1 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:09,280 We all face Washington DC. 2 00:00:19,470 --> 00:00:21,170 We're looking for a flag. 3 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:21,890 Oh, 4 00:00:26,270 --> 00:00:28,190 I'm going downstairs to get a flag. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,720 There's one on the pole out front. 6 00:00:35,550 --> 00:00:36,930 We only pull one on the screen. 7 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:40,710 That's what I was going to ask since we don't have a flag in the room that appears. 8 00:00:49,490 --> 00:00:52,830 That's going on. We'll call everybody to order the meeting to order. 9 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:56,430 I'll come everybody. Good to see you. Thank you for being here. 10 00:00:58,010 --> 00:01:01,890 We're obviously in a new room today and a pretty good room. 11 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:02,890 I kind of like this one. 12 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:10,430 I guess if we had a big turnout, we would be a little harder, but this is not a big turnout 13 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:10,970 right now. 14 00:01:11,470 --> 00:01:12,670 So, very comfortable screens. 15 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:23,450 We will be in, yes, $475, American flag there, a stand that is at $15, 25 feet, 25 feet. 16 00:01:38,570 --> 00:01:54,290 Thank you everybody. Okay, we'll begin and jump into our consent calendar. Today 25119 eight minutes from the meeting on June the 6th our last meeting together as everybody had a chance to review and is their motion. 17 00:01:54,290 --> 00:01:58,030 to any changes need at this time. 18 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,040 I did review it. 19 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:01,940 Good. 20 00:02:03,580 --> 00:02:05,280 Moving accepted as presented. 21 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:06,260 Excellent. 22 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,460 I want to do the four maladies. 23 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:09,620 You're about a second for that. 24 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:10,000 Second. 25 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Thank you, Keen. 26 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:15,340 And I don't think we have any study online, but I still need to ask. 27 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:15,940 I can't remember. 28 00:02:16,740 --> 00:02:17,080 No, right. 29 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:19,060 No public comments. 30 00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:20,700 Any public comment throughs in the room. 31 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:22,780 So I won't be able to do much with that. 32 00:02:22,940 --> 00:02:24,960 And this meeting was somebody turns up. 33 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Okay, all in favor of passing the accepting the minutes from June 6th. 34 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:32,080 All right. 35 00:02:32,180 --> 00:02:32,780 Any news? 36 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,380 It's moving on then. 37 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:41,820 We have our next item, 25, 12, 29. 38 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Our report from Director of Library Services. 39 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:47,500 Price. 40 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:48,180 Price level. 41 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Library director. 42 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,620 Just a few things to share. 43 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:53,140 First, then we're on county fair. 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,100 It was very successful. 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,900 It's the museum has that been opened during the fair. 46 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:01,020 for at least a few years. 47 00:03:01,180 --> 00:03:04,160 We had about 1,500 people come through. 48 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:09,600 And there's also collected a good amount of data 49 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 and staff and volunteers have some ideas of how 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,980 to make the operation even smoother and advertised 51 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:19,760 further during the fair event. 52 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:20,840 But it was very successful. 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,420 Thank you to staff and volunteers. 54 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:27,120 I even went through not trying to be in the skies, 55 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:28,300 but with my kiddos. 56 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:38,500 And Jill greeted us and did a great job of demonstrating the piano and copy attention of my teenager, which is not an easy thing to do. 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,460 So, hats off to Jill, great job. 58 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,420 And all of our volunteers have a staff that helped her in the fair. 59 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,180 It's great to have those research room doors back open as well. 60 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,800 It's a very beautiful, 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,980 beautiful word inviting to have those. 62 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:09,320 And speaking of the research room, so it is officially open on Spurs Days from 12 until 4. 63 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,960 That's been listed on the website. 64 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:19,440 And it was more of a soft opening that first and then will continue to advertise. 65 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:26,120 But our goal of being open two days a week, we're able to achieve that. 66 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:32,040 it's staff and we've fought here so thank you again a lot of progress has been made a short 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:41,840 amount of time. The third item there, Elbrotto County Board of Supervisors Policy F3, this is 68 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:48,800 actually the end-pricilbrotto on the screen. If you can scroll back up to the top for a quick quick. 69 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:56,760 This is the Elbrotto County Library and historical museum behavior policy and this has 70 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,320 uh... been in effect 71 00:04:59,220 --> 00:04:59,960 um... just don't 72 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:21,260 For a year, and it was created with the intent of ensuring that we have welcoming and inviting spaces. So, if someone's behavior made it to where it was not an inviting space for all, this works as a gradient and a power staff to take action. 73 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:28,020 and it's not just for the phone library but also the museum as part of the same 74 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,460 or as our department you'll receive the new theme. 75 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,140 And so I just wanted everybody to be familiar with it, knowing that it exists, 76 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:42,860 there was a presentation that I provided to the electronic board of supervisors 77 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:50,000 one year update related to this policy and just showing the statistics and how we have used it 78 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:57,440 system-wide, so throughout our libraries, our six libraries, and we have a lot of people coming 79 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,140 through our doors. 80 00:05:59,420 --> 00:06:09,060 There's actually, comparatively, very few times that we use this to a certain degree. 81 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:16,800 So sometimes it's just making the public belating the note that, you know, they might be unaware 82 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:22,580 that, hey, this activity that's, you know, behavior policy in place and so that's actually not 83 00:06:22,580 --> 00:06:30,160 allowed in the space and then if things were to progress then maybe somebody that's to leave for 84 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:38,900 the day and with something maybe a little more rare say somebody pushed over a display rack of items 85 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:43,760 or something like that then they would be restricted for a period of time and that could be up to a 86 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:50,160 So we have this in place to empower staff and ensure that all of our spaces continue to be welcoming. 87 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,920 And in earlier this year there was a presentation to the board. 88 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,080 So if you want to dig in deeper and view that feel free. 89 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:06,480 But policy, when it was created, it took a lot of factors. 90 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,640 A lot of factors were considered. 91 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 And we borrowed from policies, 92 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:24,840 large libraries, rural libraries, there was a spectrum of data collected to craft this, and it's proving to be very effective. 93 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:33,790 I don't number four, Library Funding and Sustainability at Hawk Committee. 94 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:42,090 This was created by the Board of Supervisors, actually granted the same meeting where the presentation 95 00:07:42,090 --> 00:07:49,970 was given related to the help date of the Behavior Policy, it was proposed that a funding 96 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:57,930 and systems will be ad hoc, be created and that committee was created and there's been 97 00:07:57,930 --> 00:08:12,150 a few meetings and later this year there will be a clear direction on the path forward and 98 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:20,070 related to some of these pieces of particular to the measures that are coming up. So we 99 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:29,630 have self-liberate, so a parcel tax that is expiring. And then we also have the Georgetown 100 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:36,070 Library, the same situation, a parcel tax is expiring. So that was one of the reasons 101 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:45,010 that this was posed, but with any funding discussions and potential mechanisms that are 102 00:08:45,010 --> 00:08:52,690 pushed to place in the future, I also wanted to bring them awareness to that since the 103 00:08:52,690 --> 00:08:59,970 library of course is connected to the museum. So more updates on that probably in the next 104 00:08:59,970 --> 00:09:08,170 and months or so. And then the fifth item there. So I know it's been mentioned previous meetings, 105 00:09:08,530 --> 00:09:16,770 we're exploring the software catalog it, we're able to session and de-assession and have 106 00:09:17,650 --> 00:09:26,910 an online catalog accessible to everybody. Anyone with internet access, we can put our artifacts 107 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:33,570 And then we can do all sorts of different types of scans and metadata around it, 108 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:35,630 really spectacular product. 109 00:09:36,490 --> 00:09:40,510 We've worked in the background with IT and some of the county processes and things 110 00:09:40,510 --> 00:09:41,870 continue to move forward. 111 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:50,670 And we should have this product in place within the next two months or so. 112 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:53,670 And it'll 113 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:59,970 be fantastic to have this in place as far as marketing and remote. 114 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:27,480 And preservation, you'll have a digital record of items at the museum. And we are doing a research and it's requested for us to export inventory lists. It will export in a PDF or other similar format. And it will have all the information listed, including photos. And we can export content with just a few clicks. 115 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:35,520 There's already a bit of bugs in the community around some of the items that we have 116 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,360 in sharing these, and then the community being able to explore on their own, all the wonderful 117 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:48,480 things that we have at the museum, and I've mentioned in the past our digital collection of photographs, 118 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,740 And there's about 30,000 of those. 119 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,280 And so, as we can do in the form of this, 120 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,380 likely what we'll do it is we'll input into that database, 121 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:09,860 a handful of our most exciting items, 122 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:13,340 determined by staff and volunteers, 123 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:15,720 and then we'll focus on certain areas. 124 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:24,960 But at first, we'll likely populate with some of those items that have the most resonate 125 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,240 most with the community in generating excitement. 126 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:33,960 But in the next two months, that should be in place, as far as I saw, we're going to start 127 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,020 populating that database. 128 00:11:39,890 --> 00:11:43,210 That's all the items I have, what are you going to report today? 129 00:11:44,090 --> 00:11:46,210 I don't think the question is in it. 130 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:47,290 Absolutely. 131 00:11:47,510 --> 00:11:47,790 Okay. 132 00:11:48,330 --> 00:11:50,670 Are there any questions from the commissioners? 133 00:11:50,930 --> 00:11:51,450 I'm curious. 134 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:57,390 I don't see on the agenda anything about the other member doing that on the commission. 135 00:11:57,570 --> 00:11:58,210 Excuse me. 136 00:11:58,350 --> 00:11:59,430 Just got that last time. 137 00:11:59,670 --> 00:12:00,090 What was it? 138 00:12:00,210 --> 00:12:00,870 On the floor. 139 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:03,070 And we both are people. 140 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:04,190 That's fantastic. 141 00:12:04,770 --> 00:12:05,110 We voted. 142 00:12:06,390 --> 00:12:07,070 It's pending. 143 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:08,350 I was going to add that question too. 144 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:11,430 I think it was pending with the supervisor. 145 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:15,510 And so I was also going to ask if you had heard anything back about their review of that 146 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:15,750 scanner. 147 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:16,250 Totally. 148 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:21,030 So I don't have any updates on that just yet. 149 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,540 So, but hopefully, we ask if they're aware of that individual's candidacy at this time 150 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:33,120 and it's just that they're waiting for it or it does that still need to happen to date. 151 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:42,360 So they are aware, but as far as next steps, that process has not gone very far. 152 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:49,900 So I would be possible to send out and update, I hate to wait another month, but maybe 153 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:54,560 that has to be done, that's certainly up to the supervisors to note, I'm thinking of 154 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,460 that individual, possibly feeling like they're waiting on us and I want that either, 155 00:12:58,540 --> 00:13:03,100 especially if we are a desireist and they're qualified, don't let me take the words out of your 156 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:03,160 mouth. 157 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,680 Yeah. 158 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Okay. 159 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:08,540 And as I recall, it means it's still open there, right? 160 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:13,670 So there could be another candidate while we're waiting. 161 00:13:15,810 --> 00:13:19,530 Let me check into some of the details with this. 162 00:13:24,130 --> 00:13:27,930 Let me go ahead and do that else in and update out. 163 00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:33,480 I think it's still posted. 164 00:13:34,020 --> 00:13:38,540 But of course, we need that process started. 165 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:41,900 We improved the candidate as a commission, 166 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,300 which you're saying so that it goes to the. 167 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,100 Good. 168 00:13:47,740 --> 00:13:53,520 So in my correct, we have not met the gentleman in the individual. 169 00:13:55,100 --> 00:14:00,680 So we're on the verge of sending blindly a candidate for commissioner to the supervisors 170 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,460 that none of us would know if we saw him on the screen. 171 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:06,920 The way Liz presented to us, yes. 172 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:09,700 We need your help. 173 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:21,100 But the application process for my understanding is, or certain personal information is 174 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:28,060 adapted, and then you're correct in, I don't know if anybody has spent that person 175 00:14:28,060 --> 00:14:29,620 in your life. 176 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:31,780 We'll continue moving that in the process. 177 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:43,840 The information we do have, not to take away from the very ballot point that you've made, though it is pretty positive, not quite a bit of experience. 178 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:49,520 Yeah, and also, yeah, it's so exciting to have this kind of a role that we don't know. 179 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:58,320 I just think we do have more responsible, we've presented it as proposal for a new commissioner if we at least met the individual room. 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 That's the way it has been in the past. So, the sooner it would know that we're active in. 181 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:13,740 I'll be the one to say I'll have to, whether it would affect us or not, we sort of would like to believe it wouldn't. 182 00:15:14,260 --> 00:15:27,380 But I think the intent of a blind process is to help ensure that there is no chance or a minimization of chance, bias, whether we're aware that bias or not. 183 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:31,200 So that may be a reason why. 184 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:33,880 I'm not saying I agree with that. 185 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,660 For saying like that aspect of it, 186 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,840 but it's a hindrance to us that we don't actually need the person to agree with that. 187 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:41,720 We have to admit we certainly have no bias. 188 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:43,340 We don't know. 189 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,780 We don't know. 190 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,820 Which is that time. 191 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,780 We can't recognize him if he's in the room. 192 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:48,900 We don't know if he's in the room. 193 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:51,040 I think he proves that when they let me in. 194 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,900 Yes, we're trying to learn it. 195 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,320 No. 196 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Okay. 197 00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:00,390 And I move my seat. 198 00:16:02,630 --> 00:16:09,490 Okay, so I'll jump back into this and say thank you very much, Bryce, for the updates on that, and for following up just to see kind of where that's at. 199 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:14,790 We are at Desiris of having the board filled the Commissioner Bill for Outer. 200 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:23,940 And that individual was invited to be previous meet. 201 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:26,880 Next, as far as I know they're 202 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:32,640 there. 203 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,280 Second question for you, possibly first I'll turn to the commissioners any other questions. 204 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:42,940 I have a second then which would be just a curiosity policy of three. 205 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Thank you for sharing that with us. 206 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:52,880 And that's helpful to understand that that policy exists just in case we may ever be in a position to help. 207 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:57,640 And unfortunately in a position where we need to invoke it or to let others know, 208 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,000 remind others that it exists. Has it in last year actually been invoked beyond that first level 209 00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:08,940 without specificity, but somebody's been far from attending, for example, for a year? 210 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:19,420 Yes. And that was shared in presentations with the board. So from what I 211 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:26,900 give you approximate numbers, it was utilized roughly 50 times a while within a year throughout the 212 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,580 system, but it is structured as a grading gradient. 213 00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:36,260 So some of those interactions could be something as casual as, I mean, so of our sites 214 00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:41,260 are right next to schools, so maybe a middle schooler decides to ride their scooter to 215 00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:41,660 the library. 216 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,740 And so it could be that, you know, that is mentioned, you know, you might not be aware 217 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:49,900 of her policy, but we don't allow scooters in the library. 218 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:57,020 So, can't write it here, and then maybe the individual rides the scooter again, and so it'd 219 00:17:57,020 --> 00:18:02,500 be something that I mentioned earlier about the behavior policy and the scooter and behavior 220 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:07,960 or the expectations around that, so I'm going to have to ask you leave for the day, but we'll 221 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:14,140 see you tomorrow. It could be something that is casual as that, but it really is a great hand. 222 00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:20,460 So, at one of our sites, there were two people that decided to engage in a physical fight, 223 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:26,500 and that is not allowed, that is not conducive of a well-known space. 224 00:18:26,780 --> 00:18:32,140 So, that's an example of being suspended during the year. 225 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:37,300 Thank you. I'm curious if that policy was evolving, 226 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:41,180 probably not, obviously, it's unclearly as obvious, yes. 227 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,460 And it would likely be a hard press to find a library 228 00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:49,340 system, urban or rural that does not have some form 229 00:18:49,340 --> 00:18:50,740 of a behavior policy. 230 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:56,980 And two and a half years ago, we did not have a policy. 231 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,960 And it's intent is to make a welcoming space for all. 232 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:14,640 And most of our patrons absolutely follow this policy every time that their actions are aligned 233 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,380 with a policy. 234 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:23,680 During all of their visits, it's just the realization that one person's choice and activity 235 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:32,940 can make the space less desirable to everyone, and that's not acceptable because these 236 00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:38,940 the situation at the front doors for the library regarding unfortunate and homeless people 237 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:44,120 who have had a beta is that historical thing now. I know some years a couple of years ago 238 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:49,660 they seem like they were. A few guys sleeping on the front steps in the library at the morning 239 00:19:49,660 --> 00:19:55,140 when we would go there for a meeting or a similar educational session or something. 240 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:59,960 Well, in libraries are a reflection of... 241 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,700 What's occurring in the community? 242 00:20:05,140 --> 00:20:13,200 So with any type of challenge, it'll be like Leigh and Evan, Evan flow. 243 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:27,800 And you know, you look at our statistics system live in this far as incidents. And they're very low, even considering that we are a more rural system. 244 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:48,780 But with any time that there are the community concern, we listen to that, and one of our primary goals is to be welcoming spaceships for everyone. 245 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:57,580 And in particular, some of our more vulnerable populations, we take children, so I think 246 00:20:57,580 --> 00:20:59,580 the system has done a very good job at that. 247 00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:06,350 Additional questions related to policy of three? 248 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:11,940 Another question on a follow-up topic, then, which would be the funding and sustainability 249 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:17,720 committee, if I might ask about the scope and powers of that organization to the degree that 250 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,500 not looking for necessarily a lot of information, but just what is their scope and what are 251 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:25,560 the empowered and what would that be to do? 252 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,820 Yeah, the ad hoc committee, so with library funding and sustainability, 253 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,900 I mean, one of 254 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:49,660 the driving forces of this and its creation is the realization that we have to, to 255 00:21:49,660 --> 00:22:02,110 districts where the property taxes, those are a bunch of sun setting. So it's exploring overall the 256 00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:08,550 funding and sustainability of keys, but in particular, those two districts, so something to 257 00:22:08,550 --> 00:22:18,470 and Georgetown, and it includes two members of the Board of Supervisor, and it is 258 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:22,230 supervisor, Parlin, and a supervisor of beer camp. 259 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Jordan, I'm guessing then they're 260 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,660 trying to, and I didn't be in the project if I was, I'm guessing they're trying to, 261 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:40,740 obviously find altered and funding such that we again sustain existing services in 262 00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:43,100 communities, possibly even more broadly. 263 00:22:46,660 --> 00:22:48,800 The ad hoc committee, 264 00:22:50,830 --> 00:22:52,810 that is a vehicle to have 265 00:22:53,510 --> 00:23:04,310 multiple supervisors involved in discussions related to those topics. So, with outcomes and 266 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:10,850 direction of that, that's something that, later this year, the 267 00:23:23,230 --> 00:23:24,630 sixth and the interpretation 268 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:29,690 a little bit for our commissioners too, and I think about this all the time, assuming it 269 00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:39,130 is what it appears to be in face value. I'm like a continuous striving that we all have 270 00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:44,290 to go through as a community, right, to ensure our services like library, like the museum and 271 00:23:44,290 --> 00:23:51,670 public services certainly as well. And it's always hard to chase after that money. I know my 272 00:23:51,670 --> 00:23:56,930 phone listens to me because it served me up a article last night that I sent over to Sean. 273 00:23:57,170 --> 00:24:02,430 It was Kimberland exact details of it. We'll find it if needed, but it's a some private equity 274 00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:08,130 groups shocked me. Now, so shocked me. I suspect private equity. I see been my own business 275 00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:13,430 taking over companies, right? It consolidating and finding efficiencies. I hadn't actually 276 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:19,210 contemplated the case, which appears to be real, that the particular private equity group, 277 00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:24,930 which I've not speaking ill of, I just wish surprised to see this reality buying public 278 00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:25,450 libraries, 279 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:37,440 you know, that is really interesting. It converts public asset into. So, I just, you 280 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,240 know, kind of think about sustainability a lot, curious about this particular, and I'll try 281 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,120 I've got to learn more, maybe through additional channels there, unless anybody else has heard of anything, 282 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:53,120 but really want to understand what we can do even as a commission to help support efforts and general 283 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:58,280 to help ensure that this remains a public asset and that it's sustained by our community. 284 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:14,700 If I can ask in, are they looking at options other than bond measures? Is that the idea? Or is it that they're looking at how to do a bond measure? I would like to see them going beyond just bond measures as a way to do it. 285 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:28,000 This is just a platform to open up discussion. Yeah, so as far as there's no directions to the canals and findings and all those pieces. I mean, that's something that 286 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:30,560 tire 287 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:39,220 board, share publicly, this is 288 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:46,050 created, and then, so that, 289 00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:51,410 don't 290 00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:52,230 have questions or comments? 291 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:57,350 Thank you for those updates. 292 00:25:57,830 --> 00:26:00,790 Last quick question, I think, just to confirm what I think I heard for Catalog 293 00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:02,130 it, which is so exciting. 294 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:08,570 I cannot wait to have that place, and you said a couple of months, so it sounds like around 295 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:13,070 release a temper maybe. I'm not holding you to it there, but it just sort of says that about 296 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:18,770 right in terms of your guests a bit of win. We might launch that at two months should 297 00:26:18,770 --> 00:26:22,950 be the absolute latest. Okay, I'm hopeful. 298 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,420 I'm hopeful that it could have, I mean, I'm 299 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:32,620 as excited as everyone else. So I'm hoping that the new product 300 00:26:35,570 --> 00:26:37,170 at the late, it shouldn't 301 00:26:37,170 --> 00:26:38,810 be later than 302 00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:44,780 there's a lot of different 303 00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:50,450 place, but once it's in place, 304 00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:00,290 that's became 305 00:27:00,290 --> 00:27:00,510 that. 306 00:27:03,290 --> 00:27:05,130 Exciting for all of us, I know. 307 00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:09,090 And also a good moment to say, thank you to you, Bryce. 308 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:16,450 You're staff broadly as well who are enabling it supporting this to happen, not only that, 309 00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:23,270 but also the extension of the hours, rather substantial extension, and then we all want that 310 00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:28,830 extent if much, much more Sunday, and we'll get back to that point for me to our goal and certainly 311 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:34,810 the recommendation of the commission that we get back to that. Eventually, we know that's not 312 00:27:34,810 --> 00:27:39,490 realistic in the short term, but we sure are happy with the progress that is being made so far. 313 00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:46,410 And I'm just speaking at all for the rest of the commissioners, anything to add. Thank you for that 314 00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:46,750 really. 315 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,820 Let's take a look at public comment. I recognize that we actually do have public in the room 316 00:27:57,820 --> 00:28:04,260 today. So we have one person at least. Nobody online. Jerry, you represent the entire 317 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:08,380 public today. I don't know if you would like to add at the time. 318 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:18,020 Well, I'm just excited about what we're seeing is doing as a historian, life, and yet, you know, 319 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:27,800 having no researcher open, let me add it. Okay. And yeah, I think we can do to get 320 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:36,120 to the book and make kates, see this a cool break, canals, canals, canals, canals. 321 00:28:36,220 --> 00:28:39,140 Except for the scooter. Yeah, that's good. 322 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be here. 323 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:54,700 I'll be turning to several things. So, you know, you don't have to add anything we'll check in if you'd like to. 324 00:28:55,860 --> 00:29:05,140 Okay, so we'll move into our discussion and action items and if the commission will allow this, 325 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:10,020 I do think we can make a special insertion here, just because of the passing, again, 326 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:16,660 of one of our former commissioners, Donaldman. Again, it wasn't here when he was a commissioner. 327 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:18,800 I don't actually know exactly when that was. 328 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:26,040 we filmed as vacancies. It was as vacancies specifically, so just before us then. 329 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:32,160 And we did know that Sean I did know, and I know you all know you don't, but he, 330 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,240 that we threw our associations with historical society, is it okay to just identify 331 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,560 reading his obituary into the record as well? Sure. 332 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:49,420 Don Emblem, Donald Emblem, 86 of Plasterville, passed away on June 10, 2025. 333 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Don was born on November 11, 1938, to Francis and Trudy Olman in Son Prairie, Wisconsin. 334 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Don's childhood was spending 335 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,580 Greendale was concerned before the growing family moved to Ingolwood, California, between his sophomore and junior years. 336 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:15,940 Don graduated from author and high school in 1956. After joining the Army Reserve, Don met and married 337 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:24,540 Monacolem and began a career in law enforcement. First with the LA County Sheriff's Office and then the California Highway Patrol. 338 00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:32,780 Don's CHP path began in New Hall, California, and afforded him opportunities throughout Northern California and Washington, D.C. 339 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,940 After his retirement in 1993, Don entered a second career with the International Association of Chiefs of Police, 340 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,000 and then the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. 341 00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:51,840 In 2001, Don worked with the California Office of Traffic Safety, coordinating its click-it 342 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,420 or ticket program, and helped design the signpost that don't call it one of your highways. 343 00:30:57,980 --> 00:31:04,400 Don was married to Mona until she passed in 1998. In 1999, he married his high school 344 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:11,620 sweetheart Caroline Briggeroth. Finally retiring for real, Don and Caroline settled down 345 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:17,420 their home in Claserville. Dawn volunteered at the upper room and with the children's ministry at 346 00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:23,300 New Hope Fellowship where he was known as Opus. He was also a commissioner at the Elderado 347 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:31,340 County Museum, Historical Museum, and a board member at the Historical Society. Often, you could find 348 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:37,760 it dressed up, leading walking tours up and down Claserville's Main Street. He was also a member 349 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,460 branch 1-1-3 polypine sons and retirement, serving as big a service. 350 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:50,220 Survived by his wife of 26 years, Dawn leaves behind Daughter's Allison, Jim Wells and 351 00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:55,920 Treaty Carter, the son Joseph Olman, with Liz and two surviving brothers, Gerald Martholomem, 352 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560 and John Laurel. 11 grandchildren and eight great grandchildren. 353 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Did anybody else get a chance to attend this funeral? I think anybody wants to say, 354 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,740 Sean and I went to it was a beautiful service and yeah, we're there, Karen. 355 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,140 Thank you for letting me read that into the record and Don, we're 356 00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:16,900 remembering you thinking of you and yours. 357 00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:20,320 Not said here was, you really knew how to make you laugh. 358 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:27,460 He was so funny, just cracked, you really cracked you up and so really missing. 359 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:33,500 He just recently did such a wonderful job on our two, we can highlight to him. 360 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:33,980 I'm sorry. 361 00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:38,520 It's a fact that everybody was cracking up at that, 362 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,400 that it's Joe's dream. 363 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,720 It's interesting. 364 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,280 I'm thinking of Dawn, 365 00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:49,480 giving tours and doing the all these things and then turning around and writing you, 366 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,620 speeding to get on. 367 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,460 And he was capable of doing both. 368 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,660 Excellent. 369 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,020 I'm sure. 370 00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:58,320 That's it. 371 00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,480 He was a good guy. 372 00:32:59,920 --> 00:32:59,980 It's good. 373 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,860 Okay. 374 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,900 Thank you for letting me interject with that. 375 00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:12,180 I will continue with our current agenda and that takes us now to either 25, 1233, 376 00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:17,700 discussed adopting a consent calendar slash agenda format for commission business and I'll 377 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:24,060 just expand on this a little bit and say that the intent of this is quite narrow and 378 00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:24,880 quite specific. 379 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,220 I noticed in our last meeting as we work and we will again today pick up where we left off 380 00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:33,780 When we were going through the various items that have been, 381 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:38,480 thank you to the staff and commissioners who have been helping to go through the items 382 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,500 in the store of a museum that are in some state of being processed, 383 00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:52,360 either for accessions or not, that is a lengthy process that actually we didn't finish 384 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,580 and we will try to finish today. 385 00:33:54,580 --> 00:34:04,120 But I would like to ask if not only to commissioners, but also staffs, as this would impact both of us. 386 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,720 They're pros and cons at this, but of using our consent agenda power, so to speak. 387 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:21,760 What that means is this, that as staff and commissioners and volunteers are going through the various items that remain in process 388 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,280 at the museum that need to be reviewed by us as commissioners and that happens outside of this 389 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:33,180 meeting, right? Those are being tallyed, cataloged, and a spreadsheet for our review, for example, 390 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:40,500 later today in our agenda. In order to make it through that process more quickly and presumably 391 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:51,440 for the benefit of the staff at the museum and the museum experience of visiting users. I want to 392 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,040 as well, right, but visitors. 393 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,420 We can clear out some of that space, get things properly, 394 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:58,040 and they're proper places, et cetera, 395 00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:59,500 while we could do that offline. 396 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:07,290 Right? We could have that sent down not only to us, but to the public in advance. Very transparent process, 397 00:35:07,390 --> 00:35:11,630 normal. That's essentially the purpose of the consent calendar consent agenda. 398 00:35:14,090 --> 00:35:16,790 And so the trade off of that is one 399 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:25,070 obviously we would have to agree to do that, like review in advance of a familiarity with the items that are listed in the spreadsheet 400 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:28,450 that Sean is looking at a little bit later today. 401 00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:34,830 And staff would also have to be OK with continuing 402 00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:36,330 to popular, but we're doing that anyways. 403 00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:40,190 So one presumes is OK, but going through and filling 404 00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:42,590 out that spreadsheet and then all of that worked 405 00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:47,170 at that, obviously in the tails, it compresses the work 406 00:35:47,170 --> 00:35:49,490 somewhat, I think, possibly a good way 407 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:52,670 that we get through more of it sooner and accomplish more sooner. 408 00:35:53,310 --> 00:36:00,090 That's the intent of this as a proposal, and I'd like to open that up for questions and 409 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:04,490 conversation at this time first with the commissioners. 410 00:36:04,610 --> 00:36:05,030 I know that. 411 00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:06,570 That's okay. 412 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:07,230 Yeah. 413 00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:10,050 So we can, is there a part of that or all? 414 00:36:10,330 --> 00:36:10,870 I'm like, what is it? 415 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:11,670 What we're going to do? 416 00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,270 I don't understand what we're going to do. 417 00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:16,910 It might be helpful to say that you're familiar with, we'll start here with a reflection 418 00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:21,770 on the current process that we follow the last time, and as a reminder for everybody, there's 419 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:25,990 spreadsheet, do you mind if we will turn it up since it happens to be right there? 420 00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:27,350 Yeah, exactly. 421 00:36:27,590 --> 00:36:31,050 So here's a printout of it, which is obviously the digital format. 422 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:38,250 And it's being populated through manual work right now, which won't change at the museum. 423 00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:41,230 That comes before us at this meeting, obviously. 424 00:36:41,890 --> 00:36:43,890 And there were 10 items on that list, I think. 425 00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:47,870 And we got through five at the last time, four. 426 00:36:47,950 --> 00:36:48,850 We got your four. 427 00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:58,070 And we spent a long time on that because obviously like we hadn't seen it before and we're going through it for the first time and then there's all the conversation around it, which is great. 428 00:36:59,390 --> 00:37:03,850 That difference, therefore, is overly simplified as saying this. 429 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:09,870 We would have this published well in advance of the meeting, not presented at the meeting. 430 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:15,270 You would get it in advance of the meeting weeks ideally in advance of the meeting. 431 00:37:16,770 --> 00:37:20,930 And then, you know, we would have a chance to look at it, go through, come together. 432 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:25,230 There would be, uh, there is already a recommendation in that spreadsheet as to whether 433 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:29,870 it should be accessioned or not staff helps with that, but not just staff, right? 434 00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:31,130 You know, the people are going through the process. 435 00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:36,270 And the nice thing is you don't, so we, you know, that's good. 436 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:38,830 You, everybody reviews it to dance, so we're ahead of things. 437 00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:42,530 Maybe we've reviewed 10 things or 20 things in advance, so we're way ahead. 438 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:50,410 You do have as a commissioner and so does the public, as well, like they have access to the document, too. 439 00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:58,190 So any one item can be pulled out, like it could be that if 20 things, one of them is like we should talk about. 440 00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:04,450 So you pull that one thing out, but the other 19 get approved. That's sort of how that works. 441 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:17,290 The one item is in one document that was, so the consent calendar is all but right now in the consent calendar is the minutes, right? 442 00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:27,910 So we can put more things in the consent calendar, so it would go sounds like you guys are proposing to put this document, let's say, 443 00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:36,910 It was a legitimate calendar, so where are you, when we then would be looking at the consent calendar, you guys will be voting on the minutes and all of those items in that document. 444 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:38,110 And one time. 445 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:39,110 Yeah. 446 00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:42,630 So there's a discussion during the meeting. 447 00:38:42,830 --> 00:38:48,070 Unless you want to see all the night amounts say this one is tricky, we need to discuss it. 448 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:50,830 And my question is about what have been the time. 449 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:53,870 I mean, I think that these, all the things, 450 00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:58,090 and go a bit the right way to send it to those one individual. Yes, each one is a 451 00:38:58,090 --> 00:39:03,690 item. There's not several things in it. Right, it's these are only that item that we're waiting to 452 00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:07,310 review. Because I know the things we have back in the green room. That's what these are. 453 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:14,010 All right, somebody's donated something. There could be 10 things in that, don't it? Right, that 454 00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:18,010 would be a one line item and they all be included in it. So either they all go or are you 455 00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:19,470 I'll stick, that it. 456 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:22,170 We don't give up any, so it'd be put at this, but yes, 457 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:23,470 but I'll modify it. 458 00:39:23,470 --> 00:39:24,950 May I cut these three things here? 459 00:39:25,010 --> 00:39:26,310 They're all listening, that's appreciate it. 460 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:28,730 I've got my 10, my keys, and my juice. 461 00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:32,750 And so you might be fine with the pen and the juice, 462 00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:34,390 but you've got a question about the keys. 463 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:36,710 It's several of them, and maybe one is of, 464 00:39:36,770 --> 00:39:37,910 you should talk about it. 465 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:42,430 And so you could pull just, you could pull 466 00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:44,190 just to this set of keys, and I don't know 467 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:44,970 we could talk about that. 468 00:39:45,110 --> 00:39:45,930 You could provide them. 469 00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:49,230 It's probably the option of approval, 470 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,520 but as with a key example, I mean, you could call things for discussion. 471 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,960 Finally, question is... 472 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,200 If given the sheet that we have here, if this is what we would expect, I would like one more call and it says, why? 473 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:16,620 Because there's not enough information. Okay, who's Charles Peter? Why would we want him in there? Without that little bit of information? 474 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,500 I would go, what do we want him for? 475 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:30,300 Well, and these are part of this backlog that exists currently, and some of them we don't have robust amount of information. 476 00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:38,740 Moving forward, we're not going to have a backlog, and that's one of the reasons that the commission needs monthly. 477 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:47,200 So when we receive something, it should go to the commission, the very next, right, you know, 478 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,660 available meeting, as long as we can meet the, you know, so we do our remark. 479 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:58,760 But my question here is, I don't know Charles Peter is, is he important, and you know, 480 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,500 kind of all the review of that this time. 481 00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:02,500 I think this was already done for the last meeting. 482 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,280 We've been improving upon descriptions and summaries. 483 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:12,900 He is the oldest pioneer that was living in California, 1915, and he mined in a rural 484 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,680 county specifically in 1845. 485 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:22,000 Yeah, that would be important to information for us to be able to decide before we get 486 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,800 here. 487 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,440 It's very easy. 488 00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:26,800 Yeah, we want to make these as robust as possible. 489 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:28,980 Yeah. 490 00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:29,160 Okay. 491 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,360 Because I don't know where we... 492 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,820 conversation or questions from the commissioners 493 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,700 would like to include staff and that as well. 494 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:50,960 It does impact, I mean, it's the same process of course, but it does have a different cadence in the process. 495 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,420 So it is a very neat. 496 00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:56,840 And I certainly respect the work that's happening there, and I know it's not just our staff, 497 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,440 and it's even some commissioners and volunteers that are involved in that process. 498 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,280 but I don't need to propose anything that doesn't actually provide value here for us being primarily 499 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,840 efficiency. 500 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,540 So, I have either comments or a question just in that I did take a quick peek and I have 501 00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:17,200 not been able to locate another commission that has used the consent calendar in this 502 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:17,660 banner. 503 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,880 But on the other hand, there aren't quite a lot of commissions that assist donations. 504 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,400 So, the only one I can come up with is Parks and Rec, and Parks and Rec, and I haven't 505 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,840 found a commission or an agenda where they have used that set calendar in that way. 506 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:37,720 I don't know if that's just because they just don't do it or if it's a loud or not, 507 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,560 I don't know what the rules are with that. 508 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:47,980 So, well, I didn't just say the primary concern must be for us that there is ample opportunity 509 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:54,300 for the public to comment and notwithstanding that, you know, today we don't necessarily, 510 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,480 you know, we've lost a couple of meetings or hasn't been, but it would be out there and I think 511 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,220 we should do everything we can to promote awareness, 512 00:43:01,220 --> 00:43:04,760 to promote awareness of the purpose of the commission, 513 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000 which will not be denigrated, so to speak, 514 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,800 by having this as a process, in my opinion, 515 00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:15,320 at least as long as we truly can say and do follow up 516 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,840 on this, but we've got it. 517 00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:18,940 Yeah, we have to review it and we can't arrive 518 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:22,380 to this meeting and look at it for the first time. 519 00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:25,080 That is exactly what we're trying to avoid. 520 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,240 That may be asking too much, I don't know. 521 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:33,180 Yes. So that is my question. So then if that does happen to me, 522 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,220 the we see signatures are going to be accepted too. 523 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:41,700 So when Morgan before the meeting, it would be familiar with all of it. Exactly. 524 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,260 And then they decide before the meeting if that's moving. 525 00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:55,090 At the meeting itself, when we go through it, we get to that point of consent agenda. 526 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:58,590 And we're right now we just have the one line item there, but there would be two line items. 527 00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:03,690 So I will take time to ask everybody. Is there anything that needs to be pulled? 528 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,240 from maybe yes and things need to be pulled out in which case it'll drop down into our 529 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:18,120 actionments. We'll review them. And so this will be, so that there are items that are pulled 530 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:25,420 for further discussion and it's going to be, that's going to be the tacit approval of 531 00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:27,920 the 532 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,300 recommendation on peer to a session in or to not a session, so that's why it may agree. 533 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:35,280 That's right. 534 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,460 So there'd be another column that says recommended a session to you session type of a thing. 535 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,760 So that's what I'm going to do. 536 00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:44,340 Not in this one. 537 00:44:44,420 --> 00:44:45,060 This is older. 538 00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:46,520 So we've improved it. 539 00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:52,220 So as we've been going through on Saturdays and working with staff and volunteers, 540 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,780 as even with volunteers, we've been adding what that recommendation works like. 541 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,900 And then this is going to sit or sit. 542 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:07,080 I think the only other thing would be, like consent item, you see it's all gay or nay, 543 00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:16,900 but we say you have ten items. If you're pulling one, does that mean you want to say nay, or does it just mean you have more information? 544 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,920 More information, just definitely a conversation. It's I don't have enough information to know who that. 545 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,940 The straw is haters. 546 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:33,060 Let's say that just the way it is right now, and I want to say note, but everybody else, 547 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,520 when you get to the consenting, it can be taken so I can consent that I would have to say 548 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:38,920 no. 549 00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:39,720 That's right. 550 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,820 Yeah, we would have to call that out, and if you want to change the status, that's right. 551 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,800 That's right. 552 00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:51,420 Well, I'm leaving things just now after getting more information, but I think that shows 553 00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:52,840 some important that it is. 554 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:59,720 I'm happy that's why I was asking early on is I can provide more supplemental information on each item if it's not there. 555 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:06,280 Well, that's what I appreciated the last meeting was afraid we might not get through the internet. 556 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,700 But if you're going to put all that problem out there, then I'm okay with it. 557 00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:17,340 I think it's down on alternate real timeline for just a moment because it's just useful to talk about it. 558 00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:19,340 Please disagree with me if you don't think this is likely. 559 00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:24,780 but having all of us having been inside the museum and knowing how much there is to go through, 560 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,140 right, there's quite a lot, and it's important that we do it, it's literally our jobs, right? 561 00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:40,140 And so let's say we decide not to find a more efficient, but not less quality path, right? Again, 562 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,700 like somehow more work is here for us one way or the other, either it's because in between our meetings, 563 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,460 We get a list, we're going through it, think about it, 564 00:46:50,660 --> 00:46:52,400 I'm going to pull this a lot and I'm going to say 565 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,160 that whatever it is, right? 566 00:46:54,860 --> 00:46:58,080 Or we don't, which means, as we're going to experience 567 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,680 again in a short little pit, we're going to have a lot of items. 568 00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:06,420 Every one of these means to review and my guess is 569 00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:09,340 at some point we're going to say to each other, 570 00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:12,160 we're going to make an adapt, not a big enough debt, 571 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,700 not fast enough. 572 00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:24,320 Maybe that's okay, but that does imply that the room available and the transition and 573 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:30,220 improvement of the museum space is delayed. 574 00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:35,260 It just takes longer to clean all that up, get everything in place, because they're waiting 575 00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:36,220 on us. 576 00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:41,060 And we're going line by line on a lot of things, which, you know, that's okay. 577 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,160 We can do that. 578 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,060 I just wanted to to speak about and looking at the process as a whole. 579 00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:56,620 I think we've done pretty well at identifying the things that do need to run through the condition. 580 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:06,410 With that, if that takes a while, that's really okay because we do not. 581 00:48:07,090 --> 00:48:10,350 We don't have any place to put the stuff that you say gets like that. 582 00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:16,850 We know we don't have any where and we're still trying to clear space to 583 00:48:16,850 --> 00:48:18,990 pretty processing area. 584 00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:21,110 We don't have the space for that. 585 00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:25,170 So I think we're actually don't panic by. 586 00:48:25,290 --> 00:48:30,230 I think we're actually at a good place as far as having identified 587 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:34,130 most of the items that need to be looked at to a session or not. 588 00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:37,910 And having them in a single-stating area. 589 00:48:38,570 --> 00:48:44,710 But I'm missing a point there, which is that things, things are not going to be 590 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:48,770 accession, and that's the part of what we're trying to do to save, we're not taking 591 00:48:48,770 --> 00:48:49,250 the right. 592 00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:53,910 So, you need that space clear, and that's kind of where I was coming from. 593 00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:54,170 Right. 594 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:58,790 I don't mean to speak for you, like if you've just had to say, no, we're fine, I will not 595 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:59,510 push on this. 596 00:49:00,130 --> 00:49:03,810 But then we still, I mean, but there's been there still some places to stage for things 597 00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:06,050 that we have decided, not to a session, 598 00:49:06,690 --> 00:49:11,670 while we go through the process of doing whatever we do with presenting them. 599 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:13,730 I'm pretty sure that we have never obsessed. 600 00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:17,630 We're turning them to whoever donated, 601 00:49:18,110 --> 00:49:21,490 just going through that whole process of finding out who that is. 602 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:23,310 Because that's a process in itself. 603 00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:28,290 That's why I'm trying to, don't feel rushed. 604 00:49:29,590 --> 00:49:31,510 No, it'll be nice to see that corner. 605 00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:32,550 It would be a process. 606 00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:37,050 And it would be really nice, I know, but there's, you can be nasty. 607 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:40,350 I think that's not where the lockdown is. 608 00:49:40,930 --> 00:49:45,110 I think it appears that you never relate, because we are actually doing something now. 609 00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:48,070 And we processed last month and we're going to process this month. 610 00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:52,310 I hope a couple of items and we're pouring into the pile. 611 00:49:53,650 --> 00:49:59,590 And I agree, I don't think there will be an overwhelming amount of difficult to determine items. 612 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,780 We're not following. 613 00:50:03,050 --> 00:50:22,930 Providence is everything to me because that's the cutting edge. Who is this guy, as he gave it? Do you? Do you know who he was in San Diego? Why do we have in them? That kind of thing. Anyway, I applaud everybody. Let's, let's make tracks and we'll work our way through it and make some good decisions. 614 00:50:22,930 --> 00:50:23,810 In 615 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,200 the other questions or comments, the moment it's time. 616 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:31,180 Before I get to a turn into the public, sorry. 617 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,740 The other questions are coming from Commissioner Thorstown. 618 00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:36,740 Apologies for one of the decisions. 619 00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,380 Let's see. 620 00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:43,980 I mean, down the line, we will not have a left log. 621 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600 We have a bit of a back log now. 622 00:50:50,980 --> 00:50:52,060 The library department. 623 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,480 I mean, we're flexible. 624 00:50:53,480 --> 00:51:00,060 And if something, if this was approved and then it was, 625 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:07,940 it's not like it, there couldn't be another pivot. 626 00:51:09,420 --> 00:51:14,320 Maybe it's something that helps at this time, and doesn't adopt it in the long run, 627 00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,800 or you won't know how it goes unless you try it. 628 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,520 But the library is, we are flexible. 629 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,050 I did want to make one more comment. 630 00:51:28,330 --> 00:51:29,950 I could be for you, Transphobic. 631 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:35,070 I've been volunteering in helping with this process of 632 00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:37,230 FAFSA volunteers at the museum. 633 00:51:37,850 --> 00:51:42,750 And while, yes, it's not overly disruptive in terms of where these things are right now. 634 00:51:43,070 --> 00:51:46,390 There's, they have a location where they're held. 635 00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:51,970 There are a lot of items that staff and volunteers have been 636 00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:58,190 discovering that our, perhaps, have an accession, that perhaps don't even have a problem 637 00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:01,810 on some account. Maybe they shouldn't have that, and they should come back for discussion 638 00:52:01,810 --> 00:52:09,650 you for the commission. We're seeing a lot of things that that may apply to. The sooner we get 639 00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:15,990 through these, the sooner we can address those and make more space. And so I think a consent calendar 640 00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:21,950 is important for that reason. There's otherwise we'll never get up. What's in front of us? 641 00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:25,390 If that makes, that's how I view it. 642 00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:27,110 That's a good point. 643 00:52:27,490 --> 00:52:28,250 Depending on 644 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:33,980 our current backlog is around. 645 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,500 You estimate 40 items. 646 00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:37,900 I hope. 647 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,800 Do you already have you added more to that time? 648 00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:41,800 I think they did. 649 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:43,400 Oh. 650 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,380 Yeah. 651 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:48,040 And something came along Saturday to be considered by the commission. 652 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,500 But that falls way behind all of these. 653 00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:56,100 So, I'm anxious for the doctors, can't you accept it like I cannot wait for us to go down that? 654 00:52:57,540 --> 00:53:02,240 And I suspect that that will be accepted and added to the collection. 655 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,980 And I dream about it being one of the first things we'll catalog it, but that is just my advice. 656 00:53:09,460 --> 00:53:11,120 Like, so I have to have another item. 657 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,720 We want to get to these things and then all the other things that need to be reviewed. 658 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,880 So, that I think that's the spirit of this proposal. 659 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,560 So, I felt that it would be, so, let's say we moved to the consent calendar. 660 00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,680 And we, a session, 40 items, I'd like that. 661 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,580 That's the book. 662 00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:31,660 Or do you have session with volume? 663 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:32,480 Yeah, right. 664 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:33,400 Ah, okay. 665 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,080 But let's say 20. 666 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,700 We're going to session. 667 00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:35,420 What do you have? 668 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:35,900 What do you have? 669 00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:41,740 So, I'm not sure what the process then looks like on the back end, and I don't think all 670 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:45,620 some of you know, I'm just the paperwork, and I don't take care for these meetings, but 671 00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:47,080 what is the process then? 672 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,420 how much work is going into the sessioning those 20 items that be a session in the other 20. 673 00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:59,100 Can they keep the staff and the volunteers who are responsible for that part of the process keep up if we do it in that platform? 674 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,680 I think there's just a change right here. 675 00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:02,720 I'm positive, Sam. 676 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:13,300 No, but just because the decision has been made, there's not a certain timeline on that. 677 00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:21,420 What I want to do is quickly is possible, but at least at that point we know and we can start that path. 678 00:54:23,630 --> 00:54:30,470 Because without that there's no option for moving forward even if it's at a slower pace. 679 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,660 It doesn't change. 680 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,120 It never does the same. 681 00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:40,230 But it does get us to the point tonight. 682 00:54:40,570 --> 00:54:42,850 If you're hinting that this also I agree with you. 683 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:44,370 I think we all see it. 684 00:54:45,610 --> 00:54:48,410 It's actually a lot of work collectively and a lot of different parts. 685 00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:52,730 all the way through. We barely touched on it, but it's actually a really big thing like 686 00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:56,910 calling, if we have contact information, calling the families that may have brought that 687 00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:59,970 in originally today, then moving all the way past. 688 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:15,320 Possibly to a surplus situation, which is several steps downstream, like something that we make a decision on here. I'm curious how long it does take us to get it through that whole cycle. And I bet you'd say, year, my guess, I don't know, maybe it's lost, maybe it's more. 689 00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:24,760 That's not today's conversation. That's some huge third conversation. We recognize we're down to a day plus next to a day for some research. 690 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,300 We're going to rebuild the museum over time, right? 691 00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:32,800 That's one of the things that the Commission will continue to recommend is, and one of 692 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,300 the reasons I was asking you earlier about funding, you know, we have to keep in mind 693 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:42,040 also as commissioners are all in helping to engage in the community and help to find and 694 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,360 find support of all kinds, Ontario is one of them, I think. 695 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:52,920 So that we can get back to full capacity, until then, I don't know how long it's going to take 696 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,880 the process, these things, but I sure as I know that the list of things to be processed, I 697 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:04,840 have we could do that much faster soon. I'd like to say given that you guys are working so hard 698 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:10,660 about the problem and to make sure that what is put out there we have information to make a decision. 699 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:22,900 I would move that we vote on this and give it at least a try. If it doesn't work, we'll 700 00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:24,740 that the television doesn't work. 701 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,420 Let me open it up to the public too. 702 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:27,900 Public. 703 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,360 Public in the room. 704 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,340 Nobody online. 705 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:31,800 Okay. 706 00:56:32,740 --> 00:56:34,600 So, I mean, that I wasn't dead last week. 707 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,960 Am I understanding of what you're saying is that there are. 708 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,900 This is not the museum collection as a whole. 709 00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:50,920 This is new items that are sitting there that have been donated by the public 710 00:56:50,920 --> 00:57:00,200 to the historical museum that you're deciding whether it will be in the collection group. 711 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:21,360 Is this part of this that then the items can be changed in the museum to incorporate the new donations so that the museum has changed to it? 712 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,480 I don't know, in my opinion, at least I'll open up to others, that there's any change in 713 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,140 applied. 714 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,940 It's simply accession or de-accent or not accepting. 715 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,720 It's not really a de-accession if we haven't accessioned it before, but I can get my point. 716 00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:36,800 Like I had ever saying, yep, okay, we'll take it. 717 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,700 Or, no, we're not taking that. 718 00:57:38,740 --> 00:57:40,400 It's more of a gatekeeping process. 719 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,800 And then once you get the item goes, 720 00:57:42,820 --> 00:57:44,340 Trant, go through the gate. 721 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,940 Then it would be up to those involved in the actual operation of the museum 722 00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:53,100 to decide where and when it would be exhibited or how you would interpret it or so on. 723 00:57:53,320 --> 00:58:02,780 But this would be a sifting program and it's well needed because we take an advantage 724 00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:06,980 of many two items by people who just want to drop stuff and... 725 00:58:06,980 --> 00:58:07,240 Right. 726 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,720 So who have the form that people sign, that the donor sign, that it says, this is a consideration 727 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,540 for a decision too. 728 00:58:16,820 --> 00:58:17,040 That's okay. 729 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:34,220 So when, when, um, the item is not accepted and if the, um, if it's been a while and there's no family to return it to, okay. 730 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:43,760 So then you have a stack of stuff that cannot be, 731 00:58:48,020 --> 00:58:49,340 yeah, there's a process. 732 00:58:49,340 --> 00:58:52,420 can be sold and the money is put into the museum. 733 00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:55,980 And the public way well now, it's been here, it's been moving. 734 00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:58,160 That's usually the last. 735 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,540 That's the last resort. 736 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:13,620 Well, as a historian, if I was online and saw the Peters, I would be all over that. 737 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:29,900 If it was in my family, it, you know, Charles Kader was in my family and I was doing research on them, that would be will it be scanned page by page or is it just, we didn't ask one picture like that. 738 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,500 I didn't understand the last question. It's a book. 739 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:40,880 So if I was doing research on my family and I had Charles Peter in my family history and I looked 740 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:48,540 online and it popped up that the library museum in Passovo, California, had said book. 741 00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:54,280 Would it be something that would be macrophies so people can see it? 742 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,320 is it? 743 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,960 Yeah, so if... 744 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,960 with items that we... 745 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:27,880 And add to the collection. This is part of the reason for the catalog at software. And there's actually options in our library catalog and then the back end software that we use, but that as well. And we also have, we've acquired a book scanner to our intent is to scan entire items. 746 01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:34,860 And we will have a huge amount of storage space. 747 01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:42,100 So we're engineering things to where we will be able to offer that. 748 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:49,660 So forever, you know, if internet access, when you can use your laptop or your phone or your tablet or whatever it might be, 749 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,880 you can open these items up and scroll through them and discover and... 750 01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:04,280 And so, yeah, these are, you know, this was our first power point that was put together 751 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:12,060 with some of these backlog items and with time considerations when I assembled all of that, 752 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,580 with some of them I had multiple photos that were very high quality, but I took a screenshot 753 01:01:17,580 --> 01:01:26,380 of that, so it wasn't as high quality. So even with the process, as far as review, you'll see 754 01:01:26,380 --> 01:01:35,140 higher quality pictures and scans moving forward. Now we wouldn't scan the entire book with 755 01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:42,220 this process, but if we were to add it, then we would have wanted to document and preserve everything 756 01:01:50,700 --> 01:02:00,710 I don't think we have any questions from the public at this time, I don't think we have any other questions. 757 01:02:01,310 --> 01:02:04,870 We heard enough questions from the public at this time. 758 01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:08,710 Well, there have been a motion. Do you mind any rest time of your motion? 759 01:02:09,130 --> 01:02:09,210 Okay. 760 01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:12,530 And move that we give this. 761 01:02:14,130 --> 01:02:15,590 I'm going to figure out what it's called right now. 762 01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:19,230 Yeah, just consent calendar. 763 01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:20,530 I'm sorry. 764 01:02:22,070 --> 01:02:25,170 And that it works that we continue using. 765 01:02:27,230 --> 01:02:30,290 I'm going to friendly amendment to that, which is probably unnecessary. 766 01:02:30,810 --> 01:02:33,130 I may, which is just this, that. 767 01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:37,050 And we agree as commissioners that we've got some work in between these meetings. 768 01:02:37,050 --> 01:02:40,850 And that's probably not terrible because it's kind of fun, actually, right? 769 01:02:40,930 --> 01:02:49,750 You could see these items and contemplate them and do a little research, but yes, we won't be doing all that work in this meeting. 770 01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:51,550 We'll be doing it in between news. 771 01:02:51,970 --> 01:02:53,490 Accept the amendment. 772 01:02:54,490 --> 01:02:59,210 But remember, for pointing discussion, that this is more than just the assertion of items. 773 01:02:59,290 --> 01:03:01,290 This is for commission business. 774 01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:02,770 So consent count are quick. 775 01:03:02,770 --> 01:03:09,990 I have other things in, and I've said, if gender other than what we've discussed today, it can be anything. 776 01:03:10,330 --> 01:03:20,790 Or just just for a point, we can come in on that consent deal and say, well, we all read the previous agendas and the events. 777 01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:25,590 And we can just say that that's part of that whole thing and move right along. 778 01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:29,070 Yeah, there's advantage to that. There's going to be other business. 779 01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:34,510 So I wasn't contemplating truthfully, I wasn't contemplating other business and yet from time to time, 780 01:03:34,850 --> 01:03:40,070 not that we do much else, but I guess we could be something else that decided that we wanted to treat in this way. 781 01:03:40,310 --> 01:03:41,230 It is theoretically possible. 782 01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:46,070 I think it gives us opportunity to make a decision if we need to address something or not. 783 01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:51,130 We don't have to force it to look this up with all kinds of things if we don't have a need. 784 01:03:51,130 --> 01:03:58,160 But I think it does leave it open and it makes it more powerful to just the deaccessioning of absurdity. 785 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:00,750 Refusal to a second. 786 01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:03,620 Do we have a second? 787 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,700 I second. 788 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:06,540 All right. 789 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:07,840 All in favor. 790 01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:08,920 All right. 791 01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:10,000 In any case. 792 01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:12,180 Okay. 793 01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:13,400 Thank you for that conversation. 794 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,660 Can I just ask for clarity? 795 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,960 So the motions to move to try using the consent calendar to a session and deacity to deaccession 796 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,740 ideas that items or the backlog items? 797 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,780 Backblog of items, in my opinion, at least at this time. 798 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,880 I'd give you what you're asking there, a better broader. 799 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,460 But I think we can strain it a little bit right now in the city. 800 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,060 But you disagree. 801 01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:37,200 We're just talking about the backlog for the moment. 802 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680 We can always decide to expand if we want to. 803 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,440 Can you always pull an item? 804 01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:45,920 The amendment was that there was going to be work for the museum from a shared 805 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,020 studio in the interim period, which you basically research on the item. 806 01:04:49,060 --> 01:04:50,620 We have to review that. 807 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:59,960 But again, remember, as this says adopting a consent calendar format for commission business. 808 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:10,560 That's the title of the item. Right. That's basically what the item is. 809 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:16,020 You're adopting a consent calendar that you can use for any number of purposes. 810 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:26,360 I'm saying it does it specifically say here that we're by motion adopting anything but this. 811 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:32,580 right? Or did you do that with your motion, including a session? Well that's the way that reads. 812 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:40,980 If there's ever a problem, though, you have the right to pull an item. So consent item is proposed 813 01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:47,260 and there's eight items on there, and you don't like to, all you have to do is say, I'm going to pull those two 814 01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:53,660 items. Actually, an item is actually an agenda item. It's not a thing in a sack, 815 01:05:53,660 --> 01:06:04,760 We have to, it's not an item for ascending, it's an item of business, we have wine items, sorry, I had a different definition of my event like this. 816 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,180 No, we have wine item veto. 817 01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:07,620 Okay. 818 01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:13,480 Say, I don't want that in the emotion and it's full. 819 01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:14,700 Excellent. 820 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:16,240 Okay. 821 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,960 I'm going to move us on in our agenda then. 822 01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:22,280 Thank you all for a very positive conversation about that. 823 01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:30,040 Next up is another very interesting conversation I predict, which is I'm in 25, 12, 35. 824 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,500 Discuss and gather feedback on the draft vision and mission statements. 825 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:38,800 And so I've passed that out, I think it's in front of everybody. 826 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:39,980 It's available online. 827 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:40,440 Thank you. 828 01:06:40,660 --> 01:06:43,660 There is a screen as well. 829 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:50,260 And so as you're looking at this single one side of page, then you're probably already now. 830 01:06:50,260 --> 01:06:58,340 I'll take you back in time to shortly and say if that several months ago, one of the things that we said we would do, 831 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:07,800 and we did was kind of go through all of the various foundational documents for the museum itself, including its operational policies, et cetera. 832 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,100 Amongst those, I'm giving right over that, that's been done and feedback provided. 833 01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:18,700 But amongst those, we also discovered that there was a lack of a vision statement. 834 01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:22,860 It doesn't exist as far as anybody can tell, and we want one. 835 01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:30,060 And there is a mission statement, and I see the vision statement being sort of top-level 836 01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:33,480 and the mission builds from the vision statement. 837 01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:40,800 So the mission statement does exist, and it's been, I won't say, clean up here, but it's been 838 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,460 and it represents it here, because whole section in the operations document, 839 01:07:44,580 --> 01:07:47,860 which actually has a lot of text that which a lot of it is not a mission statement. 840 01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:50,820 And so that was part of the problem too, as we kind of thought, 841 01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:56,660 well, however it has been written, it's not that there's anything perhaps missing, 842 01:07:56,860 --> 01:07:59,720 but it could be said better, it could be made a little bit more distinct, 843 01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:03,940 it could shape it a little bit more to reflect what we want to do. 844 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,380 And so we went about drafting that always with the intent, 845 01:08:09,380 --> 01:08:14,280 which is pure forth displayed and continues to make that public, 846 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:15,980 and it's public across as possible, 847 01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:18,000 that this is a vision and emissions statement 848 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,100 that just like the museum itself, 849 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,380 from the library system itself, 850 01:08:21,580 --> 01:08:22,740 that's belongs to the community. 851 01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:25,080 Having said all of that, therefore, 852 01:08:25,260 --> 01:08:27,420 you now have in front of you a draft. 853 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,440 There is no vote today on any of this. 854 01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:31,260 It is purely for our conversation. 855 01:08:32,140 --> 01:08:34,040 It is the first time that sort of formally, 856 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,260 if not, importantly, previously, 857 01:08:36,260 --> 01:08:44,660 that have had several individuals review them, we want more to review them. 858 01:08:44,940 --> 01:08:48,600 Several on this group have reviewed them, not all of us. 859 01:08:48,740 --> 01:08:52,440 Several on the public have actually looked at it because we've been kind of floating this out a little bit 860 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:55,840 to some of the other organizations that are out there, non-profits, for example, 861 01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:58,680 if members of the community just get a little bit of a sense of feedback, 862 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,240 which has been 863 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:13,960 is, there is a horizon, a time horizon on this sort of speak, I don't know where I got that 864 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:18,960 language from, some business by summer. There's a time horizon on this for one to the 865 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:25,520 better praising, which is that I knocked over, forget the day, but we have that's when the 866 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:36,220 sport of supervisor meets and we are to present. And so by then, in October, we want to have 867 01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:43,060 with a recommendation that we formally begin the process to add the vision statement and 868 01:09:43,060 --> 01:09:50,560 the mission statement for the museum. Was that a helpful overview or are there any questions 869 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,960 from the commissioners? 870 01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:59,390 Any questions for staff? And then we'll begin conversation. Okay. 871 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,100 Let's open it up to conversation first here, and then we'll do public as well after that. 872 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:11,420 So you've been reading while I've been talking, talking, talking at you, sorry. The vision and the 873 01:10:11,420 --> 01:10:15,040 admissions statements ask your impressions. How does it feel when you read them? 874 01:10:21,260 --> 01:10:23,160 How do we wait till we're nationally ready? 875 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:29,820 Yes. It's fire. Boy, well, the stuff really flow in for a session again. 876 01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:34,920 Can I treat that actually for a second? 877 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,600 Because it's a good entry point for the conversation and say, nationally, recognize 878 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,480 it at how it works. 879 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:41,840 Yeah. 880 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,300 Yeah, nationally. 881 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:49,260 Everybody that I have shown this too so far has paused on that and it's good. 882 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:50,720 It's a different pause on it. 883 01:10:51,140 --> 01:11:00,120 Can I say, in my opinion, that that reflects a desire, hit some level, but also a 884 01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:07,840 as to whether we could desire to be, but in doubt as to whether we could be. 885 01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:11,160 And I'll make a very short case this to why we could be. 886 01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:26,980 And that is that so much of, I certainly don't do the country justice when I say that so much of its evolution was affected by the discovery of gold near this region. 887 01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:30,820 so that that is not the whole story. There's many parts of these vision and 888 01:11:30,820 --> 01:11:34,040 emissions statements that speak to the whole story of California. 889 01:11:34,380 --> 01:11:42,120 That particular, that particular reason shows that, you know, to me, and I think 890 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:47,980 to all of us, that we actually should be nationally recognized for the influence we had not just locally, 891 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:54,680 not just regionally, not just in the state, but the whole country's direction, 892 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,500 the ability changed at that moment and we are at the 893 01:11:57,500 --> 01:12:01,140 epicenter of it in this county eight miles from where we're sitting. 894 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,720 Yeah, why not be nationally known and nationally recognized for many reasons 895 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,440 of which that's one. 896 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:09,980 That's the thinking behind that. 897 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,180 And in the context of the goal discovery that suffices. 898 01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,520 And we're not saying we're a museum of everything. 899 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:28,500 We're not just in a Sonyan, but your point is well taken within 900 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:38,420 And the fact of gold discovery in the ripples that went out in settler wagon trains and everything else, 901 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:47,780 transganal raroads and everything else, we are the upper center and I think we would be naturally known, 902 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:57,580 but you do have to produce if you're going to be known when the questions and requests for research come in and so forth. 903 01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:58,980 But that's an honor. 904 01:12:59,740 --> 01:13:01,020 We're developing the tools. 905 01:13:03,060 --> 01:13:05,240 So one of the most important ones that 906 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,360 is to be able to get out to the public, 907 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,820 you're doing such a terrific job with right now. 908 01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:12,140 So the next thing is to take the museum 909 01:13:12,140 --> 01:13:14,580 itself to the next level. 910 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,580 And we can't do that if we don't 911 01:13:16,580 --> 01:13:18,060 strive to do that. 912 01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:22,430 Not just the museum, but the research rooms, 913 01:13:22,670 --> 01:13:23,970 preserving and interpreting it 914 01:13:23,970 --> 01:13:26,730 says the complete diverse history and cultures of all 915 01:13:28,890 --> 01:13:35,370 includes indigenous culture. It includes, you know, the things that keep alluded to, again, 916 01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:40,290 we're talking wagon trains, the lumber industry, and the labor of the fruit industry, and 917 01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:47,130 ag, and railroad. So, there's a lot to do. Catalog, it's going to help with that. I think that this 918 01:13:47,130 --> 01:13:52,590 is a positive mission statement. ambitious isn't the word I'm working for. It's refreshing. 919 01:13:54,590 --> 01:14:02,030 And I think it's nice to read this at these mission statements every now and again, and talk about why we're here, why we're doing what we're doing. 920 01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:10,050 Well, the community wants the museum and the research room to represent, and I think that's well stated in this draft. 921 01:14:10,050 --> 01:14:10,770 question 922 01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:19,010 here is on the mission statement where it says that it's the present, the diverse stories and 923 01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:22,710 conference of history of order and accounting, and again it's narrative to California and the nation. 924 01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:27,910 So, but we don't want this stuff to connect us to the nation in our collection, right? 925 01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:29,150 Because we don't have room. 926 01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:33,550 Our story has it relates to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, 927 01:14:33,890 --> 01:14:34,970 yeah, because 928 01:14:35,470 --> 01:14:38,570 Washington, DC, commemorative coin that I want you to have. 929 01:14:38,570 --> 01:14:42,150 I don't know, it's great because we see all the things that were currently discussing that 930 01:14:42,150 --> 01:14:47,170 are backlocked, all those most of those people came from other parts of the world in the country 931 01:14:47,170 --> 01:14:51,450 and they made their home here at least temporarily if not permanently, and that's the connection. 932 01:14:53,150 --> 01:14:53,830 I'm sorry to talk to you. 933 01:14:53,850 --> 01:14:59,570 It goes beyond that Lincoln Highway on the express that there's so much that comes through this county. 934 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:19,440 Throughout history, now we've got the wine country, you know, this has become one of the primary wine growing areas, but we tend to focus only on the gold rush, which is huge, but that's one of my areas I really like, but there's so much more that we can talk about, that we can look on on a national scale. 935 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:23,820 My point was not that we shouldn't look at the young elder in a county. 936 01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:28,840 Mine was more of a logistics of, in the first, the original mission statement, right? 937 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,260 I'm not saying that advocating that we should keep it kind of a thing, but it's basically 938 01:15:33,740 --> 01:15:38,320 it's centering the focus on elder out of county, but this says the focus of elder out of county 939 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:45,660 and how it pertains to the California and the nation, it was more about people wanting to donate their stuff. 940 01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:51,840 then do we need to look at how our donation thing is written so it does, you know, from this 941 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:56,960 county. That's the thing I'm worried about. I don't, I haven't looked at that guy, you know, 942 01:15:57,260 --> 01:16:01,780 so I just want to make sure that that still says, you know, it gives us better than hate a limit 943 01:16:01,780 --> 01:16:07,420 what we're accepting. That's what we can fix it. There you go. Yeah, you can insert screens to prevent 944 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:11,740 Yeah, that was my one point. 945 01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:18,800 And the current accession guidelines to be clear do states that it has to have a part on our toy to elder on a cat. 946 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,400 Let's just put it bold print. 947 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:29,320 Once we have cataloging up and running, we open the possibility of a global audience. 948 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,180 So we have these very unique items to be shared. 949 01:16:34,180 --> 01:16:37,320 and it just completely opens it up to discovery. 950 01:16:38,780 --> 01:16:42,260 I like to a vision statement that's supposed to be 951 01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:44,720 aspirational, producing, and 952 01:16:45,220 --> 01:16:49,260 nationally recognized. I did the same thing, you know, 953 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,360 I was like, well, and you know, 954 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:58,000 one step at a time, but I like it, and with the 955 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,520 library, I mean, we have 956 01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:08,880 with different projects. I mean, that's what we have an open source integrated library system, 957 01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:19,880 not all libraries have. That is actually a hugely beneficial piece and even our branding 958 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:28,240 and our logo. So, dare I say that we have one, we have one of the best public library logos 959 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,300 that I have come across. I mean, as you get out there and look at all of them, 960 01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:39,300 There's, it's, I think we can have that same energy, but there's a lot of me jumping right. 961 01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:40,460 Great. 962 01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:42,360 Well, hard. 963 01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:47,940 A little undercurrent there that I'll just comment on because it's there and we all recognize 964 01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:50,120 it to some greater or less for level. 965 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:55,220 And that is, you know, as we begin to shape our identity, 966 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,920 newly here through a vision statement that it refers to a new vision statement, 967 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:04,280 refreshed mission statement and kind of like, you know, thinking about the 968 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,420 accession policy and maybe had to even tighten that up. It was implied. Yes, 969 01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:13,120 our attention, I'll just put it out there. Our attention will additionally 970 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,680 at some point, not for a while, but for at some point we'll turn to the full 971 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:22,280 collections of the museum that make sure that we really feel like we're not at that 972 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:29,600 point right now. It's just strategic. Yeah. Yeah. We're not at that point. We're not 973 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:36,660 which it is, but even more so, programming, involvement and engagement, everybody's excited about that school, 974 01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:40,420 involvement. You know, it's so many wonderful opportunities to continue to tell stories. 975 01:18:42,740 --> 01:18:49,580 Yes, and elevate the county museum nationally, maybe even, eventually. 976 01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:55,600 Any other reactions positive and negative or otherwise to what you read in the vision statement 977 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,620 of the mission statement. 978 01:19:00,630 --> 01:19:03,650 When do we need to make, we need, like you said, there's a timeline 979 01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:10,910 by us told us. We need to put this out for the public to look at or we ready to do that. 980 01:19:11,490 --> 01:19:17,490 I would suggest that, um, that is exactly to be the perfect segue, um, that it is time to do that. 981 01:19:18,590 --> 01:19:25,250 And more so, even I would suggest that each of us as commissioners, you know, you are each of 982 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:31,170 involved with many different groups across the county and individuals and institutions that 983 01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:35,730 are respected. And, you know, I'd like to ask your help to the degree that you're able to 984 01:19:35,730 --> 01:19:39,670 ask people. Okay, we've got to think of a new business statement, new mission statement here, 985 01:19:39,930 --> 01:19:45,830 it is. What do you think? What do you think? Awareness is, this is important, if you will, as 986 01:19:46,910 --> 01:19:53,210 our role in developing these as a commission. For more that the community broadly is exposed to 987 01:19:53,210 --> 01:19:59,750 hasn't has time to comment on it, but it was to say, I think, yeah, we love it, or to have 988 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:22,780 Feedback, you know, for us, the better, the wrongest is what I was contemplating, such that by September 1st, we've got this shift over to the Board of Supervisors with our recommendation that they, that they, in fact, it's the word I'm looking for here. I'm just accept, but adopt, adopt this. Yeah, interesting. Thank you. 989 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:29,740 And just be sure that I really love community cornerstone, please don't change. 990 01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:30,780 Oh yeah. 991 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:32,920 That's okay. 992 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,800 I'm just going to be a little wet rain cloud on every side. 993 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,840 Not rain cloud. 994 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:40,920 Not rain cloud. 995 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:47,860 But more just expressing the, are we setting ourselves up for people calling us out? 996 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,560 Because on our mission statement, we're, you know, we serve the widely accessible 997 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,860 and collaborative community cars don't really great. 998 01:20:54,860 --> 01:21:00,060 welcoming Boris Dr. Foster and appreciation of providing their routine educational opportunities 999 01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:06,720 through dynamic engagement in person online and through public programming. We are on the open 1000 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:12,220 two days of each year. And are we going to get some pushbacks saying, hey, Colin Sow, you're 1001 01:21:12,220 --> 01:21:17,700 only open two days a week out of that dynamic engagement in person and through public programming. 1002 01:21:17,860 --> 01:21:22,160 What do you have about the program? Yes, we will. And that is a more attention. 1003 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,900 And it is absolutely intentional. 1004 01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:27,360 I want to be on record that, you know, for my part, 1005 01:21:27,380 --> 01:21:30,220 at least in the commission, it's our public duty 1006 01:21:30,220 --> 01:21:33,000 and responsibility to help in every way we can, 1007 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,540 certainly not through just pressuring administration 1008 01:21:35,540 --> 01:21:36,660 to make that happen. 1009 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,580 That's not the reality at all. 1010 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,380 We have to work through our community broadly 1011 01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:44,260 and find ways of supporting together 1012 01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:46,580 the museum and the library system. 1013 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,140 Well, and look where we were in January. 1014 01:21:50,140 --> 01:21:59,980 And what we are now, we're open to the fair, we're going to have catalogues in place, and that is just going to be... 1015 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,240 We're going to take pictures. 1016 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,460 Everything's going to be populated in the exponential break. 1017 01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:16,240 But then think of where, you know, this same pace even five years from now, as more partnerships are built in all these pieces. 1018 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:22,020 I mean, January was not very long ago, and, you know, 1019 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:22,920 so many great things. 1020 01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:27,020 By the way, response to that question is, what are you going to do to help? 1021 01:22:27,740 --> 01:22:31,700 Again, and we're doing everything weekend when can we meet you at the gate? 1022 01:22:32,460 --> 01:22:34,320 Yeah, this is our mission statement. 1023 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,500 This is what we're working for. 1024 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,000 You have suggestions on how we get there. 1025 01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,780 I think you need to be looking where you're going. 1026 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,040 You can't say here's where we are, because that's where you stay. 1027 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,200 And this, this says, we have a direction. 1028 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:54,080 Impested. 1029 01:22:55,460 --> 01:22:59,160 I would like to thank the subcommittee, but also for helping with this. 1030 01:22:59,300 --> 01:23:00,720 Oh, the one more thing I should point out. 1031 01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:02,840 Just to just remember to head. 1032 01:23:02,980 --> 01:23:06,700 We sort of touched on it very briefly, but it deserves for the record to be called out. 1033 01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:09,380 Also, at one point at early version of this, 1034 01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:12,660 very specifically called it the listed even. 1035 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:19,280 I think some of the native tribes that have been in the area or groups that have been in the area. 1036 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:32,080 And that was shortened here, where I think good reason not, because of exclusion, but because we started wanting to add every group and actually started contemplating a lot of additions. 1037 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:40,420 And we realized that's not the path. The better path was to be very clear about inclusion in this statement, these statements. 1038 01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:47,960 and so we tried to do that. I'm certainly open to any suggestions that make it even better, 1039 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:54,800 but I feel like it's something pretty good place. And so I'm trying to find exactly how we 1040 01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:01,380 were to do that here. I'm faded at first. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, presents the diverse stories 1041 01:24:01,380 --> 01:24:07,160 and comprehensive history of El Dorado County, and it should be stated for the record as we're moving 1042 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:12,820 into actually putting this into the place that we do, in fact, in ten, we are not being 1043 01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:13,460 circumspect. 1044 01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:20,240 We tend for this to have that inclusivity and that those stories of all groups and peoples 1045 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:27,100 and times and industries and that all of that actually is a part of what we want to try to 1046 01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:29,120 catcher and respect. 1047 01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:36,450 Okay, let's look at the public, again, and see if there is anybody online that we want 1048 01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:43,510 a comment at this time. Not seeing anybody online, I'll turn to the room, but public represents 1049 01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:46,150 a year, and I'm the additional opponents at this time. 1050 01:24:46,450 --> 01:24:47,910 I think it's great. 1051 01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:59,700 I can see and I know of things that will. 1052 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:14,420 Help. I actually have a copy that was written by a state level, the history of the nurse use in California. 1053 01:25:14,420 --> 01:25:26,600 who was bringing what plants and trees and it's just a wonderful bit of information that 1054 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:36,000 you know that I could share because the growers in the area, you know, they're important 1055 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,640 their part of our history and just like everything around here. It 1056 01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:47,760 should be added in and I think 1057 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,080 the vision statement, the vision statement. Right. 1058 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,140 Well, versions obviously again, we won't just still open for a comment. Please, thank you. Thank 1059 01:26:02,140 --> 01:26:08,520 you all for taking that out. Public as well to anybody you know, when asking them to look at it 1060 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:14,060 and we would love to gather feedback. I did not think to ask how we should gather that feedback 1061 01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:24,600 I didn't intend I'd do it to put more work on to staff for this either, but is there a way if somebody does decide to watch this video and wants the comment or through any of the channels 1062 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,520 helpful media to make sure it is but that there's some feedback received. 1063 01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:29,460 Maybe do that, Sarah? 1064 01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:33,800 On the mission of the agency. 1065 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,400 Can we get better? 1066 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:39,820 Can we have to? 1067 01:26:40,580 --> 01:26:40,740 Good. 1068 01:26:42,460 --> 01:26:45,260 I don't mean to help to further write on options. 1069 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:50,860 around-table discussions with stakeholders, 1070 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,620 surveys, with this piece that I understand 1071 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,600 it, 1072 01:27:00,790 --> 01:27:07,930 the process and exploring and collecting feedback is still appropriate, but with 1073 01:27:07,930 --> 01:27:15,870 other post changes with some of the documents we would need conceptual approval by the board, 1074 01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:17,170 and there's other 1075 01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:23,140 processes and structure, you can consider. 1076 01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:29,210 So besides the survey piece, 1077 01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:31,190 the round table discussion, better. 1078 01:27:33,530 --> 01:27:35,110 Can you be supposed to do the library? 1079 01:27:36,150 --> 01:27:38,830 Library's big, but that's a pretty useful. 1080 01:27:42,260 --> 01:27:43,840 Some of our sites, 1081 01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:47,700 with passive displays, 1082 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:53,000 we get a lot of interaction by the public, 1083 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:58,360 but just putting a crop on a whiteboard, a glass reveal in particular, 1084 01:28:01,170 --> 01:28:04,410 it's surprising how much 1085 01:28:04,410 --> 01:28:10,790 the public will interact with some of those passive displays at a particular location. 1086 01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:19,130 So that would be a way of gaining some kind of micro, kind of input. 1087 01:28:19,130 --> 01:28:19,530 So 1088 01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:25,410 we were working on my Mr. T. Cran, 1089 01:28:25,630 --> 01:28:28,990 who did a council, several times all the time. 1090 01:28:29,610 --> 01:28:31,570 I think that would be 1091 01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:36,160 back what they wanted, 1092 01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:38,840 what do you find in a kind of a video? 1093 01:28:39,300 --> 01:28:39,820 No, no, no. 1094 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,480 So is there a passage for that? 1095 01:28:42,580 --> 01:28:43,160 That sounds wonderful, 1096 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,340 but I really don't want to ask or, 1097 01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:47,700 in a basic liquidity sort of, 1098 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,520 stand up by us or hear it. 1099 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,620 I think passive is okay. 1100 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,140 If we were to set it out, 1101 01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:54,300 survey student or channels, 1102 01:28:54,300 --> 01:29:00,500 but I'd love to do more. That sounds great too, but I differ. Or perhaps posted on the museum's 1103 01:29:00,500 --> 01:29:08,200 landing page, the Google Home, people can fill it out. It's like there. And we're asking for more 1104 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,260 asking for their feedback. 1105 01:29:13,940 --> 01:29:17,560 Yeah. Should we include a definition of what a mission statement is? Yes. 1106 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,020 I think that there is between vision and mission, at least. 1107 01:29:21,460 --> 01:29:24,920 It might help some people to see that national thing go up. 1108 01:29:25,140 --> 01:29:26,440 Oh, it's a goal. 1109 01:29:32,650 --> 01:29:38,590 So we shouldn't at the moment, but to the degree that there may be capacity to do anything of any kind. 1110 01:29:38,930 --> 01:29:43,610 And then certainly for my part, anybody else from the Commission feels strongly like I, you know, I would, 1111 01:29:44,030 --> 01:29:47,730 if there was opportunity to do something in person as well. 1112 01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:48,930 That's great. 1113 01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:53,910 I started to become in staff and help to do that, right, so that there is such a burden on you. 1114 01:29:55,630 --> 01:29:59,950 So, and then I'm taking it out and I encourage every commissioner to do that, too. 1115 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,500 To your friends, you're respected, you know, colleagues who are in the community and involved. 1116 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:14,840 We would like them not only to give feedback but to be aware of this, that we're involving the community and this gives a conversation. 1117 01:30:15,820 --> 01:30:23,000 So that we together, om, this mission statement, the most of them using anything that promotes the museum. 1118 01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,500 Okay, thank you for allowing us to go through that. We already went through public comments. 1119 01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:38,300 We are now at the 25, 10, 68, and we actually don't have a lot of time left to do that 1120 01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:44,040 and the Western Railroad and research group updates and then final comments and then 1121 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:44,520 public forum. 1122 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:45,940 We have sufficient time. 1123 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,100 Why don't we, I would propose to do this, again, this is sort of one of the things we're 1124 01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:57,460 trying to, depending we've now solved for a little bit with an expansion of the consent calendar 1125 01:30:57,460 --> 01:31:03,560 session agenda, probably solves the problem for us in the longer term, but I don't think 1126 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:08,600 we're going to try and necessarily get through all four things. Let's just do one and then we'll 1127 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:14,340 see where we're at and do a second if we feel like we're okay on time. I don't want to cut off the 1128 01:31:14,340 --> 01:31:18,520 Western Railroad or the research room where the Commissioner comments does, so it might be might 1129 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:23,000 just get through one or two of the items of the spreadsheet to keep us on track through a five 1130 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,580 clock, Rapa, does that sound reasonable? 1131 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:31,380 Okay, any projection I should ask, really specifically 1132 01:31:31,380 --> 01:31:38,940 to do so. Okay. Then let's proceed into, with Sean's help here too, and I believe 1133 01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:44,620 they're on the screen also, yes. So let's look at the first item together, and that 1134 01:31:44,620 --> 01:31:50,560 is, oh, the Charles Peter, we've been talking about. Yeah, we've already, right? I'm ready 1135 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:55,540 So, this is a first edition of the Hott of Biography of Charles Peters. 1136 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,920 It was donated by Alex Marshall to the museum. 1137 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,500 It specifically focuses on his time as a plaster painter. 1138 01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:15,580 So, through the 1850s, you can see it was priced at 50 cents when it was published in 1915. 1139 01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:20,850 So, I'm published in Sacramento. 1140 01:32:20,850 --> 01:32:22,410 So great. 1141 01:32:25,390 --> 01:32:30,950 So we were given that first edition cup, it's not an excellent shape, you can see it's a little waterlogged. 1142 01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:33,330 I think I see a coffee mug stain. 1143 01:32:34,970 --> 01:32:37,170 But it is over 100 years old. 1144 01:32:37,650 --> 01:32:40,780 So that's all I have to share on it, sir. 1145 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:41,920 How big is it? 1146 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:47,440 Look about six inches by ten inches. 1147 01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:56,500 That's a good question, maybe with future photos, we'll have something in the reverse scale. 1148 01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:58,940 I thought it was smaller. 1149 01:32:59,860 --> 01:33:00,680 Yeah, it's a design. 1150 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,540 Why won't we accept this? 1151 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:07,500 I second the motion. 1152 01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:10,780 Just real fast I'll add to that. 1153 01:33:11,020 --> 01:33:13,900 I'm just checking online to see available copies. 1154 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,440 There are no available copies online. 1155 01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:24,440 So yeah, so on eight blocks or on, yeah, so this is at least at the moment relatively rare. 1156 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,060 I want you to see it. 1157 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:29,960 I want you to see it. 1158 01:33:30,460 --> 01:33:31,920 It says there's a PDF. 1159 01:33:32,780 --> 01:33:34,580 Right, digital versions are available. 1160 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,760 Well, then I'll end well. 1161 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:44,540 I think I think I'll wait for him to come back just to get sure he's got some cold just a minute on that. 1162 01:33:44,540 --> 01:33:49,980 I don't see any other copies. There's a modern printings that are available in heart cover 1163 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:57,680 and go for $80 as a modern printing. So something, you know, Vittola is not even listed. 1164 01:34:00,590 --> 01:34:00,890 Wow. Great. 1165 01:34:04,170 --> 01:34:07,390 Why don't we go to the second item and then just to keep us going, 1166 01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:10,830 where we've already been, we'll hold on a vote on that one until it's back. 1167 01:34:15,850 --> 01:34:19,750 This one's a bit more. I mean, my concern is he's not in the room, 1168 01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:23,870 and then we begin reviewing something that he also didn't get to weigh in on her. 1169 01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:24,930 Can we answer her? 1170 01:34:25,410 --> 01:34:27,570 We have pictures of each of these things. 1171 01:34:28,290 --> 01:34:30,370 Um, we do, right there. 1172 01:34:31,410 --> 01:34:32,770 There's some photos. 1173 01:34:33,370 --> 01:34:38,330 This was a box, and I wanted to give a little bit more context to it. 1174 01:34:38,490 --> 01:34:40,030 Uh, that we, oh good. 1175 01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:41,230 Thank you. 1176 01:34:43,340 --> 01:34:46,800 We're just at a stage where we're going to vote on that book. 1177 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:55,560 And we also just did a quick research and there's none available online at all at the moment at least. 1178 01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,960 And so the general feeling to individuals already from the Commission has... 1179 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,340 To head, the motion has been made to accept it, and seconded, it would want to bear it to public. 1180 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,360 Oh, yes, yes. Public comment. Exactly. 1181 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,520 Forget the public. Yeah, before we all put that on the second itself. 1182 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,140 Thank you very much for that. 1183 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,060 I'm putting online. How about in the room? 1184 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,400 Any comment on this item's potential for accession? 1185 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:26,000 Yeah, I think it's said, I can't get in the caution if it's great. 1186 01:35:27,380 --> 01:35:28,220 I'd say yes. 1187 01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:34,060 There's a book mentioned Elrodicuni or Plexiglor or anything. 1188 01:35:34,340 --> 01:35:34,720 Look at this. 1189 01:35:34,740 --> 01:35:38,660 Guess is this time in several mining camps, including Plasterville, and it is a Plasterbiner. 1190 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,900 To see which is Plasterbiner, I think. 1191 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:47,600 In a future thing too, I doubt we know the answer to this, but maybe we do. 1192 01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:48,800 He knows it does. 1193 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,700 The library or the museum suggests this already. 1194 01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:55,320 That would be another factor, which I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, regardless 1195 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,980 I do, if we know that right now, I don't think that stops us from. 1196 01:35:57,980 --> 01:36:02,120 voting. We don't happen to know that for like, I'm guessing. Okay, Chris will go 1197 01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,260 into it. Yeah. 1198 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:06,520 So 1199 01:36:09,050 --> 01:36:14,510 far, we don't likely have to relatively small library documented 1200 01:36:14,510 --> 01:36:21,190 at the museums and I do love that logo. It is a really good logo. And you'll notice 1201 01:36:21,190 --> 01:36:25,630 that our open source catalog, which is fully customizable, we have that banner for 1202 01:36:25,630 --> 01:36:29,250 the summer reading challenge. And so when folks search for certain names, 1203 01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:36,050 They, like, historical collections, we can have a bear that pops up and it links to the museum. 1204 01:36:36,230 --> 01:36:36,870 The bear, right? 1205 01:36:37,570 --> 01:36:38,810 The highlighting of certain things. 1206 01:36:38,810 --> 01:36:40,250 We have a lot of something. 1207 01:36:40,630 --> 01:36:41,610 This is on show. 1208 01:36:41,870 --> 01:36:42,150 Yeah. 1209 01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:43,490 It's this rare occasion. 1210 01:36:43,530 --> 01:36:43,790 Yeah. 1211 01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:44,910 It's not really an original. 1212 01:36:45,290 --> 01:36:47,250 Then I read about it. 1213 01:36:47,690 --> 01:36:50,910 I don't necessarily think that stops us from bringing it in. 1214 01:37:00,590 --> 01:37:04,530 And he was primarily in Calibaris and in Amidor counties. 1215 01:37:04,530 --> 01:37:07,970 But he did come through here across the scales of different fields. 1216 01:37:07,970 --> 01:37:10,450 So would you scroll down and click up like what 1217 01:37:31,730 --> 01:37:37,130 it is the ship to your local branch and then you can borrow it 1218 01:37:37,130 --> 01:37:39,430 It's a good train. So just 1219 01:37:40,670 --> 01:37:42,590 I'll use it and close the rare books 1220 01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:49,950 Yeah, I wouldn't think so it depends some libraries will live in certain things that others will not 1221 01:37:49,950 --> 01:37:53,030 Yeah, but it's always it's always worth a shot 1222 01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:04,400 So because this item already exists within the county library system and the original 1223 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:10,360 painting, does that change how the commission feels about accepting this particular 1224 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:11,000 donation? 1225 01:38:15,950 --> 01:38:16,610 I think these are good. 1226 01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,340 All I have to do is to admit you are aware that 1227 01:38:32,900 --> 01:38:35,960 people willing to pay a 1228 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:36,400 crazy amount 1229 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,860 of space amongst the top value. 1230 01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:49,820 The reason I'm saying this and the reason it's relevant is that even though 1231 01:38:49,820 --> 01:38:56,740 we may have another copy. I think it gets a valid question to wonder whether if this copy 1232 01:38:56,740 --> 01:39:03,060 in our position donated to us, we're going to go back out into the public. Does it 1233 01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:11,300 it persist? Will it be as well cared for as preserve, just protected as with us? I would 1234 01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:18,960 argue it's hard to imagine. It's accessible as with us. And I would say we should jump 1235 01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:20,980 that the opportunity to continue to do that 1236 01:39:20,980 --> 01:39:24,580 and make as long as it's accessible, which I'm just carrying on. 1237 01:39:24,860 --> 01:39:28,240 The price of the first, the second edition of it, 1238 01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:30,160 the $80,000 you can find online. 1239 01:39:30,860 --> 01:39:34,360 I guess that's what we've got in our store. 1240 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,120 I would find it unusual to have that. 1241 01:39:37,300 --> 01:39:39,240 I have to pay within the wrong impression, too. 1242 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,620 I didn't mean to say that we should agree about this. 1243 01:39:41,620 --> 01:39:43,020 I was just hearing that it works back. 1244 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,060 That's, I hope I didn't come across that way. 1245 01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:59,960 I really only met, like that people value this for the high dollar value for a reason, and in the case that it didn't fall into the hands of somebody who's got money and caught these types. 1246 01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:12,980 Who would presumably take great care of it, actually, if it happened to fall, somebody who couldn't, you know, or it doesn't have the same ability to protect it, we know we have to do it again times, that's where I was coming. Yeah, okay. 1247 01:40:12,980 --> 01:40:16,880 But you're not for that. I've never had that, but I'm not for that much. 1248 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:18,120 I'm not gonna say it. 1249 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,740 I'm not going to start. 1250 01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:23,580 I'm not sorry, but I'm looking. 1251 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,440 I'm looking call for the book. 1252 01:40:27,050 --> 01:40:29,770 Time to vote. So all in favor? 1253 01:40:30,050 --> 01:40:31,010 I'm not going to be right. 1254 01:40:31,230 --> 01:40:32,830 And he's... 1255 01:40:33,330 --> 01:40:33,770 Unathus. 1256 01:40:35,130 --> 01:40:35,870 Thank you. 1257 01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:37,470 That's just for my confusion. 1258 01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:39,870 You do believe the book is in the museum. 1259 01:40:40,610 --> 01:40:41,370 We do believe it. 1260 01:40:41,770 --> 01:40:42,790 Yes, I do believe it. 1261 01:40:43,070 --> 01:40:45,230 Sorry, I'm not going to be there. 1262 01:40:48,410 --> 01:40:50,490 So it is 441. 1263 01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:51,670 Do we want to continue out? 1264 01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:52,990 This one's huge. 1265 01:40:53,250 --> 01:40:59,150 This has at least 20 items that I would have to describe each one that are within that case. 1266 01:41:00,830 --> 01:41:00,990 So. 1267 01:41:01,330 --> 01:41:01,910 I wouldn't. 1268 01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:03,530 I would ask for a portion. 1269 01:41:03,730 --> 01:41:04,630 No, that's no. 1270 01:41:04,810 --> 01:41:05,370 It's a now. 1271 01:41:05,650 --> 01:41:07,310 Oh, the other item is on the agenda. 1272 01:41:07,610 --> 01:41:08,990 In my opinion, that's nice. 1273 01:41:09,090 --> 01:41:15,210 I make a motion then to move this into our presumably newly adopted process. 1274 01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:22,610 where we're going to have this spreadsheet available to us online and we will review that 1275 01:41:22,610 --> 01:41:24,310 and make it available to the public, additionally, 1276 01:41:26,430 --> 01:41:28,250 so that we can do this pace incredibly. 1277 01:41:30,130 --> 01:41:37,090 Knowing at the end acknowledging that we will add supplemental, please information on the items. 1278 01:41:37,090 --> 01:41:45,950 this isn't really just the particular item as is there's a lot of detail that needs to be added. 1279 01:41:49,340 --> 01:41:51,900 In the objection to moving on in the agenda, 1280 01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:56,820 hence we shall do so to use the program updates, 1281 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:58,540 Elder Water, Westford River. 1282 01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:02,940 But I think you've seen a motion to continue and move this to the new format. 1283 01:42:03,220 --> 01:42:05,900 Why did I guess I didn't follow the formality of that? 1284 01:42:07,580 --> 01:42:09,460 You did ask for discussion. 1285 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,760 Here's what we can use a consensus vote. 1286 01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:19,140 All right, if you make a motion and there's no discussion, then you're assuming everybody's 1287 01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:23,140 going okay, because otherwise somebody said, well, wait, we need to talk about this some more. 1288 01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,200 So you can take a consensus vote and that can move the agenda. 1289 01:42:27,420 --> 01:42:29,360 So here we are looking at limited time. 1290 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,340 We can't do that at these items, but if you don't, if 1291 01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:38,090 this has to be voted on, if you 1292 01:42:38,090 --> 01:42:43,650 in a motion within the meeting here say what's the meeting's already right research that too 1293 01:42:43,650 --> 01:42:55,350 but the moment change I think I looked at it at the counter. Okay so for the moment 1294 01:42:55,350 --> 01:43:01,090 at least we were just follow our process there I did I made a motion did I go through public 1295 01:43:01,090 --> 01:43:06,550 comment I guess not is there any public comment on this at this time yeah that's large 1296 01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:14,990 collection that needs to be discussed. Thank you. Okay. Do I have a second? I second. All in favor. 1297 01:43:15,690 --> 01:43:24,860 I have a time. Any nice. Moving on to, I'll rather I was familiar. Thank you. The 1298 01:43:24,860 --> 01:43:33,040 summer has been kind to us. The temperatures have been warm, but not cold. The ridership has been 1299 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:39,680 maximizing both the Schingel and El Dorado, including the 12 o'clock noon and the 1300 01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:44,320 one o'clock at the noon runs, which tended to fall up and hotter periods of time. 1301 01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:52,240 So our train master and crew are very surprised and impressed and thankful, and so the program 1302 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:58,820 has been maximizing with the yellow cars, which we call them, the tracking anchors. 1303 01:43:58,820 --> 01:44:05,600 We also are now moving quite close just having the first run of the full site as equipment. 1304 01:44:06,260 --> 01:44:11,800 We're going to have a rehearsal run, I think, a week from tomorrow. 1305 01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:19,400 We're having some volunteers and family and friends on board to act as light loads, 1306 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,800 and that will be our dress down in preparation for it. 1307 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,460 and August having the first pre-announced P.R. 1308 01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:31,740 Saturday, two runs with the full size equipment 1309 01:44:31,740 --> 01:44:34,740 in Melbourne, 02, very fat road and back. 1310 01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:40,320 I think that run times would be probably 10 and 12, 30, 1311 01:44:40,580 --> 01:44:41,160 I'm Saturday. 1312 01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:44,540 Again, this isn't working progress, 1313 01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:46,300 but we're very, very close. 1314 01:44:47,740 --> 01:44:51,960 And I believe that it's time that we get out there 1315 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:56,940 show that folks that they have other opportunities to ride with us and riding on the full 1316 01:44:56,940 --> 01:44:59,340 sidestop is different than a smaller corner. 1317 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,520 But anyway, 1318 01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:13,140 we have had a wonderful, supportive, major by the Eagle Scouts and they've been several 1319 01:45:13,140 --> 01:45:17,700 men working on special projects. I think I may have mentioned that one of them replaced the hard 1320 01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:27,600 maple, or marked maple, would flooring in the 65-10 locomotive of Schengel. And he and his father 1321 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:32,120 then also provided a sustaining donation to the organization. 1322 01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:36,540 So we look forward to a active relationship 1323 01:45:36,540 --> 01:45:37,980 with the Eagle Scout Program. 1324 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:43,380 So for it, we are impacted discussions 1325 01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:47,680 with the County regarding property tax on the building 1326 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,120 at Schengel, the freight shed, if you will. 1327 01:45:51,180 --> 01:45:53,180 The property belongs to joint powers. 1328 01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:54,540 It's the corridor. 1329 01:45:54,540 --> 01:46:06,160 But the building was donated to us as a rare rate foundation for tax purposes and it worked out very well except that the county is saying a wait a minute. 1330 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:14,360 You guys are not in profit, but you have a proprietary coffee program working in the building and they're paying you rent. 1331 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:18,600 So, you have to pay property tax on the building. 1332 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,700 So, we're trying to come to some of what the remit 1333 01:46:21,700 --> 01:46:25,460 as to, since we're a public benefit, not profit, 1334 01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:30,380 volunteer trips, and we're just using the money that we receive from 1335 01:46:30,380 --> 01:46:32,900 the rent of the building to pay our insurance premium. 1336 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,620 So, we can give rise. 1337 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,800 So, we're in the middle of this entire Rubik's Cube, 1338 01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,820 and I'm not quite sure, I think we will have to just accept 1339 01:46:42,820 --> 01:46:51,360 property taxation. But we are working now with the new risk manager to see if there's any chance 1340 01:46:51,360 --> 01:47:00,600 we can be immersed into the overall county liability insurance umbrella, which is huge. And we're over 1341 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:12,720 here in this little pebble of operation, but that 11, 12,000 a year, that is a serious infringement 1342 01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:17,780 our ability to develop programs because all we're doing is paying the insurance premium. 1343 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:24,820 So anyway, those things are going on and we have a good strong cadre of volunteers 1344 01:47:25,780 --> 01:47:31,140 and one of our young men was with us several years ago and then he went off to the 1345 01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:38,920 Wyoming and became a diesel technician. He's back and he's now a diesel technician for us 1346 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,980 along with having a key to employment elsewhere for himself. 1347 01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:49,140 But he's now probably going to be the inaugural engineer on the big train run 1348 01:47:49,140 --> 01:47:52,500 and not the August, he has good skills. 1349 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:57,000 So we're doing good, even though it's the hot days of summer 1350 01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:02,160 and the people are still coming out and riding and we're very thankful. 1351 01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,360 So we'll continue and see you guys on the train. 1352 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,660 What are you talking about? 1353 01:48:09,660 --> 01:48:10,020 Are you talking public? 1354 01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:16,020 There are any comments from the commissioners for questions. 1355 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,700 Well, turn to public comments. 1356 01:48:19,060 --> 01:48:19,860 Nobody online. 1357 01:48:20,020 --> 01:48:20,960 How about isn't it worth? 1358 01:48:22,060 --> 01:48:23,940 So what if you're doing that? 1359 01:48:24,820 --> 01:48:25,580 I'm not sure. 1360 01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:27,840 I'm not sure. 1361 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:28,240 I just assume. 1362 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:29,400 I have not seen that. 1363 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:30,360 I assume it's a large. 1364 01:48:30,940 --> 01:48:31,100 Thank you. 1365 01:48:31,820 --> 01:48:32,060 Cool. 1366 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:33,440 Thank you. 1367 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:40,820 Good booths is 1941 Southern Pacific people look at booths and in fact you're gaining 1368 01:48:40,820 --> 01:48:45,460 doctor-wise if you run into a stage coach from Mugwag and around a class ago I think 1369 01:48:45,460 --> 01:48:51,720 I heard a younger he was a young breakman in the 1960s and that very booths I heard that 1370 01:48:53,020 --> 01:49:03,420 and anyway so that's the booths and then we have a 1929 US Army flatcar that was in the 1371 01:49:03,420 --> 01:49:07,820 we hold some of the patents tanks around them for a while along with a lot of other 1372 01:49:07,820 --> 01:49:12,560 flatcards, but the nice thing is they don't get used very much in the 1373 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:18,020 illiterate service. They set up sightings most terrible. So our excursion car with a 1374 01:49:18,020 --> 01:49:26,220 half roof, nice seats, safety gates, and chains, and so on. That's 1929 flatcard. 1375 01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:32,300 The locomotive we're going to be using is an 1810 Plymouth switch engine. It's our 1376 01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:38,580 smallest locomotive actually, but it is, it has the newest diesel engine in it, and I think 1377 01:49:38,580 --> 01:49:44,900 that's 1953. Anyway, that was donated to us by certain T-corporation from Chuck 1378 01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:51,860 Charlotte, California. We have the two larger diesels, which will be incorporated, but 1379 01:49:51,860 --> 01:49:57,260 they're both a shingle, and we cannot move them to El Dorado, because they would wrestle 1380 01:49:57,260 --> 01:49:59,440 with the overall y needs some repair. 1381 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,720 We're working with county and the JPA to try to see how to get those repairs fine hats to the 1382 01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:11,680 trestles. You know, the heavier locomotives can roll home. 1383 01:50:13,060 --> 01:50:22,420 I just want you out to wear. Be comfortable. You can wear bribal rolls and a blue shambry shirt and 1384 01:50:22,420 --> 01:50:27,700 a pair of boots and they'll put you to work breaking on the train. Or you can just come 1385 01:50:27,700 --> 01:50:32,660 is comfortably well and sit down in a nice seat underneath the roof so there's no sun 1386 01:50:32,660 --> 01:50:37,380 right beating down on your head and just lean back and relax and listen to the train 1387 01:50:37,380 --> 01:50:42,640 and the track and be prepared to wave it people at the crossings because that's your duty 1388 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:43,520 if you're on the train. 1389 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:44,440 You got to wave it down. 1390 01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,200 Is there going to be wave that you? 1391 01:50:48,810 --> 01:50:52,190 Anyway, you sure it feels good to have that if I did a bunch of Marshalls there for you. 1392 01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:56,710 Yeah, yeah, we have it for a good but you know earlier but that's okay. 1393 01:50:56,710 --> 01:51:01,670 No, that's fine. Anyway, so things are things even given the heat of summer. 1394 01:51:02,770 --> 01:51:06,110 It's been productive and we're staying for a week until this week. 1395 01:51:07,550 --> 01:51:07,570 Yeah. 1396 01:51:07,570 --> 01:51:10,990 On a road a few weeks back, and there was so many people. 1397 01:51:11,810 --> 01:51:16,710 We actually came up our tickets to a young couple that they're kids, you know, because the kids, I mean, 1398 01:51:17,490 --> 01:51:17,550 Yeah. 1399 01:51:17,570 --> 01:51:17,890 So sure. 1400 01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:18,150 So sure. 1401 01:51:18,150 --> 01:51:18,250 So sure. 1402 01:51:18,410 --> 01:51:19,510 So sure. 1403 01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:22,310 where you had El Dorado or at Schengel, Schengel, Schengel, 1404 01:51:22,930 --> 01:51:22,950 OK. 1405 01:51:23,490 --> 01:51:24,970 That's still a longer than two runs. 1406 01:51:25,690 --> 01:51:28,090 And it goes up and it goes right around by the freeway, 1407 01:51:28,650 --> 01:51:31,090 and in through what was the only tunnel on that right at road. 1408 01:51:31,870 --> 01:51:34,350 And so, both of those runs, 1409 01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:37,390 we work to interpret and provide, 1410 01:51:37,670 --> 01:51:40,010 you know, stylized information for. 1411 01:51:40,610 --> 01:51:43,550 And I think they're both pleasant, although the El Dorado 1412 01:51:43,550 --> 01:51:45,550 run is, because they're a bit shorter. 1413 01:51:47,170 --> 01:51:47,950 Thank you for that. 1414 01:51:47,950 --> 01:51:49,410 It's very positive. 1415 01:51:50,770 --> 01:51:53,410 Okay, we'll move next to the research route. 1416 01:51:53,550 --> 01:51:54,450 I don't know who might move. 1417 01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:56,390 That looks like a race. 1418 01:51:56,850 --> 01:51:57,730 I think he's our character. 1419 01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:58,970 Okay. 1420 01:51:59,630 --> 01:52:00,310 Oh, research route. 1421 01:52:01,310 --> 01:52:01,790 Do you tell? 1422 01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:07,950 So the research route is... 1423 01:52:08,690 --> 01:52:10,150 We had our song opening. 1424 01:52:10,690 --> 01:52:14,950 We are officially open on Thursdays. 1425 01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:21,390 the place, from trouble to four, see what else 1426 01:52:21,390 --> 01:52:22,190 probably we're going to take. 1427 01:52:22,210 --> 01:52:24,790 And, first, of point because I can 1428 01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:26,690 have someone to say, 1429 01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:29,670 first is the four, the diem, four lasts, 1430 01:52:29,970 --> 01:52:34,040 so it actually gets paid and 1431 01:52:34,620 --> 01:52:37,680 chose to do arrested talking on a baby Hassos. 1432 01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:42,140 Yeah, I've seen, or we've had 1433 01:52:43,180 --> 01:52:47,400 an additional increase come through email. 1434 01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:52,100 And so I think we'll, I mean, we'll definitely see an increase at a 1435 01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:56,340 verb time, but as far as, yeah, soft dopamine, and that's been, 1436 01:52:56,580 --> 01:52:59,000 basically that scroll's great to have in the museum open. 1437 01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:05,020 Two days a week, and as we continue to move forward, they'll be additional 1438 01:53:05,020 --> 01:53:10,780 opportunities to promote on social and through other channels. 1439 01:53:10,780 --> 01:53:10,980 So 1440 01:53:14,660 --> 01:53:16,560 we think it was Kelly. 1441 01:53:17,740 --> 01:53:19,740 How many questions do you think we're 1442 01:53:22,490 --> 01:53:22,490 going to be? 1443 01:53:22,690 --> 01:53:25,230 I don't know, I don't know, I think we're going to be there. 1444 01:53:25,330 --> 01:53:28,270 I just said, wait, then we got a lot of research requests 1445 01:53:28,270 --> 01:53:31,250 during the fair and after the fair. 1446 01:53:32,710 --> 01:53:33,590 So we're going to be fine. 1447 01:53:34,570 --> 01:53:38,250 But I think, well, it was overwhelming. 1448 01:53:38,370 --> 01:53:41,110 It was overwhelming, but it wrote it to both. 1449 01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:43,890 And I was playing with the next one. 1450 01:53:47,090 --> 01:53:49,610 through being open again and the stuff, 1451 01:53:49,790 --> 01:53:51,790 honest from permission to draw it like you're at that. 1452 01:53:52,090 --> 01:53:56,150 So happy to see that accessible and see the demand 1453 01:53:56,150 --> 01:53:58,370 is obviously still there for it, just not 1454 01:53:58,370 --> 01:54:03,030 scoring importance of supporting that. 1455 01:54:03,110 --> 01:54:06,150 Are there any other comments to add at this time 1456 01:54:06,150 --> 01:54:07,630 from the commission from 1457 01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:10,640 the public, 1458 01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,200 no need online, how about in the room, 1459 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:14,800 Jerry representing the public again? 1460 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,880 But I think it's one more research room, 1461 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,120 which is which I had and the history in the area. 1462 01:54:26,500 --> 01:54:32,760 I do, because I have ordered microfeature from the U.S.S. Bay Archives in Canada. 1463 01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:39,100 I have them sent through the library, the library, and I can sit at a computer and look at things that go, 1464 01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:43,100 oh my gosh, the library and go, what do you find there? 1465 01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:52,840 So, a research route is amazing. It's such a good thing to have. And yeah, can't we? 1466 01:54:56,740 --> 01:54:59,960 Okay, we're going to move to Commissioner comments that is open. 1467 01:55:00,340 --> 01:55:05,300 At this time, for any additional comments that any commissioner may wish to make? 1468 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:16,980 Well, I think all of you have the opportunity to go through the museum before we started, or we should come back again. 1469 01:55:22,090 --> 01:55:23,370 Plan to be there on Saturday. 1470 01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:27,130 Come in tomorrow morning. 1471 01:55:27,550 --> 01:55:28,010 Yeah, it's tomorrow. 1472 01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:38,180 And we can accommodate visits throughout the week as well, so feel free to reach out. 1473 01:55:38,910 --> 01:55:43,510 They know that there's rules around being a commission. 1474 01:55:45,590 --> 01:55:48,750 So if there's a particular day and kind of works best for you, 1475 01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:50,350 you can just reach out to me directly. 1476 01:55:51,710 --> 01:55:52,690 Thank you very much. 1477 01:55:53,650 --> 01:55:54,710 Just can't talk. 1478 01:55:54,710 --> 01:56:00,510 So, that's interesting. So they couldn't, they're all couldn't cover good things. 1479 01:56:02,010 --> 01:56:04,850 From my understanding and the discussed commission. 1480 01:56:05,630 --> 01:56:07,890 I don't think it gives that any reason. 1481 01:56:08,730 --> 01:56:10,030 As a conversation. 1482 01:56:11,130 --> 01:56:13,510 Yeah, there's various rules around all of that. 1483 01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:20,770 That's why with the visit right before we open and viewing the space. 1484 01:56:22,050 --> 01:56:23,090 be a 1485 01:56:26,930 --> 01:56:31,510 segment more than two commissioners at a time. 1486 01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,140 Either events coming up that we want to just comment on for public 1487 01:56:36,140 --> 01:56:37,640 either a camera member, honestly. 1488 01:56:38,060 --> 01:56:40,800 Things related to any of your other groups. 1489 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,740 The commissioners may want to share that maybe related to history or 1490 01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:45,240 historical museum or otherwise. 1491 01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,540 Historical Society has a historic built, 1492 01:56:49,820 --> 01:56:55,780 fiber arts and textile show that will be taking place at 1493 01:56:55,780 --> 01:57:05,940 I won five Main Street, the store post office building in Plasterville on all day, on July 1494 01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:13,640 19th, and the found in Talman Museum has on long from the County Museum. 1495 01:57:14,300 --> 01:57:25,620 Some historical quilts and I believe dresses, next styles that will be on display at the 1496 01:57:25,620 --> 01:57:34,420 and attend the show, there is going to be all kinds of activities, live demonstrations, and that will be very exciting. 1497 01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:46,340 And then on the 25th of July, at the Larson Family Park, will be the Alberta County Historical Society's Summer Luncheon. 1498 01:57:46,340 --> 01:57:55,320 It is members only, but you can always join the Society and the Larson Family has been gracious enough to open up their park. 1499 01:57:55,320 --> 01:58:03,280 There will be a book talk from author Maggie Gorrell who will be, she's coming from South 1500 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:09,640 Lake Tahoe, her neighborhood Tahoe Meadows is on the National Register and she wrote a book 1501 01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:21,880 about it and it's a very protected and well-preserved public land and so she'll be giving 1502 01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:31,320 us up full 100 year history, the homesteaders who originally built cabins there, that'll be the keynote speaker, so that's what's upcoming. 1503 01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:41,060 The Oregon California Trail Association on Sunday, Sunday, the 20th of the day after that. 1504 01:58:41,060 --> 01:58:41,920 What's up? 1505 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,420 Attaining a hike on Holly Gray, going all the way down, 1506 01:58:45,540 --> 01:58:53,260 you know, for Michael Summary, to pursue the fun Christmas Valley. 1507 01:58:54,260 --> 01:58:57,400 And we did it last year, and it's really exciting. 1508 01:58:59,180 --> 01:59:01,260 Gerald, you're presiding at the back of the team. 1509 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:02,340 Oh, wonderful. 1510 01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:03,660 I have a table. 1511 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:05,080 On that's right. 1512 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:06,940 I'm not organizing this. 1513 01:59:07,140 --> 01:59:07,820 OK, yeah. 1514 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:09,160 I have a table there. 1515 01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:16,160 Now, you're going to have some I have an anti-covered lid and all these things that show different. 1516 01:59:17,780 --> 01:59:18,220 Okay, thank 1517 01:59:22,060 --> 01:59:22,280 you. 1518 01:59:22,300 --> 01:59:28,160 If you haven't seen that building recently 515 the start building there, it's worth going in. 1519 01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:33,580 Again, if you haven't been in a while, it is in the process of some renovation and restoration. 1520 01:59:33,860 --> 01:59:34,340 Restoration. 1521 01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:35,000 Thank you. 1522 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:36,080 She's the right word. 1523 01:59:36,300 --> 01:59:36,920 They're restoration. 1524 01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:38,980 It's impressive. 1525 01:59:38,980 --> 01:59:49,470 And if you go to our same park, rumor has it that one of the oldest apple trees in the 1526 01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:52,510 county, for you to decide. 1527 01:59:53,610 --> 01:59:54,510 That's the word. 1528 01:59:56,270 --> 01:59:58,850 That's because you can keep saying that. 1529 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,200 And really encourage people, really encourage people to make the third Saturdays, as the downtown merchants are trying to preserve the history, as we're not getting any help from the city fathers economically, making it more difficult to do things downtown. We try and really hard to keep our history out of front. 1530 02:00:30,260 --> 02:00:32,440 You're part of this merchant's group, right? 1531 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,700 Well, my gallery is... 1532 02:00:34,700 --> 02:00:37,560 I don't know, that's original, I don't know. 1533 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,280 You talk with these guys that went to charge you, 1534 02:00:40,340 --> 02:00:44,600 they're really working at old-time family events 1535 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,900 happening downtown and trying to preserve that. 1536 02:00:49,660 --> 02:00:51,940 And we have to have people showing up to make that work. 1537 02:00:53,620 --> 02:00:55,100 Right? Just like a real... 1538 02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:55,620 Yes, sir. 1539 02:00:55,980 --> 02:00:57,880 Have the wrap up laughing? I just want to ask 1540 02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:05,100 is on fairer last comments, either from the public, from staff, anybody else's last comments? 1541 02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:10,760 Okay, great meeting, lots of that we covered. Thank you for it and you're going to get that list. 1542 02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:15,440 It's a point of the various items that we'll have this commissioners that you'll want to review 1543 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:21,680 in between and please take the provision and mission statement to it to you everywhere you go. 1544 02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:26,520 and ask people, what do you think and bring that feedback back 1545 02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:30,060 what you use, you know, your conversations so that we can talk about that next month again. 1546 02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:31,540 Thank you. Thank you all. 1547 02:01:31,740 --> 02:01:32,000 Thank you all. 1548 02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:34,680 We heard George. 1549 02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:35,640 We'll be sitting. 1550 02:01:35,940 --> 02:01:37,040 No, I'm sitting. Let's go back. 1551 02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:38,480 Good to see you. 1552 02:01:39,380 --> 02:01:39,700 Yeah, sit.