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This right is all in general.

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I'm vessel from the licensed division, and Rebecca Grill,

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Michael, staff assistant, to the committee, we'll be joined by modern activists shortly,

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this next in line, and to his left is Adam Stevens, city attorney's office, and search and Glenn Radden of the Milwaukee Police Department.

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The

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first item, number one is 1, 1, 1, 1, 5, 95, emotionally.

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Put into recommendations of the public safety committee relative to the licenses. As I call your name, if you

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Please come forward,

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Regina D. Hard,

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public passenger vehicle license application, is Regina D. Hard in the world.

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Mr. Charlie would move for it to now, based on honor of current.

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It's been moved at the applicants, the application be denied for honor of current.

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There's an objection, your in-or objection, the motion carries.

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Gregory D. Banks, 24.

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You have a seat.

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Any court will explain you, huh?

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You saw me, I found another piece, and I found this.

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I found this. I was concerned that it just a minute.

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You're about to give us the truth.

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So that's your thing, that's your thing.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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We'll start with the report from the police department.

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The 117-2003, the applicant was charging out the kind of manufactured river cocaine, which

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is a felony and possession with an attempt to deliver cocaine, asset felony, and the first

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charge of manufactured over cocaine was a guilty verdict in the circuit court.

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There was also guilty verdict in very kind possession with an attempt to deliver a sentence

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of two years prison, three years extensible vision, six months license suspension, three

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information for each court.

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Thank you, sir. Do you have any comments on the surgeons report?

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I mean, I did what I had to do. I've stayed with them for almost ten years.

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I don't have a lot more people in the morning. He's on a team, all right?

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Questions or comments from committee?

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Mr. Chair, I know that the police report becomes part of the permanent record along with the driving record.

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It's so much.

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Baldwin, 20 moves at the driver's record,

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and please, we've got to be compared

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to come at that record.

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Here in the objection.

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Sorry.

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Sir, when you say you do what you had to do,

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what does that mean?

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I'm just saying,

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I mean,

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there was not enough.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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You know?

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What do you do now, sir?

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Do you have a job?

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Take care of my keys.

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Who would cause you to have or how old are they?

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Two sets of twins, after the fire.

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They're 20 years.

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How do you want to play?

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No, not me.

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They're great to do his license,

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what do you plan to do in with it?

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They're working for the cat company.

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Which cat come here to protect them?

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They're really often do a job if you got this license.

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Well, I called them and they said,

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there was a hand in the show that I had to get a PPO first.

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That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

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Any other questions or comments from committee members?

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committee has been joined by the members?

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Not on probation for this.

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Of course.

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It had happened like two-garden three.

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Mr. Chair, would you vote for the divide items contained in the police report?

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The next item is a public pasture vehicle application for electric tube brown,

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but raise your right hand.

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Do you certainly, if I'm out of the case in Penalty's approach right in the state of Wisconsin,

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that the test of money you have asked to include the Supreme Court truth in nothing but truth?

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Yeah.

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Thank you, Sergeant.

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Intentionally, to those two applicants was charged by Milwaukee County for better with a guilty

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finding of probation, sentenced in post to use, hospital correction in post and state nine months.

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And to one of 2006, that was charged by Milwaukee County for possession of the Tinkle

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Thank you for watching.

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If you found possession of fire, possess, possession of TEC, second of fence, possession

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of a shop called shotgun, slash rifle, and guilty and out.

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Audges with a third charge, a third charge of possession of THC was dismissed by RADN, the existence of three-year state

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for President for his extensive supervision, DAT-20-liced suspended for six months for the first charge.

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Second charge, there was a two-year state prison prepared with a two-year extensive provision,

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and there was a third sentence of 18-month state prison complaint with 18-month extensive provision.

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The application is on probation course, a revision for a possession of the tickle came, until

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30 of 2013.

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A probation for all email sent to a probation for a supervisor and seeing walk-in license

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division in 227-2012.

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Okay, Sergeant, there will also be a winner in a file and from a probation officer,

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indicating

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residents, stability, offenders, maintain residents, stability, reporting issue offender has maintained

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required contacts with agent, police contact while on supervision to offenders not had

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police contact while on supervision, overall level of cooperation while on supervision offenders

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complied with referrals and service designed to adjust criminal arts or needs.

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Any comments on a police report?

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No.

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Like I said, I just tried to tell you to come alive.

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Well, you know, I'm trying to, you know, work a couple of jobs that are given me.

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If I were out of my PPL license, I would have a couple of jobs that.

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If you're granted this license, do you have a job lined up?

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Yes, and we're transits, transits, transits, transits, transits, transits, and also prestige transport.

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And who would you be driving at both those locations, what type of clients?

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Anyhow, and also people that need transportation to knock their guns and stuff?

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Any questions or comments by committee?

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Mr. Chair, I'd move this to you.

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please report and drive me back to become part of the public record as well as the

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probation world.

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Yes, I would like to continue to need to please report and

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drive me back at the probation world by the Department of Art, in the

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injections for an unsorted. Sir, it's been these incidents with the

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disaster on the tentacle key, you were quick to shower, but yet you still

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It was also short, short, short, short, short, short.

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It was a short, short, short, short.

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It was about what it was as my mom had passed.

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She had got deceased in 1997.

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And I haven't had a case of anything in like 20 years.

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So I had run to pass the gun in my house.

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And when I did get caught for possession, the gun was also in my house.

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And it was secured and everything.

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Not around my kids or anything like that.

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And so they just charred me with being a previous fellow with a fire out, but

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Policially short bell, and you means that the

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Shotgun or rifle was altered. Oh, yeah, my that that came from my bad. He's also deceased

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And my mom had it and I took it in my possession

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Oh, I got his muscles. He died in in like 77

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So my mom had it in her position. She died in 97. I took it in my possession

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Okay, it wasn't you're drawing when the police came to rescue and he found it.

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Yes, okay, then it wasn't in case to everything.

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Yes, it was in case to know that.

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Okay, we need you to get out of prison.

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I'll allow you to know.

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Since I had an in or a, oh no, I think I'm on that.

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It's one of those four years.

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You are being tested, right?

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Oh, yes.

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Every time I go through, I'll call anything.

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No, I'll never drag.

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Okay.

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No.

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Problem.

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Right.

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That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

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You have a question?

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Excuse me.

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Excuse me.

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Excuse me.

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This one?

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Yes.

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The issue with the court, the court came with possession with the two.

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Did that occur at your residence?

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We know it didn't.

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Where were you taking any custody?

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Uh, did that mean to us as I was trying to, uh,

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sort of, uh, sell to someone else in the police, uh,

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had gotten, you know, uh, like a residential, like a rest of my area.

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What was that, okay?

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I'm 50-first, then.

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I have been out of no 50-first of the year. Yes, I saw a guy roll shop, sits right there, and have you been affiliated

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with any other group? No, no, no. So this is something that you were doing in your own. Yes. And how long have you resided

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I said, 70, 40 street, this is good.

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I'm not letting my fifth year now.

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If fifth year, yes, what you released into that particular neighborhood?

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Yes.

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And as the police had any contact with that, no, no.

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So it hasn't been designated as a nuisance.

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No, anything of that nature, no, serious.

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And I wonder if he's neighborhood, no,

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no, no, no, nothing.

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It's by a neighborhood parking everything,

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which is a nice base box city, if you, for me,

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with that area.

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So I represent that area, you know?

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Oh, well, yeah, I'm not.

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So it's a matter of, well, yeah.

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There we go.

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So it's a matter of, yeah, it's a matter of, yeah.

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I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

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No trials, I'm raising the questions right now.

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Yeah, I'm not a problem.

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I'm not a problem, but what is it's a problem?

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Oh, yeah, now I'm not a problem, so, okay.

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At the end of the day, when I'm trying to find out

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is that there's a lot of activity up at the park.

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Oh, yes, park.

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Yes.

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And it has been brought to my attention

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That the presence of drugs is up at that part oh yeah, so I I'm willing to give you a

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An opportunity and a chance. Oh, yeah, I'm just going to stay and I know I don't I don't never hang in the park anything like that

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So it's not yeah

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When you say me mr. Burr. Yes, it may not be you. Okay, but folks can be in floor. It's don't you dirt

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Yes, and so I just need to make sure that

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You know those folks who live in any area

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Those children who live in that area, yes,

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does not have an undoing floor and some giving them

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to an illegal gate.

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Oh, yeah, exactly, okay.

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Unstep, all right.

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Mr. Chairman, if there's no other questions,

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I'd move for, let me just say this, Mr. Brown.

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You must have a very good relationship with your probation

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and parole officer.

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Yes, sir.

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They have given you a very good recommendation

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that you have complied since you've been out.

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Oh, yes.

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And also there are some stipulations that I know that you have to let it.

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Yes, that they are requesting that you continue to hold.

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Oh, yeah.

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And so, I just need to make sure that as we continue this nine long, as you're all the men also.

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Oh, yeah.

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That we work to make sure that we continue to stabilize that air.

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Oh, yeah. We're in being a problem.

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Yeah, too. I'll make you happy. I'm just proud of you.

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No problem. No make me happy. Make your neighbors happy.

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Yes.

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Mr. Chairman, if you move the global despite items contained in the police report, can you

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drive a record?

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Alderman Davis wants to prove the despite items contained in the police and driving

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record at any objections,

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hearing non-motion carries a good look, sir.

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Thank you.

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I got the who are you?

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I got you.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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All right, next time there's a public passenger vehicle, we will application and

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expire at 2 to 3, first 2011 is Victor, come along with us in room.

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Right, this is a new vehicle.

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Do you only have family that are paying some family to support you on the state of Wisconsin?

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Are the testimony you're about to hear, Mr. Chu, so I hope you'll come back to you.

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Thank you.

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And you're so persuaded of answering the record.

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Yes, my name is Mark, and I have C Christopher C, H, I, S, T, O, P, H, R.

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And you will, on time, use a 20.

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20.

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Thank you.

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Sergeant.

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11.

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Officers.

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They're the applicant.

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We had a total of six.

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51 North District.

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The applicant did not have a daily safety checklist or

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trip record.

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Fill it out there for that day.

253
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There's a charge of safety.

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Checkless required and trip record required.

255
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There's a guilty verdict on the trip record.

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citation of the $144 fine, new record of the first violation in the

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school court, on 1228, 2011, and Austro-Beserva Abkut,

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operating a tax cab at Northwater in East Wisconsin, and Austro-Adnology at the

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Taxi Printing of 24, which was suspended by the Wacens Division,

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whilst we stopped the Abkut, who also had an expiry public passage

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via the Wacens, Abkut State Hughes just running years, and now operating as a

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taxi, app can present the work as well as the driver's license, the checker that's probably

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a transportation review of whose driver's license was suspended.

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The charge of operating loss has been, so I guilty verdict through municipal court, 114 dollars fine.

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On one, two of 2012, the lost judge of the opking, test cabinet, number 24.

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Waiting in Texas stand at the intermobile station at 433 with St. Paul.

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The lost red knows that the permanent number 24 will be raised as division, lost response to opking,

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who also had an expired public passenger vehicle license, that I can see he was waiting in his

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licenses to be renewed, he knew it to make money to pay his fines, there was a charge

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of public passenger vehicle printed required in public passenger vehicle license required,

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those are set for a quite date of 618-2012, 321-2012 officers observed that I can operate in a

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to pick up a fairer at 811 East Mason Street.

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The officers had pre-disknowees applicants.

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Public passenger vehicle permit was suspended,

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and his public passenger vehicle license was expired.

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When the same officers had stopped applicant in the past

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and advised him that he cannot operate as tax cab.

278
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The officers filed the applicant in the fairies that airport.

279
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The officers spoke with the fairies that they had.

280
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He paid the applicant for $26 and for us for a trip.

281
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The fairies for this day, he and several co-workers

282
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We're going to use that for transportation.

283
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The APK initially states officers that he took care of his primary licenses.

284
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And when he asked for documentation, or received the APK installed, he missed the left

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there at home.

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The APK was advised again that he can operate as a test cab, a check with that's primary

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transportation and vehicle.

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The driver's license is still suspended.

289
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There's three charges, public passenger vehicle, public required, public passenger vehicle

290
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license required.

291
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in operating loss suspended. There's a court date agreement set for 518-2012.

292
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The Wisconsin Department of Transportation has spent an applicant's travel license for the following,

293
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loan-14,000 loan-44 days for federal pay for future,

294
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1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

295
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1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

296
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1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

297
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12, 2020-2009 days for failure to pay for for church, 12, 2020-2009 days for failure

298
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paid for for church, 127, 2012 or 54 years for failure to pay for for church, 360-12 or

299
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20 days for failure to pay for for church.

300
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Thank you.

301
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Any comment?

302
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Questions on a please report?

303
00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:40,910
Well, I would briefly say this for the community.

304
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This was a situation in, of course,

305
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particularly, I can elaborate more.

306
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A situation whereby he had attempted to pay for his license back

307
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in October was a situation where his check had had a non-sufficient funds.

308
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There was a tax lien, some money had been taken out.

309
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His account, based off of that, from the department,

310
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was not an apartment of revenue.

311
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So, basically, this came about as a financial hardship on him, he wasn't able to pay fine.

312
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His suspension, that's the basis for his suspension, it's not able to pay fine, not because

313
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of issues of bad driving or safety issues, it's minor staining that my client has a very good record

314
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as far as when the passengers are in the vehicle, as far as safety record.

315
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So, really, this sort of thing kind of snowballed from a financial hardship that he experienced at the end of last year.

316
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He has been able to reinstate his license, he has paid all of the required permits.

317
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He's got his license here, I've got evidence of his receipts of paying for the required permits.

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He understands, obviously, the very seriousness of this.

319
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It's his livelihood, and he's here today,

320
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only before you in requesting for a renewal in this understanding

321
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that he's, this is serious.

322
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And I've expressed that to him.

323
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He understands that he's had a PPL,

324
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I believe, for eight, maybe more,

325
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a longer years with no problems, at least that I'm aware of.

326
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And so we're asking for the renewal despite the issues

327
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and let him out of the police department.

328
00:24:22,290 --> 00:24:23,330
Are you driving now?

329
00:24:24,010 --> 00:24:25,730
I'm just running as a railway driver.

330
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:28,690
Are you driving a cab now?

331
00:24:28,770 --> 00:24:30,610
No. Who do you work for?

332
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:32,110
Self-employed sir.

333
00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:34,210
I'm self-employed.

334
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:34,830
You're self-employed.

335
00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:36,010
My mother was a permit.

336
00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:37,110
Okay.

337
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:40,070
And so I would work for her.

338
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She depends on my being the money.

339
00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:45,310
You know, I ain't hurt your rent.

340
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:54,730
And as I look at the driving record, there is an operating loss suspended, the speeding defector

341
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speedometer, which is a COVID-19 speeding operating without a driver's license.

342
00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:03,960
Comparter insurance, no insurance.

343
00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:07,060
Stopping violation.

344
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800
You must be glad you're driving driving record as well.

345
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:23,460
So that's Mr. Stuffer's and my personal, you know, I didn't realize it. What I do in my personal life, what I've made my PPL. I never realized that.

346
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:35,740
I thought it was brought up to my attention, you know, to wait, but I am a motorcycle and, you know, sometimes I go a little fast.

347
00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:48,060
Another incident when I was working as a taxi driver, one of the, not a bridge close by, but basically from visiting team came to town, had to make a middle park as fast as possible.

348
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:50,500
Well, that's how I got one of the speed tickets.

349
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,900
Take him out of the place to be in the apartment.

350
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,860
Can you probably make just those circles for two?

351
00:25:56,940 --> 00:25:57,480
Thank you.

352
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,200
I'll tell you.

353
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:04,780
I don't know that people change their habits

354
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,600
when they go from their personal vehicle to the work vehicle.

355
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:12,060
So what you do on your off time

356
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:15,840
does reflect what you're doing on the job as well.

357
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,360
I've yet to find anybody who really

358
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,280
was a doctor, Jacqueline, Mr. Hyatt,

359
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,640
You must eat just personalities for me when you go to work.

360
00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:26,200
I've been driving, I haven't seen you at all.

361
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,420
So I've been driving for many years, and at least for eight years,

362
00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:35,300
seven years, I haven't been taking it from, you know,

363
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,040
I'm going to try, it's a lot of responsibility.

364
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,360
You can, you know, kill somebody and, you know, to make try.

365
00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:45,080
So I'm very responsible for safety classes.

366
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:52,220
It was just one of those things where I happened to run a little bit faster, I liked to catch a light

367
00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:57,680
and they also have an appeal at that time. That's all it is. But I know safety conditions.

368
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600
And I wish I would remember I could wear a lot of letters for my customers.

369
00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:06,740
Everybody at dinner in the live, to them to come and talk to everybody to tell me,

370
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,120
thank you for the self-writes. A lot of comments like that.

371
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,860
I could, no, no, I would have brought a lot of letters. I get that a lot.

372
00:27:15,420 --> 00:27:19,860
I know my sense that I'm now responsible to open out the open arms there.

373
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:23,920
But I'll tell you what, if we were taking a further evaluation,

374
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520
like I guess what I'm trying to say is if you have,

375
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,020
if you're saying that an officer just happened to be there

376
00:27:30,020 --> 00:27:33,140
and that was the problem, that's not the problem.

377
00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:36,700
If we'll be time to give this citation, you'll probably

378
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:39,580
hundreds of times that you've violated the law and you haven't.

379
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,080
I've got an assitation.

380
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:48,260
So, the driving both on and off the job reflects what you will be doing, safeguarding the

381
00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:51,420
public, or trying to safeguard the public with a PPE license.

382
00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:52,880
I don't understand that, sir.

383
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,180
I mean, it is my fault to bottom my essence, sir.

384
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,880
I understand that.

385
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Are we in any other question?

386
00:28:00,340 --> 00:28:02,380
Any questions or comments from committee members?

387
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:03,880
Honorable.

388
00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:09,540
Can you take care of all of your outstanding violations?

389
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:10,840
Yes, sir.

390
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,260
I don't think that's outstanding.

391
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:18,250
And how long has it been since you've not had a

392
00:28:20,090 --> 00:28:21,130
political license?

393
00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:23,510
Since October last year.

394
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:28,210
You know that you've been caught by the police department

395
00:28:28,210 --> 00:28:29,230
here operating.

396
00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:31,090
One is the last time that you've operated

397
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:33,790
as in the capacity of the taxi driver.

398
00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:36,010
Well, I'll send a couple over.

399
00:28:37,390 --> 00:28:39,610
So the second or third time?

400
00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:41,370
Second time, sir.

401
00:28:41,370 --> 00:28:41,370
Thank

402
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,880
you.

403
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Mr. Chair.

404
00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:50,280
Fundament 20.

405
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,300
May to make the entire police report,

406
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:55,940
which I was licenseed by the criminal record.

407
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,260
I want to take all in point-a moves.

408
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,960
The drivers record and police report become part of the criminal record.

409
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,260
They're also in the injection.

410
00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:07,360
So, you have a question for the sergeant.

411
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Sergeant, when was this whose license suspended and then reinstated?

412
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:37,220
And the reason I asked that because of the offense on 12, 28, 11, he got a citation for operating while suspended, yet three days later on 0,10, 2,12, he doesn't get that, but then three months after the first violation approximately three months, he gets it again for operating after suspension.

413
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:42,680
So I'm curious why I'm one or two twelve, he did not get sighted for a different

414
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,160
fact he was still suspended.

415
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:50,260
It looks like he's reinstated 1229 or 2011 or he was, okay.

416
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,700
And there he was.

417
00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:53,500
What are the record?

418
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,600
Then twelve, he was also in line of 11 use that.

419
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280
1229 or 2011 he was reinstated.

420
00:29:59,740 --> 00:29:59,960
Then as-

421
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:15,120
1, 27, 2012, there was suspended again for 54 days, and then 3, 6, 2012 there was suspended for 20 days, and then it was reinstated in 3, 26, 2012, so it was in and out of good reinstated and suspended.

422
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:27,920
Okay, thank you. Sir, knowing that your license is suspended, knowing as you stated several times that it is your responsibility, you know, why were you operating?

423
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:33,860
So I wasn't aware of this suspicion into the office of Premier, that was a truth.

424
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:38,020
And then as soon as he told me, I said, sir, I came to have a way back.

425
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:38,900
And they did.

426
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,840
Well, I was in the middle of the 2019.

427
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,740
I was in the middle of the 2019.

428
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,140
I was aware of that.

429
00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:45,560
I would not do it.

430
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:46,700
I would not.

431
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:48,660
Okay.

432
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,060
That's why there was unusual to see that.

433
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:52,960
And that's why I needed that.

434
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,380
That wasn't aware of that, sir.

435
00:30:57,970 --> 00:30:58,770
You had a question, sir?

436
00:30:58,770 --> 00:31:00,770
No, that's a day.

437
00:31:00,910 --> 00:31:03,490
Any other questions or comments from the committee?

438
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:06,270
Is there a motion on this matter?

439
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:08,430
Mr. Chair.

440
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:13,990
I will attempt how to move our 10-day suspension

441
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:17,290
despite I don't contain in a police report.

442
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:21,430
Well, then 20 is moved as we know up for the target.

443
00:31:21,670 --> 00:31:21,950
Thank you.

444
00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:23,710
We know with the 10-day suspension.

445
00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:26,470
I would just by the way, I would just say,

446
00:31:26,530 --> 00:31:28,630
in the solicitor's clarification on the motion.

447
00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:31,570
I would gather it would be as a result of the police

448
00:31:31,570 --> 00:31:35,330
on record every run-in in spite of the court.

449
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:36,030
Thank you.

450
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:36,810
Thank you.

451
00:31:37,210 --> 00:31:39,010
All right, and now that is after he gets reinstated,

452
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:43,270
because obviously he's been explying since 1031, 2011.

453
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,130
So once you get your license,

454
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:48,070
the idea of this is approved, you would be suspended for 10 days.

455
00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:49,670
I've called that sir.

456
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:50,830
For, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

457
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:52,410
for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

458
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:53,690
for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

459
00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:55,110
But this is something different.

460
00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:56,310
This is totally different.

461
00:31:56,770 --> 00:32:01,950
Well, if this goes, that 10 days after you get your license back,

462
00:32:02,190 --> 00:32:04,470
it will be suspended, your PPD.

463
00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:08,910
And also, Mr. Chair, I would move that the receipts

464
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:12,270
of him being paid all those fines and being reinstated,

465
00:32:12,410 --> 00:32:14,270
because you do have a valid driver's license.

466
00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:16,010
You'll start to become part of the permanent record.

467
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:21,750
OK, I would invite him to receive

468
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:29,470
We've become part of the coming record and moves that the license will be removed with

469
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:35,450
a tender suspension despite items complained at all, at least, at least, at least

470
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:35,830
the bond.

471
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,250
We've based upon the police report, based upon the police report, the police report.

472
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:40,070
Thank you.

473
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:43,300
Now, are there any objections?

474
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:44,940
It's your own emotion?

475
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,160
Yes.

476
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:46,900
I'm the motion.

477
00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:48,520
I'm not going to support that motion.

478
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:59,100
And I would support her into all, I think there needs to be a, for my personal liking,

479
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:06,120
a little greater suspicion in particular, it's not just a matter of moving violations, which

480
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,740
he's incurred a couple of them over the last cycle.

481
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,900
But he's had, for my view, a few infractions that show that one he knowingly operated

482
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,320
without public passage of vehicle license.

483
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680
It's so a matter of even a couple of months after the fact

484
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,160
that he received his first infraction.

485
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,880
And on top of that, also it was an in-uncompliance

486
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:35,200
with required requirements on by the 11, 2010, as well,

487
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,800
including the daily safety checklists, the trip record.

488
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:42,180
Those are things that we require.

489
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,420
I mean, those are the big bottom lines.

490
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:46,740
So, it's not as though that these things are unrelated.

491
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,860
We create those rules and regulations for a reason.

492
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:56,420
And I just would like to see a slightly stiffer suspension

493
00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:57,100
for my liking.

494
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,180
So, I want to support the motion we face.

495
00:33:59,260 --> 00:33:59,960
Mr. Chair.

496
00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:01,320
All right, Project.

497
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,420
On the number two item, the daily safety checklist required.

498
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,260
We cannot take into consideration, because he was not found guilty of that.

499
00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:13,260
There was no record of the citation in the Municipal Court.

500
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:18,400
Thank you. I understand, but I had number two in the trip back and required the loss.

501
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:21,400
Yeah, or you mentioned both of them. I just want to bring it to your attention.

502
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:23,900
Any other discussion?

503
00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:29,360
You're sharing one objection to motion carries.

504
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,140
Thank you. Mr. Chair, if I may.

505
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,780
Yes.

506
00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:38,200
The committee will be doing a report of its findings.

507
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,140
A fact in conclusion, the blow I recommend to the Milwaukee Common Council.

508
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,720
The election is being renewed with a suspension of 10 days.

509
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:45,360
you'll see the copy of that report.

510
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,580
The amount of opportunity to file written exceptions.

511
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,580
If you do, they must be received by the City Clerk's Office by 445 PM

512
00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:53,480
on May 16, 2012.

513
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,560
If you submit written objections, you'll also have the opportunity

514
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,860
to appear before the Cabinet Council when it considers its mayor on May 26.

515
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:15,640
In the common council chamber, we hold the federal budget. Please be advised that this report is a recommendation of the full common council. The common council makes the final decision where the elections will be renewed. We need not the suspension between 10 and 20 days. We're not going to do understand that, sir.

516
00:35:15,940 --> 00:35:16,140
Yes.

517
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:18,300
Mr. Christopher, we owe accept service.

518
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:19,340
Under half of your comment.

519
00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:20,120
I will.

520
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,380
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

521
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:22,580
Thank you.

522
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:23,220
Thank you.

523
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:23,920
Thank you.

524
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,580
Sir, do you need to make copies of these documents?

525
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:27,660
Sure.

526
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:28,580
to kill

527
00:35:41,830 --> 00:35:47,550
next item, is this public pass your vehicle application for Danny D.

528
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:54,590
I'm sorry, public pass your vehicle application for Alexander G.

529
00:35:55,150 --> 00:35:56,210
Do you guys are,

530
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:07,180
who is your right hand person?

531
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Do you have only a firm under the means of your health?

532
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,880
He's a purger, he knows that I was kind of saying that the system buddy, you're about to give us a truth,

533
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:13,380
don't you?

534
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,260
I'm not saying that.

535
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,520
I do.

536
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,060
Thank you, Sergeant.

537
00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:22,960
In 1119-2007, the applicant was charged in an academic position of cocaine, and a possession

538
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,860
of THC, both were misdemeanors, and the first charge, possession of cocaine was a guilty

539
00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:32,560
fighting for a certain court, and in terms of guilty fighting for a certain court and a

540
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,680
possession of THC.

541
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,200
There's a sentence of six months' height of correction, of course it stayed 12 months'

542
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:42,900
probation, six months' length of suspension, and so there was a six-day house of correction

543
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:49,280
And in six month basis suspension, at 415-18, the applicant was charged in what kind of

544
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,400
what the toilet kind of is a guilty-finding with 60 days outside the question and a 250-hour

545
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,240
fine.

546
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,480
And on 813-2008, the applicant was say in the sitting rocky for a frequenting and a legal

547
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,140
drug house, that's 24-81 South of the 7th street.

548
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,540
There's a guilty-finding with a $6 and 76-dollar fine.

549
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:10,620
We discussed about the transportation suspended.

550
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,800
We voted up this Thursday for the following.

551
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:14,800
And we're having 20, 2007.

552
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,980
For many days, suspension for underage alcohol,

553
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,580
12, 28, 7, for 6 months for the occasion for outweighing.

554
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,000
After evocation,

555
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,520
8, 22, 2019, your suspension for failure of pay for future.

556
00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:31,660
And he 22,9, 2 years suspension for failure of pay for future.

557
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,220
And 5, 24, 2011, 26, day suspension for failure of pay for future.

558
00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:39,240
Thank you, sir.

559
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,960
There will be comments on a police report.

560
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:47,000
First of all, I'd like to say I'm ashamed, but since then, besides getting pulled

561
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,460
over for driving a lot of the license, I haven't had any kind of police contact misdemeanors

562
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:59,340
felonies, anything for the past three years, I've been doing a lot of community work, trying

563
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:00,440
to get back.

564
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:14,920
The main thing is about four years ago I found a good girl sort of down with, since then I had four children, two of what's unbiologically mine, the fathers ought to picture I stepped up to the plate.

565
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:24,460
My priority now is, you know, I wake up every day to care for them, I breathe to care for them, you know, I'm just a typical good dad.

566
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:36,630
I have a letter of proof for my community service that I've been doing, I've been employed and it's pretty much it.

567
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:44,550
I need this job and I hear it's pretty good income enough for me to support my family and some.

568
00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:47,290
So, this is where I'm at now.

569
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:51,110
Thank you, I need questions or comments, President.

570
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:57,370
Mr. Chair, move that the police report and drive in right to become part of the permanent record.

571
00:38:57,830 --> 00:39:00,270
And, sir, did you say you had something, a letter?

572
00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:05,490
Yes, I have a letter from, well, the community members I've been working with, actually,

573
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:08,210
actually, he's an innocent housing kid, and he sees me now.

574
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:14,030
So, if you would like, I would also ask that letter become part of the permanent record.

575
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:20,430
I'm going to point a move that the little presented become part of the permanent record

576
00:39:20,430 --> 00:39:29,610
along with the police and driving report here in a location so we're able to see any other

577
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:31,710
questions or comments by committee.

578
00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:34,970
Mr. Andrew, we're going to read it into the record.

579
00:39:36,530 --> 00:39:39,250
I'm going to go, sir, if you're going to read the letter into the record, that's fine.

580
00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:48,210
This is from Marie Calbrone, our great coordinator at Latino Community Center Health School.

581
00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:51,250
And they concern us that it is to verify it.

582
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:57,190
As Andrew DiGazza has provided to me, he service work with the Sir at Latino Community Center.

583
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:59,810
His assistant is with another.

584
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:18,480
Youth intervention programs and the administrative work. He was granted different schools with me and talked about making positive choices. He's been an excellent hope to us during our circle groups, which include a member of the DEA's office.

585
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:29,300
He's also come with us to serve the homeless at the New Site. I feel he is a good start by giving back a lot to our community.

586
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:37,760
If you, by him getting this job, you'll be able to help provide for his family in many ways.

587
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,060
I have worked with a lot of people who have made very poor choices in the past, both with

588
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:45,420
God's help, they have really turned.

589
00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:49,620
They would turn their lives around and get back to the community with them.

590
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:51,580
Alexander's one was making changes.

591
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:57,550
That has really been made out of them and thought.

592
00:40:57,550 --> 00:41:03,650
And the government is President Mr. LePo, my current role is just as being a soldier.

593
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:10,530
And the deal of community for a long time is trying to change a lot of young men's lives.

594
00:41:11,610 --> 00:41:15,050
And I'm given the certain challenges that they face, specifically,

595
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:21,660
who are not a legal drug, and also the influence of organized activity,

596
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:27,530
illegal organized activities as far as the gains, and network of what we can do.

597
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:31,830
Senator Sundaker, I'm glad to see that you're trying to get your life together.

598
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:38,850
Stepping up to the play, taking care of children, that's where we need more men to do.

599
00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:45,990
And so this being said and understanding that, you know, the person who is vouching for you,

600
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:51,110
is very well respected, you've got a tremendous burden on your shoulders, not to let him down,

601
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:54,210
because as you let him down, you let your community down.

602
00:41:54,210 --> 00:42:00,650
Mr. Chairman, I would move approval despite items contained in the police report in the driver record.

603
00:42:01,610 --> 00:42:04,550
Mr. Chairman, before we go there, I have a question for the applicant.

604
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:05,390
All in the 20.

605
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:08,350
We have great to dislaces what do you plan to do with it?

606
00:42:09,050 --> 00:42:12,530
I plan to provide for my family first.

607
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:14,310
The idea of a job, why not?

608
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:16,250
I would say pretty much.

609
00:42:16,270 --> 00:42:20,070
I know a few people in the American and other taxi cab.

610
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:28,130
And then you have like desperate need of drivers out here, so I'm pretty confident that I'll be working with the American.

611
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:35,050
I have to echo the comments of Alderman Davis as it pertains to Marty.

612
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:38,490
I personally worked with him at district number two when I was a captain.

613
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:40,550
I have the utmost respect for that man.

614
00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:48,330
And I will say without that letter, I probably would not go along with the recommendation of Alderman Davis,

615
00:42:48,330 --> 00:42:53,790
But because I was on the fence and I do know Marty and I do respect them and I know

616
00:42:54,590 --> 00:42:59,930
all the effort he's doing in the community, you must think very highly of yours.

617
00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:02,410
You would not have written that letter for you.

618
00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:03,570
So, thank you.

619
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:13,330
All right, there's motion by Alden and Davis to approve this license displayed in the book.

620
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:19,930
on the police report and driving record in the driver, in the objection to that motion.

621
00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:24,950
We are not so alert to your choices, but thank you so much.

622
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:34,760
Next item is Danny D. Green, public ask your vehicle application.

623
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:38,740
Is Danny D. Green in the room?

624
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:40,780
Mr. Chai would move.

625
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:51,780
I would praise that. I will have to move for denial based on non-appearance.

626
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Thank you. All of them in preventables for denial based on an appearance.

627
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:57,840
Are there any objections?

628
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,180
Sorry.

629
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,860
The next lesson is the public passage of view,

630
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:07,680
co-application for Emmanuel L. Wilent.

631
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Do you see only a couple of the things in the Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis

632
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,680
of Pellotis?

633
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,980
I was going to say that it is similar.

634
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,220
You're about to give us a true-to-hunter truth in Pellotis.

635
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:30,000
Yes.

636
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:33,490
Surgeon?

637
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:42,360
In 1913, 2003, the applicant was saved by a well-tossed prisoner for disorder, contact with the

638
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Guilty Finding with the fine.

639
00:44:44,780 --> 00:44:48,040
In 1917, 2004, Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis was charged in the county for a substantial

640
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,200
barrier, which is a felony.

641
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:50,780
It was a guilty finding.

642
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:58,580
With 18 months prison imposed and stayed two years extended to provision, three years probation, and two hundred and seventy days house a correction.

643
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,220
On 19 13 2008, the applicant was cited in the city market, from possession of upper tax kits in the vehicle, as an operator, at 6.68 with service-print drive, there's a guilty finding, with a $109 fine, which was referred to collections, but as of 5.2 2012 has been taken care of, and 12.3 2008, the applicant was cited in the city market for the solid conduct, that's 6.01, more titanium, is a guilty finding, with a $105 fine,

644
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:36,060
There's a pass through, a net climate that also has been taken care of as a 5-2, 2012,

645
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,800
and 2-5, 2011, the U.S. is sitting in Milwaukee for possessing open taxes and vehicles

646
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:49,960
a passenger, at 2175 North 35th Street, the guilty-finding 114-dollar fine, and 115,

647
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,260
2011, the U.S. charge and walk in County with the solar conduct, that charge was dismissed

648
00:45:56,260 --> 00:45:57,980
Senate Prosecutor, this motion.

649
00:45:59,020 --> 00:46:00,580
The Wisconsin Department of Transportation, we've

650
00:46:00,580 --> 00:46:03,280
focused, under the circumstances for the following.

651
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:07,320
In 1917, 2011, the crash of 1917, 2003,

652
00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:09,860
for 1997 and days were the case for an act of plans

653
00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:13,160
that would drive a safety plan, and 623, 2010,

654
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120
for 30 days, suspension to a failure to pay for for treatment.

655
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,820
Thank you, any comments I let you report?

656
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,880
Yes, all that's a day ahead of pay.

657
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,540
I'm moved forward.

658
00:46:25,540 --> 00:46:27,860
where my life has been and

659
00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:33,290
one was your most recent violation.

660
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,040
I think they're 2011.

661
00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:44,310
It's the status of drinking in your life.

662
00:46:45,390 --> 00:46:46,730
As far as I was open, it's time to go.

663
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:50,250
I was honestly, I was a pastor at every one.

664
00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:53,010
And he gave everybody in the vehicle a ticket.

665
00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:58,350
So then the first ticket didn't tell you that it was not the right thing to do.

666
00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:59,630
I wasn't the one.

667
00:46:59,770 --> 00:47:01,910
I'd say for the responsibility of what I do,

668
00:47:02,650 --> 00:47:04,830
but I just happened to be in the car with somebody

669
00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:08,430
It was opening time for me, but it's been a while, which every time.

670
00:47:09,250 --> 00:47:10,350
That's how we'd asked you though.

671
00:47:10,570 --> 00:47:13,230
Well, that. Yes, you did work from the first time?

672
00:47:14,010 --> 00:47:14,930
Yeah, but do you know what you were?

673
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:19,050
You don't look around and sit down and see if they got to open beer, anything?

674
00:47:20,350 --> 00:47:20,890
Why did?

675
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:22,650
So I wasn't your beer?

676
00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:24,030
No, I wasn't.

677
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:25,810
I was a passenger in the back seat.

678
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:29,870
Sorry, Mr. Chair.

679
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:33,150
I just...

680
00:47:33,150 --> 00:47:33,870
I'm sorry.

681
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:40,690
I have granted this license, what would you do with it?

682
00:47:41,230 --> 00:47:43,090
I have three jobs these right now.

683
00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:47,570
If I'll get a PPO right now today, the guy from the neighborhood,

684
00:47:47,790 --> 00:47:48,610
why are we today?

685
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:51,130
And I've got a guy from going to transportation,

686
00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:54,370
Sean, Shane, going, who will have me.

687
00:47:54,550 --> 00:47:56,910
And also, Doug, from Legislative Transportation.

688
00:47:59,450 --> 00:48:00,470
Do you have a job right now?

689
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:01,490
Yes, I do.

690
00:48:02,190 --> 00:48:03,050
What are you doing now?

691
00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:06,030
I'm a warehouse delivery driver from Los Lachsville.

692
00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:10,270
How long have you been doing that for six years?

693
00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:15,360
Thank you.

694
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,180
I'll let you in here.

695
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,260
Any questions?

696
00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:19,160
My question.

697
00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:20,720
Oh, my God.

698
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:21,820
Thank you.

699
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,880
It's for a good morning to you.

700
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,160
You've incurred two disorderly conducts

701
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,080
or of course, the last three and a half years or so.

702
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,520
But with the circumstances behind each of them,

703
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:35,800
one was near the end of a way

704
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,700
to one was late in the 11.

705
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,600
I'm not sure I'll provide with more consultation with doctor.

706
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,600
What do we do? What do we do to it?

707
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,960
Adjust the lifestyle and what happens if

708
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,660
When happens in your work situation, you get into something that is not available.

709
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,460
First of all, I don't put myself in a position like that.

710
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:10,220
And if so, I'll walk the other way.

711
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:20,270
7, but was the outcome of the 11, 11, as I was going to say.

712
00:49:20,570 --> 00:49:22,990
This is not a prosecutor's own business, okay?

713
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,760
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

714
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,060
Mr. Jones, pardon me, sir.

715
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,100
I'll be very upfront, Mr. Leader.

716
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:34,960
I'm not going to support your application.

717
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,680
And I'll tell you the reason why I'm here.

718
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,780
You've had some convictions with order of your eye in the past.

719
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:40,460
Okay?

720
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:43,820
And your explanation about opening talks came in the vehicle

721
00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:47,800
that you would not check if anybody else was riding in a vehicle that had

722
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,620
open- and toxicants that you wouldn't look around because I would assume that

723
00:49:51,620 --> 00:49:55,900
that would be something that you would stay far away from if in fact you

724
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:59,540
are answering one of my colleagues question that you return them walk away.

725
00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:08,500
What we didn't get in a vehicle, if I knew the guys were actually drinking a beer, I have an open intoxicant, understanding that I've been convicted in the past of that.

726
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:18,400
So I'm not, you know, at your explanation that you gave to this committee, we expect that the explanation that you gave to this committee is true from.

727
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:28,500
And if, in fact, that is the integrity that you say that, you know, you're getting to a vehicle with anyone who is actually drinking, I don't think that that is becoming for someone who has this license.

728
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,820
So I'll be honest with you. I won't support you like that.

729
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,640
Okay. Any other mischimp?

730
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,380
Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

731
00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:35,240
Both can I?

732
00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:36,300
Mr. Chair.

733
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,820
I would move that the entire police report and driving record

734
00:50:39,820 --> 00:50:41,520
become parted upon our record.

735
00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:45,300
Pointing moves that the police report and driving record become parted

736
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:49,100
of the permit record of any objections here in non-sorted.

737
00:50:49,860 --> 00:50:53,840
And so I was taken back also by your comment of that

738
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,740
when asked about these charges.

739
00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:57,340
You said that was in the past.

740
00:50:57,340 --> 00:51:04,620
But the past is as early as six months ago that you got arrested for disorderly conduct.

741
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,160
At the case of Smith, I understand it.

742
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:07,820
I understand it.

743
00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:12,560
I heard what was said, but it still was an incident that you were involved in.

744
00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:20,940
And then, you know, just over a year, you had the open intoxicate for the second time.

745
00:51:21,820 --> 00:51:25,540
So, okay, that's all I have, thank you.

746
00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:28,380
Any other questions or comments by coming?

747
00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:30,020
Is there a motion?

748
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,040
It's Jim.

749
00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:34,400
Well, it is a move today.

750
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,740
Spive items contained in the notes report based on if he's replaced all of it.

751
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:49,500
I would give this motion our based on items in the place we put in driver record and driving record.

752
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,660
I assume that you will.

753
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:52,760
Absolutely.

754
00:52:04,780 --> 00:52:08,420
I'm sorry the license application has been denied.

755
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:17,270
Next item is a public passenger vehicle application for remote deprecons.

756
00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:26,020
during the inter-ish.

757
00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:29,900
To Zalmi, I found out that the things that have happened are a lot of surprises that

758
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:32,160
they were found, and there's so many you're allowed to do this.

759
00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:33,320
There's a good charge working in that.

760
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,320
Yes.

761
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:44,340
So, as a result, in 1252, that goes to charge market kind of possession with a tent, and it's

762
00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:45,720
door or a cocaine, which is a felony.

763
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,340
It was a guilty finding that three years prisoned for years extended supervision.

764
00:52:50,420 --> 00:52:55,280
$1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $2,000, $2,000, $2,000, $2,000,

765
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,900
The applicant was charged a mock economic possession of a firearm by a felon that had been carrying a concealed weapon.

766
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:10,540
The skill to finding and both charges with three years prison for his extended supervision, and eight months off the correction.

767
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,360
And two-one of 2010 the applicant was convicted in a mock economy.

768
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:19,020
The third required of operating raw tax-cade, first-offence.

769
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,660
I mean, we'll discuss the problem of transportation revoked his driver's license for six months.

770
00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:27,110
Sir, any questions or comments on the please report?

771
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:29,870
I'll everything is accurate, actually.

772
00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:31,790
We'll close it to the mic.

773
00:53:32,330 --> 00:53:33,170
Everything is accurate.

774
00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:35,190
Thank you.

775
00:53:35,850 --> 00:53:36,250
Questions?

776
00:53:36,590 --> 00:53:37,450
Comments by committee?

777
00:53:39,130 --> 00:53:41,650
Mr. Chair, I moved that the entire police report

778
00:53:41,650 --> 00:53:44,090
and I would like to become part of the Department of Record.

779
00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:48,490
It's been moved by the Department of Record.

780
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:50,610
It's been moved by the Department of Record.

781
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:53,130
and please report further from that record.

782
00:53:53,350 --> 00:53:55,230
The injection very non-solvered.

783
00:53:56,290 --> 00:53:58,890
So, grant to this license, what do you plan to do with it?

784
00:53:59,310 --> 00:54:02,190
Well, at the moment, I work every image you've ever been.

785
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:04,810
I'm a union worker, I've been in the union since 1992,

786
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:05,930
level 11, 13.

787
00:54:06,610 --> 00:54:09,090
I got my own transportation company LP, transportation.

788
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:12,910
And I got three drivers at the moment.

789
00:54:13,610 --> 00:54:15,630
And for myself, I need my PPLs.

790
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:18,750
You know, because I got it, I'm getting a contract with a golden living,

791
00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:22,430
I know it's in home, and which are we going to handicap our elderly.

792
00:54:22,990 --> 00:54:24,130
And, um,

793
00:54:25,310 --> 00:54:28,250
everything else I can, you know, in part of your productive pneumonia.

794
00:54:29,830 --> 00:54:31,590
Um, everything, you know, I had.

795
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:34,110
I had some downtime, my life where I messed up.

796
00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:36,990
But right now, you know, everything is part of the productive and, um,

797
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:38,690
I've put myself into high-risk situations,

798
00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:41,030
in which, you know, I ran from one of the stakes,

799
00:54:41,230 --> 00:54:43,670
and I, you know, and now I've been sticking for another chance.

800
00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:44,710
Okay.

801
00:54:45,050 --> 00:54:47,490
Yeah, I've seen it's been, you know, 19 years.

802
00:54:47,490 --> 00:54:52,770
And as it pertains to the major convictions to felonies,

803
00:54:53,970 --> 00:54:56,290
how does alcohol playing your life now, though,

804
00:54:56,370 --> 00:54:59,050
of the most recent one, was a little over two years ago?

805
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:09,440
I mean, for the new year, you know, we're gonna get lucky that they did it. I mean, I got lucky. I don't want to say my house, but I have all this stuff like, when I got on the highway 20s at home.

806
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:26,540
There were there 2700 dollars, right? But I did the classes. I did both classes. So please, you know, we're no problem. I got my license back before the six months. Okay. So, I mean, I would never think I was being a okay, you know.

807
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,920
So what are you trying to drink now?

808
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,820
I'm not going to lie to you, I'm not going to tell you how social you know, I don't get

809
00:55:34,820 --> 00:55:39,340
out doing drinking dry out for me because what I'm going to do now is it's really the other

810
00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:44,960
behind you know what I'm trying to do right now in my life, it's the other family, what's

811
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,480
that I do?

812
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:46,300
How many kids?

813
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:47,220
Half three.

814
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:48,440
That's right.

815
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:50,220
How long have you owned your own business?

816
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:52,480
A year now.

817
00:55:53,420 --> 00:56:02,000
And I like this game slow, so I need to get my cousin, you know, just to care about another van, do my work here, you know, so be a part of mine.

818
00:56:02,140 --> 00:56:02,700
Bye, Venture.

819
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,840
Let's go meet people at the end of the point?

820
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:06,700
Three, three.

821
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:08,000
Okay.

822
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:09,280
That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

823
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:09,700
Thank you.

824
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:11,940
Any other questions or comments, break them any?

825
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:12,820
Mr. Chairman?

826
00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:14,040
Bill, let me do this.

827
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:17,020
Mr. Park is, because I'm your order.

828
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,180
I'm just going for one more stipulation of your misportness license.

829
00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:22,920
I want you to get involved.

830
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,460
in the block, watch over an area.

831
00:56:25,180 --> 00:56:27,260
Yeah, yeah, the yellow people need your help.

832
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:29,120
But they also need to hear your story.

833
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:29,880
Okay, no problem.

834
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,040
I'm right on the corner, 44A, and I know we're here.

835
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,160
So I'm going to reach out to you, listen people,

836
00:56:37,180 --> 00:56:38,560
and I need you to take the time.

837
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Because as you take a look at your area,

838
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:47,200
although this is related to your public passenger license,

839
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,320
indirectly, there's a lot of transportation companies

840
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,720
or clients that is in that area, and what you love it,

841
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:57,880
you probably see the vans picking up.

842
00:56:59,140 --> 00:57:03,000
But from a safety standpoint, we need to talk to our kids about what they should

843
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,380
do and what they shouldn't do, especially during the summertime.

844
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,960
And so, my office is going to be reaching out to you to actually become involved.

845
00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:12,100
Because there is a block-watch cabinet in that scenario,

846
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,740
and we need you to commit the participate.

847
00:57:15,260 --> 00:57:16,000
That's not a problem.

848
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,460
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

849
00:57:18,380 --> 00:57:18,700
Thank you.

850
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:21,580
I need a comment, questions or motion by committee.

851
00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:22,800
We'll approval.

852
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:23,740
This time, sir.

853
00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:25,960
Do I, the Spiderman's container's list,

854
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:29,040
you'll put your make-emotion that he asserts the black watch as well through here,

855
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,740
that part of the motion?

856
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:31,380
It'd be a leader in the committee.

857
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,440
Yeah, no, no.

858
00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:33,700
It's that so.

859
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:35,420
Is it in my head, not a republic?

860
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720
I need this to send back to our health.

861
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:44,420
I would inform those I'm provided the Spiderman's container,

862
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,440
the place report to the New Objections,

863
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,560
You can answer your questions, but you can't you will get your license until I have to

864
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,640
become a council meeting.

865
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:55,940
You don't get it today, just you know that.

866
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,060
Yes, we all have time.

867
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:57,900
All right.

868
00:57:58,260 --> 00:57:58,700
Thank you.

869
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:09,020
Next item is a public cash review of co-application for how we are if you're

870
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:16,540
a

871
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:17,180
established.

872
00:58:21,310 --> 00:58:23,470
There's only a friend on the pants and they don't have his apartment.

873
00:58:23,710 --> 00:58:24,330
He's still a Wisconsin.

874
00:58:24,550 --> 00:58:27,650
The testimony you allowed to give is a truth to him and nothing but the truth.

875
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:28,230
Yes.

876
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:31,120
Thank you, Sergeant.

877
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:37,400
In 2011-2008, the applicant was charged and won the county with normally violated domestic abuse order.

878
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:43,240
It was a guilt-in-finding, with nine months of situation, imposed on state 18 months probation,

879
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:45,300
45 days of high-secretion.

880
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:51,280
For 25-2008, the applicant was charged and won the county with only violated domestic abuse order

881
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,600
and bail jumping.

882
00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:59,440
On the first charge of knowingly violated domestic abuse order, there was dismissed, but right-hand.

883
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,440
Second charge of Bell Triple is a guilty verdict with three days of cross-equation with a $1,000 fine.

884
00:59:05,860 --> 00:59:09,340
And two eleven to ten, the applicant was charged with supporting Connie.

885
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,920
It was stocking, which is a felony, and two kinds of disobey conduct.

886
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,140
And the first charge of stocking, there was a guilty finding with one year of jail.

887
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,720
Second charge of disobey conduct was a guilty finding, 90 days of jail.

888
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:28,760
And the third charge of disobey conduct was a guilty finding with 80 days jail.

889
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Thank you.

890
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:34,200
Any questions or comments on this report?

891
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,820
Let's play at you.

892
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,460
There's always two sides of the story.

893
00:59:40,740 --> 00:59:46,700
For the felony, the stocking, or at the time I was going to take it to court, but the

894
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,300
DA gives such a good deal.

895
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,500
I mean, my attorney's going to be glad you're just to take the deferred conviction.

896
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:59,700
And while I was doing that, me and my wife broke the order.

897
00:59:59,700 --> 00:59:59,960
Thank you.

898
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:22,060
I was in place because we wanted to do the counseling, and when the P.O. said that we'd best not to stop a counseling we needed, which we were seeking Christian counseling, and that's how, that's how I got broken, and that's when I had to give the fellow me, and it's pretty much how that happened.

899
01:00:22,060 --> 01:00:22,500
So,

900
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,600
okay, you've granted this license to the job lined up,

901
01:00:29,740 --> 01:00:32,820
which is a little bit, I have a letter from the employer

902
01:00:32,820 --> 01:00:35,040
in Chip Williams, sent out a lot of most.

903
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,340
He said not to open it until, unless you guys wanted

904
01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:40,780
to have it open, but it's right here.

905
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,660
And I also, it's a little bit, we want to show it.

906
01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:46,420
I would, we'd want to open it, I'll show it.

907
01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:59,320
While you're doing that, Mr. Tri would move

908
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,220
that the, at least you port driving record

909
01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:05,780
and that letter that's being submitted become part of a permanent record.

910
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:10,540
Parliament, point A, Bruce, the police report driving record and order being submitted,

911
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:12,880
submitting, and part of the permanent record and the injection.

912
01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:15,380
Did you have any questions?

913
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,340
When you've heard, thank you.

914
01:01:18,820 --> 01:01:20,880
Mr. Yoraz, how are you, Pralter, Nibyaks?

915
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,640
I understand the first two incidents that we're discussed here

916
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,920
were related to a domestic situation.

917
01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:31,380
I'm going to message the situation between you and your spouse or

918
01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:37,100
perhaps X-Bals here, there's the same material with the stocking incident from 2010.

919
01:01:39,590 --> 01:01:44,150
I don't believe so. I've never been found with her. I guess that's how they label it.

920
01:01:44,330 --> 01:01:47,650
What were the circumstances relating to the stocking incident then?

921
01:01:48,590 --> 01:01:54,490
Well, I don't remember vividly because I was about to look to the one I'm seeing with a friend of mine and he called me

922
01:01:54,490 --> 01:01:58,310
when I was 19th and national, but that they could say,

923
01:01:58,470 --> 01:02:01,350
you know, I had to grab some tacos before I go work out.

924
01:02:01,970 --> 01:02:05,390
And my wife's daughter's dad,

925
01:02:07,590 --> 01:02:10,110
fiancee called me and they wanted to talk about

926
01:02:10,530 --> 01:02:11,830
how her daughter, their daughter,

927
01:02:12,110 --> 01:02:13,730
Asia was an upper-decommit, upper-decommit, upper-decommit,

928
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:17,450
upper-decommit, and she had anxiety attacks

929
01:02:17,450 --> 01:02:19,750
and that her mom was neglecting her and that she had her

930
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:21,770
in a bed, a part of Shabwaygan,

931
01:02:22,450 --> 01:02:24,470
and he, there was a situation where they would

932
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:28,850
want to go through, I'm going to have a lot of them type of thing, and he wanted my help

933
01:02:28,850 --> 01:02:34,490
on that because I used to deal with my wife in Asia all the time, and he knew I knew some

934
01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:40,850
stuff that would help him, I guess, win this case, so he reached out to me and tried to ask me

935
01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:41,350
for help.

936
01:02:41,610 --> 01:02:44,730
And I said, well, I don't know if she's in a bad position or not, I said, I don't know.

937
01:02:45,150 --> 01:02:47,770
I said, we have a restraining order, I can't go nowhere near her.

938
01:02:47,770 --> 01:02:54,090
And this was two years or two months into getting the restraining order and I

939
01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:57,290
blew me, called me in February of that year.

940
01:02:57,690 --> 01:03:17,750
I want to say what I would have not been just a violation of in the violation of a

941
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:25,230
I went up there, he mentioned that she lived in Chiboygan, and I said, well, I can't say

942
01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:29,990
for sure what she's doing, or if they're in a bad position, I said, but I said, if I decide

943
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:34,270
to help, I would just go and see if she wasn't in a bad position.

944
01:03:34,550 --> 01:03:39,830
So what I went up there, I guess it is after two years or me not too much, not dealing with

945
01:03:39,830 --> 01:03:51,190
and abiding by the restraining order, somehow she soon found her to a home because that

946
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:56,830
didn't know if that was her truck or not, and that's when the police pulled me over and that

947
01:03:56,830 --> 01:03:57,250
was it.

948
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:57,670
That's right.

949
01:03:58,110 --> 01:03:59,930
Thank you.

950
01:04:00,050 --> 01:04:01,010
Mr. Chair.

951
01:04:01,930 --> 01:04:02,490
I don't want to point out.

952
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:04,850
That's what stocking uses when you're following somebody.

953
01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:06,170
Well, I didn't.

954
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:08,310
That's the thing is that it's more and better.

955
01:04:08,310 --> 01:04:10,650
I never, I didn't know where she was moving.

956
01:04:10,690 --> 01:04:12,090
This is like when I turned on a pointer,

957
01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:15,350
her car was, I didn't intentionally,

958
01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:17,110
oh, it's okay, okay, all right.

959
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:22,650
What was the wife's name, Divina?

960
01:04:22,910 --> 01:04:24,510
So, Divina, with a bullet.

961
01:04:24,670 --> 01:04:25,570
Are you still married to her?

962
01:04:26,050 --> 01:04:28,930
Yeah, okay, because we're still married.

963
01:04:30,030 --> 01:04:31,910
And I can tell you this too, prior to this,

964
01:04:32,670 --> 01:04:34,350
there was a four year restraining order,

965
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:41,090
And two years into a C called me private, and she wanted to ask,

966
01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:44,070
well, I was going to get this going in the right way.

967
01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:46,890
And I'm like, whatever you want to do, I said, up and running,

968
01:04:47,090 --> 01:04:51,010
you can pick up a counselor that you feel confident with.

969
01:04:51,050 --> 01:04:53,590
And now I'll make it come you up there, do the Christian counseling.

970
01:04:55,870 --> 01:04:59,050
And I just feel that we both have to do some work on our ends.

971
01:04:59,170 --> 01:04:59,990
You're all married to a counselor.

972
01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:10,160
And did you take spend any time on this, for was it deferred? Did you order jail on the stocking in disorderly in February of 2010?

973
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:16,800
Yeah, eight months. Yeah, it was deferred because we were trying to do the Christian counseling and that's when they don't allow.

974
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,440
So does she testify against you in the stocking time? No, my PO.

975
01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:23,460
Asked her, well, are you dealing with IBM and she didn't lie?

976
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,980
She came and asked me and I didn't lie because

977
01:05:25,980 --> 01:05:28,780
the guy's questions you just really can't do that.

978
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,760
And so they pulled it back, you know, and that's how I got the phone.

979
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,540
I was going to take that stocking charge to court

980
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:38,080
because I know I didn't do anything wrong.

981
01:05:38,460 --> 01:05:42,100
But like I said, he gave a two-year probation with a deferred sentence

982
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,360
with 20 days in jail and I said, I can do that.

983
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:49,180
But that being is they got us because of how we were together.

984
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:51,500
So we shouldn't have been, but we wanted to try to do counseling.

985
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,120
So you did 20 days then instead of, at the 20 days,

986
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,360
and then you were being when she asked my wife that she see me

987
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,980
and then she came to ask me that I see my wife,

988
01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:05,260
which kind of book everything and that's when they gave me the extras.

989
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,980
All right, so thank you Mr. Chairman.

990
01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:14,800
Just for the record, the four pieces of literature we're giving here,

991
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,000
Listen to a job offer from St. Anna Rimmel of Shaboygan.

992
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:26,120
Another is the reference and endorsement from jubilation ministries.

993
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:34,680
Another one is endorsement from Jim Prism ministries.

994
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:39,560
And another is a motorized load from a clook at a Walgreens,

995
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:46,400
So when the case of Mr. Hav, Mr. Uyroha, detained a shoplifting suspect that was assaulting

996
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:55,000
the clerk, rather than have to get information, so the police to eventually have not

997
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,000
been shot to the doctor.

998
01:06:56,580 --> 01:07:00,200
So as we did enter that into that, it will be a best of time for the chairman of the

999
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,660
joint.

1000
01:07:01,540 --> 01:07:03,620
I'm just going to get to the chase on this.

1001
01:07:03,620 --> 01:07:09,320
when I, we've got three incidents through domestic related, I think that there's a well enough

1002
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:15,360
explained, the moving violation history is very, very minimal, I would move forward this time.

1003
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:16,840
Despite items contained in the park.

1004
01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:17,640
He did it.

1005
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:26,780
On the motion on the project, I see you're going to get this license if granted, you're going

1006
01:07:26,780 --> 01:07:31,400
to just be a normal service from Shaboyeian and then dropping people off at the airport

1007
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,000
or something and then going back to Shaboyeian, is that correct?

1008
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,680
We need the, I mean, you're not going to operate in the city market, it doesn't look like that.

1009
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,100
No, he just needs to go to our desk.

1010
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,160
Yeah, right.

1011
01:07:41,180 --> 01:07:41,880
Ask through.

1012
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,640
Yeah, he's just going to be passing through.

1013
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:44,520
Okay.

1014
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:46,300
Thank you.

1015
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:50,640
Here's the motion by all of them and board to prove this location and the license.

1016
01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:51,960
So displayed items.

1017
01:07:52,460 --> 01:07:52,760
Oh, God.

1018
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:57,120
In the case report, in the driving record, I don't know what he was doing.

1019
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:57,600
In the injection.

1020
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,860
Here we now saw that.

1021
01:08:00,980 --> 01:08:01,360
Good luck, sir.

1022
01:08:01,580 --> 01:08:01,940
Thank you.

1023
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:02,440
Good afternoon.

1024
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,640
For two-gender only items, one is Brian W.

1025
01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:09,660
You're an agent for a Metro's Cross Street with you.

1026
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,080
Protection LLC, land business, application,

1027
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:18,180
and as agent for Metro, protection LLC, 10 Phoenix Corp.

1028
01:08:18,580 --> 01:08:21,740
In the running letter for Michael Egan,

1029
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,880
the agent for Boniface, and Locke and Corp.

1030
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,840
Rated, land business, application, and as agent.

1031
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,100
out the road and fundify it.

1032
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:35,220
Safe and lack at 3, 6, or 5, from a time of 26th trip.

1033
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:41,720
All you've been told would move a total of item 1, number of file number of 1, 1, 1,

1034
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:47,600
5, 95, or motion of the game to the recommendations of the public safety committee

1035
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,480
road to the licenses and hearing the objection so on and.

1036
01:08:52,020 --> 01:08:56,800
Item 2 on your agenda, file number of 1, 1, 1, 7, or 5, the substitute

1037
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,860
who are investigating the traffic controls,

1038
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,360
and we have the Department is, or I put

1039
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:15,960
President, wanting to share the members of key Bob Bison from the Department of Public Works

1040
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,580
with traffic and street lighting engineering.

1041
01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:25,220
The file before you, we have prepared, and we support the changes that are included in that

1042
01:09:25,220 --> 01:09:26,100
and recommend approval.

1043
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:30,290
Any questions or comments by committee?

1044
01:09:32,180 --> 01:09:37,780
And both of us approved and given no objections or the

1045
01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:41,760
number three is followed

1046
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,520
at 1, 1, 1, 7, or 4, substitute them in the parking control.

1047
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:52,840
Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, similar to the previous ordinance, we've prepared this ordinance.

1048
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,040
We support the changes in our come in approval by the committee.

1049
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,520
Any questions or comments by committee?

1050
01:09:59,260 --> 01:09:59,880
Chair question.

1051
01:10:00,460 --> 01:10:07,860
What's our policy regained? People putting up non-efficial city Milwaukee parking hines?

1052
01:10:08,140 --> 01:10:10,400
Non-efficial parking signs? No parking signs.

1053
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:26,000
They cannot be installed. There's a state statute that requires the only people that can install a type of traffic control, regulatory signs, whatever industry right away are the city of Milwaukee.

1054
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,760
If I touch, you'll go down to the animal station.

1055
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,120
You'll see some variety of signs.

1056
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,040
Do you know what your girl whom made?

1057
01:10:34,420 --> 01:10:36,360
Okay, those are a bit of like that.

1058
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,940
No parking tax is on.

1059
01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:39,920
On the same spot?

1060
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:40,740
Well, take care.

1061
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,080
Thank you.

1062
01:10:43,460 --> 01:10:45,980
Any other questions or comments by committee members?

1063
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,180
I would mention, I would ask Mr. President,

1064
01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:51,200
to see the little work to any sign

1065
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,220
and they'd probably go to the room between the sidewalk and the sidewalk.

1066
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,180
In general, yes, it is to, without some type of permit,

1067
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:04,400
or approval or agreement by the city to install that sign.

1068
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,180
So to grow, advertising is ceased.

1069
01:11:07,340 --> 01:11:09,120
I can be between the sidewalk and the curb.

1070
01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:12,160
And on mediums is easy to go out for anything.

1071
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:14,160
That's correct.

1072
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:19,640
There are some provisions in ordinance that will allow

1073
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,600
some of the type of signing to be installed through.

1074
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,240
again, and it requires the approval of the city to do it.

1075
01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:33,140
So in that case, it would be, in my district, we have freeway detours, and we're

1076
01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:39,000
two, seven, closed, and we have permitted signs to be erected by the state of Wisconsin.

1077
01:11:40,460 --> 01:11:46,380
For the purpose of providing direction to businesses, for instance, to that affected by

1078
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:52,580
a street closure, to be actually assist the businesses in providing the way finding information

1079
01:11:52,580 --> 01:12:01,700
to get them through the, through the construction zones and to be able to guide them into the businesses that remain open in their affected by closures.

1080
01:12:03,380 --> 01:12:06,100
Thank you. Any other questions, commas, by committee?

1081
01:12:06,940 --> 01:12:11,320
I mean, Davis moves approval in hearing your objection, sorry.

1082
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:20,740
I remember four, if I remember one, two, zero, zero, six, nine, and audience relate to your establishment.

1083
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:25,660
Four restops at two intersections on self-climbing to have anyone.

1084
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,820
I'm turning on this item, Mr. Bryson, all of them, Tony Zelensky.

1085
01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:32,180
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1086
01:12:32,860 --> 01:12:38,480
Basically, I've got a couple of residents in the audience here who would like to testify in this after Mr.

1087
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,560
Rice and, you know, speaks.

1088
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:50,220
Basically, speeding has been a serious issue on climate avenue for some time, and there are some people on

1089
01:12:50,220 --> 01:12:53,940
a community avenue that feel that it stops signs or the appropriate way to go.

1090
01:12:54,380 --> 01:13:01,280
And so I wanted to afford those people and opportunity to come by and present their case as to why

1091
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,500
I'm sorry I should be. I'm Clement Avenue. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1092
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:12,280
Mr. Wilson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I want that professor, my comments with

1093
01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:17,300
requirements of state law is, are you probably aware,

1094
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,920
like it or not, the man going to move from traffic control to ISIS is the,

1095
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,160
it's pretty much the gospel of the way we handle traffic control in the city.

1096
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:33,280
There is a state law that requires us to comply with all the components of the federal manual.

1097
01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:41,360
There are two provisions in particular in there that I'd like to point out to you to

1098
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,860
in the prelude to the specific requirements for stop signs and their installation.

1099
01:13:47,740 --> 01:13:49,100
There are two comments that are made.

1100
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:53,580
The first being that Euler's stop sign should not be

1101
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:54,800
used for speed control.

1102
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,480
They're not effective in doing it.

1103
01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:00,560
Research has proven that they do not control speeds

1104
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,040
on the roadway.

1105
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:05,160
Second is that the first stop sign should not

1106
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,000
be installed on the higher volume roadway and was justified

1107
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,280
by an engineering study.

1108
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,060
With that in mind, we were asked to investigate

1109
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:15,860
some of the traffic problems that everyone brought

1110
01:14:15,860 --> 01:14:18,080
up by the neighbors on Clement Avenue.

1111
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,200
And we did consider a lot of different things

1112
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,960
that are pedestrian safety,

1113
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,860
speed of vehicles, accident history, traffic volumes,

1114
01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:32,080
and everything that's required under

1115
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:35,500
state statutes and the

1116
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:37,060
and the uniform traffic control devices.

1117
01:14:37,780 --> 01:14:39,250
A couple of the things that we looked at

1118
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,480
that we always report when we do an investigation

1119
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,020
for an always stop control.

1120
01:14:44,740 --> 01:14:49,480
One is that five of them are reported crashes in the 12th month period,

1121
01:14:50,060 --> 01:14:53,840
on a particular roadway where the always stop is proposed.

1122
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,780
In this case, we would excuse me what did accidents for a four-year period.

1123
01:15:00,050 --> 01:15:13,210
On 2007 to 2011, and the total number of accidents reported to the Milwaukee Police Department in that time was one accident at the court, and no accidents at Idaho.

1124
01:15:13,950 --> 01:15:25,930
As far as traffic volume requirements, the requirement for installation, I'm always stop in terms of traffic volume.

1125
01:15:25,930 --> 01:15:39,410
is that the facility must average at least 300 vehicles per hour for any eight hours of an average day on the main street and it has to average at least 200 per units for the same eight hours on the minor street.

1126
01:15:39,790 --> 01:15:48,010
In this particular case, climate to have a known itself is an arterial railway and it carries over 5,000 vehicles per day in the cross streets.

1127
01:15:48,250 --> 01:15:50,350
We estimate somewhere in the range of 500.

1128
01:15:50,910 --> 01:15:54,190
So, uh, controller that's per day.

1129
01:15:54,670 --> 01:15:56,190
Okay, were you talking to all right?

1130
01:15:56,250 --> 01:15:57,350
I understand, okay.

1131
01:15:57,770 --> 01:16:00,030
But, uh, this is the total volume and that effect.

1132
01:16:00,770 --> 01:16:02,650
Uh, when you look at the hourly volumes,

1133
01:16:03,230 --> 01:16:05,690
it does not need any of those criteria for the installation.

1134
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:06,870
We always stop control.

1135
01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:09,530
So, it does not need the volume, uh, criteria that

1136
01:16:10,170 --> 01:16:12,550
need to be included in the engineering study.

1137
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:15,150
Um, a couple of other things,

1138
01:16:15,150 --> 01:16:18,190
to the generally pertain to President, primarily,

1139
01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:19,690
the residential roadways.

1140
01:16:21,570 --> 01:16:23,590
Climate to have in oneself is not your roadways.

1141
01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:28,290
So these generally not necessarily applicable there, too.

1142
01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:31,190
But it says for other things that

1143
01:16:31,190 --> 01:16:33,550
would be considered our locations where road users

1144
01:16:33,550 --> 01:16:35,330
can't see cross traffic.

1145
01:16:35,550 --> 01:16:38,510
It may be appropriate to install the stop sign there

1146
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:41,310
to gain that extra monochrome safety there.

1147
01:16:41,310 --> 01:16:55,830
And then, too, as an intro, neighborhood streets that smart streets are similar to designing operating characteristics, where multi-laystop could improve the operational characteristics of the intersection.

1148
01:16:56,750 --> 01:17:03,750
It is one of the more qualitative measures under which the always-stop can be controlled.

1149
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:10,450
Generally when we get a request from an ordinary citizen to look at it, we do provide the

1150
01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:18,150
alternative information on the actual technical data that goes along with the study that

1151
01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:25,810
was done and we also look at it once that in discussion with the local government.

1152
01:17:26,110 --> 01:17:31,290
Whether there's any operational improvement that could be taken care of by the installation

1153
01:17:31,290 --> 01:17:38,470
It's always the opposite, and in a lot of cases, it can be installed because there is an operational benefit

1154
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:45,750
installed, and we have not, or disagree with, you know, and the government has desired to move forward with them, too, so.

1155
01:17:46,690 --> 01:17:52,710
A couple of things in note, as I mentioned, the deployment is functionally classified as a minor arterial.

1156
01:17:52,710 --> 01:18:00,890
So, difference between the evaluation, the operational characteristics, is that because it is

1157
01:18:00,890 --> 01:18:06,150
not material, it not only affects the intersection as being studied, but also traffic

1158
01:18:06,150 --> 01:18:14,870
in traffic and safety in the joining streets, and on the roadway itself it affects not only

1159
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:22,050
the pedestrian traffic, it affects the vehicle traffic, and the operating conditions on that roadway.

1160
01:18:23,130 --> 01:18:27,910
We did do at requests of Alderman's landscape too because of the complaints of our speed.

1161
01:18:28,710 --> 01:18:30,930
And we did a wheel of bus, we checked out there.

1162
01:18:31,690 --> 01:18:35,790
And for the time that we were out there measuring speeds with the radar unit,

1163
01:18:36,330 --> 01:18:40,630
the roadway of the speed limit posted of 25 miles per hour.

1164
01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:46,630
The average speed out there was 27.6 miles per hour in the 85th percentile speed,

1165
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:51,430
which is generally an indicator of what motors perceive as a safe operating conditions.

1166
01:18:52,090 --> 01:19:01,070
That was 31 miles an hour and these are very typical of any arterial in the in the city of

1167
01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:07,730
Milwaukee. They consistently are within five to seven miles per hour and many travel arterial

1168
01:19:07,730 --> 01:19:13,130
rotors. Any better than that, you've got excellent compliance. This is a smart typical operating

1169
01:19:13,130 --> 01:19:20,670
condition at a rotor, such as Clement Avenue. A couple of other things to note. Clement

1170
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:24,930
The avenue is a through highway, and it is a minor arterial.

1171
01:19:25,850 --> 01:19:33,370
City ordinances in and of themselves require that be stopped cost traffic for a through

1172
01:19:33,370 --> 01:19:35,070
highway that goes through this city.

1173
01:19:35,390 --> 01:19:40,270
So if this sort of change in your work to be arterialized, there's efforts that it would

1174
01:19:40,270 --> 01:19:45,250
have to be made in there to get a traffic off the climate avenue, and we would have to force

1175
01:19:45,250 --> 01:19:50,330
off to, and then the reason it impacts the other areas, if we force the traffic off there,

1176
01:19:50,830 --> 01:19:55,150
they're going to go somewhere else, be it a residential roadway, for you'll have increased

1177
01:19:55,150 --> 01:19:59,830
the traffic on the side streets or on other materials, and there are congestion.

1178
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,800
Bombs and there, and they may not be able to handle it. So it does have an impact in terms of traffic throughout the area.

1179
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:17,440
Also, it's been our experience. When we install, always stops, an enormous stop and an accurate roadway, there's no cross traffic or people aren't going to stop for them.

1180
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,600
We continue to roll through them. They disregard the stop signs.

1181
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:31,840
And that creates a safety hazard, not only for vehicles trying to cross the street, but for pedestrians that will actually expect the traffic to be stopping for them at the roadway.

1182
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:40,600
They don't do it. It's a potential negative impact of installing that type of assign an arterial roadway.

1183
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:49,980
The last thing that I want to mention to you and probably the most critical factor in this tool is because it is an arterial roadway.

1184
01:20:49,980 --> 01:20:54,960
The traffic on that roadway is solved is controlled by traffic signals.

1185
01:20:55,060 --> 01:20:58,640
In this particular case, we have a traffic signal at KK Avenue.

1186
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,920
And we have a traffic signal at Oklahoma Avenue.

1187
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:05,180
But with that, with the traffic coming down,

1188
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,340
Clement Avenue going northbound and southbound.

1189
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:13,080
The traffic entering that roadway is controlled by the traffic signals.

1190
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:18,300
And the thru traffic is switched through that area in platoons of traffic.

1191
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:22,860
So when they release from their gigat groups of vehicles moving up and down their own way,

1192
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:29,260
which in and of itself creates gaps in traffic that allow us traffic from the side street

1193
01:21:29,260 --> 01:21:32,840
to be able to safely access climate avenue.

1194
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,940
And it also allows longer gaps and more gaps for pedestrian traffic.

1195
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:42,880
What happens when you introduce and always stop in those conditions is we'll take those gaps

1196
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:49,460
And what happens then is you will get vehicles that you are discharging from their

1197
01:21:49,460 --> 01:21:49,980
stop sign.

1198
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:55,860
But once every five seconds I believe it is commonly what it takes to stop and move forward

1199
01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:57,300
again to if they do stop.

1200
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:05,400
So it takes that solid densely packed between a traffic breaks in a part and vehicles going

1201
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,860
up one and one it will reduce the gaps of the old one traffic.

1202
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:18,260
So with that in mind, the value of judgment has to be made and whether there is a possible

1203
01:22:18,260 --> 01:22:24,520
improvement in safety, which in this particular case, the accident reports, and the speeds

1204
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:29,380
do not really indicate that there is something that's absolutely critical that needs to be

1205
01:22:29,380 --> 01:22:29,800
due.

1206
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,580
But there's a significant dollar side to doing that.

1207
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,980
And in this particular case, because of that significant dollar side, I'm not only at

1208
01:22:37,980 --> 01:22:42,380
to intersections, but in the area in general, in the overall performance of your

1209
01:22:42,380 --> 01:22:48,240
material, recommendation was made not to install and always stop control at that particular

1210
01:22:50,380 --> 01:22:55,680
location. Again, there's claims of speeding. When we do these studies and we look at

1211
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:02,680
amount of 24-hour period, we believe we got speeds there indicative of actual operating conditions

1212
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,580
on there. But I have no doubt in every location that we do the speed check. There's always

1213
01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:13,260
going to be somebody that's going through there at an absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous speed,

1214
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:20,240
but it's not actually indicative of the vast majority of people using their roadway.

1215
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,840
Something's going to be taken care by enforcement, you know, I understand too, but you know,

1216
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,920
I don't doubt that there is an opportunity to go on there that is going to speed down their

1217
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:39,280
to. But again, for the most part, the vast majority of vehicles in the vehicle speeds are operating

1218
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:45,940
as we would expect on an arterial hunt nature. So again, the recommendation is not to install

1219
01:23:45,940 --> 01:23:50,520
always stops at these two intersections, because of the potential negative impacts on

1220
01:23:51,340 --> 01:23:57,020
and traffic operation and also safety of the area. Any questions or comments by committee?

1221
01:23:57,020 --> 01:23:57,020
We

1222
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:04,010
have some questions for you, but our first album here from the public, if there are people

1223
01:24:04,010 --> 01:24:06,570
present to testify on this, please come forward,

1224
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:13,960
give us your name and address, sir.

1225
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,640
I want to end your read, 2943, South Clement Avenue.

1226
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:19,500
Thank you very much.

1227
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:23,000
Well, it turns out a cool walkie has a speeding problem.

1228
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:23,780
I'll over.

1229
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:29,720
But I have to say that I disagree with pretty much everything that he has suggested.

1230
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:37,300
And I guess I don't know where to start, but to tell you that with the speed test that was done last year,

1231
01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:45,480
that the response that we got was that they had to replace the device at one point in time because it broke down.

1232
01:24:45,700 --> 01:24:50,140
So the total 48 hour period that you said that it was out is incorrect.

1233
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,640
So we never got a straight answer as to when was it replaced?

1234
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,500
Was it really only after for 24 hours or so on and so forth?

1235
01:24:58,180 --> 01:24:59,960
The other thing about real to please.

1236
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:11,780
The statement of the detector was one block in north of Oklahoma. In what we're talking about is from Oklahoma to KK, which is a five block stretch.

1237
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:25,780
So had we had that speed detector in the middle of that stretch? I think the members would have drastically jumped higher, considering that's exactly where my house is, and even school buses just speed down that street.

1238
01:25:26,740 --> 01:25:33,020
As far as the numbers that he was talking about with the average being about 31 miles per hour,

1239
01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:38,860
that I can't really argue, but if I were to throw all my own statistics or percentages,

1240
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:44,480
that's still 75 percent of all vehicles that were recorded over the speed limit.

1241
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,720
To me, what's the sense of being a speed limit unless we're going to enforce that law?

1242
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:58,180
And I think the majority of that 31 number comes in to play because there are some new vehicles that I go,

1243
01:25:58,820 --> 01:26:02,260
26,000 hour to 30,000 hour in that zone.

1244
01:26:02,620 --> 01:26:10,820
But you still have, and most additional 3,000 cars in that same time period that we're going over 30.

1245
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,180
So for being a residential street, it seems very fast to me.

1246
01:26:16,180 --> 01:26:23,940
When we do the breakdown of numbers, we're talking thousands of cars a day, we have to avoid because they're speeding.

1247
01:26:25,580 --> 01:26:29,240
And it's a narrow section of Clement Avenue. It's the narrowest section all the way along.

1248
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:44,120
So I don't see why putting a couple of four-way stop signs is really going to deter the floor traffic to the point that is going to be a major problem for that section of the city.

1249
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:51,880
As opposed to being a huge asset for safety reasons for everybody that lives on that street,

1250
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:57,460
everybody that is going from humble park to side giant park, because that's on Idaho's,

1251
01:26:57,460 --> 01:27:00,080
when it was main areas that they do cross over.

1252
01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:08,120
There was a comment on that yield signs and cross park signs are not supposed to be used for

1253
01:27:09,860 --> 01:27:14,940
speeders, yet they were installed last year, along with some crosswalk lines.

1254
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,340
There's just so much more to go into.

1255
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:21,520
I mean, if I could invite you all over one night and just have you sit in my front yard

1256
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,760
and watch the school buses, the city buses,

1257
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,300
public works, vehicles, and the speeders,

1258
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,380
the motorcycles, everybody speeds down that street.

1259
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,800
So, I think the numbers are a little skewed.

1260
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:43,240
My research on the highway part, the state does not recognize it as a highway anymore.

1261
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:46,600
I had made a call last year sometime.

1262
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:48,720
I don't remember who I spoke to.

1263
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,100
But I was asking in regards to what they looked at for that street,

1264
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,400
and they said they don't recognize it as a state highway anymore.

1265
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:58,100
It's solely for the city to deal with.

1266
01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:05,920
So, I don't know what more I can beg of you, but two full-way stop signs, really is not going

1267
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:11,140
to deter that much traffic from going other places, it's just going to slow the traffic

1268
01:28:11,140 --> 01:28:11,540
down.

1269
01:28:11,900 --> 01:28:13,580
We're not trying to get rid of the amount of traffic.

1270
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,080
We're just trying to slow it down.

1271
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:17,760
Sorry.

1272
01:28:18,740 --> 01:28:19,780
Thank you.

1273
01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:21,540
There was no one else.

1274
01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:24,600
So let's speak on a social couple more people.

1275
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:25,880
No?

1276
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,220
Thank you.

1277
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:33,740
There's anyone else if you'd please come to the table now.

1278
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,760
I'd like to ask for yourself in your address.

1279
01:28:39,860 --> 01:28:41,260
My name is Katie Browsky.

1280
01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:43,560
My family was at 2-9-1.

1281
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:44,340
My name is self-climbing.

1282
01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:47,380
So just on the street.

1283
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:50,780
I live there all the time.

1284
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,160
I'm there all the time.

1285
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,720
Not just a certain specified time for testing traffic.

1286
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,060
And my mother, I have a young daughter,

1287
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:04,720
I can tell you that the amount of traffic, again,

1288
01:29:04,780 --> 01:29:07,180
we talked about that, but it's just the speed.

1289
01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:10,280
Cars fly down that little stretch.

1290
01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:16,900
The turning off was KK, or coming from Oklahoma, where the speed limit is different,

1291
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:19,520
and they're even going faster than that speed limit.

1292
01:29:19,820 --> 01:29:23,880
And it's a shortcut between those two highly traffic streets,

1293
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,060
And they just continue to drive fast or speak on that.

1294
01:29:27,940 --> 01:29:30,460
And that's all I'm here to say is that, again,

1295
01:29:30,620 --> 01:29:33,360
we witness it every single day.

1296
01:29:33,780 --> 01:29:36,480
I drive 25 miles an hour down that street

1297
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,800
and I can tell you the cars in front of me

1298
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,840
after a few seconds I can't even see them anymore

1299
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,820
because they're so far ahead of me.

1300
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:46,580
There's also, in terms of safety,

1301
01:29:48,140 --> 01:29:49,780
again, we're in the middle of the street

1302
01:29:49,780 --> 01:29:52,640
as Mr. Reed is two or the middle of that stretch.

1303
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:59,960
And when you're looking more, so if you're looking down to KK, there's a little hill there, so if guys are...

1304
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,140
I'm in really fast. It's difficult to see them until they're right upon you. And again, as a young family crossing climate

1305
01:30:10,140 --> 01:30:18,900
avenue to go to Saigon Park, again, is very dangerous too. So it isn't issue and I don't know whether the

1306
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:26,140
four ways stop signs are the solution. Something has to be a solution because again, we live through it every single day.

1307
01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:27,640
Thank you.

1308
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,740
Mr. Chair, I request you.

1309
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,300
Yes.

1310
01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:32,440
I should ask that to the other gentleman too.

1311
01:30:33,860 --> 01:30:39,440
But what have you or anybody in the neighborhood or the elderly can answer these questions too?

1312
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,080
To do preventive measures such as speed boards,

1313
01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:46,720
have you personally called the police and asked for a speed control.

1314
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:48,660
Some type of radar enforcement.

1315
01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:53,200
I know AAA sometimes gives out these free slow down signs.

1316
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,600
What have you done in a community to sort on the traffic?

1317
01:30:58,020 --> 01:30:59,180
I can answer that.

1318
01:30:59,900 --> 01:31:02,400
I've spoken with the captain of the six district.

1319
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,200
I knew him as occasions to get extra police enforcement.

1320
01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:07,200
I'm a particular street.

1321
01:31:08,860 --> 01:31:11,800
And, you know, there have been times where we have gotten extra police enforcement.

1322
01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:13,740
But the police can't keep a squad card.

1323
01:31:13,780 --> 01:31:17,660
It's also dedicated to that street, you know, you know, every single day.

1324
01:31:17,660 --> 01:31:24,640
So we did get a speed board up as well, but I think the studies collaborate the fact that

1325
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,300
when the speed board is up, that slows down the traffic when it's up.

1326
01:31:28,300 --> 01:31:32,780
As soon as you remove it, they're going to go back to the same speed as before, and I forgot

1327
01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:36,560
how many speed boards we have throughout the city was it like two or three?

1328
01:31:37,140 --> 01:31:38,960
So it's on a rotating basis.

1329
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:44,860
So the measures that we've taken, you know, you have addressed it, you know, temporarily

1330
01:31:44,860 --> 01:31:49,500
during that time appearance there, but we just don't have the police resources.

1331
01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:54,760
They have a squad there, you know, every single there, they have the speed board there as well.

1332
01:31:55,340 --> 01:32:01,160
Do you know that when the police obligate their resources to this, how much time is being spent,

1333
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,660
and how many tickets are being written, to collaborate, what they're saying?

1334
01:32:05,980 --> 01:32:11,580
If you have a squad out there for an hour, and they don't get a speeder, then speedy isn't happening all the time.

1335
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:14,340
Do you have any of those stats for us?

1336
01:32:14,340 --> 01:32:16,360
What I'll have to do is, in the future,

1337
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,620
I don't know my normal consultations with the captain of the district,

1338
01:32:19,820 --> 01:32:22,500
is I'll make sure that when we have an officer station out there

1339
01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:26,520
for traffic enforcement, that we maintain a detailed lot of

1340
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,780
how many tickets have been issued.

1341
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,080
In addition, I did have a meeting with Mr.

1342
01:32:33,140 --> 01:32:36,640
Vice at a Mr. Reed to go over some different options

1343
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,500
to try and address this speeding issues on that street.

1344
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,900
If you may recall a few years ago,

1345
01:32:43,900 --> 01:32:45,780
because we all have speedings in our district.

1346
01:32:45,780 --> 01:32:47,980
We introduced a resolution of corporate estate

1347
01:32:47,980 --> 01:32:50,900
to allow for the installation of surveillance cameras

1348
01:32:50,900 --> 01:32:53,600
that were with radar guns, so the tickets could be issued.

1349
01:32:54,220 --> 01:32:57,660
And then that way we wouldn't have to tie up police resource time.

1350
01:32:57,860 --> 01:33:00,560
Unfortunately, the state did not see fit to pass

1351
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,160
that enabling that legislation.

1352
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,540
We'll also pass the piece of legislation on the council here.

1353
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:09,260
Asking to double the fines for cars that speed 10 miles

1354
01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:12,680
or more above the speed limit again, the state declined

1355
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:17,760
And to act on that particular recommendation, and I know from speaking with all of them,

1356
01:33:17,980 --> 01:33:22,600
and then this is, you know, speeding as a serious problem throughout the city, and we're just trying to work.

1357
01:33:22,940 --> 01:33:27,240
And come up with different ways to try and address this particular, you know, problem.

1358
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:34,820
And there's, I don't know if, you know, if she's sure, you know, about the staff signs, but I know the previous speaker is very adamant about, you know,

1359
01:33:35,020 --> 01:33:38,240
staff signs I wanted to for them, and I'm an opportunity to leave their case.

1360
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:39,060
That's fine.

1361
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:44,800
But I also want to make sure that their case is substantiated some way and when I ask the police

1362
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,440
to go out in my district and check speeders, then I ask, how many hours were you out there?

1363
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,760
And what was done during that time period?

1364
01:33:52,060 --> 01:33:55,960
You know, this is how we have to give out tickets, but warnings, what kind of traffic activity

1365
01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:00,140
was generated during the time of obligation you're out there.

1366
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:05,880
And you know, sometimes there's a perception out there and the police are there and they

1367
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,440
we were there for four hours and we didn't get nothing.

1368
01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:11,820
I remember there were times they were out there for one hour and they stopped ten

1369
01:34:11,820 --> 01:34:12,160
cars.

1370
01:34:12,820 --> 01:34:16,180
So it's always good to have that documentation to substantiate it.

1371
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:17,600
Thank you.

1372
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:18,380
Do that.

1373
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,000
I mean, telling you it's a form of police case.

1374
01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:23,900
I don't know if it's still going to disappear.

1375
01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:27,820
It's just to kick you if you're an ideal for yourself and the workers for the wicked.

1376
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:29,140
Right KK for?

1377
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,520
I live at 64, 20 West Dodge, but I used to live in the area.

1378
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:39,740
I also do a lot of business and socializing in the area, and I know the street climate

1379
01:34:40,460 --> 01:34:47,980
chase Oklahoma KK. I often see people 40, even 50 miles an hour, especially like 9 o'clock

1380
01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:56,820
at night. I would agree with Mr. Bison, the stop signs, do not deter the speed and special

1381
01:34:56,820 --> 01:34:59,000
It might, don't just roll right through him.

1382
01:35:00,110 --> 01:35:14,710
Again, it seems in general, and you know, it further from some of the testimonies here, like some of the attitudes of many people in this town that going 5, 10, even 15 miles over to speed limit is all right.

1383
01:35:15,330 --> 01:35:24,730
You know, they don't see the danger and I'm sure there's statistics that must show for every five miles, even if it's a speed limit, even if you're in this speed limit.

1384
01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:42,230
They don't think they're going to get ticketed.

1385
01:35:42,250 --> 01:35:47,290
They know that we can't put it squad cars on every street.

1386
01:35:47,930 --> 01:35:51,510
And they just feel that, well, if they get a ticket once and 10 years,

1387
01:35:53,130 --> 01:35:54,710
they don't think it's going to change street.

1388
01:35:54,710 --> 01:36:05,910
added to. I would like to see some sort of committee to, you know, study and address this.

1389
01:36:06,090 --> 01:36:19,540
It may be public relations, whether it used to come and the TV, public service announcements.

1390
01:36:20,660 --> 01:36:24,740
You know, and I don't know, you know, you might just be banging your head against the

1391
01:36:24,740 --> 01:36:30,960
but the tried to change people's attitude and to get them to realize when they do those

1392
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,860
during day and during other people.

1393
01:36:35,540 --> 01:36:37,740
And they don't care about other people to get them

1394
01:36:37,740 --> 01:36:42,940
to realize they're in day-drain ourselves. I mean, just driving over here today, I had

1395
01:36:42,940 --> 01:36:51,800
at least five incidences of near crashes just because people were in a hurry. And, you know,

1396
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:58,080
Yes, there are attitude, you know, there are thousands of people doing us a day, I don't know how many tickets are given out probably in the hundreds.

1397
01:36:59,700 --> 01:37:01,920
So, you know, it's a very small percentage of them aside.

1398
01:37:03,260 --> 01:37:13,920
I think we had to change people's attitudes that, uh, going five miles over in a residential neighborhood is engaging the kids and the pedestrians in that neighborhood.

1399
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:23,300
take any questions, comments, and committee members, if not certain, to identify yourself

1400
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:24,660
that you would have just predicted?

1401
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:25,380
All right.

1402
01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:26,820
I'm full of microphone calls.

1403
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,440
Good morning.

1404
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,480
My name is Norman Showtice.

1405
01:37:31,540 --> 01:37:34,900
I live at 29, 26 out of Clement Avenue.

1406
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,280
We've owned the properties since 1954.

1407
01:37:40,260 --> 01:37:43,500
And speeding on that street has always been a problem.

1408
01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:53,160
Continuously, we had a major redo of Clement in 1983,

1409
01:37:55,420 --> 01:37:58,760
the state wanted to widen that stretch.

1410
01:37:59,780 --> 01:38:05,500
And we turned it down because we thought maybe a narrower street would slow the traffic.

1411
01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:15,120
We had what these fellows called bumps in the street where they measure the traffic going

1412
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:24,240
right. They come from Oklahoma. They come from Kinnick-Kinnick and they gain speed. Our

1413
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:34,480
section were 20 and I live is probably the peak. They start up from the stop signs like this

1414
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:39,440
We said, they have stopped signs that can't connect here and they have a monocle homo.

1415
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:46,840
Well, by the time they get to our neighborhood, they are over the speed limit.

1416
01:38:47,060 --> 01:38:48,320
Trust me on that.

1417
01:38:49,380 --> 01:38:55,480
Between 4 and 430 and the afternoon, there's a school bus going down.

1418
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:01,560
And we could almost bet the farm, they're all over the speed limit.

1419
01:39:02,180 --> 01:39:09,880
Now, if you want to, like this fellow said, have a cop car there and give out tickets, come

1420
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:14,980
at 4 between 4 and 430 and you'll get a lot of them, trust me.

1421
01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:21,800
It seems like people are coming home for more good that time, and, of course, the school buses

1422
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:30,300
are traveling. It's a problem, really, and I don't know if always stops are going to solve

1423
01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:38,560
it, but something has to be done. Trust me, Logan Avenue, on the same street intersection,

1424
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:44,380
has four-way stops. Now, I am to keep it accountable.

1425
01:39:44,380 --> 01:39:47,320
Assuming that because I'm a part of his own,

1426
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,680
Robon Avenue, that's a very stop.

1427
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,660
I mean, I'm Robon, and I'm in the Koala and I have a hold.

1428
01:39:55,500 --> 01:39:58,330
I'm necessary, but...

1429
01:40:00,050 --> 01:40:29,950
It's very frustrating. We're looking for solutions all these years, and whatever has been done isn't working. Now, in any setting this postcard about the four-way stops, I thought, hey, that doesn't sound too bad. At least, can you can't install one on Idaho and one on Dakota, at least give us one.

1430
01:40:30,050 --> 01:40:32,410
either on either street.

1431
01:40:35,150 --> 01:40:38,090
It doesn't really belong, but

1432
01:40:41,190 --> 01:40:46,470
I was looking at me like, hey, I don't know what I'm talking about.

1433
01:40:47,050 --> 01:40:54,430
But you suggest if you address your remarks to the church, please. I don't know this fellow's name.

1434
01:40:54,950 --> 01:41:01,010
But he knows any personal attack warranted in his case. You address your facts to the church.

1435
01:41:01,710 --> 01:41:07,070
It was mentioned that faraway stops do not deter speed.

1436
01:41:08,650 --> 01:41:10,830
I don't understand. I don't get that.

1437
01:41:11,690 --> 01:41:16,070
If you stop that faraway stops, you're stopped.

1438
01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:19,370
You're not speeding anymore. Are you?

1439
01:41:20,230 --> 01:41:20,930
I mean,

1440
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,320
if they stop.

1441
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,540
Well, that's it. You know.

1442
01:41:27,260 --> 01:41:31,120
And if they don't stop, unless you're up at this table, sir.

1443
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,400
If they don't stop, what's the punishment?

1444
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:38,620
Do they get a traffic ticket?

1445
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:41,980
If they're observed, I please offer, sir.

1446
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:45,260
Well, do they want to be speeding, you know?

1447
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:46,320
You do that.

1448
01:41:47,820 --> 01:41:48,040
OK.

1449
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,680
I don't know what else to say.

1450
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:55,960
I was hoping that these four-way stops would be a solution,

1451
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:07,320
But if state or the city engineer doesn't approve of it, I guess there's nothing you can do, but fight city all.

1452
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:12,000
But I have to find some other way of controlling the traffic.

1453
01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:21,140
So I have to say take it for your testimony. Mr. Bryson, we just have one thing Mr. Chairman, very briefly.

1454
01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:25,720
I am going to be having a meeting with the residents on Clement Avenue and you end Mr.

1455
01:42:25,820 --> 01:42:26,280
Bryson.

1456
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:32,200
You respect of what happens today to go over different options as well.

1457
01:42:32,440 --> 01:42:33,880
So I look forward to seeing you at that.

1458
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,560
No, you will see me, okay.

1459
01:42:37,060 --> 01:42:38,960
Thank you, Mr. Bryson.

1460
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:45,770
Do you indicate if there's one accident in this stretch over four years?

1461
01:42:46,490 --> 01:42:52,290
That's what our record show, and generally the traffic, the idea for a four-way stop

1462
01:42:52,290 --> 01:42:55,730
there's no equal volume, otherwise cars aren't really going to stop.

1463
01:42:56,630 --> 01:43:00,510
And one street here is 515, you're the one about 5,000.

1464
01:43:00,750 --> 01:43:01,290
That's correct.

1465
01:43:01,610 --> 01:43:07,430
So you don't have that balance or my experience is that in the field of the safety,

1466
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:12,910
that when you don't have a reason to stop, people don't go through the next.

1467
01:43:13,050 --> 01:43:14,810
So of course, comes from one, four, spent the next.

1468
01:43:15,150 --> 01:43:18,430
So of course, comes from more, for a traffic signal, because they're not stopping.

1469
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:32,690
I don't know the Syria. The next day or two will down, if your southbound is connecting

1470
01:43:32,690 --> 01:43:38,050
again to me, which meets about eight blocks away, by the way. I believe it's all I have

1471
01:43:38,050 --> 01:43:44,750
with Rome all in chasing the Western. Which would mean that cars that, if you put into two

1472
01:43:45,670 --> 01:43:47,250
that would, in effect,

1473
01:43:50,110 --> 01:43:55,210
be two people from Craig using this as an arterial, and it would probably

1474
01:43:55,210 --> 01:43:59,930
find my experience, I would probably, like what would have find the best route to quickest route,

1475
01:43:59,970 --> 01:44:05,370
which would be down side streets. Usually, especially since they would, in this case, they would have to

1476
01:44:05,370 --> 01:44:13,330
make the right turn if they're on KK, by how I have, you know, grow all the way to a local

1477
01:44:16,030 --> 01:44:18,630
I don't know that I would support this.

1478
01:44:19,050 --> 01:44:20,490
It's also a very narrow street.

1479
01:44:20,750 --> 01:44:24,770
And I know that narrowness does allow the,

1480
01:44:25,330 --> 01:44:29,110
I just psychologically move traffic slower.

1481
01:44:30,930 --> 01:44:32,590
This is probably the natural,

1482
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:34,450
as you stay with the C1KK,

1483
01:44:35,690 --> 01:44:36,910
and the signal at Oklahoma.

1484
01:44:38,190 --> 01:44:40,290
By the traffic, we'll go somewhere else.

1485
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:46,430
The pro-restops, Mr. Brace, insults are indicated to luminous gaps up and down the street

1486
01:44:46,430 --> 01:44:51,230
by having a car up your walk every five seconds. That's the time that you get to walk across the street.

1487
01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:55,550
So this is a no-row word about a 332.

1488
01:44:56,230 --> 01:44:57,050
For the roadway?

1489
01:44:58,010 --> 01:44:59,950
I don't recall what the exact word.

1490
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:11,920
It nevertheless would take longer than five seconds to throw the streets. I personally can't support this, does that's all I have?

1491
01:45:12,020 --> 01:45:25,840
Any other questions, comments from committee? I agree with the result that's probably going to occur here and that is a rejection of the stop sign. I am very sympathetic to the residence concern.

1492
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:36,940
And as the author of the traffic calming ordinance in the city of Milwaukee, and as the representative of the district that has a various number of speed homes in other traffic control devices,

1493
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:43,520
you know, as far as I'm concerned, people should be traveling 15,000 hour or less on all residential streets in the city of Milwaukee.

1494
01:45:44,540 --> 01:45:52,560
I have found that in my study, I have funded all this agreement with the Uniform Code, Mr. Bryson and I are constantly clashing about traffic control issues.

1495
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:57,000
So he believes in moving one more bill, I believe in moving people, and it's just a fundamental

1496
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,560
force out about this agreement, which has carried through the development of urban space

1497
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,620
and urban places in this country for the last 50 years.

1498
01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:09,340
Basically, if you want to slow down traffic, you have to physically obstruct traffic.

1499
01:46:10,140 --> 01:46:12,540
Staff signs do not accomplish that go.

1500
01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:15,000
Traffic signals to a minimal degree.

1501
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,420
Stop speed sign or a relevant ticketing is basically a relevant.

1502
01:46:19,420 --> 01:46:24,360
There's not enough police to do the enforcement and frankly we'd rather have them enforcing

1503
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:28,660
and apprehending violent criminals than city-and-site streets,

1504
01:46:28,860 --> 01:46:32,000
killing right our guns, the installation of physical barriers,

1505
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,180
whether it's speed homes, whether it's boulevard, whether it's bump house,

1506
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:39,500
whether it's speed tables, whatever the case may be, will slow down traffic

1507
01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:42,460
because it makes fast driving physically uncomfortable,

1508
01:46:43,180 --> 01:46:45,560
if not potentially damaging to the vehicle.

1509
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,720
And I take great pride in the fact that there's all kinds of

1510
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,540
squint marks on the downside of our speedhomes,

1511
01:46:51,860 --> 01:46:53,760
which people have bottomed out their transmissions,

1512
01:46:55,020 --> 01:46:56,000
and in a muffler system,

1513
01:46:56,220 --> 01:46:57,660
because they're going over those speedhomes

1514
01:46:57,660 --> 01:46:59,740
to 33,000 miles an hour.

1515
01:47:00,940 --> 01:47:03,620
The solution to the problem is a physical obstruction.

1516
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:05,260
Now, because this is an arterial,

1517
01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:06,900
there'd be a big argument about speedhomes.

1518
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,400
I'll tell you that already, they won't prove them,

1519
01:47:09,620 --> 01:47:11,600
but a bullbide would be approval.

1520
01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:14,580
And I'll direct your attention to

1521
01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:20,060
street between 13th and 16th on the market campus, we installed a very

1522
01:47:20,060 --> 01:47:23,860
tractor bullard, marketed the landscaping, the city did the basic

1523
01:47:23,860 --> 01:47:28,600
infrastructure, and that held dramatically slow down traffic on

1524
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:33,560
well street. It held dramatically improved pedestrian safety for the

1525
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:37,500
hundreds of students that cross well street, coming from the off

1526
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:41,560
campus neighborhood areas to the campus proper. That is a solution.

1527
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:47,680
Now, as an expensive solution, in funding where obviously be a challenge, but that is why we

1528
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:51,220
have a new device in this, so you call a neighborhood improvement districts where neighborhoods

1529
01:47:51,220 --> 01:47:56,160
can get together and basically create what's equivalent to a business improvement district,

1530
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:02,380
basically self-assess themselves and additional search hard on their property taxes for neighborhood

1531
01:48:02,380 --> 01:48:06,780
improvements, which neighborhood improvements could absolutely include such things as curved bump

1532
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:12,920
and the boulevard, and that would at least partially address the funding issue.

1533
01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:15,040
So there are solutions, in my opinion,

1534
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,700
they have to be physical obstructions.

1535
01:48:17,060 --> 01:48:18,780
Stop signs will not accomplish the goal.

1536
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,120
They actually hurt the goal, because you have a false sense of security

1537
01:48:22,700 --> 01:48:23,380
but a stop sign.

1538
01:48:23,460 --> 01:48:25,200
And people are going to assume vehicles are going to stop.

1539
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:26,140
They don't.

1540
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:29,500
And you actually increase the risk to pedestrians crossing the street.

1541
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,020
Now, the whole pertinent business, I've heard these arguments a hundred times.

1542
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:34,740
We were through this constantly internally.

1543
01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:38,740
This one just happens to have been aired out in the birth of an actual formal hearing.

1544
01:48:39,660 --> 01:48:41,440
I believe in every other element on the council.

1545
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,880
Those who are this exercise, because there is a request.

1546
01:48:43,940 --> 01:48:45,220
This is one of something done.

1547
01:48:45,420 --> 01:48:47,160
They are entirely legitimate in their requests.

1548
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,440
A lot of the answers they get are counterintuitive.

1549
01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:52,800
Like the last gentleman saying he can't put you off.

1550
01:48:53,460 --> 01:48:53,860
Counterintuitive.

1551
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,480
How can people speed when they stop?

1552
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:57,040
That is a very good question.

1553
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,780
Except there is some truth to the fact that they will stop.

1554
01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:00,700
That's the problem.

1555
01:49:00,940 --> 01:49:02,000
They are just ignore the sign.

1556
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:09,740
If they don't think the sign is naturally required there or makes sense to be there or just ignore it, physical obstructions.

1557
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,500
Now, you'll get neighbors that'll push back. I guarantee it.

1558
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:18,180
You'll say, I want my freedom to drive as fast as I want, obstruct it.

1559
01:49:18,580 --> 01:49:21,120
I don't want to be restricted in my ability to drive fast.

1560
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:30,540
We've had those fights in our neighborhoods, my own neighborhoods, where people do not want

1561
01:49:30,540 --> 01:49:31,540
the appropriate infringed.

1562
01:49:32,660 --> 01:49:36,860
Others want to control that speed, and we do that strictly in the majority of the

1563
01:49:36,860 --> 01:49:37,460
basis.

1564
01:49:37,780 --> 01:49:40,160
I'll say traffic coming when it's a structure, that's it.

1565
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,100
I was saying this street door, the boulevard of the answer, further near all those traffic

1566
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:49,820
lanes, which will absolutely store the traffic, you want to see them pericle example, go over

1567
01:49:49,820 --> 01:49:55,820
a well-street between 13th and 15th, go over there right now, if not cut a final exam week,

1568
01:49:55,980 --> 01:50:00,000
the last student's moving around and you will see traffic creeping through there at 15th.

1569
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,260
2020, an hour. Frequently stopping to allow pedestrians to cross, even when there's no sign that doesn't

1570
01:50:07,260 --> 01:50:12,700
stop. They just stop because it's the natural thing to do because it's a very intimate, confined environment.

1571
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:17,780
That's right, let's make it said. But in this particular file, I'm not going to support it.

1572
01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:22,320
That because the city doesn't support it, but because I don't think it's going to help you a problem.

1573
01:50:22,620 --> 01:50:29,660
I think there's other solutions to your problem. The more expensive, but nevertheless, this probably won't help the problem.

1574
01:50:29,660 --> 01:50:31,220
Thank you, Governor.

1575
01:50:31,620 --> 01:50:33,600
Convince questions or motion?

1576
01:50:34,300 --> 01:50:37,900
Mr. Chair, I would move to place this item on file.

1577
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,780
It's been moved to place this item on file.

1578
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:42,060
Are there any objections?

1579
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:44,300
I'm sorry.

1580
01:50:45,340 --> 01:50:45,740
Thank you.

1581
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,980
Okay, we're moved to item number five.

1582
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,720
File number one, one, seven, two, one.

1583
01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:54,720
Substitute to resolution relative to the application,

1584
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:59,540
acceptance and funding of the 2012 beach monitoring grant

1585
01:50:59,540 --> 01:51:02,120
in the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

1586
01:51:02,540 --> 01:51:03,460
Good morning.

1587
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:04,420
Good morning.

1588
01:51:04,540 --> 01:51:11,920
Well, business operations manager for the Health Department, before you is an annual grant from

1589
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:17,120
the State of Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for 2012 Beach Monitoring Season.

1590
01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:24,800
It is a 8,717 dollar grant small grant just to help us defray some of the cost of this

1591
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:33,600
for the summer season, it does start very shortly on May 17th, goes through the end of September.

1592
01:51:34,220 --> 01:51:42,620
It does pay for a very small portion of one of our environmental and disease control specialists that helps with this project.

1593
01:51:42,620 --> 01:51:44,480
Does this really post it?

1594
01:51:44,780 --> 01:51:47,160
They put certain colors out or something.

1595
01:51:48,380 --> 01:51:49,800
That's why not that is real quick.

1596
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:52,120
So you're going to say the beach is open on me.

1597
01:51:52,220 --> 01:51:52,600
17.

1598
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,340
No one's going to jump in and get out of the sun.

1599
01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:55,280
Oh, right.

1600
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:56,240
You first.

1601
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,020
You want to get your first time?

1602
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:58,420
No.

1603
01:51:58,620 --> 01:51:59,380
My kids were low.

1604
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,580
I'm tired under.

1605
01:52:01,820 --> 01:52:02,460
What does it look like?

1606
01:52:02,620 --> 01:52:02,920
It helps pattern.

1607
01:52:03,140 --> 01:52:03,720
I'm an emergency.

1608
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:04,760
Badness coordinator.

1609
01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:09,440
And yes, this grant does allow us to advise the country

1610
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:13,320
I would like to post, as a participant, as a bacteria in there.

1611
01:52:14,620 --> 01:52:16,600
All right. Any questions by members?

1612
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:17,520
A little approval.

1613
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,280
I'll move approval.

1614
01:52:19,860 --> 01:52:22,960
This may be referred to the Finance and Personnel Committee.

1615
01:52:23,180 --> 01:52:24,720
Are there any objections to that?

1616
01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:26,060
Here you're seeing on the sort.

1617
01:52:26,420 --> 01:52:26,760
Thank you.

1618
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:28,280
Thank you.

1619
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,380
We will move to item number six.

1620
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,660
Found number one, one, one, seven, two, zero.

1621
01:52:33,980 --> 01:52:37,980
Substitute Resolution, relative to application acceptance.

1622
01:52:37,980 --> 01:52:45,260
You know, funding of the community health improvement in Medcap Park and Concordia saved lives in

1623
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:48,980
the United States grant from the Medical College of Wisconsin.

1624
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:49,660
Right.

1625
01:52:50,140 --> 01:52:55,200
This is a 50 or a 5-year grant that we have received from the Medical College of Wisconsin.

1626
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:04,420
It is in the amount of this year's amount is $14,084 at runs from March 1 through the end

1627
01:53:04,420 --> 01:53:06,220
of February of 2013.

1628
01:53:06,220 --> 01:53:14,620
It does pay for a portion of one of our public health nurses in the immunization program to help with this project.

1629
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:15,720
Okay.

1630
01:53:16,300 --> 01:53:18,900
And what is this less than 14 years of age?

1631
01:53:19,020 --> 01:53:19,740
Lauren County.

1632
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:20,320
Correct.

1633
01:53:21,060 --> 01:53:29,980
It's a research grant to help to eliminate immunization rate disparities within low income and racial

1634
01:53:29,980 --> 01:53:33,180
of populations less than 14 years of age in this area.

1635
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,360
And the Metcalf Park can court yet area.

1636
01:53:36,700 --> 01:53:39,920
OK, and how many people get the immunization?

1637
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,640
Yeah, I promise.

1638
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:42,180
It's all welcome.

1639
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:43,300
You have tried to throw out a question.

1640
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:44,360
Yes, of course, you do.

1641
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:46,560
Angelini, Epidemicologist.

1642
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:51,840
The city itself and all about 1200 children in the project.

1643
01:53:52,380 --> 01:53:54,340
And with those children that participated

1644
01:53:54,340 --> 01:53:57,460
they were able to dramatically increase the immunization

1645
01:53:57,460 --> 01:54:02,400
to those children. They were able to increase the immunization rates in 19 to 35 months,

1646
01:54:02,980 --> 01:54:06,900
so it's from 39% to 69% so it's automatic increase.

1647
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:11,220
That's a great good job. Okay any questions by members?

1648
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:18,080
I will then move forward and move forward approval. This may be referred to the Finance and Personnel Committee

1649
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:22,840
under any objections to that and you see a non-sort. Thank you. Keep up to the work.

1650
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:31,460
I think I am seven is, founder, one, one, one, one, seven, two, two,

1651
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:39,100
substitution, many common console files, one, one, zero, seven, the one, nine,

1652
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:43,920
relative to application acceptance and funding of the end,

1653
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:52,560
It's a rocky grant from M.A.C., it's from through diverse and resilient.

1654
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:59,960
This is adding $25,000 to the existing grant that we received earlier this year.

1655
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,300
Here, actually, at the end of 2011, in the amount of $50,000, so it brings it to $75,000, all of which is contractual

1656
01:55:07,300 --> 01:55:16,020
dollars, most of which is advertising for the acceptance journeys program, or public relations

1657
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:25,020
project that is being run through diverse and resilient. So it is a public service program that

1658
01:55:25,020 --> 01:55:30,100
has been done to help reduce the rates of AIDS and our community.

1659
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,340
Questions, comments, but can we remember, Mr. Chair?

1660
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:40,260
I mean, don't assume that, how is this actually coordinated with our existing community development

1661
01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:46,060
block grant dollars that we get for HIV and AIDS also that we fund the HIV resource enough

1662
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:51,780
with, I mean, which is a dedicated funding, I mean is that we are doing some coordination

1663
01:55:51,780 --> 01:55:59,020
a Marx agency, so that, you know, we're maximized in the money that's coming into the city of Milwaukee, and this is.

1664
01:55:59,420 --> 01:56:03,320
Paul Beidjutsky, director of disease control environmental harfots, excellent questions.

1665
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:06,020
So, this is part of a multi-faceted strategy.

1666
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:13,860
I'm working with diverse and resilient ARCW in other community-based agencies around social marketing to young black MSN populations.

1667
01:56:14,540 --> 01:56:17,880
We're seeing the greatest increase in HIV infection and AIDS.

1668
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:23,940
CDC study done in 2009, and at the age study, here in the city of Milwaukee revealed

1669
01:56:23,940 --> 01:56:32,520
a 218% increase over the period of 1999 to 2008 in that population, young black MSN population

1670
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:38,260
by young and in 15 to 29 years of age MSN refers to many of sex with men who identify

1671
01:56:38,260 --> 01:56:43,760
his either being gay or bisexual, and particularly how it hit our young African-Americans.

1672
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:50,520
of the social marketing campaign is really directed towards minority youth in terms of building

1673
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:55,820
community acceptance, reducing community stigmatization in our community homophobia.

1674
01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:00,060
So, let me go a little bit step further on this particular grid.

1675
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:08,200
This is great going to do our analysis a young man who are infected by a maybe an issue

1676
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:13,040
with the release of incarcerated individuals that may be released back into the population

1677
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,140
and the media call it carrying a virus.

1678
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,060
And if it's not, can we actually track that?

1679
01:57:18,540 --> 01:57:22,980
Because for some odd reason, there has to be a systemic reason

1680
01:57:22,980 --> 01:57:24,520
on why we're saying this uptake.

1681
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,840
And for what I understand, with the disparity in a concentration

1682
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,320
rate in the state of penal system here in the city

1683
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,620
of Milwaukee, and based upon the rules of correction,

1684
01:57:33,940 --> 01:57:35,380
and that we have to ease it back

1685
01:57:35,380 --> 01:57:37,600
into the value in which the offended two.

1686
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:39,680
I'm more interested in finding out

1687
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,140
a different fact that may be one of many indicators.

1688
01:57:42,140 --> 01:57:45,720
Yeah, this grant runs specifically target that core.

1689
01:57:45,940 --> 01:57:52,860
It really is looking at young men as part of the CDC study back in 2009, that identified

1690
01:57:52,860 --> 01:57:59,120
community stigmatization, hemophobia, economic instability, in particular housing instability,

1691
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:06,440
and then high-risk sexual situations, including non-disclosure of HIV infection by older men,

1692
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,440
to younger men, and being the primary culprits.

1693
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:13,700
We do have some limited data on the prison court you're referring to in release back to

1694
01:58:13,700 --> 01:58:14,000
community.

1695
01:58:14,620 --> 01:58:19,360
It isn't the primary driver for the epidemic we're seeing in young black men and this

1696
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:24,640
grant has not addressed the court, it really focuses on social marketing to really reduce

1697
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:30,840
barriers around community stigmatization and overall community homophobia regarding the LGBT

1698
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:31,600
community.

1699
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:33,600
So we're going to apply those statistics.

1700
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,220
Well, we certainly could provide those as are collected by the State Division of Public

1701
01:58:37,220 --> 01:58:38,980
And certainly, we can get you that information.

1702
01:58:38,980 --> 01:58:44,220
Then you please, because I hope this needs to be a discussion amongst the African American community.

1703
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:50,040
Regarding, I mean, if we're talking about incarceration and corrections,

1704
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,840
and if we know that there may be a health issue within side of corrections,

1705
01:58:55,620 --> 01:58:58,760
where it may be at first the effect of your population here and you're wrong,

1706
01:58:59,220 --> 01:59:00,980
there are certainly needs to be an agenda.

1707
01:59:01,300 --> 01:59:05,460
And so if you can help us get the statistical data in order for us to find the discussion

1708
01:59:05,460 --> 01:59:06,520
that would be very helpful.

1709
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:07,820
Absolutely, have a minute.

1710
01:59:08,780 --> 01:59:09,720
Take on, Davison.

1711
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,360
Here we can.

1712
01:59:10,500 --> 01:59:11,280
It's a question, right?

1713
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:11,960
Will it members?

1714
01:59:13,420 --> 01:59:14,940
We have not done it in Davison.

1715
01:59:16,340 --> 01:59:20,220
Who's a provoked and doing more direction-sword.

1716
01:59:20,660 --> 01:59:21,140
Thank you.

1717
01:59:24,060 --> 01:59:26,040
I might eat file number.

1718
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,300
One, two, zero, zero, eight, six.

1719
01:59:29,500 --> 01:59:31,780
Communication for the Commissioner of Health.

1720
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,940
We're leading to infant mortality statistics.

1721
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:36,340
We're on a telecracker agenda.

1722
01:59:36,860 --> 01:59:37,000
Okay.

1723
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:46,600
I ask that this file be added to commissioners recently released statistics in this area.

1724
01:59:47,580 --> 01:59:53,720
I think the committee would like to know where we've been, what the status is now,

1725
01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:56,160
how we got here and where we're going with this.

1726
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,740
This is an item of valuable importance to me.

1727
02:00:03,050 --> 02:00:29,790
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members of the committee, for the opportunity to show a bill to a guardian from a child and be a community local commissioner, joined by Anna Benton, who is the end of the health hospitalization, some administrative and also has a responsibility for a family recovery reduction program. I'll be very brief in the time, and I'll leave most of my time for our dialogue in question, so you may have what I wanted to do,

1728
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:34,830
to just share the recent data every year to data that we are recently put forth regarding

1729
02:00:36,490 --> 02:00:43,650
our 2011 data to highlight some of our progress in the Department and the progress from

1730
02:00:43,650 --> 02:00:49,130
partners in the community and describe how we intend to meet some of the goals that we

1731
02:00:49,130 --> 02:00:54,490
recently set up which at the end board-based levels.

1732
02:00:55,450 --> 02:01:03,770
As I mentioned really, we missed the 2011 preliminary figures and they were yet to be verified by the State of Wisconsin,

1733
02:01:05,250 --> 02:01:14,610
but the real data is that in 2011 tragically and we had a hundred infantry died prior to the first birthday Milwaukee.

1734
02:01:14,610 --> 02:01:19,890
And while this is giving you from deficit tragic and that total strategy, put it in context,

1735
02:01:20,230 --> 02:01:25,150
it is still the second lowest number of infant deaths in Milwaukee's history.

1736
02:01:26,230 --> 02:01:32,590
What that births in terms of a rate in 2001 and a rate from the power of the overall, there's

1737
02:01:32,590 --> 02:01:41,490
2.2 per 1,000 births, and that is a decline from 2010 data, which was 10.4, and we use what

1738
02:01:41,490 --> 02:01:44,250
we call it three year rolling average, which makes it more

1739
02:01:44,250 --> 02:01:45,210
statistically significant.

1740
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:49,350
By race, the breakdown is as follows.

1741
02:01:49,530 --> 02:01:51,710
That's 14.5 for African Americans.

1742
02:01:51,910 --> 02:01:56,330
That's a little uptake from 2010, from 14.4 per thousand,

1743
02:01:56,930 --> 02:02:01,230
for Caucasians, it's down to 5.0 per thousand,

1744
02:02:01,650 --> 02:02:04,750
from 5.2 in 2010 and for Hispanic babies.

1745
02:02:05,150 --> 02:02:10,010
It is 8.0 per thousand, down from 8.5.

1746
02:02:10,010 --> 02:02:14,090
So we still have a downward trend.

1747
02:02:14,530 --> 02:02:21,950
A data and analyzing a data for 2011, we see and expect the trends that we've seen in the past,

1748
02:02:22,270 --> 02:02:28,230
about 30 to 60% of all of these deaths or due to poor maturity and other 20% of due to

1749
02:02:28,230 --> 02:02:34,710
continual abnormalities and about additional 20% due to unsafe sleep.

1750
02:02:35,390 --> 02:02:42,710
So, last year, I'm here a bit and I'm still here as a city we would like to have a go

1751
02:02:42,710 --> 02:02:52,270
by 2017 to reduce the overall rate by 10% by 2017 to 9.4 and to reduce the African

1752
02:02:52,270 --> 02:03:01,890
American from the power of the by 15% to 12.0 by 2017, some positive news here is that

1753
02:03:01,890 --> 02:03:08,630
We've done our three-year rolling average, which I just talked about, which is now a 10.2.

1754
02:03:09,390 --> 02:03:15,750
We are on a downward trend that puts our go-with-and-site.

1755
02:03:16,390 --> 02:03:29,730
We've had in the last several years a drop that's hovering around 14% and certainly over the last six or six or eight years we've seen about a 20% drop.

1756
02:03:29,730 --> 02:03:35,510
But they're still in my way to get done, particularly in the African American, in black and

1757
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:36,470
from Calorie.

1758
02:03:37,190 --> 02:03:40,370
We have a full bond approach, a very quickly direct service.

1759
02:03:40,770 --> 02:03:43,270
We still need to meet people on our community where they are.

1760
02:03:43,450 --> 02:03:47,350
We have to research and evaluate how we're providing those services.

1761
02:03:48,030 --> 02:03:52,970
We have what aggressive public education campaign, and then perhaps the most critical component

1762
02:03:52,970 --> 02:03:54,090
is community partnerships.

1763
02:03:55,430 --> 02:04:01,150
Other ex-service we continue to do the work in the 11 targeted zip codes, as we're going

1764
02:04:01,150 --> 02:04:05,810
to where this is the most difficult and where it's having the greatest impact.

1765
02:04:06,510 --> 02:04:10,390
We'd have some home visitation programs to put about a thousand families living in rural

1766
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:14,430
and we've done about 23,000 home visits and such exceptions.

1767
02:04:14,430 --> 02:04:24,530
And we still provide kids for kids and that we come in contact with, whatever program

1768
02:04:24,530 --> 02:04:30,090
where you can call and get education, we distribute nearly 25 hundred crores since 2009

1769
02:04:30,090 --> 02:04:36,470
and given education to the moms and dad. That's something that's very important. We've

1770
02:04:36,470 --> 02:04:43,330
been a successful and leveraging private dollars for that. We just recently got 50,000 dollars

1771
02:04:43,330 --> 02:04:51,230
We need to talk your foundation for recruits and best of our national foundation, so we've

1772
02:04:51,230 --> 02:04:56,670
been able to provide recruits that I'll give us about a six-month allocation of recruits

1773
02:04:56,670 --> 02:04:58,090
for anyone who needs it.

1774
02:04:59,330 --> 02:04:59,990
We are still...

1775
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:17,200
Sorting every day, we're just tragic, but we have our team chair, we're quickly doing this. Do you have the phone number for the crews that they can call for? So, you know, our TV? Yes, you know, we can dial our, I mean, number, and they can find it on our website 286A, you know, I'm sorry, I'm last at now.

1776
02:05:18,660 --> 02:05:28,740
62521. 232521? We're in 30 yet now, 266. 286. 2521. Thank you. And it's also on our website, and we have a lot of literature out there.

1777
02:05:28,740 --> 02:05:30,080
I don't know if you get to your website.

1778
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:33,820
Milwaukee.gov slash health.

1779
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:34,840
All right, so they're quick.

1780
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:35,620
I know it.

1781
02:05:35,620 --> 02:05:37,480
I mean, I know it is just for the public.

1782
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:39,800
If they want to get this information.

1783
02:05:40,420 --> 02:05:40,620
Sure.

1784
02:05:41,020 --> 02:05:41,720
Thank you.

1785
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:44,500
We've also been a little bit of leverage private dollars.

1786
02:05:44,620 --> 02:05:45,880
I mean, then it will be a little bit of Milwaukee.

1787
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:47,080
Last, probably.

1788
02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:48,520
I think it was significant.

1789
02:05:48,940 --> 02:05:51,500
Grant to have the public 200,000 dollars.

1790
02:05:51,780 --> 02:05:54,320
As they've made infertile to one of four strategies.

1791
02:05:55,140 --> 02:05:58,640
We've also leveraged money from our own community development block grant.

1792
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:03,080
We're about $75,000, which will also support

1793
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,920
groups of kids throughout the rest of the year.

1794
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,520
So we're using tax-labeled dollars in that way.

1795
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,160
We have a great partnership with the Zibbers School

1796
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:14,000
of Public Health, which will soon have it's

1797
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:17,960
been cutting so many on June 7th, but we're excited

1798
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:21,900
about our partnership with that research and education

1799
02:06:21,900 --> 02:06:26,560
institution and the arrival of their founding dean, Dean Peck,

1800
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:31,060
who was an expert in the form of a child in the middle of the childhood health issues.

1801
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:37,580
So there was some synergy there that will come what I'm most excited about is the life

1802
02:06:37,580 --> 02:06:43,520
course initiative for healthy families and as you may recall, this was a $2 million investment

1803
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:49,280
by the University of Wisconsin and Madison School of Medicine and Public Health to invest

1804
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:56,360
into infernal mortality and about a year and a half to years ago they put money on the ground

1805
02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:01,720
to do planning and just a few weeks ago there was a report to the community about that partnership.

1806
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:06,660
We've been at the table of many institutions and agencies and community individuals

1807
02:07:06,660 --> 02:07:12,240
who are at the table and they're just about to roll out their grant process for that and

1808
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:18,200
that's going to have the greatest potential for impact because we have had the opportunity

1809
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:22,640
for two years to plan and look at how that, how that can work.

1810
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,660
So that investment of $10 million by, you know,

1811
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,200
the U.S. Wisconsin and Madison is going to

1812
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:31,640
pay dividends here and we're going to be a part of that.

1813
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,540
The last three points I wanted to make one is that

1814
02:07:34,540 --> 02:07:36,620
you've seen our social marketing campaigns,

1815
02:07:37,140 --> 02:07:40,340
our strong baby campaigns, they've gotten national attention.

1816
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:45,440
We had a cast in call last year that had five new strong babies.

1817
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:46,840
You've seen them on billboards.

1818
02:07:47,380 --> 02:07:49,620
You've seen them on bus tells, you've seen them everywhere.

1819
02:07:49,620 --> 02:07:54,160
and those are actually Milwaukee's babies who are featured there.

1820
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:58,900
We've also seen some of our ads for the dangers of co-sleeping.

1821
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:00,980
And now they were controversial.

1822
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,100
We did increase the dialogue regarding co-sleeping.

1823
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:08,580
And we've gotten your national attention to the time magazine,

1824
02:08:08,700 --> 02:08:12,600
the Washington Post, in the CBC, the view, the debate show.

1825
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,260
They all feature discussions around Milwaukee's ad.

1826
02:08:16,260 --> 02:08:24,560
It wasn't to generate that necessarily that media exposure, but it was to increase the battle all the way here in Milwaukee.

1827
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:31,720
And I think it's just, we are more social marketing campaigns to come to try and reach the individuals we need to reach.

1828
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:36,520
And then we have, finally, our third annual summit on Informer Towers.

1829
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:41,740
We wanted the first large half to Barnes and Nation to do a summit on Informer Towers.

1830
02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:50,020
our first summit on this issue dealt with safe sleep. Then we follow up with some of it on

1831
02:08:50,020 --> 02:08:58,400
being the tour. And on June 6th at the Italian Community Center, we will have a inform

1832
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:03,080
account of the summit on social determinants, testing looking at everything from early childhood

1833
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:09,640
education, employment, transportation, income, all those things impact both outcomes. And we

1834
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:16,220
initially known team note that's coming in and we'll also hear from the other experts.

1835
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:20,380
And that's a way that we want to address this in multi-forms.

1836
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:25,440
So I've handed for the record two graphs.

1837
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:33,340
One that shows how we're tracking our three year rolling average from back as far as

1838
02:09:33,340 --> 02:09:39,420
1895 up to the current date, and you can see a dear depicted graphically what I've described

1839
02:09:39,420 --> 02:09:43,980
earlier in terms of African American Caucasian Milwaukee's overall rate in Hispanic

1840
02:09:43,980 --> 02:09:44,660
rate.

1841
02:09:44,980 --> 02:09:49,120
And then there was one additional graph that could include it, and it's just to give you an

1842
02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:55,740
indication of the complexity of it from Macau, that it is not as simple as many of the,

1843
02:09:55,740 --> 02:09:59,960
And there are so many things that impact the benefit of death.

1844
02:10:00,110 --> 02:10:14,330
Triggers, unsafe sleep, permittivity to buckle up a half-secondhand smoke, accidents, homicides, stress, racism, poverty, housing, transportation, food insecurity.

1845
02:10:14,330 --> 02:10:18,350
So, it's a multi-pound approach that we have to have.

1846
02:10:18,910 --> 02:10:24,290
I will be pleased that we are at the 30-year-old low in our overall rate, second-lose in the history of Milwaukee.

1847
02:10:25,770 --> 02:10:29,670
Yes, but we are not anywhere near being done, there is so much more work.

1848
02:10:29,870 --> 02:10:32,250
We are still a black-white gap in terms of the mortality.

1849
02:10:32,970 --> 02:10:39,770
Blacks are three times more likely to have an infant die of the first birth day than whites in the city.

1850
02:10:39,770 --> 02:10:41,310
And that is true and unacceptable.

1851
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:43,870
We have a lot of work ahead of us to get that plan.

1852
02:10:44,910 --> 02:10:46,250
So we're leveraging resources.

1853
02:10:46,930 --> 02:10:51,930
We will take every tax, let me dollar, and try to get a three-for-one return on

1854
02:10:51,930 --> 02:10:56,730
the investment because we have taken private dollars to leverage the tax, let me

1855
02:10:56,730 --> 02:10:57,150
dollars.

1856
02:10:58,390 --> 02:11:05,730
We have some great staff who are, again, who made over 20,000 visits in the last

1857
02:11:05,730 --> 02:11:09,570
to use, and we need to have a re-double our efforts, and we need to go on the

1858
02:11:09,570 --> 02:11:10,050
re-double it.

1859
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:16,710
So, with that being said, I'm free to answer any questions that you may have regarding this

1860
02:11:16,710 --> 02:11:20,070
current update on it from the power of the reduction in the city of Milwaukee.

1861
02:11:20,710 --> 02:11:28,210
Can we share the, you mentioned this is, does it your second best that we've done, how

1862
02:11:28,210 --> 02:11:29,330
do we stack up?

1863
02:11:29,410 --> 02:11:33,970
I guess ourselves, we look like we're stacking up there and we used to, how do we stack up

1864
02:11:33,970 --> 02:11:37,690
against the rest of the nation, the rest of the world with this trade.

1865
02:11:38,630 --> 02:11:45,670
Well, sadly, Milwaukee still has one of the highest back informat all the way to the nation.

1866
02:11:46,410 --> 02:11:55,530
And when we look at other developing countries, and we have rates that are higher than just about a year or else.

1867
02:11:55,690 --> 02:11:57,210
I mean, Cuba has better rates.

1868
02:11:57,210 --> 02:12:03,210
Sri Lanka has better rates, and many of the countries on the continent, I think I have better

1869
02:12:03,210 --> 02:12:03,710
rates.

1870
02:12:04,930 --> 02:12:10,530
So we really need to zero in on why is that this has to be our whole community's concern.

1871
02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:16,310
While we're having the decline, we're still, and the U.S. is having the decline in many ways.

1872
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:22,390
They're still a gap between the national rates and the Milwaukee's rates.

1873
02:12:22,390 --> 02:12:27,290
So we're going down, but the rest of the country's going down to that we had so far to

1874
02:12:27,290 --> 02:12:27,670
come from.

1875
02:12:28,110 --> 02:12:34,750
So I think that the fact that we're having everyone who's beginning to discuss this issue,

1876
02:12:34,870 --> 02:12:40,530
the fact that some of the front page of our hometown paper as an agenda item and has been

1877
02:12:40,530 --> 02:12:47,130
for the last several years makes it a hot, bad and issue, and it needs to be that way

1878
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:53,670
we can close to get, but quite can't really, we don't feel well when we look at the top 40

1879
02:12:53,670 --> 02:13:00,230
larger cities. It is a lot of work to be done, and it should be to some extent an investment

1880
02:13:01,290 --> 02:13:06,230
for our state and our city that Milwaukee, you know, it's ranked in the lower, lower

1881
02:13:06,230 --> 02:13:13,270
top 40 in terms of recovery outcomes. What would a typical average rate be nationally here?

1882
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:25,230
Well, you know, I'll go forward back to the graph that we've depicted there, but we wanted

1883
02:13:25,230 --> 02:13:36,950
to get to 9.4 over all by 2017, and that would take us within the realm, the middle

1884
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:38,830
of the pack, in terms of national rates.

1885
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:45,990
just look at the satellite black and white, you know, you're working at 5.0, just to think

1886
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:47,850
about where we are.

1887
02:13:48,330 --> 02:13:50,810
We could close the gap in terms of what we're working, you know?

1888
02:13:51,010 --> 02:13:53,030
I mean, at a little bit.

1889
02:13:53,470 --> 02:13:57,990
The most recent data is that I've five to six late overall across the nation.

1890
02:13:58,070 --> 02:14:02,350
That's for everybody in between 13 and 15 per 1,000 for African Americans.

1891
02:14:02,370 --> 02:14:04,110
So we are a bit higher than the national average.

1892
02:14:04,970 --> 02:14:07,250
And the goal is to close that black white gap.

1893
02:14:07,250 --> 02:14:23,130
Because even if we got to 13, we'd be the most African-Americans in most big cities, why is it that we're 13, and then there are Caucasians who are 5 or 6, so why is it that Hispanics are 8 or 9?

1894
02:14:23,850 --> 02:14:32,070
We got to reduce that gap between persons of color, and I think that's where the investment has to be made, and that's where it is being made.

1895
02:14:32,710 --> 02:14:37,610
We're hitting better and in the carcassion rate is getting better and it makes still

1896
02:14:37,610 --> 02:14:43,830
all we come down a little bit but when you put a laser on it we still are far from what

1897
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:44,790
we want to be nationally.

1898
02:14:45,950 --> 02:14:51,430
How do we target the people that we're addressing with the programs and how do we evaluate

1899
02:14:51,950 --> 02:14:52,970
the programs?

1900
02:14:53,770 --> 02:14:59,930
I've got to commend the department and you've had a role for the grant work that I...

1901
02:15:00,050 --> 02:15:14,350
To grant work, we send off a lot of files coming through here that some of them are big dollar amounts, some of them are small dollar amounts, but appreciate that every one of them are adding together to attack this problem.

1902
02:15:14,930 --> 02:15:17,550
But how do we target the areas we're targeting?

1903
02:15:17,890 --> 02:15:30,030
We'll see evaluation, I guess. Lastly, you mentioned in home visits, there was about a thousand of them.

1904
02:15:30,830 --> 02:15:35,250
There's a great deal to do yet, there's a drop in a bucket, are we hitting everybody?

1905
02:15:36,710 --> 02:15:38,850
That was a lot, but do they get a big deal to do?

1906
02:15:39,190 --> 02:15:40,850
Yeah, I'll start with the evaluation.

1907
02:15:41,190 --> 02:15:43,030
I'll have in a talk a little bit about the targeting.

1908
02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:55,350
One of the things that has been done and again going back to the life course model and going back to the fact that there's a community collaboratively to do this is that we're

1909
02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:59,130
find the pump for the last 18 months on,

1910
02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:01,870
on figuring out what is going to be the best

1911
02:16:01,870 --> 02:16:04,470
community-based strategy for Milwaukee.

1912
02:16:04,750 --> 02:16:06,410
There was going to be infusion of money.

1913
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:10,810
It's $2 million over a year for the next five years.

1914
02:16:11,630 --> 02:16:13,370
And there will be grants that will go out.

1915
02:16:14,230 --> 02:16:17,210
So, and we have partnered with many agencies

1916
02:16:17,210 --> 02:16:20,890
and many entities who are going to research and evaluate

1917
02:16:21,490 --> 02:16:23,450
from baseline, how effective we are.

1918
02:16:23,450 --> 02:16:26,810
But the three thing is there's community at the table.

1919
02:16:27,470 --> 02:16:29,730
There's not just the people who are impacted,

1920
02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:33,210
who have been a part of this 18-month planning,

1921
02:16:33,710 --> 02:16:36,690
and others who have lost babies, fathers, who have lost babies,

1922
02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:37,250
who are there.

1923
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:39,370
We're going to bring in into the discussion.

1924
02:16:39,650 --> 02:16:42,890
There's going to be men who are involved.

1925
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:45,190
These are fathers, and that's something that's been missing.

1926
02:16:45,950 --> 02:16:48,230
So we're going to evaluate the effectiveness of that.

1927
02:16:48,250 --> 02:16:50,890
And I think we have the opportunity now

1928
02:16:50,890 --> 02:16:53,450
to baseline some of these methodologies.

1929
02:16:54,290 --> 02:16:58,050
And we will continue to use our feelings from a cloud

1930
02:16:58,050 --> 02:17:00,310
of a beautiful, unfortunate cause,

1931
02:17:00,610 --> 02:17:02,070
those inference will make the miles.

1932
02:17:02,450 --> 02:17:05,590
But we will also know that we're going to have

1933
02:17:05,590 --> 02:17:10,810
the best strategies for these 12 or 13 zip codes

1934
02:17:10,810 --> 02:17:13,430
that have high rates of a little cloud

1935
02:17:13,430 --> 02:17:15,470
that will go in your deal with some of those issues.

1936
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:20,390
So the evaluation piece is going to partly come from the UW

1937
02:17:20,390 --> 02:17:24,890
school medicine and public health course initiative, Center for Urban Population Health, and

1938
02:17:24,890 --> 02:17:30,170
very own Milwaukee Health Department in terms of evaluating how these programs are working

1939
02:17:30,170 --> 02:17:37,090
and will be providing these reports back to this common council and but reports as a collaborative

1940
02:17:37,090 --> 02:17:41,830
back to the community. We had the first one just a few weeks ago and we said, this is what

1941
02:17:41,830 --> 02:17:45,630
we know in terms of our planning and this is how we're going to attack it. We'll have to come

1942
02:17:45,630 --> 02:17:48,870
back in a year and say, this is how it's working. I'm going to have another talk a little bit

1943
02:17:51,590 --> 02:17:55,890
So, every year, we just make sure that we are operating in the correct zip codes, so we

1944
02:17:55,890 --> 02:17:59,970
really analyze where the premature babies are being born, the low birth rate and where

1945
02:17:59,970 --> 02:18:00,970
the infant deaths are.

1946
02:18:01,170 --> 02:18:06,010
So, right now, we're in 12 key target zip codes with a highest percentage of those three factors.

1947
02:18:06,470 --> 02:18:08,790
And we're confident that that's really what we need to focus on.

1948
02:18:09,170 --> 02:18:13,170
So, in turn, when we evaluate our programs, no successes, we'll look at those three factors.

1949
02:18:13,730 --> 02:18:17,870
And we've been really pleased, especially with our empowering families in Milwaukee, which is a

1950
02:18:17,870 --> 02:18:22,910
biggest program. It's a $4.5 million grant from the state. We see rates of prematurely and

1951
02:18:22,910 --> 02:18:27,630
robust weight that are less than half of the average within the zip codes that they're operating

1952
02:18:27,630 --> 02:18:32,950
in. So we know that we are having an impact. When we reach that pregnant woman, early in her pregnancy

1953
02:18:32,950 --> 02:18:37,910
and we can give her the education and the resources, we can actually affect the birth outcomes there.

1954
02:18:38,050 --> 02:18:42,870
So that's a key measure of our success. In the long term, we need to look at whether or not

1955
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:48,070
down and it is. You asked if we're really capturing everyone that we need to be seeing or if

1956
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:53,010
it's a drop in the bucket. It's a drop in the bucket. We have around 10,000 birds each year

1957
02:18:53,010 --> 02:18:59,710
in the city. Many or most of those I would say are two at risk moms. So we're only able to see

1958
02:18:59,710 --> 02:19:05,070
300 to 500 families that I need to give them time. So yeah, it's a drop in the bucket. That's

1959
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:10,410
where we target. That's where we focus on the highest risk areas. If we had many hundreds of

1960
02:19:10,410 --> 02:19:14,130
of dollars, no, many millions of dollars, no, we could do more, but we're doing the best

1961
02:19:14,130 --> 02:19:15,110
without we can.

1962
02:19:17,950 --> 02:19:23,470
You know, collaboration, you mentioned that you'd collaborate, what agencies do you collaborate

1963
02:19:23,470 --> 02:19:28,470
with, who's the leader, you'd see in the group on this problem?

1964
02:19:30,710 --> 02:19:36,950
Well, I've referenced the fact that we support the life course initiative for healthy families,

1965
02:19:38,630 --> 02:19:41,790
and there were a hundred agencies that were working on the form of childhood reduction

1966
02:19:41,790 --> 02:19:50,490
in this community at one time, but there wasn't one convening place, one convening strategy.

1967
02:19:51,330 --> 02:19:54,790
Certainly there was a role for government of public health and we were at the table.

1968
02:19:55,230 --> 02:19:57,550
We're part of the student committee for that life course initiative.

1969
02:19:57,950 --> 02:19:59,990
But the life course initiative money is that we're coming.

1970
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:09,700
Permanison, was just to do what you describe. Was to have a convening body where everyone can to just do the great work that they're doing in terms of the right care.

1971
02:20:09,820 --> 02:20:16,140
We're not changing what we're doing here at the city, but we will work together with others who are doing this on a multi-fone approach.

1972
02:20:16,140 --> 02:20:22,880
So there is a, a, a, a, a, a, a steering committee that we participated on, they're

1973
02:20:22,880 --> 02:20:25,440
who's going to be Grant, stage, and Cease.

1974
02:20:25,820 --> 02:20:26,640
Uh, going forward.

1975
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:33,560
Um, we have, uh, our, uh, as, uh, as, as the public health authority to, um, to lead

1976
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:36,920
where we can, we have our, our programs that have been described.

1977
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:43,100
But right now, the life course is a program that we are, um, embracing, uh, that includes,

1978
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:48,940
The medical college includes a black-up coalition to close the planning council, it includes

1979
02:20:48,940 --> 02:20:54,380
the federal e-commerce centers, it includes the large hospital systems where we can

1980
02:20:54,380 --> 02:20:59,840
claim your St. Mary's favorite children's hospital that are at the table. And the great

1981
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:04,840
thing about this is that we're not trying to emulate what Boston or Cleveland or Chicago is doing.

1982
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:08,800
We're coming up with a Milwaukee model. We've had 18 months of planning to do this.

1983
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:15,180
We have funding to keep everyone at the table, but more importantly, we raise the conscious

1984
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:15,740
of the community.

1985
02:21:15,980 --> 02:21:19,480
You have community folk who are at the table, who are invested so.

1986
02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:25,640
The right course is the vehicle that we're hitting our efforts to and one that we're

1987
02:21:25,640 --> 02:21:27,960
most excited about.

1988
02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:33,640
We're meeting as a collaborator, there was not one convening body, but the right course is

1989
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:38,780
all of us have skin in the game, all of us have one outcome that we want.

1990
02:21:38,780 --> 02:21:47,540
which is to reduce the disparities, they buy into our notion of reducing the overall rate by

1991
02:21:47,540 --> 02:21:52,960
10% and after American rate by 15% the goal of the local solution is to have zero

1992
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:57,940
disparities to compose the gap completely. And that's where we want to go. What we're doing

1993
02:21:57,940 --> 02:22:04,620
at City Health Department is to say we've got to get there in community. We've got to show

1994
02:22:04,620 --> 02:22:11,660
movement of the needle, and by having a 10% reduction, we said a bull go, we only know one

1995
02:22:11,660 --> 02:22:16,380
other entity that has been able to reduce the overall rate by 10%, and that was a city

1996
02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:16,740
of Baltimore.

1997
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:20,640
They did it, but they didn't reduce the African American rate, they bought the whole rate

1998
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:23,020
down, but they didn't bring the African American rate down.

1999
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:29,800
So when doing our research, we put a line in the sand and said, we want 10% by 2017, I hope

2000
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:36,300
come back to this table and said that we would beat that mark or met that mark.

2001
02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:41,120
The life court just wants us to get to zero and I think we'll get to zero one day but

2002
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:47,080
there's going to require a whole community so you will hear much more in the coming weeks

2003
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:51,180
about the life court should have the families and how Milwaukee Health Department is engaged

2004
02:22:51,180 --> 02:22:57,960
with them and we'll hear more about our great work by our dedicated city employees to continue

2005
02:22:57,960 --> 02:23:03,300
This incremental approach to reducing information power in our community.

2006
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:11,140
In the grants written to other agencies that are funded in some of the asset pass through this community,

2007
02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:15,820
are those collaborating partners who are still on the same page.

2008
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:20,700
And I leave our way to see that they're affected and what they're doing.

2009
02:23:20,700 --> 02:23:43,360
I do think that for the first time in a long time, and this didn't happen overnight, it was 18 months of a very difficult, and it times very passionate discussion, all going to be measured by the same accountability, and there are some principles of that accountability and we have to report back to our community.

2010
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:53,500
I think that this is something that we have to go into, I think I'd be a little

2011
02:23:53,500 --> 02:23:56,800
on thought, and I said that everybody's on the same page.

2012
02:23:57,500 --> 02:24:02,680
You know, the Kentucky Daily last week they put horses into the gate.

2013
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:06,540
Other than the jumping and moving around, they had to close the gate behind it.

2014
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:10,160
We, at that point, were pushing all the horses into the gate.

2015
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:15,380
The door seemed to be closed behind us and then I think we had one goal which is to run into a new

2016
02:24:15,380 --> 02:24:17,900
simple metallic and to run this race together.

2017
02:24:18,620 --> 02:24:22,000
The top part has been getting all these horses into the gate running at one time.

2018
02:24:22,180 --> 02:24:26,880
I think we're closer than we've been and my eight or ten years have commercial and I'm like

2019
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:28,640
loving your team work with the city.

2020
02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:33,580
This is a closest I've seen one a core of one focus and in from the tower of adoption.

2021
02:24:35,540 --> 02:24:38,960
And then in terms of evaluation, you'll evaluate the future,

2022
02:24:41,660 --> 02:24:45,280
I'm really asking about how we evaluate our subcontractors, is that correct?

2023
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:48,120
Yeah, we're very, very strict with subcontractors.

2024
02:24:48,540 --> 02:24:52,900
We're very detailed contracts that we sign with them, which lay out exactly what we expect,

2025
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:57,320
what outcomes we expect, we monitor those on a weekly and monthly basis for a program,

2026
02:24:57,480 --> 02:24:58,840
like empowering them as a Milwaukee.

2027
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:11,940
We need regularly as a team, as managers, as staff, they actually go out to home visits as a team. So it's incredibly tightly linked. There's nothing that could happen in that program that wouldn't be under our preview and oversight.

2028
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:17,820
So we're very confident that those programs are meeting their outcomes. If they weren't, we would probably end their contract.

2029
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:21,220
So there's our same page on course looping.

2030
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:27,320
I think that, let me just say one thing that I'll mention course looping, which is certainly

2031
02:25:27,320 --> 02:25:30,520
created a lot of favor of discussion in this community.

2032
02:25:32,180 --> 02:25:38,860
I do think that this evaluation piece, I mean, the fact that this public hearing today

2033
02:25:38,860 --> 02:25:44,160
is a report on different how the reduction is great.

2034
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:52,620
The fact that our media partners and our papers and the journalists are putting this at the forefront,

2035
02:25:53,060 --> 02:25:55,340
they'll put this up to the community's contracts.

2036
02:25:56,020 --> 02:26:00,280
They used to be that when a baby guy here was reported that a baby guy here, now the question is,

2037
02:26:00,420 --> 02:26:05,660
what are you doing and how are you doing and how are you holding the whole Milwaukee community accountable for this?

2038
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:08,720
I think that that is a positive thing.

2039
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:15,560
And so while we're evaluating programs, I do think that if the communities conscious surrounding

2040
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:21,820
infinite death is different than it was four years ago, no, for God to save sleep, we all

2041
02:26:21,820 --> 02:26:25,660
want to do safe sleep in our community. There are certain parts of our community to believe

2042
02:26:25,660 --> 02:26:34,800
that it is still okay and still an isn't way or appropriate way to bid cheer or to have

2043
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:40,320
have been a little there. We are going to walk a health department, give you from that opinion.

2044
02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:47,280
We have stayed at, and about the safest place for a baby. It's, it's in the crib on

2045
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:54,140
its back, in a bed, and in the same room with the God of the Independent. Not everyone agrees

2046
02:26:54,140 --> 02:26:59,760
with that, but everyone agrees that 20% of the deaths that happen to infant's in this community

2047
02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:01,740
can be, and should be avoided.

2048
02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:04,800
We're not backing off of that.

2049
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:07,560
And I know that those are not fighting rules.

2050
02:27:07,660 --> 02:27:11,080
That's just the public talk authority's position.

2051
02:27:11,540 --> 02:27:17,600
But we understand that there are many in our communities who are looking at this issue of site sleep differently.

2052
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:22,680
It's probably the most volatile of all of the discussions around the towering.

2053
02:27:22,900 --> 02:27:26,380
It has created the most intense blogs, the discussions,

2054
02:27:26,380 --> 02:27:31,740
cars, follow-ups and letters that anything I've seen in my two-year self-commissioner.

2055
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:37,040
But it doesn't change the fact that no baby should die in a belt there, because there

2056
02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:44,120
was sleeping with someone in the city. And we can fix that. There's a 100% affordable dust if we

2057
02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:49,600
just take the baby out the bed. So, is everyone on the same page? No. Does everyone believe

2058
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:55,260
that we've got to work on this issue? A bed sharing and co-sleeping absolutely. But I would

2059
02:27:55,260 --> 02:27:59,300
And speaking less than the truth, if I said that everyone was on the same page.

2060
02:28:00,920 --> 02:28:06,260
I guess I would urge you to continue to try to be on the same page and if they're funded

2061
02:28:07,220 --> 02:28:14,020
to grant to prove by this body that there's some leverage that they're going to participate

2062
02:28:14,620 --> 02:28:16,200
as a partner.

2063
02:28:18,980 --> 02:28:21,580
Commissioner Westery ruled out a new program.

2064
02:28:21,580 --> 02:28:27,420
What is the future look like, what's going on for the future in this area?

2065
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:37,400
Well, I think we were pleased yesterday at the Women's Initiative lunch and at the local hotel,

2066
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,780
who we made that a program called Women to Women.

2067
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:48,700
And it is going to hopefully turn from the way that we, as citizens, look at this whole issue

2068
02:28:48,700 --> 02:28:58,800
of infirmary, 100 women, 100 stories, and it's a video campaign regarding every woman sharing

2069
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:05,900
through her own wisdom, what it felt like, what happened, the fears, the joys, what it meant

2070
02:29:05,900 --> 02:29:09,980
to be pregnant, and what they were following in the emotions.

2071
02:29:10,420 --> 02:29:16,540
And even some of them sharing the heart-wrenching stories that I'm a mother by a boy so had

2072
02:29:16,540 --> 02:29:23,820
baby who didn't make it, the best teacher for a mother to be is a mother who is already

2073
02:29:23,820 --> 02:29:32,000
dead. And I think that this video is a great attempt to humanize and to link that these

2074
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:36,040
of Milwaukee's children. It doesn't matter whether you live north or south of the vibe, because

2075
02:29:36,040 --> 02:29:41,280
it doesn't matter whether you are high income or low income. No one on this earth wants to see a baby

2076
02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:46,480
die unnecessarily before it's first birthday. So what we did this important

2077
02:29:46,480 --> 02:29:48,540
relationship with the zippers group by the cow.

2078
02:29:48,860 --> 02:29:57,940
We are a bit in Milwaukee, so at the marketing, it's a great opportunity for 100 women.

2079
02:29:58,720 --> 02:29:59,960
They can receive this from these types.

2080
02:30:00,140 --> 02:30:07,460
In the next 17 weeks, a different story from a different one. There were many districts, there were

2081
02:30:07,460 --> 02:30:13,620
a few neighbors. They were being your grandchildren, daughters, they could be anyone and they were

2082
02:30:13,620 --> 02:30:19,540
more rocky. And this is sponsored by a 90 to $0.00 a grant from the Centers for Disease Control.

2083
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:27,240
We hope that we'll go viral. We hope the CDC will pick this up and it will be national. It is probably

2084
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:31,660
You wanted to bust things that I've seen in a long long time, you know, if you had anything you want to add.

2085
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:36,440
No, just to clarify, it did not take the entire $100,000 grant.

2086
02:30:36,520 --> 02:30:40,500
There were seven different initiatives funded through that CDC grant, and this was just one of the seven.

2087
02:30:53,400 --> 02:30:54,280
Thank you.

2088
02:30:54,280 --> 02:31:01,160
on the graph that you gave us is the reduction in the American, if you're mortality rate.

2089
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:07,640
And although in our appreciate your comments, although we've seen a reduction, it's not, you know, you didn't meet your benchmarks.

2090
02:31:08,340 --> 02:31:13,020
And I want to talk about two indicators that you have on the following pie chart that you have.

2091
02:31:13,020 --> 02:31:23,020
And then his lifestyle and how lifestyle and behavior patterns are playing a role in addition to

2092
02:31:23,020 --> 02:31:31,740
the issue that I was involved in, and that is second hand smoke for young people, for young people, for the infants.

2093
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:36,720
And what is the department really doing to promote the lifestyle changes?

2094
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:41,240
Because when I take a look at certain urban neighborhoods,

2095
02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:52,700
There are a lot of pleasing things where mothers and also children have an opportunity to get healthy things in order for them to extend their life.

2096
02:31:53,200 --> 02:32:03,900
So through the Department in which we issue full difference license and also we interact with those mothers as they're becoming pregnant.

2097
02:32:03,900 --> 02:32:09,620
And the good things that they should put in their body, and I can go into ethnic specific

2098
02:32:11,440 --> 02:32:19,320
myths that part of just normal diet, that could be contributing to this particular indicator

2099
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:25,860
where we're starting to see infants, not survived because of a lack of prenatal care, but

2100
02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:28,780
also a healthy lifestyle from the mother.

2101
02:32:29,620 --> 02:32:31,900
How are we targeting that aspect of it?

2102
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:41,000
It is perhaps one of the biggest issues that we could attack going upstream and that is those

2103
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:43,280
environmental issues and those lifestyle issues.

2104
02:32:43,780 --> 02:32:47,880
The fact that we are sitting in a smoke-free building and the fact that we can go into

2105
02:32:47,880 --> 02:32:53,340
restaurant in the city and sit in a smoke-free restaurant is a huge positive.

2106
02:32:53,560 --> 02:32:54,960
We'll pay dividends down the road.

2107
02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:57,360
We just don't know how great they are this year.

2108
02:32:57,360 --> 02:33:05,820
But the exposure to second-hand smoke even in a restaurant setting for a woman who is pregnant doesn't even know she's pregnant, it's hint.

2109
02:33:06,340 --> 02:33:16,640
If we could just keep women from smoking in their pregnancies, we would have a statistically significant reduction of prenatuity, which is the main cause of a different death in Milwaukee.

2110
02:33:17,280 --> 02:33:23,300
But this issue, the obesity, the issue of access to good food and lifestyle and exercise is so important.

2111
02:33:23,300 --> 02:33:28,020
as we changed the whole economic and long-term outcome of our city.

2112
02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:33,580
We may have just heard the report from the CDC today said that the trends while not

2113
02:33:33,580 --> 02:33:38,820
happening, as quickly as they got, but we've heard to percent of all the bills will be

2114
02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:47,260
obvious and the trajectory that we're going in the, by 20, 20, we've got to change that.

2115
02:33:47,380 --> 02:33:51,220
We've been walking while we're known for a lot of things, we cannot, should not be known

2116
02:33:51,220 --> 02:33:53,900
for our growth and unhealthy lifestyle.

2117
02:33:54,760 --> 02:33:57,560
We need to do more as a little economic development

2118
02:33:57,560 --> 02:33:59,740
to make certain you're not food deserts and turf

2119
02:33:59,740 --> 02:34:00,200
and unity.

2120
02:34:00,680 --> 02:34:02,300
We can't ask people to eat good food

2121
02:34:02,300 --> 02:34:03,840
when they don't have access to good food.

2122
02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:07,580
They're corner stores, they don't sell fresh food,

2123
02:34:07,580 --> 02:34:09,280
food, foods, or vegetables.

2124
02:34:09,880 --> 02:34:10,980
We're doing things about that.

2125
02:34:10,980 --> 02:34:12,240
We're working with growing power,

2126
02:34:12,420 --> 02:34:16,280
we're working with fine-tuned schools with the NPS.

2127
02:34:16,940 --> 02:34:19,740
We're working with the first study, Michelle Obama's,

2128
02:34:19,740 --> 02:34:26,820
less moved initiative in the designate very soon as a less moved city. There's some

2129
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:32,960
things that we're doing trying to engage local produce collaborative and

2130
02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:38,880
and improve markets. I think that the issue here is that I want to say

2131
02:34:38,880 --> 02:34:43,000
all of them is that this won't happen overnight, but the investment has to happen

2132
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:48,740
today. We've got invest in a healthier community. We've got to deal with

2133
02:34:48,740 --> 02:34:52,860
balance as a public health concern as well. We've got to make sure the people feel safe. We're

2134
02:34:52,860 --> 02:34:59,180
looking forward to walk, bike, one, and to be outside and we've got to be with that issue.

2135
02:35:01,930 --> 02:35:16,690
And then I think that when we look at the development of those building stores and establishments in our city, we need to say, what is the long term implications of that type of establishment going in that district and that store.

2136
02:35:17,090 --> 02:35:22,350
And what it's going to do to the people there. We need to go back a whole into back of distribution in our city.

2137
02:35:22,350 --> 02:35:26,510
And so I think that we're attacking that through

2138
02:35:26,510 --> 02:35:29,930
through collaboration to partnerships and to education.

2139
02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:33,930
We're still doing our strong baby campaign is just about that.

2140
02:35:33,930 --> 02:35:37,270
You need routes, your baby can be strong, get your baby,

2141
02:35:37,870 --> 02:35:40,190
the fruits, the exercise that it needs.

2142
02:35:40,610 --> 02:35:41,830
We're still going to make those women visits,

2143
02:35:42,590 --> 02:35:44,230
but secondhand smoke is huge.

2144
02:35:44,410 --> 02:35:46,270
If we could just keep money from smoking.

2145
02:35:47,170 --> 02:35:49,730
We want to ask that we want to emulate a possible,

2146
02:35:49,730 --> 02:35:54,790
What we see in cities like Philadelphia and something that I'm hoping that it could be a possible

2147
02:35:54,790 --> 02:36:02,730
over here in Philadelphia, they had a smoking cessation program for mothers who were pregnant.

2148
02:36:03,170 --> 02:36:11,870
And in that program, if you did not smoke during the pregnancy, you would see diapers for the life of the baby.

2149
02:36:12,490 --> 02:36:21,970
The program was so successful that it was targeted to work in an inner city of women in a full

2150
02:36:21,970 --> 02:36:27,570
doctor that they had to shut it down because they were wealthy, subliminant women were driving

2151
02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:33,190
into full of opia to enroll in the program so they could get their blood drawn and to see

2152
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:35,170
those nicotine in it so they could get access.

2153
02:36:35,830 --> 02:36:41,190
So we know if there's an incentive there to stop women or to educate women about smoking

2154
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:46,370
to do it, because people are a ho, if you're not working, and you've got to pay for

2155
02:36:46,370 --> 02:36:49,070
baby rights and campers and leggings or whatever.

2156
02:36:49,710 --> 02:36:53,790
And if you just didn't smoke, we would give those to you for a year, they had 7% of the

2157
02:36:53,790 --> 02:36:55,170
participants stop smoking.

2158
02:36:56,130 --> 02:37:00,650
Now, we haven't figured out how to emulate that here, but we're looking at it for a buff

2159
02:37:00,650 --> 02:37:07,070
year, because we can't just say, don't do it, you've got to get people losing to do something

2160
02:37:07,070 --> 02:37:07,430
else.

2161
02:37:07,430 --> 02:37:13,670
And in that case, it was not smoking gave me my baby peppers for the year, and why this

2162
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:14,470
did that.

2163
02:37:14,530 --> 02:37:19,050
And for that, if you may, and as a result, see the opportunity, if Macau were to wait

2164
02:37:19,050 --> 02:37:23,350
to go down for some of those urban poor women who participated in the program.

2165
02:37:24,410 --> 02:37:30,350
Mr. Chairman, just on the strong baby care pain, I had asked the health department to provide

2166
02:37:30,350 --> 02:37:36,290
me with the animated version of the healthy baby care pain, and I was fortunate enough

2167
02:37:36,290 --> 02:37:41,170
to do a presentation of Milwaukee with a winch aid foundation out in Henry College in Georgia.

2168
02:37:42,290 --> 02:37:49,210
Winch aid foundation is the philanthropic arm of Chick-fil-Aid, and discussing trying to get a Chick-fil-Aid

2169
02:37:49,210 --> 02:37:54,630
although they're in a commercial recenaire, trying to get them to locate a metafagmist

2170
02:37:54,630 --> 02:38:00,210
chairman in a district in which you represent on South 27th street and on a north side, but

2171
02:38:00,210 --> 02:38:07,210
One of the most positive aspects we've got that I got from that presentation was they were very

2172
02:38:07,210 --> 02:38:12,370
impressed about what we're doing here in Milwaukee with the strong babies campaign.

2173
02:38:12,930 --> 02:38:19,330
I mean, not only is it fun, but as you dig deeper down inside of it, a lot of those who

2174
02:38:19,330 --> 02:38:25,070
are throughout the country understand the importance of just exactly what your marketing team

2175
02:38:25,070 --> 02:38:25,630
put together.

2176
02:38:25,630 --> 02:38:30,050
So I wanted to give the help to pop me, Kudos and I can't pay and you may not know it.

2177
02:38:30,870 --> 02:38:37,350
But those of us who use your material and promote the city of Milwaukee, it really gives

2178
02:38:37,350 --> 02:38:40,270
a snapshot of the things that we're doing well.

2179
02:38:40,590 --> 02:38:43,050
So Kudos to the help to pop and thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2180
02:38:43,690 --> 02:38:49,810
If you have a question about questions or comments, back in the other numbers, there's a website

2181
02:38:49,810 --> 02:38:56,230
I assume that I've parted the health department website where people can find out about problems in this area.

2182
02:38:56,590 --> 02:38:58,090
Yes, about income or tot, absolutely.

2183
02:38:59,810 --> 02:39:07,390
And do you staff is available to speak at neighborhood meetings to give people a view of what these problems are?

2184
02:39:08,750 --> 02:39:08,970
Yes.

2185
02:39:08,970 --> 02:39:09,630
Yes, absolutely.

2186
02:39:10,590 --> 02:39:15,890
And we encourage that because this is the community dialogue that's really going to help save these babies.

2187
02:39:15,890 --> 02:39:21,810
because we can't be able, but our message should be everywhere.

2188
02:39:24,540 --> 02:39:28,840
Thank you. I appreciate the presentation. It's good to hear that we're heading

2189
02:39:28,840 --> 02:39:33,040
in a right direction. There is a lot of work to do. I can't go further work done

2190
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:41,440
to date and with that, all of the endeavors would move to all this communication

2191
02:39:41,440 --> 02:39:43,240
file at the call of the chair.

2192
02:39:44,300 --> 02:39:46,180
Thank you for the further reporting back.

2193
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:54,330
Next file is item number nine.

2194
02:39:55,090 --> 02:39:57,650
File number one one one five four six

2195
02:39:57,650 --> 02:39:59,310
Communication from the police department.

2196
02:40:00,590 --> 02:40:07,590
To the annual report on a collection of racial information at police traffic staffs.

2197
02:40:08,230 --> 02:40:11,170
And I know there are all in the hallway and we'll take a second to go here

2198
02:40:28,450 --> 02:40:29,190
for an interview.

2199
02:40:42,430 --> 02:40:47,730
I'm joined by Inspector Edith Hudson, who is the deputy commander of the Labour head patrol bureau,

2200
02:40:47,930 --> 02:40:54,450
which encompasses all of our uniform units, deploy in the community to implement our strategy.

2201
02:40:54,450 --> 02:41:00,630
and the James Hope of the Commander of the General's Trobureaux is here now.

2202
02:41:01,750 --> 02:41:03,850
So, please to be here and make this presentation.

2203
02:41:06,370 --> 02:41:06,670
Everybody else.

2204
02:41:07,450 --> 02:41:09,370
Good evening.

2205
02:41:09,370 --> 02:41:09,450
Good evening.

2206
02:41:09,970 --> 02:41:10,370
Okay.

2207
02:41:11,150 --> 02:41:13,610
As you will recall, I believe it was last fall.

2208
02:41:13,710 --> 02:41:18,360
We made a similar presentation to you, based on approximately six months of data.

2209
02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:21,550
We made the same presentation to the Fire and Police Commission,

2210
02:41:21,790 --> 02:41:24,890
and we made a similar presentation to the community at large,

2211
02:41:24,890 --> 02:41:33,370
explaining our data. I'd like to briefly go through a history lesson for some context for what's going on here.

2212
02:41:33,950 --> 02:41:39,710
I've personally been involved in this issue for more than 10 years. As a matter of fact, one reason I was

2213
02:41:39,710 --> 02:41:45,630
getting to the Pentagon on September 11 was that I've been in attending a meeting with the New Jersey State Police

2214
02:41:45,630 --> 02:41:50,330
and a number of other law enforcement issues agencies talking about this very important issue.

2215
02:41:50,330 --> 02:41:55,610
And what we needed to do to retain public confidence is we attempted to develop tactics that

2216
02:41:55,610 --> 02:41:59,390
wouldn't be useful in surprising crime and protecting people.

2217
02:41:59,710 --> 02:42:06,250
As a matter of fact, not long after that, with the International City Madagers Association

2218
02:42:06,250 --> 02:42:12,770
published its textbook local government police administration, they had a section on this

2219
02:42:12,770 --> 02:42:19,210
issue and in it published verbatim, the Arlington County Mission Statement regarding racial

2220
02:42:19,210 --> 02:42:26,850
We had developed ourselves, it became a national model, was later adopted by the Chicago Police Department, but the point was once again.

2221
02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:31,790
It's tried to place and context police tactics against a backdrop of community need.

2222
02:42:32,610 --> 02:42:33,690
It's important to know what a lot.

2223
02:42:34,430 --> 02:42:37,550
When this issue first arose, it arose on the nation's highways.

2224
02:42:38,130 --> 02:42:49,190
This part of something called Operation Pipeline, where state patrols were using profiles of potential drug dealers that have been developed by the Justice Department.

2225
02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:56,010
they were stopping cars based on their appearance and based on who was driving and they were trying to recover drugs from those vehicles.

2226
02:42:57,270 --> 02:43:01,890
That ultimately resulted in some subsequent studies that indicated those profiles were effective

2227
02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:10,410
and the notion of hit rates was used to determine whether or not in fact this use of racial and ethnic information

2228
02:43:10,410 --> 02:43:17,510
as part of the reason to stop a car was justified by the data and later studies would prove that it was not.

2229
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:22,190
Now, while this was all going on, urban police departments across the country were embracing

2230
02:43:22,190 --> 02:43:27,230
norms of community-based policing, which required us to listen to neighborhoods, ascertain

2231
02:43:27,230 --> 02:43:29,330
their needs and respond effectively.

2232
02:43:30,030 --> 02:43:35,990
This revolution in police strategies based on community engagement was also accompanied by

2233
02:43:35,990 --> 02:43:41,110
an accountability revolution known as Combstat, and that was a program in which police

2234
02:43:41,110 --> 02:43:48,050
used data as rapidly as developed as possible to guide their deployments, specifically for

2235
02:43:48,050 --> 02:43:53,350
the purposes of intervening rapidly, identifying crime trends and reducing those crime

2236
02:43:53,350 --> 02:43:55,150
trends before they became significant.

2237
02:43:56,150 --> 02:44:01,450
Now, I think as we move forward, we saw an interesting mix and natural issues.

2238
02:44:01,930 --> 02:44:06,690
There was the issue of racial profiling on nation's highways and which had been proved that

2239
02:44:06,690 --> 02:44:15,830
official, descriptors were being used to justify a car stop, and then many issues that were

2240
02:44:15,830 --> 02:44:20,370
occurring in early police departments in which we were responding to the data and quite

2241
02:44:20,370 --> 02:44:23,890
frankly, community demands to do something about their neighborhoods.

2242
02:44:24,490 --> 02:44:29,490
It's quite frankly, in places like Milwaukee, I'm a Chicago or New York City, victimization

2243
02:44:29,490 --> 02:44:34,790
rates and minority communities are reprehensible and the most shameful disparity of all

2244
02:44:34,790 --> 02:44:38,930
of the large numbers of people. It's specific neighborhoods that are victimized by high rates of

2245
02:44:38,930 --> 02:44:46,010
violent crime. So, having said that, what we've done here in Milwaukee is work very carefully

2246
02:44:46,010 --> 02:44:51,350
to develop a strategy based on research. Research has consistently shown that when general

2247
02:44:51,350 --> 02:44:57,270
patrol units aggressively enforce traffic laws that have a direct impact on street crime, simply

2248
02:44:57,270 --> 02:44:59,970
enforcement of traffic laws. Now, what we do.

2249
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,040
Done here in Milwaukee is recognized the fact that we want to use car stops based on violations of traffic

2250
02:45:07,040 --> 02:45:12,720
laws for the purpose of reducing crime. The purpose of seizing drugs, and not even for the purposes

2251
02:45:12,720 --> 02:45:18,720
of generating citations. We specifically directed our officers in the document that announced

2252
02:45:18,720 --> 02:45:23,780
this program that they were to give warnings to motorists whenever they could, and we will

2253
02:45:23,780 --> 02:45:30,620
able to show you a day will soon that will indicate that over 70% of the time, motorists stop

2254
02:45:30,620 --> 02:45:32,980
by us for traffic violations or giving warnings.

2255
02:45:33,240 --> 02:45:38,020
We recognize where the stops are, we're not trying to impose a poor people with acts on

2256
02:45:38,020 --> 02:45:42,960
people who live in a poor neighborhood that has lots of crime, but we are necessarily being active,

2257
02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:47,800
visible, available, and assertive in neighborhoods that are most afflicted by crimes

2258
02:45:47,800 --> 02:45:51,820
of violence, and that can be measured by victimization rates that will also share.

2259
02:45:51,820 --> 02:45:58,540
We will also demonstrate to you that a time during which car stop and subject stop activity

2260
02:45:58,540 --> 02:46:04,100
has increased more than fivefold in real numbers, our citizen complaints continue to decline.

2261
02:46:04,860 --> 02:46:09,000
And I think that's a demonstration of the fact that there is community support for our activity.

2262
02:46:09,380 --> 02:46:14,820
As long as we explain what we're doing, as long as we're respectful, and as long as we use our discretion intelligently

2263
02:46:15,340 --> 02:46:19,640
to not just blindly write hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of citations.

2264
02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:23,940
But recognize that the purpose of this intervention is crime reduction that we're having

2265
02:46:23,940 --> 02:46:24,480
in enhancement.

2266
02:46:25,300 --> 02:46:29,660
So, I'd like to say that, I'd like to say we don't be here anymore.

2267
02:46:30,020 --> 02:46:30,380
All right.

2268
02:46:30,700 --> 02:46:31,080
Oh, by the way.

2269
02:46:31,380 --> 02:46:37,540
Oh, can you understand that you may, which I think is highly relevant to this question, is the

2270
02:46:37,540 --> 02:46:41,080
relationship between traffic stops and crime prevention.

2271
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:46,620
Could you envision that a little bit, be the theoretical and empirical argument that

2272
02:46:46,620 --> 02:46:50,460
traffic stops, do we relate to crime and disorder in the United States?

2273
02:46:50,540 --> 02:46:51,420
Yeah, all to that.

2274
02:46:51,620 --> 02:46:51,800
Sure.

2275
02:46:52,280 --> 02:46:52,660
It's all around.

2276
02:46:53,200 --> 02:46:57,420
I'm going to ask you to hold that question, because I believe you do answer in your slides.

2277
02:46:58,320 --> 02:46:58,940
If you want to.

2278
02:46:59,100 --> 02:46:59,900
I'm talking about it here.

2279
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:00,860
You have a goal.

2280
02:47:01,060 --> 02:47:01,120
Yeah.

2281
02:47:01,220 --> 02:47:04,840
This is based on a theory that actually there's some research done in the,

2282
02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:06,660
I can't recall exactly, late 70s or early 80s.

2283
02:47:07,420 --> 02:47:09,080
James Q. Wilson recently passed away.

2284
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:10,140
He was one of the co-authors.

2285
02:47:10,280 --> 02:47:11,420
Bob Bowling was an author.

2286
02:47:12,640 --> 02:47:13,600
And yeah, let's face it.

2287
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:18,540
And we do social science research on active phenomena like this, sometimes you're going with

2288
02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:22,220
correlations, you can't prove the causation, or you can replicate it as the correlation

2289
02:47:22,220 --> 02:47:24,860
over and over again, and they did a number of studies.

2290
02:47:25,460 --> 02:47:29,620
And they recognize that many cities, special units, due traffic enforcement, and everybody

2291
02:47:29,620 --> 02:47:31,260
else is running around chasing hitches.

2292
02:47:31,800 --> 02:47:35,820
So what they controlled for always departments that said, oh, everybody is going to get

2293
02:47:35,820 --> 02:47:36,280
in this game.

2294
02:47:36,380 --> 02:47:40,500
Everybody's going to stop people for traffic violations, whatever they are, and God knows

2295
02:47:40,500 --> 02:47:41,460
there are plenty of them.

2296
02:47:41,460 --> 02:47:46,520
The challenge was to find out that that act alone, the mere act that is erupting the

2297
02:47:46,520 --> 02:47:46,860
environment.

2298
02:47:47,300 --> 02:47:50,540
We have an impact on things like robbery and car theft because those are two

2299
02:47:50,540 --> 02:47:53,420
crimes specifically to use the street intensively.

2300
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:56,320
Then they found that every city were located to study the same thing happened.

2301
02:47:56,600 --> 02:48:01,220
When the rest of patrol got busy stopping people for tail lights and rolling through

2302
02:48:01,220 --> 02:48:06,480
stop signs and loud mufflers and whatever, didn't even matter if they were the citations,

2303
02:48:06,640 --> 02:48:10,960
it mattered that they intervened and what they theorized was, since large numbers of

2304
02:48:10,960 --> 02:48:16,260
Now, we're getting out of their cars and being active in public spaces rather than driving around

2305
02:48:16,260 --> 02:48:20,780
that people noticed, including the subset of the community who wanted to commit crimes,

2306
02:48:21,260 --> 02:48:22,420
and adjusted their behaviors.

2307
02:48:23,260 --> 02:48:26,080
And if the police did that intentionally enough, and the highest crime neighborhoods,

2308
02:48:26,740 --> 02:48:28,420
that would have a statistical effect.

2309
02:48:29,260 --> 02:48:31,320
All they could do is replicate a correlation.

2310
02:48:31,900 --> 02:48:36,760
Now, that was done at a time before we had the computer generated data capabilities we have now.

2311
02:48:36,760 --> 02:48:45,680
So my sense was coming here if we married our ability to analyze data in terms of where and when activity was occurring and then coupled that with targeted enforcement

2312
02:48:45,680 --> 02:48:55,800
But the piece that I wanted to throw in is tell the cops not to write tickets unless there are license on register or really really bad because the goal here is

2313
02:48:55,800 --> 02:49:01,760
A lot of pretext stop using traffic violation an intervention with a member of a community that's got a high crime rate

2314
02:49:02,160 --> 02:49:04,220
And if it's nothing too, it's just, hi, how are you?

2315
02:49:04,220 --> 02:49:05,880
Have a nice day, get you to our life, flexed.

2316
02:49:05,940 --> 02:49:07,160
And you know, it turns a negative encounter

2317
02:49:07,160 --> 02:49:08,300
in your positive one.

2318
02:49:08,740 --> 02:49:10,640
And people in neighborhoods in our pirates of crime,

2319
02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,000
know where they live, and they want us to do something.

2320
02:49:13,740 --> 02:49:15,560
And so, you know, to doing this something,

2321
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:17,440
frequently leads to something else.

2322
02:49:17,480 --> 02:49:18,460
It leads to a kind of rest.

2323
02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:19,740
It leads to a war in the rest.

2324
02:49:20,100 --> 02:49:23,460
But it also disrupts the environment of the impunity,

2325
02:49:23,620 --> 02:49:25,440
with some of our crime groups are trying to operate.

2326
02:49:25,960 --> 02:49:28,040
Whether they see red lights, what's going on,

2327
02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:30,340
either move over here, or when they move over here,

2328
02:49:30,340 --> 02:49:35,680
or for breast fewer targets, so that's the goal and that's the rationale we go to on.

2329
02:49:35,780 --> 02:49:36,860
Mr. Chair?

2330
02:49:39,710 --> 02:49:47,250
Before we go to the slide, I do think it's important to just mention that, you know, in part,

2331
02:49:47,390 --> 02:49:52,930
this communication files stems from the fact that last year, the set of Wisconsin, we peer

2332
02:49:52,930 --> 02:49:58,510
of the requirement for the keeping track of the traffic on data and through a resolution

2333
02:49:58,510 --> 02:49:59,990
It's possible by myself, out of me.

2334
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:06,600
Wait an Ottoman Corvette, and the dedication and commitment of Chief Plain ahead staff to keep this information in data anyway.

2335
02:50:07,780 --> 02:50:16,140
We saw that Milwaukee being the largest and most diverse city in the state of Wisconsin, but even though the state may no longer require it,

2336
02:50:16,220 --> 02:50:29,740
that it was important for us as a city to keep track and to have it reported back to the public and to us so that we can ensure that racial profiling isn't happening in the city of Milwaukee.

2337
02:50:29,740 --> 02:50:35,960
But again, that's in the face of the state repealing it and with Chief and his staff's

2338
02:50:35,960 --> 02:50:38,060
willingness to keep the information anyway.

2339
02:50:38,860 --> 02:50:39,700
Thank you.

2340
02:50:39,700 --> 02:50:40,680
Thank you for the background.

2341
02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:41,260
Appreciate it.

2342
02:50:41,460 --> 02:50:42,960
Thank you for that clarification.

2343
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:43,880
It is important.

2344
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:46,280
You know, we're doing this because we believe we should be transparent.

2345
02:50:46,540 --> 02:50:49,760
We believe that that very same community that's a click about how it's a crime.

2346
02:50:49,940 --> 02:50:52,080
Should know what we're doing in the impact it's having.

2347
02:50:52,880 --> 02:50:54,280
So nobody's going to play out the ball here.

2348
02:50:54,380 --> 02:50:56,240
We're going to share with you what we have.

2349
02:50:56,240 --> 02:50:58,220
Oh, we're good. Thank you.

2350
02:50:58,560 --> 02:51:02,260
Chief, I just want to follow up on one of your comments that it related to,

2351
02:51:02,260 --> 02:51:05,980
a little of the comment, or you indicated that you track warnings in the department

2352
02:51:05,980 --> 02:51:11,140
and that about 70 percent of the time, where potentially any citation could be

2353
02:51:11,140 --> 02:51:13,740
issues that there are warnings that are provided.

2354
02:51:16,260 --> 02:51:20,220
The officers that may pull over an individual who has had a previous warning

2355
02:51:20,220 --> 02:51:23,500
for similar such potential violations for example, speeding.

2356
02:51:23,500 --> 02:51:29,360
They usually have access to that information there where they could determine that potentially

2357
02:51:29,360 --> 02:51:34,580
if they pulled me over, but I got wanting two weeks ago for what otherwise would have been

2358
02:51:34,580 --> 02:51:39,900
a speeding ticket and now in the second subsequent offense we may not be so kind and may

2359
02:51:39,900 --> 02:51:42,860
assure me the citation doesn't really exist access to.

2360
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:46,700
No, we don't have a central data point for people who got, you know, verbal warnings or what

2361
02:51:46,700 --> 02:51:47,100
not.

2362
02:51:47,360 --> 02:51:50,600
I mean, if an officer encounters somebody that he told to get some of you fixed a month ago and

2363
02:51:50,600 --> 02:51:53,800
still not fixed, they may operate out of our own knowledge.

2364
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:57,280
But again, the goal of this thing isn't primarily the traffic

2365
02:51:57,280 --> 02:51:58,600
enforcement itself.

2366
02:52:00,320 --> 02:52:02,560
I mean, you know, if we were on highway patrol unit,

2367
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:04,640
we would probably have a separate database, so we know if we

2368
02:52:04,640 --> 02:52:07,420
need to have somebody for speeding again twice in a week.

2369
02:52:07,700 --> 02:52:12,140
Again, our main goal here is to affect the behavior of folks

2370
02:52:12,140 --> 02:52:13,140
who want to commit crimes.

2371
02:52:13,700 --> 02:52:15,920
And we rely on intelligence and discretion.

2372
02:52:16,740 --> 02:52:18,660
And so, as I say, since the same officers

2373
02:52:18,660 --> 02:52:23,180
of the same neighborhoods, you know, they stumble over the same person three or four times

2374
02:52:23,180 --> 02:52:25,900
to the same offense and they'll actually get a citation.

2375
02:52:26,820 --> 02:52:28,320
Thank you.

2376
02:52:28,340 --> 02:52:28,500
Okay.

2377
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:28,980
Thank you, Chief.

2378
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:29,840
If you're on the presentation.

2379
02:52:32,180 --> 02:52:36,500
I think I'm going to have copies of this, so we'll try to move smartly, but one of flip-on,

2380
02:52:36,640 --> 02:52:37,040
let's go.

2381
02:52:37,720 --> 02:52:44,060
The first slide is the uniform crime statistics for last several years and, you know, our goal

2382
02:52:44,060 --> 02:52:45,440
is to demonstrate progress.

2383
02:52:45,440 --> 02:52:53,940
And I think the progress being aggregate numbers from 07 through all 11 is statistically significant.

2384
02:52:54,620 --> 02:52:59,540
Obviously the progress from 10 to 11 is less than it was the progress from 9 to 11,

2385
02:53:00,340 --> 02:53:04,820
but we do see some significant improvements in decreases in violent crime

2386
02:53:04,820 --> 02:53:08,340
and decreases in property crime of over 20% in both cases.

2387
02:53:08,420 --> 02:53:10,060
That's a pretty significant number.

2388
02:53:10,060 --> 02:53:14,480
And when we look at numbers, we always try to look at two key numbers to guide us, and that's

2389
02:53:14,480 --> 02:53:20,100
homicide and caught that, because people don't hide bodies, and people who's crazy

2390
02:53:20,100 --> 02:53:24,220
have been stolen, have insurance policies for theft, those two numbers tend to be your

2391
02:53:24,220 --> 02:53:24,800
most reliable.

2392
02:53:25,300 --> 02:53:27,160
And those numbers are moving in their way direction.

2393
02:53:27,620 --> 02:53:30,360
You're pretty comfortable with your other numbers as well.

2394
02:53:30,920 --> 02:53:31,360
Next slide.

2395
02:53:34,370 --> 02:53:38,870
We also wanted to provide you with the breakdown of what percentage of the city's crime

2396
02:53:38,870 --> 02:53:40,630
takes place in each of our seven districts.

2397
02:53:41,390 --> 02:53:45,730
And you'll see that in districts three, five, and seven,

2398
02:53:46,050 --> 02:53:48,170
just three of our districts, two thirds of our crime

2399
02:53:48,170 --> 02:53:48,790
takes place.

2400
02:53:49,970 --> 02:53:52,790
So the disparity in crime victimization

2401
02:53:52,790 --> 02:53:56,930
is significant, most obviously in those three districts.

2402
02:54:01,870 --> 02:54:03,990
We also just, this is a new slide.

2403
02:54:04,130 --> 02:54:06,890
We didn't have this slide when we reported back in the form,

2404
02:54:06,890 --> 02:54:10,210
But this is a crime and they can buildings.

2405
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:16,310
You will recollect that several weeks ago, I asked that we try to identify some of the

2406
02:54:16,310 --> 02:54:21,550
state foreclosure settlement money directly for the purposes of making buildings.

2407
02:54:22,430 --> 02:54:24,090
There are a couple of reasons for this.

2408
02:54:24,450 --> 02:54:28,750
First of all, a consistently vacant building is a real, not just an isor, but it's a drag

2409
02:54:28,750 --> 02:54:31,630
on the neighbor that's recovery crimes take place in there.

2410
02:54:32,050 --> 02:54:35,970
They can buildings are a driver of our boundary rate right now, because people are breaking

2411
02:54:35,970 --> 02:54:39,810
that it's stealing metal and selling it to scrapers.

2412
02:54:40,250 --> 02:54:43,970
The other issue, of course, is other crimes can occur as well, so as you can see.

2413
02:54:44,910 --> 02:54:50,010
We have several ellipses that are going to appear on every single map,

2414
02:54:50,490 --> 02:54:53,390
and what we try to do is show you where the crime is most heavily concentrated.

2415
02:54:54,350 --> 02:54:57,450
And what you're going to see right there is our vacant building circle

2416
02:54:57,970 --> 02:54:59,970
is right inside our other circle.

2417
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:08,240
As well. And we have about 500 burglaries, 100 fires, 24 robberies, 14 aggravated assaults in vacant buildings in 2011.

2418
02:55:08,920 --> 02:55:16,460
So again, if I'm money for tear downs, it could be a real significant investment in crime control, believe it or not, as well as community safety and confidence.

2419
02:55:17,060 --> 02:55:24,540
So, since you have a couple of slides back, there was a figure for us, and which went up slightly bigger into the last slide.

2420
02:55:25,020 --> 02:55:28,600
Yeah, we try to, you know, that's a low-based number.

2421
02:55:29,260 --> 02:55:33,080
And sometimes it goes up and goes down, because we're getting better at identifying our students.

2422
02:55:33,240 --> 02:55:34,490
We work collaboratively with a fire department.

2423
02:55:35,180 --> 02:55:37,920
Fire department does a good job at identifying cause and origin.

2424
02:55:38,680 --> 02:55:44,100
And it's not always obvious. There's a lot of undetermined for example, but there's always some fluctuation,

2425
02:55:44,100 --> 02:55:50,800
but we don't have a pattern that indicates that something specific is going on.

2426
02:55:53,240 --> 02:55:54,500
Okay, next slide.

2427
02:55:55,820 --> 02:56:01,560
Again, we want to make sure that everybody understands what we're trying to do and why we're trying

2428
02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:02,340
to do it there.

2429
02:56:03,140 --> 02:56:07,740
So what you have in those several ellipses is our total population, our population below

2430
02:56:07,740 --> 02:56:13,740
the poverty line, our minority populations, and the ellipses is caused for service, violent

2431
02:56:13,740 --> 02:56:16,480
trying traffic stops and subject stops.

2432
02:56:17,360 --> 02:56:21,380
So everyone has a website that identifies, you know,

2433
02:56:21,480 --> 02:56:25,320
where police are being clued by the citizens the most.

2434
02:56:26,020 --> 02:56:28,880
There's another website that identifies where our violent crime

2435
02:56:28,880 --> 02:56:29,740
is concentrated.

2436
02:56:30,580 --> 02:56:33,240
The red one is where our traffic stops are concentrated.

2437
02:56:33,680 --> 02:56:37,200
And the blue one is where our subject stops are concentrated.

2438
02:56:37,620 --> 02:56:39,000
And what we're trying to demonstrate

2439
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:41,960
is that we're very, very specifically focusing

2440
02:56:41,960 --> 02:56:48,500
resources on need, and we identify community demands as close for service, and we identify

2441
02:56:48,500 --> 02:56:53,380
our crime data as helping us describe the nature of the problem in our application of

2442
02:56:53,380 --> 02:56:58,940
a police intervention, which is subject and cost-offs, should track with close for service

2443
02:56:58,940 --> 02:57:02,520
and identify violent crime, and that's what this map represents.

2444
02:57:03,780 --> 02:57:05,300
Next slide.

2445
02:57:07,040 --> 02:57:15,500
We also want to demonstrate to you the amount of change in our proactive activity in the community

2446
02:57:15,500 --> 02:57:21,920
and track at the same time complaints from citizens about our use of our authority and force.

2447
02:57:22,320 --> 02:57:30,760
As you can see in 2007 there were 543 external complaints and approximately 53,000 vehicle stops.

2448
02:57:30,760 --> 02:57:39,780
In 2010, there were 192,000 car stops, but 379 external complaints and in 2011,

2449
02:57:40,820 --> 02:57:45,200
were 189,000 car stops, and 300 external citizen complaints.

2450
02:57:46,280 --> 02:57:52,280
We are extrapolating from those numbers and in throwing that people by and large understand

2451
02:57:52,280 --> 02:57:57,060
what we're about and that these interventions are being perceived by the community generally

2452
02:57:57,060 --> 02:57:58,040
in a positive way.

2453
02:57:59,180 --> 02:58:08,660
Next slide, we break down the stops by a laser driver in each of our districts, and that number is self-explanatory.

2454
02:58:11,250 --> 02:58:18,070
And as you can see, districts three, four, five, and seven have the highest number of African Americans stopped district two.

2455
02:58:18,230 --> 02:58:26,810
That's the highest number of Hispanic stopped district one as the highest number of white people stopped. So it's a district six. Next slide.

2456
02:58:26,810 --> 02:58:27,890
We

2457
02:58:30,100 --> 02:58:35,000
developed this data point, and we're one of the first police departments I know to do this.

2458
02:58:35,360 --> 02:58:42,660
The racial data for car stops gets analyzed as they'll each individual car stop was a different person being stopped.

2459
02:58:43,420 --> 02:58:51,700
But we've been working on is providing our officers, means, faces, descriptions of known gang members, known violators, known offenders.

2460
02:58:51,700 --> 02:59:04,040
And since our officers are assigned to the same neighborhoods all the time, they are trying to focus their attention on those people who are known to be public offenders, and bad guys break traffic laws, you know, just break felony laws.

2461
02:59:05,160 --> 02:59:17,440
We find, often we would hear community people complaining back in the day, you know, we know who the drug dealers and robbers are, how come you guys don't, how come you're stopping me or actually stopping the known robbers? Well, we're trying to get better at that.

2462
02:59:17,440 --> 02:59:22,860
And so what we've done is we've gone back and looked at who has gotten stopped the most.

2463
02:59:23,460 --> 02:59:30,260
And what we found is there's 110 people who've been stopped a large number of times.

2464
02:59:30,300 --> 02:59:31,820
I mean, you don't have here.

2465
02:59:31,940 --> 02:59:32,380
It's on board.

2466
02:59:33,020 --> 02:59:34,460
It's on board.

2467
02:59:34,640 --> 02:59:35,020
Okay.

2468
02:59:35,220 --> 02:59:41,440
We've a 110 people who are managed to generate 27 100 traffic violations in the 1,000 separate traffic stops.

2469
02:59:41,940 --> 02:59:44,700
Now that's not a 1,000 different people they got stopped.

2470
02:59:44,700 --> 02:59:50,160
It's 100 people that got stopped about 10 times a year, because we're paying attention to them.

2471
02:59:50,380 --> 02:59:55,820
We know who they are, we know who they are, and we know who they are, and we know who they see us,

2472
02:59:56,020 --> 02:59:58,180
that we know who these guys are, and we're stopping them.

2473
02:59:58,640 --> 02:59:59,960
And so we've had a number of situations.

2474
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,160
Questions in which data can theoretically be skewed, but I believe skewed appropriately by

2475
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:11,520
Oslo using criminal intelligence in local street knowledge to identify the appropriate people to stop.

2476
03:00:11,980 --> 03:00:17,460
And once again, you can see if we had the prolific offender ellipse inside the other ellipses,

2477
03:00:17,460 --> 03:00:23,520
again, it tracks very highly, very closely, with our crime and victimization data.

2478
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:27,320
Mr. John, I don't understand very quickly, I mean,

2479
03:00:27,920 --> 03:00:31,440
can you break this down by our medical districts with a mapping system?

2480
03:00:31,920 --> 03:00:34,800
I'm interested in the district, which I represent.

2481
03:00:35,340 --> 03:00:35,360
Sure.

2482
03:00:35,620 --> 03:00:37,800
Well, if you can just send that tomorrow for some time.

2483
03:00:38,820 --> 03:00:41,980
I mean, you district encompasses most of one police district,

2484
03:00:42,060 --> 03:00:43,800
but I know I believe in what a lot is, right?

2485
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:45,640
I've got two four and seven.

2486
03:00:45,680 --> 03:00:45,940
All right,

2487
03:00:49,040 --> 03:00:49,140
all right.

2488
03:00:49,140 --> 03:00:50,100
All right, next time.

2489
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:53,800
These are the traffic stop dispositions by district.

2490
03:00:54,780 --> 03:00:57,980
You can see if you want to get stopped at the district floor.

2491
03:01:02,860 --> 03:01:04,980
So the message is clearly gotten through here.

2492
03:01:05,360 --> 03:01:09,000
Neighborhood task force, which has got a lot of motor officers who's job

2493
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:13,040
but was to do heavy duty traffic enforcement, still do a bit more than

2494
03:01:13,040 --> 03:01:13,820
everybody else does.

2495
03:01:13,940 --> 03:01:17,420
But still, two thirds of their stops result in the people being ruined.

2496
03:01:17,960 --> 03:01:22,560
Overall, see why it's 70% running, 30% citations,

2497
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:26,180
with some variation from district to district.

2498
03:01:27,520 --> 03:01:28,040
Next.

2499
03:01:29,140 --> 03:01:29,840
Last chair.

2500
03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:31,400
On the bottom.

2501
03:01:32,220 --> 03:01:39,920
What review has done by anybody to verify the probable cause determination in the first instance

2502
03:01:39,920 --> 03:01:41,240
to the stop of the act?

2503
03:01:41,460 --> 03:01:46,920
Because probably that does part of the argument that out here is that these are, well,

2504
03:01:47,080 --> 03:01:48,420
you can kind of use the word pretext.

2505
03:01:48,760 --> 03:01:51,180
There's no law for pretext on our law.

2506
03:01:51,320 --> 03:01:52,260
There's no law for pretext.

2507
03:01:52,260 --> 03:01:53,600
There's no law for pretext.

2508
03:01:53,620 --> 03:01:54,580
That is the pretext.

2509
03:01:55,520 --> 03:01:58,180
And the fact that there is, you know, in District 4,

2510
03:01:58,340 --> 03:02:01,940
any one could make the argument that the fact that there's 83%

2511
03:02:01,940 --> 03:02:05,800
running, I sure also classated, the black is not just

2512
03:02:05,800 --> 03:02:08,420
citations as also arrests, sorry, in a little bit.

2513
03:02:08,640 --> 03:02:10,680
But, you know, after the vast majority of staff resulted

2514
03:02:10,680 --> 03:02:14,600
in a warning, might suggest to some that maybe the original

2515
03:02:15,100 --> 03:02:17,080
probable cause might be a little weak,

2516
03:02:17,280 --> 03:02:19,080
and so there was no point issuing a citation.

2517
03:02:19,360 --> 03:02:21,080
I mean, the one could make that argument, I'm not saying

2518
03:02:21,080 --> 03:02:23,440
as accurate as any actual basis to support.

2519
03:02:23,440 --> 03:02:25,460
But that amount of disparity,

2520
03:02:27,480 --> 03:02:31,660
how would you, well, as I said, when we issued a general order

2521
03:02:31,660 --> 03:02:37,920
that established this aspect of our strategy, we specifically articulated a notion that we

2522
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:41,620
weren't trying to raise revenue or generate citation data.

2523
03:02:41,740 --> 03:02:42,600
And it took a while.

2524
03:02:43,040 --> 03:02:46,140
Initially, we had some folks who had their stop at a guy in the right and 15 tickets.

2525
03:02:46,960 --> 03:02:50,360
And we've now got assisted in place that if you give one person more than five tickets

2526
03:02:50,360 --> 03:02:53,160
and a stop, we need to know what's going on here.

2527
03:02:53,320 --> 03:02:55,060
Because we're not looking at the pile on people.

2528
03:02:55,240 --> 03:02:57,080
I mean, if I give a motor or a tent ticket, it's okay,

2529
03:02:57,460 --> 03:02:58,920
we're fine, we know we're going to get into the tickets

2530
03:02:58,920 --> 03:03:00,040
no matter what happens with the homicide.

2531
03:03:01,500 --> 03:03:04,240
But the average person, if they've committed a violation,

2532
03:03:04,620 --> 03:03:07,120
don't pile on, guys, and gals just giving them a violation.

2533
03:03:07,380 --> 03:03:10,240
We're not trying to lose community support at the same time

2534
03:03:10,240 --> 03:03:12,280
we're trying to reduce crime in those neighborhoods.

2535
03:03:12,760 --> 03:03:16,080
We do also ask our officers to go off on the air

2536
03:03:16,080 --> 03:03:17,540
with the reason for the stop.

2537
03:03:18,040 --> 03:03:19,640
So everybody that does a car stop

2538
03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:22,000
It's supposed to articulate on the radio.

2539
03:03:22,340 --> 03:03:23,780
I'm stopping this graph for a red violation.

2540
03:03:24,200 --> 03:03:25,500
I'm stopping this graph for a TLA.

2541
03:03:25,720 --> 03:03:26,380
I'm stopping this graph for a TLA.

2542
03:03:26,380 --> 03:03:26,700
I'm stopping this graph for a speed.

2543
03:03:27,180 --> 03:03:27,760
Am I missing anything?

2544
03:03:28,140 --> 03:03:28,600
No, same thing.

2545
03:03:29,180 --> 03:03:29,320
There you go.

2546
03:03:29,580 --> 03:03:29,620
No.

2547
03:03:29,760 --> 03:03:29,920
No.

2548
03:03:29,920 --> 03:03:30,760
So that's the notion.

2549
03:03:30,920 --> 03:03:34,240
And again, what we're trying to control for, again, another correlation.

2550
03:03:34,540 --> 03:03:40,520
I don't have PhDs on staff, if we're increasing the number of stops, it's isn't

2551
03:03:40,520 --> 03:03:40,800
required.

2552
03:03:41,740 --> 03:03:43,520
The complaints are still growing down.

2553
03:03:43,780 --> 03:03:44,580
I mean, throwing.

2554
03:03:44,840 --> 03:03:48,580
I can't come and clue, but I mean, throwing, that people feel they're being treated

2555
03:03:48,580 --> 03:03:50,480
Fairly is supposed to be harassed.

2556
03:03:50,680 --> 03:03:51,660
But that's not at all.

2557
03:03:51,800 --> 03:03:55,860
This assumes a very solid complaints system that people actually trusted.

2558
03:03:56,520 --> 03:03:58,300
Well, I mean, that does does to danger.

2559
03:03:58,680 --> 03:04:00,340
But there's more play I agree.

2560
03:04:00,500 --> 03:04:01,060
You're correct.

2561
03:04:01,460 --> 03:04:03,800
But there's more places to make it complete now than I ever before.

2562
03:04:04,060 --> 03:04:04,520
I mean, there's good.

2563
03:04:04,780 --> 03:04:05,800
I mean, you come to the commission.

2564
03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:06,680
You have to come to us.

2565
03:04:07,540 --> 03:04:08,160
You can go to the newspaper.

2566
03:04:08,700 --> 03:04:09,620
You can go to your order.

2567
03:04:09,960 --> 03:04:11,200
You can come to the station house.

2568
03:04:11,460 --> 03:04:12,420
You can go to the fine police commission.

2569
03:04:13,060 --> 03:04:15,260
So, I mean, as it's really an appropriate observation,

2570
03:04:15,660 --> 03:04:17,300
but I would just also offer it.

2571
03:04:17,300 --> 03:04:21,100
There's a lot of varieties of ways to access this now.

2572
03:04:22,320 --> 03:04:25,240
I'm going to find them, I'm going to put them in front too.

2573
03:04:25,440 --> 03:04:27,920
Yeah, I'm going to the way to address for all of them,

2574
03:04:28,020 --> 03:04:30,740
Baltimore, and it's trying to get to, is you have cameras in

2575
03:04:30,740 --> 03:04:31,580
college too.

2576
03:04:31,860 --> 03:04:32,340
That's true.

2577
03:04:32,740 --> 03:04:37,880
And so if anybody wants to check if they have PC to stop a vehicle,

2578
03:04:38,280 --> 03:04:39,260
you can check the car.

2579
03:04:39,680 --> 03:04:43,320
Also, there's audio, and when they go up and say, whatever.

2580
03:04:44,060 --> 03:04:49,120
Well, that's, you know, the video is more labelled than the auto, you know, but certainly

2581
03:04:49,120 --> 03:04:53,140
the audio, I'm the video, captures whether or not when we said we stopped you because

2582
03:04:53,140 --> 03:04:57,660
your tail light was out, was your tail light. I can see that. You know, if it's, you know,

2583
03:04:57,660 --> 03:04:59,520
but somebody complains he stopped me for no reason.

2584
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:00,000
Thank you.

2585
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:10,300
This is when it happened. We pull up the video, and you know, your light is out. He did stop you in. But if there's nothing wrong with the vehicle, we can see that too. So, yeah, there's another point.

2586
03:05:10,600 --> 03:05:15,180
There's some chaos, say, for anyway. Okay. Okay, next.

2587
03:05:17,660 --> 03:05:26,460
Again, that's a, again, for analysis of the increase in subject stops before we did cross stops. This is the Pedestrian stops.

2588
03:05:26,460 --> 03:05:29,640
This has been a period of 28 percent decrease in subject stops.

2589
03:05:30,240 --> 03:05:34,240
Same token has been a 44 percent decrease in external complaints or let's see in period

2590
03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:35,680
of time.

2591
03:05:36,640 --> 03:05:40,800
There has been an increase from last year with this year, and obviously a significant increase

2592
03:05:40,800 --> 03:05:42,600
from O7 to O11.

2593
03:05:43,140 --> 03:05:44,020
Next slide.

2594
03:05:45,040 --> 03:05:45,180
Excuse me.

2595
03:05:47,060 --> 03:05:54,100
The pedestrian stops, these are pedestrian violations that we're in this period of question.

2596
03:05:54,340 --> 03:05:55,160
No, there's this.

2597
03:05:55,160 --> 03:05:55,320
There's this.

2598
03:05:55,320 --> 03:05:57,860
So the question stops, that's why there's a lot fewer of them.

2599
03:05:57,960 --> 03:06:00,260
I mean, you know, it's not as a cause in the road.

2600
03:06:00,680 --> 03:06:03,500
There's a thousand different ways you can buy the traffic law or the equipment law.

2601
03:06:03,920 --> 03:06:07,760
When they're doing subject stops, these are usually specific to neighborhoods and usually

2602
03:06:08,460 --> 03:06:11,280
connected to operations or doing to reduce specific crimes.

2603
03:06:11,800 --> 03:06:12,540
And so they're interventions.

2604
03:06:13,260 --> 03:06:14,300
For some of them, they're just like that.

2605
03:06:14,360 --> 03:06:14,900
Might be high.

2606
03:06:14,980 --> 03:06:17,240
Are you the way what's new, have a nice day.

2607
03:06:17,540 --> 03:06:22,320
For some of them, they're related to, you know, areas searches for suspects.

2608
03:06:22,320 --> 03:06:29,200
Some of them were just asking them to stop people on engagement conversation because there's been an increase in rent type of crime or another.

2609
03:06:29,760 --> 03:06:39,320
So it's, it's not like you're getting a citation or a warning, you're having a conversation, and if a conversation leads to anything fine, it doesn't.

2610
03:06:40,240 --> 03:06:41,580
You know, people go about their business.

2611
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:47,480
These are largely, these are often generated by our bike cats or our foot cats as well as our, uh, second cars.

2612
03:06:48,760 --> 03:06:49,180
Thank you.

2613
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:51,400
All right.

2614
03:06:52,320 --> 03:06:59,000
Okay. This is subject stops by race, by district. Once again, as you can see, district

2615
03:06:59,000 --> 03:07:03,320
1 and 6, the largest percentage of white, the district 2, large percentage of

2616
03:07:03,320 --> 03:07:10,000
rice, panic, ups, no more, district 2 and so on, right as well. And the district's 3, 4, 5, and 7,

2617
03:07:10,220 --> 03:07:15,680
once again, I would like to know that African-American people are stat and talk to I police officers.

2618
03:07:15,680 --> 03:07:22,320
Mr. Anderson, what's missing in this particular slide, though, chief, to make your argument

2619
03:07:22,320 --> 03:07:27,140
is that, in those particular districts, what is the majority, what is the percentage

2620
03:07:27,140 --> 03:07:28,740
of that ethnicity population?

2621
03:07:29,440 --> 03:07:34,320
It doesn't want me to take a look at this particular graph, they would say, revise it over

2622
03:07:34,320 --> 03:07:39,520
around the amount of African Americans getting stopped in these particular districts.

2623
03:07:40,040 --> 03:07:45,000
And if you have a high percentage of population that is in that district that is that that's

2624
03:07:45,000 --> 03:07:52,500
grew more than likely the numbers will occur. So I'm taking a look at this and try and look

2625
03:07:53,420 --> 03:07:58,780
through some of the statistical data in higher percentages, but being from the walking and

2626
03:07:58,780 --> 03:08:03,000
understanding police districts, I know that those particular districts are highly

2627
03:08:03,000 --> 03:08:11,740
ethnic, African-American population. So you may want to consider a true data purposes to draw

2628
03:08:11,740 --> 03:08:13,380
correlation with the statistics.

2629
03:08:13,940 --> 03:08:17,740
Well, we are going to do shortly, I'll show you some slides that

2630
03:08:18,860 --> 03:08:21,500
in trying that we had a suspect description.

2631
03:08:22,160 --> 03:08:23,920
We're going to provide that data by district.

2632
03:08:24,100 --> 03:08:27,780
We're also going to provide victimization data by district where we have

2633
03:08:27,780 --> 03:08:28,520
that information.

2634
03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:31,660
And you know, again, keep in mind, these are subject stops

2635
03:08:31,660 --> 03:08:35,600
and the cross stops aren't even a phone across the 24 hour day.

2636
03:08:36,120 --> 03:08:38,080
You know, we're going to do a lot more subject stops.

2637
03:08:38,080 --> 03:08:41,940
10 o'clock at night and I came to do it and we are going to do it and we are going to say 2 o'clock

2638
03:08:41,940 --> 03:08:46,920
and we have to know and I will cry and the reason is okay who is out about it this time

2639
03:08:46,920 --> 03:08:54,500
the night in this neighborhood and do what you need. So what's the two question before you go?

2640
03:08:54,700 --> 03:09:02,580
Hello, I'm Chris. To add along to what Audermen Davis was just suggesting. I would also

2641
03:09:02,580 --> 03:09:09,000
suggested and it's because what I see right from this data is a comparison also with Milwaukee's

2642
03:09:09,000 --> 03:09:16,320
driving population and the ethnicity of that. As I look at the numbers, I see exactly what

2643
03:09:16,320 --> 03:09:21,600
Autumn and Davis was saying as well because there are traffic stops. I think having a point

2644
03:09:21,600 --> 03:09:32,560
of reference for how percentage based upon ethnicity that have licensed drivers within the

2645
03:09:32,560 --> 03:09:40,760
Now, I also recommend that some people don't have a license when they drive them too, but I think that would help in analyzing this data as well.

2646
03:09:41,700 --> 03:09:45,060
I'll make this point again and I'll just say we'll go through the data we do have.

2647
03:09:46,040 --> 03:09:51,540
There's a cottage industry out there trying to identify the appropriate denominator for analyzing car Scott data.

2648
03:09:51,920 --> 03:09:55,000
And I've seen more different denominators use than you can imagine.

2649
03:09:55,540 --> 03:09:59,960
But again, I offer the essential point, virtually all of the work that was done.

2650
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:05,520
Developing not denominators was developed for highway patrols, trying to estimate who is on the highway.

2651
03:10:06,360 --> 03:10:20,540
When you were in a central city neighborhood, played by high rates of crime, and you put city camps in there for the purpose of stopping cars, not to try to find drugs, but to stop cars in the high crime neighborhood, to disrupt the environment.

2652
03:10:21,160 --> 03:10:27,220
That's a different denominator than the famous estimated driving population, which was a construct.

2653
03:10:27,220 --> 03:10:31,200
It was an estimate, so try to figure out, for example, who's going to be on the New Jersey

2654
03:10:31,200 --> 03:10:33,500
tram bike if we move funds where it can can do?

2655
03:10:33,900 --> 03:10:33,920
All right?

2656
03:10:34,260 --> 03:10:38,720
You couldn't prove it, because the census population was moving through, so they developed these

2657
03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:42,060
estimates, and that's how state troopers got held accountable for disparities.

2658
03:10:43,080 --> 03:10:46,660
There's not an urban police chief that will say that's the way to try to understand what

2659
03:10:46,660 --> 03:10:51,500
we're doing in an urban neighborhood in which we've got the data points to show.

2660
03:10:51,740 --> 03:10:55,340
Wow, there's a lot of British robberies and carpets here, we got to put the cops on the

2661
03:10:55,340 --> 03:10:55,680
dots.

2662
03:10:55,680 --> 03:11:01,820
That's just an entirely different construct than saying we want to see if we can catch drug dealers on the highway

2663
03:11:01,820 --> 03:11:09,680
Let's stop a bunch of people and cause all of them five years who appear to be Latino or African-American and our dress casually

2664
03:11:09,680 --> 03:11:11,600
That's a totally different

2665
03:11:12,760 --> 03:11:13,280
denominator

2666
03:11:14,320 --> 03:11:17,880
If we went with it that new rate is totally different new rate of denominator issue

2667
03:11:17,880 --> 03:11:24,620
And so that's why we spent time rather looking at victim population and subject descriptions because we're not

2668
03:11:24,620 --> 03:11:28,920
not trolling for drugs here. This is a different thing. Let's go to the next slide. It might

2669
03:11:28,920 --> 03:11:34,340
be helpful. Now, this is city-wide, which again will be somewhat skewed. We'll go to the

2670
03:11:34,340 --> 03:11:41,120
district by district for you as well. But these are the city-wide and what we have listed for you

2671
03:11:43,020 --> 03:11:48,980
is three columns for each crime. In each crime, you're going to have the percentage of suspects

2672
03:11:48,980 --> 03:11:54,160
So arrested for that crime, they described suspect numbers.

2673
03:11:54,360 --> 03:11:58,780
There's always going to be a gap there because a lot of crimes we don't have.

2674
03:11:58,840 --> 03:12:00,480
They describe suspect law on the site.

2675
03:12:00,620 --> 03:12:02,340
They need to show there is no description of a suspect.

2676
03:12:02,780 --> 03:12:04,840
Percolese is almost no description of a suspect.

2677
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:07,280
Carve that there's seldom a described suspect.

2678
03:12:07,700 --> 03:12:12,480
We put that in there and the third part is the race of the victim.

2679
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:17,020
So if we're going to get by statewide excuse me,

2680
03:12:17,020 --> 03:12:23,100
You can certainly see clearly where the disparity in crime victimization fails.

2681
03:12:23,540 --> 03:12:24,720
It overwhelmingly fails.

2682
03:12:25,240 --> 03:12:31,040
In some of the neighborhoods we described in the overwhelmingly afflicts African Americans who live in those neighborhoods.

2683
03:12:31,960 --> 03:12:42,340
And that obviously is going to drive our deployments because we try to, as we try to reduce the amount of crime in those neighborhoods.

2684
03:12:45,040 --> 03:12:50,740
So I think you'll have that right, so you have this, okay, so we'll put it in the next one.

2685
03:12:50,840 --> 03:12:51,300
Mr. Chair?

2686
03:12:52,560 --> 03:12:55,740
So if you look at the model vehicle theft, the binary and the homicide,

2687
03:12:56,000 --> 03:12:59,320
if you look at the suspect description and does it rest it,

2688
03:12:59,900 --> 03:13:03,260
and if you look at all the columns of race for most of Rome except

2689
03:13:03,260 --> 03:13:06,760
on now, it's pretty much within a couple of percentage points.

2690
03:13:06,760 --> 03:13:14,980
is a reason why for a black's on this chart there is such a large discrepancy in the percentage

2691
03:13:14,980 --> 03:13:19,560
of suspect description versus the percentage that were arrested for. The moderators go back

2692
03:13:19,560 --> 03:13:20,580
to the board and we're in the homestone.

2693
03:13:20,780 --> 03:13:26,500
Sure. If you look at the 30 carefully, you see the three quarters of the time we don't know

2694
03:13:26,500 --> 03:13:34,460
with the suspect look like at the time of the crime. So 23% if you look at this differently,

2695
03:13:34,460 --> 03:13:42,060
If we only know the description, 25% of the time realistically, that 20% is 90%, all right?

2696
03:13:42,200 --> 03:13:46,260
So originally, we just did this based on the total crime rating for those particular crimes,

2697
03:13:46,380 --> 03:13:50,520
but we encarced up at the time of the crime, we often don't know who stole the car.

2698
03:13:50,920 --> 03:13:56,340
We know who we arrest for where we are on, we stop a car, it's stolen, it's full of five guys from the neighborhood.

2699
03:13:57,080 --> 03:14:01,540
Okay, so that's five arrests, the time the car was stolen, we didn't know there was no description.

2700
03:14:01,940 --> 03:14:05,360
So, I mean, that's how it works for both of us as well.

2701
03:14:05,840 --> 03:14:06,540
Thank you.

2702
03:14:07,260 --> 03:14:08,000
We have a good question.

2703
03:14:08,140 --> 03:14:09,880
Thanks for getting the chance to clarify that.

2704
03:14:10,740 --> 03:14:10,880
All right.

2705
03:14:10,880 --> 03:14:14,100
So, if we go this way, by district, then we move to all too much.

2706
03:14:14,980 --> 03:14:16,140
But just we'll get a sense again.

2707
03:14:16,260 --> 03:14:17,960
You should drop the date in front of you.

2708
03:14:18,780 --> 03:14:19,640
Once again, district 1.

2709
03:14:20,900 --> 03:14:23,380
This is the, we've got wrong numbers elsewhere.

2710
03:14:23,400 --> 03:14:24,700
But this is the percentage breakdown.

2711
03:14:25,220 --> 03:14:31,440
Again, those arrested, those described, and those victimized for the, for the five

2712
03:14:31,440 --> 03:14:36,300
times this set above, trying to put it on one place so you get a sense again, but what

2713
03:14:36,300 --> 03:14:43,520
it looks like in District 1, in District 2. You see, again, a change in some numbers, driven

2714
03:14:43,520 --> 03:14:46,460
largely by the population of District 2,

2715
03:14:50,590 --> 03:14:53,410
and with District 3, we're going to begin to see

2716
03:14:53,410 --> 03:14:55,070
a different disparity again.

2717
03:14:58,850 --> 03:14:59,970
Kind of going to all the mid-day, this is just, this is just

2718
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:05,140
It doesn't like a sense of state, but it gives you a sense of who lives there based on a percentage of crime victims.

2719
03:15:08,980 --> 03:15:09,720
District 4,

2720
03:15:20,070 --> 03:15:20,710
District 5,

2721
03:15:30,380 --> 03:15:31,080
District 6,

2722
03:15:41,030 --> 03:15:41,950
and District 7.

2723
03:15:52,500 --> 03:15:55,820
We have one last slide that kind of sums up.

2724
03:16:10,280 --> 03:16:24,360
The general point we're trying to make is that you know, controlling four things that are within the knowledge of the police department, which is who are victims, who is arrested, whether they occur and where are we trying to concentrate our

2725
03:16:25,200 --> 03:16:35,140
car and pedestrian stops, you go in back to the, let's see, first, second, third.

2726
03:16:35,920 --> 03:16:38,640
If you go back to the fourth slide with the three density maps,

2727
03:16:42,900 --> 03:16:43,800
here we go.

2728
03:16:44,540 --> 03:16:50,100
We're trying to make the point that where we are going is where we are needed.

2729
03:16:50,880 --> 03:16:54,600
The neighborhoods that are afflicted by high rates of crime, no they are.

2730
03:16:54,600 --> 03:17:00,100
have been largely supported of our efforts as measured by citizen complaint data and that our

2731
03:17:00,100 --> 03:17:04,160
efforts track briefly with trying to take a decision data.

2732
03:17:06,720 --> 03:17:11,120
Now, we're going to continue to get this data and continue to make reports, and certainly keep

2733
03:17:11,120 --> 03:17:14,400
ourselves available for our questions and concerns.

2734
03:17:16,580 --> 03:17:21,040
Thank you, Chief, for coming to questions by committee members or all of them impacts.

2735
03:17:22,000 --> 03:17:22,580
Mr. Chair?

2736
03:17:22,980 --> 03:17:24,020
All of them impacts?

2737
03:17:25,700 --> 03:17:30,700
What percentage of the traffic stops result in searches and do you have that data

2738
03:17:30,700 --> 03:17:32,940
button down into ethnic groups?

2739
03:17:33,460 --> 03:17:38,380
We don't keep that data because there's never been a goal of the program, you know, again,

2740
03:17:38,500 --> 03:17:42,740
if this is a drug introduction policy in my hit rate with matter, that's not the goal.

2741
03:17:42,920 --> 03:17:45,100
I mean, I've made it clear to officers all along.

2742
03:17:45,520 --> 03:17:50,600
If I can get to a place in Milwaukee where drug dealing is unabtrusive and non-violent, I'll

2743
03:17:50,600 --> 03:17:51,980
consider that a win.

2744
03:17:51,980 --> 03:17:57,100
All right, I'm not fooling myself that if we see X number of drugs, we're going to enjoy the

2745
03:17:57,100 --> 03:18:01,900
like we need high quality investigations to reduce drugs, but my biggest concern about drugs

2746
03:18:01,900 --> 03:18:03,160
is that they impact on violence.

2747
03:18:04,520 --> 03:18:07,860
So, you know, the work that the troops isn't going to go out there to figure our way to get into the

2748
03:18:07,860 --> 03:18:09,160
trunk so you can keep your drugs.

2749
03:18:09,500 --> 03:18:11,340
The word out there is that it's a shopping environment.

2750
03:18:11,820 --> 03:18:15,240
Keep an eye out for our chronic bad guys and see if we can lower the violence.

2751
03:18:17,060 --> 03:18:18,100
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2752
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:21,300
Well, we're going to help all the women who

2753
03:18:21,300 --> 03:18:24,240
cogs question, maybe you can elaborate on what

2754
03:18:24,240 --> 03:18:25,720
it takes to do a pat down.

2755
03:18:26,440 --> 03:18:28,800
And you work a sort of a pat down or the search of the vehicle?

2756
03:18:30,460 --> 03:18:30,520
No.

2757
03:18:30,960 --> 03:18:31,180
OK.

2758
03:18:31,480 --> 03:18:36,040
What does it take to do a pat down and what does it do to do a search

2759
03:18:36,040 --> 03:18:38,880
of the vehicle within, as I know, the lung area?

2760
03:18:39,800 --> 03:18:41,400
So maybe that would help her question.

2761
03:18:42,360 --> 03:18:44,820
You're always guided by some level of reasonable suspicion.

2762
03:18:45,480 --> 03:18:47,500
You should be something objective about the intervention

2763
03:18:47,500 --> 03:18:53,720
you have a concern that somebody might be armed or acting in a way consistent with somebody who's an armed defender.

2764
03:18:54,120 --> 03:18:58,660
Perhaps there are no defender that you've known in the past has been carrying a weapon or as access to one.

2765
03:18:58,900 --> 03:19:03,600
You know when we stop a quarrel right now, I mean somebody is running the plate the moment you stop it.

2766
03:19:03,720 --> 03:19:07,340
And you give a need to somebody they start running the person for wants and wants and wants.

2767
03:19:07,340 --> 03:19:11,180
It may not be an act of war not, but they may be a known defender that you didn't know they were a defender.

2768
03:19:11,620 --> 03:19:14,660
And maybe they're the only way that looks like they're trying to conceal something.

2769
03:19:14,660 --> 03:19:22,720
So, certainly patting down somebody from your safety or looking at the reach area depends upon the reason of a list of your suspicion in which if you end up making an arrest,

2770
03:19:23,140 --> 03:19:25,960
you're going to have to be able to justify an endocrine examination.

2771
03:19:27,300 --> 03:19:36,300
Yeah, I think there's this perception that people don't get searched unless they get arrested, and that's why I'm trying to point out here that that's not the fact.

2772
03:19:36,300 --> 03:19:42,700
In fact, it's the safety and well-being of the officer, if you feel that he or she is in danger,

2773
03:19:43,000 --> 03:19:48,760
or their safety is compromised, depending on the individual who is stopped is acting.

2774
03:19:49,260 --> 03:19:50,620
They have their hands in their pockets.

2775
03:19:51,320 --> 03:19:53,180
They have their own drug dealer.

2776
03:19:53,620 --> 03:19:58,620
Maybe some prior history with that individual could cause that individual to do a pat down.

2777
03:19:59,040 --> 03:20:00,000
I didn't mean to ask you to do it.

2778
03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:13,840
All right, thank you. Mr. Chair, how are the doors? Let me just say those statistics kind of bear what I consider a good initiative here in the city in Milwaukee.

2779
03:20:14,060 --> 03:20:29,080
I'll tell you the reason why I'm a preference of my comments by being cautiously optimistic. The reason why I preference that that way is that the reason why I see this is important is because 10, 15 years ago I'm Milwaukee.

2780
03:20:29,080 --> 03:20:31,120
It was actually a drug taken.

2781
03:20:31,460 --> 03:20:42,660
The bad guys would be able to float through our neighborhoods with kilos in their cars and we would never know exactly what they were being involved in until the neighborhood actually employed.

2782
03:20:43,420 --> 03:20:51,320
And we had, in my opinion, a very high murder rate based upon the 9 addressing of that issue.

2783
03:20:51,840 --> 03:20:57,980
But I see currently right now, which is the success and this is the reason why I preference my comments chief.

2784
03:20:57,980 --> 03:21:05,300
being cautiously optimistic is the returling of the professional performance division.

2785
03:21:05,560 --> 03:21:07,420
And I'll tell you the reason why I think that's important.

2786
03:21:08,340 --> 03:21:16,020
The culture used to be, you do something, you get away with it, you lie, maybe you get caught, maybe not.

2787
03:21:16,900 --> 03:21:22,260
Cautiously optimistic based upon some of the things that have happened in the department, not only

2788
03:21:22,260 --> 03:21:38,120
within the administration, but also with the MPF, to make sure that at the end of the day the citizens are the ones to be protected and not so much to establish a culture to be put in the Milwaukee Police Department.

2789
03:21:38,560 --> 03:21:48,280
That has helped a medium and with the constituents in which I represent because when the liaison officer, the community liaison officer, comes out and discuss these issues.

2790
03:21:48,860 --> 03:21:53,200
Not only the residents who have kids who are being stopped by the Milwaukee Police Department,

2791
03:21:53,200 --> 03:21:58,320
they feel comfortable, that the interaction with that officer, more than likely,

2792
03:21:58,580 --> 03:22:00,660
will be a positive experience.

2793
03:22:02,000 --> 03:22:04,920
I mean, I don't know how you can actually say that before you.

2794
03:22:05,020 --> 03:22:08,020
I stopped by the Milwaukee Police Department, we need a positive experience.

2795
03:22:08,920 --> 03:22:14,300
But in past, it used to be a little bit more of a confrontational,

2796
03:22:14,300 --> 03:22:19,920
possibly violent type of interaction that our young people,

2797
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:24,280
specifically African Americans in Latino, may not be able to tell that story.

2798
03:22:24,900 --> 03:22:27,660
I believe that the reason why this has become a success

2799
03:22:27,660 --> 03:22:33,140
and whether the statistics bear that there is ethnic specifics that are being stopped.

2800
03:22:33,380 --> 03:22:37,540
I see that as a deterrent on a young person actually being sent to jail,

2801
03:22:38,280 --> 03:22:41,420
and a deterrent for them not to become involved in bad opportunities

2802
03:22:41,420 --> 03:22:51,340
because they know that in a break of an eye, you can be stopped, in a view, and also given

2803
03:22:51,340 --> 03:22:55,560
an opportunity to get your life together. Because I've seen it, I've been out there and

2804
03:22:55,560 --> 03:22:59,940
traffic stopped where the young officers that are out there now. They understand the importance

2805
03:22:59,940 --> 03:23:07,360
of community policing. So, I'm cautiously optimistic that this deployment strategy will continue

2806
03:23:07,360 --> 03:23:10,440
to be successful because it has a proliferation

2807
03:23:10,440 --> 03:23:14,540
of some of the negative indicators and writing the role.

2808
03:23:15,140 --> 03:23:19,120
And I can see from young and individual standpoint,

2809
03:23:19,640 --> 03:23:22,500
that now starting to talk about this within their own groups,

2810
03:23:22,700 --> 03:23:24,760
the urban underground, the city of Milwaukee,

2811
03:23:25,020 --> 03:23:28,300
youth council, no longer are they talking about police brutality,

2812
03:23:28,760 --> 03:23:31,680
but they're talking about how they can work in a collaborative way

2813
03:23:31,680 --> 03:23:34,280
in order for them to deal with some of the negative indicators

2814
03:23:34,280 --> 03:23:35,700
that they know that they experience.

2815
03:23:35,700 --> 03:23:45,160
I mean, if some of you may not represent areas like that, I do represent areas in the district in which I represent like all the women cocks.

2816
03:23:45,580 --> 03:23:52,080
Now, I represent 91st and Silver Spanagan. Now, I represent the area around 104th and Mill Road.

2817
03:23:52,600 --> 03:23:58,820
Those kids that are out there, if they're not top, the right way in order for them to behave, they're going to make mistakes.

2818
03:23:58,820 --> 03:24:03,900
My purpose is that they just run into the right police officers going to follow the right protocol.

2819
03:24:04,800 --> 03:24:13,660
And so I would be first to go out and live and continue to support this once again,

2820
03:24:14,480 --> 03:24:20,720
stating that I'm cautiously optimistic because of the professional performance situation

2821
03:24:20,720 --> 03:24:26,420
and those who are involved in the professional performance division understand what their purpose is.

2822
03:24:26,420 --> 03:24:32,580
And that is to make sure that we could get officers in the street who understand exactly what

2823
03:24:32,580 --> 03:24:33,260
they're mission is.

2824
03:24:33,540 --> 03:24:34,420
So thank you, Mr. President.

2825
03:24:34,520 --> 03:24:36,660
I mean thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2826
03:24:36,800 --> 03:24:37,700
Mr. Chairman.

2827
03:24:38,360 --> 03:24:38,700
Thank you.

2828
03:24:38,800 --> 03:24:38,920
All right.

2829
03:24:39,320 --> 03:24:39,560
All right.

2830
03:24:39,560 --> 03:24:39,680
All right.

2831
03:24:41,780 --> 03:24:45,020
Thank you, Chief, for the data that you did present.

2832
03:24:45,080 --> 03:24:50,660
And I think part of the reason that I've asked some of the questions that I've asked

2833
03:24:51,800 --> 03:24:59,080
because of the, you know, you collect the data in a way that helps you to do the prime

2834
03:24:59,480 --> 03:24:59,880
transition.

2835
03:25:02,970 --> 03:25:10,790
I'm sure many of my colleagues go this, the crime prevention, but also the preservation of the rights of the people that we represent.

2836
03:25:11,670 --> 03:25:27,330
And as I hear from those who are pleased with all everything that's going on and with the decrease and all of crime and all that in the neighborhood and with the presence of police and everything, also hear from those who feel like they might have been violated.

2837
03:25:27,330 --> 03:25:34,110
And probably the reason I asked that last question about the searches is because President

2838
03:25:34,110 --> 03:25:37,870
has sent me information and I want, I'm a person who wants to check on facts, which

2839
03:25:37,870 --> 03:25:43,650
is why I actually let about the searches that after the stop, the walking police search

2840
03:25:43,650 --> 03:25:49,550
to vehicles of black drivers twice as often as whites or one search for every 12 stops, but

2841
03:25:49,550 --> 03:25:54,890
police found contraband items in searches and robbing black drivers are almost the same

2842
03:25:54,890 --> 03:25:57,790
as white at about 20% of the time.

2843
03:25:58,270 --> 03:26:01,310
Now, based on this data, I wouldn't know if that's true or not.

2844
03:26:01,790 --> 03:26:03,870
And for me, as we look at,

2845
03:26:03,870 --> 03:26:04,750
not just crime prevention,

2846
03:26:05,090 --> 03:26:06,930
but also the potential for racial profiling,

2847
03:26:07,310 --> 03:26:08,370
or civil rights violations,

2848
03:26:10,170 --> 03:26:11,470
I would want to know about searches.

2849
03:26:11,790 --> 03:26:16,130
Because if it is a disproportionate thing going on

2850
03:26:16,130 --> 03:26:18,250
with the Indian searches,

2851
03:26:18,270 --> 03:26:19,410
and people feel about it,

2852
03:26:19,630 --> 03:26:23,230
because of that, that matters to me as an order person.

2853
03:26:23,230 --> 03:26:28,490
So I get the crime prevention piece and I get autisticistic that you provide it and I appreciate that.

2854
03:26:29,130 --> 03:26:37,050
But as we deal with the racial profile and issue which this initial role was created to help deal with when it in the state passed initially.

2855
03:26:37,490 --> 03:26:46,270
And I think that many of us as auto and also want to present the such piece might be a critical piece to help do this because that might be wrong.

2856
03:26:46,410 --> 03:26:51,610
That might be 100% wrong, but I don't know because that's my in the data with the traffic stop stuff.

2857
03:26:51,610 --> 03:26:55,390
So I don't know if we need to amend that eventually and put that in the resolution, I'm

2858
03:26:55,390 --> 03:26:56,950
just asked for that data as well.

2859
03:26:57,050 --> 03:27:02,150
But I do think that's an important piece as far as on a citizen side, for them telling

2860
03:27:02,150 --> 03:27:05,010
my, it's not a disproportionate,

2861
03:27:07,290 --> 03:27:08,550
and on the search side.

2862
03:27:10,110 --> 03:27:11,150
Thank you.

2863
03:27:11,370 --> 03:27:11,690
Thank you.

2864
03:27:12,010 --> 03:27:12,690
Thank you.

2865
03:27:12,690 --> 03:27:13,190
Thank you.

2866
03:27:13,330 --> 03:27:14,230
Thank you.

2867
03:27:14,230 --> 03:27:21,590
Yeah, I do get complaints as well from my constituents about this and one of the things that I make

2868
03:27:21,590 --> 03:27:32,530
I stress to them is the chief under state statute has great discussion in how he deploys his resources.

2869
03:27:33,650 --> 03:27:40,550
And in fact, the council has absolutely no power to tell you to do something different in this arena.

2870
03:27:40,730 --> 03:27:45,610
Now, you may choose to, our origin in suggestion, I understand that, and you're very forthcoming,

2871
03:27:45,670 --> 03:27:49,710
and you always present very good information, and very precise answers, and that's great.

2872
03:27:49,710 --> 03:27:51,530
But you're basically here as a courtesy.

2873
03:27:52,350 --> 03:27:55,730
You really don't have to report to us on any of these issues

2874
03:27:55,730 --> 03:27:58,410
and you certainly don't have to take our direction.

2875
03:27:58,490 --> 03:27:59,550
Now, you do have to take the direction

2876
03:27:59,550 --> 03:28:01,470
of the Fire Police Commission, at least on paper.

2877
03:28:02,230 --> 03:28:04,730
And so I tell my constituents, this is the real entity

2878
03:28:05,190 --> 03:28:09,110
that these complaints should be brought to is the Fire Police

2879
03:28:09,110 --> 03:28:11,090
Commission, because that's the only entity

2880
03:28:11,090 --> 03:28:13,850
that has the legal authority in doing things about it.

2881
03:28:13,870 --> 03:28:15,830
I mean, this is a great TV camera here.

2882
03:28:16,070 --> 03:28:17,570
That's our television, great watching.

2883
03:28:17,570 --> 03:28:22,770
But at least commission meets quietly at night, nobody knows or even meeting, I mean, it's not

2884
03:28:22,770 --> 03:28:23,450
a couple of times.

2885
03:28:23,870 --> 03:28:25,010
And they disagree with that.

2886
03:28:25,070 --> 03:28:27,210
They sell them cameras, they go far.

2887
03:28:28,170 --> 03:28:30,490
And there's a great little public present.

2888
03:28:30,770 --> 03:28:31,990
And they're certainly not on TV.

2889
03:28:32,770 --> 03:28:35,790
And that's the entity they can really do something about this line.

2890
03:28:35,790 --> 03:28:36,430
Courage people.

2891
03:28:36,490 --> 03:28:37,430
And I'm making this comment.

2892
03:28:37,610 --> 03:28:38,930
Most of those watching on television.

2893
03:28:39,790 --> 03:28:44,190
So if you have concerns in this area, you know, let us know where the elected officials

2894
03:28:44,190 --> 03:28:45,010
and that's great.

2895
03:28:45,010 --> 03:28:49,710
We'll do what we can, but what we're going to do is tell you, you have to file a complaint.

2896
03:28:50,430 --> 03:28:52,250
You have to go to the Fire Police Commission.

2897
03:28:52,470 --> 03:28:56,650
You have to request a hearing request to general review by the Fire Police Commission,

2898
03:28:56,850 --> 03:29:01,250
because they at least on paper have the authority to issue directives.

2899
03:29:01,250 --> 03:29:07,730
We have absolutely no power to direct you to do something or to direct you to refrain from doing something.

2900
03:29:08,810 --> 03:29:12,590
That's true, but I can assure you there's an honest comment council,

2901
03:29:12,590 --> 03:29:15,970
that's on my budget. I'll be happy to see it, thank you, Mayor.

2902
03:29:16,830 --> 03:29:20,570
And you've been for it coming. I know I'm just interested in the country, but I mean

2903
03:29:20,570 --> 03:29:25,470
sometimes a lot of the matter in these arenas and in terms of defining it, who actually

2904
03:29:25,470 --> 03:29:31,610
has part, constituent comes in me instead of hearing about a stop sign, that we have authority

2905
03:29:31,610 --> 03:29:36,630
over it. And we can make a decision. Yes or no, on installing a stop sign. We don't have authority

2906
03:29:36,630 --> 03:29:42,130
on yes or no, on continuing this policy of traffic stops or modifying the policy of traffic

2907
03:29:42,130 --> 03:29:45,770
staff, the council has no will, authority in the matter.

2908
03:29:46,230 --> 03:29:49,210
And that's how state statute has created our public safety

2909
03:29:49,210 --> 03:29:50,150
structure in Wisconsin.

2910
03:29:51,310 --> 03:29:51,730
So, be it.

2911
03:29:51,790 --> 03:29:54,210
But that's, it's important to point that out for the public,

2912
03:29:54,310 --> 03:29:56,330
to lay things somehow we can make a difference here.

2913
03:29:56,830 --> 03:29:58,170
And our ability to do so is the government.

2914
03:29:59,010 --> 03:29:59,470
Mr. Chan?

2915
03:29:59,730 --> 03:29:59,970
Yes.

2916
03:30:00,880 --> 03:30:21,560
All the members exactly correct, and that's why I give much credit to Chief Plain and his team, because you know, I've done a lot of these solutions, then all the police matters, and they've always been willing to come before the committee, and to answer the questions that we posted down, although, in fact, as you state, the Foreign Police Commission is still real authority.

2917
03:30:21,560 --> 03:30:28,520
And so the presence and the sharing of the information is truly a choice by the chief and his

2918
03:30:28,520 --> 03:30:29,700
department to do so.

2919
03:30:30,000 --> 03:30:32,220
I do thank them for being willing to do that for the public.

2920
03:30:32,760 --> 03:30:37,100
Mr. Jack, and I know that all of them read is sure to talk about the openness and transparency

2921
03:30:37,100 --> 03:30:38,360
as well as all of them.

2922
03:30:39,040 --> 03:30:40,100
Thanks for the pitch.

2923
03:30:40,940 --> 03:30:46,120
I did miss a good portion of this, but openness and transparency is important.

2924
03:30:46,700 --> 03:30:50,460
In all of those, we don't have that authority to authority lies within the Fire and Police

2925
03:30:50,460 --> 03:30:50,860
Commission.

2926
03:30:50,860 --> 03:30:52,820
And there are some things that we can do as

2927
03:30:52,820 --> 03:30:58,320
Alderman to how the Fire and Police Commission operates

2928
03:30:58,320 --> 03:31:01,120
for instance, a couple years back,

2929
03:31:01,200 --> 03:31:03,220
Citizens couldn't come in and speak

2930
03:31:03,220 --> 03:31:05,160
at the Fire and Police Commission.

2931
03:31:05,660 --> 03:31:06,940
Alderman Davis, Alderman Hines,

2932
03:31:07,060 --> 03:31:09,700
and myself for some resolutions were now

2933
03:31:09,700 --> 03:31:13,020
there's a portion of the Fire and Police Commission

2934
03:31:13,020 --> 03:31:15,240
where citizens can actually come in and speak.

2935
03:31:15,640 --> 03:31:17,460
If we want the Fire and Police Commission

2936
03:31:17,460 --> 03:31:18,840
to be very transparent,

2937
03:31:18,840 --> 03:31:21,140
where it may need me to be on channel 25.

2938
03:31:21,660 --> 03:31:24,000
Maybe we need to have some of their hearings on channel 25.

2939
03:31:24,140 --> 03:31:26,280
And that's something from this body

2940
03:31:26,280 --> 03:31:28,520
that we may be able to direct them to do.

2941
03:31:28,800 --> 03:31:30,420
So those are some of the things that I think

2942
03:31:30,420 --> 03:31:33,700
would enhance some of the transparency

2943
03:31:33,700 --> 03:31:35,760
as far as the community is concerned

2944
03:31:36,380 --> 03:31:40,560
because I know an argument about me was saying it in just

2945
03:31:40,560 --> 03:31:42,780
that they need nobody knows when they need.

2946
03:31:43,400 --> 03:31:46,340
But it would be easy if you could just pick up your remote control

2947
03:31:46,340 --> 03:31:49,300
and to me in the town of 25 and see it on TV.

2948
03:31:49,660 --> 03:31:51,720
And it actually in the long run may be something

2949
03:31:51,720 --> 03:31:54,220
that could end up being helpful to the police department.

2950
03:31:54,860 --> 03:31:56,880
So those are some of the things from this body

2951
03:31:56,880 --> 03:31:58,480
that we may look into in the future

2952
03:31:58,480 --> 03:32:02,940
are trying to add to the process of the fire and police commission.

2953
03:32:03,500 --> 03:32:04,200
Thank you all.

2954
03:32:04,480 --> 03:32:09,060
Any other kind of sort of a quick and the fire and police commission

2955
03:32:09,060 --> 03:32:11,940
in their defense just last week I was invited

2956
03:32:11,940 --> 03:32:18,080
to one of the meetings out there, so we're springed here, so they didn't notify me.

2957
03:32:18,680 --> 03:32:22,660
I don't know whether all the men are all the women to get notified, but I know in the past

2958
03:32:22,660 --> 03:32:28,140
I have, and then what I do is I email all my blockwatch groups to let them know that the

2959
03:32:28,140 --> 03:32:32,940
fire and police commission is meeting. And I've been to these meetings and unfortunately,

2960
03:32:33,840 --> 03:32:41,060
there's not a big turnout. Unfortunately, there's a real reason. And so, under behalf, I would say

2961
03:32:41,060 --> 03:32:52,220
And secondly, in looking at all the stats you presented in, and I know you said, we got in the traffic stop dispositions that if you want to be stopped stopped at district number four.

2962
03:32:52,400 --> 03:33:00,860
You know, I'm actually really proud of that, and I think the good citizens in my district who live in district number four are very happy to see that too.

2963
03:33:01,480 --> 03:33:22,240
So, you know, I have to give, you know, cool those two, but I have to commend Captain O'Leary and his staff out there sworn in on someone for being so aggressive in doing their jobs and doing in a very professional way, because I get very little complaints to be honest, which I got one complaint all of last year of a guy in the traffic stop.

2964
03:33:22,240 --> 03:33:26,320
It wasn't in my district, but I, the person lived in my district.

2965
03:33:27,740 --> 03:33:33,940
So, again, I have to commit a cap in the very, just because, you know, my district, the

2966
03:33:33,940 --> 03:33:38,400
ordinary district is in his district, and I'm sure everybody else is doing a great job in the

2967
03:33:38,400 --> 03:33:42,420
market, police department, but I have to recognize those individuals that district number

2968
03:33:42,420 --> 03:33:43,080
four.

2969
03:33:43,120 --> 03:33:44,120
Thank you.

2970
03:33:46,580 --> 03:33:57,660
I'm very impressed with how data is used to analyze and program and fight crime this and in this case to

2971
03:33:57,660 --> 03:34:01,260
I'm sure what's going on in Milwaukee, please keep up with me.

2972
03:34:01,360 --> 03:34:12,660
How do you know this is all relates to, it's extremely detailed and very good as far as I can see enough about it.

2973
03:34:12,660 --> 03:34:14,240
Any other comments or questions by?

2974
03:34:14,480 --> 03:34:17,820
Mr. Chair, I think there was a citizen who wanted to speak on his phone.

2975
03:34:18,120 --> 03:34:20,260
This is not a matter of time.

2976
03:34:20,560 --> 03:34:21,500
Any other questions by?

2977
03:34:22,080 --> 03:34:22,240
Okay.

2978
03:34:24,040 --> 03:34:27,400
Any other questions from committee members?

2979
03:34:28,440 --> 03:34:29,140
Not relevant.

2980
03:34:29,480 --> 03:34:36,560
Go ahead, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, members.

2981
03:34:37,380 --> 03:34:38,620
Sorry about that.

2982
03:34:43,100 --> 03:34:47,280
The item number 10,

2983
03:34:47,680 --> 03:34:49,160
one one zero,

2984
03:34:49,540 --> 03:34:52,600
four communication relating to the

2985
03:34:52,600 --> 03:34:54,420
two thousand urban activities of the

2986
03:34:54,420 --> 03:34:56,080
transportation review board.

2987
03:34:56,080 --> 03:34:59,040
The transportation review board is

2988
03:34:59,040 --> 03:35:00,000
a new board to this.

2989
03:35:08,120 --> 03:35:18,580
So, we have met the heavy month on the second Friday of the month. We have dealt with a variety of issues,

2990
03:35:18,640 --> 03:35:23,520
mostly in an informational capacity. We dealt with taxi care policies in the city Milwaukee.

2991
03:35:23,860 --> 03:35:27,240
We dealt with issues involving valley parking in the city Milwaukee.

2992
03:35:27,240 --> 03:35:34,920
We've got the issues concerning the hospitality industry and downtown Milwaukee and the impact of various transportation.

2993
03:35:35,460 --> 03:35:42,040
The infrastructure concerns relative to the hospitality industry, both in terms of cabs, buses, bus stops,

2994
03:35:43,060 --> 03:35:46,660
taxi cab loading zones, valley parking loading zones.

2995
03:35:47,420 --> 03:35:49,880
We've dealt with issues involving in a moment of station.

2996
03:35:50,180 --> 03:35:55,540
We've had representatives of the Wisconsin Public Transportation in to our meetings to discuss these

2997
03:35:55,540 --> 03:36:01,680
states plans or a lack of plans to, well, certain maintenance facilities are otherwise renovate

2998
03:36:01,680 --> 03:36:06,340
the train shed at the intermoral station, which is so an issue that's up in the air,

2999
03:36:06,460 --> 03:36:09,820
so whether it's going to be funded at all, and if so at work level, and if so, according

3000
03:36:09,820 --> 03:36:16,020
to what specifications, so we primarily operate as an informational and fact gathering body.

3001
03:36:16,740 --> 03:36:22,180
We've advertised the existence of this body to the general public, anyone who would have

3002
03:36:22,180 --> 03:36:27,080
to discuss a particular concern about public transportation taxing,

3003
03:36:27,200 --> 03:36:29,980
and fuss over the case when you'd be a certainly welcome to do so.

3004
03:36:30,400 --> 03:36:32,060
We would be able to do a little bit of a visual complaint,

3005
03:36:32,100 --> 03:36:35,420
so the extent we can, we do have the Director of Operations

3006
03:36:35,420 --> 03:36:38,640
from the Walk County Transit System sitting on the board,

3007
03:36:39,220 --> 03:36:42,340
so you're an opportunity to talk directly to someone

3008
03:36:42,340 --> 03:36:43,700
who's actually in charge of something,

3009
03:36:43,780 --> 03:36:46,560
relative to the County Transit System, which is helpful.

3010
03:36:47,440 --> 03:36:50,040
Several ideas have emanated from the group,

3011
03:36:50,040 --> 03:36:56,400
among which include developing a ballet parking ordinance, which will try to bring some rationality to the

3012
03:36:56,400 --> 03:36:58,680
whole ballet parking situation downtown.

3013
03:36:59,340 --> 03:37:00,500
There was a draft pending.

3014
03:37:00,880 --> 03:37:03,520
The draft is worth soliciting comments on that draft.

3015
03:37:03,800 --> 03:37:06,520
There's of course the whole issue of reforming.

3016
03:37:06,740 --> 03:37:12,480
The taxi cab regime in Milwaukee, whether that's to increase the number of licensees or whether to go to

3017
03:37:12,480 --> 03:37:17,100
the Italian system, whether to specify certain forms of certain types of cab.

3018
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:19,420
as the kind of public New York City right now.

3019
03:37:19,520 --> 03:37:28,280
We had a presentation on the new cab design that New York City has initiated and some

3020
03:37:28,280 --> 03:37:30,500
of the manufacturers of Respondent II.

3021
03:37:31,020 --> 03:37:38,220
We've talked about the period transit field that challenges which they're facing and I think

3022
03:37:38,220 --> 03:37:39,400
that pretty much sums up.

3023
03:37:39,600 --> 03:37:44,020
I think there was one thing that came out of this for the standpoint of the hospitality

3024
03:37:44,020 --> 03:37:52,460
in the street, hotels, the tourist, the partner in the, the, the nookiness of the

3025
03:37:52,460 --> 03:37:58,400
tourist bureau and others, there definitely need for improved transportation infrastructure

3026
03:37:58,400 --> 03:38:04,220
downtown in particular bus shelters, maps, information that allows people to actually

3027
03:38:04,220 --> 03:38:08,840
use the system without their granted system has contracted and shrunk significantly over

3028
03:38:08,840 --> 03:38:09,700
the last 10 years.

3029
03:38:09,700 --> 03:38:14,160
But what's left is still fairly functional, especially in the central business district.

3030
03:38:14,720 --> 03:38:18,800
But if you're a visitor coming in Milwaukee, you will absolutely no ability to use them while you can

3031
03:38:18,800 --> 03:38:24,720
return to the system unless you go out of your way to obtain information about routes, maps,

3032
03:38:24,940 --> 03:38:28,300
times of operations, frequency of operations, and the like.

3033
03:38:28,960 --> 03:38:33,240
So we've had this discussion follows a new so-called expressed trust to the airport.

3034
03:38:33,240 --> 03:38:39,940
Your whole idea of trying to actually promote that as a transportation option for people

3035
03:38:39,940 --> 03:38:43,240
traveling to the airport and the central business district or the North Shore.

3036
03:38:44,580 --> 03:38:48,840
We've had these discussions, the issue we're putting luggage rocks on the bat on a certain

3037
03:38:48,840 --> 03:38:53,260
sort of buses that will be used on this route, so we're going to need to provide greater

3038
03:38:53,260 --> 03:38:59,280
convenience for barring passengers to provide router information that actually lets people know

3039
03:38:59,280 --> 03:39:04,840
Usually, when the buses run and how frequently they run, and it's still a struggle, and

3040
03:39:04,840 --> 03:39:09,100
the one thought that's occurred to me in the cameon, where there's perhaps the city should

3041
03:39:09,100 --> 03:39:16,880
get involved, at least, making sure that the maps and scheduling and bus stop infrastructure

3042
03:39:16,880 --> 03:39:21,860
are supports transit within the city is at a level which actually makes marijuana County

3043
03:39:21,860 --> 03:39:23,740
transit usable by our citizens.

3044
03:39:24,260 --> 03:39:29,200
So there's something that's going to be coming forward about setting up a public

3045
03:39:29,200 --> 03:39:35,280
transit infrastructure and preservation fund, which has the goal of providing a well-resourced

3046
03:39:35,280 --> 03:39:41,840
to deal with some of these issues of signage and bus stops in basic transit infrastructure.

3047
03:39:42,300 --> 03:39:48,980
I'm really down town, but that's exclusively, and to see if we can improve the product with

3048
03:39:48,980 --> 03:39:54,300
some marginal, which is spending in the margins, we are at least an impact to city positively.

3049
03:39:54,300 --> 03:39:59,960
So I guess that's where I'll sum up with and I will be more to be more to discuss in the next one

3050
03:40:01,040 --> 03:40:13,560
Thank you. I noticed a part of the discussion was around taxi stands, or places where people would be able to get to talk to the other in the hotel, including some remove the parking.

3051
03:40:14,020 --> 03:40:17,140
That's right, at certain times. Could you use the info?

3052
03:40:17,160 --> 03:40:24,340
Well, that's been, you know, a constant tug of law. I mean, every time you create a loading zone, you take away street parking, and somebody can play the button. There's no street parking.

3053
03:40:24,340 --> 03:40:29,840
I mean, it's constant balancing of a finite amount of street parking space and what do you use it for?

3054
03:40:30,420 --> 03:40:32,520
Do you clear out for ballet parking at night?

3055
03:40:32,660 --> 03:40:36,340
That's eliminating street parking spaces, which at night would be free.

3056
03:40:36,820 --> 03:40:43,780
Do you take out intersections or significant portions of traffic area under their sections to provide taxi stands?

3057
03:40:43,920 --> 03:40:47,700
Like on a water stream, if you go to example, a little world clerk's cave would be good examples.

3058
03:40:48,560 --> 03:40:52,880
To make sure that taxi's are, or to reduce the amount of bell parking that goes on,

3059
03:40:53,800 --> 03:40:57,140
creating traffic congestion in the water street and the World World Third Street.

3060
03:40:57,500 --> 03:41:01,980
Well, you can do that, but you take out a lot of street parking and what's the trade-off

3061
03:41:01,980 --> 03:41:04,260
and how the local businesses feel about that.

3062
03:41:04,280 --> 03:41:05,660
The local residents feel about that.

3063
03:41:05,780 --> 03:41:08,880
So we're working through all those issues, and we have a diverse group.

3064
03:41:09,560 --> 03:41:12,380
We'll present those from different quarters.

3065
03:41:12,580 --> 03:41:15,580
We'll come all the way in and those are some of the issues we are in.

3066
03:41:16,720 --> 03:41:24,620
So issues for this is said, lambers must walk to me about the hospitality or

3067
03:41:24,620 --> 03:41:28,420
right there, but two buses dropping off and poking down Tom.

3068
03:41:28,720 --> 03:41:31,400
Well, well, the bill buses were not going to probably not accommodate.

3069
03:41:31,700 --> 03:41:36,980
I mean, they would go and go and get a lot of soccer or streeters, I think, for over

3070
03:41:36,980 --> 03:41:37,160
or over.

3071
03:41:37,300 --> 03:41:40,900
I know because we're not going to allow 64 buses to sit on the public road of

3072
03:41:40,900 --> 03:41:42,020
way and just take off space.

3073
03:41:42,920 --> 03:41:49,080
But they have been talking about tourism and I'd probably talk with you on a side on this.

3074
03:41:50,080 --> 03:41:53,980
But if they drop people off for ten minutes at one place, they can't stand.

3075
03:41:54,060 --> 03:41:58,320
Stinger, whereas we will have this block off lanes of traffic.

3076
03:41:58,320 --> 03:41:59,000
Well, they can't.

3077
03:41:59,080 --> 03:41:59,400
They can't.

3078
03:41:59,400 --> 03:41:59,880
They can't.

3079
03:42:00,420 --> 03:42:00,460
They can't.

3080
03:42:00,460 --> 03:42:00,520
They can't.

3081
03:42:00,520 --> 03:42:00,600
They can't.

3082
03:42:00,600 --> 03:42:00,760
They can't.

3083
03:42:00,760 --> 03:42:00,800
They can't.

3084
03:42:01,340 --> 03:42:01,580
They can't.

3085
03:42:02,160 --> 03:42:05,600
They can't.

3086
03:42:05,600 --> 03:42:12,520
They want to see the subsidized their operation by providing free parking, and in their

3087
03:42:12,520 --> 03:42:18,040
cases the equivalent of 304 automobile parking spaces to make it simpler for nothing.

3088
03:42:18,600 --> 03:42:24,860
Like all the tour bus operators that come early, the music tours that come for the Riverside

3089
03:42:24,860 --> 03:42:29,420
or the past, they park their buses on the street, they pay for that.

3090
03:42:29,820 --> 03:42:31,620
And then they can stay there long or they want it.

3091
03:42:31,700 --> 03:42:34,860
We have a pass for that, they pay, they get the opportunity.

3092
03:42:34,860 --> 03:42:39,160
with the labor of the world one is they're going to free, and they're not going to get a free.

3093
03:42:39,360 --> 03:42:42,660
In fact, they didn't ever come to our committee, so this is first I heard of this.

3094
03:42:42,680 --> 03:42:49,620
They've not come to this body, their transportation, to discuss this issue, but if they did, they'd be told,

3095
03:42:49,720 --> 03:42:52,800
is the same issue we had at the end of the year of Motor Station, where you have certain

3096
03:42:52,800 --> 03:42:58,460
you see bus operators, they want to be freewriters, they don't want the way to use your

3097
03:42:58,460 --> 03:43:04,840
motor facility, so they park outside the end of motor facility on the street, and then their

3098
03:43:04,840 --> 03:43:11,940
But we're just not going to tolerate that, because there are no free lunch in the transportation world, even though bus companies,

3099
03:43:12,500 --> 03:43:16,680
private bus company, one is much of a free lunch as they can get their hands on.

3100
03:43:17,140 --> 03:43:20,740
There are issues like this that come to you, committee, or people would be able to contact you,

3101
03:43:21,340 --> 03:43:24,600
but you need to be able to appear before this board, absolutely.

3102
03:43:25,880 --> 03:43:28,900
Very good. I agree with you that it's very tough to use.

3103
03:43:28,900 --> 03:43:33,420
But I'm working on a transit, unless, you know, you do where you're going to find a

3104
03:43:33,420 --> 03:43:36,600
skill to rob, so it's difficult to find that information.

3105
03:43:37,260 --> 03:43:39,640
You've got to swim a little brief for me.

3106
03:43:40,160 --> 03:43:46,960
I just want to commend all of them and all of them to go over the home of this particular

3107
03:43:46,960 --> 03:43:47,340
board.

3108
03:43:48,260 --> 03:43:55,680
That was a successor to the much more narrowly-scoped taxi cab review board.

3109
03:43:55,680 --> 03:44:02,000
Clearly, there are a much greater interest to the community when we talk about various forms

3110
03:44:02,000 --> 03:44:07,580
of transportation, whether it be through mass transit, through walking through bicycle, pedestrian,

3111
03:44:07,940 --> 03:44:08,660
and the like.

3112
03:44:09,360 --> 03:44:14,080
And there is no doubt in my mind, while I know that there are many people here who certainly

3113
03:44:14,080 --> 03:44:23,380
support and love, various forms of mass transportation, the passion and the breadth and depth

3114
03:44:23,380 --> 03:44:29,500
of knowledge that Oben Balman has and when he brings that to this particular body, is it a good

3115
03:44:29,500 --> 03:44:34,660
form and hopefully allows us to make improvements to their forms of transportation and affect

3116
03:44:34,660 --> 03:44:35,200
this community.

3117
03:44:35,480 --> 03:44:36,300
Thank you very much.

3118
03:44:36,420 --> 03:44:40,820
By the time I'm moving to my notes and one other thing did come up which I was very interesting

3119
03:44:40,820 --> 03:44:45,720
a couple of years ago, this council, I don't think anybody here was under council at the time.

3120
03:44:45,900 --> 03:44:49,820
People in the blue was, but any event there was a big argument about whether we should

3121
03:44:49,820 --> 03:44:54,980
private high bus stops by allowing a coach and our communications to come in.

3122
03:44:55,080 --> 03:44:59,740
Spend money up front to the bus stops, provide lighting, provide additional lighting.

3123
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:05,260
Please provide public service announcements. The exchange for which they get to provide advertising.

3124
03:45:06,020 --> 03:45:08,960
Now, this was a big step that was argument's problem, of course.

3125
03:45:09,560 --> 03:45:14,640
As a classic pattern that we've seen the CLI around here, all kinds of promises are made up front

3126
03:45:14,640 --> 03:45:19,280
to induce this council to provide some accommodation to the private sector.

3127
03:45:19,900 --> 03:45:24,640
And then, as time goes on, all we benefit is they were supposed to provide, suddenly disappear,

3128
03:45:24,940 --> 03:45:29,980
and go by the race side, and only the revenue collecting continues, which they exclusively benefit from.

3129
03:45:29,980 --> 03:45:35,200
And I specifically refer to the fact that none of their bus stops are lighted anymore.

3130
03:45:35,840 --> 03:45:37,580
They've just stopped illuminating them.

3131
03:45:38,060 --> 03:45:42,180
Now, the semi-stent they could be blamed the city, the electrical system for that, to some degree.

3132
03:45:42,720 --> 03:45:44,540
But that should have been dealt with at the time.

3133
03:45:45,140 --> 03:45:47,620
And again, we sort of got baited and switched.

3134
03:45:48,280 --> 03:45:49,720
We were induced to enter in an arrangement.

3135
03:45:49,800 --> 03:45:55,140
Now, we just have the same slightly nicer bus stop that's maintained in no higher level.

3136
03:45:55,140 --> 03:46:01,800
So, neurolumination of the biargumins in their phasor, and plus out of the paced.

3137
03:46:02,520 --> 03:46:07,060
And so, in the advertising, very sketchy, because it turned out very trouble doing advertising.

3138
03:46:07,380 --> 03:46:12,040
And no public service announcements and no math are of which was supposed to have been part of the original arrangement.

3139
03:46:12,540 --> 03:46:18,620
So, once again, when we do a clear channel, you know, promises are made up thought, but don't always seem to get delivered.

3140
03:46:19,640 --> 03:46:21,420
That won't seem to be delivered down the road.

3141
03:46:24,300 --> 03:46:28,320
Thank you, amendment died. Any other comments with questions on the sign up?

3142
03:46:30,600 --> 03:46:35,460
If not, I'll then, Bellman moves to receive and place on file.

3143
03:46:36,240 --> 03:46:41,980
Now, the last item item, I'll then, if I'll number one, two, zero, zero, zero, zero,

3144
03:46:42,100 --> 03:46:47,240
and ordinance will be into charges for patient services provided by the Moirkey Fire Department.

3145
03:46:48,620 --> 03:46:50,240
Sure, thank you for already.

3146
03:46:54,160 --> 03:46:55,840
You just need to stay at home again.

3147
03:46:58,560 --> 03:47:01,480
And if you identify yourself for the record,

3148
03:47:04,370 --> 03:47:06,350
you tell each of you for emergency medical services

3149
03:47:06,350 --> 03:47:08,690
for the city market federal government.

3150
03:47:09,210 --> 03:47:10,450
Maybe Sean Sully.

3151
03:47:13,480 --> 03:47:16,100
Can you give us the essence of what this file is?

3152
03:47:16,100 --> 03:47:31,400
This is an annual rate increase for ALS transportation services by the Marquis Fire Department of Cermetics.

3153
03:47:32,420 --> 03:47:42,960
Well, these radiant creases are developed by the purchase of Rocky County, the review

3154
03:47:44,800 --> 03:47:50,420
similar rates, all over the country, as you and I spoke on the familiar day we talked

3155
03:47:50,420 --> 03:47:56,160
about the mileage rate and why that wasn't addressed and it's because they do comparables

3156
03:47:56,160 --> 03:48:04,060
with other cities, fire permits, of our size, in the Midwest, such as Minneapolis, that

3157
03:48:04,060 --> 03:48:11,420
do permanent transport, and we try to maintain that compatibility.

3158
03:48:13,600 --> 03:48:23,600
So the chief's value value rate, the current rates, do the comparables, and vote on it,

3159
03:48:23,600 --> 03:48:33,520
And then it is quoted to, in a governmental cooperation and a review of it, and give

3160
03:48:33,520 --> 03:48:41,060
it a cool one, and then each department brings it in front of their,

3161
03:48:43,350 --> 03:48:44,730
is this a rate based

3162
03:48:44,730 --> 03:48:45,430
on cost?

3163
03:48:46,170 --> 03:48:46,490
Yes.

3164
03:48:46,850 --> 03:48:47,570
Move approval.

3165
03:48:47,570 --> 03:48:50,070
or before that Mr. Schroeder.

3166
03:48:51,370 --> 03:48:55,030
I don't know if I talk to what impact does this have

3167
03:48:55,030 --> 03:48:57,510
any on the private ambulance services?

3168
03:48:58,110 --> 03:49:01,310
As I see, we have non-evases service with our convenience.

3169
03:49:01,650 --> 03:49:03,730
I know they don't do ALS, correct?

3170
03:49:04,050 --> 03:49:04,630
You guys agree?

3171
03:49:04,630 --> 03:49:08,510
All the ALS that comes through 911

3172
03:49:09,990 --> 03:49:13,570
is supposed to be done or handled by

3173
03:49:13,570 --> 03:49:19,250
Rocky, county, hydrocomment, ALS units.

3174
03:49:20,030 --> 03:49:29,430
So the pilots to BLS and they have a pilot contracts with other providers such as nursing homes.

3175
03:49:30,110 --> 03:49:33,330
Or they do direct and facility transport between a nursing home and a hospital.

3176
03:49:33,890 --> 03:49:35,650
That is separate, they are ready to separate.

3177
03:49:36,310 --> 03:49:39,110
I understand that, but they do transport for the city of Milwaukee.

3178
03:49:39,110 --> 03:49:39,370
Yes.

3179
03:49:43,370 --> 03:49:45,670
There's this impact in middle.

3180
03:49:45,990 --> 03:49:46,750
That's why I want to know.

3181
03:49:46,990 --> 03:49:47,810
It should not.

3182
03:49:48,070 --> 03:49:48,790
It should not.

3183
03:49:49,170 --> 03:49:50,910
But let me know if it does or doesn't.

3184
03:49:51,050 --> 03:49:52,770
I need a definitive answer.

3185
03:49:55,070 --> 03:49:59,990
The best answer I can give you all the means is that if you reach out.

3186
03:50:00,460 --> 03:50:03,180
And everybody does what they're supposed to, it will not.

3187
03:50:04,280 --> 03:50:07,280
You've got a piece of a non-transportation.

3188
03:50:07,640 --> 03:50:07,900
Correct.

3189
03:50:08,020 --> 03:50:11,920
It's not a ELS versus a BLS.

3190
03:50:12,080 --> 03:50:14,300
Me or Richard, you can clarify it for me.

3191
03:50:14,300 --> 03:50:17,120
If I may, Richard Rivers, legislative reference bureau,

3192
03:50:17,560 --> 03:50:25,940
at the last cycle of the council over yet, BLS rates and charges were approved

3193
03:50:25,940 --> 03:50:30,440
to those are in and separate sections of the code.

3194
03:50:31,240 --> 03:50:35,320
The charges for non-transport that are, however,

3195
03:50:36,100 --> 03:50:41,100
for whether it's subsection 16, for basic transport,

3196
03:50:41,680 --> 03:50:45,240
or this section section, the subsection 17,

3197
03:50:46,360 --> 03:50:49,620
are charges that are incurred as a result

3198
03:50:49,620 --> 03:50:54,360
of the treatment during or at the time of transport.

3199
03:50:54,900 --> 03:51:03,260
So, and that's why I asked a question, because I remember we just went through this with the private ambulance, and is this going to impact what we already, okay?

3200
03:51:04,120 --> 03:51:10,020
Are these, are these, because I don't remember, are these fees already encompassed in the fire?

3201
03:51:10,420 --> 03:51:14,000
No, they're entirely separate, okay, and it's why I want to make sure.

3202
03:51:14,300 --> 03:51:14,800
Thank you.

3203
03:51:14,800 --> 03:51:20,800
And these are fees that you'd ask who wind up or two for which they're coming wide.

3204
03:51:21,960 --> 03:51:25,800
As the early municipality is judging the same same thing for the same service.

3205
03:51:26,240 --> 03:51:36,160
Please based on based on cost and review the mileage indicated that there was no need or two resets at this point in time.

3206
03:51:36,180 --> 03:51:37,080
That's correct.

3207
03:51:37,700 --> 03:51:38,840
Thank you. All of the Davis moved.

3208
03:51:39,960 --> 03:51:40,280
The crew.

3209
03:51:40,280 --> 03:51:52,620
I was doing a lot of work, and that was a proof of inefficiency and non-souric spending

3210
03:51:52,620 --> 03:51:53,400
as a joint.

3211
03:51:53,900 --> 03:51:58,300
You know, for the business to come before this meeting, this meeting was a just character

3212
03:51:58,300 --> 03:51:59,100
and power, right?