1 00:00:22,190 --> 00:00:24,190 A.C.U.I. have a question for you. 2 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:59,340 Anybody? Just want to do a sound check and video check before we start. If you can hear me, or I should say, if you can't hear me, either raise or say something or maybe say something to chat or whatever, so that we know that you have some technical challenges. I would, I'm going to try to speak as loud as I can keeping the mask on. Also, if you can mute yourself. 3 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,800 during the course of the meeting the entire time and that only unmute yourself before you want to say something 4 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:15,580 when when allowed so by the chair and also please say your name before saying anything for the 5 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:21,260 court reporter that's in the in the council chamber. So here with us is the chair, 6 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:28,840 J. Cox, we have a court reporter, myself, Demir and then we have some staff members of a video crew 7 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,940 and then there's some public here in the audience as well. 8 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:39,780 So we will start shortly, the chairman will make some announcements at the beginning and we'll 9 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:44,600 probably say the same thing to keep your mic muted until you have to say something. 10 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,620 So we would appreciate your cooperation. 11 00:17:46,820 --> 00:17:51,880 This is our first one where we have quite a lot of people on, understandably, but we've 12 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,700 done the Zoom meetings quite a few times, so hopefully we'll go find it. 13 00:17:57,660 --> 00:17:59,060 Thank you, thank you very much. 14 00:21:57,810 --> 00:22:13,390 All right. Good evening, everyone. The time is 7 o'clock. Like to call to order the January 10th, 2020, 2020, 2022, it's a tongue twister, session of the City 15 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:29,960 of 16 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,040 all this? 17 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:36,860 Yeah. 18 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:38,340 Commissioner, will there move? 19 00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:39,300 Can you guys hear me? 20 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,200 Yes. 21 00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:43,400 Thank you. 22 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Commissioner, will there move? 23 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:46,180 Here. 24 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,760 And Chairman Cox. 25 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Present. 26 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:50,140 We have four. 27 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:52,860 Thank you, and as you say, we can check out 28 00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:54,480 with Commissioner Lopez. 29 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:56,420 All right. 30 00:22:57,100 --> 00:23:02,780 First item on the agenda for this first agenda of 2022 is the approval 31 00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:06,540 of the meeting minutes from the December 6th, 2021 session. 32 00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:07,980 Are there any comments? 33 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,540 If so, please state them now, or if not, the chair will entertain 34 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:14,360 emotion for the approval of those meeting minutes. 35 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,180 The minute, it says, Karen, it's Jones. 36 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:20,620 Thank you. 37 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:21,680 Second, this is Nancy. 38 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Excellent. 39 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:28,580 We appreciate the first, the second, and the names with that. 40 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,880 So staff, please call the roll. 41 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,500 Commissioner Jones? 42 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:34,480 Commissioner Abwali? 43 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:37,150 Yes. 44 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:44,930 Commissioner Magala? Yes. Commissioner Valdez? Yes. Commissioner Brilder 45 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:53,990 Move? Yes. And Chairman Cox? Yes. Minister Approved, 60-0. All right, thank you. 46 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:59,010 Right, next item on the agenda is the Chairman's opening statement. I want to 47 00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:05,230 take the opportunity to welcome all of you to this session. There are a few 48 00:24:05,230 --> 00:24:12,390 Well, five now, people who have joined us this evening in the council chambers, city staff, 49 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:18,470 even the AV crew looks a little light tonight with just one person on will be relying on 50 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:25,710 and you more so tonight than ever probably to make Zoom work, a court reporter, and then myself. 51 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:31,550 So we're kind of light here in the council chambers, but we know we're joined by a lot of you on Zoom 52 00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:39,150 and we're glad that although COVID is appearing to rear its ugly head that we've got this 53 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:46,050 technology that we can continue to do business in the city and that we actually have five items 54 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:52,650 on the agenda tonight. So that's exciting. We're keeping things moving and this isn't going to keep 55 00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:59,350 us down. As I said, we get five items in the agenda and we'll hear more about each of those coming 56 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:59,950 sometimes we... 57 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,720 A little summary, but I think just moving on for the sake of time is probably good. 58 00:25:06,460 --> 00:25:12,920 As we kind of hinted at the start with a few of us here, this meeting will be run primarily via Zoom. 59 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:25,480 So, if maybe you were on a few minutes ago, you might have already heard Demir say this, but if you're not speaking, please make sure your mics are muted, whether you're on the computer, on the phone, whatever it may be. 60 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:32,320 I think at this point in time, we're choosing not to mute you because we don't want to make it difficult for you to unmute yourself when it's your time. 61 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:39,880 So if you can keep your mic muted until you're recognized, so we call your name to go ahead and speak. 62 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:48,480 We will ask for your patience, especially when it comes to the public hearing portion of these petitions, when we may say, 63 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,960 you know, who member would like to comment now as your opportunity. If we've got a couple 64 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,020 people speaking at the same time, we'll do our best to try to figure out, you know, who to 65 00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:03,440 recognize and hopefully everyone can just get along and do this in an orderly fashion, we'd 66 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:12,640 appreciate it. I think the next thing to focus on, just to talk about the procedure is, 67 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,160 although the media is different tonight, 68 00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:18,500 the procedure remains the same. 69 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,860 That is, with these five petitions, 70 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,820 we will look to city staff to open the petition 71 00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:26,220 to go through the staff report. 72 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,400 Anything they'd like to highlight for us, 73 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,120 as a commission will take the opportunity 74 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,640 to ask questions of staff. 75 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,000 At that point in time, 76 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,420 we'll either call the petition or team up to the lectern 77 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:40,580 or demirial introduce those parties. 78 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:47,740 and the petitioner team can work out who's speaking, what order, and go through any 79 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:51,640 comments they'd like to add. Again, as a commission, we will take the opportunity to ask 80 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:59,720 questions of the petitioner team. And then we open the each petition up to public comment. 81 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,600 And not knowing who is on each petition, or we'll like to comment for each petition, we'll 82 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,400 start with the council chambers, and then we'll move to Zoom. 83 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,120 Then once all the comments are heard, if there's anything that needs to be answered by the 84 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,380 petitioner team, we'll give them an opportunity to answer those questions. 85 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:26,740 And then as a commission, we will deliberate and make a motion to approve or deny. 86 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,800 And the app following that, those will be our recommendations to City Council, following 87 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:38,600 with that, there's typically two meetings for City Council and staff can direct you as to what 88 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,000 those dates may be. This part applies more to the petitioner team. Tonight, as far as the commission, 89 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:52,360 I think it again for the sake of order. I'm going to call the same order as we consider each motion. 90 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:59,720 So, it starts with Commissioner Abwali, then Jones, Lopez, Megala, and Feldez and the World 91 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:07,220 move. So if you commissioners can kind of be ready in turn, that would be helpful. I believe 92 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:13,180 at this point in time then we can move on to the next item and that will be again a challenging 93 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:18,680 one. But we will turn this over to the court reporter and I believe she has a fire in order 94 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,900 how she would like those of you who would like to be, who member would like to speak tonight 95 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:46,350 to 96 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:50,330 We know everyone's going to do their best and tell the truth anyway, but it's an important 97 00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:55,990 part of the procedure, so we appreciate everyone jumping on board to run along with that. 98 00:28:56,210 --> 00:29:00,130 All right, we're going to move on now to item F, where we have our five items. 99 00:29:00,430 --> 00:29:05,490 The first is a conditional use at 10, 20 summit street, and do me a take it away. 100 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:13,040 Thank you, Chairman Cox, and for the record, we do have proof of proper notice for this 101 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,460 point. 102 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:17,220 Good evening, everybody, here in the audience and at home. 103 00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:23,960 The first application is the application by David Schafer's Applicants and EREP 104 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,920 cobblercrossing to LLC is property owner, who are requesting a conditionally used to establish 105 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,440 a physical fitness facility of the property commonly referred to as 1020 Summary Street units 106 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,860 A and B. 107 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:50,970 So, the subject property is a 6,000 square foot tenant space within the multi-tent and 108 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:57,750 multi-building cobbler processing shopping center, which is zone A, B area business district, 109 00:29:57,910 --> 00:29:59,950 and it's also part of the office. 110 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:24,020 Our territorial road corridor overlay district. The shopping center is outlined in yellow on the slide. The subject tenant space is outlined in red. It's on the on the west end of the property. As you can see the properties to the west and to the south are also zone the same red shade and those are also zone commercial AB. 111 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,900 The property to the west is vacant, but was recently approved for a mixed-use development 112 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:38,020 known as the Bellicasa Square that will have 151 dwelling units and about 13,000 square feet of commercial space. 113 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,080 And then to the south, our couple properties, one being vacant, the other one will improve with a medical office building. 114 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:55,040 To the east and to the north are residential properties zone PRC plan residence conservation and those are improved with multifamily buildings. 115 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:10,900 Here's a bird's eye view of the subject property in question. Again, the tenant spaces on the west end. There are two multi tenant buildings part of the shopping center. The tenant space are units A and D at 1020 summit building. 116 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:17,120 The shopping center also includes the total of 517 parking spaces that are shared amongst 117 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,980 all tenants. 118 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,880 There are also three outlots along Summit Street to improve the bank buildings and one 119 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,660 is the restaurant Taco Bell. 120 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,800 Here are a couple of photos of the subject building. 121 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,740 This was the space and the top left that was formerly occupied by a restaurant. 122 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:44,240 So, the applicant is proposing to establish a physical fitness facility, any time fitness, within the 123 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,340 680 square foot space, those are the units A and B again. 124 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:55,080 The proposed fitness facility would be open 24 hours a day to the members, staff would be present 125 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:01,120 on site Monday for Friday from approximately 10 a.m. to 7 p.m., the facility would offer 126 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:08,040 different types of exercise equipment and the variety of classes on the slide here is the area 127 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,560 of the space that where the classes would take place, that it's known as the purple turf, 128 00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:18,780 that the classes held there would max out at 10 participants per class. 129 00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:25,200 The space is primarily open space. The applicant would create three individual changing rooms 130 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,620 two of which would have shower facilities. There would also be two office, two office private 131 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:32,740 offices for staff. 132 00:32:34,810 --> 00:32:37,810 The proposal is required to meet the standards for conditional use. 133 00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:44,210 Staff has provided our analysis of the standards in the packet, and we do believe that all 134 00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:49,330 applicable standards have been satisfied. Therefore staff recommends approval subject to the 135 00:32:49,330 --> 00:32:55,510 conditions outlined in the packet. We would that at the happy to answer any questions. The applicant is 136 00:32:55,510 --> 00:32:57,690 So here's his team that can address the commission. 137 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:59,990 Thank you, we look forward to that. 138 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:01,910 Starting with Commissioner Abwali, 139 00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:03,750 do you have questions for our staff? 140 00:33:04,830 --> 00:33:05,870 No, no questions. 141 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:07,730 Commissioner Jones? 142 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:10,010 No questions, thanks to you. 143 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:14,070 Commissioner Lopez, are you with us? 144 00:33:14,350 --> 00:33:14,990 No, OK. 145 00:33:15,610 --> 00:33:18,190 All right, Commissioner Magala, questions for staff. 146 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:20,630 No questions, thanks. 147 00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:22,110 Commissioner Valdez. 148 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,010 Commissioner Willemuth. 149 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:27,950 Questions? 150 00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:29,210 All right. 151 00:33:29,530 --> 00:33:30,310 Thank you. 152 00:33:31,390 --> 00:33:34,930 Then we'll invite the petitioner team to come on up to the 153 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:38,130 lectern and tell us your thoughts. 154 00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:42,310 And although we made the request of those who are remote to 155 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:45,190 state your name and give the address and everything if you could 156 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:47,990 do that in turn, we would also appreciate it. 157 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:49,570 Yes, please. 158 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:58,010 It's my name is David Shaffer, it's 10, 20 Summer Street, Unit A and B in Belgium here. 159 00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:00,690 Sorry, first time a little nervous. 160 00:34:00,930 --> 00:34:03,170 We always say that's don't be nervous. 161 00:34:03,330 --> 00:34:04,770 I'm a person, you're a person. 162 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:10,930 We're here to work through this, so take a breath and just tell us who thoughts. 163 00:34:12,010 --> 00:34:17,270 I mean, having my architect here today has helped all the lot, you know, going over the, 164 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:24,750 What you guys had sent us, you know, the plans and everything and the reviews so far on it has made me at ease and everybody feels comfortable so far 165 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:29,350 None of the committee have any questions for us right now. Makes me feel more comfortable. 166 00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:33,250 We're here to better the community, you know, if anything, that's what we're trying to do. 167 00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:37,430 So as at this point, I feel very happy right now. 168 00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:43,190 So other than that, I don't know how to express anything else. 169 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:48,850 I have my manager here too, Amanda is here with us, so if there wasn't any questions, 170 00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:54,790 she's very knowledge in the business event with any time for seven years, so look forward 171 00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:56,170 to working with her too as well. 172 00:34:57,010 --> 00:34:59,990 Well we may have questions for you though, that initial round. 173 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,860 On was just for city staff. Oh, okay, great. But I mean, whatever, yeah, no problem. Sorry, sorry. 174 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:12,540 No, no, we're all good. It's like it's a little more difficult, so I think we all just got to work together. 175 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:21,360 But definitely wanted to give all three of you the opportunity to talk about the project, anything that you want to add before we move to commission questions. 176 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Oh, so my name's Ben Paschitz, 177 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,220 91.36 May field and old blonde on the architect of record on the project. 178 00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:31,820 And I just want to say back up with David Satis, 179 00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:34,580 we view this project as a benefit to the community. 180 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,800 It's not one of your big boxchains. 181 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,680 It's a smaller, tight-knit group, a creates community. 182 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040 And given the state of the world, the state of the world, 183 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,880 as everybody says, health and fitness is extremely important. 184 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,940 And with the new residential that makes use 185 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:55,080 going up next door. I think it's just a great advantage to great benefit to not only that, 186 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:57,180 but you know, just the city of Elgin in general. 187 00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:05,620 All right, I think it was a man, right? Did you want to add anything? 188 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,580 No, I think he said it perfect. Yeah, so perfect. 189 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,320 Okay, I want to give all of you your fair opportunities. 190 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,780 So, 191 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:27,600 all right. Well, if you're concluded, then we'll ask the commission. So if you want to hold on one second, just in case there's questions from the commission Commissioner Abwali, do you have questions for the petitioners? 192 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:37,140 I have 15 questions. No, I'm just kidding. You did great. I have no questions. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Jones. 193 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:41,860 Now, this is right over in my neck and it was something looking forward to it. 194 00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:45,400 I hope everything goes smoothly for you while during the process. 195 00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:46,160 No questions. 196 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:46,780 Thank you. 197 00:36:46,940 --> 00:36:47,820 Thank you. 198 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,500 Commissioner McGell. 199 00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:52,030 Well, we can't let him off bad. 200 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:52,350 Easy. 201 00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:53,950 I'll provide a question. 202 00:36:54,990 --> 00:37:01,170 So I see in the campsite gear from the franchise or corporate gear. 203 00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:03,210 There's slides here about security. 204 00:37:03,590 --> 00:37:05,190 You know, this is going to be open 24 hours. 205 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:16,250 So can you tell us how you plan on keeping your customers safe and are you implementing any or I'll be security measures here in the slides provided? 206 00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:19,870 Amanda is very familiar with this. Can I have her incident? 207 00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:33,770 So yeah, none of that information was provided in the slides, but basically I'm one in the center of the facility. There will be an emergency. Sorry. 208 00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:43,470 They'll be an emergency wall, it'll have an emergency push button, it'll have an AEDD, and then there's personal security devices that work like life alerts. 209 00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:54,050 So if a member is alone inside of the facility, they can wear it around their neck, whether they're alone, have some kind of medical condition or something along those lines. 210 00:37:54,050 --> 00:38:04,950 And in addition to our security system is 24-7, it is reported, we can go back on it and search things if need be, but it also we have a tailgating system. 211 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:11,090 Let us know, alert our phones if more than one person walks in without swiping their key five. 212 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:18,810 So then we can take a look and see if there's a problem or if, like I guess, it's just coming in. 213 00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:21,750 So I hope that answers your question. 214 00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:25,010 And you said the entrance was key card, right? 215 00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:25,510 Correct. 216 00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:28,330 It's a key file, yeah. 217 00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:32,810 And how many cameras possibly do you have in the unit? 218 00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:39,370 That's to be provision security is going to have to figure that out once they get involved. 219 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:42,910 We haven't got them involved yet, but for one of the other gyms we're working on, 220 00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:47,350 I think we had station three or outside, which actually added a fourth, 221 00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:51,370 And then we have some 360 angle cameras 222 00:38:51,370 --> 00:38:55,170 you can see from the center of the facility, 223 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:57,430 usually going to put, well, the two are going 224 00:38:57,430 --> 00:39:00,710 in the other gym we're doing, but could be one or two 225 00:39:00,710 --> 00:39:02,730 in this one, but usually from every corner, 226 00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:04,690 I want to say 12 is what we had. 227 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:05,910 We're going to say about 12. 228 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:07,750 There's anywhere from like 12 to 25 229 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:08,870 and locations. 230 00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:11,490 Now with the newer cameras, what are you talking about? 231 00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:13,190 It's more of like a bird's eye view. 232 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:14,030 Right, yeah. 233 00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:16,590 And it gives you much more view of the gym 234 00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:21,370 in a single camera. So those are newer, so newer clubs don't need as many cameras. 235 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:22,610 It's before correct. 236 00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:30,820 I know the fire department has some comments about the visual notifications. 237 00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:36,360 So that can get kind of a red light green light in terms of whether the bathrooms are occupied 238 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,580 or how is that going to work? 239 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,720 The bathrooms? 240 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:41,420 I'm not sure. 241 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,340 Oh, I don't know. 242 00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:43,880 The bathrooms change the rooms. 243 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,700 the fight apartment and it's common so they wanted to have some sort of individual 244 00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:51,820 indicators, just describe those. 245 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,080 I was going to say the bathrooms. 246 00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,480 Just like a hoard of potty per se. 247 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960 The lock will turn it on the outside. 248 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:13,480 I think the fire department was looking for was they want the visuals, the visual arms, so the fire department wanted the visual arms, the strokes in the restrooms, which will provide a during program review. 249 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,160 I think I think we've already addressed it. 250 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,300 Good. Great, nothing further for me. Thank you. Thank you. 251 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:23,800 Commissioner Valdez. 252 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:26,200 No question. 253 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:27,880 Can Mr. Walter move? 254 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:30,270 Yeah. 255 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:32,090 Just one quick question. 256 00:40:32,990 --> 00:40:38,990 How many, what do you expect is the kind of capacity during peak hours? 257 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:44,090 And do you expect most of that traffic to enter in off of the wave relief? 258 00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:45,430 Drive line. 259 00:40:45,550 --> 00:40:47,850 I know there's a couple of busy intersections there. 260 00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:53,970 And with Joel there's trying to get a better sense of kind of the flow of traffic in there. 261 00:40:53,970 --> 00:41:02,090 I would, I would imagine it would probably be the waiver because it would close to that street with the lightly in there as well. 262 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:10,990 As far as peak times, it's for clients who probably have the peak times that my previous facility was like five to seven a.m. 263 00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:14,730 And same thing in the evening pretty much like five to seven five to eight. 264 00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:18,270 But then again we're not like this huge facility. 265 00:41:18,270 --> 00:41:25,370 I would say our peak times we had anywhere from 15 to 25 people just kind of depends 266 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:31,250 on when the class times are and every gym is going to be a little different as far as 267 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:38,630 the traffic flow, but there's definitely no more than I would say 25 people in the facility 268 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:44,710 at once. Yeah for my experience working out at any time I've noticed that it picks up pretty 269 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:49,970 good around 4.35 in the morning and then by 7 o'clock pretty much everybody's out so it 270 00:41:49,970 --> 00:41:54,190 might even just be right before that morning rush or anything you know with school buses 271 00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:59,610 well give or take depends on the area but as far as leaving and then you're after school you 272 00:41:59,610 --> 00:42:04,050 know so that won't be a problem for any buses it starts around I'll see about the same time yeah 273 00:42:04,050 --> 00:42:10,290 five five yeah five seven so yeah but she's right I never had any more problem about 2025 max you know 274 00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:13,210 Yeah. And you work the busy place too. So yeah. 275 00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:17,230 Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Welcome. 276 00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:22,660 I do not have any questions for you. So we appreciate you coming on up. 277 00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:26,770 If you take your seats now. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. 278 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,520 And then at this point in time we'll open the petition up to the public hearing portion. 279 00:42:35,980 --> 00:42:40,240 So if there are those of you in the council chambers who would like to address this petition 280 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,020 And now is your opportunity. 281 00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:44,880 Seeing head shake, no. 282 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:53,680 For those of you online, is there anyone who would like to comment, now is your opportunity? 283 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,620 Trying to give enough time here for people to hardly find their mouse on mute themselves 284 00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:08,620 and turn them on the cameras, but I'm not seeing that activity. 285 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:16,780 So I believe we can safely close the public hearing portion of this petition then, and move 286 00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,180 on to staff for any final comments. 287 00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:22,750 Nothing further to add. 288 00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:25,150 Again, applications for conditional use. 289 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:27,950 Staff believes that all applicable standards are met 290 00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:30,310 and staff recommends approval, subject to conditions 291 00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:31,610 outlined in the staff report. 292 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:34,070 OK, thank you. 293 00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:35,290 So then at this point in time, 294 00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:39,030 the Chair will entertain a motion for petition 59-21. 295 00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:43,610 I move to recommend that city council 296 00:43:43,610 --> 00:43:47,070 approved petition number 59-21. 297 00:43:47,070 --> 00:43:49,790 on subject to the conditions outlined with our packet. 298 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,250 And to adopt the findings of the commission, 299 00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:54,390 those findings also provided with the NAR packet. 300 00:43:55,150 --> 00:43:56,050 Thank you, sir. Second. 301 00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:58,430 Hi, thank you, Mac. 302 00:43:59,810 --> 00:44:01,450 All right, staff, please call the roll. 303 00:44:02,810 --> 00:44:03,850 Commissioner Willer-Muth? 304 00:44:05,170 --> 00:44:05,370 Yes. 305 00:44:06,170 --> 00:44:06,990 Commissioner Valdez? 306 00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:08,710 Yeah. 307 00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:10,610 Commissioner Abwali? 308 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:11,950 Yes. 309 00:44:12,670 --> 00:44:13,430 Commissioner Jones? 310 00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:15,030 Yes. 311 00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:16,790 Commissioner Megala? 312 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:17,990 Yes. 313 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:19,630 And Chairman Cox? 314 00:44:20,110 --> 00:44:20,250 Yes. 315 00:44:20,830 --> 00:44:21,710 The motion is approved. 316 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:23,170 6 to 0. 317 00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:23,970 All right. 318 00:44:24,310 --> 00:44:25,610 Thank you for coming this evening. 319 00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:27,630 That'll be a recommendation to City Council. 320 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:36,320 All right. 321 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,380 We will do a reset here. 322 00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:41,360 Let's staff get the next petition pulled up. 323 00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:43,840 That is for 1,300 avidry. 324 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,140 Petition number 660-2160-21. 325 00:44:57,830 --> 00:44:58,210 Okay. 326 00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:59,750 again for 327 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,100 The record, we do have proof of proper notice on this one as well. Thank you. 328 00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:14,840 So, the second petition before you is the application by 1300 Abbott LLC as applicant, and Sunstar Pharmaceutical Incorporated as property owner, 329 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,880 who are requesting a conditional use to establish an adult use cannabis craft grower, 330 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,720 at the property commonly referred to as 1,300 habit drive. 331 00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:32,100 So the subject property outlined here in red is a 3 acre property 332 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,180 on the north side of Abbott Drive. 333 00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:38,080 Approximately one quarter mile east of North McLean, Boulevard. 334 00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:41,620 The property is zone GI, generally industrial district, 335 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:48,360 and as you can see, it is surrounded by industrial property zone GI 336 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:55,440 on both west, north, and east sides, all surrounding properties are improved light industrial 337 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:55,940 buildings. 338 00:45:56,740 --> 00:46:01,820 To the south across Abbott Drive is a residential community zone and that far multiple 339 00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:08,300 family residents district, which is improved with a number of two and a half story multifamily 340 00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:08,800 buildings. 341 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:12,640 Those were built around 1960s. 342 00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:16,920 Here is a bird's eye view of the subject property again. 343 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,860 It is improved with a 51,000 square foot light industrial building and includes an accessory 344 00:46:23,860 --> 00:46:26,340 parking lot with 56 parking stalls. 345 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:35,340 The access to the property is provided with one full access driveway from added drive. 346 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,340 As you can see, the property on the north butts railroad tracks, the Metro Railroad tracks 347 00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:46,760 to the north, the building is set kind of on the northern portion of the property and 348 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,600 It has a 173 foot setback from the south, which is the front property line along Avidry. 349 00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:02,860 These are, here's an image of the building and how it's set far from the street as seen 350 00:47:04,460 --> 00:47:05,740 from Avidry. 351 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,720 So the applicant is proposing to establish a don't use cannabis craft grower within the existing 352 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:14,280 building. 353 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:21,660 Just as a quick background, you may recall the state of Illinois first initially adopted 354 00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:27,400 rules to allow medical cannabis production and consumption within the state, and then 355 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,240 follow that up. 356 00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:33,600 I believe in 2018 or 2019, allowing recreational cannabis consumption in the state. 357 00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:39,820 Subsequently, the city of Elgin adopted our own rules and regulations for what we call 358 00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:42,120 I don't use cannabis or recreational cannabis, 359 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,700 both cultivation and for the spensories for sales. 360 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:49,700 Those were adopted in December of 2019. 361 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,800 Then in early 2020, the city received the number 362 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,620 of applications for conditional use. 363 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,140 I forgot to mention that all cannabis types of businesses 364 00:48:03,140 --> 00:48:07,160 are allowed as a conditional use in various zoning districts. 365 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,540 the dispensaries are allowed in commercial districts along our 366 00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:15,780 territorial roads and downtown and come more cultivation centers. 367 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:22,140 Those organizations are allowed in the industrial district of G.I. and ORIP. 368 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:23,900 But they're all allowed as a conditionally use. 369 00:48:24,620 --> 00:48:29,880 So in the early 2020 as the state started receiving applications for these 370 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,860 cultivation centers, craft growers, et cetera, the city also received several 371 00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:38,900 conditionally use applications to establish those businesses, 372 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,100 however, then obviously 373 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:48,720 COVID hit and the state of Illinois put their selection process on pause. 374 00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:57,460 That kind of dragged out until the end of 2020 and in 2021, and to this date, we've heard 375 00:48:57,460 --> 00:49:03,700 only from one applicant, which is the applicant tonight, that has received a license from 376 00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:09,660 state of Illinois. They initially applied to establish the craft rover with at 925 377 00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:13,920 Tolgate Road. However, because of the state of Illinois selection process took much 378 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,160 longer than anticipated that property is no longer available. However, the applicant received 379 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,820 the license and can now use the license to establish the craft rover anywhere else. So they 380 00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:29,520 have applied to establish the business at 1,300 avid drive. 381 00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:39,510 So the craft grower is a smaller production facility 382 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:42,330 or a cultivation facility for growing cannabis. 383 00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:46,030 The applicant is proposing to establish a craft grower 384 00:49:46,030 --> 00:49:47,510 within the existing building. 385 00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:50,230 All operations would be within the existing building, 386 00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:51,610 nothing on the exterior. 387 00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:55,470 They're not proposing any significant changes to the site. 388 00:49:55,470 --> 00:49:59,990 In fact, they're only proposing to install a security fence, a six foot height. 389 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:11,540 I fence around the perimeter of the building. The fence will end where the front of the building is. We'll kind of loop around from the east and west sides on this slide. 390 00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:17,720 The north is to the left, so the side property lines are on the top and on the bottom. 391 00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:28,080 They will also install new light poles and security cameras surrounding the building and a new monument sign along the street. 392 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,280 Both are all three things defense, the lighting and the new sign will all comply with the zoning ordinance requirements. 393 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,800 These are the details of the proposed fence. 394 00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:46,760 It's going to be a security fence, six feet high, sort of open design with the pickets bending outward. 395 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:54,080 The light poles are on the top right, and then the proposed sign, the lower left. 396 00:50:57,310 --> 00:50:59,710 This is the proposed floor plan of the building. 397 00:51:00,090 --> 00:51:04,010 The applicant is going to complete substantial improvements on the interior to accommodate 398 00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:05,030 the new use. 399 00:51:06,450 --> 00:51:11,770 They have provided a motor control plan and an administrative that they will not emit any 400 00:51:11,770 --> 00:51:12,990 notches of odors. 401 00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:22,050 The applicant can initially have up to 5,000 square feet of cannabis plants growing canopy. 402 00:51:22,990 --> 00:51:30,610 The state allows that canopy to be increased and three increments per 3,000 square feet each. 403 00:51:31,010 --> 00:51:34,990 Up to the next one permitted 14,000 square feet of the canopy area. 404 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:39,630 The applicant doesn't anticipate requesting these expanses in the future. 405 00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:42,570 all of that, however, will be within the existing building 406 00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:45,870 and they've indicated on the floor plan their phase expansion. 407 00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:51,760 The proposed hours of operation would be 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday 408 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,520 the applicant anticipates having 10 employees. 409 00:51:56,140 --> 00:52:02,500 The cannabis product pickup would occur once a week and it would be done by a state 410 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:08,180 approved transportation company. No onsite consumption is allowed or proposed 411 00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:11,620 and no retail sales can take place on site. 412 00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:17,560 The city's regulations do not allow a dispensary 413 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,400 to co-locate within the same building 414 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,040 or the same property with other cannabis type businesses. 415 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,200 So this facility can never become a dispensary 416 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,200 for retail sales. 417 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:34,360 The city also is part of our rules for cannabis businesses 418 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,660 has adopted a restriction that these types of facilities 419 00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:43,340 have to be at least 250 feet from what's called a sensitive land use. The sensitive land 420 00:52:43,340 --> 00:52:50,180 uses our parks, schools, daycare, those types of facilities. And in this case the facility 421 00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:56,660 or the property is approximately or over 900 feet from the closest sensitive land use that 422 00:52:56,660 --> 00:53:01,020 being the wing park wing park that is to the east down at the dry. 423 00:53:03,260 --> 00:53:08,500 The properties required or the 424 00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:13,640 six on sites so the business will continue to comply with the Zoning Ordnance. 425 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,840 The applicant has submitted safety and security plan as required by the city's cannabis 426 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,540 ordnance, which was reviewed by our police department. 427 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,060 They have recommended approval with a couple minor suggestions. 428 00:53:27,740 --> 00:53:32,840 First one being that the guards that they will be on site, which I've got to mention, and 429 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,860 I'm sure the applicant will talk about that. 430 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:41,340 They will have two security guards during the hours of operation and then one security guard when the facility is closed. 431 00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:52,760 The police department is recommending that those guards wear uniforms so that they can be identified in case of emergencies and if the police were to enter the facility. 432 00:53:54,120 --> 00:54:00,480 Police department also recommend that integrating surveillance video with the police department's video platform. 433 00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:06,600 The proposal is required to meet the standards for conditional use. 434 00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:09,060 Staff has provided our overview in the packet. 435 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,220 We do find that all Apple Dispandors are satisfied, 436 00:54:13,220 --> 00:54:15,680 and therefore staff recommends approval subject 437 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,400 to the conditions outlined in the packet. 438 00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:24,030 And all of those I'll just mention that the applicant will have 439 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:27,770 to provide a state approval prior to getting a certificate 440 00:54:27,770 --> 00:54:30,390 of occupancy from the city. 441 00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:36,990 with that. Happy to take any questions. Thank you, Demir. Starting with a commission again 442 00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:39,990 questions for staff would start off with Commissioner Abwali. 443 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080 I don't have questions more. 444 00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:52,000 I run through all this information carefully. It seems like this whole operation is super 445 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:59,960 super discrete. There's no any kind of signs or any kind of anything that says what's 446 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,880 There, and there's no distribution whatsoever. Am I to understand all of that correctly? 447 00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:13,560 It is a very good assumption, and a summary sort of of their operations per code, all operations 448 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:20,580 are required to be on the inside. And the applicant can speak further about their activities and business operations. 449 00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:31,330 Do you have any additional questions? 450 00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:34,070 No additional questions. 451 00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:36,110 Okay. Commissioner Jones, you're up. 452 00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:38,370 No questions. Thank you. 453 00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:41,370 Commissioner Magala, questions for staff. 454 00:55:42,350 --> 00:55:44,630 No questions, thank you. 455 00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:47,210 Commissioner Valdez, your turn. 456 00:55:48,830 --> 00:55:49,410 Excuse me. 457 00:55:49,870 --> 00:55:56,090 Why two guards during business hours and only one guard during that business hours? 458 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:59,330 Seems like a more question for our applicant. 459 00:55:59,510 --> 00:56:01,410 I'll let them make a note of that. 460 00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,970 Hopefully they can answer that when the applicant comes up. 461 00:56:05,210 --> 00:56:08,630 Sounds like we have that question as well as one from Commissioner Boali. 462 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:11,690 All right, Commissioner Valdez, do you have any additional questions? 463 00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:13,590 No. 464 00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:16,130 I could see the head shake. 465 00:56:16,610 --> 00:56:17,610 Commissioner Wilder moved. 466 00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:19,410 No, no. 467 00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:21,030 No questions. 468 00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:23,670 All right, I don't have any questions for staff. 469 00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:29,590 So we will now turn this over to the petitioner team for this item. 470 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,760 So, whomever would like to lead that off, please, 471 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,640 Again, State your name, give us your address and tell us your thoughts. 472 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:48,240 My name is Anthony Carpino, I'm a 1,300 Abbott Drive in Elgin. 473 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:58,080 I'm the owner of 1,300 Abbott LLC as well as Florida Arbor LLC, which is the license holder. 474 00:56:58,660 --> 00:57:02,620 1,300 Abbott is the real estate owner of the property. 475 00:57:03,340 --> 00:57:09,900 Wilvee, which once the purchase has been concluded, with me today I have my team, which 476 00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:16,660 is Christopher Balln was my architect, Sean Panja, was my MEP engineer, Eric Pollin, who 477 00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:22,900 is our consultant, Riley Zelller, who was one of the executives of Floor Arbor, Andrew 478 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:30,340 Volk, also an executive of Floor Arbor and owner of 1,300, Abadalse, Pat White, was a security 479 00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:33,880 consultant and Paul Canarty who is our attorney. 480 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:43,620 We'll let them answer any questions that you may have regarding anything that you may 481 00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:44,820 want to ask. 482 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,420 In order to answer the question that you initially post about whether or not our business 483 00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:55,800 is going to be discrete, you will not know that we are even there, we're going to operate 484 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:11,460 And essentially, privately, we're there just to grow cannabis and produce products that are going to be sold to dispensaries for distribution to customers. 485 00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:16,060 We do not sell to the public directly. 486 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:41,720 You know, and the other question regarding security, I'll let Pat White go into more detail on that, but the thought process of having the number of guards being too during the day when there's employees present is the fact that, you know, they're there to protect the individuals that are working within the facility at night, they will not be any individuals in the facility. 487 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:57,780 And so that's why we had one guard on site keeping the lookout and patrolling the internal part of the facility and exterior part of the facility and reviewing the cameras at night when there's nobody on duty there. 488 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:09,020 We'll open the floor to staff any questions or just like to also tell the staff you did a great job putting together the summary. 489 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,480 And like I said, any questions where we're willing to open and what really the answer. 490 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:24,980 And we can certainly move into questions from the commission to the petitioner team, but it's also wanted to ensure that anyone on the petitioner team, 491 00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:29,320 who wanted to tell us your thoughts now and that was a great time for that. 492 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:42,820 The operators of various dispensary processors and cultivation facilities in nine states. 493 00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:49,880 I let Andrew Go was my partner going in a little bit more depth there, but we're just looking 494 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:57,260 to be a good steward, you know, building an environment-friendly building and get back to the community. 495 00:59:58,260 --> 00:59:59,720 I'm talking a part of our plan. 496 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:23,060 This is to have a community garden within the facility where we go for roll fruits and vegetables, and then we donate those fruits and vegetables to show local community shelters and or also give them a way to the public in any way that the village feels is the right method to do that. 497 01:00:23,060 --> 01:00:34,300 as well as we also are looking to hire individuals from the local community, especially those that live in social and impact areas. 498 01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:42,510 And if you want to give your thoughts, please go ahead. 499 01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:55,250 Yes, in addition, I guess I really kind of highlight the tax revenue that the city gets with our presence on operating. 500 01:00:56,210 --> 01:01:03,710 as an approved operator as well, and to kind of further, and these additional comment 501 01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:10,890 earlier, it's absolutely, you know, our prior, our number one priority to make sure that 502 01:01:10,890 --> 01:01:18,490 we are to screen. I own several Canada's businesses throughout the country and the number 503 01:01:18,490 --> 01:01:24,470 one, the number one feedback that we always get from various mayors, and our city council 504 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:30,170 or the trustees is, there's no complaints, there's no issues, it's very, very quiet and 505 01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:35,070 when random people come by for inspection. The comment that we always loved to hear is 506 01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:43,830 no one knew that this existed and nobody knew that what our business is. So, I can, you know, 507 01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:51,830 I'm behalf of all of us, committed to that level of privacy and the lack of promotion, 508 01:01:51,830 --> 01:01:55,110 and we're not trying to draw any more attention to ourselves. 509 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,360 All right. 510 01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:05,100 I would like to have one further comment on the security aspects 511 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:06,500 regarding this business. 512 01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:12,260 And the operators is that I've worked with these operators in the past 513 01:02:12,260 --> 01:02:17,460 at different locations both in the cannabis growing space 514 01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:19,580 and the cannabis retail space. 515 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,580 And no instances of their business in the last five years 516 01:02:24,580 --> 01:02:35,320 in the state of Illinois, nor in any of the other states have they ever received any complaints whatsoever regarding security procedures or incidents after properties. 517 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:51,960 In fact, at the one retail location that I was involved with the planning of and five years in operation, it was used as a standard for the state of Illinois for their security processes procedures. 518 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:59,620 and new operators were brought to that location as an example of how an operation should be 519 01:02:59,620 --> 01:02:59,860 run. 520 01:03:00,340 --> 01:03:08,220 There's nothing but the highest standards of security and compliance with any rules, regulations, 521 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:16,840 both the villages and cities that the operations have been in contact with or in the states 522 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:23,400 that the operations have had businesses in. 523 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,940 And as to the question about the security guards, 524 01:03:26,540 --> 01:03:28,680 the reason for two guards during the day 525 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,140 is that that's when most of the activity will occur 526 01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:35,660 for either career movements in and out of the building 527 01:03:35,660 --> 01:03:40,280 as well as employees in the building 528 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,300 and to secure outside and inside parameters 529 01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:50,880 where, as during the evening hours, the electronic systems within the building, which is laid out in the security plan, 530 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:59,380 are utilized for one operating, one security person to be able to monitor the entire situation. 531 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,920 And also have availability of panic situations. 532 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,100 Should there be some type of outside threat that would occur in the property? 533 01:04:08,580 --> 01:04:09,600 Thank you. 534 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:14,360 All right, we appreciate the testimony of that last settlement, but it's also important 535 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,380 to remember as we request that the start of you could please state your name and give it 536 01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:24,260 your address for that. So for the court reporter that was Patrick White for that last part 537 01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:31,220 of the Petitioner's testimony. All right, did you have anything else? 538 01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:40,470 No, I could supply it with my address. My address for my company is 2106 Seminole Drive Huntsville, 539 01:04:41,830 --> 01:04:44,330 Okay, to the core reporter. I'm sorry. There was something else. 540 01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:51,610 Andrew's last name is is ho. H-O. Yes, 541 01:04:54,740 --> 01:04:58,440 understood. All right, sorry. We're a little sidebar conversation here with a 542 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,000 core reporter trying to get everything in the- 543 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,420 Transcript for counsel and for future records. All right. Moving on now, anyone else on the petitioner team 544 01:05:07,890 --> 01:05:14,220 that wanted to add to the testimony before we move on to the commission questions? 545 01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:25,450 All right. Anthony, you're you're good with the testimony given thus far? 546 01:05:26,370 --> 01:05:34,910 Yes, sir. All right. So then we will move on to the commission and give questions, the 547 01:05:34,910 --> 01:05:38,810 opportunity for questions to be asked again, starting with Commissioner Abwale. 548 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:46,390 You answered my question. Thank you. No other questions. All right. Commissioner Jones. 549 01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:56,710 No, sounds like the pan I was going to ask you and I think Anthony spoke a little bit to the 550 01:05:56,710 --> 01:06:07,130 And you spoke a little bit about the fire me, so thank you for addressing those excited, I'm excited to have you in town, hopefully. 551 01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:09,770 Great, thank you. 552 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:13,050 Right, Commissioner McGala, questions for the e-partitioner team. 553 01:06:14,410 --> 01:06:19,350 One, we're related to security in terms of what I saw on the plan. 554 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:24,970 Um, those will be a secured gates, whether it be a guard station at the gate, or I was 555 01:06:24,970 --> 01:06:28,850 the traffic, especially in the courier is regulated, a flow of that. 556 01:06:29,090 --> 01:06:33,530 And again, when you answer, uh, whoever that's going to be, please state your name, um, before 557 01:06:33,530 --> 01:06:34,230 you start. 558 01:06:34,370 --> 01:06:36,990 You don't have to go through the address again, but please just state your name. 559 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,340 Patrick White, there will not be a guard at the gate. 560 01:06:45,340 --> 01:06:52,500 Um, it's a electronically controlled from the command post and with a video camera and, uh, 561 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,220 communication systems to the gate? 562 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,340 Okay, and then in terms of deliveries, what's 563 01:07:00,340 --> 01:07:05,780 anticipated delivery schedule in terms of numbers per week and hours during the 564 01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:07,560 day, you can kind of provide that. 565 01:07:16,570 --> 01:07:19,930 This is Anthony Carpino. The deliveries are 566 01:07:19,930 --> 01:07:26,710 going to be random, no more than one or two deliveries, typically per week, and 567 01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:30,610 they're going to be a random hours, and that's for a purpose of security. 568 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:32,910 And they're 569 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:35,230 during the business hours only. 570 01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:38,750 That was my follow-up question was, was the business hours after hours. 571 01:07:38,810 --> 01:07:39,530 Thank you. 572 01:07:39,770 --> 01:07:40,270 Nothing further. 573 01:07:41,710 --> 01:07:42,270 Thank you. 574 01:07:42,790 --> 01:07:45,610 Any questions from Commissioner Valdez for the team? 575 01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:50,410 Commissioner Weldermooth. 576 01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:51,910 Questions? 577 01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:53,510 All right. 578 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:56,110 I do not have any questions for the petitioner team. 579 01:07:57,470 --> 01:08:03,490 So at this point in time, then we will open this petition up to public comment. 580 01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:12,930 So, see staff moving to check a sign-in sheet, probably just for due process, but we're 581 01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:20,370 just looking at this point in time for anyone who's on Zoom to take the opportunity to 582 01:08:20,370 --> 01:08:20,650 speak. 583 01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:27,430 So, if we can do this in order to be fashion, I'm not sure who's, who maybe, like, looking 584 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:29,710 to speak at this point in time, but now is your opportunity. 585 01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:41,180 We've got a Kate, a Mark, Jeff, Harold, and I know some of these are on the Commissioner 586 01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:50,580 team or maybe for future of for another petition, David, Andrew, Atole, Palina, Jolene, 587 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,580 Sean, and then a calling number. 588 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,180 I'd like to do the joking going once, going twice, 589 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,460 all right, I will say sold, we'll close 590 01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:18,380 the public hearing portion of this petition then and look back to staff for any final 591 01:09:18,380 --> 01:09:19,600 comments you'd like to offer. 592 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,620 Nothing further to add staff has provided our overview of the application, but the findings 593 01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:27,160 effect. 594 01:09:27,420 --> 01:09:31,740 We do believe that all applicable standards are satisfied, so staff recommends approval 595 01:09:31,740 --> 01:09:33,620 subject to the conditions in the staff report. 596 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:35,760 Okay. 597 01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:41,700 Then at this point in time, the chair will entertain a motion for petition 60-21. 598 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:43,520 I'm sorry 60-21. 599 01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:51,760 We'll to recommend that city council approve petition number 60-21 subject to the conditions 600 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:57,000 outlined within our packet and to adopt as the findings of the commission those findings 601 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,300 also provided within our packet. 602 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,680 This is Nancy of Wally. Thank you, is there a second? 603 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,040 A second. This is Karen. 604 01:10:09,740 --> 01:10:12,420 Thank you. Staff, please call the roll. 605 01:10:13,180 --> 01:10:13,900 Commissioner of Wally? 606 01:10:15,260 --> 01:10:15,420 Yes. 607 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,660 Commissioner Jones? 608 01:10:17,660 --> 01:10:18,020 Yes. 609 01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:19,620 Commissioner Megala? 610 01:10:20,660 --> 01:10:20,780 Yes. 611 01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:22,440 Commissioner Valdez? 612 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,300 Yeah. 613 01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:26,520 Commissioner Wildermooth? 614 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:27,620 Yes. 615 01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:29,300 And Chairman Cox? 616 01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:30,100 Yes. 617 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,160 That motion has approved, 60. 618 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,860 All right. 619 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,140 Thank you. 620 01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:38,080 And to the petitioner team again, 621 01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:40,100 that'll be our recommendation to City Council. 622 01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:47,200 And work with staff as to what the next dates are for that part of this petition to move forward. 623 01:10:49,820 --> 01:10:49,960 All right. 624 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,440 We're going to reset here again. 625 01:10:51,740 --> 01:10:54,780 Move on to the first condition that used in text amendment. 626 01:10:55,220 --> 01:10:57,700 This is for 107 East Highland Avenue. 627 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,320 There's a couple of petitioner and petition numbers associated with this. 628 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:08,200 But to my fellow commissioners, you may have noticed my architecture permit provided the petitioner and city council. 629 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,380 I'm sorry city staff with a code analysis letter for the subject space. 630 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,500 So I will need to recuse myself from this petition. 631 01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:19,920 So at this point in time, I'd like the commission to appoint a chairperson. 632 01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:28,640 To appoint Commissioner Magala, this chairperson for this petition. 633 01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:29,860 Thank you, sir. 634 01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:30,760 Is there a second? 635 01:11:33,230 --> 01:11:36,290 Second mission of Eldez, staff, please call the roll. 636 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,140 The fourth time for this upcoming petition, 637 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,040 52 and 21 and 60, 21 regarding 107 East Highland. 638 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,480 Commissioner Jones? 639 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,260 Yes. 640 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:52,940 Commissioner of Eldez? 641 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:54,740 Yes. 642 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,500 Commissioner of Wally? 643 01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,080 Yes. 644 01:11:58,860 --> 01:11:59,580 Commissioner of Magala? 645 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,300 Austin. 646 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,080 Commissioner of Wildermouth? 647 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:04,400 Yes. 648 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,900 And Chairman Cox? 649 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:07,600 Yes. 650 01:12:08,780 --> 01:12:12,420 The motion is approved five to zero, but one abstention. 651 01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:18,070 Thank you, Chairman Cox. 652 01:12:18,910 --> 01:12:20,410 And thank you, fellow commissioners. 653 01:12:21,130 --> 01:12:21,390 All right. 654 01:12:22,090 --> 01:12:25,170 So first up, we have the city presenting the petition. 655 01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:26,890 Do we have 656 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,420 proper notice as well? 657 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,760 We do have a proper notice for the record. 658 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,720 So this next petition is the application by Amy Porter Art Incorporated. 659 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:50,500 As applicant and coming holdings LLC is property owner who are requesting to amend title 19 zoning of the 660 01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:56,900 Elgian Municipal Code to modify the zoning ordinance regulations for tattooed parlors within the art arterial road corridor or 661 01:12:56,900 --> 01:13:08,200 Relay District and a conditional use to establish a tattooed parlour on art gallery and a commercial event space for activities pertaining to the assembly of people at the property 662 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,460 commonly referred to as 107 East Highland Avenue. 663 01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:18,540 So here is the subject property. 664 01:13:19,180 --> 01:13:20,920 Again, we'll start at the map. 665 01:13:21,340 --> 01:13:25,840 This property outlined in red is located downtown Elgin 666 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,340 at the southeast quarter corner of East Highland Avenue 667 01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:30,760 and north-growth Avenue. 668 01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,740 The subject tenants base is the 2200 square foot space 669 01:13:35,740 --> 01:13:38,860 on the second floor of the existing two-story building. 670 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,560 As you can see, the properties, the properties on CC1 671 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,540 center city district, as well as it falls under ARC, 672 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,800 arterial road corridor or related district, 673 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,500 being that East Highland Avenue is arterial roadway. 674 01:13:56,440 --> 01:14:00,180 As you can see, the properties to the west, south, and east 675 01:14:00,180 --> 01:14:03,880 are also zone CC1 in the same shade of sort of reddish color. 676 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:14,540 To the west is the former two-story P&C bank building that recently was approved for the adaptive reuse of that building as a dormitory for Jesse University. 677 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,380 To the south is a parking lot also owned by the same property owner as the subject property. 678 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,020 And then to the east is a two-story building that is currently vacant. 679 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:31,000 To the north is the surface parking lot owned by the city zone CF Community Facility District. 680 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,700 Here are a couple photos of the existing building. 681 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,260 The building is considered contributing to the downtown historic district. 682 01:14:40,340 --> 01:14:42,460 It was constructed in 1885. 683 01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:47,320 It is built to the lotlines and is known as the Be Hagelow building. 684 01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:53,140 Who at the time was the boiler and the distributor for the PAPs Brewing Company. 685 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,300 So the ground floor of the building was used as a tavern for many years. 686 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,880 Most recently, as a few days ago, I believe the ground floor was occupied by the red poppy beast for a restaurant. The second floor is vacant. 687 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:23,180 So the opening is proposing, first to amend the regulations within the arc corridor, the arc arterial overlay districts, and then requesting a conditionally use for the tattoo parlor. 688 01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:45,140 First, regarding the text amendments, so all properties adjacent to arterial roadways are subject to the restrictions within the arc, and there are a number of land uses that are not allowed on properties that are affronting on these roadways. 689 01:15:45,140 --> 01:15:48,960 So one of those land uses that is not allowed is a tattoo parlor. 690 01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:54,620 So you may recall that we have three other tattoo parlor's downtown because tattoo 691 01:15:54,620 --> 01:16:00,100 parlor's are allowed as a conditionally used in the CC1 district as well as the CC2 district. 692 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:06,600 So the applicant is proposing to amend those regulations within the arch to allow tattoo 693 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:13,140 parlor's to establish above the ground floor essentially east of the river. 694 01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:16,400 So the East Highland Avenue corridor east of the river. 695 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,800 And then in combination with that, 696 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,100 they're requesting, initially, you 697 01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,340 should approval to establish the tattoo 698 01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:26,620 parlor with the art gallery and event space. 699 01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:35,910 This is the proposed second floor plan with the proposed improvements. 700 01:16:38,110 --> 01:16:41,710 The tattoo parlor would have four separate artists studios. 701 01:16:41,710 --> 01:16:47,750 It would be a woman-owned and woman-operated tattoo parlor and business. 702 01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:56,650 It would provide services only by appointment, Monday through Saturday from 10 AM, approximately 703 01:16:56,650 --> 01:17:00,670 to APM, they would not do walk-in service. 704 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,340 They would also not provide any body piercing services. 705 01:17:07,780 --> 01:17:11,760 The proposed tattoo parlor would comply with all requirements of the Illuminant Department 706 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,700 of Public Health. 707 01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:32,700 In addition to the tattoo parlor, the applicant is proposing to also have a art gallery space that would organize different art exhibitions throughout the year, initially they would start with four such exhibitions at the beginning of each season with the hopes to increase those the ones per month in the subsequent years. 708 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:41,580 In addition to those art exhibitions, the applicant is also hoping to organize our focused 709 01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:48,040 events, only a select few type of events, such as paint and draw nights and fundraisers, 710 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:55,760 different types of creative workshops, essentially the ideas to invite artists into the space 711 01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:03,120 to create ARC together. Due to the space limitations, the events can only have up to 20 participants 712 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,920 that will be the maximum of occupancy. And the applicant has indicated they have no plans 713 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:16,300 to serve any food or drinks, including alcohol, at these types of events. The applicant 714 01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:20,180 is not proposing any interior change, or I'm sorry, exterior change that are building and 715 01:18:20,180 --> 01:18:26,640 minor interior build-out to accommodate the new use. The proposal for 716 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,520 conditionally use is required to meet the standards for conditionally use. We've 717 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,700 provided our overview of the standards in the packet and staff believes that all 718 01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:39,560 applicable standards are satisfied, therefore staff recommends approval, subject to 719 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:45,440 the conditions outlined in your packet. Did that open to any questions? 720 01:18:47,140 --> 01:18:47,980 Thanks, Tamir. 721 01:18:48,620 --> 01:18:50,600 We'll take it from the top off a bit of quarter. 722 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:51,760 We'll continue that trend. 723 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:54,760 So first up, Commissioner Boile any questions for the city? 724 01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:57,440 No questions from me. Thank you. 725 01:18:58,260 --> 01:18:58,860 Commissioner Jones. 726 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,780 Did you say the building to the east of this is vacant? 727 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,360 And the west is the Judson remodeled building that they're doing, right? 728 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,060 That's correct. 729 01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:16,340 Across the alley to the east, the two-story commercial building that I believe is vacant. 730 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,560 Okay. 731 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:20,160 Okay. 732 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,020 Thank you. 733 01:19:21,020 --> 01:19:22,020 You're welcome. 734 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:23,600 Anything else? 735 01:19:25,210 --> 01:19:26,470 No, nothing else. 736 01:19:26,670 --> 01:19:27,170 Thank you. 737 01:19:28,410 --> 01:19:28,670 All right. 738 01:19:28,810 --> 01:19:29,350 Commissioner Lopez 739 01:19:34,370 --> 01:19:36,310 is not present. 740 01:19:36,890 --> 01:19:39,110 He didn't indicate that he's not going to. 741 01:19:39,210 --> 01:19:39,450 Okay. 742 01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:41,310 Commissioner palace. 743 01:19:43,070 --> 01:19:43,570 No question. 744 01:19:45,050 --> 01:19:45,930 Thank you. 745 01:19:46,290 --> 01:19:46,790 Commissioner Wilbur. 746 01:19:47,630 --> 01:19:48,490 I have questions. 747 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,080 I do have a question. 748 01:19:52,820 --> 01:19:56,160 And in terms of the negative spread more from the positioner, 749 01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,000 between all where the space is going to be and what it's going to be. 750 01:20:05,980 --> 01:20:25,050 Yes, if you can see the slide show, the floor plan of the space shows four artists studios and in the middle would be the sitting area. That sitting area would be sort of the multipurpose space that would be used for art exhibits and then various types of events. 751 01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:26,730 I've got it. 752 01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:30,330 I've got nothing further from the city. 753 01:20:30,810 --> 01:20:32,550 The wall on the right up the petitioner. 754 01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:36,170 And then they can maybe follow up and just confirm that question. 755 01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:39,550 And then offering you the thoughts on the petition. 756 01:20:50,460 --> 01:20:52,540 I can't see council chambers to the petitioner president. 757 01:20:53,820 --> 01:20:54,380 Oh yes. 758 01:20:54,620 --> 01:20:54,780 I'm here. 759 01:20:54,860 --> 01:20:55,100 Sorry. 760 01:20:56,460 --> 01:20:57,020 I mean. 761 01:20:57,620 --> 01:20:57,840 Yes. 762 01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,180 Thank you. 763 01:20:59,460 --> 01:21:03,280 Thank you. 764 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:09,120 I am Amy Porter, a 2,500 Candle Cancer Field Park Bait East, West Sunday. 765 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,180 I am the founder of Elkney Tattoo and Gallery. 766 01:21:13,940 --> 01:21:15,420 We opened in 2020. 767 01:21:16,220 --> 01:21:19,360 We are currently located in Arlington Heights. 768 01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:22,800 At this point, we do have two artists, 769 01:21:23,180 --> 01:21:27,100 and we're hoping to expand to work professional artists at our establishment. 770 01:21:27,860 --> 01:21:33,260 And we're wanting to relocate to Elgin on just because of the artistic hub. 771 01:21:33,260 --> 01:21:41,220 that it is. I have experience with Elgen. I was a previous art space president for four years. 772 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,620 And in that time, I was able to participate in various art events, 773 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:52,920 had high-street studios, art space, I did life painting events, 774 01:21:52,940 --> 01:21:59,480 and I was also, I also vended at Nightmare on the Chicago Street. 775 01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:03,040 So it was really an amazing opportunity for me as an artist 776 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,260 to really get involved and enjoy the community events 777 01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:07,900 that are out there for us. 778 01:22:08,260 --> 01:22:10,180 So I feel like my establishment 779 01:22:10,180 --> 01:22:13,760 can add to just the elements of Elgin 780 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,180 and that artistic hub that it's really become. 781 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,340 Do you have any other members of your team 782 01:22:21,340 --> 01:22:25,720 or is it just to talk about the petition? 783 01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:30,440 So I'm here, and then the building owner is also here. 784 01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:31,940 So Andrew coming. 785 01:22:35,710 --> 01:22:39,870 Any other comments before we open it up to questions from the question? 786 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,380 Did you ask a question? 787 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,760 No, no, no, no. 788 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:47,580 I was asking the supporters. 789 01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:48,440 She had any questions. 790 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,820 I'll open it up to you. 791 01:22:56,490 --> 01:22:58,350 Do I have to start other questions then? 792 01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:59,090 Can you share your body? 793 01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:02,170 No questions, thank you. 794 01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:03,610 Mr. Mayor Jones. 795 01:23:08,150 --> 01:23:08,850 Can you share about that? 796 01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:10,730 No questions. 797 01:23:12,890 --> 01:23:13,570 Can you share all of them? 798 01:23:14,510 --> 01:23:15,130 No questions. 799 01:23:18,490 --> 01:23:20,030 That's the same question that I asked the city. 800 01:23:20,030 --> 01:23:25,150 to confirm the location of like the exhibit space and how you'll convert the space that's in the 801 01:23:25,150 --> 01:23:31,590 site plan, which is, you're kind of really dictated more for, you know, the tattoo used into the 802 01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:39,630 yard and the exhibit space. So the exhibit space would be in that seating area. So for example, 803 01:23:39,730 --> 01:23:44,650 if we're going to have an artwork shop or a drawing and painting night, we would just bring out 804 01:23:44,650 --> 01:23:47,450 holding tables that there's up with holding chairs. 805 01:23:47,890 --> 01:23:50,370 So we can work at tables together, so. 806 01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:53,910 Great. 807 01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:55,190 I'd nothing further. 808 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:59,190 So at this time, we can open it up to the public. 809 01:23:59,690 --> 01:24:02,010 Does anybody assigned in the mirror? 810 01:24:02,410 --> 01:24:03,510 Nobody's back to. 811 01:24:03,670 --> 01:24:05,630 Yeah, nobody's come on this position. 812 01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:07,450 Sorry, nobody signed in. 813 01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:10,610 And nobody's here in the Calth Chambers with us. 814 01:24:12,430 --> 01:24:12,590 OK. 815 01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:14,230 Great, good. 816 01:24:14,590 --> 01:24:16,790 The mirror, if you can provide the city summary then. 817 01:24:19,610 --> 01:24:27,410 staff has nothing else to add on this petition. We provided our overview in the packet. It's a dual type of 818 01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:31,990 application. First part is for the text amendment. The second part is for conditional use. 819 01:24:32,930 --> 01:24:37,230 We found that the applicable fairness are satisfied and therefore staff recommends approval 820 01:24:37,230 --> 01:24:43,330 subject to the conditions in the packet. And we can't, we can take the one motion for both 821 01:24:43,330 --> 01:24:45,570 that would be great. 822 01:24:46,510 --> 01:24:46,870 Okay, yes. 823 01:24:46,930 --> 01:24:47,530 So just as a reminder, 824 01:24:48,430 --> 01:24:52,790 the petition is to amend the zoning, 825 01:24:53,010 --> 01:24:54,890 as well as the conditional use credit. 826 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:10,220 Is that correct? That's correct. Any discussion from a commission? Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion as to approval of the petition, 827 01:25:15,410 --> 01:25:16,770 decisions in this case. 828 01:25:21,260 --> 01:25:22,520 Anybody other commission want to make a motion? 829 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,560 I can 830 01:25:26,850 --> 01:25:30,470 make a motion, this is Jordan. 831 01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:33,730 I know you're recommending that City Council approve, 832 01:25:33,730 --> 01:25:38,010 petitions, 52, 21 and 62, 21, 833 01:25:38,410 --> 01:25:40,710 that subject of the conditions outlined within our packet 834 01:25:40,710 --> 01:25:42,890 and to adapt as the findings of the commission 835 01:25:42,890 --> 01:25:45,210 of the findings also provided with our packet. 836 01:25:46,090 --> 01:25:47,730 Great, thank you, is there a second? 837 01:25:48,530 --> 01:25:49,990 Are you seconded? 838 01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:54,310 Great, seconded by the commission of rural. 839 01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:58,490 All right, any discussion on the motion? 840 01:26:05,850 --> 01:26:08,190 The Mayor, please call for the vote. 841 01:26:10,140 --> 01:26:10,920 Commissioner Willermuth? 842 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,260 Commissioner Valdez? 843 01:26:16,850 --> 01:26:17,830 Commissioner Abwali? 844 01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:19,030 Yes. 845 01:26:20,050 --> 01:26:20,770 Commissioner Jones? 846 01:26:21,850 --> 01:26:22,070 Yes. 847 01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:24,950 And Chairman Pro Tem Negala? 848 01:26:26,190 --> 01:26:26,430 Yes. 849 01:26:27,010 --> 01:26:29,270 The motion is approved five to zero. 850 01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:32,910 Gradulations of your recommendation to City Council. 851 01:26:34,130 --> 01:26:34,910 Thank you so much. 852 01:26:36,730 --> 01:26:37,710 Welcome. 853 01:26:49,770 --> 01:26:52,970 So, Mr. Chair and Cox, we'll be joining us today for Zoom. 854 01:26:54,130 --> 01:26:55,710 Absolutely. Looking forward to it. 855 01:26:56,190 --> 01:26:58,830 But thank you for, for walking us through that one. 856 01:26:59,830 --> 01:27:00,510 It's double done. 857 01:27:01,450 --> 01:27:02,070 Chair, thank you. 858 01:27:03,530 --> 01:27:07,430 All right. We can now move on to the next petition. 859 01:27:07,710 --> 01:27:09,850 We're already at the number four for the evening. 860 01:27:10,090 --> 01:27:13,730 At 640 Ville Street, petition 56-21. 861 01:27:14,830 --> 01:27:16,730 The Mayor, take us away when you're ready. 862 01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:28,640 For the record, we do have proof of proper notice on this one as well. 863 01:27:28,940 --> 01:27:29,520 Thank you, sir. 864 01:27:30,980 --> 01:27:36,480 This petition is the application by Andy Patel and Kona Incorporated. 865 01:27:38,740 --> 01:27:44,220 Beeping Patel as property owner, who are requesting approval of a plan development as a conditional use with 866 01:27:44,220 --> 01:27:49,160 departures from the Elgin Municipal Code requirements for a fence and any other departures 867 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:54,320 as Navy S-Siri or desirable for adaptive reuse of the existing motor vehicle service station 868 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:59,980 as a package, liquor sales establishment, at the property commonly referred to as 640 869 01:27:59,980 --> 01:28:00,860 Villa Street. 870 01:28:04,340 --> 01:28:12,920 So, the subject properties located on the east side of Elgin, outlined here in red, it is approximately 871 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:17,480 1600 square feet in area located in the north west corner ofville 872 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:23,340 Street and Illinois Avenue. It is improved with a gas station with this small 873 01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:27,440 convenience store. As you can see, all properties of the northeast west 874 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,960 and south are shaded in the same colors. They're all zone the same. This 875 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,940 is the NB neighborhood business district. The properties alongville 876 01:28:35,940 --> 01:28:38,740 Street are also part of the arc, arterial road corridor, or 877 01:28:38,740 --> 01:28:45,460 district to the north and to the west or two single family homes to the east is a two 878 01:28:45,460 --> 01:28:54,560 story building that is home to Iglesia apostolic at the Christoph church and to the south is a single 879 01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:03,900 family home and a one story commercial building home to a food store. Here are a couple this is the 880 01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:14,740 The bird's eye view of the properties looking to the north, as you can see, the property is mostly improved with the vehicle use area servicing the gas station. 881 01:29:14,940 --> 01:29:23,880 Gas station includes a canopy over fuel islands close to the villa street and the existing 12 on the square foot convenience store. 882 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:31,820 A couple photos of the sites, what it looks like today, the property, does have access to both 883 01:29:31,820 --> 01:29:38,300 Illinois Avenue on the east and access to villice street, as you can see, the majority of 884 01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:43,500 that front-age along villice street is all the press curb full access into the gas station. 885 01:29:45,420 --> 01:29:53,820 So, the applicant is proposing adaptive reuse of the existing property as a package liquor store establishment. 886 01:29:55,940 --> 01:29:59,960 The applicant would remove the canopy, the pump, the islands and the underp- 887 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,340 Ground tanks, clean up any contaminated soil, and then renovate the existing building for a package 888 01:30:07,340 --> 01:30:13,680 liquor sales establishment. The parking lot would be reconstructed entirely, and the vehicle use 889 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:19,900 area would be reduced slightly. There would be five parking spaces for employees and customers, 890 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,820 and then one loading space in the back of the building. 891 01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:27,460 In addition to the reducing the 892 01:30:27,460 --> 01:30:41,960 In pervious vehicle use area, on site the applicant would install permeable pavers, primarily on the west north and east sides of the building to further reduce the stormwater runoff. 893 01:30:43,740 --> 01:30:51,820 The applicant would keep the existing full access driveway to Illinois Avenue, but they would completely reconstruct the access to villas street. 894 01:30:51,820 --> 01:30:58,260 All that depressed curve would be removed and instead a normal full access drive wave would be constructed. 895 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:08,720 The applicant also reconstruct the existing public sidewalk that goes along villas street through the driveway and across the entire front page along villas street. 896 01:31:10,580 --> 01:31:19,540 The connections from the building to the sidewalks would be constructed on both sides to both sidewalk along villas and the one along Illinois Avenue. 897 01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:26,420 New landscaping will be installed throughout the site and compliance with the zoning ordinance. 898 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,420 That includes five street trees as you can see. 899 01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:35,540 Three along the east side along Illinois Avenue and two along Villa Street. 900 01:31:36,820 --> 01:31:42,000 The applicant would also install a new code compliant monument sign in the southeast corner of the property. 901 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:48,100 The building improvements include all new brick masonry on the exterior. 902 01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:55,220 The Upton would also install a new storefront windows on the south side of the building, with the main entrance to the 903 01:31:55,220 --> 01:32:00,940 liquor sales establishment would be, and then one new window on the east side of the building. 904 01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:11,700 A new masonry enclosure would be constructed in the back of the building, for refuse, and that enclosure would match the masonry of the building. 905 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:18,300 This is another view of the closed building, as seen from below street. 906 01:32:19,460 --> 01:32:27,280 The applicant is required to obtain a liquor license, if the zoning approval is, or the 907 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:32,000 zoning application is approved, and that liquor license must be obtained prior to start of 908 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,000 any alcohol sales on the property. 909 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:43,740 The proposal has one departure from the zoning ordinance, and I'll try to show that's the best on this landscape plan. 910 01:32:45,220 --> 01:32:55,100 The applicant has agreed to install a six-foot solid fence that essentially is going to be on the west property line. 911 01:32:55,100 --> 01:33:02,700 from if you can see my cursor from generally this point northward it's going to be installed 912 01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:08,340 on top of the existing retaining wall. Six foot solid fence to screen the property from the 913 01:33:08,340 --> 01:33:13,180 adjacent single family home that is to the west. And then similarly a six foot high fence would 914 01:33:13,180 --> 01:33:18,240 be installed along the north property line and that fence extends a little bit past the building. 915 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:24,100 So it's the portion of the fence that is east of the building that requires the departure 916 01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:29,460 and similarly portion of the fence that is south of the building that requires the departure. 917 01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:36,400 In those areas east and south of the building, those are street yards for only a four foot 918 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:41,820 high open design fence is allowed and obviously they are proposing six foot height fence. 919 01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:48,860 That's the only departure. The proposal is required to meet the standards for planned 920 01:33:48,860 --> 01:33:53,000 developments and standards for conditional use. 921 01:33:53,460 --> 01:33:56,940 We provide our findings of fact for the standards in the report. 922 01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:01,640 We do believe that all applicable standards are satisfied and therefore staff recommends 923 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:07,300 approval, subject to the conditions outlined in your packet and of those conditions. 924 01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:12,960 I'll note a couple that no consumption of alcohol will be permitted on site and that the 925 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,040 applicant would not be able to sell individual containers of beer and malt beverages that 926 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:24,360 less than 750 milliliters with that I would open up to any questions. 927 01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:25,020 Thank you. 928 01:34:25,220 --> 01:34:30,120 We appreciate that even highlighting those last couple items and to my recollection those 929 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:37,300 are pretty standard for maybe those of you listening at home or for this is if this is new for you. 930 01:34:37,900 --> 01:34:42,100 So they're being quite fairly applied so appreciate that description. 931 01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:49,040 questions now from the commission for city staff. We'll starting with Commissioner Abwale. 932 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,500 No questions. Thank you. Commissioner Jones. 933 01:34:56,700 --> 01:34:57,940 Thank you. 934 01:34:58,540 --> 01:34:59,740 Commissioner Jones. 935 01:35:02,340 --> 01:35:05,560 We're moving right online here, so thanks to me. 936 01:35:06,020 --> 01:35:06,840 You're welcome. 937 01:35:08,910 --> 01:35:11,510 Commissioner Magala, you're out. 938 01:35:11,770 --> 01:35:12,990 But do you come on I'm parking. 939 01:35:13,770 --> 01:35:18,030 I know there's only five stalls, and there are parking study done. 940 01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:20,250 Or in terms of the safety and sense of the use. 941 01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:23,530 And the car is coming and going, and respect to the clerk. 942 01:35:24,310 --> 01:35:25,470 Yeah, they're only required. 943 01:35:25,650 --> 01:35:26,650 I mean, it's a very small building. 944 01:35:26,810 --> 01:35:28,990 It's 1200 square feet, and it's like, 945 01:35:28,990 --> 01:35:33,230 and leaders sales have us going to like any other retail stores required to provide one parking space 946 01:35:33,230 --> 01:35:38,710 for 250 square feet of floor area. So they're only required to provide five parking stalls and that's 947 01:35:38,710 --> 01:35:46,930 how many they're proposing. They have space to add more if necessary but building of this size and 948 01:35:46,930 --> 01:35:53,410 type of this business generally does not have a large peak parking demand based on other comparable 949 01:35:53,410 --> 01:36:00,510 facilities and so five parking stalls with one employee are more than sufficient to satisfy 950 01:36:00,510 --> 01:36:07,430 the needs of this facility. Okay, and then in terms of the sense, we have a division of that, 951 01:36:07,450 --> 01:36:14,190 what pages that I have in our PDA. There are images of the fence part of the the rendering's 952 01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:22,350 provided. It's just noted as a six for high solid fence on the plans. This probably are the plans 953 01:36:22,350 --> 01:36:29,750 that showed the best in here, yeah, it's a simple six-foot solid sense. 954 01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:31,480 Okay. 955 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:33,880 I'll be right up for the city. 956 01:36:35,850 --> 01:36:36,110 Okay. 957 01:36:36,150 --> 01:36:38,450 So moving on, Commissioner Valdez. 958 01:36:40,340 --> 01:36:40,860 Thank you. 959 01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:42,560 Thank you. 960 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:43,860 And Commissioner Willemuth. 961 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:45,320 Good luck, please. 962 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:47,280 All right. 963 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,000 I only have one question for staff. 964 01:36:50,000 --> 01:37:05,810 is the to your knowledge or maybe this is for the petitioner is the the fence for what is the fence for is it for light noise sight lines yeah typically yeah 965 01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:11,550 typically the fence is required to separate commercial and residential areas in this case uh 966 01:37:11,550 --> 01:37:16,390 the properties both north and west are zone commercial but they are improved residential uses so the 967 01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:22,450 as a degree to install the fence as a sort of a good practice to be good neighbor considering 968 01:37:22,450 --> 01:37:27,570 that this is a commercial property, you know, activity from a commercial property is not, 969 01:37:28,610 --> 01:37:34,390 you know, it's sometimes more than a residential property, so they've agreed to provide the fence 970 01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:37,870 to neutralize any noise in any type of a commercial activity that takes place. 971 01:37:39,530 --> 01:37:44,450 Okay, was there any photometric done for this or are thought about? 972 01:37:45,650 --> 01:37:51,430 Yes, they have submitted a photometric plan, everything is in compliance, they will maintain 973 01:37:51,430 --> 01:37:56,450 the same, the light fixtures that are out there in the parking lot right now, they will 974 01:37:56,450 --> 01:37:58,690 not be stolen any new parking lot light fixtures. 975 01:37:59,070 --> 01:38:01,450 Okay, and if that was in the packet, I apologize if I missed it. 976 01:38:03,130 --> 01:38:09,630 So, those are my only questions, so we can move on now and look for the petitioner team 977 01:38:09,630 --> 01:38:18,130 to tell us your thoughts. So again, when you come on, please give us your name and address and 978 01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:20,010 what you hear from me. 979 01:38:23,110 --> 01:38:28,250 Keep me cracking. I'm the attorney for the petitioner. My address is 980 01:38:28,250 --> 01:38:38,730 1-001. It's mainstream in St. Charles that's sweet G60174. I'm here with the potential 981 01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:47,110 purchaser of this property, along with our architect. And quite frankly, we're just here 982 01:38:47,110 --> 01:38:52,810 that you have to answer any questions you have and address any issues as they might arise. 983 01:38:55,330 --> 01:39:01,630 Well, we appreciate that. If you're good with that, we can certainly jump into questions from the commission. 984 01:39:02,450 --> 01:39:06,930 So we'll start with Commissioner Abwahali. No questions, thank you. 985 01:39:08,750 --> 01:39:10,930 Commissioner Jones, you're up next. 986 01:39:11,730 --> 01:39:15,750 Looks like a great repurposed reuse of that property. 987 01:39:16,010 --> 01:39:18,570 Looks like it'll be very attractive when it's all done. 988 01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:20,350 Thank you for that. 989 01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:21,770 I have no questions for you. 990 01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:24,530 Commissioner McGowan. 991 01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:28,750 To the petition for writing more details on the fancy. 992 01:39:30,750 --> 01:39:35,150 In terms of, you know, I know to be six feet high, but anything in terms of a design or anything. 993 01:39:36,430 --> 01:39:39,050 Sure, now is the Fnows the opportunity. 994 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:42,740 My name is Andy Ketel. 995 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,380 The 3W series here, 1D or 1L in length. 996 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:53,160 The Fnows is actually requested by staff and we agreed to putting the Fnows. 997 01:39:54,820 --> 01:39:59,640 I'm okay with any kind of Fnows that you would think would enhance the property. 998 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:13,420 Are you making them properly look beautiful? I don't think we have any objections to any kind of fence that you would recommend, but it was recommended by staff that they wanted the fence added and we certainly said it should no problem. 999 01:40:17,460 --> 01:40:21,360 Okay. Nothing further further for the petitioner. Thank you. 1000 01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:25,020 Okay. Commissioner Valdez. Question for the petitioner. 1001 01:40:25,020 --> 01:40:26,520 Thank you. 1002 01:40:26,660 --> 01:40:28,000 Commissioner Woodemouth. 1003 01:40:28,940 --> 01:40:29,460 Questions? 1004 01:40:31,460 --> 01:40:31,720 All right. 1005 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,120 I have really just one question for the petitioner team. 1006 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:38,660 That is in our packet. 1007 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,320 I believe there were two. 1008 01:40:41,340 --> 01:40:43,680 Forgive me if the numbers are not exactly correct. 1009 01:40:44,440 --> 01:40:45,900 Response forms. 1010 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:49,880 I don't want to characterize it necessarily. 1011 01:40:50,140 --> 01:40:53,000 I just want to say if you if you've seen them. 1012 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:59,060 or it I think actually it's just one. I missed the front and back for two for two items. 1013 01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:04,960 Have you seen that and would you like to comment on that public response form? 1014 01:41:08,770 --> 01:41:15,870 Not seen it. I'd be happy to comment on it as soon as I've looked at it, but I have not seen it at this point. 1015 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:29,060 Staff would have be appropriate if I just lead it to them. Okay, just for the sake of, you know, 1016 01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:42,900 of this comment came from Kezimiro Gomez at 330 Illinois Avenue, it's as I believe it will 1017 01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:47,860 cause more disruption in the neighborhood, not sure how parking would work in such a small 1018 01:41:47,860 --> 01:41:55,260 area as well. So it looks like a two-prong comment. So if you could give us your thoughts on that, 1019 01:41:55,260 --> 01:42:00,340 appreciate it but again knowing that we're kind of putting on the spot we also understand if you 1020 01:42:00,340 --> 01:42:10,980 choose to decline. No, that's fine. We're happy to respond and appropriately indicated we have 1021 01:42:10,980 --> 01:42:19,920 provided sufficient parking parking for the area. This is a very small facility as a result of 1022 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,500 parking is sufficient, 1023 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:32,900 and the overall perspective is, and the objective is to substantially improve the site. 1024 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:45,300 So I think within the context of access and parking and aesthetics, there's a substantial improvement on all aspects. 1025 01:42:46,340 --> 01:43:04,840 And so I think that actually I respect his concerns, but I think he's going to be pleasantly surprised at the improvements that are being made to the site such that each one of those items are going to be addressed and minimized. 1026 01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:13,820 Okay. Well that was my only comment for you. So, a question I should say. So, this point 1027 01:43:13,820 --> 01:43:21,620 in time then we will turn this petition over to public hearing. So, for those of you who 1028 01:43:21,620 --> 01:43:33,460 remain, which looks like Mark, Jeff, David, a tool and Joe Lean, if any of you are here for 1029 01:43:33,460 --> 01:43:39,380 petition to comment on it now is your opportunity. Mr. Chairman, I am Mark Schoestrad here 1030 01:43:39,380 --> 01:43:47,720 here with Mr. Tools. I'm at an attorney. My address is 1, 2, 5, 0, lock and avenue, 1031 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:57,060 Elgin, Illinois. Who care to speak in opposition to the petition? Because we don't think that 1032 01:43:57,060 --> 01:44:02,320 serves the purposes of a neighborhood business district. 1033 01:44:03,260 --> 01:44:09,160 The purposes of that district are to provide daily convenience items and commodities to a neighborhood. 1034 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,700 And in fact, the petitioner notes that he would provide a location for the purchase of alcoholic 1035 01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:18,440 liquors in this neighborhood for his petition to be granted. 1036 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:26,780 However, there are already two liquor sales and establishments in this neighborhood business 1037 01:44:26,780 --> 01:44:32,320 District 1, 2 blocks to the west, the Walgreens, and 1, 2 blocks to the east, the Villa 1038 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:33,340 Lickers store. 1039 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:41,760 We think that would be an oversaturage in this neighborhood with Lickers sales and 1040 01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:48,560 establishments, and therefore, it doesn't really serve the purposes of a neighborhood of 1041 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:54,600 this neighborhood business district to approve another Lickers sales and establishments. 1042 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,960 the neighborhood as well served by the existing business, it's in it. 1043 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:20,460 Depth of reuse, but in fact, there's a going business on the site, the sickle gas station, and to have more sales of liquors in this neighborhood business district, it's just not needed. So there is no convenience, no more need for that commodity in this neighborhood. 1044 01:45:23,980 --> 01:45:34,440 Okay, my question for you is you referenced your representing a tool and what is that relationship and what is that? 1045 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:43,840 I'm his attorney. He runs the bill. He runs the bill of liquor's business at 695 bill of street to block to the east of this location. 1046 01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:49,300 Thank you. I understand everyone's perspective and this will appreciate that. 1047 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,840 All right, moving on. 1048 01:45:53,020 --> 01:45:56,020 A tool would you like to comment as well since you're on? 1049 01:45:56,900 --> 01:45:58,740 Well, thank you for the opportunity. 1050 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,200 Mark just mentioned. 1051 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,300 Let me start out by saying this. 1052 01:46:06,300 --> 01:46:08,820 This current business that I own of the Law Libbers, 1053 01:46:08,860 --> 01:46:10,640 which is located at 65. 1054 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:11,900 The last week, Belgium. 1055 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,440 It's been in my family since 1988. 1056 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,740 And I would like to say, ever since 1988, 1057 01:46:20,740 --> 01:46:28,820 three years I have not opposed any new regulations in the city but this is 1058 01:46:28,820 --> 01:46:34,060 absolutely made too close in my opinion so that's the reason I'm here tonight 1059 01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:39,340 this was a mile or two away I would not be here tonight I believe that everyone 1060 01:46:39,340 --> 01:46:45,660 deserves to be in a business and but like Mark and I just mentioned this is 1061 01:46:45,660 --> 01:46:50,020 within a locker to close anything. 1062 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:52,840 Thank you. 1063 01:46:52,900 --> 01:46:54,020 Okay, we appreciate that. 1064 01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:55,880 And for the court reporter, I apologize. 1065 01:46:56,100 --> 01:46:58,720 I didn't remind him to say his name spell it, 1066 01:46:58,860 --> 01:47:02,880 but it's ATU-L, S-U-V-A-G-I-A. 1067 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,080 And I believe in his testimony he gave his address. 1068 01:47:07,740 --> 01:47:07,820 All right. 1069 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,740 Did you get that in the 6.95, though? 1070 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,900 And Mr. Chairman, just one last comment. 1071 01:47:13,900 --> 01:47:23,320 I have represented other applicants for zoning and liquor licensing only to find that the city 1072 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:36,060 is mindful of the concentration of that type of use in a particular sector of the city and have been denied. 1073 01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:41,940 So that's more of the reason that we're here tonight. 1074 01:47:43,310 --> 01:47:45,570 Okay, we appreciate that. 1075 01:47:45,690 --> 01:47:50,110 I'm just going again through the list on my screen in the only, in the order that I see it. 1076 01:47:50,250 --> 01:47:52,910 That's why I'm looking at it this way as we've got Jeff, 1077 01:47:55,390 --> 01:47:57,070 David, Jolene, 1078 01:47:57,550 --> 01:48:00,430 are the remaining names that we haven't heard from. 1079 01:48:00,490 --> 01:48:02,990 If any of you would like to speak tonight, 1080 01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:06,470 getting ahead shake from staff. 1081 01:48:06,650 --> 01:48:08,370 They're probably part of the next petitions. 1082 01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:13,850 But I just wanted for the sake of keeping everything open and transparent. 1083 01:48:13,850 --> 01:48:19,470 give those people opportunity speak, but I believe we can safely close the public hearing portion 1084 01:48:19,470 --> 01:48:29,330 of this petition and look to staff for closing comments. Perhaps the applicant can address the 1085 01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:35,330 concerns from the public? You know I apologize yes we definitely like for that thank you for 1086 01:48:35,330 --> 01:48:36,450 reminder, Demir. 1087 01:48:37,870 --> 01:48:38,370 That's OK. 1088 01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:40,970 I appreciate Mr. Schuster's comments. 1089 01:48:43,700 --> 01:48:49,820 I too have represented a liquor store 1090 01:48:49,820 --> 01:48:55,200 owners who are not enthusiastic about the competition. 1091 01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:57,980 That is allowed. 1092 01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:03,860 I understand the concerns about the distance. 1093 01:49:03,860 --> 01:49:17,370 But I think the area contemplates the redevelopment and the adaptive reuse of the site. 1094 01:49:18,010 --> 01:49:24,510 And I think this use substantially improves what is currently located on that site. 1095 01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:35,810 And I recognize that sometimes competition is not pleasant, but it is what we're here to 1096 01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:42,330 request approval of and is what is allowed under the existing ordinance. 1097 01:49:43,070 --> 01:49:49,970 So I think that there is a bigger picture here and that is what makes more sense. 1098 01:49:50,850 --> 01:49:59,990 And the fact of the matter is, this is a substantial improvement over what is currently existing, and therefore, while I respect this. 1099 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:09,740 She's just comments. I think that competition should be encouraged and not disinsentivized. 1100 01:50:16,340 --> 01:50:27,680 Thank you for that. So then at this point in time, we can turn this back to city staff for any final comments. 1101 01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,080 Thank you Chairman Cox. Staff really doesn't have anything else to add. 1102 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,960 We provided our overview of the application and the, 1103 01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:37,240 I guess the standards were approval. 1104 01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:40,540 We do believe that all applicable standards are satisfied 1105 01:50:40,540 --> 01:50:42,520 and therefore staff recommends approval 1106 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:45,040 subject to the conditions out on the packet. 1107 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,620 OK, if there's any discussion amongst the commission 1108 01:50:51,620 --> 01:50:53,780 now is the opportunity, but if not, 1109 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,770 chair will entertain a motion for petition 56-21. 1110 01:50:58,770 --> 01:51:04,670 dash 21. Actually, before we do it, but move to motions on my 1111 01:51:04,670 --> 01:51:08,450 do I have a question for the city? Does the existing 1112 01:51:08,450 --> 01:51:13,410 zip-go currently sell package locker? I do not believe so. 1113 01:51:15,170 --> 01:51:19,870 All right, thank you. You're welcome. That's my question. All right, any other questions from 1114 01:51:19,870 --> 01:51:26,970 the commission? Chairman Capsis is here and I had just a comment. Go ahead. 1115 01:51:26,970 --> 01:51:34,350 that may. Yes. Thank you for bringing up these points with the additional liquor stores. 1116 01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:40,290 I, in preparation of this meeting, I could ask, Demir graciously sent me the strategic 1117 01:51:40,290 --> 01:51:45,030 principles and priorities for the city of Belgium. It looks like it's coming up for review 1118 01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:51,170 here pretty soon. It was from 2018 to 2022. And part of the reason that I asked was 1119 01:51:52,350 --> 01:52:13,850 touches on the things that you're mentioning here, but the, the, the petition before you for the tattoo artist, that will make the fourth tattoo parlor, tattoo artist and art venue that includes tattoos in the, within a three black radius, three or four black radius, 1120 01:52:13,850 --> 01:52:19,980 downtown Elgin where she's locating as well. And so I was looking at that document to see 1121 01:52:20,990 --> 01:52:30,480 if there was any type of plan for that type of saturation and they don't seem to address it in here 1122 01:52:30,830 --> 01:52:35,510 but it was the same issue for that petition and it was that was before that there was there 1123 01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:40,510 our three other tattoo parlors in a very close proximity so I appreciate you bringing 1124 01:52:40,510 --> 01:52:47,890 bringing that up but maybe that's something that the City Council can look to as far as 1125 01:52:47,890 --> 01:52:54,590 that density and multiple businesses when they start reviewing strategic planning for 1126 01:52:54,590 --> 01:52:55,370 2023. 1127 01:52:55,730 --> 01:53:00,410 Hope they'll be a four year process moving forward but thank you very much for your comments 1128 01:53:00,410 --> 01:53:01,190 and observations. 1129 01:53:04,980 --> 01:53:09,260 I've heard from Commissioner Jones, Commissioner McGala, just go through the list here 1130 01:53:09,260 --> 01:53:13,740 Commissioner Aubwala, do you have any questions or comments before we make a motion? 1131 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,220 I do not have any additional questions. 1132 01:53:19,620 --> 01:53:20,320 Thank you. 1133 01:53:20,700 --> 01:53:21,580 Commissioner Valdez. 1134 01:53:23,940 --> 01:53:25,300 Commissioner Wildermouth. 1135 01:53:26,940 --> 01:53:27,620 No questions. 1136 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:29,480 All right. 1137 01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:36,460 City staff, I do have one question since it was referenced in Mr. Schuster's comments. 1138 01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:42,380 There was a question about license as being denied because of distance or set 1139 01:53:42,380 --> 01:53:47,580 by the city and only because he said city, I thought I would check with you to see if you have any 1140 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,800 knowledge that can corroborate his comment. 1141 01:53:52,520 --> 01:54:00,560 I do not. I know it is, it is, once if disowning is approved, then the applicant has to obtain a liquor license. 1142 01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:03,560 And so the city council 1143 01:54:05,060 --> 01:54:05,620 can 1144 01:54:06,860 --> 01:54:10,540 choose to approve another liquor license or deny it. 1145 01:54:10,540 --> 01:54:17,440 I don't have any data on how many of such licenses have been denied in the past. 1146 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:24,620 We have not had an application for a so liquor store or liquor sales establishment in 1147 01:54:24,620 --> 01:54:25,200 a quite a while. 1148 01:54:25,700 --> 01:54:31,840 We've had a lot of these accessory package, liquor sales, which are essentially convenience stores 1149 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,080 of sometimes part of gas stations other times not. 1150 01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:45,660 So as far as I know in the last five years, so not of those have been denied, but they do consider obviously many aspects of these applications. 1151 01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:50,180 Yeah, it was probably our minetti, so it was probably the last one. 1152 01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:51,460 Well, that one's an operation. 1153 01:54:51,740 --> 01:54:54,200 Right. Right. Right. 1154 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:54,560 Okay. 1155 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:55,980 All right. 1156 01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,420 So then at this point in time, the cheer will entertain emotion. 1157 01:55:00,110 --> 01:55:03,230 For this petition again, 56-21. 1158 01:55:45,340 --> 01:55:52,640 Commissioner Jones? Yes. Commissioner Abwali? No. Commissioner Valdez? 1159 01:55:54,220 --> 01:55:56,380 Okay. Commissioner Wilgrimuth? 1160 01:56:00,180 --> 01:56:05,300 Yes. Chairman Cox? No. The motion is approved 1161 01:56:05,300 --> 01:56:13,540 for 20. Excuse me, four to two. All right. And just realizing there were a couple of 1162 01:56:13,540 --> 01:56:18,180 We talked about this, do we need to enumerate that or were we satisfied? 1163 01:56:19,700 --> 01:56:19,800 All right. 1164 01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:20,500 Thank you. 1165 01:56:20,740 --> 01:56:22,860 It's trying to, again, keep everything great for the record. 1166 01:56:23,860 --> 01:56:24,100 All right. 1167 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:28,520 So, to the petitioner team, that'll be our recommendation to City Council. 1168 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:33,940 And again, as we said before, work with staff for the dates for these. 1169 01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:36,760 This item to be heard in front of City Council. 1170 01:56:38,540 --> 01:56:39,740 Thank you very much. 1171 01:56:40,020 --> 01:56:40,580 Thank you. 1172 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:41,300 Thanks for coming. 1173 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:41,980 Have a great evening. 1174 01:56:41,980 --> 01:56:42,160 on. 1175 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:51,460 All right. Moving on then the last petition on our agenda for tonight. That is for 1460 1176 01:56:51,460 --> 01:56:54,920 Sheldon Drive petition 49-21. 1177 01:56:58,100 --> 01:57:01,180 Thank you Chairman Cox and again for this petition. We do have 1178 01:57:01,180 --> 01:57:07,740 proof of proper notice. Thank you. This is the so school district you 46 has applicant property owners 1179 01:57:07,740 --> 01:57:16,700 requesting a pool of a planned development as an app amendment. With the purchase from the 1180 01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:20,680 dispensing motor fuel, transition landscape AR, vehicle use 1181 01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:25,000 area interior landscape AR, vehicle use area interior 1182 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,400 set back and any other departures, as maybe necessary or 1183 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,180 desirable, to expand the existing parking lot at 1184 01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:35,200 school district to 46 plant operations facility, the 1185 01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,400 property commonly referred to as 1460 Sheldon Drive. 1186 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:44,380 So, the subject property is approximately five acres 1187 01:57:44,380 --> 01:57:53,300 in size outline here in yellow. It is on the north side of Sheldon Drive that is approximately 1188 01:57:53,300 --> 01:58:00,840 600 feet east of Shales Parkway. As you can see, Zone GI, General Industrial, and the properties 1189 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:07,220 to the east west and to the south are also Zone GI or PGI. Both properties that are east 1190 01:58:07,220 --> 01:58:12,420 and west are improved by industrial buildings. The one to the west is home to a building 1191 01:58:12,420 --> 01:58:18,680 supply company, whereas one on the east is general contractor and a truck repair shop. 1192 01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:26,280 And into the south is the PGI's own property that was approved for a 475,000 square foot 1193 01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:32,880 light industrial building back in 2018 that building that project is currently under construction. 1194 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:41,060 Here is the bird's eye view of the subject property and the area of parking lot expansion 1195 01:58:41,060 --> 01:58:45,220 that's indicated on the north side of the existing building. As you can see, the property 1196 01:58:45,220 --> 01:58:51,380 includes a 63,000 square foot, one story building, an accessory parking that is generally 1197 01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:58,800 east, south, and west of the existing building. There is a total of 54 parking spaces for staff 1198 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:05,400 on the east and in the south parking lot, and then 103 parking spaces in the west parking lot. 1199 01:59:05,940 --> 01:59:10,640 That area west of the building, the west parking lot, is used solely by service vehicles 1200 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:18,640 for U46. The property also includes a salt dome within the west parking lot and a 1201 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:26,040 an above ground tank for fueling surface vehicles in the southwest area of the property. 1202 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:36,660 In general, the property is enclosed in the six foot high solid fence that also wraps around the fueling equipment in the southwest corner. 1203 01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:43,800 So the applicant is proposing to expand the existing parking lot by constructing a new parking 1204 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:49,420 lot on the north side of the building and on this site plan, the north is on your right, 1205 01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:53,260 Sheldon Drive, the entrance to the properties on the left. 1206 01:59:54,260 --> 01:59:57,620 So the north parking lot is on the right hand side of the existing building. 1207 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:25,660 The new parking lot would have 47 stalls. All those parking spaces would be designated for staff. The facility has approximately 100 employees on a daily basis and the only 54 stalls for staff does not have enough parking for employees. So with the proposed 47 stalls, it would have 101 parking spaces for staff, which could satisfy the needs of the facility. 1208 02:00:25,660 --> 02:00:40,860 with the other 103 parking spaces in the west parking lot that brings the total of 204 parking spaces on site and that far exceeds the regulatory requirement of 607 parking spaces for this facility. 1209 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:48,220 Now, the new parking line would be located 28.8 feet from the north property line, and then 1210 02:00:48,220 --> 02:00:56,860 at the far north west corner, the turnaround driveway is actually up to 10.2 feet from 1211 02:00:56,860 --> 02:01:01,480 the north property line that's the closest point and gets to the north property line. 1212 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:07,960 The applicant would remove nine existing Evergreen trees to accommodate the new parking 1213 02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:08,880 lot of expansion. 1214 02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:17,620 However, they would preserve all existing, all 14 existing, deciduous trees, 1215 02:01:18,180 --> 02:01:24,500 and they would also install 43 new Evergreen trees to fill in the space in between the existing 1216 02:01:24,500 --> 02:01:27,800 trees to provide additional screening for the residences to the north. 1217 02:01:30,020 --> 02:01:31,460 The existing six 1218 02:01:31,460 --> 02:01:37,440 for high fence would remain. Also, for that mention, the 43 new evergreen trees would be 1219 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:42,640 eight feet tall at the time of installation. Typically, we see these trees at six feet high 1220 02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:48,720 of the time of installation. They have agreed to upsize these trees so that they are above the 1221 02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:56,460 existing fence and to enhance that screaming for the neighbors to the north. In addition, 1222 02:01:56,460 --> 02:02:02,560 additional landscaping will be provided on the south side of the south parking lot, and 1223 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:08,620 then additional arborivities will be installed to soften the fence that currently exists and wraps 1224 02:02:08,620 --> 02:02:14,940 around the fueling equipment in the southwest corner of the property. The applicant would construct 1225 02:02:14,940 --> 02:02:20,940 a five-foot public sidewalk along Sheldon Drive with a connection to the building. 1226 02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:23,620 The proposal 1227 02:02:23,620 --> 02:02:26,000 So it requires several of the partners from the zoning ordinance. 1228 02:02:26,140 --> 02:02:32,700 The first one is essentially to make it a compliant, that equipment for dispensing motor 1229 02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:36,260 fuel that already exists in the street yard, it's not allowed. 1230 02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,920 This ordinance would make it conforming and compliant. 1231 02:02:42,340 --> 02:02:46,220 The six for high solid fence, again, the same thing that already exists that wraps around 1232 02:02:46,220 --> 02:02:51,160 the fueling equipment, the applicant is proposing to maintain that in the street yard 1233 02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:53,260 where six feet high fences are not allowed. 1234 02:02:55,730 --> 02:02:58,750 Transition landscape yard of minimum 52 feet is required 1235 02:02:58,750 --> 02:03:01,050 because the property to the north is residential. 1236 02:03:01,410 --> 02:03:04,170 As I mentioned, the parking lot that's closest point 1237 02:03:04,170 --> 02:03:06,990 gets to about 10 feet from the north property line, 1238 02:03:07,590 --> 02:03:09,550 but the majority of the rest of the parking lot 1239 02:03:09,550 --> 02:03:14,250 is approximately 28.8 feet from the north property line. 1240 02:03:17,630 --> 02:03:21,390 The applicant is proposing to install 57 shape trees 1241 02:03:21,390 --> 02:03:33,130 And every increase in total, instead of, you know, in addition to what's required, and then instead of 100 shrubs, they're proposing 70 shrubs along the North property line. 1242 02:03:34,410 --> 02:03:51,230 The vehicle use area, interior landscape yard requirement is essentially 5% of the total area that that's 6,179 with 25 trees and 25 shrubs, they're proposing only 2,300 square feet to maximize the number of parking spaces on site. 1243 02:03:52,190 --> 02:03:54,710 That's about 2% of the vehicle use area. 1244 02:03:55,330 --> 02:03:59,170 They are also proposing two trees within that area, south of the building. 1245 02:04:00,350 --> 02:04:02,390 And approximately 30 shrubs. 1246 02:04:03,230 --> 02:04:08,650 I mentioned earlier that they are far exceeding the number of required trees within the 1247 02:04:08,650 --> 02:04:10,130 Transition landscape yard. 1248 02:04:10,430 --> 02:04:13,770 Instead of the 12 shade and every green trees, they are proposing total of 57. 1249 02:04:16,270 --> 02:04:23,770 And then finally, the parking lot expansion is required to be 7 feet from the side 1250 02:04:23,770 --> 02:04:24,570 lot line. 1251 02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:30,470 The access to that north parking lot east of the building would be 3.8 feet at its closest 1252 02:04:30,470 --> 02:04:33,630 point to the east property line. 1253 02:04:35,630 --> 02:04:41,010 The proposal is required to meet the standards for map amendments and for plan 1254 02:04:41,010 --> 02:04:46,930 developments. We provided our overview of the standards in the packet and we do believe that 1255 02:04:46,930 --> 02:04:52,850 all standards have been satisfied. With that, staff would recommend approval, subject to the 1256 02:04:52,850 --> 02:04:59,870 conditions outlined in your packet. I will note a couple of those of one is that the building 1257 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:10,760 Wanted light fixtures on the north side of the building for that parking lot, have a shield on the north side of those light fixtures so that the light source is not visible from the residences. 1258 02:05:11,780 --> 02:05:18,860 The photometric plan submitted in the packet is compliant with the zoning ordinance, but this would be a one step further so that the light source is not visible. 1259 02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:24,640 And then the other one is that the two existing non-conforming directional signs along 1260 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:28,020 Sheldon Drive be removed, which the applicant has agreed to. 1261 02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:31,280 So, with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. 1262 02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:33,620 Appreciate it. 1263 02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:39,220 Looking to commission again, starting with Commissioner Abwali, questions for staff. 1264 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,060 No questions for staff. 1265 02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:41,640 Thank you. 1266 02:05:42,020 --> 02:05:42,800 Commissioner Jones. 1267 02:05:44,020 --> 02:05:44,660 No questions. 1268 02:05:44,900 --> 02:05:45,700 Thank you. 1269 02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:46,740 Commissioner Magala. 1270 02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:49,220 the 1271 02:05:49,220 --> 02:05:50,520 the mayor is going to be a burn on the 1272 02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:51,840 north side as it just be the 1273 02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:53,340 screening provided by the evergreen 1274 02:05:53,340 --> 02:05:56,020 trees are over what else can talk to 1275 02:05:56,020 --> 02:05:57,920 me about the photography and features 1276 02:05:57,920 --> 02:05:59,700 of the north side. Yeah, they're not 1277 02:05:59,700 --> 02:06:02,240 proposing any ever any burn because of the 1278 02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:06,180 existing trees. There's a there are what I 1279 02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:11,980 say 14 existing the situous trees that are 1280 02:06:11,980 --> 02:06:15,260 pretty mature. There's pretty tight 1281 02:06:15,260 --> 02:06:21,180 space between the curb and those trees to create a meaningful berm. There is already a six foot fence 1282 02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:27,360 there that's going to remain. So instead of the berm we ask them to upsize the trees instead 1283 02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:32,340 of a six foot high evergreen. They're installing eight foot high evergreen at the time of installation. 1284 02:06:33,260 --> 02:06:37,760 So so we felt that was a good compromise considering the, you know, the small space that's going to be there 1285 02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:41,320 between. Very good. Thank you. Thank you for your welcome. 1286 02:06:44,110 --> 02:06:46,230 All right Commissioner Valdez questions for staff. 1287 02:06:47,490 --> 02:06:48,590 No question. 1288 02:06:50,170 --> 02:06:51,190 Commissioner Wildermuth. 1289 02:06:52,130 --> 02:06:53,130 No questions. 1290 02:06:54,590 --> 02:06:56,350 All right, I don't know any questions for staff. 1291 02:06:57,950 --> 02:06:59,750 So I'm moving on to the petitioner team. 1292 02:07:01,050 --> 02:07:03,570 I think I see some faces that we've seen before, 1293 02:07:04,110 --> 02:07:07,490 but although one change, I think we see the full face 1294 02:07:07,490 --> 02:07:12,290 where last time we saw you was partly obscured. 1295 02:07:12,970 --> 02:07:14,410 So welcome back. 1296 02:07:14,410 --> 02:07:21,490 I have again following the procedures requested if you can state your name, spell it, give us your address and then tell us your thoughts. 1297 02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:29,240 My name is Jolane Lenniman. I'm a project, 1298 02:07:31,610 --> 02:07:34,750 a special project coordinator for the District of New 46. 1299 02:07:36,230 --> 02:07:41,910 Coming to you once again, 1460 Sheldon Drive in Eljun. 1300 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:56,270 Really, it's a combination that we bring this petition before you to give us more parking space for our staff and visitors that come to visit us quite often. 1301 02:07:57,070 --> 02:07:58,350 It's plan operations. 1302 02:07:59,110 --> 02:08:05,550 We do business services out of the same building, which is the distribution center for our district. 1303 02:08:05,550 --> 02:08:17,590 So any school books or textbooks that come in, supplies, things like that, we'll come into the Distribution Center, and then we bring it out to all the schools. 1304 02:08:18,350 --> 02:08:30,810 So you can understand the traffic that we have. The other portion of this is to give a emergency access lane all the way around our building, which we currently do not have. 1305 02:08:31,570 --> 02:08:43,810 So if we would ever have emergency vehicles they would have to pull in and then back up and as you know with big vehicles that is pretty unsafe. 1306 02:08:46,070 --> 02:08:55,450 So those would be the two main reasons for resurfacing this parking lot and adding the additional lane and parking spaces. 1307 02:08:56,710 --> 02:09:04,520 Jeff from HLR is also here. You usually see us both together. I don't know if he has anything to add on it. 1308 02:09:06,900 --> 02:09:10,700 Well, he does, certainly. Now is the opportunity. So. 1309 02:09:11,380 --> 02:09:17,040 Here are all a few things. Jeff Mindel, the civil engineer with Hampton, the Zenian Rennwick. 1310 02:09:18,020 --> 02:09:25,120 Just I think the mirror and Julian covered pretty much everything, but I'll just reiterate that. 1311 02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:36,100 I believe there was at least one concern for a resident about possible noise for the adjacent town homes on the north. 1312 02:09:36,860 --> 02:09:43,220 Really, that area in the back, even though it's parking, that's staff parking, so it's just cars. 1313 02:09:43,220 --> 02:09:46,740 It's the mere point out there will be a lot of trees there. 1314 02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:55,400 It'll be a solid wall of green trees in addition to the existing deciduous trees and the solid wood fence. 1315 02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:59,960 The turnaround area at the northwest corner in the back. 1316 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:09,740 Really won't get you as much. That's there mainly, if a fire truck or large truck went back there and didn't go around the west side of the building that they could turn around there. 1317 02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:29,380 So, and then from a traffic standpoint, really nothing's changing. The traffic's still coming in and out of the same driveway is on children drive. So, really not a significant change. It's pretty consistent to with the other adjacent sites to the eastern west. So, it's a good fit for the area. 1318 02:10:33,580 --> 02:10:43,060 Right? We appreciate that. I believe that is the extent the petitioner team, right? Just two of you tonight. 1319 02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:52,140 All right. Sorry. I'm shifting back between the big screen. Those of you here in my computer screen as well. 1320 02:10:52,880 --> 02:11:01,660 So, appreciate again the patience. So, at this point in time, then we'll give the commission the opportunity to ask questions of you. 1321 02:11:01,660 --> 02:11:03,700 So I'll start with Commissioner Abwali. 1322 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:06,900 No questions, thank you. 1323 02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:08,000 Commissioner Jones. 1324 02:11:13,710 --> 02:11:17,970 In the property to the east of this location, 1325 02:11:18,210 --> 02:11:23,470 are those tractor trailer semis that are parked behind that? 1326 02:11:23,490 --> 02:11:26,010 The building that would be adjacent to where 1327 02:11:26,010 --> 02:11:28,670 you're going to have cars parked, right? 1328 02:11:29,210 --> 02:11:29,530 Right. 1329 02:11:29,650 --> 02:11:32,570 That's currently half of that building 1330 02:11:32,570 --> 02:11:34,090 is a truck repair. 1331 02:11:34,970 --> 02:11:37,950 And that's where you're seeing the tractor trailers. 1332 02:11:38,250 --> 02:11:42,050 The other half is a countertop manufacturer. 1333 02:11:46,270 --> 02:11:48,850 I'm really impressed with the improvements and investment 1334 02:11:48,850 --> 02:11:52,070 that the district has been making in so many properties 1335 02:11:52,070 --> 02:11:53,490 over the last couple of years. 1336 02:11:54,450 --> 02:11:55,790 Thank you for your question. 1337 02:11:56,330 --> 02:11:56,890 Yeah, thank you. 1338 02:12:00,210 --> 02:12:01,370 Commissioner Megala. 1339 02:12:04,710 --> 02:12:06,150 I have no questions for the district. 1340 02:12:06,430 --> 02:12:06,830 Thank you. 1341 02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:08,710 Commissioner Valdez. 1342 02:12:12,020 --> 02:12:12,900 Commissioner Weldermuth. 1343 02:12:14,060 --> 02:12:21,160 questions. All right, I do not have any questions for you. So we will open this up to 1344 02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:22,300 you public comment. 1345 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:29,340 I see two names with us still who are people who may qualify 1346 02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:34,920 likely from previous petitions but since they are here, there's no one in the 1347 02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:40,380 chambers but now it was the time of Harold or Amy would like to comment and I was 1348 02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:40,920 opportunity. 1349 02:12:47,810 --> 02:12:52,150 All right, believe we've given ample time for the unmuting of the cameras to turn on. 1350 02:12:52,490 --> 02:12:57,110 So we look back to staff for any final comments. 1351 02:12:58,330 --> 02:12:59,690 Nothing else to add. 1352 02:12:59,890 --> 02:13:00,610 Uh, staff leaves at all. 1353 02:13:00,610 --> 02:13:04,170 Apocalypse standards are satisfied and staff recommends approval subject conditions. 1354 02:13:05,970 --> 02:13:06,130 All right. 1355 02:13:06,330 --> 02:13:11,730 Thank you. So at this point in time, then the chair will entertain a motion for petition 49-21. 1356 02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:16,350 This is Nancy. I move to recommend that city council. 1357 02:13:16,690 --> 02:13:22,130 Protection 49 dash 21 subject to the conditions outlined within our packet. 1358 02:13:22,690 --> 02:13:24,550 And to adopt as the findings of the commission. 1359 02:13:24,910 --> 02:13:27,710 Those findings also provided within our packet. 1360 02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:30,150 Thank you very much. Is there a second? 1361 02:13:30,790 --> 02:13:32,590 I second. Karen. 1362 02:13:33,090 --> 02:13:34,930 All right. Staff, please call the roll. 1363 02:13:35,410 --> 02:13:36,110 Commissioner of Wally. 1364 02:13:37,290 --> 02:13:37,550 Yes. 1365 02:13:38,170 --> 02:13:38,790 Commissioner Jones. 1366 02:13:39,770 --> 02:13:40,230 Yes. 1367 02:13:40,230 --> 02:13:44,910 Commissioner Megala. Yes. Commissioner Valdez. 1368 02:13:47,610 --> 02:13:49,750 Commissioner Wilzermuth. Yes. 1369 02:13:50,610 --> 02:13:57,850 And Chairman Cox. Yes. Motion is approved. Six to zero. All right. Thank you. 1370 02:13:58,130 --> 02:14:03,690 That'll be a recommendation to city council. And as we said a few times tonight, you're very familiar with. 1371 02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:08,030 Work with staff on those dates and go look for the project. 1372 02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:10,130 Thank you. 1373 02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:12,840 Very much. 1374 02:14:13,580 --> 02:14:14,000 All right. 1375 02:14:14,460 --> 02:14:16,420 Moving on to item G, other business. 1376 02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:22,380 Any business from my fellow commissioners at this point. 1377 02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:28,110 Hearing none and seeing a couple of head shaking no. 1378 02:14:28,570 --> 02:14:30,790 Moving on to item H public comment. 1379 02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:37,130 Again, no one's in the chamber and I see people falling off the zoom call. 1380 02:14:40,230 --> 02:14:50,130 So we can safely move on to the summary of pending development applications, which as exciting as all these petitions are is also highlighted the evening, so Demir take us away. 1381 02:14:51,850 --> 02:14:57,270 The only thing I'll highlight is that the items that we're at the planning is on the commission last month are all moving to council. 1382 02:14:57,930 --> 02:14:59,350 This Wednesday for consideration. 1383 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,180 That includes the new Starbucks in front of Russo and the deltire, deltire store at north of the Meyers store. 1384 02:15:09,860 --> 02:15:12,920 In terms of any new applications, nothing of substance. 1385 02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:26,720 We have a package, liquor sales, establishments, or I should say, an application is part of the 711 on at 1570 North Randall that's just north of the Subaru dealership. 1386 02:15:27,700 --> 02:15:35,220 So the next meeting is on on the 7th of February, we'll probably have two or three items for that meeting as well. 1387 02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:37,620 So, there's any questions? 1388 02:15:37,900 --> 02:15:38,460 I'm happy to answer. 1389 02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:41,880 So if it's only two or three, that would be a late evening. 1390 02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:43,240 Not yet, we'll think. 1391 02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:45,380 All right, any questions for staff? 1392 02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:48,800 If not, we'll entertain a motion for adjournment. 1393 02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:53,700 Yeah, I have a question in some of my neighbors have asked, 1394 02:15:53,700 --> 02:16:02,480 It's a mirror where we get with the planned gas station on 20 just I guess it would be west of 1395 02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:04,380 Cumes and Plank. 1396 02:16:06,510 --> 02:16:09,750 I think you're out of gas station there and then it's been. 1397 02:16:10,830 --> 02:16:13,150 There's been no activity out there for for many, many months. 1398 02:16:13,510 --> 02:16:14,750 So we've received two. 1399 02:16:16,570 --> 02:16:19,530 We've been made aware of plans for two gas stations. 1400 02:16:19,610 --> 02:16:23,550 One of the northeast corner, one of the northwest corner of Cumes and Route 20. 1401 02:16:24,710 --> 02:16:34,470 In terms of their design, the one at the North East corner is kind of further along, but neither of those properties are continuous to the city. 1402 02:16:36,170 --> 02:16:48,310 So they would have to go through the approval process with the King County, but they feel that there's a benefit to them being in the city and going through the process of annexation and all that. 1403 02:16:48,310 --> 02:16:52,470 So they're trying to find ways to become 1404 02:16:52,470 --> 02:17:00,350 continuous to the city and then ultimately file the application for petition to annex along with the zoning approvals for those gas stations. 1405 02:17:00,690 --> 02:17:05,170 Like I said, the north east corner properties further along the design process. 1406 02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:12,770 The north west is only at the beginning, so it's probably going to be a while if that one moves forward. 1407 02:17:12,770 --> 02:17:19,130 the one of the northeast corner, the thing of their agreements with the adjacent properties that can give them 1408 02:17:19,130 --> 02:17:25,250 continued, you know, continuity, you know, that could happen sooner maybe a while. So we'll see. 1409 02:17:26,570 --> 02:17:34,850 There's an interesting, because it's the northwest corner that has a signage on there, and you know, feature almost, you know, some guests, they should have something good. 1410 02:17:34,850 --> 02:17:43,950 And they may have switched their conversations and they thought and they may decide to just do 1411 02:17:43,950 --> 02:17:51,290 permitting through Cain County, in which case we have no information about those, but if they opt 1412 02:17:52,670 --> 02:17:58,250 to, you know, find a way to annex into the city, then they'll have to go through here, obviously, and we'll go through there. 1413 02:18:00,250 --> 02:18:01,250 Thank you. You're welcome. 1414 02:18:02,940 --> 02:18:05,400 All right, any other questions for staff? 1415 02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:11,860 Otherwise, again, we'll be pointing to a motion for adjournment. 1416 02:18:15,350 --> 02:18:16,090 So moved. 1417 02:18:16,770 --> 02:18:17,830 All right, is there a second? 1418 02:18:20,630 --> 02:18:21,190 Thank you. 1419 02:18:21,210 --> 02:18:22,230 Staff, please call the roll. 1420 02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:23,270 Commissioner McGala? 1421 02:18:24,350 --> 02:18:24,550 Yes. 1422 02:18:25,050 --> 02:18:25,830 Commissioner Abwali? 1423 02:18:26,950 --> 02:18:26,970 Yes. 1424 02:18:27,470 --> 02:18:28,270 Commissioner Jones? 1425 02:18:29,170 --> 02:18:29,530 Yes. 1426 02:18:29,950 --> 02:18:31,210 Commissioner Valdez? 1427 02:18:32,610 --> 02:18:32,870 Yes. 1428 02:18:33,490 --> 02:18:34,770 Commissioner Wildermooth? 1429 02:18:35,590 --> 02:18:35,870 Yes. 1430 02:18:36,250 --> 02:18:37,130 Yeah, and Chairman Cox? 1431 02:18:37,130 --> 02:18:38,290 Yes 1432 02:18:40,230 --> 02:18:50,050 All right, thank you everyone have a great evening. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Good night