex the new contract allowed

5058
04:19:00,279 --> 04:19:02,760
us to um break up the cost by building

5059
04:19:02,760 --> 04:19:06,349
and therefore we were able to make those

5060
04:19:06,359 --> 04:19:08,680
adjustments the Cal asset fund will be

5061
04:19:08,680 --> 04:19:13,040
in a negative at the end of 2025

5062
04:19:13,040 --> 04:19:17,550
uh despite the doubling of the capital

5063
04:19:17,560 --> 04:19:22,080
Levy um the prior year carry forward of

5064
04:19:22,080 --> 04:19:25,239
$54,000 um actually when I reviewed this

5065
04:19:25,239 --> 04:19:27,199
Slide the prior your carry forward made

5066
04:19:27,199 --> 04:19:30,159
no sense to me it should actually be

5067
04:19:30,159 --> 04:19:32,439
$150,000 um as we differred both

5068
04:19:32,439 --> 04:19:35,399
security at a $20,000 and washrooms at1

5069
04:19:35,399 --> 04:19:37,920
130 it looks like the opening balance

5070
04:19:37,920 --> 04:19:40,080
that I have in there for 2024 is

5071
04:19:40,080 --> 04:19:42,279
actually incorrect so once I change that

5072
04:19:42,279 --> 04:19:44,800
the Never everything will be

5073
04:19:44,800 --> 04:19:48,880
fixed I'll fix it in the final budget

5074
04:19:48,880 --> 04:19:51,239
package um in terms of the capital work

5075
04:19:51,239 --> 04:19:53,479
plan we have just over $500,000 planned

5076
04:19:53,479 --> 04:19:54,479
for

5077
04:19:54,479 --> 04:19:57,199
2025 this includes updates to the fire

5078
04:19:57,199 --> 04:19:58,840
alarm panel of

5079
04:19:58,840 --> 04:20:01,680
$100,000 regular replacement of several

5080
04:20:01,680 --> 04:20:04,920
HVAC uh systems at 212 Renovations of

5081
04:20:04,920 --> 04:20:06,119
the public

5082
04:20:06,119 --> 04:20:09,600
washrooms um 130,000 and then as needed

5083
04:20:09,600 --> 04:20:16,630
window replacements for 45,000

5084
04:20:16,640 --> 04:20:18,239
summarizing the metaloid center the

5085
04:20:18,239 --> 04:20:21,479
status quo is 88.8 five which looks huge

5086
04:20:21,479 --> 04:20:23,600
but of course that's the shift um from

5087
04:20:23,600 --> 04:20:25,319
Capital if we hadn't done that shift the

5088
04:20:25,319 --> 04:20:27,279
increase would have only been

5089
04:20:27,279 --> 04:20:33,510
1.74% are there any questions on meloid

5090
04:20:33,520 --> 04:20:36,920
Center so again we have the

5091
04:20:36,920 --> 04:20:41,640
status uh quo and then the proposed

5092
04:20:41,640 --> 04:20:44,880
additions Steve you have a question yes

5093
04:20:44,880 --> 04:20:47,040
thank you uh Madame Warden I was just

5094
04:20:47,040 --> 04:20:48,720
wondering about the status of the

5095
04:20:48,720 --> 04:20:52,920
property on Highway 89 and the Town Line

5096
04:20:52,920 --> 04:20:55,359
Highway 89 and Town Line Between Amar

5097
04:20:55,359 --> 04:20:57,239
Anthony Luther we talked about selling

5098
04:20:57,239 --> 04:21:00,119
that or talked about maybe selling that

5099
04:21:00,119 --> 04:21:02,800
or not I just wonder where we are or

5100
04:21:02,800 --> 04:21:05,600
could we use explore that again and

5101
04:21:05,600 --> 04:21:08,840
maybe use that money somewhere this

5102
04:21:08,840 --> 04:21:20,429
budget or next

5103
04:21:20,439 --> 04:21:23,279
sorry Steve I'm not sure anybody has an

5104
04:21:23,279 --> 04:21:30,920
answer um no I don't either or

5105
04:21:30,920 --> 04:21:32,840
counselor we're talking about the

5106
04:21:32,840 --> 04:21:37,000
property at East Lutheran and um H 25 I

5107
04:21:37,000 --> 04:21:39,640
think so so the dep Federation of

5108
04:21:39,640 --> 04:21:41,520
Agriculture is planning to bring their

5109
04:21:41,520 --> 04:21:44,279
proposal forward I believe to the next

5110
04:21:44,279 --> 04:21:48,359
uh Economic Development Tourism

5111
04:21:48,359 --> 04:21:50,159
Committee

5112
04:21:50,159 --> 04:21:52,319
meeting all right thank you as long as

5113
04:21:52,319 --> 04:21:55,239
we're it's on our mind and it's

5114
04:21:55,239 --> 04:21:56,960
forgotten as far as they're concerned

5115
04:21:56,960 --> 04:21:58,479
they've been putting

5116
04:21:58,479 --> 04:22:02,199
that proposal together okay well my like

5117
04:22:02,199 --> 04:22:05,800
would be uh tell it and throw the

5118
04:22:05,800 --> 04:22:09,159
profits at something human uh like in

5119
04:22:09,159 --> 04:22:12,319
the uh in the services we provide in in

5120
04:22:12,319 --> 04:22:14,040
our are

5121
04:22:14,040 --> 04:22:18,239
uh towards uh the poor and the destitute

5122
04:22:18,239 --> 04:22:21,040
but thank you very much thank you Steve

5123
04:22:21,040 --> 04:22:22,720
Raj did you have a

5124
04:22:22,720 --> 04:22:25,319
point yeah um through you Warden white

5125
04:22:25,319 --> 04:22:27,800
I'm not Warden white sorry okay he's

5126
04:22:27,800 --> 04:22:30,040
over there so used to saying Warden

5127
04:22:30,040 --> 04:22:34,000
white sorry I know so am I um through

5128
04:22:34,000 --> 04:22:37,199
you Warden Herer um we actually have

5129
04:22:37,199 --> 04:22:39,439
been in contact with um the de

5130
04:22:39,439 --> 04:22:41,319
Federation of Agriculture with regards

5131
04:22:41,319 --> 04:22:43,439
to the the pasture project they should

5132
04:22:43,439 --> 04:22:45,399
be coming forward with a proposal and we

5133
04:22:45,399 --> 04:22:48,119
have been in regular meetings with them

5134
04:22:48,119 --> 04:22:51,439
um so I anticipate at the January 23rd

5135
04:22:51,439 --> 04:22:53,319
uh committee meeting that we would have

5136
04:22:53,319 --> 04:22:55,159
something to discuss then and they will

5137
04:22:55,159 --> 04:22:56,800
also be coming forward as a delegation

5138
04:22:56,800 --> 04:23:03,469
to that meeting thank you thank

5139
04:23:03,479 --> 04:23:06,760
you okay just summarizing different Oaks

5140
04:23:06,760 --> 04:23:10,760
uh 74% status quo and then

5141
04:23:10,760 --> 04:23:15,149
4.82% with proposed

5142
04:23:15,159 --> 04:23:18,560
additions we're almost

5143
04:23:18,560 --> 04:23:22,159
done moving on to Health

5144
04:23:22,159 --> 04:23:24,600
Services uh this includes two areas

5145
04:23:24,600 --> 04:23:26,640
Paramedic Services and Public Health

5146
04:23:26,640 --> 04:23:28,319
Combined they have a status quo increase

5147
04:23:28,319 --> 04:23:29,600
of

5148
04:23:29,600 --> 04:23:36,830
2.64% with proposed additions it's

5149
04:23:36,840 --> 04:23:40,670
4.02 uh the

5150
04:23:40,680 --> 04:23:43,359
capital yeah this one if you look

5151
04:23:43,359 --> 04:23:45,920
closely the Orange Line does go in the

5152
04:23:45,920 --> 04:23:47,279
negative quite a

5153
04:23:47,279 --> 04:23:51,560
bit um part of the problem with we're

5154
04:23:51,560 --> 04:23:54,520
having doing this 20-year capital budget

5155
04:23:54,520 --> 04:23:56,840
relates to the ambulances we have to

5156
04:23:56,840 --> 04:23:58,159
order them one year and then we don't

5157
04:23:58,159 --> 04:24:00,479
get them until one or two years later so

5158
04:24:00,479 --> 04:24:02,800
it kind of just messes things up but I

5159
04:24:02,800 --> 04:24:07,389
hopefully it will all work out in the

5160
04:24:07,399 --> 04:24:09,920
end that's a great way to budget

5161
04:24:09,920 --> 04:24:12,920
hopefully

5162
04:24:12,920 --> 04:24:16,159
um okay moving the revenues so there's

5163
04:24:16,159 --> 04:24:19,920
an increase in subsidies uh we received

5164
04:24:19,920 --> 04:24:22,199
$116,400

5165
04:24:22,199 --> 04:24:25,359
increase to the offload nursing program

5166
04:24:25,359 --> 04:24:29,630
and then just regular increases to the

5167
04:24:29,640 --> 04:24:32,159
paramedics and other Revenue relates to

5168
04:24:32,159 --> 04:24:33,800
the community Paramedic program that is

5169
04:24:33,800 --> 04:24:35,359
funded through the

5170
04:24:35,359 --> 04:24:37,960
hospital on the expense side they do not

5171
04:24:37,960 --> 04:24:40,880
have any salary and benefits um as those

5172
04:24:40,880 --> 04:24:43,159
fall within service delivery as we

5173
04:24:43,159 --> 04:24:45,479
contract that with the hospital the net

5174
04:24:45,479 --> 04:24:50,750
increase in expenses is 3.15% or

5175
04:24:50,760 --> 04:24:53,600
$348,000 highlights on the midin office

5176
04:24:53,600 --> 04:24:56,199
2024 uh we had included a service review

5177
04:24:56,199 --> 04:24:58,199
which is offset by reserves we decided

5178
04:24:58,199 --> 04:25:00,279
to take a different path in 2025 and we

5179
04:25:00,279 --> 04:25:02,080
have that included in the

5180
04:25:02,080 --> 04:25:05,439
new Service delivery includes 2.6%

5181
04:25:05,439 --> 04:25:07,479
increase in the contract with Headwaters

5182
04:25:07,479 --> 04:25:10,880
Healthcare as well as 100 the $116,000

5183
04:25:10,880 --> 04:25:13,640
for offload nursing

5184
04:25:13,640 --> 04:25:15,359
facilities include snow clearing

5185
04:25:15,359 --> 04:25:17,600
increase of about 4,900 Grounds

5186
04:25:17,600 --> 04:25:21,000
Maintenance is increase of 5700 and then

5187
04:25:21,000 --> 04:25:25,550
other general maintenance increases of

5188
04:25:25,560 --> 04:25:28,560
11,000 moving on to the proposed

5189
04:25:28,560 --> 04:25:32,040
addition uh The Paramedic Services

5190
04:25:32,040 --> 04:25:35,119
master plan will provide a 10-year

5191
04:25:35,119 --> 04:25:37,239
forecast of what service needs will be

5192
04:25:37,239 --> 04:25:39,640
and how better to deliver those Services

5193
04:25:39,640 --> 04:25:41,239
the current contract with Headwaters

5194
04:25:41,239 --> 04:25:44,000
Healthcare expires this year prior to

5195
04:25:44,000 --> 04:25:45,800
Renewal a consultant will be engaged to

5196
04:25:45,800 --> 04:25:47,479
review the current model to ensure it

5197
04:25:47,479 --> 04:25:48,840
continues to meet the needs of the

5198
04:25:48,840 --> 04:25:51,040
community it is anticipated that the

5199
04:25:51,040 --> 04:25:52,840
same consultant will be able to perform

5200
04:25:52,840 --> 04:25:55,040
that the work

5201
04:25:55,040 --> 04:25:57,199
$100,000 um is included and we're

5202
04:25:57,199 --> 04:25:58,960
proposing to fund that from rate

5203
04:25:58,960 --> 04:26:02,319
stabilization as it is a one-time

5204
04:26:02,319 --> 04:26:05,319
thing the next is the additional shift

5205
04:26:05,319 --> 04:26:08,399
at um in shelburn there was a report

5206
04:26:08,399 --> 04:26:13,800
that went to Council in dis

5207
04:26:13,800 --> 04:26:16,359
okay I went to November HHS that um

5208
04:26:16,359 --> 04:26:19,239
talked about this um not going to read

5209
04:26:19,239 --> 04:26:20,680
all the details because hopefully you've

5210
04:26:20,680 --> 04:26:23,560
looked at that the proposed cost for

5211
04:26:23,560 --> 04:26:25,600
2024 is

5212
04:26:25,600 --> 04:26:29,399
$201,000 which is offset 50% by subsidy

5213
04:26:29,399 --> 04:26:31,600
and I just want to state that this is

5214
04:26:31,600 --> 04:26:34,520
only for 3 months so when it comes to

5215
04:26:34,520 --> 04:26:38,910
2026 this will be 4 times the

5216
04:26:38,920 --> 04:26:45,630
amount any questions

5217
04:26:45,640 --> 04:26:47,279
okay moving to

5218
04:26:47,279 --> 04:26:49,840
Capital there's a giant decrease in the

5219
04:26:49,840 --> 04:26:51,319
capital asset Fund in the next couple

5220
04:26:51,319 --> 04:26:54,119
years before it quickly goes back

5221
04:26:54,119 --> 04:26:58,239
up um the Capital Carry forward a 1.2 is

5222
04:26:58,239 --> 04:27:01,199
made up of $430,000 of ambulances which

5223
04:27:01,199 --> 04:27:03,760
we've ordered and haven't received yet

5224
04:27:03,760 --> 04:27:08,399
garage doors of 48,000 security of 70 uh

5225
04:27:08,399 --> 04:27:10,920
in vehicle laptops of $90,000 in

5226
04:27:10,920 --> 04:27:12,720
exterior wall work of

5227
04:27:12,720 --> 04:27:17,159
$2,000 this adds up to $658,000

5228
04:27:17,159 --> 04:27:21,239
the balance of the 1.2 is relates to

5229
04:27:21,239 --> 04:27:23,479
Prior year subsidies that we anticipated

5230
04:27:23,479 --> 04:27:26,040
that the province would claw back and

5231
04:27:26,040 --> 04:27:27,640
it's come to fruition that they're not

5232
04:27:27,640 --> 04:27:30,319
clawing back so we will be um adding it

5233
04:27:30,319 --> 04:27:36,149
in 2024 to their

5234
04:27:36,159 --> 04:27:39,119
revenue contributions um with the

5235
04:27:39,119 --> 04:27:42,239
addition of the surface and shellburn we

5236
04:27:42,239 --> 04:27:44,920
are able to apply development charges um

5237
04:27:44,920 --> 04:27:48,000
towards an ambulance

5238
04:27:48,000 --> 04:27:51,119
purchase the value of work for 2025 is

5239
04:27:51,119 --> 04:27:54,550
just over $1.6

5240
04:27:54,560 --> 04:27:56,920
million it includes design work for

5241
04:27:56,920 --> 04:27:58,640
parking lot replacement of

5242
04:27:58,640 --> 04:28:02,040
$5,000 security work for $1 120 which is

5243
04:28:02,040 --> 04:28:04,000
planned for all three stations garage

5244
04:28:04,000 --> 04:28:07,119
door Replacements of 75 two furnaces and

5245
04:28:07,119 --> 04:28:08,920
a boiler uh

5246
04:28:08,920 --> 04:28:11,479
$225,000 and work required to rectify

5247
04:28:11,479 --> 04:28:15,189
ongoing flooding issues of

5248
04:28:15,199 --> 04:28:17,640
75,000 we also include a small amount

5249
04:28:17,640 --> 04:28:19,800
for appliances which we just kind of

5250
04:28:19,800 --> 04:28:21,439
keep carrying forward until the actual

5251
04:28:21,439 --> 04:28:22,840
Appliance needs to be

5252
04:28:22,840 --> 04:28:26,199
replaced um 2025 includes the

5253
04:28:26,199 --> 04:28:28,239
replacement of two ambulances at

5254
04:28:28,239 --> 04:28:31,359
$225,000 each and then the balance owing

5255
04:28:31,359 --> 04:28:32,960
on three ambulances that have already

5256
04:28:32,960 --> 04:28:35,399
been ordered and we hope to get in 2025

5257
04:28:35,399 --> 04:28:38,800
of 430,000 and one Community paramedic

5258
04:28:38,800 --> 04:28:42,309
vehicle of 90

5259
04:28:42,319 --> 04:28:45,600
and then in relation to the new shift we

5260
04:28:45,600 --> 04:28:48,159
are proposing the addition of an

5261
04:28:48,159 --> 04:28:50,239
ambulance which we are offsetting with

5262
04:28:50,239 --> 04:28:52,760
development charges and then the last is

5263
04:28:52,760 --> 04:28:55,359
the command vehicle um that also was

5264
04:28:55,359 --> 04:28:57,600
covered in the report that Gary did and

5265
04:28:57,600 --> 04:29:00,880
adding that as a new vehicle for the

5266
04:29:00,880 --> 04:29:03,439
chief and the deputy chief any questions

5267
04:29:03,439 --> 04:29:05,750
on

5268
04:29:05,760 --> 04:29:09,479
those councelor Taylor I'm just curious

5269
04:29:09,479 --> 04:29:12,080
the um outside of the flooding issue

5270
04:29:12,080 --> 04:29:15,640
isues that we talked about what is what

5271
04:29:15,640 --> 04:29:19,880
is that building like um for long term

5272
04:29:19,880 --> 04:29:22,239
and I don't see like we don't have a

5273
04:29:22,239 --> 04:29:23,600
plan to replace it all the way up to

5274
04:29:23,600 --> 04:29:26,600
2044 right like are we're still we're

5275
04:29:26,600 --> 04:29:29,159
still good there we're happy

5276
04:29:29,159 --> 04:29:32,319
we're it feels like we're not doing

5277
04:29:32,319 --> 04:29:34,319
anything with the building necessarily

5278
04:29:34,319 --> 04:29:37,229
you wonder about

5279
04:29:37,239 --> 04:29:40,000
that Gary would you like to take that

5280
04:29:40,000 --> 04:29:44,119
one are you happy I'm happy through you

5281
04:29:44,119 --> 04:29:48,159
Warden white or Warden Herer um that is

5282
04:29:48,159 --> 04:29:49,840
part of the master plan that we've

5283
04:29:49,840 --> 04:29:52,279
proposed is that it would speak to that

5284
04:29:52,279 --> 04:29:56,080
whether we need more space um as you

5285
04:29:56,080 --> 04:29:58,000
know we're growing we've already

5286
04:29:58,000 --> 04:30:00,040
outgrown the current building in

5287
04:30:00,040 --> 04:30:02,479
Orangeville and have had to find some

5288
04:30:02,479 --> 04:30:03,920
space for our community paramedics

5289
04:30:03,920 --> 04:30:06,880
moving forward um so in that Master Plan

5290
04:30:06,880 --> 04:30:09,439
we're hoping that it would identify uh

5291
04:30:09,439 --> 04:30:11,479
what our needs would be for over 10

5292
04:30:11,479 --> 04:30:13,479
years for the town of Orangeville and

5293
04:30:13,479 --> 04:30:14,760
whether that would include another

5294
04:30:14,760 --> 04:30:17,399
building at another location or whether

5295
04:30:17,399 --> 04:30:20,080
we'd be able to actually do an addition

5296
04:30:20,080 --> 04:30:23,429
at the current

5297
04:30:23,439 --> 04:30:26,800
space if I could none of that is in here

5298
04:30:26,800 --> 04:30:28,560
right now right because we don't know

5299
04:30:28,560 --> 04:30:33,399
what we don't know so so this could

5300
04:30:33,399 --> 04:30:36,000
be magnified

5301
04:30:36,000 --> 04:30:38,279
significantly and is it your you just

5302
04:30:38,279 --> 04:30:40,119
said you're happy and it's great that

5303
04:30:40,119 --> 04:30:42,600
you're happy I'm I'm happy you're happy

5304
04:30:42,600 --> 04:30:46,040
but do you think that building is are we

5305
04:30:46,040 --> 04:30:49,790
into something just out of

5306
04:30:49,800 --> 04:30:52,600
curiosity in regards to the flooding

5307
04:30:52,600 --> 04:30:55,040
you're speaking of specifically are we

5308
04:30:55,040 --> 04:30:55,880
going to

5309
04:30:55,880 --> 04:30:58,399
spend a few million dollars not a few

5310
04:30:58,399 --> 04:31:00,040
million but a lot a lot of million of

5311
04:31:00,040 --> 04:31:02,720
dollars of of a new building is that do

5312
04:31:02,720 --> 04:31:04,159
you think do you anticipate that would

5313
04:31:04,159 --> 04:31:05,479
be part of your

5314
04:31:05,479 --> 04:31:09,720
plan um I would expect that there is

5315
04:31:09,720 --> 04:31:11,040
something that is going to come with

5316
04:31:11,040 --> 04:31:13,399
that because we don't have any room

5317
04:31:13,399 --> 04:31:17,279
really to grow in that area and with the

5318
04:31:17,279 --> 04:31:18,520
increase that we're getting in

5319
04:31:18,520 --> 04:31:21,000
Orangeville and the entire County we

5320
04:31:21,000 --> 04:31:23,479
would need at some point I would expect

5321
04:31:23,479 --> 04:31:25,239
within 10 years that you would see

5322
04:31:25,239 --> 04:31:27,319
probably another ambulance being needed

5323
04:31:27,319 --> 04:31:29,720
for the town of Orangeville and we just

5324
04:31:29,720 --> 04:31:31,359
really don't have any spot to put it

5325
04:31:31,359 --> 04:31:33,990
right

5326
04:31:34,000 --> 04:31:37,720
now may I ask a cautious question of you

5327
04:31:37,720 --> 04:31:41,439
U CAO I I'm I'm I ask it cautiously I'm

5328
04:31:41,439 --> 04:31:44,040
just curious ious was there any changes

5329
04:31:44,040 --> 04:31:49,520
made to that land size there or is that

5330
04:31:49,520 --> 04:31:51,040
status

5331
04:31:51,040 --> 04:31:54,000
quo and yes or no would be fine if

5332
04:31:54,000 --> 04:31:58,429
that's it not

5333
04:31:58,439 --> 04:32:02,319
appropriate uh through you Warden uh

5334
04:32:02,319 --> 04:32:15,710
nothing to date but there is potential

5335
04:32:15,720 --> 04:32:16,730
okay

5336
04:32:16,730 --> 04:32:18,000
[Music]

5337
04:32:18,000 --> 04:32:20,880
um summarizing parotic Services the

5338
04:32:20,880 --> 04:32:23,199
status quo operating is

5339
04:32:23,199 --> 04:32:26,279
2.92% when you add in capital it's 2.42

5340
04:32:26,279 --> 04:32:30,389
and with proposed additions it's

5341
04:32:30,399 --> 04:32:36,510
4.25% moving on to Public

5342
04:32:36,520 --> 04:32:39,880
Health uh debt payment we paid off the

5343
04:32:39,880 --> 04:32:42,720
loan that we had in 2024 four it's the

5344
04:32:42,720 --> 04:32:45,279
big increase in 2020 or decrease in

5345
04:32:45,279 --> 04:32:48,119
2025 Service delivery uh the annual

5346
04:32:48,119 --> 04:32:51,960
increase on public health contract is

5347
04:32:51,960 --> 04:32:55,439
2.9% in 2020 in 2013 the county entered

5348
04:32:55,439 --> 04:32:57,199
into a loan repayment agreement with

5349
04:32:57,199 --> 04:32:59,560
public health whereby a credit was

5350
04:32:59,560 --> 04:33:01,600
applied to our annual cost that offset

5351
04:33:01,600 --> 04:33:04,279
the additional loan costs in essence the

5352
04:33:04,279 --> 04:33:06,359
credit received equal the loan payments

5353
04:33:06,359 --> 04:33:08,400
and thus there was no impact on the tax

5354
04:33:08,400 --> 04:33:12,480
levy however in 2024 the budget the 2024

5355
04:33:12,480 --> 04:33:14,080
budget the credit and the loan costs

5356
04:33:14,080 --> 04:33:16,359
were not equal which has resulted in a

5357
04:33:16,359 --> 04:33:18,080
higher than expected increase to Public

5358
04:33:18,080 --> 04:33:20,480
Health transfers from reserves have been

5359
04:33:20,480 --> 04:33:22,279
included to lessen the impact over the

5360
04:33:22,279 --> 04:33:25,470
next few

5361
04:33:25,480 --> 04:33:28,439
years and we also do apply a small

5362
04:33:28,439 --> 04:33:31,240
amount of development charges to the

5363
04:33:31,240 --> 04:33:32,879
county share of the public health

5364
04:33:32,879 --> 04:33:35,359
debentures on their

5365
04:33:35,359 --> 04:33:37,840
buildings summarizing Public Health the

5366
04:33:37,840 --> 04:33:43,189
net increases 3.32%

5367
04:33:43,199 --> 04:33:50,150
and that's it for Health

5368
04:33:50,160 --> 04:33:54,680
Services I do sorry go ahead one more

5369
04:33:54,680 --> 04:33:57,279
slide this is just a summary of where we

5370
04:33:57,279 --> 04:34:00,680
are at where

5371
04:34:00,680 --> 04:34:04,039
we are sitting when we

5372
04:34:04,039 --> 04:34:10,189
started

5373
04:34:10,199 --> 04:34:13,561
um and if you go go to the next slide

5374
04:34:13,561 --> 04:34:15,799
this with all the things we talked about

5375
04:34:15,799 --> 04:34:23,470
tonight we're sitting at

5376
04:34:23,480 --> 04:34:27,080
5.16% so at this point Amy we have a

5377
04:34:27,080 --> 04:34:28,719
choice we

5378
04:34:28,719 --> 04:34:30,561
can

5379
04:34:30,561 --> 04:34:33,840
approve a budget tonight or we can

5380
04:34:33,840 --> 04:34:36,359
return and talk about those areas that

5381
04:34:36,359 --> 04:34:37,799
have been

5382
04:34:37,799 --> 04:34:41,240
identified uh for another time is that

5383
04:34:41,240 --> 04:34:45,070
our Choice

5384
04:34:45,080 --> 04:34:47,840
here

5385
04:34:47,840 --> 04:34:50,639
folks if I have some input into this

5386
04:34:50,639 --> 04:34:52,320
choice I certainly would not want to

5387
04:34:52,320 --> 04:34:54,719
finalize this tonight I think we do have

5388
04:34:54,719 --> 04:34:57,240
some issues we have to explore further

5389
04:34:57,240 --> 04:34:58,879
and

5390
04:34:58,879 --> 04:35:02,080
uh it it's enough for one day and we

5391
04:35:02,080 --> 04:35:04,680
need to have time to think about it

5392
04:35:04,680 --> 04:35:05,639
councelor

5393
04:35:05,639 --> 04:35:08,080
mlan uh yeah so I would I would agree

5394
04:35:08,080 --> 04:35:10,561
with that the only thing I would say is

5395
04:35:10,561 --> 04:35:12,279
5% is a lot

5396
04:35:12,279 --> 04:35:14,840
right um over the last year I think

5397
04:35:14,840 --> 04:35:18,400
inflation in 2024 averaged around 2% I

5398
04:35:18,400 --> 04:35:21,000
went back to our 2023 budget and there's

5399
04:35:21,000 --> 04:35:23,039
a statement in there that says that

5400
04:35:23,039 --> 04:35:25,680
historically our tax levies try to hold

5401
04:35:25,680 --> 04:35:27,480
true to inflation and now I know that

5402
04:35:27,480 --> 04:35:29,959
we've got a lot of big expenses coming

5403
04:35:29,959 --> 04:35:32,279
up but now that we've had this wonderful

5404
04:35:32,279 --> 04:35:33,639
presentation and I think we all have a

5405
04:35:33,639 --> 04:35:34,959
better understanding of what's in the

5406
04:35:34,959 --> 04:35:36,959
budget I would encourage members of

5407
04:35:36,959 --> 04:35:39,320
council to think hard about how we can

5408
04:35:39,320 --> 04:35:42,561
try to get that down um and maybe come

5409
04:35:42,561 --> 04:35:44,959
to the next meeting with some

5410
04:35:44,959 --> 04:35:48,039
ideas anyone

5411
04:35:48,039 --> 04:35:51,039
else yeah if I could ask another

5412
04:35:51,039 --> 04:35:54,719
question or sorry um so we we've

5413
04:35:54,719 --> 04:35:57,080
referenced the right stabilization fund

5414
04:35:57,080 --> 04:35:58,400
a number of times throughout this

5415
04:35:58,400 --> 04:36:01,000
presentation taking reserves from there

5416
04:36:01,000 --> 04:36:02,359
so I would certainly like to see what

5417
04:36:02,359 --> 04:36:04,160
that total is and I would like to know

5418
04:36:04,160 --> 04:36:07,400
what we expect to have from from our

5419
04:36:07,400 --> 04:36:10,920
2024 actuals to to budget to know

5420
04:36:10,920 --> 04:36:12,400
whether we have a Sur cluster deficit or

5421
04:36:12,400 --> 04:36:16,670
what situation we expect to be

5422
04:36:16,680 --> 04:36:22,160
in did you Council thank you Wen

5423
04:36:22,160 --> 04:36:24,799
um again trying to be positive I love

5424
04:36:24,799 --> 04:36:28,039
Scott Scott's my one of my favorite

5425
04:36:28,039 --> 04:36:30,199
people

5426
04:36:30,199 --> 04:36:33,160
and um G given the economic climate I

5427
04:36:33,160 --> 04:36:35,439
think we we owe it to ourselves to look

5428
04:36:35,439 --> 04:36:38,760
at a couple of things uh the ones we

5429
04:36:38,760 --> 04:36:40,480
mentioned sure but maybe also something

5430
04:36:40,480 --> 04:36:41,879
like the welcome signs for for a couple

5431
04:36:41,879 --> 04:36:43,680
of reasons I mean that's a million

5432
04:36:43,680 --> 04:36:47,480
dollar over 5 years $200,000 a year but

5433
04:36:47,480 --> 04:36:49,600
if you really look at it that is a

5434
04:36:49,600 --> 04:36:51,400
program that was designed and

5435
04:36:51,400 --> 04:36:55,480
implemented preco we're now way past Co

5436
04:36:55,480 --> 04:36:58,520
so maybe maybe it's not time to continue

5437
04:36:58,520 --> 04:37:00,359
rolling that out maybe it's time to

5438
04:37:00,359 --> 04:37:02,279
relook at it and see if we want to take

5439
04:37:02,279 --> 04:37:03,920
a different direction or if we want to

5440
04:37:03,920 --> 04:37:06,320
continue with it or even push it back a

5441
04:37:06,320 --> 04:37:08,840
year or modify it somehow but I mean

5442
04:37:08,840 --> 04:37:10,879
that could certainly go a long way to

5443
04:37:10,879 --> 04:37:13,199
lowering a bit of the budget as well so

5444
04:37:13,199 --> 04:37:15,000
maybe that's just something we have a

5445
04:37:15,000 --> 04:37:18,279
further discussion about uh later

5446
04:37:18,279 --> 04:37:20,520
on lby

5447
04:37:20,520 --> 04:37:25,520
Scott anyone and he didn't say but he

5448
04:37:25,520 --> 04:37:28,320
didn't anyone

5449
04:37:28,320 --> 04:37:32,080
else councilor post uh this is to Amy

5450
04:37:32,080 --> 04:37:33,600
just briefly on the last slide you've

5451
04:37:33,600 --> 04:37:35,320
said the things that we've discussed are

5452
04:37:35,320 --> 04:37:37,320
now at 5.16 is that taking into

5453
04:37:37,320 --> 04:37:38,760
consideration all of the items that we

5454
04:37:38,760 --> 04:37:39,840
added to the

5455
04:37:39,840 --> 04:37:43,119
list or no

5456
04:37:43,119 --> 04:37:45,561
no so what that includes there's a

5457
04:37:45,561 --> 04:37:48,840
$40,000 change for the h hazard waste

5458
04:37:48,840 --> 04:37:53,119
contract there's $115,000 rent Revenue

5459
04:37:53,119 --> 04:37:55,959
there's $100,000 for the bike lanes and

5460
04:37:55,959 --> 04:37:58,600
then there's 135 for the um housing

5461
04:37:58,600 --> 04:38:00,160
strategy Project

5462
04:38:00,160 --> 04:38:03,520
Lead that's so it is that gets us to

5463
04:38:03,520 --> 04:38:05,480
5.16 based on the things that we added

5464
04:38:05,480 --> 04:38:07,199
to the list tonight yeah and the other

5465
04:38:07,199 --> 04:38:09,039
thing I have on the list sorry is the

5466
04:38:09,039 --> 04:38:10,879
investor attraction attraction but I

5467
04:38:10,879 --> 04:38:23,670
don't have it am

5468
04:38:23,680 --> 04:38:25,279
councelor

5469
04:38:25,279 --> 04:38:29,039
ni as important as the housing strategy

5470
04:38:29,039 --> 04:38:30,480
program may

5471
04:38:30,480 --> 04:38:33,439
be I I still wonder why and I know we

5472
04:38:33,439 --> 04:38:34,920
took some out of the

5473
04:38:34,920 --> 04:38:38,279
$500,000 for the um consultant or

5474
04:38:38,279 --> 04:38:39,760
whatever it

5475
04:38:39,760 --> 04:38:42,680
was is it necessary NE to put

5476
04:38:42,680 --> 04:38:45,439
$500,000 into reserves for that program

5477
04:38:45,439 --> 04:38:47,480
this year yes you're going to tell me

5478
04:38:47,480 --> 04:38:48,879
we're just building up problems for the

5479
04:38:48,879 --> 04:38:50,920
future but

5480
04:38:50,920 --> 04:38:53,561
but okay I just put it out there if

5481
04:38:53,561 --> 04:39:02,789
that's really

5482
04:39:02,799 --> 04:39:05,561
necessary John

5483
04:39:05,561 --> 04:39:10,160
tayor is there a math on what that um

5484
04:39:10,160 --> 04:39:12,480
budget means to each household cuz I

5485
04:39:12,480 --> 04:39:14,119
always think that's helpful too right

5486
04:39:14,119 --> 04:39:16,279
like is this is that

5487
04:39:16,279 --> 04:39:19,039
$32 or what whatever it is I don't know

5488
04:39:19,039 --> 04:39:20,680
I don't know but what what is that as an

5489
04:39:20,680 --> 04:39:22,400
increase i' be curious to understand

5490
04:39:22,400 --> 04:39:24,279
what that is and wouldn't be flippant

5491
04:39:24,279 --> 04:39:27,039
with residents money but it it is

5492
04:39:27,039 --> 04:39:28,920
helpful to

5493
04:39:28,920 --> 04:39:32,480
understand you have that uh through you

5494
04:39:32,480 --> 04:39:37,638
Warden the increase per ,000 $100,000 of

5495
04:39:37,638 --> 04:39:48,270
assessment is $20.63

5496
04:39:48,280 --> 04:39:53,760
yeah okay Council kman first um nearing

5497
04:39:53,760 --> 04:39:56,600
the the fifth uh fifth hour that we've

5498
04:39:56,600 --> 04:39:58,320
been uh doing this I don't know that

5499
04:39:58,320 --> 04:39:59,958
we're doing our best thinking at this

5500
04:39:59,958 --> 04:40:01,320
point in the in the course of the

5501
04:40:01,320 --> 04:40:05,240
evening i' I'd uh support going away uh

5502
04:40:05,240 --> 04:40:09,000
considering what we what we've done um

5503
04:40:09,000 --> 04:40:11,120
mindful that if we're adding anything to

5504
04:40:11,120 --> 04:40:14,120
the budget it should be within the the

5505
04:40:14,120 --> 04:40:16,600
amount uh that is currently recommended

5506
04:40:16,600 --> 04:40:18,840
and uh looking at areas where we can

5507
04:40:18,840 --> 04:40:21,760
economized by uh deferring or taking

5508
04:40:21,760 --> 04:40:23,440
things out but I don't think we're going

5509
04:40:23,440 --> 04:40:27,270
to get to a decision

5510
04:40:27,280 --> 04:40:30,920
tonight just on the so that was $20 per

5511
04:40:30,920 --> 04:40:33,760
100,000 of impac assessed value right

5512
04:40:33,760 --> 04:40:35,760
and since impac hasn't we're going on

5513
04:40:35,760 --> 04:40:39,200
nine years to the to the point like the

5514
04:40:39,200 --> 04:40:42,440
in 2016

5515
04:40:42,440 --> 04:40:44,480
uh I don't know how many houses were a

5516
04:40:44,480 --> 04:40:46,520
million dollars for example but it's

5517
04:40:46,520 --> 04:40:48,798
it's yeah it's it's a big difference

5518
04:40:48,798 --> 04:40:51,600
from what your your house is worth now

5519
04:40:51,600 --> 04:40:54,920
so um that just sort of you know I guess

5520
04:40:54,920 --> 04:40:56,280
sort of

5521
04:40:56,280 --> 04:40:59,280
uh lessens the the the the impact

5522
04:40:59,280 --> 04:41:01,480
because you're you're working on 2016

5523
04:41:01,480 --> 04:41:05,948
assess values so

5524
04:41:05,958 --> 04:41:09,040
thanks um through you Warden just to um

5525
04:41:09,040 --> 04:41:12,240
James point about um

5526
04:41:12,240 --> 04:41:14,200
being around

5527
04:41:14,200 --> 04:41:16,718
CPI if you look at the status quo budget

5528
04:41:16,718 --> 04:41:19,878
it's 3.2% which is close to CPI anything

5529
04:41:19,878 --> 04:41:21,680
else is new and it's always going to be

5530
04:41:21,680 --> 04:41:22,560
over

5531
04:41:22,560 --> 04:41:25,120
CPI thank

5532
04:41:25,120 --> 04:41:28,400
you councelor Mills thank you won I I

5533
04:41:28,400 --> 04:41:29,878
agree with several of the other comments

5534
04:41:29,878 --> 04:41:32,520
that you know a final decision on this

5535
04:41:32,520 --> 04:41:34,320
is probably best reserved for another

5536
04:41:34,320 --> 04:41:36,718
night but um would the intention be to

5537
04:41:36,718 --> 04:41:39,240
call a special meeting like I I I don't

5538
04:41:39,240 --> 04:41:41,680
think we should probably wait until our

5539
04:41:41,680 --> 04:41:43,920
next regularly scheduled council meeting

5540
04:41:43,920 --> 04:41:46,000
to get this wrapped up we had the 30th

5541
04:41:46,000 --> 04:41:47,718
didn't we was is it already scheduled

5542
04:41:47,718 --> 04:41:49,520
for the 30th okay yeah

5543
04:41:49,520 --> 04:41:51,680
perfect yeah so there is a special

5544
04:41:51,680 --> 04:41:56,788
meeting already scheduled for January

5545
04:41:56,798 --> 04:42:02,000
30th so I think have to go well and the

5546
04:42:02,000 --> 04:42:05,440
thing is you've seen the big uh

5547
04:42:05,440 --> 04:42:07,480
presentation what we should be talking

5548
04:42:07,480 --> 04:42:10,160
about at that point are some of the

5549
04:42:10,160 --> 04:42:11,680
economies and

5550
04:42:11,680 --> 04:42:13,638
some of the specifics as opposed to the

5551
04:42:13,638 --> 04:42:15,560
whole thing

5552
04:42:15,560 --> 04:42:19,280
right so is that a 7:00 meeting or is

5553
04:42:19,280 --> 04:42:21,200
that a

5554
04:42:21,200 --> 04:42:25,480
three it's a seven it's a six okay it's

5555
04:42:25,480 --> 04:42:29,510
hard to keep

5556
04:42:29,520 --> 04:42:34,400
track okay um so thank you Amy um it

5557
04:42:34,400 --> 04:42:36,200
appears that we're not ready to make any

5558
04:42:36,200 --> 04:42:38,560
kind of a motion at this point did

5559
04:42:38,560 --> 04:42:54,310
somebody else

5560
04:42:54,320 --> 04:42:57,600
no um well I wasn't going to send you

5561
04:42:57,600 --> 04:42:59,920
home home it was just we have no uh

5562
04:42:59,920 --> 04:43:02,200
motion on the budget tonight but I do

5563
04:43:02,200 --> 04:43:05,958
want if you have some ideas or questions

5564
04:43:05,958 --> 04:43:08,958
for staff please address them to Amy

5565
04:43:08,958 --> 04:43:11,360
ahead of the meeting so that she can do

5566
04:43:11,360 --> 04:43:14,280
some thinking uh on on how this might or

5567
04:43:14,280 --> 04:43:16,840
she'll direct it to whoever the question

5568
04:43:16,840 --> 04:43:20,560
has to go to councelor little just as a

5569
04:43:20,560 --> 04:43:23,280
summary for us can we get a synopsis a

5570
04:43:23,280 --> 04:43:25,560
written synopsis of what those um list

5571
04:43:25,560 --> 04:43:28,600
was that we created today just so that

5572
04:43:28,600 --> 04:43:30,920
you know we're clear all clear on the

5573
04:43:30,920 --> 04:43:34,520
same page thanks okay thank

5574
04:43:34,520 --> 04:43:38,200
you all right uh let's keep moving then

5575
04:43:38,200 --> 04:43:40,600
um number 10 there's no strategic Plan

5576
04:43:40,600 --> 04:43:43,280
update this month we have some

5577
04:43:43,280 --> 04:43:45,280
correspondents um correspondents receiv

5578
04:43:45,280 --> 04:43:47,760
received from the municipality of mccoa

5579
04:43:47,760 --> 04:43:49,798
to request duffing contribute to the

5580
04:43:49,798 --> 04:43:53,480
funding the Simco duffrin

5581
04:43:53,480 --> 04:44:01,390
Moka Crime Stoppers what are councilor's

5582
04:44:01,400 --> 04:44:04,718
wishes councelor post thank you won

5583
04:44:04,718 --> 04:44:07,040
Herer um we actually just in Orangeville

5584
04:44:07,040 --> 04:44:09,120
did the proclamation of crimes Stoppers

5585
04:44:09,120 --> 04:44:11,400
month yesterday or the day before um um

5586
04:44:11,400 --> 04:44:14,120
and I was speaking to the folks who run

5587
04:44:14,120 --> 04:44:15,718
our division of crimes Stoppers and they

5588
04:44:15,718 --> 04:44:17,400
were talking to me about the financial

5589
04:44:17,400 --> 04:44:19,440
issues that they're having um what I

5590
04:44:19,440 --> 04:44:20,560
requested and I sent them the

5591
04:44:20,560 --> 04:44:22,360
information today is I requested that

5592
04:44:22,360 --> 04:44:24,400
they come and delegate to County Council

5593
04:44:24,400 --> 04:44:26,440
to talk to all of us about what their

5594
04:44:26,440 --> 04:44:28,000
needs are how it's being funded

5595
04:44:28,000 --> 04:44:30,080
currently where their gaps are and what

5596
04:44:30,080 --> 04:44:32,160
the future looks like so I did provide

5597
04:44:32,160 --> 04:44:34,680
them with our Clerk's emails and ask

5598
04:44:34,680 --> 04:44:36,360
them to reach out to her to ask to

5599
04:44:36,360 --> 04:44:38,798
delegate at a future meeting perfect

5600
04:44:38,798 --> 04:44:43,070
good okay thank you

5601
04:44:43,080 --> 04:44:46,080
they want the money for 2025 so unless

5602
04:44:46,080 --> 04:44:47,240
we get this

5603
04:44:47,240 --> 04:44:49,480
delegation and either say yes or no to

5604
04:44:49,480 --> 04:44:54,840
some money how do we get it in the 2025

5605
04:44:54,840 --> 04:44:56,440
budget

5606
04:44:56,440 --> 04:45:00,280
Lisa um good question um I mean we could

5607
04:45:00,280 --> 04:45:02,040
set aside money at the budget time if

5608
04:45:02,040 --> 04:45:05,638
that's the will of of council the the

5609
04:45:05,638 --> 04:45:07,280
correspondence that we got was from one

5610
04:45:07,280 --> 04:45:09,480
municipality that participates in it not

5611
04:45:09,480 --> 04:45:11,480
from Crim Stoppers directly so I think

5612
04:45:11,480 --> 04:45:13,120
we'd be better served to hear directly

5613
04:45:13,120 --> 04:45:14,600
from crimes Stoppers of their need

5614
04:45:14,600 --> 04:45:16,878
rather than just from one municipality

5615
04:45:16,878 --> 04:45:18,958
um the Simco deff and Moka Crime

5616
04:45:18,958 --> 04:45:21,798
Stoppers do get funding from all three

5617
04:45:21,798 --> 04:45:24,760
different municipalities and Moka has

5618
04:45:24,760 --> 04:45:26,040
has stated to them that they were going

5619
04:45:26,040 --> 04:45:28,160
to encourage us to also Pony up and give

5620
04:45:28,160 --> 04:45:30,600
some money but I I think it I think it

5621
04:45:30,600 --> 04:45:32,600
would be premature of us to make a

5622
04:45:32,600 --> 04:45:34,040
decision on what that dollar amount may

5623
04:45:34,040 --> 04:45:35,718
look like what they did tell me from

5624
04:45:35,718 --> 04:45:38,440
crimes Stoppers this week was um they

5625
04:45:38,440 --> 04:45:40,680
have put a a shut their door date of

5626
04:45:40,680 --> 04:45:43,120
August August 1st on the table um

5627
04:45:43,120 --> 04:45:44,600
because they have to have a plan they

5628
04:45:44,600 --> 04:45:46,040
have they don't want to just last second

5629
04:45:46,040 --> 04:45:47,000
and say I don't have any money we're

5630
04:45:47,000 --> 04:45:48,760
going to have to close the door so they

5631
04:45:48,760 --> 04:45:51,160
have um said that they're in danger

5632
04:45:51,160 --> 04:45:52,760
right now based on the lack of funding

5633
04:45:52,760 --> 04:45:55,440
that they do have so it's up to council

5634
04:45:55,440 --> 04:45:57,000
if they want to allocate some money now

5635
04:45:57,000 --> 04:45:59,080
but I have asked them to come to to

5636
04:45:59,080 --> 04:46:02,798
County Council to speak to us I think

5637
04:46:02,798 --> 04:46:05,638
Council Garretts or Council keman I was

5638
04:46:05,638 --> 04:46:07,600
going to say wouldn't it be a community

5639
04:46:07,600 --> 04:46:09,878
Grant like many other community grants I

5640
04:46:09,878 --> 04:46:11,798
mean we have the we just increase that

5641
04:46:11,798 --> 04:46:15,360
budget tonight uh in theory

5642
04:46:15,360 --> 04:46:17,400
anyway I did also let them know about

5643
04:46:17,400 --> 04:46:19,040
the community grants program both at the

5644
04:46:19,040 --> 04:46:20,240
county of Defan and at the town of

5645
04:46:20,240 --> 04:46:22,360
Orangeville and advise them to keep an

5646
04:46:22,360 --> 04:46:23,760
eye on both the websites for the

5647
04:46:23,760 --> 04:46:25,560
advertisement of when those applications

5648
04:46:25,560 --> 04:46:27,320
will open but in the mean time I thought

5649
04:46:27,320 --> 04:46:28,558
it would be good for them to also come

5650
04:46:28,558 --> 04:46:29,958
to council and just explain what their

5651
04:46:29,958 --> 04:46:33,000
situation is as well as to explain to

5652
04:46:33,000 --> 04:46:35,000
councel what the work that they do in

5653
04:46:35,000 --> 04:46:36,600
our municipality looks like and what

5654
04:46:36,600 --> 04:46:38,400
their results have been so I think

5655
04:46:38,400 --> 04:46:39,878
regardless of the funding piece I think

5656
04:46:39,878 --> 04:46:43,110
it's important that they come

5657
04:46:43,120 --> 04:46:45,718
okay thank you I think we'll just uh

5658
04:46:45,718 --> 04:46:48,320
wait then and the clerk will uh get us

5659
04:46:48,320 --> 04:46:51,320
get them on the agenda um correspondence

5660
04:46:51,320 --> 04:46:53,080
has been received from Duffer M

5661
04:46:53,080 --> 04:46:54,878
municipalities regarding the

5662
04:46:54,878 --> 04:46:57,120
multi-jurisdictional fire protection and

5663
04:46:57,120 --> 04:46:59,680
prevention plan could I please have a

5664
04:46:59,680 --> 04:47:02,600
mover and a seconder to receive the

5665
04:47:02,600 --> 04:47:06,480
correspondence for information purposes

5666
04:47:06,480 --> 04:47:09,718
moved by James seconded by Wade all

5667
04:47:09,718 --> 04:47:13,350
those in favor

5668
04:47:13,360 --> 04:47:16,240
carried okay Township of amaranth the

5669
04:47:16,240 --> 04:47:18,120
correspondence has been received from

5670
04:47:18,120 --> 04:47:20,600
the township of amanth to support the

5671
04:47:20,600 --> 04:47:22,480
township of memmer's resolution to

5672
04:47:22,480 --> 04:47:25,400
create a North duffan fire service area

5673
04:47:25,400 --> 04:47:27,520
could I have a mover and a seconder to

5674
04:47:27,520 --> 04:47:29,160
receive the correspondence for

5675
04:47:29,160 --> 04:47:30,480
information

5676
04:47:30,480 --> 04:47:33,760
purposes moved by guard house second and

5677
04:47:33,760 --> 04:47:36,080
by Garretts all those in

5678
04:47:36,080 --> 04:47:40,080
favor carried notices of motion

5679
04:47:40,080 --> 04:47:41,920
councelor Garrett has submitted a notice

5680
04:47:41,920 --> 04:47:44,680
of motion it has been slightly amended

5681
04:47:44,680 --> 04:47:47,280
from the version published in the agenda

5682
04:47:47,280 --> 04:47:49,360
and it will be placed on the February

5683
04:47:49,360 --> 04:47:53,200
Council agenda for discussion it reads

5684
04:47:53,200 --> 04:47:56,080
as follows um whereas the county of

5685
04:47:56,080 --> 04:47:59,558
duffo received Ascent on May 31st

5686
04:47:59,558 --> 04:48:02,240
1994 and whereas it would represent good

5687
04:48:02,240 --> 04:48:03,760
governance for the county of duffan

5688
04:48:03,760 --> 04:48:06,718
council to review the 30-year-old act to

5689
04:48:06,718 --> 04:48:08,480
ensure that it meets the current

5690
04:48:08,480 --> 04:48:10,000
conditions and priorities of the county

5691
04:48:10,000 --> 04:48:12,400
of duffan therefore be it resolved that

5692
04:48:12,400 --> 04:48:14,080
County Council discuss the county of

5693
04:48:14,080 --> 04:48:16,160
duffen act at the March County council

5694
04:48:16,160 --> 04:48:18,480
meeting to determine which items are no

5695
04:48:18,480 --> 04:48:22,000
longer revent or require

5696
04:48:22,000 --> 04:48:26,280
updating so that's the notice of motion

5697
04:48:26,280 --> 04:48:28,920
coming uh is there a closed session I

5698
04:48:28,920 --> 04:48:32,718
don't think so we've had enough okay

5699
04:48:32,718 --> 04:48:34,958
bylaws number 15 so we have a

5700
04:48:34,958 --> 04:48:37,360
recommendation that bylaw

5701
04:48:37,360 --> 04:48:42,030
20251 through 205

5702
04:48:42,040 --> 04:48:44,760
20053 inclusive be read a first second

5703
04:48:44,760 --> 04:48:46,320
and third time and

5704
04:48:46,320 --> 04:48:49,920
enacted need a mover and a second uh

5705
04:48:49,920 --> 04:48:52,920
moved by Nicks and seconded by kelman

5706
04:48:52,920 --> 04:48:54,440
all those in

5707
04:48:54,440 --> 04:48:56,280
favor

5708
04:48:56,280 --> 04:48:59,920
carried um and at the special uh council

5709
04:48:59,920 --> 04:49:02,360
meeting on August 22nd Council received

5710
04:49:02,360 --> 04:49:04,920
a report regarding the model franchise

5711
04:49:04,920 --> 04:49:06,878
agreement with Enbridge Gas at that

5712
04:49:06,878 --> 04:49:08,760
meeting Council had a first and second

5713
04:49:08,760 --> 04:49:12,798
reading of bylaw 20 2432 to authorize

5714
04:49:12,798 --> 04:49:15,440
execution of the agreement since then

5715
04:49:15,440 --> 04:49:17,558
the Ontario energy board has approved

5716
04:49:17,558 --> 04:49:20,360
the agreement between duffen County and

5717
04:49:20,360 --> 04:49:23,080
Enbridge so we may now have a third and

5718
04:49:23,080 --> 04:49:26,000
final reading of the bylaw may I have a

5719
04:49:26,000 --> 04:49:30,040
motion for bylaw 2024 32 to be read a

5720
04:49:30,040 --> 04:49:33,440
third time and enacted moved by post

5721
04:49:33,440 --> 04:49:36,280
seconded by Garretts all those in

5722
04:49:36,280 --> 04:49:39,390
favor

5723
04:49:39,400 --> 04:49:42,480
carried okay

5724
04:49:42,480 --> 04:49:46,160
do any members of council have any other

5725
04:49:46,160 --> 04:49:48,638
business councilor

5726
04:49:48,638 --> 04:49:51,440
white uh thanks Warden just wondering if

5727
04:49:51,440 --> 04:49:53,920
we can get an update on what delegations

5728
04:49:53,920 --> 04:49:55,680
we have and whatnot and what we're

5729
04:49:55,680 --> 04:49:59,878
talking about at Roma if we have any

5730
04:49:59,878 --> 04:50:02,558
through through you Warden uh thanks for

5731
04:50:02,558 --> 04:50:04,280
the question uh councelor White yes we

5732
04:50:04,280 --> 04:50:06,360
got two U one through Ministry of the

5733
04:50:06,360 --> 04:50:09,400
attorney general which is on

5734
04:50:09,400 --> 04:50:12,558
Tuesday at at 10:45

5735
04:50:12,558 --> 04:50:15,760
10:45 and another one with the Ministry

5736
04:50:15,760 --> 04:50:18,040
of Transportation which is on Monday and

5737
04:50:18,040 --> 04:50:19,878
I will get back to you with the time so

5738
04:50:19,878 --> 04:50:21,798
actually before counselors who are going

5739
04:50:21,798 --> 04:50:23,760
to Roma if you before you leave if you

5740
04:50:23,760 --> 04:50:25,558
could maybe just touch base with me and

5741
04:50:25,558 --> 04:50:26,840
figure out who's going to which

5742
04:50:26,840 --> 04:50:28,840
delegation and then we can firm up all

5743
04:50:28,840 --> 04:50:31,440
those details uh and just further to to

5744
04:50:31,440 --> 04:50:33,480
answer your question uh the ministry

5745
04:50:33,480 --> 04:50:38,040
attorney general delegation is on um the

5746
04:50:38,040 --> 04:50:41,840
stagnation of uh fees related to Traffic

5747
04:50:41,840 --> 04:50:43,840
infractions or under the highway traffic

5748
04:50:43,840 --> 04:50:47,760
act and uh the non-collection of a

5749
04:50:47,760 --> 04:50:50,600
number of Poa fines over the last many

5750
04:50:50,600 --> 04:50:52,638
years did you want to add anything and

5751
04:50:52,638 --> 04:50:54,680
I'm going to add something about uh

5752
04:50:54,680 --> 04:50:57,558
illegal land

5753
04:50:57,558 --> 04:50:59,958
use sorry I'm going to add something

5754
04:50:59,958 --> 04:51:02,440
about illegal land use and our

5755
04:51:02,440 --> 04:51:05,958
ineffective process of going to POA

5756
04:51:05,958 --> 04:51:08,558
Court getting a crummy fine and then

5757
04:51:08,558 --> 04:51:10,840
having to go to Superior Court to get

5758
04:51:10,840 --> 04:51:13,280
compliance so I'm going to I'm going to

5759
04:51:13,280 --> 04:51:15,600
add that in

5760
04:51:15,600 --> 04:51:18,718
there and the Ministry of Transportation

5761
04:51:18,718 --> 04:51:21,718
delegation is on uh requesting an update

5762
04:51:21,718 --> 04:51:24,280
for the uh study being done on Highway

5763
04:51:24,280 --> 04:51:27,080
10 and just general traffic road safety

5764
04:51:27,080 --> 04:51:29,400
issues with respect to U both provincial

5765
04:51:29,400 --> 04:51:31,480
highways and and road safety generally

5766
04:51:31,480 --> 04:51:34,240
especially on Rural roads uh referencing

5767
04:51:34,240 --> 04:51:37,878
the work that was done by uh the the um

5768
04:51:37,878 --> 04:51:41,200
good roads Association

5769
04:51:41,200 --> 04:51:43,480
uh thanks for that uh mangon Township

5770
04:51:43,480 --> 04:51:45,400
has a delegation with MTO as well on

5771
04:51:45,400 --> 04:51:48,840
road safety Highway 10 uh Ken Road 17

5772
04:51:48,840 --> 04:51:51,280
and some other things so perhaps we

5773
04:51:51,280 --> 04:51:53,718
could uh work together just to make sure

5774
04:51:53,718 --> 04:51:55,840
we're not doing too much duplication on

5775
04:51:55,840 --> 04:51:59,270
those

5776
04:51:59,280 --> 04:52:01,480
thanks councelor Mills I think you've

5777
04:52:01,480 --> 04:52:04,798
got a delegation as well yes uh Warden

5778
04:52:04,798 --> 04:52:07,638
as I mentioned you on on Monday um we've

5779
04:52:07,638 --> 04:52:09,558
received a delegation with MTO as well

5780
04:52:09,558 --> 04:52:12,558
it's on Monday I I think at 2 or 2:30 um

5781
04:52:12,558 --> 04:52:15,000
I'm hoping the warden if her schedule

5782
04:52:15,000 --> 04:52:18,920
permits U amongst the multitude of other

5783
04:52:18,920 --> 04:52:20,878
delegations you'll have that that week

5784
04:52:20,878 --> 04:52:23,320
that you'll be able to join us my time

5785
04:52:23,320 --> 04:52:25,680
is your

5786
04:52:25,680 --> 04:52:28,160
time did you want to hear everybody we

5787
04:52:28,160 --> 04:52:30,760
have four you've got so we've got uh

5788
04:52:30,760 --> 04:52:33,798
attorney general for councelor because

5789
04:52:33,798 --> 04:52:35,680
that's the speed enforcement in rural

5790
04:52:35,680 --> 04:52:37,400
areas I think is what we're discussing

5791
04:52:37,400 --> 04:52:40,840
there Municipal Affairs and Housing uh

5792
04:52:40,840 --> 04:52:43,360
uh can't even remember Ministry of

5793
04:52:43,360 --> 04:52:46,120
infrastructure it's to advocate for

5794
04:52:46,120 --> 04:52:49,840
different uh designs and standards for

5795
04:52:49,840 --> 04:52:52,400
structures on low volume roads and

5796
04:52:52,400 --> 04:52:56,040
what's our what's our other one

5797
04:52:56,040 --> 04:52:58,920
uh no that's an

5798
04:52:58,920 --> 04:53:01,120
infrastructure oh Minister of Finance

5799
04:53:01,120 --> 04:53:03,480
who uh it's the Parliamentary assistant

5800
04:53:03,480 --> 04:53:09,360
to talk about uh um to put it bluntly uh

5801
04:53:09,360 --> 04:53:11,958
uh treaty as well as they treat the city

5802
04:53:11,958 --> 04:53:15,400
of Toronto and uh and perhaps allowing

5803
04:53:15,400 --> 04:53:20,440
for more uh uh tools to collect taxes so

5804
04:53:20,440 --> 04:53:22,200
thanks thank

5805
04:53:22,200 --> 04:53:26,718
you anybody else anything councilor po

5806
04:53:26,718 --> 04:53:28,000
if you're wanting delegations the town

5807
04:53:28,000 --> 04:53:29,480
of Orangeville just has one delegation

5808
04:53:29,480 --> 04:53:31,360
it's with the Ministry of Finance to

5809
04:53:31,360 --> 04:53:32,760
talk about the Ontario Municipal

5810
04:53:32,760 --> 04:53:34,160
partnership fund which we are the only

5811
04:53:34,160 --> 04:53:36,080
municipality in deff County who does not

5812
04:53:36,080 --> 04:53:38,400
receive so we're we're reaching out to

5813
04:53:38,400 --> 04:53:40,000
them about that the county does they

5814
04:53:40,000 --> 04:53:41,040
don't

5815
04:53:41,040 --> 04:53:42,080
that's right the county as a whole

5816
04:53:42,080 --> 04:53:44,360
doesn't either and I I'll send you some

5817
04:53:44,360 --> 04:53:45,920
data that I've collected about it but

5818
04:53:45,920 --> 04:53:48,878
thank you okay thank

5819
04:53:48,878 --> 04:53:52,878
you um all right we are now going to

5820
04:53:52,878 --> 04:53:56,520
move into um the confirmatory bylaw may

5821
04:53:56,520 --> 04:53:59,638
have a motion for the confirming bylaw

5822
04:53:59,638 --> 04:54:02,718
20254 to be ra read a first second and

5823
04:54:02,718 --> 04:54:06,520
third time moved by Mill seconded by

5824
04:54:06,520 --> 04:54:08,798
Hall all those in

5825
04:54:08,798 --> 04:54:11,400
favor carried

5826
04:54:11,400 --> 04:54:13,878
the next committee meetings will be held

5827
04:54:13,878 --> 04:54:20,110
Thursday January 3rd in the duff

5828
04:54:20,120 --> 04:54:23,480
room Thursday oh January

5829
04:54:23,480 --> 04:54:26,200
23rd I think you said the third oh did I

5830
04:54:26,200 --> 04:54:29,520
sorry 23rd uh infrastructure and

5831
04:54:29,520 --> 04:54:31,718
environmental services at 9 General

5832
04:54:31,718 --> 04:54:34,080
government services 11 Community

5833
04:54:34,080 --> 04:54:37,240
Development tourism one and Health and

5834
04:54:37,240 --> 04:54:38,840
Human Services

5835
04:54:38,840 --> 04:54:42,080
three um then the next meeting will be

5836
04:54:42,080 --> 04:54:45,080
that January 30th just get that in your

5837
04:54:45,080 --> 04:54:47,680
calendar so you don't forget our next

5838
04:54:47,680 --> 04:54:50,878
council meeting will be February

5839
04:54:50,878 --> 04:54:55,798
13th at um same time same

5840
04:54:55,798 --> 04:55:00,548
place okay we have a motion to

5841
04:55:00,558 --> 04:55:04,718
adjourn oh guy okay we're carrying on a

5842
04:55:04,718 --> 04:55:08,070
well I don't know we have

5843
04:55:08,080 --> 04:55:10,958
new I'm good with you doing it

5844
04:55:10,958 --> 04:55:12,600
move by

5845
04:55:12,600 --> 04:55:16,120
Guy second by

5846
04:55:16,120 --> 04:55:18,958
Garrett there you go thanks everyone

5847
04:55:18,958 --> 04:55:22,000
that was a long haul but uh appreciate

5848
04:55:22,000 --> 04:55:24,868
your

5849
04:55:24,878 --> 04:55:28,350
attention

5850
04:55:28,360 --> 04:55:32,040
any that's all right