1 00:00:01,390 --> 00:00:12,290 All right. Good afternoon. It is August 20, 4, 2020, 6, 6 o'clock PM, an act of kind of commissioner's quarters now in session. If you'll please rise for the invocation by commissioner Samantha Russell, pledge allegiance by commissioner Gregson. 2 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:07,040 As with all meetings of the 3 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,040 at the front table. 4 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,320 Oh, we asked you to fill it out in its entirety and bring that forward to Jennifer Martin, 5 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,680 who is our wonderful county clerk, and then she'll pass it along to me and record it into 6 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,340 the minutes. 7 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,800 You'll be afforded three minutes of time. 8 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:20,920 Please adhere strictly to that time. 9 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,660 We have some quite a few folks who would like to speak tonight. 10 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:26,960 Also, audience members, we do have some Commissioner Court rules. 11 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,420 We want to just discourage any loud cheering or anything of the sort. 12 00:01:32,580 --> 00:01:36,040 We allow it to some extent, but this is not your kid's tea bowl game. 13 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,020 This is a court hearing, so please respect that. 14 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,000 All right. 15 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,400 We do have number one is to receive public comments on non-agenda related items. 16 00:01:45,580 --> 00:01:48,100 We do have five folks who wish to speak. 17 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:50,220 And so we will call for Mr. Jeff Russell. 18 00:01:56,970 --> 00:01:57,330 Good evening. 19 00:01:58,050 --> 00:01:59,450 Judge Falsik, commissioners. 20 00:01:59,650 --> 00:02:01,210 I wanted to bring two things to that. 21 00:02:02,430 --> 00:02:02,970 Is that better? 22 00:02:03,470 --> 00:02:03,710 Yes. 23 00:02:03,970 --> 00:02:04,290 Okay. 24 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:07,910 I wanted to bring two things before the court to not. 25 00:02:08,350 --> 00:02:10,630 To make sure you guys were aware of what was going on. 26 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:19,530 I followed a public information request on April the 29th, where I requested communications 27 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:24,890 of meeting records involving Judge Paulsett, his office Zachary Zal and New Air Energy, 28 00:02:25,170 --> 00:02:28,670 and Digital and Texas Critical Data Centers and the related entities. 29 00:02:29,950 --> 00:02:34,430 And instead of producing the records, I can even went to the Texas Attorney General and 30 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:39,810 argue that the project communications should be withheld under the economic development exception 31 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:46,610 section 552.131 of the Public Information Act. The county specifically argued that disclosure 32 00:02:46,610 --> 00:02:52,630 would harm ongoing negotiations involving this project. The attorney general has since ruled 33 00:02:52,630 --> 00:02:59,510 in that case, and has ordered the county to turn over those responsive information to me. 34 00:02:59,910 --> 00:03:06,210 Since twice requested, those documents be turned over to me. I have twice not seen them. 35 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:11,570 So it's very important that the county, it's here to take his law that Attorney General 36 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:17,010 has ruled, those documents should be delivered, and we need to get into why they have 37 00:03:17,010 --> 00:03:18,150 not yet been produced. 38 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:20,450 Those have been produced? 39 00:03:21,050 --> 00:03:21,090 Yes. 40 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:26,430 And we got the Attorney General letter about, I think, two weeks after Mr. Russell, we were actually 41 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:27,590 trying to find it. 42 00:03:27,590 --> 00:03:30,970 We did get it, and those documents have been released, Mr. Russell, if you don't have them, 43 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:31,850 please let us know. 44 00:03:31,850 --> 00:03:32,250 Okay. 45 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:35,830 I have to see them as of this afternoon when they've been sent out, but thank you for that. 46 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:37,090 Well, but we'll make sure we get him. 47 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:38,310 OK, thank you. 48 00:03:38,790 --> 00:03:43,250 The second thing is I'd like to talk about the county, 49 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:44,890 New County Cemetery. 50 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:49,990 There was comment made during the budget hearings 51 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:52,850 by Commissioner Simmons that kind of alluded 52 00:03:52,850 --> 00:03:56,430 to the fact whether he wondered aloud whether 53 00:04:01,710 --> 00:04:04,270 the county moving forward with a new cemetery 54 00:04:04,270 --> 00:04:06,130 was even legal under Texas law. 55 00:04:07,090 --> 00:04:12,530 I did some digging into it, and it sent over to Ms. 56 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:19,490 Prentice, my research, but it looks very much like the county may be in violation of Texas 57 00:04:19,490 --> 00:04:25,690 law and building a new cemetery unless it's for the express and complete and only purpose 58 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:36,630 of interning poppers, which the county is legally required to take care of, but I would 59 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:43,730 really, really encourage the court to, until we get a written ruling out of our county 60 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:47,410 attorney and more importantly, I think maybe a written ruling out of the Texas Attorney General's 61 00:04:47,410 --> 00:04:54,330 office to put a halt on that project until it is determined that that project can legally 62 00:04:54,330 --> 00:05:00,670 move forward. Thank you. Next we have Joanne Kies. 63 00:05:13,690 --> 00:05:17,950 I don't have a statement. I have some bullet points. I went back and did my homework 64 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:25,710 as far as the county can and can control for data centers. I broke it down into two to what 65 00:05:25,710 --> 00:05:30,930 the city has power to do and what the county has power to do so that we can hit the right 66 00:05:31,910 --> 00:05:37,890 We've talked about tax abatements and negotiated agreements and how counties can leverage economic incentives. 67 00:05:38,830 --> 00:05:46,050 Chapter 312 tax abatements. Countries can contractually buying developers to specific local standards regarding noise mitigation, 68 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:49,650 vegetative screening, water recycling and road repair. 69 00:05:52,630 --> 00:05:57,510 Temporary moratoriums, we've heard that didn't work in Hokeh County because those 70 00:05:57,510 --> 00:06:01,890 fakes faced strict legal scrutiny, and are meant to by time rather than serve as a permit 71 00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:06,990 ban, but I think we're all fine with Hokeh Temporary moratorium just so we can figure out 72 00:06:06,990 --> 00:06:08,670 how this is actually going to work. 73 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:14,750 Rotant infrastructure regulation, county, county's maintain explicit authority over county 74 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:18,370 road usage, overweight vehicle permits, and subdivision infrastructure. 75 00:06:18,370 --> 00:06:23,770 Commissioners can enforce strict bonding, weight limits, and repair mandates for heavy construction 76 00:06:23,770 --> 00:06:24,650 traffic. 77 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:30,610 On site permitting counties have direct regulatory oversight regarding onsite sewage facilities, 78 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:36,250 septic systems, and floodplain management, which would be an interesting question, I think, 79 00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:37,290 here as far as flooding. 80 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:44,110 Commissioners can leverage new state-level audit pauses from the governor's office, 81 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:50,970 coordinate with the Texas Association of Counties and Implement permitted local checklists for public safety noise and infrastructure. 82 00:06:52,730 --> 00:07:07,810 Permitting and development checklists adopt adopt objective local safety road use traffic and noise mitigation checklists that fall safely under existing statutory county road and public health authorities rather than band county zoning. 83 00:07:07,810 --> 00:07:14,110 joint county coalitions. That's a thing. I'm sort of learning about it now. 84 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:19,450 Counties can engage with the Texas Association of Counties to participate in ongoing legislative 85 00:07:19,450 --> 00:07:28,590 round tables and coordinate joint pushes for statutory local authority for unincorporated areas ahead of the next legislative session. 86 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,700 And then I have a little bit of information just a blurb without revenue impact. The Texas Controller 87 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:43,880 of Public Accounts estimates tax exemption for data centers have caused, have surged past 3.3 billion. 88 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,220 That's a lot of money worth throwing away. That was the only points I had. I'm happy to send 89 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,400 my research if anybody's interested. Thank you. 90 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:00,400 next up we have Justin Malcolm 91 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:13,230 good evening I came here after work because I 92 00:08:13,230 --> 00:08:18,490 specifically was told that this is a more direct avenue to talk about date 93 00:08:18,490 --> 00:08:23,810 data centers and their harms on the environment and working population here. I have 94 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:28,850 the privilege of doing deliveries in service of the low field and I get to meet a 95 00:08:28,850 --> 00:08:33,630 lot of faces a lot of people who love their families, love their work, work really 96 00:08:33,630 --> 00:08:38,670 hard. And as someone who has raised a Christian, you know, I believe that these data centers 97 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:45,890 that support these new AI companies are costing families and will raise prices on energy 98 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:55,990 on water, especially in this town where even West Odessa water is a dire need. And data 99 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:58,840 centers 100 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:05,260 costs two to three million gallons of water. They use two to three million gallons of water. 101 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:13,060 like almost every day, and A.I. itself has, 102 00:09:17,060 --> 00:09:20,940 A.I. itself is, if you're a parent, you have a 103 00:09:20,940 --> 00:09:26,740 son, you have a daughter, A.I. you know, they use this phone every day, and they are able 104 00:09:26,740 --> 00:09:33,040 to access this app that connects us the internet, and can tell them things that, you know, as 105 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,320 parents are concerning for us. 106 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,040 And as a city, as a community, it's deeply 107 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,260 concerning to me, and it should be deeply 108 00:09:43,260 --> 00:09:45,140 concerning to everyone in this room 109 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:48,380 who is really profiting off of these AI data centers. 110 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,700 And data centers will do nothing for this community 111 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:53,680 to things that this community needs, 112 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,880 especially in times of extreme cold and extreme heat, 113 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,560 with our electricity sometimes going out, 114 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,740 intermittent blackouts across town, 115 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:20,540 Even if it's just a small house, it's deeply concerning and that's why if you're just just someone who's in this town, someone who's working, if you're in this town and you're someone who's working, this should be deeply concerning for all of us. 116 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,540 Thank you. 117 00:10:23,140 --> 00:10:24,600 Next, we have Jesse Pores. 118 00:10:35,310 --> 00:10:35,730 Good evening. 119 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:41,810 I'm here to acknowledge to ledger when no, my name is Jesse Pores. 120 00:10:42,090 --> 00:10:44,210 I'm running for County Commissioner of Peace and for. 121 00:10:44,830 --> 00:10:49,570 I'm running because I believe the community serves someone who is willing to listen to the people, 122 00:10:50,070 --> 00:10:53,730 work hard and also I am a public servant community organizer. 123 00:10:54,490 --> 00:10:56,710 I also am military veteran. 124 00:10:57,330 --> 00:11:02,010 At the time, I want to let people know that I'm here to hear the concerns. 125 00:11:02,010 --> 00:11:07,570 to do the best I can to acknowledge any of the problems that need to be resolved. 126 00:11:07,810 --> 00:11:19,310 I mean there are going to be some problems that I can't give a manager, but I will do my best to find the answer or find a person that can give me the answer to acknowledge to let people know what's going on. 127 00:11:19,610 --> 00:11:25,390 Other than that, I am running for a precinct for and I'm here to let people know. Thank you. 128 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:30,620 Thank you, Ms. Forest. Next, we have Francisco Morales. 129 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:55,570 Hello, my name is Francisco Morales, and I'm here to tell the people who don't know that they want to build AI data centers here in Ector County. 130 00:11:56,030 --> 00:11:59,430 Our elected officials have been meeting privately with these tech billionaires. 131 00:11:59,690 --> 00:12:05,090 They want to give them tax breaks, and they claim that the data centers are going to build jobs, but they're not. 132 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:09,130 They make a small amount of jobs, and apart from that, AI is helping take away jobs. 133 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:13,650 AI has taken thousands of jobs, so do we really want to help them take more? 134 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:24,730 The data centers also release a ton of emissions, which are harmful, to breathe in, they are planning on making gas plants to create their own electricity, but at the cost of giving away our air. 135 00:12:24,970 --> 00:12:30,630 Pickles is already getting a massive data center. They are going to release more emissions than entire fucking countries. 136 00:12:30,990 --> 00:12:33,390 Like, this is fucking crazy, guys. What the hell? 137 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:45,650 All right, and then no, hey, that's we don't let the ruck me. No, I will interrupt. I will interrupt. No, you will not. Yeah, this is my time. No, this is my time start. I'm sorry. You violated the rule for time any more. 138 00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:55,410 All that air is going to make us. Let's go. We're going to have to ask you to remove the room. 139 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:59,090 Yeah, I haven't finished talking, and I still have more time. No. 140 00:12:59,090 --> 00:13:00,170 Okay, I'm one right now. 141 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:00,810 We take my time. 142 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:03,350 You for instance, you have your old language. 143 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:05,770 I'm just said to call the First Amendment the right ages. 144 00:13:05,770 --> 00:13:06,690 You know about that, France. 145 00:13:07,070 --> 00:13:07,590 You can tell me? 146 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:08,590 You can keep unwittingly. 147 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:10,190 You can attempt to court and be fine. 148 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,310 We really don't want to do that. 149 00:13:12,190 --> 00:13:12,990 Please step away. 150 00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:13,830 Please step away. 151 00:13:13,950 --> 00:13:14,330 He'll be held by you. 152 00:13:14,330 --> 00:13:15,230 I may finish my comment. 153 00:13:15,410 --> 00:13:15,450 No. 154 00:13:15,450 --> 00:13:17,910 I'm not going to let you finish, you violated those rules. 155 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:19,930 Please leave it up. 156 00:13:20,290 --> 00:13:21,190 You're a public servant. 157 00:13:21,470 --> 00:13:22,030 Well, they're all the vines. 158 00:13:22,850 --> 00:13:23,510 Thanks, Cisco. 159 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:25,310 I'll give you a step out here. 160 00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:25,950 We'll go in now. 161 00:13:26,210 --> 00:13:26,370 Talk. 162 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:32,470 You're not talking you're done. No, I'm not you're done. I have my time. I'm on my time back. Sir 163 00:13:34,510 --> 00:13:40,630 Your Francesco, I'm in the right way. What's the Constitution they're not for the Constitution? Let's go 164 00:13:40,630 --> 00:13:46,970 It's done. Okay, Francisco. This is bullshit. No, sir. It's not. Come on. I'm not talking to me 165 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:51,510 Come on. Why would I talk to you? Are you are you voting on tax breaks? No, I'm not the first 166 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:53,830 But you're in here. You're disrupting a beating 167 00:13:53,830 --> 00:13:55,290 It's a violation of detectives. 168 00:13:55,310 --> 00:13:58,010 It's not. There's nothing. It's my public comment. It's my time. 169 00:13:58,150 --> 00:14:01,030 That is not disruption. I'm sorry sir. I'm sorry. You believe that. 170 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:01,630 It is a disruption. 171 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:03,810 So please people stay both. 172 00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:04,970 Sir, the people here. 173 00:14:05,150 --> 00:14:05,650 Don't just go. 174 00:14:05,810 --> 00:14:06,930 Look at Cisco. Please. 175 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:07,310 Oh, great. 176 00:14:07,530 --> 00:14:08,430 How about my shit? 177 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:09,170 I don't know. 178 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:09,370 I don't know. 179 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:10,150 Sir, jizzers. 180 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:11,330 I'm not searchin' or see you. 181 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:12,150 You're the group you clearly. 182 00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:12,850 My paper. 183 00:14:13,090 --> 00:14:13,530 That is mine. 184 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:14,150 I know. 185 00:14:14,370 --> 00:14:14,910 It's a cool question. 186 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:19,000 All right. 187 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,040 Next we have Donald Rutledge. 188 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Good evening. 189 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:34,360 Good evening. 190 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:40,240 I'd like to see you in my 191 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,140 future in the mind, thank you. 192 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:42,880 We're good. 193 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:45,080 All right. 194 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,900 What has precinct one 195 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:50,400 commissioner done for West 196 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Odessa? 197 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,340 I've made numerous phone calls, 198 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:55,600 lift messages, 199 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:58,040 been up here numerous times, 200 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,120 no response. 201 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:07,820 Our roads are destroyed. Congratulations on getting trip after the redone. You got the insane of tenths. 202 00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:15,040 Are you of a traffic that knocks us? That road is destroyed. It's tearing people's vehicles up. 203 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:27,480 It's not designed for semis, sand trucks. I think we were loaded to the guild of real pop. I'm tired of sand trucks going down my alley. 204 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,660 And I've been front of my house. 205 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,600 This is supposed to be a result of its ulary, but it's not handled that way. 206 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,660 Rheast aspect of the last five years in Nigeria, which is considered a third-year-old country. 207 00:15:43,220 --> 00:15:46,720 West Odessa is rapidly becoming that third-year-old country. 208 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:54,280 You have people, vagueness everywhere, where little pop-ups, stores, everywhere you look. 209 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,580 I don't understand how we let this go. 210 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:05,700 Recently, probably about a year and a half ago, my next door of neighbor has some 211 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:13,180 sisters, more friend came over angry, he was strangling the girl, they called me to 212 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:13,440 help. 213 00:16:14,380 --> 00:16:21,160 Of course, I'm not going with me, he quit, we call the shares, I don't have 214 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:29,260 later they finally set up. We have no law enforcement. We have two million of the 18-wheeler 215 00:16:29,260 --> 00:16:39,220 drivers do not belong on a road at all. Just coming to this meeting on a knock-stop. 216 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:47,340 Let's record them all from the interstate. I had a wait on a seven centrucks to start 217 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:48,300 get them a service room. 218 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,640 But this is just a quick ridiculous. 219 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Probably close to 20 years ago, I got a letter along with 220 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,900 under arrest as my area from the county. 221 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:07,800 If you give us $2,500 right now, when we install water lines, 222 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 you don't have to pay for the hook-up. 223 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:13,040 But you have to plug your water bill. 224 00:17:15,540 --> 00:17:16,680 You don't want to plug my water will. 225 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,420 We still don't have water out there either. 226 00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:21,020 That's 20 years later. 227 00:17:23,050 --> 00:17:26,170 They talk about how water is precious. 228 00:17:26,430 --> 00:17:27,430 Yeah, it is. 229 00:17:28,940 --> 00:17:31,040 The main thing is I'd like to say some action. 230 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,580 More than anything else. 231 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:35,820 Thank you very much. 232 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,440 Mr. Redless just for clarifying statement. 233 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,700 You that letter did not come from the county that he came from me. 234 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Or the water supply company that was looking and getting started out there. 235 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:45,940 We've heard similar stuff. 236 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,100 With that $200. 237 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:48,480 I'm supposed to. 238 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,940 And I will say then, I look forward to hearing years and those folks who said, 239 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:54,260 hey, men to more law enforcement to supporting our budget. 240 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:57,220 We've put more money and law enforcement and more money and roads. 241 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,260 We've put $8 million in road construction, $4 million in road maintenance and $2 million in funding 242 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:07,300 additional road studies to expand roads like Moss Avenue, like Trip and like Knox. 243 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Moves to do great on trip. 244 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Nobody goes the home. 245 00:18:10,820 --> 00:18:14,460 And we should have some water coming down, uh, we don't want towards Knox. 246 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:15,720 We don't want it. 247 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:25,780 because when echo county you feel they just came in took over here by water rate doubled, not worth it. 248 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:28,280 Thank you. Thank you for coming. 249 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,200 All right, that concludes our public participation format. 250 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,320 We will move on to item number two public hearing to consider discussing any 251 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,820 serious action to conduct a public hearing on the proposed budget for fiscal year 252 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,400 2026, 2027, we do have two members of the public who wish to participate. Mr. Jeff Russell. 253 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,880 I must be your favorite judge. I get the first every time. 254 00:18:57,460 --> 00:18:58,960 You know, as we look at the budget, 255 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:06,180 I think when we start as as as average citizens and we start looking at these numbers and we see hundreds of millions of dollars. 256 00:19:07,060 --> 00:19:14,400 I think a lot of times we have a hard time relating to that in our day-to-day lives. Those are numbers we don't typically deal with. 257 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,720 But I want to give you a number tonight that I think, very some scrutiny. 258 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,760 That number is $95,795. 259 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,700 So roughly $96,000. 260 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,480 That's what the county, when you take all the funded positions, and you look at their salaries 261 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:37,400 and all the benefits that go with it, that's the average amount that county employees get 262 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:47,960 funded position. So, $96,000. Of that, 44% of that comes in the form of benefits. So, 263 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:54,700 retirement alone is about $10.5 million a year. Healthcare insurance is another 9.1 million. 264 00:19:55,580 --> 00:20:00,440 And it isn't simply because the county has hard dramatically more people. I looked at a five year, 265 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,160 I went back over and did a pretty deep dive on last five years budget. And over those five budget 266 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:14,100 years, funded positions increased about 10% but payroll has increased about 34% and total 267 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:21,200 personnel costs increased nearly 29% or about 18 million dollars additional. Payroll itself 268 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,860 just the payroll number, not the minimum, 34%. You know, as you look at that, so I said, 269 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,940 okay, what is this compared to? So I looked at our school district. So the counties at 270 00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:41,520 In 1996, the school district is right at $20,000 per employee less in total FTE and in compensation 271 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,780 about 26% less than the county. 272 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:50,340 When you look at health insurance, a lot of this has been driven by health insurance. 273 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:58,960 When you look at that, then county employees contribute a very small amount to their own employee coverage 274 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:05,400 in their family coverage is really low at about $260 a month for a family coverage to give you 275 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,200 a comparison of that. 276 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:13,380 My wife just recently moved from East YCD to MISD in order to get me on her insurance. 277 00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:17,200 We had to add about $1,200 a month. 278 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:18,380 Just for me. 279 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:18,880 No kids. 280 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Just for spouse. 281 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,880 $1,200 in the county that we cost me about 1,000 less if you were a county employee. 282 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:32,400 So I think you can see how things have kind of gotten out of whack over time as we have moved to every budget cycle. 283 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,380 We've been giving increases in some of them quite large increases. 284 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,360 We've really kind of gone above that level. 285 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:41,860 I think county employees ought to be paid fairly absolutely. 286 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,420 But I think it ought to bear some semblance to what's going on in the product sector. 287 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,980 We hear this discussion a lot. 288 00:21:48,980 --> 00:21:55,340 private sector brushes, public sector, but my best analysis, you know, county employees at 289 00:21:55,340 --> 00:22:01,780 96,000, they make more than about 65% of the taxpayers that are helping to fund those 290 00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:02,300 positions. 291 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,660 So I think if there's a place to wrestle, yeah, I think if there's a place to cut, that might 292 00:22:06,660 --> 00:22:08,420 be one good place to live. 293 00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:15,890 Um, next we have Ms. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby Duncan. 294 00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:18,070 He's famous. 295 00:22:18,790 --> 00:22:20,150 I know she is. 296 00:22:21,150 --> 00:22:21,950 Thank you. 297 00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:23,370 I'll take you out. 298 00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:34,830 And I know how to use a microphone. 299 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Good evening. First of all, let me tell you, thank you for serving. 300 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:49,540 You know, to ever get thanks. So thanks. Now I'm here to crucify you. 301 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:53,890 I have a retired teacher. 302 00:22:56,010 --> 00:22:59,430 I have spent a hundred years in the highest rate. 303 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:00,690 Really, 43. 304 00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:03,190 It is ECI-St. 305 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:05,530 And I retired. 306 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:15,050 I would be today, I get less take home pay than I did 25 years ago 307 00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:16,210 when I first retired. 308 00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:20,190 And that's because the state of Texas doesn't like us. 309 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:25,190 And I hope you like your employees better than they like us. 310 00:23:26,430 --> 00:23:31,730 Because a 2% raise is 2% of nothing. 311 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,760 It won't buy a bag of groceries. 312 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,920 It certainly is not going to pay the proposed tax increase 313 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,620 that you're going to impose for the Citizens Effect for County, 314 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,120 or you hope to. 315 00:23:49,710 --> 00:23:58,250 It's going to affect everybody at free level if they pay $200 a month for a one-room 316 00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:03,710 shack that are rents going up and they won't be able to buy groceries. 317 00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:15,880 If they pay 10 like 3,000 a month, they might be able to afford a tax increase and still buy groceries. 318 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:24,340 So please, 2% is a drop in the bucket of what people need to live. 319 00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:30,460 I don't know how many of you men go to the grocery store, but I know Miss Russell does. 320 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,580 I walked out the other day with two bags of groceries that thought I was lucky, I just paid $50. 321 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,760 It's pretty hard out there, folks, and your employees deserve a raise. 322 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:52,700 But there's a special group of employees and one of our previous commentator, comment about it. 323 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:59,880 Our sheriff's department is understaffed, overworked, and underpaid. 324 00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:05,300 You compare their salaries to that of Midland and those of Martin County. 325 00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:11,140 We can't get people. They're going to go there. 326 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:26,440 A two percent raise for somebody who risk his or her life is like giving one peanut to me for a treat. 327 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,640 That's about what it is. 328 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,900 So let's look at the budget again, please. 329 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:43,680 Get that raise up for those people who risk their lives for us for this county every single day. 330 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,880 Thank you. 331 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:51,830 So some notable numbers on the budget, again, thank you, Mr. Duncan. 332 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:58,470 In regards to this budget of the 60 general fund accounts, we have 60 different departments 333 00:25:58,470 --> 00:26:01,890 and different accounts, some departments have multiple, like Ms. Martin over there in the kind 334 00:26:01,890 --> 00:26:02,850 of Claire, she has multiple. 335 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:08,770 19 of those 60 saw decreases this year from last year. 336 00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:12,970 Overall, we're cutting about $5 million of the general fund and expenditures this year. 337 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:19,290 19 of those 60 general fund accounts, or I mentioned, saw decreases 30 or half of the accounts, 338 00:26:19,670 --> 00:26:25,130 saw an increase under 3% and as Ms. Duncan mentioned, that's likely due to the 2% increase 339 00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:30,150 in salaries, just to keep folks working here in public service. 340 00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:38,190 And then 11 of those 60, again, saw over 3% and some of those were expanding the duties, 341 00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:41,070 expanding the offices, adding personnel where it was needed. 342 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:44,370 Some of those notable functions are the county attorney, 343 00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:48,710 getting a public information officer to handle the public information request, 344 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:50,070 as Mr. Russell mentioned. 345 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:55,710 We had over 300 of those public information requests coming over a 45-day span, 346 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:57,830 and one person is handling all of those. 347 00:26:57,830 --> 00:27:00,170 Each one of those require legal documentation, 348 00:27:00,970 --> 00:27:03,090 reductions, correspondence with the attorney general's office, 349 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:04,770 correspondence with the county attorney's office, 350 00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:07,990 and we continue to be flooded by those. 351 00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:13,930 We did see a reduction in staff in the J.P. 3 and 4 offices who have been underperforming. 352 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:27,090 The tax assessor collector did receive two additional staff because we are seeing an additional 1100 new registered vehicles from out-of-state registers coming to actor County per year. 353 00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:32,970 That's 1100 new vehicles from folks out of the state who knows how many from inside of the state we do not know. 354 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:36,910 But we figured that we would add to Miss Lindy's office. 355 00:27:36,910 --> 00:27:50,810 And then another note we did cut a million dollars in the building maintenance fund we are preparing for new new facilities, and we did not think it just to continue to spend at those high levels whenever we are building new facilities. 356 00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:55,150 And I was part of the reason and that compact that we had with the citizens in building new facilities. 357 00:27:55,810 --> 00:28:02,410 So those are some important things. Again, our general fund expense this year is $80 million, $867,120. 358 00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:02,610 20. 359 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:12,830 We will see a $1.8 million surplus, or add the norm levy in the general fund, is $67,268,777. 360 00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:18,890 Decrease of $1.4 million from $68,750,000 to $139. 361 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:22,990 I'll go over the tax rate here in a minute, but I wanted y'all to understand those things 362 00:28:22,990 --> 00:28:24,470 that it takes a lot to fund government. 363 00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:27,270 You heard two different aspects of the employees. 364 00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:30,270 The county does do a 2% race across the board. 365 00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:34,370 We this year had very few that were outside of that 2% raise. 366 00:28:34,550 --> 00:28:36,670 We had a struggle with law enforcement. 367 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:39,770 We did look at what Midland County is doing right now. 368 00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:46,150 We are well under $10,000 less than what Midland County offers their starting deputies. 369 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:48,150 That is a challenge that we face. 370 00:28:48,410 --> 00:28:51,270 One of those things that we do offer is a tremendous benefit package. 371 00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:54,270 And we have a rich history and actor county of offering that. 372 00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:58,990 And that's a program that we discuss with our employees that we try to advertise. 373 00:28:58,990 --> 00:29:04,850 Now again to employees, it's hard to worry about the benefit package in your retirement package when you can't pay the bills 374 00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:07,210 And so we also know that that is a reality 375 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:11,530 So that is something that this commissioners court ways every single time that we look at salaries 376 00:29:11,530 --> 00:29:18,710 We look at competitive markets and we look at those folks who we are employing. There's folks in the county in the county clerk's office in Jennifer morons office 377 00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:24,370 That as soon as five o'clock kids, they got to go run to their second shop and a lot of them are on a government subsidy 378 00:29:24,370 --> 00:29:30,910 because of those salaries, and it's just a challenge that we navigate, and so we do try to offer those competitive benefit packages. 379 00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:38,190 Again, this year, we'll talk about the tax rate here in a second. We did lower the tax rate, or we are proposing to lower the tax rate. 380 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:50,990 And again, we did lower those expenditures as well, while still continuing to offer a well-funded actor county that is providing the services that we think is at par with what the community expects. 381 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:58,270 Okay, we'll move on to item number three to consider discussed to gain a certain action 382 00:29:58,270 --> 00:29:59,970 to conduct a public hearing on the proposed- 383 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Add valorem tax rate. So I will talk about the tax rate briefly. So the proposed tax rate is 0.437469. That's a hard 384 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,040 number to kind of comprehend per hundred dollar valuation. It is a slight decrease from last year 385 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,000 where it was 0.43895. So it's a decrease of 0.001481. 386 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,420 Judge, I'm sorry, real quick. We have to close out the first public hearing to the budget. 387 00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:28,840 Okay. All intertain emotion to close out the first public hearing on the budget. 388 00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:33,100 Motion by Commissioner, all second by Commissioner Gardner, and for the discussion. 389 00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:35,340 All the fair of the state and five by saying aye. 390 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:35,780 All right. 391 00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:36,260 That's the same sign. 392 00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:37,420 Motion passes five zero. 393 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:37,900 My apologies. 394 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:38,820 Thank you, Ms. Prentiss. 395 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:39,680 All right. 396 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Number three to consider discussing answer. 397 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,380 Actually, I should conduct public hearing on the proposal. 398 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,900 I have a long tax rate for fiscal year, 2026, 2027. 399 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,860 So what does that mean for the average taxpayer whenever it comes to that decrease? 400 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:55,540 Is it a massive decrease note, but it is one that we are able to do, and it is one that 401 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:57,660 we want to be able to do. 402 00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:05,200 And so, on a $200,000 home, that is equivalent of $2.96, not a lot, but it's something 403 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,340 and we're trying. Again, we're facing the same cost increase that you are at home. I know I have 404 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:15,580 three children, groceries are a lot. Diapers are a lot. These things are expensive, but also 405 00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:21,400 so are government goods, road materials are arising increase. We have to buy paper and book, 406 00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:26,400 paper prices increase, postage increases, but we're still trying to stay within our limited 407 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,240 means in our limited budget, as I mentioned before, half of our department stayed within 408 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,240 that 3% metric in under 3%. 409 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,420 And Governor Abbott is championing a deal statewide asking every single agency to stay beneath 410 00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:40,920 or have a 3% cut. 411 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,940 And so we took that seriously and tried to stay within that 3% growth. 412 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,640 So the tax rate, again, the MNO rate last year was .3295. 413 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,340 We were keeping the same MNO tax rate this year, it's something that we have either maintained 414 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:57,360 or continue to decrease Commissioner Gardner, yes, that question. 415 00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:03,220 We have found ways to operate government within the same tax rates since we've been in 416 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:03,540 office. 417 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,340 The only thing that has increased in last year was a tax increase. 418 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:12,180 That was for the courthouse and for the juvenile justice facility, these large-scale 419 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,820 facilities that weren't getting any cheaper ladies in gentlemen. 420 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:19,940 This is basic infrastructure that, again, was taxing our building maintenance team that was 421 00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:23,820 costing taxpayers more and again, those were facilities that were going to need to be 422 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,260 And the least expensive, it's not the cheapest. 423 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:28,800 Promise me, it's not a cheap facility. 424 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 We all know we've seen the amount of zeros tied to that 425 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,020 courthouse and through the juvenile detention facility. 426 00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:36,340 But it was never going to go down and cost. 427 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,680 And so this was the least expensive of the actions we could take. 428 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,940 Again, we knew it was inevitable. 429 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,260 But that was last year. 430 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:45,160 This year, again, we lowered that tax rate. 431 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000 But that was only the INS that did see that increase. 432 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,000 We lowered last year the M&O tax rate. 433 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:51,520 This year, again, we left it the same. 434 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,700 we lower the INS, which is our debt service. 435 00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:55,880 So that is what we did with our tax rate. 436 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,260 That is at least what we are proposing. 437 00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,980 We will affirm both the budget and the tax rate tomorrow 438 00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,380 upon our official commissioner's court hearing. 439 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,900 We invite you to participate. 440 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,440 It is going to be a lengthy agenda. 441 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,840 There's over 50 agenda items. 442 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,080 So thank you all for coming here today and discussing that with us. 443 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,480 With that being said, we will open it up now to discuss the tax rate. 444 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,060 We do have some folks who wish to speak. 445 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,720 And we will stick with the theme and bring forward Mr. Jeff Russell. 446 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:54,470 Not often you get to be first and every time every time, but you know, I think when we look at our history of tax rights, not only with extra county, with our other taxing entities, what we see has been a steady trajectory upward over the last number of years and I know this is becoming an increasingly important part of what the legislature is proposing to look at this next year. 447 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:59,430 I set on the legislative parties community for the Republican Party of Texas, and we heard 448 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:06,290 so much testimony from local taxpayers saying, please can you help us somehow rein in 449 00:34:06,290 --> 00:34:07,530 our local governments? 450 00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:15,510 It doesn't matter how much money we have, and they always need more, and I get it. 451 00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:22,030 There's always needs, but you know, the other part that I would point out out of the 452 00:34:22,030 --> 00:34:25,190 I'll look at you that Judge Falsett gave on all that. 453 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:30,630 What he doesn't talk about, too, is the huge amount of additional revenue that has come 454 00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:33,110 in to the county because of the tax assistance district. 455 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:38,990 As far exceeded what was planned, which is about 15 million, now we're up to 30 million 456 00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:46,010 in climbing, that's great, that sells tax money, I like sells tax, much better than 457 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:52,790 tax, it's much water dispersed, doesn't impact people who own homes, but some of that money 458 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:59,170 needs to go to offset some of these things that are, and I understand the roles of how 459 00:34:59,170 --> 00:35:04,530 it can only be spent within the tax. But there can be a lot of shuffling of the shells in 460 00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:13,930 order to help cut our private tax rates. So I would really encourage this court don't go to the 461 00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:20,590 new new revenue tax rate at the very least. This year is you contemplate this year's tax rate. 462 00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:25,150 That will bring in the same amount of money. You'll still be taking in more money because 463 00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:30,510 it's the sales tax assistance district keeps growing. So you're going to have additional money. 464 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:37,130 Also, you get the advantage of all the additional property values that have been added in 465 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:43,290 new construction and whatnot. So I've really encourage you. Let's keep it up the new revenue tax rate. 466 00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:45,290 give everybody a small break. Thank you. 467 00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:47,170 Thank you. 468 00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:52,510 In additional note that I wanted to mention regarding some tax rates and again I like to add 469 00:35:52,510 --> 00:35:57,850 perspective in comparisons. Again we throw out a 43 and some change per $100 valuation. 470 00:35:58,150 --> 00:36:03,370 What does that mean? I broke out some similar counties. We know our neighbors in Tom Green County, 471 00:36:03,590 --> 00:36:09,230 which is San Angelo. Their tax rate is about 4 cents higher. So what does that mean? It's about 472 00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:17,470 a $66 more annually that they pay $60.56 on a $200,000 home, and so that's a good comparison 473 00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:25,710 Taylor County, which is Abelene, is at a $53.14 per $100 valuation, so you would actually 474 00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:32,390 be paying on a similar home $187.86 more, which is a talk county, which is which tough 475 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:33,670 falls again similar in population. 476 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:42,630 There's 53.0644, so you'd be paying $186 in 35 cents more on a $200,000 477 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:43,070 home. 478 00:36:43,310 --> 00:36:46,250 And again, if your home is more or less, you can adjust those rates. 479 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:52,150 And then, Potter County is proposing a 62.25 cent tax rate, 480 00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:55,370 and that would be $369.36. 481 00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:59,230 So again, just in perspective, we are aware that our neighbors 482 00:36:59,230 --> 00:37:03,730 to the eastern Midland County, have a much lower tax rate, but I'd like to remind folks that 483 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:08,070 they have more in oil and gas minerals on their tax rules than our entire county all combined. 484 00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:13,730 So it is not a fair equilibrium, no county can really compare with Midland County's 485 00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:14,310 quite a challenge. 486 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:19,190 But there are some equitable counties and so understand, and it's not one to say that taxes 487 00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:20,170 still are not high. 488 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:24,770 We understand that, and again, that's why we try this good faith effort to lower your taxes. 489 00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:27,390 Next we have Jim Moody. 490 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:28,650 No, I didn't plan. 491 00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:29,910 Okay, thank you, Mr. Moody. 492 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,340 Thank you for coming. All right, we have Christina Samples. 493 00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:52,870 Thank you, Samantha Russell, for pushing for an evening meeting. 494 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:54,910 You should block her phone, please. 495 00:37:57,450 --> 00:37:58,330 Can I hear me better? 496 00:38:00,910 --> 00:38:03,570 Thank you, Samantha Russell, for pushing for an evening meeting. 497 00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:08,190 And thank you everyone for your time for listening to myself and the other taxpayers to voice their concerns. 498 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:11,570 I would like to take a moment and talk about the property taxes. 499 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:18,750 Most of us have to work hard to own a home, to buy a home, and then harder to pay it off. 500 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:26,390 We have to pay property taxes to stay in our pay off homes, or we can lose our home if we do not. 501 00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:31,190 Everyone in this area does not work in the old field, and we are not all making six figures. 502 00:38:31,850 --> 00:38:35,830 Most of us are making a list in 50,000 a year, and have to budget everything. 503 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,190 Some of us are even working more than one job. 504 00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:47,190 We have many that are also secured into civilian and they're making around $1200 a month and they're having to decide what they're going to pay this month and what they have to put off. 505 00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:53,930 So yes, a few cents per hundred added on, you know, here or there doesn't matter. 506 00:38:55,230 --> 00:39:05,050 Okay, what has been happening is is, you know, those few cents per hundred get added and then if you months later our presals come around and the vagoner homes go up. 507 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:11,130 so therefore now we're paying a little bit more. Along with that, and we all know our home insurance 508 00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:19,710 and everything else goes up as well. Okay. I do not think that some of you, personally, I have 509 00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:26,230 ever really had to worry about being in a funding patch. As I do think that maybe you would understand 510 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:32,710 the more importance of a well-worked budget. I believe that everything needs to be re-looked at 511 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:35,830 as you can start by dialing back the plans for the courthouse. 512 00:39:36,770 --> 00:39:39,690 Still, some of the 50 plus acres that we bought years ago, 513 00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:44,390 where they offered 285, where they wanted to build the courthouse along with a detention center, 514 00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:47,770 and we only ended up putting a detention center. 515 00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:51,410 Raw land right now is selling for over 80,000 dollars an acre. 516 00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:54,830 There's over 70,000 acres sitting over there. 517 00:39:55,630 --> 00:39:57,850 Extra, you know, that we could sell off. 518 00:39:58,150 --> 00:40:01,710 We could also look at other properties that extra county owns that we do not use. 519 00:40:01,710 --> 00:40:08,850 I also believe that when you get married at the courthouse minus the certification funds, that money 520 00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:15,070 right now that judges get into pocket that, maybe they should keep that there for some other funding. 521 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:21,730 Unless they're doing this air money off the premises, we do not have money left in our budget. 522 00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:26,950 You know, if you don't have money then say next year they're going to take less out. 523 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:28,430 Maybe they need to do the way with that. 524 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:30,650 Look at the problem areas of all the spin in this going on 525 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:34,610 in the last few months to find a sea where the problems are at. 526 00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:38,730 We do need to go back and check the crappy road work 527 00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:41,910 that's being done and prior to us paying them. 528 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:46,730 Because most of the time, it's worse after they fixed it. 529 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:50,190 And I know that there's also a new talks about $6 million 530 00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:54,150 fixed in the go to the health center that they're wanting to move. 531 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:56,610 I think that we need to not do everything at once. 532 00:40:56,610 --> 00:40:58,230 We can't do it all. Thank you, ms. 533 00:40:58,670 --> 00:40:59,150 Thank you. 534 00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:59,890 Thank you. 535 00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:01,650 Next we have Bobby Duncan. 536 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:21,810 Somebody stole part of our stuff. 537 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:23,630 So I'm going to start right here. 538 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:27,600 We're talking about taxes. 539 00:41:30,330 --> 00:41:32,710 I checked it for a clock to save food 540 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:39,730 and the price of a barrel of oil is 83 dollars. 541 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:43,750 There are all field trucks. 542 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:51,210 those heavy dudes that we said at the traffic lights waiting to pass, who are ruining our 543 00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:55,850 county roads. I don't know if there's any way possible, 544 00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:00,370 but could we put up a toll road 545 00:42:00,370 --> 00:42:09,150 or something for the, just think, have any meetings? We would break them. I feel sorry for the 546 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:14,470 people in maintenance who try to keep those roads going, because the streets are awful, because 547 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:18,190 of them, or the roads they can travel on. 548 00:42:18,990 --> 00:42:25,290 A little more research and some math gave me this data. 549 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:37,610 In April of 2026, Ector County produced 1.6 million barrels of oil. 550 00:42:37,610 --> 00:42:45,190 And if we take today's price 87 cents barrel, or 83, whatever, 551 00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:50,970 test with that was 140 552 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,240 million. 553 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:59,860 A hundred 40 million a month, 554 00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:05,820 I had to really have to zeroes, I don't count that high. 555 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,640 I don't think you do either. 556 00:43:10,570 --> 00:43:15,850 And if we take a 12 month estimate, can you guess for it? 557 00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:26,480 1 billion $680,000 million dollars. 558 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,620 Now, Billion, 559 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,980 where's our cut? 560 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,600 It's a good question. 561 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,020 Where is the legislature? 562 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,380 Those big corporations are eating us dry. 563 00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:46,060 They're taking every figure away from us. 564 00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:48,180 They're messing up the environment. 565 00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:54,720 But our environmental people work night and day trying to keep a bomb test to keep those 566 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,400 drill sites clean and possible. 567 00:43:59,770 --> 00:44:04,170 I know a lot of the money goes to public schools. 568 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:10,450 That's the Robin Hood law in her sector county, of course, tremendously. 569 00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:22,630 And I know that the state slush fund is billions and billions of dollars. 570 00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:24,310 Where is that to County? 571 00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:29,830 Why can't we get the money some way for these oil companies? 572 00:44:30,350 --> 00:44:34,810 And there are five of you up there to figure out a way to do it. 573 00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:38,620 May I have just a moment more? 574 00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:43,020 Okay, give the other lady the privilege, thank you. 575 00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:48,790 That data center is questionable. 576 00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:51,030 It likes the oil field. 577 00:44:51,250 --> 00:44:52,670 It's going to harm our citizens. 578 00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:56,010 Please do more research into it. 579 00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:59,970 I know that if a child lives within 200, go 2 and a half. 580 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,910 Miles of a data center, their mental development is questionable. And I got this data from the 581 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:17,770 world's largest or not the world, the nation's largest organization, the National Education 582 00:45:17,770 --> 00:45:21,050 Association, and he does the research on that. 583 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:23,350 Thank you, Mr. Duncan. 584 00:45:23,830 --> 00:45:25,550 Okay. Thank you. 585 00:45:25,570 --> 00:45:30,630 I will just answer a question regarding the oil and gas funds. The state does collect a seven 586 00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:35,850 tax and you are correct. It funds a majority of the state of funds, the ESF which is the 587 00:45:35,850 --> 00:45:39,750 economic stabilization fund, which is the slush fund that you represented. It does 588 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:44,530 fund the permanent school fund that funds our schools, our school system public schools. 589 00:45:44,530 --> 00:45:49,530 It would give it to them. It also funds exactly the text in significantly. 590 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:55,590 And as well as the permanent university fund, which funds are Texas A&M and UT systems. 591 00:45:55,590 --> 00:46:01,830 So, we've, I've worked with Representative Langrafe, he's authored some bills regarding bringing 592 00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:06,510 a percentage of that oil and gas severance tax back to counties in which it is produced. 593 00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:11,310 It has passed the House, several sessions it has failed in the Senate repeatedly. 594 00:46:12,130 --> 00:46:20,730 It is certainly a challenge, there are, there is some pennies that are out there regarding 595 00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:26,750 the County Transportation Infrastructure Fund, the C-TIF program and it is $500 million across 596 00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:30,870 the entire state to all oil and gas producing counties and over a five year peer 597 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:36,450 doctor county was slated to receive a whopping $5 million. This past session, they scrapped 598 00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:40,450 that $250 million program, they didn't even fund it at $500. They scrapped the $250 million 599 00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:45,890 program despite the fact that the permit base and funds the entire state. So it is something 600 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:50,210 that I've worked on, it's something that I'm passionate about. Unfortunately, it's something 601 00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:54,470 that our state legislature treats us like a mining colony and there is no oil and gas 602 00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:59,290 severance funds that come to this come to counties and it is a tragic scenario. 603 00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:00,010 No doubt. 604 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:00,330 Good. 605 00:47:00,470 --> 00:47:01,350 I make one policy. 606 00:47:01,630 --> 00:47:02,030 We mark. 607 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:03,030 One policy. 608 00:47:04,310 --> 00:47:05,390 All right. 609 00:47:06,350 --> 00:47:11,950 Leadership means stewardship and you are elected leaders for this county. 610 00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:21,150 So, that puts you in the responsible position of looking after your county and your constituents. 611 00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:22,590 Thank you so much. 612 00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:23,210 Yes, ma'am. 613 00:47:23,230 --> 00:47:24,170 Thank you, Ms. Duncan. 614 00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:27,770 Next, we have Robert Bailey. 615 00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:40,640 Good. 616 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:41,140 Commissioner. 617 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:44,360 Actually, I go by Bill. 618 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,420 That's what Billy knows me. 619 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,180 Okay. 620 00:47:46,940 --> 00:47:47,880 Legal, legalities. 621 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,700 That's the first name. 622 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,800 Along with the property taxes, 623 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:58,760 The small increase on the actual tax rate is not what's killing the people in 624 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,960 Ector County. Two years ago the appraisal district went through and 625 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:10,580 re-appraised and we went from extremely low property by use, which I can 626 00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:15,460 understand bringing them up where they need to be. But instantly went to 627 00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:28,960 high market value property values, 2024 to 2025, my property tax increased 106% 628 00:48:30,370 --> 00:48:39,300 25 to 26, another 30% I'm not sure if you're aware of the way the 629 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:45,400 cap extension laws with the state work, next year is the exemption goes away. 630 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:57,600 Is that another 30% on top of it, bringing our taxes that we actually pay to the county up to almost 200% increase over a three-year period? 631 00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:03,220 Did you contest these with the appraisal district? 632 00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:07,920 Yes, that was the best, my second bullet point that I would like the commissioners to look into. 633 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,120 Okay? 634 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:17,240 They're hearing when you walk in and you sit down across from a board of realtors. 635 00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:20,720 That's who's hearing my case. 636 00:49:22,210 --> 00:49:24,050 That is a conflict of interest. 637 00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:30,110 They make more money if the property values are higher in their regular careers. 638 00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:35,970 So I would like you guys to look into that and see if we can come up with a way to fix that 639 00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:36,550 as well. 640 00:49:36,550 --> 00:49:40,830 where when we do go into those hearings, we have a chance at a fair trial. 641 00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:44,170 That's all I have. 642 00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:45,310 Thank you. 643 00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:46,070 Thank you. 644 00:49:46,270 --> 00:49:46,890 Thank you. 645 00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:50,550 I will say one thing on the appraisal district. 646 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,500 I will say one thing on the appraisal district, the Texas legislature did make a 647 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:56,700 modification in state law. 648 00:49:56,860 --> 00:50:01,240 They did add three elected positions to every appraisal district. 649 00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:04,340 Inector County, they had those three positions up. 650 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,820 Nobody filed to run. 651 00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:08,260 I think that that would be a terrific one. 652 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,780 I would love to see, since you care about this issue, 653 00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:14,920 which is, I think, everybody, run for those positions. 654 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:16,860 It's kind of who draws the short straw 655 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,960 and who gets appointed to that. 656 00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:21,400 So that is something that the legislature created. 657 00:50:21,740 --> 00:50:22,700 It was in a special session. 658 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,300 It was in the middle of a non-typical legislative time frame, 659 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:28,620 but they did add those positions. 660 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,120 And so that is something that I would look, 661 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,680 if you're interested in, you can always reach out to me 662 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,060 and we can kind of punch in the right direction. 663 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,640 Yes, absolutely. 664 00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:48,420 Okay, so for those that don't know, there are a lot of titles to a lot of entities and a lot of those titles could be actor county plus. 665 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:57,940 So you see the actor county appraisal district, you see the actor county school district, you see the actor county us and other actor county utility district. 666 00:50:57,940 --> 00:51:04,980 We're not all associated. We're all different taxing entities. We don't have oversight or control over what they do. 667 00:51:05,860 --> 00:51:15,380 So sometimes the misinformation is assuming that we have any oversight over those other entities we don't. 668 00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,300 So I just wanted to make it clarifying statement. 669 00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:19,920 Thank you, Commissioner Hall. 670 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,100 Okay. We do have Scott Johnson. 671 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,900 Thank you, Mr. Johnson. 672 00:51:29,790 --> 00:51:31,690 That concludes our public participation. 673 00:51:32,530 --> 00:51:33,470 Would you like to say something? 674 00:51:33,550 --> 00:51:34,210 Yes, absolutely. 675 00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:38,690 First of all, I just want to say thank you for everyone that came tonight. 676 00:51:38,890 --> 00:51:39,550 I know you're tired. 677 00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:41,050 I know you came from work. 678 00:51:41,650 --> 00:51:43,170 Thank you for showing up. 679 00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:45,610 It's a pleasure to have you here. 680 00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:47,990 I know a lot of times you can't come in the day. 681 00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:50,170 It's great to have everyone here. 682 00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:54,770 Also, we'll say the judge made some points. 683 00:51:54,990 --> 00:51:59,870 I don't agree with them, 100% we did work very hard on the budget, but I do think that we 684 00:51:59,870 --> 00:52:04,530 can still make some cuts and I think that we can save more than the few dollars that we're 685 00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:05,390 looking at right now. 686 00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:10,930 So I hope tomorrow that we can do that and thank you again for showing us now. 687 00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:11,950 Okay. 688 00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:15,240 There you go. 689 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:16,740 All right. 690 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:20,140 I will entertain, oh, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. 691 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:21,000 Thank you, Ms. Prentice. 692 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,640 Motion by Commissioner Russell. 693 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:24,920 Second by Commissioner Simmons. 694 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,360 And for the discussion, I'll as per person if I'm by saying aye. 695 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,120 I'll as opposed to the same sound motion cast five zero. 696 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,900 I'll entertain a motion. 697 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,200 22 adjourned. Motion by Commissioner Gardner, second by Commissioner Russell and your further discussion. All in favor, 698 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:39,980 say to five by saying aye. All in favor. That's the same sign. Motion passed by to you. Thank you folks. 699 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:41,100 We appreciate you all.