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Minute to spare.

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Yeah morning.

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Your board is going to have
official recognition on 24,

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25th.

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They will then officially
vote there on the 25th.

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That will then be
given to the mayor

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and as an official
recommendation from the board.

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And then we will then
either at the eighth

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or the following week, decide
to inform council of the plans.

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Who's that.

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Will they have to
give a presentation.

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No so anybody could
get started on this.

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Thank you.

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Yep yep.

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All right.

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Hey you ready.

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For 30.

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You ready.

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Yep all right.

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We're running.

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So I was planning to
go through chapters 1

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through 15, so it's
half of what we did.

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We did it in two
workshops before,

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but there's a lot less changes.

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I was only going to touch
on the highlighted ones,

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but we can certainly
touch on anything else

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that you may look at again
and wanted to talk about.

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The first highlighted change
is actually a big one,

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and it's the
salaries for the town

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council members and the mayor.

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And what I put in there as a
placeholder was essentially

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double the existing.

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But that is also
essentially what 1999

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numbers are brought
to today's numbers,

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rounded to the nearest 1,000.

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So that worked out to be double.

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And you have the
spreadsheet that

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has a lot of the
other jurisdictions,

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obviously, that this is
still even low by some

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of those standards,
but it would certainly

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do a lot to bring it up to
current day numbers at least.

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So that's what's in there now.

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And the way it
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to enact that with
these code changes,

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it would apply after
the next election

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to those election
based on position.

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Yep well, I don't know what I
would do with all that money.

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Pay back all the people that you
hadn't paid for all this work

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here.

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How about that.

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So everybody's
anybody's thoughts

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on adjusting it for inflation,
bringing it up to out of 1999.

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When I was just
finishing my first year

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of teaching, May of 1999.

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The other thing we talked
about the first or second time

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around that we talked
about this issue,

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was whether we should
include an annual escalator.

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I did not, but we
certainly could add one

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if you wanted to have
it automatically go up

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every year, a certain
percentage or percentage

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that the staff gets for
cost of living or something.

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Some jurisdictions do that,
it just ends up making them.

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I think that's fair.

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Yeah, I was thinking about it.

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I mean, personally, as
somebody as we're elected,

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I feel like we should
let the people know

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when we're getting a pay raise.

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That's just me.

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So I feel like if we just make
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I mean, these are not major
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to be seeing, but I just
feel like any increase

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there should be at least
some public knowledge saying,

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hey, these guys are going
to get a pay raise again

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instead of just adding it in.

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That's just my I mean, I don't
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especially during budget time.

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We can make it
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what's already been implemented
and the budget time comes.

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That would be an opportunity
to make that statement.

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Just for a point
of clarification.

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If it's not done
all at once, would

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it only apply to the next term.

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Can you give yourself a raise.

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Yeah So you wouldn't be
able to give annuals.

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I think every year you have
to wait until the election.

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You would essentially
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till the next election.

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Yeah every four years.

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Would that be the case, then.

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This needs to be looked
at forecast it forward,

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and then come up with an
estimation of those who

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are already on the council, who
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elected then and use that
number because we wouldn't

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be able to get anything
until the election

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if we were re-elected.

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I think if you're
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what percentage you're getting
then yes, that would apply.

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But if you put it in
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it could automatically apply.

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If you say correct,
you'd have to put

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the whole thing in now, right.

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Rather than wait each year.

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Yeah what Andy was saying it
needs to go in now altogether.

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So if we were to go for
an increase with the idea

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that there's going to be an
incremental increase that takes

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that would take effect.

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Like for example, if I
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that wouldn't take that policy
wouldn't take effect for me

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until then.

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You would get the
initial and any others

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that were approved by that.

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And then each year you
would get the annual ones

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for your full term.

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I guess that word gets sticky is
that theoretically, you're now

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behind whatever that
annual increase was

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for the other people
for the first two years.

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Does that make sense.

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Because you wouldn't.

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Yeah and then everybody
would have different.

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Yeah amounts.

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They'd be compensated
every single time

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you had a change in
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and starting over.

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And to me, I mean, I agree
that bringing the whole

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all the levels up to a more
reasonable or timely level,

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I agree with that.

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I don't know about the
incremental annual increase

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thing just because it's going
to make things very complicated,

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and I don't know that.

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I don't know that I
agree with that anyway.

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But the other issue that
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is that if this goes
forward, then next May

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will have council members
making more than the President

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of the Council, which.

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Seems unfair, inappropriate,
unfair, whatever the word is.

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And we're the mayor technically.

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Well, yeah.

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That's right.

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So she.

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Yeah, it's her and I are
the ones and David is up.

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Yes yeah.

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So I mean, I don't
want to take away

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from anybody else who
would be benefiting

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from this in that time.

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I'll share my raise with you.

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Can we make it the 2020?

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There's no end around
because we do it in 29.

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There's no end around on that.

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The people that already.

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Well, then council members will
be making more than the mayor

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in 29.

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And so you would already be
like, say, if everybody got

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elected and we got elected again
and it's implemented in 29,

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it would encompass all
of us at the same time.

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And then going forward,
because 29 is the longest,

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the other side of all
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would that work
doing it that way we

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could delay the effectiveness.

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But then that one's
the 1 three and Mayor

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are only guaranteed it for
two years until the salary.

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So I'm OK with if
it's Doctor Montgomery

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and miss Curry and Mayor
cook again, I'm fine

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with them making
more money than me.

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So it's a stipulation only
if they're elected, right.

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If it's somebody else.

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Oh, this means I'm going
to have to buy beers.

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OK, you said it.

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Food for thought.

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Also, because I know
it's always kind

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of awkward to advocate
for your own compensation

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or future compensation.

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You can create something in
here that allows you to say,

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this must be re-evaluated.

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This will be up for
reevaluation every eight years

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or something, so that
it's not you deciding

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that it should be erased.

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It is this automatically
reconsidered at the next one.

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I know it since it
hasn't been since 1999.

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And finally, like, OK,
this has been long enough,

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but no one wants to be
the person that says,

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I think we all deserve a raise.

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Well, I think you
create that mechanism.

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No, I don't have
a problem saying

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I think the council deserves a
raise because I think it's also

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for the future councils,
not just the five of us now,

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but for the people
down the road.

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I mean, still getting
paid based on 1999 salary

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seems a little low.

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So it seems like
everybody's in favor of the.

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Increase and then maybe we could
look at some kind of language

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like Mr. kitcher
was talking about,

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where it could be reevaluated
every so often, automatically.

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If everybody seems OK with that.

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Yeah, I'll abstain.

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A it affects me and I have mixed
feelings about this so I know.

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Please proceed.

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The next changes go
back up to the boards.

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I'm going to do all
the highlighted ones.

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So that's salary go down.

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Yep so this was based on
comments from the council.

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About town residency.

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And this is now saying
that it can allow non town

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residents if they have
possess certain qualifications

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or expertise.

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But every board
committee, task force

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has to have at least 2/3 of
its membership town residents.

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I think that's the
direction I got

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and rewatching the
previous workshops.

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And then I included
language here

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about not getting compensation
so I could take it.

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Remember, some boards had
it, some boards didn't.

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None of those get compensation.

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I did say, unless specifically
provided otherwise,

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because the Eastern
Utilities Commission does get

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compensation, but
they're the only one

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that I know of that does.

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So I think they get the same
as the Council members do.

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So I'll have to visit
with them whether they're

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going to raise
their salaries based

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on you all doing that as well.

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Any questions on
this or concerns.

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Have we ever had an
issue with not having 2/3

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of the membership of
a committee or task

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force being town residents.

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I don't know.

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I don't think we've ever
tracked it that way.

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We certainly have had
members on various boards

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that have not been
town residents,

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whether we've ever had three
at the same time, I don't know.

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The next.

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So I'm sorry.

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Go back.

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That was 2/3.

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Yes OK.

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Yeah thank you.

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And unless otherwise specified.

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So some could be more.

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Restricted And then
the next couple

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highlighted changes
are just like I said,

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taken out the compensation.

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A couple of places.

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Then the next.

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I think it's a little ways down.

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I'm sorry.

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Could we go back.

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I'm trying to figure out
whether I want to erase this,

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but I think I should.

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The sentence in section 2.3
says while members of boards,

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commissions, committees
and task forces

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may allow non-residents
to be members.

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It's not the boards that
appoint them, is it.

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Oh, yeah.

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No language.

262
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Maybe it shouldn't
say members at all.

263
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Just say well,
boards, commissions,

264
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committees and tasks.

265
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Maybe they have non-residents.

266
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Yeah OK thank you.

267
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Good catch.

268
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269
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I like page 10.

270
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Yeah if you could go
down to the next one

271
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while I make that quick.

272
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273
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Oops go into the
highlighted one.

274
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It's Tyler.

275
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It's a little ways
down, I think.

276
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277
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2.15 if you get to
a page that we know.

278
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279
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Are absentee ballots,
maybe page 69.

280
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That's what you think it is.

281
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282
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Yep that is it.

283
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And that was where
we made the change.

284
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We talked about at
the first workshop

285
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that it could be
postmarked before you

286
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had to have it received by
the day of the election.

287
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And I think the mayor
brought up well,

288
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we don't count the
votes, the absentee

289
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ballots till 4:00 the next day.

290
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What if it's postmarked
the election day

291
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and we receive it by o'clock.

292
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Then it could be counted.

293
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And so that's what
that change represents.

294
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295
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So I think that might
be the end of this one.

296
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297
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Chapter 9.

298
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Yep all right.

299
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We're moving to chapter 9.

300
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The second document.

301
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302
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Or at least that second PDF.

303
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304
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So the first change related to
burning combustible materials

305
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and.

306
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307
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Added the qualifier
provided it does not

308
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produce any noxious
or excessive smoke

309
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or odor detrimental to
neighboring property.

310
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I think Tom deem had suggested
some language to that effect,

311
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to give them some
flexibility to enforce

312
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this provision a little better.

313
00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:36,150
And then someone had mentioned
we should define incinerator.

314
00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:40,330
So I found that definition
for an incinerator.

315
00:14:40,330 --> 00:14:45,330
What this didn't do, but
maybe you want to add

316
00:14:45,330 --> 00:14:48,910
is we talked about
whether an incinerator is,

317
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has to be in some
other structure

318
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or whether it can be a
standalone incinerator.

319
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320
00:15:00,410 --> 00:15:03,770
I don't know if anyone
has any thoughts on that.

321
00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:06,430
I didn't get consensus
of what I should.

322
00:15:06,430 --> 00:15:11,110
So my question is, what kind of.

323
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324
00:15:13,770 --> 00:15:16,850
What kind of
incinerator go into.

325
00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:20,370
So it's not seen as that the
ideas like in a shed or a

326
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where I mean.

327
00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,570
Yeah outbuilding.

328
00:15:24,570 --> 00:15:25,370
I don't know.

329
00:15:25,370 --> 00:15:26,730
I mean, is that safe.

330
00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:28,190
Can you put Yeah,
I wasn't really,

331
00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:31,330
but you can't put an
incinerator inside a building.

332
00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:34,250
That's not safe.

333
00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,030
Trailer what's that.

334
00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:38,930
They have them on a
trailer sometimes.

335
00:15:38,930 --> 00:15:41,850
So there's more of a
movable incinerator.

336
00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:46,170
And then I think there's more of
a permanent fixture incinerator.

337
00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:48,550
But, yeah, not necessarily
within a structure,

338
00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:50,390
I wouldn't think,
but I wasn't sure.

339
00:15:50,390 --> 00:15:53,110
And someone had brought it
up at our previous workshop,

340
00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:55,770
so I didn't change it yet,
but I just wanted to raise

341
00:15:55,770 --> 00:15:59,650
that issue that I didn't.

342
00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:01,930
Yeah, because we had an
incinerator in Matthews town

343
00:16:01,930 --> 00:16:04,610
run and it looks
like a dumpster.

344
00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:06,130
Burn stuff.

345
00:16:06,130 --> 00:16:08,690
So, I mean, I don't
know where you would.

346
00:16:08,690 --> 00:16:10,910
I mean, it's enclosed
already being.

347
00:16:10,910 --> 00:16:12,290
Is it permanent.

348
00:16:12,290 --> 00:16:14,870
No, it's kind of
like a roll off.

349
00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:16,430
It just rolls off
like a dumpster.

350
00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:19,310
Would you do what you
got to do there on site.

351
00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:22,370
And then they take it away
and then they take it away.

352
00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:23,470
Is that what we're
talking about.

353
00:16:23,470 --> 00:16:25,930
We're not talking
about a permanent.

354
00:16:25,930 --> 00:16:27,290
The way it reads
now that would be

355
00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:30,030
allowed to have a permanent
one would be allowed.

356
00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:35,710
Well, out, saying a portable
one would also be able to do it.

357
00:16:35,710 --> 00:16:38,430
Well, I don't think we want to
allow a permanent one, do we.

358
00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:41,810


359
00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:45,130
I wouldn't want a permanent
incinerator in my neighborhood.

360
00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:47,290
We do.

361
00:16:47,290 --> 00:16:47,870
I don't think so.

362
00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:50,850
But if it's not providing any
obnoxious or excessive smoke

363
00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:54,070
or odor detrimental to
neighboring properties, then.

364
00:16:54,070 --> 00:16:57,610


365
00:16:57,610 --> 00:16:59,570
Yeah, you may not know
it's an incinerator.

366
00:16:59,570 --> 00:17:04,150
And is a crematorium
considered an incinerator.

367
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:05,369
I thought about that.

368
00:17:05,369 --> 00:17:06,609
Those are inside there.

369
00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:09,329
Yeah, maybe.

370
00:17:09,329 --> 00:17:11,810
So, like the Humane Society.

371
00:17:11,810 --> 00:17:16,290
Exactly they probably
have a permanent

372
00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:17,770
a permanent incinerator.

373
00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:22,410
I don't know whether
it's inside or not.

374
00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:26,329
All right.

375
00:17:26,329 --> 00:17:29,270
No homemade incinerators is
what we're trying to get at.

376
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:30,890
How do you say that.

377
00:17:30,890 --> 00:17:35,570
Nicely built in incinerator.

378
00:17:35,570 --> 00:17:38,030
The only other way is you
can permit incinerators.

379
00:17:38,030 --> 00:17:39,030
So hospital.

380
00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:41,890


381
00:17:41,890 --> 00:17:44,730
Hospital will be built in.

382
00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:48,570
There's and that's
hospitals a commercial.

383
00:17:48,570 --> 00:17:50,630
Yeah I mean, we're talking
about residential incinerators.

384
00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:51,950
And do those need
to be permitted.

385
00:17:51,950 --> 00:17:54,130
I mean, there's an
extra work, but there's

386
00:17:54,130 --> 00:17:55,850
a way you can maybe
regulate those differently

387
00:17:55,850 --> 00:17:57,510
than a commercial building.

388
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:59,010
Who is going to have
all the building

389
00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:01,530
code and regulatory
things before they have

390
00:18:01,530 --> 00:18:03,870
those at their establishments.

391
00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:08,610
So that makes sense to permit
them in a residential capacity

392
00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:10,030
could environment.

393
00:18:10,030 --> 00:18:13,850
But maybe then something that
happens in the zoning ordinance

394
00:18:13,850 --> 00:18:19,070
as opposed to here in the
fire chapter of the code,

395
00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:20,890
but I don't know.

396
00:18:20,890 --> 00:18:24,410
Just thinking about a permit,
there's not necessarily

397
00:18:24,410 --> 00:18:28,730
a permit for this stuff.

398
00:18:28,730 --> 00:18:30,470
I guess we could
create one, but.

399
00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:33,170


400
00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:35,650
Yeah, I think it's
my only thoughts

401
00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:39,770
were around the residential
use of a roll off incinerator.

402
00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:43,770
I mean, who is determining
what is appropriate or not

403
00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:51,570
based off of the look of it, the
size of it, the material, it's.

404
00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:53,730
But I don't know.

405
00:18:53,730 --> 00:18:55,930
Well, I also think the
main point here is also

406
00:18:55,930 --> 00:18:57,810
so that you're not just
having a big burn pile

407
00:18:57,810 --> 00:19:01,230
in your backyard in town that
could go in any which way.

408
00:19:01,230 --> 00:19:03,670
So the idea is that it's
going to be enclosed, right.

409
00:19:03,670 --> 00:19:05,150
Which I think is important.

410
00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:11,850
So we're good with that.

411
00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:13,310
Yeah, I'm good with it as is.

412
00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:14,850
And if we need to make
something based off

413
00:19:14,850 --> 00:19:17,090
of something that
rises up, we can

414
00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:19,730
always adjust it or reevaluate.

415
00:19:19,730 --> 00:19:25,690
This next change is just 1112.

416
00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:32,510
Page 5.

417
00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:37,490


418
00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:42,190
1112 oh 4545.

419
00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:47,290
Yeah all right.

420
00:19:47,290 --> 00:19:49,550
So this we had talked about.

421
00:19:49,550 --> 00:19:52,690


422
00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:55,090
We had had language
about bringing the trash

423
00:19:55,090 --> 00:19:56,990
receptacles to the curb.

424
00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:59,550
And then we realized, well, we
only do that for residential.

425
00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:01,210
So we added residential.

426
00:20:01,210 --> 00:20:05,050
And then curb maybe is
not the right terminology

427
00:20:05,050 --> 00:20:06,290
for everywhere.

428
00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:09,570
So it was to the edge of the
property along a public street

429
00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:12,010
or such other location
as designated by the town

430
00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:13,970
for collection, to give a
little bit of flexibility

431
00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:16,450
for unique situations.

432
00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:18,210
You were good with that.

433
00:20:18,210 --> 00:20:22,610
OK pretty good.

434
00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:23,610
All right.

435
00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:25,630
And then the next section.

436
00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:31,210


437
00:20:31,210 --> 00:20:33,850
This is about the trash fee.

438
00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:38,050
And I think the council
wanted that an appeal to go

439
00:20:38,050 --> 00:20:40,570
to the board of zoning appeals.

440
00:20:40,570 --> 00:20:44,490
And so that change
was made there.

441
00:20:44,490 --> 00:20:47,210
And I'm sorry, instead
of coming to us

442
00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:51,930
the amount of the
trash fee should go

443
00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:53,630
to the board of zoning appeals.

444
00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:55,110
Well, it goes to
the town engineer.

445
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:58,330
And if the person doesn't like
that decision from the town

446
00:20:58,330 --> 00:21:00,290
engineer, they can
appeal the town engineer

447
00:21:00,290 --> 00:21:02,150
decision to the board
of zoning appeals,

448
00:21:02,150 --> 00:21:03,810
just like they do any other.

449
00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:04,750
Oh, so.

450
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:09,030
OK So they're not
deciding the fee there.

451
00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:11,410
Yeah, it's only an appeal.

452
00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:13,110
So if they bring in, say what.

453
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:15,170
I've charged the wrong fee.

454
00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:18,290
And Rick, probably with Sandy
or whoever takes a look at it

455
00:21:18,290 --> 00:21:20,150
and says, no, you
charge the right fee.

456
00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:21,930
And they say, I want to
appeal that it would go

457
00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:23,270
to the board of zoning appeals.

458
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:26,650
Gotcha which is the
process that's set up for.

459
00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:30,050
And really, all staff
that appeals like that.

460
00:21:30,050 --> 00:21:35,550
And then I think there was the
council wanted to be made aware,

461
00:21:35,550 --> 00:21:36,670
though when those happened.

462
00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:38,690
So we added language
to say that the council

463
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:40,670
gets a copy of that appeal.

464
00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:46,250


465
00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:49,950
And I think that let's see.

466
00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:50,950
Is there anything else.

467
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:57,650


468
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:58,150
Oh yes.

469
00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:01,570
There was a small change.

470
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:09,570
I think Nick Ewing had made us
aware that traveling nurses.

471
00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:11,850
Would solve a lot
of their issues

472
00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:13,610
if we could make
short term housing

473
00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:16,850
three months or below instead
of four months or below.

474
00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:19,790
And so I think the council
was receptive to that.

475
00:22:19,790 --> 00:22:22,750
That was a good rationale
for making that change.

476
00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:27,730
It wouldn't really have a huge
effect on the weekly stuff

477
00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:30,790
that we were you're worried
about more in a neighborhood.

478
00:22:30,790 --> 00:22:37,150
So I think that was the
last page in this chapter.

479
00:22:37,150 --> 00:22:39,850


480
00:22:39,850 --> 00:22:43,010
There were a couple of issues
that the council raised

481
00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:44,890
that are not addressed
here yet, because I

482
00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:47,610
didn't feel like there
was a consensus yet

483
00:22:47,610 --> 00:22:49,490
on how to address them.

484
00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:52,170
One was voter IDs.

485
00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:54,450
We talked about it
a little bit, and I

486
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:56,690
didn't know whether that's
something you wanted

487
00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:57,670
to move forward with or not.

488
00:22:57,670 --> 00:22:59,970
I think you all said we
want to think about it

489
00:22:59,970 --> 00:23:01,510
and come back to that issue.

490
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:04,270
So bringing it back.

491
00:23:04,270 --> 00:23:07,330


492
00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:08,110
You heard that live.

493
00:23:08,110 --> 00:23:10,610
Do you know chapter or not.

494
00:23:10,610 --> 00:23:13,850
It will go in the
elections election section.

495
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,630
So obviously we're just talking
about our town elections.

496
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:17,710
Yes so.

497
00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:20,500


498
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:23,220
Give me the background because
I'm not sure I remember.

499
00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:24,480
That was one of my questions.

500
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,140
What is the state
policy when it comes

501
00:23:26,140 --> 00:23:28,780
to voter ID identification.

502
00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:30,413
Because states
control elections.

503
00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:31,480
So what's the state of Maryland.

504
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,360
State doesn't control municipal.

505
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:33,880
No it doesn't.

506
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,380
You're right.

507
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:37,060
But it sets the rules for the
elections within the state.

508
00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:42,520
So the state I believe ID is
required to register to vote,

509
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040
but not when you show
up on election day,

510
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,420
is my recollection.

511
00:23:49,420 --> 00:23:52,580
And everybody who votes in a
town election is registered

512
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:56,260
is registered with the
Board of Elections.

513
00:23:56,260 --> 00:23:57,880
Yeah they keep our list now.

514
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,400
It used to be we
had a separate list,

515
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,120
but now they keep our list.

516
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:07,060


517
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:08,120
I'll stick my neck out.

518
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,480
I think we should be
requiring voter IDs.

519
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,400
I think government
should, at every level.

520
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,580
But at least we
have our opportunity

521
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:18,420
to state that we
want to guarantee

522
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:21,980
the integrity of the elections
we don't want people to be

523
00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:24,660
able to walk in, claim
they're somebody else just

524
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:26,320
because they know the address.

525
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,940


526
00:24:29,940 --> 00:24:30,800
Anybody else.

527
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,700


528
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,040
Do what are we.

529
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,600
So as far as identification
is concerned,

530
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320
what would we accept
as identification.

531
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,280
Picture identification.

532
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,940
Official state issued
ID card or driver's

533
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:50,660
license Passport
something has photo

534
00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:52,680
government issued ID photo ID.

535
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,640
Yeah, it's the only thing.

536
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,500
So if you're an 18-year-old
voting for the first time

537
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:00,580
and you don't have
a driver's license,

538
00:25:00,580 --> 00:25:04,200
what would you have as a picture
ID if you don't have a passport,

539
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,760
you get a state ID card.

540
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,900
You would have a non-driving
ID that's issued by DMV.

541
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:13,560
But if they haven't set
out to begin that process,

542
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,007
if they haven't been, if they
weren't interested in driving

543
00:25:16,007 --> 00:25:17,540
to that point, well,
then they're probably not

544
00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:18,560
interested in voting either.

545
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,260
So it's simple enough.

546
00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:23,000
There are a lot of states.

547
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,280
There are a lot of
samples out there.

548
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,020
I just I didn't pull it all
together because I wasn't sure

549
00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:28,600
if that's something you
wanted to do or not,

550
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,020
but I think there was some
language that I saw that talked

551
00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:33,440
about what was
acceptable or not,

552
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,900
that we could compare
other jurisdictions if you

553
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,940
want to move forward with that.

554
00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:42,440
Does that eliminate absentee.

555
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,140


556
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:47,780
Municipals? all in
all, on location.

557
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:51,620
I know Mr. Forte had talked
to in the past about the idea

558
00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:56,380
of you would need your ID
to get your absentee ballot

559
00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:58,680
to get your absentee ballot.

560
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,340
I mean, some capacity, but
that would require the folks

561
00:26:01,340 --> 00:26:04,180
at the front, at the front
desk to be inspecting

562
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:06,520
IDs when they're picking up.

563
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,140
I don't think it's not overly
complicated if waitresses

564
00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:13,120
in a bar can inspect IDs.

565
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:13,920
Yeah no, I get it.

566
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,400
I'm just saying that would be a
requirement for them to do that.

567
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
I can't guarantee who fills
it out and submits it,

568
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,680
but I can say who picked it up.

569
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,740
So I mean, that's about
all we can do, but I don't.

570
00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:27,780
That's not a bridge
too far if we're

571
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:32,260
for absentee, if that was the
determining factor on if we were

572
00:26:32,260 --> 00:26:37,500
going to require it on site,
are there any municipalities

573
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,540
in the state of
Maryland that require

574
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:42,200
and you might not know this yet.

575
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Yeah, I don't know that yet
because 36 states require it,

576
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,160
but I don't know in
terms of how many.

577
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000
36 we're not one of them.

578
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,780
It says 36 require voters
to present ID in order

579
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:59,620
to vote at the polls
on election day.

580
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:01,080
But Maryland does not.

581
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,420
Maryland does not.

582
00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:03,280
There are.

583
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,320
And most of them have
exceptions to the rules,

584
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,600
but they're very blue.

585
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,620
States do not.

586
00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:13,880
So this doesn't violate
8 by requiring them.

587
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,480
And I've heard this
argument in the past.

588
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,500
That's why I'm bringing it up
because I wouldn't want to see

589
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,760
us get in a bind with it.

590
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,020
But the 23rd Amendment,
not 20 sorry,

591
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:26,340
24th Amendment says that there's
not going to be any poll taxes,

592
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:29,140
which is a fee in
order to vote if you

593
00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:30,680
have to get a driver's license.

594
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,540
Some places have considered
that a fee in order to vote.

595
00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:38,020
So does that violate
the 24th Amendment,

596
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,820
which somebody's going to sue
the town of Easton because it

597
00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:42,220
violates the 20,
because they think

598
00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:43,600
it violates the 24th Amendment.

599
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,340
Whether it does or
not is why hasn't

600
00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:46,680
the Supreme Court already.

601
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,300
I don't that's why I'm asking.

602
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,680
I think so, but I don't know
the answer to that right now.

603
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,460
Yeah, I just like to
make sure before we.

604
00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:58,580
Yeah, I would
argue it's probably

605
00:27:58,580 --> 00:28:00,140
sounds like there's some
interest in at least

606
00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:01,760
looking at this further.

607
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840
So maybe I'll pull
together everything.

608
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,280
But I would like
to say one thing.

609
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,380
We struggle to get people out
to vote in municipal elections

610
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:20,500
as it is, and I would
hate to put any impediment

611
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:22,940
in a potential voters way.

612
00:28:22,940 --> 00:28:25,560
I would like to I hear
what everybody's saying,

613
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,860
but I'd like to know what
the exception to the rule

614
00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:33,360
is, because there may be some
situations where I lose my ID,

615
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:37,940
I want to go vote, but I didn't
have enough time to go do it.

616
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:40,780
I just want to make sure that
it's fair across the board

617
00:28:40,780 --> 00:28:44,980
that no one is deprived
the opportunity to vote,

618
00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:48,500
because there's too many people
who have died just to vote.

619
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:52,560
And I'm quite concerned about
people coming in and say,

620
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,600
I'm Elmer Davis.

621
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000
And then when I come in to
vote, they say already voted.

622
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,500
I said, that didn't happen.

623
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:03,000
I mean, so I'm quite
concerned on both ends,

624
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,180
but I just want to
make sure that we're

625
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:10,260
doing the right thing
going forward and not

626
00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:12,000
dialing some things backwards.

627
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,940


628
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:17,820
OK anybody else.

629
00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:18,800
No I'll look more into it.

630
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,060
I'll pull some stuff
together for the next one.

631
00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:23,420
Next workshop for that.

632
00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:28,600
Then the final thing that was
raised before were false alarms.

633
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,520
And I got a copy of the County
false alarm legislation.

634
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,780
So I don't know if you had
a chance to look at that

635
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:37,260
and whether that
satisfies any concerns

636
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:38,820
or whether we want
to do something

637
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:41,300
additional in the town code.

638
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:43,180
So it said that if
there was more than two

639
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:45,080
nuisance alarms like any.

640
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,540
So basically it puts the
onus on the departments

641
00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:49,680
to make a complaint
to the County,

642
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,580
is what it looked like to me.

643
00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:53,860
Like we've been to a
place on West Street

644
00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:57,460
probably 2 times
within the last month,

645
00:29:57,460 --> 00:29:59,640
let alone in the calendar year.

646
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,980


647
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:09,600
So what was the.

648
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,740
I don't remember
how this came up.

649
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:16,340
I think we were just
talking about false alarms

650
00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:19,540
and whether or not there
is any kind of penalty

651
00:30:19,540 --> 00:30:21,080
that the town could enforce.

652
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,140


653
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:26,940
Or wanted to enforce.

654
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:28,460
Yeah, I think you can.

655
00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:32,520
Yeah you just have to
decide if do we want to.

656
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,220
And then the amount
comes secondary to it.

657
00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:42,160
And if you do there is sometimes
a grace period after two.

658
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,020
The third one, there's a
whole bunch of different ways

659
00:30:45,020 --> 00:30:49,080
you can see there'd be like
a charges for false alarms.

660
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Yeah like a fine.

661
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,420
There would be a fee you'd have
to pay for the company coming

662
00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:53,300
out again.

663
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:56,440
Yeah or the police coming.

664
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,260
Yeah I don't know
if it's a police.

665
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:01,760
I'm sorry.

666
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,060
What does the County do
after the second the chief

667
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:08,500
from any department
or department

668
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,780
can file something
with the County

669
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,980
if they've been out to a
certain place more than twice

670
00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:19,340
in a calendar year for a
false alarm, more than twice

671
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:21,660
in a calendar year.

672
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:26,020
But the fire company,
the fire company

673
00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:30,540
has to file the complaint
with the County.

674
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:32,640
I mean, they may do some
enforcement on their own,

675
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,220
but I can't imagine
they have any way

676
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:37,060
of knowing unless the fire
department reports it.

677
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:40,220
So it would be up to
the Department to do it.

678
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:43,040
But even I mean, even if we
were to implement something,

679
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,980
it would be up to the Department
to let the town know that we've

680
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:48,360
been out to this place
four times this month,

681
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,100
and they're not seem
to be changing their.

682
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:54,500
I mean, I think twice
in a calendar year is

683
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:56,940
a little severe, but I
think four times in a month

684
00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:01,100
is definitely warranted for.

685
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,500
So I don't have
a problem looking

686
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:10,960
into some sort of a fine for the
repeat offender, if you will.

687
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,660


688
00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:19,140
Does the County ordinance
only apply outside the towns.

689
00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:23,300
When we met with them.

690
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,080
I think they applied it
within the town as well.

691
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,860
It's my recollection.

692
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,780
So do we need to have one.

693
00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:33,320
That's really the question.

694
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Does this cover what
we would do anyway,

695
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,260
or do we want to do
something stricter I guess.

696
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:44,740
I mean, two in a calendar years,
it can't be much less than that.

697
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:48,780
What's a municipal infraction.

698
00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:51,300
I don't know how much
they enforce this.

699
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:53,480
Yeah, they have it on the books.

700
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,220


701
00:32:57,220 --> 00:33:00,020
But I also don't know if fire
departments are reporting it.

702
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,620
So maybe they don't know.

703
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:04,700
Yeah I'll say something
to Chief Dobson

704
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:10,040
and see if anybody any other
departments are, I mean.

705
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,100
But to be honest, I mean, Easton
gets the bulk of the alarms

706
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,920
anyway in the County.

707
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,580


708
00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:20,840
Yes Salisbury is within
a year or two freebies.

709
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,340
Third one, you're
getting charged.

710
00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:29,500
And I think it's important
like, I guess being left up

711
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,420
the department's important
because obviously there's

712
00:33:31,420 --> 00:33:35,060
a difference between
a malfunctioning

713
00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:39,900
detector which just has gone
bad versus somebody smoking

714
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:41,480
in the hallway of the building.

715
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,420
And then it sets it off and it's
repeatedly that's the reason

716
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:46,700
why you go there.

717
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:52,600
OK Yeah I'll check
with him about it.

718
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,540
And the only other thing I have.

719
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,060
We're going to need at
least one more workshop

720
00:34:01,060 --> 00:34:03,440
to go through the
rest of the chapters.

721
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,380
Again, with the changes
like we did tonight,

722
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:11,500
do you want to do that
at your first meeting

723
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,679
in September,
which is a Tuesday.

724
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,719
So it's kind of weird with
the Labor Day holiday,

725
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,420
it's Tuesday the eighth.

726
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:25,199
Or would you rather wait
till the 21st and do it then.

727
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,060


728
00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:29,800
I would personally rather wait.

729
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,659
That's because I have company.

730
00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:33,699
I second that motion.

731
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:34,199
All right.

732
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,000
Sounds good Because it's
my first day of school, so.

733
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,659
Yeah OK.

734
00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:41,420
There you go.

735
00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:42,540
That's great.

736
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:44,120
Second meeting in
September for that.

737
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,980
Yep awesome.

738
00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:48,219
Kathy, you got that.

739
00:34:48,219 --> 00:34:51,940
Does anybody have anything else
as far as chapters 1 through 15

740
00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:52,900
go.

741
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:58,140
If they'd like to bring up,
we got a little bit of time.

742
00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:00,280
Just we might want
to read once again,

743
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:08,260
Section 4.4 of on how the
definition of a meadow

744
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:11,700
will be changed.

745
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:12,960
We got a couple minutes.

746
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,640
We can pull that
up if we wanted to.

747
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,540
Yeah, that sounds good.

748
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:16,040
Thank you.

749
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,620
It's 11.

750
00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:19,620
Is it.

751
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:20,320
Chapter 11.

752
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,340
Chapter 11.

753
00:35:21,340 --> 00:35:24,100
All right.

754
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:24,960
Said section 4.

755
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,460
I think let me get there.

756
00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:33,580
Come on.

757
00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:35,620
You said 4.4, David.

758
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:36,600
That's what I remember.

759
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,060
But I can't remember
which I thought

760
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:43,320
it was chapter 5 for
some reason, but come on,

761
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,460
I can't get back.

762
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:52,420
Trying to get back to any old
and table of contents and see,

763
00:35:52,420 --> 00:35:54,420
I think it's in
chapter 11, but that's

764
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:57,400
one of those ones where it
has a lot of point somethings.

765
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,020
And so it could be
that it changed.

766
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:05,580
Yes and I'm not
sure what it was.

767
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:06,760
What letter it may have.

768
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,040
It may have been a letter.

769
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,880
It is page 30.

770
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Demoted it a bit.

771
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,460
Page 30 of the second document.

772
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:15,120
Oh there it is.

773
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,480
Yeah thank you, thank you.

774
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,660


775
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:28,180
Yeah it's 11 5, but then
it's of the property

776
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:30,120
maintenance code three or 2.4.

777
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,240
So it has those two
different numbers.

778
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,520
OK here we are.

779
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,120
Yeah 11 5.2.20.

780
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:45,220
Chapter 3 general
regulations 302.4 weeds.

781
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:47,860
Exceptions number four Meadows.

782
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:55,060
Yeah provided that
no portion extends

783
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:57,300
into public right of way.

784
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,180
The area is set back at least 10
feet from any adjacent property

785
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:00,980
lines.

786
00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:04,740
The area is clearly delineated
from maintained lawn

787
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:08,200
by edging, fencing, mowing
strip, or other visible border,

788
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,780
and the area is maintained
free of invasive plants

789
00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:13,800
and prohibited noxious weeds.

790
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,340


791
00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:19,340
Give a definition.

792
00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:21,260
So I guess my
question is, what is.

793
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:25,980
What is the purpose
of this definition.

794
00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:26,680
It is.

795
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,620
It'll make a big difference at
Eastern club for the maintenance

796
00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:33,620
of the MHC properties,
which right

797
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:39,700
now are allowed to grow any kind
of grass, weeds or anything.

798
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:42,260
Gotcha and would only need
to be mowed in a 10 foot

799
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:44,300
perimeter for them
to declare that all

800
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,700
those weeds are a meadow.

801
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:49,180
Understood thank you.

802
00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:52,140
Put it in context for me.

803
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:52,690
Thank you.

804
00:37:52,690 --> 00:37:55,470


805
00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:58,950
OK I mean, I think
Tom's motivation

806
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:02,350
for proposing this
was just to make

807
00:38:02,350 --> 00:38:05,310
this language comply with the
current international property

808
00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:06,410
maintenance code.

809
00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:07,630
Sample language.

810
00:38:07,630 --> 00:38:11,890
But that the effect is it
will affect the East Coast.

811
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,790
So that wasn't the purpose for
it, but it is an effect of it.

812
00:38:15,790 --> 00:38:18,750
Yeah so people need to know.

813
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:21,110
OK yeah.

814
00:38:21,110 --> 00:38:22,630
Just any kind of thing.

815
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:25,590
Yeah There's a lot
of houses like that.

816
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:29,470
Great yeah.

817
00:38:29,470 --> 00:38:31,230
So, Doctor Montgomery,
you're good with that.

818
00:38:31,230 --> 00:38:32,730
Yes, absolutely.

819
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,090
Thank you for that
clarification.

820
00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:37,830
That's important that the
purpose of putting this there

821
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:40,090
was to comply with the
International Building codes.

822
00:38:40,090 --> 00:38:41,710
We didn't just make it up.

823
00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:45,970
He pulled this from somewhere
that had a sample language.

824
00:38:45,970 --> 00:38:49,990
Yeah just I know we have
a very specific case that

825
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:52,750
we're thinking
about for the item

826
00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:56,950
be if I do not have
a 10 foot setback,

827
00:38:56,950 --> 00:39:02,350
does that eliminate me from
being able to have a medal,

828
00:39:02,350 --> 00:39:05,710
thinking about more of an
in-town residential property

829
00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:08,770
that may not have that much
distance between properties.

830
00:39:08,770 --> 00:39:13,010
Is that just if you don't have
the 10 feet, you're out of luck.

831
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:16,650
I just want to make
sure that makes sense.

832
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:17,830
You wouldn't want
someone walking

833
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:21,350
by on a sidewalk to have.

834
00:39:21,350 --> 00:39:22,130
Hitting their leg.

835
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:22,870
You want to make sure.

836
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:24,270
Yeah, we're thinking
about it because it's

837
00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:27,010
not just a public right of way.

838
00:39:27,010 --> 00:39:29,110
Maintain privacy.

839
00:39:29,110 --> 00:39:38,350
OK anybody else MS Vandenberg,
thank you very much for all

840
00:39:38,350 --> 00:39:39,450
your work with this.

841
00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:42,890
And you got a
little bit of time.

842
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:44,630
We'll take a quick
break, and then we'll be

843
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:46,070
back for the meeting at 5:30.

844
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:47,770
Yeah, I was trying
to figure out.

845
00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:50,350


846
00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:51,750
So what is that.

847
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:52,810
The maintenance room.

848
00:39:52,810 --> 00:40:57,390


849
00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:09,530
You don't know.

850
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:24,070


851
00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:33,750
Me good evening, everyone.

852
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:35,950
I'd like to open
the meeting and have

853
00:41:35,950 --> 00:41:39,930
remarks and pledge of Allegiance
by Council Member Curry.

854
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:44,710


855
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:45,970
Good evening, everyone.

856
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:51,310
And in this age of online,
even the Pope is online.

857
00:41:51,310 --> 00:41:53,350
And as a good Catholic,
I'm going to read

858
00:41:53,350 --> 00:41:55,950
his newsletter every Monday.

859
00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:58,290
So I'm going to read from
his newsletter this morning.

860
00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:00,910
Lord Jesus, as we
begin this new week,

861
00:42:00,910 --> 00:42:03,350
take complete
control of our steps,

862
00:42:03,350 --> 00:42:06,070
decisions, plans and desires.

863
00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:09,590
Go before us and make
straight every crooked path.

864
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:12,310
Give us the wisdom to
recognize your will,

865
00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:15,830
the courage to obey it, and
the humility to surrender

866
00:42:15,830 --> 00:42:18,310
what we cannot control.

867
00:42:18,310 --> 00:42:20,870
Amen amen.

868
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:25,230
I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,

869
00:42:25,230 --> 00:42:27,770
and to the Republic
for which it stands.

870
00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:30,930
One nation under
God, indivisible,

871
00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:32,930
with liberty and
justice for all.

872
00:42:32,930 --> 00:42:37,710


873
00:42:37,710 --> 00:42:38,710
All right.

874
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:41,590
I'd like to open, with the
approval of the minutes

875
00:42:41,590 --> 00:42:44,050
from the August 6,
2026, regular meeting.

876
00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:47,230
Do I have any questions or
a motion on those minutes.

877
00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:48,750
I'll move to accept the minutes.

878
00:42:48,750 --> 00:42:51,870
Second We have a motion and a
second to accept the meeting

879
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:53,690
minutes of August 3, 2026.

880
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:54,250
Regular meeting.

881
00:42:54,250 --> 00:42:55,070
All in favor.

882
00:42:55,070 --> 00:42:57,190
Aye Opposed.

883
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:57,910
All right.

884
00:42:57,910 --> 00:43:00,730
Municipal items Mr. Christopher.

885
00:43:00,730 --> 00:43:01,830
Good evening sir.

886
00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:02,410
Good evening.

887
00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:04,170
Council I don't
have a long list.

888
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:06,650
I did want to just
update council.

889
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:10,230
And in the public, we've been
receiving the emails that

890
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:14,550
have been coming in about
some ongoing concerns

891
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:17,750
affecting East East residents.

892
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:20,070
East I'm sorry, Eastern club.

893
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:22,670
And we are addressing
that internally.

894
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:26,550
Our staff is on top of it and
we are looking through what

895
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:28,030
options we have available.

896
00:43:28,030 --> 00:43:29,610
From a code
enforcement standpoint,

897
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:33,630
and we'll be reaching out
to both Eastern club and the

898
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:37,510
adjacent property owner, MHC.

899
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:39,610
But I'm going to be serving
as that point of contact.

900
00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:42,310
So if you all are receive
additional communications

901
00:43:42,310 --> 00:43:43,670
from residents.

902
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:46,030
Those can be
forwarded along to me

903
00:43:46,030 --> 00:43:49,350
and then my staff, whether
planning and zoning

904
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:51,550
or a building official,
will be reaching

905
00:43:51,550 --> 00:43:56,710
out as necessary to detail out
what we're doing moving forward.

906
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:58,570
So I know there's a lot
of things going on there,

907
00:43:58,570 --> 00:44:01,630
so I just want to
update council on that.

908
00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:02,790
Thank you.

909
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:06,050
Anything anybody have anything
for Mr. Kitaro this evening.

910
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:08,630


911
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:10,910
Thank you sir MS
Vandenberg, how are you.

912
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:13,070
Good I have nothing
at this point.

913
00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:16,750
Does anybody have anything for
the town attorney this evening.

914
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:17,570
Rolling right along.

915
00:44:17,570 --> 00:44:18,590
Thank you.

916
00:44:18,590 --> 00:44:19,790
All right.

917
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:21,930
We're going to move a
couple things around,

918
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:25,150
and we're going to move
to the presentation

919
00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:27,710
proclamation presented
to the 2026 Maryland

920
00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:29,870
Junior League state champions.

921
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:33,250
And we're going to have Mr.
Rankin read that proclamation.

922
00:44:33,250 --> 00:44:37,270
And if you guys want
to please come up team

923
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:41,950
coaches any parents family
who want to be up here.

924
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:44,750
We want to get everybody up.

925
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:46,590
I'm a little nervous, guys.

926
00:44:46,590 --> 00:44:47,530
Got a big team here.

927
00:44:47,530 --> 00:44:48,990
I feel like I'm up
at bat with two outs

928
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:49,890
in the bottom of the ninth.

929
00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:52,750
And you get that run
across, so need to deliver

930
00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:53,850
this proclamation here.

931
00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:55,110
Good for y'all.

932
00:44:55,110 --> 00:44:57,630
So I have a proclamation
here from the town

933
00:44:57,630 --> 00:45:00,150
of Easton, Maryland,
for the 2026 Maryland

934
00:45:00,150 --> 00:45:02,030
Junior League state champs.

935
00:45:02,030 --> 00:45:04,830
And it reads, whereas it
gives us a tremendous amount

936
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,310
of pleasure, on behalf
of the mayor, council

937
00:45:07,310 --> 00:45:09,590
and all the citizens
of Easton to express

938
00:45:09,590 --> 00:45:11,590
to the members of
the Talbot baseball

939
00:45:11,590 --> 00:45:13,350
all stars representing Easton.

940
00:45:13,350 --> 00:45:17,110
Our sincere congratulations on
your participation in the 2026

941
00:45:17,110 --> 00:45:19,030
Maryland Junior League
region tournament

942
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:20,870
in Dubois,
Pennsylvania, where they

943
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:22,910
put together an impressive run.

944
00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:26,510
And whereas the team players,
the head coach Brian pluchek,

945
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:28,830
and coaches Jason Smith
and Bobby Callahan

946
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:32,470
are to be commended for
an exciting, hard fought

947
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:33,810
and successful season.

948
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:36,430
Advancing out of the state
tournament to represent Maryland

949
00:45:36,430 --> 00:45:37,930
in the junior baseball.

950
00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:41,350
Small junior League Baseball
2026 region tournament.

951
00:45:41,350 --> 00:45:44,230
And whereas the camaraderie,
the laughs, the memories

952
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:47,030
and the unforgettable miles
together during the practices

953
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:48,910
and tournament are
a true testament

954
00:45:48,910 --> 00:45:50,470
of an exceptional
organization that

955
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:53,710
has been active participants,
excelling in our town's efforts

956
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:55,950
to promote and provide
recreational opportunities

957
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:57,350
for our young people.

958
00:45:57,350 --> 00:46:01,350
And now, therefore, we are
pleased to publicly commend

959
00:46:01,350 --> 00:46:04,590
the Maryland Junior League state
champs for their fine efforts

960
00:46:04,590 --> 00:46:08,190
and present this proclamation as
an expression of the affection

961
00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:11,630
and admiration from the mayor,
the town council and all

962
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:14,430
our citizens to the coaches
and members of this team.

963
00:46:14,430 --> 00:46:16,550
Congratulations
on a great season.

964
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:19,210
This is signed here by
the mayor, Megan Cook.

965
00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:20,870
So congratulations.

966
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:21,370
Thank you.

967
00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:31,310


968
00:46:31,310 --> 00:46:34,110
Thank you.

969
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:35,850
I think we'll get you
a little photo here.

970
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:45,990
Yeah That's where I go.

971
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:49,510
You got a camera.

972
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:51,030
In front of you.

973
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:52,930
Yeah 1, 2.

974
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:59,230


975
00:46:59,230 --> 00:46:59,890
Let's see.

976
00:46:59,890 --> 00:47:00,690
Let's be good, boys.

977
00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:01,570
Hold it together.

978
00:47:01,570 --> 00:47:04,510


979
00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:06,690
You guys could move
in a little bit on.

980
00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:13,790


981
00:47:13,790 --> 00:47:17,210
The phone first, and then
I will take a picture of.

982
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:18,630
Three two.

983
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:22,150
One OK, now the one for the.

984
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:24,190
What's this.

985
00:47:24,190 --> 00:47:24,930
All right.

986
00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:28,350
And three 2 1.

987
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:29,010
Thank you so much.

988
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:31,710
Good job, boys.

989
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:38,510


990
00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:43,910
Thank you.

991
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:46,550
Good I'll send you the video.

992
00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:47,210
The video.

993
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:48,050
The whole thing.

994
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:52,910


995
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:54,910
I already said that.

996
00:47:54,910 --> 00:47:56,890
Chief and team don't feel
like you have to stay.

997
00:47:56,890 --> 00:47:58,890
Because the chief of police
is getting ready to come up,

998
00:47:58,890 --> 00:48:00,730
and it's going to get really
boring real quick, so.

999
00:48:00,730 --> 00:48:02,670
Yeah you're right.

1000
00:48:02,670 --> 00:48:08,010
OK thank you all.

1001
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:10,430
Yeah you don't have to stay.

1002
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:12,510
Congratulations, guys.

1003
00:48:12,510 --> 00:48:13,870
Great job.

1004
00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:17,970
Thanks congratulations.

1005
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:21,310


1006
00:48:21,310 --> 00:48:24,790
I remember where Ryan was.

1007
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:29,910
Really this is what
he was talking about.

1008
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:30,530
It's not.

1009
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:40,230


1010
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,430
Sure it is.

1011
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:45,610
Reverend Davis,
whenever you're ready.

1012
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:48,910


1013
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:49,410
Hey, Chief.

1014
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:51,990


1015
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:52,850
Chief you're up.

1016
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:56,230
So let's see if
you can beat that.

1017
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:58,750
Here we go.

1018
00:48:58,750 --> 00:48:59,430
Thank you.

1019
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,190
Council members,
town manager, the.

1020
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:04,430
I assume you all
have gotten a chance

1021
00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:05,563
to take a look at
the police board

1022
00:49:05,563 --> 00:49:07,470
report for the second quarter.

1023
00:49:07,470 --> 00:49:12,470
As usual, we were pretty busy
during the second quarter.

1024
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:13,830
As we get into summer,
it always picks

1025
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:15,190
up for us at spring
time with all

1026
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:17,430
our special events and things.

1027
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:19,110
I mean, you'll just
look at that front page

1028
00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:20,750
and see even just
the amount of patrol

1029
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:22,390
checks and neighborhood checks.

1030
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:25,690
We're talking over
1,000 in that category.

1031
00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:27,250
And then if you look
at just our patrol,

1032
00:49:27,250 --> 00:49:30,110
our patrol division in
three months handled

1033
00:49:30,110 --> 00:49:31,850
5,000 calls for service.

1034
00:49:31,850 --> 00:49:34,190
So that's a lot going on.

1035
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:35,970
And as you noticed in
that opening paragraph,

1036
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:39,070
we're doing that we did
that during that quarter

1037
00:49:39,070 --> 00:49:42,310
with some serious staffing
issues between people that were

1038
00:49:42,310 --> 00:49:46,350
on medical leave, people
that have been deployed

1039
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:49,050
and some vacancies roughly.

1040
00:49:49,050 --> 00:49:52,710
We're operating at 20%
down at that point.

1041
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:54,310
We're getting a
little bit better.

1042
00:49:54,310 --> 00:49:59,310
We have only two members
that are now on light duty.

1043
00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:04,470
They're back in the office and
helping us helping their team

1044
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:06,830
handle different things.

1045
00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:09,310
Other couple have
returned to full duty.

1046
00:50:09,310 --> 00:50:11,430
The deployments are
the deployments.

1047
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:13,450
We have two out right
now for long term,

1048
00:50:13,450 --> 00:50:15,630
and we have a couple
others that are

1049
00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:19,790
scheduled for deployments that
are going to be at least a year

1050
00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:20,510
long.

1051
00:50:20,510 --> 00:50:25,230
So it's just the way it is.

1052
00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:27,010
Our military people
are great hires,

1053
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:30,630
and it's just part of us
working with the people that

1054
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:33,070
are in reserves and the guard.

1055
00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:34,990
If you look at the community
resource and community

1056
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:39,710
engagements, I mean, you can
tell we're pretty engaged

1057
00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:42,390
in the community in terms
of the different events

1058
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:44,390
that we're at between
coffee with a cop

1059
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:47,030
teaching, active violence
response and all the

1060
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:52,630
different for citizens
going to different events.

1061
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:55,390
Officers are out at a
lot of different things.

1062
00:50:55,390 --> 00:51:00,350
It's been a very busy spring
and beginning of summer for us,

1063
00:51:00,350 --> 00:51:02,550
and we're now right
getting ready for obviously

1064
00:51:02,550 --> 00:51:03,410
school to start.

1065
00:51:03,410 --> 00:51:06,330
We had a little brief
pause here in August,

1066
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:09,110
where some of the special
events end of July kind

1067
00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:10,770
of fell off after 4th of July.

1068
00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:14,390
We took that opportunity to
do active violence response

1069
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:16,470
training, along with Talbot
County Sheriff's Office

1070
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:19,910
and some of our allied agencies
at Easton middle school

1071
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:21,250
over a two week period.

1072
00:51:21,250 --> 00:51:23,830
And that was very productive
for us to be able to do that

1073
00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:26,310
with our other allied agencies.

1074
00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:28,630
We got some good
feedback from people

1075
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:31,830
that came for training on that.

1076
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:35,590
I noticed that on the
investigation side,

1077
00:51:35,590 --> 00:51:38,430
we've had some good cases.

1078
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:41,010
Cooks hope is obviously
one that stands out.

1079
00:51:41,010 --> 00:51:42,390
That was a difficult
investigation

1080
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,550
for that home invasion.

1081
00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:47,310
But the detectives
put it together

1082
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:51,450
by tracking vehicles and stuff
to try to identify the suspects.

1083
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:55,910
And as you read in here, that
led to search warrants being

1084
00:51:55,910 --> 00:52:00,070
executed in multiple
jurisdictions in Maryland

1085
00:52:00,070 --> 00:52:03,210
with tactical teams
as well as Marshals,

1086
00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:05,950
task force catching one of
the people as a fugitive

1087
00:52:05,950 --> 00:52:07,190
out in Ohio.

1088
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:09,330
So kudos to them.

1089
00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:13,750
As it's recently,
we've also had a couple

1090
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:16,570
of incidents involving firearms
in which we made arrests.

1091
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:18,710
And in a shooting where
somebody was injured,

1092
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:21,070
we had arrest in
that within two days.

1093
00:52:21,070 --> 00:52:25,470
And we also made another arrest
in another prohibited person who

1094
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:27,190
made threats of
violence with a firearm

1095
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:28,890
and recovered two
firearms recently.

1096
00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:31,430
So we're pretty proud of
that detective work to get

1097
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:34,130
those firearms off the street.

1098
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:38,830


1099
00:52:38,830 --> 00:52:40,430
In terms of our grants.

1100
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:42,630
We successfully closed
out all our grants that we

1101
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:44,670
obtained for this last year.

1102
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:49,370
We did obtain two more, one
for additional training,

1103
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:56,070
as well as a continuation
grant for the.

1104
00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:57,290
Hero program.

1105
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:58,530
It's a great program.

1106
00:52:58,530 --> 00:53:00,530
If any of you ever want
to come out and see it,

1107
00:53:00,530 --> 00:53:03,330
it's held out at a
training facility,

1108
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:07,590
but it's aimed at youth to
instill confidence in them.

1109
00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:10,910
And most recently,
we took out some kids

1110
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:13,830
that we take kids out from
a lot of different areas

1111
00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:15,170
Multicultural Center.

1112
00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:18,670
Bam we're taking out
a scout troop soon,

1113
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:20,670
and we've taken kids out
that have been involved

1114
00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:24,360
in the foster system, as well
as kids that have been victims

1115
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,200
in the past of sexual abuse that
come into the social services

1116
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,420
system through that.

1117
00:53:29,420 --> 00:53:32,300
And we've seen a lot of
good results with that.

1118
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,460
And how it empowers the kids.

1119
00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:35,760
And we also get a
lot of kids when they

1120
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,440
get done saying what, I think I
may want to be a police officer.

1121
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,400
They get to go out
to this facility.

1122
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,760
They actually do a
mission, to save people.

1123
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,320
With police officers
as well as NPR comes

1124
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,620
out with their helicopter.

1125
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:53,420
Sometimes they're riding on
boats down creeks and stuff.

1126
00:53:53,420 --> 00:53:56,860
So it's pretty involved
and they really enjoy it.

1127
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:59,840
It's been a really
empowering program for us.

1128
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,540
So that's about
all I have for you.

1129
00:54:02,540 --> 00:54:03,800
Do you have any questions.

1130
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,680
Any questions of the chief.

1131
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,580
Yeah, I had a couple.

1132
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:09,840
Chief, if you got a second.

1133
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,240
Crossing guards with
school starting.

1134
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,420
Are we good with all of
our crossing guard hires.

1135
00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:17,240
Do we have everything filled.

1136
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:18,300
We are good, yes.

1137
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:19,960
And then.

1138
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,220
And we think we have some
applications in the queue.

1139
00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:24,540
So people are interested
in the crossing guard.

1140
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:26,920
We always take an application.

1141
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,420
And then I know it's come
up quite a bit recently.

1142
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:33,240
And I know you and I have
talked about it, but just

1143
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:37,040
for the public knowledge,
does the EPD utilize

1144
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,160
flock cameras anywhere in town.

1145
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,020
We do not.

1146
00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:41,420
OK yeah.

1147
00:54:41,420 --> 00:54:44,740
We do not use we don't
contract with flock.

1148
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:46,500
And we don't use flock cameras.

1149
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,760
OK So thank you.

1150
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Is there anything crime
related that's trending

1151
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,500
in any neighborhoods that our
citizens need to know about.

1152
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:57,640
We've had the whole County
has seen a lot of fraud.

1153
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,940
And we've actually embarked
in a fraud education process,

1154
00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:04,420
I think was one of the
neighborhoods that we hit.

1155
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:06,980
I think maybe Eastern
club is also at one point,

1156
00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:10,760
we had we're going to be
making some return rounds,

1157
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,620
but the sheriffs are also out
there doing educational rounds.

1158
00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:17,800
There's a lot of online fraud.

1159
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,480
Telephone fraud.

1160
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,920
And the amounts of money that
people are willing to give up

1161
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,660
is substantial.

1162
00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:30,280
I mean, we have some that is
10,000 and we have some even

1163
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,000
as high as 100,000, depending
on the type of fraud,

1164
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,180
whether it's sweetheart fraud
or it's other financial frauds.

1165
00:55:39,180 --> 00:55:43,200
And it's very hard for us
to investigate and prosecute

1166
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,240
because a lot of them crossed
not only over state boundaries

1167
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,080
but can also cross over
international boundaries.

1168
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,720
So the best approach for us is
to try to educate the citizenry

1169
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:55,240
about what the
types of fraud are

1170
00:55:55,240 --> 00:56:01,600
and to just say no and hang up
the phone or get off the chat.

1171
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:08,800
So yeah, I will say, as my
95-year-old mother lives with me

1172
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,480
and has a landline and
it rings constantly

1173
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,960
all day long and it's
nothing but spam calls,

1174
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,220
it's unbelievable.

1175
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:23,320
I bet it's 15 calls a day.

1176
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,780
Unbelievable it is.

1177
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:25,660
It's pernicious.

1178
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:28,500
And it is a lot.

1179
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:32,940
Some people give up a lot of
money before they realize that.

1180
00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:35,620
And a lot of people are
embarrassed about it,

1181
00:56:35,620 --> 00:56:37,560
so they don't report it.

1182
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,080
But I would encourage anybody,
if you're a family member that

1183
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,140
has somebody that's another
family member that's older,

1184
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:46,660
that to talk to them about it
and keep an eye on the finances,

1185
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:48,340
because that's often
how we find out.

1186
00:56:48,340 --> 00:56:50,480
Is that a family member
or a son or daughter

1187
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,320
says, hey, my mom or my dad.

1188
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,380
I don't even let her
answer the phone anymore.

1189
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:58,160
So it's horrible.

1190
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,480
I'm curious about something.

1191
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,780
I know we've had
it comes and goes,

1192
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:05,720
but car break ins happen often
and they different neighborhoods

1193
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:06,220
and whatnot.

1194
00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:07,980
So obviously people
need to lock their cars.

1195
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:10,720
But I'm just curious, has there
ever been a situation where

1196
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,920
anybody's been caught or
anyone's been apprehended

1197
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,840
related to CAR break ins.

1198
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,520
They go in spurts,
without a doubt.

1199
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,420
At the end of last year and
the beginning of this year,

1200
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:24,340
we had a little rash of
not only car break ins,

1201
00:57:24,340 --> 00:57:25,380
but actually stolen cars.

1202
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:28,620
And some people were
caught in those situations.

1203
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:30,760
And then recently in
the courtroom Parkway

1204
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,840
neighborhood as well
as Eastern club East,

1205
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,320
we had theft from vehicles.

1206
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,440
I don't believe we've actually
identified anybody in that case

1207
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,940
yet.

1208
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:40,180
That was a lot of cars.

1209
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:42,080
Most of those, almost all
those cars except for one

1210
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,120
were unlocked.

1211
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,040
And that's typically
what we do see

1212
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,560
is that people go around
pulling door handles,

1213
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,240
looking for the opportunity, not
actually breaking into the car,

1214
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,640
so they can be very difficult
to pin back to an actual person

1215
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,520
unless we catch somebody either
in the act or one of our best

1216
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,120
resources is people who
installed their own security

1217
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,600
systems and have
cameras that provide us

1218
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,120
at least some type of
description or photo

1219
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,140
or video of the person.

1220
00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:15,500
So we encourage
residents to take hey,

1221
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:16,940
take your safety
into your own hands.

1222
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:17,820
That's the first.

1223
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:20,140
That's the first layer
of defense against it.

1224
00:58:20,140 --> 00:58:21,480
One lock your cars.

1225
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,120
Don't keep things that
are valuable in the cars,

1226
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:29,020
and invest in your own security
system to help provide evidence.

1227
00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:31,020
So as much as I
would like to say,

1228
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:33,560
hey, we live in a
free country and I

1229
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,040
should be able to
leave my laptop

1230
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,180
in my car unlocked and
expecting nobody to steal it.

1231
00:58:38,180 --> 00:58:42,420
It's inviting heartache
down the road.

1232
00:58:42,420 --> 00:58:43,640
So thank you.

1233
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Yeah all right
chief, we appreciate

1234
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,060
thank you for what you do.

1235
00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:48,140
Keep doing what you're doing.

1236
00:58:48,140 --> 00:58:49,080
Keep us safe.

1237
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,840
Thank you, sir.

1238
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,880
Thank you.

1239
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,380
All right.

1240
00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:54,813
At this moment in the
meeting, we're moving

1241
00:58:54,813 --> 00:58:55,820
on to the public hearing.

1242
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:59,120
5:35 PM public hearing
to solicit public comment

1243
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,200
on ordinance number 861, which
proposes amendments to chapter

1244
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,800
28 of the town code zoning.

1245
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,560
The purpose of the
proposed amendments

1246
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,160
is to revise the code to
make the town's treatment

1247
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,240
of accessory
dwelling units ADUs,

1248
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,600
consistent with the
provisions of recently

1249
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960
enacted state legislation
and recommended

1250
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,760
best practices for such uses.

1251
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,780
Good evening, Mr. Thomas.

1252
00:59:22,780 --> 00:59:23,340
How are you.

1253
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:23,980
I'm fine.

1254
00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:24,720
Good evening.

1255
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,860
A tough act to follow.

1256
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,580
I've got the chief with
his professional report.

1257
00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:32,040
I've got state
champs and the Pope.

1258
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,460
Yes I'll do what I can.

1259
00:59:34,460 --> 00:59:35,140
We're excited.

1260
00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:35,800
We're ready.

1261
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:43,280
Yeah so, ordinance 861 is
brought to you in order

1262
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,600
to bring the town
into compliance

1263
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:52,880
with law that was passed by the
state legislature back in 2025.

1264
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,840
You may have followed
the state in there.

1265
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,960
They've been working on
this for gosh, probably

1266
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,440
four or five years now.

1267
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:07,400
I think they introduced
legislation in 2021 and 2022

1268
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,460
that ended temporarily in
the creation of a task force,

1269
01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:15,000
which I know oftentimes is
where legislation goes to die.

1270
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,720
But in this case, it actually
led to a proposal that

1271
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,980
was in the form of HB 1466.

1272
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:25,520
In the accompanying
Senate Bill, which

1273
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,960
passed last year in the
2025 legislative session.

1274
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Part of that required all
municipalities and counties

1275
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,160
that exercise planning and
zoning control to adopt

1276
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,520
a local law authorizing
accessory dwelling unit

1277
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:47,720
development on land with that
also allows single family

1278
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,680
detached dwelling units.

1279
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:56,000
And additionally, there were
some other things that eight

1280
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,560
ordinance 861 does not
address, but were also

1281
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:05,660
part of the law regarding such
things as impact fees and HOAs,

1282
01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:07,880
and the limits that
homeowners associations

1283
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,880
could go in terms of regulating
accessory dwelling units.

1284
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,380
So what is proposed is with
the planning commission,

1285
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:21,960
feels relatively minimally
necessary to comply

1286
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,000
with the state law.

1287
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,400
We were, by and large, in
compliance with the state law.

1288
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,080
They are proposing
for changes that

1289
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,760
are a combination of either
necessary to match the state law

1290
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,040
requirements, or are suggestions
made by the Maryland Board

1291
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,480
of Realtors that
they thought would

1292
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,280
be appropriate in consideration
of local ordinances

1293
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,120
to implement the law.

1294
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,680
So the first one is in actually
in the treatment of this use

1295
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,700
and proposing to change
it from special exception,

1296
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:02,760
a special exception use to
an outright permitted use.

1297
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,780
I think that was done
for a couple of reasons.

1298
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:11,740
One, it was the recommendation
of the board of Realtors to.

1299
01:02:11,740 --> 01:02:14,340
It was also not
related to this effort,

1300
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:17,480
but it was also a recommendation
of our attainable housing

1301
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,580
task force from last year.

1302
01:02:19,580 --> 01:02:23,120


1303
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,920
And lastly, the
thinking is that this

1304
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:34,060
is a relatively low, impactful
form of affordable housing.

1305
01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:37,240
Then we should probably
facilitate that

1306
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,520
through the easier process.

1307
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,680
And I believe the
feeling is that

1308
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,740
with the accompanying
supplemental standards,

1309
01:02:45,740 --> 01:02:47,620
that there are
appropriate safeguards,

1310
01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:54,560
that a special exception review
is not totally necessary.

1311
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,100
The second proposed
changes is very simple,

1312
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,300
and that's just to terminology.

1313
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:02,400
The Maryland Board
of Realtors suggested

1314
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,160
we strike the term
granny flat, which is

1315
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,680
what we have called this use.

1316
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,020
You also hear referred
to as in-law suite,

1317
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:14,360
sometimes referring to how
they are frequently used.

1318
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,520
But the term that
the state has used

1319
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,500
in the more encompassing term
is accessory dwelling unit.

1320
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:24,920
So we just proposing
that change.

1321
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,200
We're also proposing
I'm sorry, Mr.

1322
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,660
Thomas, can you move your
microphone down a little bit.

1323
01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:29,540
I'm sorry.

1324
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:30,060
Thank you.

1325
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:33,600
That's the third
proposed change is simply

1326
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,300
to adopt this state definition.

1327
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:39,960
For this use accessory
dwelling unit.

1328
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,280
And then lastly, there
are a couple of changes

1329
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,920
to the existing
supplemental standards

1330
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,480
that we have for this use to.

1331
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,160
Fall in line with the
state law specifically.

1332
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Well, one that we've
added on our own volition

1333
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,800
is currently we
require that the owner

1334
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,360
of the accessory
dwelling unit reside

1335
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,040
in the principal residence.

1336
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,220
And we are.

1337
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:14,760
And this was also suggested
by the Board of Realtors

1338
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,760
to expand that slightly,
to allow the owner

1339
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,400
to occupy either the
accessory dwelling

1340
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,600
unit or the principal
building on the site.

1341
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Next is to impose a
requirement that the floor

1342
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:36,440
area of the accessory dwelling
unit be no greater than 75%

1343
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,340
of the gross floor area of
the primary dwelling unit.

1344
01:04:39,340 --> 01:04:40,980
That's actually part
of the state law,

1345
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:45,120
so we definitely need
to make that change.

1346
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,040
Limiting the number of bedrooms
in an accessory dwelling unit

1347
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,240
to no more than two.

1348
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,760
And then lastly, a
provision that it shall have

1349
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,520
direct exterior access that
is separate from the existing

1350
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,320
primary dwelling
with the provision

1351
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,800
that we can administratively
waive this requirement

1352
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,800
if an entrance is
provided that does

1353
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,640
not go into or through
the primary dwelling unit.

1354
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,620
And that's it.

1355
01:05:14,620 --> 01:05:18,260
In some I certainly
entertain any questions.

1356
01:05:18,260 --> 01:05:20,820
I think what we'll do is we'll
allow for public comment,

1357
01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:24,440
and then we'll call you
back up for questions

1358
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,420
in the legislation portion.

1359
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:27,540
That works.

1360
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:28,060
Thank you.

1361
01:05:28,060 --> 01:05:30,800
Thank you, Mr. Thomas,
for everything.

1362
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,680
So this is an
opportunity for residents

1363
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:40,640
to come up and speak on the
issue of ordinance number 861.

1364
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,300
We ask that you do
share your name with us.

1365
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:43,340
You don't have to necessarily.

1366
01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:45,040
You don't have to give us
your address or anything.

1367
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,040
But we would like to know
who we're talking to.

1368
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,600
And we ask that if you're
speaking for yourself

1369
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,540
as an individual, that we keep
it to three minutes in case,

1370
01:05:52,540 --> 01:05:54,820
we have other people and we have
other stuff to cover tonight.

1371
01:05:54,820 --> 01:05:56,580
And then if you're speaking
on behalf of a group,

1372
01:05:56,580 --> 01:06:00,440
try to keep it to five minutes
would be beneficial to us all.

1373
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,420
So again, please come
on up to the mic.

1374
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:06,920
If you do have a comment
on ordinance number

1375
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,860
861 accessory dwelling units.

1376
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:21,840


1377
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,280
Three 7585 Holly Hill lane.

1378
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,560
You have my comments.

1379
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,280
I just urge you, you
don't have to solve

1380
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,040
all this, all these problems,
all these issues tonight.

1381
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,560
You need to get past
the state deadline.

1382
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,760
And then there's
a plan to revise

1383
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,360
the plan, the zoning
regulations to accommodate

1384
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,340
the comprehensive plan.

1385
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:50,000
You can go back and fine
tune and pick up other things

1386
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,800
like the parking
restrictions after you

1387
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,780
check the boxes for this,
the state parking study.

1388
01:06:55,780 --> 01:06:58,920
So I just urge you to
you can still keep it

1389
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,240
real simple tonight and
come back in six months

1390
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,160
and finish the rest
of the business.

1391
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,000
Thank you.

1392
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,240
Thank you.

1393
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,380
And thank you for your email.

1394
01:07:09,380 --> 01:07:22,560


1395
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:23,300
Good evening.

1396
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:26,860
I'm Doug Holley from Janet's
way over in Eastern Clovis.

1397
01:07:26,860 --> 01:07:31,920
I'm presenting
myself, and I guess

1398
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,660
I think a lot of the
things have common sense.

1399
01:07:34,660 --> 01:07:36,520
The thing that's
different is because now

1400
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,340
HOA, which has
certain restrictions,

1401
01:07:39,340 --> 01:07:40,820
are no longer valid.

1402
01:07:40,820 --> 01:07:43,920
It kind of changes
the nature of it.

1403
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,060
So look for some common sense
opportunities to give things.

1404
01:07:50,060 --> 01:07:53,720
So I think the requiring
the direct an exterior

1405
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,590
access, the owner living on the
lot which those things belong.

1406
01:07:58,590 --> 01:08:01,190
I would suggest that
maybe in the beginning,

1407
01:08:01,190 --> 01:08:02,790
all waivers should
come before the board,

1408
01:08:02,790 --> 01:08:05,290
so the board can see the
nature of the waivers

1409
01:08:05,290 --> 01:08:06,850
that are being asked for.

1410
01:08:06,850 --> 01:08:15,170
And then once you get a feel
for it, delegate that to others.

1411
01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:16,830
I think that's the key thing.

1412
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:18,490
Oh, and if there's
a way I don't know

1413
01:08:18,490 --> 01:08:20,109
and I don't want to
steal your thunder,

1414
01:08:20,109 --> 01:08:23,970
but if there's a way to have the
next door neighbor and Eastern

1415
01:08:23,970 --> 01:08:26,850
club East, we require next
door neighbors to sign off

1416
01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:29,877
when somebody's doing changes
so that people are aware,

1417
01:08:29,877 --> 01:08:31,410
and they're not surprised
when all of a sudden

1418
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:33,210
the crew comes in and
just putting on a new roof

1419
01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:34,270
or something like that.

1420
01:08:34,270 --> 01:08:36,730
If there's some way that
a next door neighbor,

1421
01:08:36,730 --> 01:08:37,930
because they're
going to be affected

1422
01:08:37,930 --> 01:08:41,170
by a new building going
up in the lot next door,

1423
01:08:41,170 --> 01:08:42,229
that would be terrific.

1424
01:08:42,229 --> 01:08:43,970
I don't know what the
answer to that is,

1425
01:08:43,970 --> 01:08:46,970
but it would be very helpful.

1426
01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:48,069
And that's the key thing.

1427
01:08:48,069 --> 01:08:50,770
I did want to just
comment on the one thing

1428
01:08:50,770 --> 01:08:56,649
the Eastern club East talk about
scams and stuff was excellent.

1429
01:08:56,649 --> 01:08:58,149
They did a wonderful job.

1430
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:59,890
And it's really good.

1431
01:08:59,890 --> 01:09:01,149
Thank you very
much for listening.

1432
01:09:01,149 --> 01:09:02,109
Thank you, Mr. Ali.

1433
01:09:02,109 --> 01:09:09,290


1434
01:09:09,290 --> 01:09:11,270
And the last one
was a really bad.

1435
01:09:11,270 --> 01:09:14,770


1436
01:09:14,770 --> 01:09:19,270
One yeah, right.

1437
01:09:19,270 --> 01:09:25,130
So what I'm going to do
is have a little taller.

1438
01:09:25,130 --> 01:09:26,930
I'm Lynn Randall, I'm the.

1439
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:30,010
At the moment, I am the chair
of the architectural committee

1440
01:09:30,010 --> 01:09:34,210
at East club East 452 homes.

1441
01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:36,970
One of the concerns
I have that I noticed

1442
01:09:36,970 --> 01:09:39,290
in reading through
the law, when it says

1443
01:09:39,290 --> 01:09:46,170
75% of the size of the home,
that would not be realistic

1444
01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:49,029
or even possible in most
lots in East end club East,

1445
01:09:49,029 --> 01:09:50,970
because they're not big enough.

1446
01:09:50,970 --> 01:09:53,670
What I would suggest
is that square footage.

1447
01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:56,970
Th square footage
application based

1448
01:09:56,970 --> 01:10:06,270
on 1000ft versus the size of the
big in terms of how do I say it.

1449
01:10:06,270 --> 01:10:09,210
I'm talking about the
amount of space they take up

1450
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:16,130
in the property, not 1,000
square foot home if it's two

1451
01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:18,170
stories, but 1,000,
it can't be more

1452
01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:22,870
than 1000ft total on the
ground for the footprint.

1453
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:23,870
Footprint thank you.

1454
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:28,530
Sure that's really all the only
comment I had after just reading

1455
01:10:28,530 --> 01:10:31,210
through the law for the
last couple of days,

1456
01:10:31,210 --> 01:10:36,690
but we will definitely
have to put our covenants

1457
01:10:36,690 --> 01:10:40,650
and our architectural
guidelines in line

1458
01:10:40,650 --> 01:10:45,930
with what the town chooses to do
and that may come that may raise

1459
01:10:45,930 --> 01:10:49,850
some additional concerns in
terms of setbacks and things

1460
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:50,790
like that.

1461
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:53,210
So thank you for
addressing this.

1462
01:10:53,210 --> 01:10:55,330
Thank you.

1463
01:10:55,330 --> 01:10:55,870
I'm good.

1464
01:10:55,870 --> 01:11:09,210


1465
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:09,710
All right.

1466
01:11:09,710 --> 01:11:10,990
Not seeing anybody
else at the moment.

1467
01:11:10,990 --> 01:11:12,890
We are going to keep this open.

1468
01:11:12,890 --> 01:11:15,550
This public hearing open.

1469
01:11:15,550 --> 01:11:18,630
So again, folks at home, if
you have comments or questions,

1470
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:21,210
please feel free
to email the town.

1471
01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:23,650
And of course, you'll have the
opportunity at the next council

1472
01:11:23,650 --> 01:11:29,230
meeting as well to speak on this
particular ordinance Mr. Thomas,

1473
01:11:29,230 --> 01:11:31,450
if you want to come
back on up and.

1474
01:11:31,450 --> 01:11:31,950
Oh I'm sorry.

1475
01:11:31,950 --> 01:11:33,183
No, that's a little
bit further down.

1476
01:11:33,183 --> 01:11:34,290
I'm sorry.

1477
01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:34,910
Jump the gun.

1478
01:11:34,910 --> 01:11:36,090
Never mind.

1479
01:11:36,090 --> 01:11:36,870
Jump the gun.

1480
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:39,650
Sorry moving on to the
legislation portion

1481
01:11:39,650 --> 01:11:42,450
of the evening, we have
resolution number 6226

1482
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:44,330
authorizing the
finance officer to make

1483
01:11:44,330 --> 01:11:47,330
abatements for the
neighborhood service center.

1484
01:11:47,330 --> 01:11:49,770
Just a couple comments here.

1485
01:11:49,770 --> 01:11:52,450
I did want to point
of clarification

1486
01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:56,490
this resolution 6226
with the mayor serving

1487
01:11:56,490 --> 01:12:00,330
as a board of
directors member, we

1488
01:12:00,330 --> 01:12:02,530
wanted to pass along the
resolution to council

1489
01:12:02,530 --> 01:12:06,290
without a consideration
from the mayor

1490
01:12:06,290 --> 01:12:07,790
as supporting or
not supporting it,

1491
01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:10,650
but wanted to make sure that
council knew that this request

1492
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:14,130
came in and for you
all we wanted to pass

1493
01:12:14,130 --> 01:12:16,230
along the vote to you all.

1494
01:12:16,230 --> 01:12:22,290
As for consideration, a
couple items we have not

1495
01:12:22,290 --> 01:12:27,450
and the three bullet points
for six South Street.

1496
01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:32,050
I do not believe we have
provided an abatement in

1497
01:12:32,050 --> 01:12:35,610
the past for that property tax.

1498
01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:38,010
And then the final
item, I believe

1499
01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:42,330
this would be the only
nonprofit or any business

1500
01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:45,130
that would receive an
abatement for solid waste

1501
01:12:45,130 --> 01:12:46,490
or recycling fees.

1502
01:12:46,490 --> 01:12:49,970
We currently do not waive
that for anybody else

1503
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:56,370
except for the Eastern
volunteer fire department.

1504
01:12:56,370 --> 01:12:59,390
So just wanted to give some
context to the request.

1505
01:12:59,390 --> 01:13:02,190
We've given tax abatements
in the past to habitat.

1506
01:13:02,190 --> 01:13:04,810
Habitat for, I think,
construction projects and some

1507
01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:06,890
of the homes when they're under
construction, the second one

1508
01:13:06,890 --> 01:13:08,770
does fall in line
with what we've

1509
01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:12,950
done before with some properties
under renovation or rehab.

1510
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:15,970


1511
01:13:15,970 --> 01:13:18,530
And was there a
specific reason why

1512
01:13:18,530 --> 01:13:21,250
neighborhood service center
is asking for it this year

1513
01:13:21,250 --> 01:13:24,170
versus in past years.

1514
01:13:24,170 --> 01:13:26,810
I did not get any
additional information

1515
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:31,530
minus the letter that's attached
in the packet for the request.

1516
01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:33,650
And with the mayor not
being able to be here,

1517
01:13:33,650 --> 01:13:35,750
there might have been a
secondary conversation,

1518
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:39,450
but it did not come to me
through the executive director.

1519
01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:41,070
They do have a new
executive director,

1520
01:13:41,070 --> 01:13:44,530
so maybe he's just trying
to look at other avenues

1521
01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:47,610
to save money.

1522
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:50,450
Just basically just I don't
want to speak for the director

1523
01:13:50,450 --> 01:13:52,510
of the neighborhood
service center,

1524
01:13:52,510 --> 01:13:55,590
but I do participate with
them on a separate task force.

1525
01:13:55,590 --> 01:14:00,010
And we had a meeting last week
and he reported that they've

1526
01:14:00,010 --> 01:14:02,730
had quite a bit of funding
cut from the state for a lot

1527
01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:07,370
of the work they do to help
support low income and unhoused

1528
01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:11,070
and folks who need assistance.

1529
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:14,490
And so to your
point, MS Vandenberg,

1530
01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:16,650
I expect maybe this
is to help maybe

1531
01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:20,370
offset some of those cutbacks
they're getting so that they can

1532
01:14:20,370 --> 01:14:23,370
continue to provide
funding to support

1533
01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:27,290
their clients and customers,
residents around town,

1534
01:14:27,290 --> 01:14:28,190
but I don't know.

1535
01:14:28,190 --> 01:14:31,490


1536
01:14:31,490 --> 01:14:33,370
Any other comments or
questions at this point

1537
01:14:33,370 --> 01:14:37,670
in time about
resolution number 6226,

1538
01:14:37,670 --> 01:14:41,170
which is eligible for
a vote this evening.

1539
01:14:41,170 --> 01:14:41,830
Just a question.

1540
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:45,510
Will we be taking a vote now or
during the legislative session.

1541
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:48,270
We're on the yeah we're at it
are in the legislative session.

1542
01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:51,950
Yeah I have great
concerns about.

1543
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:55,130


1544
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:58,170
Tax abatements coming
in through the back door

1545
01:14:58,170 --> 01:15:04,190
for any form of basically
for any purpose whatsoever.

1546
01:15:04,190 --> 01:15:07,090
I think that that's something
that we need to examine

1547
01:15:07,090 --> 01:15:13,330
as a policy prior to starting
to give those exemptions one

1548
01:15:13,330 --> 01:15:14,970
place or another.

1549
01:15:14,970 --> 01:15:20,530
Certainly the issue of whether
we should subsidize low income

1550
01:15:20,530 --> 01:15:23,070
housing, the construction
of low income housing,

1551
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:25,370
or the offering of
low income housing

1552
01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:29,090
was not something that there
was universal agreement

1553
01:15:29,090 --> 01:15:33,130
on in the Affordable
housing task force.

1554
01:15:33,130 --> 01:15:37,730
Some of us, including
me, do not think

1555
01:15:37,730 --> 01:15:42,330
that there is a groundswell
of voter support

1556
01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:47,490
for are having other taxpayers
pay for the cost of low income

1557
01:15:47,490 --> 01:15:49,210
housing, which is
essentially what

1558
01:15:49,210 --> 01:15:51,950
a property tax abatement does.

1559
01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:54,450
It means the town is
collecting less money

1560
01:15:54,450 --> 01:15:58,970
from those structures
that are designated

1561
01:15:58,970 --> 01:16:00,490
for low income housing.

1562
01:16:00,490 --> 01:16:03,610
And the only way to
cover our cost of service

1563
01:16:03,610 --> 01:16:06,490
is to have taxes higher
than they would otherwise

1564
01:16:06,490 --> 01:16:09,570
be for the rest of the town.

1565
01:16:09,570 --> 01:16:13,630
Approving one application
for that after another.

1566
01:16:13,630 --> 01:16:16,170
And this is certainly not
the only nonprofit group

1567
01:16:16,170 --> 01:16:24,310
that provides housing for low
income, special needs recovery.

1568
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:28,090
Other things I would
oppose having us

1569
01:16:28,090 --> 01:16:32,750
suddenly start granting
those exemptions Willy nilly,

1570
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:36,730
without having a substantial
discussion of whether it

1571
01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:39,090
is the policy of the
town to subsidize

1572
01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:42,650
low income housing or not.

1573
01:16:42,650 --> 01:16:45,090
Can I make one point
of clarification.

1574
01:16:45,090 --> 01:16:50,130
Before I meant I referred to the
loss in funding at the level.

1575
01:16:50,130 --> 01:16:51,110
I misspoke.

1576
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:52,677
The state level has not reduced.

1577
01:16:52,677 --> 01:16:54,310
It's the federal level of
funding that's reduced.

1578
01:16:54,310 --> 01:17:01,850
But I just while I
have the mic, I. One

1579
01:17:01,850 --> 01:17:04,530
question I seem to
recall last year, there

1580
01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:07,610
was some financial
related decision made

1581
01:17:07,610 --> 01:17:09,150
related to the neighborhood
service center.

1582
01:17:09,150 --> 01:17:11,670
I can't remember if it was
something about providing them,

1583
01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:14,250
helping supplement
their funding or I

1584
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:15,310
can't remember what that was.

1585
01:17:15,310 --> 01:17:16,970
I don't know if I feel
like something came

1586
01:17:16,970 --> 01:17:20,790
from the Affordable housing fund
to make a contribution to them,

1587
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:23,170
and I can't remember the
exact amount that was done.

1588
01:17:23,170 --> 01:17:25,570
They came asking for
a lot, and I think

1589
01:17:25,570 --> 01:17:27,450
and it came from the
Affordable, the discussion was

1590
01:17:27,450 --> 01:17:28,550
from the Affordable housing.

1591
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:29,430
Yes OK.

1592
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:31,830
And then just to the point
by Doctor Montgomery,

1593
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:34,090
I'm not opposed to trying
to get more information

1594
01:17:34,090 --> 01:17:36,970
about these requests,
just given the fact

1595
01:17:36,970 --> 01:17:41,430
that it's the organization.

1596
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:43,590
I think it's
deserving of support.

1597
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:46,650
But I think just to the
point of other organizations

1598
01:17:46,650 --> 01:17:48,170
who might need support
as well and might

1599
01:17:48,170 --> 01:17:49,890
be coming to ask for
abatements, it's something

1600
01:17:49,890 --> 01:17:51,950
that we should maybe
talk more about,

1601
01:17:51,950 --> 01:17:52,990
get more information about.

1602
01:17:52,990 --> 01:17:55,730
I don't but this is
not the first time

1603
01:17:55,730 --> 01:17:57,310
that we've given abatements.

1604
01:17:57,310 --> 01:17:59,190
I mean, we've done
this previously,

1605
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:05,010
so there's already precedent
for giving abatements.

1606
01:18:05,010 --> 01:18:08,430
I hear you when you say you're
not going to subsidize the poor,

1607
01:18:08,430 --> 01:18:12,250
but all of us
subsidize the poor.

1608
01:18:12,250 --> 01:18:20,290
And so I hear you on one
hand, but the relative,

1609
01:18:20,290 --> 01:18:22,570
my understanding is it
would be most difficult

1610
01:18:22,570 --> 01:18:25,690
for some people even
to live in the town

1611
01:18:25,690 --> 01:18:27,190
because they can't afford it.

1612
01:18:27,190 --> 01:18:30,850
I mean, so is the town going
to be inclusive of everybody

1613
01:18:30,850 --> 01:18:34,370
or if you're poor, you
can't get any help.

1614
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:37,810
And I think the neighborhood
housing is doing a good job

1615
01:18:37,810 --> 01:18:41,730
of helping people who
live in the town of Easton

1616
01:18:41,730 --> 01:18:43,650
and abatements have.

1617
01:18:43,650 --> 01:18:45,930
We've already set precedent.

1618
01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:50,410
We've given abatements ever
since I've been on the council.

1619
01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:52,630
And it wasn't just for
neighborhood housing,

1620
01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:54,850
it was for other organizations.

1621
01:18:54,850 --> 01:18:58,590
So I don't know where
we look for information,

1622
01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:00,490
but I know we've
given abatements

1623
01:19:00,490 --> 01:19:02,090
and we have voted on it.

1624
01:19:02,090 --> 01:19:04,830
And I hear all my
colleagues comments,

1625
01:19:04,830 --> 01:19:08,330
but the precedent
has already been set.

1626
01:19:08,330 --> 01:19:11,010
I'd like to know specifically
what those abatements

1627
01:19:11,010 --> 01:19:12,650
were granted for.

1628
01:19:12,650 --> 01:19:16,090
I do know that we have a number
of developers who are saying

1629
01:19:16,090 --> 01:19:18,570
they will put some
low income units

1630
01:19:18,570 --> 01:19:20,810
into what they were building.

1631
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:22,330
I would hate to think
that we're setting

1632
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:27,610
a precedent that builders get
tax abatements from the town,

1633
01:19:27,610 --> 01:19:33,690
because to set a precedent for
giving developers tax abatements

1634
01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:39,410
for properties that they develop
and because of our insistence

1635
01:19:39,410 --> 01:19:46,690
on having some low income
housing or affordable housing

1636
01:19:46,690 --> 01:19:48,490
put in that they
then turn around

1637
01:19:48,490 --> 01:19:50,770
and say, OK, we'll be happy
to do what you are telling

1638
01:19:50,770 --> 01:19:52,610
us to do, but now
you have to put

1639
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:54,390
the money back in our pockets.

1640
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:56,170
I think if we are
going to have a policy

1641
01:19:56,170 --> 01:20:00,490
toward affordable housing, it
needs to look in an integrated

1642
01:20:00,490 --> 01:20:04,970
way about whether we want to
have the developer pay the cost

1643
01:20:04,970 --> 01:20:07,590
or whether we want to spread
it across the taxpayer.

1644
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:13,290
Once again, I see
this as a potentially

1645
01:20:13,290 --> 01:20:16,650
precedent setting
event for housing

1646
01:20:16,650 --> 01:20:18,390
for low income households.

1647
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:20,570
And I think we need to
think very carefully

1648
01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:24,970
about whether we want
to start to make that

1649
01:20:24,970 --> 01:20:29,730
a part of the town's budget.

1650
01:20:29,730 --> 01:20:30,450
All right.

1651
01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:32,650
A couple of things.

1652
01:20:32,650 --> 01:20:35,890
One, in speaking
with what Reverend

1653
01:20:35,890 --> 01:20:36,870
Davis had mentioned about.

1654
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:38,430
We've done tax
abatements in the past.

1655
01:20:38,430 --> 01:20:40,290
The habitat for humanity.

1656
01:20:40,290 --> 01:20:44,050
Those were abatements while
those buildings were being

1657
01:20:44,050 --> 01:20:46,770
built. But once they
were done, and I

1658
01:20:46,770 --> 01:20:49,350
would like it to be checked to
make sure I'm correct on this.

1659
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:51,550
Once they were done
that those abatements,

1660
01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:53,030
we did not renew
those abatements.

1661
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:55,170
It was just for
that year or two.

1662
01:20:55,170 --> 01:20:56,850
While the construction
was sometimes while

1663
01:20:56,850 --> 01:20:59,230
they were holding or in
the construction. right.

1664
01:20:59,230 --> 01:21:00,370
That's typical.

1665
01:21:00,370 --> 01:21:02,930
And just so that everybody
understands what we're talking

1666
01:21:02,930 --> 01:21:07,290
about here is we're talking
about one residents,

1667
01:21:07,290 --> 01:21:12,650
we're talking about undergoing
another piece of property

1668
01:21:12,650 --> 01:21:14,050
for renovation.

1669
01:21:14,050 --> 01:21:15,930
And we're talking
about the waste

1670
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:17,770
and recycling fees
for the Office

1671
01:21:17,770 --> 01:21:19,290
of neighborhood service center.

1672
01:21:19,290 --> 01:21:22,070
So those are the three
items that we're looking on.

1673
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:24,650
But I mean, I could be wrong
based on the conversations

1674
01:21:24,650 --> 01:21:25,190
we're having.

1675
01:21:25,190 --> 01:21:26,610
It sounds like people
want a little bit

1676
01:21:26,610 --> 01:21:31,850
more information as far as
the abatements are concerned.

1677
01:21:31,850 --> 01:21:33,530
And we can provide
additional information

1678
01:21:33,530 --> 01:21:35,950
on previous decisions
that we've made.

1679
01:21:35,950 --> 01:21:39,730
We can also withdraw this or
remove it or not have a vote

1680
01:21:39,730 --> 01:21:42,450
and come with something
that's more overarching.

1681
01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:45,510
That wouldn't specifically
be to a singular property.

1682
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:46,890
Again, I do think
this is singular

1683
01:21:46,890 --> 01:21:51,550
in nature for my own personal
comments, and we need to.

1684
01:21:51,550 --> 01:21:54,370
It's probably better to
think about it holistically

1685
01:21:54,370 --> 01:21:57,970
on how we would want to
address some of these items

1686
01:21:57,970 --> 01:22:02,570
before I am evaluating each
individual letter that comes

1687
01:22:02,570 --> 01:22:05,930
to me and I give to
you for consideration,

1688
01:22:05,930 --> 01:22:07,590
I do want to make
one additional point.

1689
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:09,730
I said earlier, the only
person who doesn't pay

1690
01:22:09,730 --> 01:22:11,510
is East of volunteer
fire department.

1691
01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:14,790
Eastern utilities also does
not pay for trash services.

1692
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:15,790
There's only two.

1693
01:22:15,790 --> 01:22:19,930


1694
01:22:19,930 --> 01:22:22,810
Any other comments, questions.

1695
01:22:22,810 --> 01:22:27,810
Thoughts at this point
in time, MS Curry,

1696
01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:33,250
I feel obligated to say that
I have to disagree with Doctor

1697
01:22:33,250 --> 01:22:38,210
Montgomery's initial statement
that this was a request

1698
01:22:38,210 --> 01:22:40,370
coming through the back door.

1699
01:22:40,370 --> 01:22:43,450
And I take exception to that.

1700
01:22:43,450 --> 01:22:46,590
This letter came
to us the same way.

1701
01:22:46,590 --> 01:22:48,290
All the other letters have come.

1702
01:22:48,290 --> 01:22:55,150
And I've known Andy Hollis
for almost 40 years,

1703
01:22:55,150 --> 01:22:57,930
and he's an upstanding,
good man who's

1704
01:22:57,930 --> 01:23:00,570
trying to help his community.

1705
01:23:00,570 --> 01:23:04,530
And I don't disagree with
the fact that we need

1706
01:23:04,530 --> 01:23:12,970
to take a holistic approach
in looking at how if we

1707
01:23:12,970 --> 01:23:17,570
and can we support affordable
housing in a meaningful way

1708
01:23:17,570 --> 01:23:19,190
in this town.

1709
01:23:19,190 --> 01:23:22,290


1710
01:23:22,290 --> 01:23:25,090
So let's do it.

1711
01:23:25,090 --> 01:23:26,090
Thank you.

1712
01:23:26,090 --> 01:23:29,010
So it sounds like Mr. Rankin.

1713
01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:33,660
I mean, just to piggyback on MS
Curry, I agree with her comments

1714
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:37,300
and in spite of wanting to
understand more about this

1715
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:40,700
and wanting to consider
this holistically,

1716
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:43,820
I have learned in recent months
how important the neighborhood

1717
01:23:43,820 --> 01:23:45,380
service center is
to our community

1718
01:23:45,380 --> 01:23:48,040
and to the people of our
community who need this support.

1719
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:53,700
And so I believe they're
a worthy organization

1720
01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:56,220
that does deserve support.

1721
01:23:56,220 --> 01:23:58,780
But I also agree that this
needs a little bit more time

1722
01:23:58,780 --> 01:24:01,940
to consider and
discuss and understand

1723
01:24:01,940 --> 01:24:05,140
better some of the precedents
that have come before.

1724
01:24:05,140 --> 01:24:07,300
It has come in as a one
off thing, which I think

1725
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:11,200
is important to evaluate rather
than just blanket waving things.

1726
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,980
So I think everything is case
by case is important right now.

1727
01:24:15,980 --> 01:24:19,240
And so I just wanted to make
those additional comments.

1728
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:20,340
So it sounds like
we're not going

1729
01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:25,180
to have a motion on
resolution 6226 this evening.

1730
01:24:25,180 --> 01:24:29,780
OK my thing is why have
affordable housing task force.

1731
01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:32,220
I mean, are we just
perpetrating a fraud.

1732
01:24:32,220 --> 01:24:34,660
We're saying that we
really want to help out

1733
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:36,660
people who are less fortunate.

1734
01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:38,700
Is that the real reality.

1735
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,540
I mean, we've been kicking this
can down the road a long time.

1736
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:46,220
We've come up with
all kinds of answers

1737
01:24:46,220 --> 01:24:49,700
that affordable housing,
attainable housing,

1738
01:24:49,700 --> 01:24:50,800
things of that nature.

1739
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,420
And that housing
hasn't helped anyone.

1740
01:24:53,420 --> 01:24:56,180
If we really want to fix the
affordable housing problem

1741
01:24:56,180 --> 01:24:59,200
in the town, let the town
go buy a piece of land,

1742
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,180
and then we build it and
then we can deal with it.

1743
01:25:03,180 --> 01:25:06,220
Or we as an organization
say that we're going to give

1744
01:25:06,220 --> 01:25:08,660
x amount of dollars to whoever.

1745
01:25:08,660 --> 01:25:11,180
And as we write
some kind of policy

1746
01:25:11,180 --> 01:25:13,280
that we don't get
ourselves in trouble,

1747
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,100
that we're inclusive and
fair across the board.

1748
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:21,100
I agree with Councilwoman
Curry, the neighborhood housing

1749
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:25,820
services help a lot of
people that need help,

1750
01:25:25,820 --> 01:25:27,660
that need that
helping hand to get

1751
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:29,780
them to where they need to be.

1752
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:32,080
Some people struggle just
for a short period of time,

1753
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,900
but they just need that boost
to get them to the point

1754
01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:39,920
where they're taxpaying citizens
giving back to our community.

1755
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,860
I just don't want to
overlook that part

1756
01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:49,740
as we look for some policies
that we can all live by.

1757
01:25:49,740 --> 01:25:56,260
So any other comments.

1758
01:25:56,260 --> 01:25:58,000
All right.

1759
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,020


1760
01:26:01,020 --> 01:26:02,100
All right.

1761
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:05,340
Moving on to
ordinance number 861,

1762
01:26:05,340 --> 01:26:08,000
an ordinance of the town of
Easton amending chapter 28,

1763
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,460
zoning of the town code
Mr. Thomas, welcome back.

1764
01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:12,900
Thank you.

1765
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:13,400
Thank you.

1766
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,420


1767
01:26:16,420 --> 01:26:19,120
This will be an opportunity for
anybody here on the council.

1768
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,140
Has any questions Mr.
Thomas, regarding ADUs.

1769
01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:25,660
So I'm not.

1770
01:26:25,660 --> 01:26:31,100
I'm concerned about why it's
not a special exception.

1771
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:33,740
I have quite I have
concerns about that.

1772
01:26:33,740 --> 01:26:36,380
I think that the
individuals in our community

1773
01:26:36,380 --> 01:26:38,940
have a right to have a voice.

1774
01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:44,100
If they wake up to somebody
that has built something 75%

1775
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,180
the capacity of their house.

1776
01:26:46,180 --> 01:26:49,540
I think it's fair and
prudent that individuals

1777
01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:53,060
in the community have a
say, just that they come

1778
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:55,620
and it's a check off Mark.

1779
01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:57,380
I don't think that's acceptable.

1780
01:26:57,380 --> 01:27:00,140
I think our community
deserves to have

1781
01:27:00,140 --> 01:27:02,280
a voice when it comes to this.

1782
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,940
And then secondly, you
said something about

1783
01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:06,320
and I don't get me wrong.

1784
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:07,940
Adu OK.

1785
01:27:07,940 --> 01:27:08,680
Maryland law.

1786
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,180
I'm not against any of that.

1787
01:27:10,180 --> 01:27:16,860
But when it comes to the town,
we can put in our own criterias.

1788
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:19,640
And special exception
is one of them,

1789
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,500
because we want to look
at what you're doing

1790
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:27,580
and put an extra eye on
it, not just let it happen.

1791
01:27:27,580 --> 01:27:29,040
I'm quite concerned about that.

1792
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,580
But then you said
something about how

1793
01:27:30,580 --> 01:27:33,500
this helps affordable
housing or something

1794
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:35,140
with affordable housing.

1795
01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:39,140
Say that back to me again so I
can get some clarity on that.

1796
01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:45,140
So I think part of the rationale
for suggesting it be an outright

1797
01:27:45,140 --> 01:27:48,380
permitted use, rather than a
special exception, is obviously

1798
01:27:48,380 --> 01:27:51,580
that's an easier process.

1799
01:27:51,580 --> 01:27:56,720
Special exception is not a
overly burdensome process,

1800
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,900
but it is an additional
process, including

1801
01:27:59,900 --> 01:28:05,500
more time and an application
fee associated with it.

1802
01:28:05,500 --> 01:28:13,180
So if this is a relatively
low bar to affordable housing,

1803
01:28:13,180 --> 01:28:19,180
the thought was, well,
let's remove any.

1804
01:28:19,180 --> 01:28:22,940
Potential barriers
to that happening.

1805
01:28:22,940 --> 01:28:26,820
Yeah I just I'm not
quite sure I can

1806
01:28:26,820 --> 01:28:29,740
buy into that
affordable housing piece

1807
01:28:29,740 --> 01:28:33,180
just because it makes
it easier to flow.

1808
01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:34,980
We haven't even solved
the affordable housing

1809
01:28:34,980 --> 01:28:36,700
piece as of now.

1810
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:39,620
And now this is going to
be some kind of lead way

1811
01:28:39,620 --> 01:28:40,880
for affordable housing.

1812
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,280
What we need to do is stop
using affordable housing.

1813
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,860
If we're really not going
to really anchor into what

1814
01:28:45,860 --> 01:28:47,200
affordable housing is.

1815
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,540
I'm done talking.

1816
01:28:48,540 --> 01:28:53,460
But the special exception it has
to be in there because I think

1817
01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:56,900
the citizens in our community
have a right to know what's

1818
01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:58,480
going on in their communities.

1819
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:03,420
It would be horrible that you
wake up one day and then bam,

1820
01:29:03,420 --> 01:29:04,680
that could be catastrophic.

1821
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,880
So in my opinion,
that's where I'm at.

1822
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:08,440
I'm done.

1823
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:10,460
Doctor Montgomery, I
agree with every word

1824
01:29:10,460 --> 01:29:14,900
my colleague Reverend Davis has
said up to this at this point.

1825
01:29:14,900 --> 01:29:20,460
In addition, I see nothing in
any of these regulations that

1826
01:29:20,460 --> 01:29:24,460
suggest that these ADUs would
be offered at anything except

1827
01:29:24,460 --> 01:29:32,020
market rates, and 75%
of a $500,000 house

1828
01:29:32,020 --> 01:29:35,880
is a 350,000 $400,000 house.

1829
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:40,380
I see nothing in this that gives
us any expectation that it would

1830
01:29:40,380 --> 01:29:45,820
be an affordable unit, and
taking away a $100 fee and $500

1831
01:29:45,820 --> 01:29:47,460
in legal expenses
is going to make

1832
01:29:47,460 --> 01:29:51,180
the difference between
affordable and not affordable.

1833
01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:54,120
Now, I've many other things
I'd like to bring up,

1834
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,020
but I just wanted to step
in at this point to support

1835
01:29:57,020 --> 01:30:00,700
what Reverend Davis said.

1836
01:30:00,700 --> 01:30:01,820
Any other comments.

1837
01:30:01,820 --> 01:30:04,700
I offer my take on it.

1838
01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:07,060
I don't necessarily
disagree with what

1839
01:30:07,060 --> 01:30:08,400
my colleagues have said so far.

1840
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:16,500
But from a conceptual,
affordable housing perspective,

1841
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:21,027
there's no one thing that's
going to solve the crisis.

1842
01:30:21,027 --> 01:30:21,760
There's not one thing.

1843
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,500
There's not one single
thing we can do to just all

1844
01:30:23,500 --> 01:30:25,700
of a sudden address the issue.

1845
01:30:25,700 --> 01:30:30,020
ADUs were in the attainable
housing task force report

1846
01:30:30,020 --> 01:30:34,420
as one of a number of
options and proposals

1847
01:30:34,420 --> 01:30:38,540
to try and address
this in different ways.

1848
01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:41,420
My view of an ADU in
this context, and I

1849
01:30:41,420 --> 01:30:44,020
know some folks I've
talked to some folks who

1850
01:30:44,020 --> 01:30:46,860
are interested in this concept.

1851
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:52,480
We have aging people
living in their houses,

1852
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:56,780
and they have property that they
might want to build a smaller

1853
01:30:56,780 --> 01:30:58,980
dwelling unit so they
can move into that

1854
01:30:58,980 --> 01:31:06,020
and have their child take over
their house and use that land

1855
01:31:06,020 --> 01:31:08,480
so that they're
making more use of it.

1856
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:11,320
And whether or not that
unit is affordable,

1857
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,180
I think in that
case, is addressing

1858
01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:16,680
another aspect of our housing
challenge that we have here.

1859
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,340
And so you're potentially
creating opportunities

1860
01:31:19,340 --> 01:31:24,600
to folks to be more flexible and
make more use of their property.

1861
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,620
I'm also a little concerned.

1862
01:31:26,620 --> 01:31:28,540
I think we need to talk more
about the special exception

1863
01:31:28,540 --> 01:31:29,080
process.

1864
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,460
But if you buy a property,
it's your expectation

1865
01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:34,940
that you can do some
things with your property

1866
01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:37,660
and to be told that you
can't or that you have

1867
01:31:37,660 --> 01:31:39,980
to go through some
special exception

1868
01:31:39,980 --> 01:31:43,300
to build something
on your property

1869
01:31:43,300 --> 01:31:46,940
could devalue one's view of
or it could lessen their view

1870
01:31:46,940 --> 01:31:48,320
of the value of their property.

1871
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:49,840
So I need to think
more about that.

1872
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,860
But just something
that came to my mind

1873
01:31:51,860 --> 01:31:57,360
with that, so I hear what
you all are saying about it,

1874
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,180
and I hear your
concerns, and I do

1875
01:31:59,180 --> 01:32:01,300
want the community to be
aware of what's going on

1876
01:32:01,300 --> 01:32:03,840
and be comfortable about what's
going on in their neighborhoods.

1877
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:08,420
But my recollection
and my view of ADUs

1878
01:32:08,420 --> 01:32:11,500
is it's one tool
in a toolbox to try

1879
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:14,600
and address some of the housing
challenges we have in town.

1880
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:20,300
And so I just take a little
bit different view on it.

1881
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:25,180
I will echo that because
and I'll bring it home.

1882
01:32:25,180 --> 01:32:28,420
I would love to put
an on my property

1883
01:32:28,420 --> 01:32:31,900
that I could live in, and
bring my nephew and his family

1884
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:35,020
back to Easton,
where he grew up.

1885
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:39,620
He's been in the Navy
for almost 20 years now.

1886
01:32:39,620 --> 01:32:41,060
They want to come home
with their children

1887
01:32:41,060 --> 01:32:42,620
and raise their children here.

1888
01:32:42,620 --> 01:32:45,140
They can't afford to
buy a house in Easton.

1889
01:32:45,140 --> 01:32:48,220
But if I give them my house
and I build a little ADU

1890
01:32:48,220 --> 01:32:50,260
in my backyard,
then they can come

1891
01:32:50,260 --> 01:32:54,140
and I can play with my great
nieces and nephews all day long.

1892
01:32:54,140 --> 01:32:55,860
I think that's kind of cool.

1893
01:32:55,860 --> 01:32:58,780
I do not think I should be
able to do that without letting

1894
01:32:58,780 --> 01:33:00,460
my neighbors know.

1895
01:33:00,460 --> 01:33:02,880
How do we accomplish that.

1896
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,780
Because I would never want
to put I don't care if it's

1897
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:08,140
two bedroom little
bungalow I'm putting on

1898
01:33:08,140 --> 01:33:10,420
and I got plenty of property.

1899
01:33:10,420 --> 01:33:13,280
I wouldn't do that to my
neighbors, I really wouldn't.

1900
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:14,640
I've lived there
almost 40 years,

1901
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,320
so there's no way
I'm going to do that.

1902
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,320
But that's an example.

1903
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:25,020
That's just and I think that's
what this whole concept is all

1904
01:33:25,020 --> 01:33:26,020
about.

1905
01:33:26,020 --> 01:33:29,540
It is an affordable I don't need
a four bedroom, three bath house

1906
01:33:29,540 --> 01:33:30,420
anymore.

1907
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:31,900
I need a little bungalow.

1908
01:33:31,900 --> 01:33:33,680
But I would love to
stay in my neighborhood.

1909
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:34,920
So how cool is that.

1910
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,220
It's a win-win.

1911
01:33:36,220 --> 01:33:38,560
So that's just my take on it.

1912
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,820
But again, should not be allowed
to do that without talking

1913
01:33:41,820 --> 01:33:43,660
to my neighbors.

1914
01:33:43,660 --> 01:33:46,000
Yeah Doctor Montgomery,
anything else.

1915
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,200
Yes several things.

1916
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,020
The first one is that I
think many of my concerns

1917
01:33:50,020 --> 01:33:51,660
would be taken
away at this point

1918
01:33:51,660 --> 01:33:55,180
if we simply kept it
as a special exception.

1919
01:33:55,180 --> 01:34:00,180
Because I think the
use that MS Curry wants

1920
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:02,060
to make of it and
your willingness

1921
01:34:02,060 --> 01:34:03,620
to consult with
your neighbors, it's

1922
01:34:03,620 --> 01:34:05,660
exactly what a special
exception is there

1923
01:34:05,660 --> 01:34:11,840
for, and good reasons that the
neighbors and others can accept.

1924
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,260
I think we'll always
work in that process.

1925
01:34:15,260 --> 01:34:18,980
As far as this being something
in our toolbox for dealing with

1926
01:34:18,980 --> 01:34:21,580
affordable housing, I
think that's saying,

1927
01:34:21,580 --> 01:34:24,100
I'm going to go out
and buy a screwdriver

1928
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:28,580
so that I can fix my entire
$15,000 air conditioning system.

1929
01:34:28,580 --> 01:34:31,460
It's just so trivial
that I do not

1930
01:34:31,460 --> 01:34:34,860
see it without and without
direction that I don't see

1931
01:34:34,860 --> 01:34:36,880
it making a great difference.

1932
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,460
Certainly not any difference.

1933
01:34:38,460 --> 01:34:40,620
If we are debating
the difference

1934
01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:44,380
between a special
exception and permission.

1935
01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:46,060
I'd like to change
the subject a bit

1936
01:34:46,060 --> 01:34:51,380
though, because it disturbs
me that we are reacting here

1937
01:34:51,380 --> 01:34:55,220
to both what the
requirements of the state are

1938
01:34:55,220 --> 01:34:58,660
and what some recommendations
of Realtors are.

1939
01:34:58,660 --> 01:35:02,100
So I'd like to know exactly
what wording in here

1940
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:04,500
is mandatory for
the state, and what

1941
01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:08,640
wording is trying to go along
with what the realtors want, 31.

1942
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,280
Because I would reject, I would.

1943
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,240
We have to accept.

1944
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,300
First we need to ask
ourselves, why would

1945
01:35:13,300 --> 01:35:15,580
we want to do the latter.

1946
01:35:15,580 --> 01:35:22,540
I represent a Ward which
has three very large

1947
01:35:22,540 --> 01:35:26,180
and one moderate sized
homeowners association.

1948
01:35:26,180 --> 01:35:29,820
None of them want to see
ADUs within their homeowners

1949
01:35:29,820 --> 01:35:31,080
association.

1950
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,380
They want to be able to retain
some vestige of their ability

1951
01:35:35,380 --> 01:35:40,420
to define the community the way
it was originally conceived.

1952
01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:43,280
And so I'm always going
to advocate for that.

1953
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,380
And therefore, I want to know
what is the absolute minimum

1954
01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:48,240
the state requires us to do.

1955
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,100
Because I think that's
what I am obligated

1956
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,180
to argue for my constituents.

1957
01:35:53,180 --> 01:35:55,440
And just a final
conceptual point.

1958
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:58,180
I think we always have
to challenge the notion

1959
01:35:58,180 --> 01:35:59,860
if I have property
rights, I should

1960
01:35:59,860 --> 01:36:01,860
be able to do anything I want.

1961
01:36:01,860 --> 01:36:04,260
That is absolutely false.

1962
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:07,740
The whole idea of
zoning is to tell

1963
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:11,780
people what it is that they can
and cannot do on their property.

1964
01:36:11,780 --> 01:36:19,380
As a matter of how it is
going to conform to the needs

1965
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:21,540
of the rest of the community.

1966
01:36:21,540 --> 01:36:23,160
My property rights.

1967
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,560
My rights end where yours start.

1968
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,320
And that is true of everything.

1969
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,020
And the notion that I get
irritated if I have to go

1970
01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:35,460
get a permit for a shed, but I
understand the reason for it.

1971
01:36:35,460 --> 01:36:40,620
I certainly do not think that
my property rights give me

1972
01:36:40,620 --> 01:36:43,540
the right to develop, to
add additional housing

1973
01:36:43,540 --> 01:36:45,400
on my property.

1974
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:51,200
That's what the developers
would like us to believe,

1975
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,780
so that they can go out
and sell their property

1976
01:36:53,780 --> 01:36:56,060
at the maximum amount
they can get for it

1977
01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:59,320
and build the maximum
amount of housing on it.

1978
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,840
And that's not the kind
of town I want to see.

1979
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,340
And that's not the
kind of development

1980
01:37:04,340 --> 01:37:07,880
I want to see Mr. Thomas.

1981
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,860
It sounds like from
the conversation

1982
01:37:09,860 --> 01:37:11,880
this evening that I think
there's some people.

1983
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,620
I think there's definitely
a consensus on the idea

1984
01:37:15,620 --> 01:37:17,500
of a special exception.

1985
01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:20,740
But also, if you could.

1986
01:37:20,740 --> 01:37:24,580
We can look up.

1987
01:37:24,580 --> 01:37:25,080
What is it.

1988
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,940
Housing bill.

1989
01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:28,180
I wrote it down.

1990
01:37:28,180 --> 01:37:31,740
1466 I know we
could look that up.

1991
01:37:31,740 --> 01:37:33,420
But if you could
share with us, I

1992
01:37:33,420 --> 01:37:35,900
think sounds like
from a couple people

1993
01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:40,340
what the requirements actually
are from housing bill 1466

1994
01:37:40,340 --> 01:37:40,880
to see that.

1995
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,820
Yeah, and that doesn't have
to wait till the next meeting.

1996
01:37:44,820 --> 01:37:46,480
No, I can do that.

1997
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:47,613
Yeah OK.

1998
01:37:47,613 --> 01:37:49,380
Yeah I think the important
point about the homeowners

1999
01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:52,800
association, I think
that in the bill or not.

2000
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:53,900
If that's not in
the bill, then I

2001
01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:55,180
think that's something
that we should

2002
01:37:55,180 --> 01:37:57,080
tell the homeowner in the bill.

2003
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,040
If I remember, I'm sorry.

2004
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,720
Does address the homeowners
association in their addresses.

2005
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,500
The size addresses
a couple things.

2006
01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:05,790
Yeah, it does say in there
that what was the term

2007
01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:08,950
miss Vandenberg we were using
before when it came to there

2008
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:11,790
was some kind of unreasonable
limitation, unreasonable

2009
01:38:11,790 --> 01:38:12,490
limitations.

2010
01:38:12,490 --> 01:38:13,250
That's what it was.

2011
01:38:13,250 --> 01:38:15,470
There's also Maryland
Department of planning

2012
01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:17,950
has a frequently asked
question regarding ADUs

2013
01:38:17,950 --> 01:38:19,790
that I think is very helpful.

2014
01:38:19,790 --> 01:38:22,610
So we can send that a link
along with the explanation.

2015
01:38:22,610 --> 01:38:23,830
Yeah, that would be great.

2016
01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:25,250
What's the housing bill number.

2017
01:38:25,250 --> 01:38:29,770
State 1414 1414 1614 6666.

2018
01:38:29,770 --> 01:38:39,910
Thank you Mr. Thomas, thank
you, as always, for your work.

2019
01:38:39,910 --> 01:38:41,170
And for putting up with us.

2020
01:38:41,170 --> 01:38:43,710
Thank you.

2021
01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:44,590
My pleasure.

2022
01:38:44,590 --> 01:38:46,970
And obviously, again,
we're keeping this open.

2023
01:38:46,970 --> 01:38:48,930
So folks at home you want to.

2024
01:38:48,930 --> 01:38:52,030


2025
01:38:52,030 --> 01:38:54,730
Contact the town and share
your thoughts and concerns.

2026
01:38:54,730 --> 01:38:55,890
You may do that as well.

2027
01:38:55,890 --> 01:38:58,150
And of course, we'll have it
open for the next meeting.

2028
01:38:58,150 --> 01:38:59,470
Yeah thank you to
the folks that have

2029
01:38:59,470 --> 01:39:01,830
already reached out with some.

2030
01:39:01,830 --> 01:39:04,350
Absolutely yes.

2031
01:39:04,350 --> 01:39:05,510
All right.

2032
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:07,537
Moving on to
ordinance number 862,

2033
01:39:07,537 --> 01:39:08,670
an ordinance of
the town of Easton

2034
01:39:08,670 --> 01:39:11,770
granting the application of
Lowe's home centers, LLC,

2035
01:39:11,770 --> 01:39:15,190
formerly Lowe's home centers,
incorporated, for a planned unit

2036
01:39:15,190 --> 01:39:18,030
development Amendment
under the provisions

2037
01:39:18,030 --> 01:39:20,750
of the Easton zoning ordinance.

2038
01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:21,910
Good evening.

2039
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:22,510
Good evening.

2040
01:39:22,510 --> 01:39:26,030
My name is Todd Bartok, senior
construction manager for Lowe's

2041
01:39:26,030 --> 01:39:30,630
home centers, LLC,
Mooresville, North Carolina,

2042
01:39:30,630 --> 01:39:32,910
and I'm here to
seek the approval

2043
01:39:32,910 --> 01:39:41,470
for the storage of outdoor
sales and display of trailers

2044
01:39:41,470 --> 01:39:45,230
and sheds on that
portion just outside

2045
01:39:45,230 --> 01:39:48,270
what we call the lumber yard.

2046
01:39:48,270 --> 01:39:49,050
Thank you very much.

2047
01:39:49,050 --> 01:39:52,670
First of all, for
coming this evening.

2048
01:39:52,670 --> 01:39:55,950
We appreciate you being here.

2049
01:39:55,950 --> 01:39:58,030
Normally when we had an
Amendment change or anything

2050
01:39:58,030 --> 01:39:59,470
like that, we usually
have somebody come in

2051
01:39:59,470 --> 01:40:01,130
and there wasn't anybody
here last meeting.

2052
01:40:01,130 --> 01:40:03,010
So thank you for
making the trip.

2053
01:40:03,010 --> 01:40:05,050
That was my fault. No,
no, no I apologize.

2054
01:40:05,050 --> 01:40:08,170
I travel all over the
US and just missed it.

2055
01:40:08,170 --> 01:40:08,810
No worries.

2056
01:40:08,810 --> 01:40:12,910
And thank you very much for
making the time to be here.

2057
01:40:12,910 --> 01:40:15,210
Does anybody I have a
couple of questions,

2058
01:40:15,210 --> 01:40:17,630
and I'm not sure if they might
be able to be answered or not

2059
01:40:17,630 --> 01:40:20,190
this evening, but does anybody
have any questions or comments

2060
01:40:20,190 --> 01:40:24,750
about ordinance number 862?

2061
01:40:24,750 --> 01:40:27,510
And if you remember,
I'm not sure

2062
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:29,430
if everybody was here for that.

2063
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:34,823
Yeah Mr. is there any way you
can put that up on the screen.

2064
01:40:34,823 --> 01:40:36,190
Because we didn't have
it because there's

2065
01:40:36,190 --> 01:40:38,870
a lot of the actual ordinance.

2066
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:42,190
Well, the maps, the
map and the layout.

2067
01:40:42,190 --> 01:40:45,630
Yeah I lose.

2068
01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:47,950
Give me one second.

2069
01:40:47,950 --> 01:40:50,630
Who gave us that
presentation, Mr. mayor.

2070
01:40:50,630 --> 01:40:52,510
There All right.

2071
01:40:52,510 --> 01:40:53,010
Thank you.

2072
01:40:53,010 --> 01:40:54,790
Joe I know it was you.

2073
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:55,450
Appreciate that.

2074
01:40:55,450 --> 01:40:58,070
Joe could I ask just a
quick factual question

2075
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:59,170
while we're putting that up.

2076
01:40:59,170 --> 01:41:01,910
Absolutely will,
what you're doing now

2077
01:41:01,910 --> 01:41:06,590
change the function of any of
the rest of the buildings there.

2078
01:41:06,590 --> 01:41:09,810
The garden center will stay
where the garden center is.

2079
01:41:09,810 --> 01:41:13,910
The does not affect
anything, any

2080
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:15,930
of the existing improvements.

2081
01:41:15,930 --> 01:41:24,750
All right.

2082
01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:27,470
So, Joe, one of the
questions that I had had

2083
01:41:27,470 --> 01:41:34,710
was about the screen between
the shop, the end of where

2084
01:41:34,710 --> 01:41:36,010
the Lowe's building is.

2085
01:41:36,010 --> 01:41:42,590
And then over to the Weiss,
formerly the Food Lion,

2086
01:41:42,590 --> 01:41:43,770
used to be a Food Lion.

2087
01:41:43,770 --> 01:41:45,710
Now it's Weiss.

2088
01:41:45,710 --> 01:41:47,550
And that's one of the.

2089
01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:50,370
So for those of you that
were not here because.

2090
01:41:50,370 --> 01:41:51,010
Were you here.

2091
01:41:51,010 --> 01:41:51,890
No, you weren't here.

2092
01:41:51,890 --> 01:41:55,830
So I'd like our other my
fellow council members

2093
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:59,830
to see what Lowe's
is proposing as far

2094
01:41:59,830 --> 01:42:04,510
as the screen screening goes.

2095
01:42:04,510 --> 01:42:06,650
Well, do we have that.

2096
01:42:06,650 --> 01:42:08,590
Do we have that.

2097
01:42:08,590 --> 01:42:12,590
It might be on the laptop.

2098
01:42:12,590 --> 01:42:15,310
Sorry, we're just
throwing this at you

2099
01:42:15,310 --> 01:42:19,470
and I'll do a brief description.

2100
01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:20,710
There it is.

2101
01:42:20,710 --> 01:42:21,410
There we go.

2102
01:42:21,410 --> 01:42:26,670


2103
01:42:26,670 --> 01:42:27,410
That's better.

2104
01:42:27,410 --> 01:42:31,070


2105
01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:32,290
Does that work for everybody.

2106
01:42:32,290 --> 01:42:34,150
Perfect so that's the current.

2107
01:42:34,150 --> 01:42:35,590
That's the current view.

2108
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:39,670
Yeah, but this is rendering.

2109
01:42:39,670 --> 01:42:40,830
Yeah those are.

2110
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:42,250
These are not there right now.

2111
01:42:42,250 --> 01:42:44,110
And then this is the other.

2112
01:42:44,110 --> 01:42:46,830
These are the proposed
right next to it.

2113
01:42:46,830 --> 01:42:49,690
So they would be on
both sides of the area.

2114
01:42:49,690 --> 01:42:54,190
No just the one just
the two different views.

2115
01:42:54,190 --> 01:42:56,550
Yeah, two different
views you're getting.

2116
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:58,610
This is not our property.

2117
01:42:58,610 --> 01:43:00,950
So we can't really
put anything on there.

2118
01:43:00,950 --> 01:43:06,490
But that area there, we
would plan to screen.

2119
01:43:06,490 --> 01:43:09,530
We're looking toward the
Lowe's building at this point.

2120
01:43:09,530 --> 01:43:10,330
Yes OK.

2121
01:43:10,330 --> 01:43:12,390
322 OK.

2122
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:15,910
So we're screening it
along the public well,

2123
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:17,870
semi-public road,
which is the road

2124
01:43:17,870 --> 01:43:21,550
that goes into Kroger circle.

2125
01:43:21,550 --> 01:43:22,770
Correct OK.

2126
01:43:22,770 --> 01:43:25,990


2127
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:28,630
In this view is if
you're at Lowe's looking

2128
01:43:28,630 --> 01:43:33,150
back toward right Parkway.

2129
01:43:33,150 --> 01:43:35,830
And right now, you seem to
have almost permanently had

2130
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:38,370
a large trailer sitting there.

2131
01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:40,950


2132
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:43,430
That trailer moves
around the site.

2133
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:45,230
It's a preload site.

2134
01:43:45,230 --> 01:43:48,770
So when someone comes in
and orders a large load,

2135
01:43:48,770 --> 01:43:50,650
we'll load it on that and
then they'll haul it off.

2136
01:43:50,650 --> 01:43:54,150
No, I meant the 50 foot 1.

2137
01:43:54,150 --> 01:43:57,630
That's parked there
frequently, right behind

2138
01:43:57,630 --> 01:43:59,150
where those trees will be.

2139
01:43:59,150 --> 01:44:00,690
Are you speaking
of this one here.

2140
01:44:00,690 --> 01:44:02,610
The trailer that's been there.

2141
01:44:02,610 --> 01:44:05,003
I don't see anything
as big as what I know.

2142
01:44:05,003 --> 01:44:05,570
It's pretty good.

2143
01:44:05,570 --> 01:44:07,570
I don't have anything
out there permanently.

2144
01:44:07,570 --> 01:44:12,130
Yeah, I know it has wheels, but
no, I mean, not in that area.

2145
01:44:12,130 --> 01:44:16,270
That area there in front
of the lumber yard.

2146
01:44:16,270 --> 01:44:18,270
We don't have anything
out there permanently

2147
01:44:18,270 --> 01:44:22,950
that there that's shown there.

2148
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:24,410
Potentially I don't
believe it's there.

2149
01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:25,910
Google Maps.

2150
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:29,370
Yeah I don't have a better.

2151
01:44:29,370 --> 01:44:33,230
So it moves around the site
depending on parking available.

2152
01:44:33,230 --> 01:44:36,870
OK talking about.

2153
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:41,910
Tractors any other
questions at this point.

2154
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:43,270
And again, since
we had two people

2155
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:44,883
who weren't here last time.

2156
01:44:44,883 --> 01:44:46,750
Yeah I apologize because I've
also been trying to figure

2157
01:44:46,750 --> 01:44:47,730
this out from the renderings.

2158
01:44:47,730 --> 01:44:51,630
So the plannings would provide
a screen between where you're

2159
01:44:51,630 --> 01:44:55,430
looking to do this and then
those parking spots there you'd

2160
01:44:55,430 --> 01:45:00,010
be displaying right in here
in those parking spaces,

2161
01:45:00,010 --> 01:45:01,950
you'd be displaying
sheds or whatever it

2162
01:45:01,950 --> 01:45:03,250
is you want to be displaying.

2163
01:45:03,250 --> 01:45:07,270
There's typically four to five
sheds that are display only.

2164
01:45:07,270 --> 01:45:08,110
They're not.

2165
01:45:08,110 --> 01:45:10,470
You can't actually
pick it up and buy it.

2166
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:11,590
It's a display.

2167
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:16,070
And then the others are
6 to eight actual pull

2168
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:19,590
behind uncovered trailers.

2169
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:22,510
They're utility trailers
that are for sale,

2170
01:45:22,510 --> 01:45:26,910
so they range from depending
on the sale of them,

2171
01:45:26,910 --> 01:45:29,510
anywhere from 5 to 10.

2172
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:30,930
So it's like an
outdoor sales floor.

2173
01:45:30,930 --> 01:45:35,470
Is that a yes for those trailers
right there and then right now

2174
01:45:35,470 --> 01:45:36,250
they're parking spots.

2175
01:45:36,250 --> 01:45:39,550
So they would just be converted
to this outdoor showroom

2176
01:45:39,550 --> 01:45:40,630
concept.

2177
01:45:40,630 --> 01:45:42,610
Yes along this area here.

2178
01:45:42,610 --> 01:45:46,630


2179
01:45:46,630 --> 01:45:48,870
I don't believe we're
going all this far.

2180
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:49,570
Somebody else.

2181
01:45:49,570 --> 01:45:51,430
That's enough.

2182
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:55,310
You're just taking
those first 10 spaces,

2183
01:45:55,310 --> 01:45:58,230
and it won't impact
any of the circulation

2184
01:45:58,230 --> 01:45:59,730
around the shopping center.

2185
01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:05,050
It takes out that whole last
row of parking, which, I mean,

2186
01:46:05,050 --> 01:46:06,990
which is not the people
who use those parking.

2187
01:46:06,990 --> 01:46:12,890
No, because that whole side
is basically for contractors.

2188
01:46:12,890 --> 01:46:14,490
Contractors and professionals.

2189
01:46:14,490 --> 01:46:23,910
So it's separated from where the
retail customers park and go.

2190
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:27,250
It is those 10 spaces there
that we're talking about.

2191
01:46:27,250 --> 01:46:32,070
OK from landscape island
to landscape island.

2192
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:33,590
And there's no
stipulation that's

2193
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:36,670
interrupted because
they don't take they

2194
01:46:36,670 --> 01:46:39,190
don't exceed the parking space.

2195
01:46:39,190 --> 01:46:41,290
They're actually
back about a foot.

2196
01:46:41,290 --> 01:46:45,650
So they do not exceed
the length of the space.

2197
01:46:45,650 --> 01:46:47,410
Correct the length
of the parking space.

2198
01:46:47,410 --> 01:46:51,990
OK, so are they actually the
trailers are parked in a parking

2199
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:54,390
space, like head in.

2200
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:55,770
OK no.

2201
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:59,230
Their tail in their tail so
that you can hook up to it

2202
01:46:59,230 --> 01:47:00,330
and drive it away.

2203
01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:04,150
OK Got it.

2204
01:47:04,150 --> 01:47:06,190
And then the sheds are
actually pushed back

2205
01:47:06,190 --> 01:47:08,990
to the edge of the curb, back
towards the edge of the curb

2206
01:47:08,990 --> 01:47:11,830
here because
they're on that end,

2207
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:14,550
but they're sitting
like in this area

2208
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:16,550
because they're not a
full depth of the parking

2209
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:18,510
stall, which is 18 feet.

2210
01:47:18,510 --> 01:47:20,750
So there's plenty of
room for pedestrians

2211
01:47:20,750 --> 01:47:22,070
to stand out in front of them.

2212
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:26,430
And how many sheds at
one time 4 to five.

2213
01:47:26,430 --> 01:47:30,650
It all depends, of varying
sizes, I would imagine.

2214
01:47:30,650 --> 01:47:32,970
Yes, but they're
more of a display.

2215
01:47:32,970 --> 01:47:34,270
They're not.

2216
01:47:34,270 --> 01:47:36,490
You're not going to bring
a 4 by 14 out there.

2217
01:47:36,490 --> 01:47:38,850
You're going to have a display.

2218
01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:43,230
So it'll be about 6 to
feet wide by 10 feet.

2219
01:47:43,230 --> 01:47:51,357
OK anybody else with a question.

2220
01:47:51,357 --> 01:47:53,390
I don't know if you're going to
be able to answer my question

2221
01:47:53,390 --> 01:47:55,150
or not, but we had
a lot of residents

2222
01:47:55,150 --> 01:47:59,450
that we're concerned about flock
cameras on Lowe's parking lot.

2223
01:47:59,450 --> 01:48:01,670
There's three of them
in that parking lot,

2224
01:48:01,670 --> 01:48:04,390
and I don't know if there's
somebody that would be

2225
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:06,630
a good person to contact
if we had questions

2226
01:48:06,630 --> 01:48:08,830
about the use of flock cameras.

2227
01:48:08,830 --> 01:48:11,030
It's the only place in
town that uses them.

2228
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:14,670
And so I think some residents
had some questions about them.

2229
01:48:14,670 --> 01:48:16,450
I can put you in
touch with someone.

2230
01:48:16,450 --> 01:48:17,250
That would be wonderful.

2231
01:48:17,250 --> 01:48:20,110
I don't have that
individual's name with me.

2232
01:48:20,110 --> 01:48:24,370
They're in AP, which
is asset protection.

2233
01:48:24,370 --> 01:48:29,170
Gotcha so I can definitely are
they strategically located.

2234
01:48:29,170 --> 01:48:31,830
I know there's one
on both ends of here,

2235
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:36,950
so I'm not sure if it is to
protect this new outdoor area.

2236
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:39,010
It's not to protect anything.

2237
01:48:39,010 --> 01:48:41,250
It's reading license
plate as they come in.

2238
01:48:41,250 --> 01:48:47,670
So we're trying to keep
those that have warrants.

2239
01:48:47,670 --> 01:48:51,030
I mean, if you have a warrant
and it comes up, it'll flash it

2240
01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:54,230
and it notifies the
police and they come over

2241
01:48:54,230 --> 01:48:57,350
and we don't want a whole
bunch of people that

2242
01:48:57,350 --> 01:49:01,150
are out there, known felons
that are out there trying

2243
01:49:01,150 --> 01:49:02,790
to rob from us.

2244
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:07,350
But I know that the police
department, typically in some

2245
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:08,910
of our other
jurisdictions, are the ones

2246
01:49:08,910 --> 01:49:12,350
who actually ask us to put
them in the parking lot,

2247
01:49:12,350 --> 01:49:13,130
and we do that.

2248
01:49:13,130 --> 01:49:17,850
And then we do have some
that we provide our own.

2249
01:49:17,850 --> 01:49:22,030
So third party would you have
somebody we can reach out to

2250
01:49:22,030 --> 01:49:23,490
and I'll send it to you.

2251
01:49:23,490 --> 01:49:25,070
I'll actually send
it through, Joe.

2252
01:49:25,070 --> 01:49:26,150
That'd be perfect.

2253
01:49:26,150 --> 01:49:28,090
OK thank you very much for that.

2254
01:49:28,090 --> 01:49:29,530
And if I understand
that correctly,

2255
01:49:29,530 --> 01:49:32,890
this is a Lowe's policy, not
just like local to Easton,

2256
01:49:32,890 --> 01:49:35,430
but this is something
that regional.

2257
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:38,350
Yeah I don't know
what the policy is.

2258
01:49:38,350 --> 01:49:38,850
I'm sorry.

2259
01:49:38,850 --> 01:49:39,530
That's fine.

2260
01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:42,410
It's not in my purview, so
I can't really answer that.

2261
01:49:42,410 --> 01:49:44,450
I don't want to say
anything stupid.

2262
01:49:44,450 --> 01:49:50,710
Does anybody else
have any questions

2263
01:49:50,710 --> 01:49:54,990
regarding the location.

2264
01:49:54,990 --> 01:49:58,730
Anybody have any motion
or question or concerns.

2265
01:49:58,730 --> 01:50:01,150
Are we taking any
questions from the audience

2266
01:50:01,150 --> 01:50:03,630
at this point or no.

2267
01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:05,370
The public hearing was closed.

2268
01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:06,730
The public hearing is closed.

2269
01:50:06,730 --> 01:50:08,890
Yeah you closed that
two meetings ago.

2270
01:50:08,890 --> 01:50:10,190
Yeah you did.

2271
01:50:10,190 --> 01:50:13,230
I'll move to approve
the Amendment.

2272
01:50:13,230 --> 01:50:17,150
Second We have a motion
and a second to approve

2273
01:50:17,150 --> 01:50:19,790
ordinance number 862.

2274
01:50:19,790 --> 01:50:22,670
An ordinance of the town of
Easton granting the application

2275
01:50:22,670 --> 01:50:26,390
of Lowe's home centers, LLC
for a planned unit development

2276
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:30,590
Amendment under the provisions
of the Easton zoning ordinance

2277
01:50:30,590 --> 01:50:33,770
Mr. roff MS Murray.

2278
01:50:33,770 --> 01:50:35,530
Yes Mr. Rankin yes.

2279
01:50:35,530 --> 01:50:36,330
Doctor Montgomery.

2280
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:37,990
Yes Reverend Davis.

2281
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:39,550
Yes president.

2282
01:50:39,550 --> 01:50:42,850
Yes thank you.

2283
01:50:42,850 --> 01:50:44,670
Thank you for your time, sir.

2284
01:50:44,670 --> 01:50:50,030
And if people did have comments,
they can, of course, make them.

2285
01:50:50,030 --> 01:50:53,830
Let me get to public
participation.

2286
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:54,330
All right.

2287
01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:56,670
Moving on.

2288
01:50:56,670 --> 01:51:00,190
Ordinance number 863, we
have to set a public hearing

2289
01:51:00,190 --> 01:51:02,790
for this ordinance number
863, an ordinance of the town

2290
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:05,830
of Easton adopting a temporary
moratorium on the application

2291
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:10,570
for approval of construction,
of expansion of process,

2292
01:51:10,570 --> 01:51:14,790
processing of excuse me, or
issuance of the building permits

2293
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:17,750
for the operation of a data
center within the town of Easton

2294
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:21,470
for a period of 12 months,
pending consideration

2295
01:51:21,470 --> 01:51:25,230
and adoption of revised
zoning ordinance provisions

2296
01:51:25,230 --> 01:51:28,310
and such other legislation
as the town council may

2297
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:31,930
consider advisable to promote
the public health, safety,

2298
01:51:31,930 --> 01:51:32,930
and welfare.

2299
01:51:32,930 --> 01:51:34,650
So we need to set a
public hearing for this.

2300
01:51:34,650 --> 01:51:38,150
Yes and for the next one.

2301
01:51:38,150 --> 01:51:39,330
And for the next one.

2302
01:51:39,330 --> 01:51:42,910
OK ordinance number
864, an ordinance

2303
01:51:42,910 --> 01:51:45,510
of the town of Easton amending
the town of Easton zoning

2304
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:47,670
ordinance to create
the use data center

2305
01:51:47,670 --> 01:51:49,950
and to provide
supplemental standards

2306
01:51:49,950 --> 01:51:51,870
associated with the use.

2307
01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:53,910
So the soonest we could
have a public hearing

2308
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:56,570
would be at your
September 8 meeting.

2309
01:51:56,570 --> 01:51:58,330
There's time, I think,
to get an advertisement,

2310
01:51:58,330 --> 01:52:01,230
because there's an
extra Monday in there.

2311
01:52:01,230 --> 01:52:03,830
And it's going to
go to the planning

2312
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:06,410
commission for recommendation
that later this week.

2313
01:52:06,410 --> 01:52:09,470
So there you will have that
before your public hearing

2314
01:52:09,470 --> 01:52:10,730
if you did it on the eighth.

2315
01:52:10,730 --> 01:52:13,430


2316
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:14,750
All right.

2317
01:52:14,750 --> 01:52:16,030
With that, sir.

2318
01:52:16,030 --> 01:52:16,530
All right.

2319
01:52:16,530 --> 01:52:19,350


2320
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:19,850
All right.

2321
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:21,910
Moving on.

2322
01:52:21,910 --> 01:52:24,390
Time for the public
participation and comments.

2323
01:52:24,390 --> 01:52:25,790
Just like with
the public hearing

2324
01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:29,670
can come up to the microphone
and share your concerns

2325
01:52:29,670 --> 01:52:32,910
or questions with the council.

2326
01:52:32,910 --> 01:52:35,050
I'll try to keep it to about
three minutes for an individual.

2327
01:52:35,050 --> 01:52:37,350
Five minutes if you're
representing a group.

2328
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:38,530
We'd love to hear
from you again.

2329
01:52:38,530 --> 01:52:42,150
Please come up to the podium
and share your name with us.

2330
01:52:42,150 --> 01:52:43,450
You do not need to
share your address,

2331
01:52:43,450 --> 01:52:44,530
but share your name with us.

2332
01:52:44,530 --> 01:52:58,870
And what you're concerned
about is about the data

2333
01:52:58,870 --> 01:53:00,510
center moratorium.

2334
01:53:00,510 --> 01:53:01,490
It's public comment.

2335
01:53:01,490 --> 01:53:03,050
So it could be about
whatever you want.

2336
01:53:03,050 --> 01:53:04,170
You can come up to the podium.

2337
01:53:04,170 --> 01:53:13,090
Sure hello, my name
is William Grant.

2338
01:53:13,090 --> 01:53:19,210
I did not honestly expect for
a data center moratorium here,

2339
01:53:19,210 --> 01:53:23,310
but I just want to express my
own personal support for it

2340
01:53:23,310 --> 01:53:26,430
as typically data
centers, especially

2341
01:53:26,430 --> 01:53:30,550
the more recent ones about AI.

2342
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:34,320
They require large amounts
of processing power and that

2343
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:38,760
and generate large
amounts of heat and noise.

2344
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:44,400
Because to cool the large
amount of processors in there.

2345
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:54,000
And that generally results
in a large quality of life.

2346
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,040
Cost to the residents
of this town.

2347
01:53:56,040 --> 01:54:03,480
And as such, I don't believe
that a data center in Easton

2348
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,600
would be remotely close to
worth the quality of life

2349
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,880
and economic cost of it.

2350
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:10,540
That is all.

2351
01:54:10,540 --> 01:54:11,400
Thank you.

2352
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:12,100
Thank you sir.

2353
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:24,280


2354
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,720
Any other public comments.

2355
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:31,480
Seeing none, move on
to committee reports.

2356
01:54:31,480 --> 01:54:35,840
Anybody have any committee
reports for this evening.

2357
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:36,540
I do not.

2358
01:54:36,540 --> 01:54:38,760
All right, then,
we'll move on to items

2359
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,760
by members of the
Council MS Curry.

2360
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,787
I don't have anything
this evening, Mr. Rankin.

2361
01:54:45,787 --> 01:54:46,620
A couple of brief things.

2362
01:54:46,620 --> 01:54:49,180
Thanks, as always, to everybody
who provided public comments.

2363
01:54:49,180 --> 01:54:50,220
We appreciate those.

2364
01:54:50,220 --> 01:54:52,560
And they're important
for our work.

2365
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,973
I want to continue to
lift up the Todd family.

2366
01:54:54,973 --> 01:54:56,440
Family in Cambridge,
who lost their daughter

2367
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,300
last week in a car accident.

2368
01:54:58,300 --> 01:55:00,360
I know that's impacted
a lot of folks,

2369
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,460
not only in Dorchester County,
but also Talbot County.

2370
01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:04,840
So I want to continue
to lift up that family.

2371
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:08,440
And then finally, I wish
good luck and safe travels

2372
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:10,560
and semesters to
all those going off

2373
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:12,480
to school, returning to school.

2374
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,960
President Patel and
myself have daughters

2375
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,940
who are going off to
college this week,

2376
01:55:16,940 --> 01:55:20,140
and it's our first, well,
this first one for me.

2377
01:55:20,140 --> 01:55:22,660
So it's going to be a big
change and a big challenge.

2378
01:55:22,660 --> 01:55:25,200
And so I just wish
all those kids going

2379
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,680
out to figure out who they are.

2380
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,360
Good luck and have a great time.

2381
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,360
Doctor Montgomery,
first of all, I'd

2382
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:37,260
just like to again congratulate
our youth baseball team.

2383
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:42,680
I am constantly impressed at
the ability of our local teams

2384
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:47,100
in this small town to win
state and larger championships,

2385
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:51,840
and we just have
a great and varied

2386
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:58,000
group of teens in high
school and players second.

2387
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:05,840
Again, I want to thank our Mr.
and Mrs. Van Amburg for taking

2388
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:12,520
on the task of sorting through
the issues at Easton club

2389
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:17,600
and MHC that have to do with
mowing of the grass, which I

2390
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,960
know has been a constant thorn
in the side of the residents

2391
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:26,940
there with issues of is it a
meadow or is it a golf course.

2392
01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:31,960
And then with the many,
many issues and questions

2393
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,180
that have come up about
stormwater management there.

2394
01:56:35,180 --> 01:56:39,720
And I think that
establishing that there

2395
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,600
is one point of
contact in the town

2396
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:47,280
to which complaints, requests,
suggestions should go.

2397
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,840
And similarly, one voice
coming back to answer questions

2398
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:55,840
in one consistent way is
going to do a great deal

2399
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:00,000
to make the community
more comfortable with

2400
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,480
where things are and
to move us forward

2401
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,100
for an ultimate resolution.

2402
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:06,760
So thank you for the
time that you put in,

2403
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,740
and thank you even
more for the time,

2404
01:57:08,740 --> 01:57:12,880
you are going to be putting
into this in the future.

2405
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:13,740
Reverend Davis.

2406
01:57:13,740 --> 01:57:16,720
So I want to make sure
that everyone understands

2407
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,960
the school is about to
start in our community

2408
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:23,420
and when school is in
session, be patient.

2409
01:57:23,420 --> 01:57:24,840
Take your time.

2410
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,640
Traffic is heavy.

2411
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:30,680
And if you have some free time,
you pray for those two fathers

2412
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,560
down there that are
grieving, that their children

2413
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,680
are going to college.

2414
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,060
They'll probably save some money
from the food bill and all that.

2415
01:57:39,060 --> 01:57:42,580
So we just want to
keep them in school.

2416
01:57:42,580 --> 01:57:46,740
Starts for council
president Donna Vitello.

2417
01:57:46,740 --> 01:57:48,720
So we just want to make
sure he stays safe.

2418
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,440
And I also want to speak
out against all this gun

2419
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,960
violence that's happening in our
world and even in our community.

2420
01:57:56,960 --> 01:58:00,420
Senseless people are dying
because of gun violence.

2421
01:58:00,420 --> 01:58:03,480
We need to seek some
answers to the Gun Violence

2422
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:04,820
that's going on in our country.

2423
01:58:04,820 --> 01:58:09,040
So thank you, Reverend Davis.

2424
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,360
I also want to congratulate
again the Maryland State Junior

2425
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:17,000
League champions, and I
really want to share a big

2426
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,720
thank you to not only the
coaches, but the parents,

2427
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:23,720
having been on one of those
teams once before with my son.

2428
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,400
It's a lot of driving.

2429
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,840
It's a lot of extra practices.

2430
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:31,240
So the parents and
the coaches really

2431
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,080
thank you very much for
doing that for your kids.

2432
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,340
And just because everyone
else has said it,

2433
01:58:36,340 --> 01:58:41,000
we do have school starting
on Monday here in town,

2434
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:44,300
dutchmans lane, peach blossom.

2435
01:58:44,300 --> 01:58:46,880


2436
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,240
Glenwood thank you.

2437
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,180
Just keep those
locations in mind.

2438
01:58:50,180 --> 01:58:51,520
Country school.

2439
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:55,640
They're on Goldsboro
high street with ST

2440
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,100
Peter and Paul Elementary.

2441
01:58:57,100 --> 01:59:00,180
So just keep those locations in
mind out on Washington Street.

2442
01:59:00,180 --> 01:59:00,720
There you go.

2443
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:01,220
There you go.

2444
01:59:01,220 --> 01:59:02,440
Thank you.

2445
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,840
Just keep those places in mind
because it will definitely

2446
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,320
be different next week.

2447
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:13,520
And again, I know residents
in certain parts of town

2448
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:17,240
are hoping to see
changes occur, and hoping

2449
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:19,660
to see them maybe occur a
little faster than they are.

2450
01:59:19,660 --> 01:59:24,020
But again, we are
making those changes.

2451
01:59:24,020 --> 01:59:25,340
We are working towards it.

2452
01:59:25,340 --> 01:59:28,320
And government is not
necessarily supposed

2453
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,400
to be moving fast all the time.

2454
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,320
We're supposed to take our
time and make sure we're

2455
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:33,540
doing the right things.

2456
01:59:33,540 --> 01:59:36,280
So those things are
occurring though.

2457
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:39,400
And with that, I'd like to
take a motion to adjourn.

2458
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:41,300
Second All in favor.

2459
01:59:41,300 --> 01:59:44,950
Aye good night everybody.

2460
01:59:44,950 --> 02:00:24,000