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We're going to
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Sorry, that was a little loud,
but we just had a full house.

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So we're going to get started.

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Call the meeting to order.

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I'll stop this president.

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All commissioners are present.

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We'll move on to proclamations.

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We are doing June
is Pride month.

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So who is in the
audience representing

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our Pride Month proclamation.

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Ys jagan.

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OK, Doctor.

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Hat Just try not to die
while I get up there.

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Sorry set a
minefield for myself.

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My apologies.

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No OK, well, good
morning commissioners.

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I just wanted to
say very briefly,

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thank you so much
for this proclamation

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representing Pride Month
here in the city of Emporia,

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where pride has
become very much.

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Celebrated and
welcomed and growing

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up here in this community,
I love being from Emporio.

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I'm proud to be from Emporio.

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I never thought I'd see anything
like that in my lifetime.

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And as a proud member
of the LGBTQ community.

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I'm very proud of the fact
that I don't even have

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to message the city anymore.

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I get a message at the end
of May every year asking,

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are you planning to submit
a pride proclamation.

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And that means a lot
to a lot of people.

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The fact that the city wants
to be recognized for that

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and wants to recognize it.

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Of course, we'll have plenty of
activities coming up on June 21,

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so I want to make sure
everybody comes out

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and enjoys those activities.

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And just wanted to
say very quickly,

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I know that sometimes these
topics can be divisive

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and can cause a lot of debate
and in some cases, anger.

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But that's not what
pride is about.

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Pride is about everyone.

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Pride is for everyone.

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And we would ask anybody that
maybe has an experience that

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or has their weariness about
it, come and experience it

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with an open mind and enjoy
the peace and the love

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that comes with it.

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So thank you again
to the city for this,

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and for constantly
recognizing those of us

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at the LGBTQ
community who, again,

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never thought that we would
live to see a moment like this.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Whereas the city of Emporia
is a welcoming community

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and exceptional place to live,
work, play, and raise a family.

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And whereas Emporia has a
diverse lesbian, gay, bisexual,

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transgender, and
questioning LGBTQ community

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and is committed to supporting
visibility, dignity, and equity

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of all its residents.

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And whereas many of the
residents and business owners.

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Excuse me.

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I put in a cough drops cough
within the city of Emporia who

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contribute to the
enrichment of our city

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are a part of the
LGBTQ community.

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And whereas Emporia
is strengthened

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by the diversity of ethnic,
cultural, racial, gender and

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sexual identities
of its residents

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and business community
members, all of which

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contribute to the
city's character,

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talent, economy and leadership.

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And whereas critical
steps have been made

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towards full LGBTQ equity
and equality, members

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of our national, state,
and local communities still

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face discrimination,
exclusion and prejudice simply

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for being who they are
and for who they love.

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And whereas discrimination
against people

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from the LGBTQ community
from around the world

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makes it imperative
for cities like Emporia

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to stand up and show our
support for LGBTQ residents.

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And whereas we respect
and celebrate the richness

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and variety of cultures, values,
traditions and uniqueness

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as they contribute to the
tapestry of our community.

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And whereas each of us could and
should promote inclusiveness,

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celebrate diversity, support
all fellow community members,

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prevent the spread
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and reject hate and
bias in all forms,

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which will make for a stronger
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And whereas June shows,
International Pride month

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commemorates the 1969 protests
and demonstrations in response

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to raids at the Stonewall Inn
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And whereas June has become
a symbolic month in which

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the LGBTQ community and
allies come together in

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various celebrations of pride.

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Now, therefore, be resolved that
Becky Smith, Mayor, do hereby

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proclaim the month of
June as LGBTQ Pride Month

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and encourage all
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promote, support and help build
a culture of inclusiveness

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and acceptance.

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Oxygen I'm taking you.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, you can stand
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I mean, give everybody a minute.

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Sure I. Don't want
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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you.

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Good job.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This is for you.

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All right.

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So, proclamation designating
the month of June as zoo month.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Sure all right.

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Mayor, commissioners and
members of the community,

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on behalf of all
zoo staff, we'd like

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to thank you and
the city of Emporia

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for their continued recognition
and support through this zoo

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month proclamation.

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The success of the
David Traylor zoo

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rests on the dedication of
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the local businesses.

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For 92 years, the city
of Emporia, its residents

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and its businesses community
have shown an immense commitment

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to providing an oasis where
visitors can step away

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from the hustle and
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if only for an hour, and become
immersed in nature and Wildlife.

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That support has allowed us to
thrive and accomplish so much.

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It has helped us maintain our
aza accreditation for 36 years

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created a more welcoming
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and develop a new
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and continue planning for
the future advancements that

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will benefit our community
and visitors for generations

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to come.

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We are proud to serve as an
anchor in the Emporia community.

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Beyond providing opportunities
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and conservation.

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The zoo offers a place where
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connect with nature,
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together in a peaceful and
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As we celebrate zoo
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grateful for the
partnership and support

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that make our work possible.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your commitment
to the David Traylor zoo,

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and for recognizing
the important role zoos

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play in education,
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and community engagement.

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Thank you.

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Do you have any exciting
activities for the month.

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I mean, you guys are always
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Note we have stolen show coming
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on June 12 from the stroll
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and the movie will begin
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Education Center, free for all.

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We've got free popcorn
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so we're looking forward to
having a lot of fun and crafts

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provided by our
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And then we also
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on June 28 from 1 to three.

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That all are welcome for
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meet and greet with our
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to see how we do what we do.

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And an update on construction.

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Construction with
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where putting perching in now
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So you will be seeing a grand
opening date posted soon.

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But summer nights, our summer
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We're adding Saturdays, so our
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Wednesday and Saturday
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o'clock o'clock o'clock PM so
come on down and join us and we

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have the kazoo wild adventure
passport as well that you can

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get and visit all
seven AZA accredited

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zoos in Kansas and enjoy what
the whole state has to offer.

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If you join, you get discounts.

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If you join a heck of a deal.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I agree.

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All right.

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OK we're at zoological parks
and aquariums of North America.

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Serve the needs of both
humans and Wildlife.

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We're bringing them
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meet in a unique setting.

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And whereas they help build
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concern and a sense
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for wildlife and
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And they provide a vital link
to global conservation efforts.

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Their commitment to education
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the appreciation of
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school children each year.

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And whereas they actively
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to better care for and
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of the Earth.

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And they provide important
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and educational
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million people each year.

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Therefore, be it known that our
esteemed mayor, Becky Smith,

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does hereby designate the
month of June as zoo month

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and urge all citizens to
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to experience firsthand
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in our environment
offered by the zoo.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Christine is Christine here.

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Come on.

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Come on.

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OK come on.

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Get all your.

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Board members as well, please.

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It's a.

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Short stay here.

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Yes that's a good thing.

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Thanks, all.

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Thanks, guys.

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Thank you.

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Yeah you.

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Sure you want me to just
pass that forward to you.

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Well, is there anybody
else who hasn't signed up.

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Who wants to speak with me.

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Roll into public comment.

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We need to sign a sheet
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Officially, or once or twice.

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The public is invited to
make comments at this time.

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Please limit comments
to two minutes each.

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Please state your
name and address

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prior to making comments.

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Let me start on the top or
the bottom or you don't care.

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Here at the top.

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All right.

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Mickey Edwards is up.

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Where is she.

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Oh, it's.

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Oh, it's Mickey outside.

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Can you speak up,
Mickey Edwards.

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Thank you.

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OK Mary Halloran.

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These people signed up today.

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I think they're
in the other room.

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So somebody else.

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Mickey is outside
on top of page 1.

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That's how you sign an order.

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But that's fine.

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We're going to hear them all.

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So sure.

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When she comes in, we'll give
her a minute, but we'll go to.

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We'll go the other one.

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All right.

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JPG oh, sorry I missed.

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Here is Jay.

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Becky thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And I live at 1319
Lawrence Street.

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So I'm here today to call
for an immediate moratorium

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on the proposed data center and
to demand a process that puts

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the people first, as we see
in a lot of other communities

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like El Dorado, there's been
behind the scenes dealing

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non-disclosure agreements
that have been signed,

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and this does not represent what
our community needs or wants.

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That's why so many residents
are signing the fair Emporia,

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because they want to move to a
city commission form of our city

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council form of government, and
not continue with a commission

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that doesn't represent us.

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When we look at data
centers, we're seeing

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the destruction of water.

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It evaporates water.

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It doesn't return
back to the rivers.

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It's going to impact
our environment.

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And newsflash, we're
running out of water.

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And Kansas isn't the governor
talking about it all the time.

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So this is just not a good idea.

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It lowers property values.

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It has.

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It can be heard
up to a mile away.

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The buzzing sounds.

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It impacts agriculture
not just on a water level,

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but also it stops cows from
being able to produce milk

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or wanting to have children.

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So I think that speaks to a lot
of our rural people as well.

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It has a massive strain on
our local electrical grid,

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and it results in raising
our utility rates.

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And if we've seen anything from
Everjoy over the past few years,

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they're ready to
raise those rates up.

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They've already done it
twice in the past six years.

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So we already know what this
is going to look like for us

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as a community.

302
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And like we keep
talking about jobs

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like this is going to do
something for our community,

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but we know from other
communities that it's just short

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lived jobs.

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For building the data center.

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And then after that,
there's no jobs.

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It's like a handful of
people working there,

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and a lot of those people
probably aren't even

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going to be from our community.

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So we need to do
better, and I expect

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better from our
government here locally.

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We should be the first people to
speak with, not the last, right.

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You guys have already.

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You guys have already planned
all of these different.

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Today you're going
to annex the land,

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tomorrow you're going to
take the water that we didn't

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give you consent to take.

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And then after
that, you're going

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to listen to us for a
minute, and then you're

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going to still push it through.

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Unacceptable Yeah thank you.

323
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Thank you.

324
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Thank you.

325
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Thank you.

326
00:19:40,170 --> 00:19:41,230
My son's next.

327
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So he's got a few words
for you guys as well.

328
00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:46,610
We got to say buddy.

329
00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:49,390
Sorry I will say he's
going to be the cutest.

330
00:19:49,390 --> 00:19:54,690
We see today that
green is data center.

331
00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:57,090
So say it louder, buddy.

332
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Oh, don't do it.

333
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Throw the Daddy.

334
00:20:00,650 --> 00:20:05,430
He wants to save our rivers.

335
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:08,290
He was telling me earlier, and
he wants to protect the animals,

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so.

337
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Please yeah.

338
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Think of our children
for their future.

339
00:20:12,490 --> 00:20:14,770
Thank you so much.

340
00:20:14,770 --> 00:20:16,970
So is that raya and ragan?

341
00:20:16,970 --> 00:20:18,370
Is that who that was.

342
00:20:18,370 --> 00:20:19,070
That was my son.

343
00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:20,250
No my daughter is.

344
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Oh OK.

345
00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:25,120
She'll so here it is.

346
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,780
So what I have on the
list is read index.

347
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Yeah that's right.

348
00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:29,940
OK we're good.

349
00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:31,320
OK thank you though.

350
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We're moving on to Kathy Lamb.

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My name is Kathy Lamb.

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I live at 1706 East
10th Avenue in Kansas.

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And I'm here to oppose the
data center and the annexation

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of the tracts of land.

356
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I know that once it's
annexed, if it is annexed,

357
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it will be the site
of a data center

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that will cause
noise 24 hours a day.

359
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,280
We already pay an
exorbitant amount

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of money for property taxes.

361
00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:09,120
Everyone in this room
is aware of that.

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On top of the high taxes, our
electric Bills will go up.

363
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,520
Our water Bills will go up.

364
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,480
There's not going to
be enough money left

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to spend in any small business.

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On top of that.

367
00:21:23,290 --> 00:21:26,790
Why is it being built so
close to the communities.

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It's so close to the houses.

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It's a constant
noise, and I don't

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know any of you have gone
and actually observed a data

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center and the noise
that it makes, it's loud

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and I don't understand why
you would contemplate getting

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rid of one of the world's
purest, best tasting water

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and sacrifice it to
a Monster Machine.

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It is the best water.

376
00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:04,090
And we will the
well will run dry.

377
00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:05,630
We have droughts.

378
00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:09,390
What are you going to do for us
when we don't have the water.

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00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:10,930
Our people need water.

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Our farmers need water.

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We put.

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We take showers.

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00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:16,930
We cook with it.

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We drink with it.

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We need it.

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And to use it on that
monster contraption

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that you want to call
something that we all know.

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It's a data center.

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It's wrong.

390
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I think it's very wrong.

391
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And I think you're selling
out the people that put you

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in office when you consider it.

393
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Thank you.

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Thank you.

395
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I'm going to ask everybody
to be respectful.

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If you talk while
they're trying to talk,

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00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,260
sometimes we cannot hear them.

399
00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:53,900
So keep your.

400
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And you're welcome to do
the yeses and the clapping

401
00:22:55,660 --> 00:22:56,160
in between.

402
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,980
I'm just saying, while
they talk, please use

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00:22:57,980 --> 00:23:02,980
their time to Edgar Esparza.

404
00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:06,100
Yes go ahead.

405
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,680
Hello my name is Edgar, and
I'm a software developer,

406
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and I live at 11:06 Neosho.

407
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,780
And I'm here to speak against
the proposed data center.

408
00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:16,560
I work with data centers
for my professional career,

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00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,720
so I know how they operate.

410
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,540
I'm not here to talk based
on fear or misinformation.

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00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:24,540
My main concern is water, and
residents use 6 to eight million

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00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:26,740
gallons of water every day.

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00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:30,580
And in 2023, when we
were using 12 million

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gallons of water per
day, the infrastructure

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00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:33,980
was pushed to its limit.

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00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:37,740
In 2024, the infrastructure
failed, and in 2026

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00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:40,300
it produced a sinkhole.

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00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:44,340
Adding a data center to that
will only make things worse.

419
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,520
I'm also concerned about the
strain on the power grid,

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00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,260
the environmental impact on the
proposed on site natural gas

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00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:52,060
generation, air and noise
pollution, and the fact

422
00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:54,400
that this facility will be
an eyesore from the highway.

423
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Transparency is
also a major issue.

424
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,340
Data centers are being fast
tracked nationwide, often

425
00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:01,580
despite public opposition.

426
00:24:01,580 --> 00:24:05,960
This site alone is 1,000 acres,
that is 505 football fields.

427
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,540
That's the size of a small town.

428
00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:10,800
I can tell you, as someone
who works in the industry,

429
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,850
we don't need something that
size unless it's for something

430
00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:16,210
that your intelligence.

431
00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:18,210
I read the proposed
Amendment carefully,

432
00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:21,490
and I am troubled by how often
the phrase the city may require

433
00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:22,530
was used.

434
00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:25,970
May gives permission, but
doesn't require action.

435
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:27,090
It sounds like
the city will have

436
00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:29,830
the power to enforce things,
but will likely choose not to.

437
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:31,970
Hiding behind this
deliberate language.

438
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:35,410
We don't want permission for
the city to act on our benefit.

439
00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:38,050
We want to require
the city to make sure

440
00:24:38,050 --> 00:24:40,890
that they act on our benefit.

441
00:24:40,890 --> 00:24:44,090
You must use words
like shall require

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00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:45,750
or the developer must provide.

443
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:48,730
Anything less is just a
suggestion and not a safeguard.

444
00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:50,810
Also, there are terms in
there like surveilling

445
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:52,110
and quantum computing.

446
00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:53,430
Why are those terms in there.

447
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:56,850
Are we just blanket trying to
rezone something just to make

448
00:24:56,850 --> 00:24:57,910
sure that it pushes through.

449
00:24:57,910 --> 00:25:01,930
And then later on we can't
put any of the safeguards up.

450
00:25:01,930 --> 00:25:05,590
So these are all red flags
and speculative zoning to me.

451
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:08,430
So I urge you to vote yes.

452
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453
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240
David young.

454
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,860
I don't have orientation.

455
00:25:20,860 --> 00:25:21,700
I have questions.

456
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,280
Are you willing to answer those.

457
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Well, no, we don't
actually engage

458
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280
in our public speaking time.

459
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320
There is a plan, and there
is a planning and zoning

460
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,460
meeting in on the 23rd.

461
00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:37,240
And that is the zoning
is actually where

462
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,740
this will be really taken up.

463
00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:42,120
So I'll wait till
then MS McGuire.

464
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,280
Thank you.

465
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,900
I was told I could
hand these out.

466
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:47,800
And we can pass those
around to the group.

467
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,460
Good morning.

468
00:25:48,460 --> 00:25:49,540
My name is Mike McGuire.

469
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I live at 1702 Cal
Loma, by the way.

470
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,780
Loud and proud.

471
00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:55,560
Even going straight.

472
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,380
Oh right on.

473
00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:58,040
Yeah here we go.

474
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,460
Thank you for facilitating
the public meeting.

475
00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:03,100
It is a sign of your
willingness to be transparent.

476
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:06,800
Government I do not have the
expertise to make an informed

477
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,510
decision on whether the Kansa
park data center is the best

478
00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:14,070
option for Emporia, so I
will offer two points close

479
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:15,510
and then leave.

480
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:19,210
Number one, I wish that Emporia
were not in this moment.

481
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:22,030
That feels so desperate.

482
00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:25,670
Number 2, I am handing
you and those gathered

483
00:26:25,670 --> 00:26:29,690
j here a two sided document.

484
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:32,230
It is meant to be studied.

485
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:34,810
On one side is a
list that states.

486
00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:38,930
Quote before any data
center project is approved,

487
00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:40,910
the community and
the local leaders

488
00:26:40,910 --> 00:26:46,550
should require several key
protections to ensure residents

489
00:26:46,550 --> 00:26:50,550
receive real benefits and
are not left subsidizing

490
00:26:50,550 --> 00:26:52,630
the project end quote.

491
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:56,870
That information came from
Natalie Martin, a former Emporia

492
00:26:56,870 --> 00:27:01,830
resident ESU graduate, science
teacher and now project manager

493
00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:03,910
at Black Veatch.

494
00:27:03,910 --> 00:27:05,970
On the other side is a letter.

495
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:08,770
The letter is an idea
about a theme park.

496
00:27:08,770 --> 00:27:12,910
The letter was written by me
and addressed to Taylor Swift.

497
00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:15,070
Some may write it
off as a dream.

498
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:16,030
That's OK.

499
00:27:16,030 --> 00:27:17,990
I like to dream big.

500
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:22,110
In closing, creating 20 to
50 full time data center jobs

501
00:27:22,110 --> 00:27:23,790
might be the way to go.

502
00:27:23,790 --> 00:27:26,870
Building the Taylor Swift
heart of America theater

503
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:29,470
and Swiftie family
theme park that

504
00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:32,190
could create hundreds
if not thousands of jobs

505
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:33,730
might be a better way to go.

506
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:36,750
And for comparison,
Dollywood in Tennessee

507
00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:39,330
employs 4,000 people annually.

508
00:27:39,330 --> 00:27:39,970
Thank you.

509
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:47,230


510
00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:50,370
Judith oh, man.

511
00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:51,370
I had 12 seconds to.

512
00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:55,230


513
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:56,110
Get gas.

514
00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:59,030
I didn't want to stop.

515
00:27:59,030 --> 00:28:00,470
Thank you.

516
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:03,070
I'm at 9:21 Lakeview.

517
00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:04,750
I don't know if
any of y'all know

518
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,180
how many threatened
or endangered

519
00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:08,620
species we have in this area.

520
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:09,640
Rhetorical question.

521
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,520
I don't either, but I know
the four in my discipline,

522
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,580
which is Freshwater biology.

523
00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:17,100
And of those four,
there are two that

524
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:21,620
are named after one of the
rivers that surrounds our city.

525
00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:25,140
And I think that's
important to know

526
00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:27,980
because that means
those creatures

527
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:29,480
are nowhere else in the world.

528
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,540
They are endemic to that river.

529
00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:38,940
And if we start building data
centers that draw tons of water

530
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:42,460
and start killing off
our endemic species,

531
00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:45,540
we're going to be causing
way more problems than just

532
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:46,980
for humans.

533
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:50,540
We need to also look at the
economical or ecological impacts

534
00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:51,940
of these things.

535
00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:53,980
So I would like to
call for a moratorium

536
00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:57,220
of no less than five years.

537
00:28:57,220 --> 00:29:01,420
Data centers are one of the most
unifying issues in our country

538
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:06,490
right now 7 out of 10
Americans do not want data

539
00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:08,330
centers built in their towns.

540
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:12,530
It's more unifying than when
prohibition got overturned.

541
00:29:12,530 --> 00:29:17,730
So nothing has unified us more
than beer and data centers.

542
00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:22,210
So I would just like you guys to
consider the fact that we might

543
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:26,010
not know everything about these
data centers, which is why

544
00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:28,610
we're asking for
more time to know

545
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:31,850
what they will do to our areas.

546
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:34,370
We need.

547
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:36,690
Excuse me.

548
00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:39,090
I should have written down my.

549
00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:39,870
You're doing great.

550
00:29:39,870 --> 00:29:41,330
You're doing great.

551
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:43,250
We know.

552
00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:45,010
Yeah so we need
more time in order

553
00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:47,450
to realize what is going on.

554
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:50,330
So we're not saying that
we're against progress here

555
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:51,190
in this town.

556
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:54,570
We're just against this
progress right now.

557
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:57,890
Maybe later when we know
what it actually does.

558
00:29:57,890 --> 00:30:00,170
But right now, we
need industries

559
00:30:00,170 --> 00:30:03,720
that our town has historically.

560
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520
For clarification,
what's the animal that's

561
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,860
named after one of our Rivers.

562
00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:09,860
We have the Neosho madtom
and the Neosho mucket.

563
00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:14,160
Are they fish or ones
actually like amphibian

564
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680
And the other one is a mussel.

565
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Thank you.

566
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,300
Thank you.

567
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:22,600


568
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,140
How do I sign up to speak.

569
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:26,940
Oh, you can come on up.

570
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:30,360


571
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
We'll pass it over in
case there's anybody else.

572
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,260
All right.

573
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:33,980
We agree.

574
00:30:33,980 --> 00:30:39,040


575
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Hello good morning.

576
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,600
OK am I loud enough for
everybody back here.

577
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,680
I feel like I'm yelling at
you guys, but I don't want to.

578
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,740
My name is Leah Green.

579
00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:50,800
I live at 2215 North highway 99.

580
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,000
What I wanted to
talk about today

581
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,127
is the money part
related to data centers,

582
00:30:55,127 --> 00:30:56,360
because I know
everyone here is going

583
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,780
to be emotional in front of me.

584
00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:02,640
I have the Kansas sales
tax exemption, SB 98, which

585
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,240
Kansas has already passed.

586
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760
For those that don't
Kansas has already

587
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,360
given data centers a 100% state
and local sales tax exemption.

588
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,940
So that means data centers don't
have to pay taxes on the land.

589
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:18,140
They don't have to pay
taxes on any equipment,

590
00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:21,860
on any construction costs,
or on any labor for 20 years.

591
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:24,080
And Kansas has
given that to them.

592
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,560
What I would like to
ask the city today

593
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,360
is that since we're
already losing out

594
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,800
on 20 years of local sales tax,
if we were to get an AI center,

595
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080
I think it's fair to
ask that we don't offer

596
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400
them any more tax incentives.

597
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,440
I think 20 years of no
sales tax is amazing.

598
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680
I think we would all
be happy to get that.

599
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,720
So I would like to ask
them if a data center were

600
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,520
approved, would you
commit to having

601
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,040
them pay their fair share.

602
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,200
And would you refuse to offer
them any local tax incentives.

603
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,120
So, Kirk, do you
think that you would

604
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,190
want to offer them
any tax incentives

605
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:00,510
we're not allowed to combat.

606
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:02,550
Monica, would you be back.

607
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:04,670
Are you willing to answer.

608
00:32:04,670 --> 00:32:07,830
OK Tammy, would you be
willing to stand up for that.

609
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:09,130
I can't do that.

610
00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:10,830
Aaron wow.

611
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:12,390
Happy to meet with
you after this.

612
00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:13,770
OK I'd love to meet
with you, Aaron.

613
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:15,350
I've appreciated that.

614
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:18,370
The last thing I want to say is
the only way to grow is West.

615
00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:20,030
We've all heard that right.

616
00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:25,190
But what happens if we use 1,000
acres of our land, developmental

617
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:27,150
land and it goes belly up.

618
00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:29,190
Where is this town going
to grow if we've spent

619
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:30,930
1,000 acres on that.

620
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:33,810
To put that into perspective,
hills has 81 acres.

621
00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:35,350
Simmons has 81.

622
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:36,650
Hostess has 36.

623
00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:37,930
Tyson had 46.

624
00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:39,670
We're talking about 1,000.

625
00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:43,030
Where will Emporia grow when
we've put a 1,000 acre Boulder

626
00:32:43,030 --> 00:32:44,710
in the middle of her path.

627
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:45,250
Thank you.

628
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:59,420


629
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:00,640
Good afternoon, everyone.

630
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,740
My name is Anna.

631
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:05,980
I live at 1674 road 235.

632
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:07,600
Am I speaking loud enough.

633
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,060
Yes OK.

634
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:11,220
There are entirely
too many unknowns

635
00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:15,380
for us to be inviting a data
center into our community.

636
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:17,720
Kansas may not be
the show-me state,

637
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,420
but we're right next door.

638
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:22,700
So when it comes to data
centers, we say, show me.

639
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,240
Show me.

640
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,220
There will be no
noise pollution.

641
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:28,620
Show me there will be no
extreme water consumption.

642
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:32,580
Show me a promise that
utility Bills won't increase.

643
00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:36,300
Show me that there are local
jobs that will last five years

644
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,100
after construction is complete.

645
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,340
Show me that the
benefits of a data center

646
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:45,860
outweigh the negatives
that we are learning

647
00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:48,420
more and more about every day.

648
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:52,800
Show me all of that somewhere
that is not in our backyard.

649
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,170


650
00:33:56,170 --> 00:34:00,930
Then show me the names of the
significant private investor

651
00:34:00,930 --> 00:34:03,730
and a company name.

652
00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:07,290
Show me a clear exit
agreement so our community

653
00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:12,610
cannot be left high and dry
in a few years after that.

654
00:34:12,610 --> 00:34:15,530
Maybe then we can
begin to consider

655
00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:18,210
this so-called opportunity.

656
00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:22,929
Until then, we don't want any
land in this city or the County

657
00:34:22,929 --> 00:34:25,409
zoned for this use.

658
00:34:25,409 --> 00:34:30,610
And today we are calling for
a moratorium of at least eight

659
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,610
months, which is the reported
time that you guys have

660
00:34:33,610 --> 00:34:36,730
had these talks in progress.

661
00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:41,770
At the end of the Moratorium, we
want a public vote on whether we

662
00:34:41,770 --> 00:34:44,250
allow data centers.

663
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:46,650
And am I correct
in my understanding

664
00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:51,969
that this could be protested
with a petition signed by 20%

665
00:34:51,969 --> 00:34:54,420
of registered voter population.

666
00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:58,460
Christina depends on
what you're protesting,

667
00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:01,240
I think is a zoning change.

668
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,500
Can you protest a zoning change.

669
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,300
I'd be happy to meet with you
and talk to you about that.

670
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:07,760
OK yes.

671
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,120
And I would want to
know when this petition

672
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,600
should be completed in order to
stop the zoning change as well.

673
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,140
If I can get all
that information.

674
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:18,960
Thank you.

675
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,620
Thank you.

676
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:25,000


677
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,560
I'm going to start
calling you names

678
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,360
so that we can have the other
person in the wings just

679
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,820
to keep going here quickly.

680
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:37,900
So Leslie Smith and George
typekit George is on deck.

681
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:38,980
George is on deck.

682
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,300
I didn't say, is he
outside or is he here.

683
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:43,540
He's OK, he's OK.

684
00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:44,240
He's out here.

685
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,760
OK.

686
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,260
Hi.

687
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:49,600
My name is Leslie Smith,
9:15 Neosho street.

688
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,780
I will give all my
extra time to George,

689
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:53,660
because I'm just going to say
something short and sweet.

690
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:56,840
One, I support everything that
everybody said prior to me.

691
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,620
I am opposed to the data center.

692
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:01,300
While the city needs to find
ways to grow economically,

693
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,600
this is not the way,
especially with the lack

694
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,520
of transparency exhibited.

695
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,000
I yield my time.

696
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,340
All right, George.

697
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:12,320


698
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,320
I'm not sure what to do with
extra time, but good morning.

699
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,380
My name is George hupka.

700
00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:19,400
I live at 1919 Irving way,
and I moved to Emporia

701
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,080
about three years ago.

702
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520
I grew up in a much larger city.

703
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,120
During my time here, I've
absolutely fallen in love

704
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,760
with the city, the community.

705
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,740
I appreciate the spirit of
Emporia, the energy of downtown,

706
00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:35,620
the festivals, the
local businesses,

707
00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:36,880
and most importantly,
the people that

708
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520
make it such a special place.

709
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,700
Like many small
towns across America,

710
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:46,040
obviously there's
challenges and attracting

711
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,550
and retaining good paying jobs.

712
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:52,830
Why that's why this new
opportunity obviously

713
00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:55,550
is going to spark so
much discussion, so much

714
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:59,190
emotion, energy and excitement.

715
00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:01,230
I understand those feelings.

716
00:37:01,230 --> 00:37:03,030
Change can be difficult,
and it's important

717
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:05,790
that we ask questions
and carefully

718
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:11,230
consider the impact of this
change of any major change.

719
00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:13,150
I encourage us all
to take the time

720
00:37:13,150 --> 00:37:17,070
to fully understand
what's being proposed

721
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:19,150
and decide where we stand.

722
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:21,390
Things can be done right.

723
00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:25,350
Things can be done wrong.

724
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:28,510
It could be an incredible
opportunity for the city.

725
00:37:28,510 --> 00:37:31,310
It could be an opportunity
to create jobs.

726
00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:33,790
It could strengthen our economy.

727
00:37:33,790 --> 00:37:36,110
It could ensure the
future generations

728
00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:41,830
can build their lives right
here in Emporia if done right.

729
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:46,550
We need to take the time to
make sure it's done right.

730
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:49,980
Understand what
is being proposed.

731
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:54,000
Thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you.

732
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,140
Two more minutes.

733
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:57,980
Do you have anything.

734
00:37:57,980 --> 00:37:58,560
It's up to you.

735
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,140
If you really want them,
you can keep going.

736
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:06,640
I'd just like to say we're all
using data centers every day.

737
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,560
No, that's not true.

738
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,740
Just remember that.

739
00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:15,020
No, you're not going to get
us on board with that we don't

740
00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:19,100
want to operate without that.

741
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,700
I'm not doing that.

742
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:23,440
We are moving on to Chelsea.

743
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800
Chris and Ashley Dorris on deck.

744
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,340


745
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:34,480
Chelsea Chelsea and Ashley.

746
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Jordan hi.

747
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,220
I'm Chelsea.

748
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:41,340
I have lived here
for six years now,

749
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:44,240
and I've absolutely fallen
in love with this place.

750
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,490
Kansas it's beautiful.

751
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,530
I go out and I photograph
it every single day.

752
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:51,650
Bringing a data center
here would not be any good.

753
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:53,850
It's more than the phone.

754
00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:54,630
It's way more.

755
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:55,430
It's surveillance.

756
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:56,570
It's everything.

757
00:38:56,570 --> 00:39:00,130
And to just look at it
from a money perspective

758
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:02,070
and all that is disgusting.

759
00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:03,810
It's absolutely disgusting.

760
00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:05,370
We need more time.

761
00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:06,750
We need more things brought.

762
00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:09,970
But in my opinion, it doesn't
need to be here at all.

763
00:39:09,970 --> 00:39:11,670
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

764
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:21,410


765
00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:22,490
She's up.

766
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:25,250
Melissa I'm Ashley door.

767
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:26,910
I live at 7-eleven Constitution.

768
00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:28,850
I've lived here most of my life.

769
00:39:28,850 --> 00:39:31,210
I just want to say we
don't need a data center.

770
00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:32,810
Noise pollution.

771
00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:36,050
It's going to cause migraines,
anxiety, which most of this town

772
00:39:36,050 --> 00:39:38,210
already has.

773
00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:39,650
It's going to.

774
00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:41,110
It's going to take
away all of our water.

775
00:39:41,110 --> 00:39:44,490
What I want to know is when
they deplete all of our water.

776
00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:45,590
They're going to leave.

777
00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:48,010
And what's that going
to leave us with.

778
00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:49,350
It's not good.

779
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:50,150
We don't need one.

780
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:50,810
Thank you.

781
00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:51,390
Thank you.

782
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:56,090


783
00:39:56,090 --> 00:40:01,190
Moses is up with Clara on deck.

784
00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:07,730


785
00:40:07,730 --> 00:40:09,390
Hi, my name is Melissa stapley.

786
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:12,770
I live at 1542 road 160.

787
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:13,970
Good morning.

788
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:16,610
I am here to formally request
that this commission placed

789
00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:20,890
a moratorium to the process
digital infrastructure overlay

790
00:40:20,890 --> 00:40:23,770
district zoning, and that any
decision of this magnitude

791
00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:26,530
be placed before the
public for a vote.

792
00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:29,410
The project was reportedly under
discussion for eight months

793
00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:32,810
before Emporia residents
heard a single word about it.

794
00:40:32,810 --> 00:40:36,170
Now we are being asked to accept
a zoning framework in 43 days

795
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:39,370
for a gigawatt scale,
1,000 acre facility

796
00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:42,960
whose operating company has not
even been named name publicly.

797
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560
That is not
community engagement.

798
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,800
Our community depends on
the Neosho river and local

799
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,800
groundwater for drinking water.

800
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,120
We have already
experienced drought

801
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,160
conditions severe enough to
require conservation measures.

802
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,280
We already have water intensive
industries operating here.

803
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,760
And now we're being
asked to approve

804
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,680
without independent study,
without binding water use caps,

805
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,480
without knowing who the
tenant is, a facility

806
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,880
that a gigawatt scale could
consume millions of gallons

807
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,240
of water every single day.

808
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:16,280
Emporia residents are
not opposed to growth.

809
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,320
We are opposed to
being bypassed.

810
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200
Decisions that will shape this
community for the next 50 years.

811
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Our water, our infrastructure,
our tax base and our children's

812
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,720
schools deserve more than
43 days and a planning

813
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,360
commission hearing.

814
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,900
We're asking for three things.

815
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:34,600
I am asking for three
things a minimum of 100.

816
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Minimum 120 day
moratorium to allow

817
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,150
independent assessment of
water power and fiscal impacts.

818
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:44,710
Second, full public
disclosure of the end

819
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:47,270
user company before any vote.

820
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:49,870
Third, that the commission
placed the question of approval

821
00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:51,950
before Memorial
residents directly.

822
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:53,710
Let us vote.

823
00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:56,590
This community showed up
today because we love Emporia,

824
00:41:56,590 --> 00:41:59,310
and we expect to be treated
as partners in the future,

825
00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:00,630
not as an afterthought.

826
00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:01,330
Thank you.

827
00:42:01,330 --> 00:42:10,430


828
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:12,370
So after Clara will be gone.

829
00:42:12,370 --> 00:42:15,430
Luke yes.

830
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:18,930
Hi I'm Clara horn, 1122 West.

831
00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:20,970
And I love Emporia.

832
00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:24,110
I moved here in 2010 from a town
that I would have considered

833
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:26,070
not really growing
and not really full

834
00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:28,290
of vibrancy to a town that is.

835
00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:31,830
I love Emporia, and I
said, no one in Emporia

836
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:33,430
is against progress.

837
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:36,870
But not all progress is good.

838
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:39,480
The vast majority of
Syrians don't want this.

839
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,820
As you guys can see from
this experience today and all

840
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:46,740
the social media comments and
even the cooling systems that

841
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:48,900
use less water for these days.

842
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:50,600
There's different ones,
like a closed loop system,

843
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,100
I believe is what we
were told this one

844
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,300
will have if potentially.

845
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:55,780
Oh sorry.

846
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:58,320
Even those use an
inordinate amount of energy,

847
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,120
so they may use less water,
but they use a ton of energy.

848
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,220
And then Everjoy will
have to use more water.

849
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:05,000
So they end up using a
lot of water and energy.

850
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,380
Regardless we've
already seen that we

851
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:11,900
have these blackouts
periodically kind out

852
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:12,400
of nowhere.

853
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
They don't last that long, but
they pop up during unbound.

854
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,820
I was in the coffee shop
and it just happened.

855
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:20,060
Came back on a little bit.

856
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:20,800
No Biggie.

857
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,780
We kept going.

858
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:23,540
But that's just unbound.

859
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:24,920
When unbound comes through.

860
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,280
Yeah, there's a lot
of energy usage.

861
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,120
There's things plugged
in, stuff going,

862
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,740
and if energy can't handle
that, how can they handle this.

863
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:38,760
Yeah, I thought about that to
the water system that we have.

864
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,140
I mean, the plumbing
in this town

865
00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:41,720
is constantly falling apart.

866
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:48,020
And as we saw I believe it was
in the kvoa coverage of this,

867
00:43:48,020 --> 00:43:52,460
that there's a variety of
possible scenarios for fixing

868
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:56,540
up our plumbing
system refurbishment

869
00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:57,740
to completely rehauling it.

870
00:43:57,740 --> 00:43:58,940
It's going to cost
us a lot of money

871
00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:02,380
to do that, which is
something we need to do.

872
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:03,813
So that's an addition to this.

873
00:44:03,813 --> 00:44:05,680
This is going to use a lot
of water and a lot of energy.

874
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,280
And we're already
struggling in those areas.

875
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,500
Sinkholes, water main
breakage boil advisories.

876
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,060
This is just an
additional issue.

877
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:14,800
Lastly, as I have only
a couple more minutes,

878
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,980
the jobs it creates are going to
be very temporary and very few.

879
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:19,920
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

880
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,140


881
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:26,940
Thank you.

882
00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:28,540
Please give it to Gary.

883
00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:34,170
And after Don, is
Barb Ferris OK.

884
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:41,690
Let's get one.

885
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:43,010
Hi, I'm Jon Liu.

886
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:45,230
I'm a member of
the advisory board,

887
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:48,030
but I'm not speaking as a
representative of that board.

888
00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:50,490
I voted against the champion
landing funding request

889
00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:51,890
because I believe
that it does not meet

890
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:53,410
the requirements of the law.

891
00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:56,490
Champions landing wants to use
tax funds for the construction

892
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:58,130
of four tiny homes,
the development

893
00:44:58,130 --> 00:45:01,170
of four RV pads and
infrastructure improvements

894
00:45:01,170 --> 00:45:03,890
to statute and other
state documents

895
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:06,690
do not appear to
allow the use of funds

896
00:45:06,690 --> 00:45:10,170
for private property
and enhancements,

897
00:45:10,170 --> 00:45:13,190
even if the property is used for
events that attract tourists.

898
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:15,890
The statute indicates
that TGT funds

899
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:19,370
can be used for conventions and
tourism promotion, which means

900
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:22,010
activities to attract
visitors into the community

901
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:24,710
through marketing efforts,
including advertising,

902
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:27,730
and to support activities and
organizations that encourage

903
00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:29,810
increased lodging occupancy.

904
00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:32,780
There's an ag T91.

905
00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:35,960
Attorney general's opinion noted
that convention and tourism

906
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,880
promotion has broad
guidelines, and leaves it

907
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,040
up to the local governing body
to make particular expenditures.

908
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,880
This opinion indicated that
it was OK to use public funds

909
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,760
on public property.

910
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,800
Last year, the legislators
legislatures division

911
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560
of post-audit
reviewed expenditures

912
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,400
by Manhattan, Overland
park, and Wichita.

913
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,720
It came up with a long list
of allowable expenditures

914
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,540
that draw tourists travel
advertisement festivals,

915
00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:04,460
museums, website trade shows,
conventions, sports events,

916
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:06,420
print and digital
promotion materials,

917
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,840
and operating and
maintaining existing

918
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,500
tourism facilities such as
city owned convention center.

919
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:15,780
None of these are similar to
champion landing's application.

920
00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:18,560
I also believe it would be
unfair to other businesses

921
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,660
in town to provide lodging, to
give one company tax dollars,

922
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:24,840
to get a leg up on
those businesses that

923
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,640
are also supporting the
same type of activity.

924
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,340
Thank you.

925
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:33,990


926
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:35,250
After Barb will be.

927
00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:36,490
We're back to the cameras.

928
00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:39,710


929
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:41,810
Hi, my name is
Barbara lane Farris.

930
00:46:41,810 --> 00:46:45,150
I am at 1408 Guerra place.

931
00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:47,130
I've lived here since 2019.

932
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:49,230
I absolutely love Emporia.

933
00:46:49,230 --> 00:46:52,030
I am buying a house here.

934
00:46:52,030 --> 00:46:53,790
I'm a grad student at Ku.

935
00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:57,390
I'm fully invested
in this community,

936
00:46:57,390 --> 00:46:59,550
and what I want to say
today is that data centers

937
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:04,430
are not quiet, clean neighbors.

938
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:08,150
They are industrial behemoths
that demand staggering amounts

939
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:10,470
of electricity and water.

940
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:13,950
A single large data center
can consume millions

941
00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:16,150
of gallons of water
daily just to keep

942
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:18,630
its servers from overheating.

943
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:21,990
Where do you think
that water comes from.

944
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:24,290
Our local supplies.

945
00:47:24,290 --> 00:47:27,070


946
00:47:27,070 --> 00:47:28,830
In a state where
water conservation

947
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:30,170
is always on our minds.

948
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:33,350
We cannot afford to
drain our local supplies

949
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:36,710
for corporate server farms.

950
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:39,890
To make matters even worse,
to maintain a constant uptime,

951
00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:41,830
these facilities rely
on massive numbers

952
00:47:41,830 --> 00:47:44,510
of diesel backup
generators, which

953
00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:46,790
emit harmful particulate
matter and nitrogen

954
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:49,550
oxides directly into our air.

955
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:53,290
Almost 3,000 people in this
town already have asthma.

956
00:47:53,290 --> 00:47:56,270


957
00:47:56,270 --> 00:47:58,790
Second, let's consider
the economic impact

958
00:47:58,790 --> 00:48:00,550
on everyday residents.

959
00:48:00,550 --> 00:48:04,590
The massive energy draw required
to power artificial intelligence

960
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:10,190
and data servers puts an immense
strain on our local power grid.

961
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:12,270
Historically, these
massive power demands

962
00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:16,630
lead to higher utility rates for
residents and small businesses,

963
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:20,790
forcing the community to
foot the bill for costly Grid

964
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:23,430
Infrastructure upgrades.

965
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:27,300
Add to that the constant high
pitched mechanical humming

966
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,820
of industrial cooling fans
and our peaceful Flint

967
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:35,940
Hill nights are replaced
by Endless noise pollution.

968
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:39,580
Emporia is a proud community
with a rich history

969
00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:45,420
and a bright agricultural
educational identity.

970
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:46,840
Please listen to us.

971
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,440
Please don't do this.

972
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,040
Please give us a
reason to trust you.

973
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,140
I want to trust you so bad.

974
00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:54,400
Please please don't do this.

975
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:03,460


976
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:03,960
To me.

977
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Edward with Mary
Halloran on deck.

978
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,460


979
00:49:09,460 --> 00:49:11,060
For more.

980
00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:15,140
OK, but is Mickey not here.

981
00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:15,640
All right.

982
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,840
Mary Halloran is up with
Becky Morgan on deck.

983
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,700


984
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:23,500
Good night.

985
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:26,570
Some new names.

986
00:49:26,570 --> 00:49:27,570
Another day.

987
00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:31,170
She must be signed
up on the back side.

988
00:49:31,170 --> 00:49:34,390
OK, I'm guessing we
don't have these.

989
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:35,190
We added to it.

990
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:35,950
We added to it.

991
00:49:35,950 --> 00:49:39,350
Which ones did you add
after Becky tried that one.

992
00:49:39,350 --> 00:49:42,010
Mark Jurgens.

993
00:49:42,010 --> 00:49:44,870
OK, so then Molly
Williams is on deck.

994
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:48,130


995
00:49:48,130 --> 00:49:50,050
Thank you.

996
00:49:50,050 --> 00:49:56,990
Mark Jurgens, 28, 25, Rio
Vista, Emporia State retiree.

997
00:49:56,990 --> 00:50:00,010


998
00:50:00,010 --> 00:50:05,610
This town is so great.

999
00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:07,450
Look what Emporia does.

1000
00:50:07,450 --> 00:50:09,070
Look what Emporia has.

1001
00:50:09,070 --> 00:50:10,690
History is.

1002
00:50:10,690 --> 00:50:12,430
And the direction that it goes.

1003
00:50:12,430 --> 00:50:15,930
The events and Emporia State.

1004
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:17,430
The National track meets.

1005
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:18,830
We've had the Shrine Bowl.

1006
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:22,530
I mean, Emporia people
come to Emporia,

1007
00:50:22,530 --> 00:50:27,120
and that pays transient
tax money into this town.

1008
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,160
If you go to the
Chamber of Commerce,

1009
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,280
big flyer there
shows these events.

1010
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Welcome to Emporia.

1011
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,320
We don't want to put a
black eye on that front page

1012
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,200
of a data center.

1013
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
That's not going to bring
anybody to this town.

1014
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,080
No one's going to
come for that at all.

1015
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,600
It is not a selling point.

1016
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,600
It isn't.

1017
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,040
Eight months wasn't
that long ago.

1018
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,200
We voted for the
city commission.

1019
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,700
I listened to the interviews.

1020
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:01,000
I read about the interviews.

1021
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:07,320
I don't recall anybody bringing
that up for the need of Emporia.

1022
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,000
It wasn't there.

1023
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,760
We haven't had enough
time to process this.

1024
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,360
No pun intended,
that you guys have.

1025
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,700
But I do know this.

1026
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,280


1027
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Marion lake is where
Neosho river comes from.

1028
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,360
Last year it was
so dry campers were

1029
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,960
camping where the water wasn't.

1030
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,040
Comes down through
the Neosho river.

1031
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,860
I've seen it dry before.

1032
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:39,840
I know that because we've had
water restrictions in Emporia.

1033
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Lakes are back up.

1034
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,640
It's a pond.

1035
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,840
That's not the
direction we want to go.

1036
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,280
Let's keep the positive
going for Emporia.

1037
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,100
Someone's going to
profit from this.

1038
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:51,620
Yes it's not you guys.

1039
00:51:51,620 --> 00:51:54,680


1040
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,180
Thank you.

1041
00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:59,480


1042
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,120
All right, Molly is
up, and then Alex Babb.

1043
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,280
Hi, I'm Molly Williams,
this is Sophie.

1044
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,160
I live at 175 or 412
road 175, in Emporia.

1045
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,880
I would like to say
that I am pro-jobs,

1046
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,980
but I want jobs for my
children when they graduate.

1047
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:21,190
I want jobs for the future
as well as jobs for now.

1048
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:24,190
We need to know who
are these investors.

1049
00:52:24,190 --> 00:52:26,670
What are they planning to
use this data center for.

1050
00:52:26,670 --> 00:52:28,790
Are they training
large language models.

1051
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:30,850
Are they mining
for cryptocurrency.

1052
00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:33,070
And if they are, they should
have to get up here and explain

1053
00:52:33,070 --> 00:52:35,630
to all of us what that is.

1054
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:38,830
And if they can explain
it to our satisfaction,

1055
00:52:38,830 --> 00:52:41,390
then we need to know
why should we give

1056
00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:44,750
them tax breaks to do that.

1057
00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:47,390
Why are we giving tax
breaks to billionaires.

1058
00:52:47,390 --> 00:52:50,710
The Brookings
Institute in May of 26

1059
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:53,910
showed that incentives
are poorly targeted.

1060
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:56,770
Location decisions are
not driven by tax breaks,

1061
00:52:56,770 --> 00:53:00,710
but by power availability,
land and fiber infrastructure.

1062
00:53:00,710 --> 00:53:03,650
Second, are we having a
single center or a cluster.

1063
00:53:03,650 --> 00:53:08,550
Again, Brookings says that
economic benefits to communities

1064
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:12,830
require multiple facilities,
not single facilities.

1065
00:53:12,830 --> 00:53:14,930
What are we doing
about utilities.

1066
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:17,740
A Harvard study in
March of 2025 25,

1067
00:53:17,740 --> 00:53:20,540
showed evidence of
under-the-table agreements

1068
00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:23,720
between city commissions
and these companies,

1069
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,540
increasing rates
for communities.

1070
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:28,560
What kind of energy are
they going to be using.

1071
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Clean energy.

1072
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,860
Are we having noise barriers.

1073
00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:34,020
What kind of light
pollution should we expect.

1074
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:37,140
There's a hospital plan to
go right in across the street

1075
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:38,300
from this place.

1076
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,500
I am an ICU RN with
12 years experience

1077
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:44,420
in level 1 trauma centers.

1078
00:53:44,420 --> 00:53:47,460
That is a real concern
for patient healing.

1079
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:48,960
You're going to mix up
their days and nights.

1080
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,060
You're going to
get ICU delirium.

1081
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:53,260
Healing will take longer.

1082
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:55,040
Do we zone for noise protection.

1083
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,700
We need to have them
disclose their energy

1084
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,140
plan so we can evaluate
clean alternatives

1085
00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:01,180
during permitting also.

1086
00:54:01,180 --> 00:54:05,420
How are we going to use
their power during shortages.

1087
00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:07,740
Can I say one more
thing quickly.

1088
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:10,180
Battery storage versus diesel.

1089
00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:14,460
Pollution from diesel generators
during even limited blackouts

1090
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:19,250
showed in Virginia an
association with $300 million

1091
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:22,490
in annual public health costs,
increase for asthma and heart

1092
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:24,690
disease, and this is
from the World Resources

1093
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:26,070
Institute in February 2016.

1094
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:26,570
Thank you.

1095
00:54:26,570 --> 00:54:27,070
Thank you.

1096
00:54:27,070 --> 00:54:32,370


1097
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:32,870
Thank you.

1098
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:35,650


1099
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:39,970
We've got Alex up with
Greg Markowitz on deck.

1100
00:54:39,970 --> 00:54:44,330
Hey, I live on 25 460th road.

1101
00:54:44,330 --> 00:54:48,750
My grandfather was a geologist
at USU for 20 or 30 years.

1102
00:54:48,750 --> 00:54:51,770
He wrote papers that went to
Kansas University about how

1103
00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:54,510
there is a drought imminent
happening right now,

1104
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:57,590
despite the fact that we
have this extreme demand,

1105
00:54:57,590 --> 00:55:02,530
energy intensive, not to
mention the environmental costs.

1106
00:55:02,530 --> 00:55:04,330
This is going to accelerate
the drought that we're

1107
00:55:04,330 --> 00:55:06,370
already facing by tenfold.

1108
00:55:06,370 --> 00:55:08,110
And if you guys
don't recognize that,

1109
00:55:08,110 --> 00:55:10,970
I want you to ask yourself,
who do you actually represent.

1110
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:14,260
We represent the collective
population of Emporia.

1111
00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:16,440
You to me, represent
moneyed interests

1112
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,960
in the oligarchs in Washington
and everything that is

1113
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,000
going wrong with this country.

1114
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,160
You guys spent eight months
talking amongst yourselves

1115
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,020
and not sharing this with
the rest of the public,

1116
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:25,980
what is actually going on.

1117
00:55:25,980 --> 00:55:29,280
And then you give us two minutes
to come and try and stop this.

1118
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,180
You guys can have hell
to pay if you do this.

1119
00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:34,000
You need to ask yourself who
you really are deep down.

1120
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,300
What are you
actually doing here.

1121
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:38,260
Is this actually
beneficial for employee.

1122
00:55:38,260 --> 00:55:39,080
Yes or no.

1123
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,880
And how Why? you
should explain to us

1124
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,300
how it actually is like this
is a yes or no question.

1125
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:46,880
It's not a subjective matter.

1126
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,140
So let's get serious and
actually do our research.

1127
00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:51,700
Take the time to understand
what is actually going on.

1128
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:56,420
You have experts here speaking
for two minutes and OK,

1129
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:59,980
what else I got bit by a
dog here on the way here.

1130
00:55:59,980 --> 00:56:01,380
It's hard to be
a Good Samaritan.

1131
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,840
OK like this is insane.

1132
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,680
Congress just passed
a bill saying AI is

1133
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,460
not liable for responsibility.

1134
00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:11,200
Over 100 people dying
due to I. That's

1135
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,400
what these data processes
are going to be mulling over

1136
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,540
is the school in Iran that got
bombed due to I think about it,

1137
00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:22,660
think about what these data
centers are processing.

1138
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:25,340
It's not just our phones and
our Google search results.

1139
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:26,840
It's everything.

1140
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,580
It's everything.

1141
00:56:27,580 --> 00:56:28,700
And this is the Trump regime.

1142
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:29,800
This is fascism.

1143
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,760
This is the tech
oligarchs, the AI bubble

1144
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,100
that has taken over Americans.

1145
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,100
It's taken over Wall Street.

1146
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,600
It's the biggest financial
force in the world

1147
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,120
that we're just
opening our doors to.

1148
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,640
They have nothing to say.

1149
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Thank you.

1150
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,180
Have a good day.

1151
00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:48,400


1152
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,960
And then we have Victoria gonet.

1153
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,560
She was here earlier.

1154
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,000
Good morning,
Commissioner, and thank

1155
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,840
you for providing
this opportunity

1156
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,220
to make our feelings known.

1157
00:56:57,220 --> 00:56:58,080
I appreciate it.

1158
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,120
I just have one
point, and that point

1159
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:07,720
is an issue of this magnitude
and diversity and questions.

1160
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,790
This is not a decision to
be made by the five of you.

1161
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:15,910
It is a decision that
requires a vote of the people

1162
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:19,950
who will be affected.

1163
00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:21,530
This is not a behind the doors.

1164
00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:22,870
We're going to do this.

1165
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:25,030
This needs to be voted on.

1166
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:27,030
And the only reason
you won't vote on it

1167
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:29,510
is if you're afraid you're
going to lose the vote.

1168
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:32,290
Yep and that's my
two cents worth.

1169
00:57:32,290 --> 00:57:33,790
Take it for what it's worth.

1170
00:57:33,790 --> 00:57:35,570
And the other point
that I'll make.

1171
00:57:35,570 --> 00:57:36,950
And it's not a threat.

1172
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:39,030
But if you choose
not to vote on this,

1173
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:41,710
I can 100% guarantee
you there will be

1174
00:57:41,710 --> 00:57:43,530
a petition to force that vote.

1175
00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:45,930
And it won't be very
difficult to get signatures.

1176
00:57:45,930 --> 00:57:46,730
No it won't.

1177
00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:47,630
Thank you.

1178
00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:48,290
Thank you.

1179
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:55,030


1180
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:56,350
Thank you.

1181
00:57:56,350 --> 00:58:00,430
And then I have Jessica Danford.

1182
00:58:00,430 --> 00:58:02,630
Hi it's my first time.

1183
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:04,810
So, hi, I'm Victoria partridge.

1184
00:58:04,810 --> 00:58:06,310
I'm the founder and
executive director

1185
00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:09,580
of the street cats club,
and I'm here because Emporia

1186
00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:11,080
has a stray cat crisis.

1187
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,820
And despite the
incredible work being

1188
00:58:12,820 --> 00:58:15,140
done throughout our
community, the resources

1189
00:58:15,140 --> 00:58:18,020
currently available are not
keeping pace with the need.

1190
00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:19,620
In May alone, the
street cats club

1191
00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:22,340
received more than 149
requests for assistance

1192
00:58:22,340 --> 00:58:24,160
through phone calls,
text messages,

1193
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,860
Facebook messages and emails.

1194
00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:29,580
We added 191 cats to our
waiting list in a single month.

1195
00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:33,340
Today, there are more than 1040
cats waiting for spay neuter

1196
00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:34,940
services in Lyon County.

1197
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:38,420
Of those, 625 are located
right here in Emporia.

1198
00:58:38,420 --> 00:58:40,200
These are not numbers
on a spreadsheet.

1199
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,380
These are cats living behind
businesses and apartment

1200
00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:44,720
complexes and neighborhoods
and around our cities,

1201
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,460
parks and commercial areas.

1202
00:58:46,460 --> 00:58:48,680
They are producing litter
after litter of kittens,

1203
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,420
spreading disease, creating
nuisance concerns for residents

1204
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,100
and overwhelming the
limited resources

1205
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:54,660
available to help them.

1206
00:58:54,660 --> 00:58:56,220
The street cats club
is working to address

1207
00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:57,980
this value this issue.

1208
00:58:57,980 --> 00:59:01,020
In May, we spayed and
neutered 106 cats.

1209
00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:03,960
This year, we have already
spayed and neutered 543 cats,

1210
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,050
and we are on track to reach
1,000 cats by the end of 2026.

1211
00:59:08,050 --> 00:59:09,630
Most organizations
would celebrate.

1212
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:11,050
Numbers like these.

1213
00:59:11,050 --> 00:59:13,230
But while we fixed
106 cats in May,

1214
00:59:13,230 --> 00:59:16,490
191 more cats were added
to our waiting list.

1215
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:18,230
We are working harder
than ever before,

1216
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:21,090
yet the demand continues
to outpace our capacity.

1217
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:22,410
The reality is that
we cannot solve

1218
00:59:22,410 --> 00:59:25,290
a problem of this magnitude
without additional resources.

1219
00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:26,870
We received no city funding.

1220
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:28,030
We have no paid staff.

1221
00:59:28,030 --> 00:59:29,690
We borrow a van every
week to transport

1222
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:31,510
cats to spay neuter surgeries.

1223
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:33,970
We use a shed to house
cats waiting for surgeries.

1224
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:35,890
If we want fewer cats
in our streets, fewer

1225
00:59:35,890 --> 00:59:38,490
nuisance complaints, healthier
neighborhoods and reduced

1226
00:59:38,490 --> 00:59:41,190
pressure on local animal
welfare resources,

1227
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:43,690
we must continue expanding the
community's capacity to provide

1228
00:59:43,690 --> 00:59:45,250
spay neuter services.

1229
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:46,690
The street cats club
remains committed

1230
00:59:46,690 --> 00:59:49,330
to being part of that solution,
and we ask the city of Emporia

1231
00:59:49,330 --> 00:59:50,690
to partner with
us to address one

1232
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:52,850
of the most significant
animal welfare challenges

1233
00:59:52,850 --> 00:59:54,210
facing Emporia today.

1234
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:54,750
Thank you.

1235
00:59:54,750 --> 00:59:55,250
Thank you.

1236
00:59:55,250 --> 01:00:00,810
Thanks all.

1237
01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:03,510
Jessica Danford on ready to go.

1238
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:04,390
No and.

1239
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:05,430
Lou Clara.

1240
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:06,270
Jean Jacques.

1241
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:09,570


1242
01:00:09,570 --> 01:00:10,950
My name is Jessica Danford.

1243
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:14,290
I'm from 3532 West 20th Avenue.

1244
01:00:14,290 --> 01:00:17,750
I'm here today to speak,
as many others have had,

1245
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:21,290
about the proposed data center
and digital infrastructure that

1246
01:00:21,290 --> 01:00:23,210
the commission has announced.

1247
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:25,930
I would like to start by
saying, as has been evidenced

1248
01:00:25,930 --> 01:00:27,770
by the amount of people
who have come in today,

1249
01:00:27,770 --> 01:00:29,330
this is not a political issue.

1250
01:00:29,330 --> 01:00:32,250
This is a quality of life
issue for our community.

1251
01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:35,690
Data centers are growing faster
than regulation can keep up

1252
01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:39,250
with, and have led to negative
social, economic, and ecological

1253
01:00:39,250 --> 01:00:42,290
consequences in our community.

1254
01:00:42,290 --> 01:00:48,690
If we do not stop, this project
will contribute to these issues.

1255
01:00:48,690 --> 01:00:50,970
Examples of known
consequences of data centers

1256
01:00:50,970 --> 01:00:52,410
include the following.

1257
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:54,890
There's been an increased
production of known air

1258
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:59,250
pollutants, such as
methane and hydrogen oxide,

1259
01:00:59,250 --> 01:01:03,680
that can balloon into super
pollutants if not controlled

1260
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,880
further, there is insane
electricity usage with

1261
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,720
infrastructure like with an
estimated use of over 5300mw

1262
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,800
of electricity across the
country from data centers,

1263
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,520
which is in 2023, which is
more than many countries.

1264
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,740
This amount has only
increased over time.

1265
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:24,640
And the US Department of Energy
has said that the data centers

1266
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,520
alone will consume a total
of 12% of the country's

1267
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,120
total electricity by 2028.

1268
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,720
Data centers also cost a huge
amount to local communities,

1269
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,520
with electricity
costs increasing

1270
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,680
by over 33% since 2020,
with more than 70%

1271
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,680
of the increase impacting towns
within 50 miles of data centers.

1272
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,480
They also exacerbate water
strain issues in communities

1273
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,280
and create new ones in areas
without proper regulations,

1274
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,800
causing permanent damage
to local water sources

1275
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,600
if left unchecked.

1276
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,270
Over $20 billion
gallons of water

1277
01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:02,790
were used by data
centers in 2023,

1278
01:02:02,790 --> 01:02:07,110
and the amount has only
increased from there.

1279
01:02:07,110 --> 01:02:09,390
There's more I want to add, but
there's only a limited amount

1280
01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:13,030
of time, so I would like to
again present this information

1281
01:02:13,030 --> 01:02:16,670
in support of the Moratorium
and transparency of information

1282
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:18,950
with the community
before any further steps

1283
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:20,510
are taken on this project.

1284
01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:21,130
Thank you.

1285
01:02:21,130 --> 01:02:31,590
Yes we have looks.

1286
01:02:31,590 --> 01:02:36,990
Sorry and then
Helen Lacey on deck.

1287
01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:37,650
Hi, I'm Alex.

1288
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:39,910
Claire is 35, 32
West 20th Avenue.

1289
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:41,450
You just heard from
my lovely wife.

1290
01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:45,850
She did a lot more researching
than I did because as a teacher,

1291
01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:49,530
too busy to really be able
to spend some time on this.

1292
01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:51,630
But I want to let you
guys know that I moved

1293
01:02:51,630 --> 01:02:53,530
here with my family in 1993.

1294
01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:57,290
My dad took a job at Wolf
Creek, and if history serves,

1295
01:02:57,290 --> 01:02:58,940
if I remember
correctly, we didn't

1296
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:00,940
want Wolf Creek here
for you because of all

1297
01:03:00,940 --> 01:03:03,020
these fears of nuclear power.

1298
01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:06,240
Now, that is ridiculously
overblown in my opinion,

1299
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,140
because we have a really well
regulated nuclear program here

1300
01:03:10,140 --> 01:03:11,460
in America.

1301
01:03:11,460 --> 01:03:15,140
When Fukushima happened in
2011, Wolf Creek immediately

1302
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:18,600
bought more backup generators,
including extra parts,

1303
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,780
to build a whole
new backup generator

1304
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:22,840
so that we wouldn't
go under meltdown,

1305
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,180
just like Fukushima did in 2011.

1306
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:27,660
And these data centers
are not regulated

1307
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:32,380
to that extreme of an extent,
and that is a big problem.

1308
01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:35,100
We pride ourselves on our water.

1309
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:38,460
I see clips on
internet now that a lot

1310
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:41,320
of these cities that have
data centers, their water,

1311
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,540
are getting polluted.

1312
01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:44,580
The Brown water is coming
out of their spigots.

1313
01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:46,820
It's just like Flint,
Michigan all over again.

1314
01:03:46,820 --> 01:03:48,820
But now more widespread.

1315
01:03:48,820 --> 01:03:50,920
We're not going to have the
best tasting water in the world.

1316
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,460
It's like the best
tasting in the country.

1317
01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:56,220
If we had these kind
of data centers,

1318
01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:58,460
someone earlier said
that we're talking

1319
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:01,280
about gigawatt levels
of energy consumption,

1320
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,520
basic supply and demand.

1321
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,960
Economics would tell us
that with more demand,

1322
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,180
the prices go up.

1323
01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:08,440
Energy is already
jacking up our prices.

1324
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,600
This is only going to
exacerbate the issue.

1325
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,420
And since we're talking
about gigawatt levels

1326
01:04:13,420 --> 01:04:17,100
in March of this year, Wolf
Creek only generated not

1327
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:18,820
even one gigawatt.

1328
01:04:18,820 --> 01:04:21,480
Now your homes, whenever
you send you your bill,

1329
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,587
they talk in terms
of kilowatt hours.

1330
01:04:23,587 --> 01:04:25,120
I don't know if you know
your units very well.

1331
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,160
I'm a physics teacher,
so I do kilowatt hours.

1332
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,020
That's basic household stuff.

1333
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:32,920
Power plants push out megawatts.

1334
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,000
We're talking about gigawatts.

1335
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,020
We're talking about million
kilowatt hours here.

1336
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:39,140
So this is a huge
increase in energy

1337
01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:41,340
production or sorry, training.

1338
01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:42,740
Thank you for your time.

1339
01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:51,640
All right, I have.

1340
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:58,770


1341
01:04:58,770 --> 01:04:59,870
Helen Helen.

1342
01:04:59,870 --> 01:05:01,470
Helen it's OK.

1343
01:05:01,470 --> 01:05:03,270
I'm sorry.

1344
01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:05,330
Yeah OK.

1345
01:05:05,330 --> 01:05:06,210
Good morning.

1346
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:08,250
I would say it's an
honor to be here.

1347
01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:09,970
It's an honor to
speak in front of you

1348
01:05:09,970 --> 01:05:11,690
on behalf of the community.

1349
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:15,050
But given the circumstances,
I am slightly ashamed.

1350
01:05:15,050 --> 01:05:17,930
I live at 1622 Center Street.

1351
01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:19,570
I think I said that already.

1352
01:05:19,570 --> 01:05:21,550
I've lived in Emporia
for about three years.

1353
01:05:21,550 --> 01:05:23,510
I genuinely do love this city.

1354
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:25,270
I have found myself.

1355
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:27,210
I've met so many
incredible people.

1356
01:05:27,210 --> 01:05:29,190
I've learned so much
about everything.

1357
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:32,170


1358
01:05:32,170 --> 01:05:35,210
Even if we are to ignore the
proven environmental impacts

1359
01:05:35,210 --> 01:05:37,410
of an AI data center
that we've already

1360
01:05:37,410 --> 01:05:39,930
heard so much about the water,
it will consume the animals it

1361
01:05:39,930 --> 01:05:41,850
will kill, the heat it
will bring to a summer

1362
01:05:41,850 --> 01:05:44,050
that I've already seen bring
some of the strongest people

1363
01:05:44,050 --> 01:05:45,670
I've ever known to their knees.

1364
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:47,210
I cannot think of
a single person

1365
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:49,170
in Emporia that would
benefit from the construction

1366
01:05:49,170 --> 01:05:50,370
of a datacenter.

1367
01:05:50,370 --> 01:05:52,370
Certainly not myself
or my countless friends

1368
01:05:52,370 --> 01:05:55,120
who are artists whose lifelong
passions are most readily

1369
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,400
consumed and devalued by the
AI'S, powered by data centers,

1370
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,693
not the children that play in
the park below my apartment.

1371
01:06:00,693 --> 01:06:02,760
Who will have to grow up in a
world where the incredible power

1372
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,540
of their mind is
deferred to a computer,

1373
01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:06,340
and the objective
truth is a myth,

1374
01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:07,760
and not the local
business owners who

1375
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,200
are already fighting
a losing battle

1376
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,120
against large corporations.

1377
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,180
The data center provides nothing
for the people of Emporia,

1378
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:15,720
and we are all here
today to let you know

1379
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,280
that we will not
stand to be sold out

1380
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,160
for the profit of a select few.

1381
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,720
Please hear us and please
do not do this to us.

1382
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:31,000
Thank you.

1383
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,180
If you cannot control yourself,
we'll have to remove you.

1384
01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:37,360
So please try to be
respectful to everyone.

1385
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,960
More than two minutes.

1386
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,600
There will be a public
hearing on the 23rd.

1387
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,680
It's in this Civic
Auditorium at o'clock.

1388
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,200
So this is another
chance to speak.

1389
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:49,700
All right.

1390
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:52,170
Is there anybody else that
didn't get to sign up.

1391
01:06:52,170 --> 01:06:55,070
They just wants to talk.

1392
01:06:55,070 --> 01:06:56,090
What are you going to do.

1393
01:06:56,090 --> 01:06:58,230
The annexation.

1394
01:06:58,230 --> 01:07:02,610
We're annexing land today by
the request of property owners,

1395
01:07:02,610 --> 01:07:03,850
because that's who requests.

1396
01:07:03,850 --> 01:07:11,230
OK, so your manager said it was
by request of the developer.

1397
01:07:11,230 --> 01:07:13,650
Well, we will have
that discussion.

1398
01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:16,430
You're saying the
property owners.

1399
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:17,690
I may have misspoke.

1400
01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:21,430
I'll have to ask Justin to
come out in our business

1401
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:23,430
section coming up here shortly.

1402
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:25,690
Yeah Name and address.

1403
01:07:25,690 --> 01:07:29,590
Brenda Thompson, 1442 road, 130.

1404
01:07:29,590 --> 01:07:32,470
First of all, I want to say
I don't believe any of you

1405
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:34,750
are going to really
listen to this stuff.

1406
01:07:34,750 --> 01:07:36,090
We know it's environmental.

1407
01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:37,670
We know all those things.

1408
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:40,910
But it's obvious that you've
been working on this for a while

1409
01:07:40,910 --> 01:07:43,430
before you just
dropped the bomb on us.

1410
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:46,750
And these people here, and a
lot of people don't trust you.

1411
01:07:46,750 --> 01:07:47,670
That's right.

1412
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:49,070
A lot of people.

1413
01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:53,390
So what I want to and these
are rhetorical questions.

1414
01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:55,950
Do you know anything
about this Kwanzaa.

1415
01:07:55,950 --> 01:07:58,390
Whatever this the developer.

1416
01:07:58,390 --> 01:08:05,030
Because I do their first
LLC, I believe their LLC

1417
01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:07,050
was in Cedar Point, Kansas.

1418
01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:11,390
Then they requested to
move it to Lawrence.

1419
01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:16,250
And coincidentally, the news
I'm shooting from the hip here.

1420
01:08:16,250 --> 01:08:18,470
This is not prepared.

1421
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:22,149
The is it Nordstrom family.

1422
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:24,750
The guy that's the
representative for

1423
01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:27,750
this organization Nordstrom.

1424
01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:28,770
Garrett Nordstrom.

1425
01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:29,510
Thank you.

1426
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:32,710
Also has a business
where he does

1427
01:08:32,710 --> 01:08:36,109
community block grants
for hire and consulting.

1428
01:08:36,109 --> 01:08:37,850
Have you done any
work with that.

1429
01:08:37,850 --> 01:08:38,490
Have they.

1430
01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:42,390
I want to know have they offered
you any of their services

1431
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:46,109
and what is the mega
companies at Google.

1432
01:08:46,109 --> 01:08:48,380
Is it Meta.

1433
01:08:48,380 --> 01:08:50,399
Is it Grok.

1434
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,180
Who's behind this.

1435
01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:53,120
Who's behind this.

1436
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,399
Because none of us
are buying this.

1437
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:57,220
Cans of whatever they are.

1438
01:08:57,220 --> 01:08:58,740
None of us.

1439
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:03,479
So are you going to disclose who
the big giant behind this is.

1440
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,540
Eventually are you
going to do it up front.

1441
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:07,540
Thank you.

1442
01:09:07,540 --> 01:09:09,040
Thank you very much.

1443
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,380


1444
01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:14,140
All right.

1445
01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:15,000
Anybody else.

1446
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,620


1447
01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:20,640
Can I come up.

1448
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,180


1449
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:24,300
Good morning.

1450
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:25,760
My name is McKenna Phillips.

1451
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:32,300
My friends know me as I
live on 101006 Constitution.

1452
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:34,520
I've learned a lot from a lot
of the people in the room here.

1453
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,880
And I've seen you guys as
community members as well.

1454
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,220
I work at gravel, so
we see a lot of people,

1455
01:09:40,220 --> 01:09:42,880
and what I've learned from this.

1456
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,580
And watching your
faces the whole time

1457
01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:47,990
is you're scheming
for eight months on,

1458
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:49,350
this is what I'm getting at.

1459
01:09:49,350 --> 01:09:52,569
And then you call this
knitting that we can't even

1460
01:09:52,569 --> 01:09:55,190
ask you questions or do
any of that nonsense,

1461
01:09:55,190 --> 01:09:58,470
and everyone's already really
upset, and I can see it like,

1462
01:09:58,470 --> 01:10:00,930
this guy is over, like,
slouched in the corner

1463
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:02,550
and I can't even look up.

1464
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:04,710
Yeah all right,
let's be respectful.

1465
01:10:04,710 --> 01:10:06,450
You're asking us
to be respectful

1466
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:09,010
while you are
stomping on our necks

1467
01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:10,990
with this stupid data center.

1468
01:10:10,990 --> 01:10:12,370
We know it's bad.

1469
01:10:12,370 --> 01:10:14,070
We've seen towns
that have done this.

1470
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:16,470
I'm asking on a moral
sense as a human,

1471
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:18,370
if it's really worth it
for you to invest all

1472
01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:21,410
of this time money talking
to these people that

1473
01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:23,410
don't give a shit about us.

1474
01:10:23,410 --> 01:10:26,050
Like, what do you
expect us to do when

1475
01:10:26,050 --> 01:10:28,030
you push everybody this far.

1476
01:10:28,030 --> 01:10:28,710
Good question.

1477
01:10:28,710 --> 01:10:30,270
I don't want to.

1478
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:32,930
You want to live in a world
where your hospital, you

1479
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:36,050
got to go to the hospital
and you're outside

1480
01:10:36,050 --> 01:10:39,030
and your electricity
bill is through the roof.

1481
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:41,750
I can hardly pay my
electric bill as it is.

1482
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:44,880
And I live in a shoebox.

1483
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,840
You're asking all of
these working people

1484
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,600
to pay more for the
selflessness and betterment

1485
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,920
of people we don't even know.

1486
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,620
I just I don't understand
is what I'm saying.

1487
01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:57,880
I don't understand, and
I think everybody's going

1488
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,160
to be pretty mad about this.

1489
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,040
So I guess I'm just
asking you to be

1490
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,200
a little bit ashamed of yourself
over this, because it's a shame.

1491
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,040
Yeah shame out of here.

1492
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,120
Thank you.

1493
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,280
Thank you.

1494
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,480
Thank you.

1495
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:14,180
Thank you.

1496
01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:19,600


1497
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,020
My name is Caroline Conway.

1498
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:22,700
I live at 911 Weber street.

1499
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:24,840
I've lived here since 2010.

1500
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,660
Before that, I lived
here to go to college.

1501
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:27,860
And then I moved
away and came back.

1502
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:29,340
I love this community.

1503
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:30,880
This is my community.

1504
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,400
I am currently the
executive director

1505
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:38,240
of Blumhouse youth services,
the youth shelter in town.

1506
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,600
Doing something
like this that will

1507
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,750
not benefit the
community that will

1508
01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:44,410
take away from the community.

1509
01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:46,270
It will use our resources.

1510
01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:50,690
A data center of this magnitude
can replace a town of 30,000.

1511
01:11:50,690 --> 01:11:53,550
In terms of water usage
and electricity usage,

1512
01:11:53,550 --> 01:11:55,710
that's double the
size of Emporia.

1513
01:11:55,710 --> 01:11:57,570
So where is that
going to come from.

1514
01:11:57,570 --> 01:11:59,950
Because we still exist here.

1515
01:11:59,950 --> 01:12:03,970
And the prairie that we are
around the Tallgrass prairie,

1516
01:12:03,970 --> 01:12:06,470
we only have 4% of it left.

1517
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:10,370
So how is this going to
impact the Tallgrass prairie.

1518
01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:12,390
This is the only place it is.

1519
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:14,550
So when it's gone, it's gone.

1520
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:17,350
So it is really important that
before we push through this

1521
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:19,670
in the hopes of lining a
couple people's pockets

1522
01:12:19,670 --> 01:12:21,190
or however this
is coming through

1523
01:12:21,190 --> 01:12:25,010
because it is not benefiting us
before this gets pushed through.

1524
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:28,110
We really, really need
to do some studies.

1525
01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:30,350
I support the moratorium.

1526
01:12:30,350 --> 01:12:32,190
I believe the five
year moratorium would

1527
01:12:32,190 --> 01:12:33,870
be great to make sure
that this bubble doesn't

1528
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:35,450
burst while we're inside it.

1529
01:12:35,450 --> 01:12:38,410
Please, please, please
listen to the people.

1530
01:12:38,410 --> 01:12:39,910
None of us want this.

1531
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:40,410
None of us.

1532
01:12:40,410 --> 01:12:50,050
Thank you for coming over here.

1533
01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:55,790
Maybe she's being
voluntold to come up.

1534
01:12:55,790 --> 01:12:56,570
Thank you.

1535
01:12:56,570 --> 01:12:59,750


1536
01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:01,490
Hello my name is
Rosalie Krieger.

1537
01:13:01,490 --> 01:13:02,650
I'm at 5' State Street.

1538
01:13:02,650 --> 01:13:06,230
I appreciate you guys
extending this time.

1539
01:13:06,230 --> 01:13:07,730
Before I begin with the
rest of my comments,

1540
01:13:07,730 --> 01:13:08,870
I will say that
I'm unequivocally

1541
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:11,110
against this digital campus,
which I'm going to refer

1542
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:12,710
to as a data center,
because that is the term

1543
01:13:12,710 --> 01:13:13,790
most people are familiar with.

1544
01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:15,390
And I feel that trying
to change the terminology

1545
01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:19,510
to cloud and confuse people's
perception is unethical at best.

1546
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:21,150
I have several concerns.

1547
01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:23,437
The first is the speed of
which we are moving forward on.

1548
01:13:23,437 --> 01:13:25,270
This implies that either you
thought everybody would be

1549
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:28,030
on board with this, which
suggests that you're not very

1550
01:13:28,030 --> 01:13:29,830
in touch with the
people of this town,

1551
01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:31,570
or you do not care what
we're going to say,

1552
01:13:31,570 --> 01:13:33,590
and you're going to
move forward regardless.

1553
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:36,070
I would also just like to ask
a few questions, most of which

1554
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:37,580
have already been asked, next.

1555
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:39,980
Who is this LLC that has
been open for seven months

1556
01:13:39,980 --> 01:13:42,060
and has already moved from
Lawrence to a little ghost town

1557
01:13:42,060 --> 01:13:44,020
West of here and is
registered to someone

1558
01:13:44,020 --> 01:13:45,700
named Daniel Garrett Nordstrom.

1559
01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:48,140
A cursory search online only
brings up one person in Lawrence

1560
01:13:48,140 --> 01:13:50,240
with that name, Daniel
Garrett Nordstrom,

1561
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,500
who works at a firm called gas
government assistance service,

1562
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:56,060
which supposedly specializes in
helping small town governments

1563
01:13:56,060 --> 01:13:57,820
find money and funding.

1564
01:13:57,820 --> 01:14:01,700
I would ask if this is the same
person, has Emporia engaged

1565
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:03,200
the services of
his company before.

1566
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,260
And is this how that
relationship started.

1567
01:14:05,260 --> 01:14:07,420
I would also ask why one of
the only other businesses that

1568
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:10,420
is registered to his name
in Max brothers development

1569
01:14:10,420 --> 01:14:12,500
is registered to an
address here in Emporia

1570
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:15,900
and address, as far as I'm
aware, he does not live at.

1571
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:17,420
I'm also not sure if
anybody else in here

1572
01:14:17,420 --> 01:14:19,040
has dealt with
filing an LLC before,

1573
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,940
but there are people who can
basically act as the filing

1574
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:22,900
person and the contact
person for you to help keep

1575
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:24,420
your information
private, and they

1576
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:26,940
aren't necessarily affiliated
with the organization.

1577
01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:28,220
But that begs the
further question

1578
01:14:28,220 --> 01:14:30,540
if they are using a
signature or register,

1579
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:32,500
who really owns the company.

1580
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:34,900
And are we really going to trust
that any regulations we try

1581
01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:37,130
to put in force, forth, whether
it's power consumption, water

1582
01:14:37,130 --> 01:14:38,730
consumption, et
cetera, are going

1583
01:14:38,730 --> 01:14:41,630
to hold against a limited
liability company.

1584
01:14:41,630 --> 01:14:44,370
Not even an S corp or a
C corp limited liability

1585
01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:46,130
is in their name.

1586
01:14:46,130 --> 01:14:49,530
Additionally, we don't
have the infrastructure

1587
01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:52,210
to support our town now
with crumbling 100 plus

1588
01:14:52,210 --> 01:14:53,610
year old storm
drains that collapse

1589
01:14:53,610 --> 01:14:55,210
under the weight of
our own police vehicles

1590
01:14:55,210 --> 01:14:56,970
on our own Main Street.

1591
01:14:56,970 --> 01:14:59,770
Finally, I ask for a
moratorium on the data center,

1592
01:14:59,770 --> 01:15:03,150
an independent ecological
and economic impact study,

1593
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:04,570
and a public vote
on the measure.

1594
01:15:04,570 --> 01:15:05,330
Thank you.

1595
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:05,870
Thank you.

1596
01:15:05,870 --> 01:15:14,330


1597
01:15:14,330 --> 01:15:17,650
Hello you're up next.

1598
01:15:17,650 --> 01:15:18,270
Hi, guys.

1599
01:15:18,270 --> 01:15:19,590
I'm Sarah Brian.

1600
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:24,090
I live at 1850 road S And I
was born and raised in Emporia.

1601
01:15:24,090 --> 01:15:26,450
I love this town,
and I'd just like

1602
01:15:26,450 --> 01:15:30,370
to state that I am completely
against this data center.

1603
01:15:30,370 --> 01:15:32,570
And I'd like to know
if the five of you

1604
01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:36,580
are public servants
or corporate cronies.

1605
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:38,120
Sorry, I'm a little nervous.

1606
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,660
If you vote through the
annexation of this land,

1607
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:44,240
we can only assume you will
vote yes for this data center.

1608
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,480
This issue needs to be
put to a public vote,

1609
01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:53,280
so that the 0.00045% of the
town standing in front of me

1610
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:59,240
does not speak for the
99.99945% of this town.

1611
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,560
For that to happen, we
need to sign a petition.

1612
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,240
20% of this town so we can
put this to a public vote.

1613
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,320
Thank you.

1614
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:08,480
Yes thank you.

1615
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:08,980
Thank you.

1616
01:16:08,980 --> 01:16:15,840


1617
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,820
Hello my name is
Christy Deckert.

1618
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:21,240
I grew up in this
community, and I

1619
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,120
was very excited
about eight years ago

1620
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,920
to move back and buy a
gorgeous property on road F5.

1621
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,580
Now, if you have been
looking at the maps,

1622
01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:34,440
you'll see that
gorgeous property

1623
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:39,000
is now encircled by a plan
to have a data center on it.

1624
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,240
Very exciting, I'm sure.

1625
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,640
I want to echo
everybody's concerns

1626
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,920
about the environmental
impacts, the physical impacts

1627
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,920
on our public health.

1628
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,760
The impacts on our
infrastructure,

1629
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,800
the potential
costs in utilities.

1630
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:02,960
And I want to add my voice to
the call for a public vote,

1631
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,560
but not just those who can
vote in city elections.

1632
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,820
Because guess what.

1633
01:17:09,820 --> 01:17:13,480
It is those of us in
Lyon County jurisdiction

1634
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:16,880
that are going to be
surrounded by this monstrosity.

1635
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,880
Thank you.

1636
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,540
That's right.

1637
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:19,180
Thank you.

1638
01:17:19,180 --> 01:17:26,520


1639
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:27,020
All right.

1640
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:30,270
Is there anyone else.

1641
01:17:30,270 --> 01:17:32,310
Good morning, Sir.

1642
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:33,430
Let me do one.

1643
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:34,910
Oh no thanks.

1644
01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:36,350
You can get that.

1645
01:17:36,350 --> 01:17:40,690
My name is Tracy Graham, and I'm
a former resident of Emporia,

1646
01:17:40,690 --> 01:17:43,190
currently living
in Chase County.

1647
01:17:43,190 --> 01:17:47,190
I moved to Emporia in 1999.

1648
01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:50,150
First year was pretty rough,
but then we learned to love

1649
01:17:50,150 --> 01:17:52,190
it really quickly after that.

1650
01:17:52,190 --> 01:17:57,770
Lived here for 26 years and
now we live in Chase County.

1651
01:17:57,770 --> 01:18:05,170
And it's probable that if this
data center were to go forward,

1652
01:18:05,170 --> 01:18:11,310
it probably would not impact
me directly because I have

1653
01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:13,450
solar panels and I have my own.

1654
01:18:13,450 --> 01:18:15,190
Well, and so I
don't need to worry

1655
01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:17,430
about the energy and
water anybody else

1656
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:18,630
needs to worry about.

1657
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:22,710
If you live here,
but I do shop here,

1658
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:26,590
and I dine here on a
very regular basis.

1659
01:18:26,590 --> 01:18:32,980
And if the local businesses
here are impacted by increased

1660
01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:38,040
energy costs and water drought.

1661
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:43,220
I mean, we had drought when we
were asked to conserve water

1662
01:18:43,220 --> 01:18:47,180
in a rationed water a
few several years ago,

1663
01:18:47,180 --> 01:18:48,920
and that will happen again.

1664
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,460
It's part of the natural cycle.

1665
01:18:51,460 --> 01:19:01,500
And when you have drought,
who's going to suffer most.

1666
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:07,320
So it doesn't impact me
much, but it really matters.

1667
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,940
And that land right
now that you're

1668
01:19:09,940 --> 01:19:16,700
talking about annexing today
is currently performing

1669
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:18,740
a function economically.

1670
01:19:18,740 --> 01:19:22,500
Ecologically there's water
that isn't being dumped

1671
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:24,040
into the rivers immediately.

1672
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,710
And if you pave that
and put buildings on it.

1673
01:19:26,710 --> 01:19:28,550
You're going to have
increased runoff.

1674
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:34,770
You could wind up with the irony
of flooding during drought.

1675
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:38,890
Too much water in one place
while you're using up the water

1676
01:19:38,890 --> 01:19:42,190
to cool some of these, I grew.

1677
01:19:42,190 --> 01:19:49,330


1678
01:19:49,330 --> 01:19:50,590
The more I live in.

1679
01:19:50,590 --> 01:19:52,250
11:09 Luther street.

1680
01:19:52,250 --> 01:19:54,150
Y'all have taken a
beating here today.

1681
01:19:54,150 --> 01:19:59,610


1682
01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:04,810
I understand that you all are
in a very difficult situation.

1683
01:20:04,810 --> 01:20:06,450
Companies are closing.

1684
01:20:06,450 --> 01:20:10,130
The economy is down and
you guys are under the gun

1685
01:20:10,130 --> 01:20:13,570
to fix this, fix the
economy and Emporia

1686
01:20:13,570 --> 01:20:16,930
because people are
scared, people are upset

1687
01:20:16,930 --> 01:20:19,910
and you are under the
gun to find a solution.

1688
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:21,850
I get that.

1689
01:20:21,850 --> 01:20:27,090
But somebody once told
me that's the reason

1690
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:31,450
the temptation is tempting
is because it looks

1691
01:20:31,450 --> 01:20:35,130
like a good idea at the time.

1692
01:20:35,130 --> 01:20:39,210
Consider the possibility
that this data

1693
01:20:39,210 --> 01:20:43,770
center is a temptation.

1694
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:49,090
Maybe it looks like
a good idea for now,

1695
01:20:49,090 --> 01:20:53,490
but maybe once
you've reconsidered.

1696
01:20:53,490 --> 01:20:59,290
Maybe you'll discover that it
just looked like a good idea

1697
01:20:59,290 --> 01:21:00,930
at the time.

1698
01:21:00,930 --> 01:21:02,810
And what.

1699
01:21:02,810 --> 01:21:06,770
It's OK to say what.

1700
01:21:06,770 --> 01:21:09,490
We thought that looked
like a good idea,

1701
01:21:09,490 --> 01:21:12,010
but that was just a temptation.

1702
01:21:12,010 --> 01:21:17,130
We realize now that was
not the right thing to do.

1703
01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:20,210
And if you make that
decision, if you come out

1704
01:21:20,210 --> 01:21:25,080
with that statement that
says what, Emporia citizens,

1705
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,600
you were right.

1706
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,000
We were tempted, but
we were mistaken.

1707
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,360
If you have the
courage to do that

1708
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,300
will not be a sign of weakness.

1709
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:38,880
That will be a sign of strength,
and you will have regained

1710
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,540
the respect of this community.

1711
01:21:41,540 --> 01:21:47,360


1712
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,060
Thank you.

1713
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:50,800


1714
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,960
Boy one if you would
permit me another minute,

1715
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,620
and we have to permit
everybody a minute.

1716
01:21:56,620 --> 01:21:57,800
One more minute.

1717
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,440
No, but everybody would have
to have an additional minute.

1718
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:02,220
Oh, I give you a minute.

1719
01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:03,220
We'll let her be the only one.

1720
01:22:03,220 --> 01:22:04,060
We'll let her be the only one.

1721
01:22:04,060 --> 01:22:04,560
We can't.

1722
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:05,300
We can't do that.

1723
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:06,280
We get into.

1724
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,220
Oh, of course, you can.

1725
01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:09,700
Expand your meeting time.

1726
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:10,820
Expand your meeting time.

1727
01:22:10,820 --> 01:22:12,100
Two minutes is a shame.

1728
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:13,560
Yep sure is.

1729
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,840
Come on in.

1730
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,820
Hi, I'm Max Coldiron.

1731
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:19,960
I live at 1102 East street.

1732
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,430
I'm going to shake
and my voice is

1733
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:24,150
going to warble the whole
time because I'm terrified.

1734
01:22:24,150 --> 01:22:24,890
Talk to us.

1735
01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:26,990
You're right.

1736
01:22:26,990 --> 01:22:28,730
I've lived here for seven years.

1737
01:22:28,730 --> 01:22:34,150
I came to get a degree,
and I have in biology,

1738
01:22:34,150 --> 01:22:38,910
and I ask that before you move
forward on anything like this,

1739
01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:42,670
you take a second
to go for a walk

1740
01:22:42,670 --> 01:22:45,710
and just appreciate
this beautiful land

1741
01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:47,310
that we have here.

1742
01:22:47,310 --> 01:22:51,470
I grew up in Wichita, and
most of my natural exposure

1743
01:22:51,470 --> 01:22:55,150
was a couple acres plot called
Great Plains nature center.

1744
01:22:55,150 --> 01:22:57,290
And over the course
of my education,

1745
01:22:57,290 --> 01:22:59,790
I have been taken
to so many just

1746
01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:02,670
expansive, beautiful
pieces of land

1747
01:23:02,670 --> 01:23:08,710
directly surrounding the
city or even inside of it.

1748
01:23:08,710 --> 01:23:13,090
And I hate the idea
that we would lose that.

1749
01:23:13,090 --> 01:23:16,410
Yeah Thank you.

1750
01:23:16,410 --> 01:23:19,160
And also, please do look
up the Neosho madtom.

1751
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:19,960
It's adorable.

1752
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:28,660


1753
01:23:28,660 --> 01:23:30,420
This is just a regular
scheduled meeting, so we

1754
01:23:30,420 --> 01:23:32,600
have a long other agenda to go.

1755
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,660
But I want to give
everybody a chance.

1756
01:23:34,660 --> 01:23:37,980
Going once, twice.

1757
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:40,200
Monthly statement
for a moratorium.

1758
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,200
We will move on to
our regular business.

1759
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:43,840
New business.

1760
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,640
Appoint member to the
human relations commission.

1761
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,220


1762
01:23:50,220 --> 01:23:55,260
So Tammy and I. And it had
been recommended for us

1763
01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:57,000
with staff's recommendation.

1764
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,180
And so we will approve the
appointment of Angela Acosta

1765
01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:03,020
to motion to approve
the appointment

1766
01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:07,020
of Angela Acosta cruise to the
human relations commission.

1767
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:11,080
Second, it's been moved and
seconded to approve her.

1768
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,180
Is there any other discussion.

1769
01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:14,420
All in favor, say Aye.

1770
01:24:14,420 --> 01:24:16,580
Aye Motion passes.

1771
01:24:16,580 --> 01:24:19,540
Now we award the bid for the
airport 24 hour refueling

1772
01:24:19,540 --> 01:24:25,100
equipment, installation,
and that line of finding

1773
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:28,020
somewhere back there.

1774
01:24:28,020 --> 01:24:29,400
Brian silcock.

1775
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,040
Hold on.

1776
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:40,300


1777
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:42,780
Is Julian here.

1778
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:45,453
Grab Julian to Brandon, please.

1779
01:24:45,453 --> 01:24:47,120
Yeah there's plenty of
room for anybody out there.

1780
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,380


1781
01:24:51,380 --> 01:24:54,140
We're out there.

1782
01:24:54,140 --> 01:24:55,380
We have staff.

1783
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:56,460
Keep talking.

1784
01:24:56,460 --> 01:24:58,900
Oh, OK.

1785
01:24:58,900 --> 01:25:01,520
Can you guys give us a minute.

1786
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,880
Yeah OK.

1787
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,340
Yeah just a 30 second delay.

1788
01:25:06,340 --> 01:25:09,720
Is Julian.

1789
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:14,450
Two .51 seconds.

1790
01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:18,030
Not Juliette.

1791
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:20,490
Come on up and tell
us what you're doing.

1792
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:22,390
Yeah, you probably
know more than one.

1793
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:23,270
Got drink and everything.

1794
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:24,070
Yeah here I am.

1795
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:26,490
Come at me.

1796
01:25:26,490 --> 01:25:28,250
Did you guys appoint members.

1797
01:25:28,250 --> 01:25:30,930
No OK.

1798
01:25:30,930 --> 01:25:31,990
Sorry go for it.

1799
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:33,890
Tell us what it's about.

1800
01:25:33,890 --> 01:25:37,370
So, what I need you to do
today is to award a grant

1801
01:25:37,370 --> 01:25:40,970
for the 24 hour services.

1802
01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:44,390
So what it is it's all
the equipment we need.

1803
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:46,750
The new tanks, the
new dispensers,

1804
01:25:46,750 --> 01:25:52,530
the piping, electrical,
all that is in this bid.

1805
01:25:52,530 --> 01:25:54,290
And our stuff
that's out there now

1806
01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:55,950
looks like it was
before I was born.

1807
01:25:55,950 --> 01:25:57,730
It's all 30 years old.

1808
01:25:57,730 --> 01:26:00,250
OK no longer apparent.

1809
01:26:00,250 --> 01:26:02,030
I can't get parts for it.

1810
01:26:02,030 --> 01:26:04,130
I mean, I'm an old guy.

1811
01:26:04,130 --> 01:26:06,610
We've been holding
this thing together.

1812
01:26:06,610 --> 01:26:08,230
It was going to be the
city paying for it.

1813
01:26:08,230 --> 01:26:11,050
But we did get the
dot to give us a grant

1814
01:26:11,050 --> 01:26:12,970
to take care of this problem.

1815
01:26:12,970 --> 01:26:14,320
They gave us 280.

1816
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,960
Some estimation was 260.

1817
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,400
All you're doing today is
the equipment and stuff.

1818
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:25,240
I'll be back next meeting
for the concrete bid for you

1819
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,320
to approve it.

1820
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:26,820
All right.

1821
01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:27,320
Thank you.

1822
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,840
I would like to make a motion
to authorize the city manager

1823
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,280
to enter into a
purchase agreement

1824
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,200
for the installation of a
dual fuel, ground aviation

1825
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,280
fueling system capable of
supporting unattended 24 hour

1826
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,160
aircraft fuel
fueling operations,

1827
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,580
including dedicated
things for storage,

1828
01:26:44,580 --> 01:26:47,300
aviation dispensing equipment,
fuel quality controls.

1829
01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:49,880
Automated transaction
capability associated equipment

1830
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,380
necessary to support relocation
for the airport fuel point.

1831
01:26:53,380 --> 01:26:57,200
Does that sound like it covers
it all that covers it second.

1832
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,480
Motion and second
to award the 24 hour

1833
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:02,120
refueling equipment
installation with the grant.

1834
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,080
Any other discussion.

1835
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,280
Do we need to add a little
bit that's on this team.

1836
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,960
I might know the equipment.

1837
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,050
Oh we're just authorizing
trade to do that,

1838
01:27:14,050 --> 01:27:16,910
to enter into an agreement.

1839
01:27:16,910 --> 01:27:18,210
Do you want me to
say little bit.

1840
01:27:18,210 --> 01:27:19,990
Is that what you're saying.

1841
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:21,230
For the little bit.

1842
01:27:21,230 --> 01:27:23,870
Sure Are you guys recommending.

1843
01:27:23,870 --> 01:27:26,630
I would recommend you not
use the low bid recommend.

1844
01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:29,970
There's a couple of reasons
why the bid from linings.

1845
01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:32,290
Yeah, they were
wanting the middle.

1846
01:27:32,290 --> 01:27:34,390
Yeah we would like to
recommend homedale.

1847
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:37,490
Homedale had more of your
cost quantified in the bid.

1848
01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:40,130
And the other one
was additional cost.

1849
01:27:40,130 --> 01:27:45,670
So I'm amending my motion to
approve to do that work for you.

1850
01:27:45,670 --> 01:27:47,230
Second yeah.

1851
01:27:47,230 --> 01:27:48,330
Second second.

1852
01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:50,070
Still good Yes All right.

1853
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:51,450
Any other discussion.

1854
01:27:51,450 --> 01:27:51,970
Good catch.

1855
01:27:51,970 --> 01:27:54,190
Curt all in favor, say Aye.

1856
01:27:54,190 --> 01:27:57,110
Aye Motion carries.

1857
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:57,650
All right.

1858
01:27:57,650 --> 01:27:58,710
Thank you.

1859
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:00,950
Brian, don't go anywhere.

1860
01:28:00,950 --> 01:28:01,490
That's right.

1861
01:28:01,490 --> 01:28:02,250
Solid waste.

1862
01:28:02,250 --> 01:28:03,350
It's always good to talk about.

1863
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:03,850
Thank you.

1864
01:28:03,850 --> 01:28:07,790
And I appreciate
Tina weeks who's here

1865
01:28:07,790 --> 01:28:10,650
as our solid waste manager.

1866
01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:16,940
And she has spent an illustrious
career at the transfer station

1867
01:28:16,940 --> 01:28:18,780
and was promoted.

1868
01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:20,220
She's the woman right there.

1869
01:28:20,220 --> 01:28:22,560
She knows where we're at.

1870
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,300
Yes Well, what we
have before you today,

1871
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:28,060
we've discussed several
times in study sessions,

1872
01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:32,700
and we are presenting
a solid waste

1873
01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:34,720
master plan for the utility.

1874
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,820
But it's more than
just a master plan

1875
01:28:36,820 --> 01:28:40,140
and incorporate the cost
of service rate analysis,

1876
01:28:40,140 --> 01:28:45,300
the operational assessment
on whether for both route

1877
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:51,140
efficiency, the customer
class type, container types,

1878
01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:54,860
the full detail, as well as a
capital improvement program, how

1879
01:28:54,860 --> 01:28:58,780
to fund said capital
improvement program, and then

1880
01:28:58,780 --> 01:29:02,320
also to look at our procurement
and business strategy,

1881
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:07,020
for lack of a better word, to
make sure that we're following

1882
01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:09,180
a process and structure
that ensures that we're

1883
01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:13,220
being efficient and
maximizing our return

1884
01:29:13,220 --> 01:29:14,980
on the public dollars.

1885
01:29:14,980 --> 01:29:21,240
So we presented this for
bid previously in March.

1886
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,420
And as you are
aware, we have had

1887
01:29:25,420 --> 01:29:30,300
burns and Mac assessing several
of our utility operations.

1888
01:29:30,300 --> 01:29:34,340
They have a history,
a long history

1889
01:29:34,340 --> 01:29:36,740
of such things for sanitation.

1890
01:29:36,740 --> 01:29:40,500
One of the benefits and why we
feel they were the strongest

1891
01:29:40,500 --> 01:29:45,100
of the two submittals, was
not only are we looking at how

1892
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:47,760
should we be doing things
and are we doing things,

1893
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,580
and how do we
compare and benchmark

1894
01:29:49,580 --> 01:29:57,140
but also, as consumers.

1895
01:29:57,140 --> 01:30:00,860
There is a cost
entailed to everything.

1896
01:30:00,860 --> 01:30:03,420
And as a municipal
service provider

1897
01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:10,890
of water, sewer, and stormwater
the solid waste, sanitation.

1898
01:30:10,890 --> 01:30:14,970
We run things essentially
as a nonprofit.

1899
01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:18,250
And so that requires that we
do maximize the public dollars

1900
01:30:18,250 --> 01:30:20,930
and are as efficient and
effective as possible.

1901
01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:26,270
So with that being said,
the aggregate burden,

1902
01:30:26,270 --> 01:30:29,550
in other words, if we're looking
at all of these improvements,

1903
01:30:29,550 --> 01:30:32,170
many of which are
necessitated by regulations

1904
01:30:32,170 --> 01:30:36,430
and minimizing the potential
for a single point of failure,

1905
01:30:36,430 --> 01:30:38,450
meaning if you're at
the wastewater plant

1906
01:30:38,450 --> 01:30:42,090
or you're at the water plant
and this piece of equipment

1907
01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:45,090
or this process
goes down, you're

1908
01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:47,890
without water for days
or weeks until you're

1909
01:30:47,890 --> 01:30:50,290
able to get that brought
up online so that you

1910
01:30:50,290 --> 01:30:52,130
have redundancies and whatnot.

1911
01:30:52,130 --> 01:30:57,370
So one of the benefits of
utilizing the same firm

1912
01:30:57,370 --> 01:31:01,250
but different experts
to assess this is they

1913
01:31:01,250 --> 01:31:04,250
can not only give us
that business benchmark

1914
01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:08,600
but also then help us weigh the
priorities on how we can try

1915
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,040
and balance all of this so
that we are keeping in mind

1916
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,880
that aggregate burden
that we're placing

1917
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,680
on ourselves and our neighbors.

1918
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:23,600
So with that, what
this is 108,500.

1919
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,800
It's essentially a task order.

1920
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,480
And we're asking that
you authorize the manager

1921
01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:33,480
to execute that agreement and
to declare this is actually

1922
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:34,940
what we talked about last week.

1923
01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:36,900
So two weeks ago.

1924
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:39,600
So this is not just
coming out of left field.

1925
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,800
I'd like to make a motion to
authorize the execution of task

1926
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,540
order number 3 with Burns
McDonnell engineering company,

1927
01:31:46,540 --> 01:31:50,680
in the amount of $105,800 for
the completion of the solid

1928
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,880
waste facility master plan
to provide the city with

1929
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,940
a comprehensive plan initiative
intended to evaluate operations,

1930
01:31:57,940 --> 01:32:00,600
finances, rates,
capital planning,

1931
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,110
workforce consolidations,
automated opportunities

1932
01:32:04,110 --> 01:32:05,750
and future proceeds.

1933
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:08,430
Procurement strategies
in support of logdump

1934
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:11,830
utility sustainability.

1935
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:14,310
Second I have a motion and
a second for the solid waste

1936
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:16,330
utility master plan
task agreement.

1937
01:32:16,330 --> 01:32:19,910
Any other comments.

1938
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:20,570
Seeing none.

1939
01:32:20,570 --> 01:32:21,610
All in favor, say Aye.

1940
01:32:21,610 --> 01:32:23,090
Aye Motion passes.

1941
01:32:23,090 --> 01:32:23,630
Thank you.

1942
01:32:23,630 --> 01:32:24,310
Thank you.

1943
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:25,890
Thanks, guys Mr. Hubert.

1944
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:34,790
Close mayor Smith and
commissioners, in your packet

1945
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:39,430
is the C clip KC clip
geometric improvements project

1946
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:42,550
on Kansas 99 commercial
street from soden's road

1947
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:44,550
to Kansas Avenue.

1948
01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:47,070
So city engineering
staff designed

1949
01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:48,830
this project, this
federal aid project

1950
01:32:48,830 --> 01:32:49,930
over the last three years.

1951
01:32:49,930 --> 01:32:55,750
And House and CDOT
then is administering

1952
01:32:55,750 --> 01:33:01,110
the bidding and construction
engineering side of the project.

1953
01:33:01,110 --> 01:33:02,410
On May 20th.

1954
01:33:02,410 --> 01:33:03,610
Get outbid it.

1955
01:33:03,610 --> 01:33:05,390
They had four bidders.

1956
01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:08,670
Kilo construction
is the low bidder.

1957
01:33:08,670 --> 01:33:16,790
So we are asking the city
staff or city staff's

1958
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:22,030
recommending that the commission
approve awarding it to kilo

1959
01:33:22,030 --> 01:33:25,150
construction and authorizing the
mayor to sign cdot's authority

1960
01:33:25,150 --> 01:33:27,790
to award the contract,
which is our commitment

1961
01:33:27,790 --> 01:33:29,870
of city funds to the project.

1962
01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:31,150
When do they start.

1963
01:33:31,150 --> 01:33:33,630
They have a two
week window starting

1964
01:33:33,630 --> 01:33:37,650
late June through July 6.

1965
01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:41,790
I think the Monday
after 4th of July.

1966
01:33:41,790 --> 01:33:43,770
So I can answer any questions
that you might have.

1967
01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:46,310


1968
01:33:46,310 --> 01:33:47,870
It's been a long time coming.

1969
01:33:47,870 --> 01:33:49,110
It has been.

1970
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:52,670
Yeah I'll make a motion
to authorize the mayor

1971
01:33:52,670 --> 01:33:56,070
to sign authority or contract
commitment of city funds

1972
01:33:56,070 --> 01:34:04,700
for CDOT, CG project
number 568727401.

1973
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:06,060
Second second.

1974
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:13,700
Motion to award the
KC project 056727401.

1975
01:34:13,700 --> 01:34:15,760
And have the mayor to sign.

1976
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,500
Is there any other
discussion to add.

1977
01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:20,700
There we go.

1978
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:24,240
I'd like to make a point that
they beat your estimate again.

1979
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:25,580
Yes they did.

1980
01:34:25,580 --> 01:34:27,940
Are you just
Messing with us now.

1981
01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:28,560
Thank you.

1982
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,460
And before we start
annexing, I'd like to.

1983
01:34:30,460 --> 01:34:32,340
I had in my mind on
our consent agenda

1984
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:34,320
is all voluntary
coming into the city.

1985
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,660
Those are the people
I was speaking

1986
01:34:35,660 --> 01:34:37,420
to about when we were annexing.

1987
01:34:37,420 --> 01:34:41,620
I understand that.

1988
01:34:41,620 --> 01:34:44,260
Can you say what you just
said again, so I understand.

1989
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:44,840
I'm sorry.

1990
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,360
When you were doing it.

1991
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,020
Yeah Justin.

1992
01:34:49,020 --> 01:34:50,360
Justin speaks.

1993
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,260
Becky said hi.

1994
01:34:51,260 --> 01:34:53,300
OK sorry, sorry.

1995
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:53,800
Thank you.

1996
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,540


1997
01:34:57,540 --> 01:35:00,170
I made a career out
of speaking, Brian.

1998
01:35:00,170 --> 01:35:01,730
Oh, for.

1999
01:35:01,730 --> 01:35:05,970
For 15 years, I was able to
translate Brian ease to city

2000
01:35:05,970 --> 01:35:07,890
commissioners and other staff.

2001
01:35:07,890 --> 01:35:08,870
People like that.

2002
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:10,950
So I get what you're saying.

2003
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:12,750
OK good afternoon.

2004
01:35:12,750 --> 01:35:15,930
Now, Mayor and council, Justin
Gibbons, Director of building

2005
01:35:15,930 --> 01:35:17,410
and neighborhood development.

2006
01:35:17,410 --> 01:35:21,450
Before you, we have
several voluntary petitions

2007
01:35:21,450 --> 01:35:24,650
and consents for
annexation for property

2008
01:35:24,650 --> 01:35:26,690
located outside the city.

2009
01:35:26,690 --> 01:35:29,490
We were asked to provide
an overview of some

2010
01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:34,810
of the past annexations that
we've done here recently,

2011
01:35:34,810 --> 01:35:38,970
bringing in several tracks and
then some additional tracks

2012
01:35:38,970 --> 01:35:42,730
that really the first
track that was annexed

2013
01:35:42,730 --> 01:35:45,210
was industrial
park for those are

2014
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:48,850
tracks 5, 6, and
7 on the map that

2015
01:35:48,850 --> 01:35:51,010
was provided on the overview.

2016
01:35:51,010 --> 01:35:57,240
Those were done in
2025, 2024, I believe.

2017
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,160
And then subsequent to
that, just recently,

2018
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:06,760
track number 8 was annexed,
as well as track number 9.

2019
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:12,040
Going forward we and then also.

2020
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,000
I think track 11 was.

2021
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:21,000
Previously annexed to but
so going forward the request

2022
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,240
is basically to extend for
track 10 and then go up North

2023
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:31,320
where track 1, 2, 3, and
4 are right now to annex

2024
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,600
into the city.

2025
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:40,200
Does that cover your
question or concerns.

2026
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,280
So the owners of
those properties.

2027
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,520
So yeah, so the owners
gave the developer

2028
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:51,620
consent and their option
to petition for annexation.

2029
01:36:51,620 --> 01:36:55,220
So the owners the owner's
agent is the owner's agent.

2030
01:36:55,220 --> 01:36:56,220
Agent yes.

2031
01:36:56,220 --> 01:36:58,300
Through the developer, they
gave that consent to them.

2032
01:36:58,300 --> 01:37:00,660
So basically, I think
what the confusion is,

2033
01:37:00,660 --> 01:37:01,980
and we can state it.

2034
01:37:01,980 --> 01:37:05,360
And I'll let Trey give
his Trey speech on it.

2035
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,640
If the project didn't go
through what happens next.

2036
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,180
That would probably
help everybody.

2037
01:37:10,180 --> 01:37:13,020
Yeah so these are
voluntary annexations.

2038
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:16,760
We have a voluntary annexation
policy where if the project does

2039
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:21,580
not go through, they can request
that the commission annex it,

2040
01:37:21,580 --> 01:37:22,133
those portions.

2041
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:23,600
And that's what we're
anticipating to happen

2042
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,760
if this doesn't happen.

2043
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,620
It stays rural ag land
that these annexed.

2044
01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:31,300
It does take an
ordinance to do that.

2045
01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:32,620
So we can't do it in advance.

2046
01:37:32,620 --> 01:37:35,740
But that's part of that
voluntary annexation policy.

2047
01:37:35,740 --> 01:37:40,400
And also part of that is if
it is currently touching city

2048
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,680
property, it can be annexed
into the city with the owner's

2049
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,320
consent owner or agent through
their consent, which is

2050
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,900
what they're doing right now.

2051
01:37:48,900 --> 01:37:51,720
Yes so we're
annexing land already

2052
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,330
story touches other
parts of the city.

2053
01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:58,590
So for growth of Emporia, at any
point, this might be annexed.

2054
01:37:58,590 --> 01:38:00,790
Yes correct.

2055
01:38:00,790 --> 01:38:02,670
No, we're not requesting it.

2056
01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:03,410
The owner.

2057
01:38:03,410 --> 01:38:05,710
The owner through the agent.

2058
01:38:05,710 --> 01:38:09,570
Yes I didn't catch when 11 was.

2059
01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:11,650
What date was it.

2060
01:38:11,650 --> 01:38:12,950
That 11 was two weeks ago.

2061
01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:13,450
Two weeks ago.

2062
01:38:13,450 --> 01:38:14,230
Two weeks ago.

2063
01:38:14,230 --> 01:38:20,270
Yeah Two weeks ago at
our previous meeting.

2064
01:38:20,270 --> 01:38:22,270
All right.

2065
01:38:22,270 --> 01:38:23,890
When we need to do each
one separate, though.

2066
01:38:23,890 --> 01:38:27,630
So that Terry can put
it all in nice form.

2067
01:38:27,630 --> 01:38:29,250
Each one is a
separate ordinance.

2068
01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:30,270
All right.

2069
01:38:30,270 --> 01:38:34,170
So, real quick, let me just
speak to this for one minute.

2070
01:38:34,170 --> 01:38:36,590
This is.

2071
01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:38,350
I haven't sat down
and counted, but this

2072
01:38:38,350 --> 01:38:41,710
is going to be an
approximately a 20 step

2073
01:38:41,710 --> 01:38:45,430
approval with multiple
actions by the commission.

2074
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:48,670
Annexation today
or zoning change

2075
01:38:48,670 --> 01:38:51,940
does not initiate
this project at all.

2076
01:38:51,940 --> 01:38:56,380
So this is a start
process, and I

2077
01:38:56,380 --> 01:38:59,460
want to be clear, if this
comes down to a deal that

2078
01:38:59,460 --> 01:39:00,880
is not good for this community.

2079
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,100
I personally will
not recommend this.

2080
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:06,180
The benefits in my mind
it's not just a little bit

2081
01:39:06,180 --> 01:39:08,340
they have to weigh
out and there has

2082
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:10,340
to be benefits for everybody.

2083
01:39:10,340 --> 01:39:16,420
And, I think what we've seen,
at least in class a projects

2084
01:39:16,420 --> 01:39:19,020
in other communities,
there truly are benefits

2085
01:39:19,020 --> 01:39:20,540
for the entire community.

2086
01:39:20,540 --> 01:39:23,900
And that's what I'm looking
for in this is something that

2087
01:39:23,900 --> 01:39:26,980
benefits everybody, not
just the select few,

2088
01:39:26,980 --> 01:39:30,480
but has tangible benefits
for all of Emporia,

2089
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,200
because we actually could
ask for them and see what.

2090
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:38,820
And that is my and see if I
have some non-negotiables.

2091
01:39:38,820 --> 01:39:40,200
Folks are absolutely right.

2092
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,660
They don't need to pay
for any of the water

2093
01:39:41,660 --> 01:39:43,020
costs involved in that.

2094
01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:45,320
This needs to be paid
by the developer.

2095
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,050
Now I want to say we have
excess capacity water

2096
01:39:49,050 --> 01:39:51,470
and we lost our industries
and we've lost our industries.

2097
01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:53,510
And so they're
basically it's a loss.

2098
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:55,610
And we don't have
the other point that

2099
01:39:55,610 --> 01:39:57,670
has came up several
times in Emporia,

2100
01:39:57,670 --> 01:39:59,370
we do not use groundwater.

2101
01:39:59,370 --> 01:40:01,490
We use surface
water that recharges

2102
01:40:01,490 --> 01:40:02,910
naturally from the rain.

2103
01:40:02,910 --> 01:40:04,530
We have about two
years of it in storage

2104
01:40:04,530 --> 01:40:08,050
right now at council
Grove reservoir.

2105
01:40:08,050 --> 01:40:12,450
So we can do some long
term forecasting with that.

2106
01:40:12,450 --> 01:40:13,990
We pay big bucks,
we pay big bucks,

2107
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:17,810
and we doubled our water rights
at council Grove two years ago.

2108
01:40:17,810 --> 01:40:23,990
So people have mentioned 2011,
2012 when we did have shortage.

2109
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:26,330
That was before we
doubled our rights.

2110
01:40:26,330 --> 01:40:28,170
So we work closely with
the state of Kansas

2111
01:40:28,170 --> 01:40:32,570
to double our rights on what we
have in council Grove reservoir.

2112
01:40:32,570 --> 01:40:36,530
So this has all been thought of.

2113
01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:41,330
Now, we've identified about
2.5 million gallons a day

2114
01:40:41,330 --> 01:40:45,010
that we have in spare
capacity anything beyond that

2115
01:40:45,010 --> 01:40:48,230
very much do studies.

2116
01:40:48,230 --> 01:40:51,370
And, we've had engineers
engaged to this point.

2117
01:40:51,370 --> 01:40:53,770
The other thing I want
to cover real quick

2118
01:40:53,770 --> 01:40:57,770
is why hasn't this
been discussed sooner.

2119
01:40:57,770 --> 01:41:01,770
Well, just about a month ago,
the land auctions were all done.

2120
01:41:01,770 --> 01:41:05,790
You can't discuss as if
they can't get the land.

2121
01:41:05,790 --> 01:41:09,610
The project doesn't happen and
they just got the land done.

2122
01:41:09,610 --> 01:41:11,410
So now they can start
to move it forward

2123
01:41:11,410 --> 01:41:12,890
to the public discussion.

2124
01:41:12,890 --> 01:41:16,930
And this is going to be a long
six month plus public discussion

2125
01:41:16,930 --> 01:41:17,910
standpoint.

2126
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:20,650
The zoning is by far
not the end of this.

2127
01:41:20,650 --> 01:41:21,710
I have one more question.

2128
01:41:21,710 --> 01:41:24,270
Sure this is not a city project.

2129
01:41:24,270 --> 01:41:25,410
Correct Correct.

2130
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:28,910
And we have not been talking
about this for eight months.

2131
01:41:28,910 --> 01:41:32,530
I've only been on the commission
for I mean, since it's not even

2132
01:41:32,530 --> 01:41:36,930
6 yet, the developer has
developer has been talking

2133
01:41:36,930 --> 01:41:41,050
to city staff about this for
a while, talking to RDA folks,

2134
01:41:41,050 --> 01:41:43,730
just like any prospective
employer does.

2135
01:41:43,730 --> 01:41:46,840
There's a lot of conversations
that go on before anything

2136
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,780
comes to the surface.

2137
01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:51,560
There's a lot of due diligence
that everybody industries

2138
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:52,940
talked for years before.

2139
01:41:52,940 --> 01:41:56,060
They actually and sometimes this
is not unusual and not unusual.

2140
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,080
Lots of times you have two or
three years where they're just

2141
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,840
looking their ducks
in a row, and they're

2142
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,480
looking at multiple
communities and can

2143
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:05,740
they even acquire the property.

2144
01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:07,640
And that was one of
the biggest questions

2145
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:11,520
with this was could they even
acquire the property to do this.

2146
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,820
So I think people feel
very emotional about it.

2147
01:42:13,820 --> 01:42:15,300
So I'm trying not to
take it personally,

2148
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:17,440
but it's not anything that.

2149
01:42:17,440 --> 01:42:21,360
Yeah and the other thing I want
to be clear is the points that

2150
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,200
were raised over and over
again are points that we

2151
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,240
have carefully considered.

2152
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,300
They were not listening,
but we have I mean,

2153
01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:31,680
we have been listening,
I have absorbed what has

2154
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,940
happened in other communities.

2155
01:42:32,940 --> 01:42:35,920
I've seen more other
communities have got this wrong.

2156
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:41,960
And I think we are trying to
take steps to do this right.

2157
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:46,590
And to bring I want to
hit on this point again.

2158
01:42:46,590 --> 01:42:49,230
This project should
bring tangible benefits

2159
01:42:49,230 --> 01:42:52,590
to everybody in Emporia.

2160
01:42:52,590 --> 01:42:54,510
This should drastically
lower our property

2161
01:42:54,510 --> 01:42:57,110
taxes if done right.

2162
01:42:57,110 --> 01:43:01,310
This should keep us from having
to take huge rate increases

2163
01:43:01,310 --> 01:43:02,770
to do this water plant.

2164
01:43:02,770 --> 01:43:04,190
If done right.

2165
01:43:04,190 --> 01:43:07,710
So there are so many things
that this potentially can

2166
01:43:07,710 --> 01:43:09,530
help with if we do it right.

2167
01:43:09,530 --> 01:43:12,270
If we do it wrong, folks
are absolutely right.

2168
01:43:12,270 --> 01:43:16,910
But if we do this right,
and that is my goal in this,

2169
01:43:16,910 --> 01:43:21,310
is to do this right in
a manner that protects

2170
01:43:21,310 --> 01:43:24,910
Emporia today, tomorrow.

2171
01:43:24,910 --> 01:43:27,070
And people are writing
50 years from now.

2172
01:43:27,070 --> 01:43:28,590
And we've asked you
a lot of questions

2173
01:43:28,590 --> 01:43:30,810
and you've given us a lot
of positive good answers.

2174
01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:34,190
And I have and staff has
been in several meetings

2175
01:43:34,190 --> 01:43:38,490
where I've had where I've
been pretty forceful myself.

2176
01:43:38,490 --> 01:43:43,420
This has not been one
of these where I just.

2177
01:43:43,420 --> 01:43:44,460
Oh, yeah.

2178
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:46,000
I pushed back on you hard.

2179
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,860
I would say I have been very.

2180
01:43:47,860 --> 01:43:50,000
Would you agree that I'd
push back hard on him.

2181
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,800
Hard but again, baby steps in
our poor planning and zoning.

2182
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,740
They can listen to everybody
because we want everybody

2183
01:43:55,740 --> 01:43:57,860
to show up, but they
are literally only

2184
01:43:57,860 --> 01:43:59,540
looking at an overlay.

2185
01:43:59,540 --> 01:44:02,220
And it's one of many,
many, many steps.

2186
01:44:02,220 --> 01:44:04,860
So the public will be informed
of every step of the way

2187
01:44:04,860 --> 01:44:06,240
because it has to be public.

2188
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,980
So questions you'll
have to see what

2189
01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:13,920
it was more than happy to
come sit down with you.

2190
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:18,260
Sorry our policies.

2191
01:44:18,260 --> 01:44:22,620
Any other before we get rolling.

2192
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:24,180
Are you ready.

2193
01:44:24,180 --> 01:44:25,240
Can I do the first one.

2194
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:29,420
Sure I would like to make a
motion that we approve ordinance

2195
01:44:29,420 --> 01:44:34,740
number 2616, annexing lands
located at 647 West highway

2196
01:44:34,740 --> 01:44:41,370
50 pursuant to KSA 12 520.

2197
01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:48,010
Based on a request for
voluntary annexation.

2198
01:44:48,010 --> 01:44:53,030
Second, I've had a motion
to approve ordinance 2616,

2199
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:55,910
and it's at 647 West 550.

2200
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:57,450
Any other discussion.

2201
01:44:57,450 --> 01:44:59,050
Motion say Aye.

2202
01:44:59,050 --> 01:45:00,330
Motion passes.

2203
01:45:00,330 --> 01:45:03,450
What's the next one.

2204
01:45:03,450 --> 01:45:08,870
Kurt no, I'm just asking if you
would like to do the second one.

2205
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:12,290
Motion let's do it over here.

2206
01:45:12,290 --> 01:45:18,370
OK I'd like to make a motion
to pass ordinance number 26,

2207
01:45:18,370 --> 01:45:26,170
annexing land located at 640
road 180 pursuant to KSA 12 520,

2208
01:45:26,170 --> 01:45:33,330
as pursuant to Justin's
request, not mine.

2209
01:45:33,330 --> 01:45:34,530
The owner's request.

2210
01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:36,110
Request second.

2211
01:45:36,110 --> 01:45:40,750
I have a motion and a second
for ordinance 26 and 641 80.

2212
01:45:40,750 --> 01:45:42,250
Any other discussion.

2213
01:45:42,250 --> 01:45:43,490
All in favor, say Aye.

2214
01:45:43,490 --> 01:45:49,010
Aye anybody else want
to do the next one.

2215
01:45:49,010 --> 01:45:50,310
I'll do the next part.

2216
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:54,430
OK I'll make a motion to
approve ordinance number 26,

2217
01:45:54,430 --> 01:45:56,450
annexing the lands
located at 1,800

2218
01:45:56,450 --> 01:46:01,690
row f pursuant to KSA 12 520.

2219
01:46:01,690 --> 01:46:06,710
Is there a motion and a
second for ordinance 26.

2220
01:46:06,710 --> 01:46:08,590
Annexing lands at 1,800 road f.

2221
01:46:08,590 --> 01:46:11,530
Any other discussion.

2222
01:46:11,530 --> 01:46:12,890
All right.

2223
01:46:12,890 --> 01:46:17,370
I'll make a motion to approve
ordinance number 26 19,

2224
01:46:17,370 --> 01:46:20,250
annexing lands
located at 1842 road

2225
01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:24,650
f pursuant to KSA 12 5 22nd.

2226
01:46:24,650 --> 01:46:26,970
I have a motion and
second for ordinance 26

2227
01:46:26,970 --> 01:46:29,350
annexing lands at 1842 road f.

2228
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:30,970
Any other discussion.

2229
01:46:30,970 --> 01:46:32,130
All in favor, say Aye.

2230
01:46:32,130 --> 01:46:33,810
Aye Motion passes.

2231
01:46:33,810 --> 01:46:37,720
I'll make a motion to
approve ordinance number 26,

2232
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,940
annexing lands located
at 600 road 190.

2233
01:46:40,940 --> 01:46:44,800
Pursuant to KSA 12 520.

2234
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,900
Second Motion and
second for ordinance 26.

2235
01:46:47,900 --> 01:46:51,500
Annexing lands located
at 600 road 190.

2236
01:46:51,500 --> 01:46:52,840
Any other discussion.

2237
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:54,660
Just that they all still touch.

2238
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:55,620
They all still touch.

2239
01:46:55,620 --> 01:46:56,620
City of Emporia.

2240
01:46:56,620 --> 01:46:57,600
We're growing.

2241
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:58,840
We're annexing.

2242
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,480
Everybody wants us to grow.

2243
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:01,680
All in favor, say Aye.

2244
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,220
Aye Motion passes.

2245
01:47:03,220 --> 01:47:03,740
Thank you.

2246
01:47:03,740 --> 01:47:05,560
Thank you.

2247
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,080
Thank you for speaking, Becky.

2248
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,560
Thank you.

2249
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:11,600
For interpreting.

2250
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:18,620
Interpreting thank
you Yes All right,

2251
01:47:18,620 --> 01:47:21,560
commissioners, I would draw
your notice to a public notice

2252
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,900
that we put out
last week, June 10.

2253
01:47:23,900 --> 01:47:25,120
We do have a city
commission launch

2254
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,680
with the friends of the zoo
that is open to the public.

2255
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,280
So they show what
are the greatest

2256
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:36,090
steps in the room with all the
snakes and spiders and snakes.

2257
01:47:36,090 --> 01:47:40,950
So that's next week.

2258
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:43,350
Then we have seven items
on the consent agenda.

2259
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:45,590
Commission meeting
minutes from last time.

2260
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:47,230
Three month extension
with Emporia chamber

2261
01:47:47,230 --> 01:47:49,150
of Commerce for
visitor services.

2262
01:47:49,150 --> 01:47:54,270
And then we have five voluntary
annexation agreements.

2263
01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:56,970
Annexation agreement
number three.

2264
01:47:56,970 --> 01:48:02,270
One would be a
$1,368 annual refund.

2265
01:48:02,270 --> 01:48:05,510
On number 2, it would be $714.

2266
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:13,870
On number 3, it would be $140
on number 4, it would be $1,751.

2267
01:48:13,870 --> 01:48:18,150
And then the last one,
I believe, is $334.

2268
01:48:18,150 --> 01:48:20,610
That's what that on an annual
basis with those annexation.

2269
01:48:20,610 --> 01:48:21,910
Thank you.

2270
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:23,810
Make a motion to
approve the agenda.

2271
01:48:23,810 --> 01:48:27,570
Second, the motion seconded
to approve the consent agenda.

2272
01:48:27,570 --> 01:48:29,070
Any other discussion.

2273
01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:30,110
All in favor, say Aye.

2274
01:48:30,110 --> 01:48:32,260
Aye all right.

2275
01:48:32,260 --> 01:48:38,140
And for informational
items, we do like normal.

2276
01:48:38,140 --> 01:48:40,900
But I do want to talk
about we are going

2277
01:48:40,900 --> 01:48:45,500
to be adopting or having you
guys look at a large volume

2278
01:48:45,500 --> 01:48:47,120
water user policy.

2279
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:48,860
These are really
safeguards that staff

2280
01:48:48,860 --> 01:48:51,380
thinks need to be in place.

2281
01:48:51,380 --> 01:48:53,080
Not even just people coming in.

2282
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:53,780
Not people.

2283
01:48:53,780 --> 01:48:57,700
Yes, we do want to make sure
that we have a policy where you

2284
01:48:57,700 --> 01:49:00,740
can't take as much water
as just turn on your spigot

2285
01:49:00,740 --> 01:49:03,300
if you're a large volume user.

2286
01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:05,940
If it's going to impact
our service delivery,

2287
01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:08,347
we absolutely need to
have that policy in place.

2288
01:49:08,347 --> 01:49:10,180
And that's what we're going
to put in front of you guys

2289
01:49:10,180 --> 01:49:12,360
and making sure that
they pay those costs.

2290
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,460
Well, and I commend city staff
because a lot of our policies

2291
01:49:15,460 --> 01:49:17,900
haven't been looked
at to reach technology

2292
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:19,040
in the changing world.

2293
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,420
And the other point, several
of the discussions I've had,

2294
01:49:23,420 --> 01:49:25,420
and we'll talk more
in detail, but we

2295
01:49:25,420 --> 01:49:27,420
are going to ask a
substantial portion of that

2296
01:49:27,420 --> 01:49:29,140
be paid up front.

2297
01:49:29,140 --> 01:49:31,800
So if they do leave your
leave after five years,

2298
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,240
we're not left holding the bag.

2299
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,460
So all industries all have.

2300
01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:36,440
Yes everything.

2301
01:49:36,440 --> 01:49:40,620
Yes can do when you're
going to have that.

2302
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:41,980
The draft wording.

2303
01:49:41,980 --> 01:49:43,460
We'll get that out
as soon as we'll

2304
01:49:43,460 --> 01:49:44,880
get that out and get it posted.

2305
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,740
We may try to get it out
maybe early next week

2306
01:49:46,740 --> 01:49:50,820
and post it with the bio
information if we can.

2307
01:49:50,820 --> 01:49:51,740
Oh OK.

2308
01:49:51,740 --> 01:49:52,860
Oh you're out of.

2309
01:49:52,860 --> 01:49:55,080
So we'll get it done
hopefully two weeks.

2310
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:58,940
We were looking at the next
meeting for discussion.

2311
01:49:58,940 --> 01:50:01,480
Yeah so we will try to
get that draft out there.

2312
01:50:01,480 --> 01:50:02,580
I mean, if you're
gone we'll have

2313
01:50:02,580 --> 01:50:04,180
it locked down by Friday, so.

2314
01:50:04,180 --> 01:50:06,980
All right.

2315
01:50:06,980 --> 01:50:10,940
Governing body comments
I'm going to start.

2316
01:50:10,940 --> 01:50:12,180
I think we proved
today that people

2317
01:50:12,180 --> 01:50:14,080
can make an o'clock AM meeting.

2318
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,260
Yes so that should be going.

2319
01:50:17,260 --> 01:50:19,400
And I want to thank
everybody who spoke.

2320
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:20,833
It takes a lot to stand up here.

2321
01:50:20,833 --> 01:50:21,400
What's your name.

2322
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:22,520
Put your address down in.

2323
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,860
The five of us know you're live.

2324
01:50:25,860 --> 01:50:28,450
My voice would have shaken
more than four months.

2325
01:50:28,450 --> 01:50:33,330
So I want to thank everybody
that was brave enough to stand

2326
01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:34,590
up here and speak their mind.

2327
01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:39,990
And thank you to city staff and
emergency services for unbound.

2328
01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:42,970
Chief, can you give us
a quick did it go OK.

2329
01:50:42,970 --> 01:50:47,490
Kind of great little
hiccups with the southbound.

2330
01:50:47,490 --> 01:50:50,470
I heard that they took a little
extra detour the first time.

2331
01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:52,350
They say it's good for them.

2332
01:50:52,350 --> 01:50:54,230
Throw them under the bus
because they do a great job.

2333
01:50:54,230 --> 01:50:56,490
But give them a little
taste of this road

2334
01:50:56,490 --> 01:50:57,390
before they hit the ground.

2335
01:50:57,390 --> 01:50:58,030
Quick thinking.

2336
01:50:58,030 --> 01:51:00,850
They had to do probably an extra
mile and a half on that one.

2337
01:51:00,850 --> 01:51:01,350
They can.

2338
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:02,850
They can handle it.

2339
01:51:02,850 --> 01:51:03,830
Was that everybody.

2340
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:09,850
All of the first 358.

2341
01:51:09,850 --> 01:51:11,630
So not going to bother them.

2342
01:51:11,630 --> 01:51:14,110
Yeah so what.

2343
01:51:14,110 --> 01:51:17,170
Half or 2/3 or a third
of them didn't finish.

2344
01:51:17,170 --> 01:51:19,430
Yeah Welcome to Kansas.

2345
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:22,530
Yeah Welcome to the mud.

2346
01:51:22,530 --> 01:51:23,190
All right.

2347
01:51:23,190 --> 01:51:24,270
Kurt, do you have anything.

2348
01:51:24,270 --> 01:51:25,880
Yeah I'd like to thank
everybody that came

2349
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,700
today and voiced your opinions.

2350
01:51:27,700 --> 01:51:29,180
We do listen to you.

2351
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:31,300
A lot of the things that
we've written down here,

2352
01:51:31,300 --> 01:51:34,340
I know we've already
visited about ourselves.

2353
01:51:34,340 --> 01:51:36,180
We will be revisiting
those things.

2354
01:51:36,180 --> 01:51:39,880
We do appreciate what you bring
to us, and we consider those.

2355
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,240
And we do.

2356
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:45,720
Thank you for being
here Mr. Duncan.

2357
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,880
I'll echo that.

2358
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:47,460
Will share.

2359
01:51:47,460 --> 01:51:51,360
I did take a lot of notes
from everyone who spoke.

2360
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,540
It is important to
listen to the citizens.

2361
01:51:53,540 --> 01:51:56,680
And I hope if people
continue to have concerns

2362
01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,660
or even if they find answers
or something like that,

2363
01:52:00,660 --> 01:52:02,980
I hope people are willing
to come and share that.

2364
01:52:02,980 --> 01:52:05,400
At the planning
commission meeting

2365
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,680
on June 23 at o'clock
PM at Civic Auditorium

2366
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:11,400
auditorium upstairs.

2367
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,720
Upstairs And I will echo,
I would love to see you

2368
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,600
all in two weeks at 11 o'clock.

2369
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,440
You're right.

2370
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:21,020
OK well, not to sound
like a copycat, but yes,

2371
01:52:21,020 --> 01:52:24,150
I do appreciate everyone
coming and showing up today.

2372
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:24,690
It is.

2373
01:52:24,690 --> 01:52:26,870
It is appreciated.

2374
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:32,470
I also want to say thank you
to city staff and so many

2375
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:36,030
volunteers for the bike race.

2376
01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:42,990
It takes a lot and it went very
well, except for mother nature.

2377
01:52:42,990 --> 01:52:45,050
I was wondering,
does anyone know.

2378
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:49,030
Were there any
injuries this year.

2379
01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:52,990
We had a couple of elite riders,
but they basically had a hole

2380
01:52:52,990 --> 01:52:54,570
in their knee and gave it up.

2381
01:52:54,570 --> 01:52:56,450
But they met each
other in the ER.

2382
01:52:56,450 --> 01:52:58,570
I know I'm acquainted
with one of them,

2383
01:52:58,570 --> 01:53:01,690
and so I don't think there
were any major injuries.

2384
01:53:01,690 --> 01:53:02,950
Fairly normal.

2385
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:03,890
Really normal actually.

2386
01:53:03,890 --> 01:53:05,030
Blow count downtown.

2387
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:06,970
OK, good.

2388
01:53:06,970 --> 01:53:07,930
Wash off the mud.

2389
01:53:07,930 --> 01:53:08,830
You'll be fine.

2390
01:53:08,830 --> 01:53:10,610
There are no lightning issues.

2391
01:53:10,610 --> 01:53:12,110
No lightning strikes.

2392
01:53:12,110 --> 01:53:15,810
Well, good, because there was a
lot of lightning out there this.

2393
01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:20,590


2394
01:53:20,590 --> 01:53:26,070
I really appreciate
everyone's speaking today.

2395
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:28,790
We've had a lot of
the same questions

2396
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:32,310
that you had along this
process, and it is a process.

2397
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:35,390
So businesses do
this all the time

2398
01:53:35,390 --> 01:53:40,670
in cities throughout the nation
and then it comes public.

2399
01:53:40,670 --> 01:53:42,050
So this is part of the process.

2400
01:53:42,050 --> 01:53:44,070
It became public on Tuesday.

2401
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:47,590
And people have the same
questions that we have had.

2402
01:53:47,590 --> 01:53:49,730
And we've gotten
some of the answers.

2403
01:53:49,730 --> 01:53:51,190
We have not gotten them all.

2404
01:53:51,190 --> 01:53:53,070
We definitely need
to get them all.

2405
01:53:53,070 --> 01:53:56,070
And they all have to be
rock solid for Victorians

2406
01:53:56,070 --> 01:54:00,090
now and in the future before
this project moves forward.

2407
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:04,550
We know that we look very
forward to getting the answers

2408
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:07,990
and getting them to you, because
I completely understand where

2409
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:09,550
each of you are coming from.

2410
01:54:09,550 --> 01:54:13,550
You heard about it on
Tuesday today is Wednesday.

2411
01:54:13,550 --> 01:54:17,550
Whatever facts people
have heard or opinions.

2412
01:54:17,550 --> 01:54:20,820
We want to make sure that it's
all rock solid before anything

2413
01:54:20,820 --> 01:54:21,940
moves forward.

2414
01:54:21,940 --> 01:54:25,580
And we look forward
to meeting with you.

2415
01:54:25,580 --> 01:54:28,200
All right.

2416
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:35,900
We're going to recess to the
conference room 10 after.

2417
01:54:35,900 --> 01:54:38,300
Oh, yes.

2418
01:54:38,300 --> 01:54:43,580
That's about 25
minutes to 10 after.

2419
01:54:43,580 --> 01:54:46,160
Can we do just
people wait on us.

2420
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,340
We've got to make a motion to
recess to the conference room

2421
01:54:49,340 --> 01:54:53,100
for study session until 12:15.

2422
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:54,660
Thank you.

2423
01:54:54,660 --> 01:54:58,060
One 5115 115.

2424
01:54:58,060 --> 01:55:01,420
115 any other discussion.

2425
01:55:01,420 --> 01:55:05,160
All in favor, say I. I will.

2426
01:55:05,160 --> 02:20:45,930


2427
02:20:45,930 --> 02:20:46,590
All right.

2428
02:20:46,590 --> 02:20:51,650
We will bring the
study session to order.

2429
02:20:51,650 --> 02:20:55,410
Thank you for everybody in the
audience who had to wait on us.

2430
02:20:55,410 --> 02:20:59,270
OK finding my agenda.

2431
02:20:59,270 --> 02:21:00,070
I'm so sorry.

2432
02:21:00,070 --> 02:21:02,890


2433
02:21:02,890 --> 02:21:04,030
Outside appropriations.

2434
02:21:04,030 --> 02:21:06,690
Who's doing them.

2435
02:21:06,690 --> 02:21:09,430
Do you want to just do the
process of how we usually do it.

2436
02:21:09,430 --> 02:21:12,270
We'll go through a budget
discussion real quick,

2437
02:21:12,270 --> 02:21:16,410
and then we can go to each item.

2438
02:21:16,410 --> 02:21:18,210
All right.

2439
02:21:18,210 --> 02:21:20,490
So outside
appropriations typically

2440
02:21:20,490 --> 02:21:23,450
come from one of four funds.

2441
02:21:23,450 --> 02:21:25,130
Transient guest
tax, which supports

2442
02:21:25,130 --> 02:21:28,060
tourism destination marketing.

2443
02:21:28,060 --> 02:21:30,380
Visitor related
tourism enhancements.

2444
02:21:30,380 --> 02:21:34,200
This is from a tax that's
levied on folks who stay

2445
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:36,280
at the hotels in our community.

2446
02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:38,680
Special alcohol fund
this is a tax that is

2447
02:21:38,680 --> 02:21:41,360
levied on the sale of alcohol.

2448
02:21:41,360 --> 02:21:43,100
It is a state set fund.

2449
02:21:43,100 --> 02:21:44,900
We can't our state set tax.

2450
02:21:44,900 --> 02:21:46,200
We can't change it.

2451
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:47,560
A third of the
alcohol money goes

2452
02:21:47,560 --> 02:21:49,160
to the special alcohol fund.

2453
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:51,300
A third goes to the special
parks and recreation fund,

2454
02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:52,920
and a third goes to
the general fund.

2455
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:56,840
By state statute, special
parks and recreation

2456
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:59,100
has to be spent on
Park improvements,

2457
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:01,200
recreation facility and
community programming

2458
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:03,160
initiatives for our parks.

2459
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:07,000
And then economic
development sales tax fund.

2460
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:11,320
That is about $925,000
of the city's half

2461
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:16,160
cent sales tax goes to that.

2462
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:19,200
So I want to talk about
the next big item.

2463
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:19,820
This year.

2464
02:22:19,820 --> 02:22:23,520
We have received more funds
requests that do not fit

2465
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:25,060
in one of those four buckets.

2466
02:22:25,060 --> 02:22:31,040
It, and the city has
traditionally looked very.

2467
02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:34,600
We have not funded those
before because that's

2468
02:22:34,600 --> 02:22:37,200
truly property tax
dollars that pay

2469
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:38,700
for that under Kansas statute.

2470
02:22:38,700 --> 02:22:43,720
Last dollar in last dollar out
of the budget is property taxes.

2471
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:45,880
And then it is truly
competing with things

2472
02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:47,940
such as public safety,
our facilities,

2473
02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:52,100
parks our solid waste
collectors, people.

2474
02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:52,820
Yeah, people.

2475
02:22:52,820 --> 02:22:57,380
So we are always cautious.

2476
02:22:57,380 --> 02:23:01,580
So give that word of caution,
and I think at the end,

2477
02:23:01,580 --> 02:23:02,980
we just want to have
a little discussion.

2478
02:23:02,980 --> 02:23:05,920
Should we even take general
fund but doesn't fit

2479
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:07,800
in one of those four buckets.

2480
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:11,600
Do we take those requests.

2481
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:12,260
I didn't pass.

2482
02:23:12,260 --> 02:23:15,760
We have moved like the Municipal
Band used to be in something

2483
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:17,140
and we're like, they're a park.

2484
02:23:17,140 --> 02:23:18,020
So yeah.

2485
02:23:18,020 --> 02:23:20,240
So it says we can pay
for park programming

2486
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:21,140
with that special park.

2487
02:23:21,140 --> 02:23:22,790
So are there some
of these that you're

2488
02:23:22,790 --> 02:23:24,390
saying that we're going
to talk about today that

2489
02:23:24,390 --> 02:23:25,690
don't fit in any of this talk.

2490
02:23:25,690 --> 02:23:26,590
Are you going to.

2491
02:23:26,590 --> 02:23:27,390
Well, yeah.

2492
02:23:27,390 --> 02:23:28,370
Yeah, we'll identify that.

2493
02:23:28,370 --> 02:23:30,190
Yeah OK.

2494
02:23:30,190 --> 02:23:32,270
The other thing that's not
in this budget this year

2495
02:23:32,270 --> 02:23:33,650
is visit Emporia.

2496
02:23:33,650 --> 02:23:37,650
Emporia, Main Street, RDA and
Emporia chamber funded funding.

2497
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:40,270
Not that we fund the
chamber directly.

2498
02:23:40,270 --> 02:23:44,150
Those dollars have been put
forward to administration

2499
02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:48,450
for tourism and visits
for small business,

2500
02:23:48,450 --> 02:23:49,950
for economic development.

2501
02:23:49,950 --> 02:23:52,950
So those numbers
have been set aside.

2502
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:56,950
But until the fire conversation
goes one way or another.

2503
02:23:56,950 --> 02:23:58,230
So either we will
need to come back

2504
02:23:58,230 --> 02:24:00,710
to you guys with a
formal funding request

2505
02:24:00,710 --> 02:24:04,190
and/or funding request for each
of those individuals, which we

2506
02:24:04,190 --> 02:24:07,430
could do, because really,
time wise, I'm not sure

2507
02:24:07,430 --> 02:24:09,110
we'd be there in the next year.

2508
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:10,570
Well, we have it set.

2509
02:24:10,570 --> 02:24:12,050
I mean, we have the money saved.

2510
02:24:12,050 --> 02:24:13,870
So really, we have a line item.

2511
02:24:13,870 --> 02:24:15,030
Yes line item for it.

2512
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:15,530
Thank you.

2513
02:24:15,530 --> 02:24:16,830
Because those.

2514
02:24:16,830 --> 02:24:17,730
Yeah we're not.

2515
02:24:17,730 --> 02:24:19,370
Yeah there's a line item for it.

2516
02:24:19,370 --> 02:24:22,540
We're just not budgeting it
to go to those organizations

2517
02:24:22,540 --> 02:24:23,940
at this point in time.

2518
02:24:23,940 --> 02:24:25,380
So we're not giving
them any money

2519
02:24:25,380 --> 02:24:27,900
unless we vote on it like we
just did with visit Emporia.

2520
02:24:27,900 --> 02:24:31,280
Correct so that's so just what
we've done with visit Emporia.

2521
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:32,480
That money is pulled aside.

2522
02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:33,400
It exists.

2523
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:34,460
It is there.

2524
02:24:34,460 --> 02:24:37,820
But then if we've decided,
let's do it because it's

2525
02:24:37,820 --> 02:24:39,180
going to take forever to.

2526
02:24:39,180 --> 02:24:42,580
So if we get hey, we're still
another year out on via then

2527
02:24:42,580 --> 02:24:44,540
we can appropriate that money.

2528
02:24:44,540 --> 02:24:48,640
We do want to point out.

2529
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:51,440
Fund balances I will
say general fund.

2530
02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:54,420
That number is still
a work in progress.

2531
02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:57,300
But, see what our
reserve level is.

2532
02:24:57,300 --> 02:25:00,740
In general fund
transient guest tax

2533
02:25:00,740 --> 02:25:04,460
funding, what the
ending balance is

2534
02:25:04,460 --> 02:25:06,140
and what the target reserve is.

2535
02:25:06,140 --> 02:25:07,160
Special alcohol fund.

2536
02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:10,940
We have not traditionally held
a reserve requirement there.

2537
02:25:10,940 --> 02:25:12,620
Special parks we have not there.

2538
02:25:12,620 --> 02:25:14,080
And then economic development.

2539
02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:18,440
We have not kept a reserve
fund with that either.

2540
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:23,530
But you can see what's
available funding each of those.

2541
02:25:23,530 --> 02:25:26,290
Where did we come up
with the reserve amounts.

2542
02:25:26,290 --> 02:25:28,010
That's just what we
previous commissions

2543
02:25:28,010 --> 02:25:30,090
have agreed to agreed to.

2544
02:25:30,090 --> 02:25:31,710
So we can always
adjust percentages.

2545
02:25:31,710 --> 02:25:34,250
We always talk about
20% because some of us

2546
02:25:34,250 --> 02:25:38,330
have lived through COVID and TGT
funds don't exist during COVID.

2547
02:25:38,330 --> 02:25:39,650
So we were very
much like, if we've

2548
02:25:39,650 --> 02:25:42,970
got to have reserves for maybe
six months to eight months.

2549
02:25:42,970 --> 02:25:45,150
If something somebody did
the math and came out with,

2550
02:25:45,150 --> 02:25:48,390
OK, it's 19.2% or
something like that.

2551
02:25:48,390 --> 02:25:52,550
So I did not do the math.

2552
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:55,290
So before you guys or
the transient guest

2553
02:25:55,290 --> 02:25:59,110
tax appropriations, you have
what is and Lucas is not here.

2554
02:25:59,110 --> 02:26:02,210
Is anybody here with tgt?

2555
02:26:02,210 --> 02:26:03,890
Christina Christina.

2556
02:26:03,890 --> 02:26:07,010
Christina is a staff liaison.

2557
02:26:07,010 --> 02:26:07,550
Come on down.

2558
02:26:07,550 --> 02:26:08,390
Matt's back there.

2559
02:26:08,390 --> 02:26:10,350
Matt and Christina, if
you guys want to come up,

2560
02:26:10,350 --> 02:26:14,330
since you guys
kind of staff that.

2561
02:26:14,330 --> 02:26:16,030
But you see what they requested.

2562
02:26:16,030 --> 02:26:17,870
You see what was recommended.

2563
02:26:17,870 --> 02:26:22,530
Mended and then
Taylor has the ability

2564
02:26:22,530 --> 02:26:28,810
we're looking at what I call a
green, yellow, red system today.

2565
02:26:28,810 --> 02:26:31,970
If everybody's good with the
request, we mark that as green.

2566
02:26:31,970 --> 02:26:35,410
If everybody says, hey, we
want to come back and talk

2567
02:26:35,410 --> 02:26:36,670
about it more at
a future meeting,

2568
02:26:36,670 --> 02:26:38,290
we will turn that one yellow.

2569
02:26:38,290 --> 02:26:40,670
And then if it's red and
we don't want to find that,

2570
02:26:40,670 --> 02:26:41,470
then we will.

2571
02:26:41,470 --> 02:26:43,470
Although those aren't
red because of that.

2572
02:26:43,470 --> 02:26:46,250
But those are just red because
their recommendation is

2573
02:26:46,250 --> 02:26:47,550
different from their request.

2574
02:26:47,550 --> 02:26:51,810
Yeah OK.

2575
02:26:51,810 --> 02:26:52,530
You ready.

2576
02:26:52,530 --> 02:26:56,530
Is there anything else before
we dive into this list.

2577
02:26:56,530 --> 02:26:57,650
Are you going to
tell us the ones

2578
02:26:57,650 --> 02:27:00,110
that don't fit in any
category, or is that later.

2579
02:27:00,110 --> 02:27:00,630
That's later.

2580
02:27:00,630 --> 02:27:01,130
That's later.

2581
02:27:01,130 --> 02:27:01,877
That's not in this.

2582
02:27:01,877 --> 02:27:02,510
That's not in this.

2583
02:27:02,510 --> 02:27:05,730
This will fit in
the transient minus

2584
02:27:05,730 --> 02:27:08,570
the carrack request, which
I think they felt that.

2585
02:27:08,570 --> 02:27:10,690
And did they feel that
did not fit within

2586
02:27:10,690 --> 02:27:14,170
does not meet requirement, which
is why it's recommended to 0.

2587
02:27:14,170 --> 02:27:16,920
Yes OK.

2588
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:18,320
You ready to talk.

2589
02:27:18,320 --> 02:27:18,820
And then.

2590
02:27:18,820 --> 02:27:19,320
Green light.

2591
02:27:19,320 --> 02:27:20,920
Yellow light or red light.

2592
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:22,000
Is that where we're at.

2593
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,840
Yeah I mean, you guys are more
than welcome to ask questions.

2594
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:27,180
We can run through
all the slides,

2595
02:27:27,180 --> 02:27:29,600
or we can just tackle
this while we're here.

2596
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:31,280
I'd like to start at the bottom.

2597
02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:35,280
Yeah let's start numerically.

2598
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:36,640
I'm OK.

2599
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:38,300
Excuse me, with William
Allen White House.

2600
02:27:38,300 --> 02:27:41,880
I had their numbers done.

2601
02:27:41,880 --> 02:27:43,720
They have to raise
their own money.

2602
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:47,240
So is anybody else
against the Red Rocks.

2603
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:48,560
Green green.

2604
02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:50,880
Green teachers Hall of Fame.

2605
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:51,700
Green, green.

2606
02:27:51,700 --> 02:27:54,500
I mean, they're literally
using it for their hotel bill.

2607
02:27:54,500 --> 02:27:56,740
So, by golly, we're going
to get our money back.

2608
02:27:56,740 --> 02:28:02,260
OK, first Friday keep
up the awesome work.

2609
02:28:02,260 --> 02:28:03,820
I think it's a good program.

2610
02:28:03,820 --> 02:28:06,520
We see a lot of people
down there on Friday.

2611
02:28:06,520 --> 02:28:12,680
Friday green discovered gravel.

2612
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:17,310
And what was the recommendation
21 just because instead of 30

2613
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:20,830
just to request your request.

2614
02:28:20,830 --> 02:28:23,930
So Bobby actually requested
on this one $21,000 this year.

2615
02:28:23,930 --> 02:28:27,010
It's a self reduction from the
30,000 he received last year.

2616
02:28:27,010 --> 02:28:29,550
Part of that was, equipment
investments last year

2617
02:28:29,550 --> 02:28:32,010
and those type of things that
are not reoccurring costs.

2618
02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:35,870
So I mean it's growing
and he's got hotel stay.

2619
02:28:35,870 --> 02:28:38,390
It's all good with that.

2620
02:28:38,390 --> 02:28:42,910
Great I'm going to
need at least dynamic

2621
02:28:42,910 --> 02:28:45,930
to me in a yellow if to discuss.

2622
02:28:45,930 --> 02:28:47,770
Maybe later after we get
through everything else.

2623
02:28:47,770 --> 02:28:49,690
Is that OK with everybody.

2624
02:28:49,690 --> 02:28:50,790
Sure I would agree.

2625
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:51,290
Oh, sorry.

2626
02:28:51,290 --> 02:28:53,570
Not dynamic, but we
can discuss that yet.

2627
02:28:53,570 --> 02:28:54,490
Yeah dynamic.

2628
02:28:54,490 --> 02:28:55,170
Just that one.

2629
02:28:55,170 --> 02:28:56,830
Just because they
are it's really

2630
02:28:56,830 --> 02:28:58,170
for their events and stuff.

2631
02:28:58,170 --> 02:29:01,270
So I'm and they didn't
have anything concrete

2632
02:29:01,270 --> 02:29:02,550
on what they'd use it for.

2633
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:05,030
It didn't say in
the application.

2634
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:08,250
Truth back there she can
twirl herself back up here.

2635
02:29:08,250 --> 02:29:09,910
Well, we'll come
back to you, Jackie.

2636
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:12,900
The Historical Society.

2637
02:29:12,900 --> 02:29:14,180
Green green.

2638
02:29:14,180 --> 02:29:16,140
Green green.

2639
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:24,360
Hot so explain why does
that not fit the group.

2640
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:26,600
And I'm speaking to this as
director of visit Emporia.

2641
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:27,280
Not on the member.

2642
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:29,780
But attending the meetings.

2643
02:29:29,780 --> 02:29:31,740
Wanted to see more in
lines of the budget.

2644
02:29:31,740 --> 02:29:33,140
They were having a
hard time understanding

2645
02:29:33,140 --> 02:29:34,860
the budget information
between what

2646
02:29:34,860 --> 02:29:36,160
was in the foundation accounts.

2647
02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:38,220
The way it was presented.

2648
02:29:38,220 --> 02:29:39,620
Is Michael here.

2649
02:29:39,620 --> 02:29:40,320
Yeah OK.

2650
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:43,180
Michael, he can come up
if you guys want later

2651
02:29:43,180 --> 02:29:44,000
and talk through that.

2652
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:44,880
But that was one of them.

2653
02:29:44,880 --> 02:29:48,540
And some questions about
the scholarship funds.

2654
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:51,540
So talk about your
input at yellow now OK.

2655
02:29:51,540 --> 02:29:53,740
On yellow because we
want to talk to him

2656
02:29:53,740 --> 02:29:57,740
the rec commission green green.

2657
02:29:57,740 --> 02:30:00,060
The only thing I will
say what's it for.

2658
02:30:00,060 --> 02:30:00,780
Go ahead.

2659
02:30:00,780 --> 02:30:04,220
I mean I know what it's for,
but can we tell the public.

2660
02:30:04,220 --> 02:30:06,500
Yeah they're doing
those team passes.

2661
02:30:06,500 --> 02:30:07,000
That's right.

2662
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:07,800
It's a great deal.

2663
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:10,220
Yeah I'm wondering
why I mean, I'm

2664
02:30:10,220 --> 02:30:11,820
wondering why it wasn't larger.

2665
02:30:11,820 --> 02:30:16,820
The only thing I will say is
with the ever changing landscape

2666
02:30:16,820 --> 02:30:20,620
of our wonderful high school
Activities Association,

2667
02:30:20,620 --> 02:30:25,700
I would like this request
broken out into each tournament

2668
02:30:25,700 --> 02:30:27,740
that they're planning on doing,
instead of the whole year

2669
02:30:27,740 --> 02:30:31,000
for tournaments that
could be in the fall,

2670
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:34,740
could be in the spring, or
it could be in the winter.

2671
02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:36,320
So is that something
we want, Chris.

2672
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:38,840
Do we need them No,
I'm good with it.

2673
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:39,780
I'm good.

2674
02:30:39,780 --> 02:30:40,800
I'm good with it.

2675
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:41,800
I think it's just the policy.

2676
02:30:41,800 --> 02:30:43,620
OK, so we're going green.

2677
02:30:43,620 --> 02:30:45,480
Just starting process 28.

2678
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:48,400
State basketball champion.

2679
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:49,980
Maybe we'll pick
up more baseball,

2680
02:30:49,980 --> 02:30:53,260
baseball, volleyball, men's
golf, which we have Aaron

2681
02:30:53,260 --> 02:30:56,300
wins golf bag.

2682
02:30:56,300 --> 02:30:58,940
Golf is back next year I think.

2683
02:30:58,940 --> 02:31:02,940
OK Kirk read.

2684
02:31:02,940 --> 02:31:05,740
Yeah they were looking
for just their building.

2685
02:31:05,740 --> 02:31:08,610
They were looking for
parking for their building.

2686
02:31:08,610 --> 02:31:13,450
That's right that
the tangential TGT

2687
02:31:13,450 --> 02:31:16,730
is the fact that it
would be, help people

2688
02:31:16,730 --> 02:31:18,530
who also played at Hammond.

2689
02:31:18,530 --> 02:31:21,050
The problem immediately
came up to me

2690
02:31:21,050 --> 02:31:25,450
is we had an explanation from
you earlier in the year about

2691
02:31:25,450 --> 02:31:28,370
what happened in
Wichita with sidewalks

2692
02:31:28,370 --> 02:31:31,710
and that is where the one
AG's opinion has been,

2693
02:31:31,710 --> 02:31:35,650
is that there was
a request to fund

2694
02:31:35,650 --> 02:31:39,890
ADA sidewalks, doing the ramps.

2695
02:31:39,890 --> 02:31:42,650
And they said that
was not at least

2696
02:31:42,650 --> 02:31:44,490
the attorney general
opined that was not

2697
02:31:44,490 --> 02:31:47,410
a valid use of those dollars.

2698
02:31:47,410 --> 02:31:49,350
And that was in Don
Lew's presentation.

2699
02:31:49,350 --> 02:31:50,610
He highlighted that.

2700
02:31:50,610 --> 02:31:51,950
Yeah, exactly.

2701
02:31:51,950 --> 02:31:52,790
What is there.

2702
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:55,850
Is there another fund that
their request could fall into.

2703
02:31:55,850 --> 02:31:57,550
Maybe I'm not sure.

2704
02:31:57,550 --> 02:32:01,650
So it's above on the
sponsorship request for 40,000.

2705
02:32:01,650 --> 02:32:02,950
So it'll come up again.

2706
02:32:02,950 --> 02:32:03,470
So do we.

2707
02:32:03,470 --> 02:32:04,550
Yeah we have it later.

2708
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:07,080
So just out right now, we
are just now say we green

2709
02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:09,940
light the 0 recommendation
or do we read it.

2710
02:32:09,940 --> 02:32:12,560
It's read now, so why
don't we just make it read.

2711
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:13,400
Yeah OK.

2712
02:32:13,400 --> 02:32:16,500
But we're just talking early
out of TGT at this moment.

2713
02:32:16,500 --> 02:32:17,640
Sure OK.

2714
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:20,220
Arts council green.

2715
02:32:20,220 --> 02:32:25,020
Green is this horrible to say.

2716
02:32:25,020 --> 02:32:26,700
Tell me more about
what theirs was.

2717
02:32:26,700 --> 02:32:27,740
You can call them to the table.

2718
02:32:27,740 --> 02:32:29,400
That's why they're here.

2719
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:30,900
I just don't
remember, I read it.

2720
02:32:30,900 --> 02:32:34,440
Council, come on up.

2721
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:38,600
Well, because you've had more
they've had more Granada events.

2722
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:39,640
Because it's both.

2723
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:42,580
Granada you weren't
expecting Granada, right.

2724
02:32:42,580 --> 02:32:44,120
That we used to get
an appropriation

2725
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:45,680
from Granada theater.

2726
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:46,740
So separate.

2727
02:32:46,740 --> 02:32:48,020
I see, so sorry.

2728
02:32:48,020 --> 02:32:49,260
You may not have
to come up at all,

2729
02:32:49,260 --> 02:32:50,580
but you might not have much.

2730
02:32:50,580 --> 02:32:52,420
Sorry it was because
it means you're here.

2731
02:32:52,420 --> 02:32:53,440
Give us a speech.

2732
02:32:53,440 --> 02:32:54,680
Oh, well.

2733
02:32:54,680 --> 02:32:55,380
Well thank you.

2734
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:57,500
I'd like to
introduce Cody Lacey.

2735
02:32:57,500 --> 02:32:59,840
He is our manager for
the Granada theater

2736
02:32:59,840 --> 02:33:02,880
since we took it on
in November of 2024.

2737
02:33:02,880 --> 02:33:07,830
We have significantly had
an increase in rentals.

2738
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:10,830
As we the Granada
can only sustain

2739
02:33:10,830 --> 02:33:12,410
with third party rentals.

2740
02:33:12,410 --> 02:33:16,790
Performances alone does
not bring pay the Bills.

2741
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:20,410
So Cody has done an
excellent job reaching out,

2742
02:33:20,410 --> 02:33:23,350
and I'll let him talk on
behalf of reaching out

2743
02:33:23,350 --> 02:33:26,190
to other communities
and businesses.

2744
02:33:26,190 --> 02:33:28,910
Yeah so a big part
of this is obviously

2745
02:33:28,910 --> 02:33:31,650
the Granada theater alliance
who was previously running it.

2746
02:33:31,650 --> 02:33:33,910
They did a good job,
but we reached a place

2747
02:33:33,910 --> 02:33:36,130
where it became very stagnant.

2748
02:33:36,130 --> 02:33:38,490
And we didn't see
performances at the Granada.

2749
02:33:38,490 --> 02:33:42,790
And so a big part of this and
with these appropriated funds

2750
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:45,750
is just to really help
market and advertise.

2751
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:49,690
Other communities hey, Emporia
is doing live music again.

2752
02:33:49,690 --> 02:33:53,830
We have performances, we have
space to host different kinds

2753
02:33:53,830 --> 02:33:55,330
of events and conferences.

2754
02:33:55,330 --> 02:33:59,670
We've had city planners
meetings in banquets there.

2755
02:33:59,670 --> 02:34:01,610
We're a big part
of unbound as well.

2756
02:34:01,610 --> 02:34:05,310
We're the host for all
activities unbound.

2757
02:34:05,310 --> 02:34:08,150
So just getting back out
there to the community

2758
02:34:08,150 --> 02:34:10,590
and letting them know
that, hey, Emporia is still

2759
02:34:10,590 --> 02:34:12,550
the place to go to
have a fun Friday

2760
02:34:12,550 --> 02:34:15,230
night and experience the town.

2761
02:34:15,230 --> 02:34:15,990
Thank you.

2762
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:19,550
I know a lot of times I've
been to musical events there

2763
02:34:19,550 --> 02:34:21,950
and met people from
other towns, and they've

2764
02:34:21,950 --> 02:34:25,350
commented that they're actually
spending the night also

2765
02:34:25,350 --> 02:34:28,310
because we've worked with
bring tourism in, we've worked

2766
02:34:28,310 --> 02:34:32,330
with Main Street really closely
on our placer data as well,

2767
02:34:32,330 --> 02:34:36,350
showing that we're drawing a lot
of people from Lawrence, Topeka,

2768
02:34:36,350 --> 02:34:37,650
outside areas.

2769
02:34:37,650 --> 02:34:40,650
And we even I met a couple
that was there from Nebraska.

2770
02:34:40,650 --> 02:34:42,890
They were a big fan of the
frontman when they came in,

2771
02:34:42,890 --> 02:34:45,550
and so we're drawing a
lot of people from all

2772
02:34:45,550 --> 02:34:47,910
over, not just the
state, but the region.

2773
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:50,130
And we do as an
organization also,

2774
02:34:50,130 --> 02:34:53,050
we have to lodge our artist.

2775
02:34:53,050 --> 02:34:56,750
So we have over 50
to 60 hotel rooms

2776
02:34:56,750 --> 02:34:59,390
that we personally
pay for as well

2777
02:34:59,390 --> 02:35:02,660
to host those artists here too.

2778
02:35:02,660 --> 02:35:05,380
I will point out that we hosted
the Kansas association of city

2779
02:35:05,380 --> 02:35:07,520
managers conference
back in December,

2780
02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:10,940
and we used Granada for
our Thursday night event.

2781
02:35:10,940 --> 02:35:13,320
And other than a really
suspect comedian,

2782
02:35:13,320 --> 02:35:17,320
it was a great experience
and everybody really,

2783
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:20,060
really enjoyed being there
I agree on that comment.

2784
02:35:20,060 --> 02:35:23,240
Well, and it's not really
any secret anymore,

2785
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:26,820
we have put a doorway
in between the Art

2786
02:35:26,820 --> 02:35:29,240
Center and the Granada theater.

2787
02:35:29,240 --> 02:35:33,340
That's going to open up a
whole new possibilities to host

2788
02:35:33,340 --> 02:35:37,360
a lot of conferences
and events there,

2789
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:40,980
so they can use the art
center's rooms as well.

2790
02:35:40,980 --> 02:35:41,480
And we did.

2791
02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:42,520
We use both facilities.

2792
02:35:42,520 --> 02:35:44,000
There wasn't a
door then, but yes,

2793
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:45,040
but now would be a lot easier.

2794
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:48,900
They don't have to go
around in the cold.

2795
02:35:48,900 --> 02:35:49,840
Are we green.

2796
02:35:49,840 --> 02:35:50,760
Agree all right.

2797
02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:51,660
Thank you.

2798
02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:53,120
Thank you for the
additional information.

2799
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:54,280
Sorry, I was confused.

2800
02:35:54,280 --> 02:35:57,100


2801
02:35:57,100 --> 02:35:57,600
I'm sorry.

2802
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:01,890
I'm a red, so you
want me to come up.

2803
02:36:01,890 --> 02:36:02,870
Come on up.

2804
02:36:02,870 --> 02:36:08,790
Sure did you bring.

2805
02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:14,290


2806
02:36:14,290 --> 02:36:15,970
Hello hello.

2807
02:36:15,970 --> 02:36:20,130
Can you tell us, in those
listening what these $80,000

2808
02:36:20,130 --> 02:36:21,350
in funds would go towards.

2809
02:36:21,350 --> 02:36:29,130
Please a wide array of.

2810
02:36:29,130 --> 02:36:30,790
Improvements to the
overall property.

2811
02:36:30,790 --> 02:36:32,550
The disk golf course to.

2812
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:36,650


2813
02:36:36,650 --> 02:36:39,050
The addition of
overnight lodging

2814
02:36:39,050 --> 02:36:41,430
through the tiny
homes, RV parks.

2815
02:36:41,430 --> 02:36:45,410


2816
02:36:45,410 --> 02:36:46,270
Let me go back through.

2817
02:36:46,270 --> 02:36:46,910
I submit this.

2818
02:36:46,910 --> 02:36:48,490
So long ago.

2819
02:36:48,490 --> 02:36:50,330
It is a long process.

2820
02:36:50,330 --> 02:36:53,810
It's a long process.

2821
02:36:53,810 --> 02:36:56,970
Yeah, it was a wide
mix of that with

2822
02:36:56,970 --> 02:37:00,820
and I did provide obviously
the budget along with it.

2823
02:37:00,820 --> 02:37:06,000
But it's not just for finding
homes or not just for the RV

2824
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:09,520
pads, it's for improving the
Disc Golf course to continue

2825
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:11,680
to or not to continue,
but to allow us to stay

2826
02:37:11,680 --> 02:37:13,320
relevant on the Disk
Golf Pro Tour, as

2827
02:37:13,320 --> 02:37:16,880
well as the professional
disk Golf Association

2828
02:37:16,880 --> 02:37:19,840
major tournaments.

2829
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:22,260
It seems like course
improvements at some point,

2830
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:25,200
you'd get done with them, but
it's actually as the sport just

2831
02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:28,520
continues to keep evolving it.

2832
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:30,300
The players continue
to get better.

2833
02:37:30,300 --> 02:37:34,680
They have to adapt
the courses to bring

2834
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:38,140
in the highest caliber players.

2835
02:37:38,140 --> 02:37:42,520
And we've had to make or we are
planning to make improvements

2836
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:44,520
to stay relevant on the TOUR.

2837
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:53,120
Questions I'll give
my opinion and I'm

2838
02:37:53,120 --> 02:37:54,263
probably not next to Aaron.

2839
02:37:54,263 --> 02:37:55,430
I'm probably the
one who that plays

2840
02:37:55,430 --> 02:37:56,910
the most disk golf in town.

2841
02:37:56,910 --> 02:37:58,550
Oh, you play more than me.

2842
02:37:58,550 --> 02:38:03,590
But I know at this point, just
because I've given you a lot

2843
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:05,750
and I totally understand
keeping the courses up

2844
02:38:05,750 --> 02:38:09,510
and the stuff, but
I'm just right now

2845
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:11,510
because we have so
many requests that I'm

2846
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:13,090
just kind of not at the moment.

2847
02:38:13,090 --> 02:38:17,290
So I certainly respect that.

2848
02:38:17,290 --> 02:38:18,750
Something I probably
should add in

2849
02:38:18,750 --> 02:38:22,790
is this request with
adding overnight lodging

2850
02:38:22,790 --> 02:38:24,830
through the tiny
homes and the RV

2851
02:38:24,830 --> 02:38:28,350
park does generate back into
the transient guest tax fund.

2852
02:38:28,350 --> 02:38:30,070
It allows more people to stay.

2853
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:35,130
But does an RV park do PGE
park does not currently,

2854
02:38:35,130 --> 02:38:36,850
but the tiny homes would.

2855
02:38:36,850 --> 02:38:39,210
But the RV park does
not do a TGT tax.

2856
02:38:39,210 --> 02:38:40,610
I don't know if
that's a local policy.

2857
02:38:40,610 --> 02:38:44,270
I don't know if that's a state
policy on RV parks or state.

2858
02:38:44,270 --> 02:38:47,190
Yeah, I think, but I've looked
and I cannot find not that I

2859
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:50,970
can't say you can't
charge another bag,

2860
02:38:50,970 --> 02:38:54,110
but I'm just saying we don't
get that back from an RV park,

2861
02:38:54,110 --> 02:38:57,930
so the intention would be
to book it through Airbnb.

2862
02:38:57,930 --> 02:39:00,170
I would have Airbnb.

2863
02:39:00,170 --> 02:39:04,290
Airbnb B would be
easy for you to say.

2864
02:39:04,290 --> 02:39:06,570
The state agitates
those dollars,

2865
02:39:06,570 --> 02:39:10,630
agitates aggregates, aggregates,
aggregates, agitates.

2866
02:39:10,630 --> 02:39:13,450
It has aggregates those dollars.

2867
02:39:13,450 --> 02:39:17,430
Yeah and I think the other
key thing to bring up

2868
02:39:17,430 --> 02:39:21,390
is, it's not just one
tournament or two tournaments.

2869
02:39:21,390 --> 02:39:24,630
It is players coming
through Emporia

2870
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:27,690
almost on a daily basis for
nine months out of the year.

2871
02:39:27,690 --> 02:39:29,810
Then the season is hit and miss.

2872
02:39:29,810 --> 02:39:32,790
On players coming through
during the winter.

2873
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:34,790
Just this morning
a family of three

2874
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:40,230
in from Colorado yesterday
Fargo, North Dakota.

2875
02:39:40,230 --> 02:39:42,170
And I could just
keep going back.

2876
02:39:42,170 --> 02:39:47,590
And I don't think that they're.

2877
02:39:47,590 --> 02:39:49,310
They are coming
intentionally for what we're

2878
02:39:49,310 --> 02:39:50,530
doing at champions landing.

2879
02:39:50,530 --> 02:39:54,100
And I think that the project
that we've got in front of us

2880
02:39:54,100 --> 02:39:58,940
here is something to
really put a stamp on.

2881
02:39:58,940 --> 02:40:02,700
Disc golf being an
important economic driver

2882
02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:04,140
for the city of Emporia.

2883
02:40:04,140 --> 02:40:05,360
Oh, I think it's
a great project.

2884
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:09,060
I just don't think right now I
am willing to commit that money.

2885
02:40:09,060 --> 02:40:12,660
What percentage of the
80,000 would be used

2886
02:40:12,660 --> 02:40:16,940
for marketing of tournaments.

2887
02:40:16,940 --> 02:40:22,900
I don't think there was anything
put in there for marketing.

2888
02:40:22,900 --> 02:40:26,740
No, we're obviously marketing
our events to the disk golf

2889
02:40:26,740 --> 02:40:30,340
community and beyond, but
that wasn't a specific line

2890
02:40:30,340 --> 02:40:33,140
item in this request.

2891
02:40:33,140 --> 02:40:35,080
The reason I ask because I
couldn't find it on here.

2892
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:39,660
So I was wondering if that
was because it wasn't.

2893
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:43,220
Any other questions for Jeremy.

2894
02:40:43,220 --> 02:40:44,780
I don't think so.

2895
02:40:44,780 --> 02:40:46,180
Color choices.

2896
02:40:46,180 --> 02:40:48,860
I'm feeling like
you at this point.

2897
02:40:48,860 --> 02:40:52,790
There's been a lot of
money given on a loan,

2898
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:53,950
and I understand that.

2899
02:40:53,950 --> 02:40:59,010
I just think right now I'm not
comfortable with another 80.

2900
02:40:59,010 --> 02:41:03,250
Yeah nothing against you.

2901
02:41:03,250 --> 02:41:04,370
Oh I frequent.

2902
02:41:04,370 --> 02:41:07,070
He sees me up there
eating at least.

2903
02:41:07,070 --> 02:41:09,450
Yeah yellow or red.

2904
02:41:09,450 --> 02:41:12,870
So you're in between
orange, yellow, and red.

2905
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:14,070
So you're kind of orange now.

2906
02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:15,370
OK OK.

2907
02:41:15,370 --> 02:41:16,450
Like your coat.

2908
02:41:16,450 --> 02:41:19,270
Shirt if you don't mind.

2909
02:41:19,270 --> 02:41:21,190
Real quick on the I certainly.

2910
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:22,850
The city of Emporia
has definitely

2911
02:41:22,850 --> 02:41:26,710
kicked in big on the
$500,000 forgivable loan.

2912
02:41:26,710 --> 02:41:30,370
And that ultimately is the
only reason that I have

2913
02:41:30,370 --> 02:41:32,810
the property at this point.

2914
02:41:32,810 --> 02:41:33,790
I do look at that.

2915
02:41:33,790 --> 02:41:35,830
And I know there's a lot
of criticism towards that,

2916
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:40,810
but when you look at it on a 10
year basis, at $50,000 a year,

2917
02:41:40,810 --> 02:41:43,170
that makes disk
golf stay relevant

2918
02:41:43,170 --> 02:41:45,770
in Emporia and continues
to bring people

2919
02:41:45,770 --> 02:41:50,600
to Emporia on a daily basis.

2920
02:41:50,600 --> 02:41:54,920
I think the question if that
wasn't there or maybe isn't

2921
02:41:54,920 --> 02:41:59,960
there is going to be why
didn't we support champions

2922
02:41:59,960 --> 02:42:01,500
landing and disk golf more.

2923
02:42:01,500 --> 02:42:03,920
It's certainly been
a challenge to keep

2924
02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:05,700
the doors open and operational.

2925
02:42:05,700 --> 02:42:08,720
I think we've
really found a spot

2926
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:12,520
to be sustainable
and move forward

2927
02:42:12,520 --> 02:42:14,260
to continue to improve things.

2928
02:42:14,260 --> 02:42:22,280
But on a 10 year, if it
was just if it was $50,000

2929
02:42:22,280 --> 02:42:24,680
a year instead of
500,000, I think it

2930
02:42:24,680 --> 02:42:27,060
looks significantly different.

2931
02:42:27,060 --> 02:42:29,360
And I think the city
of Emporia would

2932
02:42:29,360 --> 02:42:34,060
lose tremendously more than
$500,000 over the 10 years.

2933
02:42:34,060 --> 02:42:38,720
And we still got a long
way to get to that.

2934
02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:42,960
So I would say it was a
very Wise Business decision

2935
02:42:42,960 --> 02:42:47,800
from the decision makers at
the time to do support making

2936
02:42:47,800 --> 02:42:51,360
that property an
opportunity for me

2937
02:42:51,360 --> 02:42:53,960
to acquire it, purchase
it and not let it go up

2938
02:42:53,960 --> 02:42:55,120
on the open market
where it would

2939
02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:59,640
likely become something other
than it actually is guaranteed.

2940
02:42:59,640 --> 02:43:01,640
I have no qualms
about that one at all.

2941
02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:02,880
So yeah.

2942
02:43:02,880 --> 02:43:05,900
Didn't you get another
$56,000 at some point.

2943
02:43:05,900 --> 02:43:07,280
And was that from tgt?

2944
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:12,640
54,000 that was two years,
a year and a half ago.

2945
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:13,820
Two years after the half.

2946
02:43:13,820 --> 02:43:15,800
Yeah I didn't ask for
anything last year.

2947
02:43:15,800 --> 02:43:18,720
And that was to add three
different disk golf courses

2948
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:21,640
onto the property to make it
a beginner friendly course

2949
02:43:21,640 --> 02:43:23,780
and intermediate level course,
and advanced level course,

2950
02:43:23,780 --> 02:43:26,120
which was needed, and keep
our championship level disk

2951
02:43:26,120 --> 02:43:26,660
golf course.

2952
02:43:26,660 --> 02:43:27,793
So now there's
four different disk

2953
02:43:27,793 --> 02:43:29,560
golf and golf on the
property, as well

2954
02:43:29,560 --> 02:43:30,740
as the addition of footgolf.

2955
02:43:30,740 --> 02:43:34,360
And we've seen
while we didn't ever

2956
02:43:34,360 --> 02:43:36,360
expect it was going to be a
crazy amount of people that were

2957
02:43:36,360 --> 02:43:39,640
going to come and play footgolf,
but it's definitely opened up

2958
02:43:39,640 --> 02:43:42,280
the door to people who would
never step foot on the property

2959
02:43:42,280 --> 02:43:43,630
to come and play.

2960
02:43:43,630 --> 02:43:46,850
Footgolf feel welcome
inside and whatnot.

2961
02:43:46,850 --> 02:43:51,650
And that support
for the GPX4 was,

2962
02:43:51,650 --> 02:43:55,910
I think a very wise investment
from the GPX4 fund to we've

2963
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:58,710
now been able to have more
disk golf tournaments.

2964
02:43:58,710 --> 02:44:03,910
We can have 368
players a day play

2965
02:44:03,910 --> 02:44:05,870
tournament rounds because of
the use of the two courses

2966
02:44:05,870 --> 02:44:07,590
simultaneously.

2967
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:10,890
We haven't done that per se
yet on that total number.

2968
02:44:10,890 --> 02:44:15,950
But yeah, a lot of good
improvements there.

2969
02:44:15,950 --> 02:44:20,770
Kurt I'm kind of a yellow
orange kind of guy.

2970
02:44:20,770 --> 02:44:25,230
I think my position would be
just looking at the other things

2971
02:44:25,230 --> 02:44:28,090
that how we fund things and
the other options out there.

2972
02:44:28,090 --> 02:44:31,650
There may be a different way
to fund this part of this.

2973
02:44:31,650 --> 02:44:34,970
The only commissioner
Steinkuhler did ask me,

2974
02:44:34,970 --> 02:44:37,550
the only kind of
parallel I could think of

2975
02:44:37,550 --> 02:44:40,190
was what we did
on the Fairfield,

2976
02:44:40,190 --> 02:44:41,430
where they're
entitled, I believe

2977
02:44:41,430 --> 02:44:45,420
it's 80% because they added the
conference center that there's

2978
02:44:45,420 --> 02:44:47,300
a hold harmless one.

2979
02:44:47,300 --> 02:44:50,940
The TGT fund can't go below
the previous year's what

2980
02:44:50,940 --> 02:44:54,620
we collected, and then they
can have 80% back of what

2981
02:44:54,620 --> 02:44:59,260
was produced by the property.

2982
02:44:59,260 --> 02:45:00,780
And that was for the
conference center

2983
02:45:00,780 --> 02:45:04,800
that they did there, which could
supposed to draw a lot of room

2984
02:45:04,800 --> 02:45:05,900
nights with the
conference center

2985
02:45:05,900 --> 02:45:09,780
and use beyond that
facility for that.

2986
02:45:09,780 --> 02:45:13,460
To me, that's a better
way to look at this.

2987
02:45:13,460 --> 02:45:16,200
How does Jeremy do TGT funds.

2988
02:45:16,200 --> 02:45:18,900
So if he's only got
four tiny homes,

2989
02:45:18,900 --> 02:45:22,940
I mean, you just rebate him back
what he collected on the four

2990
02:45:22,940 --> 02:45:24,360
tiny homes for tiny homes.

2991
02:45:24,360 --> 02:45:26,260
Yeah, and 80% of it.

2992
02:45:26,260 --> 02:45:29,180
Yeah, I mean that that's
the parallel that we

2993
02:45:29,180 --> 02:45:31,440
have with another entity.

2994
02:45:31,440 --> 02:45:32,360
That entity before.

2995
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:37,160
Yeah did you include
the RV pads with that.

2996
02:45:37,160 --> 02:45:38,880
I mean, if he's
going to collect TGT,

2997
02:45:38,880 --> 02:45:41,130
if he's going through
Airbnb, the hard thing

2998
02:45:41,130 --> 02:45:44,250
in my mind with Airbnb
is I think we just

2999
02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:47,890
get a check that says Airbnb.

3000
02:45:47,890 --> 02:45:48,790
It doesn't break it down.

3001
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:50,710
And Janet, Janet in here.

3002
02:45:50,710 --> 02:45:52,190
Yeah, I am and it
does not break.

3003
02:45:52,190 --> 02:45:53,030
It doesn't break down.

3004
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:54,470
It just says Airbnb x amount.

3005
02:45:54,470 --> 02:45:57,543
So he would have to tell us how.

3006
02:45:57,543 --> 02:45:58,810
He would have to
tell us how much we'd

3007
02:45:58,810 --> 02:46:00,670
have to compare that to Airbnb.

3008
02:46:00,670 --> 02:46:03,650


3009
02:46:03,650 --> 02:46:06,150
So right now we're
in the yellow Aaron.

3010
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:11,810


3011
02:46:11,810 --> 02:46:15,650
I think there's a lot of
stuff in the application.

3012
02:46:15,650 --> 02:46:18,090
I don't know that
all of it fits TGT.

3013
02:46:18,090 --> 02:46:21,290
Obviously, the folks that
we put on the TGT board

3014
02:46:21,290 --> 02:46:24,890
did think that
all of it fit TGT.

3015
02:46:24,890 --> 02:46:28,010
I would just if it was
a little more broken

3016
02:46:28,010 --> 02:46:30,210
down to what actually fits TGT.

3017
02:46:30,210 --> 02:46:35,930
I'm kind of with the
folks on not making

3018
02:46:35,930 --> 02:46:38,770
it for actual infrastructure.

3019
02:46:38,770 --> 02:46:44,290
But if it was for marketing
and drawing in those larger

3020
02:46:44,290 --> 02:46:48,490
tournaments that we know
have to use champions landing

3021
02:46:48,490 --> 02:46:54,930
to host that quality of players,
I'd be green light all the way.

3022
02:46:54,930 --> 02:46:57,350
We could send it back to
TGT to more carefully.

3023
02:46:57,350 --> 02:47:02,330
We can send it back steady to
consider a rebate type agreement

3024
02:47:02,330 --> 02:47:04,730
and make a recommendation
because that

3025
02:47:04,730 --> 02:47:08,930
was a criticism when the
Fairfield project was done.

3026
02:47:08,930 --> 02:47:10,530
That was just done by the
commission at the time

3027
02:47:10,530 --> 02:47:11,830
without going through TGT.

3028
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:14,810
So potentially kick that
to TGT to consider what

3029
02:47:14,810 --> 02:47:16,190
a rebate type agreement be.

3030
02:47:16,190 --> 02:47:18,610
It be something to consider.

3031
02:47:18,610 --> 02:47:21,290
Matt and Christine,
what was tg's

3032
02:47:21,290 --> 02:47:23,210
thoughts on the
full recommendation.

3033
02:47:23,210 --> 02:47:24,410
You were there.

3034
02:47:24,410 --> 02:47:25,490
Oh yeah.

3035
02:47:25,490 --> 02:47:28,330
They looked it was definitely
probably the most time consuming

3036
02:47:28,330 --> 02:47:29,270
one they went through.

3037
02:47:29,270 --> 02:47:31,850
They went through it with
a fine tooth comb on it.

3038
02:47:31,850 --> 02:47:34,230
The big thing is, when you
look at transient guest tax,

3039
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:35,770
one of the three legs
of the actual fund

3040
02:47:35,770 --> 02:47:38,400
is attraction development.

3041
02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:40,480
And that's where they
really looked at this one.

3042
02:47:40,480 --> 02:47:42,060
Yes, it might be a
private business,

3043
02:47:42,060 --> 02:47:44,400
but there's no one excluding
any other private business

3044
02:47:44,400 --> 02:47:45,800
from putting together
an attraction

3045
02:47:45,800 --> 02:47:49,160
and putting together one
of these requests as well.

3046
02:47:49,160 --> 02:47:50,440
They kicked it around.

3047
02:47:50,440 --> 02:47:51,060
It wasn't.

3048
02:47:51,060 --> 02:47:54,120
It was obviously a split
vote on the group to promote

3049
02:47:54,120 --> 02:47:57,320
the recommendation
of $80,000 on it,

3050
02:47:57,320 --> 02:47:59,440
really getting into
the details of it,

3051
02:47:59,440 --> 02:48:01,520
in fact, it was a month ago.

3052
02:48:01,520 --> 02:48:04,000
Trying to think through.

3053
02:48:04,000 --> 02:48:05,800
The big thing is
we've spent a lot

3054
02:48:05,800 --> 02:48:08,060
of dollars in disk
golf infrastructure,

3055
02:48:08,060 --> 02:48:09,340
and we've got to
keep it growing.

3056
02:48:09,340 --> 02:48:13,080
When I look at it from the
visit Emporia perspective,

3057
02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:14,720
it's one of the few
things on this list

3058
02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:18,560
that I can send people
to every day of the week.

3059
02:48:18,560 --> 02:48:20,220
It sometimes we
have a hard time.

3060
02:48:20,220 --> 02:48:22,700
We put money behind
x or y event,

3061
02:48:22,700 --> 02:48:25,600
but attraction development
is critical moving

3062
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:27,180
forward from our perspective.

3063
02:48:27,180 --> 02:48:28,740
Whether it's this or
something else out there,

3064
02:48:28,740 --> 02:48:31,133
people have other
ideas for attractions

3065
02:48:31,133 --> 02:48:32,400
because we've got
to have those things

3066
02:48:32,400 --> 02:48:35,010
that people can visit the
other 50 weeks out of the year.

3067
02:48:35,010 --> 02:48:37,790


3068
02:48:37,790 --> 02:48:38,690
If you guys don't mind.

3069
02:48:38,690 --> 02:48:39,330
One more comment.

3070
02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:44,710
I know that there's some
concern in regards to it being

3071
02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:50,610
a private business that's going
after TGT support and funding,

3072
02:48:50,610 --> 02:48:55,230
and that support is not going
to necessarily a Fairfield

3073
02:48:55,230 --> 02:48:59,470
Inn or any other hotels in town,
and those other hotels in town

3074
02:48:59,470 --> 02:49:05,510
are not drawing and attracting
disk golf destination

3075
02:49:05,510 --> 02:49:09,550
tourism dollars to Emporia.

3076
02:49:09,550 --> 02:49:11,910
And I think that's
one of the big

3077
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:14,690
that's the difference in this.

3078
02:49:14,690 --> 02:49:17,910
And I think that's really
important to keep in mind

3079
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:21,310
that that's why this request
is in front of the TGT

3080
02:49:21,310 --> 02:49:28,710
to continue to make Jenkins
landing in Emporia a tourist

3081
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:31,430
destination for disk golf.

3082
02:49:31,430 --> 02:49:34,400
Yeah, I'd like to send it back
to TGT and they can rework it.

3083
02:49:34,400 --> 02:49:39,020
I mean, so I think
is that OK with them.

3084
02:49:39,020 --> 02:49:42,300
Be careful how you
massage this back

3085
02:49:42,300 --> 02:49:44,100
to because in part
of your literature

3086
02:49:44,100 --> 02:49:50,140
that you submitted with this,
you show the mention of handicap

3087
02:49:50,140 --> 02:49:54,620
accessible into
those tiny homes.

3088
02:49:54,620 --> 02:49:56,980
We can't do that.

3089
02:49:56,980 --> 02:49:58,160
So just don't mention it.

3090
02:49:58,160 --> 02:50:01,980


3091
02:50:01,980 --> 02:50:05,260
So we're sending it back to the.

3092
02:50:05,260 --> 02:50:10,600
Sorry is that OK with
you to send it back.

3093
02:50:10,600 --> 02:50:12,920
It'll come back to us again.

3094
02:50:12,920 --> 02:50:13,440
Thank you.

3095
02:50:13,440 --> 02:50:13,960
Yeah, yeah.

3096
02:50:13,960 --> 02:50:16,380
After they rework it and.

3097
02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:18,500
Yeah and at that
point, we'll also see

3098
02:50:18,500 --> 02:50:20,140
how much money is left over.

3099
02:50:20,140 --> 02:50:22,540
So yeah.

3100
02:50:22,540 --> 02:50:23,780
What else.

3101
02:50:23,780 --> 02:50:27,980
So back to dynamic disks.

3102
02:50:27,980 --> 02:50:29,100
Jackie.

3103
02:50:29,100 --> 02:50:32,980
Troll yourself up here MS mayor.

3104
02:50:32,980 --> 02:50:33,940
Yes, Erin.

3105
02:50:33,940 --> 02:50:34,480
Can we.

3106
02:50:34,480 --> 02:50:39,380
Can I submit an appropriation
request to turn these fans on.

3107
02:50:39,380 --> 02:50:43,180
Oh, I second that.

3108
02:50:43,180 --> 02:50:49,980
I don't know how we do it,
but pull the thing Mr. Ebert,

3109
02:50:49,980 --> 02:50:51,240
give that man some lunch.

3110
02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:52,340
All right.

3111
02:50:52,340 --> 02:50:54,300
Yeah OK.

3112
02:50:54,300 --> 02:50:55,340
So, Jackie.

3113
02:50:55,340 --> 02:50:57,260
Yes I think there were
questions of what you really

3114
02:50:57,260 --> 02:50:59,700
wanted to use the money for.

3115
02:50:59,700 --> 02:51:00,640
Is it going to blow over.

3116
02:51:00,640 --> 02:51:02,460
Here Taylor.

3117
02:51:02,460 --> 02:51:06,920
Yeah explain your appropriation.

3118
02:51:06,920 --> 02:51:09,060
What it really helped you do.

3119
02:51:09,060 --> 02:51:13,140
So what it really
helps me do is I know

3120
02:51:13,140 --> 02:51:16,960
at the tax, the last
meeting with the board,

3121
02:51:16,960 --> 02:51:20,860
I was explaining to them
that our disk golf events are

3122
02:51:20,860 --> 02:51:23,260
not funded by dynamic disks.

3123
02:51:23,260 --> 02:51:27,340
They are funded by sponsorships
and the player fees.

3124
02:51:27,340 --> 02:51:32,730
So while I to get some
products from dynamic at cost.

3125
02:51:32,730 --> 02:51:34,850
The money's not
coming from them.

3126
02:51:34,850 --> 02:51:38,450
So I have to raise
those funds elsewhere.

3127
02:51:38,450 --> 02:51:42,370
When the player fees are
supposed to cover x amount.

3128
02:51:42,370 --> 02:51:46,370
So the money that I
ask for goes towards

3129
02:51:46,370 --> 02:51:48,570
of elevating the
experience of the players

3130
02:51:48,570 --> 02:51:49,710
while they're in town.

3131
02:51:49,710 --> 02:51:54,210
Working with radius to
host the welcome party,

3132
02:51:54,210 --> 02:51:57,610
getting disks to the
Emporia Arts Council council

3133
02:51:57,610 --> 02:52:02,730
so they can host kids design
disks and give out prizes.

3134
02:52:02,730 --> 02:52:07,010
Working with Emporia Main
Street to host the block party.

3135
02:52:07,010 --> 02:52:09,010
Different things
like that not only

3136
02:52:09,010 --> 02:52:12,270
our competitors get to enjoy,
but also the community.

3137
02:52:12,270 --> 02:52:14,730
And it makes the competitors
want to come because the more

3138
02:52:14,730 --> 02:52:17,070
of a better party you
throw, the more obviously,

3139
02:52:17,070 --> 02:52:18,390
the more you want to go.

3140
02:52:18,390 --> 02:52:22,250
And I also noted that
in the last meeting

3141
02:52:22,250 --> 02:52:28,160
that the event that's happening
a week or two before ours.

3142
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:30,600
Only three hours down the
road, only had like 30 people

3143
02:52:30,600 --> 02:52:31,340
signed up.

3144
02:52:31,340 --> 02:52:34,240
We are nearing 400, so
they know that there

3145
02:52:34,240 --> 02:52:36,340
will be a rock STAR Tournament.

3146
02:52:36,340 --> 02:52:38,160
There'll be a rock STAR
Tournament director.

3147
02:52:38,160 --> 02:52:41,840
Yeah so in the tournament, in
the application it says, please

3148
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:45,480
provide a detailed breakdown
of how the requested funds will

3149
02:52:45,480 --> 02:52:46,220
be allocated.

3150
02:52:46,220 --> 02:52:48,240
And it says I don't have
a breakdown of this right

3151
02:52:48,240 --> 02:52:50,000
now for 2027.

3152
02:52:50,000 --> 02:52:53,060
But I can show what we are
using this year's funds for.

3153
02:52:53,060 --> 02:52:54,720
As I get it more locked in.

3154
02:52:54,720 --> 02:52:56,680
So could this be a
yellow and something

3155
02:52:56,680 --> 02:52:59,460
that comes back to us after
she has it more locked in.

3156
02:52:59,460 --> 02:53:04,740
Yeah and that was my concern,
is that we don't know what the.

3157
02:53:04,740 --> 02:53:06,960
I think that's fair because
Jackie has to work a year out.

3158
02:53:06,960 --> 02:53:08,320
I mean, yeah, she's.

3159
02:53:08,320 --> 02:53:09,480
Yeah, I think it's great.

3160
02:53:09,480 --> 02:53:12,900
When will you know what you
use the money for in 2026?

3161
02:53:12,900 --> 02:53:16,880
So I know a lot of
it more now than when

3162
02:53:16,880 --> 02:53:18,580
in April that we had was asked.

3163
02:53:18,580 --> 02:53:20,520
Yeah so I could
actually probably

3164
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:22,360
submit that rather
soon because the event

3165
02:53:22,360 --> 02:53:25,400
is actually in three weeks.

3166
02:53:25,400 --> 02:53:26,060
OK yeah.

3167
02:53:26,060 --> 02:53:28,890
That's just what I
would like to see too.

3168
02:53:28,890 --> 02:53:30,970
Of course, before
I make a decision,

3169
02:53:30,970 --> 02:53:34,030
if that's OK with
the rest of the GPX4,

3170
02:53:34,030 --> 02:53:37,010
I'd be willing to Green
light the full amount

3171
02:53:37,010 --> 02:53:42,450
with the TGT board's
discretion to get it.

3172
02:53:42,450 --> 02:53:44,490
Get the information from Jackie.

3173
02:53:44,490 --> 02:53:46,110
I don't and I met with Jackie.

3174
02:53:46,110 --> 02:53:47,390
Was that a month ago
or six weeks ago.

3175
02:53:47,390 --> 02:53:50,290
We sat down for a couple hours
and it was pretty eye opening

3176
02:53:50,290 --> 02:53:51,770
to walk through
the process of it

3177
02:53:51,770 --> 02:53:53,650
and just how much more
competitive tournaments have

3178
02:53:53,650 --> 02:53:56,770
gotten in communities,
and some of those facets

3179
02:53:56,770 --> 02:53:58,630
that have changed
since the pandemic era.

3180
02:53:58,630 --> 02:54:00,570
So it's an eco devo driver.

3181
02:54:00,570 --> 02:54:02,690
I'm OK with Aaron's
idea of making sure

3182
02:54:02,690 --> 02:54:06,210
that it fits into the visitors.

3183
02:54:06,210 --> 02:54:07,750
It's probably it's
part of the process.

3184
02:54:07,750 --> 02:54:10,770
Change with the
attraction is they're

3185
02:54:10,770 --> 02:54:13,350
not only just they're not
just giving the funds anymore.

3186
02:54:13,350 --> 02:54:15,050
They're making them
come back with this

3187
02:54:15,050 --> 02:54:16,630
is what we use the funds on.

3188
02:54:16,630 --> 02:54:17,270
I like that.

3189
02:54:17,270 --> 02:54:18,530
That makes sense.

3190
02:54:18,530 --> 02:54:20,490
So great.

3191
02:54:20,490 --> 02:54:24,770
So we're good with green, with
the caveat that the TGT board

3192
02:54:24,770 --> 02:54:26,590
works with Jackie
to make sure it fits

3193
02:54:26,590 --> 02:54:31,110
into the elevating the
visitor's experience

3194
02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:32,510
because it's a visitor's.

3195
02:54:32,510 --> 02:54:35,250
So in other words, you're not
going to write a blank check.

3196
02:54:35,250 --> 02:54:37,830
You're going to go
through the process

3197
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:39,530
before you get the full 40.

3198
02:54:39,530 --> 02:54:40,769
Yeah, the whole process.

3199
02:54:40,769 --> 02:54:42,170
You may not get process
that would change.

3200
02:54:42,170 --> 02:54:45,210
TGT 2 is pretty much
like that already.

3201
02:54:45,210 --> 02:54:47,950
Yeah and I but I would
like a copy of it too.

3202
02:54:47,950 --> 02:54:51,070
I mean, I'd like to see
what they're planning on.

3203
02:54:51,070 --> 02:54:53,350
We can do after action reports
to make sure commission

3204
02:54:53,350 --> 02:54:55,150
sees those things.

3205
02:54:55,150 --> 02:54:55,890
Yeah OK.

3206
02:54:55,890 --> 02:54:57,510
OK, so we're turning
to Green work

3207
02:54:57,510 --> 02:55:00,030
with putting some
more information.

3208
02:55:00,030 --> 02:55:03,050
I'm actually OK knowing your
life is crazy for three weeks.

3209
02:55:03,050 --> 02:55:04,410
It would be July.

3210
02:55:04,410 --> 02:55:07,950
I appreciate that.

3211
02:55:07,950 --> 02:55:08,450
Oh, yeah.

3212
02:55:08,450 --> 02:55:09,330
Yeah we're not saying.

3213
02:55:09,330 --> 02:55:10,830
Yeah, we're OK.

3214
02:55:10,830 --> 02:55:12,490
We're talking
about 2027, Jackie.

3215
02:55:12,490 --> 02:55:13,570
And you've been OK, but.

3216
02:55:13,570 --> 02:55:15,410
Yeah, you're OK.

3217
02:55:15,410 --> 02:55:16,130
Thanks, Jackie.

3218
02:55:16,130 --> 02:55:18,270
Thank you.

3219
02:55:18,270 --> 02:55:21,230
Hello we got hot pot.

3220
02:55:21,230 --> 02:55:23,090
Anybody hear from hot Michael.

3221
02:55:23,090 --> 02:55:29,720


3222
02:55:29,720 --> 02:55:31,380
Hello, I'm Mike Torres.

3223
02:55:31,380 --> 02:55:35,280
I'm the president
and his attorney.

3224
02:55:35,280 --> 02:55:39,720
OK, so I think what
was their reasoning.

3225
02:55:39,720 --> 02:55:42,000
Because it went to scholarships
and Mike was always on the table

3226
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:42,500
for.

3227
02:55:42,500 --> 02:55:44,260
Do you want to walk
them through of what.

3228
02:55:44,260 --> 02:55:47,920
Yeah so some of the conversation
that we had initially

3229
02:55:47,920 --> 02:55:52,200
I submitted a pretty detailed,
full, transparent budget

3230
02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:54,040
so that everybody could
see what our expenses

3231
02:55:54,040 --> 02:55:56,600
looked like as an organization.

3232
02:55:56,600 --> 02:55:59,360
They asked for a more
high level view of what

3233
02:55:59,360 --> 02:56:01,120
this money would be used for.

3234
02:56:01,120 --> 02:56:04,300
And so I provided a four year
break out of our budgets.

3235
02:56:04,300 --> 02:56:06,560
Looked like for Hispanics
of today and tomorrow

3236
02:56:06,560 --> 02:56:10,720
over the last four years,
having come into the position

3237
02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:14,280
last year, being in my
second year as president,

3238
02:56:14,280 --> 02:56:15,960
I still had to
thumb through some

3239
02:56:15,960 --> 02:56:18,280
of those previous
financial documents,

3240
02:56:18,280 --> 02:56:20,900
but I provided just a
high level overview.

3241
02:56:20,900 --> 02:56:23,700
We consistently
spend around $25,000

3242
02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:26,340
on our events year to year.

3243
02:56:26,340 --> 02:56:29,540
And that's the five events
that we built up to.

3244
02:56:29,540 --> 02:56:34,340
So when I came to the meeting,
the discussion that we had

3245
02:56:34,340 --> 02:56:36,160
was around scaling
up the events.

3246
02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:39,720
We want to not necessarily
recycle the same thing.

3247
02:56:39,720 --> 02:56:42,720
We want to bring larger
talent to the community,

3248
02:56:42,720 --> 02:56:44,940
and we want to draw more
people to the community

3249
02:56:44,940 --> 02:56:45,800
with our events.

3250
02:56:45,800 --> 02:56:49,380
And so that you all are
aware of those events

3251
02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:53,500
that I'm talking about are
5 de Mayo, day of the dead,

3252
02:56:53,500 --> 02:56:54,720
vamos a buscar.

3253
02:56:54,720 --> 02:56:58,900
That event that we host
Hispanic Heritage month,

3254
02:56:58,900 --> 02:57:00,620
which we stopped holding.

3255
02:57:00,620 --> 02:57:04,260
And within Bahia State
University it's now up to hartos

3256
02:57:04,260 --> 02:57:07,560
that event and then
our annual meeting,

3257
02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:10,340
which includes all of
our 35 plus partners

3258
02:57:10,340 --> 02:57:13,180
and all of our volunteers,
including those that

3259
02:57:13,180 --> 02:57:16,000
are part of our dance groups.

3260
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:21,390
So following that meeting, some
of the feedback that I received

3261
02:57:21,390 --> 02:57:26,430
was we don't necessarily just
want to fully Fund V events,

3262
02:57:26,430 --> 02:57:28,830
and that's completely
understandable.

3263
02:57:28,830 --> 02:57:33,270
I think the reason we
asked for it's a 10,000

3264
02:57:33,270 --> 02:57:37,150
increase from two years past
when we requested 25,000.

3265
02:57:37,150 --> 02:57:40,670
The reason that we asked for
that increase of $10,000 was

3266
02:57:40,670 --> 02:57:46,590
because we see where $25,000
gets us scaling up with $35,000

3267
02:57:46,590 --> 02:57:49,550
we thought was appropriate.

3268
02:57:49,550 --> 02:57:52,290
We're seeing less.

3269
02:57:52,290 --> 02:57:55,550


3270
02:57:55,550 --> 02:58:00,170
Less available options for
things like stage tickets.

3271
02:58:00,170 --> 02:58:02,990
So we have to rent
that out more.

3272
02:58:02,990 --> 02:58:07,810
We're seeing more expenses
go up for entertainment.

3273
02:58:07,810 --> 02:58:10,110
So that's not a.

3274
02:58:10,110 --> 02:58:12,750
And so those are really
the big things that we're

3275
02:58:12,750 --> 02:58:14,910
focused on in the coming year.

3276
02:58:14,910 --> 02:58:17,610
Of course, we can
make do figure it out.

3277
02:58:17,610 --> 02:58:18,650
Don't ever say that.

3278
02:58:18,650 --> 02:58:21,650
Yeah, but I wanted to be clear.

3279
02:58:21,650 --> 02:58:24,810
One of the other pieces of
confusion was around revenue.

3280
02:58:24,810 --> 02:58:26,350
And so we have two accounts.

3281
02:58:26,350 --> 02:58:29,490
Lyon County State Bank and the
important Community Foundation

3282
02:58:29,490 --> 02:58:30,810
account.

3283
02:58:30,810 --> 02:58:31,910
Is this going to events.

3284
02:58:31,910 --> 02:58:34,370
Is this going to scholarship.

3285
02:58:34,370 --> 02:58:37,390
This money is solely
pocketed for events.

3286
02:58:37,390 --> 02:58:45,330
So we have money
that could cover it,

3287
02:58:45,330 --> 02:58:48,370
our events in the community
Foundation, but that's

3288
02:58:48,370 --> 02:58:50,150
all earmarked for scholarship.

3289
02:58:50,150 --> 02:58:53,130
And so I wanted to
be clear about that.

3290
02:58:53,130 --> 02:58:56,210
The only other money that
we get is on a matchday.

3291
02:58:56,210 --> 02:59:00,210
And out of anything that
we get from donations

3292
02:59:00,210 --> 02:59:04,090
for corporations or businesses,
which is entirely up to us

3293
02:59:04,090 --> 02:59:04,790
to raise.

3294
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:09,150
So a good example
is we had 25,000,

3295
02:59:09,150 --> 02:59:11,730
and then that same
year we had 5,000 with

3296
02:59:11,730 --> 02:59:14,290
the michelin's sponsorship.

3297
02:59:14,290 --> 02:59:19,780
And then we had a little close
to $7,000 for matchday that we

3298
02:59:19,780 --> 02:59:22,260
received, and then
everything else

3299
02:59:22,260 --> 02:59:24,740
was previous year rolled over.

3300
02:59:24,740 --> 02:59:26,400
So I like the idea.

3301
02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:30,380
It's for your leveling
up, your talent and I

3302
02:59:30,380 --> 02:59:31,440
get it at this stage.

3303
02:59:31,440 --> 02:59:34,820
And your speaker, I mean, it
just costs money these days,

3304
02:59:34,820 --> 02:59:38,460
and we have already
shown in the past,

3305
02:59:38,460 --> 02:59:40,220
pacer data shows
that there are people

3306
02:59:40,220 --> 02:59:44,820
that are coming from my
County and surrounding areas.

3307
02:59:44,820 --> 02:59:46,220
Of course, we've
seen some changes

3308
02:59:46,220 --> 02:59:51,340
with transition or whether.

3309
02:59:51,340 --> 02:59:55,500
That, but I have no doubt that
this has the ability to continue

3310
02:59:55,500 --> 02:59:57,660
to draw large crowds.

3311
02:59:57,660 --> 02:59:59,880
We get thousands of
people at these events.

3312
02:59:59,880 --> 03:00:02,080
So I'm really proud
of where we're at.

3313
03:00:02,080 --> 03:00:06,380
We've been here for 30
years, so we're close to

3314
03:00:06,380 --> 03:00:07,940
and I know we can do it.

3315
03:00:07,940 --> 03:00:17,400
So thoughts from commissioners
I mean, I like the thought.

3316
03:00:17,400 --> 03:00:18,460
Yeah go ahead.

3317
03:00:18,460 --> 03:00:20,520
Somebody else want to.

3318
03:00:20,520 --> 03:00:22,820
I'm like, I keep reading,
so I don't want to leave.

3319
03:00:22,820 --> 03:00:25,340
I would be willing
to $30,000 for that.

3320
03:00:25,340 --> 03:00:25,900
OK thank you.

3321
03:00:25,900 --> 03:00:29,160
I am too, because I'm like,
if you can do if you can

3322
03:00:29,160 --> 03:00:30,860
do your after
report to say, look,

3323
03:00:30,860 --> 03:00:32,660
we raised our level of talent.

3324
03:00:32,660 --> 03:00:35,720
Here's our stages,
here's you being

3325
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:38,580
able to maybe work with
somebody else to do something.

3326
03:00:38,580 --> 03:00:40,340
And that's the way to do it.

3327
03:00:40,340 --> 03:00:45,920
Casey would stop taking
pictures or at least cut me out.

3328
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:49,360
Yeah I only fear, like any
of these is to make sure

3329
03:00:49,360 --> 03:00:51,900
that the funds
are actually used.

3330
03:00:51,900 --> 03:00:56,040
So I understand that the
TTC board recommended

3331
03:00:56,040 --> 03:01:00,560
less because that
$30,000 it goes over

3332
03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:03,720
and above your guys' budget.

3333
03:01:03,720 --> 03:01:06,080
But I would encourage
you guys to level

3334
03:01:06,080 --> 03:01:08,140
up and show that you did that.

3335
03:01:08,140 --> 03:01:12,250
And I think all
30,000 could be yours.

3336
03:01:12,250 --> 03:01:13,570
Yeah I'm agreeing.

3337
03:01:13,570 --> 03:01:15,790
I agree, especially
with your after report.

3338
03:01:15,790 --> 03:01:19,250
Yeah OK thank you.

3339
03:01:19,250 --> 03:01:19,750
Thank you.

3340
03:01:19,750 --> 03:01:22,890


3341
03:01:22,890 --> 03:01:27,190
Yeah are we switching
to the next page.

3342
03:01:27,190 --> 03:01:28,470
All right, well, we didn't.

3343
03:01:28,470 --> 03:01:30,190
Are we saying no.

3344
03:01:30,190 --> 03:01:31,170
We're said no to.

3345
03:01:31,170 --> 03:01:34,470
We're moving on to because
we handled that transition.

3346
03:01:34,470 --> 03:01:34,970
All right.

3347
03:01:34,970 --> 03:01:35,790
Let's go.

3348
03:01:35,790 --> 03:01:38,010
Next page.

3349
03:01:38,010 --> 03:01:38,750
All right.

3350
03:01:38,750 --> 03:01:42,810
This is other funds.

3351
03:01:42,810 --> 03:01:46,830
And these are all new requests
other than cross ones.

3352
03:01:46,830 --> 03:01:49,090
Cross ones at $85,000.

3353
03:01:49,090 --> 03:01:50,270
That's the old corner house.

3354
03:01:50,270 --> 03:01:53,530
That's probably the easy
special alcohol green.

3355
03:01:53,530 --> 03:01:55,430
So maybe unless
there's an objection,

3356
03:01:55,430 --> 03:01:58,610
we can green that real quick,
then we can come to the other.

3357
03:01:58,610 --> 03:01:59,270
Which one are you.

3358
03:01:59,270 --> 03:02:00,250
Greening I'm sorry.

3359
03:02:00,250 --> 03:02:03,170
Cross did you have to
do that at that time.

3360
03:02:03,170 --> 03:02:05,030
Did you not do their normal 25.

3361
03:02:05,030 --> 03:02:06,650
They did not submit this year.

3362
03:02:06,650 --> 03:02:08,070
Oh, OK.

3363
03:02:08,070 --> 03:02:09,170
For that.

3364
03:02:09,170 --> 03:02:11,730
And is that the
whole alcohol thing.

3365
03:02:11,730 --> 03:02:12,610
No, that leaves them in.

3366
03:02:12,610 --> 03:02:14,110
That's everything
we have, Taylor.

3367
03:02:14,110 --> 03:02:15,950
I thought we had 105 in it.

3368
03:02:15,950 --> 03:02:19,550
So we said crosswinds is
going to special alcohol.

3369
03:02:19,550 --> 03:02:20,450
Yes OK.

3370
03:02:20,450 --> 03:02:22,210
For oh, right.

3371
03:02:22,210 --> 03:02:23,530
It's not all that's in there.

3372
03:02:23,530 --> 03:02:25,690
But that's the only.

3373
03:02:25,690 --> 03:02:27,230
All right, let's go back to the.

3374
03:02:27,230 --> 03:02:28,410
We just approved 85.

3375
03:02:28,410 --> 03:02:31,350
Yeah OK Flint hills tac.

3376
03:02:31,350 --> 03:02:35,230
Last year, they received $71,000
for their nursing program.

3377
03:02:35,230 --> 03:02:37,530
This year, they're asking
for a number of things.

3378
03:02:37,530 --> 03:02:43,910
257,000 for precision alcohol,
CeeDee facility renovations

3379
03:02:43,910 --> 03:02:45,570
for city annexation.

3380
03:02:45,570 --> 03:02:46,650
This is precision.

3381
03:02:46,650 --> 03:02:48,510
Precision agriculture.

3382
03:02:48,510 --> 03:02:51,590
Alcohol alcohol.

3383
03:02:51,590 --> 03:02:55,430
There may be something
coming through here.

3384
03:02:55,430 --> 03:02:58,610
Precision precision
agricultural CDL facility.

3385
03:02:58,610 --> 03:03:04,450
Renovations to include ADA and
fire suppression upgrades there.

3386
03:03:04,450 --> 03:03:07,290
So that's 257,000 at best.

3387
03:03:07,290 --> 03:03:08,440
We have funded the.

3388
03:03:08,440 --> 03:03:15,760
Phase out of economic
development funds in the past.

3389
03:03:15,760 --> 03:03:20,200
We three years ago we
took the request to RDA.

3390
03:03:20,200 --> 03:03:22,540
RDA recommended not to fund it.

3391
03:03:22,540 --> 03:03:25,160
The commission went
ahead and funded it.

3392
03:03:25,160 --> 03:03:26,380
And it wasn't nursing.

3393
03:03:26,380 --> 03:03:26,900
What was it.

3394
03:03:26,900 --> 03:03:29,520
It was mental health.

3395
03:03:29,520 --> 03:03:30,580
No, no.

3396
03:03:30,580 --> 03:03:34,400
They're teaching or maintenance.

3397
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:35,300
Child care.

3398
03:03:35,300 --> 03:03:37,600
Child care program.

3399
03:03:37,600 --> 03:03:40,280
A program to help
child care to get

3400
03:03:40,280 --> 03:03:41,540
their teachers through faster.

3401
03:03:41,540 --> 03:03:44,040
Yes crosswinds.

3402
03:03:44,040 --> 03:03:45,060
We talked about crosswinds.

3403
03:03:45,060 --> 03:03:47,780
Southwick house, $62,000.

3404
03:03:47,780 --> 03:03:51,560
And this is really,
once again, maybe you

3405
03:03:51,560 --> 03:03:54,180
could stretch it into funds.

3406
03:03:54,180 --> 03:03:56,880
I mean, obviously, it's
the other side of economic

3407
03:03:56,880 --> 03:04:01,000
development, $62,000.

3408
03:04:01,000 --> 03:04:04,240
And this is what they're saying
is required emergency fire

3409
03:04:04,240 --> 03:04:09,020
access drive $40,000
for the car parking,

3410
03:04:09,020 --> 03:04:12,500
which I think were hard to
get into economic development,

3411
03:04:12,500 --> 03:04:15,380
making that link
there by itself.

3412
03:04:15,380 --> 03:04:18,180
My mind, it's probably
a general fund thing.

3413
03:04:18,180 --> 03:04:21,220
And then Kansas
Spanish speakers.

3414
03:04:21,220 --> 03:04:22,940
This does go with
workforce development

3415
03:04:22,940 --> 03:04:26,460
and community services
and employment

3416
03:04:26,460 --> 03:04:27,800
and educational services.

3417
03:04:27,800 --> 03:04:31,460
So I think you can make a
fairly easy argument to put

3418
03:04:31,460 --> 03:04:32,840
that in economic development.

3419
03:04:32,840 --> 03:04:34,860
How much is in
economic development.

3420
03:04:34,860 --> 03:04:41,940
1.5 OK.

3421
03:04:41,940 --> 03:04:48,060
And then imaginarium
this is $20,000

3422
03:04:48,060 --> 03:04:49,680
for their STEM activities.

3423
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:53,360
I don't know that this goes
in any of our special buckets.

3424
03:04:53,360 --> 03:04:56,700
In my mind this is probably
a general fund request.

3425
03:04:56,700 --> 03:04:58,740
Just hard to put anywhere.

3426
03:04:58,740 --> 03:04:59,880
Emporia Municipal Band.

3427
03:04:59,880 --> 03:05:01,800
That is the same thing that
we've been doing, by the way.

3428
03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:03,460
7:30 tomorrow night,
ribbon cutting

3429
03:05:03,460 --> 03:05:05,650
on the new Christine Romans.

3430
03:05:05,650 --> 03:05:08,890
Mark debtor Memorial.

3431
03:05:08,890 --> 03:05:10,670
No honorary.

3432
03:05:10,670 --> 03:05:13,250
Can we get those pictures, like
on a stick when you're at, like,

3433
03:05:13,250 --> 03:05:15,230
a ball game and they're
all marked better.

3434
03:05:15,230 --> 03:05:19,370
I asked Mark if he was coming
back and he told me no.

3435
03:05:19,370 --> 03:05:20,690
He probably said no.

3436
03:05:20,690 --> 03:05:21,290
He told me no.

3437
03:05:21,290 --> 03:05:23,310
I was like, oh, so
you're really leaving.

3438
03:05:23,310 --> 03:05:24,410
Can I ask another question.

3439
03:05:24,410 --> 03:05:28,310
Yes when you say economic
development, what do we have.

3440
03:05:28,310 --> 03:05:30,590
Ending cash fund balance
is that right now.

3441
03:05:30,590 --> 03:05:34,590
Yes Well, what we have
going go back to that Taylor

3442
03:05:34,590 --> 03:05:37,190
real quick because the
proposed expenditures are

3443
03:05:37,190 --> 03:05:41,190
these included in that
proposed expenditures amount.

3444
03:05:41,190 --> 03:05:42,430
I don't believe so.

3445
03:05:42,430 --> 03:05:46,590
No this is last
year's look right.

3446
03:05:46,590 --> 03:05:52,270
This is beginning is the
anticipated 26 ending.

3447
03:05:52,270 --> 03:05:54,070
And then the
expenditures and receipts

3448
03:05:54,070 --> 03:05:56,750
for 27 and then ending balance.

3449
03:05:56,750 --> 03:06:01,110
So, so so the expenditures are
all fully funding everything.

3450
03:06:01,110 --> 03:06:02,370
Yes and the 760.

3451
03:06:02,370 --> 03:06:02,890
Well no.

3452
03:06:02,890 --> 03:06:08,170
The 763 is going to
be one of the 763

3453
03:06:08,170 --> 03:06:11,290
is going to basically be the
water tower and RDA expenses.

3454
03:06:11,290 --> 03:06:12,190
So that's what I'm asking.

3455
03:06:12,190 --> 03:06:14,650
Do I need to take that out of
either the beginning balance

3456
03:06:14,650 --> 03:06:15,950
or the ending cash balance.

3457
03:06:15,950 --> 03:06:18,050
No, I mean no, no,
it's out of there.

3458
03:06:18,050 --> 03:06:21,370
Yeah so the so the proposed
expenditures right now

3459
03:06:21,370 --> 03:06:26,130
is just so we have 1.5 left
after funding RDA and the water

3460
03:06:26,130 --> 03:06:28,970
tower that we can use on
these things that aren't

3461
03:06:28,970 --> 03:06:30,530
in that expenditure
stuff, depending

3462
03:06:30,530 --> 03:06:32,090
on what we want to maintain.

3463
03:06:32,090 --> 03:06:34,790
We don't have a requirement
for a balance on that.

3464
03:06:34,790 --> 03:06:37,810
I would tell you, unless we
truly have somebody who's

3465
03:06:37,810 --> 03:06:39,530
going to create
2000 jobs, I really

3466
03:06:39,530 --> 03:06:41,270
want a strong balance in that.

3467
03:06:41,270 --> 03:06:45,170
Make sure it comes out
of industrial and TGT.

3468
03:06:45,170 --> 03:06:46,370
Yes Main Street.

3469
03:06:46,370 --> 03:06:47,470
Yes right.

3470
03:06:47,470 --> 03:06:49,170
Yes in general keeping them.

3471
03:06:49,170 --> 03:06:52,050
Yeah part of that
763 does include

3472
03:06:52,050 --> 03:06:59,110
the 257 for the Flint hills and
the 25 for the Kansas speakers.

3473
03:06:59,110 --> 03:07:01,880
Does it include and
the water tower.

3474
03:07:01,880 --> 03:07:02,720
Yes, it does.

3475
03:07:02,720 --> 03:07:05,100
OK yeah.

3476
03:07:05,100 --> 03:07:06,360
OK OK.

3477
03:07:06,360 --> 03:07:09,260


3478
03:07:09,260 --> 03:07:12,380
48 RDA is not in there,
so we're 400,000.

3479
03:07:12,380 --> 03:07:13,640
So that's the problem.

3480
03:07:13,640 --> 03:07:14,400
RDA is not in there.

3481
03:07:14,400 --> 03:07:18,920
So that's $400,000 we need
to add in there to fund RDA.

3482
03:07:18,920 --> 03:07:21,460
So it's 257 that
we have in there.

3483
03:07:21,460 --> 03:07:23,860
So really the
normal expenditures

3484
03:07:23,860 --> 03:07:28,140
we need to add 130 to get
to the normal expenditures.

3485
03:07:28,140 --> 03:07:29,800
And then we tried
doing City Math.

3486
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:32,460
Just tell me how much
money you got left.

3487
03:07:32,460 --> 03:07:37,980
Yeah I think it best you guys
have 150 to play with her

3488
03:07:37,980 --> 03:07:40,000
in economic development.

3489
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:41,460
Thank you.

3490
03:07:41,460 --> 03:07:43,340
So we don't really have.

3491
03:07:43,340 --> 03:07:46,360
So can we now look at the
economic development ones first.

3492
03:07:46,360 --> 03:07:49,440
Yes so that would be
economic development.

3493
03:07:49,440 --> 03:07:52,220
Go back so that
what could go in.

3494
03:07:52,220 --> 03:07:53,080
I like that screen there.

3495
03:07:53,080 --> 03:07:55,380
What could go in
economic development.

3496
03:07:55,380 --> 03:07:57,080
Is ESU.

3497
03:07:57,080 --> 03:08:00,120
I don't know that can go in
there because that's for what is

3498
03:08:00,120 --> 03:08:03,280
that for the drug prevention.

3499
03:08:03,280 --> 03:08:05,900
Well, they typically
do it out of that fund.

3500
03:08:05,900 --> 03:08:09,960
This is their fishing one
that they do with hot.

3501
03:08:09,960 --> 03:08:13,440
So could that mean could
you get TGT on that one.

3502
03:08:13,440 --> 03:08:16,280
To me it is because
they're bringing

3503
03:08:16,280 --> 03:08:19,220
everybody to do a whole
day of outdoor activity.

3504
03:08:19,220 --> 03:08:20,640
I mean it's an event.

3505
03:08:20,640 --> 03:08:23,020
It's an event event
or a tourist event.

3506
03:08:23,020 --> 03:08:24,360
I think it's both
because they bring

3507
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:28,000
the kids come from just
funded part of its budget

3508
03:08:28,000 --> 03:08:30,160
for that exact event.

3509
03:08:30,160 --> 03:08:33,840
The hot portion of
it, not the portion.

3510
03:08:33,840 --> 03:08:41,200
Yeah Leland, can you
speak at all on that one.

3511
03:08:41,200 --> 03:08:44,780
Well ESU certainly has never put
in a request, to my knowledge,

3512
03:08:44,780 --> 03:08:46,140
for that specific event.

3513
03:08:46,140 --> 03:08:48,500
And obviously I've not seen
the specific application,

3514
03:08:48,500 --> 03:08:50,840
so I'm not quite sure
what they might be asking,

3515
03:08:50,840 --> 03:08:53,500
but yes, I did hear Mike
clearly, as you all did,

3516
03:08:53,500 --> 03:08:58,650
that is one of the events that
they requested funding for.

3517
03:08:58,650 --> 03:09:01,510
That's about the most historical
context of this issue,

3518
03:09:01,510 --> 03:09:03,210
to my knowledge,
has ever made it.

3519
03:09:03,210 --> 03:09:04,970
It does sound a little
more transient guest

3520
03:09:04,970 --> 03:09:09,810
tax, in my humble opinion,
but I have a weird question.

3521
03:09:09,810 --> 03:09:11,030
Casey woods, can you.

3522
03:09:11,030 --> 03:09:11,990
They told it out.

3523
03:09:11,990 --> 03:09:17,450
The prophet can placer narrowed
down to just the prophet aquatic

3524
03:09:17,450 --> 03:09:20,530
center or whatever it's called.

3525
03:09:20,530 --> 03:09:21,890
I would just be curious.

3526
03:09:21,890 --> 03:09:23,790
Yeah, we can put that
yellow for the day.

3527
03:09:23,790 --> 03:09:27,730
Yeah I wouldn't
take it out of ego.

3528
03:09:27,730 --> 03:09:30,050
If anything, I'm leaning
toward something else.

3529
03:09:30,050 --> 03:09:33,510
TGT that has a little
bit of wiggle words,

3530
03:09:33,510 --> 03:09:37,930
in case you understood
my words. right.

3531
03:09:37,930 --> 03:09:39,350
What else do you want.

3532
03:09:39,350 --> 03:09:41,050
So, did you just
make that yellow.

3533
03:09:41,050 --> 03:09:42,270
Is that what we decided.

3534
03:09:42,270 --> 03:09:43,830
And maybe get some
more information on it.

3535
03:09:43,830 --> 03:09:45,250
Yeah OK.

3536
03:09:45,250 --> 03:09:48,870
Big Brothers Big Sisters trying
to start that program back up,

3537
03:09:48,870 --> 03:09:50,890
and they're asking
for an appropriation.

3538
03:09:50,890 --> 03:09:52,230
Does anybody hear
from Big brothers.

3539
03:09:52,230 --> 03:09:53,130
Big sisters.

3540
03:09:53,130 --> 03:09:57,310
I don't feel like
that's going to be red.

3541
03:09:57,310 --> 03:09:58,290
Yeah I'm sorry.

3542
03:09:58,290 --> 03:09:59,930
I'm like, that's wonderful.

3543
03:09:59,930 --> 03:10:02,610
But if and if $5,000 is
going to make or break you,

3544
03:10:02,610 --> 03:10:05,350
this is not should
have had somebody here

3545
03:10:05,350 --> 03:10:07,250
to try to explain it to us.

3546
03:10:07,250 --> 03:10:09,170
Well, I mean, it's
a great program.

3547
03:10:09,170 --> 03:10:11,350
Don't be wrong,
but I just can't.

3548
03:10:11,350 --> 03:10:12,650
It's a city thing.

3549
03:10:12,650 --> 03:10:15,010
Yeah all right.

3550
03:10:15,010 --> 03:10:16,650
Imaginarium 25,000.

3551
03:10:16,650 --> 03:10:19,830
Once again, we think at best,
that would be general funding.

3552
03:10:19,830 --> 03:10:22,410
Oh, that's somebody's
half salary.

3553
03:10:22,410 --> 03:10:24,990


3554
03:10:24,990 --> 03:10:28,090
Didn't we give
them for last time.

3555
03:10:28,090 --> 03:10:31,390
We did out of TGT funding
when they were looking

3556
03:10:31,390 --> 03:10:33,370
at doing the more museum.

3557
03:10:33,370 --> 03:10:36,330
And did they buy any of
that was there after.

3558
03:10:36,330 --> 03:10:39,070
They have not that money
has been impounded.

3559
03:10:39,070 --> 03:10:41,370
So we need to have a
conversation on that.

3560
03:10:41,370 --> 03:10:44,970
So I think until they clear
that up then I'm sorry.

3561
03:10:44,970 --> 03:10:54,760
I think I read yeah, yeah,
they got to get there together.

3562
03:10:54,760 --> 03:10:58,160
All right, now we're
down to eco devo.

3563
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:01,720
We have the Kansas Spanish
speakers at $25,000.

3564
03:11:01,720 --> 03:11:03,220
That was OK, right.

3565
03:11:03,220 --> 03:11:04,300
Workforce development.

3566
03:11:04,300 --> 03:11:06,680
Which I think does
fit into eco devo.

3567
03:11:06,680 --> 03:11:09,900
Yeah that much
workforce development.

3568
03:11:09,900 --> 03:11:11,600
That's a huge increase.

3569
03:11:11,600 --> 03:11:13,340
That's going from 0 to 25,000.

3570
03:11:13,340 --> 03:11:14,080
Leland is here.

3571
03:11:14,080 --> 03:11:15,147
No, no, not that one.

3572
03:11:15,147 --> 03:11:16,180
I'm totally fine with that one.

3573
03:11:16,180 --> 03:11:18,380
I thought you were on the FH.

3574
03:11:18,380 --> 03:11:20,220
No, we're on the Spanish.

3575
03:11:20,220 --> 03:11:21,520
Yeah, I'm good
with that up here.

3576
03:11:21,520 --> 03:11:24,820
OK I think they
just keep it short.

3577
03:11:24,820 --> 03:11:28,160
You're already at a green for
most of it, so there you go.

3578
03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:29,033
Don't talk yourself.

3579
03:11:29,033 --> 03:11:29,700
Don't talk yourself.

3580
03:11:29,700 --> 03:11:31,960
Out of 25,000.

3581
03:11:31,960 --> 03:11:33,700
Well, it's a new request.

3582
03:11:33,700 --> 03:11:36,540
And we're a new organization
by all standards.

3583
03:11:36,540 --> 03:11:37,960
Just this past
month, we celebrated

3584
03:11:37,960 --> 03:11:39,860
two years of being a 501(c)(3.

3585
03:11:39,860 --> 03:11:41,220
We started as a language club.

3586
03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:44,540
As most of you are aware,
we try really hard.

3587
03:11:44,540 --> 03:11:45,940
We do have some
new commissioners,

3588
03:11:45,940 --> 03:11:48,300
so we want to make sure
we're communicating with you.

3589
03:11:48,300 --> 03:11:51,700
But in those short two
years we have quickly became

3590
03:11:51,700 --> 03:11:53,780
very much a community
development organization

3591
03:11:53,780 --> 03:11:56,740
and in my opinion, a fairly
critical and essential one.

3592
03:11:56,740 --> 03:11:58,860
Obviously, we work predominantly
with Spanish speaking

3593
03:11:58,860 --> 03:12:01,480
population in our community,
which you guys know the stats.

3594
03:12:01,480 --> 03:12:03,520
2010 we were 15% Hispanic.

3595
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:06,780
By today we're 33%
of the over 1,000

3596
03:12:06,780 --> 03:12:09,640
people that have lost their
jobs in the past 18 months.

3597
03:12:09,640 --> 03:12:13,140
My organization, which is really
two gals, have seen nearly 500

3598
03:12:13,140 --> 03:12:14,340
of those people.

3599
03:12:14,340 --> 03:12:15,980
We've helped them with
unemployment request

3600
03:12:15,980 --> 03:12:18,860
applications, job applications,
resume building, computer

3601
03:12:18,860 --> 03:12:21,400
literacy, programming and all.

3602
03:12:21,400 --> 03:12:24,140
Almost all of those
Spanish speaking, a couple

3603
03:12:24,140 --> 03:12:27,140
speaking, which we do our best
to translate like anyone else

3604
03:12:27,140 --> 03:12:28,000
would.

3605
03:12:28,000 --> 03:12:29,300
But we're there for
anyone and everyone

3606
03:12:29,300 --> 03:12:30,600
that needs that assistance.

3607
03:12:30,600 --> 03:12:32,340
But the point is our
Hispanic community

3608
03:12:32,340 --> 03:12:34,340
is being disproportionately
affected by the layoffs

3609
03:12:34,340 --> 03:12:35,940
that we're
experiencing, basically

3610
03:12:35,940 --> 03:12:37,300
because they're
predominantly employed

3611
03:12:37,300 --> 03:12:39,140
in those manufacturing roles.

3612
03:12:39,140 --> 03:12:41,700
And our organization has
been a critical lifeline

3613
03:12:41,700 --> 03:12:45,620
to retaining them in
Emporia as long as possible.

3614
03:12:45,620 --> 03:12:48,080
Unemployment gets them
another four months.

3615
03:12:48,080 --> 03:12:51,190
Job applications get them
either working back in Emporia

3616
03:12:51,190 --> 03:12:53,850
or and I will share
with you overwhelmingly,

3617
03:12:53,850 --> 03:12:55,410
they want to remain in Emporia.

3618
03:12:55,410 --> 03:12:57,170
They're willing to commute
to Topeka or Ottawa,

3619
03:12:57,170 --> 03:12:59,270
the warehouses or
factories there.

3620
03:12:59,270 --> 03:13:02,130
And anecdotally speaking,
our organization,

3621
03:13:02,130 --> 03:13:04,670
by admission of
these individuals,

3622
03:13:04,670 --> 03:13:06,650
has been essential in keeping
them in our community.

3623
03:13:06,650 --> 03:13:10,390
They would not have otherwise
been as easily able to remain

3624
03:13:10,390 --> 03:13:12,090
here without our assistance.

3625
03:13:12,090 --> 03:13:13,730
Some of that's
technical expertise.

3626
03:13:13,730 --> 03:13:15,670
A lot of that is trust building.

3627
03:13:15,670 --> 03:13:18,350
And so we went back and
forth on whether to make

3628
03:13:18,350 --> 03:13:19,690
a request to the city.

3629
03:13:19,690 --> 03:13:22,470
But we feel strongly and
confidently that this is work

3630
03:13:22,470 --> 03:13:25,930
that we have become experts in.

3631
03:13:25,930 --> 03:13:27,490
We enjoy assisting in this way.

3632
03:13:27,490 --> 03:13:29,750
We want to continue
doing it, but we

3633
03:13:29,750 --> 03:13:31,530
need support in order to do it.

3634
03:13:31,530 --> 03:13:33,850
And so that's what
this request is.

3635
03:13:33,850 --> 03:13:36,290
And it's not just the
workforce development,

3636
03:13:36,290 --> 03:13:38,370
as Trey put in
the summary there,

3637
03:13:38,370 --> 03:13:40,430
there's a whole other
slew of just community

3638
03:13:40,430 --> 03:13:42,010
integration that takes place.

3639
03:13:42,010 --> 03:13:44,610
It's connecting people to
primary care physicians.

3640
03:13:44,610 --> 03:13:46,630
It's helping them
get driver's license.

3641
03:13:46,630 --> 03:13:48,310
All of those things factor in.

3642
03:13:48,310 --> 03:13:49,950
Driver's license isn't
just for driving,

3643
03:13:49,950 --> 03:13:53,990
it's also for applying for jobs
and immigration documentation.

3644
03:13:53,990 --> 03:13:55,930
Make sure they have the
appropriate documentation

3645
03:13:55,930 --> 03:13:57,030
that allows them to work.

3646
03:13:57,030 --> 03:14:00,130
All of those things
help grow our pool

3647
03:14:00,130 --> 03:14:02,870
of talent that can be employed
here, that can reside here,

3648
03:14:02,870 --> 03:14:04,570
that can rent or
buy homes and pay

3649
03:14:04,570 --> 03:14:07,790
property taxes and sales tax in
our stores and all those things.

3650
03:14:07,790 --> 03:14:10,390
And so we're proud of
the work we've done.

3651
03:14:10,390 --> 03:14:13,070
We've been excited to share it
on a platform with the city.

3652
03:14:13,070 --> 03:14:15,890
And I think this request is
an Avenue for us to open up

3653
03:14:15,890 --> 03:14:17,610
that conversation
about what we're doing

3654
03:14:17,610 --> 03:14:20,650
and how we can work
together on that.

3655
03:14:20,650 --> 03:14:22,650
OK thank you.

3656
03:14:22,650 --> 03:14:23,670
Green green.

3657
03:14:23,670 --> 03:14:24,850
All right.

3658
03:14:24,850 --> 03:14:27,370
Green right.

3659
03:14:27,370 --> 03:14:28,890
Now that changes color.

3660
03:14:28,890 --> 03:14:29,830
It's in the right bucket.

3661
03:14:29,830 --> 03:14:32,690
So, can I speak on behalf
of imaginarium real quick.

3662
03:14:32,690 --> 03:14:33,570
Sure sure.

3663
03:14:33,570 --> 03:14:37,110
Yeah Who is this.

3664
03:14:37,110 --> 03:14:42,050
So, your name and name and
address, Brianna Nelson.

3665
03:14:42,050 --> 03:14:46,180
I am the president of the
Board for imaginarium.

3666
03:14:46,180 --> 03:14:47,780
So the whole plan
that they had had

3667
03:14:47,780 --> 03:14:52,660
originally was when we
got the TJ grant was

3668
03:14:52,660 --> 03:14:55,860
to build a Children's Museum.

3669
03:14:55,860 --> 03:14:59,700
They started working with
somebody who is a business

3670
03:14:59,700 --> 03:15:02,180
consultant based
off of the Patterson

3671
03:15:02,180 --> 03:15:03,320
group grants and everything.

3672
03:15:03,320 --> 03:15:05,740
They have gotten decided that
was not the best direction

3673
03:15:05,740 --> 03:15:07,620
within the next five years.

3674
03:15:07,620 --> 03:15:10,620
So the sale of the building
actually happened today.

3675
03:15:10,620 --> 03:15:16,140
And so now the focus is to
bring back STEM learning to

3676
03:15:16,140 --> 03:15:17,660
with the classes
and the summer camps

3677
03:15:17,660 --> 03:15:22,560
and everything of that sort
versus the actual museum,

3678
03:15:22,560 --> 03:15:24,260
I guess.

3679
03:15:24,260 --> 03:15:25,620
So with that said,
the money that

3680
03:15:25,620 --> 03:15:27,860
they need now is
completely different

3681
03:15:27,860 --> 03:15:30,820
from the original Last year's.

3682
03:15:30,820 --> 03:15:33,840
It's more so for consumable
items for the kids.

3683
03:15:33,840 --> 03:15:35,620
I mean, they're going
through products

3684
03:15:35,620 --> 03:15:38,820
frequently, especially with
summer camps and everything.

3685
03:15:38,820 --> 03:15:42,300
Reusing items it's bringing.

3686
03:15:42,300 --> 03:15:44,120
Let's see, they have a
whole list of things.

3687
03:15:44,120 --> 03:15:46,120
Sorry it was not my favorite.

3688
03:15:46,120 --> 03:15:52,840


3689
03:15:52,840 --> 03:15:54,600
No can I grab my phone.

3690
03:15:54,600 --> 03:15:55,600
Sure yeah, sure.

3691
03:15:55,600 --> 03:16:05,080
Yeah let's see.

3692
03:16:05,080 --> 03:16:07,760
Do we already have.

3693
03:16:07,760 --> 03:16:08,900
OK OK.

3694
03:16:08,900 --> 03:16:13,360
So their whole plan is to invest
in long term sustainability,

3695
03:16:13,360 --> 03:16:15,960
to strengthen the actual
foundation of the organization

3696
03:16:15,960 --> 03:16:18,360
before moving forward.

3697
03:16:18,360 --> 03:16:21,520
They've kind of developed
now a three year fundraising

3698
03:16:21,520 --> 03:16:24,040
plan to move forward.

3699
03:16:24,040 --> 03:16:25,880
So this is going to
be bringing in money

3700
03:16:25,880 --> 03:16:27,720
for the different
children that are

3701
03:16:27,720 --> 03:16:34,180
in the groups, the classes, the
stem, like the drop in classes,

3702
03:16:34,180 --> 03:16:35,340
everything of that sort.

3703
03:16:35,340 --> 03:16:42,220
They also do a adult classes
to bring different stem things,

3704
03:16:42,220 --> 03:16:45,170
since they're not being taught
as much in the school system.

3705
03:16:45,170 --> 03:16:47,390
So it's going to
be more so I said,

3706
03:16:47,390 --> 03:16:50,770
for the consumable products,
supplies, different things

3707
03:16:50,770 --> 03:16:51,350
from that source.

3708
03:16:51,350 --> 03:16:54,090
It's also going to go towards
scholarships for kids who

3709
03:16:54,090 --> 03:16:56,050
are in the community, who
have actually reached out

3710
03:16:56,050 --> 03:16:58,330
to families, have
reached out, and there's

3711
03:16:58,330 --> 03:17:02,050
cost barriers associated with
not being able to get their kids

3712
03:17:02,050 --> 03:17:03,850
into it, but they want to.

3713
03:17:03,850 --> 03:17:07,050
So local businesses and
everything of that sort.

3714
03:17:07,050 --> 03:17:08,250
But they want to
be able to actually

3715
03:17:08,250 --> 03:17:12,570
because they got rid of the peak
foundation or the keep program.

3716
03:17:12,570 --> 03:17:15,890
So a lot of kids weren't able
to afford to be able to go

3717
03:17:15,890 --> 03:17:17,110
to the classes and everything.

3718
03:17:17,110 --> 03:17:21,250
So that's what the money is
being requested for this time

3719
03:17:21,250 --> 03:17:23,030
versus the original plan.

3720
03:17:23,030 --> 03:17:25,730
So there is a difference
in between them.

3721
03:17:25,730 --> 03:17:31,410
So yeah, I think the
reason we put it in red

3722
03:17:31,410 --> 03:17:34,850
is because it just doesn't the
ask that they had last year

3723
03:17:34,850 --> 03:17:36,350
fit into one of our buckets.

3724
03:17:36,350 --> 03:17:39,150
And this ask just simply doesn't
fit into one of our buckets.

3725
03:17:39,150 --> 03:17:42,530
So since it does bring in
people from other towns,

3726
03:17:42,530 --> 03:17:44,490
I mean, people do
travel from Wichita.

3727
03:17:44,490 --> 03:17:48,150
They travel from it's
not just Emporia.

3728
03:17:48,150 --> 03:17:49,570
There are children
that are I mean,

3729
03:17:49,570 --> 03:17:53,550
they have a vast Casey is that
can we get a placer on that.

3730
03:17:53,550 --> 03:17:55,370
Because they have I
mean, they teach classes.

3731
03:17:55,370 --> 03:17:57,490
Melanie Melanie goes to Madison.

3732
03:17:57,490 --> 03:17:59,870
She travels and does things
that brings people in.

3733
03:17:59,870 --> 03:18:02,670
I mean, my boys do
classes at imaginarium

3734
03:18:02,670 --> 03:18:04,230
and they have kids that are.

3735
03:18:04,230 --> 03:18:05,790
Tell us how you
think that it would

3736
03:18:05,790 --> 03:18:10,590
fit in workforce development
for eco devo and/or.

3737
03:18:10,590 --> 03:18:13,790
No, I think she's I think she's
saying I understand that it

3738
03:18:13,790 --> 03:18:15,870
doesn't fit into
one of these four,

3739
03:18:15,870 --> 03:18:18,090
but it is bringing people
from outside the community.

3740
03:18:18,090 --> 03:18:20,790
But could part of it be proven.

3741
03:18:20,790 --> 03:18:22,130
Proven to be tgt?

3742
03:18:22,130 --> 03:18:23,830
So if Casey could do
a place here for us

3743
03:18:23,830 --> 03:18:25,550
and we could look
at it and say, Casey

3744
03:18:25,550 --> 03:18:26,730
knows more about all of that.

3745
03:18:26,730 --> 03:18:29,470
So we're putting it
in a yellow in TGT.

3746
03:18:29,470 --> 03:18:34,510
Maybe we do it in the blue and
ask TGT to take a look at it.

3747
03:18:34,510 --> 03:18:36,190
I have a note for it
that it's going back

3748
03:18:36,190 --> 03:18:38,680
to TGT, have them
look at the place

3749
03:18:38,680 --> 03:18:40,320
or make a recommendation on it.

3750
03:18:40,320 --> 03:18:41,960
Sure OK.

3751
03:18:41,960 --> 03:18:43,180
But then it comes back to us.

3752
03:18:43,180 --> 03:18:44,040
Yes yeah.

3753
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:45,080
Yeah OK.

3754
03:18:45,080 --> 03:18:45,960
Thank you guys.

3755
03:18:45,960 --> 03:18:49,540
Maybe the request amount
changes according to the data.

3756
03:18:49,540 --> 03:18:51,280
Yeah and they can share that.

3757
03:18:51,280 --> 03:18:54,320
Thank you.

3758
03:18:54,320 --> 03:18:58,780
All right Amanda.

3759
03:18:58,780 --> 03:19:00,480
Greg Amanda.

3760
03:19:00,480 --> 03:19:02,560
Yeah the band is just here.

3761
03:19:02,560 --> 03:19:05,340
Yes Bands are just hanging out.

3762
03:19:05,340 --> 03:19:06,060
Bands? green.

3763
03:19:06,060 --> 03:19:08,020
Band The band.

3764
03:19:08,020 --> 03:19:08,660
Band is green.

3765
03:19:08,660 --> 03:19:09,440
Green all right.

3766
03:19:09,440 --> 03:19:11,040
Back here for the band.

3767
03:19:11,040 --> 03:19:12,160
All right, you're green.

3768
03:19:12,160 --> 03:19:14,200
Oh, OK.

3769
03:19:14,200 --> 03:19:15,420
Yeah come on.

3770
03:19:15,420 --> 03:19:16,820
You can be free
whenever you want.

3771
03:19:16,820 --> 03:19:18,340
Now you're green salad, but.

3772
03:19:18,340 --> 03:19:25,040
Yeah Southwick or FTC.

3773
03:19:25,040 --> 03:19:26,840
FTC is anybody here.

3774
03:19:26,840 --> 03:19:28,640
Can I reach over you.

3775
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:29,760
I'm sorry.

3776
03:19:29,760 --> 03:19:30,540
Come on up.

3777
03:19:30,540 --> 03:19:31,420
Well, howdy.

3778
03:19:31,420 --> 03:19:37,100


3779
03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:39,860
How much is it in the eco
devo tech college South.

3780
03:19:39,860 --> 03:19:44,260
One 5150 150,000.

3781
03:19:44,260 --> 03:19:48,600
150 I think 150 is a safe
amount to stay in 150,000.

3782
03:19:48,600 --> 03:19:51,200
And we've already
spent 25 or committed.

3783
03:19:51,200 --> 03:19:54,100
Yeah So I'm just.

3784
03:19:54,100 --> 03:19:55,140
I know it's math.

3785
03:19:55,140 --> 03:19:56,960
So we got 1:25 left.

3786
03:19:56,960 --> 03:19:59,260
That would be what I
would be comfortable with.

3787
03:19:59,260 --> 03:20:00,280
OK go ahead.

3788
03:20:00,280 --> 03:20:00,800
Go ahead.

3789
03:20:00,800 --> 03:20:02,000
Estimation of math.

3790
03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:03,480
Hello Nancy Thompson.

3791
03:20:03,480 --> 03:20:05,820
I'm taking Karen
Doherty's place.

3792
03:20:05,820 --> 03:20:07,960
Forgive her for not being
able to be here today.

3793
03:20:07,960 --> 03:20:09,000
She was out of town.

3794
03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:14,860
So we are requesting assistance
with renovating our building

3795
03:20:14,860 --> 03:20:21,100
over on the overlander
road to fill our precision

3796
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:23,840
ag program and our CDL program.

3797
03:20:23,840 --> 03:20:26,940
And the requests that are on
the Appropriations Committee

3798
03:20:26,940 --> 03:20:31,620
are for the ADA compliance
type renovations that we have.

3799
03:20:31,620 --> 03:20:36,750
We've had some requests for the
County and some other grants

3800
03:20:36,750 --> 03:20:41,130
out to for equipment and some
of the other renovations.

3801
03:20:41,130 --> 03:20:45,270
But that's the ADA side
of what we were requesting

3802
03:20:45,270 --> 03:20:47,070
from the city for support.

3803
03:20:47,070 --> 03:20:50,010
Are there other questions.

3804
03:20:50,010 --> 03:20:52,190
Aaron, weren't you
with us when we cross

3805
03:20:52,190 --> 03:20:55,350
ones came for help with their
building 2 and we were like,

3806
03:20:55,350 --> 03:20:57,910
we told them to go
out and match it.

3807
03:20:57,910 --> 03:21:00,150
And then they did not
come back to us on a match

3808
03:21:00,150 --> 03:21:05,350
because we were like, we can't
fund everybody's physical.

3809
03:21:05,350 --> 03:21:10,990
Things we want to come back
to talk about Southwick

3810
03:21:10,990 --> 03:21:13,330
and see how they pair.

3811
03:21:13,330 --> 03:21:17,710


3812
03:21:17,710 --> 03:21:18,730
Yeah I'm not.

3813
03:21:18,730 --> 03:21:22,050
Yeah you can stay here,
just for a second.

3814
03:21:22,050 --> 03:21:23,490
Yeah Karen.

3815
03:21:23,490 --> 03:21:28,990
Aaron and thanks for the fans.

3816
03:21:28,990 --> 03:21:30,010
Good suggestion.

3817
03:21:30,010 --> 03:21:32,750
That was a good suggestion
all the way across the board.

3818
03:21:32,750 --> 03:21:37,760
Aaron staring in the room
where Aaron, Aaron and Kara

3819
03:21:37,760 --> 03:21:39,080
from Southwick
and Aaron, I think

3820
03:21:39,080 --> 03:21:40,420
you're going to speak a little.

3821
03:21:40,420 --> 03:21:42,600
Yeah what do you
guys want to know.

3822
03:21:42,600 --> 03:21:44,800
How do you think it
fits into eco devo?

3823
03:21:44,800 --> 03:21:48,040
So in the comprehensive
plan, specifically

3824
03:21:48,040 --> 03:21:50,200
in the economic
development section,

3825
03:21:50,200 --> 03:21:53,600
it mentions equitable
housing as a prime driver

3826
03:21:53,600 --> 03:21:55,020
for economic development.

3827
03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:56,140
And that's where we fit in.

3828
03:21:56,140 --> 03:22:00,720
There's a growing gap between
those who are homeless,

3829
03:22:00,720 --> 03:22:02,600
who do not have a
place to sleep tonight

3830
03:22:02,600 --> 03:22:05,400
and however many
weeks in the future.

3831
03:22:05,400 --> 03:22:08,320
And what's considered low.

3832
03:22:08,320 --> 03:22:10,720
Low income housing,
low income renting,

3833
03:22:10,720 --> 03:22:15,920
there's a massive gap there
and we plan to bridge that gap.

3834
03:22:15,920 --> 03:22:18,840
How were your priorities be
of somebody who is homeless

3835
03:22:18,840 --> 03:22:21,640
versus somebody who has
no place to sleep tomorrow

3836
03:22:21,640 --> 03:22:23,760
versus I'm full
because everybody's

3837
03:22:23,760 --> 03:22:26,400
on our low rent side, I guess.

3838
03:22:26,400 --> 03:22:28,040
Are you trying to
speak, Becky But do you

3839
03:22:28,040 --> 03:22:29,440
see where I'm going with that.

3840
03:22:29,440 --> 03:22:32,380
Like, how are you going to
prioritize your clients,

3841
03:22:32,380 --> 03:22:33,360
prioritize them.

3842
03:22:33,360 --> 03:22:35,180
It'll be first
come, first serve,

3843
03:22:35,180 --> 03:22:42,020
and there will be some
taken away for it's certain.

3844
03:22:42,020 --> 03:22:45,020
Like aggressive.

3845
03:22:45,020 --> 03:22:46,540
Yeah so that a
lot of people will

3846
03:22:46,540 --> 03:22:48,453
come and refer through
certain community partners.

3847
03:22:48,453 --> 03:22:49,320
Is this what you're doing.

3848
03:22:49,320 --> 03:22:50,560
Well, who's getting turned away.

3849
03:22:50,560 --> 03:22:52,080
There are only sex offenders.

3850
03:22:52,080 --> 03:22:53,760
Offenders? know what I'm saying.

3851
03:22:53,760 --> 03:22:55,820
You have, and we'll
just round numbers.

3852
03:22:55,820 --> 03:23:00,340
Your facility has
all low rent people

3853
03:23:00,340 --> 03:23:01,240
right now, which is great.

3854
03:23:01,240 --> 03:23:02,300
Say they're all.

3855
03:23:02,300 --> 03:23:05,760
But now we have two
homeless people walking in.

3856
03:23:05,760 --> 03:23:08,020
How do you.

3857
03:23:08,020 --> 03:23:11,140
I think that our goal
is that with the stay

3858
03:23:11,140 --> 03:23:14,640
is only 280 days, which is
meant to be a time to stabilize.

3859
03:23:14,640 --> 03:23:17,040
So for someone who is homeless
or in a low income level,

3860
03:23:17,040 --> 03:23:19,500
it's never meant to be a
permanent solution, which

3861
03:23:19,500 --> 03:23:22,360
is intended to keep
that space open,

3862
03:23:22,360 --> 03:23:24,840
to keep spaces opening
up continually.

3863
03:23:24,840 --> 03:23:27,180
So It's not meant to be
a permanent situation

3864
03:23:27,180 --> 03:23:29,350
or permanent housing situation.

3865
03:23:29,350 --> 03:23:32,630
It's meant to be a place where
when someone is on hard times

3866
03:23:32,630 --> 03:23:34,670
and they need just that little
bit help and that little bit

3867
03:23:34,670 --> 03:23:37,490
of stabilization maybe
they've lost their job,

3868
03:23:37,490 --> 03:23:41,730
maybe they had some type of
catastrophic medical illness.

3869
03:23:41,730 --> 03:23:43,070
They need a little time.

3870
03:23:43,070 --> 03:23:48,130
So whether or not the
space will be first come,

3871
03:23:48,130 --> 03:23:50,830
first serve, but the goal will
be for the minute someone comes

3872
03:23:50,830 --> 03:23:52,190
in the door to get
them stabilized

3873
03:23:52,190 --> 03:23:55,030
and get them back out so that
then those spaces open up

3874
03:23:55,030 --> 03:23:55,890
for others.

3875
03:23:55,890 --> 03:23:57,103
Yeah the idea is
to turn it over,

3876
03:23:57,103 --> 03:23:58,270
but if you're asking
if we're going

3877
03:23:58,270 --> 03:24:00,710
to have to turn people away
because we're at max capacity.

3878
03:24:00,710 --> 03:24:03,350
Absolutely well, yeah, but
your whole thing for eco

3879
03:24:03,350 --> 03:24:06,450
devo is for the lower rent.

3880
03:24:06,450 --> 03:24:09,270
And so I'm asking, how much.

3881
03:24:09,270 --> 03:24:10,770
90% lower rent.

3882
03:24:10,770 --> 03:24:12,630
Like how that would really.

3883
03:24:12,630 --> 03:24:13,710
Yeah deal.

3884
03:24:13,710 --> 03:24:16,550
It really depends on what the
needs of the employer are.

3885
03:24:16,550 --> 03:24:20,910
If we have more people who
can't afford section 8 housing,

3886
03:24:20,910 --> 03:24:24,030
then we're going to have to
service a lot more people who

3887
03:24:24,030 --> 03:24:25,830
are on the verge of
homelessness as opposed to

3888
03:24:25,830 --> 03:24:28,590
in that low rent category.

3889
03:24:28,590 --> 03:24:32,450


3890
03:24:32,450 --> 03:24:34,410
And I'll also say that
there's a lot of literature

3891
03:24:34,410 --> 03:24:37,530
out there from HUD
about stable housing

3892
03:24:37,530 --> 03:24:39,930
and how it relates to
workforce development.

3893
03:24:39,930 --> 03:24:42,930
And that all of us sitting
around the table right now

3894
03:24:42,930 --> 03:24:44,850
have a bed to go
home to at night,

3895
03:24:44,850 --> 03:24:47,490
have a stove to cook
a hot meal over.

3896
03:24:47,490 --> 03:24:49,390
But when you're working
an eight hour shift,

3897
03:24:49,390 --> 03:24:52,530
and I know you guys are
all fogged up in the brain

3898
03:24:52,530 --> 03:24:55,610
because of how the last
four hours have gone,

3899
03:24:55,610 --> 03:24:58,450
all you want to do is go home
and you want to rest well.

3900
03:24:58,450 --> 03:25:00,950
It's pretty tough to do your
job and do your job effectively.

3901
03:25:00,950 --> 03:25:02,890
If you don't know where you're
going to lay your head down

3902
03:25:02,890 --> 03:25:05,050
at night when you get home.

3903
03:25:05,050 --> 03:25:07,090
There's a lot of
literature out there

3904
03:25:07,090 --> 03:25:12,850
that suggests stable living
supports workforce development.

3905
03:25:12,850 --> 03:25:15,570
I would add the other factor
with us, with our priority

3906
03:25:15,570 --> 03:25:18,890
being women and families, that
families tend to look different

3907
03:25:18,890 --> 03:25:20,150
when it comes to homelessness.

3908
03:25:20,150 --> 03:25:22,310
They don't tend as often
to end up on the street.

3909
03:25:22,310 --> 03:25:25,050
They end up, living
in a car, living

3910
03:25:25,050 --> 03:25:28,140
in someone's spare
bedroom or and so

3911
03:25:28,140 --> 03:25:30,220
that kind of brings us
back to that lower income

3912
03:25:30,220 --> 03:25:34,300
scenario versus what we
like a chronic homelessness

3913
03:25:34,300 --> 03:25:35,320
type situation.

3914
03:25:35,320 --> 03:25:37,860
So I think that the
nature of our facility

3915
03:25:37,860 --> 03:25:40,060
will draw us back
to that lower income

3916
03:25:40,060 --> 03:25:43,640
category versus true
unhoused homelessness.

3917
03:25:43,640 --> 03:25:50,940
But we plan to be able to
accept both the 85,000 we spent.

3918
03:25:50,940 --> 03:25:55,560
Special parks that has to go to
treatments, though, doesn't it.

3919
03:25:55,560 --> 03:25:56,440
What's the.

3920
03:25:56,440 --> 03:26:00,460
Let me have Christina look at
the special alcohol state law.

3921
03:26:00,460 --> 03:26:03,620
So one thing I will say is that
we're not offering any case

3922
03:26:03,620 --> 03:26:04,880
management, and that's fine.

3923
03:26:04,880 --> 03:26:07,820
I'm just wondering, I'll
be honest, we only have.

3924
03:26:07,820 --> 03:26:09,440
How much did we have left, Kurt.

3925
03:26:09,440 --> 03:26:10,760
Yeah, like 125.

3926
03:26:10,760 --> 03:26:13,500
Yeah, that's what
I was thinking.

3927
03:26:13,500 --> 03:26:15,540
Thank you, Eric and math.

3928
03:26:15,540 --> 03:26:17,140
And while she's looking
that up, I you mentioned

3929
03:26:17,140 --> 03:26:19,680
the crosswinds at last year.

3930
03:26:19,680 --> 03:26:22,540
You guys had talked
about them matching.

3931
03:26:22,540 --> 03:26:25,320
We're asking for very,
very, very small percentage

3932
03:26:25,320 --> 03:26:26,580
of our overall budget.

3933
03:26:26,580 --> 03:26:29,560
Our overall construction
budget comes out to about 3.1

3934
03:26:29,560 --> 03:26:32,980
when you account for all
the indirect costs with it.

3935
03:26:32,980 --> 03:26:35,380
But you're asking for a very,
very large part of our budget.

3936
03:26:35,380 --> 03:26:41,400
Yes so it's all relative.
$62,000 of 1.5 million.

3937
03:26:41,400 --> 03:26:44,900
We're down to $150,000
left in this fund.

3938
03:26:44,900 --> 03:26:47,620
Yeah, there's no 051 25 now.

3939
03:26:47,620 --> 03:26:49,640
One there's no other
zeros behind here

3940
03:26:49,640 --> 03:26:52,280
anymore because they didn't.

3941
03:26:52,280 --> 03:26:54,220
Yeah they had to add
in our other stuff.

3942
03:26:54,220 --> 03:26:56,960


3943
03:26:56,960 --> 03:26:59,900
So the commission
can either accept 60.

3944
03:26:59,900 --> 03:27:01,060
You can change the amount.

3945
03:27:01,060 --> 03:27:06,160
You can tell them respectfully
know what your thoughts.

3946
03:27:06,160 --> 03:27:07,820
Can I say one last thing.

3947
03:27:07,820 --> 03:27:08,860
Sure in the application.

3948
03:27:08,860 --> 03:27:10,220
Don't make me put
the two minutes on.

3949
03:27:10,220 --> 03:27:12,960
I'm sorry.

3950
03:27:12,960 --> 03:27:16,280
In the application, I
mentioned that $46,000 of it is

3951
03:27:16,280 --> 03:27:18,840
construction for an additional
fire lane that we didn't know

3952
03:27:18,840 --> 03:27:21,620
we needed until about December.

3953
03:27:21,620 --> 03:27:23,170
I want to say January.

3954
03:27:23,170 --> 03:27:25,450
And last fall we
had submitted plans

3955
03:27:25,450 --> 03:27:27,570
pretty early on to the city.

3956
03:27:27,570 --> 03:27:30,410
The plans got pushed back and
forth between our design review

3957
03:27:30,410 --> 03:27:34,050
team and the city, and
ended up landing on his desk

3958
03:27:34,050 --> 03:27:36,090
about a week before he left.

3959
03:27:36,090 --> 03:27:38,870
So the plans kind of sat in
limbo for quite some time,

3960
03:27:38,870 --> 03:27:41,250
and we had to move
forward with our plans

3961
03:27:41,250 --> 03:27:44,930
to get them bid out
on the CDBG timeline,

3962
03:27:44,930 --> 03:27:47,130
because we didn't have
enough time to actually

3963
03:27:47,130 --> 03:27:49,730
reassess that additional cost.

3964
03:27:49,730 --> 03:27:52,930
We bid it as an adult to
our construction budget

3965
03:27:52,930 --> 03:27:54,930
and have the contractor
bid it, so we knew exactly

3966
03:27:54,930 --> 03:27:56,650
how much was going into that.

3967
03:27:56,650 --> 03:27:58,530
Otherwise, the
alternative was probably

3968
03:27:58,530 --> 03:28:02,090
to start chopping off rooms
or go with other materials

3969
03:28:02,090 --> 03:28:03,610
that were less costly.

3970
03:28:03,610 --> 03:28:06,650
We weren't awarded that
time to go over those budget

3971
03:28:06,650 --> 03:28:09,330
considerations, simply
because the process took

3972
03:28:09,330 --> 03:28:11,090
so long with that fire lane.

3973
03:28:11,090 --> 03:28:15,290
So we're asking for $46,000
in appropriations, really,

3974
03:28:15,290 --> 03:28:19,910
for that fire lane addition, as
well as an extra 16,000 of just

3975
03:28:19,910 --> 03:28:23,070
additional construction costs.

3976
03:28:23,070 --> 03:28:24,090
Principal purpose.

3977
03:28:24,090 --> 03:28:29,510
How many rooms do you sleep
or how many South of the house

3978
03:28:29,510 --> 03:28:30,430
is it.

3979
03:28:30,430 --> 03:28:31,870
Is it 12 or 14.

3980
03:28:31,870 --> 03:28:32,890
No it's 14.

3981
03:28:32,890 --> 03:28:37,170
Non-congregate rooms with
111 non-congregate 14.

3982
03:28:37,170 --> 03:28:39,810
Congregate rooms with
the amount of beds.

3983
03:28:39,810 --> 03:28:41,670
Space to hold as many as 60.

3984
03:28:41,670 --> 03:28:45,050
60 yeah, like 060.

3985
03:28:45,050 --> 03:28:46,650
Non-congregate is like that.

3986
03:28:46,650 --> 03:28:49,610
One unit is basically almost
like an efficiency apartment.

3987
03:28:49,610 --> 03:28:51,370
It's kind of a
self-contained unit,

3988
03:28:51,370 --> 03:28:53,210
particularly because we'll
have families and children.

3989
03:28:53,210 --> 03:28:56,110
That allows us to have a
space because everybody else

3990
03:28:56,110 --> 03:28:58,010
shares a kitchen,
shares a living space.

3991
03:28:58,010 --> 03:29:00,070
They have their
own sleeping space,

3992
03:29:00,070 --> 03:29:01,930
but they share the
showers and bathrooms.

3993
03:29:01,930 --> 03:29:04,237
I mean, it's a separate kind
of a roommate situation.

3994
03:29:04,237 --> 03:29:05,870
Yeah it's like you're
living in the dorms, right.

3995
03:29:05,870 --> 03:29:09,090
Yeah that is you have
your own room, but yeah.

3996
03:29:09,090 --> 03:29:12,710
Are you going to have any
space that is dedicated

3997
03:29:12,710 --> 03:29:15,750
to alcohol and
drug people who are

3998
03:29:15,750 --> 03:29:17,670
in alcohol and drug treatment.

3999
03:29:17,670 --> 03:29:19,880
Not any dedicated space.

4000
03:29:19,880 --> 03:29:21,060
I know I'm trying.

4001
03:29:21,060 --> 03:29:25,960
It says it's the principle you
use has to be the treatment

4002
03:29:25,960 --> 03:29:28,200
of alcohol and drug.

4003
03:29:28,200 --> 03:29:29,540
Unless Cara has.

4004
03:29:29,540 --> 03:29:32,360
So Cara has been our executive
director since February.

4005
03:29:32,360 --> 03:29:32,940
Oh, no.

4006
03:29:32,940 --> 03:29:34,040
Like, end of March.

4007
03:29:34,040 --> 03:29:35,333
End of March.

4008
03:29:35,333 --> 03:29:36,600
And she's been working
with the Kansas

4009
03:29:36,600 --> 03:29:38,380
Housing Coalition for a while.

4010
03:29:38,380 --> 03:29:40,720
So maybe there have
been updates that.

4011
03:29:40,720 --> 03:29:45,000
So I know that we qualify for
certain drug and alcohol things

4012
03:29:45,000 --> 03:29:46,820
under their transitional
housing rules,

4013
03:29:46,820 --> 03:29:48,540
because one of the
requirements, I mean,

4014
03:29:48,540 --> 03:29:52,700
we anticipate a significant
proportion of our client,

4015
03:29:52,700 --> 03:29:56,120
of our residents to be people
with substance use treatment

4016
03:29:56,120 --> 03:29:58,520
happening at that
time or children who

4017
03:29:58,520 --> 03:30:01,340
have been impacted by drug use.

4018
03:30:01,340 --> 03:30:06,880
So it is an anticipated large
portion of our population.

4019
03:30:06,880 --> 03:30:08,300
But until we open the doors.

4020
03:30:08,300 --> 03:30:11,040
I can't know what that
percentage will be.

4021
03:30:11,040 --> 03:30:15,360
We will be having an MOU with
crosswinds and other substance

4022
03:30:15,360 --> 03:30:16,220
use providers.

4023
03:30:16,220 --> 03:30:19,280
So it's definitely a
component in what we do.

4024
03:30:19,280 --> 03:30:21,420
So is there anything
in your budget

4025
03:30:21,420 --> 03:30:25,540
that you could move out
that this would fit in more

4026
03:30:25,540 --> 03:30:27,160
into your budget in a section.

4027
03:30:27,160 --> 03:30:27,960
You see what I'm saying.

4028
03:30:27,960 --> 03:30:31,700
Like, can if we're like,
oh, if we're going to pay, I

4029
03:30:31,700 --> 03:30:34,380
don't 5,000 for your duck pond.

4030
03:30:34,380 --> 03:30:36,700
So take your duck pond
out and it's going to be

4031
03:30:36,700 --> 03:30:38,200
over paid for something else.

4032
03:30:38,200 --> 03:30:39,560
And then we slide in there.

4033
03:30:39,560 --> 03:30:42,220
I'm trying to get you
anywhere I designate one.

4034
03:30:42,220 --> 03:30:46,180
Would designating one room
specifically for that use.

4035
03:30:46,180 --> 03:30:47,240
Christina suffice.

4036
03:30:47,240 --> 03:30:48,900
We're looking at the
Statue on the fly.

4037
03:30:48,900 --> 03:30:52,060
Yeah it says that the
money shall be expended

4038
03:30:52,060 --> 03:30:56,380
for other services
or programs whose

4039
03:30:56,380 --> 03:31:01,540
principal purpose is alcoholism
and drug abuse prevention.

4040
03:31:01,540 --> 03:31:04,500
But that could be
a program within.

4041
03:31:04,500 --> 03:31:07,320
It doesn't have to be the
sole use of the whole.

4042
03:31:07,320 --> 03:31:09,520
That could be a piece of it
and then just that piece.

4043
03:31:09,520 --> 03:31:12,180
But that doesn't give them a
full allow people to have drugs

4044
03:31:12,180 --> 03:31:14,040
or alcohol at Southwick house.

4045
03:31:14,040 --> 03:31:14,870
Or will you.

4046
03:31:14,870 --> 03:31:16,770
I mean, would that somebody
who is in treatment.

4047
03:31:16,770 --> 03:31:20,150
But some 100% people will be in
treatment because we've already

4048
03:31:20,150 --> 03:31:23,430
been in conversation with in
powerhouse about transitioning

4049
03:31:23,430 --> 03:31:25,550
people out into our facility.

4050
03:31:25,550 --> 03:31:28,310
And we have already been in
conversation with crosswinds

4051
03:31:28,310 --> 03:31:30,950
about building an
MOU for their clients

4052
03:31:30,950 --> 03:31:33,270
who are going through
drug treatment.

4053
03:31:33,270 --> 03:31:36,770
So, I mean, but that doesn't
help them build a fire lane.

4054
03:31:36,770 --> 03:31:39,110
Well, yeah, it goes
to the construction

4055
03:31:39,110 --> 03:31:41,730
of the entire I mean, it's
all towards the facility.

4056
03:31:41,730 --> 03:31:43,430
Yeah because unfortunately,
a lot of the wiggle

4057
03:31:43,430 --> 03:31:46,630
room, like for example,
there were initially

4058
03:31:46,630 --> 03:31:48,810
plans to have some things
back behind the building,

4059
03:31:48,810 --> 03:31:50,290
but with the extension
of the fire lane,

4060
03:31:50,290 --> 03:31:52,790
we have not actually had
a chance to reevaluate

4061
03:31:52,790 --> 03:31:54,050
those things either.

4062
03:31:54,050 --> 03:31:56,230
And those would be the areas
we probably would have cut.

4063
03:31:56,230 --> 03:32:00,030
If what we'd need to do is
2027 is show that we treated

4064
03:32:00,030 --> 03:32:03,470
someone for you, you
probably need to show

4065
03:32:03,470 --> 03:32:05,510
that you have a program.

4066
03:32:05,510 --> 03:32:07,910
Do you and any other
support services

4067
03:32:07,910 --> 03:32:10,170
that are job skills related.

4068
03:32:10,170 --> 03:32:11,190
For sure.

4069
03:32:11,190 --> 03:32:15,930
And I think I
mean, possibly if I

4070
03:32:15,930 --> 03:32:19,530
think you would have to
show that a certain how many

4071
03:32:19,530 --> 03:32:22,090
and what's your total
cost for the whole thing

4072
03:32:22,090 --> 03:32:26,830
is like 3.6 for the 3.63, 3.1
for the actual construction,

4073
03:32:26,830 --> 03:32:27,710
3.6.

4074
03:32:27,710 --> 03:32:30,730
And how many rooms.

4075
03:32:30,730 --> 03:32:36,170
3.1 and there's 15 units, 15
units, 14 non-congregate or

4076
03:32:36,170 --> 03:32:38,230
congregate one non-congregate.

4077
03:32:38,230 --> 03:32:39,370
Now I'm into math.

4078
03:32:39,370 --> 03:32:40,710
Can we put them in yellow.

4079
03:32:40,710 --> 03:32:42,830
Let's put them in yellow.

4080
03:32:42,830 --> 03:32:45,310
And we can do some creative
thinking outside the box.

4081
03:32:45,310 --> 03:32:49,150
And that way we can move on, try
to see if we're all tired, OK.

4082
03:32:49,150 --> 03:32:49,990
See what we can do.

4083
03:32:49,990 --> 03:32:50,630
Yeah OK.

4084
03:32:50,630 --> 03:32:52,870
Good we're trying, we're trying.

4085
03:32:52,870 --> 03:32:59,050
Our estimates of math are not
working as well this morning.

4086
03:32:59,050 --> 03:33:00,050
Thank you guys.

4087
03:33:00,050 --> 03:33:00,730
Thank you.

4088
03:33:00,730 --> 03:33:03,050
OK oh.

4089
03:33:03,050 --> 03:33:04,610
Nancy Nancy.

4090
03:33:04,610 --> 03:33:07,210
Yeah is Nancy it.

4091
03:33:07,210 --> 03:33:09,150
Yeah No Cara.

4092
03:33:09,150 --> 03:33:10,550
Cara Cara.

4093
03:33:10,550 --> 03:33:11,840
Kara it's Renee.

4094
03:33:11,840 --> 03:33:15,060
Yeah, they've been sitting
here since the meeting started.

4095
03:33:15,060 --> 03:33:16,900
Yeah you guys sat
through the whole.

4096
03:33:16,900 --> 03:33:19,460
They sat through everything.

4097
03:33:19,460 --> 03:33:20,680
I should've took you up on you.

4098
03:33:20,680 --> 03:33:23,300
Didn't have anything else
to do today, did you.

4099
03:33:23,300 --> 03:33:25,780
Not at all.

4100
03:33:25,780 --> 03:33:26,960
No working on your house at all.

4101
03:33:26,960 --> 03:33:28,700
Are you.

4102
03:33:28,700 --> 03:33:30,680
Are you live there.

4103
03:33:30,680 --> 03:33:31,560
OK nice.

4104
03:33:31,560 --> 03:33:33,400
Yeah they're my new neighbors.

4105
03:33:33,400 --> 03:33:35,000
Yeah oh, down the street.

4106
03:33:35,000 --> 03:33:40,000
Yeah, I'll be honest, because
I can be honest with Renee.

4107
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:44,000
I'm like, a parking lot is not
floating my boat for the money.

4108
03:33:44,000 --> 03:33:47,300
I mean, if we start
doing it for you.

4109
03:33:47,300 --> 03:33:49,320
Well, I want a parking lot,
or I want a parking lot,

4110
03:33:49,320 --> 03:33:50,440
or I want a parking lot.

4111
03:33:50,440 --> 03:33:54,660
So I'll just speak to
how I'm the CFO there.

4112
03:33:54,660 --> 03:33:59,300
I respect that we were
like, trying to look at,

4113
03:33:59,300 --> 03:34:01,820
yes, it'll be a parking
lot for our employees,

4114
03:34:01,820 --> 03:34:04,100
but we are so close
to Hammond park

4115
03:34:04,100 --> 03:34:06,800
and that State Street, if
you guys have driven on it,

4116
03:34:06,800 --> 03:34:07,720
it has no curbing.

4117
03:34:07,720 --> 03:34:10,360
No, we actually had to
park on there at one point.

4118
03:34:10,360 --> 03:34:12,880
It's pretty congested, but
we thought we could open

4119
03:34:12,880 --> 03:34:15,260
it up to evening and weekends.

4120
03:34:15,260 --> 03:34:18,600
And we were willing to if there
was an event scheduled to have

4121
03:34:18,600 --> 03:34:20,920
that parking lot available,
we're like, right by hole

4122
03:34:20,920 --> 03:34:22,420
number 6 on that disk golf.

4123
03:34:22,420 --> 03:34:24,600
So we ask you like we asked
them, is there something

4124
03:34:24,600 --> 03:34:29,480
else that this could fit in so
that opens up the moneys for you

4125
03:34:29,480 --> 03:34:32,560
to spend on your parking lot.

4126
03:34:32,560 --> 03:34:36,540
Do you see what I'm
trying to lay down.

4127
03:34:36,540 --> 03:34:42,640


4128
03:34:42,640 --> 03:34:46,280
Because where do we have I mean,
where do we have them right now.

4129
03:34:46,280 --> 03:34:47,380
Nowhere we're floating.

4130
03:34:47,380 --> 03:34:52,400
We're floating Floating yeah.

4131
03:34:52,400 --> 03:34:53,900
Do you have treatment
plans, though.

4132
03:34:53,900 --> 03:34:55,260
Don't you know.

4133
03:34:55,260 --> 03:34:56,880
You don't have.

4134
03:34:56,880 --> 03:34:58,660
We see people with addiction.

4135
03:34:58,660 --> 03:34:59,980
Yes but you don't.

4136
03:34:59,980 --> 03:35:02,860
But you don't have a specific
counseling services for people.

4137
03:35:02,860 --> 03:35:05,420
They do counseling
services, therapy.

4138
03:35:05,420 --> 03:35:06,520
But yeah.

4139
03:35:06,520 --> 03:35:07,690
Med management.

4140
03:35:07,690 --> 03:35:09,510
Just do more Med management.

4141
03:35:09,510 --> 03:35:10,710
How much is in special parts.

4142
03:35:10,710 --> 03:35:13,370
Left just under 50.

4143
03:35:13,370 --> 03:35:14,870
Sorry that's good math.

4144
03:35:14,870 --> 03:35:15,970
Well, we were.

4145
03:35:15,970 --> 03:35:17,590
We're trying over here.

4146
03:35:17,590 --> 03:35:21,450
Yeah so 24,000 negative 85.

4147
03:35:21,450 --> 03:35:23,710
It's less than 50.

4148
03:35:23,710 --> 03:35:25,010
It's 30.

4149
03:35:25,010 --> 03:35:27,790
Parks has to be in the parks.

4150
03:35:27,790 --> 03:35:28,470
Special alcohol.

4151
03:35:28,470 --> 03:35:30,950
Yes, yes, special alcohol
has to be treatment.

4152
03:35:30,950 --> 03:35:32,910
Special parks has to
just be in the parks.

4153
03:35:32,910 --> 03:35:34,390
Yeah we don't have
any special parks.

4154
03:35:34,390 --> 03:35:35,190
That's what I'm asking.

4155
03:35:35,190 --> 03:35:35,830
Special parks.

4156
03:35:35,830 --> 03:35:37,010
Not special.

4157
03:35:37,010 --> 03:35:37,530
I'm sorry.

4158
03:35:37,530 --> 03:35:38,350
Special alcohol.

4159
03:35:38,350 --> 03:35:39,270
Giving numbers.

4160
03:35:39,270 --> 03:35:40,550
Special special alcohol.

4161
03:35:40,550 --> 03:35:41,850
Special alcohol.

4162
03:35:41,850 --> 03:35:43,350
What do you guys decide on.

4163
03:35:43,350 --> 03:35:45,210
Southwick southwick?

4164
03:35:45,210 --> 03:35:46,210
We haven't yet.

4165
03:35:46,210 --> 03:35:46,970
They're yellow.

4166
03:35:46,970 --> 03:35:53,930
Yellow the special
alcohol has $212,000.

4167
03:35:53,930 --> 03:35:56,770
The receipts come through
and then 85 of it's

4168
03:35:56,770 --> 03:35:57,750
going to crosswinds.

4169
03:35:57,750 --> 03:36:01,770
So crosswinds is already
on your expenditures.

4170
03:36:01,770 --> 03:36:05,570
She has 88 5.

4171
03:36:05,570 --> 03:36:08,450
Yeah crosswinds and ESU
are already on your sheet.

4172
03:36:08,450 --> 03:36:10,330
OK, so if there's nothing.

4173
03:36:10,330 --> 03:36:11,670
If Southwick's
not in there, then

4174
03:36:11,670 --> 03:36:13,850
there's 125 special alcohol.

4175
03:36:13,850 --> 03:36:16,950
So for 124, 153.

4176
03:36:16,950 --> 03:36:17,450
That one.

4177
03:36:17,450 --> 03:36:21,510
How much is in special park.

4178
03:36:21,510 --> 03:36:23,670
25,000 I don't know what.

4179
03:36:23,670 --> 03:36:26,090
But that's negative 15.

4180
03:36:26,090 --> 03:36:28,690
Negative 109 we don't
know what's in the 109.

4181
03:36:28,690 --> 03:36:29,530
Kevin, have a mower.

4182
03:36:29,530 --> 03:36:31,830
Usually Kevin has
mowers and stuff.

4183
03:36:31,830 --> 03:36:33,870
Janet is the 15
for the Municipal

4184
03:36:33,870 --> 03:36:35,390
Band and special parks.

4185
03:36:35,390 --> 03:36:35,890
Yes it is.

4186
03:36:35,890 --> 03:36:37,430
And that 109.

4187
03:36:37,430 --> 03:36:38,530
None of this other
stuff, though.

4188
03:36:38,530 --> 03:36:41,430
Then we have mowers
in there for 94,000.

4189
03:36:41,430 --> 03:36:42,410
For 94,000.

4190
03:36:42,410 --> 03:36:43,950
So we have 25 left.

4191
03:36:43,950 --> 03:36:44,810
Yeah correct.

4192
03:36:44,810 --> 03:36:45,410
That's the ending.

4193
03:36:45,410 --> 03:36:46,770
Balance is 25,000.

4194
03:36:46,770 --> 03:36:49,990
Yes so we don't necessarily
need ending balance there.

4195
03:36:49,990 --> 03:36:51,450
I mean we have COVID.

4196
03:36:51,450 --> 03:36:53,330
We're probably not doing
Municipal Band next year.

4197
03:36:53,330 --> 03:36:56,230
I mean, just the.

4198
03:36:56,230 --> 03:36:57,510
Play inside.

4199
03:36:57,510 --> 03:36:59,110
Outside yes.

4200
03:36:59,110 --> 03:37:00,530
The location of the parking.

4201
03:37:00,530 --> 03:37:02,010
Off street parking.

4202
03:37:02,010 --> 03:37:02,770
I mean, we could.

4203
03:37:02,770 --> 03:37:04,680
Yes it is.

4204
03:37:04,680 --> 03:37:06,220
I mean, if they wanted to.

4205
03:37:06,220 --> 03:37:08,560
I mean, we're getting
creative here.

4206
03:37:08,560 --> 03:37:12,440
I mean, if they wanted
to take that space

4207
03:37:12,440 --> 03:37:16,680
and deed it to
the city as and we

4208
03:37:16,680 --> 03:37:18,220
could call it part of the park.

4209
03:37:18,220 --> 03:37:21,400


4210
03:37:21,400 --> 03:37:23,600
Then you just have a
parking lot and then

4211
03:37:23,600 --> 03:37:25,280
you just said we're
maintaining it for the rest

4212
03:37:25,280 --> 03:37:26,580
of the city's life.

4213
03:37:26,580 --> 03:37:27,340
And that's very true.

4214
03:37:27,340 --> 03:37:29,360
I'm Could she OK.

4215
03:37:29,360 --> 03:37:31,400
Could she put up signs and say.

4216
03:37:31,400 --> 03:37:33,060
Or could we do a cross easement.

4217
03:37:33,060 --> 03:37:36,440
I guess the other thing
is access park parking.

4218
03:37:36,440 --> 03:37:39,240
We could do, what we did with.

4219
03:37:39,240 --> 03:37:43,540
Well, when it was the community
club, but we had the parking.

4220
03:37:43,540 --> 03:37:45,680
Is pickleball parking there.

4221
03:37:45,680 --> 03:37:47,020
We maintain that.

4222
03:37:47,020 --> 03:37:49,240
I mean, I'm sure if we have an
easement there, we'll probably

4223
03:37:49,240 --> 03:37:52,160
be asked to fix the
potholes in 10 or 15 years

4224
03:37:52,160 --> 03:37:56,140
when we get potholes,
but I don't know.

4225
03:37:56,140 --> 03:37:59,380
I mean, would that be an
MOU to do it with sos?

4226
03:37:59,380 --> 03:38:00,080
Sos?

4227
03:38:00,080 --> 03:38:01,040
yeah.

4228
03:38:01,040 --> 03:38:02,440
Who do we pay for
it out of parking,

4229
03:38:02,440 --> 03:38:03,800
though, or out of parks.

4230
03:38:03,800 --> 03:38:05,780
No, no, I don't think so.

4231
03:38:05,780 --> 03:38:08,620
That's a Sacred Heart.

4232
03:38:08,620 --> 03:38:09,280
Sacred Heart.

4233
03:38:09,280 --> 03:38:11,740
We gave them a license
agreement to build it.

4234
03:38:11,740 --> 03:38:14,940
OK I believe.

4235
03:38:14,940 --> 03:38:15,520
What did you.

4236
03:38:15,520 --> 03:38:17,920
That was we just had.

4237
03:38:17,920 --> 03:38:21,520
We did an easement so that
it's a joint parking lot city.

4238
03:38:21,520 --> 03:38:26,300
And I think on all
of these yellows,

4239
03:38:26,300 --> 03:38:29,380
I would encourage city staff
to work with the applicants

4240
03:38:29,380 --> 03:38:34,320
and let us think creatively
what we can do there.

4241
03:38:34,320 --> 03:38:36,680
OK trying.

4242
03:38:36,680 --> 03:38:41,380
But unless you come up with
something like the property is

4243
03:38:41,380 --> 03:38:44,080
like it goes down the Hill
and there's no parking there,

4244
03:38:44,080 --> 03:38:47,140
but right up the street, the
city has all that parking that's

4245
03:38:47,140 --> 03:38:49,660
already built. So there's
more opportunities

4246
03:38:49,660 --> 03:38:52,700
for more parking to be
built. Teresa, that's

4247
03:38:52,700 --> 03:38:54,420
not necessarily our property.

4248
03:38:54,420 --> 03:38:57,060
Yeah why don't Taylor and this.

4249
03:38:57,060 --> 03:39:00,630
If you can imagine,
this week's a little.

4250
03:39:00,630 --> 03:39:01,910
A little extra.

4251
03:39:01,910 --> 03:39:03,990
But if Taylor and I
and maybe Kevin Hamlin

4252
03:39:03,990 --> 03:39:06,990
can find time to come out and
visit with you guys on site

4253
03:39:06,990 --> 03:39:10,950
and walk in and just see if we
can do some creative thoughts.

4254
03:39:10,950 --> 03:39:12,270
OK OK.

4255
03:39:12,270 --> 03:39:13,050
Sounds good.

4256
03:39:13,050 --> 03:39:14,870
OK OK.

4257
03:39:14,870 --> 03:39:15,950
Thank you.

4258
03:39:15,950 --> 03:39:17,750
Sorry thank you.

4259
03:39:17,750 --> 03:39:18,690
Yeah thanks for.

4260
03:39:18,690 --> 03:39:20,590
It's been good to see you all.

4261
03:39:20,590 --> 03:39:22,190
Well, when they were
calling Mickey's name

4262
03:39:22,190 --> 03:39:25,750
and then you're sitting
there, I'm like, OK, is there.

4263
03:39:25,750 --> 03:39:27,330
I was like, she's really here.

4264
03:39:27,330 --> 03:39:29,370
OK yeah.

4265
03:39:29,370 --> 03:39:29,890
Thank you.

4266
03:39:29,890 --> 03:39:32,870


4267
03:39:32,870 --> 03:39:34,910
We're not done yet.

4268
03:39:34,910 --> 03:39:37,110
What else.

4269
03:39:37,110 --> 03:39:40,270
And while we did with Karen last
time is like, Karen, we cannot

4270
03:39:40,270 --> 03:39:41,410
build you a maintenance shed.

4271
03:39:41,410 --> 03:39:44,490
But we can sure help you
with your drainage system,

4272
03:39:44,490 --> 03:39:45,410
is what we did.

4273
03:39:45,410 --> 03:39:49,310
Do we want to say we can
do 100 and that takes that.

4274
03:39:49,310 --> 03:39:50,470
Do we have 100.

4275
03:39:50,470 --> 03:39:50,970
And what.

4276
03:39:50,970 --> 03:39:53,690
I mean, if we did 20, I
mean, because we said 125,

4277
03:39:53,690 --> 03:39:59,290
all we have left is
the maybe is Southwick.

4278
03:39:59,290 --> 03:40:00,250
What?

4279
03:40:00,250 --> 03:40:01,070
I think we all agree.

4280
03:40:01,070 --> 03:40:04,410
I don't know if eco devo is
going to be her table of HTC,

4281
03:40:04,410 --> 03:40:06,310
and they can come back
with the rest of them.

4282
03:40:06,310 --> 03:40:09,750
But in the meantime,
work towards 100 number.

4283
03:40:09,750 --> 03:40:12,110
Yeah get us there around
100 and see what we can do.

4284
03:40:12,110 --> 03:40:13,190
OK OK.

4285
03:40:13,190 --> 03:40:16,450
We're not promising it,
but it's a more doable.

4286
03:40:16,450 --> 03:40:20,890
Yeah do you want that in a
form like this or just an email

4287
03:40:20,890 --> 03:40:22,090
from Karen or Eugene.

4288
03:40:22,090 --> 03:40:23,850
I would highly.

4289
03:40:23,850 --> 03:40:24,470
Is it that.

4290
03:40:24,470 --> 03:40:27,390
And that's not the one for
ADA that you can't put ADA on.

4291
03:40:27,390 --> 03:40:28,830
I mean, eco devo we can do.

4292
03:40:28,830 --> 03:40:31,130
OK, I think we just have to.

4293
03:40:31,130 --> 03:40:34,630
You just have to show that
it's eco devo related.

4294
03:40:34,630 --> 03:40:37,230
The CDL is highly,
highly eco devo.

4295
03:40:37,230 --> 03:40:37,830
So yeah.

4296
03:40:37,830 --> 03:40:43,690
Yes if you're picking up what
I'm laying down, I'm absolutely.

4297
03:40:43,690 --> 03:40:47,050
And I think in this case, it's
not necessarily that we're

4298
03:40:47,050 --> 03:40:48,550
trying to justify it in a fund.

4299
03:40:48,550 --> 03:40:51,050
I think it's just the
limitation that we have on that.

4300
03:40:51,050 --> 03:40:53,530
So revise it to closer to 100.

4301
03:40:53,530 --> 03:40:54,670
Yeah, absolutely.

4302
03:40:54,670 --> 03:40:55,430
We can do that.

4303
03:40:55,430 --> 03:40:58,820
I mean the 71,000 last year
was really easy to say yes to.

4304
03:40:58,820 --> 03:41:02,540
257 is just it is a lot.

4305
03:41:02,540 --> 03:41:03,560
Yeah we just don't have it.

4306
03:41:03,560 --> 03:41:04,800
Yeah and still have something.

4307
03:41:04,800 --> 03:41:07,980
If we did if somebody wanted to
reactivate Tyson or something

4308
03:41:07,980 --> 03:41:09,500
like that.

4309
03:41:09,500 --> 03:41:12,340
Yeah Thank you very much.

4310
03:41:12,340 --> 03:41:12,840
Thank you.

4311
03:41:12,840 --> 03:41:14,840
Sorry you had to wait
forever for Kirk.

4312
03:41:14,840 --> 03:41:16,940
Goes to celebrate his
birthday somewhere else.

4313
03:41:16,940 --> 03:41:20,540
I think we should bump
up the transient guest

4314
03:41:20,540 --> 03:41:23,540
tax reserves a little bit.

4315
03:41:23,540 --> 03:41:28,060
Do we need reserves in
any of those other three.

4316
03:41:28,060 --> 03:41:30,980
We do.

4317
03:41:30,980 --> 03:41:32,580
And we don't have any.

4318
03:41:32,580 --> 03:41:35,140
Nothing but I think at all
times we should maintain

4319
03:41:35,140 --> 03:41:38,100
a half a million in that
fund with the caveat

4320
03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:41,480
that if we get the right
economic, we will spend it.

4321
03:41:41,480 --> 03:41:43,240
It's not for a rainy day.

4322
03:41:43,240 --> 03:41:44,400
It's Hopkins again.

4323
03:41:44,400 --> 03:41:46,840
And we can say, we
can use this for you.

4324
03:41:46,840 --> 03:41:50,520
Yes not for I say it's the
opposite of rainy day money.

4325
03:41:50,520 --> 03:41:53,720
It's a sunshine day if we
need it for sunshine day.

4326
03:41:53,720 --> 03:41:55,600
A special alcohol.

4327
03:41:55,600 --> 03:41:58,240
I mean, that goes to
crosswinds, I don't know.

4328
03:41:58,240 --> 03:42:01,460
For crosswinds, would they
don't have funding next year.

4329
03:42:01,460 --> 03:42:04,760
I don't know how
that impacts them.

4330
03:42:04,760 --> 03:42:08,940
And special alcohol is not
one that we have to spend.

4331
03:42:08,940 --> 03:42:11,500
No, I mean it has to
stay in that fund.

4332
03:42:11,500 --> 03:42:12,940
What about special
parks and rec.

4333
03:42:12,940 --> 03:42:14,100
Do we have to spend that.

4334
03:42:14,100 --> 03:42:15,380
No OK.

4335
03:42:15,380 --> 03:42:16,980
So those are fine being 0.

4336
03:42:16,980 --> 03:42:21,220
I just think we should up
transient guest tax reserve.

4337
03:42:21,220 --> 03:42:24,320
And I like half a
million on that.

4338
03:42:24,320 --> 03:42:26,840
Is that OK.

4339
03:42:26,840 --> 03:42:28,740
Do you guys agree or am I crazy.

4340
03:42:28,740 --> 03:42:32,180
What's your thinking
Well, I don't know.

4341
03:42:32,180 --> 03:42:33,500
I'd be fine with half.

4342
03:42:33,500 --> 03:42:34,960
No, it's late in the half.

4343
03:42:34,960 --> 03:42:38,760
I mean, I'd be OK with
going up to 500 on that one.

4344
03:42:38,760 --> 03:42:43,160
Having 500 in reserves for TGT.

4345
03:42:43,160 --> 03:42:45,780
Because again, what if
something big comes up.

4346
03:42:45,780 --> 03:42:46,840
Well that's TGT.

4347
03:42:46,840 --> 03:42:47,880
You have to be an investor.

4348
03:42:47,880 --> 03:42:49,320
If you get a big visitor.

4349
03:42:49,320 --> 03:42:55,210
Yeah what if somebody wants
to put together Taylor Swift's

4350
03:42:55,210 --> 03:42:57,290
amusement amusement park.

4351
03:42:57,290 --> 03:43:00,530
Hey, if Taylor will
sign on for 13 events,

4352
03:43:00,530 --> 03:43:03,810
I'm going to use 13, because
that's the Taylor network.

4353
03:43:03,810 --> 03:43:07,530
I know that that's
a problem, but maybe

4354
03:43:07,530 --> 03:43:10,310
that's a discussion for a little
bit farther down the road.

4355
03:43:10,310 --> 03:43:13,230
After we've set this budget,
how much we really have over.

4356
03:43:13,230 --> 03:43:14,270
Did that feel comfortable.

4357
03:43:14,270 --> 03:43:17,650
Should can we say we
should have somebody stab.

4358
03:43:17,650 --> 03:43:18,970
13 is the number.

4359
03:43:18,970 --> 03:43:19,870
We don't even have to vote.

4360
03:43:19,870 --> 03:43:21,910
We can just agree
to keep it in there.

4361
03:43:21,910 --> 03:43:22,950
You guys agree with that.

4362
03:43:22,950 --> 03:43:24,290
That's what I'm asking.

4363
03:43:24,290 --> 03:43:28,210
Essentially we have 1.5
million right now in reserves,

4364
03:43:28,210 --> 03:43:32,250
but we'll spend it on some
things I know coming up.

4365
03:43:32,250 --> 03:43:33,670
Can we have that at
the next meeting.

4366
03:43:33,670 --> 03:43:35,070
That's not going
to be this long.

4367
03:43:35,070 --> 03:43:35,930
Yeah, that's fine.

4368
03:43:35,930 --> 03:43:37,850
And we still got executive
session a third 30

4369
03:43:37,850 --> 03:43:39,270
minute executive session.

4370
03:43:39,270 --> 03:43:41,590
Yeah your original
Friday email said no,

4371
03:43:41,590 --> 03:43:43,770
we didn't have it
was a certain member

4372
03:43:43,770 --> 03:43:45,150
of the commission requested it.

4373
03:43:45,150 --> 03:43:45,870
Which one.

4374
03:43:45,870 --> 03:43:46,590
A couple of them.

4375
03:43:46,590 --> 03:43:48,690
The one that sits in the chair
at the head of the table.

4376
03:43:48,690 --> 03:43:50,430
Yes, yes.

4377
03:43:50,430 --> 03:43:51,290
Just checking.

4378
03:43:51,290 --> 03:43:54,470
Well, I also thought we'd be
done, like at 1:30, not 230.

4379
03:43:54,470 --> 03:43:55,010
I don't.

4380
03:43:55,010 --> 03:43:55,850
How long do you guys.

4381
03:43:55,850 --> 03:43:56,630
I mean, 230.

4382
03:43:56,630 --> 03:43:57,770
30 minutes.

4383
03:43:57,770 --> 03:44:01,110
Fine I have a cake
down there for me.

4384
03:44:01,110 --> 03:44:03,550
Yeah, it's a surprise.

4385
03:44:03,550 --> 03:44:05,010
OK, then I'm OK with that.

4386
03:44:05,010 --> 03:44:06,830
Are we going downstairs.

4387
03:44:06,830 --> 03:44:07,610
Go downstairs.

4388
03:44:07,610 --> 03:44:08,110
So do we.

4389
03:44:08,110 --> 03:44:08,810
Are we going to stay.

4390
03:44:08,810 --> 03:44:10,550
Is there anybody we can.

4391
03:44:10,550 --> 03:44:11,710
We can stay here.

4392
03:44:11,710 --> 03:44:14,030
No we have.

4393
03:44:14,030 --> 03:44:16,610
Well and Eric has problems.

4394
03:44:16,610 --> 03:44:17,310
I don't know.

4395
03:44:17,310 --> 03:44:21,870
Yeah so do I have a motion to
adjourn to executive session to.

4396
03:44:21,870 --> 03:44:24,850
Yeah, but I'll make a motion
to recess into executive.

4397
03:44:24,850 --> 03:44:25,870
Yeah that's it.

4398
03:44:25,870 --> 03:44:29,650
Second 20 minutes 20
minutes, 30 minutes.

4399
03:44:29,650 --> 03:44:31,170
Because everybody wanders away.

4400
03:44:31,170 --> 03:44:34,090
Goes to the bathroom before we
get in there for 30 minutes.

4401
03:44:34,090 --> 03:44:35,050
For 30 minutes.

4402
03:44:35,050 --> 03:44:36,870
As soon as everybody
gets in the room.

4403
03:44:36,870 --> 03:44:37,450
How about this.

4404
03:44:37,450 --> 03:44:38,870
Yeah, we can't do that.

4405
03:44:38,870 --> 03:44:40,790
Permanent city staff to
discuss confidential data

4406
03:44:40,790 --> 03:44:43,630
with third party relating
to the justification

4407
03:44:43,630 --> 03:44:46,050
for the executive session
is provided by KSA.

4408
03:44:46,050 --> 03:44:48,780
754319 1934.

4409
03:44:48,780 --> 03:44:50,340
To protect financial
affairs and trade,

4410
03:44:50,340 --> 03:44:54,200
secrets of third parties will
resume in the city commission

4411
03:44:54,200 --> 03:45:01,840
chamber at approximately
3:10 PM and inviting

4412
03:45:01,840 --> 03:45:05,920
members of RDA and Main
Street or representatives

4413
03:45:05,920 --> 03:45:07,800
from Main Street.

4414
03:45:07,800 --> 03:45:09,340
Second second.

4415
03:45:09,340 --> 03:45:11,160
Second All in favor, say Aye.

4416
03:45:11,160 --> 04:17:58,550
Aye in a session with
nothing to be decided.

4417
04:17:58,550 --> 04:17:59,930
No action to be taken.

4418
04:17:59,930 --> 04:18:01,250
Do I have a motion to adjourn.

4419
04:18:01,250 --> 04:18:01,970
So moved.

4420
04:18:01,970 --> 04:18:02,950
Second Motion.

4421
04:18:02,950 --> 04:18:04,050
Second and we all.

4422
04:18:04,050 --> 04:18:06,430
Aye Aye.

4423
04:18:06,430 --> 04:18:08,260
Any opposed.

4424
04:18:08,260 --> 04:18:44,000