1 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:09,500 I got 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,860 the papers you don't, but you'll have to reach through the phone to sign everything. 3 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:27,620 Okay. I would like to welcome everybody out. We've got all the board members and engineers 4 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:29,520 Here's, Justin. 5 00:00:31,330 --> 00:00:32,000 Suzanne Anderson. 6 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:33,480 Suzanne Anderson. 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,200 Welcome to the meeting. 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,900 This is an open meeting for the public, 9 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:40,980 but it can attend. 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,140 We're glad you're here. 11 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,720 And Suzanne is with our Archives Department, 12 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:47,640 so she will talk about the digitization of records 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,900 for us on item three. 14 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:49,860 Okay. 15 00:00:52,410 --> 00:00:56,930 Approval of the minutes for July 13th. 16 00:00:56,930 --> 00:01:01,170 my commotion to approve. Anybody see any changes? 17 00:01:01,850 --> 00:01:07,990 I think I've pointed out just a couple and then I updated where to just add that Johan's 18 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:12,430 title was absent on the reports. So I've added that and then Bevin had just a couple 19 00:01:12,430 --> 00:01:20,230 little corrections. Yeah. So it's been moved that we approve the minutes with corrections. 20 00:01:21,490 --> 00:01:24,070 I'll make a motion approve the minutes with corrections. 21 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:32,170 It's been approved. It's been moved. Okay, sorry, and it is a second. Okay, all in favor? 22 00:01:32,490 --> 00:01:37,570 All right. Any comments? The eyes are above the nose. 23 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:45,590 Approval, we need a discussion. 24 00:01:47,550 --> 00:01:52,930 Digital digitization of the records of this Suzanne, do you want to talk about that a little bit? 25 00:01:54,790 --> 00:02:03,610 The main thing I think in this meeting is for the county to establish if you're interested 26 00:02:03,610 --> 00:02:10,030 in doing this and how many other districts might be interested in doing this. 27 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:16,110 Our commissioner is not here, that's usually here, but he might be able to add to that question 28 00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:16,690 we can. 29 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:17,390 Okay. 30 00:02:17,710 --> 00:02:18,330 At least I can. 31 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:19,670 Okay. 32 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:20,850 Here are. 33 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:24,910 Well, it would probably be a good idea for them to take a look at it at all. 34 00:02:25,950 --> 00:02:35,480 We can discuss however we want to start, we want to support the 35 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:41,490 service districts in 36 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:49,190 any way we can help you reserve your records, make them searchable, that any county archives 37 00:02:49,190 --> 00:03:00,210 is a standard-pointed regional repository for the state so that might be a 38 00:03:00,210 --> 00:03:00,630 pillar. 39 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:14,100 There are many phases to this kind of project and 40 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:17,210 the first thing we 41 00:03:17,210 --> 00:03:27,490 would need to do would be to get the equipment necessary and then hopefully 42 00:03:27,490 --> 00:03:28,690 Please start in January. 43 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,660 We don't have any equipment here. 44 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Have some that you, your district has maps. 45 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:45,690 Do they have maps that would need to be digitized 46 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:47,230 in your room? 47 00:03:48,010 --> 00:03:49,810 Like the big roll up maps and stuff. 48 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:51,390 Do you have maps? 49 00:03:52,090 --> 00:03:54,570 Yeah, there's maps that they might be digitized already. 50 00:03:55,570 --> 00:03:56,430 Do you know, Merrill? 51 00:03:56,430 --> 00:04:05,990 Well, ours probably are, once we file, but you probably have a copy of the same ones. 52 00:04:06,410 --> 00:04:06,770 Yeah. 53 00:04:07,810 --> 00:04:09,390 They raise some of my obscene mail. 54 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:10,050 Yes. 55 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:12,350 And we can use the county. 56 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:15,450 They have a large scanner down in the recorder's office. 57 00:04:16,230 --> 00:04:23,490 So that equipment, if there are maps or news, there's options as far as standing equipment. 58 00:04:23,490 --> 00:04:43,710 We can use scanners or we can use a camera setup where we would buy tripod cameras, you know, the cords and things that would take the image from the camera onto the laptop and then do all the things you need to do in the capture and face. 59 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:47,330 What do you recommend? 60 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:57,740 there's pros and cons to both ways so if we if you choose to do this if you want 61 00:04:57,740 --> 00:05:02,860 to discuss going to more detail later we absolutely can if you want to do that 62 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:05,740 today we can I 63 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:14,300 think do you guys have ledgers hard-bound ledgers that would 64 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:24,960 need to be. Our audits are in book form. I don't know about hard bound because we could take the 65 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:36,690 little rigs out of them and still scan them. In that case the camera system will work for bound 66 00:05:36,690 --> 00:05:45,250 volumes but where these can be taken apart. Scanners we would not need a great big book cradle 67 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:52,050 scanner. That's the $14,000 one. Camers can do that instead of buying this huge 68 00:05:52,050 --> 00:06:01,570 piece of equipment. Yeah. So I can reach a pros and cons. What are our minutes in? 69 00:06:03,610 --> 00:06:08,310 Minutes or digitized or anything. So all of them right now are already digitized in 70 00:06:08,310 --> 00:06:19,570 files in our big shared county drive, but anything pre-probably 2016 right in 71 00:06:19,570 --> 00:06:24,010 there, I don't know that we have because that's about when we moved into this 72 00:06:24,010 --> 00:06:30,210 kind of shared Google Drive type storage. So those are probably written. Some of 73 00:06:30,210 --> 00:06:36,110 those are probably written. And we just need to get them scanned and make them 74 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:42,930 digital so and do you want them searchable once they're on once they're digitized 75 00:06:42,930 --> 00:06:48,430 do you want this information searchable that would require software I don't 76 00:06:48,430 --> 00:06:54,070 think so I don't know we need access to those products yes I was 77 00:06:54,750 --> 00:07:00,610 sure yes absolutely what's the point if we can't have any opportunity when the 78 00:07:00,610 --> 00:07:07,010 and look around. Yes. And so you know, it's, it all endures it's full of stuff. Yes. 79 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:15,870 You have about 10 to 12 cubic feet, but material is my estimation. Yeah. All the old files. 80 00:07:17,330 --> 00:07:27,300 Yes. And, and the old copies, the originals will need to be kept. You do not scan and then 81 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:36,100 throw that material away because digital equipment becomes obsolete. You can pick up a page 82 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:46,160 from a hard copy page from 1986 and still read it but that software that floppy 83 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:54,480 it is. They are gone. So, do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. You have to keep your hard 84 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:03,980 copy. Yeah. So, it's me. A catalog. The other reports are hard copies, 85 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:07,340 but they can make 86 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:15,200 them into digitized copies. Sure. Absolutely. And that helps you guys search and do what 87 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:25,620 we need to do quicker and it lessens the exposure to life handling further damage. It decreases that, so the hard copies last longer. 88 00:08:27,460 --> 00:08:39,580 But also on the reverse side we would need two forms. We would need to have like an iPod storage and we would need storage here like a hard drive. 89 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:47,280 hard drives can be corrupted, it can be. I don't think it happens very often, but that does 90 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:55,840 happen once in a while. So that's a, that's really difficult. Is there any way that it transfer 91 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:03,060 the digitized copy of the prints? You guys should have all of those just over to these files. 92 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:05,540 I would have imagined. 93 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:07,360 I don't 94 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,580 know how much we have digitized. 95 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,380 We started that, but that is a slow process. 96 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,980 It's a lot of work. 97 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,340 And it takes a long time. 98 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:21,980 It's good. 99 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:24,480 It's a good thing, but it takes a long time 100 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,580 and it's a single page by page. 101 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:29,400 So it is up we have, I'm sure we could. 102 00:09:30,020 --> 00:09:32,700 Is it quicker to scan the prints? 103 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:39,700 That's, if we have prints, so what we have is just a little scanner, 104 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,620 that's how we've 105 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:47,800 been, 106 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,880 and then the bigger ones we've 107 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:04,520 got to, well this scanner you got down there for 108 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:13,760 the big prints will do the 20 inch, who I actually, we've seen her does, they work, you 109 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,700 do, and you're in department, so she knows what's going on, how long do you think you'd 110 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:29,060 take you to do it all. I have no idea. No idea. The process, once you scan the image, then you go in, 111 00:10:29,260 --> 00:10:37,520 in the capture phase, and you profit, and you prove the image, and then you give it an identification 112 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:44,160 number or a catalog number. Yeah. There's nothing quick or fast about this process. 113 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,880 It's very detailed, 114 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:54,560 it's like my throat. Little tiny steps just but nothing magic about it. Nothing magic 115 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:59,720 about it. But it would be good. 116 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,880 So you're giving us as to make it cost the 15,000 a year 117 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:13,680 to start to kind of start that. Is that what that's saying? Part of this is my wages. That's 118 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:22,300 I'm just wondering if we paid you for a year and got the ball rolling there and see where we ended up in a year. 119 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:31,170 And right now we're thinking we may not need a book scanner, right? 120 00:11:31,490 --> 00:11:35,190 Which is the big cradle, because we use cameras. 121 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:37,710 Unless we get in there and see that we need one. 122 00:11:38,390 --> 00:11:40,230 Yes, especially where you can take yours apart. 123 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:51,930 I don't think we will and the more the state instructs me and teaches me about all this this process and that's another plus the state has 124 00:11:52,650 --> 00:12:00,830 My back or whatever they will come in and anything we run into that we're not familiar with or they'll come down 125 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:04,830 I can write my programs and they'll be here and 126 00:12:06,610 --> 00:12:08,870 Help facilitate this process 127 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:18,750 So, would it be pretty close estimate to say about 20,000 a year if we don't have to have the book scanner purchased? 128 00:12:19,130 --> 00:12:19,450 Correct. 129 00:12:20,210 --> 00:12:24,050 Because the 15-7, that's just the labor. 130 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:25,790 That's the labor side of that labor. 131 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:31,590 The library also wants to partner with this project. 132 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:39,710 They want to be involved and they have access to grants and abilities to get equipment. 133 00:12:40,850 --> 00:12:42,510 where the archives doesn't, 134 00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:47,340 and then they would be able to use this equipment. 135 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,740 And that had cut the cost for us too. 136 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:49,940 Yes, it was. 137 00:12:50,740 --> 00:12:51,880 And it was shared. 138 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,760 And also donations. 139 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,320 People have mentioned if there's projects that come up for the archives, 140 00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:04,750 they would help fund projects for the county. 141 00:13:05,270 --> 00:13:07,490 So there's also donations that would help, 142 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:10,250 especially the purchase of the equipment. 143 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:18,900 Well, open for discussion, what do you think board motion? 144 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,760 What do you think Wade? 145 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:32,780 I agree. 146 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:37,540 Yeah, I soon need to get a start of the sooner you'll complete it, 147 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:05,590 but entertain the motion 148 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:07,870 then to get Susan started on this. 149 00:14:08,670 --> 00:14:16,170 And then you can maybe plan on reporting to each meeting of your progress. 150 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:16,990 Absolutely. 151 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:19,370 and I could keep it. 152 00:14:21,330 --> 00:14:29,670 Yes, I will keep a time sheet, so you guys will be able to see hours, days, it should 153 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:37,990 be five hours, ten hours, every word period, but you guys will keep track of the time spent 154 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:38,550 doing this. 155 00:14:39,650 --> 00:14:46,590 So we would share these equipment costs with the library at this point, at least the library. 156 00:14:48,770 --> 00:14:50,590 We'll see what they can do to help. 157 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:56,830 And then what about finding out if other districts are interested? 158 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:59,610 That will be our next step after this meeting. 159 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:29,500 And then we can come back with a more updated inter-local agreement once we know who is all, who everyone that's participating in how we'll split costs. And this, this 15,000 is just our, that's just us, that wouldn't be split among other entities or would it? No, because that's your time spent on our records. That 15 is just her to do 10 hours per paid period on our stuff. Is that right, Susan? 160 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:37,060 in you know that's I'm unsure Megan knows best about that I've never done this 161 00:15:37,060 --> 00:15:42,160 before we're all on the learning curve right so well just with how it's written 162 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:50,560 that 15,000 is for 10 hours of your labor for us for a year for that or yep 163 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:57,980 for a year so 10 hours per pay period per year so if that's more than we need then 164 00:15:57,980 --> 00:16:02,800 that could go down because the other districts are going to have a similar thing while she's 165 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,980 going to put 10 hours towards us, she's going to put a certain number of hours towards 166 00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:06,280 them. 167 00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:10,820 So it's basically 20 hours a month, will that be right? 168 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:17,630 So it's a living document, that sounds like to me. 169 00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:19,050 I think so. 170 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:26,950 Well I would entertain the motion to get this process started and authorize Suzanne to go 171 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:27,950 ahead and start. 172 00:16:27,950 --> 00:16:36,550 I will move that we do that and that once we know who else is involved we can adjust 173 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:45,510 these costs accordingly but for now we would approve this as it's shown to us. 174 00:16:46,510 --> 00:16:56,700 So you're but as a show and you're showing that you're going to not the okay, yeah, okay. I'll second that motion. 175 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,580 All in favor? 176 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:58,480 All right. 177 00:16:58,980 --> 00:16:59,320 Okay. 178 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:07,100 I guess you can get going Suzanne and thank you for your thank you for your time and your talents. 179 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,160 This is what the archives was created for. 180 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:12,880 Let us know how we can help. 181 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,860 Thank you. Thank you very much. 182 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,460 By us being first, we should make sure that we get done first, if I was right. 183 00:17:23,220 --> 00:17:25,020 Absolutely. We have one question. 184 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,980 Do you guys, I'm assuming this will be like a dark archives. 185 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,340 And that means it's not open to the public. 186 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 For research or to look through your records, this is right. 187 00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:40,940 This is just private. 188 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:46,220 Yeah, unless there's a request, what do they call that? 189 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:47,780 It's protected by grandma, yes. 190 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,320 They can do a grandma request, but it's not just going to be, 191 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,800 like how people can just come in and go through 192 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,920 this Emory County Archives, this won't be one that they did. 193 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,720 That's one of those rules. 194 00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:57,640 That's one of those rules whenever they want to. 195 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,660 I had to find out for sure. 196 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,060 Yes. 197 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,020 And it's great to have private, everybody does, you know, have private archives. 198 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:07,180 They're private information, and that's great. 199 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,140 But I need to make sure. 200 00:18:09,140 --> 00:18:11,660 Okay, thank you very much. 201 00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:13,800 Okay, thank you. 202 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,180 Next is the 203 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:25,900 number four, the engineer's report. 204 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:37,160 I'm supposed to be over this road up here. 205 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,660 I've been up there a few times this week. 206 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,240 The last week and talk to Howard about it. 207 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,240 And it's come along. 208 00:18:45,380 --> 00:18:47,260 Looks like they're in the whole mode right now. 209 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:51,340 They haven't done anything for a week or more. 210 00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:53,440 I don't know anything about that. 211 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:54,640 I don't know if there's anything to that. 212 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,900 Must be waiting to rise as far as I can. 213 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,340 No. 214 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:58,240 All right. 215 00:18:58,580 --> 00:18:59,480 Let's keep seeing that. 216 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,380 Joe's out here. 217 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:00,920 No. 218 00:19:01,420 --> 00:19:03,520 He moved all over the cruise to Joe's out here. 219 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:04,300 Okay. 220 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,420 Cool. 221 00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:06,660 Anyway. 222 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:08,880 Okay. 223 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,500 The first one is Warwick's. 224 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,660 That project started finally. 225 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,900 After we got all the power poles moved. 226 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,880 We've got all the grubbing that's completed and we've hauled it up by the cemetery and 227 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,060 still just piled along the side of the cemetery, looks pretty bad right now. 228 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:38,460 But the reason that Sarah knocked first off is because when we get to the top we go take 229 00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:40,740 that asphalt off the edges of the road. 230 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:48,380 So we're leaving that, because we've got to vary the asphalt once we've disturbed it. 231 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,940 So what we've seen is, I'm sure, the left is not piled still there, you know, we're still 232 00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:56,180 off. 233 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,660 We've got to vary that asphalt with it, and everything will be varied there. 234 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:01,940 Yes. 235 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680 It will be installing down a traction ride. 236 00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:10,080 So that brings the track co-op and just Ray co-op that down. 237 00:20:11,730 --> 00:20:13,330 The material's there on site. 238 00:20:13,530 --> 00:20:14,170 Did you hear Wade? 239 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:16,590 Between the grubbing and everything. 240 00:20:16,990 --> 00:20:18,030 Did you hear Wade? 241 00:20:18,330 --> 00:20:21,150 He says you used to bring the back co-op, break all that stuff up. 242 00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:21,770 No. 243 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:22,590 Just break it. 244 00:20:22,790 --> 00:20:23,930 Break it down to the bottom. 245 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,500 We were in time, yes. 246 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:37,650 I have one little problem in front of the local residents. 247 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:43,850 I never did tie in to them, but I served my guys and the contractor did. 248 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:52,570 There's two great big common trees inside the right way, but they really don't affect 249 00:20:52,570 --> 00:21:00,570 the right way, and they were all upset that it was going to take them as a bunch of scrub 250 00:21:00,570 --> 00:21:02,210 trees right around it. 251 00:21:02,590 --> 00:21:08,130 So what I done was I removed all the scrub trees out of there and I left those two big clumps 252 00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:12,820 and pees in the public. 253 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:14,140 How'd you like that way? 254 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,120 I'm pretty good. Nothing can come out in the roadway. 255 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:26,090 No, we're all right that way. It's just when you say tree huggers. 256 00:21:28,770 --> 00:21:33,910 She was ballin' and carryin' on. I don't get to it, or I think I'll get to it. 257 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:39,110 Well those cottonwoods are going away unless they find some water for them. 258 00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:42,170 They'll go away by themselves. 259 00:21:43,910 --> 00:21:52,630 Well, the fans, we can get the right away, fans through, and we'll be there, but all 260 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:57,630 the rubbish and all the brush and everything else is gone. 261 00:21:58,370 --> 00:21:59,930 That looks pretty good through there. 262 00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:01,410 Yes, it does. 263 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:03,070 Got there this morning. 264 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:07,350 They had three trucks there ready to dump. 265 00:22:08,150 --> 00:22:27,410 I stopped the project, instead of flaggers, I got traffic lights and traffic lights was up and then the material had been processed and none of the subways had been processed so I stopped the project today and they're now doing nothing more than cleaning up. 266 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:41,350 I told them to go to the pilot process that clean things up and they're doing that now. 267 00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:44,270 I let them dump the tree to make sure the truck's there. 268 00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:49,030 They're bringing in a track hole and they're going to mix all that up and get it taken 269 00:22:49,030 --> 00:22:49,470 care of. 270 00:22:50,250 --> 00:22:53,590 It was a matter of the left not knowing what the ride was doing. 271 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:59,750 When you got two, four of them, you got Chuck, and you got Elliot, and it was a very 272 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:01,090 well-good communication. 273 00:23:01,970 --> 00:23:07,950 Anyway, the project stopped for right now for two days to lay straightened it up, and 274 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:09,410 I accept it for 275 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:12,270 that's that. 276 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:17,110 Okay. 277 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:21,710 It was a little discussion this morning. 278 00:23:23,670 --> 00:23:24,730 Cottonwood Canyon. 279 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:27,230 It's been shut down for two weeks. 280 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:33,230 weeks, what one week and one day. I'm not sure if they're going to start back up tomorrow 281 00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:44,550 or not, but I like what's going on. I heard there was some complaining, but I don't have 282 00:23:44,550 --> 00:23:49,630 any problems with it. They brought in some small rock. I made them take all that out of 283 00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:55,290 there, and then they brought in road bays for Dranger Barrow. Made them take that out of 284 00:23:55,290 --> 00:24:00,950 there. And we've got everything back where it should be now. All the tests are 285 00:24:00,950 --> 00:24:08,550 coming in good. And I really have no problems with the project. Other than getting it done. 286 00:24:09,570 --> 00:24:13,990 When it's done to get completed, they don't need it. You know, when do you have that? 287 00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:19,070 This one. You can tell you right there. Which is seven, you know? 288 00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:29,250 August 27 August and if they get on to it they can't complete it or there's not much left there no 289 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:38,310 all we got to do is put down the road base that right that grout of rock is get a 290 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:44,990 test because I would reject it 90% of it so far because they're not doing it like 291 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:51,870 on it. So they got to remove a bunch of it and come back in straightened it up. That's 292 00:24:51,870 --> 00:24:59,350 a big killer to them. But we'll get it. The brother brought in a new form and it knows 293 00:24:59,350 --> 00:25:07,530 what he's doing now. And I like the way things are shaping up right now. So then we have 294 00:25:07,530 --> 00:25:21,540 a payment of $83,280, and that $83,283,280.33. 295 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,180 There's a lot of traffic up there. The 296 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:31,280 flaggers are handling it, handling it good. 297 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:37,350 Once they said there was no flaggers there, 298 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:44,550 so I grabbed everybody and held them and made me night everything on and on, but I think 299 00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:49,970 I think there are things going fine, just a matter of time to get to complete. 300 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,320 How many traps can I use? 301 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,880 Trucks? 302 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,300 I don't know. 303 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,540 I've had 12 lines up for one time. 304 00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:04,700 Do you think that this is going to be big enough when we get it? 305 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:05,060 No. 306 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:07,800 I wonder what I was wondering. 307 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,440 I've already experienced. 308 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,700 We're designed for 7 traps. 309 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,200 I've already backed up 15. 310 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:17,360 You might have to have it. 311 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,200 We're going to find out, but when they shut that mine down, that long wall goes down, and 312 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,180 they've got all these trucks coming in, and they just sit there. 313 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:41,860 Can I say something? 314 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:43,140 Yeah, go ahead. 315 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,740 in those meetings we've had with 316 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,380 us too much traffic on that road 317 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:16,850 we 318 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:31,600 forced it 319 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,140 out to seven drive 320 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:41,230 again but it's not well the day I was up there there was I 321 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:48,810 think I counted five trucks and they went down past where our project is so 322 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:49,890 which makes sense 323 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:53,220 yeah yeah 324 00:28:55,690 --> 00:29:02,130 it eliminates the passing lane that we made 325 00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:10,250 Once you get them trucks stockpiled then you're backing up the main line. Are you counting two in the yard? 326 00:29:11,050 --> 00:29:12,730 No, I'm counting my own the road. 327 00:29:14,890 --> 00:29:17,630 I didn't think it had a whole set of three or four in the yard. 328 00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:23,130 Big one. I know I counted two, maybe three, but not four. 329 00:29:25,290 --> 00:29:31,350 They can't put four in the yard. I think on the four end they could actually have four inside the mine. 330 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:32,370 Well, 331 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,700 I wonder who's going to police this for us. 332 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:39,880 I mean, that's very well. 333 00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:41,360 County. 334 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,280 County. 335 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,620 Just share our thoughts. 336 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,540 What do you think, Justin, about policing the trucks? 337 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,020 Do we have to do that? 338 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:54,760 We know. 339 00:29:55,220 --> 00:29:55,640 That's me. 340 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,460 Somebody has to stop in it. 341 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,020 Yeah. 342 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Do another laying down further. 343 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:30,040 There's not a lot of traffic up that cottonwood canyon, but it will improve some. Once we get the lanes in there, it'll improve. Right now we've got a one lane. That's all traffic when the flagings go down to one lane. 344 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:41,220 The other right-hand lane is used for construction, so it will improve some wall, but there's a lot of traffic cut there. 345 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,240 As long as the wall walls run in and go in, there's not a problem. 346 00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:52,140 But when that wall wall goes down, it don't take long to back up. 347 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,260 I think it's good to put together and see where we're at. 348 00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:04,680 Yeah. Yeah, once it's done, you know, that's when that needs to take effect. 349 00:31:16,990 --> 00:31:23,750 And they'll back up traffic up down the canyon, too. Yeah. 350 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:30,950 It's been that same bunch. So I think once we get it done, it will improve, but I guess it's 351 00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:36,290 the way to see what we've got. Well, that's not too far off in that completion date. 352 00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:41,790 We're going to be done by the first September. We should know on our next meeting where we're at. 353 00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:43,050 Yeah, we will. 354 00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,170 We'll have it done by the next reading. 355 00:31:48,090 --> 00:31:50,250 Any more questions about that? 356 00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:52,810 Anybody? No. 357 00:31:53,390 --> 00:32:02,470 On the financial side of that project, I know that there was talk about the mind paying half of it and us paying half of it. 358 00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:05,730 Who's working on that? 359 00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:18,490 Okay, so that part is done. So then the other side to that is, I've sent our request to pay our portion of the project with 360 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:29,450 Inland Port County and we presented it, but we don't, they didn't really give us an answer. So we still don't know on that. 361 00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:36,910 So as soon as we get an answer on that, I will let you know, but it is not a 362 00:32:36,910 --> 00:32:43,630 for sure thing. So you play 50% of the project? Yeah, what we did on our request was, I 363 00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:50,490 believe it was up to $200,000 as the first request. So we thought that would give a 364 00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:57,450 little cushion if there were change orders or things for our half of it. It's been 365 00:32:57,450 --> 00:33:05,330 requested they've reviewed it but they have not told us yes or no all right 366 00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:29,300 we'll wait for an update on that any other discussion on on that you got 367 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:39,120 you got this hey yes that was where the 83 came from wasn't it yeah the Trinity 368 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,450 to email them to me. Okay. Okay. Change orders. 369 00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:46,230 Good. 370 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Bevin, give us an update on the history book. 371 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,980 Okay, our history book is coming along that real good job. 372 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,600 We're almost to the point now that we can start putting this on this step together in sequence 373 00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:17,120 as if it was ready to go to the printer so that we could get a better panel on what we've 374 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:24,060 done and if we did a different chapter, different sections in there that needs additional information 375 00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:30,340 together then we would review that with the overall history book project still 376 00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:33,100 really well. 377 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,820 Any questions on history book? No, we thank you for your efforts on 378 00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:50,860 that. Okay, make your release report. Yeah, it's all about that. And that will take us into 379 00:34:50,860 --> 00:34:53,640 to the money that I reported last time 380 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,880 that the carbon county R&T District 381 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,140 owes Amory County special service to the city. 382 00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:06,520 And I had a meeting with Linda Ballard 383 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,020 and Greg Morsing on this. 384 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:12,960 And they handled a bookkeeping and everything 385 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:17,080 and might even be paying the bills for that district over there. 386 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:26,880 and they were in the district and then they had what came out of our meeting was that 387 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:37,620 they would pay back to that carbon district and the figure of about 312,000 approximately 388 00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:39,880 that they still hold on. 389 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:46,580 As a result of this hardship grant, there was issue two, as 390 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,860 a result of a lot of things. 391 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:58,340 But this is the second time that we've been through one of these hardship grants. 392 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:03,860 And so, but they'll get that information back to their industry. 393 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:08,360 But it may not happen until in their September meeting. 394 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,300 Their district meeting is the same day as ours. 395 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:18,280 But they have there at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, we have ours in the morning and so it's just now. 396 00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:21,860 It's just a wait to see. So we may not hear about it all over. 397 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:31,160 Yes, you should have some information about October as to how they plan on paying this. 398 00:36:32,140 --> 00:36:40,240 Now there's some things that have been that moment around and has to how they pay. 399 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:49,340 Now, this district still owes $770,671.18. 400 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,140 That's on the hardship, right? 401 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:52,640 That's on the hardship, right? 402 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,680 The distribution report too, Megan, that you give. 403 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,420 And it's over there for the right hand column there. 404 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,500 But that, and this money that they owe is their share 405 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:20,140 of this $770,000, $760,000, $392. 406 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,220 So that's carbon nitric share that amount of money. 407 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,020 So I may pay that $300,000. 408 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,560 To me the ideal would work something out 409 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,140 where that money could actually go right back and be reduced from that 700,000 instead of just 410 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:50,360 taking the money and putting it in a holding into your bank account or whatever. 411 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:58,440 And I think there's ways to possibly doing that. And I attempted to get all the 412 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:04,580 Greg morcing and explain because we've kind of run out of time on our meeting and we didn't get 413 00:38:04,580 --> 00:38:06,120 into how they would pay. 414 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,720 But if we could do like times past on that 4076 415 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,980 kind of line, my lease, we'd done a monthly transfer 416 00:38:17,060 --> 00:38:20,760 on their share of that portal revenue. 417 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,240 There will be up with my MMS recourse. 418 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,160 And that's been going on for several years on that. 419 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,780 But if we could work out a shift, 420 00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:45,000 But an agreement with Carman R&T District, where we would take maybe 50% say of their monthly 421 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,920 revenue and apply that to the 300,000 that they owe the district. 422 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,020 And we could just do a transfer on that. 423 00:38:56,020 --> 00:39:03,520 And that could be done without ever having to get the money into the district and pay it back over here. 424 00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:09,920 And to me, that would be ideal if that district would go along with that. 425 00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:11,240 I agree. 426 00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:21,780 And like I said, it would then put their money back to paying the debtorness that they share of that debtorness. 427 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:30,380 It would be a lot better way of getting that money paid as to, but that's still to be worked 428 00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:30,860 out. 429 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:41,540 So we don't know that I would like to, if the board's okay with that, I'd like to move 430 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:42,320 in that direction. 431 00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:49,480 Who do we owe that money to, or to whom do we owe that money, that $700,000? 432 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,320 Well, they're taking it as a credit against their famous to us. 433 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120 That's over 700,000,000. 434 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,900 Who is it? 435 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,200 It's the old ring. 436 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:00,020 It's the old ring. 437 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:07,760 What they down, they give old ring and credit and charge it to every county, San P County, 438 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,100 and severe county. 439 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,040 That's the three counties with the coal production in the state of Utah. 440 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,340 And it was coal-related. 441 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:19,520 Okay, so they chose the portion of that. 442 00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:23,160 Now, severe counties was 1.17 million. 443 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,720 Sandpeace was 1.17 million. 444 00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:32,140 And in Henry counties was 700,000 per se, so. 445 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:38,500 And what they do, they be in state finance. 446 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,780 They just take it out of future revenue. 447 00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:56,820 And, of course, every county without coal production now, their revenue, this is a 448 00:40:56,820 --> 00:41:04,400 jewellery port, but their revenue, monthly revenue was that it actually could come into 449 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:11,120 county with $5,000 to $2,000 to $79.00. Well, the $5,000 a month is going to take a long time, 450 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:22,060 and they said $900,000, so but there is a possibility that once a rock gets all these credits 451 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:29,540 used up as we talked about before and the ranch staircase paid off, that their royalty 452 00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:40,000 payments would come back into and be distributed with like skyline mine up there as a royalty 453 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,500 payment on the report, and that would start putting money revenue back into Emily County. 454 00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:58,260 And I can't seem to get any definite projections out of also wrong people. 455 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,820 I've even thought a little bit about trying to set up a meeting with some of those people 456 00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:11,200 we can get some projections or get them to tell us where they're at on getting all 457 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:18,060 that worked out. And the bottom line is, okay, it's also up. Why don't you start paying 458 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:21,700 royally? And then putting some money back into every county. 459 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:26,740 So we just, but that's still 460 00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:35,680 in the process of something, an option we might look at. People won't pursue, other than 461 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,920 you sit and wait and wonder. 462 00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:49,760 So that's about Marley Port on the middle of the lease and 463 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:56,340 and many that told me that every county, again, it's just kind of way to see how things 464 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:59,480 come together and what we look at when she has. 465 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,100 I got a question on that, but last time we okayed for you to talk to an attorney, where 466 00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:06,800 did that go? 467 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:16,880 I talked to one attorney, Michael Janssen in Price, who is working my association with him 468 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,160 as he created our family trust. 469 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880 And I mean, the process, since the loss of my wife 470 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,520 is reviewing our trust. 471 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,260 So I asked Michael if he could, if something came up, 472 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:33,900 that we needed some legal help with collecting this money, 473 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:37,920 if he would be available to handle that for us. 474 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,240 And he come back and said that he had a conflict of interest 475 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:46,120 because he had done some work for some of the owners there. 476 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,540 of that spirit of which the county company. 477 00:43:51,440 --> 00:44:01,480 So his recommendation was go to Nick Sampenos, might be available, or brought to Hanson, 478 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:12,240 and had an opportunity to visit with Brock, and he didn't say yes, he'd help us, and he 479 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:13,400 didn't say no, he wouldn't. 480 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:23,720 He's a very busy man, but what he did say, he becomes to pretty unique some legal help and he wants to see if I can help you. 481 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:36,480 He says, put together a spreadsheet so I know what I'm dealing with, pack it probably, that we would have to educate him on what's going on. 482 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:45,920 But I think, for an attorney, I think what I get out of the broth is that he would probably 483 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,440 be willing to help us out on this if he would leave those campsite leaders. 484 00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:53,300 But things are coming to get us there too. 485 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:59,420 But instead, or in addition, you met with the great director Marcin. 486 00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:29,520 Whoever else. And hopefully it's going to move forward without. We hope we can work it out. We won't even need any legal help. Okay. But yeah, that would be the best. The problem is you get fighting over two, three hundred thousand. You can burn that out of the no time. And attorney. Yeah. Yeah. And and if it didn't, if it didn't want to happen to go to court, it would be for this amount of us that they owed plus all legal and attorney fees that we would go in. 487 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:36,220 if we want. Request the payment on if we want. So we would make them pay our attorney fees. 488 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:44,400 But to both parties the advantage to work this out. That's the course I think that we're 489 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:53,000 taking at present time. Yes. Just a way of trying to work through it. It need be. I thought 490 00:45:53,000 --> 00:46:00,820 myself about going to Carman County commissioners. I can see which Carman County 491 00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:06,860 commissioners is over that works with that district. If we need to put a 492 00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:12,320 pressure on that board to help them come around and make a decision to get 493 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:21,260 this paid peacefully and move on there's a possibility and I may reach out to 494 00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:29,740 perhaps Mr. Jensen and say, hey, can you help us with the situation? But I hate to, 495 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:38,280 I hate to go any farther than I have to if it's not needed so. I like the board to know 496 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,040 where I'm at, where I'm going, so if you have any questions or concerns, you know, you 497 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:51,460 You can share it with me and rein me in or I'll get the food back to me or what did 498 00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:56,960 I ever be in and manage to have a meeting with their board like our two districts meet 499 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,940 on this or would that not be good I might muddy the water right now. 500 00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:04,540 I don't think so. 501 00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:04,980 You don't think so. 502 00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:05,680 I'm just asking. 503 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,380 I don't think it would be necessary. 504 00:47:07,380 --> 00:47:15,520 Okay. Unless, unless, unless all other avenues there. 505 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,800 It might be, and I've even thought 506 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:32,960 about perhaps myself going to one of their meetings. It may be, so I think I can talk to all 507 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,040 their board, they're going to see the makers, and it may be, but I don't know. I hope 508 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:47,720 they don't go that. But if the time comes, that's an option we can look at. I just, I like 509 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:52,800 it better when you sit next to the people and talk to them, you know, and then that's why 510 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:58,840 I think that about me going to one of their board meetings. If necessary, but if I go, I want 511 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,700 to come in here with me. 512 00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:01,160 That's good. 513 00:48:01,340 --> 00:48:02,100 Yeah, for sure. 514 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,680 And I see it. 515 00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:08,560 We can't persuade him to just come on, guys, girls. 516 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,420 You know what, pay it. 517 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,200 And we won't know the answer to that question until October, 518 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,380 because of that meeting. 519 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:16,680 Yeah. 520 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,960 And there, right there, except here we're meeting, we should have. 521 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:32,500 And hopefully I can lend a bowler, she's over in Florida, and I hope some of her family 522 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:39,660 moved into an old home, and Greg Washington had to be gone some more for this meeting. 523 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:49,240 And so we didn't know what we needed to get, just to report to the chairman of the Errol 524 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,460 So it's just, again, we've seen it. 525 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:54,620 That's the possibility it only comes with that. 526 00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:58,640 Well, I think we'll do whatever we have to to try 527 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,520 to get this figured out. 528 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,680 Let's find both of the little deductum 529 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,660 and out of the royal repayments over a period of time. 530 00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:08,300 And then just take it directly into the, 531 00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:10,520 against the 300,000. 532 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,700 Against, we take the 300,000, like a check of time. 533 00:49:16,820 --> 00:49:18,860 Over a period of time. 534 00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:19,220 Yeah. 535 00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:23,680 And get this, uh, 536 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,740 people that makes this, uh, this 537 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:32,360 spreadsheet and does the pay and get them to just make that 538 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,040 transfer. Right, right. Right from the print to their, their 539 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:44,060 requirements revenue, uh, or to the, to this, uh, this credit 540 00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:44,980 That's a credit on that. 541 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:46,540 700 out of $0.00. 542 00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:47,400 Get rid of that credit. 543 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,900 Then eventually what? 544 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,160 It would get down there. 545 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,520 The money that they owed because of this hardship grant 546 00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:59,840 would go by, instead of the money coming in the district 547 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,200 and perhaps you eventually just have to make a distribution 548 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,740 or it. 549 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,120 And then it would just have many more years 550 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,680 And I'm trying to get it paid off with every county district revenue. 551 00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:21,180 Do we have any idea what money would come in once they're done with that hardship grant? 552 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,020 We'll come into us on that. 553 00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:25,300 That's why he's trying to get the meeting with mine. 554 00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:29,980 But he's dealt with those enough, like off those mines. 555 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,100 What ballpark, what is a mine-producing taxes? 556 00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:34,020 Okay. 557 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:45,560 The money that would come in, I think our reported last month, the skyline mine had started 558 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:53,820 up a minor section, and they've got a little crew working up to the Utah County employees 559 00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:55,560 working in that mine. 560 00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:04,160 Now the revenue on the for for for for the June report 561 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,960 and carbon share of that and this represents 40% is $342. 562 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,440 So there's not much money there that we can be coming in. 563 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680 Almost like to take 100 years. 564 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,840 Almost nothing. 565 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,560 So that's if the hardship grant goes away, that's what they're going to pay in. 566 00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:30,820 Under the current mining operation as it is today. 567 00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:32,520 That's the skyline. 568 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:36,700 All right, well, Foss Rocks, they got a long wall going and all that. 569 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,140 He's just talking a minor section. 570 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:45,800 Now Foss Rock, I should know this, are all of what mining lease sections in Henry County, 571 00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:49,420 under the Foss Rock, are they in the south gate? 572 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,840 So the longwall and everything that we're all in here can't handle that, we're not 573 00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,640 splitting that. 574 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:09,820 Now there is a possibility of all the lighting down our emery, if they move out into some 575 00:52:09,820 --> 00:52:15,080 better releases there and then again that I think those better releases are pretty close 576 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:22,980 to severe county. And again, it's just a way to see. That's what local mining is 577 00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:28,480 operating on now is private ground. So what they're mining now is no revenue. 578 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,800 And the every mine is never paid any mineral lease mines. So what they've been 579 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,020 mine is on the private ground and then some of the, the, the, the, the 580 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:45,680 possible rock of the forest. We have hopes that they'll get all 581 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,360 these other stuff paid and out of the way and that they don't 582 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:55,320 bother any more of our ship grants and then, and we hope to get 583 00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:03,320 a revenue stream coming back in because we can't, we can't find 584 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:10,140 now and hear any word that they will ever go by program in the sand and start producing 585 00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:11,680 what they wasn't on time. 586 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,140 They're pretty there. 587 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,140 We just got into that minor section. 588 00:53:17,420 --> 00:53:25,440 But they are that minor section is apparently on this 4076 leases, the split leases between 589 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,520 Kerbin and McKinley. 590 00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:28,220 It's where they're mining. 591 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,140 Now 592 00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:46,180 You have a question wait 593 00:53:58,470 --> 00:54:06,950 Have it that's all out of us anyways, isn't it? No, that's that that's that 28 28 split 594 00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:11,830 Okay, they're 595 00:54:17,170 --> 00:54:19,630 still real like crazy on I 596 00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:25,100 think that's the direction. They're looking at in the future 597 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:28,640 The scenes are wide enough 598 00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:32,840 But that's still gonna be I think most 599 00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:45,720 Yeah, there is a whole line up. Well cat 600 00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:54,940 They might be where they're in the north of Henry years ago. 601 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,540 They got a T.S.J. drove my train. 602 00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:04,700 They could run about the mines and figure out somewhere else. 603 00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:12,700 I think that I heard rumor that they're reserves in severe where they're at now 604 00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:16,220 is the only got two to three years left. 605 00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:18,580 That's what I'm hearing through the grave line. 606 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,980 But yeah, they're way from there. 607 00:55:23,860 --> 00:55:26,780 It's a long way to the face of where they're mungering coal now. 608 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:33,560 Yeah, so who knows, yeah, it's no other drill. 609 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,380 Any other questions? 610 00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:39,700 Well, let's pay the bills then. 611 00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:40,580 and I'll 612 00:55:43,690 --> 00:55:45,070 make a motion to pay in the bills. 613 00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:49,750 Well, I have a question on item seven 614 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:54,370 because it was specifically to work on negotiating 615 00:55:54,370 --> 00:55:55,970 a payment plan with Carbon County. 616 00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:57,410 So is your plan right now? 617 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:59,610 So did we kind of combine six and seven 618 00:55:59,610 --> 00:56:05,310 and your plan right now is see if we can get them 619 00:56:05,310 --> 00:56:08,990 to just chip away at the money owed to us. 620 00:56:12,510 --> 00:56:18,750 That's what we're at, yes, for authorizing them and to keep them in this trial. 621 00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:22,650 And hopefully by October we'll have some ideas. 622 00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:25,010 We'll have more information. 623 00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:26,650 Okay, 624 00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:34,860 so it feels to pay, just the usual, I would say. 625 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:41,240 Okay, we do have balance in the tunnel, so engineering on Lawrence East, Crackfield, 626 00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:47,280 2026, actually that one's, oh yeah, this will be the final on that, and then Cottonwood 627 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:55,220 Canyon road widening, so $38,350 there, we have food rent just for their refreshments for 628 00:56:55,220 --> 00:57:02,120 of the meeting Rocky Mountain Power is $98.55. 629 00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:03,980 The light bill, right? 630 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:04,280 Yep. 631 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,120 And then the cotton wood, this is the pay estimate number one. 632 00:57:11,420 --> 00:57:11,500 Yeah. 633 00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:15,740 So that's the 83,280 and 33 cents. 634 00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:19,700 And then we'll have just a $30 bill from the county. 635 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:27,060 Well, it's been moved to pay the bills, I hear a second, all in favor. 636 00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:27,800 Aye. 637 00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:28,740 Aye. 638 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,880 Motion carries. 639 00:57:34,070 --> 00:57:36,730 Board of the distribution, and there is no answer. 640 00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:42,570 So we might as well skip over that. 641 00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:48,830 Unless you want a motion to pay the, you think we had a move to pay the zero? 642 00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:49,510 We did. 643 00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:50,250 I think so. 644 00:57:50,590 --> 00:57:51,310 We did last. 645 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:53,870 Board. 646 00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:58,870 Board member reports and any other business that may be come before the board. 647 00:57:59,650 --> 00:58:07,010 I just real quick wanted to give a shout out to Justin and Williamson Cullo on that more 648 00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:07,890 cut off road. 649 00:58:08,090 --> 00:58:15,670 I have a lot of people telling me how much nicer that is since we chipped silver, per since 650 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:21,970 the county chipped, we chipped silver and did the crack selling, it's just a hundred percent 651 00:58:21,970 --> 00:58:22,270 bad. 652 00:58:22,270 --> 00:58:25,410 Yeah, yeah, I mean down it take a drive 653 00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:28,950 Time you got something right 654 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:32,790 Okay, 655 00:58:39,940 --> 00:58:42,880 that that brings us to the adjournment next meeting's 656 00:58:45,380 --> 00:58:47,900 September 14 14 657 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:56,350 Anybody want to get a adjourned motion? 658 00:58:57,110 --> 00:59:01,010 We usually do you don't have to have a motion you don't have to 659 00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:06,350 This meeting is adjourned then, did they forget their expense sheets? 660 00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:08,210 I'm signed, that's one.