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[0:06] We all face Washington DC.
[0:19] We're looking for a flag.
[0:21] Oh,
[0:26] I'm going downstairs to get a flag.
[0:31] There's one on the pole out front.
[0:35] We only pull one on the screen.
[0:37] That's what I was going to ask since we don't have a flag in the room that appears.
[0:49] That's going on. We'll call everybody to order the meeting to order.
[0:52] I'll come everybody. Good to see you. Thank you for being here.
[0:58] We're obviously in a new room today and a pretty good room.
[1:02] I kind of like this one.
[1:04] I guess if we had a big turnout, we would be a little harder, but this is not a big turnout
[1:10] right now.
[1:11] So, very comfortable screens.
[1:13] We will be in, yes, $475, American flag there, a stand that is at $15, 25 feet, 25 feet.
[1:38] Thank you everybody. Okay, we'll begin and jump into our consent calendar. Today 25119 eight minutes from the meeting on June the 6th our last meeting together as everybody had a chance to review and is their motion.
[1:54] to any changes need at this time.
[2:00] I did review it.
[2:01] Good.
[2:03] Moving accepted as presented.
[2:05] Excellent.
[2:07] I want to do the four maladies.
[2:08] You're about a second for that.
[2:09] Second.
[2:10] Thank you, Keen.
[2:12] And I don't think we have any study online, but I still need to ask.
[2:15] I can't remember.
[2:16] No, right.
[2:18] No public comments.
[2:19] Any public comment throughs in the room.
[2:21] So I won't be able to do much with that.
[2:22] And this meeting was somebody turns up.
[2:24] Okay, all in favor of passing the accepting the minutes from June 6th.
[2:31] All right.
[2:32] Any news?
[2:36] It's moving on then.
[2:38] We have our next item, 25, 12, 29.
[2:42] Our report from Director of Library Services.
[2:47] Price.
[2:47] Price level.
[2:48] Library director.
[2:49] Just a few things to share.
[2:51] First, then we're on county fair.
[2:53] It was very successful.
[2:56] It's the museum has that been opened during the fair.
[2:59] for at least a few years.
[3:01] We had about 1,500 people come through.
[3:05] And there's also collected a good amount of data
[3:09] and staff and volunteers have some ideas of how
[3:13] to make the operation even smoother and advertised
[3:16] further during the fair event.
[3:19] But it was very successful.
[3:20] Thank you to staff and volunteers.
[3:24] I even went through not trying to be in the skies,
[3:27] but with my kiddos.
[3:28] And Jill greeted us and did a great job of demonstrating the piano and copy attention of my teenager, which is not an easy thing to do.
[3:39] So, hats off to Jill, great job.
[3:42] And all of our volunteers have a staff that helped her in the fair.
[3:47] It's great to have those research room doors back open as well.
[3:52] It's a very beautiful,
[3:56] beautiful word inviting to have those.
[4:00] And speaking of the research room, so it is officially open on Spurs Days from 12 until 4.
[4:10] That's been listed on the website.
[4:15] And it was more of a soft opening that first and then will continue to advertise.
[4:20] But our goal of being open two days a week, we're able to achieve that.
[4:26] it's staff and we've fought here so thank you again a lot of progress has been made a short
[4:32] amount of time. The third item there, Elbrotto County Board of Supervisors Policy F3, this is
[4:41] actually the end-pricilbrotto on the screen. If you can scroll back up to the top for a quick quick.
[4:50] This is the Elbrotto County Library and historical museum behavior policy and this has
[4:56] uh... been in effect
[4:59] um... just don't
[5:00] For a year, and it was created with the intent of ensuring that we have welcoming and inviting spaces. So, if someone's behavior made it to where it was not an inviting space for all, this works as a gradient and a power staff to take action.
[5:21] and it's not just for the phone library but also the museum as part of the same
[5:28] or as our department you'll receive the new theme.
[5:32] And so I just wanted everybody to be familiar with it, knowing that it exists,
[5:37] there was a presentation that I provided to the electronic board of supervisors
[5:42] one year update related to this policy and just showing the statistics and how we have used it
[5:50] system-wide, so throughout our libraries, our six libraries, and we have a lot of people coming
[5:57] through our doors.
[5:59] There's actually, comparatively, very few times that we use this to a certain degree.
[6:09] So sometimes it's just making the public belating the note that, you know, they might be unaware
[6:16] that, hey, this activity that's, you know, behavior policy in place and so that's actually not
[6:22] allowed in the space and then if things were to progress then maybe somebody that's to leave for
[6:30] the day and with something maybe a little more rare say somebody pushed over a display rack of items
[6:38] or something like that then they would be restricted for a period of time and that could be up to a
[6:44] So we have this in place to empower staff and ensure that all of our spaces continue to be welcoming.
[6:52] And in earlier this year there was a presentation to the board.
[6:56] So if you want to dig in deeper and view that feel free.
[7:00] But policy, when it was created, it took a lot of factors.
[7:06] A lot of factors were considered.
[7:09] And we borrowed from policies,
[7:14] large libraries, rural libraries, there was a spectrum of data collected to craft this, and it's proving to be very effective.
[7:27] I don't number four, Library Funding and Sustainability at Hawk Committee.
[7:34] This was created by the Board of Supervisors, actually granted the same meeting where the presentation
[7:42] was given related to the help date of the Behavior Policy, it was proposed that a funding
[7:49] and systems will be ad hoc, be created and that committee was created and there's been
[7:57] a few meetings and later this year there will be a clear direction on the path forward and
[8:12] related to some of these pieces of particular to the measures that are coming up. So we
[8:20] have self-liberate, so a parcel tax that is expiring. And then we also have the Georgetown
[8:30] Library, the same situation, a parcel tax is expiring. So that was one of the reasons
[8:36] that this was posed, but with any funding discussions and potential mechanisms that are
[8:45] pushed to place in the future, I also wanted to bring them awareness to that since the
[8:52] library of course is connected to the museum. So more updates on that probably in the next
[8:59] and months or so. And then the fifth item there. So I know it's been mentioned previous meetings,
[9:08] we're exploring the software catalog it, we're able to session and de-assession and have
[9:17] an online catalog accessible to everybody. Anyone with internet access, we can put our artifacts
[9:28] And then we can do all sorts of different types of scans and metadata around it,
[9:33] really spectacular product.
[9:36] We've worked in the background with IT and some of the county processes and things
[9:40] continue to move forward.
[9:44] And we should have this product in place within the next two months or so.
[9:51] And it'll
[9:56] be fantastic to have this in place as far as marketing and remote.
[10:00] And preservation, you'll have a digital record of items at the museum. And we are doing a research and it's requested for us to export inventory lists. It will export in a PDF or other similar format. And it will have all the information listed, including photos. And we can export content with just a few clicks.
[10:28] There's already a bit of bugs in the community around some of the items that we have
[10:35] in sharing these, and then the community being able to explore on their own, all the wonderful
[10:40] things that we have at the museum, and I've mentioned in the past our digital collection of photographs,
[10:48] And there's about 30,000 of those.
[10:56] And so, as we can do in the form of this,
[10:58] likely what we'll do it is we'll input into that database,
[11:04] a handful of our most exciting items,
[11:11] determined by staff and volunteers,
[11:13] and then we'll focus on certain areas.
[11:16] But at first, we'll likely populate with some of those items that have the most resonate
[11:24] most with the community in generating excitement.
[11:30] But in the next two months, that should be in place, as far as I saw, we're going to start
[11:33] populating that database.
[11:39] That's all the items I have, what are you going to report today?
[11:44] I don't think the question is in it.
[11:47] Absolutely.
[11:47] Okay.
[11:48] Are there any questions from the commissioners?
[11:50] I'm curious.
[11:51] I don't see on the agenda anything about the other member doing that on the commission.
[11:57] Excuse me.
[11:58] Just got that last time.
[11:59] What was it?
[12:00] On the floor.
[12:02] And we both are people.
[12:03] That's fantastic.
[12:04] We voted.
[12:06] It's pending.
[12:07] I was going to add that question too.
[12:08] I think it was pending with the supervisor.
[12:11] And so I was also going to ask if you had heard anything back about their review of that
[12:15] scanner.
[12:15] Totally.
[12:17] So I don't have any updates on that just yet.
[12:24] So, but hopefully, we ask if they're aware of that individual's candidacy at this time
[12:29] and it's just that they're waiting for it or it does that still need to happen to date.
[12:34] So they are aware, but as far as next steps, that process has not gone very far.
[12:43] So I would be possible to send out and update, I hate to wait another month, but maybe
[12:49] that has to be done, that's certainly up to the supervisors to note, I'm thinking of
[12:54] that individual, possibly feeling like they're waiting on us and I want that either,
[12:58] especially if we are a desireist and they're qualified, don't let me take the words out of your
[13:03] mouth.
[13:03] Yeah.
[13:04] Okay.
[13:05] And as I recall, it means it's still open there, right?
[13:11] So there could be another candidate while we're waiting.
[13:15] Let me check into some of the details with this.
[13:24] Let me go ahead and do that else in and update out.
[13:30] I think it's still posted.
[13:34] But of course, we need that process started.
[13:39] We improved the candidate as a commission,
[13:42] which you're saying so that it goes to the.
[13:46] Good.
[13:47] So in my correct, we have not met the gentleman in the individual.
[13:55] So we're on the verge of sending blindly a candidate for commissioner to the supervisors
[14:00] that none of us would know if we saw him on the screen.
[14:04] The way Liz presented to us, yes.
[14:08] We need your help.
[14:10] But the application process for my understanding is, or certain personal information is
[14:21] adapted, and then you're correct in, I don't know if anybody has spent that person
[14:28] in your life.
[14:30] We'll continue moving that in the process.
[14:32] The information we do have, not to take away from the very ballot point that you've made, though it is pretty positive, not quite a bit of experience.
[14:44] Yeah, and also, yeah, it's so exciting to have this kind of a role that we don't know.
[14:49] I just think we do have more responsible, we've presented it as proposal for a new commissioner if we at least met the individual room.
[15:00] That's the way it has been in the past. So, the sooner it would know that we're active in.
[15:06] I'll be the one to say I'll have to, whether it would affect us or not, we sort of would like to believe it wouldn't.
[15:14] But I think the intent of a blind process is to help ensure that there is no chance or a minimization of chance, bias, whether we're aware that bias or not.
[15:28] So that may be a reason why.
[15:32] I'm not saying I agree with that.
[15:34] For saying like that aspect of it,
[15:35] but it's a hindrance to us that we don't actually need the person to agree with that.
[15:40] We have to admit we certainly have no bias.
[15:42] We don't know.
[15:43] We don't know.
[15:44] Which is that time.
[15:46] We can't recognize him if he's in the room.
[15:48] We don't know if he's in the room.
[15:48] I think he proves that when they let me in.
[15:53] Yes, we're trying to learn it.
[15:55] No.
[15:56] Okay.
[15:58] And I move my seat.
[16:02] Okay, so I'll jump back into this and say thank you very much, Bryce, for the updates on that, and for following up just to see kind of where that's at.
[16:09] We are at Desiris of having the board filled the Commissioner Bill for Outer.
[16:15] And that individual was invited to be previous meet.
[16:23] Next, as far as I know they're
[16:32] there.
[16:32] Second question for you, possibly first I'll turn to the commissioners any other questions.
[16:39] I have a second then which would be just a curiosity policy of three.
[16:43] Thank you for sharing that with us.
[16:45] And that's helpful to understand that that policy exists just in case we may ever be in a position to help.
[16:53] And unfortunately in a position where we need to invoke it or to let others know,
[16:57] remind others that it exists. Has it in last year actually been invoked beyond that first level
[17:03] without specificity, but somebody's been far from attending, for example, for a year?
[17:09] Yes. And that was shared in presentations with the board. So from what I
[17:20] give you approximate numbers, it was utilized roughly 50 times a while within a year throughout the
[17:26] system, but it is structured as a grading gradient.
[17:29] So some of those interactions could be something as casual as, I mean, so of our sites
[17:36] are right next to schools, so maybe a middle schooler decides to ride their scooter to
[17:41] the library.
[17:42] And so it could be that, you know, that is mentioned, you know, you might not be aware
[17:47] of her policy, but we don't allow scooters in the library.
[17:49] So, can't write it here, and then maybe the individual rides the scooter again, and so it'd
[17:57] be something that I mentioned earlier about the behavior policy and the scooter and behavior
[18:02] or the expectations around that, so I'm going to have to ask you leave for the day, but we'll
[18:07] see you tomorrow. It could be something that is casual as that, but it really is a great hand.
[18:14] So, at one of our sites, there were two people that decided to engage in a physical fight,
[18:21] and that is not allowed, that is not conducive of a well-known space.
[18:26] So, that's an example of being suspended during the year.
[18:32] Thank you. I'm curious if that policy was evolving,
[18:37] probably not, obviously, it's unclearly as obvious, yes.
[18:41] And it would likely be a hard press to find a library
[18:45] system, urban or rural that does not have some form
[18:49] of a behavior policy.
[18:51] And two and a half years ago, we did not have a policy.
[18:57] And it's intent is to make a welcoming space for all.
[19:02] And most of our patrons absolutely follow this policy every time that their actions are aligned
[19:14] with a policy.
[19:16] During all of their visits, it's just the realization that one person's choice and activity
[19:23] can make the space less desirable to everyone, and that's not acceptable because these
[19:32] the situation at the front doors for the library regarding unfortunate and homeless people
[19:38] who have had a beta is that historical thing now. I know some years a couple of years ago
[19:44] they seem like they were. A few guys sleeping on the front steps in the library at the morning
[19:49] when we would go there for a meeting or a similar educational session or something.
[19:55] Well, in libraries are a reflection of...
[20:00] What's occurring in the community?
[20:05] So with any type of challenge, it'll be like Leigh and Evan, Evan flow.
[20:13] And you know, you look at our statistics system live in this far as incidents. And they're very low, even considering that we are a more rural system.
[20:27] But with any time that there are the community concern, we listen to that, and one of our primary goals is to be welcoming spaceships for everyone.
[20:48] And in particular, some of our more vulnerable populations, we take children, so I think
[20:57] the system has done a very good job at that.
[21:02] Additional questions related to policy of three?
[21:08] Another question on a follow-up topic, then, which would be the funding and sustainability
[21:11] committee, if I might ask about the scope and powers of that organization to the degree that
[21:17] not looking for necessarily a lot of information, but just what is their scope and what are
[21:23] the empowered and what would that be to do?
[21:26] Yeah, the ad hoc committee, so with library funding and sustainability,
[21:35] I mean, one of
[21:36] the driving forces of this and its creation is the realization that we have to, to
[21:49] districts where the property taxes, those are a bunch of sun setting. So it's exploring overall the
[22:02] funding and sustainability of keys, but in particular, those two districts, so something to
[22:08] and Georgetown, and it includes two members of the Board of Supervisor, and it is
[22:18] supervisor, Parlin, and a supervisor of beer camp.
[22:28] Jordan, I'm guessing then they're
[22:29] trying to, and I didn't be in the project if I was, I'm guessing they're trying to,
[22:34] obviously find altered and funding such that we again sustain existing services in
[22:40] communities, possibly even more broadly.
[22:46] The ad hoc committee,
[22:50] that is a vehicle to have
[22:53] multiple supervisors involved in discussions related to those topics. So, with outcomes and
[23:04] direction of that, that's something that, later this year, the
[23:23] sixth and the interpretation
[23:24] a little bit for our commissioners too, and I think about this all the time, assuming it
[23:29] is what it appears to be in face value. I'm like a continuous striving that we all have
[23:39] to go through as a community, right, to ensure our services like library, like the museum and
[23:44] public services certainly as well. And it's always hard to chase after that money. I know my
[23:51] phone listens to me because it served me up a article last night that I sent over to Sean.
[23:57] It was Kimberland exact details of it. We'll find it if needed, but it's a some private equity
[24:02] groups shocked me. Now, so shocked me. I suspect private equity. I see been my own business
[24:08] taking over companies, right? It consolidating and finding efficiencies. I hadn't actually
[24:13] contemplated the case, which appears to be real, that the particular private equity group,
[24:19] which I've not speaking ill of, I just wish surprised to see this reality buying public
[24:24] libraries,
[24:29] you know, that is really interesting. It converts public asset into. So, I just, you
[24:37] know, kind of think about sustainability a lot, curious about this particular, and I'll try
[24:42] I've got to learn more, maybe through additional channels there, unless anybody else has heard of anything,
[24:48] but really want to understand what we can do even as a commission to help support efforts and general
[24:53] to help ensure that this remains a public asset and that it's sustained by our community.
[25:00] If I can ask in, are they looking at options other than bond measures? Is that the idea? Or is it that they're looking at how to do a bond measure? I would like to see them going beyond just bond measures as a way to do it.
[25:15] This is just a platform to open up discussion. Yeah, so as far as there's no directions to the canals and findings and all those pieces. I mean, that's something that
[25:30] tire
[25:35] board, share publicly, this is
[25:41] created, and then, so that,
[25:51] don't
[25:51] have questions or comments?
[25:55] Thank you for those updates.
[25:57] Last quick question, I think, just to confirm what I think I heard for Catalog
[26:00] it, which is so exciting.
[26:03] I cannot wait to have that place, and you said a couple of months, so it sounds like around
[26:08] release a temper maybe. I'm not holding you to it there, but it just sort of says that about
[26:13] right in terms of your guests a bit of win. We might launch that at two months should
[26:18] be the absolute latest. Okay, I'm hopeful.
[26:25] I'm hopeful that it could have, I mean, I'm
[26:28] as excited as everyone else. So I'm hoping that the new product
[26:35] at the late, it shouldn't
[26:37] be later than
[26:43] there's a lot of different
[26:47] place, but once it's in place,
[26:59] that's became
[27:00] that.
[27:03] Exciting for all of us, I know.
[27:05] And also a good moment to say, thank you to you, Bryce.
[27:09] You're staff broadly as well who are enabling it supporting this to happen, not only that,
[27:16] but also the extension of the hours, rather substantial extension, and then we all want that
[27:23] extent if much, much more Sunday, and we'll get back to that point for me to our goal and certainly
[27:28] the recommendation of the commission that we get back to that. Eventually, we know that's not
[27:34] realistic in the short term, but we sure are happy with the progress that is being made so far.
[27:39] And I'm just speaking at all for the rest of the commissioners, anything to add. Thank you for that
[27:46] really.
[27:51] Let's take a look at public comment. I recognize that we actually do have public in the room
[27:57] today. So we have one person at least. Nobody online. Jerry, you represent the entire
[28:04] public today. I don't know if you would like to add at the time.
[28:09] Well, I'm just excited about what we're seeing is doing as a historian, life, and yet, you know,
[28:18] having no researcher open, let me add it. Okay. And yeah, I think we can do to get
[28:27] to the book and make kates, see this a cool break, canals, canals, canals, canals.
[28:36] Except for the scooter. Yeah, that's good.
[28:42] Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be here.
[28:46] I'll be turning to several things. So, you know, you don't have to add anything we'll check in if you'd like to.
[28:55] Okay, so we'll move into our discussion and action items and if the commission will allow this,
[29:05] I do think we can make a special insertion here, just because of the passing, again,
[29:10] of one of our former commissioners, Donaldman. Again, it wasn't here when he was a commissioner.
[29:16] I don't actually know exactly when that was.
[29:18] we filmed as vacancies. It was as vacancies specifically, so just before us then.
[29:26] And we did know that Sean I did know, and I know you all know you don't, but he,
[29:32] that we threw our associations with historical society, is it okay to just identify
[29:36] reading his obituary into the record as well? Sure.
[29:41] Don Emblem, Donald Emblem, 86 of Plasterville, passed away on June 10, 2025.
[29:50] Don was born on November 11, 1938, to Francis and Trudy Olman in Son Prairie, Wisconsin.
[29:58] Don's childhood was spending
[30:00] Greendale was concerned before the growing family moved to Ingolwood, California, between his sophomore and junior years.
[30:08] Don graduated from author and high school in 1956. After joining the Army Reserve, Don met and married
[30:15] Monacolem and began a career in law enforcement. First with the LA County Sheriff's Office and then the California Highway Patrol.
[30:25] Don's CHP path began in New Hall, California, and afforded him opportunities throughout Northern California and Washington, D.C.
[30:34] After his retirement in 1993, Don entered a second career with the International Association of Chiefs of Police,
[30:41] and then the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
[30:45] In 2001, Don worked with the California Office of Traffic Safety, coordinating its click-it
[30:51] or ticket program, and helped design the signpost that don't call it one of your highways.
[30:57] Don was married to Mona until she passed in 1998. In 1999, he married his high school
[31:04] sweetheart Caroline Briggeroth. Finally retiring for real, Don and Caroline settled down
[31:11] their home in Claserville. Dawn volunteered at the upper room and with the children's ministry at
[31:17] New Hope Fellowship where he was known as Opus. He was also a commissioner at the Elderado
[31:23] County Museum, Historical Museum, and a board member at the Historical Society. Often, you could find
[31:31] it dressed up, leading walking tours up and down Claserville's Main Street. He was also a member
[31:37] branch 1-1-3 polypine sons and retirement, serving as big a service.
[31:43] Survived by his wife of 26 years, Dawn leaves behind Daughter's Allison, Jim Wells and
[31:50] Treaty Carter, the son Joseph Olman, with Liz and two surviving brothers, Gerald Martholomem,
[31:56] and John Laurel. 11 grandchildren and eight great grandchildren.
[32:02] Did anybody else get a chance to attend this funeral? I think anybody wants to say,
[32:05] Sean and I went to it was a beautiful service and yeah, we're there, Karen.
[32:11] Thank you for letting me read that into the record and Don, we're
[32:15] remembering you thinking of you and yours.
[32:17] Not said here was, you really knew how to make you laugh.
[32:20] He was so funny, just cracked, you really cracked you up and so really missing.
[32:28] He just recently did such a wonderful job on our two, we can highlight to him.
[32:33] I'm sorry.
[32:35] It's a fact that everybody was cracking up at that,
[32:38] that it's Joe's dream.
[32:40] It's interesting.
[32:43] I'm thinking of Dawn,
[32:45] giving tours and doing the all these things and then turning around and writing you,
[32:49] speeding to get on.
[32:51] And he was capable of doing both.
[32:55] Excellent.
[32:56] I'm sure.
[32:57] That's it.
[32:58] He was a good guy.
[32:59] It's good.
[33:01] Okay.
[33:02] Thank you for letting me interject with that.
[33:05] I will continue with our current agenda and that takes us now to either 25, 1233,
[33:12] discussed adopting a consent calendar slash agenda format for commission business and I'll
[33:17] just expand on this a little bit and say that the intent of this is quite narrow and
[33:24] quite specific.
[33:25] I noticed in our last meeting as we work and we will again today pick up where we left off
[33:30] When we were going through the various items that have been,
[33:33] thank you to the staff and commissioners who have been helping to go through the items
[33:38] in the store of a museum that are in some state of being processed,
[33:44] either for accessions or not, that is a lengthy process that actually we didn't finish
[33:52] and we will try to finish today.
[33:54] But I would like to ask if not only to commissioners, but also staffs, as this would impact both of us.
[34:04] They're pros and cons at this, but of using our consent agenda power, so to speak.
[34:11] What that means is this, that as staff and commissioners and volunteers are going through the various items that remain in process
[34:21] at the museum that need to be reviewed by us as commissioners and that happens outside of this
[34:27] meeting, right? Those are being tallyed, cataloged, and a spreadsheet for our review, for example,
[34:33] later today in our agenda. In order to make it through that process more quickly and presumably
[34:40] for the benefit of the staff at the museum and the museum experience of visiting users. I want to
[34:51] as well, right, but visitors.
[34:54] We can clear out some of that space, get things properly,
[34:56] and they're proper places, et cetera,
[34:58] while we could do that offline.
[35:00] Right? We could have that sent down not only to us, but to the public in advance. Very transparent process,
[35:07] normal. That's essentially the purpose of the consent calendar consent agenda.
[35:14] And so the trade off of that is one
[35:16] obviously we would have to agree to do that, like review in advance of a familiarity with the items that are listed in the spreadsheet
[35:25] that Sean is looking at a little bit later today.
[35:29] And staff would also have to be OK with continuing
[35:34] to popular, but we're doing that anyways.
[35:36] So one presumes is OK, but going through and filling
[35:40] out that spreadsheet and then all of that worked
[35:42] at that, obviously in the tails, it compresses the work
[35:47] somewhat, I think, possibly a good way
[35:49] that we get through more of it sooner and accomplish more sooner.
[35:53] That's the intent of this as a proposal, and I'd like to open that up for questions and
[36:00] conversation at this time first with the commissioners.
[36:04] I know that.
[36:05] That's okay.
[36:07] Yeah.
[36:07] So we can, is there a part of that or all?
[36:10] I'm like, what is it?
[36:10] What we're going to do?
[36:11] I don't understand what we're going to do.
[36:13] It might be helpful to say that you're familiar with, we'll start here with a reflection
[36:16] on the current process that we follow the last time, and as a reminder for everybody, there's
[36:21] spreadsheet, do you mind if we will turn it up since it happens to be right there?
[36:26] Yeah, exactly.
[36:27] So here's a printout of it, which is obviously the digital format.
[36:32] And it's being populated through manual work right now, which won't change at the museum.
[36:39] That comes before us at this meeting, obviously.
[36:41] And there were 10 items on that list, I think.
[36:44] And we got through five at the last time, four.
[36:47] We got your four.
[36:48] And we spent a long time on that because obviously like we hadn't seen it before and we're going through it for the first time and then there's all the conversation around it, which is great.
[36:59] That difference, therefore, is overly simplified as saying this.
[37:04] We would have this published well in advance of the meeting, not presented at the meeting.
[37:10] You would get it in advance of the meeting weeks ideally in advance of the meeting.
[37:16] And then, you know, we would have a chance to look at it, go through, come together.
[37:21] There would be, uh, there is already a recommendation in that spreadsheet as to whether
[37:25] it should be accessioned or not staff helps with that, but not just staff, right?
[37:29] You know, the people are going through the process.
[37:32] And the nice thing is you don't, so we, you know, that's good.
[37:36] You, everybody reviews it to dance, so we're ahead of things.
[37:38] Maybe we've reviewed 10 things or 20 things in advance, so we're way ahead.
[37:43] You do have as a commissioner and so does the public, as well, like they have access to the document, too.
[37:51] So any one item can be pulled out, like it could be that if 20 things, one of them is like we should talk about.
[37:58] So you pull that one thing out, but the other 19 get approved. That's sort of how that works.
[38:06] The one item is in one document that was, so the consent calendar is all but right now in the consent calendar is the minutes, right?
[38:17] So we can put more things in the consent calendar, so it would go sounds like you guys are proposing to put this document, let's say,
[38:27] It was a legitimate calendar, so where are you, when we then would be looking at the consent calendar, you guys will be voting on the minutes and all of those items in that document.
[38:37] And one time.
[38:38] Yeah.
[38:39] So there's a discussion during the meeting.
[38:42] Unless you want to see all the night amounts say this one is tricky, we need to discuss it.
[38:48] And my question is about what have been the time.
[38:51] I mean, I think that these, all the things,
[38:53] and go a bit the right way to send it to those one individual. Yes, each one is a
[38:58] item. There's not several things in it. Right, it's these are only that item that we're waiting to
[39:03] review. Because I know the things we have back in the green room. That's what these are.
[39:07] All right, somebody's donated something. There could be 10 things in that, don't it? Right, that
[39:14] would be a one line item and they all be included in it. So either they all go or are you
[39:18] I'll stick, that it.
[39:19] We don't give up any, so it'd be put at this, but yes,
[39:22] but I'll modify it.
[39:23] May I cut these three things here?
[39:25] They're all listening, that's appreciate it.
[39:26] I've got my 10, my keys, and my juice.
[39:29] And so you might be fine with the pen and the juice,
[39:32] but you've got a question about the keys.
[39:34] It's several of them, and maybe one is of,
[39:36] you should talk about it.
[39:38] And so you could pull just, you could pull
[39:42] just to this set of keys, and I don't know
[39:44] we could talk about that.
[39:45] You could provide them.
[39:45] It's probably the option of approval,
[39:51] but as with a key example, I mean, you could call things for discussion.
[39:59] Finally, question is...
[40:00] If given the sheet that we have here, if this is what we would expect, I would like one more call and it says, why?
[40:06] Because there's not enough information. Okay, who's Charles Peter? Why would we want him in there? Without that little bit of information?
[40:17] I would go, what do we want him for?
[40:19] Well, and these are part of this backlog that exists currently, and some of them we don't have robust amount of information.
[40:31] Moving forward, we're not going to have a backlog, and that's one of the reasons that the commission needs monthly.
[40:38] So when we receive something, it should go to the commission, the very next, right, you know,
[40:47] available meeting, as long as we can meet the, you know, so we do our remark.
[40:52] But my question here is, I don't know Charles Peter is, is he important, and you know,
[40:58] kind of all the review of that this time.
[41:00] I think this was already done for the last meeting.
[41:02] We've been improving upon descriptions and summaries.
[41:05] He is the oldest pioneer that was living in California, 1915, and he mined in a rural
[41:12] county specifically in 1845.
[41:15] Yeah, that would be important to information for us to be able to decide before we get
[41:22] here.
[41:23] It's very easy.
[41:24] Yeah, we want to make these as robust as possible.
[41:28] Yeah.
[41:28] Okay.
[41:31] Because I don't know where we...
[41:34] conversation or questions from the commissioners
[41:39] would like to include staff and that as well.
[41:42] It does impact, I mean, it's the same process of course, but it does have a different cadence in the process.
[41:51] So it is a very neat.
[41:52] And I certainly respect the work that's happening there, and I know it's not just our staff,
[41:57] and it's even some commissioners and volunteers that are involved in that process.
[42:00] but I don't need to propose anything that doesn't actually provide value here for us being primarily
[42:06] efficiency.
[42:07] So, I have either comments or a question just in that I did take a quick peek and I have
[42:12] not been able to locate another commission that has used the consent calendar in this
[42:17] banner.
[42:19] But on the other hand, there aren't quite a lot of commissions that assist donations.
[42:24] So, the only one I can come up with is Parks and Rec, and Parks and Rec, and I haven't
[42:27] found a commission or an agenda where they have used that set calendar in that way.
[42:33] I don't know if that's just because they just don't do it or if it's a loud or not,
[42:37] I don't know what the rules are with that.
[42:42] So, well, I didn't just say the primary concern must be for us that there is ample opportunity
[42:47] for the public to comment and notwithstanding that, you know, today we don't necessarily,
[42:54] you know, we've lost a couple of meetings or hasn't been, but it would be out there and I think
[42:58] we should do everything we can to promote awareness,
[43:01] to promote awareness of the purpose of the commission,
[43:05] which will not be denigrated, so to speak,
[43:08] by having this as a process, in my opinion,
[43:10] at least as long as we truly can say and do follow up
[43:15] on this, but we've got it.
[43:16] Yeah, we have to review it and we can't arrive
[43:18] to this meeting and look at it for the first time.
[43:22] That is exactly what we're trying to avoid.
[43:26] That may be asking too much, I don't know.
[43:28] Yes. So that is my question. So then if that does happen to me,
[43:33] the we see signatures are going to be accepted too.
[43:37] So when Morgan before the meeting, it would be familiar with all of it. Exactly.
[43:45] And then they decide before the meeting if that's moving.
[43:50] At the meeting itself, when we go through it, we get to that point of consent agenda.
[43:55] And we're right now we just have the one line item there, but there would be two line items.
[43:58] So I will take time to ask everybody. Is there anything that needs to be pulled?
[44:06] from maybe yes and things need to be pulled out in which case it'll drop down into our
[44:11] actionments. We'll review them. And so this will be, so that there are items that are pulled
[44:18] for further discussion and it's going to be, that's going to be the tacit approval of
[44:27] the
[44:27] recommendation on peer to a session in or to not a session, so that's why it may agree.
[44:34] That's right.
[44:35] So there'd be another column that says recommended a session to you session type of a thing.
[44:40] So that's what I'm going to do.
[44:43] Not in this one.
[44:44] This is older.
[44:45] So we've improved it.
[44:47] So as we've been going through on Saturdays and working with staff and volunteers,
[44:53] as even with volunteers, we've been adding what that recommendation works like.
[44:56] And then this is going to sit or sit.
[45:00] I think the only other thing would be, like consent item, you see it's all gay or nay,
[45:09] but we say you have ten items. If you're pulling one, does that mean you want to say nay, or does it just mean you have more information?
[45:17] More information, just definitely a conversation. It's I don't have enough information to know who that.
[45:22] The straw is haters.
[45:25] Let's say that just the way it is right now, and I want to say note, but everybody else,
[45:33] when you get to the consenting, it can be taken so I can consent that I would have to say
[45:38] no.
[45:39] That's right.
[45:39] Yeah, we would have to call that out, and if you want to change the status, that's right.
[45:44] That's right.
[45:47] Well, I'm leaving things just now after getting more information, but I think that shows
[45:51] some important that it is.
[45:52] I'm happy that's why I was asking early on is I can provide more supplemental information on each item if it's not there.
[45:59] Well, that's what I appreciated the last meeting was afraid we might not get through the internet.
[46:07] But if you're going to put all that problem out there, then I'm okay with it.
[46:12] I think it's down on alternate real timeline for just a moment because it's just useful to talk about it.
[46:17] Please disagree with me if you don't think this is likely.
[46:19] but having all of us having been inside the museum and knowing how much there is to go through,
[46:26] right, there's quite a lot, and it's important that we do it, it's literally our jobs, right?
[46:32] And so let's say we decide not to find a more efficient, but not less quality path, right? Again,
[46:41] like somehow more work is here for us one way or the other, either it's because in between our meetings,
[46:47] We get a list, we're going through it, think about it,
[46:50] I'm going to pull this a lot and I'm going to say
[46:52] that whatever it is, right?
[46:54] Or we don't, which means, as we're going to experience
[46:58] again in a short little pit, we're going to have a lot of items.
[47:03] Every one of these means to review and my guess is
[47:06] at some point we're going to say to each other,
[47:09] we're going to make an adapt, not a big enough debt,
[47:12] not fast enough.
[47:13] Maybe that's okay, but that does imply that the room available and the transition and
[47:24] improvement of the museum space is delayed.
[47:30] It just takes longer to clean all that up, get everything in place, because they're waiting
[47:35] on us.
[47:36] And we're going line by line on a lot of things, which, you know, that's okay.
[47:41] We can do that.
[47:45] I just wanted to to speak about and looking at the process as a whole.
[47:50] I think we've done pretty well at identifying the things that do need to run through the condition.
[47:58] With that, if that takes a while, that's really okay because we do not.
[48:07] We don't have any place to put the stuff that you say gets like that.
[48:12] We know we don't have any where and we're still trying to clear space to
[48:16] pretty processing area.
[48:19] We don't have the space for that.
[48:21] So I think we're actually don't panic by.
[48:25] I think we're actually at a good place as far as having identified
[48:30] most of the items that need to be looked at to a session or not.
[48:34] And having them in a single-stating area.
[48:38] But I'm missing a point there, which is that things, things are not going to be
[48:44] accession, and that's the part of what we're trying to do to save, we're not taking
[48:48] the right.
[48:50] So, you need that space clear, and that's kind of where I was coming from.
[48:54] Right.
[48:54] I don't mean to speak for you, like if you've just had to say, no, we're fine, I will not
[48:58] push on this.
[49:00] But then we still, I mean, but there's been there still some places to stage for things
[49:03] that we have decided, not to a session,
[49:06] while we go through the process of doing whatever we do with presenting them.
[49:11] I'm pretty sure that we have never obsessed.
[49:14] We're turning them to whoever donated,
[49:18] just going through that whole process of finding out who that is.
[49:21] Because that's a process in itself.
[49:23] That's why I'm trying to, don't feel rushed.
[49:29] No, it'll be nice to see that corner.
[49:31] It would be a process.
[49:32] And it would be really nice, I know, but there's, you can be nasty.
[49:37] I think that's not where the lockdown is.
[49:40] I think it appears that you never relate, because we are actually doing something now.
[49:45] And we processed last month and we're going to process this month.
[49:48] I hope a couple of items and we're pouring into the pile.
[49:53] And I agree, I don't think there will be an overwhelming amount of difficult to determine items.
[50:00] We're not following.
[50:03] Providence is everything to me because that's the cutting edge. Who is this guy, as he gave it? Do you? Do you know who he was in San Diego? Why do we have in them? That kind of thing. Anyway, I applaud everybody. Let's, let's make tracks and we'll work our way through it and make some good decisions.
[50:22] In
[50:26] the other questions or comments, the moment it's time.
[50:29] Before I get to a turn into the public, sorry.
[50:32] The other questions are coming from Commissioner Thorstown.
[50:35] Apologies for one of the decisions.
[50:39] Let's see.
[50:40] I mean, down the line, we will not have a left log.
[50:44] We have a bit of a back log now.
[50:50] The library department.
[50:52] I mean, we're flexible.
[50:53] And if something, if this was approved and then it was,
[51:04] it's not like it, there couldn't be another pivot.
[51:09] Maybe it's something that helps at this time, and doesn't adopt it in the long run,
[51:16] or you won't know how it goes unless you try it.
[51:19] But the library is, we are flexible.
[51:26] I did want to make one more comment.
[51:28] I could be for you, Transphobic.
[51:30] I've been volunteering in helping with this process of
[51:35] FAFSA volunteers at the museum.
[51:37] And while, yes, it's not overly disruptive in terms of where these things are right now.
[51:43] There's, they have a location where they're held.
[51:48] There are a lot of items that staff and volunteers have been
[51:51] discovering that our, perhaps, have an accession, that perhaps don't even have a problem
[51:58] on some account. Maybe they shouldn't have that, and they should come back for discussion
[52:01] you for the commission. We're seeing a lot of things that that may apply to. The sooner we get
[52:09] through these, the sooner we can address those and make more space. And so I think a consent calendar
[52:15] is important for that reason. There's otherwise we'll never get up. What's in front of us?
[52:21] If that makes, that's how I view it.
[52:25] That's a good point.
[52:27] Depending on
[52:30] our current backlog is around.
[52:34] You estimate 40 items.
[52:36] I hope.
[52:38] Do you already have you added more to that time?
[52:41] I think they did.
[52:43] Oh.
[52:44] Yeah.
[52:45] And something came along Saturday to be considered by the commission.
[52:48] But that falls way behind all of these.
[52:50] So, I'm anxious for the doctors, can't you accept it like I cannot wait for us to go down that?
[52:57] And I suspect that that will be accepted and added to the collection.
[53:03] And I dream about it being one of the first things we'll catalog it, but that is just my advice.
[53:09] Like, so I have to have another item.
[53:11] We want to get to these things and then all the other things that need to be reviewed.
[53:16] So, that I think that's the spirit of this proposal.
[53:18] So, I felt that it would be, so, let's say we moved to the consent calendar.
[53:25] And we, a session, 40 items, I'd like that.
[53:30] That's the book.
[53:30] Or do you have session with volume?
[53:32] Yeah, right.
[53:32] Ah, okay.
[53:33] But let's say 20.
[53:34] We're going to session.
[53:35] What do you have?
[53:35] What do you have?
[53:37] So, I'm not sure what the process then looks like on the back end, and I don't think all
[53:41] some of you know, I'm just the paperwork, and I don't take care for these meetings, but
[53:45] what is the process then?
[53:47] how much work is going into the sessioning those 20 items that be a session in the other 20.
[53:52] Can they keep the staff and the volunteers who are responsible for that part of the process keep up if we do it in that platform?
[53:59] I think there's just a change right here.
[54:02] I'm positive, Sam.
[54:02] No, but just because the decision has been made, there's not a certain timeline on that.
[54:13] What I want to do is quickly is possible, but at least at that point we know and we can start that path.
[54:23] Because without that there's no option for moving forward even if it's at a slower pace.
[54:33] It doesn't change.
[54:34] It never does the same.
[54:38] But it does get us to the point tonight.
[54:40] If you're hinting that this also I agree with you.
[54:42] I think we all see it.
[54:45] It's actually a lot of work collectively and a lot of different parts.
[54:48] all the way through. We barely touched on it, but it's actually a really big thing like
[54:52] calling, if we have contact information, calling the families that may have brought that
[54:56] in originally today, then moving all the way past.
[55:00] Possibly to a surplus situation, which is several steps downstream, like something that we make a decision on here. I'm curious how long it does take us to get it through that whole cycle. And I bet you'd say, year, my guess, I don't know, maybe it's lost, maybe it's more.
[55:16] That's not today's conversation. That's some huge third conversation. We recognize we're down to a day plus next to a day for some research.
[55:24] We're going to rebuild the museum over time, right?
[55:28] That's one of the things that the Commission will continue to recommend is, and one of
[55:32] the reasons I was asking you earlier about funding, you know, we have to keep in mind
[55:36] also as commissioners are all in helping to engage in the community and help to find and
[55:42] find support of all kinds, Ontario is one of them, I think.
[55:46] So that we can get back to full capacity, until then, I don't know how long it's going to take
[55:52] the process, these things, but I sure as I know that the list of things to be processed, I
[55:57] have we could do that much faster soon. I'd like to say given that you guys are working so hard
[56:04] about the problem and to make sure that what is put out there we have information to make a decision.
[56:11] I would move that we vote on this and give it at least a try. If it doesn't work, we'll
[56:22] that the television doesn't work.
[56:25] Let me open it up to the public too.
[56:27] Public.
[56:28] Public in the room.
[56:30] Nobody online.
[56:31] Okay.
[56:32] So, I mean, that I wasn't dead last week.
[56:35] Am I understanding of what you're saying is that there are.
[56:39] This is not the museum collection as a whole.
[56:45] This is new items that are sitting there that have been donated by the public
[56:50] to the historical museum that you're deciding whether it will be in the collection group.
[57:04] Is this part of this that then the items can be changed in the museum to incorporate the new donations so that the museum has changed to it?
[57:21] I don't know, in my opinion, at least I'll open up to others, that there's any change in
[57:25] applied.
[57:26] It's simply accession or de-accent or not accepting.
[57:31] It's not really a de-accession if we haven't accessioned it before, but I can get my point.
[57:34] Like I had ever saying, yep, okay, we'll take it.
[57:37] Or, no, we're not taking that.
[57:38] It's more of a gatekeeping process.
[57:40] And then once you get the item goes,
[57:42] Trant, go through the gate.
[57:44] Then it would be up to those involved in the actual operation of the museum
[57:48] to decide where and when it would be exhibited or how you would interpret it or so on.
[57:53] But this would be a sifting program and it's well needed because we take an advantage
[58:02] of many two items by people who just want to drop stuff and...
[58:06] Right.
[58:07] So who have the form that people sign, that the donor sign, that it says, this is a consideration
[58:14] for a decision too.
[58:16] That's okay.
[58:17] So when, when, um, the item is not accepted and if the, um, if it's been a while and there's no family to return it to, okay.
[58:34] So then you have a stack of stuff that cannot be,
[58:48] yeah, there's a process.
[58:49] can be sold and the money is put into the museum.
[58:52] And the public way well now, it's been here, it's been moving.
[58:56] That's usually the last.
[58:58] That's the last resort.
[59:01] Well, as a historian, if I was online and saw the Peters, I would be all over that.
[59:13] If it was in my family, it, you know, Charles Kader was in my family and I was doing research on them, that would be will it be scanned page by page or is it just, we didn't ask one picture like that.
[59:30] I didn't understand the last question. It's a book.
[59:33] So if I was doing research on my family and I had Charles Peter in my family history and I looked
[59:40] online and it popped up that the library museum in Passovo, California, had said book.
[59:49] Would it be something that would be macrophies so people can see it?
[59:54] is it?
[59:56] Yeah, so if...
[59:57] with items that we...
[1:00:00] And add to the collection. This is part of the reason for the catalog at software. And there's actually options in our library catalog and then the back end software that we use, but that as well. And we also have, we've acquired a book scanner to our intent is to scan entire items.
[1:00:28] And we will have a huge amount of storage space.
[1:00:35] So we're engineering things to where we will be able to offer that.
[1:00:43] So forever, you know, if internet access, when you can use your laptop or your phone or your tablet or whatever it might be,
[1:00:49] you can open these items up and scroll through them and discover and...
[1:00:54] And so, yeah, these are, you know, this was our first power point that was put together
[1:01:04] with some of these backlog items and with time considerations when I assembled all of that,
[1:01:12] with some of them I had multiple photos that were very high quality, but I took a screenshot
[1:01:17] of that, so it wasn't as high quality. So even with the process, as far as review, you'll see
[1:01:26] higher quality pictures and scans moving forward. Now we wouldn't scan the entire book with
[1:01:35] this process, but if we were to add it, then we would have wanted to document and preserve everything
[1:01:50] I don't think we have any questions from the public at this time, I don't think we have any other questions.
[1:02:01] We heard enough questions from the public at this time.
[1:02:04] Well, there have been a motion. Do you mind any rest time of your motion?
[1:02:09] Okay.
[1:02:09] And move that we give this.
[1:02:14] I'm going to figure out what it's called right now.
[1:02:16] Yeah, just consent calendar.
[1:02:20] I'm sorry.
[1:02:22] And that it works that we continue using.
[1:02:27] I'm going to friendly amendment to that, which is probably unnecessary.
[1:02:30] I may, which is just this, that.
[1:02:33] And we agree as commissioners that we've got some work in between these meetings.
[1:02:37] And that's probably not terrible because it's kind of fun, actually, right?
[1:02:40] You could see these items and contemplate them and do a little research, but yes, we won't be doing all that work in this meeting.
[1:02:49] We'll be doing it in between news.
[1:02:51] Accept the amendment.
[1:02:54] But remember, for pointing discussion, that this is more than just the assertion of items.
[1:02:59] This is for commission business.
[1:03:01] So consent count are quick.
[1:03:02] I have other things in, and I've said, if gender other than what we've discussed today, it can be anything.
[1:03:10] Or just just for a point, we can come in on that consent deal and say, well, we all read the previous agendas and the events.
[1:03:21] And we can just say that that's part of that whole thing and move right along.
[1:03:26] Yeah, there's advantage to that. There's going to be other business.
[1:03:29] So I wasn't contemplating truthfully, I wasn't contemplating other business and yet from time to time,
[1:03:34] not that we do much else, but I guess we could be something else that decided that we wanted to treat in this way.
[1:03:40] It is theoretically possible.
[1:03:41] I think it gives us opportunity to make a decision if we need to address something or not.
[1:03:46] We don't have to force it to look this up with all kinds of things if we don't have a need.
[1:03:51] But I think it does leave it open and it makes it more powerful to just the deaccessioning of absurdity.
[1:03:59] Refusal to a second.
[1:04:02] Do we have a second?
[1:04:03] I second.
[1:04:06] All right.
[1:04:06] All in favor.
[1:04:08] All right.
[1:04:09] In any case.
[1:04:12] Okay.
[1:04:12] Thank you for that conversation.
[1:04:14] Can I just ask for clarity?
[1:04:16] So the motions to move to try using the consent calendar to a session and deacity to deaccession
[1:04:21] ideas that items or the backlog items?
[1:04:25] Backblog of items, in my opinion, at least at this time.
[1:04:28] I'd give you what you're asking there, a better broader.
[1:04:31] But I think we can strain it a little bit right now in the city.
[1:04:34] But you disagree.
[1:04:35] We're just talking about the backlog for the moment.
[1:04:37] We can always decide to expand if we want to.
[1:04:40] Can you always pull an item?
[1:04:42] The amendment was that there was going to be work for the museum from a shared
[1:04:45] studio in the interim period, which you basically research on the item.
[1:04:49] We have to review that.
[1:04:53] But again, remember, as this says adopting a consent calendar format for commission business.
[1:05:02] That's the title of the item. Right. That's basically what the item is.
[1:05:11] You're adopting a consent calendar that you can use for any number of purposes.
[1:05:16] I'm saying it does it specifically say here that we're by motion adopting anything but this.
[1:05:26] right? Or did you do that with your motion, including a session? Well that's the way that reads.
[1:05:33] If there's ever a problem, though, you have the right to pull an item. So consent item is proposed
[1:05:40] and there's eight items on there, and you don't like to, all you have to do is say, I'm going to pull those two
[1:05:47] items. Actually, an item is actually an agenda item. It's not a thing in a sack,
[1:05:53] We have to, it's not an item for ascending, it's an item of business, we have wine items, sorry, I had a different definition of my event like this.
[1:06:05] No, we have wine item veto.
[1:06:07] Okay.
[1:06:07] Say, I don't want that in the emotion and it's full.
[1:06:14] Excellent.
[1:06:15] Okay.
[1:06:17] I'm going to move us on in our agenda then.
[1:06:19] Thank you all for a very positive conversation about that.
[1:06:22] Next up is another very interesting conversation I predict, which is I'm in 25, 12, 35.
[1:06:31] Discuss and gather feedback on the draft vision and mission statements.
[1:06:36] And so I've passed that out, I think it's in front of everybody.
[1:06:38] It's available online.
[1:06:40] Thank you.
[1:06:40] There is a screen as well.
[1:06:44] And so as you're looking at this single one side of page, then you're probably already now.
[1:06:50] I'll take you back in time to shortly and say if that several months ago, one of the things that we said we would do,
[1:06:58] and we did was kind of go through all of the various foundational documents for the museum itself, including its operational policies, et cetera.
[1:07:08] Amongst those, I'm giving right over that, that's been done and feedback provided.
[1:07:13] But amongst those, we also discovered that there was a lack of a vision statement.
[1:07:18] It doesn't exist as far as anybody can tell, and we want one.
[1:07:23] And there is a mission statement, and I see the vision statement being sort of top-level
[1:07:30] and the mission builds from the vision statement.
[1:07:34] So the mission statement does exist, and it's been, I won't say, clean up here, but it's been
[1:07:40] and it represents it here, because whole section in the operations document,
[1:07:44] which actually has a lot of text that which a lot of it is not a mission statement.
[1:07:48] And so that was part of the problem too, as we kind of thought,
[1:07:51] well, however it has been written, it's not that there's anything perhaps missing,
[1:07:56] but it could be said better, it could be made a little bit more distinct,
[1:07:59] it could shape it a little bit more to reflect what we want to do.
[1:08:05] And so we went about drafting that always with the intent,
[1:08:09] which is pure forth displayed and continues to make that public,
[1:08:14] and it's public across as possible,
[1:08:16] that this is a vision and emissions statement
[1:08:18] that just like the museum itself,
[1:08:20] from the library system itself,
[1:08:21] that's belongs to the community.
[1:08:23] Having said all of that, therefore,
[1:08:25] you now have in front of you a draft.
[1:08:27] There is no vote today on any of this.
[1:08:29] It is purely for our conversation.
[1:08:32] It is the first time that sort of formally,
[1:08:34] if not, importantly, previously,
[1:08:36] that have had several individuals review them, we want more to review them.
[1:08:44] Several on this group have reviewed them, not all of us.
[1:08:48] Several on the public have actually looked at it because we've been kind of floating this out a little bit
[1:08:52] to some of the other organizations that are out there, non-profits, for example,
[1:08:55] if members of the community just get a little bit of a sense of feedback,
[1:09:02] which has been
[1:09:06] is, there is a horizon, a time horizon on this sort of speak, I don't know where I got that
[1:09:13] language from, some business by summer. There's a time horizon on this for one to the
[1:09:18] better praising, which is that I knocked over, forget the day, but we have that's when the
[1:09:25] sport of supervisor meets and we are to present. And so by then, in October, we want to have
[1:09:36] with a recommendation that we formally begin the process to add the vision statement and
[1:09:43] the mission statement for the museum. Was that a helpful overview or are there any questions
[1:09:50] from the commissioners?
[1:09:54] Any questions for staff? And then we'll begin conversation. Okay.
[1:10:00] Let's open it up to conversation first here, and then we'll do public as well after that.
[1:10:06] So you've been reading while I've been talking, talking, talking at you, sorry. The vision and the
[1:10:11] admissions statements ask your impressions. How does it feel when you read them?
[1:10:21] How do we wait till we're nationally ready?
[1:10:23] Yes. It's fire. Boy, well, the stuff really flow in for a session again.
[1:10:33] Can I treat that actually for a second?
[1:10:34] Because it's a good entry point for the conversation and say, nationally, recognize
[1:10:39] it at how it works.
[1:10:41] Yeah.
[1:10:42] Yeah, nationally.
[1:10:43] Everybody that I have shown this too so far has paused on that and it's good.
[1:10:49] It's a different pause on it.
[1:10:51] Can I say, in my opinion, that that reflects a desire, hit some level, but also a
[1:11:03] as to whether we could desire to be, but in doubt as to whether we could be.
[1:11:08] And I'll make a very short case this to why we could be.
[1:11:11] And that is that so much of, I certainly don't do the country justice when I say that so much of its evolution was affected by the discovery of gold near this region.
[1:11:26] so that that is not the whole story. There's many parts of these vision and
[1:11:30] emissions statements that speak to the whole story of California.
[1:11:34] That particular, that particular reason shows that, you know, to me, and I think
[1:11:42] to all of us, that we actually should be nationally recognized for the influence we had not just locally,
[1:11:48] not just regionally, not just in the state, but the whole country's direction,
[1:11:54] the ability changed at that moment and we are at the
[1:11:57] epicenter of it in this county eight miles from where we're sitting.
[1:12:02] Yeah, why not be nationally known and nationally recognized for many reasons
[1:12:06] of which that's one.
[1:12:08] That's the thinking behind that.
[1:12:14] And in the context of the goal discovery that suffices.
[1:12:19] And we're not saying we're a museum of everything.
[1:12:24] We're not just in a Sonyan, but your point is well taken within
[1:12:28] And the fact of gold discovery in the ripples that went out in settler wagon trains and everything else,
[1:12:38] transganal raroads and everything else, we are the upper center and I think we would be naturally known,
[1:12:49] but you do have to produce if you're going to be known when the questions and requests for research come in and so forth.
[1:12:57] But that's an honor.
[1:12:59] We're developing the tools.
[1:13:03] So one of the most important ones that
[1:13:05] is to be able to get out to the public,
[1:13:07] you're doing such a terrific job with right now.
[1:13:10] So the next thing is to take the museum
[1:13:12] itself to the next level.
[1:13:15] And we can't do that if we don't
[1:13:16] strive to do that.
[1:13:20] Not just the museum, but the research rooms,
[1:13:22] preserving and interpreting it
[1:13:23] says the complete diverse history and cultures of all
[1:13:28] includes indigenous culture. It includes, you know, the things that keep alluded to, again,
[1:13:35] we're talking wagon trains, the lumber industry, and the labor of the fruit industry, and
[1:13:40] ag, and railroad. So, there's a lot to do. Catalog, it's going to help with that. I think that this
[1:13:47] is a positive mission statement. ambitious isn't the word I'm working for. It's refreshing.
[1:13:54] And I think it's nice to read this at these mission statements every now and again, and talk about why we're here, why we're doing what we're doing.
[1:14:02] Well, the community wants the museum and the research room to represent, and I think that's well stated in this draft.
[1:14:10] question
[1:14:13] here is on the mission statement where it says that it's the present, the diverse stories and
[1:14:19] conference of history of order and accounting, and again it's narrative to California and the nation.
[1:14:23] So, but we don't want this stuff to connect us to the nation in our collection, right?
[1:14:28] Because we don't have room.
[1:14:29] Our story has it relates to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the,
[1:14:33] yeah, because
[1:14:35] Washington, DC, commemorative coin that I want you to have.
[1:14:38] I don't know, it's great because we see all the things that were currently discussing that
[1:14:42] are backlocked, all those most of those people came from other parts of the world in the country
[1:14:47] and they made their home here at least temporarily if not permanently, and that's the connection.
[1:14:53] I'm sorry to talk to you.
[1:14:53] It goes beyond that Lincoln Highway on the express that there's so much that comes through this county.
[1:15:00] Throughout history, now we've got the wine country, you know, this has become one of the primary wine growing areas, but we tend to focus only on the gold rush, which is huge, but that's one of my areas I really like, but there's so much more that we can talk about, that we can look on on a national scale.
[1:15:19] My point was not that we shouldn't look at the young elder in a county.
[1:15:23] Mine was more of a logistics of, in the first, the original mission statement, right?
[1:15:28] I'm not saying that advocating that we should keep it kind of a thing, but it's basically
[1:15:33] it's centering the focus on elder out of county, but this says the focus of elder out of county
[1:15:38] and how it pertains to the California and the nation, it was more about people wanting to donate their stuff.
[1:15:45] then do we need to look at how our donation thing is written so it does, you know, from this
[1:15:51] county. That's the thing I'm worried about. I don't, I haven't looked at that guy, you know,
[1:15:57] so I just want to make sure that that still says, you know, it gives us better than hate a limit
[1:16:01] what we're accepting. That's what we can fix it. There you go. Yeah, you can insert screens to prevent
[1:16:09] Yeah, that was my one point.
[1:16:11] And the current accession guidelines to be clear do states that it has to have a part on our toy to elder on a cat.
[1:16:19] Let's just put it bold print.
[1:16:21] Once we have cataloging up and running, we open the possibility of a global audience.
[1:16:29] So we have these very unique items to be shared.
[1:16:34] and it just completely opens it up to discovery.
[1:16:38] I like to a vision statement that's supposed to be
[1:16:42] aspirational, producing, and
[1:16:45] nationally recognized. I did the same thing, you know,
[1:16:49] I was like, well, and you know,
[1:16:52] one step at a time, but I like it, and with the
[1:16:58] library, I mean, we have
[1:17:02] with different projects. I mean, that's what we have an open source integrated library system,
[1:17:08] not all libraries have. That is actually a hugely beneficial piece and even our branding
[1:17:19] and our logo. So, dare I say that we have one, we have one of the best public library logos
[1:17:28] that I have come across. I mean, as you get out there and look at all of them,
[1:17:32] There's, it's, I think we can have that same energy, but there's a lot of me jumping right.
[1:17:40] Great.
[1:17:42] Well, hard.
[1:17:44] A little undercurrent there that I'll just comment on because it's there and we all recognize
[1:17:47] it to some greater or less for level.
[1:17:50] And that is, you know, as we begin to shape our identity,
[1:17:56] newly here through a vision statement that it refers to a new vision statement,
[1:17:59] refreshed mission statement and kind of like, you know, thinking about the
[1:18:04] accession policy and maybe had to even tighten that up. It was implied. Yes,
[1:18:09] our attention, I'll just put it out there. Our attention will additionally
[1:18:13] at some point, not for a while, but for at some point we'll turn to the full
[1:18:17] collections of the museum that make sure that we really feel like we're not at that
[1:18:22] point right now. It's just strategic. Yeah. Yeah. We're not at that point. We're not
[1:18:29] which it is, but even more so, programming, involvement and engagement, everybody's excited about that school,
[1:18:37] involvement. You know, it's so many wonderful opportunities to continue to tell stories.
[1:18:42] Yes, and elevate the county museum nationally, maybe even, eventually.
[1:18:50] Any other reactions positive and negative or otherwise to what you read in the vision statement
[1:18:55] of the mission statement.
[1:19:00] When do we need to make, we need, like you said, there's a timeline
[1:19:04] by us told us. We need to put this out for the public to look at or we ready to do that.
[1:19:11] I would suggest that, um, that is exactly to be the perfect segue, um, that it is time to do that.
[1:19:18] And more so, even I would suggest that each of us as commissioners, you know, you are each of
[1:19:25] involved with many different groups across the county and individuals and institutions that
[1:19:31] are respected. And, you know, I'd like to ask your help to the degree that you're able to
[1:19:35] ask people. Okay, we've got to think of a new business statement, new mission statement here,
[1:19:39] it is. What do you think? What do you think? Awareness is, this is important, if you will, as
[1:19:46] our role in developing these as a commission. For more that the community broadly is exposed to
[1:19:53] hasn't has time to comment on it, but it was to say, I think, yeah, we love it, or to have
[1:20:00] Feedback, you know, for us, the better, the wrongest is what I was contemplating, such that by September 1st, we've got this shift over to the Board of Supervisors with our recommendation that they, that they, in fact, it's the word I'm looking for here. I'm just accept, but adopt, adopt this. Yeah, interesting. Thank you.
[1:20:24] And just be sure that I really love community cornerstone, please don't change.
[1:20:30] Oh yeah.
[1:20:32] That's okay.
[1:20:35] I'm just going to be a little wet rain cloud on every side.
[1:20:39] Not rain cloud.
[1:20:40] Not rain cloud.
[1:20:41] But more just expressing the, are we setting ourselves up for people calling us out?
[1:20:47] Because on our mission statement, we're, you know, we serve the widely accessible
[1:20:51] and collaborative community cars don't really great.
[1:20:54] welcoming Boris Dr. Foster and appreciation of providing their routine educational opportunities
[1:21:00] through dynamic engagement in person online and through public programming. We are on the open
[1:21:06] two days of each year. And are we going to get some pushbacks saying, hey, Colin Sow, you're
[1:21:12] only open two days a week out of that dynamic engagement in person and through public programming.
[1:21:17] What do you have about the program? Yes, we will. And that is a more attention.
[1:21:22] And it is absolutely intentional.
[1:21:24] I want to be on record that, you know, for my part,
[1:21:27] at least in the commission, it's our public duty
[1:21:30] and responsibility to help in every way we can,
[1:21:33] certainly not through just pressuring administration
[1:21:35] to make that happen.
[1:21:36] That's not the reality at all.
[1:21:39] We have to work through our community broadly
[1:21:41] and find ways of supporting together
[1:21:44] the museum and the library system.
[1:21:47] Well, and look where we were in January.
[1:21:50] And what we are now, we're open to the fair, we're going to have catalogues in place, and that is just going to be...
[1:22:00] We're going to take pictures.
[1:22:02] Everything's going to be populated in the exponential break.
[1:22:07] But then think of where, you know, this same pace even five years from now, as more partnerships are built in all these pieces.
[1:22:16] I mean, January was not very long ago, and, you know,
[1:22:22] so many great things.
[1:22:23] By the way, response to that question is, what are you going to do to help?
[1:22:27] Again, and we're doing everything weekend when can we meet you at the gate?
[1:22:32] Yeah, this is our mission statement.
[1:22:34] This is what we're working for.
[1:22:36] You have suggestions on how we get there.
[1:22:39] I think you need to be looking where you're going.
[1:22:42] You can't say here's where we are, because that's where you stay.
[1:22:46] And this, this says, we have a direction.
[1:22:53] Impested.
[1:22:55] I would like to thank the subcommittee, but also for helping with this.
[1:22:59] Oh, the one more thing I should point out.
[1:23:01] Just to just remember to head.
[1:23:02] We sort of touched on it very briefly, but it deserves for the record to be called out.
[1:23:06] Also, at one point at early version of this,
[1:23:09] very specifically called it the listed even.
[1:23:12] I think some of the native tribes that have been in the area or groups that have been in the area.
[1:23:19] And that was shortened here, where I think good reason not, because of exclusion, but because we started wanting to add every group and actually started contemplating a lot of additions.
[1:23:33] And we realized that's not the path. The better path was to be very clear about inclusion in this statement, these statements.
[1:23:40] and so we tried to do that. I'm certainly open to any suggestions that make it even better,
[1:23:48] but I feel like it's something pretty good place. And so I'm trying to find exactly how we
[1:23:54] were to do that here. I'm faded at first. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, presents the diverse stories
[1:24:01] and comprehensive history of El Dorado County, and it should be stated for the record as we're moving
[1:24:08] into actually putting this into the place that we do, in fact, in ten, we are not being
[1:24:12] circumspect.
[1:24:13] We tend for this to have that inclusivity and that those stories of all groups and peoples
[1:24:20] and times and industries and that all of that actually is a part of what we want to try to
[1:24:27] catcher and respect.
[1:24:31] Okay, let's look at the public, again, and see if there is anybody online that we want
[1:24:36] a comment at this time. Not seeing anybody online, I'll turn to the room, but public represents
[1:24:43] a year, and I'm the additional opponents at this time.
[1:24:46] I think it's great.
[1:24:54] I can see and I know of things that will.
[1:25:00] Help. I actually have a copy that was written by a state level, the history of the nurse use in California.
[1:25:14] who was bringing what plants and trees and it's just a wonderful bit of information that
[1:25:26] you know that I could share because the growers in the area, you know, they're important
[1:25:36] their part of our history and just like everything around here. It
[1:25:44] should be added in and I think
[1:25:47] the vision statement, the vision statement. Right.
[1:25:58] Well, versions obviously again, we won't just still open for a comment. Please, thank you. Thank
[1:26:02] you all for taking that out. Public as well to anybody you know, when asking them to look at it
[1:26:08] and we would love to gather feedback. I did not think to ask how we should gather that feedback
[1:26:14] I didn't intend I'd do it to put more work on to staff for this either, but is there a way if somebody does decide to watch this video and wants the comment or through any of the channels
[1:26:24] helpful media to make sure it is but that there's some feedback received.
[1:26:28] Maybe do that, Sarah?
[1:26:32] On the mission of the agency.
[1:26:34] Can we get better?
[1:26:39] Can we have to?
[1:26:40] Good.
[1:26:42] I don't mean to help to further write on options.
[1:26:47] around-table discussions with stakeholders,
[1:26:53] surveys, with this piece that I understand
[1:26:57] it,
[1:27:00] the process and exploring and collecting feedback is still appropriate, but with
[1:27:07] other post changes with some of the documents we would need conceptual approval by the board,
[1:27:15] and there's other
[1:27:19] processes and structure, you can consider.
[1:27:27] So besides the survey piece,
[1:27:29] the round table discussion, better.
[1:27:33] Can you be supposed to do the library?
[1:27:36] Library's big, but that's a pretty useful.
[1:27:42] Some of our sites,
[1:27:45] with passive displays,
[1:27:48] we get a lot of interaction by the public,
[1:27:53] but just putting a crop on a whiteboard, a glass reveal in particular,
[1:28:01] it's surprising how much
[1:28:04] the public will interact with some of those passive displays at a particular location.
[1:28:12] So that would be a way of gaining some kind of micro, kind of input.
[1:28:19] So
[1:28:23] we were working on my Mr. T. Cran,
[1:28:25] who did a council, several times all the time.
[1:28:29] I think that would be
[1:28:34] back what they wanted,
[1:28:36] what do you find in a kind of a video?
[1:28:39] No, no, no.
[1:28:40] So is there a passage for that?
[1:28:42] That sounds wonderful,
[1:28:43] but I really don't want to ask or,
[1:28:45] in a basic liquidity sort of,
[1:28:47] stand up by us or hear it.
[1:28:49] I think passive is okay.
[1:28:51] If we were to set it out,
[1:28:53] survey student or channels,
[1:28:54] but I'd love to do more. That sounds great too, but I differ. Or perhaps posted on the museum's
[1:29:00] landing page, the Google Home, people can fill it out. It's like there. And we're asking for more
[1:29:08] asking for their feedback.
[1:29:13] Yeah. Should we include a definition of what a mission statement is? Yes.
[1:29:17] I think that there is between vision and mission, at least.
[1:29:21] It might help some people to see that national thing go up.
[1:29:25] Oh, it's a goal.
[1:29:32] So we shouldn't at the moment, but to the degree that there may be capacity to do anything of any kind.
[1:29:38] And then certainly for my part, anybody else from the Commission feels strongly like I, you know, I would,
[1:29:44] if there was opportunity to do something in person as well.
[1:29:48] That's great.
[1:29:48] I started to become in staff and help to do that, right, so that there is such a burden on you.
[1:29:55] So, and then I'm taking it out and I encourage every commissioner to do that, too.
[1:30:00] To your friends, you're respected, you know, colleagues who are in the community and involved.
[1:30:07] We would like them not only to give feedback but to be aware of this, that we're involving the community and this gives a conversation.
[1:30:15] So that we together, om, this mission statement, the most of them using anything that promotes the museum.
[1:30:24] Okay, thank you for allowing us to go through that. We already went through public comments.
[1:30:29] We are now at the 25, 10, 68, and we actually don't have a lot of time left to do that
[1:30:38] and the Western Railroad and research group updates and then final comments and then
[1:30:44] public forum.
[1:30:44] We have sufficient time.
[1:30:47] Why don't we, I would propose to do this, again, this is sort of one of the things we're
[1:30:51] trying to, depending we've now solved for a little bit with an expansion of the consent calendar
[1:30:57] session agenda, probably solves the problem for us in the longer term, but I don't think
[1:31:03] we're going to try and necessarily get through all four things. Let's just do one and then we'll
[1:31:08] see where we're at and do a second if we feel like we're okay on time. I don't want to cut off the
[1:31:14] Western Railroad or the research room where the Commissioner comments does, so it might be might
[1:31:18] just get through one or two of the items of the spreadsheet to keep us on track through a five
[1:31:23] clock, Rapa, does that sound reasonable?
[1:31:28] Okay, any projection I should ask, really specifically
[1:31:31] to do so. Okay. Then let's proceed into, with Sean's help here too, and I believe
[1:31:38] they're on the screen also, yes. So let's look at the first item together, and that
[1:31:44] is, oh, the Charles Peter, we've been talking about. Yeah, we've already, right? I'm ready
[1:31:50] So, this is a first edition of the Hott of Biography of Charles Peters.
[1:31:55] It was donated by Alex Marshall to the museum.
[1:32:03] It specifically focuses on his time as a plaster painter.
[1:32:08] So, through the 1850s, you can see it was priced at 50 cents when it was published in 1915.
[1:32:18] So, I'm published in Sacramento.
[1:32:20] So great.
[1:32:25] So we were given that first edition cup, it's not an excellent shape, you can see it's a little waterlogged.
[1:32:31] I think I see a coffee mug stain.
[1:32:34] But it is over 100 years old.
[1:32:37] So that's all I have to share on it, sir.
[1:32:41] How big is it?
[1:32:42] Look about six inches by ten inches.
[1:32:50] That's a good question, maybe with future photos, we'll have something in the reverse scale.
[1:32:57] I thought it was smaller.
[1:32:59] Yeah, it's a design.
[1:33:02] Why won't we accept this?
[1:33:06] I second the motion.
[1:33:09] Just real fast I'll add to that.
[1:33:11] I'm just checking online to see available copies.
[1:33:14] There are no available copies online.
[1:33:16] So yeah, so on eight blocks or on, yeah, so this is at least at the moment relatively rare.
[1:33:27] I want you to see it.
[1:33:29] I want you to see it.
[1:33:30] It says there's a PDF.
[1:33:32] Right, digital versions are available.
[1:33:37] Well, then I'll end well.
[1:33:39] I think I think I'll wait for him to come back just to get sure he's got some cold just a minute on that.
[1:33:44] I don't see any other copies. There's a modern printings that are available in heart cover
[1:33:50] and go for $80 as a modern printing. So something, you know, Vittola is not even listed.
[1:34:00] Wow. Great.
[1:34:04] Why don't we go to the second item and then just to keep us going,
[1:34:07] where we've already been, we'll hold on a vote on that one until it's back.
[1:34:15] This one's a bit more. I mean, my concern is he's not in the room,
[1:34:19] and then we begin reviewing something that he also didn't get to weigh in on her.
[1:34:24] Can we answer her?
[1:34:25] We have pictures of each of these things.
[1:34:28] Um, we do, right there.
[1:34:31] There's some photos.
[1:34:33] This was a box, and I wanted to give a little bit more context to it.
[1:34:38] Uh, that we, oh good.
[1:34:40] Thank you.
[1:34:43] We're just at a stage where we're going to vote on that book.
[1:34:48] And we also just did a quick research and there's none available online at all at the moment at least.
[1:34:56] And so the general feeling to individuals already from the Commission has...
[1:35:00] To head, the motion has been made to accept it, and seconded, it would want to bear it to public.
[1:35:05] Oh, yes, yes. Public comment. Exactly.
[1:35:09] Forget the public. Yeah, before we all put that on the second itself.
[1:35:13] Thank you very much for that.
[1:35:14] I'm putting online. How about in the room?
[1:35:17] Any comment on this item's potential for accession?
[1:35:20] Yeah, I think it's said, I can't get in the caution if it's great.
[1:35:27] I'd say yes.
[1:35:29] There's a book mentioned Elrodicuni or Plexiglor or anything.
[1:35:34] Look at this.
[1:35:34] Guess is this time in several mining camps, including Plasterville, and it is a Plasterbiner.
[1:35:39] To see which is Plasterbiner, I think.
[1:35:44] In a future thing too, I doubt we know the answer to this, but maybe we do.
[1:35:48] He knows it does.
[1:35:49] The library or the museum suggests this already.
[1:35:52] That would be another factor, which I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, regardless
[1:35:55] I do, if we know that right now, I don't think that stops us from.
[1:35:57] voting. We don't happen to know that for like, I'm guessing. Okay, Chris will go
[1:36:02] into it. Yeah.
[1:36:06] So
[1:36:09] far, we don't likely have to relatively small library documented
[1:36:14] at the museums and I do love that logo. It is a really good logo. And you'll notice
[1:36:21] that our open source catalog, which is fully customizable, we have that banner for
[1:36:25] the summer reading challenge. And so when folks search for certain names,
[1:36:29] They, like, historical collections, we can have a bear that pops up and it links to the museum.
[1:36:36] The bear, right?
[1:36:37] The highlighting of certain things.
[1:36:38] We have a lot of something.
[1:36:40] This is on show.
[1:36:41] Yeah.
[1:36:42] It's this rare occasion.
[1:36:43] Yeah.
[1:36:43] It's not really an original.
[1:36:45] Then I read about it.
[1:36:47] I don't necessarily think that stops us from bringing it in.
[1:37:00] And he was primarily in Calibaris and in Amidor counties.
[1:37:04] But he did come through here across the scales of different fields.
[1:37:07] So would you scroll down and click up like what
[1:37:31] it is the ship to your local branch and then you can borrow it
[1:37:37] It's a good train. So just
[1:37:40] I'll use it and close the rare books
[1:37:43] Yeah, I wouldn't think so it depends some libraries will live in certain things that others will not
[1:37:49] Yeah, but it's always it's always worth a shot
[1:37:56] So because this item already exists within the county library system and the original
[1:38:04] painting, does that change how the commission feels about accepting this particular
[1:38:10] donation?
[1:38:15] I think these are good.
[1:38:24] All I have to do is to admit you are aware that
[1:38:32] people willing to pay a
[1:38:35] crazy amount
[1:38:38] of space amongst the top value.
[1:38:43] The reason I'm saying this and the reason it's relevant is that even though
[1:38:49] we may have another copy. I think it gets a valid question to wonder whether if this copy
[1:38:56] in our position donated to us, we're going to go back out into the public. Does it
[1:39:03] it persist? Will it be as well cared for as preserve, just protected as with us? I would
[1:39:11] argue it's hard to imagine. It's accessible as with us. And I would say we should jump
[1:39:18] that the opportunity to continue to do that
[1:39:20] and make as long as it's accessible, which I'm just carrying on.
[1:39:24] The price of the first, the second edition of it,
[1:39:28] the $80,000 you can find online.
[1:39:30] I guess that's what we've got in our store.
[1:39:34] I would find it unusual to have that.
[1:39:37] I have to pay within the wrong impression, too.
[1:39:39] I didn't mean to say that we should agree about this.
[1:39:41] I was just hearing that it works back.
[1:39:43] That's, I hope I didn't come across that way.
[1:39:45] I really only met, like that people value this for the high dollar value for a reason, and in the case that it didn't fall into the hands of somebody who's got money and caught these types.
[1:40:01] Who would presumably take great care of it, actually, if it happened to fall, somebody who couldn't, you know, or it doesn't have the same ability to protect it, we know we have to do it again times, that's where I was coming. Yeah, okay.
[1:40:12] But you're not for that. I've never had that, but I'm not for that much.
[1:40:17] I'm not gonna say it.
[1:40:21] I'm not going to start.
[1:40:22] I'm not sorry, but I'm looking.
[1:40:24] I'm looking call for the book.
[1:40:27] Time to vote. So all in favor?
[1:40:30] I'm not going to be right.
[1:40:31] And he's...
[1:40:33] Unathus.
[1:40:35] Thank you.
[1:40:35] That's just for my confusion.
[1:40:37] You do believe the book is in the museum.
[1:40:40] We do believe it.
[1:40:41] Yes, I do believe it.
[1:40:43] Sorry, I'm not going to be there.
[1:40:48] So it is 441.
[1:40:50] Do we want to continue out?
[1:40:52] This one's huge.
[1:40:53] This has at least 20 items that I would have to describe each one that are within that case.
[1:41:00] So.
[1:41:01] I wouldn't.
[1:41:02] I would ask for a portion.
[1:41:03] No, that's no.
[1:41:04] It's a now.
[1:41:05] Oh, the other item is on the agenda.
[1:41:07] In my opinion, that's nice.
[1:41:09] I make a motion then to move this into our presumably newly adopted process.
[1:41:15] where we're going to have this spreadsheet available to us online and we will review that
[1:41:22] and make it available to the public, additionally,
[1:41:26] so that we can do this pace incredibly.
[1:41:30] Knowing at the end acknowledging that we will add supplemental, please information on the items.
[1:41:37] this isn't really just the particular item as is there's a lot of detail that needs to be added.
[1:41:49] In the objection to moving on in the agenda,
[1:41:53] hence we shall do so to use the program updates,
[1:41:57] Elder Water, Westford River.
[1:41:59] But I think you've seen a motion to continue and move this to the new format.
[1:42:03] Why did I guess I didn't follow the formality of that?
[1:42:07] You did ask for discussion.
[1:42:09] Here's what we can use a consensus vote.
[1:42:12] All right, if you make a motion and there's no discussion, then you're assuming everybody's
[1:42:19] going okay, because otherwise somebody said, well, wait, we need to talk about this some more.
[1:42:23] So you can take a consensus vote and that can move the agenda.
[1:42:27] So here we are looking at limited time.
[1:42:29] We can't do that at these items, but if you don't, if
[1:42:36] this has to be voted on, if you
[1:42:38] in a motion within the meeting here say what's the meeting's already right research that too
[1:42:43] but the moment change I think I looked at it at the counter. Okay so for the moment
[1:42:55] at least we were just follow our process there I did I made a motion did I go through public
[1:43:01] comment I guess not is there any public comment on this at this time yeah that's large
[1:43:06] collection that needs to be discussed. Thank you. Okay. Do I have a second? I second. All in favor.
[1:43:15] I have a time. Any nice. Moving on to, I'll rather I was familiar. Thank you. The
[1:43:24] summer has been kind to us. The temperatures have been warm, but not cold. The ridership has been
[1:43:33] maximizing both the Schingel and El Dorado, including the 12 o'clock noon and the
[1:43:39] one o'clock at the noon runs, which tended to fall up and hotter periods of time.
[1:43:44] So our train master and crew are very surprised and impressed and thankful, and so the program
[1:43:52] has been maximizing with the yellow cars, which we call them, the tracking anchors.
[1:43:58] We also are now moving quite close just having the first run of the full site as equipment.
[1:44:06] We're going to have a rehearsal run, I think, a week from tomorrow.
[1:44:13] We're having some volunteers and family and friends on board to act as light loads,
[1:44:20] and that will be our dress down in preparation for it.
[1:44:23] and August having the first pre-announced P.R.
[1:44:28] Saturday, two runs with the full size equipment
[1:44:31] in Melbourne, 02, very fat road and back.
[1:44:35] I think that run times would be probably 10 and 12, 30,
[1:44:40] I'm Saturday.
[1:44:42] Again, this isn't working progress,
[1:44:44] but we're very, very close.
[1:44:47] And I believe that it's time that we get out there
[1:44:51] show that folks that they have other opportunities to ride with us and riding on the full
[1:44:56] sidestop is different than a smaller corner.
[1:45:00] But anyway,
[1:45:04] we have had a wonderful, supportive, major by the Eagle Scouts and they've been several
[1:45:13] men working on special projects. I think I may have mentioned that one of them replaced the hard
[1:45:17] maple, or marked maple, would flooring in the 65-10 locomotive of Schengel. And he and his father
[1:45:27] then also provided a sustaining donation to the organization.
[1:45:33] So we look forward to a active relationship
[1:45:36] with the Eagle Scout Program.
[1:45:38] So for it, we are impacted discussions
[1:45:43] with the County regarding property tax on the building
[1:45:47] at Schengel, the freight shed, if you will.
[1:45:51] The property belongs to joint powers.
[1:45:53] It's the corridor.
[1:45:54] But the building was donated to us as a rare rate foundation for tax purposes and it worked out very well except that the county is saying a wait a minute.
[1:46:07] You guys are not in profit, but you have a proprietary coffee program working in the building and they're paying you rent.
[1:46:14] So, you have to pay property tax on the building.
[1:46:19] So, we're trying to come to some of what the remit
[1:46:21] as to, since we're a public benefit, not profit,
[1:46:26] volunteer trips, and we're just using the money that we receive from
[1:46:30] the rent of the building to pay our insurance premium.
[1:46:33] So, we can give rise.
[1:46:35] So, we're in the middle of this entire Rubik's Cube,
[1:46:39] and I'm not quite sure, I think we will have to just accept
[1:46:42] property taxation. But we are working now with the new risk manager to see if there's any chance
[1:46:51] we can be immersed into the overall county liability insurance umbrella, which is huge. And we're over
[1:47:00] here in this little pebble of operation, but that 11, 12,000 a year, that is a serious infringement
[1:47:12] our ability to develop programs because all we're doing is paying the insurance premium.
[1:47:18] So anyway, those things are going on and we have a good strong cadre of volunteers
[1:47:25] and one of our young men was with us several years ago and then he went off to the
[1:47:31] Wyoming and became a diesel technician. He's back and he's now a diesel technician for us
[1:47:38] along with having a key to employment elsewhere for himself.
[1:47:43] But he's now probably going to be the inaugural engineer on the big train run
[1:47:49] and not the August, he has good skills.
[1:47:52] So we're doing good, even though it's the hot days of summer
[1:47:57] and the people are still coming out and riding and we're very thankful.
[1:48:03] So we'll continue and see you guys on the train.
[1:48:07] What are you talking about?
[1:48:09] Are you talking public?
[1:48:12] There are any comments from the commissioners for questions.
[1:48:17] Well, turn to public comments.
[1:48:19] Nobody online.
[1:48:20] How about isn't it worth?
[1:48:22] So what if you're doing that?
[1:48:24] I'm not sure.
[1:48:27] I'm not sure.
[1:48:27] I just assume.
[1:48:28] I have not seen that.
[1:48:29] I assume it's a large.
[1:48:30] Thank you.
[1:48:31] Cool.
[1:48:33] Thank you.
[1:48:33] Good booths is 1941 Southern Pacific people look at booths and in fact you're gaining
[1:48:40] doctor-wise if you run into a stage coach from Mugwag and around a class ago I think
[1:48:45] I heard a younger he was a young breakman in the 1960s and that very booths I heard that
[1:48:53] and anyway so that's the booths and then we have a 1929 US Army flatcar that was in the
[1:49:03] we hold some of the patents tanks around them for a while along with a lot of other
[1:49:07] flatcards, but the nice thing is they don't get used very much in the
[1:49:12] illiterate service. They set up sightings most terrible. So our excursion car with a
[1:49:18] half roof, nice seats, safety gates, and chains, and so on. That's 1929 flatcard.
[1:49:26] The locomotive we're going to be using is an 1810 Plymouth switch engine. It's our
[1:49:32] smallest locomotive actually, but it is, it has the newest diesel engine in it, and I think
[1:49:38] that's 1953. Anyway, that was donated to us by certain T-corporation from Chuck
[1:49:44] Charlotte, California. We have the two larger diesels, which will be incorporated, but
[1:49:51] they're both a shingle, and we cannot move them to El Dorado, because they would wrestle
[1:49:57] with the overall y needs some repair.
[1:50:00] We're working with county and the JPA to try to see how to get those repairs fine hats to the
[1:50:07] trestles. You know, the heavier locomotives can roll home.
[1:50:13] I just want you out to wear. Be comfortable. You can wear bribal rolls and a blue shambry shirt and
[1:50:22] a pair of boots and they'll put you to work breaking on the train. Or you can just come
[1:50:27] is comfortably well and sit down in a nice seat underneath the roof so there's no sun
[1:50:32] right beating down on your head and just lean back and relax and listen to the train
[1:50:37] and the track and be prepared to wave it people at the crossings because that's your duty
[1:50:42] if you're on the train.
[1:50:43] You got to wave it down.
[1:50:44] Is there going to be wave that you?
[1:50:48] Anyway, you sure it feels good to have that if I did a bunch of Marshalls there for you.
[1:50:52] Yeah, yeah, we have it for a good but you know earlier but that's okay.
[1:50:56] No, that's fine. Anyway, so things are things even given the heat of summer.
[1:51:02] It's been productive and we're staying for a week until this week.
[1:51:07] Yeah.
[1:51:07] On a road a few weeks back, and there was so many people.
[1:51:11] We actually came up our tickets to a young couple that they're kids, you know, because the kids, I mean,
[1:51:17] Yeah.
[1:51:17] So sure.
[1:51:17] So sure.
[1:51:18] So sure.
[1:51:18] So sure.
[1:51:19] where you had El Dorado or at Schengel, Schengel, Schengel,
[1:51:22] OK.
[1:51:23] That's still a longer than two runs.
[1:51:25] And it goes up and it goes right around by the freeway,
[1:51:28] and in through what was the only tunnel on that right at road.
[1:51:31] And so, both of those runs,
[1:51:34] we work to interpret and provide,
[1:51:37] you know, stylized information for.
[1:51:40] And I think they're both pleasant, although the El Dorado
[1:51:43] run is, because they're a bit shorter.
[1:51:47] Thank you for that.
[1:51:47] It's very positive.
[1:51:50] Okay, we'll move next to the research route.
[1:51:53] I don't know who might move.
[1:51:55] That looks like a race.
[1:51:56] I think he's our character.
[1:51:58] Okay.
[1:51:59] Oh, research route.
[1:52:01] Do you tell?
[1:52:05] So the research route is...
[1:52:08] We had our song opening.
[1:52:10] We are officially open on Thursdays.
[1:52:16] the place, from trouble to four, see what else
[1:52:21] probably we're going to take.
[1:52:22] And, first, of point because I can
[1:52:24] have someone to say,
[1:52:27] first is the four, the diem, four lasts,
[1:52:29] so it actually gets paid and
[1:52:34] chose to do arrested talking on a baby Hassos.
[1:52:40] Yeah, I've seen, or we've had
[1:52:43] an additional increase come through email.
[1:52:47] And so I think we'll, I mean, we'll definitely see an increase at a
[1:52:52] verb time, but as far as, yeah, soft dopamine, and that's been,
[1:52:56] basically that scroll's great to have in the museum open.
[1:52:59] Two days a week, and as we continue to move forward, they'll be additional
[1:53:05] opportunities to promote on social and through other channels.
[1:53:10] So
[1:53:14] we think it was Kelly.
[1:53:17] How many questions do you think we're
[1:53:22] going to be?
[1:53:22] I don't know, I don't know, I think we're going to be there.
[1:53:25] I just said, wait, then we got a lot of research requests
[1:53:28] during the fair and after the fair.
[1:53:32] So we're going to be fine.
[1:53:34] But I think, well, it was overwhelming.
[1:53:38] It was overwhelming, but it wrote it to both.
[1:53:41] And I was playing with the next one.
[1:53:47] through being open again and the stuff,
[1:53:49] honest from permission to draw it like you're at that.
[1:53:52] So happy to see that accessible and see the demand
[1:53:56] is obviously still there for it, just not
[1:53:58] scoring importance of supporting that.
[1:54:03] Are there any other comments to add at this time
[1:54:06] from the commission from
[1:54:09] the public,
[1:54:10] no need online, how about in the room,
[1:54:13] Jerry representing the public again?
[1:54:16] But I think it's one more research room,
[1:54:22] which is which I had and the history in the area.
[1:54:26] I do, because I have ordered microfeature from the U.S.S. Bay Archives in Canada.
[1:54:33] I have them sent through the library, the library, and I can sit at a computer and look at things that go,
[1:54:39] oh my gosh, the library and go, what do you find there?
[1:54:43] So, a research route is amazing. It's such a good thing to have. And yeah, can't we?
[1:54:56] Okay, we're going to move to Commissioner comments that is open.
[1:55:00] At this time, for any additional comments that any commissioner may wish to make?
[1:55:08] Well, I think all of you have the opportunity to go through the museum before we started, or we should come back again.
[1:55:22] Plan to be there on Saturday.
[1:55:24] Come in tomorrow morning.
[1:55:27] Yeah, it's tomorrow.
[1:55:30] And we can accommodate visits throughout the week as well, so feel free to reach out.
[1:55:38] They know that there's rules around being a commission.
[1:55:45] So if there's a particular day and kind of works best for you,
[1:55:48] you can just reach out to me directly.
[1:55:51] Thank you very much.
[1:55:53] Just can't talk.
[1:55:54] So, that's interesting. So they couldn't, they're all couldn't cover good things.
[1:56:02] From my understanding and the discussed commission.
[1:56:05] I don't think it gives that any reason.
[1:56:08] As a conversation.
[1:56:11] Yeah, there's various rules around all of that.
[1:56:13] That's why with the visit right before we open and viewing the space.
[1:56:22] be a
[1:56:26] segment more than two commissioners at a time.
[1:56:33] Either events coming up that we want to just comment on for public
[1:56:36] either a camera member, honestly.
[1:56:38] Things related to any of your other groups.
[1:56:41] The commissioners may want to share that maybe related to history or
[1:56:43] historical museum or otherwise.
[1:56:46] Historical Society has a historic built,
[1:56:49] fiber arts and textile show that will be taking place at
[1:56:55] I won five Main Street, the store post office building in Plasterville on all day, on July
[1:57:07] 19th, and the found in Talman Museum has on long from the County Museum.
[1:57:14] Some historical quilts and I believe dresses, next styles that will be on display at the
[1:57:25] and attend the show, there is going to be all kinds of activities, live demonstrations, and that will be very exciting.
[1:57:35] And then on the 25th of July, at the Larson Family Park, will be the Alberta County Historical Society's Summer Luncheon.
[1:57:46] It is members only, but you can always join the Society and the Larson Family has been gracious enough to open up their park.
[1:57:55] There will be a book talk from author Maggie Gorrell who will be, she's coming from South
[1:58:03] Lake Tahoe, her neighborhood Tahoe Meadows is on the National Register and she wrote a book
[1:58:09] about it and it's a very protected and well-preserved public land and so she'll be giving
[1:58:21] us up full 100 year history, the homesteaders who originally built cabins there, that'll be the keynote speaker, so that's what's upcoming.
[1:58:33] The Oregon California Trail Association on Sunday, Sunday, the 20th of the day after that.
[1:58:41] What's up?
[1:58:42] Attaining a hike on Holly Gray, going all the way down,
[1:58:45] you know, for Michael Summary, to pursue the fun Christmas Valley.
[1:58:54] And we did it last year, and it's really exciting.
[1:58:59] Gerald, you're presiding at the back of the team.
[1:59:01] Oh, wonderful.
[1:59:02] I have a table.
[1:59:04] On that's right.
[1:59:05] I'm not organizing this.
[1:59:07] OK, yeah.
[1:59:08] I have a table there.
[1:59:09] Now, you're going to have some I have an anti-covered lid and all these things that show different.
[1:59:17] Okay, thank
[1:59:22] you.
[1:59:22] If you haven't seen that building recently 515 the start building there, it's worth going in.
[1:59:28] Again, if you haven't been in a while, it is in the process of some renovation and restoration.
[1:59:33] Restoration.
[1:59:34] Thank you.
[1:59:35] She's the right word.
[1:59:36] They're restoration.
[1:59:38] It's impressive.
[1:59:38] And if you go to our same park, rumor has it that one of the oldest apple trees in the
[1:59:49] county, for you to decide.
[1:59:53] That's the word.
[1:59:56] That's because you can keep saying that.
[2:00:00] And really encourage people, really encourage people to make the third Saturdays, as the downtown merchants are trying to preserve the history, as we're not getting any help from the city fathers economically, making it more difficult to do things downtown. We try and really hard to keep our history out of front.
[2:00:30] You're part of this merchant's group, right?
[2:00:32] Well, my gallery is...
[2:00:34] I don't know, that's original, I don't know.
[2:00:37] You talk with these guys that went to charge you,
[2:00:40] they're really working at old-time family events
[2:00:44] happening downtown and trying to preserve that.
[2:00:49] And we have to have people showing up to make that work.
[2:00:53] Right? Just like a real...
[2:00:55] Yes, sir.
[2:00:55] Have the wrap up laughing? I just want to ask
[2:00:57] is on fairer last comments, either from the public, from staff, anybody else's last comments?
[2:01:06] Okay, great meeting, lots of that we covered. Thank you for it and you're going to get that list.
[2:01:10] It's a point of the various items that we'll have this commissioners that you'll want to review
[2:01:15] in between and please take the provision and mission statement to it to you everywhere you go.
[2:01:21] and ask people, what do you think and bring that feedback back
[2:01:26] what you use, you know, your conversations so that we can talk about that next month again.
[2:01:30] Thank you. Thank you all.
[2:01:31] Thank you all.
[2:01:33] We heard George.
[2:01:35] We'll be sitting.
[2:01:35] No, I'm sitting. Let's go back.
[2:01:37] Good to see you.
[2:01:39] Yeah, sit.