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I will start with a land acknowledgement. At this time, I'd like to acknowledge that we meet on the traditional land of Treaty 6 territory in the Maiti homeland, and acknowledge the diverse indigenous peoples whose ancestors footsteps have marked this territory for century, such as Cree, Denny, So-2, Blackfoot, Nikota Esca, as well as Maiti and Inuit, and now settlers from around the world. And I will do a roll call first of committee members, Councilor Salvador.

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Good morning.

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Councillor.

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Good morning.

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Councillor Jans.

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Good morning.

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Councillor Pakek.

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Councillor.

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Good morning.

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And Councillor.

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Sorry, not Councillor Mayernack.

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Is also a good morning.

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Good morning.

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And then let's see.

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There's no other Councillors joining us in Chambers.

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I will see if there's any online that are joining us.

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I've not seen any if there are any Councillors online.

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Can you identify yourself?

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Councilor Wright. Perfect. Thank you so much. Good morning. Councilor Prince Page here as well.

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Councilor Prince Page. Thank you so much. And I know that many of the items on the agenda are very much of interest to all of Council. And so I've heard from many colleagues that they'll be joining in and out for the day.

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So, I'll now do the declaration of pecuniary or conflict of interest.

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Before we consider today's agenda, I will ask all members present if they have any pecuniary

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or conflict of interest to declare regarding any of the items to be discussed.

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A pecuniary interest exists when an item could monetarily affect a council member, their employer, or a family member.

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A conflict of interest exists when an item could affect a private interest of a member of council.

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their employer or a family member. Do any members of council have a

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pecuniary or conflict of interest to declare?

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Hearing no declared pecuniary or

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conflicts of interest, we will move on to the adoption of the agenda. And I will

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go, Councillor Cark, would you mind adopting the agenda?

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Sure, I'll move the

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adoption agenda for the infrastructure committee meeting on August 26, 2020, 6, with

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addition of 7.6, the Action Transportation Implementation Acceleration Program update, and there

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were placement attachments, 7.6, Action Transportation Implementation Acceleration Program

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updates, attachments 2, 3, and 5, version 1, and 7.6, Action Transportation Implementation

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Acceleration Program update, attachment 5, version 2, is that it?

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Yep, that's everything for our do we change the order we move the orders of the day at the

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time. We'll do this after motion first. Okay, perfect. Any questions on the adoption of the agenda?

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Seeing none, please vote. Yes. Yes.

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Thank you councillors. Yes. Thank you councillors.

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Yes. Thank you

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Now, do we do the orders of the day?

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Yes, okay, I'll stay with you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I'll move that the orders of the day

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for the August 26th, 2020,

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26th of a structured committee meeting

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be changed as follows.

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There's a dinner break from five to six PM

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and a German at nine PM.

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Thank you, and just could you just give a little bit

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of an explanation to the public

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as to what that means as a motion?

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So, yeah, there's a lot of speakers that are registered for some points, specifically today, and some of the other items as well, and we just determined that we're going to need more time to kind of get through all the items on the agenda because that is the goal for today to make sure we get through everything, so we will be going a bit later and have a break as new.

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Thank you. Any questions for my colleagues?

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On that change in order.

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Please vote.

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Yes, Madam Clerk.

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Thank you. We have all the votes.

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Please display the votes.

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And that is carried.

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Madam Clerk, just remind me.

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I know we discussed this right at the start.

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Is this where we would also change the timing?

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That's correct.

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Yeah. Okay. So I will move.

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I just got to find it here.

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I'm going to move time specific on the agenda.

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So I'm going to move that the follow-up.

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Councillor Rutherford.

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For the time limit motion is that.

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Oh, when you were indicating.

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Yes, where is that one?

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I just didn't.

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I just sent it through the chat.

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Okay.

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Please go ahead, Councillor Jones.

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Thank you.

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I will move the following motion that the clerk has.

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That infrastructure committee adjusts the rules on the time limits as set out

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section 38 of bylaw 18155 Council procedures bylaw for the August 26, 2026 infrastructure committee meeting.

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So that each approved speaker may speak for a maximum of three minutes and each member of

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Council has three minutes to ask questions and three minutes to speak or close to bid on a motion.

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Would you like to introduce that? Yeah, just given the amount to speakers,

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would just changing it from five minutes to three minutes so we can hear as many voices as

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possible. If we don't get down the business of the day, it's very hard to deal with any subsequent

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motions, directions, anything else. So we want to try and hear from as many people as possible.

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So we're just going to share the mic.

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Yeah, and I think just the math, if you calculate everybody's speaking time of five minutes,

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times the number of speakers registered, times presentations from administration and questions

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of counsel to speakers and the public, we would never, we would never finish this agenda.

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and unfortunately a lot of the other items on the agenda are also very time sensitive.

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The next infrastructure committee meeting is not till December and some of the other

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items have budget impacts as well.

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So we do need to deal with those other items.

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So I want to just, from my perspective, speak to this motion and then if others want to speak

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as well, they're welcome to, you know, we don't take, you know, reducing time of speakers

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lightly.

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But this is the balance for trying to strike between making sure we can still make decisions and have people know where we stand on a lot of these items.

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While also making sure everybody gets a chance to be heard.

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So anyone else like to speak or any other questions?

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Okay, please vote.

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Yes, vote.

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Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

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We have all the votes.

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Please display the votes.

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And that is carried.

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Okay, and now do I do the time specific or not yet?

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Now we go to approval of minutes.

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Okay, perfect.

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Councillor Salvatore?

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I'll move approval of the minutes from the June 24th, 2020,

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six infrastructure committee meeting.

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Any questions, errors or emissions on the minutes?

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Seeing none, please vote.

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Yes, Madam Clerk.

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Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

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We have all the votes.

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please display the votes and that is carried and I am not aware of any protocol

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recognitions for today and so we will move to selecting items for debates so

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my committee colleagues if you would like to select any items please sign up now

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Councillor GANS.

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Thank you, I will select 7-6, and bye.

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So, I'm going to call you so many days.

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Good luck.

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The other ones which just speakers on them.

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So then I'll select 7174.

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717374.

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That's it.

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Thank you.

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Councilor Selp.

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They're selected.

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You didn't even have any questions about the 72?

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Nope.

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But you do have a substantial subject.

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Okay.

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Perfect.

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And I do have questions still on six ones.

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So I'll select six one.

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And Councillor NAC?

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Mayor NAC, sorry.

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Sorry, I was just leaving myself

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I was going to get six one as well, but you've got to thank you.

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No, I'll write your name down for it then.

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That's it.

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So go to Councillor Clarke.

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Can you move the reports not selected for debate?

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Sure, I'll move that item 7.2 and 7.5, I think are the only ones.

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I don't want to read the bylaws out yet, but I'll move that those are selected.

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And 5.1.

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And 5.1.

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So we are passing those as recommended.

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Sorry, before the vote, I see I wouldn't mind selecting one more.

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Okay, I'm understanding that there is a desire from a non-committee member to also select

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7.2 first in question, so we will add a courtesy select 7.2 as well, I'll put that

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down as Councillor NAC, selected that, Fudge,

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Mayor NAC, selected that, and we will just

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state that it was the moving of omnibus for items 5.1 and 7.5 correct

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council clerk. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'll move the omnibus for items 5.1 and 7.5 be

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approved as recommended.

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Any other questions? It please vote.

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Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

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We have all the votes. Please display the votes and that is carried.

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Councillor Rutherford, would you like me to review what was just approved? Yes, please.

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Thank you. So this morning, infrastructure committee approved the following reports without debate.

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District 5.1, District Energy Strategy and Options with a revised due date of November 4th,

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2026, and item 7.5 by LO21549, closure of vehicle access to titled Parson, which

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will go up to Council for approval.

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Thank you very much.

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Now I will go, Councillor Salvador, can you read in the request to speak?

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Yes.

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I'll move the infrastructure committee here from the following speakers and panels when appropriate.

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On 7-1, David Johnson, Ryan Christensen, Raff Tenderenda, Carolyn Osadiac,

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Fallen Schellenberg,

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on 7-3, Erica Strada, on 7-4, Mike Melros, Danielson, Jesse Watson, Heather McKenzie,

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Pre-Kang, Raff Tenderanda, Lori Lynn Grigor, Joshua Buck, and on 7-6, Noah Acle, Emily

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Strimmel, David Berry, Lyle, Triton, Dave Sutherland, Kevin Ortenan, Erin

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Badnik, Alex Brooker, Hannah Davidson, Keaton Hawkswell, Everett Horner, Chris

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Angian Phillips, Carly Chen, Brenda Nectagal, Marilyn Chen,

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Helen Westman, William Van Agen, Cindy Westerhout,

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Michelle Nailer, Paige Kupporten, Foster Karcha,

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Rainier Lambers, Micubar, Ryan, Mark Lee, Elizabeth Fair,

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Carambe, you're seeing Terry Skinnick, Allison McIntosh,

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McIntosh, Olivia Maynard, Jacob Kriger,

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Sheila Campbell, Sarah Busby, Alex Busby, Laura Delay, Keith Hustlinga, Michael Rowling

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Hoff, Austin Nielsen Petter, Brad Thesen, Julianne Weber, Katie Hill, Benjamin Frank,

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Lake Johnson, Kristen Constable, Edwin Schale, Teresa Felling, Cameron Snothers, Ian

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Peter's Jacob Duong, Carl Parkinson, Alexander Lima, Kelly Gomont, Connor Berry, Rachel

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Bembridge, Renee Weisberg, Lauren Harding, Dean, Dresdale, James Phillips, Jason Wang,

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Melissa's Terosta, Paul's Terosta, and Justin Wheeler.

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Thank you very much for that, and I just want to make a note to my committee colleagues

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in the public at this time, so in the interest of hearing from everyone who submitted

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request to speak ahead of today's meeting, I would prefer that we do not make any motions

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to hear from any additional speakers after dealing with this section of today's agenda.

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So with that, are there any other questions about the request to speak?

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Oh sorry. Please vote.

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Just waiting on one vote.

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Councillor Piccad, are you with us?

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Yes. Thank you. We have all the votes.

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Great. And please

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just wait a vote. And that is carried.

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And now Councillor Jams, you haven't done a motion yet.

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Would you like to do the time-specific?

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I love you.

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Click to help me with the wording.

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We will do that on the screen.

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Oh, thank you.

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I move that item 7.6 active transportation acceleration program update, be moved to the first item of business, and that 7.1 impact of weather events on construction projects, the verbal report, be the second item of business, 7.3 public art, to enhance Edmonton's public realm policy, be the third item of business and climate resilience policy, review, be the fourth item of business.

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Would you like to introduce?

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Yeah, this will allow us to, there's a couple of times sensitive decisions that we need to make.

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Everything's important. We want to get to all of it, but this will allow us for meeting management to be smoother.

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Yeah, and I would just add that we've just ordered all of them, the Empire were tized.

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All of the items were speakers on them, so that we go through first, so this does mean.

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If you were signed up for the item on the bike plan, and you thought you would be later in the afternoon,

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we're actually going to start the panels as our first item of business if this motion passes.

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So if you know people that are also wanting to speak to this or register to speak,

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we know the clerk I asked I confirmed will be sending out notification to all the speakers of the change in orders of the day.

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It's more pertinent for anybody that would be listed in panel one, because we will do

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doing those speakers in panels of 15, and I'll explain what that means in a little bit,

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but I just wanted to help, because I know some new faces, some people that maybe have never

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been here before, and we were making a lot of changes to do agenda management, and I wanted

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to just help the public follow along.

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And with that, please vote.

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Yes, I'm sorry. Thank you Councillor Pequette. We have all the votes. Please display the votes and that is carried.

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I have not received any council inquiries so we do not have any council inquiries at this time.

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We do not have any reports to be dealt with at a different meeting.

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We've passed the request for rescheduled, and so we can just move now but into our first

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item as per our new amended agenda, so that will be item 7.6, active transportation implementation

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acceleration program update.

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Again, I just want to give a little bit of context on both process and then expectations

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as we go into to the meeting. What we typically do is we have administration, we'll do their

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full presentation and then once they're finished their presentation that's when we go into

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speakers. When we have a lot of speakers as is the case with this item we do it in panels so

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you will be in a one of five panels if you're registered to speak on this item and the clerk will

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let you know which panel you are.

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And then within your panel, you'll all be called up.

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If you're in chambers, you would come to these seats here.

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If you are online, you would just identify that you're here.

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And then we let every panelist speak for the three minutes

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that we've now decided is the timing for this agenda today.

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And then after every panelist has spoken,

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that's when committee members and other members of council

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We'll have an opportunity to ask the speakers any questions they have.

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So you'll want to stay around if you possible to for the question period with counselors.

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Once all questions have been asked of the public then Council will move on to the next panel and so forth until all panels are completed.

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Once all panels are completed and we've asked all our questions to the public.

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That's when we go back to administration and have our questions and any direction

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that we'll give to administration.

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So I hope that helps break that down.

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And I also do want to remind everyone that we really pride ourselves on being a very open

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level of government.

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But with that, we need to make sure that we are respectful of one another, both in person

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So there is a full diversity of opinions that exist in our community.

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And so my role as chair is to moderate the nature of the content being discussed is not to moderate the nature of the content being discussed

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between sure behaviors are safe,

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respectful and neutral spaces for my colleagues, city employees and the public.

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So disrespectful comments, including the use of profane language or gestures, behaviors like shouting, cheering, clapping will not be tolerated,

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as well as the use of the raised hand feature chat, uh, emoticons, those kind of things,

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or using any AI note-taking tools in the virtual meet are not permitted. So, um, you know,

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we don't, we don't like to have to do it, but we will, uh, ask security to remove anybody that

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is violating these expectations, um, and they will not be permitted to rejoin the meeting and

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not be provided any additional warnings. So I just want to start with that context and I think

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that's a Madam Clerk have I covered everything? Yes you did. Thank you. And now we will go to

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the presentation from administration. Please go ahead. Good morning. I want to begin by saying that

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we're grateful for the opportunity to provide clarity around this update and what we're seeking

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from committee today. Before I hand things over to Sarah and her team, I wanted to provide

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a bit of additional context and I wanted to apologize to committee as well. And the public

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for the confusion this item may have caused, including the multiple updated attachments we

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issued as we worked through this file. While we should have this finalized before bringing it

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forward, this time is allowed administration to work through the details and getting greater clarity

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on the path forward.

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To this end, the Tasman Phi was updated yesterday to clarify the modified approach.

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Council's direction has been clear and we are implementing the Active Transportation

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Network Expansion Program.

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Over the last several months, the context in which we deliver this program has been shifting.

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We've also received a lot of feedback on trade-offs and wanted to give the committee an

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update on an and a chance to consider a modified approach.

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From a governance perspective, it's important that we bring emerging issues to council when

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We could have impact on previous direction.

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As mentioned, we've made another update to attachment five to bring more clarity to the modified approach.

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We're looking at in the program across the buckets of work.

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One in completed infrastructure, all routes completed to date that remain in place as key connections in our network.

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Currently, our second currently under construction, the projects actively being built.

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Third, evaluated routes moving forward as planned.

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those routes that are planned and not impact travel into parking, these will proceed as planned.

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Noting that, we're nearing the end of 2026 construction season, implementing will span both

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this year and next and fourth.

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We're viewing routes that further opportunities for potential redesign. So the remaining routes that will be evaluated for options for trade-offs, alternative designs, treatments, and funding impacts.

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In Q1 of 2027, we plan to bring forward a report outlining the options for these remaining routes and will include an update on the remaining funding and budget implications as well for council direction and approval.

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To provide more details on where we're at, we'd have to propose and how we propose to handle the next phase of this program, I will now hand things over to Sarah.

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Thank you.

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When Council approved the funding of this program, the direction was to build district connectors to rapidly expand the active transportation network.

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We were responsible for selecting the specific routes that would best deliver that direction.

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Since then, administration has delivered over 40 new connections and is on track to complete nearly 50 kilometers of network routes by the end of 2026.

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To fast-track delivery, administration focused on informing residents about plan changes with direct outreach reserved for property owners facing specific access impacts.

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Adding roots to mature neighborhoods requires reallocating limited street space, which results

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in trade-offs, like moving on street parking, reconfiguring driving lanes, and changing

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local traffic patterns.

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Less complex locations, those requiring fewer trade-offs were designed and installed first,

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with a focus on rapid implementation.

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And roots requiring more complex design solutions and trade-offs, rescheduled for later phases

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to allow adequate time for planning and that brings us to where we are today.

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For additional clarity, these are the act of transportation projects that are already

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underway and which will continue as planned.

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And these are the routes under the modified approach that will be evaluated for trade-offs,

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alternative design treatments and budget implications.

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Before we conclude our presentation in here for members of the public, I want to reiterate,

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Nothing is being canceled, but we are evaluating our options considering the trade-offs and design alternatives.

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We're committed to keeping this committee fully informed as we move forward and we'll provide further updates in Q127.

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With that, we look forward to questions from committee following public speakers. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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And now we will move to our first panel,

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but before we do Madam Clerk,

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can you confirm that you were able to send out

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that notification to the panelists?

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Or it'll confirm with our team.

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Yeah, I just want to,

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if there are people that are not in attendance,

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what we might do is just go through,

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if there's a lot of people that are not here on panel one,

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I'll start calling to get to 15 from panel two,

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just to give them do you see what I'm saying? Okay, perfect.

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So I'm going to start as I mentioned,

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calling up panel 1 and if you're here, please I just identify yourself and then the clerks will

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guide you to your seat. If you're online, please just unmute yourself and identify that you are here for us.

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So, in panel one we have Noah Acleew, Lou,

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Emily Stremel.

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Good morning.

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Thanks Emily.

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Okay, David Barry,

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Lyle Triton.

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Okay, please come down.

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The clerk will guide you.

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Dave Sutherland.

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To have, sorry to Dave unmute.

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Okay Kevin, we're Chintin,

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Erin Buttnic, please come down,

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Alex Broker,

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who did I hear

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good morning from Alex?

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Yes, that's me.

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Hi.

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Okay, perfect.

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Hannah Davis, Davidson,

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Keaton Hawkswell.

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Hello.

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Everett Horner,

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hello, Chris Chang Yan Phillips.

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Hope, turn your mind.

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Yep, perfect, thank you.

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Carly Chen,

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Brenda, Natch, Tegale Lee.

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Sorry if I'm not seeing your name appropriately.

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Natasha, is that you?

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Oh, Brenda, Brenda, sorry yes.

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Yep, just go over there and then Merlin Chen.

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Okay, and so that's one.

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So I have eight that have of that panel that said that they were available. So I'll start going into panel two for another

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seven

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Madam clerk, okay

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And then we can come back to those that were maybe not available for panel two. Okay, Kellyn Westman

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William Van Egan

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Cindy Westerhout

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He's come on down

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Michelle Nailer

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Foster Kirsha?

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Here.

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Here. Thank you, Foster.

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Rainer Lambers.

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Yes, I am here.

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Perfect, thank you, Rainer.

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Mike, who he hived?

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Hype?

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Brian Marclie.

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Yep, come on down.

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Elizabeth Fair.

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Perfect. Thank you, Elizabeth.

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And then,

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Care ambeer sink

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Terri Skidnik. Terri, did I see you raise your hand?

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Yep, okay. That's 15. So we'll start with with those 15 speakers.

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For those that have been here before, we usually do have lights that will give you an indicator.

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But because those lights are set to the five-minute timer, they're going to be offered today.

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So just please make sure to look up at the screen if you need to get a time check and it's on both sides.

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So if you want to look, that's the timer that we'll be using in chambers.

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Okay, and with that, I think we're ready to start.

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So we will go back to Emily for your three minutes presentation.

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So please go ahead.

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Do you have a good morning?

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Yep.

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I don't have a presentation, I think.

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Thanks.

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Good morning.

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My name's Emily.

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I'm living Wardow Damon and somebody that gets around by bike.

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I love getting around by bike.

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It makes my day better in a way that driving never dies.

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It keeps me healthy. It keeps a car off the road.

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The changes to this active infrastructure implementation

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are presented in the context of legislation that may be occurring at the provincial level.

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Edmonton voted for the Council that is in right now, and I voted for the previous Council,

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who made the active network promises that they did, and I think that should be honored,

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and I am going to read the first paragraph from the first chapter of Onturnie by Timothy Snyder.

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Do you have a way in advance? Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given, in times

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like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and

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then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power

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what it can do. And, since the petroleum obedience is a political tragedy, perhaps rulers do not

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initially know that citizens are willing to compromise this value or that principle. Perhaps

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the regime did not at first have the direct means of influencing citizens one way or another.

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I'd like to see the rest of my time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Emily. I appreciate you being here and now we move on to

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Lyle Triton.

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Thank you, Councillor.

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I've lived in many parts of Edmonton. Oh, I have a presentation.

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Is it?

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Okay, just pause the time. Can we make sure the presentation gets up?

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We're just loading it up now.

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Thank you.

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So I'll just wait till we see the presentation and then I'll start your time.

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Thank you.

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Excellent.

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Okay. Please go ahead.

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Thank you very much. Next slide, please.

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I've lived in many parts of Edmonton and Encyclot here for more than 50 years.

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Road cycling in Edmonton has become more dangerous for many reasons, including those shown.

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I was of vehicular cyclist. I no longer dare.

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But I still cycle throughout the city all year round.

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it's my preferred mode of transportation and my card lives in my garage most of the time.

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Next slide please. As I think forward to aging, I'm 61 now. I want to remain healthy and active

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and minimize my burden on our society and I know that a life without driving is coming for us all.

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I saw the limitations placed on my father when he quite correctly gave up his driver's license. It reduced his life.

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We have done some great next slide, please.

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We have done some great things with the network, but many are less than they could be.

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I disagree that it has been rapid, and I understand the concerns from pedestrians on mobs.

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I have concerns too.

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My ride here today was about 80% protected bike lane, and that part was a lovely.

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Next slide, please.

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I encourage Council to not slow down, to speed up, perhaps with a little less rigor in construction.

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Some of these projects have taken a very long time.

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Some stuff might get ripped out, but the government is going to do that if they're going to do that.

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And if you stop much of what you are doing today, they'll still rip stuff out.

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And we will be left with a more dangerous city than we could have.

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Next slide, please.

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Not everything people say about cyclists and infrastructure comes from a place of making a better city, on both sides.

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I have in use a car, but it lives on my property, not society's property.

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I remind Council that there are a few things under their control.

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Next slide, please.

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But more active transportation is better for everyone in our shared society,

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and that only comes from good, direct connections that work for people to get them where they need to go.

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Thank you. I see the rest of my time.

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Thank you very much. And now we will go to air and

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button it. I think that's the next one that I have here. Yep.

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Good morning. I'm Aaron Buttonick with the Yegbite Coalition. We support

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at me and we support all of the Roots Plan for 2026, proceeding on schedule. These Roots

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are not new ideas. They have been through years of planning, data review, public engagement,

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prior to this project through bike plan, engineering, review, and design iterations.

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They were selected because they were, would contribute to a connected, safe, and useful

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active transportation network.

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We've learned a lot from the routes already built.

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The program had some stumbles early on, but the AT&T team has learned from those challenges

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01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:10,810
and we've seen meaningful improvements in execution, design, and delivery.

465
01:06:11,710 --> 01:06:16,230
In particular, many of the routes for this year are probably some of the best examples

466
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:18,790
of their type that we've seen in the city anywhere.

467
01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:25,190
There are still legitimate opportunities to improve design, of course, engagement and implementation

468
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:32,230
as well, but these are reasons to build their remaining routes better, not reasons to put

469
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:33,630
them back on the drawing board.

470
01:06:34,550 --> 01:06:38,770
The remaining routes are more complex because they require difficult trade-offs between parking,

471
01:06:39,150 --> 01:06:42,470
vehicle lanes, trees, utilities, and safe infrastructure.

472
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:45,790
Solving those trade-offs is the work of transportation planning.

473
01:06:46,690 --> 01:06:49,650
We want to see at me continue into the next budget as well,

474
01:06:50,110 --> 01:06:51,650
with the focus on improving this connectivity,

475
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:53,650
infrastructure quality and safety.

476
01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:55,530
We really don't need to start over.

477
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:58,970
We need to keep improving and we need to keep building this year.

478
01:06:59,590 --> 01:07:00,290
Thank you.

479
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:03,160
Thank you very much.

480
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:07,000
And now we will go to Alex Brooker online.

481
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:13,970
Hi, good morning.

482
01:07:14,830 --> 01:07:15,490
Good morning, please go.

483
01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:16,350
I'm here.

484
01:07:17,110 --> 01:07:18,970
I'm here today to voice my support

485
01:07:18,970 --> 01:07:24,910
for the continued do about the city's active transportation network and to speak against the

486
01:07:24,910 --> 01:07:26,670
recommendation from city administration.

487
01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:29,970
So, firstly, we just had an election where the...

488
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:38,180
The active transportation network bill that was a key issue and where the threats of the provincial government's legislation were hanging over this topic, even then.

489
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:42,880
Edmontonians made their choice, so I'm not thrilled that this is even being considered again.

490
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:58,440
To talk about why I'm in favor of the continued bill about our active transportation network in particular, I live on 79th Street in Idaho wild, which is slated to turn from a two-way road with parking to a one-way and protected bike lanes.

491
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,180
I could not be more in favor of this change.

492
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,360
The bike lane will allow my son, the opportunity to get it on the neighborhood,

493
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,460
and one is all enough to get to school safely on his bike.

494
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,440
Without the need for his parents to add an additional card to corner streets with traffic.

495
01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:19,120
The bike lane would also allow me to commute to downtown safely on my bike.

496
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Every day I see kids and people of all ages biking up and down 79th street.

497
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:32,020
And I just think to myself, I hope they don't get hit by a car and I hope the city provides them a safe place to ride on the road.

498
01:08:33,140 --> 01:08:39,520
My wife and I love to take our bikes out for fun and errands when we can, but frankly we don't use them as much as we would.

499
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:48,980
Almost without fail, every time we are out and biking on the streets, we encounter neither overtly aggressive behavior or passive aggressive behavior from motorists.

500
01:08:48,980 --> 01:08:55,700
Well, we need as a place on the street where cyclists belong, which would make it nicer for everyone.

501
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,920
So with respect to Saturday Night Street in particular, taking away a direction of travel,

502
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,640
we'll limit the amount of people ripping through our neighborhood, keeping us safer.

503
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,240
Again, we're referring to some and other kids playing around Saturday Night Street.

504
01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:12,680
If you can limit the number of distracting aggressive drivers in the neighborhood,

505
01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:14,520
our neighborhood will be safer.

506
01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:22,860
I have a car and I drive for the majority of my trips, but I park my car in my garage and I

507
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:29,180
recognize there would still be many ways in and out of our neighborhood. My guests also already

508
01:09:29,180 --> 01:09:36,920
never park their car in 79th Street, preferring instead to park along a side street. I see the time,

509
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:43,700
so I will conclude by saying that when we're being a material for today's hearing, I was surprised

510
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:48,640
to see that many bike lanes, including the 79th Street portion, had not even been put out to

511
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,300
tender yet.

512
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,180
The active transportation network build-out has been under discussion and in the process of being

513
01:09:54,180 --> 01:09:58,920
implemented for several years with a municipal election also occurring in that time.

514
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,520
Edmontonies have had their say, and administration needs to get on with building out the remaining

515
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,200
portions of the bike lane, but the provincial government wants to come in and take and

516
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:16,020
tax payer funds, tax payer funds, destroying infrastructure. That's on them. Thank you.

517
01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:23,010
Thank you very much, and now I will move to Keaton Hawkswell, which is also online.

518
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,240
I'll tell a while there's been this notion that we are just talking past each other.

519
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:37,000
We just need one more round of consultation, one more town hall, one more audit in the journal

520
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:45,360
or Instagram posts. The problem may just be that on key values, some people, fundamentally

521
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:51,460
called opposing beliefs. This attack on bike lanes is not about a lack of consultation.

522
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,920
They just don't like cyclists. The van on speed cameras, it's not some misunderstanding

523
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:05,260
over how funds were used. They just want to drive as fast as possible. They are opposed

524
01:11:05,260 --> 01:11:11,100
departments, they are opposed to traffic calming, they are opposed to the idea that cyclists

525
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:16,240
have the same right to the road as they do. They are opposed to the idea that the safety

526
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:21,320
of a child crossing the road could take precedence over their desire to get to Costco

527
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:27,940
as fast as possible. This isn't every resident, but you have to realize that if you believe

528
01:11:27,940 --> 01:11:34,200
in climate change, that less people should die on our streets than the people organizing these protests,

529
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:41,280
the people lobbying out of town politicians, the failed politicians who literally run against you.

530
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:48,680
Well, they oppose you. They are the opposition. The problem is that on key values,

531
01:11:49,580 --> 01:11:54,500
some of these people just hold opposing beliefs. We can't bull size this issue.

532
01:11:55,140 --> 01:12:00,180
We can't make our streets safe and never ask drivers to give up a little bit of space.

533
01:12:00,180 --> 01:12:06,800
Either we are going to make our street safer, or more people will die, that is the choice.

534
01:12:08,220 --> 01:12:10,760
There just might not be a compromise.

535
01:12:11,780 --> 01:12:17,200
They have already shown that they will crawl through the province to end bike lanes, to add speed enforcement,

536
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,360
and I'm sure you are aware that they want to do the same with info.

537
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:26,860
We might just have to realize that we are on different sides.

538
01:12:26,860 --> 01:12:33,740
The task isn't to find a happy solution. That makes everyone happy. It has, it is to what?

539
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,820
less people die.

540
01:12:36,820 --> 01:12:37,580
Thank you.

541
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:41,510
Thank you. And now, ever at Horner?

542
01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:47,090
Thank you. Can you hear me, all right?

543
01:12:47,550 --> 01:12:49,070
We can't. Yes, please go ahead.

544
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:52,370
Thank you. Hi, my name is Everett.

545
01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:59,750
I live in Ward, Odemon. I've lived in Edmonton for the last eight years. And I have been on the car since

546
01:13:01,290 --> 01:13:09,330
So I use my bikes to get around as much as I possibly can, I use them to commute to appointments,

547
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:15,030
I use them to get groceries, I use them to go to work when I don't walk, I even take

548
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:15,890
my bike to Costco.

549
01:13:17,050 --> 01:13:23,950
When I'm doing this, I greatly value all the protected routes that we do have in place, and

550
01:13:23,950 --> 01:13:29,890
really wish we had more. I think that everyone deserves to be safe when they're

551
01:13:29,890 --> 01:13:35,590
commuting to work, when they're doing their daily activities, living their lives. And I think

552
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:41,470
the evidence from here in Edmonton from across North America and from around the world clearly

553
01:13:41,470 --> 01:13:49,550
shows that building more protected by pedestrian friendly infrastructure will make everyone safer.

554
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:54,090
drivers included. I am also a driver. I drive frequently for work.

555
01:13:55,690 --> 01:14:08,450
So I think the goal of this network expansion and the mandate that City Council has is to change the transportation habits of people in Edmonton.

556
01:14:08,770 --> 01:14:14,350
That is the state of goal. We want to incentivize more active transportation use.

557
01:14:14,350 --> 01:14:22,310
I agree with everything that's been said by those who spoke in before me, and I would say that the trade-offs just are necessary.

558
01:14:22,570 --> 01:14:30,390
If we want to change people's behavior, if we want to allow people like me who want to change their behavior,

559
01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:39,590
who change their behavior even further, it is just a reality that we need to make trade-offs with the way things have been done today.

560
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:49,150
We've decided as an electorate as a city through the recent election that we want things

561
01:14:49,150 --> 01:14:55,210
to change and change is always going to be a little bit uncomfortable and I firmly believe

562
01:14:55,210 --> 01:14:59,970
that we need to push on in deliverance.

563
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,000
During these network expansions, in recognizing where we can do things better, but not slowing down.

564
01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:14,940
And not allowing this potential network to be prejudged before it's even completed.

565
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:22,540
You know, too many of us have seen bike lanes that lead to nowhere, that don't connect to anything.

566
01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:26,680
And of course, if you build a road in the middle of nowhere, it's going to seem useless.

567
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:41,440
So we need to push on, we need to expand the network, we need to do more, not less, and only then can we allow the work to be judged fairly after it's really had a chance to deliver as promised.

568
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Thank you.

569
01:15:44,180 --> 01:15:44,820
Thank you.

570
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:50,140
And now we will go to Chris Cheng and Philips.

571
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:51,520
It's not good.

572
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:52,720
I don't know.

573
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:55,220
I can even consider this decision, I guess.

574
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,360
I'm going to talk to an resident.

575
01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:00,400
I'm going to have stereo on the phone or serial words.

576
01:16:00,700 --> 01:16:03,260
I walk, I drive at about 10 days.

577
01:16:03,260 --> 01:16:04,100
I run my bike.

578
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:07,300
And for most of our way to work, I work with confidence

579
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:08,840
that I wouldn't be telling.

580
01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:11,520
And with cloud and I say it's climate mitigation efforts

581
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,740
because after decades I've said it's an advocacy

582
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:15,560
and political masterizing those bikes.

583
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:18,260
I said you don't have to infiltrate back

584
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:23,520
the transcription of the structure for me to get there safely, and now you're considering

585
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,780
the burning of alcohol before it's a different beat.

586
01:16:27,180 --> 01:16:31,160
And let's go to the other speakers, I want to remind you of some of the equino-like

587
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,260
equations, keep safe from the way it serves.

588
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,480
What can you do this week?

589
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,300
A U of A student named Isaac Kornison, who's fighting down on our behalf.

590
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:43,380
He was a cross-country in track of youth and Goldenbergs, and he worked with

591
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:49,840
in physics, you saw the one, he was told that he struck a mirror in a hot truck, lost control

592
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,360
of his bike, and a lot of advice, and that fact rather going on.

593
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,200
Because that's not for the tragedy, but it was also a failure in our city to provide safe

594
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,140
and convenient options if you did not get what they need to go.

595
01:17:01,900 --> 01:17:06,740
Now, tell you the problem of gravely shoulder between facts and maybe I think the bike laying

596
01:17:06,740 --> 01:17:08,780
in other places were acceptable infrastructure.

597
01:17:08,780 --> 01:17:13,180
And now, I leave a little bit of some of the first and the easiest applications for the

598
01:17:13,180 --> 01:17:13,720
intensity.

599
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,060
I was walking through one of the last nights.

600
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:20,640
And some of the people I saw are using those links included, like, our neighbor biking with

601
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,820
flowers and the communities, because she's well-cooked all of this easier to bike and to walk.

602
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:29,760
I think kids and push schools that show that excuse me, that I don't buy a kid biking alone

603
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,320
into the playground, a senior biking alone, friends who want to talk to you, kind of like,

604
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,580
I don't know if other people over all ages were laughing and having fun and not dying.

605
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:43,040
My grandparents don't have fun talking a few years ago after we got my clients all across.

606
01:17:43,340 --> 01:17:46,420
And they didn't like them because some of our streets are blown way down,

607
01:17:46,460 --> 01:17:48,400
it's a little harder for them to get around a point parking.

608
01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:51,980
But they don't, they travel through it.

609
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,980
And I love that now and I can do it.

610
01:17:54,060 --> 01:17:56,980
I'm confident that I'm tensed over the world of my father.

611
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,280
I'm not going to be killed by a truck driver who's near about three close,

612
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,660
or a car opening their door in front of me in a painted way.

613
01:18:03,660 --> 01:18:09,820
I think other women tell me, and all parts of the city deserve that choice, and we're counting on you to deliver on that promise.

614
01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:15,520
As some of the other people in the country, your job is to need the city that serves the people who live here,

615
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:22,800
not to bother them in advance to a concentration minister who doesn't care about our city, who wants to take us against the federal, who's making a road,

616
01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:26,560
and I'll highlight more dangerous and call you funded, who raises a glass of Donald Trump.

617
01:18:26,780 --> 01:18:28,500
A lot of us have lost jobs in public.

618
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:34,180
So if you're thinking a lot of things last, this is not the point of personal launch, making

619
01:18:34,180 --> 01:18:38,900
a decision about how we get around safely, we expect you to put up a fight when people

620
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:42,500
like this come for our future, so please hope for us.

621
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:46,020
Thank you.

622
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,740
Are you, you're complete your time?

623
01:18:50,170 --> 01:18:50,350
Okay.

624
01:18:50,830 --> 01:18:51,710
And Brenda.

625
01:18:57,060 --> 01:19:01,060
So I have to agree with what everybody has said before.

626
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,020
I would just like to put my personal spin on it.

627
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,160
So I'm a driver, a pedestrian, a public transit rider, and a cyclist.

628
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:16,120
I commute on my bike between Larksburg to show it park roughly three times a week, and it's a minimum of 20 kilometers each way.

629
01:19:16,780 --> 01:19:22,340
50th street is the only way I can make it safely, and I can do this only because of the new shared use pathway,

630
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:25,020
between Roper Road and 100 and 1st staff.

631
01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:29,080
It is very busy, and I see people using it all the time.

632
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:37,600
like it is constant, however, north of a hundred and first street, I currently cut through industrial

633
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,820
roads and through gold stick park on an extremely steep, washed-out trail with loose gravel

634
01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:48,780
to make it to gold bar park so I can go across the river. This is because behind,

635
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,280
about between a hundred and first and a hundred and six bath, the long 50th street,

636
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,420
I regularly see people speeding up to 70 kilometers per hour and the sidewalks are narrow

637
01:19:57,420 --> 01:19:58,540
in poor condition.

638
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,720
Don't get me wrong, the roads are wide.

639
01:20:00,860 --> 01:20:01,920
There's lots of room.

640
01:20:03,340 --> 01:20:05,120
And I know 50th Street is getting a redesign

641
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,200
and not being canceled.

642
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,620
But I'm OK, and I'm OK with the current extended route.

643
01:20:11,060 --> 01:20:12,220
But many wouldn't be.

644
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,940
And these new bike lanes being planned could mean more people

645
01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:16,240
getting out of their vehicle and making

646
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,520
my probability trips.

647
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:20,780
In regards to redesign, for giving roads

648
01:20:20,780 --> 01:20:23,080
is a road design principle that uses the understanding

649
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,840
that drivers will make mistakes.

650
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,120
But the design of the road should

651
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,860
allow for recovery or to minimize injury or death.

652
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:34,220
On highways, this usually includes having a clear zone or breakway

653
01:20:34,220 --> 01:20:37,400
science, but can we make public roads and infrastructure

654
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,060
for giving for all users and not just vehicles?

655
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,900
Vehicles can cause expensive damage.

656
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,880
I mean, how many times is the vehicle hit the LRT or street

657
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,120
car in the past three weeks?

658
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,920
But if a cyclist or motorist, a cyclist, makes a mistake.

659
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,920
It costs the cyclists significantly more.

660
01:20:57,780 --> 01:21:01,460
The previous speaker spoke about this,

661
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:08,340
the student getting hit because of people opening or it was a mirror,

662
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,140
but people opening their doors.

663
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,600
Clear separation with a hard barrier,

664
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,820
and this could be a curb or Jersey barrier between vehicles and cyclists

665
01:21:16,820 --> 01:21:20,420
should absolutely be mandatory in areas with complexity and higher speeds.

666
01:21:20,420 --> 01:21:37,640
In addition, since the speeds cameras are now not allowed in most places, an alternative solution would be to have the roads redesigned to slow traffic down, which absolutely should include separated bike lanes, and if that means sacrificing some parking spots, it's a good balance.

667
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,800
Thank you very much for your time and I see the rest of my time.

668
01:21:43,220 --> 01:21:46,840
Thank you. And just for the record, how do you pronounce your last name?

669
01:21:46,980 --> 01:21:50,600
Because I think I really did a terrible job. It's Nightingale. Nightingale?

670
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,140
Yeah. Well, I really did the bad job. Okay.

671
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:58,300
Thank you. I'll make no to that for next time.

672
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:01,280
Cindy, Wester, Hout.

673
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Good morning. Yes. Do you have a presentation or just speaking?

674
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:06,880
I'm just speaking. Thank you. Please go ahead.

675
01:22:07,300 --> 01:22:10,940
Good morning. My name is Cindy Westerhout and I am a long-term resident in Hollywood

676
01:22:10,940 --> 01:22:17,400
and living on 79th street in 92nd Avenue. And I'm speaking on behalf of the Hollywood 79th street by

677
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:23,300
cleaning engagement group. I am a multi-model traveler. I drive. I walk. I ride the LRT and I cycle.

678
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:29,840
And our community does some port active transportation. We are pro thoughtful design creating meaningful.

679
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:43,060
We urge the committee to approve the administration's recommendation and attachment 5, and that is to pause and re-evaluate the design through consultation with local community.

680
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:51,240
The 79-street plan relies on outdated city-wide survey data from 2019 and 2020, and since then our reality has significantly changed.

681
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:58,220
We are already managing traffic, friction, and LRT signal delays, while also adapting

682
01:22:58,220 --> 01:23:01,540
to rapid infill density, which is squeezing street parking.

683
01:23:02,660 --> 01:23:08,660
This plan seems to have been designed in isolation, in a holler route, it imposes a bi-directional

684
01:23:08,660 --> 01:23:13,560
bike lane with a rigid one-way conversion, and eliminates northbound left-turns onto

685
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,040
91, 92, 93A, and 97 Avenue.

686
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:30,000
The city is on 25 design standards. It admits that by-directional facilities that have a high degree of risk, particularly at intersections and driveway locations.

687
01:23:30,780 --> 01:23:41,060
For residents, restricting these turns cut off primary routes home in and out and pushing vehicles already on to congested 75th Street or through unplowed back alleys.

688
01:23:42,180 --> 01:23:48,600
For the 47 front lots, homes on 79th street between White Avenue 101st Avenue, eliminating

689
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:53,820
curb space, forces visitors, home services, emergency services, and deliveries to park up

690
01:23:53,820 --> 01:23:55,180
to 200 meters away.

691
01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:00,280
Accessibility for three homes, accessibility parking for three homes has already been removed,

692
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,300
and loading zones for three churches will also be lost.

693
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:09,280
But what most critically disturbs me so far in the design that there are severe safety hazards

694
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:16,440
around a call school in Hollywood. Our principal Lisa Nortigol has highlighted three key pieces,

695
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:23,080
heavy vehicle dependencies one. Hollywood serves 420 French immersion student to come from across

696
01:24:24,260 --> 01:24:31,460
Edmonton. And over 84% of those students arrived by car, bus, or daycare, van. Family's need

697
01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:36,480
of safe place to drop their children. Bus loading is own conflict. The proposed shared path

698
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:39,420
we cut directly through an 80-meter bus load in zone

699
01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:42,480
where over 100 elementary students gather daily.

700
01:24:42,820 --> 01:24:44,960
Writing, bike, and e-suit or traffic through that

701
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,180
will create significant hazard.

702
01:24:47,980 --> 01:24:50,780
And finally, winter hazard, displacing drop-off traffic

703
01:24:50,780 --> 01:24:53,140
onto narrow side streets during winter, particularly

704
01:24:53,140 --> 01:24:56,480
when snow banks, narrow roads, and blind sight lines,

705
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,620
compounds these risks exponentially.

706
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,280
This is not theoretical, and in front of Hollywood School,

707
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:04,620
there stands a memorial bench dedicated to a student

708
01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:07,360
who was tragically killed in a traffic accident.

709
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,300
We cannot treat school safety as a trial and error experiments.

710
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,480
I hope you'll lay some out of time.

711
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:15,640
Thank you.

712
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:16,820
Thank you.

713
01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:21,360
And now we go to Michelle Nailer.

714
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:22,480
She's good.

715
01:25:23,260 --> 01:25:23,900
Thank you.

716
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,580
My name is Michelle Nailer.

717
01:25:26,180 --> 01:25:27,320
And I live in Hollywood.

718
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:29,080
I've lived there for 25 years.

719
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:31,320
So I'm also here with Cindy.

720
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:38,300
speaking on behalf of many concerned hallelujah citizens. We are obviously here to ask

721
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:44,880
City Council to remove 79th Street from the accelerated active transportation plan and I want

722
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:50,920
to say that I also support active transportation. The current 79th Street plan it really fails

723
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:56,640
to address many key issues and the trade-offs are just too great to stick with this current plan.

724
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Our first major issue is rushed really non-transparent decision-making process, and many

725
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:09,140
residents that we've heard from have said that engagement never really materialized at a local

726
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:09,560
level.

727
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:15,520
I think the city administration's own report states that to expedite timelines, they recycled

728
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:20,660
old engagement data instead of directly consulting those who have to live with these changes.

729
01:26:21,460 --> 01:26:26,040
Because of the rushed timelines, critical details like the total parking removal severe

730
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:31,640
turn restrictions and limited side street access were hidden from residents and many are still

731
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,700
just finding out now exactly what this plan is going to look like. So it's very difficult

732
01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:42,580
to figure out how it's even going to impact them. And I think that the administration

733
01:26:42,580 --> 01:26:48,120
report acknowledges that these severe trade-offs have triggered a spike in petitions, inquiries,

734
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,440
and community opposition. So really community needs are being marginalized in order to rush

735
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:55,460
during an infrastructure plan that doesn't work.

736
01:26:55,780 --> 01:26:58,460
Coming back to the table and looking at alternatives

737
01:26:58,460 --> 01:27:01,660
and looking at other ways that we can create

738
01:27:01,660 --> 01:27:04,980
an alternative plan is really important.

739
01:27:06,820 --> 01:27:09,680
So Cindy already talked about what's happening

740
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,580
at Hollywood School and I wanted to point out

741
01:27:11,580 --> 01:27:14,060
Vimey Rage Academy, they serve,

742
01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:15,900
I think almost 1500 students

743
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:17,900
and they'll face a similar situation.

744
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,280
They have 87% of their students driven

745
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:23,300
and a lot of that is because they have specialized

746
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:28,880
athletic equipment. So we're talking about schools that serve a population that comes in from a

747
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:34,380
cross-edmonton. These are not just neighborhood schools where people could make the choice to

748
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:41,120
ride their bikes. And I think that's important to note. They run off-site buses five times a day,

749
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:47,200
alongside 10 specialized buses for students and wheelchairs. So Vimey Ridge really needs that two way

750
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:54,900
access to 79th Street and 90th Avenue and I think our schools are feeling very concerned about

751
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:58,800
how this is going to look and at a busy time when they're trying to get ready for school,

752
01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:02,980
they're now concerned about how this is going to look. And they've invited council,

753
01:28:03,860 --> 01:28:08,780
cyclists come by the school next week when it's in when it's in and really see what their

754
01:28:08,780 --> 01:28:16,240
challenges are and then let's see whether we can't find other solutions. So I think we've already

755
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,440
said and we've seen that our neighborhoods are really being bombarded by a cumulative

756
01:28:21,580 --> 01:28:27,060
disruptions. There's so many different things happen impacting us and they're really all coming at once.

757
01:28:27,700 --> 01:28:34,320
And again, this is a recognized in administrative report. Sorry, so three minutes is goes quickly. Three minutes goes quickly.

758
01:28:34,940 --> 01:28:41,320
But there may be counselors that come back to you to ask you to finish your thoughts there. So thank you. Thank you so much.

759
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:49,230
and foster culture online, I think.

760
01:28:49,230 --> 01:28:49,830
Good morning.

761
01:28:50,210 --> 01:28:51,630
Please go ahead.

762
01:28:52,510 --> 01:28:53,830
Thank you, councillors.

763
01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:56,970
I'm opposed to the administration's proposal to stop

764
01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:59,570
with a late implementation of the Act of Transportation.

765
01:28:59,910 --> 01:29:03,150
It's an exaggeration, but the administration's proposal

766
01:29:03,150 --> 01:29:05,590
can guarantee the response for the mental legislation

767
01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:07,150
that doesn't exist.

768
01:29:07,630 --> 01:29:08,530
It cannot be predicted.

769
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:10,930
This gives the musical application work

770
01:29:10,930 --> 01:29:14,550
and effort that might be into developing the active community condition at work.

771
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:22,410
Of course, yet, the administration's proposal does not yet include any of the schedule to do alternatively

772
01:29:22,410 --> 01:29:23,410
to look at this infrastructure.

773
01:29:24,110 --> 01:29:27,970
You can make this kind of a monetary company opportunity to send you to a lot more local

774
01:29:27,970 --> 01:29:28,430
people.

775
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:32,510
But the administration is not proposing to complete that work, they are proposing to happen.

776
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:37,250
That is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unsafe.

777
01:29:37,950 --> 01:29:42,810
The law is the infrastructure, the critical infrastructure directly impacts the life family.

778
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:46,870
As my neighborhood Hollywood movies, the cook goes semi-wrench street bike movies,

779
01:29:47,290 --> 01:29:50,510
and it still operates to neighborhood bike ways to close for 90 seconds out.

780
01:29:50,810 --> 01:29:56,590
As well as in this circuit actually, both types of capital and one of the one in Australia,

781
01:29:56,770 --> 01:29:59,290
by the way, while bringing King Edward and Apple more to the side.

782
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:14,580
So, I already cycle off on the country where we all see this, to school on the personal items, but there are more trips that we can convert from driving to cycling, to safer, better connecting infrastructure that's constructed, as that one is the application for me.

783
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:26,620
There's a lot of new people in our city, we have to have safe, connected and fast alternatives to driving to each other, city needs affordable, that taxes is more than enough to purchase.

784
01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:34,280
And so you can separate and act as a necessary part of being a user sitting and you cannot be avoided.

785
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,000
Separated researchers say that they are the one including drivers.

786
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,200
They're the first ones to be included in drivers.

787
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,700
These children are the one letting all of our dollars go farther.

788
01:30:45,390 --> 01:30:47,090
Education system is an necessity.

789
01:30:50,980 --> 01:30:51,920
You can be interested in the proposal.

790
01:30:59,620 --> 01:31:00,740
Thank you very much.

791
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:06,120
And now we will go to Rainer Limerick Limeers.

792
01:31:10,900 --> 01:31:12,280
Yes, that's Rainer Limeers.

793
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:24,500
I'm on weekends, I managed the bike file a on the corner by the old truck going

794
01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:31,500
on the foundation markets on Facebook, over 184 to Avenue, and the FLA has been going on

795
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:39,100
for three years and doubled the number of visitors year over year or two times, and I think

796
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:43,380
This is a great example of seeing Edmonton's bike time work.

797
01:31:43,780 --> 01:31:46,540
Other and more people are writing the bike studios

798
01:31:46,540 --> 01:31:47,760
who are going to find their phone with markets

799
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,460
and using our bike parking there.

800
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,280
They, we see families writing there with children on their own bikes,

801
01:31:55,340 --> 01:31:58,760
with cargo bikes, we see military leaders who come to bus

802
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,400
in front of the market, we see seniors

803
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,600
that are there writing old-fashioned paddle bikes or e-bikes.

804
01:32:05,980 --> 01:32:08,980
And I think that what you can see here is also

805
01:32:08,980 --> 01:32:15,020
how something like this helps old-stuff going out because old-stuff going out is a very vibrant neighborhood.

806
01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:18,360
There are a lot of businesses there who like to grow and do business work.

807
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,520
It's also a DJ character of old-stuff and not all these people can come by car.

808
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:30,080
Because there's no room for the cars and the cars actually detract from the vibrant and welcoming character that makes old-stuff going out.

809
01:32:33,180 --> 01:32:38,360
If you look at some of these bike lanes that are being postponed without for review or

810
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:43,740
some people would say councils here, they are, in other words, like, like Hollywood, like

811
01:32:43,740 --> 01:32:49,200
one you do, and they would allow people within a few kilometers of old truck coming up

812
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:54,780
to bike there, and I think it's also very clear if you look at this audience of people that

813
01:32:54,780 --> 01:33:01,320
like to old truck coming up and use our money, they are not people who would ride on busy roads with

814
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:07,560
lanes of cars roaring by. These people can do this only because the city has built a lot of

815
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:12,660
this protected active transportation infrastructure and

816
01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:17,740
we continue to reap these benefits

817
01:33:17,740 --> 01:33:24,900
if we build more of this type of infrastructure. And yes, regarding the concerns, yeah, provincial

818
01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:33,700
legislation, and when they do it, they do it, but let's not comply in anticipation. And yes,

819
01:33:33,700 --> 01:33:39,280
I think it's good to look at the little map satellite field and just look how much

820
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:45,060
walking there is in Edmonton and how much of it is used not at all or badly.

821
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:51,540
I think there are ways to in a considerate way, reduce the amount of space allocated to

822
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:56,960
parking and make this a friendly or city and save a lot of people who have to drive to drive.

823
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,620
Thank you.

824
01:33:57,780 --> 01:33:58,960
I will say the rest of my time.

825
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,980
Thank you. And now we will go to Brian Markley.

826
01:34:07,150 --> 01:34:11,270
A few weeks ago my mom was dored by a car. She was knocked off her bike and knocked

827
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:15,510
unconscious. She is over 70 years old and she is lucky to be alive.

828
01:34:16,150 --> 01:34:18,430
Be it resolved that the following are factual statements.

829
01:34:18,950 --> 01:34:22,490
Bike lanes save lives. Bike lanes reduce traffic congestion.

830
01:34:23,370 --> 01:34:27,290
By moving slower bicycles and congestion roadways or car lanes.

831
01:34:27,770 --> 01:34:29,670
Bike lanes reduce the need for parking.

832
01:34:30,190 --> 01:34:34,370
The city has a vision zero plan to eliminate road fatalities which is unachievable without

833
01:34:34,370 --> 01:34:37,610
bike lanes, refusal to build more bike lanes will cause more fatalities.

834
01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:43,290
My opinion is that choosing to slow bike lanes as plans should be done with the full knowledge

835
01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:47,050
and public admission from city council that the city is abandoning vision zero and things

836
01:34:47,050 --> 01:34:51,070
road fatalities are acceptable and dangerous roads should be tolerated.

837
01:34:51,370 --> 01:34:54,350
If you do this, you need to tell the people what they are getting.

838
01:34:54,830 --> 01:34:59,490
There is no getting around that, people will die, people will be injured, you have a simple

839
01:34:59,490 --> 01:35:05,530
problem here. On one track is a pickup truck on the other as a child. If you pull the switch and stop building bike lanes,

840
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:11,510
the truck driver kills the child. The child is run over and blood is on your hands. Is it a moral to pull the switch?

841
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:18,090
What if it was your child? What if it was your mother? So why are we doing this? What's the point?

842
01:35:18,410 --> 01:35:24,730
Because the province might pass legislation might maybe be compliance in advance. That is the worst position to start a negotiation.

843
01:35:24,730 --> 01:35:27,690
I think we all have learnt that by recent events.

844
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:31,910
We live in a democracy, but eminent did not vote for this provincial government.

845
01:35:32,370 --> 01:35:34,190
They do not represent it.

846
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:38,790
We voted for the municipal government, and we have elected three consecutive municipal

847
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:40,610
governments on pro-Bike-Lane mandates.

848
01:35:41,070 --> 01:35:45,530
The majority wants bike lanes and have responded that the lanes improved their community.

849
01:35:45,850 --> 01:35:47,130
I know they did for me.

850
01:35:47,470 --> 01:35:52,350
A vocal minority, with a grievance culture, can not be allowed to overturn the elected mandate

851
01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:53,930
to save lives and improve our city.

852
01:35:53,930 --> 01:35:58,450
That is your duty to the public good and to the Democratic mandate you were elected under.

853
01:35:58,750 --> 01:36:03,430
This is at a time when the province hasn't had a premier with two consecutive elections since Ralph Klein.

854
01:36:03,710 --> 01:36:07,050
We have gone through seven premieres in 13 years. They age like lettuce.

855
01:36:07,470 --> 01:36:10,730
And we should not allow this unstable regime to write our municipal laws.

856
01:36:11,090 --> 01:36:13,570
A regime that does not represent the people of Edmonton.

857
01:36:13,850 --> 01:36:17,410
This is a test case we all know what those some refuse to say it out loud.

858
01:36:17,730 --> 01:36:22,350
They are using a wedge issue in a manufactured culture word at a virus and expand their authority

859
01:36:22,350 --> 01:36:25,670
to municipal affairs in order to circumvent our democratic representation.

860
01:36:26,210 --> 01:36:26,630
What's next?

861
01:36:26,650 --> 01:36:30,270
Well, they tell us what flags we can fly at, city hall, will they make us take down the

862
01:36:30,270 --> 01:36:30,830
treaty flag?

863
01:36:31,150 --> 01:36:33,410
Well, they tell us to remove crosswalks.

864
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:39,170
Well, they make us tell us what books we're allowed in our public libraries and higher inspectors

865
01:36:39,170 --> 01:36:43,510
to tell us which are read, will they decide our zoning and tell us how it's all we can build

866
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:43,950
the building?

867
01:36:44,330 --> 01:36:47,330
Well, they tell us what businesses we can own in which ones we can shop at.

868
01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:48,550
Yes, it's a slippery slope.

869
01:36:48,910 --> 01:36:50,870
But some of this has already happened.

870
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:55,550
it is also a pattern of behavior. Will you oppose bad decisions which are not back

871
01:36:55,550 --> 01:37:00,430
the best engineering practices science or the electorate? The cost of a selfish political

872
01:37:00,430 --> 01:37:06,330
agenda is openly paid in lives. Do not comply in advance and never forget.

873
01:37:08,890 --> 01:37:09,570
I will email

874
01:37:09,570 --> 01:37:12,770
you the cut content. Thank you.

875
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:19,510
Sorry, I appreciate that. Yes, if anybody has things that they, that's a good point,

876
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:24,270
if anybody has things that they didn't get to say in their prepared comments because

877
01:37:24,270 --> 01:37:29,970
the time was reduced please know you can email the clerk and we will still we will still receive those.

878
01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:36,000
As well. So, thank you for that, good reminder. And now we go to Elizabeth Fair.

879
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:48,560
Thank you to council and committee for allowing me to speak today. There are a number of speakers here today to talk with facts, studies, research and anecdotes.

880
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:57,620
About how necessary, safe, bicycle infrastructure is to quality of life, moving people through the city, reducing pollution, and meeting climate change goals.

881
01:37:57,620 --> 01:38:08,780
I could add my voice to these statements and tell you facts and figures or how I want to ride into my old age and how you really don't want me to risk driving in 10 or 20 years.

882
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,460
But honestly, I think you already know all this.

883
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:20,340
So what I'd like to do today is to remind you of what Timothy Snyder said when he wrote his 20 lessons on tyranny in 2017.

884
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:26,540
Emily already read to you the first of four that I want to touch on.

885
01:38:26,540 --> 01:38:37,400
Lesson number one. Do not obey in advance. I know you don't want to spend money on building something that's being threatened with reversal and removal.

886
01:38:37,980 --> 01:38:47,120
But we are here to ask you not to obey in advance. Don't teach power what it can do. Make power fight.

887
01:38:47,120 --> 01:39:03,320
Lesson number 10, believe in truth. You are hearing facts today, results of studies, honest information, scientific rigor, personal truths of how mobility lanes affect safety, mobility, and individual lives.

888
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:15,080
There is verifiable truth, and you need to believe in it, and you need to act on it. Lesson number 16, learn from peers in other countries.

889
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:21,420
Yes, I do mean Amsterdam and Utrecht and Copenhagen, Paris and Montreal.

890
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:28,540
No country or city is going to find a solution by itself and I don't think we need to

891
01:39:28,540 --> 01:39:33,780
keep trying to reinvent the wheel or the best separated protected infrastructure.

892
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,800
I think the plans are already out there.

893
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:44,940
And finally, my plea to you on the Infrastructure Committee, and to the Council as a whole,

894
01:39:45,580 --> 01:39:51,520
you who were elected to continue promoting initiatives for our unhealth citizens, to support

895
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:58,840
in-film, to support public transit, to keep moving toward vision zero, and you who were elected

896
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:06,240
to promote and build out mobility lanes, even, or maybe even especially if that means taking

897
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:14,060
way parking, and slowing down traffic, discouraging driving, and therefore making everyone

898
01:40:14,060 --> 01:40:16,080
including drivers safer.

899
01:40:16,940 --> 01:40:25,100
My plea to you today is lesson number 20, be as courageous as you can.

900
01:40:25,780 --> 01:40:26,780
Thank you for your time.

901
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:27,840
I see the rest.

902
01:40:29,460 --> 01:40:30,380
Thank you.

903
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,760
And the last speaker in this panel is Terry Skidnik.

904
01:40:37,610 --> 01:40:44,430
I did have a presentation, but it's going to be very modified and rapid-fire.

905
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:49,680
Oh, wait, sorry.

906
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:50,500
There we go.

907
01:40:54,830 --> 01:40:58,670
All right, so, hello, everybody, I'm Terry Skidnik, I'm a board member with password

908
01:40:58,670 --> 01:40:59,090
people.

909
01:40:59,610 --> 01:41:04,550
I just wanted to, this was a campaign, actually, that's currently underway that was intended

910
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:12,010
for the province, but we felt it was important just to share this with admin and city

911
01:41:12,010 --> 01:41:12,730
council as well.

912
01:41:12,890 --> 01:41:13,470
So next slide.

913
01:41:13,470 --> 01:41:18,810
I'm not going to go through this in detail, but I did this one a highlight that we have

914
01:41:18,810 --> 01:41:25,410
dozens of volunteers from the bike community that have been actively collecting postcards

915
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:32,770
or real grassroots campaign where people are able to share how our bike infrastructure contributes

916
01:41:32,770 --> 01:41:35,350
to the quality of life in Edmonton.

917
01:41:36,010 --> 01:41:42,710
And so we collected 1500 but 600 were downloaded to form the summary for this report.

918
01:41:42,710 --> 01:41:50,750
And again, things like safety, mobility, health, affordability,

919
01:41:51,730 --> 01:41:54,690
we're key areas that we're noted.

920
01:41:55,010 --> 01:41:58,750
I'm going to go off script here, although from this, though,

921
01:41:58,790 --> 01:42:04,610
in just again, highlight that we know that we're never

922
01:42:04,610 --> 01:42:08,430
we're adding and building active infrastructure in our city,

923
01:42:08,430 --> 01:42:16,170
generates strong opinions and concerns, but public resistance should not be the only measure

924
01:42:16,170 --> 01:42:17,450
to evaluate infrastructure.

925
01:42:18,110 --> 01:42:23,870
Major city building initiatives often face opposition at first, but leadership requires

926
01:42:23,870 --> 01:42:28,270
looking beyond short-term controversy to long-term community benefit.

927
01:42:28,670 --> 01:42:32,890
Some of the people who signed postcards actually live on byclaims and weren't necessarily

928
01:42:32,890 --> 01:42:37,010
in favor at first, were more unknown and what's going to happen.

929
01:42:37,010 --> 01:42:44,390
But their perspective changed when they recognized a lot of value to it.

930
01:42:44,530 --> 01:42:51,290
It was insightful comments throughout really from this process that we've been collecting.

931
01:42:51,310 --> 01:42:58,250
You know, a lot of people that support active transportation, but just not in front of their street.

932
01:42:58,610 --> 01:43:04,490
And we recognize that losing the convenience of parking is a tough one.

933
01:43:04,490 --> 01:43:19,910
But, you know, the network needs to go somewhere administration has identified some key corridors for this to happen to get people connected to destinations to increase ridership all those things are essential.

934
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:36,230
And so we really urge Council to reject any pause on the infrastructure and continue to move forward.

935
01:43:37,230 --> 01:43:46,690
Certainly, change is not easy in this way and uncomfortable, but Edmonton will need to continue building the city.

936
01:43:46,690 --> 01:43:54,490
It is planned for, and we can't pause when things just become uncomfortable.

937
01:43:54,890 --> 01:43:56,650
So thanks for moving forward.

938
01:43:56,850 --> 01:43:57,230
We hope.

939
01:43:58,650 --> 01:43:59,330
Thank you.

940
01:43:59,430 --> 01:44:00,130
And I apologize.

941
01:44:00,430 --> 01:44:00,950
I misspoke.

942
01:44:01,130 --> 01:44:02,890
We did miss one one speaker.

943
01:44:03,070 --> 01:44:04,410
That's also here in person.

944
01:44:04,910 --> 01:44:05,690
And on this panel.

945
01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:07,730
Karen being care.

946
01:44:07,870 --> 01:44:08,690
Karen Beersing.

947
01:44:09,550 --> 01:44:10,690
He's probably about missing you.

948
01:44:10,750 --> 01:44:10,870
Sorry.

949
01:44:11,010 --> 01:44:12,290
Please go ahead with your time.

950
01:44:13,370 --> 01:44:14,330
Thank you, Council.

951
01:44:14,330 --> 01:44:22,170
Well, I am here today to request the committee members to vote down this proposed pause on

952
01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:22,710
bike lanes.

953
01:44:23,470 --> 01:44:28,110
I started cycling four years ago when this council actually first voted for the original

954
01:44:28,110 --> 01:44:29,110
infrastructure funding.

955
01:44:29,310 --> 01:44:32,650
I was convinced by a friend actually that soon it will become very easy to bike around the

956
01:44:32,650 --> 01:44:33,010
city.

957
01:44:33,530 --> 01:44:37,210
And four years later I am a year-round cyclist, but I must say that a lot of her infrastructure

958
01:44:37,210 --> 01:44:38,910
is still lacking.

959
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:44,070
Like a lot of stuff that was supposed to be built by the end of this year is still not

960
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:47,650
delivered and now we have projects that are going to be running over time into next year

961
01:44:47,650 --> 01:44:51,810
in some projects if these proposed changes go through that actually won't get delivered

962
01:44:51,810 --> 01:44:52,550
at all.

963
01:44:52,910 --> 01:44:57,750
So for those reasons, I ask that you please make cycling safer and easier for everyone in

964
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:59,890
the city, especially for young people who are really struggling.

965
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,380
With affordability, cars, a really expensive insurance is really expensive. So please vote against these proposed changes and ask the admin to fast track the delivery of the remaining infrastructure.

966
01:45:11,540 --> 01:45:27,120
Having said that, no, I want to highlight why some of the routes that were planned for this year, I'm really excited to see them. For example, semi-9th Street, I have friends who are going to be buying a house in that area soon. They're getting a possession next month, so I'm really excited to go visit them by bike.

967
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:32,440
Another reason I really like that in infrastructure is because it's a bi-dressual bike lane

968
01:45:32,440 --> 01:45:36,540
Bi-dressual bike lanes in the city are some of the best infrastructure. You feel safe on them

969
01:45:36,540 --> 01:45:40,120
You have a little bit of extra room if you're riding with the young one

970
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:45,400
You can kind of ride beside them kind of teach them course them a little bit and it also improved safety

971
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:53,220
I know some concerns have been raised around kind of the school area there, but the area in school will be actually getting a shared use path

972
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:59,140
And that will help improve with the safety with the drop-offs on the 79th street.

973
01:46:00,340 --> 01:46:05,400
Then there's also the issue of how should we best use our public space, particularly the street space.

974
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:12,180
When I bike through there in that area on Sunday, the day you would expect there to be most number of cars parked,

975
01:46:12,260 --> 01:46:13,980
because it's a day off.

976
01:46:14,460 --> 01:46:17,820
I didn't see the parking being used a lot in that area.

977
01:46:17,820 --> 01:46:24,920
So I think from my observation and I'd buy through that area before as well and I never see that street completely full or anything.

978
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:30,260
I think it's a good street to put that bidirectional bike lane on.

979
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:35,720
One thing I forgot to mention that particularly when the admin is proposing this bike lane,

980
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:39,800
there are also some proposed changes to signalization at the intersections.

981
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:48,400
And honestly, I like them because when you provide a safe intersection to cross, where people can't take all sorts of turns.

982
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:53,200
For example, if sometimes some intersections don't have a right turn at some intersections.

983
01:46:53,640 --> 01:47:01,880
That actually makes it safer for cyclists to go through because then you're not dealing with somebody being on their phone and accidentally cutting you off or running into you as you're trying to clear intersection.

984
01:47:02,380 --> 01:47:08,400
So for that reason, there's lots to be excited about in the current slate of projects that are being proposed for this year.

985
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:14,880
So please vote against this proposed pause and make sure that this infrastructure gets implemented this year.

986
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:16,900
Thank you.

987
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,080
Thank you.

988
01:47:18,580 --> 01:47:21,860
And now, as we do the panel, we've just heard from all the speakers.

989
01:47:21,980 --> 01:47:32,000
We will go to any questions of any of our speakers from the public by committee or council members.

990
01:47:42,730 --> 01:47:44,030
I'm not seeing any.

991
01:47:44,590 --> 01:47:53,370
So we are one last call, yep, okay, and I am ready to move on to panel two then.

992
01:47:53,370 --> 01:47:57,350
So thank you so much for being here today, please stay, and if you'd like to listen

993
01:47:57,350 --> 01:48:01,990
to the other panelists or for the discussion, but thank you so much for everybody for being

994
01:48:01,990 --> 01:48:04,710
here and sharing your thoughts with us,

995
01:48:07,180 --> 01:48:07,440
okay?

996
01:48:07,540 --> 01:48:14,420
And I will start to call for panel two, and I did see somebody just a reminder to not use

997
01:48:14,420 --> 01:48:17,900
raised hand function in the chat online.

998
01:48:20,300 --> 01:48:23,300
We recognize, we change the agenda. So anybody

999
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:30,020
that wasn't here when we called you for just the first panel here, you will be put in

1000
01:48:30,020 --> 01:48:34,200
another panel. So we are going to just try to keep going through, through folks, but you will

1001
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:39,020
be called again. So don't feel like you've missed your opportunity to speak. If you've joined a

1002
01:48:39,020 --> 01:48:46,000
later and missed your name being called. Okay so now we will move on to calling for

1003
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:50,220
speakers for panel two and so just the Madam Clerk I just go straight to

1004
01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:56,020
panel two or Councillor Rutherford yes you can start panel two beginning with the

1005
01:48:56,020 --> 01:49:08,820
first speaker. Okay so Kellan Westman are you online? I am. Okay. William

1006
01:49:08,820 --> 01:49:19,450
then Aga and good. Yes, yes, I'm here. Thank you. Thank you. And then we have page

1007
01:49:19,450 --> 01:49:20,070
important.

1008
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:33,980
Not seen them. Okay, and Mike Hube,

1009
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:36,600
remote,

1010
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,200
Alice and Macintosh.

1011
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:54,960
Olivia Minard. Yep, please come down.

1012
01:49:59,220 --> 01:50:00,160
Jacob Krieger,

1013
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:02,740
remote.

1014
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:06,900
Jacob are you online?

1015
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:12,720
Sheila Campbell.

1016
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:17,560
present.

1017
01:50:26,700 --> 01:50:32,140
And then just keep going through the next one as well. Okay. Sarah Busbee.

1018
01:50:33,700 --> 01:50:35,340
Yep, please come down.

1019
01:50:40,150 --> 01:50:47,930
So I'm just one, two, three, four. Okay, Alex Busbee. Yep,

1020
01:50:55,850 --> 01:50:56,210
Laura.

1021
01:50:57,030 --> 01:51:04,190
Delaw, hey, hi, hi, hi, I really feel bad for how I'm saying these things Laura.

1022
01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:12,380
Keith Hezlinga, Keith Yep,

1023
01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:19,130
Michael rolling off,

1024
01:51:21,540 --> 01:51:21,940
remote,

1025
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:30,470
Austin Nielsen Penner, yep, please

1026
01:51:30,470 --> 01:51:31,270
come down.

1027
01:51:33,620 --> 01:51:34,580
Brad these in.

1028
01:51:37,790 --> 01:51:43,890
Brad these in. Okay come back to Juliana Weber.

1029
01:51:50,710 --> 01:51:53,570
Kida Hill. Sorry

1030
01:51:53,570 --> 01:52:03,610
did I hear somebody in the audience? Kida? Yeah. Okay thank you. Ben German Frank

1031
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,560
Blake Johnson.

1032
01:52:15,340 --> 01:52:19,200
Here, Blake is online, okay?

1033
01:52:19,420 --> 01:52:20,480
Correct, yes.

1034
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,360
Kristen Constable.

1035
01:52:23,540 --> 01:52:24,000
Go!

1036
01:52:24,700 --> 01:52:24,940
Go!

1037
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:26,900
Edwin Shale.

1038
01:52:32,860 --> 01:52:38,460
And Theresa Felling. Okay. I'm just going to do a count. Just give me one second.

1039
01:52:52,580 --> 01:52:54,720
Okay. Cameron Smithers.

1040
01:52:58,580 --> 01:52:59,420
Ian Holds.

1041
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:04,120
Hold a hazzler. Good morning. Good morning. I'm on line. Okay.

1042
01:53:08,110 --> 01:53:11,650
And Marcel, who coolock,

1043
01:53:15,860 --> 01:53:16,620
Tyrell brochure.

1044
01:53:19,140 --> 01:53:30,130
Okay, and that's that'll complete our second panel that's 15 okay and so we will begin I will go back

1045
01:53:31,460 --> 01:53:38,040
and the clerk will keep me on my toes if I missed anybody as she did with the first panel so don't worry if I didn't say it if I missed your name

1046
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:42,170
we will not get through this panel without having you speak so we will go to

1047
01:53:43,310 --> 01:53:45,770
Kellyanne Westman first.

1048
01:53:49,390 --> 01:53:51,710
Thank you. My name is Kellyanne Westman. I'm a proud

1049
01:53:51,710 --> 01:53:54,790
at Metonian and I'm a resident of Bonnie Dune in Ashley's

1050
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:57,970
word there. I'm here today to request the counselors to

1051
01:53:57,970 --> 01:54:01,190
strike down any pause on the act of transportation at work

1052
01:54:01,190 --> 01:54:05,970
or cancel cancellation. We definitely need to be

1053
01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:10,510
going there. So my act of transportation history is as a

1054
01:54:10,510 --> 01:54:14,270
cyclist. I've done more than 20 years of year-round

1055
01:54:15,610 --> 01:54:21,270
and that includes our full household, including young children, age 4 and 6, also year round.

1056
01:54:22,290 --> 01:54:27,390
Because of the access of transportation, transportation, our family only needs to have one vehicle

1057
01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:28,950
and it rarely ever gets used.

1058
01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:33,490
And I recognize that the commitment to doing that safely

1059
01:54:33,490 --> 01:54:39,590
and also the challenges with the current structure was large for our family.

1060
01:54:40,110 --> 01:54:43,330
A lot of time and effort was spent to be able to find out a way to do this safely

1061
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:48,590
including moving to a neighborhood that felt like it was easier to do that.

1062
01:54:49,330 --> 01:54:53,370
And I recognize that not every family has that ability or those options.

1063
01:54:53,730 --> 01:54:56,710
And as a result, they're concluded from the joys that we're experiencing.

1064
01:54:59,610 --> 01:55:09,730
So I've also watched as the active transportation network has expanded that the people in my circle in our social circle have continued to increase

1065
01:55:09,730 --> 01:55:14,270
more and more to become users of act of transportation and experience these choice there's

1066
01:55:14,270 --> 01:55:19,250
a very strong correlation to what we build and how many more people that I have experienced

1067
01:55:19,250 --> 01:55:24,590
over my 20 years enjoying this and getting benefits of it and that goes to more than just

1068
01:55:24,590 --> 01:55:30,510
them. I mean, it's also the rest of the city with less cars on the road, et cetera. Also,

1069
01:55:30,770 --> 01:55:35,560
I'm the president and founder of an organization called Microsoft Alberta. We operate as

1070
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:41,520
and every week during the school year our volunteers ride to school alongside children and families in

1071
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:45,820
Lendrum, Muscle End, and Brotherhood Schools, and we're also launching one in the neighborhood of

1072
01:55:45,820 --> 01:55:51,420
Seekord, and Thomas King's Fall, and we have our sights set on many other. I bring this up because

1073
01:55:51,420 --> 01:55:59,340
the only reason that that organization needs to exist is because we've been prioritizing cars on our roads

1074
01:55:59,340 --> 01:56:06,360
for so many decades. It has become unsafe to use a bicycle to get around in the way that we

1075
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:13,260
used to in my childhood and those older than me and their childhood. We've now reached a point

1076
01:56:13,260 --> 01:56:18,580
where it feels like the only safe way to bring your child to school is to drive them. And that's

1077
01:56:18,580 --> 01:56:22,820
very sad because there's a lot of people that would otherwise do it differently.

1078
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:25,820
We need this.

1079
01:56:26,980 --> 01:56:33,500
People can get really spicy about bike lanes, but I think we can all agree that what we want is for our kids to get to school safely.

1080
01:56:34,740 --> 01:56:38,780
And I would argue that in most cases that that is not possible in its current state.

1081
01:56:39,300 --> 01:56:42,680
So please continue the transportation expansion.

1082
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:43,840
Thank you.

1083
01:56:45,700 --> 01:56:47,120
Thank you very much.

1084
01:56:47,420 --> 01:56:48,480
Now we go to William.

1085
01:56:49,220 --> 01:56:49,820
Then, Ian?

1086
01:56:52,780 --> 01:56:53,060
Hi.

1087
01:56:53,060 --> 01:57:00,300
Yeah, my name is Will Van Engen, and I'm also in support of continuing the active transport program.

1088
01:57:00,500 --> 01:57:04,600
I'm on Daddy Beauty right now, so there's going to be potentially another participant here.

1089
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,880
I wanted to provide a bit of an anecdotal experience.

1090
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:19,020
I used to live downtown in Edmonton, and at that time I'd like every eight of work with a winter summer for spring.

1091
01:57:20,060 --> 01:57:24,440
And as a result of that, my wife and I were able to have only one car which we didn't use that often.

1092
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,000
And affordability is something that everybody is talking about right now.

1093
01:57:28,180 --> 01:57:29,720
Cost of living is high.

1094
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:37,320
As a result of only having one car, we, I think, feel that the 10 years that we lived there, we would have saved tens of thousands of dollars.

1095
01:57:38,420 --> 01:57:44,840
We subsequently moved to the orphaned and we love our community and our neighborhood here that the infrastructure is not as good.

1096
01:57:45,420 --> 01:57:51,820
I have, I still try to bike as much as I can, but we haven't been able to survive on one vehicle.

1097
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:53,220
So we have two vehicles now.

1098
01:57:53,980 --> 01:58:00,300
So the issue of having bike lane accessibility is also an affordability question.

1099
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:05,800
And I think it's important, especially in this, the kind of context right now, economically,

1100
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:10,660
that people have that option, the ability to bike if they want to, and say,

1101
01:58:10,660 --> 01:58:15,580
considerable amount of money every year. So those are my two cents tonight. I think the

1102
01:58:15,580 --> 01:58:17,420
counselor is further for listening.

1103
01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:22,540
Thank you for being here with your plus one.

1104
01:58:25,790 --> 01:58:27,350
I think it's

1105
01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:36,670
Allison next correct madam chair. That's correct. Hey Allison Macintosh. Hi. My name's Allison and I'm

1106
01:58:36,670 --> 01:58:41,030
organizing with board meeting bikes. I'm in the first I had fun from the 8th street. I bought my

1107
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:44,750
nearly two years ago, I believe in how it has access to a bike line on 29 by now.

1108
01:58:44,930 --> 01:58:49,910
Instead, the city got rid of my 522 bus, did not replace it with on-demand in my area, and

1109
01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:50,830
there is still no bike line.

1110
01:58:51,330 --> 01:58:54,370
As a year-on cyclist, I can tell you that 79 Street is getting more dangerous.

1111
01:58:54,650 --> 01:58:58,550
It is increased for a bridge that I believe is being spurred by the UCP's agitation, and

1112
01:58:58,550 --> 01:59:00,810
winders that restrict the winglets in the winter.

1113
01:59:01,570 --> 01:59:05,910
This issue is being successfully polarized by the UCP to distract their base from privatizing

1114
01:59:05,910 --> 01:59:10,190
our healthcare and following the land to water at land and water to cold companies and data

1115
01:59:10,190 --> 01:59:14,070
centers. It's so clear to the people in Halloween, but we're going to keep bikes

1116
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:18,050
drawn up over the past four days. Most of whom support the bike lanes over open to

1117
01:59:18,050 --> 01:59:22,730
learning more if they have design information readily available, which, incidentally, lack

1118
01:59:22,730 --> 01:59:28,410
of available public design information is another limitation that admin is created to

1119
01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:33,970
implement the after-transpiration network expansion with community approval, class, all

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note. The memo that we're speaking about today says the densification and info is a challenge

1121
01:59:39,730 --> 01:59:42,670
to turn neighborhoods, they would be increased with after transportation.

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01:59:43,410 --> 01:59:46,710
I'm happy to have the neighbors, but in full benefits to the people who live in those homes

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01:59:46,710 --> 01:59:50,590
and the developers who build them, while after transportation, not infrastructure benefits

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01:59:50,590 --> 01:59:54,610
the entire neighborhood, including people who are creating, going to school or live in the

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01:59:54,610 --> 01:59:55,010
neighborhood.

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01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:59,830
There is no right to street parking, and those are best used for transportation, not

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If we're going to keep street parking, we must begin to charge for it to recap the public costs of free street parking.

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This council suffers from a lack of vision, or more, more generously, a low capacity to communicate their vision.

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I have a clear vision for a city that is dense, connected, low-class.

1130
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I know I'm trying to envision with the other speakers most of the other speakers here.

1131
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I'm running a couple of leaders and debtors, but if the council shares that view, they need to back that up with action.

1132
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We all voted for you with a vision for that dense connective world-class city.

1133
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As the public, we can't hold the administration accountable, but you can't, and you have to.

1134
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Council needs to hold admin accountable for implementing the after-transportation network extension.

1135
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In particular, they need to direct admin to tender the contract for starting the United States immediately.

1136
02:00:49,740 --> 02:00:54,700
One of me to you is disproportionately underserved by after transportation infrastructure and by

1137
02:00:54,700 --> 02:00:58,660
this proposed way, particularly the set side in Bonnie, June, Hollywood, forest side,

1138
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having more appellant in other parts of my life.

1139
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:07,260
I'm all acquainted with UCP Retali, Toyota, and Toyota Station, and I'll note that they often

1140
02:01:07,260 --> 02:01:11,040
build in rates to seek exemptions, but if you're tabling it, but I just say it would prove

1141
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:15,860
well, city admin delings, seeking that approval in my experience.

1142
02:01:15,860 --> 02:01:24,700
So if this legislation pops this, this committee and council also need to anticipate pushing them immediately to pursue the exemptions of all of the first record.

1143
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Thank you very much.

1144
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And Olivia Minard.

1145
02:01:33,860 --> 02:01:37,920
Thanks for having me. My name is Olivia. I'm also an activist with more than two bikes.

1146
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:44,760
My day job is I am an operations administrator for youth orchestra program for kids who live in priority neighborhoods.

1147
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:49,020
Most of the students I work with live in small apartments with several of their family

1148
02:01:49,020 --> 02:01:53,140
members who have limited access to cars, and before I did this work I worked as a school

1149
02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:56,400
teacher at Seencyceilio Junior High School, which is on one 30 second half.

1150
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:00,580
I remember as I would bike up to one 30 second half in the section that's not complete yet.

1151
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:04,200
Hards and hoards and crowds of students would stand on the sidewalk that there wouldn't

1152
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,900
be room for them and they would stand in the street.

1153
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,840
So I was very excited to both one 30 second half infrastructure being put in very grateful

1154
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:14,120
for it, because it allows students not to who are just cycling but students who are walking

1155
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:22,120
as the vast majority of students who do not have the resources to be driven to school by their parents get to school and safety is for all students.

1156
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:31,200
A few, about a month and a half ago, when we were at 50th Street, I was interviewed by City TV News, asking about my thoughts about the 50th Street bike lane.

1157
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And the question of the interviewer asked me is, do you believe that Minton has always been a car city and therefore will always be a car city?

1158
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And it's funny because it's a false dichotomy.

1159
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,060
Emoton has not always been a car city.

1160
02:02:42,220 --> 02:02:43,900
We used to be a street car city and before that,

1161
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we were a horse and buggy city.

1162
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,820
And we've made choices to the tune of billions and billions of dollars

1163
02:02:48,820 --> 02:02:50,360
to support being a car city.

1164
02:02:50,780 --> 02:02:52,140
It's always been a choice.

1165
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It's always been a choice.

1166
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And we've chosen to uphold a billion dollar industry

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for cars for wet's sake.

1168
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,600
And not saying the cars are useless.

1169
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:04,840
But I'm saying that we have prioritized this

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once again to the tune of billions and billions of dollars.

1171
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:10,680
at the expense of all other infrastructure and all other road users.

1172
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:17,420
And to me it's very important that we choose now to prioritize safety and to prioritize kids.

1173
02:03:17,860 --> 02:03:21,280
When a kid dies on one of these proposed routes because we didn't build it,

1174
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:26,380
will you say this was an tragedy that cannot have been prevented or will you stand by your choice and say,

1175
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:28,500
well, at least we could park in front of our houses.

1176
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:34,100
I oppose this proposal by administration and disappointed in them in their ability to finish projects on time,

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communicate clearly to shareholders when they were knocking on doors around 79 streets so many

1178
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:43,180
people were in support of the bike lane, but they had questions like, we're all the school buses

1179
02:03:43,180 --> 02:03:46,940
park, what about these other roads? All things that could be mitigated by clear communication.

1180
02:03:47,500 --> 02:03:50,960
I also think of administration's but council in a tough position when they only give two weeks

1181
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:57,580
of notice on these construction projects. It does not surprise me that people are shocked by the

1182
02:03:57,580 --> 02:04:01,260
clear change that's coming quicker and so I would hope that they would be more efficient with

1183
02:04:01,260 --> 02:04:05,900
communication. I think that would help a lot with people being open to it. So I am

1184
02:04:05,900 --> 02:04:10,220
pro kids being alive and that's why I'm pro bike land and I'm pro keeping the active

1185
02:04:10,220 --> 02:04:12,300
transport network expansion moving.

1186
02:04:15,550 --> 02:04:18,590
Thank you. Sheila Campbell.

1187
02:04:27,980 --> 02:04:31,360
Hello, I'm just a minute. I'm just turning on my hash.

1188
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:34,340
Can you hear me?

1189
02:04:34,340 --> 02:04:40,860
We can, yes. Okay, great. So hi. I've lived in the old Stratcona District of

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for 30 years, and if I'm most of my local

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02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:51,960
community and my bike year-round for all that time, I was able to use the shared

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02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:56,960
use path-level and Saskatchewan Drive to do this reasonably safely from my

1193
02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:01,240
commute to work at the University until I retired, and I always

1194
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:06,200
mainly laughed that people thought being too cold was a major hazard I faced

1195
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:10,560
by King and Winner, and it was always cars and ice ruts.

1196
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:17,940
Having a separate lane for active transportation made you known by King possible, and recently,

1197
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:23,940
the expanded bike network has made travel safer for many of the routes I used to get around

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02:05:23,940 --> 02:05:24,500
Edmonton.

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02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,360
I'd like to thank the City of Edmonton for making this possible.

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02:05:28,660 --> 02:05:34,660
It finally my tax dollars for transportation were going towards something besides endless

1201
02:05:34,660 --> 02:05:39,860
freeways with crumbling infrastructure. We have no realistic hope of ever maintaining.

1202
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:46,480
I'd also like to put in a plug for the value of the active transportation options

1203
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:52,260
that we're expanding for healthy living as I've watched my neighbors whose main exercise is

1204
02:05:52,260 --> 02:05:58,680
getting into another vehicle's gradually lose their mobility over the years to the point where

1205
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:02,960
are basically crippled. That, too, is a choice.

1206
02:06:04,940 --> 02:06:09,240
Not surprisingly, I was disappointed to hear that council is considering holding the expansion

1207
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:15,140
of this program, presumably in response to the intense backlash in both advice, some of

1208
02:06:15,140 --> 02:06:26,560
their, that were designed decisions. And while the general strategy of building from the

1209
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:33,100
and guidance on that, many of the specific design choices have baffled me.

1210
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:38,260
For example, the choice to send the bike route zigzagging down both sides of one of six

1211
02:06:38,260 --> 02:06:45,020
street to accommodate street parking instead of converting one of the lesser used nearby streets

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02:06:45,020 --> 02:06:49,040
to one way for cars and a protected chair use-laze.

1213
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And the planners ever written a bicycle in the winter here, not only did that choice

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02:06:54,700 --> 02:07:00,620
engage many people who use that route to commute by car, between the south side and the

1215
02:07:00,620 --> 02:07:05,560
university. It also made it very hard to negotiate that bike line and order

1216
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:11,540
to keep it clean and in-winner. Which then makes it less attractive to use and therefore

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farther for the bike lane haters who complain that they are just the waste of money.

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02:07:17,770 --> 02:07:21,730
In my opinion, a lot of grief could have been spared if the city had been more deliberate

1219
02:07:21,730 --> 02:07:28,770
and open in its engagement with the people who have to live with the consequences of these local decisions.

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02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:39,800
This speakers have described no more examples. I'm so I won't belabor this point. By sacrificing public consultation

1221
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:50,780
in favor of speed and rolling just hell, I hope that we can. The three messages up. I apologize. Again,

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02:07:50,980 --> 02:07:56,380
as I mentioned before, if there's anything you didn't get to say, due to the shortened time,

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Please feel free to submit to Council and the clerk.

1224
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Thank you.

1225
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,100
And Sarah Busby.

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Please find it.

1227
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Thank you.

1228
02:08:07,570 --> 02:08:08,790
Thank you, Council and Committee.

1229
02:08:08,990 --> 02:08:11,090
I live in Ward, Epico-Colone, Opio-C.

1230
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And I'm a year-round cyclist.

1231
02:08:13,230 --> 02:08:14,950
I co-founded Let's Bike There Yague,

1232
02:08:15,250 --> 02:08:17,150
because four women decided to do something.

1233
02:08:17,650 --> 02:08:18,670
They felt a little bit risky.

1234
02:08:19,370 --> 02:08:21,450
We were biking around Edmonton with our kids.

1235
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:24,490
The bike network was growing and it made it possible.

1236
02:08:24,950 --> 02:08:25,510
Not everywhere.

1237
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:27,710
and not for every trip, but enough.

1238
02:08:28,570 --> 02:08:31,230
And we wanted other families to be able to bike too.

1239
02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:33,510
So we started meeting at Playgrounds.

1240
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:37,030
Families could come and see how other families biking in Edmonton.

1241
02:08:37,510 --> 02:08:38,830
They could test ride cargo bikes.

1242
02:08:39,310 --> 02:08:41,430
The kids play while they add up to talk roads,

1243
02:08:42,010 --> 02:08:44,850
including routes that aren't intuitive because of missing links.

1244
02:08:45,370 --> 02:08:47,810
These are the links that Atme was created to fill.

1245
02:08:48,150 --> 02:08:49,550
We meet in every season.

1246
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:52,110
And our winter meetups are some of my favorites.

1247
02:08:52,110 --> 02:08:55,710
sledding and hot chocolate and bikes is an unbeatable combination.

1248
02:08:56,990 --> 02:09:00,470
And outside of our meetups, we all use bikes to get around.

1249
02:09:00,870 --> 02:09:04,250
We bike to school, to the library, to doctor's appointments,

1250
02:09:04,610 --> 02:09:08,110
to daycare, to Costco, to work extracurriculars,

1251
02:09:09,090 --> 02:09:11,070
the same places other families drive.

1252
02:09:12,030 --> 02:09:13,890
And something almost magical has happened.

1253
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:16,130
Our kids are becoming independent.

1254
02:09:16,970 --> 02:09:19,330
They have learned their city and how to navigate it.

1255
02:09:19,330 --> 02:09:22,290
They've learned that they don't need to be driven everywhere.

1256
02:09:22,830 --> 02:09:24,310
Their world is getting bigger.

1257
02:09:25,310 --> 02:09:27,670
And as Edmonton's actor transportation network has expanded,

1258
02:09:28,250 --> 02:09:29,750
more and more families have done the same.

1259
02:09:30,430 --> 02:09:32,290
I want to talk about my youngest for a minute.

1260
02:09:32,570 --> 02:09:33,510
He's here with me today.

1261
02:09:34,130 --> 02:09:36,710
He's just started to ride his pedal bike this in July.

1262
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:40,750
He's navigating the city under his own power for the first time.

1263
02:09:41,150 --> 02:09:45,770
The same city that he's been through in my cargo bike since he was three months old.

1264
02:09:46,330 --> 02:09:50,470
On the other end, my older kids are starting to ride without me.

1265
02:09:50,750 --> 02:09:52,870
They ride with each other and their friends.

1266
02:09:54,050 --> 02:09:55,710
The network has made that possible.

1267
02:09:56,510 --> 02:09:59,750
And I'm so proud of them, but I'm also terrified.

1268
02:10:00,470 --> 02:10:02,230
My daughter starts junior high next week,

1269
02:10:02,810 --> 02:10:05,070
and it's five kilometers to her designated school.

1270
02:10:05,550 --> 02:10:07,570
Her entire route is shared use paths.

1271
02:10:08,670 --> 02:10:09,790
But she's going to do it alone.

1272
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:14,430
Crossing slip lanes and driveways on shared use paths.

1273
02:10:16,190 --> 02:10:21,570
And I'm worried about the drivers who come out looking for cars and not bicycles.

1274
02:10:22,570 --> 02:10:23,710
They aren't necessarily reckless.

1275
02:10:24,230 --> 02:10:30,110
They're ordinary drivers navigating a system that has designed in conflict between modes of transportation.

1276
02:10:30,770 --> 02:10:31,750
That's the problem.

1277
02:10:32,270 --> 02:10:35,390
And that's why I'm so nervous about this recommendation.

1278
02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:39,510
The people who benefit most from connected active transportation

1279
02:10:39,950 --> 02:10:41,910
aren't people willing to take a lane in traffic.

1280
02:10:41,910 --> 02:10:47,170
It's kids' writing to school, parents' writing with children, seniors' writing to pickleball,

1281
02:10:47,790 --> 02:10:52,210
families who've discovered that a bicycle can replace their second car, and they're willing

1282
02:10:52,210 --> 02:10:56,130
to try because infrastructure has given them the confidence to do it.

1283
02:10:58,020 --> 02:11:02,600
I'm asking you to look at what has happened as this network has grown, look at the families

1284
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:04,900
who are using it, and the kids' gaining independence.

1285
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:08,220
So I ask you to oppose this recommendation.

1286
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:09,620
Thank you.

1287
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:14,640
Thank you, and Alex Busbee.

1288
02:11:15,980 --> 02:11:20,220
Hello, my name is Alex and I'm 13-year-old. I want to talk about two specific

1289
02:11:20,220 --> 02:11:25,580
bike lanes that matter to me. The ones on 17, 9, 3, and 50, is street. They're important to me

1290
02:11:25,580 --> 02:11:31,280
because they're let me bike to my grandma's house and she lives in full-time place. My grandma is 75

1291
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:35,880
and most buyers. She's probably one of my favorite people in the world and I want to be able to

1292
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:40,700
go see her without having to get my parents to drive me. I'd bike there with my family before. It's about

1293
02:11:40,700 --> 02:11:45,380
five minutes. But the last section may be two or three kilometers. It doesn't have a bike lane.

1294
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:49,880
And my parents won't let me ride by myself because it's not safe. I could take transit,

1295
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:54,560
but that takes almost two hours and three transfers. I could go by car, but then I need someone to drive

1296
02:11:54,560 --> 02:12:00,420
me. A protected bike lane on 79th street and another 150th street would connect to the parts of the

1297
02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:04,760
route that are all race safe. I'm asking for bike lanes because I want to be able to get to my

1298
02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:09,520
as I was by myself. I'm 13. I'm old enough to have some independence but I'm not old enough to drive.

1299
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,940
Please, don't delay these two projects. Thank you.

1300
02:12:15,420 --> 02:12:19,880
Thank you. I know that we all love when youth attend.

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02:12:24,860 --> 02:12:25,820
Keith, aslinga.

1302
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:31,140
Hello. Thank you. I'm Keith Hesslinga. I'm here from Bike Edmonton.

1303
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:37,640
I'd like to start off by thanking the committee members for changing around your meeting schedule so that we could all speak.

1304
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:41,260
I'd like to also thank all of my fellow cyclists and advocates.

1305
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:45,720
I did a quick count and there's over 60 of us who came here to talk to you today.

1306
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And I think that's really amazing.

1307
02:12:48,620 --> 02:12:49,600
I've been in this a long time.

1308
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:51,560
A lot of you recognize my face.

1309
02:12:51,780 --> 02:12:52,920
I certainly recognize yours.

1310
02:12:54,060 --> 02:12:56,940
And I kind of want to bring some of the experiences that I've had.

1311
02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:59,820
Like doing this work to this committee today.

1312
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:04,640
We've, in by Kevinton, we've done a lot of work with the ATNEE group to

1313
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:09,840
to advocate for what we've seen and probably one of the saddest things that I've experienced

1314
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:16,440
is I was talking to Pascal who leads up the department and I was talking about how we

1315
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:23,020
were trying to change things and her reply was that no matter what she did she was always

1316
02:13:23,020 --> 02:13:27,900
going to upset people or no one would be happy and I thought that was just absolutely hard

1317
02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:32,520
breaking as someone who used to design things and basically like my designs were kind of like

1318
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,640
kids, my kids are more important than my designs, but they were kind of like my kids and when

1319
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:42,560
someone didn't appreciate them that was heartbreaking in a professional sense. And it's really

1320
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:46,300
hard for them because they only are looking at people who don't know what it's going to look

1321
02:13:46,300 --> 02:13:52,680
like. I just moved and we moved to a place that has two bike lanes and that was an important

1322
02:13:52,680 --> 02:14:01,120
consideration for us for when we picked our new house. Last week I door knocked on 132nd and it was

1323
02:14:01,120 --> 02:14:07,160
amazing. How few complaints there were. One of my favorite complaints on a hundred and thirty

1324
02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:12,180
second was that the kids that were playing in the front yard were too loud and someone needed

1325
02:14:12,180 --> 02:14:17,880
to close their window. Which like if you if you look on like complaints like love it is on

1326
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:22,760
the complaint side and if that's all you're collecting that's a downside. But for me I thought

1327
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:28,520
that was an amazing change with what was happening on a hundred and thirty second. My friends

1328
02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:33,860
have Dornaut on 79th Street and also there's a lot of people who like what's going on.

1329
02:14:34,180 --> 02:14:38,780
We've Dornaut with a lot of you during the election to get a sense of what's going on.

1330
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:44,660
And I would say that we are in support of this as a whole town, not just cyclists.

1331
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:52,280
But one last thing I want to say as far as our goals, my members, they can't ride on news stories,

1332
02:14:52,820 --> 02:14:57,760
they can't ride on promises from the city manager, my members can't ride on Instagram

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reals of the counselors. My members own.

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I would like to share the personal economics of bike lanes to me. My family can only afford one vehicle, so I've used my bicycle to get to work for a long time.

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for the last four years in both summer and winter.

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Freeing up a single car has enabled my disabled wife

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to live a more fulfilling life and even take on a part-time job.

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I would not have been able to make the 12-kilometer trip

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to the Celenese EVA plant, which is where I was working

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when I started biking.

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If it had not been for the invention of affordable e-bikes,

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studied tires, which are becoming more well-known now,

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and a sufficient active transport network.

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For me personally, it was a new parent at the time, and it was life-changing to have reliable daily exercise with only an extra 20 minutes in each direction for my commute.

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I saved money on fuel and insurance, but more importantly, my mental health greatly improved.

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And I felt like I was able to have some small impact into making this place a better place to live through reduction of pollution, as well as reducing congestion and demand for fuel.

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Vocal costs of far outpaced inflation, both in terms of the purchase price of cars, as well as the fuel and especially insurance.

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This here my car insurance doubled with no accidents.

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As such, I applaud the rapid deployment that we have seen from the city of Edmonton for the network,

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especially considering the rising popularity of e-scooters which exist in an ambiguous state of regulation in terms of how they're actually operated.

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The fastest way to ease these issues, the tensions that come up from all these different modes is to have that active transportation network built out as quickly as possible.

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I haven't written administration to thank them for their work because I didn't realize that they were getting so much negative feedback.

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But that's why I'm here today to say that Edmonton's progress on accessible mobility is one of the things that makes me proud to live here.

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and it breaks my heart to see provincial interference and social media misinformation driving a wedge into

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something that seems like it should be so common sense. As Albertans, we love to discuss our freedom,

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and that freedom must absolutely extend to the options available to us when it comes to transportation.

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As citizens, we continue to be squeezed on the cost of living, which is only going to continue as the climate gets less predictable.

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and effective active transportation network, it's not a nice to have, but an essential part of

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infrastructure the same as the road network. This is life-saving, life-changing, and economically

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critical work. I'll see you in the last 25 seconds.

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Thank you, Kita Hill. Thank you. I just had one

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slide if we could pull that up for the end of the presentation, but I can get started right away.

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Are you sure we can wait till this slide comes up before we start your time?

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We're just pulling that out of no.

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Good

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morning, everyone. My name is Keita Hill.

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So years ago, on the city of Edmonton Youth Council,

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I shadowed transportation subcommittee meeting.

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Up for debate was whether to increase the active transportation budget to implement the bike plan.

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I spoke about the uplifting beauty of riding 9 kilometers through our river valley every morning.

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I asked that council to make it possible for more adventonians to share such experiences.

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I will never forget Mayor Vendell, pounding his fist on the table and saying, let's get it done.

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This summer, I've seen that dream coming to life. Edmontonians of all ages are writing, rolling, and smiling.

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In the program update, I saw that out of over 1000 recent public comments, scarcely 2% or positive.

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The report notes it is positive is typical for positive feedback to be shared less frequently than concerns.

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I am guilty of that exact silence. In fact, I believe two of the complaints were

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three-one ones that I submitted with some critiques. So I'm here today to

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correct the record. After that council meeting, I moved to Amsterdam, one of the

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great bike capitals. And when it was time to choose a permanent home, I built a

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spreadsheet scoring global cities on housing, nature and transportation

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infrastructure. Edmonton beat them all. I moved back, began a second career as a

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and I use our active transportation network every day.

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It brings me immense pride to be a citizen of this city.

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The question before us is worded delicately, but I will not mince words.

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Existing roads were built for cars.

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The question today is whether to fill the gaps in our fledgling active transportation network

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that occupies a small fraction of our roadways.

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To build a network that offers genuine choice across the city,

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we must fill in the 14 gaps that are tabled for re-evaluation,

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even if this means taking away street parking.

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We do not demand street parking on our urban freeways,

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because we recognize that some corridors must be specialized for movement.

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The backbone of our active transportation network demands the same logic,

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and we must act with conviction to build that backbone.

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However, conviction does not mean a lack of compromise.

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I fully support administration's call for creative design to maximize capacity.

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For example, bicycle-activated signals currently trigger a full pedestrian cycle.

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Shorter bike-specific timings can improve vehicle flow and reduce idling emissions without negative impacts.

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And if we could turn to attachment 1, page 6, we can see over a meter of empty cross section to the right of this temporary bike lane.

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In Amsterdam, bike lanes are primarily marked by red pavement and slight grade differences from the vehicle traveled way.

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Instead of physical dividers that take up precious cross-section, mirrors are also used to provide

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visibility around tight corners. In Edmonton, we have wider roads than many other cities,

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and if we maximize how we use every millimeter, we will build a bike network that matches

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or even surpasses the great bike capitals. Thank you. Thank you. And I will go to Blake Johnson.

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Hi

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there, I have a few slides.

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You have a few slides, is that the slides?

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Great idea, thank you.

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Hi, my name is Blake Johnson, and I'm a year-round cycling urban event.

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I would like to thank the City Administration who created the Bicycle Planet to graduate

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with them on accomplishing many of its construction objectives over the past four years.

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I support City Council and Administration in continuing to accomplish Bicycle and multimobility

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objectives over the next budget cycle, do not pause, state the course.

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In the late 1980s, I was educated by Peter Heppelston, an engineer in the city's transportation

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department about the four ease and building of successful bicycle plan.

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The four ease are engineering, education, enforcement, and enthusiasm.

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Peter was also an enthusiastic and ardent, all-season cyclist and stewardship, but at the

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tip of our scope, all-esties, and SML, and SML.

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When presenting to Council on 2022, I pointed out that there needed to be more focus on education

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and enforcement and encouragement.

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The whole plan is going to be

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Moving forward, I hope that the next case for bicycle infrastructure funding has a more balanced approach with our city elements.

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The city needs to meet people where they bicycle, hoping that people look online is not sufficient.

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The same year, the same year, Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, 1969, I took a battle pusher's course at After Elementary School.

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I loved it. This is not a view of bicycle training, it's still common in Europe, as it lowers risk for cyclists and motorists.

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Now if you're writing e-bikes and other electric mobility devices, and not surprisingly,

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our medical system is seeing you over your increases in accidents.

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This is just one specific example.

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The city needs to educate. Next slide,

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please.

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The city has to work with the image and police service.

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For enforcement, the city has to work with the image and police service.

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And I'll illustrate the penalties for not following the rules on the road and on the paths and trails.

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I work with the police in 1989.

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want to make a free magazine to promote bicycling and attention. In the magazine, I had an

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aerial map of this city and the EPS marked where the people could legally ride. I write almost

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every day into a bigger park with my dog and I talked a lot of park users as I slowly overtake them.

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I know that people do not like it when cyclists in a special e-bikes would pass them at high

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speeds without ringing their bell. What about? To a bigger city, I have a sign of mining river

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use of these goods of legislation by how about a sign about how to use a post the

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part post the rules and guidelines that set the expectations.

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And on enthusiasm, the city of Edmonton has lots of cities and per friends and allies

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of the vice-schools of the city's bicycle plan.

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The city needs to build their network of citizens who want information related to bicycle

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infrastructure like in Huntington, New Roots, and also which are closed for construction.

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There's a political issue on like communication when bicycle issues arise or feedback on planning

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in processes required, the users of this network can quickly give feedback.

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This could help the community engage them as a bicycle plan allies can help their neighbors

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understand the issues or at least be pointed to relevant city resources.

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This city can also help with enthusiasm and education by working better with the bicycle

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industry.

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Bicycle stores have the legally required development like bells and lights that can help

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cyclists understand the need for regular maintenance to comply with the law.

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In conclusion, I urge the city to stay the course, but engage more of the more proactive

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than reactive.

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I continue to invest in an eminent infrastructure, build up generations of work by some

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great bicycle infrastructure.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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Sorry.

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Time.

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It seems to stop at the one second and not go to zero, but thank you so much for being here.

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Kristen, Constable.

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Hello.

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My name is Kristen.

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I'm hoping to speak today about our going frustration on the edge.

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of billions of the rollout of the bike lanes on 79th street in the lack of communication and information being provided to us.

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We own a home on the effective route on 79th street in four sites. Back in the fall of 2025, we heard about a possibility of incoming bike lanes.

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I was interested. We reached out to my city counselor, Ashley Salvador, and the active transportation email.

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We wanted more information. At that point, the reply was that they would be engaging with affected homeowners as the plans were being made

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that we would be getting updates. However, this never happened. We listed our home first day

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all in May of this year, promptly after a prospective buyer was actually the one to inform us

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that we were meant to have all of our street parking taken away. They wanted more information

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because they were not going to pursue a purpose for the case. This was the first that we had

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heard about getting two by planes, let alone no parking. I was shocked to look at the correct

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active transportation website, which informed that they were now planning on removing not one,

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but both sides of our parking.

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From flesting our home, there have been news articles and social media posts

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about the upcoming removal of the parking.

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We've had to drop the sell of our price over $60,000 in counting.

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Well, obviously not fully the blame.

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There's uncertainty and lack of information to be provided

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has already proved to detract potential home buyers

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and effect their property value.

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I begin to search for one formation on one to expect the changes.

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What other options that it considered and to ask for the rationale

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to ensign two bike lanes rather than just the one.

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I found my city council office four times since May to request a callback with information

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that was pertinent to us selling our home.

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I emailed three times of July alone.

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I finally received a reply from the correct representative on July 31st,

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sitting there only knew what was publicly available.

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They recommended contacting the mayor's office and the active transportation team,

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which I had already done and received no replies from since May.

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The lack of engagement and transparency was intentional to prevent meaningful conversations on the topic.

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My parents are in their 70s with various health issues, make use of our street parking with free to visit their families.

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Our back alleys are walking in the winter and our treacherous to navigate.

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Other family members were once active and would have loved to cycle to our home.

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Now deal with part of the issues that requires they drive a vehicle.

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Access in the home via the back alley only is not a safe solution for seniors relying on taxier deaths for pickup.

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I acknowledge the many benefits to cycling, however there has to be a way to make cycling a safe option with also being realistic and our community members needing to make use of some street parking.

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Whether it's for guests emergency or deliveries, particularly in our community with increased density for multi-unit infels.

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I'm not against bike events on our road, however making changes that will put the burden on of solely seems unfair.

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Now, since like changes are being enforced with tunnel vision and disregard, can we do one

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by playing an accused of one by playing for community members of the living enforce heights?

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There's been critical information that impacts us that has been withheld.

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We would like you to pause the review.

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Thank you very much.

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And we will now go to Teresa Filling.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Thanks for having me here today. My name is Teresa Falling. I have been a year-round

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commuter cyclist for my entire adult life. Scycling is my primary and preferred means

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of transport. My husband and I own one car between us. I would like to commend the city of

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Edmonton for an extant network of bike infrastructure. I consider myself very fortunate to

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live in one most bikeable cities in North America. Biking has allowed me to integrate fitness

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into my day-to-day life has saved me tens of thousands of dollars in car-related expenses

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and has significantly reduced my environmental footprint. For this I'm very grateful.

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I can attest that cycling isn't always a breeze and not just because of winter.

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When I bike on the roads as I am legally required to do, I'm yelled at sworn at honked at and

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bullied into the ditch. Drivers become impatient when they're held up by a cyclist on the road

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and many are outright hostile. The fact is it is dangerous to bike in a world design for cars

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and you will feel it if you try it.

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While biking does have its own inherent risks,

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the greatest risk by far is that posed by drivers.

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This is why M&T needs designated protected bike lanes.

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Good bike infrastructure means more than just a painted lane,

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without physical barriers to demarcate where the bike lanes are,

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cars assume bike lanes to be just another car lane.

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You can tell what makes well-designed safe bike infrastructure

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by one metric alone, whether or not families use them.

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Overwhelmingly, parents only feel safe biking

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with their children on protected bike lanes that are segregated from the roads by concrete barriers.

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There is like these also calm traps.

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All this is in alignment with Edmonton's vision zero project, which has the intent of eliminating serious injuries and fatalities on a road by 2032.

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vision zero stipulates that transportation safety measures should include all modes of travel and

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acknowledges that those of us who do not travel in a vehicle are at a greater risk of injury in a collision and are therefore entitled to special measures to ensure that we can travel safely and freely.

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I also want to stress that bike lanes aren't just used by cyclists and e-bike users, but by people on mobility scooters,

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wheelchair users, parents with strollers, joggers and dog walkers.

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bike lanes take pressure off parking demands and reduce traffic congestion.

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When people walk bike or take transit even some of the time, everyone wins, as it means fewer vehicles on the road at once,

1544
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:50,720
as well as less wear on the roads.

1545
02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:56,480
Bikes emit no emissions, do not add to noise pollution, and do not shed microplastics the way car tires do.

1546
02:30:56,900 --> 02:31:02,240
I also think it is coercive to require each individual citizen to pay and make room for their own personal vehicle,

1547
02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:08,440
just to be able to function in society, especially given the exorbitant cost of car payments made in its fuel parking and insurance.

1548
02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:11,320
Giving people options means giving them freedom.

1549
02:31:12,980 --> 02:31:16,460
Consider all the space and resources dedicated cars and car infrastructure.

1550
02:31:17,140 --> 02:31:20,460
The parking lots overpasses and vast expanse of ugly, heat-absorbing

1551
02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:22,300
asphalt that cooks our city in the summertime.

1552
02:31:23,660 --> 02:31:28,400
I'm running out of time, but I appreciate the bike lanes that we have.

1553
02:31:28,720 --> 02:31:31,120
Please proceed with the active transport network.

1554
02:31:31,360 --> 02:31:32,040
Thank you.

1555
02:31:32,300 --> 02:31:33,140
Thank you.

1556
02:31:33,820 --> 02:31:35,560
And we'll go to Edwin Shale.

1557
02:31:39,460 --> 02:31:42,820
Thank you, Chair. Can you hear me?

1558
02:31:43,020 --> 02:31:44,300
Yes, can, yep.

1559
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:46,800
Let me just get my notes here.

1560
02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:49,060
All right.

1561
02:31:49,860 --> 02:31:50,480
Madden and Shale.

1562
02:31:51,540 --> 02:31:54,260
I'm actually a driver in a walk, and I think that's important to this conversation.

1563
02:31:54,680 --> 02:31:58,860
I don't bike too often. I got my bike just a couple of years ago, but as a driver,

1564
02:32:00,300 --> 02:32:03,340
these bike lanes are imperative, and we need to keep moving forward.

1565
02:32:03,340 --> 02:32:09,660
The more people who bike in the city, the more space we have on the road for people who need to drive.

1566
02:32:10,660 --> 02:32:16,540
I think as we grow to a bigger city, we have no choice but to pursue with active transportation.

1567
02:32:16,940 --> 02:32:27,700
And it is a culture shift we are trying to get more people to see that biking is a viable option that they have a democratic ability to actually move through this city and an affordable way.

1568
02:32:27,700 --> 02:32:32,760
as it aligns with the council's got principles and creating affordable options for people. I think

1569
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:42,420
this is the only way for us to proceed for it. I know we talk about children and as much as

1570
02:32:42,420 --> 02:32:53,160
compelling as children, safety and not dying as a good way of making decisions. I think one of the

1571
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:58,660
for their existing routing, and for their functional recording.

1572
02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:02,100
It's hard, so it's very waste, you know, that's the best way to make it true.

1573
02:33:03,280 --> 02:33:03,540
Great.

1574
02:33:03,540 --> 02:33:04,120
Okay, thank you.

1575
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:04,580
Sorry.

1576
02:33:04,960 --> 02:33:07,980
Well, we do some of your time there.

1577
02:33:07,980 --> 02:33:08,400
No worries.

1578
02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:08,880
I apologize.

1579
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:10,060
Can we just go back?

1580
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:10,740
Yeah.

1581
02:33:10,860 --> 02:33:11,640
As I was saying.

1582
02:33:12,020 --> 02:33:13,540
Give him another 30 seconds.

1583
02:33:14,380 --> 02:33:15,820
I maybe 20 seconds.

1584
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:16,340
That's fine.

1585
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:17,000
That's fine.

1586
02:33:20,780 --> 02:33:24,180
Yeah, we talk about children and everything, but functionally speaking, regardless

1587
02:33:24,180 --> 02:33:28,880
Because if we had this council, regardless of who's in city administration, bikers of taxpayers

1588
02:33:29,580 --> 02:33:32,240
at the end of the day, and they have a right to the city as well.

1589
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:36,160
These public roads are public roads, they're not private roads, and I know that we have

1590
02:33:36,160 --> 02:33:40,800
grown accustomed to this courtesy from the city, but the fact of the matter is that we do

1591
02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:41,700
not pay for them.

1592
02:33:41,860 --> 02:33:42,760
We do not own them.

1593
02:33:42,940 --> 02:33:43,840
Those belong to the taxpayers.

1594
02:33:44,380 --> 02:33:48,000
As hard as that is to just, it's part of the culture shift that we need to make.

1595
02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:56,920
But at the end of the day, the real trade-off, I see, when we're talking about adjusting

1596
02:33:56,920 --> 02:34:02,320
or making considerations for future build-out, is that people will still have the vehicles

1597
02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:07,360
who need them, who will make that decision accordingly, and they won't be a luxury.

1598
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:12,720
And people who want to drive, or people who need to bike and want to bike, can bike and

1599
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:18,680
around their city. To me, that doesn't really seem like a lose-lose situation. I think everyone

1600
02:34:18,680 --> 02:34:24,320
comes out being the leader, being the winner that they need to be. And finally, to council,

1601
02:34:24,860 --> 02:34:30,180
and what I want to impress upon administration, is this is a culture shift, like I mentioned

1602
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:35,860
earlier, in the middle of a culture war with the province, but we should not measure ourselves

1603
02:34:35,860 --> 02:34:40,920
by the depths of this province cynicism, cynicism, but the heights of Ementonians, aspirations,

1604
02:34:40,920 --> 02:34:44,460
and Ementonians are proud of the urbanist direction we are taking.

1605
02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:46,340
I see the rest of my time.

1606
02:34:48,300 --> 02:34:49,280
Thank you.

1607
02:34:49,420 --> 02:34:50,700
And sorry about the interruption there.

1608
02:34:52,020 --> 02:34:54,740
And we'll go to Ian Hoesler.

1609
02:34:56,520 --> 02:34:57,480
Good morning, can you hear me?

1610
02:34:57,700 --> 02:34:58,220
Yes, we can.

1611
02:34:58,320 --> 02:34:59,080
Please go ahead.

1612
02:34:59,620 --> 02:34:59,800
Excellent.

1613
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:00,880
We are back in committee.

1614
02:35:00,920 --> 02:35:03,320
Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.

1615
02:35:03,340 --> 02:35:06,060
I'm a senior citizen living in Wardle, Damon.

1616
02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:10,530
And someone who's bicycle is there year-round primary mode of

1617
02:35:10,530 --> 02:35:16,270
I recently read the report being present today and was fascinated at the proposal of the cancelled

1618
02:35:16,270 --> 02:35:21,750
time project that would have enhanced the safety and connectivity of the active transportation

1619
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:27,110
that worked in Hamilton. I have been a bicycle commuter and recreational rider for over 30 years

1620
02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:32,150
and have seen a lot of positive changes over that time to make the infrastructure safer for those

1621
02:35:32,150 --> 02:35:37,970
of us who bike walk and roll. And someone who also owns a car might decision to ride versus drive

1622
02:35:37,970 --> 02:35:40,550
to any destination is first and foremost,

1623
02:35:40,930 --> 02:35:43,950
off the maiden consideration of whether there is a protected

1624
02:35:43,950 --> 02:35:47,310
by croot or shared pathway from majority of land journey.

1625
02:35:47,790 --> 02:35:49,050
And only a connected network

1626
02:35:49,050 --> 02:35:51,790
of active loan infrastructure makes that possible.

1627
02:35:52,450 --> 02:35:54,730
I'd recently interviewed a retiring city staffer

1628
02:35:54,730 --> 02:35:57,270
about their journey as a transportation plan or an eminent.

1629
02:35:57,770 --> 02:35:59,430
For close to 30 years, an asset,

1630
02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:01,990
if there was ever a time that bike lanes were not political,

1631
02:36:02,630 --> 02:36:05,010
then not unsurprisingly, the answer was,

1632
02:36:05,010 --> 02:36:09,310
Well, there's never been a time where this hasn't been a political discussion.

1633
02:36:10,050 --> 02:36:15,290
The formal council, the former council enacted the rapid implementation of key active

1634
02:36:15,290 --> 02:36:19,430
modes infrastructure to better connect the network, knowing that minimal consultation

1635
02:36:19,430 --> 02:36:22,130
would occur, which was a political decision.

1636
02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:27,070
This latest follow-up by the province is mostly a distraction from their other feelings

1637
02:36:27,070 --> 02:36:31,790
as a government, but I would urge the current city council to have the political fortitude

1638
02:36:31,790 --> 02:36:37,550
to move ahead with the infrastructure to support the goals outlined in the city plan, the

1639
02:36:37,550 --> 02:36:40,730
bike plan, vision zero, and climate change plans.

1640
02:36:41,390 --> 02:36:45,270
There's a lot of talk about trade offs when installing bike infrastructure in mature

1641
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:49,950
neighborhoods, but not in the discussion frequently like the trade offs already conceded

1642
02:36:49,950 --> 02:36:51,610
to our autosentic culture.

1643
02:36:52,270 --> 02:36:57,050
But our children can no longer be safely walk or ride to school, that we have a population

1644
02:36:57,050 --> 02:37:02,390
we're a chronic obesity and associated diseases are on the rise that storage of private

1645
02:37:02,390 --> 02:37:07,570
automobiles on public spaces by some considered a right and that the cost of installing

1646
02:37:07,570 --> 02:37:10,410
and maintaining our rules is spiraling yearly.

1647
02:37:11,070 --> 02:37:15,450
Counselors certainly began to address these issues by improving strategic plans to address

1648
02:37:15,450 --> 02:37:19,510
these challenges and it started to move the needle in many of these areas.

1649
02:37:19,950 --> 02:37:25,470
I would urge you to please reject the administration's proposal to propose changes to the

1650
02:37:25,470 --> 02:37:28,550
14 roots, enhancing the active transportation network.

1651
02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:29,890
Evan's and should continue.

1652
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:39,900
Building the safe, connected transportation network council approve, rather than abandoning planned connections and anticipation of provincial legislation that is not even introduced.

1653
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:43,960
Thank you for your time and consideration. I stand ready to answer any questions.

1654
02:37:45,810 --> 02:37:46,070
Thank you.

1655
02:37:46,530 --> 02:37:48,990
Thank you very much.

1656
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:52,470
And Marcel, who collect?

1657
02:38:01,660 --> 02:38:03,080
Tyrell Brushu.

1658
02:38:05,140 --> 02:38:05,780
Yes, good morning.

1659
02:38:05,780 --> 02:38:11,600
When I was told a brochure and I live in a quiet way, less than a block from the 102nd Avenue

1660
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:12,260
bike lane.

1661
02:38:13,160 --> 02:38:19,160
My main transportation option is cycling, but I also want to take transit and drive and I support

1662
02:38:19,160 --> 02:38:24,020
the active transportation network expansion, continuing as planned, or even expedited.

1663
02:38:25,020 --> 02:38:29,300
This investment is a key role on addressing the links in the active transportation network,

1664
02:38:29,460 --> 02:38:32,040
so that users have complete connected and safe routes.

1665
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:38,420
A few years ago, I was driving my bike on an arterial road, but it will be a teacher-district connector

1666
02:38:38,420 --> 02:38:41,060
after the evidence and bike plan and intimidation guide.

1667
02:38:41,860 --> 02:38:45,040
Well, shoulder checking, I noticed a truck at 7 a.m. behind me.

1668
02:38:45,820 --> 02:38:48,200
I had a brief moment to avoid being hit.

1669
02:38:48,780 --> 02:38:53,220
Although it was only a close call, it was the scariest experience I had on the bike.

1670
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,920
I hope that no one has to go through something similar or worse.

1671
02:38:57,560 --> 02:39:05,740
When we have bike lanes, drivers of vehicles do not have storm moving bicycles, e- Scooters, and other mobility devices in their way.

1672
02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:13,620
And more vulnerable users are separated from large, heavy, fast-moving, potentially distracted or aggressive drivers.

1673
02:39:14,540 --> 02:39:18,740
Fight lanes make things better for anyone that chooses or needs to drive.

1674
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:25,880
When we have complete connected and safe routes, the type of infrastructure that is being built through the active transportation network expansion,

1675
02:39:25,880 --> 02:39:30,600
We can employ tragedies, make better use of our streets, and keep people safe.

1676
02:39:32,020 --> 02:39:35,900
I also like because it helps me save money, but I recognize that for some of us who

1677
02:39:35,900 --> 02:39:40,820
less of the choice and more of a necessity, a colleague of mine has shared that the price

1678
02:39:40,820 --> 02:39:46,180
of the Ella bus for kids is more than doubled in the past two years, and her family currently

1679
02:39:46,180 --> 02:39:48,580
communicates to school by bike for financial reasons.

1680
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:55,240
It was going to cost them $210 per month for the Ella bus this year, up from $98 per month

1681
02:39:55,240 --> 02:39:57,180
that it was two years ago.

1682
02:39:57,560 --> 02:39:59,580
So for them, this is a longer choice

1683
02:39:59,580 --> 02:40:02,680
like New Zealand, a affordable transportation option.

1684
02:40:03,020 --> 02:40:04,340
And we know that my plans can be

1685
02:40:04,340 --> 02:40:08,160
a work make things more affordable, or even 20 inch.

1686
02:40:08,340 --> 02:40:08,840
Thank you.

1687
02:40:08,960 --> 02:40:10,160
I see the best of my time.

1688
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:13,790
Thank you very much.

1689
02:40:15,430 --> 02:40:18,550
And with that, we have concluded panel two.

1690
02:40:19,130 --> 02:40:23,190
And so I will look to my committee members and council colleagues

1691
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:28,070
if they have any questions for the speakers on this panel.

1692
02:40:37,500 --> 02:40:42,220
I'm not seeing any, so thank you so much again for being here and for sharing your voices

1693
02:40:42,220 --> 02:40:43,120
with us.

1694
02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:51,560
I know we have about 15 minutes and just calling up the next panel would probably take 15 minutes.

1695
02:40:53,480 --> 02:40:59,440
So what I'm going to suggest is I'm just going to look to if there are any speakers.

1696
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:10,230
let me just look here. Madam clerk, where should I start for this next panel? I'm panel just starting at the top of panel three again.

1697
02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:16,230
It counts the other foot. Starting at the top of panel three means we would be starting with panelist number four.

1698
02:41:16,490 --> 02:41:17,110
Yep. Yes.

1699
02:41:22,280 --> 02:41:30,630
So I'm going to call out all of the potential panelist for panel three.

1700
02:41:31,710 --> 02:41:44,870
However, just because of logistics, if there's anybody in person, I'm going to try to prioritize them, so they don't have to stay around for, for lunch, and they could maybe answer questions remotely.

1701
02:41:46,570 --> 02:41:47,090
Yeah.

1702
02:41:49,150 --> 02:41:56,630
So, Laura, Daly, are you literally, Laura, are you here? It says in person,

1703
02:42:04,910 --> 02:42:05,590
Cameron Peters.

1704
02:42:07,350 --> 02:42:09,830
Okay, can you come down?

1705
02:42:14,270 --> 02:42:18,050
I'm, and Connor Barry. Yep, come on down.

1706
02:42:21,660 --> 02:42:22,560
So those are the only two

1707
02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:28,360
speakers we'll hear from before lunch, but I do want to just highlight the other speakers that

1708
02:42:28,360 --> 02:42:33,860
call right after lunch when we come back at one thirty that would be Laura. As mentioned,

1709
02:42:34,280 --> 02:42:42,940
Michael rolling off, Brad Thieson, Juliana Weber, Benjamin Frank,

1710
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:50,890
Councillor Rutherford. We also have panelists, Cameron Smithers.

1711
02:42:52,590 --> 02:42:57,890
Is here? He's here. Okay, perfect. So we'll hear from those three. And then we will also

1712
02:42:57,890 --> 02:43:09,550
call out for up to 15. So if you are Jacob DeWang, Carl Parkinson, Alexander Lima, Kelly,

1713
02:43:10,250 --> 02:43:16,090
Gamont, Connor Berry, and Rachel Bembridge should anticipate being called after lunch.

1714
02:43:18,110 --> 02:43:21,650
Okay, so we will go to Cameron first.

1715
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:32,590
Okay, we will go to, uh, not Cameron Peters.

1716
02:43:34,350 --> 02:43:35,190
Will it be your first?

1717
02:43:36,450 --> 02:43:36,830
Good.

1718
02:43:37,570 --> 02:43:39,250
Well, Dave, Councillors.

1719
02:43:40,510 --> 02:43:47,850
I'm one of between 1% and 5% of the population that is on the Autism Spectrum.

1720
02:43:49,030 --> 02:43:55,270
It depends on your definitions, there's a lot of people who are going through the condition

1721
02:43:55,270 --> 02:44:03,890
I'm diagnosed, but one of the most common elements of that is some form of sensory overload

1722
02:44:04,330 --> 02:44:06,390
in their response to noise.

1723
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:07,970
I'm incredibly lucky.

1724
02:44:08,970 --> 02:44:13,850
I have been cycling since I was young child along the milk creek.

1725
02:44:13,850 --> 02:44:28,510
I have been isolated from the noise of cars that overwhelms me up until the point where I could start managing it around high school junior high.

1726
02:44:29,890 --> 02:44:37,290
The very nature of the act of transportation expansion has made streets

1727
02:44:37,290 --> 02:44:43,270
commerce. It has made them quieter. It has made them more accessible to folks like me.

1728
02:44:44,370 --> 02:44:47,950
And it has made communities, the places like the University of less stressful.

1729
02:44:49,890 --> 02:44:53,410
But I don't think noise from on a mobile,

1730
02:44:53,590 --> 02:44:58,370
automobiles, is something that only affects people on spectrum.

1731
02:44:58,370 --> 02:44:58,870
So

1732
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,260
Some of the roots that I took, when I was a kid, out to full-term place elementary before that

1733
02:45:06,260 --> 02:45:15,460
were closed down, were on streets like 79th. But I know from my experience on those

1734
02:45:15,460 --> 02:45:24,480
commutes that a little kid, who is not a meter in height, on a bike, needs a parental

1735
02:45:24,480 --> 02:45:30,240
I was lucky in that regard, in that my mother was a teacher at that school.

1736
02:45:31,660 --> 02:45:40,820
But there was a brief period between grades five and seven, where too small for an adult

1737
02:45:40,820 --> 02:45:44,800
bike, but you know, not capable of being supervised.

1738
02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:55,220
A lane-like 79 is a huge deal because it puts kids front and center, it makes them visible,

1739
02:45:55,700 --> 02:46:07,140
it puts them in unexpected places and it means that they won't be in a situation like I was in 2013 where

1740
02:46:07,140 --> 02:46:29,000
From a blind spot, a car peaboned me, sent me flying across a street, and the only reason I am here is a role of the dice that I didn't get a little bit more rotational force, which may have just stacked my neck.

1741
02:46:30,700 --> 02:46:34,750
I think the most important element of this infrastructure is

1742
02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:38,960
avoiding leaving things to chance.

1743
02:46:40,430 --> 02:46:41,400
Thank you for your time.

1744
02:46:42,610 --> 02:46:43,610
Thank you.

1745
02:46:44,350 --> 02:46:46,180
And now we will go to

1746
02:46:47,030 --> 02:46:47,770
Connor Berry.

1747
02:46:50,110 --> 02:46:50,700
Can you hear me?

1748
02:46:51,730 --> 02:46:52,070
Yes.

1749
02:46:53,150 --> 02:46:53,410
All right.

1750
02:46:53,610 --> 02:46:57,210
First I just like the thank you guys for extending your work day till nine.

1751
02:46:57,410 --> 02:46:58,290
That seems pretty rough.

1752
02:46:59,650 --> 02:47:03,590
The first thing I'd like to say is like I could talk about the

1753
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:08,810
all the advantages of cycling, but I think we've gone through that enough, I'd like to

1754
02:47:08,810 --> 02:47:13,530
reaffirm what Allison Mack and Tau said about how a lot of what we're seeing in terms

1755
02:47:13,530 --> 02:47:19,230
like resistance to bike lanes on like 79, 150 street. Like I don't think it's all just

1756
02:47:19,230 --> 02:47:23,990
like always going to happen. I think a lot of it came down to just like how administration

1757
02:47:23,990 --> 02:47:31,390
managed the roll out of it. Like I was door knocking near 79 street last night and a lot

1758
02:47:31,390 --> 02:47:35,510
people, like there's obviously some people that are entirely opposed, some people that are entirely

1759
02:47:35,510 --> 02:47:41,150
for it, but most people just were a little confused about what exactly was going on on the

1760
02:47:41,150 --> 02:47:46,330
street, where the school buses were going to drop off kids and it wasn't really just opposition

1761
02:47:46,330 --> 02:47:53,190
to the cycling infrastructure. So in that regard, I'd say like a lot of the problems that have

1762
02:47:53,190 --> 02:47:58,950
come up that are leading to this change in strategy could be avoided with a better roll out

1763
02:47:58,950 --> 02:48:06,510
the infrastructure. Then in terms of the provincial government and their plans to remove

1764
02:48:06,510 --> 02:48:11,310
bike lanes or potentially ban them, I'd say that to me it seems a bit short-sighted

1765
02:48:11,310 --> 02:48:16,710
to immediately just cower away before they even rolled out the legislation, because we don't

1766
02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:21,550
know when it's coming out. They said late 2026, but last year they were threatening similar

1767
02:48:21,550 --> 02:48:28,550
legislation as well, and we don't even know what exactly it's going to look like, or if if the

1768
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:33,630
going through and on carrier with like the legal challenges there if it even is legal.

1769
02:48:34,930 --> 02:48:39,870
So I'd say that because of we shouldn't actually be cutting back on building

1770
02:48:39,870 --> 02:48:44,210
bike infrastructure, we should actually be advancing it while we still have the right to do so.

1771
02:48:45,690 --> 02:48:51,710
All these like bike routes are very critical. There aren't replacements in those areas and I think

1772
02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:59,630
On the whole, we have like a very limited time to build it and we should be building it right now.

1773
02:49:00,050 --> 02:49:04,730
I'm a little surprised that like a lot of these products weren't even tendered and it's August.

1774
02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:06,550
That's quite late into the construction season.

1775
02:49:06,890 --> 02:49:09,090
But the next best time to do it is right now.

1776
02:49:09,590 --> 02:49:15,830
So I'd call on all of you to oppose administration's recommendation and continue with the bike plan as is.

1777
02:49:16,130 --> 02:49:17,750
Thank you. I'll yield the rest of my time.

1778
02:49:18,670 --> 02:49:22,090
Thank you, and then we'll go to Cameron Smithers.

1779
02:49:23,450 --> 02:49:25,690
Hello Counselors, can you hear me?

1780
02:49:25,890 --> 02:49:26,190
Yes.

1781
02:49:26,690 --> 02:49:32,830
I took the original non-confrontational active transportation network

1782
02:49:32,830 --> 02:49:34,610
to get here at the sidewalk.

1783
02:49:36,370 --> 02:49:39,070
Today I'm asking you to reject administrations approach

1784
02:49:39,070 --> 02:49:44,130
to the active transportation network expansion program.

1785
02:49:44,130 --> 02:49:47,950
For Bonnie Dune, this is not a bike lane debate.

1786
02:49:48,590 --> 02:49:53,350
It's about traffic calming, safer crossings and addressing long-standing safety concerns.

1787
02:49:54,850 --> 02:49:59,570
We started collaborating with the city back in 2021 when a child was struck in our community.

1788
02:50:00,330 --> 02:50:04,890
We participated in vision zero street labs to reduce speeding, short-cutting,

1789
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:07,450
and to make our neighborhood a safer place to walk and roll.

1790
02:50:08,390 --> 02:50:11,290
Those measures were described as partial solutions.

1791
02:50:12,350 --> 02:50:21,370
After several years the city noted this program, as the next step, three new routes planned for Bonnie Bonnie

1792
02:50:21,370 --> 02:50:23,990
Dune in 2026, we waited.

1793
02:50:25,310 --> 02:50:28,930
Now Council is being asked to approve a modified approach.

1794
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:32,530
However, attachment 5 is explicit.

1795
02:50:33,350 --> 02:50:40,770
Roots that have impact on travel lanes or roots that impact parking will be removed from the expansion program.

1796
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:43,570
This is more than a modified approach.

1797
02:50:44,010 --> 02:50:50,410
It removes a significant number of planned roots from the current program with no commitment to bring them back.

1798
02:50:51,230 --> 02:50:52,490
What does this mean in practice?

1799
02:50:52,490 --> 02:50:57,490
My niece and nephew live in Fulton. My wife and I sometimes help with child care.

1800
02:50:58,110 --> 02:51:04,130
Bonnie Dune to Fulton is a manageable bike trip if their safe connected route.

1801
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:11,850
Today, there are high traffic sections and unsafe intersections on 101st Avenue and 50th Street.

1802
02:51:12,570 --> 02:51:18,030
And this in connection doesn't just weaken the network, it can completely eliminate the trip.

1803
02:51:18,030 --> 02:51:21,730
For us, that means we're driving instead.

1804
02:51:22,570 --> 02:51:25,790
In administration points to the financial risk of terminating contracts,

1805
02:51:26,230 --> 02:51:28,990
a future provincial legislation requires it.

1806
02:51:29,230 --> 02:51:30,890
That risk is nearly hypothetical.

1807
02:51:31,850 --> 02:51:35,290
What is not hypothetical is what is proposed here today.

1808
02:51:35,950 --> 02:51:39,290
Plan, bike routes or plan routes will be removed from the program.

1809
02:51:39,690 --> 02:51:42,510
Connections lost and safety issues will be left unresolved.

1810
02:51:42,510 --> 02:51:49,130
We should be careful in locking in a known and immediate loss to avoid an uncertain risk.

1811
02:51:49,490 --> 02:51:53,430
If the province ultimately requires Edmonton to change course, then respond.

1812
02:51:54,190 --> 02:51:58,430
But council should not self impose restrictions before the rules exist.

1813
02:51:59,710 --> 02:52:02,970
I know personally what it's like to have safety infrastructure at stake.

1814
02:52:03,170 --> 02:52:05,770
My uncle was struck and killed by a driver.

1815
02:52:05,950 --> 02:52:08,490
In a place where sidewalks were considered unnecessary.

1816
02:52:08,490 --> 02:52:13,490
That experience makes me weary of unknown safety gaps on resolve.

1817
02:52:14,710 --> 02:52:20,130
In closing, I do not ask communities to wait for years for plan safety improvements

1818
02:52:20,130 --> 02:52:21,910
then remove them at the final hour.

1819
02:52:22,290 --> 02:52:27,030
Please reject the modified approach and honor the commitment to building a safe, connected network.

1820
02:52:29,300 --> 02:52:29,960
Thank you.

1821
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:38,620
I'm sorry for the loss of your uncle. I think we have time to squeeze in one more speaker, so I'm just going to go in the order of the list.

1822
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:44,520
So last call for Marcel, I'd for this panel. Marcel, who collect?

1823
02:52:47,300 --> 02:52:49,000
Jacob Duang, are you online?

1824
02:52:50,840 --> 02:52:52,120
Hi, yes, I'm here, actually.

1825
02:52:52,580 --> 02:52:55,260
Okay, please go ahead with your time.

1826
02:52:56,020 --> 02:53:02,020
Thanks. All be really brief. I part of the reason why I live where I do it in Minton's

1827
02:53:02,020 --> 02:53:10,660
because I live near Fort Bicolines, 76th Ave, 10th and 83rd, they allow me to get across

1828
02:53:10,660 --> 02:53:18,980
large parts of the city safely through most of the seasons even though there's a clearance

1829
02:53:18,980 --> 02:53:25,240
issue on 76 and 106. It's still pretty good. But there's still white swaths in the

1830
02:53:25,240 --> 02:53:32,500
city where I just don't feel comfortable biking. I'm really dismayed that we're looking to

1831
02:53:32,500 --> 02:53:37,860
that there was a proposal and then revised a couple of times to cancel or pause some of

1832
02:53:37,860 --> 02:53:43,240
these bike lanes. I'm still not happy with the proposal going forward. I think we need

1833
02:53:43,240 --> 02:53:52,120
to go back to the plan and just continue as necessary without revising anything. In fact,

1834
02:53:52,120 --> 02:53:57,480
would argue that if we know that there's legislation coming forward, what we should be doing

1835
02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:06,500
instead is we should be accelerating the bike plant. Get as many bike lanes in now before the

1836
02:54:06,500 --> 02:54:14,240
UCP government makes it harder or impossible for some of these. We should be putting as many new

1837
02:54:14,240 --> 02:54:20,280
lanes out for tender, as possible building them with as much permanence as possible that makes them

1838
02:54:20,280 --> 02:54:27,110
to remove and that's the way we fight back against this. That's the way we make sure that

1839
02:54:27,860 --> 02:54:36,020
it's harder to make people it's harder to remove these safety measures and that's how I think

1840
02:54:36,020 --> 02:54:39,040
that council should proceed. Thanks, I yield my time.

1841
02:54:41,290 --> 02:54:50,510
Thank you and we're we're we're keeping a good

1842
02:54:50,510 --> 02:54:53,930
that is part of this panel, Karl Parkingson.

1843
02:54:55,450 --> 02:54:57,050
Are you online at this time?

1844
02:54:58,830 --> 02:54:59,450
Yeah, I'm here.

1845
02:55:00,010 --> 02:55:01,710
Okay, please go ahead with your presentation.

1846
02:55:04,210 --> 02:55:05,110
I'm sure you have another presentation.

1847
02:55:06,350 --> 02:55:07,790
You're thinking to it, yeah.

1848
02:55:08,990 --> 02:55:09,230
Yeah.

1849
02:55:09,430 --> 02:55:13,270
I'd like to speak to you today to express my opposition

1850
02:55:13,270 --> 02:55:15,190
to the proposal from administration

1851
02:55:15,810 --> 02:55:18,730
to a new active transportation construction.

1852
02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:28,730
I think we need, as other people said, we need to be honest with what is happening here.

1853
02:55:29,530 --> 02:55:31,430
In fact, this issue is larger than bike lanes.

1854
02:55:32,110 --> 02:55:38,570
There is a concerted, coordinated, and partisan attack on the governing authority of Emmett and City Council,

1855
02:55:38,630 --> 02:55:41,490
occurring by the Alberta government under supporters.

1856
02:55:41,490 --> 02:55:47,570
There's no coincidence that, as patient minister Devin Drupion for a spoke about bike lanes,

1857
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:51,930
one of a certain councilor who previously ran as a UCD candidate was acting in a lower

1858
02:55:51,930 --> 02:55:58,390
in 2025, nor was it a coincidence that the recent visit by the minister in Caplanos

1859
02:55:58,390 --> 02:56:00,390
organized by a UCD party member.

1860
02:56:00,910 --> 02:56:04,690
There's also a lot of coincidence that a UCD constituency president is the the efforts

1861
02:56:04,690 --> 02:56:07,350
to have the province overturned our zoning by-laws.

1862
02:56:08,110 --> 02:56:11,530
We also need to be honest at what will happen should this proposal be adopted.

1863
02:56:12,430 --> 02:56:13,510
This will not be a pause.

1864
02:56:13,890 --> 02:56:16,490
These projects will be canceled by the province and never built.

1865
02:56:17,250 --> 02:56:20,790
These safety will continue to deteriorate and people who are just trying to get around

1866
02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:23,170
our city safely will be injured and killed.

1867
02:56:24,050 --> 02:56:27,470
I would like to believe that there are enough councillors here who believe in both the safety

1868
02:56:27,470 --> 02:56:29,930
of our streets and the importance of local democracy.

1869
02:56:30,930 --> 02:56:35,510
You do not, in fact, have to cowardly seed your governing authority to the province without

1870
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:35,970
a fight.

1871
02:56:35,970 --> 02:56:41,190
The province wants to prevent new bike lanes from being built and record existing ones that

1872
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:42,870
let the globe be on their hands.

1873
02:56:43,370 --> 02:56:45,150
You do not have to surrender in advance.

1874
02:56:46,050 --> 02:56:46,830
Thank you.

1875
02:56:49,310 --> 02:56:50,390
Thank you very much.

1876
02:56:51,130 --> 02:56:56,170
And with that, we are just a few minutes away from our lunch break.

1877
02:56:56,510 --> 02:56:59,550
So we will take our recess now.

1878
02:56:59,570 --> 02:57:03,870
But as I mentioned, we will continue with panel three and on to panel four.

1879
02:57:03,870 --> 02:57:11,890
And again, if you were missed and you were in one of the first panels, we will do a call as a final panel for anybody that was missed in those panels.

1880
02:57:12,710 --> 02:57:16,550
So everybody that wants to will still have an opportunity to speak in the afternoon.

1881
02:57:17,230 --> 02:57:19,950
And we will reconvene at 130.

1882
02:57:20,710 --> 02:57:23,410
So thank you so much. We are in recess for until 130.

1883
04:29:15,040 --> 04:29:29,000
Okay, and I would like to call this meeting back to order. And again, just going to do a roll call of committee members, Councillor Salvador. Good afternoon. Councillor Clark.

1884
04:29:29,940 --> 04:29:31,640
Good afternoon. Councillor Jans.

1885
04:29:32,760 --> 04:29:33,320
Good afternoon.

1886
04:29:33,700 --> 04:29:34,620
Councillor Perquette.

1887
04:29:37,210 --> 04:29:38,490
And then Mayor Nack.

1888
04:29:41,070 --> 04:29:48,670
They might be joining later. And then, again, as mentioned, sorry, I'm having technical issues, so I don't have

1889
04:29:48,670 --> 04:29:56,250
But I know we are, well, not in Chamber, we are joined by many of our Council colleagues listening into this conversation.

1890
04:29:57,250 --> 04:29:59,890
And so we're going to continue with panel three now. I'm just going to re-

1891
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:20,140
The remainder of the panelist in this panel. And if you're here online, please just say hello. And if you're in person, again, we'll guide you to your seat. So we have about 10 more speakers in this panel to go. Alexander Lima.

1892
04:30:29,670 --> 04:30:31,290
Kelly. Go on.

1893
04:30:37,530 --> 04:30:40,870
Yes, sorry, I'm here. You're here? Okay, that's Kelly. We're Alexander.

1894
04:30:42,550 --> 04:30:44,710
Kelly? Kelly, okay.

1895
04:30:48,530 --> 04:30:49,170
Rachel Bembridge?

1896
04:30:51,590 --> 04:30:55,670
Yep, what? Okay, thank you Renee Weisberg,

1897
04:31:01,740 --> 04:31:02,920
Laura Harding.

1898
04:31:04,790 --> 04:31:09,350
You're out here? Perfect, thank you. Dean Drysdale,

1899
04:31:17,390 --> 04:31:18,130
James Phillips,

1900
04:31:24,780 --> 04:31:25,440
Jason Wang,

1901
04:31:31,470 --> 04:31:33,670
Melissa Stara Oesta.

1902
04:31:34,830 --> 04:31:44,970
here online okay thank you Paul Starosta you're online thank you Paul are you

1903
04:31:44,970 --> 04:31:51,290
are coming in really faint oh okay so when we come back to you we'll just

1904
04:31:51,290 --> 04:31:54,950
check your migraine but I just want to let you hear me now yeah that's way better

1905
04:31:54,950 --> 04:31:58,310
thank you okay and just a nuclear

1906
04:32:02,630 --> 04:32:06,470
yes I'm here about okay perfect thank you

1907
04:32:11,430 --> 04:32:18,030
Okay, and then we're going to circle back to,

1908
04:32:22,160 --> 04:32:24,340
sorry, this one's stuck and then we are

1909
04:32:25,880 --> 04:32:27,560
O-deen drive-stale,

1910
04:32:32,350 --> 04:32:33,330
deen drive-stale,

1911
04:32:37,330 --> 04:32:41,950
okay, and then we are going to circle back to Noah

1912
04:32:42,990 --> 04:32:44,270
Achli Lou,

1913
04:32:49,900 --> 04:32:50,940
David Barry,

1914
04:32:55,000 --> 04:32:56,360
sorry I can't see what that's

1915
04:32:58,660 --> 04:33:01,880
Noah's raised his hand to say he's present. Okay

1916
04:33:02,900 --> 04:33:05,560
So Noah is here. Okay,

1917
04:33:11,070 --> 04:33:14,110
and then so David Barry was the last one I called correct

1918
04:33:15,010 --> 04:33:17,570
and then Dave Sutherland.

1919
04:33:23,820 --> 04:33:28,200
Kevin. We're Tannin.

1920
04:33:35,560 --> 04:33:36,860
How do David's in?

1921
04:33:39,160 --> 04:33:39,920
Yeah, I'm

1922
04:33:48,620 --> 04:33:48,620
in.

1923
04:33:48,780 --> 04:33:51,920
Carly Chen. Yeah.

1924
04:33:55,330 --> 04:33:58,350
Okay. And how many are we at now?

1925
04:33:58,670 --> 04:34:02,530
Madam Clerk. Is it we're at 13? I think if by my count, but I just want to

1926
04:34:02,530 --> 04:34:03,030
check.

1927
04:34:08,400 --> 04:34:12,040
11. I have 11 including Dean Drystale.

1928
04:34:17,500 --> 04:34:22,220
Yes I'm here. Okay then I'll keep going so

1929
04:34:22,220 --> 04:34:24,580
then it'll be Merlin Chen.

1930
04:34:29,700 --> 04:34:32,020
Sorry didn't Merlin say they were here.

1931
04:34:36,680 --> 04:34:38,760
We did not catch that. Okay.

1932
04:34:39,400 --> 04:34:41,920
And then Paige Porton,

1933
04:34:47,980 --> 04:34:49,240
Mike, Hube,

1934
04:34:55,240 --> 04:34:59,980
Laura Dalai, yeah come to any spot that you would like.

1935
04:35:00,660 --> 04:35:03,520
Just go, just go sit over, and yep,

1936
04:35:06,650 --> 04:35:09,130
Michael rolling on half,

1937
04:35:13,980 --> 04:35:15,000
Brad Fesan,

1938
04:35:18,760 --> 04:35:19,760
Juliana Weber,

1939
04:35:23,100 --> 04:35:24,300
Benjamin Frank,

1940
04:35:26,320 --> 04:35:29,280
and Marseille, who's Sue Lack,

1941
04:35:31,800 --> 04:35:32,320
who's a Lack.

1942
04:35:33,720 --> 04:35:39,740
Okay, so that will be the last call we'll do for all the panels then.

1943
04:35:39,740 --> 04:35:55,780
We've called the names at least a couple of times now, and so we'll continue with this panel and start with the first speaker that I called for this panel, which was Alexander, with David there.

1944
04:35:56,440 --> 04:36:02,320
Kelly, Kelly, go mom. So please go ahead with your time, Kelly.

1945
04:36:03,640 --> 04:36:03,660
Good.

1946
04:36:04,720 --> 04:36:11,380
Hello, my name is Kelly, I've lived most of my life from the Greater Edmonton area, I've been both a driver and a cyclist.

1947
04:36:11,720 --> 04:36:20,720
I've driven in and around Edmonton in two different professional capacities in a private vehicle as a youth support worker and in an ambulance as a primary care permit with AHCMS.

1948
04:36:21,540 --> 04:36:25,520
I also studied urban planning as part of my undergraduate degree, majoring in human geography.

1949
04:36:26,800 --> 04:36:32,020
I'm speaking today and staunch opposition to the attempted rollback of the active transportation

1950
04:36:32,020 --> 04:36:34,280
implementation acceleration program.

1951
04:36:35,160 --> 04:36:38,160
There are a lot of things I could say from the perspective of an urbanist, a health care

1952
04:36:38,160 --> 04:36:43,340
worker, a cyclist, as to why we desperately need proper safe, well-connected, protected infrastructure,

1953
04:36:43,700 --> 04:36:48,420
you know, bike lanes, shared use paths, improved pedestrian crossings, and many more.

1954
04:36:49,300 --> 04:36:53,800
The thing is that all of you, everyone here, already knows the reasons why active transportation

1955
04:36:53,800 --> 04:36:58,520
networks are needed. Council knew this infrastructure was necessary. That's why this plan was carefully

1956
04:36:58,520 --> 04:37:02,800
considered, the funding allocated, everything put into place at the beginning of the budget cycle.

1957
04:37:04,260 --> 04:37:08,060
There seems to be only one reason for this proposed course change, and that is this is

1958
04:37:08,060 --> 04:37:12,800
reading directly from the Council report. Change is the provincial legislation with respect to

1959
04:37:12,800 --> 04:37:17,120
municipal bikeline authority under the Traffic Safety Act are anticipated.

1960
04:37:18,460 --> 04:37:22,400
So my understanding and understanding of my fellow concerned citizens here is that admin is

1961
04:37:22,400 --> 04:37:27,580
attempting to comply in advance with this vexious threat from the provincial government that

1962
04:37:27,580 --> 04:37:29,960
is intended to have a chilling effect on the autonomous distance.

1963
04:37:30,000 --> 04:37:56,160
Citizens of the City of Beventon. I understand municipal powers are legally delegated by the province. However, the real issue here is that we have a provincial government packed with authoritarian to try to insert themselves in city decisions that any reasonable person can say is not their business. The people of the city voted again and again for candidates that would bring them a more walkable, livable, functional, sustainable city and we have a long way to go on that.

1964
04:37:56,160 --> 04:38:00,520
If the provincial government wants to interfere with a democratic will of the people of

1965
04:38:00,520 --> 04:38:03,120
that metin, this should be greatly concerning to everyone.

1966
04:38:04,660 --> 04:38:07,160
The existing plan is not a problem that needs to be fixed.

1967
04:38:07,340 --> 04:38:11,180
The provincial government and specifically the transportation ministry is the problem here.

1968
04:38:11,480 --> 04:38:16,280
So the main message I aim to send a council today is, complying in advance will not appease

1969
04:38:16,280 --> 04:38:16,940
these people.

1970
04:38:17,240 --> 04:38:19,540
These are school yard bullies masquerading as adults.

1971
04:38:19,980 --> 04:38:22,460
If you take a step backward, they will take two steps forward.

1972
04:38:22,460 --> 04:38:26,800
We will not achieve anything by yielding ground before confrontation has even started.

1973
04:38:27,520 --> 04:38:30,740
We will not change anyone's minds by immediately seeding to their rational demands.

1974
04:38:31,180 --> 04:38:35,680
Anyone who is worked or lived with manipulative people can attest to this.

1975
04:38:36,100 --> 04:38:39,960
If Council was elected to fulfill its mandate, I'm asking the admin to do its job,

1976
04:38:40,140 --> 04:38:43,420
but they'll exactly what it promised to build and stand tall against the province.

1977
04:38:43,640 --> 04:38:45,180
Do not pause a single project.

1978
04:38:45,360 --> 04:38:48,180
If the UCP is going to threaten heavy-handed intervention,

1979
04:38:48,880 --> 04:38:50,220
then make this a PR night group.

1980
04:38:50,220 --> 04:38:55,860
then make this a PR nightmare for them. Make the media understand that this is the

1981
04:38:55,860 --> 04:39:01,360
province trying to waste the city's money. Do you not back down? Thank you for your time.

1982
04:39:03,460 --> 04:39:07,540
Thank you very much. And now we go to Rachel Bembridge.

1983
04:39:10,380 --> 04:39:11,480
I get up in the folks.

1984
04:39:11,720 --> 04:39:17,080
I apologize for the earlier intruption, balancing work with trying to try and

1985
04:39:17,080 --> 04:39:21,440
community here and so, you know, not to open up the perennial, due young people even with

1986
04:39:21,440 --> 04:39:22,640
these days to date.

1987
04:39:23,200 --> 04:39:28,720
I'm in the resident of Warden, New York, I am on a car, I drive it up to Jackson for client

1988
04:39:28,720 --> 04:39:32,800
calls, I drive it to friends homes when I have things that aren't too heavy to rent around,

1989
04:39:33,220 --> 04:39:36,660
and I try to use it as my bike as much as I can in the city.

1990
04:39:36,980 --> 04:39:42,640
So when I don't have the drive, I don't want to, you know, even doing this recess over lunch,

1991
04:39:42,640 --> 04:39:49,180
I'd like down to the pen to buy a coffee and along the way, I'd be working and stopping my way through to

1992
04:39:49,180 --> 04:39:50,760
Robert Wooden Beverly for a doctor's appointment.

1993
04:39:51,780 --> 04:39:55,200
So instead of just dropping up the way through, I'm going to actually be contributing to

1994
04:39:55,200 --> 04:39:55,860
a local economy.

1995
04:39:56,360 --> 04:39:58,100
So small business owners, big one.

1996
04:39:58,720 --> 04:40:02,820
And as I think previous speakers have alluded to, or just probably said, you know, you

1997
04:40:02,820 --> 04:40:03,720
have all of another reasons.

1998
04:40:04,000 --> 04:40:10,820
So I'm here to speak to my counselor and the committee to a pound for their position that they

1999
04:40:10,820 --> 04:40:14,960
have been elected on, and they have publicly stated several times that they support.

2000
04:40:15,720 --> 04:40:17,620
So let's get her done.

2001
04:40:17,780 --> 04:40:20,740
So let's tackle the elephant norm, which is obviously the problem.

2002
04:40:21,500 --> 04:40:26,120
So risk management, it obviously is a key property in a project, but risk inversion is what

2003
04:40:26,120 --> 04:40:26,980
kills them.

2004
04:40:27,400 --> 04:40:31,380
So being unwilling to operate a manager risks and try to hide from them, trying to put

2005
04:40:31,380 --> 04:40:34,700
them to comply to somebody that says something mean to you in a private meeting rather

2006
04:40:34,700 --> 04:40:35,760
than sticking with the facts.

2007
04:40:36,660 --> 04:40:40,440
So the provinces that they're trying to do their best to show you how big and secure

2008
04:40:40,440 --> 04:40:44,800
their hemorrhars, they literally made up an entire website just to make it look like a

2009
04:40:44,800 --> 04:40:49,060
scarier and to draw a complaint, so they're literally costing only for negative feedback.

2010
04:40:49,800 --> 04:40:52,740
And they'll find some, they'll find anybody to just put that together.

2011
04:40:53,380 --> 04:40:57,960
So the key factor, though, is that that legislation hasn't even been tabled yet.

2012
04:40:58,260 --> 04:40:59,480
It's nowhere near the floor.

2013
04:40:59,720 --> 04:41:00,700
It hasn't been ascended.

2014
04:41:01,040 --> 04:41:02,040
It hasn't been voted for.

2015
04:41:02,640 --> 04:41:03,680
It literally does not exist.

2016
04:41:03,740 --> 04:41:08,100
It is a specter in the clean of the minister's eye and the officer's eye, where they're

2017
04:41:08,100 --> 04:41:10,420
telling people, hey, you know, come to this box.

2018
04:41:10,420 --> 04:41:12,600
who let me tell you the scary thing where you do that.

2019
04:41:13,420 --> 04:41:18,240
It doesn't exist until it's really been signed off, so why are we wasting my

2020
04:41:18,240 --> 04:41:21,700
taps for money, why are we wasting your money on print of the complying?

2021
04:41:21,940 --> 04:41:26,280
You know, I get it, you know, we're trying to cover a basis that's risk management, but

2022
04:41:26,280 --> 04:41:31,300
I feel like we are really tired and hard into the drop everything and screwed away just

2023
04:41:31,300 --> 04:41:35,380
because somebody said something in a back room during brutal scenarios, I'm not a teasing

2024
04:41:35,380 --> 04:41:37,020
but they've done a gun tour.

2025
04:41:37,380 --> 04:41:41,020
The city received this information as a hint, not a fact.

2026
04:41:41,740 --> 04:41:43,200
So, why are we complying in advance?

2027
04:41:43,880 --> 04:41:45,380
Don't waste my money to do it.

2028
04:41:45,500 --> 04:41:49,420
Make the province stick up their talk to make sure that we actually,

2029
04:41:50,500 --> 04:41:53,020
you know, they have a statement on the work in the world and media.

2030
04:41:54,080 --> 04:41:57,640
So, the administration obviously feels it needs to pivot and pivot now.

2031
04:41:58,140 --> 04:41:59,980
I'm going to assume the best political and engineer.

2032
04:42:00,040 --> 04:42:01,620
I mean, tensions from them.

2033
04:42:01,780 --> 04:42:04,840
And it's an indicator for me, but they don't feel like they're counsel or they're

2034
04:42:04,840 --> 04:42:08,900
management leadership. We'll stand up for them when it comes time to defend these projects.

2035
04:42:09,560 --> 04:42:12,980
The problems come knocking. Everybody rules down here and says, hey, I don't even say

2036
04:42:12,980 --> 04:42:18,360
another, I don't really care. You know, proud batter. Sorry about that. So I really hope that's

2037
04:42:18,360 --> 04:42:22,780
the worst version of it. And I really hope we can depend on our city council and city leadership

2038
04:42:22,780 --> 04:42:25,640
to actually defend these projects. Thank you.

2039
04:42:28,620 --> 04:42:33,100
And now we go to Lauren Harding.

2040
04:42:39,000 --> 04:42:40,160
Lauren, are you still with us?

2041
04:42:40,160 --> 04:42:49,480
So yes, apologies, I'm parenting and trying to participate.

2042
04:42:50,600 --> 04:42:51,860
And that's go ahead.

2043
04:42:53,000 --> 04:42:55,680
Okay, so just a moment, I'm going to call it my notes.

2044
04:42:56,300 --> 04:43:02,260
Okay, yeah, so I am coming today as somebody who lives in King Edward Park.

2045
04:43:02,740 --> 04:43:05,060
I'm also another school age child.

2046
04:43:05,980 --> 04:43:15,320
And I am speaking against the amendment under discussion and in support of the 79th Street by Glenn.

2047
04:43:16,740 --> 04:43:21,060
I could then make perspective as a cyclist or a social scientist or environmentalist.

2048
04:43:21,840 --> 04:43:31,180
Instead, I am speaking from my position as a mother trying to parent in an urban area while living with a disability.

2049
04:43:32,460 --> 04:43:40,960
I'm a third generation of Antonian and I was very enthusiastic about moving to King Edward

2050
04:43:40,960 --> 04:43:46,980
Park because of abilities to participate in active transportation and public transportation

2051
04:43:46,980 --> 04:43:49,880
for myself and for my children.

2052
04:43:50,840 --> 04:43:56,340
The proposed bike lane along Selenice in the United States would enhance the safety of my

2053
04:43:56,340 --> 04:44:05,220
who attend more element for school, it will help them connect safely to the library, the

2054
04:44:05,220 --> 04:44:11,520
pool, playgrounds and parks, and their friends' houses. As a parent, I like the idea of

2055
04:44:11,520 --> 04:44:15,940
the separated bike lane because I do not have to worry as much about their safety as they

2056
04:44:15,940 --> 04:44:22,820
explore their neighborhood as they get older. I want to emphasize that street parking creates

2057
04:44:22,820 --> 04:44:27,880
safety hazard from my children crossing the street is very difficult for them to see around

2058
04:44:27,880 --> 04:44:32,260
her vehicles and for her and her vehicles block drivers with my children.

2059
04:44:34,430 --> 04:44:34,970
I also want to

2060
04:44:34,970 --> 04:44:43,170
speak about my inability to drive. I am a 40-year-old and I have a medical condition and I have

2061
04:44:43,170 --> 04:44:50,370
never had driver's license. Edmonton is a very difficult city to work based and raised children

2062
04:44:50,370 --> 04:44:59,970
without a driver's license. I'm lucky that my husband can drive. However, I sometimes feel like a

2063
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:09,740
Second class citizen, and not 40 annum, adult in the city, because everything is open. So much infrastructure, so many everyday

2064
04:45:09,740 --> 04:45:16,940
errands that we need to run as parents, as adults, as workers, are centered around obligatory

2065
04:45:16,940 --> 04:45:24,960
car ownership. I'm asking the council to please consider the needs of those of us who can't drive, but

2066
04:45:24,960 --> 04:45:30,100
still want to participate in our communities and travel through the community.

2067
04:45:30,140 --> 04:45:37,620
To me, as a person with a disability, cycling is freedom and gives me independence in a city

2068
04:45:37,620 --> 04:45:43,580
and a culture that was not built from me and I will see the rest of my time.

2069
04:45:45,760 --> 04:45:49,920
Thank you and Dean Drysdale,

2070
04:45:59,300 --> 04:45:59,940
hello

2071
04:46:06,910 --> 04:46:12,910
yes yes it's your turn to speak okay yeah just like to

2072
04:46:12,910 --> 04:46:18,950
start by saying that I live in one of the affected neighborhoods and it's very disappointing

2073
04:46:18,950 --> 04:46:27,330
to see that the city council has made no effort to notify the affected residents, but have

2074
04:46:27,330 --> 04:46:35,070
lobbied the bike user groups to show up in swarms to speak their side, but the residents

2075
04:46:35,070 --> 04:46:40,270
affected have been more or less kept in the dark on this issue.

2076
04:46:41,010 --> 04:46:48,630
In addition to that, you know, it comes down to a fact that everybody seems to think that

2077
04:46:48,630 --> 04:46:53,810
it needs to be bike lanes or no bike lanes, safety or no safety.

2078
04:46:54,550 --> 04:47:03,950
Why can a city council not figure out a way to add bike lanes without removing traffic and parking

2079
04:47:03,950 --> 04:47:09,750
the way other successful cities do it. This seems to be completely ignored by the

2080
04:47:09,750 --> 04:47:18,270
bike community, which I am a part of. You know, they can build bike lanes beside roads.

2081
04:47:18,750 --> 04:47:26,570
They can make do- do- you'll use pathways, so our pedestrians and bikes. We do not need to

2082
04:47:26,570 --> 04:47:33,190
take away infrastructure that is in place that has been paid for. That is already over

2083
04:47:33,190 --> 04:47:43,490
capacity to hand it over to a very tiny minority of users, and, you know, the reports just

2084
04:47:43,490 --> 04:47:48,310
came out that there was around 2.8 million bike trips last year.

2085
04:47:48,670 --> 04:47:59,930
So, it calculates out to about 2.3 users or 2.3 users per Edmontonian per year.

2086
04:47:59,930 --> 04:48:10,390
So, we are going through all of this money and all of this conflict so that people can use this just over two times a year.

2087
04:48:10,910 --> 04:48:22,950
That doesn't make fiscal sense. When we are already a city that is going backwards, raising taxes, removing services, it just doesn't make any sense.

2088
04:48:22,950 --> 04:48:33,050
You know, from the city's own reports, there are around 2.4 million car trips per day, okay?

2089
04:48:33,330 --> 04:48:46,710
So if you sit down and calculate it out, the annual regular bike users equate to 0.3% of total transportation users.

2090
04:48:46,710 --> 04:48:52,210
when you include bike trips, car trips, and LRT trips.

2091
04:48:52,890 --> 04:49:02,710
So why are we pandering to the, and giving special treatment to 0.3% of our population?

2092
04:49:03,070 --> 04:49:14,010
Signed away to give them infrastructure that keeps them safe while also keeping infrastructure for the most use modes of transportation.

2093
04:49:14,010 --> 04:49:21,350
Thank you, and now Melissa Sturista?

2094
04:49:31,310 --> 04:49:34,970
Hi, here, sorry, just give me one second here.

2095
04:49:43,790 --> 04:49:48,730
I'm speaking today as a Hollywood resident who would be directly affected by the anticipated

2096
04:49:48,730 --> 04:49:50,130
79th Street Road.

2097
04:49:50,710 --> 04:49:56,010
By profession I work in government policy analysis, or much of my work involves assessing risks and trade-offs,

2098
04:49:56,010 --> 04:50:01,050
And evaluating whether decision makers have the information they need to make informed decisions.

2099
04:50:01,690 --> 04:50:06,870
It was from that perspective and that of an impacted resident that I'm reviewing the package today.

2100
04:50:07,770 --> 04:50:10,710
When the package administration acknowledges that engagement was limited,

2101
04:50:11,110 --> 04:50:16,970
and that the bike plan envisioned opportunities for community input during the planning and design of individual routes,

2102
04:50:17,310 --> 04:50:21,230
but that approach was modified to support rapid delivery. That changes important.

2103
04:50:21,230 --> 04:50:24,630
The bike plan established a vision for in that work.

2104
04:50:25,870 --> 04:50:31,130
It did not provide impacted residents with the opportunity to evaluate the specific trade-offs

2105
04:50:31,130 --> 04:50:33,770
or proposed for individual quarters.

2106
04:50:34,730 --> 04:50:38,470
Administration also recognizes that mature neighborhoods are experiencing significant

2107
04:50:38,470 --> 04:50:41,930
cumulative change throughout the development, transportation disruptions,

2108
04:50:42,490 --> 04:50:44,850
and active transportation projects occurring simultaneously.

2109
04:50:45,630 --> 04:50:48,250
And at further acknowledges that parking removal has been the most

2110
04:50:48,250 --> 04:50:50,730
difficult impacts associated with implementation.

2111
04:50:51,590 --> 04:50:55,950
The report suggests that impacted residents may be able to rely on real access parking

2112
04:50:55,950 --> 04:50:57,890
when available or used nearby streets.

2113
04:50:58,410 --> 04:51:01,990
However, this council removed minimum parking requirements for a new development.

2114
04:51:02,690 --> 04:51:07,730
While simultaneously encouraging density in mature neighborhoods, those policy choices may

2115
04:51:07,730 --> 04:51:11,870
each have merit individually, but together they create important questions about future

2116
04:51:11,870 --> 04:51:12,790
curbside demand.

2117
04:51:13,550 --> 04:51:17,770
What I did not find in the materials before committee was evidence of quarters specific

2118
04:51:17,770 --> 04:51:23,070
parking occupancy studies for point roads, a quantified assessment of current and future parking

2119
04:51:23,070 --> 04:51:28,570
demand, or a detailed mitigation strategy to address the combined impacts of increasing density

2120
04:51:28,570 --> 04:51:33,090
and parking removal for bike lane. I'm not suggesting that parking should override

2121
04:51:33,090 --> 04:51:37,390
every other consideration. I'm suggesting that before new projects begin construction,

2122
04:51:37,670 --> 04:51:42,210
that the impact should be clearly understood and supported by evidence. Given the uncertainty

2123
04:51:42,210 --> 04:51:47,110
of anticipated legislation changes, I believe it's responsible to carefully evaluate

2124
04:51:47,110 --> 04:51:52,710
projects that have not yet preceded to avoid unnecessary public expenditures and the environmental

2125
04:51:52,710 --> 04:51:57,710
impacts associated with installing, modifying, and potentially removing infrastructure

2126
04:51:57,710 --> 04:52:02,810
before it's useful life if it has been realized. From a government and policy perspective,

2127
04:52:03,290 --> 04:52:08,410
that approach makes sense. When an organization identifies lessons learned and recommends a revised

2128
04:52:08,410 --> 04:52:14,290
approach, it's justified to apply those lessons learned before proceeding. That is not opposition

2129
04:52:14,290 --> 04:52:18,950
to active transportation, that is good governments, and that is sound decision-making.

2130
04:52:20,070 --> 04:52:23,230
Supporting administration's recommendation does not reject the bike plan,

2131
04:52:23,350 --> 04:52:28,550
and it does not abandon long-term objectives. For those reasons, I respectfully ask committee

2132
04:52:28,550 --> 04:52:29,810
to support administration.

2133
04:52:30,000 --> 04:52:30,720
Thank

2134
04:52:32,770 --> 04:52:37,490
you and now Paul Steroesta.

2135
04:52:45,120 --> 04:52:48,620
Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you fine. Please go ahead.

2136
04:52:50,000 --> 04:53:05,660
That's fine, right here. Okay. Good afternoon council. My name is Paul and I'm an architect with extensive experiences on master plans and multi-modal transit networks across a variety of urban scales from New York City to Halifax all the way to Hungzhou, China.

2137
04:53:05,660 --> 04:53:15,380
Additionally, in my academic research focus on the Netherlands active transportation infrastructure, which is also often considered the gold standard of active transportation.

2138
04:53:16,580 --> 04:53:21,120
I am also directed directly affected by the bike lane on seven-nice street in Hollywood.

2139
04:53:22,520 --> 04:53:31,160
I'm firmly in favor of well-designed bike lanes, however, successful infrastructure requires deep community integration over top-down execution.

2140
04:53:31,160 --> 04:53:38,960
The current 79 street proposal is short-sighted and exposes a stock contradiction in city council's own current planning policies.

2141
04:53:40,320 --> 04:53:42,780
First, consider the policy contradiction regarding parking.

2142
04:53:43,800 --> 04:53:49,100
Just months ago, this council eliminated on-site parking requirements for new developments to encourage density.

2143
04:53:49,740 --> 04:53:54,720
Yet the recommendation before you today suggest that when on-street parking is removed for active transportation,

2144
04:53:54,720 --> 04:53:59,780
Residents can simply use rear access parking on our nearby roadways.

2145
04:54:00,480 --> 04:54:05,200
If in field development continued at the accelerated rate, this council run once,

2146
04:54:06,120 --> 04:54:08,420
what rear access parking will actually be left.

2147
04:54:11,320 --> 04:54:14,020
Furthermore, why are existing?

2148
04:54:17,800 --> 04:54:21,460
Residents expected to rely on rear alleys,

2149
04:54:21,460 --> 04:54:27,960
when new developments are exempt from those same expectations.

2150
04:54:29,880 --> 04:54:39,020
Stripping seven kilometers worth of on-street parking, where these vehicles will go creates a permanency for the majority of people.

2151
04:54:39,400 --> 04:54:43,080
Second, this creates an impossible equation for local accessibility.

2152
04:54:44,200 --> 04:54:50,000
By eliminating both required on-site parking and public on-street parking, you create a direct barrier

2153
04:54:50,000 --> 04:54:56,080
to universal property access. Specifically, three distinct residential blocks along 79

2154
04:54:56,080 --> 04:55:01,460
street in Hollywood, stand over a thousand feet long. Stripping parking away along a thousand

2155
04:55:01,460 --> 04:55:06,280
foot residential stretch effectively turns a friendly neighborhood road into a thoroughfare.

2156
04:55:07,200 --> 04:55:12,020
While some residents have backyard access, for now, this completely cuts off reasonable

2157
04:55:12,020 --> 04:55:17,180
front door access for emergency vehicles, deliveries, utilities, and vulnerable family members

2158
04:55:17,180 --> 04:55:18,900
trying to visit during the winter month.

2159
04:55:26,210 --> 04:55:28,330
Prioritize the wants of able-bodied individuals

2160
04:55:28,330 --> 04:55:31,310
over the fundamental mobility administrations recommended

2161
04:55:31,310 --> 04:55:33,570
recommendation to take a modified approach

2162
04:55:33,570 --> 04:55:36,150
and pause the construction of the plant roads.

2163
04:55:36,670 --> 04:55:39,350
Given the contextual complexities of these bike lanes,

2164
04:55:39,530 --> 04:55:41,950
we must not print seed until a rigorous localized parking

2165
04:55:41,950 --> 04:55:45,310
and traffic studies conducted in all the affected neighborhoods.

2166
04:55:45,890 --> 04:55:49,430
We're all residents that are directly affected are consulted,

2167
04:55:49,910 --> 04:55:52,950
not just to select few, especially alongside nice street.

2168
04:55:52,950 --> 04:56:03,250
Thank you. Thank you and just pulling up the list again. I understand that there's

2169
04:56:03,250 --> 04:56:06,970
a few people that joined but they joined after I did the call so I'm actually just

2170
04:56:06,970 --> 04:56:12,150
going to still continue to go through and then we will do one last call for anybody

2171
04:56:12,150 --> 04:56:17,370
that's here that hasn't had a chance to speak that was registered. So we will go to

2172
04:56:17,370 --> 04:56:20,150
to know one now. I believe that's the next, right?

2173
04:56:21,010 --> 04:56:23,670
Yep. So Noah, are you online?

2174
04:56:24,990 --> 04:56:26,350
Yep. Thank you.

2175
04:56:26,490 --> 04:56:27,750
Please go ahead.

2176
04:56:29,510 --> 04:56:32,710
So here's a private citizen. I am an engineer by training.

2177
04:56:32,870 --> 04:56:35,470
I have a close graduate degree in engineering as well.

2178
04:56:35,690 --> 04:56:37,150
But that's some areas for expertise.

2179
04:56:37,370 --> 04:56:39,930
I'm coming from a personal experience point of view.

2180
04:56:40,470 --> 04:56:42,510
Pilot in the government center neighborhood

2181
04:56:42,510 --> 04:56:45,390
where, unfortunately, we're in the one pocket that's not served by

2182
04:56:46,030 --> 04:56:51,850
there are black links to the north of us, there are black links to the east of us, and then if you go far enough, there are black links to the west of us.

2183
04:56:52,010 --> 04:56:56,420
This is created an interesting situation for my family. I've actually been in contact with the city.

2184
04:56:57,490 --> 04:57:00,790
Our number of cases trying to get black links installed because I have young kids.

2185
04:57:01,270 --> 04:57:07,810
One of whom actually was almost one of whom I've got a car recently, but she was trying to write her bicycle. She calls it being ham sandwiched.

2186
04:57:08,250 --> 04:57:14,890
Unfortunately, this is a regular concern for us. We are seeing increased usage of the sidewalks

2187
04:57:14,890 --> 04:57:19,290
by bicycles because of the lack of infrastructure. There are a lot of vehicles moving around.

2188
04:57:19,870 --> 04:57:24,330
I personally started using my bicycles commute around downtown because I stumbled across the

2189
04:57:24,330 --> 04:57:29,970
one-second app. Bikes are some of those in there. I realized it's more efficient for me to use my

2190
04:57:29,970 --> 04:57:36,190
bike to drop up my daughter at preschool and then proceed to work. I support actually the acceleration

2191
04:57:36,190 --> 04:57:40,890
of this plant. I think it's worth a lot to put the infrastructure in. If a structure is never static,

2192
04:57:40,890 --> 04:57:50,190
It will evolve over time, but where we appear to be heading, is definitely positive I am seeing an increased number of cyclists in my neighborhood of all demographics.

2193
04:57:51,090 --> 04:57:56,210
The long area, unfortunately, we're not seeing a lot of these young people because they're too terrified to write their bikes for them.

2194
04:57:56,770 --> 04:58:05,430
Take on the road, sir, competing with cars, which has a hazard. One of my kids has actually been hit by a car, which resulted in charges against a particular driver.

2195
04:58:05,970 --> 04:58:16,250
The situation we have at the moment is unsafe and then in no way are we encouraging people to use bicycles by doing things like delaying plants or pulling them out.

2196
04:58:16,610 --> 04:58:24,990
I am against the city's administration's recommendation to pause the plan and I think we need to rule forward and realizing that over time and over the decades these things would just have to evolve.

2197
04:58:25,650 --> 04:58:26,650
I see the rest of my time.

2198
04:58:29,710 --> 04:58:30,490
Thank you.

2199
04:58:30,730 --> 04:58:31,530
Thank you.

2200
04:58:32,370 --> 04:58:36,510
Now, just going to the list,

2201
04:58:41,270 --> 04:58:43,610
this is where it gets wonky because I'm now overlapping with my other

2202
04:58:43,910 --> 04:58:46,110
Who's next? Madam chair.

2203
04:58:46,570 --> 04:58:47,070
Chart clerk.

2204
04:58:47,450 --> 04:58:48,490
I'm the chair.

2205
04:58:48,750 --> 04:58:49,370
Oh my gosh.

2206
04:58:49,990 --> 04:58:53,350
We, we called on speaker Hannah Davidson.

2207
04:58:54,650 --> 04:58:58,470
Okay, then I started circling instead. Okay, thank you. Hannah Davidson.

2208
04:59:01,890 --> 04:59:02,710
Yeah, I'm sure.

2209
04:59:03,110 --> 04:59:03,650
Please go ahead.

2210
04:59:07,480 --> 04:59:10,500
Awesome. Awesome. You guys can hear me again? Yes, we can hear you just fine.

2211
04:59:11,300 --> 04:59:20,080
Awesome. Hi, Council. Thanks so much for having me. I'm a Gold Bar resident. I have a picture on this thing here, but I took myself.

2212
04:59:20,660 --> 04:59:28,260
I can hear from Gold Bar to Nate Arthubac. I just wanted to speak a little bit about my experience being a homeowner in this area.

2213
04:59:28,260 --> 04:59:41,160
I'm a young person. I bought my home just two years ago. I was previously living in Vitchie, which is an area pretty well-service by bike lanes and I was able to take a bike lane pretty much from my front door to work.

2214
04:59:41,540 --> 04:59:49,020
I'm completely protected, year-round, I'm really cheap, I don't want to pay $15 a day for parking that late. So I arrived my bike.

2215
04:59:49,020 --> 04:59:54,320
I also solved my code, so my householders able to go from two cars to one because of this

2216
04:59:54,320 --> 04:59:58,600
bike availability and using this we will be able to save a lot of money towards our

2217
04:59:58,600 --> 04:59:59,200
house.

2218
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:14,560
On the other side of the regime surrendered a go-and-go bar, and a big part of that decision was looking at the city bike plan. So seeing where bike lanes were planned, how they could get me to work, and when they would be, was a big factor in our whole blind decision.

2219
05:00:14,560 --> 05:00:21,740
So, here in the district pictured, the bike rain was supposed to go in in 2026, yet to see

2220
05:00:21,740 --> 05:00:25,100
that happen is that a lot of how outcry about it.

2221
05:00:25,480 --> 05:00:31,700
But I was really hoping to speak today to Council to think about how citizens need to halt,

2222
05:00:32,520 --> 05:00:38,520
pause, stop, roll over for the provincial government, may affect people who really relied on those documents

2223
05:00:38,520 --> 05:00:41,160
to guide huge decisions like buying a home.

2224
05:00:41,160 --> 05:00:49,620
I will too to urge them to reject administrations proposal to hold this and just kind of hope that the

2225
05:00:49,620 --> 05:00:53,100
provincial government will stop like means for them.

2226
05:00:53,400 --> 05:01:00,180
I do think that's a pretty weak proposal to give when we all voted in this last municipal election

2227
05:01:00,180 --> 05:01:06,720
about what we wanted and majority was that the council's were reelected on their bike platforms.

2228
05:01:06,720 --> 05:01:12,900
There's a really strong level of support for bike lanes and safety and pedestrian safety

2229
05:01:12,900 --> 05:01:13,820
in Edmonton.

2230
05:01:13,920 --> 05:01:18,960
We see ourselves drifting further away from vision zero, which is a really bad to see.

2231
05:01:19,660 --> 05:01:24,360
But overall, I think that residents are pushing for more infrastructure that keeps people safe.

2232
05:01:24,820 --> 05:01:27,960
This includes guy in the picture, kids in the stroller and the back.

2233
05:01:28,580 --> 05:01:31,820
Sandwich between the door zone of the car and then oncoming SCV.

2234
05:01:32,680 --> 05:01:38,100
Let's currently not say 150 a street and I'm really looking forward for when the 50 a street

2235
05:01:38,100 --> 05:01:44,100
by thing goes in and I can show that gap of my commute as currently the most unsafe.

2236
05:01:45,260 --> 05:01:46,800
Thank you, I can see the rest of my time.

2237
05:01:48,820 --> 05:01:51,620
Thank you and now I will go to Carly Chen.

2238
05:01:55,240 --> 05:01:59,340
You're kind of, can you try again?

2239
05:02:01,220 --> 05:02:01,740
Hi.

2240
05:02:02,200 --> 05:02:02,500
Hi.

2241
05:02:02,840 --> 05:02:03,720
You're a bit muffled.

2242
05:02:40,250 --> 05:02:40,790
Okay,

2243
05:02:43,410 --> 05:02:48,790
my name is Kylie Chen. I am a huge fan of using city amenities without being killed by driver.

2244
05:02:49,050 --> 05:02:50,990
It's one of my favorite things I love it.

2245
05:02:51,950 --> 05:02:56,130
Protected bike lanes have let me and my child attend school work.

2246
05:02:56,130 --> 05:03:00,030
We've been able to go to summer camps that would otherwise have been able to access,

2247
05:03:00,170 --> 05:03:02,570
able to access swimming lessons, and connect with friends.

2248
05:03:03,270 --> 05:03:08,230
If there's not a safe protected connected route to our destination, it often means that we just can't go.

2249
05:03:09,410 --> 05:03:13,990
And although the city has certainly improved our infrastructure in the past 10 years or so,

2250
05:03:14,290 --> 05:03:20,790
there are so many gaps in the network, which is exactly the problem that this active transportation network expansion plan is trying to address.

2251
05:03:20,790 --> 05:03:26,210
So, city planners have included protected bike lanes in that plan because we know that they

2252
05:03:26,210 --> 05:03:31,150
work to keep everyone, pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers safer if they travel with

2253
05:03:31,150 --> 05:03:31,750
a new city.

2254
05:03:32,350 --> 05:03:37,630
They also work to decrease long-term traffic congestion and save them in Tony's money by providing

2255
05:03:37,630 --> 05:03:42,010
a safe alternative to driving, which is noted in the city's climate implementation priorities

2256
05:03:42,010 --> 05:03:43,790
that I believe you'll see next week.

2257
05:03:44,950 --> 05:03:49,210
Campus already approved the transportation network expansion plan and we deserve to see it completed

2258
05:03:49,210 --> 05:03:55,030
as intended. I ask that we not preemptively eviscerate our own safety infrastructure just

2259
05:03:55,030 --> 05:03:58,930
because the province is threatening to hurt us again. We definitely shouldn't do it because

2260
05:03:58,930 --> 05:04:05,190
we value parking spaces over safe active transportation. Instead, you land in support of our decisions

2261
05:04:05,190 --> 05:04:09,230
as a city. Ask the province why, as fuel costs rise,

2262
05:04:12,370 --> 05:04:13,570
they would want to push the constituents

2263
05:04:13,570 --> 05:04:18,570
away from using one of the cheapest and simplest possible forms of transportation. Ask why they

2264
05:04:18,570 --> 05:04:22,410
feel acceptable to further endanger the lives of Albertans for a cheap shot called your work

2265
05:04:22,410 --> 05:04:26,610
in Mac. Please reject it and it's been proposal. I see the rest of my time.

2266
05:04:28,500 --> 05:04:33,360
Thank you. And now we will go to Laura. Please go ahead.

2267
05:04:33,700 --> 05:04:34,220
Will be right.

2268
05:04:37,340 --> 05:04:39,060
Sorry, I'm not sure you're Mike's on.

2269
05:04:44,080 --> 05:04:45,460
That I can hear it click. Now try.

2270
05:04:46,500 --> 05:04:49,100
My name's Laura. I live in the Hollywood neighborhood, Ward, Meaty.

2271
05:04:49,280 --> 05:04:51,700
I love the Edmonton. I've lived in Cycle here for 45 years.

2272
05:04:51,920 --> 05:04:55,000
I went and driven a car for 16 of those. I've got a really good idea.

2273
05:04:55,000 --> 05:04:58,120
what cycling is like in our city, I've crossed north to south east to west.

2274
05:04:58,260 --> 05:05:01,260
I wrote to Millwoods from Hollywood and all kinds of weather.

2275
05:05:01,540 --> 05:05:04,100
Get to my shopping, cafes, shows, dentists, protests.

2276
05:05:04,580 --> 05:05:05,840
Tell you a lot about the bike pass as well.

2277
05:05:05,920 --> 05:05:09,600
The gravel, the snow piles, where I got hit when I car crossed the bike path.

2278
05:05:09,840 --> 05:05:11,800
I can tell you about the corner I rode by for 20 years.

2279
05:05:11,940 --> 05:05:14,800
My way to work in the very same corner where 13-year-old cyclists

2280
05:05:14,800 --> 05:05:16,940
was recently left for dead.

2281
05:05:17,520 --> 05:05:20,440
I looked at the cycling in the city, sometimes very good in some places,

2282
05:05:20,580 --> 05:05:21,240
and it's improving.

2283
05:05:21,740 --> 05:05:23,960
We've been advocating for this for a very, very long time.

2284
05:05:23,960 --> 05:05:26,620
As some of it got done, I was delighted to find out

2285
05:05:26,620 --> 05:05:28,500
that I was getting a bike path to my own neighborhood

2286
05:05:28,500 --> 05:05:30,360
right around the corner on 79th Street,

2287
05:05:30,600 --> 05:05:32,180
the Missy Connection filled in for me.

2288
05:05:32,360 --> 05:05:34,440
Now we're being dored, number dodging around park cars.

2289
05:05:34,560 --> 05:05:35,900
The kids can get to school and talk.

2290
05:05:36,060 --> 05:05:37,500
The seniors can ride to the senior center,

2291
05:05:37,900 --> 05:05:38,600
and I have a shag window.

2292
05:05:38,840 --> 05:05:40,420
My very good neighbor came around a flyer

2293
05:05:40,420 --> 05:05:41,620
as opposed to the bike lane.

2294
05:05:41,820 --> 05:05:42,500
So I asked, why?

2295
05:05:42,980 --> 05:05:44,880
Because she said, nobody ever rides her bike here.

2296
05:05:45,260 --> 05:05:46,160
Nobody rides in the winter.

2297
05:05:46,520 --> 05:05:47,480
The seniors can't get around.

2298
05:05:47,720 --> 05:05:48,880
They'll take a rare green space.

2299
05:05:49,220 --> 05:05:50,500
Family and friends won't be able to visit.

2300
05:05:50,900 --> 05:05:52,920
And I learned something listening to my neighbor.

2301
05:05:52,920 --> 05:05:56,080
We've created a bit of a monster with some help from the Minister of Transport.

2302
05:05:56,300 --> 05:06:00,940
We've made excuses, pinched pennies, done cycling for infrastructure so very badly.

2303
05:06:01,320 --> 05:06:03,940
We've put people off bike lanes and we're starting to do it again.

2304
05:06:04,300 --> 05:06:07,640
We'll say we'll just modify that idea, pull back a little, paint a line instead of a curb,

2305
05:06:07,860 --> 05:06:10,740
skimp in the signals, and we forget that we're building cities for people.

2306
05:06:11,240 --> 05:06:12,840
And I can hear the chamber of commerce right now.

2307
05:06:12,920 --> 05:06:15,200
This is a car city, always has been always well-being.

2308
05:06:15,320 --> 05:06:17,740
Tell that to the people who've gathered here for thousands of years.

2309
05:06:18,100 --> 05:06:19,260
Tell that to my friend and a wheelchair.

2310
05:06:19,260 --> 05:06:22,940
It just wants an accessible route to the corner store on her own time by herself.

2311
05:06:23,260 --> 05:06:26,180
They can take the train with her dad down to the river valley for bike ride.

2312
05:06:26,540 --> 05:06:29,560
Guy's cycling to work on 34th Street north over the sidewalk ends.

2313
05:06:29,860 --> 05:06:32,360
My granddaughter, she doesn't drive over to visit me because she's 14.

2314
05:06:32,860 --> 05:06:34,540
The cops don't have rights in church or square.

2315
05:06:34,780 --> 05:06:39,200
The sketchy dudes who bring their bikes onto the LRT, the toddlers and their push bikes on the way to the spray park.

2316
05:06:39,480 --> 05:06:42,300
They all have reasons to go around the city and they're right to choice.

2317
05:06:42,460 --> 05:06:43,460
They are us.

2318
05:06:43,800 --> 05:06:48,380
Please move ahead with a plan to stay clean and to respect her, especially on 75th Street.

2319
05:06:48,380 --> 05:06:52,700
Funded on to the transportation they make sense for all of us gives choice to each

2320
05:06:52,700 --> 05:06:55,160
Edmontonian, even the invisible ones.

2321
05:06:55,580 --> 05:06:58,920
Build for people, not cards, not ministers, not property values.

2322
05:06:59,600 --> 05:07:01,020
God let her yesterday from administration.

2323
05:07:01,720 --> 05:07:05,940
He writes, local authorities allocate funding and resources to the projects in their areas

2324
05:07:05,940 --> 05:07:07,780
which best meet their local needs.

2325
05:07:08,480 --> 05:07:09,240
That's on us.

2326
05:07:09,460 --> 05:07:12,580
Right here right now, please make the choice to serve local needs.

2327
05:07:12,880 --> 05:07:17,300
I say the locals need safe, well-fought out transportation choices that bring joy and

2328
05:07:17,300 --> 05:07:21,860
of community. And the kids in Hollywood where they live, they walk to school, they bite to

2329
05:07:21,860 --> 05:07:25,840
can all work, and now they're on their way to Harry and Lee by the train, choices for all

2330
05:07:25,840 --> 05:07:27,720
of us. Thank you.

2331
05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:34,520
Thank you. And now we go to James Phillips.

2332
05:07:41,280 --> 05:07:41,420
Hello.

2333
05:07:42,160 --> 05:07:44,020
Hi. Go ahead with your time, please.

2334
05:07:45,940 --> 05:07:46,060
Okay.

2335
05:07:48,600 --> 05:07:57,120
So, for both of the last year when the, kind of three second, by, by my, right, which ward was it?

2336
05:07:57,120 --> 05:08:04,400
or Denny. Since the 100 second avenue bike claim came controversial, I've been participating

2337
05:08:04,400 --> 05:08:13,340
in a weekly backing town. Bike club where we bike in from new bike trails in the Northeast

2338
05:08:13,340 --> 05:08:27,100
as see how I go. And last week we went from 66th Street to 29th Avenue to Vegefest. And we

2339
05:08:27,100 --> 05:08:32,940
But the bike is still under construction, so you like one or other way to move.

2340
05:08:33,460 --> 05:08:40,200
So one of the criticisms that these bike players, nobody uses them because they're not continuous yet.

2341
05:08:40,640 --> 05:08:41,580
There's gaps,

2342
05:08:43,810 --> 05:08:44,890
we also want to mention.

2343
05:08:48,390 --> 05:08:52,490
Oh, yeah, another combined effort is that cars get stuck behind buses.

2344
05:08:53,050 --> 05:08:55,030
Now there's only one car lane.

2345
05:08:56,470 --> 05:09:00,850
That actually may be a good thing for traffic both perspective because cars are the least

2346
05:09:00,850 --> 05:09:04,350
space-efficient vehicle available in the city.

2347
05:09:07,600 --> 05:09:14,500
So basically nobody takes a bus by choice, it's always faster to go by car, so the cars

2348
05:09:14,500 --> 05:09:19,160
are forced to wait for the bus because more people on the bus which will actually have more

2349
05:09:19,160 --> 05:09:19,660
throughput.

2350
05:09:25,040 --> 05:09:31,580
It's kind of orange-filled by not just bikes, but that'll do your buzzers get stuck in traffic.

2351
05:09:32,220 --> 05:09:36,940
The video with a downstown, some paradox and explains to us that.

2352
05:09:37,280 --> 05:09:44,220
Basically, the pieces of that video is that there's nobody who really died hard to psych this or died hard.

2353
05:09:44,400 --> 05:09:46,140
Card driver or died hard.

2354
05:09:47,520 --> 05:09:58,300
If you want the most efficient way to get where they're going, and the problem with cars is that they take up so much space, no room for everybody to get where they're going.

2355
05:10:04,330 --> 05:10:05,750
And I think it's worth all I have to add.

2356
05:10:06,090 --> 05:10:07,070
Thank you.

2357
05:10:08,890 --> 05:10:09,670
Thank you.

2358
05:10:10,770 --> 05:10:13,010
And now we go to Jason Wang.

2359
05:10:17,700 --> 05:10:18,720
This is running over.

2360
05:10:27,180 --> 05:10:27,820
This is on it.

2361
05:10:28,040 --> 05:10:28,260
Yep.

2362
05:10:28,540 --> 05:10:28,880
Please go ahead.

2363
05:10:29,020 --> 05:10:29,820
Thanks so much.

2364
05:10:30,740 --> 05:10:31,160
Thank you committee.

2365
05:10:31,240 --> 05:10:33,120
Thanks for the opportunity to speak here today.

2366
05:10:33,120 --> 05:10:37,660
I'm here to urge you to build out the active transportation network expansion as planned,

2367
05:10:38,180 --> 05:10:41,300
especially as it is already behind schedule.

2368
05:10:42,300 --> 05:10:48,840
I wanted to tell you about how my family has been impacted by the active transportation networks

2369
05:10:48,840 --> 05:10:54,320
that have already been built as a reason for why we need to keep building quickly.

2370
05:10:55,360 --> 05:10:59,140
My family first moved here in 2000 from China and we could not afford a car.

2371
05:10:59,140 --> 05:11:06,260
But my parents wanted to integrate us into the community and to the city. The first thing we got were bikes to get around

2372
05:11:06,260 --> 05:11:13,400
I fondly remember in the summer of 2001 biking to the heritage festival feeling so welcomed there by the city

2373
05:11:14,080 --> 05:11:18,720
And of course, that's in Horlach Park and we'd like through the Kenner Veeing from

2374
05:11:18,720 --> 05:11:23,280
Britannia Young's field or Britannia Young's town you've been field where we lived

2375
05:11:23,280 --> 05:11:28,100
That trip was only possible because previous councils had prioritized active transportation

2376
05:11:28,880 --> 05:11:32,740
After a few years, we moved to Millwoods where we bought a townhouse.

2377
05:11:33,300 --> 05:11:37,460
I was lucky to live next to a school field, spending my summer days there in the green

2378
05:11:37,460 --> 05:11:39,680
shack program without needing to cross any roads.

2379
05:11:40,300 --> 05:11:43,100
I've parents felt completely safe letting me out the door.

2380
05:11:43,820 --> 05:11:48,180
As I grew older, I'd liked with my friends to the public library in Millwoods for the summer

2381
05:11:48,180 --> 05:11:51,800
reading program, the air conditioning, and to play games on the computer there.

2382
05:11:52,580 --> 05:11:57,040
But when we moved south of the end day to Rutherford, we were suddenly surrounded by asphalt

2383
05:11:57,040 --> 05:12:04,040
and collector roads. My younger brother never had the same opportunities that I did and he turned

2384
05:12:04,040 --> 05:12:12,080
over differently from me. Nowadays as a resident near 76 Avenue, I'm trying to pick because I want

2385
05:12:12,080 --> 05:12:18,400
my future kids to have the same benefits that I did. I'm so happy to see families out on the lanes

2386
05:12:18,400 --> 05:12:23,400
on the active transportation lanes. Seeing kids play out in the front yards where those lanes

2387
05:12:23,400 --> 05:12:29,400
offer protection and security. And those same kids, I love to see running their lemonade stand,

2388
05:12:30,940 --> 05:12:36,000
near those lanes where there is street parking, but I've never seen driver stop to buy

2389
05:12:36,000 --> 05:12:42,900
lemonade. I've only seen cyclists and pedestrians stop for them. My parents moved to Edmonton

2390
05:12:42,900 --> 05:12:48,620
because of economic opportunity, freedom, and to give me a better life. Edmonton has delivered,

2391
05:12:48,620 --> 05:12:58,400
Offering all of these public services and in a connected way has given me, given me, and my family, that freedom and opportunity.

2392
05:12:59,620 --> 05:13:05,500
I want more Edmontonians and all awards to experience that same freedom that I've been privileged to experience.

2393
05:13:06,080 --> 05:13:09,960
And even as a driver now, I feel the same way.

2394
05:13:10,440 --> 05:13:13,280
I want more people to be able to use active transportation.

2395
05:13:13,920 --> 05:13:18,860
And, again, as the report's note, the implementation is already behind schedule.

2396
05:13:19,780 --> 05:13:24,940
Based on some quick analysis that I've done on open data, vehicle lanes, so lane

2397
05:13:24,940 --> 05:13:30,640
clombers have grown by 50% since 2014, and other infrastructure isn't.

2398
05:13:30,880 --> 05:13:34,940
I ask that we not only stick to the plan, but do everything we can to get it done as

2399
05:13:34,940 --> 05:13:35,740
soon as possible.

2400
05:13:36,340 --> 05:13:37,640
It's time to build Edmonton Build.

2401
05:13:38,740 --> 05:13:39,400
Thank you.

2402
05:13:40,460 --> 05:13:43,100
Thank you, and then Justin Wheeler.

2403
05:13:48,300 --> 05:13:48,480
Hello.

2404
05:13:49,680 --> 05:13:50,040
Um, apologies.

2405
05:13:50,340 --> 05:13:53,140
I'm off camera because I'm driving right now.

2406
05:13:53,840 --> 05:13:55,120
With the hands free device.

2407
05:13:55,500 --> 05:13:55,740
Good.

2408
05:13:56,980 --> 05:13:58,260
Um, I'm speaking to you.

2409
05:13:58,360 --> 05:13:58,560
Okay.

2410
05:13:59,060 --> 05:13:59,700
Yes, we can.

2411
05:14:01,800 --> 05:14:02,040
Okay.

2412
05:14:04,020 --> 05:14:12,120
I'm here to speak against the proposal to preemptively obey with a ridiculous proposal from the

2413
05:14:12,120 --> 05:14:18,260
of government's interest rate, the authority of municipal governments, the citizens of

2414
05:14:18,260 --> 05:14:21,960
February, in that attempt, had it in every municipality across the province.

2415
05:14:24,670 --> 05:14:28,350
I agree with a lot of what's been said before, so I'll turn off to repeat it.

2416
05:14:28,670 --> 05:14:33,270
I think a few key points that are maybe new are worth amplifying.

2417
05:14:33,870 --> 05:14:38,070
One, we're lucky to live in a representative democracy.

2418
05:14:38,070 --> 05:14:50,730
We just had a municipal election not too long ago, the bike plan and active transportation plan was a known thing at that time and this council was voted in without known condition.

2419
05:14:52,070 --> 05:14:58,910
So when you think about the feedback of the few including the few that are here today on both sides.

2420
05:15:00,020 --> 05:15:08,520
There's nothing compared to the millions of citizens that voted in the election and elected this council in the context of this plan.

2421
05:15:11,700 --> 05:15:18,000
The second thing I want to share, sorry about the beeping, it's just a personal story.

2422
05:15:18,880 --> 05:15:29,800
So I'm a driver, I'm driving right now. I'm also a biker. This year I had a transplant and after that transplant, I was not allowed to drive for at least three months,

2423
05:15:30,700 --> 05:15:42,190
which meant that almost daily appointments either had to have someone drive you or had to find another way to get to the hospital from our home in Oxford.

2424
05:15:43,550 --> 05:15:52,550
Initially that meant that my wife also had to be on leave from work, not just be on leave from work, so that she could drive me to inform hospital.

2425
05:15:53,130 --> 05:15:57,050
And wait there while I did my various appointments, physio and blood work, etc.

2426
05:15:57,770 --> 05:16:03,910
It was such a relief within about four weeks when I was finally able to switch.

2427
05:16:03,910 --> 05:16:08,270
I wasn't allowed to use a bike yet, but I was allowed to use an electric scooter,

2428
05:16:08,630 --> 05:16:12,130
and because there was a protected bike land, I'd have been recently installed all

2429
05:16:12,130 --> 05:16:13,670
on the 130th Street.

2430
05:16:14,170 --> 05:16:18,970
I was able to safely get myself to the hospital, which meant that my wife could go back

2431
05:16:18,970 --> 05:16:24,650
to work, and I had a lot of my freedom, and I was severely able to compromise.

2432
05:16:24,650 --> 05:16:29,190
So I wasn't safe to be on public transit, so this was a safe way for me to get to

2433
05:16:29,190 --> 05:16:36,550
join from my new partners that really supported my and is already my recovery from my surgery.

2434
05:16:37,750 --> 05:16:43,310
This is just one of many examples of the uses of what we call the day claims.

2435
05:16:44,530 --> 05:16:51,010
It's not just bikes, it's elderly people on mobility devices, it's people on scooters,

2436
05:16:51,010 --> 05:16:54,850
It's kids learning to ride bikes or scoot into school.

2437
05:16:57,050 --> 05:16:59,490
I've seen your kids using them.

2438
05:16:59,730 --> 05:17:02,030
I've seen unhoused people using them.

2439
05:17:02,430 --> 05:17:07,230
I've seen going and coming people who don't afford a car or don't have a license.

2440
05:17:08,010 --> 05:17:08,990
Using bike lanes.

2441
05:17:10,790 --> 05:17:12,470
This is an important part of our infrastructure.

2442
05:17:14,130 --> 05:17:14,510
Thanks.

2443
05:17:14,810 --> 05:17:15,650
Thank you very much.

2444
05:17:18,310 --> 05:17:24,370
And that concludes as any member of committee or council, have any questions for this panel.

2445
05:17:28,900 --> 05:17:32,800
I'm just going to wait to see if there's anybody on the Kate and there's nobody on the list.

2446
05:17:33,380 --> 05:17:36,520
And then I will just before we go to questions of administration.

2447
05:17:37,440 --> 05:17:38,500
I will just do one final.

2448
05:17:38,720 --> 05:17:46,360
Is there anybody in chambers or online present that was registered and is not had an opportunity to speak?

2449
05:17:47,240 --> 05:17:50,840
Okay, hi, Carly, yes?

2450
05:17:50,840 --> 05:17:51,660
Yep, six.

2451
05:17:52,440 --> 05:17:52,940
Merlin.

2452
05:17:54,640 --> 05:17:56,400
Carly's here, okay, and then who?

2453
05:17:57,900 --> 05:17:58,540
Merlin Chen.

2454
05:17:59,160 --> 05:18:01,480
Merlin Chen.

2455
05:18:01,680 --> 05:18:04,220
Merlin Chen, okay, sorry.

2456
05:18:08,760 --> 05:18:09,700
Who's Ray?

2457
05:18:12,240 --> 05:18:13,680
Oh, sorry, that's Renee.

2458
05:18:14,060 --> 05:18:15,740
Renee, why's her gang here now?

2459
05:18:18,360 --> 05:18:19,120
Is that everyone?

2460
05:18:19,120 --> 05:18:20,020
And

2461
05:18:22,680 --> 05:18:23,880
then nobody in chambers.

2462
05:18:26,300 --> 05:18:28,880
Merlin, please go ahead with your time.

2463
05:18:32,290 --> 05:18:32,670
Bike lanes.

2464
05:18:32,970 --> 05:18:34,930
Against administration's recommendation.

2465
05:18:36,250 --> 05:18:37,450
What makes a bike lane?

2466
05:18:37,870 --> 05:18:39,910
Well, that's a very interesting question.

2467
05:18:40,510 --> 05:18:48,670
Bike lanes can sometimes be classified as protected spaces separated from cars using concrete or a painted picture of a bike.

2468
05:18:48,990 --> 05:18:49,770
Which one is better?

2469
05:18:49,770 --> 05:19:05,750
Well, if a driver isn't the one that's concrete to offer his protection, if a driver isn't paying attention, the painted, the protected bike lane will prevent them from dealing too much damage, painted bike shell, however, has no such use.

2470
05:19:06,070 --> 05:19:11,970
If a driver isn't looking where they're going, painting the size of small oven isn't going to help.

2471
05:19:11,970 --> 05:19:24,170
Furthermore, if you look closely, you'll see a single final upside pushed around left, telling people to go on the road.

2472
05:19:24,710 --> 05:19:34,090
Assuming that we're not protected by glace, as you can see in this picture, the closest thing to one is a painting, going on the road will be going into a laying cell with cars.

2473
05:19:34,090 --> 05:19:35,650
Let's know protection.

2474
05:19:36,450 --> 05:19:37,210
Do you want that?

2475
05:19:37,650 --> 05:19:42,010
Going into a space where one wrong move can risk your life?

2476
05:19:42,870 --> 05:19:44,610
Build those protected by claims.

2477
05:19:46,510 --> 05:19:47,710
2019 survey.

2478
05:19:48,250 --> 05:19:50,390
At this point, you might be asking yourself,

2479
05:19:50,850 --> 05:19:52,090
Why do we need bike lanes?

2480
05:19:52,530 --> 05:19:54,570
They are far more cars than bikes than I've mentioned.

2481
05:19:55,310 --> 05:19:56,090
And that's true.

2482
05:19:56,290 --> 05:19:57,710
So why build bike lanes?

2483
05:19:58,190 --> 05:20:01,510
Because the survey conducted in 2019

2484
05:20:01,510 --> 05:20:08,170
team shows that more than 30% of Edmonton's population would choose to ride a bike if given

2485
05:20:08,170 --> 05:20:11,470
better condition for it.

2486
05:20:11,470 --> 05:20:20,770
The interested but concerned about the orange section in the pie chart represents the people

2487
05:20:20,770 --> 05:20:23,370
who would like to ride a bike under better conditions.

2488
05:20:23,990 --> 05:20:28,650
Again, that's more than 70% of all burden of Edmonton's population.

2489
05:20:29,190 --> 05:20:32,850
70% whose voices aren't even being heard right now.

2490
05:20:33,090 --> 05:20:34,270
But we can change that.

2491
05:20:34,490 --> 05:20:36,910
Please reject administrations or recommendation.

2492
05:20:42,700 --> 05:20:43,300
Here you go.

2493
05:20:45,050 --> 05:20:45,690
Excuse me.

2494
05:20:45,930 --> 05:20:46,450
Well, I'm glad.

2495
05:20:46,990 --> 05:20:47,410
You're done.

2496
05:20:47,510 --> 05:20:48,210
Thank you, Merlin.

2497
05:20:48,450 --> 05:20:50,770
Sorry for mixing you up with Carly.

2498
05:20:51,050 --> 05:20:51,870
Who already spoke.

2499
05:20:52,850 --> 05:20:54,630
Renee, please go ahead with your time.

2500
05:20:56,110 --> 05:20:56,250
Hi.

2501
05:20:56,310 --> 05:20:56,990
Thank you so much.

2502
05:20:57,070 --> 05:21:00,330
I just want to thank everybody for giving me this time to speak.

2503
05:21:01,290 --> 05:21:04,170
I understand bike lanes are essential.

2504
05:21:04,170 --> 05:21:16,970
I 100% agree with the addition of bike lanes in areas that are high-density, but as someone in the community who lives directly on 79th Street.

2505
05:21:17,590 --> 05:21:26,590
I feel like sick to my stomach just thinking about how my screen, my neighborhood will be negatively affected by this specific project.

2506
05:21:26,590 --> 05:21:31,930
So I'm specifically looking for them to address kind of like the concerns especially within

2507
05:21:32,910 --> 05:21:39,690
Our neighborhood of Hollywood. I bought house my first time home. I was so excited. I love the Edmonton

2508
05:21:39,690 --> 05:21:47,030
I've lived in my whole life and I recently bought a house on 79th Street and after learning about this change that will happen

2509
05:21:47,030 --> 05:21:52,070
I feel just honestly like sick. I feel like I need a mistake

2510
05:21:52,070 --> 05:21:57,970
And I still believe by claims are valuable, but I feel like they should be well thought out and I feel like

2511
05:21:57,970 --> 05:22:04,410
People just need to have a little bit more empathy for people that are going to be negatively affected by the changes.

2512
05:22:05,250 --> 05:22:11,030
So I just want them to reconsider and put a little bit more thought in time into the people within communities.

2513
05:22:11,150 --> 05:22:16,870
For example, like they'll live directly on new paths and how we can make it a little bit more have a little bit more compromise.

2514
05:22:17,430 --> 05:22:22,970
So I do hope that they will just take a look at the plans and put a little bit more thought

2515
05:22:22,970 --> 05:22:27,050
in timing considerations of people that are directly affected.

2516
05:22:27,850 --> 05:22:29,830
So I still think that we should have bike lanes.

2517
05:22:30,000 --> 05:22:50,080
I still think that they're important in the community. I don't think it has to be black or white. I just think a little more consideration in time, into these new, new bike lanes and new routes, just to make it a little like some type of compromise for people that live in the neighborhood. So that's what I'd say. I can see the rest of my time.

2518
05:22:51,800 --> 05:22:58,120
Thank you, that concludes our final speakers, any questions for the two final speakers.

2519
05:23:00,090 --> 05:23:03,430
I'm going to assume none because that's been our.

2520
05:23:03,530 --> 05:23:04,970
So far we haven't had any questions.

2521
05:23:06,650 --> 05:23:12,330
So we will move on now to, first of all, before we move on.

2522
05:23:12,590 --> 05:23:14,830
Thank you everybody for your time, energy,

2523
05:23:14,830 --> 05:23:23,610
be in joining us today and sharing your thoughts on this topic, yeah, it's just I'm on behalf

2524
05:23:23,610 --> 05:23:27,470
of my colleagues. We really appreciate hearing from the public and appreciate everybody

2525
05:23:27,470 --> 05:23:33,310
adjusting their timing so that we could fit in all the speakers today. And Councillor

2526
05:23:33,310 --> 05:23:37,410
Jans, you selected this item, so I will go to you for questions first.

2527
05:23:37,950 --> 05:23:39,270
Administration or this speaker?

2528
05:23:39,270 --> 05:23:42,350
because administration, we're at administration's feet.

2529
05:23:42,510 --> 05:23:43,790
We're asking questions to administration.

2530
05:23:44,090 --> 05:23:46,710
Also, just give them one minute to get to their seats

2531
05:23:46,710 --> 05:23:48,310
before you start your questions.

2532
05:23:48,510 --> 05:23:51,030
But yes, we are on questions of administration.

2533
05:23:52,330 --> 05:23:54,110
Now, on this report.

2534
05:24:04,640 --> 05:24:07,280
To be honest, I'm happy to defer.

2535
05:24:07,640 --> 05:24:09,020
I don't have any questions right now.

2536
05:24:09,140 --> 05:24:10,720
I'm really interested in the subsequent motions.

2537
05:24:16,130 --> 05:24:18,230
Okay, and for the record, I'm not going to entertain

2538
05:24:18,230 --> 05:24:22,050
as the chair any subsequent motions until we get through the agenda.

2539
05:24:22,050 --> 05:24:31,670
So, there can be a primary motion on this item, and then we will switch to, then we will go to the next items on our agenda because there are

2540
05:24:31,670 --> 05:24:34,450
speakers that have impatiently waiting on those items as well.

2541
05:24:34,790 --> 05:24:41,190
And when we finish our agenda, we can either come back to subsequent, or they can be made as notices of motion, so that we can actually get through today.

2542
05:24:41,790 --> 05:24:48,570
So I just want to be clear that there won't be any subsequent debates until the end of the agenda, so we can get through.

2543
05:24:48,570 --> 05:24:52,610
So, I will go to Councilor Salvador then.

2544
05:24:53,630 --> 05:24:56,610
And just to the chair, I do have a motion.

2545
05:24:56,870 --> 05:24:57,790
Do you want to get your questions first?

2546
05:24:57,890 --> 05:24:58,630
Or can I put that on the board?

2547
05:24:58,810 --> 05:25:00,610
It's committees, so you can put the motion on the floor

2548
05:25:00,610 --> 05:25:03,830
and then people can ask general questions about the report

2549
05:25:03,830 --> 05:25:06,450
or questions about your motion.

2550
05:25:06,770 --> 05:25:08,010
Please go ahead.

2551
05:25:08,370 --> 05:25:10,510
I'll move the administration, continue implementation

2552
05:25:10,510 --> 05:25:12,950
of the Act of Transportation Network Expansion Program

2553
05:25:12,950 --> 05:25:14,970
in accordance with the previously approved scope

2554
05:25:14,970 --> 05:25:19,410
of Capital Profile CM-20-03300.

2555
05:25:20,930 --> 05:25:25,270
Point two, immediately advanced procurement for all tender ready routes as identified in

2556
05:25:25,270 --> 05:25:34,690
attachment three of the August 2026-26-2026 infrastructure services report IS-0368 and maximize

2557
05:25:34,690 --> 05:25:39,690
remaining construction season, including advancing partial and accelerated construction, and

2558
05:25:40,330 --> 05:25:53,910
where construction cannot proceed in 2026 complete all design work and ensure procurement readiness in advance of the 2027 construction season scheduling construction for the earliest feasible opportunity in 2026.

2559
05:25:57,940 --> 05:26:00,100
Thank you would you like to introduce your motion please.

2560
05:26:00,560 --> 05:26:01,700
Yes, thank you.

2561
05:26:04,020 --> 05:26:05,980
First, thank you to all the speakers for being here today.

2562
05:26:06,200 --> 05:26:10,640
I really appreciate hearing everyone's perspectives and I just want to speak about the intention behind this motion.

2563
05:26:10,640 --> 05:26:19,480
So the intention here is to continue building out our bike network as planned and to not move forward with administration's proposal, the intention is to stay the course.

2564
05:26:20,220 --> 05:26:26,460
It provides direction to immediately advance procurement and construction of all routes that are tender ready.

2565
05:26:27,140 --> 05:26:34,320
And I've included language around including advancing partial construction so that we can go as late as the season will allow.

2566
05:26:34,320 --> 05:26:42,960
In instances where construction can't proceed this season, the motion also ensures that we're ready to go with the design work and

2567
05:26:42,960 --> 05:26:50,680
tenders so that we can get those out at the earliest possible opportunity in the spring so that we're not facing late season tenders.

2568
05:26:53,980 --> 05:27:02,380
Yeah, you know, I'm reflecting on how we, how we got to this point and just reflecting around how I think that

2569
05:27:02,380 --> 05:27:06,520
Council has been clear and it's desire to continue implementing our bike plan.

2570
05:27:07,520 --> 05:27:10,020
I'm feeling frustrated that we're here today.

2571
05:27:10,740 --> 05:27:13,160
As we have consistently defended the bill though,

2572
05:27:13,220 --> 05:27:15,820
to our active transportation network at multiple intervals,

2573
05:27:16,600 --> 05:27:18,280
and I do feel that the proposed approach

2574
05:27:18,280 --> 05:27:20,840
from administration represents a significant departure

2575
05:27:21,380 --> 05:27:22,960
from previous council direction.

2576
05:27:23,680 --> 05:27:26,960
Of course there are localized questions or challenges that can come up,

2577
05:27:27,080 --> 05:27:29,460
but the proposed approach in front of us would effectively

2578
05:27:30,120 --> 05:27:36,260
install out numerous critical projects that have been in the works for years, including many

2579
05:27:36,260 --> 05:27:41,520
critical routes in Wardmateri that I know community members have been waiting for for a very

2580
05:27:41,520 --> 05:27:50,020
long time. Y'all have more to say I'm running out of time here but again I want to ensure that

2581
05:27:50,020 --> 05:27:54,100
we are maintaining our momentum on building out a complete and connected network for all the

2582
05:27:54,100 --> 05:27:58,820
reasons that we've heard from our speakers today and more very happy to take questions on this.

2583
05:27:58,820 --> 05:28:04,040
I will have a subsequent that speaks about bringing back funding options to ensure that this work is well supported going forward.

2584
05:28:07,050 --> 05:28:08,170
Thank you.

2585
05:28:09,470 --> 05:28:15,530
I do have questions on the motion on the floor, so I'll take my turn.

2586
05:28:16,590 --> 05:28:17,450
I just took administration.

2587
05:28:17,710 --> 05:28:29,770
If you look at this motion and point number one to be clear, that means that what you are being directed to do is continue with the acceleration as the option was

2588
05:28:29,770 --> 05:28:35,730
to debate that budget, which means limited engagement, it means no modifying of those plans,

2589
05:28:35,810 --> 05:28:40,610
and it means going forth with what you've already recommended. Do you understand it the same way?

2590
05:28:42,490 --> 05:28:47,010
Yes, we do. And to the to the to the moveers at your attention.

2591
05:28:48,130 --> 05:28:58,410
Because. And if I go looking for it. Yeah, and just to add to that. So in in reference to point one,

2592
05:28:58,410 --> 05:29:04,310
my expectation would be if we look at the attachment three basically all of the routes that are

2593
05:29:04,310 --> 05:29:09,740
listed in there would be would be included and that's also touched on it will it too too.

2594
05:29:10,890 --> 05:29:15,430
Yeah I'm kind of just going through them because I think there's been

2595
05:29:17,960 --> 05:29:19,100
while there's been

2596
05:29:19,100 --> 05:29:27,560
collective council direction I I worry that there's been individual projects where there's been

2597
05:29:27,560 --> 05:29:32,880
pressure to change or adapt or divert from that council direction, which like I understand

2598
05:29:32,880 --> 05:29:37,320
the frustration for why we're here, but I also understand how we got here.

2599
05:29:37,880 --> 05:29:45,120
So I want to make it clear that whatever decision we come forward for today that administration

2600
05:29:45,120 --> 05:29:54,580
is empowered to do that and then also say no to any individual counselors or project modifications.

2601
05:29:54,580 --> 05:29:56,580
That is my expectation and intention.

2602
05:29:57,740 --> 05:29:58,000
Okay.

2603
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:01,020
I

2604
05:30:03,070 --> 05:30:13,670
am a bit concerned about point two. It's the one that makes me the most concerned, just having worked for administration and understanding how long tendering can take.

2605
05:30:15,770 --> 05:30:29,250
Is this doable? Is point two doable? And what would that look like? Because if you put a detender, don't you have to give a certain amount of time by legislation for receiving her proposals?

2606
05:30:29,250 --> 05:30:34,510
Correct, Councilor Rutherford, and just as a bit of context to this, the approach that

2607
05:30:34,510 --> 05:30:39,310
administration has taken to the tenoring of this work has been bundling it, recognizing

2608
05:30:39,310 --> 05:30:46,550
that the scope of work in independent locations is not large enough to generate a strong

2609
05:30:46,550 --> 05:30:47,290
market response.

2610
05:30:47,630 --> 05:30:50,770
We generally bundle locations in two packages.

2611
05:30:51,930 --> 05:30:56,390
So in this year we had four bundles planned with the work that was planned with locations.

2612
05:30:57,070 --> 05:31:03,510
The last bundle that remains is the one that is listed in the attachment three with a number

2613
05:31:03,510 --> 05:31:09,070
of those locations and that one whether we tendered it today, tomorrow three months from now.

2614
05:31:09,350 --> 05:31:14,450
Like effectively what we're at is a 2027 construction schedule and the reason for that.

2615
05:31:14,770 --> 05:31:17,590
Okay, I'm sorry I'm out of time but I will come back from other outages.

2616
05:31:17,710 --> 05:31:19,270
We were very diligent with our speakers.

2617
05:31:19,310 --> 05:31:22,450
I want to be diligent with us as well including myself.

2618
05:31:23,150 --> 05:31:24,350
Councillor Stevenson.

2619
05:31:26,200 --> 05:31:32,480
You think you may be just a bit of context and say four bundles that were stated for this year.

2620
05:31:32,660 --> 05:31:34,600
Won't it be other three go to tender?

2621
05:31:36,600 --> 05:31:38,280
Just a second here.

2622
05:31:38,660 --> 05:31:42,220
I don't know that I have all the dates exactly.

2623
05:31:46,860 --> 05:31:49,980
Bundle one and two were probably around May, June.

2624
05:31:50,820 --> 05:31:58,280
Bundle three was just awarded in August and are sorry, bundle four.

2625
05:31:58,280 --> 05:32:01,140
in August, and Bundle 3 is the one that still remains.

2626
05:32:03,200 --> 05:32:08,380
But I'm just wondering, um, again, recognizing that construction season, why do not

2627
05:32:08,380 --> 05:32:10,840
offer that still move into it?

2628
05:32:11,540 --> 05:32:15,920
And I think this is in recognition of the work that we're trying to do to accelerate this,

2629
05:32:16,060 --> 05:32:18,880
and it's we're basically taking a just-in-time approach.

2630
05:32:19,520 --> 05:32:23,600
So effectively, as soon as the tender plans are ready, we package it, we bundle it,

2631
05:32:23,600 --> 05:32:25,700
put it on the street as quickly as we possibly can.

2632
05:32:25,700 --> 05:32:32,580
And that's been the process since this funding program was approved by Council.

2633
05:32:33,320 --> 05:32:38,400
We've been effectively kind of working through this in real time or just in time delivery.

2634
05:32:38,920 --> 05:32:41,480
And as soon as the plans are done, we put it on the street as soon as we can.

2635
05:32:42,000 --> 05:32:46,300
Most of the tenders up until this point have generally been a little bit later in the year.

2636
05:32:46,880 --> 05:32:48,740
And I'm talking like Mayor June.

2637
05:32:50,160 --> 05:32:55,780
Unfortunately, this year we came a little bit as the scope of the work has been described

2638
05:32:55,780 --> 05:32:58,760
as becoming a little bit more detailed and more tricky.

2639
05:32:59,720 --> 05:33:02,460
Some of the details have taken a little bit longer to finalize.

2640
05:33:07,770 --> 05:33:10,730
When both of the designs complete for adults,

2641
05:33:13,590 --> 05:33:15,930
I believe I don't have a date in mind,

2642
05:33:16,170 --> 05:33:17,910
but probably sometimes mid-July.

2643
05:33:22,090 --> 05:33:26,430
I think the question is a sort of why, well, I guess it's a way there, but I think the question is a sort of why.

2644
05:33:26,430 --> 05:33:28,570
Well, if it's a way there, then the lack of consideration for that.

2645
05:33:29,210 --> 05:33:31,090
But maybe I'll just move on.

2646
05:33:31,450 --> 05:33:32,630
So you just need to speak to the chair.

2647
05:33:32,770 --> 05:33:36,070
Do you want questions on the motion or will we ask the questions of the report?

2648
05:33:36,430 --> 05:33:41,710
You can ask questions on either the motion or broader on the report.

2649
05:33:41,830 --> 05:33:42,590
Please go ahead.

2650
05:33:43,550 --> 05:33:44,510
Okay, thank you.

2651
05:33:44,510 --> 05:33:49,630
And you know, just a few of the data that is included in the report, which is curious

2652
05:33:49,630 --> 05:33:52,110
of how it is that it's a little bit more than that I've met.

2653
05:33:53,970 --> 05:33:57,090
And the origins of captures over the watershed numbers.

2654
05:33:59,590 --> 05:34:03,190
And it sees a policy on this aspect.

2655
05:34:03,630 --> 05:34:05,610
So I'm just going to include some of the watershed numbers.

2656
05:34:12,150 --> 05:34:16,590
We look at the number of waters in the increased watershed over the past five years.

2657
05:34:19,190 --> 05:34:23,010
Councillor Stevenson. It was not included in the report.

2658
05:34:25,020 --> 05:34:26,420
Thank you.

2659
05:34:28,920 --> 05:34:30,140
Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

2660
05:34:30,500 --> 05:34:37,620
Councillor Clark. Great. Thank you. Just for clarity's sake. When I'm looking at attachment 3.

2661
05:34:38,400 --> 05:34:41,960
For tender ready, do you want to let me know exactly?

2662
05:34:42,640 --> 05:34:50,020
Yeah, I was going to go through this as well. So my expectation is it would be someone

2663
05:34:50,020 --> 05:35:01,320
page, page two, 64 Street, 79 Street, 85 Street, 88 Avenue, 89, 93rd, those roots that are listed

2664
05:35:04,500 --> 05:35:08,460
as originally scheduled for construction in 2026, while they can be tendered, installation

2665
05:35:09,300 --> 05:35:15,120
2026 no longer viable, lazy's and tender. Those are the ones that I understand from administration

2666
05:35:15,120 --> 05:35:18,560
are ready to go on tendering.

2667
05:35:21,280 --> 05:35:24,660
And just with the feedback that we just got from Jason there.

2668
05:35:25,000 --> 05:35:27,340
So if this construction is highly unlikely this year,

2669
05:35:27,540 --> 05:35:30,260
you still want to proceed with this motion regardless.

2670
05:35:31,800 --> 05:35:34,760
Yeah, and I'll have questions around what that can look like.

2671
05:35:35,860 --> 05:35:37,540
And I understand that this is late season.

2672
05:35:38,000 --> 05:35:42,940
I also understand that the infrastructure is adaptable.

2673
05:35:43,240 --> 05:35:46,580
Is there a path forward where we are at least

2674
05:35:46,580 --> 05:35:52,580
getting going. On a number of these roots, I think about even in past years, there's a number

2675
05:35:52,580 --> 05:35:58,540
of roots that I know of where we didn't quite finish construction within the season and

2676
05:35:58,540 --> 05:36:02,060
the roots weren't quite open, but we were at least in there getting it done and they were

2677
05:36:02,060 --> 05:36:04,700
ready to go for the spring. So that would be my intention.

2678
05:36:07,720 --> 05:36:12,140
Yeah, I kind of worry about like the construction project being started and not being finished

2679
05:36:12,140 --> 05:36:16,480
in the disruptions I would have in the community which then might have to be changed anyways

2680
05:36:16,480 --> 05:36:18,540
is in 2020, 7, right?

2681
05:36:19,920 --> 05:36:21,360
The sort of might just thoughts on that,

2682
05:36:21,560 --> 05:36:22,380
I guess not really a question.

2683
05:36:23,060 --> 05:36:23,420
On it.

2684
05:36:23,720 --> 05:36:24,760
But my other question just goes,

2685
05:36:25,020 --> 05:36:27,420
because there's a whole bunch of design work as well.

2686
05:36:28,160 --> 05:36:30,400
So are you thinking that this design work

2687
05:36:30,400 --> 05:36:34,360
is going to be as stated already into our pipeline

2688
05:36:34,360 --> 05:36:36,960
or are we going to, is there also another version

2689
05:36:37,480 --> 05:36:39,600
potentially with some changes coming as well?

2690
05:36:39,680 --> 05:36:41,100
Would it be the two different kind of design works?

2691
05:36:41,240 --> 05:36:41,760
How do you know?

2692
05:36:41,760 --> 05:36:49,740
So my intention with .3 is, so the roots that are not tender ready, that would be pushed

2693
05:36:49,740 --> 05:36:54,940
into 2027, that are either, you know, not feasible to tender or need additional design

2694
05:36:54,940 --> 05:37:00,640
work to get ready for tender. Those are the ones I'm referencing. So in the report in attachment

2695
05:37:00,640 --> 05:37:07,600
3, that would be the section of 2027 and then the other roots that are listed on the final page

2696
05:37:07,600 --> 05:37:08,780
attach with three.

2697
05:37:11,690 --> 05:37:14,810
Okay, and that's from the recommendation, man. I mean, some of that

2698
05:37:14,810 --> 05:37:19,050
desire that kind of goes into what the recommendation would have had already, right?

2699
05:37:19,210 --> 05:37:23,450
But now you want to know what specific this is. But the important clarity is that I am not

2700
05:37:23,450 --> 05:37:27,130
comfortable moving forward with the proposed approach that administration has put forward,

2701
05:37:28,130 --> 05:37:29,970
that provides greater weight to retention.

2702
05:37:30,000 --> 05:37:37,780
Question of parking, and travel lanes. Like that approach fundamentally shifts what council is previously directed.

2703
05:37:41,510 --> 05:37:42,510
Thank you.

2704
05:37:43,450 --> 05:37:45,870
Yep. Councillor Salvatore.

2705
05:37:47,730 --> 05:37:54,790
Yeah, I just wanted to loop back to the questions. Councillor Stevenson was asking around bundle 3.

2706
05:37:55,830 --> 05:38:01,510
And just so I'm being crystal clear as well. I'm correct in understanding that those are the roots listed in

2707
05:38:02,510 --> 05:38:10,230
attachment three page two. Correct. Okay. Okay. And those were complete. It sounds like

2708
05:38:10,230 --> 05:38:15,550
mid-midjuly-ish. Yeah, I don't have it exact dates, apologies, but it was about the time that

2709
05:38:16,350 --> 05:38:22,610
this report plan was coming together and this report for council. So were those ones was

2710
05:38:22,610 --> 05:38:30,530
bundle three, we held off on that in anticipation. No, no, no, no. Yeah, okay. I'll just

2711
05:38:30,530 --> 05:38:31,570
that jump in Council of Salvador.

2712
05:38:32,230 --> 05:38:35,730
So for clarity, what happened was Bundle 4,

2713
05:38:36,030 --> 05:38:37,670
included the 50th Street Project.

2714
05:38:38,230 --> 05:38:41,170
And so following Council's motion to change the design

2715
05:38:41,170 --> 05:38:45,390
on 50th Street, we had to go back urgently to Bundle 4

2716
05:38:45,390 --> 05:38:48,710
to modify the contracts and to ensure

2717
05:38:48,710 --> 05:38:51,350
that the contractor could move forward with that Bundle

2718
05:38:51,350 --> 05:38:54,270
that had been already tendered.

2719
05:38:54,530 --> 05:38:57,650
And so we shift our focus there to ensure

2720
05:38:57,650 --> 05:38:58,970
that that Bundle can move forward.

2721
05:38:58,970 --> 05:39:01,730
and then by the time we got back to bundle three,

2722
05:39:02,490 --> 05:39:03,950
we are where we are at this time.

2723
05:39:04,130 --> 05:39:06,150
And so for clarity, we did not pause any work.

2724
05:39:06,370 --> 05:39:09,290
We just had some resources that needed to be realigned

2725
05:39:09,290 --> 05:39:11,810
to ensure that we continue to advance the work.

2726
05:39:12,730 --> 05:39:17,370
So the mid-July date for bundle three,

2727
05:39:17,890 --> 05:39:20,110
like I'm still understanding why that wasn't out.

2728
05:39:20,470 --> 05:39:25,330
So the designs were ready, but the tender package was not.

2729
05:39:26,250 --> 05:39:28,750
So there's just another step after the designs

2730
05:39:28,750 --> 05:39:35,030
completed to put the package together and then that was what was delayed by the fact that

2731
05:39:35,030 --> 05:39:41,510
we had to go back to the tender package for to clarify with the contractor how we were moving

2732
05:39:41,510 --> 05:39:45,470
forward with 50th Street. Okay. The apologies I didn't get the answer. It comes with a reference

2733
05:39:45,470 --> 05:39:50,670
question on that but effectively there are a number of steps required to bring this back to market

2734
05:39:50,670 --> 05:39:56,830
to get solicit pricing. So generally one step is getting the drawings ready then you have to assemble

2735
05:39:56,830 --> 05:40:01,530
the bundles and as Pascal just described, we're shifting locations back and forth based on

2736
05:40:01,530 --> 05:40:06,650
what's ready and then from that we have to create specific tender documents that then go out

2737
05:40:06,650 --> 05:40:12,950
to market on various kind of procurement channels and then so that can sometimes take two to three

2738
05:40:12,950 --> 05:40:19,850
weeks for that step to happen. Then it has to have go on the active online procurement channels

2739
05:40:19,850 --> 05:40:25,130
that we have with APC, Merx, different public purchasing connections. That has to fall

2740
05:40:25,130 --> 05:40:27,910
trade agreements which can take four or five weeks as well.

2741
05:40:28,210 --> 05:40:31,830
Then we have to award it, that can take another one or two weeks after we've evaluated

2742
05:40:31,830 --> 05:40:32,410
the bids.

2743
05:40:32,910 --> 05:40:37,270
Then we have to schedule a pre-construction meeting, which is again another two to three weeks,

2744
05:40:38,070 --> 05:40:41,610
then we get our scheduled from the contractor, and that's why sometimes it can take two

2745
05:40:41,610 --> 05:40:47,030
to three months from the start of a tender for when you can might anticipate construction

2746
05:40:47,030 --> 05:40:47,550
to even start.

2747
05:40:47,570 --> 05:40:51,590
Okay, I'll met at the time, but I'll come back for questions around partial construction.

2748
05:40:53,390 --> 05:40:54,850
Thank you, Councillor Salvador.

2749
05:40:57,470 --> 05:41:02,810
I think also something that we have to address is I think that there's been a lot of

2750
05:41:02,810 --> 05:41:09,670
staff resources of the active transportation team in responding to emails and responding

2751
05:41:09,670 --> 05:41:14,530
to three one one inquiries and responding to Councillor inquiries.

2752
05:41:14,890 --> 05:41:20,030
That has also, instead of being able to sometimes do, is it fair to say that that's also taken away.

2753
05:41:20,030 --> 05:41:26,050
you're only so many people. And so when you have your capacity going to these things, it can't go to other things.

2754
05:41:26,590 --> 05:41:29,930
Is that a factor in my over-generalizing?

2755
05:41:30,310 --> 05:41:32,250
It has definitely been a factor counts throughout the year.

2756
05:41:32,370 --> 05:41:37,050
We've seen increases year over year of 500 percent in queries received.

2757
05:41:37,750 --> 05:41:48,350
I think in 2026 to date we are at over 600 in queries on active transportation program alone.

2758
05:41:48,350 --> 05:41:51,850
And so, and we are dedicated to responding to

2759
05:41:51,850 --> 05:41:54,430
mintoniums on their questions and their inquiries.

2760
05:41:54,650 --> 05:41:55,630
And so that takes a lot of time.

2761
05:41:55,870 --> 05:41:59,390
And yes, we do have a team that specializes in this work.

2762
05:41:59,770 --> 05:42:02,970
And so, it's important that be them communicating

2763
05:42:02,970 --> 05:42:04,630
with them and toniums around their questions.

2764
05:42:04,850 --> 05:42:06,650
And so, does that just take a lot of resources?

2765
05:42:07,650 --> 05:42:10,490
And Sarah, are you feeling really, like, insightful again?

2766
05:42:10,670 --> 05:42:12,930
It's like, the question of why are we here?

2767
05:42:13,190 --> 05:42:16,130
But this kind of feedback, some of the context changing,

2768
05:42:16,130 --> 05:42:19,530
And for my understanding,

2769
05:42:21,610 --> 05:42:26,830
you just wanted to make sure that the council was ready to

2770
05:42:26,830 --> 05:42:30,470
withstand that storm, that you could sort of see brewing in some spaces.

2771
05:42:31,410 --> 05:42:31,630
Yes.

2772
05:42:32,090 --> 05:42:38,690
And so I think I see myself, my background, I have a master's in public administration,

2773
05:42:39,150 --> 05:42:40,090
I'm a public servant.

2774
05:42:40,850 --> 05:42:44,970
My job is to provide my best advice to council and take direction from council.

2775
05:42:44,970 --> 05:42:58,790
But there are times when information starts to come and we are astute enough to say the context is changing and we want to bring it back to council to confirm the direction of council and make sure that we're providing our best advice.

2776
05:42:59,350 --> 05:43:02,370
We of course will always implement the direction of council.

2777
05:43:03,210 --> 05:43:12,520
Absolutely. And what about the grovener one? Because why is that one on the redesign list?

2778
05:43:13,080 --> 05:43:20,160
When I understood that one was already tendered and based on what's in this motion, you should not be redesigning grovener.

2779
05:43:20,420 --> 05:43:22,080
I want to be clear on that.

2780
05:43:24,060 --> 05:43:25,820
So if you have a question,

2781
05:43:26,460 --> 05:43:27,880
Grovener is not getting redesigned.

2782
05:43:28,080 --> 05:43:29,120
It is designed.

2783
05:43:29,360 --> 05:43:32,540
It was supposed, we will go back to that design that is incorrect.

2784
05:43:32,720 --> 05:43:35,240
We're not going to go do redo design work on those ones.

2785
05:43:36,360 --> 05:43:42,420
And to be clear, the design for Grovener is one of our least invasive treatments within a neighborhood

2786
05:43:42,420 --> 05:43:42,920
that still can be done.

2787
05:43:42,920 --> 05:43:45,060
But we did stop construction on that one.

2788
05:43:46,180 --> 05:43:48,500
And to do some modifications.

2789
05:43:49,280 --> 05:43:51,360
And so I want to be clear on what we're deciding today,

2790
05:43:51,620 --> 05:43:53,240
we will just go back to that original design.

2791
05:43:54,240 --> 05:43:55,280
Yes, okay.

2792
05:43:56,360 --> 05:43:57,180
Councillor Stevenson?

2793
05:44:00,840 --> 05:44:01,140
Thank you.

2794
05:44:01,280 --> 05:44:05,400
I guess I just wanted to just

2795
05:44:07,450 --> 05:44:10,210
understand a little bit more, again, you know, recognizing

2796
05:44:10,870 --> 05:44:15,450
that there was a shift in some of the pattern of feedback that the administration is

2797
05:44:15,450 --> 05:44:15,950
receiving.

2798
05:44:16,950 --> 05:44:22,330
Just wondering why that was the only metric that the administration considered.

2799
05:44:23,770 --> 05:44:33,550
Again, I think we heard a range of receptors from swikers to the English level of playgays is fully reflected in what the public is suggesting.

2800
05:44:33,850 --> 05:44:35,650
And then again, just a few of the ridership members.

2801
05:44:37,270 --> 05:44:39,370
Just one of my most recent thinking about that.

2802
05:44:40,850 --> 05:44:42,710
People voting with their wheels, so we speak.

2803
05:44:53,910 --> 05:44:57,850
I don't think it's only the negative feedback or the feedback from the public that we got.

2804
05:44:58,030 --> 05:44:59,970
It's come from multiple areas. I think there was an issue.

2805
05:45:00,340 --> 05:45:09,440
Not only from the public reaction to some of the implementations that we have, the provincial reaction to that, and our own council reaction.

2806
05:45:09,760 --> 05:45:14,440
So I think there's threefold we're taking into account on some of the challenges that we put in.

2807
05:45:14,500 --> 05:45:23,060
I think when you experience, I mean, I think the initial phases of the implementation plan took into account that we're going to do the easy things first.

2808
05:45:23,060 --> 05:45:25,180
we knew the harder things were coming next.

2809
05:45:26,520 --> 05:45:31,180
And just like any project you go through, you know, re-evaluating that throughout the project

2810
05:45:31,180 --> 05:45:36,140
does make sense in some cases and we felt that this is one of those times that we should

2811
05:45:36,140 --> 05:45:37,080
check in.

2812
05:45:37,120 --> 05:45:43,060
I think in a lot of it was really built on on three different avenues of feedback, but the

2813
05:45:43,060 --> 05:45:48,140
experience that we have when we started building tangible things in community and the impact

2814
05:45:48,140 --> 05:45:51,500
that that has to clarify that that direction is is still valid.

2815
05:45:53,240 --> 05:45:57,160
Yeah, and I think I think the check-in point is very valid and the main point, I don't

2816
05:45:57,160 --> 05:46:00,580
feel that we have all the information that we need to be checking in.

2817
05:46:00,920 --> 05:46:05,460
We don't have information on, I mean, I haven't seen them in a survey.

2818
05:46:05,660 --> 05:46:09,230
I can be the, and maybe there is, I don't know, called being reference in there.

2819
05:46:10,760 --> 05:46:16,600
But again, we know as organizations, I think we know, you know, work that it is to

2820
05:46:16,600 --> 05:46:22,000
people who are unhappy with something a little more likely to reach out. It just concerns me that

2821
05:46:22,000 --> 05:46:27,840
the leader in the bus report is focused on about one mechanism, rather than an opportunity

2822
05:46:27,840 --> 05:46:33,100
to have a little bit. This is an important task. This is a touch point in the

2823
05:46:33,100 --> 05:46:34,940
administration of a shift in the action.

2824
05:46:39,960 --> 05:46:42,820
Is there a question there at California Stevenson?

2825
05:46:43,120 --> 05:46:47,100
Yeah, so again, the question remains is, you know, why wasn't that data included?

2826
05:46:47,100 --> 05:46:48,100
I

2827
05:46:52,200 --> 05:46:59,400
think we've been very clear that administration is fully supporting the implementation of the bike plan as part of City plan and

2828
05:47:00,920 --> 05:47:06,380
that we relate to the information that was provided in those documents.

2829
05:47:08,950 --> 05:47:10,890
Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

2830
05:47:11,710 --> 05:47:12,130
Councillor Salvador.

2831
05:47:12,850 --> 05:47:13,850
Yeah, thank you.

2832
05:47:14,310 --> 05:47:19,670
I just wanted to make sure there's a shared understanding around what

2833
05:47:19,670 --> 05:47:29,370
What bullet to would mean around maximizing remaining construction season and advancing partial or accelerated construction?

2834
05:47:30,030 --> 05:47:33,010
How does administration interpret that piece?

2835
05:47:33,350 --> 05:47:35,130
And what would that look like on the ground?

2836
05:47:37,190 --> 05:47:40,650
Effectively we would take immediate steps to tender the work.

2837
05:47:41,170 --> 05:47:45,630
And I think as I explained in your previous line of questioning,

2838
05:47:45,630 --> 05:47:51,190
Based on the timelines provided, I just want to be clear about the expectations of what this would mean on site.

2839
05:47:51,670 --> 05:47:58,870
I think there's a reasonably low chance, very low chance that this would translate to work in the field this year.

2840
05:47:59,770 --> 05:48:07,850
And if I can add, you know, report we have on coming to committee right after this is on the impact of a very challenging construction season.

2841
05:48:07,850 --> 05:48:24,030
We've had unprecedented amounts of rain and we know that many of our road construction contractors who are typically the ones that do this work are scrambling to deliver the projects that they've already been awarded this year and I think you will hear some industry speak to that.

2842
05:48:26,980 --> 05:48:33,960
Okay, and so I can definitely appreciate that piece with

2843
05:48:36,900 --> 05:48:41,420
the adaptable nature of some of the infrastructure going in.

2844
05:48:41,600 --> 05:48:51,720
And I'm thinking I'll use the Bonnie do an example where we're talking about putting in traffic calming measures in some cases

2845
05:48:51,720 --> 05:48:58,960
or modal filters, not necessarily like extensive work

2846
05:48:58,960 --> 05:49:00,180
where we're tearing up concrete.

2847
05:49:02,760 --> 05:49:05,440
Why, like you still see that as a barrier,

2848
05:49:05,580 --> 05:49:06,820
that seems like it's fairly,

2849
05:49:07,800 --> 05:49:09,500
you know, just to add a little bit of detail

2850
05:49:09,500 --> 05:49:11,120
and narrative to this.

2851
05:49:11,140 --> 05:49:12,680
One of the things we've struggled with actually

2852
05:49:12,680 --> 05:49:15,620
has been supply chain for these precast concrete curves.

2853
05:49:17,140 --> 05:49:20,580
It's not a product that the industry normally carries.

2854
05:49:20,580 --> 05:49:25,160
We've actually run into issues and delays on other projects, Victoria Park Road being one,

2855
05:49:26,060 --> 05:49:28,600
which was supposed to happen last year and got deferred to this year.

2856
05:49:29,460 --> 05:49:33,700
So just as an example, those are products that generally we don't supply

2857
05:49:35,280 --> 05:49:38,060
or procure on a very often basis.

2858
05:49:38,760 --> 05:49:43,780
And this active mode's program is created like a very high demand for that product.

2859
05:49:43,920 --> 05:49:45,840
So it's actually been something difficult to source.

2860
05:49:45,840 --> 05:49:55,540
So, as an example, that is one of the things that looks simple in nature, but there's a lot of steps in between to be able to secure that supply chain upfront.

2861
05:50:01,930 --> 05:50:02,670
What about tough curbs?

2862
05:50:04,840 --> 05:50:06,500
Sorry, I have a tough curb product.

2863
05:50:07,780 --> 05:50:10,040
I'd have to get back to you on that one in particular.

2864
05:50:10,040 --> 05:50:12,200
I don't have the specifics on that one.

2865
05:50:18,470 --> 05:50:19,430
Councillor Stevenson.

2866
05:50:21,350 --> 05:50:27,250
Let me just put it on for students and I do need for it and I have a council for convenience,

2867
05:50:27,570 --> 05:50:31,020
policy and documents.

2868
05:50:36,220 --> 05:50:38,060
Again, that's a very detailed question.

2869
05:50:38,200 --> 05:50:39,140
So I wasn't prepared to that.

2870
05:50:39,240 --> 05:50:45,300
Generally we do have the means to be able to cancel projects and I might have to lean on legal services to support me.

2871
05:50:45,380 --> 05:50:51,000
But it does expose us to some risk and those would be assessed probably on a case by case basis.

2872
05:50:51,000 --> 05:50:56,060
So, most of our construction contracts don't have a termination for convenience class.

2873
05:50:56,600 --> 05:50:58,960
It's an exception where we would.

2874
05:50:59,640 --> 05:51:02,700
More than any of the patients have included a chance of a convenience class.

2875
05:51:03,360 --> 05:51:09,920
I think the biggest implication, it takes time and effort and money for companies to bid on our projects.

2876
05:51:10,520 --> 05:51:16,580
We want to make sure that we have as much competition in the environment so that we can get good value for people in Edmonton.

2877
05:51:16,580 --> 05:51:21,600
And so if we put in too many clauses like Council for convenience and we start using them,

2878
05:51:21,680 --> 05:51:25,680
we will have probably less people bidding on our projects, which will drive up price.

2879
05:51:27,040 --> 05:51:33,140
Okay, I'm just thinking back, so two questions I guess.

2880
05:51:33,400 --> 05:51:42,860
I do take administration's, I think the touch point is really valuable.

2881
05:51:42,860 --> 05:51:45,240
And I think that there are things that we've all learned.

2882
05:51:45,540 --> 05:51:47,220
So in the first phase of this very long,

2883
05:51:47,760 --> 05:51:52,500
that could be an opportunity for me, or shifting our practices.

2884
05:51:53,420 --> 05:51:57,800
So for example, my own experience, I see a lot of challenges

2885
05:51:57,800 --> 05:52:00,700
caused by really, very actual bike lanes,

2886
05:52:00,760 --> 05:52:02,520
versus by the actual bike lanes.

2887
05:52:03,180 --> 05:52:04,680
So many administration mechanisms

2888
05:52:04,680 --> 05:52:07,600
that are opportunity to sort of have that type of deep

2889
05:52:08,500 --> 05:52:10,140
if it's a bit of a final incentive.

2890
05:52:10,360 --> 05:52:11,940
And this is the largest active transportation

2891
05:52:11,940 --> 05:52:13,620
and network expansion.

2892
05:52:13,940 --> 05:52:17,120
I think it's also, let me see a little bit of a little for example.

2893
05:52:18,060 --> 05:52:21,120
What do you think thoughts about how to have a let type of conversation?

2894
05:52:26,840 --> 05:52:29,960
Councillor Stevenson, from our perspective, the review of the committee.

2895
05:52:30,000 --> 05:52:43,180
Please, please, design and construction standards provided that exact opportunity to, especially to industry to, we consulted with advocacy groups, related to transportation of all types.

2896
05:52:43,860 --> 05:52:50,360
And so the updated complete streets policy and standards reflect those lessons learned.

2897
05:52:50,360 --> 05:53:01,160
And the approach moving forward is to have it live so that, sorry, feedback can always be provided.

2898
05:53:01,540 --> 05:53:02,900
It's accessible on our website.

2899
05:53:03,580 --> 05:53:06,180
There's a page for that.

2900
05:53:06,500 --> 05:53:08,560
When is the update?

2901
05:53:09,280 --> 05:53:10,020
Can we wait?

2902
05:53:13,380 --> 05:53:14,340
December, last year.

2903
05:53:14,580 --> 05:53:16,060
December of 2025.

2904
05:53:16,740 --> 05:53:19,440
The policy was approved earlier in 2025.

2905
05:53:19,440 --> 05:53:22,540
I believe it was June or August.

2906
05:53:24,840 --> 05:53:25,360
Okay.

2907
05:53:26,900 --> 05:53:27,940
That's correct.

2908
05:53:28,840 --> 05:53:29,000
Okay.

2909
05:53:29,520 --> 05:53:29,960
Welcome back.

2910
05:53:30,140 --> 05:53:30,720
Thank you.

2911
05:53:31,180 --> 05:53:31,400
Okay.

2912
05:53:31,500 --> 05:53:34,300
And I do want to, we've been really generous on rounds.

2913
05:53:34,460 --> 05:53:41,600
And when we were talking about the agenda management, I said we would kind of, you

2914
05:53:41,600 --> 05:53:49,540
know, but I do want to caution to just really stay on point to the report and

2915
05:53:49,540 --> 05:53:56,900
or the motion on the floor right now, not saying that anybody has not, but I just like as we go into progressive rounds,

2916
05:53:57,540 --> 05:54:04,180
really stay focused on what you need to answer questions in the report or on the motion.

2917
05:54:05,540 --> 05:54:07,420
Mayor Nack, please go ahead.

2918
05:54:08,920 --> 05:54:10,280
Thank you very much.

2919
05:54:10,620 --> 05:54:11,560
And sorry, I can't do that in person.

2920
05:54:11,880 --> 05:54:14,120
I'm just under to the meeting that I'll minister.

2921
05:54:14,120 --> 05:54:18,880
So I want to understand, I think the one thing I'm maybe confused about is what I can

2922
05:54:18,880 --> 05:54:21,980
confirm with the administration is.

2923
05:54:23,760 --> 05:54:31,380
So independent of this motion, if it didn't go ahead by the motion, you would still be going

2924
05:54:31,380 --> 05:54:37,660
forward with direction as previously approved, you would have the ability as is within your

2925
05:54:37,660 --> 05:54:43,580
delegated authority to make troops, but not like change the roadway that you would put something

2926
05:54:43,580 --> 05:54:44,760
on is that correct?

2927
05:54:50,610 --> 05:54:55,610
Mayor Nackwee, follow the bike plan when it comes to the selection of the corridor.

2928
05:54:56,470 --> 05:55:03,930
The design of the active transportation route itself is within the administration's

2929
05:55:03,930 --> 05:55:05,050
delegated authority.

2930
05:55:05,730 --> 05:55:06,150
Correct.

2931
05:55:06,490 --> 05:55:11,970
So what I'm saying is that if there was no motion today, if this was taken for information,

2932
05:55:12,570 --> 05:55:17,290
you would continue to build, you would have within your delegated authority the ability to

2933
05:55:17,290 --> 05:55:24,130
week design, but you wouldn't be changing from road x to road y. You might go from a unidirectional

2934
05:55:24,130 --> 05:55:27,950
bike lane to a bi-directional bike lane. That's within your purpose. Is that correct?

2935
05:55:30,700 --> 05:55:33,760
Yeah. Yes. I think that's a representation.

2936
05:55:34,680 --> 05:55:39,720
Yes. Then this is a part of, I want to get clarity on, because I think I heard in an answer

2937
05:55:39,720 --> 05:55:47,700
to another question. Does this motion take a way that delegated authority to make tweaks to

2938
05:55:47,700 --> 05:55:50,800
existing approved reps that are going forward?

2939
05:55:52,920 --> 05:56:00,160
I think it creates a question of whether we're allowed to make what you're calling

2940
05:56:00,160 --> 05:56:04,460
tweaks as we advance moving forward.

2941
05:56:05,060 --> 05:56:09,300
Okay, so the way that's worded and sorry, I just don't have a timer in front of me.

2942
05:56:09,660 --> 05:56:16,560
So the way it's worded if this path is as worded, there is now uncertainty about your

2943
05:56:16,560 --> 05:56:21,040
ability to to weep on an existing approved route.

2944
05:56:26,070 --> 05:56:27,870
Yes, it does.

2945
05:56:27,990 --> 05:56:31,630
Okay, I probably have a time I'll need to come back on and out the move

2946
05:56:31,630 --> 05:56:34,930
with that with their intent because I doubt that the concerns need

2947
05:56:34,930 --> 05:56:35,990
that particular feature.

2948
05:56:36,090 --> 05:56:38,230
You have 30 seconds left may or not.

2949
05:56:39,050 --> 05:56:40,730
To the move with that your intent?

2950
05:56:41,650 --> 05:56:45,490
So when I read Bullet 3 and the way that I'm conceiving of this

2951
05:56:45,490 --> 05:56:50,130
is complete all design work to ensure the procurement is ready to go.

2952
05:56:50,130 --> 05:56:56,750
my understanding is that if there are small adjustments or tweaks that are within delegated

2953
05:56:56,750 --> 05:57:03,510
authority, that that can still happen, but not re-designing to the point that we are taking

2954
05:57:03,510 --> 05:57:06,670
roots off of the program.

2955
05:57:07,490 --> 05:57:11,170
Okay, there's confusion between two parties, so I might need to come back for another round,

2956
05:57:11,210 --> 05:57:12,550
but I'll keep those in.

2957
05:57:12,550 --> 05:57:12,730
Thanks.

2958
05:57:13,630 --> 05:57:15,670
Yeah, thank you.

2959
05:57:16,890 --> 05:57:20,950
Mayor Nack, did you just want to go again, since you were just on your first round and

2960
05:57:20,950 --> 05:57:23,270
everybody else is on several other rounds?

2961
05:57:24,490 --> 05:57:25,730
Yeah, that's great.

2962
05:57:25,850 --> 05:57:26,570
I appreciate it.

2963
05:57:26,790 --> 05:57:32,750
And I guess I just, I need to, so I've heard the Lovers intent, which is to not remove

2964
05:57:32,750 --> 05:57:37,170
that what I would define, it's currently existing delegated authority

2965
05:57:37,170 --> 05:58:01,170
administration. So you're seeing the wording potentially gives you that uncertainty. So I just need to figure out how do we make sure that's clear because I am not looking to remove your delegated avoiding. I want to continue to proceed as is with the ability for you to adjust that to you in a way within any once. So is it just.

2966
05:58:01,750 --> 05:58:06,210
I guess then that the only difference, not exactly motion at all, I mean, do we need a motion?

2967
05:58:07,730 --> 05:58:10,490
Because that's what I hear you're going to do even if we didn't have a motion today.

2968
05:58:16,070 --> 05:58:21,910
Yes, I think, you know, what we've put forward is either status quo.

2969
05:58:22,090 --> 05:58:31,390
We continue operating implementing the program or the modified approach that we clarified today with the new attachment five

2970
05:58:31,390 --> 05:58:36,050
was to come back with more details on the trade-offs in Q1 of 2027.

2971
05:58:37,910 --> 05:58:47,050
So I think we would, all of the motions kind of point back to continuing to deliver on the active transportation implementation.

2972
05:58:48,990 --> 05:58:50,590
So, okay, maybe that's what they're going to say.

2973
05:58:51,470 --> 05:58:55,130
If I didn't accept your attachments or this motion,

2974
05:58:56,170 --> 05:59:00,690
you're going to go forward to build out those, those, all of the infrastructures,

2975
05:59:00,690 --> 05:59:04,870
currently identified, we're going to have, within your delegated authority, the ability

2976
05:59:04,870 --> 05:59:09,810
to make some minor adjustments. That's how it would proceed. And then you wouldn't

2977
05:59:09,810 --> 05:59:14,850
come back to us for the trade-offs, because you would be able to, as part of your ongoing

2978
05:59:14,850 --> 05:59:21,910
design work, make that call. If you think there's a unidirectional series of bike lanes that's currently

2979
05:59:21,910 --> 05:59:27,110
in place and going bi-directional makes more sense, which I actually, you know, I think

2980
05:59:27,110 --> 05:59:29,070
as a city to sort of build to that standard,

2981
05:59:29,910 --> 05:59:32,410
you could then do that if we didn't have any motion,

2982
05:59:32,670 --> 05:59:33,850
you would just go do that,

2983
05:59:33,850 --> 05:59:36,690
that the part of the tender could be going in the spring

2984
05:59:37,970 --> 05:59:39,630
or as soon as possible.

2985
05:59:42,830 --> 05:59:45,350
The answer to that is yes, yes.

2986
05:59:45,430 --> 05:59:47,510
We would be able to proceed.

2987
05:59:48,290 --> 05:59:50,410
We would make the changes ourselves

2988
05:59:50,410 --> 05:59:52,330
for the ones that need sense,

2989
05:59:52,650 --> 05:59:56,570
and that would be not coming back if we don't accept anything.

2990
05:59:57,990 --> 05:59:58,010
OK.

2991
05:59:59,370 --> 05:59:59,970
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean.

2992
06:00:04,300 --> 06:00:14,280
Do you still have 20 seconds? 30 seconds? Not enough to ask a question and have an answer to help. I'll come back around and start another round. That's the appropriate budget.

2993
06:00:15,200 --> 06:00:17,800
Thank you, Mayor Nack. Councillor Jones.

2994
06:00:18,460 --> 06:00:23,000
Thank you. I think part of the tension here seems to be in some cases like the 50th Street debate.

2995
06:00:23,760 --> 06:00:29,780
admin recommends what I'll call it like gold standard recommendations that are the maximum safety.

2996
06:00:30,000 --> 06:00:35,480
I think in other cases, we still have paint on the roads, we have sharing lanes, such as

2997
06:00:35,480 --> 06:00:39,340
so there seems to be a piece here. What I hear admins saying is we've reviewed the complete

2998
06:00:39,340 --> 06:00:47,140
streets guideline documents that now there can be more flexibility. But then some of the

2999
06:00:47,140 --> 06:00:52,120
responses today gave me, I'm just not sure where we're out on that. I know Councillor Stevenson

3000
06:00:52,120 --> 06:00:56,880
had shared with me she's working on something about saying what do we have to do to basically

3001
06:00:56,880 --> 06:01:03,500
say bi-directional lanes are the standard because they allow for a mix of cycle track,

3002
06:01:03,760 --> 06:01:09,000
they allow for some parking or drop-offs or loading, and they also allow for others.

3003
06:01:09,360 --> 06:01:13,320
Like I believe I heard from admin, we can do bi-directional that's in the complete straight

3004
06:01:13,320 --> 06:01:18,940
guidelines as of December 2025, but then I see other designs that don't have that, so I'm

3005
06:01:20,540 --> 06:01:24,320
I think the consistent inconsistency is what's throwing me here.

3006
06:01:25,220 --> 06:01:33,160
I also go back to, you know, we're talking about a roadway right away that's only so big in a mature neighborhood.

3007
06:01:33,940 --> 06:01:41,280
And so when we put something in, typically that means something that's existing there has to come out.

3008
06:01:41,820 --> 06:01:48,100
And so what we're trying to have a conversation with Council about is what is the most important thing to put in there?

3009
06:01:48,100 --> 06:01:50,760
And what are you okay with taking out?

3010
06:01:51,160 --> 06:01:55,240
By directional lanes, absolutely are part of our tool kit

3011
06:01:55,240 --> 06:01:56,640
and something that we evaluate.

3012
06:01:57,240 --> 06:01:59,520
But they still take road way.

3013
06:01:59,780 --> 06:02:02,820
And they don't necessarily, in all cases,

3014
06:02:03,040 --> 06:02:05,700
allow still for parking or allow for,

3015
06:02:05,760 --> 06:02:07,860
it depends on how wide that road is.

3016
06:02:07,980 --> 06:02:10,320
And so the problem that we're all trying to solve,

3017
06:02:10,760 --> 06:02:12,700
and we have professionals who are doing

3018
06:02:12,700 --> 06:02:17,300
professional work on this, is how do we make it safe

3019
06:02:17,300 --> 06:02:22,800
all the uses of the road. And when there isn't enough room, what is the thing that we're

3020
06:02:22,800 --> 06:02:28,920
okay to take out? And that's really the question that we're trying to have. And we're

3021
06:02:28,920 --> 06:02:34,480
understanding that we move forward with a lot of bike lanes. We put up the slide, we've

3022
06:02:34,480 --> 06:02:43,160
delivered a number of them. But what going forward, the choices are trickier. And so we are trying

3023
06:02:43,160 --> 06:02:47,620
to evaluate that. And so where there's an opportunity, like 50th where there is a

3024
06:02:47,620 --> 06:02:52,040
boulevard that we can kind of get into that, that's more expensive treatment, but

3025
06:02:52,040 --> 06:02:58,820
we can use that. There is road right away there. What happens when we run out of road right

3026
06:02:58,820 --> 06:03:04,760
right away? I think is sort of the conversation that we're trying to say, Council, we're

3027
06:03:04,760 --> 06:03:09,360
getting into some of these points where the trade-offs are hard. What should we prioritize?

3028
06:03:12,330 --> 06:03:14,250
Okay, I'm not a time.

3029
06:03:15,350 --> 06:03:18,950
Hi, I offered the mayor the same courtesy, so since that was your first round,

3030
06:03:19,170 --> 06:03:20,610
did you want to go again?

3031
06:03:20,890 --> 06:03:21,870
Well, do you want to think on that?

3032
06:03:21,870 --> 06:03:26,730
I guess I guess where I'm very confused right now is maybe to the city manager.

3033
06:03:28,670 --> 06:03:30,290
We have a report. The report was incorrect.

3034
06:03:30,490 --> 06:03:36,090
It's been corrected. We heard the opening here, but I don't understand what direction

3035
06:03:36,090 --> 06:03:38,210
and Edmund is looking for right now.

3036
06:03:38,850 --> 06:03:44,730
Like that Congress to the previous talk about what, you know,

3037
06:03:44,850 --> 06:03:46,410
we need to know from Council what the trade-offs are.

3038
06:03:46,530 --> 06:03:48,470
We kind of have that in the complete straight guidelines.

3039
06:03:48,710 --> 06:03:50,330
We have lots of places where we take up parking.

3040
06:03:50,350 --> 06:03:54,850
We have lots of places where we'll not do a double sided bike lane.

3041
06:03:54,970 --> 06:03:56,250
We'll do a bi-directional bike lane.

3042
06:03:56,330 --> 06:03:58,750
I guess what direction is needed right now?

3043
06:03:59,350 --> 06:04:01,650
I think for us, we're seeking the ability,

3044
06:04:01,990 --> 06:04:03,610
like we've got an opportunity right now

3045
06:04:03,610 --> 06:04:05,370
because we're in between construction seasons.

3046
06:04:05,370 --> 06:04:10,850
So we have some stuff that we can put out later or put out now that's going to build next year.

3047
06:04:11,190 --> 06:04:15,750
Do we still, are we still comfortable with the approach that we're in right now and getting confirmation?

3048
06:04:16,210 --> 06:04:24,390
I think they're your motion says yes we are and then we just implement what we have designed today and put it in.

3049
06:04:24,590 --> 06:04:35,050
I think we have an opportunity right now to look at balance if we want to look at some balance on some of those corridors that where we might have some space to look at a different design.

3050
06:04:35,050 --> 06:04:40,610
principle that would that would give some more balance back. But isn't that the complete

3051
06:04:40,610 --> 06:04:42,410
streets guidelines that we passed in December?

3052
06:04:46,480 --> 06:04:49,920
The guidelines provide for what our objectives

3053
06:04:49,920 --> 06:04:59,620
are, what are the how we can implement them. But they do not provide context specific direction.

3054
06:04:59,920 --> 06:05:04,580
And so each of the corridors needs to be designed for the context that it has. What's the road

3055
06:05:04,580 --> 06:05:10,080
what's the use? Does it have transit? Does it have schools? And so those are all things that are very

3056
06:05:10,080 --> 06:05:17,880
context sensitive and so when we talk about the treat-offs, the standards are providing a guideline,

3057
06:05:18,260 --> 06:05:22,860
but again, they need to be applied and they're applied by professionals and so the guidance we're

3058
06:05:22,860 --> 06:05:27,080
seeking is, what do we tell those professionals? How do we decide right now? Like we have a road and

3059
06:05:27,080 --> 06:05:30,480
there's no room for parking on it. We just don't put parking on it. We have a road and it's coming

3060
06:05:30,480 --> 06:05:34,680
up to a corner, we just don't put parking on the corner. It's a blind spot. We already have

3061
06:05:34,680 --> 06:05:44,720
a triage of like pedestrian safety car safety parking. We already know a lot of this, I guess.

3062
06:05:45,080 --> 06:05:50,480
So the subsequent motion that Councillor Stevenson sent to me was standardized by directional

3063
06:05:50,480 --> 06:05:54,540
lanes as a preferred on street facility with clear parameters when alternatives would be considered.

3064
06:05:54,780 --> 06:05:59,480
That sounds very explicit. And revising options to allow the stacking of minimum and constrained

3065
06:05:59,480 --> 06:06:03,540
standards on existing states with reference to design domain concept design

3066
06:06:03,540 --> 06:06:07,240
exception process and the role of community values in informing decision making

3067
06:06:07,240 --> 06:06:10,860
with something like just explicit like that and come back to infrastructure committee.

3068
06:06:11,280 --> 06:06:17,040
I would encourage, you know, us to be very careful about getting into the realm of design.

3069
06:06:17,460 --> 06:06:20,940
But I feel like we're here today because we're being asked to make a design decision.

3070
06:06:22,980 --> 06:06:27,540
I think we're asking about what are the trade-offs if we're in a corridor.

3071
06:06:28,120 --> 06:06:30,060
Are we comfortable removing parking?

3072
06:06:30,060 --> 06:06:31,540
But we've done this hard.

3073
06:06:32,080 --> 06:06:33,420
Thank you.

3074
06:06:34,400 --> 06:06:35,640
I'll take my turn now.

3075
06:06:35,800 --> 06:06:38,200
I think we just have to have a bit of context setting.

3076
06:06:39,600 --> 06:06:40,880
Because when I read the report,

3077
06:06:41,540 --> 06:06:42,600
there's been a lot of criticism,

3078
06:06:43,000 --> 06:06:44,240
but I actually think the report overall.

3079
06:06:44,700 --> 06:06:46,320
I just want to say it was really good.

3080
06:06:46,460 --> 06:06:47,740
And I actually thought it was really helpful

3081
06:06:47,740 --> 06:06:50,200
in understanding as not an engineer,

3082
06:06:50,900 --> 06:06:54,060
some of the constraints that engineers face with.

3083
06:06:54,100 --> 06:06:55,140
You know, the loss of trees,

3084
06:06:55,360 --> 06:06:56,120
the loss of parking,

3085
06:06:56,120 --> 06:06:59,580
in the loss of traffic, the safety of the pedestrians,

3086
06:06:59,880 --> 06:07:01,040
the safety of the bikers,

3087
06:07:01,700 --> 06:07:03,740
like there's a lot, like it was really eye-opening

3088
06:07:03,740 --> 06:07:05,100
to me for that.

3089
06:07:05,460 --> 06:07:06,960
But at the end of the day,

3090
06:07:07,500 --> 06:07:10,680
any of that direction like Councilor Jans is alluding to,

3091
06:07:11,000 --> 06:07:12,940
and we can debate whether at the next budget

3092
06:07:12,940 --> 06:07:14,060
if we want to do that.

3093
06:07:14,080 --> 06:07:17,800
But the scope of the project that is in front of us today

3094
06:07:17,800 --> 06:07:24,200
was for rapid deployment and not to be doing your ideal,

3095
06:07:24,200 --> 06:07:29,960
like what you would do if you had road renewal is not the same as what you are doing now on

3096
06:07:30,000 --> 06:07:38,300
Any of these roads, because that is not the direction that you were given, nor do we have the budget, or council did not approve that budget to do that work. Correct.

3097
06:07:40,300 --> 06:07:48,360
So you've been trying to work within a hundred million dollar envelope to do as many as fast as possible. So that means some that are more complicated.

3098
06:07:49,020 --> 06:07:56,360
We'll have one design, and you know that we know maybe they have more usage, or more safety risks. We'll have a higher level of design.

3099
06:07:56,360 --> 06:08:00,240
And others might be less designed because they're not as used.

3100
06:08:00,920 --> 06:08:05,640
It's not as much of a risk than you're, but you are in, you are in good faith, Wayne, all

3101
06:08:05,640 --> 06:08:13,740
of those options to get to that, to that within that scope and cap of $100 million that you

3102
06:08:13,740 --> 06:08:14,140
were given.

3103
06:08:15,460 --> 06:08:22,500
And I think what we're saying we would bring back to Council is are there opportunities that

3104
06:08:22,500 --> 06:08:30,220
were not evaluated in the current evaluations because of the direction of the program to do the rapid

3105
06:08:30,220 --> 06:08:35,980
acceleration and the not permanent infrastructure. So we'll continue to look at the list.

3106
06:08:36,220 --> 06:08:42,100
We have considered multiple options in all of them, but are there options that were ruled out

3107
06:08:42,100 --> 06:08:46,440
initially because they didn't fit the parameters of the program? And that's what we were very

3108
06:08:46,440 --> 06:08:48,640
to check in quarter one, 20 percent.

3109
06:08:49,100 --> 06:08:50,960
Because the administrations in a lose-lews situation,

3110
06:08:51,100 --> 06:08:52,180
sometimes from what I see.

3111
06:08:52,740 --> 06:08:54,320
And again, I'm so empathetic because I used to be

3112
06:08:54,320 --> 06:08:58,880
an administration of like, if you put more money

3113
06:08:58,880 --> 06:09:01,340
into a smaller amount of things,

3114
06:09:01,460 --> 06:09:02,920
you're going to get the critique from counselors

3115
06:09:03,420 --> 06:09:05,640
and the public about why you haven't done more

3116
06:09:05,640 --> 06:09:06,620
with the $100 million.

3117
06:09:07,500 --> 06:09:12,540
If you do like not ideal planning or not bi-directional,

3118
06:09:12,780 --> 06:09:14,120
then you get critiques about why you're not,

3119
06:09:14,120 --> 06:09:21,040
Is it like is it fair to say that that's sort of some of the attention to that we've been experiencing in this 100% yeah

3120
06:09:21,040 --> 06:09:26,560
Okay, that's I'll leave it there for now. Councillor Saladour. Yeah, thank you

3121
06:09:26,560 --> 06:09:28,940
I just wanted to come back to

3122
06:09:28,940 --> 06:09:30,960
attachment three

3123
06:09:30,960 --> 06:09:32,040
just for the

3124
06:09:32,040 --> 06:09:32,760
26

3125
06:09:33,600 --> 06:09:36,460
Roots and just the status of a number of them

3126
06:09:37,280 --> 06:09:39,020
So the ones where

3127
06:09:39,020 --> 06:09:47,120
tender has been awarded, but construction has not yet started. Like I think there's

3128
06:09:47,120 --> 06:09:52,780
38, like 84th Avenue, 92A, 93th Street, those particular ones.

3129
06:09:55,100 --> 06:09:56,620
I guess for those

3130
06:09:56,620 --> 06:10:02,500
there's a little note at the end saying that essentially for the for the

3131
06:10:02,500 --> 06:10:06,440
direction pending this council conversation council report would be needed on

3132
06:10:07,120 --> 06:10:11,000
with this motion, those are also green, let like go.

3133
06:10:12,960 --> 06:10:14,100
We have a contractor on board.

3134
06:10:14,440 --> 06:10:18,920
We've had a pre-construction meeting, like those are those, that's the bundle that

3135
06:10:18,920 --> 06:10:23,780
pre-gated the other bundle of three that I've mentioned, so that's actually, so we're in

3136
06:10:23,780 --> 06:10:24,380
better shape there.

3137
06:10:24,380 --> 06:10:25,880
We have a contractor who's part-paving.

3138
06:10:26,440 --> 06:10:28,620
Okay, so those, okay, thank you.

3139
06:10:29,120 --> 06:10:34,620
And then I alluded to a subsequent around resourcing as well.

3140
06:10:35,700 --> 06:10:43,620
And I just want to understand, I guess, given the list of projects that's included as part of these bundles,

3141
06:10:44,380 --> 06:10:50,940
if there is a need for additional resourcing to complete this work, will you come to us at budget with that ask?

3142
06:10:52,540 --> 06:10:56,160
How, like, if there's a message like a top-up, I'll say, that's needed.

3143
06:10:56,980 --> 06:11:02,080
Yeah, I think our goal is to obviously implement the entire program.

3144
06:11:02,600 --> 06:11:05,940
So we would look at the designs that we have, the money that we have left over.

3145
06:11:05,940 --> 06:11:09,660
We would come back to council if we can't continue the program.

3146
06:11:10,460 --> 06:11:12,620
Or we've run out of money to finish the program.

3147
06:11:12,760 --> 06:11:16,460
We back at council to have a conversation about how we prioritize the rest of that.

3148
06:11:16,480 --> 06:11:20,160
Okay, so there's an opportunity for a top of for existing program.

3149
06:11:20,160 --> 06:11:25,540
program and then there's more like a future focus conversation around the next phase of

3150
06:11:25,540 --> 06:11:29,060
like plant implementation beyond this. Yeah, I just don't know if that will happen. I don't

3151
06:11:29,060 --> 06:11:33,720
feel no all that information by the time we get to this year budget or if it'll be sometime

3152
06:11:33,720 --> 06:11:45,410
in this year. So it might be next year budget. So sorry if there's like I we may not know

3153
06:11:45,410 --> 06:11:49,610
by the time we do our four year budget. If this is if we have enough to kind of last it

3154
06:11:49,610 --> 06:11:53,650
we're looking at Q1 of 2027 to have that understanding of where we are

3155
06:11:53,650 --> 06:11:56,670
pretended to be project. Obviously if we're going to redesign some stuff we

3156
06:11:56,670 --> 06:11:59,350
could have do that through the next few months and then we'll have a better idea

3157
06:11:59,350 --> 06:12:03,610
where we stand on what's left in the project. Yeah we we anticipate at the end of

3158
06:12:03,610 --> 06:12:07,310
this year we will have 20 million dollars left in the program which will allow us to

3159
06:12:07,310 --> 06:12:12,270
move forward into the next phase. We're going to look at the roots and then if there

3160
06:12:12,270 --> 06:12:15,250
are roots that require a different treatment that would be more expensive or

3161
06:12:15,250 --> 06:12:19,190
something, we can bring that to Council through South's Quinn S.T.B.A.

3162
06:12:19,290 --> 06:12:19,850
Okay.

3163
06:12:19,870 --> 06:12:20,430
Great.

3164
06:12:20,690 --> 06:12:22,710
Thank you.

3165
06:12:23,350 --> 06:12:23,930
Thank you.

3166
06:12:24,210 --> 06:12:25,670
Can Mayor NAC?

3167
06:12:28,580 --> 06:12:29,140
Okay.

3168
06:12:29,580 --> 06:12:29,740
Sorry.

3169
06:12:30,200 --> 06:12:32,580
Again, I'm trying to make sure I understand all this.

3170
06:12:32,780 --> 06:12:34,620
I'm just to the last set of questions.

3171
06:12:35,380 --> 06:12:38,980
There's a bundle of projects ready to go pending the completion of this meeting.

3172
06:12:39,960 --> 06:12:45,060
If you did not have any different direction, those would still be going forward.

3173
06:12:45,440 --> 06:12:45,680
Correct.

3174
06:12:46,300 --> 06:12:46,560
Correct.

3175
06:12:49,880 --> 06:12:55,980
potentially one of the reasons for this notion is the other projects that are not yet, like immediately

3176
06:12:55,980 --> 06:12:57,960
kind of ready or close to.

3177
06:12:58,300 --> 06:13:04,960
But what I've heard into the advances is that even with emotion, there is absolutely zero way

3178
06:13:04,960 --> 06:13:08,160
some of those remaining projects can actually move forward.

3179
06:13:08,600 --> 06:13:09,280
Is that correct?

3180
06:13:09,800 --> 06:13:10,520
This year.

3181
06:13:10,520 --> 06:13:10,780
This year.

3182
06:13:10,920 --> 06:13:12,160
That is also correct.

3183
06:13:13,840 --> 06:13:16,900
So is there anything that you,

3184
06:13:16,900 --> 06:13:21,380
So just trying out the hypothetical, if this motion would have passed, is there anything

3185
06:13:21,380 --> 06:13:27,280
that you would have been doing that you could do this year, that you weren't going

3186
06:13:27,280 --> 06:13:29,600
to for some reason into next year?

3187
06:13:30,600 --> 06:13:31,580
Mayor Nack, we would...

3188
06:13:31,580 --> 06:13:32,720
I'm just trying to get it.

3189
06:13:33,020 --> 06:13:33,840
Yeah, what's that?

3190
06:13:33,980 --> 06:13:37,160
Is there really a need for this for me to answer?

3191
06:13:37,800 --> 06:13:44,640
I mean, we are always trying to deliver, so if, you know, we would look at everything that

3192
06:13:44,640 --> 06:13:45,080
we can.

3193
06:13:45,080 --> 06:13:49,880
And we would see if there's shakes of trees and see if we could find anything we can do this

3194
06:13:49,880 --> 06:13:50,680
fall.

3195
06:13:51,920 --> 06:13:58,960
But at this point, based on the procurement and the focus on delivering our projects that

3196
06:13:58,960 --> 06:14:02,080
are already under construction, it is very, very unlikely.

3197
06:14:06,400 --> 06:14:07,140
There's more.

3198
06:14:07,660 --> 06:14:08,900
I'm going to have to move up.

3199
06:14:09,540 --> 06:14:10,380
I'm here on that.

3200
06:14:13,230 --> 06:14:18,770
What I is recognizing, it sounds like they can't do it because I hear the motions in

3201
06:14:21,390 --> 06:14:28,370
I would love that if possible because I want to finish it, I'm hearing that might not be the case.

3202
06:14:28,810 --> 06:14:32,970
You would say that you're not looking to take away their delegated authority to tweak.

3203
06:14:33,970 --> 06:14:38,490
So I guess I'm just at the point of, I'm not sure I see the purpose of a motion,

3204
06:14:39,690 --> 06:14:44,470
which is going to accomplish the exact signal come as if this is just received information.

3205
06:14:44,470 --> 06:14:45,570
I

3206
06:14:48,000 --> 06:14:55,320
can appreciate that. One of the primary reasons that I feel that this motion is necessary is to provide

3207
06:14:56,180 --> 06:14:58,440
absolute clarity around

3208
06:15:00,530 --> 06:15:30,100
The intention of how this program is rolling out. I was surprised to see the amount of weight given to parking and lanes in the proposed approach that was brought forward in this report and I think it's important to be able to provide clarity that council is still comfortable advancing under the previously approved scope of this project.

3209
06:15:30,100 --> 06:15:34,200
for the party. I'm going to run out of time. I'm sorry. I'll come back.

3210
06:15:34,360 --> 06:15:36,180
Okay, no, let's go. I'll come back for a moment.

3211
06:15:39,510 --> 06:15:40,310
Councilor Stevenson.

3212
06:15:42,270 --> 06:15:48,470
Thank you. I think, I think, I think all I'm struggling is,

3213
06:15:48,650 --> 06:15:51,870
again, I think I need to switch, I can't, I think there's just something we can't,

3214
06:15:51,970 --> 06:15:57,150
I shouldn't let's see what I'm trying to do. Maybe health administration isn't trying to put in.

3215
06:15:57,150 --> 06:15:59,470
So we have to see back or put it back.

3216
06:16:01,370 --> 06:16:05,330
But, so, okay, so just,

3217
06:16:05,470 --> 06:16:08,470
we get a new particular constraint policy.

3218
06:16:09,410 --> 06:16:11,610
We got lines and lines and lines,

3219
06:16:11,610 --> 06:16:12,650
so that we are clearly,

3220
06:16:12,750 --> 06:16:15,690
but they have, I can see the different implications for how

3221
06:16:15,690 --> 06:16:18,370
have this program and maybe the real

3222
06:16:18,370 --> 06:16:20,010
another program that we're going to get.

3223
06:16:21,130 --> 06:16:23,310
And so there's a explicit statement in the

3224
06:16:23,310 --> 06:16:25,670
complete straight design settings that doesn't need

3225
06:16:25,670 --> 06:16:28,390
actual equities are preferred.

3226
06:16:30,570 --> 06:16:33,310
For me, this is a source of a lot of potential, but I've seen

3227
06:16:33,310 --> 06:16:39,630
community and I think have a considerable operational impact that we haven't grappled with,

3228
06:16:39,690 --> 06:16:46,710
so that it's both twice the cost, for me to know many actual equities, and so by actual equities.

3229
06:16:47,510 --> 06:16:55,830
situation, but how do we, what's in it, hopefully, for Calcate, but back on each on this?

3230
06:16:58,180 --> 06:17:04,200
So, Councillor Stevenson, I think the first thing is that we do not agree that the problem

3231
06:17:04,200 --> 06:17:10,140
is the unidirectional versus bidirectional. In the sense that, as Sarah's mentioning,

3232
06:17:10,300 --> 06:17:15,920
we explore all types of design for every corridor, and ultimately if the bidirectional

3233
06:17:15,920 --> 06:17:21,400
offers an ability to provide a better active transportation infrastructure.

3234
06:17:21,760 --> 06:17:29,020
We absolutely do it and in case of a point that we have designs for bi-directionals in

3235
06:17:29,020 --> 06:17:29,840
this program.

3236
06:17:31,240 --> 06:17:39,480
So I think the importance of the bad ones, there's a preference based on safety data and

3237
06:17:39,480 --> 06:17:41,320
informed engineering designs.

3238
06:17:42,880 --> 06:17:48,320
And again, I've been just from the research I've done come as such as I've had, like that's large.

3239
06:17:50,120 --> 06:17:52,200
Like Bible actually is still safe.

3240
06:17:52,520 --> 06:17:55,400
And I just feel like these are the considerations that I've built into.

3241
06:17:56,040 --> 06:17:57,220
And I think that's a challenge.

3242
06:17:57,320 --> 06:17:57,940
But it's true.

3243
06:17:58,140 --> 06:18:00,960
Kind of a little bit of a whole option is equally.

3244
06:18:01,600 --> 06:18:03,320
But that's not what I see in the guidance.

3245
06:18:03,440 --> 06:18:05,600
I see a preference for that.

3246
06:18:05,780 --> 06:18:08,060
For example, the application is there.

3247
06:18:08,880 --> 06:18:15,480
I think that that necessarily has a higher degree of trade-off than other approaches.

3248
06:18:16,400 --> 06:18:20,460
Yeah, and I've, I'm sorry to interrupt you can pause Councillor Stevenson's time.

3249
06:18:20,660 --> 06:18:25,540
I think we're getting into potential subsequent and complete streets to conversation.

3250
06:18:25,700 --> 06:18:28,420
Nothing in this report talks about complete streets.

3251
06:18:29,640 --> 06:18:35,880
So I just want to, like again, be very mindful of the scope of our questioning to the report itself

3252
06:18:35,880 --> 06:18:38,240
and the motion on the floor.

3253
06:18:40,140 --> 06:18:44,880
I appreciate that on this level, given that it is reference because there is a checking

3254
06:18:44,880 --> 06:18:50,440
point that there is suggestion, like it is the leading example of the parking and the waves.

3255
06:18:51,340 --> 06:18:54,880
I like to understand for the administration how they came to that conclusion that those were

3256
06:18:55,480 --> 06:18:59,920
where the top priorities of council and I can come back to get that answer.

3257
06:19:05,040 --> 06:19:05,580
Mayor Nack?

3258
06:19:09,000 --> 06:19:20,500
That's it. I think it's a little bit of an offset. So I guess, you know, because I put some commentary from the provincial side about this need to civil engineers not so short years.

3259
06:19:21,140 --> 06:19:36,240
And so I guess I wanted to stick to the current approach you take. It's civil engineers go through and they look at a road. They come up with their best design. They prioritize safety. I think that that is the direction that it's been exploited. So you see, give it that right.

3260
06:19:37,460 --> 06:19:39,160
That is correct.

3261
06:19:40,940 --> 06:19:42,660
So it's nothing else changing today.

3262
06:19:42,920 --> 06:19:47,480
Because I heard from the mover there was a worry about in the report if you

3263
06:19:47,480 --> 06:19:48,500
have with your suggestion.

3264
06:19:49,260 --> 06:19:52,080
It may be an unfair phrase.

3265
06:19:52,300 --> 06:19:53,820
I just don't know a little better way to say it.

3266
06:19:54,360 --> 06:19:56,600
Because it's quite a deep prior time.

3267
06:19:57,320 --> 06:20:02,600
We would lower the safety priority a little bit to potentially increase it somewhere

3268
06:20:02,600 --> 06:20:04,020
or something else.

3269
06:20:04,020 --> 06:20:10,020
I know that's not exactly the exact description, I'm just not sure how I was to describe it.

3270
06:20:10,940 --> 06:20:11,480
Mayor, if I can do that.

3271
06:20:11,480 --> 06:20:13,120
Because you're just that, yeah.

3272
06:20:13,680 --> 06:20:16,820
We would not, we would not lower a safety standard.

3273
06:20:18,000 --> 06:20:24,500
What we put in the modified approach was that based on the feedback received from community,

3274
06:20:24,500 --> 06:20:32,800
from council members, is that we understood that the parking and travel lanes needed to be

3275
06:20:32,800 --> 06:20:36,280
considered more fulsome.

3276
06:20:36,340 --> 06:20:37,200
Let us say.

3277
06:20:37,680 --> 06:20:42,160
And that we would have looked at the alternative designs, but we would never compromise on safety.

3278
06:20:43,160 --> 06:21:05,880
So there's the key, so I think really what the key, so no motion goes forward, you're going to consider that additional piece to it using your engineering expertise and to create the most, you know, a very safe solution.

3279
06:21:05,880 --> 06:21:11,040
But I think the most of it's safety, you never have anything anywhere except that kind of

3280
06:21:11,040 --> 06:21:12,500
sidewalk or something like that.

3281
06:21:12,520 --> 06:21:14,260
Do you want to try or type-safe?

3282
06:21:14,460 --> 06:21:14,860
Did you go to Google?

3283
06:21:15,040 --> 06:21:16,900
Perhaps you're going to take that into account.

3284
06:21:17,180 --> 06:21:18,980
You're just going to try or type-safe.

3285
06:21:19,120 --> 06:21:21,960
That might mean something to the interaction.

3286
06:21:22,260 --> 06:21:22,980
It's a five direction.

3287
06:21:23,160 --> 06:21:25,260
That might mean something else.

3288
06:21:25,800 --> 06:21:27,660
But safety still becomes scared.

3289
06:21:28,280 --> 06:21:30,600
That's part of your requirements.

3290
06:21:31,900 --> 06:21:32,160
Yes.

3291
06:21:32,160 --> 06:21:39,340
And, and Miranaclet me also say all of our designs follow engineering standards and are ultimately

3292
06:21:39,340 --> 06:21:44,480
stamped by a professional engineer, occasionally by our staff, but frequently by consulting

3293
06:21:44,480 --> 06:21:50,460
engineers. And they take, you know, an oath and have a professional designation that requires

3294
06:21:50,460 --> 06:21:58,880
them to consider certain elements. And, and their stamp is has a legal protection with that.

3295
06:22:00,040 --> 06:22:05,000
Exactly. Yeah, that's really important to note. I don't know if that's been communicated to the problem.

3296
06:22:05,280 --> 06:22:07,920
So how are we going to check it up on the work?

3297
06:22:09,840 --> 06:22:13,840
OK, I think that answered all of my questions. Thanks.

3298
06:22:17,240 --> 06:22:23,780
Thank you. I would like to move to delete bullet 2, please, from this motion.

3299
06:22:30,820 --> 06:22:34,280
As an amendment to the main motion, we will load that on the screen.

3300
06:22:39,320 --> 06:22:47,880
And just to introduce, I think, I heard some tension. I understand the intent of the mover with wanting to give a crystal clear direction.

3301
06:22:48,620 --> 06:22:59,320
I also understand real, like, we don't, even if we say something, it doesn't come magically to fruition if the time and resources don't allow it.

3302
06:22:59,320 --> 06:23:07,260
And so where we are, as unfortunate as where we are now, it's where we are now, I don't like the idea of partially starting and finishing construction.

3303
06:23:07,420 --> 06:23:14,020
I think that's actually going to contribute negatively to people's reception of the bike plan implementation.

3304
06:23:14,940 --> 06:23:27,020
I think that it is going to end up costing us more money because contractors are going to have to think about gearing up for this year and next.

3305
06:23:27,020 --> 06:23:28,220
And I just think there's a lot of uncertainty.

3306
06:23:29,560 --> 06:23:32,860
So I understand that I'm in support the other two.

3307
06:23:33,080 --> 06:23:34,160
I can't support this one.

3308
06:23:34,160 --> 06:23:36,280
So I thought I would debate it.

3309
06:23:37,830 --> 06:23:38,690
That's it.

3310
06:23:38,710 --> 06:23:39,930
Councillor Stevenson.

3311
06:23:45,430 --> 06:23:45,590
I am.

3312
06:23:46,950 --> 06:23:48,170
I just was thinking of the situation.

3313
06:23:48,710 --> 06:23:51,610
We've looked out of some of the infrastructure programs,

3314
06:23:51,830 --> 06:23:52,830
some other projects.

3315
06:23:53,090 --> 06:23:55,550
So I go opportunities with that to look at both of these facilities.

3316
06:23:58,210 --> 06:24:00,830
Typically, when we've talked about accelerated construction,

3317
06:24:00,830 --> 06:24:07,010
we've talked about opening up more road right away for projects to get more work done in a shorter

3318
06:24:07,010 --> 06:24:13,170
period of time, like we've done on the intersections with family line, for example,

3319
06:24:16,520 --> 06:24:17,500
so I don't know

3320
06:24:17,500 --> 06:24:19,500
how this would apply in this situation.

3321
06:24:21,940 --> 06:24:24,860
I think this is where the big study of hours,

3322
06:24:24,860 --> 06:24:31,940
You know, approaches to the bundle where the so-called case segment by segments, looking at, ah, you know,

3323
06:24:33,240 --> 06:24:37,080
but the quick improvement ones, there's a lot of positive debates that I should.

3324
06:24:41,070 --> 06:24:48,110
I'd say generally the scope of the work of these projects doesn't really lend itself to, I'm trying to think of ways that we can accelerate it.

3325
06:24:48,310 --> 06:24:57,290
I think, you know, having the supply chain and materials available up front obviously is a big part of this and I think that's probably our biggest opportunity.

3326
06:24:57,290 --> 06:25:02,530
there is. We were viewing the designs as we were speaking here. There is some civil infrastructure

3327
06:25:02,530 --> 06:25:06,450
involved as part of this curve and gutter of relocations, catch basins, things like that.

3328
06:25:08,410 --> 06:25:13,410
So certainly extending the hours within a residential community is not something we generally do

3329
06:25:13,410 --> 06:25:17,890
with our neighborhood construction. So just thinking about the example in 79th Street,

3330
06:25:18,390 --> 06:25:24,230
I don't know that that would be palatable both for the contractor and for the community, but

3331
06:25:24,230 --> 06:25:32,430
We can explore that with our contractor once we have one on board once we get a schedule from them.

3332
06:25:36,460 --> 06:25:39,020
Are you done your questions, Councillor Stevenson?

3333
06:25:40,780 --> 06:25:43,640
Okay, we're coming up to 330.

3334
06:25:44,560 --> 06:25:51,580
I understand that there is one committee member that does have questions on attachment for is that correct?

3335
06:25:52,100 --> 06:25:57,680
Correct. So, if we've exhausted all public questions,

3336
06:26:00,060 --> 06:26:02,040
and maybe I see there's one more,

3337
06:26:02,040 --> 06:26:07,660
we can debate the motion. I think if we are amendable, if we can move to go into private now,

3338
06:26:08,380 --> 06:26:12,140
and I'll be very diligent that we're only going to talk about what's in attachment for.

3339
06:26:12,180 --> 06:26:20,540
I'm going to be ruthless and private about that. And then we can come back and then I'd like to focus the conversation on the motions on the floor.

3340
06:26:20,540 --> 06:26:28,380
you both the amendment and the original motion so that we can move on because again other items on this agenda are timely and we need to get to them.

3341
06:26:29,320 --> 06:26:32,240
So can I get a motion Councillor Clark?

3342
06:26:35,300 --> 06:26:40,300
Yeah, I'll move that we'll go into private section of remind me.

3343
06:26:40,360 --> 06:26:40,920
Whatever.

3344
06:26:41,640 --> 06:26:44,540
What is attachment for

3345
06:26:44,540 --> 06:26:51,660
for intergovernmental relations and advice from officials for intergovernmental relations

3346
06:26:51,660 --> 06:26:53,480
and advice for officials in attachment for.

3347
06:26:53,500 --> 06:26:54,520
I'm privileged to inform you.

3348
06:26:54,520 --> 06:26:55,740
I'm privileged to inform you.

3349
06:26:56,260 --> 06:27:03,540
So section 26, disclosure harmful to intergovernmental relations, section 29 advice from officials

3350
06:27:03,540 --> 06:27:08,900
and section 32, privileged information of the access to information act.

3351
06:27:08,900 --> 06:27:09,340
Correct.

3352
06:27:10,200 --> 06:27:10,700
Thank you.

3353
06:27:10,900 --> 06:27:14,460
Any questions on going into private for questions on that attachment?

3354
06:27:16,040 --> 06:27:17,520
please vote. Yes.

3355
06:27:20,420 --> 06:27:22,700
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Nack.

3356
06:27:26,980 --> 06:27:28,880
Councillor Piquette, are you with us?

3357
06:27:32,920 --> 06:27:35,800
Little Mark Councillor Piquette. Absolutely. We have all the votes.

3358
06:27:36,160 --> 06:27:39,800
Please display the votes. And that is carried.

3359
06:27:40,680 --> 06:27:43,700
So for those that are already leaving you, it seems like you know it's happening.

3360
06:27:43,940 --> 06:27:47,840
We're going to have our break. We're going to recess now until 345.

3361
06:27:47,840 --> 06:27:56,540
We're going to come back in private for focused questions and then we will, that we'll be back to debate the motion on the floor.

3362
06:27:56,740 --> 06:27:57,240
Thank you.

3363
07:09:19,840 --> 07:09:22,960
Just let me know when we're ready to begin again.

3364
07:09:25,470 --> 07:09:28,890
Were there any members of the public that we're waiting to come in?

3365
07:09:29,690 --> 07:09:31,310
We're good to let them in, yes.

3366
07:10:02,190 --> 07:10:07,850
And Madam Clerk, Madam Clerk, any more sorry, we switched for a long day. I apologize.

3367
07:10:12,540 --> 07:10:18,580
Can you put up the motion that we left off on when we were in public, the amendment for the motion?

3368
07:10:20,280 --> 07:10:25,140
So, as mentioned, I'd really like to, I think we've asked a lot of rounds of questions on the report.

3369
07:10:26,860 --> 07:10:33,200
We're going to focus right now on the amendment to the motion on the floor.

3370
07:10:34,000 --> 07:10:39,260
Does anybody have any questions on the amendment?

3371
07:10:46,400 --> 07:10:52,120
I'm not seeing any, would anyone like to speak to this amendment?

3372
07:10:58,470 --> 07:10:59,430
Councillor Salvitor?

3373
07:11:00,770 --> 07:11:01,390
Yeah, thank you.

3374
07:11:01,810 --> 07:11:02,430
Just wanted to hop on.

3375
07:11:02,910 --> 07:11:04,230
I won't be supporting this amendment.

3376
07:11:04,890 --> 07:11:13,130
I can understand why it was made and I understand that their limitations around how much work we think we can get done this season.

3377
07:11:13,730 --> 07:11:23,650
But I think at least providing the flexibility for administration to to make those calls and advance some work even if it is minimal in certain cases,

3378
07:11:23,650 --> 07:11:31,070
whether that is, you know, getting going on some of the local street bikeways that are less

3379
07:11:31,070 --> 07:11:36,470
less involved from a design and materials perspective, I think that that is, that was the

3380
07:11:36,470 --> 07:11:40,230
original intention I want to retain that, so won't be supporting this amendment.

3381
07:11:42,630 --> 07:11:44,910
Thank you, Councillor Selvedor, Councillor Jones.

3382
07:11:45,150 --> 07:11:45,870
Yep, same thing.

3383
07:11:45,950 --> 07:11:49,710
I think there's a lot that can be done, you know, we talked about model filters, we talked

3384
07:11:49,710 --> 07:11:51,850
about others, and I think we should be holding it up to the light.

3385
07:11:51,850 --> 07:11:59,210
I have heard from many, many constituents, family, friends, commuters, others along the

3386
07:11:59,210 --> 07:12:04,970
area in Bonnie Dune in particular who've been waiting for certainly five years, but much

3387
07:12:04,970 --> 07:12:09,010
longer to have the same sort of safe quality infrastructure that Garno, McCurney, and

3388
07:12:09,010 --> 07:12:15,390
Velgravia, others, others have, so long overdue, I want to see that and I just want

3389
07:12:15,390 --> 07:12:19,330
to address for a moment and I won't repeat this later, but we've heard a few times about

3390
07:12:19,330 --> 07:12:25,430
potential changing ministerial direction or initiatives or whatever, but we have yet to have

3391
07:12:25,430 --> 07:12:27,350
anything official in writing.

3392
07:12:27,550 --> 07:12:29,370
We have yet to see policy to review.

3393
07:12:29,530 --> 07:12:31,450
We have yet to see draft regulations.

3394
07:12:32,950 --> 07:12:36,970
In my 11 years at the public school board, any time there would be the education minister

3395
07:12:36,970 --> 07:12:39,930
had a contemplative change to the education act or something else.

3396
07:12:40,090 --> 07:12:44,110
There would be like a guide we would get and we'd go through and we'd look at implications

3397
07:12:44,110 --> 07:12:48,010
and we'd respond to it and we'd have submissions from school boards and we'd have feedback

3398
07:12:48,010 --> 07:12:52,070
we meet with the Alberta school boards or the public school boards or whoever. We've yet to

3399
07:12:52,070 --> 07:12:56,430
have any of this from this minister. This is just governance by soundbite governance by

3400
07:12:57,210 --> 07:13:02,090
maybe this is in, maybe this is out, maybe this is, and so I don't want to waste any

3401
07:13:02,650 --> 07:13:10,290
worry, time, talent, treasure on what could be. I think we need to, we have right now areas that we

3402
07:13:10,290 --> 07:13:15,410
can make safer, that we can help enhance mobility choices. We need to do those right things,

3403
07:13:15,410 --> 07:13:21,850
and let the if the minister's going to do something in future, well, they need to send us something in writing.

3404
07:13:22,230 --> 07:13:23,050
Thank you.

3405
07:13:24,880 --> 07:13:26,480
Thank you, Councillor Clarke.

3406
07:13:28,000 --> 07:13:29,420
Yeah, I'll support this amendment.

3407
07:13:29,720 --> 07:13:31,480
I mean, I think we heard loud and clear.

3408
07:13:31,700 --> 07:13:37,020
There's a reasonably low chance to get this done 2026 for a minute.

3409
07:13:37,100 --> 07:13:40,900
And I think actually when you pair that with the construction projects,

3410
07:13:41,240 --> 07:13:43,360
do the weather delays that are already happened.

3411
07:13:43,600 --> 07:13:47,020
And then that's taking priority for a lot of the people that we would be contracting.

3412
07:13:47,020 --> 07:13:54,920
on this. It even shows the chance of this happening or even slimmer in my opinion. I think this is

3413
07:13:54,920 --> 07:14:01,160
a fair point to take out and this is really just trying to take the lens of trying to have

3414
07:14:01,160 --> 07:14:04,960
good governance and sound decision making and I think that's what this amendment does.

3415
07:14:07,820 --> 07:14:16,240
Thank you and I won't speak too much to this except for just reiterating some of the things

3416
07:14:16,240 --> 07:14:20,240
Councillor Clark said there's what we'd like to see and then there's the reality of what

3417
07:14:20,240 --> 07:14:27,580
could happen. And those are often in this role, in this example, but in every other example

3418
07:14:27,580 --> 07:14:35,860
of city building usually the case. And so the reality is there are supply chain issues.

3419
07:14:36,160 --> 07:14:42,220
The reality is there are labor issues. The reality is we've been hit by some real weather

3420
07:14:42,220 --> 07:14:49,840
events this summer that have, you know, current existing construction projects that need

3421
07:14:49,840 --> 07:14:54,340
to be refocus. We've just had, you know, I just put out the post about yellow head and

3422
07:14:54,340 --> 07:14:59,000
some of the work that's happening around that to, you know, make back up the timeline.

3423
07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:08,980
So, you know, for those reasons, I just look at the, I'm always like look at the context and look at the reality and as a reality match our ideals.

3424
07:15:09,260 --> 07:15:24,320
And I don't see this direction actually, doing that in fact, I think we would end up paying a lot more because if we are going to compete in that context, we're going to pay a lot more to get the same product as we would in 2027.

3425
07:15:24,320 --> 07:15:35,040
So, for those reasons, you know, I think it is prudent to think about, you know, the realities of this construction season and what we can achieve.

3426
07:15:35,980 --> 07:15:42,360
And, but also, you know, I won't speak to the main motion. I do support the other two parts of it.

3427
07:15:42,360 --> 07:15:54,300
And I want to see it proceed, and I want to see all of that great work in the scope of the original plan continue.

3428
07:15:56,300 --> 07:16:01,180
And so that's why I moved this motion. Thank you. Please vote.

3429
07:16:10,360 --> 07:16:13,560
Yeah, well, the vote. Please display the vote.

3430
07:16:17,000 --> 07:16:21,080
And that is defeated. So we'll go back to the main motion.

3431
07:16:26,880 --> 07:16:31,660
So anybody following that means that the amendment is still there,

3432
07:16:33,740 --> 07:16:34,880
anybody with questions

3433
07:16:34,880 --> 07:16:36,340
on the main motion,

3434
07:16:44,880 --> 07:16:46,520
anybody to speak to the main motion?

3435
07:16:53,090 --> 07:16:54,630
So I will speak.

3436
07:16:55,410 --> 07:17:03,790
So with the lack of removal of the amendment two, I cannot support this motion on the floor.

3437
07:17:03,790 --> 07:17:28,350
I think it's clear that one and three were slightly redundant to the already existing council direction and that we, you know, were debating whether we even just receiving for information would have been substantial anyway to say just keep going forward with the plan as directed and if this fails, that's exactly what we would be directing.

3438
07:17:28,350 --> 07:17:31,970
So, failing this motion is essentially received for information.

3439
07:17:32,810 --> 07:17:36,570
So, for those reasons, I will not be supporting this motion on the floor.

3440
07:17:41,390 --> 07:17:41,930
Councillor Cark?

3441
07:17:43,710 --> 07:17:48,070
Yeah, you know, a couple things I'll say and try to get it done quickly.

3442
07:17:49,070 --> 07:17:54,670
You know, I think it's very clear kind of what we heard and we heard a bunch in private that I can't share,

3443
07:17:56,050 --> 07:18:00,210
but obviously what might happen at the provinces is them far out of their lane.

3444
07:18:00,210 --> 07:18:04,750
you might even call it a three in the key violation or a flag or a flat foul if you

3445
07:18:04,750 --> 07:18:05,750
want to use sports analogy.

3446
07:18:07,310 --> 07:18:11,070
But that is a reality of where we are here.

3447
07:18:12,150 --> 07:18:17,490
I think the good news is what we heard from all the speakers today is, there's a general

3448
07:18:17,490 --> 07:18:22,670
acceptance of act of transportation and the importance it is for our city and for people to

3449
07:18:22,670 --> 07:18:23,250
get around.

3450
07:18:23,470 --> 07:18:25,890
I think we're past that, right?

3451
07:18:26,610 --> 07:18:32,390
The question that's kind of in front of us and with this motion is putting out there is,

3452
07:18:32,890 --> 07:18:38,630
you know, how do we kind of step back and in my seat as a counselor and know what all this information

3453
07:18:38,630 --> 07:18:45,750
and know what's coming ahead and make the most kind of prudent sound decision that's available,

3454
07:18:46,130 --> 07:18:51,550
right? And I can't, I can't unsee what I've seen. I guess I put it that way. I know there's something coming.

3455
07:18:52,370 --> 07:18:57,630
I want to have the transportation for the long-term, you know, I even put a motion forward

3456
07:18:57,630 --> 07:19:01,970
on a hundred and seven that have to really make that like a showcase piece because I think

3457
07:19:01,970 --> 07:19:07,030
that can happen and that can probably fit in with whatever regulations might come down the

3458
07:19:07,030 --> 07:19:07,210
pipe.

3459
07:19:07,830 --> 07:19:14,370
So, I want to make sure that we have long-term ones that really work and fit and I still think

3460
07:19:14,370 --> 07:19:20,750
that we can have a connected network all around the city and can get people from downtown

3461
07:19:21,350 --> 07:19:28,330
in the West End and do an amazing job of that, but I want to just take some proactive approaches

3462
07:19:28,330 --> 07:19:34,030
to make sure that when we're looking at speeding up processes, accelerating them, getting

3463
07:19:34,030 --> 07:19:40,090
them to tender, getting designed, that we have that context in mind because I think we have to

3464
07:19:40,090 --> 07:19:50,730
do that to be really fair with ourselves when we're making these decisions, right? So for all

3465
07:19:50,730 --> 07:19:53,770
to have you ensure active transportation

3466
07:19:53,770 --> 07:19:56,730
and doing the best we can, especially in my award.

3467
07:19:57,430 --> 07:19:58,630
Whatever that looks like in the future.

3468
07:20:02,320 --> 07:20:04,220
Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

3469
07:20:05,920 --> 07:20:06,320
Thank you.

3470
07:20:06,400 --> 07:20:09,760
Thank you, Ms. Wanda Cook, to end my support for this motion.

3471
07:20:10,000 --> 07:20:13,660
I think it is, but one, just interesting for you,

3472
07:20:13,760 --> 07:20:16,680
following our commitment to the work and ensuring

3473
07:20:16,680 --> 07:20:20,500
that we're continuing to make our decisions based on our policies

3474
07:20:20,500 --> 07:20:24,380
and the evidence that we use to inform our decisions.

3475
07:20:24,720 --> 07:20:28,620
I think, you know, political speculation doesn't serve

3476
07:20:28,620 --> 07:20:29,720
out between us.

3477
07:20:29,960 --> 07:20:30,080
Wow.

3478
07:20:30,640 --> 07:20:33,200
And for me, it's really important that we set a clear message

3479
07:20:33,200 --> 07:20:34,720
in terms of our intent to continue.

3480
07:20:35,340 --> 07:20:36,580
It's really important for them.

3481
07:20:37,880 --> 07:20:42,140
You know, it really struck me hearing from evidence

3482
07:20:42,140 --> 07:20:45,260
who are really benefiting from these facilities

3483
07:20:47,400 --> 07:20:50,100
for affordability, for the safety of families and themselves.

3484
07:20:50,820 --> 07:20:56,720
And I think this is a great opportunity to be informed of the action.

3485
07:20:57,320 --> 07:20:59,120
Thank you.

3486
07:20:59,120 --> 07:21:00,580
Thank you, Councillor Jones.

3487
07:21:00,840 --> 07:21:01,900
I'm ready to vote, sorry.

3488
07:21:06,260 --> 07:21:06,440
Okay.

3489
07:21:08,380 --> 07:21:10,560
Councillor Salvatore, any final comments?

3490
07:21:11,280 --> 07:21:11,760
Sure.

3491
07:21:11,940 --> 07:21:12,040
Yeah.

3492
07:21:12,040 --> 07:21:13,640
I'll just, I'll be brief as well.

3493
07:21:13,880 --> 07:21:16,000
I said a lot of my opening, but just wanted to, again,

3494
07:21:16,700 --> 07:21:19,900
thank everyone who's participated in the discussion today.

3495
07:21:19,900 --> 07:21:27,020
and voice their perspectives, and really the intention here is to provide clarity and reaffirm

3496
07:21:28,260 --> 07:21:33,440
the existing direction of this critically important program and the critically important routes

3497
07:21:33,440 --> 07:21:39,940
that are planned for this year and next. Yeah, just reflecting on what we heard from speakers,

3498
07:21:41,120 --> 07:21:48,700
it was really really quite powerful to hear folks who do have access to safe and protected infrastructure,

3499
07:21:48,700 --> 07:21:54,840
how that has contributed to being able to move around our communities in safe and healthy

3500
07:21:54,840 --> 07:22:01,720
way to meet their daily needs and and in contrast to that folks who who don't have that,

3501
07:22:02,080 --> 07:22:06,860
but see a future where where that's a possibility and I want to make sure that that vision

3502
07:22:06,860 --> 07:22:12,620
is realized and in order to do that we need to continue moving forward and we need to continue

3503
07:22:12,620 --> 07:22:17,920
the momentum that we've built. It's been really exciting to see the infrastructure that's been built

3504
07:22:17,920 --> 07:22:21,660
under this program so far and how far we have come as a city but there's still

3505
07:22:21,660 --> 07:22:29,180
a long ways to go. And yeah again I am hopeful that this

3506
07:22:30,000 --> 07:22:40,080
This motion can pass to provide that additional clarity and that direction. I also think some of the explicit

3507
07:22:40,080 --> 07:22:46,120
direction around being ready to go for our next construction season as part of bullet three is really important so that we can

3508
07:22:46,120 --> 07:22:52,540
get those tenders ready, and see construction happening early as early as possible.

3509
07:22:53,840 --> 07:22:59,380
And I'm also just reflecting on the reality of installing and implementing active transportation

3510
07:22:59,380 --> 07:23:02,840
infrastructure in existing areas where there are constrained roadways.

3511
07:23:03,200 --> 07:23:07,960
And I've said this before, I'll mention it again, not a stranger to that reality.

3512
07:23:07,960 --> 07:23:15,500
the vast majority of roots in Mordmati require those, those trade-offs, and there is limited right

3513
07:23:15,500 --> 07:23:20,220
of way. And in many cases that does mean that there are changes to parking, changes to the orientation

3514
07:23:20,220 --> 07:23:28,420
of lanes, and not just the reality that we, we have to move through in order to deliver safe protected

3515
07:23:28,420 --> 07:23:33,120
and dedicated active modes infrastructure for our communities.

3516
07:23:36,360 --> 07:23:52,580
Yeah, and again, I've expressed not not comfortable with the proposed approach, as I do feel it puts too much weight on parking and leans at the expense of potentially the expense of delivering active transit infrastructure, which is why it's so critical that we continue as planned.

3517
07:23:52,580 --> 07:23:59,180
So I will, I will leave it there, but but again, gratitude to all the speakers who came out today

3518
07:24:00,300 --> 07:24:00,740
and

3519
07:24:00,740 --> 07:24:03,040
Everyone who's participated. Thanks

3520
07:24:04,340 --> 07:24:06,220
Please vote. I mean, yes

3521
07:24:07,380 --> 07:24:08,560
Hey, you can't say, Jans.

3522
07:24:13,780 --> 07:24:14,960
We have all the votes.

3523
07:24:47,530 --> 07:24:51,830
It was defeated to two. Test test. Oh, they're back there, man's up

3524
07:24:52,430 --> 07:24:58,510
That one's fast. Yeah, okay. They're back. They're back. Okay. So that was defeated and so I just want to get like again

3525
07:24:58,510 --> 07:25:03,350
here, Councillor Salvador's point of crystal clarity. We typically have stopped in this term

3526
07:25:03,350 --> 07:25:11,170
doing receipt for information, but would receipt of information give you any further clarity

3527
07:25:11,170 --> 07:25:15,650
or can we just move on? Because I don't think there's any desire for anybody on committee

3528
07:25:15,650 --> 07:25:17,950
to move the recommendation from administration.

3529
07:25:22,230 --> 07:25:28,030
I think we can just move on. We can just move on. Okay. Let's move on. Thank you. Thank you

3530
07:25:28,030 --> 07:25:32,990
everyone again for participating today. And I will say thank you to...

3531
07:25:32,990 --> 07:25:36,770
Sorry, do you want to find keeping attachment for private?

3532
07:25:37,270 --> 07:25:41,030
Oh, yes, okay. So I will move that.

3533
07:25:41,110 --> 07:25:41,950
I want to...

3534
07:25:41,950 --> 07:25:43,450
You don't need to second that committee.

3535
07:25:44,450 --> 07:25:46,550
So I will move that we keep attachment for private.

3536
07:25:48,910 --> 07:25:50,270
And I do have a question about that.

3537
07:25:50,270 --> 07:25:54,010
Is there an ability to add a time clause to that?

3538
07:25:55,840 --> 07:25:56,320
Or no.

3539
07:25:57,960 --> 07:26:04,800
I believe Jen, yeah, I can mean he could add a certain date or a certain other doctor.

3540
07:26:07,250 --> 07:26:11,450
Oh, agreed with the clerk, but for the caution that I gave when we were in private,

3541
07:26:11,490 --> 07:26:14,910
so that should be flagged for that portion of it to be reviewed separately.

3542
07:26:16,330 --> 07:26:23,030
Yeah, I think I'll keep it as it is for now, but I would flag to administration that when

3543
07:26:23,030 --> 07:26:27,170
the time is appropriate, I might want to revisit this and be able to release part of it at

3544
07:26:27,770 --> 07:26:33,270
Yes. Yes. Sounds good. Okay. Any other questions on the motion? Please vote?

3545
07:26:37,000 --> 07:26:37,000
Yes.

3546
07:26:41,080 --> 07:26:42,780
We have all the votes. Thank you, Councillor Chancellor.

3547
07:26:43,360 --> 07:26:48,140
And then just because I know sometimes Council can be a little bit odd. I do want to just

3548
07:26:48,140 --> 07:26:50,980
and I know there's been a lot of stakeholders that have been falling along and even

3549
07:26:50,980 --> 07:26:53,380
some stakeholders that maybe this is their first time.

3550
07:26:53,440 --> 07:26:58,140
Tuning into a council agenda. I do want to just kind of break down what just happened.

3551
07:26:58,140 --> 07:27:10,580
So, we had the report, and basically within committee is delegated authority, we have said continue that we are not changing direction in any way.

3552
07:27:10,940 --> 07:27:21,760
Please continue forward as has been the scope, so that is the accelerated plan with the roots as planned to date.

3553
07:27:21,760 --> 07:27:31,060
And that's where we are today, so I just wanted to give everyone watching an understanding of what we did there.

3554
07:27:31,820 --> 07:27:38,340
And we will move now onto our next item, which was the next one of the speakers on it.

3555
07:27:38,520 --> 07:27:41,780
And I believe that's where it's item.

3556
07:27:41,820 --> 07:27:46,560
Don't know if we displayed the vote or finished the vote on the vote.

3557
07:27:46,560 --> 07:27:51,780
Sorry, we just kept

3558
07:27:54,660 --> 07:28:04,860
a attachment for private and now we will move on to 7.1 is our next item of business

3559
07:28:04,860 --> 07:28:14,440
because we did at the beginning put all of the items of speakers in order and sequence so we will switch up the delegation for item 7.1

3560
07:28:15,240 --> 07:28:16,580
or is it the same delegation?

3561
07:28:17,820 --> 07:28:23,360
Okay. Please take it away.

3562
07:28:48,210 --> 07:28:52,530
Good afternoon. Joining me today are senior leaders from Infrastructure

3563
07:28:52,530 --> 07:28:58,930
Services and City Operations. This presentation is an extension of discussion at Infrastructure

3564
07:28:58,930 --> 07:29:04,630
Committee earlier in the year, where we provided a look ahead of our 2020 six construction

3565
07:29:04,630 --> 07:29:10,790
season. With August marking the bid point of our typical construction season, our first part of

3566
07:29:10,790 --> 07:29:16,190
the season has been challenging. Largely based on the unusual amount of rain we've experienced.

3567
07:29:16,750 --> 07:29:21,470
This presentation will outline our accomplishments to date the impacts of recent rain events

3568
07:29:21,470 --> 07:29:24,330
and our outlook for the remaining construction season.

3569
07:29:27,200 --> 07:29:28,660
Over the course of June and July,

3570
07:29:28,800 --> 07:29:33,620
the city experienced one of its most historic weather events. The wetest summer on record

3571
07:29:33,620 --> 07:29:37,060
with over 500 millimeters of rain before the end of July.

3572
07:29:37,940 --> 07:29:42,560
Typically, Edmonton has an average annual rainfall of just over 400 millimeters.

3573
07:29:43,240 --> 07:29:49,200
Total precipitation was significant as was the intensity with localized intense short duration events.

3574
07:29:49,860 --> 07:29:53,420
Fifteen days with thunderstorms in June and 19 in July.

3575
07:29:54,500 --> 07:29:57,280
These historic challenges have put pressure on our city,

3576
07:29:57,280 --> 07:29:59,960
with roads disrupted by rainfall and many.

3577
07:30:00,000 --> 07:30:04,880
Home's flooded, and on city staff, as we responded to the strain on our vital infrastructure.

3578
07:30:06,220 --> 07:30:14,860
Public safety has been our first priority, while we strive to repair and maintain the core services that residents and business community rely on day-to-day.

3579
07:30:15,700 --> 07:30:22,980
Our teams within the city across all departments have been working day and night alongside partners like AppCore and Emergency Services

3580
07:30:22,980 --> 07:30:25,880
to stabilize major transportation corridors,

3581
07:30:26,540 --> 07:30:29,880
rural valley and ravine systems, and address public hazards.

3582
07:30:31,120 --> 07:30:38,440
Since July 10th, the city has successfully managed over 1,400 storm-related short-term operational issues

3583
07:30:38,440 --> 07:30:40,980
through our dedicated 24-7 response.

3584
07:30:41,740 --> 07:30:45,420
In addition to accessing our insurance and warranties,

3585
07:30:45,780 --> 07:30:51,480
the city is working very closely with the province to try and recover eligible costs from recent weather events

3586
07:30:51,480 --> 07:30:54,680
through the hazard assistance and resilience program harp.

3587
07:30:55,300 --> 07:31:01,900
This program may allow us to recover 90% of eligible unensurable costs with the city covering

3588
07:31:01,900 --> 07:31:04,140
the remaining 10%.

3589
07:31:04,140 --> 07:31:11,260
As we look to continue to consolidate our applications, we currently project total unensurable

3590
07:31:11,260 --> 07:31:17,840
public sector losses for the city of Edmonton to be $42 million, $600,000 in response

3591
07:31:17,840 --> 07:31:23,820
and 41.4 in recovery, sorry, 41.4 million in recovery.

3592
07:31:24,860 --> 07:31:29,920
We are maintaining a strict cost tracking process to ensure applications meet all

3593
07:31:29,920 --> 07:31:32,320
provincial criteria for reimbursement.

3594
07:31:33,260 --> 07:31:38,800
Despite the extraordinary stress on our systems as shared by EPCOR on Monday at Utility

3595
07:31:38,800 --> 07:31:44,620
Committee, I'm reporting that the vast majority of our core infrastructure has allowed

3596
07:31:44,620 --> 07:31:49,840
resources to reopen with few exceptions and the infrastructure is holding strong.

3597
07:31:50,860 --> 07:31:55,820
As we navigate short-term operational response to these events, we are left with residual

3598
07:31:55,820 --> 07:31:59,040
effects that require further and more detailed investigation.

3599
07:31:59,860 --> 07:32:04,060
This includes slope failures, creek erosion, bridge and river valley infrastructure

3600
07:32:04,060 --> 07:32:08,560
damage, as well as isolated damage in and around facilities.

3601
07:32:08,560 --> 07:32:15,720
These residual effects will require long-term sustainable capital investment solutions to reduce

3602
07:32:15,720 --> 07:32:18,940
the recurrence of similar challenges in future years.

3603
07:32:19,620 --> 07:32:23,620
Rest assured we are actively working through these challenges and have stood up staff

3604
07:32:23,620 --> 07:32:27,120
and resources to support addressing priority repairs.

3605
07:32:27,980 --> 07:32:32,760
This presentation will provide further detail about the impact of how these weather events

3606
07:32:32,760 --> 07:32:39,580
affected our existing capital program will also providing early details about new emerging projects

3607
07:32:39,580 --> 07:32:41,160
that will require resources.

3608
07:32:43,200 --> 07:32:46,960
Before I turn it over to staff to provide key updates on our

3609
07:32:46,960 --> 07:32:51,580
capital infrastructure program I want to share the city's approach to managing construction risk

3610
07:32:51,580 --> 07:32:59,280
on our projects in light of the significant weather events in 2026. Project risk related to weather

3611
07:32:59,280 --> 07:33:04,400
very significantly, depending on the type of infrastructure and the stage of construction.

3612
07:33:04,920 --> 07:33:10,480
There's no single answer that describes the effective extreme weather on our capital infrastructure program.

3613
07:33:11,640 --> 07:33:16,400
For example, when building in building construction, technically known as vertical,

3614
07:33:17,060 --> 07:33:24,060
where the site servicing is operational and the building envelope is closed, the impact of significant rainfall is very limited.

3615
07:33:24,060 --> 07:33:30,260
construction work is able to continue through adverse weather conditions almost uninterrupted.

3616
07:33:30,500 --> 07:33:35,960
An example of this is the Ambulced Integrated Site, which is now trending ahead of schedule.

3617
07:33:37,260 --> 07:33:43,040
Bridge projects where work is suspended well above grade are also almost unaffected by rain.

3618
07:33:43,600 --> 07:33:51,500
An example of this is Brev really bridge rehabilitation project where the scope of work is primarily related to the concrete deck repairs.

3619
07:33:51,500 --> 07:33:59,780
The scope of work coupled with robust erosion and site maintenance plan allow it to rebound quickly only hours after rainfall event.

3620
07:34:00,540 --> 07:34:02,780
This project is also nearing completion.

3621
07:34:04,040 --> 07:34:09,500
By contrast, projects like roadworks, technically loan as horizontal or linear projects,

3622
07:34:10,440 --> 07:34:16,440
that are in early stages of construction are generally more vulnerable to adverse weather conditions.

3623
07:34:17,480 --> 07:34:35,520
Typically, the first stages of road construction include the construction of new underground infrastructure and earth works in grading activities, which may take days or longer to respond to rainfall events as contractor crews are tasked with de-watering or pumping activities to accelerate the work site drying period.

3624
07:34:35,520 --> 07:34:38,860
That said, these are early construction activities.

3625
07:34:39,440 --> 07:34:44,240
Their often remains a longer schedule to make up time through significant construction activities

3626
07:34:44,240 --> 07:34:47,940
by collaborating on different or innovative staging options.

3627
07:34:48,880 --> 07:34:54,060
It's typical for city contracts to designate or assign whether related risk and the loss

3628
07:34:54,060 --> 07:34:56,880
of productivity from this risk to the contractor.

3629
07:34:57,520 --> 07:35:03,520
This is intentional, as contractors are typically in the best position to prepare for and respond

3630
07:35:03,520 --> 07:35:09,160
to bad weather by assigning resources and equipment to both anticipate and plan for and then

3631
07:35:09,160 --> 07:35:11,040
ultimately support the response.

3632
07:35:11,780 --> 07:35:16,780
This equally applies to temperature and precipitation conditions which can both have adverse

3633
07:35:16,780 --> 07:35:18,220
effects on construction.

3634
07:35:19,320 --> 07:35:24,040
Anticipating this and planning for this are project schedules generally do assume a certain

3635
07:35:24,040 --> 07:35:27,800
amount of unproductive time within their plan construction schedule.

3636
07:35:27,800 --> 07:35:35,200
This unplanned downtime is often explained in public messaging around project timelines as weather permitting.

3637
07:35:36,040 --> 07:35:38,860
Recognizing is something we can't control or influence.

3638
07:35:39,880 --> 07:35:46,960
We have successfully navigated several challenges to this midway point of this season.

3639
07:35:47,300 --> 07:35:55,620
Notably recent rain events required us to pivot resources to address flooding and prioritize urgent repairs and safety-related projects.

3640
07:35:55,620 --> 07:36:01,480
Despite these adjustments, we've made significant progress on the construction projects we launched this spring.

3641
07:36:02,380 --> 07:36:13,180
As we turn our focus to the second half of this construction season, we are hopeful for improved environmental conditions to reduce any likelihood and impact associated with whether related events.

3642
07:36:15,470 --> 07:36:23,790
With that context, we'll now walk you through some projects specific updates covering key completions, milestones and remaining work plan for the year I'll hand it over to Jason.

3643
07:36:25,230 --> 07:36:26,530
Okay, thank you, Sarah.

3644
07:36:27,250 --> 07:36:32,090
Our first project updates focus on the large LRT projects led by my colleague, Bruce Ferguson.

3645
07:36:33,430 --> 07:36:38,210
Construction on the 14 kilometers of a valley line west LRT from downtown Ementon to Lewis

3646
07:36:38,210 --> 07:36:42,610
Farms is currently in year 5 of major construction under a contractor merry-gold.

3647
07:36:43,610 --> 07:36:49,350
For 2,026, a key milestone for this project includes completing the one-to-second

3648
07:36:49,350 --> 07:36:53,610
corridor between one or two street, one or seven street, covering full-world reconstruction,

3649
07:36:54,210 --> 07:37:01,070
new sidewalks, and track way redevelopment or development. Also for 2026, another key milestone

3650
07:37:01,070 --> 07:37:05,590
for this project includes completing roadway, sidewalk, and core infrastructure improvements

3651
07:37:05,590 --> 07:37:11,530
along the 87th corridor, specifically the section between 163rd Street and 189th Street.

3652
07:37:12,350 --> 07:37:16,640
While Progress is steady, it is important to note that the weather conditions experienced earlier this

3653
07:37:16,640 --> 07:37:19,760
summer have presented challenges for the contractor.

3654
07:37:20,700 --> 07:37:25,040
Adverse weather has led to a prolonged duration for certain activities, most notably

3655
07:37:25,040 --> 07:37:29,740
the preparation of road and track subgrade to achieve the required moisture content.

3656
07:37:30,000 --> 07:37:32,260
A compaction standard is required for the project.

3657
07:37:33,260 --> 07:37:38,220
Mary Gold is currently working on a recovery plan for the work scheduled to be complete by the end of

3658
07:37:38,220 --> 07:37:38,980
2026.

3659
07:37:40,020 --> 07:37:40,720
Next slide, please.

3660
07:37:42,780 --> 07:37:46,420
For the capital line's health extension, the contractor is now in its second year of major

3661
07:37:46,420 --> 07:37:47,060
construction.

3662
07:37:47,980 --> 07:37:53,440
Significant work is underway along 111th Street, 12th Avenue West access was closed and made

3663
07:37:53,440 --> 07:37:59,580
to allow for the underground utility installation, civil infrastructure and track installation.

3664
07:37:59,580 --> 07:38:06,860
this was recently re-opened on time on August 1st. The new LRT bridge across Blackwind Creek

3665
07:38:06,860 --> 07:38:11,700
is taking shape with recent recent GERGER installation and bridge deck construction now

3666
07:38:11,700 --> 07:38:17,820
underway. The 23rd Avenue LRT underpass construction is progressing and the contractor

3667
07:38:18,840 --> 07:38:24,020
is ready to implement phase 2 of the major lane shift in September to prepare for the

3668
07:38:24,020 --> 07:38:31,220
the portal construction. Work is also well underway on the Lou Lawrence Operations and Maintenance

3669
07:38:31,220 --> 07:38:36,580
Facility with continued steel erection and roof installation underway. At the Anthony

3670
07:38:36,580 --> 07:38:43,360
Hyundai Drive LRT bridge crossings steel delivery has begun and the steel arch will be assembled

3671
07:38:43,360 --> 07:38:49,840
on-site prior to installation in early 2027. Due to the record rainfall and subsequent

3672
07:38:49,840 --> 07:38:56,360
challenging site conditions. The contractor is assessing and prioritizing remaining work for the remaining

3673
07:38:56,360 --> 07:39:04,100
2026 construction season. It is anticipated that some of the original goals for 2026 will be pushed into

3674
07:39:04,100 --> 07:39:12,060
winter construction or rescheduled for 2027. The exact impact of this, the rain events on this project,

3675
07:39:12,980 --> 07:39:17,320
this multi-year project are still being reviewed. Next slide, please.

3676
07:39:18,820 --> 07:39:24,180
Having only recently completed a comprehensive rehab of the Peter Hemingway Aquatic Center,

3677
07:39:24,180 --> 07:39:30,380
which opened earlier this year, this facility did experience recurring flooding.

3678
07:39:31,160 --> 07:39:36,000
The facility remains under warranty and the product team, including the contractor and the product architect,

3679
07:39:36,960 --> 07:39:43,000
are assessing solutions both in the short term to reopen and in the long term to prevent recurrence of this activity.

3680
07:39:43,860 --> 07:39:53,060
Consecutive storm events caused extreme ground saturation and increased groundwater pressure as well as a surge of water in the area storm water network that

3681
07:39:53,760 --> 07:40:01,360
that became overwhelmed, overwhelmed a lot of the existing and upgraded infrastructure only recently constructed.

3682
07:40:02,760 --> 07:40:07,520
We are implementing immediate changes to the facility based on our lessons learned from the rainfall events.

3683
07:40:07,520 --> 07:40:16,480
This includes relocating the main electrical services to the facility to ensure that they're in a location more resilient to future extreme weather.

3684
07:40:17,540 --> 07:40:34,680
A team of including city departments, consultants, and contractors is working together to execute repairs and accelerate reopening this fall while simultaneously investigating further root causes and potential solutions relating to the stormwater resilience within the coordination park.

3685
07:40:34,680 --> 07:40:35,460
Next slide.

3686
07:40:38,120 --> 07:40:43,080
The telescope world of science building remains temporarily closed following the significant flooding of it in July.

3687
07:40:44,320 --> 07:40:53,840
Restoration work is currently underway on the city owned building, focusing on removal and site recovery in collaboration with our partner operator that at the telescope.

3688
07:40:54,780 --> 07:40:59,940
The restoration efforts are being that managed through our insurance coverage with the city by Minton.

3689
07:41:00,800 --> 07:41:05,840
As managed on the previous slide, in reference to the Hemingway Aquatic Center, Infrastructure

3690
07:41:05,840 --> 07:41:09,900
Services is leading a root cause investigation within the broader area of the Coronation

3691
07:41:09,900 --> 07:41:14,160
Park to identify issues and develop long-term solutions.

3692
07:41:15,000 --> 07:41:19,020
Project resources have been assigned and procurement of an engineering consultant is underway

3693
07:41:19,020 --> 07:41:20,260
in the coming weeks.

3694
07:41:21,540 --> 07:41:26,000
This work is part of an integrated cross-site investigation into the stormwater resilience

3695
07:41:26,000 --> 07:41:30,680
encompassing the telescope world of science, coordination park, and the peer Hemingway Aquatic

3696
07:41:30,680 --> 07:41:37,900
Center to ensure the long-term stability across all those facilities and public services maintained.

3697
07:41:38,960 --> 07:41:42,920
The telescope world of science has been providing regular updates to patrons and customers

3698
07:41:42,920 --> 07:41:46,880
relating to their planned reopening timeframes. Next slide.

3699
07:41:49,680 --> 07:41:50,880
The Lewis Farm's project is

3700
07:41:50,880 --> 07:41:57,660
progressing well with the Mr. High Eye Weekook Community Rec Center. The rain has pushed the schedule

3701
07:41:57,660 --> 07:42:02,660
for completing the landscaping outside the facility, however this work is not on the critical

3702
07:42:02,660 --> 07:42:06,900
path for this project and is not interfering with the planned construction completion

3703
07:42:06,900 --> 07:42:12,560
date. In a recent review of the detailed construction forecasts, we are now anticipating

3704
07:42:12,560 --> 07:42:17,680
that the construction could be substantially complete for this project as early as this time

3705
07:42:17,680 --> 07:42:23,360
next year. Knowing this, the project team, including staff from community services, are actively

3706
07:42:23,360 --> 07:42:28,700
working on reviewing opportunities to advance the opening for the facility earlier than previously

3707
07:42:28,700 --> 07:42:29,600
anticipated.

3708
07:42:32,380 --> 07:42:33,240
Next slide.

3709
07:42:33,940 --> 07:42:38,560
The Inclimate Weather Experience throughout June and July has impacted the ill-heter ill-free

3710
07:42:38,560 --> 07:42:42,300
way project, scheduled by approximately six weeks.

3711
07:42:43,200 --> 07:42:48,460
The weather conditions has reduced site productivity, leading to frequent interruptions in

3712
07:42:48,460 --> 07:42:51,960
earthworks, utility installations, and road construction activities.

3713
07:42:51,960 --> 07:42:59,020
These delays are directly attributed to the ongoing water management, constant de-watering,

3714
07:42:59,240 --> 07:43:04,340
site stabilization, and restoration efforts following each of the storm events that we experienced.

3715
07:43:05,360 --> 07:43:13,060
To mitigate those ongoing effects impacts, the team has established a work site designed for rapid recovery after flooding events.

3716
07:43:13,900 --> 07:43:17,360
We've successfully reduced the construction footprint near the EPS,

3717
07:43:17,360 --> 07:43:21,820
to a lot recently which provided additional space for storage of tow vehicles.

3718
07:43:22,820 --> 07:43:27,540
We've also re-opened the northbound to eastbound right turning movement at 107th Street

3719
07:43:27,540 --> 07:43:30,180
to help ease the traffic flow in the area.

3720
07:43:31,320 --> 07:43:35,380
Looking ahead, the project is preparing for two broader milestones for this project.

3721
07:43:36,040 --> 07:43:40,680
The first includes 127th Street traffic transitioning from the detour road

3722
07:43:40,680 --> 07:43:44,040
onto the new bridge structure, expected to occur later this fall.

3723
07:43:44,040 --> 07:43:49,520
The second is completing the new roadway alignment of 121 Street.

3724
07:43:50,340 --> 07:43:54,860
This one will require leveraging lessons learned from the value line LRT West project

3725
07:43:54,860 --> 07:44:00,820
and accelerating this work by closing a section of 121 Street and diverting traffic to

3726
07:44:00,820 --> 07:44:06,780
1-07 Street intersection where we will be adding a Westbound left turn and an additional

3727
07:44:06,780 --> 07:44:10,660
northbound left turn to accommodate the displaced traffic.

3728
07:44:10,660 --> 07:44:14,560
This work is expected to be complete by the end of November.

3729
07:44:15,860 --> 07:44:19,660
It is important to acknowledge that the issues of flooding both this year and in previous year's

3730
07:44:20,220 --> 07:44:26,700
are directly attributed to the existing stormwater network within the area and not attributed to the construction.

3731
07:44:27,760 --> 07:44:31,820
For example, something being taken out of service for construction.

3732
07:44:32,600 --> 07:44:37,740
The scope of the project does include a significant amount of stormwater upgrades within the area.

3733
07:44:38,680 --> 07:44:51,420
There's a lot of work that's unseen to the public eye and killing tunneling work, which is expected to address many of the stormwater network constraints that exists within the stormwater system in the long-term.

3734
07:44:51,960 --> 07:44:57,580
Unfortunately, the tunneling work is not yet complete, it's scheduled to be open and in service later this fall.

3735
07:45:00,000 --> 07:45:09,960
Looking ahead, the project team has been reviewing strategies to bring the project back on schedule. An example of this is the plan closure of 1121 Street, this coming Monday for approximately three months.

3736
07:45:11,000 --> 07:45:20,060
The 107 Street intersection is being enhanced with the Westbound left turn and do a left northbound left turn to accommodate the displaced traffic as previously mentioned.

3737
07:45:20,440 --> 07:45:26,400
This accelerated work is much akin to the lessons learned from the Valley Line West accelerated intersection closure work.

3738
07:45:26,400 --> 07:45:27,400
Next slide.

3739
07:45:31,940 --> 07:45:34,600
Twilger's Stage 2 is now in its final construction season.

3740
07:45:35,780 --> 07:45:40,640
The heavy rain did cause landslides along white-by-drive located at 119th Street, and the

3741
07:45:40,640 --> 07:45:46,120
contractor was able to assist city staff with resources to stabilize the area, allowing the

3742
07:45:46,120 --> 07:45:50,200
roadway to be maintained and open service.

3743
07:45:51,220 --> 07:45:54,700
I'm pleased to share that the two new pedestrian bridges are now in service as part of Stage

3744
07:45:54,700 --> 07:45:59,400
2, including the Rainbow Valley Bridge across White Mud Creek, and the 142th Street,

3745
07:45:59,400 --> 07:46:02,180
142 Street Pedestrian Bridge over white mud drive.

3746
07:46:03,180 --> 07:46:09,980
The dedicated bus lane located along connecting 53rd Avenue to Twiliger Drive was also opened in June

3747
07:46:09,980 --> 07:46:15,800
and is already in service by ETS. Waterproofing and paving on the Eastbound Rainbow Valley Bridge

3748
07:46:15,800 --> 07:46:21,540
was also recently complete and the bridge opened this week, a significant milestone for the project.

3749
07:46:23,460 --> 07:46:28,840
Cruise will continue to use staged lane closures in both directions along white mud drive

3750
07:46:28,840 --> 07:46:31,820
to complete the final media and barrier construction,

3751
07:46:32,520 --> 07:46:34,280
paving and other works as needed.

3752
07:46:34,720 --> 07:46:37,640
Overall, the project is on track to wrap up this year,

3753
07:46:38,000 --> 07:46:40,780
with landscaping only and other seasonal deficiencies

3754
07:46:40,780 --> 07:46:42,220
carried over into 2027.

3755
07:46:43,600 --> 07:46:44,180
Next slide, please.

3756
07:46:46,580 --> 07:46:49,100
Construction on Twilger Stage 3 began this spring with

3757
07:46:49,100 --> 07:46:51,180
completion set for fall of 2028.

3758
07:46:51,880 --> 07:46:54,040
Construction at Windermere Intersection is ongoing

3759
07:46:54,040 --> 07:46:55,760
until the end of the construction season,

3760
07:46:56,380 --> 07:46:58,360
with various traffic configurations in place

3761
07:46:58,360 --> 07:47:00,720
to support carefully sequenced work.

3762
07:47:01,520 --> 07:47:03,520
As of Monday, this past Monday,

3763
07:47:04,000 --> 07:47:05,820
Lane Changes have been implemented to work

3764
07:47:05,820 --> 07:47:08,180
on the final stages of the intersection at Whitman,

3765
07:47:08,280 --> 07:47:09,280
our Windermir Boulevard.

3766
07:47:10,180 --> 07:47:11,660
We are making progress on the grading

3767
07:47:11,660 --> 07:47:13,380
for the new northbound lanes.

3768
07:47:13,600 --> 07:47:15,420
I'll be at not at the pace of originally planned

3769
07:47:15,420 --> 07:47:16,340
earlier this year.

3770
07:47:16,760 --> 07:47:18,680
This is largely due to the wet weather conditions

3771
07:47:18,680 --> 07:47:19,600
we've experienced.

3772
07:47:21,040 --> 07:47:24,100
On the bridge structure site, bridge piling for the main structure,

3773
07:47:24,500 --> 07:47:27,520
started in June and is ongoing per the baseline schedule.

3774
07:47:28,560 --> 07:47:32,400
and bridgepiling on the shared use path bridge located for their east has also

3775
07:47:32,400 --> 07:47:37,120
commenced. His piling work is more resilient to weather and has largely been

3776
07:47:37,120 --> 07:47:41,880
unaffected by the weather. That said, based on the stage of this work and early

3777
07:47:41,880 --> 07:47:46,020
works being primarily grading, it has created challenging site conditions for

3778
07:47:46,020 --> 07:47:51,260
the project. It isn't anticipated that some of the original plan 2026 work will be

3779
07:47:51,260 --> 07:47:57,220
pushed into the winter construction season or a reschedule for 2027. However,

3780
07:47:57,220 --> 07:48:04,080
While recent rainfall events have caused delays in the short-term, I will remind Council that this is a multi-year project,

3781
07:48:04,500 --> 07:48:08,180
and we still remain on track to complete the remaining professors of this project.

3782
07:48:08,780 --> 07:48:12,340
The critical path for this project is the bridge construction, not the road work,

3783
07:48:12,680 --> 07:48:16,340
and as mentioned, the piling activities are progressing as planned.

3784
07:48:17,180 --> 07:48:17,600
Next slide, please.

3785
07:48:20,520 --> 07:48:25,620
The Wellington Bridge Replacement began last fall in 2025 with the demolition of the old bridge.

3786
07:48:25,620 --> 07:48:30,920
Thankfully, we were able to have the bridge girders erected earlier this spring in June.

3787
07:48:31,900 --> 07:48:37,660
The time during the rain was spent primarily on setting form work, preparing for the concrete deck pour,

3788
07:48:38,220 --> 07:48:40,820
which remained largely unaffected by the rain.

3789
07:48:41,540 --> 07:48:46,560
The contractor did have to make adjustments within the site to secure both the head and side slopes,

3790
07:48:47,080 --> 07:48:49,100
recognizing it is on an open ravine.

3791
07:48:50,160 --> 07:48:52,100
That is also environmentally sensitive.

3792
07:48:52,100 --> 07:48:56,440
of the new concrete deck was recently poured a few weeks ago.

3793
07:48:56,580 --> 07:49:06,220
This is a huge, again, a big milestone for that project and provides us the assurance and comfort that this project is moving ahead as originally planned and will be re-opened this fall.

3794
07:49:08,270 --> 07:49:18,030
The project team has prioritized the remaining work for this project in the event of further rainfall events, starting with re-opening the travel lanes, this is the number one priority.

3795
07:49:18,030 --> 07:49:25,690
re-opening the north side bike lane, re-opening the south side sidewalk, followed lastly by the re-opening of the ravine trail underneath the bridge.

3796
07:49:26,310 --> 07:49:33,570
Our goal is to help all of those completed this fall, but failing that, that's the sequence in which the contractors have been directed to complete the work.

3797
07:49:35,940 --> 07:49:36,580
Next slide please.

3798
07:49:38,120 --> 07:49:45,360
95th Avenue renewal is in its second year and final year, and second phase of construction, the north side being completed last year.

3799
07:49:45,360 --> 07:49:49,080
The contractor is now working on the self-site of the roadway.

3800
07:49:50,060 --> 07:49:53,720
Adverse weather, rain and floods, has impeded the overall progress of this year's

3801
07:49:53,720 --> 07:49:54,140
scope of work.

3802
07:49:54,320 --> 07:49:58,580
The roadway is expected to open in the fall despite the impact of inclement weather.

3803
07:49:59,720 --> 07:50:03,120
A significant contributor to the delays on the project are attributed to the low impact

3804
07:50:03,120 --> 07:50:09,100
development work, scope of work with this project, which requires deep and large excavations

3805
07:50:09,600 --> 07:50:13,880
and a significant amount of manual work that is heavily weather dependent.

3806
07:50:13,880 --> 07:50:20,640
to address this, the low impact development work, has been modified in order to accelerate the schedule.

3807
07:50:21,940 --> 07:50:27,040
The project team has been in close contact with the schools in the area, recognizing it's back to school,

3808
07:50:27,160 --> 07:50:33,040
this coming weekend, or the coming week, using lessons learned from previous years to ensure that we are ready

3809
07:50:33,040 --> 07:50:36,160
for the change in traffic anticipated starting next week.

3810
07:50:36,820 --> 07:50:42,600
The project team is continuing to monitor community traffic impacts as well, including short cutting behavior

3811
07:50:42,600 --> 07:50:44,280
and traffic calming measures.

3812
07:50:45,480 --> 07:50:48,180
The project is forecast to be complete this fall.

3813
07:50:49,000 --> 07:50:49,520
Next slide.

3814
07:50:52,470 --> 07:50:54,330
The deck construction on the Mill Creek

3815
07:50:54,330 --> 07:50:59,050
and 76 Avenue Bridge is underway and expected

3816
07:50:59,050 --> 07:51:00,690
to be complete this fall.

3817
07:51:01,430 --> 07:51:05,110
Repairs are ongoing for a July landslide

3818
07:51:05,110 --> 07:51:07,010
that occurred in the southwest quadrant

3819
07:51:07,010 --> 07:51:09,090
to ensure that the structural integrity

3820
07:51:09,790 --> 07:51:11,430
to ensure the structural integrity

3821
07:51:11,430 --> 07:51:12,570
of the new bridge and road.

3822
07:51:13,250 --> 07:51:26,810
The weather-related event, sorry, the landslide that was experienced, that weather-related event has required modifications to the contractor's sequence and project resourcing, resulting in minor schedule impacts.

3823
07:51:27,570 --> 07:51:35,430
The contractor has brought in additional resources to ensure that the critical path, which is the bridges, can continue unaffected.

3824
07:51:35,570 --> 07:51:38,310
The project is still in track to be completed this fall.

3825
07:51:41,210 --> 07:51:50,790
Lastly, turning to our land development portfolio led by Chris Hodgson, record rainfall and severe weather events throughout the first half of the construction season,

3826
07:51:51,150 --> 07:51:55,810
have impacted construction progress across several active sites, including good rich corners,

3827
07:51:56,530 --> 07:52:02,950
blackford and exhibition lands. Because these delays have affected our ability to complete servicing and preparation work,

3828
07:52:02,950 --> 07:52:05,850
We are seeing a shift in our land sale timelines.

3829
07:52:07,010 --> 07:52:10,590
To manage this, we are evaluating the revised schedules.

3830
07:52:11,370 --> 07:52:14,570
As a result, some landscape sails that were originally forecast

3831
07:52:14,570 --> 07:52:20,170
or anticipated to close in 2026 are now forecast to be pushed into 2027.

3832
07:52:20,890 --> 07:52:24,990
We are working closely with our contractors to mitigate further schedule slippage

3833
07:52:24,990 --> 07:52:28,850
and where possible will continue to keep Council informed and updated

3834
07:52:28,850 --> 07:52:29,970
as we finalize these.

3835
07:52:30,940 --> 07:52:42,200
I will now turn it over to Pascal who will take us through some of the new and unplanned infrastructure projects, as a result, direct result of the weather related events earlier this summer.

3836
07:52:44,160 --> 07:52:44,560
Thanks, Jason.

3837
07:52:45,960 --> 07:52:53,060
Okay, so as identified, we have a few examples of new and emerging projects.

3838
07:52:53,060 --> 07:53:03,420
So first, the city is continuing to work with AppCore to respond to the significant erosion that has affected 137th Avenue at Horsew Creek.

3839
07:53:04,300 --> 07:53:12,160
The city's immediate priority is to safely restore vehicle access by replacing the culvert stabilizing the slopes and rebuilding the roadway.

3840
07:53:12,560 --> 07:53:18,600
AppCore has been leading the initial response and will fund the remediation work while the city will manage a construction moving forward.

3841
07:53:18,600 --> 07:53:25,020
Then you call avert will have much greater capacity and will allow for pedestrian and active modes to cross the creek.

3842
07:53:26,340 --> 07:53:32,880
Traffic is being monitored in the detour area through the Starling neighborhood to mitigate speeding and best handle the volume.

3843
07:53:33,380 --> 07:53:36,600
Temporary speed check signs and traffic calming measures have been installed.

3844
07:53:37,320 --> 07:53:42,720
A contractor has been awarded the work and construction completion is targeted by late fall or early winter.

3845
07:53:44,860 --> 07:53:51,420
The high-level bridge southeast approach in bank mint side slope has experienced significant movements.

3846
07:53:52,080 --> 07:53:55,720
The slope is cracking away from the sidewalk and altering its stability.

3847
07:53:56,400 --> 07:54:02,620
As a result, and to mitigate the risks, the sidewalk and left turning lane are closed until remediation can take place.

3848
07:54:03,560 --> 07:54:16,200
Preparations are underway to advance the stabilization of the slope and the timing of this work is under consideration and will be coordinated with the high level and low-level bridge renewal work to minimize disruptions to the traveling public.

3849
07:54:16,960 --> 07:54:20,460
Timing will be confirmed in the coming months and communicated to Council.

3850
07:54:21,500 --> 07:54:27,500
Compliance to the closure has been poor and we have seen repeated incidents of barricade vandalism.

3851
07:54:27,500 --> 07:54:32,480
We asked the public to respect the closures as they are in place for safety reasons.

3852
07:54:33,340 --> 07:54:38,680
Monitoring both visual and with instrumentation in the roadway and sidewalk is occurring weekly.

3853
07:54:41,780 --> 07:54:46,360
Moving to the northwest approach of the high-level bridge was also affected by the rain events.

3854
07:54:47,420 --> 07:54:53,240
A localized flow-slide failure occurred adjacent to constable in Zio for only park.

3855
07:54:53,760 --> 07:54:58,120
The numerous rainfall following rainfalls led to its incremental progression.

3856
07:54:58,780 --> 07:55:04,300
EPCOR is advancing planning and designed to restore a proper drainage network connection in the area,

3857
07:55:04,680 --> 07:55:10,140
and construction will be coordinated with the high-level rehabilitation and the southeast embankment repairs.

3858
07:55:11,000 --> 07:55:15,260
The sidewalk is open and safe for use, and monitoring inspections are occurring biweekly,

3859
07:55:15,620 --> 07:55:17,660
or after any significant rain event.

3860
07:55:20,030 --> 07:55:24,890
Several other locations across the city have been damaged or impacted by the rain events.

3861
07:55:24,890 --> 07:55:30,910
We have seen embankment failures occur along freeway, over and underpasses such as the

3862
07:55:30,910 --> 07:55:32,370
white mud drive in Connors Road.

3863
07:55:33,310 --> 07:55:37,450
Prenounced landslides in the River Valley and the ravine system, with the most significance

3864
07:55:37,450 --> 07:55:42,390
one affecting city infrastructure, having so far occurred below Saskatchewan Drive.

3865
07:55:43,310 --> 07:55:46,330
In many areas of the city, trails have suffered damages.

3866
07:55:47,090 --> 07:55:51,210
In some instances, minor repairs are possible to maintain the trail open.

3867
07:55:51,210 --> 07:55:56,150
However, in other areas, the failures are to the point of reinstatement not being feasible.

3868
07:55:56,970 --> 07:55:59,610
Some alignments and routes will need to be abandoned.

3869
07:56:01,150 --> 07:56:05,990
Finally, many bridge abutments have been subject to erosion and scour,

3870
07:56:06,830 --> 07:56:12,450
and we continue to do frequent assessments and monitoring.

3871
07:56:14,070 --> 07:56:20,150
Administration is prioritizing repair based on priority impacts to the overall transportation networks.

3872
07:56:20,150 --> 07:56:24,210
resource availability and looking at the opportunity to combine the

3873
07:56:24,210 --> 07:56:29,010
remediation with other plan projects to minimize disruptions.

3874
07:56:29,870 --> 07:56:30,610
Over to Sarah.

3875
07:56:32,990 --> 07:56:38,330
Just I wanted to note, I made a mistake at the beginning when I talked about the recovery.

3876
07:56:38,730 --> 07:56:42,450
So our submission to harp is estimated to total 42 million.

3877
07:56:43,270 --> 07:56:47,970
41.4 million is response and 600K is recovery.

3878
07:56:47,970 --> 07:56:56,530
I had response and recovery flipped the amount, while the summer severe weather created

3879
07:56:56,530 --> 07:57:01,150
challenges, several key projects have reached completion or significant milestones.

3880
07:57:01,790 --> 07:57:08,430
These include 102 and 104 street intersection downtown, Commonwealth Stadium and Fieldhouse

3881
07:57:08,430 --> 07:57:15,830
Artificial Turfernuel, Dawson Bridge, Rehab, and the Rainbow Valley in 142nd Street

3882
07:57:15,830 --> 07:57:16,970
for pedestrian bridges.

3883
07:57:17,690 --> 07:57:20,490
We are currently passed the midpoint of our construction season,

3884
07:57:20,810 --> 07:57:22,790
and while many milestones have been met,

3885
07:57:23,170 --> 07:57:26,250
we must acknowledge the impacts that are not fully,

3886
07:57:26,250 --> 07:57:27,650
are not yet fully realized.

3887
07:57:28,210 --> 07:57:30,150
We are actively managing the uncertainties

3888
07:57:30,150 --> 07:57:32,730
of the coming months to determine our path forward.

3889
07:57:33,130 --> 07:57:36,390
Our priority remains clear to adapt to these conditions

3890
07:57:36,390 --> 07:57:38,810
and do with everything within our control

3891
07:57:38,810 --> 07:57:40,870
to catch up and meet our year in targets.

3892
07:57:41,790 --> 07:57:42,510
Thank you.

3893
07:57:44,050 --> 07:58:01,090
Thank you and I see we're right at time, so we will have a recess and then when we come back at 6pm we will hear from members of the public that have registered to speak on this item.

3894
07:58:01,930 --> 07:58:06,950
So that's where we're at, but for right now we'll have our dinner break and be back at 6pm.

3895
09:00:36,590 --> 09:00:51,650
Does somebody have me some? Oh, yep. Okay. And I will start with a roll call of committee members and Councillor Salvedor. Good evening. Councillor Clark.

3896
09:00:51,650 --> 09:00:54,630
Good evening. Councillor Piquette.

3897
09:01:00,470 --> 09:01:07,870
Councillor Jabs and Mayor Nack.

3898
09:01:11,860 --> 09:01:14,780
No, okay. And we are

3899
09:01:14,780 --> 09:01:20,260
joined by other Council colleagues including Councillor Palmer who is still in chamber

3900
09:01:20,260 --> 09:01:27,520
with us right now. And right before recess, we had heard the presentation on 7.1 impacts

3901
09:01:27,520 --> 09:01:33,220
of weather events and we do have some speakers registered on this item. I don't know if they

3902
09:01:33,220 --> 09:01:43,080
are still with us given where we are in this thing, but I have David, I'm guessing all is a panel

3903
09:01:43,080 --> 09:01:50,020
same as we've done before right for one panel David Johnson are you I see you're online

3904
09:01:50,020 --> 09:01:59,920
okay perfect Ryan Christensen yes someone line perfect wrath tender and uh yeah

3905
09:01:59,920 --> 09:02:05,020
President thank you Carolyn Oze to Oze to Duke Oze to Duke

3906
09:02:07,040 --> 09:02:08,880
Carolyn was unable to make it due to the

3907
09:02:08,880 --> 09:02:09,580
I mean, unfortunately.

3908
09:02:10,280 --> 09:02:10,940
I understand.

3909
09:02:11,440 --> 09:02:12,880
And then, fell in.

3910
09:02:14,040 --> 09:02:14,560
Shellingberg?

3911
09:02:16,580 --> 09:02:17,280
Yeah, I'm here.

3912
09:02:17,340 --> 09:02:18,060
Okay, perfect.

3913
09:02:19,060 --> 09:02:22,200
Well, you know, if you're just joining, I'll just give you a recap.

3914
09:02:22,320 --> 09:02:26,880
We've actually switched our orders to just have three minutes speaking time and then three

3915
09:02:26,880 --> 09:02:32,100
minutes for counselor questions just so we can get through pretty packed agenda.

3916
09:02:33,140 --> 09:02:38,600
So we will start with three minutes each and then after we've asked you, after you've done your presentations,

3917
09:02:38,600 --> 09:02:40,500
We may have questions for you.

3918
09:02:40,780 --> 09:02:44,520
So we'll start with David, please go ahead first.

3919
09:02:47,290 --> 09:02:48,370
Thank you.

3920
09:02:49,110 --> 09:02:49,490
Councillor Rotterdam.

3921
09:02:50,130 --> 09:02:50,670
Good evening.

3922
09:02:51,630 --> 09:02:52,750
Chair, members of the committee.

3923
09:02:53,110 --> 09:02:54,010
My name is David Johnson.

3924
09:02:54,070 --> 09:02:56,930
I'm the president of the Edmonton Construction Association.

3925
09:02:57,810 --> 09:03:00,230
I'm speaking quick to make the three-minute timeline.

3926
09:03:01,570 --> 09:03:07,570
So I'm brief yesterday that you see a representative of the industrial commercial and institutional construction sector in the Edmonton region.

3927
09:03:07,570 --> 09:03:13,530
Many of our members help deliver public infrastructure and intelligence rely on every day that includes

3928
09:03:13,530 --> 09:03:19,070
roads, produce, underground utilities, drainage work, concrete, asphalt, public building and

3929
09:03:19,070 --> 09:03:21,590
neighborhood renewal among other things.

3930
09:03:22,590 --> 09:03:26,990
I'm here today to provide an industry perspective on what contractors are staying on the ground,

3931
09:03:27,230 --> 09:03:31,070
particularly as it relates to other works and infrastructure projects.

3932
09:03:31,990 --> 09:03:38,510
I mean, those are used to working in adverse weather conditions, I mean, we work outside quite often.

3933
09:03:40,130 --> 09:03:45,330
And most of the projects have built-in and scheduled contingencies for a lot of these types of events.

3934
09:03:46,210 --> 09:03:51,250
This has been a normal, wet construction season.

3935
09:03:52,270 --> 09:03:56,530
So the public reporting is shown that immigrants received more than 530 mls of rain in June and July.

3936
09:03:56,530 --> 09:04:03,770
This is a record setting amount as we all know and that's in a very short construction window that we that we have and the greater

3937
09:04:03,770 --> 09:04:04,530
I'm can reach in

3938
09:04:05,550 --> 09:04:10,530
For infrastructure projects, the issue is not only rain itself, the larger issue is what the rain leaves behind

3939
09:04:11,070 --> 09:04:15,790
So when it comes saturated, work does not automatically return to normal once the sky clears

3940
09:04:16,430 --> 09:04:23,870
Exhibitions may need to be pumped trenches, inspected access routes might be too soft for equipment, base material might not be ready for compassion

3941
09:04:24,350 --> 09:04:28,550
And there might be some re-sequencing of work for the next activity can proceed.

3942
09:04:29,550 --> 09:04:32,830
So this is why projects are be affected by rain even on a sunny day.

3943
09:04:33,970 --> 09:04:36,870
I'm going to skip ahead a little bit. I just try to keep on time here.

3944
09:04:39,210 --> 09:04:43,310
What we're hearing from our members is the impact of very bright project and by scope of work.

3945
09:04:43,850 --> 09:04:46,850
So some contractors reporting delays are backlogs of several weeks.

3946
09:04:47,510 --> 09:04:52,870
However, it was noted in the presentation that many of the current immunospolental

3947
09:04:52,870 --> 09:04:58,670
pressure projects, despite the delays, are still on track, which would be a testament

3948
09:04:58,670 --> 09:05:04,390
to the hard work that is put in at the contract level of course, and in communication

3949
09:05:04,390 --> 09:05:05,170
with the city.

3950
09:05:06,550 --> 09:05:10,630
These are obviously core parts of immunospolental pressure delivery, but there are also activities

3951
09:05:10,630 --> 09:05:15,410
were safety and quality cannot be compromised. So you can't properly open up pay over on

3952
09:05:15,410 --> 09:05:20,150
the table base. You can't recover lost time simply by asking people to work faster.

3953
09:05:20,350 --> 09:05:25,010
You can't take no chance safety. Again, that doesn't mean the contractors are standing still.

3954
09:05:25,350 --> 09:05:31,290
We're moving forward. The city manager teams are working through the same realities. So again,

3955
09:05:31,610 --> 09:05:35,870
the coordination between the city is project owner, the contractors are subcontractors and

3956
09:05:35,870 --> 09:05:40,050
utilities become really important. And I think for taxpayer funded infrastructure that really

3957
09:05:40,050 --> 09:05:44,710
So I think the key point is after a rainfall of the scale, the construction of cover is

3958
09:05:44,710 --> 09:05:47,970
measured not only by when the rain stops, but it's measured by when the ground, the site,

3959
09:05:48,090 --> 09:05:51,830
the sequence of work that already is safe to proceed. I think that's my time.

3960
09:05:52,010 --> 09:05:56,270
Thank you. Yes. I appreciate you adjusting your presentation.

3961
09:05:56,970 --> 09:06:03,130
There may be questions as I mentioned before. Now we go to Speaker Ryan Christensen.

3962
09:06:05,900 --> 09:06:11,040
Good afternoon. All of just as well. So my name is Ryan Christensen. I'm here today as chair

3963
09:06:11,040 --> 09:06:16,260
the Board of the Edmonton Construction Association. The ECN represents hundreds of contractors,

3964
09:06:16,520 --> 09:06:21,620
trade partners, consultants, suppliers, and construction professionals. Construction in

3965
09:06:21,620 --> 09:06:25,880
Alberta has always been seasonal and whether has always been part of our business. We plan

3966
09:06:25,880 --> 09:06:30,460
for it, we don't contingencies around it, but what we experience this summer, just like David

3967
09:06:30,460 --> 09:06:36,940
has mentioned, and it's been mentioned by Jason and others, is that this summer is not typical

3968
09:06:36,940 --> 09:06:42,100
construction water. Frequency and intensity of rainfall created conditions that affected virtually

3969
09:06:42,100 --> 09:06:46,740
every project underway in eminent. Whether as a lack facility, a school, a healthcare

3970
09:06:46,740 --> 09:06:51,440
project, a commercial development, housing project, or critical infrastructure, contract

3971
09:06:51,440 --> 09:06:55,900
space, repeated weather events that left little opportunity for sites to recover between

3972
09:06:55,900 --> 09:07:01,060
storms. Saturated ground conditions delayed excavation foundations, underground services, concrete

3973
09:07:01,060 --> 09:07:06,180
placement, exterior work, and site development. So what made this year particularly challenging

3974
09:07:06,180 --> 09:07:10,260
There's not a single storm around, again, like David mentioned, but the key little of effect

3975
09:07:10,260 --> 09:07:11,300
of weeks of disruption.

3976
09:07:11,900 --> 09:07:14,700
Construction schedules are highly interconnected as we all know.

3977
09:07:15,020 --> 09:07:18,140
When one activity is delayed, every activity that follows is affected.

3978
09:07:18,520 --> 09:07:24,000
The result is a cascading effect on labor, materials, productivity, and ultimately project delivery.

3979
09:07:24,520 --> 09:07:27,700
So time lost in July is not easily recovered later in the season,

3980
09:07:27,980 --> 09:07:29,900
and often results in increased costs and reduced.

3981
09:07:30,000 --> 09:07:47,480
The broader concern for our issue is that what was once considered exceptional is becoming increasingly common, as we discuss climate resilience and the future of our infrastructure, we must also discuss the resilience of the construction systems responsible for delivering that infrastructure.

3982
09:07:48,120 --> 09:07:51,060
And that conversation must include fair risk allocation.

3983
09:07:51,060 --> 09:07:55,400
Construction contracts are most successful when risks are assigned to the parties

3984
09:07:55,400 --> 09:08:00,100
best able to manage them. Contractors can manage labor, productivity, and construction

3985
09:08:00,100 --> 09:08:04,740
methods, but no contractor can manage record-grained follow-up for a long-to-better event.

3986
09:08:05,200 --> 09:08:09,360
One other move is beyond what could reasonably have been anticipated. The focus should not be

3987
09:08:09,360 --> 09:08:13,820
on which party absorbs the impact should be on how project partners work together to overcome

3988
09:08:13,820 --> 09:08:17,800
that. So fair risk allocation creates stronger partnerships needing a better project

3989
09:08:17,800 --> 09:08:22,980
outcomes which will provide better value for customers. The ECA and its members are proud partners

3990
09:08:22,980 --> 09:08:26,960
in building the city, we're not seeking special treatment, we're asking for recognition

3991
09:08:26,960 --> 09:08:31,060
that the conditions experience the summer, we're sure they're extraordinary and they're

3992
09:08:31,060 --> 09:08:35,700
impacts are real and that our approach to delivering project must continue to evolve alongside

3993
09:08:35,700 --> 09:08:41,420
the changing reality as we face. So I guess my, my request today is continuing engagement

3994
09:08:41,420 --> 09:08:46,680
and within the industry stakeholders, including ECA in discussions about how extreme weather risks

3995
09:08:46,680 --> 09:08:50,100
or address and project planning, procurement, and contract delivery.

3996
09:08:50,880 --> 09:08:55,860
BCS stands ready to work alongside the city's administration and industry partners to identify

3997
09:08:55,860 --> 09:09:00,460
practical solutions, because successful projects are an auto-cheered one-quarter carries

3998
09:09:00,460 --> 09:09:04,700
on a list where a cheered one of the risk is under state allocated fairly and managed collectively.

3999
09:09:06,020 --> 09:09:06,560
Thank you.

4000
09:09:06,780 --> 09:09:07,660
Thank you.

4001
09:09:08,660 --> 09:09:11,080
Rath, please go ahead.

4002
09:09:14,310 --> 09:09:18,010
Good evening, Chair and members of the Infrastructure Committee.

4003
09:09:18,010 --> 09:09:27,850
My name is Raph Kendorenda, I live in Starling and Wired in the ISCA, where I also serve as the president for the big-lay community league.

4004
09:09:28,630 --> 09:09:30,070
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

4005
09:09:30,250 --> 09:09:36,750
I want to acknowledge that it's been a long day for Council and committee members with significant discussion around active transportation.

4006
09:09:37,530 --> 09:09:40,250
So I appreciate the opportunity to raise this issue.

4007
09:09:41,010 --> 09:09:46,790
I want to ask for clarity regarding the reconstruction of 137th Ave at Horseshoe Creek.

4008
09:09:46,790 --> 09:10:01,490
concerns with that crossing did not begin with the failure this summer. By 2024, F4 had acknowledged that the existing 800 male callver was undersized and that erosion was expanding.

4009
09:10:02,850 --> 09:10:10,790
That effort asset was not corrected before it failed, so when it did fail, the consequences

4010
09:10:10,790 --> 09:10:16,130
extended directly to city of infrastructure, the pedestrian bridge was closed first,

4011
09:10:16,430 --> 09:10:21,210
then 137th Ave was lost, a large garage formed through the crossing.

4012
09:10:21,790 --> 09:10:27,970
That demonstrates how a deficiency in a utility own asset can have major consequences for city

4013
09:10:27,970 --> 09:10:30,530
infrastructure, transportation and public safety.

4014
09:10:30,530 --> 09:10:36,330
I appreciate the recent update through Councillor Reed Clark's office that indicates that

4015
09:10:36,330 --> 09:10:40,230
90% design was completed August 21st.

4016
09:10:40,370 --> 09:10:46,350
Environmental permitting is being finalized and the city is expecting to take over from

4017
09:10:46,350 --> 09:10:49,130
the site from that core August 31st.

4018
09:10:49,210 --> 09:10:55,530
Construction is anticipated to take approximately nine weeks, whether dependent, by first

4019
09:10:55,530 --> 09:11:03,070
answer and schedule, a nine-week reconstruction is pretty tight that that will lead us to

4020
09:11:03,070 --> 09:11:09,510
quite late fall. So I would ask the committee through administration. What work must be

4021
09:11:09,510 --> 09:11:15,270
completed this fall for 137th out the need to open safely and what is the community plan

4022
09:11:15,270 --> 09:11:22,470
of weather, permitting, or construction delays prevent this from happening. If this project cannot

4023
09:11:22,470 --> 09:11:24,310
be completed before winter.

4024
09:11:24,750 --> 09:11:28,290
What would that mean for reopening one 37-a-half

4025
09:11:28,290 --> 09:11:29,770
and securing the site?

4026
09:11:30,410 --> 09:11:32,430
There's also traffic concerns.

4027
09:11:33,250 --> 09:11:34,570
School starts next week.

4028
09:11:34,750 --> 09:11:35,610
So I'm in drive.

4029
09:11:35,710 --> 09:11:40,030
Wasn't intended to take long, long-term deepwares.

4030
09:11:41,150 --> 09:11:42,130
I would ask an administration

4031
09:11:42,130 --> 09:11:44,310
to consider whether additional traffic measures

4032
09:11:44,310 --> 09:11:45,910
or safety measures are required

4033
09:11:45,910 --> 09:11:48,230
while one 37-a-a for means closed.

4034
09:11:48,650 --> 09:11:50,690
Finally, I want to raise one specific issue.

4035
09:11:50,690 --> 09:11:55,550
In May 2023, Councilor Andrew Nack now may air.

4036
09:11:55,630 --> 09:11:59,990
Public via advised residents at guardrails would be coming up on the north side of the

4037
09:11:59,990 --> 09:12:00,390
crossing.

4038
09:12:01,010 --> 09:12:04,570
I chile with the PM, the city PM said that's not going to be there.

4039
09:12:04,650 --> 09:12:08,150
So I just want to see why there is no guardrails on that was promised.

4040
09:12:09,030 --> 09:12:13,210
That creek is very steep at that angle or at that spot.

4041
09:12:13,490 --> 09:12:16,470
It's roughly 20 meters deep and that will not have time.

4042
09:12:16,570 --> 09:12:17,050
So thanks.

4043
09:12:19,830 --> 09:12:20,430
Thank you.

4044
09:12:20,430 --> 09:12:28,810
And as we mentioned to other speakers recognizing the shorter times, there may be questions for you to finish your thoughts there.

4045
09:12:29,650 --> 09:12:34,670
And then we go to our final speaker on this item,

4046
09:12:36,730 --> 09:12:38,030
Fallen Schellenberg.

4047
09:12:41,000 --> 09:12:43,580
So, good evening. My name is Fallen Schellenberg.

4048
09:12:43,680 --> 09:12:49,620
And I'm speaking today on behalf of the Edmonton Construction Association and providing perspective as a local business owner

4049
09:12:49,620 --> 09:12:52,220
in an Edmonton civil and paving construction industry.

4050
09:12:52,840 --> 09:12:55,220
This summer's extreme rainfall has been exceptional as mentioned.

4051
09:12:55,640 --> 09:12:57,680
Repeated storms have saturated the soils,

4052
09:12:58,020 --> 09:13:00,420
strained a water system, and less little time for sites

4053
09:13:00,420 --> 09:13:02,920
roads and infrastructure corridors to dry out.

4054
09:13:03,460 --> 09:13:06,440
All residents have faced flood-setted roads,

4055
09:13:06,720 --> 09:13:08,320
traffic disruptions, and drainage issues.

4056
09:13:08,540 --> 09:13:12,660
The construction industry has faced a similar crisis across civil infrastructure project

4057
09:13:12,660 --> 09:13:13,380
citywide.

4058
09:13:13,920 --> 09:13:17,140
So contractors, building roads, utilities, sidewalks, parking lots,

4059
09:13:17,140 --> 09:13:21,340
So what neighborhood renewals productivity has dropped sharply.

4060
09:13:22,100 --> 09:13:26,780
Cruises of spend days pumping water from excavations instead of installing infrastructure.

4061
09:13:27,060 --> 09:13:32,300
Trenches ready one day were under water the next forcing repeated regrating, water removal, disposal

4062
09:13:32,300 --> 09:13:35,460
of what materials and stabilization just to regain access.

4063
09:13:36,000 --> 09:13:40,560
Utility work has been significantly delayed by groundwater, standing water, and unstable trenches.

4064
09:13:40,820 --> 09:13:45,440
Paving crews have been mobilized only to be shut down because asphalt cannot be placed in rain

4065
09:13:45,440 --> 09:13:50,280
wet surfaces while concrete crews have lost production days due to the conditions compromised

4066
09:13:50,280 --> 09:13:51,900
by quality and curing.

4067
09:13:52,340 --> 09:13:56,540
Project plan for July are now being pushed into Lake August, September or beyond, and in

4068
09:13:56,540 --> 09:13:58,460
some cases all canceled together.

4069
09:13:59,200 --> 09:14:03,780
Municipal road rehabs industrial sites, parking lots, subdivisions, utility upgrades have all

4070
09:14:03,780 --> 09:14:08,220
been affected with each delay creating a domino effect to the next trade, contractor, and

4071
09:14:08,220 --> 09:14:09,040
ultimately the owner.

4072
09:14:09,920 --> 09:14:14,680
The concern is not simply about this used delays, saturated and uncompacted soils can have

4073
09:14:14,680 --> 09:14:18,200
long-term consequences for pavement performance and infrastructure longevity.

4074
09:14:18,760 --> 09:14:22,560
Today shortcuts become tomorrow's pop holes, settlement issues, and costly repairs.

4075
09:14:23,200 --> 09:14:25,960
The financial impacts are equally a significant equipment,

4076
09:14:26,040 --> 09:14:28,580
sit idle, and contractors absorb the cost by pumping,

4077
09:14:28,660 --> 09:14:30,820
hauling, imported aggregates, pork compaction,

4078
09:14:31,680 --> 09:14:33,160
geotechnical testing, and rework.

4079
09:14:33,500 --> 09:14:36,860
Some sites have daily pumping simply just to maintain safe conditions.

4080
09:14:37,640 --> 09:14:41,120
Contractors are also trying to recover loss production and ongoing labor shortages.

4081
09:14:41,120 --> 09:14:52,500
when whether it compresses months of work into shorter construction windows, competition for skilled laborers and operators become a major concern for companies.

4082
09:14:52,700 --> 09:14:59,880
On behalf of the Advancing Construction Association, I encourage the city to continue working with the industry and recognize the extraordinary impact.

4083
09:15:00,000 --> 09:15:10,500
These extreme weather conditions have had. Flexibility known schedules, contract administration and sequencing will help the projects be completed safely and to be expected with quality standards.

4084
09:15:11,140 --> 09:15:11,960
Thank you for consideration.

4085
09:15:14,880 --> 09:15:15,720
Thank you.

4086
09:15:15,980 --> 09:15:23,000
And I'll look to committee and council if they have any questions for our panel of speakers on this item.

4087
09:15:25,400 --> 09:15:26,320
Councillor Clarke?

4088
09:15:28,480 --> 09:15:32,680
Yeah, I'll just go back to you, did I miss anything here because I'll ask him in some

4089
09:15:32,680 --> 09:15:39,460
of the questions you had about just the timelines 137, the guardrails, and just traffic

4090
09:15:39,460 --> 09:15:39,900
calming.

4091
09:15:40,040 --> 09:15:40,840
Was there anything else?

4092
09:15:42,020 --> 09:15:47,100
If they could publicly let us know who the consultant is, the design consultant, and the

4093
09:15:47,100 --> 09:15:52,180
contractor, apparently, and they'd be selected, so that could be communicated on the website.

4094
09:15:52,400 --> 09:15:53,160
I'll be great.

4095
09:15:53,920 --> 09:15:53,960
Okay.

4096
09:15:53,960 --> 09:15:55,060
Actually, I have the list as well.

4097
09:15:55,240 --> 09:15:55,360
Okay.

4098
09:15:55,360 --> 09:15:57,140
Thank you.

4099
09:15:57,140 --> 09:15:57,600
Thanks.

4100
09:15:59,990 --> 09:16:00,590
Thank you.

4101
09:16:00,590 --> 09:16:01,830
And I just had a couple of questions.

4102
09:16:02,110 --> 09:16:04,350
I'm going to go to hit to Ryan Christensen.

4103
09:16:04,690 --> 09:16:07,710
Just wanted to get clarity on your points.

4104
09:16:09,410 --> 09:16:13,850
So when we think about what happens today versus what happens tomorrow,

4105
09:16:14,490 --> 09:16:23,050
I'm seeing that there's a desire for sort of a bit of a change in how projects are contracted.

4106
09:16:23,050 --> 09:16:28,250
It is, was that my understanding correct in listening to you speak, around extreme weather

4107
09:16:28,250 --> 09:16:29,110
risk?

4108
09:16:30,390 --> 09:16:36,030
Yeah, similar to one of the last points that Fallen made was it comes down to risk allocation

4109
09:16:36,030 --> 09:16:41,110
and the city has done a better job over the last several years on working on collaborative

4110
09:16:41,110 --> 09:16:47,130
contract models and delivery models and that's all we're really encouraging us to continue

4111
09:16:47,130 --> 09:16:56,410
down that road and have open communication and be mindful of the fact that a lot of people

4112
09:16:56,410 --> 09:17:01,670
will look at a project or their area or their neighborhood in a vacuum and say I know

4113
09:17:01,670 --> 09:17:07,230
that all these things have happened but this is my project and I want it to be different

4114
09:17:07,230 --> 09:17:12,410
I want it to be unique I want the water pump out of my site and so really it's looking

4115
09:17:12,410 --> 09:17:16,810
at it from a big picture lens and working together collaboratively to come up with.

4116
09:17:16,810 --> 09:17:26,450
Like found said, a solution that's not going to get it done, the quickest necessarily, but one that's going to satisfy quality standards for years to come.

4117
09:17:27,150 --> 09:17:39,350
And being understanding of what that schedule potential moving it into 2027, what that could be in a schedule extension, what it means to move some of the work from summer to winter.

4118
09:17:39,350 --> 09:17:44,850
the impact that has on the contractors from a cost perspective when you get into winter construction.

4119
09:17:45,850 --> 09:17:48,030
So some of those things just need to be considered.

4120
09:17:48,590 --> 09:17:49,830
Not saying they aren't.

4121
09:17:50,170 --> 09:17:56,190
I would just say that you need to continue to work together and make sure that there's a fair risk allocation across the table.

4122
09:17:58,400 --> 09:17:58,920
Thank you.

4123
09:17:59,020 --> 09:18:01,020
And then I just wanted to go to Mr. Johnson.

4124
09:18:01,600 --> 09:18:05,820
I thought your representation was really interesting about, you know, even if it's a sunny day.

4125
09:18:06,420 --> 09:18:11,920
Because of previous rain, it might not have the conditions for why they're not working on site.

4126
09:18:12,020 --> 09:18:17,760
And I hear that a lot from Edmontonians around the fact that like it's nice weather and they're not out doing the construction.

4127
09:18:18,420 --> 09:18:23,820
I wanted you to just elaborate on like, you know, from what you've observed in Edmonton,

4128
09:18:24,940 --> 09:18:32,060
are we maximizing the available time to do the work or is there more efficiencies to be had there?

4129
09:18:34,440 --> 09:18:39,240
Yeah, and thank you, of course, you're right, so the public kind of looks and they see sunshine.

4130
09:18:39,500 --> 09:18:41,380
They wonder why the work has it fully resumed.

4131
09:18:41,740 --> 09:18:45,600
I think the key point is that the construction depends on the site conditions, not just the weather forecast.

4132
09:18:46,140 --> 09:18:51,000
So a site might still need some pumping, drying, and protection before the next phase can safely proceed.

4133
09:18:51,840 --> 09:19:01,280
And sometimes the previous school or trade specialty might have been scheduled in at specific time.

4134
09:19:01,280 --> 09:19:08,260
And then their schedule for another project down the road, so they might have to leave that and the whole project kind of backs up. There's a bit of the cascading effect.

4135
09:19:09,080 --> 09:19:22,820
I think that reinforces the importance of resilient infrastructure, though. Whether you're having a site this, they certainly make things more complex, but they show why trainage roads, utilities, needs to be able to properly and maintain over the long term and not rushed.

4136
09:19:23,540 --> 09:19:37,980
That's great. Thank you so much. Any other questions of our speakers? Well, I definitely think I speak on behalf of my colleagues when I say thank you so much for sticking with us. Thank you for being here and and taking the time to join us this evening.

4137
09:19:39,520 --> 09:19:46,540
And we'll now go to questions of administration and please go ahead Councillor Clark. I think you selected this item. Correct.

4138
09:19:46,540 --> 09:19:47,800
I might have.

4139
09:19:47,940 --> 09:19:48,080
I might have.

4140
09:19:48,420 --> 09:19:49,440
I think you did.

4141
09:19:50,160 --> 09:19:50,520
Okay.

4142
09:19:50,900 --> 09:19:51,180
Yeah.

4143
09:19:51,280 --> 09:19:54,940
I'll just go to, I mean, just some of the questions that that we're off kind of brought up.

4144
09:19:54,980 --> 09:20:00,440
Just so we do have a little clarity, just on the opening date for the 1-3-7-5-9 weeks.

4145
09:20:00,640 --> 09:20:05,240
I guess what is the backup plan that is asking if we can't get that done this year?

4146
09:20:05,500 --> 09:20:05,780
Yeah.

4147
09:20:05,920 --> 09:20:08,420
I'd say the backup plan is it's still going to get open.

4148
09:20:08,420 --> 09:20:15,300
And right now, you know, I solicit Snowwood in September, which hasn't happened in a long time.

4149
09:20:16,800 --> 09:20:20,840
But we would make sure that it's open either with temporary asphalt or some kind of gravel surface.

4150
09:20:21,400 --> 09:20:23,260
Obviously, these are kind of worst case scenarios.

4151
09:20:23,660 --> 09:20:26,540
Our target is to still get the entire job done this year.

4152
09:20:27,240 --> 09:20:29,640
Nine weeks is not unreasonable for this.

4153
09:20:30,100 --> 09:20:33,980
And we've been assured we've got actually got a contractor on board who's actually informing us of the schedule.

4154
09:20:33,980 --> 09:20:42,200
this isn't just the city of Edmonton, and of course, guessing on a schedule, we've got a contractor who is already on board helping inform what that schedule looks like.

4155
09:20:42,720 --> 09:20:45,220
And is that public info that we're the contractors yet?

4156
09:20:45,620 --> 09:20:46,260
Yeah, yeah.

4157
09:20:46,500 --> 09:20:47,940
We've shared that.

4158
09:20:47,940 --> 09:20:53,040
I'd have to double check if it's on our website, but we, of course, had a design consultant.

4159
09:20:53,720 --> 09:20:59,660
We fired a contractor, kind of utilizing some of the emergency provisions that we have on our trade agreements.

4160
09:20:59,660 --> 09:21:05,920
we can direct source that work. So we have a contractor who is actually locally very close from

4161
09:21:05,920 --> 09:21:11,880
real park without naming names. So we've got someone who is very, very close to the site. And

4162
09:21:11,880 --> 09:21:17,220
they've been helping to kind of the big question mark that had been kind of informing our next

4163
09:21:17,220 --> 09:21:21,260
steps that had been trying to assess what size of culvert. And then we could start to secure

4164
09:21:21,260 --> 09:21:27,700
and source materials from that. And the contractor is prepared to kind of take this on and has

4165
09:21:27,700 --> 09:21:32,520
resources and we feel reasonably comfortable that this is going to be open.

4166
09:21:34,680 --> 09:21:37,920
And I'll ask question about the guardrails. I've seen before my time, so I don't really

4167
09:21:37,920 --> 09:21:40,200
have a lot of detail on that.

4168
09:21:40,320 --> 09:21:45,660
Yeah, so the design is still being finalized. I know the team will assess it and if they

4169
09:21:45,660 --> 09:21:51,040
find without knowing kind of the side slopes being proposed for this new culvert because obviously

4170
09:21:51,040 --> 09:21:55,620
that drives the length of the culvert that we would need to be able to put in place. If

4171
09:21:55,620 --> 09:22:00,380
If we determine as part of that work that putting up guardrails is cheaper than extending

4172
09:22:00,380 --> 09:22:04,020
the side slopes, because often those are a product of each other, not to get in too much

4173
09:22:04,020 --> 09:22:04,400
detail.

4174
09:22:05,240 --> 09:22:09,000
But effectively, if we have shorter or more steeper side slopes, we have to use guardrails if

4175
09:22:09,000 --> 09:22:13,820
it's more flatter, and there's more runoff space, we perhaps don't need to really depends

4176
09:22:13,820 --> 09:22:16,980
on the geometry of the crossing and a lot of different things.

4177
09:22:17,340 --> 09:22:21,280
So all that's being worked on, if we need to put guardrails in, we'll put guardrails in.

4178
09:22:22,720 --> 09:22:29,780
And last of just on the traffic, I think I kind of got this answer because I know they've been installed and I did a walk with the community and they were maybe looking for some other

4179
09:22:30,000 --> 09:22:36,460
Placement on things. But is that still, we're going to assess how it goes and then look at those options? Is that still where it's at?

4180
09:22:36,960 --> 09:22:42,100
Councillor Carkins, can't we have us to the parks and our services? So yes, we'll continue to monitor, we have the speed

4181
09:22:42,100 --> 09:22:48,240
monitoring and places as well as some of the collection data. We will, once school starts and once

4182
09:22:48,240 --> 09:22:52,420
construction starts, we'll continue to monitor if we need to do additional changes with either

4183
09:22:52,420 --> 09:22:57,180
what's in place or add another features we will do that. Thank you.

4184
09:23:00,250 --> 09:23:02,290
Thank you, Councillor Clarke.

4185
09:23:07,000 --> 09:23:09,340
I'll start with the broad question and then I'll go into specifics.

4186
09:23:10,480 --> 09:23:16,920
You said that there's insurance claims that you're making on some of these impacts and

4187
09:23:16,920 --> 09:23:22,060
I just wanted to know, are we anticipating premium increases that will need to be considered

4188
09:23:22,060 --> 09:23:25,300
in the next four year budget as a result of all of these insurance claims?

4189
09:23:30,780 --> 09:23:37,620
We have managed a co-ion line from our insurance and claims management section.

4190
09:23:39,280 --> 09:23:42,220
Yeah, please go ahead.

4191
09:23:43,080 --> 09:23:44,960
So we respect to premium.

4192
09:23:45,720 --> 09:23:51,940
We have a couple of strategies to work through like the restructuring of the program,

4193
09:23:52,200 --> 09:23:59,780
like through potential deductible changes, etc, but definitely the recent damages to the facilities

4194
09:23:59,780 --> 09:24:09,780
will be a key negotiation points that we are anticipating premium increases, but if you have plans to minimize it.

4195
09:24:11,160 --> 09:24:16,720
When do you think we'll know those the scope of like any changes in premiums?

4196
09:24:16,840 --> 09:24:24,140
Because I just know that it's definitely become something that's come up as a surprise in some of our budgeting in the past with like WCB premiums going up

4197
09:24:24,140 --> 09:24:30,060
And that wasn't for casted, so I just want to, that's why this is kind of something that flagged for me.

4198
09:24:30,560 --> 09:24:34,400
Oh, for sure. Actually, a renewal is Q1 of next year.

4199
09:24:35,260 --> 09:24:40,560
You've already logged in the premium up to May 1st of next year.

4200
09:24:41,500 --> 09:24:48,300
And the bulk of the negotiations are happening in February March of next year.

4201
09:24:48,300 --> 09:24:53,220
but more proactively planning to reach out to a number

4202
09:24:53,220 --> 09:24:56,220
of markets to a to do small competition,

4203
09:24:56,520 --> 09:24:59,080
but definitely the trending of the losses

4204
09:24:59,080 --> 09:25:01,480
has been a key concern for sure.

4205
09:25:01,840 --> 09:25:04,780
But one of the things that are very important is for us

4206
09:25:04,780 --> 09:25:09,740
to show that we are mitigating, we have class in terms

4207
09:25:09,740 --> 09:25:13,560
of prevention and some of them for seeing extreme

4208
09:25:13,560 --> 09:25:16,880
that our events is part of the reason

4209
09:25:16,880 --> 09:25:22,960
be purchasing sure of us but you have a strategy just in place hopefully to minimize it but

4210
09:25:22,960 --> 09:25:27,680
we can provide an update in Q1 of next year as we get closer.

4211
09:25:28,960 --> 09:25:37,440
Okay, that's helpful and any updates on Peter Hemingway and like I understand there's

4212
09:25:37,440 --> 09:25:42,540
like obviously some long-term work that needs to be done to mitigate this from happening

4213
09:25:42,540 --> 09:25:47,120
again, that's what it sounds like to me, but we're trying to get it open as fast as possible

4214
09:25:47,120 --> 09:25:52,760
so that it can be used in the short term. Correct. And so teams between facility maintenance

4215
09:25:52,760 --> 09:25:58,520
services and city operations as well as within community services. So a Roger Japanese group

4216
09:25:58,520 --> 09:26:04,340
and our team as well, which by extension includes the contractor worked on the rehab and our

4217
09:26:04,340 --> 09:26:08,280
architecture tool team and their engineering consultants. We got a lot of people poking around

4218
09:26:08,280 --> 09:26:14,360
And at this, first priority is getting an open, and we don't want to have the immediate recurrence

4219
09:26:14,360 --> 09:26:18,100
that we had, because we did reopen at once and then it flooded again.

4220
09:26:18,680 --> 09:26:22,480
So I think we've learned from that, we know where the source of entry is, we're trying

4221
09:26:22,480 --> 09:26:28,180
to address that first, and then at the same time, in parallel to that Pascal's team is leading

4222
09:26:28,180 --> 09:26:31,120
an investigation more broadly into kind of the network that's happening.

4223
09:26:32,280 --> 09:26:37,920
So no date is known as of yet, but as soon as you know, I will know, and therefore

4224
09:26:37,920 --> 09:26:46,110
community will now. We will share that with Council. Okay. Okay. Council Clark. Yeah, I just go back to the presentation.

4225
09:26:46,630 --> 09:26:56,510
Just to the West Valley LRT. So if I'm hearing this correctly, we still think I might piece on track for the road and the track subgrade work by the end of the year.

4226
09:26:56,770 --> 09:26:57,270
Is that correct?

4227
09:26:58,850 --> 09:27:07,070
We're still assessing that right now, Councillor Clark. The MIP is currently on track on 102nd Avenue, but because of the weather,

4228
09:27:07,070 --> 09:27:11,490
they have had to direct resources from elsewhere on the project to stay on track with that.

4229
09:27:11,790 --> 09:27:15,310
So we think there may be some impacts on West Edmonton, but we're still working through

4230
09:27:15,310 --> 09:27:16,370
that with them.

4231
09:27:19,540 --> 09:27:24,120
And then for Wellington Bridget, I think I heard the sequence of opening for this, are we going

4232
09:27:24,120 --> 09:27:28,560
to do the bike pedestrian lane first, then the ravine trail, and then vehicle trail?

4233
09:27:28,560 --> 09:27:28,860
Yeah.

4234
09:27:28,860 --> 09:27:31,420
So very similar to what I shared with you with horseshoe creek.

4235
09:27:31,820 --> 09:27:36,100
The team has contingency plans in the event we have an early winter for instance.

4236
09:27:36,100 --> 09:27:39,160
So the goal of the team is to get everything done.

4237
09:27:39,900 --> 09:27:42,240
Failing that, if we start kind of running into things,

4238
09:27:42,560 --> 09:27:44,560
we've provided instructions to the contractor

4239
09:27:44,560 --> 09:27:46,360
to prioritize certain school of homework.

4240
09:27:46,440 --> 09:27:48,380
So first is getting the road open.

4241
09:27:48,580 --> 09:27:49,420
Four lanes of traffic.

4242
09:27:50,660 --> 09:27:52,440
Second, we know that bike lane on the north side

4243
09:27:52,440 --> 09:27:55,180
is a key integral part of our bike network.

4244
09:27:55,380 --> 09:27:56,420
And we need to get that open.

4245
09:27:57,220 --> 09:27:59,060
Third priority is the cell sidewalk,

4246
09:27:59,580 --> 09:28:00,660
which didn't even exist before.

4247
09:28:00,760 --> 09:28:03,000
So that is a new amenity for the public.

4248
09:28:03,000 --> 09:28:07,980
and then the ravine underneath is the last and that's largely because some of that

4249
09:28:07,980 --> 09:28:12,660
two might be seasonal underneath. So the landscaping and some of the

4250
09:28:12,660 --> 09:28:17,040
vegetation repair work that needs to happen. So for more broadly the goal is still

4251
09:28:17,040 --> 09:28:22,020
to get everything done this fall but feeling that when we have to prepare as as the

4252
09:28:22,020 --> 09:28:27,580
industry members pointed out what we have to plan for, you know, adverse weather. So if

4253
09:28:27,580 --> 09:28:31,400
we haven't really went to, we need to think of what those contingency plans look like.

4254
09:28:32,640 --> 09:28:38,440
And then lastly, just for the Rec Center, let me know when I can start the 365 countdown clock

4255
09:28:38,440 --> 09:28:39,180
on the website.

4256
09:28:39,680 --> 09:28:40,900
But I'm here in that might be soon.

4257
09:28:41,820 --> 09:28:43,140
Yeah, we received really good news.

4258
09:28:43,300 --> 09:28:49,320
We wanted to make sure that was included in the presentation because the teams now are trying

4259
09:28:49,320 --> 09:28:54,160
to, it's not often that we have the privilege of being able to prepare for something being

4260
09:28:54,160 --> 09:28:59,240
done early, so we're working together with community services to get that done.

4261
09:28:59,240 --> 09:29:02,540
And Councillor Clark, I do want to manage expectations.

4262
09:29:03,480 --> 09:29:09,460
We don't perfectly finish construction and then open, so there is a period of time to

4263
09:29:09,460 --> 09:29:14,480
my colleagues and community services where they have their staff and training and getting

4264
09:29:14,480 --> 09:29:18,040
the facility ready from the operational point of view.

4265
09:29:19,000 --> 09:29:23,800
So we were providing information on the construction completion timeline and we need to follow

4266
09:29:23,800 --> 09:29:26,280
up with community services on when they'll have it open.

4267
09:29:26,280 --> 09:29:36,460
Fair enough. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Clark. I want to talk about another one.

4268
09:29:37,080 --> 09:29:45,320
So I'd ask this of Epquar. A few of my constituents had flagged for me that the dry pond

4269
09:29:45,320 --> 09:29:56,020
at 146 street was not filling at all. And yet yellow head was flooding, especially in

4270
09:29:56,020 --> 09:29:59,860
in that section between 150, 6 and 6.

4271
09:30:08,270 --> 09:30:31,710
And so I just want to hear your side of the story. I debated whether I even asked this question, but I do want to know, like, how long from when we identify deficiencies, are we getting those deficiencies fixed? And what do you think, do you think that having that dry pond actually activated, would have,

4272
09:30:34,970 --> 09:30:43,530
So short answers, I was at utility committee on Monday, so I heard those questions, and I followed up with Craig, and, of course, after those comments were made.

4273
09:30:44,510 --> 09:31:00,510
So a typical linear construction project has a two year warranty, so at the completion of construction, we call it the construction completion and a certificate issued CCC, and then there's essentially a warranty period on a vertical construction typically it's a year.

4274
09:31:00,510 --> 09:31:04,110
on horizontal construction just because of some of the underbed on work that happens it's usually

4275
09:31:04,110 --> 09:31:08,690
longer period it's usually two years. So on our yellow head project all of our warranties are

4276
09:31:08,690 --> 09:31:14,890
typically two years. So we have entered into we've had a construction completion certificate issued for

4277
09:31:14,890 --> 09:31:22,410
that work and that means that the asset is turned over to the city for operation or to

4278
09:31:22,410 --> 09:31:29,350
at core. So effectively at that point the facility is an operation but we're monitoring it for deficiencies

4279
09:31:29,350 --> 09:31:34,170
and there are noted deficiencies, but I would suggest that those deficiencies didn't interfere

4280
09:31:34,170 --> 09:31:39,410
with the operation of that pond. It doesn't mean that they're not important and we need

4281
09:31:39,410 --> 09:31:45,090
to address those working with AppCore. But the pond is operating and we did see and AppCore

4282
09:31:45,090 --> 09:31:50,110
shared that on Monday that during one of the flood events it did activate and there was water

4283
09:31:50,110 --> 09:31:53,790
in the pond. It was one of the things we wanted to know because we've invested a lot of money

4284
09:31:53,790 --> 09:31:59,330
as part of that project and that in that pond. So it is working but the purpose and use of

4285
09:31:59,330 --> 09:32:01,310
pond and how it fits in the broader network.

4286
09:32:02,070 --> 09:32:03,270
I'm a little bit unclear.

4287
09:32:03,630 --> 09:32:05,230
Epcore would have to answer that specifically,

4288
09:32:05,450 --> 09:32:07,550
but I understand it is a surge pond.

4289
09:32:08,550 --> 09:32:12,370
So it's only once after every upstream or downstream

4290
09:32:12,370 --> 09:32:14,370
pipe that's filled, it would activate.

4291
09:32:14,610 --> 09:32:17,110
So it's one of the very last things within the network

4292
09:32:17,110 --> 09:32:18,210
that would fill.

4293
09:32:19,490 --> 09:32:21,650
OK, no, that's helpful information.

4294
09:32:22,450 --> 09:32:23,450
And I did want to ask that publicly

4295
09:32:23,450 --> 09:32:27,070
because to follow the public questions information at utility.

4296
09:32:28,210 --> 09:32:34,290
That's it for this one, and this is an information report, so nothing to receive here.

4297
09:32:34,370 --> 09:32:38,250
So we can move on, I think, and just, you know, again, why we don't speak to information

4298
09:32:38,250 --> 09:32:38,650
reports.

4299
09:32:38,750 --> 09:32:39,810
Thank you for being proactive.

4300
09:32:39,950 --> 09:32:41,150
Thank you for bringing this forward.

4301
09:32:41,310 --> 09:32:45,150
Thank you for keeping us informed, and please continue to keep us informed, as you

4302
09:32:45,150 --> 09:32:45,810
know more.

4303
09:32:47,910 --> 09:32:56,070
We will now move on to 7.3 public arts to enhance Edmonton's public realm policy.

4304
09:32:58,290 --> 09:32:59,910
So do we switch out of the delegation?

4305
09:33:02,440 --> 09:33:08,360
Or is it the same? Same folks. Okay. Do you have a presentation?

4306
09:33:09,080 --> 09:33:19,640
We do not. Okay. No presentation on that one. But we do have a speaker. So I'll see if that speaker is available online.

4307
09:33:19,640 --> 09:33:22,960
Um, Erica Strada?

4308
09:33:24,780 --> 09:33:26,560
Are you with us?

4309
09:33:27,320 --> 09:33:29,440
Oh, oh, yes, I am.

4310
09:33:29,740 --> 09:33:29,780
Oh,

4311
09:33:33,890 --> 09:33:36,050
okay, perfect.

4312
09:33:36,430 --> 09:33:39,150
Yeah, we're on the public art policies.

4313
09:33:39,270 --> 09:33:41,290
So this is your time to speak.

4314
09:33:41,830 --> 09:33:43,190
And you'll have three minutes.

4315
09:33:44,670 --> 09:33:45,250
Which is a bit shorter.

4316
09:33:45,250 --> 09:33:46,050
Oh, right, yes.

4317
09:33:46,270 --> 09:33:46,890
I apologize.

4318
09:33:47,890 --> 09:33:50,090
No, I mean, following the way.

4319
09:33:50,090 --> 09:33:52,130
Thank you for the time.

4320
09:33:52,450 --> 09:33:54,370
I'll be...

4321
09:33:54,370 --> 09:33:56,090
I'll be...

4322
09:33:57,050 --> 09:33:58,590
as concise as I can.

4323
09:33:59,210 --> 09:34:04,210
I think this changing on language shows the...

4324
09:34:04,210 --> 09:34:10,430
need for investment on the art infrastructure that we have in our city.

4325
09:34:10,830 --> 09:34:14,290
I think it's a great set forward to allow for more flexibility.

4326
09:34:14,290 --> 09:34:22,730
I am just disappointed that within the time that it had to review, it isn't really an

4327
09:34:22,730 --> 09:34:31,230
insertion we're in diving to do or we could have included more language about the economic

4328
09:34:31,230 --> 09:34:41,570
development that this infrastructure and cultural infrastructure brings to our city and I am

4329
09:34:41,570 --> 09:34:51,410
disappointed that that wasn't really included, although we do say that some of the principles

4330
09:34:51,410 --> 09:34:59,270
there are about economic development as well, you know, business improvement areas that

4331
09:34:59,970 --> 09:35:05,570
holster or main streets were engaged on this conversation. And you know, but I have a new

4332
09:35:05,570 --> 09:35:15,490
Specifically we have a lot of public art. We have beautiful concrete benches with 53 art pieces that were submitted

4333
09:35:17,410 --> 09:35:24,750
for the 2008 if I remember correctly or 2003. I don't know. I don't have my notes here.

4334
09:35:24,870 --> 09:35:31,090
It's being a long way aside, my general. All of you are thinking right now. But we have a lot of

4335
09:35:31,090 --> 09:35:38,150
for art in the avenue and I don't think the maintenance of it has been really considered

4336
09:35:38,150 --> 09:35:43,170
in the operations budget path needed.

4337
09:35:44,070 --> 09:35:45,090
It's actually needed.

4338
09:35:46,070 --> 09:35:53,290
The usage of the spaces in the public room, how sometimes it's also abuse, wasn't a

4339
09:35:53,290 --> 09:35:57,690
facture on budget inconsiderations and I think that's something we can address at the root

4340
09:35:57,690 --> 09:36:03,330
because when we are thinking about infrastructure projects moving forward, overall I think

4341
09:36:03,330 --> 09:36:09,630
is a great step forward, so changing language, I would love to see a little bit more of

4342
09:36:09,630 --> 09:36:19,150
engagement on the economic priorities as we face more demand from our city administration and

4343
09:36:19,150 --> 09:36:24,930
all the other organizations that we're trying to just make our city beautiful welcoming and

4344
09:36:24,930 --> 09:36:31,850
practice to everybody. That will follow me. It's for now for me. I do want to say that I am

4345
09:36:31,850 --> 09:36:40,660
enjoying my bike line here. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions for speaker is strata?

4346
09:36:44,500 --> 09:36:58,960
There are no questions of you at this time but again just as I've expressed thank you for

4347
09:36:58,960 --> 09:37:05,380
of the public art policy, and we'll be-

4348
09:37:05,380 --> 09:37:07,840
I selected the idea that I have no questions in the Hampshire.

4349
09:37:08,180 --> 09:37:10,780
Did you want to move the recommendation in the reports?

4350
09:37:11,560 --> 09:37:11,920
So moved.

4351
09:37:16,550 --> 09:37:17,990
And you have that up there?

4352
09:37:18,610 --> 09:37:20,410
So, do you want to just read that in Councilor Jans?

4353
09:37:21,890 --> 09:37:22,930
I move that resign.

4354
09:37:23,170 --> 09:37:26,250
These guys, CouncilPolice Charmary 458,

4355
09:37:26,350 --> 09:37:28,930
Fox Trot, Public Art, to Enance, Edmonton's Public Room.

4356
09:37:28,930 --> 09:37:29,710
So

4357
09:37:30,000 --> 09:37:37,000
The Senate in attachment 1 of the August 26th, 2026 infrastructure services report ISO 3596 be approved.

4358
09:37:38,520 --> 09:37:42,880
Thank you and that's a recommendation to go to city council. Correct?

4359
09:37:44,640 --> 09:37:44,840
Okay.

4360
09:37:46,060 --> 09:37:51,300
I did have a question. Did you have an introduction? I guess you know. No questions, right?

4361
09:37:52,300 --> 09:37:52,500
No.

4362
09:37:53,240 --> 09:37:53,600
Okay.

4363
09:37:53,600 --> 09:38:00,820
I just thought like I feel like really silly that I was like I read this a jet this change

4364
09:38:00,820 --> 09:38:04,820
many times and I don't understand what it does.

4365
09:38:06,240 --> 09:38:09,180
Like what do we have now?

4366
09:38:10,420 --> 09:38:17,480
What is the policy do now and what will this policy with this change in wording lead to?

4367
09:38:19,120 --> 09:38:26,840
The policy was transformed in 2021 when we moved from the percent for art policy to the public art policy.

4368
09:38:27,500 --> 09:38:42,960
At that point the public art reserve was created and the funding of the public art reserve moved from being attached to the capital budget and moved into the operating budget.

4369
09:38:43,600 --> 09:38:53,040
At the time, there was a request to include the language that the minimum amount would still be 1% of eligible capital projects.

4370
09:38:54,300 --> 09:38:58,260
To offer continuity between the percent for art and the public art policy.

4371
09:38:59,180 --> 09:39:10,460
As we reviewed this policy for years and in advance of the next budget cycle, we wanted to clarify that we have moved away from

4372
09:39:10,460 --> 09:39:17,220
funding art on the basis of a percent of the capital program and it really is a decision of council

4373
09:39:17,220 --> 09:39:21,940
through the operating budget. That's what the amount will be allocated to art.

4374
09:39:22,720 --> 09:39:29,840
But we added the or we refraised the commitment to maintain a minimum baseline in the reserve

4375
09:39:29,840 --> 09:39:34,460
that would allow for the administration and the conservation work that the eminent arts council

4376
09:39:34,460 --> 09:39:39,120
continues to do and to ensure the long-term sustainability of the public art program.

4377
09:39:39,120 --> 09:39:45,740
So essentially, the wording is to clarify what has been in place for the last four years in advance

4378
09:39:45,740 --> 09:39:51,760
of the next budget cycle in its deliberation and so that council will have clarity that you'll

4379
09:39:51,760 --> 09:39:59,320
see that how we bring forward the request for funding for art will be only in the operating budget

4380
09:39:59,320 --> 09:40:04,620
and it will reflect that commitment of historical investment and collection maintenance.

4381
09:40:10,750 --> 09:40:28,650
And then, so what, I guess, because the policy is creating the details of the reserve like other reserves that go below the minimum balance, what does, is there like a replenishment like plan that has to be created like, or is that just by too far ahead?

4382
09:40:28,650 --> 09:40:41,430
The public art reserve, I would have to confirm with our colleagues from finance, but I don't believe that it has the same level of requirement as does like the financial stabilization reserve, which has that requirement.

4383
09:40:42,170 --> 09:40:54,230
In this case, it would be the policy as a commitment from Council and administration, and so from that perspective it would be through the operating budget that Council would meet its commitment to the policy.

4384
09:40:55,190 --> 09:40:57,910
I'm going to need another round, let me ask have questions.

4385
09:41:00,290 --> 09:41:06,330
So, I mean, the beauty of like the 1% of cap, and I know this is going back before

4386
09:41:06,330 --> 09:41:14,990
the four years, the beauty of that was that art was just like a standard piece of it.

4387
09:41:15,050 --> 09:41:21,070
We were basically acknowledging art as a basic piece of infrastructure in our city.

4388
09:41:22,530 --> 09:41:32,810
I didn't like that they were coupled with like the specific projects and then you'd have to have the art on yellow head trail instead of where people would actually like engage with it, so I understand some of those changes.

4389
09:41:33,550 --> 09:41:42,150
But while you're saying it's a commitment of administration and council, we can't make a commitment beyond what when push comes to shove what is approved or not approved at budget.

4390
09:41:42,150 --> 09:41:47,670
And now this makes this feel like it's a service package that can be pulled out for debate.

4391
09:41:49,950 --> 09:41:54,830
That otherwise, it would have just been a standard amount.

4392
09:41:55,470 --> 09:42:00,830
So for clarity, it's actually included in the base budget, and it's not presented as a service package.

4393
09:42:01,290 --> 09:42:04,810
Okay, if that offers, but what it can refer to the basis.

4394
09:42:06,770 --> 09:42:14,490
Because like that's the things like the 1% budget would always increase proportionate to the capital budget.

4395
09:42:16,250 --> 09:42:18,250
Do you see what I'm saying, but is this one stagnant?

4396
09:42:19,350 --> 09:42:27,850
So the thought behind it is that we would take into account the increased level.

4397
09:42:28,930 --> 09:42:32,070
So our collection continues to grow and it ages.

4398
09:42:32,070 --> 09:42:39,210
And so it's going to be like any of our renewal, it increases and it's requirement for funding.

4399
09:42:40,450 --> 09:42:45,830
Additionally, inflation, all of these things affect the cost of our conservation efforts

4400
09:42:45,830 --> 09:42:48,810
and what we can do with the limited dollars that are available.

4401
09:42:49,530 --> 09:42:53,350
And so from that perspective, there would need to be an increase to reflect

4402
09:42:53,350 --> 09:42:59,330
maintaining the level of service or the level of conservation that we can do.

4403
09:42:59,330 --> 09:43:04,190
And we've been working with the Arts Council to understand how we can do that.

4404
09:43:05,030 --> 09:43:12,670
At this point in time, what we've captured is that the operating budget is paying for the maintenance in the conservation and the transformational projects.

4405
09:43:12,870 --> 09:43:20,710
Yellowhead, LRT, all of our rec centers have been contributing to the increase of the collection and the addition of new art.

4406
09:43:21,130 --> 09:43:23,050
And that will continue for 20, 7, 30.

4407
09:43:23,050 --> 09:43:47,270
As we continue to move forward, it will need to determine what is the capital, like we would still be looking to the capital program to kind of inform what those opportunities are and how far and how fast council wants to go with increasing the arts collection while maintaining it and doing the conservation through the base budget.

4408
09:43:47,270 --> 09:43:56,090
Okay, so and just my last question in my dying seconds the arts council is a part of of this and they you've worked in collaboration with them

4409
09:43:56,090 --> 09:44:00,470
Yes, absolutely and Renee Williams is on the call if you have any questions for her

4410
09:44:01,710 --> 09:44:06,190
I don't I don't have time, but I appreciate Renee being here and I

4411
09:44:06,190 --> 09:44:10,490
Thank you so much. That's it for me. And we've got the motion on the floor

4412
09:44:11,050 --> 09:44:17,940
Anybody that would like to speak to the motion on the floor. I don't know okay

4413
09:44:18,900 --> 09:44:20,800
Councillor Giants, do you have anything to close?

4414
09:44:24,890 --> 09:44:26,230
Out from moment to moment to moment.

4415
09:44:26,250 --> 09:44:28,410
What art is now just getting in good.

4416
09:44:28,650 --> 09:44:29,610
Let's vote for it.

4417
09:44:30,170 --> 09:44:32,350
Okay, I hope it's ready for it.

4418
09:44:32,470 --> 09:44:35,430
I was ready for a silica we on art.

4419
09:44:36,590 --> 09:44:37,610
Okay, please vote.

4420
09:44:39,010 --> 09:44:39,250
Yes.

4421
09:44:40,690 --> 09:44:41,730
Thank you, Councillor Giants.

4422
09:44:44,950 --> 09:44:46,290
We have all the votes.

4423
09:44:47,310 --> 09:44:48,590
Please display the votes.

4424
09:44:53,490 --> 09:44:54,650
And that is carried.

4425
09:44:55,350 --> 09:44:58,130
And now we will move on to item 7.4.

4426
09:44:58,130 --> 09:44:59,970
Climate Resiliency Policy, C-C-C.

4427
09:45:01,280 --> 09:45:05,480
2627A review. And this looks like there is a change in delegation.

4428
09:46:13,160 --> 09:46:15,040
Sorry. Please go ahead with your presentation.

4429
09:46:15,680 --> 09:46:24,580
Sure. Good evening. We do have a presentation, but for the benefit of time where we are in the agenda, we can go straight to speakers, but we do have a presentation if that's desired.

4430
09:46:24,720 --> 09:46:35,340
I think given the number of speakers and interest on this topic, I do think presentation would be beneficial. And yes, so I will say yes to a presentation.

4431
09:46:35,340 --> 09:46:41,900
excellent. Okay good evening for here to present the review of the city's climate resilience policy

4432
09:46:42,960 --> 09:46:48,920
C627A along with recommended revisions. As global and local best practices evolve,

4433
09:46:49,160 --> 09:46:54,380
our tools and our approach to climate action must evolve with them. The proposed revisions

4434
09:46:54,380 --> 09:47:00,260
incorporate a data-driven approach that will strengthen our ability to to proactively manage climate

4435
09:47:00,260 --> 09:47:03,540
risks while ensuring our decisions remain

4436
09:47:03,540 --> 09:47:06,180
fiscally responsible and focused on delivering

4437
09:47:06,180 --> 09:47:11,140
effective services. Ultimately, this policy is about building a city

4438
09:47:11,140 --> 09:47:13,720
that is affordable safe and resilient for all

4439
09:47:13,720 --> 09:47:16,020
inventor needs. Next slide, please.

4440
09:47:17,800 --> 09:47:20,900
As Edmonton grows, the decisions we make today about our civic

4441
09:47:20,900 --> 09:47:24,480
buildings and community preparedness will directly shape

4442
09:47:24,480 --> 09:47:27,680
our city's long-term financial and physical resilience.

4443
09:47:27,680 --> 09:47:33,760
When we build climate-ready infrastructure, we're taking a smart long-term approach to growth.

4444
09:47:34,580 --> 09:47:39,740
In practice, this means ensuring our community buildings are durable and energy efficient.

4445
09:47:40,800 --> 09:47:44,520
Additionally, it means thinking strategically about green infrastructure,

4446
09:47:45,080 --> 09:47:49,800
like the trees we plant that can naturally cool our neighborhoods and help manage stormwater.

4447
09:47:51,160 --> 09:47:57,080
A thoughtful and balanced approach safeguards our essential municipal services and protects our public assets.

4448
09:47:57,080 --> 09:47:59,540
Next slide please.

4449
09:48:01,850 --> 09:48:08,490
The city's 2026 Corporate Strategic Risk Profile Identified Climate Related Risk, as the

4450
09:48:08,490 --> 09:48:10,330
risk with the largest increase.

4451
09:48:11,310 --> 09:48:14,910
Climate change risks are no longer just strategic future concerns.

4452
09:48:15,710 --> 09:48:18,990
They are our present day, safety, and operational consideration.

4453
09:48:20,650 --> 09:48:23,770
The private sector also recognizes the elevated risk.

4454
09:48:23,970 --> 09:48:27,110
Climate-related insurance claims are steadily rising.

4455
09:48:27,110 --> 09:48:32,550
With Alberta rates increasing roughly 390% since 2005.

4456
09:48:34,310 --> 09:48:39,510
The disruption from climate hazards are projected to impact our local economy in the health of

4457
09:48:39,510 --> 09:48:40,270
Ementonians.

4458
09:48:41,910 --> 09:48:48,090
Estimates suggest climate hazards could reduce Ementon's annual GDP by an average of 2 billion

4459
09:48:48,090 --> 09:48:56,110
by the 2040s and cause an additional 22,000 health incidents per year by the 2050s.

4460
09:48:56,110 --> 09:48:56,670
slide.

4461
09:48:59,720 --> 09:49:07,820
Climate action is evolving globally driven by science, technologies and changing policies.

4462
09:49:08,660 --> 09:49:13,180
Administration is bringing forward a number of updates to the city's climate resilience policy

4463
09:49:14,460 --> 09:49:22,360
C6278 to calibrate and modernize our approach. Firstly, a community adaptation target is being

4464
09:49:22,360 --> 09:49:27,800
This new target allows us to track climate-related risk at a city-wide level.

4465
09:49:28,480 --> 09:49:34,780
This change is a direct response to the recommendation of the City Auditors' 2024 environmental

4466
09:49:34,780 --> 09:49:41,160
and climate governance audit, which we have ensuring we have the right metrics in place

4467
09:49:41,160 --> 09:49:43,660
to monitor a critically important risk.

4468
09:49:44,960 --> 09:49:48,620
Second, the report proposes adjusting our approach to new city buildings.

4469
09:49:48,620 --> 09:49:55,660
Designing low-emission climate-ready infrastructure, often requires higher upfront capital costs.

4470
09:49:56,600 --> 09:49:58,620
But it also delivers longer term benefits.

4471
09:49:59,400 --> 09:50:05,880
To ensure we're maximizing taxpayer value, we are incorporating a sustainable return-on-investment threshold.

4472
09:50:06,720 --> 09:50:13,880
This will guide city design and construction decisions to find the optimal balance between climate resilience and capital investment.

4473
09:50:14,960 --> 09:50:20,060
Additionally, clarification is added to the policy regarding exceptions for new city buildings.

4474
09:50:21,740 --> 09:50:34,100
And finally, the requirement for a Council Advisory Committee on Climate Resilience is being removed in alignment with the energy transition and climate resilience committees sunsetting earlier this year.

4475
09:50:34,100 --> 09:50:39,960
I'll now pass the presentation to Shandra Tamayars, Director of Environment and Climate Resilience

4476
09:50:39,960 --> 09:50:42,520
to outline the proposed adaptation targets.

4477
09:50:44,540 --> 09:50:44,780
Thank you.

4478
09:50:45,020 --> 09:50:45,740
Next slide, please.

4479
09:50:46,780 --> 09:50:54,080
The proposed adaptation targets track city-wide climate-related risk, and we really understand

4480
09:50:54,080 --> 09:50:55,280
this risk in three ways.

4481
09:50:55,400 --> 09:50:57,420
The first is climate hazards.

4482
09:50:58,180 --> 09:51:01,580
These are the specific events or trends that we're facing.

4483
09:51:01,580 --> 09:51:05,740
A recent example of everything that we've been talking about today,

4484
09:51:05,900 --> 09:51:09,180
Council's been talking about today, the rain we experienced in June,

4485
09:51:10,120 --> 09:51:13,360
is officially now the Wettest June and Edmonton's recorded history.

4486
09:51:13,780 --> 09:51:16,860
So that's the hazard. The second component is exposure.

4487
09:51:17,660 --> 09:51:23,200
And this captures what might be impacted or affected by that hazard.

4488
09:51:23,560 --> 09:51:26,300
So this could be people, infrastructure, buildings,

4489
09:51:26,800 --> 09:51:27,760
ecosystem habitat.

4490
09:51:28,340 --> 09:51:37,560
So, for example, in June, emitonsaw trails closed, severe erosion that caused a number of bridges to be closed in a surge in insurance claims.

4491
09:51:38,260 --> 09:51:44,060
And then finally, the third component is vulnerability. So, this is the human instructional dimension.

4492
09:51:44,840 --> 09:51:51,380
How easily a neighborhood could be harmed, and importantly, it's capacity to manage that harm or recover from it.

4493
09:51:51,380 --> 09:51:55,880
So these impacts, or these events are not theoretical,

4494
09:51:58,140 --> 09:52:05,680
we heard today even from the construction industry that these events are measured in significant economic and operational costs.

4495
09:52:06,440 --> 09:52:17,180
So for example, the storms events in May and June resulted in $406 million in ensure losses for the Edmonton region. Next slide, please.

4496
09:52:19,990 --> 09:52:23,810
So, Edmonton is more than a collection of roads, infrastructure, and planning documents.

4497
09:52:24,070 --> 09:52:29,970
We are city defined by our diverse stories, cultures, and people. Edmonton is a mosaic made up of all.

4498
09:52:30,000 --> 09:52:35,480
All these things, place where people build their lives and grow their families. And this diversity translates

4499
09:52:35,480 --> 09:52:41,280
directly into over 380 unique neighborhoods in Edmonton, each with its own unique characteristics,

4500
09:52:41,940 --> 09:52:48,500
strengths and needs. These unique characteristics also mean that each neighborhood could have different

4501
09:52:48,500 --> 09:52:54,180
climate risks and vulnerabilities. Administration is presenting a new adaptation target based

4502
09:52:54,180 --> 09:53:00,020
evaluating over 380 neighborhoods for climate risks, looking at 82 different indicators in each

4503
09:53:00,020 --> 09:53:05,500
neighborhood. Collectively those neighborhoods make up the larger risk profile for the whole city.

4504
09:53:06,200 --> 09:53:11,260
Each neighborhood is a piece of that overall climate mosaic for Edmonton. Next slide please.

4505
09:53:13,580 --> 09:53:18,260
Growing climate risks will impact all of Edmonton, everyone, everywhere.

4506
09:53:19,420 --> 09:53:22,160
Though the impacts might not be the same in every neighborhood.

4507
09:53:23,000 --> 09:53:27,260
or for every hazard. There are risks, though, in all neighborhoods.

4508
09:53:28,260 --> 09:53:34,580
So climate change is impacting, it's also impacting, impacting the backbone of the community,

4509
09:53:34,780 --> 09:53:38,540
the core services on which Edmontonians are live, from public services and infrastructure

4510
09:53:38,540 --> 09:53:42,780
like bridges and roads and urban parks, to emergency management services.

4511
09:53:43,460 --> 09:53:46,400
The risks are real, and the consequences can be significant.

4512
09:53:47,080 --> 09:53:51,420
So, administration's new climate adaptation target is designed to reduce risk in those highest

4513
09:53:51,420 --> 09:53:54,800
risk areas of the city and across the whole city.

4514
09:53:55,540 --> 09:53:57,800
The target is to reduce the number of neighborhoods

4515
09:53:57,800 --> 09:54:01,300
in the highest risk category to zero by 2050

4516
09:54:01,900 --> 09:54:05,920
and to reduce city-wide risk by 10% by 2050.

4517
09:54:07,020 --> 09:54:09,660
These targets are important steps in building Edmonton's

4518
09:54:09,660 --> 09:54:11,920
resilience and safeguarding the whole community.

4519
09:54:12,740 --> 09:54:16,300
I'll now ask Giovanni Bruno, our senior engineer,

4520
09:54:16,340 --> 09:54:17,900
to walk us through the remainder of the presentation.

4521
09:54:17,900 --> 09:54:21,120
Thank you. Next slide please.

4522
09:54:23,000 --> 09:54:27,360
After inaugural infrastructure committee meeting in June of last year, Council gave clear

4523
09:54:27,360 --> 09:54:31,940
direction to find ways to lower the capital costs of climate resilient building design

4524
09:54:31,940 --> 09:54:37,100
elements. Administration has worked with experts such as the former energy transition

4525
09:54:37,100 --> 09:54:42,140
and climate resilience committee to find ways to lower costs while still trying to achieve

4526
09:54:42,140 --> 09:54:47,700
the city of Edmonton's overall commitment to lead climate solutions. However, it is a complex

4527
09:54:47,700 --> 09:54:52,600
space, and there could be building designs that won't achieve a carbon-neutral climate-resilient

4528
09:54:52,600 --> 09:54:55,020
design based on the updates to this policy.

4529
09:54:56,700 --> 09:55:01,880
City buildings make up about 47% of our corporate emissions, and these buildings are also

4530
09:55:01,880 --> 09:55:03,940
facing new and growing climate risks.

4531
09:55:04,760 --> 09:55:08,980
Buildings are an important piece of a city's efforts to lower greenhouse gas emissions and

4532
09:55:08,980 --> 09:55:10,620
provide climate-ready services.

4533
09:55:11,600 --> 09:55:16,740
Administration has found ways to reduce capital costs, but there's no one-size-fits-all solution.

4534
09:55:16,740 --> 09:55:24,800
Different building types, whether an administrative office or a fire station have different pathways and challenges for reaching carbon neutrality.

4535
09:55:25,680 --> 09:55:26,400
Next slide please.

4536
09:55:29,840 --> 09:55:42,520
The updated policy incorporates a sustainable return on investment or SROI approach to evaluate life cycle benefits, including environmental and social outcomes alongside financial impacts.

4537
09:55:43,240 --> 09:55:49,720
Projects will apply climate resilient requirements only up to the point of achieving a positive SROI.

4538
09:55:50,500 --> 09:55:54,020
This provides flexibility based on the complexity of the building type.

4539
09:55:54,660 --> 09:55:59,160
When a positive SROI is not feasible, the project will proceed without those requirements.

4540
09:56:00,900 --> 09:56:05,120
An SROI captures a range of project impacts beyond direct financial impacts.

4541
09:56:06,000 --> 09:56:11,100
It considers the wider social and environmental impacts of project decisions, such as greenhouse gas emissions

4542
09:56:11,100 --> 09:56:13,360
and air pollution health impacts.

4543
09:56:14,260 --> 09:56:19,560
By adopting SRI analysis, the city will prioritize climate investments that maximize long-term

4544
09:56:19,560 --> 09:56:21,260
impact and fiscal efficiency.

4545
09:56:22,380 --> 09:56:27,220
These policy adjustments help manage fiscal constraints, but we risk locking in emissions.

4546
09:56:28,520 --> 09:56:32,400
To achieve our long-term commitments, we may be required to look at alternative solutions,

4547
09:56:32,840 --> 09:56:35,740
such as purchasing renewable energy, or offsetting.

4548
09:56:35,980 --> 09:56:36,600
Next slide, please.

4549
09:56:39,130 --> 09:56:44,210
If Council approves the policy, administration is ready to move from planning to action.

4550
09:56:44,790 --> 09:56:47,390
For buildings, administration will take two approaches.

4551
09:56:48,310 --> 09:56:52,690
First, for projects currently in design, we'll continue to identify cost saving opportunities.

4552
09:56:53,850 --> 09:56:55,310
The second approach is looking forward.

4553
09:56:55,610 --> 09:57:01,990
The new C627B policy will ensure that all future designs are guided by a sustainable return on investment threshold.

4554
09:57:02,710 --> 09:57:07,310
For the new adaptation target, administration is committed to transparency.

4555
09:57:08,330 --> 09:57:12,370
Administration will work to publish the neighborhood risk profiles so that all communities

4556
09:57:12,370 --> 09:57:18,150
have the information they need to better understand their local risks and take steps to improve our collective resilience.

4557
09:57:19,710 --> 09:57:23,010
However, targets are only meaningful when supported by concrete actions.

4558
09:57:23,530 --> 09:57:27,910
On September 2nd, administration will bring our climate priorities to executive committee,

4559
09:57:28,430 --> 09:57:30,610
which includes an update on greenhouse gas emissions.

4560
09:57:30,610 --> 09:57:33,950
These actions will outline the top climate priorities.

4561
09:57:34,730 --> 09:57:36,450
Council can then decide through budget,

4562
09:57:36,750 --> 09:57:38,670
the extent, and pace of implementation.

4563
09:57:40,490 --> 09:57:40,850
Next slide.

4564
09:57:42,730 --> 09:57:45,970
Thank you, and we would be pleased to answer any questions you may have.

4565
09:57:49,440 --> 09:57:53,680
Thank you, and we now have some speakers.

4566
09:57:54,460 --> 09:57:56,100
I'm going to just do a double check.

4567
09:57:56,240 --> 09:57:57,840
I'm guessing all of them are virtual.

4568
09:57:58,020 --> 09:58:00,560
If they're here, Mike Melrose.

4569
09:58:03,260 --> 09:58:05,880
Perfect. Dad Nielsen.

4570
09:58:09,590 --> 09:58:13,970
Yeah, I'm here but I don't need to do a presentation. I can just answer questions as needed.

4571
09:58:14,890 --> 09:58:20,610
Sure, it's totally up to you. Well, we'll see you all here and we'll come back. You can decide then. Jesse Watson.

4572
09:58:20,610 --> 09:58:24,470
Good evening. Heather McKenzie.

4573
09:58:27,920 --> 09:58:30,280
Present. Thank you.

4574
09:58:30,920 --> 09:58:34,040
Preet King. Hello.

4575
09:58:36,360 --> 09:58:39,720
Raff, tender, anda.

4576
09:58:40,460 --> 09:58:41,260
Yes, here.

4577
09:58:41,540 --> 09:58:43,160
You think I would have brought your name by now?

4578
09:58:43,720 --> 09:58:44,880
Right. I'm Bob Sol.

4579
09:58:45,160 --> 09:58:46,340
Sorry, Raff.

4580
09:58:46,740 --> 09:58:48,420
Lori Lynn. Greg Guar.

4581
09:58:49,640 --> 09:58:50,440
Thank you.

4582
09:58:50,760 --> 09:58:51,180
Perfect.

4583
09:58:52,120 --> 09:58:53,060
And Joshua Buck.

4584
09:58:55,260 --> 09:58:59,680
Um, I'm speaking instead of Joshua Buck, Mariam Tuley.

4585
09:59:00,580 --> 09:59:02,560
Just like to, I'll just go to the...

4586
09:59:03,680 --> 09:59:05,740
Do we need...

4587
09:59:05,740 --> 09:59:11,320
Yeah, we probably need a name, and if you'd like to accept the new person,

4588
09:59:11,620 --> 09:59:13,620
or you'd go on it, like to, would...

4589
09:59:13,620 --> 09:59:15,060
I think I mean...

4590
09:59:16,400 --> 09:59:17,080
Just a sec.

4591
09:59:25,200 --> 09:59:26,240
Um, yeah, we'll...

4592
09:59:26,240 --> 09:59:28,840
We'll move to hear from that speaker in place of Joshua.

4593
09:59:30,970 --> 09:59:32,410
Please vote on hearing from that speaker.

4594
09:59:40,390 --> 09:59:44,390
We can just ask the speaker to, you know...

4595
09:59:44,390 --> 09:59:49,550
I think it's just in the, is it? Is that your name in the, in the, on your religious?

4596
09:59:50,170 --> 09:59:54,890
So yeah, M-A-R-I-M-M-M... Can you say a lot of it?

4597
09:59:55,030 --> 09:59:55,310
Jelly, jelly?

4598
09:59:58,210 --> 09:59:59,590
Did I say it right?

4599
10:00:01,060 --> 10:00:02,660
It's a lily at the end.

4600
10:00:02,680 --> 10:00:03,280
Oh, lily.

4601
10:00:06,530 --> 10:00:07,450
It's not that important.

4602
10:00:08,110 --> 10:00:12,190
Either way, we can, we have that motion.

4603
10:00:32,610 --> 10:00:33,650
Okay, please vote.

4604
10:00:41,420 --> 10:00:42,360
We have all the votes.

4605
10:00:42,540 --> 10:00:43,860
Please display the votes.

4606
10:00:47,060 --> 10:00:47,960
And that is carried.

4607
10:00:48,920 --> 10:00:53,100
Okay, sorry for the formalities that that's what we need to do to have it on public record.

4608
10:00:53,260 --> 10:00:58,100
So I will, everybody's here. Well, again, thank you everyone for joining us this evening

4609
10:00:58,100 --> 10:01:02,600
and coming back to be heard.

4610
10:01:03,200 --> 10:01:04,260
So we'll start with Mike.

4611
10:01:04,380 --> 10:01:06,600
You have three minutes, please go ahead.

4612
10:01:08,040 --> 10:01:09,080
Oh, thank you, good evening.

4613
10:01:09,980 --> 10:01:13,640
I'm Mike Naur on the vice president of the Alberta Eucharist Foundation.

4614
10:01:14,140 --> 10:01:17,900
Alberta Eucharist operates at Minton's Low Carbon Cities Canada Center.

4615
10:01:18,240 --> 10:01:22,700
Alberta's Retrific Accelerator and we convene Alberta's emissions neutral buildings

4616
10:01:22,700 --> 10:01:26,880
information exchange, which is an industry capacity building organization that's focused

4617
10:01:26,880 --> 10:01:32,920
on low carbon construction. First, we believe that Edmonton cannot divert from the path to carbon

4618
10:01:32,920 --> 10:01:38,440
neutrality as committed to emits community energy transition strategy. And city buildings

4619
10:01:38,440 --> 10:01:43,720
alone, as we've heard, are nearly 50% of the city's corporate emissions. So, trying

4620
10:01:43,720 --> 10:01:48,700
for high performance standards really must continue. And the pursuit of other measures should

4621
10:01:48,700 --> 10:01:55,180
also continue. That said, we understand why the SROIs introduced here as a tool. The SROI will

4622
10:01:55,180 --> 10:02:00,640
allow the city to evaluate societal cost of benefits, which are really important, beyond the

4623
10:02:00,640 --> 10:02:05,220
building itself, thereby considering the overall public good in addition to financial

4624
10:02:05,220 --> 10:02:05,820
viability.

4625
10:02:06,680 --> 10:02:10,640
And this, you know, formerly evaluates the trade-offs, the real world trade-offs.

4626
10:02:10,980 --> 10:02:16,380
We believe that the ongoing use of this tool is a prudent, replicable, and defensible way

4627
10:02:16,380 --> 10:02:21,500
to keep leading the market in high performance, climate-resilient buildings, by creating

4628
10:02:21,500 --> 10:02:24,800
on the evidence-based lens that acknowledges other policy outcomes.

4629
10:02:25,680 --> 10:02:27,240
And for us, this really isn't theoretical

4630
10:02:27,860 --> 10:02:29,480
through our retrofitting accelerator,

4631
10:02:29,840 --> 10:02:31,540
which we've operated for the last three years.

4632
10:02:32,020 --> 10:02:33,280
We've learned this lesson as well.

4633
10:02:33,860 --> 10:02:36,900
And the decarbonization is absolutely the destination,

4634
10:02:37,280 --> 10:02:40,880
but it is clear that pathway to decarbonation

4635
10:02:40,880 --> 10:02:43,100
to be viable has to be staged and faced

4636
10:02:43,100 --> 10:02:45,720
reflecting economic realities and the pace

4637
10:02:45,720 --> 10:02:47,420
of change that the market can absorb.

4638
10:02:48,280 --> 10:02:49,680
Building owners who try to do everything

4639
10:02:49,680 --> 10:02:52,740
are often paralysed into doing nothing at all.

4640
10:02:53,080 --> 10:02:57,120
Through our index program, we work directly with the private sector and we know the industry,

4641
10:02:57,680 --> 10:03:00,640
including owner and operators, want to move more in this direction.

4642
10:03:01,420 --> 10:03:04,700
We're seeing that potential long-term cost effect in this of these investments.

4643
10:03:05,260 --> 10:03:08,760
However, the reality is the market readiness now, but it is still nascent,

4644
10:03:08,960 --> 10:03:11,920
and the leadership the city can provide is very necessary.

4645
10:03:13,540 --> 10:03:17,160
Because this climate design policy does not just influence civic accommodations,

4646
10:03:17,160 --> 10:03:23,320
It actually sets a bar at least the transformation of our design and construction sector here in Edmonton.

4647
10:03:24,720 --> 10:03:28,060
But we need to learn from what you're doing, but it's to be meaningful to the market.

4648
10:03:28,320 --> 10:03:33,920
So we ask the city to commit to publishing the data and analysis behind each of these decisions, not just the outcomes,

4649
10:03:34,640 --> 10:03:36,960
so that we can see how the thinking has changed the decision.

4650
10:03:38,000 --> 10:03:41,360
We also believe adoption of the climate resilience target is also a great start.

4651
10:03:41,360 --> 10:03:45,780
and from our analysis, the target is aligned with how other key municipalities are tackling

4652
10:03:45,780 --> 10:03:52,740
this and addressing tracking resilience, really what we can assert is that climate action

4653
10:03:52,740 --> 10:03:58,640
at its heart is economic development and a city that can pursue these things because of

4654
10:03:58,640 --> 10:04:03,640
marketable city that attracts business and talent and into the future of a carbon economy.

4655
10:04:03,940 --> 10:04:08,900
So we asked the council and community support, what we proposed here and we look forward to learning

4656
10:04:08,900 --> 10:04:12,740
from the data collected from this work in sharing the learned industry wide.

4657
10:04:13,160 --> 10:04:14,000
Thank you.

4658
10:04:14,080 --> 10:04:14,740
Thank you.

4659
10:04:15,340 --> 10:04:16,380
Dad Nielsen.

4660
10:04:20,100 --> 10:04:20,560
Well, we're good.

4661
10:04:20,740 --> 10:04:21,040
Thank you.

4662
10:04:21,040 --> 10:04:21,700
Oh yeah, that's right.

4663
10:04:22,600 --> 10:04:23,740
The prepared answer questions.

4664
10:04:24,540 --> 10:04:25,260
So anyways, questions.

4665
10:04:25,900 --> 10:04:26,300
Jesse Watson.

4666
10:04:29,640 --> 10:04:29,840
Great.

4667
10:04:29,900 --> 10:04:30,440
Hey, guys.

4668
10:04:31,040 --> 10:04:32,260
Yeah, my name is Jesse Watson.

4669
10:04:33,240 --> 10:04:36,980
I'm here today to formally urge the committee to actually reject an end recommendation

4670
10:04:36,980 --> 10:04:39,320
of no one improving the policy change.

4671
10:04:39,900 --> 10:04:43,180
I fundamentally believe that whatever we put into the environment must be managed and

4672
10:04:43,180 --> 10:04:48,200
set in the real sustainable way. If we pollute a river, we have a basic duty to clean it up.

4673
10:04:48,500 --> 10:04:53,360
But as a city, we have to be realistic about what a municipal government can actually achieve.

4674
10:04:53,880 --> 10:04:58,320
Rather than piling symbolic costs on to local taxpayers without fixing an underlying problem.

4675
10:04:58,960 --> 10:05:02,600
Look at the international policies and the UK aggressive meds, your mandates,

4676
10:05:03,200 --> 10:05:09,180
search and industrial electricity prices, 46% on the international averages, driving

4677
10:05:09,180 --> 10:05:12,900
It's your production down 46% in costing the economy billions.

4678
10:05:13,620 --> 10:05:16,580
They didn't eliminate carbon, they price their local industry and also are manufacturing

4679
10:05:16,580 --> 10:05:17,200
to China.

4680
10:05:17,680 --> 10:05:21,300
We're trying to generate the UK's entire annual carbon footprint less than 12 days.

4681
10:05:21,880 --> 10:05:27,000
We see the same disconnect locally with our single-use item by law, plastic bags, distribute,

4682
10:05:28,080 --> 10:05:32,540
distribution dropped 80%, but that's not, that's common sense when you ban something.

4683
10:05:32,960 --> 10:05:35,180
Where is the actual quantified environmental outcome?

4684
10:05:35,180 --> 10:05:39,140
The city hasn't measured life cycle carbon savings or processing efficiency.

4685
10:05:39,960 --> 10:05:45,520
In fact, take a container, waste search over 75%, we force citizens to pay extra for

4686
10:05:45,520 --> 10:05:50,180
paper bags that take more energy produced with zero proof it cleaned up our environment.

4687
10:05:50,780 --> 10:05:53,040
Now we see the exact same pattern with building policies.

4688
10:05:53,160 --> 10:05:56,920
We will far hauls with extensive solar arrays that are sometimes set disconnected.

4689
10:05:57,560 --> 10:06:02,540
We spend millions on internal climate initiatives, like sensory plays, who are secondary

4690
10:06:02,540 --> 10:06:07,240
mechanical system was installed years ago to hit some kind of environmental metric, yet we

4691
10:06:07,240 --> 10:06:11,360
are still running the original equipment. So we're running sealed mechanical systems at the same

4692
10:06:11,360 --> 10:06:17,280
time in our biggest building. We make these coffee decisions but we never turn or return back to

4693
10:06:17,280 --> 10:06:22,200
take accountability for our own failures and policy. Most concerning today, however, is how this

4694
10:06:22,200 --> 10:06:32,520
policy shift is being justified. This report relies on a survey of just 1,000 people in a

4695
10:06:32,520 --> 10:06:37,540
That's 77% is an M&10, that's 772 respondents.

4696
10:06:38,080 --> 10:06:43,840
To frame a sample size of 700ish people as a sweeping democratic mandate to shift municipal

4697
10:06:43,840 --> 10:06:46,180
policy is completely irrelevant.

4698
10:06:46,440 --> 10:06:52,140
Furthermore, the report varies the fact that 42% actively oppose paying a tax level for climate

4699
10:06:52,140 --> 10:06:59,460
action while introducing an SRI or I calculation that their own report admits relies on and

4700
10:06:59,460 --> 10:07:01,200
I quote subjective methodologies.

4701
10:07:01,200 --> 10:07:05,360
Instead of approving this report, I urge a member of this committee to move to refer

4702
10:07:05,360 --> 10:07:09,860
it back to administration, direct staff to hold worldwide-world town halls, partnering

4703
10:07:09,860 --> 10:07:14,920
with key community leads, and present her data on real-world outcomes, like the proven

4704
10:07:14,920 --> 10:07:20,200
financial impacts of an emissions-zero bus barn, or for asking taxpayers to support it.

4705
10:07:20,480 --> 10:07:26,160
If administration is truly confident that 700 people represent a genuine consensus, but major

4706
10:07:26,160 --> 10:07:29,900
decisions like a net zero boss bond to a direct public vote.

4707
10:07:30,000 --> 10:07:36,000
Put it on the ballot and prove us wrong. Please reject the report, table, that, but we're in a full motion. Thank you.

4708
10:07:36,960 --> 10:07:37,500
Heather McKenzie,

4709
10:07:42,560 --> 10:07:43,480
Heather McKenzie, Heather McKenzie.

4710
10:07:44,920 --> 10:07:47,060
In, Heather McKenzie, hello, can you hear me?

4711
10:07:47,360 --> 10:07:49,120
Sorry, you just, you just, can you hear me?

4712
10:07:49,560 --> 10:07:52,160
You're a little bit delayed, so I was a bit of my leg, but go for it.

4713
10:07:54,580 --> 10:07:56,800
Okay, if I'm all right now, then I'll get started.

4714
10:07:58,050 --> 10:08:02,070
According to the McKenzie and I'm the Executive Director of Solar Alberta,

4715
10:08:02,470 --> 10:08:08,870
the Alberta's nonprofit society dedicated to accelerating Alberta's transition to adjust and sustainable energy future.

4716
10:08:09,290 --> 10:08:14,890
Our membership includes over 177 individuals, solar and business and micro generators,

4717
10:08:15,530 --> 10:08:19,110
as well as over 110 solar-related businesses.

4718
10:08:19,410 --> 10:08:25,350
We've been in operations since 1991, and we have over 36,500 followers.

4719
10:08:25,350 --> 10:08:34,390
And here today to speak in opposition to the new version of the climate resilience policy for completely different reasons than the previous speaker.

4720
10:08:35,070 --> 10:08:41,130
Rather than watering down the policy further, we believe significant improvements need to be made.

4721
10:08:41,490 --> 10:08:51,070
As outlined on pages 63 and 66 in the report, the new policy focus on needing to ensure a positive return on investment

4722
10:08:51,070 --> 10:09:07,370
It enables the city of Edmonton to ignore buildings that are heavy emitters, walking in high emissions for the lifetime of the building, or downloading significant retrofit costs on to future amenities just to save a few bucks today.

4723
10:09:08,050 --> 10:09:18,730
Although there is nothing, oh, also, there is nothing in the document that leads to the solar-ready borough, which we have been told for all over two years is under development.

4724
10:09:18,730 --> 10:09:25,170
And if all the body by law is extremely low hanging fruit to support the goal of emissions

4725
10:09:25,170 --> 10:09:27,210
neutral buildings in Edmonton.

4726
10:09:27,770 --> 10:09:32,910
The solar body by law is taking too long, we urge the city to move quicker on this item

4727
10:09:32,910 --> 10:09:37,890
as it is a wonderful way to save Edmontonians money and will not cost the city anything.

4728
10:09:38,730 --> 10:09:43,530
The final point I would like to make today is that the proposed new process of needing

4729
10:09:43,530 --> 10:09:51,070
to ensure a positive return on investment will be unnecessarily complex and will take longer

4730
10:09:51,070 --> 10:09:57,610
than a typical cost benefit analysis. This unnecessarily long and complex new process means

4731
10:09:57,610 --> 10:10:02,330
that the seed of medicine will waste time and money on a new process that could be spent

4732
10:10:02,330 --> 10:10:08,830
on retrofits and will currently miss meeting our 50% emissions reduction target by 2030.

4733
10:10:08,830 --> 10:10:17,930
This Council has given multiple mandates for its administration to be ambitious with respect to climate action.

4734
10:10:18,790 --> 10:10:24,610
Both from a climate adaptation standpoint and also from many missions reduction perspective.

4735
10:10:25,350 --> 10:10:34,650
Given the number of ways that we have seen on emission, neutral buildings, and the reduced ambition that we are seeing time and time again

4736
10:10:34,650 --> 10:10:40,850
And in this policy and other recommendations coming forward is increasingly feeling like

4737
10:10:40,850 --> 10:10:45,590
there are some within the administration who are intentionally working against the direction

4738
10:10:45,590 --> 10:10:48,610
of our council in an undemocratic way.

4739
10:10:48,810 --> 10:10:49,650
Thank you.

4740
10:10:50,910 --> 10:10:51,450
Thank you.

4741
10:10:53,250 --> 10:10:54,770
Please go ahead.

4742
10:10:54,990 --> 10:10:55,310
Good evening.

4743
10:10:55,890 --> 10:10:56,890
Good evening.

4744
10:10:57,050 --> 10:11:00,710
My name is Precaring and I speak about behalf of Solar Operator as well as the Operator

4745
10:11:00,710 --> 10:11:01,710
that Environmental Network.

4746
10:11:01,710 --> 10:11:06,170
I want to begin by recognizing the importance of the new community adaptation target.

4747
10:11:06,630 --> 10:11:09,970
And the team is already experiencing the impacts of achieving climate and strengthening

4748
10:11:09,970 --> 10:11:12,130
our ability to prepare its necessary.

4749
10:11:12,670 --> 10:11:15,490
But adaptation on emissions reduction have to move forward together.

4750
10:11:15,990 --> 10:11:20,950
That is why I'm concerned about how sustainable we're turning on investment or SROI is being

4751
10:11:20,950 --> 10:11:22,650
incorporated into the revised policy.

4752
10:11:23,170 --> 10:11:27,110
The report knows that buildings account for approximately 7% of the sea's corporate

4753
10:11:27,110 --> 10:11:30,410
and that emissions control buildings are critical to

4754
10:11:30,410 --> 10:11:34,550
the advantage of transition goals. Yet under the proposed policy,

4755
10:11:34,790 --> 10:11:37,210
climate resilience requirements would only be incorporated to the

4756
10:11:37,210 --> 10:11:40,730
point where a positive SROI is demonstrated. The more challenging

4757
10:11:40,730 --> 10:11:43,490
building types, that can be implemented only some requirements.

4758
10:11:44,190 --> 10:11:47,010
The report itself identifies the risk. This approach could lock

4759
10:11:47,010 --> 10:11:50,050
emissions for the lifetime of a building, making them more difficult and

4760
10:11:50,050 --> 10:11:52,950
expensive to eliminate later. That is particularly concerning

4761
10:11:52,950 --> 10:11:56,090
when the city remains committed to reducing emissions by 50% by

4762
10:11:56,090 --> 10:11:58,430
2030 and becoming cognitive so by 2050.

4763
10:11:59,290 --> 10:12:01,450
So my primary recommendation is this.

4764
10:12:01,650 --> 10:12:04,210
These SLRI to determine the most cost-effective way

4765
10:12:04,210 --> 10:12:06,110
to achieve any of these climate objectives,

4766
10:12:06,630 --> 10:12:09,110
not to determine whether those objectives should be achieved.

4767
10:12:09,930 --> 10:12:11,970
The reports have a medical father station example,

4768
10:12:12,110 --> 10:12:13,050
shows why this matters.

4769
10:12:13,310 --> 10:12:16,110
Designed to use reduced C627 related costs

4770
10:12:16,110 --> 10:12:19,030
by approximately 1.1 million, nearly 30%

4771
10:12:19,030 --> 10:12:20,950
while still maintaining emissions neutrality.

4772
10:12:21,350 --> 10:12:22,510
That is the type of optimization

4773
10:12:22,510 --> 10:12:25,070
we should pursue before rolling environmental outcomes.

4774
10:12:25,070 --> 10:12:28,870
where initiatives and priorities and organizations cannot be achieved, it should remain an exception.

4775
10:12:29,270 --> 10:12:34,930
Councils should know what emissions are being left behind, the long-term impact, the cost of the addressing them later,

4776
10:12:35,090 --> 10:12:37,730
and how the city intends to address that emissions gap elsewhere.

4777
10:12:38,250 --> 10:12:46,450
I'm also concerned that the revised policy removes the requirement for an independent advisory committee to counsel following the dissolution of the energy transition and climate resilience committee.

4778
10:12:46,450 --> 10:12:55,210
I would ask committee what governance mechanism will increase the ETRC, the ETCRC as a council appointed source of committee public interest and technical expertise.

4779
10:12:55,810 --> 10:13:01,450
I support the overall direction of the review, but I do want to recommend a approval of C627B.

4780
10:13:02,530 --> 10:13:10,410
As currently returned without amendments that ensure SROI is used to optimize how the city achieves its kind of objectives rather than as a reason to lower those objectives.

4781
10:13:10,410 --> 10:13:13,990
that preserves an independent council-appointed source of climate expertise

4782
10:13:13,990 --> 10:13:18,030
following the distillation of the ECCRC and that required that that

4783
10:13:18,030 --> 10:13:22,130
that required transparent reporting whenever climate requirements are not met.

4784
10:13:22,810 --> 10:13:27,230
I also want to recognize seat as an important example of practical climate action that helps

4785
10:13:27,230 --> 10:13:30,930
add into Canadians invested in energy efficiency, resilience, and renewable energy.

4786
10:13:31,250 --> 10:13:34,650
Finally, I encourage the city to move forward with the solar ready by law.

4787
10:13:34,930 --> 10:13:38,570
Designing the building, so solar Canadians do all more easily in the future is a low

4788
10:13:40,390 --> 10:13:46,110
I would encourage community to ask an illustration for a clear timeline for bringing those requirements forward.

4789
10:13:46,550 --> 10:13:47,650
Thank you very much.

4790
10:13:48,950 --> 10:13:49,490
Thank you.

4791
10:13:50,030 --> 10:13:51,690
And now we will go to Wrath.

4792
10:13:53,370 --> 10:13:54,450
Good evening again.

4793
10:13:54,830 --> 10:13:55,790
Chair and members of the committee.

4794
10:13:56,070 --> 10:13:57,370
My name is Wrath Kendraindov.

4795
10:13:57,450 --> 10:13:59,070
I'm the president of the committee.

4796
10:13:59,870 --> 10:14:05,650
I like to speak specifically about climate, prepared infrastructure and proactive risk management,

4797
10:14:05,650 --> 10:14:10,810
commitments in the proposed climate, resilience policy, the policy talks book, climate,

4798
10:14:11,070 --> 10:14:15,650
prepared infrastructure, reducing mobility, and proactively identifying risks.

4799
10:14:16,010 --> 10:14:18,310
I strongly support that direction.

4800
10:14:18,950 --> 10:14:23,950
The failure at horseshoe Creek in 137th Avenue, having to sum up, provides an important

4801
10:14:23,950 --> 10:14:29,050
real world example of why infrastructure risks need to be considered beyond simply

4802
10:14:29,050 --> 10:14:30,930
who owns a particular asset.

4803
10:14:30,930 --> 10:14:36,550
The Colby Network should creak as an app called drainage asset, but when that failed, that

4804
10:14:36,550 --> 10:14:42,010
asked a bail of the consequences extended directly to city infrastructure, including

4805
10:14:42,010 --> 10:14:48,970
137 of the multi-use pathway in the pedestrian crossing, that demonstrates how interconnected

4806
10:14:48,970 --> 10:14:50,470
these systems are.

4807
10:14:50,690 --> 10:14:55,590
The policy proposals use a climate risk and vulnerability assessments to guide infrastructure

4808
10:14:55,590 --> 10:14:59,970
investment and renewal decisions. So I was respectfully asked one of the

4809
10:15:00,000 --> 10:15:10,480
The city assesses risk to its infrastructure, originating, interconnected, at court infrastructure being captured as well. That's not I believe they should be.

4810
10:15:10,840 --> 10:15:19,440
I would encourage the city and at court to develop a risk-based inventory of drainage infrastructure where a failure could significantly affect city-owned assets.

4811
10:15:19,440 --> 10:15:25,880
That could include undersized or vulnerable culverts, like on 37th and Warshu Creek, Storm and

4812
10:15:25,880 --> 10:15:28,620
Sanctuary mainlines and mammals and also trunk clients.

4813
10:15:29,060 --> 10:15:33,120
We're fingers going to affect girls, but it is building sidewalks, bullties, pathways, and

4814
10:15:33,120 --> 10:15:34,400
other significant infrastructure.

4815
10:15:35,060 --> 10:15:38,900
That does not need every drainage asset represents the same level risk.

4816
10:15:39,220 --> 10:15:43,240
At risk based approach with identified locations where likelihood and consequences are

4817
10:15:43,240 --> 10:15:48,580
the highest, allowing inspections prevent the maintenance, rehab and replacement to be prioritized

4818
10:15:48,580 --> 10:15:52,980
accordingly, portion creeps should be used as a case study in a learning opportunity.

4819
10:15:53,800 --> 10:15:59,300
We have now seen how what can happen when the failure of F-quart, drainage, asset,

4820
10:15:59,400 --> 10:16:01,980
effects, and entire transportation corridor.

4821
10:16:02,720 --> 10:16:07,660
So the question I will leave through a committee, where else in M-thin could this happen,

4822
10:16:08,360 --> 10:16:13,840
are we identifying these locations early enough, particularly where F-quart utility infrastructure

4823
10:16:13,840 --> 10:16:15,460
and setting infrastructure are connected?

4824
10:16:15,460 --> 10:16:24,160
I recognize that the city is already moving forward on proactive risk assessment and considering the full cycle cost and benefits of infrastructure investments.

4825
10:16:24,740 --> 10:16:28,200
My request is that the city also works.

4826
10:16:28,500 --> 10:16:38,880
Consider risk that originate outside the city ownership, where the consequences of failure could fall heavily on city roads, city owned buildings, bridges, and pathways.

4827
10:16:38,880 --> 10:16:43,740
or should creep gives the real, gives us a real example of why that matters.

4828
10:16:44,340 --> 10:16:45,180
Thank you.

4829
10:16:47,050 --> 10:16:48,010
Thank you.

4830
10:16:48,590 --> 10:16:51,690
And now we will go to Lori Lim.

4831
10:16:57,840 --> 10:16:58,500
Thank you.

4832
10:17:00,420 --> 10:17:06,080
I'm going to call the manager at the University of Alberta Properties Trust.

4833
10:17:06,460 --> 10:17:09,600
And speaking, today, I'm a half of the panel of Edmonton Metro.

4834
10:17:09,600 --> 10:17:16,260
We'll start presenting some more than 500 companies involved in residential, commercial, and industrial development to customers in Indonesia.

4835
10:17:17,620 --> 10:17:21,600
We'll suppose that the closed updates to climate resilience policy C627A,

4836
10:17:22,520 --> 10:17:28,820
budgetary shift to our greater flexibility in the use of a sustainable return and investment for the SROI approach.

4837
10:17:29,640 --> 10:17:34,260
We believe this approach will help the city focus investments where they deliver the greatest overall benefit.

4838
10:17:34,260 --> 10:17:39,660
Rather than you line on one prescribed solution for the project, the SMLR framework allows

4839
10:17:39,660 --> 10:17:44,760
decision makers to evaluate climate, social, financial outcomes and select measures

4840
10:17:44,760 --> 10:17:47,660
that provide the best value for a specific project.

4841
10:17:48,220 --> 10:17:53,700
We also support the principal right size and infrastructure in climate resilience investments.

4842
10:17:54,120 --> 10:17:57,360
From both of the fiscal and environmental perspectives, it's important that infrastructure

4843
10:17:57,360 --> 10:17:58,720
is scaled appropriately.

4844
10:17:58,720 --> 10:18:04,000
When investments are aligned with project needs, we can reduce unnecessary costs, improve

4845
10:18:04,000 --> 10:18:09,020
long-term efficiency, and our limited public and private users toward actions that achieve

4846
10:18:09,020 --> 10:18:10,260
the greatest impact.

4847
10:18:11,100 --> 10:18:15,740
The import provides a strong example of the best, optimizing the design of that hypothetical

4848
10:18:15,740 --> 10:18:19,660
fire station, the city is able to reduce policyability, construction costs, all in

4849
10:18:19,660 --> 10:18:20,000
programming.

4850
10:18:21,140 --> 10:18:27,040
Well, so many maintaining emissions neutral outcomes, this demonstrates flexibility, and

4851
10:18:27,040 --> 10:18:31,980
can focus decision making, can achieve environmental objectives cost effectively.

4852
10:18:32,700 --> 10:18:37,300
We also encourage Council to recognize that policy adoption is a lid of first step

4853
10:18:37,560 --> 10:18:41,860
to achieve the desired outcome. Climate resilience measures must be practical

4854
10:18:41,860 --> 10:18:47,280
and economical achieveable within the realities of development and redevelopment.

4855
10:18:47,800 --> 10:18:51,820
The requirements that are really prescribed are disproportionate to project circumstances

4856
10:18:51,820 --> 10:18:57,360
This can increase costs, delay investment, and in some cases prevent projects for moving forward

4857
10:18:57,360 --> 10:18:58,220
all the better.

4858
10:18:58,860 --> 10:19:02,420
When there happens, it becomes more difficult to achieve both the climate and the broader

4859
10:19:02,420 --> 10:19:03,620
city development objectives.

4860
10:19:04,460 --> 10:19:10,060
The proposed SLR, I approach as part of the positive step, because it allows requirements

4861
10:19:10,060 --> 10:19:15,060
to reflect the main characteristics of each project, associated with the city's climate

4862
10:19:15,060 --> 10:19:15,560
goals.

4863
10:19:16,120 --> 10:19:20,680
The support also reminds us feedback received through the city's engagement process, including

4864
10:19:20,680 --> 10:19:26,600
feedback from Dell members, which emphasises the importance of flexibility in practical implementation.

4865
10:19:27,980 --> 10:19:32,580
Both supports the proposed direction and encourages the city to continue to take a

4866
10:19:32,580 --> 10:19:35,700
pragmatic outcome based approach as this policy is implemented.

4867
10:19:36,920 --> 10:19:41,160
We believe that the intended event of climate resilience will also support housing supply,

4868
10:19:41,640 --> 10:19:43,940
redevelopment, investment and economic growth.

4869
10:19:44,440 --> 10:19:49,160
The sheathment bonds will require ambition, affordability, practicality, and a continued focus

4870
10:19:51,260 --> 10:19:51,780
Thank

4871
10:19:54,370 --> 10:20:04,570
you very much, and now we will go to Miriam, and I did just receive clarification from the clerks that they did receive an email.

4872
10:20:04,670 --> 10:20:13,630
They just hadn't seen it yet, saying that you could speak on behalf of Joshua, so just please your preference to have your name registered or to speak on behalf.

4873
10:20:14,330 --> 10:20:16,230
How would you like that recorded in the public minutes?

4874
10:20:16,230 --> 10:20:23,070
I, I, doesn't matter. I can have my name registered. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you.

4875
10:20:23,590 --> 10:20:24,710
So, please go ahead.

4876
10:20:26,250 --> 10:20:32,730
Okay. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Maim Jolie. I work as an architect on led zero and energy

4877
10:20:32,730 --> 10:20:38,390
efficient building and projects in Alberta. And I want to appreciate the climate

4878
10:20:38,390 --> 10:20:43,990
adaptation is being prioritized and expanded to neighborhood seas policy. Building a

4879
10:20:43,990 --> 10:20:48,230
silency into the infrastructure, preparing for floods, sea waves, and extreme weather that

4880
10:20:48,230 --> 10:20:53,630
we're already experiencing. This is an essential work and it's encouraging to see that move forward.

4881
10:20:54,270 --> 10:20:59,110
But I also mean the caution that adaptation is only half of the picture, as we strengthen

4882
10:20:59,110 --> 10:21:04,170
our resilience measures, we cannot afford to let climate mitigation slip down the coronavirus.

4883
10:21:04,830 --> 10:21:09,210
Without mitigation, we are just building higher walls against the changing climate and

4884
10:21:09,210 --> 10:21:16,010
addressing the boot cost. This matters directly for how we treat our serial building. It can be

4885
10:21:16,010 --> 10:21:21,550
tempting, especially in a tight budget year, to shave 10 or 15 percent off the project up from

4886
10:21:21,550 --> 10:21:28,290
cost by pulling back on environmental performances. But those are false savings. A building

4887
10:21:28,290 --> 10:21:34,330
constructed to a lower standard becomes a retrofit liability, and even in some cases, as these

4888
10:21:34,330 --> 10:21:39,490
can become stranded assets entirely, dislikes in a level of emission that

4889
10:21:39,490 --> 10:21:46,310
pisses for the lifetime of the building and is far more costly, the cost,

4890
10:21:46,310 --> 10:21:51,830
the cost that taxpayers will have to pay. We've also worked in better-fitting existing

4891
10:21:51,830 --> 10:21:57,110
buildings and we see how complex this work is, it takes a long time with a lot of

4892
10:21:57,110 --> 10:22:02,530
risks on cost increases and you're trying to retrofit buildings and there is already a

4893
10:22:02,530 --> 10:22:07,470
start of existing buildings that need to be retrofitted. So we don't need to add to that.

4894
10:22:08,430 --> 10:22:15,130
It is interesting to see that the policy proposes to add an SRI procedure into the process

4895
10:22:15,130 --> 10:22:22,050
to reflect the full picture. It is important to reflect environmental costs and build it into the

4896
10:22:22,050 --> 10:22:29,750
analysis as well as cost of carbon and social costs. But at the same time, I want to caution

4897
10:22:30,000 --> 10:22:41,680
To overengineering this policy, I don't think simplicity and emission neutral requirement need to be intention. The key is separating the outcome from the mission from the method.

4898
10:22:42,320 --> 10:22:53,000
Emissions neutral should stay a firm requirement for every new city building state that clearly in the policy itself. And not something that SRI can decide away.

4899
10:22:53,000 --> 10:23:01,120
As I should be used to determine the most cost effective path and not if the outcome applies at all.

4900
10:23:02,920 --> 10:23:12,440
The report mentions that they did find savings, 30% savings, but can be achieved while still achieving emissions neutrality in the building.

4901
10:23:12,440 --> 10:23:20,260
So keeping the process simple, with a fixed social cost of carbon, pre-approved technology pathways.

4902
10:23:20,800 --> 10:23:24,800
So it functions as a quick screening tool, not a custom study for every project,

4903
10:23:25,780 --> 10:23:30,880
and exceptions should stay reserved for general and typical buildings as originally intended.

4904
10:23:31,220 --> 10:23:32,800
Rather than becoming an office.

4905
10:23:33,040 --> 10:23:33,380
Sorry.

4906
10:23:33,720 --> 10:23:34,100
Thank you.

4907
10:23:34,360 --> 10:23:35,180
That's okay.

4908
10:23:36,500 --> 10:23:40,440
I were doing a bit shorter today, but thank you so much.

4909
10:23:40,440 --> 10:23:48,680
And now we will go to questions of our public speakers. Does anyone have any questions to our

4910
10:23:49,320 --> 10:23:52,420
members of the public? Councillor Salvador, please go ahead.

4911
10:23:53,960 --> 10:23:59,320
Yeah, thank you. And thanks to the speakers for being here and staying so late with us.

4912
10:24:00,680 --> 10:24:10,280
Yeah, maybe I'll direct this to speaker who McKenzie and others could potentially jump in as well

4913
10:24:10,900 --> 10:24:21,440
I guess the thing that I'm also struggling with is like what the SROI methodology would be and what that would look like.

4914
10:24:22,600 --> 10:24:28,940
I'm wondering if you can comment on that piece and I guess what you would expect to see.

4915
10:24:29,700 --> 10:24:38,100
Well, if you go in this direction, we'd expect to see a calculator which would be all of a big job to produce and I don't think you want to go there.

4916
10:24:38,100 --> 10:24:45,160
But that's the expectation people would have, if you want to go that road and you need a public calculator and you need all the data.

4917
10:24:46,060 --> 10:24:48,020
And a lot of that I'm going to be subjective.

4918
10:24:49,180 --> 10:24:51,860
Ultimately, you're just getting away from the emissions neutral.

4919
10:24:52,340 --> 10:24:57,280
I mean, ultimately here I heard a men say they basically have shift all language completely.

4920
10:24:57,560 --> 10:24:58,880
They're just talking about low emissions.

4921
10:24:59,160 --> 10:25:03,300
They're not talking about what council has directed them to do, which is emissions neutrality.

4922
10:25:03,900 --> 10:25:07,160
So they've already shifted the language, which means they're shifting their ambition,

4923
10:25:07,160 --> 10:25:12,540
which is really disappointing to hear. And yeah, you need to put a lot of work

4924
10:25:12,540 --> 10:25:19,000
in secreting a calculator for us, I think. Also, just wanted to mention

4925
10:25:20,080 --> 10:25:28,760
there was a comment about in the report about getting rid of the committee. I heard from a committee

4926
10:25:28,760 --> 10:25:34,380
member recently who said, oh, so cake is you have admissions, neutral building, advisory group. I just

4927
10:25:34,380 --> 10:25:40,260
make sure everyone here knows we need once a year. I'm on that group. We don't make any decisions,

4928
10:25:40,520 --> 10:25:45,840
we don't make any recommendations. We don't actually vote on anything and we need maybe once

4929
10:25:45,840 --> 10:25:50,280
maxed twice a year. So it is not of a placement for what you're losing today.

4930
10:25:50,900 --> 10:25:57,920
Thank you for that. And maybe just to marry him as well. I wanted to get a few people's perspectives on

4931
10:25:57,920 --> 10:26:03,260
just around SROI and what you would be expecting to see.

4932
10:26:06,440 --> 10:26:12,120
Yeah, so I think, like Heda mentioned, this is a very new complex process.

4933
10:26:13,460 --> 10:26:18,080
And an illustration is already struggling trying to implement emissions neutral buildings,

4934
10:26:18,280 --> 10:26:24,520
keeping it simple, focused on the target is important.

4935
10:26:24,520 --> 10:26:38,980
Also, making sure that the correct carbon costs are being accounted for, referencing federal costs in their not artificial subjective costs.

4936
10:26:41,220 --> 10:26:41,580
Okay.

4937
10:26:41,580 --> 10:27:06,760
Um, two, speaker, can, uh, to pre, yeah, thank you for, for being here at, I, I, I think you, you raised a point around, um, I'll say, how to describe it, um, well, I had a note here around, uh, using the SRY to optimize,

4938
10:27:06,760 --> 10:27:20,660
climate objectives rather than using it as sort of a bar that is barely met. Is that? I just want to elaborate a little bit more on that and kind of the directionality of expectations around this type of tool.

4939
10:27:26,370 --> 10:27:33,610
Sure, of course I'll try to answer the best that I can. So there is a distinction that's pretty important.

4940
10:27:33,610 --> 10:27:40,470
using SILI to optimize climate objectives means the climate objectives these fixed.

4941
10:27:41,290 --> 10:27:46,670
While SILI helps determine the best value way to achieve it, so that is different from

4942
10:27:46,670 --> 10:27:53,130
using SILI as a past fillgate, which determines how much of a climate objective gets implemented.

4943
10:27:54,130 --> 10:28:01,870
Reading this C627B approach, it looks like projects would incorporate requirements only to

4944
10:28:01,870 --> 10:28:06,350
point where a positive SOI is demonstrated, and again, for the

4945
10:28:06,350 --> 10:28:11,830
full building type, that means that this is 67 apartments simply are not implemented.

4946
10:28:12,950 --> 10:28:15,030
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

4947
10:28:15,850 --> 10:28:21,670
No, I was just messaging the clerks aimed to just redo your time, because you're the only one

4948
10:28:21,670 --> 10:28:22,170
on the list.

4949
10:28:22,270 --> 10:28:25,710
If there was other people on the list, I would have stopped, but please continue.

4950
10:28:25,850 --> 10:28:26,190
Apologies.

4951
10:28:26,370 --> 10:28:27,470
That was with the second round.

4952
10:28:27,750 --> 10:28:28,370
Thank you.

4953
10:28:28,370 --> 10:28:30,370
And that was really helpful.

4954
10:28:30,730 --> 10:28:38,570
So the language of sort of or descriptor of using as like a pass field gate versus ensuring that this client object is are actually fixed.

4955
10:28:39,770 --> 10:28:40,710
That's really helpful.

4956
10:28:40,850 --> 10:28:41,770
And we'll inform some questions.

4957
10:28:41,950 --> 10:28:42,930
So I'll have a administration.

4958
10:28:45,890 --> 10:28:46,230
With.

4959
10:28:46,650 --> 10:28:50,470
I'm going to jump back to a different speaker to speaker Melros.

4960
10:28:52,980 --> 10:28:54,100
Mike, are you there?

4961
10:28:54,720 --> 10:28:54,860
Yes.

4962
10:28:55,280 --> 10:28:55,460
Great.

4963
10:28:56,100 --> 10:29:00,080
Can you elaborate on what you'd expect to see for published data and analysis behind.

4964
10:29:00,260 --> 10:29:01,180
each of the outcomes?

4965
10:29:03,700 --> 10:29:08,380
Yeah, I think with SRO either, there aren't tools out there that we've been using ourselves.

4966
10:29:08,560 --> 10:29:11,540
And benefits by a call of lineers, one of them.

4967
10:29:11,600 --> 10:29:16,860
In fact, the original lead of silver policy, the city of Emmitton, 2011, used in SRO,

4968
10:29:17,120 --> 10:29:21,040
I tool to arrive at that as being an optimal way of setting that policy.

4969
10:29:21,500 --> 10:29:27,620
What I like to see are the assumptions behind it, the caution, and how it actually leads to the decision.

4970
10:29:27,620 --> 10:29:32,380
So I agree that the SRI is just a tool you should have targets as well.

4971
10:29:32,660 --> 10:29:36,420
It shouldn't move away from these cardinal neutrality as the ultimate destination,

4972
10:29:36,520 --> 10:29:41,640
but it does help you contextualize the project in terms of other policy objectives.

4973
10:29:41,880 --> 10:29:44,520
And I'm actually fairly confident that when you do an SRI,

4974
10:29:44,940 --> 10:29:48,880
you're going to see such outside community benefits that for the most

4975
10:29:48,880 --> 10:29:53,200
are these projects will still hold their own and they'll show viability.

4976
10:29:53,920 --> 10:29:56,980
So just ensuring that we see all of that decision making process actually

4977
10:29:56,980 --> 10:29:59,960
publishes that the industry in the entire market too.

4978
10:30:00,000 --> 10:30:01,480
Learn from this process.

4979
10:30:04,270 --> 10:30:11,790
Would you want to see the assumptions costing, I guess, more detail around that decision-making process

4980
10:30:12,610 --> 10:30:14,270
before policies approved?

4981
10:30:18,850 --> 10:30:25,430
I think that you probably want to see that as the projects come up. I think you should

4982
10:30:25,430 --> 10:30:30,150
evaluate this policy again if it's not achieving the objectives. I think you're going

4983
10:30:30,150 --> 10:30:36,230
real world, go data to share across the industry so I'd like to see the real world data.

4984
10:30:37,030 --> 10:30:44,330
Okay. Okay, thanks for that. I'll direct my other questions to administration.

4985
10:30:48,110 --> 10:30:48,630
Thank you very

4986
10:30:48,630 --> 10:30:56,670
much. So now we will turn to questions of administration and please, I think council

4987
10:30:56,670 --> 10:31:00,210
jams actually selected this and he's on the board so I'll go to him first for questions.

4988
10:31:00,210 --> 10:31:05,130
I do man, I thank you to the speakers for their provocations.

4989
10:31:08,370 --> 10:31:10,610
I guess first of all, just a easy one.

4990
10:31:10,850 --> 10:31:12,530
So we're ready by loud.

4991
10:31:15,410 --> 10:31:19,350
Councillor, so that is still a piece of work that is coming to committee.

4992
10:31:21,110 --> 10:31:27,210
It's taken a little bit longer to put that together before we bring it to urban planning committee for a check-in and recommendation.

4993
10:31:27,210 --> 10:31:33,250
and that's because we've been engaging with a consultant to cost out some of the options we're

4994
10:31:33,250 --> 10:31:39,310
looking at so that we can provide committee with information around affordability impacts

4995
10:31:39,310 --> 10:31:46,470
of any of the potential regulations. But you're looking at a we're looking at a early 2027 check

4996
10:31:46,470 --> 10:31:52,330
in with urban planning committee with both the solar and the EV potential requirements.

4997
10:31:54,630 --> 10:31:58,430
is one more, I imagine one would be more complex than the other,

4998
10:31:59,650 --> 10:32:03,730
we, is there no other way to bring that sooner,

4999
10:32:04,270 --> 10:32:05,610
at least the solar part?

5000
10:32:08,500 --> 10:32:12,780
I don't think so, and it isn't necessarily easier

5001
10:32:12,780 --> 10:32:16,740
when you look at the development forms that are allowed within the city,

5002
10:32:17,440 --> 10:32:21,620
in terms of singles and maltees and different types of dwelling units

5003
10:32:21,620 --> 10:32:28,300
And working through the complexity of what regulations might look like for solar and EV, they're not, they're not simple.

5004
10:32:35,030 --> 10:32:42,710
I'd love to follow up online about that. I'm very curious, because I mean, I, the solar ready element is essentially just,

5005
10:32:42,710 --> 10:32:50,370
imagine a whole some wires and a plug get it at the group when it's ready and you can hook up a solar right I mean I don't think we're

5006
10:32:50,370 --> 10:32:58,110
mandating the roof must be tilted this way or that way or this degree I think it was just about making sure a plug is

5007
10:32:58,890 --> 10:32:59,330
available.

5008
10:33:00,610 --> 10:33:00,890
Yeah.

5009
10:33:00,950 --> 10:33:01,390
That could be over.

5010
10:33:02,850 --> 10:33:04,510
Like you're you are correct.

5011
10:33:04,810 --> 10:33:10,690
The solar elements are more simplistic than the EV but we wanted to bring them both together

5012
10:33:10,690 --> 10:33:16,210
at the same time, so committee can benefit from which ones have the most value and impact,

5013
10:33:16,730 --> 10:33:21,530
and then what they both collectively together would do for cost and affordability potentially.

5014
10:33:23,790 --> 10:33:27,630
Okay, the other one I'm interested in, so where's the checkpoint here? What's the,

5015
10:33:27,630 --> 10:33:32,290
because then debating is a subsequent motion needed for like a report back, or kind of like

5016
10:33:32,290 --> 10:33:37,090
on the other motion we did the R feed, did the R feed, we had a checkpoint come back, like

5017
10:33:37,090 --> 10:33:44,010
And I'm willing to test this as our own like process, but I'm just wondering when we'd

5018
10:33:44,010 --> 10:33:50,510
see kind of like a test case or like a brewery or something or like would it be this

5019
10:33:50,510 --> 10:33:52,610
fall capital budget or

5020
10:33:57,630 --> 10:34:02,710
counciljans, it's Pascal Adosar from IS, since the policy.

5021
10:34:03,350 --> 10:34:09,770
So what you have in front of you is a revised policy, and so what it would mean is that

5022
10:34:10,850 --> 10:34:18,950
If Council should approve it, we would be looking to apply a to new projects that would be funded in the 2730 budget.

5023
10:34:19,750 --> 10:34:26,510
And so we could identify the case for example continuing with the conversation on fire stations.

5024
10:34:27,030 --> 10:34:34,430
Should Council fund new fire stations, we could review and test case kind of the policy at that level.

5025
10:34:34,430 --> 10:34:45,430
We would be doing so from also just understanding our own application of the policy and how to work with industry around it.

5026
10:34:46,730 --> 10:34:47,110
Thank you.

5027
10:34:47,110 --> 10:34:48,090
How come back from the round?

5028
10:34:48,290 --> 10:34:49,330
Thank you.

5029
10:34:49,530 --> 10:34:50,030
Councillor Salvador.

5030
10:34:50,750 --> 10:34:51,610
Thank you.

5031
10:34:52,150 --> 10:34:59,690
I just wanted to dig into the line of questioning around using SROI's sort of a gate, like a pass fail gate,

5032
10:34:59,690 --> 10:35:09,130
versus having our fixed climate objectives and then using SROI2 to optimize and why we went

5033
10:35:09,130 --> 10:35:12,750
with the past failed gate versus more of an optimization approach.

5034
10:35:13,910 --> 10:35:18,910
I'll just quickly start and then hand it off to the team here very quickly just as a sort

5035
10:35:18,910 --> 10:35:25,670
of a base for our answer last year infrastructure committee did instruct us to go look and explore

5036
10:35:25,670 --> 10:35:31,750
the SRI approach and so that's why we built the report based on what you see here today but

5037
10:35:31,750 --> 10:35:35,630
then I'll turn it over to the team to provide a little more context.

5038
10:35:39,090 --> 10:35:52,070
Yeah, so just following up from what Kent said really we're looking at using the SRI as a tool to ensure that the additional costs associated with the mission neutral buildings are sort of

5039
10:35:52,070 --> 10:36:06,530
You know, justified by the expected environmental social and economic outcomes really in light of that motion from last year in finding ways to identify cost savings from these projects.

5040
10:36:09,790 --> 10:36:19,310
Okay. And I guess I'm also struggling a little bit just with the methodology around, around what that would look like.

5041
10:36:20,030 --> 10:36:21,610
Yeah. So I can expand a little bit.

5042
10:36:21,610 --> 10:36:29,730
So we understand that SRI analysis can be very complicated, but we do also believe that there are

5043
10:36:29,730 --> 10:36:33,670
some simple metrics that we can use as a test.

5044
10:36:34,410 --> 10:36:40,050
So one primary item that one of this speakers mentioned is the social cost of carbon.

5045
10:36:40,710 --> 10:36:44,030
So this is a metric that is widely used.

5046
10:36:44,230 --> 10:36:49,470
It's published by Environment Canada, and it essentially applies a cost on our carbon emissions.

5047
10:36:49,470 --> 10:36:56,650
And that cost is intended to really show the broader social costs of greenhouse gas emissions.

5048
10:36:57,370 --> 10:37:02,730
So we already do lifecycle costs assessments on our new building projects.

5049
10:37:03,730 --> 10:37:06,530
So it doesn't necessarily need to be a new complex analysis.

5050
10:37:06,710 --> 10:37:13,330
We can simply add things like the social cost of carbon into that cost assessment that we're doing already.

5051
10:37:13,330 --> 10:37:19,150
to understand, you know, sort of the benefits and trade-offs associated with different design options.

5052
10:37:22,300 --> 10:37:29,960
Okay, and, and, and just seeing, like, how this would play out then, um, being able to...

5053
10:37:30,000 --> 10:37:37,800
I guess test, test that methodology and see how that is is working in real time to the earlier points

5054
10:37:37,800 --> 10:37:42,940
are having some projects that we can run it through in a way.

5055
10:37:45,120 --> 10:37:47,600
How can we stay on top of that, I guess.

5056
10:37:47,760 --> 10:37:52,780
So if we're noticing that, hey, this is working, we are achieving outcomes, we're achieving

5057
10:37:52,780 --> 10:37:58,960
our objectives or not. Like is there a course correction conversation to be had there as well?

5058
10:38:00,400 --> 10:38:08,920
I can start with, you know, we do our annual reporting on our C627 policy compliance and performance.

5059
10:38:09,420 --> 10:38:14,960
So that could be one avenue for sort of demonstrating results in what we're learning so far.

5060
10:38:15,600 --> 10:38:16,820
I'll not trip sending that other time.

5061
10:38:16,820 --> 10:38:18,880
And I'm at a time anyways, I'll come back. Thanks.

5062
10:38:21,580 --> 10:38:24,160
Yeah, thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

5063
10:38:26,550 --> 10:38:27,390
Thanks very much.

5064
10:38:27,390 --> 10:38:33,710
Um, just with the B.S. ROI, yeah, I can sort of work that understand that that optimization

5065
10:38:33,710 --> 10:38:40,090
between a front capital and long term operating costs, um, and how, how that factors

5066
10:38:40,090 --> 10:38:41,750
that would suddenly have other, other measurements.

5067
10:38:45,580 --> 10:38:45,740
Yeah.

5068
10:38:45,860 --> 10:38:52,580
So, we already do sort of a lifecycle, uh, cost analysis on our building projects that look

5069
10:38:52,580 --> 10:38:57,940
at not only the upfront capital costs, also the long term utility costs and maintenance

5070
10:38:57,940 --> 10:39:03,940
instance and replacement costs. So those are your sort of direct financial costs. The SRI expands

5071
10:39:03,940 --> 10:39:12,540
that to look at broader social and environmental costs associated with that. So like I had mentioned,

5072
10:39:12,920 --> 10:39:19,260
one of the primary costs would be the social cost of carbon. So that is a factor that can be included.

5073
10:39:19,740 --> 10:39:23,820
There's also some factors we can include for associate with air quality impacts in the public health

5074
10:39:23,820 --> 10:39:30,700
access associated with that to sort of broadly assess those longer term social and environmental

5075
10:39:30,700 --> 10:39:32,260
costs as well.

5076
10:39:34,660 --> 10:39:39,700
Okay, and so I'm just going to say an excerpt or a comment on the report and

5077
10:39:39,700 --> 10:39:44,340
so I can't find what is the type of word. You know, these changes to supporting animations

5078
10:39:44,340 --> 10:39:48,800
need for this one and have our energy use and corresponding to any costs, but increase.

5079
10:39:54,400 --> 10:39:54,920
Yeah,

5080
10:39:57,330 --> 10:39:59,670
just the context for that, I guess.

5081
10:40:00,930 --> 10:40:02,930
Yeah, so there's a couple different items that play here.

5082
10:40:03,030 --> 10:40:06,010
So we're also reviewing our administrative procedures at the same time,

5083
10:40:06,590 --> 10:40:10,890
and one of the items that we found to help improve cost savings

5084
10:40:10,890 --> 10:40:15,590
is removing some of the prescriptive requirements that we have in our administrative procedures,

5085
10:40:16,450 --> 10:40:18,710
which found we can still achieve, you know,

5086
10:40:18,710 --> 10:40:26,710
is new to design, but for lower costs, however, you know, at those lower costs, you may have

5087
10:40:26,710 --> 10:40:32,590
higher utility costs, because you're using sort of more energy, just with less efficient

5088
10:40:32,590 --> 10:40:38,750
equipment, but because we do have renewable energy, contract, you know, that building would

5089
10:40:38,750 --> 10:40:42,190
still be a mission's neutral. And then I think that's where you're referring to in our report.

5090
10:40:44,800 --> 10:40:49,440
Okay, and I can suggest you hear that that optimization, right? And so, so we're assuming that

5091
10:40:49,440 --> 10:40:55,620
I'm going to increase in the operating cost, is still going to be the last in the additional

5092
10:40:55,620 --> 10:40:56,520
upfront capital?

5093
10:40:58,200 --> 10:40:58,940
That's correct.

5094
10:40:59,980 --> 10:41:03,920
So the upfront capital costs have quite a big impact in that lifecycle cost assessment,

5095
10:41:03,940 --> 10:41:10,220
just because of both the magnitude of those costs as well as sort of the time value of

5096
10:41:10,220 --> 10:41:13,140
money that we include in our assessments.

5097
10:41:13,920 --> 10:41:19,040
So, yes, over the life cycle, it would sort of be more

5098
10:41:19,040 --> 10:41:20,460
way towards the upper and upper costs.

5099
10:41:21,160 --> 10:41:22,600
And then just triple check-ups as well.

5100
10:41:22,700 --> 10:41:26,280
This is both new and buildings that we're doing.

5101
10:41:27,640 --> 10:41:30,760
So, the primary focus right now, I think, would be on new buildings.

5102
10:41:31,060 --> 10:41:34,280
Buildings that are undergoing renewal also sort of undergo their own assessment

5103
10:41:34,280 --> 10:41:35,260
and energy audits.

5104
10:41:35,620 --> 10:41:38,020
But this is also a process that could be applied there.

5105
10:41:42,050 --> 10:41:43,390
Thank you.

5106
10:41:44,530 --> 10:41:45,390
Councillor Jones.

5107
10:41:45,390 --> 10:41:51,380
Thank you, and thank you all for sticking with us.

5108
10:41:51,820 --> 10:41:53,080
I sure some of the concerns.

5109
10:41:54,620 --> 10:41:58,920
So when I was thinking about the waiting of what I would want to see is certainly, I'd

5110
10:41:58,920 --> 10:42:00,240
want to see utility costs.

5111
10:42:00,520 --> 10:42:02,640
It's very clear, simple, obvious metric.

5112
10:42:03,340 --> 10:42:05,200
I'd want to see the admissions noted.

5113
10:42:05,540 --> 10:42:08,620
I'd want to know kind of energy efficiency and keybloss.

5114
10:42:08,980 --> 10:42:10,680
I'd also want to know building comfort.

5115
10:42:11,280 --> 10:42:16,740
I think I hear that those sorts of things would be considered as part of the SRW.

5116
10:42:16,740 --> 10:42:17,580
Why is that correct?

5117
10:42:19,950 --> 10:42:20,690
Yes, that's correct.

5118
10:42:22,030 --> 10:42:27,430
But the question I think is the waiting to what extent are they waiting because I failed

5119
10:42:27,430 --> 10:42:31,750
to see anything that's making it through our capital process that won't be like a social

5120
10:42:31,750 --> 10:42:32,090
good.

5121
10:42:32,250 --> 10:42:35,510
Like when we're talking about a library or a rec center or a firewall or something like all of

5122
10:42:35,510 --> 10:42:39,590
them are going to have a gold star for being like a wonderful community, a community that

5123
10:42:39,590 --> 10:42:43,030
contributes to social uplift and enterprises and everything else.

5124
10:42:43,030 --> 10:42:49,410
What I'm worried about is that where else are we making sure that shorting

5125
10:42:49,410 --> 10:42:52,050
Catholics doesn't date on some future objects?

5126
10:42:58,390 --> 10:43:00,930
Like is the SLROI weighted properly?

5127
10:43:03,320 --> 10:43:07,380
Yeah, I would say it's based off of some of the factors are based off of research in terms

5128
10:43:07,380 --> 10:43:13,300
of what the actual societal costs are associated with those in mission.

5129
10:43:13,580 --> 10:43:19,040
So for example, environment Canada publishes a factor and it's around for every

5130
10:43:19,040 --> 10:43:24,480
kind of of carbon dioxide that releases a social cost of 300 dollars and that increases over time.

5131
10:43:24,800 --> 10:43:31,820
So that's that's a like a public factor that we could use you know to sort of measure

5132
10:43:31,820 --> 10:43:36,860
or put a dollar amount I guess to those those carbon emissions and there's similar factors that

5133
10:43:36,860 --> 10:43:41,540
can be applied for other things like you mentioned building comfort and then utility costs

5134
10:43:41,540 --> 10:43:44,520
that's you know based off of our estimated utility prices.

5135
10:43:46,710 --> 10:43:52,090
Would it be too hard, because whatever we do here at either has to go up to councilor, it's referred back.

5136
10:43:52,310 --> 10:43:57,510
Would it be too hard to kind of attach the methodology, waiting and revised procedures?

5137
10:44:01,380 --> 10:44:02,100
So, I would say that way.

5138
10:44:02,100 --> 10:44:08,280
If you're in a policy go to councilor, could those things be attached as a attachment to the council report?

5139
10:44:14,080 --> 10:44:22,860
Yeah, so the procedures we're working on the afters are now, but we could provide some more information on the assumptions that go into the SRI approach.

5140
10:44:24,520 --> 10:44:27,220
And are we still buying offsets?

5141
10:44:31,980 --> 10:44:35,480
The city has, sorry, Councilor Jazz is just standard.

5142
10:44:36,100 --> 10:44:42,260
The city has a 20 year green electricity contract, where we're buying renewable energy attributes.

5143
10:44:45,060 --> 10:44:45,880
What year are we in?

5144
10:44:45,940 --> 10:44:47,200
Thank you.

5145
10:44:49,560 --> 10:44:50,200
Oh, sorry.

5146
10:44:51,160 --> 10:44:52,080
How's the councilor Salvador?

5147
10:44:53,020 --> 10:44:53,520
Yeah, thanks.

5148
10:44:54,180 --> 10:44:58,820
I just similar question, just around procedures and assumptions and waiting and some of the methodology.

5149
10:44:58,820 --> 10:44:59,660
So

5150
10:45:00,000 --> 10:45:08,100
So just so I heard correctly, the assumptions, you can include that. That's readily available.

5151
10:45:08,200 --> 10:45:11,480
We could provide more information. And then, as you're working on the procedures.

5152
10:45:11,820 --> 10:45:20,260
One quick, so sorry, the procedures wouldn't be ready for this to go to council if it followed in the natural process, but the waiting could be.

5153
10:45:20,720 --> 10:45:28,000
Yeah, yeah, and I was trying to pull those apart. So on the procedure side, if there was a desire to see that, we could get that as kind of a follow-up memo or something.

5154
10:45:28,000 --> 10:45:30,500
as you're working on that?

5155
10:45:30,500 --> 10:45:31,340
Correct, yes.

5156
10:45:31,660 --> 10:45:32,760
Okay, would you need direction on that

5157
10:45:32,760 --> 10:45:34,060
or is that something you can provide?

5158
10:45:34,220 --> 10:45:35,300
That's something we can provide.

5159
10:45:35,440 --> 10:45:36,200
Okay, great.

5160
10:45:36,340 --> 10:45:37,060
That would be helpful.

5161
10:45:37,260 --> 10:45:39,500
And our existing and then procedures are public.

5162
10:45:39,740 --> 10:45:41,340
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely.

5163
10:45:42,380 --> 10:45:46,860
Okay, I have a few different questions here.

5164
10:45:48,300 --> 10:45:51,180
Just here on the adaptation target, I think,

5165
10:45:51,500 --> 10:45:53,160
I really like the focus on this,

5166
10:45:54,300 --> 10:46:01,400
Exciting to see I just want to ring around having an interim at a patient target. It's just it seems long range out to

5167
10:46:01,400 --> 10:46:02,340
2050

5168
10:46:02,920 --> 10:46:10,020
Did we contemplate having an interim target and and I guess as a secondary question there like the 10% citywide risk reduction

5169
10:46:10,560 --> 10:46:11,760
over the

5170
10:46:11,760 --> 10:46:14,200
24 years

5171
10:46:14,200 --> 10:46:17,550
seemed modest. I don't know like how did we land on that?

5172
10:46:19,490 --> 10:46:25,430
So we could come back in future years within term targets, sort of if you think about it

5173
10:46:25,430 --> 10:46:30,970
in terms of our knowledge or learning journey similar to greenhouse gas emissions, we started

5174
10:46:30,970 --> 10:46:38,050
with one big target and as we learned and understood, you know, the measures and the impact

5175
10:46:38,050 --> 10:46:41,890
those measures would have, we were able to come up with in term targets too.

5176
10:46:42,890 --> 10:46:49,990
So we think we do not need those sort of a full cycle to be able to understand and track

5177
10:46:49,990 --> 10:46:54,250
what difference they had, but in term targets could be possible.

5178
10:46:55,930 --> 10:47:02,130
We felt kind of technically most comfortable with having the final target until we had

5179
10:47:02,130 --> 10:47:03,050
some more data.

5180
10:47:04,030 --> 10:47:18,090
Yes, and the 10% is it ambitious enough, that was my first questions, but we believe that this target will have meaningful impact.

5181
10:47:18,450 --> 10:47:20,130
It's a meaningful target,

5182
10:47:22,170 --> 10:47:26,050
and it's based off of what we know is realistic at this time.

5183
10:47:26,050 --> 10:47:34,930
will change and we might understand that this target is not far enough, but it's based off

5184
10:47:34,930 --> 10:47:38,530
of sort of the science and level of action needed.

5185
10:47:40,650 --> 10:47:42,690
And yeah, as our understanding changes

5186
10:47:42,690 --> 10:47:47,530
we could bring back future recommendations to Council to update that target.

5187
10:47:49,530 --> 10:47:53,910
okay that's that's good to hear I yeah it was look look forward to those future opportunities

5188
10:47:54,830 --> 10:48:00,890
as work progresses to have yeah just some more either yeah interim targets but also

5189
10:48:00,890 --> 10:48:07,850
sort of re-revaluation of how we can make sure that we're stretching but also being

5190
10:48:07,850 --> 10:48:08,930
realistic around those targets.

5191
10:48:12,190 --> 10:48:18,790
Thank you and I will move the recommendation and the report if you want to put that out for

5192
10:48:18,790 --> 10:48:21,670
And then I will just ask a few questions.

5193
10:48:22,410 --> 10:48:27,370
I really found it interesting about the making sure,

5194
10:48:27,570 --> 10:48:30,130
because again, we're doing a policy at so high level

5195
10:48:30,130 --> 10:48:31,250
and then you create the procedures.

5196
10:48:32,090 --> 10:48:34,090
And so I don't want to get in the weeds of that,

5197
10:48:34,130 --> 10:48:36,310
but I do want to make sure that we're not moving

5198
10:48:36,310 --> 10:48:39,930
the goalpost like some of our speakers spoke to.

5199
10:48:41,010 --> 10:48:45,310
So we are still really focused on things

5200
10:48:45,310 --> 10:48:47,230
that will reduce our missions.

5201
10:48:48,790 --> 10:48:52,210
And climate resiliency can be beyond just emission reductions, right?

5202
10:48:52,210 --> 10:48:57,510
So that's why it's a little bit more broader because we just heard when we did the presentation from the

5203
10:48:57,510 --> 10:49:04,050
insure, from the insurance specialists where I ask questions on 7.1 that our premiums will be

5204
10:49:04,050 --> 10:49:08,870
dependent on how much we show mitigation for climate as well, right?

5205
10:49:09,990 --> 10:49:11,590
So those kind of things will be factored.

5206
10:49:11,590 --> 10:49:27,950
And I think, for example, with the existing policy, C627A, we could provide council with certainty that we were going to achieve the emission neutral outcome with providing more flexibility.

5207
10:49:29,630 --> 10:49:35,670
We are losing some of that certainty and guarantee to achieve that outcome and how close we can get.

5208
10:49:35,670 --> 10:49:37,390
And it's going to depend on the building.

5209
10:49:37,770 --> 10:49:40,010
There's some buildings that are just more challenging.

5210
10:49:40,150 --> 10:49:43,870
Some buildings, it will be very easy to achieve that sort of outcome.

5211
10:49:45,610 --> 10:49:47,390
So through this update,

5212
10:49:49,510 --> 10:49:53,030
where until we have gone through a number of designs,

5213
10:49:53,230 --> 10:49:54,910
we can't give that certainty to Kiel.

5214
10:49:55,110 --> 10:49:58,250
So but if we approve the policy today,

5215
10:49:58,250 --> 10:50:00,690
you know, hearing some of the costumes, hearing some of the concerns,

5216
10:50:02,050 --> 10:50:03,470
and I know you said you didn't need one,

5217
10:50:03,470 --> 10:50:08,130
but is there, I do think that there is a benefit

5218
10:50:08,130 --> 10:50:12,710
to having information come back with some like almost case

5219
10:50:12,710 --> 10:50:15,110
studies of how this has been applied to the budget,

5220
10:50:15,750 --> 10:50:19,210
because ultimately, if we see it not working for the budget,

5221
10:50:19,470 --> 10:50:20,730
we can flag that then.

5222
10:50:21,290 --> 10:50:24,430
I don't know if that's, because I'm guessing if we approved

5223
10:50:24,430 --> 10:50:26,790
this today, the reason one of the things it was timely

5224
10:50:27,290 --> 10:50:29,670
is so that it can factor into capital profiles.

5225
10:50:35,360 --> 10:50:40,760
Councilor Rutherford, I think we would certainly look to the annual updates that could provide

5226
10:50:40,760 --> 10:50:47,780
additional information to Council as we work with the policy and apply it and then that

5227
10:50:47,780 --> 10:50:55,520
could be used as a means to reflect lessons learned or how we've been applying and what decisions

5228
10:50:55,520 --> 10:50:56,840
have been made throughout.

5229
10:50:57,520 --> 10:51:02,380
So there's opportunity to course correct then if Councilor Rutherford doesn't feel like it is.

5230
10:51:02,380 --> 10:51:07,020
Absolutely, and I think the key studies themselves, because we would be applying them to actual

5231
10:51:07,920 --> 10:51:14,380
capital projects, we would have an opportunity as we present the projects through the regular

5232
10:51:14,380 --> 10:51:18,300
approval process for Council to weigh in on that as well.

5233
10:51:19,280 --> 10:51:27,780
And if I can just, I think we want to also be sure of what is the target we're trying to achieve,

5234
10:51:27,780 --> 10:51:30,400
So coming to that point where there's that decision.

5235
10:51:31,140 --> 10:51:34,560
So that we're not trying to get to something overly ambitious.

5236
10:51:35,060 --> 10:51:38,320
And then we go so far advanced into the capital project

5237
10:51:38,320 --> 10:51:42,300
that the costs then become something that is insurmountable.

5238
10:51:42,620 --> 10:51:46,140
And then we have like lose a period of time of reworking design

5239
10:51:46,140 --> 10:51:47,480
and starting over.

5240
10:51:47,560 --> 10:51:51,040
And then we're procuring construction like a year later

5241
10:51:51,040 --> 10:51:52,700
and we're at a new price point.

5242
10:51:52,740 --> 10:51:56,880
And so I think understanding when do we have the right

5243
10:51:56,880 --> 10:52:02,660
amount of information and how do we get the right level of target is something that I think

5244
10:52:02,660 --> 10:52:09,880
actually is really important in terms of the time is money to council. Okay, council or Salvador?

5245
10:52:13,320 --> 10:52:18,500
Just a question around the changes to

5246
10:52:20,020 --> 10:52:24,780
internal advisory groups, as well,

5247
10:52:26,880 --> 10:52:29,960
with ETCRC notes.

5248
10:52:30,000 --> 10:52:43,600
No longer I was curious if administration has had any conversations around having an internal advisory group as well to help inform this work and provide that expertise.

5249
10:52:45,040 --> 10:52:51,360
Councillor, we have, knowing that Council won't, we're not looking to create an advisory group

5250
10:52:51,360 --> 10:52:56,860
for Council, but we do and would appreciate from administration having that input from community

5251
10:52:56,860 --> 10:52:58,140
in our local experts.

5252
10:52:58,840 --> 10:53:04,000
So we are in discussions and working on a few different scenarios where we can really bring

5253
10:53:04,000 --> 10:53:06,120
in that expertise that exists in the community.

5254
10:53:07,420 --> 10:53:10,960
Right now, currently we do have the emissions neutral group.

5255
10:53:10,960 --> 10:53:12,980
They are strictly advisory.

5256
10:53:13,280 --> 10:53:19,780
There's no voting, they provide their input and great ideas for us and help formulate what we bring forward to community.

5257
10:53:20,360 --> 10:53:31,520
But beyond that group we are looking at what can we do to set up a new group, not for voting or guidance, but more for input and helping us through our thinking of some of these challenges.

5258
10:53:32,280 --> 10:53:39,480
Okay. Yeah, please, please to hear that. And sorry, the emissions neutral group that currently exists.

5259
10:53:39,680 --> 10:53:43,680
That's the one that we heard from our speaker. That is correct. That's just an annual, like once a year.

5260
10:53:44,200 --> 10:53:48,500
It's as needed. It has met more than once a year when we were really busy.

5261
10:53:48,860 --> 10:53:55,140
That's something administration set up to really get some input from the community and fill some of our knowledge gaps.

5262
10:53:55,540 --> 10:53:58,460
Okay, so this would be sort of in addition to this would be in addition.

5263
10:53:58,460 --> 10:54:07,340
Okay, and then just wanted a quick commentary around the carbon budget versus climate budget because that's a change.

5264
10:54:08,320 --> 10:54:27,780
So next week at Executive Committee there will be a little bit of an update on the round that process, but the idea here is now that we have a carbon budget and we are able to understand sort of those carbon or GHG impacts to also now

5265
10:54:27,780 --> 10:54:35,820
look at the impacts on the adaptation side. So it's carbon budget plus adaptation now. So

5266
10:54:35,820 --> 10:54:41,020
to the emissions plus adaptation. Great. Thank you.

5267
10:54:44,340 --> 10:54:48,240
Thank you. Any other questions or anyone

5268
10:54:48,240 --> 10:54:49,820
to speak to the motion?

5269
10:54:57,600 --> 10:54:58,740
I go ahead, Councillor Clark.

5270
10:55:00,760 --> 10:55:01,620
Yeah, I think the recommendation.

5271
10:55:02,180 --> 10:55:06,800
I'm coming through with the policy updates. I mean, they're not perfect. They could be

5272
10:55:06,800 --> 10:55:11,100
could be more of her both sides of that tonight from speakers, but I think it's a good

5273
10:55:11,100 --> 10:55:16,760
practical, you know, systematic way to move forward. I'd like to ask her or I addition

5274
10:55:16,760 --> 10:55:21,960
on that, I think he's not as real metric as good, and I think focusing on the positive

5275
10:55:21,960 --> 10:55:27,040
return on investment is nice to have that in there and the greater flexibility as well.

5276
10:55:27,840 --> 10:55:28,940
So I look forward to supporting this.

5277
10:55:32,240 --> 10:55:34,240
Thank you, anyone else?

5278
10:55:36,400 --> 10:55:39,180
I have nothing further at this time, so please vote.

5279
10:55:50,920 --> 10:55:55,060
We have all the votes please display the votes

5280
10:55:57,490 --> 10:56:07,990
and that is carried and now we will move on to item 6.1 and

5281
10:56:07,990 --> 10:56:11,630
for anybody following the hop-along with our agenda

5282
10:56:15,920 --> 10:56:19,240
and this one I

5283
10:56:19,240 --> 10:56:20,600
Know this like

5284
10:56:21,220 --> 10:56:28,560
We just a bit of somewhere we had started discussing this one. Yes, I believe you received a presentation and heard from speakers

5285
10:56:28,560 --> 10:56:31,780
And had actually started questions of it, didn't it?

5286
10:56:31,960 --> 10:56:35,620
Yes, we had started questions, so we're just picking up from there.

5287
10:56:35,860 --> 10:56:41,600
But I do know that there is some in private components of anybody as questions.

5288
10:56:41,700 --> 10:56:46,280
I know I have questions in private, but I'll wait to see if anybody else has questions in public.

5289
10:56:47,920 --> 10:56:48,500
On this item?

5290
10:56:56,730 --> 10:56:56,890
Nope.

5291
10:56:57,310 --> 10:57:00,810
Okay, I will move that we go into private.

5292
10:57:11,890 --> 10:57:19,650
section is the last time we're in 19 disclosure harmful the business interest of the third party in 29 advice for my visuals.

5293
10:57:22,430 --> 10:57:31,610
Yes for those reasons. I knew it was the 19 I just didn't know if it was just 19. Perfect. Any questions I'm going into private.

5294
10:57:34,840 --> 10:57:35,960
Please vote.

5295
10:57:35,960 --> 10:57:36,720
We

5296
10:57:46,830 --> 10:57:47,650
have all the votes.

5297
10:57:48,270 --> 10:57:49,690
Please display the votes

5298
10:57:52,800 --> 10:57:54,620
and that is carried.

5299
10:57:57,530 --> 10:57:58,690
We'll just give you a few minutes.

5300
11:38:11,200 --> 11:38:22,740
Thank you. I think we don't have any other questions on this item. There is a motion just to keep the attachment in private. So I'm happy to move that.

5301
11:38:31,940 --> 11:38:33,820
Anyone else have any questions seen?

5302
11:38:36,230 --> 11:38:37,030
Please vote.

5303
11:38:45,140 --> 11:38:48,100
We have all the votes. Please display the votes.

5304
11:38:53,020 --> 11:39:01,040
And that is carried. And now we'll move on to the final item. Item 7.2. Central area bridge update.

5305
11:39:03,360 --> 11:39:05,360
And is it the same folks?

5306
11:39:07,480 --> 11:39:08,540
I don't need a presentation.

5307
11:39:09,720 --> 11:39:13,400
I don't know if the answer Stevenson had wanted it as well.

5308
11:39:13,660 --> 11:39:15,820
But I'd be happy to go to questions given the hour.

5309
11:39:17,540 --> 11:39:17,560
Yeah.

5310
11:39:17,820 --> 11:39:19,240
I mean, you didn't select it anyway.

5311
11:39:19,580 --> 11:39:21,420
Counselor Jones technically may or not act it.

5312
11:39:22,800 --> 11:39:23,660
But you're great.

5313
11:39:23,680 --> 11:39:24,120
My apologies.

5314
11:39:25,980 --> 11:39:26,180
Yeah.

5315
11:39:26,840 --> 11:39:29,340
I think that if everyone, if counselors,

5316
11:39:29,660 --> 11:39:30,760
because there's no public speakers,

5317
11:39:30,760 --> 11:39:35,920
I don't think we need necessarily to do the presentation unless there is interest from Council.

5318
11:39:36,160 --> 11:39:40,600
So I'll just turn to Council and committee does anybody feel like they need a presentation on this item.

5319
11:39:44,320 --> 11:39:46,100
Nobody online is indicating otherwise.

5320
11:39:46,980 --> 11:39:50,300
Okay, we'll just go straight to questions of administration.

5321
11:39:51,780 --> 11:39:54,120
So Council Jans, did you have questions?

5322
11:39:58,270 --> 11:40:00,210
Yeah, just a quick run here.

5323
11:40:00,370 --> 11:40:01,110
Thank you for this.

5324
11:40:02,050 --> 11:40:04,870
Just wondering, is this going to be classified as growth of a new one?

5325
11:40:08,130 --> 11:40:13,570
Okay, nobody from finance. I believe it is, it is going to be categorized as growth.

5326
11:40:15,210 --> 11:40:20,770
And so what's the look, so it'd be for this budget cycle or the next budget cycle?

5327
11:40:21,330 --> 11:40:31,090
And so the construction of the low-level bridge replacement with start in 2029 is the current schedule.

5328
11:40:31,090 --> 11:40:38,750
And so the request for funding would come during one of the supplemental budget adjustments.

5329
11:40:39,770 --> 11:40:40,290
I had of that.

5330
11:40:40,490 --> 11:40:42,510
So 2028 I believe is our objective.

5331
11:40:45,010 --> 11:40:46,930
And Joseph Donald Bridge, what's the capacity?

5332
11:40:50,500 --> 11:40:50,760
I don't know.

5333
11:40:50,760 --> 11:40:52,340
And I guess when do we hit capacity?

5334
11:40:52,560 --> 11:40:52,920
That's right.

5335
11:40:52,980 --> 11:40:54,860
I guess maybe if we could follow that up.

5336
11:40:54,860 --> 11:40:56,420
Absolutely to the high level bridge.

5337
11:40:56,640 --> 11:41:01,380
I had a subsequent motion there asking just about trying to get a sense of new

5338
11:41:01,380 --> 11:41:06,380
stats and building making sure we're building for BRT and Flex and everything else.

5339
11:41:07,640 --> 11:41:14,000
Yeah, we're well aware of your motion and the memo is being drafted as, as we speak,

5340
11:41:14,180 --> 11:41:15,540
and that only wants to weigh and go ahead.

5341
11:41:17,020 --> 11:41:20,180
Yeah, I was just going to jump in on this, the same Pascal.

5342
11:41:21,640 --> 11:41:25,880
We have the memo vastly drafted for you.

5343
11:41:25,900 --> 11:41:30,640
Councillor Jones, we have included in the memo and we're just working on some of the

5344
11:41:30,640 --> 11:41:37,620
details of it. The usage starts for all of the various central area bridges, including

5345
11:41:37,620 --> 11:41:45,740
looking to the future forecast and transit use passenger vehicle use and so on.

5346
11:41:45,960 --> 11:41:51,200
So all of that detail will be included in the memo that we'll follow up from this report.

5347
11:41:52,420 --> 11:41:57,560
Awesome. So BIRT is a two-soon state. BIRT is being contemplated for low level

5348
11:41:57,560 --> 11:42:00,560
for your games with Donald, for high level, for...

5349
11:42:01,640 --> 11:42:06,020
So at this point, we're still working through the mass transit planning for the BRT.

5350
11:42:06,700 --> 11:42:12,260
We do have a little bit of work and analysis to do when it comes to the river crossing.

5351
11:42:12,460 --> 11:42:19,620
But at this stage, we are anticipating the BRT likely to align more closely with the high level bridge.

5352
11:42:20,200 --> 11:42:22,640
This is amazing, like three minutes just started.

5353
11:42:22,640 --> 11:42:31,000
um yeah well uh in the yeah and then finally I guess I'm just confirmation that active modes

5354
11:42:31,000 --> 11:42:35,260
will be considered during the northbound closure that will be take you look at all of that

5355
11:42:35,260 --> 11:42:37,180
how we're going to redirect during construction.

5356
11:42:39,520 --> 11:42:41,040
Yes council Jones absolutely.

5357
11:42:42,520 --> 11:42:47,700
Okay I'm going to yield my time thank you. Thank you council or Stevenson.

5358
11:42:49,120 --> 11:42:56,500
Thank you. I just want to get a sense of this classified as gross, sort of, again, just

5359
11:42:56,500 --> 11:43:00,060
like we heard of that, that's funding being available versus I'm wondering if it's

5360
11:43:00,060 --> 11:43:06,420
scenario where the J.F. Donald Bridge was expanded as out of it's for law. It was explored

5361
11:43:06,420 --> 11:43:07,160
as an option.

5362
11:43:09,240 --> 11:43:16,520
So, from a classification perspective, I would say that the renewal program for the so

5363
11:43:16,520 --> 11:43:24,640
will program would not be in a place to support expansion of a bridge or a placement of a bridge.

5364
11:43:25,020 --> 11:43:35,180
It doesn't have the capacity for this level of infrastructure and so I think the qualification

5365
11:43:35,180 --> 11:43:45,560
of the funding may be not as critical in this case because it is most likely going to be

5366
11:43:45,560 --> 11:43:51,900
funded and so growth or renewal. It becomes something that is outside of our renewal capacity.

5367
11:43:53,620 --> 11:43:58,680
And Natalie can speak to the network analysis that was done to confirm that the replacement

5368
11:43:58,680 --> 11:44:05,280
of the little level bridge was why we move forward with that, which was a previous report presented to committee.

5369
11:44:09,010 --> 11:44:14,570
That's right, Pascal. So we had looked at the river crossing requirements when it comes to the

5370
11:44:14,570 --> 11:44:22,810
vehicle and pedestrian and transit and active transportation uses of the river. Looking at that

5371
11:44:22,810 --> 11:44:28,870
analysis, it was very essential that we replaced the low-level bridge, somewhat near the

5372
11:44:28,870 --> 11:44:35,690
location that it exists today. Just for context, for the central area of river bridges,

5373
11:44:36,330 --> 11:44:41,870
about just slightly less than a quarter of the river crossings are happening at the low-level

5374
11:44:42,710 --> 11:44:46,450
and so it's very difficult to accommodate that on the existing bridges.

5375
11:44:48,050 --> 11:44:53,310
Now I'm just interested in the code language where we're going to add it to that existing structure.

5376
11:44:54,310 --> 11:44:59,830
And if I'm just wondering if that's a cost effective way to replace the capacity, then I'm going to have to put it a brand new bridge.

5377
11:45:00,940 --> 11:45:29,260
Just just building on that absolutely, we did look at the opportunity of widening other bridges and that would cover a portion of the link capacity that would be lost with the local bridge going out of service, but it doesn't replace anywhere near what we need not only now, but into the future, we are expecting vehicle trips, transit trips, and active transportation trips to continue to expand.

5378
11:45:29,260 --> 11:45:42,040
Over time, in the tens of thousands of additional trips and over the next 30 years, and so no matter which way we looked at it, it was still very essential that we looked at a new river crossing.

5379
11:45:42,220 --> 11:45:54,120
We can't widen the existing bridges enough, and similarly the destinations and origins of the users that are crossing the river, this crossing was needed.

5380
11:45:54,120 --> 11:45:54,920
Okay,

5381
11:45:58,370 --> 11:45:59,430
another time.

5382
11:46:00,990 --> 11:46:04,550
That's okay, you're the only one, if you'd like to do it, would you like to do another round?

5383
11:46:06,630 --> 11:46:09,350
Um, yes, okay.

5384
11:46:09,630 --> 11:46:10,370
Yeah, please.

5385
11:46:12,070 --> 11:46:18,210
I was just wondering in terms of the funding mechanisms for some of the road rationalization

5386
11:46:18,210 --> 11:46:26,210
to factor capitalized into the overall bridge decommissioning, and again in the decommissioning

5387
11:46:26,210 --> 11:46:35,160
we deduct funded. Councillor Stevenson, when we are decommissioning an asset by replacing it,

5388
11:46:36,000 --> 11:46:41,860
yes we are allowed to capitalize those costs. Okay great, and then just the broader

5389
11:46:49,080 --> 11:47:05,660
So there's a lot of design work that still needs to be done to understand what the work would be directly related to the low-level bridge and what could be contemplated as either related work or subsequent work.

5390
11:47:05,660 --> 11:47:10,200
And so those details will be developed over the next few years.

5391
11:47:10,700 --> 11:47:12,440
And the discussions with Council will take place.

5392
11:47:12,860 --> 11:47:19,920
As we noted in the report, there are multiple touchpoints coming in the next few years

5393
11:47:19,920 --> 11:47:22,580
that will allow us to work through all of those questions.

5394
11:47:23,800 --> 11:47:24,000
Okay.

5395
11:47:24,140 --> 11:47:25,240
You have a little appreciate that.

5396
11:47:25,420 --> 11:47:32,020
And then just from the initial review, do we anticipate any of your land acquisition

5397
11:47:32,020 --> 11:47:37,280
and being required, or, yeah, just want to let that be a approach in landing.

5398
11:47:39,100 --> 11:47:41,720
Now, Lincoln confirmed, but I don't believe so.

5399
11:47:42,620 --> 11:47:47,940
That's right, Pascal. So we're working within the footprint of the land that the city already

5400
11:47:47,940 --> 11:47:54,160
stewards. So at this point in time we're not expecting any land acquisition and in fact some of the work that

5401
11:47:54,160 --> 11:48:00,000
we're doing we're looking to pre-ups some of the land in a river valley for other uses, perhaps we're trying to make

5402
11:48:01,020 --> 11:48:01,460
Please.

5403
11:48:01,660 --> 11:48:04,640
Okay, well thank you so much for letting me push it out.

5404
11:48:05,460 --> 11:48:07,140
Thank you, Councillor Jones.

5405
11:48:08,500 --> 11:48:08,900
Yes, sorry.

5406
11:48:09,540 --> 11:48:10,240
Two more questions.

5407
11:48:11,500 --> 11:48:13,580
What's what's the delton making it beautiful?

5408
11:48:13,860 --> 11:48:16,000
They get about the water data there.

5409
11:48:16,900 --> 11:48:20,160
Are we talking like 1% to 5%.

5410
11:48:20,160 --> 11:48:25,380
It could be significant more than that if we were looking at a signature bridge.

5411
11:48:25,380 --> 11:48:31,960
I don't have an exact number off the top of my head.

5412
11:48:32,780 --> 11:48:38,800
I know that we've talked about, you know, significant percentages over and above the existing cost.

5413
11:48:39,140 --> 11:48:41,440
But we would be, pardon me, not the existing cost.

5414
11:48:41,700 --> 11:48:47,600
Over and above a functional cost, but it really can vary quite significantly depending on how signature you go.

5415
11:48:48,540 --> 11:48:53,760
You know, there's varying degrees of what a signature bridge could look like and the impacts of that.

5416
11:48:53,760 --> 11:48:55,880
So, and it is a bit of a spectrum.

5417
11:48:56,340 --> 11:49:02,860
And Councillor Jans, in this case, because the product is looking to maintain the historical

5418
11:49:02,860 --> 11:49:08,960
bridge, one of the reasons that the functional bridge is also being advances that it allows

5419
11:49:08,960 --> 11:49:13,280
for the existing level bridge to be the center of attention in that crossing.

5420
11:49:14,700 --> 11:49:15,780
Okay, I understand.

5421
11:49:16,420 --> 11:49:20,820
And finally, just with the daylighting, no crecabies, Lord, where is it going to be explored

5422
11:49:20,820 --> 11:49:27,180
kind of for lack of a better term, a partial or sectional daylighting like maybe some of it

5423
11:49:27,180 --> 11:49:31,520
towards the North portion would be daylighted, but maybe some of the other portions still

5424
11:49:31,520 --> 11:49:32,500
have to remain underground.

5425
11:49:36,020 --> 11:49:42,360
Yeah, I can jump in on that and it's the first focus for us is working on the most central

5426
11:49:42,360 --> 11:49:46,460
piece of the infrastructure that needs to be replaced and that's the time, the time-sensitive

5427
11:49:46,460 --> 11:49:53,460
piece of the low-level bridge replacement. With that, we will most certainly have to adjust

5428
11:49:53,460 --> 11:49:59,600
the north approaches. And so there is a good opportunity on the north side of the river for us to

5429
11:49:59,600 --> 11:50:05,380
do a look at what that could look like from a de-leading perspective. It's a south side where

5430
11:50:05,380 --> 11:50:11,280
the mill creek ravine, for example, and the de-leading city has a lot of opportunities identified.

5431
11:50:11,280 --> 11:50:17,340
But we are going to be changing the south connection point to significant leads.

5432
11:50:18,460 --> 11:50:26,980
So the opportunities we will be looking at, but the timing of them is not necessarily going to be directly aligned with the Bridge Replacement.

5433
11:50:27,600 --> 11:50:40,460
They could follow. So we'll be focusing on the Bridge Replacement first and then as well as the day-learning examination in parallel with the planning study and then the timing of the rest of that will be determined as we go along.

5434
11:50:40,460 --> 11:50:44,480
And there's a potential for this included as part of the

5435
11:50:44,480 --> 11:50:46,640
what mitigation work, of course doing.

5436
11:50:48,840 --> 11:50:49,300
Those are welcome.

5437
11:50:49,940 --> 11:50:50,760
I got that up all up.

5438
11:50:50,860 --> 11:50:51,060
Okay.

5439
11:50:54,040 --> 11:50:55,000
Thank you.

5440
11:50:55,320 --> 11:50:55,760
Councillor Salvador.

5441
11:50:57,960 --> 11:50:58,100
Yep.

5442
11:50:58,140 --> 11:50:58,820
Thank you.

5443
11:51:00,100 --> 11:51:02,060
Just building on that question.

5444
11:51:04,300 --> 11:51:05,760
I, yeah, very interesting.

5445
11:51:06,420 --> 11:51:08,480
The day lighting conversation as well around

5446
11:51:08,480 --> 11:51:10,340
Milk Creek and just wanted to understand.

5447
11:51:13,000 --> 11:51:40,940
Yeah, how this work is intersecting with, I know, on the climate front, we have some work coming forward around climate implementation priorities and I believe there is contemplation as part of that report around, around daylighting and, you know, mitigating erosion river river related work and just wanted to make sure that those two bodies of work are talking to one another.

5448
11:51:41,940 --> 11:51:48,800
and also forecast I intend to move a motion at one of those upcoming conversations about

5449
11:51:48,800 --> 11:51:52,300
day lighting and just want to make sure that it's intertwined and we're not kind of talking

5450
11:51:52,300 --> 11:51:54,140
past each other as this work continues.

5451
11:51:55,220 --> 11:51:59,860
No, we can absolutely assure you, Councillor Salvatore, that the conversations will be happening

5452
11:51:59,860 --> 11:52:06,880
with all those considerations in mind and responding to Councillor Jans with up core as we look

5453
11:52:06,880 --> 11:52:13,280
flood mitigation, delighting opportunities. What Natalie was mentioning is that the immediate

5454
11:52:13,280 --> 11:52:19,920
need for infrastructure replacement of the low-level bridge, as we have moved forward

5455
11:52:21,640 --> 11:52:27,820
between the previous report that the replacement was the way to go, and this report which

5456
11:52:27,820 --> 11:52:29,960
starts to show you the alignment and what the...

5457
11:52:30,000 --> 11:52:59,680
The bridges anticipated to look like. While we have opportunities to look at the south connections, it may not be as necessary for the low-level bridge replacement as we may have previously anticipated, which means that we may be, we would be looking at more of a phase than the long-term plan for those south approaches that would incorporate daylighting and could be part of a bigger project, whereas the bridge replacement itself might move forward faster than that.

5458
11:53:00,000 --> 11:53:01,040
Okay. Thank you for the clarity.

5459
11:53:04,780 --> 11:53:11,500
Thank you. And with that, I'm not seeing any other questions on this item.

5460
11:53:14,120 --> 11:53:20,380
And this was a receipt of information report. So thank you for sharing this information with us.

5461
11:53:21,880 --> 11:53:27,720
And look forward to hearing more about these projects as they progress. And because we do not have time,

5462
11:53:27,720 --> 11:53:36,680
I did mention that any sort of potential subsequence we would do as notice is a motion if we got close to time so I know Councillor Salvatore has

5463
11:53:37,320 --> 11:53:52,460
had a subsequence that you'll convert to a notice a motion on item sub subsequent that would have been a subsequence to 7.6 please go ahead and give your notice

5464
11:53:52,460 --> 11:53:55,960
So we're just finding it here, so

5465
11:53:58,200 --> 11:54:02,020
I guess this would be at the next regular council meeting.

5466
11:54:02,460 --> 11:54:05,360
I would move, or you want to do exactly well, you could do exactly.

5467
11:54:05,540 --> 11:54:07,240
Am I still within the time limit to do exactly?

5468
11:54:07,960 --> 11:54:09,420
Yeah, yep, yep.

5469
11:54:09,780 --> 11:54:15,160
So at the next executive committee meeting, I'll move the administration prepare for consideration during the

5470
11:54:15,160 --> 11:54:22,940
2027 to 2030 by deliberations, options for increasing funding for capital profile, CM20-03030,

5471
11:54:22,940 --> 11:54:28,440
to complete all remaining groups identified in attachment 3 of the August 2026, August 26,

5472
11:54:28,960 --> 11:54:35,160
2026, infrastructure services report, IS-03688 and an unfunded capital profile that

5473
11:54:35,160 --> 11:54:39,020
continue the implementation of the by-plan and formed by the Fourth Coming Act of Transportation

5474
11:54:39,860 --> 11:54:40,720
Implementation Guide.

5475
11:54:44,530 --> 11:54:49,830
Thank you and then I think that Councillor Jans also has a notice of motion and I just wanted

5476
11:54:49,830 --> 11:54:53,850
to get clarity that it would be five clear days to the next urban planning committee because

5477
11:54:53,850 --> 11:55:00,550
do count the weekend in that. Yeah. Perfect. So you could do the notice to debate that at the next

5478
11:55:00,550 --> 11:55:05,030
urban planning committee, Councillor Jens and I will thank you. Yeah, thank you. Your notice.

5479
11:55:07,230 --> 11:55:13,390
I'll give. If you can hear me, I give notice that at the next urban planning committee,

5480
11:55:13,630 --> 11:55:18,930
we will debate that administer that administration undertaker review and update of the complete

5481
11:55:18,930 --> 11:55:23,170
States and other relevant guiding documents through applying active transportation design

5482
11:55:23,170 --> 11:55:26,710
semifz for active transportation network expansion neighborhood renewal and other relevant

5483
11:55:26,710 --> 11:55:32,890
capital programs including standardizing bi-directionizing bi-directional lanes of the

5484
11:55:32,890 --> 11:55:37,170
preferred on-street facility with clear parameters for when alternatives of what we considered.

5485
11:55:37,910 --> 11:55:41,610
And secondly, revising options to allow the stacking of minimum and constrained standards

5486
11:55:41,610 --> 11:55:46,370
on existing streets with reference to the design domain concept design exception process

5487
11:55:46,370 --> 11:55:53,730
kind of all of the community values and informing decision making and return to know that's it.

5488
11:55:54,270 --> 11:55:57,870
Thank you and then I'll just look to my committee members, are there any other notices emotion

5489
11:55:58,570 --> 11:56:00,650
or motions without customary notice?

5490
11:56:04,420 --> 11:56:09,780
Not hearing any with that. We are adjourned at 858.

5491
11:56:10,640 --> 11:56:15,340
Thank you everyone and thank you very much. Thank you very much chair. Thank you very much staff.

5492
11:56:15,340 --> 11:56:17,000
Thank you for everyone who stayed.

5493
11:56:17,540 --> 11:56:18,700
Yeah, that's what I would like.

5494
11:56:19,000 --> 11:56:19,500
Good night.

5495
11:56:20,120 --> 11:56:23,960
Thank you for the willingness to have clerks,

5496
11:56:24,140 --> 11:56:26,520
switch over and be able to stay later and do that shift.

5497
11:56:26,660 --> 11:56:31,100
And thank you to city staff that stayed on for the duration of the meeting.

5498
11:56:31,760 --> 11:56:32,540
So have a good night everyone.

5499
11:56:32,780 --> 11:56:34,000
We are adjourned.