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>> Everyone, um, welcome to the Ellis

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County, um, Tuesday, September 8th,
2026.

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Um,
if we could please stand for the pledge

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of
>> allegiance.

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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Hey, Bobby could call roll please.
>> Commissioner Nathan Ler

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» here. Chair Neil younger
>> present.

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» Commissioner Michael Burgess
>> here.

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» We have a quorum.
>> Okay.

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All right. Prior minutes. Everybody have
a chance for look at them? Everything?

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» Yes.
>> Good. Okay.

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And the consent agenda.
>> All move we approve consent agenda items

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A through G.
>> Second.

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» Okay. We have a motion and a second. And
all those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» Opposed. Same sign.

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» Okay. Issues from people not on the
order of business.

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» You're going to talk on the budget,
right?

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Yeah. That'll be that'll be later.

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» Yeah.
>> Part of it.

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» Yeah.
>> You got other concerns?

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» If you got other concerns,

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parts.
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[clears throat and cough]
I put in my schedule. So, [laughter]

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» okay. Mike Worth, 605 200th Avenue.
Um, I guess I'm going to skip over the

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the budget stuff, but I am going to ask
some questions about the IBV.

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Um,
I guess the one question is, uh, did IBB

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technically start construction of
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passed just to secure the grant. Just
trying to get a timeline down.

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I'll bring that up later. I I I did read
through some minutes and um it showed

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that our our environmental Ellis County
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attended a meeting for the BSS
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system.
Now, it's my impression that the solar

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farm is not supposed to have battery
storage. So, I'm just putting a red flag

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that kind of caught my eye. you know,
maybe this is routine. Don't know. Um,

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but
that that was kind of about it with the

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uh IBVB for now. I've already talked to
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lawsuits uh with IBB, so he can discuss
that with the other commissioners. I

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will bring the rest of it up when you
start the budget. Okay.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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Okay. The monthly financial report.

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» I saw no problems.
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» No problems.

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Commissioner Younger, if I may ask um
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business, but Emily with Emily Nolles
with the October Fest would like to be

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added
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week. and if we could add her to maybe
number seven after the public hearing

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for the budget and everything. Uh she
wants to visit with the uh the waste

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waving the fees of the the land landfill
for the waste that they have during the

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October fest.
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» Yeah. after after the public hearing and
the budget and everything so that way we

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don't push that back.
>> Do we have an executive session?

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» Yes, sir. One executive session.

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Okay.
Revenue neutral rate. Darren.

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Morning, commissioners. Darren Myers,
county administrator. Um your process

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this morning for the budget comes to a
conclusion as we uh need to hold the

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public hearing for both the revenue
neutral rate exceeding the revenue

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neutral rate as well as the the public
hearing for the budget itself. Both of

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those hearings can be combined as one
which is what that we made the

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notifications for through the county
clerk and the newsletter newspaper and

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our website and um to [clears throat]
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hearing. The motions are in front of you
to have that so that way you can open up

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u input from the community for those
that wish to speak. And if you have any

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other questions on the budget, um
nothing's changed since our last meeting

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when the commissioner did review it, but
if you have any questions or any

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clarifications, I'd be happy to answer
them for you. Okay.

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» Okay. Well, I guess with that, I would
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intention of exceeding the revenue
neutral rate and 2027 Ellis County

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budgets. Second.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

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This is a roll call vote, correct?
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» you have to
>> afterwards when you approve it, right?

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» That's right. Okay. Just so public
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» so we can all do an I on this one.
>> Okay. All those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Okay. I motion approved.

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» Okay.
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» Public hearing.
>> Anyone?

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» Go ahead.
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All right. 2027 budget questions
um for you guys to

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navigate the year revenue neutral rates.
I mean I went through most your budget.

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It looked like very few of your
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kind of toned down and and I guess you
know you got to keep those salaries

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those those normal annual salaries
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I I guess that's why it seems like the
the department that has a lot of

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diesel oil and stuff like that and not
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got kind of whacked. Uh the road and
bridge took a big cut.

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I'm going to go back to
something that I had a question about

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the last time that I was up here.
Why is a Grow Hayes guy participating in

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your meeting? Well, once I went through
the budget, I could see why.

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Uh you guys have went from $23,000 in
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annually.
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what is Ellis County
what are they getting by incorporating

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this money into the grow haze? I mean
grow haze is incorporated is am I

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correct or is it or is it not? It
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I I guess I'm just trying to feel out. I
said why is the county dumping money

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into this? Yeah. I mean, it's kind of
it's a city issue, not a county issue.

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And and and you guys have everybody else
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And I mean, there's a lot of them on
that list that have been cut for the

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last two years, but their number has
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In connection with that,

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the pilot payment,

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I am not educated enough on that and I'd
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or or administrator
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because that's a ton of money going into
this thing. And there again, I don't

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know what is the county getting out of
this. I gota ask specifically which

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pilot payment are you going to refer to?
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of blank slate on your budget. So I
don't know what it refer it's like

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$800,000.
>> So I I mean I'm just trying to trying to

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decipher which
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» the wind farms.
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» Okay. That's and that's, you know,
that's it's it's kind of nice to

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[clears throat] try to try to uh
interpret your budget sometimes because

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sometimes it just goes right over my
head. So, um I mean I I guess you know

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with the road and bridge cut I I kind of
see what you're you guys are really

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banking on the IBV to come in
with their road agreement to bring that

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back up to straight.
Uh but that's that's a hell of a cut for

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those guys. So,
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» Mike, let me let me address the the road
and bridge department. And yes, it's

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it's a cut. Uh, the reason you're seeing
that cut is it align it's going to align

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more with what's true. Uh, for the past
three or four years, Road and Bridge has

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had a budget surplus uh, at the end of
the year that they've carried over. So

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we felt that it was we were able to
bring that number down so we wouldn't

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have to tax for that. So it it brings it
more in line with what's actually being

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utilized at Road and Bridge.
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sense because I you know just looking
over every other department. It's like

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» yeah. So it was it was a very big cut
but it kind of tr it up to what the the

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real budget is with road and bridge and
uh it doesn't have any fluff in there.

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So, we're not going to be cutting
services. We're not cutting any of the

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plans for asphalt or bridge. None of
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should not be affected, but uh it gets
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>> It levels it back out.

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» Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, it just it's
it's just hard to with your normal

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increases in salary for you guys to
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pretty well matched it up. So that's
pretty tough to do unless somebody gets

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whacked. So
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going to uh feel some of this because we
are deferring and moving some of the pay

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adjustments that would have taken place
in January. Those are being shifted. Uh

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so the employees are helping uh do this
and accommodate this for keeping a level

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budget as best we can.
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» and Mike, the uh same thing you were
asking before earlier this morning. All

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that stuff is recorded. You were
wondering where the 800,000 went. If you

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follow the minutes, it's it's stated.
You just got to keep digging.

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» Our administrator [laughter]
puts it out there really good. So,

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» well, I just kind of went through the
budget and it's kind of

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» a little vague. So, you just kind of
>> grow haze one.

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» Yeah.
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without the city of Hayes, Ellis County
couldn't survive. the same thing without

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Ellis County.
>> You can survive. You just have to quit

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spending. [laughter]
>> It it brings people in. Um you know,

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[clears throat] so it's tax generated
deal. Also, everybody buys a little

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something, another person and family
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goes to school. Um it all it all goes to
good cause.

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I mean,
there's such thing as a good cause, but

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when everybody else is having to suck
down and tighten up

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and I just don't see this from the
county. I mean, you guys have I see

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where you need to keep your salaries up.
You need to keep them competitive just

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to keep them your workforce.
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to me, that's that's just an extra.
You're just throwing her out there.

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I I [clears throat]

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just say I don't I don't see
where you're getting anything out of

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this. I really don't. I I maybe I'm
looking at the little picture and I need

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to look at a big picture. But um when
everybody else is having to really

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tighten up just to survive
with increases in taxes,

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things like these
like this needs we need we need you need

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to look this stuff over. I mean I mean I
they were budgeted at a lot less.

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So cut it
cut it in half and when it gets better,

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you can take it back up again.
Everybody else has got to do this right

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now. Why shouldn't the county?
And I mean I mean we're Ellis County, I

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mean we're kind of the
we got a lot of shiny stuff out there.

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fire department. You You are Everybody
in the in the state looks at our at our

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Ellis County Fire Department and it's
like, "Wow,

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it helps that Darren, you're you know,
you're the administrator right now."

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That helps. You know, you're the budget
stays up. But I was a volunteer and I

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know what we started with before you got
on. I know exactly what and yes, we had

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to make improvements,
but wow, we're getting up there. So,

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everybody needs to take a little cut.
So,

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» when uh when you're done, I'll ask there
is a representative from Gro Hayes if he

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would be willing to speak here when
you're completed. So,

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» yeah. Yeah, that'd be great. Okay.
>> Thanks. Thanks, Mark.

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you mind speaking?

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» Morning, commissioners.
>> Morning.

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» Mike Cllingan with Gro Hayes. Um, Gro
Hayes is the Ellis County Economic

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Development for Ellis County. Um, I
appreciate your questions, Mike, and I'd

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be happy to even talk further after this
meeting on what we focus on, but our

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goal mission is to continue to work with
business growth um that comes into Ellis

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County. Uh, how we can work with
secession, keep businesses inside of

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Ellis County. Um, in the last four and a
half years, we've focused greatly on

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housing because housing is such a need
for Ellis County. and we have several

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programs that we've been working with
through Heart of America and Haze Med as

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we try and get more development into
that process. Um, we worked a lot with

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our school systems and talking about how
we can get children and kids and college

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kids to actually see themselves staying
in Ellis County in western Kansas to

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stay and grow and and see this as their
future for them. But we have multiple

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projects going on. One that we're very
proud of this year would be Agility. uh

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Agility at one point wanted to leave
Ellis County because they'd reached a

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point where they were getting ready to
redo all their construction um figure

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out where they can do the remodeling and
at one point they were looking at

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another state and working with this
company and working with the state of

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Kansas we were able to put together a
plan that not only kept Agility to stay

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inside Ellis County but they will now
expand and they'll be adding another 140

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more employees to that which benefits
Ellis County and everything that we say

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and do and what I'm talking about today
really talks about not only just that

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top layer of what we're focusing on and
we focus on a lot more than just that

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but we talk more about the ripple effect
of that process for every person that's

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staying here and they're working and
where that dollar goes if it's a dollar

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getting paid that's actually like a$130
going out that's being respent

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in our very own community and everything
that we can do to create more ripple

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effects creating new housing where
people will move into that housing that

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creates more inventory for more housing
to be used. Is every aspect along the

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way that we can uh help grow Ellis
County and keep people saying this is

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the place they want to raise their
families and they want to stay. But I'll

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be happy to answer any questions that
you might have as well.

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» Okay.
I guess probably one of the biggest

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questions is is that that increase that
is noted uh from 2018 up to up to today.

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Um
would you do you have the ability to

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address where all set came in?
>> So 2018. So I've been with Gro Hayes

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going on almost 5 years now. Right. So
uh coming out of co when grow Hayes was

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just two people. It was just Doug
Williams and Ernie Sly who was operation

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for brief space. Um we kept when I was
hired on we were taking on more projects

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and that's what we're focused on. How do
we continue to expand economic

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development? Six months later, James
Robin was brought on board. Um, this

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four-person team has worked on a lot
more projects in Ellis County than we

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worked on in the past because of that.
And that was the focus. How do we have

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the people to do what needs to be done?
Um, you know, we look at our community

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center, we look at the Grove, we look at
the microactory, we look at agility, we

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look at housing. you just kind of across
the board more people to help focus on

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bigger tasks simply to continue to grow
Ellis County. And it takes all that to

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cause that ripple effect for that pause
to flow that actually in one aspect or

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another through uh taxes actually gives
you know the cities and the county the

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ability to spend more just simply for
the fact that they have that income

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coming in from that growth. Okay.
>> Thank you.

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» Yes. Anybody else?

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Anyone else from the public?

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Burn. Okay.
Okay. Well,

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» I'll move to close public hearing for
2027 revenue neutral rates and budgets.

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Second.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

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those in favor say I.
>> I.

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» All right.
I'll move to approve proposed 2027

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general fund and fire district number
one budgets, both of which exceed the

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RNR rates and approve resolution 2026-16
for budget year 2026.

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» Okay. Do I'll still second though.
>> Okay. Sorry.

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» Second.
>> Just just a clarification. I have a typo

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on that. That last 2026 should be 2027.

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» I don't know if we need to correct or
withdraw the motion and and restate it

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to be official before we have a vote.
>> I'll restate the motion. I move to

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approve proposed 2027 general fund and
fire district number one budgets, both

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of which exceed the RNR rates and
approve resolution 2026-16 for budget

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year 2027.
>> And I will second that. Okay. Motion and

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second.
Those in favor say I.

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Here we go to the role. Thank you.
>> Commissioner Ler

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» I.
>> Chair Younger

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» I.
>> Commissioner Burgess

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» I.
>> Okay. Roll call taken.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» And thank you Mike for your concerns and
stuff. So

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» I didn't bring anybody else. [laughter]
Sorry.

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» Okay, we are putting Emily in for
before the

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greater. So,
>> hey everybody. I'm Emily Nolles, the

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director of October Fest, and my stuff's
a little lighter. Um just I wanted to

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come and ask the Pelis County
Commissioners if they would wave the

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dump fees for October Fest for this year
and um because the end time is from

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Trash Begone that'll be doing our
rolloffs this year.

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» And this is just something that we've
done normally in the past for the

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October Fest to help with that.
>> Yeah. For a lot of years.

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» Yeah. Yeah.
>> I greatly appreciate it. How many years

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is this?
>> Um, this is the 54th year of October

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Fest, but I don't know how many years
the shers have waved this.

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» Okay.
>> I think

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» Yeah, it's
>> long because I've been coming to ask.

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[laughter]
>> It started out small and got huge.

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» Yeah, it definitely it has definitely
changed in the last 10 years that I've

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been on it.
>> Is it still a two-day event? It is still

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a two-day event. And then we actually
got some of our um placer stats back.

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And I always thought, just judging by
the number of people that are down there

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with, you know, my eyes and stuff, I
thought it was maybe 10,000 max down

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there, but it's over [clears throat]
17,000 people that come down to the park

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for those two days. And 45% of those are
from out of town. 25% of them are from

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like around 50 50 miles away and
greater. And then 7% come from over 250

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miles.
>> Wow.

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» It's turned into a big thing. Kansas
tourism gave us um the best October Fest

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in Kansas award and the second place in
food festival or fall food festival. So

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we excited to have those.
>> That's great. That is

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» congratulations.
>> That boost the economy here and the

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» Yeah. youngsters g. It's just
everything. It it

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» it just keeps growing and growing and we
love that Saturday is uh well Friday is

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the more traditional day and then we've
added Saturday quite a few years ago and

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the kids just go nuts. They love it. We
have lots of different kids events um on

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Saturday. We've got um the parade and
then we've got the Clydesales there down

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right outside the October Fest Park. We
have bounce houses. Um, this year I'll

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have little Steinholding for the kids
with little root beers. I pitched that

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idea at GFest for the fifth graders and
they went crazy. So, they've asked to

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have that on Saturday. So,
>> I've never asked the question, how many

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times do they um take the trash out the
roll off? Is it one time deal? Is it a

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two several
>> Friday, Saturday?

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» We get two 25 foot rolloffs.
>> Okay.

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» And they get delivered on Wednesday and
then they get picked up on Monday. And

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so we just have um we have a group that
does that and we make a donation towards

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them and um
>> they just take care of our trash the

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entire time. It really helps a lot that
all of the can cages, the can things

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that we did for sponsorships, um those
are all around the park and so we don't

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have all the the can trash in there and
then all of those cans get recycled at

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Langanger and they get donated back to
the um the troop

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troop 133 maybe or something like that.
And um so cuz they come down on Sunday

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and help us tear down and kind of do a
com of the ground. So we donate all

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those cans to them and make a donation
to us for helping out on Sunday.

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» Okay,
good.

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» Very good. I don't have any issues.
>> Yeah,

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» I have no issues.
>> I have no no questions. So thank you,

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Emily. Um do we need to make a motion
for that one?

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» No.
>> Okay. You have consensus. So

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» thanks for all your hard work. Thanks. I
appreciate it. It's such a great

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community event. We just love that
sponsors are a huge part and the

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community shows up and it's just an all
around good thing. Um I would ask that

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if someone would like to do the opening
ceremony that would be great from one of

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you commissioners. I think Neil, you've
done it in the past and um then you guys

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can fight over this one. If you guys
want to um we'd love to have a county

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commissioner as one of the battle of the
bureau judges again. So I think Nathan

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did or Michael did it last year
>> did it last year.

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» Yeah.
>> So we welcome you guys to be a part of

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it and move.
>> I can't because I'm in the Lions Club so

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I can't do [laughter]
>> by

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» otherwise I would but you just
>> Okay. Thank you guys so much.

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» All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Okay. Discussion on considering the
purchase of a a used grater. Brandon.

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Morning commissioners. Brenamman KL
County public works director.

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» So before you is request at a later date
for me to bring forward the purchase of

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a used machine. This used machine was
the machine that county was selected to

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test for about 13 months.
It's one size larger than the machines

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we currently utilize. So, it not
something we would recommend going with

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all of our machines on, but there is a
benefit to having one size larger for at

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least one machine. This machine will be
about 50 $60,000 less than the price of

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a brand new one. But because it is a
size up and all the additional options

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that are on it, it'll come in close to
what we're paying for a brand new 140

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class machine. And some of those options
are the rear rippers, the front

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additional front hydraulics, so we can
run our attachments like our shouldering

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machine. There is additional rear
hydraulics. So if we wanted to roll a

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compaction wheel behind the that's
powered off the ripper as well as our

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cross slope assist which really helps
out keeping consistency when you're

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reconstructing a roadway. It can be done
without it but having that tool is a

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great benefit to us we found.
[snorts]

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» How many hours did we put on it over the
past 12 13 months?

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» I don't have that for sure on my head. I
think it was around 1,300, but it'll

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have an additional 7 year or 8,500 hour
warranty on it.

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» So, it'll we'll be covered up to nearly
10,000 hours on it then.

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» That's our Yes.
>> Okay.

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» Yep. Everything bumper to bumper or is
it Okay.

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» Premier with travel. So, there's no
mileage. And then it also has a CSA,

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which is all the filters and everything.
Everything minus the oil will be sent to

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us as part of it. So, all that all those
maintenance items are already factored

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in.
>> Okay.

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» Which we've done with all of our
machines. That just helps simplify. We

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get an alert 50 hours out and they send
us a package for the filters and

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consumables that need to be changed.
>> Okay.

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Yeah. As long as we have I mean we've
been going that that route. Uh and this

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is going to fit into our plan of we were
planning on purchasing one this year.

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» Correct. One soon and then if there's
money at the end of the year to purchase

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a section one.
>> Okay. Is this going to

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» take the place of any purchase or is
this just

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» This is going to take the place of one
of the purchase of one of the two

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machines that we would like to purchase
this year.

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» Okay. But we'll be losing a machine then
yet.

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» Yes, we'll be taking one from our
auxiliary fleet, the 2013 machine

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that'll be going to the landfill and the
landfills machine will be coming being

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sold.
>> Okay.

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» So, there won't be any additional
machines. We'll get one in and pass a

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nicer used machine down to the landfill
and then get rid of the landfills one.

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» Okay.

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» I have no problems moving forward with
that.

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» I don't either, especially the
warranties there. So, I mean the

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shoulder thing. How often does that get
used?

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» Well, right now zero because we don't
have any machines that can operate it.

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Okay.
>> All we have is the small one that fits

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on the back of one dump truck. So,
operating on the grater, you can have

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all of your trucks pull into it. Whereas
the one we have for the truck, it's only

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one trucks at a time.
>> Okay.

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» Okay.
>> Okay.

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» I'm good with that. Thank you.
>> I'm good.

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» Thank you very much.

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» Okay. [clears throat]
Tall grass solar uh project. the legal

440
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,320
fees. Darren,

441
00:35:56,079 --> 00:36:03,440
» uh, this next item is to re, uh, bring
back to the commission, uh, some of the

442
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:09,384
agreements that we had for the legal
fees associated with the solar farm

443
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,839
contribution agreement and the uh,
[clears throat]

444
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,560
the conditional use permit that was
approved in June of 2026.

445
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:21,599
Back in January and February time frame,
the commission entered into an agreement

446
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:27,040
with IBV for them to provide uh $200,000
into an escrow account to allow the

447
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:31,280
county to select and uh hire an attorney
on the behalf of the county that the

448
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:36,320
commissioners would select to help us
through that legal pro or the process of

449
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:39,920
the conditional use permit. All the any
additional agreements that would come

450
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,920
with that to include the contribution
agreement. Um that was an estimate at

451
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:48,320
that time. We did not know how long it
would take, how many months, how many

452
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:53,359
reviews, how many meetings um that the
commissioners or staff would have to

453
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:58,160
progress through that. Um now that we
have completed that process, there is a

454
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:04,079
remaining balance of just over 22 just
under $23,000

455
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:09,359
above um that that $200,000. The
$200,000 did include $35,000 to Acres

456
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Strong, which was another individual
consultant that the commissioners hired

457
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:18,560
to provide you all uh consulting
expertise on the legal on the solar

458
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:24,720
side, the development side of of those
uh projects. Um, and as we sit now at

459
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:30,079
the end of um, well, we're into
September already, but there is a

460
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:34,800
$23,000 balance and the commission uh,
has it on your agenda today to approve

461
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,119
that payment to Folston out of Witchah
for $22,923.50,

462
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:45,680
which would be paid out of the
contingency line item in the budget

463
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:50,040
since this was an unbudgeted expense uh,
for the county this year.

464
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Okay. Any questions?
>> So, just for clarification, the $200,000

465
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,440
that we that the county has spent on
legal fees did not come from taxpayer

466
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,119
dollars.
>> Correct. That $200,000 was the initial

467
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:09,839
agreement that was in the county
commission agenda, I believe, in both

468
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:14,640
January and February. And that payment
was put into escrow within Folston,

469
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:19,920
which was a payment directly made from
IBV to Folston. and those fees were paid

470
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:25,680
for from them. No tax dollars were spent
on those attorney fees or the there is

471
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:30,480
$5,000 left in that escrow fund because
we have a $5,000 remaining balance with

472
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,760
Acres Strong to assist us as we start
progressing through the road use

473
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,960
agreement which we're currently working
on as well as the decommissioning

474
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,960
agreement as well.
>> Okay.

475
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:48,960
» So, is there I'm just trying to look. So
5,000 left or 17,05. What's the 175 on

476
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:55,520
that one page there? Retaining funds,
retainer funds remaining on account.

477
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:59,920
They um that 17,500 was this statement
was given to us before they made a

478
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:06,480
$12,500 payment out of escrow,
>> which was the second half of the larger

479
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:10,480
chunk paid to Acres Strong, which out of
their contract was the majority of the

480
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:14,720
time committed to the project was for
the contribution agreement and the

481
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:19,599
conditional use permit. And 5,000 was
kind of set aside as a remaining balance

482
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:23,720
to them. Uh like I say for the road use
agreement and decommissioning

483
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,720
agreements.

484
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:34,880
» Okay. And these these funds were were
negotiated by the by the commission in

485
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:39,520
uh Pollston and this is not going to be
reflective in our pilot agreement that

486
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:42,079
was uh agreed upon in the conditional
use permit.

487
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,320
» Correct. We won't receive any pilot
payments from IBV for several more

488
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:50,640
years. uh probably earliest would be
2029. Uh but this will not decrease that

489
00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:54,079
amount.
>> Okay.

490
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:57,079
» Or be impacted by that amount.
>> Okay.

491
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:03,200
» Well, I'll move to approve the payment
of the attached invoice to Fston

492
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,040
pertaining to their legal consultation
for the tall grass solar project.

493
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,520
» Second.
>> Okay. We have a motion and a second. All

494
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,480
those in favor say I. I.
>> I. Motion approved.

495
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Okay.
The eulraic rescue tool purchase Darren

496
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,560
for the fire.
This agenda item is to ask the

497
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:44,160
commission approval to purchase uh
hydraulic rescue tools for company six

498
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:50,800
which is over in Ellis which is the next
scheduled uh company in the county to

499
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:54,880
get new rescue tools. Um it kind of goes
down to a trickle down effect as well.

500
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:59,119
If these tools are purchased they will
uh put into service on rescue 60 and

501
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Ellis. The tools that are currently
there will replace uh old tools that are

502
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:09,680
on engine 80 which is out in Shenshin.
The tools that are in Shenshin would

503
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:14,240
then move to mini 51, which is a brush
truck, which is the backup reserve for

504
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,480
the county tools, uh, which is here in
Hayes. And then kind of tied into the

505
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,000
next agenda item for the training
facility. Those tools that are off of

506
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:26,960
the the brush truck here in Hayes would
go out to the old engine 40, which will

507
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,640
become the reserve pumper uh, for the
for the county. So that way they can be

508
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:36,800
used out there without taking tools into
service, out of service. Um, here in

509
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:42,640
Hayes, the hydraulic tools are actually
um they're not new. They've been around

510
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:48,400
for 15 or so years. I went to FDIC,
which is out in Indianapolis, about 15

511
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:53,440
years ago, and used one battery on a
cutter and completely cut a car in half.

512
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:58,720
Um, they're they've come a long ways
even since then. They're they're heavy,

513
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:03,200
but um that's one thing that you can't
really get away from. But this this

514
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:07,760
purchase is to uh replace those tools so
that way they're hydraulics, which means

515
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,720
our current tools have a pump and then
you have hose and then you have the

516
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,119
tools at the end of it. So you're
restricted on um potentially taking two

517
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,720
or three people if you can't get to a
vehicle close enough to where the the

518
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,960
truck is parked. You have to carry all
that equipment down or wherever it may

519
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:29,040
be. These hydraulic tools are basically
the the AMCUS tools are around off of uh

520
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:33,200
big uh DeWalt batteries. So they are
interchangeable. We have these tools in

521
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:37,200
Hayes currently here. Company 5 and the
city of Hayes has also started

522
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:41,920
purchasing purchasing these tools as
well. Uh the thought of keeping like

523
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:46,240
tools is that way if we do have a
significant incident where multiple

524
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:49,760
vehicles have to be extricated or
confined space, building collapse,

525
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,560
different things like that, all the bu
all the tools are interchangeable as

526
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:58,400
well as all the batteries. So that way
we have that large uh cache of equipment

527
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:04,640
and tools that are are likeminded.
Um, when we looked at these tools, we

528
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:09,200
looked at um because they are heavy and
they they they're not the easiest to

529
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:12,720
operate, just like any rescue tool, but
we looked at a lighter weight version,

530
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,920
they were about just over $1,000 less.
But when you looked at the capacity of

531
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:20,400
what they could cut, how far they could
spread, the types of metals that they

532
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:24,880
would um not be able to cut on newer
vehicles today, a significant decrease

533
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,680
in the amount that uh they would be able
to not do. So, we uh are not asking to

534
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,520
purchase those lightweight lighter
weight tools, which are only about seven

535
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:39,520
pounds less than the the ones that are
on the agenda here. Um, but I I could

536
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:43,920
keep talking about these for a while if
if you like me to, but that's the the

537
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:48,400
biggest point of using these whole
source purchase through Weiss Fire for

538
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,839
Amus tools because Weiss is the only
dealer in Kansas in our area because

539
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:57,280
they have territories that can sell
these tools. If not, we'd have to go to

540
00:43:53,839 --> 00:44:01,280
a different branded tool. And when we
did uh started purchasing these tools, I

541
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,560
think the first one that we bought for
the county was three or four years ago,

542
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,319
uh we did do very uh various
demonstrations on other tools as well.

543
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:16,400
Homantro
um Denko had one, TNT, Amus, and um

544
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:22,880
there was one other one as well that we
Hurst I believe had one.

545
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:25,599
» Our first that was purchased in what 23
I believe.

546
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,480
» That sounds about right. But I think I
had it in the agenda when we did

547
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:33,359
purchase them last.
>> Mhm.

548
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:36,599
» Yeah. 2023 in January.
Got it.

549
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:47,680
What happens to the existing tools that
we have? Do you keep them or is there

550
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,240
any value to them if we're going with
the

551
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:54,960
» That's why I say we when we put if this
is purchased, the tools get will get

552
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:58,880
moved. Uh this would go on to rescue 60
and Ellis. Those tools would go to

553
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Shenshin uh which are an older set of
tools which those tools would then go to

554
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:09,920
the brush truck and haze and then those
really old tools are I think from 80

555
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:15,440
1981 would go into uh engine 40 or the
old uh engine 40 that would be a reserve

556
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:18,480
pumper over at the training facility if
approved as well.

557
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:23,359
» I guess what I'm getting at in in an in
an accident where the new tool is

558
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:28,480
needed, how quick will that be?
So the county's average response time

559
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:32,480
for almost the last five years, we
average 12 to 13 firefighters per call

560
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,839
and we can respond on average to any
call just under or around 10 minutes.

561
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,119
» So that's
varies. You could be one mile off the

562
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,200
interstate, which like these are going
in Ellis, they could be there within a

563
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:49,680
few minutes, but if you're um clear up
by the Selen River Bridge, it could take

564
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,960
15 20 minutes to get up there. So, um,
that's

565
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,000
part of the troubles that we have to
deal with when we have to cover 900

566
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:00,640
square miles is sometimes you can get
there quick and but there's vehicles

567
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:03,839
that travel all over their 1400 county
miles that we have of roads. So, it

568
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,839
could take a lot longer to be there as
well. But the firefighters usually turn

569
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:11,280
out which means from the time they get
their page to the time they actually

570
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:17,359
start responding is usually about 1
minute and 50 seconds and they're

571
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:22,960
usually on scene just under 10 minutes.
in the the surrounding counties. Have we

572
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:27,839
ever assisted with something like that
that they needed us for tools?

573
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,440
» When they have different incidents, we
do cover other counties um just on

574
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:34,560
standby. So that way if they do have a
call, like if they have a fire in

575
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,520
northern Rush County or Brooks County,
we've covered the south half of the

576
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,079
county for calls.
>> Uh we go over to Trio County quite often

577
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:48,079
uh with the Ellis station because Ellis
is only uh just about two miles from the

578
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:52,720
Trio County line. Um just might have
been two years ago they had that uh

579
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:58,079
larger vehicle accident. I think it was
like 17 or 20 vehicles that they covered

580
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:04,480
uh or they didn't cover. They responded
to it right away as well.

581
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:09,680
» Good.
>> Well, I'll move to approve PO number

582
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,839
7990
for the purchase of the extraction tools

583
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:18,960
for the Ellis County Fire Department.
>> Second. Okay, we have a motion and a

584
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,560
second. All those in favor say I.
>> I.

585
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:26,800
» Motion approved.
>> Hey Darren, one one last question on

586
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:32,880
this. Um, part of us retaining that
extra truck, uh, part of part of the

587
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,760
deal is that we do have to stock it or
supply it with with equipment in order

588
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:42,319
for it to be qualified for tax
reductions for our county. Is that

589
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:45,839
correct? to be qualified to get points.
Um that won't necessarily lead to

590
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,359
» I'm [clears throat] sorry, not tax
reduction. I'm sorry.

591
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:53,280
» Just to make sure. I mean, it helps
>> uh to increase our score

592
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:57,359
» uh for the ISO. The higher the scores
that we get is determined by the amount

593
00:47:55,119 --> 00:48:00,960
of points that we receive. Part of those
points uh that we don't currently

594
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:07,280
receive any at all now is for a reserve
engine for the county. Um, and since we

595
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,480
kept the old engine 40 because we spent
the money to put a new pump in it

596
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:15,040
several years before it was to be
replaced, uh, we will now have a reserve

597
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,520
engine, but it can't truly be in a fire
station, so to speak, that can be used

598
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:24,240
on any given structure fire. It's got to
be sitting in reserve status, um, that

599
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:29,359
it doesn't ever respond. So that way the
true purpose of it is if a engine goes

600
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:33,920
down, breaks down or has to be sent in
for service, warranty, whatever it may

601
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:41,119
be, could be several weeks depending on
what the problem is, that engine can

602
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:44,559
come in right away and uh fill that. So,
yes, it'd be nice to have it fully

603
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:49,040
outfitted, but at the same point, what
we would do is just um bring in a bunch

604
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:52,480
of people real quick. If we know a
engine 50 is going in for service is

605
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:57,920
going to be out of, we would just dump
all the tools. We'd probably have it out

606
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:02,400
in 30 minutes or so and then reout the
uh the reserve engine with those nicer

607
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:07,839
tools. like the tools that would be out
there 1980 some. The vehicles that they

608
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:12,800
made in 1980 aren't like they are in
2025, 2026. So those tools don't cut,

609
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,599
but there's still a lot of things that
they can do for training purposes out

610
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,760
there as well that they would be on
there and they would count for the

611
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:23,119
specific type of cutting tool on that
reserve engine.

612
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,800
» Okay. Thank you.
>> What are we up to now as far as

613
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,440
volunteer
fires? Uh we are at [snorts]

614
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,680
» 90
Well that's a that's a tricky question

615
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,920
because between today the next two days
we're on boarding seven new

616
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,720
firefighters.
>> Okay.

617
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:47,119
» And uh we just had one retire at the end
at the beginning of August here and that

618
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:51,200
should put us around 103 if uh if all go
through. So

619
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:55,200
» Okay, good. I thank them all. That's a
big thing to volunteer for our

620
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,079
community. So,
>> if we can get them all seven and going,

621
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:02,520
that'll be the most we've ever had on
the county fire department.

622
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,520
» Good.

623
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:20,559
» Okay. The uh Patterson Family
Foundation.

624
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:24,480
Um Darren.
So, as the commission knows, um

625
00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:28,160
[clears throat] earlier this year, staff
the county fire department applied for a

626
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:32,319
grant with the Patterson Family
Foundation

627
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:37,680
to create somewhat of what we're calling
a regional training facility for

628
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:42,000
Northwest Kansas or Western Kansas.
Cut out on me real quick. That sounded

629
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:45,200
inverted. Um the idea was with the
working with the Patterson family

630
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:51,119
foundation on the grant that they have a
certain bucket that they donate funds to

631
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:56,559
for uh hybrid workforce and and and
development for rural America rural

632
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Kansas. And you can't get more rural in
Kansas when you start looking at

633
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,599
volunteer fire departments. And then you
look back all the way through the trends

634
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,359
all the way to the 80s. Um, we just
spoke about being up to about 103

635
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:12,559
firefighters, but the amount of
firefighters since the 80s, volunteers

636
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:17,040
in the in the country have uh decreased
by about half uh over those years, but

637
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:24,000
the amount of calls that they respond to
have quadrupled. Um, so we're asking

638
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:28,559
less of them to do four times as much
essentially over those years. And so we

639
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,000
started looking at that and the ability
of what they're here for and the

640
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,760
training to keep them safe, to keep them
knowledgeable, to stay up to date on

641
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:41,359
building uh fire, building construction,
vehicle extrication, hazmat, rescue, uh

642
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,559
about everything you can think of. And
one of the things that we're lacking is

643
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:51,200
a good hands-on training facility. Uh
you can make do things um very cheaply

644
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:54,720
and uh give them some type of
opportunity to have that hands-on

645
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:58,400
training. But then when you start trying
to partner with other organizations, we

646
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,160
got letters of support from the Kansas
Division Emergency Management, Kansas

647
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,960
Forestry Service, Kansas Fire and Rescue
Training Institute. We'll be working

648
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:09,839
with Kansas hopefully the Kansas
Firefighters Association um to create

649
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:14,240
some of these types of trainings. Uh but
when you start putting uh firefighters

650
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:18,079
in IDLH atmosphere, immediately
dangerous to life and health, uh where

651
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:22,400
you have live fire, you have to start
meeting certain standards. and uh to

652
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,720
have those classes, to have those
opportunities, um there's not very many

653
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,880
facilities like this in the in the state
of Kansas that uh you can put all these

654
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:36,800
different types of ideas into one place
and and have have that ability for them

655
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:40,640
to train. So, we looked at the Patterson
Family Foundation. We applied for a

656
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:45,440
grant and we put a whole bunch of um
training props that we've seen uh either

657
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:52,800
through conferences, uh newsletters,
just word of mouth and different things

658
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:58,160
like that. and um came to a bulleted
point list of items that are on the

659
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:02,559
agenda that um are part of the grant.
So, if the commission would allow, I

660
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:07,280
would speak to each one of them just to
kind of give an educa or a little quick

661
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:11,040
synopsis of what each is. Um so, I'll
just scroll through. I attached a whole

662
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:15,680
bunch of pictures.
Um but the first one is kind of the main

663
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:20,800
focal point of the training center. So,
if you can imagine um what this may look

664
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,640
like, it's a 10acre track of land, which
we'll talk about here in a little bit,

665
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:30,640
but right in the center of it is a uh
training center tower that looks like

666
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:36,720
you have on the screen. It's 10 Conx's
built together um structurally designed

667
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:41,599
and NFPA approved for live fire burning
both on the main floor as well as on the

668
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:46,240
second floor. So you can do interior and
exterior as well as second story and you

669
00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:51,119
can train as it being a basement to do
live fire training scenarios. Uh the

670
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:56,480
tops of these facilities are built so
that way you have anchor points for rope

671
00:53:52,800 --> 00:54:00,640
rescue to repel off the sides. And then
part of the backside of that has

672
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:06,079
multiple props so that way you can do
bailout exercises out of windows, roof

673
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:09,599
collapse, entanglement props, uh wall
breach props. There's a roof prop that

674
00:54:08,182 --> 00:54:14,480
[snorts] you can see on there. That way
you can practice using chainsaws to cut

675
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,760
through roof and on part of the conx you
can open up and they have a metal

676
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,559
cutting prop so that way you can use
your rotary tools to cut through metal.

677
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:28,480
So that's the the main focus of the
center of the facility and um also the

678
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:33,200
the most expensive part as part of the
Patterson grant that we have received

679
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:38,559
which is roughly $454,000
already. That is enough to pay for this

680
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:44,880
as well as a water uh supply prop which
will allow us to build a somewhat of a

681
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:49,440
sistern or a large pool that we can have
um about 20,000 gallons of water to be

682
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:54,160
able to draft up store water into and
draft out of to use for the live fire

683
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:59,520
scenarios as well as a above ground like
a 200 barrel oil tank to accommodate

684
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:03,359
another we haven't actually bought the
the tank yet of course because we have

685
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:07,280
to have the commission approval but you
can I have another 200 barrel which is

686
00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:14,000
uh what's that about 10 12,000 gallons
worth of water above ground as well to

687
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:19,280
to continue with that. Um
moving on is a flashover simulator. What

688
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:24,880
this is is you start uh on the left side
of that prop. You use class A

689
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:29,359
combustibles and you create heat, fire,
and smoke. And then the firefighters go

690
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:34,160
into the right side of that. And you can
see by sitting into it, laying on the

691
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:39,680
floor, you can uh put in the effects of
rollover, flashover, and different

692
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:44,880
impacts of looking at fire behavior um
in there in a design structure so that

693
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,880
way they can do it safely. Um and
technically, you won't be in there for a

694
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:53,680
flashover event. Um but you'll be able
to open up the doors and see what it

695
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:58,480
actually looks like.
This is another prop that would be in

696
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:01,599
another area of the facility. Um, this
is not necessarily the one that we're

697
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:06,319
looking at, but on and the inside of
that has an SCBA confined space maze, so

698
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:10,720
that way firefighters can practice
crawling through tight spaces with their

699
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,319
SCBA on their breathing apparatus. Um,
as you can see off the left side of

700
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:18,240
that, it's got a roof cutting prop um,
as well. And off the top, it's got a

701
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:22,400
safety device with a bailout window, so
that way you can practice safely being

702
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:29,000
tethered to a safety rope, bailing out a
window onto a ladder to get out of a out

703
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,000
of a building. Uh

704
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:35,839
this is a fire dynamics prop. This is if
you essentially look at like maybe two

705
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:40,720
large suitcases where you could start a
fire and you have different compartments

706
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:45,119
like you do in a home. You can start a
fire in one and open up doors or windows

707
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:49,280
and practice ventilation to see how that
impacts fire and how the fire growth it

708
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:55,359
spreads throughout the throughout the
building.

709
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Forcible entry door. Uh this is uh
basically a door that is built out of

710
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:04,319
solid steel and you just replace wood
products into it um scrap wood. So that

711
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:09,280
way you can practice breaching and
breaking through walls and prying open

712
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:13,920
doors. Uh cuz if you imagine if we had a
facility where we could go break through

713
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:17,680
a door after you do it once and you got
20 people in class, the door is done,

714
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:23,280
you can't do it again. Um, basically you
slide in new wood into that uh

715
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:28,400
into that door and then you can just do
it over and over as long as you have

716
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:33,359
that additional wood to to do so.
It also includes in a different area of

717
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:39,599
the complex a LPG training prop. So what
this is is this is a not a true picture

718
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,960
of what it actually looks like. They but
it's a it's a vehicle like an SUV. That

719
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:50,480
SUV slides over a pan that's controlled
by water and propane underneath it. So

720
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:55,440
that way you can um have a ignited
propane fire inside the car. Then you

721
00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:00,480
can open the doors, open the hoods and
uh approach the vehicles in the safe way

722
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:06,000
without having to worry about explosions
or projectiles on a on a normal car if

723
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:09,440
we got one that we could use to burn up.
And they have other props that come with

724
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:12,960
that. You can have them. They come they
they basically roll over pans. So you

725
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:17,440
can have a dumpster fire, you have car
fires, engine fires, uh different things

726
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:21,440
like that, as well as the pan that you
kind of see below it where you can fill

727
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:25,359
that up full of water and then have your
propane attached to it. And as the

728
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:30,240
propane escapes through the water, it
lights. So you have a liquid fuel and

729
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,760
then the firefighters can use that as a
prop to use foam to suppress fires using

730
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:42,079
different foam application methods to
put fire out on liquid fuels.

731
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Part [clears throat] of that process out
there that uh before the training

732
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:52,640
complex actually came to light was the
the bond that the commission has

733
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:56,079
approved uh to was originally thought to
have a storage facility out by the

734
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:02,480
public works facility to store the
engine uh that was replaced over in

735
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:07,760
Ellis as a reserve. Um, a part of that
then grew into having the appropriate

736
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:11,119
size storage facility to house that
engine as well as some of the other

737
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:15,599
equipment that the counties received off
Homeland Security grants or through the

738
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:19,839
forestry service. We have an ATV that
was granted to us uh no charge from the

739
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:24,319
forestry service as well as a water
supply trailer that houses seven

740
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:29,520
portable tanks. So that way we could in
the time of need have seven or six

741
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:33,760
portable tanks connected together or
individual to hold 21,000 gallons of

742
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:38,880
water on a wildland fire, structure
fire, whatever it may be. But that whole

743
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:43,920
project was donated by the wild the
homeland security. So all that equipment

744
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:49,920
would be out here as well. Uh but on the
west or the left side of that is a

745
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:55,359
classroom. So that way when you have uh
inperson class in a classroom session at

746
00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:00,640
the training center um there would be an
actual training room available for the

747
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:05,119
firefighters. U this building the way we
have it set now is uh we have a bunch of

748
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,000
firefighters who are willing to finish
it on the inside if it does get built.

749
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,839
So if it does get constructed at
constructed the way it is planned now

750
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:18,640
and based on the size that we have on
the lot, it would be a 40x 100 metal

751
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:23,200
building and the classroom would be
40x40. And uh like I say, it would be

752
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:29,040
unfinished. It would be insulated on the
inside, but over a period of time,

753
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:32,000
firefighters will go in, as you imagine,
having 103 firefighters, they have a lot

754
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:36,720
of different skills and abilities, so
they'll be able to finish that room out.

755
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:41,359
And we do have HBAC donated for the
project as well for both sides of that

756
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:48,640
building.
So moving on to where it would actually

757
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:54,319
be located is a map and the east west
street at the bottom is 55th. So that's

758
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:59,599
the landfill 55th and 240th. Uh you
can't really see my cursor, but right

759
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:04,400
there at the intersection,
this is all the landfill area in the

760
01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:08,799
right down here in the corner is where
the main entrance is at. To the west of

761
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:12,960
that is a 10acre plot that was closed
back in the early 1990s, I believe in

762
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:18,480
1991 where one of the original Ellis
County landfills were built on and

763
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:24,559
there's not much it can be used for. You
can't build on it. Um it's been sitting

764
01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:30,240
there vacant since the 1990s. Uh but the
only section of that 10 acres is that uh

765
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:34,640
smaller blue box that was never
developed or put as waste because that's

766
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:38,480
where their scale house and their office
building and everything was located at

767
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,720
back in the 80s. So that is where the
location and the current entrance is to

768
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:47,680
the facility and that's where that
building would be placed at uh running

769
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:51,839
north to south but it would be facing
east and then that bigger that lighter

770
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:55,760
blue box is the 10 acres that are
identified. So each of those training

771
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:59,599
props would have different areas located
through there in like a big circle. The

772
01:01:57,359 --> 01:02:03,280
training uh the the conxes would be in
the center of it and then throughout the

773
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:08,079
surrounding area of that you'd have each
of those other props. Two other items

774
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:11,760
that we didn't list that aren't
mentioned. Um, Kansas Fire and Rescue

775
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,839
Training Institute would like to have
some part of that to build a rubble pile

776
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:21,040
for simulation and training on building
collapse. Um, which would be concrete

777
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:25,040
blocks, containers, culverts, and things
like that to be able to tunnel and

778
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,480
traverse through. And then another area
would be out there for vehicle

779
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:32,319
extrication. So that way it would be a
simulated area that the fire companies

780
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,760
could go out and tear and cut apart
vehicles and not have to worry about the

781
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:40,319
oil, the gas, the glass, and all the
other materials that may be falling down

782
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:46,799
that they don't necessarily have to
clean up or um so a lot of opportunities

783
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:52,079
there. Um
with that comes to the discussion we

784
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:55,920
had. Uh, previously, like I say, we were
originally maybe putting the storage

785
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,760
building out of the public works
facility and the location that was

786
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:03,599
identified there was going to create a
lot of work for public works to be able

787
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:07,119
to cut and fill, do a lot of dirt work
to get us about 3 and 1/2 acres. It was

788
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:13,760
going to take them several months as
they had allowable time to move any

789
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:18,160
dirt. This is already flat and uh it's
three times the size. And then when you

790
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:23,839
start looking at utilities, we met with
Midwest Energy at both locations. We

791
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:29,520
would have to be trenching um several
couple almost 2,000 feet of gas line. Uh

792
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:35,039
we would be trenching a water line and
we'd be dropping in many power poles to

793
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:38,960
get uh access to the other facility.
Whereas right here, right there at that

794
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:43,599
bottom corner, there's electricity right
there. Uh they probably only have to set

795
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:50,720
one power pool. And we do have one trans
uh u

796
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:54,880
not transmission but uh
donated for the electricity

797
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,799
» transformer donated. Um
>> so that's another cost savings there and

798
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:05,680
gas is also in the ditch on the south
side. So uh getting access to utilities

799
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:09,520
a lot quicker. Um the only issue that
we'll still be working with if the

800
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:13,520
commission would to approve is the rural
water district stops their 4-in water

801
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:18,000
man at the entrance to our drug
enforcement unit building which is about

802
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:23,680
1,800 ft to the east on the south side
of the road. And the city of Hayes stops

803
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:29,359
their 10-in water man 18 about 1,800 ft
to the west uh right about the entrance

804
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:35,359
of Dunan. So, um, still working on both
of those to see, uh, which route to to

805
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:42,160
go with there, but that will be about a
$25,000 expense to get water based on

806
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:47,760
some estimates. Um, it is in the, uh,
water districts, uh, district area. So,

807
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:51,680
uh, first preference comes to them on
trying to work something out there. But,

808
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,440
if the commission were to approve all of
this and allow us to move forward, uh,

809
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:59,359
that would be the next thing that we'll
be working on.

810
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:04,319
The last piece that I would mention is
the the gratitude for the Patterson

811
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:08,000
Family Foundation uh for working with us
on this. It wouldn't be possible uh to

812
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,920
do it. Like I say, they've already given
us over $454,000.

813
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,400
It's sitting in the bank account now
with the treasury. Uh if the commission

814
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:21,359
were to not approve to proceed,
essentially a check would just be made

815
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:26,079
back to them and then uh with nothing uh
would be spent on it. The next part of

816
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,920
the grant, as this is uh all the
equipment that we said that I went

817
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:37,520
through minus the building was about
$820,000 worth of equipment. Um so the

818
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:41,119
Patterson family has given us 454,000.
They're doing what's called a challenge

819
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:45,839
grant with us for the the remaining
roughly 350,000 to get us the purchase

820
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:50,559
of the rest of the equipment essentially
for they will match any donation that

821
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:56,640
the county fire departments receive
dollar for dollar up to 178,000. So if

822
01:05:53,839 --> 01:06:01,039
we raise 178,000 they'll give us another
178,000. So collectively besides the

823
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:05,520
money that we get, the money that we
raise and the money that they match

824
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:12,960
after that will be just about 800 I
think $11,000 which should get us most

825
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:16,799
everything uh as part of that uh grant
application minus a couple things that I

826
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,400
didn't mention. There was a couple smoke
machines that we had in there, some

827
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:28,000
rescue mannequins as well as hose to
outfit that old engine 40 for a fire

828
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:31,280
attack and fire supply line. Um,
so like yeah, like I say, if it wasn't

829
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:37,119
for the Patterson Family Foundation,
this wouldn't really go go forward. Uh,

830
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:40,720
what's what would be next? Maybe another
question the commission may ask is we

831
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,599
were going to have to retain some
statistics afterwards is who all trains

832
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:49,039
there, how often do they train there,
what departments are they from, are they

833
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:53,680
new recruits, uh, you know, from
Philipsburg or Kobe? uh keep track of

834
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:59,520
all that compared to how many are
actually uh veterans of the fire service

835
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:02,960
and we send all that information out. Um
one thing that we're working on like I

836
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:06,960
say with the Kansas State Firefighters
Association is hopefully create an

837
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:11,440
annual fire school in western Kansas. Uh
the only true fire school in the state

838
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:16,240
right now is in March. It's in Topeka.
Uh so the western part of the state

839
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:20,240
really doesn't get a whole lot of time
to be able to take off work and go out

840
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,839
there. Whereas this facility could be
open year round that if Philsburg wanted

841
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:28,720
to come down and do some type of
training the facility would be open to

842
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:32,160
them as well as if we do an annual fire
school that would be the earliest when

843
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:37,119
everything would be completed if we
match or meet the fundraising goals

844
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:41,359
would be about 2028.
and we're hoping to have that and every

845
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,880
year at the same time usually or we're
hoping to have it like October, November

846
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:47,520
time frame.
>> Okay.

847
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:53,000
» So, a lot of information. I'll pause
because just make sure I captured

848
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,000
everything.

849
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:02,720
So, this has kind of really metastasized
from being a just storage facility to

850
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:07,039
we've really gone and and the Pattersons
have really stepped in to really make

851
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:10,640
this a western Kansas kind of
cornerstone.

852
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:14,960
» Yeah. How that actually came through
with the request from the Patterson

853
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:18,880
Family Foundation was an idea uh through
Leadership Kansas, which I attended last

854
01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:22,000
year. And you through Leadership Kansas,
you go around the states to see the

855
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:27,040
different communities, what they're
doing, whether it be economic

856
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:31,600
development, uh whether it be businesses
that they're doing, education, military,

857
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:34,640
and and one of the stops that we did was
in Salina, and they have what's called

858
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:40,319
Crisis City, which is a military
installation out uh on the bombing range

859
01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:45,040
to the west of Salina. Uh it's not open
to the public. Um you can get out there,

860
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:50,080
but you can't just use it, so to speak.
And when we were out there, uh, the CEO

861
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:53,759
of the Patterson Family Foundation was
out there and I kind of just ran the

862
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:59,679
idea by her just to see if this would
meet their goals and objectives of what

863
01:08:55,359 --> 01:09:04,880
they donate money for. And um, she got
me into contact with some of their staff

864
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:09,199
and I kind of shared the idea is and
they kind of guided me from there as to

865
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:14,640
yeah, may may be something they would be
interested in. And um so we filled out

866
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:20,662
the application process and it
that's how it's came about.

867
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,662
» Very good. [clears throat]

868
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:29,120
» So with this, do you think that uh
that's going to be more inviting to get

869
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:34,960
more volunteer firefighters? So without
people in Ellis County or Hayes or

870
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:39,120
houses that um we'll have more people
want to participate.

871
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:44,480
» I don't think it's going to be a sole
reason for the any firefighter to join.

872
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,679
But I think especially as a volunteer,
but I think the many different things

873
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:52,400
that we do that we've tried with the
county, uh you try to protect them with

874
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:56,159
the right gear so that way they're safe.
You give them a purpose. You give them

875
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:59,600
decent equipment that they can train and
use on. you give them the support.

876
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:04,080
They're not truly volunteers. They do
get paid. And then and if you give them

877
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:08,159
the purpose of having true scenarios
where you're not just uh saying this is

878
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:13,280
what it looks like by sitting in the
classroom watching something on YouTube,

879
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:16,400
you can actually go out and use this uh
and then be able to create fire schools

880
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:20,239
where might be able to create revenue
for the county to offset some of the

881
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:26,080
expenses. Um because when they come in
they may uh we may have registration

882
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:29,600
fees uh for a conference but if KU comes
in they usually supply all the material.

883
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:34,719
So like if we're doing a lot of cutting
and breaching and breaking of sheetrock

884
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:39,120
or OSB and stuff they usually uh bring
some of that material in to be able to

885
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:43,520
pay for it as well. So when you look at
it I don't think it's necessarily going

886
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:47,840
to if I were to say one side or the
other it's going to help uh recruit

887
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:51,600
firefighters rather than not be of any
benefit. It's just another another

888
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:55,679
ability that we'll have to be able to
use and and give them the ability to go

889
01:10:54,159 --> 01:11:02,080
out and do some training.
>> So the LPG right now, what do we do as

890
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,960
far as that is on a on a fire? Has have
you witnessed that yet or not?

891
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,880
» For training?
>> No.

892
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:12,800
» For for Yeah. [laughter] for a real
incident.

893
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:16,080
» So KPA does different they have out at
Crisis Cities, they have different

894
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,320
training props that you can do. Uh, but
LPG, it's so tricky because there's the

895
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,600
when you look at what type of scenario
are you, are you talking about a truck

896
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:30,080
hauling LP? Are you looking at a little
propane tank at a building or a propane

897
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:32,880
tank on a on a a barbecue grill? Um, you
know, you can't just put water on it

898
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:37,760
because it doesn't really stop the leak.
So, then you have to cool it off and

899
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,360
prevent what's called a belvy, uh, which
was when they explode. But if you put

900
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,080
the fire out, you still have leaking
propane. So, then now you have a

901
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:47,600
flammable atmosphere that you have to
worry about. So there's a lot of

902
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:51,920
different things and we train all of our
firefighters. At a minimum it's required

903
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:56,000
that they go through hazmat awareness uh
to be on the fire department and um that

904
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,920
doesn't really necessarily get
everything but it's this it's the

905
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:04,480
awareness level what your environment
and environment during hazmat situations

906
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:09,960
that you're involved in to make sure you
identify what you're working in and get

907
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:09,960
the appropriate help coming.

908
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:18,080
in the uh city of Hayes, they're well
aware of this, correct? That this

909
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:21,280
possibly could go through and are they
going to use the facility? Are we going

910
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:24,960
to let other
>> Yeah, when I guess when I say volunteer

911
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:28,800
firefighters, it wouldn't be limited to
just volunteers at the city of Hayes.

912
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:33,760
Obviously, they're the only full-time
fire department around us until you get

913
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:38,159
down to KBY, Dodge, Garden, or Salina,
Great Bend, but u I've even said if

914
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:41,600
Kansas City, Kansas comes out for a
training, it it

915
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:44,880
just means we're getting bigger and
better and is getting a good name, a

916
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:50,400
good reputation, and a good opportunity.
So primary focus is for volunteer

917
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:54,640
firefighters, but we do um regular
scheduled training with company 5 and

918
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:58,880
the city hayes. And if they are willing
to come out and use it whether with us

919
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:02,560
or on their own for whatever type of
training scenario, I would say they

920
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,679
should be more than welcome as well
because they'll that's one of those

921
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,880
things. It's the city hayes fire
department, but they still benefit the

922
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:13,760
county. Yep. They do respond out in the
county for um no matter where it is with

923
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:18,640
at least one firefighter if it's
surrounding the city of Hayes, they

924
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:22,239
bring uh their on duty uh full on duty
force

925
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:28,080
» and like Commissioner Ler said that you
know Patterson family that that's huge.

926
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:31,760
So
>> I think we have somebody that would like

927
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,679
to the audience would like to speak on
this.

928
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,920
» All right. Just had a quick quick
question for Darren speaking from

929
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,480
somebody that's been in a couple
training trailers.

930
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:48,239
» If you would live, if you would state
your name, please.

931
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:53,679
» Oh, Mike Worth, 605 200th Avenue. Um,
I mean, this is great. I mean, I I love

932
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:57,760
what he's doing here. Uh, I guess my
question is is,

933
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:02,960
you know, you got a lot of grant money
coming in and it's, you know, trying to

934
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:06,679
get it and it sounds like you've kind of
got it going, but

935
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:14,400
is there
if you have uh firefighters from coming

936
01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:18,640
in from different counties and you know,
you have them scheduled, does the county

937
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:23,920
then
like have a list and then they submit

938
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:28,080
that to the state saying, "Hey, you
know, we had this many trainees come

939
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:33,840
into our facility.
Do we get reimbursed for this?" Is there

940
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:36,080
something or is this just all on Ellis
County?

941
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:39,840
» So, this isn't tied to anything with the
state. So, all the numbers that we

942
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,520
collect or some of the requirements that
the Patterson family wants us to know

943
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:47,280
just so they have statistics of how many
firefighters are they full-time,

944
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:52,719
part-time, volunteer, where they're
from, are they new recruits, are they 10

945
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:56,880
year, 20 year veterans? Um, if we have
fire schools, that will be ability. Um,

946
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:00,480
I mean, I don't know what the price
because we're several years out of even

947
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:04,640
having that as a possibility, but
usually any fire school you go to has

948
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:08,560
like a registration fee. It's like a
conference. So, that helps to pay

949
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:13,199
» depending on how big and how long and
how much you do would be determined

950
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:19,600
about what whether it's $50 registration
fee or a hundred. And so, so will the

951
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:24,080
Patterson family, since the state's not
involved, they will kind of supplement

952
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:27,760
something to the county or is this just
a one-time set you up deal and they're

953
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:33,920
done?
>> Correct. So, if Plainville wanted to

954
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:39,120
come down, um, we often get, I wouldn't
say often, but quite frequently we get

955
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:45,120
requests to take donations for vehicles.
Uh we get pallets, uh hay bales, all all

956
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:49,840
kinds of things that would be able to
use. So you don't actually have to

957
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:55,360
purchase the stuff because you use com
combustible class A materials, usually

958
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:59,840
pallets and bales and the live burn. Um
everything else. So if if uh Planeville,

959
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,800
again, I don't want to pick on
Planeville, but if they wanted to come

960
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:07,199
down and do vehicle extrication, they
would need vehicles. And um they we

961
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:11,760
would just set them up with maybe Bretts
or Pipers, and they usually give us a

962
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:16,239
very highly discounted rate, basically
enough to cover their cost to get a

963
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:20,080
vehicle to us and back. So if it's $100
a vehicle, we would just ask like the

964
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:25,199
Planeville Fire Department to pay for
that vehicle. But um other than that,

965
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:31,040
our guys, our firefighters are very
excited about this as well. Um they they

966
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:35,280
want to do a lot of teaching as well. So
training is one thing. That's one level

967
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:40,320
of of commitment. But when they actually
start committing to teach um you educate

968
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,600
yourself but others a lot better and
brings us to another higher level. So

969
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,640
that's another piece of the training
part of it.

970
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:52,159
» It's all about repetition. I mean when
you're training and the better you get.

971
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:58,239
So having the training facility right on
hand is better than waiting, you know,

972
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:03,520
whenever we get on a list for them to
bring a training trailer in. It's just

973
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:08,719
it's sometimes it's tough to do. So I
could see this as good. I I just kind of

974
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:12,213
wonder, you know, I I still feel like
the county is going to have to be

975
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:15,440
kicking kicking something in here and
[snorts] firefighters substantial.

976
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:19,120
» The firefighters will have a commitment
to go out there and do the training. um

977
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:24,400
not just be a part of it, but also
teach. Um and then

978
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:29,040
I [clears throat] wouldn't say there's
going to be no expense, but you you're

979
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:33,840
using the props that are already out
there. So, I guess an example would be

980
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:37,520
the LPG. You know, we'd have to replace
LPG every once in a while, but that

981
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:42,560
might be something if we host a fire
school that KSFA um would fill the

982
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:49,280
propane tank up and if they use it all,
they use it all. If not, then we would

983
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:54,159
have uh equipment left over. Um so there
there would be expenses, but we I mean

984
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:58,159
we got to train our firefighters, too.
So we have to have expenses in relation

985
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:02,239
to that. And then like the the budget
that we have for next year didn't

986
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:06,400
increase any because of this project and
I don't see it necessarily increasing

987
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:10,159
unless we want to start doing doing
something more which at that time I

988
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:15,360
guess the commissioner would have to
approve. So, I I guess what Mr. Worth is

989
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:21,360
trying to get at, he's he's trying to
make sure that Ellis County is not going

990
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:27,120
to be raising taxes or or taxing just to
fund and keep this project afloat. And I

991
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:32,239
guess the end goal would be is that yes,
we have a premier training facility when

992
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:35,920
it's done, but the possibility of
hosting and having some revenues that

993
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:40,719
would offset some of that.
>> Correct. The biggest expense is what

994
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:44,640
we're seeing here today is the $820,000
worth of equipment. After that, one of

995
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:51,360
the things like I didn't mention was
it's attached to 200 plus acres of

996
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:54,560
grassland for the landfill out there,
which is what the forestry service is

997
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:58,239
interested in coming out and doing live
fire training out there as well. So

998
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,239
although you're just burning out grass,
there is expenses associated with that.

999
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:08,640
Like if we use drip torches, you know,
we're using but it's so minimal. Um, but

1000
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:15,199
you still there are expenses that would
be uh be occurred to have it. Uh, we're

1001
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:22,000
hosting a fire school
next week uh or two weeks September, I'm

1002
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:25,600
sorry, this weekend the 11th and the
12th of the K State Firefire

1003
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:29,520
Association. Even without the training
facility, we still have when we host a

1004
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:35,120
fire school, we have expenses. So, we
rent uh we rent or sometimes get donated

1005
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:39,120
equipment to roll cars, smash cars, so
that way they're not just sitting there

1006
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:44,239
uh with doors not smashed in where you
can just pop them open. Um so, we still

1007
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:48,400
have those even when we have a a fire
school without this, but it's like Mike

1008
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:52,239
said, we're bringing in trailers at that
point. Um which aren't always as

1009
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,480
realistic and
>> but it's something it's it's a lot

1010
01:19:53,679 --> 01:19:59,360
better than nothing.
>> Yeah. Yeah. you know, if you get it all

1011
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:02,560
built, I maybe Nathan needs to make a
motion that the commissioners have to go

1012
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,840
through it. So, [laughter]
>> yeah, absolutely.

1013
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:09,840
» You know, they're they're constantly
doing fundraisers al I mean, also, so

1014
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:15,120
there'll be some
>> and those people those firefighters are

1015
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:19,840
a little different people. They like to
keep their stuff up to par and

1016
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:25,280
participate. So,
>> they're they're adrenaline junkies. I

1017
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:30,159
know, but it's they're dedicated and and
volunteers. I I can't say that enough.

1018
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:36,400
Uh not only that, I was going to ask the
question, too, to um field trip. I would

1019
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:40,880
love to do went through something this
facility years ago to to at least look

1020
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:44,960
at it because that will teach our kids
not to mess with fire because you're

1021
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:50,080
going to get burned. Um it's just a
matter of when. So,

1022
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:53,040
» two more quick things is um this isn't
necessarily for us today or the next

1023
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,520
couple years. This is the next
generation of firefighters after I

1024
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,880
retire.
>> So, that way we can continue. If we

1025
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,600
don't have volunteer firefighters, the
tax burden on the county is going to

1026
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:04,800
significantly increase because you're
going to have to start hiring full-time

1027
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:09,520
people and you can't just really do it
with one with the expectation that they

1028
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:15,840
have PTO and vacation. So, it's going to
be many. Uh and then the next piece is

1029
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:20,800
we we do have the $178,000 challenge to
to match in the future. Um the

1030
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:26,719
firefighters already started working on
that. We haven't uh accepted any funds

1031
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:30,640
yet uh because we didn't want to accept
anything before the commission would

1032
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:37,040
approve this, but we already have 61,000
of the 178,000 uh committed to to this.

1033
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:43,280
And just as of this morning, we sent out
another email if somebody's wanting to

1034
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:47,040
do it. Um, I sent out a some emails
yesterday. Um, we have a couple

1035
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:51,600
foundations that we're going to be
working with and some disaster funds

1036
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:56,159
that possibly could give us uh upwards
of another $100,000 in the coming weeks.

1037
01:21:54,800 --> 01:22:00,159
Uh, and they're working hard. The
firefighters are for the first week in

1038
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:03,920
October is GiveFest with Heartland
Community Foundation. So, all the money

1039
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:08,639
that they raise, they could be getting
up dollar for dollar as well. Uh, so

1040
01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:12,320
they're they're pretty excited about
this and I I hope the momentum goes for

1041
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:17,280
the several months so that way they can
hit that and blow that $178,000 cap out

1042
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:22,320
of the water and and then we're sitting
on excess funds that may be able to use

1043
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:26,960
to stockpile some of that equipment like
uh Mr. Worth was talking about that um

1044
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:32,080
give us funds into the future so that
way there is no burden on some of those

1045
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:38,520
small pieces of consumable goods that
would be need needed to train with.

1046
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,520
Okay.

1047
01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:46,080
I I think it's a great great move.
So,

1048
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:50,639
» I will move to approve the acceptance of
the Patterson Family Foundation grant

1049
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:57,120
for the regional training facility
training equipment and to allocate the

1050
01:22:53,120 --> 01:23:02,000
10acre parcel at 1515 West 55th for the
purpose of the same facility.

1051
01:22:59,679 --> 01:23:05,920
» Second.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

1052
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:10,199
those in favor say I.
>> I.

1053
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,199
» I. Motion approved.

1054
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:17,040
» Thank you for this opportunity. I know.
Um hopefully the firefighters blow your

1055
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:21,040
inboxes and cell phones and text
messages up that there's a lot of true

1056
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:25,120
excitement about this and I think it's
going to take us to a whole another

1057
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:29,360
level into the future and uh give me
more to do on my all the extra time that

1058
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:33,920
I have off already.
It's it's going to be neat. And um

1059
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:38,320
definitely they used to do uh at the at
Scaffa every year they used to bring the

1060
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:43,760
legislators in when we were out there in
March and they called it like fire ops

1061
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:47,679
101 where they brought brought in uh the
senators reps and even county

1062
01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:51,520
commissioners, city commissioners to go
through what it's actually like. And

1063
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,800
maybe if we get this fully built in the
next couple years, that might be

1064
01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:58,719
something that we can do locally uh to
share it with the community of what's

1065
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:04,719
truly out there. That'd be great. I'd
just like to say, you know, I was on the

1066
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:10,480
on the department almost 15 20 years ago
and uh I had the opportunity to go on a

1067
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:14,960
trailer that has been discussed and it
was that training cuz within a week or

1068
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:19,280
two after that I was actually inside of
a a burning structure fire and it's the

1069
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:23,920
training that was received while in
those training facilities that really

1070
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:29,120
helped and really set the tone for one
on call and on scene. So, this facility,

1071
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:34,560
I think if we can expose more of our
volunteers and our our firefighters to

1072
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:41,080
these, uh, it makes for better outcomes
when they are challenged with that. So,

1073
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:41,080
I look forward to this.

1074
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:46,719
» If anybody knows of anybody to reach out
to for donations, I please let me know

1075
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:52,800
because we'll take them.
>> That give fest is a is a cool thing.

1076
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,600
You can double your money and it goes to
good causes.

1077
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:01,360
Okay.
Michael, you have anything?

1078
01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:06,239
» I don't.
>> Okay. County administrator

1079
01:25:03,819 --> 01:25:13,360
[clears throat] report. Uh we do have
one topic uh that Mr. Jeter and uh the

1080
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:18,080
county clerk Bobby's received a request
to from the rural water district number

1081
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:21,760
six to add real estate into the water
district that was uh removed from

1082
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:25,920
another water district. and we need to
schedule a public hearing to do so. And

1083
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:29,840
I don't know if Mr. Jeter wants to
explain any more of that, but

1084
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:34,080
essentially once the notice was
received, I believe on September 1st, we

1085
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:38,880
have one month or 30 days to hold a
public hearing as well as create notice

1086
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,560
to the hearing for that. And uh was
hoping that besides anything else Mr.

1087
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:46,239
Jeter may want to share if we could
schedule uh look at the your calendars

1088
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:52,080
today to see if we can get a meeting
scheduled towards the end of the month.

1089
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:57,679
Bill Jeter, county counselor. Uh, this
statutory process. Trio County Rural

1090
01:25:54,719 --> 01:26:03,840
Water District abandon
earlier this year some territory in

1091
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:09,679
Ellis County and Ellis County Rural
Water District number six wants to

1092
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:15,120
attach that property to their property.
And the statutory process requires uh

1093
01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:20,960
approval by the county commission
subject to a public hearing being held

1094
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:25,040
within 30 days of when that application
was filed with the county clerk's

1095
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:31,440
office.
Um and notice being provided at least 7

1096
01:26:28,719 --> 01:26:35,840
days before the hearing.
And we're working on who we provide

1097
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:40,280
notice to. And so we need to schedule a
public hearing and a hearing date.

1098
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:52,000
» I think that the timing has created an
issue because we can't fit a county

1099
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:58,080
commission
already scheduled county commission

1100
01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:01,520
meeting within that time frame.
>> Is that right, Bobby? So we need to have

1101
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,360
a special date,
>> right? because the next commission

1102
01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:09,280
meeting is going to be October past the
30 days that we are required to have it

1103
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:15,159
but it was too late to get it scheduled
for next week since I have to give a

1104
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,159
7-day notice.

1105
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:23,040
So,
>> so the week of like the 21st through 20

1106
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:28,639
25th, the week the following week, the
28th through that first week, I'm in I'm

1107
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:32,480
in Atlanta, so I I mean, you don't have
to have all three commissioners, but I

1108
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,520
would not be able to attend a a meeting
that week.

1109
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:39,440
» Takes all three. Correct.
>> Uh just a majority vote. So, it take two

1110
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:42,400
of you.
>> Yeah.

1111
01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:44,800
» Are you available on the week of the
21st through

1112
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:47,440
» Yeah, that week I'm
>> okay. Available.

1113
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,960
» Okay. pretty much anytime.
>> I'm available then as well. So,

1114
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:55,040
» Commissioner Younger.
>> Yeah.

1115
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:59,920
» Do the 22nd. Just do it.
>> Do the the 22nd the fourth Tuesday.

1116
01:27:57,440 --> 01:28:02,880
» Yep. That goes with the clerk. And
>> that's good.

1117
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:06,400
» At what time?
>> 8:30.

1118
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,040
» That works for me. Just
>> I'm fine with that. Yes.

1119
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:12,320
» So 21st.
>> We'll do the 22nd the fourth. The fourth

1120
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,920
Tuesday.
>> Okay.

1121
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:20,400
» Yes. That works for my calendar. Uh, Mr.
Cheater, I just want to make sure that I

1122
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:24,639
do not need to publish anything correct.
I just need to make sure I get the

1123
01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:28,000
notice of hearing out to all affected
parties.

1124
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:31,840
» I'll have to re-review that statute, but
I think it only called for providing

1125
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:37,360
written notice.
>> Okay. to

1126
01:28:34,639 --> 01:28:41,120
rural water district number six and
>> right I did get all [clears throat]

1127
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:43,360
their addresses the uh owners of the
property

1128
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,000
» and then to the chief water engineer
>> and the chief engineer of the state

1129
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,120
water resource
>> that's all I read but like I said I just

1130
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,719
want to make sure that I
>> I'll reconfirm that

1131
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:58,239
» okay thank you
>> I guess can I ask the question why

1132
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:02,400
they're giving this territory up
>> they already gave it up but I have no

1133
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:06,800
that's that's trial county rural water
district.

1134
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:11,199
» So, Trio County gave it up and now Ellis
County Rural Water District number six

1135
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:14,639
wants to attach it to their property.
>> Okay. I thought it was something that

1136
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:18,639
they just had done here. Yeah. Recently,
but Okay.

1137
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:22,639
» Okay.
So, it'll be September 22nd at 8:30 in

1138
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,639
the morning.
>> Okay.

1139
01:29:27,679 --> 01:29:36,239
» Okay. County Commission reports.
I have none.

1140
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:39,440
» I don't have anything either.
>> Okay.

1141
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:46,719
» Okay. I guess the only thing I have is I
have nothing. Um but I would, you know,

1142
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:52,719
like to make the comment that
um how our hiring process has been going

1143
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:57,360
on. So, you know, how the wage study was
done and how many applicants we're

1144
01:29:55,040 --> 01:30:01,920
getting. Um, from when I first became
commission, it was like you'd get two or

1145
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:07,679
three and now we're getting dozens. And
um, which is nice, which comes back to

1146
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:12,800
uh, Mr. Worst's comment that, you know,
um, that pay scale is what brings a lot

1147
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:19,360
of people in and and good quality
people, which we've we've got. So,

1148
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:24,159
that's all I have and we have one
executive session.

1149
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:28,400
» Okay. Uh, at this time I'll move the
board of county commissioners recess to

1150
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:32,960
executive session for 20 minutes under
the following exception to the Kansas

1151
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:38,320
Open Meetings Act pursuant to attorney
client privilege exception. The subject

1152
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:45,760
to be discussed during the during the
executive session is solar litigation.

1153
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:49,600
Open session will resume at 10:15 in the
commission chambers. Those in attendance

1154
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:54,080
in addition to the board of county
commissioners are Bobby Dryling, Bill

1155
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,960
Jeter, and Darren Meyers.
>> Second.

1156
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,719
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. All
those in favor say I.

1157
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,719
» I.
>> I.

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» Everybody

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01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,320
go.

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» Heat. Heat.

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hey, hey. [music]
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» Heat. Heat.

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» Heat.
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» Heat.

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hey, hey.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat. [music]

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Heat. Heat.

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» Heat.
Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat.
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» No uh decisions were made and we will
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» Heat. Heat.
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