1 00:17:46,860 --> 00:18:16,840 Good afternoon, everyone. We are live from Council chambers, and before we begin, I will go over the emergency response plan for this room. In an emergency, everyone must evacuate through the nearest safe exit, though seated in the gallery will take direction from security and council will take direction from the meeting clerk. After evacuating the room, please proceed to a stairwell, take the stairs to ground level and evacuate the building through the door's marked emergency exit and go to the master point. Do not take an elevator or walk through the city room. Anyone with limited mobility should identify themselves to security or the meeting clerk, chairing and evacuation, and please speak with 2 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,100 or the meeting clerk if you require first aid. 3 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Thank you and good afternoon everyone. 4 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,260 I'd like to call this meeting to order and begin with land acknowledgment. 5 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,840 At this time I'd like to acknowledge that we meet on the traditional land of Treaty 6 Territory 6 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,760 and the Macy homeland and acknowledge the diverse indigenous peoples 7 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,360 whose ancestors footsteps have marked this territory for centuries, 8 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:44,440 such as Cree, Dene, Soto, Blackfoot, Nikotasu, as well as Macy and Inuit 9 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,360 and now settlers from around the world. 10 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,800 Hello, Councillor Carmel. 11 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Good afternoon. 12 00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:19,820 Good afternoon. 13 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,660 Councillor Rice. 14 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:21,900 Good afternoon. 15 00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:22,820 Good afternoon. 16 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:23,740 Councillor Jams. 17 00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:25,300 Good afternoon. 18 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:25,940 Good afternoon. 19 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,540 All right. 20 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:28,900 Adoffton of the agenda. 21 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,060 Councillor Hamilton, would you like to do that? 22 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:33,600 Yep. 23 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,180 I'll move. 24 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,460 Adoffton of the March 10th City Councillor non-regular agenda. 25 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:42,880 Great. 26 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:45,840 And that's just with the addition of five-pointed 27 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,740 content transit services advisory report board and all report and work plan. 28 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,440 Thank you. I haven't had the the changes. No problem. 29 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Great. Please vote. 30 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Yes. 31 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,580 Council of Prince. It is yes. 32 00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:01,060 Thank you. 33 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,100 Council of Prince Bay and yes. 34 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Yes. 35 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,500 Thank you. 36 00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:08,910 Yes. 37 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:09,810 Thank you. 38 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:11,370 We have all the votes this way. 39 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:11,790 The vote. 40 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:14,540 That's carried. 41 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:15,440 Thank you. 42 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:18,140 Protocol items. 43 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,760 None that I'm aware of. 44 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:24,600 which means we can move on to selection of items for debate. 45 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:39,860 Just for expediency, I will select all of the items on our agenda today. 46 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:51,940 Okay, excellent. So that means there are no reports that have not been selected. 47 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,960 Request to speak. 48 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,840 I do see we have one. 49 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:04,200 Just to the clerk, I'm understanding that we're hearing from the chair of each of the committees. 50 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,440 Is this in addition to? 51 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,340 that would be in addition. Yes. Okay. 52 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:14,580 I'll move that to the council here from the following speaker. 53 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,200 On item 5.1 David Ridley from the Edmonton Heritage Council. 54 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Look second. 55 00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:30,880 Just to the clerk. 56 00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:37,560 I see Councillor Tang on the board. 57 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:43,820 Madam Clerk, can you clarify what we typically do as the council when I come to speakers? 58 00:21:44,740 --> 00:21:48,780 It is not usually your practice to hear from speakers, but of course it is your decision. 59 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:54,200 Right, and I like my personal preference. I appreciate that you're you made it all the way here in person 60 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,600 You're more than welcome to share what you have to say 61 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:02,420 In writing and just so that we can come keep consistent with the practice 62 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:09,580 Which typically deals speakers because given that this is not a committee. Sorry. I'm speaking to you. That's that's me 63 00:22:09,580 --> 00:22:13,520 I go with draw the motion that'd be great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor Stevenson and yeah 64 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,240 recognizing that this is a city council meeting as opposed to a committee setting, it is 65 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,360 practiced not here from speakers, but would welcome any additional correspondence or thoughts 66 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:28,640 to be sent over our way or to our inboxes to help inform the conversation, so thank you for that. 67 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:39,660 In request for specific time on the agenda, we have none voting on by-laws not selected for debate, none which means we can move on to our public reports. 68 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,880 And first up on the agenda is 5.1, the Edmonton Historical Board. 69 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:51,720 And I believe we have Steve Rees, joining us online. 70 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,260 Before we start, would you mind if I just give a brief overview? 71 00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:57,020 Oh, for sure. How the day will go? 72 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:10,760 Absolutely. Go ahead. Thank you. So the purpose of today's meeting is to hear from the council committees, and each chair co chair will present their 2024 annual report information about administrative support and expenses provided to the committee and their 2025 work plan. 73 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:19,240 We have today available for questions, the civic agencies team from the office of the city clerk, as well as representatives from the branches that provided administrative support to each committee. 74 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Those committees that require council approval for subcommittees have included that in the recommendation in the report and provided details on the number of subcommittees requested in the work they will do. 75 00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:37,060 And if there are no process questions on how the day will proceed then yes, let's move on to the Edmonton historical board. 76 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,020 Excellent not seeing any process questions around the table. 77 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,460 We can move on to the Edmonton historical board. 78 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,300 Hi, Steve. How are you? 79 00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:45,940 I'm good. How are you? 80 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Good. Good. Thank you so much for joining us today. 81 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,220 So, we will turn it over to you, and then we'll see if anyone has any questions. 82 00:23:54,380 --> 00:23:55,120 Thank you. 83 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:56,040 Thank you. 84 00:23:56,540 --> 00:23:59,200 Good afternoon, Honourable City Counselors. 85 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,340 My name is Steve Reese, and I'm the chair of the Edmonton Historical Board. 86 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:08,380 On behalf of the Board, I'm pleased to present our 2024 Annual Report. 87 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:13,400 Our EHB Coordinator, Mitchell Norenberg, has provided you with the written report, 88 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:26,460 and included in the report you'll find a summary of this past year's activities of the board and our work to deliver our mandate on our mandate to promote and advocate for the preservation of Edmonton's heritage. 89 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:36,800 My presentation will just provide you with a summary of the report and our work plan going forward. There'll be some time for questions following my presentation. 90 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,540 I am very proud of being the Chair of the Edmonton Historical Board and fortunate to have 91 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:44,420 ten other passionate board members. 92 00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:48,740 The H.B. has a strong connection to the history of the city. 93 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,580 The board's timeline stretches back to 1947 with the creation of the Archives and Landmarks 94 00:24:55,580 --> 00:25:00,060 Committee, then renamed the Edmonton Historical Board in 1966. 95 00:25:00,060 --> 00:25:05,500 In our 75 year history, we've been at the forefront of preserving the history and memories 96 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:06,280 of our city. 97 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:13,580 From the first registered historic resources in 1984 to the present, the city is now identified 98 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:19,900 over a thousand historic properties, landmarks and features across the city, and has protected 99 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:23,540 over a hundred and sixty municipal historic resources. 100 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,320 I'm thankful to the work with our, to work with our talented staff at the city, of 101 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,460 members and archives and the heritage planning team or conservation team. 102 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,120 This past year we focused a lot on working with the Edmonton Heritage Council and the city 103 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,400 of Edmonton in looking at ways we can work together more effectively. 104 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,200 We look forward to working closer with the Edmonton Heritage Council and collaborating on specific 105 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,820 initiatives next year. 106 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:58,540 In this past year, our subcommittees have worked diligently to meet our mandate. 107 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,940 We continue to build our relationship with council, administration, and heritage partners, 108 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,680 including the Edmonds and Heritage Council, as I mentioned previously, and the Edmonds 109 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,500 and District Historical Society. 110 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:17,680 I'm particularly excited about our planning and policy committees work on a number of new ideas 111 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,000 and our historical plaques committees work on our website rebuilt. 112 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:32,920 In July 2024, we held the historical plaques presentation in Unison with the Edmonton and District Historical Society's historic festival and doors open about. 113 00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:43,900 The celebration was held at the newly designated St. Luke's Angle Concerts and highlighted the presentation of eight new plaques to newly designated buildings. 114 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,340 Now, I'd like to provide you with a brief update of our goals and brief update of progress. 115 00:26:50,780 --> 00:26:55,720 Goal number one, which is advising the council on historic resources that should be added 116 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,040 to inventory as well as building greater awareness of the city of Edmonton historical issues 117 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:07,300 and civic heritage policies while communicating about emergent issues and priorities with the council. 118 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:13,320 Included in this year's work on goal number one is our historical resources, review panel, 119 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:20,000 the HRRP evaluated and then added six historic buildings and one landscape to the inventory. 120 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:29,620 The board also advised Council on five other heritage preservation issues through letters to the council members and discussions with our council advisor. 121 00:27:29,620 --> 00:27:35,600 Goal number two is supporting the preservation and promotion of built heritage in Edmonton. 122 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,280 The progress on goal number two included the hosting of the historical plaques presentation 123 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,920 for the eight designated properties, as I've mentioned before. 124 00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:51,180 During the ceremony, David Johnson of the Heritage Conservation Unit also conducted an 125 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:56,900 information session on the preservation of historic buildings and the designation process, 126 00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:04,580 which I think was very important and really well accepted by the good crowd at St. Luke's. 127 00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:09,640 Goal number three is supporting Edmonton's history. Work completed on this goal included 128 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,140 adding content to the Board's website, detailing structures, neighborhoods, and architectural 129 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:20,880 styles found in Edmonton historic resources. Our policy and planning committee has been working on 130 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,180 two new projects, one to map the Edmonton's hidden histories, and another to build the network 131 00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:32,360 comparative to organizations to meet and share experiences. Work on these projects will continue 132 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:39,100 this coming year. Goal number four is to support our historian Lorieette. We provide ongoing 133 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:44,960 support for Donna, who is I think in the crowd, and she's going to do a short presentation after 134 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,860 this. We provide her with she provides us with regular updates of her extremely busy work, 135 00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:55,040 And you can see her, she's sent in a report too. 136 00:28:55,700 --> 00:29:01,000 And now I'll give you a brief overview of the 2025 work plan of the Edmonton Historical Board. 137 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840 While the main goals of the board remain the same, 138 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,040 here are some of the specific projects and work that we plan on conducting in the coming year. 139 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Continue to work on the collaboration with the Edmonton Heritage Council and other local historical groups. 140 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:19,380 With the city of Edmonton's assistance, we have looked at the folks of both groups 141 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:23,420 and will examine different ways to work together more closely in the future. 142 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Relationships are building, and I see this will conclude with both groups being stronger and more efficient. 143 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:34,460 We will continue to add to the Edmonton Historical Properties inventory. 144 00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:38,740 I see this is one of the most important tasks that EHB does. 145 00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:46,860 In the past few years, the total number of properties on the inventory has decreased due to the amount of demolition of building on the inventory, 146 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,960 compared to the newly added buildings. 147 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,900 We must find new processes to add to this inventory. 148 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,940 We also plan for this historical plaque presentation again on July 9th. 149 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,740 2020, 25, so mark your calendars and we're going to complete phase 1 of our historical mapping project. 150 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,200 And we will continue the update and revisions to our website. 151 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:20,100 In conclusion, I'd like to thank all of city council, and especially our council advisor for the past few years and Stevenson, 152 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:28,500 and also Sarah Hamilton, our new advisor for their work and dedication. Really appreciate their time. I understand how busy you guys are. 153 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:33,900 I'd like to see the City of Edmonton continue their support in preserving bill 154 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:39,060 heritage and especially in the designation of city owned buildings such as the 155 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:44,260 Peter Hemingway Leisure Center that is just gone over in the midst of some 156 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:49,540 heavy renovations and rehabilitation right now. Thanks for listening and I'm 157 00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,600 open for questions now. 158 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Thank you so much. Thank you Steve. And you just might need to mute. There we go. 159 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,780 So any questions from committee members or council members? 160 00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:05,770 Councillor Stevenson. 161 00:31:06,530 --> 00:31:13,930 It's thank you very much and thanks for the presentation and the ongoing work that you and the board are undertaking. 162 00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:22,950 Just to quickly to clerks are we can we ask of the whole delegation so both staff and I guess everyone's. 163 00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:27,810 Okay. Perfect. Well, Steve, maybe just starting with you. 164 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,180 What I, you have mentioned, and 165 00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:38,440 you know, really pleased to hear about the additional collaboration that you've been doing 166 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,940 with Heritage Council. I see that there's sort of listed as a partner in stakeholder and 167 00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:49,840 goal. One, just wondering what, what has come of conversations to to work more closely as 168 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,720 organization to the point of potentially sort of amalgamating into that organization or the 169 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,800 two organizations kind of coming together in a more formal way. 170 00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:11,380 I think the latest was that we will meet together as a group and I believe that, I mean, 171 00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:19,320 I don't want to take anything away from David's presentation, but I believe that he's suggesting 172 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:25,240 that we have, or he has a member on Edmonton Heritage Council, that would be a non-bullying 173 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:33,560 member from EHB. We certainly could do the same for the Edmonton Heritage Board. 174 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Oh, interesting. Can you mute, sorry, there's some funny feedback. 175 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,680 That's interesting, so the 176 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:52,580 idea with that be sort of a precursor to, again, so I guess my question is, is this idea continuing to be pursued in a sort of formal way? 177 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:09,760 Yeah, we, like I said, we had somebody from the city working with us in the little in the last few months, and so we're still working on it, but yeah, we're definitely looking at different ways to work closely together. 178 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Okay, well then maybe maybe just shifting to members of administration who maybe on the line I just want to understand the implications of having the 179 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:31,500 The working groups with the subcommittees and so do the committees have to meet in public is that part of the like the subcommittees sorry 180 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:39,580 Yes, yes, they do and and has administration done in analysis in terms of the the resource implications 181 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:43,800 and you know, just thoughts on adding those 182 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,760 committees from a capacity perspective. 183 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Roger, do you want to comment on that one? 184 00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:53,420 Roger, we can see if Catherine Ivoney, our city 185 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:55,520 archivist, could probably provide more insight on 186 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,020 the impacts of those committees. 187 00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:59,220 Yeah, the, um, the, um, the 188 00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:01,500 subcommittees are staffed by either Mitchell Laurenberg, 189 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,840 who is the coordinator for the, for the 190 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,480 eminent stroke aboard or myself. 191 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Um, it's certainly something that we 192 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,340 can handle and I have 193 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:14,140 continue to support the committees that meet prior to the board meeting monthly. 194 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,860 Okay, thank you for that. 195 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,840 And then Steve mentioned some staff who've been working with them and Heritage Council 196 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,820 about that closer working relationship is who who was that and are you on the line? 197 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,840 I don't think they are, but they are part of our community services partnership group and 198 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,860 they are they work with the Heritage Council as well as the historical board on other matters 199 00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:44,700 as well, so this is just an added component of the work with those two agencies. 200 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:54,340 Okay, and so just from your perspective, is there some of that active work being done 201 00:34:54,340 --> 00:34:59,480 in terms of, like is there going to be a report done looked at the opportunity for these two 202 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,000 groups to eventually become one? 203 00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:08,840 Yeah, I believe there's an interim report in place and they are going to continue to work 204 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:17,560 work with groups and this circle resources group as well around this circle resources plan 205 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,120 that's coming out in the future. 206 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,540 And then maybe Steve, I just heard you mention the Peter Hemingway pool. 207 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,560 I think that's a really exciting project and obviously a really important city asset. 208 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,060 It's also a heritage asset. 209 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:42,040 Is that, am I understanding correctly that that building will get a heritage designation as the renovations are completing? 210 00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:53,340 No, right now that is not in the plan. We would like that of course, but as far as I know that is not in the plan. 211 00:35:53,860 --> 00:36:00,060 Okay, well, I'm just starting at a time, but I'll maybe come back to our admin team about that. Thank you. 212 00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:02,380 Thank you, Councillor Hamilton. 213 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:04,060 Thank you. 214 00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:06,380 I just want to thank you for your presentation. 215 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:15,680 And it's always a pleasure to, you know, interact with the historical board. 216 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:24,720 One of the things I feel, and I was noting your correspondence, the meeting to council this year, 217 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:36,040 You, the historical board, I think historically, has felt the need to take a position on certain 218 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,880 demolitions. 219 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:44,660 And I'm wondering, are you still feeling that pressure, are you, are you choosing to take 220 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:50,920 those positions sort of strategically if you could, if you could speak to that a little bit 221 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,200 more? 222 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:58,960 I'm not sorry, I don't quite understand you. 223 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:09,640 I noted that in the correspondence you submitted to Council, for instance, you've taken a position on the role of a museum. 224 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:23,260 Which we don't own, but is I think a lot of people feel it's a building where the historical designation and would be a travesty to lose. 225 00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:29,980 and you've also taken positions on things that are with you. 226 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,480 Then the municipal preview, I'm wondering how you're deciding to take your positions. 227 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:45,960 I think those decisions are made at our main board meeting. You know, might come up through 228 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:53,180 one of the committees, but then discuss it or board meeting and then there's basically a vote on whether 229 00:37:53,180 --> 00:38:03,180 not we should write a letter to the counselors yourself and show that, you know, we are 230 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:09,460 recommending support from the council on it. So, yeah, and I feel very strongly about 231 00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:15,220 the Royal Board of Museum or the former Royal Board of Museum. And especially the fact that 232 00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:20,840 there have been some promises for discussions and it seems like the promises didn't happen 233 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:26,340 But I think that referred to the latter, too, 234 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,620 is just some discussions with the problems. 235 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,840 But we know that we don't have authority, 236 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,000 but we wanted to certainly voice our opinion about it. 237 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,980 Maybe I'll switch positions a little bit, 238 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,500 or switch, switch my line of questioning a little bit now. 239 00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:48,660 You think you brought up that the city needs 240 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:56,360 do a better job in terms of designing our own buildings and I'm glad you mentioned the Peter 241 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:03,280 Hemingway Pool. I think that leads into a longer, larger discussion about the next 242 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:12,390 launch of buildings that aside from Wallinsit but that sort of mid-century architecture and 243 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:18,670 wondering if you could tell us a little bit about what you see or what the historical board 244 00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:26,330 sees as a risk to the city in terms of losing our next launch of assets, historical assets. 245 00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:38,420 I just think the risk is showing the council and the city of Edmonton really do believe in 246 00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:47,780 preserving art historic buildings and art history. So is there a class or is there a 247 00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:52,640 a place you'd like a class of building or a place you'd like us to look or pay a particular 248 00:39:52,640 --> 00:40:01,880 attention to in terms of where we might lose those assets? I don't think there's a class of building 249 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:08,720 right now. I mean there's a lot of assets in Hamilton that are definitely at risk. Now 250 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:15,560 are they owned by the city of Hamilton? Not necessarily. I'm probably worried about other ones 251 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:22,520 that are not owned by the city and but there are some by the city. I think that just showing that 252 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:31,160 or designating city on properties shows that that intent and that the counselors are really 253 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:37,540 concern about preservation of buildings or build heritage in the city of Hamilton. 254 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360 Great, thank you, my questions there, thank you. 255 00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:42,020 Thank you, Councillor Tang. 256 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Yeah, great, thank you. 257 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,640 Thank you very much for all the work that the committee has undertaken. 258 00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:53,160 You've had a busy year, see all the motions past, et cetera. 259 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,980 I think my question is more around the subcommittees that you are requesting. 260 00:41:00,020 --> 00:41:05,780 So your current status is you don't have any of those in the as a group, the entire board. 261 00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:12,460 Make some of those decisions and you feel a subcommittee approach might be more efficient. 262 00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:21,000 No, those communities have been around for as long as I've been part of the Hamilton historical board, 263 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,840 but since the changes in the policies that we are asked to ask for, 264 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:33,460 them so we have asked for them. So they're all very important and we are, I mean, our board meetings 265 00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:41,860 last from anywhere from two to three hours. I mean, the longest has been three hours. Usually 266 00:41:41,860 --> 00:41:48,020 it's a little over two hours. If we didn't have the subcommittees, I don't want to guess how long 267 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:56,160 the board meetings would be, so, and I mean, they go from five to seven, more five to eight. 268 00:41:56,540 --> 00:42:07,020 Right. And then, but the subcommies, the historical plaques committee does me, you know, regularly, almost monthly, 269 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,480 and planning or deciding on the plaques, and then, of course, doing the planning for the presentations, 270 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,040 and then also the web page work that we've been doing, so that's been added. 271 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:23,200 So that's been very important, it's a very busy meeting. 272 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:33,640 The historical resources review panel, that is the panel that actually decides on which 273 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:41,320 buildings go on the inventory and then gives recommendations to the board, which I think 274 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,040 is extremely important and I don't think it could be done within the meeting. 275 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:54,240 That can happen each month but depending on how many buildings or if we have buildings to review. 276 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,560 And then... 277 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,660 I appreciate it. 278 00:42:57,780 --> 00:42:57,940 It's okay. 279 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,480 I think my question is more just around. 280 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,620 Like essentially the request is to come and take that structure moving forward. 281 00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:17,400 Okay, maybe I just do a administration and wondering if you can just apologies because I feel like it's been a while since we talked about the subcommittee policy. 282 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:21,080 Can you just remind me what that was? 283 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:30,520 Yes, so I can for sure, so essentially what it was is the council has to approve the use of subcommittees and it's done annually. 284 00:43:30,940 --> 00:43:35,120 So these requests aren't necessarily new requests that could be continuing requests, but it's done in an analysis. 285 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:54,120 Okay, and whereas in this case, this is an annual request, but it's just simply that each of the advisory body can just like strike one up on their own, because it does relate to resourcing, but if this is a structure that's being in place for a while, the resourcing stays the same. 286 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,120 and it sounds like from earlier Q&A, the staff can manage it. 287 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,280 Okay, that's good. 288 00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:03,500 I think that answers my question. 289 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,840 I think similarly, I feel like this conversation 290 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,080 throughout between the Historical Society and the Heritage Council 291 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,580 has been in words for some times. 292 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:18,200 I'm sorry, we're not hearing your presentation today, 293 00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:21,780 but I look forward to seeing that in the inbox 294 00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:26,620 and I also would like to echo Councillor Stevenson just to see that conversation a bit more 295 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:33,320 formalized. I see references to it in your report, but I think the formalized conversation 296 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,380 will be helpful. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Tang. Not seeing any further questions 297 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:42,880 on the board. I might go to Councillor Hamilton if you're interested in putting the recommendation on 298 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,440 the floor. Yes, I'll move the recommendation that this be received for information. 299 00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:51,710 Maybe we could just... 300 00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:52,690 Is there another recommendation? 301 00:44:53,590 --> 00:44:54,830 What's the wording up on the board? 302 00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:56,950 There you go. 303 00:44:57,250 --> 00:44:57,330 Yep. 304 00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:59,470 The advantage of the struggles, right? 305 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,760 What was in the report? Anyway, that the Ementon Historical Board's request to establish for a subcommence for the 2025 work plan has outlined the attachment three of the March 10, 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report. Be approved. 306 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:18,260 Seconder? Second. 307 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:21,960 We'll buy Councilor Hamilton, seconded by Councilor Stevenson. 308 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,780 Councilor Hamilton, would you like to introduce it all? 309 00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:30,800 I mean, I think this reflects the discussion here today. 310 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,140 And the establishment allowing the continuation of force of communities will allow 311 00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:43,840 the official report to make the best use of their time when they meet in every month. 312 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:50,360 great. And I'm realizing just in terms of process going forward, we'll ensure that we're putting 313 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,900 this on the floor at the outset because we're reminded that we're at Council. And then any one 314 00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:01,540 to speak to this, any questions, Councillor Stevenson to speak, I assume. Yeah, thank you so much. 315 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,700 I just wanted to take a few moments to thank Steve and all members of the historical board for 316 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:13,280 the work that they do. Preservation of our build form and community character is critically important 317 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,700 and I appreciate the advice that they're able to offer, not only to council, but also to 318 00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:24,500 elevate the community members who are also actively involved in preserving homes and other 319 00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:30,720 historic buildings. The plaque presentation is always a really exciting evening where people 320 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:39,140 get to celebrate their participation in our historic city. I think the ongoing conversations 321 00:46:39,140 --> 00:46:44,100 about the relationship between the historical board and heritage council are really important and I hope 322 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:49,800 to continue to see those advancing. For me, it comes down to thinking through which structure 323 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:56,340 best supports the work of the historical board. You know, I see huge opportunity with heritage 324 00:46:56,340 --> 00:47:02,320 council in terms of the resources, the staff resources they have to help strengthen the work 325 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,940 of the historical board, which is largely driven by incredibly dedicated and hardworking 326 00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:15,760 volunteers, and also an opportunity to avoid some of the complications like having to get 327 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,040 Council approval for subcommittees, you know, looking for ways that there can be more 328 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,480 flexibility to support the great work that's happening. 329 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,900 So look forward to those ongoing conversations and further discussions on that. 330 00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:27,420 Thank you. 331 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,000 Thank you. 332 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:28,700 Councillor Piquette. 333 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:31,060 Yeah, thank you. 334 00:47:31,060 --> 00:47:35,680 I just want to thank the board for all their hard work and I'm just a part of this motion 335 00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:43,460 understanding that, you know, as ever, we're going to be cautious of a scope creep, but having 336 00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:48,220 said that I actually do appreciate the way in on the old museum. 337 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,500 I think that's integral, and something that Edmontonians are very, very clear about they 338 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:55,640 would love to see that preserved. 339 00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:04,020 And last, there's really great neon sign up in my ward at the old Burger Baron that's being 340 00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:07,640 point down, man, if we could preserve that and put it in the museum, that'd be great. 341 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,620 That's all I have to say. Thank you. 342 00:48:10,540 --> 00:48:12,900 Thanks, Councillor Forquette. Councillor Hamilton to close. 343 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:18,580 I have nothing further to say. Just thanks again to the historical port for the presentation. 344 00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:22,620 And I'm sorry that we couldn't hear from the Heritage Council today. I had a great meeting 345 00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:27,420 with David last week and hopefully members of Council will be offered the opportunity to meet with them. 346 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,920 We can too. Thank you. 347 00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:30,340 Excellent. Please vote. 348 00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:38,760 We have all the votes. 349 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,560 Is this way the vote? 350 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,660 That's carried. Great. Well thank you so much to you. Really appreciate you being with us today and and thanks again to the entire 351 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,860 I've been into historical board for your dedication and commitment to our city. 352 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:03,720 Thank you. Wonderful. So we'll move on to our next item which is the naming committee and I believe we have Matt dance with us. 353 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,460 Hi Matt. 354 00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:13,400 All right, so we'll start it over to you for a brief presentation and then we'll like we have some questions for you. 355 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,220 Please go ahead. 356 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,280 Awesome. 357 00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:19,540 Thank you, Councillor Saludor. 358 00:49:21,790 --> 00:49:24,010 I'm glad there's a lot of social distancing here. 359 00:49:24,910 --> 00:49:25,590 Good afternoon. 360 00:49:25,810 --> 00:49:26,950 My name is Matthew Dance. 361 00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:29,170 I'm the chair of the naming committee. 362 00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:37,010 It is an honor to be here and to present the naming committees 2024 Annual Report and 2025 Work Plan. 363 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:46,350 Before I get into the content of this report, I would like to first acknowledge the committee members and admins support that make the work of a committee possible. 364 00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:57,190 First and foremost, my amazing colleagues on the naming committee who are as interested in creating good policy and process and in building strong relationships as they are in place naming. 365 00:49:57,190 --> 00:50:02,510 It is a privilege to work with such smart and pathetic and motivated people, and certainly 366 00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:07,290 the support provided by Corey Souza and Ashley Rowan is under surpassed. 367 00:50:07,310 --> 00:50:12,950 Corey's understanding of the process and our responsibilities as we name Edmonton's civic 368 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:19,070 assets guides each and every discussion and his memory of Edmonton's aiming history is remarkable. 369 00:50:20,210 --> 00:50:24,050 It is within this context that I am pleased to report on the accomplishments of the naming 370 00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:25,310 committee this past year. 371 00:50:25,310 --> 00:50:32,510 In my mind, the greatest achievement that we have as a committee has reflected in the relationships 372 00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:34,250 that we foster and support. 373 00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:39,790 Over the past year, we have collaborated with municipal officials, community organizations, 374 00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:45,490 indigenous leaders, and students in MQ and universities, arts, and cultural management 375 00:50:45,490 --> 00:50:50,670 program to ensure that Edmonton's public spaces tell the stories of those who have shaped 376 00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:52,910 and continue to shape our city. 377 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:57,410 This is most evident in the renaming of the novel All-over Neighborhood. 378 00:50:57,690 --> 00:51:01,730 We are proud of the community-led renaming process that resulted in 379 00:51:01,730 --> 00:51:05,770 we claim to end a creename that reflects that means circle of friends. 380 00:51:06,550 --> 00:51:11,130 The process that led to this name is a model that we are closely looking at as we develop 381 00:51:11,130 --> 00:51:12,790 our own renaming process. 382 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:18,370 In addition to Requanto End, the Menemic Committee approved 35 place names 383 00:51:18,370 --> 00:51:23,330 Reflective of the diversity and cultures, floor and fauna that comprise Edmonton's Irvine, 384 00:51:23,330 --> 00:51:23,970 Mosaic. 385 00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:29,510 Looking to the future, as a committee, we are committed to tackling some big projects in the coming year. 386 00:51:30,370 --> 00:51:36,710 We will continue to support administration as they complete a place-named data set to be published on the open data portal. 387 00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:45,650 As a side note, I started that data set over a decade ago as a grad student and it is extremely gratifying to see this massive piece of work being completed. 388 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:50,550 We as a committee will begin work on the development of a culturally sensitive community 389 00:51:50,550 --> 00:51:56,450 involved renaming process based on the experience of the Equentuin Leadership Circle. 390 00:51:57,330 --> 00:52:02,790 When the government sent your LRT station, LRT station, renaming process launches, the 391 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:05,570 naming committee will have representation at the table. 392 00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:11,210 We will continue to work on building the appropriate relationships so that we can discuss 393 00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:14,130 and develop an indigenous naming process or framework. 394 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:19,510 And finally, the naming committee is working to incorporate recommendations made by 395 00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:24,950 McEwen University's A-Gad 301 policy project as we start thinking through revisions 396 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:29,050 to the naming policy which is scheduled to be renewed in 2026. 397 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:45,020 The naming committee remains committed to the principles reflected in the naming policy. Specifically, the principles of engagement and inclusion underpinned by robust process, ensuring that every decision is made through deliberation and community. 398 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,480 As such, we are aligning our work with your vision for a city. 399 00:52:51,350 --> 00:52:59,790 Great. Thank you so much for the overview. I'll now go to questions from colleagues and just a reminder if there's anyone who would like to put the recommendation on the floor. 400 00:52:59,790 --> 00:53:02,110 We are at Council and that would be appreciated. 401 00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:21,710 Yeah, I'm happy to move, so I'm just pulling up the report for the actual wording as it just received from hermation. 402 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:22,430 Yeah, okay. 403 00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:28,310 The March 10th Office of the City Clerk Report be received from information. 404 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:30,450 Second. 405 00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:32,470 It's great, thank you. 406 00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:36,090 And I'm just trying to get myself on the Board for questions. 407 00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:37,910 Councillor, now could you be able to take the chair? 408 00:53:39,470 --> 00:53:44,970 Thank you for the presentation and really appreciate you being here with us today and for all the work that you're doing. 409 00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:51,990 I actually just had a bit of a process question and hoping you can provide some clarity. 410 00:53:53,470 --> 00:54:02,930 I have had some questions bubbling up from community members just around the process for having conversations about renaming of different forms of infrastructure in our city. 411 00:54:02,930 --> 00:54:09,830 And, yeah, wondering if you can just help me understand what that looks like and the best place for people to get more information. 412 00:54:12,590 --> 00:54:14,970 Great, thank you for the question, Councillor Savador. 413 00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:32,350 The process for renaming, I think at this point follows a pretty standard naming process where we're looking for someone to lead a community engagement session or multiple sessions as they did with 414 00:54:32,350 --> 00:54:45,110 We're going to win and to develop an engagement process that would include promoting names that the 415 00:54:45,110 --> 00:54:52,390 renaming could be switched to or renamed and then a process of name selection and then reporting through the naming 416 00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:59,050 committee and depending on the size of the asset and the nature of the asset it may come to city council. 417 00:54:59,730 --> 00:55:04,810 Okay, that's really helpful so I guess having having some form of a community entity or 418 00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:10,390 body that would initiate that work has to happen on the ground before it would make it 419 00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:12,090 any further conversation is that correct? 420 00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:18,010 Yeah, so for instance, the Oliver community league spearheaded the their renaming process 421 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:27,630 and we're very inclusive in terms of who they had on their advisory board, it was an indigenous 422 00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:33,630 led circle that was looking to get all the voices that would be reflected in the community and 423 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:42,010 impacted by the name change. And then through that process build some support for an option or 424 00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:47,950 a suite of options that they would be able to then choose through a vote or through consensus building 425 00:55:47,950 --> 00:55:53,190 as to what the new name would be. Great. Well thank you so much for helping me just better 426 00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:56,110 I'll return the chair. 427 00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:56,730 Thank you. 428 00:55:56,790 --> 00:55:58,350 And I'll go to Councillor Stevenson. 429 00:55:59,410 --> 00:55:59,950 Thank you very much. 430 00:56:00,350 --> 00:56:04,190 I appreciate the great work that the naming committee has done. 431 00:56:05,310 --> 00:56:08,750 The overview provided in terms of initiating those conversations. 432 00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:12,350 Just trying to think of, you know, 433 00:56:12,370 --> 00:56:15,750 I think that community based approach is a really important principle. 434 00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:25,970 I'm thinking about some larger city assets where there's maybe not a sort of a natural local community. 435 00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:32,230 Just wondering what something like that would look like in instance like that for a process. 436 00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:39,130 Could it still be just a broad community movement or is there a need for a sort of local tie? 437 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:48,980 I think that's a really pertinent question, Councillor Stevenson. I think I can think of several 438 00:56:48,980 --> 00:56:59,440 large city assets that are potentially at risk for a renaming process. If risk is the right word. 439 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:11,000 I don't think that we have a clear picture of what that process looks like. What would it look like to have a 440 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:16,480 the citizens and I clearly don't have an answer, I don't have a clear answer for that right 441 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,040 now, but it is something that is on the radar and the work plan of the naming committee, 442 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,800 and it's something that we're going to be tackling this year and probably into next year 443 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,320 as we try to figure out what that looks like. Great. Great. I think it's excellent to 444 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:38,120 have some guide posts to help us along and appreciate that you're taking that on. Thanks. 445 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:48,780 Thank you so much for the presentation and be here to answer our questions. 446 00:57:49,420 --> 00:57:50,800 So I have two questions. 447 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,640 The first question is more related to the process. 448 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,020 So, as the name of the community may know, 449 00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:07,000 and then my office reached out and then from 2002 to 2003 and before. 450 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:16,120 And as a reason for that, is our word name and then is a longest name, 21-nader's name. 451 00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:22,020 The meaning constitutes reach out to my office and to see the cannot even spell, 452 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,640 how to spell, remember how to spell and also the cannot pronounce any exact possible. 453 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:37,820 to keep the name and at the same time to add a word like a longer and for them to really 454 00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:45,060 to clearly identify which words they are in. So I don't know what's that process is that 455 00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:52,360 at the blaming committee level is at the council level. So can you provide some 456 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,780 take them, you'll start on that. 457 00:58:57,930 --> 00:59:02,310 I counsel the race, thank you for the question, that's a very good question. 458 00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:12,630 The city has done a remarkable job at posting pronunciation guides and phonetic guides on 459 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:13,430 their website. 460 00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:22,370 I think anything that would go over and above that in terms of supporting the name pronunciation 461 00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:28,830 is something that perhaps City Council would take on or it's something that we could probably 462 00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:32,470 work into our work plan. I'm not clear on what that would look like. 463 00:59:33,590 --> 00:59:40,670 Okay, so I think it's not about the assistance and how to pronounce and have been provided. 464 00:59:40,930 --> 00:59:46,330 The city did a great job to provide all those how we pronounce the word name there. 465 00:59:46,330 --> 00:59:51,250 And it is just what I heard from many constituents try to say, 466 00:59:51,390 --> 00:59:54,270 go ahead and add the number after the name. 467 00:59:55,070 --> 00:59:59,810 And so, there's their point is not to change, and then it's just add. 468 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,640 Number, afternoon, to make sure everybody know where we're from. I wouldn't, they have a difficult 469 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:13,420 problem. So I don't want to bring their voice, I heard, and from people I represent in that area, 470 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:20,340 because that's long as the name 21, later it's done. To name a committee and I want to put that 471 01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:26,960 on the table and in front of us. So that's why I'm asking that question, but I'm happy to follow 472 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,460 see how we can work on that way. 473 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:34,720 Yes, thank you, Councillor Rice. 474 01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:36,400 I think following up would be appropriate. 475 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,680 Just from a, I think, a naming process. 476 01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:44,700 The, um, I'm in award, uh, Cippy Winnie Wack. 477 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,860 And I know that the boundaries of award Cippy Winnie Wack 478 01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:51,160 don't overlay precisely with the boundaries of award five. 479 01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:55,460 So I don't know that recalling a previous award name would be appropriate. 480 01:00:55,460 --> 01:01:02,720 given that that word in its form doesn't exist anymore, but I think it's something that we should perhaps explore together 481 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,380 to see what a good solution would be. 482 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,660 That's actually a very good point. 483 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,420 Even for the word I represent, it's not only more than 10. 484 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,920 And as some of the reference from word minus, as well as a boundary change, 485 01:01:16,660 --> 01:01:20,900 I just want to get to see the right curve and the people really from the word 486 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:24,620 the Epico-Calipiol, say, can understand and then 487 01:01:24,620 --> 01:01:27,900 why certain factors needs to be conserved. 488 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,560 But thank you for that answer. 489 01:01:31,340 --> 01:01:35,620 Also, the next question I look at is a 235 work plan 490 01:01:35,620 --> 01:01:37,420 and for the name committee. 491 01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:42,240 I did not see the ending plan regarding the two station, 492 01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:46,840 30 station, before the Capital Nine South Extension 493 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,580 project. 494 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:56,650 And it is that name or writing name for the two stations or they will be in the later work plan for the later year. 495 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:07,920 Is it fair for me to ask our admin support queries use for some direction on that question? 496 01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:12,530 Yeah, is a capital 9-cell extension project? 497 01:02:13,790 --> 01:02:16,730 There are two stations that will be included in this project. 498 01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:21,030 I'm not sure there are two stations, the name is already finished, 499 01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:25,790 and because I did not see in the 25 award plan. 500 01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:28,650 So thanks for the question, Councillor RISE. 501 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:33,570 Those would be treated like a normal naming application. 502 01:02:33,910 --> 01:02:36,450 So they wouldn't be part of the naming committee's work plan. 503 01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:39,310 They would be treated like any other naming 504 01:02:39,310 --> 01:02:48,170 application. They have not been submitted to us yet if I'm understanding the stations I believe 505 01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:53,790 you're referring to. If that's in case those future names have not been submitted to the 506 01:02:53,790 --> 01:03:00,030 naming committee. Okay thank you. That's all my questions. Thank you again. Yeah what was it work? 507 01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:01,830 I think is the answer to the cat? 508 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,040 Yeah, thank you very much. 509 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,020 So does the naming committee worry about how many syllables 510 01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:16,480 are in a name when they name something? 511 01:03:22,510 --> 01:03:23,130 Not typically. 512 01:03:23,390 --> 01:03:26,110 It's not something that typically comes up in conversation. 513 01:03:28,330 --> 01:03:30,670 Because something like Sir Winston Churchill Square. 514 01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:35,450 I can be a lot of syllables, right? 515 01:03:36,290 --> 01:03:38,450 It certainly is. 516 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:45,310 So are you aware when the next board boundary review is? 517 01:03:45,730 --> 01:03:46,870 No, I'm not. 518 01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:47,610 Okay. 519 01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:50,010 As far as I know, it's over two years. 520 01:03:51,330 --> 01:03:57,230 And so I could be over two years, two election cycles. 521 01:04:02,350 --> 01:04:17,250 But at that time, when word boundary shift, sometimes there's a recommendation to change the name of the award, which is what happened last time when I'm going to assume is probably what's going to happen next time is it? 522 01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:18,270 So you're understanding? 523 01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:24,910 As far as I understand that is what the process looks like, Councillor. 524 01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:26,490 Okay. 525 01:04:27,950 --> 01:04:28,330 All right. 526 01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:33,800 Thank you. 527 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,440 That's it? 528 01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:35,520 Thank you. 529 01:04:35,620 --> 01:04:36,280 Councilor Tang? 530 01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:37,400 Yeah. 531 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,140 Thank you for being here. 532 01:04:39,380 --> 01:04:42,080 Very, very interesting input with some of the questions. 533 01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:45,780 I want to follow up on some of the earlier questions around public infrastructure. 534 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:47,240 Renaming. 535 01:04:47,820 --> 01:04:53,480 And, you know, I feel like every few years we get a big push from the public about certain assets. 536 01:04:53,480 --> 01:05:00,480 named at a certain time in history where naming after people is more the common practice. 537 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,200 And now we have a kind of a very different direction. 538 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,000 And that, you know, I think York committee has been doing a lot of great work on. 539 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,560 But I imagine those conversations come up. 540 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,600 You know, and I think, like I say, every few years when those push comes forward, 541 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,780 they often appear in the form of petitions and whatnot. 542 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:26,980 I guess I'm wondering Matt, or even Corey, if you have any advice for those who are spearheading those. 543 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:35,000 Because I think we try to direct folks to look at the current policy and look at some of the process that you've mentioned. 544 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:46,600 But I guess I'm curious about your internal dialogue amongst members, and you like just advice that you might have. 545 01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:57,720 I think first and foremost, 546 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:20,420 the process of renaming and asset in my mind is a process of relationship building and community engagement that we're interested in reflecting the diversity of the effect of community, whether it be a specific neighborhood or the entire city. 547 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:32,860 And really having those potentially very hard conversations to make sure that we are on the path to choosing a correct name. 548 01:06:33,820 --> 01:06:36,420 And in doing so, we're looking at community building. 549 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,200 And we don't make policy by petition. 550 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,420 And I think that's something that we need to keep first and foremost in our mind. 551 01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:57,200 and we are always happy and willing to reach out to the people who are starting a petition 552 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:04,060 or who are interested in renaming assets to help guide them on what that process looks like. 553 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:11,360 So one of my goals as the chair is to increase the profile of the naming committee 554 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:17,940 and to really build an understanding of what it is, what we do, but also how we do it. 555 01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:22,660 Because that is almost more important than the outcome of the name, right? 556 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:29,800 So, for instance, with the ward renaming that occurred when the ward boundaries changed. 557 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:37,380 We were gifted names. And those names are very important, and she'd be held in honor. But how do we support 558 01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:42,820 how do we support those names? How do we support people understanding where those names came from and the 559 01:07:42,820 --> 01:07:48,700 importance of those names? If we're going to be renaming a civic asset, how do we support that type of 560 01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:56,280 conversation? Yeah, thank you. That's very helpful and seeing renaming as a process of community buildings, 561 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,980 it's easy to sign off on the petition but much harder to have some of those really tough 562 01:08:00,980 --> 01:08:06,700 conversations and if people are truly intent on that, they should participate and maybe 563 01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:10,040 leave some of those conversations to, right? 564 01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:15,860 And just further to that, we also don't want to be in a place where we're naming assets out of 565 01:08:15,860 --> 01:08:24,620 anger and we need viable options, you know, saying that we don't want a name isn't the positive 566 01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:26,060 about come that we're looking for. 567 01:08:26,180 --> 01:08:27,520 Yeah, really appreciate that. 568 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,100 Corrid, do you have anything you want to add? 569 01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:35,280 The one thing I would just add regarding renaming 570 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,400 that isn't talked about as much, 571 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,400 and this relates to roads. 572 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,100 It's under section 10 in the naming policy. 573 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:48,900 And it states that if there is a request to renaming a road 574 01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:52,440 that 75% of property owners and business owners 575 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:56,580 directly affected and must support the renaming of that road, 576 01:08:56,580 --> 01:09:02,740 And that applicant's are responsible for the cost of associated with the approved re-name roadway. 577 01:09:03,580 --> 01:09:09,780 So that's important to also share that language when it comes to road names and change your road names. 578 01:09:09,940 --> 01:09:19,980 Because obviously the impact addresses and business names and all the different letter heads and paperwork that's related to that address. 579 01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:28,160 In addition to what Matt said, we're always happy to meet with people, organizations to discuss 580 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:34,660 a potential renaming and we could also guide them on next steps if they are truly passionate 581 01:09:34,660 --> 01:09:40,580 about moving forward with renaming and as Matt mentioned regarding the other question that 582 01:09:40,580 --> 01:09:47,740 counselor and Stevenson asks about these larger assets, that's something that we're discussing 583 01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:58,900 in the next two years as we really look at enhancing our renaming policy, as well as working with our indigenous partners and developing those processes. 584 01:09:59,460 --> 01:10:01,620 Thank you so. Thank you both so much for that. It was very helpful. 585 01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:08,000 Great. Thank you so much. So, not seeing anyone else on the board for question. This is anyone who would like to speak to this. 586 01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:19,370 If not, Councillor Rutherford to close. Or, oh, 587 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,280 Councillor Rutherford go ahead. 588 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:29,340 Yeah. Thank you. I feel like I say this every year about just how important the naming 589 01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:36,540 committee is in terms of place making and identity creating. And I love the shift to 590 01:10:36,540 --> 01:10:41,580 floor and fauna and names that are not related to people because people are flawed. 591 01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:47,140 Everybody has strengths and everybody has weaknesses, right? And so, and we sometimes history 592 01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:52,680 reveals those strengths and those weaknesses more and more. So I really like that that change, 593 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,640 but I also really like the process and the things that we're doing to really think about renaming 594 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,220 and how we create that place-based identity. 595 01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:05,700 I feel like I want to tell a story right now because 596 01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:12,140 I think it's pertinent to some of the questions that were raised. I've been asked by many in my 597 01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:18,760 to the same thing. Why can't we just put the numbers on the word names and I actually explain 598 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,900 the thing. Well actually the boundaries are quite significantly different. So it would 599 01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:26,260 actually cause probably more confusion to put those on. But one of the things that I did recently 600 01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:34,140 my office is we worked with Elder Edna who gifted the name for Word and Elnic, the in New 601 01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:42,940 name and we made buttons and those buttons have word and elnic breath of life and then I actually 602 01:11:42,940 --> 01:11:49,300 has the full name of the city of Edmonton and Cree on those buttons as well and I have been going 603 01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:57,100 and handing them out whenever I'm out at community events and out in community and it has created 604 01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:04,540 such beautiful conversation with residents about the meaning of the name, about how to pronounce 605 01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:15,120 it, about why it was important for my reconciliation perspective to consider this. And it's so 606 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:20,280 much so that they become so popular the request I was getting that I have to reorder more 607 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:27,080 for our office because we've just been getting so much. So I think that it is incumbent on 608 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,720 And this is an example where I was hearing that. 609 01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:32,260 And so I said, how do I address that? 610 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,940 And so one of the things, for me, that I did, 611 01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,960 is I said, let's start to have those conversations. 612 01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:39,480 Let's start to share the message about this. 613 01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:43,140 And I've been privileged and honored to get to know 614 01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:47,380 and meet elder, edna, on many occasions. 615 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:52,880 And to understand the true what you mentioned, 616 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,360 I think, is really important around naming 617 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,240 that they gifted those names, 618 01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:07,120 that there was a lot of ceremony and a lot of work in that circle of elders to really choose 619 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:13,540 names that would represent the land and the history in a significant and meaningful way. 620 01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:20,820 And I worry about reverting to or this conversation of reverting to numbers and the undermining 621 01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:28,120 it does of the true gift that those names were, maybe, you know, the button for so popular 622 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,780 with from our office, maybe this should be something that we should just have as a city 623 01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:34,820 for all the words, right? 624 01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:39,380 Maybe it doesn't have to be incumbent on one council or maybe we should have those word names, 625 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,100 but I know we weren't here today to talk about word names, we were here to talk about 626 01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:49,040 the great work, the naming committee does and you do really great work hearing about just 627 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:57,000 your volume of assets you are naming in your annual report and the work that you're doing 628 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,100 is just outstanding. So please keep it up and continue to do the great place making work you're 629 01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:06,000 already doing. Thank you. Thank you, please vote. 630 01:14:13,180 --> 01:14:15,860 Yes, my your turn off. Thank you, 631 01:14:15,980 --> 01:14:16,800 you got to the riverford. 632 01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:21,390 We have all the votes. Please display the vote. 633 01:14:27,950 --> 01:14:29,230 That's carried. Thank you so 634 01:14:29,230 --> 01:14:33,770 much. And thank you for being with us, Mad. Really appreciate it. And I really appreciate 635 01:14:33,770 --> 01:14:36,330 it again. Your dedication to community building here in Edmonton. 636 01:14:39,190 --> 01:14:41,350 Okay. Next up is the Edmonton 637 01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:50,550 Slutes Committee. And Brian Hodgson is Brian online. He is. I'm here. Hi, Brian. How are you? 638 01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:56,610 I'm Wilson. Good. Okay. So we'll turn the floor over to you for a brief presentation. 639 01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:59,970 We're 640 01:15:02,620 --> 01:15:11,680 Okay. Well, to the acting mayor and council members present, it's a pleasure for me to speak to you again about what the evidence looks committee does. 641 01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:20,480 You have the report, and I could presume that all of you will have gone through it, so I'm not going to go into any great detail. 642 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:29,160 I would remark to you that the budget of the Anderson's Committee is 0.0022 of the overall 643 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:35,380 city budget, which amounts to some $62,000, so it is not a huge sum. 644 01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:44,840 The purpose and the mandate of the committee is to provide advice and advance the notion that 645 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,040 city recognition initiatives for military veterans and their families, it's pretty important 646 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:55,840 and to provide the leadership as champions with the military veterans and their families 647 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:02,960 and give recognition to military members and veterans of their families through a variety 648 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,900 of collaborations with public private and through non-profit organizations. 649 01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:16,860 So, to put the Edmonton Military in context, the Royal Edmonton Regiment, which is a reserve 650 01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:26,340 unit of the Canadian Army, has deployed a mortar platoon to lack the of some 40 or 50 soldiers. 651 01:16:26,660 --> 01:16:32,600 So, these are individuals who have taken time off their work or studies to further volunteer 652 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:39,160 to serve their country, and you will know that Canada has an impressive presence in Latvia. 653 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:45,960 A Canadian is heading up a multinational brigade, and in that brigade there is a battle group 654 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:51,200 which is being led by Lieutenant Colonel Darin Gray, the large South-Coneous Horse, 655 01:16:52,380 --> 01:16:56,800 and that battle group comprises nine different national components. 656 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:04,000 So, you are the events of the last couple of weeks internationally, 657 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:10,720 bear upon the families, military families in this city. 658 01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:20,120 Our folks in Latvia, it is difficult to predict how things would play out, 659 01:17:20,180 --> 01:17:23,460 given the current geopolitical situation. 660 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,260 for any number of reasons, and I won't go into the details on this. 661 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:35,480 But the Ukraine area is, to say it's unsettled, 662 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,280 would be something of an understeak. 663 01:17:40,340 --> 01:17:44,360 So it's within that context that eminencellutes supports 664 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,180 our military and their families. 665 01:17:47,180 --> 01:17:54,660 certainly the families of those who have military members who are serving abroad. 666 01:17:57,860 --> 01:18:03,260 You know, the committee very briefly has eight members appointed by City Council, 667 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,340 nine from very, are eight from various organizations and nine municipal members. 668 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:12,100 And we're up one, we have a member from Warrenville. 669 01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:19,640 So we have, it's very much a regional entity and it's very collegial when it's discussions 670 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,980 way we do the business. 671 01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:30,580 So some significant events that I would mention very briefly, and it's in the report last 672 01:18:30,580 --> 01:18:35,540 year on the first of April, in fact, was a hundredth anniversary of the founding of the Royal 673 01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:36,440 Canadian Air Force. 674 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:43,020 and eminence, so it was very active in promoting recognition of that. 675 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:48,660 We have supported any number of veterans organizations from the veterans' food bank to homes 676 01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:54,600 for veterans, to homes for herals, which is also housing, interim housing for veterans 677 01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:02,800 and through the committee members attended and supported many, many events and propagated 678 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:08,960 the gospel, if I can use that expression amongst those who are at these various events. 679 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:18,680 I would mention the excellent support we get from the city staff, in particular, Kate Macintosh, 680 01:19:18,860 --> 01:19:20,280 who I know is listening in. 681 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:29,380 Julie Oford and Claire Morayette, I'm sorry, all of whom work very diligently on behalf 682 01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:31,520 of the Evans service committee. 683 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:43,820 So, not funny, as I said, I'm not going to go any further details, but I'd be pleased to answer any questions that you may have learning what the Emerald Smoose Committee has done in 2024. 684 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:57,340 Great, thank you so much. Councillor Prinspe, and if you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor as well. 685 01:19:57,340 --> 01:20:06,420 Certainly, I'll do that before we start. I would like to recommend that the March 10, 686 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:15,360 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report, OCC-02866D received for information. 687 01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:16,720 That can. 688 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:18,700 Thank you. 689 01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:21,700 Any have questions as well? 690 01:20:22,540 --> 01:20:33,720 Yes, thank you very much, Chair Hodgson, for the presentation and you did discuss how we do have troops deployed currently in Latvia. 691 01:20:34,180 --> 01:20:38,040 Can you give Council an idea of how many have been deployed? 692 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:43,060 Just a rough idea, how many over 2024? 693 01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:54,800 I'm going to guess about a thousand, but what I will do, Councillor is, get the more precise 694 01:20:54,800 --> 01:21:00,600 figure from the military source and provide it to you and to members of Council. 695 01:21:00,740 --> 01:21:01,020 Right. 696 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:07,780 And I would say that the normal rotation amongst the units who are deployed to Latvia 697 01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:08,840 is every six months. 698 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:15,820 how some tours for specific individuals may be a little bit longer, but it's roughly every six 699 01:21:15,820 --> 01:21:22,580 months and you know, as we know, the headquarters of one Canadian mechanized brigade group 700 01:21:22,580 --> 01:21:27,960 is in the Edmonton, and that comprises amongst other things, two battines of the Princess 701 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:33,440 Patricia's Canadian light of entry. And of course, the Lord Stratkona's horse, one field 702 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:38,420 ambulance, one combat engineer, regiment and other supporting arms. So elements of those, 703 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:45,000 would be deployed throughout, we're deployed throughout 2020, but I will get you the precise 704 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:45,420 figures. 705 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:53,040 Okay, yeah, and I agree that I think it's probably around that number, I just wanted Council 706 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:58,800 to have an idea that there are significant amount of people living in the Edmonton region, 707 01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:06,280 you know, representing our country and it's really a huge impact on the families that are 708 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:13,800 and just how important this committee is to that that's that's the reason I asked that question. 709 01:22:15,820 --> 01:22:20,280 And I think I think that was really the only question I have for you. 710 01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:25,400 I'll have some remarks in closing. I'll let my colleagues ask some other questions. Thank you. 711 01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:26,740 Thank you. Councillor Rutherford. 712 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,340 Yeah, thank you. 713 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:38,880 I just wanted to ask the Edmonton Salute's committee. I know that you play a role in sort of the 714 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:46,140 recognition, but I've been getting a lot of inquiries and flags from veterans in grease 715 01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:50,840 Bobo vandalism to some of the monuments. Have you been hearing anything about this? 716 01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:57,360 Well, I've been reading about them, and certainly I hear from other sources because, you know, 717 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:04,660 reasonably well connected in the veterans community and with other military organizations. Yes, I have. 718 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:13,260 It's very disappointing, difficult and why someone would remove a plaque honoring a veteran 719 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:20,680 or in some other commemoration, important commemoration. Well, we know why they're doing it. 720 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:34,140 So, and in some cases, we, the Ebonus loose committee has offset a partial expense related to the theft of a plaque. 721 01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:41,720 Have, have you offset that with, because I see that you have somebody from Canada lands represented on the Salute's committee. 722 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,800 But not, not anybody from like the Greenspa Community League proper. 723 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:54,740 Not that I'm aware of, but if we are aware and we're approached, you know, the funding 724 01:23:54,740 --> 01:23:58,260 is given, or the funding request is given, every earnest consideration. 725 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:07,160 So our governance model, we have a budget subcommittee that vets and examines every request 726 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:13,200 for funding and it has to meet certain parameters, and this certainly would be given very earnest 727 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,840 and ideal say favorable consideration. 728 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:25,820 Sure, so I'm just wondering if maybe post meeting, I can connect with Council Prince Pay and just even make that connection between Edmonton States and the Grisball community league. 729 01:24:25,940 --> 01:24:27,140 Yeah, absolutely. 730 01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:29,300 That would be awesome. Thank you so much. 731 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:40,220 And I agree, it's extremely disheartening and downright disrespectful, so I appreciate any work that we can do in collaboration on that one. 732 01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:51,450 Yeah, I did have another question because veterans are so important. 733 01:24:51,850 --> 01:24:57,630 I, there is also the veterans support of housing that's opening in the ward. 734 01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:59,750 I represent as well with veterans Canada. 735 01:25:01,210 --> 01:25:07,930 Is there a connection that's been made with Edmonton Salutes and that organization around that, 736 01:25:07,930 --> 01:25:09,290 the opening of that building? 737 01:25:10,190 --> 01:25:13,790 Are you speaking of homes for heroes or homes for veterans? 738 01:25:13,790 --> 01:25:17,430 So, the home surveillance is in the Northwest quarter, is that where you go? 739 01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:18,990 Yeah, it's on Athlone. 740 01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:19,970 Yeah, yeah. 741 01:25:19,970 --> 01:25:21,210 And, like, then, it's done this area. 742 01:25:22,830 --> 01:25:23,130 Yeah. 743 01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:28,930 We invited the head of home surveillance to make a presentation of the Edmonton's 744 01:25:28,930 --> 01:25:29,530 Loose Committee. 745 01:25:30,350 --> 01:25:33,150 And thereafter, he did come out from Ottawa. 746 01:25:33,230 --> 01:25:39,910 And I arranged to have a meet, one or two individuals who are well connected and who have connections 747 01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:42,990 into the philanthropic sector. 748 01:25:42,990 --> 01:25:44,850 if you will in the city, 749 01:25:47,210 --> 01:25:50,510 and one or two other folks who don't live in the city, but who would 750 01:25:50,510 --> 01:25:52,310 be supportive of what they're trying to do. 751 01:25:52,650 --> 01:25:59,630 So basically for for council, as you may know, council was very, or the city of eminent 752 01:25:59,630 --> 01:26:09,310 was very generous to find and providing some property for about 40 long-term small residences 753 01:26:09,310 --> 01:26:28,710 housing for homeless veterans. So this will not duplicate the homes for heros, which there are their main purposes is basically bridging housing. So I think it's a year or less with them, but this is a longer term 754 01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:37,710 solution to homeless veterans. And as I mentioned to the mayor, I think perhaps the last meeting or last time I presented 755 01:26:39,310 --> 01:26:46,630 Veterans are out of proportion as a sector within the homeless. 756 01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:50,230 In other words, they're proportionally more veterans 757 01:26:50,230 --> 01:26:54,210 who are homeless than there are for many other groups, 758 01:26:54,730 --> 01:26:56,070 which some people might find surprising. 759 01:26:56,890 --> 01:27:01,630 And that's common certainly in the UK and in the United States. 760 01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:06,510 So as an advocate for veterans, I'm very appreciative 761 01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:13,410 about the work, the good work that Council does and the civic staff and in supporting these 762 01:27:13,410 --> 01:27:14,090 kinds of initiatives. 763 01:27:15,050 --> 01:27:15,110 Great. 764 01:27:15,330 --> 01:27:20,010 And I just think that the purpose is when we have these new veterans join our community 765 01:27:20,010 --> 01:27:27,010 again, how is Edmonton Salutes, you know, making sure that they're successful in their 766 01:27:27,010 --> 01:27:28,410 transition to the community. 767 01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:30,010 But thank you so much. 768 01:27:31,090 --> 01:27:31,630 They're very welcome. 769 01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:33,370 Thank you. 770 01:27:33,370 --> 01:27:38,190 not seeing any other questions on the board, but anyone to speak to this before Councillor 771 01:27:38,190 --> 01:27:39,810 Prince Bay closes. 772 01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:44,730 Seeing none, Councillor Prince Bay, go ahead. 773 01:27:46,230 --> 01:27:50,090 Thank you, Chair, Salvador. I would just like to take this time to say thank you very much 774 01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:56,370 to our Chair, Brian Hodgson, for leading us and being a good example of how we can support 775 01:27:56,370 --> 01:28:04,550 our military. And I just want to let people know that as we discuss, there are several people 776 01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:11,310 within the Edmonton region, deployed at any time, can be gone six months, or at least sometimes 777 01:28:11,310 --> 01:28:18,970 longer, very impactful, you know, parents, spouses, caregivers being deployed, very impactful 778 01:28:18,970 --> 01:28:34,530 on the families, this committee is crucial in helping support and I just wanted to give 779 01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:44,290 I recently, one of our members on Edmonton SLU, it's recently passed away, Alex Singh. 780 01:28:45,010 --> 01:28:53,030 And I just wanted to give him recognition and appreciation for the work he's done on 781 01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:53,630 our committee. 782 01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:55,770 Thank you. 783 01:28:57,010 --> 01:29:03,950 And if I may just take a moment in my recognitions, I did not 784 01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:11,130 mentioned a counselor, Prince of Bay, who has been on flagging in her support of the work that 785 01:29:11,130 --> 01:29:21,590 evidence loots does, and she attends nearly every military function or event that in connection 786 01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:28,910 with veterans causes in the military, she's everywhere, and she does excellent work, and I know 787 01:29:28,910 --> 01:29:33,810 that she enjoys it, and she's highly respected, so she's an excellent representative of 788 01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:39,810 I wouldn't say City Council in that, within that milieu that I'd just mention. 789 01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:40,950 Great. 790 01:29:41,170 --> 01:29:44,270 Well, thank you for that Brian, and thank you for your thoughtful closing remarks. 791 01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:45,290 Councillor principay. 792 01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:47,010 Please vote. 793 01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:59,590 We have a vote. 794 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,040 Please display the vote. 795 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:15,180 That's carried. Thank you so much, everyone, and Brian, thank you for being with us today for your dedication and service. 796 01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:22,220 And yeah, our gratitude to the entire team at the Abentance Loots Committee for the important work that you're doing. Really appreciate it. 797 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,760 Thank you very much. 798 01:30:24,540 --> 01:30:35,320 Wonderful. Okay, so we're going to move on to our next committee, which is the Abentent Design Committee, and I believe Janice Mills is online. 799 01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:42,120 Yes. Hi, Janice. All right. Well, thank you so much for being with us today. I appreciate 800 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:47,320 you taking a time. And I see that you do have a slide deck that goes along with your presentation. 801 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,300 So we'll get that up and ready. So we'll hand over the floor to you and we'll have some questions 802 01:30:52,300 --> 01:30:58,420 to follow. Please go ahead. Okay. Good afternoon. Acting Mayor, counselors and member of 803 01:30:58,420 --> 01:31:05,380 administration. I am Janice Mills, current chair of the Emmanton Design Committee. For simplicity, 804 01:31:05,940 --> 01:31:14,180 I may refer to the committee's EDC throughout my presentation. Second slide. EDC was established 805 01:31:14,180 --> 01:31:22,300 by City Council in 2005 with a mandate to improve the quality of urban design within the city of 806 01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:35,820 EDC continues to operate under by law 20673 and meets the mandate primarily through the review of private development applications and key city of emitting projects. 807 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,060 Next slide please. 808 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:46,320 This past year we have focused EDC efforts and resources on four main goals. 809 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:57,260 Goal 1, reviewing development applications, this goal embraces the day-to-day efforts of the committee and actively involves all committee members. 810 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:12,880 Goal 2, 3, and 4, updating the standards of procedures, updating the principles of urban design, and initiating the review of the EDC boundary, requires the continual support and effort of the EDC subcommittee. 811 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:21,540 The present workload and composition of the committee does not allow for this work to be undertaken in an efficient manner with the broader committee. 812 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:31,280 Establishing a subcommittee allows these actions to be undertaken in a much more focused and expedient manner. Next slide. 813 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:40,000 The ongoing review of development applications, including rezoning development permits and city projects, 814 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,860 is central to the mandate of EDC, a set out by Council. 815 01:32:44,580 --> 01:32:50,780 This past year, the committee has reviewed 27 development permit applications for rezoning 816 01:32:50,780 --> 01:32:53,600 and seven city projects. 817 01:32:54,380 --> 01:33:00,560 EDC's agenda and submission packages are circulated to its members and posted to the EDC 818 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:09,900 website, two weeks prior to our meetings to allow members sufficient time to review and provide meaningful comments and questions during our meetings. 819 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,000 Formal submissions coincide with development permit and rezoning applications. 820 01:33:15,620 --> 01:33:22,980 These are required of all projects which fall within the geographical boundary, as well as all city of Evident projects. 821 01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:30,220 applicants can also opt in for an informal pre-console, prior to a formal submission. 822 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:37,560 These presentations which are not open to the public allow an applicant to come to EDC for 823 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,580 preliminary advice with respect to a development that is being considered. 824 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:48,240 These presentations are not part of the formal meeting and therefore no written record of 825 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:54,260 portion of the meeting is act. In the opinion of the committee then formal pre-consult process 826 01:33:54,260 --> 01:34:02,700 is extremely valuable. Next slide. EDC in collaboration with city administration, 827 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:09,000 developed standards and procedures to provide clear direction on the day-to-day functions of EDC 828 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:16,100 and clearly define the roles and responsibilities of administration committee members and applicants. 829 01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:28,180 This work was completed under EDC 2020 to 2022 work plans and the standards and procedures were approved by the City Manager in February of 2022. 830 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:38,380 At the end of this project, EDC committed to future engagement with industry stakeholders to ensure the standards and procedures were meeting their intended function. 831 01:34:38,380 --> 01:34:46,480 The 2024-25 goal to updating the standards and procedures fulfilled this commitment to industry. 832 01:34:47,180 --> 01:34:54,200 The key revisions and takeaways are introducing a mission statement, exploring a new approach to informal submissions, 833 01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,420 and providing new guidance on committee recommendations to better focus the scope of review. 834 01:35:01,180 --> 01:35:01,860 Next slide. 835 01:35:03,140 --> 01:35:16,240 Updating the principles of urban design, the principles of urban design, guide the committee's ongoing review of DP approvals, and we're originally established during the formation of the committee in 2005. 836 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:27,740 The review of these principles was identified by industry stakeholders as key action during the preparation of the standards and procedures in 2020 and 2022. 837 01:35:27,740 --> 01:35:34,860 After completing two phases of industry engagement, including online surveys and one-on-one interviews, 838 01:35:35,580 --> 01:35:42,700 EDC in collaboration with City Administration, developed new EDC principles of urban design, 839 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:51,360 which articulate six key principles that better reflect best practice and align with both Connect Edmonton and the City Plan. 840 01:35:51,360 --> 01:36:04,240 To complement these new principles, the committee has also developed a new EDC submission guide, currently in its final draft form, that includes improved submission and evaluation processes. 841 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:14,260 The updated principles of urban design were presented to urban planning committee on Mark 4th of 2025 and key feedback is being reviewed. 842 01:36:14,260 --> 01:36:24,020 The intent is to implement these updated principles of urban design and the submission guide with the new EDC term beginning in May of 2025. 843 01:36:25,460 --> 01:36:26,060 Next slide. 844 01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:31,200 So an overview of the new principles of urban design. 845 01:36:31,980 --> 01:36:44,220 The first two authentic and meaningful celebrating people and place cultures and natural and built heritage will promoting the evolution of culture for generations to come. 846 01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:50,580 Healthy and inclusive, creating those safe and welcoming spaces for people of all cultures 847 01:36:50,580 --> 01:36:53,480 in comes ages and abilities in genders. 848 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,120 Next slide. 849 01:36:56,740 --> 01:37:01,900 Attractive in human scales, creating comfortable, well-scaled public spaces that support 850 01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:09,120 walkability and create a memorable city image, connected and walkable, integrating the movement of people 851 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:15,620 within sites and public spaces across the multitude of modes, systems, and scales with a focus 852 01:37:15,620 --> 01:37:17,460 on walking and wheeling. 853 01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:24,740 Next slide, resilient and sustainable, facilitating urbanization that supports energy transition 854 01:37:24,740 --> 01:37:29,060 and climate resilience, and reduces our ecological footprint. 855 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:40,540 We've been providing enabling diverse activities, amenities, and uses that contribute to lively people, focus, places. Next slide. 856 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:55,040 Review of the EDC boundary and scope of review. The EDC by law describes a geographical boundary, which is the key trigger for the review of development applications by EDC. 857 01:37:55,040 --> 01:38:05,080 Similar to the update to the principles of urban design, the review of this boundary was identified by industry during our engagement and preparation of the standards and procedures. 858 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:20,780 The scope of work completed this past year is limited only to the review of the current boundary and identification of potential boundary changes or potential methodologies for triggering an EDC review or assumption. 859 01:38:20,780 --> 01:38:48,680 The committee has only identified four potential changes that show in on this slide, aligning the EDC boundary to nodes and corridors, reviewing projects adjacent to major transportation corridors, reviewing all large site resilience regardless of the proximity to transit centers and improving the project exemption process with clear principles for when existing criteria do not readily apply. 860 01:38:48,680 --> 01:39:07,020 Please note that the 2025-2026 Work Plan is scheduled to be finalized by the end of the current term and the intent to review these four items in further detail and recommends specific changes with an amendment to the EDC by law as appropriate. 861 01:39:07,020 --> 01:39:08,460 Next slide. 862 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:17,020 Proposed 2025-2026 work plan. As to the proposed work plan, the committee 863 01:39:17,020 --> 01:39:23,640 requests that a subcommittee be established for the duration of the 2025-2026 term. These 864 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:29,480 tasks are in addition to the ongoing goal of reviewing development applications. We would 865 01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:34,820 also like to note that this proposed work plan can be undertaken using existing administrative 866 01:39:34,820 --> 01:39:41,700 of resources and no additional budget will be required. Prior to concluding, I would like to acknowledge 867 01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:48,320 our city of Edmonton Administration liaison contributions. Peter Spirie, Ashley Rowan, 868 01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:54,900 and by extension West Sims, they are invaluable to the success of our committee and our subcommittees 869 01:39:54,900 --> 01:40:00,900 work. Their efforts go above and beyond just administrative support. I also want to thank our 870 01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:08,640 Councilor Liaison, Councillor Aaron Pachat, for his continued support. Next slide. And with 871 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:13,420 that, I'd like to thank you for your time and welcome any questions of the committee. 872 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:18,560 Great, thank you so much for the excellent presentation. Councillor Pachat, would you be interested 873 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,440 in putting the recommendation on the floor? 874 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:28,500 Well, I was considering my continuing support, but I consider it, and I think yes, absolutely. 875 01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:29,220 All 876 01:40:32,740 --> 01:40:37,220 right, we'll get that up on the screen just so you can read that in and we can get a seconder. 877 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:45,020 Yeah, I move that the Edmonton Historical Board's request to establish for subcontinent. 878 01:40:45,700 --> 01:40:50,240 Oh, sorry. In the new morning, it's one subcommittee for the 2025 work plan. 879 01:40:50,380 --> 01:40:55,160 As outlined in attachment three of the March have 2025 offices in the City Clerk report. 880 01:40:56,260 --> 01:40:56,860 Be approved. 881 01:40:58,300 --> 01:40:58,780 Second. 882 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:00,440 Thank you. 883 01:41:00,440 --> 01:41:02,320 Councillor Baked, do you also have questions? 884 01:41:03,220 --> 01:41:05,620 Just, yeah, a couple, please. 885 01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:12,780 And the first would just be, so there's, obviously, 886 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,780 there's a clear need for this. 887 01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:19,640 But one of the concerns I sometimes hear 888 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:24,840 is that while committee can make recommendations, 889 01:41:25,300 --> 01:41:28,780 they're not always followed through and how can 890 01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:30,580 council help with that? 891 01:41:34,260 --> 01:41:40,660 Well I think that lens itself to us being an advisory committee of council. 892 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:48,520 I think that the committee always tries to provide enough information in our recommendations. 893 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:56,900 One to any reports that go to council that there's enough information to read and understand the concerns of the 894 01:41:56,900 --> 01:42:02,880 committee and also we try and make sure that our motions have enough information so that 895 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:11,800 city administration or development officers can take it. So I think the continued support 896 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:17,060 of making sure that our recommendations are read would be really appreciated. 897 01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:23,760 Yeah and it's that follow through that I'm curious about and maybe this is a discussion for another 898 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,540 time, just let me know. 899 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:36,080 Hey, one of our work plan goals for 2025-2026 is actually to have an engagement session 900 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:42,960 with Council, such as do a Councillor luncheon, one to just provide a greater overview 901 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:49,260 to what the committee is about and what our day-to-day tasks is, and I think it would 902 01:42:49,260 --> 01:42:55,520 and a good opportunity for us to have that discussion of what we could do to help support council 903 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,720 and potentially what council could do to support us. 904 01:42:59,080 --> 01:42:59,560 Great, perfect. 905 01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:00,400 Thank you so much. 906 01:43:00,620 --> 01:43:03,060 Thank you for all the hard work you will do. 907 01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:03,980 Great. 908 01:43:04,020 --> 01:43:04,940 Councillor Stevenson. 909 01:43:05,420 --> 01:43:06,200 Thank you very much. 910 01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:07,540 And thanks to the great work. 911 01:43:07,700 --> 01:43:11,060 It's awesome to see some of the moves that you see is making. 912 01:43:11,620 --> 01:43:19,080 I appreciate the realignment of boundaries and the geography that you're looking at for 913 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:25,640 next year or this year, just when anything's been any conversation around potentially moving 914 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:30,820 towards having rather than panels of the whole, sort of smaller panels, tell 915 01:43:30,820 --> 01:43:34,420 to get through more, more applications if needed. 916 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:42,820 Yeah, so currently under the current kind of four bullet points that we had for the real 917 01:43:42,820 --> 01:43:51,860 at the boundary. Administration did review the number of permits in 2023 for both what they 918 01:43:51,860 --> 01:43:59,240 existing EDC area was, as well as kind of the areas that would correspond to that center 919 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:06,060 node and primary corridors. We sort of anticipate the node and corridor geometry represents 920 01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:14,180 probably about a 25% increase in the project and write this second. We actually think 921 01:44:14,180 --> 01:44:21,060 that the committee feels that this increase could potentially be offset by additional 922 01:44:21,060 --> 01:44:25,260 project exemptions that we're currently also working through at the same time. 923 01:44:26,660 --> 01:44:32,200 In regards to having kind of sub breakout groups to get through more applications, 924 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:40,400 One of the strongest assets to the committee is our diversity and having such a diverse background. 925 01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:45,160 So currently the committee is comprised of 12 members. 926 01:44:45,620 --> 01:44:52,980 There's a representation from architects, engineers, landscape architects, planners, 927 01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:58,220 post-secondary institutions, members at large, the development industry, 928 01:44:58,220 --> 01:44:59,520 Edmonton Arts Council. 929 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:15,520 Some of which only hold one position. So it would be very difficult to separate those diverse positions that only hold one seat into separate kind of breakout. 930 01:45:16,140 --> 01:45:16,160 Okay. 931 01:45:16,820 --> 01:45:27,640 Yeah, I appreciate that. I think something for us to sort of keep our eye on as we, again, hopefully continue to see a rise in development permits in the two de areas, but appreciate that reflection. 932 01:45:28,380 --> 01:45:33,520 You know, just going through the New Urban Design Principles, I think those are really exciting. 933 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,900 I think, you know, really captures some some critical pieces there. 934 01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:42,780 I did just wonder if there was a conversation around the healthy and inclusive. 935 01:45:43,540 --> 01:45:47,380 I just know that it's immediately talked about safe communities. 936 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:54,300 You just wondering why safe and inclusive wasn't taken as sort of the headline for that principle, 937 01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:59,320 recognizing that, you know, being a safe city as it is, is a key priority at council. 938 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:06,220 Yeah, so I would say the committee sees safety as an integral element of the health and 939 01:46:06,220 --> 01:46:13,340 healthy and inclusive principle. However, as the principles are refined over the coming weeks, 940 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:19,670 the committee will strive to provide more clarity regarding this. This is one of the items that 941 01:46:19,670 --> 01:46:27,810 came out of our presentation on March 4th, I went to UPC. So the subcommittee is going to 942 01:46:27,810 --> 01:46:36,690 work through those comments currently. Oh great. Yeah, and I think even some of the ways that 943 01:46:36,690 --> 01:46:42,050 buildings you contribute to safety in terms of overlook and those elements, I think could really 944 01:46:42,050 --> 01:46:44,490 really help strengthen that. Also, just wondering as well, 945 01:46:46,990 --> 01:46:48,370 I know that there's sort of the urban 946 01:46:48,370 --> 01:46:51,410 And then there's also the design priorities. 947 01:46:52,050 --> 01:46:53,590 Just wondering what the relationship was 948 01:46:53,590 --> 01:46:56,030 between those two pieces. 949 01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,130 Well, I would say that the principles represent 950 01:47:01,340 --> 01:47:03,640 the desired city building outcomes 951 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,740 were kind of the why. 952 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,020 Whereas the design priorities speak more 953 01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:12,900 to traditional design considerations and processes 954 01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:14,940 or the how. 955 01:47:15,660 --> 01:47:19,240 In this sense, they work in kind of a complimentary fashion. 956 01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:26,540 Okay, that's helpful, that, yeah, I really appreciate that, that lens to it. 957 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,820 Great, thank you so much, I appreciate and appreciate the ongoing work. 958 01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:32,420 Councillor Tang? 959 01:47:33,940 --> 01:47:34,340 Yeah, great. 960 01:47:34,340 --> 01:47:36,160 Thank you very much, Jan, for the presentation. 961 01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:43,320 So just to help me better understand, having the six principles, and I'm assuming 962 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:48,400 that's incorporating the submission guys, applicants can understand kind of what are 963 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:55,080 committee typically looks for and then they can strive for that right. Correct. Yeah. As a prior 964 01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,740 to the six principles, there's no principle or is this like update? 965 01:48:01,980 --> 01:48:04,360 So currently there are 966 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:12,640 principles of urban design, but as I noted during the presentation, they were created back in 2005. 967 01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:19,620 So, the committee felt that they were not just the committee, also industry felt that they were quite outdated. 968 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:34,500 So, this update to the principles of urban design are to real line the principles with kind of current priorities and also in response to industry. 969 01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:41,240 Yeah, no, that's great. I like them and I'm sorry, miss that in your presentation. I guess something like as I look at these principles 970 01:48:42,580 --> 01:48:49,660 I think about, you know, some of our current trends and challenges the city is facing with growth 971 01:48:51,560 --> 01:49:02,700 With implementation of some of the lands use policies and some of the I think change management that's happening at the very local level 972 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:10,020 one thing I do here comes up all the time is you know we're replacing homes that's been 973 01:49:10,020 --> 01:49:17,260 here for decades with new homes that just have really ugly design and you know this 974 01:49:17,260 --> 01:49:22,440 now we should build a city and you know but if I think about some of the you know the 975 01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:27,360 infield development it's it's really kind of I think about these principles that that 976 01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:31,900 you're talking about here I guess just like maybe in general what you know what's 977 01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:39,420 of advice on the things that you see and the conversations that the committee typically have 978 01:49:43,870 --> 01:49:52,350 with, with, I guess, conversations we may have with Emantonians. That's drive to a here 979 01:49:52,350 --> 01:49:58,430 to city policy, to face the challenge that we're facing, because I feel like design comes 980 01:49:58,430 --> 01:50:07,190 up as a crutch, and I, I don't know if I'm articulating this appropriately, but I struggle 981 01:50:07,190 --> 01:50:08,270 with that. 982 01:50:08,630 --> 01:50:09,750 So, just seeking some advice. 983 01:50:10,610 --> 01:50:17,830 Yeah, so I would say, if you, you know, listen to any meeting, especially where it's 984 01:50:17,830 --> 01:50:23,710 in kind of the, you know, existing development and that, the committee spends a lot of time 985 01:50:23,710 --> 01:50:33,130 looking at existing contacts, what's surrounding it, we kind of look at, you know, any existing 986 01:50:33,130 --> 01:50:39,650 setbacks on adjacent properties, not only the properties that are under review, so there's 987 01:50:39,650 --> 01:50:48,030 a lot of conversation on whether or not developments should be leaning towards more fitting 988 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:55,130 in and integrating to existing context or whether or not the developments are kind of setting 989 01:50:55,130 --> 01:51:02,830 what we would say is the future context of the areas, especially areas where we see a lot of 990 01:51:02,830 --> 01:51:11,610 redevelopment going on. So I think just understanding that there is lots of conversation 991 01:51:11,610 --> 01:51:18,610 And in the deliberations and regards to what the existing context is. 992 01:51:21,490 --> 01:51:24,770 Okay. Yeah, thanks for that. 993 01:51:26,030 --> 01:51:28,290 That's it. That's all my questions. Thanks so much for your work. 994 01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:32,390 Thank you. Not seeing any further questions. 995 01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:34,090 Is there anyone who would like to speak to this item? 996 01:51:38,650 --> 01:51:40,230 If not, I'll go to Councillor Piquette. 997 01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:42,890 Great. Thank you. 998 01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:45,490 And again, thank you to Edmonton Design Committee. 999 01:51:46,750 --> 01:51:49,610 I'm always just absolutely fascinating meetings. 1000 01:51:50,910 --> 01:51:55,170 They're so interesting, and I've learned so much. 1001 01:51:55,730 --> 01:51:59,730 Just enough to potentially be dangerous if I didn't keep my nose out. 1002 01:52:00,890 --> 01:52:03,810 So thank you for all the work you do in the thoughtfulness 1003 01:52:03,810 --> 01:52:08,750 that the whole advisory brings to the work. 1004 01:52:08,750 --> 01:52:20,110 I've seen conversations occur in real time, the impact, how a structure can unfold and impact 1005 01:52:20,110 --> 01:52:25,090 to a community, and it's always going, you know, I find it fascinating to see the ways in 1006 01:52:25,090 --> 01:52:29,970 a common lay person like myself wouldn't 1007 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:44,860 Not a lot of fun about those elements that ultimately become incredibly important. Not only to the structure, but to the quality of life and to the community extension, and even to the aesthetics, which is really interesting. 1008 01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:51,740 I mean, my only complaint is that there's not more color, but we'll leave it at that. And thank you very much for all your hard work. 1009 01:52:52,700 --> 01:52:53,180 Thank you. 1010 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:53,500 Thank you. 1011 01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:56,160 Thanks so much. 1012 01:52:56,480 --> 01:52:57,040 Please vote. 1013 01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:11,860 We have a vote. 1014 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:12,840 Just play the vote. 1015 01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:17,140 That's carried. 1016 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:17,960 Great. 1017 01:53:18,020 --> 01:53:19,780 Well, thank you so much for joining us, Janice. 1018 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,060 I really appreciate your time today and for answering all of our questions. 1019 01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:29,980 And of course, the entire Edmonton Design Committee really appreciate your dedication to helping shape our communities for generations to come. 1020 01:53:30,340 --> 01:53:31,260 Thank you. 1021 01:53:31,540 --> 01:53:32,020 Thank you. 1022 01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:36,100 All right. 1023 01:53:36,900 --> 01:53:38,800 Now we're a little ahead of schedule. 1024 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:46,940 So I am just going to check in Jenny Elberg's is ready to go get nons. Yes, Jenny are you online with us? 1025 01:53:48,260 --> 01:53:50,160 Yes, I'm here ready to go. Awesome. 1026 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:58,100 So next up is a community services advisory board with chair Jenny Elberg's and I believe there's a presentation up on the screen. 1027 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:03,520 So we'll hand it over for every presentation and then to follow with questions. Go ahead Jenny. 1028 01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:05,820 Perfect. Thank you so much. 1029 01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,940 So thank you everyone for having 1030 01:54:08,940 --> 01:54:09,920 ceased up here today. 1031 01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,040 So my name is Jenny Albers and I'm the chair of the community services 1032 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,120 advisory board. 1033 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,120 Other known as CSAB. 1034 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:20,220 And I'm excited to provide an overview of our 2022 annual report 1035 01:54:20,220 --> 01:54:23,180 and then upcoming work plan for this year. 1036 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:24,460 Next slide, please. 1037 01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,360 So just as a reminder, the metadata 1038 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,420 the community services advisory board, 1039 01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:33,780 so CSAB is to provide advice regarding grant funding 1040 01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:39,340 and have a key role in developing a long-term plan for community services and a city of 1041 01:54:39,340 --> 01:54:39,940 eminent. 1042 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:46,860 These have been comprised of 13 board members, and last year we welcome three new board members 1043 01:54:46,860 --> 01:54:48,200 to the team. 1044 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:54,180 Also last year we had one subcommittee, so the family and community support services subcommittee, 1045 01:54:54,860 --> 01:54:59,680 which was comprised of both C sub board members and community members, that's of course 1046 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:09,520 SCSS grant program. Next slide please. So, in reviewing 2024, CSAP completed some great 1047 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:15,020 accomplishments to support community services and emitting. Looking back at our work plan 1048 01:55:15,020 --> 01:55:21,600 from last year, we had four main priority areas, and I just wanted to share a few highlights. 1049 01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:27,900 So, under affordable housing and homeless prevention, the Board of Education was city administration 1050 01:55:27,900 --> 01:55:32,560 and increased understanding of priorities and current work of the city's affordable housing 1051 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:37,820 and prevention of homelessness strategy. The board provided feedback on future strategies 1052 01:55:37,820 --> 01:55:43,340 and shared connections with local community. For the second goal, community safety and 1053 01:55:43,340 --> 01:55:49,260 well-being, the board engaged with city administration on priorities and her work in community safety 1054 01:55:49,260 --> 01:55:56,080 and well-being. So this included increasing understanding of the city's community safety and 1055 01:55:56,080 --> 01:56:02,280 strategy. The board also provided feedback to Council on the first iteration of the public 1056 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:09,320 spaces by law. The board also engaged on the safe and inclusive spaces report. And then the 1057 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:14,080 board also learned from community organizations such as Wall Street Community Services and 1058 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:19,780 Emmeton H-Friendly Alliance about their parties for community safety and while being at Emmeton. 1059 01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:27,420 For the third party, it was about family and community support services or the FCSS program. 1060 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:35,680 So the Board provided recommendations for the FCSS program to increase social inclusion and equity by finding programs and services 1061 01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,700 Community Development Initiatives and Social Infrastructure. 1062 01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:44,940 So a couple of highlights included a one-year extension of funding to seven organizations 1063 01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:50,580 who's funding within the social infrastructure and strong sectors stream 1064 01:56:50,580 --> 01:56:52,460 was inspiring at the end of 2024. 1065 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,520 And then it was also supporting the funding of two organizations that approach 1066 01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:05,220 of CSS for funding in 2025, due to changes and funding from other community funder, so both programs 1067 01:57:05,220 --> 01:57:11,160 advance along inclusion as well as community development, which align to our FCSS priorities. 1068 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:18,060 And then another exciting piece under the FCSS program is the board held its first eminent 1069 01:57:18,060 --> 01:57:26,120 FCSS board chair networking event in November as a principal's armory, it was a super successful event. 1070 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:33,060 We have 39 board chairs from agencies funded to provide FCS programs and services in attendance. 1071 01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:39,260 So there's a great opportunity for board chairs, these have members and administration to connect. 1072 01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:48,260 Board chairs received an overview of FCS program along with current social services, research and current trends from one of our board members. 1073 01:57:48,260 --> 01:57:55,700 As well, they engaged an active discussion on current issues with their boards and community services in META. 1074 01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:05,180 We'd also like to thank the Edmonton Chamber of Honorary Organizations, who was in attendance and provided information and connections to the boardchairs. 1075 01:58:05,860 --> 01:58:11,000 And I will make a note to, because I know how this is really interesting in that CSS program. 1076 01:58:11,700 --> 01:58:21,740 So there will be a full sum of energy and SES report that will be shared in spring of this year with more information around the key results of the program coming soon. 1077 01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:26,440 And then the fourth priority was the Community Investment and Operating Grant. 1078 01:58:26,740 --> 01:58:33,980 So the Board provided recommendations about the grant, which provides operating assistance to not-for-profit organizations 1079 01:58:33,980 --> 01:58:38,020 to help them provide programs, services, and activities that are fitting the residents' 1080 01:58:38,660 --> 01:58:44,880 engine. The Board recommended a few changes surrounding the grant program, so it included 1081 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:52,160 removing the appeal process starting this year in 2025. Also launching the grant earlier 1082 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:59,240 in November 2024 and then closing at the end of January 2025, which results in organizations 1083 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:06,020 receiving their funding earlier in the year to support with operations and then also the board 1084 01:59:06,020 --> 01:59:12,960 reviewed and updated the spring matrix and social service eligibility. So beyond the big four 1085 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:18,100 priorities the board also had an opportunity to engage with a few other pieces of city administration. 1086 01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:26,640 So the board provided feedback to the 2025 Emmaton election around proposed accessibility and inclusion 1087 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:32,220 strategy is to increase engagement as well the Board of Education and presentation with an 1088 01:59:32,220 --> 01:59:36,160 Hamilton Police Commission member to learn about the Hamilton Police Commission role and 1089 01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:42,600 responsibilities. And then of course we celebrated RC7, FCSS committee members and a volunteer 1090 01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:49,880 appreciation event while building board relations and community connections. Next slide please. 1091 01:59:50,940 --> 01:59:58,040 So, looking forward to our 2025 work plan, we've shifted a little bit to three 1092 01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,540 main goals for the year. 1093 02:00:00,110 --> 02:00:10,110 So, the first one is the FCS Program. So, this includes work for the next funding cycles. So, the 2026-2028 funding cycle. 1094 02:00:10,430 --> 02:00:20,730 As the board will learn about the process of reviewing funding cycle applications that review the applications for the first part of 2025 and provide recommendations. 1095 02:00:21,690 --> 02:00:27,530 As well, there's ongoing work where the board and our subcommittee will continue to support the visit 1096 02:00:27,530 --> 02:00:33,130 current funded programs, and as well as since our board chair event, the Social Successful 1097 02:00:33,130 --> 02:00:40,050 last year, we are looking at almost another event for board chairs with FCFS funded programs and 1098 02:00:40,050 --> 02:00:46,730 late spring. The second goal is around community services, so continuing to engage with city administration 1099 02:00:46,730 --> 02:00:53,070 on community services priorities. So this is included the new public spaces by law which we're 1100 02:00:53,070 --> 02:00:59,990 ready to engage on along with a coming engagement on equitable recreational programming and then 1101 02:00:59,990 --> 02:01:06,670 other priorities which will confirm more in the fall once SPS has been worked through. 1102 02:01:08,070 --> 02:01:13,930 And then the third goal is around the community investment operating grant programs. So that includes 1103 02:01:13,930 --> 02:01:19,110 support with review of implementation and grant applications for the 2025 cycle. 1104 02:01:20,810 --> 02:01:27,550 As part of our work plan, we are requesting that the current FCSS subcommittee continues this year 1105 02:01:27,550 --> 02:01:33,570 as it provides advice to CSAP on funding recommendations and is imperative to supporting 1106 02:01:33,570 --> 02:01:42,670 in that 2026 to 2028 funding cycle as we start to receive and review applications once the 1107 02:01:42,670 --> 02:01:50,150 application has been posted and closed. SESA subcommittee has been existed for the past 19 years 1108 02:01:50,150 --> 02:01:58,250 of CSAM, so I'm sure that ongoing support for the workflow of the SESA program. And then also included 1109 02:01:58,250 --> 02:02:02,150 is a bit about our budget and resource allocation for this year. 1110 02:02:03,310 --> 02:02:09,010 So around the budget piece, we did include our proposed budget from last year and then our 1111 02:02:09,010 --> 02:02:15,250 actuals. Our actuals were a bit lower than expected, just due to being able to use 1112 02:02:15,250 --> 02:02:21,610 the facilities, which have less hosting fees, and we have less in-person events than we thought 1113 02:02:21,610 --> 02:02:29,550 have. So it was a little bit of offstage on that end. However, our proposed budget for 2025 does 1114 02:02:29,550 --> 02:02:37,410 align with our proposed for 2024 due to providing that upcoming board-chir event in the spring. 1115 02:02:38,450 --> 02:02:46,450 Also providing specific recognition to both RC7 and SDSF members for their work in reviewing all of the 1116 02:02:46,450 --> 02:02:53,670 of SDSS applications coming up and then also providing learning opportunities for board members 1117 02:02:53,670 --> 02:02:56,930 as there is an annual SDSS conference as well. 1118 02:02:58,030 --> 02:03:02,070 On the city resources side we'd like to thank the community services department for their 1119 02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:06,390 ongoing administration support and we're excited to continue to work with them again this 1120 02:03:06,390 --> 02:03:07,070 year. 1121 02:03:07,650 --> 02:03:13,570 The administration support has been adjusted to reflect their current support level, which includes 1122 02:03:13,570 --> 02:03:20,650 changes in staff along with the upcoming 26 to 28 funding cycle which will take a bit more work on the 1123 02:03:20,650 --> 02:03:28,930 event side as well. Next slide please. As we wrap up, I just want to like to say a big thank you 1124 02:03:28,930 --> 02:03:35,650 to Councillor Wright for her leadership, education and continuous support to CSOW. We're very excited 1125 02:03:35,650 --> 02:03:41,190 and looking forward to 2022 and continuing to provide advice on long-term planning for community 1126 02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:48,530 services in Hamilton. So open it up to any questions and I also have Judy Smith from 1127 02:03:48,530 --> 02:03:51,990 Administration Community Services on the call as well. 1128 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:58,220 Great, thank you so much for the presentation. We'll now go to questions, but first I'll go 1129 02:03:58,220 --> 02:04:00,880 to Councillor Wright if you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor. 1130 02:04:01,220 --> 02:04:05,280 Very interested in putting the recommendation on the floor. So I recommend that the community 1131 02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:11,260 services advisory boards request to establish one subcommittee for the 2025 work plan as outlined 1132 02:04:11,260 --> 02:04:15,260 and in attachment three of the March 10, 2025 Office 1133 02:04:15,260 --> 02:04:19,640 of the City Clerk Report, OCC 02859, be approved. 1134 02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:21,540 Second. 1135 02:04:22,580 --> 02:04:23,460 Thank you. 1136 02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:27,220 And we'll just go back to the board here, 1137 02:04:27,220 --> 02:04:29,440 so I can see a list of folks who have questions. 1138 02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:32,100 Councillor Ray, do you want to start? 1139 02:04:32,420 --> 02:04:32,700 Sure. 1140 02:04:33,060 --> 02:04:34,120 Looks like I'll start in an. 1141 02:04:35,980 --> 02:04:36,420 Hi, Jenny. 1142 02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:37,940 Thanks very much for the presentation, 1143 02:04:38,740 --> 02:04:39,940 and for all the reporting. 1144 02:04:39,940 --> 02:04:48,400 I'm just, I see in the budget that the learning opportunities or the funding for the learning 1145 02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:53,860 opportunities has increased and that's so more members can attend is that right? 1146 02:04:54,860 --> 02:04:55,620 Yes, that's correct. 1147 02:04:55,780 --> 02:05:01,740 So specifically to attend that FCSS annual conference so that we have more ability for more 1148 02:05:01,740 --> 02:05:04,240 members to attend the conference coming up. 1149 02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:11,680 Okay. And that helps in them. I would assume that would help in them making their decisions on the 1150 02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:18,860 FCSF funding recommendations. Yeah, if it helps. So the conference itself is really helps to 1151 02:05:18,860 --> 02:05:24,580 connect with other municipalities, understand a bit more at the FCSF program in other municipalities 1152 02:05:24,580 --> 02:05:31,740 and in Alberta as well. So creating those connections within the community just helps in reviewing 1153 02:05:31,740 --> 02:05:38,320 the SSS funding cycle applications in the future, okay, perfect, because that's a pretty long 1154 02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:41,200 involved process and that's why we need the subcommittee, right? 1155 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:45,040 Yes, the subcommittee is 1156 02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:50,400 definitely beneficial because there's a lot of work for the board to review the applications 1157 02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:55,780 and then the subcommittee does have community members, but the community members have been past these 1158 02:05:55,780 --> 02:06:00,780 submembers, so they come with a lot of experience in scale set as well. Okay, well that's good, 1159 02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:06,780 And then with the CIOG, because I think we took away the subcommittee last year for that. 1160 02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:14,960 How has that been managed with just the committee of the whole doing the decisioning? 1161 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:20,200 Yeah. So without the subcommittee, we've moved the work to the Board of the CIOG committee, 1162 02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:26,480 which has been managed. So we aren't looking for a subcommittee specifically for CIOG again, moving forward. 1163 02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:31,640 So, the board is speaking on that work and it's definitely sustainable for the future. 1164 02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:33,760 Okay, good, good to hear. 1165 02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:39,440 Let's see what else did I have to ask you just two seconds. 1166 02:06:48,270 --> 02:06:54,730 Oh, I also noticed, in March, the March meeting. 1167 02:06:55,130 --> 02:07:00,550 I think we got a presentation on the Violence Prevention Plan, right? 1168 02:07:01,550 --> 02:07:07,590 And I'm just wondering what sort of, or is that one coming up? Sorry, just hang on. 1169 02:07:08,590 --> 02:07:13,290 Yeah, that's coming up. Yeah, okay, sorry. So from that, I'm just wondering how much, 1170 02:07:13,290 --> 02:07:18,670 sort of how much was your advice or recommendations incorporated into that? 1171 02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:28,260 So that one's coming up, I believe. Yeah, coming up in this work time. It was in last year. 1172 02:07:28,540 --> 02:07:29,960 So we'll have to review how. 1173 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,940 The Board can engage with that and provide support and feedback on the boards. 1174 02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:42,120 But, and then, otherwise, with what you've provided to the different presentations that have come forward, 1175 02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:47,200 do you see that your feedbacks incorporated or taken into account? 1176 02:07:49,060 --> 02:07:53,520 Yeah, city administration overall is being really great. To work with on the engagement level, 1177 02:07:53,520 --> 02:08:00,680 So, we do ask that when City Amendment comes to see some that they are coming with an engagement opportunity. 1178 02:08:01,260 --> 02:08:13,800 So, providing information about what they're working on but then how can see that how to shape and form that or use community resources or connections to support with that initiative moving forward. 1179 02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:21,020 So, that was for 12 sort of have that service expectation piece from City Administration. 1180 02:08:21,580 --> 02:08:29,000 so that they get the most out of the board's feet apart. And that's the board can actually contribute as well to different 1181 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:35,240 cany service initiatives and parties of the city. Okay, that's great because that's part of the mandate, isn't it? 1182 02:08:35,820 --> 02:08:43,480 Okay, I think that is all I have. Thank you. I think, yeah, the group there. Oh, one other question, sorry. 1183 02:08:44,260 --> 02:08:46,080 In regards to the new structure with administration, 1184 02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:49,180 how you found that? 1185 02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,180 It's been really great. 1186 02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,600 The new structure has provided more support. 1187 02:08:54,780 --> 02:08:57,320 I would say for CSF administrative wise. 1188 02:08:58,160 --> 02:08:59,580 So that's been really helpful. 1189 02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:03,320 It's only shifted over the last couple of months. 1190 02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:11,380 But I do think it helps in providing more information about upcoming reports and other connections with them in for CSF specifically. 1191 02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:16,220 So we do thank you that there's the additional support added so that is well. 1192 02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:17,780 Okay, that's great to hear. 1193 02:09:17,780 --> 02:09:22,620 Okay, that's all I have, so thank you again to you and the whole CSAT board. 1194 02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:24,500 Thank you, Councillor Ting. 1195 02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:31,940 Thank you, Jenny, for your presentation and to the whole committee. You have some 1196 02:09:31,940 --> 02:09:38,560 pretty big portfolios and you know, selection that that really is always very felt in the 1197 02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:44,820 community and I hear about these grants all the time. So just want to thank the committee for 1198 02:09:44,820 --> 02:09:52,120 that work. Earlier in your presentation, you have some engagement opportunities say with like 1199 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:57,340 the 2025 election. You just clarify it like so the purpose of that is to inform Canada, 1200 02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:02,560 it's about the work of CSAP or yeah, can you just like, I was wondering if you can elaborate 1201 02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:10,440 on that. For sure. So that opportunity came to the board. So sometimes we do find that outside 1202 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:18,160 In fact, community services around with the city, there's other engaged opportunities where the city has asked for these types of advice. 1203 02:10:18,820 --> 02:10:31,800 So, eminent elections came to see some with the opportunity to provide feedback on eminent elections proposed accessibility and inclusion strategies to increase engagement in that selection. 1204 02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:41,400 So they provided a bit of overview of the strategy they were working on for this election and then the board was able to provide some feedback on that. 1205 02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:58,000 So there's a great opportunity which isn't perfectly tire the community services lens, but definitely having the board with all of its different relationships and experience and community services helps to provide some feedback for future voter engagement. 1206 02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:10,400 Great, and then for the police commission, because I think I've seen that engagement with other committees as well, and it's just more familiar familiarity of committee members with that word that body as well, right? 1207 02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:19,100 Yes, and Councillor Wright provided that connection, so that was really great to provide a cross connection of sort of committees and boards. 1208 02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:25,700 It's great learning to, for the Board to understand sort of the EPSA's role and different 1209 02:11:25,700 --> 02:11:27,100 community safety pieces. 1210 02:11:27,500 --> 02:11:32,140 So having that cross-contsection will definitely something we'll have to look forward to in the future 1211 02:11:32,140 --> 02:11:35,120 as well to understand how other committees and boards are working. 1212 02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:49,020 And then things, and I wanted to ask sort of about FCSS as a whole, that funding from the 1213 02:11:49,020 --> 02:11:57,580 argue it's is actually a decrease, wondering if if the committee has conversations about you know 1214 02:11:57,580 --> 02:12:04,020 are you hearing some of the challenges or just some of the difficulty with that? 1215 02:12:06,460 --> 02:12:12,560 So I can't say so when we have that board chair event, back in November we did an activity to 1216 02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:17,960 understand what were sort of the big parties that board chairs were hearing and for their board 1217 02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:29,580 And one of the biggest pieces I came up with funding, funding, funding, sustainable funding and funding that they know sort of where to buy and to get the information. 1218 02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:36,960 So they definitely enjoy understanding more of the FCSS key. So that's why I wanted to run another board chair event in the future. 1219 02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:44,560 But they definitely just continue to mention the priority of sort of lack of funding or looking for more funding opportunities. 1220 02:12:45,460 --> 02:12:51,740 So for us as a board, that's one way we can support is providing more information about SDSS and the 1221 02:12:51,740 --> 02:12:57,720 CIOG programs and then being able to support to other connections in the community. 1222 02:12:58,600 --> 02:13:02,680 So similarly, they mentioned around volunteer and support to engage in opportunities. 1223 02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:06,400 So having ACDO, there was a great connection here as well. 1224 02:13:07,220 --> 02:13:13,740 Yeah, last week we had the gathering of municipalities for the Spring Municipal Leadership Caucus 1225 02:13:13,740 --> 02:13:17,120 and the question of FCSS comes up every single year and no fail. 1226 02:13:18,220 --> 02:13:22,800 And I, you know, premieres at that, you know, we encourage, you know, the, you know, the 1227 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:27,800 provincial body of the FCSS to submit sort of an envelope approach for funding. 1228 02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:35,900 And I guess, like, I'm assuming like, they do that and I'm assuming M&T employees are pretty 1229 02:13:35,900 --> 02:13:41,260 strong role in demonstrating the outcomes achieved through FCSS. 1230 02:13:41,260 --> 02:13:47,680 I know we have very strong evaluation, so I just wanted to ask about a bit of perspective 1231 02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:49,140 from yourself or even Judy. 1232 02:13:52,940 --> 02:13:58,940 I'm happy to respond to that, Councillor Tanks, so there is lots of advocacy going on throughout 1233 02:13:58,940 --> 02:14:09,000 the province to try to get increases in FCSS, both the RMA and AM, I believe had positions 1234 02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:15,860 on not only increases the FCSSA, which is our provincial association, has been working hard and 1235 02:14:15,860 --> 02:14:16,500 Luke's step. 1236 02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:21,100 One of the C7 members and our FCSS chair is on that board now as a city representative 1237 02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:23,540 and hard on that. 1238 02:14:23,860 --> 02:14:32,020 So that continues to be an ongoing issue and yes, FCSS is showing our Edmonton program shows 1239 02:14:32,020 --> 02:14:38,460 great results from the program and great outcomes and we hope we can still keep pushing 1240 02:14:38,460 --> 02:14:43,040 on on that piece of work. Yeah, I just think if we make some progress there will might make the 1241 02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:48,280 CSS responsibility a little bit better. That's all. Thank you. 1242 02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:56,080 Great. Thank you so much. There's no further questions on the boards. Anyone speak to this? 1243 02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:58,740 I'll just briefly. Sounds great. Go ahead. If nobody else. 1244 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:14,380 I'll just briefly again say thank you very much for all the work that the committee does and for Judy and her team for helping to help us navigate the committee through it as well. Thank you. 1245 02:15:14,380 --> 02:15:15,700 Thank you, please vote. 1246 02:15:31,770 --> 02:15:33,790 Canals are jams are you with us one line by chance? 1247 02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:40,240 We have all the votes. 1248 02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:41,080 Just play the vote. 1249 02:15:45,050 --> 02:15:45,330 That's carried. 1250 02:15:45,930 --> 02:15:47,110 Great, thank you so much. 1251 02:15:47,530 --> 02:15:49,290 And Jenny really appreciate your time today. 1252 02:15:50,010 --> 02:15:52,750 And to the entire board, really appreciate all the work they do. 1253 02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:55,470 You have a significant body of work that touches so many aspects, 1254 02:15:55,670 --> 02:15:58,450 aspects of our community, and appreciate your dedication. 1255 02:16:01,860 --> 02:16:04,780 So looking at our agenda, we are at our 330 break. 1256 02:16:05,620 --> 02:16:12,480 So we can pause for 15 minutes and come back at 345 to the Accessibility Advisory Committee 1257 02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:17,960 with Tanya Le Revere, and following that we'll speak with the Energy Transition Climate Resilience 1258 02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:18,840 Committee of Council. 1259 02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,300 So we're on recess until 345, thanks everyone. 1260 02:31:46,740 --> 02:31:51,440 Councillor Prince Bay. Hello. Councillor Stevenson. Good afternoon. Councillor Perquett. 1261 02:31:55,140 --> 02:32:05,160 Councillor Tang. Good afternoon. Councillor Hamilton. Good afternoon. Councillor Rutherford. Hello. Councillor Carmel. 1262 02:32:06,220 --> 02:32:09,680 Good afternoon. Councillor Rice. Hello. Councillor Jans. 1263 02:32:12,140 --> 02:32:19,240 Good afternoon. Okay. So we're going to be moving on to accessibility advisory committee. 1264 02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:22,290 And I believe Tanya is online with us. 1265 02:32:25,020 --> 02:32:25,880 Tanya, are you there? 1266 02:32:26,300 --> 02:32:26,720 I am. 1267 02:32:27,020 --> 02:32:27,240 Yes, hello. 1268 02:32:27,740 --> 02:32:29,040 Awesome. Nice to see you. 1269 02:32:29,060 --> 02:32:31,000 Thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today. 1270 02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:35,780 So we have some time for presentation on your signs and some remarks, 1271 02:32:36,260 --> 02:32:38,930 followed by questions on our ends. So we'll turn the floor over to you. 1272 02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:40,850 Good. Thank you. 1273 02:32:41,500 --> 02:32:42,160 Good afternoon. 1274 02:32:43,020 --> 02:32:45,280 Those who don't know, my name is Tonya Lerivier. 1275 02:32:45,280 --> 02:32:52,740 On the current share of the accessibility advisory community, we're happy to be here to present a summary of the community's work and progress in 2024. 1276 02:32:54,000 --> 02:33:00,440 Reflecting the AAC's efforts to improve accessibility and inclusivity for individuals with disabilities in Ananton. 1277 02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:04,660 2024 works on goals and accomplishments. 1278 02:33:06,300 --> 02:33:12,140 Continue to align with our strategic planning session from 2022 and council priorities. 1279 02:33:13,340 --> 02:33:19,000 transportation. Our goal is to improve the rider experience and safety for people with disabilities. 1280 02:33:20,060 --> 02:33:24,740 We provided feedback on issues including the LRT communication tools on safety. 1281 02:33:25,460 --> 02:33:33,040 Snow removal on platforms, the assisted snow removal program, accessible parking and e-bike e-scooter regulations. 1282 02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:39,580 We saw increased enforcement of accessible parking violations with the rise in tickets from 1283 02:33:39,580 --> 02:33:45,540 3,000 in 6th in 2023 to 4,000 in 4,6th in 2024. 1284 02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:51,840 Engaged in consultations with Edmonton Transit and various accessibility initiatives, including 1285 02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:57,640 the art card, removed regular updates from, sorry, part of me, received regular updates, 1286 02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:03,740 or vehicle for higher, either in person or through their quarterly newsletter and express 1287 02:34:03,740 --> 02:34:09,440 concerns about transit services. I like to use blue curve paint as a visual indicator. 1288 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:16,660 Accessible housing, we send a letter to council advocating for accessible and affordable housing 1289 02:34:16,660 --> 02:34:22,300 policies, including tax incentives for developers, promoting better definitions of accessibility 1290 02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:29,220 in housing and build access to resources, education, and prioritizing accessibility, construction, 1291 02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:37,540 grants, and advocates to the province for accessibility legislation to improve regulatory requirements. 1292 02:34:39,140 --> 02:34:45,040 He participated in affordable housing, plan discussions, and I spoke at an MSC International 1293 02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:52,640 housing is a human right panel. Policy C602, the corporate accessibility policy and corporate 1294 02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:58,020 actions. The AC continues its involvement in updates and engagements regarding policy 1295 02:34:58,020 --> 02:35:05,440 C602, where I'm proving accessibility within city operations. Community engagement. We 1296 02:35:05,440 --> 02:35:09,740 held meetings with disability advocacy groups attending key disability related events, 1297 02:35:09,740 --> 02:35:14,120 I mean, to maintain the strong presence of social media to connect with the disability community. 1298 02:35:15,020 --> 02:35:19,080 He meetings and discussions, including a range of meetings, cover topics, including 1299 02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:27,300 the LRG communication, affordable housing, corporate accessibility policies, and snow removal program. 1300 02:35:27,980 --> 02:35:33,060 Yeah, AC also participated in various community safety and disability advocacy initiatives. 1301 02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:42,380 Membership of the appointment, the AAPS-2024-25 membership list includes diverse members with terms 1302 02:35:42,380 --> 02:35:45,000 running until 2026 or 2031. 1303 02:35:46,060 --> 02:35:50,140 We will be recruiting for five positions this term. 1304 02:35:51,080 --> 02:35:55,380 This is five positions as in a couple of days ago before that it was four. 1305 02:35:56,080 --> 02:36:02,320 So, the exact, and we will be meeting this evening to go over that membership list, and 1306 02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:08,180 will have an update or you want recommendations for tomorrow morning's meeting for membership 1307 02:36:08,180 --> 02:36:09,340 report. 1308 02:36:09,500 --> 02:36:15,100 Reports and communications, the AAC submitted letters to council addressing topics, such 1309 02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:20,580 as accessible housing, that's why they're support and single use by-laws, we also presented 1310 02:36:20,580 --> 02:36:25,100 the public hearings regarding accessible public spaces. 1311 02:36:36,420 --> 02:36:43,240 We have the capacity to respond to concerns that come up as they relate to council priorities. 1312 02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:52,780 However, the committee expresses concerns about reduced administrative support on a lower social media budget following structural changes. 1313 02:36:52,780 --> 02:36:57,800 This is all very new and positions are still being filled. 1314 02:36:58,580 --> 02:37:01,180 We want to emphasize the need for continued strong support 1315 02:37:01,180 --> 02:37:04,380 to ensure effective representation of the disability community. 1316 02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,600 We are about to let the news bear of the AAC tonight. 1317 02:37:09,420 --> 02:37:10,780 I've fulfilled my three-year term. 1318 02:37:11,380 --> 02:37:15,780 I wanted to genuinely thank admin, council, community and council for their support, 1319 02:37:16,520 --> 02:37:18,280 representation in the vastness and accessibility. 1320 02:37:19,020 --> 02:37:19,580 Thank you. 1321 02:37:19,580 --> 02:37:21,360 Thank you for 24 council representatives. 1322 02:37:22,060 --> 02:37:22,700 That's all right. 1323 02:37:23,020 --> 02:37:23,080 Thank you. 1324 02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:24,380 Thank you. 1325 02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:28,260 Thank you so much. 1326 02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:29,200 Councillor Ting. 1327 02:37:29,340 --> 02:37:29,960 I'll go to you. 1328 02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:35,000 If you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor, and asking questions. 1329 02:37:35,740 --> 02:37:42,520 Sure, yeah. I'll move the Accessibility Advisory Committee's request to establish two subcommittees for the 2025 Work Plan, 1330 02:37:42,700 --> 02:37:51,240 as outlined in Attachment 3 of the March 10, 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report, OCC-02857, be approved. 1331 02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:52,120 Second. 1332 02:37:56,560 --> 02:37:58,440 Thank you very much for the presentation, Tanya. 1333 02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:06,960 And thank you for your service for all these years, given that you're kind of passing on the torch. 1334 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:15,600 Maybe I'll start there, I'm sure there's lots in my shirt tonight at the meeting, but do you have any advice for the new chair? 1335 02:38:16,960 --> 02:38:20,860 For the new chair, to be honest, 1336 02:38:23,020 --> 02:38:26,580 so the new chair is going to be Dana and Tia Moore. 1337 02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:33,200 She is joining us just listening to this session this afternoon, assuming there are going 1338 02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:41,740 any mass objections. It will be by joining the Board at this moment. 1339 02:38:46,120 --> 02:38:49,760 I think she is probably one 1340 02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:55,220 of the most the best chairs that this community has seen. If you want to say I think I should be the 1341 02:38:55,220 --> 02:39:02,680 I'm asking her for advice when it comes to sharing an actual committee. 1342 02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:12,340 But basically it comes down to listening to the diverse voices and making sure everybody 1343 02:39:12,340 --> 02:39:21,320 has a chance to express their concerns, being often to everybody's experiences, and I have 1344 02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:23,900 absolutely no qualms that she's going to be doing. 1345 02:39:23,900 --> 02:39:31,220 That's awesome. Well, I think you've been very excellent as well and really enjoyed working with you. 1346 02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:37,880 I, I was, I have no doubt that will be kind of having more of these conversations this evening. 1347 02:39:39,020 --> 02:39:48,760 I wanted to get yours and so throughout the year you have lots of presentations from administration who come forward to seeking kind of feedback from the committee. 1348 02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:59,960 Do you feel that Mr. Jones responsive to the feedback are you seeing those feedback incorporated in the next iteration of those reports or policies? 1349 02:40:03,320 --> 02:40:06,260 It's been a really rewarding time to be a part of this community. 1350 02:40:07,020 --> 02:40:11,760 Especially with this new council because we're seeing most advance wills in accessibility being made. 1351 02:40:12,340 --> 02:40:15,280 And it is, I feel like I said this before. 1352 02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:19,120 I feel like the committee used to take on more of an advocacy position. 1353 02:40:19,700 --> 02:40:25,480 Now we're taking on more of that advisory position because there are those advancements being made up of the city. 1354 02:40:27,140 --> 02:40:27,980 Well, great. 1355 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:31,300 That's great to hear. 1356 02:40:31,900 --> 02:40:39,340 On, you know, in your activity, you've also reported on a number of presentation from some of the provincial bodies, 1357 02:40:39,420 --> 02:40:42,260 similar to AAC, but with other orders of government. 1358 02:40:43,860 --> 02:40:48,840 What's your, I guess, ideal, you know, obviously AAC 1359 02:40:48,840 --> 02:40:55,200 applies a lot of city related policies, programs, infrastructure projects, et cetera. 1360 02:40:55,660 --> 02:41:00,600 How do you see that overlap with some of the provincial bodies and how can we work together 1361 02:41:00,600 --> 02:41:06,620 to further amplify the work to better the accessibility community? 1362 02:41:08,260 --> 02:41:16,880 It's really important that Alberta has accessibility legislation and we don't, we're one of two provinces in Canada that doesn't. 1363 02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:34,360 So, you know, organizing and being able to present the need for that, for the municipality to do that with the provincial government, I think, is really key, but I think it also means to be an organized effort amongst the other municipalities in Alberta. 1364 02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:40,440 But that is a really, really important legislation that we need to see in place. 1365 02:41:40,760 --> 02:41:49,260 And so you feel with something like that, it would kind of make AAC's work not easier, 1366 02:41:49,800 --> 02:41:50,780 but certainly amplify. 1367 02:41:52,260 --> 02:41:52,980 Yeah, I don't look at that. 1368 02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:57,700 Because there's a lot of concerns that come to us in the community that we isn't in our jurisdiction. 1369 02:41:58,420 --> 02:41:59,020 Right, exactly. 1370 02:42:00,080 --> 02:42:05,140 And then, you know, you have, you know, the committee has a strategic plan and priorities. 1371 02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:12,160 But periodically, you know, as council members, we receive feedback from residents about accessibility issues, 1372 02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:17,560 whether it's related to public transportation or sidewalk maintenance or snow removal, et cetera. 1373 02:42:19,160 --> 02:42:23,300 You know, I, you know, I typically kind of flag it for the committee, so for your awareness. 1374 02:42:23,300 --> 02:42:33,300 And when you have issues that doesn't neatly fit into some of those priority buckets, what do you advise residents like what do you like what's your advice for the best process 1375 02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:38,260 For for those kinds of feedback 1376 02:42:42,430 --> 02:42:44,310 So even as a 1377 02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:48,790 Remember the community has that accessibility concern how to address that 1378 02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:52,250 Hmm, three, one, one. 1379 02:42:52,870 --> 02:42:55,410 And I think a lot of people feel like, you know, they call 1380 02:42:55,410 --> 02:42:56,710 three, one, one, or they leave a message, 1381 02:42:56,970 --> 02:42:59,630 and it's not being responded to you. 1382 02:42:59,630 --> 02:42:59,870 Sorry. 1383 02:43:00,230 --> 02:43:00,890 We're iterating. 1384 02:43:01,430 --> 02:43:06,630 Yeah, or do you see AAC have a role in hearing those? 1385 02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:09,750 Because you have a, like, engagement committee, right? 1386 02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:14,730 Is that a place where maybe you can kind of hear some 1387 02:43:14,730 --> 02:43:16,630 of those feedback, but I'm also running out of time. 1388 02:43:16,630 --> 02:43:24,950 So, oh, yes, absolutely, you know, we represent the community and I'm like, so it's an open little policy. 1389 02:43:25,450 --> 02:43:25,650 Thank you. 1390 02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:26,550 Thank you. 1391 02:43:26,730 --> 02:43:27,850 Councillor Neck, can you take the chair, please? 1392 02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:29,310 I've got the chair. 1393 02:43:29,490 --> 02:43:30,290 Thank you. 1394 02:43:31,270 --> 02:43:37,070 I really appreciate your overview today, and I wanted to just ask a few questions about, 1395 02:43:37,070 --> 02:43:44,130 I just wrote accessible housing and how things are evolving or if they're evolving and what major gaps still exist. 1396 02:43:44,130 --> 02:43:52,990 I guess I'm reflecting on, or just over a year into having the new zoning by-law, I know there's some incentives in there around accessible properties. 1397 02:43:53,650 --> 02:44:02,410 I'm thinking about the points that can be gained for programs like, like, a hit or through CMHC lending. 1398 02:44:04,270 --> 02:44:08,070 What are you hearing or seeing in terms of the product that's out there? 1399 02:44:08,210 --> 02:44:13,710 Are we starting to see a difference in accessible homes that are being provided? 1400 02:44:13,710 --> 02:44:16,270 or even customer units that are being included in projects. 1401 02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:24,860 When we spoke with some of the city-owned facilities, we are seeing an improvement in accessibility within those. 1402 02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:28,100 But we need to go beyond that into market housing. 1403 02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:34,880 And we need to have our developers build accessible because they're building barriers into the system. 1404 02:44:35,620 --> 02:44:38,120 And we do not see any improvement in that at all. 1405 02:44:38,380 --> 02:44:40,600 And this is a big concern for all of us. 1406 02:44:40,600 --> 02:44:48,600 Yeah, absolutely. Okay, and and I was just pulling up the correspondence that you sent us. 1407 02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:54,420 Related to accessible housing and there was sort of a longer list of recommendations or suggestions. 1408 02:44:56,040 --> 02:44:59,240 Where would you suggest we really focus our efforts? 1409 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,660 This point, when it comes to moving the needle, I'm moving the dial on accessible units, accessible housing. 1410 02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:19,760 Probably, well, a big part of it is education, but more direct, it could be tax incentives for developers to build it possible. 1411 02:45:21,300 --> 02:45:29,830 I will be the most direct approach that you built. 1412 02:45:31,210 --> 02:45:38,270 Yeah, and can you elaborate on that a little bit, like that doesn't exist today, does it? 1413 02:45:39,250 --> 02:45:39,670 No. 1414 02:45:40,890 --> 02:45:44,010 Okay, but there are other jurisdictions that have explored that. 1415 02:45:44,850 --> 02:45:48,770 And it sounds like that is a model that is functioning in other jurisdictions. 1416 02:45:50,530 --> 02:45:51,110 Interesting. 1417 02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:57,730 Okay. Well, I might follow up on that, friends, just to gain a better understanding of what tools and levers we have 1418 02:45:57,730 --> 02:46:04,190 municipally, what might be a better fit, provincially, and beyond. So, thank you for that. I'll take the chair of us. 1419 02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:06,350 I'll return the chair. I'll go to Councillor Stevenson. 1420 02:46:06,910 --> 02:46:11,710 Yeah, thank you so much and really appreciate all the work that you've provided over the past 1421 02:46:11,710 --> 02:46:15,130 number of years and the great successes have happened under your leadership. 1422 02:46:15,910 --> 02:46:26,050 You know earlier today we were speaking with the design committee and you know they obviously play a very important role in ensuring urban design on private properties is inclusive. 1423 02:46:27,250 --> 02:46:32,790 Can you tell me about any relationship that you have with that committee and the work that they've done on their urban design principles? 1424 02:46:34,590 --> 02:46:45,850 We've never met with them directly, but that doesn't need to say that, I mean, like the city 1425 02:46:45,850 --> 02:46:46,450 departments, 1426 02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:50,530 I've been in charge of our community not directly. 1427 02:46:51,170 --> 02:46:55,250 Yeah, okay, that's really interesting. I don't know if there is someone from administration 1428 02:46:55,250 --> 02:47:05,450 on line who could speak to any opportunities to sort of link or have some dialogue between EDC and the 1429 02:47:05,450 --> 02:47:06,170 AAC. 1430 02:47:08,240 --> 02:47:17,640 Hi, it's Judy Smith, the Director of Community Investment, where all of our support for the advisory boards and community services are in that social developments that right now. 1431 02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:25,300 and we'll be happy to look into that link, and make sure the accessibility board gets an opportunity 1432 02:47:25,300 --> 02:47:30,500 to meet the right people. Great. That's so exciting and I think great timing just as the EDC is finishing 1433 02:47:30,500 --> 02:47:38,000 up some of their new guidance. And maybe even as we're looking into the future in terms of having 1434 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:45,520 specified people on EDC, just think about the wealth of expertise that exists in the AAC to support 1435 02:47:45,520 --> 02:47:50,280 that work. But that was it. Thank you so much. Thank you, Councillor Wright. 1436 02:47:51,300 --> 02:47:55,540 Thanks very much, Tonya. So you're stepping down as chair, but are you staying on the committee? 1437 02:47:56,140 --> 02:48:03,680 Yes, I have one more year. Okay, okay. So we won't be losing that knowledge and everything. 1438 02:48:04,500 --> 02:48:13,360 So thank you very much. And I'm just wondering, with the change from advisory, sorry, from an advocacy role to more of an advisory role. 1439 02:48:13,360 --> 02:48:18,420 How have you managed that change in any tips for any other committees? 1440 02:48:22,640 --> 02:48:29,500 I don't think it was really so much a matter of managing that change because that's sort 1441 02:48:29,500 --> 02:48:44,580 of what we've been trying to do or the whole time that I've been on the committee which is 1442 02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:52,460 the accessibility. Okay so this so there I mean I think even even sort of acting as an advocate 1443 02:48:52,460 --> 02:48:59,500 as well you were still doing that advisory role to counsel it all along right? Yeah and I do have 1444 02:48:59,500 --> 02:49:06,120 to say our committee right now is fantastic. We have really robust really excellent conversations 1445 02:49:06,120 --> 02:49:12,180 and meetings and they really provide a whole lot of insight and guidance. That probably 1446 02:49:12,180 --> 02:49:18,120 goes to somebody's leadership of that committee too. Okay. Thank you very much. 1447 02:49:18,640 --> 02:49:25,040 Great. Thank you so much. So if there's no further questions, is there anyone who would like to speak to this item? 1448 02:49:31,080 --> 02:49:33,460 Uh, we'll go to, oh, Councillor Nakh, go ahead. 1449 02:49:33,780 --> 02:49:40,120 Yeah, sorry. I think just I wanted to briefly, I always great work from all of our Board's agencies. 1450 02:49:40,140 --> 02:49:43,640 Of course, I didn't have questions on a lot of them, but in particular, John, you just wanted to. 1451 02:49:43,640 --> 02:49:48,300 And I know this is probably like less formal, but I just say thank you, you've been doing 1452 02:49:48,300 --> 02:49:52,320 incredible work over AAC for such a long time. 1453 02:49:52,460 --> 02:49:55,160 So glad that you're there still for another year. 1454 02:49:55,360 --> 02:50:00,200 Since this is like, you know, my farewell to her, I wanted to just say thank you and say really 1455 02:50:00,200 --> 02:50:04,660 appreciate all of your work, all of the advocacy and we've seen such a dramatic shift in 1456 02:50:04,660 --> 02:50:05,560 the city. 1457 02:50:06,260 --> 02:50:10,680 And that's a direct result of the work you've done and the many others who are on that 1458 02:50:10,680 --> 02:50:12,180 committee each and every day. 1459 02:50:12,180 --> 02:50:21,060 So, just my appreciation for all that you've done over the years and glad to know you'll be there for a year longer, but even when that ends, I know you'll be greatly missed. 1460 02:50:21,220 --> 02:50:23,100 So, thank you. 1461 02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:24,160 Thank you. 1462 02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:28,320 And the most rewarding, repasional experience, I'm going to like, 1463 02:50:30,820 --> 02:50:31,660 Councillor Tang. 1464 02:50:33,460 --> 02:50:41,580 Well, I don't know if I'd much to add to that, but you know, when I echo my gratitude, you know, 1465 02:50:41,580 --> 02:50:49,080 when I sent on to for the AAC committee, I didn't know what to expect, but certainly I've learned 1466 02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:55,680 so much from every single committee members and every year, you know, with new members being 1467 02:50:55,680 --> 02:51:02,540 added, I find, you know, the conversation as Tanya has said very rich, opening up new perspective 1468 02:51:02,540 --> 02:51:07,920 for me and, you know, every day I'm thinking about, you know, accessibility all around me, 1469 02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:09,800 sometimes in ways I didn't expect. 1470 02:51:11,440 --> 02:51:13,580 You know, I think that goes to show the leadership 1471 02:51:13,580 --> 02:51:16,940 of, you know, Tanya's a chair as a long-sandy member, 1472 02:51:17,180 --> 02:51:21,220 but also too many to all the members there, 1473 02:51:22,200 --> 02:51:25,180 and the expertise they bring through their lived experience. 1474 02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:28,460 You know, I know you have, you've expressed a little bit 1475 02:51:28,460 --> 02:51:31,200 of the concern with the administrative support 1476 02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:32,360 in your letter. 1477 02:51:32,860 --> 02:51:36,460 You know, I know the transitions just happening 1478 02:51:36,460 --> 02:51:42,520 And no, certainly I'm very committed to kind of see how we can make that transition as smooth as possible. 1479 02:51:44,040 --> 02:51:55,300 And always welcome feedback from the chair, the next chair, you know, and committee members about how I can play a better role in supporting all of you in your work. 1480 02:51:55,520 --> 02:51:59,840 So thank you for being here and for your presentation. I look forward to seeing you tonight. 1481 02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:00,040 Thanks. 1482 02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:01,180 Thanks. 1483 02:52:01,540 --> 02:52:02,100 Thank you. 1484 02:52:02,440 --> 02:52:02,620 Thank you. 1485 02:52:03,620 --> 02:52:04,300 Please vote. 1486 02:52:10,920 --> 02:52:11,500 Now, it's your principal. 1487 02:52:11,840 --> 02:52:11,860 Yes. 1488 02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:13,560 Thank you, principal. 1489 02:52:14,680 --> 02:52:15,860 We have all the votes. 1490 02:52:16,120 --> 02:52:16,880 Just play the vote. 1491 02:52:20,820 --> 02:52:21,280 That's carried. 1492 02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:22,020 Excellent. 1493 02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:26,300 Well, thank you so much for the discussion and Tonya, you know, echoing echoing the 1494 02:52:26,300 --> 02:52:29,280 thanks and gratitude from my colleagues around the table for your years of dedication. 1495 02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:37,120 Service, and everyone on the Accessibility Advisory Committee for helping build a city that's good for all of us. Thank you. 1496 02:52:38,700 --> 02:52:57,310 All right. So, moving, moving along to our next committee. It's the Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee. And we have both co-chairs, I believe, with us. We have Melanie Hoffman and Jacob Comar, who are both online. 1497 02:52:58,790 --> 02:53:01,590 Jacob and Melanie are you there? 1498 02:53:02,190 --> 02:53:03,030 Yes, fellow councillors. 1499 02:53:03,890 --> 02:53:04,090 Excellent. 1500 02:53:05,070 --> 02:53:06,290 Well, thank you both for joining us today. 1501 02:53:06,370 --> 02:53:07,810 Nice to see you. 1502 02:53:08,750 --> 02:53:12,810 We'll give you some time to do a bit of an overview and share some words 1503 02:53:12,810 --> 02:53:14,970 and then we'll go into some questions from colleagues. 1504 02:53:15,890 --> 02:53:17,110 So, take it away. 1505 02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:19,540 Fantastic. 1506 02:53:19,800 --> 02:53:21,980 Thank you so much for being here. 1507 02:53:22,920 --> 02:53:25,100 Hopefully my daughter recognizes that I'm in a meeting. 1508 02:53:25,280 --> 02:53:26,780 I was not expecting her home right now. 1509 02:53:28,260 --> 02:53:30,820 I'm presenting to Council, do you need anything? 1510 02:53:32,120 --> 02:53:35,160 Okay. I'm sorry. She is on her way to karate. 1511 02:53:36,740 --> 02:53:42,220 All right, so we are really grateful to Council 1512 02:53:42,220 --> 02:53:46,080 that you have the Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee 1513 02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:50,340 of an Advisory Committee to Council and Administration. 1514 02:53:51,220 --> 02:53:54,580 It's been another really good year of collaboration 1515 02:53:54,580 --> 02:54:03,480 and learning together as we have been living through once again another hottest year on record, 1516 02:54:04,380 --> 02:54:10,640 which for us locally of course really culminated with the wildfires which in Jasper in the summer 1517 02:54:10,640 --> 02:54:18,890 and at Benton being home to many families as they were evacuated here. We know that that is not 1518 02:54:18,890 --> 02:54:27,630 a situation that is going to improve in the next decades but the work that you are doing 1519 02:54:27,630 --> 02:54:36,130 and that the city is leading is going to help with our support continue to do as much as it 1520 02:54:36,130 --> 02:54:43,690 can so that in her lifetime things get better. Oh, Julia, no, I need to be alone. 1521 02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:48,140 And so we're continuing 1522 02:54:48,140 --> 02:54:55,740 to see really strong action with City Council taking steps forward on substantial completion 1523 02:54:55,740 --> 02:55:06,100 and priority growth areas, noting pushback that may be happening at other orders of government. 1524 02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:14,160 We are really excited about the zoning by-law that you passed last year and the success that 1525 02:55:14,160 --> 02:55:21,460 housing starts and increase in fill are giving in order to continue to lower our emissions 1526 02:55:21,460 --> 02:55:22,220 overall. 1527 02:55:23,180 --> 02:55:31,420 It is really important for you to continue the leadership that you are providing and where 1528 02:55:31,420 --> 02:55:38,320 really excited for what administration is working on and continuing to bring forward. 1529 02:55:38,320 --> 02:55:48,340 and so in 2024, we provided for our memos to council and spoke at six committee meetings. 1530 02:55:48,360 --> 02:55:57,460 We've got the list of details in our report, but of course really important for us in that context 1531 02:55:57,460 --> 02:56:07,680 was taking a clear position on city investments in hydrogen and the realities of the science 1532 02:56:07,680 --> 02:56:15,900 of science and engineering of hydrogen being able to engage in disciplines and substantial 1533 02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:21,600 completion and the same importance of limiting growth, of course, both for affordability, 1534 02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:25,880 livability of communities and also for our mission schools. 1535 02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:33,530 We are glad to continue to be 1536 02:56:33,530 --> 02:56:38,890 able to support culture change and have had some good meetings with the climate task force, 1537 02:56:38,890 --> 02:56:46,850 continue to have really strong collaboration with our like to say our team at the team that 1538 02:56:46,850 --> 02:56:55,630 supports us on administration's side. And we also had an opportunity to meet with the city manager 1539 02:56:55,630 --> 02:57:03,630 and the interim city manager at the time, the deputy city manager to communicate about our 1540 02:57:03,630 --> 02:57:13,330 hopes then priorities. This is something that we really want to see more of yet. I think for us, 1541 02:57:13,330 --> 02:57:19,430 you know, one place where that really became clear again, recently was in the 12-0 vote to 1542 02:57:19,430 --> 02:57:27,330 approve the Nordic spa that the culture change across Council and Administration is not where we would 1543 02:57:27,330 --> 02:57:36,730 to see it from my perspective for all the Edmonton businesses that are engaged in the 1544 02:57:36,730 --> 02:57:41,470 corporate climate leaders, program, and or working hard and investing to bring down their 1545 02:57:41,470 --> 02:57:47,930 emissions to approve without further requirements, a project that's going to have incredible 1546 02:57:47,930 --> 02:57:54,450 emissions intensity per square foot as much as I love myself with it's on it, is very troubling. 1547 02:57:56,070 --> 02:58:01,710 And so looking forward to continue to do that work, and would really like to see a chief 1548 02:58:01,710 --> 02:58:09,830 climate officer hired as was announced some years ago now, to continue to lead that culture 1549 02:58:09,830 --> 02:58:18,810 change and support a true emergency response as we find ourselves in a marathon in that context. 1550 02:58:19,690 --> 02:58:26,270 We are really happy to continue to hear presentations from administration in our regular meetings. 1551 02:58:26,410 --> 02:58:34,870 Next one is coming up on Thursday and so really seeing good discussion there on input on how the 1552 02:58:34,870 --> 02:58:41,530 climate resilience planning and development framework is being developed and other ways in which 1553 02:58:41,530 --> 02:58:47,250 our resilience strategy and our energy transition strategy are being brought forward. 1554 02:58:48,770 --> 02:59:01,150 So with that, we are very much looking forward to your questions and any conversations that 1555 02:59:01,150 --> 02:59:11,390 we can have today where, yeah, just want to say, a big thank you for the support we have 1556 02:59:11,390 --> 02:59:20,990 from staff, in particular, of course, from our liaison Heather, very helpful and doing this 1557 02:59:20,990 --> 02:59:29,770 work as a volunteer, and we are looking forward to continuing to contribute so that every 1558 02:59:29,770 --> 02:59:41,370 decision is a climate decision and is taking care of our health and well-being in that 1559 02:59:41,370 --> 02:59:47,170 With that, I will see if Jacob has anything that he wants to add before we hand it over. 1560 02:59:48,850 --> 02:59:57,370 Maybe just that this year, we already set one memo and we're looking forward to further discussion. 1561 02:59:57,650 --> 02:59:59,790 If you have any questions, or again, you've been on that. 1562 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,940 To see what happens on the energy utilities, and we also preparing another big memo, the theme of our 1563 03:00:08,940 --> 03:00:14,520 memos is trying to be big climate action without any costs or very minimal costs from the city, 1564 03:00:14,760 --> 03:00:18,960 because I realize that these are pastime. So, that's it. 1565 03:00:19,940 --> 03:00:25,240 Thank you both. I really appreciate you being with us, so we'll turn to colleagues for questions. 1566 03:00:25,600 --> 03:00:29,580 I'll go to Councilor Jan, if you're keen to put the motion forward. 1567 03:00:29,580 --> 03:00:30,680 So moved. 1568 03:00:33,080 --> 03:00:33,480 Second. 1569 03:00:34,540 --> 03:00:34,800 Great. 1570 03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:36,780 Thank you for that. 1571 03:00:36,980 --> 03:00:37,780 And do you have questions as well? 1572 03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:38,560 I do. 1573 03:00:38,700 --> 03:00:38,900 Go ahead. 1574 03:00:40,360 --> 03:00:40,380 Yeah. 1575 03:00:40,700 --> 03:00:41,280 Thank you both. 1576 03:00:42,820 --> 03:00:45,720 It's an incredible learning opportunity to work with both of you. 1577 03:00:45,980 --> 03:00:52,540 I wanted to ask you to kind of share maybe if you, it's not a fair question to the committee, but maybe both could speak personally as coach. 1578 03:00:52,540 --> 03:01:02,800 but you're kind of being asked to take on this enormous job of providing feedback to the 1579 03:01:02,800 --> 03:01:09,140 fifth-largest city in Canada on the on this massive existential threat to the human life around 1580 03:01:09,140 --> 03:01:16,180 the planet and you're being told to have, you know, a meeting a month and provide provides some 1581 03:01:16,180 --> 03:01:22,520 feedback and maybe come and speak and share notes and stuff. And I wanted to unpack for 1582 03:01:22,520 --> 03:01:27,980 kind of like, is this a fair ask to put on an ordinary human being kind of to say, you know, 1583 03:01:28,260 --> 03:01:35,800 here is the enormous emergency that we've declared and we don't take that word emergency 1584 03:01:35,800 --> 03:01:42,100 lightly, but then, you know, as you highlight, there's still the machinations of life that 1585 03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:49,360 continue and how do you kind of hold that tension and how do you either balance community members 1586 03:01:49,360 --> 03:01:57,380 and committee members who just get frustrated and burn out or turn off within still running 1587 03:01:58,040 --> 03:02:04,960 a functional committee and how do we how do we pay ourselves in like what's what's 1588 03:02:04,960 --> 03:02:06,580 are are we being fair to you. 1589 03:02:11,660 --> 03:02:13,880 Thanks for that question, Councillor Jens. 1590 03:02:14,220 --> 03:02:23,980 I think from my perspective, being able to have this opportunity to more deeply understand 1591 03:02:23,980 --> 03:02:53,340 understand how decisions are made at the municipal level, what decisions are made at the municipal level and being able to provide feedback in a context where there's a possibility that your feedback is taken seriously on that face value is something that feels incredibly worthy of my time and energy because 1592 03:02:53,340 --> 03:03:00,360 I am going to be continuing to be aware of the progression of the climate and ecological 1593 03:03:00,360 --> 03:03:04,160 emergency globally, whether I do this work or not. 1594 03:03:04,700 --> 03:03:11,600 So I might as well be engaged in this conversation as long as it is a conversation that 1595 03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:22,980 feels like it is leading to some version of the transformative change that I believe most 1596 03:03:22,980 --> 03:03:33,480 not all of us understand. We need. And so I look for those opportunities for impactful engagement 1597 03:03:33,480 --> 03:03:44,810 and this has felt more often than not like it is one. Although every now and again things happen 1598 03:03:44,810 --> 03:03:50,470 that make you question whether this is where you should be investing your time. So I really appreciate 1599 03:03:50,470 --> 03:03:57,170 each and every one of the individuals working in administration and working on council 1600 03:03:57,170 --> 03:04:07,630 who are contributing to the public's ability to move forward together on this transition. 1601 03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:14,060 Jacob, do you want to take a crack of that or? 1602 03:04:14,060 --> 03:04:25,100 I mean, that was a big question, Councillor Jans, I think I could spend an hour talking about 1603 03:04:25,100 --> 03:04:31,100 this question. I think we definitely see it in some committee members feeling hopeless 1604 03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:39,040 and burnt out feeling like some of the things we're doing, don't matter or aren't having 1605 03:04:39,040 --> 03:04:44,940 an impact, which at the same time is it fair to you? I think this council has done more than 1606 03:04:44,940 --> 03:04:51,280 any other council, let alone any other council and probably Canada to advance some of this work 1607 03:04:51,280 --> 03:04:58,620 and yet your hands are tied because these decisions need to be discussed at a global and 1608 03:04:59,680 --> 03:05:04,880 provincial and at a federal level and they just aren't. The system is not set up for that. 1609 03:05:06,200 --> 03:05:12,060 So without going down to rabbit hole, I think for me, it's some of the most rewarding work 1610 03:05:12,060 --> 03:05:19,560 and also frustrating work because I realize the limits that are imposed on us and yourselves 1611 03:05:20,180 --> 03:05:25,740 are doing this work in the fact that even if you were to go faster and harder like we say, 1612 03:05:25,980 --> 03:05:31,880 you're going to hit roadblocks with public discourse and everything else. So I'll leave it at that. 1613 03:05:32,320 --> 03:05:36,200 But now, thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you for how that you do. 1614 03:05:37,620 --> 03:05:41,740 Thank you. Councilor Nack, can you take the chair, please? I've got the chair. Thank you. 1615 03:05:43,120 --> 03:05:49,180 Yeah, I, I just wanted to get a little bit of additional clarity around the establishment 1616 03:05:49,180 --> 03:05:56,360 of the additional subcommittee, and maybe just if you could, could explain, or what's 1617 03:05:56,360 --> 03:06:00,780 happening now and how this might help things function a little bit better. 1618 03:06:03,960 --> 03:06:04,360 Yeah, absolutely. 1619 03:06:04,520 --> 03:06:05,800 Thank you so much, Consolas Salvador. 1620 03:06:06,680 --> 03:06:12,860 So, what we're finding is, and I guess actually, Consolar, Jan's question kind of gets 1621 03:06:12,860 --> 03:06:21,940 at that too. We meet every couple or three months for a few hours on an emergency. 1622 03:06:24,060 --> 03:06:24,900 And we spend 1623 03:06:24,900 --> 03:06:33,880 most of that time discussing some updates and reports from Council, sorry not from from administration, 1624 03:06:34,640 --> 03:06:41,040 which is of course the majority of what we want to be able to engage with. However, what that often 1625 03:06:41,040 --> 03:06:53,320 means is that we cannot be easily responsive to emergent items as well as that structure 1626 03:06:53,320 --> 03:06:58,860 really limiting our ability to allow the 1627 03:07:01,000 --> 03:07:04,580 knowledge and experience in the committee to 1628 03:07:04,580 --> 03:07:18,580 merge and do the work that we see as our opportunity to contribute to the city's efforts and so those are some of the things that 1629 03:07:18,580 --> 03:07:21,180 So community really helps us be able to advance. 1630 03:07:22,680 --> 03:07:23,840 OK, that's helpful. 1631 03:07:25,800 --> 03:07:29,960 And I guess just on that note, thinking about... 1632 03:07:31,490 --> 03:07:37,670 I was reading the description here at talks about the subcommittee. We'll be able to focus on matters that require more quick actions and response. 1633 03:07:40,730 --> 03:07:48,050 How do you plan on prioritizing within the long list of priorities? Would those emergent items or the ones that require quick actions? 1634 03:07:48,190 --> 03:07:50,930 They would still be aligned to the overall priorities of the committee, correct? 1635 03:07:52,330 --> 03:07:57,410 Yes, absolutely. Okay. Amazing. Cool. Well, that's really helpful. I will take the chair back. 1636 03:07:57,410 --> 03:07:59,310 I'll return the chair. 1637 03:08:00,390 --> 03:08:01,290 Any other questions? 1638 03:08:05,510 --> 03:08:06,230 Councillor Francis? 1639 03:08:06,630 --> 03:08:06,930 No way. 1640 03:08:08,850 --> 03:08:10,770 But Councillor Rayty have a question? 1641 03:08:13,280 --> 03:08:13,860 Go ahead. 1642 03:08:16,970 --> 03:08:17,270 Okay. 1643 03:08:17,490 --> 03:08:18,290 I'm on the board now. 1644 03:08:20,590 --> 03:08:23,250 You mentioned the Chief Climate Officer. 1645 03:08:23,810 --> 03:08:24,890 Why is that important? 1646 03:08:26,590 --> 03:08:28,050 Because I've been waiting for it too. 1647 03:08:30,430 --> 03:08:31,730 Thank you, Councillor Ray. 1648 03:08:32,410 --> 03:08:34,670 We've had some interesting discussions about this 1649 03:08:34,670 --> 03:09:04,650 Because in some ways, there's maybe the thought that hanging climate on one position is not setting the city up for success because what we need is the climate lens to be present for everyone, but who is that individual, who has the capacity, the knowledge to support an organization as a large as the city of Edmonton, to be able to center. 1650 03:09:04,670 --> 03:09:11,410 climate lens in all decisions and everything that's happening to help everyone be able to understand 1651 03:09:11,410 --> 03:09:16,850 how their job is the climate job and how the work that they do have the potential to be 1652 03:09:16,850 --> 03:09:22,390 transformational towards the future city that we're all wanting to build together. 1653 03:09:23,330 --> 03:09:34,570 And so having one person whose primary responsibility is that work is the big, the big benefit 1654 03:09:34,570 --> 03:09:49,390 that we see there. You know, it's really, really foundational that our city manager has a strong mandate and that our city manager is able to support all of that through his position. 1655 03:09:50,230 --> 03:10:00,270 But to not put all of that on the shoulders of people who already have many other things that are going to be their priorities. 1656 03:10:00,270 --> 03:10:06,450 It's this difficulty of leaving a topic in my that's I mean accessibility is directly relates to all of us too 1657 03:10:06,450 --> 03:10:13,690 So I'm thinking back to our previous community that yeah having having a designated person when we have a declared climate emergency 1658 03:10:13,690 --> 03:10:24,570 And we do not have clarity of like when we're not going to have a declared climate emergency anymore and how the administration overall is is really thoroughly responding to that 1659 03:10:24,570 --> 03:10:28,590 That's why we're excited about that position from my perspective. Maybe Jake 1660 03:10:28,590 --> 03:10:39,750 So it's more someone to sort of lead the charge across the organization, not just putting an environmental lens on a report that we receive. 1661 03:10:40,450 --> 03:10:43,970 It's about having a climate voice at the executive leadership table. 1662 03:10:44,610 --> 03:10:44,630 Okay. 1663 03:10:46,610 --> 03:10:47,310 Okay, thank you. 1664 03:10:47,550 --> 03:10:48,610 That answers my question. 1665 03:10:49,010 --> 03:10:49,170 Great. 1666 03:10:49,270 --> 03:10:49,990 Thank you. 1667 03:10:50,250 --> 03:10:51,930 Continue to advocate. 1668 03:10:54,130 --> 03:10:54,370 Excellent. 1669 03:10:55,050 --> 03:10:56,850 So I'm not seeing any further questions on the board. 1670 03:10:56,970 --> 03:10:59,150 Is there anyone who would like to speak to this? 1671 03:11:01,870 --> 03:11:14,590 Councillor Hamilton, I appreciate the report today, I just want to click on, because I 1672 03:11:16,170 --> 03:11:23,330 flagged in my notes that ETCRC has been highly critical of Council's decisions, 1673 03:11:25,350 --> 03:11:26,110 and I 1674 03:11:26,110 --> 03:11:33,210 don't think it is helpful for us, not from a climate lens, but I appreciate so much of this 1675 03:11:33,210 --> 03:11:37,810 discussion today from your perspective or from the perspective of the board has been 1676 03:11:37,810 --> 03:11:45,910 about understanding where council ends up in terms of our, our, our how our decisions are being made, 1677 03:11:46,530 --> 03:11:54,870 but I, I just want to flag that it is making the work you're trying to do really hard to defend 1678 03:11:54,870 --> 03:12:02,510 And I don't think that's your intention, but that is nonetheless the consequence of it. 1679 03:12:03,490 --> 03:12:07,970 And I appreciate that Council declared an emergency, which I supported. 1680 03:12:08,670 --> 03:12:15,530 I appreciate that Council has made this a high priority, which I also supported. 1681 03:12:15,530 --> 03:12:45,510 But I calling out both counseling administration is not having absorbed or not being champions of climate change as I think not fair to our city staff, including the planning department who worked really hard to incorporate that and also not fair to this council, which I agree with you, Jay Cupsa, is the 1682 03:12:45,510 --> 03:12:54,970 It is a council that is put a lot of its political capital on the line and if I'm being honest 1683 03:12:54,970 --> 03:13:00,090 about where polling is, this council has worn it more than any other council and makes 1684 03:13:01,310 --> 03:13:05,110 it incredibly, it puts council in a really precarious position. 1685 03:13:06,530 --> 03:13:11,630 As you know, when it comes to planning decisions, there's a myriad of things that this council 1686 03:13:11,630 --> 03:13:20,450 take into account, but it's also quasi-judicial process and I recognize that we'll never be able 1687 03:13:20,450 --> 03:13:28,210 to do enough to satisfy what needs to be done on climate and municipal level, but I'm somewhat 1688 03:13:28,210 --> 03:13:37,890 personally offended that this council and so many of the champions around this table don't get 1689 03:13:38,810 --> 03:13:50,270 like a lot of people have really gone to that on this file and it's really hard to carry 1690 03:13:50,270 --> 03:13:56,070 on that work if the people who are supposed to be helping you are backbiting you in 1691 03:13:56,070 --> 03:14:00,870 that process. So that's all I have to say about that. Thank you. 1692 03:14:03,880 --> 03:14:05,400 Thank you. Councillor 1693 03:14:07,660 --> 03:14:13,560 I want to thank the committee members, again, it's a fantastic opportunity and I really appreciate their contributions. 1694 03:14:15,380 --> 03:14:32,300 The term moral injury comes to mind that, you know, you're asking people to be a part of such an enormous task and such complex work in an area that's increasingly frustrating and limiting in terms of even with the best policy advice and decisions at the local level. 1695 03:14:32,300 --> 03:14:39,400 we can still be subject to override from a provincial government and federal government and 1696 03:14:39,400 --> 03:14:43,380 you know other international bodies based on consequences around the world, etc. 1697 03:14:44,440 --> 03:14:50,620 So that being said, I think I found the work in particular some of the work around substantial 1698 03:14:50,620 --> 03:14:55,400 completion or the tree by all of these questions that I myself wouldn't necessarily have 1699 03:14:55,400 --> 03:14:59,680 the time to research and answer, having these thoughtful conversations with the committee. 1700 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:22,980 I think of the wild fire preparedness conversation we had where experts came in and engaged with the committee and our fire department got to have this opportunity to have a, you know, a friend conversation with, with your leadership and I think that was, I think that was much appreciated. So again, I just want to thank all of you for your time and I look forward to continuing to work with you. 1701 03:15:22,980 --> 03:15:26,660 Thank you. Please vote. 1702 03:15:33,470 --> 03:15:34,330 Thank you, Councilor Jans. 1703 03:15:46,510 --> 03:15:47,730 Just need your vote, Councilor Salvador. 1704 03:15:50,340 --> 03:15:53,620 I'm at yes. Thank you. We have all the votes to display the vote. 1705 03:15:58,430 --> 03:16:01,010 That is carried. Thank you. 1706 03:16:02,470 --> 03:16:07,210 And thank you to Jacob and Melanie for being with us today and for really ongoing work at the committee, 1707 03:16:07,490 --> 03:16:13,270 which is, as we heard, incredibly difficult and challenging, but deeply appreciate your dedication. 1708 03:16:19,700 --> 03:16:32,880 Alright, so we're moving on to our next committee, which is actually going to be after the dinner break, but I think we're, we have Emily Badie Online. 1709 03:16:33,180 --> 03:16:39,600 That's how it's ready to go, yes. Amazing. Amazing. Okay, so the Edmonton Transit Service Advisory Board is up next. Hi, Emily. 1710 03:16:40,740 --> 03:16:46,100 Hello. How are you doing? Good, thank you. Good, good. Well, happy to have you with us today. 1711 03:16:46,900 --> 03:16:53,400 We will take some time to hear from you. I see you have a presentation as well, and then we'll follow that up with some questions from committee members. 1712 03:16:54,040 --> 03:16:59,640 Please go ahead. First, right council members. Keep, we're at council. Please go ahead. 1713 03:17:00,680 --> 03:17:08,320 All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for having me. My name is Emily Baddy. I'm the chair of the Edmisture Transit Service Advisory Board. 1714 03:17:10,820 --> 03:17:15,820 I'd like to start by acknowledging my fellow board members, our ETS, the AISON, and administrative 1715 03:17:15,820 --> 03:17:20,140 support, and Councillor Rutherford, all of whom are instrumental in our work and help 1716 03:17:20,140 --> 03:17:21,040 keep our board running. 1717 03:17:22,880 --> 03:17:27,820 Our mandate at ETSA is to provide advice to Council for a stakeholder perspective on issues 1718 03:17:27,820 --> 03:17:32,380 relating to transit, including ridership, mix of vehicles, relationships between city projects 1719 03:17:32,380 --> 03:17:33,160 and transit. 1720 03:17:33,160 --> 03:17:39,260 You're being initiatives of other levels of government or surrounding municipalities that could affect transit. 1721 03:17:40,320 --> 03:17:44,180 Repair maintenance accessibility issues, servicing issues and transit policies. 1722 03:17:45,840 --> 03:17:46,600 Next slide, please. 1723 03:17:50,230 --> 03:17:55,030 In 2024, we identified three broad goals to guide our work. 1724 03:17:55,590 --> 03:18:00,430 First, we wanted to apply timely follow-up on key transit issues scheduled to be presented to council. 1725 03:18:01,390 --> 03:18:07,010 In order to effectively leave the school, we established and refined our processes around identifying 1726 03:18:07,010 --> 03:18:10,990 which issues we wanted to provide feedback on, so at every board meeting, we review what 1727 03:18:10,990 --> 03:18:16,470 transit related reports will be coming to council in the next few months to determine what 1728 03:18:16,470 --> 03:18:21,710 requires the response from that'sab. We call this our rapid response process, so we assign 1729 03:18:21,710 --> 03:18:27,070 a board member to help collect and compile the feedback and put it into a form that we can 1730 03:18:27,070 --> 03:18:31,930 provide to council. So some of the topics that we've provided feedback on for the last year are 1731 03:18:31,930 --> 03:18:37,810 the public spaces by law, the bus network service plan and transit needs to meet population growth. 1732 03:18:39,410 --> 03:18:43,250 Some of the challenges that we faced around the school were its own consistency and clarity 1733 03:18:44,370 --> 03:18:50,390 in collecting the feedback and just improving our transparency around submissions like the format 1734 03:18:50,390 --> 03:18:56,210 of the submission, who actually makes the submission and those types of details. So this is going 1735 03:18:56,210 --> 03:18:58,470 into our goals for the upcoming year. 1736 03:19:00,550 --> 03:19:02,990 Our second goal was we wanted to complete reports 1737 03:19:02,990 --> 03:19:08,470 developed by our subcommittees to proactively provide information to council about transit issues. 1738 03:19:09,450 --> 03:19:13,050 This year we worked on our report related to the perception of safety on the LRT, 1739 03:19:13,410 --> 03:19:18,370 which was recently presented to the urban planning committee and a letter to council regarding 1740 03:19:18,370 --> 03:19:23,390 fair evasion, which was in relation to the sessions around the fair gates of LRT stations. 1741 03:19:26,050 --> 03:19:38,330 In previous years, we've done more reports and had more subcommittees, but this year was a little challenging in sort of developing our processes around administrative support and ensuring that subcommittees could be live-screened in public. 1742 03:19:39,010 --> 03:19:45,830 But those challenges are largely resolved, so we'll to really focus on these proactive subcommittees and reports in the upcoming year. 1743 03:19:47,890 --> 03:19:53,850 Third, our board strive to maintain and improve collaborative relationships with the boards and agencies. 1744 03:19:54,650 --> 03:19:58,770 So this year we nominated a new liaison to work with the Accessibility Advisor committee. 1745 03:19:59,630 --> 03:20:03,750 Because transit issues and accessibility issues can often be closely related or intertwined. 1746 03:20:05,870 --> 03:20:06,890 Next slide please. 1747 03:20:11,520 --> 03:20:17,200 So on the activities we completed in 2024, we had our monthly board meetings and received presentations on 1748 03:20:17,200 --> 03:20:22,500 I'm trying to measure implementation plan, the bus network plan, 1749 03:20:22,760 --> 03:20:25,860 rezoning of priority growth areas, mass transit implementation, 1750 03:20:26,820 --> 03:20:30,620 the LRT seeding options and features, infrastructure and 1751 03:20:30,620 --> 03:20:33,540 enhancements for transit facilities, and the ride transit 1752 03:20:33,540 --> 03:20:35,240 funding gap. 1753 03:20:36,300 --> 03:20:38,360 We provided feedback on a variety of subjects, 1754 03:20:39,400 --> 03:20:41,280 and many of which I covered in the previous slide. 1755 03:20:43,570 --> 03:20:44,450 Next slide, please. 1756 03:20:48,420 --> 03:20:55,200 Looking forward to the 2025-2026 year, our goals are quite similar to what we had last year. 1757 03:20:55,720 --> 03:21:00,240 So first, we want to complete and present reports to Council related to work conducted by our subcommittees. 1758 03:21:00,900 --> 03:21:09,320 This is really our main priority since this is our chance to be proactive and provide information about transit issues that are important to us at SM and to add mental needs. 1759 03:21:09,860 --> 03:21:13,820 And really focus on that stakeholder perspective of transit issues. 1760 03:21:14,980 --> 03:21:19,520 Second, we want to continue to provide timely advice on transit related issues coming to council. 1761 03:21:20,480 --> 03:21:23,540 This is a more reactive school, but it is fully important. 1762 03:21:25,060 --> 03:21:28,840 And third, we'd like to improve our board processes and address some of the challenges 1763 03:21:28,840 --> 03:21:30,840 had over the last year. 1764 03:21:32,060 --> 03:21:36,260 This is really just our chance to be self-reflective to continue to improve. 1765 03:21:37,140 --> 03:21:42,260 And the specific areas that we'd like to refine our processes going forward are around new member orientation 1766 03:21:42,260 --> 03:21:47,760 and submission of feedback, such as creating templates or ensuring up-to-date contact lists. 1767 03:21:50,400 --> 03:21:50,860 Next slide, 1768 03:21:55,540 --> 03:21:59,200 oops, sorry, one back to the 2025 subcommittees. 1769 03:22:04,620 --> 03:22:08,400 So for 2025, 2026, we're proposing four subcommittees. 1770 03:22:09,060 --> 03:22:12,760 We have administrative support to contact two concurrent subcommittees. 1771 03:22:13,280 --> 03:22:18,760 So we would begin work on the first two topics immediately and then start up those other topics once we finish those first two. 1772 03:22:18,760 --> 03:22:21,520 So just an information on how we selected these topics. 1773 03:22:22,160 --> 03:22:28,120 It recently held our annual retreat to brainstorm, develop ideas, and discuss upcoming and ongoing transit issues. 1774 03:22:28,940 --> 03:22:29,980 Based on our brainstorming results. 1775 03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:36,100 We did a prioritization exercise to categorize the impact and the amount of work involved with each idea. 1776 03:22:36,780 --> 03:22:39,160 And then from that we selected the ideas that we would be. 1777 03:22:39,220 --> 03:22:44,780 But we believed would be high impact topics and selected topics that would be reasonable for the amount of work load. 1778 03:22:46,080 --> 03:22:49,620 So the first two topics we're proposing are sort of a higher workload. 1779 03:22:50,120 --> 03:22:52,440 So we're prioritizing those to start first. 1780 03:22:52,900 --> 03:22:56,300 And then as we get through those we can start on those lower effort topics. 1781 03:22:57,930 --> 03:23:05,970 So the topics we are proposing for our subcommittees are the fair funding gap, so outlining 1782 03:23:05,970 --> 03:23:12,130 at SABS position on the discrepancy between target and actual revenue to cost ratio of transit service. 1783 03:23:13,210 --> 03:23:16,170 Secondly, an art card review of the user experience. 1784 03:23:17,070 --> 03:23:22,230 So identifying misconceptions, shortcomings, opportunities related to the user experience of the art card. 1785 03:23:23,530 --> 03:23:31,310 Our third topic, mapping and navigation at bus stops, so providing options for improving visual appeal and 1786 03:23:31,310 --> 03:23:40,410 we finding at bus stops and forth reviewing pet friendly transit, so looking at best practices around how we can 1787 03:23:40,410 --> 03:23:46,250 create pet friendly transit while respecting the needs of all the transit users. 1788 03:23:48,740 --> 03:23:52,420 You can go to the next slide, and thank you, and I'm happy to answer questions. 1789 03:23:53,360 --> 03:23:55,420 Thank you so much for the presentation. 1790 03:23:56,600 --> 03:23:58,620 We'll now go to questions from Councillors. 1791 03:23:59,020 --> 03:24:00,420 Councillor Beatherford, go ahead. 1792 03:24:01,560 --> 03:24:04,420 Yeah, and I'll start by putting the motion on the floor. 1793 03:24:05,000 --> 03:24:07,540 The Edmonton Transit Service Advisory Board request 1794 03:24:07,540 --> 03:24:10,940 to establish for some committees for the 2025 Work Plan 1795 03:24:10,940 --> 03:24:14,660 as outlined in Attachment 3 of the City Clerk Report. 1796 03:24:14,820 --> 03:24:15,860 Be approved. 1797 03:24:16,920 --> 03:24:17,080 Second. 1798 03:24:17,080 --> 03:24:20,420 Okay, that was moved by Councilor Rutherford, 1799 03:24:20,560 --> 03:24:22,980 second by Councilor Ketang, go ahead with questions? 1800 03:24:23,740 --> 03:24:25,840 Yeah, so I just wanted to go back, 1801 03:24:26,020 --> 03:24:28,060 first of all, thanks for being here, great presentation. 1802 03:24:30,260 --> 03:24:33,040 I really like your slide that talked about, 1803 03:24:33,040 --> 03:24:35,320 some of the goals, and then also some of the challenges 1804 03:24:36,000 --> 03:24:37,660 with achieving that goals, and that's something 1805 03:24:38,100 --> 03:24:40,160 we haven't heard other committees saying today 1806 03:24:40,160 --> 03:24:44,220 and I know we've had lots of conversations about it. 1807 03:24:44,220 --> 03:24:44,600 Um, 1808 03:24:47,800 --> 03:24:54,280 I wanted to dig into the thing around like the rapid, the rapid response, uh, and some 1809 03:24:54,280 --> 03:24:58,780 of the sequencing, because this is something I've noticed just around committees in general, 1810 03:24:58,800 --> 03:25:03,940 is like, they're only, and I, I think I brought this up to council at the last time that 1811 03:25:03,940 --> 03:25:09,260 these, these, this was here is like, if their, if committees are only getting a report when 1812 03:25:09,260 --> 03:25:15,240 it's published, and then we want, they want to give feedback on it, they don't have a board meeting 1813 03:25:15,240 --> 03:25:22,840 time for it to be necessarily a board position or an advisory board position. So that's why 1814 03:25:22,840 --> 03:25:29,500 you've done the rapid response where it's more a collection of individual committee members thoughts 1815 03:25:29,500 --> 03:25:36,040 as opposed to that board. But would your preference be to continue that? Do you think that is 1816 03:25:36,040 --> 03:25:42,320 is a good way forward or would you like to see how we as council could be better sequencing for 1817 03:25:42,320 --> 03:25:50,920 advisory committees to give us that more unified perspective on items that are topical to 1818 03:25:50,920 --> 03:25:54,680 whatever area advisory we're dealing with. 1819 03:25:57,450 --> 03:26:04,070 That's a great question. Thank you. The whole question to answer I think too. I would say in an 1820 03:26:04,070 --> 03:26:09,270 ideal world we'd be able to get those reports further and so we could come up with a more unified 1821 03:26:10,670 --> 03:26:18,570 Board perspective, but equally, we're often not, we don't always have a unified perspective. 1822 03:26:19,550 --> 03:26:25,050 We are 12 different voices. We don't always agree on the same things. 1823 03:26:25,930 --> 03:26:31,150 And I also would like to respect that administration puts a lot of work into these reports, 1824 03:26:31,250 --> 03:26:35,290 and sometimes it's hard for them to get them sort of more than that we can advance. 1825 03:26:36,950 --> 03:26:41,670 So, yeah, like I said, ideally it would be nice to get them in advance, so we can create 1826 03:26:41,670 --> 03:26:49,790 sort of a more unified perspective, but we are happy working within the constraints that 1827 03:26:49,790 --> 03:26:50,570 we have as well. 1828 03:26:51,070 --> 03:26:56,090 Yeah, and while it's not in this report, because it was 2025, I really appreciated the public 1829 03:26:56,090 --> 03:27:00,130 species, a rapid response that ETS advisory board also did. 1830 03:27:00,770 --> 03:27:04,350 When you talk about goal one, though, you talk about challenges around clarity and transparency 1831 03:27:04,350 --> 03:27:06,510 and see around submission process. 1832 03:27:06,830 --> 03:27:08,750 Can you elaborate on what you meant by that? 1833 03:27:11,060 --> 03:27:14,060 Yeah, that's sort of taking some of our internal 1834 03:27:14,060 --> 03:27:20,700 board feedback just when we start collecting that feedback. 1835 03:27:21,320 --> 03:27:23,880 Sometimes the board member in charge might not be sure 1836 03:27:23,880 --> 03:27:27,320 how to format it or how to sort of get it all together. 1837 03:27:28,260 --> 03:27:31,780 So it'd be nice to just internally sort of refine that process. 1838 03:27:32,120 --> 03:27:35,220 Maybe have a template that makes it easier for the board member 1839 03:27:35,220 --> 03:27:38,740 in charge to sort of plot things in me. 1840 03:27:39,320 --> 03:27:43,000 And then in terms of submitting it, making sure 1841 03:27:43,000 --> 03:27:47,020 that everyone that thinks or that everyone 1842 03:27:47,020 --> 03:27:50,320 is ccd on those submissions and not just the people that 1843 03:27:50,320 --> 03:27:53,980 responded, so we all have a clear understanding 1844 03:27:53,980 --> 03:27:55,320 of what has been presented. 1845 03:27:57,120 --> 03:27:59,700 So it's really just sort of an internal process thing. 1846 03:27:59,700 --> 03:28:10,040 Okay, now that helps and I really like the pet friendly transit. Can you tell you more about how that one got selected? 1847 03:28:13,180 --> 03:28:17,400 Yeah, absolutely. That came out of discussion at our annual retreat. 1848 03:28:19,260 --> 03:28:28,520 I think that's something we're all enthusiastic about is making sure that all Edmontonians can use transit effectively. 1849 03:28:28,520 --> 03:28:35,760 And for people with pets that might include bringing their pet to the vet, for example, or just getting through 1850 03:28:35,760 --> 03:28:41,680 Edmonton with their pet, which is not always feasible within the current restrictions. 1851 03:28:43,080 --> 03:28:51,880 So we'd like to just do that sort of jurisdictional scan, find out what some best practices are for allowing pets on transit. 1852 03:28:51,880 --> 03:28:58,880 But also respecting that we need to make space for, for example, people with allergies or 1853 03:29:02,140 --> 03:29:06,100 phobias that may not want to see those paths around as well. 1854 03:29:06,260 --> 03:29:09,760 So we need to respect all users, all in transit. 1855 03:29:10,840 --> 03:29:11,680 I look forward to that. 1856 03:29:11,860 --> 03:29:12,840 Thank you. 1857 03:29:13,660 --> 03:29:14,420 Thanks so much. 1858 03:29:14,540 --> 03:29:15,300 Councillor Stevenson. 1859 03:29:16,720 --> 03:29:17,540 Yeah, thank you very much. 1860 03:29:17,540 --> 03:29:23,440 really appreciate the work they are doing in your presentation to us today. I just wanted 1861 03:29:23,440 --> 03:29:30,900 to follow up on the planned actions for this year. So I think the idea of pets on transit, 1862 03:29:31,020 --> 03:29:37,320 I think is a really wonderful example of a user, writer, driven approach, just noticing 1863 03:29:37,320 --> 03:29:43,320 this gap in our community and maybe initiating some first thoughts and steps around this topic. 1864 03:29:43,320 --> 03:29:52,660 I think maybe where, so a couple of the other ones, looking at our card implementation and also the funding gap. 1865 03:29:53,080 --> 03:29:59,520 You know those, those seem like areas of work that our city staff are maybe already looking at and undertaking. 1866 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:08,320 And with significantly more and more resources, as to undertake those. So wondering how the committee sees themselves 1867 03:30:08,320 --> 03:30:16,000 sort of complementing and supporting, maybe that work that's already happening with city staff, rather than 1868 03:30:16,620 --> 03:30:22,860 taking or duplicating or sort of doing this, not in collaboration. 1869 03:30:26,080 --> 03:30:27,180 Yeah, absolutely. 1870 03:30:30,940 --> 03:30:36,100 So with the, for example, if we get the fair funding gap, that one we 1871 03:30:36,100 --> 03:30:44,520 thought was very important coming into an election year in that we recognize that the transit 1872 03:30:44,520 --> 03:30:52,380 goals for fair recovery are not enough, which is actually being recovered. So we felt it 1873 03:30:53,160 --> 03:30:59,920 important to make sure we get that user perspective or the admin told me in perspective how 1874 03:30:59,920 --> 03:31:07,120 important it is to have affordable transit. So even if we aren't meeting those targets ensuring 1875 03:31:07,120 --> 03:31:14,300 that we have laid out our position of why affordable transit is so important. And we do really 1876 03:31:14,300 --> 03:31:21,360 appreciate the work that this council has supported in keeping transit affordable. But again, 1877 03:31:21,360 --> 03:31:25,000 going into the election here, we want to make sure our position is very clearly about. 1878 03:31:27,440 --> 03:31:34,920 And with the art card, for example, that one is really more about providing that stakeholder 1879 03:31:34,920 --> 03:31:35,520 perspective. 1880 03:31:35,900 --> 03:31:43,360 So we know that ETS does a lot of work in evaluating the art card, but this would be really 1881 03:31:44,820 --> 03:31:55,220 specific to that user perspective, as well as sort of looking at not only the problems with it, 1882 03:31:55,440 --> 03:32:00,420 but that sort of step forward as we move into open payment. How is this rolling out? 1883 03:32:02,840 --> 03:32:04,660 How is it easy for users? 1884 03:32:05,560 --> 03:32:07,180 Where are the opportunities for improvement? 1885 03:32:08,060 --> 03:32:15,020 Okay, no, that's really helpful, so I think what I'm hearing from you is the way that this work kind of compliments. 1886 03:32:15,560 --> 03:32:23,120 Because you know, recognizing that I think city administration is doing detailed surveys of our users. 1887 03:32:23,380 --> 03:32:30,940 I think what I'm hearing is that you're really bringing in sort of that qualitative or storytelling side of the picture. 1888 03:32:30,940 --> 03:32:37,640 So, it's not necessarily quantitative, statistically valid surveys necessarily, but again, 1889 03:32:37,840 --> 03:32:45,160 sort of that personal side, you know, representing those perspectives. 1890 03:32:47,060 --> 03:32:47,960 Is that kind of the idea? 1891 03:32:48,500 --> 03:32:55,620 We really want to focus on that user perspective and bring sort of our expertise to the table as transit users. 1892 03:32:55,620 --> 03:33:00,620 Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you so much for that and thanks for the work that you do. 1893 03:33:02,420 --> 03:33:03,220 Thank you. 1894 03:33:03,680 --> 03:33:04,820 Thank you so much. 1895 03:33:05,560 --> 03:33:09,220 Not seeing further questions. Is there anyone who would like to speak to this item? 1896 03:33:14,490 --> 03:33:15,050 Councillor Rutherford. 1897 03:33:16,050 --> 03:33:19,230 Yeah, I just want to end with some gratitude. 1898 03:33:21,010 --> 03:33:28,590 I think many might recall. There's been like a quite a huge change in the composition of ETS advisory board in the last little while 1899 03:33:28,590 --> 03:33:34,130 and new leadership and Emily's done amazing work in that capacity. 1900 03:33:35,010 --> 03:33:39,790 But I think Councillor Stevenson touched on something that is, I think this committee 1901 03:33:39,790 --> 03:33:44,330 is particularly grappled with, which is, ETS does have a lot of data. 1902 03:33:44,910 --> 03:33:46,770 They do collect a lot of information. 1903 03:33:47,730 --> 03:33:55,450 And so where does the advisory board fit into that to both augment, but also provide a different 1904 03:33:55,450 --> 03:34:07,770 valued expertise lens for council decision-making, and so they really grappled with that at the last retreat that Emily was mentioning here. 1905 03:34:07,970 --> 03:34:11,290 And I think art card is perfect example of last time it came forward. 1906 03:34:11,330 --> 03:34:17,650 It was more of an analysis of the art card. This year they're really focused on that user experience. 1907 03:34:17,650 --> 03:34:25,770 What are some of those things that that might be worth considering for council as we move far forward with the art card roll out? 1908 03:34:26,230 --> 03:34:30,510 The funding fair gap was one that I would have the pleasure to drop in for a part portion of 1909 03:34:31,390 --> 03:34:34,750 That retreat and I did highlight to them. You know 1910 03:34:34,750 --> 03:34:40,670 Council is making so many decisions now in 2025 and into 1911 03:34:40,670 --> 03:34:47,790 twenty twenty six related to transit related to fair amounts at that point we didn't know 1912 03:34:47,790 --> 03:34:53,330 if the province was going to come to the table with the the funding for the low income 1913 03:34:53,330 --> 03:34:59,430 transit pass and if we were going to have to fill that gap further. So I was just providing 1914 03:34:59,430 --> 03:35:04,990 that context of that when we're talking about advisory committees we are making a lot of decisions 1915 03:35:04,990 --> 03:35:11,170 about funding and transit. So that's, I think, the intent that working with ETS advisory board 1916 03:35:11,170 --> 03:35:15,350 they came up with around the funding gap, not doing the work of necessarily addressing the 1917 03:35:15,350 --> 03:35:22,110 funding gap but also why the choices we make on transit to expand transit to invest in more 1918 03:35:22,110 --> 03:35:30,870 buses, to invest in more service hours, to make our debts and our on demand more reliable and 1919 03:35:30,870 --> 03:35:38,190 every day was the key there. Obviously, I didn't have any influence on this one, but I love the 1920 03:35:38,190 --> 03:35:42,970 prep friendly transit one and I can't wait and I think Emily really talked about it a lot in 1921 03:35:42,970 --> 03:35:47,270 terms of there is other things to consider. There's so much it seems so easy and so straightforward 1922 03:35:47,270 --> 03:35:54,510 of course like dogs on trains, woo, but then it's like phobias and allergies and so many other layers 1923 03:35:54,510 --> 03:36:00,310 and so I think it's going to be a really interesting report and I'm so excited for for that and then 1924 03:36:00,310 --> 03:36:03,850 mapping and the navigation. The more we can make our systems more 1925 03:36:03,850 --> 03:36:08,870 navigate to navigate for the user and from a user perspective, the 1926 03:36:08,870 --> 03:36:13,490 better we can build the systems that that actually do create that 1927 03:36:13,490 --> 03:36:18,610 reliability. And so I think that this work plan that ETS Advisory Board 1928 03:36:18,610 --> 03:36:26,190 has come forward with is really topical, really focused on their expertise and 1929 03:36:26,190 --> 03:36:34,430 knowledge that they bring as active and avid transit users and individuals that are just plainly 1930 03:36:35,650 --> 03:36:45,150 passionate about transit. They love transit, they believe in it, they use it and they see the 1931 03:36:45,150 --> 03:36:50,730 the overall benefit. And so I'm so honored and humbled every time I get to go to an ETS advisory board 1932 03:36:50,730 --> 03:36:58,690 meeting and here they're brilliant perspectives and learn from them each and every day that I've 1933 03:36:58,690 --> 03:37:03,310 been able to do that. So thank you so much for this awesome presentation and for the great 1934 03:37:03,310 --> 03:37:09,190 work you did in 2024 and I'm looking forward to seeing what ETS Advisory Board does in 2025. 1935 03:37:10,130 --> 03:37:14,010 Thank you. Thank you, please vote. Yes. 1936 03:37:16,310 --> 03:37:16,990 Thank you, Councillor Gents. 1937 03:37:21,220 --> 03:37:22,600 I'm yes. Thank you, Councillor 1938 03:37:22,600 --> 03:37:22,960 price. 1939 03:37:25,420 --> 03:37:27,060 We have all the votes displayed in the vote. 1940 03:37:29,430 --> 03:37:29,970 That is care. 1941 03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:59,920 Great. Great. Well, thank you so much, Emily. Really appreciate you being with us today and all the work that you and the rest of the committee put into making our transit system as good as it can be and your dedication to continual improvement. It's really appreciated. I'm looking forward to the work ahead too. All right. So, I think we're just going to pause for a moment for a little bit of a gender management. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, before we break for dinner. And I'll just look to the city clerk. 1942 03:38:00,000 --> 03:38:10,200 We have three more committees left and my understanding is just based on timing and scheduling for those folks that will be coming back at 6 p.m. 1943 03:38:10,200 --> 03:38:18,660 to connect with wave followed by youth council and then the Edmonton Combat of Sports Commission. 1944 03:38:19,080 --> 03:38:19,760 That makes sense. 1945 03:38:20,140 --> 03:38:20,320 Okay. 1946 03:38:21,300 --> 03:38:21,760 Fantastic. 1947 03:38:23,000 --> 03:38:24,560 And nothing else that we were good? 1948 03:38:25,380 --> 03:38:25,460 Okay. 1949 03:38:25,500 --> 03:38:26,160 It was a lot of great. 1950 03:38:26,640 --> 03:38:26,900 Wonderful. 1951 03:38:27,700 --> 03:38:27,860 Okay. 1952 03:38:27,960 --> 03:38:29,240 We'll take a recess. 1953 03:38:30,080 --> 03:38:30,600 Tell 6pm. 1954 03:38:30,780 --> 03:38:31,420 Thank you so much everyone. 1955 04:45:28,140 --> 04:45:30,140 And I'll start with 1956 04:45:30,660 --> 04:45:34,540 Nothing Councilor Wright is here yet unless she's online. 1957 04:45:34,940 --> 04:45:35,880 Councillor Wright. 1958 04:45:37,640 --> 04:45:38,940 No, Councillor now. 1959 04:45:39,600 --> 04:45:40,460 Good evening. 1960 04:45:41,520 --> 04:45:42,240 Councillor Stevenson. 1961 04:45:42,420 --> 04:45:43,620 Sorry, Councillor Prince Pay. 1962 04:45:43,820 --> 04:45:44,260 Hello. 1963 04:45:44,620 --> 04:45:45,580 Hello, Councillor Stevenson. 1964 04:45:46,100 --> 04:45:46,540 Good evening. 1965 04:45:47,020 --> 04:45:47,920 Councillor for cat. 1966 04:45:53,180 --> 04:45:53,530 Councillor Tang. 1967 04:45:54,720 --> 04:45:55,710 I believe it's on her way. 1968 04:45:58,680 --> 04:46:00,000 Councillor Hamilton. 1969 04:46:01,540 --> 04:46:02,240 Good evening. 1970 04:46:02,580 --> 04:46:03,180 Good evening. 1971 04:46:03,500 --> 04:46:04,200 Councillor rather thanford. 1972 04:46:07,140 --> 04:46:07,780 Hello. 1973 04:46:09,440 --> 04:46:10,380 Counselor Carmel. 1974 04:46:12,800 --> 04:46:13,500 Counselor Rice. 1975 04:46:14,260 --> 04:46:14,380 Hello. 1976 04:46:15,140 --> 04:46:15,620 Counselor Jans. 1977 04:46:15,940 --> 04:46:16,140 Hello. 1978 04:46:17,620 --> 04:46:17,940 All right. 1979 04:46:18,640 --> 04:46:18,860 Okay. 1980 04:46:19,060 --> 04:46:22,800 So our next item is... 1981 04:46:23,520 --> 04:46:23,860 Uh... 1982 04:46:23,860 --> 04:46:24,140 Wave. 1983 04:46:24,760 --> 04:46:24,920 Wonderful. 1984 04:46:25,520 --> 04:46:25,720 Okay. 1985 04:46:25,760 --> 04:46:28,640 So we have both echo, Kaiser, 1986 04:46:29,240 --> 04:46:33,000 and JC Manine with us this evening from Wave. 1987 04:46:33,740 --> 04:46:35,660 And thank you both so much for being here. 1988 04:46:35,660 --> 04:46:43,420 We have some time for you to offer a bit of presentation in opening remarks, and then we'll go around to see if anyone has questions 1989 04:46:44,160 --> 04:46:46,880 So we'll turn things over to you. Please go ahead. 1990 04:46:49,880 --> 04:46:53,340 Hi, good evening everybody. I don't know why that's not it's so 1991 04:46:53,340 --> 04:47:01,020 Texan for a second, but yeah, really great good evening. Hi, man. I keep the gal. My name is JC Veneen. I am a 1992 04:47:01,020 --> 04:47:09,820 One of the two co-chairs newly elected back in November, 2024, and we're going to be presenting for you guys the animal report for 2024, really exciting. 1993 04:47:10,700 --> 04:47:12,220 So yeah, that's why we're all here. 1994 04:47:12,480 --> 04:47:30,800 But the animal report has been developed to meet the requirements of bylaw 18156 council committees bylaw, which sets out the animal reporting requirements for council committees, such as that we report to council at least once annually along with the approval of a work plan that lines with council strategic objectives. 1995 04:47:30,800 --> 04:47:40,800 and the Council Committee mandate, including a reporting of resources where provided in the previous year and the anticipated resource requirements for the upcoming year. 1996 04:47:43,660 --> 04:47:47,620 Cool, and the next slide. There you go. Thank you. Waves mandate is as followed. 1997 04:47:47,900 --> 04:47:55,320 Provide recommendations to Council about women's and gender-based issues and opportunities in relation to Council policies, priorities, and decisions. 1998 04:47:55,320 --> 04:48:08,360 promote leadership development, to empower administrative women to fully participate in civic life and research and provide information and resources about women's gender-based issues and opportunities to Edmontonians. 1999 04:48:08,840 --> 04:48:23,920 Below, we have strategic goals, not number one, advocate to Edmonton City Council on critical issues affecting women and gender-diverse people to improve quality of life for women and gender-diverse people and a misquite what the Hygan, what the Hygan, sorry. 2000 04:48:23,920 --> 04:48:30,540 And power, women, and gender diverse people to get involved in different ways with municipal government. 2001 04:48:35,100 --> 04:48:36,080 Next slide, please. 2002 04:48:36,840 --> 04:48:37,540 Thank you. 2003 04:48:38,020 --> 04:48:38,320 All right. 2004 04:48:39,120 --> 04:48:43,460 So this is a bit of a summary of the progress that we made in 2024. 2005 04:48:44,260 --> 04:48:49,980 So some of that was we successfully rallied for the creation of A2S LGBTQIA plus action plan for 2006 04:48:49,980 --> 04:48:55,340 single one of our mandate. We also successfully finished equity and motion strongly with 2007 04:48:55,340 --> 04:48:59,660 excellent community turnout for filling goal three of our mandate. We also completed engagement 2008 04:48:59,660 --> 04:49:03,900 with the vehicle for higher team enabling proper training to be mandated for drivers and the 2009 04:49:03,900 --> 04:49:09,260 fling goal two of our mandate. And we also increased overall community engagement through the expansion 2010 04:49:09,260 --> 04:49:14,000 of our social media following across all platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn 2011 04:49:14,000 --> 04:49:17,960 allowing for more efficient methods of communication with Edmontonians. 2012 04:49:19,000 --> 04:49:19,940 Next slide please. 2013 04:49:21,460 --> 04:49:23,680 So summary for goal 2. 2014 04:49:24,080 --> 04:49:26,140 Just a overview of this. 2015 04:49:26,560 --> 04:49:30,840 We had diligent engagement with the community safety and well-being strategy team. 2016 04:49:31,160 --> 04:49:34,500 And it's going to be a plus lens was taken in all aspects of the initiative. 2017 04:49:35,380 --> 04:49:39,780 And input resulted in missing aspects of the project being identified and adjusted accordingly. 2018 04:49:39,780 --> 04:49:46,420 We also required training and acted to decrease incidents of discrimination or negative 2019 04:49:46,420 --> 04:49:51,060 writer experience based on gender, religion, ability and sexuality, engagement with the 2020 04:49:51,060 --> 04:49:56,500 transit safety initiative resulted in perspective taken into account that we're not previously 2021 04:49:56,500 --> 04:50:00,960 considered and increased social media following has allowed for greater community engagement 2022 04:50:00,960 --> 04:50:03,420 which is a key tenant of our work. 2023 04:50:05,280 --> 04:50:11,580 And for goal 3, summary of our progress for this, we increased our social meeting engagement, 2024 04:50:11,800 --> 04:50:13,600 following the equity and motion speaker series. 2025 04:50:14,080 --> 04:50:18,160 As was previously mentioned, this increased our community engagement and empowerment strategy. 2026 04:50:19,100 --> 04:50:23,500 We're starting on the creation of a more online content to further empower women and 2027 04:50:23,500 --> 04:50:24,280 generators people. 2028 04:50:25,000 --> 04:50:28,600 We also did a lot of work in magnifying the work of existing organizations, 2029 04:50:29,280 --> 04:50:31,740 which resulted in excellent turnout engagement with their programs. 2030 04:50:31,740 --> 04:50:40,580 further in their mission and the mandate of wave intern and we also had a vast reduction in chair burn out following the implementation of the co-chair model 2031 04:50:40,580 --> 04:50:43,270 Demonstrating the success of this leadership model 2032 04:50:44,240 --> 04:50:51,820 So no co-chair has needed to take a leave of absence contrary to the prior trend of chairs or vice chairs needing to take a leave that was consistent 2033 04:50:51,820 --> 04:50:57,150 Issue that we had noticed and implementing the co-chair model did effectively deal with that problem and 2034 04:50:57,150 --> 04:51:03,330 And we have continued advocacy to reduce burnout among women and gender diverse volunteers and counselors. 2035 04:51:07,650 --> 04:51:08,390 Next slide. 2036 04:51:08,610 --> 04:51:10,630 There we go, thank you. 2037 04:51:11,070 --> 04:51:11,430 Here we go. 2038 04:51:11,510 --> 04:51:16,950 In addition to the aforementioned, we also took on website management, social media management, 2039 04:51:17,110 --> 04:51:20,850 and we met with Edmonton Youth Council, Accessibility Advisory Committee, 2040 04:51:21,410 --> 04:51:26,410 and Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee to speak with the mayor about the fall budget adjustment. 2041 04:51:26,410 --> 04:51:35,170 We also attended City Hall School events on multiple occasions and attended J. Percy Page High School to teach leadership class about wave. 2042 04:51:35,930 --> 04:51:38,710 We also, I believe, next slide. 2043 04:51:39,970 --> 04:51:47,890 Yes, the things to note for topics and motions for the first quarter are the ongoing discussion to include gender diverse people in the mandate. 2044 04:51:47,890 --> 04:52:01,530 The approval of the Strategic Plan and Work Plan for 2024-2026 involvement with the LRT Infrastructure Planning and Mass Transit Discussion and having a handed approval of the Queer Specific Advisory Committee. 2045 04:52:01,970 --> 04:52:04,930 Number eight also for the second and third quarter. 2046 04:52:05,190 --> 04:52:14,350 We were also involved in priority growth area, rezoning project, approved projects like the active citizen series and a continuation of equity and motion. 2047 04:52:14,350 --> 04:52:19,910 We're also involved in the CSWB strategy in the Violence Prevention Action Plan. 2048 04:52:20,570 --> 04:52:27,510 And finally, for the last quarter, the Co-Chair Model Pilot was a success and was amended into our bylaw. 2049 04:52:28,030 --> 04:52:29,970 We're involved in the fall budget discussion. 2050 04:52:30,000 --> 04:52:48,900 We had co-chair nominations and liais with the eminent police commission. New policy, subcommittee co-chairs, and we also had discussions about what our social media presence was going to look like after Paredo's contract ended. Also, we were involved in the Affordable Housing Investment Policy. 2051 04:52:51,360 --> 04:53:00,240 Oh, we're a couple of slides behind. Sorry. There we go. Okay, next one more slide and then one more. 2052 04:53:00,900 --> 04:53:08,940 There we go. Now we're here. For a communication, we sent many, but the highlights are the public spaces by law briefing. 2053 04:53:09,240 --> 04:53:17,660 The briefing on safe and inclusive public spaces related to the queer advisory committee, a letter regarding the corporate homelessness plan. 2054 04:53:17,660 --> 04:53:20,940 and the letter regarding the fall budget adjustment. 2055 04:53:22,180 --> 04:53:26,020 Our current membership is as follows on the screen, and that's next slide. 2056 04:53:26,840 --> 04:53:29,140 Sorry, I talk very fast. Sorry. 2057 04:53:30,640 --> 04:53:32,980 Our current membership is as follows on the screen. 2058 04:53:33,200 --> 04:53:37,460 We have a couple people leaving, but we're just finishing up our recruitment cycle. 2059 04:53:45,390 --> 04:53:49,990 So for the work plan for the incoming year, 2060 04:53:50,290 --> 04:53:53,290 I'm going to talk a little bit about that next slide, please. 2061 04:53:53,290 --> 04:54:01,670 So some of the outcomes is developing a framework and process developed to streamline the process. 2062 04:54:02,190 --> 04:54:05,570 Subject matter, expert network developed and consulted as needed. 2063 04:54:06,010 --> 04:54:12,430 Brief submitted to council on areas of concern and engage with council on critical issues related to the wave mandate. 2064 04:54:12,510 --> 04:54:16,830 You can see the action items outlined here for that for goal 1. 2065 04:54:16,830 --> 04:54:21,490 for goal 2. If you can go to the next slide, please. 2066 04:54:23,370 --> 04:54:28,050 So, again, for this one, we have relevant city of Edmonton branches, are informed 2067 04:54:28,050 --> 04:54:29,850 and engaged on waves area of interest. 2068 04:54:30,590 --> 04:54:34,050 Waves impact is measured through a tracking framework that was previously mentioned. 2069 04:54:34,590 --> 04:54:38,770 Research sharing is implemented into the social media strategy, as well as encouraging feedback 2070 04:54:38,770 --> 04:54:43,970 from community. An input section will be added to the website to allow for direct communication 2071 04:54:43,970 --> 04:54:48,590 with community on key issues that directly affect them, and implementation of the financial 2072 04:54:48,590 --> 04:54:52,590 Friday's project in the Indigenous Learning Series on social media and the Wave website. 2073 04:54:59,820 --> 04:55:04,660 So, also part of our empower women and digital diverse people get involved with different ways. 2074 04:55:04,840 --> 04:55:09,680 We also have help women and gender diverse people learn about how to engage with council on critical 2075 04:55:09,680 --> 04:55:15,060 issues, identifying support groups that help promote gender diversity on council, civic engagement, 2076 04:55:15,060 --> 04:55:21,100 Identify areas to reduce burnout with women and gender-diverse people on council and on with. 2077 04:55:21,540 --> 04:55:28,560 Identify and advocate for the removal of barriers to civic engagement that would disproportionately affect women and gender-diverse people. 2078 04:55:28,900 --> 04:55:35,000 We also have equity in motion, the podcast will act as a continuation of original equity in motion speaker series. 2079 04:55:35,400 --> 04:55:40,560 But the podcast format will make the project more accessible and allow for a wider reach. 2080 04:55:40,560 --> 04:55:46,960 This project continues the work of the original speaker series by educating and empowering women to get 2081 04:55:46,960 --> 04:55:51,640 and gendered diverse people to get involved in municipal governments through various areas of impact. 2082 04:55:52,600 --> 04:55:58,900 The active citizenship social media and website project will further act as an education and empowerment tool 2083 04:55:59,160 --> 04:56:03,900 and then the continued with the involvement with City Health School. 2084 04:56:06,970 --> 04:56:15,130 So, in line with goal one, we would like to request the policy subcommittee to be continued as it was from last year. 2085 04:56:15,270 --> 04:56:23,510 This subcommittee will continue to be tasked with drafting briefing notes, letters, and conducting additional research all to be deliberated during main committee meetings. 2086 04:56:24,070 --> 04:56:33,130 While the committee as a whole will contribute to thought leadership, the actual drafting, editing, and gathering of information will be undertaken within the policy subcommittee. 2087 04:56:33,130 --> 04:56:38,890 So, motions pertinent to this endeavor will be proposed by the committee as a whole during the 2088 04:56:38,890 --> 04:56:41,310 regular meetings for the subcommittee to address. 2089 04:56:41,870 --> 04:56:46,970 Transfine this workload to the subcommittee will allow for the main monthly meetings to 2090 04:56:46,970 --> 04:56:52,810 prioritize delegation actions and discussions given the time intensive nature of drafting 2091 04:56:52,810 --> 04:56:57,950 and compiling involving the entire committee is more or less unnecessary for that. 2092 04:56:57,950 --> 04:57:02,950 Moreover, Swift Action is often required when submitting letters and correspondences to 2093 04:57:02,950 --> 04:57:08,050 Edmonton City Council and a dedicated subcommittee can ensure accountability and proactive 2094 04:57:08,050 --> 04:57:13,190 engagements among its members facilitating timely research and initial drafts. 2095 04:57:13,590 --> 04:57:18,150 Administrative supports to run the subcommittee will be required with respect to attending the 2096 04:57:18,150 --> 04:57:21,590 monthly meetings, live streaming and subcommittee agendas and meeting minutes. 2097 04:57:22,470 --> 04:57:26,450 A co-chair model will be maintained for the subcommittee to ensure accountability and 2098 04:57:26,450 --> 04:57:30,230 work in the work and to for the reduced burnouts 2099 04:57:32,790 --> 04:57:36,570 and that's it. I don't have any questions for us. 2100 04:57:37,690 --> 04:57:43,230 Great, well thank you so much for the presentation and thorough overview. I'll go to 2101 04:57:44,410 --> 04:57:48,550 Councillor Rutherford if you'd like to put the motion on the floor and if you have any questions. 2102 04:57:49,890 --> 04:57:54,070 Yeah, I'll move that the women's advisory voice of Edmonton's committee request to establish 2103 04:57:54,070 --> 04:58:01,370 one subcommittee for the 2025 Work Plan as LINE and Attachment 3, be approved. 2104 04:58:04,270 --> 04:58:04,450 Great. 2105 04:58:04,650 --> 04:58:05,470 And do you have any questions? 2106 04:58:07,270 --> 04:58:08,010 Yes, 2107 04:58:11,650 --> 04:58:19,630 you mentioned the podcast as one of the actions for 2025, when is the first 2108 04:58:19,630 --> 04:58:20,430 one going to drop? 2109 04:58:21,770 --> 04:58:24,690 It is currently slated for the end of March. 2110 04:58:25,410 --> 04:58:25,890 Amazing. 2111 04:58:26,670 --> 04:58:27,870 I mean, and what's that topic on? 2112 04:58:27,890 --> 04:58:29,550 Can you just give, give, give, 2113 04:58:30,050 --> 04:58:32,970 the many end-mentonians that are listening today. 2114 04:58:34,710 --> 04:58:36,430 A teaser in what they, 2115 04:58:37,590 --> 04:58:40,170 Sure, so the first episode is going to be talking about 2116 04:58:40,170 --> 04:58:43,110 the world of women and gender diverse people in sports 2117 04:58:43,110 --> 04:58:45,410 and how that relates to municipal governance. 2118 04:58:46,090 --> 04:58:48,670 We're also going to be having another episode on law 2119 04:58:48,670 --> 04:58:51,070 and then the last one will be a social activism. 2120 04:58:52,570 --> 04:58:54,570 Great, very cool. 2121 04:58:55,210 --> 04:58:55,990 So anybody listening? 2122 04:58:56,930 --> 04:58:58,230 Watch for it to drop. 2123 04:59:03,310 --> 04:59:07,770 I asked the same question to the ETS advisor board as the council appointed member there. 2124 04:59:08,510 --> 04:59:18,570 I think that there is just a challenge around some of the sequencing, and I know because you're wanting to give the women in gender diverse perspective on things that affect 2125 04:59:18,570 --> 04:59:27,530 decisions of council and then sometimes again I mentioned if the report's not coming out and then by the time the report comes out 2126 04:59:27,530 --> 04:59:31,850 You don't have another committee of the whole in which to approve it. Is it really challenging? 2127 04:59:31,970 --> 04:59:39,050 So I just wanted to give you space to sort of talk a bit about that and how council can support 2128 04:59:39,610 --> 04:59:44,350 That like sequencing for you for you for way to be able to successfully share their voice 2129 04:59:50,330 --> 04:59:56,650 That is something that we've had a fair bit of difficulty with in the past that we've had very quick turnaround 2130 04:59:56,650 --> 04:59:59,970 We're talking like a few days to we hear about an issue and then 2131 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:09,220 And then we have to very quickly draft a letter or some kind of briefing, which is very difficult when you have people that work full-time day jobs. 2132 05:00:09,580 --> 05:00:16,100 That's part of what the policies of committee will help with, but having a little bit more warning when things are coming out. 2133 05:00:16,240 --> 05:00:23,460 So we have time to discuss as a committee. So we're not having to scramble via email to figure out what position we're going to take on certain things. 2134 05:00:23,460 --> 05:00:29,300 Does having a little bit more worrying for things would be appreciated? 2135 05:00:30,880 --> 05:00:30,960 Yes. 2136 05:00:31,720 --> 05:00:32,300 Thank you. 2137 05:00:32,300 --> 05:00:38,460 And I'm going to ask each of you what is one thing that you want to highlight is a pressing 2138 05:00:40,420 --> 05:00:43,200 thing that as a woman or gender diverse person. 2139 05:00:44,480 --> 05:00:50,260 What is a pressing thing that council needs to be thinking about with regards to making decisions 2140 05:00:50,260 --> 05:00:53,080 for women and gender diverse folks. 2141 05:00:56,690 --> 05:01:01,010 I think one of the biggest things just because things are getting so expensive right now 2142 05:01:01,010 --> 05:01:08,230 is just considering that budget and then also considering just, I feel like as someone 2143 05:01:08,230 --> 05:01:13,430 that is a woman that, you know, is taking care of my family and everything, it's getting so 2144 05:01:13,430 --> 05:01:15,490 expensive out there times are really tough. 2145 05:01:15,830 --> 05:01:20,830 I live downtown, I see a lot of people that are, that are helpless, that are really struggling 2146 05:01:20,830 --> 05:01:26,110 out there as well and it's just a matter of one looking at her budget, looking at all the expenses 2147 05:01:26,110 --> 05:01:31,690 that are just going to be increasing because we're heading into a horrible, horrible year when 2148 05:01:31,690 --> 05:01:35,950 it comes to money issues but if that's something that can be considered that would be awesome 2149 05:01:35,950 --> 05:01:41,730 but also if we can also add just a lot more consideration we're thinking about our houseless neighbors 2150 05:01:41,730 --> 05:01:45,730 as well. You know these are people that I'm on but I see every morning when I'm going to work 2151 05:01:45,730 --> 05:01:50,530 and they're my neighbors too and so thinking about them I think that would be really awesome as well. 2152 05:01:54,010 --> 05:02:03,330 For me, as a gender diverse person, somebody that's very visibly a trans person, there are many places in the city that I do not go. 2153 05:02:03,470 --> 05:02:10,070 There are places that I avoid. When I'm in public, I don't use the public washrooms. I don't belong in the men's washroom, 2154 05:02:10,290 --> 05:02:16,530 because I'm scared of being harassed or hate-crimeed, and I don't want to go into the women's washroom because I don't want to make women uncomfortable. 2155 05:02:16,530 --> 05:02:21,670 This is something that affects me and pretty much any other generous person that you ask. 2156 05:02:21,930 --> 05:02:29,570 I can guarantee we all have at least one story of getting nasty looks or being approached in the washrooms. 2157 05:02:30,010 --> 05:02:33,670 Or just like being in public and not feeling like I am welcome. 2158 05:02:34,310 --> 05:02:38,850 Or for those of us that have not had the money or the time to legally change our name. 2159 05:02:39,070 --> 05:02:46,130 They're often a lot of spaces that force you to use your legal name and don't give you a space to put a preferred name 2160 05:02:46,130 --> 05:02:48,710 or to put pronouns, things like that. 2161 05:02:48,710 --> 05:02:50,630 These are things that I think about every single day. 2162 05:02:50,690 --> 05:02:53,250 These are things that all trans people think about every single day. 2163 05:02:53,370 --> 05:02:55,290 So I would strongly encourage everybody on council 2164 05:02:55,750 --> 05:02:57,390 to consider that at the very least, 2165 05:02:57,470 --> 05:02:59,190 when we're thinking about washrooms and public spaces, 2166 05:02:59,350 --> 05:03:00,430 we all need to use the washroom. 2167 05:03:00,690 --> 05:03:02,390 And I want to be able to use the washroom, 2168 05:03:02,550 --> 05:03:04,270 safety, safely, and in comfort. 2169 05:03:05,610 --> 05:03:06,890 Great, thank you so much. 2170 05:03:07,330 --> 05:03:07,970 Thank you. 2171 05:03:08,530 --> 05:03:09,130 It comes to a rate. 2172 05:03:10,350 --> 05:03:11,390 Thank you very much. 2173 05:03:11,550 --> 05:03:15,250 I'm just wondering about with peridose contract, 2174 05:03:15,250 --> 05:03:23,110 Running out? How are you going to manage those communications do you have like specific people on 2175 05:03:23,110 --> 05:03:30,410 committee or? Yes, so when we found out about that we very quickly created a social media 2176 05:03:31,090 --> 05:03:37,410 kind of ad hoc workforce to deal with that. So it's not an official subcommittee by any means and 2177 05:03:37,410 --> 05:03:44,730 the capacity is reduced compared to when we had formal social media support but we do have a few 2178 05:03:44,730 --> 05:03:48,850 people that handle a lot of our social media and our website. 2179 05:03:49,410 --> 05:03:50,770 OK, so that spread out as well. 2180 05:03:50,970 --> 05:03:53,590 So you're not going to get burnout of those volunteers, either. 2181 05:03:54,430 --> 05:03:57,690 Yeah, we actually reached out to the Edmonton Youth Council 2182 05:03:57,690 --> 05:03:59,490 because they managed their own social media. 2183 05:03:59,530 --> 05:04:02,610 So we asked them how they do it, and they gave us a very comprehensive 2184 05:04:02,610 --> 05:04:05,130 overview of how they managed the social media 2185 05:04:05,130 --> 05:04:07,910 while also considering burnout and the stress of the volunteers. 2186 05:04:08,290 --> 05:04:10,890 That's awesome to hear that you are reaching out to others. 2187 05:04:11,290 --> 05:04:11,930 OK, great to hear. 2188 05:04:11,930 --> 05:04:19,170 Um, because JC, you were kind of, you weren't looking as comfortable or as confident as echo was in that response. 2189 05:04:19,790 --> 05:04:21,770 You, you got a little more hesitation on that? 2190 05:04:22,430 --> 05:04:28,530 No, I think, uh, with wave, I've, they've done nothing but an awesome job when it came to social media. 2191 05:04:28,610 --> 05:04:33,930 I think, um, when we're looking at, I think, I feel like with wave we're still in those, 2192 05:04:34,730 --> 05:04:37,790 and think those building block stages where we're looking at, you know, 2193 05:04:38,330 --> 05:04:46,790 how much do we want to speak and how much do we want to say on certain topics, what can we say on certain topics and stuff like that and so it's 2194 05:04:47,330 --> 05:04:54,770 but I have full trust in wave and I think social media thus far if you've checked out our pages then really actually really really nice 2195 05:04:54,770 --> 05:04:57,710 yeah it's been really clean and professional so it's looked really good. 2196 05:04:58,030 --> 05:05:02,790 okay awesome okay and actually then that just sort of made me think of something else too 2197 05:05:05,990 --> 05:05:18,270 How have you, and I asked this of the Accessibility Advisory Committee as well, how have you moved from an advocacy role into an advisory role 2198 05:05:20,640 --> 05:05:22,400 and how difficult was that? 2199 05:05:23,000 --> 05:05:26,220 That was something that took place over time. 2200 05:05:27,140 --> 05:05:31,720 It came about, I believe that changed happened a year or so ago at this point. 2201 05:05:31,720 --> 05:05:38,180 So just a matter of having that open discussion with the committee and refocusing what we were 2202 05:05:38,180 --> 05:05:42,600 doing, so that reflected in our strategic plan and our work plan, refocusing and making sure 2203 05:05:42,600 --> 05:05:49,440 that we are keeping in mind council's priorities and focusing on advising, instead of advocating 2204 05:05:49,440 --> 05:05:56,140 per se, which to me is sort of a tomato tomato issue, but for us it was more of a refocusing of 2205 05:05:56,140 --> 05:05:56,580 our work. 2206 05:05:56,580 --> 05:06:02,920 Okay, rather than sort of public advocacy, you were advocating to counsel in an advisory role? 2207 05:06:03,640 --> 05:06:04,140 Yes, that's okay. 2208 05:06:05,780 --> 05:06:13,160 And then in order to, the conflict, as Councillor Rutherford was talking about in the short 2209 05:06:13,160 --> 05:06:18,840 turnaround time for reports and that would it be your preference that maybe admin 2210 05:06:18,840 --> 05:06:23,440 connect with you prior to those reports even actually being printed? 2211 05:06:27,180 --> 05:06:39,700 And then one last question in regards to the speaker series and that with the law, one, do you have someone with that law background? 2212 05:06:39,920 --> 05:06:52,440 I don't want to see, all right, I'd hate to see as far as a sort of a liability against way for maybe providing inaccurate advice or 2213 05:06:53,600 --> 05:06:57,000 I can assure you that we reached out to subject matter experts. 2214 05:06:57,260 --> 05:07:00,520 We did not speak to things that I wouldn't speak to law. 2215 05:07:00,660 --> 05:07:05,040 I don't know about law, but we reached out to some lawyers that we knew. 2216 05:07:05,240 --> 05:07:08,680 So we had speakers come and speak with us. 2217 05:07:08,780 --> 05:07:09,460 We asked them questions. 2218 05:07:09,620 --> 05:07:10,900 They gave really amazing information. 2219 05:07:11,080 --> 05:07:12,580 That goes for all three of the episodes. 2220 05:07:12,820 --> 05:07:17,340 We had subject matter experts come in and talk with us and answer our questions. 2221 05:07:17,500 --> 05:07:17,700 Okay. 2222 05:07:18,600 --> 05:07:19,140 So you're covered. 2223 05:07:19,280 --> 05:07:19,880 We're covered. 2224 05:07:20,400 --> 05:07:22,500 I did my due diligence, sorry. 2225 05:07:23,940 --> 05:07:25,560 I wouldn't have doubted less than that. 2226 05:07:25,900 --> 05:07:26,400 Thank you. 2227 05:07:27,240 --> 05:07:27,420 Great. 2228 05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:52,000 Thank you very much. And for the, for the, for the report and also the work plan for the 2025. I really appreciate the last of work projects and actions were taking any of the past year and then move forward to the future. So the few, 2229 05:07:52,000 --> 05:07:59,660 question here, and for the question one, because we have, yes, we have, we have like 2230 05:07:59,660 --> 05:08:06,180 woman, woman voice, and a specific woman voice, I just want to get a sense of diversity 2231 05:08:06,180 --> 05:08:07,100 site. 2232 05:08:07,880 --> 05:08:15,000 And by looking at, by looking at the activities or the events or project finished, and how 2233 05:08:15,000 --> 05:08:22,440 that diversity he refracts across like the or state or city has like over over 70 2234 05:08:22,440 --> 05:08:31,480 as a bit like the minority communities. How you balance that to get the representatives 2235 05:08:31,480 --> 05:08:39,360 of voice from different minority communities. So I would like to say a little bit more on 2236 05:08:39,360 --> 05:08:46,460 piece to really reflect that's equitable and then equality values there. 2237 05:08:50,880 --> 05:08:55,760 Yeah, with wave, a lot of our members are very diverse and we come from a lot of different 2238 05:08:56,440 --> 05:09:01,120 communities and backgrounds. Part of our recruitment actually is looking at a lot of our 2239 05:09:01,120 --> 05:09:10,480 different, I think we wanted to, we look at the gaps that we're missing, that we 2240 05:09:10,480 --> 05:09:16,000 actually didn't have a lot of members that were, that were her job, but we're Muslim. 2241 05:09:16,440 --> 05:09:20,380 And so we actually went, and that was something that we looked for when it came to recruitment 2242 05:09:20,380 --> 05:09:25,660 to come and have that representation as well. And I think in our recruitment, it'll definitely 2243 05:09:25,660 --> 05:09:31,460 reflect a wider range of different community members as well. When it comes to diverse folks from 2244 05:09:31,460 --> 05:09:36,840 across Edmonton, which is really nice. But yeah, we have a lot of different members that are 2245 05:09:36,840 --> 05:09:42,520 that have that really firm voice at the table, which is awesome. 2246 05:09:45,050 --> 05:09:46,270 Okay, thank you. 2247 05:09:46,970 --> 05:09:50,110 In terms of Tucson 25 work plan, 2248 05:09:50,450 --> 05:09:52,830 and then I'm so glad you see, 2249 05:09:53,150 --> 05:09:54,330 you have different goals, 2250 05:09:54,770 --> 05:09:56,170 and it's a really clear, 2251 05:09:56,170 --> 05:09:58,550 alt-mines and a new work plan. 2252 05:09:59,770 --> 05:10:01,550 Because Tucson 25 is easy, 2253 05:10:01,750 --> 05:10:02,650 like she is. 2254 05:10:03,490 --> 05:10:04,910 It's my understanding, 2255 05:10:04,910 --> 05:10:06,450 and we've got to change 2256 05:10:06,450 --> 05:10:15,310 from like advocacy role to advisor role. So, is there any specific, specific appoint or specific 2257 05:10:15,310 --> 05:10:24,790 thinking and how you separate your certain plan or your action and in a 2025 really 2258 05:10:24,790 --> 05:10:32,550 created that distance between the election and then our waves voice and activities? 2259 05:10:32,550 --> 05:10:33,810 When 2260 05:10:36,310 --> 05:10:41,550 you say election, are you referring to the municipal election or the culture? 2261 05:10:41,970 --> 05:10:45,890 Yes, the municipal, municipal election, because you talk about, I heard the presentation, 2262 05:10:46,290 --> 05:10:51,610 talk about some kind of election, with the city council or something, so how that distance 2263 05:10:51,610 --> 05:11:00,390 will be created and between that election, all the municipal elections and then, so also weaves 2264 05:11:00,390 --> 05:11:10,610 work and then, well, that dispense. I don't think that it's possible for us as a municipal 2265 05:11:10,610 --> 05:11:15,470 advisory committee to have distance from the election, because it directly affects both 2266 05:11:15,470 --> 05:11:22,470 of us in turn, us as a committee, and you as a counselor. So I'm not entirely sure what 2267 05:11:22,470 --> 05:11:27,210 you're asking because we are a product of council. 2268 05:11:31,920 --> 05:11:49,440 So, what I mean is for election, election years are so many activities going on, there's so many campaigns going on and what do you face with role and create that distance between you 2269 05:11:49,440 --> 05:11:57,140 actual projects and then between your projects, your actions and then all, and even when 2270 05:11:57,140 --> 05:12:04,440 you are doing the social media and the media and the campaign and a full certain candidates 2271 05:12:04,440 --> 05:12:10,940 and doing. So, is there any, any, any way to look at this other distance there? 2272 05:12:12,420 --> 05:12:17,760 Yeah, I think with Wave, something that we've done that is we're going to follow through for the 2273 05:12:17,760 --> 05:12:24,580 years actually reducing our scope quite a bit. So we'll be focusing a lot more on that advisory 2274 05:12:24,580 --> 05:12:30,120 piece with Council, so we'll be having a lot more of our boys be hopefully heard a lot more 2275 05:12:30,120 --> 05:12:34,000 with Council and we'll be working with Erin Rutherford as well, Councillor Erin Rutherford 2276 05:12:34,000 --> 05:12:39,060 Rutherford Rutherford is awesome. So that's something we'll be moving forward with as far as 2277 05:12:39,060 --> 05:12:45,020 projects are going again with their reduction in social media and a reduction in just um well 2278 05:12:45,020 --> 05:12:51,960 Our budget is fairly the same, which is great, but that's something we're looking at, especially for this new year, 2279 05:12:52,140 --> 05:12:56,200 and with this team that we have as well. So it's just that reducing that scope quite a bit, 2280 05:12:56,760 --> 05:12:59,900 by primarily focusing our efforts instead of being more outwardly, 2281 05:13:00,520 --> 05:13:04,360 we're, is that make sense? We're being a bit more inwardly and working directly with Council, 2282 05:13:04,620 --> 05:13:08,220 as we can. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. My time is out. 2283 05:13:08,800 --> 05:13:15,960 Councillor Tain. Yeah, great. Thank you. Yeah, that goal number three also really intrigued me as well. 2284 05:13:16,180 --> 05:13:21,160 And I think it's excellent that that you're making that one of your central work. 2285 05:13:22,540 --> 05:13:26,640 I mean, when I think about how we've started, it was by Councillor Bev, as ginger, 2286 05:13:26,800 --> 05:13:32,960 when there was only one woman on council. And then two. And so I think it's really important. 2287 05:13:32,960 --> 05:13:38,320 I guess my question is, you know, I do see there's a lot of organizations, groups in 2288 05:13:38,320 --> 05:13:41,520 eminent, kind of supporting similar efforts in civic engagement. 2289 05:13:41,900 --> 05:13:46,680 I know you're just mentioned that you're trying to work more internally, but are you aware 2290 05:13:46,680 --> 05:13:49,280 of them, are you connecting with them, are you partnering? 2291 05:13:50,960 --> 05:13:56,080 Definitely, for sure, we did get a fair few presentations from these organizations because part 2292 05:13:56,080 --> 05:13:59,940 of what we want to do is elevate the organizations that are already existing, that are doing 2293 05:13:59,940 --> 05:14:17,000 a fantastic work for women and gender diverse people in Edmonton, our scope as a council advisory committee is of course limited so we do we can in elevating the work of these organizations because it's falls within our area, but it does fall outside of our scope so in that way we're 2294 05:14:17,000 --> 05:14:23,740 support word sort of artificially inflating our scope by supporting these other organizations as well. 2295 05:14:23,740 --> 05:14:30,720 Yeah, I think because I do see a lot of parallels in seeing greater gender parity in municipal councils, 2296 05:14:30,940 --> 05:14:33,100 which I think is a real risk. 2297 05:14:33,940 --> 05:14:35,700 We may even lose the momentum we have. 2298 05:14:36,180 --> 05:14:38,740 That's certainly the conversation I'm hearing from. 2299 05:14:39,280 --> 05:14:42,660 Sorry, not in this room, but certainly a lot of colleagues across the province. 2300 05:14:44,420 --> 05:14:48,340 I think this group has reached out to myself and Councilor Rutherford, 2301 05:14:48,400 --> 05:14:53,020 but I just want to make sure you're aware about some of the research that came out a couple years ago. 2302 05:14:53,020 --> 05:14:59,140 with the barriers project that highlighted the challenges that women and gender diverse local 2303 05:14:59,140 --> 05:14:59,980 I'd like to finish all the things. 2304 05:15:01,100 --> 05:15:11,360 And is there a way to kind of build on that work, you know, are you connecting with them? And just want to make sure that they're on your way to her. 2305 05:15:11,580 --> 05:15:27,580 Interestingly, that you mentioned that a wave member had an idea for a project that has not been yet brought up at a wave meeting. So I can't actually say anything yet because it hasn't been discussed or approved just yet, but it is something that's on a rate of yes. 2306 05:15:27,580 --> 05:15:38,040 Thank you. I don't have any more questions, but I will say just really value, you know, you have a long history of doing very nonpartisan 2307 05:15:38,580 --> 05:15:47,000 Excellent community work and bowel raising the profile of a women in policy and politics, and so I just encourage you continue on that path. Thank you. 2308 05:15:48,630 --> 05:15:51,050 Councilor Roy, are you on for a second round? 2309 05:15:51,970 --> 05:15:52,810 Something like to move that? 2310 05:15:52,910 --> 05:15:53,370 It's all moved. 2311 05:15:54,790 --> 05:15:55,510 Please vote. 2312 05:16:01,670 --> 05:16:01,830 Yes. 2313 05:16:02,830 --> 05:16:03,490 Thank you, Councilor Roy. 2314 05:16:06,860 --> 05:16:07,100 Yes. 2315 05:16:07,760 --> 05:16:08,580 Thank you, Councillor Hartmel. 2316 05:16:08,720 --> 05:16:09,600 We have all the votes. 2317 05:16:09,740 --> 05:16:10,540 Just leave the vote. 2318 05:16:12,990 --> 05:16:13,210 That's carried. 2319 05:16:13,390 --> 05:16:13,830 Go ahead. 2320 05:16:14,830 --> 05:16:15,210 Thank you. 2321 05:16:15,810 --> 05:16:17,930 I just serve, I guess, following up, maybe, 2322 05:16:18,050 --> 05:16:19,950 from Councilor Roy's questions, 2323 05:16:22,110 --> 05:16:25,710 like you're not wave itself 2324 05:16:25,710 --> 05:16:26,890 being a product council. 2325 05:16:26,890 --> 05:16:30,250 you're not campaigning or endorsing any candidates? 2326 05:16:32,510 --> 05:16:33,390 No, because we cannot. 2327 05:16:33,970 --> 05:16:34,750 OK, OK. 2328 05:16:35,510 --> 05:16:38,870 I just wanted to make sure of that. 2329 05:16:39,450 --> 05:16:44,610 And then, but you are able to, well, no, maybe you can't either. 2330 05:16:45,250 --> 05:16:49,610 I'm about encouraging people to vote in the municipal election 2331 05:16:49,610 --> 05:16:52,250 is or is that more of an advocacy role? 2332 05:16:54,780 --> 05:17:00,160 That is something that we're going to be discussing actually relating to the upcoming 2333 05:17:00,160 --> 05:17:03,480 municipal election in our meeting tomorrow. 2334 05:17:04,020 --> 05:17:04,340 Okay. 2335 05:17:04,680 --> 05:17:06,800 Actually, so a lot of this is quite timely. 2336 05:17:07,040 --> 05:17:11,580 It's something that we are thinking about as a committee, as we come up to the municipal 2337 05:17:11,580 --> 05:17:11,960 elections. 2338 05:17:12,140 --> 05:17:15,020 We want to make sure that we're seeing continued gender parity. 2339 05:17:15,080 --> 05:17:20,120 That's part of our mandate is to empower women and gender diverse people to participate 2340 05:17:20,120 --> 05:17:21,120 in municipal governance. 2341 05:17:21,380 --> 05:17:22,540 So it's something that we do discuss. 2342 05:17:22,800 --> 05:17:22,860 Yes. 2343 05:17:22,960 --> 05:17:23,080 Okay. 2344 05:17:23,080 --> 05:17:30,060 Perfect. Awesome. And just thank you for continuing your presentations at City Hall School as well. 2345 05:17:30,200 --> 05:17:31,600 For God about that. Thank you. 2346 05:17:33,160 --> 05:17:36,660 Great. Thank you so much. Not seeing anyone else on for questions. 2347 05:17:37,180 --> 05:17:39,620 If there's anyone who would like to speak, you can sign up now. 2348 05:17:45,630 --> 05:17:47,290 Not but go to Councillor Rutherford. 2349 05:17:48,690 --> 05:17:51,290 Just clicking on to say to speak. 2350 05:17:51,290 --> 05:17:58,650 Well, first and foremost, you know, this is a 2024 report. I want to take a moment to think 2351 05:17:58,650 --> 05:18:07,690 the outgoing co-chairs that did an amazing job in 2024, so we had Julianne through fall, 2352 05:18:08,110 --> 05:18:18,510 and we had Arisa Jua that were on the co-chairs until November 2024, so a big part of last year, 2353 05:18:18,510 --> 05:18:48,430 And so, a lot of the credit for what has happened in 2024 is a result of them and every other member of Wave, of course, but I do want to just give them and then I want to say a big thank you to JC and Echo for stepping up and co-chairing together and jumping into that with your hearts and with the passion that I've seen you bringing every day, I have no doubt that 2025 will be amazing with the two of you at the helm. 2354 05:18:48,510 --> 05:18:54,310 And I want to thank Councillor Wright because Councillor Wright and I are also were co-appointed 2355 05:18:54,310 --> 05:18:57,950 in 2024 to— 2356 05:18:59,730 --> 05:19:02,290 So we had two Councillors appointed to WAVE. 2357 05:19:02,610 --> 05:19:07,870 We decided just from capacity and other things that it just made sense to just have one. 2358 05:19:08,630 --> 05:19:14,230 I was lucky enough to win the arm wrestle with Councillor Wright and not just kidding. 2359 05:19:15,250 --> 05:19:21,270 She's busy with commission work and I have really been passionate about this so I just want 2360 05:19:21,270 --> 05:19:26,910 to say thank you for her being there for when we first both got appointed and all of the 2361 05:19:26,910 --> 05:19:34,210 collective we work we did I think it's helped me to take that baton and keep running. 2362 05:19:37,340 --> 05:19:43,660 When it comes to advisory I think that that transition has been hard for many of our committees 2363 05:19:43,660 --> 05:19:52,680 And the wave is no doubt I think Councillor Tang really highlighted it well of the birth 2364 05:19:52,680 --> 05:19:59,300 of this committee was from a very different space in a very different time when there was 2365 05:19:59,300 --> 05:20:06,480 a lone woman on council and there was many women issues facing our city that still exists 2366 05:20:06,480 --> 05:20:11,640 today, but there wasn't the same voice on council to represent that. 2367 05:20:11,640 --> 05:20:17,920 But that being said, I think Councillor Rice brings up a very good point around, that there's still 2368 05:20:17,920 --> 05:20:23,140 barriers for by-pock folks to have a seat at this table. 2369 05:20:23,620 --> 05:20:29,840 I still think about how we've never had a black representative on city council in our history as 2370 05:20:29,840 --> 05:20:30,660 Edmontonians. 2371 05:20:31,440 --> 05:20:36,100 And so it is still a comment upon us, even though we have reached parity and I hope we 2372 05:20:36,100 --> 05:20:43,240 pain parity for in 2021 around women and men. 2373 05:20:44,220 --> 05:20:50,040 I would love to see some gender-diverse folks, or trans folks at the table. 2374 05:20:50,060 --> 05:20:55,160 I'd like to see some more BIPOC folks at the table, so there's still more work to be done. 2375 05:20:55,320 --> 05:21:00,320 And I think Wave has a big role in making sure that that intersectionality is always at 2376 05:21:00,320 --> 05:21:05,440 the forefront of our minds and our thoughts and continues to keep pushing us and challenging 2377 05:21:05,440 --> 05:21:12,220 us to make safe and inclusive spaces that we're pushing for and I want to thank my council 2378 05:21:12,220 --> 05:21:16,800 colleagues for you know everything that wave is brought forward from the vehicle for higher 2379 05:21:16,800 --> 05:21:23,500 to the safe and inclusive spaces have been resoundedly supported by this council and so I 2380 05:21:23,500 --> 05:21:27,880 thank my colleagues for that too. Look forward to working with you more in 2025. 2381 05:21:30,280 --> 05:21:31,480 Please vote. Thank you. 2382 05:21:42,820 --> 05:21:44,140 Yes. Thank you guys for coming. 2383 05:21:50,070 --> 05:21:52,150 Councilor Rutherford, which is waiting for your vote. 2384 05:21:52,650 --> 05:21:55,250 Yes. Thank you. We have all the votes. 2385 05:21:55,510 --> 05:21:56,130 Display the vote. 2386 05:21:59,540 --> 05:22:00,840 That's carried. Excellent. 2387 05:22:01,500 --> 05:22:02,860 Thanks so much for this discussion everyone. 2388 05:22:03,480 --> 05:22:05,060 And thank you both for being with us today. 2389 05:22:06,440 --> 05:22:10,620 Yeah, I really appreciate everything that you're doing as part of Wave. 2390 05:22:11,440 --> 05:22:13,260 And looking forward to the podcast too. 2391 05:22:14,620 --> 05:22:15,680 I'll add to my list. 2392 05:22:15,820 --> 05:22:18,400 I edited that myself. So hopefully it's good. 2393 05:22:18,880 --> 05:22:24,360 Amazing! Amazing! Okay, well well well well, well at it. Thank you both so much. All right, we're gonna 2394 05:22:24,360 --> 05:22:29,020 move on to our next item. You can feel free to stick around, but it's up to you! 2395 05:22:31,220 --> 05:22:41,640 Next up, we're going to go to City Department to Newt Council. And I believe Ali and Angelina are joining us online, they are joining us online, you know, fantastic. 2396 05:22:43,840 --> 05:22:48,280 All right. Ali and Angelina, are you on with us? 2397 05:22:52,190 --> 05:23:00,370 Yes, are you animals? Yes, there we go. Very nice to see both of you. We have your slide deck up and ready to go. 2398 05:23:00,370 --> 05:23:06,250 So we're going to give you a bit of time to walk us through that and then we'll transition over to some questions from counselors. 2399 05:23:07,610 --> 05:23:08,530 Have you had the floor? 2400 05:23:10,370 --> 05:23:10,650 Yes. 2401 05:23:10,650 --> 05:23:11,610 Okay, awesome. 2402 05:23:13,730 --> 05:23:14,210 Yeah, sorry. 2403 05:23:14,630 --> 05:23:18,510 Just before we get started, should I just call out like slide for this slide? 2404 05:23:18,890 --> 05:23:19,290 Yes. 2405 05:23:19,310 --> 05:23:20,070 That would be great. 2406 05:23:20,590 --> 05:23:21,170 Okay, awesome. 2407 05:23:22,430 --> 05:23:22,530 Yeah. 2408 05:23:22,910 --> 05:23:23,370 Good evening. 2409 05:23:23,410 --> 05:23:24,130 Good evening. 2410 05:23:24,550 --> 05:23:24,610 Everyone. 2411 05:23:24,970 --> 05:23:26,030 My name is Ali Ahmed. 2412 05:23:26,030 --> 05:23:28,390 and I am the COVID or one of the coaches for this 2413 05:23:28,390 --> 05:23:29,950 adjournance in Youth Council this term. 2414 05:23:30,710 --> 05:23:33,670 And I'm Angelina Reina, the other co-chair for this term. 2415 05:23:34,210 --> 05:23:35,010 Slide please. 2416 05:23:37,030 --> 05:23:37,610 Thank you. 2417 05:23:37,950 --> 05:23:40,930 Yeah, this year actually marks CUC's 30th anniversary, 2418 05:23:41,370 --> 05:23:44,470 so we are especially excited to be presenting to you this evening. 2419 05:23:46,830 --> 05:23:48,750 Our agenda for today is as follows. 2420 05:23:49,170 --> 05:23:52,990 First we'll talk about what is CUC then where did these starts 2421 05:23:52,990 --> 05:23:54,330 at the beginning of the term. 2422 05:23:54,330 --> 05:23:58,270 then where are we now and finally where are we heading? 2423 05:23:59,010 --> 05:23:59,250 Slide. 2424 05:24:02,780 --> 05:24:12,220 So our mission as the City of Edmonton Youth Council is to educate and empower youth to provide meaningful input and to take action on local issues and useful politics. 2425 05:24:12,920 --> 05:24:17,880 We do so through our mandate of providing information advice to the Council according by law. 2426 05:24:19,980 --> 05:24:26,600 And we do this by in relation to issues involving or affecting youth by empowering our members through leadership, 2427 05:24:26,600 --> 05:24:28,520 training and service opportunities. 2428 05:24:29,380 --> 05:24:33,060 See you, I see membership is composed of young people aged 13 to 23. 2429 05:24:33,920 --> 05:24:38,820 Now, this demographic tends to be the most engaged on local issues, but has the least power 2430 05:24:38,820 --> 05:24:41,060 on paper, at least in affecting them. 2431 05:24:41,100 --> 05:24:46,100 As people under 18 can't vote, and most youth up to 23 are self and actually dependent. 2432 05:24:46,520 --> 05:24:50,940 So, USC is so important because it provides youth and avenue for real action on local issues. 2433 05:24:50,940 --> 05:24:56,000 And this does truly contribute to the personal development and political education of young 2434 05:24:56,000 --> 05:24:56,540 people. 2435 05:24:56,780 --> 05:25:01,900 A lot of CYC members come on to work in council offices, their schools, unions, and they 2436 05:25:01,900 --> 05:25:05,900 continue to develop skills that they began to first nurture in CYC. 2437 05:25:08,300 --> 05:25:13,320 In there are over 180,000 people between the ages of 10 and 24 living in Edmonton, according 2438 05:25:13,320 --> 05:25:17,300 to the 2021 census, and that number is certainly much higher now. 2439 05:25:17,300 --> 05:25:21,460 This goes to show how critical a user presentation is and will continue to be particularly 2440 05:25:21,460 --> 05:25:22,320 in this event. 2441 05:25:23,900 --> 05:25:24,860 Like please. 2442 05:25:26,900 --> 05:25:28,820 Okay, now where did we start? 2443 05:25:30,040 --> 05:25:31,320 Um, do one more slide please. 2444 05:25:32,580 --> 05:25:32,720 Sorry. 2445 05:25:33,600 --> 05:25:37,680 Um, now this slide is somewhat misleading because we actually carried over our strategic planning 2446 05:25:37,680 --> 05:25:41,320 from last year, um, which took over, which took place in December 23. 2447 05:25:42,300 --> 05:25:46,720 Um, this is then mainly because our members were still quite happy with this strategic plan 2448 05:25:46,720 --> 05:25:50,840 from last year and it was just the same time in this term. 2449 05:25:51,240 --> 05:25:55,620 I mean, overarching values for this term are community safety and wellbeing, governance and 2450 05:25:55,620 --> 05:25:59,180 indigenous awareness, and we incorporate this into all of the work that we do. 2451 05:25:59,540 --> 05:25:59,580 Plan. 2452 05:26:05,120 --> 05:26:10,100 So now we'll talk a bit about where we are going over a subcommittees and their relevance to 2453 05:26:10,100 --> 05:26:10,920 CYC. 2454 05:26:11,280 --> 05:26:14,600 The initiatives they're involved in and how they contribute to our mandate. 2455 05:26:14,840 --> 05:26:20,040 Currently, as far as stats are concerned, we have 86 members working with CYC to say 2456 05:26:20,040 --> 05:26:25,480 20 VCMs and then use the large members files, which is a position that allows as many 2457 05:26:25,480 --> 05:26:30,000 used to get involved as possible with this council in our take center outreach and give 2458 05:26:30,000 --> 05:26:33,320 young people a lower stake opportunities to join. 2459 05:26:34,180 --> 05:26:34,700 Slide, 2460 05:26:37,500 --> 05:26:39,420 fun visual, slide again. 2461 05:26:43,710 --> 05:26:44,370 Is that one more slide? 2462 05:26:45,670 --> 05:26:46,590 Thank you. 2463 05:26:47,410 --> 05:26:49,010 So firstly, the policy subcommittee. 2464 05:26:49,130 --> 05:26:54,070 This is the most straightforward and obvious one, as it allows young people to become more 2465 05:26:54,070 --> 05:26:59,150 who's been involved by looking at policies that focus or interest in and also keeping up with 2466 05:26:59,150 --> 05:27:03,830 what city council is currently working on. So this committee makes recommendations to council 2467 05:27:03,830 --> 05:27:07,370 through reports they write, through meetings with council liaison and other means. 2468 05:27:09,070 --> 05:27:13,150 The policies of committee is headed by two chairs and is made up of members who are on different 2469 05:27:13,150 --> 05:27:18,170 initiatives. The following initiatives are the ones that we chose for this year. First is community 2470 05:27:18,170 --> 05:27:23,830 safety and well-being, which is working on its outreach to use through various channels of getting 2471 05:27:23,830 --> 05:27:27,770 survey out together data on how young people think of community and interact with community 2472 05:27:27,770 --> 05:27:32,230 along with their impressions of safety and the city. They will also be looking at already 2473 05:27:32,230 --> 05:27:36,890 collected data along with their own and hopefully present a comprehensive or presented comprehensive 2474 05:27:36,890 --> 05:27:43,530 report to council within the upcoming year. Our second initiative is Addictions, which is 2475 05:27:43,530 --> 05:27:48,390 working to release. It was working to release a survey to gauge youth engaged with Addictions in order 2476 05:27:48,390 --> 05:27:52,550 to write a report but has since re-directed itself to working more closely in administration 2477 05:27:52,550 --> 05:27:58,030 on the city's upcoming drug strategy so that COAC and the city's future plans are closely 2478 05:27:58,030 --> 05:27:58,490 aligned. 2479 05:27:59,310 --> 05:28:01,470 We also have the anti-racism initiative. 2480 05:28:01,690 --> 05:28:07,010 This is based on connecting with schools to provide anti-racism education, conducting focus 2481 05:28:07,010 --> 05:28:11,910 groups to report to council and encourage more schools to be involved in this education campaign. 2482 05:28:13,010 --> 05:28:18,030 And last on least, engagement, more so and ad hoc initiative that involves engaging 2483 05:28:18,030 --> 05:28:22,690 the City Council policies as they're being discussed by responding to them in real time, 2484 05:28:22,970 --> 05:28:27,630 just through the public spaces by law, and we're continuing to encourage young people through 2485 05:28:27,630 --> 05:28:33,110 this initiative to become more comfortable with policy as a poll by encouraging them to attend 2486 05:28:33,110 --> 05:28:37,670 public hearings and person, but something that's difficult to do with school schedules. 2487 05:28:40,500 --> 05:28:44,680 Yeah, and this committee fulfills sections A, F, K, and H of a mandate. 2488 05:28:44,880 --> 05:28:48,820 Just a name of you, which is to say that the policy subcommittee is many times use 2489 05:28:48,820 --> 05:28:52,020 really first foray into reading and analyzing policy. 2490 05:28:52,560 --> 05:29:01,300 The current structure allows them the freedom to research issues at the intersection of youth and municipalities by having an incredibly direct and straightforward connection with the city and registration 2491 05:29:01,300 --> 05:29:04,860 who are always there to support us and counsel through our two council liaison. 2492 05:29:06,000 --> 05:29:14,460 It's incredibly important that young people are given the opportunity to do this policy work and secondly can do so with community and support. 2493 05:29:14,940 --> 05:29:15,880 Slide please. 2494 05:29:17,260 --> 05:29:26,340 Okay, projects of committee is CYC's largest subcommittee and it allows young people to act on policy recommendations and policies through projects. 2495 05:29:27,000 --> 05:29:36,080 Young people have the opportunity to put on events that align the values of our mandate and the city to build community and belonging while also working on project management skills. 2496 05:29:36,820 --> 05:29:39,700 The subcommittee has led by two chairs and has the following initiatives. 2497 05:29:40,580 --> 05:29:50,980 Firstly, the youth summit, which aims to bring youth from diverse backgrounds together in a safe and inclusive space to discuss their experiences of racism, mental health and steward typing. 2498 05:29:51,620 --> 05:29:56,980 This will be a flow-day event which will include collaborative sessions and guest speakers and a set to be in May. 2499 05:29:57,960 --> 05:29:59,980 The second initiative is on the suit. 2500 05:30:01,500 --> 05:30:08,840 This is an initiative partnering with the Alberta Health Services Community Helpers Program to provide the suicide prevention training for Edmonton Union. 2501 05:30:10,540 --> 05:30:20,740 This subcommittee fulfills sections, B. D. E. F. In each of our mandates, once again name a few, as this is subcommittee that is our largest and therefore more visible to use. 2502 05:30:20,740 --> 05:30:25,860 It's incredibly important, as far as actualizing the policies that youths work on is concerned, 2503 05:30:26,300 --> 05:30:31,040 so young people have the opportunity to practice interpreting policy, and then putting it into action. 2504 05:30:31,560 --> 05:30:36,640 A much growth occurs here as people have different interpretations and understandings of municipal services, 2505 05:30:37,080 --> 05:30:39,740 and what sort of projects they can actually work on. 2506 05:30:40,200 --> 05:30:48,400 And at the end, everyone leaves having more concrete event management skills and the ability to more effectively actualize abstract values and policies. 2507 05:30:48,400 --> 05:30:48,400 Next 2508 05:30:51,570 --> 05:30:53,450 slide please. 2509 05:30:56,920 --> 05:30:57,700 Thank you. 2510 05:30:57,960 --> 05:31:02,340 The internal subcommittee works to organize CYC internally, and is made up of the following 2511 05:31:02,340 --> 05:31:03,580 initiatives currently. 2512 05:31:04,060 --> 05:31:05,420 Firstly, we have networking. 2513 05:31:06,140 --> 05:31:09,620 This initiative is created to allow young people to network with one another, so different 2514 05:31:09,620 --> 05:31:14,280 schools, grades, while also involving some industry professionals to share their career 2515 05:31:14,280 --> 05:31:14,960 paths. 2516 05:31:15,720 --> 05:31:17,180 Secondly, public relations. 2517 05:31:17,560 --> 05:31:23,580 This initiative works to organize and create CYC's image, such as running our 2518 05:31:23,580 --> 05:31:29,780 Instagram, share, info, better initiatives, educating young people on city policy and is working 2519 05:31:29,780 --> 05:31:31,360 to also update our website. 2520 05:31:31,960 --> 05:31:37,180 This committee currently fulfills sections EF and GE of our mandate as it works to organize 2521 05:31:37,180 --> 05:31:40,860 members, provide networking opportunities and overall promote balance. 2522 05:31:41,740 --> 05:31:46,120 And as we already know, CYC had three subcommittees that each oversee a number of initiatives. 2523 05:31:46,700 --> 05:31:51,800 This subcommittee structure has a whole allows CYC to accomplish a greater scope of work 2524 05:31:51,800 --> 05:31:55,560 and provides meaningful opportunities for civic engagement 2525 05:31:55,560 --> 05:31:58,360 to the 20 council appointed PCMs, 2526 05:31:58,560 --> 05:32:00,720 so go to committee members and 60, 2527 05:32:01,180 --> 05:32:03,040 approximately 60 as the number of fluctuates 2528 05:32:03,040 --> 05:32:05,420 throughout the year, use a large members. 2529 05:32:05,840 --> 05:32:07,680 So the internal subcommittee is mainly tasked 2530 05:32:07,680 --> 05:32:11,200 with the administration of organizing CYC as a whole 2531 05:32:11,200 --> 05:32:12,660 and is responsible for its image. 2532 05:32:13,900 --> 05:32:15,700 We are currently planning on changing the structure 2533 05:32:15,700 --> 05:32:17,740 of this subcommittee as it has historically 2534 05:32:17,740 --> 05:32:20,220 held low attendance from the current initiative 2535 05:32:20,220 --> 05:32:23,900 to be a structure that it has now to something that will more easily allow the administrative 2536 05:32:23,900 --> 05:32:28,360 tasks of COSc to be done. Now, this is currently still being deliberated with FAN 2537 05:32:28,360 --> 05:32:33,060 Council for this term. As you may know, we don't currently have an external body 2538 05:32:33,060 --> 05:32:37,300 maintaining our board's image, so things like social media. So, communicating, so 2539 05:32:37,300 --> 05:32:41,160 communicating with youth through the internal subcommittee is an important tool for us 2540 05:32:41,160 --> 05:32:45,200 that comes a little, or a no-cost to council while it allows us to organize ourselves 2541 05:32:45,200 --> 05:32:50,080 more meaningfully. And we will continue to re-structure with the support of our members 2542 05:32:50,080 --> 05:32:54,480 so that we have a more efficient and effective internal subcommittee. 2543 05:32:55,640 --> 05:32:56,240 Slide please. 2544 05:32:57,420 --> 05:32:58,280 Thank you. 2545 05:32:58,660 --> 05:33:02,020 Yeah, this is just to slide that gives like a visual representation 2546 05:33:02,020 --> 05:33:06,080 of the different initiatives on these subcommittees that they belong to. 2547 05:33:07,380 --> 05:33:08,040 Slide please. 2548 05:33:09,420 --> 05:33:11,840 And lastly, where are we going? 2549 05:33:12,300 --> 05:33:12,900 One more slide. 2550 05:33:15,480 --> 05:33:19,280 So we wanted to propose the following recommendations to Council. 2551 05:33:20,560 --> 05:33:30,420 We'd like to request City Council to allow us to change our terms, which are currently September 1st to August 31st to the proposed August 1st to July 30th, 2552 05:33:30,560 --> 05:33:33,160 essentially just pushing the timeline back a month. 2553 05:33:33,640 --> 05:33:40,060 Reasoning for this is that even if CYC technically functions on a 12 month annual term, like all the other committees, 2554 05:33:40,920 --> 05:33:46,360 other boards, because we work with a largely student population, exam months and summer months 2555 05:33:46,360 --> 05:33:52,180 are incredibly slow times. So, December to January, along with April June, are exam times, 2556 05:33:52,320 --> 05:33:58,600 and July August is vacation time for EPSB students. Currently, we have our orientation meeting 2557 05:33:58,600 --> 05:34:03,760 in September. We hold our main elections in October, and our initiatives usually presents in November, 2558 05:34:03,960 --> 05:34:09,160 with many coming back for edits in December for re-approval. Therefore, initiatives don't start an 2559 05:34:09,160 --> 05:34:17,820 and until December, January, which is already a slow time for them and realistically only gives them four to five months to work on their initiative. 2560 05:34:19,200 --> 05:34:28,660 Our proposed timeline would allow us to hold our orientation meeting in the later half of August, keeping in mind still vacation time so the later half of August, 2561 05:34:29,460 --> 05:34:34,460 and we can complete election duties in September so that initiatives can be proposed and October. 2562 05:34:34,460 --> 05:34:38,580 This is a fruitful one that students are able to invest more time in their initiatives, 2563 05:34:39,120 --> 05:34:44,400 be extremely productive if they were able to make a meaningful start at this time before 2564 05:34:44,400 --> 05:34:48,480 they were bogged down by exams, and then initiatives will be able to keep their momentum 2565 05:34:48,480 --> 05:34:52,560 as they would be supplemented by the fact that they already made a start at this point in the year. 2566 05:34:54,000 --> 05:34:54,140 Awesome. 2567 05:34:55,400 --> 05:35:00,320 The second major recommendation that we'd like to make is to permanently shift the timing of this report to 2568 05:35:00,320 --> 05:35:03,600 in the A, so that it aligns with the timing of the membership report. 2569 05:35:04,440 --> 05:35:08,540 Now providing an annual report in February as we are currently required to do, limits 2570 05:35:08,540 --> 05:35:13,440 our ability to accurately report on the work of COIC and just provide an accurate work 2571 05:35:13,440 --> 05:35:13,780 plan. 2572 05:35:14,440 --> 05:35:18,560 Moving this time on is crucial for us to get to accurately depict the comprehensive work 2573 05:35:18,560 --> 05:35:23,700 that is being completed by our board and presented a more thorough report to you, City Council. 2574 05:35:24,340 --> 05:35:28,320 Another concern with the reporting time lane, as it is right now, in regards to the subcommittee 2575 05:35:28,320 --> 05:35:30,440 is in regards to the subcommittee approval process. 2576 05:35:31,380 --> 05:35:33,600 Now, the subcommittees for this term were formed in October 2577 05:35:33,600 --> 05:35:35,600 and are already formed into their work. 2578 05:35:36,000 --> 05:35:38,500 If CUSC remains on the same reporting timeline 2579 05:35:38,500 --> 05:35:40,780 as other advisory boards, it will cause challenges 2580 05:35:40,780 --> 05:35:43,420 in each term's planning phase when we seek 2581 05:35:43,420 --> 05:35:45,720 to request the continuation of our subcommittee model. 2582 05:35:46,820 --> 05:35:48,180 Additionally, we're also concerned 2583 05:35:48,180 --> 05:35:50,840 about maintaining the progress of each subcommittees work 2584 05:35:50,840 --> 05:35:52,340 while allowing for the incorporation 2585 05:35:52,340 --> 05:35:54,440 of any recommended changes from council. 2586 05:35:55,040 --> 05:35:56,840 The current reporting timeline and requirement 2587 05:35:56,840 --> 05:36:01,060 for Council approval on subcommittees that are midway through their term could potentially end 2588 05:36:01,060 --> 05:36:06,780 work that is already underway, putting both Council and our boards in a challenging position. 2589 05:36:08,100 --> 05:36:11,800 So for all those reasons, we'd like to propose a new timeline where COIC would report 2590 05:36:11,800 --> 05:36:16,580 to Council in May, just to ensure that we are aligned with COIC's work calendar, as well 2591 05:36:16,580 --> 05:36:22,400 as being able to contribute a more informed and meaningful report to City Council at your slide. 2592 05:36:24,580 --> 05:36:29,560 Here's a list of some upcoming events that are worth sharing your constituents, any young 2593 05:36:29,560 --> 05:36:30,940 people that might be interested. 2594 05:36:31,820 --> 05:36:38,160 We have GA General Assembly happening on April 2nd, the use summit on social justice sometime 2595 05:36:38,160 --> 05:36:44,540 in early May, as well as BCM applications will open in early May and the CYC working event 2596 05:36:44,540 --> 05:36:47,160 will happen on June 4th. 2597 05:36:47,180 --> 05:36:51,580 This list only includes dates and events for people of strong to CYC, so we'll continue 2598 05:36:51,580 --> 05:36:56,600 to work on initiatives like those in policy and internal in the background, as well. 2599 05:36:57,780 --> 05:36:58,420 One more slide. 2600 05:37:00,080 --> 05:37:00,260 Okay. 2601 05:37:00,740 --> 05:37:02,080 Lastly, just how to get involved. 2602 05:37:02,640 --> 05:37:09,800 So we strongly encourage you to attend and support our events to consult CYC on matters of discussion. 2603 05:37:10,360 --> 05:37:15,080 To invite CYC to be part of collaborations with other groups and invite youth in your words to apply. 2604 05:37:15,900 --> 05:37:20,780 We've been very happy to see a more consultation with CYC this term on things like the full budget adjustment 2605 05:37:20,780 --> 05:37:26,100 and public spaces by law. And when we're very eager to see more of that in the future. 2606 05:37:26,980 --> 05:37:27,460 Slide, please. 2607 05:37:29,750 --> 05:37:29,970 Yes. 2608 05:37:30,000 --> 05:37:35,400 So with that, we've reached the end of this presentation. Thank you so much for listening and we'll be happy to take any questions. 2609 05:37:36,200 --> 05:37:36,880 Thank you. 2610 05:37:36,920 --> 05:37:46,300 Great, thank you so much for the presentation. We'll now go to questions from colleagues. Councilor Jans, would you like to put a recommendation on the phone? 2611 05:37:46,300 --> 05:37:47,980 I'll move the recommendation, yes. 2612 05:37:52,400 --> 05:37:52,760 Second, 2613 05:37:56,040 --> 05:37:58,520 Michael, are you concerned Jans, go ahead if you have any questions? 2614 05:37:58,520 --> 05:38:08,640 I just wanted to ask a little bit more about that upcoming event and how you're going to promote it to other youths across the city of Edmonton. 2615 05:38:08,820 --> 05:38:11,400 I believe you said me, right? 2616 05:38:12,080 --> 05:38:12,500 The Symposium. 2617 05:38:14,710 --> 05:38:18,450 Yes, so I guess I can like start. 2618 05:38:19,050 --> 05:38:25,170 So typically the way that we get most of our engagement in terms of like youth coming to events just by word of mouth. 2619 05:38:25,170 --> 05:38:33,330 I'm just because we have views from all of the city all kinds of different schools, but we are also, like I think I think we've actually just talked about this too 2620 05:38:33,330 --> 05:38:41,950 We do have a new social media plan going happening with our internal security and so that's another way that we reach out to you 2621 05:38:41,950 --> 05:38:46,170 We'll also again like we've come here, you know, like one of the reasons 2622 05:38:46,170 --> 05:38:52,210 There's something that I think I try to do a lot is also just reach out to our own personal connections with other organizations 2623 05:38:52,890 --> 05:38:56,350 As you know, we used to tend to be involved in like as many things as possible 2624 05:38:56,350 --> 05:39:02,570 So yeah, it's a lot of sort of networking to try to get as much engagement as possible 2625 05:39:02,570 --> 05:39:06,190 Also to add on to that for this particular initiative 2626 05:39:06,190 --> 05:39:07,590 I believe 2627 05:39:08,190 --> 05:39:14,490 One network that they would tap into is the student senate system, so that's within EPSB contacting 2628 05:39:14,490 --> 05:39:18,670 students senators, so they can then pass the information down into their catchments schools 2629 05:39:18,670 --> 05:39:20,630 as they are appointed to do. 2630 05:39:21,050 --> 05:39:26,510 So that's one network that we try to tap into when it comes to sharing information, and then also emailing 2631 05:39:26,510 --> 05:39:28,610 high schools as need be. 2632 05:39:28,910 --> 05:39:34,690 Yeah, actually that was my next question was, is the student senate at the Edmonton Public Schools 2633 05:39:34,690 --> 05:39:40,310 still functioning and are you connected to them and you've already answered that. So that's that's excellent. That that's 2634 05:39:40,310 --> 05:39:48,990 it certainly gives you a wide a wide amplification. Well, keep up the great work and yeah, I'll yield my time. Thank you. 2635 05:39:49,810 --> 05:39:52,090 Thank you. Councillor Neckon, can you take the chair please? 2636 05:39:52,490 --> 05:39:58,330 I've got the chair. Thank you. Yeah, once again, thank you for the thorough presentation and for all the 2637 05:39:58,330 --> 05:40:06,450 to see why she's been doing. Maybe I'll just pick up on a few things. So the request 2638 05:40:06,450 --> 05:40:11,790 around changing the term, and actually this might be better directed towards administration, 2639 05:40:12,630 --> 05:40:20,750 just trying to understand is it difficult to have variability in what those term timelines look 2640 05:40:20,750 --> 05:40:24,250 like, what would the implications be of making that kind of change? 2641 05:40:26,430 --> 05:40:27,870 So in terms of this meeting 2642 05:40:27,870 --> 05:40:31,390 particular would mean that if those timelines are shifted, they're not coming with all the other 2643 05:40:31,390 --> 05:40:35,990 annual reports, they'd come to a regular council meeting, which is something the implemented 2644 05:40:35,990 --> 05:40:38,690 a few years ago to bring them all together, but it doesn't mean it can't be changed. 2645 05:40:39,870 --> 05:40:44,310 Okay, so I have a bit of the history here, so they used to be more dispersed, and then there was an 2646 05:40:44,310 --> 05:40:49,010 intentional move to bring them all together, so we're dealing with them as we are today. 2647 05:40:49,490 --> 05:40:53,010 Yeah, for both recruitment and annual reports, I'd say there certainly is value in having one 2648 05:40:53,010 --> 05:40:56,850 cycle and doing it all at one time, so you have a holistic look, but it can be split. 2649 05:40:57,390 --> 05:41:18,650 Okay, okay, yeah, and I mean, I can, I definitely, I definitely can hear some of the challenges with timing and just how that lines up with school and exam season at the same time, being able to do this in one go, makes a lot of sense on R&D administratively, 2650 05:41:20,730 --> 05:41:25,170 okay, and then I will just jump over to a question around the subcommittee. 2651 05:41:25,170 --> 05:41:31,050 So right now there's recommendation on the floor to establish three subcommittees. 2652 05:41:32,070 --> 05:41:34,130 Again, I just wanted to check in with administration. 2653 05:41:34,210 --> 05:41:40,010 I know in the report it does mention that see here. 2654 05:41:41,210 --> 05:41:44,950 Yeah, then administration would support establishing two subcommittees as opposed to three. 2655 05:41:45,190 --> 05:41:50,870 I'm just looking for a little bit of additional information there around some of the limitations or why 2656 05:41:50,870 --> 05:41:51,290 Thank you. 2657 05:41:51,790 --> 05:41:52,610 Thank you. 2658 05:41:52,610 --> 05:41:52,970 Sure. 2659 05:41:53,190 --> 05:41:53,270 Hi. 2660 05:41:53,470 --> 05:41:56,490 This is Judy Smith Director of Community Investment and Social Development. 2661 05:41:57,850 --> 05:42:03,070 We just find that if we have that many subcommittees because our team is supporting 2662 05:42:03,070 --> 05:42:09,350 all of the forward advisory boards in our area and having three subcommittees just puts a bit 2663 05:42:09,350 --> 05:42:10,710 of a strain on our staff. 2664 05:42:11,470 --> 05:42:17,590 And because the youth council is so uniquely formed, they have lots of events and things 2665 05:42:17,590 --> 05:42:23,190 And because they're part of the city, we need to have representatives from administration there. 2666 05:42:23,830 --> 05:42:28,690 So it just having an extra committee just puts extra burden upon a small team. 2667 05:42:29,930 --> 05:42:35,940 Yeah, okay. And help me help me understand, 2668 05:42:37,980 --> 05:42:40,680 so today, like that's quote today. 2669 05:42:42,740 --> 05:42:46,920 There are three subcommittees, yes, not in heads. 2670 05:42:48,200 --> 05:42:51,840 So is there, again, to administration, is there, is there a change in 2671 05:42:51,840 --> 05:42:59,320 resourcing or is there currently some tension there already, I guess, in terms of that 2672 05:42:59,320 --> 05:42:59,780 workload? 2673 05:43:00,980 --> 05:43:04,900 Yeah, I think there's always been some tension, but we have restructured to have a team 2674 05:43:04,900 --> 05:43:07,060 of people to support the advisory boards. 2675 05:43:07,060 --> 05:43:20,920 And I think it's always been a bit difficult with me saying, again, about these council having so many events and other things than just their normal meeting and subcommittee meetings. 2676 05:43:21,880 --> 05:43:29,000 Okay, and when would be the next opportunity to revisit that? Like if we were to move ahead with the three subcommittees today. 2677 05:43:29,860 --> 05:43:39,800 One would that next check-in point be just to see what that work load is feeling like and looking like and whether we do need to reevaluate and go down to the two. 2678 05:43:40,320 --> 05:43:48,440 There would be next year and last year we asked last year when the group had asked for three subcommittees we had asked at that time that it be two. 2679 05:43:48,740 --> 05:43:55,140 And we thought this would be a better time because the group is already talking about integrating two of their subcommittees. 2680 05:43:55,140 --> 05:44:02,160 Okay, and then maybe just to, um, to Angelina and Ellie, thoughts around two versus three. 2681 05:44:04,200 --> 05:44:04,840 I'm proud of it. 2682 05:44:04,860 --> 05:44:05,960 Thank you for that question. 2683 05:44:06,820 --> 05:44:10,460 So, once again, I get to summarize. 2684 05:44:10,840 --> 05:44:16,260 For policy, it's really about looking at policies, writing reports, some of that formal work, 2685 05:44:17,020 --> 05:44:21,100 projects being actualizing those policies, making them more concrete for youth, 2686 05:44:21,100 --> 05:44:27,740 and then internal being us organizing ourselves because of our large population with why 2687 05:44:27,740 --> 05:44:35,560 L members. Yes, we have talked with administration in a theory that we did have was to because 2688 05:44:35,560 --> 05:44:44,260 of collaboration again between subcommittees, consolidating them. The consensus or the best option 2689 05:44:44,260 --> 05:44:50,760 that we're currently at and mind you still being liberated within Council within our board is 2690 05:44:50,760 --> 05:44:57,780 just restructuring internal to make it a more efficient subcommittee, but we can definitely 2691 05:44:57,780 --> 05:44:59,760 take this advice back to our word. 2692 05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:15,860 And discussing more in-depth, but we'd have to like more meaningfully think about how we consolidate things. So the, so the different initiatives aren't lost and are still meaningfully given the attention within their specific subcommittee. 2693 05:45:16,560 --> 05:45:18,180 I'm out of time. 2694 05:45:18,880 --> 05:45:19,920 I'll come with you. 2695 05:45:20,220 --> 05:45:22,560 Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Wright. 2696 05:45:23,280 --> 05:45:24,200 Thank you very much. 2697 05:45:25,900 --> 05:45:28,720 Maybe first, Judy, 2698 05:45:30,740 --> 05:45:37,460 how many committee, or sorry, how many boards have more than one subcommittee? 2699 05:45:41,720 --> 05:45:51,380 I don't think, I think, with the four that we have in social development, I think the youth council is the only one that has more than one, okay? 2700 05:45:51,380 --> 05:46:00,760 Okay, that's, and yeah, I mean, the ones that we've gone through today too, I think, even the ones outside of your area of responsibility, I think only had it the most one. 2701 05:46:01,560 --> 05:46:02,700 So, thank you. 2702 05:46:02,940 --> 05:46:07,580 And so, I guess then, I 2703 05:46:09,980 --> 05:46:22,040 guess my, my question is, yeah, can you, I'm looking at side number 14 and you've got, as part of your internal subcommittee is public relations and networking. 2704 05:46:22,900 --> 05:46:37,340 So is it networking maybe part of your projects and then I'm thinking public relations, is that more just communications and you're already doing that on social media and that? 2705 05:46:37,940 --> 05:46:39,760 Yeah, I can begin to take this question. 2706 05:46:39,760 --> 05:46:43,040 So the idea of the reasoning like the networking event 2707 05:46:43,040 --> 05:46:47,460 does fall under, because the way 2708 05:46:47,460 --> 05:46:49,320 the internal structure that originally is, 2709 05:46:49,320 --> 05:46:52,220 I was more focused on sort of events 2710 05:46:52,220 --> 05:46:55,160 that promote member while being member sort of training 2711 05:46:55,960 --> 05:46:58,080 and opportunities for personal development. 2712 05:46:59,000 --> 05:47:00,960 And so, again, like we said, 2713 05:47:01,100 --> 05:47:02,980 I think we are looking at restructuring that. 2714 05:47:03,240 --> 05:47:04,340 So I guess in future terms, 2715 05:47:04,520 --> 05:47:06,720 networking will probably move to something like projects. 2716 05:47:06,720 --> 05:47:11,160 But that's kind of the reason why it's in there. 2717 05:47:11,600 --> 05:47:12,560 And then as for public relations, 2718 05:47:12,900 --> 05:47:14,580 this is kind of what we're getting at as well. 2719 05:47:14,900 --> 05:47:18,920 I'm in regards to sort of like what we need, 2720 05:47:19,080 --> 05:47:22,200 what kind of need from the internal subcommittee moving forward. 2721 05:47:22,700 --> 05:47:26,720 We do still need some sort of mechanism to look after things like 2722 05:47:27,320 --> 05:47:29,000 public relations, how we connect to, 2723 05:47:30,000 --> 05:47:32,220 how we engage with our actual, 2724 05:47:33,200 --> 05:47:34,360 the population that we're serving. 2725 05:47:34,360 --> 05:47:42,520 And so the way that we're looking to restructure in like making internalist smaller subcommittee would address that. 2726 05:47:44,320 --> 05:47:58,000 Okay, I guess all good. I'll just add one more point. So with public relations, it's still about establishing that administrative body for the entire board because of our large population with why I'll members. 2727 05:47:58,940 --> 05:48:07,580 And that's a large group to just for us as co-chairs to handle, which is why we need the internal or the public relations piece. 2728 05:48:08,260 --> 05:48:12,920 Also with internal, another thing that they organize and usually have in the past, 2729 05:48:13,100 --> 05:48:23,960 we just haven't this particular year, is training opportunities like we've done workshops around tech, indigenous awareness, 2730 05:48:30,700 --> 05:48:51,210 I don't know, it might serve you well to look at how some of the other committees that we've heard from today, sort of structure there's your just wave that was just here was talking about like they've got a couple people doing communications because they no longer have 2731 05:48:51,210 --> 05:48:55,350 of peridose contract doing that, 2732 05:49:00,590 --> 05:49:03,390 and I'm just, you know, and the same thing with accessibility 2733 05:49:03,390 --> 05:49:10,710 advisory committee as well. Again, you know, they lost that contract so that, yeah, they're 2734 05:49:10,710 --> 05:49:19,590 just having people within, and okay, so I kind of want to get off the subcommittee track 2735 05:49:19,590 --> 05:49:27,190 because I really, I think you've been provided some guidance to from Judy Smith and her department 2736 05:49:27,190 --> 05:49:33,290 as far as what might be possible with the two committees, but I, I do just have another 2737 05:49:33,290 --> 05:49:40,690 question in regards to Angel, where you said you've tapped into EPSB, and I'm just wondering 2738 05:49:40,690 --> 05:49:46,550 about what about evidence in Catholic and Frank, Frank, a phone, is school boards. 2739 05:49:47,950 --> 05:49:54,170 That is something we're still figuring out connections to because unfortunately with our current 2740 05:49:54,170 --> 05:49:59,890 member basis we don't have explicit connections to that so we're in the process of forming 2741 05:49:59,890 --> 05:50:05,110 those connections because for certain communities of certain initiatives might have information 2742 05:50:05,110 --> 05:50:11,190 to send out and invites so those are connections that are being established but with EPSB with 2743 05:50:11,190 --> 05:50:15,250 our member population we just we already have those mates so it's a little more convenient 2744 05:50:15,250 --> 05:50:24,740 but the others are in the works so you only have members from EPSB for the most part yes yes and also like a higher 2745 05:50:25,370 --> 05:50:31,970 no EPSB as far as high school population and like 13 to 18 is concerned and then we have 2746 05:50:31,970 --> 05:50:38,020 university students like 18 to 23 from U of A and McEwen okay okay my time's up sorry 2747 05:50:38,020 --> 05:50:40,120 Councillor Tain? 2748 05:50:41,080 --> 05:51:02,220 Yeah, great. Thank you for the presentation and the report. If I look at your work plan and some of your goals, I guess I'm curious, like your go number one, mobilize youth on local issues through community events and projects, go number two, empower youth through education, skill building and experience to be active citizens. 2749 05:51:03,680 --> 05:51:08,260 They're all, you know, excellent goals, but they also feel very service delivery to me. 2750 05:51:09,920 --> 05:51:19,260 I guess I'm wondering if you can distinguish a little bit of that versus sort of the advisory role you should be playing. 2751 05:51:20,600 --> 05:51:26,260 Let's give us a second to pull up our workpoints so we can answer that particular one. 2752 05:51:27,000 --> 05:51:28,780 You can take that first. 2753 05:51:29,800 --> 05:51:31,820 First goal and second. 2754 05:51:35,520 --> 05:51:43,380 I can see you're concerned with it, but it still balances out in accordance to our mandate. 2755 05:51:43,380 --> 05:51:52,820 school for as first of first of mobilizing youth on local issues, informing youth in order to engage 2756 05:51:52,820 --> 05:51:57,260 the meaningfully as an important part of our mandate. So it's kind of setting that ground up 2757 05:51:57,260 --> 05:52:04,400 for them to then comment meaningfully on policy and then be capable of inviting in the first place. 2758 05:52:05,040 --> 05:52:10,220 So that's I've said the goal one is that's it might seem surface level but it's important 2759 05:52:10,220 --> 05:52:16,340 foundational work, so then students and young people in general can then go on to advice 2760 05:52:16,340 --> 05:52:22,160 folks, so it's that empowering and educational aspect, whereas goal to empowering you through 2761 05:52:22,160 --> 05:52:27,660 education, that's where we have our networking initiative. That one's more so to promote 2762 05:52:27,660 --> 05:52:29,980 member well-being, and then once again, too. 2763 05:52:30,000 --> 05:52:36,160 Making the time to create the space and community. So students can lend those project management skills. 2764 05:52:36,880 --> 05:52:49,500 And it's also in CYC and in our outreach. It's also important for us to give young people a safe space to first come try new things related to policy, fail. 2765 05:52:49,800 --> 05:52:53,900 And then we're also there to support them to and keep them committed to the policy. 2766 05:52:53,900 --> 05:53:01,120 But I wouldn't say surface level, I'd say more so foundational, so they're able to come back and get more meaningful critiques. 2767 05:53:01,760 --> 05:53:02,840 I hope that kind of answers it. 2768 05:53:03,740 --> 05:53:13,120 Yeah, and although it also sounds like you're outreach largely, you know, in for those who are still in the public, 2769 05:53:13,120 --> 05:53:21,220 or sorry, I guess pre-University are largely EPSB, for example, 2770 05:53:23,440 --> 05:53:25,920 yeah, I guess I appreciate your 2771 05:53:25,920 --> 05:53:31,640 point about setting the foundation. I think this has been like worry with the use of council 2772 05:53:31,640 --> 05:53:38,640 all along, as you know, does it get unwieldy with 89 members, with various subcommittees, 2773 05:53:43,100 --> 05:53:43,100 with 2774 05:53:45,400 --> 05:53:54,180 One thing I can comment on that or two things is with CLIC, I must say the demographics change quite a bit year to year. 2775 05:53:54,840 --> 05:53:59,680 I think in the last few terms we were more a high school age demographic. 2776 05:54:00,180 --> 05:54:04,160 But right now we've aged to be late high school early university. 2777 05:54:04,460 --> 05:54:06,120 That's majority of her demographic. 2778 05:54:06,780 --> 05:54:10,340 So it's kind of difficult to comment because it does cycle to it. 2779 05:54:11,240 --> 05:54:19,900 But I must say, once again, for the subcommittee structure, it's really just meaningful for us as far as personal organization goes. 2780 05:54:20,380 --> 05:54:39,840 And even though we have 60 to 80 members, once again, if fluctuates throughout the year, because Wiles have less commitment to the more versus or 20 BCM, which are more committed, but we have lots of Wiles that will spend a year to gain those foundational skills and then come to the BCM. 2781 05:54:39,840 --> 05:54:47,000 So it is important for us to organize ourselves that way and it aids us as chairs to 2782 05:54:47,000 --> 05:54:51,120 have a list population and then also for folks to move comfortably around the council. 2783 05:54:52,080 --> 05:54:57,620 And I have just my full of my last minute, just on this question of, you know, three 2784 05:54:57,620 --> 05:55:02,540 concept committees or less so that it's more manageable for administration support. 2785 05:55:04,560 --> 05:55:12,560 I like to move to amend the three to two, and if I were to do that, I guess which two would you keep? 2786 05:55:14,060 --> 05:55:15,180 Can I ask a quick question? 2787 05:55:15,460 --> 05:55:16,720 There's only 30 seconds. 2788 05:55:17,480 --> 05:55:23,760 Would it folks be more comfortable with the fact if we didn't call the internal subcommittee a subcommittee 2789 05:55:23,760 --> 05:55:25,560 and like a working group? 2790 05:55:25,560 --> 05:55:31,220 because it's really, like, is that the tension rates, it's more so the meeting support in all that. 2791 05:55:32,020 --> 05:55:32,280 Right? 2792 05:55:33,360 --> 05:55:33,620 Administration. 2793 05:55:34,680 --> 05:55:38,100 I have, like, 10 seconds. I guess maybe 2794 05:55:39,340 --> 05:55:42,620 Judy, if you want to respond to that question. 2795 05:55:44,040 --> 05:55:49,780 So in the structure and probably the office of the city clerk would be better to answer this, 2796 05:55:49,780 --> 05:55:56,320 But in the structure, it is supposed to be a main advisory board and subcommittees working groups 2797 05:55:56,320 --> 05:56:02,560 are not kind of part of the structure of the advisory boards, because all of it has to 2798 05:56:02,560 --> 05:56:05,420 be transparent and live-streamed in all those pieces. 2799 05:56:06,100 --> 05:56:13,000 So I think it's a bit of the workload and making sure that the actions as Councilor Tang 2800 05:56:13,000 --> 05:56:17,020 was saying align with the mandate of the advisory board. 2801 05:56:18,680 --> 05:56:23,210 Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Rice. 2802 05:56:25,310 --> 05:56:31,690 Thank you for the presentation report and also the work plan for the TIS-25. I actually 2803 05:56:31,690 --> 05:56:37,830 have really like your answer and to look at is data of look at the surface and actually 2804 05:56:37,830 --> 05:56:45,670 is refract the your mandate, the alignment with your mandate and also fundamental pieces 2805 05:56:45,670 --> 05:56:52,570 there. So I think that's actually just my question, and then I appreciate that answer. 2806 05:56:54,330 --> 05:56:59,950 I do have another question, and from previous waves reports, talk about the collaboration. 2807 05:57:00,690 --> 05:57:07,170 So it's great to say those advisory boards to work together and collaborate who would be 2808 05:57:07,170 --> 05:57:09,970 you achieve some goals together. 2809 05:57:10,470 --> 05:57:14,630 So can you describe a little bit more about 2810 05:57:14,630 --> 05:57:17,610 how you collaborate really to really work with, 2811 05:57:17,610 --> 05:57:19,450 like wave, so for example. 2812 05:57:20,070 --> 05:57:22,150 And then because right now we're talking about 2813 05:57:22,150 --> 05:57:24,010 the street subcommittees, maybe you can 2814 05:57:24,010 --> 05:57:27,150 from that functionality perspective, and it's 2815 05:57:27,150 --> 05:57:30,110 talk about, and as you're collaborating, work 2816 05:57:30,110 --> 05:57:32,610 and it was different at a advisory group. 2817 05:57:35,290 --> 05:57:38,730 Yeah, I can, I guess we'll begin the response to that. 2818 05:57:39,530 --> 05:57:42,410 So in regards to collaboration, we typically, 2819 05:57:42,550 --> 05:57:45,610 I think I deal with what we do is reach out to our liaisons 2820 05:57:45,610 --> 05:57:48,170 and use that to connect with other boards. 2821 05:57:48,730 --> 05:57:50,370 So there are one of the challenges that we've been facing, 2822 05:57:50,670 --> 05:57:53,930 especially in the previous couple of recent terms, 2823 05:57:54,330 --> 05:57:56,030 that we'd have a lot of administrative turnover. 2824 05:57:56,990 --> 05:57:59,230 And so that has been, that has certainly been a challenge. 2825 05:57:59,230 --> 05:58:09,790 Both in terms of collaboration and also with, I guess, with some of the structural things and like what sort of admin or strain looks like as well, which we'll probably get into later. 2826 05:58:10,610 --> 05:58:17,990 But in terms of, like, I guess the concrete things that we have done recently, we have been in contact with wave in particular 2827 05:58:20,200 --> 05:58:22,420 and jump things like social media internally. 2828 05:58:22,460 --> 05:58:25,740 I think we've talked about that at the end of the prison for questions as well. 2829 05:58:25,740 --> 05:58:33,240 And so that's one sort of avenue that we've gone down, and then we're also like we've also had internally 2830 05:58:33,240 --> 05:58:38,900 been discussing a lot around bringing up some of the things that we're both particularly 2831 05:58:38,900 --> 05:58:39,600 passionate about. 2832 05:58:39,760 --> 05:58:46,140 So one of the, one of the, we're considering connecting with wave on their sort of perspective 2833 05:58:46,140 --> 05:58:47,600 on the public spaces by law. 2834 05:58:48,060 --> 05:58:51,800 That ultimately didn't happen just because of time restraints, but all of these things 2835 05:58:51,800 --> 05:58:59,480 do so often at the background. So I guess, yeah, another quick detail apart from, so yes, there's 2836 05:58:59,480 --> 05:59:05,860 been administrative turnover, so it's been difficult to establish and continue the connection 2837 05:59:05,860 --> 05:59:11,360 with other councils, but it's that's been considerably better this year. Secondly, just 2838 05:59:11,360 --> 05:59:17,480 slow details on what we have done. So I think our first touch point with the other committees was 2839 05:59:17,480 --> 05:59:20,140 when we were talking about the budget, fall budget. 2840 05:59:20,700 --> 05:59:22,940 So when we met with the mayor, all the chairs did. 2841 05:59:23,200 --> 05:59:25,460 And that was great conversations there, 2842 05:59:25,580 --> 05:59:26,640 learned a lot for folks. 2843 05:59:27,440 --> 05:59:29,720 And since then, there've been some emails back and forth. 2844 05:59:29,780 --> 05:59:31,780 It's just kind of continuing that connection. 2845 05:59:32,720 --> 05:59:35,360 A lot of conversations about how people are handling 2846 05:59:35,360 --> 05:59:36,680 their social media. 2847 05:59:37,920 --> 05:59:40,380 We've, you know, on and off, casually discuss, 2848 05:59:40,680 --> 05:59:44,540 like, maybe we can do a crossover monthly meeting 2849 05:59:44,540 --> 05:59:45,500 or something like that. 2850 05:59:45,500 --> 05:59:47,860 that's just hasn't come to fruition yet, 2851 05:59:48,520 --> 05:59:50,820 but now that we have established this connection, 2852 05:59:50,980 --> 05:59:52,720 I think the chairs from all councils 2853 05:59:53,180 --> 05:59:55,680 are going to continue to work to make it 2854 05:59:55,680 --> 05:59:58,960 a more meaningful collaboration than it has been. 2855 05:59:59,580 --> 05:59:59,800 Yes. 2856 06:00:00,270 --> 06:00:07,170 Okay, thank you for that answer. And based on that information provided, I'm going to ask an administration, 2857 06:00:09,410 --> 06:00:27,890 if the infuser is collaboration between the different itemizer committees. Does that mean, and from efficiency perspective for certain subcommittee and is there, is there any, like, functionality over the app? 2858 06:00:27,890 --> 06:00:31,690 or you still say they're still separate, 2859 06:00:31,970 --> 06:00:34,190 they do need their own subcommittees. 2860 06:00:34,810 --> 06:00:36,770 So I just want to look at it from that perspective. 2861 06:00:37,890 --> 06:00:39,750 And I know my question is a little longer, Judy, 2862 06:00:40,170 --> 06:00:41,990 and I want to finish, like give you a slide. 2863 06:00:42,070 --> 06:00:43,390 A lot of related ones, 2864 06:00:43,670 --> 06:00:45,650 because the term change for this student, 2865 06:00:45,930 --> 06:00:47,290 and I actually, I support that. 2866 06:00:47,350 --> 06:00:49,810 I do understand how school work impact 2867 06:00:49,810 --> 06:00:53,830 is their capacity to involve more effectively. 2868 06:00:53,830 --> 06:01:03,430 So, how that link to this three or two subcommittees, so maybe you can explain a little more about that piece? 2869 06:01:04,550 --> 06:01:19,210 Sure, I think we have an opportunity with our new advisory board coordination team to really create some connections between all of the boards, because it's the same team that will be supporting them all, so it won't be a different individual, it will be a team working together. 2870 06:01:19,210 --> 06:01:24,350 So I think there's an opportunity to look, I can't speak without us having some real conversations 2871 06:01:24,350 --> 06:01:29,430 about it, whether that'll diminish the number of subcommittees, because they're each unique. 2872 06:01:30,010 --> 06:01:34,790 They're each unique advisory boards, as you've seen throughout today, all with different levels 2873 06:01:34,790 --> 06:01:39,770 of compassion and enthusiasm and hard work and dedication. 2874 06:01:40,270 --> 06:01:45,890 But I think we've already talked numerous times as a team about finding opportunities to 2875 06:01:45,890 --> 06:01:51,690 folks together. So you can count on that happening. Okay, thank you. My time is up. 2876 06:01:51,810 --> 06:01:54,450 Councillor Nat? Thank. Thanks, Councillor Selvedor. 2877 06:01:56,690 --> 06:01:58,310 Sorry, it's been a few years since I've been 2878 06:01:58,310 --> 06:02:05,390 on youth council. So I just, I wanted to, I feel like I'm, maybe I'll ask our team from youth 2879 06:02:05,390 --> 06:02:08,930 council and then I'll go to administration after, because I feel like we're getting caught up 2880 06:02:08,930 --> 06:02:13,650 on the internal subcommittee piece. But like, the way I understood the internal subcommittee and I 2881 06:02:13,650 --> 06:02:17,950 I think you described it, but I'm going to just, like, it is truly just, like, internal 2882 06:02:17,950 --> 06:02:19,190 governance stuff. 2883 06:02:19,690 --> 06:02:27,250 Like, I'm not sure why that requires a public streaming of a meeting or resources. 2884 06:02:27,970 --> 06:02:30,510 Like, that just feels like stuff that almost every community does. 2885 06:02:30,630 --> 06:02:34,970 You happen to formalize it a little bit more and make sure you can document that and report 2886 06:02:34,970 --> 06:02:35,310 back. 2887 06:02:35,930 --> 06:02:39,190 Like, is that still sort of how it operates? 2888 06:02:39,190 --> 06:02:51,190 So my from the youth council perspective or am I missing something to do to do share something that I mean, I just want to understand because I feel like maybe what you've written on your slide is a little different side. 2889 06:02:53,170 --> 06:03:07,250 I think you summarized it pretty accurately. It's about internal governance organizing ourselves and the subcommittee structure just allows us to formalize and keep members accountable for tasks. 2890 06:03:07,250 --> 06:03:15,450 Okay, and so maybe the confusion is the slide because again, like it's talking about public relations and networking, but like that's actually falls within 2891 06:03:16,230 --> 06:03:18,610 I mean more of the 2892 06:03:18,610 --> 06:03:27,650 I would guess the the projects right if you're doing a networking event on a topic. You're you're probably doing that more through projects versus the internal right 2893 06:03:27,650 --> 06:03:29,610 Currently, it's through the internal 2894 06:03:29,610 --> 06:03:30,450 Is it okay? 2895 06:03:30,750 --> 06:03:34,510 Is networking it's okay. It's also geared around member wellness. 2896 06:03:35,510 --> 06:03:35,670 Okay 2897 06:03:35,670 --> 06:03:36,590 Okay 2898 06:03:38,170 --> 06:03:43,350 So maybe okay so now I see maybe where the confusion is because like I mean I guess to me 2899 06:03:43,350 --> 06:03:47,090 it's just sort of like 6 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 the other you're going to do that anyways 2900 06:03:47,630 --> 06:03:52,530 and if that's what it takes let's throw those categories of a networking event in the 2901 06:03:52,530 --> 06:03:56,910 project and then I would ask and so I'm maybe this is going to be a question to the 2902 06:03:56,910 --> 06:04:01,230 administration like they're going to be doing that whether they throw it in the internal 2903 06:04:01,230 --> 06:04:04,090 or whether they throw it in the project one. 2904 06:04:05,170 --> 06:04:08,250 So should be just formally shift that over 2905 06:04:08,250 --> 06:04:10,630 and then you don't have to worry about sending staff resources 2906 06:04:10,630 --> 06:04:12,050 to an internal committee meeting. 2907 06:04:12,250 --> 06:04:15,250 Like, that feels like an inefficient use of resources, 2908 06:04:15,790 --> 06:04:17,990 but like they should still do that work as a committee. 2909 06:04:18,350 --> 06:04:20,430 That's what I think every committee still does. 2910 06:04:21,490 --> 06:04:23,370 My understanding counts are an act. 2911 06:04:23,590 --> 06:04:29,150 It's duty SNF is that we are responsible to be at any committee 2912 06:04:29,150 --> 06:04:35,590 or subcommittee, just excuse me, just like council and council committees to be there to take 2913 06:04:36,270 --> 06:04:36,750 minutes. 2914 06:04:36,890 --> 06:04:37,070 Yeah. 2915 06:04:37,070 --> 06:04:42,050 And to live stream that no matter what the purpose is, so how do you get started? 2916 06:04:42,650 --> 06:04:45,050 Yeah, so I guess the question is, how do we fix that? 2917 06:04:45,090 --> 06:04:51,210 Because that feels a little like a waste of your time to live stream an internal governance 2918 06:04:51,210 --> 06:04:58,490 meeting for a committee, so can we just like give you a direction to say, hey, don't, don't, 2919 06:04:58,490 --> 06:05:03,350 Maybe you don't have to be at like every single little thing because some of those things might just not make sense. 2920 06:05:03,930 --> 06:05:10,130 Well, I think we're aligned with all the rules that Council has to follow, too. So that's why that's why I think we're willing. 2921 06:05:10,470 --> 06:05:15,590 We would work with the, with the youth council to figure it out whatever your decision is. 2922 06:05:16,190 --> 06:05:20,410 Okay. Yeah, because I don't know. I guess, and like I heard the MGA piece, I understand that I guess. 2923 06:05:20,410 --> 06:05:26,850 just like nothing's going to change whether there's three or two because they're just going to 2924 06:05:26,850 --> 06:05:32,070 do the same work, maybe it changes the frequency of the number of meetings but it might change 2925 06:05:32,070 --> 06:05:35,730 the length of another meeting and so I'm just trying to figure out what's the cleanest way to get 2926 06:05:35,730 --> 06:05:40,250 there but I haven't helped myself by any of the questions so I'm going to leave it there thank you. 2927 06:05:41,030 --> 06:05:45,830 Councillor Stevenson. Yeah I just want to dig into that a little bit for there as well and 2928 06:05:46,770 --> 06:05:50,830 And my correct and understanding that the requirements for live streaming is through the MGA 2929 06:05:51,590 --> 06:05:53,430 for advisory boards of council. 2930 06:05:53,830 --> 06:05:54,850 It's that they have to be in public. 2931 06:05:55,370 --> 06:05:58,350 So perhaps try to help this a little bit. 2932 06:05:58,730 --> 06:06:03,050 If members of a committee are going to do work and tasks just as you prepare for meetings, that's fine. 2933 06:06:03,230 --> 06:06:07,550 It's when they gather as a group and make decisions and something that looks like a meeting, but that has to be a public. 2934 06:06:08,830 --> 06:06:12,710 So maybe just to the representatives in those internal organizing meetings, 2935 06:06:12,710 --> 06:06:16,230 do pass motions or resolutions? 2936 06:06:19,570 --> 06:06:25,970 Yes. And yes, in those meetings, like for example, for 2937 06:06:25,970 --> 06:06:31,710 it internal, they would work on like their initiative proposals because currently we still 2938 06:06:31,710 --> 06:06:36,710 do have that initiative proposals structure so they'd work on it and then they'd bring it to 2939 06:06:36,710 --> 06:06:42,690 our general assembly, our monthly meeting, to have it officially passed there. And then other than 2940 06:06:42,690 --> 06:06:45,410 that it would be like, any Instagram posts they made, 2941 06:06:45,570 --> 06:06:46,890 they'd work through it, 2942 06:06:47,050 --> 06:06:49,690 but they would quote unquote approve it internally 2943 06:06:49,690 --> 06:06:52,490 in that group and that initiative 2944 06:06:52,960 --> 06:06:54,890 and then formally pass it at GA. 2945 06:06:55,530 --> 06:07:00,010 But not every single Instagram post needs to be passed at GA. 2946 06:07:00,570 --> 06:07:04,410 It can be passed in that internal subcommittee, right, me. 2947 06:07:04,610 --> 06:07:09,410 Yeah, so I mean, those don't seem like governance decisions. 2948 06:07:11,890 --> 06:07:24,430 Yeah, so I'm just wondering, again, maybe the interpretation of that subcommittee, if we can just remove the design, like I think it was suggested earlier. 2949 06:07:24,970 --> 06:07:29,970 I mean, it's just a function of the group. They're not doing anything that sounds like... 2950 06:07:30,000 --> 06:07:35,400 I think it needs to be minuteed because the things that need to be minuteed for formal approval happen at the General Assembly. 2951 06:07:37,260 --> 06:07:39,140 Is that fair, maybe to? 2952 06:07:40,220 --> 06:07:41,660 Yeah, we would say that's fair. 2953 06:07:42,000 --> 06:07:52,840 I guess the reason why we've been pushy on this is just because we do, our current understanding is that we won't be able to continue this work unless we have this sort of subcommittee like roll there. 2954 06:07:53,300 --> 06:07:55,980 Just so that we are able to come together and meet and do it together. 2955 06:07:55,980 --> 06:08:01,780 But if there is like a way forward where that isn't a concern, then we'd be more than happy with that. 2956 06:08:02,180 --> 06:08:04,040 Yeah, so it's a labeling issue. 2957 06:08:04,300 --> 06:08:05,960 We're happy to call it something else. 2958 06:08:06,360 --> 06:08:07,260 Yeah, well, maybe to Judy. 2959 06:08:07,500 --> 06:08:22,720 So if we had a commitment that this subcommittee was, or sorry, this function of internal organization was not passing formal motions that weren't subsequently brought towards the general assembly. 2960 06:08:22,720 --> 06:08:30,160 Does that then follow outside of the criteria that that's needed or you know that's outlined in the MGA? 2961 06:08:30,820 --> 06:08:39,220 I would have to defer to the Office of the City Clerk because we just provide the support that we're directed through through them. 2962 06:08:39,680 --> 06:08:41,140 So I'd ask one of them to respond. 2963 06:08:41,780 --> 06:08:51,080 Okay, and if we can't respond right now, I'll like that's fair, but I think the path forward might be that if we're hearing from administration that they have the resources to support 2964 06:08:51,080 --> 06:08:56,060 two subcommittees, truly having meetings with those associated governance requirements that 2965 06:08:56,060 --> 06:09:00,240 not as a path forward and as an offline action item between the youth council and the 2966 06:09:00,240 --> 06:09:03,700 civic agencies team and administration, we can look at them as what are functions that 2967 06:09:03,700 --> 06:09:07,380 are being performed and what actually needs to be done at a meeting, because you know what 2968 06:09:07,380 --> 06:09:13,780 I'm even thinking of, you know, council will occasionally have lunch and learns and we're 2969 06:09:13,780 --> 06:09:21,060 all together, but we're not making decisions, there's nothing formal, so okay, so in that 2970 06:09:21,060 --> 06:09:28,400 then I think just for clarity I would move that we strike three subcommittees and replace that 2971 06:09:28,400 --> 06:09:38,380 with two second and as a great please introduce introduction so so just to to the youth council 2972 06:09:38,380 --> 06:09:42,960 of our representatives you know absolutely really support what you're saying I think the way you 2973 06:09:42,960 --> 06:09:47,200 have structured your workflow makes a lot of sense we're just wanting to ensure that we're managing 2974 06:09:47,200 --> 06:09:53,760 resources on our staff side, but I think you've heard there's a commitment to working to ensure 2975 06:09:53,760 --> 06:10:01,180 that you can still meet to have those functions perform those functions, but that it can reduce 2976 06:10:01,180 --> 06:10:06,880 the demand on staff. I think that's probably best for everyone because there's probably probably 2977 06:10:06,880 --> 06:10:12,320 probably don't love being live streamed for whatever reason for some of those more bread and butter 2978 06:10:12,320 --> 06:10:17,420 type conversations, so that would be the intent of this that you would still be able to continue 2979 06:10:17,420 --> 06:10:23,100 to do that work that you would have the space and abilities to do that, while we're 2980 06:10:23,100 --> 06:10:25,720 also sort of reducing that work load on our staff. 2981 06:10:26,160 --> 06:10:27,140 Thank you. 2982 06:10:27,380 --> 06:10:28,680 Can we ask a question? 2983 06:10:29,700 --> 06:10:35,180 I could ask you if you wished to add any thoughts? 2984 06:10:36,460 --> 06:10:39,380 Yes, I comment, I suppose. 2985 06:10:39,380 --> 06:10:53,020 With the internal subject, the only issue that I foresee coming to changing this structure is as far as like formal approval of Post's concern. 2986 06:10:53,240 --> 06:11:08,580 I guess we would appreciate a commitment from administration going forward that things like informative posts on work that our initiatives are doing, which is just sharing information, which is approved at GA. 2987 06:11:08,580 --> 06:11:15,080 but then will there be, I guess, like bureaucratic delays and getting posts and information 2988 06:11:15,080 --> 06:11:19,700 out through our Instagram because would we have to like work the whole month to make Instagram 2989 06:11:19,700 --> 06:11:24,840 posts and then approve it at that one meeting or could the working group just go ahead because 2990 06:11:24,840 --> 06:11:28,800 that if we have to wait monthly that would be an issue. But that's the only thing. 2991 06:11:28,820 --> 06:11:34,160 And I think we could look to other boards and agencies about how they manage their social 2992 06:11:34,160 --> 06:11:41,940 I don't believe that social posts necessarily have to have full formal approval, so it could 2993 06:11:41,940 --> 06:11:47,120 be that you develop a social media policy that, you know, X number, people have to sign 2994 06:11:47,120 --> 06:11:51,280 off an approval post before it's posted, but it's not necessarily a formal action of the 2995 06:11:51,280 --> 06:11:52,720 body would be a thought. 2996 06:11:53,200 --> 06:11:53,620 I'll stop. 2997 06:11:53,800 --> 06:11:54,440 Thank you, Chair. 2998 06:11:54,820 --> 06:11:55,940 Yeah, I appreciate that point. 2999 06:11:56,360 --> 06:11:56,760 Councillor Rutherford? 3000 06:11:59,460 --> 06:12:04,280 I just, yeah, I just went on the board because I could see that the youth council looked 3001 06:12:04,280 --> 06:12:08,800 they had some comments or questions, so I was just going to ask them about their thoughts on 3002 06:12:08,800 --> 06:12:16,920 this motion, then in responding to Councillor Stevens, and I think there is a bigger 3003 06:12:16,920 --> 06:12:23,480 conversation here, and I guess how much social media is youth council doing, 3004 06:12:26,850 --> 06:12:27,130 because I 3005 06:12:27,130 --> 06:12:31,630 really like a lot of work, and I don't know if that actually meets your mandate. 3006 06:12:34,030 --> 06:12:38,530 Okay, we're a good chance of apologies for the early intreption. 3007 06:12:39,650 --> 06:12:43,970 Currently, a lot of it is about educating and sharing information. 3008 06:12:44,910 --> 06:12:49,350 And in the past two to three terms, with governance restriction and administrative turnover, 3009 06:12:49,990 --> 06:12:52,490 it has been slower than we'd like it to be. 3010 06:12:53,530 --> 06:12:55,510 But we would like to do more. 3011 06:12:55,530 --> 06:12:59,290 We'd like to update, use, on what city council is doing. 3012 06:12:59,850 --> 06:13:02,190 They might not always be watching these public hearings 3013 06:13:02,190 --> 06:13:06,810 and, you know, attending these online meetings, but we can make quick info lights to keep 3014 06:13:06,810 --> 06:13:12,590 folks up with things. I think that would very much be, you know, excuse me, my, my, my, my 3015 06:13:12,590 --> 06:13:18,770 that, um, meeting our mandate of educating young people and also, secondly, our own presence, 3016 06:13:19,230 --> 06:13:24,030 which is, once again, administrative stuff like just updating our website. We'd like to make 3017 06:13:24,030 --> 06:13:30,110 our website a more useful resource. This was done a few terms ago, um, because the website contains 3018 06:13:30,110 --> 06:13:36,750 will information of us, but also external opportunities for students, and we are that liaison 3019 06:13:36,750 --> 06:13:42,790 that connects students and young people to scholarships, internships, and some information 3020 06:13:42,790 --> 06:13:43,570 around that. 3021 06:13:43,630 --> 06:13:49,470 So we'd like to breathe out that of it, but it really comes down to being a resource for young 3022 06:13:49,470 --> 06:13:52,350 people and which with that encouraged them to join youth council. 3023 06:13:52,810 --> 06:13:57,290 So we'd like to do a little more than we are currently doing, we're just restructuring 3024 06:13:57,290 --> 06:13:59,510 should do it in a effective and efficient way? 3025 06:14:02,800 --> 06:14:10,950 Yeah, and I guess my background, my history is that I actually 3026 06:14:10,950 --> 06:14:17,130 surrendered the youth council in Strathcona County for years, as the 3027 06:14:17,130 --> 06:14:18,390 admin supports. 3028 06:14:18,610 --> 06:14:19,190 I'm very familiar. 3029 06:14:19,310 --> 06:14:22,390 And actually it was much younger than Edmonton Youth Council 3030 06:14:22,390 --> 06:14:26,090 because that youth council was 12 to 17 year olds. 3031 06:14:26,090 --> 06:14:30,530 And so that was the age group of it, 3032 06:14:34,080 --> 06:14:37,900 and they did a lot of really effective advocacy work. 3033 06:14:38,040 --> 06:14:47,420 They did a lot of things, but I mean, I might be dating myself, but like at that time, it was like when I did that was from 2008 to 2013. 3034 06:14:48,520 --> 06:14:54,880 There was Facebook, but it wasn't really used by youth, really, at that point. They didn't use it a lot. 3035 06:15:00,910 --> 06:15:14,890 And they still got education out. They still look at all of those things. So I guess I'm just trying to understand if you're seeing you have capacity issues or you need these three subcommittees, you know, per what's on the floor before us as amendment. 3036 06:15:16,050 --> 06:15:21,910 I know like other other committees had to think about scaling back what that looks like. 3037 06:15:21,910 --> 06:15:24,110 Yes, advisory board has done that. 3038 06:15:24,150 --> 06:15:25,850 Wave has done that. 3039 06:15:27,170 --> 06:15:33,830 I'm sure others that I'm not as accessibility advisory, I think, has scaled back to. 3040 06:15:34,670 --> 06:15:38,590 Has the youth council looked at scaling back or focusing? 3041 06:15:39,550 --> 06:15:48,150 Is there a platform that really youth are engaged in, and that's where you should be focusing your energy and effort on, as opposed to all the platforms? 3042 06:15:49,850 --> 06:15:55,110 Yeah, so I guess, like, I guess, first addressing the broader question of, like, scaling back. 3043 06:15:55,890 --> 06:16:02,830 I think in 2021, or 2020, we did actually move down from four so communities down to three. 3044 06:16:03,050 --> 06:16:04,770 That's how we have this infrastructure. 3045 06:16:05,350 --> 06:16:10,690 And it's kind of dated, but the other thing, the other, like, I guess, we're response. 3046 06:16:10,850 --> 06:16:17,510 So this is that youth council is also one of the only ones that has such a huge membership, if you include it. 3047 06:16:17,510 --> 06:16:28,750 not just the voting community members, but also the youth of large. And also just if you look at like the individuals that make up or committee, they're often very experienced. This is often very first time doing anything governance related. 3048 06:16:29,270 --> 06:16:36,010 To be honest, it might be the first time doing anything outside of school. And so because of all of that, like we do have a lot more I guess burden to sort of like. 3049 06:16:36,230 --> 06:16:41,370 There's more capacity building and development that happens on a youth council. Is that fair to say? 3050 06:16:42,110 --> 06:16:43,170 Yeah, for sure. 3051 06:16:44,790 --> 06:16:46,230 Okay, I'll leave it there. 3052 06:16:46,290 --> 06:16:48,490 I'll think about this amendment on the floor. 3053 06:16:48,630 --> 06:16:50,170 I'll move a second round. 3054 06:16:51,730 --> 06:16:51,950 Second. 3055 06:16:53,070 --> 06:16:53,400 Please vote. 3056 06:16:57,870 --> 06:16:58,150 Yes. 3057 06:16:58,950 --> 06:16:59,670 Thank you, Councillor Gents. 3058 06:17:03,160 --> 06:17:04,680 We have all the votes displayed about. 3059 06:17:14,400 --> 06:17:14,640 That's carried. 3060 06:17:14,880 --> 06:17:15,700 That's all right. 3061 06:17:16,980 --> 06:17:17,380 Thank you. 3062 06:17:17,900 --> 06:17:21,710 So you mentioned the subcommittees have less experience. 3063 06:17:22,440 --> 06:17:28,320 I'm wondering if it would be better for them to get the guidance of the broader 3064 06:17:28,320 --> 06:17:35,480 committee at working on some of these internal governance situations rather than them 3065 06:17:35,480 --> 06:17:39,460 just sort of being left on their own without that guidance. 3066 06:17:40,980 --> 06:17:42,740 And so not having it in a subcommittee. 3067 06:17:45,970 --> 06:17:47,930 Not sure if I understand the question. 3068 06:17:48,190 --> 06:17:53,270 So are you asking if like the things that happen inside of subcommittees to be done with 3069 06:17:53,270 --> 06:17:54,130 the entire board? 3070 06:17:54,550 --> 06:17:54,750 Yes. 3071 06:17:55,930 --> 06:18:02,390 So that rather than leaving those with less experience in the subcommittees working on things 3072 06:18:02,390 --> 06:18:06,810 that they can have the guidance of the larger broader committee. 3073 06:18:08,010 --> 06:18:13,410 Okay, so a couple of things to address, I think I may have maybe I just didn't explain this correctly, 3074 06:18:14,350 --> 06:18:22,490 but it's not like we do still have the use of large people who aren't just like formally part of the voting members of the board 3075 06:18:22,490 --> 06:18:25,810 coming to the larger committee, General Assembly as well. 3076 06:18:26,170 --> 06:18:28,530 And so that issue is sort of symmetrical in that sense, 3077 06:18:28,830 --> 06:18:30,530 so that happens on both ends. 3078 06:18:30,650 --> 06:18:31,950 And we do have voted committee members 3079 06:18:31,950 --> 06:18:33,990 at all the subcommittee meetings anyway. 3080 06:18:34,270 --> 06:18:35,350 So that's not really concerned. 3081 06:18:37,210 --> 06:18:40,030 Yeah, I think is there anything else like you want to say? 3082 06:18:41,050 --> 06:18:46,770 So point that I could add is support that we're under the impression 3083 06:18:48,250 --> 06:18:51,770 the entire, the entire board needs. 3084 06:18:51,770 --> 06:18:58,050 we do provide by discussing it at General Assembly, and then perhaps formally passing a motion for 3085 06:18:58,050 --> 06:19:04,590 everyone, like certain trainings, etc. encouraging people. But as far as initiating that work, 3086 06:19:05,010 --> 06:19:09,110 that will come out of the subcommittee and then it may or may not be applied to everyone. 3087 06:19:09,810 --> 06:19:18,030 So it's really the mechanism and the tool that we use to help, you know, a niche group or the whole 3088 06:19:18,030 --> 06:19:23,010 board, it still comes through that subcommittee structure because of the way it's organized. 3089 06:19:23,430 --> 06:19:32,130 But okay, but that's what I'm like, can you not reorganize it? Did you see guidance from either 3090 06:19:32,130 --> 06:19:39,390 your council advisors or administration or the clerk's office in regards to setting up this 3091 06:19:39,390 --> 06:19:42,950 three subcommittee proposal. 3092 06:19:44,390 --> 06:19:44,910 Yes. 3093 06:19:45,510 --> 06:19:47,270 And what advice did you receive? 3094 06:19:48,810 --> 06:19:48,830 Yeah. 3095 06:19:49,410 --> 06:19:52,170 This has been in, I think we've talked about this as well. 3096 06:19:52,650 --> 06:19:55,650 But we've been discussing this for like since last term at least. 3097 06:19:56,070 --> 06:19:57,230 Whereas far as I'm aware. 3098 06:19:58,150 --> 06:19:58,370 Yes. 3099 06:19:58,630 --> 06:20:02,030 And like we have heard the suggestion to bring it down to two securities. 3100 06:20:02,350 --> 06:20:08,110 That's why we've, like we came in here on talking about reducing the internal 3101 06:20:08,110 --> 06:20:12,570 are like shrinking the, I guess, couple of the internal subcommittee. And again, we are still 3102 06:20:12,570 --> 06:20:17,590 open to like, to shifting that to something else. If it, if it doesn't really require like the, 3103 06:20:17,590 --> 06:20:24,110 I guess the, the same things that a subcommittee would in terms of like, uh, streaming and having to 3104 06:20:24,110 --> 06:20:29,450 have someone there to take minutes. Um, but at the same time, we do still need that work to be done. 3105 06:20:29,610 --> 06:20:33,870 And currently, the understanding that we have is that in order to do so, we need this subcommittee model. 3106 06:20:33,870 --> 06:20:42,850 If that's not true, again, we're very open to changing that, but that's the reason why it's been like we've kept the structure that we have up to this point. 3107 06:20:43,570 --> 06:20:54,170 But that's, I think that's what sort of all of us are trying to get at is if you do it within the broader committee, you don't need all these subcommittees. 3108 06:20:55,250 --> 06:20:57,690 So you're willing to do that then. 3109 06:20:58,430 --> 06:21:05,210 No, because we don't have, we wouldn't have the time to be able to do all of this stuff in, like within the broader community out of things. 3110 06:21:06,170 --> 06:21:14,390 So, have you thought, have you considered then, as Councilor Rutherford, I think, is suggested in sort of reducing what you are doing. 3111 06:21:14,970 --> 06:21:18,670 And I guess, maybe being tighter with what your mandate is. 3112 06:21:20,090 --> 06:21:23,390 So to go back to a few earlier things, let's make a quick comment. 3113 06:21:24,290 --> 06:21:28,550 As far as interacting with admin liaison, it was a discussed. 3114 06:21:28,890 --> 06:21:33,870 We brought it to GA, we had our discussions, and rather than consolidating something 3115 06:21:33,870 --> 06:21:40,170 like projects in policy or projects in internal, it was, we really came up with restructuring 3116 06:21:40,170 --> 06:21:41,850 internal to make it more effective. 3117 06:21:41,850 --> 06:21:50,950 If this is really just a linguistic tip of the community, we're okay not calling the internal subcommittee a subcommittee, we could call it a working group. 3118 06:21:51,230 --> 06:21:58,270 And that would cut down at many times, but we would just like the formal commitment from administration that this would not cause bureaucratic delays. 3119 06:21:58,610 --> 06:22:12,670 But I think Judy has already said that working groups, there is no such thing as a working group because if it was a working group, then it would actually have to be a subcommittee and live stream. 3120 06:22:12,670 --> 06:22:20,970 And if it's work that can be done in the sort of the whole committee, then you've got 3121 06:22:20,970 --> 06:22:23,330 that admin support behind you. 3122 06:22:23,830 --> 06:22:24,970 And my time is up. 3123 06:22:27,380 --> 06:22:27,800 Councillor Stroud. 3124 06:22:28,760 --> 06:22:29,780 Councillor Stroud. 3125 06:22:29,780 --> 06:22:29,820 Councillor Stroud. 3126 06:22:32,180 --> 06:22:47,940 Thank you. Thank you. And two of you answered many questions and you did a great job. So I give you a little bit of break. I'm going, I'm going to say the administration first for the question and I come back to you. And then just take a brief. 3127 06:22:50,020 --> 06:22:57,740 So my question to Judy, Judy, you provide a lot of clarification here, thank you for that. 3128 06:22:58,360 --> 06:23:15,780 So my question is about for all of those advisory committees, like how many of them actually in their budget expenditure and hired outside consultants or communication company to support their social media, how many don't. 3129 06:23:15,780 --> 06:23:21,260 and basically for the youth council. So youth council, I assume in and based on what's information 3130 06:23:21,260 --> 06:23:25,860 the providers, they are not have any assistance from social media. They are doing their 3131 06:23:25,860 --> 06:23:27,720 social media by themselves, right? 3132 06:23:30,060 --> 06:23:33,360 Yes, that's correct. They're doing it by themselves. So how many 3133 06:23:34,740 --> 06:23:42,380 advisory committee has that budget spending on higher upside resources to support service social media? 3134 06:23:42,380 --> 06:23:53,040 I can only speak to the four advisory committees that are in social development and currently none of them have contracts to do social media through consultant. 3135 06:23:53,660 --> 06:24:04,240 We did have a consultant agreement previously that wasn't part of the advisory board budget. It was part of our branch budget and when that ended at the end of last year, we are not renewing that. 3136 06:24:04,240 --> 06:24:22,680 So we are trying to work within the corporation to figure out what kind of supports can be built in to support social media, as much as it's needed, but as Councillor Rutherford said, I think we're still unclear on how much social media is actually needed for advisory boards when the job is to advise council. 3137 06:24:22,680 --> 06:24:25,740 Okay, wonderful. Thank you for that answer. 3138 06:24:27,440 --> 06:24:29,800 So then my question come back. 3139 06:24:29,920 --> 06:24:34,400 Come back to the youth come so and thank you for both of you. 3140 06:24:34,580 --> 06:24:36,920 So I do not want to you feel so much pressure. 3141 06:24:37,640 --> 06:24:38,680 To answer my questions. 3142 06:24:39,080 --> 06:24:40,740 My question is in for this. 3143 06:24:40,820 --> 06:24:44,720 I understand the words this intention from my colleague put this 3144 06:24:44,720 --> 06:24:46,800 street and to the two. 3145 06:24:48,280 --> 06:24:56,620 So what's the key specific impact could be if we change from stress up communities to choose up communities? 3146 06:24:57,300 --> 06:25:02,660 Could you tell us a little bit what's the impact there? 3147 06:25:03,180 --> 06:25:05,280 And because I do not want you lose capacity. 3148 06:25:05,780 --> 06:25:13,660 I do not want you lose that motivation and to do some of the wonderful work and the title mandate. 3149 06:25:13,660 --> 06:25:18,720 but I do want to understand from your perspective what impact it could be. 3150 06:25:23,240 --> 06:25:31,320 Yeah, so I guess the way that I'll interpret like this scenario is that as that we'd lose, 3151 06:25:31,460 --> 06:25:36,600 like let's say the internal subcommittee, and then we'd also have nothing to replace it. 3152 06:25:37,420 --> 06:25:40,740 And I guess some of the tangible impacts of this is that we'd lose. 3153 06:25:40,980 --> 06:25:45,480 Again, one is just like directing engagement with like the actual people that were supposed to be representing. 3154 06:25:45,480 --> 06:25:50,580 So, like our connections for our, yeah, I get a direct engagement with the youth is just 3155 06:25:50,580 --> 06:25:51,400 to really impact it. 3156 06:25:51,660 --> 06:25:57,340 If we have like no mechanism to do so within our structure. 3157 06:25:58,680 --> 06:26:02,920 And then also just in terms of like an internal governance administrative work that like 3158 06:26:02,920 --> 06:26:07,740 we do within within the group, we just have far less control there. 3159 06:26:08,200 --> 06:26:13,640 And so, but like in terms of like tangible impacts, we probably see like either general assemblies 3160 06:26:13,640 --> 06:26:17,720 a lot more time is going into, of course, things like, oh, like, what does 3161 06:26:17,720 --> 06:26:21,560 member want? Well, being like, what sort of training should we, um, should 3162 06:26:21,560 --> 06:26:26,600 we be organizing, um, like what, like, all of these things that are 3163 06:26:26,600 --> 06:26:32,460 typically, um, delegated to, um, to a committee where there's, or to a, to 3164 06:26:32,460 --> 06:26:37,460 a subcommittee that, like, of people who don't, um, or away from 3165 06:26:37,460 --> 06:26:40,680 people who don't really need to be like involved in all this stuff would, would 3166 06:26:40,680 --> 06:26:45,840 to come into sort of the general discussion for everyone. And the fear with that is that it 3167 06:26:45,840 --> 06:26:51,700 cutting to our time for a lot of other things that we think are more important for our 3168 06:26:51,700 --> 06:26:52,060 institution. 3169 06:26:53,240 --> 06:26:58,400 Susan, thank you for that. My question, then my question, because there are two points 3170 06:26:58,400 --> 06:27:06,260 here, it's different. One is an administrative functionality. So a lot of peace is a governance 3171 06:27:06,260 --> 06:27:13,260 And so you need to make the same motion, you need to ask questions or ask by my colleagues. 3172 06:27:13,680 --> 06:27:22,700 So now you say tangible impacts on the capacity is on the administration side or is on the governance side. 3173 06:27:23,640 --> 06:27:26,080 Sorry, yeah, I guess I should have been more specific with my language. 3174 06:27:26,880 --> 06:27:30,380 But by administrative, I mean administrative within the fancy OSU. 3175 06:27:30,380 --> 06:27:37,260 are not things like not like the liaison but more just how do like we as like executive 3176 06:27:37,260 --> 06:27:43,900 like chairs and some community coach how co-chairs how we organize the way that you. 3177 06:27:45,020 --> 06:27:51,920 Okay so I I know my time is up thank you councilor now thanks councilor senator sorry I'm going 3178 06:27:51,920 --> 06:27:56,780 to give this one more try sorry and I'll go to an administration on this so I've heard the caution 3179 06:27:56,780 --> 06:28:00,980 And from youth council about what they're worried they're going to lose, say the ability 3180 06:28:00,980 --> 06:28:06,260 to engage in my mind, that's going to be part of their ongoing work, whether there's 3181 06:28:06,260 --> 06:28:10,420 an internal subcommittee or not, to me, that's just that, that is something every committee 3182 06:28:10,420 --> 06:28:14,160 does, they do engage with it, they connect, they use that information to help inform. 3183 06:28:15,580 --> 06:28:21,480 So to me, nothing's changing, whether there's an internal subcommittee or not, the minutes 3184 06:28:21,480 --> 06:28:25,320 are going to support other than you might not have to have somebody at an internal subcommittee 3185 06:28:25,320 --> 06:28:28,260 because it doesn't exist, is that it means perspective? 3186 06:28:30,200 --> 06:28:33,800 Yeah, I think there's an opportunity to support support this group 3187 06:28:33,800 --> 06:28:36,120 to look at what needs to be done, 3188 06:28:36,360 --> 06:28:38,300 what maybe they don't need to do 3189 06:28:38,300 --> 06:28:41,440 and maybe develop into two subcommittees. 3190 06:28:42,240 --> 06:28:45,300 We haven't had those in-depth discussions yet, 3191 06:28:45,380 --> 06:28:46,180 so it's hard. 3192 06:28:46,440 --> 06:28:49,420 I know our staff have had some initial conversations, 3193 06:28:49,940 --> 06:28:52,040 but we haven't had the time to really look at it, 3194 06:28:52,100 --> 06:28:54,200 but I think there's opportunities to find ways 3195 06:28:54,200 --> 06:28:57,560 that nothing gets lost, that having one last group 3196 06:28:57,560 --> 06:28:58,180 happened to them. 3197 06:28:58,400 --> 06:28:59,320 That's where I'm going. 3198 06:29:00,200 --> 06:29:03,700 So they're, we're not going to name Smith at today. 3199 06:29:03,880 --> 06:29:06,760 There might be an internal random gathering of events 3200 06:29:06,760 --> 06:29:09,600 that they want to talk about things that have nothing to do 3201 06:29:09,600 --> 06:29:11,800 that require an in time, and they can figure out a time. 3202 06:29:11,880 --> 06:29:14,260 Like, because I do, having sat through some of that stuff, 3203 06:29:14,340 --> 06:29:16,400 like I get, they want to do it. 3204 06:29:16,880 --> 06:29:18,660 You're okay with them going to do that stuff, 3205 06:29:18,840 --> 06:29:22,520 as long as it's not a decision and would have fallen under 3206 06:29:22,520 --> 06:29:27,240 the requirements of having to live stream. Correct? Well, I think that's something we 3207 06:29:27,240 --> 06:29:32,320 have to discuss with them too because I just want to say like this is a group of young 3208 06:29:32,320 --> 06:29:39,660 people. Yeah. They're from ages 13 to 23. That's a broad range. And so, you know, they're 3209 06:29:39,660 --> 06:29:44,540 part of the city and we have to make sure that everyone's protected and safe. Yeah, I guess 3210 06:29:44,540 --> 06:29:48,660 I think we have to be careful with some of that. Because I think back to when I started though, 3211 06:29:48,660 --> 06:29:53,160 There were, there were, I don't know what I'm going to call them now, but I'm going to use the 3212 06:29:53,160 --> 06:29:54,580 term subcommittee in this case. 3213 06:29:54,980 --> 06:29:59,800 There were subcommittee gatherings at U of A students union building that did not have 3214 06:29:59,800 --> 06:29:59,960 members. 3215 06:30:01,100 --> 06:30:15,720 Because they were just working through a project, they were working through something. So clearly something was permitted then to allow them to connect to work on things without having to trigger some sort of mechanism on our end on the cities and to have to do that. 3216 06:30:15,720 --> 06:30:19,880 right like that that's that ran for years and that ran but from before I was on council 3217 06:30:19,880 --> 06:30:25,640 since I was on youth council and I think to this day it's like I that that's why I feel 3218 06:30:25,640 --> 06:30:32,640 like this is just a naming exercise less a or am I missing something I would say we would 3219 06:30:32,640 --> 06:30:37,780 not be encouraging those sorts of things going forward okay again ensure the safety of our young 3220 06:30:37,780 --> 06:30:43,620 people they're they're part of our structure and we need to ensure what we do keeps everyone safe 3221 06:30:43,620 --> 06:30:48,820 And so I would be wanting to have more formalized systems. 3222 06:30:48,820 --> 06:30:50,140 Okay. Okay. 3223 06:30:51,300 --> 06:30:55,060 All right, but what I'm taking away is that we're not going to lose the work. 3224 06:30:55,280 --> 06:30:59,360 We might not have an internal subcommittee, but we're not going to lose that work. 3225 06:30:59,460 --> 06:31:01,960 It might move into a different committee. 3226 06:31:02,760 --> 06:31:04,300 Nobody's losing out here. 3227 06:31:04,560 --> 06:31:07,180 This is what I'm, I guess, what I'm trying to sort of resolve. 3228 06:31:08,120 --> 06:31:12,660 Because it feels like this feels like a long council debate that I don't know. 3229 06:31:13,100 --> 06:31:16,200 It needed to be a council debate, but I guess I'm just trying to see like. 3230 06:31:16,760 --> 06:31:20,820 So administration, if this, if this passes, we've heard the desire to keep doing work, 3231 06:31:21,240 --> 06:31:22,200 that work is going to happen. 3232 06:31:22,800 --> 06:31:24,260 We're just going to figure out a way to make a work. 3233 06:31:24,680 --> 06:31:28,980 From my perspective, our team will work with the youth council and make sure it happens. 3234 06:31:29,020 --> 06:31:30,440 Then, there we go. 3235 06:31:31,120 --> 06:31:31,680 I'm good now. 3236 06:31:32,640 --> 06:31:37,160 Thank you, Councillor Anak, so I'm not seeing any additional questions. 3237 06:31:37,160 --> 06:31:41,480 on the board for this amendment, anyone to speak to it, 3238 06:31:44,320 --> 06:31:46,320 or Councillor Stevenson to close? 3239 06:31:52,290 --> 06:31:52,730 Councillor Tain? 3240 06:31:53,250 --> 06:31:59,530 Maybe just very briefly, you know, thank you for kind of very valiantly defending your 3241 06:31:59,530 --> 06:32:01,150 case to the two co-chairs. 3242 06:32:02,310 --> 06:32:07,390 No, I appreciate some of the intricacy that I think maybe we got too much a little bit into 3243 06:32:07,390 --> 06:32:10,890 the weeds today, but appreciate that there's something you can see that makes you a little 3244 06:32:10,890 --> 06:32:13,730 different than perhaps some of the other committees. 3245 06:32:15,130 --> 06:32:16,130 No, I will be supporting this. 3246 06:32:16,190 --> 06:32:22,790 I think part of this is understanding that the team that's supporting use also supporting 3247 06:32:22,790 --> 06:32:23,910 three other committees. 3248 06:32:24,370 --> 06:32:29,710 And earlier today, we just got a report from one of the committee chairs who is genuinely 3249 06:32:29,710 --> 06:32:31,590 concerned about administrative support. 3250 06:32:31,930 --> 06:32:37,870 And I just think in the interest of fairness and equity, equitable resource, I would be 3251 06:32:37,870 --> 06:32:42,230 supporting this. And I think there's a lot of conversations to be had about what would be the best 3252 06:32:42,230 --> 06:32:48,730 structure that will work for you. I can absolutely appreciate that capacity, you know, as of interest 3253 06:32:48,730 --> 06:32:54,350 here, but I would just, you know, really encourage, you know, your team and the general assembly, 3254 06:32:54,550 --> 06:33:00,730 do you think about, like, what would be the best structure for that? And, you know, I understand that 3255 06:33:00,730 --> 06:33:07,350 internal committee thing is a longstanding practice, but, you know, given kind of the advisory role, 3256 06:33:07,350 --> 06:33:14,010 given kind of, you know, the current landscape and with some of the other committee structures, 3257 06:33:14,290 --> 06:33:22,830 you know, really encourage you to focus and to be more, you know, effective in that role. 3258 06:33:23,610 --> 06:33:27,790 So, you know, appreciate the conversation. Thank you for, thank you to the mover. 3259 06:33:28,670 --> 06:33:30,510 All right. Thank you. Councillor Neckon, can you take the chair, please? 3260 06:33:31,330 --> 06:33:35,470 I've got the chair. Thank you so much. I'll speak very briefly to this one as well, 3261 06:33:35,470 --> 06:33:41,350 and appreciate both of you taking on so many questions this evening and responding 3262 06:33:41,350 --> 06:33:47,610 with a lot of thoughtfulness and grace. Thank you. So, I think I got the clarity I needed 3263 06:33:47,610 --> 06:33:53,090 through Councilor Nax. Most recently, I have questions. It was very clear to me and those answers 3264 06:33:53,090 --> 06:33:59,430 that there really nothing, nothing gets lost with this change, which is I think the important 3265 06:33:59,430 --> 06:34:03,490 point that I'm taking away from this, I think Councilor Tang brought up a number of really excellent 3266 06:34:03,490 --> 06:34:10,250 points as well and would just want to reiterate, you know, as as as those conversations unfold 3267 06:34:10,250 --> 06:34:18,970 and unroll, you know, not just on the administrative side, but myself as well as, I'll speak 3268 06:34:18,970 --> 06:34:23,350 for Councillor Jazz, you know, we're here as well to help navigate some of those changes. 3269 06:34:23,930 --> 06:34:26,950 So I'll just I'll leave it there, but I will be supporting this as well. 3270 06:34:27,150 --> 06:34:27,550 Thank you. 3271 06:34:27,730 --> 06:34:28,930 I'll return the chair. 3272 06:34:29,710 --> 06:34:30,330 Councillor Piquette. 3273 06:34:31,830 --> 06:34:41,410 Thank you, and I just want to thank the representatives here who came out to share your thoughts with us. 3274 06:34:41,530 --> 06:34:48,310 You know, I was never never a young person who bent the rules and sometimes ignored them, so I hope you aren't either. 3275 06:34:48,730 --> 06:34:50,250 Point of order, the Councillor is lying. 3276 06:34:53,930 --> 06:35:02,990 Speaking of lines, let's read between the lines, and look, I never did anything that adults told 3277 06:35:02,990 --> 06:35:10,370 me not to do, not once in my life, and I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure 3278 06:35:10,370 --> 06:35:15,570 if I'm going to support this motion, I think that there's some latitude here that we could 3279 06:35:15,570 --> 06:35:24,130 potentially offer, and I think that we should probably be a little bit more relaxed with 3280 06:35:24,130 --> 06:35:28,890 the roles a little bit, if they're not actually causing any problems by relaxing those 3281 06:35:29,410 --> 06:35:29,930 roles. 3282 06:35:31,450 --> 06:35:33,650 These things happen very successfully in the past. 3283 06:35:33,810 --> 06:35:38,170 I haven't heard anything that said that they couldn't continue to happen successfully 3284 06:35:39,430 --> 06:35:43,150 under a more lenient model, so I'll just leave it at that. 3285 06:35:43,250 --> 06:35:43,870 Thank you. 3286 06:35:43,870 --> 06:35:47,690 Thank you. Councillor Stevenson. Please vote. 3287 06:35:58,720 --> 06:36:01,120 Yes. Thank you, Councillor Giants. We have all the votes. 3288 06:36:01,260 --> 06:36:01,940 This is the vote. 3289 06:36:05,060 --> 06:36:13,220 That is carried. Excellent. Thank you. So the motion as amended is now on the floor. 3290 06:36:13,380 --> 06:36:18,480 We're there any further questions. We've asked a fair number of them. So we should be. 3291 06:36:18,560 --> 06:36:21,760 Should be good. If there's anyone to speak to this, please sign up. 3292 06:36:25,580 --> 06:36:26,180 Councillor Giants. 3293 06:36:35,360 --> 06:36:38,340 Councillor Neck, would you take the chair then? I am actually going to speak. 3294 06:36:38,800 --> 06:36:39,280 I'll go the chair. 3295 06:36:39,680 --> 06:36:40,380 Thank you. 3296 06:36:41,200 --> 06:36:47,660 Yeah, no, again, just wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for all the work that 3297 06:36:47,660 --> 06:36:48,620 Youth Council does. 3298 06:36:49,960 --> 06:36:54,200 I reflect on some of the conversations that I've been able to listen to around the Youth Council table. 3299 06:36:56,840 --> 06:36:57,600 And they truly are. 3300 06:36:57,660 --> 06:37:01,720 Some of the most thoughtful, thoughtful conversations that I get to be a part of. 3301 06:37:01,720 --> 06:37:06,480 and I hear questions asked, and conversations have that sometimes I don't even think of. 3302 06:37:06,600 --> 06:37:11,320 And I think that is a clear indicator that youth council is bringing different perspectives 3303 06:37:11,320 --> 06:37:15,600 to the table that we really need to hear as part of our decision-making process. 3304 06:37:17,040 --> 06:37:19,940 So yeah, my thanks and gratitude, 3305 06:37:22,300 --> 06:37:24,540 and if I look like I said to the amendment, 3306 06:37:24,540 --> 06:37:29,620 and if there are further conversations that need to be had, as we adapt to. 3307 06:37:30,740 --> 06:37:36,280 The two verses three formal subcommittees very happy to walk alongside you in that. 3308 06:37:36,740 --> 06:37:38,000 So thank you. 3309 06:37:39,660 --> 06:37:40,460 All right, turn to chair. 3310 06:37:40,860 --> 06:37:42,740 Thanks so much. Please vote. 3311 06:37:54,610 --> 06:37:54,810 Yes. 3312 06:37:55,190 --> 06:37:57,410 Thank you, Councillor Jones. We have all the votes. 3313 06:37:57,870 --> 06:37:58,690 Just play the vote. 3314 06:38:04,450 --> 06:38:05,050 That's carried. 3315 06:38:07,230 --> 06:38:07,270 Great. 3316 06:38:09,170 --> 06:38:10,330 Well, thank you so much. 3317 06:38:10,430 --> 06:38:12,370 I'm showing an alley for being with us this evening. 3318 06:38:13,230 --> 06:38:17,470 Probably a little bit longer than you expected, but I appreciate the conversation in dialogue. 3319 06:38:17,990 --> 06:38:21,910 So we're going to move on to our last item of the evening, but thanks again for joining. 3320 06:38:25,320 --> 06:38:28,960 All right. So, very last item of the evening, everyone. 3321 06:38:29,640 --> 06:38:32,120 We're going to be moving to the Edmonton Combat of Sports Commission. 3322 06:38:32,620 --> 06:38:37,060 And we have Chair Trevor Kelly, as well as Vice Chair Andrew Soto, 3323 06:38:37,720 --> 06:38:38,360 joining online. 3324 06:38:39,520 --> 06:38:41,220 Andrew and Trevor are you here? 3325 06:38:42,200 --> 06:38:42,440 Yes. 3326 06:38:43,260 --> 06:38:48,040 Excellent. Thank you so much and thank you for your patience as we got to the end of our agenda here. 3327 06:38:48,040 --> 06:38:54,900 But we have some time allocated for you to provide a bit of an overview or presentation before we ask some questions. 3328 06:38:55,300 --> 06:38:57,040 So I'll turn the floor over to you. 3329 06:38:58,160 --> 06:38:59,260 Good evening, Councillors. 3330 06:38:59,580 --> 06:39:05,220 I will be presenting the Edmonton Combative Sports Commission report and work plan and answering any questions you may have. 3331 06:39:06,120 --> 06:39:08,720 I'll begin with speaking about the Commission's mandate. 3332 06:39:09,660 --> 06:39:14,220 There are three parties responsible for the regulation of combative sports in Edmonton. 3333 06:39:14,220 --> 06:39:18,800 First, of course, is the city council, which passes the bylaws, which permit professional 3334 06:39:18,800 --> 06:39:23,180 combatant sports within the city, and further more set out the duties for both the commission 3335 06:39:23,180 --> 06:39:24,760 and its executive director. 3336 06:39:25,680 --> 06:39:30,380 The executive director is a city of Edmonton Employee who is responsible for all operational 3337 06:39:30,380 --> 06:39:35,500 matters concerning combatant sports, including employing and training of officials, approval 3338 06:39:35,500 --> 06:39:41,460 of applications for promoter licenses, and event permits, and general operational oversight 3339 06:39:41,460 --> 06:39:42,480 of sanction events. 3340 06:39:42,480 --> 06:39:53,160 The Commission is a committee established by Baila 15638 and since 1920 the Commission has been responsible for the regulation of combat of sports within the city. 3341 06:39:54,160 --> 06:40:01,880 The Commission has composed of seven volunteer members and for the 2025 year there will be a need to fill two or three vacant seats. 3342 06:40:02,300 --> 06:40:08,720 One member is at the end of his third and final turn while another is at the end of his second turn but is not seeking a third turn. 3343 06:40:08,720 --> 06:40:13,680 I am also approaching the young of my third term next month, but the Commission adopted 3344 06:40:13,680 --> 06:40:19,180 a motion for City Council to extend my appointment by one additional year to my third 3345 06:40:20,300 --> 06:40:25,060 term, purely for successors of planning as no one on the Commission currently has the 3346 06:40:25,060 --> 06:40:28,640 interest or capacity to assume the role of chair after my term ends. 3347 06:40:30,220 --> 06:40:34,120 The Commission does not take an operational role of respect to combative sports, rather 3348 06:40:34,120 --> 06:40:39,360 Our mandate is strictly to function as a regulator and to provide governance by supplementing 3349 06:40:39,360 --> 06:40:44,340 the by-laws with regulations and policies which apply to promoters, athletes, officials, 3350 06:40:45,020 --> 06:40:47,480 and to the operation of combative sports within the city. 3351 06:40:48,640 --> 06:40:53,180 The Commission also serves as an appeal body with respect to decisions made by the executive 3352 06:40:53,180 --> 06:40:57,720 director concerning applications for Vempermer permits and promoter licenses. 3353 06:41:00,620 --> 06:41:05,700 2024 was a very significant year for the Commission, as Edmonton hosted its first professional 3354 06:41:05,700 --> 06:41:11,180 combative sports events since 2019, when the UFC held an event at the Rogers Place on 3355 06:41:11,180 --> 06:41:11,880 November 2. 3356 06:41:12,840 --> 06:41:18,940 From 2020 to early 2022, public health restrictions connected to the COVID-19 pandemic, 3357 06:41:19,480 --> 06:41:22,940 prevented the holding of any combative sports events during that period of time. 3358 06:41:23,740 --> 06:41:28,200 That pause on events for public health reasons was immediately followed by the pause that 3359 06:41:28,200 --> 06:41:32,600 was put in place by city administration for the acceptance of any applications for promoter 3360 06:41:32,600 --> 06:41:39,240 licenses and event permits that was in place from August of 2022 to May of 2023, while 3361 06:41:39,240 --> 06:41:43,340 administration conducted a full-son review of the Commission's policies and regulations. 3362 06:41:44,580 --> 06:41:49,320 After that pause was lifted, it was merely a matter of waiting for a promoter to take 3363 06:41:49,320 --> 06:41:53,700 the first step in holding an event in Edmonton in the hopes that it would lead to other events 3364 06:41:53,700 --> 06:41:54,660 also being scheduled. 3365 06:41:55,620 --> 06:42:00,800 The USC event in November was a success, setting a record for the largest gate, and by 3366 06:42:00,800 --> 06:42:06,940 I mean, revenue generated from ticket sales, for an enemy invented North America for a non-paper 3367 06:42:06,940 --> 06:42:07,980 view event. 3368 06:42:08,980 --> 06:42:13,500 Furthermore, as I mentioned, the hope was that once an event was finally held that it would 3369 06:42:13,500 --> 06:42:18,160 encourage further events, which seems to be the case as another enemy event has been scheduled 3370 06:42:18,160 --> 06:42:23,460 for April 12th by a promoter known as Unified M.A. to be held in the Ice District 3371 06:42:23,460 --> 06:42:24,140 Fan Park. 3372 06:42:25,080 --> 06:42:29,700 The last thing that was sporting event prior to the pandemic was a KO boxing event held 3373 06:42:29,700 --> 06:42:32,060 shot conference center in December of 2019. 3374 06:42:32,580 --> 06:42:36,420 So after nearly five years with no events, it is good to finally see a return in combat 3375 06:42:36,420 --> 06:42:37,520 of sports to Edmonton. 3376 06:42:39,100 --> 06:42:41,560 2024 was another productive year for the commission. 3377 06:42:42,120 --> 06:42:45,860 The commission has continued its work on the policy review project that it commenced 3378 06:42:45,860 --> 06:42:46,840 in 2018. 3379 06:42:47,960 --> 06:42:51,520 The aim of the project has been to have the commission go through each of the commission's 3380 06:42:51,520 --> 06:42:56,540 14 policies and regulations and review and revise them as necessary to make them both 3381 06:42:56,540 --> 06:42:57,860 more efficient and effective. 3382 06:42:57,860 --> 06:43:07,520 This work is largely done by way of a gap analysis, comparing the Commission's policies and regulations to those of other jurisdictions in Canada and the U.S. 3383 06:43:08,440 --> 06:43:18,980 In 2024, the Commission reviewed and revised its policies concerning fighter debut criteria, medical suspensions and rest periods for athletes, as well as drug testing. 3384 06:43:19,560 --> 06:43:27,960 Looking forward into 2025 and 2026, the Commission hopes to complete its work on the six remaining policies that the yet to be reviewed as part of the project. 3385 06:43:29,040 --> 06:43:42,960 In addition to its work on the policy review, the Commission was also able to send a delegation of Commission members along with the executive director to the annual conference for the Association of Boxing Commission, which was held in Louisville, Kentucky this past July. 3386 06:43:42,960 --> 06:43:47,840 The conference is an opportunity for the Commission to network with other commissions and 3387 06:43:47,840 --> 06:43:52,240 learn about important new developments in the regulation of combative sports across North America. 3388 06:43:53,880 --> 06:44:00,460 2024 was also a significant year as in November saw the release of the report for the Tim Hague's 3389 06:44:00,460 --> 06:44:04,040 Natality and Quiry which went to hearing in May of 2023. 3390 06:44:05,220 --> 06:44:11,180 The report came with 14 recommendations from Justice Sharp who presided over the inquiry and 3391 06:44:11,180 --> 06:44:14,740 The Commission has been working closely with its partner-seed in the city of administration 3392 06:44:14,740 --> 06:44:19,360 in revealing and implementing those recommendations as appropriate for the purpose of 3393 06:44:19,360 --> 06:44:21,020 enhancing athlete safety. 3394 06:44:21,880 --> 06:44:25,700 I'd like to use this opportunity to, for the Commission to extend its sincere condolences 3395 06:44:25,700 --> 06:44:27,360 to the family of Tim Hague. 3396 06:44:28,700 --> 06:44:33,100 Lastly, in December, the Commission was contacted by officials from the province, concerning 3397 06:44:33,100 --> 06:44:35,620 the future regulation of combat of sports in Alberta. 3398 06:44:35,620 --> 06:44:41,340 On December 17th, the Executive Director and myself met with the Minister of Sport and 3399 06:44:41,340 --> 06:44:46,380 Tourism as well as the Minister of Municipal Affairs, alongside the chairs and executive 3400 06:44:46,380 --> 06:44:50,320 directors of all the other municipal combatant sports commissions in the province. 3401 06:44:51,400 --> 06:44:55,480 The Commission and the City have both won advocate for the establishment of a provincial 3402 06:44:55,480 --> 06:44:58,660 and that of sports commission to oversee combat of sports in Alberta. 3403 06:44:59,860 --> 06:44:59,980 All of it. 3404 06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:05,700 Other provinces and the states in the U.S., regulate combat of sports at the provincial or state level. 3405 06:45:06,180 --> 06:45:10,460 Alberta is the last jurisdiction of maintaining municipal oversight of combat of sports. 3406 06:45:12,400 --> 06:45:17,180 The province is engaging in various municipal commissions in a consultation process. 3407 06:45:17,880 --> 06:45:22,820 And while I believe it is too early to tell if this will result in the establishment of a provincial commission. 3408 06:45:22,820 --> 06:45:28,060 I am nonetheless cautiously optimistic that the province may finally be looking at taking 3409 06:45:28,060 --> 06:45:30,580 steps towards establishment of one. 3410 06:45:32,440 --> 06:45:35,080 The Commission is an excellent financial standing currently. 3411 06:45:35,600 --> 06:45:40,680 The Commission does not receive any tax revenue from the city, and instead is self-funded 3412 06:45:40,680 --> 06:45:45,280 through the holding of combat of sports, with revenue generated from the fees and connection 3413 06:45:45,280 --> 06:45:50,820 with permit and license applications, but also receives revenue through the portion of 3414 06:45:50,820 --> 06:45:56,000 and ticket sales. As I mentioned earlier, the USC event in November had the highest grossing 3415 06:45:56,000 --> 06:46:00,620 ticket sales of any non-paper view event in North America to date. And as a result, the 3416 06:46:00,620 --> 06:46:09,160 Commission's revenue for 2024 was $190,893. The significant influx of revenue, when added to 3417 06:46:09,160 --> 06:46:15,720 the revenue received from past two of the events in 2017 and 2019, brings the total amount of funds 3418 06:46:15,720 --> 06:46:21,160 the Commission has in its account two 373,886 dollars. 3419 06:46:22,080 --> 06:46:25,060 These funds give plenty of flexibility for the Commission and we did 3420 06:46:25,060 --> 06:46:30,000 budgeted expenditures, including officials training, Commission member training, 3421 06:46:30,300 --> 06:46:35,860 and hopefully sending a delegation to the 2025 Association of Boxing Commission conference, 3422 06:46:36,360 --> 06:46:39,860 which is scheduled to be in New Orleans in August. 3423 06:46:40,760 --> 06:46:55,240 So, subject to any questions that concludes my report, I would like to take this opportunity to extend my gratitude and appreciation to all my fellow commission members and to our executive director, Forest Gavin's, for all their hard work and dedication towards achieving the commission's mandate. 3424 06:46:56,820 --> 06:46:59,160 Great. Well, thank you so much for the presentation. 3425 06:47:00,340 --> 06:47:06,300 And I'll see if there are any questions from colleagues or if there's someone who might want to move a recommendation in the report. 3426 06:47:10,470 --> 06:47:13,190 I'm happy to move. That was excellent report. 3427 06:47:16,050 --> 06:47:16,130 Second. 3428 06:47:17,490 --> 06:47:20,610 Great. Thank you so much so much to move by Councillor Ting. Second by Councillor Wright. 3429 06:47:22,310 --> 06:47:27,110 That was a very thorough presentation and I know I enjoyed reading through the report. 3430 06:47:28,670 --> 06:47:32,690 So I don't have any questions. Councillor Ting, did you? 3431 06:47:32,690 --> 06:47:46,190 Sure, I'm happy to just, a few things that you, you mentioned, really flag some interest just in terms of your conversation with the province and kind of the potential direction that they may take. 3432 06:47:48,230 --> 06:47:54,230 So following perhaps other jurisdictions, that would mean kind of a municipal level commission. 3433 06:47:55,810 --> 06:47:58,830 That would effectively replace the municipal level commission. 3434 06:47:59,390 --> 06:48:01,710 Is that kind of what I'm hearing you? 3435 06:48:01,710 --> 06:48:17,410 Yeah, as I said, it's a little early to tell, if the province is going to commit to the establishment of a provincial commission, some of these preliminary discussions that the provinces had with the various municipal commissions. 3436 06:48:17,410 --> 06:48:21,750 as explore that option of or alternatively being 3437 06:48:21,750 --> 06:48:25,730 teamed municipal regulation with some higher level 3438 06:48:25,730 --> 06:48:27,670 of oversight from the province. 3439 06:48:29,430 --> 06:48:32,130 You know, alternatively there's always the possibility 3440 06:48:32,130 --> 06:48:35,470 that nothing might happen and that the status 3441 06:48:35,470 --> 06:48:36,350 full will remain. 3442 06:48:37,570 --> 06:48:41,030 But as I said, you know, it's one been the commission, 3443 06:48:41,590 --> 06:48:43,690 the Edmonds in Combat of Sports Commission's position, 3444 06:48:43,690 --> 06:48:48,090 that a provincial commission would be preferred. 3445 06:48:49,070 --> 06:48:51,550 Yeah. Great. Thank you. Thank you for that clarity. 3446 06:48:51,850 --> 06:48:54,390 And then your work plans also really thorough. 3447 06:48:54,670 --> 06:48:55,950 I guess I'm wondering, 3448 06:48:58,330 --> 06:49:01,970 you know, I think I've heard about a few events just even this year. 3449 06:49:02,490 --> 06:49:08,550 Although I think maybe outside of the city is the commission seeing some of those opportunities coming up. 3450 06:49:08,710 --> 06:49:11,890 Given how active 2024 was? 3451 06:49:14,960 --> 06:49:26,020 Yeah, I mean, as I said, it was kind of a case of waiting for, you know, someone to make the first step to bring, you know, the sport back to Edmonton. 3452 06:49:26,560 --> 06:49:37,440 Obviously, the river Cree casino hosts a number of combatant sporting events. However, that is outside the jurisdiction of the commission because it's not within the city of Edmonton. 3453 06:49:39,850 --> 06:49:52,270 Yeah, and then I guess just a final one, just on your budget, I mean, you're at your in very healthy position, like, what do you, I guess, typically do with that kind of. 3454 06:49:54,520 --> 06:50:07,660 So, so as I said, you know, one of our things that we like to fund is, is officials training and for women's sectors, referees judges. 3455 06:50:07,660 --> 06:50:14,300 you know, either by bringing in individuals to the city for the purpose of putting 3456 06:50:14,300 --> 06:50:22,680 on instruction, that anyone interested can attend, alternatively, you know, we have subsidized 3457 06:50:22,680 --> 06:50:32,140 or funded attendance outside the city for some of our local officials, for example, one 3458 06:50:32,140 --> 06:50:40,240 our referees in 2023 attended the conference that I mentioned in the Association of 3459 06:50:40,240 --> 06:50:46,460 Ox and Commissions Conference by coming to us with a proposed plan for the his attendance 3460 06:50:46,460 --> 06:50:53,340 and enrollment in some further officials training. I also mentioned Commission Member 3461 06:50:53,340 --> 06:51:01,500 Training specifically as an example of what that might entail. As I mentioned, the 3462 06:51:01,500 --> 06:51:11,320 mission serves as an appeal body from decisions of the executive director, so in 2021 that was 3463 06:51:11,320 --> 06:51:20,380 the year we established our former appeal policy and we had to hear an appeal and at that point in 3464 06:51:20,380 --> 06:51:26,960 time nobody had an administrative tribunal training. It just happens by coincidence at the time 3465 06:51:26,960 --> 06:51:29,800 three of our seven members, including myself, 3466 06:51:30,580 --> 06:51:31,780 were practicing lawyers. 3467 06:51:32,620 --> 06:51:35,220 So we kind of thought through the process 3468 06:51:35,220 --> 06:51:37,740 by establishing a panel of three lawyers 3469 06:51:37,740 --> 06:51:38,840 to hear this appeal. 3470 06:51:40,340 --> 06:51:43,160 But after that, we took it upon ourselves 3471 06:51:43,160 --> 06:51:46,780 to actually enroll the rest of the commission 3472 06:51:46,780 --> 06:51:50,260 into formal administrative tribunal training. 3473 06:51:51,300 --> 06:51:54,580 So that is something that I would like to probably 3474 06:51:54,580 --> 06:51:59,140 have happened again, if not in 2025 and perhaps in 2026, 3475 06:52:01,480 --> 06:52:03,300 primarily due to the fact that I think 3476 06:52:03,300 --> 06:52:09,800 every member of the commission other than myself who went through that training in 2021 is no 3477 06:52:09,800 --> 06:52:16,140 longer going to be on the commission as at the end of this term, which would be the end of people. 3478 06:52:17,360 --> 06:52:23,700 Yeah, no, that's great. Glad to hear some of those plans too. I guess further improve, you know, 3479 06:52:23,700 --> 06:52:28,080 some of the safety work that you've been carrying on. 3480 06:52:28,240 --> 06:52:29,320 So thank you for that. 3481 06:52:29,780 --> 06:52:29,960 Nothing more. 3482 06:52:34,290 --> 06:52:42,670 I'm just looking at in attachment to talks about the administrative support, is funded from community standards. 3483 06:52:44,250 --> 06:52:55,470 You've indicated that there's no sort of, there's no, besides the administrative support that you receive, there's no other tax supported city tax supported support. 3484 06:52:56,930 --> 06:53:08,470 Yes. Yes. Okay. And I guess how often do you rely on community standards branch to support you in your meetings in that? 3485 06:53:10,230 --> 06:53:13,530 Typically, in terms of an in support, just term on fee meeting. 3486 06:53:13,810 --> 06:53:18,130 Okay. Okay. So, and that's live streamed as well, just like all of our other. 3487 06:53:18,130 --> 06:53:26,090 Okay, and I thought I had a question about the license fees, but I see that does come under revenue that you get for that. 3488 06:53:26,470 --> 06:53:35,210 I was just wondering, is your projected going to be more this year as well, because you might be getting more events? 3489 06:53:39,290 --> 06:53:48,030 Yeah, I mean, the budget that we had put together in 2024, which we've more or less, you know, 3490 06:53:48,030 --> 06:54:06,650 adopted for 2025. It was predicated upon the possibility of two to three events that would not obviously be to the same scale as a UFC event because the revenue is I believe it's 5% of ticket sales. 3491 06:54:06,650 --> 06:54:15,910 So, the USC event that took place in November, January, I believe, $2.6 million in ticket sales. 3492 06:54:16,350 --> 06:54:21,250 So, 5% of that is, you know, that are revenue came from in 2024. 3493 06:54:23,230 --> 06:54:30,950 But, you know, a significantly more modest number is what would be expected from non-USC, 3494 06:54:30,950 --> 06:54:39,650 see boxing and MMA events, where I think the realistic amount of revenue that we would see 3495 06:54:39,650 --> 06:54:48,790 from ticket sales and license fees would be anywhere from 5 to 10,000, so at this point, 3496 06:54:48,950 --> 06:54:55,350 as I said, we have one event scheduled for people 12, whether or not there are more than that 3497 06:54:55,350 --> 06:55:00,050 remains to be seen. I think it's highly unlikely, 3498 06:55:02,150 --> 06:55:04,590 if not a variable certainty that the UFC 3499 06:55:04,590 --> 06:55:14,510 wouldn't return to Evanton very soon. I mean, they came in 2017, 2019 and now, 2024. 3500 06:55:16,430 --> 06:55:23,590 You know, I think realistically they'll be back potentially in two to three years, but for 2025 3501 06:55:24,390 --> 06:55:31,610 not likely twenty twenty six eight. Okay, okay, so we're not, yeah, not the, not the 3502 06:55:31,610 --> 06:55:35,310 big revenue that, or the smaller ones wouldn't provide the same revenue as 3503 06:55:35,310 --> 06:55:41,490 what we saw there. Okay, basically the probably ordered magnitude, if not two. 3504 06:55:41,850 --> 06:55:46,130 Okay, order something in the two difference. Okay, perfect, thank you very much to 3505 06:55:46,130 --> 06:55:50,350 the fellow. Thank you, not seeing further questions, if there's anyone to speak please sign up 3506 06:55:50,350 --> 06:55:55,430 Now, if not, we'll go to Councillor Tang to close. 3507 06:55:56,910 --> 06:56:01,510 Not much, but just want to appreciate the work you're all doing. 3508 06:56:01,690 --> 06:56:05,010 And thank you for thinking about succession. 3509 06:56:05,870 --> 06:56:06,590 All really valuable. 3510 06:56:08,030 --> 06:56:10,030 And yeah, appreciate every year. 3511 06:56:10,270 --> 06:56:11,590 Appreciate your report back. 3512 06:56:11,830 --> 06:56:12,350 Thank you. 3513 06:56:13,410 --> 06:56:13,650 Great. 3514 06:56:13,730 --> 06:56:14,350 Please vote. 3515 06:56:17,160 --> 06:56:17,440 Yes. 3516 06:56:18,120 --> 06:56:18,600 Thank you. 3517 06:56:18,700 --> 06:56:19,000 Councillor Jones. 3518 06:56:20,100 --> 06:56:20,320 Yes. 3519 06:56:21,060 --> 06:56:21,340 Thank you. 3520 06:56:21,340 --> 06:56:22,500 with a rather good 3521 06:56:27,040 --> 06:56:28,940 counselor for cat or you still with us? 3522 06:56:37,280 --> 06:56:38,000 My apologies. 3523 06:56:42,030 --> 06:56:42,790 We have all the votes. 3524 06:56:42,930 --> 06:56:43,210 This way, 3525 06:56:47,700 --> 06:56:48,240 that's carried. 3526 06:56:49,340 --> 06:56:49,600 Excellent. 3527 06:56:49,900 --> 06:56:51,700 Well, thank you so much for sticking with us. 3528 06:56:51,820 --> 06:56:53,160 This evening, Trevor, and again, 3529 06:56:53,260 --> 06:56:56,040 just want to really appreciate the important regulatory role 3530 06:56:56,040 --> 06:56:56,960 that the commission plays. 3531 06:56:58,020 --> 06:57:01,040 And look forward to ongoing conversations 3532 06:57:01,040 --> 06:57:03,200 and future reports and subsequent years. 3533 06:57:03,400 --> 06:57:04,240 Thank you so much. 3534 06:57:05,280 --> 06:57:05,720 Thank you. 3535 06:57:05,980 --> 06:57:06,200 Have a good night. 3536 06:57:06,960 --> 06:57:07,460 You too. 3537 06:57:07,640 --> 06:57:10,400 All right, everyone, we've made it. 3538 06:57:10,400 --> 06:57:15,300 and to the agenda, so by last private reports, motions pending, none, notices a motion, 3539 06:57:15,660 --> 06:57:18,280 motions without customer notice none, which means we're adjourned. 3540 06:57:18,700 --> 06:57:19,460 Thank you so much.