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hang around the audience first.
>> That's you.

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Okay. I thought it was like a public
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you want to take one of those and pass
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» Yeah. So, good evening. Uh, good to see
you all. Jason Hoskinson with PJ

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Consultants and I wanted to give you
just a couple of project updates and

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then old building is the Kansas Water
Office is making a call for grant

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projects for well more design or
construction of what we've been

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designing on your sanitarian projects.
So, grant applications are due. I want

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to kind of visit with the council, maybe
get some direction from the council to

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help with with work with Adam and Ryan
on what we want to apply for as far as a

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next phase of grant funding project.
A quick update on the sewer side of

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things. U call we're currently working
finishing up the design

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rehab work uh for
about half of your sewer system. Uh

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rellining people, preparing problem
areas and things of that nature. And

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then also designing a new lift station
for the east lift station and some

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control modifications for the southwest
lift station. So, that's what's included

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in that project. We are I'll say like
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the finishing touches on the plans, uh
going through some quality checks and

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stuff like that. And within the next
couple of weeks, should be wrapped up

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and submitting those to KDH for approval
to build the project, permission to

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build the project. So, it's it's
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done by just a few dotting eyes and
crossing tees.

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Our current cost estimate for the whole
project, the construction phase of the

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whole project, lining, lift stations,
everything is a little over three

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billion. It's kind of down there at the
bottom. 3.275 billion for the entire

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project.
Come back to that here in just a minute.

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Jump to the other side. Uh well actually
before I could get off the san any

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questions on the sanitary process or
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» at the end of it will we be able to get
maps of where the san?

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» Yes. Yeah. We will have plans and
everything for you that show where the

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existing sewers at and what improvements
u are included. Yeah. It'll we'll give

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you some fullsize sets and a digital
copy as well. Also, if you needed to

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hold up on a tablet or something, do
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Uh, I'm going to jump to the back page
here. Uh, the other project that's kind

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of been
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the water well project at First and
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the city's acquired the acquired the
property for it and we've gone through

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the design for the wells in place and
ready to go. Uh, it's been sent to KDH.

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We've applied for that this last year
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it did not get funded.
But right now, an opinion of cost to

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implement that the construction phase to
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there on that site and tie it into the
system. So, those are kind of the two

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big utility side projects that we've
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Now that brings me to okay now the next
the last okay

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applications for grant funding are due
at the end of this month and it's the

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same basically the same rules the same
everything is what we're doing right now

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but the the design the sanitary goes
through the Kansas water office 100%

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grant funding you can you can match and
try to sweeten the pot if if there's

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local money available to to try to throw
some brownie points towards the grant

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application.
They don't really have a scoring table

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as to how that plays in,
but it certainly does. If they're

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looking at two projects at once, both of
them are the same cost. This community

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is going to pitch in 25%, this community
is not, it might sway their decision to

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go that route. It may not. Uh they seem
to want to spread the money around a

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little bit. But my question I guess for
council would be and I've laid out a few

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options here. Uh
how do we want to apply for a project or

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what size of project do you want to look
at applying for? You can put in more

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than one application.
They'll ask you to prioritize it like

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which ones are we could give you half
million dollar which one we'd like to

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have it for. We could do uh option one.
We could we could submit for the

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construction for the water well project.
Option two, you could submit for your

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entire sanitary project, the 3 almost 3
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or you could do a portion thereof and
they did provide an option three for

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just the lift station upgrades because I
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giving you some havoc here.
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» I will say in the last round I look back
at the 2025 recipients that made a note

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to that down here. Most of them were
between 350 and $350,000 million. Most

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of the grants that
uh there were a few that were just a

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touch over 1 million. But
if I look at that and try to project

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that out, say what's the chances of
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it's
probably slim to none.

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» Uh unless you wanted to match it with
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or something like that and do a bigger
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» Can I ask you probably not going to be a
brief question, but okay. Most of us

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were not on council whenever the
original water the well

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» was. Can you just kind of go through
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like
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» kind of where we are with that.
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» of gauge what need is
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» I'm going to tell you right now the lift
stations are much higher priority than

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the well. Like we've got a water tower
that works and we're hooked up to rural

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water if something really goes bad.
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» we just spent a lot of money pumping out
a lift station that failed.

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» Yeah.
>> And was running raw sewage out again. So

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>> I'm 100% agree. It's probably the best,

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but I don't know about the well thing.
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» a history of
just a real quick high level wells. So

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there's been
maybe you know maybe seven or eight

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different wells through the history uh
in time and then when we were starting

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when we got involved um with the water
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years ago uh I think we were down to
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were producing water. One was producing
just a little bit and the other one the

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production was going down.
had some cleaning

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testing. The steel casing is corroding
so it's not getting as much water have

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problems and so I think you're down to
one waterfall pump right now. Are you

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still at two? Okay, you're at two. Um,
so you can produce water in town, but

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there was some concerns during high high
usage summertime that it maybe couldn't

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keep up. At that time we did work with
the city. You've got the ruled water

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connection as an interconnect as a
backup. So when the wells went down, you

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could still you didn't have to bring in
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» You've got that scenario. But in the
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councils had also pursued acquiring uh
some property for a new well because all

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the existing wells don't meet the
current regulations for clearances or

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wells for say sanitary lines and things
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fire councils have gone through and done
some test drilling in some different

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locations, found a site at first in
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um
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» so it's ready to be built. It's just a
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building it. So,
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don't need to buy like I've got a well
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» right? We got a brand new well pump that
came out of five. Okay.

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» 25 collapsed.
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» Uh, it could.
>> Is that just construction?

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» No, that that would that Well, that
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» Okay. Because I got up in all the piping
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» Okay. So, yeah, there could be some some
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A lot of that cost is getting a
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couldn't tell you exactly how
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we do apply for these grants and we get
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» are we limited to that grant over a
period of how many years before we can

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apply for another in the same
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limitation um
it's only been this is the fourth round

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third round fourth round of five that
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great homes that have been funded. So
there's not really a good pattern or

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history to see like have people gotten
it multiple times in a row.

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I would like to think if you've been
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would help like hey we've succeeded in
the first grant now we're ready to build

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at least a portion of it. Hopefully that
would play to your benefit. There's also

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no guarantee that this money is going to
be the funding is going to be around

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after next year.
I think this is the fourth round.

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There's five rounds that have been fun.
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» From the state of Kansas. Yeah. Now,
there's a good chance that

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Topeka could re-up it again next year,
get some kind of bill, but until that

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happens, it's not really set in stone.

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So yeah, you could look at fun or could
look at applying for I know your left

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station's been causing problems. You
could look at applying for option three

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and maybe option one as well if you
wanted to, but put the priority on

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option three if that's where the council
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» I agree with Katie. We got to do
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» Oh yeah,
>> those stations are clean. I guess my

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question is like what is the temporary
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like assuming a loan is that
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» is that like where we need to increase
like our water rates that much?

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» No. Okay. Yeah, I didn't I didn't
explain this. Uh so temporary financing

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and I've got that as a question mark. So
the water office loan or the water

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office grant is uh it's every three
months, right? That they're reimbursing

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then after three months of payments you
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Um so if you do a lift station project
however you're going to have to pay

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potentially almost the entire $750,000
out of the bank city's bank account uh

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before you can get reimbursed by the the
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So, it can all happen in the same year,
but it's kind of a cash flow thing. Is

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there enough cash in the city's bank to
float $750,000 for payments? If not, we

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may
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financing just to help cover that
because you get a contractor in here,

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they do a bunch of work and you don't
pay their bill

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head out. So, and not finish the
project. So, that's what the temporary

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financing comment would be for. And we
can factor that in. It's not a long

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period of time, but it's
There's some cost to that. It's 10,000

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bucks to deal with a
a temporary note to float the project.

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The item down at the bottom that I say
about local matching money. That's if

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you wanted to, let's say you wanted to
apply for the $3.3 million project and

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ask for half of it in grant and then
we're going to cover the other half in

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loan. Well, if you if you wanted to get
a loan for $1.5 million or whatever,

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well, $1 million is what I show as a
scenario here, that's what you would

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need to raise your utility rates by each
month to cover the prepaid.

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» I'm sorry to laugh, but we are water
billing our citizens out of town

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already.
>> Like, that's not happening.

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» 0%. Yeah,
>> like I like like you showing us that

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information though because that like
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» But at least we did that 1% sales tax so
that should help cover some gaps

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» and it's just there for information.
>> Although I appreciate that. I was like

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looking at this and my head is already
pounding and now I'm looking at this

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going
>> we already have people complaining. Our

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water bill is insanely high.

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that minimum hookup over $100 a month.
>> Holy moly. And that doesn't even include

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trash. People complain in a their water
bill goes 90 something dollars. They

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That is a That's a trash.
>> That's a deal.

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» I mean, like, would your recommendation
be like, "Do we our our option three

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would be our number one?"
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with the problems, yeah, I would say
your option three would be your highest

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with the water side of things. You have
backup. You have wells that are burning

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a sink.
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if one of the wells goes down for a
while, but you have you have some

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storage some fluctuation. The lift
station goes out. You're pumping. You

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know that.
>> We know that. You know that. But we know

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that.
>> Yeah. And I don't even know that we

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» So, so when you start looking at
ownership and maintenance costs, I think

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» I definitely Yes.
>> Where you need toize.

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» Do you need a recommendation tonight for
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» Um I don't know, Adam, if you're looking
for specific action or if it's just kind

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of council direction, like a consensus
like, yeah, option three is what we go

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for.
>> Uh just sort of consensus. Even if it's

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not reached, I I can always email you
back and say this is what the council

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decided. The loan deadline is three
weeks or the application.

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» The application's Yeah, the
application's online. Uh it's due in

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three weeks. There's nothing that needs
to be signed by the mayor or anything.

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Somebody at the city online application.
That's what we've done in the past and

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that'll help provide some verbiage about
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$750,000 charge
and let's say we go ahead and we

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actually do go in and want to do a grant
look at the grant for that and there's a

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development
>> 40 years. Okay. At four four and a

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quarter we're talking costing us about
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So if we got it,
we went in to go ahead and do it and we

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get the grant. And even if we get a
grant from 3 375,000 with that,

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you know, half of it, then we're
automatically going to be in a better

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spot than we're at right now. We'd love
to get to $750,000 grant. We know that

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the likelihood of that's going to be
>> I think you asked for the 750 and that's

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right in the sweet spot of what's been
funded in the past,

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» right? But I'm just saying I'm throwing
out the you know I'm being the devil's

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advocate here for a minute.
>> Okay.

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» But is there is there a scenario that
they would only do that

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» or do they just kind of approve it or
not?

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» They probably let you know before they
do that because they're not going to

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want to announce
and then I know KO has done that where

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they ask for a million bucks or city
asked for a million bucks and they're

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like hey we can only get you 600 on this
project. Would you still be willing to

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take that in advance? So I would think
we probably communications

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say we're only going to fund half of it.
>> I mean, you know, it's a 40-year loan,

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granted, but
if you get it, you know, we get a

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partial on it.
>> Yeah,

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» it's better than what we got.
>> I mean, I personally, we could kick the

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past councils in the rear end because of
that, not them not putting that $23,000

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there. That would have been 6 over
$600,000 if we could had didn't happen.

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But, you know, that's water on the
bridge. But we got to find a way to fund

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it. And if even if we don't get the
grant, we can I mean, I would say we go

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ahead and apply for that grant. Now,
>> I'm not saying not apply for it. Like,

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yes, absolutely.
>> But even if we don't get that grant, you

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know, then we can I mean, we've got an
option here, you know. Yeah. It's 40

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years. That's a long time,
but

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» that's only but that's only one part of
it,

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» right? The whole thing with the 40 years
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» that then you're taking out another loan
to fix it because in 40 years this is

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going to need to be redone again.
>> Well, on the last I get that like

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» I'm just going to shut my mouth right
now because every comment that's going

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to come out after this is not
appropriate and I'm going to blame it on

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sleep deprivation and a massive
headache.

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» Well, I mean, one way or the other,
we've got to get that lucation fixed.

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We don't have any options. So
>> I think we're all aren't we all in

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agreement that that's our number one
priority?

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» Number one, we apply for the grants. If
we don't get the grant, then we look at

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the other option.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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» You're right.
That's three4s of our budget in one

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year.

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» No way you can do that.
What are the thoughts of a second on

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option one?

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» I mean like the money. Yeah. Yeah. But
I'm just really interested in option

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three.
>> Like if we get So I guess these are

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separate grants. Is that right? The
water well is a separate grant than the

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sanitary system.
>> It's all the same grant funding. same

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program, but they would be separate
applications, the the three options

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here. But really, it'd be you could
apply for sewer

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and or water.
You would just need to tell them what

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your priority is because if they're
looking at it and say, "Well,

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» I guess that like apply for both of
them." And if they're like, "We can only

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give you money for one of them."
Clearly, we all know what that one needs

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to be. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Number

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one option or the number one priority is
option three.

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» Second priority is option one.

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» I think it's silly to do option two to
apply for.

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» Yeah. Right now we can't we got to get
we got to get option three fixed.

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» Yeah.
>> I mean it would be amazing.

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Not many grants received over like a few
that have been a million or a little

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over.
>> Well, and then okay, is the 750,000

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included in that 300 3.275 million?
>> Yes. Yeah. So,

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» that knocks that down.
>> If you do option three, the next sewer

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project you would be looking at would be
maybe two and a half million or

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something like that.

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But at this time, option three is going
to take care of your biggest problems

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opportunity.
>> Is that what you're kind of thinking

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too? Is
>> are we aligned to the

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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» I'm good with it.
>> I'm good.

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» That's all I really need unless there's
any other questions. Like I said, we're

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within a week or so of wrapping up the
design on the sanitary side that's KDH

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for permits. Um I'll work with that some
information out in the grant

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application.
Number three is option three is the

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priority.
Option one with the water well project

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as a back.
>> Yep.

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» The only other thing I'd say end of
September applications last year it was

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like February before we found out the
grants were funded. So there's going to

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be a period of time just gonna radio
silence for us to say

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» if we have to start the project
before they say it's approved. We can't

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do that, can we?
>> Well, you

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probably not. It gets they say in the
application anything is done ahead of

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announcement the grant or the agreement
is in ineligible.

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» So it kind of gets into how how do we
split by her part? What has been done?

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What hasn't?
>> Yeah.

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I would recommend
if you can as much as you can

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» and as part of that planning that the
moving the list station too and how that

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is engineered when we have to move that
that part of his plans.

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» Yes.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. We've got it all taken care of.

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» Yeah. Already done. This finance deal.
>> Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that

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» you think of anything.
>> Yes. Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Hey

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We will now begin the hearing to exceed
the revenue neutral rate.

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In your packet, you will find the notice
of the proposed property tax increase

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for the different uh
areas around the USB 377, Bitten

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Township, uh Aerson County, and Epicam
provided that so you can kind of see

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where we're at with them.
Um and then resolution 202504

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goes through just uh going to exceed the
revenue neutral rate of 649.

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[Music]

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So basically from 2024 to 2025 it went
up 3,000

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gives me 3,783,000

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right
I looking at that right

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the amount of revenue from property

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24
to 25 proposed 25 total proposed 3.783

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million

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» doesn't

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count.
>> Yeah, that's the whole county. That's

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the total.
>> Okay.

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That's 24 24.7%.
Yeah,

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some chair's going down.

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for that sheet is the resolution.

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We just need to sign and show it.
I I'll bring the other

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» and that's what they're saying to
>> Oh, It went up a lot

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» for a vacant lot.
>> Mhm.

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» What is it?
>> Huh?

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» What is the lot?

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» It says vacant lot. It says
>> that's got to be the website where we

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haven't built the

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Where do you see it? Right here.
>> On the top.

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Oh, I know. Yeah.

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» So, what do you need? We need you guys.
We need to make function.

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» I I don't know if we recite it on the
record. There is nobody here at the

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public to make public comments. So there
is a public but it's a required part of

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the act. So
>> okay

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» that's what I was asking you I have to
say this because there's nobody here to

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comment.
>> You do

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» it's okay
>> or at least note that

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» note that there's nobody in the public
here to speak. Okay. Well nobody here

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nobody from the public is here to voice
their opinion. So

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» we need to make the council vote
>> I'll vote on exceed the rule right.

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resolution.
>> Okay.

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» Okay.
>> I thought we had already done that.

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» That's a roll call.
>> But this is like we

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» you adopt this to give notice that

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council member has to make a motion to
adopt the resolution.

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Oh, I make a motion to adopt the
resolution 2025-04

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for the city of Effingham that shall
levy a property tax rate exceeding the

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revenue neutral rate of 64.239
mills.

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» Hold on.
>> Okay. We have to do a roll call.

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» Yes.

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» Yes. Cheryl is Jenna.
>> Yes.

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» Andrew.
>> Yep.

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» Jesse.
>> Yes.

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Okay, we will now adjourn the hearing
for exceeding the revenue neutral rate.

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And we will now open the budget hearing.

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The last piece of paper
um

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is or the yes is the certificate.
This is the budget exceeding the revenue

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rates. Um,
this shows you where all of the

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different funds, what's going into the
different funds.

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So, the general fund will have
the 424,000.

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Um, when he was doing the budget, he
took a little bit out of everything and

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put it into the general because we can
transfer from the general to the other

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things.
I told them that we would probably be

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doing uh some street projects as well as
maybe some sewer projects. So those are

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a little bit higher this budget than
last budget. And so that

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and you can see the total is 932,87.

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My question
we have a copy of last year's budget. I

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can try to find Yeah, we I would like to
have one.

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I if I recall correctly,
last year's budget was like 1.2 million.

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If I'm thinking correctly,
we're going down $300,000

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for this year.

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Yeah,

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» I looked for a copy and I started

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» and I mean we don't really know what is
left in the budget for each of the

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different funds either.

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So,
>> I mean,

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» I mean, I know this is going to be our
budget, but I'm just bringing up the

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fact that huge cut. $300,000. It's a
huge cut.

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And granted that maybe they overbudgeted
it, but I guess my question is is

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this is something I guess we should have
talked about earlier was from what I

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understood on budgeting is is that if
you don't spend it, which I know this

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from being in the corporate world, you
don't spend it, they're not going to

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give it to you again.
So I don't know that had an impact on

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this. I don't know what portion. I mean,
why would it get cut $300,000?

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That's what I'm That's the question I'm
asking. Is that if 1.2 million is

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correct? I don't know. I just thought it
was

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I may be off on that. It may have been
one million,

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but
that's one million here. Okay. But

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Last year in the streets it was 10 he
had budgeted $10,000 for this year

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» 10
because last a year prior to that it was

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110,000.
>> Gotcha. And then it got budgeted for

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10,000 because he said he put it back in
general fund which I get that because

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you can transfer out the general fund
and put it back into the street fund. I

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get that part
but

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the general funds a lot less this year.

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» Pardon me.

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» Yeah. But what I'm saying is is if you
And then I mean I don't know if the

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public is the same thing as corporate
but in corporate if you don't spend it

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you don't get it next year.
>> So if we didn't spend as much as

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we should have for the county you know
to look at or whatever then that's

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probably why we didn't get as much this
year.

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So I don't know. We also haven't spent
any money on our streets yet, right?

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» Do you think that affects it since it
hasn't been that kind of stuff?

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» December.
>> It's January. Yeah,

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» it was 1.1. I direct 1.1.
>> See, like the general fund last year was

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605,000.
This year it's 424,000.

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» There's your There's your decrease right
there.

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» Well, he said he added more to that and
it's less.

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» So, I can't remember how. And no debt
service, but I don't know if that

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» debt service we don't need to worry
about because that was that was

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something that's been in there forever
and ever and ever and it was really

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never ever should have been in there.
>> Okay. So, that's

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» we took that out and that got added back
into should have been back added back

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into general. Our employee benefits have
gone down and we have more employees,

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right? We have another full-time
employee

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max.
>> Yeah, it went down. We were looking

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$13,000 there.

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» The water utility or the water in the
sewer stayed about the same.

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» Pool went up. Pool went down a lot. The
pool went down by almost half.

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Why would employee benefits went down
13,000? Doesn't make any sense.

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» Insurance

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I mean that would be something too
because I didn't take insurance.

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» So that could be
>> that could be a portion.

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» That could be part of it. Yeah.
>> You also that's also part of benefits is

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capers and
>> stuff like that too.

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» You have to do that. I have to do. We
have

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» Yeah, that's requirement.
>> Yeah.

428
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,000
» Yeah.
>> Which is

429
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:55,599
» But I I mean, and I probably It's
probably too late to do anything about

430
00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:00,960
it right now, but I I'm just raising
some concerns on that, but I should have

431
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:11,200
raised them all.
I can't remember what Roger said about

432
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:18,079
um why it like 1.1 from last year to 9.3
or 9 130,000 the upcoming year. But he

433
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:24,320
had a reason why.
I think it was based on

434
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:27,200
the amount we're using this year. So
we're not close to that 1.1.

435
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,320
» You're right.
>> Yeah. If you don't spend it, you don't

436
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,960
get it.
That's that's just the way budgets are.

437
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Yeah. So I think that's the reason why
you think you can't make that judgment.

438
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:43,280
» But you if you're not operating on an FY
that ends in October, how can you judge

439
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,280
budget?
>> Agreed.

440
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,960
» September.
>> Agreed. But what you want to do is

441
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,880
» spent
>> this is something that we need to figure

442
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,599
out for next year because next year we
need to do. You need to figure out the

443
00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:00,160
spin down. They call it a spin down.
>> Yeah. That would be like we'd have to

444
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:03,920
spend you'd have to operate like you're
operating that flight that if October

445
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:09,760
like the army, right?
>> You spend everything that you got in

446
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,800
July and August so that when this comes
down

447
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,920
» if you especially like right now if you
want to be up for 1.1 again,

448
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:22,079
» we'd have to overspend like a joke in
August and in August.

449
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:25,680
» Well, we're trying hard.
>> I mean I mean that's just

450
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:28,560
» right. You're right. You're right.
That's how it works. It doesn't make

451
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,440
sense, but that's how it works
>> to get the money we need to survive next

452
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,160
year,
>> right? But our XY doesn't end until

453
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,520
December.
>> No. No. And I get that. But if the

454
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:44,160
budgets if the budget's happening now,
we have to And I mean, maybe maybe it's

455
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:48,480
based off pattern of spending, too.
Throughout the first eight months of the

456
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,400
year, your pattern of spending has been
X, Y, and Z. So this is what we're

457
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:58,400
budgeting you for because this is what
we foresee you spending next year

458
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,599
» for the 12 months
that I mean

459
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,720
» well and you know I mean like I thought
you know I thought maybe we would have

460
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,400
those streets I mean that's no you know
I know proof paving is busy and stuff I

461
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,960
think that would maybe helped us a
little bit because that was $100,000

462
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,880
right there.
>> No.

463
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,720
» So that would have suck that would have
sucked that down pretty good. And so

464
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:21,280
then we may have and you know if that
had happened we may have been back up to

465
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:26,480
the 1.1. Who knows? We don't we don't
know that. But that's what it's all

466
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:29,520
about is is that you know and I know we
want to save our money and I agree I

467
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:33,599
agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm big
on you know that part of it. But you

468
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:38,800
also get to a point where you're shoot
yourself in the foot for the next year.

469
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:45,839
But how are you bending your budget too?
Like how how's the budget fit before

470
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:51,280
whoever does this piece of paper?
Like I know I had to annually fit my

471
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:56,720
budget for the month for a month basis,
right? I say I'm going to spend I'd

472
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:02,640
always over I'm going to spend $260,000
a month. That's what I'm spending parts

473
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:07,359
everything. They project that out over
the course of a year and I get close to

474
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:13,119
that amount. If I don't have if I'm not
close to spending that amount in July,

475
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:18,160
they say you need to spend $90,000 today
so that you're making

476
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:22,240
» like if we're not if you're not making a
bid on, hey, this is what we think we're

477
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,920
going to be spending this year. Like how
do they know how to judge those numbers,

478
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,000
too?
>> So,

479
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:34,640
» yeah, that's a big part of it. Well, we
definitely know we're going to need like

480
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:38,000
as part of the budget the equipment,
>> right? Like and that's what I was saying

481
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:42,640
like how how are we coming up with these
numbers if we're not saying I know I've

482
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,800
got to spend this much this year.
>> We need to project

483
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,640
» on on on the equipment or the least. I
know this is what we're spending. So

484
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,320
that needs to be put in the budget. We
want to do things to the blue building

485
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:57,680
and do a city shop. We need to project
that money into the budget. But that's

486
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:02,160
not here.
>> Okay. Okay. So, how do you

487
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,000
» Yeah, that's something I mean we need to
we need to work out some type of

488
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:09,599
projection schedule
like what you're saying in the fact that

489
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:13,920
we're saying okay we got this project
this project equipment we got this and

490
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:19,680
this and this work out a projection
schedule for by month I mean you're

491
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:23,520
talking monthly and for the next year
for next budget I mean it's too late

492
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:29,440
this year but we can get into it for the
2027 budget and have that done by

493
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,680
October or actually before then have it
done by August.

494
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,760
» Okay.
>> And then submit that and saying here's

495
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:39,119
what our projections are because I don't
think this I don't think we've ever done

496
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,280
anything like that here.
>> Theoretically after your first after

497
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:48,800
first quarter you should have a good
pattern of spending project out the

498
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,480
following three quarters
>> and you include in that like a project

499
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:56,160
like the sewer you know you include
emergencies in there. How you come up

500
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:01,040
with that number, I'm not sure, but we'd
have to come go back and look.

501
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,839
» Well, and we'd have a that's a good but
that's a good basis for us to base it

502
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,200
on.
>> So, average.

503
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,200
» Yeah. And so then next year when we go,
we need to come up with some kind of a I

504
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:15,280
know there's some kind of spreadsheet
out there that you can do it on,

505
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:19,119
» but come up with some kind of projected
expenditure spreadsheet and say, "Here's

506
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:22,160
what we're looking at. Here's for
streets. Here's for sewer. Here's for

507
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:27,280
water. Here's for the blue building.
Here's for the pool. you know, cover

508
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:33,680
everything that we can and get that so
that we don't get shorted on our budget.

509
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,720
So,
>> obviously not this year problem, but

510
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,359
something that
>> yeah, next year

511
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:45,000
» when we're talking about big projects
that we do challenge, there's only one.

512
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:53,040
» I mean, that's something that we'll have
to do. I mean

513
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,760
» I apologize.
>> Why are you apologizing?

514
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:01,280
» It's not my desk. He needs to clear
>> but

515
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:04,319
» well and part of it I mean part of it
>> could work together. I mean

516
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:08,400
» part of it is too we have to know
monthly what our budget amount we have

517
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,160
to know monthly what our budget amount
was and then how much we spent out of

518
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:16,400
that fund because without that
information we're shooting in the dark,

519
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:19,359
» right? But trying to do that off the
last year of commerce is already going

520
00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:23,599
to be a problem because the system
change that you guys went through.

521
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:28,240
» So solidifying whatever system they're
using finance right now that already

522
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,760
breaks it down by fund. You have to
start you can't do it off last year. You

523
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:37,040
have to do it off of what you're doing
now for the next six months. Right.

524
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,400
» You got there's general ledger accounts
and you can pull in general ledger

525
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,280
accounts and they will tell you what you
spent your money for.

526
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:45,839
» Absolutely. And so then you could get a
good estimate off of those general

527
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,960
ledger accounts.
>> Y

528
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,400
» and you could know by fund what you're
spending.

529
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,839
» Yeah.
>> If it's just applied. I mean, it's going

530
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,520
to have to be some work done on it. And
that's what's going to have to happen to

531
00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:01,359
say, hey, pull out and see how much did
we spend on streets because we have

532
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,160
that, you know, see how much we spent
with approved paving, see how much we

533
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,079
spent on coal patch, see how much we
spent on this and this. Add those up. I

534
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:14,839
mean, it's not hard.
>> So, put it all together. So,

535
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:14,839
I'm not I'm just

536
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,000
So, but that Yeah, it's too late to do
it this year, but next year we

537
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:28,240
definitely need to do that.
>> So, like this is this we can't

538
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:31,200
» Yeah, it's that we have to have our
budget in.

539
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:35,040
» When do we have to have the budget?
>> I have to have this budget in by October

540
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,040
1st.
>> Yes.

541
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:48,119
We'll just have to learn to go $200,000
less

542
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:48,119
doing Scott.

543
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,400
» We spend that much in repairs on the
old. We can spend that much repairs on

544
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:03,520
the old stuff.
>> I already got stickers. They said you

545
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:06,520
have something
back.

546
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,760
» But no, I mean I think that's part of,
you know, I mean, let's face it, the

547
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,599
city's a business and you got to run it
like a business. And for us to be able

548
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,560
to run it like a business, we have to
know what we have in every fund. We have

549
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,680
to know what's been spent out of every
fund. We have to know, I mean,

550
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:29,359
everything. Because if you don't, your
budget's worthless. I'm sorry. You just

551
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:34,359
are shooting blanks into the wind
because it ain't nothing's gonna come

552
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:34,359
out right.

553
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,280
» I'm just glad we got a copy of last
year's because I didn't have a copy of

554
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:57,560
it.
You never get a copy, did you?

555
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,560
» I don't remember.

556
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,400
Let's just say that copy is not easy
without copy.

557
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:09,480
» Okay, that probably sounds our sends our
answer.

558
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,480
» So,

559
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,240
Okay.
>> Well, so I mean I'm feeling so we can

560
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:27,280
make a motion, but I feel like we're not
going to adopt it. Like

561
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:32,440
I think we have no choice. But
>> we don't have no choice. We don't have a

562
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,440
choice. You're going to have to

563
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,000
because we can't, you know, like
everybody's saying we don't know what we

564
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,480
spent for us to pull all that
information together. It's going to be

565
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:50,640
taking longer than a month.
So

566
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:56,079
the 932 878 puts us at the 80.339
ms. If we want more money in here, we're

567
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:01,040
going to have to go up to like the 90
mills,

568
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:05,839
something above that. So if you look on
that first page, I have this total at

569
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:13,040
80.138
under 2025 at 13615.

570
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,599
We're going to have to increase that
number to 80.138.

571
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:28,480
» Does that make sense?
>> So then you're saying if we wanted to

572
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:32,720
increase it'd be closer to 90.
>> Yeah.

573
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:37,960
» Is it How much is it per every meal? How
much dollars is for every meal?

574
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:37,960
» I think it's $136.15.

575
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:45,240
» Yeah.
Okay. Sorry. Look at me at home.

576
00:47:51,920 --> 00:48:02,200
» I don't know. I mean, I
>> What happens if we go over budget?

577
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
» We're broke.

578
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,800
If we spend more than 932 93

579
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,720
» 932,00

580
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,480
» I mean federal government just keeps
printing. So

581
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:25,280
» what
>> we do that like hey we need some more

582
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,200
money
extra stacks of hundreds for us.

583
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:36,319
» Here's another question. This does not
include our money markets, right?

584
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:39,680
» I don't believe it does.
>> And those are for emergencies.

585
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:43,680
» Yes.
But if we exceed the budget, then that

586
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,720
would probably be an emergency
situation. So,

587
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:52,000
» but here's the other I'm going to play
double advocate. They're water and

588
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,160
sewer. They've been designated as water
and sewer. So, are they eligible to be

589
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,040
spent on anything other than water and
sewer? We we emergencies have been

590
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:02,720
water. We're spending lots of money on
water.

591
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:05,920
» Well, I know. I mean, I know the
emergency.

592
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:10,000
» Yeah.
>> Think with the new equipment because

593
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:15,280
that'd be the only extra large expense,
right? With the new equipment,

594
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:21,520
» it should be
it should be okay.

595
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:25,839
I I'll make the motion pass it. I make
the motion that I make the motion to

596
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,880
adopt 20 2026 budget for the city of
Effinghams as presented.

597
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,079
» Second

598
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,160
roll.

599
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:49,680
» Yes.
>> Yes. Andrew.

600
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,240
» Yes.
>> Jesse.

601
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,359
We also have to say there was nobody
here for this hearing too.

602
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Yeah, it's okay.
>> Who knows? They may not approve the

603
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:24,960
$932,000
at

604
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:28,440
county
right there going.

605
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:35,520
» I hope they didn't.
>> Probably they get off the shop and give

606
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,880
it to us.
>> Oh, no. I found out today that the shop

607
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:43,839
loan is not coming for taxes. It's
coming from the cell about senior

608
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:48,040
citizen
should sign

609
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:05,079
the package.
>> H

610
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,079
» I got another packet for her.

611
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,480
» I don't want the Okay.

612
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:24,280
Everyone makes a

613
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,720
See, it doesn't seem

614
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:47,760
All right.
Well, now you're the budget hearing.

615
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,760
I will call the order to regular
meeting.

616
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Thank you guys very much.
>> Thank you.

617
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,400
» I appreciate the detailed workflow.

618
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,680
I'm just read

619
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:33,640
provided
all that. Here are the bills.

620
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:49,119
A lot of the bills are Ryan.
We didn't pay the first

621
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:55,839
» Ryan just I didn't write everything down
on there.

622
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:59,160
» Text me calls. I'm like more money.
>> I can't just

623
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:06,800
» wait a second. Wait a second. You better
1.1 million.

624
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:11,040
So,
>> well, I feel like the majority of the

625
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,920
spending's been done in the last, you
know, five months or so.

626
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,680
» I was trying to go back in time.
>> Yeah.

627
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:26,480
» You just say, you know, I'm working if
I'm spending money.

628
00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:30,520
» That's right. When I stop spending
money, you guys got a real problem.

629
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:36,000
» I did make notes on the bills for what
we have to spend the money on. So you

630
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,000
guys know
>> an alignment.

631
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,599
» Yeah.
>> Well, that

632
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:48,200
» Yeah. And they tell me I need new tires,
but because we don't go out of town

633
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,200
often, I'm not too concerned.

634
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:57,240
budget for next year.
budget next year.

635
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:57,240
» Next

636
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,680
thing that battery was a trailer
battery.

637
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:31,960
a grease gun.
>> What about $500?

638
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:31,960
» That's a battery operated grease.

639
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,720
» I have no idea what it is. So, I'm like
literally just like pushing your buttons

640
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:45,920
right now.
>> It should come with one of those.

641
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:49,599
» No, but we do get money for grease. So,
when I said, "Hey, all we're responsible

642
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:54,720
for is greasing the equipment." We're
responsible to grease equipment, but

643
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:59,440
they're going to start sending us money
to pay for grease.

644
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,240
» They won't send the grease. That's
interesting.

645
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:05,760
» It's easier for them to spend money than
ship.

646
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:11,160
» Well, they're here every week.
>> They were at Austin,

647
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,160
right?

648
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,040
Yeah.
>> Jesus for the pumpkin.

649
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:26,160
» Oh my god.
>> The pumpkin.

650
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,200
» I love you detail. I like
>> the pumpkin in the office.

651
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,599
And then

652
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:44,319
» it
like why why do we use

653
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:47,319
» Is this a is this a code word or
something?

654
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:57,760
» Well, she's while you guys looking over
bills, I'm going to go print off the

655
00:55:54,559 --> 00:56:01,400
minutes from the previous meeting. Sorry
guys, I was like super

656
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:16,799
» Yeah, Ryan.
>> Yep. What's up?

657
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:21,599
» Here's a battery up on gun.
>> That's awesome.

658
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:24,400
» What size batteries does it
>> the same ones we got? The Milwaukee

659
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:30,119
batteries with
>> big batteries. The return on $32

660
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:34,680
» fuses for the pumpkin $10.95.

661
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,480
» I don't really want to do this
recording.

662
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,319
Call it frivolous spending.
>> Frivolous.

663
00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:52,559
» There's no frivolous spending.
>> I promise you I don't spend money in

664
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:57,079
something.
>> I do appreciate the detail of it.

665
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,119
I'm not out there.
>> No, I do. I What is this?

666
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,160
» So, that was when
>> Oh, jet. Okay.

667
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:12,160
» Because we had that one collection
wasn't running any solids. So, we had to

668
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:17,839
have the line in camera
>> to make sure that there wasn't a

669
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:23,119
I mean, our biggest concern was we had
protrusion on it.

670
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:27,920
B&G is also operating under the
assumption that those lines are PVC and

671
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:33,119
they're not
>> had to break that news to say because

672
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:36,880
apparently they redid those
some years ago. Those two collection

673
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:41,760
points
and when we came they've been lined.

674
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,400
Somebody came through and lined them but
they are all still clay pipe. Um I don't

675
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,520
know what that's going to do. Change it.
I'll let Sam know.

676
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,880
I don't know what that does to change
anything for him, but

677
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:48,000
biggest thing when you look at that
people inv

678
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:52,400
time out that's how much that costs
I do not know what it's going to cost

679
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,240
» that's what I say
>> don't look like

680
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:59,599
» well we had no other option
>> we just at the time the only thing I

681
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:02,640
knew was
I know Austin can't pump it but he's a

682
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,640
little bit closer
Okay.

683
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,680
» $264.

684
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,240
» Yeah.

685
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:29,520
» Yeah. do sunset1
every time I do a like we had to do dig

686
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:35,040
safe for the sign every time I do one
not much just enough to keep the website

687
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:39,920
load I guess
>> dig safe

688
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,359
but if somebody else calls it they have
to pay it

689
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:47,400
» yeah we only pay for what we call and
I've only called it twice

690
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,880
weekend.
>> That one is the officing

691
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:19,760
the construction of the subdivision.
>> Pretty much.

692
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:22,240
» Was that too?
student.

693
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:27,280
» Oh, they're the same one.
>> No, I have the 13th and the 28th.

694
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,440
» Oh, okay.
>> That one.

695
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:39,880
» No, you were. You know, you were right.
>> We should be a buffalo owners.

696
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:46,760
» I don't know.
>> Invoice for consulting services.

697
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:53,760
I feel
butter.

698
01:00:50,640 --> 01:01:01,559
» What do you think?
>> Couldn't hear the whole discussion.

699
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,559
» It's an invoice for

700
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:11,520
certified construction observer
for the Boff subdivision

701
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:17,599
that came to from B&G consultants came
to the city.

702
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:21,839
We had discussion about this and you
might call we had a bit of an argument

703
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:25,040
with PG consultants about it.
>> Okay.

704
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:28,559
» But it was approved by by the commission
because my part of the council my my

705
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:32,480
concern was I didn't really think they
were sticking

706
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,079
with that.
>> But I don't understand why the city's

707
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:42,400
got to pay somebody to observe the
construction.

708
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:47,520
Like that seems
frivolous.

709
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:50,960
Then construction has to do with
infrastructure.

710
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:56,960
» That's what I can say.
>> They're making sure that everything

711
01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:04,559
they're actually building
>> and if something goes on look at he let

712
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:10,799
us make sense otherwise me or Max have
to sit down.

713
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:18,359
You don't cost.
>> I do not.

714
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,359
» That makes sense. That makes sense.

715
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:25,520
» Yeah. But I also feel like there's a
plan and there's designs and there's

716
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:29,599
» you need to make sure that they're
following plans

717
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,599
» because otherwise they
>> because I know for when they when they

718
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:40,400
tied into a sewer line I had to be there
because it's tying in or city line.

719
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,720
» I shouldn't have said it that way. It's
not that they won't.

720
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,640
» Right. No, no. There's nothing
guaranteeing

721
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:52,640
» if they don't the expense to the city to
fix it is likely many times

722
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,880
» that
makes sense.

723
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:24,240
I did notice on the August 28th meeting
minutes I spelled the letter wrong and

724
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:29,640
used an A instead of
it. So it's a latter. Yeah.

725
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:38,039
think I'm just

726
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:55,720
» Oh, I think turn up the turn up the
>> It's was set to 72. Thank goodness

727
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,400
you guys.

728
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:11,160
Sorry I didn't have these printed. I'm
not on my game list.

729
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:18,440
We will care.
We all make mistakes.

730
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,200
all the time. I know.

731
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,720
I'm at the city.

732
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:03,079
It's going to be

733
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,720
» a question.

734
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:17,079
That's

735
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,599
» no because

736
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:33,319
» building the library.

737
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:45,799
» City library. Okay.
$433.

738
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:45,799
Feel

739
01:05:50,480 --> 01:06:00,960
like something is very not right here.
>> What is it? The water the water.

740
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:04,079
» So this says 420 mains
daycare.

741
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,960
» That doesn't make sense.
>> Oh, we don't need to pay for that.

742
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:15,839
» We don't. That's not all.
>> Shouldn't our That's in our building.

743
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:22,720
Do we buy it and we just don't know it?
>> No, I don't know.

744
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,720
I think it's useful.
>> Yeah.

745
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,720
» Well, has it been paid?

746
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:46,760
Yeah,
>> I want you guys to I don't really

747
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:55,400
you don't have the bills from last time
which doesn't

748
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,480
help just the energy

749
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,000
keep sending back they are

750
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:25,280
I get a second on this one. How does the
lift station use

751
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:28,920
as much energy
as this ability?

752
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:33,200
» Well, it's constant.

753
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,559
So you think

754
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:46,160
» that'd be Edwards. That's a suburb
station.

755
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:52,960
» 308 First Street lift station. That's
one.

756
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:56,079
» No, the only one we first street is the
corners.

757
01:07:53,599 --> 01:08:00,319
» Oh,
>> that one runs all the time though,

758
01:07:57,359 --> 01:08:02,160
doesn't it?
>> Yeah. I

759
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:08,079
» that doesn't run all the time. But I'm
wondering if that is the if if by

760
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:14,000
station maybe if it's the pump house
because the pump house is an AC unit in

761
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:20,560
it that runs all the time. It's got
pumps in it. It's got five breaker

762
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:24,560
always run by. It's going to use some
energy in there. And the generator kicks

763
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:31,000
on.
>> And the generator kicks on once a week.

764
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,000
So

765
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:37,440
We didn't have power this year.
>> Yeah, we sure did.

766
01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:44,159
» What was I in the middle of?
>> Not even here. It was is I got my house,

767
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:46,080
too. So clear all my life.
>> Usually if we lose power, you'll lose

768
01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:51,279
power.
>> Do you Do we know what happened?

769
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:54,279
» Right. Yeah, we're on the same
11.

770
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:03,239
But this place

771
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:12,159
switching things over to different names
is

772
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:16,719
» incredibly difficult and timeconuming.
>> Could it just say like city?

773
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:21,920
» Where did you see the um address on
those

774
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:24,920
» top rights under ever? It shows service
location

775
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:32,239
» street lights.
Which one are we looking at?

776
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:37,120
» 420.
>> 420. Yeah, this city building.

777
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:42,759
» And then under here it says city
library.

778
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,759
» I don't know why the library.

779
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:53,279
» We paid it last week too.
>> Last week.

780
01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:58,679
» Right. But how did we go from 1,400 in
June to 2900 in July and 20?

781
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:06,960
But 420 is not
>> not our address.

782
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,560
» No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But your total
bill is that you're talking about

783
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,199
» how much was the one in
>> Are you talking about

784
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:17,040
» in August it was 4422?
>> Yeah. But last August it was

785
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:24,800
» 1,600
>> and this August it was 28.

786
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:31,120
» And I see what you're saying.
>> No the usage.

787
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:34,560
It says 420 maid, but then down here it
says city library. The city library is

788
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:41,040
not 420 m.
>> No, but the usage could be attributed to

789
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:46,480
how hot it was the AC. I mean the AC
constantly. This it was hot this year.

790
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:49,920
» Last year though was hot.
>> It was for a couple.

791
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:54,239
» I feel like it was hotter last year for
a longer period.

792
01:10:51,760 --> 01:11:00,360
Last year was hotter because in May our
kids were like dying playing ball and

793
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,360
they were not this year.

794
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,360
» Okay, I give up.
>> You have a phone call to make tomorrow.

795
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:11,040
I want to know what 420 main is and why
we're getting charged for

796
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:17,280
» that's not our service address.
>> Sorry. Sorry to be like that, but wow.

797
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:21,840
first thing in the morning.
>> 7 a.m.

798
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:25,199
» They're not going to be open till 8:30.
>> 8:31

799
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:31,040
I've done that.
>> Anyway, that caught my attention. That's

800
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:36,320
a heavy $400 and some bill.
>> There's $400.

801
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,920
» The library be separ It shouldn't be.
It's the It's on It should be the same.

802
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,840
There's only one meter on this building,
right?

803
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:47,440
» It's the same meter.
>> No, it shouldn't be. So something is not

804
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:50,640
ready.
>> But we've been paying it for Yeah, but

805
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:57,560
we've been paying it for a long time.
>> At least we'll get a big

806
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,560
» Yeah, just

807
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:03,520
donation.
>> I don't know. Is there even power on?

808
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:07,239
» That's what I'm wondering. Why would the
power even be on?

809
01:12:11,679 --> 01:12:20,080
Sorry guys, that was a long
thing.

810
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:25,870
» Does everybody have a chance to look at
it?

811
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:28,939
» Was there a second on Kathy's,
[Music]

812
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:39,120
» doesn't it?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure there was

813
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,199
» this one right here.
One above it. Is that what you wrote on

814
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:47,080
it?
>> Yeah, it says dear.

815
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:47,080
» Yes. Yes.

816
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:58,440
I move that we approve the minutes with
that amendation

817
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:08,920
» amendment
>> for August 14th for both August 28th and

818
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,920
the August

819
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:18,800
I'll second
all in favor

820
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,800
any oppos

821
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,679
have a motion to approve

822
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:43,560
all the
energy's priority inflation. Ivon

823
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:53,679
need a motion to move from all except
for that energy energy bill which we

824
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:57,199
discussed a while ago.
>> If it's then do you

825
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,600
» any corrections to be made then we'll
pass it time.

826
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:08,080
» I'll second that. If that was a motion
the motion.

827
01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:11,320
» All in favor I
any opposed?

828
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,480
jumping basically if something's not
right

829
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,040
for this building.

830
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:37,320
» Anyway, so back to the super

831
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:46,120
Why would the library

832
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,480
blue building

833
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:57,679
if there were two meters? They share a
necklace.

834
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:02,080
» Yeah.
>> One would be like a half or something

835
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:07,000
» or sweet a or half or something.
>> Yeah.

836
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:07,000
» To distinguish the two.

837
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,400
I just saw that.

838
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:30,800
You just have the wrong address on
there.

839
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:40,600
There's a blue building on there.
It says city. No, it says city building.

840
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,600
blue building or it's here.

841
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:47,640
This one says city blue building, but it
doesn't have a service tax on this one.

842
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:53,800
You got lots of money straight out.

843
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:13,719
Well, it also makes me wonder

844
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,480
just

845
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,880
thank

846
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:43,199
Oh, we got a new equipment. Uh, we're
going to work graphs the shop area

847
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:50,800
getting ready. I got a call from the
insurance company about the lean tube.

848
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:55,600
Uh, they are in contact with the
adjuster that came out and did the

849
01:16:52,880 --> 01:17:02,320
adjustment of the shelter house and link
to. So, I went to hear back from them.

850
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:08,000
Um, I went over to LNL today, paid the
deposit, dropped off the sign bid.

851
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:13,520
They're going to load the roof tomorrow.
Um, and depending on what time they come

852
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:20,320
loaded, it shouldn't take long.
I would I wouldn't think it's not that

853
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:24,239
big. Um, and then included in the bit
was the gutters. So, they're going to

854
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:28,000
come out replacing gutters. So, was
originally the color.

855
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,679
Um,
>> look nice.

856
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:32,960
» Mhm.
>> Yeah. And then everybody's going to look

857
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:37,520
at the paint because the paint's
starting to look like crap, too. So, me

858
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:42,560
and Max get out. Yeah. Me and Max may
get out and start painting those once

859
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,560
the weather kind of levels out right
now.

860
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:56,640
» Yeah. Well, I mean for the next few days
hopefully the humidity here days

861
01:17:54,080 --> 01:18:00,719
» right for Thursday, Friday and Saturday
and then it looks like the temperature

862
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:06,400
out next week which should be really
nice. Uh we are cutting down to one bowl

863
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:11,840
and going to go ahead and winterize this
all the numbers that we got. Um, I mowed

864
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:15,400
the entire town day
and then he needed

865
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:24,480
three days or whatever. Just whatever we
could get out. So that way we got we can

866
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:30,239
put somebody doing something else
besides mowing and we just not have to

867
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:32,880
worry about paying for basically the
rest of the year.

868
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,800
» And Kate's done, right?
>> Yep.

869
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:39,760
» Yeah. Um,
>> you just have to have your weed eater

870
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:42,640
with you and weed.
>> I've been carrying the weed eater around

871
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:46,320
in the truck. So, every time we go
somewhere, if I'm like, "Oh, it needs

872
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:52,000
weed," I just hop out.
>> One of us will hop out and it just makes

873
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:56,480
it go a lot faster. Um, we're going to
fall spray

874
01:18:54,719 --> 01:19:01,440
um again
um probably here in the next hopefully

875
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:06,960
at the end month if everything go. I
sprayed again all this week. Um sent Max

876
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:14,480
out and
sprayed all the streets again. Um

877
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:19,360
I
I think so you guys had to do a motion

878
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:23,920
to sell the bucket truck and now that we
have the new equipment, I think we need

879
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:28,480
to move forward with less than the other
stuff on purple wave.

880
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:32,640
» Yeah. The mini excavator.
>> You got the backhoe.

881
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:37,360
to backho and
>> tractor.

882
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:40,480
» So I tractor
is gonna work.

883
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:46,800
» Tractor tractor and brush hog we're
going to hang on to um into spring. I

884
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:51,600
don't plan on using it.
>> Until then really um everything looks

885
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:56,080
good right now that we've been brush
hoging. We'll probably brush hog the new

886
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:01,679
well site probably one more time before
everything goes normal. But besides

887
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:06,560
that, we shouldn't need to use it much.
Um, we've been using the box blade to

888
01:20:03,679 --> 01:20:12,480
spread gravel, but that's been about it.
Um, so we will hang on to those things.

889
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,440
Everything else though,
>> we should get some big dollars out of

890
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,480
the mini excavator because he hasn't
been

891
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:24,640
» I think many I think
I have to find the paperwork, but I

892
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:30,000
think it was like between 60 and 75,000
was what we paid for. But like 36 hours

893
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,600
since it was on
>> 36 hours

894
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,560
brand new.
>> Biggest thing is biggest thing is those

895
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:38,159
36 hours.
>> We didn't buy it right here, did we?

896
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,679
» Yeah,
>> we did buy it.

897
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,280
» Yeah.
>> So the biggest thing is when it was

898
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:47,679
bought, they roeded it a lot. So like
the tracks aren't the best shape because

899
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:51,760
they're not meant to be off all the
time. So, I mean, we it's one of those

900
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:58,480
things we're gonna
>> we could probably get 40 40 to 45 out of

901
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,640
» that cover some couple months payments
on the

902
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:04,640
» Were they still interested in some of
the that valley at the bucket?

903
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,520
» I haven't heard anything else from Wes.
He came down, took pictures. Um, he took

904
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:12,640
it to his city council meeting last
week.

905
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:17,199
» Maybe
I just have Sorry.

906
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:22,480
I just have her back thrown, but it's
it's definitely a

907
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:26,480
city of Valley Falls has better things
to worry about right now than buying a

908
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:30,960
bunch of trucks.
>> They got a lot of internal problems.

909
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:39,040
» They got things on too. They got they
got stuff too. Um I did I texted Brian

910
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:42,920
with B&G. I don't know. I don't know. I
talked to Katie about it.

911
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:50,880
Eggman
when they put in the new water line they

912
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:54,719
did it by tap right in a JJ. They flush
that line twice.

913
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:58,639
I was told they were going to flush
line. I just wasn't told when they're

914
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:05,520
going to flush line. We ended up having
a resident that has brown water, but

915
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:09,679
it's only her house um that has brown
water. Uh I went to the house

916
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:14,639
surrounding it. I went to the end.
Nobody else has brown water. So, I'm

917
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:19,360
assuming that it has to do with
something in her house. It's not our

918
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:23,199
piping at all, but I did tell them like
next time we do something like that, you

919
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:27,840
can even give the city a heads up so
that we can let put it out on Facebook,

920
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:32,480
do a redness or whatever, just let
people know it's going to happen. If

921
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:36,800
people did lose water pressure,
>> basically Dollar General up to the

922
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:42,639
school would lost because that's all
that that line flushed out. So

923
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:45,040
» they abs I I really feel like they
should not be doing any of that during

924
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,360
the day,
>> you know,

925
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:48,960
» because we can't lose water,
>> right?

926
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:52,800
» And uh
>> again, I just I was kind of like I don't

927
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:56,000
really feel like you should be messing
with the water lines without somebody

928
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:02,320
present.
>> So to come full circle to that that FG

929
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:08,560
salt spill, Brian wasn't there that day.
He was the guy that he would have called

930
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:12,639
me and let me know, hey, Egleman's gonna
flush the lines at this time.

931
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,639
» Well, we're paying them.
>> There's another B&G consultant there

932
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:22,080
that I've never met before.
>> So B&G had a presence there. I just

933
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:24,320
don't know who they
>> keep,

934
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:29,760
» right? He didn't let me know.
>> Did you know why he didn't let you know?

935
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:33,360
» I'm sure Brian may have passed off or he
may not. Yeah,

936
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:37,040
» I was I was more concerned with whether
or not that was about issue whether or

937
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,080
not I had,
>> you know.

938
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:42,480
» Yeah.
>> We went searching, couldn't find

939
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:46,239
anything. Then I saw the valve switch
that had a valve key on her valve that

940
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:52,080
goes over there. I was like, "Oh, I've
got two flush lines." I walked out there

941
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:57,480
lines. So that was probably the that was
most likely the source of why.

942
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,480
» When was that?

943
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:04,080
» Oh, okay.
No, it was Monday.

944
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,000
» It was Monday because before
>> because I was at work because I couldn't

945
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,080
answer
>> right after we got the equipment because

946
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:14,239
I was ready to go out drive the new skid
steer like we had to go up there.

947
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:18,320
» Yes, because I couldn't take your call
because I was at work. Sorry.

948
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:24,159
» Um,
so that's that. There's a class for lift

949
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,360
stations and maintenance coming up in
October.

950
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:32,120
» Yeah.
>> That I want to go to. It's like 350

951
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,120
bucks. It's incend.

952
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,120
So I probably have to stay the night
down there.

953
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:41,280
» Got your hotel. You got your cardia
meal.

954
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:44,239
» I just need you guys to
so I can go do it.

955
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,719
» Go for it.
>> Slide me up.

956
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:51,480
» And then Max will be here.
>> Yep. Max will be here for that. Um

957
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:59,760
trying to think.
I'm sure I'm missing things. Uh

958
01:24:57,199 --> 01:25:03,120
we're gonna we got the we're starting
we're basically trying to get everything

959
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:06,880
wrapped up get ready for fall and winter
is where I'm at right now. Um once the

960
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:12,400
grass goes dormant we'll be able to
start getting back on alleys. But alleys

961
01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:16,320
seems kind of a fighting battle right
now because I'm fighting grass. So until

962
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:20,159
the grass goes dormant. I really don't
want to go out there and spend time

963
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:23,840
doing something. We did have them dump
the 20 tons of rock that they normally

964
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:29,440
dump at the rock pile. We had to come
out and dump at the city shop because we

965
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:34,800
were we had like 4 in mud on the ground.
So we went relay gravel. Max is going to

966
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:41,320
finish that up tomorrow while I'm gone
and then Friday we'll be loading up

967
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:41,320
gravel taking excess gravel.

968
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:51,679
That concludes my
>> What about where are we standing on FA's

969
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:57,239
yard? What's his name? Willie F.
It's still

970
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,239
that tall.

971
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,280
» The backyard.
>> Backyard. We talked about it last

972
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,360
meeting.
>> Is that one to six?

973
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:09,120
» Mhm.
>> That's one of the stuff out front of the

974
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:13,280
house.
>> Yeah.

975
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,520
I don't think I have got that. I'll go
and put

976
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:17,280
» it's that's this tall.
>> That's in the backyard. Yep.

977
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,440
» Yeah.
>> You can see it from front street. First

978
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:25,120
street.
>> Yeah. He mows the front or somebody mows

979
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:30,679
the front of
>> cuz it's got to be full of rodents and

980
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,679
everything else back there.

981
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:40,000
» Um
just to know it's probably like more of

982
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:44,320
a state thing, but like over here at the
corner by the blue like when those big

983
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,760
semis come and then they pop the curb
into the

984
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:52,480
» We filled that once since I've been
here. Um,

985
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:57,679
it gets worse when it obviously when it
rains and pushes everything out.

986
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:02,159
I don't know that there's an easier way
for them to get and because it's

987
01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:04,719
obviously their GPS that sends them that
way.

988
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:08,560
» So, I don't know if there's if it's
easier to go that way because they come

989
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:12,159
in by Dollar General, they come up to
Rick and they make that turn

990
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:16,560
» and I don't know if they make that turn
because up here at the wild Main Street

991
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:20,800
it's just difficult.
>> Yeah. I don't

992
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:26,320
» I watched one the other day I was out
around I knew I saw wide lift was coming

993
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:32,800
it was an empty wide just a big trailer
so my part my vehicle up there by the

994
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:37,040
park you know by well actually by rac
and they did not go in any of the yards

995
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,960
they they stayed in the street
>> but if you look on that body on the

996
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,000
north side there you can see there's
>> oh yeah there's a bunch of them too

997
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:49,920
» there there's clear black marks
everywhere on that curve just have the

998
01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:54,480
like extra drives or like when you walk
right in front of like that extra

999
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:57,600
» like it's almost like they need like
another

1000
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:01,280
or something like
>> Yeah, but that shouldn't be our

1001
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,520
» No, because state highway.
>> Yeah, state highway.

1002
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:06,960
» Right. Right. And that's it's probably
more we need to get with the state to

1003
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,600
see if they can wet that.
>> I mean,

1004
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:14,080
» no. Like and maybe it's silly like maybe
it's just a waste of but like there's a

1005
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:18,000
little tube or whatever. It's It's
broke, you know, a little drainage type

1006
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,480
thing you can see, but I don't know. And
then there's just rucks and I don't

1007
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:26,000
know.
>> I can reach out. I can call Joe and

1008
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:29,239
figure out who I should talk to. I don't
>> I don't know.

1009
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:35,040
» Yes, there is.
>> Did you talk to Joe about the

1010
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:42,400
» speed limit signs
down by front of Adams is down there

1011
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:46,719
first? The speed limit sign could be
moved out to the city limit sign. The

1012
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:50,400
city limit sign.
Yeah,

1013
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:54,239
» Adam Deol.
>> I know Adam.

1014
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:57,280
» So there's a sign down there.
>> Well, they should be down closer to the

1015
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:01,440
because they that city
>> it just says like like when you get

1016
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:06,239
closer into town like by Jen's house,
>> it has like a 30 like

1017
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,120
» like it tells you like to decrease your
speed.

1018
01:29:06,639 --> 01:29:10,800
» The speed limit first.
>> First street.

1019
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:14,880
» Yeah. So, I mean, we talked about it
last meeting, one of the last two

1020
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:17,520
meetings, moving those signs down when
you were

1021
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:24,000
» Yeah, I've been out of it. Oh,
>> like the the 30 mph speed limit

1022
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:28,560
» should start at Jim Pots.
>> And if you just got moved to the south

1023
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,679
on the edge,
like at the speed limit.

1024
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:37,440
» Yep. I'll go check
>> also. Um, did we is there any way we can

1025
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:40,560
put coal patch in that pothole there at
>> George?

1026
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:45,280
because I've had three people come to
me.

1027
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:47,360
» I went and drove past it today
on Friday.

1028
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:51,360
» Oh, any update is when they're going to
ask about

1029
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:57,679
not heard anything. I sent an email and
a call and I have not heard back. I'm

1030
01:29:54,239 --> 01:30:03,000
sure I will. to just the season.
>> Yeah.

1031
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,000
» Yeah.

1032
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:17,239
Next.
We might think something else.

1033
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:28,560
The treasures report. Lisa was able to
print a lot of stuff for you guys. The

1034
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:37,080
first two pages are the money markets,
the sewer, and the water. See how much

1035
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:37,080
is in those as of August 31st.

1036
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:42,199
I don't know there's a monthly increase.

1037
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:51,600
Yeah, that's looking for those two. The
next sheet you'll see looks terrible.

1038
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:56,239
the treasures report.
>> Yep.

1039
01:30:52,159 --> 01:31:02,000
» Um, we printed this off so you could see
how wild the numbers look because all of

1040
01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:07,159
this is wrong.
>> So, this isn't correct numbers.

1041
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:07,159
» It's not correct at all.

1042
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:13,040
» This is one of the ones that we're
trying to figure out.

1043
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:20,159
» Okay. Do we have corrected numbers? Do
Do we know the correct numbers for

1044
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:25,120
» Not yet. So Christina identifies the
ones that need correcting. Lisa goes in

1045
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:29,679
and tries to correct them. If not, then
we get to G Works and she has three open

1046
01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:34,480
tickets.
>> Do we know what our balance is for the

1047
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:38,719
general fund at all?
I assume it's not negative 70,000.

1048
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:44,480
» No,
I assume the ending balance is not.

1049
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:49,600
» Yeah.
So like

1050
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:54,400
» this one says general account and the
balance on August 31st

1051
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,719
» 394,000
>> that's encompassing of all the accounts

1052
01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:01,440
I believe
>> I believe that this is just the bank

1053
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:08,880
account with all of the money.
>> So this is all this together.

1054
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:13,679
» Yes. So that 394,000 includes sewer of
what's in the water and sewer, right?

1055
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:17,480
» Uh rent minus what's in those money
markets,

1056
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:17,480
» right?

1057
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:27,679
» But so Lisa has open tickets. She's
working on correcting those with

1058
01:32:25,679 --> 01:32:34,639
Christina.
Um, but we wanted to print the report so

1059
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:40,480
you guys can see that
we have access to the report. It's just

1060
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:46,920
it's wrong. Obviously, we don't have we
didn't start this year with 70,000 in

1061
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,920
our general function.

1062
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:56,239
We're just working with G Works to try
and correct it. But like yesterday, they

1063
01:32:53,679 --> 01:33:00,880
closed the ticket. We had to reopen it.
Well, I guess I'm confused then because

1064
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:06,560
she had Christina had a treasury report
for the year ending in 2024, right?

1065
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:09,920
» That's correct. That you gave
>> it was that's what you sent to the

1066
01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:15,440
budget people, right?
>> Yes.

1067
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:19,440
» So, if it was a the ending report was
correct in 2024 that she sent that

1068
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:22,440
should be what the beginning balance is
here.

1069
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,600
» You mean

1070
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:33,040
Yeah, I don't understand. So, the
beginning balance here should be yes,

1071
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:36,239
2024,
>> but it's not.

1072
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:39,800
» But it's not because we're not able to
fix it in G.

1073
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:45,920
» So, so this report is what it's out of G
Works.

1074
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:53,600
» Yes.
So, why

1075
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:58,400
I guess why can't we get a report
that shows what it was at the end of

1076
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:03,040
2024?
Because if she had she had to have had a

1077
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:07,600
report at the end of 2024 to submit for
the budget. Yes, Christina came up with

1078
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:15,199
those numbers through the numbers we
gave her. So, that's Christina's

1079
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:18,400
own reports. Nothing to do with G Works.
Except for like all the information was

1080
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,920
sent to Christina,
>> right? I get that. I get that. Yeah.

1081
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,360
» But that's what we sent to have our
budget based on.

1082
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:28,159
» Yes.
>> So, what I'm saying is is that's what

1083
01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:30,960
should be
in the beginning balance on here.

1084
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:35,440
» Yes.
>> So, you you should be there should be a

1085
01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:38,960
way you could go in Excel and make a
sheet. Yeah. You're going to pull this

1086
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:42,320
off of the G Works. I get that part. But
you should be able to go into Excel, set

1087
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:45,040
you up a word spreadsheet,
>> and it shows the correct beginning

1088
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:49,520
balance.
>> Yeah, we could create the correct

1089
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:56,639
beginning balance using Christina's
numbers, but the received, dis

1090
01:34:53,760 --> 01:35:01,600
dispersed, and change in liabilities and
ending balance. Those numbers we won't

1091
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:05,679
get through GW works either because
those numbers are also wrong.

1092
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:11,800
» So nothing on here is correct.
>> Exactly.

1093
01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:11,800
That's what we're trying to fix.

1094
01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:17,760
And it's been like that for over a year
>> since they were since they made us go to

1095
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:23,679
the
>> since October 23.

1096
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:27,120
» Yeah.
>> 24.

1097
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:31,960
» It was before I was here. So
>> October

1098
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,960
» September

1099
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:38,239
» November
>> 24.

1100
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:43,239
I know he's done so much work.

1101
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:48,719
» So,
yeah.

1102
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:53,920
» So, well, let me I'm just going to ask
another question.

1103
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:58,000
» So, Christina is running she's actually
coming up with a treasures report. Is

1104
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:04,080
she coming up with one per month or is
she coming up with one per quarter?

1105
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:12,880
She came up with that one treasures
report for the end of 24 based on the

1106
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:18,159
numbers we gave her just for the budget.
So, a year.

1107
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:24,679
Do you think that like our next meeting
that we can have Lisa here and have

1108
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:33,199
» sorry that was not very nice. boyfriend
Christina, maybe even like a phone

1109
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:38,080
conference.
I don't know. Like I It just like

1110
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:41,520
baffled me that like it is still so
messed up and we are not making any

1111
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:47,440
progress.
>> It baffles. I mean I'm beyond baffled.

1112
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:52,639
I'm just flat out frustrated with
>> and I get it that it's GWorks. I get

1113
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:56,080
that part. But we were also paying
Christina to pull numbers out of G

1114
01:36:54,480 --> 01:37:03,199
Works.
And I was I thought we were paying her

1115
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:08,320
more than like just once a year to do it
because we have got to know we have to

1116
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:11,440
know what's in funds.
>> Yes,

1117
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:15,360
» we have got to know that because we
could be paying Ryan out of a fund and

1118
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:20,320
not have any money.
>> Just just in

1119
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:24,560
» I just just an example. We could be
paying him out of that and so then you

1120
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:27,360
know instead it should be it could be
coming out of general. We don't know

1121
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:30,239
where it's coming from.
>> I don't

1122
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:37,199
» I'm not hollering at you. I'm just
>> I'm trying to understand as well. Does

1123
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:41,440
does Christina do a quarterly report
based on funds? Is that something

1124
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:45,760
» that's I'm asking the question. That's
what I'm asking.

1125
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:49,920
» Oh, I have no idea. I don't think that's
it. I don't know if that's something the

1126
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,080
city has asked for to do.
>> We should be having a church report once

1127
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,040
a month.
>> Yeah.

1128
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,239
» So, like
>> for a month,

1129
01:37:54,159 --> 01:38:02,719
» we know that that's not going to happen.
>> What questions

1130
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:11,360
do we like?
Like when was when was the last month

1131
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:14,880
like reconcile or like reconciliation?
reconciliation of the loans like in G

1132
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:18,400
Works or
>> is it not in like

1133
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:26,480
» we know G Works isn't right. So like
what are we doing? What are we using to

1134
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:31,040
make sure everything matches up
>> that I don't know nothing that I can see

1135
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:33,920
» like like to make sure that this check
was actually this check and not this

1136
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:36,000
check.
>> Yeah.

1137
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:39,360
» Well that it was applied to the right
funds.

1138
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,239
I mean with the general ledgers we tell
you that

1139
01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:45,679
» but from what I'm hearing this what I'm
hearing is the general ledgers are so

1140
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:48,880
screwed up in G works that it's not
functional

1141
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:52,239
» right so
>> it was my thought that Christina was

1142
01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:56,320
going in there and pulling this
information and making it where we at

1143
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,520
least knew how much was coming out of
this fund how much was coming out that

1144
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:06,560
fund d
>> even maybe an email to Christina like

1145
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:11,119
» we are not understanding
where

1146
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:17,199
where this process is at and how it's
being fixed or

1147
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:21,040
how
>> I don't I don't understand it.

1148
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:27,760
» I think the only way it'll get fixed is
if we change our system.

1149
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:31,679
» Well, will it get fixed? But I mean,
just

1150
01:39:29,679 --> 01:39:37,600
hopefully.
But the thing is is what Jenna is trying

1151
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:40,080
to say is like we're not seeing any any
of that ever.

1152
01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:44,239
» Nope.
>> Just like what Kathy was saying like

1153
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:46,800
we're not there's you we should be
getting something every month.

1154
01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:50,960
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Even I mean this I

1155
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:56,159
» Well, even here, let me I'm going to
back up a little before they made the

1156
01:39:53,199 --> 01:40:01,440
change. I'm backing up. Let's say, okay,
Deb left in March.

1157
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:06,000
I'm backing up till I'll give it April,
starting in May. You know what we got

1158
01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:11,840
for the treasures report?
A print out off of G Works that said

1159
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:17,360
treasures report ending balance. That's
all it said. Give you one number. It

1160
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:20,400
didn't break anything out by fund. It
didn't break anything out by beginning

1161
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:26,320
balance. It didn't break anything out by
expenses receipts

1162
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:30,239
» and ending balance which I know how that
was done before it was done on Excel

1163
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:34,639
spreadsheet. Now Excel spreadsheet you
know existed and it was it was trained

1164
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:40,880
on Lisa was trained on how to do that.
This is before GWorks ever went online

1165
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:45,119
or got updated. So we didn't have one.
Our last effective treasures report was

1166
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:50,320
March
>> of this year.

1167
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:54,400
» No 23 23. No, 24.
>> 24 of March. That's whenever the last

1168
01:40:52,080 --> 01:41:00,800
one came whenever Deb left.
>> And we have not had one since then.

1169
01:40:58,639 --> 01:41:06,960
» We had Wait, I back up. We had one in
September

1170
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:10,719
of 24, but it wasn't right.
>> So, we haven't had one. I mean, and my

1171
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:17,840
thing is, so this has been happening
even before the changeover took place.

1172
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:22,880
» Okay. So, and what you're saying is what
they're saying is like everybody's

1173
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:26,880
saying I think is like every month even
if G works is wrong, there should be

1174
01:41:24,719 --> 01:41:31,280
something showing
what what is going on with the money

1175
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:34,800
within the state and there that's not
being that's not nobody's supplying that

1176
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,719
to us.
>> No,

1177
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:41,920
» that's the problem. I think that's what
we're wanting things to say. I don't

1178
01:41:39,199 --> 01:41:45,840
» this this this and this that's happened
within the last within the last

1179
01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:50,320
» I don't know too many companies in this
world whether corporate public private I

1180
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:56,480
don't know who I don't care that could
operate on the fact that they don't know

1181
01:41:53,679 --> 01:41:59,760
what they've got in their funds and they
don't know and there for a while we

1182
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:04,080
didn't even know what we had in the bank
>> and that's my concern

1183
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:09,360
» you don't I mean we know we don't know
where the money I mean we have somebody

1184
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:15,040
money say Like you don't know. You
literally have no idea.

1185
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:18,320
» We have no as a city. We have no idea.
Like

1186
01:42:16,639 --> 01:42:22,880
» I mean if we had to go through if we had
to go through a government audit Yeah.

1187
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:26,239
» We would fail. We would fail horribly.
>> We wouldn't have we are

1188
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,040
» No, no, no. I'm talking a government
audit. If the state came in and audit

1189
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:31,840
us, we would fail miserably.
>> Oh, I got you.

1190
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:39,280
» And maybe like do we need to have like
specific questions for Lisa? I Yeah,

1191
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:42,719
because right now what it is is you guys
kind of tell me what you want. So like

1192
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:44,719
in the meeting minutes I wrote down that
you wanted the big fresh.

1193
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:48,800
» You're doing fine.
>> And then I communicate that with Lisa

1194
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:52,639
and then I try to communicate with her
other things you guys might be looking

1195
01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:57,199
for. But
>> there's a loss in translation. There's,

1196
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:02,320
» you know,
>> well, it'd be helpful if she was here.

1197
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:08,239
I've never met her.
That also comes down to how many hours

1198
01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:13,119
she gets a week. So if she's doing the
16 like she was asked then but she

1199
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:18,239
hasn't been doing 16.
>> She's been doing 20 24.

1200
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:21,960
So for
>> my shut up

1201
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:28,760
» and I guess

1202
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:37,360
the asking for the treasur is not either
that's something that's been asked for

1203
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:39,920
for a year.
>> Yeah.

1204
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:44,480
» Over 18 months.
>> And if we're plugging everything into G

1205
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:51,199
Works and G Works is still not right.
What are we doing to know what we're see

1206
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:56,000
if this is I just know my system didn't
work correctly. we any kind of job you

1207
01:43:54,480 --> 01:44:02,639
would have a backup to be able to
reconcile later on fix the issue like

1208
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:08,000
you would have a backup for the system
that would that had the error like you

1209
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:11,600
would have a
if we knew GWorks wasn't doing it

1210
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:16,719
correct we would be do I would be using
like an Excel spreadsheet or whatever

1211
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:21,760
to balance everything
I just know like

1212
01:44:19,119 --> 01:44:24,800
that's how companies work on it if They
knew there was a system issue.

1213
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:30,040
» You're right.
>> So maybe we need like some specific

1214
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,040
questions

1215
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,119
like we can just

1216
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:39,800
submit them

1217
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,760
» and then you can compile.

1218
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:50,960
I I don't even know like
>> Well, do we want to ask her to have a

1219
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:56,480
spreadsheet
for a monthly treasures report for next

1220
01:44:54,239 --> 01:44:58,960
time like on an Excel or something like
that?

1221
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,040
» I feel like that's just going to take up
how much more time?

1222
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,800
» That's what I was wondering. That's too
much time.

1223
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:06,000
» How much more time is that going to take
for trying to create it?

1224
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:09,440
» And just playing devil's advocate. She
could put whatever number she wants to

1225
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:12,800
in this Excel spreadsheet.
>> I mean, that's true. You're right.

1226
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:16,639
» I mean, you're right. You have to have
the data to back it up. And right now we

1227
01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:19,119
don't have a system that gives us the
data.

1228
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:23,119
» Okay, here's what I can tell you is as
soon as the 24 books are done, which I

1229
01:45:21,679 --> 01:45:29,920
am under the impression they're going to
be done shortly, it'll go in for audit.

1230
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:34,320
The 23 books are with Barney now. Sweet
in audit. So,

1231
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:39,199
» and
>> well, but my thing is, okay, I'm going

1232
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:42,719
back to if Christina can come up with
numbers for the end of the year for

1233
01:45:40,719 --> 01:45:50,080
2024,
why can't we have numbers monthly or at

1234
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:52,000
least quarterly? I maybe monthly is too
much to ask for, but I'm saying at least

1235
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:56,400
quarterly.
>> And maybe we were specific enough to

1236
01:45:54,800 --> 01:46:00,080
» But I mean, here here's the flip side of
that. Here's the flip side. We're gonna

1237
01:45:58,159 --> 01:46:03,199
be paying Christina how many months?
We've never seen a bill from Christina

1238
01:46:01,679 --> 01:46:05,679
for the work that she's done so far
already.

1239
01:46:04,480 --> 01:46:09,280
» I don't know. I haven't seen one. Has
anybody else in here seen one?

1240
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:13,199
» I think she sent one bill, but I can't
remember when.

1241
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:17,840
» But I mean, that's my question is how
much money are we spending out in It's a

1242
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:20,560
rabbit hole.
>> I agree.

1243
01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:22,400
» We're double paying.
>> But why? But what are we getting out of

1244
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,080
it?
>> Nothing.

1245
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:27,920
» But why? That's what I'm saying.
>> Lisa is doing more than just what

1246
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:31,600
Christina is doing. She's doing She's
paying the bills.

1247
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:34,880
» I get that part. I get that part. I
don't have a problem with that part.

1248
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:38,560
» But I'm have my problem that I'm having
is

1249
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:45,199
» if we don't have
>> Yeah. But once

1250
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:47,199
but once that you told once that person
was

1251
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:53,440
» Let's go. I make a motion we go into
executive session for 10 minutes

1252
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:57,639
» to discuss non-elected personnel.
>> How many?

1253
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,639
» 10 minutes.

1254
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:02,800
present.
>> Pardon me.

1255
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:09,760
» Who do you want present?
>> Council members

1256
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:16,520
» and mayor and mayor
>> and lawyer. Excuse me. Council members

1257
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:16,520
present. Mayor and lawyer

1258
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:25,000
» in regular session. No motions were made
during the executive session.

1259
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,040
Contin

1260
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:36,719
is the last sheet that you provided is
the checking accounts

1261
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:43,880
with all of the
and

1262
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:43,880
so you can see how much has gone in.

1263
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:09,239
All I have for the treasury report.
>> Thank you, Adam.

1264
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:24,199
City clerk's report. Um, the very last
page on everyone's name I have attached.

1265
01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:24,199
It is the green one.

1266
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:40,159
So, uh, they contacted the city. It's
like code red except for it's more in

1267
01:48:36,719 --> 01:48:47,840
depth. Um,
it looks like a great program. It would

1268
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:52,080
only cost the city $125 a month, but I
don't think that we're there yet. I

1269
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:57,840
don't think that we've got enough people
willing to sign up to do it. I think

1270
01:48:55,360 --> 01:49:03,679
Code Red works. I think we have it. It
doesn't cost us anything. It works.

1271
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:06,880
» Same with Coen. I'm not on it.
>> You might um at some point

1272
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:11,040
» to the county.
>> You might on some point put an you know,

1273
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:16,480
a thing out. We might have to put a
thing out like a letter out or something

1274
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:20,480
if you want to be sign up for alerts
sign up for on the county.

1275
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,040
» I feel like didn't that go out on that
went out on a water bill.

1276
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,960
» It did.
>> Oh, okay then.

1277
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:28,080
» Yeah.
>> Well, that one lady said that she didn't

1278
01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:30,400
know anything about it. So, I didn't
know. I don't know.

1279
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:33,040
» After that that it went out like how to
sign up.

1280
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:38,639
» They only
>> I think way before

1281
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:41,119
we did the consumer confident report.
They go with that one.

1282
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:45,040
» Yeah.
>> Okay, that makes sense.

1283
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:51,920
» Yeah. Yeah. We x that one.
>> So, it looks like a great idea. They

1284
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:57,600
have a map one where they can uh isolate
areas of the city and send text to just

1285
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:05,360
those locations. Like if we have a boil
order for it's not the entire city, but

1286
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:10,560
I think with the few people we have on
code of bread, if we can't get people to

1287
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:19,199
sign up for that, there's no way we're
get them to sign up for something.

1288
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:23,920
But I wanted to bring it up. So you guys
then

1289
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:28,000
I have uh Pat, thank you. Was able to
get the ordinance. This is the last one

1290
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:34,480
for the animals. It's the second to last
year.

1291
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:44,880
This one was um
increasing the dog tag amount from $5

1292
01:50:39,679 --> 01:50:48,199
spayed and neutered to $10 and then $20
for dogs.

1293
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,840
classification because

1294
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:06,880
» this only goes.
Yeah, actually the last one I had like

1295
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:12,880
males and then females spayed with
females unspayed because I was like

1296
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:17,600
kind of disatory.
>> I make a motion that we adopt ordinance

1297
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:26,800
number 2025-8
an ordinance amending section 2-105

1298
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:31,360
2 of the code of ordinances of the city
of Effingham, Kansas relating to dog

1299
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:35,280
license taxes.
I'll second it.

1300
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:38,520
» All in favor?
Any opposed?

1301
01:51:38,719 --> 01:51:46,400
» Um, I'm working on the other pieces to
get them on to the websites. They should

1302
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:51,199
be there hopefully by the end of the
week if not next week. I'm working on

1303
01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:57,360
those
the publications and everything as well.

1304
01:51:54,320 --> 01:52:03,280
I had a slow day Friday, so I started to
go through and update the ordinance

1305
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:07,760
books. I got through chapter five.
Chapter 5 is where it has that weird

1306
01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:11,599
font. Turned out that
>> same font.

1307
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:17,440
» Turned out that it wasn't the font that
it's the issue. They messed with the

1308
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:20,880
settings of the paper itself. So,
spacings,

1309
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:26,639
everything like that. I'm going through
and

1310
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:35,679
creating new almost resetting to default
and yeah uh a lot of them are weird. So

1311
01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:42,480
in nuisances they don't have like 2-503
for each for different things. It's just

1312
01:52:38,719 --> 01:52:48,880
one 2-503 and then 16 definition and
stuff like that. So, it won't be perfect

1313
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:53,040
match, but it won't stab you in the eye
when you look at it.

1314
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:56,760
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1315
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,760
» Yeah.

1316
01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:05,840
» Other than that, I have the Towns and
Hub grant that I'm working on finishing.

1317
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:10,320
It's due by the end of the month. I'll
work with Jason on the grants.

1318
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:14,880
» What's the town?
>> Sorry.

1319
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:20,639
Yeah. Um,
>> how much is that for?

1320
01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:25,880
» 500. It's the last
590 or 550 something.

1321
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:31,639
So,
other than that,

1322
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:44,960
» janitor.
>> Oh, yes. Um,

1323
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:50,880
she cleans the blue buildings on
Tuesdays. She comes in every Friday thus

1324
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:57,760
far to check up to see if there's
anything that she's missed, if uh, like,

1325
01:53:54,400 --> 01:54:03,760
you know, what extra we have her do,
stuff like that. So,

1326
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:08,560
» yeah, she
>> open. Okay. Yep. So, she comes in and

1327
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:14,360
she checks in, which is really nice.
Have you been with them?

1328
01:54:10,719 --> 01:54:14,360
» I was there today looking

1329
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:23,280
» I was like is that
>> it doesn't have air conditioning.

1330
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:27,520
» I have a quick question. This was asked
of me today on the front desk when you

1331
01:54:25,599 --> 01:54:31,679
go into it. It still lists like Janet
Eert and all that kind of stuff. Is that

1332
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:37,840
because we can't get that changed?
>> Yeah. I just want to make sure.

1333
01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:42,000
» So the front desk is G Works. Uh when
they when I log a ticket and they go all

1334
01:54:39,599 --> 01:54:45,679
they still ask for GNA even though
everything is under my name.

1335
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:49,360
» Okay. I just I was I told them I didn't
think it was going to change because

1336
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:52,800
we're getting rid of that. So
>> Okay.

1337
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:58,040
» I stopped fighting after month four.
>> Yeah. I don't blame you.

1338
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,040
» Yeah.

1339
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:12,480
any committee.
>> So I have a I remember I was gonna ask

1340
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:18,719
you is there anything with the pool? Has
it all been winterized as well?

1341
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:22,080
» Yep. I'm just I actively pump it out.
>> I know at one time we were going to

1342
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:26,159
repaint um and we were thinking about
doing that at the end of the year as

1343
01:55:24,639 --> 01:55:30,000
opposed to beginning of the year.
>> No, I'll probably do that.

1344
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:34,320
» Okay. because I got to go through a
bunch of cracks in it too.

1345
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:40,320
» Okay.
>> There are spots that they went through

1346
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:48,239
and they placed the sealant on it, but
they still seal and buckle concrete.

1347
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:54,480
So that'll be in the spring. That'll be
probably

1348
01:55:50,800 --> 01:56:00,239
rags reseal with the paint, the pool
paint basically. for right now. I don't

1349
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:05,360
want to do that before about it.
>> I think ours is like

1350
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:09,920
» be get I mean
when we start dipping down in the below

1351
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:14,239
freezing if I've got water in it I've
got to pump it every day. Right now it's

1352
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:19,360
like go and check it as long as it just
blow up pumping we're fine and then I'll

1353
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:24,239
pump it out. Then I got to get all the
leaves out and then

1354
01:56:22,159 --> 01:56:27,920
it's basically a matter of just pumping
it every time. I got liquid.

1355
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,639
» I think we were talking about painting
the deck part, weren't we?

1356
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:34,639
» Yeah,
>> that's what I was making.

1357
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:38,920
» The thermal paint
>> or the thermo like where it's not hot.

1358
01:56:40,159 --> 01:56:43,119
» That was before you. Yes.
>> Yes.

1359
01:56:41,679 --> 01:56:46,800
» Okay.
>> They have paint that's like that you can

1360
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:50,400
walk on that's not as doesn't make it as
hot, right?

1361
01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:55,840
» Something like that.
>> Yeah. I forget what it was called it,

1362
01:56:52,080 --> 01:57:01,199
but it was um it was four pools. It like
you can use it for patios, decks. It's

1363
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:03,360
just to keep it from getting so blasted
hot

1364
01:57:01,679 --> 01:57:08,960
» and maybe just like a path. It wasn't
necessarily path circles or you know

1365
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:11,960
splash of water
abilities.

1366
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:15,960
» I can do circles really.

1367
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:23,840
» No, like a water splash. You know, like
the water splash

1368
01:57:22,719 --> 01:57:27,679
could be best.
>> Come on.

1369
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:30,400
» Paintbr.
>> There you go.

1370
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:34,480
» But I'll look it. I thought you meant
the pool.

1371
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:36,639
» All right. I realized that after you
were started and I didn't have a hard

1372
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,400
time.
>> Thank you.

1373
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:41,719
» You're very passionate about it.
>> Okay. So,

1374
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:48,719
» we still got to fill it.
>> Our bond says we have to fill it.

1375
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,719
» Okay. So, there's a drain in the bottom
of the pool, right?

1376
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:55,840
» In fact, it's not.
>> There's a knot. Okay.

1377
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:58,320
» Okay. So,
>> there used to be.

1378
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:03,679
» Yeah. It's all on how you look at it.
Yes. There are two pipes at the bottom

1379
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:09,760
of the pool. Those two pipes are filled
with grout concrete

1380
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:13,440
because there is a leak somewhere in
between

1381
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:19,360
the drain. You know, you know where the
pump house is, right? You know that big

1382
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:22,800
round ated pipe that comes out. So in
there there's a valve that you

1383
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:27,440
essentially you're supposed to be able
to open it and it drains the pool out

1384
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:29,440
» the correct way
>> into into our sewer.

1385
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:34,320
» Sure.
>> Gets out or in however it gets out.

1386
01:58:32,719 --> 01:58:40,400
» Sure.
>> Problem is that there was a leak between

1387
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:45,760
that 6 in pipe and where it goes down to
2 in pipe drains

1388
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:51,520
instead of finding that leak. And I mean
we're talking

1389
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:55,840
This is a 2008 reconstruction. When they
filled this, instead of finding those

1390
01:58:53,679 --> 01:59:02,960
leaks, they filled those. So now the
only way to fill and drain the pool is

1391
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:06,880
through the 3-in pump to drain it and
then

1392
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:10,400
uh I mean we open up the valve, fill it,
not whatever, but

1393
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:12,639
» but you can't like open a valve and let
the water So that's why you have to put

1394
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:18,639
the sub valve in.
>> Yeah. Okay. And it's just a matter of

1395
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:24,239
going in there and draining it. So the
water gets to start certain hide. Um

1396
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:28,159
in the fall it's going to become more of
a nuisance because we got to keep it dry

1397
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:31,760
enough that the leaves stay dry so we
can le blow it out and they don't start

1398
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:34,639
building nasty.
>> And see that's how it's been for years

1399
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,159
since all winter.
>> Yeah.

1400
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,560
» And then it's brown.
>> Yeah. And I'm trying not to fight it.

1401
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:42,320
» Yes.
>> Spring winter started. That's so much

1402
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:46,080
better.
>> It's it's just upkeeping it,

1403
01:59:44,719 --> 01:59:49,679
» you know, and with two of us
fulltimeish, it's going to be no

1404
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:55,760
problem. Keep it just
>> pay attention to have to do it. You

1405
01:59:51,679 --> 02:00:00,000
know, it's a weekly thing in
>> Okay. Sorry.

1406
01:59:58,719 --> 02:00:06,599
» That was my committee
>> here to answer questions.

1407
02:00:03,599 --> 02:00:06,599
fix.

1408
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:18,719
» He had mentioned it last time
thing and I was like, "Oh, I completely

1409
02:00:15,119 --> 02:00:22,480
forgot." Tell me something.
>> The only thing that I would have for

1410
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:27,679
like committee reports. So like our our
sign, our new sign,

1411
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:34,000
how do we want to proceed?
Do we want to

1412
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:38,800
» Yeah. Yeah, I say we just wait on it.
Wait for funding the roof. It's going to

1413
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:43,520
cost us to completely else.
>> I also wondered like if Lions Club would

1414
02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:48,719
be interested in like helping with the
project like that. Um I know Lions Club

1415
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:54,000
has talked about doing like the veteran
banners on Main Street. Like maybe they

1416
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:58,400
would be interested in doing some
banners. I think that it would if they

1417
02:00:56,080 --> 02:01:04,800
did that and maybe the littleer signs
for the edges of town like because

1418
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:11,360
» yeah sign on that would be included.
>> So I would see maybe that I don't think

1419
02:01:07,679 --> 02:01:15,360
we need another big sign right now.
>> I want to throw something else on that

1420
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:19,360
too. I think in the future when we go to
do any kind of a project like that we

1421
02:01:17,599 --> 02:01:22,320
have to know total cost
>> right

1422
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:27,840
» I mean and that total cost has to be at
least estimated before we start any

1423
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:31,599
process design anything on it so that we
have a clear concise picture of what

1424
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:34,560
it's going to cost us
>> and that's on me or not like thinking

1425
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,679
about
>> I'm just saying we need to put something

1426
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:44,480
in place where if you want to we want to
do a project you have got to have the

1427
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:48,239
total cost design um installation, you
know, building materials in all that

1428
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:52,639
kind of stuff. You need to have all that
up front

1429
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:58,239
» so that we don't get blindsided. So,
>> if we did find location, the entrances

1430
02:01:55,440 --> 02:02:03,520
would be at all the same from every
direction. All three.

1431
02:01:59,679 --> 02:02:08,159
» Well, the east
>> that's where it is now, right?

1432
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:15,360
is the other one you can see when you're
coming from the south when you're going

1433
02:02:12,719 --> 02:02:19,679
» mine will be we'll have another like
start up for the year here in a couple

1434
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:22,719
weeks. So, I just thought like if it'll
be okay like I can bring it up to them

1435
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:25,960
and see if they'd be interested at all.
Might as well

1436
02:02:29,679 --> 02:02:36,880
» and then I think we can also I don't
know

1437
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:41,040
things out again maybe too even though
they did it they might not be the team's

1438
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:46,199
person to do banners. I don't know.
>> Yes. Yes. There's some

1439
02:02:54,239 --> 02:02:57,639
an address any

1440
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:15,480
any finger

1441
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:22,199
openness

1442
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:36,119
two meetings a month. Did you guys want
to have another meeting this month?

1443
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:36,119
And what day was that meeting?

1444
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:51,360
No one had it that uh this year. Last
year we had a couple of people who were

1445
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:55,119
at every meeting.
No one's made it this year. So I'm

1446
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:58,760
disappointed.
>> I have so far.

1447
02:04:02,159 --> 02:04:07,520
» I've missed one. We're hitting the end
of our term

1448
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:11,280
right about the time. Are we looking at
like the 24th? Wednesday the 24th.

1449
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:16,719
» I can't do 24th.
>> I can't do the 24th. And so Mondays and

1450
02:04:15,119 --> 02:04:20,400
Thursdays are going to be out. Thursdays
will be out for him too.

1451
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:25,679
» I said Wednesday is about the best day.
>> I can't do that. But if you can

1452
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:29,760
» I can't do the I can't be here. We can't
do 24. What

1453
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:33,920
» What about um
what about next Wednesday? Maybe we have

1454
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:39,040
got some feedback from Christina. We can
move forward with that.

1455
02:04:36,719 --> 02:04:42,080
17th
>> that's been

1456
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:45,440
» 17th I could do
>> I've got to figure that out. It's

1457
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:50,719
nothing for I'm working in Kansas City
all day for a conference

1458
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:54,639
» on that day on the 17th. I've got to
figure out

1459
02:04:52,400 --> 02:05:00,320
I got to talk to getting my kids to
address after practice because we have

1460
02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:07,639
Wednesday schools on Wednesday nights
for confirmation classes.

1461
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:07,639
That's where my kids stop

1462
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:19,000
for game. I don't think it should work.
>> Uh, just a second. Boys start soccer

1463
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:19,000
next week. Got to see if they play.

1464
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:35,360
While we're waiting on that, I wanted to
bring everybody up to date on OKAM

1465
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:41,360
Regional Council.
>> Um, I attended the last meeting

1466
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:47,280
as well as the bylaws committee that I
got sub to. Um, we made changes on the

1467
02:05:45,199 --> 02:05:50,280
bylaws that they're going to change
their

1468
02:05:50,719 --> 02:05:59,679
budget dates and so forth. But on the
meeting that we actually had, um, to be

1469
02:05:57,040 --> 02:06:05,520
real honest with you, nothing in Kansas
is really important on that committee.

1470
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:11,440
It's mainly all Missouri.
>> You're going to fight for Kansas.

1471
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:16,320
» Um, yeah, as much as I can. Um, but I
just kind of get the feeling that I mean

1472
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:19,599
Aes was on there and Aes was telling you
about some of the stuff, but as far as

1473
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:24,159
like grants and stuff, I mean a lot of
the grants were in Missouri

1474
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:30,880
and you know I think we need to maybe
look at one. They have a mural um grant

1475
02:06:28,639 --> 02:06:35,440
that we might be able to get do the
mural.

1476
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:40,800
Um, but
I I don't I just get the feeling they

1477
02:06:38,079 --> 02:06:43,760
were kind of secondary.
>> Aren't they supposed to be coming at

1478
02:06:42,239 --> 02:06:48,560
some point or have they
>> doing the survey? They should have done

1479
02:06:45,119 --> 02:06:51,920
the survey the 18th and 19th.
>> Yeah, we had I had the meeting the end

1480
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:56,880
of August.
>> Wouldn't when didn't use the time frame

1481
02:06:53,920 --> 02:07:01,599
for like feedback on that one. Was that
after they did their survey?

1482
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:06,320
No, they didn't really say they didn't
say anything about survivor.

1483
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:10,480
» So, but I mean from what I get from the
Missouri part of it is that they do

1484
02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:14,639
grants for different things like parks
and they do grants for trails and there

1485
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:20,400
was a lady on there from the state of
Missouri um was talking about the grants

1486
02:07:17,199 --> 02:07:25,040
that they do for parks and trails and
all that kind of stuff and Kansas does

1487
02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:30,719
not have that kind of grant program as
of yet. they're looking into it, but

1488
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:35,280
that's what was really transpiring. So,
um I'm not real impressed with them yet.

1489
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:39,760
I'm going to wait. I mean, I won't be at
their next meeting. I'll be out of town,

1490
02:07:36,639 --> 02:07:44,520
but I'm waiting to see what happens. And
I'll wait to see what happens at the

1491
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:44,520
October meeting.

1492
02:07:44,719 --> 02:07:50,239
I'm not real.
>> Did you go to the town of country meet?

1493
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:54,079
» Town of country meeting.
>> The project. I did not go to the project

1494
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:56,639
concern meeting because I did not find
out about it until the night before the

1495
02:07:55,360 --> 02:08:02,239
meeting and I already had plans that
day. Um but I will tell you what I did

1496
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:07,440
get. I got a phone call from Casey Quinn
um Monday.

1497
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:13,599
She called me and she wanted to talk
about the budget for the project concern

1498
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:17,679
and she said basically that they had a
survey county sent out a survey or you

1499
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:21,760
could do it online. I don't know. I
didn't see the survey, didn't

1500
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:25,840
participate in it, but she said 72% of
the people that did the survey said that

1501
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:29,920
the Ason County tax dollars should not
be spent on anything other than

1502
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:35,199
statutory agencies,
which is government agencies.

1503
02:08:32,719 --> 02:08:41,679
And she called me to let me know that
she was probably going to go with the

1504
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:47,520
survey results and therefore she was not
going to be in favor of approving any

1505
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:51,360
money to go to Project Concern at all.
She said she did not know about Eric C

1506
02:08:49,599 --> 02:08:54,079
Eric Null or James Campbell what they
were going to do, but she said, you

1507
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:57,280
know, we're looking I'm looking at it
from a survey side of this.

1508
02:08:55,599 --> 02:08:59,920
» How many people participated in the
survey?

1509
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:03,840
» I do not know the answer. The only
survey that I saw was concerning tax

1510
02:09:02,239 --> 02:09:06,480
dollars and
>> was tax dollars,

1511
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:09,520
» the increase of the taxes, but I don't
remember them saying

1512
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:12,880
» there was supposedly Steve Kaplinger was
at our meeting today or over there today

1513
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:17,280
and he said that he was he saw this
survey and he actually answered it and

1514
02:09:14,719 --> 02:09:21,199
he said the question on the agency thing
was very

1515
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:24,000
mis misstated.
>> That's what I'm saying. I didn't even

1516
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:27,280
know there was one on there. There was
one on there that said, "Do you think

1517
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:33,840
that the something about do you think
that the tax dollars should only be

1518
02:09:29,199 --> 02:09:38,159
approved for state for um statuto
agencies, you know, state a you know,

1519
02:09:35,679 --> 02:09:41,840
government agencies? And if not, if you
don't if your answer is no, then you

1520
02:09:39,679 --> 02:09:45,599
need to explain which agencies, you
know, you're talking about." And so he

1521
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:48,639
said, "What happens is on those kind of
surveys, people just say yes." They

1522
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:53,360
don't want to check no and have to
explain.

1523
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:55,679
» So that's up like that on purpose.
Well, don't you think

1524
02:09:54,239 --> 02:09:57,760
» I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying
that's

1525
02:09:56,079 --> 02:10:02,000
» I would think that that is a state
program. It's all

1526
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:04,880
» I would think that's a state program.
>> It's not a state program,

1527
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:09,520
» but that's what you know like
>> Yeah, it's not a state program. Project

1528
02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:13,360
Concern is a private corporation
>> and they are not regulated by Comora or

1529
02:10:12,239 --> 02:10:16,639
any of that because I've already talked
to the attorney general. I turned them

1530
02:10:14,719 --> 02:10:20,000
in and found that out.
>> The attorney general came back to me and

1531
02:10:18,159 --> 02:10:24,800
said they're not they're not subject to
coma. They're not accepted to subject to

1532
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:29,280
Kora and they don't have to tell us
anything. So when Casey Quinn was

1533
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:32,880
talking to me, I said, "So I find it
ironic that you're giving money to a

1534
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:36,480
company and you're not even asking
anything about what the money where it's

1535
02:10:35,199 --> 02:10:39,760
being spent, what's being done,
nothing." And she said, "Well, you know,

1536
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:43,280
we're in a really tight budget
constraint right now." So she said, you

1537
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:47,520
know, I don't know what, like I said, I
don't know what Eric Nolles and Jim

1538
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:51,599
Campbell is going to do on it, but also
she they were very she was very upset

1539
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:54,880
that Project Concern came to the meeting
to present their budget and they

1540
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:59,920
basically handed the county
commissioners an ultimatum that they

1541
02:10:57,199 --> 02:11:05,199
either got $125,000 in funding or they
were going to close Effingham down.

1542
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:09,760
That's how exactly how it was put. if we
do not get $125,000 in our budget from

1543
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:16,000
the county, we're closing Effingham
down.

1544
02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:18,880
So, um you know, I I let my I just told
her I said, "You guys are basically

1545
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:21,920
telling anybody west of Ederson, you
don't care about it,

1546
02:11:20,639 --> 02:11:24,960
» you know, the seniors and stuff." I
said, "Those seniors pay a lot of tax

1547
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:27,599
your tax dollars, but you're not going
to give them any considerations."

1548
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:31,920
» Well, I think we just need to remember
that with voting governor.

1549
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:35,119
» Yeah. And so she said, 'Well, she goes,
"I'm just telling you what how I'm, you

1550
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:40,560
know, how I'm in view envisioning voting
voting." And then she told me too, she

1551
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:43,520
said, 'Well, she says, 'You know, um,
she said, we don't have money for

1552
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:49,599
everybody. I said, I get that. I really
truly get that. But I said, this is a

1553
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:53,360
very vital part of our county and these
people need socialization. They need

1554
02:11:51,199 --> 02:11:57,119
somewhere to be. She said, "Well, you
guys need to figure it out how to do it

1555
02:11:54,800 --> 02:12:00,480
there in Effingham." And I was like,
"What?" And she goes, "Well, you could

1556
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:04,719
get Martha to cook." I said, "Marth's in
bad health anyhow. This is not Martha's

1557
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:09,520
problem. This is your problem. You know,
this is your guys's problem. It's not up

1558
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:12,480
to Martha to save this." And I said,
"I've gone to the council, city council,

1559
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:15,520
and asked if we could have bingo in the
city council room once a week, once a

1560
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:19,280
week." And I said, you know, that was
pretty much okay. I said, "But that's

1561
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:24,320
only one day a week." I said, "These
people need this. It's a function that

1562
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:29,599
serves a very good purpose."
>> Yeah. But, you know, I mean, just from

1563
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:33,040
what I'm hearing, Eric Null and James
Campbell don't override her, it's going

1564
02:12:31,119 --> 02:12:37,119
to be shut down. And it could also be
shut down because if they said we don't

1565
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:39,679
get the full 225,000, we're shutting it
down.

1566
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:43,199
» But they don't necessarily care about
that, do you?

1567
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:46,639
» Oh, there's Well, and they she made a
comment. There's two people on project

1568
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:50,000
concerns board that is making all these
decision. That's Cat Kruzner and Jeff

1569
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:53,840
Sheetling.
And she said she's had several members

1570
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:57,280
from both of those board from that board
come to her and tell her it's only two

1571
02:12:55,840 --> 02:13:02,800
people on that board that want that shut
down. That's Jeff Bruce and I mean Jeff

1572
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:05,800
Sheily and Cat Bruce.
So

1573
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:10,400
the people the seniors we told them
about it because she called me she

1574
02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:17,920
called Nancy Keats. She called Nancy and
Harvey FY told them all the same.

1575
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:22,560
And I made the comment, Nancy said, she
made the comment, well, if if they make

1576
02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:26,320
if they make appropriations for Project
Concern, but they don't make it to

1577
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:31,800
$125,000 and they shut this down, then
the county should go in and pull all the

1578
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:31,800
money that they appropriated to

1579
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:39,159
» city of

1580
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:44,639
city.
>> Yeah.

1581
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:47,679
» Yeah. So,
>> there's a lot going on with that and I

1582
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:52,159
don't know where I don't know how it's
going to fall out. I don't I don't

1583
02:13:50,639 --> 02:13:57,440
personally I don't see it coming falling
out very positively, but I'm hoping that

1584
02:13:55,199 --> 02:14:01,560
Eric Nol and James Campbell kind of save
it. I mean, I don't know.

1585
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:07,239
» That's where the status is on.

1586
02:14:12,639 --> 02:14:19,760
So back to the month
>> the 17th. Yes or no?

1587
02:14:17,599 --> 02:14:25,800
» Yes.
>> He says I guess

1588
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:25,800
» I can do 17

1589
02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:35,040
» 100% no I don't have anything
immediately that I can

1590
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:39,040
» tentively set up for the 17th.
>> Make a motion we have a second meeting

1591
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:42,040
September 17th to assess city resolution
issues.

1592
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:46,520
530.

1593
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:55,480
» 5:30.
>> All in favor?

1594
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:55,480
» I

1595
02:15:00,639 --> 02:15:10,320
um the audit status 202 books that was
um the letter

1596
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:14,480
of engagement. I signed that is Mr. Vney
uh Christina uploaded whatever

1597
02:15:12,719 --> 02:15:18,239
documentation they requested into
whatever program they had. Um so that's

1598
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:22,639
there.
They will also the 24 audits as soon as

1599
02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:26,000
those are completed.
>> So it's the status of that.

1600
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:31,400
» Thank you for reaching out to them.
>> Yes. Thank you very much.

1601
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:31,400
» Back up.

1602
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:45,760
the land deed for debolts that uh sent
these out today. It's the next two resol

1603
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:50,360
resolution number 12505 and the joints
tenency quits a claim.

1604
02:15:51,119 --> 02:15:57,679
» And I I understood that you wanted to
transfer that's without consideration at

1605
02:15:55,520 --> 02:16:02,639
least that aren't paying anything for
the land. just getting rid of it so we

1606
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:07,760
don't have any more responsibility for
the last. So

1607
02:16:06,159 --> 02:16:10,800
» that's I think it was my understanding
that's what should have happened.

1608
02:16:09,199 --> 02:16:15,599
» Yeah.
>> And before us

1609
02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:20,719
» I I wasn't around when that was
discussed. I don't know what the

1610
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:25,360
discussion was. I don't know whether
I suppose you could have offered it for

1611
02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:31,199
sealed bids to see if the other land
owner wanted it. I'm not criticizing

1612
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:35,519
what she that decision at all. Um but
that's what I understood was the

1613
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:42,399
decision. I so the the reason there are
two documents prepared is the canvas

1614
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:49,040
title standards require that the fact
that the de was approved by the council

1615
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:53,679
being available for somebody to review.
And the easiest way to do that is to put

1616
02:16:50,800 --> 02:17:00,080
it in a resolution. uh makes it makes it
much easier to find than just having it

1617
02:16:56,240 --> 02:17:06,639
in the minutes of your meeting. Also, I
forgot to put a two-inch margin on the

1618
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:11,599
first page. So, if it is adopted,
if you stick around 10 minutes after the

1619
02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:15,040
meeting, so we can add a few huddle
space to the front of the first page.

1620
02:17:13,679 --> 02:17:21,120
» There's another correction on joint
tendency. You say Adam J. Devolt and

1621
02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:26,319
Haley MD husband. Oh, no. It says in
your h has down here below it says

1622
02:17:23,599 --> 02:17:29,439
husband as wife instead of and wife.
>> Oh it does

1623
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:35,240
» second paragraph down.
>> That's just kind of

1624
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:35,240
» I will need to make that that.

1625
02:17:36,559 --> 02:17:44,639
» So we just need a motion to adopt this
resolution

1626
02:17:41,359 --> 02:17:48,960
and the joint teny.
>> Yes.

1627
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:54,719
I make the motion we adopt the
resolution of the city of Becky hands

1628
02:17:51,599 --> 02:18:00,479
authorizing the conveyance of certain
real estate to Adam Jolt and Haley and

1629
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:05,000
Bolt as well as the joint Tennessee
Tennessee claim D.

1630
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:16,280
I'll
in favor

1631
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:33,519
next one is I did more digging
for QuickBooks

1632
02:18:30,319 --> 02:18:37,840
and I got more answers.
Um,

1633
02:18:35,359 --> 02:18:41,760
so he was able to provide me with a
quote

1634
02:18:39,439 --> 02:18:49,120
with the discount. Once they renew the
tax, then it'll be $34560

1635
02:18:46,719 --> 02:18:57,240
per month.
Per my bad. Yeah, per month. Which is

1636
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:57,240
4,000.

1637
02:18:59,920 --> 02:19:08,160
It's less than G Works per year
>> and that gives you the both computers

1638
02:19:05,920 --> 02:19:11,439
access the same documents.
>> Yes, this is with the cloud hosting.

1639
02:19:10,479 --> 02:19:18,880
» Okay. Okay.
>> The only thing this one does not give us

1640
02:19:14,399 --> 02:19:25,120
is it does not give us a a timekeeping.
That one is strictly the diamond which

1641
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:30,359
is $5,364
a year.

1642
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:30,359
» So just a little bit more.

1643
02:19:30,880 --> 02:19:34,120
more than

1644
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,800
» 4,000.

1645
02:19:38,639 --> 02:19:42,559
» That's not what we're quoted.
>> Oh, no, no, no. The diamond is more than

1646
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:46,319
So,
>> no, that's not what we're quoted.

1647
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:52,399
» Yeah, what we're quoted is
because that is the two users and the

1648
02:19:50,319 --> 02:19:58,080
cloud access. So, does Diamond come up
with cloud access in two years?

1649
02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:04,479
» With
with with just one person on a computer,

1650
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:06,560
Diamond is $5,364
a year.

1651
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:09,840
» So, you still have to add that extra
stuff on.

1652
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:18,160
» Okay.
>> So, um I looked into Redline

1653
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:27,439
and Thorough Red. I reached out to the
different cities through the CCMF8

1654
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:33,760
group and the consensus was thorough red
has terrible customer service.

1655
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:43,200
Like they will insult you over the
phone.

1656
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:49,280
Yes. Um Redline is a $1,000 starting. So
the first year

1657
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:53,240
I think is $1,000 and then every year
after that is $600.

1658
02:20:53,439 --> 02:21:04,880
So if we do quick books at the 4,600 you
said

1659
02:20:59,439 --> 02:21:08,160
» 4,100 345 * 12 is 41
>> $4391

1660
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:11,520
64
>> 365.97

1661
02:21:09,359 --> 02:21:14,520
» No no no we got the tax off
>> 4150.

1662
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:24,800
So at the 4150 plus the $600
a year

1663
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:28,560
uh 4750
>> then

1664
02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:34,080
it's less than G works with both of
those

1665
02:21:30,319 --> 02:21:42,960
» G works on a monthly basis
pay by year I'm going to say 5,400 per

1666
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:42,960
year roughly around there 5,200 5,0004

1667
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:50,840
So we're less money. We still need to
find a time clock.

1668
02:21:53,120 --> 02:22:03,439
» So it does do payroll where we can type
in time sheets, things like that. But to

1669
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:07,600
have a clock in clock out, that is just
an idea.

1670
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:10,960
» Can we upgrade at any given time?
Okay. If we wanted to start at platinum,

1671
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:15,280
but then we want to go to diamond to get
the time keeping thing, can we upgrade?

1672
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:21,359
» Um,
I didn't ask that, but

1673
02:22:18,399 --> 02:22:28,560
I'm sure it'd be easier
then just I don't know. Okay. So,

1674
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:34,000
it might be more money to pay for
QuickBooks diamond, but to have

1675
02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:39,920
everything in one program
would be more efficient and effective in

1676
02:22:36,800 --> 02:22:44,080
the long run to get flat access.
>> It would be another purchase though.

1677
02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:47,920
So,
>> what do you get from is it just the

1678
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:54,479
clock that you get extra from diamond?
So you get uh also advanced inventory,

1679
02:22:51,200 --> 02:23:01,280
advanced pricing, bill workflow
approvals, intercomp transactions.

1680
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:06,160
There's a lot of addons as well as time
elite. I did ask if we could just add on

1681
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:10,760
time elites
>> and he said no that these are like

1682
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:17,560
» how much was ADP? You remember Katie?

1683
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:24,399
You know what? I was just thinking if
everything was in one system.

1684
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:29,040
» Well, I know I hear you.
>> You know,

1685
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:33,200
how much money, how much more would it
really be by the time you added another?

1686
02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:37,600
» Well, what's the difference there
between the two?

1687
02:23:34,479 --> 02:23:45,120
» So, the difference between gold nothing
is 2210.

1688
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:47,840
» 2210 and diamond nothing is 5364.
enough for one user.

1689
02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:55,120
» That's one user.
>> So, we take the whatever we have minus

1690
02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:59,120
the 2210. We need to figure that out.
>> No cloud.

1691
02:23:57,359 --> 02:24:02,120
» That would be a separate purchase.
>> Yeah.

1692
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:08,880
» So,
like 131 a month. Would that you think

1693
02:24:07,359 --> 02:24:13,560
would be the same?
>> I believe so. Yes. The 131

1694
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:56,080
It's about $2,000 you order
to get the cloud. And is that what you

1695
02:24:53,200 --> 02:25:01,200
guys already
get? The extra user is an extra about

1696
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:05,600
$1,000.
>> So the extra cloud

1697
02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:11,479
» and the cloud is 131
20 per month.

1698
02:25:07,439 --> 02:25:11,479
» What is the extra user?

1699
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:18,160
So
>> like the what's what does it cost for an

1700
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:23,600
extra user?
>> I

1701
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:31,000
I believe so just looking at what it
costs per year and then adding a second

1702
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:31,000
user it looks like it adds about $1,000.

1703
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:41,680
» It looks like it's about
>> How much How much is the yearly?

1704
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:47,800
» So the yearly is 2210.
per month for two users is 260 minutes.

1705
02:26:00,880 --> 02:26:07,439
I think it's going to be at least $2,000
more than what the diamond price is

1706
02:26:05,120 --> 02:26:14,560
right there.
So that 563 is probably going to be

1707
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:17,840
close to 7 and a half 7,500
is my estimation if everything stays the

1708
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:22,960
same.
>> Yes.

1709
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:28,240
» So Adam, could you get uh a bid the same
thing but in a diamond version

1710
02:26:26,399 --> 02:26:34,160
» and then maybe next week we can
>> we got to make a decision next time. Um,

1711
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:40,000
would it also be worth asking in your
email group other little communities

1712
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:46,080
what they use for a time keeping option
and then, you know, pick three of them

1713
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:49,880
and maybe get some cost some prices for
us for next week?

1714
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:55,240
» Yep.

1715
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:11,359
Okay.
>> Uh, do we have a start? Well, no, we

1716
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:13,520
don't have a start date because we don't
Oh, another thing I was going to ask

1717
02:27:12,880 --> 02:27:17,600
you.
>> I noticed that on

1718
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:21,840
George Street there was like a building
that was pulled in

1719
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:27,120
next to that house that had the
>> Mr. D.

1720
02:27:22,880 --> 02:27:31,760
» Yeah. Did they Is that illegal? What
building

1721
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:36,080
» a mill like looks like a mill. You know
where the rock the little rock area is

1722
02:27:34,399 --> 02:27:39,280
right over here on this where they got
where it got dug.

1723
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:42,960
» Yeah. Utility pages.
>> Yeah. There's a little Yes.

1724
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:45,760
» And so I don't know if that's even a
legal area because it looks like they

1725
02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:48,640
just pulled it in the alley and I don't
know if that's

1726
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:53,280
» I think it's in the driveway.
>> But is it? I don't know.

1727
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:56,560
I think I mean
>> because it's like they pull in here for

1728
02:27:54,560 --> 02:28:02,560
the driveway and then it's over here.
But maybe I'm looking at it,

1729
02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:06,720
» but they also
>> I don't know. But they also there also

1730
02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:10,240
is a like they have to pay for a
building

1731
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:16,560
» at the very least.
>> I don't know if they challenge.

1732
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:19,920
» So I don't I don't know if it's even I
don't even know if Buzz ever got a

1733
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:26,600
building permit for his tiny house.
What's happening?

1734
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:26,600
» Just something that sitting

1735
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:30,200
there

1736
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,720
» another Buzz project that didn't get
left.

1737
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:41,000
» Does he live? Does he live there?
>> No.

1738
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:41,000
» He's still living in his house.

1739
02:28:42,479 --> 02:28:48,280
» But was the plan for that for somebody
to live

1740
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:48,280
» him and his wife?

1741
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:56,120
He was going to live there and he was
going to sell his house out there in the

1742
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:56,120
country to us.

1743
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:13,920
» The next sheet I have for you guys are
the taxes. So, last time we looked, it

1744
02:29:11,359 --> 02:29:21,439
was just beginning.
we were just beginning to see those

1745
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:26,200
taxes come back and uh everything like
that. But here you can see like

1746
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:34,840
uh
August

1747
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:34,840
grand total was $9,6114

1748
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:44,520
where last year August
was 3,004

1749
02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:55,240
$200 and some so it's doubled in August
the amount of tax the received back

1750
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:04,160
» the third sheet.
>> Oh, there's a third sheet.

1751
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:08,960
» Sorry, there was,600.
>> Okay.

1752
02:30:04,960 --> 02:30:17,640
» And then this sheet is for 25. So from
24 the August month. So 14143

1753
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:17,640
plus 3,74,000

1754
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:21,840
» and that's my one person sales tax
increase.

1755
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:24,880
» So
When we

1756
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:26,560
April
>> April. Yes.

1757
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,720
» Of this year.
>> Yes.

1758
02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:33,640
» Awesome.
>> Yeah.

1759
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:33,640
Awesome.

1760
02:30:34,399 --> 02:30:44,399
» So, I haven't done the maths yet to see
how much more it is from last year. I'm

1761
02:30:40,240 --> 02:30:49,120
waiting till like October, December.
I don't know.

1762
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:53,479
» Oh, thank you for that.
I have to split. Is there anything?

1763
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:58,280
» Who's famous?

1764
02:30:58,960 --> 02:31:08,319
» Um, famous. Oh, it's supposed to be
famous goods. I missed

1765
02:31:04,160 --> 02:31:11,359
» Sorry. Fun name.
>> We have a fun name.

1766
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:18,399
» Is that this place?
>> Yes, it is.

1767
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:23,040
» They uh turned in their CNB uh request
for a license.

1768
02:31:20,960 --> 02:31:30,479
So,
now I I can't remember. Do we do it just

1769
02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:32,800
till the end of the year or do we do it
for a year?

1770
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:35,760
» I think it's till the end of year.
>> The end of year

1771
02:31:33,920 --> 02:31:40,920
» because it seems like they have to
January they have a new one. That's what

1772
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:40,920
I thought.

1773
02:31:40,960 --> 02:31:49,680
» Yes.
>> How much would they be charges for it?

1774
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:53,319
We have to pay $25 to the states. We
charge $50.

1775
02:31:53,680 --> 02:32:01,359
» Like, do we rate that?
>> Do you want to sell here or not?

1776
02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:04,000
» I wouldn't. Do they want to sell here or
not?

1777
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:05,680
» I wouldn't prorate it.
>> So, the state's not going to rate it.

1778
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:08,680
So,
>> nope.

1779
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:18,439
» It's going to tell you 25 to 25.
>> Change.

1780
02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:18,439
» Yeah. the top like

1781
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:29,720
» they still got the farmer's table.
>> Yep. I think that was probably

1782
02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:37,680
» Are the prices What are the prices?
>> I believe they've got to be honest. I

1783
02:32:35,359 --> 02:32:43,040
only go in there by shoe and the
occasional pop.

1784
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:45,840
» I go to that
expensive for

1785
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:49,840
Well, I don't buy that.
>> It's up to you.

1786
02:32:46,960 --> 02:32:54,240
» Go to Go to the casino.
>> Go to Golden Eagle.

1787
02:32:51,920 --> 02:33:00,080
» Go to Golden Eagle. My husband shoes.
Golden Eagle is about $15

1788
02:32:58,000 --> 02:33:03,200
roll. Cheaper than Ziggler.
>> I don't know. I don't know if that pays

1789
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:08,280
for the gas compared to Dash.
>> We'll get the gas every day.

1790
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:08,280
» Get the gas.

1791
02:33:08,319 --> 02:33:15,280
» Get your gas up there cheaper than
>> Are they going to have some fried food?

1792
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:18,319
They got food
>> street.

1793
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:21,319
» Yeah, they reopen. They've got the s
open

1794
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:29,760
order pizza and everything,
>> but like there's a big fryer back there

1795
02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:34,120
and I feel like they the maybe somebody
said that they're going to have like

1796
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:34,120
fried chicken.

1797
02:33:34,479 --> 02:33:40,800
» There's a big fryer.
>> I don't know.

1798
02:33:38,960 --> 02:33:45,600
» Are we ready to adjourn?
Are we approving their liquor license

1799
02:33:44,399 --> 02:33:52,760
serial malt beverage?
>> I make approveds

1800
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:52,760
LLC serial malt beverage.

1801
02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:58,000
» All in favor?
Any

1802
02:33:56,160 --> 02:34:01,520
» oppos?
Make a motion we

1803
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:04,520
second. All in
>> favor.

1804
02:34:20,399 --> 02:34:23,120
Oh, thank you.