1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,400 yeah welcome to the town of 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,920 emur town meeting for the evening of 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,799 Monday November 4th 4 00:00:14,799 --> 00:00:17,560 2024 at this time I'd ask you to please 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,400 silence your cell phones of any rings 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,800 beeps online gaming you name it if it's 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,880 going to make a noise just put on 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,199 vibrate thank you and then at this time 9 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:29,519 I'd like to please invite you uh to 10 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:35,430 stand for the Pledge of 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,640 Allegiance United States of America to 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,200 the Republic for which it stands one 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,120 nation God indivisible liy and justice 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,790 for 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,399 all quick announcement before we get 16 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:54,719 started uh commissioner Turnquist will 17 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,559 not be with us tonight um and I not sure 18 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:06,040 if Davis is on not yet okay if he if he said he was going to try to log in if 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,840 he does just um yeah let us know all 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,080 right thank you so future meetings 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,280 include a workshop meeting on November 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,159 18th um at 6:30 here in the town office 23 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:19,600 and on Zoom parks and recck committee 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,320 meeting November 19th at 7:30 here in 25 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,520 the town office we have the Christmas 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,200 tree lighting in the front of the osburg 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,479 community building at 6:15 28 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:33,439 coming up on I don't have a date 29 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,240 December 2nd December 2nd and then of 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,520 course after that uh Carriage House has 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,399 F festivities that you can go uh partake 32 00:01:41,399 --> 00:01:43,720 in after that we also have a Board of 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Commissioners meeting December 3rd 2024 34 00:01:46,759 --> 00:01:50,560 at se um 7M here in the town office and 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,079 on Zoom all right are there any other 36 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:56,320 meetings I believe there's going to be a 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,719 Planning Commission meeting uh November 38 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,719 25th at 7 39 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:09,150 p.m 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,720 okay okay so Planning Commission meeting 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,519 thank 42 00:02:13,519 --> 00:02:18,080 you all right any other meetings I'm 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,040 need to be announced I think I think 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,000 we're good all 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,239 right so moving on to approving the um 46 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:31,280 minutes for October 7th and October 22 47 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,640 um commissioner Hagen I believe you had 48 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,120 a a 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,879 request yeah I just had for two 50 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:41,760 Corrections if you go to page nine and 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 down at the bottom for agenda item five 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,550 that was a unanimous vote 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,159 5 54 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:55,599 um and next on page 11 it had me 55 00:02:55,599 --> 00:02:58,000 bringing the motion and seconding my own 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,030 motion 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:08,910 that's all that I 58 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,680 had uh what item I'm sorry it's right at 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,200 the stop on page 11 it's the very first 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,319 paragraph oh 61 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:19,440 gotcha yeah I brought the motion and 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,720 stck it into yes I see that you're you split yourself in half yes so the 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,959 only thing that I would say commissioner 64 00:03:25,959 --> 00:03:28,120 Bowman poot is I actually asked Sabrina 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,879 to go back and listen to agenda item 66 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:33,239 number five on the vote and commissioner 67 00:03:33,239 --> 00:03:36,280 Hagen you did not vote okay so because I 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,200 was surprised too and I had her go back 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,879 and listen to it so that part's correct 70 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:42,120 and then I didn't hear what you said on 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,080 page 11 on page 11 the very first 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,920 paragraph it has that I made the motion 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,640 and then I seconded my own motion oh 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,480 yeah that won't work so who who actually 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,560 made the motion you did okay Hoover okay 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,680 thank 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,400 you 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,239 um I did have a couple of um additions 79 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:07,760 that I wanted to send to town staff for consideration to add 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,799 into one on each set of the meeting 81 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:12,400 minutes so I was going to ask if we 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,239 could table these until next time until 83 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:16,880 I can get those I can collaborate with 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,600 Miss Willets um on adding that section 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,360 uh Commissioners how do you feel about 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,800 that fine with it I F okay is there a 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,800 motion to table the meeting minutes 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,280 until our next meeting so Mo thank you 89 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,199 is there a second I second thank you any 90 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,960 further discussion all in favor please 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:49,240 say I motion carries with four eyes and uh 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,520 commissioner turnquest is 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,919 absent 94 00:04:54,919 --> 00:04:58,800 right um then we are moving on to our 95 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,390 police report 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,880 good evening um still myself and Deputy 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,560 barow we used six holiday days of leave 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,160 uh during the month of 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,919 October um there's no Staffing CH 100 00:05:16,919 --> 00:05:19,880 changes myself and Deputy bartholo both 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,520 had inservice 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,160 training um we both had police one 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,039 training 104 00:05:26,039 --> 00:05:28,919 online we had no issues with the 105 00:05:28,919 --> 00:05:31,280 Halloween that was a good night I also 106 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:33,160 just wanted to note there I didn't have 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,240 this down here but um we are made aware 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,280 the crosswalks are really busy after 109 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:43,759 school which we have been patrolling 110 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:48,800 more um no Fleet issues with our cars we 111 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,680 handled 129 calls for service we had two 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,560 arrests 16 traffic 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,039 stops uh there was a large fight on 114 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:03,160 South SE Avenue at 133 South seatan 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,479 that's being handled uh I'm pretty sure 116 00:06:05,479 --> 00:06:07,680 the people that live there are 117 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 moving so that should be clearing up 118 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 soon uh there was another assault this 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,599 last Saturday and charges are being 120 00:06:16,599 --> 00:06:18,560 filed for first degrade 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,280 assault that's separate from the one at 122 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,080 133 it is okay this this the other one 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,520 was the same people but over in the park 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,639 I see so okay um and that is all I have 125 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,960 for you oh okay um couple questions um 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 as far as the traffic stops do you see 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,440 any pattern as as far as where 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,000 your 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,639 um most of our traffic stops are either 130 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:49,039 going to be on Main Street or South Sean 131 00:06:49,039 --> 00:06:52,440 or North Sean okay and it's most likely 132 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,029 for Speed uhhuh 133 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:00,680 okay yeah okay do you it can range from 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,479 all kinds of Lights Out I see all kind 135 00:07:03,479 --> 00:07:05,120 of different I'm sure like you're 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,240 probably pretty busy um do a lot of 137 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:13,840 speed enforcement though yeah and do you use radar um okay all right um 138 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,360 thank you any further questions I just 139 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,919 have one I'm sorry um I got email of um 140 00:07:20,919 --> 00:07:22,720 why I was at church 141 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,360 on Sun Sunday at 10:30 my a bike was 142 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,240 stol somebody wrote a bike to church and 143 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,680 it was stol the church I didn't know if 144 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440 you got that or not I what what church 145 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,599 is it St J's 146 00:07:36,599 --> 00:07:39,440 okay um oh Deputy Baro might have got it 147 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,800 might have been it's award I just got 148 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,680 the email tonight okay if you want to 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,599 forward that to me okay make sure we get 150 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:49,599 it yeah I had a couple parents reach out 151 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:51,960 um about the students in the alleyway 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,080 down here going to seat and and saying 153 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,039 that people tend to be running the stop 154 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:59,199 signs or speeding down there we were 155 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,400 made aare of that we've been doing some 156 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 CH stops 157 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,720 okay thank you thank 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,080 you okay moving on to the town manager 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,599 report Miss Willets good evening this is 160 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:16,639 the town manager report for September 161 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,240 I'll just highlight some areas related 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,120 to streets uh staff painted all the 163 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,680 parking meter poles on East and West 164 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Main Street uh they also mow trimmed and 165 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,319 weat killed along Irishtown Road uh the 166 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:29,039 area of Way Cross Court to Brookfield 167 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:31,560 Drive repaired two manhole Lids on 168 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,479 Timber Mill Run and the contractor black 169 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:36,519 topped a water leak patch on federal 170 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:39,320 Avenue as well as a sewer line patch 171 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,680 related to Parks staff trim tree limbs 172 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:43,399 and shrubs around the walking trail 173 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,360 bridge in Eugene Meers Park they also 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,279 washed and cleaned the picnic tables in 175 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,200 both uh Park Pavilions a staff worked 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,160 with the contractor to install the new 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 electronic locking doors on both Park 178 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,480 restroom buildings um they are 179 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,640 operational now uh related to Wastewater 180 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,000 R treated an average of 181 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 64165 gallons per day and consumed 182 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:28,350 roughly 183 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,760 283,000 rain um we at the time of this 184 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,079 report had a precipitation surplus of 185 00:09:35,079 --> 00:09:39,480 only .94 in and I don't believe we've re 186 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,720 we received much in October either uh 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,519 Rainbow Lake uh at the time of the 188 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:48,440 report was um two feet or two inches 189 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,720 below the spillway level at 16.4 it's 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,760 currently as of today at 16.3 FT uh 191 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,079 you'll see the well 192 00:09:57,079 --> 00:10:00,440 depths on page 20 related to water 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,399 production and 194 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:08,310 consumption uh we produce an average 195 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,630 284,807 196 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,120 196 which meant the amount of backwashed 197 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,150 water in the month of August was 198 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,079 8.22% with 70% coming from the wells and 199 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:24,120 30% coming from the lake uh trash pickup 200 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,839 will remain on Mondays during the month 201 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:27,079 of 202 00:10:27,079 --> 00:10:29,000 November you'll see some of the meetings 203 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 I had attended in 204 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,360 September um one thing staff work the 205 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,360 yard was dumpstered twice in it should 206 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,120 read September not November uh staff and 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,040 contractor fixed a water leak on the 8 208 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 inch Mainline on federal Avenue uh staff 209 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,680 continues to meet with the Rainbow Lake 210 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:47,040 Dam engineer to re review drawings and 211 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,959 Tow drains uh I believe we have a 212 00:10:49,959 --> 00:10:51,519 meeting with them coming up in the near 213 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:53,480 future to review their report and their 214 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,000 findings of all their 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,240 inspections uh staff assisted with a 216 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,399 water leak at Daughters of Charity 217 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:02,600 uh we completed the leadline service 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,680 inventory for all the town-owned 219 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,720 properties uh the town received heavy 220 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,680 rain in the month of September however 221 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:10,360 the capacity at the wastewater treatment 222 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,800 plant is doing very well we did not have 223 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,079 any overflows and temporary bypass at 224 00:11:15,079 --> 00:11:18,920 the pump station uh is performing well 225 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,959 uh the town received nine additional SM 226 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:24,160 smartman hole covers and our contractors 227 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,120 is finishing the backwash project at the 228 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,079 water plant and that's my report 229 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:31,600 um thank 230 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,870 you questions regarding the town manager 231 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,320 report um just a a quick little tiny one 232 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,959 with the locking doors that were 233 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:44,839 installed and now are operational I know 234 00:11:44,839 --> 00:11:47,079 you mentioned this before at a previous 235 00:11:47,079 --> 00:11:49,279 meeting and I forgot do we know the 236 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:51,079 times that it's open or what it's 237 00:11:51,079 --> 00:11:53,920 programmed to so right now it's program 238 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:01,279 from 800 a to 9 is 8 8 8 to 8 okay um in 239 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,519 the winter once we winterize all the 240 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:08,519 bathrooms it'll go back to 8 to 7 PM the 241 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,120 time change and then is that correct 242 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,560 Jess yes okay and then in the summer 243 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:17,320 they'll go to about 9:30 in the 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,079 evening okay all right thank 245 00:12:21,079 --> 00:12:23,600 you that's 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,320 exciting right any other questions 247 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,720 comments no okay we are moving 248 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,480 on um next is the grant ad administrator 249 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,880 report M 250 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Shaw um good evening this is the grants 251 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,560 administrator report as of October 29th 252 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:46,040 on page 22 in the packet I currently 253 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,839 have 16 active grants five grants 254 00:12:48,839 --> 00:12:50,720 waiting for an award or denial and then 255 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,959 three Grant applications upcoming or 256 00:12:52,959 --> 00:12:55,680 that I'm waiting kind of to open um a 257 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,079 few project highlights uh for the 258 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:00,199 bathroom concession stand project the 259 00:13:00,199 --> 00:13:01,720 prefabricated bathroom building is 260 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,279 scheduled to be delivered the week of 261 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:06,000 November 18th the site is ready for the 262 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,959 building aside from patomic Edison 263 00:13:07,959 --> 00:13:10,320 installing the Transformer the water 264 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 clarifier project on the contractor cono 265 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,040 is currently working clearing the site 266 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,639 for the Rainbow Lake parking lot 267 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:18,720 construction the site has been staked 268 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,279 and we are waiting for the contractor to 269 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:22,519 Begin work any day now when I spoke with 270 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:23,680 the contractor last week they were 271 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,040 waiting to do a preconstruction meeting 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,519 with Frederick County to finalize the 273 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:27,880 grading permit and then they're going to 274 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,800 break ground hopefully this this week um 275 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,480 for the replacement of the depal street 276 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,399 water line an update will be provided 277 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:36,839 during agenda item number one tonight 278 00:13:36,839 --> 00:13:39,560 for the welcome to Emmitsburg signs the 279 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:41,839 contractor is waiting on State Highway 280 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:44,480 to approve the sign design in issue a 281 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,000 community Gateway sign permit that which 282 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,720 was submitted last week the application 283 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,639 was um once the permit is issued it will 284 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:53,079 take approximately 10 weeks for 285 00:13:53,079 --> 00:13:54,720 fabrication 286 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,959 installation for the crary road Pump 287 00:13:56,959 --> 00:13:58,920 Station the pre-fabricated building has 288 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,519 been installed and the project is 289 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:02,399 expected to be completed by February 290 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:05,199 14th and then the Red Trail rebuild in 291 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:07,079 the Watershed the contractor has 292 00:14:07,079 --> 00:14:08,880 completed approximately 40% of the 293 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,880 project and is planning to take a break 294 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,000 during the rifle hunting season due to 295 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,720 hunting be being allowed in the 296 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Watershed the contractor will resume 297 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,839 after the holidays and construction will 298 00:14:18,839 --> 00:14:21,199 be completed by April 1st and then my 299 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:24,120 meetings I attended in October listed 300 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,440 are there any 301 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,399 questions oh um I do have a question but 302 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:31,120 I'd like to ask uh the other 303 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Commissioners first if you have any 304 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,160 questions um I saw that the meeting 305 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,240 about the electric vehicle Institute 306 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,759 possibility of adding level three 307 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:42,680 Chargers behind the town office I just 308 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,480 wanted to know what that was sure um 309 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,199 there was a grant due this week with 310 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:49,320 sustainable Maryland and one of the 311 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,120 possibilities we were looking at or one 312 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,279 of the projects was putting level three 313 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:56,720 fast charging stations um in town but 314 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,079 with I had so I had like an initial 315 00:14:59,079 --> 00:15:01,120 consultation call with evi who installed 316 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,959 what we currently have back there to see 317 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:04,480 if it was possible how much it would 318 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,199 cost things like that um and so that was 319 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,079 that what that meeting was about so that 320 00:15:09,079 --> 00:15:10,759 would be in addition to what we already 321 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:14,519 have it would but um after having my our 322 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:16,639 meeting and talking with um Kathy and 323 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,199 the mayor we decided not to pursue it 324 00:15:18,199 --> 00:15:20,519 because it's pretty expensive it' be we 325 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,079 would it would be a huge shortfall on 326 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:24,880 funding understood yeah thank you thank 327 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,839 you very much I know that this is a lot 328 00:15:26,839 --> 00:15:28,440 of grants that you're juggling at one 329 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,279 time and you're bringing a lot of money 330 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:31,680 to the town so I want to thank you for 331 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,399 all your hard work and time so it's 332 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,199 always a pleasure to see 333 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:41,319 you all right thank you 334 00:15:41,319 --> 00:15:44,720 thanks um uh moving on to town operation 335 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,600 specialist 336 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,560 report I have her report if anybody has 337 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,920 any questions on it or wants me just to 338 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,440 highlight real 339 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,199 quick I um I'm sorry go ahead so she did 340 00:15:57,199 --> 00:15:59,600 the drawing today for the breast cancer 341 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,560 awareness month I 342 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,680 believe pretty much everybody came in 343 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,880 and picked up uh their winnings from the 344 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Raffles she's still working on the tally 345 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,279 to find out how much um the town 346 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:12,839 actually raised uh the turkey trap 347 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:16,079 registration is open uh We've shared 348 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:19,120 some flyers all over the place and um 349 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,720 former commissioner Donald has offered 350 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,199 if we do some flyers he'll take them 351 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:23,519 around to all the 352 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,759 libraries um so that seems to be going 353 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,160 very well the we are currently working 354 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,079 on the emergency preparedness plan 355 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:36,079 emergency action plan um it's just more 356 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:38,720 updates and then the board will have to 357 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,519 formally um it has to be approved or 358 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:44,240 adopted by the board every five years so 359 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,560 we're looking to bring that to the board 360 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,800 after the first of the year after the 361 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,199 holidays okay um she has a meeting with 362 00:16:50,199 --> 00:16:52,720 the mayor on November 13th for the 363 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,759 churches and nonprofits to discuss 364 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:56,920 weekly hot meals to go in a community 365 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,560 events calendar uh she along with the 366 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,880 town planner attended the mar Maryland 367 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Main Street conference on October 368 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,439 8th and she is working through some FEMA 369 00:17:08,439 --> 00:17:11,319 courses on emergency 370 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:16,000 preparedness perfect thank you um I do 371 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,839 know she's dressing up as a turkey for 372 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,160 the turkey TR correct that is correct 373 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,959 she dressed it up dressed up as a turkey 374 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:23,679 for Halloween and here as well if anyone 375 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:25,799 didn't see the pictures she's breaking 376 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:27,919 in those feathers I know if there's any 377 00:17:27,919 --> 00:17:29,679 volunteer who wants to dress up as the 378 00:17:29,679 --> 00:17:31,640 pilgrim and chase her around she thinks 379 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,840 that will add to the festive fund so 380 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,600 just putting that out there all right 381 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,270 the meeting on the 13th to 7 382 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,840 o'clock yes or the non no 6 63030 6:30 383 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,400 on November 384 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,200 13th thank you for clarification any 385 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,160 other 386 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,480 questions okay thank you moving 387 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,510 on um 388 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,520 looking for the town planners 389 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,600 report good evening this is the town 390 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,760 planners report um of during the month 391 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,760 of 392 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,760 September sorry it should be October 393 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,039 um we processed eight um zoning permit 394 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,200 applications uh related to development 395 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,520 updates fedal Stone uh is under 396 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,440 construction and has made significant 397 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,159 progress their warehouse and um office 398 00:18:31,159 --> 00:18:32,559 building 399 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:35,000 they're they've made significant 400 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,559 progress on on those um I know they're 401 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:40,640 awaiting some uh framing ceiling and 402 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,600 building installation inspections and um 403 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,440 we provided them information regarding 404 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,600 their 405 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,000 signage uh let's skip down to the Mount 406 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,159 St Mary University um School of Health 407 00:18:52,159 --> 00:18:55,440 Professions there uh well the project is 408 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,159 complete and we're awaiting as as buils 409 00:18:58,159 --> 00:18:59,600 light inspection 410 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,960 were uh today it was actually this um 411 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,039 today at 4:30 and um we should be 412 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:07,559 getting that report 413 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:11,080 soon um for emmittsburg Distillery we 414 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,400 provided uh a bunch of more comments to 415 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,039 the developer and the applicant has yet 416 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:20,039 to finish addressing the County's 417 00:19:20,039 --> 00:19:25,440 comments um I'll skip on to EMT Ridge um 418 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,480 the developer has been provided with the 419 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,039 apfo application and that's and H 420 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:31,280 information and that's something they're 421 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,120 working on and they've also we had a 422 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,400 short discussion regarding um the 423 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,679 requirements uh for Irishtown Road and 424 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:44,159 uh we did do some extensive research to 425 00:19:44,159 --> 00:19:47,200 see what was required by the town before 426 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,320 as a condition condition of approval uh 427 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,559 back in 428 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:56,360 1995 but that doesn't apply anymore yeah 429 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,600 and then for uh North new Green Street 430 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,320 project uh the plants have been uh 431 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,440 they're still under review uh we got 432 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,840 some comments back from the engineer and 433 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,679 uh we actually presented the project at 434 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:12,960 the hazard mitigation and climate adapt 435 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,880 adaptation plan annual stakeholder 436 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,400 meeting and um people seem to really 437 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,760 like it some people also asked for 438 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,440 copies of the concept 439 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,200 plan um another one I want to mention is 440 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600 the solar panels on Daughters of Chari 441 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,679 property the property is technically 442 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:31,480 outside of town limits but the 443 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,320 interconnection point is within Town 444 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,360 limits so they do need a zoning permit 445 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:38,919 and that was issued 446 00:20:38,919 --> 00:20:42,880 um last week or the week 447 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,919 before um for how skip down to storm 448 00:20:46,919 --> 00:20:50,039 water management the ms4 annual report 449 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:52,559 was submitted on October 450 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:56,400 29th and um another one I want to 451 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,280 mention is that the storm order utility 452 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 fee we have a formal process for those 453 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,000 who think their fee should be adjusted 454 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,679 so we received one one adjustment 455 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:10,799 application and that's been processed um 456 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:12,840 basically the fee doesn't apply to 457 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,440 properties that are outside of town 458 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,279 limits so we made that uh made that 459 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:23,240 correction and so oh great thank you um 460 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Planning Commission I'll leave that for 461 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,360 um commissioner Hoover and the 462 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,000 comprehensive plan uh I'll be presenting 463 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,720 that 464 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,919 tonight and um for Grants at the iig 465 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:38,720 adnr uh Grant the progress report was 466 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,880 submitted last month along with another 467 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,480 invoice and um we coordinated with glow 468 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760 fiber regarding their uh permitting 469 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,559 requirements for street closure closure 470 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:57,000 and I have a um listed the uh meetings 471 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000 that I've attended during the month of 472 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,279 October thank you very much um questions 473 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:06,159 commissioner Hagen I noticed in the 474 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:09,000 meetings you met with range rain escapes 475 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,520 any chance we can lure them out of 476 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Gettysburg to 477 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,880 Emmitsburg we're we're working on that 478 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,679 yeah any other 479 00:22:20,679 --> 00:22:24,159 questions I just have one quick one um 480 00:22:24,159 --> 00:22:27,799 regarding Village Liquor Plaza in is 481 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:31,960 that still happening or I thought it 482 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,679 wasn't happening and now yeah we thought 483 00:22:34,679 --> 00:22:37,360 it was happening but we since they 484 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,360 renewed their grading 485 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:42,200 permit I believe they have plans to do 486 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,120 this in the future but they may not have 487 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,360 the capital to move forward at this time 488 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,360 understood okay thank you for the 489 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,559 clarification any other 490 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:58,559 questions okay we are moving on to um 491 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,640 commissioner comments uh we'll start 492 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,960 with commissioner Hagen um last Saturday 493 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,559 I had the pleasure of attending the 494 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,360 seeden center 55th anniversary gala 495 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:11,600 event so they're switching over to lay 496 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,520 management to the organization and 497 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,240 they've laid out some pretty hopeful 498 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 plans for the coming year such as 499 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,440 daycare centers an additional food bank 500 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,200 and they'll present more at the meeting 501 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 on the 13th here but they have some PR 502 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,440 broad goals that I think that will be 503 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,320 helpful to the community 504 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,919 and just wanted to remind tomorrow is 505 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:34,679 election day if you have not voted get 506 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:36,840 out and vote it doesn't matter who you 507 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,640 support or if you're going to vote the 508 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,240 entire ballot what's important is you 509 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,480 get out there and 510 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 vote thank you commissioner Sweeney I 511 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,120 agree make sure you come out and vote 512 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,990 tomorrow 513 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,120 uh I'd like to thank everybody for 514 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,679 Halloween the um everything went really 515 00:23:56,679 --> 00:23:58,600 well for the Halloween celebration we 516 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240 had on the town with all the with all 517 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,120 the organizations helping the town the 518 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,679 fire company the VFW the legion the 519 00:24:06,679 --> 00:24:13,000 Knights of Columbus the Lions Club the police department uh everyone worked 520 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960 together and we had a good event and it 521 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,320 was really it was really busy this year 522 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 it's our best year we've had for a while 523 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,200 and the weather helped too so was nice 524 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,360 so thanks for everybody for their help 525 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:29,559 and and the next Community town 526 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:30,960 party will be 527 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Christmas December the 14th Saturday 528 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,000 from 10: to 1 at the activities building 529 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,399 and at the um at the fire companies 530 00:24:40,399 --> 00:24:42,880 activities building on Queeny Road from 531 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720 10: to one and that's a town Christmas 532 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,000 party with s Mr Mrs Santa Claus and the 533 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,480 food and activities for them to do he 534 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,679 thank you thank you um commissioner 535 00:24:56,679 --> 00:24:58,480 Hoover 536 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720 uh we did have the uh plan and Zoning 537 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,960 meeting on October 28th it was very 538 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,559 brief short meeting but we did talk a 539 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,720 little bit about the mun Municipal 540 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200 growth section for the future boundaries 541 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 possibilities and transportation section 542 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,559 um just more of a brief overview um very 543 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,159 briefly never real um questions comments 544 00:25:19,159 --> 00:25:22,000 to were discussed there everybody seem 545 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,480 to be happy with what we have going on 546 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,960 what town planner has done she's doing a 547 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,679 good job and um our meeting lasted about 548 00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:29,440 17 minutes so not a whole lot to discuss 549 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,200 of 550 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,640 it but so and uh for the future meeting 551 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:41,149 in December 3rd I think it is um I may not be in 552 00:25:41,159 --> 00:25:44,320 attendance that's it December 3D it's 553 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200 not a town meeting oh that's the Oh you 554 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 mean the Board of Commissioners meeting 555 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,120 yes 556 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,240 okay yeah all right thank you um as far 557 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,799 as my comments go I want to Echo what 558 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,559 commissioner Sweeney said as far as 559 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:01,360 thank you to all Town staff and all the 560 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,000 different organizations that help make 561 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,760 Halloween a success for our kids and 562 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,279 adults and everyone who wanted to 563 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:08,640 partake in the 564 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200 festivities um also actually I should 565 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,279 have asked this it looks like we have a 566 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,399 business urg mini mark That's now where 567 00:26:17,399 --> 00:26:19,159 the Valero used to be I didn't even I'm 568 00:26:19,159 --> 00:26:22,080 sorry I didn't ask about that um right 569 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,360 um well it's outside of town limits oh 570 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,600 that's yeah but there is yeah there 571 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,279 iburg 572 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,520 and they're open y yes um right there as 573 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,159 you come into town thank you sorry about 574 00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:37,720 that um and then 575 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,640 also um we I believe we have several 576 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,799 vacancies for parks and recre and 577 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,159 citizens advisory committee meetings so 578 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:52,039 a lot of that depends on public support 579 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,120 resident support volunteers who are 580 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,000 hoping to make a difference and want 581 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640 their voices heard so if you are 582 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,919 interested we do have we do have spots 583 00:27:02,919 --> 00:27:05,919 available um how would they uh go about 584 00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:08,480 doing that do they email the town 585 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960 directly they can email um Sabrina or 586 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,360 anybody at the town and then we 587 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,440 typically send that over to the mayor 588 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,720 and whoever the committee liaison is and 589 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 they should reach out and if it then 590 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,200 it's a if it's a match then it'll come 591 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,240 to the board for approval okay perfect 592 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,640 and then um 593 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,399 and just a a small reminder to uh all of 594 00:27:32,399 --> 00:27:35,279 us around town we do have people stop us 595 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,200 along the way and tell us what they 596 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520 think and have opinions and concerns and 597 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,519 we want you to bring your voices forth 598 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,519 so please for not so much talking to 599 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,480 people here in the seats but people out 600 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840 there if um please come to the town 601 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600 meetings speak at public comment email 602 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,399 the Town Council we want to hear your 603 00:27:57,399 --> 00:28:00,440 feedback in way that 604 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,519 is that we can use and collaborate here 605 00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,679 at not only up here for Town Council but 606 00:28:06,679 --> 00:28:09,519 also with our residents so um please 607 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:13,039 spread the word and that's all I have um 608 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,399 I believe we have mayor Davis on the 609 00:28:15,399 --> 00:28:19,789 line if he has any mayor 610 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,600 comments hi good evening can you hear me 611 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,480 yes okay um I really don't have anything 612 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,519 it's just been a real busy uh busy month 613 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:31,080 and uh you all have touched them on just 614 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,919 about everything so uh that's all I got 615 00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:35,799 and we can keep on 616 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,310 going thank 617 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,640 you okay and with that we're moving on 618 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,559 to administrative 619 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,039 business uh for consideration free 620 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:49,840 holiday metered parking with all 621 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,480 proceeds being donated to the emsur food 622 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,720 bank we don't have to vote on this 623 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320 correct it's administr we do public 624 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,039 comment did I skip that oh my gosh I was 625 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,480 so excited about free holiday parking 626 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,039 I'm sorry I'll backtrack public comment 627 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,240 we have two for public comment when your 628 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120 name is called you can come up to the 629 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080 microphone press the button so it turns 630 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,919 red and you have four minutes to speak 631 00:29:16,919 --> 00:29:19,679 and you can watch the timer in front to 632 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:22,000 see how much time you have left uh first 633 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:32,190 up we have Mr Jack Weller 634 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,279 hello um I don't know if anybody read 635 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,840 the paper but I'm gonna stop you just 636 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,399 for a minute can you state your name and 637 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,039 whether you live in or outside Town 638 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,279 limits I live my name's Jack Weller I 639 00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,200 live outside the town limits perfect I'm 640 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,760 not I'm not a town resident um on the 641 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,919 November 2024 uh toen Banner the the 642 00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:54,000 headline there on the one page was mburg 643 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,519 goes dry and they were talking about 50 644 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,880 years ago in 1974 when the lake 645 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,960 was down evidently 5 feet which I 646 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,000 thought wasn't that much further down 647 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,679 than what it was last year which I'm 648 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:09,039 pretty sure was three and a half feet 649 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,960 and but anyway um I was just uh amazed 650 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,240 at the D thing they had to pump water 651 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,000 from another lake or another Reservoir 652 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480 into it to to get it up to Snuff and 653 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,919 then of course the mount was asked to 654 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:27,120 extend their uh Thanksgiving break so 655 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,000 that they use less 656 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,279 and but anyway I was just I just 657 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:32,600 couldn't believe that the D thing was 658 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,720 down that far that's all that was the 659 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440 first thing and the second thing was 660 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840 mayor Davis uh made a comment I think it 661 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,799 was just last uh last meeting that he 662 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,640 would there was a a town uh a building 663 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,600 in town that he would like to condemn 664 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 but he he said he couldn't do it and so 665 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,279 I was wondering why he doesn't get any 666 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,559 support for this uh that's all because 667 00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,600 that's what he said there's no there's 668 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,320 no support for it and of course he's not 669 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,880 here he hears you though oh yeah and my 670 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360 third thing and last was that I agree 671 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,679 with the colum writer who uh also and I 672 00:31:12,679 --> 00:31:14,799 think that was in the other paper the uh 673 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:19,519 urg osburg free paper about the apathy 674 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:23,760 and the fact that uh if you talk to the people on the Town Council they 675 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,559 listen to you I agree with that 100% And I and you're I just wanted to also 676 00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,159 make a mention that the guy the man's uh 677 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:34,320 writing is pretty good I think and I do 678 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,279 reading okay that's all thank you very 679 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:51,190 much um next up we have Mr Eric 680 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Sloan Eric Sloan I live here in 681 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,360 town uh this is in in references how 682 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,039 much of a mess is the next increment for 683 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,039 the water bill going to make because I 684 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,600 hear from various people that it doesn't 685 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,120 matter and I hear from other people that 686 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,559 they you know they're running a ride 687 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:11,440 being able to buy food pay their rent 688 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080 because the price of everything has gone 689 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,760 up and it is just a a standard of 690 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760 business you know it costs more to get 691 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,279 it out of the ground it costs more to 692 00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,519 get it to the people so the prices are 693 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,399 going to go up and in the future you 694 00:32:25,399 --> 00:32:28,200 know one or two% increase 695 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,880 every year would be a whole lot better 696 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,559 than having the villagers with 697 00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,480 pitchforks and torches as the old movies 698 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,480 that have 699 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,399 it and as far as the looking forward 700 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:40,159 into the next couple years for you know 701 00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:42,000 our Dream list of things to 702 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,159 do uh a more serious view of what it's 703 00:32:45,159 --> 00:32:47,880 going to take to maintain the failing 704 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,639 infrastructure of the 705 00:32:49,639 --> 00:32:52,679 town because it's you know the sewer 706 00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:55,120 line that runs 707 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,960 from where I live down to the pump 708 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,760 station was put in during the Civilian 709 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960 Conservation Corps it's 4 foot long clay 710 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,600 and slip and it's not going to take a 711 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120 whole lot longer before it needs to be 712 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,720 replaced and that's probably one of the 713 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,320 newer 714 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,120 sections uh you know it's it's we're 715 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,679 going to end up looking like tny town 716 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,240 did for a couple years with everything 717 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720 all dug the heck up and it's just going 718 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880 to be something to live with you you 719 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480 can't live in a town and not deal with 720 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:32,600 it and the last bit is uh does the mount have 721 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,960 any way to monitor their first year 722 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,320 students that are living in town because 723 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080 there was a batch of them came down 724 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Lincoln down creary went over to the 725 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480 Dollar General left there sat down the 726 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,159 ice cream shop when they left the ice 727 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:49,519 cream shop they were throwing all kinds 728 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,279 of stuff at my fence and screaming at my 729 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,960 dogs and when I reminded to him that uh 730 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880 animal cruelty in the state is a fell in 731 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,279 the offense with a bunch of f words and 732 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,559 F bombs and they took off back wherever 733 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,600 they came from 734 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,080 now somebody needs to hold their hand 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,679 because their parents can't do it 736 00:34:06,679 --> 00:34:09,720 anymore and if it ends up being the 737 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:11,919 sheriff system for them throwing debris 738 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,960 and stuff I don't think they're parents 739 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,399 are gonna be all too fired having When 740 00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:18,399 Johnny Comes home because Mount threw 741 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:19,839 him out because he's facing criminal 742 00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:23,240 charges for animal abuse so you know to 743 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:25,919 get with the mount or whatever and say 744 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:30,679 take care of this and keep it out of the whole juror system and keep it quiet 745 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,440 and safe would be 746 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,800 good that's all thank 747 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,440 you um and I do think uh mayor Davis is working collaborative with 748 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,679 collaboratively with Mount St Mary's to 749 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,000 address some of those issues as well as 750 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,079 um trying to create more of 751 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:53,320 a positive relationship and um he's he's 752 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,919 spent with them several times and we'll 753 00:34:54,919 --> 00:34:58,560 make sure to he probably hears us to uh 754 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,720 pass that along thank 755 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:04,320 you all right 756 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:11,990 now that concludes public 757 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,320 comments so now we can move on to 758 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,720 administrative business for 759 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,200 consideration free holiday metered 760 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560 parking with all proceeds being donated 761 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,200 to the Emmitsburg Food 762 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,040 Bank 763 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,910 um so so is there a 764 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,480 seconded thank you any further well 765 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,720 there's no discussion administrative all 766 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:43,200 in favor please say I I motion carries uh five or I'm sorry 767 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480 four with one 768 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,880 absent all right moving on to consent 769 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,720 agenda item number 770 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,000 one for consideration approv approval of 771 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,920 the Proclamation for MML municipal 772 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,079 government works month 773 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,640 so before 774 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200 we we approve that I will go ahead and 775 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,480 read the 776 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,280 proclamation which states Proclamation 777 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,000 municipal government works month 778 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,599 November 2024 the mayor and the Board of 779 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,760 Commissioners of the town of Emmitsburg 780 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680 proclaimed November 2024 to be municipal 781 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520 government works month whereas the town 782 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,599 was established in 1785 and whereas 783 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,800 Maryland is home to 150 other 784 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,160 municipalities and whereas municipal 785 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,640 government represents the most 786 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,240 responsive level of government allowing 787 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,319 citizens to have direct access to 788 00:36:37,319 --> 00:36:40,079 elected officials and whereas in an 789 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,960 effort to educate citizens about 790 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920 municipal government and the importance 791 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,599 of their participation the town of emsur 792 00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,599 is proud to promote municipal government 793 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,599 awareness and whereas municipalities 794 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:54,520 have enhanced the quality of life for 795 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,440 their respective residents maintaining 796 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,119 natural and historic sites and 797 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,400 structures and helping to make Maryland 798 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,800 a great place to live work play and 799 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,680 explore now therefore be it proclaimed 800 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,599 that the mayor and the Board of 801 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,160 Commissioners of the town of Emmitsburg 802 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Maryland here uh do hereby join the 803 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,720 Maryland Municipal league in declaring 804 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,240 November 2024 to be municipal government 805 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,280 works month in emmittsburg which would 806 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,000 be adopted today November 4th 807 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,880 2024 um all in favor please say oh I'm 808 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,560 sorry is there a mo motion 809 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,760 to accept the 810 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,200 proclamation thank you is there a second 811 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,200 I 812 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:47,440 second um all in favor please say I I I motion carries with four to one 813 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359 abstain or one who is 814 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:52,400 absent the next two for our consent 815 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000 agenda we can take together if that if 816 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,720 that works for the Commissioners which 817 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,480 is for consideration accept the 818 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,839 resignation of Wayne Slaughter and Sandy 819 00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,800 Slaughter from the citizens advisory 820 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,720 committee and for consideration appoint 821 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,960 Wendy Hagen to the Parks and Recreation 822 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,400 committee with a term of November 4th 823 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,190 20124 to November 4th 824 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,119 2026 um are are you okay with taking 825 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:26,079 both of those together yes yes okay is 826 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,560 there a motion you have to abstain 827 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,800 commissioner hegen needs to abstain 828 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520 thank you so you need take so we'll have 829 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,920 to take him separately all right 830 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,359 so is there a motion to accept the 831 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:39,319 resignation of Wayne Slaughter and Sandy 832 00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:42,599 Slaughter from the citizens advisory 833 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,880 committee I'll make the motion thank you 834 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,240 is there a second second thank you um 835 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:57,800 all in favor please say I I motion carries for with one absent and 836 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,640 the next one for consideration appoint 837 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,560 Wendy Hagen to the Parks and Recreation 838 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040 committee with a term of November 4th 839 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,079 2024 to November 4th 840 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,760 2026 is 841 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,280 there a motion move thank you is there a 842 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,200 second second thank you all in favor 843 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:23,839 please say I I motion carries with um three eyes one 844 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:29,670 abstain and one absent 845 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,800 all right moving 846 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:38,150 on to the treasurers 847 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,319 report do you 848 00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:44,280 um want to do a brief overie I can um so 849 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,680 the cash activity report as of October 850 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,280 25th 851 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,160 2024 um you'll see the cash balance on 852 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,920 the first was 8 mil about 8.6 million we 853 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,520 had deposits uh a little over 00,000 and 854 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,599 withdrawals um of roughly 855 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,480 800,000 uh the operating balance forward 856 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,480 was 8.5 million uh you'll see the top 10 857 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,240 checks that were issued in the month of 858 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,280 October uh and then you'll have the fund 859 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,480 breakdown for um as of 1025 of 24 860 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,280 general fund with roughly two million 861 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,680 capital projects roughly 600,000 862 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,760 storm water management um and that's 863 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,800 because we have not received any fees 864 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,119 yet because the bills are still coming 865 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,599 in is a netive 866 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,960 4,000 uh the water is at a negative 867 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,280 88,000 arpa has roughly 2.5 million and 868 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,160 Sewer has roughly 3.3 869 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,190 million okay any 870 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,839 questions okay hearing none we are 871 00:40:52,839 --> 00:40:55,680 moving on thank you Miss 872 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,750 Willets um 873 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,560 I believe we've already hit the Planning 874 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,680 Commission report with your comments so 875 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160 we can move on from 876 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,760 that and uh moving on to agenda item 877 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,000 number one Community Development block 878 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,800 grant public hearing to provide 879 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160 information on the progress on the depal 880 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,760 street waterline 881 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,680 replacement project 882 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,079 so 883 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,510 um we need a motion to 884 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,079 go into the hearing to go into the 885 00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,480 hearing I move is there a second second 886 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,000 it thank you um any further discussion 887 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:48,000 all in favor please say I I motion carries 4 to one 888 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,360 absent okay so we have 889 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,069 [Music] 890 00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,720 um uh a public hearing to discuss the 891 00:41:58,720 --> 00:41:59,680 town of 892 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,560 Emmitsburg State fiscal year 2024 893 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400 Community Development block grant 894 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,280 project and it is starting as of right 895 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,839 now 896 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:12,760 um I always start with has the hearing 897 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,720 and properly 898 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,400 advertised yes thank 899 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,480 you um is there anyone who intends to 900 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,800 provide testimony during this public 901 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440 hearing if if so 902 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,680 are I mean would they normally sign up 903 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,720 on public comment for that is there 904 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:33,960 anybody here for public comment 905 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,800 regarding the 906 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,079 hearing okay was that a yes no okay all 907 00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:43,880 right so we don't have to have anybody 908 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,760 do the 909 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480 oath all right so we're going to take it 910 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160 over to the staff to do a brief uh 911 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,240 presentation all right thank 912 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:57,400 you um and the map is on the screen of 913 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,880 project location on depal street so the 914 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,040 um this public hearing was advertised in 915 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,240 English and Spanish as required by the 916 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,440 Grant in the Frederick News Post on 917 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,559 October 21st the hearing was also 918 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:12,200 advertised on the town website channel 919 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,720 99 and the November email newsletter it 920 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:17,079 was posted at the front window of the 921 00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,000 town office and it was posted on 922 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,319 Facebook in in English and Spanish on 923 00:43:21,319 --> 00:43:23,880 October 18th um the Community 924 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,559 Development block grant recipients are 925 00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,480 required to conduct two public hearings 926 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,359 one before the application is submitted 927 00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:33,160 which be held on June 5th 2023 and one 928 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,119 during the imple implementation of the 929 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,119 grant which we are holding tonight we 930 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:38,960 are required to provide the public 931 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,640 information on the progress of Grant 932 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,319 fund the grant funded project and also 933 00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:44,920 give the public an opportunity to 934 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,839 provide 935 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:48,680 comment the town was awarded a 936 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640 $552,500 $500 Community Development 937 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,559 block grant to fund a portion of the 938 00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:55,160 depal street water line replacement 939 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,480 project the total project cost is 940 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,800 1,243 941 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,119 1088 funding for the project is being 942 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:05,640 provided by the Community Development 943 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,440 block grant from the state a fiscal year 944 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,920 24 capital budget Grant from mde 945 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,200 American Rescue plan moneys and then 946 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640 there's a $10,000 in kind Town 947 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,359 contribution when the project is 948 00:44:18,359 --> 00:44:20,280 completed approximately 949 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,760 2,340 ft of 8 in ductile iron waterline 950 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,440 will be replaced the town awarded the 951 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,240 construction contract to huntsbury 952 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,000 Brothers Inc on April 1st 2024 notice to 953 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,960 proceed was issued July 22nd and 954 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,599 construction began in on August 16th to 955 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,599 date the contractor has completed the 956 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,280 water wi replacement between North 957 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,640 seedan Avenue to St Joseph's Lane on 958 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,000 depal Street the contractor is currently 959 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,640 working on the St Joseph's Lane to 960 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,760 Federal Avenue portion 961 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,119 $271,400 has been paid to the 962 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,760 contractor to date no issues have 963 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,839 occurred heard one complaint has been 964 00:44:58,839 --> 00:45:01,400 received and that was about parking for 965 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,040 the project the project is within budget 966 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,680 and the project is on schedule and 967 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,720 expected to be completed by April 15 968 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,640 2025 any complaints and grievances 969 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,640 related to this project may be submitted 970 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,280 at any time to myself I can be contacted 971 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,559 by phone at 972 00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:23,480 24741 2137 or by email at 973 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,680 MW Emmitsburg md.gov or you can also 974 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,960 contact me by visiting the town office 975 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,599 located here at 300a South ceden 976 00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:37,200 Avenue and that is the end of my 977 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,760 presentation thank 978 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,480 you okay um are there any questions for 979 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,880 the staff from board members 980 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000 commissioner Hagen yeah I get had some 981 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,720 questions from the residents when it the 982 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:50,559 construction gets to the end of depal 983 00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:52,079 Street there were saying how are they 984 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,119 going to get out and parking down there 985 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,520 is there a plan for that or we don't 986 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,150 know yet 987 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,079 they've typically kept at least one lane 988 00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,440 open for for traffic um and if I recall 989 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,680 correctly um there should be parking 990 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,599 allowed on one side of the road uh but 991 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,520 we certainly we have a progress meeting 992 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,720 coming up in two weeks we can certainly 993 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:19,400 ask that question and get more 994 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,720 information okay commissioner Sweeny um 995 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,119 they'll they'll be working through the 996 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,760 winter no they're they're plan is to 997 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,319 stop temporarily because of the 998 00:46:29,319 --> 00:46:31,200 temporary water line and concerns of 999 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,280 freezing I know that when we we weren't 1000 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,760 allowed to have a p November 1st so I 1001 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,030 didn't because of 1002 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,880 freezing that's all I need 1003 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,640 okay you're good okay um I already asked 1004 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,440 but it seems like are there there's no 1005 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,710 public comment regarding this 1006 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,559 hearing all 1007 00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:57,920 right if that that's the case if no one 1008 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,800 else has anything more to present public 1009 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,640 comment is now 1010 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,160 closed and that we can deliberate 1011 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,920 but are we good I'm 1012 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,800 good all right so 1013 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,160 then we need a motion to end the public 1014 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,359 do I mean yeah we'll just need a motion 1015 00:47:22,359 --> 00:47:24,280 to end the public hearing I'll make a 1016 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,920 motion to end the public hearing thank 1017 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,040 you commissioner Hagen is there a second thank you commissioner Hoover all 1018 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,640 in favor please say I I I motion carries 1019 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000 4 to one 1020 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,160 absent thank 1021 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:48,589 you and moving on 1022 00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:51,680 to uh so we do have number two that said 1023 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,359 consideration approval of bid for the 1024 00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:55,760 town of imburg sewer line camera project 1025 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,240 which has been postponed just want to um 1026 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,760 make that announcement so we're moving 1027 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,240 on to presentation of the town of emur 1028 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:18,150 comprehensive 1029 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,640 plan 1030 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,240 start so this is the presentation on the 1031 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:25,680 current version of the 2025 1032 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,960 comprehensive plan which is a document 1033 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,559 to guide the community's um future 1034 00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,880 development um so to give you some 1035 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,079 background um jurisdictions are required 1036 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,559 to adopt comprehensive plans under the 1037 00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,040 Maryland land use article in the 1038 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,720 Maryland code of 1039 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,520 regulations in 2013 um if you could go 1040 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,799 to the next slide um the Maryland 1041 00:48:49,799 --> 00:48:51,680 general assembly passed a bill to 1042 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,480 require a 10-year review cycle so 1043 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,640 basically every 10 years a town has to 1044 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,280 um assess what needs to be updated and 1045 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,599 adopt an updated plan It's usually the 1046 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:04,200 Planning Commission who's in charge of 1047 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,760 assessing what needs to be 1048 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200 updated um and then 1049 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,480 it's um a resolution is um adopted by 1050 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480 the Board of Commissioners but we can 1051 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,640 get into that later um so the 1052 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,200 requirement is to be six years but now 1053 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,599 it's 10 years um and the last 1054 00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:23,720 comprehensive plan was adopted in 1055 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,240 November of 2015 so we're nearing the 1056 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,720 10-e mark Mark since it's almost 1057 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,400 2025 um so the purpose of this update is 1058 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,839 to ensure that plans align with current 1059 00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:37,240 legislations and policies and Community 1060 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:39,720 needs obviously the population and 1061 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,240 demographics have um evolved since 2015 1062 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:45,480 so the updated plan will allow the town 1063 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,599 to respond to new housing infrastructure 1064 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,240 and community service 1065 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,160 needs um the economy has changed over 1066 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,880 the past decade as well environmental 1067 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,520 conditions have changed and so on so 1068 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,319 that's why the plan needs to be 1069 00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:04,799 updated so I'll I'll jump right into the 1070 00:50:04,799 --> 00:50:07,839 current draft uh which includes the oh 1071 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:10,960 next slide um updated information about 1072 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,640 the town so this involves various 1073 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,599 aspects of population housing economy 1074 00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,799 environment natural resources land use 1075 00:50:19,799 --> 00:50:22,720 and um transportation and Community 1076 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,839 facilities and it integrates the three 1077 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:28,680 pillars of syst stainability and we've 1078 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,319 been able to gather a lot of public 1079 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,799 input through workshops and 1080 00:50:32,799 --> 00:50:36,079 surveys it incorporate smart growth 1081 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,720 elements to create vibrant communities 1082 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,480 preserve natural resources and reduce 1083 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,440 fra um the plan also introduces a new 1084 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,400 growth boundary and growth opportunity 1085 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,920 areas which I'll explain a bit 1086 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,799 later so um I know the next slide has um 1087 00:50:55,799 --> 00:50:57,559 a list of different es between the old 1088 00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,240 and the new plans but I can quickly 1089 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:01,720 summarize 1090 00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:05,280 um all each one of them so the first 1091 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,520 main difference is that the older plan 1092 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,520 while it's 1093 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,280 um emphasizes structured land use 1094 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,480 Transportation environmental resource 1095 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,720 preservation but um Community engagement 1096 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,960 is a little less extensive the new plan 1097 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,960 intends to put more emphasis on 1098 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,880 community-driven goals public input has 1099 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,760 been uh gathered through multiple 1100 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,079 workshops and surveys that reflect the 1101 00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,839 town's focus on economic development 1102 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,000 environmental sustainability and 1103 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,319 inclusivity which also informed the 1104 00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:40,359 goals in each 1105 00:51:40,359 --> 00:51:43,480 section so the older plan had goals to 1106 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,200 support local businesses and tourism and 1107 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,559 the new plan um we expand on that and 1108 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,599 add detailed strategies for addressing 1109 00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:53,960 economic 1110 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,079 challenges from the community feedback 1111 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,520 we learned about um high demand for 1112 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,280 child care diverse retail Etc but there 1113 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,280 was also interest in research and 1114 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,359 development Labs distribution centers 1115 00:52:06,359 --> 00:52:08,839 and Partnerships to create stable jobs 1116 00:52:08,839 --> 00:52:11,599 and address economic 1117 00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,760 issues the previous um plan was pretty 1118 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,839 focused 1119 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,880 on accommodating go growth through 1120 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,200 single family development single family 1121 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,280 uh housing developments but the new plan 1122 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,319 Builds on this and expands the housing 1123 00:52:27,319 --> 00:52:29,720 needs by addressing affordable housing 1124 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:34,319 shortage and introduces mix use medium 1125 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:35,960 density housing 1126 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,480 options there's emphasis on housing 1127 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,559 needs of the asset limited income 1128 00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,280 constrainted employed are also known as 1129 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160 Alice households mainly since it 1130 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,160 represents a significant portion of the 1131 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,599 town's 1132 00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,440 population the new plan also Builds on 1133 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,400 the older plan's goals of implementing 1134 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,720 sustainable practices at a community 1135 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,440 level involving stream and Wetland 1136 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,400 protection and flood pain 1137 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,760 management uh another big change is the 1138 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,200 growth boundary and the growth 1139 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,680 opportunity area grow opportunity area 1140 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,400 to control sprawl or manage um expansion 1141 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,920 in a balanced way so that the small town 1142 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,240 character is 1143 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,760 preserved there's support for mixed use 1144 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,920 zones and compact development and a 1145 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,520 detailed growth boundary to plan for 1146 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,280 annexation 1147 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,960 needs um the new plan also talks about 1148 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,280 infrastructure improvements based on 1149 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,599 community input including better parking 1150 00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:35,319 and accessibility that can support the 1151 00:53:35,319 --> 00:53:39,319 town's needs IT addresses um amenities 1152 00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,599 like Child Care recreational facilities 1153 00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:44,400 and programs for businesses and families 1154 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,440 and it talks about Partnerships with um 1155 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,559 various organizations including Mount St 1156 00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:51,480 Marys for Community Resources and 1157 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,030 workplace 1158 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,880 development um so 1159 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,720 uh excuse me I'll go over each section 1160 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,559 that we have uh that we provided you um 1161 00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:09,960 copies of uh tonight um so we named the 1162 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,640 document Envision Envision urg to 1163 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,160 encapsulate the idea of looking ahead to 1164 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,960 imagine a better mburg one that's 1165 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,640 prosperous connected sustainable and the 1166 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,359 name represents a strategic and 1167 00:54:24,359 --> 00:54:26,680 inclusive approach to planning that refs 1168 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,440 the shared goals and values of residents 1169 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,119 aiming to guide the town's development 1170 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,640 in a way that balances economic 1171 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,880 Prosperity environmental stewardship and 1172 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,160 social 1173 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,400 well-being so um the first 1174 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,960 section um is the introductory chapter 1175 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,480 which will be finalized after completing 1176 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440 all the other sections and um this 1177 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,760 approach will help write a complete 1178 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,040 overview and an accurate summary of the 1179 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,559 entire plan and to make sure that it 1180 00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,680 sets the stage for um content of the 1181 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,880 plan uh that's why we're waiting until 1182 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,359 all the other uh chapters are 1183 00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:08,040 completed and the this chapter will 1184 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,160 include the town's background and 1185 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,160 outline the organization of the 1186 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,119 plan um it'll also include the state's 1187 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,359 12 Visions which was created by 1188 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:19,720 Maryland's planning Vision law planning 1189 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:23,359 Visions law in 2009 and uh how the plan 1190 00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:24,880 relates to each 1191 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,520 Vision so that'll be the uh first 1192 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,520 chapter um the second chapter which you 1193 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,720 should have gotten a copy of is the 1194 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,520 community input and 1195 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,359 vision which discusses all public input 1196 00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:40,359 through workshops and surveys as you may 1197 00:55:40,359 --> 00:55:43,200 already know um there were three 1198 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,960 workshops and four surveys that were 1199 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,440 made accessible to the public three of 1200 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,799 those surveys focused on the three 1201 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:52,359 pillars of 1202 00:55:52,359 --> 00:55:55,680 sustainability and the plan focuses on 1203 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,240 the three pillar of 1204 00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:59,880 sustainability uh it provides a holistic 1205 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,599 framework for developing communities in 1206 00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:04,760 a in a way that ensures long-term 1207 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,799 well-being and resilience so there's 1208 00:56:07,799 --> 00:56:11,920 environmental sustainability um and then 1209 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,640 um Economic Development and Community 1210 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,839 Development um there are sections for 1211 00:56:18,839 --> 00:56:22,839 each pillar and they they're all um they 1212 00:56:22,839 --> 00:56:25,520 all discuss a participants views and 1213 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,480 preferences B based on personal 1214 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,200 experience um so for example under 1215 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,559 economic growth um or Economic 1216 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,480 Development there's job growth support 1217 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,839 for local businesses infrastructure 1218 00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:40,200 improvements 1219 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,760 Etc and then under Community Development 1220 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,960 there's discussion regarding Community 1221 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,400 engagement and improving amenities also 1222 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,960 affordable housing and poverty 1223 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,599 alleviation um there's a section of um 1224 00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,599 section for environmental sustainability 1225 00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:58,400 that addresses preservation climate 1226 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,520 change and awareness and community-led 1227 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,520 initiatives so all these are put 1228 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,799 together to form the vision statements 1229 00:57:05,799 --> 00:57:08,559 for each of the three pillars and these 1230 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:11,760 vision statements are um these broad 1231 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,359 forward-looking 1232 00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:16,039 statements um to guide goals and 1233 00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:20,990 strategies that are stated in subsequent 1234 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,640 chapters um then we have the population 1235 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,000 and housing uh chapter which focuses on 1236 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,480 the demographics and Trends and housing 1237 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,880 composition in 1238 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,720 Emmitsburg there's a section on 1239 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,319 population characteristics age gender 1240 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:39,000 distribution housing occupancy and it 1241 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,240 also focuses on LS households as a major 1242 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,119 demographic and their need for 1243 00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:47,039 affordable housing close to job 1244 00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:50,760 opportunities and like um there's a 1245 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,200 section with goals objectives and 1246 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,440 strategies and all the chapters um from 1247 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,240 will have except for the first two will 1248 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,960 have these goals objectives and 1249 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,319 strategies 1250 00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:05,559 section um the goals involve in this 1251 00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:08,079 chapter involves accommodating the 1252 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,160 population's needs by promoting diverse 1253 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:15,200 housing options that support um an um 1254 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,400 intergenerational Community catering to 1255 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,799 residents of all ages groups and income 1256 00:58:19,799 --> 00:58:22,720 levels another goal is to develop a land 1257 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,440 use program to promote infill 1258 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,480 development and the third goal goal is 1259 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,000 to implement programs and policies to 1260 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,280 eliminate vacant and blighted buildings 1261 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,440 that can be transferred in transformed 1262 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,000 into safe livable housing 1263 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,039 units um in the um packet you will also 1264 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:43,440 see that the goals have objectives and 1265 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,079 strategies that correspond to each goal 1266 00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:49,680 so for example under the first goal as I 1267 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,359 mentioned accommodating the population's 1268 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:53,599 needs by offering the other housing 1269 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,640 options that support the inter 1270 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,720 generation 1271 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,319 Community catering to residents of all 1272 00:58:59,319 --> 00:59:01,920 ages and groups income levels the 1273 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280 objective here is to increase the 1274 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,119 diversity of housing types by ensuring 1275 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,599 that um at least a certain percentage of 1276 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:12,200 new residential developments include mix 1277 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,559 of housing options such as single family 1278 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:17,640 homes duplexes um town homes and 1279 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,799 apartments and a strategy for that is to 1280 00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:23,480 revise um zoning regulations to allow 1281 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,599 for greater housing diversity including 1282 00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:30,839 higher density options and so that's 1283 00:59:30,839 --> 00:59:34,720 um uh the chapter on uh population and 1284 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,400 housing and um there's a few more 1285 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,680 chapters that I'll go over um the next 1286 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,200 one we have economy and fiscal Health 1287 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,480 that talks about um the business comp 1288 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,760 composition and employment trends and 1289 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,880 fiscal challenges in town and uh IT 1290 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,480 addresses the fact that there's limited 1291 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,359 business base and that um most residents 1292 00:59:56,359 --> 00:59:59,359 commute to work which often leads to um 1293 00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:02,440 reduced local spending it also 1294 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,480 highlights areas of opportunities such 1295 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,400 as the fact that it's near a tourist 1296 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,119 attractions that the town can capitalize 1297 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,839 on and promote Economic 1298 01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:13,880 Development um it highlights the 1299 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,559 financial status of the population 1300 01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:18,240 through the median income uh poverty 1301 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,280 rate and um employment rate as well as 1302 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,559 the presence of um Al families as 1303 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:27,799 households it goes over the town's 1304 01:00:27,799 --> 01:00:30,520 overall fiscal Health showing um the 1305 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,880 need for broadening the tax base based 1306 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,160 on R residential 1307 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,920 sectors and the chapter has suggested 1308 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,640 goals and to strengthen the town's local 1309 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,400 economy and business 1310 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,119 environment um I'll mention that one 1311 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,760 that talks about uh reducing economic 1312 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,640 leakage or reduced spending and 1313 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,760 encourage residents and visitors to 1314 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,799 spend locally which could be 1315 01:00:54,799 --> 01:00:56,799 accomplished by implementing a Main 1316 01:00:56,799 --> 01:00:59,319 Street Improvement program to revitalize 1317 01:00:59,319 --> 01:01:02,000 the area to attract businesses and 1318 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,799 tourists the goal section also mentions 1319 01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:07,039 partnering with Mount St Mary's 1320 01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:09,960 University to offer vocational and 1321 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,119 professional development programs that 1322 01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:15,000 meet the needs of key sectors um 1323 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,680 relevant to the town's needs and um one 1324 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,359 of those goals also calls for addressing 1325 01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:24,680 the uh income inequality and support the 1326 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,480 needs of Alice um households through 1327 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,480 increasing access to Affordable and 1328 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,319 middle income housing units which can be 1329 01:01:33,319 --> 01:01:35,079 achieved by a collaborating with 1330 01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:37,240 developers who are looking to start 1331 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,000 residential development in 1332 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,720 town um next we have the environment and 1333 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,680 natural resources chapter which focuses 1334 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,280 on waterways vegetative buffers uh 1335 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,400 unique Landscapes talks about the 1336 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,920 geography and how it influences the 1337 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,559 town's development 1338 01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,200 and touches upon groundwater resources 1339 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,160 uh Wetlands flood planes 1340 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,079 Etc uh it also mentions climate change 1341 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:05,880 and flood plane management and the 1342 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,839 town's efforts to um control storm 1343 01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:11,880 water and talks about green 1344 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,480 infrastructure like rain Gardens and 1345 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,880 permeable 1346 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:21,039 Pavements um and then the goals include working to ensure and long-term 1347 01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:23,880 ecological integrity and minimizing the 1348 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,119 environmental impact of development on 1349 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:31,039 systems and I have a couple more slides 1350 01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,079 uh the next um chapter we have is the 1351 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,319 land use and Community design which 1352 01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:38,680 talks about zoning patterns and land use 1353 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,760 patterns in town and you know it's like 1354 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,200 different zones residential commercial 1355 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,720 industrial institutional and breaks down 1356 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,440 how much of the town's area is 1357 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,960 designated for each each Zone um the 1358 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,119 most important part of this chapter is 1359 01:02:54,119 --> 01:02:57,160 the growth boundary boundary area area 1360 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,359 and the growth opportunity area so the 1361 01:03:00,359 --> 01:03:04,200 last growth boundary area was adopted in 1362 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,240 2021 and um if you go to the next slide 1363 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,160 there's a map 1364 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,799 um 1365 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:14,799 the what you see here the the red line 1366 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:17,480 is the newly proposed growth boundary 1367 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,880 which includes properties located 1368 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760 northwest of the town's borders um along 1369 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,309 Track Road and uh Route 14 1370 01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:30,680 um so these are suggested to be included 1371 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,920 to address fragmented Water and Sewer 1372 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,440 Service issues some of these properties 1373 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,079 are already connected to Town's 1374 01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:40,000 utilities while others are not since the 1375 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,000 town's code 1376 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,960 um prohibits establishing utility 1377 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,640 connections outside of its jurisdiction 1378 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,079 service cannot be extended unless these 1379 01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,680 areas are annexed so to make um future 1380 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,440 annexation possible these properties 1381 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,039 must be included into the growth Town's 1382 01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,799 growth boundary and provide that would 1383 01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:03,839 provide them um opportunities for water 1384 01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,240 and sewer 1385 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,319 connections and about the growth 1386 01:04:07,319 --> 01:04:09,680 opportunity area which is in 1387 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,559 Gray um it's it's um a 1388 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:18,880 flexible way to um allow growth you know 1389 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,319 because growth isn't always um confined 1390 01:04:21,319 --> 01:04:23,760 into like one town limit it happens 1391 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,760 outset of town limits as well but if 1392 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,480 there's unplanned growth that takes 1393 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,960 place and it can have um benefits for 1394 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,200 the town it could be like economic or 1395 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,880 residential development or any other 1396 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,160 infrastructure projects but has benefits 1397 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,960 for the town if they're Incorporated um 1398 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,799 then this is one way um the town can 1399 01:04:47,799 --> 01:04:51,000 uh allow annexation of those areas 1400 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,880 without having to change the 1401 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,839 comprehensive plan over and over again 1402 01:04:55,839 --> 01:04:59,839 um so and then the growth opportunities 1403 01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:03,880 areas they're usually um they usually 1404 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,079 have constraints like physical 1405 01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,680 constraints in topography or the C's um 1406 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,720 easements like agricultural 1407 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,880 easements so it like naturally um helps 1408 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,640 uh put like a 1409 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,559 boundary and then the the gray that you 1410 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:26,240 see it extends from like quarter of a 1411 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,440 mile to a third of a mile that's how 1412 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,359 further out it is from the growth 1413 01:05:32,359 --> 01:05:35,440 boundary so 1414 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,520 um that's that's part of the land use 1415 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,799 chapter and 1416 01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:45,279 um the remaining sections we have are um 1417 01:05:45,279 --> 01:05:47,279 the transportation and Community 1418 01:05:47,279 --> 01:05:51,920 facilities those are um in progress um 1419 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,960 and we're also working on the municipal 1420 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,119 growth um which will analyze of fature 1421 01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:01,079 growth and alignment with long range 1422 01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:03,279 vision and it will be based on 1423 01:06:03,279 --> 01:06:05,240 population projections and the needs of 1424 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,640 needs for land and 1425 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,559 infrastructure and then there will be an 1426 01:06:09,559 --> 01:06:12,559 Implement implementation section that 1427 01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:14,960 will discuss the metrics to measure the 1428 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,920 progress towards the goals that are 1429 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,240 mentioned throughout this entire 1430 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,440 document um if you have any questions on 1431 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:31,760 the content um Commissioners any questions 1432 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,279 comments not not on the actual content 1433 01:06:34,279 --> 01:06:37,829 but schedule-wise 1434 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:40,240 for I think you want to have another 1435 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,920 public meeting and then somewhere wrap 1436 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,480 up in the next three four five months or 1437 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,039 so that is right yeah um we're working 1438 01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,400 on putting together a concrete um 1439 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,760 schedule I know the Planning Commission 1440 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,400 wanted to um have have go out to public 1441 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,160 comment by March so that is something we 1442 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,109 would like to 1443 01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,920 do commissioner Hagen I just want to say 1444 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,000 for nil after working on this for the 1445 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,240 last year it's you've done an impressive 1446 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,440 job of working with the community and 1447 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,880 reaching out and with you know members 1448 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,079 to try to answer questions and Shepherd 1449 01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:21,319 it all through so you've done a great 1450 01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:23,599 job thank 1451 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,760 you I've only heard good things things 1452 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,520 too everybody who went to those 1453 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,359 workshops said um that you did a 1454 01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:32,520 wonderful job so thank you for the hard 1455 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,640 work thank you um commissioner swey did 1456 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,400 you have any no no I don't see any 1457 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,279 problems she has done wonderful 1458 01:07:40,279 --> 01:07:45,039 job thank you um I only know that um I 1459 01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:48,200 have a copy of the orig the 2015 I don't 1460 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,760 know if anybody else 1461 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,279 does uh we can make sure that everyone 1462 01:07:53,279 --> 01:07:56,760 else you do okay I don't did I get oh I 1463 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,880 have one I don't think I got did I get 1464 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,960 no okay I did not get one oh um yeah the 1465 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,680 Planning Commission members they all 1466 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,960 received one so that's proba why okay we 1467 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,640 can get you one we can talk later I 1468 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,960 don't want you to have to make another 1469 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,559 one if one doesn't exist so I might just 1470 01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:17,600 borrow one if if need be um but please 1471 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,159 don't print anymore if it they're going 1472 01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:22,080 to be outdated soon yeah J Bar mine any 1473 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,000 time want oh thank 1474 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,440 you um 1475 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:30,279 in the workshop are we looking as a town 1476 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:32,719 to become a Main Street 1477 01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:37,319 Maryland um town to make it official 1478 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:38,759 movie sustainable commity is that what 1479 01:08:38,759 --> 01:08:41,199 it is oh you know like um th Mountain 1480 01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:42,960 has the Main Street program is that 1481 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,960 something we're are we have a goal to 1482 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,480 aim towards as well right so from the 1483 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:51,400 public workshops we gathered that people 1484 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,920 do want to attain that um designation 1485 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,679 and for economic development that would 1486 01:08:58,679 --> 01:09:02,679 be one way to one step towards that sure 1487 01:09:02,679 --> 01:09:06,799 yeah sure that yeah because um I like 1488 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:08,679 how there's definitely thoughts about 1489 01:09:08,679 --> 01:09:10,600 you know targeting those vacant 1490 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,600 buildings or ones that have been left 1491 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,759 and um they're dilapidated so I know 1492 01:09:16,759 --> 01:09:19,920 that's Thurmont received a lot of money 1493 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,000 towards those towards their vacant 1494 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,960 buildings to incentivize businesses to 1495 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,359 come so that would align nicely I think 1496 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,799 with targeting some of those buildings 1497 01:09:29,799 --> 01:09:31,560 that could be turned into 1498 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,839 businesses um and then I saw here 1499 01:09:34,839 --> 01:09:37,440 support student housing by incentivizing 1500 01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:39,600 Property Owners to create safe livable 1501 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,799 residential units for Mount St Mary's is 1502 01:09:43,799 --> 01:09:47,080 that targeting The Village zone or is 1503 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,239 that because I would imagine the HOAs 1504 01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:53,040 would have jurisdiction over that within 1505 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,199 subdivisions so I was confused by that 1506 01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:02,760 okay um that can be clarified um so once 1507 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,560 these are done they will be um posted so 1508 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,640 that people can comment on it so if it 1509 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,239 doesn't it should apply to like the 1510 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,640 village zone or outside of Village Zone 1511 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,480 that's 1512 01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:15,920 something you know you as a board or the 1513 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,840 public they can all decide and I see 1514 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,560 just incorporate that yeah I 1515 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,440 see so all right so it's more this is 1516 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,280 just we're still in those like you're 1517 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,600 okay commissioner Hoover you're giving 1518 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,120 me this zoning would dictate that not 1519 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,480 necessary Village zone or or HOAs but 1520 01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:38,600 zoning itself is multi is a multi-use or 1521 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,000 high density use okay all right thank 1522 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,950 you that's all I have any other 1523 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,960 questions this doesn't require a vote in 1524 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,719 any way does it this was just a 1525 01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:52,679 presentation okay all right thank you 1526 01:10:52,679 --> 01:10:55,960 very much I know that um your slideshow 1527 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,199 was a lot of work and you did a good job 1528 01:10:58,199 --> 01:10:59,800 highlighting the differences in the 1529 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,040 updates and I appreciate it thank you 1530 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,600 thank 1531 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,679 you all 1532 01:11:06,679 --> 01:11:10,640 right moving on to number four discuss 1533 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:17,149 discussion related to FY 25 water 1534 01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:20,480 rates we do have some information in our 1535 01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:24,360 packets that was requested water um sip 1536 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,520 breakdown the breakdown water 1537 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,719 Revenue that we have as far as the 1538 01:11:29,719 --> 01:11:30,679 project 1539 01:11:30,679 --> 01:11:33,520 schedule 1540 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,800 um I don't uh Commissioners don't know 1541 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,080 how you want to tackle this did you want 1542 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,920 us to go through the 1543 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,560 attached information or are we ready to 1544 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:51,470 jump right into 1545 01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:55,600 discussion do notice on on page 44 on 1546 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,199 the water fund the 1547 01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:01,600 CIP that in page 45 the the red didn't 1548 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,520 show up when it got copied so just to 1549 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,480 note on FY 1550 01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:10,639 26 where it says 159 1551 01:12:10,639 --> 01:12:13,360 790 and then all the way out to fy3 1552 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,600 that's all in the red that should have 1553 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,760 showed up 1554 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,239 red and then the same thing for the 1555 01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:23,440 total revenue from FY 26 to 1556 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:29,440 7779 out to year 30 that's all uh red as 1557 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,520 well wait where's the second one I'm 1558 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,679 sorry under total R toal Revenue gotcha 1559 01:12:34,679 --> 01:12:38,990 thank you and 1560 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,520 then then under so page 44 page 44 if 1561 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,679 top top row cash reserves estimated 1562 01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:49,199 where you see FY 1563 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:53,719 26 159 790 yep that's actually in the 1564 01:12:53,719 --> 01:12:57,080 red okay and then it stays in the red 1565 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,800 through 27 28 29 and 1566 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,440 30 and then if you drop down to the last 1567 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:08,590 row in that section under total 1568 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,880 revenue it starts in the red at the 1569 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:20,270 7779 and carries 1570 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,900 out and 1571 01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:23,400 [Music] 1572 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,719 then if you drop down to Total cash 1573 01:13:27,719 --> 01:13:32,470 available on the bottom of page 1574 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:35,360 44 starting at 1575 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:42,110 16905 and out is red as 1576 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:47,270 well 1577 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,400 169 all the way down at the bottom in 1578 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,679 the book yes where it says total cash 1579 01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:56,480 available on page 44 oh okay okay and 1580 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,550 then on page 1581 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,590 45 I add 1582 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,870 here system 1583 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,800 upgrades in the end of FY 1584 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,600 25 where it shows 159 1585 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,480 790 red and that all the way out then 1586 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:26,669 should be red where it says Surplus deficit 1587 01:14:26,679 --> 01:14:28,560 got it that's it that's I just want to 1588 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,800 point that out since it didn't show up 1589 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,960 in your 1590 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:39,350 packet okay thank 1591 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,830 you back 1592 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,560 on okay where would we like to be in the 1593 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:51,920 discussion commissioner Hoover sure so Kathy thanks for that clarification 1594 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,960 so I'm assuming then that they're in the 1595 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,790 red based on 1596 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,679 page 46 is 1597 01:15:00,679 --> 01:15:04,360 projects being performed right so if you 1598 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,360 look let me just jump up to the top 1599 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,320 here so you start in the 1600 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,760 red at the top of page 44 the water fund 1601 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,719 FY 26 at the negative 1602 01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:21,560 9790 yes and that 1603 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:26,280 is because of all your um system 1604 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,320 projects it would be in FY 25 you'd have 1605 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,719 the clarifier completion the completion 1606 01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:36,960 date for the clarifier is October of 1607 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,639 25 1608 01:15:38,639 --> 01:15:41,440 um the North seatan Avenue waterline 1609 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:43,320 project now that one's estimated because 1610 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,679 I don't know when it's actually going to 1611 01:15:46,679 --> 01:15:50,800 start um and then the depal street 1 1612 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,000 that with that project being complete in 1613 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,960 April of 255 all the money should be 1614 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,800 spent on the depal street waterline by 1615 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,719 the close of 1616 01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:05,560 fy2 um some of these other projects um 1617 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,320 the Rainbow Lake pump pouch Bridge 1618 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,199 placement that actually should be done 1619 01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:10,920 by the end of the 1620 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,120 year um the Rainbow Lake Dam repairs or 1621 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,760 the Rainbow Lake repairs we don't know 1622 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,639 the cost associated with that yet until 1623 01:16:18,639 --> 01:16:20,920 we receive the final report in a couple 1624 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,840 of weeks the initial report on the 1625 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,719 leadline service replacement is we are 1626 01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:29,639 probably going to have to sample so we 1627 01:16:29,639 --> 01:16:31,320 had approximately 1628 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:32,880 500 1629 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,960 um 1630 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,440 non-responses and of those 500 we'll 1631 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,280 probably have to sample about a 100 and 1632 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,400 the estimated cost for each to sample is 1633 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:44,360 about 1634 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:49,120 $700 each so we're estimating about 1635 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,760 $70,000 to perform what need what mde 1636 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,760 requires to show what the Le what the 1637 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,719 lines are when you say sample do you 1638 01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:01,199 mean going because they didn't respond 1639 01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:04,280 via the survey so so the the 1640 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,600 verification is is 1641 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,600 twofold so a lot of people responded by 1642 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,480 the survey but didn't do the 1643 01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:13,679 photograph um some of them we were able 1644 01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:16,159 to verify based off the survey and plans 1645 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:17,920 and but there are some that no 1646 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,920 absolutely no response given and there's 1647 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,159 no second form of um verification so 1648 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,560 there's two options to verify you can 1649 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,120 excavate which means digging up yards 1650 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,600 digging up sidewalks digging up roads 1651 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,960 and then you have to restore that cost 1652 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,840 is estimated to be more than 1653 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,159 $700 um staff went and watched a demo 1654 01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:45,760 where they can go in with a camera and 1655 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,960 camera will it can camera the line and 1656 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,920 you can basically kill two birds with 1657 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,280 Sunstone you can see the service line 1658 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,800 and our line so if you if you remember 1659 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,679 the your sewer line the town has a 1660 01:17:58,679 --> 01:18:01,679 portion up the initial portion and then 1661 01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:03,880 you have your service line anyway so 1662 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,880 it's estimated about $700 each and if we 1663 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,840 have to sample 1664 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,679 100 you're at $70,000 on that and then 1665 01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:16,679 there are requirements to replace so we 1666 01:18:16,679 --> 01:18:19,719 know of two lead lines so far and 1667 01:18:19,719 --> 01:18:23,040 approximately 13 is it non-galvanized or 1668 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,960 gavanized I can't remember 1669 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,120 galvaniz so a galvaniz has to be 1670 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,080 replaced as well and I believe as of 1671 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,760 right now there's 13 so that's at least 1672 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,800 15 that are going to have to be replaced 1673 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,719 and we'll start looking for funding on 1674 01:18:37,719 --> 01:18:41,280 that we have a meeting coming up anyway 1675 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,520 that's how you get to the negative 1676 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,719 commissioner Hoover is is taking all the 1677 01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:46,639 revenue that we've received for the 1678 01:18:46,639 --> 01:18:49,800 projects and then backing out the the 1679 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,280 cost of the projects the timing could be 1680 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:53,880 off a little bit with like with the 1681 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,000 North seatan uh waterline uh we have 1682 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,679 incurred some expense on the engineering 1683 01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:03,400 side um nothing on the construction side 1684 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,960 yet that's hoping to go out to bid 1685 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,149 within the next C 1686 01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:11,520 months um we are looking for funding 1687 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,480 right now for the West Main Street water 1688 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:16,800 line and the Waynesboro Pike 1689 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,320 waterline um that just went out to bid 1690 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,159 for engineering 1691 01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:24,760 cost because there are we have fixed an 1692 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,760 enormous amount of leaks on West Main 1693 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,600 and 1694 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,639 Waynesboro the mayor would like us to 1695 01:19:30,639 --> 01:19:32,800 look at a bond Initiative for that 1696 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,400 project through the state of 1697 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,709 Maryland for that 1698 01:19:40,719 --> 01:19:43,440 one um going back to the lead line the 1699 01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,280 requirement to replace that falls on the 1700 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,440 town uh we're still working through that 1701 01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:49,880 anything that's 1702 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,280 Townline would be our 1703 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,800 responsibility um 1704 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,840 reached out to our consultant to give me 1705 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,480 if they were aware of any funding um 1706 01:20:01,480 --> 01:20:04,520 options you know the cost to fix your 1707 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,159 line depending on how long your line is going to be a huge burden on our 1708 01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:10,800 residents and hopefully the town can 1709 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,080 secure some funding to assist with that 1710 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,880 um but we're right in the beginning 1711 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,320 stages right now you do have until 20 30 1712 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,880 you have till 2030 to make all the the 1713 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,719 ne necessary replacements 1714 01:20:25,719 --> 01:20:29,480 can I ask the question um the 500 that 1715 01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:32,280 has not received were they all all over 1716 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,760 the town or just in the old part of the 1717 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:34,840 town all 1718 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,639 over all over because um when when you 1719 01:20:37,639 --> 01:20:39,960 do uh North seatting you'll be able to 1720 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,159 see when they replace the line they'll 1721 01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,480 be able to see if it's ganized or not 1722 01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,920 correct yes and the the Paul Street you 1723 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,719 should be able to see now when they redo 1724 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:50,679 theirs right so they are they going to 1725 01:20:50,679 --> 01:20:55,560 replace them as they go or to Copper so 1726 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,440 they're just replacing the main on the 1727 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,679 right now right but you'll know you can 1728 01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:03,920 you'll mark down which ones are I 1729 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,080 believe they're doing that I believe 1730 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,400 they were looking at the service lines 1731 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,000 as they are going through right it's my 1732 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,600 understanding but I can find out for 1733 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,440 sure I know mine on North seatan was 1734 01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,280 galvanized I had it replaced with copper 1735 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,679 completely out to the town's right curb 1736 01:21:18,679 --> 01:21:21,880 stop it was galvanized 34 it was no 1737 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,239 bigger my pinky and you couldn't even 1738 01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:25,560 see through so imagine the other old 1739 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,400 houses through 1740 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,149 there 1741 01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:34,960 yeah so on the on page 44 Miss Willets 1742 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:40,430 where it says um cash reserves 1743 01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:43,719 estimated um does this take into account 1744 01:21:43,719 --> 01:21:46,480 our current water rate increase the way 1745 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:51,199 it stands now the cash reserves 1746 01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:52,880 yes 1747 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,760 so even if we keep it 36% for 5 years 1748 01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,960 potentially we're still in the 1749 01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:02,400 red actually I need to ask that question 1750 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,760 because I'm not let me go back through 1751 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,159 my budget and make sure that that's 1752 01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:09,560 correct because that I mean that's a 1753 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,560 important piece of information but 1754 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,760 also this also assumes we don't get 1755 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,760 funding correct on these projects like 1756 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,719 no this does include your funding for 1757 01:22:21,719 --> 01:22:22,639 the 1758 01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:27,000 clarifier the North seat and Avenue line 1759 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,120 project it does include any funding 1760 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,920 we've already received right but not 1761 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,520 future funding right right it does not 1762 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,080 include any funding for the West Main 1763 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,840 Street water line or the line down the 1764 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,520 mountain any future projects that we 1765 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,159 haven't submitted for no it does not 1766 01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:44,880 right it only does I believe North 1767 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:52,950 seatan to Paul Street and our arpa 1768 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,159 projects yeah and you can see our tap 1769 01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:58,639 fees on that second line how how 1770 01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:02,080 important our tap fees play into 1771 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,880 our our reserves or cash 1772 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,430 reserves that's 1773 01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:12,920 correct and that assumes that I mean the 1774 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,800 41,000 each year those are just 1775 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,080 estimates based on what's coming down 1776 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,800 the pipe through potential 1777 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,560 annexation um yes so what we do is we we work with Theo on any development 1778 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,400 project she might have the pipeline and 1779 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,440 try to estimate what we will get in that 1780 01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:30,639 fiscal year um so this fiscal year we 1781 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:32,320 estimated 1782 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,560 from um two development projects that we 1783 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,639 had that we knew of and that would have 1784 01:23:37,639 --> 01:23:39,880 been Christ Community Church and 1785 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:45,990 possibly The 1786 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:52,950 Distillery so if tap 1787 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,440 fees I feel like that should be higher 1788 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,679 CU I don't our tap I mean how many 1789 01:23:58,679 --> 01:24:01,320 households would that then incorporate 1790 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,280 into that estimate so 82,000 is is 10 1791 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,239 Taps right 10s we're assuming maybe five 1792 01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:12,600 Taps between FY 27 1793 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,560 fy3 yeah so per year per year so each 1794 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,440 year we estimated that many just because 1795 01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:22,719 we don't know right that we have nothing 1796 01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:25,760 concrete outside of safe no right The 1797 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,239 Distillery 1798 01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:31,719 and Christ Community Church right now 1799 01:24:31,719 --> 01:24:36,239 right but if there is an annexation or 1800 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:37,360 the 1801 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,159 um fry farm development that's being 1802 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:43,840 looked at I saw it within the meetings 1803 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,080 that you're having um is that's for the 1804 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,520 part that's already annexed in or is 1805 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,480 that in addition to it's both both both 1806 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:53,600 the annexation or the the part that's 1807 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,719 already in town as well as a part that 1808 01:24:55,719 --> 01:24:57,840 would be annexed you also have the 1809 01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,880 potential of EMT Ridge I think that's 1810 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,040 probably your best and only potential 1811 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,320 within FY 35 time frame other than the 1812 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,520 two like you said the church and 1813 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,320 Distillery time you get 1814 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,040 fairly ready to start buying Taps I 1815 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,639 think You' be very close or beyond the 1816 01:25:15,639 --> 01:25:18,560 fy3 okay you might have EMT Ridge I 1817 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:19,760 think you're definitely well yeah you 1818 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,239 should have if they move forward you 1819 01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:26,360 would have EMT Ridge within that time frame but we just don't know so 1820 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,159 that's why it's not on there sure the 1821 01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:30,080 final Fe at 1822 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,239 um Southgate and the final F Brookfield 1823 01:25:33,239 --> 01:25:35,440 maybe we have 10 in Brookfield are we 1824 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:38,719 down to two in Southgate do we um I 1825 01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:40,520 thought there was another one that sold 1826 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,840 I just don't know which one but but 1827 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,119 selling is not necessarily buying the T 1828 01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:46,960 correct by the time they get their 1829 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,080 permits and this whatever you could be 1830 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,400 another year or show down the road for 1831 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,480 that correct and that's why I say frarly 1832 01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:54,360 you're probably four or five years 1833 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,119 before they're anywhere close to a grant 1834 01:25:56,119 --> 01:25:59,239 to a um building permit okay you think 1835 01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:00,080 you 1836 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,400 agree so I think you're only one really 1837 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,080 is going to be your endit Ridge as far 1838 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,520 as new development in this in this time 1839 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,560 frame 1840 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,719 okay Wednesday Tuesday here may whatever 1841 01:26:11,719 --> 01:26:14,800 but yeah understood and I think that's 1842 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:20,000 only 30 or 20 couple whatever in Rage 40 1843 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,639 48 um the other thing that it doesn't 1844 01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:27,239 under Debt 1845 01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,119 Service we don't have The Debt Service 1846 01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:32,040 listed of whatever will be 1847 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,960 incurred for the never mind I take that 1848 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,320 back there are no loans with the Paul 1849 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,000 Street so I take that back we don't know 1850 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:45,679 what the loans will be for North seatan 1851 01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:49,440 project I guess I keep going back to if 1852 01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:52,040 we're in the red as of FY 1853 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,239 26 but we don't know if this 1854 01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:57,480 incorporates our current 36% increase so 1855 01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:01,000 your 36% increase affects your your 1856 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,920 water fund your operating fund and then 1857 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:09,600 any cash Reserve that would be left from 1858 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,960 fiscal from fiscal year end of fiscal 1859 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,320 year into the next one that would be 1860 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,760 added to your cash reserves so the 1861 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,159 initial 1862 01:27:19,159 --> 01:27:21,480 36% is in 1863 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:28,520 here for your um FY 24 and 1864 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,760 fy2 fy2 excuse me 1865 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,600 um but then the cash will accumulate if 1866 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,239 you have money left over at the end of 1867 01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:38,520 your fiscal 1868 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,560 year so that's how it affects your cash 1869 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,199 reserves so which we don't really have 1870 01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:47,760 cash reserves right now do we we kind of 1871 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,000 like transfer them all at the end we so 1872 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,639 for your water fund you do have cash 1873 01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:55,320 reserves you have cash reserves in your 1874 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,400 water fund of roughly 1875 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,760 26 1876 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,159 million and that's however remembering 1877 01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:06,280 2.5 of that is arpa money right that 1878 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,360 will be spent by the end of calendar 1879 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,679 year 25 right and what's that allocated 1880 01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:14,199 for what project is that allocated so 1881 01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:16,560 the majority of it goes to your water 1882 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,639 clarifier that was pull my chart up 1883 01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:24,880 and computer's jumping on me okay 1884 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,600 hold on so the majority of your arper 1885 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,800 money goes to the 1886 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,800 clarifier um which is roughly uh 2.1 1887 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,639 million uh 412,000 to the depal street 1888 01:28:39,639 --> 01:28:42,280 waterline 300,000 went to revenue 1889 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,199 replacement and FY 24 for water um 1890 01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:46,560 operating 1891 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,199 expenses 160 replace the Rainbow Lake 1892 01:28:50,199 --> 01:28:53,320 bridge 148,000 for the backwash project 1893 01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:57,320 at the water treat plant and 73,000 for 1894 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:05,470 the Rainbow Lake uh Dam 1895 01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:08,920 engineer I think that's why um I mean 1896 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,320 looking at this even if we keep 36% 1897 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,119 looks like we might as well just get 1898 01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:15,280 absorbed into freder County I mean 1899 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,840 there's no way that the people in 1900 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,760 Emmitsburg are going to be able to foot 1901 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,080 this 1902 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,679 bill 1903 01:29:22,679 --> 01:29:25,400 so and should they be expected to if 1904 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,600 it's an unattainable 1905 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,679 goal so so where I'm going with this is 1906 01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:33,159 there are other things that I think we 1907 01:29:33,159 --> 01:29:35,480 need to be looking at as well like 1908 01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:38,520 historically we've as a town made a lot 1909 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,400 of concessions for businesses that came 1910 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,000 in 1911 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,360 including um maybe lowering tap fees not 1912 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,400 raising impact fees that in in general 1913 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,400 we need to go back and look at that 1914 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,679 um but while I understand and 1915 01:29:56,679 --> 01:29:58,600 appreciate that we want to bring 1916 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,239 businesses and developments here I don't 1917 01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:02,840 think we should be making concessions 1918 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,679 that are then going to hurt our bottom 1919 01:30:04,679 --> 01:30:06,000 line and it's going to put the burden 1920 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,400 back on our 1921 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,880 residents 1922 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,040 um 1923 01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,719 so 1924 01:30:13,719 --> 01:30:17,119 um thoughts 1925 01:30:17,119 --> 01:30:19,880 questions I would just agree with you 1926 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,520 it's like that loss we can't push it 1927 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,040 back we already have a lot of residents 1928 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,600 having problems with the increase we 1929 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,159 have now to increase it now push it over 1930 01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:30,840 the 1931 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,950 edge 1932 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,520 right the bottom line the bottom line 1933 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,639 commissioner B is you need growth and 1934 01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:42,800 you need your TAP fees and that's the 1935 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360 only way it's going to continue to grow 1936 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,520 um you're right you can't raise the 1937 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,199 rates high enough to to do all the 1938 01:30:52,199 --> 01:30:54,199 projects that need to be done for some 1939 01:30:54,199 --> 01:31:01,880 of these infrastructure projects that just have to be done and or you can 1940 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,560 continue to waste money just continuing 1941 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,960 to put Band-Aids on it um and we 1942 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,280 continue to to continue to look for the 1943 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,199 funding for them you know through grants 1944 01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:14,800 hopefully um but the bottom line is 1945 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,639 you're right you need you need growth 1946 01:31:17,639 --> 01:31:21,000 and the tap fees whether you raise them 1947 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,480 or not are very important to your water 1948 01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:24,800 fund 1949 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,239 because the cost I mean and as we all 1950 01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:29,280 know the cost of everything is it's just 1951 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,600 it's skyrocketing right and you know 1952 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,159 looking at the numbers and talking it 1953 01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:36,280 over with with mayor Davis who I think 1954 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,470 is still on the call 1955 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:43,159 um I honestly think you need you know we 1956 01:31:43,159 --> 01:31:45,679 look we ran some numbers and you know 1957 01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:48,000 honestly think if you keep it at the 36% 1958 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,760 through the rest of this fiscal year and 1959 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,719 then reduce it to something much more 1960 01:31:51,719 --> 01:31:54,080 manageable for people I think you'll in 1961 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,920 a much better position and that will 1962 01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,800 give time for hopefully some of these 1963 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,520 developments to at least get the ball 1964 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,440 rolling and come to fruition and that 1965 01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:09,360 will help us plan a lot better um 1966 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,000 there's certain projects on the CIP that can be put on hold like the water 1967 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,280 meter upgrade project it would be 1968 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,800 fantastic for the town and I think it's 1969 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,480 a great project but in the long run it's 1970 01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:23,679 a want it's a want it it will help us 1971 01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:26,679 with water loss and managing leaks and 1972 01:32:26,679 --> 01:32:29,040 people knowing when they have high 1973 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,239 usage but it is a want and it's it's a 1974 01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,560 bells and whistles project that is 1975 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,520 probably further down the road um these 1976 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,119 and you've heard mayor Davis say these 1977 01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:41,480 federal and state 1978 01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:44,239 mandates are killing small towns you 1979 01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:46,560 know the ms4 the leadline service 1980 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,639 inventory you 1981 01:32:48,639 --> 01:32:51,239 know the dam inspection you know they're 1982 01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:52,800 all unexpected costs that you can't 1983 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,480 really plan for 1984 01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:56,920 and we keep waiting for what's 1985 01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,960 next well I would agree with what you 1986 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,520 said a minute ago is that you know the 1987 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,760 36% I I would actually agreed I had a 1988 01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,360 little discussion that carrying the 36% 1989 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,639 we already have it this year leave it 1990 01:33:07,639 --> 01:33:09,840 alone but I think you know then next 1991 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,400 year where we have it for a fiveyear 1992 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,000 plan I don't I can't I can't I can't I 1993 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,320 can't foresee us carrying that through 1994 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,719 um after this year I think we should 1995 01:33:19,719 --> 01:33:22,159 stop it and then probably go more to the 1996 01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,480 I think in the current ordinance is a a 1997 01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:30,560 mandated 3% um my opinion that is I mean 1998 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:31,840 I don't know there should be a man I 1999 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,840 don't I don't agree there should be a 2000 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:33,960 mandated but I do think there should be 2001 01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,560 a mandated annually review and verif 2002 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,320 kind of like with your taxes you know 2003 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:39,880 taxes are mandated every year that you 2004 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,360 review them and you and you make a 2005 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:42,679 determination I'm going to raise them 2006 01:33:42,679 --> 01:33:44,080 I'm not going to raise them I'm going to 2007 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,239 reduce them or whatever it is may be and 2008 01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:47,760 I think that should be a mandate 2009 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,080 annually that has done and I think the 2010 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,440 then the rate to be increased or not if 2011 01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:55,119 Commission had to make a make a decision 2012 01:33:55,119 --> 01:33:57,639 to raise it or not raise it and if they 2013 01:33:57,639 --> 01:34:00,400 raise it to raise it to not exceed the 2014 01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,360 CPI the CPI of that year um I sort of 2015 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:05,840 said that once before but I said you 2016 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:07,800 know we would try to cut back this year 2017 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,440 but I got the numbers that that staff 2018 01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:12,520 provided me with and based on that you 2019 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,480 know in FY 23 before we done an increase 2020 01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:20,199 we brought in $435,000 in change and 2021 01:34:20,199 --> 01:34:22,440 then FY 2022 01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:24,960 24 we brought in 2023 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,440 a after the first 2024 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:31,520 increase brought in 628 th000 and we're 2025 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,880 on we're on target now assuming with 36% 2026 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,520 of that You' bring in 855 which is 2027 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,840 almost double prior to the tax and from 2028 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,920 an operating perspective I 2029 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,040 think for operating wise that should be 2030 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,880 surfaced now I think also additionally 2031 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,000 we need to look at come back and look at 2032 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,960 you see in the paper that we have in our 2033 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,679 last page page 48 page 48 of 2034 01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:03,280 49 appreciation 4849 yeah the 2035 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,480 depreciation cost in there which is just 2036 01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:08,560 government paper money U that doesn't 2037 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,080 exist um that's that depreciation fund 2038 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:16,520 of 668,000 in FY 23 and 84,000 in 2039 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,639 FY uh 2040 01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:21,360 24 that's that's monies that's costing 2041 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,800 all these projects you know where 2042 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,719 everything's depreciated but that 2043 01:35:25,719 --> 01:35:27,880 depreciation is not being funded and 2044 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,080 many many years ago we had we had a 2045 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,480 funding source for that and I think 2046 01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:35,080 rather than doing the 36% increase I 2047 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,840 think we should be looking at do we need 2048 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,679 to establish a funding source or does 2049 01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:42,159 the operating money with the new rates 2050 01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:44,639 the current new rates is there 2051 01:35:44,639 --> 01:35:46,480 sufficient there to to create a funding 2052 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,679 source for depreciation so when things 2053 01:35:48,679 --> 01:35:51,480 do fail we have more money available and 2054 01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:54,000 I realize there a depreciation fund may 2055 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,280 be another cost somewhere down the road 2056 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,679 this year next year the following year 2057 01:35:57,679 --> 01:35:59,520 somewhere but I 2058 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,760 think the depreciation of the equipment 2059 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,280 in both sore and water but we're a 2060 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,440 talking about water right now should be 2061 01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:10,440 what's looked at next and to find out 2062 01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:12,159 where does that money come from and 2063 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:14,639 where how do we how do we get get ahead 2064 01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:17,520 of it instead of like we are now behind 2065 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,280 it way behind it 2066 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,280 um but but I would agree that I think 2067 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,159 you know we follow out through this year 2068 01:36:25,159 --> 01:36:27,400 do not do any more substantial increases 2069 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:28,880 of 2070 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,639 36% and then come to a conclusion an 2071 01:36:31,639 --> 01:36:33,320 ordinance 2072 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,520 to revamp that that remaining three 2073 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,520 years to be just CPI or something of 2074 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:41,880 that in my 2075 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,920 opinion that neighborhood and agree to 2076 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,880 establish a funding source for funding 2077 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,800 for um depreciation as I said and you 2078 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,760 could do it similar to what you do for 2079 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,719 your budgets how you have a set second 2080 01:36:56,719 --> 01:36:58,920 meeting of May is always your budget 2081 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,440 meeting solely you could determine what 2082 01:37:02,440 --> 01:37:05,119 month in every year that you want to 2083 01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:09,159 hold a water rate only second meeting to 2084 01:37:09,159 --> 01:37:11,000 set your rates it can be a public 2085 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,840 hearing and then you can set your rates 2086 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,520 and that way 2087 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,960 it's it's consistent you do it every 2088 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,159 probably February or March so that then 2089 01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:22,840 we have the information for the budget 2090 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,080 going forward 2091 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,639 and you revisit it every year and then 2092 01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:28,639 you stay on top of it and then we won't 2093 01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:32,159 get into this position gigantic mess it 2094 01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:37,320 won't be yes not blaming nobody I'm not no just to be 2095 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,080 clear I'm just it's not where we this is 2096 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,679 where we're at so we got we go to we got 2097 01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:42,719 to do whatever we got to do to get out 2098 01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:46,199 of it but um so and then but whatever we 2099 01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:47,560 do we got to look at for what's it going 2100 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,520 to do for the next 20 30 50 years from 2101 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,159 now that we're not the next group of 2102 01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:53,760 people sitting up here aren't up with 2103 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:54,800 the same 2104 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,199 nonsense right and I think there's other 2105 01:37:57,199 --> 01:37:58,920 things that we can look at that may not 2106 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,760 be pertinent to the discussion tonight 2107 01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,760 but like you said like looking at our um 2108 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:07,080 connection fees and be cognizant when 2109 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,599 businesses and developers come into town 2110 01:38:09,599 --> 01:38:11,520 that we're 2111 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,560 not making such a 2112 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,040 wonderful deal to make it attractive for 2113 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:19,320 them that's going to put the burden back 2114 01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,239 on our residents to pick up the slap 2115 01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,520 because residents or businesses that are 2116 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,719 coming into town or buying into an 2117 01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:30,119 existing water system that right now is 2118 01:38:30,119 --> 01:38:32,679 only shared by not a lot of 2119 01:38:32,679 --> 01:38:34,840 people and 2120 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,920 uh so I think I think we need to be 2121 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,199 cognizant of the town of the Town moving 2122 01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:44,599 forward with that I like the idea of 2123 01:38:44,599 --> 01:38:47,880 ride out the 36% or until the end of 2124 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,360 this year because we're already halfway 2125 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,159 through the I mean by the time we make 2126 01:38:51,159 --> 01:38:52,119 it into by the time we get another 2127 01:38:52,119 --> 01:38:54,159 ordinance it be January February way to 2128 01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:57,400 get one past right to to to change it so 2129 01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,280 I think you 2130 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,480 just the rate is set um the money there 2131 01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:04,920 is money as that's needed but take the 2132 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:06,239 big burden we got the burden it's 2133 01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:07,320 already 2134 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,719 here live with what we've done and 2135 01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:14,360 accept it but not do any more 2136 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,080 substantial increases is 2137 01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,560 my but like I say at the same time start 2138 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,880 looking for a depreciation funding 2139 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,000 source how do we make that happen 2140 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,800 okay um and what and what is 2141 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,119 depreciation what are we what are we 2142 01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:29,599 funding with that okay make sure that's 2143 01:39:29,599 --> 01:39:31,080 established as well 2144 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,320 that you know your operating money that 2145 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,040 we get with this money that we're 2146 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,599 talking about to me is operating so it's 2147 01:39:37,599 --> 01:39:40,560 like your day-to-day stuff fixing a leak 2148 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,400 or repairing minor stuff or whatever but 2149 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,880 new water lines new new new new pumps 2150 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,440 and new new equipment even even new new 2151 01:39:50,440 --> 01:39:55,199 vehicles and trucks so that's that's depreciation all that all 2152 01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:59,870 that's got a depreciation funds 2153 01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,520 right to keep it to 36 to the end of the 2154 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,280 year to the um can you say that louder 2155 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,840 in the microphone I yeah I want to keep 2156 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,280 it at 2157 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,800 36% to the end of this year and then go 2158 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,159 and revisit every year after that yeah I 2159 01:40:15,159 --> 01:40:17,480 think the idea that we make it you know 2160 01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:21,440 scheduled every year to do that is ideal 2161 01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:24,040 going forward um and the only other 2162 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,320 question I had you mentioned that there 2163 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,239 could be some grants or anything out 2164 01:40:27,239 --> 01:40:29,119 there with us continuing to run and 2165 01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:32,400 increasing the loss does that limit our 2166 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,360 ability to get grants or have an impact 2167 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:35,280 on 2168 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:41,760 it so USDA looks at USDA looks at your rates to see if they're competitive 2169 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,880 with or not competitive that one you're 2170 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,080 self- sustaining but two that similar 2171 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,599 systems have about the similar rate so 2172 01:40:49,599 --> 01:40:51,560 they're not subsidizing somebody a 2173 01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,320 municipality that's can't pay their own 2174 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:58,280 bills we've shown great effort to raise 2175 01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,880 our rates and to 2176 01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,800 make leaps in the right direction I 2177 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,080 don't foresee it being an issue with 2178 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,159 USDA we talked to them quite a bit about 2179 01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:10,159 it um we're going to be testing the 2180 01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:12,760 waters with them here fairly soon on on 2181 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,880 another project but I I don't think so I 2182 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,280 don't think it's going to be a problem 2183 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:19,920 as long as we're showing and this is 2184 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,320 what they told me a good faith effort 2185 01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,000 that you are moving in the right 2186 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,599 direction that you're just not sitting 2187 01:41:24,599 --> 01:41:25,760 there and doing 2188 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,119 nothing but but also let me understand 2189 01:41:28,119 --> 01:41:30,599 correctly the deficits that we show here 2190 01:41:30,599 --> 01:41:33,239 the projected 2191 01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:35,280 deficits other than the grants that we 2192 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,119 already have that takes no it doesn't 2193 01:41:38,119 --> 01:41:40,320 have anything that takes consideration 2194 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,520 that grants will be grants not loans but 2195 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:44,480 grants will be provided and the 2196 01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:46,040 likelihood of that is pretty good odds 2197 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,599 that some or all them projects will get 2198 01:41:48,599 --> 01:41:51,840 some sort of funding right so um like 2199 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,080 the depal street one because of arpa 2200 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,320 that is all solely Grant funded and arpa 2201 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,880 funded so that's when the Project's done 2202 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,440 we don't have any loans to pay back and 2203 01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:03,719 arpa is now gone after this right arper 2204 01:42:03,719 --> 01:42:06,040 is ARA now gone after this completely 2205 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,800 once we spend this whatever it was yes 2206 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:10,679 there's no future Ora money not that 2207 01:42:10,679 --> 01:42:15,679 I've heard that's I wouldn't think so um 2208 01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:18,520 so so why the deficits that we see or 2209 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,159 the or the projected 2210 01:42:21,159 --> 01:42:24,560 deficits is the worst case scenario 2211 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:32,400 probably yeah um but so USDA and other folks won't see that 2212 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,719 much of a deficit most likely um some 2213 01:42:35,719 --> 01:42:37,599 deficit maybe 2214 01:42:37,599 --> 01:42:39,199 right 2215 01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:43,040 but but also the likelihood of doing all 2216 01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,520 these projects in this time frame was 2217 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,040 gonna be damn 2218 01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,560 hard right going take a while to get 2219 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,599 them all lined up and scheduled and in 2220 01:42:50,599 --> 01:42:53,520 place to get it between now and fy3 you 2221 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,880 know maybe between now and FY 33 34 35 2222 01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,040 probably be more well unfortunately you 2223 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,280 look at the pump station start M and I 2224 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,599 started that in 2018 and here we are 2225 01:43:04,599 --> 01:43:07,239 completion is not gonna be till 2025 now 2226 01:43:07,239 --> 01:43:09,520 the Paul Street that one move fairly 2227 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,239 quickly but the other 2228 01:43:11,239 --> 01:43:13,360 ones they they don't then that's why we 2229 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:14,840 keep planning for them because they do 2230 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,719 take a long time to come you know to 2231 01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:19,639 actually happen yeah you know and th 2232 01:43:19,639 --> 01:43:22,239 those those timelines they estimates on 2233 01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:23,599 when things are going to be completed 2234 01:43:23,599 --> 01:43:24,800 when the money is going to be spent we 2235 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,280 know it's going to be 2236 01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,520 spent which timing that's a little what 2237 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,960 is a little 2238 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,960 different and one thing it was mentioned 2239 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:35,320 here before one thing just to remind 2240 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,840 everybody if we do any annexations 2241 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,040 There's an opportunity 2242 01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,239 too it's going to cost you to come to 2243 01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:44,639 down correct don't mean to put it 2244 01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:46,760 bluntly but it's going to cost you to 2245 01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,159 come to 2246 01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:51,119 town well and I think it should cost to 2247 01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:52,520 come to town because honestly 2248 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:53,560 everything's 2249 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,800 otherwise right so we can't we can't we 2250 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,920 can't bring somebody the town into the 2251 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:03,679 town and exacerbate the problem and and make this make the problem worse 2252 01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:05,639 without making them a part of the 2253 01:44:05,639 --> 01:44:07,560 solution not a bigger part of the 2254 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,560 problem 2255 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,400 correct 2256 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:16,350 right um additional 2257 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,000 comments do we want to give direction 2258 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,880 because this was just discussion as far 2259 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,270 as 2260 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,480 what we might want to see I think we did 2261 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:30,679 agree all of us 36% would stay I just 2262 01:44:30,679 --> 01:44:32,760 want to clarify it because we kind of 2263 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:34,400 for this year throughout this year the 2264 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,800 FY through FY 25 yeah and then after 2265 01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:44,669 that so do we want to bring 2266 01:44:44,679 --> 01:44:46,679 back we're going to need an amended 2267 01:44:46,679 --> 01:44:49,080 ordinance right but but but we're going 2268 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,719 to need that between now and 2269 01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:56,719 about May so I so for Budget purposes we typically really start diving into 2270 01:44:56,719 --> 01:44:57,400 the 2271 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,560 budget March 2272 01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:05,040 one um so my recommendation would be any decision you want to make on water 2273 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,800 rates would need to be done no later 2274 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,040 than the end of 2275 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,679 March um so we have time to really work 2276 01:45:11,679 --> 01:45:12,639 the 2277 01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:15,080 numbers so we need to schedule second 2278 01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,599 meeting for March already so you could 2279 01:45:16,599 --> 01:45:18,239 do a second meeting in March or a second 2280 01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:19,719 meeting in in we're gonna want to do it 2281 01:45:19,719 --> 01:45:20,800 sooner that because we're going want to 2282 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,199 see a draft we're going to see a draft 2283 01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,280 we say right we're short on time right 2284 01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:27,960 so I and I also would want to think let 2285 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,239 me add something to it before I forget 2286 01:45:29,239 --> 01:45:32,480 it um if we're going to review the rates 2287 01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:34,400 I also think you know it's 2288 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,159 not raise everything or raise nothing I 2289 01:45:37,159 --> 01:45:39,040 think we should you know allow to be 2290 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,199 we're raising just the consumption rate 2291 01:45:42,199 --> 01:45:48,119 or just the meter rate or both and that be both in water and 2292 01:45:48,119 --> 01:45:50,480 sewer right you could look at your basic 2293 01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:55,239 rate your your um ready to serve rates 2294 01:45:55,239 --> 01:45:57,280 yeah or and you can also look at your 2295 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:01,920 overage rates um right but but it's just 2296 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:02,920 that I don't want to make it to where 2297 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,000 it's one or the other All or Nothing 2298 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,960 yeah all or nothing you know we have 2299 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:11,360 flexibility we we we can adjust just the 2300 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:12,639 so if you're gonna look at all that I 2301 01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:14,119 would I think you need to start in 2302 01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:18,239 February so maybe we can bring 2303 01:46:18,239 --> 01:46:23,080 um clar or um somebody inate I don't 2304 01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,239 know have a discussion so they can come 2305 01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,320 back with a draft ordinance or 2306 01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,320 something so we don't have to give 2307 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,040 guidance as far as what we'd like to see 2308 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,159 yet until February I mean like we kind 2309 01:46:33,159 --> 01:46:36,159 of hatched it out a rough draft but do 2310 01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:37,800 we have to give direction and say to 2311 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,280 work on it in the meantime that's all 2312 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:43,480 I'm asking but I mean that that's the overall you could even start 2313 01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:45,800 with your discussion in January you 2314 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,599 could you could have it a discussion 2315 01:46:47,599 --> 01:46:50,360 give direction and then come back with 2316 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,159 something to really work on meat and 2317 01:46:52,159 --> 01:46:56,119 potatoes and February um I think we 2318 01:46:56,119 --> 01:46:59,080 should just have water done by itself 2319 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,199 not schedule other things with it get it 2320 01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,440 all done take care of kind like you do 2321 01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:08,280 for the budget yeah I mean because the second meeting 2322 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:09,719 should go quickly if we already have a 2323 01:47:09,719 --> 01:47:12,199 rough draft but then I guess that's with 2324 01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:13,880 Clark there you would need a public 2325 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,760 hearing then right before you actually 2326 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:20,639 adopt it right but not for the draft not draft and discussion 2327 01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:23,760 no right right just just the 2328 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,480 final 2329 01:47:25,480 --> 01:47:28,000 okay so then so then we want to just get 2330 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,760 direction then it says to to schedule 2331 01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,880 for a mid-month workshop in January to 2332 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,280 discuss water rates based off the 2333 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:48,950 discussion we had tonight yes all 2334 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,800 right Tuesdays we Tuesdays 2335 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,000 what you Avid any day but Monday not the 2336 01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:00,709 third Monday third Monday this we 2337 01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:03,320 know all right Miss Willis did you have 2338 01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,320 enough Direction based on that okay all 2339 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,199 right any further 2340 01:48:08,199 --> 01:48:13,119 comments questions no all 2341 01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:15,840 right 2342 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,480 then we we don't need to vote on that 2343 01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,239 because we're just giving guidance and 2344 01:48:20,239 --> 01:48:23,920 consensus so correct no 2345 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:28,910 we're good all 2346 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:33,950 right I lost my 2347 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,719 flow yeah but I took the there it 2348 01:48:37,719 --> 01:48:39,920 is your December meeting is gonna be on 2349 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,199 Tuesday that correct correct yes I say I 2350 01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:45,440 don't think I'm gonna be it's possible I 2351 01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:47,159 make zoom in but reception where I'm 2352 01:48:47,159 --> 01:48:50,560 going is not very good trust me so we're 2353 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:55,280 going to set the agenda for December you 2354 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:56,599 actually are you still going to have 2355 01:48:56,599 --> 01:48:58,480 your November 2356 01:48:58,480 --> 01:49:00,880 18th workshop at 2357 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:07,470 6:30 pm oh you weren't here 2358 01:49:07,480 --> 01:49:12,870 yes that was the mayor's 2359 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,400 idea 2360 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:20,109 Bud 2361 01:49:20,119 --> 01:49:25,599 um uh first item was discussion related to ordinance 2409 amending town 2362 01:49:25,599 --> 01:49:28,080 code to allow and establish requirements 2363 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:29,400 for student 2364 01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,440 housing and then number two was 2365 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,800 discussion related to ordinance 2366 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,599 24-10 amending town code to establish a 2367 01:49:36,599 --> 01:49:39,910 rental registration 2368 01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,400 program right we just we had um we 2369 01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,520 wanted to Workshop 2370 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,280 it and I believe your applicant and his 2371 01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:51,239 attorney will be here again as well as 2372 01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:54,830 Miss pal 2373 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,040 it's just 2374 01:49:56,040 --> 01:50:00,189 discussion 2375 01:50:00,199 --> 01:50:01,760 right 2376 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,000 okay and that is a 2377 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,280 Monday that is a Monday it's not the 2378 01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:07,679 third Monday though right yeah that's 2379 01:50:07,679 --> 01:50:09,199 fine I don't have anything oh that's 2380 01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:10,760 right that's right you you were off that 2381 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:12,320 day remember he made us jump through 2382 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,800 hoops J yes and I was so scarred by not 2383 01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,719 the third Monday the meeting gets cancel 2384 01:50:17,719 --> 01:50:21,080 that helps me out too so yeah okay um 2385 01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:24,040 yeah so that works and then December 2386 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:27,760 meeting do we have okay so then December 2387 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,920 3D town meeting um administrative 2388 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,440 business will be an update on the 2389 01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,480 leadline service inventory 2390 01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:40,679 project um I will have final numbers and 2391 01:50:40,679 --> 01:50:43,159 letters have to go out by November 15th 2392 01:50:43,159 --> 01:50:45,840 and we'll have some more updates by then 2393 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,560 uh for consent agenda for consideration 2394 01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:50,719 reappoint Jack poot to Parks and 2395 01:50:50,719 --> 01:50:53,079 Recreation committee with term of 2396 01:50:53,079 --> 01:51:00,350 December 2nd 2024 to December 2nd 2397 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,320 2026 and then I have five agenda items 2398 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,719 number one would be review review and 2399 01:51:07,719 --> 01:51:10,040 approval of design bid for the West Main 2400 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,079 Street and wesboro Pike waterline 2401 01:51:12,079 --> 01:51:15,430 replacement project for 2402 01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:17,960 consideration number two would be for 2403 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,040 consideration approve or reject the 2404 01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,320 request from Mr Robert a Fritz Jr to 2405 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,440 acquire a RightWay from the town's 2406 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:30,870 property on Hampton Valley 2407 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,679 Road number three for consideration 2408 01:51:33,679 --> 01:51:47,669 approval of resolution 2409 01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:50,079 2024-25 2410 01:51:50,079 --> 01:51:53,480 r nonprofit payment plan plan for water 2411 01:51:53,480 --> 01:51:56,639 and sewer connection 2412 01:51:56,639 --> 01:51:59,880 fees and then number five U for 2413 01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,400 consideration approval of bid for the 2414 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,800 town of emmittsburg sewer line camera 2415 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:11,950 project 2416 01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:16,040 okay um and I know we discussed a 2417 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,360 workshop in 2418 01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,880 December for the FY 24 audit 2419 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,639 presentation 2420 01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:24,520 and the discussion related to Water and 2421 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,109 Sewer connection 2422 01:52:28,119 --> 01:52:30,880 fees and speaking with the Auditors they 2423 01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,480 would pref they are available on the 9th 2424 01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:38,000 oh gosh that's week December between 2425 01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:41,639 tree lighting a regular town meeting 2426 01:52:41,639 --> 01:52:45,040 Monday oh my 2427 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,199 goodness that is completely up to you 2428 01:52:48,199 --> 01:52:51,719 guys H it sounded like a good idea at 2429 01:52:51,719 --> 01:52:53,400 the time but 2430 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,159 December's busy do we have to have this 2431 01:52:56,159 --> 01:52:59,639 workshop for the Auditors I can push 2432 01:52:59,639 --> 01:53:02,280 them till January it's typically when 2433 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,599 they come in January they typically they 2434 01:53:04,599 --> 01:53:05,480 come in 2435 01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:07,880 January commissioner Hoover I know you 2436 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:09,719 were out we were talking about that 2437 01:53:09,719 --> 01:53:12,040 second meeting in December and it you 2438 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,440 said it was for presentation for the 2439 01:53:14,440 --> 01:53:16,480 Auditors and then we were going to 2440 01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:18,360 potentially look at Water and Sewer 2441 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,400 connection fees connection fees I'm 2442 01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,510 thinking 2443 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,119 it sounded good at the time and now it 2444 01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:27,040 doesn't sound so good because they can 2445 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,920 only meet on December 9th which would 2446 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,280 put like tree lighting regular town 2447 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,280 meeting and the workshop like in the 2448 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:34,370 span of seven 2449 01:53:34,370 --> 01:53:36,639 [Music] 2450 01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:39,040 days and it's a holiday month I would 2451 01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:42,470 like to 2452 01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:47,189 postpone 2453 01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:50,480 thoughts we're going to meet at 4:30 now 2454 01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:53,750 amm 2455 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,280 January's fine with me for the thank you 2456 01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,280 commissioner 2457 01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,599 higen yeah I'd go to 2458 01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:06,030 January commissioner 2459 01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,239 Hoover you want to push through December 2460 01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:10,119 into December 9th I want to hear it from 2461 01:54:10,119 --> 01:54:11,880 your lips is that what you 2462 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,920 want works for me I'm not gonna be here 2463 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,760 December 3D my God here we go let's 2464 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,880 postpone until January please works for 2465 01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:20,320 me all 2466 01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:25,520 right all right thank you um do we have 2467 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,760 to vote on to accept the agenda I think 2468 01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,560 we already did once but do we vote again 2469 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,199 to accept the agenda for December 3r oh 2470 01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:35,639 you haven't done December 3rd yet wait 2471 01:54:35,639 --> 01:54:38,400 what did we just do or did you I don't 2472 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,159 think you approved the agenda did you 2473 01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:42,239 December 3D no we didn't all okay no we 2474 01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:44,000 did you did the workshop on the 18th 2475 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,119 though right yeah right so is there a 2476 01:54:46,119 --> 01:54:48,280 motion to approve the agenda for 2477 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:49,760 December 2478 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,040 3D uh thank you is there a second second 2479 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,800 any further discussion all in favor 2480 01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:00,880 please say I I I motion carries uh four 2481 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,440 to one 2482 01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:07,000 absent and with that we come to a close 2483 01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,360 is there a motion to adjourn the 2484 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,320 meeting I moved thank you is there a 2485 01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,840 second seconded thank you further 2486 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,119 discussion I can't imagine all right all 2487 01:55:18,119 --> 01:55:26,760 in favor please say I motion car carries um 4 to one absent 2488 01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:31,360 and the meeting is adjourned at 2489 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,280 8:57 2490 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:37,079 p.m. thank you everyone