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[1:16] » Sorry, I got your comments.
[1:22] All right.
[1:28] Um, roll call.
>> All right. Uh, chair Gina Marie Warren
[1:32] » here.
>> Uh, Vice Chair Kenna Collins
[1:34] » here.
>> Uh, vice sorry, uh, council president
[1:37] Terresa Schaefer
>> here.
[1:39] » Councelor Tiffany Lambert
>> here.
[1:41] » And council member, sorry, committee
member Dorian Baker
[1:44] » here.
>> Promoting you.
[1:47] » We do have a quorum. Madam Chair,
>> um do we have anything to revise or
[1:53] approve of the agenda?
>> Not really. Um there was something the
[1:57] council referred to us at the previous
council meeting, so I called it old
[2:00] business, but otherwise
[2:09] » So there there needs to be a motion to
approve the agenda.
[2:12] » Okay. I motion to approve the agenda.
I'll second.
[2:20] All in favor?
>> I I
[2:29] » All right. Oops.
[2:34] Old business.
[2:39] » Excuse me. I'm so sorry. Any old
business you want to follow up on?
[2:42] » Is there any old business you want to
follow up on? Thank you.
[2:46] So, the at the city council meeting, we
were going to uh prepare a community
[2:53] event preparation checklist.
>> Yeah.
[2:55] » And I'm assuming we're going to do that
today or start on it.
[2:59] » Yeah, we start on it. Uh the idea is to
figure out what things should the city
[3:03] plan on doing before there is an event
downtown. Um I think uh some ideas.
[3:08] » You have some ideas.
>> I'm all ears.
[3:12] » Well, things definitely need to be
weeded.
[3:16] just before events, but um cleaned up,
the trash needs picked up, our red
[3:22] garbage cans need to be changed.
>> Um so I I mentioned before the last
[3:28] council meeting that to have possibly a
school organization um paint the tops of
[3:33] those cans.
>> I love that idea.
[3:35] » Um to add a little bit of art to town
because I've been a big pusher of art
[3:39] and it gives the opportunity to make one
each different.
[3:42] » Nice. Yeah, I like that a lot. So, um,
obviously we need to make sure that the
[3:48] trees are pruned so that they're safe.
>> What about the street sweat?
[3:54] » No, this is for parks.
>> Oh,
[3:57] » well, it's downtown. I mean, yeah,
street sweeping.
[4:00] » It's more like the I've tried so many
times to get money for street.
[4:05] » Someday someday the billionaires in DC
will stop logging in each time.
[4:09] » The trees so you can walk down the side.
And
[4:12] » yeah. Um, so we need to obviously
there's no reason our
[4:18] public works can't use a leaf blower and
clean off the sidewalks and
[4:24] um
we
[4:29] obviously the lawns need mow. I mean
general maintenance on things is
[4:34] not reaching for the stars. is the
upkeep of the city uh areas uh something
[4:42] that the uh public works already has uh
on their list of things to do so that
[4:50] » you don't need to do like a special
thing
[4:53] » like a maintenance list instead of just
doing it like
[4:57] » yeah like one big thing just doing it
like regularly monthly or something just
[5:02] to go over
>> maybe somebody drives through and really
[5:05] likes our area without a big event.
>> Yeah, I like that idea.
[5:10] » It's a fascinating question. Doesn't
have a good answer.
[5:13] » Well, because we don't have job
descriptions right now.
[5:16] » So, yeah. So, three years ago, the city
adopted new job descriptions across the
[5:21] whole entire system for everybody who is
here. Um, that included public works and
[5:26] our understanding was the public works
job descriptions we had on hand included
[5:30] maintenance of all city properties.
There is one dedicated maintenance
[5:33] person and that is all he does. Whereas
public works maintains the water and the
[5:37] sewer and the streets, we had an
understanding based on those job
[5:40] descriptions that this was part of their
job as well. However, uh turns out all
[5:44] the job descriptions that were rewritten
three years ago were simply lost.
[5:48] They're all gone. They weren't put in
people's personnel files. They had been
[5:52] signed by city employees. They had been
signed by two members of city council
[5:55] each and whoever was running the city
government at the time administratively
[5:59] gone.
>> We don't know what happened to it. So to
[6:02] answer your question, there are new job
descriptions being
[6:05] » written up and they will be signed. But
as of right now, no.
[6:09] » Is anybody saying it's not my job?
>> No, that's not what we're getting. It's
[6:14] the one person whose job it definitively
is.
[6:17] » Um is also stretched a little bit right
now.
[6:20] » Um our ordinance officer's position was
changed a few months ago so that they
[6:23] spend they're allowed to spend half
their time on other public works
[6:26] projects and they have been helping out
with maintenance. Um that's been very
[6:30] helpful. We've also got uh the kids of
the Oregon Youth Authority come by and
[6:33] help with maintenance uh when that needs
to happen.
[6:36] » Good. So, in answer, this is simply to
make sure when we have the rodeo or
[6:42] riverfest or Sasquatch Festival or
downtown Trickor Treat that we have a
[6:47] checklist that they are required to go
make sure those things are done and they
[6:51] are in good working order or you know,
little league um parade or whatever that
[6:57] we don't have weeds growing, we don't
have. But wouldn't that be the
[7:00] responsibility of the department manager
rather than
[7:06] » Well, that is why we're putting a
checklist together so that there is
[7:09] accountability to make sure that those
things are in fact followed through.
[7:12] » Well, and I like Dorian's plan that it
is a monthly thing because we were hit
[7:16] last minute with the little league
thing. um our dates, you know, we're
[7:21] still trying to solidify things for
other events. And um I think if we did
[7:27] it, if we made it part of the job
description, they just check these
[7:30] things. We're not worrying about
standing decks last minute or having
[7:33] people go in and um weedy. I mean, even
though it was weeded the one time, Tony
[7:39] still went in with his weed eater and
weed eat it afterwards. Like uh I'm
[7:43] talking specifically about Witty Park.
So I I think if we get our checklist it
[7:48] may make it a monthly thing. Even if
it's something that they don't have to
[7:50] do every month at least something's
being checked off and they can say I
[7:54] just did this after
>> like a universal seasonal kind of thing.
[7:57] So some things that they do during one
season they don't necessarily have to do
[8:02] it like on
>> well and part of one of the arguments
[8:05] for a street sweeper was the fact that
things would were building up on the
[8:09] streets and going into the drains
causing things with our water. And so if
[8:14] we were able to maintain that monthly in
a way, we wouldn't have to worry about
[8:19] that so much in the main roads.
>> Yeah, I like that idea.
[8:22] » I think they also wanted some kind of
protocol on what streets would be closed
[8:28] and how we would know and who would do
that, who would be responsible for that.
[8:33] Is there a way that we could put
something like that on like the website
[8:38] uh like on our city website when we do
have events like what streets will be
[8:43] closed and so people can also find out
if they go on our website the events
[8:47] we're having the road closures
the you know just in general
[8:53] accessibility and where it it will and
won't happen and the routes around
[8:58] just something like a map basically just
to put you know So even though yes
[9:04] monthly ideally this stuff will be done,
it is nice to have a checklist just for
[9:09] events. Is the power working at Whitty
Park?
[9:13] » Is you know are things weeded? Is Linda
not having to mow around Whitty Park? Do
[9:19] we not have to have volunteers down at
others? Are the signs kept up? Like is
[9:23] something missing? Is there graffiti?
Let's do it a week before. Make sure
[9:27] that everything is in tiptop shape. Go
above and beyond for those events. Well,
[9:32] it might the the only argument I still
have with the monthly is if we find
[9:35] those things, there's still protocol
with the city. If it's something that
[9:38] has to be done, we have to vote on it,
be able to vote on it.
[9:42] » So, like if we do something monthly, if
I mean checking an outlet is as easy as
[9:47] putting up a you know, like a can't
think of the word.
[9:51] » A you know what you're talking about.
>> Yes. Anyway, but you know what I mean,
[9:54] we could do that. Um there's the it's
bit no matter what we do, Linda's going
[10:00] to be moaning. So then we should just
not mess with this and let city council
[10:04] handle it in the job descriptions.
>> I think we still
[10:07] » that because I ran a department for
years and when my boss said this is what
[10:13] we need that was my responsibility
>> write it, have it ready to go, present
[10:19] it to the higherups and they would yay
or nay and then I had something
[10:24] substantial that I could use uh when it
came time for their reviews. Mhm.
[10:30] » So, so
>> I'm going to refer to administration
[10:34] here. Is this something that should be a
city council matter where they because
[10:39] you are creating new job descriptions
that just happens and it's a monthly
[10:43] checklist that would actually fall in
your department of being the boss or do
[10:49] we want as a committee to come up with
something that we as the committee want
[10:53] to
>> Yeah. Can't you as a committee come up
[10:56] with something and then have it added to
it and they can yeah adjust it or add to
[11:02] it or whatnot?
>> So your thoughts as administrator?
[11:08] » It makes up both things. I think the
council does like the idea of having a
[11:11] checklist and a policy that's in place
so we prepared for events or having some
[11:15] timeline on our end so that we know when
an event is happening. Um I know for
[11:20] Sasquatch Festival for example, I got
the formal map of road closures. I think
[11:24] a week and a half before the event. So,
and unfortunately the map that I got was
[11:29] like twice as large as there was
actually. So, I was putting stuff all
[11:33] over the place like well this is the
road closure that was approved like
[11:35] that's not where it's supposed to be.
Okay. So, um in the future, you know,
[11:39] there'll be more detail to go over it
with the applicant to make sure yes,
[11:42] this is actually where you want it to
be. Um 30 days is usually a good
[11:46] benchmark for us to know that something
is coming and we can get things
[11:50] prepared. We can get staff assigned to
be there on the weekend helping.
[11:53] » Okay.
>> So, there used to be an application
[11:56] view.
>> There is. Yeah. So,
[11:58] » just not using them or we are
>> the the we had some problems with
[12:04] a couple of things that lack of
communication or not.
[12:07] » I'm not pointing fingers, but it was
James' responsibility to do the street
[12:10] closures. Just as much.
>> So,
[12:14] » just put them on blast. Okay.
>> I'm calling
[12:17] you out.
>> They're not calling anybody out. So, uh,
[12:22] you would like to have a preparation
checklist that we so that they can be
[12:26] the city council can vote on it just
specifically for events. So, and then
[12:31] you can work on through the city council
the monthly checklist of job
[12:36] descriptions.
>> Yeah. And basically what we're we're
[12:38] doing here is making a recommendation to
the council of things that should be on
[12:41] the checklist so that there can be a
formal policy put in place that says in
[12:45] a lead up to an event if we get this
amount of lead time we can guarantee
[12:49] » these things are done. Okay. So yeah
ladies sorry gentlemen what would you
[12:53] like that to include? Let's make a list.
>> So we have Henderson Park.
[12:57] » Well so the sorry
>> is so I I'm thinking of street signs. So
[13:02] the Henderson Park or not street signs
but welcome to Elgen signs.
[13:07] It's the Pacific Pride.
>> Yeah, it's that way.
[13:11] » But I don't know if it's not ours. Yeah,
>> that's not city.
[13:14] » But we do have the Lions Club.
>> Yeah, it's the Lions Club.
[13:17] » No, it actually doesn't belong to the
Lions Club
[13:19] » in anymore.
>> No, Henderson Park doesn't. They That's
[13:23] the one down by the Stampede Grounds or
the Logard, right? No, it's owned by the
[13:30] fuel thing over in Pendleton. They own
that and it's maintained by them. But we
[13:35] do have a sign though.
>> Okay.
[13:37] » Well, I'm just thinking we need to make
sure our signs are trimmed and mowed. No
[13:41] weeds.
>> So, Nicholas signs
[13:46] » and trimmed and mowed because we do trim
and mow that. Actually, um Oh my gosh,
[13:52] why can't I think of her name? Uh
Jessica's sister,
[13:56] uh Darcy mows that. She maintains that.
Um but I mean there's no reason they
[14:03] can't stop and look at that sign. So,
signs trimmed and mowed. What else we
[14:07] got?
>> I think the streets need to be u well
[14:13] marked like she said a map or something
because uh you know maybe you have
[14:18] different streets shut for different
activities and um that can be confusing
[14:24] for some. So, I think if we do a heads
up with that.
[14:28] » Okay. Um, I do definitely think that the
parks themselves need to be mowed and
[14:33] weeded
[14:36] and maybe leaves if
you know depending on the time of year.
[14:42] Can I suggest like putting something out
to the public too? Like Pride and Elgen
[14:47] or whatever. You're responsible for your
sidewalk and your easements, you know,
[14:52] in the alleyways event coming.
>> Ordinance too though.
[14:56] » And then I was about to say add the
ordinance piece to that. Ordinance
[15:00] officers would like to are going to be
pushing to make sure that your trees are
[15:04] not overhanging to make sure trimmed. We
need the trees trimmed
[15:09] » because I think that the tree trimming
and the weeding along the sidewalk is
[15:13] the homeowner's responsibilities.
>> Um
[15:17] I don't think the weeding on the
sidewalk is
[15:20] » Whose is is that the responsibility?
>> The weeding on the sidewalk
[15:24] » if there's any house.
>> Um yeah, some of it depends on who the
[15:29] owner is. Um
>> we're mainly talking about parks, our
[15:34] parks and our sidewalks.
>> Well, the
[15:37] street
because we have Yeah, we have people
[15:42] using the RV park down at Cedar. We've
got Main Street in use with downtown
[15:47] restaurants and gas station and so that
main road and I would say even highway
[15:51] 204 being the main road, but we also
have to consider like we have sports
[15:56] sendoffs and stuff too. So, I don't know
how detailed we want to get with events.
[16:01] Uh Dollar Dollar General. I was gonna
ask you, Alex, did they ever get their
[16:05] weeds under control?
Fantastic.
[16:08] » It's getting bad again, though.
>> James and someone else went down there
[16:11] and took care of it.
>> Oh, did they?
[16:13] » They went down and we did it. James and
one of the kids went down there and
[16:16] handled it.
>> So, how do we take care of that?
[16:21] » What?
>> Them taking care of their
[16:23] » complain. I think it looks great. The
spring are growing every evening and
[16:26] it's green. I thought it looks great. I
walked down there and I
[16:29] » we have to keep complaining I think in
order for Dollar General from what
[16:34] Thomas said in order for Dollar General
to keep maintaining their facilities. Is
[16:40] that am I correct? That's basically
>> people.
[16:42] » Okay. So, what we have is
>> storm
[16:45] » signs trimmed
around signs trimmed and mowed well
[16:50] marked streets mode the parks mowed and
weedated leaf blow if we need to do that
[16:55] depending on the time
>> vandalism and electrical out that might
[16:59] be
>> freeze trimmed uh blow the sidewalks we
[17:02] all they all have leaf blowers they can
do that
[17:04] » check for vandalism too. Yeah.
Vandalism. Any do we want to say like if
[17:10] something needs maintained to fix
maintain it like we lost some lattice
[17:15] off of the stage it needed to be put
back on like those kind of things. Is
[17:20] that something
[17:24] » the thing? So that that's one of those
things I was talking about because we
[17:28] can't just
>> fix those. It's funding that we have
[17:31] » right but they can at least pick it up
off the ground and
[17:34] » right
>> move it.
[17:37] you know, keep it neat. Yeah. Well
represented.
[17:41] » Can our Can we have ordinance check with
business owners that haven't maintained
[17:47] things like you know
>> there's seeds downtown?
[17:51] » Yeah.
>> I don't want to call them out, but it
[17:53] looks terrible sometimes.
>> The one by the high school.
[17:58] » Oh,
>> yes. There's weeds all over that parking
[18:01] lot down there. Um
>> that parking lot across the street the
[18:05] when you're look when you're looking at
the parking lots for the high school
[18:08] from
>> so
[18:10] » the high school itself the right parking
lot seems to have a lot of
[18:14] » that's the cities
>> that is the city
[18:16] » yes that's needs to have some gravel
filled in there sir
[18:20] » that's that will hopefully come with new
>> new new job descriptions
[18:25] » and I don't think it's maintained
because it's not budgeted and it's not
[18:29] they're just allowing the high school
from my understanding to the park. Yeah.
[18:33] Yeah.
>> We talking about the the parking lot.
[18:35] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's fun. That's actually um
[18:39] that is uh
>> that's what we want to make our future
[18:42] skate park.
>> Yeah. Let's see. So, it's the land
[18:46] itself is residential. So, it's supposed
to be used for housing.
[18:49] » Mhm.
>> It's been used as a parking lot forever.
[18:51] Public works for the county used it and
then we bought it and we've just let it
[18:56] be a public parking lot.
>> Can we make vacation housing? the P or
[18:59] the county used a residential lot for
>> they did.
[19:04] » Yeah. So
>> that's where they kept their
[19:07] » this fun thing called a pre-existing
grandfathered use where I'm going to
[19:11] guess the county had it as a lot before
the 1970s when Oregon's atrocious land
[19:16] use maps were put in place. So because
it was there then it could stay there
[19:20] now still on parking lot. So, the idea
is that when things change hands or
[19:24] there's a disruption at the property,
like something burns down, you have like
[19:28] x amount of time to um
>> put a request in
[19:32] » to uh to keep the same pre-existing
grandfathered use unless
[19:39] um yeah, you have you have a certain
amount of time to maintain the
[19:42] pre-existing grandfathered use. So, like
if there's a house in the business zone
[19:46] and the house burns down within I think
it's 18 months, you can rebuild the
[19:50] house in the business zone. Um, if it's
more than 18 months, then you can't
[19:54] build that house. Even if you got half
the house built, you got to take it down
[19:57] and turn it into
>> So, but that's that's listed as
[19:59] residential. I mean,
>> it's all residential.
[20:01] » So, but we're getting a little off
topic, but I was just saying that's our
[20:04] future. Uh,
>> I know, right? I mean, there's so many
[20:07] things you could do with that. We could
look at the residential
[20:10] over there.
>> Back to this the preparation checklist.
[20:14] Is this just for like where the event is
going to be held or is it are we making
[20:19] it accountable for
>> I think the main roads
[20:23] » the the main
>> coming in and out of town you're going
[20:25] to come down to the park and cool off. I
think making the public involved I think
[20:30] is important too like
>> look these are you know have their town
[20:36] it's all enforcement reminder this is
code enforcement you are required to
[20:41] maintain. So it sounds good in theory,
but getting them to do it in practice as
[20:46] a whole.
>> Yeah. Getting them to do it now to what
[20:50] makes you think they'll do it now?
>> Reminding that code enforcement is
[20:55] » reminded
all the But as the city does more and we
[21:00] start doing more, I think naturally
pride takes over and and things start
[21:04] happening because it what if go ahead?
>> There's a couple routes we can go with
[21:13] this. So I I while I understand all
fronts, I think it is our due diligence
[21:18] to keep reminding them even though we do
because you know I I know understand
[21:22] that's beating a dead horse, but
sometimes you got to beaten it a
[21:26] different way and then
What we can do as a chamber is organize
[21:31] » a volunteer group,
>> volunteer cleanup days.
[21:34] » When I had when I had um when when we
were still working on another committee
[21:40] on some other issues, I had recommended
creating a volunteer group called Elgen
[21:45] Steps Up in order to help try and build
the community and see if people would
[21:50] actually get involved.
>> Well, and that's, you know, that's where
[21:54] again, get the community involved. Um,
that was actually brought up by Cindy
[21:59] during one of our last Sasquatch
meetings. She wanted to organize a group
[22:03] to do a downtown cleanup cuz he used to
do that and we told her no because it
[22:07] was like less than two 3 weeks before
the event. We're like there's no way we
[22:11] can do that but let's consider it in the
future. So maybe that's something we can
[22:15] shake on as a chamber. We can also
remind those downtown businesses to
[22:20] » So I'm okay with the downtown business
but I am not approaching citizens. No,
[22:25] that but that because that is a so I
think that is something we can work on
[22:30] together and if people participate they
don't and if they do they do and then um
[22:35] we were just talking at city council the
other night about
[22:39] » being a little more strict on the code
>> enforcement. Mhm.
[22:42] » So so
>> that carrot and the stick there's the
[22:46] stick of the orphans sky coming and
whacking Yeah. But we've got this guard
[22:49] of the month program now.
>> Yes. And it's working great. Yeah. It is
[22:53] there any meat behind code enforcement?
>> Yes, now there is.
[22:57] » Oh, yeah.
>> We can actually make them pay the fines
[23:01] and stuff.
>> Okay.
[23:02] » Yep.
>> So, you're not approaching them like
[23:04] that like with a stick and fine just
like hey, let's have some pride in the
[23:08] community and then it's almost a little
bit embarrassing like when your
[23:11] neighbor's like, "Hey, you know, it's
code for you to keep that cleaned up."
[23:14] Just a reminder, reminding people you
are responsible for this.
[23:19] » My neighbors don't care. I know
>> I live by a certain area that doesn't
[23:25] » and unfortunately we have a very very
large rental market here where most
[23:29] people rent. There's usually more pride
>> landlords.
[23:33] » So it's landlords. So you get into that
very tricky situation, but you as a
[23:38] citizen could 100% keep posting. Let's
take some pride in our thing. We have
[23:44] this event coming
>> city reminding people. Well, and it's
[23:47] not that they're not going to
>> I'm not asking the chamber to do it.
[23:50] This is a city.
>> Yeah. But I'm just saying we can work
[23:53] together to make this happen.
>> What I have for the checklist is signs
[24:00] trim to mowed, well marked streets,
mowed and weed at our parks. Um leaf
[24:05] blower if we need it, the trees trimmed,
sidewalks blown off. um check for
[24:10] vandalism and ordinance check in with
well businesses and citizens
[24:17] before a big event.
>> Yeah.
[24:20] » Um
so there used to be we talked about this
[24:23] at the chamber a few times about people
using hoses to clean off the sidewalk.
[24:27] They used to do that.
>> They used to do the fire station used to
[24:30] » fire station used to do that and there
was one person that complained. So are
[24:34] they still in business or no? No, they
are not still in business, but I think
[24:39] liability now. I don't think the fire
department would be willing to do that
[24:42] because it is a large liability on their
part.
[24:45] » There's a gentleman that streets day and
night all over town.
[24:48] » I see him.
>> Yeah, we see him out there. Um, what's
[24:51] his name? I know that city.
>> Bob.
[24:54] » No. Um,
[24:59] » Bobby pays him gives him money to do
that.
[25:02] » Bob.
>> So,
[25:04] » it's Bob. It's Bob. It's B.
>> Love it. Is
[25:07] » Yeah. So, he goes around with the little
leaf blower. It's
[25:11] » he out the the
hang out down Mine Street down by the
[25:17] high school.
>> Okay. So, this is for our Yes.
[25:21] » roots. Anybody else have anything they
can think? We can always add to it
[25:25] later.
>> No. Okay.
[25:29] » All right. I'll bring that to council
and say, "Here's what we want to do."
[25:32] » Sounds good. Yeah. There's a spit. The
state of Oregon keeps a database of all
[25:37] county and city courts throughout the
state. You're supposed to say, you know,
[25:41] where's the court located phone number,
email, and who's the person to contact?
[25:45] And for one court somewhere in the
state, all they put down was Gertude.
[25:50] [laughter]
[25:52] » Well, that's cool.
>> Not even a last name. It was just
[25:59] » Gertude and Bob.
>> Aren't they impaired? Ah,
[26:04] » all right. I wish this was better news.
>> What?
[26:07] » Okay.
>> Oh, well, yeah, there's that. So, we did
[26:10] not get the uh streets, sorry, the the
sprinkler grant that I had applied to
[26:16] CIS for intact. They told me they they
denied basically all Eastern Oregon
[26:20] » even though we're in fire and drought.
Cool.
[26:22] » Grant applications. They gave something
to Hermiston like Hermiston needs money.
[26:25] » Good for them.
>> Yeah, but that's not us.
[26:27] » I know her.
Technically, it's in the 8ount
[26:31] definition of Eastern Oregon, but like
>> I'm just going to say it publicly. Good
[26:34] for them. We're in a drought. We could
have used sprinklers, but thank you for
[26:38] ignoring most of Eastern Oregon.
>> Yeah, somebody asked.
[26:42] » Yeah, we don't have like a 60,000 fire
60,000 acre fire near us or anything.
[26:48] » So, we still have a grant coming in from
the Roundhouse Foundation for um uh some
[26:55] fireproofing at the RV park. And the
parks grant is still underway. And I
[27:01] feel like there's another Oh, the marine
board. We applied for a grant with the
[27:05] marine board to
>> Oh, cool. What's that?
[27:08] » The state marine board controls all of
the state waterways in Oregon and they
[27:12] have a a small grant infrastructure
construction. So, because the RV park is
[27:19] a boat launch, there is a grant to pave
the eastern parking lot. So, we have a
[27:24] paid boat launch for safety and
accessibility.
[27:27] » That is so cool.
>> I just I think it is kind of a blessing
[27:30] though that we didn't Sorry, I need to
be a little more patient. I've had a
[27:34] rough day. Um I do think it's kind of a
blessing that we didn't get the water
[27:38] grant
>> for sprinklers. That way we can map out
[27:42] tent areas.
>> We do have time for that
[27:45] » and build a pos I did have an idea. I
talked about it about having like a
[27:50] pergola kind of a outdoor sitting area.
So if we
[27:55] write, you know, map something up, then
we can maybe reapply for sprinklers and
[27:59] maybe they'll be generous and think of
eastern organ
[28:01] » or we can find it elsewhere.
>> Yes.
[28:04] » Um have we started an applica or a grant
for the play structure
[28:11] for down there?
>> No. So, um, the the big hangup with
[28:17] applying for grants at the RV park, it
all comes down to the fact that our man
[28:21] was from the 90s. So, I would like for
there to be a playground, but that is
[28:24] something that comes as part of the
master plan. The
[28:26] » master plan project,
>> all that jazz.
[28:30] » Okay.
>> I really want to get rid of the uh
[28:34] the railroad ties. Those are a pain.
>> We'll get there. We're gonna get there.
[28:40] » I have a question. And I was looking at
some things when you apply for a grant
[28:46] and it says like for um a certain level.
So you can apply for different grants
[28:54] for one project. So like for one just
for to cover it all in rock or whatever
[29:01] for gravel ground or whatever. Then
another grants. This could take years
[29:04] for stuff like this, right? Like
>> yes,
[29:07] » five to 10 years. the nickel and dime
the
[29:10] » unit would ensure a lot of the cookies
are spun in the red sound.
[29:15] » Yeah,
>> we don't like those.
[29:17] » Um,
>> oh, is there any reason why we don't go
[29:20] for like wild horse grant?
>> We usually uh have our influence crew go
[29:25] after that. So like last year they got a
new job.
[29:27] » So they apply through the city.
>> Yeah.
[29:29] » Not as well. They're they're a city
agency. They're not an independent
[29:33] » Gotcha.
>> entity.
[29:37] Love them. They are they are ours.
>> Yep. No, I was just wondering if they
[29:41] had their own thing that they
>> No, they they applied through us.
[29:44] » So, what is regional priorities?
>> All right. The two big grants I wanted
[29:49] to bring up tonight. So, um there are
two two big grant opportunities. One
[29:54] comes up every year two years and it's
called the Oregon Regional Investment
[29:57] Fund and uh the applications just opened
up for that. The other one is called uh
[30:03] they're calling it SDS. Um,
so the RAF is $10 million that anybody
[30:11] can apply for it and that has to be you
have to be like a local government or
[30:14] nonprofit or a tribe in Oregon and
Department of Energy One is similar area
[30:20] Union and Baker County you have to apply
for I think it's a $15 million pot. So
[30:25] the goal is to take a look at what can
we actually apply for and do we want to
[30:30] spend money on these things? Um, do we
want to appro like go about uh adding
[30:36] them to our community? So,
>> first off, the both of these grants I
[30:41] found out were tied to the uh regional
solutions team. So, Oregon's divided up
[30:46] by the governor's office in the
different regions that have um regular
[30:50] meetings where local leaders come
together and talk about problems and
[30:53] figure out solutions. The regional
solutions coordinator is the governor's
[30:57] person in the community. Um, so ours is
based out of Eastern Oregon University.
[31:02] They go all over the place having
meetings and solving problems that
[31:04] create. The regional solutions committee
came up with a group of priorities for
[31:09] Northeast Oregon. And both of these
grants say you need to have it be
[31:13] focused on the regional solutions teams
identified issues.
[31:18] » And what were those?
>> Oh, there's five pages.
[31:21] » Okay. But we do have some things that we
could
[31:24] » Yeah. Well, the one I want to build is
the the James Johnson Center for
[31:28] Entrepreneurship.
>> We'll get to that.
[31:30] » So, so there there's five different h um
uh priority groups. The first one is
[31:35] statewide and statewide the think that
the state thinks we need more housing in
[31:39] Northeast Oregon. I don't know, do we?
Yes, we do.
[31:41] » Yes, we do.
>> Uh locally, infrastructure,
[31:44] » we definitely need that one.
>> Um so, it's industrial and commercial
[31:48] land availability and development,
resilience, impact on infrastructure,
[31:52] supply chain challenges. Mhm.
>> Next one up is community resilience,
[31:56] shared services, food security, uh
nonprofit sector, business development,
[32:00] energy resilience.
>> Because we need a shared storage space
[32:04] for all of our
>> We definitely do.
[32:06] » Well, that's pocket change.
>> I'm just saying we need that.
[32:10] » Um the next one is workforce
development. Um, the focus is on getting
[32:14] individuals prepared to be employees,
encourage more flexibility for
[32:18] employees, support EOU's grant funding
for workforce readiness, uh, and
[32:23] long-term investment in education and
programs for soft skills within high
[32:27] schools.
>> I like that one, too.
[32:28] » Um, some of these are like they have I
think certain people they're planning on
[32:32] having do them like we're not a high
school, but hopefully Elgen High School
[32:36] applies.
>> EOU can take care of itself.
[32:39] » Yes, they can. Uh and last one up is the
stewardship economy regional food and
[32:43] fiber communities awkward
>> economy shaped by the need and
[32:47] responsibility to manage for
sustainability of land and communities
[32:51] highlighting the success of the rural
engagement vitality center that is an EO
[32:55] thing specifically a value stream map of
supply chains in the region encouraging
[33:00] steady supply of supply chain challenges
or the last one development of an
[33:04] entrepreneurship center that addresses
shared services for businesses with the
[33:08] stewardship we come
>> okay So that's the one you want to go
[33:10] for.
>> Well, I have been joking about building
[33:12] the James Center for
>> There's actually several that are good
[33:16] on there.
>> Yeah.
[33:17] » That we could use.
>> But then we could also use all of them
[33:20] for one specific center.
>> That's true.
[33:24] » So seriously,
>> a lot of the stewardship economy thing
[33:27] is for E. It sounds like it's EOU.
>> Yeah. So um they have numbers. I'm gonna
[33:33] pull up the
I'm gonna pull up something else over
[33:38] here real quick. Um,
>> so when is the deadline for these?
[33:45] » Um, they're kind of coming up this fall
to work on. So, we're going to have to
[33:50] figure out real quick what we think is
the best idea. So, this committee will
[33:54] advise the council on what should we
move on. Should we do an
[33:58] entrepreneurship center? Should we look
at commercial property development? all
[34:02] that jazz.
>> I like commercial property development.
[34:05] » Well, we have a lot of land.
>> We have some we have some things. I like
[34:09] that one.
>> Um, and it also includes acquisition.
[34:13] » I like that one, too.
>> Proposed funding tiers for construction
[34:17] or acquisition.
>> Um, workforce is between 300,000 to 2.5
[34:22] million per project. Housing is 1 to 5
million per project. Business
[34:27] development is 300 to 1 million uh
300,000 to 1 million per project.
[34:31] Infrastructure is$1 to5 million per
project.
[34:34] » I like that one.
>> Construction and this is planning
[34:39] feasibility technical assistance
consultants and programs. All sectors
[34:42] can apply for between 100 to 750,000
budget.
[34:46] » So we could we apply for more than one
thing or do we have to just choose one?
[34:50] » Have to choose choose one.
>> So
[34:51] » so but there are two different grants.
>> We could choose two different things and
[34:55] apply through two different areas.
>> Okay. with Carne Park being an income
[35:00] driven thing for the city. I think it
would be huge to really improve that
[35:04] area,
>> right? But we also need to uh create
[35:09] more jobs and more business for our
town. We can't just pour everything
[35:14] » like the construction or acquisition.
>> Yeah.
[35:16] » Not staying there with me.
>> Yeah. We
[35:18] » What do you guys think about the
construction or acquisition?
[35:21] » We have to be an impure. Well, we have
there was one piece of land that I was
[35:27] um looking at that we could possibly do
for that's about
[35:30] » the one you texted me about today.
>> No, that one's a different one. But the
[35:33] four acres was the one we were talking
about last week. Was it last week or the
[35:37] week before?
Industrial.
[35:42] Can't spell. Holy totally don't ask me
how to spell. Do you remember
[35:49] » it's over by the industrial structure
too? So we can be two different brands
[35:53] for two.
>> Yeah,
[35:54] » it's over by the industrial park.
>> This one we could get
[35:59] » or
>> but there was that then there was that
[36:02] one that was 100,000 that was that had
that trailer on it. If it has the
[36:06] trailer on it that's probably means that
there's water, electricity and sewer
[36:10] there. We could also put a developmental
building there or something where we
[36:14] could use it to create jobs or whatever.
>> Is that one zoned residential though?
[36:21] » How is it?
>> I do got to see if I can figure out
[36:24] where it is again.
>> So, we have had an idea about um rail
[36:31] bikes. Oh, and if we did the
construction or acquisition, there is
[36:36] that building down there and it could be
so much more than just rail bikes, but
[36:39] you could
>> house them there. You could do
[36:42] » who owns that building down there.
>> Um the silo, not the silo, the
[36:47] » it's so walking the trail. It's on the
left hand side.
[36:50] » On the left hand side there that would
be eighthoman.
[36:53] » Well, there's like a buggy in there.
Yeah, there's it. It's
[36:57] » Well, my understand
[37:01] that
>> Oh, where's our little
[37:04] » um That's Detroit right here.
>> When we did the
[37:06] » this thing
>> that's owned by the Walawa Union
[37:08] Railroad Authority.
>> Okay.
[37:10] » So, but there's another building on this
side that um where's that other one?
[37:19] » Is that it? That might be No, that's a
house. But when we were doing the
[37:23] opening for that trail with Trail of
Thrill and had like the barbecue and
[37:27] stuff down there, I don't even know how
many times I heard people saying that
[37:30] old building would be so cool if it was
a brewery.
[37:33] » Yeah.
>> Hey, there's another one here.
[37:38] All that stuff.
>> 445. No, we're done.
[37:43] » 425.
>> Mhm.
[37:45] » Let's see. Think we're
>> And it's got it's mobile home. That's on
[37:51] there.
>> Yes.
[37:52] » I've been thinking of no bikes.
>> Yeah.
[37:55] » Or that would be
>> So that one is smack dab in their
[37:58] residential area.
>> Yeah. But could you still turn it into a
[38:02] park or something else? Like a like a
structure where you could use it to rent
[38:06] out for um like a you know like a a hall
or something like a you know what I
[38:12] mean? Bless you if you're going to
sneeze.
[38:16] » No, it's my face.
[38:21] But but that's just what I was thinking
earlier when I saw it because I was
[38:24] looking at
>> all kinds of stuff.
[38:27] » However, there is also um like the old
Elgen TV building.
[38:33] » So, are we talking about someone
with it and there's the lot next to it?
[38:38] Like we could
>> Are you looking to have another hall for
[38:41] employment? I don't understand.
>> Well, we can you can use it for
[38:44] anything. You can use it to um for the
stewardship economy. You can use it like
[38:49] there. You can put a structure on it for
any reason. You can put a structure on
[38:54] it to rent out as like a place for
people to, you know, conduct business or
[39:00] a meeting or something or you can use it
for um someone uh could rent it out for
[39:06] a party or something. You could do all
kinds of things. It's
[39:09] » kind of like how we were thinking about
putting a building down at the RV park.
[39:12] » Mhm.
So the conditional uses permitted in the
[39:16] residential zone are multif family
zonings,
[39:20] hospitals, churches, home occupations,
parks and playgrounds, libraries,
[39:25] museums and art galleries, public
buildings such as fire stations, pump
[39:29] stations, schools and community centers,
neighborhood grocery stores, livestock
[39:32] or farm animals subject to restriction,
and Airbnbs.
[39:36] » Well, we definitely need a playground
for kids. Well,
[39:39] » the uh community center has a
playground. I know, but like scattered
[39:44] throughout
>> having more.
[39:46] » Yeah, cuz there's one, but that's one
for one area of kids.
[39:50] » Well, we're going to put a playground on
the RV park.
[39:53] » Like I don't understand employment. Like
the RV park wasn't of interest because
[39:57] we needed to look at employment for
>> So if we got one of these grants, could
[40:04] we employ somebody at the RV park?
>> No, that's not what they're looking
[40:08] into. They're kind of kind of
>> either like we build stuff or come up
[40:13] with a project that gets completed
>> like
[40:17] » Okay, so we've been talking about that
empty lot at the high school and it's
[40:21] technically zoned residential.
>> We already own it. we wouldn't have to
[40:25] buy it if we built not necessarily a
community center there but like a center
[40:30] where you could ho rent to host meetings
or have birthday parties or let pe you
[40:37] know have uh
what am I thinking of Saturday markets
[40:42] in or
>> something of that nature to boost the
[40:46] economy um
>> place to put vendors when it's smoky
[40:50] » yes EOU could host their type of job
recruitment or you know do fairs like
[40:59] that down there.
>> Do you know I mean not to poo I do know
[41:03] like the job fairs and stuff they like
to have those high school stuff
[41:08] » different I do not well I mean yeah I
was thinking because it was next to the
[41:14] high school.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
[41:16] applying to this grant. Like what would
your argument be? Um as far as like we
[41:20] already have the community center, we
have the Stampeders building a new hall,
[41:24] we have the Graange Hall,
>> um would that be would we have a
[41:28] worthwhile argument on why would we need
more
[41:31] » because this one would be the change?
So I just I think if we went with a
[41:38] construction or acquisition, it would be
much more feasible to like put something
[41:43] that's going to generate jobs and uh
tourism both like the rails
[41:49] » like that.
>> Like that,
[41:51] » you know, like the
>> We do own the end plot
[41:55] by the rail station.
>> Mhm.
[41:58] » If we did rail bikes. Yes. We could put
it right there.
[42:03] » Right. Well, because I've joked about
making it a mini dog park right now.
[42:07] » A mini dog park right there.
>> But that would definitely that would
[42:11] create both business and tourism and
uh you know generate more interest and
[42:19] that would actually be a great location.
>> So what about 48 or
[42:23] » so you know where the train station
>> industrial park is in the parking lot.
[42:28] We own that piece there at the end. So
the school put it as a storefront and
[42:32] stored the bites there right next to
sell it to us
[42:36] » and it was right next to the opera house
that maybe
[42:39] » we could ask if they want to build it
>> or if they want to sell it. I mean the
[42:42] school is also able to apply for these
too. So
[42:45] » yeah the school
>> we could see if the school is interested
[42:47] in doing it is the one that was for
>> are they but aren't they doing don't
[42:52] they have an a building out there
already?
[42:53] » They do.
>> Oh they do. Yeah.
[42:55] » Yeah they do.
>> They've got the same lot.
[42:57] » What? But they don't. They do. But they
don't.
[43:00] » They don't. Right. Okay.
>> What do you mean?
[43:02] » I know they have a floor.
>> And it can't move forward
[43:06] » eventually. Hope. But so there's that. I
say because we like the railike idea. So
[43:14] well,
>> we like the railback idea. So
[43:16] » and it creates jobs. It creates tourism.
And we could put it right there at the
[43:20] end. Like Tiffany said, that's a perfect
location that I think we should try for
[43:24] this construction or acquisition because
we just need the construction.
[43:29] » How profitable is it rail? But I've read
that I love
[43:32] » you should
I think it would break a lot.
[43:36] » You know how many people drive an extra
13 miles to do it?
[43:39] » Yeah.
>> Mhm.
[43:40] » You know what I mean?
>> I did.
[43:41] » I wouldn't want to drive an extra 13
miles. I was wondering if there was
[43:45] » so
how it works is that of course we get we
[43:49] purchase the rail bikes but then for
each rider we pay
[43:53] » Joseph Branch Rura uh a certain amount I
don't know we'll just say $10 is what
[43:59] we're going to say. So each ticket sold
we pay them a portion of it and then we
[44:03] can use it. So obviously days when
they're running the train we can't rent
[44:06] out the rail bikes during those times.
>> We can after they're done
[44:09] » but we can after they're done. And so
this it is just a this one's a no
[44:14] Tiffany and I Tiffany and I have been
like this one.
[44:17] » Just to clarify before we go on is we're
talking about so the
[44:22] the government would buy a plot of land.
The government would build something on
[44:27] that plot of land
>> and then we get grants for the rails.
[44:30] » Somebody gets who's going to own the is
it going to be a city and the city's
[44:35] going to do a real bike like
>> that was my question. Yeah,
[44:38] » I think I don't think the city needs any
more.
[44:42] » No, it doesn't, but it doesn't.
>> Okay, Tiffany and I will buy the rail
[44:46] bikes
>> and rent the space from you.
[44:49] » I love the idea, but I don't think that
the city should open.
[44:52] » No, then
employees. Does it employ though? Not
[44:56] very many, right?
>> Well, it's more than a community center.
[44:59] » It would be a seasonal employment. And I
think they have
[45:03] It depends on if you do assisted or
non-assisted. Mhm. And I'm not sure I I
[45:09] can we can call, but that's not we we
should for the grant.
[45:12] » Incredible to look at tourism and
bringing people to town. So
[45:16] » So I think that's a
>> I like that one.
[45:20] » What's the other one we should apply
for?
[45:21] » I don't know. So I basically there's
there's two grants that you can use for
[45:26] the same prior for for the same pool of
priorities. So
[45:30] » I like this a lot.
>> Um the other one the regional
[45:33] infrastructure fund um pull it up.
[sighs]
[45:43] » What is this for?
>> It's so it's
[45:47] the regional infrastructure fund. Again,
it's the same list of priorities, but
[45:50] it's a different pot of money. So, this
one comes from the legislature. The
[45:53] other one came from the bed.
>> So, this one we could maybe use to buy
[45:59] rail bikes.
>> Well, that's
[46:02] exactly what they're they're going for.
So, could we use this for sidewalks to
[46:07] connect the sidewalk from to the river
to downtown to the other park?
[46:13] » There is a state grant that will cover
that. That's one I've got in mind to
[46:16] work on next year,
>> but this one won't.
[46:18] » Why does
[46:23] » we have to manage for a roundabout?
[laughter]
[46:28] Let's put one construction isn't
for construction
[46:34] in relation to one of the the priorities
there.
[46:37] » Okay.
>> So it can't just be anything you can
[46:39] dream of. It has to be on the list like
the James Johnson Center for
[46:42] entrepreneurship.
[46:45] » So the manage sustainability though.
>> So it's a rural engagement holiday
[46:51] center. Go back to one more.
>> This won't
[46:54] » focus on prepared. No, one more time
please
[46:59] infrastructure. There it is. Industrial
and commercial land availability and
[47:03] development. So there we go. We have the
land there for development and
[47:09] resilience and impact on infrastructure
community shared food. So maybe we could
[47:14] get it to upgrade
our um
[47:20] food bank. Have you seen that thing? Or
build a building for their food bank.
[47:26] » Well, see, even that $2,000 uh property,
you can use that to build a new food
[47:30] bank and have it somewhere where
>> But there is a property direct that's
[47:34] vacant directly in between where the
food bank is and the Elgen TV.
[47:38] » Is that two stories or one?
>> It's twotory.
[47:40] » See, at the bottom be the food bank, the
top be the James.
[47:43] » There you go. [laughter]
But we could build a new one because
[47:47] that one's
>> the church.
[47:50] » No, there's a the church is one more
over.
[47:53] » Okay.
>> It has to match his license plan,
[47:57] » but that's shared services, food
security, like business development.
[48:03] » I think you have a solid plan with the
sidewalks just because like um
[48:08] » I don't think it'll work for this
though.
[48:11] » Well, sidewalks are infrastructure. It's
like one of your main I mean that's your
[48:15] road infrastructure is is very specific.
industrial and commercial land
[48:20] availability and development.
>> Talked about transportation that
[48:24] probably would
>> but so we could do
[48:28] » I was just thinking we have like our
grocery stores and the accessibility
[48:32] crossing the main highway with no
sidewalks on the other side and I don't
[48:37] know I would say that would be like a
good
[48:40] » example or argument but
>> I think we also need to build more jobs
[48:43] to
>> but we could do that one for the
[48:46] community resilience. I think we could
write it for community resilience too
[48:50] for the second one.
>> Invite people to
[48:53] » I think we could do that. I think we
could do that. Both of those.
[48:56] » Community resilience for
>> It' be nice.
[49:00] » Energy resilience.
>> The community resilience for food
[49:04] security. I think we could get that if
we could see who owns that land in
[49:08] between and get the food bank in a
better
[49:12] » building cuz that one's I don't know if
you've been in there to volunteer.
[49:16] » No, I have. Uh that so energy resilience
though is that it like solar other means
[49:24] » probably but they won't
>> because like if if the power goes down
[49:28] here it's down so
>> we would have
[49:34] but do I mean just thinking do we have
any you know we could use that for um uh
[49:41] that argument for why is my brain broken
>> um
[49:46] for warming shelters or centers. Um
cooling when it's too hot.
[49:54] » What about for the city buildings?
>> Solar solar power for the city
[50:00] buildings.
>> Solar power for the RV park.
[50:05] » Oh yeah.
>> So we could have a charging station down
[50:08] there. to build a structure that is for
a pavilion that is roofer
[50:15] » and
you have picnics under there
[50:19] multi-purpose
[laughter]
[50:22] » and like I said charging station another
charging station because we generate
[50:26] income from the other charging station
>> and I've seen a few of those cars by
[50:32] » I like those
>> we got $33 this month
[50:34] » hey we we could make it 66 We could
[laughter]
[50:39] » we could you
>> I think that
[50:43] a charging station at the RV park would
>> be more um
[50:48] » useful
>> visible
[50:50] » and would be used more.
>> I didn't know it was I didn't know we
[50:53] had one already until I started
>> draw people to the RV.
[50:57] » So when do we need to uh
>> tremendous on this go down there right
[51:01] now
>> like tonight soon? that would be ideal.
[51:06] Make sure the council's got an idea, but
>> so um we we need to do this tonight.
[51:13] So, um we can apply for two different
ones uh for we have two different
[51:18] grants. We can apply two different ways.
I really like the construction and
[51:21] acquisition one because putting uh I
think rail bikes in eventually would be
[51:27] a great thing. What do you guys think of
that one?
[51:30] » I think that was great. Can the city do
that though?
[51:33] » No, they can put the building up.
>> They can put the building up for
[51:37] » Can you bring bring that one back up to
the screen that she was talking about?
[51:42] » The construction construction and
acquisition.
[51:44] » Um,
>> how can the city do that?
[51:48] » They can put the building up.
>> How?
[51:49] » Well, yeah.
>> What I want to know.
[51:51] » So, they put the
>> the construction acquisition just has to
[51:55] be tied to one of these existing
[52:00] » priorities.
And what are the other two?
[52:04] » And then the other one would be the
solar power
[52:08] » ship economy
>> or the we could do
[52:13] the food the food security right was one
of them and the infrastructure would be
[52:19] the solar power.
So I like the stewardship economy
[52:24] because then we can just by building the
building if somebody puts in a rail
[52:27] business in there.
>> Yes.
[52:29] » Excuse me. And we can use the floor plan
for um encouraging studies, you know,
[52:36] all of this.
>> Uhuh. You could use that.
[52:38] » You could build a
>> It could be an entrepreneurship center,
[52:41] » encouraging study of supply chain
challenges. We could do meetings there
[52:46] for that,
>> right? Well, in development of an
[52:49] entrepreneurship center that addresses
shared services for businesses within
[52:53] the stewardship economy. So, you can run
your rail bikes out of there. They can
[52:57] do
>> all these other things as well. with
[52:59] rail can also do stuff out, you know.
[53:05] » Uh, so
[53:09] » the um this new one that the feds are
funding is something that just happened
[53:14] and it's a one-time thing. You got to
dig into
[53:18] » the uh the SDS one. So, this is a uh the
the sorry from the feds for Boardman
[53:24] Hemingway. [clears throat]
>> What was that?
[53:27] So the the federal grant portion of this
that is a a sorry from the feds for
[53:33] boardman hemingway going through we're
sorry here's $15 million have added.
[53:38] » So do you think the chances are better
at us going for a food sustainability or
[53:44] solar for
[53:48] » Well I mean we can do both.
>> There's we're applying for for two
[53:52] different
>> and then we can do the construction one
[53:54] with those. Yeah. So, we could construct
>> a building with one of these and for
[54:00] another one we can get solar.
>> So, I say we do solar at the RV park.
[54:04] » Well,
>> so we can solar everywhere
[54:07] in all city properties. Good idea.
>> Yeah, that's what I mean.
[54:10] » Yeah, [laughter] because we can. Even
down at the Joseph branch, we could put
[54:14] solar on top of that pigota there.
>> Could we? Um I don't know. We probably
[54:19] couldn't. Never mind.
>> And when we redo Witty,
[54:22] » we could put solar there, too. I was
>> versus there's power already. I was just
[54:27] thinking we could profit from solar
power for
[54:30] » I don't know if Oregon does that or not
organ does that but I don't know if OTC
[54:33] does that.
>> Well
[54:36] co-op right? Right.
>> So you can still you still get return
[54:39] checks on it. So I'm wondering if OTC
does something like if you have solar
[54:44] power in certain areas does it pay back
the city then?
[54:47] » Only if you if it feeds back into the
grid.
[54:50] » Yeah. If it's not used. But if we can do
that, we can because we can have Here's
[54:54] what I was here was what I was gonna ask
and I stopped myself because it's kind
[54:58] of a stupid idea,
>> but um like could we get it at Could we
[55:04] get it at um
at like the
[55:11] Stampede like all the businesses like
put it at the on the main streets of
[55:16] certain businesses throughout this city
that we support and they support us
[55:20] obviously.
I don't want to put too much favoritism.
[55:23] » Well,
>> it was just like it's just like it was
[55:26] just
>> one of the things with solar on city
[55:29] rooftops and properties is it plays into
your Wi-Fi idea because then you have a
[55:36] way to facilitate facilitate power to
Wi-Fi in public.
[55:41] » And I was just looking at more Wi-Fi
stuff. So, I'm going to I'm going to
[55:44] keep
>> The problem is is if you start putting
[55:47] cityowned solar panels on private
business, I said,
[55:51] » "No, I know." But she was talking about
private business at this at the street
[55:55] front. You don't It doesn't have to be
on the business property. It It's
[55:59] something that they can access and we
still benefit from it.
[56:04] » Yes.
>> To bring up the Sorry, it's
[56:07] » so your your street front thing just
reminded me of that. We don't really
[56:11] have a pickups. We do, but we don't have
a bus stop area for the community
[56:15] connections.
>> No, we don't. You know, the only place
[56:19] that they used to pick up
>> don't really come here.
[56:22] » They do.
>> I said they don't really.
[56:24] » Yeah, they they go to Chevron.
>> They should.
[56:28] » But if there was if we do
the stewardship economy building at the
[56:34] edge of the railroad station, there's a
place for them to pick people up and
[56:38] drop them off.
>> There you go.
[56:41] something that you could play I don't
know if you could play off of it. I'm
[56:44] just like trying to think of like making
sure that you stand out for different
[56:47] things.
>> Um the road shut down here all the time.
[56:50] Like if you could play off of something
like that for your solar power or for
[56:54] any of your projects like you know more
parking space. You're going to have this
[56:58] » railroad bike and there's going to be a
parking space because we have such we
[57:02] don't have the infrastructure to support
all the vehicles and trucks that end up
[57:06] here when we have the road closures and
it's we're stuck. You can't go anywhere.
[57:12] » What road closures are you talking
about?
[57:15] » Yeah. Anytime there's a closure,
everything's closed down and we get a
[57:18] ton of traffic, fires, car accident
things to play off of these.
[57:24] » Okay.
>> Yeah. I like the stewardship economy one
[57:27] if we build a building for that. Mhm.
And then the food bank one
[57:32] » and it shows
>> the other one that because that one has
[57:35] the
>> and the Wi-Fi uh so or the energy one on
[57:40] it too, right?
>> Yeah, that was the other one. So this
[57:42] economy
>> combine them and build a building at the
[57:45] end of that space. Then we can have a
warming center and then we can have the
[57:49] food bank go over there.
>> A cooling center too.
[57:51] » A cooling center.
>> It could be our own little community
[57:55] connection.
like to see for a park.
[57:58] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[58:01] » Space to see
>> like to see a little water for her kids.
[58:05] » Okay. So, what was the other one called?
So, we got
[58:09] » energy resilience.
>> Energy res. Well, what was that? You
[58:12] said the big heading for that one.
[58:17] » People get all
there is. Community resilience.
[58:22] » Community resilience. Those are the two.
Okay. I'm sure there's a billion more
[58:27] things. Let's go.
>> So, the community resilience one for
[58:31] shared services,
right?
[58:34] » Yep.
>> Food security shared services.
[58:36] » The other one was
>> nonprofit sector business development,
[58:39] which would be the food bank,
>> right?
[58:42] » The other one we were just on that slide
and then you said we could do
[58:46] construction grants for the both of
these
[58:50] or just the one
>> for both. So, a construction could go
[58:53] towards building solar everywhere and
another construction could go toward
[58:57] building a building.
>> Perfect.
[59:00] » And then, um, but eventually, can we get
a park where we could put a splash pad
[59:04] for kids?
>> I'd say we make that part of the RV
[59:07] park.
>> That would be really good. I I think I
[59:10] really like that.
>> The insurance on something of that might
[59:15] be
>> Oh, you have is coming up.
[59:19] » Joseph has one. L Grand has one.
>> Thank you.
[59:22] » Union's building one
>> all over central. Every small town
[59:24] » and our river gets gross by this time of
year.
[59:27] » Yeah.
>> Yes, it does.
[59:29] » It's pretty gross.
>> It's not even now
[59:32] » gets slimy.
>> No, there's a lot.
[59:35] » Can we put a splash pad?
>> Can we?
[59:38] » All right.
[59:44] » Oh, yeah. I made a map of all city
properties like the properties the city
[59:49] actually owns. so I can put it on
screen.
[59:51] » Just show you like what what are we
actually working with here?
[59:58] » Hopefully it doesn't freeze my computer.
[1:00:08] » You could also do a solar char or a car
charger at the library with solar.
[1:00:13] » Oh, yeah.
>> Why does the Wi-Fi get shut off at
[1:00:15] night?
>> I'm not sure. where
[1:00:19] » probably for security people.
>> Yeah, for security
[1:00:24] » because it's public.
>> I don't want
[1:00:26] » Yeah.
>> Malifactors
[1:00:29] in my system.
[1:00:33] » City Hall is just fine.
[1:00:38] Just hoping somebody would laugh. Dark
humor. That's how I get through it.
[1:00:43] » They're like, "Hack the system."
>> So, we actually had a bunch of land out
[1:00:48] here. That's basically unusable. That's
where the hay fields are.
[1:00:51] » Swamp, the lagoon. That's You can't
really do much with that. So, we do what
[1:00:57] we can. Somebody sells hay on that
field. That's lovely.
[1:01:01] » Okay, let's get a little further into
town.
[1:01:04] » So, um over here, we own the pocket park
and I guess we Oh, that's the Just
[1:01:12] Branch Trail City section.
>> That's the Elgen section. I don't think
[1:01:18] that's actually
>> right.
[1:01:22] » So, it's the edge across the street from
the house that I was talking about.
[1:01:28] » Oh, yeah. So, sorry, this thing's
>> Wait, we own in between the Mormon
[1:01:34] church and that house.
>> Yeah, there's like a a utility thing
[1:01:38] that's like there's a bunch of like
submers and stuff. You can't really
[1:01:42] build on it. I think it's technically a
right of way that just right circles in.
[1:01:46] So we have a couple spots like that
around 10.
[1:01:49] » So you can't do anything with that other
than what it's currently used for. So
[1:01:52] it's going to be grass between now and
the end of time.
[1:01:56] » So just below the words the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I was
[1:02:00] I thought that was our property.
>> No.
[1:02:02] » Okay, never mind then.
>> Sorry.
[1:02:04] Um
>> that's where I was thinking of putting
[1:02:08] everything.
>> Oh god.
[1:02:11] So, who doesn't own the trail? Union
Railroad Authority. Yeah.
[1:02:17] » Elgen City Hall. Well, I don't think
that's actually City Hall.
[1:02:21] » Oh, that's north.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:24] » I don't know. That's weird. I don't
know. That's a ghost, but that's not
[1:02:28] really city hall,
>> in case you were wondering. Um, let's go
[1:02:32] back up. But Albany, so that little
thing, that's actually ours.
[1:02:39] What is
>> the little perk across from the thrifty
[1:02:43] post?
>> There's a little bench. There's a kiosk
[1:02:46] that's faded. One of the school like
welcome to Elden Science.
[1:02:52] » Was that the one that um the city
gave a portion of it to the land owner?
[1:02:58] Remember last year?
>> I don't know if maintaining it
[1:03:02] » where
>> that little spot right over there.
[1:03:05] Remember? Um, am I right in the camp?
>> There was a a right of way that was like
[1:03:12] » remember didn't it was
>> So that was that was a a vacate of a
[1:03:16] right of way.
So the streets used to be a little
[1:03:20] different back there. There was still
like legally a street going through this
[1:03:23] person's property. So we vacated it. So
there's now no longer a street.
[1:03:28] » Yeah.
>> And then FBLA used to maintain Lion's
[1:03:31] Park.
>> But there is a street because there's a
[1:03:33] house beyond there. it. It's not a
street anymore.
[1:03:36] » Oh, gotcha.
>> Yeah. The right way is what you
[1:03:39] » Oh, so further down.
>> Yeah. So, there's another well over
[1:03:43] yonder.
>> Uh there's Woody Park. Um there's two
[1:03:48] parking lot areas. So, we own the one in
between um
[1:03:54] » station and the other one. And then this
one we um
[1:04:01] » That's the one we just paid.
>> That's the one we just paid. Yeah. So,
[1:04:05] um, well, we only we own the back kind
of area. We don't the own the middle
[1:04:09] one.
>> The middle one is when they had the
[1:04:11] owner of the building of the US Postal
Service.
[1:04:15] » Yeah. So, um, we own the parking lot
area,
[1:04:20] » um,
>> Yeah. So, we could put a rail thing
[1:04:23] there,
>> but that would block all of our
[1:04:29] » Yeah, I think you'd have a problem
putting a a functional building in that
[1:04:33] space
that goes on in that parking lot.
[1:04:37] » All right. Yeah, I know. I have to look
at the security camera footage all the
[1:04:40] time.
>> Where else do we own
[1:04:45] » by the high school?
>> We do own by the high school. That's our
[1:04:50] » Well, it is acquisition.
>> Um, yeah. So, Clarence Woody Park, we
[1:04:56] own that little bitty strip of land
right there. Um, we own the RV park
[1:05:01] outright,
>> so that's good.
[1:05:04] » The fire department owns the green side.
>> We used to own that. So, we traded that
[1:05:09] for the parking lot for a dollar.
>> Oh, yeah. She means the new one.
[1:05:15] » The what?
>> Right. You're talking about the new fire
[1:05:17] department.
>> It's a grand silo. It
[1:05:19] » is now.
>> I'm Yeah, the grand
[1:05:20] » I do.
>> Yeah. Who owns the grain silo?
[1:05:23] » The fire department.
>> Do they own it now?
[1:05:25] » They own it.
>> Don't you Why?
[1:05:30] » They use it for training. Okay. This the
parking lot.
[1:05:34] » There we go. School parking lot.
>> That's ours.
[1:05:38] » Perfect for skate park.
>> Oh, is that the whole parking lot? I
[1:05:41] thought it was just a section on the
>> whole thing. We don't owe the left side
[1:05:45] of the street. We just own the right
side.
[1:05:47] » What about that little city lot?
>> So, that is technically a right of way.
[1:05:51] Okay.
>> Where that where the the it's
[1:05:53] technically a road that goes in there,
>> but that is definitely something that is
[1:05:56] up for grabs because there's nothing in
there.
[1:05:59] » What about
>> there's no weird sewer main or anything
[1:06:01] else.
>> Excellent.
[1:06:02] » What about across from the library?
There's a little yellow dot up there,
[1:06:06] too.
>> That is the same one of those. There's
[1:06:07] like a giant sewer man right underneath
it and can't really use it for anything.
[1:06:11] » But before that, where's that at?
from the baseball fields
[1:06:17] » the at the high school the high school
baseball field.
[1:06:20] » Can you show them the four acres that
possibly could be a something?
[1:06:25] » So that's the one that's right across
the street from a street. Here we go.
[1:06:29] » This thing went a little too
>> Are you looking for aliens?
[1:06:32] » Literal.
>> Yes. I'm looking for
[1:06:34] » looks like
>> is that the foreclosed up?
[1:06:38] » No, the four acres.
>> No, I don't think it was foreclosed on.
[1:06:42] Wait, which is it? Right.
>> It was owned by the school.
[1:06:45] » Oh,
or it is owned by the school.
[1:06:50] » Yes.
>> Oh, wait.
[1:06:53] » On the other side of the street. School.
>> No.
[1:06:57] » No. It's on the other side of the street
from us. So, the city owned it. The city
[1:07:00] sold it to somebody and somebody sold it
to the school. I know the school owns
[1:07:06] it.
>> Where's the school's new building going?
[1:07:12] their new um angle.
[laughter]
[1:07:16] » Where are
part of it? Right there.
[1:07:19] » It went crazy
>> where you just were at.
[1:07:21] » Definitely went for a while.
>> It's over.
[1:07:25] » I didn't tell you to do it.
Right. So, there's
[1:07:32] um
>> right there, isn't it?
[1:07:37] » What are we talking about? That
>> No, the four acres.
[1:07:41] » Yeah. Okay. The four acres is the one
that's down here.
[1:07:44] » Yeah.
>> It's like in between the baseball field
[1:07:46] and the
>> airplane
[1:07:50] » thing.
>> The hanger.
[1:07:52] » Yeah, that was supposed to be firearms
manufacturer.
[1:07:56] » But I see that be a perfect idea because
it's close to city hall. You can have a
[1:08:01] lot of the hubs there right across the
street from you. You can have like food
[1:08:05] trucks coming in. You could do all kinds
of stuff. They do that kind of stuff in
[1:08:10] bed where my kid lives, too. They've got
a freaking uh a vet veterinary hospital,
[1:08:16] like a specialty one that has like a a
food truck area and all kinds of weird
[1:08:21] stuff around it.
>> Or does that not show you?
[1:08:26] » No, I it's not ours. So, I didn't put a
dot on it.
[1:08:30] » If you go to map.net, net.
>> Oh, people are going to re
[1:08:34] » you can find text less easily, didn't
we?
[1:08:36] » Because if even if we even if we get a
grant for it, we need to develop and
[1:08:43] work on established things that we
already have because a lot of people
[1:08:46] will be like, why didn't you use it for
this? Why didn't you include this? Why
[1:08:49] didn't you do that? And if we already
have a plot that we can work on, which
[1:08:53] it looks like we have two possible, like
one is smaller, one is bigger. If we
[1:08:58] worked on those and proved that, you
know, we did this for the community,
[1:09:02] then buying something bigger in the
future, I think would be more plausible.
[1:09:05] But I really think it we would get a lot
of negative feedback if we buy
[1:09:10] » 4 acres.
>> Yeah. Especially if the dump isn't open
[1:09:13] on
>> I don't understand how fired it because
[1:09:16] there's
>> there's specific rules
[1:09:20] » to buy that land.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:23] » Depends. So because that land is owned
by the school district, um governments
[1:09:27] don't have the same procurement
requirements with each other. So we can
[1:09:30] just in and out. Here you go. Here you
go. Great.
[1:09:33] » How much is that thing asked? It's
asking for
[1:09:36] » I don't know that it's for sale. It kind
of
[1:09:39] » we can look on if I I don't know what
the lot is, but online the the sale was
[1:09:44] listed.
>> So what all what kind of I know that
[1:09:47] we're kind of cramp quarters here at
city hall with our shop and stuff. Our
[1:09:51] shops on this property, right?
>> Yes. So, is there any wiggle room for
[1:09:56] anything over here
>> like on
[1:09:59] » on where we're sitting like next to
where we're sitting in between?
[1:10:04] » So, the the property line just up and
right here and not far beyond where the
[1:10:13] city is. This whole area in the middle
is owned by a private business.
[1:10:19] » And what do they do? Nothing. Is that
private business in this area?
[1:10:24] » Uh it's it's uh Bob Os and Dennis Cross
is their holding company.
[1:10:29] » Oh.
>> Owns it to North County Investments.
[1:10:32] Yeah. So they that business owns that
plot of land in between city hall and
[1:10:36] the community center
>> and it's just theirs to have or they
[1:10:38] ever wanted to sell it or anything.
>> Well, they've they owned all of this.
[1:10:41] Yeah. Yeah.
>> The whole thing once upon a time.
[1:10:43] » Okay.
>> So
[1:10:44] » I think originally it was the access to
their
[1:10:47] » storage unit. No, I was just curious if
how that all went down since the
[1:10:51] » Okay. Well, we went an hour and 15
minutes and moved. Not at all.
[1:10:58] » Well, I think we we have some ideas.
>> Acres for sale.
[1:11:02] » No,
>> it's not for sale.
[1:11:03] » Oh, cuz I was going to I know who just I
was just like mind blown for a second
[1:11:08] just Okay. Okay. No, I do like the idea
of putting solar on city properties,
[1:11:12] » including the RV park or building a
structure at the RV park with solar on
[1:11:16] it so we could put stuff underneath it
>> and his flash path.
[1:11:19] » Um, and city hall and
>> and then city hall down at
[1:11:24] » the parks.
>> Mhm.
[1:11:25] » Um,
>> the two
[1:11:26] » So that would be the steward or
community resilience.
[1:11:30] » Yes. So I say we go with those two that
we
[1:11:32] » I like those two. Okay.
the construction for the the stewardship
[1:11:38] in economy and community for solar power
and food sustainability.
[1:11:43] » Do we need to come up with a plan for
these before we apply for them?
[1:11:46] » No, I've basically got it. We'll put
together a plan. I'll work with our
[1:11:50] grant writer.
>> Does that have to go before the city
[1:11:52] council before we do this?
>> I will want to bring it up to the city
[1:11:55] council so I'm not just spinning my
wheels. I don't want to go, "Hey guys,
[1:11:58] guess what we got money for?" Everybody
goes, "What are you talking about?"
[1:12:02] Well, not only that, but it needs to it
needs to go by legal first because I
[1:12:05] think we need to be very careful about
>> doing businesses on our lands.
[1:12:12] » Well, I'm not
>> No, this is solar power.
[1:12:14] » The solar power, right?
>> Oh, if we do like a real bike business
[1:12:19] is going to be kind of the
>> All right. Um,
[1:12:23] » yeah, that's the
>> Yeah, if we could have a a real bike
[1:12:26] business would be pretty fun for Tim.
Um, yeah, there, yeah, all sorts of
[1:12:31] things you have to think about if you're
going to lease space to a for-profit
[1:12:35] enterprise.
I'd have to see if that is within the
[1:12:38] the scope of the government wants a
building that the private sector can
[1:12:42] use.
>> Yeah.
[1:12:44] » So, the little lot that was across from
the baseball field,
[1:12:51] » sorry,
>> pretty small or
[1:12:56] » drooling now. Yeah, the one across from
the
[1:12:58] » It hasn't progressed that far yet.
>> Are you all right?
[1:13:02] » I'll have to ask Ruth about
It's probably going to be like this now
[1:13:07] for the rest of my life. So,
>> I'm sorry.
[1:13:09] » Mystery virus fixing.
>> Um, but the little lot that was kind of
[1:13:13] across from the baseball fields if we
were to build like a thing for the
[1:13:16] nonprofit sector for meeting and stuff
like kind of talked about.
[1:13:21] » Wow, it did it again.
>> That little tiny one right up to the
[1:13:24] left there. See the little dot to the
left?
[1:13:27] Not that one. Next one.
>> Keep going. That one.
[1:13:29] » That one.
>> Yes.
[1:13:30] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. We can do whatever we
want with that.
[1:13:32] » Okay. Well, let's plan on that one.
>> Because I know that with city council,
[1:13:36] we were thinking about the lot by the
>> school. And
[1:13:41] » what are we talking about for though
specifically?
[1:13:43] » We were talking about like the nonprofit
sector part of it with like building a a
[1:13:48] community like
where we were talking about a business
[1:13:53] in there.
>> Right. That's what I was talking about.
[1:13:55] » Yeah. When it comes to this money, I
believe we could both buy a piece of
[1:13:59] property and build a building with the
same thing without
[1:14:04] » property.
>> I like the space in between like
[1:14:08] » it's also should be requiring
>> we got to think about
[1:14:12] » that's not
>> No, it's for it's No, but it's
[1:14:16] » the uses of it. So for because it's a
residential zone.
[1:14:20] » Oh, that's residential.
>> Yeah. Oh,
[1:14:23] » but we could find something else because
like on our main street where the food
[1:14:27] bank is, there is that lot in between
there.
[1:14:29] » So, like that would be
[1:14:33] » buy the empty lot and put a building in
there.
[1:14:35] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. And that would work cuz it's
[1:14:38] downtown. It's zoned commercial. Let's
Let's try that.
[1:14:42] » I like this. You like that?
>> The city will be a tax on something.
[1:14:46] » Yeah.
>> I'm sorry.
[1:14:48] » Which ones? I say over here, some of
those lots have never been sold and
[1:14:53] those are 30 years or more old.
>> We have to be careful about buying more.
[1:14:58] We already have land that we can't
>> They're all sold. We don't have any more
[1:15:03] lots over there.
>> I think there's still one, isn't there?
[1:15:06] » Well, the new private owners who bought
them have have sold. They they've
[1:15:10] changed changed hands a few times.
>> So,
[1:15:13] » but this the city doesn't own anymore,
right?
[1:15:15] » We don't own any of the things in the
industrial park. They're not doing
[1:15:18] anything either. I mean
>> Yeah. But they're not We don't own them.
[1:15:20] So that's not on the city. That's on the
new owners.
[1:15:24] » Yeah.
>> Unfortunately, the way it was done was
[1:15:26] » with an industrial park. There's a lot
you're supposed to do to actually like
[1:15:30] make it an industrial park and some
industry got put in there and summed it
[1:15:34] up. So,
>> and it was cheap. $10,000 for the law.
[1:15:39] So cheap.
>> All right. Is there any advice you would
[1:15:44] like to give me on what to do
or do we think we're spiced over here
[1:15:51] and can
>> I think
[1:15:52] » bring it to the city council that we
want uh
[1:15:56] » some solar power and a James Johnson
Center for Entrepreneurship.
[1:16:00] » All right.
>> You got to name it after the same plate
[1:16:03] on his truck. Big
>> gym center.
[1:16:08] See, that's what we have. It's
>> got to be big gym.
[1:16:11] » The big gym center. the big
>> if there is vandalism. It was on his
[1:16:15] mother-in-law
[laughter]
[1:16:20] » have the slogo be step into a slim J.
>> That has a lot of publicity. [laughter]
[1:16:28] » This might say what kind of
entrepreneurship. We could teach people
[1:16:32] how to vandalize.
>> There you go. There you go. Yeah.
[1:16:35] » Yeah. I might be able to bring some
people from the uh corrections
[1:16:39] department in New Mexico.
>> Hey, there you go. give us some ideas.
[1:16:43] » All right. Well,
[clears throat]
[1:16:48] I make a motion we adjourn.
>> Okay.
[1:16:50] » I second.
[1:16:54] » All in favor?
>> I
[1:16:58] the next meeting date
>> last
[1:17:02] » last Monday of the month.
>> Yeah. Hey, since um which would be the
[1:17:07] 28th, right? September 28th.
>> I might be remote.
[1:17:12] » Yes, you will.
>> Oh, you're gone.
[1:17:14] » Since Labor Day is when the safety
committee would meet,
[1:17:19] » otherwise they're just missing that
month.
[1:17:24] » Thank you.
[1:17:29] » All right.
[1:17:34] Great. Dear him.