[4:13] Good morning. We will begin this, uh, Board of County Commissioners regular [4:19] Board of County Commissioners regular meeting. [4:19] It is Tuesday, officially September. Can't believe it. [4:23] We begin each meeting with an invocation, [4:26] and Pastor Raymond Pettit from Outside the Gates Worship is here to, um, [4:31] share with us. We invite you to join and stand with us in this invocation. [4:37] Good morning, all. [4:39] Thank you Most gracious Heavenly Father, we come to you with a heart heavy. [4:43] Lord, this year has gone by, it's flown by, but Father, [4:47] we're still doing your work here in the County Commission. [4:50] They've made so many decisions. [4:52] I pray that you just continue to give them the guidance and wisdom to continue the [4:57] work you've set before them. [4:59] Father, as the leaves change and they're turning beautiful, [5:03] let our hearts be the same. [5:05] And Father, we just pray that as we approach Labor Day, [5:08] that you would just give us an ability to look into what you're doing through us and [5:13] for us, with us. Father, [5:15] we give you the glory and the honor because it's all yours anyways. [5:19] We ask these in Jesus' name. Amen. [5:21] Commissioner Williams, would you lead us in the pledge? [5:31] United States of America. [5:32] Item 3. Item number 3 is staff emergency items, [5:38] and I'm unaware of any staff emergency items today. Item 4. [5:45] Item number 4 is changes, postponements, [5:50] and notice of the next meeting. [5:54] I'm unaware of any changes or postponements to today's [6:01] agenda, and the next meeting will be September 8th at 9:00 [6:08] AM. [6:08] Item 5. [6:12] Item number 5 is the consent calendar, [6:15] including items 5A through 5T2. [6:18] Okay, do we have anyone here wishes to speak on an item on the [6:24] consent calendar today? Any public comment? [6:28] All right, seeing none, [6:30] I will move it up to the dais for a motion or any discussion. [6:36] Move approval of the consent calendar. [6:38] Second. [6:39] Okay, that has been moved and seconded. I'll call the roll. Commissioner Wysong? [6:44] Aye. [6:45] Commissioner Applegate? [6:46] Aye. [6:47] Commissioner Williams? [6:49] Aye. [6:50] And the vice chair votes aye. That passes 4-0. [6:54] Item 6. [6:55] Item number 6 is comments by elected officials and commissioner liaison [7:00] reports. Do we have any elected officials who would like to share today? [7:05] Seeing none, we'll move up to the dais starting with Commissioner Wysong. [7:11] Thank you, Madam, uh, Vice Chair, Acting Chair. [7:15] Um, last week was a, uh, busy week. [7:19] BPACG Water Quality Board meeting, urban renewal. [7:24] We had a MAC hail and farewell for greeting new command personnel into [7:31] the various bases and those that are leaving. [7:35] And then the Fountain Creek Watershed District board meeting on Friday. [7:43] This week there's the Arkansas River Basin Water Forum. [7:48] Fountain Creek Watershed District TAC meeting. [7:53] We've got a budget meeting for the county and also a financial committee [8:00] meeting for Fountain Creek Watershed District. [8:05] And I just always like, you know, [8:08] showing there's this manual that is the 2025 Popular Annual Financial [8:15] Report. [8:15] Thank you. [8:17] And it's, it's a very interesting short document that kind of gives an overview of [8:23] everything that's going on with the county. [8:27] And probably the best thing is it has a photo of a dollar bill that's been parsed, [8:33] and it shows basically where the money goes in the county. [8:38] And for all the property taxes that, you know, that we collect, [8:42] the county itself only gets to use about almost 10 cents out of every dollar. [8:49] So it's very interesting to see where that money, where it goes to other places, [8:55] whether it's school districts, library, the city, etc., etc. [8:59] So it's a neat little pamphlet and gives you a very good overview of county [9:05] financial operations. Thank you. [9:08] Commissioner Applegate? [9:11] Yes, and to reflect what Commissioner Wysong said, yeah, the MAC, [9:14] their Hail and Farewell Wednesday was a very good event, and you did well on that, [9:19] Commissioner Wysong, as well as the people that organized that for that event. [9:23] So Friday I was down in Pueblo all day for, first of all, [9:26] in the morning for the Front Range Passenger Rail, their vote. [9:29] So 13 or 14 to 1, they're going to send it to the ballot and it's going to be a [9:34] sales tax increase. So keep that in mind on your November ballot. [9:37] And I also, later on, I was at— later that evening, [9:40] I was at the state fair for the legislative barbecue. [9:43] So, I got to see some of our state legislators, [9:45] some of our conservatives from the area, and it was really good. [9:49] Good to interact and good to see some faces I hadn't seen in a while. [9:52] On Saturday, I actually ran in a 5K. [9:54] I did the Run for Hope with the Hope Is Alive nonprofit, [9:57] and I talk about this one quite a bit. [9:59] They're a very unique nonprofit because they focus on homelessness, [10:03] but they also focus on what's the root cause of homelessness, [10:06] and a lot of times that's addiction. [10:08] And so, before they put people up in some sort of housing, [10:11] set them up with some kind of like structure to help them continue to live [10:15] structure to help them continue to live their [10:16] lives. They focus on their drug abuse and their alcohol abuse and wean them off of [10:20] those horrible things and get them back to like sober living. [10:23] So it's really a good organization and I enjoyed— [10:26] didn't enjoy necessarily running the 5K, but I enjoy supporting the organization. [10:30] So that was all I had for last week. [10:32] Commissioner Williams. [10:37] Yes, I have a few meetings tomorrow, but other than that, no meetings to report. [10:42] Friday, I was at the legislative barbecue. [10:45] I have 2 issues that I wanted to point out. [10:49] That the vote to put the Front Range Passenger Rail on the ballot at 0.33 sales [10:54] Passenger Rail on the ballot at 0.33 sales tax, [10:55] the no vote was Commissioner Cory Applegate. We're very proud of him. [11:00] The reason being, and I think it was stated well in an article I read this [11:05] stated well in an article I read this morning, [11:06] You know, at a very time the Denver RTD is cutting back and the voters are very [11:11] upset about the level of services they have provided and failed to provide over [11:17] have provided and failed to provide over the [11:17] year, we're trying to sell a train to do essentially the same thing. [11:22] And this train is mostly designed for everybody to pay the tax to complete the [11:28] Denver to Boulder route of the RTD. [11:30] And so this is very much a shell game, very much a tax that I am against, [11:36] because so far there has not seemed to be a demand for people to ride the Denver [11:41] RTD. So I don't know exactly why there would be a demand for people to ride the [11:47] Front Range Passenger Rail. [11:49] The only success that I've seen in some of our transit operations truly is the bus [11:55] sting. which is very popular going from Woodman Road up to downtown Denver, [12:01] and especially during the business travel hours. And that's been extremely popular. [12:07] I have a family member who's ridden that many times. [12:10] So we're glad that there was at least one opposition vote against that. [12:15] I did hear of another person who wanted to vote no but was threatened and actually [12:21] left the meeting prior to her vote. So that she did not have to abstain or vote [12:27] that she did not have to abstain or vote yes. [12:27] So the other thing I wanted to comment about was the loss of data again by our [12:33] Secretary of State of Colorado. [12:35] It is one thing to place elected officials in positions of power and they can prove [12:41] their competence and then move on to another position. [12:45] It is another as There have been 5 separate times, at least in the past 8 [12:51] separate times, at least in the past 8 years, [12:51] where she has made major, major leak— leaks in her office. [12:55] She's blamed it on her employees, but let's state the fact, the buck stops with [13:01] let's state the fact, the buck stops with her. [13:01] It's a revolving door of leaking information, compromising our safety, [13:06] compromising our voter elections, and frankly, [13:10] compromising the safety of our own district attorney. [13:14] and other law enforcement officers in the region. [13:17] It has not been that long ago, maybe 10, [13:20] 12 years since we lost the life of the Colorado Department of Corrections [13:25] Colorado Department of Corrections Director [13:26] Tom Clemens when he opened his door after the doorbell rang and his information had [13:32] been leaked and he was shot to death right there in his front room. [13:37] So Some of these individuals, George Brockler, Michael Allen, [13:41] many of our police officers, really go after criminals in our community, [13:46] despite the fact that we live in Colorado where many in the Democrat Socialist Party [13:52] want to release all these criminals on the street. [13:56] And when we have a district attorney or a sheriff's deputy or a Colorado Springs [14:02] police officer who will stand up and go against those who have wronged us with [14:08] either very bad crimes or just even little crimes. [14:11] It is our utmost responsibility to protect those individuals in their safety. [14:17] I don't even know District Attorney Allen's address, [14:21] and his wife is a member of one of my social clubs. [14:24] We still send it to the same place that everyone else. [14:28] has to send it if they have access to the voter database, [14:32] which is like a UPS store or postal annex somewhere. [14:36] So it's just important to know, [14:38] I think even former district attorneys have this power, [14:42] that they're placed into a secure, confidential voting system. [14:47] At some point, the people they put in prison do get out, [14:51] and there could be some retribution on that person's mind. [14:55] And so this is a huge disappointment to me. It is a revolving door of glitches. [15:01] and getting rid of information, then blaming it on the staff, [15:05] or saying it was only 58 people, not 130,000 people who were leaked. [15:10] And so as we come up to this fall, [15:13] in one of my rare occasions of stating something political, [15:17] I do not think that this person is capable of being Attorney General. [15:22] I don't think she's capable of keeping the confidence of the cases she's filing. [15:28] I don't think she's capable of meeting deadlines. [15:31] Thank you. [15:32] And I don't think she's capable of running one of the largest law firms in the [15:35] state. Thank you. [15:36] Good morning. I will just note that Chair Geithner is taking some well-deserved time [15:43] off this week. She attempted to do so in July and got pulled in. [15:48] So we're going to try really hard to respect her time and give her that rest [15:53] respect her time and give her that rest that is [15:54] much deserved and needed, [15:56] and grateful for all the hard work she puts in on behalf of El Paso County. [16:02] So I will just share that, um, I really want to take a moment to thank our staff. [16:08] They put a lot of thought and time into organizing our land use meeting last [16:14] Thursday, and I'm so grateful for everyone. [16:17] Just, we received many comments after the fact at how well-run and efficient We [16:23] moved through hearing testimony from members of the public and just that [16:29] members of the public and just that respect for [16:29] everyone's time. And so I'm just amazed at how smoothly that proceeding went and [16:36] wanted to just publicly say thank you to all of our staff that worked really hard [16:42] all of our staff that worked really hard to [16:42] make sure that hearing moved— proceedings moved well. [16:46] And with that, we will move on to item 7. [16:49] Item number 7 is community service organization reports, and there are none. [16:55] organization reports, and there are none. Item 8. [16:56] Item number 8 is public comment on items not scheduled on the agenda. [17:01] The commissioners welcome communication in various forms. [17:05] However, the public comment period is not intended for dialogue, [17:10] and commissioners do not engage in conversation during this time. [17:15] Members of the public seeking responses to specific questions are encouraged to [17:21] submit inquiries through Citizen Connect. [17:24] And Madam Vice Chair, I'm aware of several people signing in to speak today. [17:30] Okay, if you wish to speak on an item not scheduled on the agenda, [17:35] we just ask that you would move forward closer to the podium and state your name [17:42] closer to the podium and state your name for [17:42] the record, and you will have 3 minutes. [17:47] Good morning. [17:47] And if you have— I'm sorry, if you have not signed in, we'll need you to do so. [17:50] Thank you. [17:51] Sorry. [17:53] Good morning. Lynette Persauda. [17:55] Commissioners, thank— there is a distinct difference between evidence and opinion. [18:00] Evidence can be reviewed, verified, and is admissible in court. [18:04] An opinion is a personal view that others may disagree with and may not be [18:09] verifiable. For example, CDOT has certified I-25 as a highway in Colorado. [18:13] They have evidentiary documentation proving the road's ability to carry [18:18] proving the road's ability to carry high-volume [18:18] traffic and tonnage. The following is opinion. [18:21] 4 out of the 5 El Paso County commissioners believe I-25's north and [18:25] commissioners believe I-25's north and southbound [18:26] lanes are a neighborhood. [18:27] For the record, I have not provided opinions regarding Beacon Light Road. [18:32] These commissioned engineering reports define Beacon Light Road existing as a [18:37] define Beacon Light Road existing as a rural [18:37] connector for its future. [18:39] How could this be when the dynamics of the 80,000 autos and heavies in the I-25 [18:44] neighborhood flow adjacently? [18:45] How could these reports ignore the adoption of the Pikes Peak Area Council's [18:50] adoption of the Pikes Peak Area Council's 2050 [18:50] long-range plan that would add over 50,000 residents to the Tri-Lakes area? [18:55] Today, I have given a copy of those evidentiary reports to the clerk on a [19:00] evidentiary reports to the clerk on a thumb [19:00] drive for your review. So I have some straightforward questions. [19:04] With the projected traffic and the known geotechnical conditions dating back to the [19:09] 1970s, what evidence or state waivers show that Beacon Lake can safely handle 20,000 [19:14] autos and vehicles weighing 60,000 to 80,000 pounds? [19:17] What evidence shows that the plans meet CRS 43-2-147, [19:21] requiring access decisions to consider traffic volume and highway function? [19:25] What evidence shows that plans meet CRS 43-1-1103, [19:29] which would highlight the environmental impacts for building a neighborhood [19:33] convenience store? What evidence shows that turn lanes will be provided on Beacon [19:38] Lake for the mobile home park? [19:40] What evidence shows that emergency lanes are planned for Beacon Lake Road when the [19:45] highway is blocked. Ms. [19:47] Williams' opinion of hoping Beacon Lake Road will not be used was frankly shocking [19:52] to hear at a land use meeting. [19:54] Hoping does not relieve you as commissioners of your duty of care. [19:58] We need evidentiary documentation that the road can safely handle the projected [20:03] volumes. Lack of accounting for the planned growth of an additional 50,000 [20:07] planned growth of an additional 50,000 residents [20:08] and our 80,000 daily I-25 neighbors without providing evidentiary [20:12] without providing evidentiary documentation [20:13] constitutes willful neglect. [20:14] Willful neglect is a conscious, [20:16] intentional failure or reckless indifference towards fulfilling a known [20:21] indifference towards fulfilling a known legal duty [20:21] or obligation, such as compliance with administrative requirements under CRS [20:26] 2422-108. Thank you. [20:27] Good morning, Commissioners. [20:29] We are still trying to comprehend what happened here with Buc-ee's. [20:35] 4 members of the board looked at approximately 120 fueling stations, [20:40] a 74,000-square-foot travel center, [20:43] and a development whose own filings describe its fueling component And somehow [20:49] describe its fueling component And somehow you [20:49] arrived at an extraordinary conclusion. It's not a gas station. Not a gas station. [20:55] Apparently, if you make the gas station big enough, add enough pumps, [21:01] sell enough food, t-shirts, stuffed beavers, and cheap merchandise, [21:06] it magically becomes a convenience store. That isn't land use analysis. [21:11] That's redefining reality to reach a predetermined result. [21:16] And then we heard about property rights. So let's talk about property rights. [21:22] Of course, the Buc-ee's property has property rights, [21:26] but property rights do not stop at the developer's property line. [21:31] The people who already live here have property rights too. [21:36] The homeowner whose property and quality of life are affected has property rights. [21:42] The family whose well depends upon groundwater has property rights. [21:47] The rancher and neighboring landowner has property rights, [21:52] and every citizen has the right to expect the county to honestly and consistently [21:58] apply its own land use regulations. [22:01] Owning property doesn't give someone an unlimited right to put absolutely anything [22:07] on it regardless of the consequences to everyone else. [22:11] If it did, we wouldn't need zoning, we wouldn't need a land development code, [22:17] we wouldn't need public hearings, and frankly, [22:21] we wouldn't need county commissioners. We could put a rubber stamp on everything. [22:27] Approved. Your responsibility isn't merely to protect an applicant's ability to [22:33] maximize the use of the property. [22:36] Your responsibility is protect the health, safety, and welfare of El Paso County— [22:42] our roads, our water, our evacuation capacity, our neighborhoods, etc. [22:47] Which brings me back to the 4 commissioners who somehow concluded not a [22:53] commissioners who somehow concluded not a gas station. [22:54] How pathetic. I brought something with me today for the 4 of you that did vote in [23:00] favor of this. 4 blank mental health commitment forms, [23:04] one for each commissioner who voted for this decision. Now they're blank. [23:10] I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not diagnosing anyone. [23:14] I'm certainly not filing anything with the court. This is political satire. [23:20] And in this day and age, we need this. [23:23] But when 4 elected officials can look at approximately 120 fueling stations and [23:29] approximately 120 fueling stations and look [23:29] at 74,000 square feet travel center, look at the applicant's own filings. [23:35] This is not a gas station. [23:37] We the people are entitled to question the soundness of the decision-making [23:43] occurring in this room. I have to question your level of intelligence. [23:48] Are the 4 of you of sound mind and body? This isn't funny. [23:53] When your decisions affect water traffic— [23:56] wrap up your comment. Your time has come to a conclusion. [23:59] Well, I'm not done yet. I got 3 more sentences. We the people are horrified. [24:04] The people of Colorado and the nation is as well. [24:08] After 4 El Paso County commissioners decided that 120 fueling stations is a gas [24:13] station, these applications right here are blank. [24:17] And whether they should remain that way I'll leave that diagnosis up to the [24:22] I'll leave that diagnosis up to the voters. [24:24] Thank you. [24:24] Commissioners, I come before you today sad and deeply disappointed in this board. [24:32] Last Thursday, this community brought you the code, the definitions, [24:38] and the applicant's own documents. You granted the appeal. [24:43] How did a project like this ever reach this point? [24:48] In 2017, Craig Dossey led planning when LDC 17003 was presented as a cleanup [24:55] measure. Its stated purpose ended and allow additional administrative authority. [25:02] He later, later led the 2021 master plan, [25:06] replacing 10 citizen-written small area plans with a countywide place type map. [25:13] He left the county in April 2022. Vertex was incorporated 4 months later. [25:20] Last Thursday, Vertex represented Buc-ee's before you. [25:25] That history shows the structure through which a project the applicant's own [25:32] engineers described to the Federal Highway Administration as a 120-fueling-position [25:40] Buc-ee's gas station could reach you as an administrative determination. [25:46] No rezoning, no planning commission. [25:49] Commissioner Nelson said, [25:52] just because we couldn't conceptualize that doesn't mean that we shouldn't allow [25:59] that doesn't mean that we shouldn't allow it [25:59] to exist today. Chair Geithner said government does not exist to control and [26:06] government does not exist to control and plan [26:07] everything. We are a free nation. We are a free economy. [26:12] Nobody at those microphones asked you to control anything. [26:17] They read you your own definition and asked you to apply it. So what comes next? [26:25] The master plan is 5 years old. Will residents have a role in its review? [26:31] Yesterday, Modules 1 and 2 of the code rewrite went out as a 513-page draft, [26:38] with the procedures module still to come. [26:42] How are residents supposed to find what changed? [26:46] Will the rewrite correct Thursday's results or write it permanently into the [26:53] results or write it permanently into the code? [26:54] The applicant's project— [26:56] the applicant projects 22,150 daily trips onto County Line Road, [27:02] more than 93% assigned to Interstate 25. I said this in April, and it's truer today. [27:10] A Buc-ee's at this location and the infrastructure required to sustain it [27:16] infrastructure required to sustain it would tear [27:17] to shreds the fabric of a community. [27:21] It would permanently erase the corridor that links neighborhoods across the [27:28] Tri-Lakes region, disrupting a rhythm of daily life that has existed here for [27:35] generations, and it would turn our road home into just another entry ramp to [27:42] commercial development. [27:44] Is there anyone else that wishes to speak on an item not scheduled on the [27:50] agenda today? Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to agenda item number 9. [27:56] Item number 9 is the called-up consent calendar, [28:01] and there are no items called up today. [28:04] Number 10. [28:06] Item number 10 is department and committee reports, non-action items. [28:11] 10A, 2027 Public Health preliminary balance budget and statutory presentation [28:16] balance budget and statutory presentation of the [28:16] 2027 preliminary balance budget. [28:19] Deanne Ryberg, Executive Director, Department of Public Health. [28:23] Good morning and welcome. Look forward to hearing this presentation. [28:28] Whenever you're ready, you may begin. [28:30] Wonderful, thank you. Good morning, Commissioners. Deanne Ryberg. [28:35] I serve as the Executive Director of El Paso County Public Health, [28:40] and I am here this morning to, uh, [28:43] present our 2027 preliminary balanced budget information. [28:47] Um, coming to you this morning, [28:50] I would like to spend just a little bit of time providing some context regarding our [28:56] agency, our governance efforts that we've made in recent years to examine our [29:02] financial stewardship, look at risks for our organization and our funding, [29:08] as well as reviewing revenues, expenditures, [29:11] and particularly some strategic investments that we want to make this year [29:17] investments that we want to make this year in the [29:17] 2027 budget that will support our organization moving forward. [29:22] Um, I wanted to just reflect a little bit. [29:25] Last year when I came before the Board of County Commissioners regarding our budget, [29:31] it was a very different circumstance. [29:34] We had experienced significant funding disruptions. [29:38] We were also transitioning from funding associated with a global pandemic and an [29:44] influx of funding into the public health system. [29:48] And last year our theme was around mitigating some of those changes, [29:53] looking at our operations, [29:55] and finding ways to position the organization to be more sustainable into [30:01] organization to be more sustainable into the [30:01] future. Today, I'm excited to share that we are moving past that risk mitigation [30:07] stage and looking ahead into how we can position our organization not just for the [30:13] work that we have today, [30:15] but what we will need for public health in the future as well. [30:20] Before we go into the budget, [30:22] I'd just like to reflect a moment on the governance of El Paso County Public [30:28] governance of El Paso County Public Health. [30:29] We are governed by our Board of Health, [30:31] appointed by you as the Board of County Commissioners. [30:36] We have a 9-member board currently that has a role in our priorities, our policy, [30:42] and approval of our budget. [30:44] Our current board members include President Hunter Barnett, Dr. Deborah [30:49] President Hunter Barnett, Dr. Deborah Chan, Dr. [30:50] Gregory Collins, Todd Dixon as the mayor of Green Mountain Falls. [30:55] And we are very pleased to have both the chair and vice chair serve as board [31:01] liaisons to our Board of Health, and also our vice president, Courtney Salt, [31:07] who I appreciate is here with us today as well. [31:10] This provides you with an overview of our organization and You can see reflected in [31:17] this organizational chart the breadth of services that we provide at El Paso County [31:23] Public Health. Environmental Health serves as our regulatory division that has a [31:29] role in inspecting and licensing retail food establishments, [31:34] body art establishments, as well as onsite wastewater treatment systems. [31:39] We also have a Clinical Services Division. [31:42] That division provides direct services to residents of El Paso County through [31:48] immunizations, chronic disease, and reproductive health clinical services, [31:54] as well as our Nurse-Family Partnership Program that supports families and [32:00] Program that supports families and children. [32:00] We have our Disease Prevention and Response Division. [32:04] This division serves as our Emergency Services Function 8 group that has [32:10] responsibilities as responders in our community for communicable disease [32:15] community for communicable disease outbreak [32:16] response, and other hazard response. [32:19] And that includes our communicable disease program, [32:23] emergency preparedness and response, as well as a public health laboratory. [32:28] We also have a Community Health Promotion Division. [32:32] This division works on health education and health promotion activities in the [32:38] community. They also work on chronic disease, health education, [32:43] as well as working very closely with children and families throughout El Paso [32:49] County, providing nutritional services through our Women, Infants, [32:54] and Children nutritional program. [32:56] And then we have our Strategy, Data, and Communications Division, [33:01] and that includes work that we do around planning, communications, and data, [33:07] as well as our vital records and operations team. [33:11] So as you can see from this chart, we do a wide variety of work. [33:16] Some of it is direct service, Some of it is supportive education, [33:21] and some of it is regulatory as well. [33:24] As your local public health agency, [33:26] we have specific statutory responsibilities that we are responsible [33:32] responsibilities that we are responsible for. [33:32] The first one that you'll see before you is our responsibility to bring our budget [33:38] to you by September 1st. [33:40] So I thank you for the opportunity to be here today to share this information with [33:46] you. We also, in 2008, Colorado passed the Public Health Act, [33:51] and that established the core public health services that each county and [33:56] health services that each county and district [33:57] public health agency must provide or ensure. [34:00] And additionally, state regulation established 7 foundational capabilities [34:06] established 7 foundational capabilities and 5 [34:06] foundational services that our agency is responsible for. [34:11] Related to our required services, [34:13] we have 5 areas that we are required to provide in El Paso County. [34:18] Those include communicable disease prevention, investigation, and control, [34:24] chronic disease injury prevention and behavioral health promotion, [34:29] environmental health access and linkage to care, and maternal, adolescent, [34:35] and family health. Additionally, [34:37] we are responsible for ensuring that we have cross-cutting capacities and [34:43] have cross-cutting capacities and expertise [34:44] within our department to address areas that support the delivery of our services. [34:50] This includes assessment and planning, communication functions, [34:55] organizational competencies, and emergency preparedness, among others. [35:00] And before we go into the budget, [35:02] I'd like to spend just a moment to reflect on what makes our funding dynamic and [35:09] variable. As a public health agency, [35:11] about 50% of the funding we receive is tied to specific programmatic grants that [35:17] tied to specific programmatic grants that can [35:18] only be utilized for those specific activities and are restricted funds. [35:23] Also impacting our funding is the fact that many of the fees that we charge for [35:29] services, whether that's licensing permits, birth certificates, [35:34] some of our clinical services, [35:36] those fees are not set or the reimbursement is not set at our level. [35:41] So that is also a dynamic part of our budget that we work with is calculating [35:47] budget that we work with is calculating fees [35:48] and addressing those that we control locally and working within fee structures [35:54] locally and working within fee structures that [35:54] we do not control locally. [35:56] In public health, we also have grants from federal and state partners as well. [36:02] So we work across multiple fiscal years. [36:05] So our budget is a continuous evaluation cycle as those different funding years [36:11] impact our budget as we move through the year. [36:15] Also, with significant grant funding, there's variable— [36:19] variability in how that funding comes to us. [36:22] Some of it may be one-time in initiative funding. [36:26] Some of it is renewable and some is ongoing. [36:29] Also within our statutory requirements, [36:32] we have several core governmental responsibilities that we are required to [36:38] responsibilities that we are required to provide [36:38] by statute. Many of those do not come with a dedicated funding stream. [36:44] So this is why much of our flexible funding is very important to us because it [36:50] funding is very important to us because it helps [36:50] us weave together our various funding sources to make sure that we can fund [36:56] sources to make sure that we can fund those [36:56] core required statutory responsibilities while also having flexibility in [37:02] while also having flexibility in mobilizing [37:03] our funding to support how our agency brings this work together. [37:07] And the realities of that dynamic funding is also why we have spent so much time in [37:14] the past year strengthening how we approach financial stewardship, [37:19] and examining the work that our teams undertake. [37:23] We've undertaken the budget with the perspective that it should not just [37:28] perspective that it should not just reflect [37:29] what we have always done. [37:31] It should reflect focus, discipline, [37:33] and structure necessary to position us for the future. [37:37] We're balancing today's operational needs with sustainability and considering our [37:44] financial landscape that includes funding variability. [37:48] It includes being able to recruit and retain the talent contained in our [37:53] retain the talent contained in our workforce [37:54] and also looking for opportunities to examine our operation and look for areas [38:00] examine our operation and look for areas of [38:00] efficiency. And also recognizing that the budget decisions that we make create both [38:06] opportunities as well as obligations that can extend well past the single fiscal [38:13] year. So throughout this year, [38:15] we have been evaluating our approach and evaluating those decisions. [38:20] And these principles have helped move us past a budget process that focuses on [38:26] developing an annual budget really into a continuous management process. [38:31] And over the last year and a half, [38:34] financial stewardship has been at the center of the work we've been undertaking. [38:40] That includes planning. [38:42] And making intentional decisions before resources are allocated, [38:47] examining our operations and building reliable systems that support the work of [38:53] reliable systems that support the work of the [38:53] organization, looking at accountability and using our public resources [38:58] and using our public resources responsibly, [38:59] reviewing programs, positions, [39:02] and structure to ensure resources remain aligned with our mission and priorities, [39:08] and looking at sustainability and making decisions that strengthen our organization [39:14] not just for the immediate, but for the future as well. [39:18] Examples of this work include we have a new opportunity to address chronic disease [39:25] via a grant from the state. [39:27] And as we have accepted that grant, [39:29] we are working diligently to embed this work into our existing structure versus [39:36] creating an additional siloed program as a way that we can weave chronic disease [39:42] across our organizational structure. [39:44] We're also investing in new technology that makes our work more efficient, [39:50] more transparent, and improves our ability to monitor that work. [39:55] All of this work is being undertaken with a common objective: [40:00] to strengthen our ability to fulfill our mission in an increasingly complex and [40:06] changing environment. [40:07] And also, we discuss trying to improve the resiliency of our organization. [40:13] And being resilient doesn't mean that we can mitigate every unknown or every risk [40:19] and uncertainty. We can't. [40:21] But what we are trying to do is build our capacity to navigate it. [40:26] And that is the mindset that we have brought to today's budget. [40:31] So moving into our budget, [40:33] wanted to provide you with a historical perspective on what our funding has looked [40:39] like in recent years, [40:41] because certainly there has been quite a bit of change over the years, [40:46] especially as we spent multiple years in pandemic response with an influx of funds [40:52] related to COVID-19. [40:54] As we have moved out of that response, some of those pandemic-era funds have [41:00] some of those pandemic-era funds have sunset, [41:00] and our budget continues to normalize. [41:03] Currently, for our 2027 preliminary balanced budget, [41:07] we are anticipating revenues and expenditures of $26.4 million. [41:12] I will acknowledge, however, those are preliminary figures. [41:17] We still will move through our federal contract cycle as well as determinations [41:23] regarding the county compensation plan that will continue to refine those [41:28] that will continue to refine those numbers. [41:29] Also, over time, we have had significant variability in our staffing in public [41:35] health. Certainly, we grew rapidly during the pandemic response and have had to look [41:41] at our structure closely to align the organization with the financial realities [41:47] organization with the financial realities of [41:47] our current status. Particularly starting in 2025, [41:51] we have been working diligently to make sure the organization is poised with more [41:57] sustainability. Ability to match financial resources. [42:01] You will note that we have had a decrease in staffing. [42:06] And through that process, [42:08] we have prioritized our statutory and core responsibilities, [42:12] looked at our structure to remove programmatic silos, [42:16] reassessed how work is allocated, [42:19] and reviewed our operating expenses across the agency. [42:23] As much as possible, [42:24] we have worked to manage this transition through Restructure and vacancies and [42:30] attrition while redesigning the organization to preserve essential [42:35] organization to preserve essential services, [42:36] even though we are working with a smaller workforce. [42:40] And this graph gives you a preliminary overview of our division and budgets [42:46] overview of our division and budgets moving [42:46] forward into 2027. I will note that the administrative division is our largest [42:52] division with 27% of our budget allocated to administration. [42:57] And I would just like to add that that should not be interpreted as [43:02] should not be interpreted as administrative [43:03] staff and overhead. That administrative division really serves as our agency-wide [43:09] funding and cost center. [43:11] Several cross-department revenue sources are budgeted into administration. [43:17] That includes state LPHA funding we receive, [43:20] federal public health infrastructure funding, [43:23] as well as support from El Paso County. [43:26] It also includes shared costs that support the entire agency. [43:31] That includes our costs for financial services, technology, rents, [43:36] and common area maintenance, among others. [43:39] Moving through, This diagram, the next division that you see there is our [43:45] division that you see there is our Strategy, [43:46] Data, and Communications team. This team supports many of our cross-agency efforts. [43:52] So that's where we have our communications team, our operations team, our— [43:58] and as well as our data team. [44:00] Clinical Services and Community Health Promotion both comprise 22% of our budget. [44:06] providing a variety of direct services to the community. [44:10] Our environmental health team that does our regulatory work in the community [44:16] comprises approximately 14% of our planned budget. [44:20] And our disease response and disease prevention and response team reflects [44:26] approximately 9% of our overall budget. [44:29] I'd also like to share a bit about how we are funded as a local public health [44:35] agency. We receive a mix of funding from different governmental sources. [44:40] Each of our state, federal, and local levels of government contribute to our [44:46] levels of government contribute to our budget, [44:46] with federal having the highest portion at 29%, El Paso County at 28%, [44:52] and state at 25%. And we collect license fees and permits for services we provide [44:58] fees and permits for services we provide in [44:58] the amount of approximately 17% of our revenues. [45:02] We have benchmarked this funding mix with information available to us from national [45:08] surveys, and this reflects a very common funding pattern for local public health [45:14] agencies, with the vast majority of funding coming from various levels of [45:20] governmental funding sources and Our fee capture may be just slightly higher than [45:26] the most recent national averages that place that at approximately 10%. [45:31] But there is considerable variation across the nation in how local public health [45:38] agencies are structured and their ability to bill for some of the services. [45:43] But that gives you a sense of how we are funded and the various funding sources [45:49] funded and the various funding sources that [45:50] contribute to our budget. [45:52] So with those funding sources and those revenues, where, [45:56] where do we expend those revenues? [45:58] As a service delivery organization that provides direct services to the community, [46:05] the vast majority of our funding goes to support the personnel and our employees at [46:11] local public health. [46:13] Our operating is a much smaller percentage of our overall budget at 20%. [46:18] And we do have a small remodel and capital project planned for our offices in 2027. [46:25] And this again, we have benchmarked ourselves with other large local public [46:30] ourselves with other large local public health [46:31] agencies in the Front Range in Colorado. [46:34] And this funding mix with approximately 80% of our funding going to personnel [46:40] remains consistent with what we see with other local public health agencies of our [46:46] size. And within our operating, [46:48] we are looking forward to opportunities to invest in the future of our agency and [46:54] our ability to deliver efficient and effective services to El Paso County [47:00] effective services to El Paso County residents [47:01] through some strategic investments that we have planned in the 2027 budget. [47:07] These are prioritized for us because they help us maintain service quality. [47:12] They help us to operate effectively within the workforce constraints that we have, [47:19] and they reflect process improvement and service delivery assessments that will [47:25] service delivery assessments that will help [47:25] us streamline our work and have more modern tools and systems to assist with [47:31] modern tools and systems to assist with that. [47:31] Examples of this, we are working to implement a grant management system For [47:37] implement a grant management system For us, [47:37] with more than 50% of our funding coming from grants, [47:41] managing that is very important to us. [47:44] The impact of remaining in compliance with grant standards and expectations is very [47:50] important for us to be able to seek future funding opportunities. [47:55] And to date, we have had a very decentralized system. [47:59] A modern grant management system helps us put that information into a consolidated [48:06] place. It helps us mitigate against institutional knowledge loss when [48:11] institutional knowledge loss when positions [48:12] change and provides us with opportunities for enhanced grant seeking as well as [48:18] dashboarding our, our progress with our existing grants. [48:22] We are also looking to invest in a new electronic health record. [48:27] We do provide direct clinical services, [48:30] and part of that is to have a robust electronic health record that helps us [48:36] electronic health record that helps us mitigate [48:36] any risks, helps us have modern information available to us, [48:41] and integrates well within our services and our pharmacy services as well. [48:46] So, that is also something that we've identified that will help us do our work [48:52] identified that will help us do our work more [48:53] efficiently and effectively. [48:55] One of the other strategic investments that we're excited about is to use our [49:01] federal public health infrastructure grant to do a service delivery assessment with [49:07] an external contractor to look at our WIC service delivery model. [49:12] WIC is a program that provides supplemental nutrition to families in our [49:18] supplemental nutrition to families in our community. [49:18] And although demand for those services continue to increase, [49:23] funding has remained flat over multiple years. [49:26] So this is a great opportunity for us to look at what we can do to work more [49:32] effectively within the resources that we have. [49:36] We are also working on environmental health. [49:39] We know that our community wants better information about status of permits and [49:45] better communication regarding that. [49:48] So we will be undertaking a process mapping project to help us identify areas [49:54] mapping project to help us identify areas where [49:54] we can improve, as well as looking at opportunities to make that information [50:00] opportunities to make that information more [50:00] visible and accessible to the public. [50:03] And finally, we are working on a community health assessment data project. [50:09] We are required to conduct a community health assessment for our county, [50:14] and that project will be undertaken with additional support to give us better data [50:21] regarding our, our community so that we can have a more robust process for that. [50:27] And then moving to El Paso County support over time, [50:31] you will see here that El Paso County support to local public health has [50:36] support to local public health has increased [50:37] over time. Increases in 2021 and 2022 were part of a planned increase that was [50:43] approved by the Board of County Commissioners as a multi-year investment [50:48] Commissioners as a multi-year investment into local [50:49] public health. [50:50] Thank you. [50:52] In 2023, we were part of a compensation study with the county and made some [50:57] adjustments in 2023. [50:59] And as we have moved forward, [51:01] I appreciate that we have had consistent support from El Paso County for [51:07] support from El Paso County for allocations [51:08] for compensation plan as we have moved through those years. [51:12] In 2027, we are planning for, again, [51:15] to be part of the county's compensation plan where a portion will be allocated to [51:21] public health. And right now we are estimating that at $250,000. [51:26] That does not cover all of the costs of our increased compensation as we also [51:32] receive grant funding, but does help offset those increases over time. [51:38] And the ability to be part of the county's compensation plan has been very impactful [51:44] for our agency as it has helped us to recruit and retain talent within our [51:50] recruit and retain talent within our public [51:50] health team. Other areas where county support to our budget is very important to [51:57] support to our budget is very important to us [51:57] is that given our reliance on grant funding, [52:00] We also have considerable costs associated with running the organization that are [52:06] not funded through those grants in their entirety. [52:10] Examples of this include investments in our rent, our common area maintenance, [52:16] county support for functions that we rely on as a team that include DST, [52:22] human resources, benefits, and finance, [52:25] as well as supporting elements of our agency through communications and data [52:31] analytics that support our programs as a whole. [52:35] And we are very grateful for the support that we get through consolidated county [52:41] services with HR and IT as well as others, [52:44] because it would be much more challenging if we were not able to be part of those [52:50] consolidated services with the county. [52:53] So that is a wonderful way that we can invest flexible dollars into quality [52:59] invest flexible dollars into quality services [53:00] for the community. We also have statutory requirements in environmental health, [53:06] communicable disease, [53:07] and community health improvement plan that we are required to deliver for the [53:13] community. They do not come with dedicated funding streams that fully cover the [53:20] costs of those requirements. [53:22] So flexible funding from El Paso County also helps us Deliver those services. [53:28] An example of that is our retail food program within our environmental health [53:34] program within our environmental health team. [53:34] Retail food is a delegated program to us from the state, [53:38] and the fees for that service are set at the state level, [53:43] and those are revisited every three years by the state legislature. [53:48] At last year, our cost recovery for environmental health was under fifty [53:54] environmental health was under fifty percent. [53:54] It was a About 48%. The state legislature passed a 3-year plan to increase those [54:00] fees, and at the end of those 3 years, [54:03] we anticipate our cost recovery will be closer to 75%, [54:08] which is a significant improvement for our budget. [54:11] But it also means that we do need flexible funding to make that team whole. [54:17] And each year, that team does more than 4,000 regulatory inspections. [54:23] in our community related to delivering that service. [54:27] Similarly, communicable disease is a very active program investigating more than [54:33] 2,000 different disease reports each year and responding to hundreds of outbreaks. [54:39] I believe last year approximately 300 outbreaks that they responded to as a [54:45] outbreaks that they responded to as a team. [54:45] Another area where we don't have a dedicated funding stream and flexible [54:51] dedicated funding stream and flexible funding [54:52] helps to make that possible. [54:54] And I would like to close by thanking our team at Public Health. [54:59] We have done a tremendous amount of work over the last year to examine our [55:04] programming, how we are doing our work, why we are doing it, and making [55:10] why we are doing it, and making adjustments. [55:11] And that has positioned us well to be in a more sustainable place where we can look [55:17] forward to continuing to improve and not just be mitigating immediate risks and [55:23] looking at what our immediate needs are. [55:27] And I'm also thankful for the support of the Board of County Commissioners as we [55:33] have gone through this process and we continue to work to make a more [55:38] continue to work to make a more sustainable [55:39] public health agency for El Paso County. So thank you. [55:43] Thank you. I will bring it up here for any questions or [55:48] comments from commissioners. Uh, Commissioner Wysong. [55:53] Thank you so much, Deanne. Um, appreciate, um, coming and talking to us. [55:59] I've got a, a number of questions, but I won't ask them all to allow the, [56:06] the rest of the board to ask. [56:08] I think one of the big questions, [56:11] because you can see the budget and a lot of others What are the big lessons [56:18] learned from COVID that prepares you for the next, you know, [56:23] some kind of a major outbreak? [56:26] Thank you. So, after every response, we do an after-action, [56:31] and there are certainly lessons learned from the COVID pandemic. [56:36] One of the biggest challenges is when there is that much disruption, [56:41] there is that much disruption, communication. [56:42] There are always ways that we can improve how we communicate the information that we [56:49] share and the coordination. [56:51] I think some things that stand out to me from that response were the times that we [56:57] came before this board to share information, [57:01] work that we did to visualize data for the community, [57:05] and to share information with sector partners. [57:08] If we were to encounter a similar situation again in the future, [57:14] I think some of those successes would certainly carry forward, [57:18] as well as strengthening some of the work that we do with community members. [57:24] It can be very challenging when there is that much disruption, [57:29] and having a flexible team that can mobilize quickly is part of how we can [57:35] mobilize quickly is part of how we can better [57:36] serve the community. So we have taken some of those lessons learned. [57:41] We have done extensive incident command training with our team. [57:46] We have identified depth in our team and trained up multiple team members so that [57:52] trained up multiple team members so that we [57:52] have more depth of bench when those types of things happen. [57:57] Because one of our challenges as a responding agency is that public health [58:03] responding agency is that public health responses [58:04] tend to be long. They're not over quickly. [58:07] They tend to go through multiple adjustments over a long period of time. [58:13] It burned out a lot of our staff. [58:15] And I think we are taking those lessons in how we train, how we plan, [58:21] and anticipate some of those challenges. [58:24] Is that built into your kind of your strategic investments? Moving forward? [58:32] Yeah, there are aspects of that that are. [58:35] So I think reflected in that, grant management systems that are more modern, [58:40] efficient, and can allow us to track our progress better. [58:44] Because as that influx of funding came into public health, [58:48] managing that sudden change was quite challenging. [58:52] So a modern grant management system can help us in those situations. [58:57] We have also invested in or hope to invest into a better electronic health record [59:03] that increases the ability of our team to work flexibly when we are responding to [59:08] situations, have better information available to them, [59:12] and increase the efficiency of our clinical care systems. [59:16] We also have a small but very talented emergency preparedness team that in this [59:22] emergency preparedness team that in this year [59:22] they worked with us on an administrative exercise that brought in partners from [59:28] across the county, because one of the things that we also learned and would like [59:34] things that we also learned and would like to [59:34] improve on is our ability to work with contracts. [59:37] So when we need to expand our work quickly, to have faster contract [59:42] quickly, to have faster contract processes, [59:43] be able to mobilize resources more quickly. [59:46] And that administrative exercise was part of implementing lessons learned from the [59:52] pandemic into our forward-looking operations. [59:57] Very good. Anyone else before I ask another one? [1:00:03] Your last slide, or your bar slide here on support over time. [1:00:10] Yes, especially from 2020 to '27, you know, pretty large chunk. [1:00:17] I believe you said that the '21 and '22 were budget increases [1:00:24] approved by the BOCC. [1:00:27] Today's requested the $7.25 million approximately from the [1:00:34] county. How much is that due to the state statute unfunded [1:00:41] mandates? [1:00:42] So the specific amount that we resulted in related to this Is, um, [1:00:47] is based on compensation increases. [1:00:50] So in order to maintain our staffing, the, um, [1:00:54] complexity of how much of that funding goes to these unfunded mandates, um, [1:01:00] is a little more challenging to answer directly because it's a mix of flexible [1:01:07] funding that we receive from the county, that we receive from the state. Okay. [1:01:14] State as well that helps make that communicable disease program whole or to [1:01:20] communicable disease program whole or to make the [1:01:21] environmental health team whole. [1:01:24] So I think it's critical for our ability to deliver those services. [1:01:29] And about half of what we receive from the county goes directly into some of those [1:01:36] consolidated services that I mentioned that include our HR support, [1:01:42] our legal support, DST, and rent as well. [1:01:45] So it makes possible, uh, the work that we do across a variety of areas. [1:01:52] Okay. [1:01:57] Um, your fees— you were saying that for the [1:02:02] environmental, you're only getting about 50% [1:02:07] recovery? [1:02:08] Yes. So, uh, that is, uh, the The retail food program specifically, [1:02:13] those fees are set by the state legislature. [1:02:16] The intent is that those fees are reviewed every 3 years. [1:02:21] That did not occur during the COVID years. [1:02:24] And as a result, those fees had been unaddressed for a prolonged period of [1:02:29] unaddressed for a prolonged period of time. [1:02:29] So by the time that came up for legislative action, [1:02:33] those fees were quite out of date. [1:02:36] And our cost recovery on those fees was at about 48%, I believe. [1:02:40] 48%. [1:02:41] It was just under 50%. [1:02:43] And then the plan is a 3-year stepwise increase that will [1:02:48] take us closer to 75% cost recovery. [1:02:51] Okay, thank you. [1:02:53] Commissioner Williams. [1:02:56] Yes. So first, I want to thank your staff that's here as well and all of the hard [1:03:02] work in your office. [1:03:03] I always start with a compliment of something that happened before I was [1:03:08] something that happened before I was elected in [1:03:09] 2018, and that was your suicide prevention group for, for juveniles. [1:03:14] About a year before, maybe 2 years before I was elected commissioner, [1:03:18] we'd lost 3 teenagers in the span of 2 months at Discovery Canyon High School. [1:03:24] And then, then County Health Director Susan Whelan pulled together a great group [1:03:30] Susan Whelan pulled together a great group of [1:03:30] people to address those issues. And so I really appreciate that that happened. [1:03:35] I can't take any credit for it, but just a time when you have to pull together. [1:03:41] to help individuals in the public health arena. [1:03:44] Um, I know that unusually when you receive grants, if I'm right, [1:03:49] you are not subject to taper on those because I think we approved voter-approved [1:03:54] initiative way back in 2002, and that's an unusual thing in El Paso County. [1:04:00] But I appreciate your efforts to become more efficient and cost-effective. [1:04:05] Uh, that's one of our Between being data-driven and transparent at El Paso [1:04:10] data-driven and transparent at El Paso County, [1:04:10] that's one of our strategic values is that we try to be efficient and [1:04:15] cost-effective. I know that also too, with the WIC service delivery assessment, [1:04:21] there's a lot of pressure to open up offices in other areas of the county. [1:04:26] And I hope— I'm hoping we can do without having to open up an extra office and [1:04:32] adding the extra overhead that goes with that. [1:04:35] Thank you. [1:04:35] And so, um, but I just wanted to thank you all for everything, [1:04:39] especially you did during COVID and for the direction of this department. [1:04:43] Um, as you know, I'm leaving El Paso County at the end of the year, [1:04:47] so it's been a pleasure working with you for these past 8 years. [1:04:51] And, um, I, I look forward to watching the Health Department continue to do great [1:04:56] things in future years. Thank you. [1:04:58] Thank you. [1:05:05] Okay, seeing no further comments from my colleagues, I'll just add, Deanne, [1:05:10] how long have you been in this position? [1:05:13] And then tell us how long you were an interim. [1:05:16] I started as interim in March of '25, [1:05:20] and I have been executive director since [1:05:25] April. [1:05:27] So I just want to point out that we have fairly new leadership in this department, [1:05:33] and you are doing phenomenal work here, [1:05:36] and we're so grateful for the direction that you have turned this organization. [1:05:42] And when I think about the challenges of coming off of the COVID cliff, [1:05:47] where many businesses, [1:05:49] organizations put those COVID relief dollars towards ongoing expenses, [1:05:54] and that was something you had to deal with in reducing the number of staffing to [1:06:00] come back to what was a sustainable budget without those COVID relief dollars. [1:06:06] And you have been very strategic and intentional in doing that hard work of how [1:06:12] intentional in doing that hard work of how do [1:06:12] we bring this organization back to sustainability. [1:06:16] So just really grateful Um, you have stepped up in an incredible way, [1:06:21] and I'm thankful for your finance team. [1:06:24] And, um, just for the commissioner's awareness, [1:06:27] there is conversations happening with El Paso County Finance. [1:06:32] And so today isn't necessarily us voting to approve the additional funding that was [1:06:38] mentioned earlier of $250,000, [1:06:41] but just meeting that statutory requirement of coming and presenting [1:06:46] requirement of coming and presenting before the [1:06:46] board, which previously did not happen in under prior leadership. [1:06:51] So this is now the second time that this presentation has occurred, [1:06:56] even though it was required by statute. [1:06:59] So again, grateful for your leadership in ensuring we're meeting our requirements. [1:07:05] And I'll just note also that when it comes to the state deciding that certain fees [1:07:12] should be allocated and That at a Board of Health level, [1:07:16] we are always wanting to look at the balance of recovering costs of work, [1:07:21] but also recognizing there are some core functions that government public health is [1:07:28] serving our community, and that those tax dollars should also be helping to cover. [1:07:34] And so we want to balance what makes sense for our citizens because When we do [1:07:40] charge fees, that then gets passed on to the businesses, [1:07:44] that then gets passed on to the consumers. [1:07:47] And so it's not something we take lightly that when we do increase fees, [1:07:52] even if it is required by the state, [1:07:55] just ensuring we're being intentional with the tax dollars to help offer the [1:08:01] services that our community needs that are core to public health function. [1:08:06] So Really grateful for your presentation this morning and, um, [1:08:11] look forward to approving this in the future when we approve the overall budget [1:08:17] future when we approve the overall budget for [1:08:17] El Paso County. Any additional comments for us? [1:08:21] Thank you, appreciate it. [1:08:24] Okay, we will move on then to item 11. [1:08:28] Item number 11 is the addendum, [1:08:32] and there are no addendums today. [1:08:37] Item 12. [1:08:37] Item 12 is the executive session, and there is no request for executive session. [1:08:42] Okay, so with that, we have come to the conclusion of this agenda, [1:08:46] and we will adjourn the meeting.