1 00:00:03,274 --> 00:00:05,294 [music] 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,040 » Hey East Ham, welcome back to Turn It Up East Ham, the town's official podcast. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,880 My name is Kayla Arcaro and I am the town's communication coordinator. Today 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,200 I'm joined by Paul Lag, our community development director. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,640 In this episode, we're going to discuss the upcoming zoning amendments and what 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,960 they will look like at our May town meeting. We know zoning can feel 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,720 complicated, but it affects all of us in a community as a whole. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:34,840 So Paul, let's get started and kind of talk about what these amendments mean 9 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:39,520 for our community. Okay, well thanks for having me. A pleasure to be here, Kayla. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Yeah. Uh this year's town meeting has a slate of different zoning amendments and 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:50,440 they cover a range of topics from uh affordable housing to prohibited 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:55,160 uses, uh sign code, and some zoning administration items. So it's a wide 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,720 variety of things that um are important topics for this year's 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,600 town meeting. Awesome. And kind of just to back up a little bit, can we talk 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:07,200 about what exactly zoning is and why it's important for our community? 16 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:11,280 Sure. So zoning is essentially the practice of 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:15,520 dividing the town into different zones or districts. And the reason we do this 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,040 is to have land uses that are compatible and 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,720 appropriate for the different parts of town. So 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,480 the goal is to have residential zones and where they are appropriate as 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,720 opposed to commercial and industrial zones and so we don't necessarily end up 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:36,120 with an industrial factory located right next to a residential area. 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:40,200 Um compatibility of uses creates a predictable 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:44,880 development pattern and we want to make sure that really the zoning works for 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,520 the and you know, the enjoyment of the residents so that we have uh quality of 26 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:51,240 life and the character of the community is 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,360 uh is maintained. Okay. And so I know you don't do this by 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,640 yourself. Um the zoning task force plays a big part in this and I know you've 29 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,960 been really hard at work with them over the last couple years. Can you kind of 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:06,760 explain how they fit into all of this? Sure. 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:11,680 So, the Zoning Task Force is a an advisory group that was appointed 32 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:16,400 about 6 years ago by the Select Board. It's comprised of representatives from 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:20,640 the Planning Board, the Zoning Board, the Affordable Housing Trust, and our 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,240 newest member is a representative from the Climate Action Group, and we have 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,320 some at-large members. So, they're advisory to the Select Board, and 36 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:32,400 they're really tasked with examining the zoning bylaws to identify areas that 37 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:36,959 need improvement and make recommendations that ultimately go to 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:41,600 the Select Board and to Town Meeting. The approach that and and myself and my 39 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:45,800 staff work closely with the task force. The approach that we've taken over last 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:49,440 few years is to um look at the other guiding documents. 41 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,160 So, we have the zoning bylaw, but we look at the other guiding documents of 42 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:56,920 the town, our strategic plan, our housing plan, our open space plan, a lot 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:02,080 of various plans, and they all have recommendations and action items in each 44 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,959 one. So, what we try to do is look at the zoning bylaw and identify 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,120 areas where the zoning bylaw is not in alignment with 46 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,880 the action items and the goals of the community, and then we make 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:16,880 recommendations for changes to allow those other priorities to happen so that 48 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,680 the zoning will complement and align with those other priorities. So, that's 49 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,920 the basic approach that the task force takes, and that's where the 50 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:28,519 recommendations really come from. Okay, so you would say that the um these 51 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,920 changes happen yearly, and that the driving factors would be those other 52 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:36,600 reports that the town follows? Yeah, so these the strategic plan 53 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,800 particularly, but again all we have a lot of different plans and a lot of hard 54 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,080 work and effort that goes into all those plans. Our probably our most recent 55 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:47,480 plan, the Climate Action Plan, is an example of that, and so 56 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:52,959 we want to make sure that the zoning which really controls the land use and 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:57,400 the development patterns are able to not be not get in the way of 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,440 the goals of the other town of the other um 59 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:05,360 development plans in town. Okay. So, I know at the beginning um you mentioned 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,440 that inclusionary zoning is going to be a change on this year's warrant. 61 00:04:07,959 --> 00:04:14,840 Um so we'll start with the housing and kind 62 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:18,440 of the topic that's on everyone's mind. Inclusionary zoning is all about 63 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,400 creating affordable and workforce housing in town, but it comes with its 64 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,840 own challenges. So, can you explain the purpose of 65 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:32,000 inclusionary zoning bylaw and why the town has a 10% 66 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:37,800 subsidized housing inventory? Sure. So, inclusionary zoning is a regulatory 67 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:42,720 tool that tries to use the development of market rate housing as a mechanism to 68 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:46,480 create affordable and workforce housing. And it's a it's a common tool, a lot of 69 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:51,480 towns have it, and there's different ways it can be um the the bylaw can be 70 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:55,919 created and implemented in Eastham. What it means is that 71 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:00,320 when someone proposes to develop five or more housing units and then when we're 72 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:04,000 talking about market rate units, the inclusionary zoning bylaw basically 73 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,640 requires that the developer create a certain percentage 74 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:11,520 of those units that are either affordable or 75 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:16,919 workforce. Um 76 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:20,800 where the 20 where the the 10% goal comes into effect is 77 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,400 the state of Massachusetts has a broad goal that 78 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,760 they would like to see every community in the Commonwealth achieve at least 10% 79 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,240 of their year-round housing stock to be affordable. 80 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:38,919 Um the mechanism for tracking that is um 81 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:43,680 what's called the subsidized housing inventory or the SHI list. 82 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:47,240 And that's that's what the state that's the official tally that the state has to 83 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:53,080 say how for each community what what is your percentage of affordable housing. 84 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Our inclusionary bylaw is set up to basically create SHI units. So, we get 85 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,880 credit towards that 10%. But, um 86 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,120 I guess it's important to note that, you know, that's an important goal, but it's 87 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,680 not the only goal that Eastham has to, you 88 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:14,240 know, deal with our housing issues. So, we want to try to have um 89 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,640 units that are affordable and attainable and also have workforce units. And we 90 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:22,520 really need housing at every affordability level and really for every 91 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,360 um e- every sector. Um 92 00:06:24,489 --> 00:06:29,080 » [snorts] >> So, as I said, the inclusionary zoning 93 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,120 bylaw is really set up to have these units that get created counted on the 94 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,120 SHI. Um 95 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:40,960 that becomes a bit of a hurdle for small-scale projects and 96 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,520 um local developers. Um because 97 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,360 the requirements to get counted on the state's list can be onerous and to be 98 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,919 honest, can be quite expensive. It involves running 99 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,960 um housing lotteries and doing a lot of um 100 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:59,520 due diligence work, which the danger is that um 101 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,720 smaller-scale developers who aren't really 102 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:07,280 set up to handle these these expenses and these costs, 103 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:11,800 they may decide not to do their project or they may decide to drop the number of 104 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:16,840 units and kind of fall below that inclusionary zoning bylaw trigger. 105 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,919 And uh we want to avoid that because either way, Eastham, the community loses 106 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:25,080 out on potential how- affordable and workforce units. So, 107 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,360 » Okay. So, what exactly are the proposed changes in this amendment for this year? 108 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Right. So, um as I said, the the current bylaw is set 109 00:07:30,919 --> 00:07:35,280 up to make every unit that we create through 110 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,120 this bylaw count on the SHI. Again, that's an important goal, but it's not 111 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:43,720 our only goal. So, the main um change that we're proposing is to 112 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:49,080 basically create um some flexibility for the developers so 113 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:54,800 that not every unit that gets created necessarily has to count on the state's 114 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:59,120 SHI. We want to create local action units that have the 115 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:03,600 necessary protection so that they remain affordable and workforce but don't 116 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:09,320 necessarily require the developer to go through all of the um 117 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:13,680 mechanisms that required by the state in order to get on the SHI. And what that 118 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:17,120 really means is that um there's as I said develop some 119 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,560 flexibility for developers. And when I say developers, what we really have seen 120 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,320 um lately and what we anticipate in the 121 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:27,080 future, it's not really professional housing developers. It's really local 122 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,200 businesses who are trying to reinvest in their 123 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,599 commercial properties um and add some housing, add some 124 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,360 apartments and really for their workforce and for our local workforce. 125 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:42,680 So we want to make sure this bylaw works for that 126 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:46,200 um situation. And so it's really trying to have some 127 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:49,080 flexibility. At the same time um 128 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,560 we are making some adjustments to make sure that while we're having the 129 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,360 flexibility for the developers, we want to make sure that we have 130 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,080 proper controls on the town side. And all of this really runs through the 131 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,720 planning board. They're the they're the um entity that makes these 132 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,400 um approvals. So we want to make sure the planning board has the proper 133 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,600 regulatory tools to make sure that what's best and what's in the best 134 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:13,120 interest for the town um is also handled when we have these types of 135 00:09:10,839 --> 00:09:16,280 developments. Okay. So from like a broader perspective, why do you think 136 00:09:14,839 --> 00:09:19,440 this is important for our community? Would you say the flexibility and the 137 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,520 affordability or kind of just as a whole um 138 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:28,440 being able to add to a thriving year-round community? 139 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Well, I'd say given the housing crisis that we have, you 140 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:36,240 know, anything we do on housing is vitally important and it touches 141 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:40,480 everybody's life because it's where we live, it's our workforce, it's our 142 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,200 caretakers, it's our whole community. So, 143 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,120 um I think broadly it's just in it's 144 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:50,080 important to the whole community. I think um 145 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,080 but the flexibility piece I think is probably the single 146 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,240 biggest part of from my view of what we're trying to do to make sure that we 147 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,800 don't lose the opportunity for again, the local It's not It's not 148 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,560 professional housing developers that this amendment's geared towards, it's 149 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:07,080 our local businesses who aren't in necessarily in the housing game, but 150 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,280 they're trying to carve out some units to serve the local 151 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,360 need. So, um and it goes back to balancing 152 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:19,200 the goals of the town, which is to yes, make progress on the state's SHI towards 153 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:22,560 that 10%, but we need affordable units, we need workforce units at all 154 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:26,560 affordability levels. So, this is really trying to balance 155 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,200 the regulatory tools to account for um all the needs of the community. Okay, 156 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,760 that makes sense, and it sounds like a great change to what we currently 157 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,320 already have. Um 158 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:39,320 I will mention that the inclusionary inclusionary zoning bylaw is quite 159 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:43,720 intense and complicated. Um there's a lot more information than just what Paul 160 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,480 covered, so please view our website, talk with Paul if you have questions to 161 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,720 fully understand um what's being presented at town meeting. 162 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,000 So, to kind of wrap that up and move on, um another 163 00:10:53,697 --> 00:10:58,240 » [clears throat] >> proposed change that we have coming up 164 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:02,200 at town meeting is a sign code, and we all are obviously familiar with signs 165 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:06,080 and see them all over um our community every day. So, can you 166 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:10,520 kind of touch on what is coming with that change? 167 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:17,040 Sure. So, um part of it is really um 168 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:21,280 clarifying some language to um to tighten up some ambiguity in in the 169 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:27,720 bylaw. Um And really to make it more consistent. 170 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Um I guess the main The main takeaways are 171 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,120 there are um parts of the proposal that would 172 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:39,600 prohibit certain types of um signs, um particularly the um feather or the 173 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:45,560 flag signs, which are kind of the ones you see out on the roadway a lot um 174 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:49,320 on the monopole. And um our bylaw sign code really doesn't address those right 175 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:54,320 now, so there's a lot of ambiguity about whether they're allowed or not. Um 176 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:59,960 again, the task force does a lot of background work, a lot of research. We 177 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:03,720 try to get input. Um and we did have um a feedback session and work session with 178 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:08,080 zoning board, planning board, select board. And this the feedback we got was 179 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,720 that um the most appropriate thing to do would be just to prohibit those types of 180 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:16,320 signs. And primarily, it's a safety issue. Um Route 6 181 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:21,320 is a dangerous roadway. You know, we're working to make improvements on that, 182 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:24,640 but we already prohibit um um 183 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,840 electronic billboard signs and signs with scrolling messaging and so forth. 184 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,440 And you know, those are distracting those are distractions. And this is akin 185 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:35,120 to that. So, it's really you know, rooted in trying to make sure we don't 186 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,200 have roadside distractions on an already built busy 187 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:41,800 roadway. Um I guess the other thing I'll mention 188 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:45,560 on that is the other 189 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:49,160 piece of the sign code is to um limit the amount of time that um short-term 190 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,480 rental signs can be displayed on residential properties. 191 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Again, this is kind of a new phenomenon where you know, with the rise of of 192 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,520 these short-term rentals, um these types of signs have been 193 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:05,680 getting installed on properties and in neighborhoods. And it really what the um 194 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,920 amendment would do is basically require that 195 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:12,120 those types of signs could only be displayed between May and October. 196 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,080 And going back to my original point, trying to make it um 197 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:20,280 clarify, make it consistent with other parts of the sign code. So, we already 198 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:24,400 have regulations on the traditional real estate signs, the for sale signs, the 199 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,920 sold signs. And they those can only be displayed for certain amounts of time. 200 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,320 So, we're trying to make it consistent and fair 201 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,560 um with the real estate signs. So, I think 202 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,160 those are kind of the two big takeaways on the sign code. Okay. Those make 203 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:42,520 sense. Um can you kind of touch on if you think that this will affect local 204 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:45,040 businesses or short-term rental owners? 205 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:52,080 I think um again, it's it's an issue of trying to 206 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,320 make sure that the code is fair and consistent. Um 207 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,400 every time you introduce a piece of 208 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,440 regulation, there's going to be, you know, pros and cons. We try to make 209 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:06,640 um the recommendations that seem um 210 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:10,080 in best alignment with the purpose of the zoning bylaw and the goals of the 211 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,600 community and um what we're trying to preserve as far as 212 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,000 community character. So, would you say that there's 213 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:22,080 additional benefits than just safety to our community? Is it 214 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:25,880 to make it more uniform or kind of just go back to everything being consistent? 215 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Yeah. Um I think guys goes back to the first 216 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:34,200 question of what is what is zoning and 217 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:38,720 it's really um it's a method to try to 218 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,000 um make sure that the general welfare of the community is 219 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,400 is guarded and upheld and that we, you know, have rules and regulations that 220 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:50,520 give the greatest benefit to the greatest amount of people and as I said, 221 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:55,080 there's going to be pros and cons and different viewpoints. 222 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:59,640 So, what we try to look at what is the overall intent and purpose of 223 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,160 the community. What's the character of the community? What are the What are the 224 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,680 um you know, the goals of the community? And then we try to align those 225 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:10,440 regulations as best we can to serve that purpose. 226 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Okay. So, I think we wrapped up the sign code. Um 227 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:18,160 obviously, there's still signs allowed in town and those will still be approved 228 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:22,080 by the building department for use. Yes, so sign permits are issued by the 229 00:15:19,839 --> 00:15:27,800 building department. I guess it I should um mention that you know there are still 230 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:31,360 a lot of opportunities for ample signage in the sign code. So, businesses are 231 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:35,600 allowed to have their permanent signs. You can still have sandwich board signs. 232 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,520 You can have open flags. You can have a variety of different signs. So, again, 233 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,440 we're you try to be sensitive to the needs of the business community. It's 234 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,680 obviously very important. So, it's as I mentioned, it's trying to balance what's 235 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,880 in the best interest of the overall community without putting too much 236 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,480 detrimental impact on the businesses. But, it's always a balancing act. Yeah. 237 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:56,360 » [clears throat] >> Okay. So, we're going to move on to our 238 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,600 next zoning change, and that is prohibited uses. 239 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,040 So, I think this is going to be a big one for discussion at town meeting. So, 240 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:08,960 if you could kind of just cover the overview of what these prohibited 241 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:11,800 uses will be in the article. Sure. So, 242 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,200 there's a few different components to this. Um 243 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,480 I guess the first one I'll start with is the 244 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:24,880 proposed amendment in prohibited uses. The first one would be to prohibit 245 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:27,960 um the use of formula businesses or what what you would think of as chain store 246 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:33,880 businesses. And also the drive-thru facilities. 247 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Those would be prohibited in district E, which is the commercial district in and 248 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,640 around town hall, the windmill green, and so forth. 249 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Um last year we did some zoning amendment 250 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:48,560 changes that basically prohibited those uses in the northeast town corridor 251 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,440 special district, which is the area in and around Bracket Road. That's our 252 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:55,960 primary commercial district. This year we're proposing basically the 253 00:16:54,160 --> 00:17:00,680 same prohibition on district E. And it's really for 254 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,360 again, consistency and clarity in the bylaw. 255 00:17:01,839 --> 00:17:06,120 Um and to 256 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:10,439 you know, really set the expectation of what's in the best interest of the town, 257 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:13,480 which as the work that's gone into a lot of the zoning work in the past year few 258 00:17:11,959 --> 00:17:17,240 years in the strategic plan has really focused on making sure we 259 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:23,079 um protect the character of the town as it is now and keep Eastham unique and 260 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:26,720 special as it is and and and really on the formula business it's to try to, you 261 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:33,040 know, protect our local businesses and our local small scale um, commercial 262 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:37,920 aspects from outside influences which would be maybe seen as inappropriate or 263 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:41,960 counter to what we're trying to preserve here in Eastham. 264 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:45,760 In the drive-thru facilities uh, again, counter to what we're trying to do on 265 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Route 6 which is already busy roadway, dangerous um, drive-thru facilities by 266 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,120 their nature are vehicle oriented and so really 267 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:58,600 everything we're trying to do with zoning and land use is to lessen the 268 00:17:56,120 --> 00:18:02,520 impact and make it safer on Route 6. So, again, um, 269 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,680 recommending that those be prohibited in the 270 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,040 our commercial districts. Okay. So, 271 00:18:07,312 --> 00:18:11,480 » [clears throat] >> also within the that same article, 272 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:18,440 there's going to be a few more topics. There's, um, storage containers and, um, 273 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:21,920 some changes to the RV and camper bylaw. Right. 274 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,840 If you want to talk on that. >> sticking, yeah, so sticking with the 275 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:30,920 prohibited uses, um, there's a proposal that would deal with 276 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:37,120 fences and this gets a little uh, little wordy, so I'll try to, um, 277 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:42,720 break it down as as best I can. So, what the proposal is would be 278 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:46,840 to prohibit the use of non-natural materials 279 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:53,840 on solid panel fences along street facing property lines. So, 280 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:58,640 that's kind of a lot, but um, the zoning task force looked at this 281 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,680 issue and found that this is kind of a an issue that's starting to arise in a 282 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,000 lot of towns. We don't see it too much here in Eastham, so this is trying to be 283 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:09,200 proactive, but the use of vinyl fences, specifically 284 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:13,320 white vinyl fences and, um, kind of the detrimental impact that can have on the 285 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,640 character of the community. Um it's something that the task force 286 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:21,240 felt strongly that if we, you know, allow that to proliferate in town, it 287 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,440 would kind of take away from again the quality and character of our town, which 288 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,520 is really rural and a lot of greenery, a lot of street a 289 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,480 lot of treescapes and naturalized buffers in town. 290 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,200 And um so this is just trying to put a 291 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:40,320 guardrail on very limited instances and on the use of materials on 292 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:44,160 fences. So again, this would just be solid panel fences along your 293 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:48,480 street-facing property line. 294 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:51,720 Side and rear um fences, no change at all. You could basically you can do 295 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,080 whatever you like, any kind of material, anything you like. 296 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,160 Um picket fences, split rail fences, 297 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,600 there's really no change. We're just talking about where someone wants to put 298 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:04,960 up a stockade or solid panel fence, they would be 299 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,400 basically it would it would require you to use 300 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:12,600 um a wood a wood material or some natural material. Okay, so for 301 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,320 homeowners that already have this, are they kind of exempt until they need to 302 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:21,520 replace or how are we going to handle that? Yes, absolutely. So any this would 303 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:25,120 not affect any existing fence. Um those are exempt. It would those could 304 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,040 remain in place until such time that they 305 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:35,960 um are replaced and at that point the new fence would have to adhere to the 306 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:38,520 the new requirement. Okay, so um would this be enforced by the building 307 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,320 department or like flagged in a permanent process? 308 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Uh it would be part of the enforcement um 309 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,880 that happens in um the building division. 310 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Um I think the first step that we try to do and and I got to admit, you know, we 311 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:59,480 need to do a better job, my department, but um is education and outreach and 312 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:03,240 making sure people understand these new regulations and what they mean 313 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,880 and when they take effect and, you know, what the 314 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,720 what the issues are. So that's something I got to prioritize in 315 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,440 our department and make sure we get the word out if these if these new rules go 316 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:17,000 into effect so that folks are are aware of them. And then the goal with that is 317 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,400 to lessen the impact of having to do enforcement. 318 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Right. And a fence doesn't currently require a 319 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,520 permit, correct? So it would be all up to public 320 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,200 education and making sure our community knows. Okay. 321 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,800 » Um so I guess that kind of wraps up the fences. 322 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,360 Um now we'll move on to the next prohibited 323 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:42,280 use. Um would you like to start with storage containers? 324 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:47,400 Sure. So um storage containers again, the 325 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:53,560 the proposal is to prohibit the use of metal storage containers, shipping 326 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:57,440 containers on residential properties. Again, this is something that the task 327 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:02,720 force looked at as sort of a um a phenomenon that's trying to take 328 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,920 effect. It's not quite overly prevalent in East Hampton, but again, it's trying 329 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:10,000 to be proactive to avoid, you know, potential issues in the future. Um 330 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,800 so we're talking about metal shipping containers. 331 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Um and really the question goes back to 332 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:23,920 your first question, what is zoning and why do we have it? And it's really um 333 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:29,040 to try to have guardrails on uses and um appropriate uses in different 334 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,720 parts of uh different parts of our community. So the question really comes 335 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:37,200 down to whether these um containers, which are really 336 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,760 industrial, commercial units and intended for, you know, global 337 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,520 shipping, whether those are appropriate use 338 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:51,160 to be in residential use for essentially storage units or sheds. And 339 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,200 again, the task force has looked a lot at this issue. 340 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Um I know there's some differences of opinion out there, so it you know, we've 341 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,680 had discussions with the select board and the task force and it's an ongoing 342 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,880 discussion. I think probably it'll continue um the next select board 343 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:11,600 hearing, but um it really is just a question of what's 344 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,680 what's appropriate, what does the community feel is appropriate um 345 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:20,920 for the types of uses and the types of materials used for 346 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:25,240 for storage in the residential zones. Okay, so um how is this going to affect 347 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,440 business owners, homeowners that may have these already? 348 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,720 So um assuming this prohibition went into 349 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:37,880 effect, there would be no change to the existing 350 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,800 folks that have existing containers, they could keep them until such time as 351 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,520 they, you know, get rid of them. 352 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,640 Um they would be treated as structures just 353 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,840 like a shed or an accessory building, so, you 354 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,600 know, we would be working to make sure that where they 355 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:59,600 do exist, they meet the proper setbacks from their property lines. 356 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Um there is an exception in the proposal that would allow 357 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,840 um folks who are running a home occupation as a trade service, so 358 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,600 landscapers, you know, folks like that that are 359 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:15,560 operating out of their house, they could have one of these containers 360 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:19,560 to store their equipment. Um the requirement would be that the container 361 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:24,040 would have to be um concealed with some fencing or landscaping and so forth, but 362 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:28,040 it does allow them to have one container. And again, folks that have 363 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:31,200 them already could keep them as long as they meet the proper 364 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,000 um setbacks. Okay, so would this also 365 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,640 require a permit with the building department? 366 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:43,920 Yes, so again, we would treat them like other accessory structures, sheds, and 367 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,160 so forth. Um we want to make sure that they meet 368 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,480 the appropriate setbacks, and that we do that through building permit. Okay. And 369 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,400 so I think we have one left, that'd be campers and trailers. Um I know we 370 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,840 currently have this bylaw, so I think it's just some changes, it's nothing 371 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,640 really new. Yeah, so this this isn't necessarily prohibited use. We're 372 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:05,720 actually trying to do the opposite. We're trying to allow this as a 373 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:10,040 permitted use. So, currently um 374 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:14,280 the regulation requires that anyone who wants to store a camper, an RV, a 375 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,800 recreational vehicle, um vehicle trailer on their property 376 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,960 is supposed to get a permit through the select board. 377 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:26,320 There isn't really um a good 378 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,760 procedure around it. It's just kind of one of those rules that is on the books 379 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:32,960 and um you know, to be honest, it 380 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:37,720 it gets ignored a lot. Not a lot of folks come forth, so um kind of 381 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,560 recognizing that and recognizing that, you know, there are a lot of folks who 382 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,920 have these types of vehicles, we just want to actually make it easier 383 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:50,280 and less burdensome. So, the proposal is to remove the requirement for the permit 384 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:56,560 and to make the storage of these vehicles a by right. 385 00:25:53,320 --> 00:26:00,080 The only um change is that the vehicles will have to meet um 386 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,880 certain setbacks from your property line. 387 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:08,920 And so, we're trying to again trying to streamline things, make it easier, but 388 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:11,840 ensure that there's some basic um guardrails on it just to protect 389 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:16,040 against, you know, potential nuisance issues with abutters and especially um 390 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:20,680 potential issues with um traffic safety, site clearances if 391 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,280 you have things close to the road sticking out into the road impeding um 392 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,520 line of sight as you're pulling out of a driveway. So, that's why um that's why 393 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,640 the requirement for the setbacks is to make sure we have some basic safety 394 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:36,080 parameters. There is um 395 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:41,400 in the proposed amendment, there is a language that allows someone who has a 396 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:45,120 hardship that maybe can't meet the basic setback requirements, but wants to store 397 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,800 one of these vehicles, there is the capacity for that person to go to the 398 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,840 zoning board of appeals and seek a special permit 399 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,800 for extenuating circumstances. and then the the zoning board could make a 400 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:00,440 decision and it mitigate, you know, they could allow it and maybe have a 401 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,400 condition to mitigate any issues that they might um 402 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,880 they might identify, but again, it's just to allow folks to be able to keep 403 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:12,800 these vehicles and really do away with a regulation that really wasn't 404 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,880 effective in the first place. That makes sense. And will the permit request still 405 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:21,760 go through the select board? No, so again, the the only time it would 406 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,520 be required would be if there was a hardship with meeting the setbacks. And 407 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:30,760 in that case, it would go to the zoning board of appeals. Okay. So, the change 408 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,400 will just allow property owners to up to their discretion follow the bylaw, 409 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,480 but make the changes. >> Right. Yeah, so basically you have a 410 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,040 camper and RV in your yard. If you can meet the basic setback, you don't need 411 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:45,840 to do anything. Just just park the vehicle where it's supposed to be and 412 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:49,360 no problem. Well, I think that sounds more helpful than what we currently 413 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:53,160 have, so Yeah, I think so, too. Um 414 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:58,160 So, that kind of wraps up all of our zoning changes coming for our 415 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:03,040 May town meeting. Overall, how do you think our community 416 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,960 is going to take these and what do you think the benefits are? 417 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Uh well, I just I just do want to mention we didn't cover all of the 418 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:15,000 zoning. Um there is a variety of them, but I think we focused on the the most 419 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,240 important ones, which was important. So, there are some changes to our 420 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,760 residential um site coverage bylaw. 421 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Um but again, those are aimed at streamlining um regulations and making 422 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,440 it more clear, but I think we focused on the most high-profile 423 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:35,680 ones. Um So, I think just just 424 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,720 generally I would say um you know, I guess I keep going back to 425 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:44,120 your first question of what is zoning and why is it important. Um 426 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,280 it's easy to kind of look at it as a you know, boring, complicated document with 427 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,920 a bunch of rules and regulations, but it really does affect the fabric of the 428 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,360 community, the look and feel of the whole community. 429 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,840 What types of businesses, what types of amenities can happen, what types of 430 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,120 activities can happen. So, it's definitely a document that 431 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:09,600 folks should be familiar with and take an active part in. And so, really um 432 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:15,640 it's important that folks understand what these what these amendments are. Um 433 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,280 And ultimately, um it's up to the voters. At town meeting, 434 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,000 they get to set they get to decide what's appropriate for a community and 435 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,760 what what they want to see. Um but again, a lot of lot of hard work has 436 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,320 gone into the recommendations, a lot of discussion. 437 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Um all of this information is on the town's 438 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,800 website. Mhm. And there's a recommendations report um that kind of 439 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,960 summarizes. Again, it's a lot of Some of it is technical and difficult language, 440 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,000 but we um try to break it down in our summary report 441 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,320 to make it um as easy as possible to 442 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:53,880 to understand. And you'll be available if residents have questions? 443 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,520 Yes. So, I'm always available and I'm happy to meet with anybody who has 444 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:02,560 questions or concerns, just wants to learn more on on any of these topics or 445 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:07,160 anything else for that matter. Um I'm at the town hall and I'm always 446 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,360 willing to meet with whoever wants to have a discussion. Awesome. And 447 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,960 we also will be reviewing these articles at pre-town meeting? That's correct. 448 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:20,160 » So, that's a great opportunity to come and sit down and actually see what's 449 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:24,320 going to be presented in May. Right. Um the planning board started their public 450 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,960 hearing. Um so, all of all of these regulations require that they have at 451 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,880 least one formal public hearing. We have actually had a number of meetings over 452 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,920 the past um year as we developed these, but the 453 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:39,960 formal public hearing was started on um this past week on the 18th. 454 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:44,160 Um the hearing still open. It got continued to March 30th. So, 455 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,600 there'll be opportunity for more discussion and more um public feedback 456 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,960 on the 30th, and that's when the 457 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,720 planning board will vote on their recommendations 458 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,800 to town meeting on these issues. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Paul. 459 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,400 I think this was really informative, and I hope residents feel the same, and 460 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800 maybe they'll come see you with questions. All right, I hope they do. 461 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,480 Thank you for having me. So, thank you for joining us in today's episode of 462 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Turn It Up Eastham. We covered a lot of zoning amendments and what they'll look 463 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,680 like at our May town meeting, so make sure to stay informed, look up this 464 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,200 material, and come with an educated vote to town meeting in May. Remember to 465 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,560 subscribe and like us on social media for more updates and information. Thank 466 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,560 you. 467 00:31:25,766 --> 00:31:27,786 » [music]