[0:00] everyone my apologies I'm going to have
[0:02] to learn to leave a little earlier to
[0:05] come down from
[0:06] shelburn um we'll now ask staff to re
[0:10] begin recording and I guess they have
[0:13] this meeting is being live streamed and
[0:15] publicly broadcast the recording of this
[0:18] meeting will also be available on our
[0:20] website in the
[0:22] future uh we'll Now call the meeting to
[0:25] order and just a reminder of the
[0:28] training that we had on Monday night uh
[0:32] be kind tonight especially to our
[0:37] treasure I'll Now read the uh land
[0:40] acknowledgement statement we'll begin
[0:42] the meeting by sharing the land
[0:43] acknowledgement statement respectfully
[0:45] acknowledging that duffrin County
[0:47] resides within the traditional territory
[0:50] and ancestoral lands of the Tiani at
[0:53] Randon anani and the anes naavis people
[0:57] we also acknowledge that various
[0:59] municipali ities within the county of
[1:01] duffrin reside within the treaty lands
[1:03] named under the halderman deed of 1784
[1:07] and two of the Williams treaties of 1818
[1:10] treaty 18 the NWA Saga purchase and
[1:13] treaty 19 the agis
[1:16] treaty these traditional territories
[1:19] upon which we live and learn are steeped
[1:22] in Rich indigenous history and
[1:23] traditions it is with this statement
[1:26] that we declare to honor and respect the
[1:29] past and Pres present connection of
[1:31] indigenous peoples with this land its
[1:34] waterways and
[1:36] resources I'll now ask the uh clerk to
[1:40] do a roll call please thank you
[1:43] councelor kran pres councelor guardos
[1:46] present councelor Garretts present
[1:48] councelor Hall present councelor Hawkins
[1:53] present councelor little present
[1:56] councelor mlan present councelor Mills
[1:59] Pres
[2:00] councelor Nicks present councelor post
[2:04] present councelor wrench I'm here
[2:08] councelor Solomon present councelor
[2:11] Taylor present councelor white present
[2:14] and Warden Herer present thank
[2:18] you and we'll move on to the approval of
[2:20] the agenda may I have a motion to
[2:22] approve the agenda and the
[2:25] addendum uh moved by Mills seconded by
[2:30] oh I don't know Garretts they all went
[2:32] up um all those in
[2:34] favor
[2:36] carried
[2:38] uh we'll now move on to
[2:43] uh at this point members of council are
[2:46] required to State any pecuniary interest
[2:50] uh please State the interest and the
[2:51] general nature thereof declarations must
[2:54] be verbal and in writing and can be
[2:57] emailed to the clerk
[3:03] yes sir um anything regarding staff
[3:06] salaries I declare a conflict due to a
[3:09] family member who works at the county
[3:11] okay thank
[3:13] you approval of the minutes um approval
[3:17] of the minutes of the election of warden
[3:19] meeting and regular meeting of Council
[3:22] on December 12th
[3:25] 2024 uh please note that the election of
[3:28] the warden minutes have been amended to
[3:31] properly reflect that councelor Nicks as
[3:34] well as councelor Solomon voted for
[3:36] councelor little to be the chair of the
[3:39] Community Development and Tourism
[3:42] Committee may I have a motion to adopt
[3:44] the minutes from the election of the
[3:46] ward meeting as amended and regular
[3:49] meeting of Council on December 12th 2024
[3:53] moved by councelor post and Seed by uh
[3:58] councelor little all those in
[4:00] favor
[4:04] carried we now have a proclamation or a
[4:07] delegation from PC mlan duffen op
[4:11] regarding the annual Polar Plunge
[4:14] challenge I'd like to um invite
[4:17] provincial Constable mlan from duffo P
[4:21] to
[4:21] delegate excellent uh first and foremost
[4:24] I want to thank uh County Council for
[4:26] having me on there today um I know I
[4:28] signed up short notice but I want to to
[4:29] make sure that I got the information
[4:31] about the Polar Plunge out to the County
[4:33] Council um and to invite the counselors
[4:36] that uh sit uh within the municipalities
[4:39] to participate within the Polar Plunge
[4:43] um it's not my first time coming to
[4:45] various councils for this so I fig that
[4:47] this was the best opportunity where I
[4:49] can hit all the municipalities all at
[4:51] once and I encourage each uh delegate
[4:54] from County Council to bring it back to
[4:56] their individual councils within their
[4:58] municipality
[5:00] um I know that I see a couple Mayors
[5:02] Deputy Mayors counselors that kind of
[5:04] cringe as soon as they saw my name on
[5:05] the board um mayor Mills being one of
[5:09] them and uh Deputy Mayor mlan so uh for
[5:12] those that participated last year um I
[5:14] believe we had six or seven different
[5:16] delegates from County Council um as well
[5:20] as I know Orangeville Council has some
[5:21] Representatives so I want to thank
[5:23] everybody once again for participating
[5:25] in this very important event and I want
[5:27] to encourage those who did participate
[5:29] last year um whether it was donations or
[5:32] actually participating in the event to
[5:34] come on out again this year um just a
[5:36] bit of a background for those who are
[5:39] unaware as to what the Polar Plunge is
[5:41] what it is is it's a fundraiser that uh
[5:43] we hold across the province I believe
[5:45] there was about 25 across the province
[5:47] last year um where people jump in a body
[5:52] of water for Special Olympics so they
[5:54] raise money um we in shelburn we've held
[5:57] it this will be the fifth year total
[5:59] between the sh Police Service and the
[6:01] atar provinal police uh where we set up
[6:03] a pool everybody jumps in once the fire
[6:05] department fills it up and rais a lot of
[6:07] money I believe that between shelburn
[6:09] and op we've raised well over $100,000
[6:13] for Special Olympics alone which up
[6:16] until last uh the three events preco we
[6:19] were beating out police services that
[6:20] were running the event like uh Toronto
[6:22] police we're being a peel region and all
[6:24] that so it's amazing for such a small
[6:26] community to uh continue to raise amount
[6:29] of money so um for the Polar Plunge
[6:33] itself it's a part of the larger
[6:36] fundraising initiative of the law
[6:37] enforcement torrun which globally it is
[6:40] the largest Grassroots fundraiser for
[6:42] the Special Olympics so what the money
[6:44] goes towards is it assists special
[6:46] Olympians in training it assists them in
[6:49] being able to participate in sport and
[6:51] uniforms and all that sort of stuff um
[6:53] and allows them to grow it gives them
[6:56] the opportunity to fit in and become
[6:58] champions
[7:00] um we have numerous um athletes within
[7:04] the community I want to say that the
[7:06] duffing club alone uh probably consists
[7:08] about 35 to 40 different athletes and in
[7:11] Deen County we offer I believe it's six
[7:14] different sports in total so it's very
[7:17] important it's a lot of athletes do play
[7:19] in several different sports uh between
[7:21] summer winter and so forth um so it's an
[7:24] extremely important uh program that we
[7:27] kind of head up um this year's Polar
[7:30] Plunge we have moved it um just to
[7:33] coincide with another event that's going
[7:35] on uh so it'll be on family day Monday
[7:37] which is February 17th
[7:39] 2025 um and we've moved it over to the
[7:42] agricultural barns in shelburn um that
[7:44] way we can kind of collaborate with the
[7:47] free Family skate that happens on family
[7:49] day and we're not splitting the
[7:51] community it's walking distance
[7:53] basically everywhere in town and then we
[7:55] can also um people can go there they can
[7:57] have the free Family skate and then they
[7:59] can go watch people be uncomfortable by
[8:00] jumping in the pool and then they can
[8:02] kind of go home so um this year is going
[8:05] to be the first year where we haven't
[8:06] held it at fiddle Park and again it was
[8:08] just Logistics because we realized that
[8:11] with the free Family skate we were
[8:12] literally splitting the community so
[8:14] we're just trying to bring everybody
[8:15] together in a familyfriendly
[8:18] atmosphere um in addition to uh this
[8:21] year um I came to County Council I
[8:24] believe it was in March of uh
[8:27] 2024 where um the warden at the time
[8:30] actually awarded what I nicknamed the
[8:32] Frozen belt so what I did is I've gone
[8:35] out as a member of Def op and we've
[8:38] bought a uh literally a wrestling belt
[8:41] that we've completely done up uh
[8:44] specific to duffen County for the polar
[8:46] plch so what this belt is is the highest
[8:50] fundraiser for the event ends up winning
[8:53] this belt and they get a little uh
[8:54] replica belt that they get to keep last
[8:57] year and I think three out of the five
[9:00] years that we've actually run it a
[9:01] special Olympian has won the belt each
[9:03] and every time so and I can tell you
[9:06] right now I've been contact with his
[9:08] father he literally displays the belt in
[9:10] his room he carries it around he brings
[9:12] it to events and all that sort of stuff
[9:13] so it is a moment of Pride for him so
[9:16] this year we're officially announcing it
[9:18] where we'll be uh be presenting it on
[9:20] stage at the event to make sure that he
[9:22] gets the recognition that he deserves or
[9:24] whoever wins it my apologies and at a
[9:27] later date then we'll be awarding the
[9:29] smaller replica belt and so forth so
[9:31] last year I believe he raised over
[9:34] $5,000 just by himself which is
[9:36] incredible so and especially when on a
[9:39] grand scheme of things the whole event
[9:40] raised just over
[9:42] $188,000 so this year we're hoping to
[9:44] amp it up especially by having a
[9:46] collaboration with other family day
[9:48] events and hopefully we can make it
[9:50] another great
[9:52] success um last year as well we had
[9:54] close to 80 plungers so this year
[9:56] obviously we're looking for more um so
[9:58] again i' like to challenge everybody
[10:02] sitting at this table and to jump in
[10:05] again this year if you jumped in
[10:06] previously you know it's really not that
[10:08] bad and we're always looking at ways to
[10:11] make it a little bit easier on the
[10:13] plungers as well last year we had a wood
[10:15] burning sauna that was donated by Aaron
[10:17] Downey um this year I'm going to reach
[10:19] out to Aaron to see whether or not we
[10:21] can have it on site again but just
[10:23] logistically by having it at the
[10:25] agricultural grounds um I'm I've asked
[10:28] the shurn arena as as well to open up
[10:30] the change room so then that way there's
[10:32] also a shower option that if people want
[10:35] to change in the warmth get showered up
[10:36] and all that sort of stuff so then that
[10:38] that way they're not cold throughout the
[10:39] whole day so we're just looking at
[10:41] different amenities and so forth to kind
[10:42] of expand on it and if anybody at the
[10:44] table has any suggestions I'd be more
[10:46] than willing to hear about it um I
[10:48] believe the clerk has my email address
[10:49] feel free to shoot me off a message um
[10:52] and so again I want to challenge
[10:54] everybody at the table everybody that
[10:56] sits on the municipalities um and can
[10:59] send out uh flyers and all that sort of
[11:02] stuff to everybody at the table so then
[11:04] that way they can kind of broadcast it
[11:05] out to their different delegates um the
[11:09] website to sign up is polar plunge.
[11:13] CA duffrin
[11:15] and within that website as well you can
[11:17] either register or you can donate um so
[11:21] I would highly encourage people to
[11:23] register either as a team or as an
[11:24] individual you can be a team of one so
[11:27] if you decide that you're going to go
[11:28] with a certain team because we do uh do
[11:31] a bit of a costume contest both
[11:32] individual and team so if you decide
[11:35] that you want to register as a member of
[11:37] a team and your team's only one but
[11:38] you're going with a theme by all means
[11:40] we encourage it so um again I want to
[11:43] thank County Council for inviting me out
[11:45] here today and if there's any questions
[11:47] by all means I'd be more than willing to
[11:49] answer thank you Constable um any any
[11:53] volunteers for the duffan county team
[11:57] today they all look a little warm me but
[12:00] thank you for your presentation and I
[12:02] know you'll see some of us there
[12:04] excellent thank you so much appreciate
[12:05] it thanks from
[12:09] last Darren says he's still cold from
[12:13] year okay um is there anyone in the
[12:16] public gallery that has a question if
[12:19] you do please stand state your name and
[12:22] your
[12:23] address were there any
[12:26] questions here yes is that where I stand
[12:30] just you can stand here okay anyway my
[12:33] name is
[12:34] nisto I live on 2 po L9
[12:40] W5
[12:43] V1 okay the question I have today and I
[12:46] spoke to a lot of residents from the
[12:48] town of
[12:49] Orangeville unfortunately the town of
[12:52] Orangeville pass a budget with the 5%
[12:55] increase just a penny less but I say 5 %
[12:59] increase a lot of people they're not
[13:02] very happy with that here we standing
[13:05] here tonight so you have your your work
[13:07] cut out because you're also looking a
[13:11] 5.6% increase so I hope this body here
[13:15] tonight will do their best to lower the
[13:18] budget I know I sat on this table for
[13:21] three years as a deputy mayor it's not
[13:24] an easy task but it can be done if you
[13:27] put your mind to it to get bring it down
[13:30] to zero so I leave it with that because
[13:33] a lot of people I can tell you in the
[13:35] town of or they not very happy thank
[13:39] you yes who are they I haven't heard
[13:42] from anybody not happy with well I can
[13:45] tell you you know you know what kind of
[13:47] work I
[13:48] do one person has gotten in touch with
[13:50] ha stylist I'm a hair stylist by trade I
[13:53] I don't I don't believe you well you
[13:56] don't believe in me why why you don't
[13:58] believe in me no one has complained
[14:00] about it General St were you in the
[14:02] place when they told me sorry folks this
[14:04] is an Orangeville exactly this is an
[14:06] Orangeville discussion and I but what I
[14:09] I brought to the attention over this
[14:10] party here today because you also
[14:12] looking at
[14:14] 5.6% increase yes so that's what I'm
[14:17] looking and if you stick with the number
[14:19] you know what that means for the T of
[14:21] rville let's say you stick with the same
[14:24] numbers that means orange Ville is going
[14:27] to get hit with over 7% % increase
[14:30] that's a hallway sh thank you thank
[14:37] you thank you uh Gordon uh my name is
[14:40] David W I'm a Tanda in Orangeville U my
[14:42] question is kind of similar but I think
[14:44] sorry my not uh being heard uh similar I
[14:48] I would say you guys did a great job on
[14:49] the budget uh really bring it down being
[14:51] incredibly responsible and investing in
[14:52] what we uh have been underinvestigated
[14:59] not um but I think really the challenge
[15:02] that all of us are in but Orangeville
[15:03] more acutely um from my personal
[15:06] perspective relates to more of a
[15:07] structural um funding model uh challenge
[15:11] right so I don't know if you're
[15:12] comfortable doing this now or if you
[15:14] would be willing to State this later
[15:16] during the discussion but I would like
[15:17] to know how many of you or individually
[15:20] acknowledge that there's a funding model
[15:22] problem that needs to be fixed right and
[15:24] then if you acknowledge that proceed
[15:26] with the discussion and fix it right um
[15:28] but I think
[15:29] it's going to be challenging for all of
[15:30] you to have a meaningful discussion
[15:32] debate and make some decisions um when I
[15:35] think there's from my perspective in
[15:37] watching a lot of these meetings online
[15:39] um kind of a convenient denial that uh
[15:41] the challenge even exists uh in some
[15:43] cases and I think it's you got to call
[15:44] it out so that we can fix it um so
[15:48] whether you want to do that now or later
[15:49] I leave that to you but I think that
[15:51] personally I think is the problem that
[15:52] needs to be fixed and I uh look forward
[15:54] to um you doing that and I thank you all
[15:56] for your service I know it's it's a big
[15:58] job and I would appreciate you doing it
[16:00] councelor
[16:02] Garretts I just wanted to add that so
[16:05] I'm Chris Garretts from Township amaran
[16:07] and our Deputy Mayor Gail little is here
[16:10] we have a delegation with the Minister
[16:11] of Finance I sorry it's the
[16:13] Parliamentary assistant at Roma in a
[16:15] week and a half uh and the exact topic
[16:18] is the the problem with the the funding
[16:21] model so I think it's fair to say and
[16:24] you know that that amaranth for one
[16:28] recognizes that there's that there's an
[16:30] issue an an equity issue um and I'm I
[16:34] I'm confident in saying that yeah that's
[16:35] amar's position
[16:39] thank
[16:40] mlan yeah uh thanks for coming in thanks
[16:43] for the question I just wanted to be
[16:44] clear on like what aspect of the funding
[16:46] model do you have concerns with yeah gu
[16:50] primarily I I guess would be
[16:52] predominantly related to the uh the
[16:53] capital investment component of uh
[16:56] facilities right so I'm speaking to you
[16:57] know libraries in some cases also the uh
[17:01] community centers like Alder the rec
[17:03] center um you know there are others I
[17:05] mean right now obviously Tony Rose uh is
[17:07] a whole other Kettle fish uh that's
[17:09] going to be a big challenge um so I I do
[17:11] acknowledge certainly that there are
[17:13] contributions from an operating fees
[17:15] perspective um and in some cases you
[17:17] know higher than what Orangeville
[17:18] residents would necessarily contribute
[17:19] from an operating funding perspective
[17:21] but uh the the capital investment and
[17:24] also the corresponding costs either from
[17:26] a legal perspective or you know
[17:27] everything else that comes with it I
[17:29] have to imagine there's been some legal
[17:30] costs over at alter recently um you know
[17:33] that that's significant I'm not sure
[17:34] that's been captured uh sufficiently um
[17:37] again you guys would probably know
[17:38] better than me and I'm sure some of the
[17:39] other colleagues here would know even
[17:41] better than that but um you know when
[17:43] you look at the tax rates across
[17:46] municipalities and where where the costs
[17:48] sit versus where the people are versus
[17:49] where the land is and who has the
[17:51] capacity to grow um from a tax base
[17:53] perspective you know Orangeville got
[17:56] pinched from a from a landmass
[17:57] perspective um Inc capacity yet has the
[18:01] line share of both the operating costs
[18:04] and more significantly and acutely the
[18:06] uh the capital investment needs um
[18:09] without the corresponding commit
[18:11] sufficient ability to find the funds
[18:13] right and uh you know I think it would
[18:16] be a bit extreme to uh you know make the
[18:18] analogy that it's bit like Canada and
[18:20] the states and the conversation that
[18:21] Trump's having right now but uh there's
[18:22] a bit of a free riter effect I think
[18:24] that uh you know some people could uh
[18:27] you know run the risk of having that
[18:28] feeling and I don't think that's good
[18:29] for the community when you know that
[18:31] sort of Us Versus Them feeling and
[18:33] sentiment and resentment can uh has the
[18:35] capacity or the opportunity to start
[18:36] faster right I think we've got an
[18:38] opportunity now to nip it and uh I
[18:41] challenge you to do it and I I I know
[18:42] you will do your best and I hope you do
[18:44] thank you you uh councelor
[18:49] ni yeah I'm sorry to be a bit dense I'm
[18:52] still not quite clear on the problem
[18:55] you're identifying is it the share of
[18:59] taxes being paid by municipalities
[19:01] versus The Province or is it the share
[19:04] of taxes being paid by Orangeville
[19:06] versus the other municipalities in
[19:08] different counties I'm not quite sure I
[19:10] understand your
[19:12] point I mean respectfully um councelor
[19:16] Nicks uh if if you're not sure of the
[19:19] problem then that's that in itself is
[19:20] part of the problem um it should be
[19:24] self-evident I I don't mean to be
[19:26] disrespectful but it it should be clear
[19:28] um I'm not clear I'm not clear of what
[19:30] problem you're talking
[19:32] about okay I I'm sure up in the
[19:34] conversation well can't can't you just
[19:36] sure I mean tell me sure I mean I I just
[19:38] I want to be respectful of your time I
[19:39] think I'm probably already over but uh
[19:42] um it it would be the the portion like
[19:44] Orangeville has uh operating and capital
[19:48] costs related to its uh facilities right
[19:52] whether it's every municipality does not
[19:54] every municipality here has libraries
[19:56] not every municipality here has rec
[19:57] centers not every municipal here has
[19:59] other you know I could go on right we we
[20:02] I come from the town of mono sure we pay
[20:04] for Library services to Orangeville
[20:06] right which is what I we pay a higher
[20:08] fee for going to the swimming pool than
[20:10] Orangeville residents y I spoke to that
[20:11] before that's where I I openly
[20:13] acknowledge that you do contribute to
[20:14] the operating cost component which would
[20:15] be the staff in the building the heat
[20:17] the hydro so so put it in plain English
[20:19] what you're saying is the surrounding
[20:20] municipalities don't pay enough is that
[20:22] what you're trying to say I'm saying
[20:24] that when Tony Rose uh needs to be fixed
[20:26] knocked down uh replaced whatever answer
[20:29] question um yes the the cost to build
[20:32] the new facility whatever uh size shape
[20:34] or form it takes um somebody's got to
[20:36] build the building before you can
[20:38] contribute your component of the
[20:39] operating expenses right there there's
[20:41] got to be a building and a service there
[20:43] to begin with right and that's where
[20:45] Orangeville has paid more than their
[20:46] fair share for an awful long time so you
[20:49] are saying that the surrounding
[20:50] municipalities are not paying enough
[20:53] okay I understand you know yes than
[20:55] thank you councelor white thank you uh
[20:59] Warden uh so essentially there's two
[21:01] components to your your argument one
[21:04] that I don't think you're aware of and
[21:05] one that clearly you are aware of the
[21:07] first one that I'll talk about is uh
[21:10] there is a problem with the funding
[21:12] model at the upper levels of government
[21:14] and how they support or don't support uh
[21:18] municipalities and the fact that
[21:20] municipalities have to do 90% of the
[21:22] work on 10% of the money uh there is
[21:26] advocacy and discussion going on in
[21:29] all of our Municipal organizations Roma
[21:31] Western wardens Amo all of those groups
[21:35] are are having those discussions on what
[21:37] a better uh funding model looks like so
[21:40] some of that uh if that ever uh realizes
[21:45] any benefit some of that will be
[21:46] addressed in that uh but you know with
[21:49] regards to your other point um every
[21:51] municipality here pays for libraries
[21:54] it's just how do we do it uh in mangon
[21:57] we pay into the shelburn Public Library
[22:00] uh we do that with a a both a an
[22:02] operating uh contribution and a capital
[22:06] contribution based on budgets that are
[22:08] set by that Library I would assume that
[22:11] there's every different library has some
[22:13] kind of agreement like
[22:19] that yeah that that's fair so I mean but
[22:22] with regards to recreation centers fire
[22:24] departments all those things they're all
[22:27] the same um from time to time those
[22:29] Agreements are modified or exchanged or
[22:32] right now we're looking at fire and how
[22:33] that works uh going forward uh if a time
[22:37] comes when we're going to discuss
[22:39] libraries and whatnot or Recreation or
[22:41] whatnot I mean those times will come
[22:42] those that those discussions will be had
[22:45] I think everybody around here at this
[22:47] table staff included all want to see a
[22:49] better vibrant thriving Community um and
[22:53] uh you know but we can't do everything
[22:55] all the time at the same time so it's an
[22:58] evolving conversation and I think
[23:00] everybody supports having that
[23:04] conversation one last word just wanted
[23:08] to just wanted to add similar to uh
[23:11] counselor white amaranth p is operating
[23:13] in capital to Grand Valley and shelburn
[23:15] Rec Centers Grand Valley and and
[23:17] shelburn libraries the reason we don't
[23:19] to Orangeville is because some time ago
[23:22] a a previous Council we're going back
[23:25] decades had us removed from those AR
[23:27] Arrangements so as a
[23:29] result Aman now is obligated to pay zero
[23:32] doar to the library and is obligated to
[23:36] pay $ Z to your to the rec center for
[23:39] Orangeville that was not our decision
[23:41] that was the town of Orangeville
[23:43] decision at the time so just wanted to
[23:45] clarify that
[23:48] appr thank you
[23:50] sir okay um moving on and and it's great
[23:54] to have some public involvement really
[23:57] there's lots of days we go by here and
[23:59] uh there's nobody from the public um and
[24:02] you wonder does anybody care but yes
[24:05] people do care so thank you for for your
[24:07] uh
[24:09] questions uh number nine is a selection
[24:12] committee for the homelessness task
[24:14] force uh the report from the clerk uh
[24:17] dated January
[24:20] 9th so
[24:22] um are we needing any further discussion
[24:26] on this what we're asking for our at
[24:29] least two individuals to be appointed uh
[24:34] to the um selection
[24:37] process do we Sorry I'd like to with
[24:41] your permission nominate uh councelor
[24:43] post for one of the positions councelor
[24:46] post are you willing to stand yes
[24:48] absolutely thank you councelor
[24:49] Garretts and is there anyone else that's
[24:55] interested Lisa um I think it would be
[24:58] appropriate for councelor mlan as the
[25:00] new chair of Health and Human Services
[25:01] so if he's willing I would love to
[25:03] nominate councelor mlan to join me are
[25:05] you willing to stand councilor M I am
[25:07] thanks councel post uh any further
[25:10] interest or is that uh that everybody
[25:14] that's interested okay so um the motion
[25:19] reads I need to mover in the seconder
[25:21] then um moved by councelor Garrett
[25:24] seconded by councelor Hall that the
[25:25] report from the clerk uh Cao
[25:29] 01225 selection committee homelessness
[25:32] task force stated January 9th be
[25:34] received and the selection process
[25:36] outlined in the report be approved and
[25:39] that counselors post and mlan be
[25:41] appointed to sit on the homelessness
[25:44] task
[25:46] force all those in
[25:48] favor
[25:51] carried okay uh the next item is
[25:55] 9.2 the CAO evaluation committee again
[25:59] the report from the CAO dated January
[26:02] 9th um we have a a motion um that the
[26:07] report be received and we need some
[26:10] volunteers for the evaluation committee
[26:13] is anyone interested in sitting on this
[26:17] committee Warden Warden horer I'd be
[26:20] interested in joining you on that
[26:21] committee right councelor post you're
[26:22] going to be
[26:24] busy councelor
[26:26] Mills I'd be happy to join
[26:28] both of you okay and we need one more uh
[26:32] I don't know who to pick first let's uh
[26:35] councelor little your hand I think I saw
[26:39] first thank you yes I I would be uh
[26:43] honored to be a part of that committee
[26:44] as well but uh you know if if uh we have
[26:49] counselor Nicks as well so we have
[26:51] everybody on this committee we actually
[26:54] should just have four so um well we need
[26:57] an election or what do we do no I'm I'm
[27:02] quite happy if councelor little wants to
[27:06] I will be sure to consult with councelor
[27:08] next as
[27:11] well it's that's probably a good thing
[27:14] councelor okay so
[27:17] um did we get a move in a second
[27:20] or okay so I need to move in a second
[27:23] for this McAn and uh kelman that the
[27:27] report from the chief administrative
[27:30] office report CAO
[27:33] 20252 CAO evaluation committee 2025
[27:37] dated January 9th 2025 be received and
[27:40] that the following members be appointed
[27:42] to the CAO evaluation committee for 2025
[27:46] Warden Herer councelor uh post councelor
[27:50] Mills and councelor little all those in
[27:54] favor that one's carried okay
[27:59] um the next uh
[28:02] exciting item is the budget and I know
[28:07] you're all just sitting on the edges of
[28:09] your seats I know we have appreciated
[28:13] the the questions that have occurred
[28:15] before the um the budget process so that
[28:20] you can get some clarity on what you
[28:22] read and you know sometimes it's not
[28:25] easy to just figure out the numbers and
[28:27] and the intent so the questions were
[28:30] welcome and uh we appreciate those
[28:33] questions ahead of time so Amy I'm going
[28:37] to turn this over to you and um you can
[28:40] walk us through this actually excellent
[28:43] document thank
[28:47] you I'm just going to say one thing if
[28:49] that's okay hor horer and that is just
[28:51] um from a logistical perspective we
[28:54] thought uh in between each of the
[28:56] committee presentations we would take a
[28:57] five minute break and either after um
[29:01] the infrastructure Environmental
[29:02] Services presentation or after the ggs
[29:05] presentation we'll take a longer 20 to
[29:07] 25 minute dinner break so if that works
[29:10] for everyone just so we all are clear on
[29:12] what's Happening and uh now it's all
[29:15] over to
[29:17] Amy just just a second Amy before we
[29:20] begin are you wanting questions as
[29:22] you're presenting or do you want us to
[29:24] wait until the end of each section
[29:28] I actually cover that in the overview
[29:30] section once I read through the overview
[29:32] section I will let you know but pretty
[29:34] much as you go through keep us in
[29:38] yeah okay so Sonia and I are kind of
[29:40] working together here she's going to run
[29:43] the
[29:47] presentation just waiting for it to come
[29:49] up on the screen
[30:04] okay so I'm going to start with a
[30:07] condensed version of the budget overview
[30:09] that we had it in uh December before we
[30:11] move into the Committees and I'll warn
[30:14] you I have added a couple of slides to
[30:16] the overview section that weren't
[30:17] included in your
[30:19] package so this chart summarizes the
[30:22] 20124 next slide Sonia 2024 and 2025
[30:26] budget as well as our plan for 26 2027
[30:29] and
[30:31] 2028 next slide although most of the
[30:34] slides today will include the 2026 to
[30:36] 2028 plan we will be focusing on 2024
[30:39] and
[30:42] 2025 at a high level this chart shows
[30:45] that our 2025 total operating expenses
[30:47] are 161 including Capital uh work is 161
[30:52] million a significant jump over 2024
[30:54] mainly due to the larger capital
[30:56] projects non Tech
[30:58] tax revenue is $98 million which
[31:00] includes $22 million in debt to fund the
[31:03] capital projects lastly we plan on using
[31:06] nearly $14 million in reserves and
[31:08] development charges with over $10
[31:10] million going towards
[31:13] Capital this is what we call the status
[31:15] quo budget it represents the cost to
[31:17] continue doing exactly what we
[31:19] do uh and it requires over $ 48.9
[31:22] million in tax levy which is an increase
[31:25] of 1.5 million or 3.2% over
[31:30] 2024 I think you skipped ah head Sonia
[31:33] currently proposed uh we have $1.8
[31:37] million in additions to the status quo
[31:39] budget these
[31:40] include new positions with a value of
[31:44] $413,000 previously committed of 295,000
[31:46] and new to 2025 things we haven't seen
[31:50] before of $1.1
[31:53] million combine the status quo the the
[31:57] status quo results in a
[32:00] 7.08% increase sorry I'm looking at I'm
[32:03] looking at the screen I'm seeing 5.5 cuz
[32:05] I'm looking at the far
[32:06] side and when we take into consideration
[32:09] growth we we leave leaves this at
[32:13] 5.6% which is approximately
[32:16] $22.40 for each $100,000 of
[32:21] assessment although the focus today is
[32:24] 2025 I would be remiss if I didn't yeah
[32:28] if I didn't point out that 2026 2027 and
[32:30] 2028 show some significant increases
[32:34] these include the F year impact of items
[32:36] proposed in 2025 such as the paramed X
[32:39] Edition uh and new staff they also
[32:41] include future debt payments for
[32:43] proposed borrowing we will need to do
[32:45] renovations to this building as well as
[32:47] a new Operation Center and increase
[32:49] contribution to the housing strategy as
[32:52] always the future years are estimates
[32:53] and are subject to change but these are
[32:55] our current projections
[32:58] now I'm just going to summarize some of
[33:01] the uh priorities that we have some
[33:04] major initiatives and projects to
[33:07] support the Strategic plan within
[33:09] climate and environment we have the
[33:11] better home retrofit program climate
[33:13] master plan the county buildings energy
[33:16] retrofit study that I'm just going to
[33:17] put an aster on that we'll come back to
[33:19] that later electric vehicle charging
[33:22] station for County Fleet long-term Waste
[33:25] Management strategy update and audits
[33:28] within the community priority we have
[33:29] housing strategy implementation upgrades
[33:32] and capital maintenance on the housing
[33:33] stock paramedics Services master plan
[33:36] additional paramedic shift in
[33:41] shelburn under economy we have advancing
[33:43] the workforce strategy for early early
[33:46] childhood Educators countywide Community
[33:48] Improvement plan investment attraction
[33:50] program tourist to development and
[33:52] governance we plan to review the
[33:54] committee meeting structure progress on
[33:58] the new Operation Center Adel Brock
[34:00] Center improvements completing the
[34:02] digital modernization projects and
[34:04] fundraising and sponsorship plan for the
[34:06] Museum of duffen and then lastly with
[34:09] Equity getting implementation of the
[34:11] older adult strategy Transit
[34:13] improvements countywide Community
[34:15] Improvement plan investment attraction
[34:16] program tourist development indigenous
[34:19] education training so we have a lot of
[34:22] different projects that we've kind of um
[34:25] that we have on the go
[34:30] and I just wanted to throw in a summary
[34:31] of the proposed additions by category so
[34:35] the bottom there adds up to $1.9 million
[34:39] which includes the
[34:41] capital uh New Capital so the total
[34:44] revenues are are $2.3 million expenses
[34:47] are 4.9 with transfers net transfers
[34:52] um of $710,000 and then capital
[34:56] investment is 118,000 and that just want
[34:59] to note that that's the net capital
[35:01] investment am uh new new
[35:05] stuff that's being funded by a tax
[35:10] levy
[35:12] okay some other considerations today if
[35:15] you're looking to reduce the tax levy um
[35:20] there's really only a few ways you can
[35:21] do that one is to increase revenues
[35:23] which is very difficult in municipal
[35:25] government second we can look at
[35:27] increasing expenses but that too can be
[35:30] difficult um and have future year
[35:32] impacts you can certainly postpone or
[35:35] remove specific projects for uh for
[35:39] future years or you can consider
[35:41] changing service levels but often such
[35:43] changes do take time and will not impact
[35:45] the current year very much if at all
[35:47] these are typically more longer term
[35:50] strategies we can create a list of these
[35:52] items for future discussion today if we
[35:54] want to you can also reduce the contrib
[35:57] tion to Capital this doesn't necessarily
[35:59] mean the removal of items from the work
[36:01] plan because generally that work still
[36:03] needs to be done and we've been raising
[36:05] money for it over the years it would
[36:07] impact future uh work plans though
[36:10] lastly you can also apply more
[36:13] reserves I just want to note that 1% of
[36:17] tax levy is approximately
[36:21] $475,000 for each committee we will
[36:24] review the Departments which it covers
[36:26] and then Within for each division within
[36:28] the department we will split out
[36:30] revenues expenses expenses transfers
[36:33] from reserves providing
[36:35] highlights we will where appropriate we
[36:38] will also highlight any proposed
[36:39] additions before moving to moving on to
[36:41] capital for that Division if at anytime
[36:44] you do have questions or you would like
[36:45] to discuss a particular item please let
[36:47] me know I will do my best to pause but I
[36:50] do have a tendency just to keep going
[36:51] because there's lots to say so feel free
[36:54] to interrupt me and the other thing I
[36:56] wanted to note
[36:59] um Sonic can you go back a couple okay
[37:02] or open up the other one just in the
[37:04] upper right hand corner of the slide it
[37:07] does reference the page number within
[37:08] the package where there's more detail if
[37:11] you do want to go and look at
[37:13] that so now we're going to move on to
[37:16] IES
[38:10] okay infrastructure and
[38:14] environment this committee only includes
[38:16] public
[38:18] works at the beginning of each
[38:21] department can slide down a couple
[38:23] slides
[38:25] sorry um I Prov a summary showing the
[38:29] status quo of each division So within
[38:31] Public Works we have operations in Fleet
[38:33] engineering climate energy facilities
[38:36] Waste Services in County
[38:38] forest they have a proposed 4.6% overall
[38:43] increase and then the next slide shows
[38:46] the totals for each
[38:49] division next
[38:53] slide um including any proposed
[38:56] additions so for for public works that's
[39:02] 6.9% this Capital um chart summarizes
[39:06] the capital for the Department showing
[39:08] the value of the proposed work in purple
[39:11] the value of the capital asset Fund in
[39:13] Orange and the required Levy in
[39:15] blue I like this chart because it
[39:18] provides a nice summary of the capital
[39:20] overall over 20 years and it reminds us
[39:22] that we do look at the 20-year plan when
[39:24] we're coming up with the levy
[39:25] requirements
[39:28] uh this includes roads and structures as
[39:30] well as the adro center the courthouse
[39:32] Waste Services and operations and County
[39:38] forest I want to note that this is based
[39:40] on the information that we had at the
[39:42] time recognizing that the roads and
[39:44] structures will change as we finalize
[39:46] our updated Capital plan in support of
[39:48] the implementation of the road
[39:50] rationalization
[39:53] study okay let's move into the
[39:55] individual divisions
[39:59] operations and
[40:01] Fleet
[40:05] okay revenues are are down
[40:09] 52% are
[40:13] $164,000 government transfers includes
[40:15] an increase in Winter maintenance
[40:17] revenues to better reflect actual of
[40:20] $10,000 and other revenue is a reduction
[40:23] in staff and Equipment time essentially
[40:25] that's their time spent on capital
[40:26] projects
[40:32] expenses the total increase here is
[40:34] 1.86% or
[40:38] $115,000 public uh operations in fleet
[40:41] has 21 full-time positions and 14
[40:44] part-time winter seasonal
[40:46] positions Staffing is not really down in
[40:49] 2024 or in 2025 it looks like it because
[40:52] 2024 we did include an extra amount for
[40:54] the overlap of the operations manager
[40:59] position additional highlights under
[41:02] admin and office Consulting fees include
[41:04] road safety reviews audits for
[41:07] $20,000 increase in training to support
[41:10] ongoing ongoing learning of Staff of
[41:14] $1,850 we've added more staff over the
[41:16] last few years uh and the training
[41:18] budget didn't reflect quite enough
[41:21] within Service delivery we have service
[41:23] and rental contracts as well as
[41:25] materials for Bridges and Calvert
[41:27] of
[41:29] $999,000 roadside maintenance of 79 hard
[41:32] top and loose top maintenance of
[41:35] $226,000 Safety Systems of just over
[41:38] 680,000 which includes lime painting
[41:41] Hydro for lights guide rail repair and
[41:44] winter control you go to the next slide
[41:46] if you white and of $1.1
[41:49] million and then it Communications we
[41:52] shifted the annual fee for municipal 511
[41:55] permit software from Service delivery to
[41:58] software fees so it's not really an
[41:59] increase
[42:01] there any
[42:04] questions see none you moving on to
[42:08] transfers um 2024 we included that
[42:11] manager overlap which is why there's no
[42:15] we had that coming from reserves and
[42:17] then the $775,000 is a transfer to
[42:20] capital for future equipment
[42:24] replacement moving on to proposed
[42:26] addition the net for 2025 for operations
[42:29] in Fleet is
[42:30] $49,000 2026 2027 and 2028 see some
[42:35] large increases as uh these relate to
[42:38] the new Operation
[42:40] Center next
[42:42] slide previously committed the thermal
[42:45] Road Network mapping involves using
[42:47] temperature data from sensors and
[42:49] satellite imagery to access road
[42:51] conditions which we which will identify
[42:53] hot or cold spots in the road Network
[42:55] resulting in the ability to optimize
[42:57] infrastructure management for safety and
[42:59] efficiency and that is estimated $35,000
[43:02] and is to be funded by the rate
[43:04] stabilization plan
[43:06] Reserve Fleet booking software it
[43:09] enables users to reserve manage and
[43:11] track vehicles in a shared Fleet
[43:12] streamlining streamlining vehicle access
[43:14] and optimizing Fleet utilization Annual
[43:17] fees are $10,000 uh we purchased this
[43:20] software I think in 2024 using a
[43:25] grant and then the road Safety
[43:27] Management soft software enables
[43:30] datadriven decisions making decision-
[43:33] making helps to reduce future collisions
[43:35] and promotes Public Safety through
[43:37] efficient traffic management and policy
[43:39] enforcement implementation costs and
[43:41] annual fees are estimated 20
[43:44] G any question on
[43:47] those Council next yeah I'm just I'm
[43:51] having trouble keeping track of where I
[43:52] am but I know you've got in your budget
[43:55] you're going to borrow some money for
[43:56] the southern Operation Center I think
[43:58] about 20 $20 million I was curious and I
[44:01] I know it's just a plan now you haven't
[44:03] borrowed it but I'm curious um do you go
[44:06] to infrastructure Ontario for that money
[44:08] and do you have any sense of what uh
[44:10] interest you they they would charge you
[44:12] now and what type of loan is it is it
[44:15] like a a mortgage loan where you pay
[44:17] back a fixed amount per month capital
[44:19] and interest over a certain number of
[44:21] years do do you have any details on how
[44:23] that loan works and if that's Maybe not
[44:26] maybe it's premature to be asking this
[44:28] I'm sort of curious because we sometimes
[44:31] have considered in the town of mono
[44:32] whether or not we could borrow money and
[44:34] so I'd be interested in as to how it
[44:36] works with infrastructure
[44:38] Ontario um through you Warden I did look
[44:42] into it in the fall and the rate at that
[44:44] point I think was four and a quarter I
[44:45] would assume that the rate has come down
[44:47] since then um there's options you can
[44:49] borrow so that you're only paying
[44:51] semiannually or you can pay quarterly or
[44:53] you can pay monthly my recommendation
[44:56] would be monthly because the interest
[44:57] costs will be lower over the long run um
[45:00] when we do move to when we make the
[45:03] final decision to borrow then will come
[45:05] to council and we'll have a further
[45:06] discussion on what those options are and
[45:08] what the best rout is
[45:11] okay okay uh new to 2025 we include a
[45:15] guide rail inspection study which will
[45:17] be used to ensure the safety barriers
[45:19] are properly maintained identify areas
[45:21] in need of repair or Improvement and
[45:24] prioritize resources to mitigate risks
[45:27] and protect Road users uh $60,000 this
[45:30] also will be funded from the rate
[45:31] stabilization
[45:32] Reserve Road Patrol software is
[45:34] necessary for summer and winter
[45:36] patrolling as it helps track and manage
[45:38] maintenance activities ensuring timely
[45:41] responses to weather related road
[45:43] conditions optimizing resource
[45:45] allocation for safety and enabling
[45:47] compliance with minimum maintenance
[45:49] standards and with an annual fee of
[45:51] 18,500 any question on
[45:54] those councelor mlan uh yeah I was just
[45:58] curious what is the road safety
[45:59] management software like what is that
[46:01] intended to
[46:05] do through you Warden um so that's the
[46:08] software that we talked about the last
[46:10] council meeting um where basically what
[46:12] it allows us to do is to provide several
[46:16] inputs as well as geometry of an
[46:18] intersection and it can run through very
[46:20] quickly different modeling for different
[46:22] approaches different improvements or
[46:23] changes to an intersection for example
[46:25] so that we can come up very quick
[46:26] quickly you know we talk often around
[46:28] this table about whether an all stop is
[46:30] appropriate additional Lanes um those
[46:33] types of things and it just helps us do
[46:34] that much more quickly because we
[46:35] certainly are seeing um Road Safety is a
[46:38] priority for us it seems to be a
[46:40] priority for Council and it's a
[46:42] challenge to respond as quickly as we
[46:43] would like to and this will allow us to
[46:45] do so okay thanks for clarifying that in
[46:47] my head for some reason I was thinking
[46:49] it was about tracking incidents or
[46:51] issues but I remember the conversation
[46:53] but to to that point it actually gives
[46:55] us direct connection to the province for
[46:56] cion data which currently takes a very
[46:59] long time to obtain and now we have
[47:01] realtime connection okay thank
[47:06] you understand Phillip you have a
[47:12] question thank you thank you I do it's
[47:15] about the guide rail inspection um is
[47:21] this generally not guide rails that are
[47:24] part of bridge
[47:25] structures because I'm under the
[47:27] understanding that's usually done
[47:28] through the OS study so is this are
[47:30] these other guide
[47:33] rails through you warden so typically or
[47:36] generally yes um the answer would be yes
[47:38] so right now in order to build our
[47:40] Capital plan in a in a structured way
[47:42] that's not only considering condition
[47:45] and improvements but also upgrades um so
[47:47] we do that for roads we do that for
[47:49] Bridges we do not do that for guide rail
[47:50] we typically respond when there's damage
[47:53] um I've spoken with several members
[47:55] around this table over the years where
[47:56] the the standards for guide rail have
[47:58] changed we have no plan to respond to it
[48:00] it's simply we try to maintain what's in
[48:01] place for as long as possible um until
[48:04] it can't be anymore and at that point we
[48:05] may upgrade to a steel post and and um
[48:08] cable and those types of systems that I
[48:10] think some of you have seen around the
[48:11] county so this will give us a similar
[48:14] sort of capital plan for how to actually
[48:16] handle it in a in a more proactive
[48:18] manner instead of us simply responding
[48:20] to
[48:24] damage anyone else
[48:27] seeing none carry on
[48:34] Amy okay shifting to Capital we will be
[48:37] drawing down on the capital asset fund
[48:40] uh for operations and Fleet over the
[48:41] next few years on the bottom
[48:44] line next Slide the there's a prior
[48:48] carry forward
[48:50] um essentially this is kind of the
[48:52] difference between where we thought we
[48:54] were going to be at the end of 2024 and
[48:56] we actually may end up cuz it was still
[48:59] an estimate when we calculated the
[49:00] numbers but the $1 million is made up of
[49:04] um we have a sign maker of $10,000 that
[49:06] we're we didn't do in 2024 we're
[49:09] carrying it in 2025 guide rails of
[49:11] 75,000 interior Renovations of 50 uh
[49:14] Transformer and electrical work of
[49:17] 450,000 a rooftop unit of 15,000 carbon
[49:20] monoxide detector of 10 Trails of 25 two
[49:23] pickups of
[49:25] 120 engineering equipment of 49 and then
[49:28] welcome signs of
[49:30] 200,000 and then that equals about
[49:33] $11,000 and the difference is just some
[49:36] surpluses from completed
[49:41] projects there's a slight decrease next
[49:44] slide in the capital Levy over 2024
[49:48] before it starts um increasing and other
[49:51] Revenue includes um yeah other Revenue
[49:54] includes $150,000 for the Avil of older
[49:57] equipment as well as the $725,000 we saw
[50:00] being transferred from
[50:04] operating next debt financing is by far
[50:07] the largest number we will see in
[50:09] contributions the amounts in 2025 and
[50:11] 2026 relate to the new Operation Center
[50:14] and a new sand salt Dome and Primrose it
[50:17] should be noted that the future
[50:18] debenture costs for the building will be
[50:20] offset by development charges and we
[50:22] will also certainly be seeking any
[50:24] grants that we can apply to bring down
[50:26] the amount we have to
[50:29] borrow moving on to the capital work
[50:32] plan the capital work plan includes over
[50:34] $24 Million worth of work for 2025 with
[50:38] 3.5 million in regular work and over $20
[50:41] million we will consider in New Capital
[50:45] Investments some of the highlights of
[50:47] the different categories next SL under L
[50:50] improvements we have ongoing replacement
[50:52] of guide rails and intersection lighting
[50:54] of 150 Grand
[50:56] next
[50:57] one and the county welcome signs uh it's
[51:00] a $1 million project that we're
[51:02] spreading over five
[51:06] years won go
[51:11] down buildings we have extensive
[51:13] electrical work um to allow future
[51:17] charging of electric vehicles of
[51:20] $625,000 we have interior upgrades
[51:22] including updates the kitchen washrooms
[51:24] and storage space of 170 design work for
[51:27] replacement of the sand salt Doms of
[51:35] $800,000 just on the welome
[51:39] signs just on the welcome signs uh did
[51:42] we not go through a process of uh of
[51:44] different
[51:46] signage in recent
[51:52] memory Scott I think we're going to look
[51:55] at you on this one
[51:57] through you Warden uh absolutely so that
[51:59] was um facilitated through the economic
[52:02] development team and we started to
[52:05] install signs around the county and then
[52:07] there was a slight pause due to some
[52:09] unforeseen circumstances and we're
[52:11] simply picking it up again so there's
[52:12] several locations where we haven't
[52:14] installed the signs that Council
[52:15] ultimately supported at that point in
[52:18] time
[52:23] thank U moving on to equipment and
[52:25] Machinery we have have um GPS and data
[52:28] collector to be replaced for $49,000
[52:31] which is carried over from 2024 and
[52:33] replacement of a loader for
[52:35] 400,000 you might have noticed in your
[52:37] slide deck the vehicle section I seem to
[52:40] missed that um apologies on that we do
[52:43] have purchasing two snow plows at
[52:46] $440,000 each we have one patrol truck
[52:49] and two engineering trucks one of the
[52:51] engineering trucks is being carried over
[52:53] from 2024 it's already been ordered we
[52:55] just haven't received it yet
[52:57] and then the new capital Investments of
[52:59] course is the purchase of land and
[53:00] construction of the new Southern
[53:02] operations um Center cost or estimate
[53:05] just hang on there's a question the the
[53:08] vehicle one that's one of the questions
[53:10] I had asked and I did get confirmation
[53:12] just want to point out those are all
[53:13] Replacements there's no increase in any
[53:15] fleets at all and no yeah okay
[53:18] thanks uh sorry the costs um on the new
[53:21] Operation Center as we we will keep
[53:24] probably reiterate is their estimates
[53:26] only we be further refined as we move
[53:28] into that
[53:34] project okay summarizing operations in
[53:37] Fleet the status quo budget is
[53:40] 5.3% when you add in capital that
[53:42] becomes 4.8 which you won't actually see
[53:45] on any of these charts because I just
[53:47] didn't have time to switch them around
[53:48] so that you could see it um but with
[53:51] proposed additions the total increase is
[53:55] 5.55% and any other questions or
[53:58] anything for operations and
[54:01] Fleet none okay moving on to
[54:07] engineering other
[54:09] Revenue revenues are down $21,000 or
[54:14] 4.71% it includes this is essentially a
[54:18] transfer of capital transfer to Capital
[54:22] of Staff time spent on capital projects
[54:24] we've reduced it to better reflect with
[54:26] has actually been occurring other
[54:28] Revenue also includes load permits of
[54:30] $50,000 and aggregate royalty revenue of
[54:33] about 80
[54:34] grand next
[54:36] slide engineering is one of the few
[54:39] divisions where the expenditures are
[54:41] actually going down
[54:45] 3.95% these salaries and benefits
[54:48] include five full-time positions in two
[54:50] summer students and the larger increase
[54:53] than regular is because they did add a
[54:55] position in 2024 and this is the full
[54:57] full year impact of
[54:59] it other highlights include within admin
[55:02] in office
[55:04] oh sorry councilor ni yeah I may just be
[55:09] jumping ahead to the next slide but one
[55:10] of the things you've got down for for
[55:12] this is the road rationalization study
[55:15] and I just I I had I had thought we'd
[55:18] finish that Scott is there more work to
[55:20] be done on that study I thought we not
[55:22] only finished it but we approved it
[55:27] uh through you warden so yes the study
[55:29] is complete it was adopted by Council
[55:32] staff were left to update the numbers
[55:36] which is what uh our Treasurer noted
[55:38] earlier that um we have yet to update
[55:40] our 10-year Capital plan because we want
[55:41] to have current numbers and there's also
[55:43] some funds being carried for setting up
[55:46] any agreements that are necessary with
[55:47] any of the local tier municipalities
[55:50] where we need to have them in
[55:53] place thank you the total we have set as
[55:56] is
[55:57] $65,000 which includes the legal fees as
[55:59] Scott had said um also in a minute
[56:02] office is $75,000 carry over for the
[56:04] climate risk assessment which started at
[56:07] the end of last year vehicles and
[56:09] Equipment uh will see a slight decrease
[56:13] as uh we transition to electric
[56:20] vehicles next SL yeah did that
[56:23] one oh go back transfers thank you
[56:27] there's less Reliance on reserves in
[56:29] 2025 which makes sense with the admitt
[56:31] and office expenses that dropped um from
[56:35] 2024 we are using transfer from rate
[56:38] stabilization to offset the cost of the
[56:40] road rationalization study and the
[56:41] climate risk
[56:45] assessment proposed additions the net
[56:47] for 2025 is only
[56:49] $16,000 which slowly increases in coming
[56:53] years
[56:56] uh next slide so I do have in my notes
[57:00] the entire kind of summary that is in
[57:02] the package for each of the different
[57:04] positions I'm happy to read that over
[57:06] again or if everybody's okay I can just
[57:09] skip it and get to the financial
[57:12] details okay I think they're okay okay
[57:16] um so the additional cost for this
[57:18] position uh to start in March of 2025 is
[57:21] $98,000 for salaries and benefits uh
[57:25] with an additional 14 ,000 in support
[57:27] cost for year one and then 11,000 year
[57:29] after the annualized cost of the
[57:31] position is
[57:33] $119,500 and the cost is offset by new
[57:37] fees for application Revenue estimated
[57:39] at $100,000 shown there under new to
[57:43] 2025 within the previously committed we
[57:46] have a as part of the ongoing digital
[57:49] modernization project new asset and
[57:51] maintenance management software programs
[57:54] will be implemented in 2025 to allow for
[57:56] better data management and Reporting the
[57:59] annual fees are for part of the year
[58:00] only it will be offset by reserves over
[58:03] several years it be as we phase in that
[58:05] the cost the impact on the levy the
[58:08] total annual fees are approximately
[58:10] $120,000 with a net cost of
[58:13] 2025 of
[58:14] 13,360 to
[58:16] engineering I have exactly the same
[58:19] notes for both
[58:21] [Music]
[58:22] um courthouse uh for for facilities
[58:26] because facilities is sharing this and
[58:27] then also under Finance because we're
[58:29] we're using it so we're splitting the
[58:30] cost 40 40
[58:33] 20% under new to 2025 is the um planning
[58:38] and revenue fees that are anticipated
[58:41] through updates the bylaw fee the
[58:43] intention is that the revenue will
[58:44] offset that new position related to the
[58:46] application
[58:48] review um and then the second phase of
[58:50] the climate risk assessment we have in
[58:52] there to be funded from rate
[58:54] stabilization any questions on the new
[58:56] items in
[58:58] engineering councelor
[59:01] Taylor through you Warden I just think
[59:03] it'd be a good idea if we quickly talked
[59:05] again about this position in particular
[59:07] and if Mr Burns could just chat again
[59:11] about what and why and it's important
[59:14] because this is a big part of the budget
[59:17] and I'd like to talk about each of them
[59:19] as we go through uh
[59:24] today um through you w so this one's
[59:27] pretty pretty straightforward um you
[59:30] you've heard us talk over the years how
[59:32] development is increasing and we have to
[59:34] perform development review and it's
[59:37] something that generally is done um by
[59:39] the engineering team somewhat side of
[59:41] desk we do have one person who is
[59:43] dedicated to that and um the manager
[59:45] also spends an extreme amount of time
[59:48] working on it as well and simply put uh
[59:51] with the resources we have we cannot um
[59:53] deliver within a reasonable time frame a
[59:55] qual quality um set of comments so we
[59:59] put some work into looking at what we
[1:00:02] would need which would be this uh
[1:00:04] individual this this position being
[1:00:05] filled and put a fair bit of work the
[1:00:08] team did a lot of work in the uh fees
[1:00:10] bylaw to ensure that we're capturing
[1:00:11] fees that previously were not included
[1:00:14] and the $100,000 that's included in the
[1:00:16] budget as a revenue is is a conservative
[1:00:18] number um our estimates go as high as
[1:00:21] 187,000 somewhere in that ballpark
[1:00:23] depending on the amount of development
[1:00:25] that we're seeing so we do expect this
[1:00:28] position to essentially be paid for
[1:00:30] through the work that it's doing and
[1:00:32] also providing a better service with
[1:00:34] respect to um turnaround because one of
[1:00:36] the delays um certainly I've said this
[1:00:38] before and not ashamed to to state it
[1:00:40] that um we we become part of the the
[1:00:43] delay in that overall um development
[1:00:45] application process for folks and we
[1:00:47] want to provide a better
[1:00:50] service just just a question Scott the
[1:00:53] the person who would fill this job has
[1:00:56] what kind of skills or
[1:00:59] background through you Warden uh they
[1:01:01] would very likely be a certified
[1:01:03] engineering technologist or an engineer
[1:01:05] who has background potentially in Urban
[1:01:08] Design um and maybe development
[1:01:11] construction those types of things so
[1:01:13] they'd be very well versed in the
[1:01:15] science behind development as well as
[1:01:17] the actual inner workings of
[1:01:19] construction and those types of things
[1:01:20] so similar skill sets to what we have in
[1:01:24] house we just don't have frankly enough
[1:01:26] of it
[1:01:30] okay anything further
[1:01:32] Todd I'm just thinking again and while
[1:01:35] we're all here whenever we go through
[1:01:37] the salary piece um you know it's such a
[1:01:41] personal thing but at the same time when
[1:01:43] I think about what you just described as
[1:01:45] who's qualified and then the
[1:01:46] difficulties we've had getting people
[1:01:50] again I always question are we going to
[1:01:52] get
[1:01:53] somebody because it feels like we're low
[1:02:00] um we shall see we're we're we're
[1:02:03] hopeful I mean we put a lot of energy
[1:02:05] into reviewing what compensation should
[1:02:07] be and and the total compensation
[1:02:09] package that the county can provide and
[1:02:12] um I think it's fair to say I'm looking
[1:02:14] I'm looking at uh director Thompson that
[1:02:16] it's fair to say that we are much more
[1:02:18] competitive than than we once were and
[1:02:21] therefore we are hopeful yes
[1:02:28] yes ran if I can just add through you um
[1:02:31] Warden um just want to remind folks that
[1:02:35] from um from a wage perspective all of
[1:02:38] our positions go through a formal job
[1:02:40] evaluation process um and through that
[1:02:43] job evaluation process it gets graded
[1:02:46] and then there's a wage that's that's
[1:02:47] attached to it so it's not really up to
[1:02:50] um department heads to determine uh
[1:02:53] salary we do have a formalized process
[1:02:55] for that
[1:02:59] anything
[1:03:01] further yes Todd ever so quickly what
[1:03:04] will we do if we determine that we're
[1:03:07] low in the marketplace do we have
[1:03:09] another fund or how do we go about that
[1:03:11] what do we
[1:03:12] do Rohan do you want to answer
[1:03:17] that so uh great question for you chair
[1:03:21] um so there's a couple of options uh for
[1:03:25] us to take take a look at uh one would
[1:03:27] be a review and revision of the actual
[1:03:30] um
[1:03:32] job um the job description uh to see if
[1:03:36] whether or not all the required skills
[1:03:39] qualifications all that sort of stuff
[1:03:41] really ma match what we're what we're
[1:03:44] requiring uh so that's that's one thing
[1:03:46] for us to look at um the other thing I
[1:03:49] think more broadly uh for the county to
[1:03:53] to take a look at Council to take a look
[1:03:55] at um is sort of the the the the
[1:03:58] challenge that we're up against in terms
[1:04:00] of competition right for talent and so
[1:04:03] folks will recall that uh when we did
[1:04:05] our last wage market review um Council
[1:04:09] approved that um against our comparators
[1:04:12] to to come in uh at the 55th percentile
[1:04:15] and I understand that that um
[1:04:17] historically was above uh what the
[1:04:20] county uh normally did I believe we came
[1:04:22] in normally at the 50th percentile um
[1:04:24] and so um in this in this budget package
[1:04:28] uh proposal this year uh folks will note
[1:04:30] that there
[1:04:32] is uh monies in in the budget to to
[1:04:35] conduct another wage market review this
[1:04:37] year we had agreed to do that on a on a
[1:04:39] four-year period uh but Council um at
[1:04:43] that point in time will have the
[1:04:44] opportunity to decide if whether or not
[1:04:46] we want to continue uh at the 55th
[1:04:48] percentile or if Council would like to
[1:04:52] um increase that percentile um to from
[1:04:55] to help make the county be a little bit
[1:04:57] more competitive from a total
[1:05:00] compensation perspective in the uh
[1:05:02] Recruitment and talent uh
[1:05:05] peace councelor
[1:05:07] McAn um thanks for that answer you may
[1:05:10] have addressed my question I'm just
[1:05:11] going to ask it anyway just in case um
[1:05:13] so a lot of employers will have pay
[1:05:15] bands right with uh a minimal salary and
[1:05:18] an upper salary and then there's room
[1:05:21] for the Department to negotiate in
[1:05:23] between um the the figure so this is a
[1:05:27] general question but I just want to use
[1:05:29] the development reviewer as an example
[1:05:30] so the
[1:05:55] that's fine I'm just trying to wrap my
[1:05:57] head around
[1:06:00] process um I can actually answer that
[1:06:02] question we budget at the middle of the
[1:06:04] grade because that typically in it's
[1:06:07] it's a guess right sometimes the people
[1:06:09] come in lower some people come in higher
[1:06:11] so when we budget we budget the middle
[1:06:12] and then in the next year we adjust
[1:06:14] depending on where they
[1:06:19] land councelor Nick yeah I appreciated
[1:06:22] councelor Taylor's questions but I
[1:06:24] thought I heard at the beginning
[1:06:26] that he declared a conflict of interest
[1:06:27] if any subject of salaries comes up
[1:06:30] didn't isn't that what you said Todd or
[1:06:33] maybe I misheard but I thought I heard
[1:06:35] him say he had a conflict of
[1:06:38] interest I thank you for bringing that
[1:06:40] forward I do have a conflict of interest
[1:06:43] however I think over um certain
[1:06:46] positions it's my right as a counselor
[1:06:47] to ask questions about hiring so I will
[1:06:50] do so if you'd like to file something
[1:06:52] you're welcome to do so I I just I
[1:06:58] miss when there's a vote I will not be
[1:07:01] voting on salary
[1:07:03] increases Sonia can you give us some
[1:07:05] clarity just on this so we're
[1:07:08] clear uh as
[1:07:10] to whether this is an issue at this
[1:07:14] moment what is an issue the conflict of
[1:07:17] interest in In fairness Madam I I
[1:07:20] don't think that's a fair question to
[1:07:21] ask
[1:07:26] Warden I think it's it's up to me and if
[1:07:28] people in the room disagree with the way
[1:07:30] I'm conducting myself they can they'd
[1:07:32] have to file with the Integrity
[1:07:34] commissioner but my intention is to
[1:07:36] continue to ask questions and
[1:07:37] participate in it when there's a vote
[1:07:39] you will not be particip there vote I
[1:07:41] will not be
[1:07:42] voting
[1:07:46] okay can we um keep going then any more
[1:07:50] questions on this
[1:07:54] person just a quick question on what the
[1:07:56] annualized salary is because there's two
[1:07:58] different numbers the one on the slide
[1:07:59] deck is 112 and the one in the budget
[1:08:02] documents is 119 is the 119 the accurate
[1:08:07] figure the 112 on the slide deck is the
[1:08:10] cost for
[1:08:11] 20125 and the 119 is the annualized cost
[1:08:15] so 2025 is only the 112 is for Mark from
[1:08:19] March to December okay understood thank
[1:08:21] you
[1:08:26] else no go ahead then
[1:08:29] Amy okay uh so no other questions on the
[1:08:32] proposed addition so we can move on to
[1:08:36] Capital similar to other divisions we
[1:08:39] see a value of the capital asset fund
[1:08:41] decrease over the next few years before
[1:08:42] it starts to increase
[1:08:46] again next
[1:08:49] Slide the prior year carry forward
[1:08:52] includes
[1:08:53] $320,000 for a covert that we shifted um
[1:08:56] into a future year some payment
[1:08:57] preservation work and design work for
[1:09:00] future stru future structure replacement
[1:09:03] and
[1:09:03] Roads and the balance of savings from
[1:09:06] 2024
[1:09:09] projects moving on to Capital
[1:09:11] contributions engineering is one of the
[1:09:13] very few divisions that have dedicated
[1:09:15] government transfers for Capital we have
[1:09:18] included Canada community building fund
[1:09:21] of
[1:09:22] 2,699 25 and the antario Community
[1:09:25] infrastructure fund of sorry
[1:09:30] $734 um we were actually expecting a
[1:09:33] decrease in the oif and we did get an
[1:09:35] increase and we included that in the
[1:09:38] budget other
[1:09:40] [Music]
[1:09:46] contributions no too far oh go back up
[1:09:50] one more it's touchy um other Revenue
[1:09:54] includes contributions from from
[1:09:55] Developers for second line and duff duff
[1:09:57] Road 109 realignment we have transfers
[1:10:00] from rate stabilization incl rate
[1:10:02] stabilization Reserve included for the
[1:10:04] environmental assessment of duffen Road
[1:10:06] 109 and lastly we have some development
[1:10:08] charges for duffen Road
[1:10:10] 25 moving on to Capital work we have
[1:10:13] $1.1 million planned work for
[1:10:18] engineering next slide this includes uh
[1:10:22] carryover the environmental assessment
[1:10:23] for duffen Road 109 of 600,000 which is
[1:10:26] to be funded from reserves as the actual
[1:10:29] cost is still to be determined the
[1:10:30] design and investigative work for second
[1:10:32] line and Def Road 109 realignment of
[1:10:35] 1.05 million design and invest
[1:10:38] investigative work of Road 109 for 2026
[1:10:41] work and resurfacing of 13.7 km of duon
[1:10:45] Road 25 at a cost of $6.5 million this6
[1:10:49] and a half does include a million do
[1:10:51] approximately a million dollars for the
[1:10:52] addition of buffer Bike Line bike
[1:10:57] planes structures includes work on uh
[1:11:01] four culverts at a cost of 2.38 million
[1:11:04] futuree design work of
[1:11:06] $132,000 and small structural repairs of
[1:11:10] 102 just a question Amy do you think uh
[1:11:14] Premier Ford will be coming after our
[1:11:15] bike
[1:11:19] lane I'm not answering
[1:11:22] that um summarizing engineers wrench has
[1:11:26] a
[1:11:32] question thanks um I I actually I
[1:11:35] actually have a serious question about
[1:11:37] bike Lanes um and I'm curious Beyond 25
[1:11:42] being a county
[1:11:44] road is is there could could uh Somebody
[1:11:47] explain why we would put bike
[1:11:51] Lanes there and not on another road that
[1:11:55] perhaps has less traffic and or provides
[1:11:59] much more
[1:12:01] Scenic uh views and and a
[1:12:09] ride Mr Burns would you like to answer
[1:12:12] this glad to um through you warden
[1:12:16] so um it's it's kind of a point of you
[1:12:19] need to start somewhere so years ago
[1:12:21] when we started doing the pave shoulder
[1:12:23] program which can be used for multiple
[1:12:24] things including cycling there would be
[1:12:27] sort of seemingly random parts of the
[1:12:29] road Network where you happen to be
[1:12:30] doing Capital work and you would build
[1:12:32] the shoulders out in line with the
[1:12:33] standard of the day that was articulated
[1:12:35] through the duffing County active
[1:12:37] Transportation Trails plan so we did
[1:12:40] that now it's starts to look a fair bit
[1:12:42] more normal because those things are
[1:12:43] actually interconnected amongst one
[1:12:44] another this particular piece and even
[1:12:47] the additional width is coming from the
[1:12:49] approved Transportation master plan that
[1:12:51] came through as part of the U Municipal
[1:12:53] comprehensive review that you may recall
[1:12:55] and it gave us guidance as to where we
[1:12:57] should be doing certain types of work um
[1:13:00] around active transportation and this is
[1:13:02] one of those examples so it is from Duff
[1:13:05] from Road 10 to 89 so it is kind of an
[1:13:07] isolated portion but that's a portion of
[1:13:09] road that we are working on that calls
[1:13:10] for this and therefore it is the right
[1:13:12] time to do it um but it is important I'm
[1:13:15] glad that council is aware that this
[1:13:17] additional work is going to cost
[1:13:20] approximately a million dollars on top
[1:13:22] of what that that project would would
[1:13:24] regularly cost we're going from
[1:13:25] approximately a 9 M wide platform to a
[1:13:28] 12 or 12 and 1/2 meter wide platform um
[1:13:31] so this is kind of the first piece of or
[1:13:34] element of the uh Transportation master
[1:13:36] plan that we're implementing and I'm I'm
[1:13:38] I'm glad that everybody's becoming aware
[1:13:39] of it because if anybody wants to have
[1:13:41] any further discussion on it now would
[1:13:42] be the
[1:13:46] time councelor
[1:13:49] Garretts Phil are you finished or would
[1:13:52] you like to carry
[1:13:53] on he if if I might just a clarification
[1:13:58] the the cost isn't
[1:14:01] really my biggest
[1:14:04] concern it's it's whether or not that's
[1:14:06] the most appropriate place to put a bike
[1:14:09] lane and I'm going to reference a
[1:14:12] conversation that we had in 2024 about
[1:14:15] traffic in meanon with horse and Buggies
[1:14:18] and where it's going um and I I'm just
[1:14:22] I'm just not sure if putting a bike lane
[1:14:24] on a County Road from a safety
[1:14:27] perspective is the best
[1:14:30] idea go ahead scun through you Warden um
[1:14:34] so so that would
[1:14:36] be um what would be driving the design
[1:14:38] here so I I'll try to describe it as
[1:14:41] best I can so you'll have your your
[1:14:42] typical traveled portion of the road
[1:14:44] with the center line and the white fog
[1:14:46] lines um so if we look at one side of
[1:14:49] road you've got your Center Line your
[1:14:50] white fog line and then approximately
[1:14:53] ballpark a meter from there there'll be
[1:14:54] another white line and beyond that white
[1:14:56] line is where the bike lane is so it's
[1:14:58] actually buffered from the the traveled
[1:15:01] portion of the road intentionally such
[1:15:04] that it can function well even in a
[1:15:06] situation where there might be increased
[1:15:08] traffic and that is the standard of the
[1:15:10] day that seems to be working in many
[1:15:12] locations because there is a real push
[1:15:13] to have
[1:15:15] interconnectivity um between settlement
[1:15:18] areas essentially everywhere and
[1:15:20] depending on what the road is um you'll
[1:15:23] see that kind of a structure come out
[1:15:24] whereas some of them still call for our
[1:15:26] standard pave shoulder width which um
[1:15:29] would be on a lower volume road so in
[1:15:31] short the specific response the geometry
[1:15:34] of the response is in line with um
[1:15:37] contemplation towards safety on that
[1:15:39] particular
[1:15:44] Road okay um councelor Garrett's next
[1:15:47] and then councelor white yeah just just
[1:15:49] quickly for Mr Burns is there a plan
[1:15:51] then in the tenure Capital to do the
[1:15:53] southern portion so that so that it goes
[1:15:56] all the way to Grand Valley yep so so
[1:15:58] through you Warden yes so any time that
[1:16:01] we would and I can't recall you have to
[1:16:02] forgive me I don't remember the all of
[1:16:04] the details of the maps that are within
[1:16:05] the transportation master plan but our
[1:16:08] intent would certainly be to not leave
[1:16:10] it as an island and I am 100% confident
[1:16:14] that the transportation master plan did
[1:16:15] not ask for it to be an island so it it
[1:16:18] it will be over time you'll see that
[1:16:20] whole Road be built
[1:16:23] out thank you white thankk you um I mean
[1:16:27] I struggle a little bit with this given
[1:16:30] the section I mean 10 10 to 89 I travel
[1:16:33] that road a lot I mean Philip's right I
[1:16:37] mean it's not the right spot for one I
[1:16:39] don't think and I don't think you would
[1:16:41] ever get any use or anybody would take
[1:16:43] use of it and when you look at if if
[1:16:46] you're talking about interconnectivity
[1:16:48] of
[1:16:49] communities there's there's no Community
[1:16:51] to interconnect to going north out of
[1:16:54] there you go up and you go up as far as
[1:16:56] 89 there's no communities along 89
[1:16:58] unless you're in shelburn I would think
[1:17:00] that money would be better spent the the
[1:17:03] the nice bike ride and the where you
[1:17:06] would get a lot of use would be south of
[1:17:08] 10 down to 109 um which is down the road
[1:17:12] somewhere I I so I struggle with that
[1:17:14] and and I struggle with it because we
[1:17:17] just there's been a fair bit of County
[1:17:19] Road work done in mton recently knowing
[1:17:22] the issues we have around menites and
[1:17:24] whatnot and none of that type of stuff
[1:17:26] was considered for those stretches so
[1:17:30] you know and even up there I would I
[1:17:33] would struggle with some of it in some
[1:17:34] of the areas but not in others so I I
[1:17:36] don't I don't know if that's the right
[1:17:38] spot to spend a million dollars on a on
[1:17:40] a bike Lan
[1:17:44] thanks go ahead uh through you warden so
[1:17:46] so certainly and that I'm glad we're
[1:17:48] talking but it again the the reason that
[1:17:50] it's that piece is because we're there
[1:17:52] doing Capital anyhow so to come back to
[1:17:55] it at some future date would be um much
[1:17:59] more costly it wouldn't be the same
[1:18:01] quality um etc etc so if we were going
[1:18:04] to do it we would we would do it when
[1:18:06] we're Paving that out and ultimately
[1:18:08] over time the whole Road would receive
[1:18:11] that treatment so it is simply a
[1:18:13] starting point in isolation does it look
[1:18:15] odd yes if we left it simply as that
[1:18:18] Island yes that would be a strange
[1:18:20] decision but that is not the intent but
[1:18:23] certainly if Council wanted to change
[1:18:25] the direction on something as to whether
[1:18:27] or not we're building out 25 um we could
[1:18:30] do that this is simply the the starting
[1:18:31] point as far as interconnectivity goes
[1:18:34] um you know I mentioned settlement areas
[1:18:35] and those types of things it go it goes
[1:18:36] farther than that there are a lot of
[1:18:38] people the the networks for cycling go
[1:18:40] far beyond simply you know Orangeville
[1:18:42] to shelburn for a lot of people and I
[1:18:44] think that's the overall intent for
[1:18:46] things is to have the bulk of um sort of
[1:18:49] easy access routes accessible for
[1:18:52] cycling um and this is simply part of
[1:18:53] that so again this came through all the
[1:18:55] consultation from the TMP um was adopted
[1:18:58] by Council which is why this is here and
[1:18:59] and again I'm very glad that we're
[1:19:01] talking about
[1:19:02] it councelor white thanks thanks Warden
[1:19:06] um yeah I I I understand the logic and I
[1:19:09] don't disagree with any of the logic but
[1:19:11] where I struggle with is the life cycle
[1:19:13] of that pavement is what 20 years going
[1:19:15] to be
[1:19:18] 20 um with with the the way that we're
[1:19:21] taking care of our roads now we may see
[1:19:22] some roads that go beyond that yeah um
[1:19:25] for a period of time we're seeing 12 to
[1:19:26] 15 years and now we're we're we're
[1:19:28] expecting to see 20 25 years maybe even
[1:19:30] more in some cases particularly because
[1:19:32] we have preventative maintenance
[1:19:34] programs when we're doing multi-lift
[1:19:36] asphalt we can go back and the next
[1:19:37] Capital cost is far less because it's a
[1:19:39] a peel and pave as opposed to a full
[1:19:41] reconstruction Etc so that's a long
[1:19:43] answer but so the point of my question
[1:19:45] would be if we're assuming 20-year
[1:19:47] lifespan I don't I don't see a need for
[1:19:49] it 20 years from now either so you know
[1:19:52] that's sort of where my thought process
[1:19:54] is with that just my thought councilor
[1:19:58] mlan yeah thank you um and I can
[1:20:01] appreciate the position you're in Scott
[1:20:03] because I think uh the reason that you
[1:20:06] have put this in the budget was because
[1:20:08] it went through the MCR process so it
[1:20:10] was informed through a process that was
[1:20:13] also approved by this Council so um
[1:20:16] you're not pulling this out of your hat
[1:20:17] you're going by a plan that's been
[1:20:18] already approved so I want to recognize
[1:20:21] the position you're in but I do I do
[1:20:23] agree with the comments that were made
[1:20:24] that this
[1:20:25] um on first blush doesn't seem to make a
[1:20:28] lot of sense in terms of where we might
[1:20:29] want to allocate our resources from a
[1:20:31] priority standpoint um I know that when
[1:20:33] we've had broad discussions not just
[1:20:36] with you but with with everyone we
[1:20:38] talked about widening roads where there
[1:20:40] are more slow moving vehicles and there
[1:20:43] there was a the question was always
[1:20:44] raised around whether we had the funding
[1:20:46] to do it um and here we've got some
[1:20:48] funding to do a large stretch that to me
[1:20:51] doesn't seem to um have a lot of slow
[1:20:53] moving vehicles on it so I would agree
[1:20:55] with councelor white Council wrench that
[1:20:58] perhaps there might be an opportunity to
[1:20:59] save a little bit of money on this
[1:21:01] project um I agree I don't even see in
[1:21:04] in 20 years or 10 years that we would
[1:21:06] even need to go back and add this Lane
[1:21:08] in but um I think this is one
[1:21:10] opportunity where we could potentially
[1:21:12] reinvest into other areas of the
[1:21:15] county thank you Amy um if I may I just
[1:21:21] uh wanted to say because of gas tax
[1:21:24] money and development charges if we were
[1:21:27] to reduce this project by $1 million we
[1:21:29] would only save $100,000 of tax
[1:21:35] levy so
[1:21:38] Garretts but Amy if we were to use it in
[1:21:41] another location that would we would
[1:21:44] realize
[1:21:46] the rather than cutting it it it just
[1:21:49] switching locations which I think is
[1:21:51] what some people are suggesting that
[1:21:52] would
[1:21:55] the gas tax could still be used for that
[1:21:57] project uh yes it could um we only have
[1:22:02] this is the only project we have gas tax
[1:22:04] applied to in 2025 it's the only project
[1:22:07] but yeah we could use the gas tax in
[1:22:09] future years I understand the concerns I
[1:22:12] understand why we're doing it like the
[1:22:13] efficiency of doing it while we're doing
[1:22:14] the road work so I think that's great
[1:22:17] where I struggle a little bit is doing
[1:22:19] that in the same year we're we're doing
[1:22:21] an active Transportation master plan
[1:22:24] because it's
[1:22:25] and I understand why you're doing it but
[1:22:26] but it could be that the trans the
[1:22:28] active Transportation master
[1:22:29] plan uh doesn't see a need for for bike
[1:22:34] Lanes in that
[1:22:35] location um and then there is the
[1:22:38] council mlim brought up and I I did get
[1:22:40] a nudge and a whisper from counselor
[1:22:42] Hall there there have been other
[1:22:43] locations where uh safety concerns
[1:22:47] related to Traffic such as the slow
[1:22:49] moving vehicles and some
[1:22:51] sidewalks um
[1:22:54] potentially could the money could be
[1:22:56] used for some of those projects so I'm
[1:22:58] struggling with this one but the I just
[1:23:01] um with can you speak to why we would do
[1:23:04] it ahead of the active Transportation
[1:23:07] master
[1:23:10] plan uh through you warden so the
[1:23:13] transportation master plan touched
[1:23:17] on primary routes I I forget the exact
[1:23:21] terminology but generally looked at some
[1:23:22] primary routes for active transportation
[1:23:25] um that would then inform further
[1:23:28] details in a reconstruction of a new
[1:23:32] active Transportation plan so the
[1:23:34] intention there would be that the
[1:23:36] elements from the Transportation master
[1:23:37] plan would stay um and it would it would
[1:23:41] build on that of course that is to the
[1:23:44] discretion of of council absolutely I
[1:23:46] just want to make it clear also that if
[1:23:47] we choose to not do this particular
[1:23:50] piece we are actively changing the
[1:23:52] routing of the current trans
[1:23:54] Transportation master plan and the
[1:23:56] vision that it was built on which at
[1:23:58] this moment I can't recite all of the
[1:24:00] parameters that it came to its
[1:24:02] conclusions on but it would have it
[1:24:04] would have included a look at local a
[1:24:06] look at provincial look at all of these
[1:24:08] things to try to build a fabric and if
[1:24:11] we start to make if we make a decision
[1:24:14] tonight on this I just want to make sure
[1:24:16] that we're not subjectively applying
[1:24:18] those those studies so maybe it means a
[1:24:20] fundamental shift to that particular
[1:24:22] route maybe it's off I'm not exactly
[1:24:24] sure how we deal with that maybe that's
[1:24:25] a future discussion but it does have the
[1:24:28] potential to change a lot of things that
[1:24:30] we thought were
[1:24:31] decided I just I do I am hearing some
[1:24:34] significant concern on this item though
[1:24:36] could I just add one other thing with
[1:24:38] just anecdotally I think it will be used
[1:24:41] well used because you know living in the
[1:24:44] area there there are a lot of bike users
[1:24:47] east west across County Road 10 that do
[1:24:50] go uh North I don't know where they're
[1:24:52] going to in the north but they do go
[1:24:53] north on
[1:24:54] 125 so so yeah and maybe it's just a
[1:24:57] loop but I I think it will be used like
[1:24:59] it's used the roads used now I don't
[1:25:01] know if the folks from Grand Valley uh
[1:25:03] or if you even have any numbers but you
[1:25:05] you know you do see bikes there so I
[1:25:07] think it'll it will be used but it's I
[1:25:10] have the same concerns as everybody else
[1:25:11] and maybe it's not the best and that's
[1:25:13] where I struggle
[1:25:14] because it's the efficiency of doing it
[1:25:17] when we're doing the road work so I'm
[1:25:18] not I'm
[1:25:21] torn
[1:25:22] Scott um and might it might be a case of
[1:25:25] if you build it they they will come
[1:25:27] which is a lot of you know active
[1:25:28] Transportation but but Warden Herer
[1:25:30] absolutely I'm not I'm not trying to
[1:25:32] just simply defend keep I just want
[1:25:34] Council to be aware of of the domino
[1:25:37] effect that this will create it'll have
[1:25:38] to be an Engaged conversation at some
[1:25:40] point likely through the active
[1:25:42] Transportation plan where we would
[1:25:44] intentionally rejig this particular
[1:25:46] route and acknowledge that we've changed
[1:25:47] it that that that's
[1:25:50] all councelor
[1:25:53] Mills thanks
[1:25:54] more of a technical question just in
[1:25:56] terms of of funding Amy a couple of
[1:25:58] minutes ago you had mentioned that this
[1:25:59] was the only project that that we had
[1:26:01] identified for gas tax dollars so I I
[1:26:05] just want to make make sure I mean if if
[1:26:07] some counselors are thinking that we
[1:26:08] could essentially swap the million
[1:26:10] dollars that's earmarked for this
[1:26:11] project in the draft budget to something
[1:26:14] else which hasn't yet been identified
[1:26:16] this year uh as as as you know being um
[1:26:20] available for for gas tax funding is it
[1:26:23] as easy as doing that or does that mean
[1:26:25] that we would have to bump some other
[1:26:27] project off to next year and and make
[1:26:29] that sort of eligible for gas tax
[1:26:33] dollars uh three you Warden uh the gas
[1:26:36] tax I think we
[1:26:37] have I can't remember it's three years
[1:26:39] or five years to use it so we can bump
[1:26:43] the gas tax money into future years I
[1:26:46] off the top of my head I can't recall
[1:26:48] what is in the 2026 capital budget for
[1:26:51] roads but I know there's not a lot lot
[1:26:54] of different rows the next few years
[1:26:56] because we're focusing on
[1:27:00] 109 okay so so for example say it was
[1:27:03] council's wish to to you know scrap this
[1:27:06] this particular project and to move that
[1:27:07] million dollars to to build a bike lane
[1:27:09] or or expanded with on on another road
[1:27:12] somewhere in the county and the wish
[1:27:13] were to do that this year can we do
[1:27:17] that um through you Warden Mr Burns is
[1:27:20] shaking his head no I I thought that was
[1:27:23] the case I I just don't want anybody
[1:27:25] thinking that it's as simple as just
[1:27:27] moving money from this to something
[1:27:29] else Scott go ahead through you Warden
[1:27:33] it is not that simple that's
[1:27:37] all anything further I think we' pretty
[1:27:40] well beat this one to death oh Bardon
[1:27:43] white I mean counselor white former
[1:27:47] former Warden that guy that guy that
[1:27:49] used to be um I I I don't disagree that
[1:27:53] it's you know it's it's as easy as you
[1:27:55] know just changing a line on a on a
[1:27:57] paper but I also don't agree that if
[1:27:59] it's a project that we don't think
[1:28:00] should move forward that we spend money
[1:28:02] just because somebody gave it to us and
[1:28:05] I think that's one of the things people
[1:28:07] get uh hesitant about when they talk
[1:28:10] about politics at all levels is like you
[1:28:13] know this this this notion that some
[1:28:16] people have that we have money therefore
[1:28:19] we must spend it you know if i' I'd
[1:28:22] rather take that money we can't move it
[1:28:24] out of that project then I'd rather do
[1:28:26] more Lane kilometers of the actual Road
[1:28:29] for example if if we're hamstrung by
[1:28:33] where we can spend it then instead of
[1:28:35] going from 10 North maybe we go down to
[1:28:37] five and go north uh you know with
[1:28:40] actual road work for people to actually
[1:28:43] travel on or something like that I don't
[1:28:45] but I think if we're looking at spending
[1:28:48] it just because we have it I think
[1:28:49] that's the wrong
[1:28:52] approach thank you
[1:28:54] okay let's um how do we proceed here
[1:29:03] Amy oh yes sorry just just point of kind
[1:29:06] of a Clarity if we decided not to do the
[1:29:08] bike lanes and so we that be saving us a
[1:29:10] million dollars we could roll that
[1:29:12] forward to a project NE next
[1:29:18] year right and we wouldn't lose any of
[1:29:20] the tax gas tax yeah absolutely we don't
[1:29:23] have to use all our gas tax each year so
[1:29:26] from my perspective that the discussion
[1:29:28] here is we're thinking that we can
[1:29:30] utilize this
[1:29:31] money uh at a better level higher level
[1:29:34] that's going to be more effective than
[1:29:37] than perhaps on the bike Lanes going up
[1:29:39] from 10 Side Road 289 at this point in
[1:29:43] time so then I I don't know what we do
[1:29:47] to do we need would we need a motion to
[1:29:50] delay that to give direction
[1:29:58] yes thanks Madam Warden uh if Council
[1:30:02] would like to remove the $100,000 from
[1:30:05] the tax levy that's related to this
[1:30:07] project then um just sort of by
[1:30:09] consensus we can we can um do that and
[1:30:12] Amy will keep a running list of all of
[1:30:14] those items and when we've gone through
[1:30:15] the whole budget she will have a list
[1:30:17] with the amounts of each item and then
[1:30:19] at the end you can vote on the total of
[1:30:21] those items rather than making motions
[1:30:23] throughout the proc process it's just a
[1:30:24] little bit easier if uh we keep a
[1:30:27] running total and then you vote on them
[1:30:28] all at the
[1:30:30] end I like that okay okay so we'll we'll
[1:30:35] have that as a as a oh yes Mr
[1:30:39] Burns sorry Warden if I'm becoming a
[1:30:41] nuisance so so I I think if if Council
[1:30:44] wants to do that um great and I think
[1:30:46] what we would do is very likely go back
[1:30:49] to sort of our standard cross-section so
[1:30:51] there would still be a paved shoulder
[1:30:53] but it wouldn't be
[1:30:54] as extensive if that makes sense to
[1:30:57] council because there's multiple reasons
[1:31:00] why you may want to PVE a shoulder side
[1:31:01] from cycling Etc so we'd probably revert
[1:31:03] back to our standard which um you see
[1:31:06] mono on road 18 several other roads um
[1:31:09] so that would probably so you'd still
[1:31:10] see something out there not just to the
[1:31:12] the level at which we were talking when
[1:31:14] we first
[1:31:15] started okay so Amy you've got note then
[1:31:19] all right we'll let Amy carry
[1:31:22] on uh thank you thank you okay so I
[1:31:25] think we left off on
[1:31:27] uh summarizing engineering the status
[1:31:31] quo being
[1:31:32] 3.83% with capital that becomes 1.08 and
[1:31:36] with the proposed additions it's 1.42%
[1:31:39] of course the change we made today is
[1:31:40] not included in these
[1:31:49] numbers climate and energy
[1:31:57] okay climate energy their expenses are
[1:31:59] down $935,000 or 60%
[1:32:04] that is because there's one item in
[1:32:07] admin in one item in Service delivery in
[1:32:11] admin I think that we have actually in
[1:32:14] 2025
[1:32:16] new um they include three full-time
[1:32:19] positions and two contract um summer
[1:32:22] intern positions and salaries and
[1:32:24] benefits are up a little bit extra
[1:32:26] because we have two admin staff and
[1:32:29] operations that we have redistributed
[1:32:30] amongst all the divisions so there's a
[1:32:33] slight increase there because of
[1:32:34] that other
[1:32:37] highlights um advertising promotions and
[1:32:39] special events are
[1:32:41] $30,500 Consulting fees are $25,000 and
[1:32:45] corporate climate training is
[1:32:48] $5,000 there's an aster beside climate
[1:32:52] training because the plan was to have
[1:32:54] the majority of the work done in
[1:32:56] 2024 but due to unforeseen circumstances
[1:32:59] the vendor on the vendor side they were
[1:33:02] not able to get all the work done and
[1:33:04] there's about $7,000 that needs to be
[1:33:06] carried into
[1:33:09] 20205 and because we've already raised
[1:33:11] those those tax dollars in 2024 I'm
[1:33:14] proposing that we adjust the 2025 budget
[1:33:18] for increasing the training to by $7,000
[1:33:22] but also having that being funded from
[1:33:24] the rate stabilization
[1:33:27] Reserve Service delivery includes an
[1:33:30] increase in the rural water quality
[1:33:32] program to $60,000 and support for
[1:33:35] experimental acres and youth climate
[1:33:37] activation Circle which totals
[1:33:43] $224,000 other highlights in it and
[1:33:46] Communications software costs include
[1:33:48] annual fees for energy management
[1:33:49] software of
[1:33:50] $10,000 energy modeling software of ,000
[1:33:54] and Adobe licenses of 3,000 I just
[1:33:56] wanted to talk about the Adobe licenses
[1:33:59] the licensing model for Adobe has
[1:34:01] changed and so there's a lot of
[1:34:03] increases across all um it in a lot of
[1:34:06] Divisions because we now have to pay an
[1:34:07] annual fee whereas we just used to have
[1:34:11] to buy the license and hope it lasts
[1:34:16] forever yeah um the net next Slide the
[1:34:20] net increase uh for proposed additions
[1:34:22] is $888,000 in 2025 most climate and
[1:34:26] energy additions are Project based with
[1:34:29] the exception of the staff which are not
[1:34:30] being proposed until uh
[1:34:35] 2026
[1:34:36] previously
[1:34:40] committed
[1:34:42] sorry yeah I just wanted to note on this
[1:34:45] page and I've already mentioned it to
[1:34:46] Scott that that we're putting in $2
[1:34:48] million for the home retrofit program
[1:34:50] which I think is great the the
[1:34:52] awkwardness is that we can't can't
[1:34:54] publicly announce this program because
[1:34:57] the funding agency hasn't hasn't given
[1:34:59] us permission yet but we are planning to
[1:35:01] do it in next year this this year
[1:35:04] because we have it in the budget the
[1:35:05] part uh I didn't understand if you go to
[1:35:07] the next page where it has the better
[1:35:09] homes Duffer and energy retrofit program
[1:35:11] I got that then down below it has
[1:35:14] buildings retrofit study $200,000 with
[1:35:17] an aster and
[1:35:18] I is that different than than the energy
[1:35:22] R what is this
[1:35:24] $200,000 for building retrofit study Amy
[1:35:28] uh through you Warden that is a that's
[1:35:30] something different and I will talk to
[1:35:32] that when I get to that for sure um but
[1:35:35] the Better Homes Deen energy retrofit
[1:35:37] project it's the project total
[1:35:41] is
[1:35:43] 11 11 and A4 million doar um over four
[1:35:47] years we don't know how much we're going
[1:35:48] to spend each year we've just put in an
[1:35:50] estimate based on the cash flow that
[1:35:51] we've developed with the with um um
[1:35:56] fcm yeah when we can announce it we'll
[1:35:58] announce it and I I think the reason I
[1:36:00] had brought it up with Scott it's going
[1:36:02] to be really important when we announce
[1:36:04] it that I think all of us counselors
[1:36:06] have to sort of be ambassadors to this
[1:36:09] program when we go back to our
[1:36:10] municipalities and let our residents
[1:36:11] know that this program is there and they
[1:36:14] can apply for it and do all kinds of fun
[1:36:17] things but we can't announce it yet no
[1:36:20] okay
[1:36:24] so Amy we've been approved but we can't
[1:36:26] say anything that's right is that
[1:36:33] right maybe we've been approved we don't
[1:36:41] know we are awaiting a formal
[1:36:44] announcement as to who is receiving the
[1:36:48] funding okay so that announcement has
[1:36:51] not been made the official announcement
[1:36:54] through you Warden correct um and we are
[1:36:57] hoping to learn whether or not we are
[1:36:59] successful very very shortly um and the
[1:37:03] plan ultimately should we be successful
[1:37:05] would be to to immediately start
[1:37:07] reaching out to um the local tier
[1:37:09] municipalities to talk about the LIC
[1:37:12] bylaws we have a draft that can be used
[1:37:15] to help get those things through and we
[1:37:17] would be hopeful to have a program up
[1:37:18] and running roughly mid 2025 should we
[1:37:22] be successful
[1:37:24] thank you for that
[1:37:27] Clarity and I just wanted to state that
[1:37:30] this program has zero cost to the county
[1:37:33] other than staff time um it is funded
[1:37:37] there will be a cash flow issue in
[1:37:40] coming years but we're confident we'll
[1:37:42] be able to manage that because people
[1:37:44] who are eligible for the program do have
[1:37:46] 10 years to pay
[1:37:48] back plus
[1:37:50] interest um new to 2025 is that did add
[1:37:53] legal fees just because they have found
[1:37:56] that there's a lot more contracts with
[1:37:58] vendors and different funders that need
[1:37:59] to be reviewed so we've added in $10,000
[1:38:02] for that we have a scheduled update to
[1:38:04] the de climate action plan which will
[1:38:06] merge the duff climate adaptation
[1:38:08] strategy and include a corporate climate
[1:38:10] plan into a single 10-year climate
[1:38:12] Master strategy and action plan of
[1:38:16] $250,000 um we are offsetting that by
[1:38:18] transfer from Reserve rate stabilization
[1:38:21] of $200,000
[1:38:23] based on strong positive results
[1:38:25] residents survey results residents have
[1:38:27] requested a rain barrel subsidy program
[1:38:29] for all residents in duffen County to
[1:38:32] encourage on-site storm water management
[1:38:34] of
[1:38:35] $25,000 the 20 the town of Orangeville
[1:38:37] already provides the service to its
[1:38:38] residents so the county program would be
[1:38:40] extended to residents of the whole
[1:38:43] County uh there's a small amount for new
[1:38:46] training
[1:38:47] software to support online climate
[1:38:49] training available to all staff the
[1:38:52] building retrofit study of
[1:38:55] $200,000 is to be offset um by transfer
[1:38:59] fir rate civilization the study will
[1:39:01] provide a detailed costing plan and
[1:39:03] business case for deep energy retrofits
[1:39:05] to County owned building excluding
[1:39:08] housing which will be reviewed in 2026
[1:39:11] so that is what is included in the
[1:39:12] budget package but there are two
[1:39:16] retrofit studies and we inadvertently
[1:39:19] mix the two up so we actually want to do
[1:39:21] the better home the the building
[1:39:23] retrofit study for the housing next year
[1:39:27] and then the municipally owned ones the
[1:39:29] following year so we're just going to
[1:39:31] switch those around it does change some
[1:39:33] of the numbers the value I think is 325
[1:39:37] but there is some funding in the balance
[1:39:38] comes from rate stabilization so similar
[1:39:41] to the other one there's no impact on
[1:39:42] the bottom line so we're just going to
[1:39:44] make that
[1:39:45] switch any questions on climate
[1:39:52] energy summarizing climate and energy
[1:39:54] the status quo operating a 7.58%
[1:39:57] increase and the proposed additions are
[1:40:01] 23.18 moving on to corporate
[1:40:06] facilities the corporate facilities is
[1:40:09] IM Min admin cost for staff that support
[1:40:11] all facilities excluding different Oaks
[1:40:14] as well as the building related costs
[1:40:16] for the courthouse and the Adel BR
[1:40:18] Center revenues um we've adjusted the
[1:40:22] rent Revenue to reflect the actual cost
[1:40:25] recoveries for the courthouse uh lease
[1:40:27] cost those have actually been coming
[1:40:28] down because our costs have been coming
[1:40:29] down but I have our first actual change
[1:40:32] to the budget here I want to add
[1:40:35] $155,000 in Revenue to it's not very big
[1:40:38] to the rent Revenue because we have uh
[1:40:40] decided to lease out 53 Zina and we'll
[1:40:43] be receiving about $15,000 in Revenue
[1:40:45] next
[1:40:46] year and then the other Revenue includes
[1:40:50] revenue from the public electric vehicle
[1:40:53] charging
[1:40:56] stations moving on to expenses uh there
[1:41:01] are 13 full-time positions and one
[1:41:03] part-time seasonal position within
[1:41:06] facilities there's a big decrease in
[1:41:09] admin in office uh this relates to the
[1:41:12] building condition assessment and energy
[1:41:14] audits that were completed in 2024 we do
[1:41:16] the bcas every 5
[1:41:18] years we do budget for them within
[1:41:21] corporate facilities because it's easier
[1:41:23] but when we actually expense them we
[1:41:24] expense them to all the individual
[1:41:28] buildings um other
[1:41:31] highlights uh Consulting includes
[1:41:32] $220,000 to address miscellaneous
[1:41:34] building studies required to ensure the
[1:41:37] longevity of our assets and as well as
[1:41:39] $2,000 for the development of service
[1:41:42] contracts there's been an increase in
[1:41:44] service costs for the EV charging
[1:41:47] stations of about
[1:41:49] $155,000 and uh it communication
[1:41:52] includes a work order software uh with
[1:41:55] annual fee of
[1:41:57] $155,000 and then we are anticipating a
[1:42:00] decrease in vehicles and Equipment as we
[1:42:03] shift towards electric
[1:42:06] vehicles transfers we proposing $75,000
[1:42:09] to come from the rate stabilization
[1:42:11] Reserve just to mitigate some of the
[1:42:13] increases and we do we are able to apply
[1:42:16] small amount of development charges to
[1:42:18] the debt on this
[1:42:21] building moving to proposed additions
[1:42:24] these equate to
[1:42:27] $116,000 for
[1:42:31] 2025 there is a new position um it's in
[1:42:35] the budget to start in March with
[1:42:38] 107,000 you can go to the next page on
[1:42:41] for the project manager
[1:42:42] $17,700 for salaries and benefits plus
[1:42:45] an additional 4,500 in support cost for
[1:42:47] year 1 and $22,000 thereafter with an
[1:42:50] annualized cost of $134,000
[1:42:54] and then the next is the asset and
[1:42:57] maintenance management Annual fees uh
[1:42:59] which I spoke about in engineering or
[1:43:02] operations um same thing their cost
[1:43:04] share though is only
[1:43:07] $3,000 any questions on the proposed
[1:43:10] additions in
[1:43:15] facilities thanks Council way the uh the
[1:43:18] project manager is that the one that
[1:43:20] we're bringing on looking at housing or
[1:43:22] is that another one in housing never
[1:43:24] mind
[1:43:29] then no other questions on these
[1:43:33] [Music]
[1:43:35] additions
[1:43:38] okay moving to the capital asset
[1:43:41] fund we see quite a dip in the capital
[1:43:44] asset fund for corporate facilities over
[1:43:46] the next few years before we start
[1:43:48] building it up
[1:43:50] again the prior year carry forward
[1:43:53] includes uh parking lot at courthouse
[1:43:56] for
[1:43:56] $412,000 switch gears which is electrial
[1:43:59] equipment for
[1:44:00] $125,000 Windows for
[1:44:03] 2011 vehicle which we ordered in 2024
[1:44:06] that hasn't arrived yet for 60 Grand and
[1:44:08] then some um security work at this
[1:44:10] building a 42
[1:44:13] Grand moving to
[1:44:16] contributions uh other revenue is funds
[1:44:19] from Naran for the electric vehicle
[1:44:22] charging station
[1:44:23] uh which there was a report that went to
[1:44:25] council a couple months ago I believe of
[1:44:28] $325,000 we have um put in debt
[1:44:32] financing to cover any work done to this
[1:44:34] building I'm just going to pause there
[1:44:36] for a second um in in terms of we have
[1:44:40] debt financing in there this year and
[1:44:41] next year for this building but we
[1:44:43] probably won't we will not borrow until
[1:44:44] the project is done what we will end up
[1:44:47] doing is we will see how much we can
[1:44:49] cash flow and then if we run into cash
[1:44:51] flow issues then we will get intern term
[1:44:53] borrowing which then we will just flip
[1:44:55] into the actual
[1:44:57] debenture um and then lastly transfers
[1:44:59] from Reserve we have $300,000 coming
[1:45:02] from rate
[1:45:03] stabilization to um cover the balance of
[1:45:06] the cost of the EV charging
[1:45:11] stations moving on to Capital work
[1:45:13] there's $2.5 Million worth of work plan
[1:45:15] for 2025 with 1.375 being considered New
[1:45:19] Capital
[1:45:20] Investments uh future work plan will
[1:45:23] change once we have a further
[1:45:24] clarification on what work will be done
[1:45:26] when for example we have carpet that is
[1:45:29] due for replacement over the next couple
[1:45:31] of years within this building and if
[1:45:32] we're going to renovate this building
[1:45:34] we're clearly not going to do that so
[1:45:37] the the future Capital work plan will
[1:45:39] likely change if we uh renovate this
[1:45:46] building uh we have two parking lots
[1:45:49] planned the north both the North and the
[1:45:50] South parking lot at the courthouse in
[1:45:53] 2025 under buildings we have foundation
[1:45:56] work uh is required to prevent future
[1:45:58] fling funding Flooding at this building
[1:46:01] we have some regular Heating and
[1:46:03] ventilation air conditioning
[1:46:05] Replacements
[1:46:07] and are required at $43,000 as well as
[1:46:10] updates to our building automation
[1:46:12] system of $40,000 and windows of
[1:46:15] 110 due to the Heritage designation of
[1:46:18] the courthouse the windows and exterior
[1:46:20] doors are not replaceable
[1:46:23] as such regular painting is required to
[1:46:25] maintain these assets an amount of
[1:46:28] $12,500 has been included to gaug a
[1:46:30] consultant to assist with the
[1:46:32] specifications in
[1:46:34] 2025 I think the total cost and Scott
[1:46:38] maybe you remember is around 300 between
[1:46:41] three and
[1:46:43] $400,000 to do the actual painting
[1:46:47] um questions
[1:46:49] Phil Phil has his hand up
[1:46:55] I do um I had a question about the ashal
[1:46:59] paving so that's at the courthouse that
[1:47:03] we as a county don't use anymore but we
[1:47:05] still own it so we need to maintain it
[1:47:09] correct um question number two would
[1:47:12] this be hot ashalt
[1:47:17] Paving and Scott is shaking his head yes
[1:47:21] I I see him I I I can actually see that
[1:47:23] um would we ever consider using recycled
[1:47:27] ashalt to to do
[1:47:32] that through you Warden we do use
[1:47:35] recycled asphalt most of the asphalt
[1:47:37] that we use we'll we'll spec a certain
[1:47:39] composition of recycled material um in
[1:47:42] some cases on our roads we do a full
[1:47:43] like cold and place Recycling and those
[1:47:45] types of um um things within a parking
[1:47:47] lot very likely it'll be U Back to the
[1:47:51] the previous one the mix of of new
[1:47:53] materials with a certain um percentage
[1:47:57] of uh recycled material so short answer
[1:48:00] yes but um there's always more
[1:48:03] details to go along with it if if I we
[1:48:07] would not consider using 100% recycled
[1:48:10] material for a for a parking
[1:48:14] lot
[1:48:17] um I suppose we could we haven't um
[1:48:21] there's a there are concerns about
[1:48:22] longevity with that type of work
[1:48:24] depending on the material that you're
[1:48:25] getting so again we've we've found that
[1:48:28] there's a sweet spot and I forget what
[1:48:29] the percentage is that we pursue but
[1:48:31] somewhere in the neighborhood of at
[1:48:32] least
[1:48:33] 20% um on a parking lot you may be able
[1:48:35] to increase that more than what we you
[1:48:37] would typically do on a roadway but um
[1:48:39] full recycled is is not something that
[1:48:42] we have done on a parking lot
[1:48:45] no
[1:48:48] okay anyone else
[1:48:56] uh we also have two pickups that are
[1:48:58] scheduled for replacement in 2025
[1:49:00] similar to other divisions we do have
[1:49:01] one that is being carried forward from
[1:49:05] 2024 and then under New Capital
[1:49:07] Investments we have the renovations to
[1:49:09] this building as well as the electric
[1:49:11] vehicle charging
[1:49:15] stations summarizing corporate
[1:49:17] facilities the status quo operating is
[1:49:19] 13.07 when you add capital in that
[1:49:22] becomes comes
[1:49:23] 27% with proposed additions it's
[1:49:30] 40% moving on to way
[1:49:33] Services uh revenues are up
[1:49:37] $2,000 uh user fees includes uh revenue
[1:49:41] from residents for additional B tags uh
[1:49:44] the other revenue is household hazardous
[1:49:45] waste full producer responsibility for
[1:49:48] designated materials not providing
[1:49:50] adequate compensation to cover C's event
[1:49:53] day costs we're getting about
[1:49:56] $60,000 and then other Revenue also
[1:49:59] includes
[1:50:01] money from circular materials for Waste
[1:50:04] Services guide and waste app and
[1:50:06] $35,000 for the sale of
[1:50:12] composters expenses are down
[1:50:15] $100,000 that's mostly because um
[1:50:18] similar to climate we have stuff in the
[1:50:20] 2024 budget that we had is new and this
[1:50:22] year showing it under new in 2025 sorry
[1:50:26] um relating to the household housers
[1:50:29] waste mobile Depot as well they did do
[1:50:32] some audits in uh
[1:50:36] 20204 um staff includes four full-time
[1:50:39] positions um between six to eight
[1:50:41] seasonal casual positions one Co-op
[1:50:43] student and two summer
[1:50:46] students other highlights in ad minut an
[1:50:48] office includes $98,500 in promotions 22
[1:50:52] ,000 for Waste Audits and $122,000 for
[1:50:56] postage Service delivery we have the
[1:50:59] annual Autumn loose leaf collection and
[1:51:01] processing for Orangeville and shelburn
[1:51:03] at a budget of
[1:51:05] $110,000 the actual costs for 2023 were
[1:51:08] $13 and I haven't seen the cost yet come
[1:51:10] in for
[1:51:13] 2024 um and then vehicles and Equipment
[1:51:16] similar to other divisions who are
[1:51:17] seeing small savings as they transition
[1:51:19] to electric vehicles
[1:51:23] so this is the one area where I actually
[1:51:25] have a budget
[1:51:28] addition uh report went to committee uh
[1:51:30] late last year giving staff permission
[1:51:32] to move forward with going to market for
[1:51:34] the 2025 household hatress was Day
[1:51:36] events the contract came in higher than
[1:51:39] anticipated we budgeted $200,000 and the
[1:51:43] um the lowest bidder is
[1:51:47] $280,000 so we need to increase the
[1:51:49] budget um in order for staff to be able
[1:51:52] to award the
[1:51:55] contract the additional $80,000 is the
[1:51:58] same level of service we provided
[1:51:59] previously the cost have just gone
[1:52:02] up any questions or comments on
[1:52:07] that I could propose that um when we add
[1:52:11] that that we have half of that come from
[1:52:13] reserves because it is a quite a big
[1:52:15] increase so the impact is only 40 Grand
[1:52:17] instead of 80
[1:52:24] comment
[1:52:26] anybody that sounds good doesn't
[1:52:29] it okay uh moving on to
[1:52:34] oh
[1:52:36] pH can't see you so people have to tell
[1:52:39] me when you have your hand up that's
[1:52:40] good seems to be working quite well um
[1:52:44] I'm wondering if instead of taking it
[1:52:47] out of the rate stabilization Reserve we
[1:52:50] look at a few of the small subsidy
[1:52:52] program s um green bins comes to mind
[1:52:54] rain barrels comes to mind couple other
[1:52:57] things and and try to try to even it out
[1:53:00] that way rather than keeping on taking
[1:53:03] from
[1:53:08] reserves uh through you Warden those
[1:53:10] programs do not make they don't really
[1:53:13] make
[1:53:17] money okay
[1:53:20] okay um
[1:53:24] transfers we have $22,000 to offset the
[1:53:28] cost of the waste audits coming from the
[1:53:29] waste reserve and then we do uh we are
[1:53:32] able to apply small amount of
[1:53:34] development charges to offset the cost
[1:53:35] of new green green Green bins based on
[1:53:41] growth uh proposed additions there are a
[1:53:43] couple additions proposed which are to
[1:53:45] be funded from Reserve so the net
[1:53:47] increase is
[1:53:49] zero next slide under previously
[1:53:52] committed we have the long-term Waste
[1:53:54] Management strategy of
[1:53:56] $100,000 which was last completed in
[1:53:58] 2018 the update will review the County's
[1:54:00] progress and any setbacks to meeting its
[1:54:03] waste diversion goals while reviewing
[1:54:05] the path forward for the next five years
[1:54:07] the work will be funded from the waste
[1:54:11] Reserve new to 2025 which we actually
[1:54:14] introduced last year um consultant
[1:54:17] services to assist in the planning
[1:54:19] approval for mobile or permanent
[1:54:21] household hazardous wastey
[1:54:23] $225,000 also to be funded from the
[1:54:25] waste Reserve County staff are exploring
[1:54:27] the components and options and
[1:54:29] opportunities for Depot service and will
[1:54:32] bring forward a recommendation to
[1:54:33] council for consideration 2025 if
[1:54:36] approved the consultant would assist in
[1:54:38] preparation of the required components
[1:54:40] of the approvals application to the
[1:54:41] ministry of environment conservation and
[1:54:43] parks are there any questions on
[1:54:49] those was Services capital is very
[1:54:52] minimal which limits their required fund
[1:54:55] balances the amount of carry forward is
[1:54:57] for the vehicle that we ordered in 20124
[1:55:00] it hasn't arrived
[1:55:02] yet um moving down to contributions the
[1:55:06] only contribution is tax Lobby and it's
[1:55:10] $13,000 and the only work planned for
[1:55:13] 2025 you can go down a couple slides on
[1:55:16] you is um a
[1:55:19] vehicle summarizing Waste Services the
[1:55:22] start status quo operating is 3.28% when
[1:55:24] you add in capital it becomes
[1:55:27] 3.3 and with the proposed changes it's
[1:55:31] 3.29 the largest
[1:55:36] um I don't know what my note says I'll
[1:55:38] just skip
[1:55:38] [Music]
[1:55:41] it okay moving on to County
[1:55:44] forest uh revenues are primarily Timber
[1:55:47] sales and a little bit for hunting and
[1:55:49] event
[1:55:50] permits County for has two positions in
[1:55:53] one summer student uh position the
[1:55:55] salaries and benefits are there's a
[1:55:57] small decrease here similar to
[1:55:59] operations in Fleet we did have an over
[1:56:01] an overlap for the replacement of the
[1:56:04] the forest manager last
[1:56:06] year other highlights minut an office
[1:56:09] includes onetime costs associated with
[1:56:10] the promotion of the new operating plan
[1:56:13] uh $7,900 and 2024 included a one-time
[1:56:17] purchase of animal prooof trash
[1:56:19] bins facilities includes 13
[1:56:23] $1,100 um for snow clearing at some of
[1:56:26] the
[1:56:28] tracks moving to transfers at the end of
[1:56:32] the year any surplus that we have within
[1:56:34] the county Forest is transferred to the
[1:56:35] reserve fund the value of the reserve
[1:56:38] fund has declined significantly over the
[1:56:40] last few
[1:56:41] years so we're just applying a little
[1:56:43] bit each year there's a small net
[1:56:45] increase um sorry proposed
[1:56:48] additions there's a small net increase
[1:56:51] in 2025 with no no staff proposed until
[1:56:55] 2027 um new to 2025 is to attain the
[1:57:00] certification through the sustainable
[1:57:01] Forest initiative which will provide
[1:57:03] tangible validation of sustainable
[1:57:05] management practices and open doors to
[1:57:08] New Opportunities such as the carbon
[1:57:09] credit Market is
[1:57:12] $7,000 and then in line with
[1:57:14] recommendations from the recently
[1:57:16] adopted Transportation master plan
[1:57:18] develop an active Transportation master
[1:57:20] plan to establish a detailed strategy
[1:57:22] with input from local municipalities for
[1:57:25] recommending additional local candidate
[1:57:26] routes that support the network of
[1:57:28] $100,000 to be funded by the reserves
[1:57:31] from wind turbines this is a multi-
[1:57:33] department project and I'm not sure that
[1:57:35] it's actually going to land in County
[1:57:37] forest but we've just dropped in there
[1:57:39] for now and it is at this point likely
[1:57:41] to be led by
[1:57:45] planning um the capital asset fund we
[1:57:50] had plann on depleting the capital asset
[1:57:51] Fund in 2024 however with the delay of
[1:57:53] the delivery of the vehicle uh we have a
[1:57:56] little bit to carry
[1:57:58] forward um the $660,000
[1:58:01] capital and work includes the carryover
[1:58:03] of the vehicle as well as um a small
[1:58:07] amount for replacement of gates and
[1:58:12] fencing summarizing County forest the
[1:58:15] status quo operating is
[1:58:17] 8.47% when that you add in capital it
[1:58:19] becomes
[1:58:20] 8.03 and with with proposed additions
[1:58:23] the total increase is
[1:58:26] 10.56% any questions for County forest I
[1:58:29] had a question in terms of the trail
[1:58:33] because at one point in the um
[1:58:36] description that talked about the person
[1:58:39] um with the forest is also with the
[1:58:43] trail and so there's no expenditures or
[1:58:47] any budget items for the trail
[1:58:52] uh we do have some maintenance money I
[1:58:54] believe in operations and Fleet okay
[1:58:57] yeah okay just it wasn't clear where all
[1:59:00] whether that's going to all be one kind
[1:59:03] of uh unit or
[1:59:05] whether yeah
[1:59:07] Scott uh through you warden so yeah the
[1:59:10] the maintenance of the asset will occur
[1:59:12] through operations and sort of the
[1:59:13] philosophy and management of the
[1:59:17] recreational element of it will be dealt
[1:59:19] with through Forest okay
[1:59:27] Phillip thank you through you I have a a
[1:59:30] question about the sustainable Forest
[1:59:33] initiative certification I mean it's
[1:59:36] it's such a small amount um but and and
[1:59:40] I understood this was to gain access to
[1:59:42] the carbon credit Market um is this a
[1:59:46] national Market an international market
[1:59:49] um if it's National or even
[1:59:51] International do we believe it's still
[1:59:53] going to
[1:59:54] exist um you know by the middle of
[1:59:58] 2025
[2:00:00] Scott through you Warden uh great
[2:00:04] question um all I can really offer on
[2:00:07] this and I I have some notes here just
[2:00:08] to keep track of things but so this is
[2:00:11] through the sustainable Forest
[2:00:13] initiative through the eastern Ontario
[2:00:16] model Forest Group certification so it
[2:00:19] will amongst other things afford um the
[2:00:23] opportunity for resources it will
[2:00:25] confirm to the public that we are in
[2:00:27] fact managing our forests sustainably um
[2:00:31] it will even open up to funding and
[2:00:33] different funding models potentially the
[2:00:36] one that that you spoke to but certainly
[2:00:37] others um so there is more to it than
[2:00:40] simply that that one piece but uh great
[2:00:48] question anyone else
[2:00:53] okay Amy is this the end of this uh
[2:00:55] section I have two more slides okay so
[2:00:58] just to
[2:01:00] summarize the recap same slides we saw
[2:01:02] at the beginning what the percentage in
[2:01:04] increases are on the status quo for each
[2:01:06] division and then the next slide shows
[2:01:09] what the what the proposed
[2:01:12] increases and that concludes this
[2:01:17] one
[2:01:20] questions see
[2:01:23] minute break a five minute break so that
[2:01:26] we can get through um Phillip you have a
[2:01:30] question I I I do sorry to keep you from
[2:01:33] your break um just um because everything
[2:01:37] moved so
[2:01:39] quickly um I I if I could just broadly
[2:01:43] the capital work um piece there's a
[2:01:47] significant amount of work far more than
[2:01:49] we've usually done we generally don't
[2:01:51] get
[2:01:52] done what we want to anyways um I don't
[2:01:56] know that it matters because it would
[2:01:57] just get carried forward is that
[2:02:04] correct uh pretty much are you talking
[2:02:07] about um engineering or just
[2:02:10] generally so this was from the very
[2:02:13] beginning I think there's $91 Million
[2:02:15] worth of capital work planned that's you
[2:02:17] know almost twice as much as we usually
[2:02:19] do and we don't ever do all that we
[2:02:21] usually do yeah a large chunk of that is
[2:02:24] the Operation Center the new Operation
[2:02:26] Center of um just over 20 million and
[2:02:29] then we do have additional projects
[2:02:32] related that are Developer developer
[2:02:35] funded related to the 109
[2:02:38] realignment and that leads beautifully
[2:02:40] into the next question because I
[2:02:42] couldn't find this anywhere either are
[2:02:44] you able to give a highlevel estimate of
[2:02:48] what it's going to cost the tax levy to
[2:02:51] add the new operations center and the
[2:02:54] renovation to the edel Brock
[2:03:01] Center
[2:03:04] no I I can I can find out based on how
[2:03:08] much we think we're going to borrow but
[2:03:09] I haven't gotten into doing the analysis
[2:03:11] in terms of how much it's going to cost
[2:03:13] related to the ongoing operating
[2:03:16] costs and and that's fine and I should
[2:03:19] have asked you this beforehand but if
[2:03:21] that's something I think we have another
[2:03:22] budget meeting on the 30th um I I would
[2:03:25] really appreciate seeing that because I
[2:03:27] am concerned that we're going to saddle
[2:03:31] future councils with a pretty hefty
[2:03:34] increase simply to pay for these
[2:03:38] things yeah so I it would be at least
[2:03:40] from my standpoint very useful to know
[2:03:43] what what that's going to mean to the
[2:03:45] tax levy moving
[2:03:48] forward good point Phil thank you for
[2:03:50] bringing that up
[2:03:52] last question if I may um the electric
[2:03:57] Chargers that was I think that's that's
[2:04:01] $625,000 um we were applying for a grant
[2:04:05] is there offsetting Revenue in the
[2:04:07] budget based on what we thought we'd get
[2:04:09] for the grant or are we only going to
[2:04:12] put that Revenue in if we get it which
[2:04:16] another way of asking are we putting in
[2:04:17] the Chargers regardless of if we get the
[2:04:19] grant
[2:04:22] uh we do have offsetting Revenue in the
[2:04:24] budget and no we are not putting them in
[2:04:26] if we don't get the grant thank you very
[2:04:36] much councilor
[2:04:39] Solomon uh thank you uh Madame Wen just
[2:04:42] a silly end of this segment is uh we've
[2:04:45] been promised a uh trade War by the uh
[2:04:48] end of uh maybe the week after that or a
[2:04:52] week after next um how um like as along
[2:04:57] with Phil's Point um should we be doing
[2:04:59] a whole lot with uh whether we know what
[2:05:02] it that's going to be like um whether
[2:05:05] our constituents have any money left
[2:05:07] we've been kind of threatened that we
[2:05:09] might become State I don't know what can
[2:05:11] be done I don't know if nobody in this
[2:05:14] room I'm sure can answer it and uh and I
[2:05:17] certainly don't know either but I just
[2:05:19] would maybe be cautious I'm
[2:05:22] uh you know you know who you're dealing
[2:05:24] with and you don't know how that's going
[2:05:27] to turn out so I guess we have to go on
[2:05:29] it like business as usual but just who
[2:05:33] knows so thank you very
[2:05:35] much thank you
[2:05:38] Steve uh
[2:05:40] Todd uh just quickly I think the
[2:05:43] commentary by Phil was really good um in
[2:05:46] terms of I know we don't know the number
[2:05:48] but we do know what the impact could be
[2:05:50] in 2026 because we saw I think it was
[2:05:52] plus 10% to the taxpayers and then the
[2:05:55] year after that is also um abnormally
[2:05:58] High two right based based on that I
[2:06:00] can't remember what that number was but
[2:06:02] we do know that we're heading towards
[2:06:03] double digits for the next two
[2:06:10] years you're correct I do have um some
[2:06:12] numbers but just for the debt um and
[2:06:17] it's based on $20 million of debt for
[2:06:20] the um operations Center in $6 million
[2:06:23] here it it depends on how much we
[2:06:25] actually end up borrowing but I can give
[2:06:27] you the numbers that I've included in
[2:06:29] the budget um for future
[2:06:33] years just to pull it
[2:06:41] out okay thank you Amy Let's uh take
[2:06:45] that five minute break then and be back
[2:06:46] at the table in five
[2:07:20] help
[2:07:50] e e
[2:15:09] maybe just
[2:15:32] I do like this new um setup with the
[2:15:35] stuff around the table is
[2:15:38] everybody comfortable with this rather
[2:15:42] not Scott oh it's just
[2:15:45] Scott well we can move him somewhere
[2:15:47] else
[2:15:57] [Laughter]
[2:16:01] change your name
[2:16:07] Todd okay folks we're now on the general
[2:16:10] government services piece so in your uh
[2:16:14] documents make sure you're on the right
[2:16:18] category go ahead Amy
[2:16:23] thank you I'm just waiting for Sonia to
[2:16:24] bring up the uh slide
[2:16:35] deck okay General government services
[2:16:38] includes Council Office of the C
[2:16:41] corporate services and people in equity
[2:16:43] unfortunately this committee does have
[2:16:45] the most
[2:16:46] slides so starting off with Council and
[2:16:49] Grant this status quo increase
[2:16:53] is
[2:16:55] 33% and with proposed additions is
[2:17:01] 9.83% uh just some highlights really is
[2:17:05] only the salaries and benefits has
[2:17:07] decreased as we've reduced the preems by
[2:17:12] $28,900 other highlights uh training and
[2:17:15] conferences for Olive council is
[2:17:17] $52,000 and then the membership fees for
[2:17:20] western w
[2:17:21] emo and fcm total $49,100
[2:17:26] there are some proposed additions within
[2:17:29] um Council council members have
[2:17:32] previously proposed an increase to
[2:17:34] contributions to the Food For Thought
[2:17:36] grants of 40% or
[2:17:40] $28,000 we are also proposing an
[2:17:42] increase of $45,000 to the community
[2:17:44] grant program for a total of
[2:17:47] $140,000 and additional support to
[2:17:49] Headwaters community in
[2:17:51] action um for administration of the
[2:17:54] county grant program of
[2:17:56] $115,000 as per council's request hcia
[2:18:00] did provide us with a proposed increase
[2:18:02] for 2025 in future years the total
[2:18:05] increase for 2025 was
[2:18:07] $140,500 but due to other pressures we
[2:18:10] did not include the total amount but did
[2:18:13] include an increase of
[2:18:15] $4,500 um and this is split between this
[2:18:18] budget and community services and then
[2:18:20] of of course there are further increases
[2:18:22] planned for future
[2:18:24] years councelor
[2:18:26] ni yeah I just I just want to check I
[2:18:29] understand the the additions the new
[2:18:31] grants are going to give but back up to
[2:18:33] the
[2:18:35] um on the main page Service delivery
[2:18:38] including grants that does include the
[2:18:40] $50,000 we're giving to the food bank
[2:18:42] that that was a commitment more than one
[2:18:45] year was it was it not or is my
[2:18:47] memory at fault here the add amount that
[2:18:51] um the council proposed for the food
[2:18:54] bank I've included in the $28,000 in the
[2:18:57] Food For Thought grants on the proposed
[2:18:59] additions it's included in that amount
[2:19:00] there 28 28,000 I yeah so I thought we
[2:19:05] made a commitment we decided to increase
[2:19:08] I think from 40 to
[2:19:10] 50,000 or I can't remember the exact
[2:19:12] amount but it worked out to 28% and we
[2:19:14] thought that it was only fair that that
[2:19:15] shelburn got that as
[2:19:18] well okay I think I think I follow that
[2:19:21] okay okay
[2:19:22] thanks any other questions on the
[2:19:25] proposed additions under
[2:19:28] Council seeing none
[2:19:32] okay um then summarizing them it's a 33%
[2:19:36] increased status quo and
[2:19:38] 9.83% uh with the
[2:19:41] additions moving on to the office of the
[2:19:44] cioo um office of coo consists of
[2:19:46] administration and Communications clerks
[2:19:49] and Emergency Management and have a net
[2:19:51] increase of
[2:19:52] 6.83% there are no proposed additions
[2:19:55] for 2025 in the office of the
[2:19:59] CAO uh Capital the only Department that
[2:20:02] has capital is Emergency
[2:20:03] Management and as you can see they
[2:20:05] pretty much only have one thing
[2:20:10] um uh so the the
[2:20:14] um yeah the line goes up and down as we
[2:20:17] require the capital asset fund balance
[2:20:18] kind of goes up and down as we need the
[2:20:20] money
[2:20:23] moving into Administration and
[2:20:25] Communications um you have to pardon my
[2:20:27] short forms some of some Department
[2:20:29] names are too long so I just kind of
[2:20:31] shortened it to admin and
[2:20:34] Communications in the package you will
[2:20:35] see that in many Communications did
[2:20:37] include Revenue when I was putting
[2:20:40] together the slide deck I realized that
[2:20:42] the uh Revenue actually belongs under
[2:20:44] the clerk's
[2:20:46] department and so we I made the change
[2:20:48] on these slides the total difference is
[2:20:52] $1,750 so admin and communication does
[2:20:55] consist of four full-time employees and
[2:20:57] the big increase in 2025 is because we
[2:21:00] did add a position in
[2:21:03] 2024 in terms of highlights we are
[2:21:06] including Community engagement training
[2:21:07] for all staff uh that are involved with
[2:21:10] public consultation at a cost of
[2:21:12] $77,000 and we have Consulting for
[2:21:14] ongoing strategic plan implementation
[2:21:16] work of $60,000 which we propose to come
[2:21:19] from Reserves
[2:21:22] which is the transfers on the next page
[2:21:25] and then since there's nothing new
[2:21:27] summarizing the status quote budget is
[2:21:29] increase at 9% any questions on admin
[2:21:31] and
[2:21:35] Communications moving on to clerks um
[2:21:38] they have a little bit of Revenue they
[2:21:40] have a little bit of revenue for parking
[2:21:41] tickets and then POA cost recovery um we
[2:21:45] do provide phone and internet services
[2:21:47] and they just um pay us a cost for that
[2:21:51] on the expense side they do have a small
[2:21:53] increase of $115,000 or 3% and there are
[2:21:57] three staff within that
[2:22:00] division other highlights it and
[2:22:02] Communications uh the ESB annual
[2:22:04] licensing fee is $336,600 and then
[2:22:08] internal Services recover it is just an
[2:22:10] allocation that we do between different
[2:22:12] divisions to make sure we're capturing
[2:22:14] the full costs um within the other
[2:22:16] divisions typically we only do them
[2:22:18] between divisions that receive subsidy
[2:22:22] and then of course I have um included a
[2:22:25] small amount coming from the rate
[2:22:26] stabilization Reserve to to offset the
[2:22:29] big jump as a result of the
[2:22:33] Ebe and summarizing Clerk's Department
[2:22:36] status quo is
[2:22:40] 5.32% Emergency
[2:22:43] Management they have one full-time staff
[2:22:46] and uh a small portion for the Emergency
[2:22:49] Management backup
[2:22:51] position they have a net decrease in
[2:22:53] expenses 2024 included an amount to uh
[2:22:58] relocate the emergency Operation
[2:23:02] Center um as well as a small amount
[2:23:06] towards the resiliency Hub
[2:23:09] planning the admin office also includes
[2:23:11] training a $1,500 increase and
[2:23:15] photography and videography of
[2:23:17] $2,000 Service delivery includes $22,000
[2:23:20] for emergency exercises and public
[2:23:22] education and $10,000 for emergency
[2:23:24] prepared preparedness kits and then
[2:23:27] $36,800 for the 911
[2:23:31] contract transfers um we have an annual
[2:23:35] contribution to the emergency Municipal
[2:23:37] emergency redness reserve and uh 2024 we
[2:23:41] did include an amount coming from
[2:23:42] reserve for the relocation of the
[2:23:46] emergency Operation Center
[2:23:52] uh the capital asset fund you can see at
[2:23:54] the bottom line it increases over the
[2:23:56] next few years as we're setting IDE
[2:23:58] money for future
[2:24:01] Replacements contributions we're hoping
[2:24:03] to get some uh funding for the
[2:24:05] resiliency Hub of $50,000 and then we
[2:24:08] will be pulling 25,000 from the rate
[2:24:10] stabilization as it's
[2:24:14] new um we have one project planned for
[2:24:18] 2025 it is joint project with climate
[2:24:22] and energy and I believe facilities the
[2:24:25] outdoor Community resilience Hub of
[2:24:26] $100,000 will serve as an important
[2:24:29] piece of infrastructure that will offer
[2:24:31] a gathering space for community members
[2:24:33] to connect access resources and
[2:24:35] strengthen climate resilience featuring
[2:24:37] sheltered seating educational signage
[2:24:39] and climate adaptive Landscaping The Hub
[2:24:42] will support workshops and events
[2:24:43] focused on emergency preparedness and
[2:24:45] local
[2:24:48] collaboration any question
[2:24:52] questions there are no proposed
[2:24:53] additions summarizing Emergency
[2:24:55] Management they're up 3.98% and with
[2:24:58] capital it's
[2:25:02] 3.79 summarizing the office of the CEO
[2:25:06] department just the same slide that we
[2:25:07] saw
[2:25:09] earlier moving on to Corporate
[2:25:12] Services you moving too fast Corporate
[2:25:16] Services consist of three div um four
[2:25:20] divisions technically it Finance
[2:25:22] corporate finance and procurement they
[2:25:23] have a status quo increase of
[2:25:26] 1.95% you can be on the next
[2:25:29] slide and the next
[2:25:31] one with proposed increases we jump to
[2:25:44] 12.06% sorry Todd go ahead I was just
[2:25:46] curious the um the setup that we have in
[2:25:49] terms of how the grid is done I know
[2:25:51] that our CIO is the acting director of
[2:25:54] corporate services really has been for
[2:25:57] quite some time is that are we replacing
[2:26:00] that and if we're not um is that money
[2:26:03] in the budget and if it is should it be
[2:26:07] or are we just going to allocate it
[2:26:09] differently but the grid still says that
[2:26:10] we have the position but I mean I
[2:26:12] haven't been with the county for a long
[2:26:13] time but I I haven't seen I don't I
[2:26:15] don't recall who had it and it feels
[2:26:17] like it's been a long time
[2:26:25] for you Warden Herer uh it's a great
[2:26:27] question councelor Taylor no that
[2:26:29] position has not been filled for quite
[2:26:31] some time uh I think if you note in one
[2:26:34] of the objectives for 2025 for um the
[2:26:38] office of the CAO is to take a look at
[2:26:40] the senior management structure and to
[2:26:42] make some decisions on how we might like
[2:26:44] to move forward so um there is funding
[2:26:47] in there now and I would suggest that
[2:26:49] when we have that conversation later in
[2:26:51] the year we will likely reallocate it
[2:26:52] but I don't think it would something be
[2:26:54] something that we would completely
[2:27:03] delete Capital the only Department that
[2:27:05] has uh capital is
[2:27:07] it um the tax that be here remains
[2:27:10] relatively constant as the capital fund
[2:27:12] balance does go up and down from year to
[2:27:13] year god
[2:27:17] sakes um it
[2:27:21] uh revenues are down
[2:27:24] $45,000 uh essentially the other
[2:27:27] revenues are reallocation of cost to
[2:27:28] other divisions in 2024 included an
[2:27:31] allocation of Staff time towards the
[2:27:33] website project which is now
[2:27:35] done and the government transfer is it
[2:27:38] contracts with the lower tiers including
[2:27:39] GIS and support that they
[2:27:45] provide um expenses are down
[2:27:48] $24,000 um they have 10 full-time
[2:27:51] positions and two student positions the
[2:27:54] internal Services recovered is as I said
[2:27:57] earlier is an allocation of cost to
[2:27:58] other divisions in
[2:28:00] 2024 we added an IT Tech position to
[2:28:03] support different Oaks the increase in
[2:28:05] internal Services recovered is an
[2:28:07] allocation of the cost associated with a
[2:28:09] new position to different
[2:28:11] Oaks despite the added position in 2024
[2:28:15] salaries and benefits have a reasonable
[2:28:17] increase as they did have additional
[2:28:18] staff in 2024 to to support the website
[2:28:23] project other highlights Consulting fees
[2:28:25] include a review of the current phone
[2:28:27] system graphic design support and other
[2:28:29] services to ensure the Integrity of the
[2:28:31] it infrastructure of
[2:28:33] 59,000 professional fees training and
[2:28:35] development of staff is over
[2:28:37] $80,000 and then they have a small
[2:28:39] amount for legal fees to support the
[2:28:40] review of
[2:28:42] contracts within Service delivery um
[2:28:44] primarily the services is to support the
[2:28:47] gis at $2 29,6
[2:28:51] which includes M&R air photos in 2025
[2:28:54] which are updated every 3 years of
[2:28:56] $6,000 and the balance is just work done
[2:28:59] through agreements with others and is
[2:29:00] offset by contributions from
[2:29:06] others councelor Garrett just on GIS I
[2:29:09] think do we have one GIS person
[2:29:12] currently yeah and I think is where the
[2:29:17] the plan is to add somebody in 2026
[2:29:20] 27 we actually sorry we have one GIS and
[2:29:24] then we do have a one GIS summer student
[2:29:27] okay and yeah the plan is to add
[2:29:28] somebody I believe in 2027 oh okay yeah
[2:29:31] I was just wondering with all the stuff
[2:29:33] that Mr Burns has proposed all the
[2:29:35] additional software I think that they're
[2:29:39] potentially uh GIS heavy right some of
[2:29:42] those the studies and the the softwares
[2:29:45] I was just wondering if we need to
[2:29:47] consider adding that GIS person
[2:29:51] earlier um you know maybe not 2025 but
[2:29:54] just more of a just like to get an OP we
[2:29:57] seem pretty light on GIS staff is is all
[2:30:00] I was thinking for the size of the
[2:30:02] organization through you Warden um it
[2:30:05] it's a great observation councelor
[2:30:06] Garrett certainly additional uh GIS
[2:30:09] resources would be valuable and uh I
[2:30:12] think something that we would would
[2:30:14] really like to add in the future um just
[2:30:16] in terms of all of the additional
[2:30:18] Staffing positions we did go through a
[2:30:20] very robust uh prioritization process at
[2:30:23] the senior management level to determine
[2:30:26] which positions to include in 2025 and
[2:30:29] um that one didn't quite make the cut
[2:30:31] but um as we go through and do another
[2:30:33] evaluation when we move into 2026 we
[2:30:36] certainly look at them all again and
[2:30:37] they could get reprioritized at that
[2:30:39] time especially as you note there is
[2:30:41] this move to add additional software as
[2:30:44] we're going forward okay thank you
[2:30:50] um and then it and
[2:30:52] Communications it includes annual
[2:30:54] software fees and subscriptions
[2:30:56] including our Microsoft Microsoft
[2:30:58] licensing for the entire organization of
[2:31:00] just over
[2:31:02] $500,000 website hosting and maintenance
[2:31:04] of $39,000 software security of 334,000
[2:31:09] and Hardware maintenance of just over
[2:31:14] $78,000 um we do have $100,000 coming
[2:31:18] from the rate stabilization Reserve to
[2:31:19] to migrate fluctuations and it related
[2:31:22] costs we do have a number of contracts
[2:31:25] um that Renew at different times so we
[2:31:28] have some that renew annually some that
[2:31:29] renew every two years some that renew
[2:31:31] every 3 years every four years so just
[2:31:33] to mitigate those increases we often
[2:31:35] apply an amount from reserves just to
[2:31:37] mitigate the ups and
[2:31:40] downs in relation to proposed additions
[2:31:43] the net increase is
[2:31:45] $37,000 um there's two there in 2025
[2:31:50] the to conduct a comprehensive Telecom
[2:31:53] System review to ensure the robust
[2:31:55] robustness security adaptive
[2:31:57] adaptability and cost efficiency at
[2:32:00] $20,000 and to conduct a tabletop cyber
[2:32:03] security exercise to prepare our team to
[2:32:05] effectively respond to potential cyber
[2:32:07] threats of
[2:32:14] $117,000 uh moving on to Capital is
[2:32:16] there any questions on the proposed
[2:32:19] additions for it
[2:32:21] straightforward um the capital asset
[2:32:24] fund is one of I think only two that it
[2:32:27] will be going into a negative in it um
[2:32:30] this is mainly due to the increase we've
[2:32:32] been seeing in the prices and as we add
[2:32:35] more staff we certainly need more
[2:32:37] equipment um there's a 6.6% increase on
[2:32:40] the capital Levy where I'm trying not to
[2:32:42] increase it too much um from year to
[2:32:46] year the balance forward is is a small
[2:32:49] Surplus it's just um a few small items
[2:32:52] that we haven't purchased
[2:32:54] yet other Revenue includes an allocation
[2:32:57] from operating for new staff and then
[2:33:00] transfer from Reserve is similar um
[2:33:04] transfer from one Department that
[2:33:05] receive
[2:33:08] subsidy in terms of the capital work
[2:33:11] plan they have $666,000 worth of work
[2:33:16] planned all of their stuff falls under
[2:33:18] equipment and machinery
[2:33:20] there's updates of the phone system at
[2:33:22] VAR various locations of
[2:33:24] $102,000 and user devices of
[2:33:26] $200,000 this includes laptops desktops
[2:33:30] iPads and cell phones um I just want to
[2:33:33] make a note on the cell phones prior to
[2:33:36] 2025 the cell phone replacement was
[2:33:38] included in operating budgets because of
[2:33:40] the overall value of the all of the cell
[2:33:42] phones that we own we decided that we
[2:33:44] should be capitalizing that so we've
[2:33:46] moved that into the capital budget and
[2:33:47] removed it from the operating
[2:33:51] um and user devices also includes
[2:33:52] $30,000 for the replacement of a plotter
[2:33:56] it infrastructure is 364,000 includes
[2:33:59] Network switches wireless access points
[2:34:01] and battery backups it also includes
[2:34:04] $200,000 for server and storage
[2:34:08] replacement summarizing it the status
[2:34:11] quo operating is only 96% and with
[2:34:14] capital it's 1.78% and then with the
[2:34:16] proposed additions it's 3.2% overall any
[2:34:19] question questions on
[2:34:23] it okay moving on to
[2:34:27] finance we
[2:34:30] have next slide we have 10 full-time
[2:34:33] positions and currently one contract
[2:34:35] position 2025 does include a full year
[2:34:38] of the new financial analyst position
[2:34:40] addit in
[2:34:43] 2024 admin in office includes Consulting
[2:34:46] update as required to the asset
[2:34:48] management plan we have 40,
[2:34:50] in there and as well as $50,000 from the
[2:34:53] for the development charge background
[2:34:54] study both of which will be offset by
[2:34:57] reserves and then in it and
[2:34:59] communication our largest expense
[2:35:01] relates to the annual fees and
[2:35:02] maintenance of our existing software of
[2:35:07] $53,000 transfers as I stated to the
[2:35:10] asset management plan and the
[2:35:11] development charge background study we
[2:35:13] will have coming from the rate
[2:35:14] stabilization ideally the development
[2:35:16] charge background study should be funded
[2:35:18] from the development charge um Reserve
[2:35:20] fund but my study balance is currently
[2:35:22] in a negative so which is why I'm taking
[2:35:24] it from rate
[2:35:27] stabilization um there's only two
[2:35:29] divisions that have digital mod
[2:35:31] modernization this year uh finance and
[2:35:33] people in
[2:35:34] equity so we have three projects on the
[2:35:38] go we are in the final stages of
[2:35:40] implementing our new financial
[2:35:41] information system business Central um
[2:35:44] the money does include backfilling of a
[2:35:46] position to support the implementation
[2:35:48] and the total costs are estimated at
[2:35:50] $23,000 in
[2:35:52] 2025 we are also implementing the new
[2:35:55] asset maintenance uh management system
[2:35:57] that will support all divisions and
[2:35:59] we're just capturing the implementation
[2:36:01] costs within finance and that's
[2:36:04] $190,000 and then a new version of our
[2:36:08] existing uh budgeting software will be
[2:36:10] required to support the changes in
[2:36:11] business Central to allow for pop proper
[2:36:14] integration between the systems and
[2:36:15] we've budgeted $100,000 for that all
[2:36:18] these projects are being it through
[2:36:20] reserves that we've previously set aside
[2:36:21] for digital modernization
[2:36:26] projects proposed additions are um
[2:36:30] request is
[2:36:31] $171,000 for
[2:36:35] 2025 um we are proposing a new
[2:36:38] accounting manager and actually we
[2:36:40] already have this position as a contract
[2:36:42] employee when we moved into the
[2:36:44] implementation of the financial software
[2:36:46] we decided to back fill our Deputy
[2:36:48] Treasurer and we so that she could focus
[2:36:50] on the implementation of the project and
[2:36:52] we created this new accounting position
[2:36:55] who supports the day-to-day and the
[2:36:57] Staffing and he the positions become
[2:37:00] integral and what we found with the
[2:37:02] deputy Treasurer is she never actually
[2:37:03] let go a lot of her duties just because
[2:37:05] there's too much work to do so without
[2:37:08] the added position we're going to be in
[2:37:11] trouble um and then the on the
[2:37:14] previously committed is the is the um
[2:37:18] new software our new Financial software
[2:37:21] the annual fees are approximately
[2:37:23] $110,000 and because we're phasing it in
[2:37:26] it's $35,000 for 20125 and then again
[2:37:29] the same software that we spoke to in
[2:37:31] operations our asset and maintenance
[2:37:33] management the annual fees for uh
[2:37:36] Finance is
[2:37:39] $1,700 any questions on
[2:37:45] those so the
[2:37:47] status oh pH
[2:37:50] has has a
[2:37:53] question yeah yes thank you and and it
[2:37:56] it's about the proposed uh addition of
[2:38:00] staff and and this comes from ignorance
[2:38:03] and sort of what the CAO mentioned on
[2:38:06] Monday about how um the county is a
[2:38:09] different animal than than local tier I
[2:38:12] understand what the finance department
[2:38:15] does at the town of Grand
[2:38:17] Valley with collecting property taxes
[2:38:20] paying stuff um I
[2:38:23] am because the county doesn't collect
[2:38:27] those right other than sending out
[2:38:28] remittances to um the local tiers I'm
[2:38:32] less familiar with what they do so if
[2:38:35] Amy or someone could provide maybe a
[2:38:39] general overview of of sort of the major
[2:38:42] aspects of the um find or the accounting
[2:38:45] Division and then why there's an extra
[2:38:47] person required
[2:38:51] sure um we do over 200 different reports
[2:38:55] to the ministry um throughout the year
[2:38:58] to various Ministries actually I think
[2:39:00] there's probably seven or eight
[2:39:01] different Ministries so this position
[2:39:03] actually helps supporting verifying the
[2:39:05] information and ensuring that our
[2:39:06] financial analysts have um done them
[2:39:09] correctly um we process
[2:39:12] [Music]
[2:39:15] over I don't remember the number of we
[2:39:18] we process it's in the budget bet
[2:39:20] document we process quite a few um
[2:39:23] invoices each week uh probably five or
[2:39:26] 600 invoices every week we're
[2:39:28] processing um our division also includes
[2:39:31] payroll we only have two people within
[2:39:33] payroll and that's a stretch uh what
[2:39:36] else do we do the main point is
[2:39:39] reporting and then doing all the
[2:39:40] financial reporting and the budgeting
[2:39:42] here to
[2:39:43] council and tax policy and Investments
[2:39:47] and insurance
[2:39:57] okay so the status quo budget for
[2:40:00] finance is 5.17 and the total with the
[2:40:03] additions it's 21.8
[2:40:06] 3% keep
[2:40:14] going you went the wrong way sorry
[2:40:20] okay Corporate Finance so Corporate
[2:40:22] Finance Falls within Finance but it's
[2:40:24] separate um because a lot of that the
[2:40:27] things that are within Corporate Finance
[2:40:29] are more corporate in nature and
[2:40:31] specific to finance where it's Finance
[2:40:33] is really focused on the day-to-day so
[2:40:35] in here we have the Investments and the
[2:40:37] insurance and stuff like that um in
[2:40:40] terms of Revenue the taxes included um
[2:40:43] taxation includes supplemental levels
[2:40:45] levies payments and lose net of tax
[2:40:47] writeoffs all of which are an estimate
[2:40:50] and um but we do have a reserve we can
[2:40:53] draw from if we are our estimate is off
[2:40:55] investment income will continue to
[2:40:57] decrease as we've seen the interest
[2:40:58] rates go down and then the government
[2:41:00] transfers includes a subsidy for court
[2:41:04] security uh the net decrease in expenses
[2:41:07] is
[2:41:08] $335,000 which is mainly because um the
[2:41:11] next slide on you the vacancy savings we
[2:41:14] actually increased that from 7 let me go
[2:41:17] back from 750 to a mill ion
[2:41:20] do uh to better reflect the actual it's
[2:41:23] approximately 2.2% we haven't run the
[2:41:25] numbers but I think I spoke to you in
[2:41:27] December that at the end of September of
[2:41:30] this year we were just over $900,000 in
[2:41:34] savings Administration and office
[2:41:36] includes uh just over a million dollars
[2:41:39] for Assessment Services through impact
[2:41:41] we make a payment to the town of
[2:41:43] Orangeville for Courthouse security of
[2:41:45] $125,000 and our liability insurance
[2:41:49] um is included in here as well as an
[2:41:51] amount to cover any insurance costs that
[2:41:53] are below our deductible um that all
[2:41:55] adds up to
[2:41:58] $178,000
[2:42:01] transfers um you may recall a couple
[2:42:03] years ago we talked about um applying
[2:42:06] rate stabilization thank you to the just
[2:42:10] the bottom line of the budget we
[2:42:11] captured in here we had proposed it to
[2:42:14] be
[2:42:15] $750,000 in 2025 but um because of the
[2:42:18] increase in the budget and also because
[2:42:21] the value of the rate stabilization is
[2:42:23] quite large we felt that we could leave
[2:42:24] it at a million
[2:42:28] dollars um so overall the net
[2:42:33] um decrease technically is 84,000 or
[2:42:38] 4.13% any questions on Corporate
[2:42:42] Finance okay
[2:42:44] procurement um procurement has three
[2:42:47] full-time staff
[2:42:51] uh admin and office includes Consulting
[2:42:53] fees to assist in the development of new
[2:42:55] procurement templates of $55,000 legal
[2:42:58] fees of
[2:42:59] 3,000 and we shifted the training and
[2:43:02] development costs of the director of
[2:43:03] corporate services from other divisions
[2:43:05] into those this into
[2:43:08] procurement um overall the net increase
[2:43:10] is
[2:43:12] 5.35% any questions on
[2:43:16] procurement pretty simple um again a
[2:43:19] summary the corporate services increase
[2:43:22] by um Department status quo the net is
[2:43:26] 1.95% and then with the proposed
[2:43:28] additions it's
[2:43:32] 12.06% moving on to people in
[2:43:35] equity so we're presenting people in
[2:43:37] equity differently this year we split
[2:43:40] out to five different divisions
[2:43:41] including people in equity admin Human
[2:43:44] Resources Equity Learning and
[2:43:46] Development and health and safety this
[2:43:48] department does look a little wonky as
[2:43:50] you will see some divisions are way up
[2:43:52] and others are way down the division is
[2:43:55] very the department actually is very
[2:43:56] much uh Project based so all we're
[2:43:59] simply doing is Shifting um projects
[2:44:02] from one division to another there are
[2:44:05] two main drivers to the 11.85% increase
[2:44:09] uh one is staff that we added in 2024
[2:44:11] and then the second is a decrease in the
[2:44:13] health and safety
[2:44:15] revenues in terms of um proposed
[2:44:18] additions the increase now becomes
[2:44:20] 12.17% there's no capital in people in
[2:44:24] equity people in equity
[2:44:27] admin um they have three full-time
[2:44:29] positions there's been a lot of recent
[2:44:31] retirements of long-term staff that have
[2:44:34] resulted in an increase in our
[2:44:35] post-retirement benefits of
[2:44:37] $28,000 we're also seeing an increase in
[2:44:40] our non-union wsib claim costs so we've
[2:44:42] increased that to reflect actual but
[2:44:44] those are offset by transfer from our
[2:44:46] Reserve
[2:44:48] fund the increase is uh as I said
[2:44:50] earlier we added a new position within
[2:44:52] this division which is leading to the
[2:44:54] increase
[2:44:55] here other highlights admin includes
[2:44:58] excess Indemnity and occupational
[2:45:00] accident Insurance of
[2:45:02] $136,000 which are both offset by the WB
[2:45:05] Reserve fund long Service Awards and
[2:45:07] staff events are 25,000 and Consulting
[2:45:10] includes
[2:45:11] 34,000 including a small amount for data
[2:45:14] management policy and framework
[2:45:16] development of
[2:45:17] 4,000 and then in Services recovered is
[2:45:20] just an allocation from other
[2:45:22] divisions transfers from wsib Reserve
[2:45:25] are um put in to offset the costs of
[2:45:29] claim and insurance cost and I just
[2:45:31] wanted to note here that it will
[2:45:33] actually end up being less because we
[2:45:35] did have an excess Indemnity insurance
[2:45:37] um policy that we decide not to renew
[2:45:39] based on recommendation from our
[2:45:41] Actuarial study Consultants because the
[2:45:44] value of our wsib Reserve fund is
[2:45:46] healthy enough that we'll be able we
[2:45:47] don't we don't need that insurance
[2:45:53] um for proposed additions the net is
[2:45:56] zero um we've included the non-union
[2:45:59] wage market review and is proposed being
[2:46:01] offset by the rate uh the rate
[2:46:03] stabilization Reserve because it's a
[2:46:04] onetime
[2:46:06] thing and then the financial summary the
[2:46:10] status quo and the proposed um with the
[2:46:12] proposed increases is 30.9 7% increase
[2:46:15] any questions on the people in equity
[2:46:18] admin
[2:46:26] um just ever so quickly I appreciate the
[2:46:28] way that was described and certainly
[2:46:29] we've been over this I'm just curious on
[2:46:32] those positions that we've added
[2:46:33] recently specifically the investigator
[2:46:36] um I think a lot of us were curious how
[2:46:38] that was going to go it it would be
[2:46:41] great if over time we had discussions
[2:46:44] about how that's going and like a little
[2:46:47] progress report and was it a investment
[2:46:50] or not and if I could um that it would
[2:46:53] be the same comment I would have about
[2:46:55] procurement as well um certainly don't
[2:46:58] doubt that good works are being done
[2:46:59] there by any stretch but it would be
[2:47:00] great to understand um what is the
[2:47:03] savings and um you know what value are
[2:47:06] they bringing longer term and just be
[2:47:09] great outside of this so it's maybe not
[2:47:11] a budget question but certainly
[2:47:13] understand that both departments are
[2:47:14] doing great great work but would love to
[2:47:16] have a few details and just a check in
[2:47:19] at some point and uh appreciate what
[2:47:22] what the numbers
[2:47:26] are thanks
[2:47:30] Todd Phil apparently you're
[2:47:34] online and would like to answer a ask a
[2:47:38] question yeah I can't answer my question
[2:47:41] but I will ask
[2:47:43] it um and it's about the wage market
[2:47:46] review and earlier Rohan said we'
[2:47:48] committed
[2:47:49] doing it every four years I I just want
[2:47:51] to make sure because I couldn't remember
[2:47:53] if we did it in 21 22 so I'm assuming we
[2:47:55] did it in 21 the last
[2:47:58] time
[2:48:01] affirmative easy
[2:48:06] peasy okay moving on to Human Resources
[2:48:09] oh hang on we have one more question
[2:48:11] Philip's question just me so that that
[2:48:14] market review that you have those those
[2:48:17] findings would be not for this Council
[2:48:20] correct like we would we' Implement at a
[2:48:22] later date because there's really
[2:48:23] there's two things there's there's staff
[2:48:25] and then there's there's Council so
[2:48:27] you're going to do do both in
[2:48:31] 2025 so be 2026 well so I'm curious I'm
[2:48:37] curious when you're going to implement
[2:48:38] and I guess what year so it's 2025
[2:48:40] you're going to do it and then you
[2:48:42] implement post this Council yeah through
[2:48:45] you chair so yes uh the not what we're
[2:48:47] talking about is the non-union wage
[2:48:48] market review and so um the review would
[2:48:51] take part in happen in 2025 and we would
[2:48:53] look to implement in
[2:48:57] 2026 you are going to do one for Council
[2:49:00] though too
[2:49:02] right go ahead through you Warden uh
[2:49:05] there is uh one done for council at the
[2:49:07] end of every term of council for
[2:49:09] implementation in the next
[2:49:11] term and that doesn't come in 2025 it
[2:49:14] comes in 2026 correct thank you
[2:49:23] okay Human
[2:49:29] Resources okay Human Resources has six
[2:49:31] full-time positions and one
[2:49:33] student highlights include um legal fees
[2:49:38] of
[2:49:39] $65,000 they have $155,000 included for
[2:49:42] specialized recruitment advertising to
[2:49:44] Target under Service Groups and then um
[2:49:47] internal service is recovered they do
[2:49:50] have additional Staffing costs um
[2:49:53] they're directly that directly support
[2:49:54] Duff
[2:49:58] NOS digital modernization this is the
[2:50:00] other division that has digital
[2:50:02] modernization implementation of a human
[2:50:04] resource information system is estimated
[2:50:07] $350,000 work on this project began in
[2:50:09] 2020 2024 with final product selection
[2:50:12] expected in early 2025 with
[2:50:14] implementation to
[2:50:16] follow the $350,000 is an estimate and
[2:50:19] it is possible May way may require more
[2:50:21] funds if that is the case we will
[2:50:23] present bring a report to Council of
[2:50:25] course um and as part of the digital
[2:50:27] modernization project costs associated
[2:50:29] with this project will be offset by
[2:50:31] reserves set aside specifically for
[2:50:33] these
[2:50:36] items uh summarizing HR status quo is
[2:50:40] 2.49% the digital projects of course
[2:50:42] have no
[2:50:44] impact um but there will be impacts in
[2:50:47] future years when we bring the the um
[2:50:49] annual fees on so they're yeah it's
[2:50:54] 2.49% moving on to
[2:50:56] equity there are two full-time staff in
[2:50:59] equity the one position was added in
[2:51:01] 2024 hence the large increase to
[2:51:02] salaries and
[2:51:05] benefits highlights corporate training
[2:51:07] includes $20,000 for the balance owing
[2:51:09] for the anti-racism training which began
[2:51:11] in 2024 which will be offset by transfer
[2:51:14] from Reserve we have $40,000 for
[2:51:17] Keynotes for days of significant
[2:51:19] 2 S
[2:51:21] lgbtq Plus people leader training
[2:51:24] $4,000 indigenous education for people
[2:51:26] leaders of
[2:51:27] 35,000 and then we have Consulting fees
[2:51:30] including which includes 15,000 to
[2:51:32] support policy
[2:51:33] development and then within Service
[2:51:36] delivery uh We've included $330,000 for
[2:51:39] Community discussion
[2:51:42] series uh transfer shows the mount from
[2:51:45] anti-racism
[2:51:53] uh I just had a question about uh the
[2:51:55] training so so many of these training
[2:51:57] programs have been common in workplaces
[2:52:00] for 10 15 years or so um I'm not sure
[2:52:03] how long they've been rolled out here at
[2:52:04] the county but um is there any attempt
[2:52:08] to do any evaluation of the programming
[2:52:10] in terms of uh any impact they're having
[2:52:13] with staff on their work or on the
[2:52:16] morale like positive or negative is are
[2:52:18] we are we doing an evaluation on these
[2:52:20] these trainings and and the impact that
[2:52:22] they're
[2:52:23] having
[2:52:25] ran uh through you Warden um short
[2:52:29] answer uh around um so the mandatory
[2:52:32] trainings uh that we done so far for
[2:52:35] people leaders uh we we do do an
[2:52:38] evaluation um in in terms of uh yeah so
[2:52:42] we do do an evaluation for the mandatory
[2:52:44] trainings um in the um at last council
[2:52:48] meeting uh we had brought forward uh a
[2:52:50] report um just doing sort of INE Equity
[2:52:54] uh people in equity Department status
[2:52:56] update and there was a a section in that
[2:52:59] report that really spoke to evaluation
[2:53:01] um and so and the results of those
[2:53:03] evaluation uh coming from from staff um
[2:53:07] the around the trainings that we do that
[2:53:09] are um are voluntary uh we are not doing
[2:53:13] um evaluations for those that uh that
[2:53:16] aren't voluntary uh but it would be easy
[2:53:18] easy enough to do um an evaluation for
[2:53:21] those trainings that are not mandatory
[2:53:24] um for for staff and so
[2:53:27] um within the broader sort of picture of
[2:53:30] the of the equity strategy um was noted
[2:53:34] from staff that uh the provision of a
[2:53:37] whole host of trainings uh related to
[2:53:41] equity psychological safety inclusion um
[2:53:44] so we're trying to be responsive to
[2:53:45] those uh identified um uh requirements
[2:53:49] and requests from
[2:53:53] staff are you okay with that
[2:53:56] James yeah thank
[2:53:58] you Phil I understand you have a
[2:54:02] question uh thank you I wondering if we
[2:54:05] could just go back to uh the recruitment
[2:54:08] advertising that was mentioned briefly
[2:54:10] and if Rohan could give um sort of a
[2:54:14] description of that I miss from what I
[2:54:16] understood well no how about I just ask
[2:54:18] for what that's going to be um and out
[2:54:22] of
[2:54:24] curiosity um uh through you uh Warden uh
[2:54:28] great question uh so um in addition to
[2:54:32] sort of the traditional sort of Legacy
[2:54:34] websites that we use to to post all of
[2:54:37] our external postings uh when we are
[2:54:40] posting externally for jobs uh we also
[2:54:43] um have uh work we're working with a
[2:54:47] about three um sort of community uh
[2:54:51] Community specific job boards uh and
[2:54:54] those are around persons with
[2:54:55] disabilities uh indigenous um uh
[2:54:58] indigenous Community uh and the 2s lgbtq
[2:55:01] plus community and so these are
[2:55:04] organizations that cater directly
[2:55:07] towards those particular communities and
[2:55:09] so we also post all of our external jobs
[2:55:12] to those communities to try to enhance
[2:55:15] um uh to to have a more robust uh pool
[2:55:18] of recruits uh for all of our job
[2:55:28] postings you have more questions Phil no
[2:55:32] no just to summarize so this is
[2:55:33] basically a way of just getting word out
[2:55:37] as as far as possible to find qualified
[2:55:42] candidates affirmative yes on
[2:55:51] okay okay uh the summary for Equity um
[2:55:56] status quote increase is 7.19% with no
[2:55:59] proposed additions until
[2:56:02] 2027 health and
[2:56:06] safety government transfers is the money
[2:56:09] that we get from lower tiers we now only
[2:56:11] have three utilizing the county health
[2:56:13] and safety
[2:56:14] Services um plus we had a change in the
[2:56:16] funding model as a result at in revenues
[2:56:18] from the lower
[2:56:22] tiers expenses are down
[2:56:25] $133,000
[2:56:26] um this division includes one full-time
[2:56:30] position and we reduce the
[2:56:32] Staffing um because we removed a student
[2:56:35] position that we just haven't been
[2:56:37] filling service delivery includes costs
[2:56:40] for training provided to other divisions
[2:56:42] or organizations and there's 100% offset
[2:56:45] by other Revenue
[2:56:48] traditionally we uh offset approximately
[2:56:51] 50% of the health and safety costs from
[2:56:54] the wsib reserve fund so we have
[2:56:56] continued to do
[2:56:59] that proposed additions uh some small
[2:57:03] additions here new health and wellness
[2:57:05] program to Pro promote employee wellness
[2:57:07] and well-being of
[2:57:09] $2,500 and a series of events to promote
[2:57:12] health and safety work week of
[2:57:17] $4,000 summarizing health and safety the
[2:57:19] status quo increase shows 100% because
[2:57:23] previously it was not on the tax levy
[2:57:25] with approximately half coming from the
[2:57:27] de IB reserve and half from others that
[2:57:29] use the service uh this is one we have
[2:57:32] one of the largest increases in people
[2:57:34] in
[2:57:35] equity any questions on that
[2:57:38] division moving to learning and
[2:57:40] organizational
[2:57:43] development this division has only one
[2:57:46] employee one position
[2:57:49] some highlights corporate training
[2:57:50] includes Conflict Management resolution
[2:57:53] train the trainer for duffen Oaks staff
[2:57:56] $20,000 a leadershop workshop series of
[2:57:59] $10,000 and training to build capacity
[2:58:01] of management to support mental health
[2:58:03] in the workplace is 7 Consulting fees
[2:58:06] include development of a leadership core
[2:58:08] competency identified in the equity
[2:58:10] audit of
[2:58:13] $60,000 transfers we are pulling from
[2:58:17] the rate stabilization for the different
[2:58:18] Oaks train the trainer at $220,000 and
[2:58:21] then the development of the leadership
[2:58:23] car competencies because it's the
[2:58:24] onetime cost of
[2:58:28] $6,000 uh
[2:58:30] summary the sizeus quot increases down
[2:58:33] 8.55 because we've shifted costs to
[2:58:35] other
[2:58:36] divisions any questions on Learning and
[2:58:41] Development councelor Mills thank you
[2:58:44] madam this may not be the the
[2:58:46] place to ask but but it it's why I'm
[2:58:48] going to ask how how do we budget for um
[2:58:51] for conferences for staff and and in
[2:58:54] particular senior staff that the reason
[2:58:56] I'm asking I've noticed over the last
[2:58:59] few years that you know Duff's
[2:59:01] representation at Roma Amo I I suspect
[2:59:04] fcm is the same when it comes to our
[2:59:07] senior staff is pretty light as compared
[2:59:10] to a lot of other counties and and I'm
[2:59:11] just wondering if if there's a gap there
[2:59:14] in the budget and and we're just not
[2:59:15] allocating enough money for our senior
[2:59:17] staff to take advantage of these who am
[2:59:20] I sending this one
[2:59:22] to D you Warden uh the the amount for
[2:59:25] conferences for senior staff is included
[2:59:27] in their individual budgets under
[2:59:29] conferences and um
[2:59:31] certainly there likely is some room in
[2:59:34] those budgets for staff to attend Amo
[2:59:37] and and fcm and some of those other uh
[2:59:40] broader conferences um that's a
[2:59:44] discussion we can have there just hasn't
[2:59:46] been I don't think um
[2:59:49] the need the need to do so but I I do
[2:59:52] hear your point about there being
[2:59:53] additional representation from other
[2:59:54] counties and that's definitely something
[2:59:56] we can look
[3:00:01] at okay um the next slides are just
[3:00:04] summarizing the status quo and the um
[3:00:08] proposed increases for
[3:00:11] uh people in equity any so there's no
[3:00:14] more questions that concludes ggs
[3:00:20] thank you
[3:00:22] Amy so are we breaking for a dinner
[3:00:26] break here yeah okay and we'll return
[3:00:31] back to the table
[3:00:34] at 6:30
[3:00:36] 6:30 6:30
[3:00:40] okay and the meal is I think it's in the
[3:00:44] kitchen straight down the hall okay all
[3:00:46] right
[3:01:16] e e
[3:27:13] okay folks we'll uh come back to order
[3:27:17] and uh Amy is going to continue the Amy
[3:27:20] show and I see Raj is in the hot seat uh
[3:27:23] next so uh we'll continue on with
[3:27:26] Community Development and
[3:27:30] Tourism thank you we'll just wait uh to
[3:27:32] get the presentation
[3:27:40] up okay we're moving into Community
[3:27:42] Development and Tourism
[3:27:51] I don't have any questions on
[3:27:53] this not
[3:27:57] yet just having some technical
[3:28:00] difficulties there we go
[3:28:15] no e
[3:28:56] okay development tourism has four
[3:29:00] divisions uh you can go to the next
[3:29:01] slide building shows as zero because
[3:29:04] there's no Reliance on the tax levy
[3:29:06] combined the Departments are up 4.8%
[3:29:08] status
[3:29:10] quo and with proposed additions it's
[3:29:13] 5.93%
[3:29:16] the museum does propose some changes but
[3:29:19] the uh the revenue and the expense is n
[3:29:21] to zero so it looks like there's no
[3:29:25] increase
[3:29:27] Capital so similar to the other ones you
[3:29:30] see the orange line which is the value
[3:29:31] of the capital asset fund going up and
[3:29:33] down and the blue line Remains the
[3:29:35] Same and Museum and building both have
[3:29:44] capital okay moving on on to Building
[3:29:48] Services let's start with revenues um an
[3:29:51] amendment was made to our current fee
[3:29:53] schedule that will be in effect January
[3:29:55] 1st the Amendments capture permit fees
[3:29:58] for new items added to the building code
[3:30:00] increase fees for non-conforming permits
[3:30:02] and Enforcement cases and to provide
[3:30:05] further Clarity where there was room for
[3:30:07] misinterpretation even with all that it
[3:30:09] is still difficult to project what the
[3:30:11] actual activity will
[3:30:13] be um
[3:30:17] so the permit revenues do in have a
[3:30:20] small increase and we did remove
[3:30:22] amran the other revenue is a recovery
[3:30:25] from The Institute for National disaster
[3:30:27] for the hurricane clip
[3:30:29] program moving on to expenses expenses
[3:30:33] are up 38,000 or
[3:30:35] 1.87% salaries and benefits include 10
[3:30:37] full-time staff one contract and one
[3:30:40] summer student
[3:30:41] position other highlights it
[3:30:43] communication includes the annual fee of
[3:30:46] about $115,000 for City
[3:30:49] View vehicles and Equipment they will
[3:30:52] see a savings as they've shifted to
[3:30:55] electric vehicles and then internal
[3:30:58] Services used is a lot of those
[3:31:00] recovered amounts that we've pulled in
[3:31:02] from other
[3:31:03] [Music]
[3:31:06] divisions bill you have a
[3:31:10] question I am yes thank you through you
[3:31:13] Warden um the difference
[3:31:17] between um revenues and expenses is
[3:31:21] massive now I understand that it doesn't
[3:31:24] directly impact the levy but it is
[3:31:26] eventually going to impact um fees and I
[3:31:30] I'm I don't remember it being that big
[3:31:34] Amy could you and I don't know this
[3:31:36] isn't your department um but could you
[3:31:38] speak to when the Gap got so big and is
[3:31:42] it simply a and and why if possible
[3:31:47] yeah uh through you Warden um we added a
[3:31:50] few more staff the last few years
[3:31:53] um two or three or maybe even I think
[3:31:57] three three in the last few years which
[3:32:00] has pushed it up one of them is a
[3:32:01] contract position that is due to end
[3:32:03] next year I believe the
[3:32:04] 2-year um contract does that answer your
[3:32:12] question yeah yeah it doesn't seem to
[3:32:15] count
[3:32:17] for like they're double right expenses I
[3:32:20] think are double revenues even
[3:32:26] more yeah the other piece too like I
[3:32:28] said earlier the the actual revenues are
[3:32:31] really really hard to estimate so we
[3:32:33] kind of go off of what we think they'll
[3:32:35] be what they've been in the past year or
[3:32:37] two um and nine times out a 10 it always
[3:32:40] ends up being more than what we budget
[3:32:42] so we end up put either taking less out
[3:32:44] of the reserve or even putting money
[3:32:46] into the reserve
[3:32:47] fund um but to and I don't mean to
[3:32:51] belabor the point I don't think you have
[3:32:52] a year where you're where you're H
[3:32:56] projecting to cover costs up to 2028 if
[3:33:01] I look that that chart
[3:33:05] correctly yeah I think if I think if you
[3:33:07] do look out to 2028 we will not have
[3:33:10] enough money in the reserve
[3:33:13] fund okay
[3:33:18] okay transfers we were talking about um
[3:33:25] the sorry through you Warden um uh just
[3:33:29] to address councelor wrench's question
[3:33:31] there um we are expecting to have lower
[3:33:33] permit numbers therefore there would be
[3:33:35] lower Revenue however we will see this
[3:33:37] rise again as you can take a look at
[3:33:39] that graph you will see dips and Es and
[3:33:41] flows um and this is predicted um
[3:33:45] through the per fee study that we have
[3:33:47] undertaken so um it will eventually go
[3:33:51] up it's and like Amy mentioned it's it's
[3:33:54] sort of hard to predict at this point
[3:33:56] what exactly we're going to be seeing in
[3:33:57] terms of permit numbers but um I just
[3:33:59] wanted to add that as a point of
[3:34:08] clarification okay we are proposed well
[3:34:10] weit because it balances out to zero we
[3:34:12] have $1.2 million coming from the
[3:34:14] reserve fund in
[3:34:18] 2025 and in summary because there's no
[3:34:21] impact on the levy it's 0% increase for
[3:34:23] building any other questions for
[3:34:28] building okay moving on to the Museum of
[3:34:33] defn uh user fees include programs and
[3:34:36] tours Admissions and membership revenues
[3:34:38] government transfer includes a onetime
[3:34:41] or the grant that we receive annually
[3:34:43] which honestly I don't think it's ever
[3:34:44] changed
[3:34:46] since I started at the county um other
[3:34:48] Revenue includes an increase in
[3:34:51] Consignment Sales to better reflect what
[3:34:52] are actual has been and an increase in
[3:34:54] fundraising Revenue to support
[3:34:55] interactive exhibits to
[3:34:59] $38,000 on the expense side it's up
[3:35:02] 6.34% the museum includes seven
[3:35:04] full-time positions one part-time
[3:35:06] position and four student
[3:35:09] interns highlights uh supplies and
[3:35:12] Exhibits have increased to
[3:35:13] $48,500 to allow for more interactive
[3:35:16] program Pro programming partially offset
[3:35:18] by additional fundraising revenues
[3:35:20] programming costs um are $19,500
[3:35:24] it and Communications we have software
[3:35:27] licensing fees have increased to
[3:35:30] 17,300 and website hosting and
[3:35:32] maintenance costs have increased to
[3:35:34] 11,500 facilities include snow clearing
[3:35:37] of 15,800 which decreased by nearly half
[3:35:40] we have a small decrease in cleaning
[3:35:42] cost to
[3:35:44] 44,000 um and then general maintenance
[3:35:48] has a small increase to
[3:35:50] $75,000 and the internal Services
[3:35:52] recovered is just an allocation of
[3:35:54] support costs primarily from the
[3:35:55] facility
[3:35:58] staff transfers a small amount is
[3:36:00] included to offset operating cost each
[3:36:03] year $88,000 from the museum trust any
[3:36:07] excess any excess fundraising or
[3:36:09] donation Revenue received is transferred
[3:36:12] back to the museum
[3:36:14] trust there are are a couple of proposed
[3:36:16] additions The Net Zero uh the net to
[3:36:20] zero uh they're looking at adding
[3:36:22] additional events to increased visitor
[3:36:24] engagement specifically for Halloween
[3:36:25] and family day of
[3:36:27] $1,000 there's a new grounds maintenance
[3:36:29] program to allow for natural asset
[3:36:31] management of
[3:36:33] 4,000 and lastly new Revenue generating
[3:36:36] opportunities resulting in a rise in
[3:36:38] bookings and revenue for space rentals
[3:36:40] of 5,000 I just want to touch based on
[3:36:42] the natural Asset Management you're
[3:36:43] going to see that in a number of
[3:36:45] buildings it's something new that our
[3:36:46] facility department has is rolling out
[3:36:49] we found that we've been neglecting our
[3:36:51] trees and it's just um money to go in
[3:36:54] prune trees and ensure that they they're
[3:36:57] all
[3:36:58] good um moving on to the capital asset
[3:37:02] fund looking at the bottom line You'll
[3:37:04] see how the capital asset fund decreases
[3:37:05] over the next few years this is due to
[3:37:08] the value of the
[3:37:09] work over the next little bit next slide
[3:37:15] uh the prior your carry forward
[3:37:18] $228,000 includes um some electrical
[3:37:21] work
[3:37:22] of
[3:37:24] $150,000 Museum window Windows of 20
[3:37:27] exterior doors of 242 and museum water
[3:37:30] tank heater of $4,000 which I think it's
[3:37:34] been carried for it a couple years we
[3:37:36] won't replace it until it really needs
[3:37:37] it and then the balance is just savings
[3:37:40] on other
[3:37:42] projects uh tax L requirements remain
[3:37:44] unchanged between 24 and
[3:37:46] 25 um moving to Capital
[3:37:50] Work Land improvements we have parking
[3:37:53] lot um is due for replacement of
[3:37:55] $150,000 buildings we have updates to
[3:37:58] the fire alarm panel Transformer and
[3:38:00] switch gears of
[3:38:01] 31,000 window replacements a 20 and a
[3:38:04] carryover from
[3:38:05] 2024 um to make the front doors more
[3:38:08] accessible of
[3:38:11] 26,000 to summarize the museum status
[3:38:14] quo operating is 5. 59% when you add in
[3:38:17] capital it's 5.25 and then with um
[3:38:20] additions it's still 5.25 any questions
[3:38:23] for
[3:38:27] Museum moving on to land use planning
[3:38:30] user fees are planning fees and
[3:38:34] government transfer is actually funding
[3:38:36] from the lower tiers for the services we
[3:38:38] provide
[3:38:39] them on the expense side it's up 36,000
[3:38:43] or 6.77%
[3:38:46] they are there are three full-time
[3:38:48] positions within this
[3:38:50] division other highlights uh we have
[3:38:52] legal fees of $10,000 to address any
[3:38:55] matters related to the Ontario land
[3:38:57] tribunal due to provincial planning
[3:38:58] statement Conformity and disputes
[3:39:01] Consulting includes 15,000 for asset
[3:39:03] mapping infrastructure and servicing
[3:39:05] needs 10,000 for boundary expansion and
[3:39:08] agricultural assessments 10,000 related
[3:39:11] to official plan Amendment approvals for
[3:39:13] intensification of conformity and
[3:39:15] $20,000 for settlement boundary
[3:39:20] assessments uh we are we've included a
[3:39:24] small amount from the rate stabilization
[3:39:26] just to mitigate um ongoing
[3:39:29] increases to summarize planning the net
[3:39:32] increas is 5.3% any questions on
[3:39:38] planning moving along to Economic
[3:39:43] Development other Revenue includes uh
[3:39:46] $10,000 of
[3:39:48] anti $10,000 for selling ad spaces and
[3:39:52] paid content in the 2025 explore Duff
[3:39:56] guide the expenses are actually down
[3:39:59] 47,000 because TW last year included the
[3:40:02] um strap the economic development
[3:40:04] strategic plan there are two full-time
[3:40:06] positions within this
[3:40:08] division other highlights in admitted
[3:40:10] office um hosting indust industry
[3:40:13] Roundtable meetings we have 5,000 set
[3:40:15] aside Consulting fees for sector plans
[3:40:18] and strategies of 20,000 and explore
[3:40:20] duffing guide of 60 Grand Service
[3:40:23] delivery includes $40,000 for the small
[3:40:25] business Enterprise Center two community
[3:40:28] events of $20,000 tourism development of
[3:40:31] 20 and sector development projects for
[3:40:33] another
[3:40:35] 20 it and communication includes website
[3:40:38] hosting and maintenance of 15,000 as
[3:40:40] well as software Annual fees for
[3:40:41] customer relationship management
[3:40:43] software of $10,000
[3:40:46] proposed additions in 2025 net to
[3:40:49] $25,000 the development of a community
[3:40:52] Improvement plan to support investment
[3:40:54] the planning act does allow
[3:40:55] municipalities to designate Community
[3:40:57] Improvement project areas to offer
[3:40:59] financial and non-financial incentives
[3:41:02] to create employment opportunities and
[3:41:04] amenities we are proposing $80,000 for
[3:41:07] this project come from the rate
[3:41:09] stabilization reserve and then the
[3:41:11] development implementation of the
[3:41:13] investment attraction program in cons
[3:41:15] consultation with local municipalities
[3:41:17] to promote different to investors and
[3:41:19] site selectors domestic and
[3:41:21] international by highlighting the
[3:41:23] competitive advantage of locating and
[3:41:25] starting a business here we have $25,000
[3:41:27] in the budget any questions on
[3:41:33] those
[3:41:35] just councilor Garrett just could you go
[3:41:39] back one just thinking of the the
[3:41:42] investment attraction program
[3:41:46] is that is that enough like it's it I
[3:41:50] see how you could get through that uh
[3:41:52] amount of money very
[3:41:54] quickly um and I think it's a it's it's
[3:41:58] an important piece for economic
[3:41:59] development so just curious Raj can you
[3:42:02] explain this was supposed to have
[3:42:03] happened this fall and it it
[3:42:06] wasn't or is it the same
[3:42:09] thing through you uh uh Warden um
[3:42:13] councelor Garretts you do raise a a good
[3:42:15] Point um but maybe I'll just clarify
[3:42:18] what what the warden is referring to
[3:42:20] that was um our investment uh attraction
[3:42:26] day um and that has been pushed to
[3:42:28] Spring of 2025 so that's completely
[3:42:30] different it's a separate line item but
[3:42:33] what the investment attraction program
[3:42:34] really speaks to um and if I can just
[3:42:37] add a little bit of detail here um we
[3:42:39] were one of 10 municipalities that were
[3:42:42] selected to go um and Pitch to tourism
[3:42:45] development site selectors uh this year
[3:42:48] so it was it was an amazing experience
[3:42:50] um and we were one of two rural
[3:42:52] municipalities that went and presented a
[3:42:54] different County um to to different
[3:42:57] tourism developers one of them being
[3:42:59] hawkley Valley um they were there along
[3:43:01] with the Marriott and uh Hilton so in
[3:43:05] order for us to continue to do that type
[3:43:07] of work um you're absolutely right
[3:43:09] councelor Garretts 25,000 is is a a drop
[3:43:12] in the bucket but um given the fact that
[3:43:16] our overall budget came in at 5% I was
[3:43:18] trying to be conservative when coming up
[3:43:21] with that number um but we have
[3:43:23] developed um an Investors Guide which
[3:43:25] has done fairly well we've actually won
[3:43:27] two Awards um for the Investors Guide so
[3:43:29] we're well on our way but I mean if if
[3:43:32] it Council so wishes to give me more
[3:43:35] money I don't say no to that um but
[3:43:37] 25,000 does get us started at least
[3:43:46] um if you notice in the 2020 go back
[3:43:49] slide 2627 we are slowly increasing that
[3:43:52] amount under a new 2025 expense for the
[3:43:56] investment attration
[3:43:58] program to summarize Economic
[3:44:00] Development the stus quote operating is
[3:44:02] 3.49% and with the proposed additions
[3:44:04] it's
[3:44:06] 8.33 and then again the last two slides
[3:44:09] are just summarizing the status quo and
[3:44:12] the proposed increases
[3:44:18] any further
[3:44:21] questions you got off lightly garage
[3:44:51] maybe Council Garrett yeah maybe while
[3:44:55] we're waiting we we could have a
[3:44:56] discussion at the council level if we
[3:44:58] want to increase that uh at this point
[3:45:01] the the 25,000 for the the
[3:45:03] implementation plan I I think personally
[3:45:05] I think uh I would like to see an amount
[3:45:08] that uh the department can do a good job
[3:45:13] I appreciate uh trying to save money but
[3:45:16] I I think
[3:45:17] it's uh it's important I think it's
[3:45:21] important so I'd like to know I guess if
[3:45:23] that's if the real number is is 50 and
[3:45:27] and where we go from here so I don't
[3:45:28] know if you've got a
[3:45:30] number in
[3:45:34] Mind through you Warden do you want me
[3:45:36] to go back to where Brenda okay
[3:45:38] excellent um the the real number that
[3:45:42] ultimately we came up with
[3:45:45] um when we were developing the
[3:45:47] investment attraction strategy itself
[3:45:50] was closer to 880,000
[3:45:53] um but like I said I was trying to be
[3:45:55] conservative given the fact that our our
[3:45:57] overall budget uh did come in at 5%
[3:46:02] so yeah I think it personally I I'd like
[3:46:06] to see it go up I don't know to what
[3:46:08] level I think I still need to to think
[3:46:10] about that if anyone else has a
[3:46:11] suggestion um happy to hear it but I I
[3:46:15] do think it's it's an
[3:46:17] important tool for all the
[3:46:19] municipalities and and duffen uh to have
[3:46:24] so councelor Taylor did you have a
[3:46:28] comment the only thing I was going to
[3:46:29] say is it's similar to what you were
[3:46:31] saying Chris which is why I prom
[3:46:33] prompted you is uh sometimes when you
[3:46:35] spend money um a little bit is a waste
[3:46:40] it's a joke it doesn't go far it doesn't
[3:46:42] do what it's intended um but I I'm not
[3:46:44] from Amar enough with what we're trying
[3:46:46] to accomplish and even to say the 80
[3:46:48] grand I don't know what that is so it's
[3:46:50] hard to make an interpretation at this
[3:46:53] point but uh I don't know where we go
[3:46:55] with it because I don't I don't feel
[3:46:57] like I don't have the information but it
[3:46:59] feels like it's just not enough to
[3:47:01] sustain a a good
[3:47:04] program councelor guardhouse through
[3:47:06] Warden um I would make this suggesting
[3:47:09] that we put that on the list of
[3:47:10] considerations right now right now that
[3:47:13] we' come back to it and whether we want
[3:47:14] want to increase it or keeps Tas quo but
[3:47:17] we'll we'll think about it and when it
[3:47:19] comes back we'll have the opportunity to
[3:47:21] to consider it because it is points are
[3:47:23] taken that have been
[3:47:29] made okay last last piece Brenda now
[3:47:32] you're in the hot
[3:47:36] seat okay Health and Human
[3:47:41] Services consists of community services
[3:47:44] stuff Oaks paramedics and public health
[3:47:47] so we're going to start with Community
[3:47:49] Services there are currently three
[3:47:51] divisions within Community Services with
[3:47:54] the status quo decrease of0
[3:47:57] 41% moving to the increased includ the
[3:48:00] proposed addition slide we add a new
[3:48:03] division that we're calling housing
[3:48:05] strategy which leaves us at 12.3% 12.36%
[3:48:11] increase Community Services capital
[3:48:15] similar to all the other ones the
[3:48:16] capital asset fund does go up and down
[3:48:18] as the value of work um goes up and
[3:48:22] down Capital includes both housing and u
[3:48:27] m Mel Burnside
[3:48:30] Village early years in child
[3:48:35] care on the revenue side we've actually
[3:48:37] seen a small a reduction in our regular
[3:48:40] Child Care funding of 2.8 million as our
[3:48:43] as the funding shifts to sewel which
[3:48:46] increased by more than $1 million for a
[3:48:49] net increase of just over $8
[3:48:51] million the other Revenue includes um as
[3:48:55] we get additional subsidies it also
[3:48:56] means we are able to have ADM Revenue to
[3:49:01] offset our admin cost so this is just
[3:49:03] allocating the revenue from the
[3:49:05] programming lines to the
[3:49:08] admin on the expense side there's eight
[3:49:11] full-time and seven part-time um staff
[3:49:15] the total increase there sorry in
[3:49:16] expenses is
[3:49:18] 8.43
[3:49:20] million or
[3:49:22] 50% um back to the staff early in 2024
[3:49:25] we did add a third Community Services
[3:49:27] worker to support the increased
[3:49:28] requirements of seawalk which is
[3:49:30] contributing to the large increase in
[3:49:32] salaries and
[3:49:35] benefits highlights within Service
[3:49:37] delivery um with the increase in funding
[3:49:40] becomes the increase in Service delivery
[3:49:41] of the net uh increase of over $8
[3:49:43] million
[3:49:45] and then the internal Services used as a
[3:49:47] allocation of support cost from other
[3:49:48] departments including
[3:49:51] Finance proposed additions um the net
[3:49:55] for 2025 is
[3:49:57] $107,000 uh this is previously committed
[3:49:59] is the data and funding analyst position
[3:50:02] that was approved at the September
[3:50:03] council meeting uh they're responsible
[3:50:05] for providing support to Defence
[3:50:07] licensed childcare
[3:50:09] sector and Council approved this
[3:50:11] temporary position as a 12-month
[3:50:13] contract and it is anticipated that
[3:50:14] based on funding a request to create a
[3:50:16] permanent position will be proposed in
[3:50:18] 2026 budget which is the proposed
[3:50:20] Staffing line included in the
[3:50:23] chart any questions on
[3:50:27] that to summarize early years in child
[3:50:30] care due to additional funding the
[3:50:32] status quo is a net decrease of 8.69 and
[3:50:35] with the proposed additions it becomes
[3:50:37] an increase of
[3:50:39] 1.55% moving on to
[3:50:43] housing the revenue side rent is
[3:50:45] certainly a large portion of their
[3:50:47] revenues as it's government transfers
[3:50:49] we're seeing a decrease in subsidies as
[3:50:52] agreements with our um housing providers
[3:50:54] are expiring the other decrease relates
[3:50:57] to the reaching home program where we
[3:50:59] budgeted based on what we knew at the
[3:51:01] time and since that we pulled these
[3:51:02] numbers together we did learn that we
[3:51:04] will be getting
[3:51:05] more other re Revenue similar to early
[3:51:08] years in childcare is primarily the
[3:51:10] allocation of administrative funding
[3:51:12] from the various programs
[3:51:15] councelor
[3:51:16] Nicks maybe I'm on the next page
[3:51:18] expenses I do you I'll wait till you
[3:51:21] finish revenue and then I have a
[3:51:22] question on expenses I'm done oh okay I
[3:51:26] in looking at the total expenses what
[3:51:28] the thought that went through my mind we
[3:51:31] discussed at Council the possibility of
[3:51:33] doing something with the parking lot on
[3:51:34] Elizabeth Street and I I can't remember
[3:51:37] how far we got with that discussion I
[3:51:39] think there was some sense of urgency to
[3:51:41] get it done before this term of council
[3:51:43] was over is there any anything in this
[3:51:45] expense budget that is is
[3:51:48] anticipating doing something with the
[3:51:51] parking lot in Elizabeth
[3:51:53] Street Brenda do you want to answer this
[3:51:56] actually I can I can answer this so
[3:51:58] there's actually a new division called
[3:51:59] housing strategy which focuses on just
[3:52:03] that we'll get
[3:52:05] to So within um the housing expenses the
[3:52:08] net expenses are down
[3:52:11] $114,000 uh the housing division has 10
[3:52:14] full time positions and one full-time
[3:52:16] contract position it also includes two
[3:52:18] housing stability positions um that
[3:52:21] report to Ontario Works leadership the
[3:52:24] net decrease in salaries and benefits
[3:52:26] are a result of Shifting internal
[3:52:28] positions to external agencies and are
[3:52:30] offset by the increase in Service
[3:52:34] delivery highlights there's uh savings
[3:52:36] within admin office of
[3:52:38] $218,000 as debentures on the original
[3:52:40] housing buildings um have been paid off
[3:52:44] Service delivery includes increases to
[3:52:47] the rent supplement program of $80,000
[3:52:49] and um shift of the reaching home funds
[3:52:51] from salary to Service delivery of
[3:52:54] 258 and then the internal services use
[3:52:58] is an adjustment to reflect the actual
[3:53:00] time um and costs of facility staff
[3:53:03] supporting the
[3:53:04] division on to
[3:53:06] transfers uh we continue to apply
[3:53:08] reserves to offset the inability to
[3:53:10] collect and apply development charges to
[3:53:12] housing we have establish that a plan a
[3:53:16] couple years ago over a couple we have a
[3:53:18] few more years to
[3:53:21] go councelor Garrett just back to
[3:53:24] expenses I did ask a question in advance
[3:53:27] Brenda answered and it was whether or
[3:53:28] not the rent rent supplement is maxed
[3:53:30] every year the answer was yes but I
[3:53:33] probably should have asked uh I think
[3:53:35] you just mentioned how much we increase
[3:53:37] it on an annual basis and actually like
[3:53:39] what is how much are we uh spending on
[3:53:42] that
[3:53:45] sorry to put you on the spot I tried my
[3:53:46] best to to ask all my questions in
[3:53:48] advance but I I I forgot
[3:53:53] one so that would really depend on what
[3:53:56] we do receive um through subsidy for
[3:54:00] that but each year we do re when we do
[3:54:02] receive those we do Max it out okay
[3:54:05] because I was just thinking you know I
[3:54:06] think when we were talking about the
[3:54:08] parking lot at the council level there
[3:54:10] was some hesitancy to do anything before
[3:54:13] we had the
[3:54:15] the task force in place perhaps and so I
[3:54:19] was just wondering if this is something
[3:54:21] we can uh increase to make an impact
[3:54:24] right away you I used to have a building
[3:54:26] and I had tenants who used this program
[3:54:28] great program um so that's all I was I
[3:54:32] was thinking I think Amy's got an answer
[3:54:34] for this yeah sorry housing is ingrained
[3:54:37] in me because that's where I started
[3:54:38] when I joined the county um so the rent
[3:54:41] supplement
[3:54:43] program there's two portions to it one
[3:54:45] is funded and one is not really funded
[3:54:49] we do get a little bit of subsidy still
[3:54:51] but as the agreements run out we're no
[3:54:52] longer getting Federal funding which is
[3:54:55] I think there's a decrease there of 68
[3:54:58] uh we have proposed in the or we have
[3:54:59] included in the budget
[3:55:01] $824,000 for total rents up which
[3:55:03] includes I think maybe2 200 which is
[3:55:07] funded through reaching
[3:55:11] home okay thanks I think that's another
[3:55:14] one I would like to discuss further
[3:55:17] maybe at the next meeting because like I
[3:55:20] said I think that's something where we
[3:55:22] can make an impact right away rather
[3:55:24] than waiting to build
[3:55:25] buildings um so the rent sub program if
[3:55:29] I may um we do have agreements with a
[3:55:32] number of different buildings and I know
[3:55:35] that we've had a little bit of
[3:55:36] difficulty the last few years getting
[3:55:38] more um landlords to um to to agree to
[3:55:44] it
[3:55:44] which is why I know that the housing
[3:55:46] staff have shifted to um the housing
[3:55:50] allowance okay which we then kind of
[3:55:54] give the money to them I think and just
[3:55:55] so then the difference would be the
[3:55:57] supplement goes to the landlord uh which
[3:56:00] is the program I was involved in the
[3:56:02] allowance would be an amount that goes
[3:56:04] to the individual yes okay I get it
[3:56:07] thanks anybody
[3:56:10] else
[3:56:12] okay um
[3:56:14] proposed
[3:56:16] [Music]
[3:56:18] additions um all we have here is the new
[3:56:20] grounds maintenance program to uh
[3:56:23] support the
[3:56:31] trees uh moving on to Capital the
[3:56:33] capital asset fund is expected to go
[3:56:35] down over the next few years before it
[3:56:37] um goes up but the capital Levy will
[3:56:41] remain relatively
[3:56:42] constant in ter terms of the carry
[3:56:44] forward the majority relates to Windows
[3:56:46] and Doors of $890,000 that we
[3:56:51] um are carrying forward and an HVAC
[3:56:54] project of 250 that we've actually
[3:56:56] shifted to
[3:56:59] 2026 um in relation to contributions we
[3:57:03] do have a little bit of money coming
[3:57:05] from
[3:57:05] cmhc that we we receiv received a pot of
[3:57:08] money that we can apply over a 3-year
[3:57:12] period there is approximately $2.2
[3:57:15] million of planned work for
[3:57:21] 2025 it includes updates to exterior
[3:57:24] walkways of
[3:57:26] $195,000 um which includes the trail
[3:57:29] behind 43 beia towards John Street as
[3:57:32] well as parking lot updates of $30,000
[3:57:35] which
[3:57:36] is I believe it's just Consulting for
[3:57:38] future work and then equipment and
[3:57:41] Machinery we have appliances that are
[3:57:43] replace on an ASN basis we have $62,000
[3:57:46] in the
[3:57:48] budget the buildings we have a Contin uh
[3:57:51] continuation of the security upgrade
[3:57:53] project of 105 Electric electrical
[3:57:56] upgrades including indoor and outdoor
[3:57:58] lighting as well as fire alarm panels of
[3:58:01] 77,000 H back includes regular
[3:58:03] replacement of boilers and planning for
[3:58:05] 2026 Replacements of
[3:58:07] 92,000 kitchen bathroom and unit
[3:58:10] flooring are updated as required and we
[3:58:12] have $352,000 in the budget for for that
[3:58:15] flooring also includes common room and
[3:58:17] hallway updates of 188 we have window
[3:58:20] replacements of $760,000 and then
[3:58:23] entrance vestibule balcony and other
[3:58:25] exterior door Replacements of
[3:58:30] $150,000 summarizing housing the S quo
[3:58:33] operating is 1.65 with capital it's
[3:58:36] 1.35% and with a proposed additions it's
[3:58:39] 2.17 any further questions on housing
[3:58:46] Ontario
[3:58:48] Works there is a small increase in the
[3:58:51] administration funding of $45,600
[3:58:53] the majority of the Interior work
[3:58:55] subsidies are dependent on the actual
[3:58:57] costs other revenues are recoveries of
[3:59:00] monies previously flowed to clients and
[3:59:02] for the most part are remitted right
[3:59:04] back to the
[3:59:06] province Ontario Works has 12 full-time
[3:59:09] positions and supports the housing
[3:59:11] stability team uh regular increase es
[3:59:14] have been offset by attrition due to the
[3:59:17] reduction in funding in
[3:59:20] 2024 I didn't include any highlights for
[3:59:24] the other expenses within admin because
[3:59:26] they're pretty um much the same I will
[3:59:28] note on the service delivery there's a
[3:59:30] decrease there and that directly relates
[3:59:32] to the change in the funding
[3:59:35] program transfers we did include a
[3:59:38] transfer to offset um the decrease in
[3:59:41] funding in 2024 we had originally
[3:59:43] planned to do that 25 as well but with
[3:59:45] the attrition we no longer need to do
[3:59:47] that as well as the additional funding
[3:59:49] and then we have a small allocation to
[3:59:51] um it capital for future replacement of
[3:59:56] equipment proposed additions we have
[4:00:00] proposed increase from Headwaters
[4:00:01] community in action to better support
[4:00:03] the community I mentioned that um in the
[4:00:05] council section as well as an additional
[4:00:09] uh $20,000 to support DC moves are there
[4:00:12] any questions on these
[4:00:20] summarizing Ontario Works the status
[4:00:22] quot operating is a decrease of
[4:00:24] 41% with proposed additions the total
[4:00:26] increase is
[4:00:31] 5.07 next is housing
[4:00:36] strategy this is a new division um it
[4:00:39] includes funds to support the execution
[4:00:41] of the housing strategy plan
[4:00:46] proposed additions so salaries and
[4:00:48] benefits for Project Lead for
[4:00:50] implementation of the housing strategy
[4:00:52] of
[4:00:53] $130,000 plus 4500 for admin and it
[4:00:56] related
[4:00:58] costs Consulting to assist with next
[4:01:01] steps of $50,000 and a transfer to
[4:01:03] reserve of 500,000 has been included to
[4:01:06] set aside funds for potential future
[4:01:08] Capital
[4:01:12] work coun White
[4:01:16] thanks won uh first of all I I'm
[4:01:19] learning on Monday I'm going to try to
[4:01:21] not to use any bot statements so good
[4:01:24] for I I absolutely support the project
[4:01:26] manager piece absolutely we uh We've set
[4:01:29] a course and we need to follow through
[4:01:31] with it uh
[4:01:33] and uh given uh Steve's comments earlier
[4:01:38] I mean we are in a challenging financial
[4:01:41] situation economically uh at at the
[4:01:44] moment uh people are being squeezed from
[4:01:46] a lot of different sides in April we
[4:01:49] Face uh fairly significant interest
[4:01:51] increase in the carbon tax um there's
[4:01:55] new rules coming around the capital
[4:01:57] capital gains that are not back by
[4:02:00] legislation but that's besides Point um
[4:02:02] and given what uh the incoming president
[4:02:05] is suggesting he may or may not do um
[4:02:09] you know certainly a lot of people in
[4:02:10] Duff are going to be squeezed by that
[4:02:12] not the least of which is anybody in the
[4:02:14] farming industry who deals with
[4:02:16] commodity prices on a regular basis um
[4:02:19] you know costs are going to go up uh
[4:02:22] revenues will probably go down and
[4:02:23] that'll have a knock on effect on just
[4:02:25] about every other business in Du County
[4:02:28] um so I would think uh given that this
[4:02:31] is the first year of the Project Lead uh
[4:02:34] position maybe there's a way we could
[4:02:36] fund that out of reserves uh because
[4:02:40] reserves essentially are are u a lot of
[4:02:43] them are supposed to to be rainy day
[4:02:44] funds and it's raining uh so maybe
[4:02:47] there's a way we can uh take roll back
[4:02:50] the budget increase a little bit by
[4:02:52] using reserves for the first year of
[4:02:54] this position it's already built into
[4:02:57] the proposed next year's budget uh so
[4:03:00] that maybe that should be something we
[4:03:01] should look at even if it's a reduction
[4:03:04] in the transfer to reserve that offsets
[4:03:07] maybe that's a way we could you know
[4:03:09] maybe lower our increase a little bit
[4:03:25] is there an amount that you would like
[4:03:27] me to include with
[4:03:29] that well I think we could probably look
[4:03:31] at moving that entire amount into
[4:03:33] Reserves at least for the first year
[4:03:35] until we sort of have a better
[4:03:37] understanding of where we're going with
[4:03:39] with that which is the whole point of
[4:03:40] bringing on the project lead
[4:03:46] y we can do
[4:03:48] that I didn't I didn't quite understand
[4:03:52] the last comment move what the the
[4:03:54] 500,000 is that what you're
[4:03:56] 134 essentially I'll just apply
[4:03:59] $134,800 from reserves to offset the
[4:04:03] cost of the Project
[4:04:11] Lead that is Direction
[4:04:15] it's on the list we have it on the list
[4:04:22] list okay um councelor mlan sorry just
[4:04:25] to clarify though so the the plans don't
[4:04:28] change you're just looking at how to
[4:04:30] fund it differently to reduce the levy
[4:04:32] is that right okay thank
[4:04:35] you
[4:04:40] Phil thank you um
[4:04:44] this is my only um strategic plan
[4:04:48] priority and so in that sense I I
[4:04:51] support well I I support doing a lot
[4:04:53] more than what we're doing and a lot
[4:04:55] faster
[4:04:57] um saying that my understanding from the
[4:05:02] housing
[4:05:04] strategy was there wasn't going to be
[4:05:09] anything built for a number of
[4:05:12] years and that makes me curious as to
[4:05:16] what the Project Lead would be
[4:05:19] doing and why we would also need in
[4:05:23] addition to having a Project Lead we
[4:05:25] would
[4:05:26] require uh another
[4:05:29] $50,000 for consulting services so um I
[4:05:34] I don't know who could address that but
[4:05:37] if somebody could take a stab at it I'd
[4:05:39] really appreciate
[4:05:41] it through you Warden herner I I will
[4:05:44] take a step at it and and if I get into
[4:05:46] trouble I'm going to look to Brenda for
[4:05:47] some
[4:05:48] help um so as you recall at the council
[4:05:52] meeting when the housing strategy was
[4:05:54] reviewed there was some direction given
[4:05:56] to try and expedite a process where we
[4:05:59] would identify three properties that
[4:06:01] could be um given a priority and so uh
[4:06:05] there have been some conversations with
[4:06:07] the Consulting team that was working on
[4:06:09] the original part of of the project and
[4:06:12] they are moving ahead with figuring out
[4:06:16] what the next piece of implementation
[4:06:17] would look like and part of that next
[4:06:19] role is to work with the um planning
[4:06:22] staff in both Orangeville and shelburn
[4:06:25] uh to ter to determine um how those
[4:06:29] particular sites that were identified
[4:06:32] could actually accommodate uh the
[4:06:34] properties within sort of the planning
[4:06:35] constraints within both of those
[4:06:37] municipalities so that a a fair amount
[4:06:39] of that Consulting uh number is to get
[4:06:43] that work done so that we know exactly
[4:06:45] from a planning perspective um how we
[4:06:49] could move which Pro which properties
[4:06:52] are the top three because we that
[4:06:54] original list was done just on a a
[4:06:56] preliminary assessment but now we're
[4:06:58] doing sort of the real deep dive
[4:06:59] assessment on which three properties
[4:07:01] would work the best and then once that
[4:07:04] is done uh which will be quite soon and
[4:07:07] there's also some consultation that goes
[4:07:09] along with that because we don't want to
[4:07:10] pick three properties and then find out
[4:07:12] that you know from a from a community
[4:07:15] perspective or from a servicing
[4:07:16] perspective it doesn't make any sense uh
[4:07:18] and then the Project Lead would come
[4:07:20] into onto the scene and take over from
[4:07:23] there and start to really bring together
[4:07:25] the resources required to start
[4:07:26] developing plans for those specific
[4:07:29] three properties to look at funding
[4:07:31] opportunities that could be utilized and
[4:07:34] to find most importantly to find
[4:07:36] Partners who could actually build and
[4:07:39] operate those fa facilities on those
[4:07:42] three properties so that's the
[4:07:44] preliminary plan as we see it now there
[4:07:46] may need to be some tweaks but that's
[4:07:48] pretty much how it looks at this
[4:07:52] point anyone
[4:07:54] else okay Brenda you're off the hook on
[4:07:57] that
[4:08:00] one okay
[4:08:03] Amy okay
[4:08:07] so the next slide where am
[4:08:12] I okay Community servic is done move on
[4:08:16] to
[4:08:18] defo the status quo increase uh for all
[4:08:21] of duffo is 74% it includes Long-Term
[4:08:24] Care Community Support Services and
[4:08:26] maloid
[4:08:27] Center um you'll notice that there's a
[4:08:30] big increase in meloid center and a
[4:08:33] decrease in long-term care and that 100%
[4:08:37] relates to Capital there's a growing
[4:08:39] need in meloid Center in 2025 for more
[4:08:42] Capital dollars so all that I've done
[4:08:45] here is I've reduced the contribution to
[4:08:47] capital for long-term care and increased
[4:08:49] it by exactly the same amount and the
[4:08:51] meloid center which is
[4:08:56] $200,000 um there are some proposed
[4:08:59] additions which result in four the
[4:09:02] increase being
[4:09:04] 4.82 and then we have a
[4:09:07] capital there's a they have a lot a
[4:09:09] couple of really large projects you'll
[4:09:11] see in 2025 the triple bar is quite high
[4:09:15] and then we pretty much deplete the fund
[4:09:18] and then we need to build it up again
[4:09:20] for future large
[4:09:24] projects okay we're going to move into
[4:09:25] long-term
[4:09:27] care user fees are revenues from
[4:09:29] residents which have seen an increase
[4:09:31] over the last year uh we've also seen
[4:09:34] increases to Ministry funding
[4:09:36] particularly aimed at addressing
[4:09:38] increased Direct Care Staffing
[4:09:40] requirements
[4:09:43] on the expense side at the time we
[4:09:46] pulled this together we had 118
[4:09:48] full-time and 1331 part-time positions
[4:09:51] at duffen Oaks including six contract
[4:09:54] positions as somebody who sees payroll
[4:09:58] quite often it changes constantly
[4:10:00] there's people always coming and always
[4:10:03] going um the
[4:10:05] increase uh in the salaries and benefits
[4:10:08] are you going to do next slide T we did
[4:10:10] add additional hours due to the
[4:10:12] increased funding as well we shifted to
[4:10:14] social worker from an external contract
[4:10:16] to full-time position in 2024 and the
[4:10:19] balance is just regular Staffing
[4:10:26] increases um expenses 2024 included
[4:10:30] $150,000 for the older adult study uh
[4:10:32] which is leading to a decrease in
[4:10:34] admitted office in 2025 we have an
[4:10:37] increase in legal fees to support Union
[4:10:39] negotiations of SE um to
[4:10:41] $70,000 additional amount
[4:10:43] have been included for a multi-year
[4:10:45] project to replace office furniture
[4:10:49] $14,500 Service delivery includes uh
[4:10:52] $910,000 for food we have
[4:10:56] $233,400 for external contracts to
[4:10:58] support the residents and nearly
[4:11:01] $635,000 in supplies and products to
[4:11:03] support staff and residents and then the
[4:11:06] internal Services uh used is the it
[4:11:09] position that we talked about earlier in
[4:11:11] ggs
[4:11:14] transfers um we do have a transfer from
[4:11:17] the wsib uh fund to offset Associated
[4:11:20] costs we talked about the um claim and
[4:11:24] um Insurance costs within people in
[4:11:26] equity but we do charge directly
[4:11:28] different Oak shared at different
[4:11:31] Oaks and then
[4:11:35] um the
[4:11:37] $172,000 is an allocation to Capital of
[4:11:40] uh funding that they receive
[4:11:44] for proposed additions the net increase
[4:11:46] is
[4:11:46] $64,000 and relates to the medical
[4:11:49] secretary um proposed to start in March
[4:11:53] at a cost of $61,200 plus 4500 for um
[4:11:58] and support costs in a
[4:11:59] laptop and then the annualized cost is
[4:12:02] $74,000 are there any questions on that
[4:12:05] for
[4:12:10] Brenda okay
[4:12:15] the capital asset
[4:12:16] fund uh lots of ups and done Downs over
[4:12:20] the next couple years for the for
[4:12:21] longterm
[4:12:23] care the amount uh the 1.48 for the
[4:12:27] prior year carry forward this includes
[4:12:29] uh fire alarm panels of 220 security of
[4:12:33] 400 and nurse
[4:12:35] call and the balance of that is um we
[4:12:38] actually received some additional
[4:12:40] funding in 2024 that we were able to
[4:12:42] apply applied to the capital asset fund
[4:12:44] instead of using um the tax levy dollars
[4:12:48] so we I think added an additional over
[4:12:51] $500,000 to the fund so that's what that
[4:12:56] is um contributions as I said earlier
[4:13:01] there's a significant decrease in the
[4:13:02] capital um
[4:13:04] Levy for long-term
[4:13:08] care uh yeah I already spoke about this
[4:13:10] so I don't to speak it again so other
[4:13:11] revenue is the allocation of preven
[4:13:13] itial funding from operating of about
[4:13:16] $192,000 Capital work is just over $3.1
[4:13:20] million for
[4:13:23] 2025 land
[4:13:25] improvements and we have exterior
[4:13:27] walkway um and patios of $440,000 you
[4:13:31] can go the next one um buildings include
[4:13:33] security of 400,000 updates of the fire
[4:13:36] alarm
[4:13:38] panel our largest project um is the
[4:13:41] replacement of four roof top units at
[4:13:43] $1.75 million Renovations of
[4:13:47] housekeeping closets at 25,000 and
[4:13:49] replacement of laundry room floor of $
[4:13:53] 35,000 uh within equipment and Machinery
[4:13:55] we have regular replacement of mass
[4:13:57] Raiders of $24,000 we have kitchen
[4:14:00] laundry and bathing equipment of 94,000
[4:14:02] furniture of 66 and lifts of
[4:14:06] $60,000 Vehicles include an ongoing
[4:14:08] replacement of the Community Support
[4:14:10] Services 2025 includes 24
[4:14:13] ,000 for two accessible wheelchair
[4:14:17] vans other includes the nurse call
[4:14:20] upgrades which started in
[4:14:23] 2024 uh we included
[4:14:26] $150,000 in the 2025 budget as we
[4:14:29] anticipated work would commence in 2024
[4:14:31] we actually need to increase the two
[4:14:33] this to
[4:14:34] 275 um they just weren't able to get
[4:14:38] started on the work they had some issues
[4:14:39] with the with the um vendor um the funds
[4:14:42] of already been raised or included in
[4:14:45] that 1
[4:14:46] point six or whatever it was that we
[4:14:48] carried forward so it's just increas in
[4:14:50] the work value no impact on the tax
[4:14:54] levy summarizing Long-Term Care status
[4:14:57] quo operating is 05% when we add in
[4:15:00] capital it decreases to minus 3.44 and
[4:15:04] then with the proposed additions minus
[4:15:06] 2.32 any questions on Long long-term
[4:15:09] care
[4:15:13] moving to Community Support
[4:15:17] Services on the revenue side they
[4:15:20] received an increase to funding in 2024
[4:15:22] for assisted living of uh just over
[4:15:26] $510,000 on the expense side they're up
[4:15:30] $550,000 uh which is the new uh funding
[4:15:36] there are four full-time positions three
[4:15:38] part-time positions and 11 casual
[4:15:40] positions within um this division
[4:15:44] other
[4:15:46] highlights um mileage we've decreased it
[4:15:49] to 46300 just to better reflect our
[4:15:52] actual and then the assistant living
[4:15:55] funding and Service
[4:15:58] delivery there are a few proposed
[4:16:01] increases to community Ser Support
[4:16:03] Services the total is
[4:16:05] $191,000 which then more than doubles in
[4:16:09] 2026 previously committed includes
[4:16:12] Transit of 168 that has been
[4:16:15] budgeted um we've offset that by $80,000
[4:16:20] transfer from the rate stabilization
[4:16:23] reserve the new you can go to the next
[4:16:26] slide on the new to
[4:16:28] 2025 all relates to the older adult Str
[4:16:31] the implementation of the older adult
[4:16:33] strategy a supervisory level position is
[4:16:36] recommended which would also support the
[4:16:38] implementation of the enhanced
[4:16:40] Transportation plan 25% of this position
[4:16:43] would be allocated to support the older
[4:16:44] adult
[4:16:46] transportation and and 75% towards
[4:16:49] Community Support Services atmin the
[4:16:52] total cost for the year is
[4:16:54] 140,000 um including benefits training
[4:16:56] and new
[4:16:57] computer
[4:16:59] uh program related costs include a
[4:17:03] part-time driver as well as vehicle
[4:17:05] related costs the revenue collected from
[4:17:07] user fees result in a net cost of
[4:17:11] $38,000 uh which doesn't includ include
[4:17:13] the supervisor above next we've included
[4:17:16] $10,000 um to support a marketing plan
[4:17:18] for senior services and then lastly uh
[4:17:22] we included a transfer from the rate
[4:17:24] stabilization Reserve to offset the
[4:17:26] increase of this was there any questions
[4:17:28] on
[4:17:29] this councelor
[4:17:31] Garretts I think the so the marketing
[4:17:34] plan is probably directly related to I
[4:17:36] think the study showed that
[4:17:38] the the the older adults were not aware
[4:17:41] of the lot of the programming and that's
[4:17:43] why they weren't accessing them is that
[4:17:44] correct so this is to sort of address
[4:17:46] that through you Warden that is
[4:17:49] absolutely correct and even targeting
[4:17:52] with um you know the medical community
[4:17:54] to make sure that they're aware of the
[4:17:56] programs and can share that as well okay
[4:17:58] good
[4:18:09] thanks Rising Community Support Services
[4:18:12] the status qu is
[4:18:14] 14.21% and with the proposed additions
[4:18:16] the total increase becomes 83.1
[4:18:20] 5% moving on to the Malloy
[4:18:23] Center um Regular increases to rent are
[4:18:26] here other revenue is cleaning costs
[4:18:28] associated with early
[4:18:30] years um there are no direct Staffing
[4:18:34] costs with the Malloy
[4:18:38] Center highlights on the expenses uh
[4:18:41] facilities includes $20,000 increase to
[4:18:43] building maintenance cost to better
[4:18:45] reflect actual costs the addition of
[4:18:47] snow clearing cost of $25,000 which was
[4:18:50] previously included in the internal
[4:18:51] Services
[4:18:53] recovered uh previously the snow
[4:18:55] clearing contract was one amount for the
[4:18:57] entire complex the new contract allowed
[4:19:00] us to um break up the cost by building
[4:19:02] and therefore we were able to make those
[4:19:06] adjustments the Cal asset fund will be
[4:19:08] in a negative at the end of 2025
[4:19:13] uh despite the doubling of the capital
[4:19:17] Levy um the prior year carry forward of
[4:19:22] $54,000 um actually when I reviewed this
[4:19:25] Slide the prior your carry forward made
[4:19:27] no sense to me it should actually be
[4:19:30] $150,000 um as we differred both
[4:19:32] security at a $20,000 and washrooms at1
[4:19:35] 130 it looks like the opening balance
[4:19:37] that I have in there for 2024 is
[4:19:40] actually incorrect so once I change that
[4:19:42] the Never everything will be
[4:19:44] fixed I'll fix it in the final budget
[4:19:48] package um in terms of the capital work
[4:19:51] plan we have just over $500,000 planned
[4:19:53] for
[4:19:54] 2025 this includes updates to the fire
[4:19:57] alarm panel of
[4:19:58] $100,000 regular replacement of several
[4:20:01] HVAC uh systems at 212 Renovations of
[4:20:04] the public
[4:20:06] washrooms um 130,000 and then as needed
[4:20:09] window replacements for 45,000
[4:20:16] summarizing the metaloid center the
[4:20:18] status quo is 88.8 five which looks huge
[4:20:21] but of course that's the shift um from
[4:20:23] Capital if we hadn't done that shift the
[4:20:25] increase would have only been
[4:20:27] 1.74% are there any questions on meloid
[4:20:33] Center so again we have the
[4:20:36] status uh quo and then the proposed
[4:20:41] additions Steve you have a question yes
[4:20:44] thank you uh Madame Warden I was just
[4:20:47] wondering about the status of the
[4:20:48] property on Highway 89 and the Town Line
[4:20:52] Highway 89 and Town Line Between Amar
[4:20:55] Anthony Luther we talked about selling
[4:20:57] that or talked about maybe selling that
[4:21:00] or not I just wonder where we are or
[4:21:02] could we use explore that again and
[4:21:05] maybe use that money somewhere this
[4:21:08] budget or next
[4:21:20] sorry Steve I'm not sure anybody has an
[4:21:23] answer um no I don't either or
[4:21:30] counselor we're talking about the
[4:21:32] property at East Lutheran and um H 25 I
[4:21:37] think so so the dep Federation of
[4:21:39] Agriculture is planning to bring their
[4:21:41] proposal forward I believe to the next
[4:21:44] uh Economic Development Tourism
[4:21:48] Committee
[4:21:50] meeting all right thank you as long as
[4:21:52] we're it's on our mind and it's
[4:21:55] forgotten as far as they're concerned
[4:21:56] they've been putting
[4:21:58] that proposal together okay well my like
[4:22:02] would be uh tell it and throw the
[4:22:05] profits at something human uh like in
[4:22:09] the uh in the services we provide in in
[4:22:12] our are
[4:22:14] uh towards uh the poor and the destitute
[4:22:18] but thank you very much thank you Steve
[4:22:21] Raj did you have a
[4:22:22] point yeah um through you Warden white
[4:22:25] I'm not Warden white sorry okay he's
[4:22:27] over there so used to saying Warden
[4:22:30] white sorry I know so am I um through
[4:22:34] you Warden Herer um we actually have
[4:22:37] been in contact with um the de
[4:22:39] Federation of Agriculture with regards
[4:22:41] to the the pasture project they should
[4:22:43] be coming forward with a proposal and we
[4:22:45] have been in regular meetings with them
[4:22:48] um so I anticipate at the January 23rd
[4:22:51] uh committee meeting that we would have
[4:22:53] something to discuss then and they will
[4:22:55] also be coming forward as a delegation
[4:22:56] to that meeting thank you thank
[4:23:03] you okay just summarizing different Oaks
[4:23:06] uh 74% status quo and then
[4:23:10] 4.82% with proposed
[4:23:15] additions we're almost
[4:23:18] done moving on to Health
[4:23:22] Services uh this includes two areas
[4:23:24] Paramedic Services and Public Health
[4:23:26] Combined they have a status quo increase
[4:23:28] of
[4:23:29] 2.64% with proposed additions it's
[4:23:36] 4.02 uh the
[4:23:40] capital yeah this one if you look
[4:23:43] closely the Orange Line does go in the
[4:23:45] negative quite a
[4:23:47] bit um part of the problem with we're
[4:23:51] having doing this 20-year capital budget
[4:23:54] relates to the ambulances we have to
[4:23:56] order them one year and then we don't
[4:23:58] get them until one or two years later so
[4:24:00] it kind of just messes things up but I
[4:24:02] hopefully it will all work out in the
[4:24:07] end that's a great way to budget
[4:24:09] hopefully
[4:24:12] um okay moving the revenues so there's
[4:24:16] an increase in subsidies uh we received
[4:24:19] $116,400
[4:24:22] increase to the offload nursing program
[4:24:25] and then just regular increases to the
[4:24:29] paramedics and other Revenue relates to
[4:24:32] the community Paramedic program that is
[4:24:33] funded through the
[4:24:35] hospital on the expense side they do not
[4:24:37] have any salary and benefits um as those
[4:24:40] fall within service delivery as we
[4:24:43] contract that with the hospital the net
[4:24:45] increase in expenses is 3.15% or
[4:24:50] $348,000 highlights on the midin office
[4:24:53] 2024 uh we had included a service review
[4:24:56] which is offset by reserves we decided
[4:24:58] to take a different path in 2025 and we
[4:25:00] have that included in the
[4:25:02] new Service delivery includes 2.6%
[4:25:05] increase in the contract with Headwaters
[4:25:07] Healthcare as well as 100 the $116,000
[4:25:10] for offload nursing
[4:25:13] facilities include snow clearing
[4:25:15] increase of about 4,900 Grounds
[4:25:17] Maintenance is increase of 5700 and then
[4:25:21] other general maintenance increases of
[4:25:25] 11,000 moving on to the proposed
[4:25:28] addition uh The Paramedic Services
[4:25:32] master plan will provide a 10-year
[4:25:35] forecast of what service needs will be
[4:25:37] and how better to deliver those Services
[4:25:39] the current contract with Headwaters
[4:25:41] Healthcare expires this year prior to
[4:25:44] Renewal a consultant will be engaged to
[4:25:45] review the current model to ensure it
[4:25:47] continues to meet the needs of the
[4:25:48] community it is anticipated that the
[4:25:51] same consultant will be able to perform
[4:25:52] that the work
[4:25:55] $100,000 um is included and we're
[4:25:57] proposing to fund that from rate
[4:25:58] stabilization as it is a one-time
[4:26:02] thing the next is the additional shift
[4:26:05] at um in shelburn there was a report
[4:26:08] that went to Council in dis
[4:26:13] okay I went to November HHS that um
[4:26:16] talked about this um not going to read
[4:26:19] all the details because hopefully you've
[4:26:20] looked at that the proposed cost for
[4:26:23] 2024 is
[4:26:25] $201,000 which is offset 50% by subsidy
[4:26:29] and I just want to state that this is
[4:26:31] only for 3 months so when it comes to
[4:26:34] 2026 this will be 4 times the
[4:26:38] amount any questions
[4:26:45] okay moving to
[4:26:47] Capital there's a giant decrease in the
[4:26:49] capital asset Fund in the next couple
[4:26:51] years before it quickly goes back
[4:26:54] up um the Capital Carry forward a 1.2 is
[4:26:58] made up of $430,000 of ambulances which
[4:27:01] we've ordered and haven't received yet
[4:27:03] garage doors of 48,000 security of 70 uh
[4:27:08] in vehicle laptops of $90,000 in
[4:27:10] exterior wall work of
[4:27:12] $2,000 this adds up to $658,000
[4:27:17] the balance of the 1.2 is relates to
[4:27:21] Prior year subsidies that we anticipated
[4:27:23] that the province would claw back and
[4:27:26] it's come to fruition that they're not
[4:27:27] clawing back so we will be um adding it
[4:27:30] in 2024 to their
[4:27:36] revenue contributions um with the
[4:27:39] addition of the surface and shellburn we
[4:27:42] are able to apply development charges um
[4:27:44] towards an ambulance
[4:27:48] purchase the value of work for 2025 is
[4:27:51] just over $1.6
[4:27:54] million it includes design work for
[4:27:56] parking lot replacement of
[4:27:58] $5,000 security work for $1 120 which is
[4:28:02] planned for all three stations garage
[4:28:04] door Replacements of 75 two furnaces and
[4:28:07] a boiler uh
[4:28:08] $225,000 and work required to rectify
[4:28:11] ongoing flooding issues of
[4:28:15] 75,000 we also include a small amount
[4:28:17] for appliances which we just kind of
[4:28:19] keep carrying forward until the actual
[4:28:21] Appliance needs to be
[4:28:22] replaced um 2025 includes the
[4:28:26] replacement of two ambulances at
[4:28:28] $225,000 each and then the balance owing
[4:28:31] on three ambulances that have already
[4:28:32] been ordered and we hope to get in 2025
[4:28:35] of 430,000 and one Community paramedic
[4:28:38] vehicle of 90
[4:28:42] and then in relation to the new shift we
[4:28:45] are proposing the addition of an
[4:28:48] ambulance which we are offsetting with
[4:28:50] development charges and then the last is
[4:28:52] the command vehicle um that also was
[4:28:55] covered in the report that Gary did and
[4:28:57] adding that as a new vehicle for the
[4:29:00] chief and the deputy chief any questions
[4:29:03] on
[4:29:05] those councelor Taylor I'm just curious
[4:29:09] the um outside of the flooding issue
[4:29:12] isues that we talked about what is what
[4:29:15] is that building like um for long term
[4:29:19] and I don't see like we don't have a
[4:29:22] plan to replace it all the way up to
[4:29:23] 2044 right like are we're still we're
[4:29:26] still good there we're happy
[4:29:29] we're it feels like we're not doing
[4:29:32] anything with the building necessarily
[4:29:34] you wonder about
[4:29:37] that Gary would you like to take that
[4:29:40] one are you happy I'm happy through you
[4:29:44] Warden white or Warden Herer um that is
[4:29:48] part of the master plan that we've
[4:29:49] proposed is that it would speak to that
[4:29:52] whether we need more space um as you
[4:29:56] know we're growing we've already
[4:29:58] outgrown the current building in
[4:30:00] Orangeville and have had to find some
[4:30:02] space for our community paramedics
[4:30:03] moving forward um so in that Master Plan
[4:30:06] we're hoping that it would identify uh
[4:30:09] what our needs would be for over 10
[4:30:11] years for the town of Orangeville and
[4:30:13] whether that would include another
[4:30:14] building at another location or whether
[4:30:17] we'd be able to actually do an addition
[4:30:20] at the current
[4:30:23] space if I could none of that is in here
[4:30:26] right now right because we don't know
[4:30:28] what we don't know so so this could
[4:30:33] be magnified
[4:30:36] significantly and is it your you just
[4:30:38] said you're happy and it's great that
[4:30:40] you're happy I'm I'm happy you're happy
[4:30:42] but do you think that building is are we
[4:30:46] into something just out of
[4:30:49] curiosity in regards to the flooding
[4:30:52] you're speaking of specifically are we
[4:30:55] going to
[4:30:55] spend a few million dollars not a few
[4:30:58] million but a lot a lot of million of
[4:31:00] dollars of of a new building is that do
[4:31:02] you think do you anticipate that would
[4:31:04] be part of your
[4:31:05] plan um I would expect that there is
[4:31:09] something that is going to come with
[4:31:11] that because we don't have any room
[4:31:13] really to grow in that area and with the
[4:31:17] increase that we're getting in
[4:31:18] Orangeville and the entire County we
[4:31:21] would need at some point I would expect
[4:31:23] within 10 years that you would see
[4:31:25] probably another ambulance being needed
[4:31:27] for the town of Orangeville and we just
[4:31:29] really don't have any spot to put it
[4:31:31] right
[4:31:34] now may I ask a cautious question of you
[4:31:37] U CAO I I'm I'm I ask it cautiously I'm
[4:31:41] just curious ious was there any changes
[4:31:44] made to that land size there or is that
[4:31:49] status
[4:31:51] quo and yes or no would be fine if
[4:31:54] that's it not
[4:31:58] appropriate uh through you Warden uh
[4:32:02] nothing to date but there is potential
[4:32:15] okay
[4:32:16] [Music]
[4:32:18] um summarizing parotic Services the
[4:32:20] status quo operating is
[4:32:23] 2.92% when you add in capital it's 2.42
[4:32:26] and with proposed additions it's
[4:32:30] 4.25% moving on to Public
[4:32:36] Health uh debt payment we paid off the
[4:32:39] loan that we had in 2024 four it's the
[4:32:42] big increase in 2020 or decrease in
[4:32:45] 2025 Service delivery uh the annual
[4:32:48] increase on public health contract is
[4:32:51] 2.9% in 2020 in 2013 the county entered
[4:32:55] into a loan repayment agreement with
[4:32:57] public health whereby a credit was
[4:32:59] applied to our annual cost that offset
[4:33:01] the additional loan costs in essence the
[4:33:04] credit received equal the loan payments
[4:33:06] and thus there was no impact on the tax
[4:33:08] levy however in 2024 the budget the 2024
[4:33:12] budget the credit and the loan costs
[4:33:14] were not equal which has resulted in a
[4:33:16] higher than expected increase to Public
[4:33:18] Health transfers from reserves have been
[4:33:20] included to lessen the impact over the
[4:33:22] next few
[4:33:25] years and we also do apply a small
[4:33:28] amount of development charges to the
[4:33:31] county share of the public health
[4:33:32] debentures on their
[4:33:35] buildings summarizing Public Health the
[4:33:37] net increases 3.32%
[4:33:43] and that's it for Health
[4:33:50] Services I do sorry go ahead one more
[4:33:54] slide this is just a summary of where we
[4:33:57] are at where
[4:34:00] we are sitting when we
[4:34:04] started
[4:34:10] um and if you go go to the next slide
[4:34:13] this with all the things we talked about
[4:34:15] tonight we're sitting at
[4:34:23] 5.16% so at this point Amy we have a
[4:34:27] choice we
[4:34:28] can
[4:34:30] approve a budget tonight or we can
[4:34:33] return and talk about those areas that
[4:34:36] have been
[4:34:37] identified uh for another time is that
[4:34:41] our Choice
[4:34:45] here
[4:34:47] folks if I have some input into this
[4:34:50] choice I certainly would not want to
[4:34:52] finalize this tonight I think we do have
[4:34:54] some issues we have to explore further
[4:34:57] and
[4:34:58] uh it it's enough for one day and we
[4:35:02] need to have time to think about it
[4:35:04] councelor
[4:35:05] mlan uh yeah so I would I would agree
[4:35:08] with that the only thing I would say is
[4:35:10] 5% is a lot
[4:35:12] right um over the last year I think
[4:35:14] inflation in 2024 averaged around 2% I
[4:35:18] went back to our 2023 budget and there's
[4:35:21] a statement in there that says that
[4:35:23] historically our tax levies try to hold
[4:35:25] true to inflation and now I know that
[4:35:27] we've got a lot of big expenses coming
[4:35:29] up but now that we've had this wonderful
[4:35:32] presentation and I think we all have a
[4:35:33] better understanding of what's in the
[4:35:34] budget I would encourage members of
[4:35:36] council to think hard about how we can
[4:35:39] try to get that down um and maybe come
[4:35:42] to the next meeting with some
[4:35:44] ideas anyone
[4:35:48] else yeah if I could ask another
[4:35:51] question or sorry um so we we've
[4:35:54] referenced the right stabilization fund
[4:35:57] a number of times throughout this
[4:35:58] presentation taking reserves from there
[4:36:01] so I would certainly like to see what
[4:36:02] that total is and I would like to know
[4:36:04] what we expect to have from from our
[4:36:07] 2024 actuals to to budget to know
[4:36:10] whether we have a Sur cluster deficit or
[4:36:12] what situation we expect to be
[4:36:16] in did you Council thank you Wen
[4:36:22] um again trying to be positive I love
[4:36:24] Scott Scott's my one of my favorite
[4:36:28] people
[4:36:30] and um G given the economic climate I
[4:36:33] think we we owe it to ourselves to look
[4:36:35] at a couple of things uh the ones we
[4:36:38] mentioned sure but maybe also something
[4:36:40] like the welcome signs for for a couple
[4:36:41] of reasons I mean that's a million
[4:36:43] dollar over 5 years $200,000 a year but
[4:36:47] if you really look at it that is a
[4:36:49] program that was designed and
[4:36:51] implemented preco we're now way past Co
[4:36:55] so maybe maybe it's not time to continue
[4:36:58] rolling that out maybe it's time to
[4:37:00] relook at it and see if we want to take
[4:37:02] a different direction or if we want to
[4:37:03] continue with it or even push it back a
[4:37:06] year or modify it somehow but I mean
[4:37:08] that could certainly go a long way to
[4:37:10] lowering a bit of the budget as well so
[4:37:13] maybe that's just something we have a
[4:37:15] further discussion about uh later
[4:37:18] on lby
[4:37:20] Scott anyone and he didn't say but he
[4:37:25] didn't anyone
[4:37:28] else councilor post uh this is to Amy
[4:37:32] just briefly on the last slide you've
[4:37:33] said the things that we've discussed are
[4:37:35] now at 5.16 is that taking into
[4:37:37] consideration all of the items that we
[4:37:38] added to the
[4:37:39] list or no
[4:37:43] no so what that includes there's a
[4:37:45] $40,000 change for the h hazard waste
[4:37:48] contract there's $115,000 rent Revenue
[4:37:53] there's $100,000 for the bike lanes and
[4:37:55] then there's 135 for the um housing
[4:37:58] strategy Project
[4:38:00] Lead that's so it is that gets us to
[4:38:03] 5.16 based on the things that we added
[4:38:05] to the list tonight yeah and the other
[4:38:07] thing I have on the list sorry is the
[4:38:09] investor attraction attraction but I
[4:38:10] don't have it am
[4:38:23] councelor
[4:38:25] ni as important as the housing strategy
[4:38:29] program may
[4:38:30] be I I still wonder why and I know we
[4:38:33] took some out of the
[4:38:34] $500,000 for the um consultant or
[4:38:38] whatever it
[4:38:39] was is it necessary NE to put
[4:38:42] $500,000 into reserves for that program
[4:38:45] this year yes you're going to tell me
[4:38:47] we're just building up problems for the
[4:38:48] future but
[4:38:50] but okay I just put it out there if
[4:38:53] that's really
[4:39:02] necessary John
[4:39:05] tayor is there a math on what that um
[4:39:10] budget means to each household cuz I
[4:39:12] always think that's helpful too right
[4:39:14] like is this is that
[4:39:16] $32 or what whatever it is I don't know
[4:39:19] I don't know but what what is that as an
[4:39:20] increase i' be curious to understand
[4:39:22] what that is and wouldn't be flippant
[4:39:24] with residents money but it it is
[4:39:27] helpful to
[4:39:28] understand you have that uh through you
[4:39:32] Warden the increase per ,000 $100,000 of
[4:39:37] assessment is $20.63
[4:39:48] yeah okay Council kman first um nearing
[4:39:53] the the fifth uh fifth hour that we've
[4:39:56] been uh doing this I don't know that
[4:39:58] we're doing our best thinking at this
[4:39:59] point in the in the course of the
[4:40:01] evening i' I'd uh support going away uh
[4:40:05] considering what we what we've done um
[4:40:09] mindful that if we're adding anything to
[4:40:11] the budget it should be within the the
[4:40:14] amount uh that is currently recommended
[4:40:16] and uh looking at areas where we can
[4:40:18] economized by uh deferring or taking
[4:40:21] things out but I don't think we're going
[4:40:23] to get to a decision
[4:40:27] tonight just on the so that was $20 per
[4:40:30] 100,000 of impac assessed value right
[4:40:33] and since impac hasn't we're going on
[4:40:35] nine years to the to the point like the
[4:40:39] in 2016
[4:40:42] uh I don't know how many houses were a
[4:40:44] million dollars for example but it's
[4:40:46] it's yeah it's it's a big difference
[4:40:48] from what your your house is worth now
[4:40:51] so um that just sort of you know I guess
[4:40:54] sort of
[4:40:56] uh lessens the the the the impact
[4:40:59] because you're you're working on 2016
[4:41:01] assess values so
[4:41:05] thanks um through you Warden just to um
[4:41:09] James point about um
[4:41:12] being around
[4:41:14] CPI if you look at the status quo budget
[4:41:16] it's 3.2% which is close to CPI anything
[4:41:19] else is new and it's always going to be
[4:41:21] over
[4:41:22] CPI thank
[4:41:25] you councelor Mills thank you won I I
[4:41:28] agree with several of the other comments
[4:41:29] that you know a final decision on this
[4:41:32] is probably best reserved for another
[4:41:34] night but um would the intention be to
[4:41:36] call a special meeting like I I I don't
[4:41:39] think we should probably wait until our
[4:41:41] next regularly scheduled council meeting
[4:41:43] to get this wrapped up we had the 30th
[4:41:46] didn't we was is it already scheduled
[4:41:47] for the 30th okay yeah
[4:41:49] perfect yeah so there is a special
[4:41:51] meeting already scheduled for January
[4:41:56] 30th so I think have to go well and the
[4:42:02] thing is you've seen the big uh
[4:42:05] presentation what we should be talking
[4:42:07] about at that point are some of the
[4:42:10] economies and
[4:42:11] some of the specifics as opposed to the
[4:42:13] whole thing
[4:42:15] right so is that a 7:00 meeting or is
[4:42:19] that a
[4:42:21] three it's a seven it's a six okay it's
[4:42:25] hard to keep
[4:42:29] track okay um so thank you Amy um it
[4:42:34] appears that we're not ready to make any
[4:42:36] kind of a motion at this point did
[4:42:38] somebody else
[4:42:54] no um well I wasn't going to send you
[4:42:57] home home it was just we have no uh
[4:42:59] motion on the budget tonight but I do
[4:43:02] want if you have some ideas or questions
[4:43:05] for staff please address them to Amy
[4:43:08] ahead of the meeting so that she can do
[4:43:11] some thinking uh on on how this might or
[4:43:14] she'll direct it to whoever the question
[4:43:16] has to go to councelor little just as a
[4:43:20] summary for us can we get a synopsis a
[4:43:23] written synopsis of what those um list
[4:43:25] was that we created today just so that
[4:43:28] you know we're clear all clear on the
[4:43:30] same page thanks okay thank
[4:43:34] you all right uh let's keep moving then
[4:43:38] um number 10 there's no strategic Plan
[4:43:40] update this month we have some
[4:43:43] correspondents um correspondents receiv
[4:43:45] received from the municipality of mccoa
[4:43:47] to request duffing contribute to the
[4:43:49] funding the Simco duffrin
[4:43:53] Moka Crime Stoppers what are councilor's
[4:44:01] wishes councelor post thank you won
[4:44:04] Herer um we actually just in Orangeville
[4:44:07] did the proclamation of crimes Stoppers
[4:44:09] month yesterday or the day before um um
[4:44:11] and I was speaking to the folks who run
[4:44:14] our division of crimes Stoppers and they
[4:44:15] were talking to me about the financial
[4:44:17] issues that they're having um what I
[4:44:19] requested and I sent them the
[4:44:20] information today is I requested that
[4:44:22] they come and delegate to County Council
[4:44:24] to talk to all of us about what their
[4:44:26] needs are how it's being funded
[4:44:28] currently where their gaps are and what
[4:44:30] the future looks like so I did provide
[4:44:32] them with our Clerk's emails and ask
[4:44:34] them to reach out to her to ask to
[4:44:36] delegate at a future meeting perfect
[4:44:38] good okay thank you
[4:44:43] they want the money for 2025 so unless
[4:44:46] we get this
[4:44:47] delegation and either say yes or no to
[4:44:49] some money how do we get it in the 2025
[4:44:54] budget
[4:44:56] Lisa um good question um I mean we could
[4:45:00] set aside money at the budget time if
[4:45:02] that's the will of of council the the
[4:45:05] correspondence that we got was from one
[4:45:07] municipality that participates in it not
[4:45:09] from Crim Stoppers directly so I think
[4:45:11] we'd be better served to hear directly
[4:45:13] from crimes Stoppers of their need
[4:45:14] rather than just from one municipality
[4:45:16] um the Simco deff and Moka Crime
[4:45:18] Stoppers do get funding from all three
[4:45:21] different municipalities and Moka has
[4:45:24] has stated to them that they were going
[4:45:26] to encourage us to also Pony up and give
[4:45:28] some money but I I think it I think it
[4:45:30] would be premature of us to make a
[4:45:32] decision on what that dollar amount may
[4:45:34] look like what they did tell me from
[4:45:35] crimes Stoppers this week was um they
[4:45:38] have put a a shut their door date of
[4:45:40] August August 1st on the table um
[4:45:43] because they have to have a plan they
[4:45:44] have they don't want to just last second
[4:45:46] and say I don't have any money we're
[4:45:47] going to have to close the door so they
[4:45:48] have um said that they're in danger
[4:45:51] right now based on the lack of funding
[4:45:52] that they do have so it's up to council
[4:45:55] if they want to allocate some money now
[4:45:57] but I have asked them to come to to
[4:45:59] County Council to speak to us I think
[4:46:02] Council Garretts or Council keman I was
[4:46:05] going to say wouldn't it be a community
[4:46:07] Grant like many other community grants I
[4:46:09] mean we have the we just increase that
[4:46:11] budget tonight uh in theory
[4:46:15] anyway I did also let them know about
[4:46:17] the community grants program both at the
[4:46:19] county of Defan and at the town of
[4:46:20] Orangeville and advise them to keep an
[4:46:22] eye on both the websites for the
[4:46:23] advertisement of when those applications
[4:46:25] will open but in the mean time I thought
[4:46:27] it would be good for them to also come
[4:46:28] to council and just explain what their
[4:46:29] situation is as well as to explain to
[4:46:33] councel what the work that they do in
[4:46:35] our municipality looks like and what
[4:46:36] their results have been so I think
[4:46:38] regardless of the funding piece I think
[4:46:39] it's important that they come
[4:46:43] okay thank you I think we'll just uh
[4:46:45] wait then and the clerk will uh get us
[4:46:48] get them on the agenda um correspondence
[4:46:51] has been received from Duffer M
[4:46:53] municipalities regarding the
[4:46:54] multi-jurisdictional fire protection and
[4:46:57] prevention plan could I please have a
[4:46:59] mover and a seconder to receive the
[4:47:02] correspondence for information purposes
[4:47:06] moved by James seconded by Wade all
[4:47:09] those in favor
[4:47:13] carried okay Township of amaranth the
[4:47:16] correspondence has been received from
[4:47:18] the township of amanth to support the
[4:47:20] township of memmer's resolution to
[4:47:22] create a North duffan fire service area
[4:47:25] could I have a mover and a seconder to
[4:47:27] receive the correspondence for
[4:47:29] information
[4:47:30] purposes moved by guard house second and
[4:47:33] by Garretts all those in
[4:47:36] favor carried notices of motion
[4:47:40] councelor Garrett has submitted a notice
[4:47:41] of motion it has been slightly amended
[4:47:44] from the version published in the agenda
[4:47:47] and it will be placed on the February
[4:47:49] Council agenda for discussion it reads
[4:47:53] as follows um whereas the county of
[4:47:56] duffo received Ascent on May 31st
[4:47:59] 1994 and whereas it would represent good
[4:48:02] governance for the county of duffan
[4:48:03] council to review the 30-year-old act to
[4:48:06] ensure that it meets the current
[4:48:08] conditions and priorities of the county
[4:48:10] of duffan therefore be it resolved that
[4:48:12] County Council discuss the county of
[4:48:14] duffen act at the March County council
[4:48:16] meeting to determine which items are no
[4:48:18] longer revent or require
[4:48:22] updating so that's the notice of motion
[4:48:26] coming uh is there a closed session I
[4:48:28] don't think so we've had enough okay
[4:48:32] bylaws number 15 so we have a
[4:48:34] recommendation that bylaw
[4:48:37] 20251 through 205
[4:48:42] 20053 inclusive be read a first second
[4:48:44] and third time and
[4:48:46] enacted need a mover and a second uh
[4:48:49] moved by Nicks and seconded by kelman
[4:48:52] all those in
[4:48:54] favor
[4:48:56] carried um and at the special uh council
[4:48:59] meeting on August 22nd Council received
[4:49:02] a report regarding the model franchise
[4:49:04] agreement with Enbridge Gas at that
[4:49:06] meeting Council had a first and second
[4:49:08] reading of bylaw 20 2432 to authorize
[4:49:12] execution of the agreement since then
[4:49:15] the Ontario energy board has approved
[4:49:17] the agreement between duffen County and
[4:49:20] Enbridge so we may now have a third and
[4:49:23] final reading of the bylaw may I have a
[4:49:26] motion for bylaw 2024 32 to be read a
[4:49:30] third time and enacted moved by post
[4:49:33] seconded by Garretts all those in
[4:49:36] favor
[4:49:39] carried okay
[4:49:42] do any members of council have any other
[4:49:46] business councilor
[4:49:48] white uh thanks Warden just wondering if
[4:49:51] we can get an update on what delegations
[4:49:53] we have and whatnot and what we're
[4:49:55] talking about at Roma if we have any
[4:49:59] through through you Warden uh thanks for
[4:50:02] the question uh councelor White yes we
[4:50:04] got two U one through Ministry of the
[4:50:06] attorney general which is on
[4:50:09] Tuesday at at 10:45
[4:50:12] 10:45 and another one with the Ministry
[4:50:15] of Transportation which is on Monday and
[4:50:18] I will get back to you with the time so
[4:50:19] actually before counselors who are going
[4:50:21] to Roma if you before you leave if you
[4:50:23] could maybe just touch base with me and
[4:50:25] figure out who's going to which
[4:50:26] delegation and then we can firm up all
[4:50:28] those details uh and just further to to
[4:50:31] answer your question uh the ministry
[4:50:33] attorney general delegation is on um the
[4:50:38] stagnation of uh fees related to Traffic
[4:50:41] infractions or under the highway traffic
[4:50:43] act and uh the non-collection of a
[4:50:47] number of Poa fines over the last many
[4:50:50] years did you want to add anything and
[4:50:52] I'm going to add something about uh
[4:50:54] illegal land
[4:50:57] use sorry I'm going to add something
[4:50:59] about illegal land use and our
[4:51:02] ineffective process of going to POA
[4:51:05] Court getting a crummy fine and then
[4:51:08] having to go to Superior Court to get
[4:51:10] compliance so I'm going to I'm going to
[4:51:13] add that in
[4:51:15] there and the Ministry of Transportation
[4:51:18] delegation is on uh requesting an update
[4:51:21] for the uh study being done on Highway
[4:51:24] 10 and just general traffic road safety
[4:51:27] issues with respect to U both provincial
[4:51:29] highways and and road safety generally
[4:51:31] especially on Rural roads uh referencing
[4:51:34] the work that was done by uh the the um
[4:51:37] good roads Association
[4:51:41] uh thanks for that uh mangon Township
[4:51:43] has a delegation with MTO as well on
[4:51:45] road safety Highway 10 uh Ken Road 17
[4:51:48] and some other things so perhaps we
[4:51:51] could uh work together just to make sure
[4:51:53] we're not doing too much duplication on
[4:51:55] those
[4:51:59] thanks councelor Mills I think you've
[4:52:01] got a delegation as well yes uh Warden
[4:52:04] as I mentioned you on on Monday um we've
[4:52:07] received a delegation with MTO as well
[4:52:09] it's on Monday I I think at 2 or 2:30 um
[4:52:12] I'm hoping the warden if her schedule
[4:52:15] permits U amongst the multitude of other
[4:52:18] delegations you'll have that that week
[4:52:20] that you'll be able to join us my time
[4:52:23] is your
[4:52:25] time did you want to hear everybody we
[4:52:28] have four you've got so we've got uh
[4:52:30] attorney general for councelor because
[4:52:33] that's the speed enforcement in rural
[4:52:35] areas I think is what we're discussing
[4:52:37] there Municipal Affairs and Housing uh
[4:52:40] uh can't even remember Ministry of
[4:52:43] infrastructure it's to advocate for
[4:52:46] different uh designs and standards for
[4:52:49] structures on low volume roads and
[4:52:52] what's our what's our other one
[4:52:56] uh no that's an
[4:52:58] infrastructure oh Minister of Finance
[4:53:01] who uh it's the Parliamentary assistant
[4:53:03] to talk about uh um to put it bluntly uh
[4:53:09] uh treaty as well as they treat the city
[4:53:11] of Toronto and uh and perhaps allowing
[4:53:15] for more uh uh tools to collect taxes so
[4:53:20] thanks thank
[4:53:22] you anybody else anything councilor po
[4:53:26] if you're wanting delegations the town
[4:53:28] of Orangeville just has one delegation
[4:53:29] it's with the Ministry of Finance to
[4:53:31] talk about the Ontario Municipal
[4:53:32] partnership fund which we are the only
[4:53:34] municipality in deff County who does not
[4:53:36] receive so we're we're reaching out to
[4:53:38] them about that the county does they
[4:53:40] don't
[4:53:41] that's right the county as a whole
[4:53:42] doesn't either and I I'll send you some
[4:53:44] data that I've collected about it but
[4:53:45] thank you okay thank
[4:53:48] you um all right we are now going to
[4:53:52] move into um the confirmatory bylaw may
[4:53:56] have a motion for the confirming bylaw
[4:53:59] 20254 to be ra read a first second and
[4:54:02] third time moved by Mill seconded by
[4:54:06] Hall all those in
[4:54:08] favor carried
[4:54:11] the next committee meetings will be held
[4:54:13] Thursday January 3rd in the duff
[4:54:20] room Thursday oh January
[4:54:23] 23rd I think you said the third oh did I
[4:54:26] sorry 23rd uh infrastructure and
[4:54:29] environmental services at 9 General
[4:54:31] government services 11 Community
[4:54:34] Development tourism one and Health and
[4:54:37] Human Services
[4:54:38] three um then the next meeting will be
[4:54:42] that January 30th just get that in your
[4:54:45] calendar so you don't forget our next
[4:54:47] council meeting will be February
[4:54:50] 13th at um same time same
[4:54:55] place okay we have a motion to
[4:55:00] adjourn oh guy okay we're carrying on a
[4:55:04] well I don't know we have
[4:55:08] new I'm good with you doing it
[4:55:10] move by
[4:55:12] Guy second by
[4:55:16] Garrett there you go thanks everyone
[4:55:18] that was a long haul but uh appreciate
[4:55:22] your
[4:55:24] attention
[4:55:28] any that's all right