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Here, Larry, you're on there to see you. Just by way of introduction, I'm Lauren Huntsman,

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I'm a fund manager of the Hunter Huntington Plans, you know Patsy?

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Hi, I'm Patsy's daughter and I work with Emily Penny, Mrs. Chamber.

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Okay, great.

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Larry Commissioner Leonard?

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Yes.

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Commissioner Warwood?

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Warwood.

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And I'm Natalie Olson.

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I'm Commissioner Leonard Secretary.

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Okay.

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So Nicole's not here. She's the chairman that we'll move forward on that. So I welcome

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to everybody. We had the board meeting minutes from May 12. I read them.

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I don't know if

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All of these motions go through the minutes from May to 12.

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I hear a second.

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That would be me or you, Larry.

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I'll second.

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OK.

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All right.

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All in favor of approving the minute, say aye.

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I hear all positive.

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So we're on number three.

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Discuss approved and aye using the rural community grant

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funds to pay for a consultant or employee. So I assume this is based on the email that

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we got that said we can't use it for that. And so I guess the discussion is I'm glad

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we got some direction because you know we were all assuming and working on from past experience

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So now Deborah's not on it would be nice to ask her. She said that they highly

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discourage it, but we could potentially ask or if the commission felt if we could sell it

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to the point where we felt like it was a huge need for our community, I think we could present it that way.

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Yeah. I'm thinking back. It seems like there was a lot more scrutiny or, you know,

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paperwork and that are your needing to justify it and to document.

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Is that federal funding for state funding?

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State funding, yeah. So the $200,000 that the state gives us for economic development

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I think their concern is making sure if we're hiring and doing things that it's moving

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the needle in the right direction instead of just paying for other county services.

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So if it's sold in a way for economic development, I could see it fitting but they've talked to

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Yeah, they do discourage it to this position different than an economic development director

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He could be we're talking about just a consultant that was going to help us like with Rocky Mountain power and that's it

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This would be that one so it's different and then an economic

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Correct

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Brenda has continued to budget for an economic development

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So I think that my, I think that position might be there for it would be just out this open for a lobbyist or whatever you want to talk about.

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So this wouldn't, would this be, remember you used paper Andrew Fry at the research center to bring in,

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And at that time, the county owned it to bring in business, would it include somebody

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like that as well?

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I know we used this money in the past for that.

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I read it as that it really shouldn't go towards paying anyone.

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Just things.

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Was that just her email?

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A couple weeks ago?

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Yeah, her email.

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But they approved it in the past.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, for a year, ignorance has blessed some kind of a gift, huh?

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Yeah, it doesn't matter.

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And yeah, I think maybe it's a new stipulation.

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Okay.

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I don't even know if it's a stipulation.

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I think she was just saying she taught her a bottom.

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Please don't, but you can if you need to.

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Right.

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But they're going to be additional.

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Debra.

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Debra.

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I'll look up there now.

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So my understanding is carbon candy is going to go ahead.

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It would be worth $30,000 and that only is $2,000.

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So they're using one of their real housing?

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I'm not sure whether or not they are doing that because they put their total $200,000 into their grant programs.

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I bet there may be funds from somewhere.

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I don't know for sure.

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I should have asked.

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It was Larry and the new one.

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they haven't decided yet. I talked to both of them. They just think it's a good idea.

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Patsy's ride, they've used all their money this year but not next year rides so

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they could have a reallocation extra life. But they dump it all into that program.

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They're pretty going to hold about it. They feel like John's the one who got them

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the temple through. So they're pretty excited about him. So I think they're coming up with

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it somewhere else. But they just got this agreement.

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So with this though, I mean, do the

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commissioners feel that there's enough justification. Do you want to go through the work, the effort to use the money for that or the way I read it is and probably shouldn't.

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If you really feel strongly about it and it opened the door a little bit, but the way I read it and probably shouldn't.

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Do we have other funds that are anywhere else that we can use to that?

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don't always try to find something to do.

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In my mind, it's probably the best use of these funds.

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We have mine in the bank.

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If the state doesn't totally say no, I think it's worth pushing one more time.

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Would it be worth talking to Deborah when I talked to her about it and it was before the

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the new rules came out, but yeah, I'll visit with her.

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We want to be in the board and get them up.

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Yeah.

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You didn't want it to be.

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So I thought we could put it up into the showroom.

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But if they say no, then we're going to have to look at different directions.

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I think the money would be well-spanned, but whether we're in operation.

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So we'll push this off to the next, do we need to, may I use, do we need to tell something

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before November?

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So I think I just wanted to put this on like by way of information and then for, we needed

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to talk about the allocation for a 2027.

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Okay.

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But I mean, what it means for, though,

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passing that we recommend using it if allowed.

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Sure.

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And then kind of similar to what we did with,

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yeah.

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So the board's recommendation is that we go ahead with this to contract with this person?

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Oh well it's permissible.

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The thing that drives me crazy about this is that we have submitted this the last five years

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saying we're holding this money to hire somebody to do this and they have never objected to it.

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And that has been in our plan every single year, so we have said, hey, we're holding back

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money to do this, and they've approved our plan every year.

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So they're not going to reject this, because they would have rejected the last four years

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of plan.

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I mean, that's been in there a lot of something's changed.

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Well, nothing's changed.

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She just said that it was her boss said that they don't love it, now they might have the

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actual email.

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But that's been our plan, and they've approved it.

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So why did they approve last year when we said we were going to use the money that

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way?

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And we approved the year before when we said, we know we've been holding that money, right?

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Yeah, we actually had it more than 30,000, so that's the idea.

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So in my view, they've already approved this plan.

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They approved the 2026 plan, or it is to use as money to do that, sure, only more so, yeah.

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Now, what do we have left right now?

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Prior years and from the short-lived 80,000.

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We only have, I believe, 75.

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And then we're going to work on the plan for 2027 so we can pop some more money into that.

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You're pulling up the letter, so what we're talking about is actually number four, so the second we'll be down to the allocation.

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Yeah, I think the board recommendation to the commission to see if it's possible.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, board direct, there's the direction from the board on that.

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What do you think?

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I just gave Natalie 10 bucks.

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Nobody carries any cash.

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County need us to join on to make this thing happen or if we don't then they pay

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the full amount right so his contract I read the proposal it says it's this

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much but I'll feel each county so they would be paying double and he would be

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doing they would at which they do have some work like like he said when he came

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down and presented they have extra gas and specifically IRP says they need two to three

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new gas plants and then they also have a and then they also have a couple of data centers

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that want to use that.

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So I think out of this they're going to get a gas plant that's what I think would be their

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goal is they want to land a gas plant.

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Now, what is every county goal?

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That's something that the commissioners really need to answer, like what's there to go like.

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Do we want to try to steal that gas plant, but I'm not sure there's enough power enough gas line propellant.

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You'd have to bring it down.

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And you'd have to bring it down here somewhere.

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Yeah, you'd have to bring it to the Carving County.

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To some water, or you'd have to have some water for it.

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Right, or is it that we are trying to transition the coal to nuclear or not in the plan right now?

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Right, yeah, or a coal the natural gas. Right now the plan is not to shut down the coal.

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Right, so but do we lobby to keep that up and his point was I think when he was talking on that

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call that we were on was one, somewhere there was going to be a gas plant. According to

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IRP, there's enough extra gas at carbon county for one. And then there's got to be some

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transition with these coal. And if somebody is willing to put an upgraded transmission

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then it makes their county more appetizing for these power companies. But you'd have to put in the contract,

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I mean if you go down and try to get solar then you're going to have a lynching party. So that would

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have to be part of the population that you push and other things, right? But I think you will help.

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Oh, yeah, I definitely do.

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Yeah, do you have the letter?

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Yeah, do you want me to read it to you?

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Please find the attached memo regarding

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administrative rules, rules changes to the rural

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county grant program.

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These changes address using grant funds to pay

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county employees and third-party consultants.

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Local county grant is project based with funds intended for use on economic development projects and activities. Paying a consultant or an employee is not recognized as a project or an activity. As a result, the county will be required to justify using rural, rural county grant funds by detailing the projects and activities. Consultants or employees will perform for the payment they receive. Consultants and employees will be required

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to be accountable for the projects and activities they engage in for the funding they receive.

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These issues will be addressed in the annual application and the annual report.

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The memo also emphasizes the obligation for yearly training and adherence by county

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CEO boards to the Open and Public Meetings Act, which we probably need to do that every

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year.

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So you've got to have a project.

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Yeah, so if we had a combined cycle plant that we're trying to get going, that would

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be a project and we could do that.

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Well, I don't know.

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I mean, what's the definition of project?

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If I'm saying, if I'm currently counting, I'm going to say, my project is to try to land

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a natural gas plant and to do that, we're going to pay somebody to help us get that

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here. And maybe we're also going to improve a road or we're going to do whatever it is but that's

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the project. So I think that's probably how we got through with Andrew Fry. Our project was the

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research center, right? It was the research center with the project and we had Andrew helping us get

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people to use the combustion units there, like that in that group that we had out of

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Great Britain, sending all that stuff over to test. So it wasn't that we were, we'd

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almost have to come up with the project and then have the consultant be part of that project.

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which is not undoable, it's just we have to say this is the project.

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I think it's easier for carbon

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county because they have they've got the project they know they want to bring a gas plant in there

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and may we do too but ours is a little harder project because there's a lot of gas

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on here. We all have that one.

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So as far as this is concerned it seems like we

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would need to identify a

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project and we would struggle just using it to say, yeah, we're going to bring in

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it for economic development. So I guess we could ask is economic development, you know,

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just general economic development of our project. But I think it's different, though. I think

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his proposal is economic development to land more energy related. Yeah. So it's an

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national project, in my view, maybe we have to put some parameters on that, but because

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this doesn't say you don't do it, it says if the county used rural county grants for

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third-party consultants, actually, if they give you an if, you can, this is what you got

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to do.

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There's more paper.

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There's more paper.

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Yeah, that's not a thing.

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And it hasn't been available with projects.

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More imagination.

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Well, maybe we ought to find out.

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Maybe we ask John Cox in those bounds

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how would you, what would be the project?

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What are you trying to land here?

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So, and again on this number three,

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this was to be discussed just philosophically, right?

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And number four, we're gonna start talking about

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how are we gonna allocate?

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So, but you gotta have it philosophically else,

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we don't own the money back in the floor.

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Sure, sure.

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So we're going to help you guys, this is the real question, it's more of a commission.

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We want to do whatever helps you.

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So if it helps us to say, yeah, we're really strong on this, if you got the money somewhere

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else, or if you aren't going to use John Cox and we're going to bark it up a tree, then

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so it's more of what do you guys need from us?

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Like, does it give you more cover to say this is recommended by the CEO board and it would

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help us get us not coming out of general funds or do you know I want to do it at all or the

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other way to look at is if the county does have a digital fund like this would this would

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add $30,000 to say okay he's identified the project how do we get that

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true if there's something

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else you guys were looking at then we can use him and sell the project like we did

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or is there something that's in your fund that qualifies better that you guys are paying

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out of the general fund, that if we pay out of the, if we recommend a paying here, you

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can do your general funds for a contract with John Todd.

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I'm not even familiar with the money enough to know what you guys need for life.

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Well, the county's benefits, you know, several times, I mean, the Randy Johnson was a consultant

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that then several consultants that have been just paid with general funds.

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They didn't search for the money, you know.

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A lot of lobbyists, right?

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Yeah, a lot of lobbyists.

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I command you get it.

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It feels like we've had a few of those over the years.

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True.

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Our Louisiana guy, you see it?

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Yeah, it's a late fly.

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right. Do we play for some of Stuart's? I don't know. I don't know if we paid for it or not.

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I don't remember. There was another Stuart. Cody Stuart.

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Is there anything in Green River Larry that could benefit from this kind of push?

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And we've got some interesting projects going on, but I don't know if this would help with that.

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I'm meeting on the 20th with that space program.

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They're looking at land and greenery to build a lot of sites for their rockets.

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We'll see how that goes.

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I don't know how much land they need actually.

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We'll find out when they get here on 30th.

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What about, what about hold tech and high tech?

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Hold tech and high tech?

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The nuclear plant out there.

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I mean, because this would fall under that.

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That's what we have worked on.

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But we haven't heard from them for quite some time.

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Didn't look concerned.

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But as far as I know, it's still in the works.

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These things take a lot less water than the original plant used to do.

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so I think it's doable. It's just a matter of finding the property where we've got money to build a

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road out there to our west industrial part and so I mean at least for the engineering and then

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we'll have to take it from there so you can get the money to actually build the roads but that's

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going to have to happen before anything else. Is that no access? Is that out of the city or is it

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County.

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It's still in the city property.

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So as far as this number three items I

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think we acknowledge that it has to probably go to a project and that if we

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want to get a consultant it would be best to identify the project that they're

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going to, if there's ever an incident, John talked, but we want to go to, then there's,

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it can be done, but it's a lot more onerous, as far as, just fine.

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But I think there's, okay, so I was up there when Holteck and Hyteck announced that they

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were taking over the blue chapter project, John was right there and he said, you're going

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here some things on Green River and the Blue Castle project.

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So if we know that's a project we want to try to land the Holtek high-tech for Green

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River or do some of the blue castle, we want them to keep your plan open.

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I mean that's a project and we hire them to do that.

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Keep the plan open or get something in it's place and help us get the high-tech Holtek

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and that's a project.

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I think, I think mayor with Edward leaving there in a tough spot with economic development

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anyway.

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I think this would help help help keep some of those conversations going.

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Is there any that we've got better city working in this country?

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Oh, better city.

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That's right.

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Okay, Ryan England is really good. He's in town, so he needs familiar with all this stuff, so we'll keep that going.

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Is there anything with the Lithium that needs help?

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No, the Lithium looks like it's going. We expect to have those people here in the next month.

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250 people from Korea come into Greenland.

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Well, you know, living in Las Vegas, they're going to work during the weekend, dreamers.

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They can live in Vegas.

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They can live in Vegas.

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They can use motels.

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They can use motels.

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They can use motels.

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They can use motels.

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They can use motels.

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They can use motels.

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Five.

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How long that's going to happen?

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How long will it happen?

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Like, they're not going to hire normal workers.

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And just getting boarded by just three of them?

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Oh, no.

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They'll hire other workers as well.

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But this company, the investment company is a South Korean company.

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and they have an answer to our meeting in our own deal, but then there will be hires from a little bit in the city.

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Would we go around the areas?

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Would we all speak Korean?

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That would be something that speaks Korean.

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Well, I would recommend that perhaps there's an additional discussion with you guys in Deborah to define what project is.

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I think if we can tie in the green river as well as the power plants, I think it would

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be hard for us to make a bridge right now.

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Well, I make the motion that we work with Deborah to see if hiring a consultant to help push

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the whole tech high tech project and to help either keep the plant or replace the plant as the

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main project that we in this day if never let us that we propose paying for John

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Cox is it if the commissioners by off on what he says he's got a contract with

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us he can't say stuff you guys don't want him to push right but I'll make that

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motion that we here so are we on number four now then the allocation or we

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still. Well, we still get to use the old one. This is chair of the 26. Okay. So, so I

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get there's a motion. You got the motion. Do I hear it make that sense? I don't

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know what I said, Natalie. I sure can. That was really good, bro. I don't like to

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part about replace the power plant in the motion. I rather just have it say in

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addition to the power plant, add more things to what we've already got.

332
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What I mean is like if they do end of life, the power plant we want to have a plant there.

333
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Okay.

334
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Is that better?

335
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I identify end of life.

336
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Because we don't know the end of life, for sure.

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For projects.

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For projects.

339
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Yeah.

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Extend.

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All right.

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So we reword that to extend the life of the coal plants and if or when they are end of

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life work on landing a replacement plant because you're right I mean and honey

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is going to be 400 so even if honey didn't went down we would want to replace

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them there yeah whether it's gas or nuclear right whatever it is yeah so we

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had a motion in a second any other discussion Larry anything else you

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Okay, is there some more energy projects over there besides the we can call it the whole tech high tech blue castle?

348
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Is there any others that would fall under energy that we could put in with that project?

349
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No, there isn't right now.

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All right, it's been motioned, hollum favor, it's been motioned that Natalie has the wording on. All in favor say aye.

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any opposed? No opposition. Number four. Before we move on can I ask last meeting we

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approved $5,000 to go to Green River for their business alliance. Did that

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come out of the rural county grant funds? It came out of the fund. So we had to

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to ratify that? Well, no, because we did that last meeting. Okay. So we have 45,075.

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Okay. Because this is only 30. Right. Okay. So we're good. And now that how that was just

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so you know, it was actually, we gave five extra to Patsy. And Patsy was going to administer

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that right so we didn't even give it to the greener or fun we give it to

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that's the additional 5 to run through the chamber.

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And you are going to work with the Green River Alliance on it, right? Yes, they almost. So, but it went through pass on that motion. Okay. Good. All right. Anything else, Nana? No. Number four, approved deny allocation of fiscal year 2027, roll grant, account grant, program fund.

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So we're trying to identify projects, is that what we're trying to do?

361
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Yeah, how you want.

362
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So in order for me to fill out the application, they have to know what you guys want to spend on you.

363
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If we have the youth, so we need to write it out down.

364
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So what do we do last year?

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We get the youth.

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And the business street, the main street.

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The main street.

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What do you call it?

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Business improvement.

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business improvement program and then we get this green river I think we

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ought to do that again probably so yeah so the junior what else do we fund let's

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assume 30 on this contract yeah but that comes from our 2025 that we have

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2026 too. Yeah, but yeah. In 2027 we're saying we would use an additional 30,000 because it's 30,000 a year right now.

374
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Oh, I got you. Okay. So, 30,000 a year. And then I think those are all our projects, right?

375
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Maybe we only need to do 15 this year. We've got 45 and we take away 30 and that we're still over budgeting that

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If we're just doing $30,000 a year.

377
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Yeah, but it pays for the whole year.

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So if we, if you sign with John Cosh right now,

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it's 30 to next July, and then 30 to next July,

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30 to next July, right?

381
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Yeah, because we've got $45,000 and that

382
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and getting through to next July.

383
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Are we authorizing to you the whole year by 30,000 next July,

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which is what we're talking about right now, right?

385
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This is 20,000.

386
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Let's do this.

387
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No, but I know what you're saying, Petsy.

388
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No, what I'm saying on this, though, is let's not do that.

389
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If we got an extra 15, we got an extra 15,

390
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we'll all make the motion to put that into your program.

391
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If we got 15 that we didn't use last year,

392
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let's put it into your program now.

393
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So that 45 used 30 for that contract,

394
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but the extra let's put it into your program.

395
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Okay, and then we're going back up to number 3.

396
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Right, so do you want to do you want a motion on that Lauren? Well, no, no, this is this is this number for us

397
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Still, but we're talking about using last year's money up and three. So Patsy's just said we only get 30 there were there 45

398
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Do you want a motion on that 15?

399
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So

400
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We need motion to use that 15

401
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Yes, we probably do yeah, so I'll put that motion up that

402
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We recommend the board use the 30, but then the remaining 15, we put it in the business

403
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improvement grant of the remaining 2025 19.

404
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I'll make that motion.

405
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To be used in 26.

406
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Well, or whenever pass you want to use it, do you get applications that could use it now?

407
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I have a couple that were funded with this cycle, and I could reach out to them again.

408
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because they were, we just had a couple of them over the United, but probably what I would

409
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rather do is just wait and add it to everything for January to start pressing January.

410
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But then that would clean up that year. So I recommend in addition to the 30 for the

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10th of June contract that we use the other, the remaining amount, whatever that ends up being

412
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Natalie, that we put that into the business development program.

413
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Okay.

414
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I have a motion to use additional $15,000 business improvement for you.

415
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I can.

416
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I'll print it.

417
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Any other discussion?

418
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All in favor?

419
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Say aye.

420
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Aye.

421
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Aye.

422
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Any opposed?

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It passes.

424
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So now we're just dealing with our budget.

425
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Now we're dealing with $200,000.

426
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Now we're dealing with $200,000.

427
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And then I have another question.

428
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So if it's okay with Deborah, and now we want to do the extra work, then we can hire

429
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And that's what this, yeah, there's 30,000 people for it, yeah.

430
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So, do we need to get on the agenda?

431
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How do you present it to them?

432
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It's got to go to the big minister on campus.

433
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I think it would have to make sure that we need context.

434
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The average is not going to go to vertical with it.

435
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And then put it on the agenda, yeah.

436
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And I don't know where Commissioner Jensen is going to be on that.

437
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There's a proposed contract, Fatsy, so that have to be looked at by the attorney, too,

438
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by Mike.

439
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So there's some steps there.

440
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Just John has a contract, like a standard contract.

441
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They've sent it to the commission.

442
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And the commission might push back and say, we don't want you to talk about solar, we don't

443
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want this or that.

444
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You guys, you can negotiate with them.

445
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So whatever will make Commissioner Jensen, maybe come around on it too, you know, we've got

446
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to ask him what he wants in there.

447
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So you guys, it's a negotiation, but what you want in it, I think green river projects.

448
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When we say it for the, and I think we need to mention some of that, so that it qualifies

449
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for Debra's thing like Natalie saying, right?

450
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If the contract actually outlines all those projects in it,

451
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then that might help with Debra's requirements.

452
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So I think that's good.

453
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Mike, we need to add that.

454
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If you need some help, I can help them that

455
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contract.

456
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All right, so back to the budget.

457
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Now we're back to the budget.

458
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If we've identified the project for the allocation

459
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or the categories, but we haven't identified the amount.

460
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So in the past for the business improvement we've done was at 115 and then we put in

461
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another 75 another 100 actually so it was 215 for 2026 right because we used

462
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money. We're talking to you 100,000 what we're trying to do on the board out

463
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,340
live and just that we have 155. Is that always been on? Do we have any other

464
00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:08,640
projects? For the grant? No, just anything else we've got. So that would leave

465
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:17,740
155 for the business development for the contract with the chamber. So if we do

466
00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:23,480
How much? How much for the entrepreneur? 10,000. 10,000. And then the green river

467
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:30,760
alliance would be 5,000. 15. And then John Cox is 30,000. 155. So that would

468
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,760
leave 155 for the business improvement grants. I got one question on that. You

469
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,120
know how junior entrepreneurs, the greener was, do we need some more money in

470
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,420
there so you can do some stuff for junior entrepreneurs? You know where you

471
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:54,920
Okay, money was there who we need more junior entrepreneur money the 10,000 that was given I've been using them for the green of the kids

472
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,320
Oh, okay, so you don't need more money there?

473
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:06,400
Well, we could always use more money, but would you rather have it there in the business main street project, the

474
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,660
improvement grant?

475
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Well, okay, what do you, they didn't use a whole lot of it and we did a business bear down there for the kids

476
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,700
and she was able to get some sponsorship from local businesses and so that kind

477
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:25,920
of pretty much paid for the business fair and so that was kind of broke even on

478
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,740
that so we just paid for the food and different things like that so and then they

479
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:36,700
spot down just so we helped with that so they're doing okay do we need to hold

480
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:41,480
any more money out except there to should we just put the rest of the 155 in the

481
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:48,020
I was going to ask these guys, is there a project out there that you guys are aware of?

482
00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:57,020
I think it's always nice to save a little bit, but 15,000 or 20,000 and less.

483
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:03,320
I think we should hold some out, because we don't know what pops up, what if Mr. Cox finds

484
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,340
something for us that we have to fill in more money into it or something like that?

485
00:39:09,020 --> 00:39:14,620
That's a good point. We can hold it for that project. Do we need to help with the road?

486
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,880
I mean, the road out to the whole tech site. I take site for the greener.

487
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Larry, you got funding for that road out there?

488
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:27,140
Yes, we do.

489
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,480
I don't have any information I'm trying to make, but it's been done.

490
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:40,060
That's going to be what it is right across in the blue.

491
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,580
But that was just engineering, right Larry?

492
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,100
That was just the engineering grant.

493
00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:52,200
So is there anything else that the county grant,

494
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:57,020
parts of the fairgrounds down there that, I mean,

495
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,840
it's been utilized, we've got firefighters there,

496
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:08,300
it's been utilized perhaps in a little different way, it's normally used, is there something that

497
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:14,040
could be done down there to help the community to?

498
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,300
Well, they don't have showers, and they probably have brought you a shallow trailer, yes, they did, didn't they?

499
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:26,320
You know, they may have brought in a trailer that we had abuse in the swimming pool.

500
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:27,440
There's a project.

501
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,100
Don't come to the other side.

502
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Don't come down to the other side.

503
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,720
Get on the other side.

504
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,520
The water is, what do you think?

505
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:43,440
I think we can put pretty good on the fair, maybe save a little invention decay.

506
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:53,060
But I don't know any other projects really that were, I mean, there's always the economic

507
00:40:53,060 --> 00:41:00,820
development director piece, but $15,000 is only going to be good on your website and

508
00:41:00,820 --> 00:41:03,400
need to revamp the website. You need anything like that?

509
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,060
There's good. I mean, I've been working on it.

510
00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:08,980
Where are we with the plan?

511
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,680
He said the plan is there.

512
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:13,360
The blue print?

513
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,260
Not the blue print.

514
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:15,580
It says need to be.

515
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,220
We could look it up there.

516
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,800
So follow it up with.

517
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,260
We could identify projects in the blue print plan that we already

518
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,840
haven't identified.

519
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,700
We haven't discussed.

520
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:37,240
So should we prove 125,000 for the B.I.G. and that'll hold what, 30, 30, and then we

521
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,940
look for other projects from the last 30.

522
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,560
Does that mess you up on your submission on that?

523
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:52,880
So we could, we could 30,000 for implementing every kind of blueprint, or just, it's just,

524
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,240
they're telling us about that.

525
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,560
It's like unencumbered.

526
00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:55,920
Yeah.

527
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,660
Yeah, number 4.

528
00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:11,560
That's your guess to Henry Himmings, is that going to cost more than $30,000?

529
00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:17,250
Yeah, a little more than $30,000.

530
00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:17,810
And then...

531
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:18,670
It's even more than that.

532
00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:20,910
It's as far as we're going to work.

533
00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:23,250
It's in the more?

534
00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:24,110
Yeah.

535
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:30,650
There's a line about to where the other trailers for the solar project.

536
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:33,610
And then Lawrence would be the other one.

537
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:41,470
You've got a couple of businesses in memory that probably would have a better bottom line

538
00:42:41,470 --> 00:42:43,710
if they had gaps, no, there's a problem.

539
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:45,690
Okay, here's the thing on that.

540
00:42:49,210 --> 00:42:58,450
So we just need to look into this, but so this was a problem and so we ran a bill, I was

541
00:42:58,450 --> 00:43:03,170
involved in these discussions and maybe Lauren can remember this, but there's some ways

542
00:43:03,170 --> 00:43:07,630
These four quests are to get reimbursed for going into a new community like this.

543
00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:11,910
There was a completely separate bill that was passed by Senator Inkins, and we ran it

544
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:13,510
with those two communities in mind.

545
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:15,290
Nothing happened.

546
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:18,850
Well, but so there's money that can get out of the Public Service Commission.

547
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:20,090
I can't remember how it works.

548
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:23,990
I can't remember if they have to, I can't remember.

549
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:26,410
Kind of like your fiber to the Navajo Nation.

550
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:29,570
Yeah, some like that, but he passed a bill on that.

551
00:43:29,570 --> 00:43:34,610
And it was meant for Green River, Emily, and Lawrence, and Senator, he can be ran.

552
00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:39,430
So, do we need an engineering study to identify it?

553
00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:51,290
Well, I think there's more, it's Pressur on Quest or whatever they are now, to use that, there's a regulatory way to do it.

554
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,850
And it would be getting the political Pressur on them to go do it.

555
00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:58,310
So, is that a John Cox?

556
00:43:59,350 --> 00:44:04,610
I think that's a project, that's a project.

557
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:13,480
He knows how to do regulation, and I honestly could figure that out, but it's been, but

558
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,760
I read it the year of centering a past it, and I haven't read it since then, so it's just

559
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,820
off the top of my head.

560
00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:26,200
But wasn't it, uh, didn't they spread the cost of moving into those new communities over all the rate payers?

561
00:44:27,220 --> 00:44:35,700
Yeah, that's what I mean. So they could go into, uh, town like Emory and charge all the rate payers instead of Utah a little bit more.

562
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:43,640
And it helped them. I mean, it's normal, but it spread. So it was meant to spread the cost instead of hitting a little town like Emory or Lawrence.

563
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:50,120
It was meant to spread it out across all of Utah to say, hey, yeah, we needed in these little towns and

564
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:56,420
So that I just am fuzzy on it. But yeah, I think John gosh could definitely go

565
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:25,020
Wouldn't both of those, uh, you make places benefit? Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, because they're using propane now, I mean, huh? They said it would save them a lot of money and they could actually produce more. I think my friends and jobs in the airmen too. Yeah, I think they just forgot about it. I mean, they got it. I mean, the green room and I think they just kind of dropped it.

566
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:41,260
So we'll leave that other 20,000, 30,000 unencumbered and that'll be enough.

567
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Okay.

568
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,940
When it comes to John Cox, we have a good project.

569
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:52,560
That's a great natural gas project and annual open.

570
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,580
If he does those three, I'd be very happy to learn about knowledge.

571
00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:04,580
And those are identifiable projects that we can measure and follow up on.

572
00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:10,280
What else do we need to use motion to?

573
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:18,420
Okay, all motions on the budget of $10,000 for the G&R entrepreneur, $125,000 for the

574
00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:25,080
BIG business improvement grant, $5,000 for the greener of our lines through the BIG,

575
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,940
through the Chamber, $30,000 for the John Cox and $30,000 on Unencumbering for now,

576
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,720
I'll make that motion.

577
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,480
as long as the John Cox has approved.

578
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:37,760
Confirmation.

579
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,660
Submit to the other.

580
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Yeah.

581
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:39,840
Okay.

582
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:41,720
So we have a motion.

583
00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:42,800
Yeah.

584
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,880
Do we have a second?

585
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,220
Okay.

586
00:46:44,980 --> 00:46:45,740
Larry seconds.

587
00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:47,800
Any further discussion?

588
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,480
All in favor?

589
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Say aye.

590
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:52,640
I.

591
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:53,140
I.

592
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:53,260
Aye.

593
00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:53,840
Aye.

594
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,160
Any opposed?

595
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,860
Motion passes.

596
00:46:58,350 --> 00:46:59,290
We have a great session.

597
00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:00,130
Thank you, Jim.

598
00:47:00,130 --> 00:47:07,270
So I told this to Commissioner Leonard earlier that I had some grandkids in that and I went

599
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:14,710
to the fair and I got a seven-year-old grandson that made swords on a wood and I went there

600
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:15,290
for ID.

601
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:17,410
Well I went there Saturday morning after the parade.

602
00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:18,430
How many could buy?

603
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:25,090
Well, my wife bought about $50 worth of it anyway.

604
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:30,110
The thing, I went there first thing after the parade and I said how are you doing?

605
00:47:30,110 --> 00:47:35,570
and he said, I covered my costs yesterday and today will be all profit.

606
00:47:36,310 --> 00:47:42,510
So, you got a seven-year-old that figured out and he made $600.

607
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:44,990
He got a great business plan.

608
00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:49,510
He cleared six grand costs on gold and he got $100.

609
00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:56,230
Well, it's impressive that they knew on Friday I covered my costs on Saturday.

610
00:47:56,230 --> 00:48:05,490
now I'm getting ready. That's a good program. I went to the auction and covered 750 of

611
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:06,450
a grand time.

612
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:12,890
I bought my own big back for $1,030.

613
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:17,770
I don't know what that means.

614
00:48:19,810 --> 00:48:21,750
The face painting did pretty much.

615
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:29,050
Yeah, but the face painting cleared six out of it anyway any other business if

616
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,020
not be appropriate to move to adjourn

617
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,640
Just just a couple quick thoughts just to make sure this is right in my head

618
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,940
So all of this needs to be approved this commission meeting the extra $15,000 the

619
00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:52,340
30 so we'll make sure all of this is on

620
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,540
next commission

621
00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:56,340
I mean, we're approval.

622
00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:59,420
But the John Clarks, if you don't want to go and shade

623
00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:02,260
with John on those projects,

624
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:04,160
so we might have to wait on that one.

625
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,300
We've got to have Mike look at the contract.

626
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,740
And maybe add in those three contracts.

627
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:10,220
That's from the project.

628
00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:12,700
Because if that's in the contract,

629
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,020
then the debt is not going to have any problems.

630
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,920
Yeah, it's an identifiable project.

631
00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:19,520
If it's an identifiable project.

632
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,480
So I think, and John's great on all three of those projects.

633
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,060
He can help on so, again, it might need some help, I can look at the contract.

634
00:49:30,860 --> 00:49:32,900
We move to the adjourn.

635
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:33,760
I'll make it.

636
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Second.

637
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,120
I don't think we need a second.

638
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:36,660
I'll do a second.

639
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,320
Can I have a adjourn?

640
00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:39,040
I'll make it to adjourn.