1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:21,760 Good evening. This is the city of Elmerage planning and zoning commission meeting. Today is September 8th, 2026. It is now 6 p.m. We are located in the city council chambers, located at 10000, North Elmerage Road, Elmerage, Arizona. Please rise and join me for the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:45,460 please have the clerk take roll. 3 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:54,150 Philip Bueno, Jamie Garcia. 4 00:00:54,910 --> 00:00:55,190 President. 5 00:00:55,810 --> 00:00:56,630 Thomas Gower. 6 00:00:57,950 --> 00:00:59,390 William Aheah. 7 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:02,090 President Brian Campbell-Sendafil. 8 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:04,130 President Thomas George. 9 00:01:04,750 --> 00:01:06,390 President Jason Mingoa. 10 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:12,690 Thank you, and at this time, I would like to ask our alternate commissioners to join us on the dice. 11 00:01:41,170 --> 00:01:48,490 The first item on the agenda is consideration and action to approve the minutes of the July 14th, 2026 planning and zoning commission meeting. 12 00:01:49,470 --> 00:01:54,010 Thank you, can I get a motion to approve the minutes for the July 14th, 2026 planning and zoning commission meeting? 13 00:01:54,930 --> 00:02:00,130 I make the recommendation to approve the minutes of the July 14th, 2026. 14 00:02:00,130 --> 00:02:01,170 six. Can I get a second? 15 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Second. 16 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:11,150 Excuse me. All in favor? 17 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:12,830 Aye. 18 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:13,290 Aye. 19 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Motion approved. 20 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:22,300 The next item on the agenda is a public hearing. 21 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:32,460 Closer of a public hearing to review and provide a recommendation to the City Council on a request for conditional use permit for retail smoke vape shop use in the urban 22 00:02:32,460 --> 00:02:36,380 One-quarter zone at 11713 was Thunderbird Road. 23 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:38,740 Elmerajer is on a 8-5-3-3-5. 24 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,800 Thank you. 25 00:02:41,060 --> 00:02:42,740 And now we'll open the public hearing. 26 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,120 Do we have a presentation from staff, excuse me. 27 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:50,260 Yes, Vice Chair, we do have a quick presentation. 28 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,180 Also, we do have the applicants in attendance to ask, 29 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:57,280 I'm sorry, to address any questions from the commission. 30 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,660 All right, well, thank you, Cory. 31 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Good evening, Vice Chair, members of the commission. 32 00:03:04,660 --> 00:03:15,720 Today we do have an action item for your review and to provide a recommendation to the Elmerage City Council on the conditions permit for a retail vape and smoke shop. 33 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:29,240 The proposed location for the vape shop is a vape building at 11713 West Thunderbird Road. 34 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:36,840 The building is approximately 4,413 square feet, and the last known use was an HVAC company. 35 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:46,400 The site sits within the Thunderbird Core planning area of the 2020 Omraj General Plan. 36 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:54,360 As Cory mentioned, it is the Urban Corridor, our commercial zoning area. 37 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,100 It's also within the Thunderbird overlay district. 38 00:03:58,420 --> 00:04:02,380 However, it being an existing building prior to the ordinance, 39 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 it's not subject to any overlay regulations. 40 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:12,320 As I mentioned, the building is currently vacant, 41 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,000 and the official proposed use is for a retail vape shop. 42 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,880 I'm sorry, vape and smoke shop. 43 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 And for our zoning code, this use requires the approval 44 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,720 of a conditioners permit before the applicant may proceed 45 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,460 with 10 improvements and to open up for business. 46 00:04:34,660 --> 00:04:38,500 Jose, if I'm eight, you go back to the previous slide. 47 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:44,000 Is that the right location or the, yes. 48 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:49,360 There are some boundaries issues 49 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:52,260 that need to be addressed by the owners, 50 00:04:52,540 --> 00:04:55,140 but if you can talk by the image, 51 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:58,500 it does, the property line does overlap 52 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:59,780 over the existing restaurant. 53 00:05:00,850 --> 00:05:16,690 And I brought up to the attention of the real estate agent when they were calling in. But again, it shouldn't have any, any, any, any, any, it shouldn't, it shouldn't affect the, the conditioners permit. Thank you, listen. 54 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:22,210 before we move on just again just for those who are not familiar this is 55 00:05:22,210 --> 00:05:26,110 located at the end of Thunderbird and Grand Avenue it's between it's 56 00:05:26,110 --> 00:05:31,190 located between a big and lots the restaurant and perhaps pets across the 57 00:05:31,950 --> 00:05:33,890 street thank you next slide 58 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,520 here we have a photo of the from the facade of the 59 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:46,860 building as you can see there are two openings of the building and under the 60 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:54,940 The stipulations, the applicant must obtain permits for the attainment improvements, which includes signage in any interior, exterior upgrades. 61 00:05:55,660 --> 00:06:04,140 If the condition you use permits is approved, staff will work with the applicant to address any concern staff has to bring the building up to code. 62 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:13,760 This includes parking, signage, traction closures, interior and exterior improvements, just to name a few items that we would like to discuss. 63 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,420 Here is a list of stipulations in the staff report. 64 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,900 I'd be happy to answer any questions at the conclusion of my presentation. 65 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,940 The planning commission may add and delete and demand or accept the stipulations as presented 66 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:31,440 by staff. 67 00:06:36,420 --> 00:06:41,820 The technical advisory committee has reviewed the application and determined that the project 68 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,380 is appropriate to move forward with the public hearing. 69 00:06:45,380 --> 00:06:51,040 The applicant will be required to consent to the tax stipulations per the memorandum 70 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,980 dated August 7th, 2026, and the applicant has provided a written consent to staff. 71 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:02,000 A review from Lookup or Space was not required for this application. 72 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:07,480 Public comments, staff has received no comments regarding this item. 73 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:14,960 So staff is seeking a review and a recommendation from the Planning Commission to the City Council 74 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,640 of Omoraj. 75 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,680 This item is scheduled to be presented to City Council for a final action on October 6th, 76 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:29,360 2026, and if approved, the applicant can submit the site and tenement improvement plans 77 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,320 for review and approval. 78 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:37,390 Vice Chair, members of the commission, this concludes my presentation. 79 00:07:38,410 --> 00:07:42,190 As I mentioned, the applicant and are here in attendance and we can answer any questions 80 00:07:42,190 --> 00:07:43,430 that you may have at this time. 81 00:07:44,930 --> 00:07:45,650 Thank you, Jose. 82 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:50,230 but this time I can invite the applicant or representative to add anything 83 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:51,130 additional at the podium. 84 00:07:54,170 --> 00:07:57,050 Please. Please state your name and address for the 85 00:07:57,050 --> 00:08:02,130 record also. Most of the 1-1-1-713 west on the 86 00:08:02,130 --> 00:08:02,490 bird road. 87 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:07,040 Thank you. And do you have anything additional to add to the 88 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:11,640 presentation or anything you feel that the commissioners members of the public would 89 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,940 like to know an addition? I have a location already and I'm looking to expand in 90 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:17,960 in the city of Elmerage. 91 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:20,140 That's great. 92 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 We will now open the floor for public comment. 93 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,060 Is anyone present? 94 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,540 I'd like to speak 95 00:08:31,490 --> 00:08:32,790 hearing none. 96 00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:37,290 Commissioners, any additional questions for staff? 97 00:08:38,350 --> 00:08:42,050 We will start with Commissioner Mahia. 98 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:48,440 Yes, now my question, I don't know if this would be to the applicant or to staff. 99 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:58,800 But has there been adequate public input or any public concerns or comments from the community that are being considered or observed? 100 00:09:01,380 --> 00:09:08,860 Commissioner members, so we have now received any comments, and we need to follow state law of notifying neighbors within 200 feet from the property. 101 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:12,300 Okay, that's all that I have. Thank you. 102 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:13,660 Thank you. 103 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:14,720 Thank you, Commissioner Garcia. 104 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:14,960 Yeah, 105 00:09:17,020 --> 00:09:18,100 I have a couple questions. 106 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:25,700 There was some concern regarding parking and accessible parking, my candy cap spots. 107 00:09:26,740 --> 00:09:36,440 Do you have the space to do that just looking at the map I couldn't tell you have the space for the, what is it required 14 spaces? 108 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:44,060 So the property itself is 4,000 square feet, but we're not using the whole property as a retail shop. 109 00:09:44,060 --> 00:09:48,580 So about 1800 square feet is going to be used for the front and the back will be storage. 110 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,300 So we have about eight parking spots in the front. 111 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:59,960 Staff, are you able to confirm just based on- 112 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:27,600 On the the notes I read ahead, it was stated that there should be 14 parking spaces and one accessible. Yeah, so we are going to confirm that with the applicant once the condition permit is approved. So we're going to work with the applicant to ensure that there's a handicap parking, and then we're going to recalculate the script footage based on the number of square footage they're going to use for the building. 113 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:42,580 Oh, gotcha. Okay. And then because the staff mentioned it, sorry, I didn't, I thought maybe we were going to ask before did we, do we have concerns about the fact that the lot carries into kind of the second business there? 114 00:10:43,780 --> 00:10:52,460 Again, I didn't mention it to the real estate agent when I was getting, when I was feeling phone calls, this property has been in sale for a couple of months and I did bring it up to the real estate agent. 115 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:58,240 So right now, it's more of a lack of better terms, civil matter. 116 00:10:58,680 --> 00:10:59,160 Oh, okay. 117 00:10:59,560 --> 00:10:59,780 Okay. 118 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:04,000 So, but it should not affect the parking requirements. 119 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:10,120 But there has to be some kind of resolution between the neighbors to move either merged the parcels or move the line. 120 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Gotcha. 121 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:16,980 Yeah, I didn't realize that until you pointed that out with the photo that we, okay. 122 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:25,340 Okay. And then I think those are all my questions. Thank you. 123 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:26,520 Thank you. 124 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,320 Thank you, and Commissioner George. 125 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:39,970 The red box. I was going to ask about that, but then that of the little white building, but that was pretty clear. 126 00:11:40,490 --> 00:11:42,170 I saw that movie. Good luck. 127 00:11:44,290 --> 00:11:45,150 And Commissioner Mingura. 128 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:47,390 There are not many questions at this time. 129 00:11:48,770 --> 00:11:52,310 Thank you. And I have no questions that were addressed in the 130 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:55,870 in the report, so thank you. 131 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:59,450 If there's no further comments, I will close the public hearing. 132 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:03,120 Public hearing is now closed. 133 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:05,680 Commissioners may now deliberate. 134 00:12:08,630 --> 00:12:10,210 Can I get a motion? 135 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:16,890 Do you like to discuss, yeah? 136 00:12:17,890 --> 00:12:18,030 Okay. 137 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:23,630 Yeah, so it seems like the applicant is already in this business and they're expanding. 138 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:26,070 So definitely growth in the business. 139 00:12:26,070 --> 00:12:32,170 it's definitely the capitalistic way that we'd like a thing so that also 140 00:12:32,170 --> 00:12:37,450 means more revenue for the city. So definitely something that's taken to 141 00:12:37,450 --> 00:12:44,510 consideration. And was the building previously vacant? Or was it occupied? 142 00:12:49,330 --> 00:12:57,270 Well if nothing further then I suppose we'll take a motion. I was 143 00:12:57,270 --> 00:13:03,450 Just to say that as well, it's good to see that we're using a vacant building that's been there for quite a while and puts them used to it. 144 00:13:03,610 --> 00:13:06,210 So that's positive on my back. 145 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:19,680 I move to recommend approval of the conditional use permit for a retail smoke vape shop. 146 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:26,080 Use in an urban corridor zone at 11713 West Thunderbird Road, as presented. 147 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,340 Thank you. 148 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Can I get a second? 149 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:29,100 I'll second. 150 00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:31,520 All in favor? 151 00:13:32,180 --> 00:13:32,340 Aye. 152 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:32,660 Aye. 153 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:32,660 Okay, 154 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:36,200 approved. 155 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:45,100 Are you using the wait if there's unanimous, we don't, yeah, if it's unanimous, you don't. 156 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:53,770 The next item on the agenda is a public hearing, closer of a public hearing to review and 157 00:13:53,770 --> 00:13:59,110 provide recommendation to the Emirates City Council on a request for conditional use permit for 158 00:13:59,110 --> 00:14:02,970 public or installation of a large mirror on an existing building and 159 00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:10,410 a commerce park zoning at 8.3, 7.6, note the Emirates Road in the Emirates, Arizona, 8.5, 3.5. 160 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:13,290 Thank you, staff. Do we have a presentation? 161 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:26,260 Yes, Vice Chair, we do have a presentation. Did you open the meeting? 162 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Yeah, wait. To me, open the public hearing. 163 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:32,620 I apologize. The public hearing is now open. 164 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,900 Thank you very much, sir. Again, Cory, thank you very much. 165 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:45,640 Our second item is a request to review and recommend to the City of Omaha's City Council. 166 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,360 So a condition use permit for a public art, a proposed mural on an existing building. 167 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:59,970 The proposed mural site is located on a- 168 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,760 And the existing building owned by the Arizona Cannabis Society at 937-6 North El Maraud Road. The property is at approximately 1.6 acres and is situated within the Commerce Industry Park Planning Area of the 2020 El Maraud General Plan. The zoning for the area is Commerce Park and it falls within the Luke Air Force noise contour and military territory area. There are no flood items to be addressed. 169 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,900 The current land use is the Ameri1 Establishment Use. 170 00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:39,880 While the proposed use is for a public art, 171 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,520 it is required by our zoning code 172 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,980 that a condition primary being necessary 173 00:15:44,980 --> 00:15:46,940 before the mirror can be installed. 174 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:54,730 In this slide, we can see the two walls and the pillar 175 00:15:54,730 --> 00:15:57,030 where the proposed mirror would be installed. 176 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,170 Image A shows the south-facing wall 177 00:16:01,090 --> 00:16:05,130 and image B shows the East Facing Wall along El Marage Road. 178 00:16:05,690 --> 00:16:10,550 The arrows on the aerial shows the location of the mural 179 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:12,070 from a planned view. 180 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:14,930 So B will be facing El Marage Road 181 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:17,670 and A is facing the neighboring to the south. 182 00:16:21,890 --> 00:16:24,990 Here is the artwork for the proposed mural 183 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:26,630 called Sonoran Bloom. 184 00:16:27,770 --> 00:16:29,370 We'll let the applicant and the artist 185 00:16:29,370 --> 00:16:30,630 provide more additional information 186 00:16:30,630 --> 00:16:37,450 on the concept of the mural, stated in the Department of Narrative, these images will be installed 187 00:16:37,450 --> 00:16:41,830 on the east and south wall and on the pillar of the front entry of the building. 188 00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:50,430 The image below is a rendering of the east wall facing Elmer Road showing the final product 189 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:52,350 for passifiers to see. 190 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:00,350 Here is a list of the civilizations from staff in the staff report. 191 00:17:00,350 --> 00:17:03,970 And again, I'd be happy to answer any questions after my presentation. 192 00:17:04,950 --> 00:17:10,970 And again, the plans in commission may add, delete, or amend, or accept the stipulations 193 00:17:10,970 --> 00:17:12,090 as presented by staff. 194 00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:20,730 The Technical Advisory Committee has reviewed the application and determined that the project 195 00:17:20,730 --> 00:17:23,650 is appropriate to move forward for the public hearings. 196 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:31,310 The applicant will be required to consent to the tax stipulations for the memorandum dated 197 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:35,370 August 26, 2026, and we have received consent. 198 00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:40,390 This item was not required to be reviewed by Look Air Force Base. 199 00:17:41,710 --> 00:17:46,730 And public comment, we received one inquiry regarding the project, but no comments on 200 00:17:46,730 --> 00:17:49,970 in favor or against the proposed development or mirror. 201 00:17:51,310 --> 00:17:58,090 Again, today we're seeking a recommendation from the Planning Commission, and this item 202 00:17:58,090 --> 00:18:05,470 The item is scheduled to be on the October 6th, 20th, 26th agenda for final action from council. 203 00:18:06,570 --> 00:18:09,810 And if you approve, the applicant can commence with the installation of the mural. 204 00:18:12,820 --> 00:18:16,820 This concludes my presentation by Sir Campbell, members of the commission. 205 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:20,980 The applicants are here in attendance and we'll be happy to answer any of your questions. 206 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:23,180 Thank you, Jose. 207 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,960 At this time, can we, if somebody would like to come to the podium, please state your name. 208 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,720 and address for the record. I might have the managers 209 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,980 to eat the address. I'm Darryl Morris. I'm a manager over at the Arizona 210 00:18:36,980 --> 00:18:40,320 Cannabis Society. Real quick on the first slide the address is 211 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,940 nine or eight three seven six on that first slide ahead and nine. 212 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,620 So our address is eight three seven six north umorazh road. 213 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:54,560 Thank you. Is Leah Stugen. I am the main applicant but also the artist 214 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,300 behind the design. So yeah the whole purpose behind 215 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:12,740 This mural is to educate our local community about native flowers to Arizona as well as bringing beautification to the surrounding areas and also becoming a potential landmark to the local community. 216 00:19:13,460 --> 00:19:25,120 Yeah, so that's kind of the reason why we want to do something like this and wanted to create something that, again, really just showed the beauty behind native Arizona flowers. 217 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:38,840 I know that they have plans in the future for doing some sort of, like, plans and stuff in the front area, again, using it as a purpose to educate our local community about our native land, so, yeah. 218 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Thank you. 219 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,420 Commissioners, any questions for staff at the applicant at this time, starting with Commissioner? 220 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:53,320 Well first I was going to ask if there was an RFP those issued but seeing that it's kind 221 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,980 of in-house so it seems like that was bypassed and then local artists it seems like. 222 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:29,760 You're local. So that would address my other concern. The other thing that I question that I have is I see that it goes up to like 50 feet high and licking at the design, are you going to need like a scissor lift or anything so that we could not get on the sidewalk because I know that that heavy machinery could actually crack the sidewalk in. Correct. Yeah, I would be doing a scissor lift or a ladder or scaffolding a scaffolding. Okay. And with the scaffolding, then 223 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,420 and need an additional permits? 224 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,880 I would have to check with our building official on that. 225 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:37,620 Okay. 226 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,880 I'm asking from previous experience, that's fine. 227 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,260 Good to know. 228 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:46,420 And then, yeah, I mean, I just want to know, 229 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,640 is there a significance to like the plants 230 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,360 that you've chosen here? 231 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,580 Is there like a native plant or something that says like, 232 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,940 this is Arizona, is one of these like the Arizona plant or? 233 00:20:57,940 --> 00:21:01,900 Yeah, of course we have our classic soaro or prickly pear 234 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:06,040 So we wanted to make sure that those were also featured on both sides of the wall 235 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,160 But then I also wanted to look into more native wildflowers as well 236 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,500 So we have some california poppies. We have pink fairy dusters. We have blue pines checkery 237 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:23,380 Just in my research with Arizona native flowers. Those were like the main ones that popped up 238 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:24,780 consistently 239 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:30,520 and just overall, I feel like work really well with the design. 240 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:35,260 Yeah, no, definitely very vibrant, so I do appreciate that. 241 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,760 That's all that I have. Thank you. 242 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:39,580 Thank you, Commissioner Garcia. 243 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,300 The design is beautiful, so can't wait to see it. 244 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Let's see what I had a question about. 245 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,360 Oh, it's just unfortunate that that's not part of downtown. 246 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:59,140 down and we don't get to see it all the time unless we're passing by but it's 247 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:04,700 really nice design. Is this something you've done before? Yes, so I've had a 248 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:08,660 lot of experiences assisting in murals. This year I've been diving into it as 249 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:13,940 just my own personal business as well. Okay. So I do have quite a bit of experience 250 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:18,720 working on very large scale murals. The largest one that I've got to help on was 251 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:25,280 over 50 feet high and about 90 feet wide. So again that required some special 252 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,300 certifications and give me a very good understanding of how the whole process is supposed to go. 253 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,380 Okay, good. And then do you know how long the process would take? 254 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:40,020 We're looking at about two, two and a half weeks. So potentially starting October 13th and ending 255 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:48,400 on October 29th. It cools down. Yeah, good idea. And then I had one question. Are we able to ask 256 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,420 what the comment was that was submitted to the city. 257 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,960 It was more of an inquiry. 258 00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:57,660 I didn't want to know what wasn't going on the mural. 259 00:22:57,820 --> 00:23:00,960 And at the time, we didn't have the staff report available. 260 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Oh, OK. 261 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,700 So we just told them to check with us back. 262 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,360 OK. 263 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:06,520 The lab. 264 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Thank you. 265 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:09,880 Commissioner George. 266 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,260 I drive by there every day on the way to pick up my son 267 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:14,700 from school. 268 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:20,860 and I thought the new paint looked good but wow that's gorgeous I can't wait to see it. 269 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:21,320 Thank you. 270 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,700 Thank you and Commissioner McGurr. 271 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,880 My question was regarding the time frame was answered. 272 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Okay, thank you. 273 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Thank you and I have no questions. 274 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:33,860 Fortunately that weren't asked. 275 00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:38,980 The time frame was my biggest one and then thank you for the scaffolding question. 276 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,900 We'll now open the floor for public comments. 277 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,080 if anyone wishes to speak, is anyone online? 278 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:47,620 Any audience? 279 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Please, please say your name and address for the record. 280 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,660 Home address or the address of the business? 281 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,060 So, 8376, Elmeraj Road. 282 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,580 So my name is Joey, Joseph. 283 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,360 I'm one of the managers at Arizona Canada Society. 284 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,080 I wasn't really prepared to speak, 285 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:14,420 but I'll try to just speak my mind and speak to the heart. 286 00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:32,320 This is a, it may be a big building, but as a small business at heart kind of competing with all of the other bigger businesses around here, and we think something like this would also kind of just help not only our business but the city as well kind of catalyze what they said more revenue for the city, right? 287 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,640 And to more personally, I was a little bit lost trying to find another job. 288 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:44,880 The owners found me working at a coffee shop and I've always going to remember that. 289 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,300 And kind of working my way up, just trying to be in fighting for 290 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:55,580 this business as hard as I can, including just being here supporting the artist, supporting the business. 291 00:24:56,540 --> 00:24:59,160 So I'm going to do whatever I can to kind of make this. 292 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,960 You 293 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Go along, but thank you so much. Appreciate you. Thank you for your comment. Yeah. 294 00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:11,130 Public 295 00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:13,710 caring is closed. 296 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,300 Commissioners can now deliberate. 297 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,940 Yeah, I don't know if there would be any additional 298 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:29,900 like revenue off of commissioning and painting, but hopefully that'll drive additional sales. 299 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:42,340 so yeah I definitely think it's good to see our going up on spaces and especially like in blank this is a blank canvas right here so it's good to see that. 300 00:25:46,010 --> 00:25:58,310 I also like the the front facade and the colors of the building so it's I'm excited to see the changes and looking forward to some color in that area. 301 00:25:58,310 --> 00:26:02,550 Yeah, Commissioner's anything further? 302 00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:05,610 Yeah, just in the more comments, I mean I said I'd love to design. 303 00:26:05,850 --> 00:26:09,130 I think you're right, I think it will draw people to the building. 304 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:13,190 I mean, I'm one of those people that likes to stop and see if we roll and take a picture of it. 305 00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:15,070 So I think it will draw some business. 306 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:19,590 That's same, it's beautiful. 307 00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:25,550 Is there any chance you could do some of this on Thunderbird? 308 00:26:26,770 --> 00:26:27,910 I live on Thunderbird. 309 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:33,280 Thank you, at this time Commissioner, can I get a motion? 310 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,200 I 311 00:26:36,600 --> 00:27:00,240 would like, yes, I would like to make the recommendation to approve to the city of the El Marage City Council under request for a conditional use permit for a public heart installation of a large mural on an existing building in the Commerce Park zoning at 8376 North El Marage Road, El Marage was only a 535. 312 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,640 3-5. 313 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:01,660 Thank you. 314 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,180 Can I get a second? 315 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Second. 316 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:04,020 All in favor? 317 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Aye. 318 00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:05,360 Aye. 319 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,780 Past. 320 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Approved. 321 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:10,480 Excuse me. 322 00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:21,950 The next item on the agenda is a staff report. 323 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:27,370 The commission may not discuss or act upon any matter unless the matter is properly noticed for legal action. 324 00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:37,120 Good evening, commission members. 325 00:27:39,580 --> 00:27:41,780 It's hard to say, but we're kind of winding down the year already. 326 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,540 I know we're in September. 327 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,740 We only have a few months left. 328 00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:50,680 and we do have, as of right now, we do have something in line for an October meeting which 329 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:58,220 will be on the 13th of October and it will be at the PD room because of the elections. 330 00:27:59,180 --> 00:28:02,880 So I'll give you guys posted on that if anything changes, but right now we have one item for October. 331 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:05,180 And that's all I have. 332 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,440 Good evening commissioners. 333 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:15,140 This is my last meeting. 334 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:21,980 I mean, I'm retiring October 2nd, almost 14 years with the city, 335 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:30,580 eight with the state, 23 years with the year 4, so it all calculates the 47 years. 336 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:39,440 And I just wanted to thank you for letting me serve, and it's been one heck of a ride. 337 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:46,960 So I really, really love this city and appreciate and respect all you do, so thank you. 338 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:50,810 Thank you. 339 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Nothing to report over here. 340 00:28:59,930 --> 00:29:02,010 Next item on the agenda is commissioners comments. 341 00:29:02,650 --> 00:29:06,030 The commission may not discuss or act upon any matter unless the matter is properly knows 342 00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:06,770 fully action. 343 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,560 At this time, commissioners please give any comments or feel free. 344 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Well, first and foremost, I'd like to start by thanking Tom Doyle for your service here to the city and also want to let you know that you're like apparently nationally know now that a conference in Miami and they're like, oh, do you know Tom Doyle? 345 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,200 And I'm like, yes, I do. 346 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,220 You know, that was very bizarre. 347 00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:38,800 So just wanted to let you know that your work and your networking has definitely made its way across the nation. 348 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,380 And so definitely thank you and it's an honor to have worked with you. 349 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:48,540 And I'd like to thank staff and my fellow commissioners as well, looking forward to the next meeting. 350 00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:58,540 Well, thank you, Tom, for your dedication and service to the city. 351 00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,980 It's no small fee. 352 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:27,560 We are undertaking to public service, so we thank you for that. At this time, I'm planning on giving my own personal resignation. With the commission, I currently moved out of the city or will be moving out of the city. And so I will be resigning from the PNZ commission effective today. But I truly want to thank staff, my fellow commissioners, 353 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:35,580 members of council for the opportunity to serve the city and to learn so much. So thank you. 354 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:46,660 Congratulations on your retirement. That's a lot of years well worth it. I hope that you 355 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:52,400 leave Elmerage knowing that you made a difference. Thanks, Jeff, for the presentations. 356 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:55,260 Sure, 357 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,020 you're leaving us. Fine. 358 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:06,920 Thank you for everything you've done to put every all the time and effort you put into the planning and zoning commission. 359 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:10,720 Thank you and good luck to you. 360 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,320 Congratulations on your retirements here. 361 00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:18,030 Congratulations. 362 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:19,330 47. Wow. 363 00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:20,770 I was just thinking about that. 364 00:31:20,890 --> 00:31:23,130 I'm kind of close to that, but I'm not going anywhere. 365 00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:25,770 I got a young son. 366 00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:26,870 I don't get to retire. 367 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:31,010 I'm glad it's not in my cards, but if I could for you, man. 368 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:33,190 Enjoy it for both of us. 369 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:39,590 Hearing nothing further, the time is now 6.31, and this meeting is now adjourned.