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Okay, it's seven o'clock. Let's do the point of the allegiance to

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the United States of America, and to the republic for religious hands, one nation, under the law, individual, with liberty and justice for all.

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I think I recognize Chief Mauser on the staff here tonight, did you have some comments on the left?

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Right.

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Well, what, it'll be on the, in order.

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Thank you.

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Any others?

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Any other?

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Okay.

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So we'll begin with,

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Stakele reports.

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You know, I'll please,

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I've kept it down.

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Marston is going to mind.

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God has excuse the day.

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Okay.

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And if Chief Mazda wants to report it, I'm going to take that time, Chief.

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Otherwise I will make some comments during the later section, but.

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How will we do this?

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Are you miss public comments?

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Chief, if you don't mind that, I'm getting ahead of my service.

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How to see.

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I'll do whatever you want.

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We're going to do public presence next.

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It was like to make public comment tonight.

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OK?

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Let's go, and Joe, anyone else?

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Robert?

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Jessica?

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Go ahead.

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Let's go.

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Ms. Emerson, five, six, five, five.

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Immigration, can you, right?

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I just wanted to address this.

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Again, the item, which is about the titled 19.84.

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Immigration, can you code for additional use?

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possible repeal and replacement.

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And I listened to some of the planning commission meetings.

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And I was encouraged to hear that there was a proposal

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that came out of the council to the planning commission

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that these types of things would be placed into a spreadsheet.

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And we could see what was old and what was proposed

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and the purpose for proposing it in the possible improvement

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and processes.

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And that did not apparently take root.

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And so I'm asking that for us as residents, the citizens that we have a right to, hopefully

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to see this, also the council, to see what is old and what is being proposed and to be able

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to evaluate that.

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And you just had that opportunity.

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I think it was kind of...

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It felt a little bit sprung.

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question. Is this regarding the specific ordinance or is it regarding the list of ordinances

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that are going to be changed? Well, I think it's a more important. It's a broad. Yeah, it's a broad umbrella

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over that whole process. I would think it's good for that as well. It's specifically, this is a

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time to bring that up because we have one as an example tonight, but yes, I think in general,

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I don't know what would be nice to have that, but particularly in a case where it might be quite

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substantive or have more impact, it would be very good to know what we're doing now, and it's

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a little from how we are looking at what's being done. So thank you. Joe.

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Yeah. As we Joe

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So I wanted to come before you guys and publicly thank Cameron for all the work that she has done for this canyon on multiple projects and the ability that she's brought to bring this controversial stuff, a little closer together.

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I just wanted to get that on public record.

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It was a thank you, but I think we all agree.

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Thank you, Kevin.

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Jessica,

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Robert, do you want to go first?

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I had sent some questions around.

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So these are the printout of it if you don't have it.

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I've been your name in the Robert McFarlane, 6102,

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Emigration Canyon Road.

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And so I handed the recorder a written comment

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with nine questions on item 10A and 10B,

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and request the written answers, and those will be attached to the sentence, I think they've been.

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And he'd been asked tonight to adopt two ordinances based on a plan and commission hearing

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the public and find notice anywhere. And there was no neighborhood notice protection within 300 feet,

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that was sort of gone, not was going to be in the prior notice, and that didn't happen. And then

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Approval standards are key to quote the adopted engineering standards, and that's a document that's not one person at this table is identified on the record.

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And if any of you can name that document tonight, it's titled, it's a adoption date, what it says about the road.

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I invite you to do it, and if you can, then you don't know what you're voting to incorporate in this thing that's on the table tonight.

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So underneath both these ordinances is the road and it was said in the public and the public planning

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commissions meeting in June 11 that no survey discrepancy, no title finding, could ever affect

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the project that the road can be modified however the city sees fit.

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My written comment asks, yes or no, it's at the city's official position, because it's not

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a law widening beyond the right of way that the state actually holds is new acquisition

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under the uniform act of cradle written offer just compensation are required and no construction

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dollars are going to flow until the right of way is certified under 23 CFR 635309.

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The state's own 1934 deeds show varying widths and one segment of court approved 25 foot from the center line.

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If the city's position is that none of that could ever matter put it in writing and oneness.

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If it's not the city's position, correct the record in writing.

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So there's a choice tonight. You can continue the items 10A and 10B to August 18 and come back with answers.

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or vote to adopt and certify to every resident of this canyon,

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they know what these organists incorporate and what was removed from them.

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No one at this table can honestly make that certification.

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So the questions are asked to the roads and roadside residents deserve an answer.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your comments.

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Jessica, Steve, it's an 11th.

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I'm Grayson.

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My question is, oh, I'm just a couple that will hear

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and nothing.

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We see button noise cameras tonight, and that's sure if there's any update.

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I'm very interested in that. I'd also be curious to know if we are able to get more weekend, night enforcement as the speeding cars very loud, moderate, etc.

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And then this is a question or comments that I made and passing another meeting, but I

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would just love for a canyon to start embracing the spirit of pioneer day.

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And with that, I think that the very simple thing that could be done hopefully right away

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would be to move the back hose away from the monument of the last camp that had been parked

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there for a very long time, and I think if it could give that monument a little bit more

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attention and just move those ugly machines that would be a good start.

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Great comments, thanks.

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Thank you.

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Okay, unified police. Sorry, Chief.

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Is there anybody online?

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All right.

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The Mayor Council, it's good to see you.

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Thanks for giving us just a little bit of your time to come up and give you an update.

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So what I want to talk to you about is

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department's going through an evolution and we're making some really good

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changes, we're growing, we're evolving, we're becoming more and more

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capable. And with that we made a major change and most police departments in the

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country achieve has an assistant sheet and it's really helpful to have an assistant

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sheet. I learned that out the hard way the last years. So that was finally able to

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to fruition, and I pointed just the whole of that position, he's ratified by the UPD board,

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but I wanted to bring him here so that he could see him because the reality of it is not

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that he's working for me, he works for you, and he's got a work ethic, like no other, he's

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very responsive.

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So everyone, she said, he's gonna fall on the other day.

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So I'll work.

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So thank you for that feedback and that's where we're going with this.

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It's a great move.

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I'm really happy for Justin and I'm happy for the department.

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It's a real close.

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We're going to get you.

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Thank you.

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And I'd like to have me be Justin to say we're going to introduce you to Luis.

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Well, thank you, Chief Mazrin.

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I'm truly honored to serve this role into work with you guys as Chief Mazrin.

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I'm here for you. I'm here for these for you guys for the community and to help support the amazing men and women that are up here and support you guys every single day

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I'm excited to work in this role and and work more closely with you and if there's anything you need or anything that I can do for you

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Please don't hesitate to reach out

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The promote a chief is chief Luis Alvado. You may be familiar with them. He was the exo over in milk Creek

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Did it really good job there

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serving the middle-cooking immigration, but now he is moving on and he took over for chief dial.

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And the reason I brought him is because I don't feel like myself or the promise done is good

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of jobs we should helping you with understand the shared services and he represents that because you

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guys pay in a little shared services and you get a lot of bang for your buck with that.

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And so I'm going to get him far more activated and just coming to some of these things building

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those relationships and again, he works for you and we're here to serve you and we love

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being your place of art.

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It's a good community.

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It's a big shoes to feel.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I'm really excited.

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Obviously, I've been serving you in the community for the last three years at the precinct

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level.

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But now at the opportunity to do it, we're sharing services, portion of UPD and that's really

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exciting for me.

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I like Chief Mazarin said, we haven't done a great job showing you what you're paying for.

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We are going to change that and you're going to see paying for your buck, why UPD?

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Why it's the super power of UPD?

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So very excited.

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Any issues with the shared services you can reach out to me directly?

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Just like you did before.

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This is just serving in again just in a different capacity.

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Any questions for us?

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I do.

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That's my answer.

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Maybe follow it.

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I know we talked about before and we came up last month.

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and then just come into it that this, in the trick of the college.

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But we had to talk about the noise camera, and I know it's gone through some,

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and talked about costs, and we talked about training.

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Did you ever come to a conclusion?

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So, that's a great question. I know that whole project's gone through some significant

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evolutions, a few setbacks, and world blocks.

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Unfortunately, Christine's application, I had talked to her about this,

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probably quite some time, but he and I will follow up on that and make sure that you get what you need.

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It seems like I know in the past, when I was on the board, we talked about the possibility of sharing a camera with a number of cities,

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which would seem to make a lot of sense, because it's expensive and we don't have a lot of money in.

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We're happy to participate, we're sick of, we just so sick every average average average noise and speed and stuff.

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Yeah, that is a double ball. It would make sense to ship something like bright for instance.

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Yeah, something I'll try to move back and forth.

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I think the element of surprise might be good.

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Just as a follow-up to one of the public comments, there is a conversation about patrol

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again night.

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And so the person who made that comment, we are in touch with the UPD and we've got something

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Very quick question not to deliver a long night, which hopefully I only will have, but you

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have mentioned showing some more bang for the buck.

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What are some of your ideas for showing that tangible over the coming year?

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as you're taking on and you know what do you see, what's tangible? Well, what I would say is what

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we need to do is do a better job with the shared services of communicating and do a better job

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of showing that to you. I'd love to, we did a presentation, you know, we've been communicating

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that incorrectly, we did a presentation on the cities of kind of an experiment and it really

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connected with them like, oh, we'll get it now.

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But two thirds of the shared services that you pay for,

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that don't can't do a job unless you have,

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and the officers are working in a community,

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and you know, when there's a big car crash or something like that,

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that's where that comes from.

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So I'd like what you're saying,

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would you just need to do better jobs?

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I think there's a lot of folks in my audience.

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Think enforcement is a really, really important component.

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And it is.

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I'm just starting to know how we show our communities

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what that enforcement of how we can do that there.

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Well, one thing we've been doing is we've been getting the entire motor squad together and

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doing a massive saturation enforcement.

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It's very effective, it has a big impact, but the impact is short because some people remember

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but after a period of time, people can't forget about that.

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We have to look at doing that and this can, if we can do that, sure that it's not hard

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because I think you'll have a different day now.

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You know, there's the canning during the day, and then there's nice weekend, and there's a big difference.

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You'll get, you know, when you're talking about noise, it's pretty evident.

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But people are coming up for it, because they know there's no.

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That's right.

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Well, thank you.

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You guys, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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I was cheap.

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Back on on it.

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Oh, I was lucky.

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I didn't see him on that.

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Okay, I used to play down on the Babylon fire and he said he could sign in if he needed it.

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But he has sent us a report that I was sent submit for the minutes.

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Every six months I do a fake.

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I'm looking for it right now.

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Every six months, if I fire, here it is.

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And I'm sorry, I don't know your name.

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I'm sorry.

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Sarah, I will pour this to Diane, because I don't have your email.

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I'm sorry.

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Agent, can they pour this out?

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I'll keep them out by instance, in the kin and we are at 32 incidents

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for the year. I need to note this.

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I'm not sure why the

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other thing. A couple things that

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he was going to report on, we just finished the brush chipping days. They chipped it a little

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over 200 residents. I don't have the final report yet, but they have a new process where they

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kind of helpful for us just to give an idea of what areas of the canyon are doing the most

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work and they did a great job as far as I'm aware of every pile is collected with a couple

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exceptions that there was a reason for the problem of being collected on a community with those

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residents. Again, as far as I'm aware, if you hear anything, I'm going to say hey, why didn't they

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these direct from me,

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then the last thing is there's been a lot of confusion about the fireworks.

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There is no statewide ban, in effect, however, our Immigration Canyon ban or fireworks

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is still in place.

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That means that even though fireworks are legal in some areas, they are not ever legal

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so I can just make sure people know that, and I, that's all other important things like

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board stuff later than we.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Gary.

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Do you want to talk about him?

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I'm sorry.

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There's been no animal service meeting this last 30 days.

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According to meeting will be this coming 30 days.

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There's anything up in that's directly influenced

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as her effects in British can.

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I shall call you mayor and can't give you a heads up.

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Thank you.

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OK, I'll land you some dates where Gilmour and I'll

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land you some training.

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I will be presenting to you during the business

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section, the ordinances, and then I can bring

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those sessions.

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So I'd say all my stuff.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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If I made it up, we did have one public comment

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that wasn't able to do so at the right time.

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Sure, we can do that.

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We got it back up and gone, so I'll promote them.

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Yeah, you're on mute, can I?

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Oh, yes, Janet, you'll need to unmute.

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There we go.

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Janet, we can't hear you, just yet.

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Can you try it in, Janet?

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We are not disobeyed.

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Does she need to turn the volume on her?

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No, it might be the phone would be picking it up, but

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sorry.

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Maybe I could just allow her to sleep.

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Janet, I'm just going to move you and see if this helps.

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Okay, Janet, if you don't want to unmute yourself, try that.

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Not getting anything still.

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Try it now, Janet.

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One more time, Janet.

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Yeah.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Thank you for your patience.

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Thanks, guys.

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Okay, go ahead, Janet.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Um,

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are you getting video or that just off?

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That's what we're talking about too.

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Okay.

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I'm trying to get rid of that.

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Something that's...

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Am I an attendee or a per panel?

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I'll just try the attendee.

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Oh, we're starting at the beginning here.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Am I joining as a panelist?

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I I can try and allow you again, but it said you declined it. If you don't mind just I'll send it one more time

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Okay, there you go.

321
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And now you'll be talking. There you go. Is that working? Yes, all right

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I just really wanted to talk about the conditional use

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Ordnance and the changes being made there.

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I didn't find in the supporting documents anything that shows

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was what's being replaced. So the old...

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And the new that are going in there. I don't know if you have a hand out over there tonight, but that really should be part of this discussion is what's being replaced and what's going in that's new so that we can compare and see what this is all about.

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Is that something you as a council have?

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You're going to be able to hear that discussion a little bit later when we get to that ordinance.

329
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Okay, but are you going to be handing out a document that shows new old?

330
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Well, I'm sure we'll have an explanation of why there is a change.

331
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Okay, but we really should be able to see the old and the new,

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to understand it. I mean, we need to read it and understand it.

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you haven't had time, or the availability of that information.

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In a state the ordinance has been published.

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I'm sorry.

336
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Yeah, it was also posted with any information.

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Then I'll do that.

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The ordinance is our online.

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Yes, ma'am.

340
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And I'm seeing it as page 18 of 25.

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It's in the package.

342
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Yes, sir.

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Is it in the supporting documents with the agenda?

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Because I didn't see it.

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page 18 of 25.

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Okay.

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18 of 25.

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Okay. Okay. All right. And, Claire, if you would be able to speak up, can't hear you when you talk.

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I can't ever hear you understand what you're explaining. And this is pretty important.

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Of course, I'm sorry.

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If you couldn't, you know, really clearly, like, just pretend we're five year olds, okay?

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And explain it to us that way.

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I apologize, I will definitely, I, I, I usually am being accused of being too loud.

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So I will be more cognizant. I'm sorry.

355
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Okay, no, thank you. It's really important that we understand this.

356
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Thank you.

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Anything else, Janet?

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No, that's it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

361
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Okay.

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All right. Next to our agenda is engineering updates.

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I just wanted to let you know that at least as of and it looks like it's working now, but at least as of 7-11 when I tried to call into the meeting. I got a message of the host had another meeting in progress and it wasn't going through.

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You were aware that I just want to make you a ride.

365
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It wasn't in the settings issue.

366
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Yeah.

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I just figured I might have done other people who tried to join and gave up.

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I'm a close, so I walked over, but I just wanted you to be aware of that.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Can you make it better?

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Can you make it better?

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Sure.

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Can you make it better?

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Thank you.

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I shouldn't have told you to be able to share this by being panelists.

377
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Does she usually have to give you permission?

378
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Yes.

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I also emailed it to you, you just want to bring it up and more on that, that's also an option.

380
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The Jeopardyid is just for you.

381
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Okay, so I'm here with Lisa Allen, she's the City Engineer for Immigration, the Director of Engineering for the MSD.

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While they work on replacing me, she will be covering Immigration for the time being.

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So that's why she is here.

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You're

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a place.

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You can't agree.

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That's a box.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

389
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I'm working together for a decade and a half.

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So this is a hard move.

391
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Hard change.

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Sorry.

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Still getting into this

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video.

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You should be able to click on the little plane.

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A plane air off the top.

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In the phone.

398
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No.

399
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Oh, there you go.

400
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Okay.

401
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You can go to the next slide, please.

402
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First thing, it's sweeping has come up a couple of times and I said I would look into it.

403
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The fiscal year 27 budget has monthly sweeping and immigration canyon in practice,

404
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Stevens of the Fair doing two plus times a month or approximately every other week.

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There is a website that ops has the tracks when they have swept last and so you'll be able

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to access this from the packet after the minutes go out.

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You can either scan that or the link or I use the link at the bottom so that you can access and figure out when the last time was that they swept.

408
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It won't tell you when the next time it's scheduled.

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But I wanted to get back to you a much know that that was the response from office.

410
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:33,170
It's the possibility of as a default when we have a significant range storm that we sweep because that's the next day when I ride on.

411
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I have asked options to look into what the cost would be for a higher level of service.

412
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I have a person with them yet.

413
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Go ahead, please.

414
00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:44,170
Yeah, I think the stated level of service isn't monthly or is it annual?

415
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We have 300 miles of roads in the MSD that, like, any operations is contracted to do the

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street sweeping for.

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So they would not be able to hit all the roads the day after it rains.

418
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We could talk to them and see if they could prioritize immigration.

419
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I think when you're out in the flat, after a raise term is a lot less impactful than when we have these side slopes that wash on to the road, in which we have many.

420
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We can talk to us.

421
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I also want to let the council know that there will be some micro-pave warranty work.

422
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We were just notified yesterday of this work.

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There's some repair of premature deterioration at multiple locations.

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There are going to be a message board going up.

425
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I noticed that you've already got one up for the 24th of July, I think they're planning

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on putting it up.

427
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It's not ours.

428
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I know.

429
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I don't know who it is, but they'll be a conflict with that.

430
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The message board will say that there's a pilot car operation, and they'll have the dates

431
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eight, one, to eight, five, and it'll say bikes, pedestrians, prohibited, and expect heavy

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to lay it delays.

433
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And that's what they had on the message board when they did the project before.

434
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My question for the council is, are there any scheduled conflicts that you're aware of?

435
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Is there any reason that we should tell?

436
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Some of them, that those dates will not work.

437
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,300
Do we know what's being?

438
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400
I don't, I haven't seen anything.

439
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,720
I can't even see that if we could.

440
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,680
I can reach out to options, see what they can provide.

441
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,440
So, the only conflict that I can see, there's a event.

442
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,360
So if these don't work, Germany and there's an event that was applied for it.

443
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,260
I don't think it's been permitted yet. But it was on the 12th.

444
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We'll be done. So the first and the fifth.

445
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the first of it.

446
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,460
Well, I'm just saying things don't always start at time.

447
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Well, so, because it's not a full-terogic and it's just the minor

448
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and parerworks, I will let the noses of rays, and then you'd be finished.

449
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,560
So I'm saying that you're, because you're, because you're going to do a lot of

450
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nobody's going to write on it.

451
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:49,100
You probably ought to stay clear of those dates.

452
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Okay.

453
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The 12th.

454
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Yeah.

455
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,500
Okay.

456
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Thank you.

457
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,660
It sounds like this is more than a bike line repair.

458
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:57,760
I'm unsure because it's all being run through ops.

459
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,960
So what I know is what's on there.

460
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,530
I can do something Joe.

461
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,980
Do you know something Joe?

462
00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:12,540
It's hard on the road with white lines.

463
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,380
I'm going to sit as this now.

464
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,180
Thank you.

465
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,000
I was wondering how it goes well.

466
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:22,820
Okay.

467
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Find out who can either reach out to us or we can do it.

468
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,900
Do you play a class?

469
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,900
Still your pen.

470
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:34,920
They're going to operate under the previous permit.

471
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,940
So Lacey's the permit specialist for the special events and I think you were asking about

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who the contact is with ops in this painting project.

473
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:43,380
Okay.

474
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Right?

475
00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:44,960
There's that.

476
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Yes.

477
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,900
That's what I was asking about because it would be nice to know.

478
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:50,500
It's going to happen.

479
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Especially since it's over.

480
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,420
It's a better part of the week.

481
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Yeah, this is about the event.

482
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Okay.

483
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,660
Those were the not capital projects that I wanted to share with you. We'll

484
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hurry and go through the capital projects. For the MSD Transportation Master Plan, they

485
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have set up another meeting with the East Side Communities and West Side Communities,

486
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,180
And they will be sending the consultant will be sending out invites to the council for that.

487
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:42,040
You're not required to attend, but if you would like to you can, anything to add on the master plan.

488
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Okay, if you'll go ahead and answer it, Sarah.

489
00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:52,820
With the Road Safety Improvement Project, there was a July email update that was sent on the 16th of July.

490
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,460
The Open House, this is, these are the things that are covered in net email that the Open

491
00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:03,160
House was on the 30th and 90-plus people attended, and the email included links to the

492
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,860
information boards that were shared at that Open House.

493
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,140
It shared that they're the next steps or that the team members will conduct field work,

494
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:15,960
and that letters have been sent to residents indicating that it also had a schedule.

495
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:20,540
The draft is anticipated this fall, and when that draft is released, there will be a public

496
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:24,580
hearing and a formal comment period associated with that.

497
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:28,600
Here are a couple of ways you can access the project website.

498
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,540
You can either use the link. You can scan the QR code or on the immigration

499
00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:36,720
can in website. If you scroll down, there is a direct link to the project

500
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,580
website. There are multiple different ways that you can access that.

501
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,840
When you click on that, it brings up this page. If you click the next one,

502
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,520
I didn't realize that these were links. And that's where the

503
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,920
one more. If you click on this one with materials and documents it'll bring up the night next slide

504
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:01,920
and that's where you find the open house display boards. You click on that link there. Also there's

505
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:10,340
the project timeline that they have and then to receive those monthly email updates you email immigration

506
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:16,160
canyon that you taught.gov to get on that list and so I just wanted that to be public information

507
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600
on how to get involved and included in those emails.

508
00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:22,120
Next one is immigration creek culverts.

509
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,940
I've got to have the second.

510
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:25,540
I'm not sure what you call it.

511
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,480
Not really stakeholder.

512
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:27,400
Yes.

513
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,380
The community engagement.

514
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,180
They have not yet.

515
00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:30,560
Okay.

516
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:32,700
But they are planning on having that.

517
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:33,160
Yes.

518
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,220
I have not seen anything go out for it.

519
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:37,660
Yeah.

520
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:38,460
Okay.

521
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:38,980
Thanks.

522
00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:41,800
Immigration Creek culverts.

523
00:34:42,480 --> 00:35:01,780
The 95% review is still pending, the temporary construction easements are still pending, and we're coming up on that timeline where we have to decide if we're going this fall or not, and we'll know that with the next month, so when we'll come back and report, she'll have more information on that.

524
00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:05,980
Again, this guy press lane access will be maintained through the direction.

525
00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:15,200
Freeze-crick wall reconstruction, as I discussed last month, there are multiple locations

526
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,780
that we're looking at.

527
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:16,880
So the map there on the right.

528
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:21,420
The circle on the top is deficiency number two.

529
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:27,920
As pencil number hairs, mentions are hox, sorry, talx mentions,

530
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,800
the culvert there is

531
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,380
for the turnaround for safety, and so we added that in there that's a $25,000 cost, and then the

532
00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:41,900
gave you a basket that the three location have that price range. Engineering is reviewing those and

533
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:47,580
they'll send an email to the council with their recommendation. We'll include that memo for you to

534
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:51,940
review as well. And then the FEMAF flood map update,

535
00:35:54,260 --> 00:35:57,280
a couple of things, as I mentioned before,

536
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,740
for permitting, we're permitting to both, because the current maps are what we have to legally

537
00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:09,060
go by and in locations the creek doesn't line up with the current map and so we also have

538
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:13,400
to go by the best available data which is what we're trying to get FEMA to approve and so

539
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,180
right now for permitting, we're doing both. FEMA has requested additional information.

540
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:25,160
We submitted that additional information to the Mongeoli 16th. We did just here back from FEMA again

541
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:31,300
today. There are notices that will be sent out to impacted residents. The

542
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:35,640
flyer for that information that we sent to impacted residents was sent to

543
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,300
FEMA for them to approve and then it will be sent out and we hear from

544
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:44,180
FEMA that they have approval to send out what we've drafted. Again, that's

545
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:50,160
FEMA timeline, so can you explain impacted residents? Is that what you need to go

546
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,300
or like access their property? There will be properties that are currently

547
00:36:54,300 --> 00:37:04,600
not in a flood tine, but the risk exists there. And so the map will update because they are

548
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,040
actually within the flood tine. The map is really weird. Sometimes it's on the wrong side of

549
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,140
the road, even. So the creeks over here and the map is over here. So the residents that the map

550
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:19,340
is moving to where the creek is will get a letter saying, hey, your property is potentially moving

551
00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:23,160
into the flood tine. Even though it doesn't show it directly. It doesn't show it to the dead.

552
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,900
But on the new approved maps it will so it's letting those residents know that change is coming.

553
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:36,660
I'm going through the approve process. The old one was probably from the 80s or 90s. It's old.

554
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,260
I mean, I've lived up here since the, and the creek is not moved. The map was incorrect from the beginning.

555
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:54,020
Yeah, so I think the survey gets hard with the elevation. So it could have been a survey, datum error when they did the maps originally, but that has been part of the challenge,

556
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:56,820
I mean, teaming the FEMA flood permit.

557
00:37:57,980 --> 00:38:03,720
So immigration is part of the national flood insurance program in order to do that.

558
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:09,780
You have to enforce these flood plans and it's been really hard to do with the flood plan

559
00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:11,240
to show them nowhere to get the crate.

560
00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:13,120
So we're working to frame that.

561
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080
It looks completely good at right this time.

562
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,040
I mean, just not a long distance or a large treatment.

563
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,720
So it is us.

564
00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:22,440
We did the study and we submitted to FEMA.

565
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,580
We want the map change to match what is actually happening on the ground.

566
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,600
But the FEMA processes also slow.

567
00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:32,980
So the whole time I've been here with them.

568
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,980
Well, I'm talking about the map from the 80s.

569
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,400
I don't think you were around them.

570
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,160
No.

571
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:41,700
Everywhere alive.

572
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:44,620
Okay.

573
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:44,980
Thank you.

574
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,160
Are there any questions?

575
00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:48,020
Okay.

576
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,360
This is your last meeting.

577
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,620
This will be my last meeting.

578
00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:52,500
I'll be here through the end of next week.

579
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,540
Well, thank you for everything we've done.

580
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Thank you.

581
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,520
It's really been really helpful.

582
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,200
I'd like your coherent and clear reports.

583
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:03,440
Thank you.

584
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Good luck, sir.

585
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:05,260
Good luck.

586
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,460
Thank you all.

587
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:08,380
Thank you.

588
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,620
Thank you.

589
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:12,480
Okay.

590
00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:14,980
Moving on, consent agenda approval.

591
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,160
June 16, 2021, six council meeting minutes.

592
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,060
I, unless there's discussion, I'd like to move, but really a proof of that.

593
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:30,480
I'll second.

594
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,180
Motion is second all in favour?

595
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,160
I did anybody see in then two versions?

596
00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:39,240
Well, there was one of us though.

597
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:43,540
Oh, yeah.

598
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,900
So you have to decide which one we would put in what I already is to prove.

599
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,120
I don't know.

600
00:39:51,690 --> 00:40:01,030
That's a good question. I'm not certain how we handle that because I don't think that's a different discussion

601
00:40:01,030 --> 00:40:02,750
But I

602
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:11,000
don't see any reason not to have the boat if she's producing

603
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,180
So just take one summary, one for long.

604
00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:20,700
Yes.

605
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,720
I don't think.

606
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:25,340
All right.

607
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:26,100
All right.

608
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,400
All right.

609
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,380
Thank you.

610
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:29,280
All right.

611
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,440
A monthly financial report.

612
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:32,740
Thank you.

613
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:34,760
Have any comments on it?

614
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:35,980
No, at this point now.

615
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,500
I think it's a long story story.

616
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,760
I just, I did have a question.

617
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,240
As long as we're talking about finance.

618
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,620
Apparently Stuart Colby has no longer.

619
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:46,260
He's gone.

620
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:46,420
He's gone.

621
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,960
And we haven't.

622
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:48,600
He's gone.

623
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:49,800
He's gone.

624
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,900
He's gone.

625
00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:56,040
Okay, temporary replacement.

626
00:40:57,980 --> 00:41:00,900
First day I knew what his temporary replacement, like in his role.

627
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,080
Just, but yeah, you'll have a new person taking.

628
00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:06,200
Okay, let's go.

629
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:08,320
I'll follow up on that.

630
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,920
Later this week to find out more about what day I knew.

631
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,380
Where it stands and what's going on with the replacement and the report back.

632
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:29,420
I think it's time tomorrow's MSD board agenda that replacement is there this is speaking to the MSD but is there a way to get an update?

633
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:41,220
I may go with maybe it's just on MSD but it would be nice to know because like I've got out after that to ensure I've been working with her for years on

634
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:46,260
for just seeing the milk and stuff and then all of a sudden she's gone so it would

635
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:52,280
be nice to have some either an update or means a new product or stuff that would

636
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,280
have been a reduction and it's a tough one and there's a lot of turnover and yeah I don't know

637
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:06,280
who it's difficult to with employment matters to have that in a public meeting and so I think

638
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:13,660
We could certainly work on, you know, maybe getting an email sent to the council on that.

639
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:21,560
But employment matters are generally confidential unless, you know, there's some discipline and issues like that,

640
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:25,180
but I think we could try to work on the non-public update.

641
00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:27,080
That's what I would say.

642
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:47,000
We have no

643
00:42:53,780 --> 00:42:59,080
public

644
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,200
hearing tonight, we're going to move to the Council of Business, and

645
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:16,840
First item has discussion and potential action, regarding ordinance 2026-007, immigration

646
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,060
can and code for development agreements.

647
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:24,240
So, Ben, it's not here, because the indicated that he was going to attend.

648
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,280
He's not on my side, he's going to send us, he's going to send us, he's going

649
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:31,740
to send us.

650
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:32,000
Okay.

651
00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:34,810
Thank you, sir.

652
00:43:36,190 --> 00:43:37,690
Can you make it closer to Ben?

653
00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:40,990
I think I'm wondering if I should do that.

654
00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:43,930
I have my notes,

655
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:50,410
please let me know if you can hear me.

656
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:54,300
Thank you.

657
00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:03,880
I think that the council is already aware that the bulk of not the bulk.

658
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:11,540
There are many sections of the immigration canyon code that have not been updated in a decade plus.

659
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:15,600
And certainly have not been updated since immigration canyon and incorporated of the city.

660
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:30,060
So, what you're seeing when you see Atlantic ordinances are recommended ordinances from the planning commission that represent updates, not just to the immigration canyon code,

661
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:45,580
but it will excuse me, not just updated in terms of the needs of immigration canyon, but also under requirements that are passed by the legislature, by case law,

662
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:52,000
by administrative law judges all kinds of different sources that require us to

663
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:59,980
incorporate the legal landscape and really the goal with land use is not just

664
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,960
As to comply, but to use the tools that we are legally able to use in the most effective way for the city.

665
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:29,680
So we'll start with development agreements. Development agreements are a land use tool where, essentially, it is a legislative decision, and what that means is that it is entirely in your discretion, whether or not to approve a development agreement or not approve a development agreement.

666
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:37,560
A development agreement is a land is considered a land use regulation such that it will go to planning commission first.

667
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:45,800
It will be noticed like a new land use regulation because essentially a development agreement is the land use regulation for that particular property.

668
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:52,380
And then it will come to the city council and here again it is entirely a legislative decision.

669
00:45:52,380 --> 00:46:22,280
What development agreements do is, and here again, these are a function of state code, one of the few tools that we have left from the state code, under Section 102508, which basically sets forth that in circumstances, there are certain circumstances under which we can require, as we call it, and that's where we can put in,

670
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:29,240
additional conditions sometimes. There are there for administrative processes we cannot

671
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:36,520
require a development agreement. However, what I have seen consistently, particularly

672
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:42,060
in areas that are difficult to develop given topography, is that developers will

673
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:47,280
come in and they will say, okay, you know, I want to build, I want to do this subdivision

674
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,040
And I really want to do what's in the best interest of the city.

675
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,440
And I want to make it a good subdivision.

676
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,840
I can't quite make the set back on the Southwest corner.

677
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:01,500
So what do we say?

678
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,880
OK, well, let's look at a development agreement option.

679
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:08,800
And then once we are in that arena, what

680
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,040
the city is able to do is say, we think that we

681
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:22,240
have some design standards that the with one fell swoop of the pen two years ago, the legislature

682
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:29,460
took away from us. We are no longer allowed to impose certain design standards, but under

683
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:35,440
the development agreement what we can say is okay, sir, you need four or five feet on as a

684
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,820
compromise on a step back over here or a compromise on height over here. There are some design

685
00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:48,960
standards that we would like to incorporate in order to make your subdivision a part of the

686
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:59,920
city that fits with the nature of the environment and the kind of character that we're

687
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:11,800
trying to to keep or develop either one. So that is the tool. That's the legal way to go

688
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:19,860
through it to enter into that kind of agreement legally, under state code, and I would like

689
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:25,320
very much, and the planning commission recommends that we implement similar provisions for

690
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:31,180
immigration canyon code so that we have that to available to us. Again, the ordinance language

691
00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:39,860
is very simple because it is so largely governed already by statute. We have put in here,

692
00:48:39,860 --> 00:48:49,540
But, you know, pretty easy steps and parameters, I'm happy to address any questions that you may have about those steps and standards.

693
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:59,960
But there, these are very frequently used throughout cities and this ordinance looks very much like what other cities use.

694
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:11,100
of a couple of questions is that my first question and just for clarification for development

695
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:17,540
is this development of any property or the development what we typically use the word

696
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,440
where it's a subdivision.

697
00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:28,000
It's well, it falls under land use, so any land use would require an application, essentially.

698
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:36,860
for unimproved land or any, you know, if you want to remodel your house or add onto your house.

699
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,500
I mean, I'm just not sure the scope of it.

700
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Um, the scope will be mostly unimproved land.

701
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,080
That's when you will most frequently see it.

702
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:55,940
I don't see a reason why we couldn't do it for a remodel or anything that comes under title 19.

703
00:49:57,740 --> 00:50:05,940
we'll qualify, height, setback, so if somebody were remodeling for example, they and they were

704
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:12,320
having a height issue or something along those lines, the development agreement is in place

705
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:18,220
in order to facilitate discussions and give and take between cities and developers.

706
00:50:18,460 --> 00:50:23,820
And it only comes in to play once somebody cannot meet all the previously outlined.

707
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:34,000
not necessarily. No, it's very, very flexible. Those are examples of where I have most

708
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:40,060
commonly seen them. In cities that I have worked for previously, particularly ones with

709
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:53,800
development challenges or challenges where the city was not getting the type of

710
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,600
ground in terms of land use entirely but there are certain administrative processes that the

711
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,860
cities locked into approving if they check the boxes.

712
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,180
So it's really difficult sometimes to get the development that you want in terms of your

713
00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:13,980
design standards in terms of the way that you wanted to look without the flexibility of being

714
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:18,880
able to have some given take and that's sort of and that's where the development agreements come in

715
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:25,700
And this is where I've seen them to be very effective in getting cities better developments,

716
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:36,300
more in line with their vision of what they want their cities to look like.

717
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:37,380
I'm going to promote.

718
00:51:39,260 --> 00:51:39,860
Okay.

719
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:46,700
And is this ordinance brand new or is this replacing previous ordinance?

720
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,200
And I noted that there is language that is missing.

721
00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:53,920
It is repealing and replacing 1804-040,

722
00:51:57,260 --> 00:52:00,620
just for everyone's information.

723
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:10,980
Whenever we are just taking an ordinance and throwing it out, we're not using it.

724
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,160
It's garbage for whatever reason,

725
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,840
that is why there's no comparison.

726
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:26,100
And I'll tell you, we tried at the planning commission level for a really long time to do exactly what's being suggested.

727
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,980
The problem is that the ordinances are so old.

728
00:52:30,270 --> 00:53:00,250
And the requirements, for example, are all under the county, which had a completely different set of ordinances, a totally different type of governments, form of government. There was no way to say, you know, there was, there was no way to cohesively or even, you know, logically, set forth, it's not apples to apples. It's not okay. We're making this change here, and we're going to make, it's not, it's not okay. We're making this change here.

729
00:53:00,270 --> 00:53:09,430
from this list. It's this is out. And we're stepping into 2026 with language that is appropriate.

730
00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:15,930
Yeah. And I think it's just worth saying, yeah, it doesn't go without saying. It should

731
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:21,730
be said that just as a reminder, and I know now that most of you have lived here, perhaps

732
00:53:21,730 --> 00:53:30,110
as long as I have it longer, but when we became first Metro Township, I don't know, was it

733
00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:38,550
even before that? But we adopted Salt Lake County's ordinances wholesale, because we had

734
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:44,490
no choice. It was like, oh, we're a township tomorrow. We need ordinances. Here you have

735
00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:52,590
and have gradually been modifying them, updating them, mostly just adding the name EC Metro

736
00:53:52,590 --> 00:53:58,770
Tomchip rather than actually looking at them quickly. I forget the exact date. It was

737
00:53:58,770 --> 00:54:04,850
three or four years ago. We requested the planning commission to start going through things.

738
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:10,170
This was mostly because it had never been done and it needed to be done. It was then somewhat

739
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:18,150
driven, to be candid by what most people perceive as threats to what we're trying to promote

740
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:27,990
in the can. You know, to protect us against large subdivisions, like the one where I live.

741
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:36,410
Any more large subdivisions, maybe I should say. And I'm speaking somewhat tongue-in-cheek,

742
00:54:36,410 --> 00:54:41,270
But it is, you know, to try to promote what most people value up here.

743
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:44,890
So I just, I want to make sure that people understood that.

744
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:45,810
Thank you.

745
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:47,250
Is that, did I?

746
00:54:47,410 --> 00:54:49,690
Yes, you captured it, you captured it beautifully.

747
00:54:50,090 --> 00:54:54,330
If there was a way to do an apples to apples comparison,

748
00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:57,550
we would most certainly have done that.

749
00:54:57,550 --> 00:55:01,270
And we tried the planning commission members can tell you.

750
00:55:01,270 --> 00:55:09,450
We really did, but we just spent so much time trying to get those, you know, round holes

751
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:14,330
into the square pegs that we just said, you know what, we need to move on this.

752
00:55:14,450 --> 00:55:16,030
We need to move in 2026.

753
00:55:16,330 --> 00:55:20,170
We need to get these updates going and make recommendations to the council of what our

754
00:55:20,170 --> 00:55:22,310
ordinances need to look like.

755
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:26,670
I know that when possibly you have provided this red line version, which is really helpful.

756
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,310
Right.

757
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:29,050
To the extent that we can do that.

758
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:34,550
I think it's fair to say, this is not a requirement to do anything.

759
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:38,590
It's a tool in the toolbox that we may or may not ever use.

760
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:44,690
But saying let's, you know, we've got a breakdown in communication on a project.

761
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:47,190
Let's try development agreement.

762
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:50,970
Then we have an ordinance that allows us to do that.

763
00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:52,190
It's just simply a tool.

764
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:55,230
That's exactly right, sir.

765
00:55:55,230 --> 00:56:04,850
And I don't think that it's a secret that the state really keeps ratcheting down our land use rights every year.

766
00:56:05,610 --> 00:56:11,130
So to the extent that we have a tool, we need to keep it in the toolbox.

767
00:56:11,810 --> 00:56:18,190
I believe it's an important land use by municipalities to govern their own.

768
00:56:18,190 --> 00:56:18,890
That's correct.

769
00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:20,990
Their own laws and regulation.

770
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:21,730
Yes, sir.

771
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:22,590
That's right.

772
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:23,930
That's exactly right.

773
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:29,430
I don't think this threatens us in any way and it's actually about to have this too.

774
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:38,950
No, that's exactly, that's what we can use to respond when they slash an ability, for example.

775
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:49,850
Again, I go back to the design standards all the time because I'm still in awe that they took those out of land use.

776
00:56:49,870 --> 00:56:50,650
Yes, ma'am.

777
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:53,070
Do you think reference design guidelines?

778
00:56:54,130 --> 00:56:56,950
Is there anything other than the engineering standards that we

779
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:59,950
are approved that would, like,

780
00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:02,610
did the government buy outcomes or government engineers?

781
00:57:02,810 --> 00:57:05,330
And there's, do we need to develop a,

782
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:07,690
like, section for?

783
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:11,350
So guidelines that we incorporate anything in that development?

784
00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:14,790
So on, for the development agreement ordinance,

785
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:15,570
no.

786
00:57:16,110 --> 00:57:19,750
But I can address the standards, I think,

787
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:21,950
that you might be referring to in the conditional use

788
00:57:21,950 --> 00:57:23,170
sortment, if you'd like.

789
00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:25,510
Well, you can look at about height, and you're talking

790
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:28,810
about maybe perhaps a ridge line, or something like that.

791
00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:31,670
If there's something that governs that.

792
00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:32,870
Yes.

793
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:35,230
So this, yes.

794
00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:40,910
Title 19, Title 18, Title 19, and then all of the upcuts

795
00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:43,790
were more specific, we would have to be able to do that

796
00:57:43,790 --> 00:57:44,750
in the development center.

797
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:45,390
Yes, man.

798
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:46,150
That's right.

799
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:46,950
That's right.

800
00:57:47,570 --> 00:57:49,990
I don't mean any questions on this ordinance.

801
00:57:50,650 --> 00:57:53,830
I'm just looking at this and we just look at what code and it looks like we're moving

802
00:57:53,830 --> 00:57:59,470
at out of Title 18 and which is subdivisions into Title 19, which is so.

803
00:57:59,630 --> 00:58:00,350
Yes, sir.

804
00:58:00,590 --> 00:58:02,870
And I apologize for the oversight on the ordinance.

805
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:06,710
But yes, we would be repealing 1804040.

806
00:58:07,090 --> 00:58:16,770
And I've just read the entire thing and it seems like this newer version has some

807
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:20,730
development unit, the stage with the property of the government, the two ones, but by and

808
00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:24,410
large, it's just a modernized version of the exact same thing that's there.

809
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:29,810
So I've also included some terms of art that are included in the state statute.

810
00:58:30,570 --> 00:58:38,890
Just to be sure that it's crystal clear that we are authorized by state statute to implement

811
00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:39,750
this tool.

812
00:58:40,790 --> 00:58:41,870
No further questions.

813
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:43,230
Thank you.

814
00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:49,530
questions. Yes, I am building on that. I do go back and read 18 and 19 and some of the

815
00:58:49,530 --> 00:58:54,390
foundational ordinances before that. So I feel they are very they're not the easiest

816
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:59,510
read. I'm not a lawyer or an engineer. But they're not the easiest. I get to just

817
00:58:59,510 --> 00:59:04,770
have it and thank you for your clarification about developers and having some

818
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:13,210
that of a negotiation back and forth about how standards can be met. That was really

819
00:59:13,210 --> 00:59:21,550
I spoke to a couple of developers who use these in other cities and understand how other cities are using this in the way you describe it.

820
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:22,240
So thank you.

821
00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:27,470
I don't understand how to visit property owners following this.

822
00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:28,890
It's still confusing to me.

823
00:59:30,310 --> 00:59:34,710
How does a development agreement going to affect just your average property owner?

824
00:59:34,890 --> 00:59:35,650
There's not a developer.

825
00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:38,210
There's not building a great thing.

826
00:59:38,830 --> 00:59:45,490
I'm assuming any change with footprints going to require a building permit and things like that for a normal house.

827
00:59:45,970 --> 00:59:49,790
How does the development agreement impact individual property?

828
00:59:50,250 --> 00:59:52,950
Not much. Not much.

829
00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:54,170
Probably never.

830
00:59:54,910 --> 00:59:56,710
Right, exactly. Yes.

831
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:59,610
I'd be the less, again, they want to commence some kind of development.

832
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:17,100
On their property. I think this is when someone comes in with an idea that's unusual that doesn't fit clearly into the zoning ordinances and that's also that we have a way to talk about it and think about it and possibly modify it and possibly approve it.

833
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:24,860
So if we look at it exhibit day and number day, it says probably our show not had to

834
01:00:24,860 --> 01:00:30,100
type them right to a property development agreement and that voluntary consent of the property owner

835
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,940
and legislative approval required.

836
01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:33,640
That's right.

837
01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:39,420
That seems need of your property owners to stay perceived at the table for lack of a better

838
01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:39,520
person.

839
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:43,980
Well, so the way the property owner in that context is going to be the developer.

840
01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:47,460
What they do is they come in, they, you know, right.

841
01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:47,720
Okay.

842
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:49,440
Just want to make that.

843
01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:49,620
Yeah.

844
01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:50,140
Nope.

845
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,880
That's a great question.

846
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:52,860
Thank you.

847
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:53,940
So just one more.

848
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,320
When you talk about it, go into the planning question.

849
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,360
Can you just write just what that process is?

850
01:00:59,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Sure.

851
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:01,320
Go to the planning question.

852
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,860
And then the planning commission brings it to the city.

853
01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:05,580
Get the planning commission.

854
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:11,040
We'll see the draft of the development agreement and review whatever attachments there are to it

855
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:19,220
in terms of the plans and specifications or subdivision, this sort of thing, and then the planning

856
01:01:19,220 --> 01:01:24,520
commission will make a recommendation similar to other land use regulations to this

857
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Council for acceptance or denial.

858
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:31,890
And now would come in a city maybe, right?

859
01:01:32,290 --> 01:01:32,690
Yes, okay.

860
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:38,940
Anybody care of me?

861
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,840
Yeah.

862
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,460
I need something to read.

863
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,460
But we do need to exchange it so that the previous 18 point.

864
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,120
If you would be so kind in your motion to

865
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:04,740
motion to approve the ordinance as set forth an exhibit A and repeal title

866
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:10,540
1804-040. That would be lovely. And I apologize for the, again.

867
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,420
1804-040.

868
01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:14,980
0, 0,

869
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,060
0, 0, I move that we vote

870
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:36,050
to approve ordinance 20.6-0-0-0-0-7 as outlined in appendix, it

871
01:02:36,050 --> 01:02:42,030
in exhibit A, and also had language statement that we are repealing previous ordinance

872
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:46,410
18.04.040. Thank you.

873
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:47,310
Thank you.

874
01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:48,930
Any discussion?

875
01:02:49,970 --> 01:02:50,530
All in favour?

876
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:51,830
I think we should do it.

877
01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:52,510
We need a roll call.

878
01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:53,090
Okay.

879
01:02:59,620 --> 01:03:00,620
I don't know the last two.

880
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:01,940
Just go ahead on the line.

881
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:02,960
Hey, hello.

882
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:05,560
Krita.

883
01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:06,520
Hi.

884
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:06,740
Greetings.

885
01:03:08,740 --> 01:03:09,360
After a year,

886
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,620
I...

887
01:03:11,620 --> 01:03:13,040
How did you know that?

888
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,520
Thank you.

889
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:15,480
Okay.

890
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,320
item being a discussion and potential action regarding orders.

891
01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:27,360
2020-2080, we're feeling and replacing the conditional use, can you go?

892
01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:28,900
Thank you, sir.

893
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,740
Oh, during the time for some discussion,

894
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,480
did you address the, maybe you're getting to know that?

895
01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:39,960
The question about the notice?

896
01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:47,900
All I checked and everything was properly noticed, both of these ordinances were properly

897
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:48,880
no-one's set-up.

898
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:54,380
Like, in the original, in the condition of the permanent permit, Rosalinds would be noticed

899
01:03:54,380 --> 01:03:55,100
from the right order.

900
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,440
All of that, yes, I was just getting ready to address that.

901
01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:05,500
We don't have a nursing requirement in every land use application, because we don't need

902
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:05,880
one.

903
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:07,900
It is all governed by state law.

904
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:13,780
If we don't notice our applications in accordance with what the state tells us that we have to do,

905
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:21,320
then it's a fatal flaw. Essentially, we have to read notice that we start over again.

906
01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:32,220
So we do have a table of noticing requirements and it would be akin to recodifying the state code

907
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:37,880
in many ways to take all of their requirements and put them in all of our requirements and at that point

908
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:43,220
it's just to click it is. So, there are just certain processes that are going to be governed

909
01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:46,880
by 10, 20, Title 10, 20, and noticing is going to be one of them.

910
01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:57,960
I would like to address quickly is the adoption of the approved drawings and specifications,

911
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:13,190
which is actually the reference with regards to the adopted transportation engineering standards.

912
01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:17,970
First of all, immigration Canyon doesn't need to have adopted engineering standards.

913
01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:27,350
And the reason that this is a broad term is that it doesn't have anything to do with the geometry of any particular corridor or whatever.

914
01:05:27,350 --> 01:05:37,870
General engineering standards break down into the type of road, the type of construction,

915
01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:43,650
the way the plans are submitted, the form under which the plans are submitted, and there are,

916
01:05:43,650 --> 01:05:46,370
there are general guidelines for these.

917
01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:54,990
For example, under 14, 12, 0, 2, 0 of the immigration canyon code, it goes to say,

918
01:05:54,990 --> 01:05:59,690
know, and if there's no standards available, and for whatever reason, you're not using

919
01:05:59,690 --> 01:06:05,770
UDOT standards, which is actually most common, then you're going to comply with ash

920
01:06:05,770 --> 01:06:11,830
toast standards, which are the American Association of State Highways Transportation Officials.

921
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:20,590
So there's, it's not ambiguous, and it's not at all related in any way, shape or form, to any

922
01:06:20,590 --> 01:06:28,530
type of configuration. It is a, it's a measure for how thick the asphalt needs to be and

923
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:33,290
and how what the compaction needs to be for the road-based, that sort of thing.

924
01:06:34,610 --> 01:06:41,470
But conditionally uses overall. I think that conditionally uses are probably the most

925
01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:57,630
form of land use application that just maybe in the exist. Again, conditional uses are governed by state code and you'll notice the state code is very very short.

926
01:06:58,050 --> 01:07:05,730
And the reason for that is because conditional uses have been litigated to the point that you can actually distill the law

927
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:12,070
down to just a couple of paragraphs, which is that a conditional use is a permitted use

928
01:07:12,730 --> 01:07:15,910
but it's the kind of permitted use through which you can impose conditions.

929
01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:20,790
Provided that you can only impose conditions that

930
01:07:23,550 --> 01:07:24,950
to mitigate

931
01:07:25,710 --> 01:07:27,370
to reasonably mitigate

932
01:07:27,370 --> 01:07:29,970
the anticipated detrimental effect.

933
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:51,320
Ex of the proposed use. So, it's always going to be a very particular analysis when the conditional uses applications come in, and that is the threshold legal standard for conditional uses.

934
01:07:52,060 --> 01:08:12,600
Our ordinance, the proposed ordinance, for clarity, the planning commission feels strongly about making sure that we are clear, which they should, because we'll talk a lot more about how the plain language of the statute is absolutely critical for its enforcement.

935
01:08:13,460 --> 01:08:23,080
But the planning commission also feels strongly and I agree with them that the code should have enough information for a road map of

936
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:29,660
Okay, you know, I'm submitting my application. What comes next? One of the standards for that.

937
01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:37,040
amendments to what happens if I want to amend, how long is the conditional use permit valid?

938
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:44,600
Are there times when we can re-boke it? The answer to those questions are all set forth in as

939
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:55,520
simple language as we could describe it. And again, these ordinances, both ordinances,

940
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:03,040
But particularly the conditional use ordinance is very, very similar to most all other cities

941
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,580
conditional use ordinances.

942
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,200
Except to this to the extent we have added a little bit more detail.

943
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:14,600
Most of the bigger cities just leave it at the paragraph of you may submit a conditional

944
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,400
use application.

945
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,880
It's an administrative process, which means you don't get to say no.

946
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:32,180
But what you can do is impose conditions, provided they have a connection to a reasonable connection to a anticipated detrimental impact.

947
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:42,870
Does it go through a public hearing?

948
01:09:43,670 --> 01:09:44,770
Yes, yes.

949
01:09:44,770 --> 01:09:44,930
Yes, yes.

950
01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:45,910
I'm sorry.

951
01:09:46,270 --> 01:09:48,030
I should take a step back.

952
01:09:48,710 --> 01:09:51,030
Conditional use applications go to the Planning Commission.

953
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:57,790
and they, essentially, usually uses in subdivisions,

954
01:10:00,230 --> 01:10:01,730
are under the purview of the

955
01:10:01,730 --> 01:10:02,950
thority of the plant commission.

956
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:14,750
But they're permitted uses. It's not if they're

957
01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:20,770
property owners who are curious about what types of uses are allowed in their zone, in terms

958
01:10:20,770 --> 01:10:31,250
of neighboring properties, they will be they can view that right online within the art

959
01:10:31,250 --> 01:10:33,550
ordinance structure right on the table.

960
01:10:38,990 --> 01:10:45,190
I meant to and did not pull up the old ordinance, the sounds like on this one there would

961
01:10:45,190 --> 01:10:55,450
be more of a not quite apt apples, but if you do almost a red line from a person, can you

962
01:10:55,450 --> 01:10:57,750
census, but what will this change?

963
01:10:59,530 --> 01:11:06,810
It will eliminate a lot of margin for error in terms of the terms of the legal standards

964
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:13,230
and the determinations that, well, it will be very helpful for the terms of what the planning

965
01:11:13,230 --> 01:11:14,570
commission needs to determine.

966
01:11:15,230 --> 01:11:20,570
It will eliminate a lot of language that I, there was legally problematic.

967
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:24,670
It removes a lot of section of graffiti.

968
01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:29,670
It's just something to have anything to do with it.

969
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:36,430
But the challenge that we have with land use is that you have superferless language,

970
01:11:36,710 --> 01:11:41,510
or you have outdated language, and then someone's if it's an application, and you go through

971
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:46,730
the proper process, and they don't like it, and then suddenly on a pill, they're saying

972
01:11:46,730 --> 01:11:52,730
graffiti rights have been violated and some way of some form. It's just very important that

973
01:11:53,270 --> 01:12:00,290
land use regulations in particular are tight, they're clear, they're brief, to the extent

974
01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:08,610
that they can be and that is the way to maintain efficiency and compliance and get and express

975
01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:10,570
the facilities legislative intent.

976
01:12:10,570 --> 01:12:16,930
And then the other question I've had, and I, again, I'm putting it into my non-legal

977
01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:23,650
but trying to understand at my, you were talking about engineering standards, and the reason

978
01:12:23,650 --> 01:12:29,610
that it's not e, you know, I, you know, thought that would better work boilerplate to just say

979
01:12:29,610 --> 01:12:37,150
that, is that that way, you know, have to change a reordance if you change, yes, man, that's exactly

980
01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:37,470
right.

981
01:12:37,470 --> 01:12:43,770
Well, and also it depends on what road we're talking, there's going to be different standards for different types of roads.

982
01:12:45,170 --> 01:12:48,710
Highways are going to be different than, you know, class ABC roads.

983
01:12:50,530 --> 01:13:02,670
You're going to submit, you know, theoretically, and the engineers can speak to this better than I, but it's, you know, theoretically, you're going to need to submit things in a different format, or the drawings we're going to need to be in a different format.

984
01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:06,450
and they otherwise would be on a different type of construction.

985
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:12,910
So it's whatever the relevant engineering standards are for that application.

986
01:13:13,230 --> 01:13:15,350
Yes, that's exactly right.

987
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:17,230
Okay, thanks.

988
01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:17,890
Sure.

989
01:13:18,570 --> 01:13:23,070
That's that similar to that, but as far as the approval process goes proposed,

990
01:13:23,210 --> 01:13:27,490
psych development plan does not put a serious threat to the safety of occupants of residents

991
01:13:27,490 --> 01:13:31,570
in the vicinity, fire, geological, soil, soil,

992
01:13:31,570 --> 01:13:39,510
Is there a criteria and applied to that that is what is that criteria to prevent what is a hazard?

993
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:44,830
Indeed, Epcos does do a pretty good job of going through that.

994
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:54,830
However, again, because we're in a little bit of a different arena than subdivisions, for example,

995
01:13:54,830 --> 01:14:21,830
Um, provided that we are requesting that information and evaluating that information in anticipation of, of, of, in reasonable anticipation of a detrimental impact that we made identified and we see this with traffic actually pretty often on conditional uses where it's absolutely permissible to ask the applicant for an additional traffic study, for example, or

996
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:32,830
You know, safety guidelines or, and that's exactly how we end up making the determination of which conditions to impose.

997
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:42,930
You know, maybe there's a standard out there that's going to, you know, really alleviate a big traffic concern that becomes part of the conditional use.

998
01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:52,510
that's when we play. So you said the condition you spent, you cannot deny it, okay, or you can.

999
01:14:53,870 --> 01:14:59,210
If they reply, you can give them uses their own condition.

1000
01:15:03,480 --> 01:15:25,280
So, so the way that it works from the 30,000 foot level is that a conditional use application is submitted, the same as a permitted use application. And there's a cursory review of, you know, the kind of the MSD?

1001
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:26,820
Yes, man. That's right.

1002
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:31,440
So then, then it goes directed to write in relation to if they build.

1003
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,660
Well, if provided that the application is, you know,

1004
01:15:35,780 --> 01:15:39,520
contains everything that we've asked for in the application is in terms of a form.

1005
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:43,680
I mean, if it's missing signatures, if it's missing property ownership information,

1006
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,840
if it's missing, you know, what we need in the application, then, no, right off the bat.

1007
01:15:49,060 --> 01:15:52,880
They're what the MSD or the director will say is, this is incomplete.

1008
01:15:52,880 --> 01:16:00,800
we can't accept this and they'll send it back and then they'll resubmit and then yes from there

1009
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:08,140
they take that information, they go to the planning commission, after staff has done a very, very thorough review

1010
01:16:08,140 --> 01:16:14,160
and then the staff pre-is their staff report, hopefully they've covered everything that

1011
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:21,820
they anticipate that the planning commission would have concerns with and then use it down

1012
01:16:21,820 --> 01:16:27,480
with the planning commission and and and have the have the exchange essentially the developer

1013
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:33,160
presents in the planning commission can answer get their questions answer and then does and I'm

1014
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:41,480
I'm curious because I'm thinking of an example. So after the planning commission seems that

1015
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:47,140
do they deny or I mean they can approve it without it coming to the council. Yes ma'am.

1016
01:16:47,140 --> 01:16:52,020
that's right and what they'll do is it'll again it will look like you know we're

1017
01:16:52,020 --> 01:16:56,740
going to prove application blank blank blank in accordance with the following

1018
01:16:56,740 --> 01:16:59,560
conditions and then they read off those conditions.

1019
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,820
Well I don't know but it's been that way.

1020
01:17:04,540 --> 01:17:07,280
Yes that that doesn't change. No man that's right.

1021
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:12,700
That's been that way. Well I'm just curious because there's like and I'm just as a

1022
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:18,220
there was, there's going to do all of them and I think that, that it was a purge and I

1023
01:17:18,220 --> 01:17:23,200
in my mind of thinking, how did that happen? So, at the end of, you know, I mean, then I

1024
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:30,140
had no knowledge of any of it. It's an application. It's a very, the standard to deny a

1025
01:17:30,140 --> 01:17:39,160
conditional use application. You're essentially saying, you have an impact that's so

1026
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:47,700
incremental that there's no condition that can mitigate it. Period. It's a high legal standard

1027
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:54,800
because that's a very extraordinary situation, particularly as engineering standards

1028
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:09,140
continue to develop and evolve and we have more and more tools rather than not, it's very

1029
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:16,700
that a land use authorities decision to approve or deny conditional use is an administrative

1030
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:26,760
land use decision when they say that what they mean is the marching orders are approval

1031
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:35,100
unless it is really crazy like a circumstance that I can't even think of. There there there have been

1032
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:37,480
Certain circumstances that have been successful,

1033
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,460
but I, they're very rare.

1034
01:18:42,980 --> 01:18:45,280
I'm just, is there, is there an opportunity

1035
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,580
to be copies on the staff report or something like that?

1036
01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:50,520
Just so there's, oh, absolutely.

1037
01:18:50,820 --> 01:18:51,300
Not much.

1038
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:55,120
It's a matter of fact that I was very thrilled.

1039
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:58,140
The mayor has provided me with permission

1040
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,800
to provide the council with land use training.

1041
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:10,760
And I think that you will benefit from that greatly in terms of the ordinances that we're bringing you.

1042
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,140
Just having that kind of baseline, what are we talking about?

1043
01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:21,000
What are we in the municipal governance kind of realm?

1044
01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:24,100
I think that that will be really, really helpful.

1045
01:19:24,260 --> 01:19:26,700
And you'll be able to recognize right off the bat.

1046
01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:33,140
kind of what area we're in after I'm able to set that for it.

1047
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,740
Because in general, you don't want elected people, whether they're your neighbors or

1048
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:45,000
professional politicians, making the decisions about what you kind of.

1049
01:19:45,020 --> 01:19:46,520
That's why it goes through administrative.

1050
01:19:47,620 --> 01:19:51,780
And the planning commission is essentially administrative, right?

1051
01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:59,120
I mean, in terms of the administrative processes, yes.

1052
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,340
Okay, now I will really look forward to getting more training books.

1053
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,660
Yeah, I will bore you all to tears.

1054
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,240
It's my favorite topic.

1055
01:20:08,140 --> 01:20:09,260
One final.

1056
01:20:10,020 --> 01:20:10,780
It's like that.

1057
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:11,740
One thing.

1058
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,060
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if there's a code section that allows conditional use,

1059
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:20,920
it's in there to provide the applicant a way to make it happen.

1060
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:29,520
And so this is a way to describe what that conditional use process works like, and it's a case of a code that is offered by the facility.

1061
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:30,580
Yes, sir.

1062
01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:32,480
What you'll have is prison.

1063
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,580
You'll have a list of permitted and conditional uses.

1064
01:20:36,980 --> 01:20:44,600
And then at the end of the table, you'll essentially say, if it's not a permitted or conditional use, then it's prohibited under the zone.

1065
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,840
So, and then kind of there's your list.

1066
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,280
And you make that determination based on if it's permitted use.

1067
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,880
It's, okay, this is the real purpose of the zone,

1068
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:58,900
you know, like single family residents, for example.

1069
01:21:00,340 --> 01:21:03,160
But you know, let's say you get a use like a,

1070
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,000
thank you.

1071
01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:09,900
Or it's something that would require parking

1072
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:12,060
in a more residential area,

1073
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:13,360
or something along those lines,

1074
01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:20,480
You'll see that as a conditional use and then through those conditions is the way that you mitigate

1075
01:21:21,020 --> 01:21:21,540
the

1076
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:29,160
Not not just detrimental all the time, but you know, the the effects the impact of the development

1077
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,660
If I can jump in really quick, Robert's question in your answer, I think it's important because the council still has

1078
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:43,820
Control over initially use through the code through zoning. That's right. The general plan and so you have you know

1079
01:21:43,820 --> 01:21:50,540
that fraud authority to go, once you put that policy in place, then the conditional use

1080
01:21:50,540 --> 01:21:53,760
through the plan commission is what and ask that.

1081
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,880
So you do still have input and control.

1082
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,200
That's a, well put.

1083
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:02,210
Okay.

1084
01:22:02,430 --> 01:22:03,850
Any other discussion question?

1085
01:22:04,190 --> 01:22:04,610
Just one more.

1086
01:22:04,690 --> 01:22:07,410
Does the planning commission do they go through a training process?

1087
01:22:07,850 --> 01:22:08,530
Oh, yes, ma'am.

1088
01:22:08,530 --> 01:22:18,890
So we have gone through a ton of training in the last G's, since Thanksgiving really, and

1089
01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:21,410
they're phenomenal, what can I tell you?

1090
01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:25,270
They're the best plant and commission in the state of Utah for hands down.

1091
01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:29,790
So, no, they're absolutely amazing.

1092
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:40,060
But I really think that I think you would benefit greatly from just I won't keep you all night to find

1093
01:22:40,060 --> 01:22:44,380
just schedule an hour and we can kind of get some fundamentals in place.

1094
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:49,980
I think because I also think that that will be helpful on other city business as well.

1095
01:22:49,980 --> 01:22:54,420
We'll do that and we'll do it an hour before our meeting and some of your brain pizza.

1096
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:56,560
Okay.

1097
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:57,720
Thank you sir.

1098
01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:59,200
Any other questions?

1099
01:22:59,620 --> 01:23:00,580
I don't really think that's a good one.

1100
01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:04,640
Somebody like to make a motion for us.

1101
01:23:08,230 --> 01:23:09,370
That's my night.

1102
01:23:10,770 --> 01:23:12,290
You look so well.

1103
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:20,130
I move that we both approve ordinance.

1104
01:23:20,130 --> 01:23:33,430
This is 2026-0-08, which repeals and then replaces kind of 19.84 of the Immigration Canyon Road, and it just reduces.

1105
01:23:35,070 --> 01:23:35,650
Second.

1106
01:23:37,820 --> 01:23:38,540
Can you just question?

1107
01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:39,520
Let's do it.

1108
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:40,640
Let's do it.

1109
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:40,920
Okay.

1110
01:23:45,500 --> 01:23:46,460
With your own eye.

1111
01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:51,210
Graham's eye.

1112
01:23:52,250 --> 01:23:53,330
Harris eye.

1113
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:54,430
Fox eye.

1114
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Thank you.

1115
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,220
Thank you.

1116
01:23:58,540 --> 01:23:59,020
Thank you.

1117
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:08,300
Okay, I remember C is discussion, the casual action regarding fuels reduction along the main immigration

1118
01:24:08,300 --> 01:24:11,320
Ken and Council member Paris.

1119
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:20,500
Okay, I'll try to keep this brief as I can because I did send out a little information via an email.

1120
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:24,980
The four, you know, just as background,

1121
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,960
a little over 85% of cloud-line fires, particularly

1122
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:43,060
brush fires, start within half a mile of a road and of that 85%, about 70% of them start

1123
01:24:43,060 --> 01:24:53,060
along roads directly from vehicles either in changing, dragging that somebody wasn't aware of,

1124
01:24:53,060 --> 01:24:58,600
gasoline leaking, that's probably less than a hot muffler if somebody pulls over to

1125
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:08,260
park, there's all kinds of ways. One of the recommended best practices is to trim back

1126
01:25:08,260 --> 01:25:14,120
Russian grass along side road, then anybody's been up here in Immigration Oaks and the last week

1127
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,560
they've done that, they have a time where from three to four feet, script, or they've

1128
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,580
mode the grasses.

1129
01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:27,340
And this does number things that makes it less likely that

1130
01:25:27,340 --> 01:25:34,200
you know grass will be, you know, if the car pulls over to park, hop and offload or something,

1131
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,740
that the grass will be touching, and also if a fire does start to reduce this blame

1132
01:25:38,740 --> 01:25:47,900
heights and gives firefighters more time, significantly more time to fight a fire.

1133
01:25:51,340 --> 01:26:01,620
And so, you know, I actually have, I am going to propose that we do this in terms of what

1134
01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:02,480
costs.

1135
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,280
It kind of depends on how we, I don't know whether this is something we have to ask

1136
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:16,760
the county to do. Immigration Oaks had about five and a half miles of road treated in this

1137
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:21,140
manner and it was a little over six thousand dollars. They did it in four days.

1138
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:33,680
And by hand, they did it, by hand, with weed whackers, yeah, and the string weed whackers

1139
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:39,200
are actually more recommended than some of the more industrial rush hogs, because they

1140
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,560
are less likely to cause a fire while you're doing it.

1141
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:47,500
I mean, that has happened, they recommend that you do it in early morning or late evening.

1142
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:53,900
You know, if you're using more industrial equipment, you go to make sure you have spark arrestors,

1143
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:59,340
you've got to be prepared to come up any sparks or planes.

1144
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,740
Let me ask a question, Council Member Hawks.

1145
01:27:03,460 --> 01:27:10,560
We had a conversation discussion in the past about someone, a couple of works that wanted

1146
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:18,800
just spray, we'd tell her on the side of the road, on this grass and we said no because we

1147
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:25,620
don't want that to get into the immigration can of stream. So is there a budget to do that

1148
01:27:25,620 --> 01:27:32,260
that we could use to cut the weeds? So that was that came from County and County does that every

1149
01:27:32,260 --> 01:27:40,140
year and the reason why we really was treated as particularly carefully because along the main

1150
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:41,540
and you already have a lot of wells.

1151
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:44,660
And so each one of those wells is like well done.

1152
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,320
There's a well protection zone on each property.

1153
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,200
And so doing that, it could compromise somebody's well.

1154
01:27:51,300 --> 01:27:52,520
That's well as the water.

1155
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,820
So, and it was also the material they were using to spray.

1156
01:28:00,170 --> 01:28:02,950
Do you think there's someone in the county that can ask to do this?

1157
01:28:03,370 --> 01:28:05,470
We can, yes, I have a contact.

1158
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:07,130
So I can reach out.

1159
01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:07,610
I want you.

1160
01:28:08,230 --> 01:28:08,790
Thank you.

1161
01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:12,350
to do what give it a weed serve?

1162
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:14,790
No, to use that budget to weed black.

1163
01:28:15,010 --> 01:28:15,630
Thanks for those.

1164
01:28:18,140 --> 01:28:23,140
You know, my concern is that how long will this take

1165
01:28:23,140 --> 01:28:25,460
rate that height of fire season right now?

1166
01:28:26,460 --> 01:28:28,520
When the wild land crews are up here doing the brush

1167
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,740
chipping, they said they had to be actually

1168
01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:34,240
careful in place, because there was so much

1169
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,720
long grass, long side of the roads, where people had put

1170
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:42,340
their brush that they felt like they were creating a risk, the other thing that they pointed

1171
01:28:42,340 --> 01:28:48,780
out is an all-one of the emergency barriers that are really called grass coming up inside

1172
01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:53,800
of the barriers along the road. And in a lot of places, the grass is taller than the Jersey

1173
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,980
area itself. They said that should really go.

1174
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,000
Has anyone come to an emergency camp for the reverse?

1175
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:06,840
I have not because I didn't know whether, you know, I'm not even sure we have to. We just

1176
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:12,920
we want to stun, do we have to use the county, or if we have, I have at least two private

1177
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:24,880
companies that, you know, would have interest in this, and you know, would it be, would it cost us more to get it to make? I don't know.

1178
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:31,000
So I just had this issue with another municipality, they had an area that identified as a fire risk,

1179
01:29:31,180 --> 01:29:35,860
and the county came out within the weekend and trimmed it down. So I think making the contact

1180
01:29:35,860 --> 01:29:40,800
the county would be the grant first step. If there's not enough in the county's budget,

1181
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:49,660
we would have to issue an RFP. It was over, I think, 10,000. But we can get that done recently quickly.

1182
01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:52,720
I mean, it might be the same crew that we need to do.

1183
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:57,820
In the south of the Mississippi area, there is a crew that does this, and then train to

1184
01:29:57,820 --> 01:29:59,980
do it, okay. So I'm a thinker.

1185
01:30:06,020 --> 01:30:15,180
I'm happy to do anything I can to help facilitate this mental cause, you know, explain what needs to get done.

1186
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:24,000
So if I can quickly call it, Maryfield had it trimmed, the first three feet. I'm not sure who did it.

1187
01:30:24,180 --> 01:30:25,240
It would have been, of course.

1188
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:26,580
So county option.

1189
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:29,960
Okay. Well, they probably have to remember the motors to do so.

1190
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:36,280
Yeah. Well, yeah, it was probably a public board.

1191
01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:39,380
Yeah. But it looks like a perfect swath. I don't think it was hand.

1192
01:30:39,660 --> 01:30:40,060
Okay.

1193
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,180
I wasn't looking at it with the, with the per, with the per, with the per.

1194
01:30:44,180 --> 01:30:45,660
Well, I don't know what I just noticed.

1195
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:52,400
Well, because we had a situation on the main road that dealt with going worse.

1196
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:59,660
So I do have the main context for that as well as we so I'm just saying I think the best option is to go to public works

1197
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:05,280
Yeah

1198
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,100
decision here. Is this a decision action?

1199
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:26,160
I don't think so.

1200
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:27,300
I don't think so.

1201
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:27,560
Yeah.

1202
01:31:28,860 --> 01:31:29,160
Okay.

1203
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:31,220
Something we would like to do.

1204
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,780
So what can you say to me?

1205
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:34,680
Okay.

1206
01:31:35,220 --> 01:31:36,540
I'd like to move on.

1207
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,520
Item number D protocol for using code red.

1208
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:41,540
Oh.

1209
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:42,740
That's the rarest.

1210
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:43,760
Yeah.

1211
01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:45,960
I wanted to talk about this.

1212
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,460
You know, when code red would be established,

1213
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:49,840
or when we first started using it,

1214
01:31:49,940 --> 01:31:52,220
I think every council member was supposed to get

1215
01:31:53,260 --> 01:31:53,820
screen.

1216
01:31:57,420 --> 01:32:03,320
You know, this, this, it really got highlighted when we have the problem with the

1217
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,920
everything, but the university fire.

1218
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,100
Some people were out of town. I was getting calls from

1219
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:19,640
emergency management, but I was unable to do anything. David and Jennifer did both respond

1220
01:32:20,380 --> 01:32:24,860
after a little while, but it made me realize we have to have some redundancy.

1221
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:31,640
And this was, you know, they made comments about this at our emergency management meeting.

1222
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,060
For, you know, the table complex, or size.

1223
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,780
And I just, I wanted to push this a little bit farther forward,

1224
01:32:39,820 --> 01:32:44,520
because I think it's important that there's some redundancy that we all have training.

1225
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,660
I know it's hard for you.

1226
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,560
A lot of times I was saying, oh, I want this set out.

1227
01:32:51,820 --> 01:32:52,460
And that's like a test.

1228
01:32:54,900 --> 01:33:00,080
Obviously, David, Mayor Brings has to approve something

1229
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,740
that it's the only way that we have for immediate communication.

1230
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:07,240
And I feel like it's really not fair for me.

1231
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,540
To say, hey, you do this.

1232
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,720
I mean, I'm treating you like an administrative person.

1233
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:16,040
when I should be able to just do myself and not have to bother somebody else.

1234
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,720
But I do, in terms of safety, we have to have some redundancy.

1235
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,000
So, if that were done to see what would be David, it wouldn't fall on you.

1236
01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:30,080
Just so you know, so the protocol and it's we already have a policy in place

1237
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,180
and it's a chain of command for emergency, yes.

1238
01:33:33,620 --> 01:33:37,640
But in terms of, you know, David can tell me or anybody.

1239
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:43,740
So it goes through the emergency service provider so it goes down the chain of care.

1240
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:49,080
So whether it's emergency, the communication will still be approved by David.

1241
01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:54,480
So whether I write it or it prepared, I always have a second set of eyes on it.

1242
01:33:56,440 --> 01:34:02,640
But I think we need to have some redundancy but that would be David being trained on it or

1243
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,300
and Dawn, because she's the other change man.

1244
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:07,360
So that's how it would work.

1245
01:34:09,260 --> 01:34:11,420
In terms of other users besides emergency,

1246
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,200
when code read was, and first, when we first adopted,

1247
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,740
and now we don't use code resist,

1248
01:34:17,980 --> 01:34:20,420
they're company, but when it first adopted,

1249
01:34:20,540 --> 01:34:22,740
everybody was supposed to have access to it.

1250
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,040
As long as you're a change.

1251
01:34:24,580 --> 01:34:26,120
Yeah, but, and that's what I'm saying.

1252
01:34:26,380 --> 01:34:26,820
I can't wait.

1253
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,140
But it still does go through the chain of command.

1254
01:34:29,660 --> 01:34:32,580
For an emergency, I think it's really important

1255
01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:38,540
that we do follow. I mean, we've got a policy in place now. If we want to make changes to that,

1256
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:44,740
we're going to review that policy and update it as need be. But I do think whoever sent it out,

1257
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:50,980
if communication needs to be concise, it needs to be. There's a certain way to do it,

1258
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:59,480
it has to be identified. It's not just information. It's done a certain way. That makes sense.

1259
01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:10,380
So I do think the communication is to be, whoever's doing it, that you follow the same type of kind of right if you present it, what needs to be included,

1260
01:35:12,740 --> 01:35:15,640
but as far as you've done to see it, do you think?

1261
01:35:16,020 --> 01:35:17,340
I mean, David, have an information.

1262
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:24,330
I think we ought to try that for a while and see if that works.

1263
01:35:25,630 --> 01:35:26,630
I need to be trying now.

1264
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:28,190
Absolutely.

1265
01:35:28,930 --> 01:35:29,130
Okay.

1266
01:35:32,750 --> 01:35:37,610
I see no reason for it's every module on the left, they write that.

1267
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:47,640
Let's do a test on the program, because last year in May, I was admitted in my information

1268
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:54,560
and when that fire happened at the U, I didn't get notification, Joe was in Missouri,

1269
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,700
and he called me, he was like, what's the test on the fire?

1270
01:35:56,700 --> 01:36:01,300
like I've no idea, I don't know, do you guys ask the code right now?

1271
01:36:02,660 --> 01:36:06,060
You know, there were a few people that described something similar.

1272
01:36:06,580 --> 01:36:10,120
They had to create a new account, and I think,

1273
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,240
I don't know, did some people get dropped or something like that?

1274
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,260
There was to a new provider, I don't know.

1275
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:18,200
So, what I would have extended to me,

1276
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:26,140
the transition from files got compromised with the breach,

1277
01:36:26,140 --> 01:36:35,420
I believe and so they were able to go back to 2025 and whatever that list was is what got transitioned through to a crisis 24

1278
01:36:35,420 --> 01:36:45,580
So I have some marketing material that I'd like to push through email and a postcard and I'm just going to talk about that

1279
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:53,180
But I do think so according that we get that information also people sign up because not only the what those that signed up that they didn't get it

1280
01:36:53,180 --> 01:36:59,040
So we've been priming in 2020, but people that have moved in and out also need to know

1281
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,500
that that's the mode of communication.

1282
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:07,240
So we need a push, we'll just push a push card, and you know.

1283
01:37:11,170 --> 01:37:12,550
We have other opinions,

1284
01:37:15,260 --> 01:37:18,860
I'd just like to see the policies, and I know more about it, I always

1285
01:37:18,860 --> 01:37:23,760
have to think more about it, I don't see it better, just as a general practice on there.

1286
01:37:27,070 --> 01:37:29,970
I'm not sure I'm the best person to do this, but I...

1287
01:37:31,110 --> 01:37:39,770
I think having more people involved in justice programs. The longer the chamber commander's done, the more the do, the better. Do you know?

1288
01:37:40,210 --> 01:37:47,970
No, but should have been there, but it's the same thing. It's very easy to do.

1289
01:37:58,730 --> 01:38:01,710
Well, I've already said, but I would like to do.

1290
01:38:05,910 --> 01:38:08,750
Um, I'm in favor of having a salt drink.

1291
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,400
I was in favor of trying, I don't think it would be about idea.

1292
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,800
I do feel like when an L.S. might root out.

1293
01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:21,840
I don't know what it is.

1294
01:38:23,690 --> 01:38:25,470
Can I kind of make a note on that?

1295
01:38:25,730 --> 01:38:27,310
Because I felt a different experience.

1296
01:38:27,550 --> 01:38:30,950
I felt like, so once there was never done,

1297
01:38:31,070 --> 01:38:33,710
if I could change command, it was like,

1298
01:38:33,710 --> 01:38:39,510
who's in charge? Does that make sense? So they didn't have our accurate chain of command.

1299
01:38:40,090 --> 01:38:43,830
They didn't have the information. So how they had that? They want to go through the proper

1300
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:51,090
channels. So really, because we can, generally, so that it would have gone through the chain of

1301
01:38:51,090 --> 01:38:56,230
command. That didn't happen. Even after the chain of command established, there were things

1302
01:38:56,230 --> 01:39:02,430
that were asked if we'd fallen up on it. And I said, have you, I don't send anything out on us,

1303
01:39:02,430 --> 01:39:03,570
that was in the chain of command.

1304
01:39:03,950 --> 01:39:05,310
That was like, oh, okay.

1305
01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:06,950
So just, we could do that.

1306
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:08,650
I think we need to remind each other.

1307
01:39:09,070 --> 01:39:10,550
Whether we're trained on it or not,

1308
01:39:10,690 --> 01:39:13,610
it was still, whoever's writing it has to have it right

1309
01:39:13,610 --> 01:39:15,550
or can't believe it, it still goes to that chain of command.

1310
01:39:15,950 --> 01:39:17,130
It doesn't give you authority to be

1311
01:39:17,130 --> 01:39:20,050
to be trained on it just to work it out,

1312
01:39:20,270 --> 01:39:22,150
unless you've identified that.

1313
01:39:22,150 --> 01:39:24,250
So whatever happens, whatever type of emergency,

1314
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:27,790
we need to identify who's in charge and follow that.

1315
01:39:28,330 --> 01:39:29,930
That would have to be a good one on that.

1316
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:39,990
That's true. I all I know is when they called me, they said we have been trying to get in touch with you and with Mayor Browns

1317
01:39:40,610 --> 01:39:49,950
I have called him right then and I think I have been in minutes. I have been in contact with them since the very beginning.

1318
01:39:49,950 --> 01:40:01,950
Okay, that's not what I was told, but anyway, and I spoke to you after you find when you called me, it was an hour and a half after they have had me.

1319
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:16,790
So, I don't want to get into that. I'm also referring to use a code read because we use it as community information, not the emergency aspect, but I fully agree that there needs to be a very defined change of command and also redundancy.

1320
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:22,130
And that's why there's, you know, mayor, deputy mayor, that's also why there's, you know,

1321
01:40:22,290 --> 01:40:29,770
involves police and fire in there's, you know, and, you know, very defined, instead of rules

1322
01:40:29,770 --> 01:40:33,930
that they follow, but I'm also talking about code read for informational purposes.

1323
01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:36,630
When we do the community information text.

1324
01:40:38,370 --> 01:40:39,370
Uh, where are you done?

1325
01:40:39,550 --> 01:40:40,510
I had some time.

1326
01:40:40,570 --> 01:40:46,370
So, I, I, I, I feel strongly that there should be a little bit more redundancy with that

1327
01:40:46,370 --> 01:40:49,370
so that you don't have to do it all.

1328
01:40:49,710 --> 01:40:53,230
Well, that's the role I took on when I

1329
01:40:53,230 --> 01:40:54,970
wrote the communication, so it's just not.

1330
01:40:54,970 --> 01:40:59,270
Yeah, and I know that oftentimes I've asked about things,

1331
01:40:59,490 --> 01:41:02,370
and it's been quite some time before it actually happens.

1332
01:41:02,810 --> 01:41:05,930
And so, others of us should be able to take that burden on.

1333
01:41:10,110 --> 01:41:11,410
So, it's a lot of experience.

1334
01:41:12,130 --> 01:41:13,030
Thank you, it is.

1335
01:41:13,050 --> 01:41:15,250
So, just a couple of points of information.

1336
01:41:15,630 --> 01:41:18,330
It sounds like there is some consensus among the council.

1337
01:41:18,330 --> 01:41:28,530
And so I think what we could use is a motion for what the council wants to happen, whether that's training or provision to policy.

1338
01:41:28,930 --> 01:41:42,450
Just for your information, the policy on the use of the system reads that the township will have the ability to issue alerts on behalf of law enforcement, fire service, public services, emergency medical services, and other collaborative organizations.

1339
01:41:42,450 --> 01:41:47,250
However, if a non-emergency public announcement is needed, the request must follow certain

1340
01:41:47,250 --> 01:41:51,810
guidelines, specifically the notice must be submitted in writing and approved by the authorized

1341
01:41:51,810 --> 01:41:56,750
user, which is the mayor first and then Council members that the mayor's unable to

1342
01:41:56,750 --> 01:42:02,790
specifically announce, but must be submitted in writing for a period of 48 hours in advance.

1343
01:42:03,190 --> 01:42:07,870
That's the policy as it exists. The Council can change that for any other portion.

1344
01:42:07,870 --> 01:42:10,950
That's very non-emergency issue, correct.

1345
01:42:13,490 --> 01:42:16,570
Something that, as a potential,

1346
01:42:18,010 --> 01:42:25,050
public benefit slash emergency pay attention to.

1347
01:42:25,150 --> 01:42:27,270
We can send one out now without flooding.

1348
01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:27,870
That's right.

1349
01:42:28,690 --> 01:42:29,370
Watch your blood.

1350
01:42:29,470 --> 01:42:33,730
I'm going to be referring to this going to be a marathon tomorrow.

1351
01:42:34,770 --> 01:42:36,850
And the uphill thing of the road is going to be closed.

1352
01:42:36,850 --> 01:42:38,890
I don't know what I mean.

1353
01:42:38,890 --> 01:42:39,650
I don't know what I mean.

1354
01:42:40,210 --> 01:42:40,910
I don't know what I mean.

1355
01:42:41,010 --> 01:42:41,770
I don't know what I mean.

1356
01:42:41,770 --> 01:42:42,270
I don't know what I mean.

1357
01:42:42,670 --> 01:42:42,930
I don't know what I mean.

1358
01:42:44,690 --> 01:42:49,170
Or, you know, I said that, I had a 10% out of a massive thing.

1359
01:42:49,250 --> 01:42:51,970
If you have a brush palette, it's not yet been done.

1360
01:42:52,190 --> 01:42:53,590
Please let us know.

1361
01:42:53,650 --> 01:42:57,130
I got 35 different emails about that.

1362
01:42:57,150 --> 01:42:58,570
It was a really useful thing.

1363
01:42:58,730 --> 01:43:01,070
I had never heard about this 40-an-hour thing.

1364
01:43:01,450 --> 01:43:03,070
They would have already been down the road.

1365
01:43:03,370 --> 01:43:04,950
But then, you know, they're not in the community.

1366
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:14,230
So, I'm not sure if I agree with that, but it feeds a 40-hour waiting period to send that information.

1367
01:43:16,350 --> 01:43:18,670
I would suggest that we take a look at it.

1368
01:43:18,850 --> 01:43:25,670
Because it is the most effective way that we have to do people, you know.

1369
01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:28,550
Just to convey information.

1370
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:34,730
And I do think that we used to be so close to the government, though, just in the back of it.

1371
01:43:35,210 --> 01:43:37,610
And I'm speaking of, like, my child's work.

1372
01:43:37,630 --> 01:43:44,470
In other cases, if too many are sent out, then there's a bombing effect where I don't want to open anything.

1373
01:43:45,190 --> 01:43:49,630
So, there's a balance between what is that, how it sends to some.

1374
01:43:49,630 --> 01:43:54,590
And I had some, it's totally fine to push a tax in that.

1375
01:43:54,670 --> 01:43:56,710
That is the easiest one about me.

1376
01:43:56,970 --> 01:44:00,530
But if you're asking for a call on it,

1377
01:44:00,890 --> 01:44:03,710
people tend to get a little bit nervous that it comes in as a call.

1378
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:06,970
So I think the way you want to push it,

1379
01:44:07,370 --> 01:44:08,750
or how often you want to push it,

1380
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:11,530
because just as a reminder,

1381
01:44:11,770 --> 01:44:15,770
the two things we had said about sex and emails,

1382
01:44:16,590 --> 01:44:17,570
and it was great.

1383
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:24,770
So that was the best way to get that approach done.

1384
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:29,710
But I have to say, always our gratins.

1385
01:44:30,110 --> 01:44:32,070
He knows that I have to know what it is to do.

1386
01:44:34,330 --> 01:44:35,430
I said, I don't know.

1387
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:36,310
Yeah.

1388
01:44:37,210 --> 01:44:38,210
That's good to hear.

1389
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:39,250
OK.

1390
01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:41,170
But we won't listen to that question.

1391
01:44:42,030 --> 01:44:42,230
Yeah.

1392
01:44:42,430 --> 01:44:44,150
So I didn't want to break this out.

1393
01:44:44,630 --> 01:44:46,110
I just learned to start conversation.

1394
01:44:46,610 --> 01:44:49,350
And I am not suggesting that we are not by anything

1395
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:52,170
to emerge and cease and death.

1396
01:44:52,770 --> 01:44:54,270
I love this thing.

1397
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,480
I don't know that we have a need of hope now.

1398
01:45:02,130 --> 01:45:13,670
I think that the majority of the council have the right to be trained, and another case, the stairs are the right to be.

1399
01:45:14,450 --> 01:45:16,050
This, do you train?

1400
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:24,780
Yeah, that's great. Thank you. Just one of these and should you send that volunteer to the chairman?

1401
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,060
I'd just like to read. Yeah, it's email already. Okay.

1402
01:45:32,910 --> 01:45:33,210
Okay.

1403
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:45,760
The traffic, no traffic miss analysis counts in the middle of the box.

1404
01:45:46,340 --> 01:45:51,260
Okay, so this is just, I wanted to give you back, I have made some contacts.

1405
01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:59,640
Just conversations, I have been talking to some of the engineers about accidents,

1406
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:07,520
in the last five to ten years, and there's a company that called fair pears and asked them

1407
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:13,920
for recommendations, and there's a company that will do its company nervous analysis,

1408
01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:21,280
and what they'll do is they do it, it's coupled with track accounts if you can't do one of the other.

1409
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:28,520
So it's a little bit of a redundant act of the engineers that engineers are studying to work with driving out,

1410
01:46:28,740 --> 01:46:31,340
that's where they're going to do it too.

1411
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,120
And the product is going to have to work with the project.

1412
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,560
I don't know.

1413
01:46:43,020 --> 01:46:50,620
I don't know what this technology does, is they also have a camera, they can do the counts.

1414
01:46:50,620 --> 01:46:59,080
and then they analyze it and then they do it there, there is analysis.

1415
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:05,500
So what that does is we determine that there is like a touch of rash or biking,

1416
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:09,480
someone who aren't targeting the bike, and I think that is a piece of emergency.

1417
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:10,920
Could we get a sound?

1418
01:47:13,140 --> 01:47:13,660
Yeah.

1419
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:16,160
I think I'd like to see that.

1420
01:47:16,780 --> 01:47:18,460
This sound like you're going to do it like this.

1421
01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:28,320
So with the test patient master plan, there is a crash analysis, that's it, it's not

1422
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:33,700
here, but it's not familiar with that analysis, and the test patients might get so long

1423
01:47:33,700 --> 01:47:34,500
through the process.

1424
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,340
So we don't have a draft, we'll look at it, but we may be able to pull that piece that they

1425
01:47:39,340 --> 01:47:40,380
already have done.

1426
01:47:40,380 --> 01:47:44,400
If you see that, if you see something, it's easier to work with.

1427
01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:49,740
What even a thought would be, if there's, if they are getting a lot in the mouth,

1428
01:47:49,980 --> 01:47:53,520
we have traffic jam, if we can supplement and have that.

1429
01:47:53,540 --> 01:47:56,360
This was added up to that.

1430
01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:58,460
Only existing fraction data.

1431
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,200
So now I do enjoy looking and working with nothing.

1432
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,620
They're fully fractionated.

1433
01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:15,300
And you know that both of these people and they are willing to see the base and only that, you know, but they're not actually there.

1434
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:16,780
They're not numbers.

1435
01:48:17,580 --> 01:48:18,780
They're not in that direction.

1436
01:48:20,540 --> 01:48:22,380
But are they doing like there?

1437
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,100
Are they doing like there?

1438
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:23,860
Are they doing like there?

1439
01:48:23,860 --> 01:48:26,080
Or are they doing like there?

1440
01:48:26,780 --> 01:48:27,540
There are.

1441
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:29,120
Yes.

1442
01:48:29,620 --> 01:48:30,500
They're going to interact with you.

1443
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,840
And I don't know how that relates to your business.

1444
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:42,500
So if what they would do, they would just imagine to, so they instead of pulling up the line across the room, they too might be you.

1445
01:48:42,940 --> 01:48:48,180
So they took them to the end of the day, analyze in a different way, and that's the difference.

1446
01:48:48,660 --> 01:48:49,560
That's your miss.

1447
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:54,440
I think since the setup was actually, you know, we're going to get to the end of it.

1448
01:48:54,740 --> 01:48:58,320
Our little tip for the present piece was that the plan has done more progress.

1449
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:21,920
The next item on our agenda is planning commission appointments and as far as I know you have to be able to

1450
01:49:44,420 --> 01:49:57,600
I think it would be good to have an alternate number of ion information, and Claire, I don't

1451
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:03,300
I don't know whether it's possible to have a group or a panic relationship with anyone this is too consecutive

1452
01:50:03,300 --> 01:50:07,420
because the ultimate group of patients is that?

1453
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:08,200
That's the way.

1454
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,240
There may already be language to that advice of each other.

1455
01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:14,660
Usually there is.

1456
01:50:14,660 --> 01:50:17,280
Is that something we can accomplish in the next one?

1457
01:50:18,340 --> 01:50:18,940
I don't know.

1458
01:50:19,740 --> 01:50:20,140
Absolutely.

1459
01:50:20,580 --> 01:50:21,460
That leaves her.

1460
01:50:25,410 --> 01:50:27,390
Would you like to ask a question?

1461
01:50:27,390 --> 01:50:28,810
Thank you very much.

1462
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:29,850
Post.

1463
01:50:41,530 --> 01:50:43,390
Well, have I heard about this thing?

1464
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:45,890
We're dealing with the...

1465
01:50:45,890 --> 01:50:46,490
Let's talk.

1466
01:50:47,470 --> 01:50:48,870
I don't think so.

1467
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,000
I don't have anything to add.

1468
01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:55,280
Can I make a post?

1469
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:57,720
That would like a post.

1470
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:03,720
We went to a small cut to the tiny commission and David Lincoln as an ultimatum.

1471
01:51:08,980 --> 01:51:12,420
I think I can point them on that.

1472
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,340
I'd like to hear some more.

1473
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,280
So it is with the license consent of the council.

1474
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:24,520
So you can point the other way.

1475
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:27,620
You'll accept, Joe.

1476
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:28,920
Thank you.

1477
01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:40,900
Okay, I don't think so, okay, so we're going to take a deep, I'm just going to stress.

1478
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,900
So there are any, did you call those things up and then you can have a deep breath?

1479
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:52,140
I've read their actions, so I'm going to take a deep breath.

1480
01:51:53,620 --> 01:51:54,780
And I did me too.

1481
01:52:18,140 --> 01:52:23,680
Okay, um, help the Utah designation of dates.

1482
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,680
Councilman, I did not have a lot of dates for this.

1483
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:28,320
Thanks.

1484
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:29,980
See the desired standards.

1485
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,640
Design guidelines, council member box.

1486
01:53:00,980 --> 01:53:13,020
These are the guidelines we're going to give to and how we prioritize the improvements along

1487
01:53:13,020 --> 01:53:14,720
the road.

1488
01:53:14,940 --> 01:53:23,580
I have a general comment that it seems, and it seems to be a little bit cyclist.

1489
01:53:29,540 --> 01:53:34,240
I like it to say how we use this at the world.

1490
01:53:34,580 --> 01:53:38,000
I like it to say how we use this at the world.

1491
01:53:38,780 --> 01:53:41,400
I like to assume that it gets to be a teacher.

1492
01:53:43,260 --> 01:53:43,940
Is that the least?

1493
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:45,840
Yes, that's it.

1494
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:47,060
I think so.

1495
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,220
And maybe this is, I think, back a little bit.

1496
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,960
So, a lot of the, and we can move to the previous absolutely.

1497
01:53:53,960 --> 01:54:03,980
But a lot of the materials for the ground, as far as safety goes, it needs to be specified.

1498
01:54:04,620 --> 01:54:14,720
And that makes you feel cyclist heavy, but in the fact that we're not using the right story, so we're not using the right story.

1499
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,000
And I think there's a lot of others.

1500
01:54:20,420 --> 01:54:22,720
There's walkers and there's...

1501
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:24,740
Rollers, can you hear us?

1502
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:26,160
There's a little bit of garbage.

1503
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,480
We need to include, okay.

1504
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:30,680
But they use that section of the water.

1505
01:54:30,940 --> 01:54:31,300
Right.

1506
01:54:31,980 --> 01:54:32,980
That's more than science.

1507
01:54:35,940 --> 01:54:36,500
So do you.

1508
01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:36,840
Okay.

1509
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,300
So just go through and make sure it is.

1510
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,420
It's not cyclists center.

1511
01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:41,960
Okay.

1512
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,200
The

1513
01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:54,520
couple meetings go tamerly talk about the standards that use for cyclists and design.

1514
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,940
It's just one picture of the focus system of that initiative.

1515
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,220
It has the right way of noticing the snow.

1516
01:55:01,660 --> 01:55:02,340
But it's interesting.

1517
01:55:02,660 --> 01:55:05,660
Like afterstanders, all the centers throughout the meeting.

1518
01:55:06,220 --> 01:55:08,760
And I would like to part of this business with like engineers.

1519
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:10,160
Yeah, yeah.

1520
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:10,740
Yeah.

1521
01:55:10,740 --> 01:55:17,300
was going to be nice to just, I mean, I think it's free.

1522
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:26,880
I like the idea of having this but I want to further find the experts to this,

1523
01:55:26,980 --> 01:55:29,240
then we don't know what we mean.

1524
01:55:31,220 --> 01:55:38,600
So the intent as well is not just a standard as far as materials and where the statements

1525
01:55:40,300 --> 01:55:48,880
But also, this would not only go to, I'm thinking of this as a long trip, so we want to think,

1526
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:51,360
but I think there's definitely what we want this to be like.

1527
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,440
So these standards would cover that.

1528
01:55:53,660 --> 01:55:58,850
But it would also help in the back of the pipeline, or into it coming in.

1529
01:55:59,580 --> 01:56:03,560
If they're going to obtain it to four or three pieces,

1530
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:08,280
they would still have to follow these guidelines.

1531
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:16,240
So, whether it's signing into all the program, material, all of the things that we've got there when we start to act.

1532
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:21,180
That's the big question, is it, is it a computer lab, is it a comprehensive lab?

1533
01:56:22,140 --> 01:56:23,880
Well, that's, I mean, are we missing anything?

1534
01:56:24,500 --> 01:56:34,240
So, I just want to make note that the county has designed a construction guidelines that are part of the county's contract with design professionals.

1535
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:43,260
I wonder if we have a camera, there's a camera, check and see if some of that language ought

1536
01:56:43,260 --> 01:56:45,840
to be considered in this package.

1537
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:52,630
You do another thing this week?

1538
01:56:52,910 --> 01:56:58,230
It's a great work.

1539
01:56:58,570 --> 01:57:00,830
Yeah, this is a huge problem.

1540
01:57:01,210 --> 01:57:04,790
I did not make it on the way through, but we're pretty likely to understand this.

1541
01:57:06,170 --> 01:57:15,430
So one thing I think we could add, and I don't know, thoughts on this, but I'm on any of the

1542
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:20,950
lightest lightest issues that I'm going to occur in every season of lightest light.

1543
01:57:21,490 --> 01:57:28,750
I've seen it in, um, here, that your relatives should know when they're seeing their

1544
01:57:28,750 --> 01:57:29,310
generosity.

1545
01:57:30,210 --> 01:57:32,190
But yeah, further we can't notice it in the light.

1546
01:57:32,190 --> 01:57:39,230
So I don't know if that would help in some of the changing ways of the pet, as far as it's just a

1547
01:57:39,230 --> 01:57:44,670
robust or a lot of center so that you know you don't know me. I think everybody knows how

1548
01:57:44,670 --> 01:57:51,970
we're starting out there's a blind car and you have to hide the inside or you make some active car coming around that corner

1549
01:57:51,970 --> 01:57:57,110
because they crossed the lots of the line. So it just kind of can people in the lane.

1550
01:57:57,690 --> 01:58:05,800
So that, I think about those, there are measures, and there's anything that might be helpful, and they will get in.

1551
01:58:06,380 --> 01:58:06,780
Okay.

1552
01:58:09,390 --> 01:58:09,510
Okay.

1553
01:58:10,210 --> 01:58:12,730
And let's check against the kind of things.

1554
01:58:13,870 --> 01:58:16,170
We'll go for approval for this.

1555
01:58:17,370 --> 01:58:17,670
Okay.

1556
01:58:18,510 --> 01:58:18,910
Okay.

1557
01:58:18,990 --> 01:58:21,650
We need to get this approved really on our next meeting together.

1558
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:22,030
Absolutely.

1559
01:58:22,450 --> 01:58:25,590
So let's say, and if you can take some time, if there's something that's missing,

1560
01:58:25,750 --> 01:58:27,890
something you feel very strongly that you need to add.

1561
01:58:27,890 --> 01:58:38,910
I will copy Samrin, Cameron's got a copy of it, I don't know if we need it, please, I don't think so, yeah, it's not the great, yes.

1562
01:58:39,070 --> 01:58:42,290
Anybody else who think that with my nature? Okay,

1563
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,540
thank you.

1564
01:58:49,540 --> 01:58:49,960
Okay, thank you.

1565
01:58:50,500 --> 01:58:52,040
City Attorney updates,

1566
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,340
there's still going to be a lot of City Attorney going on.

1567
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,520
There has been, yeah.

1568
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,520
Okay, I think we're all, we all know what that is.

1569
01:59:04,980 --> 01:59:07,360
Council member reports myself,

1570
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,820
attending the July 8th MSD meeting.

1571
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:15,480
There was a representative from Salt Lake County

1572
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:19,640
giving a notice of termination of a Master in the local agreement

1573
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,920
between Salt Lake County and MSD.

1574
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:33,280
20 to 60 minutes of discussion and very concerning and I'll report more on that in the future.

1575
01:59:34,340 --> 01:59:38,160
I think that was the most consequential thing last week.

1576
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:48,920
We all are aware that the county wants to reduce funding to NSD and maybe we'll talk about

1577
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:55,800
at the same. There's two major things going on that will affect immigration candidates.

1578
01:59:56,220 --> 01:59:59,780
This is what my funding. I don't want to take it under. Take it.

1579
02:00:02,830 --> 02:00:08,850
You go full go for it. It's the same thing. So, the county wants to pull out of it. So, be certain.

1580
02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:15,570
And leave a hole there. So, this is something that was discussed at the county council level.

1581
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:18,910
And there's a critical doubt this is. And it's up concerned.

1582
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:26,790
Now, I think about why is the county shedding its responsibility to government?

1583
02:00:27,850 --> 02:00:30,230
But, you know, that's another discussion for another time.

1584
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:32,620
Okay.

1585
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:38,460
Council member with it is out, Council member Harris.

1586
02:00:39,340 --> 02:00:40,640
Oh, where do you come?

1587
02:00:40,820 --> 02:00:42,480
I think I have something to say.

1588
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:44,040
Oh, okay.

1589
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:49,280
Unified fire authority.

1590
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,280
We are in one of the low experiences.

1591
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:54,760
We just passed the budget last month.

1592
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,900
There's not a great deal.

1593
02:01:03,660 --> 02:01:04,340
I mean,

1594
02:01:10,110 --> 02:01:20,710
I have a third thing I know they weren't talking about making some modifications, and it sounded like things were imminent, but I haven't been able to learn anything.

1595
02:01:20,710 --> 02:01:27,370
I do have a meeting with my persuasive with fire, forestry, and state lands next week, so I hear anything else pass along.

1596
02:01:28,010 --> 02:01:32,890
So we've done everything that we're required to to apply, and so we're just waiting on.

1597
02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:34,750
We are sort of my stuff.

1598
02:01:34,990 --> 02:01:41,330
You know, as I mean, this is an oversimplification that essentially they keep pushing back the deadlines,

1599
02:01:42,270 --> 02:01:47,090
or they're going to start collecting money from a phoenix.

1600
02:01:47,090 --> 02:01:47,930
It's not a tax.

1601
02:01:48,090 --> 02:01:52,250
It's a phoenix from properties within the affected areas.

1602
02:01:52,250 --> 02:01:58,490
But they keep pushing back, not just that date, that things are going to be implemented,

1603
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:06,790
that they have yet to release the actual standards or how risked the home property

1604
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:09,090
artist can mitigate the virus.

1605
02:02:11,610 --> 02:02:17,210
And they kind of got a dark, I mean, even their website hasn't their own one thing.

1606
02:02:17,730 --> 02:02:21,870
So I am curious to see what's going to happen there.

1607
02:02:21,870 --> 02:02:29,250
And I put off inviting them to come to talk to the community because I don't think they have a great job to say, right?

1608
02:02:30,230 --> 02:02:32,070
This is still so much in flux.

1609
02:02:33,550 --> 02:02:37,690
The watershed plan, I don't have much to report.

1610
02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:42,630
I have reached out to Bob Thompson asking him, you know,

1611
02:02:42,990 --> 02:02:46,870
what a resident research concerns that we might not have a watershed plan.

1612
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:48,530
I don't think that's true.

1613
02:02:48,530 --> 02:02:53,430
If I can, he is not responded to me, yeah.

1614
02:02:53,490 --> 02:02:54,130
So,

1615
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:56,840
okay,

1616
02:02:59,650 --> 02:03:00,850
can't remember who I was.

1617
02:03:02,350 --> 02:03:04,310
I don't have an update.

1618
02:03:04,850 --> 02:03:06,450
There isn't a meeting this month.

1619
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:09,870
So, lots of more information on the week.

1620
02:03:10,730 --> 02:03:13,330
It just started out with it.

1621
02:03:13,590 --> 02:03:14,730
And there was one.

1622
02:03:16,210 --> 02:03:19,350
Please text an information that I'd like to add to the website

1623
02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:21,630
and everyone's okay with it.

1624
02:03:21,630 --> 02:03:30,970
It's wildfire insurance resources for residents, and there's a list of links, but this emergency had prepared for wildfire.

1625
02:03:31,470 --> 02:03:41,770
During emergency, when you evacuate, emergency plan, what to do after, most of them are those families, but it's a resource for residents.

1626
02:03:43,970 --> 02:03:47,290
Yes, that's what a nice thing is, if you're okay with that.

1627
02:03:48,810 --> 02:03:53,430
And then I will be standing out on CodeGread.

1628
02:03:53,690 --> 02:04:01,250
We always stand out the Wednesday prayer to a Saturday event,

1629
02:04:01,490 --> 02:04:04,250
which was American, the dozen news Americans on this planet

1630
02:04:04,250 --> 02:04:05,130
can in a Saturday.

1631
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:10,230
So Wednesday, there'll be the first notification as an information.

1632
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:12,910
And then the night before is the reminder.

1633
02:04:13,590 --> 02:04:16,970
So that'll go out tomorrow, which is the Wednesday before.

1634
02:04:16,970 --> 02:04:19,870
and then Friday evening.

1635
02:04:21,630 --> 02:04:22,450
And then...

1636
02:04:22,450 --> 02:04:24,610
Just the five to the event is on...

1637
02:04:24,610 --> 02:04:25,630
It's on Saturday.

1638
02:04:26,670 --> 02:04:27,130
It's a 24.

1639
02:04:28,850 --> 02:04:28,990
Okay.

1640
02:04:29,530 --> 02:04:29,990
So that Friday?

1641
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:30,530
Right.

1642
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:36,660
So the notifications will go out at Wednesday

1643
02:04:36,660 --> 02:04:37,780
and then I'll set it up.

1644
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:38,980
On Thursday or the remainder.

1645
02:04:39,540 --> 02:04:41,640
The reminder is that there is a...

1646
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:42,020
Yes.

1647
02:04:42,340 --> 02:04:43,020
The larger.

1648
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:44,480
That is.

1649
02:04:45,260 --> 02:04:46,980
The upper lane is...

1650
02:04:46,980 --> 02:04:47,460
The lower lane.

1651
02:04:48,060 --> 02:04:50,480
traffic from one time to one time?

1652
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:54,180
Um, it is, I don't know what time to look it up.

1653
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:55,460
I don't have that information for you.

1654
02:04:55,500 --> 02:04:59,820
But I think it's like, I think they're all they can if I...

1655
02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:00,120
Nine.

1656
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,100
Who was early as, like, five or four years?

1657
02:05:03,500 --> 02:05:04,740
Five or nine, six or nine years?

1658
02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:07,760
But I'll look out there for you.

1659
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:09,300
I'll... I'll... I'll take it for you.

1660
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:10,720
Go. Thank you.

1661
02:05:10,860 --> 02:05:11,100
Um.

1662
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:17,440
But...

1663
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:25,320
Or we ordered a message, trailer, and that was not entered right for you.

1664
02:05:25,980 --> 02:05:26,360
Oh, of course.

1665
02:05:28,180 --> 02:05:28,380
Sorry.

1666
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:32,460
So co-regional, the messages will go out.

1667
02:05:33,340 --> 02:05:35,900
And then, let's see.

1668
02:05:39,250 --> 02:05:42,590
Does there anything that needs to be updated on the website that anyone is aware of?

1669
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:56,020
I was going to just put my known Cameron Cameron mentioned that email list, so I was going to put information on that.

1670
02:05:56,140 --> 02:06:00,000
If people want to be added to the list for the project update.

1671
02:06:01,700 --> 02:06:05,440
But other than that, if you have any time you have anything, let me know.

1672
02:06:06,460 --> 02:06:08,140
I think that's all I've got.

1673
02:06:08,580 --> 02:06:10,020
Thank you.

1674
02:06:10,180 --> 02:06:11,980
Robert, do you have any of the things?

1675
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:25,320
So regarding UPD, I attended the meeting this last week, for about UPD and Solisa, a lot

1676
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:32,900
of promotions were announced this week, so tonight, and during the Solisa meeting we were

1677
02:06:32,900 --> 02:06:42,180
updated on the county, pulling out of Solisa's home going continuation of what the mayor

1678
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:45,440
and what's happened to a real-ford paradigm.

1679
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:47,560
This idea is different.

1680
02:06:48,220 --> 02:06:50,420
And these four out of the special districts.

1681
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:53,880
I wasn't bad.

1682
02:06:54,820 --> 02:06:58,440
We continued to work with the UPD for the trailers.

1683
02:06:58,700 --> 02:06:59,920
The trailers have been ordered.

1684
02:07:00,580 --> 02:07:03,140
The chapter of the pick, that was what you were asking them.

1685
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:04,980
The LED signs.

1686
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,670
So the repair and the new trailer have been ordered.

1687
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:12,300
And the numbers that we received.

1688
02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:18,980
I'm talking to the same numbers, they do have a boat, put on the capability, so that's

1689
02:07:18,980 --> 02:07:19,700
my privilege.

1690
02:07:21,260 --> 02:07:22,060
You can do it.

1691
02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:22,980
I'm fine.

1692
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,540
This will be too far out of the same equipment.

1693
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:29,980
Like the worst.

1694
02:07:44,570 --> 02:07:52,630
We saw something about movement, centrally linked. I've seen a couple of trucks in the canyon.

1695
02:07:55,650 --> 02:08:01,710
I mean, do you think there's a loose discussion about micro-transition, sometimes it's what I don't know what it is.

1696
02:08:01,710 --> 02:08:04,290
Kevin, do you know anything about women?

1697
02:08:05,770 --> 02:08:05,990
Yes.

1698
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:08,150
We do have a development agreement.

1699
02:08:08,330 --> 02:08:09,810
I think it's our French eyes of the Green.

1700
02:08:09,850 --> 02:08:10,030
Sorry.

1701
02:08:10,730 --> 02:08:12,150
Thank you.

1702
02:08:13,070 --> 02:08:17,710
We, it was passed in three.

1703
02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:20,550
So it's a 10 year agreement.

1704
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:26,650
So it's coming up to the radio outside of 2012 or 13.

1705
02:08:27,070 --> 02:08:28,110
So it's coming up to renew.

1706
02:08:28,510 --> 02:08:31,990
We've got to meet with them to just figure out what their time frame is.

1707
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:33,830
when they're, when it's going to happen.

1708
02:08:34,330 --> 02:08:37,170
It sounds like they're planning to do off for K.

1709
02:08:38,970 --> 02:08:41,970
Yeah, it wasn't clear to me, because the French

1710
02:08:41,970 --> 02:08:45,310
has a green that's talked about, yeah, for fiber,

1711
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:46,950
but it's on on the holes.

1712
02:08:47,410 --> 02:08:49,750
It's not, it's not like it was not on a background.

1713
02:08:50,110 --> 02:08:51,690
That's why I don't know for sure.

1714
02:08:51,850 --> 02:08:54,710
Because I have to be what they're, what their project is.

1715
02:08:54,710 --> 02:08:56,990
It looks neat with them, you find out.

1716
02:08:57,330 --> 02:08:59,090
Yeah, OK, thank you.

1717
02:08:59,750 --> 02:09:00,410
That's all I have.

1718
02:09:00,410 --> 02:09:02,590
Can I follow up and just make a sign?

1719
02:09:03,070 --> 02:09:06,690
And I'm just going back to Kodra just because I want to clarify it because I don't know.

1720
02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:08,170
I'll comment just follow me.

1721
02:09:09,490 --> 02:09:11,030
I'm just going back to my tag.

1722
02:09:12,110 --> 02:09:14,890
So, on this fire thing, I contacted Madison.

1723
02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:17,410
I wasn't, I didn't have a computer accessible.

1724
02:09:18,270 --> 02:09:20,670
I contacted where her within 14 minutes.

1725
02:09:21,570 --> 02:09:24,330
And her, like, I just told her I was working on the Kodra.

1726
02:09:24,750 --> 02:09:29,030
And I worked with Madison as well as ballet county and had never knew it.

1727
02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:34,630
So I'm just telling it there's a process and when you say like something it didn't go out and get an hour, it wasn't because

1728
02:09:35,610 --> 02:09:39,510
somebody was not doing what they were supposed to be doing. It was because there's a process.

1729
02:09:40,150 --> 02:09:46,570
I still have a matter of some of you. I said, would you please? I'm going to write this. I send it to her within probably 15, 20 minutes.

1730
02:09:47,650 --> 02:09:51,310
She rebuked it and then she wanted someone else to look at. So I'm just saying that sometimes

1731
02:09:53,400 --> 02:10:00,560
I don't know, I just want people to understand, it's not just, I take things very seriously

1732
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:08,200
and code read one of them, and there's just been times that it's implied that it takes a long time

1733
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:12,820
and it's really not the case if you're working, if you're seeing what's happening behind the scenes

1734
02:10:12,820 --> 02:10:20,820
so I just wanted to be that, I wanted that on the record because the earlier comment was not accurate

1735
02:10:22,660 --> 02:10:24,320
or didn't have an affirmation.

1736
02:10:27,210 --> 02:10:28,170
Thank you.

1737
02:10:28,890 --> 02:10:31,030
Are there any future agenda items?

1738
02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:38,160
Design guidelines of discussion and approval for next month.

1739
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:40,920
Or?

1740
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:49,320
Well, probably, we'll try and do training,

1741
02:10:49,740 --> 02:10:51,760
Claire, on or in our next meeting.

1742
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:52,560
Yes, sir.

1743
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:52,860
Okay.

1744
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:54,700
May I ask you to let her look session?

1745
02:10:55,300 --> 02:10:56,940
Instead of a regular council session?

1746
02:10:57,260 --> 02:10:57,540
Yes.

1747
02:10:57,760 --> 02:10:58,280
Thank you.

1748
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,720
I think that's the end of our meeting tonight.

1749
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:03,800
can we have the motion to adjourn? We're going to go on a close session.

1750
02:11:05,300 --> 02:11:08,800
Do we need to, uh, kind of?

1751
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,140
We have the last minute, uh, audience comments?

1752
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:15,080
We don't, we only do it at the beginning.

1753
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:16,200
Oh.

1754
02:11:16,940 --> 02:11:19,580
Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, Tyler.

1755
02:11:20,820 --> 02:11:23,540
You're talking about looming, you're talking about communication,

1756
02:11:23,860 --> 02:11:24,900
you're talking about this cane.

1757
02:11:25,780 --> 02:11:27,840
I'm going to tell you, I deal with looming a lot.

1758
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:31,960
do a concox block and then if they're going to either barrier or go

1759
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:36,000
aerial, the reason they're going aerial is with the new poles they now have

1760
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:39,340
height that they can legally do, but their places is the kingdom where we

1761
02:11:39,340 --> 02:11:42,860
no longer have anything on poles, so for them to make it up the kingdom that

1762
02:11:42,860 --> 02:11:46,860
get to a barrier, which would be direct bore, and I'll tell you I've had

1763
02:11:46,860 --> 02:11:50,960
go back after when they've done that and over here is where they've only

1764
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:57,420
put one piece of tubing in the ground, and a lot of cities now require

1765
02:11:57,420 --> 02:12:04,100
at least two, I actually ground you do your breadberry, so you've got room, and I had done places

1766
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:09,480
where they've gone to three. I would highly recommend that you don't let me if they have

1767
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:16,860
any direct burial. Don't do this one. Do it too. We'll leave what they want to see what they're

1768
02:12:16,860 --> 02:12:19,040
No, it's not me.

1769
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:19,580
It's not me.

1770
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:21,740
I don't do the good.

1771
02:12:22,300 --> 02:12:23,780
Because that would come in.

1772
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:24,700
Yes.

1773
02:12:26,780 --> 02:12:27,700
Crisis up here.

1774
02:12:28,060 --> 02:12:28,280
Okay.

1775
02:12:29,420 --> 02:12:31,320
We have a motion with you.

1776
02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,340
Which one motion to go into closed session?

1777
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:34,900
No.

1778
02:12:35,180 --> 02:12:36,480
We'll do a motion to go into that.

1779
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:37,540
Correct.

1780
02:12:38,020 --> 02:12:40,500
We have a motion to go into closed session.

1781
02:12:40,900 --> 02:12:41,580
Point up purpose.

1782
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:44,720
So there's two reasons on the agenda.

1783
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:46,840
One is litigation, one is real estate.

1784
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:48,680
Relication and real estate.

1785
02:12:49,020 --> 02:12:49,340
Yes.

1786
02:12:49,580 --> 02:12:50,020
Second.

1787
02:12:51,220 --> 02:12:52,040
Second, roll call.

1788
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:53,460
Yes.

1789
02:12:54,620 --> 02:12:55,760
In your own guess.

1790
02:12:56,220 --> 02:12:56,800
Correct, yes.

1791
02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:57,760
I'm just.

1792
02:12:58,560 --> 02:12:59,060
Her insist.

1793
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:00,660
Talk to you.

1794
02:13:04,930 --> 02:13:05,670
Thank you, everybody.

1795
02:13:09,230 --> 02:13:09,990
Good luck, Tyler.

1796
02:13:10,450 --> 02:13:12,170
What's happening inside, I can run.

1797
02:13:12,350 --> 02:13:12,870
Look at this.

1798
02:13:13,230 --> 02:13:14,370
Are you on your bike, Tyler?

1799
02:13:14,690 --> 02:13:14,970
Yeah.

1800
02:13:15,250 --> 02:13:15,490
What's up?

1801
02:13:16,150 --> 02:13:16,650
What are you on?

1802
02:13:16,850 --> 02:13:17,970
Are you in five bikes?

1803
02:13:18,110 --> 02:13:19,230
I looked at the truck and walked up.

1804
02:13:19,230 --> 02:13:21,910
Yeah, yeah, yeah