[0:21] I'd like to call to order the board of
trustees regular meeting for Tuesday, o
[0:26] August 25th, 2026 at 7 am.
>> Michelle, can I get a roll call, please?
[0:32] » Mayor Turnis
>> here.
[0:34] » Mayor Prom Hutchkins
>> here. Trusty Einspark
[0:37] » here.
>> Trusty Schroeder
[0:38] » here.
>> Trusty Gaither
[0:39] » here.
>> Trusty Connley
[0:41] » here.
>> If you all rise to say the pledge of
[0:45] allegiance with me.
[1:15] Next up is unscheduled public comment.
Um, this would be for
[1:21] anything other than the matter that has
a public hearing this evening. Um, if
[1:28] there's anything else that someone would
like to get up to talk about, you will
[1:34] have five minutes
um to speak. When you come to the
[1:40] podium, please make sure the microphone
is on and that you state your first and
[1:45] last name and your address and spell
your last name for the record. I have
[1:50] one person that signed up for
unscheduled public comment. Jace.
[2:03] » Uh, Jace Wick, uh, 490 East Elm Street,
uh, W I C HT.
[2:16] Okay, so
I'm back again.
[2:22] Thank you for uh thank you for uh
listening to my concerns about the main
[2:28] street uh stuff and our ability to get
into our apartments. That hearing that
[2:36] uh made me really grateful and seeing
that uh a couple days ago that you
[2:41] actually listened
was very nice. But uh I again have
[2:47] something to complain about.
I it's the uh it's the uh I don't know
[2:54] the actual name for it, but like the
little stage area behind our apartments
[2:58] uh where like Brew Fest, the the market,
the Friday night markets or whatever
[3:04] where that those are all taking place.
Uh it's just quite frankly
[3:10] way too loud. It's it's uh it is almost
unbearable during when these events are
[3:19] happening and and it's like I don't want
these things to go away per se. I mean I
[3:26] feel like they can there are viable
things in our community, right? But it's
[3:32] an issue of I can't people shouldn't be
forced to deal with this every single
[3:37] week. you know, I I uh people have
issues where they can't, you know,
[3:44] handle it. Like I have autism, CPTTSD. I
can't handle these loud concerts going
[3:50] on every single week without fail. And
it's like I know they're all pretty much
[3:56] over now, but I know there's going to be
more events, more things happening. And
[4:01] it's like, how am I supposed to, you
know, live in the apartment that me and
[4:06] my girlfriend pay for when when every
single week without fail, I'm going to
[4:11] have this loud event always
showing up and there and it feels like I
[4:18] can't do anything about it but leave the
apartment that we are paying for. And
[4:22] it's like why why should I? I mean it's
a level of
[4:30] I you know it's like again I don't want
these to go away per se but I think it
[4:35] should be taken into consideration that
we need to uh have them at a lesser
[4:42] amount like every other week uh could
work month you know just not where it's
[4:49] happening every single week without fail
I mean how uh Uh last week we had the
[4:56] both the car show and the brew fest that
were where like the car show was on Main
[5:02] Street and the the Brew Fest was back
there. So it's like back toback days.
[5:07] I just had to just sit in my apartment
while while
[5:12] everything was being so loud and
concentrated into our apartments because
[5:18] I mean where else is the noise supposed
to go?
[5:22] You know, it's not fair to us that we
are because, you know, I think, you
[5:28] know, if this was a different city or
whatever, a different, you know, in a
[5:32] bigger city or whatever, I don't have
the room to complain. If this was
[5:34] Denver, this was Aurora, this was
Colorado Springs, I wouldn't have the
[5:38] ability to complain about this because,
you know, that's kind of what you expect
[5:42] from those cities. If you move into
downtown Denver, downtown Aurora,
[5:46] downtown Colorado Springs, and you're
bitching about noise, why are you there?
[5:50] But here where I didn't expect th this
to happen, it's annoying because
[5:57] inherently
when we moved in here, this wasn't
[6:01] something we were expecting. And if we
this was something that we were
[6:05] expecting I think we would have looked
into different areas like Denver like
[6:09] Aurora like Colorado Springs because you
know what's the point of moving out out
[6:15] here somewhere where it's inherently
very close-knit very you know quiet just
[6:21] to just for the [ __ ] just for like uh
just for a music act to come in every
[6:28] single week and just make it as loud as
Denver, Aurora, Colorado Springs, etc.,
[6:35] etc.,
you know, like why would I like why as a
[6:41] person would I move here if if that was
constantly happening? And like I have
[6:47] recorded videos of of times where I just
had to leave the house cuz it got too
[6:52] much. And uh I could like walk all the
way up to almost the graveyard, you
[6:58] know, the cemetery, and you could still
hear the band playing. And I don't think
[7:03] that's acceptable. I don't think I don't
think that should be acceptable for the
[7:09] for the town we are in to have that kind
of noise.
[7:21] That is all.
>> Thank you, Jace.
[7:31] Was there anyone else who would like to
speak during this unscheduled public
[7:37] comment?
[7:46] Paul Shoreskov, town of Elizabeth
resident.
[7:50] After the last board meeting
when uh
[7:55] the board of trustees actually turned
down a request for the high density
[8:00] housing on Banner Street.
The residents of Pine and Maine and
[8:07] Banner Street were overjoyed. You should
have seen them dancing in the streets.
[8:12] Of course, the question they asked next
was, "Well, what's next?
[8:16] What are they going to do?"
And I couldn't tell, couldn't answer
[8:21] that. I just said, "Well, they'll
probably let staff make the decision."
[8:27] And so my question to you, and their
question is to you, is
[8:32] how come you don't tell the staff what
you would like to see done with that
[8:36] property?
[8:41] Because
if you just wait for town staff to
[8:46] decide what to do, they'll provide you
with a a plan that you may not agree
[8:52] with either.
So they're saying,
[8:56] "Well, there's only two houses on the
block to the south. There's only two
[9:00] houses on the block to the east. There's
only two houses on the block to the
[9:05] north. How come they just don't copy
that?"
[9:09] I couldn't answer that,
but that's what they expect of you.
[9:16] Also, I got another question.
[9:22] I had a resident tell me that, well, the
code enforcement officer is going to his
[9:27] property and telling him he's got to mow
the city property between his fence line
[9:34] and the pavement.
And when he told them that it wasn't his
[9:40] property, that it was city property, the
code enforcement officer told him, "Yes,
[9:45] but it's your responsibility to take
care of it."
[9:49] Well, if that's true, how come the city
property along Main Street where the
[9:56] thistles are 6 feet tall? How come
they're not serving the mayor with a
[10:02] summons
to go to court over weed ordinance?
[10:11] She also told him that the judge
is demanding that she bring these
[10:20] properties into compliance.
Now, if the judge is going around town
[10:25] looking at properties
[10:30] and determining which properties need to
be brought into compliance,
[10:34] mind you, city property, adjoining
the private property.
[10:41] Well, I'd say he's overstepping his
bounds. And I would think that you would
[10:45] investigate and find out whether or not
the judge is actually doing this or
[10:50] perhaps it's the code enforcement
officer.
[10:57] Thank you.
[11:01] Thank you, Paul.
Is there anyone else that wishes to
[11:05] speak during unscheduled public comment?
[11:10] Okay, then we'll move on to agenda
changes.
[11:15] Chris, do you have any agenda changes?
>> There are none. Thank you.
[11:21] » Board, do did you have any agenda
changes?
[11:26] » No agenda changes. Uh therefore, the
agenda is set. Next up is our consent
[11:32] agenda. The minutes of the regular
meeting of August 11th, 2026.
[11:37] minutes of the special meeting of August
19th, 2026
[11:43] and the James Distilling Company LLC
temporary salesroom license. Are there
[11:49] any questions, comments, or corrections?
I know I have couple corrections in the
[11:58] minutes. Um
[12:03] um spellings of spelling of names
>> the um August 11th meetings.
[12:14] Um
page three of the minutes under public
[12:19] on the public hearing. Um
the last name of Turnis was spelled with
[12:26] two S's and should only be one. Um,
on number seven, the vote on that same
[12:35] page, Trustee Schroeder's name was
spelled wrong both for ordinance 2611
[12:42] and 2612.
And then
[12:46] trusteeio's
name, last name was spelled wrong on um
[12:51] page four of the minutes on the last
item
[12:55] under um
uh
[13:01] on the on your uh staff report.
Otherwise, everything was good. Did
[13:09] anybody else have any comments,
questions, or corrections?
[13:15] to the minutes or questions on the
distilling company.
[13:24] Okay, then I'll entertain a motion.
>> Put forth a motion to approve the
[13:28] consent agenda.
>> Second.
[13:32] Have a motion and a second to approve
the consent agenda. All those in favor,
[13:37] please say I. I.
>> I. All those opposed, please say nay.
[13:41] That motion passes unanimously.
Up next is a presentation,
[13:46] historic clock unveiling. Diana,
[13:58] good evening, mayor, mayor prom, and
trustees. Um, it's my honor tonight to
[14:03] present a clock to the board of trustees
from the family of Donald Shriner. Uh,
[14:09] one of the things that I love about my
job, um, working with Alex Kramer in the
[14:14] community development department is that
we get to get involved with the history
[14:18] of the town of Elizabeth. It's very rich
and our historic advisory board has been
[14:24] able to dig deep into the facts of the
the buildings and the people. And one of
[14:32] the things that we implemented a couple
years ago, historic advisory board, I
[14:37] add we to that, but it's uh the oral
history program. And through that, we've
[14:43] been able to get local residents to
share their stories and their history.
[14:49] Through part of that, one of our
historic advisory board members, Bob
[14:53] Rasmmanson, had a conversation with Lucy
Hoffines, who knows a lot about the
[14:58] history of our town. And through that
conversation, it was revealed that the
[15:03] depot clock from the original railroad
depot in the town of Elizabeth still
[15:09] existed with the family of Donald
Shriner.
[15:12] So through uh a period over the last
several months, we were able to um
[15:18] locate that clock and the family has
graciously donated it back to the town
[15:23] of Elizabeth. It's hanging today over
your shoulder. And what I would like to
[15:29] do is read the wording on the plaque so
that it's into our record tonight and
[15:34] then introduce to you a member of that
family.
[15:39] So the Elizabeth Depot clock is believed
to have served as the official station
[15:44] clock in the Elizabeth Railroad depot.
This historic time piece dates to the
[15:49] late 1800s and reflects the arrival of
rail service to Elizabeth in 1882.
[15:56] For more than 50 years, it marked the
time for railroad employees, travelers,
[16:01] and the growing community.
Displaying the word standard time, the
[16:06] clock represents the area era when
America's railroads introduced
[16:10] synchronized timekeeping to improve
safety and efficiency. Before electronic
[16:16] signaling, accurate depot clocks were
essential for coordinating train
[16:21] operations and avoiding collisions on
single track rail lines. When railroad
[16:27] service ended in 1936,
the depot was sold and dismantled, but
[16:32] the clock was preserved through the care
of local families.
[16:36] It was housed in Frank Garland service
station, later entrusted by Warren
[16:42] Garland to local collector Donald
Shriner and ultimately inherited by his
[16:47] daughter. Through the efforts of the
Elizabeth Historic Advisory Board, the
[16:52] clock was located in Wisconsin and in a
generous act of preservation, the family
[16:58] of Donald Shriner donated it back to the
town of Elizabeth. Today, the Elizabeth
[17:04] Depot clock remains as a lasting symbol
of Elizabeth's railroad heritage and the
[17:10] community members who preserved its
history for future generations.
[17:15] So, I'm happy and honored to introduce
to you Maryanne Anderson,
[17:20] and she uh will let you know her story
and her relationship to Donald Shriner.
[17:28] » Thank you. First of all, I'd like to
thank her for what she's done. I had no
[17:34] idea what my brother had this until my
niece Ladonna called and said, "I'm
[17:41] sending a clock to you that will hang
back where it belongs."
[17:48] So, I have a funny story I'm going to
share with you. My name is Maryanne
[17:52] Shriner Anderson. So, I'm going to share
a funny story. Where you guys are now
[17:58] sitting,
this is my aunt's and uncle's living
[18:03] room.
[18:07] So, many years ago, the Shriner Motor
Company, which is now the carriage
[18:11] house, was owned by my dad's two
brothers.
[18:15] It was the Shriner Motor Company. They
brought in their brand new cars in
[18:20] October. They covered them up.
My brother was 15 years old. They went
[18:27] to drove to Casser
and they would bring the cars. The
[18:33] sheriff stopped him one time. Wanted to
know what he was doing driving a brand
[18:37] new car cuz he was 15 years old, no
license.
[18:42] His name was Judge Roy Brown.
[18:47] And uh Don told him they were bringing
the new cars in. He said, 'Well, just
[18:52] drive careful.
Um, I am proud to say I've lived here
[18:57] all my life.
I know what all you guys know because
[19:03] this is why you live here. How good it
is to live here in Elizabeth. I
[19:07] graduated 60 years ago with 200 in our
red building.
[19:14] So, it's an honor to have this held
here.
[19:19] My brother enjoyed clocks. I assume
Warren Garland gave it to him cuz my
[19:26] brother worked for Warren Garland. The
gas station was down on the corner. We
[19:31] had a drugstore when I was here. We had
the Elizabeth Locker plant and they had
[19:36] a swimming pool.
We also had
[19:40] uh Walmart for us which was called the
Merkantill.
[19:45] My dad's sister and brother-in-law had
the red and white grocery store where
[19:51] the tax shop was.
Um, a lot of good memories here. A lot
[19:55] of good people that lived here. We knew
everybody. You didn't lock your car
[19:58] doors. You didn't lock your house. It
was a fun time to be here. It's a unique
[20:03] time. I have felt that I've been a
unique time. my um dad or my mom went to
[20:11] school with my husband's
dad and at one time there was very few
[20:16] people in lives but like I say all my
family was here my husband's family was
[20:21] all around brothers and sisters and they
said if the town of Elizabeth
[20:28] would grow the Andersons and the
Shriners would be related well we are so
[20:34] it has been we got a lot of family
history here of uh if my folks's family
[20:41] wasn't ranching, they had different
things here, different businesses than
[20:46] Elizabeth. It they helped Elizabeth grow
back in its day when the missile base
[20:51] came. That was an experience. You
couldn't walk across the street because
[20:56] the tra traffic was so heavy. But it was
a unique time to have grown up here. And
[21:02] I'm proud to pay I live in Douglas
County, have for 60some years, but I've
[21:07] always still been this is home. Thank
you very much. I greatly appreciate it.
[21:20] Thank you.
[21:24] Well, that's the whole best part of the
meeting. Um
[21:29] um we're going to close the regular
meeting and go into the public hearing
[21:36] for Gold Creek Commons PUB First
Amendment. Alex. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor,
[21:42] uh Mayor Protown, members of the board.
Uh tonight we have the Gold Creek
[21:47] Commons Plan Development First Amendment
application. Uh, so the applicant, David
[21:53] Bourne, representing the Steven and
Betty Gibson Charitable Remainder Trust,
[21:58] requests that the board of trustees
approved an amendment to the Gold Creek
[22:01] Commons plan development. The plan
planning commission reviewed this
[22:05] application last week at their August
18th meeting and voted unanimously 7 to
[22:11] zero to recommend approval to the board
of trustees. The amendment revises the
[22:15] land use plan, the development
standards, and the housing mix
[22:18] established under the 2007 zoning, and
it is accompanied by an amended
[22:23] development guide that sets the
standards for each planning area. The
[22:27] property comprises approximately of 56.4
acres on the north side of Highway 86
[22:33] within the town. Um, I have uh Mr. David
Bourne, um, the applicant's
[22:39] representative here with us tonight that
I'll have come up and introduce himself.
[22:43] um and the owner and and the rest of the
project.
[22:51] » Thank you, Alex. Mayor, Mayor Prom, uh
trustees, good evening. My name is David
[22:56] Bourne and I represent the applicant on
this project. Six months ago, this board
[23:02] approved the sketch plan for Gold Creek
Commons. During that meeting, however,
[23:07] members of the board challenged us to
determine whether there was a more
[23:10] compatible project. While the approved
sketch plan reflected the development
[23:15] rights established under the 2007
planned unit development, the question
[23:20] was whether we could improve upon it.
Rather than proceeding directly into
[23:24] preliminary plat, we accepted the
challenge. Over the past six months,
[23:28] we've worked extensively with town
staff, our consultants, referral
[23:32] agencies, and neighboring property
owners. The amendment before you tonight
[23:36] is the product of those conversations.
One of the questions raised during the
[23:41] sketch plan hearing came from Mayor Prom
Hutchkins who asked whether the
[23:45] commercial area adjacent to the Simon
neighborhood represented the best
[23:48] interest and the best transition or
whether there was a better solution. At
[23:53] the time, we agreed a better solution
likely existed, but explained that
[23:57] making that change would require a PUD
amendment rather than a sketch plan.
[24:02] This amendment is our response to that.
Nearly all of the commercial has been
[24:06] relocated and concentrated along Highway
86 where it is most appropriate and
[24:11] least disruptive to the existing
neighborhoods. In its place, we've
[24:14] created a minimum 60-foot open space
buffer exceeding well beyond that in
[24:19] several locations to provide a more
compatible transition while also
[24:23] maintaining while also minimizing
impacts to the adjoining homes and
[24:28] equestrian properties. Trusty Connley,
you also had some expressed some
[24:32] concerns about the uncertainty
associated with more than 25 acres of
[24:36] future commercial development. While the
traffic study projected anticipated
[24:41] volumes, the size and location of that
commercial area left a broad range of
[24:45] future uses and variables. This
amendment substantially narrow narrows
[24:50] those variables. It reduces project
projected traffic by approximately
[24:56] one-third and replaces more than 25
acres of potential commercial
[25:00] development with a single 3.3 acre
neighborhood commercial site along
[25:04] Highway 86. The result is a project that
is more predictable, more compatible,
[25:09] and more appropriate for its
surroundings. We've also committed to
[25:13] continue working with the neighborhood.
Over the past six months, we've spent
[25:16] countless hours doing exactly that. Not
every request could be accommodated, but
[25:21] many of the revisions before you are the
direct result of those conversations.
[25:26] Last week, the planning commission held
its public hearing on this amendment.
[25:29] After hearing from staff and the public
in conducting its own discussions, the
[25:34] planning commission unanimously
recommended approval to the board. We
[25:38] recognize that no development proposal
resolves every concern, and we know
[25:42] there are still issues on which
reasonable people may disagree. We also
[25:46] believe though that this amendment
reflects the comments made by the board
[25:50] during the sketch plan hearing, the
input we've received from the
[25:53] neighborhood over the past 6 months, and
the recommendations of town staff and
[25:56] the planning commission. The approved
sketch plan remains available to us. We
[26:03] are here tonight because we believe this
amendment is a more thoughtful, more
[26:07] compatible, and more responsive plan for
this property. And we respectfully ask
[26:11] for your support. With me tonight, I
have Chris McGran, our traffic engineer,
[26:16] Garrett Bales, our civil engineer, and
Don Ryan, our planner, to stand for any
[26:20] detailed questions you may have, and I'm
also available after to hear to answer
[26:24] any questions you may have for me. Thank
you.
[26:26] » Thank you.
[26:31] » This is the time for public comment.
Um, and I have one person that signed
[26:37] up. Is it Renea Oar? Rene,
[26:45] » you will have three minutes.
>> Renee Oar, O as in olive, apostrophe B
[26:52] as in boy, A R. Uh, do I give my address
as well,
[26:57] » please?
>> 40305
[26:59] Margaret Drive. Um, I'm a resident of
Elbert County, so not in the town of
[27:05] Elizabeth, but um, I do have a question
actually for you, Dan.
[27:09] » David. David, I'm so sorry, David. Um,
and it's can the staff provide a
[27:14] side-by-side comparison of currently
approved plan and the amendment,
[27:18] specifically peak hour traffic, um,
including school school times. Um, and
[27:25] then total annual water demand. Um, does
the amendment increase or decrease the
[27:30] water usage and what is the source of
that water?
[27:33] So
>> if it's okay to
[27:37] when public hearing is done, I'll have a
chance to rebut everything. Okay.
[27:40] Respond
>> if if you that's and I'll respond to
[27:44] that.
>> Great. Thank you.
[27:49] » Is there anyone else who did not sign up
that would like to speak? If so, please
[27:54] come to the podium, state your name and
address, and spell your last name for
[28:01] the record, please.
[28:10] Hi, I'm Carter.
>> Is it on?
[28:14] » Thank you. I'm Karen Carter. I've lived
in the Simron neighborhood since 1997.
[28:20] Um, myself and seven other Simron
residents came together. We met with 36
[28:27] of our neighbors and educated them on
this project. We also had several
[28:32] meetings with the developers about our
requests and what we really needed to
[28:38] see happen. Um, we have a saying when we
meet, who are you going to be mad at?
[28:46] The property owner that has every right
to sell the property or the developer
[28:51] that has every right to develop the
property. We went in with that attitude.
[28:55] We talked to them about water. We talked
to them about lights. We talked to them
[29:00] about traffic. The commissioners
supported us in our rural neighborhood
[29:04] to not let all the traffic come through
our neighborhood. We are in
[29:09] conversations and emailing the
commissioners to please work with all of
[29:13] you on road 13 because when we look at
this development and any development
[29:20] that comes into Elbert County, we
respectfully request you to look at
[29:24] infrastructure, to look at your budgets,
to look at what money you have. We
[29:30] cannot be in Dr. Cog yet where the state
will help fund some of that, but we can
[29:35] look at the future. Road 13 connects
directly to this property and 86 will be
[29:42] a cluster.
We are not going to stand up here and
[29:46] say we're ecstatically happy about this,
but we're not going to say that the
[29:50] developer did not work with us. They
were respectful. They were wonderful and
[29:54] they reduced their commercial. They
reduced a lot of everything that they
[29:58] could and gave us buffers.
If you need the names of the people, I
[30:04] have a list. Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[30:12] Was there is there anyone else that wish
to speak? This is your opportunity.
[30:27] Paul Schwarz, town of Elizabeth
resident.
[30:31] Uh
if you read your packet
[30:36] as I did,
it states that third 30% of uh
[30:42] the property would be open space. In
other areas, it says only 20% of the
[30:46] property will be owner
open space.
[30:51] It also states
that uh 3.2 units per acre in the
[30:59] housing. Well, that includes all the
commercial too and the roads. So, it's a
[31:05] flawed comparison.
Now, one thing they state in there is
[31:13] that, oh, we're going to bring in so
much tax revenue and and and
[31:18] all of that and things will be lovely.
They don't tell you that, yeah, it's
[31:23] going to require drilling a new well.
It's going to require hiring more public
[31:27] works, going to require more officers,
more calls for service from the police
[31:31] department. They don't tell you that in
their report.
[31:36] Of course not. That's not what they're
looking for.
[31:40] So the question is,
why did they go for the sketch plan if
[31:45] they were then intending on coming back
and asking for higher density?
[31:52] How come they just didn't cut down on
the,
[31:55] you know, address the neighbors concerns
about buffering and reduce the size of
[32:03] the commercial area? No. No. They had to
increase the number of residential.
[32:10] There's no way that
the that the concerns of the residents
[32:15] were addressed properly. It was well
what can we get maximum?
[32:23] So question to you should be
how come
[32:29] they didn't anticipate market
conditions?
[32:32] Is it the town's responsibility to
alleviate
[32:37] failure to anticipate market conditions
on commercial properties?
[32:45] I don't think so.
He should be held to his original plan
[32:51] or at least the original densities.
[32:56] Thank you.
[33:05] Thank you, Paul. Is there anyone else
that wishes to get up at this time and
[33:11] speak?
[33:16] Okay. Then
>> yeah, I'd keep the public hearing open
[33:21] for the developers rebuttal.
>> Yes.
[33:24] » Yes.
>> Whenever that you ready for that?
[33:27] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[33:29] » Um, thank you for everybody who came and
spoke. I want to address just a couple
[33:32] comments that made the question Rene
that you had about the uh peak traffic
[33:38] comparison in the application packet. We
do have a tra uh two things. We have a
[33:41] full a traffic impact study. We also as
one of the exhibits have um a traffic
[33:47] count comparison between the approved
sketch plan and this proposal. Um I have
[33:53] traffic engineer here. So just I'll go
and you correct me if I say anything
[33:56] wrong. It shows both um peak and off-
peak traffic. It also shows new and
[34:03] what's the other word?
>> Okay,
[34:08] I'm I'm off the deep end now. Um
there's two classifications of traffic
[34:13] that it shows. Depending on which one
you look at, it demonstrates a decrease
[34:17] of between 34 and 32% this proposal
versus the sketch plan. And I think Alex
[34:23] might have that if I don't know if you
have a print out available or it it is
[34:29] online in the packet if if you can show
it, but it it was part of our
[34:32] application. The second question you
asked was about water. We don't
[34:35] necessarily have a study that
demonstrates here's the exact amount of
[34:38] water that's going to be issued per use.
When the PUB was approved in 2007, um
[34:44] the owner had to agree that all of the
water rights and shares that were that
[34:48] ran with the property would be
transferred to the town of Elizabeth in
[34:51] exchange for the proposal of what was
going to be what was going to be
[34:55] developed that they determined and the
water shares were going to be sufficient
[34:59] to service that and in excess. The town
has been using those water rights for
[35:02] the past 20 years. the proposal that we
have, and this is not as precise a
[35:07] science as traffic count, but usually
commercial uses about five times the
[35:12] water usage as residential. There's big
swings in there and there's big
[35:15] variable, but that's kind of a general
rule of thumb. And we've reduced um the
[35:20] commercial from about 25 acres to about
3 acres. Additionally, a lot of the
[35:23] restrictions that we voluntarily placed
on the residents include water
[35:28] management um clauses in terms of
landscaping and and uses. Um I think
[35:34] those are your two questions. Um the
other question Paul you had mentioned
[35:38] open space. I believe the and Don's
here. He can answer the number is 30% of
[35:42] the property is now open space. The
requirement in the PUD I believe was
[35:47] 5.5%.
Um, Don, correct me if any of those
[35:51] numbers are wrong. I think the big
question, and Paul, you said it very
[35:54] eloquently, why are we really here? If
we had the sketch plan and we had it
[35:58] approved, why are we here? Um, there was
a very wise man at the sketch plan
[36:03] hearing who also spoke about this and he
said, um, the changes that are required
[36:09] are sufficient, and I quote, a PUD
amendment should be required for you to
[36:12] approve this. followed up by saying
they'd have half the opposition if they
[36:16] would just take the commercial off the
west side. That wise man was also Paul.
[36:21] Um so he he brought both of those
comments that I think really helped us
[36:25] further this um discussion. So and I'm
open to any other questions that you may
[36:31] have at this time as well as any of my
consultants and engineers.
[36:38] Corey, is this where we need to ask
additional questions or do that next?
[36:45] » You can close the public hearing and ask
questions if if you want to go to
[36:50] deliberations.
>> Okay. Well, I have some questions before
[36:54] » that then.
Um
[37:02] it in the development plan it talks
about the single family detached as the
[37:10] shift toward a primarily single farm
family detached residential program with
[37:18] uh single family attached housing
limited to planning. Area two is more
[37:24] consistent with the character of the
surrounding residential. So, is that
[37:29] planning area number two going to
include both single family attached and
[37:34] single family detached?
>> I'm glad you brought that up, mayor,
[37:38] because that was one of the one of the
other items of feedback that came back
[37:41] from the sketch plan that we didn't
address necessarily in the comments. Um,
[37:44] the original sketch plan allowed for two
planning two residential planning areas.
[37:48] One had a minimum of 6,000 square foot
detached homes. The other had minimum of
[37:53] 4,500 ft detached homes, but also
allowed for 3500 ft minimum lotsized
[38:01] attached homes. Uh the sketch plan that
we provided had the 134 homes and I
[38:06] think it was 52 and 82 detached versus
attached. Consistent feedback not only
[38:13] from the trustees but also from many of
the neighbors that we spoke to said they
[38:16] didn't like the attached product. it
felt a little too high density for this
[38:22] type of setting. Uh as you know there
was a lot of opinions you know some hey
[38:26] they should be fiveacre minimum lots
that obviously wasn't something that was
[38:29] economically feasible but we did agree
that um the challenge with the existing
[38:35] sketch plan was that those residences
were isolated to specific acreage. If we
[38:40] could expand the acreage where we could
put the homes we could spread them out
[38:44] and have more detached homes. So right
now the amendment shows um I think we're
[38:51] allowed to have a maximum of 10 attached
homes total and those would be allocated
[38:57] or isolated in residential planning area
2 I believe is the right number which is
[39:02] the area directly north of the
commercial space. So the the closest to
[39:07] Highway 86 furthest away from the
existing homes.
[39:11] » Okay,
that makes more sense. Um, and then
[39:19] why why did you choose a 14 pump gas
station and convenience store to
[39:25] determine um the traffic on the
commercial acreage?
[39:32] » Um, I think great question. Um, one of
the things we did when we went through
[39:36] the commercial, there were a number so
and I'm going to give a long preamble
[39:41] before I get to the answer. Um there
were a number of uses on the commercial
[39:44] list that were unappealing to a lot of
the neighbors. They included I think a
[39:48] liquor store, nightclub, some of the
things that in discussions we said in
[39:52] our proposal we're going to remove those
from acceptable uses. Gas station
[39:56] convenience store is one of them. The
reason why we use that in the traffic
[39:59] study, it is one of the highest traffic
uses that could be placed on that site.
[40:04] Uh, Trusty Connley, that was one of the
things that you had brought up
[40:08] frequently that you're putting these um
you get 25 acres of commercial. The
[40:13] range of what could be put on there is
pretty wide. If it's something like a
[40:18] gas station, it's going to use a lot of
cars. It's going to have a lot of
[40:21] traffic. If it's something like a,
you know, I don't know, a remote work
[40:27] office, it's going to have significantly
less. But the variable is really great.
[40:31] We selected something with the highest
possible or one of the highest possible
[40:36] traffic counts to use in our study. So
when the reality comes in, it's not
[40:40] going to be more than that.
>> Okay. So that is not necessarily what
[40:46] you're seeking to to put on there.
>> It is one of the allowed uses. We are
[40:50] not proposing here what what exactly is
going to go there.
[40:55] » Okay. Yeah, that was one of my other
things because this is a commercial use
[41:03] commercial mixeduse area
or because it's in the PUB is that why
[41:09] then you can put a gas station in there
because in our normal ordinances
[41:14] in commercial mixed use a gas station
isn't allowed. It has to be in um
[41:20] regional commercial or light industrial.
So it is so a gas station commercial a
[41:26] gas station convenience store is one of
the specific allowed uses on this PUD.
[41:32] It is not one of the ones that was
egregiously offensive to the neighbors
[41:36] that we selected to remove.
>> Okay. Um then I just have a couple of
[41:43] questions about the both the housing
maximum height and the commercial
[41:49] maximum height because both of those to
me on the housing you've got a maximum
[41:55] height of 35 ft and on the commercial a
maximum of 40t which um both of those
[42:03] will dwarf anything around them. Um, and
to me that's too massive. And we don't
[42:10] allow that in any other and I I
understand this is a PUD and it has
[42:16] different rules, but we don't allow that
in any of the other
[42:20] » um areas. So I'm curious why that much
height. So, I I think a couple things
[42:27] when we evaluated the PUD, we tried to
identify the things that really gave um
[42:32] I'm going to say the board and the
neighbors serious heartburn. Um, and a
[42:38] lot of that was the product product
type, the attached product, the
[42:42] proximity to the existing homes, the
proximity of the commercial to the
[42:47] existing homes, the volume of the
commercial, and the traffic that it
[42:50] generated.
We didn't go line by line and try to
[42:54] identify every single thing to rewrite
the entire PUD. Okay? Not only for our
[42:58] sake, our sake, but for yours as well.
So, a lot of the elements we left in
[43:02] there, we did in um reinforce some of
them that we felt were lacking. There's
[43:06] some elements in there where we changed
language about landscaping, where we
[43:10] changed language about um I think the
fire protection and fire mitigation. Um
[43:15] there was some language that we changed
about water wise because those were the
[43:18] things that came up as sensitive issues
with the discussions that we had with
[43:22] regard to it dwarfing. I think the um
I think the concern that we really tried
[43:29] to address was the compatibility and the
transition between the existing
[43:33] neighbors into ours. We know it's not
going to be, you know, it's not going to
[43:38] make everybody happy and and that would
be very difficult to do. What we really
[43:42] thought was important to address that
issue which is the compatibility and
[43:46] that's either height or you know width
or attached um was the buffer between
[43:53] the equestrian property on Simmeron
which find which makes our western
[43:57] border and ours. So we were able to put
a 60oot buffer an open space buffer
[44:02] between their property and the next
nearest property. That means on that
[44:06] property, so if somebody puts a home
there, their back fence is 60 ft away
[44:11] from their neighbor's back fence, the
the existing Simron neighbor, but they
[44:14] also have a 25 ft buffer or 25 ft
setback from that fence to where their
[44:19] structure would be. So that means that
the nearest structure would be 85 ft
[44:23] away from the neighboring property line.
And many of those properties are a few
[44:27] hundred feet away from their own
property line. So I think that was what
[44:30] we were really going for to ease the
compatibility, not necessarily going and
[44:35] adjusting every element of the existing
uh landscape and architectural
[44:40] guidelines.
[44:43] » Okay. And then I know in the original
agreement it talked about uh basically a
[44:50] metro district. Mhm.
>> Um
[44:53] and
so it looks like you're still going to
[44:58] look at doing a metro district for the
infrastructure.
[45:02] » Yeah, I I would say that falls under the
same category. That's something that's
[45:05] in the existing PUD. We've left it in
the PUD. We will explore to see if that
[45:11] makes sense. Again, if it's compatible
with
[45:14] » what's going to be built there and who's
going to live there, but we haven't done
[45:17] anything to pursue that at this time.
>> Okay. Um, and I know that in I think
[45:23] it's in the original one, it talks about
that the commercial property, the roads
[45:31] in there are going to be um private
roads. Um, is that still the intention
[45:39] that the roads in the commercial area
will be private roads?
[45:45] » I'm going to admit you stumped me on
that one. Okay. Um,
[45:50] and and maybe Don, I don't know if you
know the answer to that.
[45:54] » Okay, I brought somebody smarter than me
to answer that. Let me have Don answer
[45:57] that.
>> Thank you,
[46:00] » Don Ryan with LII Design Group. Uh, so
the the property for the commercial is
[46:07] limited to 3.3 acres. That's a
relatively small site. In addition, that
[46:14] particular parcel has some constraints.
It has the flood plane. It has the
[46:19] existing sewer easement that runs
through it. So, the effective net area
[46:24] of that commercial area is actually
smaller than 3.3 acres. There's really
[46:29] not enough room to put a private street
per se in that parcel.
[46:34] » Okay. Um, I believe that I in my
experience
[46:39] you could maybe have two uses in that
parcel, but more likely there will just
[46:44] be one use, one commercial use in that
3.3 acre parcel.
[46:50] » Okay,
thank you.
[46:55] » Does anybody else have questions for the
applicant?
[47:00] » I don't have any questions.
>> Okay.
[47:03] » All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[47:09] Then at this time, we will close the
public hearing
[47:15] and go into new business at 7:46
p.m.
[47:22] And we're in new business discussion and
possible action on ordinance 2613,
[47:29] an ordinance amending the planned unit
development zoning for the property
[47:34] generally known as the Gold Creek
Commons PUD.
[47:37] Alex, did you have anything to add?
>> I I do not, but I'm open to any
[47:43] questions.
[47:47] James, can I ask you a question on the
um where it talks about um and this is
[47:53] under the
fire stuff um about the 60,000 gallons
[48:00] and 180,000 gallons. Does that mean
there will be storage town owned storage
[48:05] water storage tanks on that property? uh
currently at this time. I know there's
[48:10] there was some discussion when uh Mike
was still with the town um for that.
[48:18] There's also some discussion on um
serviceability on uh sanitary sewer that
[48:23] you know later on down the road with
design um would would come up at some
[48:28] point, but I I'm not too clear on if
that's the 60 uh and 100,000 gallon
[48:35] holding capacities of the current lift
stations
[48:39] um that we have in place. Um so I I'd
have to look into that.
[48:44] » Okay. Thank you. And I and I would just
say this, practically speaking, things
[48:48] like water storage are addressed at
subdivision. Okay?
[48:50] » So it'll be at that point where
>> the water storage needs would be would
[48:55] be evaluated and if necessary, those
would be obligations to the developer.
[49:00] » Okay. Thank you.
Any other
[49:06] questions or comments?
[49:12] Uh, I would just like to
say that um
[49:18] I appreciate everything the applicant
has done through this process. I have
[49:25] been
involved in and aware of numerous other
[49:30] developments and processes and I have
yet to come across an applicant um that
[49:39] has put the effort into really listening
to what questions that we had as a board
[49:48] and also um to the residents because
unfortunately the residents
[49:54] abuing the property um sort of get
usually get told
[50:00] you know too bad you didn't buy it that
kind of thing and you have not done that
[50:06] and I appreciate that. I I think it
speaks well to the ownership and to the
[50:15] group. Um, and I just want to say I
think you have done a good job with that
[50:22] and I know that um, you know, we have a
lot of, uh, residents from Simmeron here
[50:31] that have spoken at other meetings in
attendance tonight and I think it says a
[50:38] lot to what you have done. um that they
all have not had something negative to
[50:46] say tonight. Um you've done a lot of
work with the community. You've listened
[50:53] to them and I I appreciate that. Um and
I think um you've done a good job. I
[51:02] personally I
am for this because I see the changes
[51:08] that you've made
and
[51:12] you know some people
don't want growth necessarily to happen
[51:18] in our community. Growth is a bad thing.
Like it's a four-letter word. But
[51:25] a community as a whole, we need growth.
We need new people. We need new ideas.
[51:34] Um, as I was reading through your maps
and your plans and everything, I
[51:41] thought, you know, this is an
opportunity. This is a place where
[51:47] someone might move in there and they
say, "Hey, I I love where I live.
[51:53] I want to have a business here that I
want to be able to work where I live.
[52:00] Um, that's the kind of things that keep
this community growing
[52:07] a and bringing people in and I um
I I just I appreciate what you have
[52:17] done. Um,
you know, Angie talked about the the
[52:22] building heights and stuff and those,
you know, I realize those can be
[52:26] addressed um at a later date when we get
into, you know, more specifics. Um, but,
[52:35] you know, I I'm
in favor of ordinance 26-13.
[52:43] Any other comments?
If not, I'll accept a motion.
[52:50] » Move to approve ordinance 26-13,
an ordinance amending the planned unit
[52:58] development zoning for the property
generally known as the Gold Creek
[53:02] Commons PUB.
>> I'll second it.
[53:06] I have a motion and a second to approve
ordinance 2613,
[53:12] an ordinance amending the planned unit
development zoning for the property
[53:16] generally known as the Gold Creek
Commons PUD.
[53:20] Michelle, can we do a re roll call vote?
>> Yes, Mayor. Mayor Turnis,
[53:26] » I.
>> Mayor Proan Hutchkins,
[53:30] » I.
>> Trustee Einar,
[53:32] » I.
>> Trusty Schroeder,
[53:34] » I. Trusty Connley
>> I.
[53:37] » Trusty Gaither
>> I.
[53:41] » That motion passes unanimously. Thank
you gentlemen.
[53:54] Next on our agenda is discussion and
possible action on resolution 26R
[54:02] 24, a resolution approving the
settlement agreement upon termination
[54:08] between the town and triplem
construction LLC regarding the trade
[54:13] contractor agreement for the Main Street
streetscape project. Chris,
[54:19] » thank you, Madam Mayor. I don't have
much to add. I know that I've had
[54:21] discussions with each of you uh
extensively over the last uh several
[54:26] months uh as we've um worked our way
through this to this point. Um at this
[54:32] point, we're um there's a little bit of
back and forth from the from the legal
[54:38] standpoint in terms of language. Um but
and so I will defer to uh Cory's
[54:44] superior area edition and uh knowledge
on uh what we're doing there. Um I would
[54:51] accept whatever recommendation he gives
you. I I do not anticipate that we will
[54:55] change the agreement other than the the
last version that I gave you uh this
[55:00] morning uh which was from Corey. Uh I
don't anticipate changing it and I don't
[55:06] think he's going to tell you that you
should change it. So, um uh if it if it
[55:11] is approved, I will take that to the uh
opposing uh party and try and get this
[55:18] thing buttoned up. That's all I have.
Any other questions? I'm happy to
[55:22] answer.
>> Thank you. Corey, did you have something
[55:25] for us?
>> So, just just a couple things. So, first
[55:28] of all, as to the language, there is one
outstanding issue and it is very simple.
[55:33] it is whether or not if there is what's
referred to as a material breach of the
[55:38] agreement whether the the prevailing
party is entitled to attorney fees. Um,
[55:44] practically speaking, am I worried about
it? I'm not because I am confident the
[55:49] town of Elizabeth would not materially
breach the agreement. So, practically
[55:53] speaking, it's not a concern. It is a
legal concern in terms of the ability of
[55:58] the town of Elizabeth to appropriate for
that if it were to ever happen many
[56:03] years in the future. My suggestion on
that is to if you are inclined to
[56:08] approve the agreement to approve it
subject to my final approval and it
[56:12] would only be as to that provision
because everything else has been agreed
[56:16] upon. Secondly, I just want to make sure
the board knows what the agreement says.
[56:22] And it is an agreement to essentially
tell the contractor we're done. And
[56:30] everything we see that's left there that
we see or could discover today, we do
[56:37] not have a claim against the contractor.
Um, we do have a claim if there are
[56:43] later latent defects. In other words,
defects we cannot determine as of
[56:48] today's date and the contractor has
agreed to cooperate in the event that
[56:55] the town determines it appropriate to um
make a claim against the design
[57:00] engineer. Um, I think while the
contractor and the town have found it
[57:06] hard to agree on most things, the one
thing they can't agree on is that they
[57:11] that the design was a lot of the issue
that made this project much more
[57:16] difficult. So, um I want to make sure
what the town is getting into um and
[57:21] that you all understand what the terms
of the settlement are because, um this
[57:25] is one of those where I think based on
the direction you gave the town
[57:29] administrator, no one's happy. Um but
frankly, I don't think um litigation
[57:38] over the amounts at issue could ever get
you a better deal.
[57:45] » Okay. So go over that part that's not
currently in that. Can you say that
[57:51] again?
>> The first the part we have. Yes.
[57:54] » So the it is a common provision in
agreements that the party that wins if
[58:02] there is a breach is entitled to
attorney fees.
[58:07] » Okay?
>> So this is what's known as a prevailing
[58:11] party attorney fees provision. In other
words, if there is a material breach if
[58:16] the town were able to prove that TripleM
materially breached the settlement
[58:22] agreement, it would be entitled to
attorney fees against TripleM. Likewise,
[58:28] if TripleM determined or made an
allegation that was proven that the town
[58:33] materially breached the settlement
agreement, then it would be entitled to
[58:38] attorney fees. That is the only section
that is still in play. And our typical
[58:45] agreements do not um expose the town to
possible attorney fees because frankly
[58:51] you can't appropriate for them. So let's
assume that
[58:57] something unforeseen happened and the
town materially breached the agreement.
[59:02] That would likely be not in 2026.
And how do you appropriate as a matter
[59:08] of budgeting for that type of award?
That's the issue. Um the law is
[59:16] ambiguous on that issue. Um and so do I
think it is a hill for the town board to
[59:22] die on? I don't. Um for two reasons.
Number one, the likelihood of there
[59:28] actually being a breach of this
settlement agreement is
[59:32] very very insignificant. The reason it
is very very insignificant is that
[59:37] there's no obligations of either party.
TripleM
[59:43] basically leaves and says if you
discover something that's hidden, we're
[59:48] still on the hook for it. The town says,
TripleM, we're paying you the contract
[59:53] amount. You're agreeing that if we
decide to make a claim against the
[59:58] engineer,
you will cooperate.
[1:00:03] That's pretty much the deal.
>> Okay.
[1:00:07] » And and I would I would just merely add
that
[1:00:14] there really is no real opportunity for
us to materially breach this agreement
[1:00:19] on September 9th when the notice period
for the subcontractors or as required by
[1:00:28] um state law. uh once that period has
passed, we're cutting a check and that's
[1:00:34] should be the conclusion of the
agreement. So I don't think that you
[1:00:38] have any risk that we are going to
materially breach that and I don't I
[1:00:45] don't believe that that they will
either. So, I I think this is a lot of
[1:00:51] maybe wrangling about language that
really isn't going to be necessary, but
[1:00:56] I again
follow this guy's advice on that.
[1:01:00] » It is definitely lawyer's wrangling. I
there is no doubt I'm not um but but
[1:01:06] Chris raised something that's important
that the other piece is originally we
[1:01:11] said, you know, we're going to we're
going to bring something and tonight's
[1:01:13] the final resolution. Well, when we went
and looked at where the town was in this
[1:01:19] project, it had never published for
final settlement. So, the way the
[1:01:24] process works, the town has to publish
notice of final settlement first because
[1:01:28] if there are any subcontractors or
suppliers that haven't been paid, that
[1:01:33] is their time to make a claim. That
statute's there because contractors
[1:01:38] cannot lean public property. So, this is
how you um how contractors deal with
[1:01:44] public entities. So, we have to wait for
final settlement. If there are any
[1:01:48] outstanding claims, the statute says we
hold it until those claims are resolved.
[1:01:54] As of today, we haven't gotten any.
Although, we did receive, I think, one
[1:01:57] open records request that suggests
someone may be looking. So, assuming
[1:02:02] everything we don't get any claims, they
get paid in full. Assuming there's a
[1:02:06] claim, they get paid in full for
everything minus the claim.
[1:02:10] and and we have published that in paper
record and um and on the website. So
[1:02:17] we've we've we've complied with this
statute in terms of notice. So
[1:02:22] » Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions or comments on this?
[1:02:28] » I'm just glad to have this behind us.
>> Amen.
[1:02:34] » Then I will entertain a motion.
[1:02:44] Move to approve resolution 26R-24,
resolution approving the settlement
[1:02:51] agreement
um upon termination between the town and
[1:02:57] triplem construction
regarding the trade contractor agreement
[1:03:03] for the Main Street streetscape project.
I'll second that.
[1:03:09] » Okay. I have a motion and a second to
approve resolution 26R24,
[1:03:15] a resolution approving the settlement
agreement upon termination between the
[1:03:20] town and M Construction LLC regarding
the trade contractor agreement for the
[1:03:26] Main Street streetscape project.
[1:03:31] All those in favor, please say I. I.
>> I. All those opposed, please say nay.
[1:03:37] That motion passes unanimously.
[1:03:50] Next up is discussion and possible
action on ordinance 2614,
[1:03:57] an ordinance amending the Elizabeth
Municipal Code by addition there two of
[1:04:02] a new article six of chapter 8
regulating the operation of electrical
[1:04:08] assisted bicycles.
Chief,
[1:04:13] » Madame Mayor, Mayor Prom, members of the
board, is that as you're aware, we have
[1:04:17] been going through a process to draft an
ordinance regarding um ebikes and other
[1:04:24] types of electrical
well assisted
[1:04:30] bicycles,
[1:04:33] » yeah,
emotes
[1:04:38] and um This came in part due to the
movement throughout the state of
[1:04:43] Colorado and throughout the nation and
in response to community concern. Uh
[1:04:49] working with u Corey
um an ordinance was drafted and I can
[1:04:57] say in my assessment in reviewing other
ordinances this is this virtually
[1:05:04] mirrors a number of ordinances
throughout the state. Um and it
[1:05:08] addresses a number of concerns that were
raised by the public to include speed on
[1:05:13] sidewalks
um
[1:05:17] being one. So I again I and it also has
a parental responsibility
[1:05:24] uh component to it. So I think this is
largely a
[1:05:29] well-drafted ordinance for the town of
Elizabeth.
[1:05:34] I found this to be very confusing.
>> So, can you and I've read it over a
[1:05:41] couple of times because I'm going I
still don't get it. Um
[1:05:46] » well and part of the trouble is that
because of their the different classes
[1:05:50] of of bikes, you have to address them
individually and you have to take into
[1:05:56] account the ADA because believe it or
not, some of these vehicles also are
[1:06:02] protected by the ADA. So um
truthfully, it is an incredibly
[1:06:10] confusing and complex ordinance. Um but
what it does in effect,
[1:06:17] the exceptions are what's confusing in
my view. But what it does is it provides
[1:06:24] a mechanism for the police department to
address
[1:06:29] adults and children that are riding
these bikes illegally primarily on
[1:06:36] trails, on sidewalks
uh and the places that are causing um
[1:06:42] harm to the community. And what again
what makes this more confusing at least
[1:06:47] in my mind is we have the exceptions you
have to insert in it for under the ADA.
[1:06:54] I have one question.
On page 258,
[1:07:00] uh, section H, it says, "Unlicensed
vehicles may not operate on public
[1:07:06] roadways within the town except by
written order of the town administrator
[1:07:11] or the town administrator designing."
So, a guy comes through town with a
[1:07:17] piece of farm equipment that doesn't
have to be licensed. Do they got to come
[1:07:21] to town hall say, "Hey, I'm coming
through town."
[1:07:24] » No, because farm equipment is exempted
under state law.
[1:07:29] » But that's not what that says.
>> The town is a statutory town. Cannot
[1:07:33] deviate from state law. Farm equipment
is a totally different type of vehicle
[1:07:39] not covered by this ordinance.
>> When you said unlicensed vehicles,
[1:07:43] that's what confused me.
>> It's essentially exempt.
[1:07:47] » It is under state law. farm equipment is
completely exempt. That could even be
[1:07:51] » they don't need a license. It could be a
hay bail. It could be whatever.
[1:07:57] » Um would it be possible to make like an
infographic
[1:08:02] to put out to the public that makes this
easier to digest?
[1:08:05] » Absolutely. And we can frankly steal
from others because um I know that the
[1:08:10] city and county of Broomfield has put
something out which is what this was
[1:08:14] largely taken from because they have the
they've been kind of at the forefront of
[1:08:17] this Um, a couple of other communities
have followed. So, yeah, we can
[1:08:21] absolutely do that.
>> Perfect. Thank you.
[1:08:24] » So, you're going to do that?
>> Chief.
[1:08:30] » Okay. Well, this is
So, you talk about low power scooters
[1:08:36] and low-speed electric vehicles.
The low power scooters.
[1:08:43] Is this a scooter that's going to
require a driver's license? because it
[1:08:47] says it's permitted on public roadways
although it may
[1:08:53] no low power scooter may travel on a
roadway in excess of 40 miles per hour.
[1:08:58] Are you talking about the speed limit
that the roadway has or the how fast the
[1:09:04] low power scooter can go?
>> The 40 mph
[1:09:07] » for the scooter.
>> Yes.
[1:09:09] » Okay. So, does that then require to be
No. Oh,
[1:09:16] » that's one of the reasons the parental
responsibilities in here.
[1:09:21] » Okay. And and so is the same true then
with that lowspeed electric vehicles
[1:09:29] because that one's 35 mph.
>> It's going to depend. Some do, some
[1:09:34] don't.
>> Okay.
[1:09:35] » I mean, and that's one of the
difficulties with this is
[1:09:38] » that's why I was so confused. I'm
>> these these um definitions are not town
[1:09:44] definitions.
These are definitions taken from state
[1:09:47] law. Oh,
>> so I would love to tell you that I was
[1:09:50] able to make these up, but no, these are
these are
[1:09:55] » not.
Nope.
[1:09:59] » Yeah, we saved you money.
>> Yeah,
[1:10:03] » it is. Can is there a way to boil it
down more not in the town code but in
[1:10:10] literature that we put out that will
>> that's exactly what Trusty Connley asked
[1:10:15] for I think and so yes we are going to
do exactly that.
[1:10:17] » Okay. Pictures are good too.
>> Agreed. No and I I think that's what a
[1:10:23] lot of communes have done. So we're
going to
[1:10:25] » Okay.
>> If adopted we'll absolutely do that.
[1:10:29] » Okay. Any other questions or comments?
[1:10:34] What are we adopting?
If this is so confusing, what I'm trying
[1:10:39] to wrap my head around is what are we
adopting? I mean, what what rules? Yep.
[1:10:47] Are we laying down?
>> Go to section 8-6-20.
[1:10:55] » It's page
256.
[1:11:00] Okay, let me go to the board.
>> Yeah,
[1:11:04] » and it's page three of six of the
ordinance itself.
[1:11:08] » 256 of the name.
>> So you there are two pages of
[1:11:14] definitions, which to me is what makes
this
[1:11:17] » so incredibly confusing, but that's
that's the definitions that we have to
[1:11:21] follow.
So section 8-6-20
[1:11:26] is where you actually take all of these
crazy definitions and try to apply them.
[1:11:31] And so the first section 8-6-20 says
which vehicles
[1:11:37] of as defined above are allowed on
public streets.
[1:11:41] » Okay, hold on. Stop.
>> Okay, trying to catch up to catch up.
[1:11:47] Other powerdriven mobility device.
>> Other power-driven mobility device. I
[1:11:54] see that.
>> I see toy vehicle, unlicensed vehicle,
[1:11:59] and vehicle.
>> Right. And so all of those are defined
[1:12:03] above.
>> And so you have to go through all of
[1:12:06] those to say which ones are allowed on
streets, which ones aren't. So an
[1:12:11] electric
>> which is the next one section 8-6-20
[1:12:15] use on public streets.
>> So that is what is
[1:12:20] being
>> debated. No legislated. That is what
[1:12:24] this does. It says based on the
definitions above,
[1:12:29] » right?
>> An electrical assisted bicycle defined
[1:12:33] above,
>> right,
[1:12:34] » is permitted to be used on public
streets,
[1:12:37] » right?
Unless,
[1:12:40] and this is again taken from state law,
>> okay?
[1:12:43] » If the town makes a determination,
that it is too highly trafficked to
[1:12:48] safely allow for class one and two
electrical assisted bicycles and where
[1:12:54] there's a suitable alternative route
within 450 ft. And again, I didn't pick
[1:12:58] that. That is state law.
>> I understand.
[1:13:01] » In that case,
>> keep going.
[1:13:03] » In that case, they can be prohibited
because you have an alternative route.
[1:13:07] Understood.
>> An EPAMD can be operated on a public
[1:13:12] roadway. That is effectively an ADA
issue.
[1:13:16] » Sure. That's that's somebody in a
scooter can't walk.
[1:13:20] » Right. An electric scooter as defined
above can be used on a public street but
[1:13:25] not on sidewalks.
And again, you can you have the
[1:13:29] exception if you have an alternative
route within 450 with there within a
[1:13:35] quarter of a mile,
>> right? A low power scooter, again this
[1:13:38] is talking about what's allowed on
public streets, permitted on public
[1:13:42] roadways, but cannot go in excess of 40
miles an hour. A low-speed electric
[1:13:47] vehicle
>> has the all the rules of the road for
[1:13:51] that. So that is what 8-6-20
does. Rules of the road. Okay.
[1:13:57] » 8-6-30
rules on other town property. Got it.
[1:14:04] So, um, it says what can and can't be
used on town property, playgrounds,
[1:14:10] tennis courts, athletic fields,
>> right? Pickleball court, etc.
[1:14:14] » Yep. I see.
>> Section 8-6-40,
[1:14:18] school grounds, private property, same
thing.
[1:14:22] So, it's basically where they can be
used, which types of vehicles can be
[1:14:25] used in each location.
And and if I could add just a from a um
[1:14:35] practical extent, right, we we don't
have tools right now for when we find
[1:14:44] vehicles that we think are inappropriate
for where they're being used. Right.
[1:14:48] Right. And so this does try and
distinguish those. Uh it will be a
[1:14:54] learning um uh curve for the public uh
the parents that are um
[1:15:02] are providing these bikes to the
children and anybody else that are using
[1:15:06] them. The um I think you all know um
chief well enough to know that we're not
[1:15:12] going to be heavy-handed.
uh if it's confusing uh we will educate
[1:15:19] before we legislate and and and put them
in municipal court. So we're but this
[1:15:24] does give you the uh foundation in which
they can actually do something cuz right
[1:15:30] now they really can't. And so um we will
spend a lot of time with education of
[1:15:36] those folks. Uh, and I'm certain that
the chief will spend time educating the
[1:15:41] officers themselves about um the various
provisions of the the ordinance, but uh
[1:15:48] I can tell you we will take a common
sense approach to applying this
[1:15:53] legislation.
>> Okay. And the la the last thing I would
[1:15:56] add is the very last section is which is
8-6-90
[1:16:02] is probably going to be the most
important section in a lot of ways
[1:16:06] because um you know just like people
don't know often times that you can get
[1:16:12] a DUI on a bike.
>> Yes.
[1:16:16] » Um
>> and a boat. This this section confirms
[1:16:21] that the provisions of the model traffic
code regarding things like reckless
[1:16:26] diving, careless driving
>> driving. Yeah.
[1:16:28] » Um
>> deluding.
[1:16:29] » Yep. They apply.
>> Okay.
[1:16:32] » And you know, and the the town has over
over time come up with a pretty good
[1:16:38] trail system.
>> Yes. And these things are a have become
[1:16:45] a significant safety concern on trails
in my mind and Elizabeth even made worse
[1:16:52] by the fact you also have horses
and these spook horses. I mean so there
[1:16:58] there's there's a whole host of um
reasons that communities are doing this.
[1:17:03] Okay. But
just point of reference.
[1:17:07] » Yeah.
We're a rural community
[1:17:13] » and if the kids, and I say kids because
I don't see adults very often on this
[1:17:18] stuff, so Chief probably has a better
idea of this than I do, but I see the
[1:17:24] kids on these things.
And if they're riding on the street,
[1:17:30] just like a cyclist would who happens to
be, you know, pedaling across town,
[1:17:37] or if they're using it on
a pathway that's been worn along the
[1:17:43] side of a roadway, are we basically
going to say that, "Hey kids, you can't
[1:17:50] ride these things on a trail
that's just dirt between
[1:17:58] Running Creek Elementary and a kid who
lives on,
[1:18:03] you know, uh, uh, Pine Street.
Is is Is that what we're Is that what
[1:18:09] we're going to be looking for when we
talk about trails? And and if a kid
[1:18:15] rides one of these things on the trail
from
[1:18:20] Running Creek Elementary and down and
around town and then ends up in Running
[1:18:25] Creek Park, is that a no? No. So, I'm
going to take you to section 8-6-30
[1:18:30] subsection B.
[1:18:34] Subsection B1 says if we've posted signs
prohibiting it, the answer is yes.
[1:18:42] Otherwise, they're allowed
unless it is a class three bicycle,
[1:18:50] which is the ones that go really fast.
>> Understand?
[1:18:53] » And those are prohibited.
>> Okay.
[1:19:00] » How?
Not that I own one of these things. What
[1:19:05] is class three?
>> It's defined.
[1:19:09] It it is, but I mean
>> it's the big ones.
[1:19:13] » It's it's uh
>> for lack of
[1:19:15] » is that the thing that says 750
cc's of electrical power?
[1:19:21] » No, it is an electrical assisted bicycle
equipped with a motor that provides
[1:19:25] assistance only when the rider is
pedaling and that ceases to provide
[1:19:28] assistance when a bicycle reaches a
speed of 28 m an hour. Okay. So 28 m an
[1:19:36] hour compared to class one and two that
it basically stop at 20.
[1:19:43] » So it's anything that can go above 20 m
hour
[1:19:46] » in speed if if it can attain 28 30 35
mph that's that's known as the class C
[1:19:53] » class three class three sorry class
three. So, we're saying in this that
[1:19:59] class three will not be allowed on any
trails or pathways correct? That is
[1:20:05] correct.
>> But they can ride it on the street.
[1:20:08] » Correct.
>> Correct.
[1:20:09] » That was my Thank you, Lauren. Because
that was my next question. Where can
[1:20:12] they ride them?
>> Street.
[1:20:13] » Just like you could ride any bike that
you pedal on your own.
[1:20:18] » Okay.
>> And follow the rules of the road,
[1:20:20] » right? Because I mean, yeah, if a good
cyclist can pedal 35, 40 miles an hour,
[1:20:26] somebody who's athletic enough.
>> Okay.
[1:20:28] » Well, they also have to signal,
>> right?
[1:20:32] » Yeah. You'll have that as well.
>> Okay. Um, lastly, and I'm going to let
[1:20:37] this go.
[1:20:45] Is any of this or is all of this that
we're putting forth set in concrete or
[1:20:50] is it amendable over time?
>> Anything you legislate is amendable over
[1:20:56] time.
>> Um my understanding from conversations
[1:21:01] I've had with the chief is that this is
something that the community has been um
[1:21:06] asking for and talking about for quite
some time. Um, I absolutely appreciate
[1:21:13] the point that this is a rural community
that um these kind of rules are are
[1:21:20] unusual. Um,
in my experience, rural communities
[1:21:26] across the state now are dealing with
this because there have been issues
[1:21:30] where folks just aren't using these on
streets. They're using them everywhere
[1:21:34] else. And that's where the danger comes.
[1:21:39] my my my hesitation with all of it in in
going over the minutia and I apologize
[1:21:45] to everyone on the board for taking up
unnecessary time. I grew up as a kid in
[1:21:50] Evergreen, Colorado in the 1970s and
80s. We all had dirt bikes. We all had
[1:21:56] various bikes of different kinds. We
rode them all over and I know darn well
[1:21:59] we rode them illegally as well as
legally. And we had a darn good time
[1:22:04] doing it. And even though I face planted
and almost broke my neck more than once
[1:22:09] using those u motorcycles, I enjoyed
them very much. And I enjoy being a kid.
[1:22:14] And I know that kids can be really
annoying and people find a lot of
[1:22:19] different reasons to really loathe the
13, the 14, the 12-year-old kid down the
[1:22:25] street because he rides this or he rides
that or he makes too much noise with his
[1:22:28] drum set or whatever.
That being said,
[1:22:34] I'm I'm I understand where this is
going. Um but yeah, as long as it's
[1:22:39] something that is not going to be
heavy-handed uh and make every kid um uh
[1:22:44] um a potential um target.
[1:22:51] Again,
that comes down to the enforcement and
[1:22:56] you have a police chief that's pretty
common senseoriented
[1:23:01] » and I think that that will um filter
down to the officers and obviously if
[1:23:06] it's if it's if it's used in a
heavy-handed fashion after this chief is
[1:23:11] gone or whenever you whenever you do I
mean then you can address that from a
[1:23:16] policy standpoint say but but this is I
mean the fact is this is a tool and if
[1:23:23] you don't have this tool in the box you
can't fix the problem and what we're
[1:23:28] really trying to do is make sure that
those people don't get hurt on the trail
[1:23:32] that aren't just a punk kid that's
cruising around trying to jump uh things
[1:23:38] like we all probably did. I mean I so I
honestly we'll we will do this with a
[1:23:43] common sense uh approach and there will
also be an education period where we
[1:23:48] want to make sure that our officers even
understand and uh um it is really going
[1:23:54] to be just a an educational tool first
before it is a legislational
[1:23:59] » appreciate that. So,
>> thanks.
[1:24:06] » Thank you, Chief and Corey, for coming
up with this. Um,
[1:24:12] and Mike's right, we're rural, but
these kids out here all have social
[1:24:19] media. And trust me, all of these things
that are going on in the bigger towns
[1:24:24] with these bikes, they are all on social
media. And kids
[1:24:29] 10 and up are
all over trying to make it on social
[1:24:36] media and post the same stupid stuff
that's happening in other jurisdictions
[1:24:41] and eluding the police and cutting
through people's backyards and um
[1:24:48] driving against the flow of traffic and
all kinds of other things um
[1:24:55] are happening And whether we like it or
not, we will end up seeing it out here
[1:25:02] if we haven't already. And I know that
there's been instances on sidewalks and
[1:25:08] stuff where the kids are riding too
fast. So, um, I get it. Um, so I
[1:25:16] appreciate it and I I'm glad you guys
are going to do some other educational
[1:25:20] things because yeah, reading this was
very confusing. So anyway, any other
[1:25:30] questions or comments?
If not, I will entertain a motion. put
[1:25:36] forth a motion to approve ordinance
26-14, an ordinance amending the
[1:25:40] Elizabeth Municipal Code by the addition
thereto of a new article,
[1:25:45] » what is that?
>> 11
[1:25:47] » six
>> Roman numerals of chapter 8 regulating
[1:25:51] the operation of electrical assisted
bicycles.
[1:25:54] » I'll second it. I have a motion and a
second to approve ordinance ordinance
[1:26:01] 26-14,
an ordinance amending the Elizabeth
[1:26:04] Municipal Code by the addition thereto
of a new article 6 of chapter 8
[1:26:09] regulating the operation of electrical
assisted bicycles. All those in favor,
[1:26:15] please say I. I.
>> All those opposed, please say nay. That
[1:26:19] passes unanimously.
[1:26:24] Next up is items for consideration.
And I have a couple
[1:26:32] um
that um
[1:26:39] talking about 601 Pine Ridge Street as
to what the plan moving forward with
[1:26:46] that is. Um
and um
[1:26:53] personally I I would also like the board
to talk about whether we want Christmas
[1:27:01] presents because in my book I I'd like
to get away from that. Um but
[1:27:11] uh and then um
the other thing that we should talk
[1:27:17] about
is um parks and wreck is looking to
[1:27:25] revamp the rec center um because they
want to bring it before the voters
[1:27:32] next year in May. um it won't be on this
November ballot. Um but one of the
[1:27:39] things they're asking is whether we're
we the town would want to partner with
[1:27:46] them in including
some space for senior center. So those
[1:27:54] are just three different things that at
some point we
[1:27:59] should have discussion on. I think
[1:28:05] and it doesn't need to be tonight. It
can be on another evening if we want to
[1:28:11] put that on there.
[1:28:15] Any other
items for consideration
[1:28:20] » regarding the thing that you mentioned,
Mayor, with parks and wreck.
[1:28:24] » Yes. I would definitely like to see
something in front of us as a board
[1:28:29] because
um I too have heard several things that
[1:28:35] parks and wreck is alluding to in their
future planning. Of course, the only
[1:28:42] reason I'm even made aware of these
things is I presently do business with
[1:28:46] them. I provide their security and
surveillance for the facility buildings
[1:28:50] that are there now and that includes the
pavilion. Um, but I know that there's
[1:28:54] talk too that they would like um to also
perhaps build a regional swimming pool
[1:29:01] of some sort,
>> right,
[1:29:02] » in addition to that. So, I would
definitely like that to be something
[1:29:06] that
>> we discuss in the not too distant future
[1:29:10] um knowing that it wasn't going to be on
this fall's um um ballot, but May is not
[1:29:17] far.
>> Yes, correct. I agree. And I think we
[1:29:21] need to talk sooner than later about it.
>> Yeah.
[1:29:27] » If we're looking,
>> I think an opportunity for your new
[1:29:30] manager will be um that's a perfect
opportunity to give them that direction
[1:29:36] and say, "Hey, um sit down with those
folks, meet with them, and and start
[1:29:41] that relationship." And then you all can
kind of uh work with it as it develops.
[1:29:46] But I I I think there's nothing that I
would do on that in the next few months.
[1:29:53] Um other than when you do have someone
in that position permanently, that would
[1:29:58] probably one of the things you would
include in their um um first annual um
[1:30:04] goal setting session would be, hey, you
need to start partnering with uh PNR to
[1:30:09] to figure that out. So that'd be my
recommendation. Well, I guess then
[1:30:15] informally, is that something that the
board is interested in talking with
[1:30:20] Parks and Wreck about? because they're
kind of looking for is this something
[1:30:25] we're as a board even interested in in
partnering with them and them actually
[1:30:31] having the building but then having part
of it
[1:30:36] set aside for uh senior center um
activities.
[1:30:46] I think
it be
[1:30:51] us as an organization to
work with any other organization
[1:31:00] that
may have the opportunity to do some
[1:31:06] build a senior center. Um because that's
something, you know, we've all been
[1:31:13] talking about it for years,
had discussions with the school district
[1:31:19] that went backwards and nowhere and
we're still talking about it. Um, and
[1:31:29] I would like to have those discussions
with the parks and recck board um to
[1:31:36] include
that component. So,
[1:31:43] » Lauren,
>> well, I won't be around for it, but I
[1:31:47] disagree. It won't be a li an Elizabeth
Community
[1:31:54] Senior Center. It will be a
u
[1:32:00] commercial. Well, it' be under their
name. All we're going to have is a a
[1:32:06] room to go to send our senior citizens
to. So, it will never be an Elizabeth
[1:32:13] senior center
if we partner with parks and recrecks.
[1:32:19] » I think it's something to get on the
agenda for us to talk about in the
[1:32:22] future.
[1:32:30] ought to go talk to the library. They
already got half a building they don't
[1:32:33] even use and they got plenty of property
and it's in town.
[1:32:38] » Um, have you been to the library
recently and gone to any of their
[1:32:41] planning meetings? They already have
plans for their back room. That is um
[1:32:47] they have been working on design. They
um that was part of uh the fundraising
[1:32:55] for the Brewfest. They are looking to
completely redesign
[1:33:01] the library and incorporate any and all
of the back room um with conference
[1:33:09] space with um expanding the library into
both rooms. So, um it's got plans to
[1:33:20] even add uh amenities outside. So, yeah,
they've already they're already working
[1:33:28] on incorporating the whole rest of their
building.
[1:33:34] So,
[1:33:39] Tracy, did you have something?
>> No, I just You had brought up you
[1:33:43] brought up the Pine Ridge. Yes.
>> property and
[1:33:47] » yeah,
>> you know, possibly what we're going to
[1:33:50] do with that.
>> Do we need to wait until after the
[1:33:55] facilities management?
>> Which is exactly what I was going to say
[1:33:59] is that um that's part of the point for
doing that is to have the plan in place.
[1:34:07] Then we can look at that and say, okay,
well, we own this piece of property.
[1:34:12] What are we going to do with it? and
what's the best the best thing to do
[1:34:17] with it um to serve the most people. So,
I I think
[1:34:24] you're just a little bit ahead on that
one.
[1:34:28] Well, I will say that I budgeted revenue
for that for next year. So, I I figured
[1:34:34] that before you did anything, we'd
probably be able to do that. Plus, we
[1:34:38] also need to be um respectful of the
individual that's living there and give
[1:34:43] them time to plan as well. So, um
>> Well, and that's why I wanted to talk
[1:34:50] about it because we do have somebody
living there.
[1:34:53] » Yeah.
>> Um
[1:34:55] » but
included in that is whether we build
[1:35:00] something on it or we don't build
something on it.
[1:35:04] It has not been annexed into town,
>> which it should be,
[1:35:08] » and it has not been zoned for town,
>> which it should be.
[1:35:11] » Both of those things need to occur.
Also,
[1:35:15] » I I I would I would I would just say
that once you've once you've had the
[1:35:18] consultant um take a look at that
property and make some recommendations,
[1:35:23] once they've seen it in context with the
rest of the properties, then you'll have
[1:35:28] a better idea of of the direction you
might head. But at this point, I think
[1:35:32] it's a little premature to decide
anything on it right now. Um,
[1:35:38] you know, you'll have that study done
probably by close to the end of the
[1:35:41] year, if not um um if not by the end of
the year, it'll be in January. Uh, and
[1:35:48] so
during that time, you can then kind of
[1:35:53] make a strategic decision about what you
might want to do with that as well as
[1:35:56] the other vacant property that's also in
the master plan.
[1:36:01] » Yeah. Are you're talking about the uh
geese lot,
[1:36:05] » correct?
>> Okay.
[1:36:13] » Okay. Next up then is management
monitoring reports. Chris, do you have
[1:36:17] anything else?
>> Uh, I don't other than uh uh what you
[1:36:23] have in my report other than uh uh
Travis did start yesterday. So, you you
[1:36:29] you actually do have a new mic. Uh uh he
had a commitment today. Um so, I did
[1:36:35] excuse him. I also didn't want to feed
him to the Lions just quite yet uh on
[1:36:39] his second day. And um he was uh
amenable to u that period of grace. So,
[1:36:47] uh I I think um so he's he's gotten to
have a little facility tour um on
[1:36:54] boarded with Michelle a little bit and
then I'll um I'll be talking to him
[1:37:00] later this week and we'll get him up and
running and then you all can go after
[1:37:06] him in the next meeting. But so anyway,
I think uh we're very excited to have
[1:37:11] him. um staff uh has really enjoyed um
um the opportunity to get to know him
[1:37:18] and I think we're only going to be uh
more and more pleased as he grows into
[1:37:22] the role. But I will tell you this, I do
want you all to have some you're going
[1:37:28] to he's not going to have the
institutional memory that Mike did and
[1:37:33] you're going to have to give him time.
But um Mike's also uh been gracious
[1:37:38] enough uh I did sign an agreement with
him just so he could be on call to help
[1:37:44] Travis uh on board and with questions as
he's as he's getting um his feet wet.
[1:37:50] So, but we're we're excited to have him
and uh and uh I think you're going to be
[1:37:54] very pleased with him long term. That's
all I have. Thank you, ma'am.
[1:38:01] » Corey, do you want to go now?
>> Sure.
[1:38:05] So, I do have one thing and that is more
of a trying to get direction on your
[1:38:11] municipal judge. So, um the municipal
judge has not been here in quite some
[1:38:16] time to to visit with the board. Um but
his term has long since um his initial
[1:38:23] term has expired. Um, and really you're
at the point where the new board
[1:38:29] following the November election can
certainly uh consider what to do with
[1:38:35] the municipal judge and start from
scratch. Um, but I wanted to at least
[1:38:40] raise the issue with you because if
there was a desire to um and and there's
[1:38:46] no need to have any any decisions
tonight. This is more to sort of alert
[1:38:49] you that this issue is out there.
There's two ways to do it. One is to
[1:38:53] just wait until the the new board is
elected and have them decide. The other
[1:38:59] thing if is if there's any issues or
concerns, you could always start the
[1:39:04] process. The judge could apply as well
and you could have it teed up for the
[1:39:08] new board. Um, so it is entirely up to
the board how to proceed, but you know,
[1:39:14] I wanted to at least raise the issue
that that it is something that's hanging
[1:39:18] out there.
[1:39:23] Thank you. Does anybody have any
questions about that?
[1:39:27] » I think it should be on next agenda.
>> I think it should be on a later agenda
[1:39:32] for us to talk about.
[1:39:36] » Everybody okay with that?
>> Yes.
[1:39:38] » Yeah. Okay.
[1:39:44] » Chief, do you have anything else for us?
[1:39:49] Well, well, I do have one point, madame
mayor, mayor, and pretend members of the
[1:39:53] board is that uh in your monitoring
report, it's discussed about an
[1:39:58] investigation that our IAK task force is
working with the FBI. An arrest was made
[1:40:03] early this afternoon. Um, it was made
with not only the FBI, but the
[1:40:10] Homeland Security Investigations, the
Greley Police Department, and the Weld
[1:40:14] County Sheriff's Office.
[1:40:19] and obviously the town of Elizabeth. So,
[1:40:25] » any questions for Chief?
[1:40:32] You're off the hook easy tonight. Alex,
do you have anything for us? Um, I just
[1:40:37] wanted to add that I do have the
schedule for uh Saturday's barbecue
[1:40:42] volunteer
um schedule uh ready for you guys. I'll
[1:40:47] send that out after the meeting tonight.
Um, just a quick overview. I have the
[1:40:53] mayor and mayor prom first up on um
volunteering for the ID checks at the
[1:40:59] beginning from 11:30 to 1:00 and then
you're off the hook for the rest of the
[1:41:04] event and you can enjoy yourselves.
Staff will cover the ID checks for the
[1:41:09] remainder of the event. Um and then we
will have um the rest of you um that are
[1:41:15] there help with cleanup.
So I have Yeah. And I I'll have uh I'll
[1:41:23] have it set aside on on the um the
document that I send over just what
[1:41:27] we're cleaning up. Um so you know and so
you don't you can just start once pe
[1:41:33] once the participant the guests have
left um we can clean up and get it um
[1:41:39] all set aside. And mainly it's just
putting away the tables and chairs that
[1:41:45] we will have rented down on the park. um
taking tablecloths off, setting up
[1:41:50] chairs and tables and stacking them off
to the side. Um so other than that,
[1:41:55] it'll be I think an enjoyable event for
you all. Um just need about an hour, an
[1:42:00] hour and a half of your time um spread
throughout. So um if you have any
[1:42:04] questions, feel free to reach out to me
or Michelle, but we'll see you down at
[1:42:08] the park um around 11:30 um that
morning. Are we having one entrance into
[1:42:15] the park like they did for the Brewfest
or we having two entrances?
[1:42:18] » Two entrances
>> at each end. Okay. One at each end.
[1:42:21] Okay.
>> Yeah. We're not um we don't have to have
[1:42:24] that fencing like like they had like
they needed at the Brewfest. So, we'll
[1:42:27] have same setup like it they do at
Friday night market. So, we'll have
[1:42:31] north side, south side. We'll have
ticket sales um on each side too um that
[1:42:38] staff will be doing. So, um yeah, I I
anticipate it being busy from 12 to 2
[1:42:44] and then tampering off as um the next
two hours there. So, yeah, should be a
[1:42:50] good event. Please get the word out. Um
I think we're going to we haven't had a
[1:42:54] lot of pre-sale tickets. Um so, I
anticipate there being a lot of walk-ins
[1:43:01] um getting, you know, getting those
tickets. So yeah, get the word out um if
[1:43:06] you can and yeah, hope hope to be a good
event.
[1:43:14] » I will not be there.
>> Okay,
[1:43:17] » I will be handling for Brandon at the
hardware store. He is having some family
[1:43:21] deals and he needs some help and so I
will be covering the store.
[1:43:27] » Any questions or comments for Alex?
James.
[1:43:33] » I I don't have anything to add if I'm
open to any questions.
[1:43:40] » Um, are they
on schedule
[1:43:47] in Hillside?
Um, you know, in terms of their
[1:43:52] construction and and their plan, how
it's going. Um because
[1:44:02] it just seems like
it's not moving very fast. I know it is.
[1:44:08] I know you've had a lot of concrete
curbs and sidewalk that you've had to
[1:44:16] replace and
um you know that's resulted in the
[1:44:22] problem of the sidewalk not meeting the
end of the road. So there's gaps
[1:44:29] um that really you can't drive over.
Well, I probably could, but it wouldn't
[1:44:35] be good for my car. Um
so is that, you know, is that on
[1:44:43] schedule? Are we getting behind on any
of that or
[1:44:48] » That's a good question. Thank you. And
that yes, I mean, as far as what's going
[1:44:51] on, as it was previously mentioned
before the project started, there are
[1:44:56] soil conditions in there that we are not
aware of. And so, as we're going
[1:44:59] through, we're finding some of those
areas. And so, we're correcting those
[1:45:02] issues. And that does cause some delay
in, you know, setting the forms and
[1:45:07] pouring concrete and things of that
nature. But there as far as where they
[1:45:12] started back at Amanda Court and making
their way down Rushmore and you know
[1:45:17] getting down especially uh down near
Liberty and you know in those areas.
[1:45:23] Yes, we are moving and and we are still
ahead of schedule as far as um contract
[1:45:28] end date is December 15th if I'm
correct. So we are still well in into
[1:45:33] schedule. We're still navigating
uh you know with with the residents as
[1:45:38] far as like getting them in and out and
the tight scenario that we're dealing
[1:45:42] with. Um and then we're getting into
areas when we get on to Logan and
[1:45:46] especially in Lionel when we finally get
in there and start, you know, opening
[1:45:51] that ground up. We do have some sewer um
work that will have to be done and that
[1:45:57] that's very time sensitive. So when we
we really get into that phase, um that's
[1:46:02] really when it's going to get kind of
tight and kind of crazy, but it's
[1:46:05] because you can't be without services.
So when we open it up to to do it that
[1:46:10] day, we have to set and go. Um and so we
have weekly updates. I have I have a I
[1:46:17] have a meeting tomorrow morning to go
over some of the issues uh and progress
[1:46:20] as well, but I think we're I think we're
handling it pretty well.
[1:46:26] And I just I'm seeing progress.
I'm seeing new curb and gutter. I'm
[1:46:35] seeing the old road deteriorate
even faster
[1:46:41] it seems. Um,
and it's just, uh, I still have a
[1:46:47] concern about
how are they going to handle
[1:46:52] um, when they're paving and doing any of
the work around the mail kiosk cuz it's
[1:46:58] kind of like right in the middle.
It's not
[1:47:04] if you don't have you got to be able to
get to the mail kiosk. And I I just want
[1:47:10] to make sure that that's on their mind
and that they're aware of it because
[1:47:16] people need to get their mail.
>> Correct. Yeah. And it's a concern. It is
[1:47:21] a concern of ours
>> and as we approach that then we'll
[1:47:25] better identify a plan and there again
it's going to be kind of extra hands on
[1:47:30] deck to make sure because a lot of the
tie-in that goes around that little
[1:47:34] structure has to be done with smaller
equipment and it has to be kind of a
[1:47:38] followup. Um the majority of the the
surrounding area can be done with the
[1:47:44] larger machines and then you get closer
and you have smaller equipment and a lot
[1:47:47] of hand work but it is a concern.
[1:47:53] » And then what
uh what are we looking at the time frame
[1:47:59] for when we actually start on
uh the park and those
[1:48:05] » That's a that's a good question too. So
the the park itself as a whole is
[1:48:10] actually a secondary and you'll see that
once Logan has been completed through
[1:48:14] that stretch
>> and it's actually serviceable and then
[1:48:18] that's when you'll start to see a lot of
the what's called grubbing and clearing
[1:48:21] and removing of the old equipment and
soils and things of that nature. It just
[1:48:26] doesn't make sense now to bring in
another crew and stack on top of traffic
[1:48:30] because then it really comes down to
basically a walking lane because it's so
[1:48:34] narrow through there,
>> right? I mean, it's it's it's extremely
[1:48:38] tight and um I' I've you know, daily I
have conversations with residents with
[1:48:43] different concerns and and we see it. We
do and we're handling it accordingly, I
[1:48:48] believe.
>> And I just, you know, that's as much for
[1:48:54] my own edification as as anything else.
Um,
[1:49:01] another question that
I have for you is I just want to make
[1:49:08] sure
that we'll be fixing the intersection at
[1:49:15] Elbert
and Logan.
[1:49:19] » Logan.
>> Yeah. Cuz it's
[1:49:22] » Yes.
>> You know, it's like a four-wheel drive
[1:49:24] experience.
>> Um, whenever you go.
[1:49:28] » That was that was actually a
conversation last week and I I reviewed
[1:49:32] the design plan uh last week just to
make sure that what'll happen especially
[1:49:37] on the entry from that into the
neighborhood there is a reinforced
[1:49:42] concrete uh drive pan that goes in there
to connect into the uh the new asphalt.
[1:49:49] we won't have asphalt on asphalt there
because we have so much weathering from
[1:49:54] the water and snow and that's always
been a point of contention. But on the
[1:49:58] other three sides as well, we're cutting
back on that and blending it in. So
[1:50:04] every transition at that four-way will
be smooth.
[1:50:09] » Okay. Thank you.
Then I had another question for you and
[1:50:14] it's actually doesn't have anything to
do with Hillside. Um,
[1:50:20] it's about mowing and weeds.
>> Mhm.
[1:50:24] » Um, because down on Main Street, where
Main Street Station is supposed to go,
[1:50:31] we've got some seriously
tall weeds. And we don't own that land.
[1:50:39] It It's It's private owned. Are we not
making the land owner
[1:50:48] mow to get rid of the weeds? Certainly,
if nothing else and for, you know,
[1:50:55] wildfire
mitigation.
[1:50:59] Um, when we're looking at where it is,
it it's cuz I'm having a hard time with
[1:51:08] certainly down there in that area. Uh if
we're coming down hard on residents to
[1:51:17] mow areas that they don't own, that the
town owns, and we're telling them they
[1:51:24] have to mow it, and yet we're not
requiring,
[1:51:28] you know, the Main Street Station people
to do some basic mowing on their
[1:51:33] property to get rid of their 8-ft tall
sisle
[1:51:37] um and
other things that they of going on
[1:51:42] there. I I just What are we doing about
that? And um
[1:51:49] cuz it's becoming a problem the way I
see it.
[1:51:54] » No, I'm happy to answer that. So in in
the past years um the uh enforcement has
[1:52:02] no what happens traditionally is they
get a first notice and then they get a
[1:52:06] second and before the third is issued
the land owner actually then hire
[1:52:10] someone out to come out and mow it and
that's when the big fine comes in. And
[1:52:16] for something that size, it's not just a
normal fine. It's a, you know, it's a
[1:52:20] commercial fine. And so that's when
they're like, "Okay, well, it's cheaper
[1:52:23] for me to hire somebody to come in and
brush hog it and take care of it." Um,
[1:52:30] I I don't have the easy answer for you.
I just know that enforcement is involved
[1:52:34] with it. I don't know what stage that
is, but I mean, we can look into it and
[1:52:39] see if we can rectify it some more.
I I and it's so visible.
[1:52:46] » Absolutely.
>> Um you know you and a lot of people like
[1:52:50] this weekend come down to the park again
for these other events and
[1:52:57] here's welcome to our
special weed field that we have. I well
[1:53:03] it I could add too that we have to be
careful um that you know if we're we're
[1:53:09] in the too dry a condition there's
always unseen hazard in there and I know
[1:53:14] certain individuals that have found
things out in that field that uh could
[1:53:20] cause spark and could could cause fire.
We've had some moisture and even in our
[1:53:26] own efforts of going out and doing other
maintenance with curb lines and parks
[1:53:30] and things of that nature and easements
that started to uptick a little bit. But
[1:53:34] we have to be cautious of that as well
cuz that being so close to residential
[1:53:40] homes right there, that's a big field
and once that goes up, if it sparks up
[1:53:45] and the way we've had wind, that's
that's a bad scenario all the way
[1:53:48] around.
If if I could add, we'll we'll we'll
[1:53:52] contact the owner and we'll have code
enforcement um take a look at it and
[1:53:56] we'll we'll get on it.
>> All right. Thank you.
[1:54:03] » I actually got one more thing and
actually this is about Hillside. I I am
[1:54:10] terribly troubled that we have actually
had people in Hillside
[1:54:15] um that have accosted
the construction workers and
[1:54:22] threatened them or whatever it is that
they've done and um I hope that
[1:54:30] has decreased or and stopped happening.
Um, I
[1:54:38] have not witnessed it, but I also live
in a different area of the development
[1:54:45] for where it's really tight and it's
hard for people to get in and out and
[1:54:51] just that
um I know the police are aware of it. I
[1:54:58] think you said Chris um and
just that I
[1:55:05] certainly hope we're encouraging people
if they're
[1:55:10] hacked off about something to talk to
the appropriate people and do not
[1:55:15] take it out on the construction workers
that are just there.
[1:55:19] » Yeah, I would encourage your neighbors
to to to call me and and tell me I'm
[1:55:24] horrible. I'll I'll be more than willing
to have those discussions, but it
[1:55:29] certainly shouldn't be the guy that's
got a reflective vest on that's just
[1:55:33] trying to do the job. So, the chief is
uh already uh aware of it. Um stepping
[1:55:39] up uh some controls and then we've also
talked with the contractor and said,
[1:55:42] "Hey, note people's identities and if
you if you can and if you get a license
[1:55:47] plate, we're we're going to go after
those folks." So, um it is unacceptable.
[1:55:52] I was terribly
um I just I was disgusted when I heard
[1:55:58] some of the stories and uh no contractor
I I don't I don't care how you feel
[1:56:03] about the situation
um should have to be threatened on a on
[1:56:09] a project. So, we're we're going to get
very aggressive and we've made it clear
[1:56:13] to the contractor, please let us know we
don't think it's acceptable and we will
[1:56:18] back you up on making sure that we're um
enforcing a a decency and code of
[1:56:24] conduct there. So, we're we're working
on it. I just thought the only reason I
[1:56:29] included it in my report is I thought it
was important for you all to know that
[1:56:32] that was happening. Um and and I get the
frustration. I get that it's
[1:56:36] inconvenient, but there is a limit to
what um those folks should have to deal
[1:56:41] with, and having to dodge a car that's
trying to hit them is is beyond the pale
[1:56:46] in my opinion, but we're on it. So,
>> thank you.
[1:56:51] » That's not the only neighborhood. I
talked to the the fire chief here a
[1:56:55] while back when they had the fire out
the Gold Creek. He was amazed at some of
[1:57:01] the people that he encountered out there
and he was trying to help him and they
[1:57:07] was not kind to him.
So, it's not only your neighborhood.
[1:57:16] » Alex, I do have one question for you on
the facade grant program. How do how do
[1:57:24] you get the word out to property owners
about that program each year? Um, how do
[1:57:31] you get that to each and all eligible
properties?
[1:57:35] » Yeah. So, we send an email out to all of
the property owner email addresses that
[1:57:40] we have. Um, and then we put it in the
newsletter. Um, email addresses for the
[1:57:45] property owners that are within the
boundary for the facade grant. Then we
[1:57:49] sent put it in the newsletter. Um, and
we also send it out to all of the
[1:57:56] property owners that are on our local
historic register because you can either
[1:58:00] be in within the downtown main street
boundary. I say downtown because it's
[1:58:05] also part portion of 86. Um, and then
also if you are a local historic
[1:58:12] registered property, so we we get it out
by that and then those that we miss by
[1:58:18] email, we put it in the newsletter.
Thank you,
[1:58:25] Michelle.
Mayor, Mayor Prom, board members, I do
[1:58:29] have a couple of things. Um, first, we
did get six petitions turned in for the
[1:58:36] open seats. All six are sufficient. Um I
have sent notification out to those
[1:58:42] people today. So I can't I'm not going
to announce who they are until um next
[1:58:46] week because we have on Monday we do a
drawing for the order of the ballot. Um
[1:58:53] so after that I will post it. I will
notify um for that. Um then I wanted to
[1:59:01] show you these are the new senior bags.
We have old ones still so we'll mix
[1:59:04] them. But those are the ones um and
those are our sponsors. So they paid for
[1:59:08] half of them. So I thought that worked
out pretty well. Um
[1:59:14] I have um I'm going to ask about
direction from the board. Um,
[1:59:21] we have only right now our policy,
it's not necessarily in writing writing,
[1:59:27] but it's been discussed that at the
Geeseon lot in the once parking spot for
[1:59:31] the food trucks that we only allow them
to do once a week or randomly, maybe if
[1:59:38] they need a second one. But I have um
one of the trucks asking to do a Friday
[1:59:44] and a Sunday. And I wanted to find out
what the board felt about that. Um cuz
[1:59:49] those are kind of the two and it would
be like an all day thing. Um not just a
[1:59:54] few hours or something. Um and the we
have two trucks right now that are that
[2:00:00] have license or you know permits to be
there. Um and they are up at the end of
[2:00:05] October. So um I just kind of wanted to
be able to get back to this food truck
[2:00:11] on that.
[2:00:14] Do we typically have competition for
those two days?
[2:00:19] » Just between these two groups on the
these two trucks,
[2:00:24] » but I don't even know if the other truck
I can find out. I don't know if they're
[2:00:28] even still up and running.
>> Okay.
[2:00:31] » I haven't really noticed them down there
on Fridays.
[2:00:35] » Okay. Um
[2:00:40] I think it's
okay if I mean um
[2:00:48] if they're the first one to apply.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um, but you know,
[2:00:58] » um, then the only other thing I had is,
um, for at the barbecue, and I forgot to
[2:01:04] talk to you about it, Alex, but I just
thought I didn't know if the board cuz I
[2:01:08] didn't know if you were going to do the
boo bash if whatever happens because you
[2:01:12] didn't seem really enthusiastic when we
brought it up, but um, and you have
[2:01:16] plenty of it. If you just wanted to put
a couple of boxes with your older swag
[2:01:20] in it, just just set out. Not that you
have to sit and hand it out, but if you
[2:01:25] wanted that. Um, I think we weren't, at
least for me, I wasn't excited about it
[2:01:30] because
they weren't getting back to I I got a
[2:01:36] hold of Mary and she um because I had
somebody who wants to be a vendor at
[2:01:43] that and um
I talked to them this weekend and they
[2:01:49] did get a call back from her after I
spoke to her. So, it sounds like it is
[2:01:54] going to go forward. Um, I think
I think we should be there as a board.
[2:02:03] It is a big event.
>> Boo bash.
[2:02:06] » Boo bash.
>> It's huge.
[2:02:08] » Um,
>> is huge.
[2:02:09] » But yeah, not really knowing where
things stood and and
[2:02:16] I had multiple people telling me I can't
get a hold of her. are, you know, who's
[2:02:21] doing this? Are is it even going to
still happen?
[2:02:25] » So, anyway,
>> but I did get a hold of her this last
[2:02:29] week. So,
>> just just the board's aware that their
[2:02:33] website is back up, but there are no
events.
[2:02:36] » Yep.
>> There's nothing.
[2:02:39] » But,
>> yeah, those pages aren't existing right
[2:02:42] now.
>> Yeah, I looked at it over the weekend.
[2:02:46] So, do you want to put some of your old
through swag out and just in a box or
[2:02:52] anything by the at the barbecue? Um,
[2:03:00] » sure. If we have it.
Yeah,
[2:03:05] » that's all I have unless anybody has any
questions. Any questions for Michelle?
[2:03:11] Um
just on the email about dates for the
[2:03:16] budget workshop.
>> Um the 12th is the first responders
[2:03:23] event. So I'm going to be tied up with
that.
[2:03:26] Um the 19th I could do
and the 26th I could do.
[2:03:33] » Sorry I didn't get that email back to
you.
[2:03:35] » Thank you.
Yeah, I think the fact that the
[2:03:40] um the 12th is the first responders
chili cookoff thing that
[2:03:47] um that would not be an optimal time for
us to
[2:03:53] » be having some chili
[2:03:59] » the work session a little quicker
>> blow it'll blow the doors off this Nice.
[2:04:12] » Any other questions or comments for
Michelle?
[2:04:18] » Then next up is board of trustee
reports. Lauren, do you have anything?
[2:04:24] » I do. Um, I would like to apologize to a
couple people about some comments I've
[2:04:31] made in public meeting.
[2:04:42] Tracy, I don't have anything.
[2:04:48] Mike,
[2:04:51] » um I have a few. So
this uh question
[2:04:58] comes down um both for you Chris and um
for you as well James.
[2:05:05] The lights that we currently have on
Main Street. Um
[2:05:11] we've lost another one which I'm sure
you're aware of in front of um the
[2:05:15] incident happened right in front of uh
Ry's antique shop.
[2:05:20] That's two that we've lost since they
were installed. My question for both of
[2:05:27] you is,
is there a consideration of
[2:05:33] taking those street lights
and the thought is reversing them,
[2:05:41] spinning them around on their poles, if
that's even possible, so the light is
[2:05:45] now hanging over the sidewalk and not
over a parking spot.
[2:05:50] So, yes, that's been a discussion and
and it's not a it's not a 180°ree turn.
[2:05:56] It would be a 90 degree turn um simply
due to the fact that you have your
[2:06:01] banners and the banners actually sit
lower than the lights.
[2:06:04] » Right. But those are not bolted to the
pole.
[2:06:08] » No, but they they do cause damage if
they are twisted.
[2:06:12] » But they're strapped to the pole.
Correct. They are strapped to the pole,
[2:06:16] but you have to understand that the the
material that that the poles are
[2:06:19] constructed of are not uh solid steel.
They're comp they're
[2:06:24] » in layman's terms, they're they're a pot
metal.
[2:06:27] » Yeah.
>> Right. So they're not they're not very
[2:06:29] » No, it's it's a much cheaper grade of
metal, but it's
[2:06:32] » and so that the discussion has been to
turn them 90° in one direction.
[2:06:36] » Sure.
>> Um
[2:06:37] » so they're not hanging over a parking
>> correct. Uh and so you know that that
[2:06:43] will be something that um will come up
here very soon uh in discussion. We want
[2:06:51] to look at it. I actually h have been
talking to the electrical contractor
[2:06:54] that wired them.
>> Good.
[2:06:56] » Have to make sure that we have enough
wire loop inside of those posts.
[2:06:59] » Service loop. Yeah.
>> To do it.
[2:07:02] » Um
and if we do, then it's a just a matter
[2:07:06] of which direction do you want them to
face
[2:07:08] » aesthetically. Right.
>> Right. So, um, no, it's we're very aware
[2:07:13] and the and and the culprits are the big
moving box trucks and
[2:07:17] » Yeah. that are 13 ft in height.
>> They just don't they don't think about
[2:07:20] it and they turn in and back up to them
or run into them on, you know, going
[2:07:26] forward.
>> Yeah. Whether they're parallel parking
[2:07:28] in some fashion where they back in or if
they come in
[2:07:31] » at first.
>> Um, good. I'm glad that that is on your
[2:07:35] radar then, James. Thank you. Um, next,
um, and this also, um, ties in with Main
[2:07:42] Street. Um,
[2:07:46] with the hail event that we had, uh, on
a Friday, um, it was brought to my
[2:07:53] attention that Brooke again took water
um, into his building. Um, he had to
[2:08:00] sandbag his doors obviously to try and
keep as much of it out. Um he then took
[2:08:04] it upon himself to go and um clear and
open those drains that are in the gravel
[2:08:11] portion, you know, underneath their
railing. I guess the the question is is
[2:08:17] has Brooke brought that to anybody's
attention to you, Chris, um or to you,
[2:08:24] James, as far as town goes? He hasn't
said a word. Okay. Just just trying to
[2:08:29] find out. Um he's a very amicable guy,
but
[2:08:33] uh I know that
Main Street's
[2:08:38] buildout and the way it came to
fruition, obviously there's
[2:08:44] still an issue, especially when we take
on that kind of level of of water and
[2:08:49] especially when it's a hail event. So
clogs up all the drains, the water can't
[2:08:54] get through there. There really may may
not be um much of an alternative there.
[2:08:59] Um,
next thing I'd like to ask, um, what is
[2:09:06] the town's
response
[2:09:10] to squatters
in people's homes within town? Do we
[2:09:17] have anything that addresses that or
not? That's strictly a private matter.
[2:09:21] Okay. Um, Chief, I just noticed and I
don't know if it was even brought to the
[2:09:27] Summit Capital. I believe they're the
owners of 676 South Banner. Um that's a
[2:09:33] foreclosed property. To my
understanding, uh former own occupants
[2:09:38] were Torrance. Um and one day when I was
walking by there, the back door was wide
[2:09:42] open. It appears that somebody's living
in the basement. Um I don't think that's
[2:09:46] the case anymore. And obviously maybe
Summit's already addressed that. So I
[2:09:49] just don't know if I didn't know if the
town had any any say in squatters or or
[2:09:54] anything like that. So I I will leave it
at that.
[2:10:06] Steve, did you have anything?
>> Not tonight.
[2:10:13] » Did you have more to say, Lauren?
>> No, I do not.
[2:10:17] » Okay. Um, I went to a core lunchon on
Thursday and they talked about um
[2:10:29] that the big solar farm that's out on
the Kya Bennett road that is providing
[2:10:34] power for core and they're um right next
to it they will also be putting up um a
[2:10:43] battery storage field and again that is
um servicing
[2:10:48] core. I know that it had been out there
that all that was for Excel, but core is
[2:10:56] a recipient of a bunch of that power and
just the various things they're trying
[2:11:03] to do to help keep costs down for um
those of us that are in the core service
[2:11:11] area. Um and
um
[2:11:18] that um
they do have some energy saving
[2:11:23] programs. if you have air conditioning
and you have a programmable
[2:11:28] remote uh thermostat that they can tap
into and they can adjust your air
[2:11:34] conditioning for various times of the
day and kick it up a little bit which
[2:11:39] will help save you during the peak
hours. Um anyway, but they are
[2:11:48] um very active in our community and
um they also want everyone to be aware
[2:11:57] that if data centers are proposed in
their service area that they because I
[2:12:06] know this is a hot topic right now all
across the country that they require the
[2:12:13] data centers
to build their own electrical facilities
[2:12:19] to have enough power generation so as to
not be pulling from uh the normal grid.
[2:12:29] um and so as to not create increases to
everyone else's power costs because they
[2:12:38] require the facilities to um build and
supply the power for their facilities.
[2:12:45] So anyway, those are just a couple of
hot button things that um uh their
[2:12:53] representative was um talking about to
let people know about. Um, and other
[2:13:00] than that, that's all I've got. Next up
is
[2:13:06] minutes of the Main Street Board of
Directors meeting of March 9th, uh,
[2:13:12] April 6th and July 13th, and minutes of
the planning commission meeting of March
[2:13:17] 9th, 2026. Any questions?
>> No.
[2:13:21] » Nope.
Then
[2:13:26] I'm going to make a motion to close the
regular meeting and open the executive
[2:13:33] session at 9:12 p.m. to determine
positions relative to matters that may
[2:13:39] be subject to ne negotiations,
develop a strategy for negotiations
[2:13:44] and/or instruct negotiators pursuant to
CRS subsection 24-6-424E
[2:13:54] regarding finalists for the town
administrator position.
[2:13:58] » I'll second it. I've got a motion and a
second to close the regular meeting and
[2:14:05] open the executive session.
All those in favor, please say I.
[2:14:11] » I.
>> All those opposed, please say nay.
[2:14:14] » That passes unanimously.
>> I just want just want to note for the
[2:14:19] record that there is an agenda item
after the executive session. So, it is
[2:14:23] possible the board could reconvene for a
final ma for a final action item. Thank
[2:14:28] you.
[2:14:33] » Chief and Chris are still out there.
[2:14:42] » We're back on the record.
>> Okay.
[2:14:45] » And I would note this is item 17 on the
agenda, I believe.
[2:14:50] » Yes. Discussion and possible action on
an agreement with the new town
[2:14:53] administrator.
Um, I will make a motion to approve the
[2:15:00] employment agreement between the town of
Elizabeth and Finley Degraphen Reed.
[2:15:08] » I'll second it.
>> Effective October 5th.
[2:15:11] » Effective October 5th.
All those in favor, please say I.
[2:15:16] » I. I.
>> All those opposed, please say nay.
[2:15:20] » That passes unanimously.
I move to adjourn.
[2:15:25] » Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to
[2:15:28] adjurnn. All those in favor, please say
I.
[2:15:31] » I.
>> All those opposed, please say nay.
[2:15:34] » That passes unanimously. Thank you,
Michelle.
[2:15:38] You're welcome.