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Good evening. I'd like to welcome you to
the August 20th, 2026 board of

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commissioners meeting and please ask you
to rise for the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Roll call, please.
>> Commissioner Law,

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» here.
>> Commissioner Gooding

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» here. Commissioner Mates here.
>> Commissioner Gup here. Commissioner

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» here. Commissioner White here.
>> Commissioner Coops

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» here.
Commissioners, before we approve the

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agenda, I know we have a many people
here to talk about the data center

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deferral resolution. So, I would like to
move that up to number one in new

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business and ask for a motion to approve
the agenda as amended.

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» I'll make a motion.
>> I will second. [clears throat]

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» We have motion support. Any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I. I.

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Post. Same sign.
Next is our consent agenda. We have one

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item on the two items. No, one item on
the agenda, which is the

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We don't have any consent agenda items.
I'm sorry. Uh we'll move down to the

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approval of the August 10th, 2026
minutes.

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If there are no corrections, looking for
a motion to approve.

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I'll make the motion. I'll second.
Motion to support.

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Any discussion

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hearing? None. All in favor say I.
>> I.

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» I.
>> Oppos. Same sign. We've now come to our

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first public comment. Anyone wishing to
address the commission, please come

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forward. You have three minutes. If we
have a lot on the data center. If people

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start repeating themselves for time
factors, I'd like to deal with that. Go

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ahead, sir. State your name.
>> My name is Daniel Hire. I live on

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Lincoln Place and a resident of Paskki.
Uh before I make a few comments about

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the data center moratorum,
I'd like to share why my perspective

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might be important.
I'm trained to see the moving parts. I'm

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an engineer, a statistician, an actuary,
and a financial quant. My whole career

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has been about taking apart complex
projects and understanding how the

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pieces actually fit and where they often
fail.

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I manage risk for a living. Risk at real
scale. I've run multi-billion dollar

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investment portfolios. I manage credit
risk for one of the largest insurance

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companies in the world. My job is to
tell the difference between a promise

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and a guarantee. Between a number on a
slide and a dollar in our pockets.

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[snorts] I deal with these people. I sit
across from the table from firms like

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the ones that are likely to court us. I
know how they think, how they model a

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deal, and what they're really optimizing
for.

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I know what we're committed to the
community really means on their

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spreadsheet and what it doesn't.
So, I'm not here out of fear or

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sentiment. I'm here because I understand
what they're offering and I want you all

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to see what I see before you make your
own decisions.

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The big takeaway is know the devil
before you do business with him.

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No business team drives this far for the
scenery. Before we enter any entertain

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any discussion with a firm like this, we
need to understand why they want us.

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Here's the real value that they hope to
extract. They want our cheap land

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because it's cheap. Remote acreage.
Remote acorage is exactly what they need

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and exactly what we can't get back. What
reads is a bargain to them is our

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irreplaceable asset sold at a discount.
They want our water and power access

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quietly. Data centers are thirsty and
power hungry. They'll draw on the same

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resources that sustain our wild spaces
and our residents, the cost of which

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lands on us long after the deal is done.
They want a weak counterparty. A small

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remote county with a modest staff is
easier to out lawyer, outweight, and out

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negotiate than a city. Our size isn't a
courtesy to them. It's the reason we're

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on their map.
They want the light footprint on their

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books. A remote site is a line item to
be optimized or abandoned. To them,

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we're not a community. We're a capacity.
bought when it's convenient and dropped

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immediately when the market turns.
They want in before the rules exist.

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Move fast, lock in terms, set precedent
while we're still figuring out what to

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even ask. Our lack of preparation is
their leverage.

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Am I done?
>> You can wrap up if you'd like. Final

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comment.
>> I will just say briefly, uh, keep in

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mind what our real needs are. We're not
short on money. We have a balanced

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budget. We run a frequent equity at the
end of the year. We're short on

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resources. Cash doesn't build houses,
train workers, or conjure contractors

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out of thin air. A corporate check lands
in a few pockets, but it doesn't solve

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the remoteness or the thin labor, the
thin housing, or thin services that

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actually constrain us. Thank you.
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ANYONE

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else wishing to address the board?
>> I do.

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» Good evening. Good to see some of you
again. My name is Dale Scott. I uh am

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from Friendship Township, one of the
townships that uh is totally involved or

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under uh county zoning. I'm a former
supervisor for 10 years of of the

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township and I currently serve on the
tunnel of trees committee um that uh

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oversees the tunnel of trees. First of
all um has the commission determined

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whether or not the citizens of of EMTT
County are in favor of the placement of

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data centers in this county.
I know you won't answer those questions.

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This should be a determining factor in
your decision on the resolution that

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you're considering. It appears that an
approval decision tonight was

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essentially set the wheels
turning to create a road map for

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development of data centers. Perhaps the
citizenry would prefer that data centers

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not even be mentioned in our zoning
ordinance. Are data centers mentioned in

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our current county master plan? I don't
know. Will they be mentioned in our

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soontobe renewed master plan?
If so, how aggressively was the public's

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opinion pursued on the subject?
Secondly, is there any difference

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between what a data center developer
would face today if applying to build

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than he or she would face if he applied
after this resolution was put in place?

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Is there really any difference? The
resolution allows a property owner to

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who shall feel agrieved by a deferral of
action, I quote, to appeal to the county

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commission for relief to be granted from
the deferment described in the

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resolution. So, is there any real
difference between the way it is now and

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what would happen after the resolution?
And finally, it appears to me that this

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resolution will create a roadmap for the
placement of data centers in EMTT County

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while not applying significant
roadblocks to developments that may very

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well be unwanted by the population.
Thank you.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My name is
Karen Ulik. I grew up here in Bataski. I

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just moved back to Bear Creek Township
after 33 years in Tucson, 14 of which I

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served on the Tucson City Council. And
last year we had our first data center

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proposal.
And uh so I urge you to have an ironclad

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pause to give us time to make sure that
the protections are in place that are

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needed.
I'm concerned because what we faced in

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Tucson was an immediate demand for a
non-disclosure agreement in order to

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engage with a prospective development
and it prevented us

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from doing our job in sharing
information with the public. I I can't

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tell you how much sleep I lost and how
devastating it was to face the prospect

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of a power user that would have doubled
the demand on our power grid. Tucson is

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a city of half a million people and one
data center built out would have doubled

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the demand on our power grid. Water in
the desert, as you know, is a whole

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another matter. But I I just um urge you
to not only pass a moratorum, but as

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these incredibly well-informed speakers
have noted, that moratorum needs to be

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very clear that any prospective
development which exceeds a defined

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threshold in water or power use cannot
be approved without additional

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time for you to study and for the public
to understand the impacts. I appreciate

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your service and protecting our
beautiful environment and the great

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people of this community. And I just
urge you and Mr. Attorney, please make

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sure that the language of any resolution
passed does not have loopholes. And I

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understand property owner rights.
Arizona has the strongest property

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rights. All we did was said any project
that exceeds

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the traditional
water and power use in a warehouse or

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light industrial or other zoning.
Anything that exceeds what has

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historically been seen needs additional
approvals. You're not taking anybody's

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rights away. What you're saying is that
these incredibly

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uh consequential projects
require much more scrutiny. Thank you.

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[applause]
>> Anyone else wish to address the board?

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» I think I have a minute left.
>> Uh I don't know. I want to

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There's another there's another comment
period coming up

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» real quick and you could go maybe give
you a quick break from important data

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center comments. My name's Carrie May.
I'm the owner of Bo Engineering and

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Design. I'm here tonight to address the
storage text amendment. Uh I've designed

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10 different storage facilities in the
last 5 years uh that include commercial,

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self storage, uh private storage. So, I
wanted to emphasize to this board just a

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few of my practical concerns that remain
after the public hearing process at the

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planning commission level. First, this
text as it exists uh creates new legally

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non-conforming uses out of existing
recently approved developments

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unnecessarily.
This is because the proposed rules do

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not target impact concerns directly.
Rather, they incorporate large blanket

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setbacks, height restrictions, story
limitations, and unusual access

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requirements that will act as
exclusionary zones, prohibiting a

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legitimate land use that satisfies an
important market driven need in the

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community. The height, story, and access
uh requirements also exceed existing

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districts zoning standards for other
more intensive uses along with, to my

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knowledge, the state building code and
an international fire code. I certainly

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support considerations of life and
safety measures and IFC standards, but

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what has been implemented thus far is
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I also do not believe that the
commission has adequately considered how

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these regulations will specifically
limit economic growth in the form of

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infill development and redevelopment of
vacant or distressed properties. Storage

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is an excellent use of these properties
because it's flexible and transformable.

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If this tax is adopted, storage will for
some unknown reason be disallowed,

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largely disallowed within 200 to 300
feet along the state highway corridor in

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business and industrial districts and in
existing vacant buildings that will not

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typically meet the new standards. If
there are other preferable commercial

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and industrial uses wanting to make use
of these numerous vacant buildings and

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properties, they have had the
opportunity but have not done so. I'm

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asking the board to send this amendment
back to the planning commission with

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direction for them to set up a
subcommittee to engage with stakeholders

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in a back and forth manner. Four of my
clients with very recently approved

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projects could and should have been
contacted for their input on these

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amendments. All were unaware of the
process until the week of the public

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hearing. None of their developments were
included in the examples studied by the

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commission and all have will have
non-conforming land uses if the text is

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adopted.
Finally, I just believe if adopted, this

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amendment will have an overall negative
effect on county residents by limiting

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the availability of marketdriven storage
needs and services by increasing the

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cost of storage because of artificial
limitation of supply by restricting

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opportunities for infill development and
redevelopment. by creating

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non-conforming uses wi-i which affect
property value and may be not be

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replaced if excessively damaged. One by
unintentionally dispersing the storage

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of material deemed to be of concern by
the fire chief across the county. By

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intentionally leading to the acquisition
of large farm forest parcels for

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personal storage that could have been
concentrated in appropriate business and

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industrial districts. and by
intentionally forcing significant

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additional paved surfaces and expensive
blanket landscape screening requirements

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from buildings to roadways.
Thank you.

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» Thank you.
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» Anyone else wishing to address the
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You have a second room, too. So, when
you're down in here, if you would call

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for them, please.
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[clears throat]
>> Hi, thank you. My name is Lee Novak. I

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grew up in Paskki. I also moved away for
about 30 years and came back because of

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the scenery and the wildlife and the
natural resources.

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I spent 30 over 30 years as a planner
with Forest Service largescale landscape

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planning and I understand master plans.
I understand visions, goals, objectives.

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When I looked at the EMTT County plan,
um it was clear what the what this area

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is all about, what the vision is. It's
wildlife, it's water, it's air, it's

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wildlife, it's tourism.
I also looked at some of the goals under

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that vision, one being economic
and it talked about small businesses and

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light industrial. When I looked at the
definition of light industrial,

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it looked like it was low noise,
low impacts,

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and um a light footprint. I'm not sure
data centers would meet any of those.

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So I guess my question would be if we're
going to go to the trouble of having a

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master plan
>> and getting input on that master plan, I

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would strongly suggest that we look at
this proposal. And maybe it's not a

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formal proposal yet, but it's definitely
on the horizon. Something we need to be

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thinking about in a vision. Um, so I
would just ask that we incorporate that

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sort of thinking into the final master
plan.

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» Thank you. [applause]

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» Anyone else wishing to address the
board? Yes, ma'am.

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[clears throat]
>> My name is Vanza Hollow Peter. I'm out

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of Springville Township. I've been up
here 5 years. Originally from downstate,

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grew up in the same kind of rural area.
Scotier, it's about same distance from

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my house, Paskki.
I'm just getting started as a small

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farmer up here. My husband's in the
trades. He's been here all of his life.

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We've got four kids, all daughters. One
day I'm going to have grandkids just

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like everybody else behind me. Leier is
going through the same thing right now.

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I'm in my early 30s. I'm on TikTok. I'm
on Facebook. I'm on YouTube. I talk with

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other creators. You're talking from
California to New York down to Texas,

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Florida. I'm watching what everybody's
going through, especially the farmers.

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I'm seeing what this is doing to crops,
rivers, animals. This stuff with any

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type of sound puts off frequency. It
distresses all of our wildlife. So

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everything that our DNR does to protect
the wildlife,

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all the licensing we have to go through
if we want to be able to go get a deer

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like we've all traditionally done, what
deers there going to be? What fish are

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there going to be?
We have the hatchery. What good's that

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going to do? We got pifas and Pelston
companies like data centers, they love

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airports. Also gives them eminent
domain. 2021 to 2022 was put into

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legislation where private companies are
able to get eminent donating. We don't

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have those protections anymore.
How are they all funded? Executive

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order, what number was it that the
president put in? Central space, by the

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way. 401ks, pensions that are now
publicly traded, that is all part of the

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investment. Do we all stand for that?

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» Every one of you are for the public. We
are the public. Our public doesn't need

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this not even five generations from now.
None of us know truly what it's going to

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be for, what they're going to use it
for, what it does. What are they going

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to do after they start it once that
ground breaks? How much control are you

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guys going to have? Or are they going to
take it above your head?

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Everybody talks about line five. Yet a
data center anywhere in this county,

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anywhere in Michigan for that matter.
We're surrounded by how many inland

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lakes, waterways, great lakes.
They're already allowing it down state

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and you should hear from our community
members down state what's already

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happening
>> and NDAs.

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» Yeah. No, that's easily discoverable as
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not for us, not for the future.
Thank you. [applause]

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» I saw you back there. Thank you. Thank
you. Good evening. My name is Zach

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Stewart. I'm an attorney atward and
Fischer in Traverse City. Uh my firm

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represents uh Walker's Mountain View,
who's the owner of uh the luxury garages

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at Hearthside 31 Garages. Um I'm here
tonight to talk about the uh storage

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amendment ordinance. I I've been a
president at the last two planning

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commission meetings uh and and uh we've
expressed our concerns at the last two

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planning commission meetings about the
ordinance updates. And uh one of the

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things I said at the first planning
commission meeting that I was attending

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was, you know, it's important to
remember that uh good lawmakers

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pass good laws and that's why you guys
are in the seats that you're in right

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now, right? And I think you're hearing
it from everybody in the community with

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respect to the storage or excuse me the
day the data center um information and

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the requests that you're hearing from
everybody here and and I guess that uh

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the stakeholders with with their um with
their rights and the money and the

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privileges that they've put into these
storage units. They ask you guys to put

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the same effort into that as we ask you
to put in with the data centers. Uh

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right now the ordinance amendments uh
are vague in parts. They're overburding

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cement parts. They their their setback
requirements. Their their fire lane

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issues. These are all things that are
concerns. I we understand. Uh but the

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numbers seem to be taken out of thin air
and not rationally related to a

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legitimate public concern of the health,
safety, and welfare of the citizens of

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this community. Uh and so, um another
big issue that was addressed by uh Krie

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May is the the creation of more
non-conforming lots. and and that's

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truly what is going to happen uh with
these ordinance updates. Uh we just ask

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that the the county commissioners uh do
what's right here. Um we don't need to

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pass something just because uh there's
an artificial time limit that we've

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created. Let's let's pass laws that do
the right thing for the right

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circumstances and benefit the community.
And that's all that the stakeholders

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have been asking since day one. Uh so we
ask that you do not pass the ordinance

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amendments tonight. Let's pass it back
back down to the planning commission and

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let's uh further discuss and revise and
make sure that when we do revise the

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storage ordinance uh we do we do it in
the right way. So thank you

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[applause]

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» thank you Mr. Chairman. Uh good evening
commissioners, staff, and uh let's not

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forget all the public. As Miss May and
uh Zachary the attorney, I just heard we

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I'm not here for data centers, although
I interested in that conversation. I

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don't want to get it confused with the
storage text amendments that have been

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going on since January.
And as you know, I've been here a few

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times in front of you guys as well. Uh
I'm here again tonight to share my

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concerns regarding the proposed tax
amendments for the storage uses. I see

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the recommendation by Mr. Ber to extend
the moratorum until December 1st, 2026.

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[snorts] This is obviously being
suggested for various reasons. In my

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opinion, the reason is the process has
been grossly flawed. Someone might say

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different, but this is what I call the
adult conversation.

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My experience and observation is the
current ordinance is not broken and it

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has historically been used without any
objection until the December 12th 4th,

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2025 EMT County Planning Commission
meeting when a moratorium was requested

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by a certain business owner.
I agree the definitions of different

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storage and warehousing uses can be
updated and clarified. I feel this is

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very important.
However, the supplemental regulations

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being discussed are ownorous and
egregious.

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For example, restricting the
historically acceptable height of 30 ft

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to 20 ft as proposed is without
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Clearly, no one has reviewed not only
the impact on new development, but the

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additional nonconformities it will
create, especially in the industrial

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districts and for what reason. And I'm
not just talking about the highways. I'm

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talking about interior industrial
districts will be affected.

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It was not until the August 6th meeting
that height was an issue in the

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industrial district. None of this makes
sense and the amount of time wasted of

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the county staff expenses incurred,
including paying legal fees to review

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text and write resolutions after 8
months. What are the results? All this

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could have been avoided if guided by
common sense and reason. As a member of

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this community, I have spent many hours
on this issue, so I can truly understand

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how hard it is to read and review all of
the information.

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Tonight's packet alone is 70 plus pages,
and that is not everything which has

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been compiled over the course of this
suspension period.

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The two motions voted during the August
11th meeting were split 43 and 34 with

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two members absent. Any attorney will
agree

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when working on text amendments, which
is legislative law, the preferred

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outcome and goal should be unanimous
decisions. For this reason, we

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respectfully request this board of
commissioners to let the issue expire

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and allow the current code to live.
Respectfully, Paul and Annie Meridian,

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my position is a little bit different
than what I heard out of Miss May and

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Attorney Stewart. Uh, a postponement.
What is it going to do for 90 more days?

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anyone else wishing to

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address the board?
Anyone in Sir, go ahead.

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Hello,
I'm Cameron Chup. I live on the south

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side of Paskki. I've lived here for
about three and a half years now.

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I
love our areas. I'm talking about data

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centers. I figured I'd [laughter]
[snorts]

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uh when we pledged allegiance, we pledge
allegiance

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under God. And for the majority of Emma
County, God is Jesus Christ.

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So I would like to remind you of some
teachings of God.

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Do unto others as you would have done
unto yourself. If you've seen any of the

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destruction that's caused by these data
centers, I've seen videos of people down

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in Dejac. They have 60 dB of noise on
their porch. That's not what I want for

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my neighbors.
I'm supposed to love my neighbors as

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myself. I
I could never do that to somebody. I

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I don't think that that would be a good
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that it's bad. We shouldn't have this in
Emma County. Emma County is

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perfect and pure and that's not
something that aligns with our values. I

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know we can't zone it out and we should
talk to the state to figure out how we

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can.
This is not something that we want.

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Oh, that that's all I got. I I just
don't think we should do THIS

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[clears throat]

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[applause]

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in the room [applause] before I call the
auxiliary.

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May I just pass this to the recorder,
please? Sorry for

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» Mike. Is there anyone in the auxiliary
court?

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Come on up. Come on up.

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She didn't raise her hand.

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» Tana Baldwin, Bear Creek Township. I'd
like to speak on both of these two

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things tonight. Um first of all on data
centers I think there's an overwhelming

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number of people who are opposed to them
but we seem to have two camps on how

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about how to go about dealing with it.
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you know Tammy came up to the to Bliss
and talked about things that could be

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done through planning and that's kind of
where we're at now but there's also the

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feeling of a lot of people who have
heard that we should say nothing or that

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we shouldn't address it. So I think the
real confusion is what is the best way

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to go about doing this? Do we want to
put something in the master plan? Do we

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want to create zoning ordinances that
can restrict things or are we better off

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not to have me and mentioned as some
other people have said and I'm not sure

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which that is but I think you should
definitely pass the

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I don't want to say that word
moratorium. um [laughter]

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the pause um for us to figure it out to
figure out what the best way to go about

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it is. And I just saw an article today
about a town downstate that is getting

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sued because they did applause. The
reason is they did applause after they

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already had an application. So I think
it's better we do it now than later.

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Secondly, on the um storage issue, I sat
in planning commissions for nine months

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as we talked about the storage issue and
from my perspective, we have very

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limited business space along the
corridors

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and storage does not require those.
And if they don't have the place to put

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businesses along our business corridors,
they're going to want to push out to

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where my house is. And I would like to
keep it where it belongs, near town, in

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the business corridors and not have the
businesses trying to stretch out south

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of Innertown or wherever else they're
going to push into. And by keeping

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storage separate from that, I think it's
important. And I think the planning

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commission went over and over this for
nine months trying to come up with a

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solution. And I would very much urge you
to pass that. Thank you.

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» [applause]

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» GO AHEAD. COME FORWARD.

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» HELLO, I'm Violet Vanderver. I rent a
house on um Division Road in Paskki.

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I've been here for 6 years. I didn't
prepare anything, but I wanted to make

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uh my position known. I don't support
any data centers in the area. Um, we

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have
herand that visit our backyard on

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Division Road. We have a bobcat. We
have, um, malards. We have all sorts of

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beautiful wildlife. I think data centers
would really, really suck. Um, and, uh,

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I think you're going to see a lot of
brain drain if you pass anything um,

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related to data centers here. Um, and I
think you're going to see people

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leaving. I think you'll see quality of
life really affected deeply. um all

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sorts of wildlife affected in very
negative ways. Um and it sounds like a

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nightmare. So that's my opinion. THANKS.
[applause]

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» Good evening. Thank you for listening to
the public. Um I'm John Pickering. I've

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lived uh here south of Paskki on Indian
Garden Road for 31 years. Uh before that

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I lived in Charavoy for about seven. Um
I moved to this area because I'm an

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environmentalist and this is an
incredibly beautiful place. I, as an

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environmentalist, I
think that wind power is a good thing,

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but we I heard a long time ago that we
had a restriction of 35 dB over property

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lines and that was a kind of a backdoor
way that no windmills were able to be

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put up in Emma County. Um, I recently
drove over to Wisconsin to see my aunt

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and uncle and along Highway 43, they're
building a data center and it is

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horrendous. It's about a half a mile
long and everything for a mile on each

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side of it is totally destroyed. I there
is no respect for the environment. Um,

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aside from all the other facts that you
know about them, I

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just want to say that that
does not fit what I see as our strength

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in this community. And
I don't care what you have to do, don't

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let it happen.
>> Yeah.

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» Thank you. [applause]

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» [applause]
>> YES, MA'AM.

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» GOODBYE.

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» HI, EVERYBODY. Thank you for all the
hard work that you do. My name is Denise

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Cruz. I've been in Paskki for four
years. I love it up here. It's heaven.

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Okay. I just have a big question.
>> Why is our love of money greater than

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our love of our world and environment?
[applause] Please. NO.

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» Thank you. Anyone else? Anything new on
the data centers we haven't heard?

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30 seconds.
>> Somebody there.

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Well, when I became supervisor, I
mentioned that I was earlier.

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I was set off to for training to learn
about how my job was to focus on the

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protection of private property rights.

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And I hoped, you know, that after that
that at some point along the line, I

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would be trained in uh how to protect
what I like to call public planetary

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rights, fresh water, clean air, the
right to not have uh uh landfills um uh

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being filled up by data center rejects
after three years. They're going to last

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about 3 to 5 years. They're going to
have to be put in a dump. So, I

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recommend that you guys,
they're all guys.

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» Yeah, they are.
>> Reconsider this. Take this resolution

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back back to your homes, back to your
meetings, and consider the whole planet

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and the public
rights that we have for these

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commodities like fresh air and fresh
water like this woman just spoke to. So

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that's my request.
Thank you.

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00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:22,359
[applause]
ANYONE

420
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ELSE?

421
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Seeing no one, we'll close public
hearing or public comment depend on

422
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:38,280
public hearing [laughter] and go to our
first appearance which is the community

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00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,280
resource recovery alliance.

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00:36:51,305 --> 00:36:53,325
» [laughter]

425
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:56,839
» Sorry.

426
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,720
Come on.

427
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,079
We had it a second ago. Just kidding.

428
00:37:29,296 --> 00:37:31,316
[snorts]

429
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:34,760
» There you go.

430
00:37:35,846 --> 00:37:38,320
[laughter]
>> I was like,

431
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,240
» can you space through it?
>> Yeah, I think I can do something here.

432
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:46,720
I'm gonna My screen is upside down for
whatever [laughter] reason. There we go.

433
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,920
All right.
>> Good evening, commissioners. My name is

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,599
Caitlyn Kuski and I am the executive
director of Community Recovery Alliance.

435
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,599
And we're going to totally change gears
for a second and I just wanted to update

436
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:03,599
the commission on kind of who we are and
what we're doing. Um, we are a recovery

437
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:08,720
community organization in Pitaski. Um,
we've been around since late 2018, early

438
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:12,480
2019. Um, and our mission is to serve
anyone seeking recovery from substance

439
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:16,160
use concerns with or without mental
health complications by creating safe

440
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,839
and healthy recovery friendly
communities in lower northern Michigan.

441
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:26,720
And um, we are actually one of the
opioid settlement recipients as well

442
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,079
with you guys. So um, and we've been
able to we've really had to change gears

443
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,400
a little bit this year. So we wanted to
take an opportunity um, to to tell the

444
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,320
commissioners and the public about what
we're kind of doing. Um, but we are

445
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,720
what's called a recovery community
organization or an RCO. And that just

446
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,760
means that we are grassroots. We're led
by people in recovery. So, our board of

447
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:54,240
directors are people in recovery as
well. Um, and we work in the education,

448
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,880
outreach, and advocacy. We are not
treatment and we're not prevention. Um,

449
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,480
and we really are one of the driving
forces behind multiple pathways of

450
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:08,560
recovery. Most people know about AA and
NA, which are 12step traditions. We also

451
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:11,920
talk about other traditions um and other
pathways to recovery such as smart

452
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,680
recovery or dharma recovery because just
like we don't all we don't have just

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00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:19,119
McDonald's to go eat at. We have lots of
different fast food restaurants. There's

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00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,680
lots of different ways to find and
sustain recovery. And um we've

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00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:27,680
traditionally been located in downtown
Pitaski, but we were in one of the

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00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:31,119
buildings that was condemned. Um it was
closed by the city. I'm sorry. I should

457
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:37,359
say it was closed because of uh it was
deemed unsafe for occupancy and um in

458
00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:41,040
downtown Pitaski even though we are not
treatment we don't serve people who are

459
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,200
in active use we are helping people
sustain their recovery there is still a

460
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:49,359
lot of stigma in our community about
those we serve and we were continually

461
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:54,480
continually told we were not allowed to
rent from different vendor uh different

462
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:58,400
landlords in town um which is why we
ended up in the building we did um and

463
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:03,119
it lasted a year and a half so in the
last four years we've had to move three

464
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:07,680
times. Um, but because of all this, if
you know the recovery community, we are

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00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:12,000
nothing if not perseverant. So, um, we
persevered and we actually were able to

466
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:16,720
purchase our own location this year. So,
we have a permanent home. We're not

467
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:20,320
going anywhere. Um, and it's still under
construction. Um, but we will be

468
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,320
opening. So, this is our building
without any of our signage on it yet. I

469
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:28,800
was hoping I would have more signs, but
you know, construction takes a while. So

470
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:33,520
um we are open during construction and
we are still serving people in recovery.

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00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:38,240
We hope that the community center space
will be open by octo by mid-occtober of

472
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,520
this year. Um and then we will continue
to like go on into the next phase of

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00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:48,000
construction and doing our
administrative wing. Um our what our

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00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:52,000
hours are changing um as we start to be
open more. Um but you can find all that

475
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:59,040
on our website and on our social media
pages. um kind of what we do at at CRA

476
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:04,880
um we offer peer recovery coaching which
is um non treatment non-clinical

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00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:11,359
services um you can do it in person or
by zoom and um and there's no and all of

478
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:15,440
our services are offered at no cost. So
oftent times our population um fall

479
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:19,359
through the cracks of insurance. You
know they might not qualify for private

480
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,440
insurance but they make too much to
qualify for Medicaid. And so all of our

481
00:41:21,359 --> 00:41:27,920
services are offered at no cost. There's
no um you don't have to come in and do a

482
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:31,200
medical intake with us. You just come in
and say we say, "How's it going today?"

483
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,240
And you tell us what's going on and we
can talk about whatever barriers are

484
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:38,560
you're facing in your recovery right
now. We offer multiple pathway meetings.

485
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,960
We offer community space that's open for
other recovery groups to use as well. Um

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00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,480
we are also one of the training sites in
Northern Michigan for the recovery

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00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:50,640
friendly workplace initiative. So any
business owners who um have ever hired

488
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:54,160
somebody in recovery, which if you hire
more than one person, you are going to

489
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,720
hire somebody in recovery at some point.
So we're training businesses on how to

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00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:02,480
support people in recovery on your team.
And it really is more about being

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00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,760
employee friendly than just recovery
friendly. We just like to frame it in

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00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,920
the in the terms of recovery friendly.
So we're talking about how we can

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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:16,560
support employees and help people stay
in their jobs um and and grow in their

494
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:20,880
positions as well. Um, and then we do a
lot of fun and sober events. We're a

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00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,800
rural community. A lot of people, what
do you do on a Friday night? You go to

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:28,079
the bar. Um, if you're in recovery, you
might not want to go to the bar. So, we

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00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,160
are really focusing on building a space,
a community space that will be

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:36,800
substancefree that people can come to
and build that community and find

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00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,920
like-minded individuals and just hang
out. So, um, it will be a great space

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00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:46,480
when we finally get it up and running.
Um, I already mentioned the recovery

501
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:51,200
friendly workplace initiative. It's no
cost to the employers. They get state

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00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:56,960
level recognition. Um, it's just a
really great program um to help

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00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:00,800
employers and the employees as well. We
always know businesses that are looking

504
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,560
for new employees and we have a whole
pool of people in recovery who have just

505
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,160
completed treatment, maybe they're
getting out of jail or incarceration and

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00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,599
are looking for work. So, we help
connect those dots between we have

507
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:16,160
employees who need jobs and we have
employers who need employees. So, let's

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00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:20,880
connect those and get them together. Um,
one of the big events this year is we're

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00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:24,960
doing a stigma reduction event called
Beyond Labels. It will be Saturday,

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00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:29,040
August 29th, and we wanted to extend an
invitation to everyone. We will have a

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00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:34,000
panel of speakers which include Brandon
HooL coming up from MDHHS to speak about

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00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:39,760
harm reduction and the stigma around
that. Um and then we also have three

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00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:45,920
local um business and community leaders
that will be talking um on different

514
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:49,520
aspects of um stigma around recovery. So
Laura is from Kilwins. She's the HR

515
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:55,599
director with Kilwin. She will be
presenting um uh Mr. Shuda never say his

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00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:00,160
last name right the will be speaking as
well um from the legal side of things

517
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:05,119
and then uh Kelly will be speaking from
the treatment and and uh services side

518
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,079
of things. So, I know that there's a
whole lot of things going on tonight, so

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00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,760
I wanted to keep it really short and
sweet, but we wanted to thank the county

520
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:15,280
commissioners for your support through
opioid settlement dollars. And we look

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00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:20,160
forward to being able to continue to use
those opioid settlement dollars to

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00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:23,680
increase our uh new space and we hope
that everyone comes and visit us visits

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,190
when we get it open. We will have lots
of free good coffee. So, please come and

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00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,440
see us.
>> [laughter and clears throat]

525
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,839
» Uh, Caitlyn, could you talk a little bit
more about your new space and and how

526
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,599
that is go, how that remodeling process
is going? I stopped by there a couple

527
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,520
weeks ago.
>> Yeah, it's great. So, we are actually we

528
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,440
were fortunate enough to find a space.
We did have to leave downtown. Um, most

529
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:47,440
of our people don't have transportation,
so we were really worried about where we

530
00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:52,800
could go, where our people would still
be able to walk or bike to get to us.

531
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:56,640
Um, and we are now located up um on East
Mitchell, right across from the new

532
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:01,359
Salvation Army building, which has been
it's great. It's becoming this like

533
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,960
human services hub corner up there. Like
there's so many nonprofits right in that

534
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:11,680
area. So, we'll be able to cross refer
to each other all the time. Um, we have

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00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:16,079
um just shy of 4,000 square ft and um
the it's been a very long and slow

536
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,760
process, but it's coming along. In the
next couple of weeks, they'll be

537
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:23,760
finishing up the community center space.
So, we will have a a big room that can

538
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:27,599
divide down the middle so we can have
recovery meetings on one side and the

539
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:32,319
community space going on the other side.
Um, and then we'll have administrative

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00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,920
offices and trauma in trauma-informed
coaching offices in the back half of the

541
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:41,440
building as well. And that's we're
trying to operate in the space. We were

542
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:45,440
um kind of transient for a few months as
we had to kind of move our offices while

543
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:49,200
we were waiting to find a new space. Um,
so we just were really anxious to get

544
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:51,920
started. So we're operating while
construction is happening. You know,

545
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,440
we're on a call. Sorry about the
construction noise in the background,

546
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,880
but everybody gets it. So, um, yeah,
it's going to be a beautiful space. Um,

547
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,720
we're located kind of right next to
where the old Harbor Hall building used

548
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,760
to be. Um, and it'll be open to the
public very soon.

549
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:10,079
» How's your funding process for that?
>> Yes. So, most of our funding, we were

550
00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:14,000
very fortunate that we received funding
from the Michigan Department of Health

551
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:20,079
and Human Services this year. um from
they were able to issue a lot of a chunk

552
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:25,839
of funding for organizations like us
from the recovery um from the health and

553
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:30,079
from the healing and recovery funding
which is the state's level of opioid

554
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:34,000
settlement dollars. So that fund they
were able to give us funding. So that

555
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:37,680
helped fund the first phase of
construction. We are now looking for

556
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,760
funding to support the second phase of
construction and building that up as we

557
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,839
go. So we have some state funding for
that. Um, if you're familiar with

558
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,280
grants, grants don't always like to
support capital expenses, and after

559
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,119
going through this, I understand why,
but um, it's a harder one. You know,

560
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,319
programming is pretty easy to find
funding and grants for, but the

561
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,319
construction process is a lot harder to
find funding for. So, we are seeking

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00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:04,240
funding and we have a campaign out
called building roots of recovery where

563
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:10,440
we're trying to get the community buyin
into our space and get some community

564
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,440
support and donations for that as well.

565
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,760
We'll be at funding. Applications will
be out probably late September, so we'll

566
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:21,440
be able to look forward to that.
>> Perfect.

567
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,040
» Any questions for Caitlyn?
>> Thank you.

568
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,372
» Thank you so much. And thank you for
allowing me to switch gears here a

569
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,372
little bit. [applause]

570
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:33,520
» Now, move on to the administrator
report.

571
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:37,920
» Yeah, my applause. [laughter]
>> My report tonight will be brief. Um, I

572
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:43,280
gave you the uh staffing report. You'll
see um up front we have three positions.

573
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:48,720
Open EMS as a paramedic uh corrections
officer and a data data specialist for

574
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:52,800
our GIS department. Um you can see the
hires. We uh we've been hiring people

575
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,520
and uh that's good. We're getting people
applying for our jobs. Construction

576
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,680
resources uh department uh that oversees
our building electrical mechanical and

577
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:07,760
plumbing inspections. was see July was
down a bit from permits over last year,

578
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:12,640
but overall this year we're about a 1%
increase. So, we continue to build in

579
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:17,280
the community and and continue to uh get
permits. So, that's good to see. FEMA

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00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:22,800
offices are uh open to the end of this
month. If you had any um issues with the

581
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:27,359
flooding, we please ask you to go to the
Lancen Fire Department Monday through

582
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Saturday, 10 to 6. Uh there are staff
there to help you with uh any recovery

583
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:37,200
you might have from flooding that
happened earlier this spring.

584
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:41,520
Locks are open. Uh water levels are are
finally to normal levels. It's only

585
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,480
taken us till July 20th to get to that
point,

586
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:49,839
» but uh that is good news that uh the
water levels are are finally down. Big

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00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:54,160
uh week next week. It's the EMTT County
Fair. Um, we've got a lot of events

588
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:59,040
going on and uh, if you drive by there
right now, you'll see the setup going on

589
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:03,760
right now. Um, Tuesday night and Tuesday
is really the opening day. Carnival

590
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:08,400
rides open up at 4:00. We've got a
cornhole tournament Tuesday night.

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00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:13,040
Travis Trip concert on Wednesday night.
I think we have about 1,600 tickets sold

592
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:18,000
for that. We have the rodeo on Thursday
night. We have almost 1,800 tickets sold

593
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:22,960
for that. So, the grand stands will be
full. That's a new event this year. Uh

594
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:27,599
monster trucks are back on Friday night.
Autocross and all the activities of 4

595
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,200
will be going on. I did include in there
a schedule of all the events. So if

596
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,240
you're interested in what's going on the
fair, um you can look at our website and

597
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,839
there's a whole list of activities that
4 has all the animals and everything

598
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,720
that goes on. If you have not been to
the fair, we please encourage you to go

599
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:48,000
out there and enjoy your time at the
fair. That is my report.

600
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:48,000
» Thank you. Any questions for Mr.

601
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:58,640
Mrs. Gibson, the financial report.
>> All right. Well, this report shows now

602
00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:03,839
we're halfway through 2026 already. It's
hard to believe. Um, we're currently at

603
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:08,800
11% of our revenues, which is to be
expected because we don't start

604
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:16,880
receiving tax dollars until July,
August. So, we'll start seeing that

605
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:24,720
climb. Um, our expenditures are at 34%.
And we have a lot of capital um,

606
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:32,480
projects that have been going on. Just
for the month of June, we spent $1.3

607
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:37,520
million on capital projects. So, uh, our
facilities and assets, um, Dave Analik

608
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:43,760
has been very busy.
So with all these projects and

609
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:50,160
other than that we are doing really well
for this time of year and I have nothing

610
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:53,960
else for my report. Any questions?
>> Questions for Mrs. Gibson?

611
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,400
» Thank you.
Our next item on the agenda since we

612
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,800
have no unfinished business are are the
claims for committee and travel

613
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:07,800
vouchers.
Would

614
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:16,640
you like a motion, please?
>> I move to or maybe start over. I move

615
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:22,480
for the payment of the claims in the
amount of 4,225,

616
00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:26,400
$965.90
and for the payment of a committee and

617
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:29,400
travel vouchers in the amount of
6678.72.

618
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,920
» Second. We have a motion and support.
Any discussion?

619
00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:37,920
» [clears throat]
>> Hearing no discussion. Roll call,

620
00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,359
please.
>> Commissioner Coats,

621
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,800
» yes.
>> Commissioner White,

622
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,240
» yes.
>> Commissioner Katowski,

623
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:43,680
» yes.
>> Commissioner Gup,

624
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,880
» yes.
>> Commissioner Mates,

625
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,000
» yes.
>> Mr. Gooding,

626
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,400
» yes.
>> Mr. L,

627
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:52,240
» yes.
>> Motion carries. We're now into new

628
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,319
business.
As I did at the earlier part, I amended

629
00:51:54,319 --> 00:52:02,800
the agenda.
And so, our first item will be the data

630
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:06,559
center deferral resolution. Mr. Ber, are
you starting yourself on this?

631
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:12,800
» Timmy, do you want to Timmy Dornberg is
our planning administrator and we will

632
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,839
jump in and uh attorney Steve Jobic will
help us out too.

633
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,960
» Tammy,
>> thank you chairman and board. Um over

634
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:25,040
the last several months, nine months was
mentioned um our department has been

635
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,760
reviewing with the planning commission
uh zoning ordinance text amendment which

636
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:34,880
is for um commercial storage operations.
And during that time, we had had um

637
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:40,000
several people come in and talk to the
planning commission about data centers

638
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:45,119
and the desire to um prohibit data data
centers in our county or severely limit

639
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:49,680
them and where they could go. So um over
the course of that time, we we at the

640
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:55,440
planning commission level have reviewed
some documents that were prepared by our

641
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:59,359
legal by our um legal council and we
plan to go into close session to talk

642
00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:04,319
about that in September. We've also
reviewed information prepared by our

643
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:08,960
planning and zoning consultant um with
regard to possible standards to enter

644
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:16,720
into our zoning ordinance. At our last
meeting in um in August, uh the planning

645
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:21,359
commission made a um motion to recommend
that this county board of commissioners

646
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:25,440
consider a resolution deferring reviews
and decisions regarding uh data centers

647
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,040
to allow time for the planning
commission to review our zoning

648
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:34,079
ordinance and make recommendations to
this board. Um that was passed

649
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,760
unanimously 7 to zero by the members
that were present at that meeting. I did

650
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:41,599
want to mention that I received several
calls today and I told these people that

651
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:47,040
I would pass along um they're opposed to
data sensors in EMT County. That would

652
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:53,760
be Susan Schulty, Julia Fogerty, Ran
Markwart from Alansen who um supports

653
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:58,720
the moratorum so-called um John Eli from
Paskki who is against data centers and

654
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:03,359
Chris Elki as well. So, um the
recommendation from the planning

655
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:07,599
commission is to um pass a resolution
deferring any decisions or reviews of

656
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,319
data centers for a period of time while
we can review our our zoning ordinance

657
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:18,880
and and determine options for regulation
or not um within the zoning ordinance.

658
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:25,760
» Questions for Mr. Dorber?
So uh I guess Tammy my understanding of

659
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:29,280
this uh resolution is that uh we don't
have any applications for data centers

660
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,680
now but we want to be prepared for when
we do. Is that what I understand

661
00:54:31,107 --> 00:54:33,920
[laughter]
how I read it and understand it?

662
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:38,559
» Yes.
>> And uh

663
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:42,400
I also understand that the planning
commission needs this time. So we're

664
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:46,480
going to pause any applications or
reviewing applications until we can come

665
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,800
up with some sort of ordinances in
effect. Is that am I understanding that

666
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:52,160
correctly?
>> That is correct. Yes.

667
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:58,240
» Okay. Thank you. Yes,
>> I can. Mr. Chair, just just very briefly

668
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:03,200
my mic on
>> red light.

669
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:07,920
» Yes. Okay. Um if the decision is
definitely deferred, no decisions can be

670
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:11,599
made regarding data centers if you adopt
this this resolution.

671
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:15,280
» Um go ahead.
>> That should deter anybody applying

672
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:22,559
because why would you apply if you're
not going to get a decision? But um you

673
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:27,119
know it it if a party does want to apply
and run the risk that they're they know

674
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:32,319
they're not going to get a decision on
it, they can submit an application. Uh

675
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:37,119
the question then becomes what are they
going to submit for? Because part of the

676
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:42,000
discussion is the ordinance doesn't, you
know, has issues with it in terms of

677
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:47,839
does it really apply to data centers? do
we as a county have regulations in place

678
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:53,040
that will apply to them? Um, so I would
think any potential property owner uh

679
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:57,200
wanting to submit an application would
have that same question and it would be

680
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:02,079
in their interest to wait until they see
what the regulations uh or where the

681
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:07,680
county is going to come down on this. Um
so to the point about being prepared,

682
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:13,200
yes, need to get ourselves prepared if
um you know, if the industry does choose

683
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:17,599
to come to Emtt County to we're trying
the idea is to get ahead of it and and

684
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:23,839
get yourself prepared. Get your
regulations in place uh and not take any

685
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:29,920
action on anybody's requests if they do
come along and request it. It says

686
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:34,240
you're not going to take any actions. Um
and uh uh I I'll leave it at that for

687
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:38,319
now because I just wanted to make that
clear in terms of that possibility I

688
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:42,960
suppose.
>> So this really is a proactive stance

689
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:49,599
that the uh that the planning commission
is taking in anticipation of the of the

690
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:55,680
possibility of applications and the
figure taking the time to figure out the

691
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,760
best way to deal with that and to uh
>> that's correct

692
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:02,240
» see where we go with that. Okay. Yeah.
And and if I may really quickly follow

693
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:07,839
up and I Yeah. Just to kind of
>> um maybe help explain this a little bit

694
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:14,720
further. The the resolution uses the
term defer uh on purpose um because it's

695
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:18,400
a procedural thing. A lot of uh people
around the state you other communities

696
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:24,640
have used the term moratorum. I'm not
sure what they're doing in terms of

697
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:30,880
their what they're adopting. Um this is
not called a moratorum. This is a

698
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:35,680
deferral of action. Uh I'd liken it to a
procedural action that you sometimes do

699
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:40,880
which is you defer decisions sometimes
for a month, sometimes for two or three

700
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:44,799
months to get more information. That is
kind that is basically what this is.

701
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:50,480
You're deferring it to a point in the
future. It's temporary in nature to

702
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:56,160
allow you to get the information uh and
in this case possible legislation to be

703
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,119
prepared to address the issue. So I just
wanted to put context

704
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,480
» that whole process will go through the
planning commission and come back

705
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,359
» with the public hearing too.
>> Yeah. Okay.

706
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:10,000
» Any other comments?
>> Tammy, is March 1st enough?

707
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:15,760
» Time will tell. It took a long time to
get where we are with um commercial

708
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:20,799
storage operations and we will be asking
for additional time this evening, but um

709
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:24,079
that was the recommendation of legal
counsel.

710
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,880
» You don't feel we could extend it
further out? Yeah. What what I would

711
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:34,559
recommend and and there is some case law
in Michigan on um well the case law

712
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:39,200
talks a lot about moratoriums. This is a
I think it's a little different.

713
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Regardless, the case law talks about uh
as quickly as possible and as you you

714
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,880
can't delay action on the legislation
because you're dealing with private

715
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:52,640
property rights, right? And and that's
significant in America. That's

716
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:57,280
important. uh you're the government and
you're affecting private property rights

717
00:58:54,319 --> 00:59:02,960
by doing this. So what the case law says
is you have to move fast as fast as you

718
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:08,000
can under the circumstances. This is a
big project. It's a big undertaking. I

719
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:13,119
agree. [clears throat] Um I recommend
starting with 6 months, working as fast

720
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:17,599
as you can, getting as far as you can.
And if you can't get there, extend it

721
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:20,559
for another three or maybe even a
six-month period, depending on where

722
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:26,079
you're at at that point. take the
temperature again. Uh we really uh try

723
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:31,040
to keep it within a year as best we can.
I I recommend starting with a year um

724
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,480
just to keep keep the pressure on, keep
it moving. So if there is a court review

725
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,000
of this for some reason, and I hope
there's not, and I don't expect one, but

726
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:42,000
if there is, we want to be able to
>> to show the court we are moving fast, as

727
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,359
fast as we can.
>> And Mr. Chair, if I might, we have been

728
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:49,359
providing information to the planning
commission over the past several months

729
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:55,359
so that they are equipped with some
background and um we will be talking

730
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:59,440
with legal counsel uh on certain um
specific as aspects that were brought up

731
00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:02,079
during the public meetings that we've
held.

732
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:07,680
» All right.
Any questions? If not, what's the

733
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:09,680
commission's?
>> Mr. Chair, I'm prepared to make a

734
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,040
motion.
>> Go ahead.

735
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:16,559
I move that the Emtt County Board of
Commissioners adopt the resolution

736
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:21,760
temporarily deferring and postponing
decisions regarding the data center

737
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:25,599
usage until March 2027 as presented.
>> Second motion to second. Any discussion

738
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:32,400
on the motion?
>> So I just Yeah, Chair. So I've had uh

739
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:37,839
overwhelming uh contact with
constituents this week, emails and phone

740
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:43,040
calls and whatnot. uh people in
opposition to data centers in EMTT

741
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:49,280
County. Uh I haven't heard one person
that's contacted me that said, "I want a

742
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:53,280
data center." And uh usually when we
have something that's

743
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:59,599
brings a lot of public interest to this
board, I hear people that have one idea

744
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:04,000
and another idea. And so I see this
motion as the best way. I'm also share

745
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:09,359
the sentiment of all the people that
called me this week and I see this

746
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:15,040
motion as the best way to prepare for uh
what could come to Emtt County and

747
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:20,720
that's why I support it uh as a
potential um

748
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:25,839
if these things are coming to the to
Michigan I think we need to be prepared

749
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:33,520
to to uh deal with it.
>> I agree. I have another thought. I

750
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:37,680
piggyback on what Matt is saying is that
I haven't had anybody contact me and

751
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:44,319
say, "Yeah, let's do this." Okay. I've
had I've had everybody contact me and

752
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:49,359
say, "No." With an exception, we some of
them are saying, "We need more time to

753
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:55,839
decide and make sure you take time to
get it right. This is something we don't

754
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:59,920
want to regret um a decision making."
Tammy has done a good job in zoning as

755
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:06,079
keeping us updated the best she can.
She's very busy. Um, and

756
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,599
the planning commission is asking for
time to to make sure we get it right.

757
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:14,720
There's things that we won't be able to
do if we wait until the application is

758
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:18,640
filed. So,
>> just to clarify, Brett, when you said uh

759
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,520
you hadn't had anybody that contact you
and said, "Let's do this." Meaning you

760
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:24,240
hadn't had anybody contact you that
said, "Let's build a data center." Is

761
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:26,079
that kind of Yeah. Okay. Right. All
right. I would,

762
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,480
» you know, we got people out there are
saying they're calling me saying, "Hey,

763
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:35,520
we don't know if I they believe
everything they're hearing. They want us

764
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:43,599
to investigate it and make an educated
decision." Um, uh, but overwhelmingly,

765
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:47,359
as I think the rest of you, um, has been
anti-data center.

766
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:52,559
» Thank you.
>> I'm on comments. I'm on the Northern

767
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:57,680
Michigan Counties Association meeting
and this this was a big topic u at our

768
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,200
last meeting. So,
>> a lot of the northern counties are are

769
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,040
dealing with it.
>> I just um more for the public because I

770
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,640
think you all know understand and
realize this, but um this would impact

771
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:12,480
only those townships that have county
zoning. So, there's four townships that

772
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:16,319
have their own zoning. Resort, West
Travers, Little Travers, and Pleasant

773
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:20,640
View. And then the cities of Paskki and
Harbor Springs and the villages of

774
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,760
Pelston, Alansen, and Meno City also
have their own zoning. So this would

775
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:26,400
only apply to those townships that have
county zoning.

776
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,240
» So those townships and cities would have
to pass their own clause.

777
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:34,000
» That's correct. They operate under their
own zoning ordinances.

778
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:40,079
Steve,
>> just um thought it might be helpful to

779
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:43,520
also mention here um in this forum that
um

780
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:48,480
your power to zone comes from the state
of Michigan, right? The state through

781
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,880
legislation grants you the authority to
zone. That also comes from the federal

782
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:57,920
government zoning or actually at the
100redy year anniversary of a US court

783
01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:02,799
of court uh supreme court decision that
said zoning as long you can zone you can

784
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:09,760
regulate private property with zoning
ordinances. So 2026 is actually 100

785
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:15,200
years 150 years before that
um there were a lot of arguments saying

786
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:19,200
you can't regulate people's right to use
property. So, we're 100 years in and it

787
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:23,599
comes from the state and it also comes
from the federal government. I give that

788
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:27,520
backdrop because right now I do know
that there is some legislation in the

789
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:32,079
state of Michigan and Lancing that is
looking at adopting some state

790
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:36,559
legislation addressing data centers.
I've also heard I have not seen but I

791
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:42,960
heard there's um proposals for some
federal legislation as well. Um, so your

792
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:50,000
your legislators at at the county level,
but there is there your legislators in

793
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:56,720
Lancing and and in DC are uh uh uh
considering legislation that

794
01:04:52,880 --> 01:05:02,000
is intended to help uh support and and
regulate at that um I'll just say higher

795
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:08,319
level, okay? Because they do authorize
you to to zone. are looking to establish

796
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:13,599
state and perhaps federal laws that are
going to support regulations at the

797
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:20,640
local level that address a lot of the
issues being discussed, uh, energy, uh,

798
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:24,640
water, uh, noise and so forth, they're
looking at that. So, um, you know, to

799
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:28,720
the extent there's any communications
with your legislators, that's something

800
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:32,000
that you can communicate to them as
well. And, and of course, the

801
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,559
constituents can as well. So, want to
mention that. So then it's necessarily

802
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:41,280
not true that the state could overrule
any decision that we would possibly make

803
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:46,960
concerning data centers because we're
allowed to legislate our own zoning as

804
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:50,559
of now. Correct.
>> Well, not tonight, but

805
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,200
» no, I know I' I've heard rumors probably
these are around the country, not

806
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:58,799
necessarily to missing it, but I thought
one was basically where the state

807
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:02,720
overruled a local. But that could happen
of course that where they give where

808
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:07,039
they give authority to you they can also
take away authority or preempt authority

809
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:12,400
and we've seen that there's a lot of
preeemption talk in lancing and whatnot

810
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:17,920
uh preempting local zoning to some
extent and it has happened in some areas

811
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,119
um and uh so that is yes that is
possible. I haven't honestly haven't

812
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:26,079
heard about that. I've heard the other
direction where it's legislation to to

813
01:06:23,839 --> 01:06:29,920
more positively impact and support. I
hope that's the way it goes and we get

814
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:33,599
there before that I think could happen.
Yeah.

815
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:40,240
» State law would not necessarily
supersede whatever we decide to do or

816
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:43,599
» not I'm sorry if I can not necessarily
but it could it could.

817
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:46,400
» Yeah, I would expect it would I guess. I
don't know

818
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:49,760
» what I what I understand at the state
level is it's not intending to supersede

819
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:56,559
but support.
>> Okay. and ena and further enable provide

820
01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:02,160
some some uh strength at the state level
addressing you know requiring issues

821
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:06,400
like water and energy especially to be
addressed properly. So uh you know

822
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:10,799
environmental concerns and things of
that nature and and also specifically

823
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:14,559
not preempting.
So, but it could happen that they could

824
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:18,160
go a different route and end up taking
total control over it and preempting the

825
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,720
local regulation. And if you had
ordinances in place at that point, they

826
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,799
would be superseded if they contradicted
with the state law. We just don't know

827
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:27,280
what's going to happen.
>> Yeah.

828
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,720
» But a lot has to do as everybody knows
with communication with legislators and

829
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,280
whatnot.
>> All right. So, yeah. So, my thought is

830
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:39,081
I'm all these people came here to talk
to us tonight, but it doesn't sound

831
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:41,680
like, you know, we can make
[clears throat]

832
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:45,839
uh I support the resolution. We'll be
voting on that here in a second, but

833
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:51,119
then there's several several other
governmental ent entities within our

834
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:57,440
county that this won't be affected by.
So, all of you need to realize that

835
01:07:54,480 --> 01:08:03,039
that the decision we make here tonight
doesn't cover the whole county. So,

836
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:06,960
It gives a good framework for the other
areas. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm sure they'll

837
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:12,880
probably follow us or what we did
tonight.

838
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:15,760
» Any other questions or comments?
>> Roll call.

839
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,199
» Commissioner Laugh.
>> Yes.

840
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,480
» Commissioner Goody.
>> Yes.

841
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,920
» Commissioner Mes.
>> Yes.

842
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,159
» Commissioner Ginup.
>> Yes. Yes. [clears throat]

843
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,600
» Commissioner Gatowski.
>> Yes.

844
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,960
» Commissioner White.
>> Yes.

845
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:30,640
» Commissioner Coats.
>> Yes.

846
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:37,432
» We have put a temporary
deferring till March 1st, 2027.

847
01:08:35,412 --> 01:08:37,432
[applause]

848
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:50,239
Moving on, our second item of the agenda
is an ENF EMS ambulance purchase for

849
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:55,279
2027.
>> Yes. before you tonight. Uh the EMS has

850
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:59,920
gone out for an RFP looking request for
proposal looking for a new ambulance um

851
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:03,040
replacing [clears throat] an existing
one that is going to be coming out of

852
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:10,560
service. It's already had a remount and
it is done with its life. Uh proposals

853
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:16,000
uh were out and um McQueen Emergency
submitted the lowest uh price proposal

854
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:19,000
that was awarded. Their cost came in at
$319,881

855
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:27,279
for the for the uh truck that is similar
to the fleet that we currently have. Um

856
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:31,600
this is in our 5-year capital plan as
you see that this is going to be in

857
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:36,159
budget 2027. The year I think we're
looking at the year build time. Is that

858
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:38,799
right? Brian Patton, our EMS director is
here tonight.

859
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:42,799
» Yeah. We're not expecting this to come
in until um late spring, early summer of

860
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,319
next year. um which is actually a little
bit more ahead of what newer uh in the

861
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,880
pipeline now. If we were to place a
brand new order now without going

862
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:52,960
through a process of reaching out with
RFP, we'd be looking at three years. Um

863
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,840
so this is um thankfully with
administration, everybody, we have a

864
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:59,280
pretty good 5-year plan of how to keep
our fleet running and reliable. And this

865
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:03,120
kind of falls within that as far as our
adapting to make sure that happens.

866
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:07,760
» And you see exactly what he says. We're
p purchasing these a year or two years

867
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:12,080
in advance um and budgeting. The money
is there in our capital plan. Um, but

868
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:16,640
that way we get it when he needs it.
>> Thank you. Any questions for Dave

869
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:20,080
O'Brien? Not we. We have a motion.
Chair, I'd like to make the motion. I

870
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:26,679
move to approve the purchase of one new
type 3 ambulance from McQueen Emergency

871
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,679
in the amount of $319,881

872
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,840
pending a suitable agreement as
determined by the county administrator

873
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,360
and civil council and authorize the
county administrator to execute the

874
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:38,400
agreement on behalf of the county.
>> Second.

875
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:43,360
» Motion support. Is there any discussion
or questions regarding the motion or the

876
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:46,000
purchase?
Hearing none. Roll call, please.

877
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,280
» Commissioner Gup,
>> yes.

878
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,719
» Commissioner Mes,
>> yes.

879
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:50,080
» Mr. Gowski,
>> yes.

880
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,600
» Mr. White,
>> yes.

881
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,199
» Mr. Gooding,
>> yes.

882
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,560
» Mr. Lone,
>> yes.

883
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,400
» Mr. Coats,
>> yes.

884
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:02,480
» Motion carries. Next item on the agenda
is the DPW resource recycling systems

885
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:08,400
change order. Mr. B.
>> Yes. as part of a state regulation, they

886
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:11,840
asked that we create a county material
management plan. It's something that's

887
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:16,800
been in the work and uh two of the
members sit on the DPW board, so they

888
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:22,560
can also talk about that. Um we've been
working on this plan um for quite some

889
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:27,600
time. It's a very lengthy procedure to
go through. Um they are requesting that

890
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:33,280
we do an extension until December. It's
up in excuse me until December. It's up

891
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:39,040
in uh in September. We've already done
one adjustment to that and this is fully

892
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:43,040
funded through um the Eagle Materials
grant that we get. We're looking at

893
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:49,520
extension that would um increase the
total by $39,600

894
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:53,679
and uh hopefully uh get this plan
completed. Uh it would address some of

895
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:57,199
the county's ordinance language and
review that to make sure we're in

896
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:01,600
compliance and help with any of the
revisions to the final plan that has to

897
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:06,960
be submitted to the state.
This was approved by the department,

898
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:11,679
excuse me, by the DPW board and looking
for approval tonight to do an extension.

899
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:15,120
» Any questions for Dave before I ask for
the motion?

900
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,360
» Hearing none, anyone wishing to make the
motion?

901
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:22,080
» Mr. Chair, I move to approve change
order number two with resource recycling

902
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:27,840
systems for continued materials
management plan support through December

903
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:32,080
31st, 2026 in the amount of $39,600
pending a suitable contract amendment as

904
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:35,520
determined by civil council and county
administrator and authorize the county

905
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,760
administrator to exit the amendment on
behalf of the county.

906
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:44,480
» I'll second motion in support. Any
additional questions or questions on the

907
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,360
motion?
>> Commissioner Coops. Yes,

908
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,880
» Commissioner Lomb.
>> Yes,

909
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,320
» Commissioner Gooding.
>> Yes,

910
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,760
» Commissioner White.
>> Yes,

911
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,960
» Commissioner Gowski.
>> Yes,

912
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:54,640
» Commissioner Mates.
>> Yes,

913
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:57,920
» Mr. Gil.
>> Yes.

914
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:02,080
» Motion carries.
Our next item on the agenda is the

915
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:04,800
Pelston Airport flat flat roof
restoration.

916
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:08,320
» As you know, we've been spending a lot
of money at Pelson Airport uh

917
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:13,760
remodeling. We did the shingle roofs and
what was left is a flat roof. Uh we did

918
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:19,120
go out request for proposals about 6,500
square ft of flat roof that is leaking

919
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:23,600
um and needs to be replaced. We received
three proposals. CNI Building

920
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:31,760
Maintenance Inc. submitted the lowest
proposal at $141,440.

921
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:36,800
Uh we have worked uh with CNI. Uh the uh
DPW, they've done three roofs from

922
01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:41,600
theirs. uh they've done good work and uh
we would like to move forward with the

923
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:50,960
uh proposal before you tonight. They are
asking for a 10% contingency of $14,144

924
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:55,400
in case any unforeseen damage comes up
uh putting the total price at $154,584

925
01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:01,120
not to exceed that dollar amount.
>> Questions?

926
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:04,800
» This money is in our capital plan and uh
is in our budget.

927
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:04,800
» Questions for Mr.

928
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:13,199
is there a motion?
>> I can make that motion. Chair, I move to

929
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:19,840
approve the Pelston Airport flat roof
restoration project with CNI Building

930
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:25,600
Maintenance Incorporated for $141,440
plus a 10% contingency for a total not

931
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:28,920
to exceed $155,000
or $155,584

932
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:35,280
pending a suitable agreement as
determined by civil council and the

933
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:39,440
county administrator and authorize the
county administrator to execute the

934
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,880
agreement.
I'll second that.

935
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:47,040
» Have a motion in support. Any just
further questions, discussion?

936
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,400
» Roll call.
>> Commissioner Mes,

937
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,760
» yes.
>> Commissioner Gowski,

938
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,199
» yes.
>> Commissioner Coats,

939
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:52,800
» yes.
>> Commissioner Lam,

940
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,080
» yes.
>> Commissioner Gooding,

941
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:55,440
» yes.
>> Commissioner Gup,

942
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,239
» yes.
>> Commissioner White,

943
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:02,719
» yes.
>> Motion carries. Next is the

944
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:09,840
consideration of an agreement regarding
the purchase of property vacant 10.2 2

945
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:14,719
acre portion of parcel 4410 3440002
in Pelston.

946
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:21,520
» Yes, the um village of Palson is uh
desires to purchase 10.2 acres of

947
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:28,080
property that we have in Palston. Um it
is part of a a 39 acre parcel that we

948
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:31,920
have in town. Uh what the village is is
looking at doing is swapping this piece

949
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:38,320
of property that the county owns with
the school system to uh build their

950
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:41,120
water system um on site. So the school
is looking for another piece of

951
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:46,400
property. They're going to the village
would take the 10 acres from the school.

952
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:51,679
The school in turn needs 10 acres to for
a future building site. Um we've looked

953
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:56,320
at this. Um the Pelson has received a
grant for $44 million to put in the

954
01:15:53,760 --> 01:16:00,640
water system to address the PAS in the
community. And this is a phase that

955
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:07,520
needs to be completed so that they will
be able to uh start the work and have

956
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:10,880
the property to put these wells on. They
have started they've done test wells

957
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,600
there, but this finalizes the agreements
and then the village would own that

958
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:18,640
property and the schools would own the
county's property.

959
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,920
» Well, you guys are laughing at me.
Sorry. I was just I was feeling

960
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,480
» temperature [laughter]
>> asking if it was just me.

961
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080
» Questions for Dave.
>> Did you have anything Steve you want to

962
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,320
add on this?
>> No. No. I think you covered it. Mr.

963
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:33,600
Boyer. So if there are any questions be
happy to answer it.

964
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:35,360
» This is the same property that you
reviewed with us.

965
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:38,360
» That's correct.
>> Yes.

966
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:43,159
» Any other questions? If not, there's a
motion.

967
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:51,120
» Mr. Chair, I move to determine that the
county sale or disposal of property

968
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:55,920
policies do not apply to this proposed
sale of property and to approve and

969
01:16:53,040 --> 01:17:00,080
authorize the county administrator to on
behalf of EMTT County. One, enter into

970
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:04,400
the real estate purchase agreement as
presented between EMTT County and the

971
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:10,520
village of Pelston involving the sale of
the identified 10.2 2acre portion of

972
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,520
parcel number 44-10-34-400-002

973
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:22,320
to the village and second take uh such
actions as necessary to complete the due

974
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:26,320
diligence contingencies under the set
agreement and three upon the

975
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:31,040
satisfaction of such contingencies
attend and execute all necessary or

976
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:36,000
required documents at the closing of the
transaction under the agreement and four

977
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:40,400
otherwise take such actions as are
necessary to fulfill the county's

978
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:43,840
obligations under set agreement for the
sale of the subject property.

979
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,199
» A second.
>> We have a motion in support. Any

980
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:51,679
discussion? [laughter]
>> Uh just that I'm really happy to see

981
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:56,239
progress on the Pelston water system and
moving forward. Long waited for you.

982
01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:00,719
» Thank you Dave for working on that.
>> Any other questions, comments? Call.

983
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,239
» Commissioner White.
>> Yes.

984
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:03,679
» Commissioner Gup.
>> Yes.

985
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:05,040
» Commissioner Goodning.
>> Yes.

986
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,400
» Mr.
Yes.

987
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,760
» Commissioner Coz.
>> Yes.

988
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,199
» Commissioner Gowski.
>> Yes.

989
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:15,600
» Commissioner Ms.
>> Yes.

990
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:22,440
Motion carries. Our next item is
uh the Emtt County Planning Commission

991
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:22,440
commercial storage text amendment.

992
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:29,120
» Start.
>> Oh, I don't know if I don't know if I

993
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,760
wanted to start out.
>> Can I have uh Tammy come up and give us

994
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,600
an overview?
>> Give us an overview, please.

995
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:43,360
Thank you, commissioners. Um, this is a
project that started in December last

996
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:48,080
year when the planning commission was
approached by a citizen asking that we

997
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:53,520
review the zoning ordinance regarding
definitions and land use regulations for

998
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:58,640
commercial storage facilities. And so,
starting in January, the planning

999
01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:01,679
commission um, as directed by this board
um, has been reviewing the zoning

1000
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:06,560
ordinance. Um we've reviewed other
ordinances within the the state. We've

1001
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:10,560
reviewed um recommendations from our
planning consultant. Um the planning

1002
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:16,080
commission went through different
versions of proposed texts line by line

1003
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:21,679
um June, July and two meetings in
August. And at the special meeting held

1004
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:29,440
last Tuesday, the planning commission
recommended that um that this board

1005
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:32,960
first adopt a the resolution extend the
resolution by 30 days that deferred

1006
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:35,920
reviews and decisions regarding
commercial storage uses pending

1007
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:42,960
completion of the zoning ordinance
review and amendment. Um extending it to

1008
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:49,120
October 1st. Um that motion passed but
it was on a 4 to3 vote. Um they further

1009
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:54,159
suggested or or made a motion and um it
passed on a 4 to3 vote as well to move

1010
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:59,920
forward a text amendment to you um
regarding commercial storage operations

1011
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:03,840
and that was in your packet. Um
concern that I have is that legal

1012
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:09,600
counsel has not thoroughly reviewed what
has what has been proposed both at the

1013
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:16,159
August 6th meeting and and at the August
11th special meeting. Um so I would ask

1014
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:21,120
that you consider adopting extending the
resolution to allow time for legal

1015
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:25,920
counsel to review and then further um
legal counsel has recommended that the

1016
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:29,600
the deferral be longer than just to
October 1st to allow additional time in

1017
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:33,520
case this board decides they wanted to
send the text back to the planning

1018
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:37,440
commission for whatever reason or if
there are other other considerations

1019
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:42,719
that have to be made. Um so that those
are the two recommendations that came

1020
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:47,199
out of the planning commission um at
their special meeting on August 11th. In

1021
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:50,960
your packets there were were compilation
of all of the meeting minutes um

1022
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:56,159
starting with the August 6th and then
the August 11th um public hearings and

1023
01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:00,719
then going back from December all the
way to the July meetings um this the

1024
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:04,800
public meetings that we held and the
public comments that were received um

1025
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:09,040
throughout that entire process. So that
is a 57page document that was included

1026
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:13,040
in your packet online. Hopefully you had
a time some time to look at that. Um

1027
01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:15,840
something else that we did for the
planning commission as we were going

1028
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:21,600
through the review process was we
applied the proposed text to several

1029
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:25,199
different um existing facilities within
our county and some that are not in our

1030
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:30,400
county as well that were provided. We
had pictures provided by um citizens

1031
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:35,280
showing um operations in other areas.
And so we provided graphics and and

1032
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:38,640
examples and those are included as well
in the PowerPoint presentations that

1033
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:45,199
were included in the packets for you all
to consider. So for tonight um the

1034
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:49,920
request is for consideration of the
resolution that would extend the time

1035
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:53,679
frame to allow continued review of this
um by by legal counsel.

1036
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:57,760
» And I have a couple questions.
>> Yes, sir.

1037
01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:02,480
» So couple things. If we approve the text
amendment tonight, could not the uh

1038
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:07,199
legal legal council review it after we
approve it tonight?

1039
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:14,800
» If you if we were to approve the
amendment amended text tonight,

1040
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:18,280
could the legal council review it after
we approve it?

1041
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,760
» I think I'd be happy to answer that.
Sure.

1042
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:26,159
» Certainly.
>> Well, certainly. Yes. We we could

1043
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:34,239
conduct that review, but you would have
adopted legislation and if any part of

1044
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:38,800
that zoning ordin the ordinance changes
uh need to be adjusted uh even a single

1045
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:43,120
word, it would have to start over all
over again. Uh definitely go back to the

1046
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:49,199
planning commission and go through a
public hearing process and so forth. Um,

1047
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:54,120
additionally,
you know, we we um,

1048
01:22:54,480 --> 01:23:02,800
as as you heard during public comment,
there is there are some attorney letters

1049
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:05,440
that have been provided. Uh, I don't
know if they've

1050
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,719
» two letters came in today. There was one
that came in at 2 o'clock, four o'clock.

1051
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:12,320
I think all the commissioners got both
of them. Um, the clerk has them and

1052
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,639
we'll enter that in. There's a lot of
questions within both of those letters

1053
01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:22,400
that uh need to be addressed and
reviewed. Um, and I think it's important

1054
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:25,840
that we look at this and have a re view
uh in place so we can go through this

1055
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:29,679
and look at it. There was changes made
up until the I think the August 14th

1056
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,560
date. There was
>> August 11th.

1057
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:37,040
» There's excuse me, August 11th. There
was I I don't know if you've had a

1058
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:42,000
chance to review everything. I know our
our legal department has not and and we

1059
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:46,239
would recommend giving time for that
review.

1060
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:50,320
» So the second question I had was at the
uh planning commission meeting special

1061
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:56,480
hearing
we put forth recommendations to come to

1062
01:23:53,199 --> 01:24:01,440
the board two different things. One to
defer or ask for an extension and the

1063
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:07,239
other was to approve. Are we not going
to even discuss approving it tonight? Is

1064
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,239
that what I'm hearing?

1065
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:14,960
what we have in there uh what we have
before you tonight is a deferral so we

1066
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:21,440
can have a thorough review of what's
been proposed and then the two the the

1067
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:25,600
information that we received today.
>> So the answer is no. We're not going to

1068
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:28,239
do both those. We're just going to do
the

1069
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:35,360
» I can't say what motion that you could
make. The motion that is presented

1070
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:40,238
tonight is for a deferral. Okay,
that's all I have.

1071
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:45,679
» Any other questions
[clears throat] for Tammy or Steve?

1072
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:52,800
If not, there's a motion before us and
Mr. Goody just mentioned also. So, what

1073
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:56,480
is a motion someone would like to make?
>> Mr. Chair, I move to adopt the

1074
01:24:54,480 --> 01:25:00,920
resolution extending deferral regarding
commercial storage uses as presented.

1075
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:08,320
I second that.
>> Motion to support discussion.

1076
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:12,480
» Uh yes, Mr. Chairman, I would like to
say a few things about this. I don't

1077
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:19,679
think this should be passed in its
current form as presented by the staff

1078
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:24,239
and um I'll give you a few examples.
EMTT County in my opinion is very

1079
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:28,560
difficult to do business right now and
and a lot of these rules and regulations

1080
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:33,679
that are proposed here would make it
much more difficult.

1081
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:38,480
And my first example here is indoor
lighting.

1082
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:43,679
This would regulate indoor lighting.
It would police indoor lighting. And I

1083
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:48,560
don't think we need to start doing that.
Lights have one main purpose and that's

1084
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:54,719
safety.
Article two limits loading docks to

1085
01:25:50,800 --> 01:26:01,080
three per facility. I'm not in favor of
that.

1086
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:01,080
Subsection 26.3.8

1087
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:05,560
makes it

1088
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:15,600
illegal to have any storage on land
properties bordering lakes and rivers.

1089
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:20,719
I think that's unreasonable. I think
there should be a reasonable setback and

1090
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:25,000
I suggested 200 ft
of subsection 2630B.1

1091
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:33,679
C
says that storage building should be one

1092
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:37,600
story. I agree with that
but I think the height should be

1093
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:42,719
increased from 20 ft and proposed to 24
ft.

1094
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:46,440
The next section,
subsection 2630B.1

1095
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:56,239
D limits the total floor space to 10,000
ft. I I think that should be doubled to

1096
01:26:53,520 --> 01:27:00,040
20,000 square ft.
Subsection 2630.B.2.B

1097
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:12,400
has a setback of 300 ft
on long state highways.

1098
01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:16,880
I think 150 ft plus the road railway is
more than adequate.

1099
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:22,000
The next section I want to refer to
2630.1

1100
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:27,440
screening
calls for continued screening for

1101
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:31,679
overhead doors over 80 square ft.
I think that would create a hardship on

1102
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:37,679
business and I don't make I don't want
to require all that screening.

1103
01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:43,920
It seems to me the county is going in a
direction of creating huge walls to hide

1104
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:48,800
garage doors and buildings storage
building.

1105
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:55,520
The next subsection I disagree with is
26.30

1106
01:27:51,120 --> 01:28:02,000
point G 2 point B wants people to uh
plant tall trees uh 12 feet high.

1107
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:09,600
uh big trees transplanted uh when
they're that big do not survive well.

1108
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:14,159
Uh point number nine I want to make is
forcing people to build solid walls to

1109
01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:21,760
hide buildings. I'm not in favor of
that. Uh subsection 2630.D

1110
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:26,880
D uh talks about the fire code, which
I'm in favor of limiting the storage

1111
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:32,080
buildings to one story, but it talks
about a fire lane needed all the way

1112
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:40,719
around the building of 25 ft.
I think 20 ft is more of an adequate.

1113
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:45,679
The next point I disagree with in 26.42,
all storage buildings shall be fully

1114
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:53,280
obscured from view from public roads and
homes. I don't think that's reasonable.

1115
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:58,320
Um, point number 12 I want to make is
not allowing any sales or servicing out

1116
01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:04,800
of storage buildings.
That would prohibit citizens from uh

1117
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:12,560
working on their projects, selling them
uh in the offseason like for example

1118
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:18,800
bolts and winterizing them. Uh point
number 13 I want to make is

1119
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:23,280
having property size of 10 acres or more
for storage buildings. I think four

1120
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:28,480
acres would be reasonable.
Uh setbacks.

1121
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:38,199
My next point is requiring a setback of
100 ft. I think 50 ft from existing off-

1122
01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:38,199
premise dwellings is more than enough.

1123
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:45,159
And the last point I want to make is in
subsection 26.09.3.8.5

1124
01:29:48,159 --> 01:30:00,800
uh limiting storage commercial buildings
maximum size uh acreage to u

1125
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:05,679
20 acres. I I think 10 acres is more
than enough. I don't think they had the

1126
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:11,120
uh lot has to be 20 acres or more in
size. 10 acres should be enough. I think

1127
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:16,719
this uh storage thing needs more uh
review, more work done on it and I'm

1128
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:20,960
very much in favor of extending this out
a little ways so we can do that. Thank

1129
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,920
you.
>> Any other comments?

1130
01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:28,639
» Yeah, I'd like to address some of those.
Um

1131
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:32,480
although I don't know what the use is to
address them tonight, but the lighting

1132
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:37,679
that he's speaking of as far as
regulating the inside, they're talking

1133
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:42,159
about how much is actually shining out
from those buildings. And where that

1134
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:48,800
came from was some of the examples that
uh the zoning department had showed

1135
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:52,639
showed us uh for some of their examples.
Uh the loading docks. Uh the reason that

1136
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:58,719
was limited to three, they're trying to
we're trying to uh differentiate

1137
01:30:56,159 --> 01:31:03,280
um the possibility of a commercial
warehouse actually being used as a motor

1138
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:06,800
freight terminal, which I think you can
see that a mortar freight terminal

1139
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:12,960
terminal would bring in a lot more
intensity in traffic, truck traffic. Um

1140
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:16,960
so that's why we went to three and four
loading docks and truck wells would be

1141
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:21,120
actually more of the water freight
terminal. As I said many times in the

1142
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:25,679
planning commission, I think I'd rather
uh sleep next to a uh commercial

1143
01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:32,719
warehouse as opposed to a a freight
terminal. Um he talked about the uh size

1144
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:38,239
of the uh building, 10,000 square ft.
That's a pretty good size uh warehouse

1145
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:44,639
for inside a commercial B2 district. uh
the 300 ft uh setback off of State

1146
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:49,120
Highway um that was designed, it wasn't
just pulled out of the air, that was

1147
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:55,199
designed so hopefully that B2 district
could also have a a business in front of

1148
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:59,840
it uh which would be a screening for for
that as opposed to a solid wall. So that

1149
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:06,159
would bring you could put a dentist
office or something on that. regarding

1150
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:11,520
that. Um when we talked about the uh the
height

1151
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:17,920
um the height the fire lanes that the
stories um fit went in fit right into

1152
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:24,960
the seven concerns that was brought
through on the public uh comments as far

1153
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:30,000
as public safety and welfare.
It was brought up to me last week, well,

1154
01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:35,840
you can have a a much taller hotel. If
you listen to the fire chiefs, a hotel

1155
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:41,360
has known causes in it. Whereas a
twostory, threetory, or a very tall uh

1156
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:46,560
warehouse, you don't know what's stored
in that. You could have lithium

1157
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:50,560
batteries, you could have a very intense
fire, and the fire chiefs have come

1158
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:58,080
forward worried about their fire safety.
So, um, there was a lot of consideration

1159
01:32:54,080 --> 01:33:04,239
put into this. Some of the, uh, comments
that I heard from tonight, it wasn't

1160
01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:10,800
just one, uh, business owner that
brought these concerns. We had a whole

1161
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:16,719
group of people ask us to look at this.
Um, and so I I I really feel like some

1162
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:21,040
some of us were getting misled just a
little bit. We had a whole group of

1163
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:25,920
different business owners come forward
and talk about the uses of the B2 uh

1164
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:32,239
districts.
Tanya here commented about that.

1165
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:36,239
Personally, I would think that there
might be regrets in some of the resort

1166
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:41,760
towns that put all kinds of buildings
along the waterfront years ago and now

1167
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:52,000
wish they had some better uses of that.
And these restrictions were put in this

1168
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:57,600
to address what we might need in 5 years
as opposed to having storage units all

1169
01:33:54,400 --> 01:34:04,639
the way down our our business corridors.
Um, personally, I I I was willing to uh

1170
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:11,480
put forth a motion to approve the tax
amendment as as uh sent up, but uh

1171
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:21,679
I guess we can't do that. So,
here I am.

1172
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:26,719
This was not a halfbacked baked idea.
We've been working on this for for

1173
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:33,199
months. Some people didn't get involved
into it until the third or fourth month.

1174
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:36,600
Um but uh that's not on any fault of the
planning group.

1175
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,400
Any other comments

1176
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:47,280
roll?
>> Commissioner Ms.

1177
01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:49,040
» Yes.
>> Commissioner Gowski.

1178
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,800
» Yes.
>> Commissioner Coons.

1179
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:52,480
» Yes.
>> Commissioner Laugh.

1180
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,679
» Yes.
>> Commissioner Goody.

1181
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:57,520
» No. Commissioner Gup.
>> Yes.

1182
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:01,360
» Commissioner White,
>> yes.

1183
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:05,760
Motion carries.
We take a break.

1184
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:10,040
» Mr. Gup has asked for a short break, so
we'll take a five minutes.

1185
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,480
Put your mic up.

1186
01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:52,331
I'm so tense. [laughter]

1187
01:36:02,756 --> 01:36:04,776
[laughter]

1188
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:34,679
I didn't put my seat in and it's so dry.

1189
01:36:39,436 --> 01:36:41,456
» [laughter]

1190
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,239
» Even if they did,

1191
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,800
I know, right? You don't have

1192
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:27,800
to learn my lesson.

1193
01:37:27,907 --> 01:37:31,960
[clears throat]
>> Feel like I'm sheltered. investments.

1194
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:42,000
» That's true.
>> I know. You got to keep up.

1195
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:46,520
» No tie though.
>> I'm not allowed to wear a tie.

1196
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,520
» You're not.

1197
01:37:50,832 --> 01:37:52,852
[laughter]

1198
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,367
I did this when I graduated.
[clears throat]

1199
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:11,639
» I bet it included a tie when you
graduated.

1200
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,639
» I like it much better than

1201
01:38:17,688 --> 01:38:19,708
[clears throat]

1202
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,239
All right, I'm going to call this back
into order.

1203
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,639
» Yeah.
>> And we'll move down to our appointments.

1204
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:46,159
The first is advisory committee on aging
resignation. We need a motion to accept

1205
01:38:43,199 --> 01:38:51,320
Martha Lancaster's resignation.
So moved. Have a motion to support.

1206
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:57,520
» Thank you, Brian. Y we have a motion to
support. Any discussion hearing? None.

1207
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:02,239
All in favor say I.
>> I.

1208
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:06,000
» I. Opposed. Same sign. Next we have a
Veterans Affair Board resignation from

1209
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:10,159
Ryan Bachelor. Need a motion to accept
Ryan's resignation. I get motion. Have a

1210
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:13,600
motion. So support.
>> Support.

1211
01:39:10,639 --> 01:39:19,199
» We have support. Any discussion?
>> All in favor say I. I.

1212
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:25,280
» Oppos. Same sign. Now Veterans Affairs.
We have a we have an appointment of

1213
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:28,719
Casey Noiki or Sherry Marshall. What's
the pleasure of the board?

1214
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:32,080
» Aren't those reappointments?
>> Uh, chair, there's actually Sher

1215
01:39:30,719 --> 01:39:33,920
Marshall's a reappoint.
>> Okay.

1216
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:37,440
» And then there's an additional opening
due to Ryan Bachelor's resignation.

1217
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,400
» Okay. So, Casey and Sherry are
reappoints.

1218
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:43,440
» Casey is not currently on the board.
>> Casey's currently not on, but he would

1219
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:48,080
be a replacement for
>> We have two spots if you choose to. Yes.

1220
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,239
» So, do we have a motion to approve Sher
Marshall's reappoint?

1221
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:53,360
» Also,
>> move support.

1222
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:56,880
» I'll support.
>> Motion support.

1223
01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:02,880
» All in favor say I.
>> I. Oppose. Same sign.

1224
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:07,280
» Is there a motion to appoint Cary Niki
to the board of veterans?

1225
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:13,119
» I I'll second it. [clears throat]
>> Motion and multiple support pick one.

1226
01:40:10,639 --> 01:40:16,239
» Any discussion?
>> Hearing none. All in favor say I.

1227
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:21,360
» I. I
>> oppose same sign.

1228
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,600
We have Courtney Graham appoint this a
reappoint.

1229
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:27,840
» Yes, sir.
>> We have a reappoint of Courtney Graham

1230
01:40:25,199 --> 01:40:31,119
to the historical commission. Is there a
motion to reappoint?

1231
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:34,880
» I move to reappoint Courtney Graham to
the historical commission

1232
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:39,600
» and I'll support. Have a motion to
support. Any discussion on the motion?

1233
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:43,199
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
>> I.

1234
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:47,199
» Post same sign. That is our
appointments. We're done communications.

1235
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,679
Are there any other communication
besides the two attorney letters that we

1236
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,239
received?
>> No, those were submitted to the clerk

1237
01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:58,320
and they'll be available.
>> They'll be in the record. Is that right?

1238
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:01,840
» All right. Committee reports.
Mr. Lbomb, start us off.

1239
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:05,920
» Okay.
I attended the uh regular meeting the

1240
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:10,960
Emtt County Planning Commission here
August 6 7 p.m. There was a lot of

1241
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:19,360
discussion on the storage text
amendments articles 2 8 11 14 18 and 26

1242
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:27,760
the first hearing uh some talk about the
master plan a lot of talk about data

1243
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:34,560
centers especially from the um audience
and we called a special meeting for

1244
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:38,159
August 11th here at 7 p.m. attended that
meeting. Also,

1245
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:44,080
there was a lot more talk on commercial
storage text amendments

1246
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:48,840
for those articles I mentioned already.
A lot more talk about data centers.

1247
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:56,800
On Tuesday, July 28th
at 9:30 in the morning at the Pollson

1248
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:02,239
Airport Terminal Building, I attended
the airport committee meeting

1249
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:07,595
and we heard from a member of the
public. his name was Scott. We uh

1250
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:12,239
approved the minutes from the previous
[snorts] June 23rd meeting. Uh we

1251
01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:18,400
learned that passenger arrival and
departure was down 11% this year from

1252
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:23,119
last year. Uh we also talked about
projects need to be bid out if they're

1253
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:30,639
over $25,000.
Uh the taxiway project is in progress

1254
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:35,600
right now. Uh we uh received a new
runway sweeper and snowb blower

1255
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:41,440
and after the meeting we went over and
inspected those and those are two very

1256
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:47,520
big impressive machines. They were made
by the um company that used to be called

1257
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:52,639
Oshkosh out of Oshkosh Wisconsin. They
are famous for very rugged dependable

1258
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:58,239
equipment but not operator friendly. Uh
the company has been taken over by a

1259
01:42:54,639 --> 01:43:03,280
company called MB now and they are uh
trying to make their equipment more uh

1260
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:07,440
operator uh friendly.
And the next meeting here is next

1261
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:13,040
Tuesday uh for the airport at the
airport uh conference room upstairs at

1262
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:20,239
the airport. That's also at 9:30. That's
on Tuesday, August 25th.

1263
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:24,239
And then I attended the um Paradise Lake
Improvement Board regular meeting August

1264
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:33,040
12th
uh up in Karp Lake at the township hall.

1265
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:38,239
And we heard correspondence. We had a
Gmail from Jackie Cameron. She wanted to

1266
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:44,960
know what chemicals are used in Paradise
Lake to control the weeds. And the

1267
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:50,480
answer was uh two different ones. Duquat
and Pela core. We heard the treasures

1268
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:53,480
report. We have a balance up there of
$161,582.

1269
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:02,960
And I might mention one more thing about
these chemicals and these weeds. Uh they

1270
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:07,280
are very selective herbicides. They do
not kill good weeds, only the bad weeds

1271
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:12,400
that we are trying to get rid of. and
they have are approved by the EPA.

1272
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:17,679
Uh there was a lot of talk about the
audit. We've done an audit every year

1273
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:22,080
for uh several years and each audit
costs $7,000

1274
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:28,080
and the auditor that we've been using,
Rasmusen from Bataski here, is no longer

1275
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:35,440
able to continue in that capacity. Our
chairman Paul Tiki spoke to Dan Smith

1276
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:43,040
uh out of Shboen. He said that by state
law we do not need to do an annual audit

1277
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:48,320
um anymore and that he suggests that we
for what few invoices we have we just

1278
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:52,560
keep a hard copy in the office and they
are available for inspection by the

1279
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:59,119
public
and the um lake was treated this year 69

1280
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:03,600
acres were treated for the mill for we
we eat very successfully that cost us

1281
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:09,040
$47,495
5 hours and a survey done after that

1282
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:14,480
showed that there was a high rate of
kill very successful and very few weeds

1283
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:18,719
are left and there will be no need for
second treatment this fall as needed

1284
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:24,000
sometimes
and at the close of the meeting one of

1285
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:29,679
the members Ardan Bachley that's been on
the board for many years and also is our

1286
01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:33,280
EMT county drain commission commissioner
expressed a concern with an old dam on

1287
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:37,440
Paradise
I did not know there was one up there.

1288
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:41,600
I'm not sure where it's at. It's maybe
in Shabboan County, but he said it's old

1289
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:46,400
and he's concerned about the uh
condition of it. And he said if that dam

1290
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:50,960
gives out that it would be very bad for
Paradise Lake. He's very concerned about

1291
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:59,360
it. And we decided to cut our meetings
down next year uh from 4 down to 2. They

1292
01:45:55,360 --> 01:46:03,280
will be May 12th and August 11th at the
township hall up there. They all start

1293
01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:08,400
at 7 o'clock
and if we need to add one more meeting

1294
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:12,400
we will. And that is the end of my
report.

1295
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:18,880
» Thank you commissioner. Commissioner
Mr. Lone Bomb took care of the planning

1296
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:27,119
commission report. Um and I do not have
a zoning board of appeals report as I

1297
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:30,560
did not attend then the appeals hearing.
Okay.

1298
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:34,800
Right.
Um, I attended the board of health

1299
01:46:32,719 --> 01:46:39,119
meeting on August 4th. I'm going to let
Matt uh do the report on that one. I was

1300
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:43,280
unable to attend the August 6th meeting
of the DPW.

1301
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:46,400
The solid waste committee meeting uh on
81 was cancelled. We're still waiting

1302
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:52,560
for information to come back from the
state on that uh road commission uh

1303
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:57,760
meeting uh on the 13th of August. They
discussed

1304
01:46:54,159 --> 01:47:01,600
uh uh M119 guardrail installation. Um
they're looking to award a bid on that

1305
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:05,679
later this year and that's not anything
to do with the the road collapse but

1306
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:12,080
that's other sections of guardrail on
the winding curve section part. Uh they

1307
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:16,159
discussed policy 100-021
which is a bidding procedure allowing

1308
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:20,639
the threshold to rise from 75,000 to
250,000.

1309
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:25,040
Uh they discuss and approve Brent to
sign the annual cert certification of

1310
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:29,204
employment conditions and also they
discuss large truck purchases that are

1311
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:32,800
upcoming. They're looking to get rid of
[clears throat] trucks that are over 20

1312
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:37,760
z 20 years old in their fleet and they
currently have three of those left.

1313
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:41,600
U by the end of August, Click Road
bridge will become a one lane till

1314
01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:45,440
they're able to rebid and repair that
bridge. They also announced that all

1315
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:49,760
bridges over 20 feet long will be
reinspected.

1316
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:53,920
Uh Bablos had a meeting this morning.
They're holding steady with occupa

1317
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:58,639
occupancy at 85% and because they're
still experiencing staff shortages. Uh

1318
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:02,960
they can't find good people that want to
work or won't work nights.

1319
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:06,480
The hospitals are main source of
competition for nurses and the college

1320
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:12,480
is the main source of nurses, but they
can't graduate those fast enough and the

1321
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:16,320
waiting list is is growing. Uh they were
notified last week that starting October

1322
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:19,600
1st, the state and federal reimbursement
was changing with the feds no longer

1323
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:26,159
contributing and the state changing
their formulas.

1324
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:30,719
Uh so uh they're scrambling right now to
figure out uh

1325
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:36,159
what their uh income is going to look
like for the rest of the year. That's

1326
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:40,000
takes effect the 1 of October. Uh they
continued with their strategic planning.

1327
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:43,600
Uh
uh they have had good they had good

1328
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:47,679
discussions this morning regarding who
they serve, services they provide,

1329
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:51,760
capacity to serve and what the future
holds.

1330
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:58,000
And that is all I have for reports.
Thank you, Mr. Get.

1331
01:48:54,800 --> 01:49:09,600
I attended on August 13th the the TAC
meeting for the uh uh communication for

1332
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:17,760
our 911. Um and uh it was a quite a long
tack meeting talking about uh getting

1333
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:23,360
closer to making everything go live with
this new software equipment. And one of

1334
01:49:20,639 --> 01:49:29,119
the big things was they're uh turning
off at 30 days the modems that are not

1335
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:37,920
registered
uh through 911. So uh there may be some

1336
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:42,960
some and all of the the agencies knows
that know this but there may be

1337
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:48,000
something that got missed. So we're
working forward to moving moving along

1338
01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:51,119
with this. So other than that, uh that
was uh and then I went to the meeting

1339
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:57,040
yesterday, but I'll let you give that
report

1340
01:49:52,639 --> 01:49:59,360
for the uh board meeting.
>> Okay.

1341
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:05,199
» Yep. That's very important.
>> Just adding on to Chuck's uh there are

1342
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:11,040
four uh afterhour gates that are used by
by pilots. Uh, and I guess four of them,

1343
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:16,320
uh, of the four, two are working better
than the other two, uh, we found out

1344
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:22,159
that we're going to be updating, uh,
those gates to Johnson Controls, uh, or

1345
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:29,679
we're moving away from Johnson Controls
and, uh, getting, uh, we got a quote for

1346
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:34,800
$20,500 to update those gates on on on,
you know, with with the new new company.

1347
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:41,440
The committee uh did recommend to
install cameras on all those gates. Uh

1348
01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:46,960
DPW was held uh August 6. Janna let us
know that DPW was fully staffed. The

1349
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:51,520
title project is uh being delayed until
September or October just to let the

1350
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:58,239
traffic uh come through. Uh the traffic
flow RFP is due in September uh along

1351
01:50:54,960 --> 01:51:01,760
Buzzview Road. The roof project part two
is currently going on with summer

1352
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:05,920
roofing. a lands and drop site is
staying at the fire hall, but it's being

1353
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:11,920
moved to the south of its current
location. Uh the RFP for the two open

1354
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:17,040
top row rolloff containers is due on
August 24th. Eagle will be shooting an

1355
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:21,076
educational video on the life cycle of
an aluminum can at the transfer station.

1356
01:51:19,119 --> 01:51:23,679
So that'll be kind of cool. Um
[clears throat]

1357
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:28,400
state of Michigan. So the house
household hazardous waste collection day

1358
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:32,880
is scheduled for August 22nd. There'll
be uh additional signing at the entrance

1359
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:37,520
to direct to direct traffic uh onto the
exit lane to the right. Janice said the

1360
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:44,080
prices of recycle materials are starting
to rebound. Uh parks and wreck was held

1361
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:50,159
Tuesday uh July 7th at the headlands.
Ryan announced that they hired Mike

1362
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:56,080
Casey as camp park camped park manager.
Uh Michael was a park ranger at Paskki

1363
01:51:53,760 --> 01:52:00,560
State Park. The crooked uh lock is now
fully staffed, but we will be losing a

1364
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:05,679
few of those to college in the upcoming
weeks. Both revenue expenses were down

1365
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:10,080
from 2025, but the parks and wreck is
doing very well. Local roofers started

1366
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:14,239
the repairs on the T- bar roof at the
fairgrounds, and the wind damage that

1367
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:17,440
occurred in November should be completed
in the next couple of weeks, and I hope

1368
01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:21,440
they're not done.
>> Uh the electrical upgrade is close close

1369
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:24,320
to being done. Uh
>> it's done.

1370
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:28,639
» It's done. Okay. Gibson Excavating
started the capital project repair and

1371
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:32,480
realigned the water
and electric and gray gray lines. There

1372
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:36,960
were seven events at the headline with
over 500 people attending those events.

1373
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:41,199
The lights out challenge was to take
place August 12th. Uh with the peak of

1374
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:47,199
the perse
meteor shower, there were 521

1375
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:53,599
reservations July at Camp Pacea. Staff
was able to install five more pro turf

1376
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:57,920
pads at the disc golf course. Staff will
be uh doing the final eight at the end

1377
01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:02,639
of the season. The crooked lock at the
time was 2 and a half inches above

1378
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:08,000
normal.
Uh no fair. We're going to meet next

1379
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:13,119
week. Uh Michigan Association of
Counties or Michigan Northern Michigan

1380
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:19,679
Counties Association. We held their
meeting uh at Rascam County and Zoom on

1381
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:25,199
August 17th. I attended via Zoom.
Representative John Roth uh was present

1382
01:53:23,119 --> 01:53:30,320
uh and he heard that the townships in
his district are concerned about the new

1383
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:35,360
zoning law and do not have landslit
ordinances. Uh Jeff Lawson, county

1384
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:40,719
administrator from Shboen, gave a
presentation in countywide zoning. Uh

1385
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:45,440
Dena gave an update on the budget. uh
Senate and the House uh gave their a

1386
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:50,639
bunch of amendments, gave the House a
bunch of amendments. The House will act

1387
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:55,679
on a final budget uh next week which
next week. Uh discussion ensued on

1388
01:53:53,199 --> 01:54:00,639
consumers energy selling the dams to a
third party and the next uh October

1389
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:06,800
meeting is going to be held touring and
data center down in Grand Rapids area.

1390
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:10,159
So I think I might attend that. Uh the
meeting was held uh the transportation

1391
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:15,520
asset management council meeting was
held via zoom. Uh I attended that uh

1392
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:19,599
written remotely. They also had it uh in
lancing. Uh council reviewed the data

1393
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:23,199
coming in for remote agencies through
the state. We also reviewed the

1394
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:28,400
priorities for the agencies to
concentrate on for 2027 and we discussed

1395
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:33,840
agenda items for the state meeting that
is coming up along with the water asset

1396
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:37,520
management council in Lemonia. That is
my report. Thank you, Commissioner.

1397
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:42,000
» Thank you, Brian. I'd like to confirm
that the uh disc golf pads, teapads at

1398
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:46,000
the uh turf pads are been very well
received by the disc golf community.

1399
01:54:43,599 --> 01:54:51,040
They're doing a great job. So, anyway,
uh the board of health met August 4th.

1400
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:55,679
The board received the annual report for
2025 from the health officer. Highlights

1401
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:59,360
included food safety inspections, the
Seal Michigan program which provides

1402
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:04,239
dental sealants to children through uh
school-based preventive care, the breast

1403
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:09,119
and cervical cancer control navigation
program which provides free or low cost

1404
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:12,719
lowcost cancer screenings and the school
health team prov uh which provides

1405
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:17,119
various important health services to
students. We also approved bills and

1406
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:21,360
employee expenses as recommended by the
finance committee. Uh there was nothing

1407
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:26,480
uh regarding the termination of the
contract with dental clinics north on

1408
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:31,440
the agenda. Uh but the process uh of
moving to in-house management of dental

1409
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:34,880
clinics is moving forward. Uh I continue
to hear from many individuals at the end

1410
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:39,679
of July and early August who are
concerned about the new situation. Uh

1411
01:55:37,599 --> 01:55:44,320
the community corrections advisory board
met August 13th. We received the fiscal

1412
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:48,239
year 2027
state grant award update. There was a

1413
01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:53,920
significant grant reduction
approximately 50% with an approved uh

1414
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:58,080
budget of 65,000. Grant funding was
approved uh for the same programs we

1415
01:55:55,920 --> 01:56:02,639
have currently which include cognitive
life skills, pre-trial supervision,

1416
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:07,360
practice assessment, and substance use
testing. The state recommended use of

1417
01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:12,000
local funding sources like PA2 funds and
opioid settlement funds to make up the

1418
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:15,599
difference. Uh the state has offered an
option to apply for more grant funding

1419
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:20,560
midyear if needed. So, we'll see how all
that works out. And the board approved

1420
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:24,480
the fiscal year 2026 third quarter
report as presented.

1421
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:28,800
That's my report.
>> Thank you, Commissioner Coots. Uh my

1422
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:35,119
reports, I'd like to thank um
Commissioner Lbomb and Gowski for the

1423
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:40,719
airport report and also Commissioner Mes
for the road commission. U area aging of

1424
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:47,360
Northwest Michigan met in Traverse City
on the 6th. They passed the multi-year

1425
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:51,280
2027-29 update which we addressed and
also had an annual code of ethics

1426
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:56,080
conflict declaration that we had to sign
with board members and we had a annual

1427
01:56:54,159 --> 01:57:02,639
fraud, waste and abuse training which is
required by the state of Michigan. We

1428
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:08,400
received a presentation on caregiver
case management program presentation and

1429
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:12,400
a program that area aging has which is a
you can contact them and they have

1430
01:57:10,159 --> 01:57:17,119
respit for caregivers. They say many
people take care of family members

1431
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:21,119
spouses and the caregiver needs to have
a break as well as the person that

1432
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:26,960
they're caring for and area aging has a
program that they can address that.

1433
01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:33,679
Uh, as Commissioner Gup said last night,
we met for a very short meeting of 911.

1434
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:38,320
Uh, main action item, we have a new
finance director, top person. We were

1435
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:43,280
lucky to get her. Uh, that put that put
the budget together for us, Mrs. Gibson.

1436
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:48,480
Uh, there was discussion and the the
operating budget for 2027 was approved

1437
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:53,920
with work is continuing on the capital
process. I'm happy to say that all three

1438
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:59,840
counties are working together to get
things going. So, we had two we had two

1439
01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:04,320
other action items. A hexon hexagon
change order number seven, which is

1440
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:09,760
basically changing the name of a
provider from one to another. And then

1441
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:15,280
we had a request from to go to the US
bank card uh away from Fifth Third,

1442
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:18,400
which is what we approved last meeting,
I think.

1443
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:22,080
» And uh we were out of there in a half an
hour.

1444
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:28,800
uh deferred compensation board met on
July 29th. Uh we got a second quarter

1445
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:34,800
fiduciary investment review. Uh we're
still doing very well with our with our

1446
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:40,080
uh investments in the in the uh in the
review.

1447
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:46,280
The other item was a 401A plan
which will come to the board in October

1448
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:46,280
or November to be adopted.

1449
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:57,239
I would comment that on July 29th we had
our first ever budget workshop for 911.

1450
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:57,239
I thought that was worth noting

1451
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,920
airports and direct

1452
01:59:05,119 --> 01:59:12,682
and that is my report. Uh we're now to
our second public comment. Anyone

1453
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:16,320
wishing to address the board? Mr. Morin.
[clears throat]

1454
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:21,360
» Thank you Mr. Chairman. chair, staff,
and the remaining public. Just a few

1455
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:25,360
comments based on some of the uh
comments that were made this evening. Uh

1456
01:59:23,817 --> 01:59:31,199
[clears throat] first of all, I'd like
to uh say with Mrs. Baldwin's comments

1457
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:36,000
about the B2 general uses, that's a
truth. We need areas for that kind of

1458
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:40,239
stuff. But I've also learned over the
years that there can be more than one

1459
01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:47,679
truth to a situation.
And the other truth is small businesses

1460
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:51,760
are dying. And um you look at the city
of Paskki, they have empty storefronts.

1461
01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:56,880
We have empty buildings along our
corridors. And another truth to that is

1462
01:59:54,639 --> 01:59:59,920
the type of growth we're getting. They
might be small businesses, but what are

1463
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:06,239
we considering small businesses? Are
they Taco Bells? Are they credit unions?

1464
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:13,360
What are they? And so we have market
demands and and the market that's

1465
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:17,920
another truth the market dictates uses.
Another truth people have property

1466
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:21,840
rights and these property rights have
been around for a long time and when we

1467
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:27,440
have drastic changes it does have
adverse effects on people. So that's one

1468
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:32,239
item. The second item I'll clear up the
whole data storage thing. Two different

1469
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:37,520
animals right? I mean we know I don't
know enough about data storage right now

1470
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:45,280
but it's obviously concern it's a huge
impact use commercial storage commercial

1471
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:49,520
warehouses self storage it's I think I
don't need to say it it's a low impact

1472
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:55,840
use they are two different animals
apples and oranges right simplicity

1473
02:00:53,679 --> 02:01:01,920
I do appreciate the fact although I
would prefer that we just allow the

1474
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:07,040
existing document to continue to live. I
appreciate the fact that we're going to

1475
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:15,360
have a period of time to further review.
I hope that that allows stakeholders at

1476
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:22,159
the round table, not just 3 minutes.
And lastly, to clear up any concerns of

1477
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:27,119
misleading information or comments.
It's in your packet. It's in the

1478
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:32,719
documents. It's a fact. There was one
person who spoke on behalf of the

1479
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:37,199
request in the December meeting. It's in
your documents.

1480
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:42,080
It's a fact in your documents that in
January the planning commission made a

1481
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:47,520
recommendation to this board. That was
all the discussion.

1482
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:52,320
It's a fact that in February and March
there was no discussion of anything more

1483
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:56,880
than a moment or two as staff was
compiling information during January,

1484
02:01:54,639 --> 02:02:02,000
February, and March. so that dialogue
could start. And it's a fact that when

1485
02:01:59,679 --> 02:02:05,920
that took place starting in April, I've
been to every meeting along with

1486
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:09,320
multiple meetings at this table. Thank
you very much.

1487
02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:15,400
Anyone else wishing to address the
board? Yes, sir.

1488
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:31,360
Uh David McBride, a 50y year almost 50-y
year resident of En County business

1489
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:37,040
owner. Um I have one clar clarification
I'd like to get and then I want to speak

1490
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:41,360
on a totally different subject. Um,
is the deferment just to review the

1491
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:47,679
proposed
amendment or is the deferment to allow

1492
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:54,800
the amendment that's been proposed to
get remodified and uh changed over the

1493
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:56,159
next two or three months?
Mr.

1494
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,320
answer that
>> the way I read it or

1495
02:02:57,679 --> 02:03:01,040
» that
>> well because you've got something you're

1496
02:02:59,679 --> 02:03:05,840
going to present to the legal council
and then they're going to make a motion

1497
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:07,679
or they're going to review it
and

1498
02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:10,239
» my understanding is they're going to
review it.

1499
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:12,960
» Okay. And then they'll present it to the
review to you

1500
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:17,119
» to board
>> to your to your board. So there won't be

1501
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:18,639
any more planning commission meetings on
this

1502
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,800
» unless the unless the attorney
recommends it go back to the planning

1503
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:25,280
commission.
>> Okay. So, we're we're waiting then for

1504
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:26,960
the attorney to kind of guide the ship.
>> That's what we asked for tonight,

1505
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:31,520
correct?
>> Okay. I just need some I you know, uh

1506
02:03:29,119 --> 02:03:35,280
this is a little new to me and um I just
want to make sure that

1507
02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:39,760
» how everybody presented it that they
agree on that. Switching gears

1508
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:44,560
completely,
Don Mapes brought up something about Bay

1509
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:50,159
Bluffs. I'm the chairman of the Friends
of the Hospice of Little Travers Bay and

1510
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:58,000
many of you know that I led the cause to
save the Highland Cottage.

1511
02:03:52,880 --> 02:04:03,520
We pivoted and thanks to Lisa Ashley and
so many great people in this community,

1512
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:09,599
we were able to provide the resources to
create those services at Bay Bluffs.

1513
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:15,520
And I want to thank everybody in this
community for supporting those services

1514
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:20,960
because end of life care is very
important to everybody and I'm so proud

1515
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:24,800
to be a member of this community and
we're going to continue to support Blade

1516
02:04:22,639 --> 02:04:29,599
Bluffs. We've got a lot of creative ways
that we're going to do it. But I just

1517
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:33,440
want to bring that out into light that
um things are happening that you might

1518
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:37,040
not know but they're positive things and
there's a lot of support for it. So,

1519
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,800
thank you and thank you for what you're
doing, too.

1520
02:04:37,679 --> 02:04:42,000
» Thank you for that update. I appreciate
it. Thank you.

1521
02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:45,000
» Anyone else wishing to address the
board?

1522
02:04:45,599 --> 02:04:52,080
» I'm sorry. Just one point of
clarification. Um, Commissioner Laugh

1523
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:57,760
Bomb indicated that the the draft
presented to you for the text amendment

1524
02:04:54,880 --> 02:05:00,719
was staff presented. This was not staff
presenting. It was the planning

1525
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:06,239
commission on a 4-3 vote that presented
that draft to you. So, I just wanted to

1526
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:11,119
make that point of clarification. Anyone
else?

1527
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:14,800
Why don't you pass the flat roof and
leave it?

1528
02:05:13,199 --> 02:05:17,840
» I think it was Pam's report.
>> Yeah.

1529
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:22,960
» Hearing no other public comment, the
next board of commissioners meeting will

1530
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:26,880
be held September 14th, 6 p.m. September
uh here in the board of commissioners on

1531
02:05:24,639 --> 02:05:30,719
Division Street. So motion to adjurnn.
>> Motion to adjurnn.

1532
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:33,719
» Second. Second. Motion. Second. We are
journalis.