1 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:35,900 All right, I appreciate everybody's time to the ECHO Canyon Preliminary Municipality Board Meeting on May 28, 130 p.m., noting that we have a quorum in onsite. We have Jonathan Hoffman joining us virtually, or myself, Craig Weston, Trent Arnold, and Thomas Gottlieb, Melody McCannless, notified us that she was unable to make it today because of some family obligations. 2 00:00:36,580 --> 00:00:45,160 But she was distributed all the materials to review and she's we had a conversation based on any of the questions that she had of that time. 3 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,860 So, all right, Jay. 4 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,520 And Rachel's tent is also not able to attend this meeting. 5 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,300 Okay. 6 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,240 All right. 7 00:00:55,460 --> 00:01:00,880 So basically calling this meeting to order formally anything else I miss Jay or we good to move to the. 8 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:09,840 No, that's it. We have we have the quorum. We have all of all that ready to go. Okay. All right. So the next one on the item is number two 9 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,880 which is the approval of the minutes from the October 13th, 2025 meeting as well as the February 12th. 10 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:23,940 2026 meeting. Just wanted to make sure everybody has those and has had a chance to review them. I know I received them and I did review them. Any other questions or comments? 11 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:30,940 I have reviewed no comments. I have reviewed no comments. Tom Gottlieb? No comments from 12 00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:39,020 Jonathan. Very good. So we can do it in one vote or two, as long as we specify the dates 13 00:01:39,020 --> 00:01:47,780 that we are approving. I will make a motion then to approve the minutes of the October 13, 14 00:01:47,780 --> 00:01:53,660 team, 2025, and the minutes of the February 12, 2026 meetings. 15 00:01:54,860 --> 00:01:57,360 Does anybody second that motion also? 16 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:58,320 I'll second it. 17 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:01,640 So we've got a motion from Tom Gottlieb, a second from Craig 18 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,140 Weston with no other. 19 00:02:04,380 --> 00:02:05,840 Obviously, any questions, comments, 20 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,020 before we go to take a two vote? 21 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,440 None. 22 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,460 OK, take a two vote. 23 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,460 All in favor? 24 00:02:12,740 --> 00:02:12,900 Aye. 25 00:02:13,460 --> 00:02:13,940 Aye. 26 00:02:14,620 --> 00:02:14,800 Aye. 27 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:16,980 All right, that vote is unanimous. 28 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:18,680 Thank you all for doing that. 29 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:25,500 J number three, public hearings, it shows that we've got nothing on the agenda, so we'll move to four. 30 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:32,020 And I'll let you kind of take it from here in terms of the action items A through C, or sorry, E. 31 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,820 We have A through F. So the first one is ratification of representation of litigation council. 32 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:59,880 that was a contract that was following up on the first litigation case, we just added on and we just want to take a vote for the minutes for the record that we've taken that and are confirming we're using the same defense counsel for the litigation side. 33 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:05,060 I am not the litigation council, so that is Smith-Noll's. 34 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,420 So just an acknowledgement of that contract, a ratification of the award. 35 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Is that an actual vote or is that just more of a, we're all acknowledging it? 36 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,240 So that's a vote. 37 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,340 So we need a motion. 38 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:17,240 Yeah. 39 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:21,500 I'll make a motion to approve the ratification of the representation of Smith-Noll's litigation 40 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:21,980 council. 41 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:23,440 I'll second that. 42 00:03:23,740 --> 00:03:25,920 So we've got a motion in a second. 43 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,060 All in favor? 44 00:03:27,820 --> 00:03:28,040 Hi. 45 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:28,780 Hi. 46 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:32,760 That is a unanimously approved move to be. 47 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:39,940 Yes, so this is the renewal of the insurance 48 00:03:39,940 --> 00:03:43,640 and a new requirement that they're imposing, 49 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:49,240 which is not a big issue, but we went ahead and want to add that in. 50 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,220 The reason that we have to do this is when we approved the insurance contract 51 00:03:55,220 --> 00:04:01,960 and negotiation, we capped it at 5,000 based on rates that provided a buffer last year. 52 00:04:02,620 --> 00:04:06,660 As of January 1, those rates have increased significantly, 53 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:13,120 and their lowest rates now are at $5,000 annually for the coverage that we have, 54 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:17,180 plus any of the additional coverages that we have. 55 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,580 So with any additional fees or anything, we pass over that approval for renewal. 56 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:39,480 So at this point, I suggested 10,000 that's in line with the procurement policy and then also filling out the fraud risk questionnaire assessment which goes to both the insurance agency and the state auditor. 57 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:45,120 That does become a public record with the state auditor's office. It's required for all governmental entities. 58 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:52,880 And so now the insurance agencies that that we we work with are asking for that as well as part of their. 59 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Jay, just give a sense of what was the original cost and it's going up and obviously I'm comfortable $10,000, but what's the order of magnitude? 60 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,180 So we're talking about a difference of about 3,800 to about 5,800. 61 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,200 So we're providing a buffer again. 62 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:25,240 So and and then we'll get all those final details we have to submit the last of the application and so this is enabling us to do that as long as it doesn't exceed this cap again, then we would be able to go ahead. 63 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Yeah, I'm fine with the cap given this is just an insurance payment. 64 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,340 Anybody else have questions or comments? 65 00:05:31,340 --> 00:05:40,080 I think this is with Jay in the detail. I think this is the appropriate amount to lift the high agree that's a that's a prudent response. I agree. 66 00:05:41,020 --> 00:05:42,520 Jonathan, any thoughts are you good? 67 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:49,980 All right, so the motion then will be as you've got to list it up here. 68 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:57,400 Yeah, and then for the record, this, the questionnaire is part of the packet that was sent to you. 69 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,860 It complete, it answers fundamental questions that are presented, as I said to everyone. 70 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:07,480 There's a couple of things we're going to have to verify and complete, 71 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,620 and then that would be finalized as part of it as well. 72 00:06:10,940 --> 00:06:18,380 So, but the action is to approve the resolution listed as item 4B. 73 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,620 the resolution for renewal of insurance including confirmation of the fraud risk 74 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:27,000 assessment. I do have somebody else make a motion. Before we do that Craig I just 75 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,620 want since you have the benefit of going through the thing at the same time as I 76 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:34,420 did. I've asked Jay on a number of the items on the fraud risk assessment things we've 77 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:38,440 already discussed. I just want to make sure we get those paper correctly because we 78 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,380 do get additional credit for some of those items that we've already put in place 79 00:06:42,380 --> 00:06:46,440 but maybe haven't formally adopted yet as it relates to, especially items under 80 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:52,540 number two, with some of the credit and purchasing personal use of assets, IT. We have all of those. 81 00:06:52,660 --> 00:06:55,540 I just don't think we've adopted the answer. Jay is going to double check and see what we've 82 00:06:55,540 --> 00:07:00,760 already put in place and anything that hasn't been recorded will adopt at the next meeting. 83 00:07:01,740 --> 00:07:08,900 Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly right. A lot of these are, these are, does the entity have a written 84 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:14,760 policy? So some of these we don't have because there's no cash proceeding into deposits. We don't 85 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:20,640 have a written policy, but we can easily adopt one to have in place for when that changes. 86 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:24,940 JJ, I would I'd recommend that we we just go through some of these kind of ticket and I don't 87 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:28,960 say ticket tack or kind of smaller items to get them in place because of you know at some point 88 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 we're going to start having those types of things. So we just want we don't have to go back into 89 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,260 a piece mill. Yeah. And this year has to travel to Salt Lake for something it's better to have the 90 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:45,080 policy before they have to travel and submit reimbursement. Yeah. Yeah. So we will plan on having 91 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:51,980 some of these that are pretty standard forms on our next agenda for the next meeting in a week. 92 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:59,480 Perfect. All right. Thanks, Greg. Yeah. All right. So I think we're back to, does anyone want to make 93 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:06,460 that motion? I'll make a motion to approve resolution 4b as discussed, including the renewal of our 94 00:08:06,460 --> 00:08:11,140 insurance of the increased annual cost including the confirmation of the fraud risk assessment and 95 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:16,400 questionnaire. Do we have a second? I'll second that. All right. Jonathan's got the motion. 96 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:22,380 Tom has seconded it all in favor. I that is unanimous. 97 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:31,540 I think it's correct. We're on to 4c. 4c so brief background on this. In the February meeting, 98 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:50,240 the board adopted an amendment that kind of clarified the process for removal of a planning commission board member and then following that process, a letter was sent and this is the chair has that authority with advice and consent of the board. 99 00:08:50,860 --> 00:09:07,040 So, you know, advising consent is often just a, you know, I've talked about it at a meeting and therefore, you know, nobody objected and that's good enough but for our purposes, I'd recommend again having a vote just like we did on the ratification. 100 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:14,680 There's not a formal resolution, but having a vote so that it's reflected in a minutes to remove board member tax. 101 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:19,480 Yeah, and I'd like to put on the record, you know, the appreciation that we've given 102 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,840 the extra for putting the time into it and everything else, and the amount of work, 103 00:09:22,860 --> 00:09:26,880 because it's certainly not a glorious and glorified position to be in. 104 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 So we do appreciate his efforts that he had on the board. 105 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:32,820 So I would second that, thanks for your service. 106 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Yep. Okay, let's do, is this an actual motion then again? 107 00:09:37,860 --> 00:09:41,000 Yes. Okay, all right, who wants to queue it up? 108 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:56,860 I'll cue it up. So this is to approve the motion for C consideration with the advice and consent of the ECHO Canyon Board, the removal of an ECHO Canyon preliminary municipality planning commission board member. 109 00:09:56,860 --> 00:09:58,100 We have a second. 110 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Strand by second. 111 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:03,680 So Tom's got the motion. We got the second. All in favor. Aye. 112 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:04,080 Aye. 113 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,540 Pass as unanimously. 114 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:08,400 All right, for D. 115 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:20,860 And so this is the update to the electronics meetings policy of one of the things that I do every year is is follow what's going on the legislature this year. 116 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:22,600 There were some public notice. 117 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,140 or the electronic meeting policy updates, 118 00:10:26,380 --> 00:10:30,060 they didn't directly affect ECHO Canyon, 119 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:33,400 but at the same time, I was able to update down 120 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,560 to a one page that's simplified and kind of clarifies 121 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,800 so having it better up to date policy. 122 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,860 That's been super helpful, Jay, 123 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,200 so I appreciate your work on that. 124 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,800 I know the legislative session can be pretty daunting 125 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,080 with all of the changes I do, 126 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,980 So really do appreciate your work on that. 127 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:56,960 So yeah, that is it. 128 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,200 And so part of that is just referring back to state law with some of these, 129 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,840 these code references rather than trying to restate what's already there. 130 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,480 So it's pretty, pretty streamlined. 131 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:10,960 The only. 132 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:13,960 There were also some corrections. 133 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,680 So anyway, but the primary purpose, as you know, is to authorize a meeting structured like this, 134 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:26,380 where board members can vote that are not physically present without a policy in place of some sort, 135 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,700 that's just not possible. Awesome. All right, any other questions or comments on this one? 136 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:39,660 No. Okay. Yeah, Jay, you want to roll back to that, to the title pageant. Who would like to make 137 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:40,320 a motion on this one? 138 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:48,970 Don't all speak up the ones. I can go for Jonathan. I moved to approve 139 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:53,370 the resolution for the discussed, including the update to the electronic beatings policy. 140 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:58,210 All right, we've got a motion with a second. All in favor, aye. 141 00:11:58,710 --> 00:12:05,410 All right, that passes unanimously. All right, four, it's E. 142 00:12:06,130 --> 00:12:15,430 All right, so this is the big one. So for the government entity on a fiscal year ending June 30, 143 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:19,890 we have to have a tentative budget adopted 144 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:25,730 and then a final budget hearing and adoption 145 00:12:25,730 --> 00:12:26,670 by the end of June. 146 00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:28,890 So this is the first in that set of meetings. 147 00:12:30,090 --> 00:12:33,510 It's we also during this meeting have to establish 148 00:12:33,510 --> 00:12:37,490 when that next meeting is, when the public hearing is. 149 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:40,170 It's kind of one of the only times 150 00:12:40,170 --> 00:12:41,470 where we have to have a meeting 151 00:12:41,470 --> 00:12:48,530 where where we then say when the next meeting is going to be, but that's what that's the primary purpose of this 152 00:12:49,690 --> 00:13:00,010 because there were because there was not a budget previously, we reported the zero dollars, zero dollars for 26 153 00:13:00,010 --> 00:13:04,690 and and now we're just looking at 27, which are estimated budgets. 154 00:13:04,690 --> 00:13:27,550 So what we have, we amp now to be clear, the budgets are estimated in part because there has not been under the reimbursement and funding agreement that the echo canyon entered into with the property owner development entity, no calls have been made under that. 155 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:40,250 So that authorized ECHO Canyon to enter into notes agreeing to repay reimbursements. So there have been expenses. I mean obviously I have expenses. 156 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:45,890 The recorder has been paid. Those are being paid under that agreement. 157 00:13:45,890 --> 00:13:49,830 and we're in the process of getting requests in place 158 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:54,330 so that the debts will be owed, 159 00:13:54,630 --> 00:13:59,010 but there's no obligation that those be on a timeline. 160 00:13:59,350 --> 00:14:00,710 So if that happens, 161 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:04,010 we'll do a budget update in 27 162 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:06,190 and kind of see where those are. 163 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:07,390 To that end, 164 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:11,970 the actual echocane expenses that we think 165 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:15,610 would reasonably be anticipated would be 166 00:14:15,610 --> 00:14:22,190 about 25,000. There's not a lot going on, but there are administrative costs, legal costs 167 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:29,970 that are tied to that. So, and that's subject to when the actual calls are made on. 168 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:38,930 And then the second part of it is setting the budget hearing for June 4th at 1 p.m., 169 00:14:38,930 --> 00:14:45,890 same place just a half an hour earlier in a week and we would post notice of that today 170 00:14:46,390 --> 00:14:53,030 so that it's it's posted seven days ahead of of that public hearing. Perfect. Any questions from 171 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:59,030 the board on any of these items? Not for me. I'm pleased that we put all the work together. Thank 172 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:59,970 Thank you, Trent, for that- 173 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Work. Yeah. No questions. No problems, no questions. Let's just ensure we pressed everything appropriately. Yeah, there's no. All right, Jay on roll back to the title page. We'll get a motion going. You can read. Yeah, I got. Anyone volunteer to do. I will volunteer to make a motion. So this is a motion for for e in the schedule pursuant to the written materials on the discussion that just took place. 174 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:40,920 a resolution adopting a tentative budget for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2027, and setting June 4, 2026 as the date for a public budget hearing. 175 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Do I have a second? 176 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,120 I'll second. 177 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,300 Great. We have a proposal in a second. All in favor? 178 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:46,780 Aye. 179 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:47,760 Aye. 180 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,620 That is unanimous. 181 00:15:50,580 --> 00:15:51,080 All right. 182 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:57,200 So that that takes care of E and then F is an updated records policy. 183 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:08,060 which is this resolution here. When we had the original foundational meeting 184 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:14,220 back last year, we did adopt a records and communications policy. This is 185 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:20,480 an update to that one. There were some clean-up, some typos, but the biggest change 186 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:31,200 is to authorize fees for responding to grandma requests and adopting that as well, some clean up. 187 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:36,820 So, that's what this is. It largely just adds a section at the end here for fees for 188 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:45,120 records requests. Under state law, a government entity is able to charge for fees at cost. 189 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:54,480 The idea is that the requester should bear the burden of that cost rather than the average tax payer. 190 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,360 How's the cost calculated? 191 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:12,140 It is the hourly rate of the lowest paid person able to complete that request, which means if the attorney is the lowest paid person that can complete the request, it is the attorney's rate. 192 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:14,200 That's your rate right now. 193 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:23,760 So, well, and now that we have Rachel on board for those purposes, it would be, it would be her, okay, for those parts that she can facilitate. 194 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:29,600 So, that's, that is, that is the structure of how those work. 195 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,800 And that's, that's kind of the idea. 196 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Perfect. 197 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:35,320 Any questions on the board? 198 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,220 I think this is reasonable. 199 00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:40,600 Appreciate you putting us together and researching what on our best practices are today. 200 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,440 All right. 201 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,520 So we want to make a motion. 202 00:17:53,980 --> 00:17:58,420 I'll second that. Let's take it to a vote. All in favor? 203 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,240 All right, that passes unanimously. 204 00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:07,080 Okay. That was the last action item on the agenda. 205 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:14,260 I don't have any, I'm not aware of any board member reports that haven't already been addressed. 206 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:33,060 There's some takeaway action items for me to work with, with, well, Rachel on some of the items for the next meeting and putting together some of those, those additional items to help with the fraud risk assessment and those things. 207 00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:42,760 And then we'll also be looking at all, also be providing an update on some of the state level reporting at the next meeting too. So, okay. 208 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:54,800 Sounds good. All right. We are on to, like you said, there's really no board reports and so any items that are for closed session litigation that anybody wants to talk about in private. 209 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:57,200 I don't have any. 210 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,280 No. 211 00:18:59,100 --> 00:18:59,400 Okay. 212 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:00,420 Jonathan. 213 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,400 I'm good. 214 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,140 Okay. 215 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,340 I don't think we have anything that we need to discuss in a closed session. 216 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,020 So I will make the motion to adjourn our meeting for today. 217 00:19:10,180 --> 00:19:10,660 Do I have a second? 218 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:12,180 I will second. 219 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:13,460 Oh, we have two seconds. 220 00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:14,260 It was ready to get done. 221 00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:15,220 All right, everybody. 222 00:19:15,260 --> 00:19:17,700 We've got a motion to close and then a second. 223 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,320 All in favor? 224 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:18,700 Aye. 225 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:19,460 Aye. 226 00:19:20,540 --> 00:19:20,880 All right. 227 00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:21,380 Thanks, everybody. 228 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,640 Thank you. 229 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Thank you.