[0:02] [music]
[0:14] All right. 6:32 call the meeting to
order.
[0:18] Any modifications or changes to the
agenda?
[0:22] I don't have any.
>> Any members of the public that wish to
[0:27] comment that aren't on the agenda?
Um,
[0:31] I have been curious about I live on
senior housing and I've seen some
[0:38] mirrors in corners where people can't
see coming out of streets and I wondered
[0:42] when they've been considered near the
old phone building or whatever that's
[0:47] right there at the end of school street
in Maine. And now the school's going to
[0:52] begin and I said, "Oh, car's going to
park there." It's like kind of hard to
[0:55] see out sometimes. That's my for the
night.
[0:59] » It's definitely worth considering
>> something to make it a little bit easier
[1:02] to see pulling out of there.
>> It's pulling off from school onto Maine.
[1:06] » Onto Maine. Yep. Turn left or right
>> and to be able to see around
[1:11] » when there's cars in front of the
bumblebee.
[1:13] » The bumblebees got traffic and parking
cars going through and park.
[1:17] » I don't come off that street very often.
So
[1:20] » I avoid doing that.
>> I'll have to truck through. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:26] Thank you. That's a good idea. I thought
this similar about um Pleasant and Depot
[1:32] like the Bates building because again
it's kind of hard to see around.
[1:36] » There's one there's one tree in the
yard. That does make it a very short
[1:39] growing apple tree.
>> Yeah.
[1:44] » Okay.
>> All right. Next up, review and approve
[1:48] minutes for July 28, 2026.
So, everybody had a chance to look those
[1:54] over.
[2:01] » I looked them over and I approve them.
>> All right.
[2:05] » The motion to approve.
>> Motion to approve has been made. Is
[2:08] there a second?
>> Second.
[2:11] » Second by Heather. Any further
discussion?
[2:14] » All those in favor? I
>> I opposed. So moved.
[2:22] Next up, review and approve bids for the
2014 electric service truck.
[2:28] Um, we have two bids.
See them there.
[2:43] Looks Yeah, we had two bids. One for
156671
[2:48] and one for $2,669.
[2:53] » Sounds to me like we probably should
take the higher volume, but
[2:57] » is that value?
>> I think that's more than enough.
[3:01] » Okay.
>> Yeah, I think the 2,000 is
[3:05] » Okay.
Okay.
[3:09] Need
>> a motion for that. Can we take a motion
[3:11] to accept the $2,669
bid?
[3:14] » Make the motion.
>> All second. Moved and seconded. Any
[3:18] further discussion? All those in favor?
I
[3:21] » I opposed. So no.
[clears throat] Next up, review bid
[3:27] estimates for grant vegetation
management estimated 8,900 ft.
[3:33] So, we have um we put the bid opening up
at the end of last Friday. We had four
[3:38] bids in um all fairly similar, I think.
Um
[3:46] they actually all came in lower than I
expected. We're going to add some more
[3:49] footage to this. Um
but you have the four bids there. Um
[3:59] I can speak to any of them I think if
you need me to.
[4:03] Uh on a limb tree service parent you
haven't
[4:08] I think we ever used them but we'd asked
and he was not at first he seemed like
[4:14] he wasn't comfortable working on live
power. Um but you know we put it out
[4:21] this would be and
Allan talked to him and didn't seem to
[4:24] be a problem. Um Jordan we use cold
hollow cold holo something they call it.
[4:31] Um
you know we use him yearly for about a
[4:37] mile tree trimming and vegetation
management. Yeah.
[4:41] » Um Larvy we've never used. Um
I don't really know too much about their
[4:49] I guess tree trimming abilities. Um if
they've ever done it around live wire. I
[4:54] don't know that. Um
Eustace uh we just hired them this past
[5:00] winter. They did a um a few miles on um
>> Pearly Road.
[5:08] » Um they did a good job. They worked
pretty well. Work right through the
[5:13] cold.
Um, I put the start date next week or
[5:17] the week after and they have at the end
of the year. Um, and again, we're just
[5:22] trying to we have a grid grant meeting
tomorrow. Um,
[5:27] this is all through the grid grant, so
we should be able to increase these
[5:30] miles. Um, we'll probably balance it out
because we have to do so many miles per
[5:34] year for vegetation management
with the 8,900 ft. We'll probably be
[5:38] pretty close this year to what we need
to be. We can always move that to next
[5:43] year. We don't have to spend that money
by the end of this year by any means.
[5:46] So, um,
[5:51] so that's that's where it's at. Um,
they're all pretty low. I've never used
[5:57] this, so that one's new to me. They are
um um they do more cable and fiber. They
[6:05] run a lot of cable and fiber for gas
home companies. do a lot of construction
[6:08] for those types of companies, not power.
>> Seen the trucks around.
[6:14] » Yeah. Last I mean, they just started
their tree trimming. They hired a guy. I
[6:18] don't um it seemed like he definitely
knew what he was talking about and he's
[6:22] done. He's that's what he did his prior
life. So, they kind of started this new
[6:27] division as far as tree trimming was
concerned before palies of home
[6:31] companies. Um like I said, we hired them
to try them out, but they did a good
[6:36] job.
[6:40] And is this going to be like this will
be
[6:44] on roads, off road? The areas we have
right now are stone um stone house road.
[6:52] » Mhm. That's a main line that feeds all
the way up through it kind of
[6:57] » post and all that.
>> Yeah. It feeds a big territory. We have
[7:00] a big phase that goes up there. So yeah,
basically from the carpenter farm all
[7:04] the way up to Boston Post. There's some
sections in there we're not doing, but a
[7:07] majority of that. Uh the corner of
Boston Post and Nicholls Road down about
[7:14] 1,600 ft. We're going to have them do
that. And then we're going to have them
[7:19] do um there's a section on um
on U Joy Road that's very thick. We're
[7:26] going to have him do that for starters.
Then we may add on this
[7:31] basic fit. Those are three areas we're
going to hit. I mean, there's more areas
[7:35] we could definitely do. All of Nichols
Road pretty much needs to be hit, but
[7:39] again,
to try to hit the best bang for your
[7:43] buck, homes,
>> right,
[7:47] » I think I all the [snorts] guys, we all
agreed kind of Stonehouse starting there
[7:51] and working our way out.
>> So, were you happy with uh Jordan St.
[7:55] Pierre?
>> Uh, yeah, we never I mean, we never had
[8:00] an issue with his work by any means. Um,
>> and he does some every year.
[8:05] » He does. Yeah, he does it every year.
And you know, we've called him during
[8:08] storms and he's stopped what he's doing
and gone and helped no matter what time,
[8:14] night, or whatever.
>> Has all the right insuranceances.
[8:16] » Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No. Yeah. Anybody would
have to send in their
[8:20] » COI in there.
>> I feel we we should keep it local. Yep.
[8:26] » I'm not for keeping it local, Jordan.
>> Yeah.
[8:34] Somebody's got to move on it.
>> So, would the um motion be to include
[8:40] additional
footage up until a certain amount or
[8:45] would we just be approving this budget
number?
[8:48] » Um
we could probably approve this one and
[8:52] then yeah, in the next meeting I'll
probably look to add more if we need to
[8:55] or if I need to come back I will. Okay.
Um, would they have to bid again?
[9:01] » I don't think so, cuz once we once we
have somebody working, then you can add
[9:06] on.
>> Yeah,
[9:09] » that's kind of why I was wondering if
you wanted to give like another boost
[9:12] because then you can make a
>> an adjustment without coming back to us.
[9:16] » I mean, if you want to add that in
there, you can add in, you know,
[9:19] accepting this bid and then additional
footage if needed or as needed.
[9:26] » Yeah. Yeah. What do we have a cap?
>> What's our budget?
[9:30] » Yeah,
>> we got to find out tomorrow. It's It's
[9:33] We have some money to spend. It's
probably like 150,000.
[9:36] » Okay. So, we're well under
>> Well under.
[9:39] » Yeah.
>> So,
[9:42] what would be a reasonable amount to
just
[9:45] do? How many feet do you think you want
to add?
[9:49] » Um, I can go grab
>> half an idea.
[9:51] » I would do Nicholls Road, which I think
was 6,500.
[9:55] So
>> probably if we say no more than double
[9:59] » Yep.
>> the bid amount, we should be covered.
[10:02] » 60,000,
>> right? Basically make it an even number.
[10:05] » Yeah. 60,000. And then if it ends up
being something different, then come to
[10:08] us
>> and we can come back now.
[10:10] » Yeah. Um so I'll make the motion to
accept the bid from Jordan St. Pierre uh
[10:14] capping it with adjustments at uh
$60,000.
[10:19] » Motion has been made. Is there a second?
I'll second.
[10:23] » All right. Any further discussion?
All those in favor? I
[10:28] » I opposed.
So moved.
[10:32] » I wasn't worried I didn't come back
again. The only timeline we have with
[10:35] the grid grant, it's not really the grid
grant per se. It's the vegetation
[10:39] manager. I want to kind know how much we
can get done, right?
[10:41] » Our crew hours they're done. We don't
need to do anymore. If we can get all
[10:44] this in here for this year, that's only
time. I can always come back if
[10:50] through the grant ask for more.
[10:56] I I missed something on modifications
and changes to agenda.
[11:01] Unless it's on a different page. Never
mind. This page I'm good. Okay.
[11:08] All right. So, next up, wastewater water
allocation request for 102 street.
[11:19] Um just I think they're just adding a
the unit on the at 102. Um, waste water
[11:26] doesn't see any issues.
[11:37] Well, it's good with me if it's good
with them.
[11:44] So, we'll take a motion to approve the
wastewater water allocation request for
[11:48] 102 streets.
[11:55] Yes.
>> You want to move?
[11:58] » All right. Leonard moved. Is there a
second?
[12:01] » I'll second.
>> Excuse me. Moved and seconded. Is there
[12:04] any further discussion? All those in
favor? I
[12:08] » I opposed. So move.
Next up, review and make a motion on
[12:15] water allocation findings.
So,
[12:20] take a minute to read through that if
you haven't already. That first page.
[12:28] » Yeah.
>> And Caroline said she also speak to
[12:31] » Yeah.
[12:43] Any
[12:58] questions so far, ma'am?
>> No, I'm
[13:03] very busy.
>> Taking it all in.
[13:06] » What it means?
It's not my job.
[13:11] » We'd be glad to have you.
[13:25] So it sounds looks like from years ago
some money should have been moved that
[13:28] was never removed
that we're gathering.
[13:32] » Yeah. So it's it's kind of more a
technical, you know, we need approval to
[13:39] um so we got advice from um KBS and the
auditors on how to handle this where it
[13:46] should have move been moved all those
years and when it's moved is supposed to
[13:50] be used for these purposes. So it kind
of was used for these purposes through
[13:54] the years. It's just the technical
moving
[13:58] and getting the approval to move back
and forth didn't happen. So, we're
[14:03] getting it now to document that um Lor's
findings are correct and that we have
[14:11] the approval to do what we should have
done. Did that make sense? Yes. Okay,
[14:16] great. Thank you.
[14:44] We definitely have plenty of projects,
emergency repairs.
[14:47] » Yes.
>> So, she was very thorough. Lori was very
[14:51] thorough in pulling out all the, you
know, the past documents showing, you
[14:56] know, those expenses
um
[15:00] qualified.
[15:13] It looks like we have the documentation
to back this up.
[15:18] So, Makes sense.
[17:06] Oh, shoot.
[17:52] » [snorts]
[18:18] » Well, I guess it couldn't
is what it is. It's It's in the past.
[18:22] So, I just we need to know what motion
to make to clear it all up.
[18:27] » Looks like Lori kind of laid it out for
us.
[18:32] » Um
make a retroactive motion acknowledging
[18:36] that the water allocation fees collected
during that period were expended on
[18:39] qualifying water department capital
maintenance emergency or expansion
[18:43] related costs in accordance with the
intent of the ordinance.
[18:50] That sounds good to me if somebody wants
to move on it.
[18:54] » I will make that retroactive motion.
>> All right, motion's on the table. Is
[19:00] there a second?
I'll second.
[19:03] Move and seconded. Is there any further
discussion?
[19:08] Those in favor? I
>> I opposed.
[19:11] So moved.
Next up, joint meeting date 10:5 or
[19:17] 10:19. Thoughts on agenda items?
Policing, trash ordinance, bridge 50.
[19:23] » Um, [snorts] we kind of went over this
once already. Uh, we had to postpone it.
[19:26] Um,
so I don't know if I mean that's what we
[19:30] had on the agenda last time for
thoughts. I didn't know if anybody can't
[19:34] come up with anything different or new.
If not, then I'll close that back
[19:39] to Joe. And they're obviously both
Mondays. That fifth and
[19:45] » is that their regular meeting night?
>> I think so. Yeah, the fifth would work
[19:50] better for me. I think I might be gone
on the 19th,
[19:54] but then [snorts] again, I'm have to be
here.
[19:58] » Think I make both days, but the 19th is
preferable for me.
[20:04] » At least one half a dozen the other for
me. I don't care.
[20:08] » How about you?
You're retired. You're doing nothing.
[20:12] [laughter]
You won't be mowing along.
[20:16] It's
>> just Yeah, that's
[20:17] » You never know.
>> Wait a minute. Isn't that
[20:28] » I guess if the fifth's better for Jason,
I can do either. You can
[20:32] » I can make it work. I just early morning
the next day. That's fine.
[20:37] So, I guess we'll shoot for the fifth.
>> I will confirm what days I will be on.
[20:43] » We'll shoot for it. We got a couple
months, we can
[20:46] » if we can adjust back for a little for
sure.
[20:48] » Those were the like the the um select
board said those two dates worked.
[20:53] » That's what Billy Joe Yeah. throughout.
>> And we heard uh Dave said one way or the
[20:58] other.
>> I haven't heard anything either from
[21:00] Dave.
>> Okay. Okay.
[21:03] » Yeah. I didn't ask him a date on that.
[21:08] I guess if we think of agenda items as
we get closer
[21:12] fill in the agenda.
>> Yep. No, I can. Yeah, we can definitely
[21:18] » All right. Uh number nine, Fire
Department's annual coin drop request.
[21:24] » Uh same day as Harvest Fest. Um I guess
they do it every year. Um,
[21:30] they bring all their phones and yellow
jackets and stuff, high viz stuff.
[21:38] » Uh, it's 20 20th
>> 19
[21:41] » 19th
>> Saturday
[21:43] » 19th of September.
>> September.
[21:47] » From 9 to 2.
>> From 9 to 2. Thank you.
[21:53] » Make a motion to approve that. It's kind
of good event every year.
[21:58] » All right.
>> Second.
[21:59] » Motion has been made and second. Any
further discussion?
[22:02] » What are they used to?
>> It goes to their nonprofit.
[22:11] » They have a I believe a 501c3
set up.
[22:16] [snorts]
>> Thank you.
[22:18] » Yep.
>> Uh all those in favor? I
[22:22] » I
>> opposed.
[22:24] So moved
>> on that. I don't I mean bring up other
[22:30] business too. Um
I don't know if the village wants to do
[22:34] something done open houses. I don't know
if we can pull something together before
[22:38] then but couple as two 250th
>> anniversary if we're going to do
[22:46] something. I don't know. I I don't know
if it would be village or if it'd be
[22:51] I just think if that would be a time
that would be the day or that night
[22:54] afterwards, but I don't know
what that look like.
[23:00] » I have no idea. I just I've been asked a
couple times just throw it out there.
[23:03] Maybe I want to brainstorm quickly and
think
[23:06] » much time.
>> Yeah. The standard park len parks
[23:10] decorated and that's a good idea.
>> Yep. I mean, we could decorate a little
[23:16] bit more. I We usually put corn stalks
out and stuff or harvest fat. You know,
[23:20] it's usually hay bales and stuff over
there, but
[23:24] um
but if you wanted to get more more flags
[23:28] or more
>> so that would happen.
[23:30] » It's like a 250
if like feel like it's a Fourth of July
[23:35] celebration is kind of what
>> that's kind of where I was at with it,
[23:38] » but we're months past that.
>> Well, I guess that's the [snorts]
[23:43] remark. Yeah, I think majority of people
did it on July 4th or villages or towns
[23:47] or whatever. We
>> but supposedly there's been others like
[23:50] off. We don't normally the other towns
around us do a lot and really pull a lot
[23:54] of resources and people if we tried to
we didn't we could have maybe done
[23:58] something but
[24:07] » so everywhere
[24:15] » um
[24:19] something to think Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe he's just adding some more.
[24:23] We buy a few more flags, put in the park
for that.
[24:25] » Maybe just some straight American flags
cuz I don't know that we get customized
[24:28] flags in that amount of time.
>> The other ones came pretty quick. I
[24:32] don't know if they're sold out. I don't
know that.
[24:34] » I don't know either.
>> So,
[24:38] I'm just trying to think of the events
that they normally have at Harvest Fest
[24:42] besides the vendors.
Um,
[24:48] just trying to remember what they do
where something that we could add to it
[24:54] would benefit and and add
>> I don't think they have it other than
[24:58] the music. I don't think they have like
other events. I mean, it's just it's a
[25:02] market
>> cuz they don't even do the wine thing
[25:04] anymore. That's how it started, right? I
don't think they do that anymore cuz
[25:07] [snorts] they haven't given me a permit
I think last year or two. Yeah, I think
[25:11] just they just had some vendors selling
some wine at one point.
[25:15] » Yes.
>> Yeah.
[25:16] » But the library has children's
activities, I think, too.
[25:19] » I do believe so. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[25:21] » But how about a birthday cake for the
country? Maybe something on the park at
[25:25] that.
>> That's a great idea.
[25:26] » A doable. It'll be decorated. I mean,
take a picture. It's
[25:31] » maybe a local baker if you do.
>> I'm not in charge.
[25:38] » But that's a good idea. Yeah. Maybe the
village has a booth or um the or whoever
[25:44] you could have the info booth
>> or something and people could come for a
[25:47] birthday cake.
>> Yeah, that's great.
[25:52] » Yeah.
>> You want me looking for flags or
[25:57] » you can check the delivery time?
>> I think Jerry should give ice cream with
[26:01] the cake. [laughter]
[26:07] » They do the dairy fast. Yeah.
>> Your job to find a freezer now,
[26:12] » huh? It's
>> your job to find a freezer now.
[26:15] » I have a big stand up freezer I'm not
using.
[26:17] » I think they brought up a whole truck
last time.
[26:20] » They just parked it over there full of
ice cream with a reaper.
[26:24] » Okay.
[26:29] » Some good some good ideas.
>> All right.
[26:34] Think Allen's on deck for this next one.
Kendall will discuss hydro options.
[26:39] » Um, yeah, Alan's here to help
advise where we're at.
[26:46] » This one,
>> there's there's some in the pack and
[26:49] then that one just came today. So,
>> um,
[26:51] » that goes with that, though.
>> It goes with it. So, basically, we have
[26:56] three options. I'm going to put the side
tonight, but we're going to decide kind
[26:59] of quickly. And then you want more
informative where we're at and where
[27:03] some Dawn numbers were at. So, I don't
even know here. Alan, do you have this
[27:07] one? I don't know if you saw this. This
came in like at 3:00. I saw it earlier.
[27:12] Um,
so Alan probably I'll I'll tee it up and
[27:17] Allan can probably be a little more
technical if he wants and if you have
[27:21] questions, but basically we have three
options we're looking at. So, the
[27:25] Kendall went down um a couple months
ago. We did have uh Fairbanks come and
[27:32] they pulled it out. They brought it back
to their shop and then took it apart and
[27:37] brought part of it to a different shop.
Um I believe we're about 18,000
[27:45] into that.
>> 17.
[27:47] » Yeah. So 17 to 18,000 just to have it
pulled and looked at. So basically we
[27:53] have three options. We we did do a
measurement and looked at a new unit
[28:00] and those came back around 800,000.
So, they're not giving those away.
[28:06] Um, how old is this one?
>> 45
[28:14] years.
>> But the problem with this is this they
[28:19] don't make them anymore. So, you're
getting married.
[28:21] » That's what I was wondering. uh one
individual tire that we need to replace
[28:28] was 65
65.
[28:36] So
[28:40] um but so so the three options is the
new one. The second option is what I the
[28:45] actual the Fairbanks one
that came in about 100,000. That's to
[28:50] repair it back to its current state the
way it was. And again, now I'll be more
[28:57] technical current state the way it was
when it was working.
[29:00] » When it was working, not working.
[laughter]
[29:05] Um,
you want to speak to the blades and the
[29:09] and what it what that means by current
state or
[29:13] » the state it was before it was broken.
>> The way this operates now, you got three
[29:18] hydraulic plates down here. You got to
raise the lower
[29:21] line.
>> So when
[29:26] we can actually lower the plates to
adjust to
[29:31] so we're not totally shutting it down.
So we can still have the flow more over
[29:34] the dam.
So that's
[29:39] reason why we like the other option was
what we're getting to. They they're
[29:43] suggesting put the blades in a fixed
position
[29:47] » and run the
>> water level
[29:52] » water level with the head gates. And
that's not the way that's really set up,
[29:58] » right? cuz that stops completely if we
sit.
[30:05] » Yeah, gates are designed
>> to adjust the bypass flow, but they're
[30:11] gates are just made to protect if
needed, right?
[30:15] » It's the blades hydraulics that were
more designed.
[30:18] » So that could add extra stress on the
gates,
[30:21] » right? So you have to go up there and
adjust it. So say
[30:26] that particular Gary Dar has got like a
CS week. So it lowers El time.
[30:33] So say somebody's not there to babysit
me 24/7
[30:37] to accommodate for the river elevation
and you go home at night, come back in.
[30:44] So there's kind of a gray area there.
Not not really thoroughly convinced that
[30:50] that's the right way to go with that.
>> Mhm.
[30:53] » Cuz they say they can do it, but cuz
you're going to be starting it up
[30:59] with it full open, which is not normal
for it.
[31:04] And when you get your adjusting your
hertz to bring it online, you're going
[31:09] to be more load
stress to the electrical end of things
[31:14] for it.
So that's kind of like
[31:20] it'll work, but it's not ideal.
>> The only positive that is it be the
[31:25] quick fix couple months
always.
[31:31] » Okay, it be quick fixing and
>> that's for 100.
[31:35] » No,
they give us price on that. I thought
[31:38] they had
>> I didn't see it in here.
[31:44] They did.
[31:47] For some reason, I thought it was like
20,000 or something like that.
[31:51] » Put it Put it back together and put it
back in fix.
[31:56] » Yeah, cuz they're not really doing
anything. Basically, just take leave the
[31:59] parts off they took off and just put our
blade back on and throw them back in the
[32:03] hole.
[32:07] and no real way of
adjusting it.
[32:13] And that's one of the main factors that
lights down the
[32:21] not so that got loose when it dropped
the shaft so they got water into the
[32:27] oil.
So it was compromised
[32:31] between this
uh
[32:36] $1,000 manifold manifold.
>> I had to struggle with that.
[32:42] » Just a turbine with a blade. I don't
know. I can't see how stuff is that
[32:46] much. But
so with the if we do the $100,000
[32:52] repair,
you think we get 10 years out of it? You
[32:55] think we'll get a year out of it? like
hard telling not knowing,
[32:59] » right? I mean,
>> is the rest of the unit in real bad
[33:03] shape
>> the way it huh?
[33:05] » Is the rest of the unit in horrible
shape?
[33:07] » Yeah, it's not too too bad. You know, it
says some in the water and stuff. It
[33:12] gets debris in here. You know, blades
get damaged, so on and so forth.
[33:17] » What do you mean the new one's going to
get that?
[33:19] » Well,
it's kind of a different setup.
[33:24] So, I know it's a lot more money. I
don't know if you want to explore this,
[33:27] but
if you take a look inside that turbine,
[33:31] there's a flat blade that's 6t diameter,
right? That's a hole that's about 20 ft
[33:37] deep.
So, they're suggesting put the generator
[33:41] head on top
with a shaft down there. No hydraulics
[33:48] up there, but you still can adjust it up
top
[33:54] » like a winch or something or
>> Yeah, you can run it with, you know, it
[34:00] would be an auto. You can adjust it
right up top. You know what I'm saying?
[34:04] » But all hydraulics would be on the top
versus
[34:08] one shaft. It just all be shaft and the
blades, right?
[34:13] It's a lot more money for that. But I
feel that you can do what you want. Put
[34:20] this back assembly and budgeted for
something a little bit more efficient. I
[34:26] mean, it was this one company that went
through that suggested that. I kind of
[34:30] like the idea, but it's a lot of money
for what it produces,
[34:36] » right?
>> You got to look at that.
[34:38] » Would we see any sort of increase in
production
[34:41] » with a new unit? be a little bit more
efficient.
[34:44] » See a little increase.
>> Again, we got to watch that end of
[34:47] things cuz we aren't licensed to operate
so much.
[34:50] » Well, again, I mean, we're in our FK
license. We notify that it's down. We
[34:56] notify FK that it's down and that,
you know, we don't know what we put back
[35:01] in there. So, we don't know what we're
going to do. So we may be we're trying
[35:05] to adjust our going after the license
not knowing as opposed to finishing the
[35:13] license which wasn't going to happen
anyway and then amending asking for
[35:17] amendment come back and say well now
this unit can produce 400 AW
[35:22] 300. Um so we we have leeway with FK.
It's not like it's a done deal.
[35:33] Again, we don't have to decide that
tonight. I'm just trying to keep in the
[35:35] loop and we're trying to unless I unless
you're like, "No, let's throw the other
[35:40] the quick fix in. Let's get it back in
the hole." Other than that, I mean,
[35:46] through it.
>> I would.
[35:48] » Any idea how much we're losing per day
it's down?
[35:51] » We did that calculation.
>> Um,
[35:57] » I can go
>> I can't go get that. You say you
[36:00] overload the system if we're the way
that they want to operate it like that.
[36:04] Like I would hate to cause issues to a
station because we're putting too much
[36:10] power in or
>> to me there's a lot of ger that they're
[36:13] saying that it can be done that way,
>> right?
[36:17] » I'm not terribly
that's the right way to go.
[36:21] » I mean there's
>> their engineers are saying it it would
[36:25] work that way. This is another uh
[snorts] outfit that uh
[36:30] ATS for guys that work on that kind of
stuff that we hire out and fire banks
[36:38] which actually
works on audio itself
[36:43] that we hire out when we can't do it.
[36:50] Um,
>> I mean, if you want to explore that
[36:52] option more, we can
get a little bit more info out of it. We
[36:57] just
>> I mean, I would say probably at least
[37:00] $15,000 a month past couple months,
>> but more in the spring,
[37:06] » right?
>> You lose a lot almost double.
[37:09] » Yeah. For the year.
>> Yeah. So, I think Didn't we do wasn't
[37:13] 125 a year?
>> Yeah. average you make, but there's
[37:17] certain times of the year you make a lot
more and right now it's the low time of
[37:22] year.
>> Mhm.
[37:24] » But pretty soon it won't be.
>> So I mean does that come back towards
[37:27] like I mean
>> yeah the killer too is right now we're
[37:30] losing tier two racks.
>> So that wasn't including the racks right
[37:35] cost to us.
>> And what's the time estimate on the back
[37:39] till the way it was?
>> I don't know that in there. I don't
[37:44] think you put it in there for
>> repairing it back to the way
[37:48] » that was.
>> Yeah, I don't think that's all right
[37:53] cuz we're losing 100,000 or 125 plus a
year. It cost 100,000 to get it fixed if
[37:58] they can get it in 3 months and you use
it for 2 years. It gives you time to
[38:04] budge it in. maybe doing a newer
replacement or maybe I know you can't
[38:09] put money aside for it but
>> they might
[38:12] » planning ahead.
>> They might allow us now to put reserves.
[38:16] » Okay.
>> Um when we're going for a rate case they
[38:19] said that now uh new administration have
>> realized that you really need reserves
[38:26] to cover emergency.
Yeah.
[38:29] » So the new administration is going to
allow us to put reserves aside which is
[38:33] a good thing. Right. Which would help,
you know, like you said, if you get a
[38:38] couple years out of that and then you
can start budgeting in and maybe
[38:42] » do a repair of that as well as well.
Does this do anything with the
[38:46] historical
>> end of it?
[38:49] » The building the building is historical
part.
[38:51] » Okay.
[38:56] » Okay.
>> We can follow up on that question. I
[38:58] mean, I'm guessing it's
>> I wouldn't think it'd be too far off the
[39:01] three months that they
I recommended norming the um quick fix.
[39:08] Sorry.
Uh right. They did say that manifold
[39:14] which is busted. They got all black. I
can remember them saying that's like
[39:20] a year
to get that.
[39:22] » Oh, really?
[39:26] » Or what's this man going to look like?
Basically, it's a cone shape that just
[39:32] surrounds the
oil up, so say where the hoses come down
[39:38] in. You got hoses way up top that you
have to bring the unit down in with from
[39:44] up top and they go right down to the
bottom of the unit. And that's what
[39:50] adjust the blade like I said earlier.
So, it's just a basically a manifold.
[39:55] Yeah, I just I've seen this rotary
manifold. It just seems like that one's
[39:59] a lot of money.
>> Mhm.
[40:00] » So, I didn't know if it was gigantic.
>> Well, the one hydraulic line was
[40:05] » that was what 400.
>> Oh, the the whole assembly.
[40:10] » Well, remember that we changed
>> in the water?
[40:13] » Yeah. Three of them. Yeah. It's probably
a bigger deal.
[40:15] » It's like that one.
>> This some special hydraulic line.
[40:20] » No, we
just kidding. [laughter]
[40:24] You're under
[40:28] that we fixed in the past. There's like
a
[40:32] » I mean it's got a funky end on it.
>> Yeah. I priced that out brand new and
[40:36] that was like 12 grand to have that
done.
[40:39] That was just crazy.
>> Do you think it has something to do with
[40:44] the the fact that it's in the water and
there's big stipulations and regulations
[40:48] around that
>> stuff that gets down in here? I mean the
[40:50] blade got compromised. Something got
down in there. who knows it gets through
[40:54] the racks.
>> I mean,
[40:57] » cuz the past couple years we've been
doing routine maintenance on it. We've
[41:00] been pulling it out, which hadn't been
done when we was pulling it, doing oil
[41:04] changes and stuff.
[41:08] » It gets a lot of use.
[41:14] » This isn't something we need to decide
on.
[41:16] » No, no, no. We can I mean I can meet
back in the next meeting or next two
[41:20] meetings to maybe get a time frame.
>> Yeah. on that
[41:23] » and then we can get you better numbers.
>> Yeah.
[41:26] » The losing because it does depend on the
month.
[41:28] » The month.
>> So they did was it 5 years? They gave us
[41:31] 5 year history.
>> Yeah. [snorts]
[41:34] » Um so they gave us 5 year history of
what that um Kendo unit was producing.
[41:40] But you got to take in consideration it
was one year why it was almost down the
[41:44] whole year. Yeah.
>> So, take that year out
[41:47] » and then say what it is for the last
three
[41:50] » and that'll give you a good idea.
>> Okay. Um,
[41:58] yeah. And then well, the 5year 2 is
skewed a bit lower
[42:03] cuz that doesn't I can't remember was
last July or two Julies ago is when the
[42:08] tier twos took effect. of those of those
five years, you know, we were getting
[42:12] paid out a tier two on I think this past
year.
[42:16] » So that's just extra money that we're
losing now is we're not producing, but
[42:21] » and averages are pretty okay to try to
figure this out.
[42:26] » Yeah. [snorts] Okay.
>> So we come back with time frames and um
[42:31] cost
[42:35] » lost money.
seems like you might be leaning more
[42:40] towards a newer unit might remedy some
stuff.
[42:44] » I think it'll be a better setup for the
situation,
[42:48] » right?
>> I mean, we constantly are working on
[42:51] that thing.
>> But also throw out there, I mean, what
[42:56] we might be able to bundle this. I don't
know. I'm going to ask. Um, they may I
[43:00] got to find out some more information.
It's kind of late breaking, so that's
[43:04] why I don't have it at my fingertips. Um
so with the solar project
[43:11] believe I mentioned all this so with the
solar project the village if it
[43:15] continues
back and is working with encore kind of
[43:22] keep it moving forward. Um, and the
village would actually be buying the
[43:27] project.
And one of the reasons why that would be
[43:30] is because the bond bank would be the
lender and the bond bank lend to
[43:38] municipalities. You can't lend to VEPSA.
Um, so that's considered renewable.
[43:44] Solar project isn't renewable. And
that's what's got their ears perked up
[43:49] about helping us do this project and
also [clears throat] part of the micro
[43:52] grid project. concept too.
>> So, um that's kind of all the talks we
[43:58] got going on right now. So, even though
it's a lot of money, we could tie it
[44:02] into that too um
in one month sum
[44:08] cuz I mean as we built the micro grid
concept, the hydros were able to were
[44:13] part of that.
[44:18] you're kind of dead in the water without
that hydro because it I mean I don't
[44:22] know if you can even factored in that
price.
[44:25] I mean maybe that's a can analytically
or
[44:29] cuz now we're not able to run the
village at certain times because our
[44:33] bypass flow CFS
where normally we've been able to. So
[44:41] but with that candle being out it killed
us.
[44:47] So we'll do some more homework and get
back to you.
[44:49] » Very good. Uh number 11 regulators
discuss regulators.
[44:56] So again we'll key it up and let Alan
get technical. Um we have three
[45:02] regulators at up at the substation that
we we need to change before next
[45:07] triggering season. Um, I got I can get
the technical part of it
[45:14] and part of this also came back. There's
a couple of spec issues that we have
[45:18] with those regulators. And this came
through our um TND study that we had
[45:23] completed last year. And this is one of
the things the engineers recommended
[45:26] kind of as first priority was to get
these regulators changed out. And on top
[45:32] of that, the power, we've been having
issues during sugaring and we even had
[45:36] an issue this summer. Um, so basically
they have an odometer on them and let's
[45:42] say the odometer is supposed to be good
to 100,000. These things have like a
[45:46] million on them. So they're way past
their lifespan. Um, in uh during the TND
[45:52] study, the engineer that we worked with
uh recommended or threw out the idea
[46:00] holding mass has a municipality uh power
light department.
[46:05] um they have like six or seven
regulators
[46:09] um that we could use. We could buy from
them. They're 10 grand each. We're
[46:14] thinking about buying four, having a
spare and buying three. Um there is a
[46:19] company not too far from them that would
come kind of give them a another
[46:24] inspection and
uh tuneup type thing. Um and they sent
[46:29] all the spec sheets and stuff. So that's
kind of one option. So, I guess overall,
[46:34] yes, we need to get these regulars
changed out. We're presenting these
[46:37] options. So, that's one option. Second
option, if you look in here, is the TNR.
[46:44] These are refurbished. They are $17,000
a piece.
[46:50] Um,
but they come with a a warranty,
[46:54] threeear warranty. So, if we bought
three of those, we'd be looking at about
[46:58] 51,000.
Um,
[47:03] and then the last Allen did I think I
have it in here. Uh,
[47:09] put it in here.
[47:13] » Yes.
They're about the other 28 grand
[47:19] 25.
[47:22] » Um,
another option.
[47:28] Um,
[47:31] we budgeted 40,000. We can budget to do
the the four.
[47:36] So,
and Allan's going to get more into it.
[47:41] Um, if you want more or you can um talk
to Allan, talk to Dave, talk to the guys
[47:47] actually Sean and you know, they kind of
like the the um TNR ones cuz they have a
[47:53] three-year warranty.
Um
[47:56] they're refurbished again. I know
they've been already gone through pretty
[48:00] thoroughly. Um
[48:04] and uh my understanding too is you guys
like the controls are the same as what
[48:10] we have now. So um we would have to hire
BEC to come in and help us swap these
[48:15] out. Their head end technician to come
in and help us.
[48:19] Um
and we would be down probably we have to
[48:23] take the whole village down for what
it'll be 3 4 hours anyway at best.
[48:30] » Yeah.
So we have to take the whole village
[48:33] down just swap these things out. I'll be
doing during the day.
[48:38] Um,
so that's [sighs] but this this I'd like
[48:43] to decide on and get moving on it cuz
like I said, we got I don't I mean the
[48:47] ones in at Holden Mass those I can call
that guy. You know, they could be here
[48:52] probably within a month.
Uh TNR for
[48:56] » 4 to 6 weeks.
>> Four to six weeks. So I'd like to get
[48:59] that order in so that we can get those
in here cuz again we want to get this we
[49:04] like to get it done before December
where it gets too cold. So
[49:06] » Mhm. Um,
[49:10] how long were the other ones you study
were those?
[49:13] » I didn't see a time frame on that one.
I'm guessing they're at least 2 months
[49:18] probably. Yeah. So,
um, so yeah, we got to kind of make a
[49:23] decision on this. So,
>> TNRS were mid-range costwise, just over
[49:28] what we budgeted.
>> Yeah, they're about 12,000 over.
[49:34] Where would we
pull that from
[49:39] any?
>> Not sure.
[49:42] » There's still
as far as finance it.
[49:46] » Mhm.
>> Um,
[49:50] can we pull from that? I will see.
[49:55] » Oh. Um,
>> I think that there's
[50:00] » We could Yeah, we could. There's I think
there's still a little bit more room
[50:04] left on that line of credit.
>> Um
[50:07] » that was kind of an overall line of
credit.
[50:09] » Yeah, it just says general projects
um electrical general projects.
[50:16] You can also see uh I did um the first
six months a deep analysis on the
[50:23] electrical department and even though we
had budgeted over a million dollars as a
[50:29] loss um for the first 6 months we earned
15,000
[50:33] um expenses over revenue. But that's
because these guys have been
[50:40] not buying anything, not doing anything
on the bare minimum. and we are going to
[50:45] wait to see the rate increase finally
went into effect and we're gonna we were
[50:50] going to wait to see how that panned out
and then um with Franklin Foods cutting
[50:56] back how that was going to affect our
revenues. Um but just to let you know
[51:01] the first 6 months were not as bad as
what was budgeted but just because they
[51:05] have been really frugal and very very
careful. Mhm.
[51:11] » Two, we do have in there budgeting was a
$48,000 regulator for this year that
[51:16] we're it's it's
>> what
[51:20] » reclocure.
Sorry. Um that is a year out. So it's
[51:26] not
>> a year.
[51:27] » Yeah. We're not going to get anyway.
>> Potentially budget that in for next
[51:31] year.
>> Rebudget for that.
[51:34] » We'll have to rebudget for that next
year. Yeah.
[51:37] » Okay.
So you're sliding out there and just
[51:41] like computer they don't think right
>> knows anymore. So yeah,
[51:46] » I mean I don't
>> stand by I don't know a lot about this
[51:49] stuff but I mean familiarity is is a
good thing like if it's something that
[51:54] they can just up and run without having
to worry about cuz I always like
[51:59] if something new there's always
potential of breaking it cuz you don't
[52:02] know or getting injured cuz you don't
know like the extra few thousand would
[52:07] almost be worth it um in my opinion.
Um
[52:15] and and their time timeout is
relatively close. You said 2 months 2 to
[52:21] 3 months.
>> Which one was that?
[52:23] » The TNR
>> TR 4 to 6 weeks.
[52:26] » Oh, four to 6 weeks. So it would be done
sooner.
[52:31] » So and we would
>> while the still down
[52:34] » would be without power for a few hours,
>> right? There's a couple of days where
[52:39] there's going to be no school in the
next couple months possibly
[52:45] » schedu
[52:56] » I do have concerns
>> they used to they used to have generator
[53:00] I'm not so sure about that
>> so that would be something to make sure
[53:04] » Oh yeah we would do all
>> you're doing this beforehand letting you
[53:07] know that Yeah. Right here.
>> The saddest part about that there's like
[53:12] a neutral position on those.
>> Mhm.
[53:16] » And you have to have it in that neutral
position before you can kill it. If you
[53:22] don't,
>> right?
[53:25] It's just a piece of equipment that you
have to really have to have and work,
[53:31] » right?
>> Cuz you got to like John was saying
[53:35] earlier, they got these drag hands on
there. They got a neutral position. They
[53:40] got 16 steps they call boosting steps
bucking.
[53:46] » So that one right there was pegging out
and they come back.
[53:50] » Right. So
>> you said before sugar season because
[53:54] there's so much up and down 128
circuit.
[54:00] » Yeah,
>> it caused problems.
[54:03] » They're all in the same spot.
>> This is all regulars are all right at
[54:08] the subst. I didn't know if there were
>> multiple ones around.
[54:13] » There is a few but the substations,
>> right? But these are the ones these are
[54:17] the ones that were needed which we've
been we have been talking about for a
[54:22] few months now. So
[54:41] sounds like probably what the TNR ones
are the ones to go with. Mhm.
[54:47] And they're the only ones with a
warranty.
[54:51] The
>> the ones
[54:55] » No, it was three.
>> Three.
[54:56] » TR was three.
>> Three. Yeah. Three for TNR of the other
[54:59] ones.
>> Hold one. I didn't see anything. Did
[55:04] you?
>> The what?
[55:05] » Holden.
>> I didn't see that. No, I didn't see one.
[55:08] » And hold or hold Holden wouldn't. I
mean, they're just we're finding like
[55:11] you'd buy from somebody. They're Yeah.
So, and
[55:16] » got you.
>> Yeah.
[55:18] » I never saw a counter
sent.
[55:27] » There's the counter count number of
events.
[55:30] » Yep.
[55:34] Cuz you got
this like a
[55:41] So, you got these little pies in there.
So it wears and tears,
[55:45] » right?
>> So eventually you have to clean out the
[55:48] oil cuz the carbon and stuff in there.
>> Mhm.
[55:52] » Yeah.
[55:59] » And I'm going to say this like I know
what I'm talking about, but it's it's
[56:02] more with engineer.
Um
[56:08] and now I'm correct, but but uh 3330s
are what we're getting. Mhm.
[56:13] » Those are a little bigger than we need.
So that's we have room.
[56:16] » That will also help.
>> Yeah, we have room to grow,
[56:20] » right?
>> Which seems to be an every year thing
[56:23] with maple sugar in. So it's probably
not a bad thing.
[56:26] » Yeah.
When I first started here, I was like
[56:31] three mag.
[56:37] » Is that our highest
>> 4.8?
[56:41] kind of that time of year
>> that it has been become the highest
[56:46] » has become okay
>> for load
[56:48] » for load used to be the summer but now
it's sharing season
[56:53] » used to be July or something we can see
it
[56:56] » right
>> four we've only been over five a couple
[56:58] times
like 51 something like that and these
[57:04] these are going to help
continue with Yeah, cool. Yeah, that
[57:11] shut down that circuit.
>> All right.
[57:17] » Would we need some sort of
um motion for financing additional
[57:24] rate?
>> I don't think so. No, I said just come
[57:30] off of the look at our budget season
with the regulator.
[57:35] » Okay. with the reclusion. You see those
bathrooms?
[57:38] » What are those Rwords?
>> Those Rwords.
[57:46] » Yeah, that'll just fall in line with the
budgeting for next year.
[57:51] » Okay,
we're going to move a year behind as our
[57:56] goal is to have a reclosure each year.
[58:03] And again I well as we talk through this
you know there if the whole micro grid
[58:08] thing comes to fruition there might be
some changes in the head anyway. So
[58:13] that's why I think I mean the the ten or
the older ones I think are the ones to
[58:16] go with because they'll suffice for the
near future and then if something's
[58:23] happening the micro grid. Um
I realize we didn't have our faces up
[58:29] there.
So,
[58:33] » so we need to move on buying something.
>> I would. Yeah, we got to get moving
[58:37] because we got to get it get it.
>> I'm going to get it in.
[58:42] » So,
make a motion to go with a TNR
[58:48] at the price stated
>> 51,000 four
[58:53] » three
>> three of them.
[58:54] » We do with the hold ones. We're going to
buy four and not have a spare,
[58:57] » right? We only need three. But we have a
threeear spare. So
[59:03] » threeear spare basically.
>> Um
[59:10] I'll make the motion to approve the TNR
to be ordered.
[59:16] Um
[59:19] » the three regulators for TNR.
[59:28] is
>> 17
[59:31] » $52,881
for 38.81.
[59:38] » Yep.
>> Okay. So, I make the motion to approve
[59:43] the purchase of the TNR
uh regulators for $52,881.
[59:51] » All right. Motion on the table. Is there
a second?
[59:54] » A second.
>> Been moved and seconded. Any further
[59:57] discussion?
All those in favor? I
[1:00:01] » I opposed.
So moved.
[1:00:07] Thanks for coming, Alan.
>> Thank you.
[1:00:13] » Stay around.
>> You're welcome. Have a good day.
[1:00:15] » Have a good night.
>> Uh, next up, final approval of
[1:00:20] administrative vehicle use policy.
>> So hopefully this is the last
[1:00:25] copy. Um I sent a copy last meeting and
then new desk that the lawyer. So
[1:00:34] anything in the blue was what the lawyer
added.
[1:00:39] Um, so if you want to read through that
agree then
[1:00:52] I mean he he kind of rewarded a little
bit the taxing thing that David was say
[1:00:57] » wanted to see. Um,
then rest is kind of just more of like a
[1:01:06] formalized it a little bit harder.
>> Yeah.
[1:01:30] I'm glad the lawyer looked it over.
These are good additions.
[1:02:10] all of
[1:02:16] the one change the leaving unattended.
[1:02:23] If you guys go out like if the vehicle
goes out and guys are leaving it like as
[1:02:28] a warming truck, would that bother that?
Um,
[1:02:35] » yeah, I believe the keys in the thing,
>> right?
[1:02:37] » Yeah. I didn't I wasn't a fan of that,
but that's decision.
[1:02:43] » Like, I understand the reason for that
is so somebody doesn't jump into it, but
[1:02:48] when these guys are working in the
winter, like I could like they're going
[1:02:52] back. I mean, I guess it all depends on
what unattended is.
[1:02:55] » Yeah. I feel like if they're right there
with the vehicle, it's different than
[1:02:58] leaving it and going into a store or
into the office. So I guess it's kind of
[1:03:03] as we look at it too then
>> right I think there's discretion our
[1:03:08] discretion
>> okay
[1:03:11] » like if the keys are left in it and it
gets taken from McDonald's or something
[1:03:17] different
>> during the storm
[1:03:19] » if the keys are in it
>> right during a storm or like if they're
[1:03:22] working in the park over here and or
>> right
[1:03:26] » yeah the car's if it's the vehicle's
parked right next to visibly see the
[1:03:31] expression anyway.
>> It's true.
[1:03:33] » Okay.
[1:03:38] » Yeah.
[1:03:44] Garden
[1:03:48] put the final stamp on that.
>> If you agree, it's your choice.
[1:03:53] » I'm okay with it.
>> I am too. Um, I'm happy to make that
[1:03:57] motion
to approve the administrative vehicle
[1:04:01] use policy as updated.
>> Motion's on the table. Is there a
[1:04:06] second?
>> Second.
[1:04:07] » Any further discussion? All those in
favor? I
[1:04:11] » I opposed. So move.
[1:04:18] Now we can have some managers minutes.
[1:04:27] Um,
[1:04:31] so financials, we're in
summer calling it hell week. So we're
[1:04:36] doing we pretty much are in training
every day all day. Um, Lori, Caroline,
[1:04:42] myself, um, and Psyche's in there a bit,
too. Um,
[1:04:49] so and we're trying to stumble through
some things. some of this just
[1:04:53] procedural ethic been doing for 100
years and it's going to look a little
[1:04:57] different but um but the cut over is the
end of September so we'll be cutting
[1:05:03] over the financials we've been going to
Harris who's our current financial
[1:05:07] software and we've been um doing uploads
downloads whatever to
[1:05:13] NISC um
[1:05:17] you want to add to any of that or where
we're at or whatever's going on
[1:05:21] » it's going. Um, we're trying to proof
our books before the cutoff. So, as I
[1:05:28] said, Lori has named each week. This
week is called week and in two weeks it
[1:05:34] will be called dark week because we're
going to have a whole week um from
[1:05:38] Friday afternoon on the 11th through
that whole next week where we cannot
[1:05:43] enter anything either into the legacy
software program or the new one. M
[1:05:48] » so a whole week of being totally nothing
can be posted anywhere. So it's going to
[1:05:53] be kind of a hard week. Um that's called
dark week and then the next I think
[1:05:58] there's a week after and then we're
going live week. So it's going to be
[1:06:03] kind of intense during those weeks. But
now into September 11th um we're trying
[1:06:10] really hard to get everything reconciled
and perfected before we make the move
[1:06:15] over. Um we are going to be able to
download 20 years of history which is
[1:06:21] good. So um but it's a lot of proofing
to make sure that everything comes over
[1:06:27] accurately and um we are doing intensive
training. So during live week we will be
[1:06:35] doing um lots of proof lots of proof
entering um and then proofing to make
[1:06:40] sure everything follows in the right GL
and and follows where it should. So,
[1:06:45] it's all learning curve, but um so far
I'm liking the new program. Um there's a
[1:06:50] lot of new features that I think are
going to over time make things very um
[1:06:56] transparent and efficient, but it's just
getting from here to there. [snorts] And
[1:07:02] I think like one of the the big things
is the account numbers are changing. So,
[1:07:07] for me coming back in, I don't have them
all memorized. Some of them I do, but
[1:07:11] for like Lori and Psyche who know, you
know, the way they've been doing for the
[1:07:16] past 25 years and now you're dropping
the first zero and you're dropping the
[1:07:20] third three digits in between and you
know what I mean? It's throwing them out
[1:07:25] of rhythm a little bit and
>> but it's just it it will come. It will
[1:07:30] come.
>> Good.
[1:07:34] uh vert grant. The vert grant's the one
we received work on the hydro buildings
[1:07:39] themselves. Um we already have the roof
done, the new rubber roof on it and we
[1:07:45] have the window guide coming in. Um the
windows ordered. Um
[1:07:50] » so they were approved by
>> Yeah, they got approved by the
[1:07:53] historical preservation.
>> Um we've got um some more money to spend
[1:08:00] and so we're we're going to do that. Um
cuz these came in I don't know. I mean
[1:08:07] this was the project Abby started with
and we thought the roof and the windows
[1:08:10] were going to suck up the majority of it
and we're not even close. So we have
[1:08:15] some other projects um we just got to
get moving on. So
[1:08:20] I'll probably have some more bid
estimates hopefully by the our next
[1:08:23] meeting
um to approve for that work to get done.
[1:08:28] Um, Pearl Street sidewalk unfortunately
because of some timing of some things is
[1:08:34] going not going to happen till this
spring coming up 2027.
[1:08:38] We won't get it done in 2026. Uh, we did
move the fire hydrant. Um,
[1:08:44] that's ready to go. So unfortunately
just some delays and some
[1:08:50] easement stuff and then this we're I
mean it's 98% chance it won't happen but
[1:08:58] because when you once you get the all
the information it has to go through the
[1:09:02] state to reook at everything again and
they have up to a month and then there's
[1:09:06] like another 3 week delay in there or
something like that. So maybe pushing
[1:09:10] closer to November so we're just going
to wait till the spring. Um
[1:09:16] if I think majority of everybody can
meet during the day if you wanted or or
[1:09:21] in the afternoon. Um the folks that did
the dam removal at the reservoir asked
[1:09:26] if you wanted to do a walk through with
them and they can describe and go over.
[1:09:30] Um so if you want to throw a date out
there, like I said, I don't know. Sounds
[1:09:36] like the past we could do some daytime
stuff that you want to do or night. any
[1:09:41] thoughts on that or get back to me on a
date and time
[1:09:46] um to do a walk through with them.
Um
[1:09:52] grant we talked about that. We're moving
forward with that. Um
[1:09:57] so that's if you remember there's kind
of two main projects there. There's the
[1:10:00] Boston Post cut over where we're going
to bring from the bridge about a mile
[1:10:05] up. Bring that from the field to
roadside. And um then the other part is
[1:10:11] the vegetation management. So we get the
vegetation management process moving. We
[1:10:14] have a meeting tomorrow, Caroline and I,
a person from the state discuss the
[1:10:19] great grant and go over it kind of where
we're at with everything.
[1:10:23] Um
so kind of that's our hopefully our next
[1:10:28] project. So, we're finishing up an up
that upgrade from Pleasant Street power
[1:10:33] wise upgrade from Pleasant Street to
Water Tower all the way out through
[1:10:38] Reservoir Road. Um once that's done,
hope hopefully get that wrapped up and
[1:10:42] then we're going to move into um the
substation, get that done,
[1:10:47] and then by then we'll hopefully be
ready to start the Boston Post Road
[1:10:51] section. That upgrade on Elm Street
Water Tower Road, they're increasing the
[1:10:58] voltage. Correct.
>> Correct.
[1:11:00] » They have to shut off the power at some
point to do that.
[1:11:03] » We do.
>> Have they figured out when we want to do
[1:11:05] that?
>> We have um engineering that part.
[1:11:10] » We haven't yet. Um we have some more
work to do to get to that point. And
[1:11:14] then we have to uh we we need swollen
cell or else it would take probably
[1:11:18] double the time. So we they're going to
bring two trucks over and like four
[1:11:21] guys. So
as a business owner in the area, would
[1:11:27] you re We were thinking doing it during
the day.
[1:11:29] » I mean, it is what it is. I'm not going
to stop you from doing it.
[1:11:33] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. We're thinking about during the
[1:11:36] during the day just cuz it's so much
easier time, you know, half the time.
[1:11:40] » You can see what you're not walking
through in the dark.
[1:11:44] » How will people be notified? Yeah.
Oh, no. We'll go out. That's not a whole
[1:11:50] village thing. That's just uh basically
water tower road up.
[1:11:54] » So like the bank
>> tractor. No, tracky or yes tractor by
[1:12:01] Hannerford is off a different circuit.
McDonald's the bank EMS building.
[1:12:13] Yeah, two of the chesties in this.
[laughter]
[1:12:16] » Um
>> Dave said multiple hours.
[1:12:21] » Yeah, probably at least eight or no, at
least uh probably 6 to 8. they'll be
[1:12:27] down and then
um
[1:12:31] I mean they'll be working probably a
good 14 hours to get it done but
[1:12:36] 5 to 7 I would say I think is what
they're for the cut over
[1:12:44] but again another big project that or
not big but a good project that we've
[1:12:47] been you know been supposedly been
trying to do for the past 100 years it's
[1:12:51] that step down if you ever seen it just
past the lines there's like by the golf
[1:12:54] course there's those four funky poles of
the battery fall down that we'll be
[1:12:59] getting that step down. So, this same
power will be going all the way up
[1:13:04] through
um
[1:13:07] that corrosion plan that we had to do
for the state that is probably going to
[1:13:12] be done this week.
Um, and then the the uh muffin monster.
[1:13:23] Remember the muffin monster
conversation?
[1:13:26] » Muffin monster.
>> The muffin monster is a unit that goes
[1:13:30] in. It's kind of like the first line of
defense for the wastewater department.
[1:13:34] It's like a bunch of gears
>> and takes out anything that's solid. If
[1:13:40] anything goes down through there, even
like like thick towel or or um something
[1:13:44] hard that got through. Uh that's in. Um
so I just got to line up with a digger
[1:13:50] truck with a power guys to go in there
and pull that out. But
[1:13:53] » good. That was faster than it was
supposed to.
[1:13:57] » Yeah.
>> They were planning on doing that when it
[1:13:59] was cold.
>> Yeah.
[1:14:00] » So that's good. That's good.
>> Uh their truck is they're just waiting.
[1:14:06] They're still waiting on their truck.
Um,
[1:14:11] » yo, the truck's good. [snorts]
>> Um,
[1:14:15] » happy, not happy.
>> We're happy. I'm happy with the truck,
[1:14:18] but the they put the wrong hydro
hydraulic uh compressor in the new
[1:14:23] truck.
>> So, they just came and swapped that back
[1:14:26] out.
>> Okay.
[1:14:27] » It got wicked hot. Um, and they were
wondering why. They called the guy out.
[1:14:33] They didn't even recognize it. And then
they ordered what they thought it they
[1:14:37] ordered the replacement. Well, they had
a replacement until they got the wrong
[1:14:40] size.
So they replaced the high the crew came
[1:14:44] out, replaced it. Um
and now everybody's everybody's happy.
[1:14:49] » Okay.
>> And and it's been John's half of it was
[1:14:54] u um decal the other half to do that
tomorrow and then that that truck will
[1:15:00] be done
>> and on the road.
[1:15:03] Um, that's what I got.
>> Just [snorts] circling back to the the
[1:15:08] damn walk through, it might be easiest
if the team threw out like maybe two
[1:15:13] dates or something or whatever and we
can see if we can go
[1:15:17] » if there's a date. Yeah, that'd be
helpful too. Or again, you want to start
[1:15:20] with day or or afternoon or do you want
to go?
[1:15:25] » Lauren said she'd be open. She's she's
pretty open to what accommodating
[1:15:30] » if too many of us go. have to warn that
it mean
[1:15:35] » again as long as we're not talking about
talk about the birds and the damn
[1:15:44] » I'm not much of a walker so I'm probably
not going to go
[1:15:47] » okay
>> I'm
[1:15:49] » she has drone footage so we I can relay
that to you
[1:15:53] » perfect
>> I'm fairly flexible before 200 p.m. But
[1:15:57] I just my schedule's kind of all over
the place, so it's hard to to know what
[1:16:03] I'm going to have available.
>> And getting back to the walking part,
[1:16:07] you don't really have I mean, you can
walk all the way up if you want, but you
[1:16:11] can drive literally now right to it and
see where the dam was and see it's not
[1:16:14] there, but and look up the river. So it
doesn't she she like I mean she's happy
[1:16:20] to walk the whole thing with you but if
you just want to stop there and look out
[1:16:24] the river I mean cuz the part that you
look at it's just
[1:16:30] right it's been dug out and replaced and
so so going to be a drive up too.
[1:16:38] I think what was saying if she wants to
just pick a couple dates and then we can
[1:16:41] try to choose out of those two
>> dates. She again she said she be pretty
[1:16:48] dominating.
>> Okay.
[1:16:56] » Sounds good.
>> You said before too.
[1:16:58] » Yeah. I can generally like flex a little
bit time before or after 5:30.
[1:17:03] Um but like during programming
>> Yeah. during programming time. I need to
[1:17:08] be doing what day?
>> Yeah, after 5:30
[1:17:12] because
it's been a long day.
[1:17:15] » I mean, we got a couple more weeks, but
after that, it's going to start getting
[1:17:18] » Yeah.
Let me see. I'm just trying to like I
[1:17:21] can give you some
>> Mondays are kind of better for me.
[1:17:26] » Leonard,
>> he's retired. He doesn't do anything.
[1:17:31] You said that before.
[1:17:36] » So Leonard's a don't care. [laughter]
>> Don't care.
[1:17:40] » Just let just let me know.
>> I'm guessing Dave, as long as he has a
[1:17:43] little lead time, doesn't care, per se.
>> You could probably make it where
[1:17:49] » I know next week is really busy for me
on and off the week after and then a
[1:17:55] little bit, a little less scheduled as
>> a day slower for you.
[1:18:01] I'm going uh late September. I have I'll
be gone for a few days, but other than
[1:18:06] that, I'm pretty open about the 14th.
>> September.
[1:18:11] » Yeah.
>> No, August.
[1:18:14] » Sure.
[1:18:17] » Sometime between 10 and 2, I should be
available.
[1:18:20] » So, set them about like 11:00.
>> Sure.
[1:18:25] » You let us know.
>> All right.
[1:18:30] What is it? 14. Let me show my
>> Monday.
[1:18:34] » That's not one of your uh hell week.
Dark week.
[1:18:38] » Oh, right.
>> No, dark week's the 30th.
[1:18:41] » It's not
>> the 14th, is that what is third week?
[1:18:45] » No. Um the cut off for
>> that is dark week.
[1:18:48] » September 11th.
>> So, perfect. You don't have anything to
[1:18:50] do here. [laughter]
>> So, during that week, we need something
[1:18:54] to do cuz we're going to be going crazy.
We have a walk through. But it' be a
[1:18:57] good day for me to be out of the office.
[clears throat and laughter]
[1:19:01] » Let's play it that day.
>> Let it be a good day.
[1:19:07] » That is dark night.
>> It's not like you're going to be gone
[1:19:10] all day.
>> Yeah.
[1:19:13] All right. So, she was the 14th at 11:00
a.m. I'll tell uh ask Lauren. Okay.
[1:19:24] Um, and then you can see too what she's
working on. Did I mention this? So,
[1:19:28] she's working on a grant to help us with
the crossing,
[1:19:33] um, the river crossing. And we may
adjust it um,
[1:19:38] and cross up a little bit further and
take that road up the way the road is
[1:19:44] now. If you never been up there, the
road kind of crosses,
[1:19:47] » it goes into a little bit of the
easement of the neighbors. It loops up
[1:19:50] like this to get to well two. The idea
is to just follow the power line. So
[1:19:54] then we don't have to worry about
vegetation management or the power line
[1:19:57] anymore cuz we'll keep it clear and if
we're going to put a cover in anyway, we
[1:20:02] might move the C over a little bit and
then just have the road follow right up
[1:20:05] to.
>> That's the key.
[1:20:07] » And then we wouldn't be on the easement
just in case anything would happen. Not
[1:20:11] that I would per se, but we would have
to worry about that be all on the
[1:20:14] village property. Good.
[1:20:21] » I did more talking this time than I have
since I've been here.
[1:20:25] » So, that project went good with the fire
hydrant up here.
[1:20:31] » Yep.
>> Okay.
[1:20:32] » Yep. So, that got moved and all that was
rolled. What was going on on Main Street
[1:20:36] just
>> Oh, so we had a So, um, FCIDC is finally
[1:20:44] paving their parking lot and then that
strip, you remember Gary's dying words
[1:20:49] where make sure that strip gets paid
where they dug their line in the big dig
[1:20:53] on Main Street.
>> Um, so that's all going to be done here
[1:20:56] in the next painting should be done the
next week or two. They had to wait
[1:20:59] » 9th 8th like Tuesday Wednesday in
September
[1:21:04] » they actually
>> 7th 8th 8th 9th something like that.
[1:21:07] » Yeah. They had to wait for that gravel
the compact for 3 weeks.
[1:21:13] » So [snorts] we had to fix that manhole
first.
[1:21:16] » So the guys did that before school
started.
[1:21:20] » So that's all done. So when they come to
pave it's all done.
[1:21:26] Good.
>> I heard uh Swampton the baffle over the
[1:21:32] dame
had cracked or busted or whatever and
[1:21:36] it's gone.
>> Yeah.
[1:21:37] » And now they're not they're buying most
of the electricity. Is that affecting us
[1:21:42] in any way?
>> They're No, not us. Uh
[1:21:49] » not really.
>> No, not really. The only thing that is
[1:21:51] interesting is the river had the river
has changed a bit.
[1:21:56] So if we were running
um it might have helped us a little bit
[1:22:02] cuz they're they're not they're not
backing up and then draining the river
[1:22:07] like they normally would be with that
with that ladder.
[1:22:11] But technically, no. Okay. And and then
to Heather's point, just we don't forget
[1:22:16] that Heather had brought up emailed
asking about the whole new tariff thing
[1:22:21] that's going on and probably saw on the
news that there was shut down can't shut
[1:22:26] off power to some states or whatever
that in theory shouldn't affect us. I
[1:22:32] mean, maybe you get into winter a little
bit cuz but everything's volatile in the
[1:22:38] power world anyway. But again, we don't
buy power directly from Canada. It's
[1:22:44] more on it would be a more an emergency
purpose. We have a connection through
[1:22:48] that high gate big substation.
Um that's traditionally what we've been
[1:22:54] using power from them for is if we ever
needed it for anything south of us or
[1:22:59] west of us went down we could get power
from that that substation specifically
[1:23:05] us too the village not others may not
but we could could have fed from BEC
[1:23:11] through that.
>> Yeah I couldn't remember. I thought
[1:23:13] there were like some sort of connect
like way we were connected with Canadian
[1:23:17] powers. I didn't remember the full
details.
[1:23:19] » Yeah.
>> Might not pan out to be anything but
[1:23:21] just something to be aware of since it's
something being talked about. I mean it
[1:23:27] is interesting because
I mean I don't know what the future
[1:23:32] looks like. Um but you [snorts] know
through VPSA they Velco and they are
[1:23:38] looking at a huge substation overhaul
like like a million dollars or some
[1:23:42] crazy number of that substation and
maybe moving it. So I don't know if
[1:23:48] something happens there now or I think
it all going forward but
[1:23:55] might make you nervous to spend a
million dollars not knowing they may cut
[1:23:58] us off
but that's you know and that's all way
[1:24:04] out world stuff.
[1:24:08] So,
>> um, can I make an amendment to the, um,
[1:24:15] agenda because I just realized we have
executive sessions before other
[1:24:18] business. We're kind of getting into
other business anyway.
[1:24:21] » Switch those two items.
>> Sure.
[1:24:23] » Awesome.
[1:24:28] » All right. Who's got some other
business?
[1:24:31] I hear
[1:24:35] um
Brian at the wastewater department asked
[1:24:42] he said he talked to Ken and we have
extra asphalt millings from when they
[1:24:45] redid Sis Street. He would like to
purchase some of them.
[1:24:51] I don't have a problem with it. He
doesn't need much. We're still going to
[1:24:54] have plenty left over for whatever
projects Kenny has. I guess
[1:24:59] we just have to decide on a price and if
we're interested in selling or
[1:25:02] something.
[1:25:06] » I mean, I don't care. I don't know what
the going rate for that stuff is. I
[1:25:09] know.
>> I did a quick Google search and about 12
[1:25:12] bucks a yard is a fair price.
>> Okay. How many yards?
[1:25:20] » I think he said he wanted a couple ton
truckloads. So, not much.
[1:25:24] » Couple
>> one ton truckloads.
[1:25:26] » Oh. So 6 8 y.
[1:25:34] » What's our policy?
>> Right. I don't know. That's the other
[1:25:38] thing.
>> Do we have anything against selling that
[1:25:42] stuff?
>> I I don't think so. I don't I mean I
[1:25:47] don't know if any policy not to do that.
We always just like when it comes to
[1:25:52] firewood and stuff, we always just stay
away from it cuz you never know.
[1:25:56] wants it or who doesn't want it. So, we
just never really touched it, per se.
[1:26:00] But if if he's buying it,
I don't I don't see an issue with I
[1:26:05] guess.
>> Very different than giving it away.
[1:26:08] » Yeah. I mean, we've done it with cell
phones.
[1:26:10] » Yeah.
>> Simple cell phones that were used that
[1:26:13] we couldn't use anymore. We sold those
for 20 bucks to people or whatever.
[1:26:17] » Yeah. It's not like we haven't done that
type of thing before
[1:26:21] » and that wasn't part of a policy. We
just picked a price and
[1:26:24] » Yeah. Yeah, we used to do a fair market
value.
[1:26:25] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:26:29] And where would that go? Back to the
highway.
[1:26:33] » Probably their
fun.
[1:26:37] » Yeah. Unload that middle dumpster. They
make a tool fund.
[1:26:41] » Okay. So, go there.
>> Okay.
[1:26:50] » With me. If it's all right with anybody
else.
[1:26:52] » Yeah. I don't know if we need to move on
that, but
[1:26:55] » uh
>> probably just so that it's written in
[1:26:59] » right
>> down what we're selling for.
[1:27:03] » Yeah. Okay.
>> $12 a yard, 68 yards.
[1:27:08] » We need to say $12 a yard. I mean,
>> well, we want to make sure there's
[1:27:12] enough for
>> projects that are needed.
[1:27:15] » We should say like 10 yards or
something.
[1:27:17] » Sure.
>> And if it goes over that, we can revisit
[1:27:19] it.
>> Sure.
[1:27:21] No more than 10. Okay.
>> So, take a motion to sell up to 10 yards
[1:27:26] millings to Brian for $12 a yard.
>> All right. We'll make that motion.
[1:27:33] » Move. Is there a second?
I'll second that. All right. Moved and
[1:27:37] seconded. Any further discussion?
All those in favor? I post. So move.
[1:27:45] That's all I have.
[1:28:14] I don't know if I have anything. I just
I kind of put down a note to like go
[1:28:17] along with the
like a birthday cake just the king of
[1:28:20] carts festival if there was something
local produce or something that we could
[1:28:25] also like hand out to people like apples
or something alternate to a cake and
[1:28:31] everybody wants cake or something and we
can support local farmer
[1:28:36] » or something that orchard north whatever
it's called.
[1:28:39] » Yeah. Yeah.
connect with a local farmer and find a
[1:28:43] something that like doesn't have to be
packaged or anything and we can just
[1:28:48] have that available.
>> Okay, I'll double check with them. I
[1:28:51] just I know what I asked in the past is
when we gave they gave us away a little
[1:28:56] bit food away goodies or
>> right you don't want to give away stuff
[1:28:59] that people are there trying to sell.
>> Trying to sell down here
[1:29:03] down here so it was a little bit
different. I forgot I had to have
[1:29:06] something in the park.
>> May want to be more conscious of that. I
[1:29:11] mean, just oranges do the cake.
>> I'm sure we've got local orange trees
[1:29:16] somewhere, right?
[1:29:22] » Actually, I was just texting K.
[1:29:30] » I have nothing else.
[1:29:34] If there's no other business, I'll take
a motion to enter into executive session
[1:29:38] for the purpose of discussing
negotiations in which premature public
[1:29:41] knowledge would compromise the position
of municipality.
[1:29:44] » We'll make that motion. All right.
>> Seconded. Any further discussion?
[1:29:49] » All those in favor? I
>> opposed. So moved.