1 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Let me remind everybody today is the combined meeting of July 20th's work session and combined meeting. Today is a 2 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,400 approval of our budget. We have a budget on a list that's why you see more people here today. We were 3 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,540 caucusing just now to make sure we have a quorum, but also a quorum that passed the budget. So at 4 00:00:43,540 --> 00:00:49,640 this time we're waiting for a member to come so we can pass the budget, which is most important 5 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,840 today's meeting sites. I'm sorry for the delay. It was starting earlier. We were 20 minutes late, 6 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,820 and I do apologize and hope you understand. 7 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,820 We all please rise for the pledge allegiance. 8 00:01:02,820 --> 00:01:07,660 to the All-Nation organization, 9 00:01:07,660 --> 00:01:12,660 and then the physical with liberty and oats as for all. 10 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:17,980 Fortелis. 11 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Madam Clerk, Roquel. 12 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,820 Council Member Brecher. 13 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,380 You're? 14 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Council Member Deima. 15 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,040 You're? 16 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,100 Council Member Cantos. 17 00:01:25,860 --> 00:01:26,840 Council Member Patil. 18 00:01:27,660 --> 00:01:28,840 Council Member Patil. 19 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,680 Council Member Schmwell, Council President Coil. 20 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:33,000 Yes. 21 00:01:35,790 --> 00:01:36,550 Add a quick notice. 22 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:53,750 Add a quick notice of this meeting as required by the Open Public Meeting Act of 1975 has been provided by an annual notice and to the home news tribune to start a ledger and does he talk on November 17th, 2025 and posted in the main lobby of the municipal complex on that same date. 23 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:55,950 Thank you, Madam Clerk. 24 00:01:56,810 --> 00:02:01,170 Before I begin I just want to share with everyone at first-year first-time here, you will 25 00:02:01,170 --> 00:02:06,810 get a chance to speak at the part with the resolutions on the consent agenda. 26 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:11,210 You can speak on the resolution for four minutes and you can also speak on anything like 27 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:13,730 at the open public part of this meeting. 28 00:02:13,930 --> 00:02:18,990 If you're watching from home and you want to see what is the agenda, you can see on the council 29 00:02:18,990 --> 00:02:24,250 part of the agenda and look for Council meeting in NC Council agenda and you can look it up 30 00:02:24,250 --> 00:02:26,850 from there and you can also watch it on YouTube this meeting. 31 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:32,210 So thank you all for joining us from Palmer here today, and thank you for being here. 32 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Clerk, Clerk Read Resolution? 33 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,260 Where as to red says syndrome is a neurological disorder characterized by involuntary 34 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:51,240 motor and vocal ticks that affects approximately one in 50 individuals. 35 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:58,160 And whereas despite its prevalent Tourette syndrome remains widely misunderstood and increased 36 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,620 awareness helps reduce stigma while promoting understanding acceptance and inclusion. 37 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:10,700 And whereas June 4th was established as Tourette syndrome awareness day in the state of 38 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:15,480 New Jersey through legislation signed by Governor Phil Murphy in 2018. 39 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:33,060 And whereas the New Jersey Center for Terrets Syndrome and JCTS provides education, advocacy, and support to individuals and families throughout Edison and partners with local agencies to provide crisis intervention team training for first responders. 40 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:44,020 Whereas the township of Edison recognizes the importance of fostering a welcoming and inclusive community where all residents are treated with dignity, understanding and respect. 41 00:03:44,020 --> 00:03:50,380 Now, therefore, be resolved by the Municipal Council of the Township of Edison that June 4th 42 00:03:50,380 --> 00:03:56,180 be recognized as to red syndrome, awareness day, and encourages all residents to learn 43 00:03:56,180 --> 00:04:01,460 more about to red syndrome, promote understanding, and support individuals and families 44 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:03,780 affected by T.S. 45 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Thank you, Madam Clerk. 46 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,340 At this time, we're at over this resolution for public comment, if anybody like to speak 47 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:14,020 on this resolution, can you come to the podium and speak on this resolution only 48 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:20,730 for some 49 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:21,010 reason? 50 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:22,190 Please, yes. 51 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:22,830 Of course. 52 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:25,350 Okay. 53 00:04:26,610 --> 00:04:30,030 Good afternoon, Mr. Kualen and members of the Township Committee. 54 00:04:30,610 --> 00:04:35,310 On behalf of my family, the New Jersey Center for Tourette Syndrome and the many families here 55 00:04:35,310 --> 00:04:40,950 in Edison that are affected by Tourette Syndrome, we would like to sincerely thank you 56 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:46,110 for recognizing Tourette Syndrome Awareness Month and presenting us with this 57 00:04:46,110 --> 00:04:52,270 resolution. This actually means a lot more to me than that it works 58 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:56,810 can express. I'm not just an employee of the New Jersey Center for 59 00:04:56,810 --> 00:05:02,290 Tourette Syndrome, I'm also a parent of Sun's Tourette. So this recognition is 60 00:05:02,290 --> 00:05:07,740 deeply personal to me. Turin Syndrome is a neurological disorder that kind of 61 00:05:08,210 --> 00:05:14,550 displays on the way of unvalentary movements, motor and vocal ticks. And it affects 62 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:21,550 as you mentioned one and fifty individuals. And one in a hundred school, eight children make it so far 63 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:26,350 so it's really common. It's more common that we actually think about. While the ticks are the most 64 00:05:26,350 --> 00:05:33,710 visible to the individual, Tourette Syndrome comes with other comorbid disorders such as OCD, ADHD, 65 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:42,510 depression, anxiety, and some learning disabilities. So sometimes these can be more challenging the actual 66 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:42,930 tax. 67 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:49,150 To add syndrome is often misunderstood, there is no test, there is no cure as of right 68 00:05:49,150 --> 00:05:52,990 now, and there is no medicine for it as well. 69 00:05:53,910 --> 00:05:58,710 There are some therapies that can help, but there's really nothing right now rather than 70 00:05:59,830 --> 00:06:06,210 CBIT training and some medicine that can be given for other comorbid disorders. 71 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:17,930 By recognizing the Center of Awareness, you're helping to create a community where children and adults living with CS are seeing supportive and included. 72 00:06:18,610 --> 00:06:27,210 Thank you so much for taking the time to acknowledge this important class and for helping the community become more informed supportive and inclusive. 73 00:06:27,870 --> 00:06:36,190 If you have any questions, please let me know if we encourage you to visit our website and just learn a little bit more about it. 74 00:06:36,190 --> 00:06:40,310 Thank you so much. We appreciate your time, your support, and your recognition. 75 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:42,110 Thank you. 76 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:48,000 You're both allowed to speak for four minutes each. But if you're good, 77 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:52,620 okay, just want to make sure that, okay, thank you. Is anybody else from the public 78 00:06:52,620 --> 00:06:59,120 like to speak on the resolution only for Tourette's? Okay. Seeing none, I'll take a 79 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,340 motion called the public portion. Motion to close the public portion? Second. 80 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:07,440 You've made a motion. Second. I didn't hear a first. Did you give me first? 81 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,580 Council President. Okay. 82 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:16,900 I asked for a motion. I didn't motion motion close the public portion on fair to say aye. 83 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:21,560 Any council comments? 84 00:07:22,980 --> 00:07:23,460 On the resolution. 85 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:27,760 Motion to adopt. 86 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,300 Motion to adopt. 87 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:42,620 I just want to thank both of you for coming and making more awareness of threats. I've had some experience 88 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:49,420 through your foundation and through those you've been meeting along your trail of being informed of this issue. 89 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:59,780 I hope that more people get involved, not knowing being a parent as you're the best advocate to certainly push this forward and make more people aware. 90 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:04,660 So thank you for bringing us to our attention and help more people get involved. 91 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:05,840 All right. 92 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,860 I'm going to present to you now, right? 93 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:09,440 You guys can come up to the podium. 94 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,220 We'll stand. 95 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:13,940 You guys want to come down for a mention. 96 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:15,180 Everybody. 97 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:19,420 If you guys have a camera, we'll take a picture. 98 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Just do you want to grab? 99 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:22,980 All right. 100 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:27,300 If you can't 101 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:51,980 remember us and thank you for joining us. 102 00:09:51,980 --> 00:10:08,080 The next part of this meeting may be a little long and if you don't want to stay, you don't have to, but here, we're not throwing you out, but you won't be the first, you won't be the first that receive the resolution left because it can get quite long, but thank you again for joining us. 103 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:08,580 All right, 104 00:10:44,650 --> 00:10:52,050 members of the council and those who are here today, I'm going to be moving to the moving down the agenda and leaving the budget. 105 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:57,330 Last of Oda and we are short of member to vote on this budget three of our members are not here today 106 00:10:58,090 --> 00:11:01,810 unusual I'm certain there were circumstances of why they could not be here 107 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:08,390 And I just it was not a fine at a 550 that beer potato cannot be here and 108 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:13,170 We cannot retone of our other members. So we apologize for that, but I will 109 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:17,650 Push this down hopefully be able to gain 20 minutes and 110 00:11:17,650 --> 00:11:24,470 We can pass this budget if this budget is not voted on today. We'll have to reintroduce this budget. 111 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:32,070 It may just pass to the clerk to the B.A. What would be our circumstances if we do not pass the budget today? 112 00:11:32,650 --> 00:11:38,330 Councillor President, as I mentioned previously, the further we push this along, we would be issuing furloughs. 113 00:11:38,670 --> 00:11:42,650 That would be the other option because we would not be able to take this budget past. 114 00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:50,130 the temporary emergency appropriations take us to the end of the month, this month. 115 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:55,890 I just wanted to confirm with our CFO, so that would be our other option to further 116 00:11:55,890 --> 00:12:01,870 unless the council wishes to put on a special meeting before the end of the month. 117 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:05,110 And by statute, you have to issue for the most correct? 118 00:12:05,330 --> 00:12:05,630 Yes. 119 00:12:06,410 --> 00:12:15,120 All right, so we're going to move this budget down as we vote to hope some members may 120 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,360 show up. 121 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,060 Council President. 122 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,260 Yeah. 123 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:19,020 Okay. 124 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:20,960 Council President. 125 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:21,440 Okay. 126 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:27,420 Would that be an option, a special meeting if we don't, yes, there will be the option. 127 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:34,720 I'm hoping that the option, I'm hopeful that a member will be shortly and we'll be 128 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,500 able to vote on the budget. 129 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:42,600 But we are on the work session right now, so I'm just going to go through the budget as we speak for now and then we will move it down during the voting session. 130 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:51,540 Okay, so the twenty twenty six calendar year budget municipal budget and the solid waste budget A, B, C. 131 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,560 Can you counsel comments on the budget. 132 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,960 Council president. 133 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:57,740 Council member pressure. 134 00:12:58,140 --> 00:12:58,760 You have the floor. 135 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:04,800 Just to say I want to acknowledge that I did receive the amended budget right today. 136 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:13,800 But I think it was unfair because it was a 450 drop or whatever to us. 137 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:21,300 I didn't get it with my packet, so that's a new of which really didn't get to look at. 138 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,280 But as you know, with our general budget, I thought we could have some cuts. 139 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,560 I don't believe furloughs are needed to have those cuts. 140 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:41,580 I've requested a copy of the easy pass for the town, which I believe is in excess of $300,000. 141 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,240 And the additional fuel that we've spent by allowing people to have taken cars, 142 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:50,260 and I assessed that to be about 700,000. 143 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,900 Now, my numbers could be wrong. 144 00:13:53,420 --> 00:13:57,800 Okay, they're just gone by average things, but I've asked for this information. 145 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:06,040 you're aware of that, and I have not received the line items that those two items are in on 146 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,060 the budget. So I'm not a fan of the way the budget sets. I'm not a fan that I haven't gotten. 147 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,400 You know, that information, as I said in Councilman, I think I should have gotten that this is in line 148 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,140 36075 that I can then verify that that was taken out. I could see the gallons of gas that were used 149 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:28,200 during the Lanky administration, and then from two years ago, 150 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,640 I mean, it's a simple math equation. 151 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,880 I'm not looking to get to the penny, 152 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:34,240 but I'm assessing that we could be in their excess 153 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,800 of a million dollars in savings. 154 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,020 And I haven't received it, so I'm not happy about that, 155 00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:41,960 and I'm also not happy that this got dropped on me 156 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,600 at the last moment. 157 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:46,640 So I'm not really a fan of the budget way 158 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,460 it sets, and I've explained that too. 159 00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:59,980 And another question I have here for solidly municipal budget, okay, no, it's not here, but I was wondering 160 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,480 I mean you bet the sewer budget? 161 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:04,740 That's fine, Council President. 162 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:12,860 Council member, the amendments were-the order and state recommendations of amendments and there were 163 00:15:12,860 --> 00:15:17,240 line-in and amendments, it wasn't changing any numbers, financially on the budget 164 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,840 upper down. And I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to explain that to you, but would you 165 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,340 like hear from the B.A.? We also said the order it hear to discuss those amendments, 166 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:28,560 and I apologize you didn't get that in time. 167 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:39,280 So I hear correct, and that this was just a line item movement from related to our separation 168 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,720 of social security charges from the utility out into the operating account. 169 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,100 So that was just a financial function of the budget, just a moving line item to line item. 170 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:56,280 Additionally, I did send Councilman Brecher back on May 20th, all of the information that 171 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:04,080 requested is question regarding the easy pass. I said we don't have that calculated because 172 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:10,400 it's a new charge altogether for this year. So that has not been equated. It was not 173 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:18,980 equated in the past and I did explain that to him and I followed up with him June 1st say if 174 00:16:18,980 --> 00:16:21,700 he had any further questions and I did not hear back. 175 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:27,340 And Council President, looking for, right, it was really simple. 176 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,140 The easy pass that we paid when Lanky was mayor, which you would have access to. 177 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,940 The easy pass charges that we paid for last four years also, so that I could see an apple 178 00:16:38,940 --> 00:16:44,260 and an apple, because when the new administration came in, they allowed like 100 cars to 179 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:45,160 go home with people. 180 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,920 We all know that 100 cars go on home, and these aren't people living in an Edison, right? 181 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,900 are people that are an hour away from here, right? And with the exorbitant fuel 182 00:16:54,900 --> 00:17:01,480 cost now, yes, it's substantial. So I didn't see anything about the gallons. I didn't 183 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,500 see the easy past. You did respond and you said that that's in the police department's 184 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:10,140 budget. But the police department technically works for you and the mayor. So therefore, 185 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,160 when I asked for those gallons, I should have that. Okay, I shouldn't get a dismissive answer 186 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,560 which is what I felt I had, so I didn't see all the easy passes so I could verify, right? 187 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,000 I get an easy pass statement, anybody in the stream that gets easy pass statement, I know 188 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,700 if you got it on an exit, 130 and you got it off an exit, 17, right? It's very simple. 189 00:17:33,020 --> 00:17:38,440 I got none of this. The public, you can open the emails and you'll see, I didn't get any of this. 190 00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:45,200 So I'm sorry, I didn't get what I requested by telling me that the police department has it is 191 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,000 I'm not an answer. It's not my job to go to the police department. That's the administration's function. 192 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,880 But because of that, I'm still unhappy with it. 193 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Thank you. Thanks, President. 194 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,260 Our customers, if you're ready to say you would you be voting for the budget? 195 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,660 What's this increase? 196 00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:08,700 If they showed me that they took good money out of the current budget. 197 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:15,100 So if they showed me that during Lanky's time we used 1,000 gallons of gasoline, we allowed 198 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:20,120 take home cars which increased it to 2,000 gallons of gasoline and now we're cutting it back 199 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:25,040 to 1,000 dollars and they say, Councilman, right here in the police budget under fuel, 200 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,580 this is the reduction. 201 00:18:27,820 --> 00:18:31,920 I'll tell you what, then I see that we are, our belt is tight, but I don't see that and I 202 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,920 haven't gotten it and it was a real simple ask. 203 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:40,360 So, because of that, yeah, I don't feel comfortable in voting on this budget the way it is. 204 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,920 That would be it for that one. 205 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,300 The council member, someone discussed the budget. 206 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:04,610 Council. 207 00:19:07,330 --> 00:19:15,710 I heard Mr. Brecher and I do understand his point, and I can fight with him on certain support on that. 208 00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:21,650 And it is challenging to see Clarks go home, however, we also have had to increase in crime 209 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:26,470 and I would have had to increase in patrol, so many other things that have manipulated 210 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:27,170 that number. 211 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:30,990 But nothing for our exceeds people taking Clarks home and we know that. 212 00:19:31,290 --> 00:19:37,190 In fact, we can't get a line item answer, it's challenging and that's something I'll look 213 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:39,950 to see where we can get there for your councilman. 214 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:45,010 But at whole, we're in July, and if we were to find this cut, 215 00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:49,870 what it may be, let's just say it's 450,000 in easy pass, 216 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:55,430 it's 300,000 dollars in additional gas that we are calculating based on a lot of things that have 217 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:59,410 merit and don't have merit, because you can base an employee account, you're to base it on how many 218 00:19:59,410 --> 00:20:03,750 cars are in the road, how many people we're hard between that time and this time and have it retired. 219 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:09,290 But you'll still get somewhat of a number, and if that number was 600,000, 220 00:20:09,290 --> 00:20:15,590 and we cut the budget 600,000 today, that budget cut would only be about 270,000. 221 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:17,290 And I just want to explain that to those. 222 00:20:17,650 --> 00:20:22,630 But whatever we cut right now is about 60% of what that cut may be. 223 00:20:22,770 --> 00:20:28,690 It's we don't get that full 100% of that cut because we're already into the spending of month 7 going at the month 8. 224 00:20:29,010 --> 00:20:30,410 And I just want to explain that. 225 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:34,290 But I do think this our committee has sat down multiple times. 226 00:20:34,290 --> 00:20:40,350 So I give every member a chance to look at cuts and what we came up with is every cut we 227 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:42,870 make would be less surplus to have for the following year. 228 00:20:43,490 --> 00:20:47,710 So at this time, if we were to cut the budget, we're going to pay for it now, we're going 229 00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:48,590 to pay for it more later. 230 00:20:48,730 --> 00:20:53,070 And this is just the obvious, it's just how spending goes for each line item and each department. 231 00:20:53,730 --> 00:21:00,750 If we give someone 100% of their money in 2026 and they spend 70% which is pretty much a boundary 232 00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:04,030 that happens all the time, that 30% goes to the surplus. 233 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:07,750 and we have that surplus that kick off our budget before we raise taxes. 234 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:16,110 So if any council member decides to cut back at that 30%, it'll be 5% less that goes into that 235 00:21:16,790 --> 00:21:22,250 pot for surplus. And eventually we'll be burdened to the taxpayers. And as we look at 236 00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:28,370 raising taxes, which is taxes is 4.4% for this missile budget. As we look at as a whole, 237 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:37,410 And each resident at a home value in about $675,000, which is the total value of their property. 238 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:39,810 It's not the assessed value, it's assessed much later. 239 00:21:40,530 --> 00:21:42,470 It's about $130 per person. 240 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:45,910 So, and that means a lot to a family, and I know that. 241 00:21:46,210 --> 00:21:51,590 But when we cut this budget, we also cut it for those who are the stakeholders of our town 242 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:54,750 that make a huge difference in that $44%. 243 00:21:54,750 --> 00:22:02,370 So whereas I may save you as a resident $130, but I'm saving a large corporation $150,000. 244 00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:05,830 And that's, we're fortunate to have those big tax payers. 245 00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:12,130 So we make effects somewhere in the chain of how Edison has such a great tax revenue. 246 00:22:12,150 --> 00:22:13,730 We have over $7 billion in it. 247 00:22:13,890 --> 00:22:15,290 Is it $7 billion in tax revenue? 248 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:18,770 We have a tax revenue, about $7 billion 249 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:24,450 in a tax revenue. 250 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:25,870 So you have to look at that as a whole. 251 00:22:25,870 --> 00:22:29,970 I don't just count anything that... 252 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,120 Specialist says what he says is true. We want to make cuts, but I just want to explain how the 253 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:39,900 budget was forward. But in this budget itself, when you look at the great things we've 254 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:47,260 done in this budget, our public safety remains the same, no cuts. Our fire and personnel remains 255 00:22:47,260 --> 00:22:54,180 the same, no cuts. Our public worst department remains the same in no cuts. The services alone 256 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:59,520 of those three departments or so demanding any taxpayer will tell you how comfortably 257 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,560 feel that public safety and medicine New Jersey is far better than so many of the towns 258 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,280 across this county and this state. When you look at our senior services or health department, 259 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,760 some of them are here today and thank you for being here. Our health department covers a lot of 260 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:23,720 great things in senior services and in critical needs across this town. Nonetheless, our restaurants and 261 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,980 with great things they do to keep our electrons open, 262 00:23:26,060 --> 00:23:28,720 but licenced in different things they do. 263 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:30,960 So if you look at across the board, 264 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800 I think we've had a good tolerance in every department. 265 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,020 And it was challenging to listen to the 75 line-in 266 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,120 and questions on the South sent to me 267 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,820 in the four or five different means 268 00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:46,720 we had together for three or four hours. 269 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,760 And Councilman, you did a great job, 270 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,860 but a lot of questions you've had. 271 00:23:50,860 --> 00:23:58,360 But all in all when you look at this budget, you know, for uniform services, for retirement, for tax appeals, 272 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:07,340 but you see in our agenda today, you know, we are solid when it comes to forecasting how many tax appeals will have for the following year. 273 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:15,020 It makes sure that cushion sits at a certain number so that when we get hit in a certain market, we're prepared. 274 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:21,120 and our assessors here in the back Joanne, and their team does an excellent job with people 275 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:27,520 come to compromise their taxes and appeal us, they do an excellent job making sure you're 276 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:33,040 stable in that corner. Our pensioner benefits, same thing, our insurance that we have. 277 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:38,800 Each line of them has to have a reputable number to compensate what that number may anticipate 278 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:45,000 to be. So all over when we look at this budget together, I think we've done a great job 279 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,060 and leaving it where it is at this race is where I stand to support it. 280 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 I'm sorry other members are not here today to vote on this budget. 281 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:58,080 This budget may have to be delayed and again I'm hopeful a member who's having a difficult 282 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,400 time and traffic and will be here later but that is my position if you have questions 283 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,440 when public comment you may speak as well. 284 00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:09,860 I want to thank the members of the council including my council calling Kelly Deema who 285 00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:15,000 I also spent a lot of time in this Council of Vice President Kentos who put a lot of time as well. 286 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,320 And Councilman Beer, Patel, Council of AGB, Councilman Brescher and all our team. 287 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,860 So thank you. 288 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,860 There's really any other comments from the members of the Council. 289 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:27,940 While we're in the work session. 290 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:29,920 Hearing none, we're going to move on. 291 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:37,040 We're going to move on to seven unfinished business ordinance consideration for public hearing and final adoption. 292 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Any questions or comments on the tree a minute council president. I know that other council colleagues 293 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,940 Want to all weigh in on this could this be pushed to our next meeting? 294 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,420 Well, I mean we have I think 295 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,980 It's a good idea 296 00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:07,300 But we have the votes voted down now, so I don't know if I'd want to do that because I didn't support it to begin with 297 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:10,400 So you put him in an awkward corner. 298 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,680 No, listen, I would never, I would never. 299 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:14,320 I mean, I just want to be fair. 300 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:15,480 No, no, that's nothing. 301 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 As members thought it, you could vote it down. 302 00:26:18,780 --> 00:26:21,600 Okay, that bamboo grew through everybody's property in their neighborhood. 303 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,380 You could vote it. 304 00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:24,980 That majority is not here. 305 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:26,620 No, but you know, it is with bamboo. 306 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:27,120 I understand. 307 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:31,220 So the attorneys heard everything of our grites, right? 308 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,640 Of what our reason is that we wanted this repealed. 309 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,040 So we're looking for an answer, but here we are, months later, we're going to table here. 310 00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:42,080 You're going to table it. 311 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,860 Just as a courtesy. 312 00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:44,300 No. 313 00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:46,040 I'm not asking for a courtesy. 314 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,480 That's in a courtesy for me. 315 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,560 Were you voting in favor of it to, what was your vote? 316 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,120 Well, I was going to vote to get rid of the ordinance until I could get the Wafferm to 317 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:04,360 make the new amendments to it, because I've been waiting four or five months hearing 318 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,400 we're going to change this. 319 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,140 So you have a couple of options right now. 320 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,860 We can go through the normal course of business and vote on it. 321 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,160 You can make a motion to table it and we can table it until the next meeting if everyone agrees. 322 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:26,480 We can discuss it during the work council session and then during the regular session. 323 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480 We can take either of those approaches as well. 324 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:34,380 So, either one of those, any of those are viable options. 325 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:40,100 Well, okay, why don't we try and table, but I understand the big problem that we have is that this 326 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:45,620 dispute that when me and you live next door to each other and you plant the bamboo and 327 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:52,040 accrue on my property and now, a soft buys your property and he comes in and he wipes it out, 328 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:57,040 but now he complains to the town that my bamboo, but it's not my bamboo, it's your bamboo, right? 329 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:13,500 So, so how do we protect those people now I have no problem if once we establish that you are the guy that planted the bamboo I got no problem and I can explain that so our purpose and I think I tried to get into this the the last time that we discussed it. 330 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:26,940 Our purpose is to enforce the ordinances that we can enforce right so if we go out to a property because a neighbor calls us out and says his bamboo is growing on to our property and we send out a notice of violation. 331 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:33,220 it doesn't get cleaned up and it's because of exactly that situation, that's violation 332 00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:37,980 if it does in fact get written. If the zoning officer or the health department officer decides 333 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:43,900 to write the violation anyway, goes to the municipal court. And the judge has to say, okay, 334 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,200 prove to me where this bamboo is coming from. There's evidence that it already existed, 335 00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:53,780 not that it's the neighbor that you wrote it for. You have to prove as the municipality, 336 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,360 that it's actually encroaching and not pre-existing, and if I can't do that or if the 337 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:08,260 prosecutor can't do that, it gets dismissed. And if along the way, there is a failure 338 00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:17,020 in discretion to say, I can't prove this, then ultimately it gets dismissed. Now, that's 339 00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:22,260 part of it, and that's the same, like Bamboo is a trigger word, almost, for a lot 340 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:27,680 people, but that's the same with any of our ordinances, where there's tall grass here. 341 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:33,160 Well, that's not my property line, and then the health department doesn't have the ability 342 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:39,260 to go and check property records and deeds to say, hey, I'm going to write it to this person 343 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:44,720 anyway. Well, what they have is a problem and they want that problem resolved. Our goal isn't 344 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,560 revenue generation. It's not punishment. It's compliance to make sure that the ordinances 345 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,200 are followed, that the township stays a beautiful place to live, and that these things get cleaned up. 346 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,240 So in that case, but I haven't... 347 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,960 It's not using Google Earth on anything. 348 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Any of these, like in the fines that we sent out to the people? 349 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Well, we had to tell you, fines out to people. We sent by most of the people. 350 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:15,480 You can client, right, for them to remove it. But in that, there's no proof that we're showing them that they even own the bamboo. 351 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:19,060 And the guy came to whatever six, seven meetings going, it's not my bamboo. 352 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:29,480 And yet, we are unable as a body, right, to say, here's the proof, right, that bamboo has been in your yard since 2001. 353 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,260 one, and you can go back on Google Earth for almost anything. 354 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,360 So maybe it's the way we're implementing it, and our law needs to be changed. 355 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,200 It says the township administration has to bring it with Google Earth. 356 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640 What I'm saying is, there's a problem, right? 357 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,860 And I know you're not dissolving the problem. 358 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,360 And I know you're not the one in the municipal court, council, but I haven't. 359 00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:59,420 And I've seen those printouts where it shows pictures from Google Street View 360 00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:06,440 Google Earth from 2018, 2019, 2020, where it shows where the bamboo started or it doesn't 361 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,000 show that. 362 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,640 And I've had those conversations, and sometimes they're difficult conversations, both with 363 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,380 property owners, with people who are receiving the violations, and with the health department 364 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:21,740 officials, where in zoning officials, where it's, I don't have the proof to push this forward, 365 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:26,460 and you're not going to get what you're looking for here in this scenario. 366 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,260 that never precludes them from pursuing a civil remedy if they need to. If you have 367 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,320 neighbors and they're disputing where the bamboo comes from, someone needs to 368 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,660 spend the money between those two neighbors to dig up the yard and find where those 369 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:45,980 roots are coming from. They may need to spend the money to dig a trench on their 370 00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:49,280 own property and then try to collect that money from their neighbor. That's a 371 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:55,520 civil dispute that doesn't involve the township. Now if they spend the money and 372 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,580 have the landscaper come out and they dig the trenches and they have all the proof for us. 373 00:31:59,740 --> 00:32:04,640 That makes our job a lot easier to say, hey, we don't care what you do, but we're going 374 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,140 to find you if we're not taking care of it. 375 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800 Councillor Gretchen, you just point a point and we're going to table it, all right. 376 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:11,020 Thank you. 377 00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:12,340 Thank you. 378 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,300 Thank you. 379 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:15,300 It's like September. 380 00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:21,300 Thank you. 381 00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:28,730 Thank you. 382 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,520 Thank you. 383 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:34,620 Thank you. 384 00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:34,700 Thank you. 385 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,260 Thank you. 386 00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:35,540 Thank you. 387 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,580 And if in the meantime, you have recommendations or suggestions for how to amend it rather 388 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:47,740 than eliminate entirely, please reach out and send us something so that we can address 389 00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:48,080 those. 390 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,480 Okay, I'm going to tell you this. 391 00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:54,560 I'm going to tell you this, because I'm going to send you residents that are here tonight. 392 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,200 I have here more about bamboo. 393 00:32:56,620 --> 00:33:01,720 I have written and then what ended up happening was you guys took it and you did your 394 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,660 own thing with it. 395 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:14,900 So after that scenario, I rely on you guys to, you know what I'm looking for, write it up, make it happen, but that's the only thing. 396 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:15,640 All right, I'm good. 397 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,260 Thank you. 398 00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:17,040 Sure, Richard? 399 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:17,900 Yes. 400 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,220 All right. 401 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,280 We're moving on to a review of the consent agenda and resolutions. 402 00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:33,140 We're adding, which is on the, it's in the general meeting, but we're adding in the work session, the firefighter, 403 00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:36,260 for a rare engine number one, Tyler Melinger. 404 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,480 He's added, I say, volunteer to the work session. 405 00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:40,540 Any question of comments? 406 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,140 Finally, did you just get the review of minutes? 407 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,900 I'm going to skip them for you, did it work? 408 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:46,480 I'll go, OK. 409 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,360 OK, so I want to add that. 410 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,440 And also, we're going to do an eight, 411 00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:52,840 is the review of the minutes for a June 10th. 412 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,580 Any question of comments? 413 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640 Here and none, we're going to go to the entire agenda 414 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:03,260 for any question of comments for 415 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:13,310 the entire agenda. 416 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:23,810 So, nine, ABCD-EF-G-H-I-J-K-L-M-N, any questions or comments from the Department of Finance? 417 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:29,230 Yes, one question, top golf. 418 00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:31,470 I guess they filed an appeal. 419 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:36,510 You know, that we're going to give them a tax appeal. 420 00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:41,390 I thought that originally was for the entire property number one. 421 00:34:41,390 --> 00:34:47,890 That's where my question was, so thank you for clarifying that it's really just, this is just top golf alone. 422 00:34:47,890 --> 00:34:48,350 Correct. 423 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:53,190 Right, because when I see the number, the number just was too small for the entire property. 424 00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:56,610 So, thank you for getting me that. 425 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:58,030 That would be a council president. 426 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,760 I just declare a fight for I for top golf. 427 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,800 Their settlement is $593,000. 428 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:10,460 Is that correct? 429 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:11,400 Yes, sir. 430 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:18,740 Okay, so that's, but that's a breakdown of 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025. 431 00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:24,020 So that's, that is, well, over seven years. 432 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,820 So seven divided by six hundred thousand is there discount that they got. 433 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,460 So that's what it, okay? Correct. 434 00:35:31,860 --> 00:35:34,260 More or less, yes. More or less, more or less. 435 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,820 More or less, more or less, we're withdrawals. 436 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:36,220 We're roughly. 437 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,400 Okay. Great. 438 00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:41,900 Any questions or comments, again, from the Department of Finance, 439 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,240 for the resolutions? 440 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,060 Here are none, we're move on to the Department of Health, number 10, A, any questions or comments? 441 00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:59,910 Here are none, we're going to the Department of Public Works, any questions or comments on A, B, C, D, E, and F? 442 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:00,250 The 443 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,690 Department of Planning and Engineering, any questions or comments, 444 00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:25,690 A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, U, N, R, any questions or comments? 445 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:28,870 Council President. Yes, yes, Council President. 446 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:34,550 How does this work to the VA? 447 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:38,570 Could you tell me how this works exactly? 448 00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:45,870 So, there's goes to the planning board, they do a study, and then it comes back here. 449 00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:47,830 Yes, correct. 450 00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:53,470 So, you're delegating the planning board to now do the study. 451 00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:58,190 And what are the nuts and bolts on the study? 452 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Is that? 453 00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:06,120 I'll defer to, it depends on what the plan of board is looking to have done. 454 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:19,080 Yeah, so under the Mr. Lannus law, the requirement to send it to them to conduct that study 455 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:26,600 make a determination sets forth specific criteria that they have to review and essentially 456 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,900 create a report that then gets sent back to the council. 457 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:46,000 To say, is this abandoned property? Is this neglected property? Does this property have certain issues with it that fall under the categories in the MLUL that say, it is an area in need of redevelopment? 458 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,700 go through it, but there's like 13 separate categories of qualifying properties, depending 459 00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:57,340 on the rehabilitation sought, and depending on the redevelopment that is planned. 460 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,420 So once that goes to the planning board, they conduct their study, that's done by professionals 461 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:11,260 who generate, and I don't know if you've seen them before, but usually it's a rather extensive 462 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:17,000 report that takes pictures of each property that goes through the block-and-lot, the owners, 463 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:24,280 any history with the property of violations, any current issues that are readily observable, 464 00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,560 whether or not they're able to gain access to the property, whether or not they're able to 465 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,180 speak with the property owners, and then they run through it all and send it back to the council 466 00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:37,700 for a review and then to take the vote either approving the area and rebuildment or not. 467 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:47,580 So it's a very comprehensive process because the MLU is very specific about what the requirements are to meet those standards. 468 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:55,840 More importantly, Councilman, before anything, you'll be able to review the report and ask questions if necessary. 469 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:06,620 I think I have an old one from two years ago that I could possibly send you, if I can locate it, 470 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:11,260 if you'd like, that way you can get some ideas to what gets done before you get your hands on this one, 471 00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:15,760 because it's sometimes taken a little bit of time for them to actually get one done, 472 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,320 but that'll at least give you an idea of what you're looking for. 473 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,280 Thank you. 474 00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:28,750 Any other questions or comments? 475 00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:29,850 Here we go. 476 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:32,150 We're going to go to 13 the Department of Recreation. 477 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:33,470 Wait. 478 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:34,490 Council President. 479 00:39:36,130 --> 00:39:36,550 I'm sure. 480 00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:37,470 You want to roll back? 481 00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:38,010 No problem. 482 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:38,430 Yes. 483 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:39,410 So that. 484 00:39:39,630 --> 00:39:40,470 Well, a soft skin. 485 00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:41,350 I can answer. 486 00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:45,430 But let me tell you an issue that I have. 487 00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:46,770 And I don't know how we correct this. 488 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:48,750 And I know we talk briefly about it. 489 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:52,250 But we approve areas of redevelopment, right? 490 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:55,590 Because we've determined or the planning board and everybody's determined that these 491 00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:58,710 areas are blighted or are not really used. 492 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:02,870 So it allows the areas to be changed a little bit. 493 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:08,710 But then what happens is nothing takes place 494 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:10,990 for years and years and years. 495 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:14,250 And the one that really sets me off the most, 496 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:17,030 and I told you, I know the Amway Avenue is one 497 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:19,510 that I'm like, you know, why can't we get them moving 498 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:20,550 if they wanna do something? 499 00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:28,490 But the old Ford plant, where top golf is, right, I mean, I heard that was being redeveloped 500 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:36,190 town square, all these great things, 10, 15 years past, nothing happens, and it's more 501 00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:38,130 of an eye sore than we had the Ford plant. 502 00:40:38,910 --> 00:40:40,150 They're just starting now. 503 00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:47,110 Somehow I'd like to see us put something in these agreements of like timelines that they 504 00:40:47,110 --> 00:40:52,110 to have to meet along the way. If there's a way for us to do that. 505 00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:58,210 Mike, Council, just for discussion. I'm not trying to debate you. How do you make a statement 506 00:40:58,670 --> 00:41:01,470 that the four-point heads had nothing go on? 507 00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:06,210 Okay, so the four plant is how many acres? 508 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:12,990 I don't have the answer. Okay. If I told you a hundred acres, you'd probably believe that, right? 509 00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:17,030 As of ten years ago, how much of that was already developed? 510 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:22,240 Let me ask you a question, where do you think they can fix something else? 511 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:23,520 What's that? 512 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,940 What do you think they can fix something else on that property? 513 00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:27,440 There's not much room left. 514 00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:28,520 I don't know. 515 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,680 I'm looking at the Ford property. 516 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,460 There is property. 517 00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:33,460 As soon as you pull in, there's a huge lot right there. 518 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:37,600 So I'm saying that they have now, but when do we do this? 519 00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:40,020 June Troy was our mayor, right? 520 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,780 How long ago was that? 521 00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:44,800 People probably hear him, you know who June Troy was, but he was a mayor here. 522 00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:47,240 That's how long ago it was. 523 00:41:47,240 --> 00:42:01,920 So, it's at least 8 plus 4 plus 4 that's 16, 17, 18, we're talking 20 years ago, is when this idea came to fruition, and we still have land there that's not developed. 524 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,140 That's where I'm going, and when I see the Amboy Avenue saying, 525 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:13,800 That's where I was going, that there should be a timeline where within five years we're going to see somebody breaking ground, 526 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,620 not in my now on my grandson gets to sit up here type of thing you know I'll just let that 527 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:31,000 comparison go be okay I mean four point has top golf has albatross super charger it has 528 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:38,200 you know several restaurants I fly I mean I think it's almost at probably 85% capacity 529 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,720 So, I mean, I think you're on none. 530 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,460 Oh, Sam's called. 531 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,660 I mean, I'm excited for me being recognized as probably a young adult professional 532 00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:51,080 recreation place around the Central New Jersey. 533 00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:54,320 But I understand which. 534 00:42:54,980 --> 00:42:55,840 So, I don't like it. 535 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,420 I do like what they're doing. 536 00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:07,140 I look at this sometimes I get challenged how we do this, because we already passed a study 537 00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:13,120 family, I mean, you already have a AR zone and we have another zone and I'm not gonna ask 538 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,720 any questions. 539 00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:20,960 It's just, if this study for the individual property gives the land owner an opportunity 540 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:28,720 to have some wiggle room to create something different that may may not be a part of the original 541 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,520 ordinance in the original overlay zone, I can understand that. 542 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,420 He doesn't have a big of a property to begin with. 543 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,480 But at this moment, as I tell most residents 544 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,920 who may object and come here, not much has happened 545 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,860 in a way, I'm used for something that happened. 546 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040 Happy they're taking this step and the township 547 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,280 is allowing it to be studied in a visual for that property. 548 00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:55,600 But you can't change too much 549 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,660 because the ordinance is the foundation of what it is. 550 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,140 You're still going to go through the planning board. 551 00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:10,800 But we'll see what happens, but that's where I think there's something we discover because this person doesn't need to have this, they can go straight to a planning board and as an application. 552 00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:12,740 They do not have to go there. 553 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,140 This is several people I've went straight to the planning board. 554 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,240 But I'm not going to argue that. 555 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:18,920 I'm not an attorney. 556 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,880 I'm not an attorney. 557 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:21,120 So let it go. 558 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:21,840 All right. 559 00:44:22,340 --> 00:44:26,980 We're going to move down anything else from the department. 560 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Anything else to be discussed? 561 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:34,380 That was F. We're going to move the 13 Department of Recreation. 562 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:35,860 Are you in B? 563 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,900 Here and none move it. 564 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,140 One question. We didn't cut anything from the last key program, right? 565 00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:45,810 To my knowledge. 566 00:44:55,330 --> 00:44:55,830 We're moving. 567 00:44:57,070 --> 00:44:58,070 I don't know if that was a question. 568 00:44:58,290 --> 00:44:59,970 I was going to the question. 569 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,500 Okay. 570 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:14,580 Any other questions for 13? Here and none, we're going to regular meeting. Right now, we're going to kick off our regular meeting. 571 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:30,000 This meeting is a public hearing to adopt the budget. However, we may not vote on the budget because there are three members that are not here. This will be the public hearing for the budget. 572 00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:33,000 This will be the public hearing for the budget. 573 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:36,120 At this time, Rich is not here. 574 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:38,700 So we'll have to go into a brief recess. 575 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:39,940 We don't have a quorum. 576 00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:46,020 So, while Rich is on break, 577 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:49,200 I'm in motion to have a four minute recess. 578 00:45:51,490 --> 00:45:51,930 Motion. 579 00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:52,930 Have a second. 580 00:45:53,590 --> 00:45:54,610 Again, on favor say aye. 581 00:45:55,410 --> 00:45:56,670 Okay, it's now 705. 582 00:45:57,450 --> 00:45:58,490 We're in a four minute recess. 583 00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:01,090 First, we apologize for the delay. 584 00:46:01,090 --> 00:46:05,590 we had a four minute recess which turned into probably a twenty-five minute recess. 585 00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:12,650 Yes, Nihwai, we can't continue our meeting, Councilman Brescher left the building. 586 00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:18,050 I don't know why, I hope it's not a medical emergency, I can't speak for why he would 587 00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:22,490 leave a meeting knowing that we're voting for an important budget. 588 00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:30,050 That's just any budget, but a budget that has been in it for public safety, for fire, 589 00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:36,490 for public works. For every emergency we need in this town. But I don't have that answer 590 00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:41,690 because I don't have communication with him right now, but he did leave. But I'm hoping 591 00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:49,210 it's something that he could not control. And we are here today. By law we can convenious 592 00:46:49,210 --> 00:46:54,890 meeting to pick a date. That's all we can do, but we cannot continue this meeting. So today 593 00:46:55,930 --> 00:47:06,690 We've discussed with the few of us and the administration and August 3rd is going to be the date that we pick for the next public hearing to adopt this budget. 594 00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:13,630 But while I'm still here speaking, I am challenged that three members of the Council could not make it tonight. 595 00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:20,370 Again, can't speak for them. Why? I only hope that there was a good reason for that. 596 00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:31,850 I would say there was a council president prior to me that would call me with not the best voice if I did not call her. 597 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:38,900 If I didn't call a council president, Margaret Harris, that's all I was not attending a regular reading on a Monday. 598 00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:46,360 I heard a lot and maybe 14 to 25 messages that would bombard my inbox. 599 00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:53,780 It's important today. Today is a very important day in Edison Township, and tomorrow it's 600 00:47:53,780 --> 00:48:00,780 unfortunate that we have no choice and the administration will issue pink slips to employees 601 00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:08,700 for a budget. We will not be able to spend money today this entire bill list every function 602 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:13,940 of government that maybe needed for tomorrow will not happen today. You will not happen 603 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:20,100 all is third. This is my first time in 12 years of every seeing council not convening for a budget 604 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:25,880 that was important to the township vettison important to the safety of our residents. This is 605 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,700 more than just not coming to a meeting. And the fact that council pressure decided to leave for 606 00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:38,940 his own reason purpose, let's hope it was a medical issue and I will forgive him for that. But I don't 607 00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:44,800 why he left, but we can't convene this meeting and it's crucial. Our budget being passed 608 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,620 is very important. As a Council President, Council Member Soff asked to delay this budget, 609 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,920 which gave all of us plenty of time. More than the usual over the 12 years of my time sitting 610 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,740 at this council, we passed the budget at interruption and then we passed it the following time. 611 00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:07,020 There are two Council members here that can prove that themselves. They were here. Both, 612 00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:12,280 I have two council presidents in the audience that have witnessed us, are there three council 613 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,840 presidents? 614 00:49:13,220 --> 00:49:13,940 One, two, three. 615 00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:14,780 Oh, Jesus. 616 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,780 I have three. 617 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:16,420 John, I'm sorry. 618 00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:23,080 I have council member, Porter, president, council president, Margot Harris, and former council 619 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,260 president to a ship. 620 00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:27,860 All former council members who have never experienced this ever. 621 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:35,440 So I am challenged and I am sorry that members of this council are choosing to act this 622 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,500 not to be here tonight. We need four votes to pass a budget, just four, and we had four 623 00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:47,240 here, and for some of them raised in Councillor Brush decided to leave, and he walked out 624 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:53,740 on the residents of Edison. He could have voted, but he decided not to be here. Again, I 625 00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:59,760 will convene with my colleagues. I felt they did a great job. You know, speaking with them, 626 00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:04,900 collectively about the budget, we've had numerous meetings, numerous discussions. No one led 627 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,260 for me to believe that they would not come to the budget. 628 00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:12,620 Now, one person said, and we know this, 629 00:50:12,620 --> 00:50:14,120 everybody knows this play. 630 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,140 It's not a playbook that we've not seen before, 631 00:50:17,860 --> 00:50:19,880 but no one is indicated they would not. 632 00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:21,820 No one is indicated, cut they wanted 633 00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:25,260 and had an ultimatum on top of that cut. 634 00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:26,920 Today they should not show. 635 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,900 Again, I will defend them to hope 636 00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:31,960 that it was a medical emergency or an issue in traffic 637 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,180 that they could not control. 638 00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:39,380 But again, we've set this date down for Monday, August 3rd, to convene here at 6 o'clock. 639 00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:44,920 It'll be combined session again to hope past the spending that is important to as it is 640 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:50,400 residents for safety and for the needed uses we have in town for our seniors. 641 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:57,200 But I ask you, if you see Councilmember Brecher, if you see Councilmember Kentos, if you 642 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,840 see Councilmember Beale Patel, if you see Councilmember AJ Patel, let them know how important 643 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,700 it's within the beer. And I ask you to reach out to them in the most respectful way you can. 644 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:09,940 This meeting is adjourned at 736.