ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'LL KICK OFF, UH, TODAY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS ADVISORY BOARD, UH, FOR AUGUST 18TH, 2026. UH, BEFORE OUR FIRST, UH, OR SECOND ITEM, I GUESS. UM, I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE JIM JOSEPH, WHO IS NOT HERE, BUT WE MISSED, UM, LAST MEETING WAS HIS LAST AND FULFILLED HIS TERM. SO I, I, UH, APOLOGIZE. I MISSED, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR HIS SERVICE. SO WE DO WANNA, WANNA SEE, WANNA RECOGNIZE HIM AND THANK HIM. SO IF YOU SEE HIM OUT AND ABOUT, UH, BE SURE TO BE SURE TO THANK HIM FOR THAT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, VOTING ITEMS. WE HAVE THREE VOTING ITEMS TODAY. TWO A IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JULY 21ST, 2026, UH, MEETING MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND MOVE, AND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. NO DISCUSSION ON THIS AT ALL. DID YOU HAVE SOME DISCUSSION? I APOLOGIZE, A QUESTION. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU GOTTA SEE IF THE ATTORNEYS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID THAT THEY AGREE THAT THAT'S ITEM, THAT'S ITEM TWO B. YEP. MINUTES. YEP. YEP. MINUTES. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU WANT? RIGHT? I WAS STARTING TO GET THROUGH THIS ONE SO WE CAN SPEND TIME ON THE NEXT ONE. RON TOTALLY FOCUSED ON THAT. UM, ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES WITH SEVEN VOTES. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW ONTO TWO B. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL INVOICE FROM THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DANFORTH AND KELLY INTERSECTION PROJECT FOR $1,046,142 AND 10 CENTS. UH, WE DID REVIEW THIS ONE, UH, LAST MONTH AND HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON IT. SO, BRAD, ARE YOU WELCOME US THROUGH THIS ONE? YEAH, AND I'VE GOT CHRISTIE BATTERSON FOR ANY GRANT RELATED QUESTIONS. SO WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM, UH, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PARTNERSHIP, UH, FOR THE PROJECT WITH ODOT, THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS. UM, SO THEY'RE KIND OF LIMITED OPTIONS HERE. UM, STAFF HAS SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH ODOT TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO PREVENT FUTURE UNEXPECTED INVOICES LIKE THIS. UH, BUT IT SEEMS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PARTNERSHIP AND AGREEMENT, WE ARE BOUND TO PAY TO PAY THIS. UH, AN INTERESTING SIDE NOTE, ODOT MOVING FORWARD, UH, THEIR STANDARD PROCESS HAS BEEN CHARGING 6% FOR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS AND THEIR, ALL THEIR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES, THEY ARE CHANGING THAT TO 12%. WOW. SO, MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL SEE THIS MORE ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN A SURPRISE INVOICE LIKE THIS. THE TOTAL COST FOR THE INSPECTIONS FOR DANFORTH AND KELLY IS LESS THAN THAT 12%. SO IT SHOULD BE CAPTURED BETTER ON THE FRONT END MOVING FORWARD QUESTIONS. WHAT IF YOU DON'T PAY IT AS A BUSINESS OWNER? WHAT IF YOU DON'T PAY IT? WHAT, WHAT'S THE RECOURSE FOR ODOT BACK TO THE CITY? CHRISTY BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES? UM, TO PUT IT SHORT, WE WON'T GET ANY MONEY FROM THEM. UM, WE WILL BE WHAT THEY WOULD CALL BLACKLISTED OR, UM, AND I WILL SAY ON THIS INTERSECTION, AND BRAD PROBABLY HAS THE NUMBER, THEY DID GIVE US MORE MONEY, UM, FOR THIS INTERSECTION IN PARTICULAR AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU, LIKE ON DARK TRAILS, UM, AND SUCH, EVERY TIME WE GO AFTER A GRANT, THEY END UP GIVING US A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. UH, SECOND AND, UH, THE A DA PROJECT ON SECOND EDMOND ROAD RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. THEY GAVE US MORE MONEY. SO BECAUSE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ODOT, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT DOING THAT, BUT YOU ALL ARE THE COMMITTEE. UM, SO, BUT THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOBODY WANTS, WANTS TO DO. I GUESS I HAVE IT. YEP. I I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ROB, YOU STARTED TO ASK, I THINK, WAS IT THIS ITEM OR THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTION, THIS ITEM? SO WHAT, SHORT OF NOT PAYING IT, UM, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS DO, IS THERE RECOURSE THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY? I, I THINK WHAT I HEARD IS THAT THEY, BASED ON THE AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED FOR THE, FOR THE PROJECT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. SO IT'S JUST LIKE TOUGH LUCK. YEAH. YEAH.
ALL, WELL, I WOULD ASSUME THAT ODOT IS ALSO AWARE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY AT AGREEMENTS IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT BOTH SIDES WORKING TOGETHER WILL MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. YEAH. IN THE MOVE TO THE 12, FROM 6% FEE FOR INSPECTIONS TO 12% ON THE FRONT END, THEY EXPLAINED THAT, UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF UNHAPPY MUNICIPALITIES THAT GOT SURPRISED BY ADDITIONAL INSPECTION FEES. AND I EVEN SAID TO THEM, OH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME? AND THEY SAID, OH, NO, THERE'S PEOPLE MUCH MORE UPSET THAN YOU ARE . SO APPARENTLY WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE HAD THIS ADDITIONAL INSPECTION FEE, UH, COME ABOUT AT A LATER STAGE IN THE PROJECT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UPSET US AND BE DIFFICULT TO SWALLOW. I THINK. WELL, IT'S ALMOST SAYING, BECAUSE THIS KEEPS HAPPENING, WE'RE GONNA DOUBLE OUR FEE AND TELL YOU UP FRONT INSTEAD OF NEGOTIATING ON OUR SIDE TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE THESE OVERAGES. AND YOU HAVE CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT KIND OF HOLDS 'EM ACCOUNTABLE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAYBE GET SOME OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT REALLY SPECIALIZES IN THIS KIND OF STUFF AND TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THESE DOCUMENTS AND NOT JUST AGREE, OKAY, DOUBLE OUR FEE AND TELL US UPFRONT THAT, THAT THAT'S A HORRIBLE, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S A HORRIBLE ANSWER, . BUT, BUT I GET WHAT'S BEING SAID. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO MAKE EVERYBODY ANGRY WHEN YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY YOU DON'T HAVE AN OPTION, NOW YOU MIGHT AS WELL PAY THE BILL. BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY CHANGE THE PROCESS, AND I WOULDN'T JUST ACCEPT, OKAY, DOUBLING THE FEE IS BASICALLY JUST, THEY'RE OUT, IN MY OPINION, AND TELLING YOU UP FRONT , YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, ENOUGH SAID, I GUESS THAT'S, I WOULD ALSO, I, I AGREE WITH THAT. IT ALSO, UM, NOT FOR US, BUT FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE POLITICIANS AMONG US, UH, TO TAKE THIS UP WITH OUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND ALSO OUR LEGISLATURE, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT. BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOT STAFF THAT'S, UH, DEALING THAT, THAT'S IMPOSING THIS. SO YEAH, I THINK JUST LIKE ANYTHING, THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP TO, UH, TO CONSIDER. AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE PROJECT, BUT ALSO COMMUNICATION AND, AND EXPECTATIONS MATTER, AND WHETHER IT'S IN THE CONTRACT OR NOT, WHEN YOU COME AFTER THE FACT AND BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE UPSETTING. YEAH. AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING IS THAT ON FUTURE PROJECTS, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT TO PARTNER, UH, WITH ODOT AND USE FEDERAL FUNDS ON A PROJECT, THE EIGHT, WHAT WAS 6% AND WHAT IS NOW 12% IS THAT OF THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS. SO IT'S NOT 12% OF THE PORTION THEY'RE GIVING US FOR THE PROJECT, IT'S 12% OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO, UH, IF, IF THEIR SHARE OF THE PROJECT IS, UH, A LOW PORTION OF THE PROJECT, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE AS STAFF CONSIDERING, UH, NOT UTILIZING THOSE TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES. YEAH. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. ROB, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION DOES PASS SIX TO ONE. UH, ITEM TWO C IS A RELATED ITEM, UM, TO ADJUST THE BUDGET FOR, UH, THE SAME INCREASE ON THIS PROJECT. ANY FURTHER, UH, DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION RELATED, UH, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE DOING THAT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AN UNBUDGETED AMOUNT. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF A SURPRISE CHARGE TO US. SO WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF NOW AMENDING THE BUDGET AS OPPOSED TO IDENTIFYING THIS AS A, SOMETHING WE WEREN'T EXPECTING? UNEXPECTED EXPENDITURE. SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS IN THAT LINE ITEM TO PAY THAT INVOICE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT IS. SO IT WOULD BE JUST RESERVING THOSE FUNDS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SPENT ELSEWHERE? Y YEAH. SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SIGN AND PAY THE INVOICE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY IN OUR ACCOUNT. I GOTCHA. SPEND IT. ALRIGHT. THE MAJORITY OF IT IS ALREADY IN THAT LINE ITEM, SO IT'S TACKING ON ENOUGH SO THAT WE CAN PAY IT
IN FULL FROM ONE ACCOUNT. SO INSTEAD OF IT STAYING IN RESERVES, IT JUST MOVES THAT MONEY TO THAT LINE ITEM SO WE CAN COVER THE AMOUNT OF CORRECT. I GOT IT. YEAH, IT, IT'S NOT A PERSPECTIVE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR TYPE THING. I GOTCHA. I'M WITH YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM TWO C. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. I HAVE A QUESTION JUST ABOUT THAT PROJECT WHEN YOU'RE READY. YEP. THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE HEARD FROM, AT LEAST I SAY I'VE HEARD, I'VE TALKED TO TWO PE TWO OTHER PEOPLE IN ADDITION TO MYSELF THAT NOTICED THAT WHILE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL INTERSECTION, NOW THE MEDIAN IS VERY TIGHT. I MEAN LIKE THAT MUCH FROM THE LEFT TIRE. UM, IS THAT A, AN OKLAHOMA A STATE REQUIREMENT? A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OR A CITY REQUIREMENT THAT BUILT THAT MEDIAN SO WIDE? BRAD, STEVE , YOU GUYS, WELL YOU GUYS ARE STARING AT EACH OTHER. LOOK HOW YOU HEARD THAT BEFORE, . WELL, I'LL TAKE IT. UM, SO YEAH, THE MEDIAN, THE INSTALLATION OF IT WAS, WAS FOR THE SAFETY PURPOSES. THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE MEDIAN'S THERE. AND WE DID OUR BEST. THE PROJECT WAS DESIGNED MANY YEARS AGO. WE DID OUR BEST TO MODIFY THE DESIGN BEFORE IT WENT OUT THE DOOR TO, UH, ENABLE AS MANY U-TURNS AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE A LARGE TAPER ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER, UH, TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. UH, THE REASON FOR THERE IS A MINIMUM WIDTH OF THE EASEMENT OR OF THE MEDIAN, AND THAT'S FOUR FEET MINIMUM. IT'S, IT IS A FEDERAL STANDARD. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GO BY. UH, AND THERE WAS ALSO LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, UH, TO WORK WITHIN. SO, UH, I THINK PROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE TO SEVEN 11 AND MCDONALD'S THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA ACQUIRE RIGHT AWAY FROM THEM. AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE THERE. SO YOU CAN'T MAKE THE MEDIAN SMALLER N NOT SMALLER THAN THE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY FOUR FEET. CAN YOU GET A BIG ROUTER, ? THAT'S . WE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE HURTING THEIR, THEIR CARS AND ALL THAT. SO IT JUST FEELS VERY, VERY TIGHT. WE, WE DID AS MANY, UH, DESIGN ADJUSTMENTS AS WE COULD FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, SLOPED ENDS OF THE MEDIANS AND MORE STRIPING IN FRONT OF THE MEDIANS AND MORE STRIPING AROUND THE MEDIANS TO HELP PRESERVE PEOPLE'S VEHICLES THAT DRIVE THROUGH THAT MAY NOT BE PAYING ATTENTION OR FOCUSED. SO WE, WE, WE DID AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO THE DESIGN TO GET THAT DONE. I, IS IT MY IMAGINATION OR IS IT SHARPER EDGES NOW AS OPPOSED TO ROUNDED? SO ONE OF THE OTHER, WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THAT? ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH CONTRACTING THROUGH ODOT, UH, TO DO A PROJECT WITH FEDERAL, UH, WAGES OR FEDERAL, UH, INVOLVEMENT IS THAT ODOT HAS CONTROL OVER DECISIONS MADE DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT WAS A DECISION MADE BY ODOT TO ALLOW THAT TYPE OF FORMING FOR THE CURB. UM, AND IT IS SHARPER THAN THE NORMAL CURB. UM, AND OTHER, OTHER THAN THAT IT CONFORMS TO OUR STANDARD. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE SITTING HERE REALLY WONDERING WHY ARE WE DOING BUSINESS WITH ODOT AT ALL? ? UM, IS THERE OPTIONS TO GET FEDERAL MONEY? DO YOU HAVE TO USE ODOT? WE DO. IS THERE, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT? IT IS, YEAH. OKAY. AND YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY DECIDE THEY WANNA DO AND THAT'S CORRECT. WOW, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BAD SITUATION. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH ODOT TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM. UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE SUGGEST HOW LONG WE WANT A PROJECT TO TAKE AND OTHER, OTHER FACTORS, AND THEN THEY WEIGH THAT AND CHOOSE HOW LONG THEY WANT THE CONSTRUCTION TO GO ON BASED ON TRYING TO GET THE BEST BID FOR THE PROJECT. HAVE YOU COMPARED OTHER STATES? DOES, DOES THE OTHER, DOES TEXAS AND ARKANSAS AND KANSAS, DO THEY HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS? THEY ALL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCEDURE WITH THEIR STATE DOTS? UHHUH? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS. OKAY. I'M JUST, JUST CURIOUS. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL, UH, LEAN ON, UH, JEFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF MAYBE DISCUSSING WITH SOME STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND, AND YEAH, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THREE A, UH, MONTHLY SALES TAX REPORT FOR AUGUST OF 26. NO, HEY GROUP, MATT WITH FINANCE. UM, JUST KIND
OF GOING INTO OUR SALES TAX FOR AUGUST, WE HAD A PRETTY ROUGH MONTH WITH A, UH, NEGATIVE 3.71% GROWTH RATE IN AUGUST. UH, STILL AT 1.8% YEAR TO DATE, WHICH IS, UM, HIGHER THAN WE BUDGETED. SO A USE TAX. STILL SEEING GREAT RETURNS THERE. AND YEAH, NEXT, NEXT PAGE IS GREAT SALES AND USE COMBINE. STILL HOLDING RELATIVELY STRONG AT 4.72 YEAR TO DATE. AND IF YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THE CITY COMPARISON, WE'RE KIND OF TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, UH, HEAD OF OKLAHOMA CITY AND BELOW MORE RIGHT NOW. UM, JUST KIND OF OBSERVING, LOOKING AT BROKEN ARROW WITH A VERY HIGH, UH, COMBINED RATE. SO SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO AS WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IN AUGUST. UM, KATHY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF ADVISE ME OF WHAT TO EXACTLY SAY. 'CAUSE THERE'S THINGS THAT WE DISCOVERED FROM THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVISED WE CAN'T DISCLOSE THE VENDOR OR THE AMOUNT, BUT THERE WAS A CORRECTION IN AUGUST THAT THEY WERE HAVING TO DO. UM, AND SO, AND IT CAUGHT UP OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. SO KIND OF SITUA SIMILAR SITUATION THAT HAPPENED. WHAT WAS THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2025? IT WAS ANOTHER, UH, ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT INSTEAD OF, UM, INSTEAD OF PRO RATTING THAT OUT OF FULL YEAR, THEY JUST TOOK ALL OF THAT CORRECTION INTO ONE MONTH. UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GIVE YOU, WE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT FURTHER PUBLIC DATA. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL. ARE OTHER CITIES SEEING THESE CORRECTIONS OR WEIRD THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPENING? 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF SCARY THAT, THAT HAPPENED. I, AGAIN, I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T, YEAH, I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO OTHER CITIES. THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN DO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN DISCLOSE TO US 'CAUSE THEY'RE UNDER THE SAME RULES AS WE ARE. UM, BUT YOU, YOU DO SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, YUKON SAW LAST YEAR SAW A NEGATIVE YEAR TO DATE, UM, SALES AND USE TAX. SO IT, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE. UM, BUT YEAH, I CAN, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU GUYS. REMIND ME, AUGUST WOULD BE JUNE COLLECTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YEAH. YES. KATHY PANIS, FINANCE DIRECTOR. I DO WANT TO COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION. JUST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THERE ARE MISTAKES ALL THE TIME AND I'M GUESSING IT DOES HAPPEN TO OTHER CITIES. UM, SOME OF THIS REPAYMENT THAT WE DISCOVERED THIS TIME WAS SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY DISCOVERED. MATT CAME TO ME AND I'M LIKE, WELL, WE MIGHT AS WELL CALL 'EM NOW. SO WE CALLED THEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T OUR SALES TAX. THE CITY THAT THE, THE ENTITY THAT REPORTS IT HAS TO AMEND THEIR RETURNS AND THEN THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION TAKES IT FROM US. ONE COMPLAINT THAT I HAVE, THAT I HAVE EXPRESSED MY OPINION TO THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, IT'S THEIR ERROR. IT'S NOT OUR ERROR. IT'S REALLY NOT THE CITY OTHER, IT'S NO ONE'S ERROR BUT THEIRS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO YOUR SALES TAX RETURN AND YOU, YOU SUBMIT IT, THEY GIVE YOU THE CODE SO YOU CAN ONLY SUBMIT IT LIKE THEY'VE GIVEN IT TO YOU. AND THEN WHEN AN ERRORS DISCOVERED THAT GROUP, THAT WHOEVER FILES A RETURN HAS TO AMEND IT TO THE RIGHT CODE AND THEN THEY JUST TAKE IT ALL BACK FROM US. SO THE BIG ONE WE HAD LAST YEAR, THEY GAVE US THE OPTION OF, UM, SPREADING IT OVER 12 MONTHS. OR WE COULD HAVE PROTESTED IT AND JUST SAID, HEY, WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT. WELL, WE'RE ADMIN AND WE, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE PAID IT BACK. THERE ARE OUR OPTIONS, BUT IT'S REALLY ANOTHER, UM, THING THAT MATT DIDN'T MENTION, BUT HE REMEMBERED ON THIS PARTICULAR MONTH TOO. THE REASON OUR, OUR USE TAXES UP SO HIGH IS BECAUSE THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION MADE AN ERROR LAST YEAR. THEY DIDN'T GIVE US CREDIT FOR ESTIMATED PAYMENTS THAT ALL THE CORPORATIONS WERE MAKING. SO IT'S JUST, YOU WATCH IT ALL THE TIME AND YOU TRY TO SEE IF IT'S MAKING SENSE AND WHEN IT IS LIKE, WHAT WAS OUR, I DUNNO, OUR YEAR TAX WAS UP LIKE 24% OR SOMETHING THIS MONTH, AND IT'S BECAUSE A YEAR AGO THEY FORGOT TO GIVE US OUR PAYMENTS FOR A MONTH OR TWO. THEY CAUGHT IT UP, THEY FOUND IT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO AUDIT THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO DO IT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT PERCENT WAS? I MEAN, HOW MUCH DID IT BRING IT DOWN, BRING, UH, THE SALES TAX DOWN, THE ADJUSTMENT? YEAH, IT
WAS PROBABLY, I MEAN, IT WAS A FRACTION OF A PERCENT HOW MUCH YEAR FOR, I'M SORRY, FOR JUST THE MONTH. UM, IT ACTUALLY BRINGS IT DOWN ABOUT 2%, BUT YEAR TO DATE, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A FRACTION OF A PERCENT. IF YOU, IF YOU GO FROM JUNE TO JULY FINANCIALS. OKAY. SO, SO TO ANSWER REALLY NOT A GOOD ANSWER. IT'S JUST, IT'S THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION AND, AND THEY MAKE ERRORS AND THEN WHEN THEY FIND 'EM, THEY CHARGE 'EM FOR US. AND THEY'RE NOT VERY SYMPATHETIC TO TRYING, YOU KNOW, ADMITTING THAT IT'S THEIR, WELL, I GUESS THEY'LL EVEN AND ADMIT IT, THIS IT'S THEIR ERROR. YEAH. YEAH. BUT THEY WON'T BUDGE ON US PAYING, WELL, THEY JUST TAKE IT FROM US. WE DON'T PAY IT BACK. , THEY JUST WITHHOLD IT. SO, UM, YEAH, IF ANYBODY KNOWS OF A, ANOTHER CONTACT OF THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION OR POSSIBLY OUR, OUR REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD COMPLAIN ABOUT. BUT, UM, THAT THE BIG HIT THAT WE TOOK LAST YEAR WAS BECAUSE OKLAHOMA CITY FOUND IT, REPORTED IT TO THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, SOMEBODY AMENDED THEIR RETURNS AND THEN THEY WITHHELD IT FROM US. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. UM, WE'VE TALKED A LOT TOO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR BORDER AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COLLECTING THE RIGHT SALES TAX. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN SHORT OF, HONESTLY, PEOPLE GOING IN AND TELLING US LIKE, HEY, I BOUGHT SOMETHING AT THIS STORE AND THEY CHARGED ME THE WRONG RATE. THAT'S REALLY HOW YOU HAVE TO FIND IT. SO UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS ANOTHER, A BETTER IDEA, BUT LITERALLY YOU'D HAVE TO GO ALONG OUR CITY LIMIT LINES AND BUY SOMETHING THERE AND SEE IF THEY WERE CHARGING THE EDMOND RATE VERSUS THE OKLAHOMA CITY RATE AND WHAT THEY WERE BECAUSE, AND IN, YOU PROBABLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS, BUT EVEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THAT, UH, YEAR LONG 0.25% FOR HAYFORD PARK MM-HMM . THAT WE INCREASED OUR SALES TAX, MY GROUP ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO LUNCH LONG AFTER THAT EXPIRED AND ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS WAS STILL CHARGING IT. SO WE TOLD 'EM, IT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN'T CHARGE THIS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THAT, UH, TAX RATE ANYMORE. BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, ACTUALLY THE VENDOR OR THE MERCHANT IS, IS KEEPING THAT DIFFERENCE MM-HMM . BECAUSE IT'S, WHEN THEY FILE THE RETURN, THE RATE'S NOT THAT HIGH. SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT YOU LOOK NEED TO WATCH FOR. IF YOU EVER SEE IT ON YOUR RECEIPT, LET US KNOW AND WE CAN CONTACT THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, AT LEAST GET IT FIXED. WELL, I WILL TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK YOU KATHY AND, AND MATT AND, AND THE REST OF Y'ALL'S TEAM. I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE. I WAS CLICKING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCE ON THE WEBSITE THIS WEEKEND AND, UM, IT IS JUST, IT'S NICE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU GUYS AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING YOU, EVEN IF THE SALES TAX AND THE, THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION CHANGES THINGS. UM, IT'S NICE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN A TEAM THAT DOES THINGS WELL. SO THANK YOU. YEP, THANK YOU. AND, AND I CAN GO IN FURTHER INTO THIS SECTORS OR WE CAN JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT THERE. AGAIN, RETAIL IS, UM, PREDOMINANTLY WHAT WE COLLECT. UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU SEE THAT ADJUSTMENT AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SALES TAX? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ITEM THREE B IS DISCUSSION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THIS IS, UM, ONE WE PUT ON, UH, THE AGENDA SEVERAL MONTHS AGO TO JUST KIND OF HAVE AN ACTIVE DISCUSSION AND, AND WE'VE SORT OF MORPHED IT TO BE OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE PROJECTS, UM, AND WORK THROUGH RATHER THAN SCHEDULING A A SEPARATE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. UM, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT DONE RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE WANNA WORK TOWARDS KINDA WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AN EIGHT YEAR ROAD PLAN AND, AND THEN CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE LOOKING AT IN THE CITY AND HOW WE AS A BOARD WANT TO ADVISE COUNCIL ON THIS AS THE WAY WE THINK WE SHOULD PLAN AND DO THAT. UM, AND I DID HAVE A, A CHANCE TO TALK TO, UM, MR. KRUEGER AND, UM, BEFORE THIS MEETING, HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, UM, DUE TO SOME OTHER, UH, PRESSING BUSINESS. BUT, UH, IT, WE DID, WE DID TALK THROUGH THAT IDEA THAT, THAT WE SERVE ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT VOICES ARE HEARD AND, AND THAT INPUT IS TAKEN AND PARTICULARLY ON THE FUTURE AND WHERE WE WANT THESE FUNDS TO BE DIRECTED AS WE START PLANNING PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY, BUT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE. AND SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE HAVING THIS KIND OF OPEN AGENDA ITEM THAT COVERS ALL THE CIP PROJECTS, BOTH WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, WHICH IS WHAT WE KIND OF LOOKED THROUGH A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH. AND LAST MONTH. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE, THE IDEA OF THE COWELL PARKWAY AND WHAT INTERSECTIONS THERE. AND THEN, UM, BRAD, YOU'VE PREPARED, UM, A COUPLE DIFFERENT LISTS OF PROJECTS FOR US TO LOOK THROUGH TODAY. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND LET'S YOU WALK US THROUGH THEM. AWESOME.
LET'S HAVE SOME FUN. SO THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU THERE, IT'S PRETTY INCLUSIVE OF HIGH PRIORITY, UH, ROAD AND STREET RELATED PROJECTS. UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE TWO MAIN PROJECTS THAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, LAST MONTH NOT BEING ON THAT LIST, THE COVE AND COLTRANE AND COVELL AND SANTA FE, UH, COVELL AND COLTRANE AS A REMINDER, THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT THERE IS 40 MILLION COVE AND SANTA FE, PROBABLY AROUND 30 MILLION. UH, WE HAVE, HOWEVER INCLUDED THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST THERE, UH, JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, ONCE AGAIN, THE COVE CORRIDOR WIDENING AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FROM SANTA FE TO COLTRANE. SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE INDIVIDUALS HERE. SO, SO OF THAT A HUNDRED MILLION ON LINE ITEM 15 OR MAP ID 15 IS INCLUDING 40 MILLION FOR COLTRANE AND 30 MILLION CORRECT. FOR SANTA FE AND THE OTHER 30 MILLION PRETTY MUCH FOR BRYANT AND COVE, THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND WIDENING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT BRAD QUESTION. SO WHAT IS THE EXPECTED, UM, BUDGET AMOUNT FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS OVER THE, AND IF YOU ADD ALL THIS UP, I DON'T, I'M NOT THAT FAST, BUT IT'S MORE THAN WE CAN DO IN EIGHT YEARS. SO YEAH, SO, BUT WHAT'S THE NUMBER I THINK SO THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IF AS WE THINK THROUGH THIS TO PRIORITIZE, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO 20 OR THE 2027 PAVING? THE WAIT TAX. I, I THINK WE'RE ESTIMATING 11 POINT A HALF MILLION A YEAR. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 4 MILLION A YEAR IN, UH, THE 2000 TO, TO KIND OF DIRECT SEVERAL, UH, SO SO ABOUT 15 MILLION A YEAR. OVER EIGHT YEARS. OVER EIGHT YEARS. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WHICH, WHICH WE'LL DIVE MORE INTO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. UH, THIS ONE I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT ALL THE PROJECTS TO YOU SO YOU COULD START, UH, PONDERING WHICH ONES YOU GUYS WANTED TO PRIORITIZE. AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY BUDGET PART, UH, NEXT MONTH. BUT, UH, I'M SORRY, YEAH, AHEAD. ARE YOU AHEAD? COVER ALSO, SO ALSO IMPORTANT NOT ONLY THE COST BUT THE TIMETABLE, THE LEAD TIME REQUIRED FOR PLANNING, ENGINEERING, ET CETERA. THEN YOU, YOU TURN THE FIRST BIT OF DIRT TO COMPLETION. I THINK ALL THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW AS WELL. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I, I THINK SOME OF THOSE DETAILS AS WE WALK THROUGH THESE PROJECTS TODAY. UM, AND THEN AS, AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS WE CAN, WE CAN THINK THROUGH HOW WE MIGHT PRIORITIZE THEM OR WHAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT. AND THEN, UM, BRAD'S GOT SOME AMBITIOUS GOALS FOR NEXT MONTH OF BEING ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE THINGS IN AND OUT OF BUDGET YEARS AND SEEING WHAT IT DOES TO THE BUDGET AS WE SIT HERE AND TALK THROUGH IT NEXT MONTH HOPEFULLY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. DID THIS LIST, THIS LIST, IS THAT JUST WHAT STAFF CAME UP WITH? IT'S COMBINATION OF STAFF PUBLIC INPUT? YEAH, ULTIMATELY IT'S THE LIST THAT STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT, BUT IT'S DATA DRIVEN. IT'S PUBLIC INPUT DRIVEN. IT'S NOT A PET PROJECT LIST. THIS IS BASED ON HEAT MAPS, STUDIES, SURVEYS, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT HAND. SO JUST QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE FOR CLARIFICATION, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT HEAT MAP, JUST KIND OF THE RESPONSES THAT CAME IN FROM THE SURVEY AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE A LOT THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ALL UP AND DOWN COVEL AS AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UM, BRIAN COLTRANE AREA. SOME OF THOSE, THE NUMBER ONE THING ON HERE THOUGH IS A BRIDGE THAT I'M HAVING IT'S WAY OUT HERE ON. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER ONE THING. I THINK. YEAH. THINK THE LIST IS NOT, THAT'S NOT OUR PRIORITY MAP ID IS NOT PRIORITIES. SO MAYBE, YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S NOT OUR PRIORITIES. FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY. SO THE FIRST ITEM LISTED IS THIS BRIDGE 1, 2, 3, 7, 3. AND IS THAT, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THAT IS? 'CAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME IDENTIFYING IT ON THE MAP. IT'S AT SOONER ROAD AND WHAT'S THE, THE CROSS STREET? YES. I, I GUESS LET ME, LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT. SO MY PLAN IS TO GO PROJECT BY PROJECT AND GIVE DESCRIPTIONS AND EXPLANATIONS AND GO OVER THE COSTS. SO IF THAT MAY HEAD OFF SOME MORE QUESTIONS HERE. I'M SO WE STOP ASKING QUESTIONS. YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT. NO, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS, THAT'S FINE. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT MY PLAN IS. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION. 'CAUSE I JUST REALIZED THAT AS I'M LOOKING AT THESE ARE MAP IDS, NOT NECESSARILY A NUMBER CORRECT. OR A PRIORITY. UM, BUT ALSO AS YOU GO THROUGH THEM, UM, WE'LL STOP AND ASK QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROJECTS. ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING THIS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YOU WANNA START WITH BRIDGE NUMBER? LET 1, 2, 3, 7, 3.
LET'S, YEAH, YOU CAN PUT THE MAP UP. YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE MAP ID NUMBER ONE. IF YOU'LL LOOK ON SOONER ROAD BETWEEN COFFEE CREEK AND COVEL, UH, OR IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEW CREST THAT HAS OPENED UP WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THIS IS A BRIDGE ON SOONER ROAD JUST NORTH OF THAT COVE OF THAT CREST. UH, IT'S A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, ACTUALLY 101 NOW. IT WAS BUILT IN 1925. UM, IT'S BEEN RATED AS STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT. IT'S THE WORST BRIDGE IN OUR SYSTEM. IT'S STILL PASSABLE. DON'T WORRY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING ON IT IF IT WASN'T PASSABLE. IT IS INSPECTED EVERY SIX MONTHS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF IT, IT WILL NEED TO BE FULLY REPLACED AT SOME POINT. UH, THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THAT BRIDGE REPLACEMENT IS $2.2 MILLION. UH, WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT THAT GOES AROUND AND INSPECTS ALL THE BRIDGES. THEY'VE FINISHED THEIR ASSESSMENT OF ALL OF OUR BRIDGES, AND WE SHOULD BE MEETING WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. SO IF IT HAS PROGRESSED TO BE IN ANY MORE DIRE SITUATION, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CERTAINLY PUSH THAT PRIORITY EVEN MORE. BUT IT IS CERTAINLY ON OUR RADAR AND HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR. AND QUESTION MS, SORRY, GO AHEAD. COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS AND I'LL JUST GIVE 'EM ALL TO YOU. UH, WEIGHT LIMIT ON THE BRIDGE, IF WE KNOW, UM, TRAFFIC COUNT ON THE BRIDGE, IF YOU KNOW, AND ALSO IS IT ON A BUS ROUTE OR BUS ROUTES? YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO THE REPORT THAT WE'LL GET FROM THIS BRIDGE CONSULTANT LI IT'S, IT'S A DETAILED ASSESSMENT OF EACH BRIDGE AND THE WEIGHT LIMIT ON IT AND ALL OF THAT. SO, UH, THAT'LL BE GIVEN TO US. AND SOMETIMES WHAT'LL HAPPEN, THEY'LL DE-RATE IT, THEY'LL DECREASE THE, UH, ACCEPTABLE LOAD FOR A BRIDGE BASED ON ITS CONDITION. BUT AS I SAID, IT'S INSPECTED EVERY SIX MONTHS AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO DE-RATE IT, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. IT'S OLD, BUT STILL HOLDING FIRM JUST HAS SOME ISSUES THAT ULTIMATELY WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THE TIMEFRAME WOULD BE TO REPAIR IT? WELL, BRIDGES CAN GO PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY BECOME SERIOUS, YOU REALLY HAVE NO OTHER OPTION. YEAH. UH, SO THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, WE HAVE AN ON-CALL. WE, WE JUST RECENTLY PASSED OUR ON-CALL LIST OF ENGINEERING SERVICE PROVIDERS AND WE HAVE, UH, BRIDGE REPAIR AND DESIGN ON THAT LIST. SO WE'VE GOT FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS THAT WE COULD CALL ON IMMEDIATELY AND DRAFT UP A CONTRACT, UH, TO DESIGN THE BRIDGE AND PUSH IT OUT THE DOOR. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT COULD BE A PRETTY QUICK HITTER SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, UH, SOMETIME IN THAT TIMEFRAME. HEY, BRAD, IS THAT, IS THAT BRIDGE CLOSE TO ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT JUST GOT APPROVED? COUNCIL? IT'S, AND ARE THE DEVELOPERS PITCHING IN TO HELP WITH THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ON THAT. UH, THEY ARE NOT. WE DO HAVE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, FOR THE BRIDGE, WHICH, WHICH IS A GOOD CONTRIBUTION. UM, AND SO AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE, TO THE BRIDGE ITSELF, UM, WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT RIGHT AWAY? WHAT'S THAT LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THAT RIGHT AWAY? GENERALLY THE COST IN THAT AREA IS AROUND $30 A SQUARE FOOT JUST FOR THE LAND. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THAT THE BRIDGE THAT GOES ACROSS COFFEE CREEK? IT IS, YEP. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, I MEAN, DOVETAILING ON WHAT PATRICE SAID, THE IDEA THAT DEVELOPERS TAKE ON A STRONGER LOAD THAN JUST RIGHT OF WAY IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE EVERY MAJOR CITY OR MINOR CITY HAVE IMPACT FEES OR HAVE SOME WAY OF ASKING FOR DEVELOPERS TO SHARE THE LOAD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND IT'S SHALLOW THAT IN, IN THE PAST, EDMUND HAS NOT DONE THAT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO DEVELOPERS TO CARRY MORE LOAD, WHATEVER THAT HAPPENS TO BE. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS AND MOVEMENT ON SOME DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY. ABSOLUTELY. I, I'LL SAY TWO THINGS. UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH LAND DEVELOPERS AND MAKING THEM WIDEN THE ROADS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY INSTEAD OF PAYING A FEE IN LIEU OF, WHICH MOST OF THE TIME DIDN'T COVER THE EXPENSES. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRING
THE WIDENING OF THE ROADS NOW. UM, ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE COME ACROSS A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A BRIDGE, WE NEED ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS GENERALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCES ON WHAT WE REQUIRE FROM THOSE LAND DEVELOPERS. AND SO IT'S IN A NEGOTIATION WITH THAT LAND DEVELOPER SINCE THEY CAN'T BUILD HALF OF A BRIDGE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ORDINANCES AND GRANT RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED FOR A BRIDGE, WHICH IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S IN OUR ORDINANCES. SO, SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT, NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. I HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION JUST WHAT I READ, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF PROFIT IN THAT. AND SO IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT. THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON THAT BRIDGE, WOULD THAT BE, IF, IF A NEW ONE, IF IT WERE REPLACED, WOULD, WOULD IT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT I GUESS SOONER ROAD AT SOME POINT MIGHT BE FOUR LANE? SO IS THAT A FOUR LANE OR EXTRA WIDE BRIDGE? YES. SO YOU'RE NOT COMING BACK YEARS YES. FROM NOW? YES. ABSOLUTELY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A BRIDGE BUILT WITH US 77 BACK BEFORE I 35, UH, BACK IN 1925, WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON IT'S STILL STANDING NOW IS 'CAUSE IT WAS BUILT BY THE STATE AND BUILT CORRECTLY. UM, BUT YES, ANYTIME WE'RE GONNA, UH, REPLACE A BRIDGE, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT TO THE FULL WIDEN SECTION AND ENSURE EVERYTHING GETS DONE CORRECTLY. AND JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. I'VE JUST BEEN READING ABOUT IT. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME QUESTION BECAUSE THE CITY GAVE 1.7 MILLION IN INCENTIVES, SO WE ARE ALREADY GIVING 1.7 MILLION. SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT A WHOLE PICTURE BEFORE WE START. YEAH. I THINK TO TAG ON TO JEFF'S WHERE HE STARTED, UM, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION AS A CITY AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE POPULATION, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING THE HOMES, AND I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT EITHER, BUT THERE'S ALL KINDS OF COSTS THAT WE'RE BEARING AS CITIZENS FOR THEM TO BUILD MORE CONSTRUCTION AND, YOU KNOW, ARGUABLY LESS WATER, IT COST US MORE. THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT WE ARE BEARING OR WE'RE SUFFERING FROM. AND I, IN MY OPINION, IF I WAS KING FOR A DAY, I'D STOP ALL NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT SOME SERIOUS THINGS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER AND SEWER AND DECIDE AS A COMMUNITY CAN WE SUPPORT THE CONTINUED EXPANSION OF HOMES AND EXPANDING INTO TERRITORIES THAT WEREN'T INITIALLY INTENDED, LIKE ARCADIA AND LOGAN COUNTY AND SOUTH OF THE TURNPIKE. AND, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GROWN OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS ON THE EEDA AND DR. GOEN AND I GOT INTO IT PRETTY HARD WHEN HE WANTED TO GO TO ARCADIA. AND I SAID, WELL NOW WE GOTTA RUN BUSES OUT THERE. WE GETTING ANY MONEY FOR THAT? SO I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY HAVE A PAUSE AND REALLY LOOK AT THE TOTAL PICTURE, NOT JUST A BRIDGE HERE OR A WIDENING OF A ROAD, BUT WATER RESOURCES, SEWER RESOURCES, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS, EVEN AS WE START TO LOOK AT THESE. BUT THAT'S, WELL, I, I DO THINK THAT'S A WORTHY CONSIDERATION AND, AND PROBABLY THERE'S LOTS OF COMMITTEES AND, AND BOARDS THAT ARE ALL LOOKING AT THAT. UM, AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA SAY LET'S NOT CONSIDER THAT, BUT I DO WANT US TO KEEP FOCUSED ON THE CIP PROJECTS. SURE. THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WE DO HAVE A LIMITED TIME, UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO LOOK AT ALL OF 'EM. AND THEN AS WE GET INTO BUDGETING CONVERSATIONS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT ARE THERE OTHER FUNDS AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S FROM DEVELOPERS OR, UH, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL MONEY OR WHATEVER. BUT, UH, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE SO THAT WE CAN WORK TO PRIORITIZE AND THEN WORK IN THE BUDGET. AND IF THERE'S DEVELOPMENT IMPACT DOLLARS OR FEDERAL DOLLARS OR OTHER THINGS THAT CAN, THAT CAN KIND OF COVER THAT. AND KIND OF BACK TO JEFF'S QUESTION BEFORE IS EVEN AT LOOKING AT THESE TIMEFRAMES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TOO. MM-HMM . BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THE COST, OKAY, WELL WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? CAN WE KNOCK THAT OUT? CAN WE KNOCK THIS OUT? WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE LONGER? I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. MM-HMM . IT REALLY IS. YEAH. BRAD, FOR, FOR NEXT TIME, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT MAYBE IF THERE'S BEEN DESIGN OR IF WE NEED TO AND WHAT THOSE YEAH, I'M GONNA MENTION THAT ADD TO THIS SHEET. YEAH, FOR SURE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I DO HAVE A, IT'S EASY QUESTION. SURE. THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FULL COST OF THE PROJECT DESIGN CONSULTANTS, CONSTRUCTION? I MEAN, IS IT IN ITS ENTIRETY? YEAH. YEAH. MOST OF THESE ARE PRETTY HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES BECAUSE A LOT OF 'EM DON'T HAVE FULLY DEVELOPED DESIGN IN AN ENGINEERED COST ESTIMATE. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF OUR BEST GUESS BASED ON CURRENT BIDDING
MARKET PRICES WE'VE SEEN FOR THINGS RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION COST, UH, UTILITY RELOCATION, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO IT. YEAH. YEAH. IT SHOULD BE ALL IN COST THOUGH. YEAH. AND THEN I THINK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN THINK ABOUT, UH, IF WE DO IT IN 28 AND THEN IF WE DO IT IN 38, WE CAN THINK ABOUT A SCALER OF HOW MUCH THAT INFLATION WILL COVER. EXACTLY. RIGHT. BUT AT LEAST WE CAN START WITH KIND OF A BASELINE AND WHAT IT'S, YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THE SECOND ONE ON THE LIST, UH, YOU'LL SEE THERE IN EAST EDMOND POST ROAD FROM 33RD TO SECOND STREET. SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THE WORKS THERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WIDENING POST TO FOUR LANES AND HAVING A TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE IN THE CENTER IN PREPARATION FOR THE OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY PROJECT. UH, THIS ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PROTECTED BIKE LANE THAT WAS, UH, CALLED OUT AN EDMUND SHIFT. IT'S JUST WIDENING THE LANES, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BETTER HANDLE THE CAPACITY THAT COMES WHEN TURNPIKE AUTHORITY PUTS THE ON AND OFF RAMPS AT POST ROAD. HEY BRAD, WHAT IS THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY PROJECT? ? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT'S, IT, THEY HAVE A PLAN THAT SHIFTS KINDA LIKE ODO T'S EIGHT YEAR PLAN, BUT, UH, WE WERE TOLD LIKE WITHIN TWO YEARS THEY'RE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO BID THAT OUT. SO, UH, COULD MOVE UP, COULD MOVE BACK. BUT AS OF LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO THEY SAID, UH, IT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS OUT. I'M SORRY, WHAT IS IT? IS IT EXTENDING THE TURNPIKE ON AND OFF RAMPS AT POST ROAD? AT ON POST, YEP. YEAH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE, THE SECOND PROJECT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WIDENING THE BRIDGES, UH, THAT CROSS OVER THE DEEP FORK, WHICH IS SOUTH OF EDMOND. AND THEN THE NEXT NEXT PROJECT WILL BE TO PICK UP FROM THERE AND WIDEN TO THE EAST. ALL RIGHT. DANFORTH ROAD. YEAH. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. UH, NUMBER THREE ON THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE SANDY'S HOVERING AROUND IT THERE. UH, SO THIS IS DANFORTH ROAD WIDENING FROM HOLLY HILL TO THOMAS DRIVE, AND THE PLAN THERE IS TO WIDEN TWO FIVE LANES AND IMPROVE THE FRETS AND DANFORTH INTERSECTION THAT'S RIGHT NEAR EDMOND NORTH HIGH SCHOOL. UH, ANTICIPATED COST, THERE'S 9.19 MILLION. UH, WE HAVE ALREADY ACQUIRED SOME OF THE NECESSARY RIGHT OF WAY FOR THIS ONE. UH, STEVE WORKED TO GET THAT THROUGH A WATERLINE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WE HAD IN THIS VICINITY. SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DANFORTH, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM EDMOND NORTH. SO, UH, THAT WORKS. IS THAT MOVING UTILITIES? IS THAT IS WHAT SOME, IS SOME OF THAT COST OF MOVING UTILITIES? SURE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. UTILITY RELOCATION AND ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS WOULD BE FIGURED INTO THAT 9.19 MILLION THERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. SANTA FE AND EDMOND ROAD. UH, SO YOU'RE PROBABLY SUSPICIOUS OF THE NICE ROUND $3 MILLION NUMBER THERE, . I AM TOO, DON'T WORRY. SO, UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S TIED TO THE SS FOUR A GRANT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK OUT OF THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY. ALL THE OTHER CORRIDOR STUDIES, THOSE ARE ALL TIED TO THE SS FOUR A PROGRAM. THIS ONE AND THE NEXT ONE ON OUR LIST WERE IDENTIFIED AS DEMONSTRATION PROJECT LOCATIONS. SO AS PART OF THE GRANT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT TEMPORARY, IT HAS TO BE A TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENT TO IMPROVE THE CAPACITY AND SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTION. THIS 3 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO BASICALLY TAKE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE TEMPORARY DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS AND MAKE PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE AT BOTH OF THESE LOCATIONS, WE WOULD BE INSTALLING DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANES TO HELP WITH CAPACITY. UH, AND THESE LOCATIONS WERE SELECTED FOR THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS IN THE SS FOUR A PROGRAM BASED ON BEING IN THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK. UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EDMOND SHIFT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PUBLIC AND STAFF. SO, UH, THAT'S THE SANTA FE AND EDMOND ROAD INTERSECTION AND THE KELLY AND EDMUND ROAD INTERSECTION AND DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANES ON BOTH OF THOSE. CORRECT? YEP. THE
NEXT ONE ON THE LIST IS THE COVE AND WESTERN, UH, NUMBER SIX THERE. SO SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT'S IN EDMOND BECAUSE IT DOES EXTEND PAST THE NORMAL WEST BOUNDARY, BUT THAT IS IN FACT EDMOND AND IT'S CURRENTLY A FOUR-WAY STOP THAT BACKS UP PRETTY SEVERELY, UH, IN MORNING AND EVENING PEAK TRAFFIC EVENTS. UM, THE, WE HAVE A DESIGN ONGOING FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, WITH A CONSULTANT TO INSTALL A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT AT THIS LOCATION. UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING OUR FIRST DELIVERABLE FROM THE CONSULTANT ON 30% PLANS IN OCTOBER. UH, SO THIS ONE'S IN PROGRESS AS FAR AS TIMELINE GOES. LIKE I SAID, ALREADY HAVE THE DESIGN MONEY SET ASIDE. THE DESIGN IS ONGOING. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP THE DESIGN OF THIS EARLY 27, UH, WHICH WOULD ENABLE US TO BID IT OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, LATE FIRST QUARTER, EARLY SECOND QUARTER 27, AND CONSTRUCTION COULD GET GOING, UH, AS SOON AS, YOU KNOW, UH, SUMMER OF 27. AND, AND I'LL SAY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT WE GET THE MOST TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS ABOUT. UM, IT WAS GOBEL AND AIR DEPOT AND THIS ONE, UH, BASICALLY 'CAUSE ALL OF THE REST OF COVELL HAD IMPROVEMENTS WITH SIGNALS AND IN GENERAL TRAFFIC FLOWS PRETTY WELL. IT GETS TO THAT FOUR-WAY STOP. IT BACKS UP ALL DIRECTIONS AND WE, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT IT. I WAS GONNA ASK WHERE THIS ONE ENDED UP ON THE PAVING THE WAY SURVEYS AND THINGS, BUT IT, IT WAS DEFINITELY IDENTIFIED, IT WAS NOT THE HIGHEST ON COVELL. 'CAUSE COLTRANE, BRYAN AND SANTA FE WERE ALL HIGHER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS NEXT ON THE LIST. WELL, I DRIVE IT, IT IS A PAIN. OKAY. TYPICALLY AREN'T ROUNDABOUTS QUICKER THAN DOING OTHER PROJECTS. THEY SHOULD BE, YEAH. UH, THE, THE DIFFICULTY ON THIS ONE IS GONNA BE UTILITY RELOCATION. YEAH. PARTICULARLY WITH POWER POLES. YEAH. UM, THAT LIKE TO HAVE STRAIGHT LINES. AND SO, UM, BUT I, I THINK, UH, JUST BUYING THE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, GETTING UTILITIES MOVED. BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY QUICK, THERE'S NOT A LONG LEAD TIME ON SIGNAL EQUIPMENT LIKE WE HAVE WITH OTHERS. UM, SO A, A PRETTY QUICK ONE. UM, OKLAHOMA COUNTY HAS PLANS FOR ROUNDABOUTS WEST OF THIS ON COVELL. THEY WORK REALLY WELL WHEN THEY WORK IN, UH, A SERIES. AND SO, UH, AND THE TRAFFIC, PARTICULAR TRAFFIC PATTERN WE HAVE AT THIS INTERSECTION, IT IT, THEY SHOULD WORK WELL. YEAH. BRAD, I'M GONNA JUMP AHEAD OF YOU JUST AGAIN REAL QUICK. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS, UM, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT LIST COVELL, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM YOU HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION FOR COVELL FROM, UH, WHAT COLTRANE TO SANTA FE. IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF ALL THOSE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS OR IS THAT IN ADDITION TO SO THE INDIVIDUALLY IDENTIFIED COVELL ONES ARE NOT WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR. THEY'RE JUST INTERSECTIONS FOR THE MOST PART. YEAH. SO COVELL AND WESTERN, I GUESS YOU GOT BRIAN COVELL, EXCUSE ME. BUT THE TWO THAT I MENTIONED AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT WERE NOT ON THIS LIST BEING COLTRANE AND SANTA FE, THOSE ARE ONLY LUMPED INTO THE BOTTOM THERE. BUT THE BOTTOM ONE IS ALSO INCLUSIVE OF THE BRYANT AND COVELL. SO THAT BOTTOM ONE, BUT THE WESTERN, BUT THE WESTERN ONE IS OUTSIDE OF THAT. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S PAST. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU DID THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM, YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THE INDIVIDUAL BRYANT AND COVE OR COVELL AND COLTRANE OR, UH, COVELL AND SANTA FE. YEAH. AS WE GET INTO THOSE, WE CAN KIND OF DISCUSS WHETHER IT'S BETTER TO BREAK 'EM UP OR HOW TO DO 'EM. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN SOME REQUESTS FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS, DOING IT ALL TOGETHER, UM, FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. THATCHER THATCHER STREET IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT ONE'S PROBABLY TRICKY FOR SOME OF YOU TO IDENTIFY IF YOU'RE NOT DOWNTOWN EDMOND TOO OFTEN. SO THAT'S NUMBER SEVEN THERE WHERE SANDY'S KIND OF HOVERING. SO THE PLAN WITH THIS ONE WOULD BE TO ADD A PROTECTED BIKE LANE, UH, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FROM FRETS TO BROADWAY ON THATCHER. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY ON BROADWAY TO AYERS. AYERS IS THE STREET THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT GREEN PAINTED BIKE LANE, UH, THAT GREEN PAINTED BIKE LANE CURRENTLY ENDS AT AYERS AND BROADWAY. SO THIS WOULD VIRTUALLY BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT BIKE LANE ALONG THATCHER TO FRETS TO PICK UP PEDESTRIANS
THAT ARE IN THE FRETS VICINITY. AND THIS ONE WAS, UH, IDENTIFIED IN EDMUND SHIFT AS A PROJECT AND IT GOT QUITE A BIT OF TRACTION DURING THE GEO BOND PROCESS FROM THAT COMMITTEE. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND BRING IT BACK AGAIN, SEE IF ANYBODY STILL HAD INTEREST IN IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. WATERLOO FROM HALF A MILE EAST OF BRYANT TO SANTA FE. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT IS THE BORDER THAT IS THE PORTION OF WATERLOO THAT'S ON OUR NORTH BORDER. UH, WE GO UP TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD. SO THE COST THAT YOU SEE FOR THAT ONE, THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY HALF OF THE ANTICIPATED COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE WIDENING TO FOUR LANES. AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT ONE OF THE, UH, TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANES DOWN THE CENTER THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH LOGAN COUNTY THAT WE WOULD BE AFTER THEY HAVE CONTACTED US IN THE PAST. UH, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN A PRIORITY, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC FOR US TO EXPEND FUNDS ON WATERLOO BECAUSE IT IS JUST A SHARED BORDER AND WE OWN HALF OF IT. BUT IF, UH, STEAM GETS BEHIND IT, THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT. YEAH, WE DID PARTNER WITH OKLAHOMA COUNTY, LOGAN COUNTY ON A GRANT PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE A, BASICALLY A STUDY OF THIS CORRIDOR. UM, AND SO WE, WE INDICATED WE WOULD PARTNER WITH THEM ON THE, ON THE STUDY ITSELF. UH, THEY WERE NOT AWARDED THAT BUILD GRANT. SO IT, THAT'S NOT MOVING FORWARD AT THE, AT THE MOMENT. IS THERE A PLAN TO RESURFACE WATERLOO, UH, THAT PORTION OF WATERLOO WITHIN, BETWEEN NOW AND THE US SENIOR OPEN WATERLOO'S IN REALLY BAD SHAPE? AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A SHARED PROJECT, THAT'S WHY I ASK. YEAH, IT'S, I, I LOOKED AT THE PCI FOR OUR SHARED BORDER OF WATERLOO. UM, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY ON OUR LIST. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF THE, THE TOUR COMING HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN, UH, SO WE'LL CERTAINLY EVALUATE THAT. WELL, THEY'RE CERTAINLY BUILDING RETAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WATERLOO PRETTY FAST. YEAH. LIKE WHERE DOLLAR GENERAL IS AND YEAH. SO IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE. ALL RIGHT. BRIAN COVELL? YEAH, NEXT ONE, BRYANT AND COVELL. SO, UH, THIS ONE WE'VE GOT CLOSE TO 30 MILLION SHOWN THERE. THIS WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE CONFIGURATION OF BRYANT AND COVELL. SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL LANES AT EACH LEG GOING FROM THE SPAN WIRE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE TO THE STANDARD, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC POLE WITH A MASKED ARM, UM, PERMANENT SIGNAL CONFIGURATION. UH, THERE WOULD ALSO BE WIDENING IN EACH DIRECTION IF NEEDED. SO I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT, UH, ON BRYANT SOUTH THERE CERTAINLY DOING SOME WIDENING 'CAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WIDER AT, UH, BRYANT AND DANFORTH ABOUT HALFWAY UP TO COVELL, IT PINCHES DOWN, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A BAD PINCH POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE MERGING TOGETHER. AND THEN YOU END UP WITH A PRETTY GOOD, UH, WAIT TIME THERE, UH, FROM THE APPROACH. YEAH. AND YOU'RE GOING UPHILL. EXACTLY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE BRYANT AND COVELL ONE IS. AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT COULD EITHER GO INDIVIDUALLY OR AS PART OF THAT, UH, LAST PROJECT ON THE LIST THERE, THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT. YEAH. THIS MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF, BUT AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT NEXT MONTH AND KIND OF BEING ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THESE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE THREE SEPARATED AND THEN WE CAN EITHER MOVE 'EM TOGETHER SURE. OR SEPARATE 'EM OUT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. HEY, THIS IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, BUT, UM, EXPLAIN THE COLOR CODES ON THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. IT'S JUST PRETTY OKAY. YEAH. . YEAH, GRAY AND WHITE GETS A LITTLE OKAY. BORING. SO TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY ENGAGED, MYSELF INCLUDED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. UH, COFFEE CREEK AND BROADWAY. SO, UH, THIS ONE POSSIBLE RAILROAD UNDERPASS AND ADDITIONAL LANES ON COFFEE CREEK. THIS WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE CONFIGURATION AT THIS LOCATION. SO, UH, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS HERE
THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT THIS 20 MILLION WOULD BE MORE GEARED TOWARDS THE ULTIMATE. SO THAT INCLUDES AN UNDERPASS OF THE RAILWAY AND THE INTERSECTION. NOT, NOT NECESSARILY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE DESIGN WOULD LEAD US TO WHAT THE MOST FEASIBLE OPTION IS. YOU'RE IN A TOUGH SPOT THERE BECAUSE OF YOUR PROXIMITY TO THE RAILROAD. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. OBTAINING RIGHT OF WAY FROM BNSF IS A TRICKY PROCESS. YEAH. SO IT'S A LONG PROCESS. YEAH. WE, WE WOULD EVALUATE ALL OPTIONS WITH TRYING TO FIX OUR INTERSECTION AND ALSO NOT GET STUCK IN A, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEAR HOLDING PATTERN WITH BNSF AND TRYING TO DO. SO YEAH. SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA FOR RIGHT AWAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE ARE LOOKING AT A INTERIM PROJECT FOR THE NORTH SOUTH LANES RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE THERE'S ISSUES WITH WHEN THERE'S A TRAIN PEOPLE TURNING LEFT, PEOPLE CAN'T GET THROUGH THERE. AND THE TRAFFIC THAT VOLUMES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THERE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN YOU MIGHT SUSPECT. UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INTERIM SOLUTION, UM, WITH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS IMMEDIATELY, WHAT THAT WOULD BE AND MAKING SURE WE ACQUIRE ENOUGH FOR THE ULTIMATE GOAL. UH, THE 20 MILLION WOULD NOT INCLUDE AN UNDERPASS. WE COULD ADD, WE COULD EASILY DOUBLE THAT NUMBER. UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT ANYWAY WHEN WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE ULTIMATE INTERSECTION AND, AND OVERALL NEEDS IN, IN EDMOND FOR UNDERPASSES. SO YEAH. AND IF WE DO AN UNDERPASS, PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WHEN THERE'S A TRAIN. WHEN THERE'S A TRAIN, YEAH. IT SAYS DON'T TURN. THEY JUST FREEZE LIKE A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS AND IT'S JUST LIKE, UH, CAN YOU MOVE OUT OF THE WAY? AND IF THERE IS AN UNDERPASS, IF WE DO TRY TO DO THAT, THE RAILROAD DOESN'T REALLY PITCH IN TOO MUCH FOR THAT, DO THEY? THEY DO NOT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEIR APPROVAL AND THEY HAVE TO BE ON SITE WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT AND THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT A SEVEN. I REMEMBER THAT. IT'S ABOUT A, IT'S A, YEAH, EXACTLY. IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. BROADWAY AND 15TH. SO THIS ONE WOULD INCLUDE WIDENING 15TH ON THE WEST LEG TO SIX LANES, BASICALLY STOPPING THERE AT THE RAILROAD. UM, SO THERE'S ANOTHER TRAFFIC ISSUE. THIS ONE SHOWED UP ON THE HEAT MAP. SOME, UH, ANOTHER ONE THAT'S COMPLICATING WITH THE RAILROAD. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OPTIONS ARE LIMITED THAT THE REASON WHY THE COST IS LOW ON THIS ONE IS 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ACTUALLY AFFECTING THE RAILROAD. THIS IS LIKE WHAT WE COULD TRY TO DO THAT'S SHORT OF JUST AGAINST THAT INTERSECTION. YEAH. WITHIN THAT BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION AND THE RAILROAD. SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR BEST GUESS AT WHAT THAT NEEDS. WE WOULD GET SOME DESIGN ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT, UH, WIDENING THAT WEST LEG TO SIX LANES I THINK WOULD HELP SOME OF THAT THERE. YEAH. THEY CRAM SO MUCH RETAIL INTO THOSE CORNERS THAT YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S JUST A CLUSTER . YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FIX IT ACTUALLY. I STILL DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACK AND WELL, IT'S THE RAILROAD TRACK. YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM TO DO. THAT'S VERY, EVEN IF YOU DO, YOU PINCH BACK DOWN AT THE RAILROAD. YEAH. YEAH. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE, COVE AND PENN. SO THIS ONE, AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY THINK OF COVE AND PENN BEING IN EDMOND. IT IS HALF OF IT IS AT LEAST, UM, THIS ONE WOULD BE ANOTHER THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY POTENTIALLY. UM, AS STEVE MENTIONED, THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN ROUNDABOUTS ALONG COVELL, UH, OUT PAST PENN AND WITH THEM WORKING BEST IN IN SERIES LIKE THAT. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER POTENTIAL LOCATION FOR A ROUNDABOUT. DOES OKLAHOMA CITY PITCH IN? THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA. YEAH, WE WOULD WANNA DO A PARTNERSHIP. THEY DID REACH OUT TO US, UH, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT IT. UM, AND THEN I THINK IT KIND OF FELL OFF THEIR PRIORITY LIST. AND SINCE IT'S ONLY HALF IN EDMOND, WE WEREN'T WILLING TO BE THE LEADERS ON IT TRYING TO PUSH IT FORWARD. YEAH. THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS JUST COMPLETELY IN OKLAHOMA COUNTY. IT'S ACTUALLY JUST OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA CITY CITY LIMITS. SO IT WOULD JUST BE OKLAHOMA COUNTY WE'RE PARTNERING WITH ON THAT ONE. YEAH. YEAH. SO, ALL RIGHT, NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. DANFORTH AND SOONER. SO WE'VE RECENTLY DONE WORK THERE THAT IS AN INTERIM PROJECT, ANOTHER SPAN WIRE SIGNAL. UH, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE PERMANENT FIX AND I KNOW IT IS STILL DIFFICULT
TO GET THROUGH THERE, BUT, UH, THE HOPE IS THE INTERIM PROJECT BUYS US A FEW YEARS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE AND DO SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT AND ULTIMATE. SO THE PLAN THERE WOULD BE TO WIDEN TO FOUR LANES, UH, DEDICATED LEFT AND RIGHT TURNS, INSTALL THE PERMANENT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SIDEWALKS. ONE OF THE ISSUES THERE AND WHY WE OPTED TO GO THE INTERIM ROUTE, IF YOU'RE EVER DRIVING THROUGH THERE AND YOU'RE ON THE WEST LEG OF THE INTERSECTION, RIGHT JUST WEST OF THE INTERSECTION, THE SLOPE IS CRAZY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. SO YOU WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF DIRT WORK, BUNCH OF FILL AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. YOU'D HAVE TO BASICALLY REDO THE ENTIRE DITCH THROUGH THERE. UM, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A COST THAT HIGH FOR WHAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD BE A PRETTY SIMPLE DO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE TOPOGRAPHY? I MEAN, DON'T YOU HAVE TO RAISE IT? 'CAUSE IT CAN BE CERTAIN YEAH, EXACTLY. ON THE FEET. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO BECAUSE OF THOSE ISSUES, THAT'S WHY THE TEMPORARY, UH, PROJECT MOVE FORWARD AND WE WAIT A LOT AND THE LIGHT'S HELPING A LITTLE. YEAH. IT'S NOT HELPING A LOT. I GO THERE EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT HELPING A LOT, BUT IT'S HELPING A LITTLE. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'VE DONE AN INTERIM PROJECT AT AIR DEPOT AND COVE. UH, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE AN ULTIMATE, UH, OPTION THERE THAT IS UNDER DESIGN. I THINK WE PROGRESSED IT TO ABOUT 60% DESIGN AND THEN WE PUT IT ON THE SHELF TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS HAPPENING. ALL OF THOSE DETAILS NEEDED TO FILL IN. SO WE'VE DONE THE INTERIM PROJECT, WHICH YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, WHICH IS THE SPAN WIRE SIGNAL THERE AS WELL. WE'VE ADDED THE PROTECTED LEFT TURN LANES. SO THIS, UH, ULTIMATE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL LANES AT EACH LEG AND WIDENING IN EACH DIRECTION AS NEEDED. UH, SO LUCKILY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD A LANE AT EACH LEG WITH THIS INTERIM PROJECT TO LESSEN THE BURDEN OF THIS ULTIMATE BUILD OUT WHEN WE WERE TO GET, WOULD BE TO GET TO THAT POINT. I WILL SAY I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE DURING SCHOOL TIMES, BUT THE RUSH HOUR COMING HOME HAS BEEN MUCH BETTER WITH GOOD A TURN LANE AND A LIGHT. SO IT'S BEEN GOOD. GOOD, GOOD TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST, UH, THE WHOLE COVELL CORRIDOR THERE FROM SANTA FE TO COLTRANE, WHICH ACTUALLY IT WOULD EXTEND A LITTLE BIT PAST SANTA FE BECAUSE WE WOULD WORK ON THE INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO ANYWHERE WHERE IT'S NOT WIDENED TO FOUR LANES, WE WOULD PICK THAT UP AS WELL SO THAT YOU'D HAVE A TRUE FOUR LANES ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND FEET WEST OF SANTA FE ALL THE WAY TO I 35. SO THAT PACKAGE TOGETHER AROUND A HUNDRED MILLION. AND THAT'S MY LIST. AND THERE'S ANOTHER LIST THAT HOPEFULLY WE'VE GOT TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT. KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, WE DO, UH, CAN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS LIST BEFORE WE MOVE ON? YEAH, NO, NO. THANKS KEN. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME ON YOUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON. UM, I WAS ASKED TO GIVE A QUICK REFRESHER ON THE EDMUND SHIFT KIND OF PROJECT AND PROGRAM. AS I'M DOING THAT, I WANNA RECOGNIZE A FEW STAFF THAT PARTICIPATED AND ARE EXPERTS IN THAT, IN THAT, THAT ARE STILL STILL ON STAFF HERE WITH US TODAY. CHRISTIE BATTERSON, STEVE LAWRENCE, AND RANDY S ARE ALL IN THE ROOM. AND THEN, UH, BRAD, HANNAH NOLAN FROM OUR OFFICE, SEAN WALLACE FROM OUR OFFICE, AND, UH, CHRISTIE, BADLY IN ENGINEERING, ARE ALL NOW FULLY ENGAGED IN THE EDMOND SHIFT PROCESS AND KEEPING IT UP TO DATE. UM, SO WHAT IS EDMOND SHIFT? UM, IT WAS BASICALLY A PLANNING PROCESS AND A MOBILITY PROGRAM DESIGNED TO MERGE TOGETHER ALL OF OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PLANNING PROJECTS THAT HAD ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 1999 TRAIL AND SIDEWALK PLAN. UM, BUT A VERY ROBUST AND THOROUGH, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PLANNING EFFORT. UH, THIS BOARD, UM, HAD REPRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THAT PROJECT AND, UH, PARTICIPATED IN ITS, UH, APPROVAL AND ADOPTION. I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF, UM, THE GOALS AND THE WAY THE SCORING CRITERIA WORKS ON THESE PROJECTS. SO, UH, EDMOND SHIFT HAS SEVEN GOALS RELATED TO,
UM, SAFETY, ACTIVE LIVING, UH, SUSTAINABILITY, PRIORITIZING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, COMPLIMENTARY APPROACHES AND TOOLS AND LAND USE AND DESIGN. UM, EACH OF THOSE HAS CRITERIA ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND WE, WE, WE DO OUR BEST TO SCORE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST. UM, USING THOSE CRITERIA. I THINK THERE'S NOW OVER 350 KIND OF ROWS OF PROJECTS IN THAT, IN THAT LIST THAT GETS SCORED. SO WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU, UM, THE KIND OF THE TOP 20 OR SO OF THAT LIST. YOU'LL NOTICE THERE IS SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN THESE AND, UM, SOME OF THE ONES THAT BRAD HAS ALREADY SHARED. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL TRY TO MOVE DILIGENTLY THROUGH THAT. AND MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND HELPING ME KEEP AN EYE ON THE CLOCK, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT. RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA WORTH, WORTH, UH, WORTH HAVING THAT MEETING FOR. UM, SO LET'S GET STARTED. IF WE GO TO THE MAP, PLEASE. SO THE FIRST, UH, FIRST PROJECT ON THE LIST IS BOULEVARD. AND YOU'LL SEE THIS REFERENCED A COUPLE TIMES THE SUBCATEGORY THAT WE REFER TO AS A RETROFIT. UM, SO THIS IS BOULEVARD FROM DANFORTH TO EDMUND ROAD OR SECOND STREET. AND, UM, WHEN WE MEAN RETROFIT, WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING IS WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING, UH, ACQUIRING ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY. WE'RE JUST GONNA WORK WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE AND TRY TO MAKE, UM, TRY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCREASE SAFETY AND MOBILITY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT ON BOULEVARD IN THIS AREA. MAY I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT? SURE. I'M LOOKING AT THE TYPE AND THE COST THAT ARE THE COLUMNS AT THE FAR END. THIS IS DESIGNATED AS A STUDY. DO YOU SEE WHERE I'M LOOKING? THIS IS MAP ID ONE BOULEVARD. YEAH, YOU GO TO THE VERY END. SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES THAT I CAN SEE ON HERE. THERE'S STUDIES, CONSTRUCTION AND QUICK BUILDS. AND OF THE 22 PROJECTS ON HERE, I MEAN THE, THE MAJORITY ARE STUDIES, SO THAT'S, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, ON THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INITIAL, LIKE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE INTERSECTIONS THROUGH THERE. SO THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S ONE SIGNALED INTERSECTION ALONG THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW AT AIRS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES MAYBE FOR SIGNALIZATION. UM, SO WE, WE'D WANT TO LEAD THAT WITH A STUDY IN, IN THIS EXAMPLE THAT COULD BE COMBINED WITH CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. UM, AND IT'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONGOING AS LIKE STANDALONE STUDIES AS WELL. AND SO THE ESTIMATED COST OF $11 MILLION, THAT'S NOT THE COST OF THE STUDY. THAT'S, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE NOT. I WOULD HOPE NOT TOO. SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE OUR ESTIMATE ON IF WE WANTED TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF IDENTIFIED THERE. I SEE. IN TERMS OF ADA, A COMPLIANCE CLARIFICATION, UM, IMPROVING THAT BIKE FACILITY OR THE, THE SIDE PATH AND GREAT. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. CAN I ASK A FUN, JUST A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. I KNOW YOU DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY, UH, MOBILITY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF CITY PLANNING? YEAH, SO, UH, WE USE THE TERM MOBILITY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE NETWORK IS, UM, SAFE AND COMFORTABLE NO MATTER WHAT MODE YOU CHOOSE TO USE. AND IT PROVIDES A VARIETY OF CHOICES AND OPTIONS SO THAT ALL, ALL THE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT PROVIDE IN TERMS OF CAN YOU WALK, CAN YOU BIKE, CAN YOU DRIVE, CAN YOU TAKE A BUS? UM, ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE SHOULD YOU CHOOSE THEM. O OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE AT A HIGH LEVEL, I'VE BEEN A SOMEONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN TERRIBLY SUPPORTIVE. UH, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY, OF ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR, UM, TRAILS IN THE COMMUNITY UNTIL WE GET OUR A HANDLE ON OUR STREETS. UM, BUT NONETHELESS, A LOT OF MONEY, MILLIONS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAS BEEN SPENT ON TRAILS, ARCADIA, ET CETERA. THE IDEA IS KEEPING IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE BIKING, RIGHT? OR, OR HIKING OR WALKING OR WHATEVER. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, JUST AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S A, THIS ALSO IS GETTING PEOPLE ON OUR ROADS AND STREETS WITH BIKES AND WALKING. SO, WHICH IS THE PRIORITY ON OUR ROADS AND STREETS? OR IS IT TRAILS? 'CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. UM, I, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO THREAD THE
NEEDLE THERE AND, UM, BASED THE PRIORITY ON THE, THE CONSTRAINTS OR THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT AND, UM, TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ACCOMMODATING ALL OF THOSE NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S, UH, A FACILITY IN ITS OWN RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE A TRAIL OR, UM, HAVING A, A SAFE PLACE THAT'S SEPARATED FOR, FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS. OKAY. MOVING ALONG HERE. THE, THE SECOND ONE ON THE LIST IS COLTRANE ROAD. AND, UM, THAT IS, UM, ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A, AS A RETROFIT. THERE'S A KIND OF A, A PRETTY CHALLENGING GOAL OR POLICY IN EDMOND SHIFT TO WORK TOWARDS ELIMINATING WHAT WE REFER TO AS UNDIVIDED R TWO OH ROADS. WE HAVE A LOT OF FOUR LANE, UM, UNDIVIDED ROADS. AND WHAT, WHAT UNDIVIDED MEANS IS IT'S JUST THE DOUBLE YELLOW STRIPES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE ROADWAY. UM, THERE ARE SAFER APPROACHES TO, TO DEALING WITH THAT. IT'S JUST EXTREMELY CHALLENGING WHEN YOU'RE, YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT CONDITION, UM, ON THE GROUND. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK TO DO TO, UH, WORK TOWARDS ELIMINATING THOSE UNDIVIDED FACILITIES. UM, NEXT ONE, UH, BROADWAY FROM DANFORTH TO SECOND. UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A, WE'VE DONE SOME WORK STUDYING THAT TO, UM, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, KIND OF TRANSITION MORE GRACEFULLY FROM THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT IN DOWNTOWN TO DANFORTH. AND, UM, ALSO PROVIDE, UH, CLEAR PATHS FOR W WALKING AND, AND BIKING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, WHETHER THAT'S IN THE CORRIDOR ITSELF OR IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ITSELF OR ADJACENT TO, UM, THE NEXT THREE ON THE LIST, 33RD STREET, BRYANT AVENUE, KELLY AVENUE, THOSE ARE CORRIDOR STUDIES. UM, YOU'LL SEE THERE IN THE FAR LEFT, THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, TWO OF THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS FUNDED. SO THAT IS THE SS FOUR A GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE WERE AWARDED THAT BRAD REFERENCED EARLIER. AND THOSE STUDIES ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW. COVELL ROAD, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT THAT'S APPEARS ON THIS LIST AS WELL. OBVIOUSLY A VERY HIGH SCORING PROJECT AND WOULD BE COVERED BY, UM, COMPONENTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, I THINK BRAD DID A GOOD JOB COVERING COVERING THOSE. SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO, UM, CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE UNLESS THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION. UH, CHING AVENUE NUMBER EIGHT. SO THEY'RE, UH, NEAR THE UCO CAMPUS. SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY THERE TO, UH, INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, PEOPLE TO SAFELY CROSS AND GET UP AND DOWN CHOWNING, WHETHER THAT'S UCO STUDENTS OR, UH, STUDENTS AT SEQUOIA MIDDLE SCHOOL OR NORTHERN HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE CLOSE TO LOTS OF FACILITIES LIKE THAT, UM, IT IS EASY TO HAVE A HIGH SCORE IN THE, IN THIS, UH, USING THIS METHODOLOGY, UH, BOULEVARD. ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER CORRIDOR STUDY THAT WE'RE HOPING TO, TO UNDERTAKE, OF COURSE, THAT THIS IS THE SOUTHERN, UM, COMPONENT OF A BOULEVARD. YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBER NINE THERE ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE MAP. C CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS EDMUND SHIFT STUDY? HOW DID IT GO OUT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED? WE, UH, I GUESS WHICH COMPONENT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT, WHAT EX WHICH COMPONENT OF THE, OF EDMUND SHIFT ARE REFERRING TO ON THAT? WE, I YOU KEEP REFERRING TO, YOU KNOW, THE RANKINGS. SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE PROCESS WAS FOR THAT? UM, YEAH, SO THE, THE OVERALL PROCESS FOR THE MOBILITY PLAN, UM, WAS A 18 MONTH PROCESS TO, UM, LIKE I SAID, STITCH ALL THE PLANS THAT WERE IN PLACE TOGETHER THAT WERE RELATED TO VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, OR MOBILITY OR LIKE THE BIKE PLAN, UH, THE BIKE AND TRAILS PLAN, THE PARKS AND REC PLAN. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, THE SCORING CRITERIA ARE BASED ON THE, THE GOALS THAT RESULTED FROM THAT, THAT ENGAGEMENT. AND, AND WHO WAS INVOLVED IN SCORING? UM, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. SO THE, THE WHO, WHO SCORED 'EM AND PUT 'EM IN RANKING, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE ORDER OF KIND OF PRIORITY. OH, OKAY. SO THE, THE CONSULTANT TEAM ESTABLISHED THE MODEL THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY WORKS THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND GIVES THEM A SCORE.
SO HAS THE PUBLIC SEEN THIS, YOU KNOW, RANKING AND THIS LISTING OH, OH, YEAH. AND VOTED ON IT SOMEHOW, OR YOU, HUH? WELL, WAS THERE SOME, DID SOMEBODY LIKE WEIGH IN AND SAY, YEAH, WE, WE LIKE THESE PROJECTS, AND THERE WAS SOME SORT OF RESPONSE RATE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY EDMOND CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THIS AND SAY, IS, ARE THESE PRIORITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY OVER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. YEAH, JUST, JUST, I'M KIND OF WHERE JEFF IS ON INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST AND THESE THINGS ARE KIND OF NEXT. SO I THINK, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY CITIZENS OF EDMOND WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE INVOLVED IN, RIGHT. SO THE, THE EDMOND SHIFT PLAN IS AN AN ADOPTED PLAN. SO IT, IT WOULD'VE RECEIVED REVIEW FROM THE, UH, WHAT WAS AT THAT POINT, THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, THE BIKE COMMITTEE, AND THE CIP BOARD, AND THEN APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL. AND, AND AS WE KEEP IT UP TO DATE, WE WILL MIMIC THAT SAME REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS. AND IN FACT, WE'RE WORKING ON A, AN UPDATE TO THE PROJECT COMPONENT OF THAT, OF THAT PLAN. RIGHT NOW. IT'LL FOLD IN THE PROJECTS THAT BRAD MENTIONED, RESULTING FROM, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK IN THE GEO BOND, THE PAVE THE WAY SURVEY, AND, UM, AND ANY KIND OF NEW PROJECTS THAT THOSE COMMITTEES OR, OR BOARDS HAVE SUGGESTED OVER TIME. HEY, KEN, HOW ON THE EDMOND SHIFT, HOW BIG WAS THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, UH, GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT CAME TOGETHER FOR THAT? SO WE HAD A STAKEHOLDER GROUP THAT HAD REPRESENTATION FROM THIS BOARD, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION BIKE COMMITTEE. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF ANYONE FROM PARKS AND REC WAS ON THERE. AND THEN CITIZENS AT LARGE, THAT BODY WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL. I THINK IT HAD 12 OR 13 PEOPLE ON IT. PEGGY, YOU MAY, YOU MAY REMEMBER. WE HAD A GOOD TIME DOING THAT. UM, SO THEY MET OVER TIME. AND THEN OF COURSE THERE WAS LOTS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PLANNING DOES, COMMUNITY MEETING SURVEYS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THAT'S ALL CAPTURED IN THE PLAN. UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, DO A FULL EDMOND SHIFT, UH, PRESENTATION FOR THIS GROUP IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO A FUTURE AGENDA. I, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I JUST, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, SO I'M SORRY IF I'M HITTING YOU BLIND, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT, UM, HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, I THINK WE HAVE 20, YOU SAID, HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, HAVE HAVE SOMETHING, SOME ELEMENT IN THEM, LIKE AN A, DA REQUIREMENT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOME SORT OF A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT IN ORDER FOR US TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE? HOW, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE REQUIRED AND NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO? HOW MANY OF 'EM ARE REQUIRED? OH, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY LOOKED AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS. WE DO FLAG, UM, WE DO FLAG A SOURCE. SO IF IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN OUR TRANSITION PLAN, OUR A DA TRANSITION PLAN, YOU WOULD SEE THAT REFERENCED HERE. UM, OF COURSE, AS A RESULT OF DOING A A CAPITAL PROJECT, WE DO OUR BEST TO BRING THAT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH A DA, RIGHT? WHETHER IT WAS SPECIFICALLY LISTED OR NOT. OKAY. YEAH. THIS MAY BE JUST A SIMPLE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT. IT MAY NOT BE, UH, ADEQUATELY DESCRIBED WHEN I THINK ABOUT EDMUND SHIFT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PROJECTS, LIKE THE LIST WE JUST WENT THROUGH ARE ROAD PROJECTS AND BRIDGES AND LIKE MOVING CARS. UM, AND I THINK ABOUT KELLY AND DANFORTH, LIKE, DID THAT, THAT HAS SIDEWALKS AND IT HAS GOOD CROSSWALKS AND, AND KEEP PEDESTRIANS SAFE IF THEY'RE WALKING ACROSS IT. BUT I THINK OF THESE AS MORE, OKAY, THOSE PROJECTS ARE MOVING CARS, THESE PROJECTS ARE MOVING PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN CARS, WHETHER IT'S PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS OR WHATEVER. UM, AND MAYBE IN PROJECTS WHERE, OKAY, WE'RE NOT DOING A ROAD PROJECT THERE AND SO WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE A GOOD SIDEWALK WHEN WE DO THE ROAD, BUT WE WANNA LOOK AT, DO WE NEED TO ADD CROSSWALKS OR SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN TRAILS AS WELL. BUT THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S OTHER MODES OF THAT THAT'S LOOKING AT, AT THESE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TRUE. I, I THINK ALSO, UH, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERLAP FROM THOSE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN FACT KIND OF HAVE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FOR VEHICLES, BUT ALSO INCLUDE, AS YOU INDICATED, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR SIDEWALKS AND, UM, SAFE CROSSINGS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE TRY TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE. UM, NUMBER 11 THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT VALE ROAD, UM,
NUMBER 12, UNIVERSITY DRIVE, UH, FROM ARIS TO SECOND. SO THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, UNIVERSITY DRIVE, THAT'S OUR FIRST PAINTED BIKE LANE EVER. AND, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH, UH, UCO, WE, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S POTENTIALLY A NEED TO, UH, MAKE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO UNIVERSITY DRIVE. UM, SO THAT WOULD, IN THAT WOULD, COULD INCLUDE, UM, ADDITIONAL SAFE CROSSINGS AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT EXISTING FACILITY, UM, FOR BICYCLES. I FEEL I'VE GOT TO, I'M SORRY, I'VE GOTTA KEEP ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. THIS IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. SO TO ME IT DOES MAKE SENSE IF YOU HAVE A, A DENSE POPULATION LIKE AROUND THE UNIVERSITY TO IMPROVE CROSSINGS, ET CETERA, FOR SAFETY. UM, SO WHY IS THAT SCORED LOW? WHEREAS I LOOK AT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE ROAD VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND NOT SO MUCH PEDESTRIAN OR BIKING TRAFFIC WOULD BE RATED HIGHER. I, I GUESS, ARE YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? ARE YOU WANTING ME TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE WITH ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S, WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING 'CAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE OF, OF A, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT GETTING PEOPLE AROUND WALKING OR BIKING IN A DENSELY POPULATED AREA, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME THAN PERHAPS ON A SECTION LINE ROAD SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S MOSTLY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TODAY. SO IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, LIKE I'VE GOT, I SEE 33RD ON SANTA FE TO MEADOW, THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE LESS DENSE. UM, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE RATED HIGHER IN YOUR SCORING THAN ONE THAT'S IN A VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREA. I'M JUST CURIOUS. OKAY. I DON'T MEAN THE JOE SPOT. SO UP THERE AT 33RD, UH, MAP ID FOUR, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. YEAH. THAT, OR EVEN COLTRANE, YOU KNOW, UH, NUMBER, YOU'VE GOT COLTRANE FROM SECOND STREET ALL THE WAY TO COVELL, WHICH IS VERY LIMITED. I MEAN, IT'S MOSTLY VEHICLES, RIGHT? NOT BIKES OR WALKING. THAT'S NUMBER TWO ON YOUR LIST VERSUS ONE THAT'S IN A DENSELY POPULATED AREA THAT'S DOWN. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE METRICS OF SCORING, REALLY. YEAH, SO, UM, SO I THINK ANYTIME YOU'VE GOT A, A PROJECT THAT IS, UM, HAS A LOT OF, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, HAS APPEARED ON A PREVIOUS PLAN. SO COLTRANE'S BEEN ON THE PLANS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. UM, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE KINDS OF THINGS THAT INFLUENCE THE SCORE AS WELL. UM, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MORE MODES YOU CAN ADDRESS WITH A PROJECT, THE MORE POINTS YOU GET FOR THAT AS WELL. SO 13 IS THE CONTINUATION OF COVE ROAD. UH, 14 IS DULY TRAIL. SO YOU SEE 14 IS KIND OF CONNECTED TO 20 THERE, WHICH THEN FEEDS INTO 22. 22 IS THATCHER THAT BRAD TALKED ABOUT. UM, THERE'S BEEN THE, THE IDEA OF A TRAIL KIND OF THROUGH THAT DULY AREA, UM, I THINK SINCE THE 1999, UH, TRAIL AND SIDEWALK PLAN, UM, THAT IS PROBABLY, YOU SEE OVER THERE IT SAYS TYPE STUDY. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WHERE, UM, MAYBE THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE EASEMENT, UM, SECURITIZATION OR AC ACQUISITION, UM, WHEN, WHEN THOSE AREAS WERE DEVELOPED, UM, NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED AND, AND THE, AND TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ALIGNMENT AND THE, THE PROJECT GENERALLY AND SEE IF THAT IS STILL, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE TO DO OR IF, IF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE, IN THE INTERIM TIME THAT, OR IN THE INTERVENING TIME THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT. UH, KELLY AVENUE NUMBER, UH, 15 ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE CITY, AGAIN, ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, CORRIDOR THAT IS, UH, WORTHY OF STUDY. YOU SEE THAT COUNTERMEASURE STUDY, THAT'S A FANCY WORD FOR, UM, WHAT ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN THAT CORRIDOR TO MAKE IT SAFER. UH, THE REMAINING PORTION OF SANTA FE AVENUE IS, IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO RETROFIT AND LOOK AT IT, TRY AND TO ELIMINATE THE, THE UNDIVIDED PORTION OF THAT, UH, BALLMAN AVENUE AND SECOND STREET INTERSECTION. SO THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S A PLACE THAT IS, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE IT, UH, SAFE TO CROSS BOTH AS A IF, UH, FOR, FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS,
MAYBE ESPECIALLY PEDESTRIANS. NUMBER 19, UH, FRETS AND DANFORTH INTERSECTION. BRAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. I'M SURE THAT, UM, IF WE, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THAT PROJECT, CERTAINLY THE SIDEWALKS AND, UH, COMING INTO CONFORMANCE WITH A DA WOULD BE PART OF THAT. UH, DULY TRAIL CONNECTOR, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. AND THEN THE HAWK LANDING TRAIL, THAT IS THE TRAIL THAT RUNS KIND OF ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THAT, UH, KELLY CROSSING OR THE, UH, THE HONEY FIELD DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO LOOKING AT CONNECTING AN EXISTING PARK AND TRAIL OVER TO THE SIDE PATHS ON KELLY. AND THEN OUR REFERENCE STATURE, UM, IS A OVERLAP WITH A, A PROJECT THAT BRAD TALKED ABOUT. DOES THAT CONCLUDES OUR LIST OF, UH, KIND OF THE TOP 20 PROJECTS FROM EDMUND SHIFT. I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER, ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ONES THAT SAY, STUDY THAT ARE PART OF AN ACTUAL STUDY VERSUS WHAT WOULD MAYBE BE THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THAT? DOES THE CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE STUDY INTERNALLY? ARE THESE ALL CONTRACTED STUDIES? UM, I, I ASSUME WE, WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY, SORRY, NOT CAPACITY EXPERTISE TO, TO DO ONE OF THOSE STUDIES. UM, OF COURSE THE TRADE OFF WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WHEN WE DO THINGS INTERNALLY, UM, EVEN IF WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE, SOMETIMES IT TAKES LONGER, UM, THAN IT WOULD IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT. BUT I THINK ALL THINGS ARE ON THE TABLE, UM, HOPING TO CONTINUE TO FIND, UH, FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP US DO THOSE STUDIES. I'M NOT SURE IF ANOTHER PROGRAM LIKE SS FOUR A IS ON ITS WAY, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY, UM, GRATEFUL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THAT PROJECT. I, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. DID THE EDMUND SHIFT COMMITTEE INCLUDE FOLKS FROM UCO AND FROM ALL THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS? 'CAUSE I SEE SOME PROJECTS ON HERE THAT ARE LIKE AROUND EDMOND NORTH OR LIKE YOU SAID, NORTHERN HILLS OR, UM, OUR, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITY BALLMAN, ALL THOSE PLACES THAT WE DO HAVE PEDESTRIANS, DID IT INCLUDE FOLKS, UM, THAT HAVE, THAT ARE REALLY STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT? UM, SO WE, UH, WE DIDN'T IN, WE DIDN'T FORMALLY INCLUDE ANYONE ON THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE FROM LIKE THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM, WE COORDINATED WITH UCO ON A LOT OF THE OUTREACH FOR THAT. UM, AND THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING PROJECTS IN THOSE AREAS IS, UM, BEING NEAR A SCHOOL TENDS TO, UM, LEND ITSELF TO, UM, A ACTIVITY CENTER OR A, A LOCATION THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A LOT OF MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. SO WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE CITYLINK BUS SERVICE ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS. SO IF YOU SEE PROJECTS IN THERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT RESOURCE. AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS INTERESTED IN HAVING NOT SAFE WAYS FOR, UM, KIDS AND PARENTS TO GET TO AND FROM SCHOOL ON THE STUDIES THAT WE'RE DOING. UM, THEY'RE OF COURSE NEAR SCHOOLS AS WELL, AND WE'RE, WE'RE STRONGLY ENGAGED WITH THE, THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN THOSE CORRIDORS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON NINTH STREET, I KNOW IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW. THANKS AGAIN. I THINK AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND KIND OF TRY TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER, WE MAY, UH, ASK FOR SOME MORE INPUT FROM, FROM YOU OR YOUR TEAM. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CITIZENS' COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS COMMITTEE? HEY TAYLOR, I'LL BE EFFICIENT. UM, TAYLOR WILSON, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF AND THIS BOARD OF ASKING FOR THE DETAILS TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT ALL THOSE PROJECTS, IT JUST VALIDATES WE HAVE MORE NEEDS THAN WE HAVE FUNDING. AND SO YOUR JOB IS GONNA GET HARDER AND HARDER EVERY DAY. SO, UH, THANK YOU. ALSO, YOU'RE GOING TO REVIEW IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, THE SECOND STREET BROADWAY CORRIDOR PLAN. AND IN THAT PLAN, UM, IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO MATH AT ALL, SO THERE'S NO FUNDING. SO IT'S ROADS, IT'S CHANGING THE WHOLE STRATEGY DESIGN CRITERIA. UM, BUT I WOULD HOPE Y'ALL CONTINUE TO DO LIKE YOU'VE DONE HERE, IS CONTINUE TO ASK WHAT'S THE CHANGE OF THE COST? 'CAUSE IT'S CHANGING THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE NOW. WHAT IS THAT DIFFERENTIAL? AND THEN WHAT'S THE TOTAL? BECAUSE ONCE THAT PLAN COMES, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE DEMAND TO POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING. THIRD, AND CHAIRMAN YOU MENTIONED IT IS THE INFLATION IN THESE NUMBERS IS REAL. YOU START INFLATING IT 8% A YEAR OR MORE. IT STARTS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER AS YOU GET FARTHER OUT YEARS. IT JUST MAKES THE FUNDING GAP EVEN HARDER. AND THEN LASTLY, I DID NOT HEAR IN THAT KELLY PROJECT,
THE OVERAGE, RIGHT? SO MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATIONS LAST MONTH, THAT THERE MAY BE A CHANGE ORDER COMING, THAT THERE IS NO FUNDING CURRENTLY ALLOCATED. SO I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN THE DISCUSSION, SO MAYBE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON YOUR AWARENESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS' COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS CAP, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT ADVISORY BOARD. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? JUST QUICKLY, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO GO AND PULL UP THE EDMUND SHIFT STUDY THAT'S AVAILABLE@EDMUNDOK.GOV. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT REALLY WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL THINGS FROM DECADES AGO AND THEN TRY TO APPLY SOME SORT OF MATRIX AND FACTORS. AND AGAIN, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED VERY HARD ON THAT. BUT TWO OF THE, THE TOP PRIORITIES FROM THEIR PRIORITY PYRAMID WAS, UH, PEDESTRIAN NETWORK AND BICY NETWORK. AGAIN, IN MY WORK ON THIS BOARD AND AROUND THE COMMUNITY, UM, DRIVEABILITY IS SO IMPORTANT AND REMAINS THE PRIORITY. AND THAT REALLY WASN'T MADE THE PRIORITY BY THE EDMUND SHIFT, UM, STUDY. AGAIN, THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO PLACE. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE APPLIED WERE EQUITY AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AGAIN, SOME OF THE SOURCES THAT ARE CITED IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWN HERE WOULD BE JUST THE BICYCLE PLAN FROM 2012, OR THE BICYCLE PLAN FROM 2012 AND THE 2024 GO BOND. AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WENT, OR THE 2006 TRANSPORTATION STUDY FROM 20 YEARS AGO. AGAIN, THINGS CHANGE, PRIORITIES CHANGE, AND CERTAINLY COUNCILS CHANGE. AND SO THE, THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL, IS NOT TIED TO THE EDMUND SHIFT PRIORITY LIST. NOW, AGAIN, WHERE THERE'S CROSSOVER, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LOOK, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE DRIVABILITY AND THINGS LIKE, UH, OF THAT NATURE. BUT, BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS IDENTIFIED IN THE TOP 22 THINGS ON EDMOND SHIFT, UH, DOES NOT TIE, UH, ANY SITTING ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY. SO AGAIN, UH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO LOOK. IT'S A 200 SOME ODD PAGE DOCUMENT THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THANK YOU. THANKS, RANDY. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR ADJOURNMENT. MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. GOT RANDY AS A FIRST AND PATRICE. AND SECOND. YEP. LADIES FIRST, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THANKS FOR PULLING THAT BOOK TOGETHER. PUSH YOUR BUTTON. YOU PUSHED IT TOO EARLY. I THINK YOU HAVE TO TIME IT JUST RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS, BILL. YEP.