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[0:08] I got
[0:11] the papers you don't, but you'll have to reach through the phone to sign everything.
[0:19] Okay. I would like to welcome everybody out. We've got all the board members and engineers
[0:27] Here's, Justin.
[0:31] Suzanne Anderson.
[0:32] Suzanne Anderson.
[0:34] Welcome to the meeting.
[0:37] This is an open meeting for the public,
[0:40] but it can attend.
[0:41] We're glad you're here.
[0:42] And Suzanne is with our Archives Department,
[0:44] so she will talk about the digitization of records
[0:47] for us on item three.
[0:49] Okay.
[0:52] Approval of the minutes for July 13th.
[0:56] my commotion to approve. Anybody see any changes?
[1:01] I think I've pointed out just a couple and then I updated where to just add that Johan's
[1:07] title was absent on the reports. So I've added that and then Bevin had just a couple
[1:12] little corrections. Yeah. So it's been moved that we approve the minutes with corrections.
[1:21] I'll make a motion approve the minutes with corrections.
[1:24] It's been approved. It's been moved. Okay, sorry, and it is a second. Okay, all in favor?
[1:32] All right. Any comments? The eyes are above the nose.
[1:43] Approval, we need a discussion.
[1:47] Digital digitization of the records of this Suzanne, do you want to talk about that a little bit?
[1:54] The main thing I think in this meeting is for the county to establish if you're interested
[2:03] in doing this and how many other districts might be interested in doing this.
[2:11] Our commissioner is not here, that's usually here, but he might be able to add to that question
[2:16] we can.
[2:17] Okay.
[2:17] At least I can.
[2:19] Okay.
[2:20] Here are.
[2:20] Well, it would probably be a good idea for them to take a look at it at all.
[2:25] We can discuss however we want to start, we want to support the
[2:38] service districts in
[2:41] any way we can help you reserve your records, make them searchable, that any county archives
[2:49] is a standard-pointed regional repository for the state so that might be a
[3:00] pillar.
[3:06] There are many phases to this kind of project and
[3:16] the first thing we
[3:17] would need to do would be to get the equipment necessary and then hopefully
[3:27] Please start in January.
[3:32] We don't have any equipment here.
[3:35] Have some that you, your district has maps.
[3:41] Do they have maps that would need to be digitized
[3:46] in your room?
[3:48] Like the big roll up maps and stuff.
[3:50] Do you have maps?
[3:52] Yeah, there's maps that they might be digitized already.
[3:55] Do you know, Merrill?
[3:56] Well, ours probably are, once we file, but you probably have a copy of the same ones.
[4:06] Yeah.
[4:07] They raise some of my obscene mail.
[4:09] Yes.
[4:11] And we can use the county.
[4:12] They have a large scanner down in the recorder's office.
[4:16] So that equipment, if there are maps or news, there's options as far as standing equipment.
[4:23] We can use scanners or we can use a camera setup where we would buy tripod cameras, you know, the cords and things that would take the image from the camera onto the laptop and then do all the things you need to do in the capture and face.
[4:46] What do you recommend?
[4:49] there's pros and cons to both ways so if we if you choose to do this if you want
[4:57] to discuss going to more detail later we absolutely can if you want to do that
[5:02] today we can I
[5:08] think do you guys have ledgers hard-bound ledgers that would
[5:14] need to be. Our audits are in book form. I don't know about hard bound because we could take the
[5:24] little rigs out of them and still scan them. In that case the camera system will work for bound
[5:36] volumes but where these can be taken apart. Scanners we would not need a great big book cradle
[5:45] scanner. That's the $14,000 one. Camers can do that instead of buying this huge
[5:52] piece of equipment. Yeah. So I can reach a pros and cons. What are our minutes in?
[6:03] Minutes or digitized or anything. So all of them right now are already digitized in
[6:08] files in our big shared county drive, but anything pre-probably 2016 right in
[6:19] there, I don't know that we have because that's about when we moved into this
[6:24] kind of shared Google Drive type storage. So those are probably written. Some of
[6:30] those are probably written. And we just need to get them scanned and make them
[6:36] digital so and do you want them searchable once they're on once they're digitized
[6:42] do you want this information searchable that would require software I don't
[6:48] think so I don't know we need access to those products yes I was
[6:54] sure yes absolutely what's the point if we can't have any opportunity when the
[7:00] and look around. Yes. And so you know, it's, it all endures it's full of stuff. Yes.
[7:07] You have about 10 to 12 cubic feet, but material is my estimation. Yeah. All the old files.
[7:17] Yes. And, and the old copies, the originals will need to be kept. You do not scan and then
[7:27] throw that material away because digital equipment becomes obsolete. You can pick up a page
[7:36] from a hard copy page from 1986 and still read it but that software that floppy
[7:46] it is. They are gone. So, do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. You have to keep your hard
[7:54] copy. Yeah. So, it's me. A catalog. The other reports are hard copies,
[8:06] but they can make
[8:07] them into digitized copies. Sure. Absolutely. And that helps you guys search and do what
[8:15] we need to do quicker and it lessens the exposure to life handling further damage. It decreases that, so the hard copies last longer.
[8:27] But also on the reverse side we would need two forms. We would need to have like an iPod storage and we would need storage here like a hard drive.
[8:40] hard drives can be corrupted, it can be. I don't think it happens very often, but that does
[8:47] happen once in a while. So that's a, that's really difficult. Is there any way that it transfer
[8:55] the digitized copy of the prints? You guys should have all of those just over to these files.
[9:04] I would have imagined.
[9:05] I don't
[9:09] know how much we have digitized.
[9:13] We started that, but that is a slow process.
[9:16] It's a lot of work.
[9:19] And it takes a long time.
[9:21] It's good.
[9:22] It's a good thing, but it takes a long time
[9:24] and it's a single page by page.
[9:26] So it is up we have, I'm sure we could.
[9:30] Is it quicker to scan the prints?
[9:32] That's, if we have prints, so what we have is just a little scanner,
[9:46] that's how we've
[9:47] been,
[9:52] and then the bigger ones we've
[10:00] got to, well this scanner you got down there for
[10:04] the big prints will do the 20 inch, who I actually, we've seen her does, they work, you
[10:13] do, and you're in department, so she knows what's going on, how long do you think you'd
[10:19] take you to do it all. I have no idea. No idea. The process, once you scan the image, then you go in,
[10:29] in the capture phase, and you profit, and you prove the image, and then you give it an identification
[10:37] number or a catalog number. Yeah. There's nothing quick or fast about this process.
[10:46] It's very detailed,
[10:47] it's like my throat. Little tiny steps just but nothing magic about it. Nothing magic
[10:54] about it. But it would be good.
[11:01] So you're giving us as to make it cost the 15,000 a year
[11:04] to start to kind of start that. Is that what that's saying? Part of this is my wages. That's
[11:17] I'm just wondering if we paid you for a year and got the ball rolling there and see where we ended up in a year.
[11:27] And right now we're thinking we may not need a book scanner, right?
[11:31] Which is the big cradle, because we use cameras.
[11:35] Unless we get in there and see that we need one.
[11:38] Yes, especially where you can take yours apart.
[11:40] I don't think we will and the more the state instructs me and teaches me about all this this process and that's another plus the state has
[11:52] My back or whatever they will come in and anything we run into that we're not familiar with or they'll come down
[12:00] I can write my programs and they'll be here and
[12:06] Help facilitate this process
[12:10] So, would it be pretty close estimate to say about 20,000 a year if we don't have to have the book scanner purchased?
[12:19] Correct.
[12:20] Because the 15-7, that's just the labor.
[12:24] That's the labor side of that labor.
[12:26] The library also wants to partner with this project.
[12:31] They want to be involved and they have access to grants and abilities to get equipment.
[12:40] where the archives doesn't,
[12:44] and then they would be able to use this equipment.
[12:47] And that had cut the cost for us too.
[12:49] Yes, it was.
[12:50] And it was shared.
[12:52] And also donations.
[12:55] People have mentioned if there's projects that come up for the archives,
[13:01] they would help fund projects for the county.
[13:05] So there's also donations that would help,
[13:08] especially the purchase of the equipment.
[13:15] Well, open for discussion, what do you think board motion?
[13:20] What do you think Wade?
[13:32] I agree.
[13:34] Yeah, I soon need to get a start of the sooner you'll complete it,
[14:04] but entertain the motion
[14:05] then to get Susan started on this.
[14:08] And then you can maybe plan on reporting to each meeting of your progress.
[14:16] Absolutely.
[14:16] and I could keep it.
[14:21] Yes, I will keep a time sheet, so you guys will be able to see hours, days, it should
[14:29] be five hours, ten hours, every word period, but you guys will keep track of the time spent
[14:37] doing this.
[14:39] So we would share these equipment costs with the library at this point, at least the library.
[14:48] We'll see what they can do to help.
[14:51] And then what about finding out if other districts are interested?
[14:57] That will be our next step after this meeting.
[15:00] And then we can come back with a more updated inter-local agreement once we know who is all, who everyone that's participating in how we'll split costs. And this, this 15,000 is just our, that's just us, that wouldn't be split among other entities or would it? No, because that's your time spent on our records. That 15 is just her to do 10 hours per paid period on our stuff. Is that right, Susan?
[15:29] in you know that's I'm unsure Megan knows best about that I've never done this
[15:37] before we're all on the learning curve right so well just with how it's written
[15:42] that 15,000 is for 10 hours of your labor for us for a year for that or yep
[15:50] for a year so 10 hours per pay period per year so if that's more than we need then
[15:57] that could go down because the other districts are going to have a similar thing while she's
[16:02] going to put 10 hours towards us, she's going to put a certain number of hours towards
[16:05] them.
[16:07] So it's basically 20 hours a month, will that be right?
[16:14] So it's a living document, that sounds like to me.
[16:18] I think so.
[16:19] Well I would entertain the motion to get this process started and authorize Suzanne to go
[16:26] ahead and start.
[16:27] I will move that we do that and that once we know who else is involved we can adjust
[16:36] these costs accordingly but for now we would approve this as it's shown to us.
[16:46] So you're but as a show and you're showing that you're going to not the okay, yeah, okay. I'll second that motion.
[16:57] All in favor?
[16:58] All right.
[16:58] Okay.
[16:59] I guess you can get going Suzanne and thank you for your thank you for your time and your talents.
[17:08] This is what the archives was created for.
[17:11] Let us know how we can help.
[17:12] Thank you. Thank you very much.
[17:14] By us being first, we should make sure that we get done first, if I was right.
[17:23] Absolutely. We have one question.
[17:26] Do you guys, I'm assuming this will be like a dark archives.
[17:32] And that means it's not open to the public.
[17:36] For research or to look through your records, this is right.
[17:39] This is just private.
[17:40] Yeah, unless there's a request, what do they call that?
[17:46] It's protected by grandma, yes.
[17:47] They can do a grandma request, but it's not just going to be,
[17:50] like how people can just come in and go through
[17:52] this Emory County Archives, this won't be one that they did.
[17:56] That's one of those rules.
[17:56] That's one of those rules whenever they want to.
[17:57] I had to find out for sure.
[17:59] Yes.
[18:00] And it's great to have private, everybody does, you know, have private archives.
[18:05] They're private information, and that's great.
[18:07] But I need to make sure.
[18:09] Okay, thank you very much.
[18:11] Okay, thank you.
[18:13] Next is the
[18:22] number four, the engineer's report.
[18:31] I'm supposed to be over this road up here.
[18:37] I've been up there a few times this week.
[18:39] The last week and talk to Howard about it.
[18:44] And it's come along.
[18:45] Looks like they're in the whole mode right now.
[18:47] They haven't done anything for a week or more.
[18:51] I don't know anything about that.
[18:53] I don't know if there's anything to that.
[18:54] Must be waiting to rise as far as I can.
[18:57] No.
[18:57] All right.
[18:58] Let's keep seeing that.
[18:59] Joe's out here.
[19:00] No.
[19:01] He moved all over the cruise to Joe's out here.
[19:04] Okay.
[19:05] Cool.
[19:06] Anyway.
[19:08] Okay.
[19:09] The first one is Warwick's.
[19:12] That project started finally.
[19:14] After we got all the power poles moved.
[19:19] We've got all the grubbing that's completed and we've hauled it up by the cemetery and
[19:25] still just piled along the side of the cemetery, looks pretty bad right now.
[19:31] But the reason that Sarah knocked first off is because when we get to the top we go take
[19:38] that asphalt off the edges of the road.
[19:41] So we're leaving that, because we've got to vary the asphalt once we've disturbed it.
[19:48] So what we've seen is, I'm sure, the left is not piled still there, you know, we're still
[19:55] off.
[19:56] We've got to vary that asphalt with it, and everything will be varied there.
[20:01] Yes.
[20:02] It will be installing down a traction ride.
[20:06] So that brings the track co-op and just Ray co-op that down.
[20:11] The material's there on site.
[20:13] Did you hear Wade?
[20:14] Between the grubbing and everything.
[20:16] Did you hear Wade?
[20:18] He says you used to bring the back co-op, break all that stuff up.
[20:21] No.
[20:21] Just break it.
[20:22] Break it down to the bottom.
[20:26] We were in time, yes.
[20:34] I have one little problem in front of the local residents.
[20:38] I never did tie in to them, but I served my guys and the contractor did.
[20:43] There's two great big common trees inside the right way, but they really don't affect
[20:52] the right way, and they were all upset that it was going to take them as a bunch of scrub
[21:00] trees right around it.
[21:02] So what I done was I removed all the scrub trees out of there and I left those two big clumps
[21:08] and pees in the public.
[21:13] How'd you like that way?
[21:16] I'm pretty good. Nothing can come out in the roadway.
[21:20] No, we're all right that way. It's just when you say tree huggers.
[21:28] She was ballin' and carryin' on. I don't get to it, or I think I'll get to it.
[21:35] Well those cottonwoods are going away unless they find some water for them.
[21:39] They'll go away by themselves.
[21:43] Well, the fans, we can get the right away, fans through, and we'll be there, but all
[21:52] the rubbish and all the brush and everything else is gone.
[21:58] That looks pretty good through there.
[22:00] Yes, it does.
[22:01] Got there this morning.
[22:03] They had three trucks there ready to dump.
[22:08] I stopped the project, instead of flaggers, I got traffic lights and traffic lights was up and then the material had been processed and none of the subways had been processed so I stopped the project today and they're now doing nothing more than cleaning up.
[22:27] I told them to go to the pilot process that clean things up and they're doing that now.
[22:41] I let them dump the tree to make sure the truck's there.
[22:44] They're bringing in a track hole and they're going to mix all that up and get it taken
[22:49] care of.
[22:50] It was a matter of the left not knowing what the ride was doing.
[22:53] When you got two, four of them, you got Chuck, and you got Elliot, and it was a very
[22:59] well-good communication.
[23:01] Anyway, the project stopped for right now for two days to lay straightened it up, and
[23:07] I accept it for
[23:11] that's that.
[23:16] Okay.
[23:18] It was a little discussion this morning.
[23:23] Cottonwood Canyon.
[23:25] It's been shut down for two weeks.
[23:27] weeks, what one week and one day. I'm not sure if they're going to start back up tomorrow
[23:33] or not, but I like what's going on. I heard there was some complaining, but I don't have
[23:44] any problems with it. They brought in some small rock. I made them take all that out of
[23:49] there, and then they brought in road bays for Dranger Barrow. Made them take that out of
[23:55] there. And we've got everything back where it should be now. All the tests are
[24:00] coming in good. And I really have no problems with the project. Other than getting it done.
[24:09] When it's done to get completed, they don't need it. You know, when do you have that?
[24:14] This one. You can tell you right there. Which is seven, you know?
[24:19] August 27 August and if they get on to it they can't complete it or there's not much left there no
[24:29] all we got to do is put down the road base that right that grout of rock is get a
[24:38] test because I would reject it 90% of it so far because they're not doing it like
[24:44] on it. So they got to remove a bunch of it and come back in straightened it up. That's
[24:51] a big killer to them. But we'll get it. The brother brought in a new form and it knows
[24:59] what he's doing now. And I like the way things are shaping up right now. So then we have
[25:07] a payment of $83,280, and that $83,283,280.33.
[25:25] There's a lot of traffic up there. The
[25:28] flaggers are handling it, handling it good.
[25:35] Once they said there was no flaggers there,
[25:37] so I grabbed everybody and held them and made me night everything on and on, but I think
[25:44] I think there are things going fine, just a matter of time to get to complete.
[25:54] How many traps can I use?
[25:56] Trucks?
[25:57] I don't know.
[25:58] I've had 12 lines up for one time.
[26:01] Do you think that this is going to be big enough when we get it?
[26:04] No.
[26:05] I wonder what I was wondering.
[26:08] I've already experienced.
[26:10] We're designed for 7 traps.
[26:13] I've already backed up 15.
[26:16] You might have to have it.
[26:28] We're going to find out, but when they shut that mine down, that long wall goes down, and
[26:35] they've got all these trucks coming in, and they just sit there.
[26:40] Can I say something?
[26:42] Yeah, go ahead.
[26:43] in those meetings we've had with
[28:11] us too much traffic on that road
[28:15] we
[28:29] forced it
[28:31] out to seven drive
[28:35] again but it's not well the day I was up there there was I
[28:42] think I counted five trucks and they went down past where our project is so
[28:48] which makes sense
[28:52] yeah yeah
[28:55] it eliminates the passing lane that we made
[29:02] Once you get them trucks stockpiled then you're backing up the main line. Are you counting two in the yard?
[29:11] No, I'm counting my own the road.
[29:14] I didn't think it had a whole set of three or four in the yard.
[29:19] Big one. I know I counted two, maybe three, but not four.
[29:25] They can't put four in the yard. I think on the four end they could actually have four inside the mine.
[29:31] Well,
[29:35] I wonder who's going to police this for us.
[29:38] I mean, that's very well.
[29:41] County.
[29:41] County.
[29:42] Just share our thoughts.
[29:45] What do you think, Justin, about policing the trucks?
[29:51] Do we have to do that?
[29:54] We know.
[29:55] That's me.
[29:55] Somebody has to stop in it.
[29:57] Yeah.
[29:58] Do another laying down further.
[30:11] There's not a lot of traffic up that cottonwood canyon, but it will improve some. Once we get the lanes in there, it'll improve. Right now we've got a one lane. That's all traffic when the flagings go down to one lane.
[30:30] The other right-hand lane is used for construction, so it will improve some wall, but there's a lot of traffic cut there.
[30:42] As long as the wall walls run in and go in, there's not a problem.
[30:48] But when that wall wall goes down, it don't take long to back up.
[30:57] I think it's good to put together and see where we're at.
[30:59] Yeah. Yeah, once it's done, you know, that's when that needs to take effect.
[31:16] And they'll back up traffic up down the canyon, too. Yeah.
[31:23] It's been that same bunch. So I think once we get it done, it will improve, but I guess it's
[31:30] the way to see what we've got. Well, that's not too far off in that completion date.
[31:37] We're going to be done by the first September. We should know on our next meeting where we're at.
[31:41] Yeah, we will.
[31:45] We'll have it done by the next reading.
[31:48] Any more questions about that?
[31:52] Anybody? No.
[31:53] On the financial side of that project, I know that there was talk about the mind paying half of it and us paying half of it.
[32:04] Who's working on that?
[32:09] Okay, so that part is done. So then the other side to that is, I've sent our request to pay our portion of the project with
[32:20] Inland Port County and we presented it, but we don't, they didn't really give us an answer. So we still don't know on that.
[32:31] So as soon as we get an answer on that, I will let you know, but it is not a
[32:36] for sure thing. So you play 50% of the project? Yeah, what we did on our request was, I
[32:43] believe it was up to $200,000 as the first request. So we thought that would give a
[32:50] little cushion if there were change orders or things for our half of it. It's been
[32:57] requested they've reviewed it but they have not told us yes or no all right
[33:21] we'll wait for an update on that any other discussion on on that you got
[33:29] you got this hey yes that was where the 83 came from wasn't it yeah the Trinity
[33:39] to email them to me. Okay. Okay. Change orders.
[33:46] Good.
[33:50] Bevin, give us an update on the history book.
[33:55] Okay, our history book is coming along that real good job.
[34:00] We're almost to the point now that we can start putting this on this step together in sequence
[34:07] as if it was ready to go to the printer so that we could get a better panel on what we've
[34:17] done and if we did a different chapter, different sections in there that needs additional information
[34:24] together then we would review that with the overall history book project still
[34:31] really well.
[34:35] Any questions on history book? No, we thank you for your efforts on
[34:40] that. Okay, make your release report. Yeah, it's all about that. And that will take us into
[34:50] to the money that I reported last time
[34:53] that the carbon county R&T District
[34:57] owes Amory County special service to the city.
[35:02] And I had a meeting with Linda Ballard
[35:06] and Greg Morsing on this.
[35:10] And they handled a bookkeeping and everything
[35:13] and might even be paying the bills for that district over there.
[35:17] and they were in the district and then they had what came out of our meeting was that
[35:28] they would pay back to that carbon district and the figure of about 312,000 approximately
[35:37] that they still hold on.
[35:40] As a result of this hardship grant, there was issue two, as
[35:51] a result of a lot of things.
[35:55] But this is the second time that we've been through one of these hardship grants.
[35:59] And so, but they'll get that information back to their industry.
[36:04] But it may not happen until in their September meeting.
[36:08] Their district meeting is the same day as ours.
[36:11] But they have there at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, we have ours in the morning and so it's just now.
[36:18] It's just a wait to see. So we may not hear about it all over.
[36:24] Yes, you should have some information about October as to how they plan on paying this.
[36:32] Now there's some things that have been that moment around and has to how they pay.
[36:40] Now, this district still owes $770,671.18.
[36:50] That's on the hardship, right?
[36:52] That's on the hardship, right?
[36:52] The distribution report too, Megan, that you give.
[36:55] And it's over there for the right hand column there.
[37:03] But that, and this money that they owe is their share
[37:08] of this $770,000, $760,000, $392.
[37:21] So that's carbon nitric share that amount of money.
[37:27] So I may pay that $300,000.
[37:33] To me the ideal would work something out
[37:36] where that money could actually go right back and be reduced from that 700,000 instead of just
[37:43] taking the money and putting it in a holding into your bank account or whatever.
[37:52] And I think there's ways to possibly doing that. And I attempted to get all the
[37:58] Greg morcing and explain because we've kind of run out of time on our meeting and we didn't get
[38:04] into how they would pay.
[38:07] But if we could do like times past on that 4076
[38:12] kind of line, my lease, we'd done a monthly transfer
[38:17] on their share of that portal revenue.
[38:21] There will be up with my MMS recourse.
[38:24] And that's been going on for several years on that.
[38:28] But if we could work out a shift,
[38:31] But an agreement with Carman R&T District, where we would take maybe 50% say of their monthly
[38:45] revenue and apply that to the 300,000 that they owe the district.
[38:52] And we could just do a transfer on that.
[38:56] And that could be done without ever having to get the money into the district and pay it back over here.
[39:04] And to me, that would be ideal if that district would go along with that.
[39:10] I agree.
[39:11] And like I said, it would then put their money back to paying the debtorness that they share of that debtorness.
[39:21] It would be a lot better way of getting that money paid as to, but that's still to be worked
[39:30] out.
[39:31] So we don't know that I would like to, if the board's okay with that, I'd like to move
[39:41] in that direction.
[39:42] Who do we owe that money to, or to whom do we owe that money, that $700,000?
[39:49] Well, they're taking it as a credit against their famous to us.
[39:55] That's over 700,000,000.
[39:57] Who is it?
[39:58] It's the old ring.
[39:59] It's the old ring.
[40:00] What they down, they give old ring and credit and charge it to every county, San P County,
[40:08] and severe county.
[40:09] That's the three counties with the coal production in the state of Utah.
[40:14] And it was coal-related.
[40:16] Okay, so they chose the portion of that.
[40:19] Now, severe counties was 1.17 million.
[40:23] Sandpeace was 1.17 million.
[40:28] And in Henry counties was 700,000 per se, so.
[40:33] And what they do, they be in state finance.
[40:42] They just take it out of future revenue.
[40:46] And, of course, every county without coal production now, their revenue, this is a
[40:56] jewellery port, but their revenue, monthly revenue was that it actually could come into
[41:04] county with $5,000 to $2,000 to $79.00. Well, the $5,000 a month is going to take a long time,
[41:11] and they said $900,000, so but there is a possibility that once a rock gets all these credits
[41:22] used up as we talked about before and the ranch staircase paid off, that their royalty
[41:29] payments would come back into and be distributed with like skyline mine up there as a royalty
[41:40] payment on the report, and that would start putting money revenue back into Emily County.
[41:49] And I can't seem to get any definite projections out of also wrong people.
[42:00] I've even thought a little bit about trying to set up a meeting with some of those people
[42:04] we can get some projections or get them to tell us where they're at on getting all
[42:11] that worked out. And the bottom line is, okay, it's also up. Why don't you start paying
[42:18] royally? And then putting some money back into every county.
[42:23] So we just, but that's still
[42:26] in the process of something, an option we might look at. People won't pursue, other than
[42:35] you sit and wait and wonder.
[42:39] So that's about Marley Port on the middle of the lease and
[42:49] and many that told me that every county, again, it's just kind of way to see how things
[42:56] come together and what we look at when she has.
[43:00] I got a question on that, but last time we okayed for you to talk to an attorney, where
[43:06] did that go?
[43:07] I talked to one attorney, Michael Janssen in Price, who is working my association with him
[43:16] as he created our family trust.
[43:20] And I mean, the process, since the loss of my wife
[43:22] is reviewing our trust.
[43:25] So I asked Michael if he could, if something came up,
[43:30] that we needed some legal help with collecting this money,
[43:34] if he would be available to handle that for us.
[43:38] And he come back and said that he had a conflict of interest
[43:42] because he had done some work for some of the owners there.
[43:46] of that spirit of which the county company.
[43:51] So his recommendation was go to Nick Sampenos, might be available, or brought to Hanson,
[44:02] and had an opportunity to visit with Brock, and he didn't say yes, he'd help us, and he
[44:12] didn't say no, he wouldn't.
[44:14] He's a very busy man, but what he did say, he becomes to pretty unique some legal help and he wants to see if I can help you.
[44:23] He says, put together a spreadsheet so I know what I'm dealing with, pack it probably, that we would have to educate him on what's going on.
[44:36] But I think, for an attorney, I think what I get out of the broth is that he would probably
[44:45] be willing to help us out on this if he would leave those campsite leaders.
[44:51] But things are coming to get us there too.
[44:53] But instead, or in addition, you met with the great director Marcin.
[45:00] Whoever else. And hopefully it's going to move forward without. We hope we can work it out. We won't even need any legal help. Okay. But yeah, that would be the best. The problem is you get fighting over two, three hundred thousand. You can burn that out of the no time. And attorney. Yeah. Yeah. And and if it didn't, if it didn't want to happen to go to court, it would be for this amount of us that they owed plus all legal and attorney fees that we would go in.
[45:29] if we want. Request the payment on if we want. So we would make them pay our attorney fees.
[45:36] But to both parties the advantage to work this out. That's the course I think that we're
[45:44] taking at present time. Yes. Just a way of trying to work through it. It need be. I thought
[45:53] myself about going to Carman County commissioners. I can see which Carman County
[46:00] commissioners is over that works with that district. If we need to put a
[46:06] pressure on that board to help them come around and make a decision to get
[46:12] this paid peacefully and move on there's a possibility and I may reach out to
[46:22] perhaps Mr. Jensen and say, hey, can you help us with the situation? But I hate to,
[46:30] I hate to go any farther than I have to if it's not needed so. I like the board to know
[46:38] where I'm at, where I'm going, so if you have any questions or concerns, you know, you
[46:44] You can share it with me and rein me in or I'll get the food back to me or what did
[46:51] I ever be in and manage to have a meeting with their board like our two districts meet
[46:56] on this or would that not be good I might muddy the water right now.
[47:03] I don't think so.
[47:04] You don't think so.
[47:04] I'm just asking.
[47:06] I don't think it would be necessary.
[47:07] Okay. Unless, unless, unless all other avenues there.
[47:19] It might be, and I've even thought
[47:23] about perhaps myself going to one of their meetings. It may be, so I think I can talk to all
[47:32] their board, they're going to see the makers, and it may be, but I don't know. I hope
[47:38] they don't go that. But if the time comes, that's an option we can look at. I just, I like
[47:47] it better when you sit next to the people and talk to them, you know, and then that's why
[47:52] I think that about me going to one of their board meetings. If necessary, but if I go, I want
[47:58] to come in here with me.
[48:00] That's good.
[48:01] Yeah, for sure.
[48:02] And I see it.
[48:04] We can't persuade him to just come on, guys, girls.
[48:09] You know what, pay it.
[48:11] And we won't know the answer to that question until October,
[48:15] because of that meeting.
[48:16] Yeah.
[48:17] And there, right there, except here we're meeting, we should have.
[48:22] And hopefully I can lend a bowler, she's over in Florida, and I hope some of her family
[48:32] moved into an old home, and Greg Washington had to be gone some more for this meeting.
[48:41] And so we didn't know what we needed to get, just to report to the chairman of the Errol
[48:49] So it's just, again, we've seen it.
[48:52] That's the possibility it only comes with that.
[48:56] Well, I think we'll do whatever we have to to try
[48:58] to get this figured out.
[49:00] Let's find both of the little deductum
[49:02] and out of the royal repayments over a period of time.
[49:05] And then just take it directly into the,
[49:08] against the 300,000.
[49:10] Against, we take the 300,000, like a check of time.
[49:16] Over a period of time.
[49:18] Yeah.
[49:22] And get this, uh,
[49:26] people that makes this, uh, this
[49:28] spreadsheet and does the pay and get them to just make that
[49:32] transfer. Right, right. Right from the print to their, their
[49:36] requirements revenue, uh, or to the, to this, uh, this credit
[49:44] That's a credit on that.
[49:45] 700 out of $0.00.
[49:46] Get rid of that credit.
[49:47] Then eventually what?
[49:49] It would get down there.
[49:51] The money that they owed because of this hardship grant
[49:56] would go by, instead of the money coming in the district
[49:59] and perhaps you eventually just have to make a distribution
[50:04] or it.
[50:05] And then it would just have many more years
[50:10] And I'm trying to get it paid off with every county district revenue.
[50:16] Do we have any idea what money would come in once they're done with that hardship grant?
[50:21] We'll come into us on that.
[50:23] That's why he's trying to get the meeting with mine.
[50:27] But he's dealt with those enough, like off those mines.
[50:30] What ballpark, what is a mine-producing taxes?
[50:33] Okay.
[50:36] The money that would come in, I think our reported last month, the skyline mine had started
[50:45] up a minor section, and they've got a little crew working up to the Utah County employees
[50:53] working in that mine.
[50:55] Now the revenue on the for for for for the June report
[51:05] and carbon share of that and this represents 40% is $342.
[51:14] So there's not much money there that we can be coming in.
[51:18] Almost like to take 100 years.
[51:21] Almost nothing.
[51:22] So that's if the hardship grant goes away, that's what they're going to pay in.
[51:27] Under the current mining operation as it is today.
[51:31] That's the skyline.
[51:33] All right, well, Foss Rocks, they got a long wall going and all that.
[51:36] He's just talking a minor section.
[51:39] Now Foss Rock, I should know this, are all of what mining lease sections in Henry County,
[51:46] under the Foss Rock, are they in the south gate?
[51:54] So the longwall and everything that we're all in here can't handle that, we're not
[51:58] splitting that.
[52:01] Now there is a possibility of all the lighting down our emery, if they move out into some
[52:09] better releases there and then again that I think those better releases are pretty close
[52:15] to severe county. And again, it's just a way to see. That's what local mining is
[52:22] operating on now is private ground. So what they're mining now is no revenue.
[52:28] And the every mine is never paid any mineral lease mines. So what they've been
[52:34] mine is on the private ground and then some of the, the, the, the, the
[52:42] possible rock of the forest. We have hopes that they'll get all
[52:45] these other stuff paid and out of the way and that they don't
[52:49] bother any more of our ship grants and then, and we hope to get
[52:55] a revenue stream coming back in because we can't, we can't find
[53:03] now and hear any word that they will ever go by program in the sand and start producing
[53:10] what they wasn't on time.
[53:12] They're pretty there.
[53:14] We just got into that minor section.
[53:17] But they are that minor section is apparently on this 4076 leases, the split leases between
[53:25] Kerbin and McKinley.
[53:26] It's where they're mining.
[53:44] Now
[53:45] You have a question wait
[53:58] Have it that's all out of us anyways, isn't it? No, that's that that's that 28 28 split
[54:10] Okay, they're
[54:17] still real like crazy on I
[54:22] think that's the direction. They're looking at in the future
[54:25] The scenes are wide enough
[54:30] But that's still gonna be I think most
[54:42] Yeah, there is a whole line up. Well cat
[54:47] They might be where they're in the north of Henry years ago.
[54:55] They got a T.S.J. drove my train.
[55:00] They could run about the mines and figure out somewhere else.
[55:05] I think that I heard rumor that they're reserves in severe where they're at now
[55:12] is the only got two to three years left.
[55:16] That's what I'm hearing through the grave line.
[55:18] But yeah, they're way from there.
[55:23] It's a long way to the face of where they're mungering coal now.
[55:27] Yeah, so who knows, yeah, it's no other drill.
[55:35] Any other questions?
[55:38] Well, let's pay the bills then.
[55:39] and I'll
[55:43] make a motion to pay in the bills.
[55:46] Well, I have a question on item seven
[55:49] because it was specifically to work on negotiating
[55:54] a payment plan with Carbon County.
[55:56] So is your plan right now?
[55:57] So did we kind of combine six and seven
[55:59] and your plan right now is see if we can get them
[56:05] to just chip away at the money owed to us.
[56:12] That's what we're at, yes, for authorizing them and to keep them in this trial.
[56:19] And hopefully by October we'll have some ideas.
[56:22] We'll have more information.
[56:26] Okay,
[56:30] so it feels to pay, just the usual, I would say.
[56:34] Okay, we do have balance in the tunnel, so engineering on Lawrence East, Crackfield,
[56:42] 2026, actually that one's, oh yeah, this will be the final on that, and then Cottonwood
[56:47] Canyon road widening, so $38,350 there, we have food rent just for their refreshments for
[56:55] of the meeting Rocky Mountain Power is $98.55.
[57:02] The light bill, right?
[57:04] Yep.
[57:05] And then the cotton wood, this is the pay estimate number one.
[57:11] Yeah.
[57:12] So that's the 83,280 and 33 cents.
[57:16] And then we'll have just a $30 bill from the county.
[57:21] Well, it's been moved to pay the bills, I hear a second, all in favor.
[57:27] Aye.
[57:28] Aye.
[57:30] Motion carries.
[57:34] Board of the distribution, and there is no answer.
[57:41] So we might as well skip over that.
[57:44] Unless you want a motion to pay the, you think we had a move to pay the zero?
[57:49] We did.
[57:49] I think so.
[57:50] We did last.
[57:53] Board.
[57:53] Board member reports and any other business that may be come before the board.
[57:59] I just real quick wanted to give a shout out to Justin and Williamson Cullo on that more
[58:07] cut off road.
[58:08] I have a lot of people telling me how much nicer that is since we chipped silver, per since
[58:15] the county chipped, we chipped silver and did the crack selling, it's just a hundred percent
[58:21] bad.
[58:22] Yeah, yeah, I mean down it take a drive
[58:26] Time you got something right
[58:32] Okay,
[58:39] that that brings us to the adjournment next meeting's
[58:45] September 14 14
[58:51] Anybody want to get a adjourned motion?
[58:57] We usually do you don't have to have a motion you don't have to
[59:01] This meeting is adjourned then, did they forget their expense sheets?
[59:07] I'm signed, that's one.